[12:28] 'night [12:28] does anyone fully understand the ubuntu kernel version numbering system? [12:30] grazie: not since edgy ... dapper made sense to me, but ever since upstart and -generic kernels, its just kinda a blurr [12:31] k [12:31] Hrm. It still mounts to usbdisk === SAXD9 [n=user@cpe-24-160-84-138.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === eugman [n=eugene@c-71-195-88-202.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:40] Oh well, I'll try again in the morning. [12:40] What are the ram requirements for xubuntu? [12:41] eugman: http://www.xubuntu.org/get [12:42] thanks === sc0tt_ [n=sc0tt@cpc1-stok5-0-0-cust513.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #xubuntu === priit_ [n=Priit@58.246.240.57] has joined #xubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #xubuntu === b_52GM [n=skimo@adsl196-8-33-217-196.adsl196-10.iam.net.ma] has joined #xubuntu [01:00] how can I tell if my system is frozen or just buy? [01:01] busy? [01:01] ctrl+alt+f1 ... if it brings you to a command line login, its just busy (or possibly X just froze) [01:01] ctrl+alt+f7 will get you back to a gui desktop [01:03] nothing [01:04] DrX0: yeah ... probably X completely fragged the system, it sadly happens on rare occasions because some application will lock up, then it will cause some memory hemmorage in X, and then the system doesn't have enough memory to operate and BAM ... froze system [01:04] should I be using Solaris? [01:04] Solaris would be subject to the same issue === priidu [n=Priit@58.246.240.57] has joined #xubuntu === kalikiana [n=kalikian@xdsl-84-44-155-61.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu === Jester45 [n=Jester45@d44-44.rt-bras.wnvl.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:16] hello [01:16] maxamillion CS2 wirks and so does Dreamweaver [01:18] cool [01:23] is there a ctrl-alt-del option? [01:23] DrX0: no, this isn't windows (or gnome :P) ... you can do ctrl+alt+backspace to kill and restart X [01:23] are there configurable parameters I can use to mitigate this Xwindows crashing problem? [01:23] LordGamer: awsome! [01:23] awesome* [01:23] nothing [01:24] power switch? [01:30] sadly, probably going to be the only thing you can do [01:31] well, at least my OS is still here *THIS* time. [01:32] I was wondering, I understand that if you get too many IO requests that the system will eventually hose and actually reboot (Solaris, at least), and that you can configure the thresholds for that, but can why can't you just tell the OS not to accept any more IO requests until the queue has been depleted? [01:37] DrX0: IO requests? ... from a user or from the net? ... i'm sure there is a way to configure it to just ignore requests until its capable of handling more again ... just never needed to so i never looked into it === T` [i=total@pdpc/supporter/student/T] has joined #xubuntu === mark487 [n=ms@h-66-167-202-191.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:57] get faster drive? slower cpu? [02:01] gotta run, i'm off work [02:02] newbie Q: does xubuntu have a tool to mount & view-contents of an extra hd? [02:07] anyone know how to view an SDL console without RDP? === b_52GM [n=skimo@adsl196-184-37-217-196.adsl196-10.iam.net.ma] has joined #xubuntu === keb [n=keb@pdpc/supporter/active/keb] has joined #xubuntu [02:14] how do i find out what package a file came from? [02:15] i'm getting tons of scrollkeeper errors in my logs for documents i dont even want on my system [02:26] ok looks like removing ubuntu-docs will deal work around the problem for now [02:26] -deal === b_52Free [n=skimo@adsl196-167-43-217-196.adsl196-10.iam.net.ma] has joined #xubuntu === maverick`- [n=mave_fne@HSI-KBW-082-212-056-251.hsi.kabelbw.de] has left #xubuntu [] === bigfuzzyjesus [n=paul@12.206.21.84] has joined #xubuntu === Majic [n=cookie@adsl-69-226-109-55.dsl.skt2ca.pacbell.