=== mpt_ [n=mpt@121-72-131-199.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [01:01] mpt_: seems one can approve these things oneself [01:02] mdke, I couldn't because as far as Launchpad knows I'm not involved :-) [01:02] hmm [01:02] silly launchpad! [01:02] mpt: so what do you have in mind in terms of presentation? [01:06] hmmmmm [01:06] two narrow columns [01:07] I have no basis at all for saying this, but I feel that topics would be clicked more often if on the right [01:08] and that would also be better flow for a sentence of instructions at the top left [01:08] you might be right. I noticed the other day that our mockup is staggeringly similar to the Windows XP help center [01:08] it is? [01:08] I thought theirs was horridly large and crowded [01:08] well, the layout is basically the same [01:08] topics down the left, frequently asked questions and other resources in the body [01:09] huh, so it is [01:09] anyway, I really hope Don will helpout with this patch and we can at least have something that works to build from [01:09] http://www.wellesley.edu/Computing/WinXP/images/help.jpg [01:10] I was just looking at http://www.beansoftware.com/ASP.NET-Tutorials/images/Windows-XP-Help.jpg [01:10] I wonder what determines the color scheme [01:10] that's with themes turned off [01:10] oh, probably Luna vs. Classic [01:13] we also need to get people contributing a bit more. Right now the only people spamming the commit list are me and nixternal [01:14] Is there now any legal problem with copying stuff from the wiki into the help? [01:15] mpt: well, we haven't actually implemented the license change on the wiki yet. But really, it's never stopped us before [01:18] :-] [01:24] howdy [01:24] hiya bdmurray [01:26] I was thinking about maybe having some documentation about filing bugs for Feisty or using apport. [01:26] bdmurray: did you see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs already? [01:27] you might be able to build on that [01:28] okay, cool. I think some documentation about apport would help too. [01:28] yeah [01:28] is there not some on the main wiki that can be pillaged? [01:28] I wonder how many people actually view the chiark url about filing good bugs [01:29] very few, probably. Better to have a few basic points in the text of the wiki page [01:29] bdmurray: you seem like an ideal person to have a look at bug 74555, by the way :) Are you able to help chase that up? [01:29] Malone bug 74555 in ubuntu-docs "SRU: [Edgy] Upgraded documentation" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74555 [01:29] mdke: heh, good one [01:29] I can look at it [01:30] thanks, it shouldn't be controversial [01:30] I have another sru I want to do, so getting that out the way would be helpful [01:32] bdmurray: how many QA people does Ubuntu have now? [01:32] 2? we've doubled in size! [01:33] I'm not clear on the quantity exactly though. [01:33] Is there any talk of an update to the Ubuntu book? [01:34] yes, there will be an update [01:34] I (and others) are working on it right now [01:35] what about all your shiny interns? [01:36] those are sfllaw's [01:36] ah [01:36] you don't get any? [01:36] nah, I might put my kids to work though [01:36] I am in Ubuntu-QA, and I know Simon is and Daniel, so there are more than 2 :) [01:36] nixternal: you ain't paid [01:37] talking Canonical QA people [01:37] so I think there are 2 people whose primary duty is bug work / QA [01:37] Whereas Daniel is mostly dev [01:38] daniel's job is to look pretty and give hugs [01:38] and smile [01:38] I don't know that I've seen such a smiley guy in my life [01:39] nor I [01:40] ahh [01:45] Joker? 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=== quazar [n=jnelson@208.50.96.2] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === rob [i=rob@freenode/staff/rob] has joined #ubuntu-doc === joachim-n [n=joachim@ACD47342.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === philbull [n=phil@oak029b.halls.manchester.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Kamping_Kaiser [n=kgoetz@unafilliated/kgoetz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bronson [n=bronson@adsl-75-36-145-166.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-133-215.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === froud [n=sean@dsl-242-133-48.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-doc === linuxphotogeek [n=will@fw-dcise.ascensionhealth.org] has joined #ubuntu-doc === david_corrales [n=david@ip247-10.ct.co.cr] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Kamping_Kaiser [n=kgoetz@unafilliated/kgoetz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === dsas [n=dean@cpc3-stok6-0-0-cust253.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === joachim-n [n=joachim@AC8E72E0.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mdke [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-133-215.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@ppp-142-102.25-151.libero.it] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:21] linuxphotogeek: can you revert that last commit with the links? As per mailing list, we still need to discuss how to do the links, and I think we'll probably use another method; it will be easier to use sed to change them if they are all as they were === ryanakca [n=ryan@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-doc === david_corrales [n=david@ip247-10.ct.co.cr] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Ex-Chat"] === willvdl [n=will@196.207.41.253] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jenda [n=jenda@ubuntu/member/jenda] has joined #ubuntu-doc === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@242-230.dial.nortenet.pt] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:40] Ubuntu Documentation: mdke * r3741 ubuntu/musicvideophotos/C/musicvideophotos.xml: reverting Will's last commit [10:41] linuxphotogeek: I've reverted it myself ^^ === linuxphotogeek returns to desk [11:37] mdke: my misunderstanding [11:37] linuxphotogeek: cool. If no one else replies to the relevant thread, we'll sort the links out soon [11:41] I was wondering if there was some sort of docbook equivalent to DocumentRoot [11:42] It would eliminate all the ../../../../ === willvdl [n=will@196.207.41.253] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Leaving"] [11:43] linuxphotogeek: no, I don't think so. Docbook isn't really made for linking between files. But the type="help" url="ghelp" stuff should be a bit easier