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:47] Hi yall. :) [02:48] I was wondering, is there a way to export all the packages you have installed? Like, all the Debians? [02:48] *to a certain location* [02:51] you meean make a list of them? === T` [i=total@pdpc/supporter/student/T] has joined #xubuntu === beowuff [n=beowuff@207-114-233-3.static.twtelecom.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:54] No, like export the debian packages that were downloaded... [02:58] export = convert into a different package format? or save downloaded .debs onto a cd? [02:59] This has me excited and i would like to save all my package downloads onto a disk if I have to clean install this: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/herd2 [02:59] Since I don't know much about how the packages are saved, I came here to find out... :) [03:00] By default, the packages you've downloaded are cached in /var/cache/apt/archives. [03:00] Don't count on Edgy versions always working in Feisty, though. [03:00] I know. [03:01] I can still hope for the best though. And besides, if I have to reinstall 6.10, I'll still have the packages on the CD. [03:01] I've re-downloaded GNOME, OpenOffice, and all the other apt-get upgrade's almost 7 times now... [03:01] *was getting Vista and Ubuntu to dual-boot correctly* [03:02] I only had the Xubuntu Edgy install disk. :) [03:02] can Vista run in vmware [03:02] Thanks for your help, PuMpErNiCkLe. <3 [03:02] np [03:02] keb: Yes. [03:03] I have never heard of vmware... [03:03] I'm just the nub that signed up for the Microsoft Beta testing and got their lame install disk for free. :) [03:03] All they wanted was log files at the Vista Install Fair. [03:03] hehehe, I saw some guy installing Vista on a Power Mac. [03:04] Anyways, I got Vista and Xubuntu to dual-boot correctly. Got NTFS write capabilies with ntfs-3g. And it all works great... [03:04] Even got Beryl to run correctly. ;) [03:05] Q: how do I mount & view the contents of an extra hd? [03:05] I use a Powerbook G4 primarily, but I"m trying to get myself comfortable with Linux. [03:05] !fstab [03:05] The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions [03:06] *it's how I got other partitions to mount...* === beowuff [n=beowuff@207-114-233-3.static.twtelecom.net] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:09] thanks much! interesting... very helpful [03:09] Good luck... I hope it helps. :) [03:10] In the older days, people would edit fstab over and over to get a drive to mount. Now we have programs that do all that editing for us... But once in a while, you still have to go back to fstab. === Majic runs off to somewhere hidden === squirrelpimp [n=squirrel@2001:6f8:915:0:230:1bff:feb9:742b] has joined #xubuntu [03:11] hmm what programs edit fstab [03:11] No idea, but I heard they exist. :D [03:11] hehehe [03:11] all that automounting can get annoying, especially ivman [03:11] i havent figured out how to control it [03:12] I deleted my entire partition map indefinitely because I didn't know of the blkid command. :D [03:12] *a few days ago* [03:12] It took the next few days to figure out which way I wanted to re-partition my drives. [03:12] Finally got it right... [03:12] I hate partitioning... [03:13] Also: I highly recommend the Amarok music player over Rhythmbox. [03:14] hmm i had that for a while and it was a pig [03:14] Rhythmbox is nice, but Amarok can make a MySQL database for faster load times. :) I'm not sure what Rhythmbox uses... [03:14] i think i have removed all traces of kde now [03:14] Why don't you like KDE? [03:14] well i don't want pieces of two independent desktops running when i'm short of RAM [03:15] amarok doesnt make a mysql it makes a SQLlite but it can use a mySQL becuase its faster [03:15] one of the advantages of xubuntu is how lean it is [03:15] Okay, wasn't sure. :) I thought it made a MySQL database... === Majic sucks. :D [03:15] keb: it only use more when they are running [03:16] yes, but amarok is usually running alongside other stuff due to it being music ;) [03:16] How much RAM do you have, keb? [03:16] Majic: its a DQL db still but its not as faST AS MYSQL BUT with the lite you dont have ot run a deamon so its more standlone [03:16] i have 512MB but somehow firefox chews up half [03:17] you should fix that [03:17] Didn't know that...Thanks Jester. :) [03:20] np :) thats why they give you the option of useing 3 diffrent sql DB [03:20] Hmm, I should make one. :D [03:20] simple and slow or.... complex and fast [03:21] I like fast. *crashes and burns* :D [03:23] yes but you have to run a mySQL db === beowuff [n=beowuff@207-114-233-3.static.twtelecom.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:23] but for people that are running one its just a few clicks and tpying and bam [03:24] Majic: how much ram do you got? [03:24] Same as keb. :) 512 Mb. [03:24] I have a Pentium 4 Celeron processor. 2.4 Ghz. [03:24] 1.7GHz here [03:25] What processor? [03:25] celeron [03:25] Okay, me too...I meant like, which Pentium? 2,3,4? [03:25] stepping 03 [03:26] dmesg doesnt say === ChickenGirl [n=cassie@d47-69-96-223.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:26] 3 or 4 [03:26] im thinking 3 [03:26] p2 maxes at 1.0 i think [03:27] unless u OCed [03:27] nope [03:27] and p4 i think are more of the 2.0 or more range [03:28] brb got to do the dishes === ChickenGirl [n=cassie@d47-69-96-223.try.wideopenwest.com] has left #xubuntu [] [03:36] so my other hd is at hdb1. Dumb Q: how do I view its contents? [03:37] mark487: man mount :P [03:37] double clicking on it just results in my cpu red-line-ing [03:38] yup, i figured i could mount it command-line, but was wondering if it could be mounted and viewed in thunar or some other convenient util. [03:40] um [03:40] mark487: using the mount command is the most convenient [03:40] ' [03:41] its very simple [03:41] (I know my questions must seem stupid) [03:41] you could use the vi command to permanently add the partition to /etc/fstab [03:41] then it will automount [03:41] and you can use thunar on it [03:42] or another editor if you dont like vi [03:42] so if i mount the partition, then thunar will be able to browse it? [03:42] thanks === terracon [n=tc@CPE0050da822b70-CM0012254076d6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:44] yes [03:44] you give it a mount point or empty folder and in the folder will be all the drives stuff [03:46] thanks all === darrend [n=darren@43-015.adsl.zetnet.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu [03:48] I'd've thought that thunar might have the option to right click to select a partition to mount. Do some utils have that, or is it specifically avoided? [03:49] thanks in advance [03:49] i think its just unsed becuase the mount command works great [03:50] hmm there used to be some sort of hardware browser in ubuntu [03:50] gparted [03:50] could look at them === Prisoner_ [n=kb5iav@ip24-254-33-54.br.br.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:04] hello [04:05] hi. did you file off your number? [04:07] keb: ?? [04:07] just kidding [04:07] I am not a number, I am a free man! [04:07] prisoners usually have numbers [04:08] o [04:08] i understand [04:08] excellent, sorry for being obtuse [04:10] lol [04:10] I'm surprised how Xubuntu runs on this old 400mhz clunker, it actually runs OK === somerville32 has a 333mhz w/ 128mb of ram. [04:11] *256mb now :) [04:12] this is a 400mhz AMDk6 with 384 mb RAM === spasticteapot [n=joe@ppp-70-226-162-184.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:13] Hello! [04:13] Anyone here? [04:13] I'm here [04:13] we are all gone [04:13] Today was supposed to be official release of Windows VIsta, the best thing to ever happen to Linux === j1mc [n=j1m@adsl-75-21-77-18.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:16] lol [04:16] Prisoner_: To be quite honest, I think I have the same things (shiny-wise) under XFCE. [04:16] I have an nVidia GeFOrce FX5500 128mb video card, will that be OK under Xubuntu? [04:16] Except it runs on a tiny fraction of the resources. [04:16] Overkill. [04:16] true [04:17] did you know that all the IO request are encrypted? and scaned for illegal downloaded things [04:17] Prisoner_ : i have a fx5200 and it works fine [04:17] Prisoner_, you've got pleeenty o'graphics juice there. [04:17] some people run xubuntu with just as much _system_ ram. [04:17] ooh did they implement the palladium architecture after all [04:17] Prisoner_: you can run the cube engine very nicly with that [04:18] I was asking because someone told me he heard Linux has trouble with nVidia, has that been corrected? [04:18] they came out with 2 verson becuase the full blowen vista needs to much power :) [04:18] Prisoner_: It's ati, not nVidia, that usually causes problems. [04:19] Linux works out PERFECTLY with Nvidia. [04:19] Prisoner_: you got it backwrds [04:19] I have craptastic Intel Integrated. Works poifect. [04:19] funny thing, this box has an ATI video card in it and it seems to work OK [04:19] ATI Radeo VE [04:19] Anyone know how much Murrine will slow down my machine? [04:19] i think if you insist on pure GPL you won't get the accelerated OpenGL [04:21] Not for awhile anyway... the nouveau project is working on an OSS 3D capable nvidia driver. [04:23] Has anyone tried Murrine? [04:23] isnt that some sort of eyewash [04:24] Nope...GUI plugin. [04:24] I'd like something a little better than Clearlooks. === pjgat09 [n=pjgat09@69-182-192-243.adsl.snet.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:31] hmmm [04:31] I really need to get Xubuntu installed on my main PC [04:31] T3h fast. [04:32] Sorry...have not had sleep. [04:32] Will not use joysticks again, === rizzo [n=rizzo@unaffiliated/rizzo] has joined #xubuntu [04:35] doing command-line system install from xubuntu 6.10 alternate CD. seems hung just after detecting hardware [04:35] I have a blank blue screen with a gray row on the bottom and a text cursor [04:36] any hard disk activity? [04:36] I have one problem with Xubuntu [04:36] when I boot down the PC doesn't shut off [04:36] keb: I don't hear any [04:37] the light is not lit, although I'm not sure if the LED is connected anyway [04:39] any suggestions, when I boot down Ubuntu or Kubuntu, the PC shuts off, but not with Xubuntu === priit_ [n=Priit@58.246.240.57] has joined #xubuntu [04:45] rizzo are there any pre-existing operating systems on the hard disk you are installing to [04:46] keb: it was gentoo, but I wiped the disk with dban first [04:46] so nothing is on there now at all [04:49] the only hints i found is: possibly corrupt cd [04:49] were you able to try some different install options such as acpi=off [04:50] or did it even get that far? [04:52] it brings up the menu, I select the command-line system install. it does the language and keyboard stuff. then it does the automatic hardware detection. that seems to complete and then immediately after I just have this empty blue screen [04:52] I'll restart and do memtest and cd media test [04:52] try cd first [04:53] memtest is long [04:53] and if gentoo was running the mem is probably ok [04:56] cd test seems to be hanging as well just like install [04:56] damn === rizzo gets out another cdr [04:57] burn at a low speed [04:58] writing at 16x this time (was 24x before) [04:58] 4x is recommended [04:58] in the forums [04:59] i think historically there was some sort of format change when burning at 8x or less [04:59] i.e. blanks that couldnt be burnt at more than 8x were a different type [05:00] dunno if burners make any such distinction when you set speed [05:01] ugh ok [05:01] we'll see how this one turns out === rizzo sighs [05:08] writing at 4x === priidu [n=Priit@58.246.240.57] has joined #xubuntu [05:11] rizzo, i usually do a md5chksum then burn at 8x and they always work for me... [05:12] bigfuzzyjesus: I've burned a working disc from this iso at work [05:12] so I know the iso is good [05:12] rizzo, working hard or hardly working ? [05:13] right now it's the latter [05:13] rizzo, where at? === priit_ [n=Priit@58.246.240.57] has joined #xubuntu [05:32] looks like same bullshit at 4x [05:33] :( [05:33] you mean the cd test fails? [05:33] or hangs [05:34] mem test next i guess === j1mc [n=j1m@adsl-75-21-77-18.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:36] cd test hangs [05:36] if memtest comes out ok, do you have another cdrom to try [05:36] drive i mean [05:38] not anymore [05:39] is the drive connected as master on the 2nd ide channel? [05:41] i guess i'm suggesting check all the hardware [05:41] yeah I'll check that out later === spasticteapot [n=joe@76.210.61.138] has joined #xubuntu [06:05] Does anyone know how to add themes to XFCE/Murrine? [06:05] Yup [06:05] :) [06:05] It says to add them to ~/.themes/ ; I presume that means /usr/share/themes? [06:05] No [06:05] Oh. [06:05] ~ means your home directory [06:05] That would explain why I need root access. [06:05] Durr.... [06:06] I dumb. [06:06] You don't need root access [06:06] yeah, i wish xfce had an easier theme manager like gnome. [06:06] To access /usr/share/themes you do. [06:06] Eh. [06:06] It's not so bad. [06:06] spasticteapot, Right... [06:06] i guess . . . [06:06] "It's not windows". [06:06] spasticteapot, You need to put them in your home directory [06:06] I know. [06:06] spasticteapot, under the .themes directory [06:06] of course making shared files needs root access, you want all your users to trust them [06:06] I needed root access to edit /usr/share/themes. Which I don't actually need to. === Majic [n=cookie@adsl-69-226-109-55.dsl.skt2ca.pacbell.net] has left #xubuntu ["*poof*"] [06:12] D'oh! [06:13] I don't think I have a .themes directory. [06:14] .list === priidu [n=Priit@58.246.240.57] has joined #xubuntu === alnokta [n=alnokta@unaffiliated/alnokta] has joined #xubuntu === spasticteapot [n=joe@76.210.61.138] has joined #xubuntu === cellofellow [n=josh@69.71.161.32] has joined #xubuntu [06:33] Hello! [06:33] hi [06:33] Anyone else here celebrating the fact that we have all the shiny factor of WinXP....with 1/4 the hardware resources used, and 0% of the pricetag? [06:33] I am! [06:34] I actually had someone impressedly ask me "Is that vista?" today. [06:34] Yay! Linux just rules! [06:34] You have any transparency stuff? [06:35] Nope. [06:35] I'm working on Murrine. [06:35] Then he wasn't a real geek. :) [06:35] Murrine is so cool. [06:36] Yah. [06:36] I wish that they could cut down on Xubuntu's ram usage a bit for laptops. [06:36] Battery management and ACPI hoover up a good bit of RAM. [06:36] Why? I dunno. [06:36] Runs blazing fast on desktops with low RAM, though, and the Thinkpad compatibility is BETTER than windows! [06:37] You've also probably got shared memory video [06:37] Yep. [06:37] IBM X40. [06:37] 1ghz Pentium-M. [06:38] Under Windoze, it's a bit slow...under Linux, it's zippy! [06:38] Intel Integrated Graphics? [06:38] The nipple-mouse support is wonky, though. [06:38] :) I like zippy [06:38] Yep. [06:38] X40 wow that is a ultra small ibm isnt it? [06:38] Teh suxxorz. [06:38] 2.7 lbs. [06:38] Best laptop EVAR. [06:38] I hate those nipple mouse things anyways. [06:39] I've owned quite a few - I'd reccomend nothing but an Asus (including MacBook) or Lenovo. [06:39] Old-school "IBMs" are often even better still. [06:39] (I heard from some that the new Lenovos are'nt quite the same - but they seem to work just fine.) [06:39] As an added bonus, they last 'till kingdom come, so used ones are always on the market. [06:40] except for the nipple mice ;) [06:40] Eh. [06:40] They're good for word processing. [06:40] Which is what I bought this for. [06:41] I'm getting a spiffy new gaming box soon - I'm waiting for a killer deal on a 7900GS or the like. [06:41] I do a lot less word processing than I ought to. [06:42] Heh. [06:42] I am a student. [06:42] A notebook that is smaller than an actual notebook is a huge asset. [06:42] me too, just not a traditional student. Homeschool. [06:42] My backpack is much, much smaller than many others'. [06:42] And I've written very little lately, 'cept the con con. [06:42] Eh...homeschool has its disadvantages. [06:43] like having to be so self-motivated. [06:43] which is an advantage too. [06:43] For example, you don't learn how to deal with people constantly trying to intimidate you, and bad food. [06:44] So? I got to deal with about 45 people last week, we were all trying to write a constitution for iraq. Who says homeschoolers have no social life. We had a Ball afterward. [06:44] It's not unlike the corporate world, except with less suits and more smootching in the halls. [06:44] Yes, but did you get staples shot at you? [06:44] Or strangled? [06:44] Really, you're missing out on a lot! [06:44] haha [06:45] someone brought about a dozen guns [06:45] Don't laugh. Both happened within 20 minutes of each other in the 8th grade. [06:45] was gonna stage a coup. [06:45] Both kids got 45 minutes detention. [06:45] The same day, a few kids started a food fight in the cafeteria. [06:45] 2 days in-school suspension for them. [06:45] Guess where the administrators' priorities lie? [06:46] As a side note, I still live up the street from an awesome mexican restuarant. [06:46] did you notice I said some people brought about a dozen GUNS to the convention? [06:46] Once, when I was getting breakfast with my folks, I walked by both the principal and my science teacher, both looking rather...dishevled... having margharitas and burritos for breakfast. [06:46] Yes, I heard you. This is par for the course in many areas. [06:47] did they fire the guns, like real iraqi celebrants [06:47] getting offtopic here btw ;) [06:47] afterwards, yes. Airsoft guns actually. [06:47] k [06:47] To finish the story...I walked up to them with my biggest sh17-eating grin, and said "hello!" in a cheery voice. [06:47] They looked like they wanted to jump through the window. [06:48] hehe [06:48] Then there's the story with the rabbi and the hovercraft...but that's unrelated. [06:48] I have a highly surreal life. [06:51] glad to hear xubuntu is contributing :D === xfceubuntu [n=pegger@82.131.217.87] has joined #xubuntu === malnilion [n=malnilio@129.244.27.40] has joined #xubuntu === FourT [n=20522084@202.115.22.146] has joined #xubuntu === FourT [n=20522084@202.115.22.146] has left #xubuntu [] === ^LoRd_NiTrO^ [n=Jeko@203.111.235.139] has joined #xubuntu === j1mc [n=j1m@adsl-75-21-77-18.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu === stork [n=sh2-136@storkey.plus.com] has joined #xubuntu === rag [n=rag@58.Red-80-24-33.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === echosystm [n=echosyst@dsl-203-113-236-97.SA.netspace.net.au] has joined #xubuntu === spasticteapot [n=joe@76.210.61.138] has joined #xubuntu [08:38] Hello again! [08:38] Can anyone reccomend some neat-0 apps to download? [08:39] Murrine seems to have actually sped up my system, which is nice. [08:39] I've got Abiword, Gspeakers, Firefox, and Amarok - what else should I try? === cidolfus [n=quad3d@12.110.209.75] has joined #xubuntu === priit_ [n=Priit@58.246.240.57] has joined #xubuntu === luckyone [n=jordan@CPE-75-87-69-197.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === morphir [n=morphir@217.168.81.4] has joined #xubuntu === zenrox [i=zenrox@pool-71-115-200-45.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === bigfuzzyjesus [n=paul@12.206.21.84] has joined #xubuntu === DarthLappy [n=Angus@pdpc/supporter/student/DarthShrine] has joined #xubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #xubuntu === keb [n=keb@pdpc/supporter/active/keb] has left #xubuntu ["hmm"] === priidu [n=Priit@58.246.240.57] has joined #xubuntu === ghostspell [n=x@60.50.160.6] has joined #xubuntu [09:27] what mailer does xubuntu use by default to transport the output from cron jobs? === priit_ [n=Priit@58.246.240.57] has joined #xubuntu [09:48] can you send a diff link? === mijndert [n=mijndert@c82014.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #xubuntu === alnokta [n=alnokta@unaffiliated/alnokta] has joined #xubuntu === baconvanhood [n=bacon@vhe-367407.sshn.net] has joined #xubuntu === moe_evil [n=patatama@eu99-71-192.clientes.euskaltel.es] has joined #xubuntu === sc0tt_ [n=sc0tt@cpc1-stok5-0-0-cust513.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #xubuntu === echosystm [n=echosyst@dsl-203-113-236-97.SA.netspace.net.au] has joined #xubuntu === moe_evil [n=patatama@eu99-71-192.clientes.euskaltel.es] has left #xubuntu ["Ex-Chat"] === Maddog [n=colin@cpc3-cowc2-0-0-cust671.renf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #xubuntu === Timerever [n=luis@80.243.92.53] has joined #xubuntu [11:06] crap! [11:06] my GTK fonts are suddenly too small [11:07] but the XFCE settings are fine [11:07] what gives? [11:07] gtk font settings? [11:07] try that gtk2 theme switcher or somethin [11:07] where? [11:07] dunno [11:07] :D [11:07] I think it might be in the wiki or ubuntuforums [11:09] Timerever: add 'Xft.dpi:96' to your ~/.config/xfce4/Xft.xrdb [11:09] :'( I didn't needed that yesterday [11:09] it worked just fine [11:10] and the worthless startup splash scren is still out of frequency dispite being at 1024x768 [11:11] >_> have I downloaded an alpha test version by mistake or what? [11:12] I've also changed the resolution order in xorg.conf so that GDM works at 1024x768 [11:12] and it does [11:12] but the internal resolution is highger so the screen scrolls whenever I put the mouse cursor near the edge of the screen [11:12] >_< [11:13] oh yeah and it's GTK only the font problems [11:13] Opera and Qt fon'ts are just fine === esc___ [n=esc@p54BED545.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [11:21] isn't there supposed to be a .gtkrc somewhere around here? [11:21] ls -a shows nothing [11:23] brb === Timerever [n=luis@80.243.92.53] has left #xubuntu [] === grazie [n=grazie@host86-139-197-114.range86-139.btcentralplus.com] has joined #xubuntu === pillo_0 [n=pillo@86.111.64.62] has joined #xubuntu === Timerever [n=luis@80.243.92.53] has joined #xubuntu [11:27] no luck [11:27] gonna ask in the main ubuntu forum [11:27] channel i mean [11:31] Timerever: It should be in user interface settings, under font. [11:33] yep [11:33] but only changes the XFCE fonts [11:33] the rest is still tiny [11:33] :-S [11:33] like Gaim right now [11:34] Timerever: tiny font problem? [11:34] yep [11:34] it's tiny [11:34] and my vision ain't great :'( [11:34] nvidia card with none free driver? [11:35] er.... [11:35] using the nvidia drivers from the packages [11:35] that synaptic [11:35] thing [11:36] but this only happens when I chaged the resolution order in xorg.conf [11:36] had the problem and there is a fix... see I can find it... [11:36] I changed [11:36] Modes "1600x1200" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" [11:36] Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" "1600x1200" "1280x960" "1152x864" [11:37] to* [11:37]