=== rpereira [n=rpereira@ubuntu/member/rpereira] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === npnutn [n=justin@qwest-tck-ip212.scinternet.net] has left #edubuntu [] === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu === pitux__ [n=pitux@155-92-20-190.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === pitux__ is now known as pitux === augar [n=augar@chello080108209177.4.13.vie.surfer.at] has joined #edubuntu === cliebow [n=cliebow@cpe-76-179-82-249.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === tom47 [n=tom@unaffiliated/tom47] has joined #edubuntu === skirk [n=skirk@ip-103-163.sn2.eutelia.it] has joined #edubuntu === Dante123 [n=opera@bas4-kitchener06-1167936354.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #edubuntu [01:46] hi all.....I'm an elementary school teacher and at work we have a SmartBoard...that works fine with our windows laptops. I have ubuntu on my laptop and I have downloaded the SmartBoard software.....however....I can't seem to get it to detect the board.....hooked up via laptop USB to Serial port on Smartboard. Has anyone here had experience getting ubuntu to work with a Smartboard (interactive whiteboard)...ubuntu 6.10 installed [01:46] hmm, nope [01:47] I would check to see if the smart board is detectd [01:47] Dante123, rodarvus is supposed to know about such kernel driver stuff since very recently ... but i dont know if he had time to look into any options yet [01:48] ogra: wonder if we could (ab)use telepathy to this end [01:48] Dante123:have you tried lsusb? [01:49] Burgwork, that still needs working kernel modules in most cases [01:49] I get this error message....(will have to write down exact wording) that says something about can't detect smartboard or that port is already in use...something like that.... [01:49] yep [01:49] ogra: was thinking for the UI, assuming the kernel module exsits [01:49] right [01:49] but the kernel is the main concern atm [01:50] drivers are rare [01:50] at least working ones [01:50] heh [01:50] my problem is that the board is at school.....and I don't get much time at school to troubleshoot this.........i have 4 kids of my own to take home from school with me each day and the older ones aren't into hanging around while Dad troubleshoots smartboard and linux....can't say I blame them [01:50] thanks cliebow....I will try that...... [01:51] I also talked to tech support at smartboard and they said to call tomorrow when the "linux" expert guy is there..... [01:51] Dante123: il look into that as well.we have one here.. [01:52] Dante123, file a bug and if you attached the smartboard copy /var/log/dmesg to your desktop a minute later then attach it to the bug later [01:52] i'd love to get it working with ubuntu......the smart notebook software works well [01:52] ok...thanks. [01:52] the log output will tell our kernel devs what to do (if there is something they can do) [01:53] will try the things you have suggested.......do you think I should have the smartboard plugged in when booting up....or plug it in after initial boot up??? 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[12:44] yeah if not root [12:45] thanks [12:46] 8~) === willvdl [n=will@dumbledore.hbd.com] has joined #edubuntu [01:01] ogra: does LDM go through .dmrc and does it use Session= from it? [01:01] ogra: I just want to know to give some kind of a useful answer to doug who posted to the list [01:10] ping ogra [01:11] highvoltage, it doesnt yet [01:14] ogra: ok === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu [01:18] highvoltage, oh, that answer [01:18] heh [01:18] ogra: yes :) [01:18] highvoltage, he could just use a ~/.xsession ;) [01:18] ogra: did I mislead him, is there a way to do it currently? [01:18] per user [01:18] aaaah [01:19] especially since he needs to touch files anyway to get an icewm seassion ready [01:19] i dont think it ships one [01:20] btw, what do you think about xfce on the second CD ? === highvoltage sends back another response to doug [01:21] Xfce on the second CD sounds great [01:21] many people use tuXlab specifically because Edubuntu they prefer Xfce [01:21] so sad this is unmaintained: http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~qiq/src/shfs/ [01:21] and for some people it would be better to use Edubuntu with Xfce, currently [01:22] so I personally think Xfce on CD2 is good [01:22] you could do pam_mount with a simple sftp homedir ... [01:22] only needs an ssh server [01:22] what's the problem with using fuse again? [01:22] we use it for ltspfs... [01:22] so why would it be a problem using sshfs? [01:22] fuse sshfs ? hmmm [01:23] apt-get install sshfs :) [01:23] not sure pam likes that [01:23] but i'll check [01:23] pam_mount is supposed to work with sshfs, not that I know from first hand experience yet [01:23] not having to open nfs or samba by default for home dir mounting would be rad === highvoltage nods [01:24] and sshfs makes the authentication less troublesome too [01:24] especially since we already have ssh [01:24] hey ogra [01:24] with samba you pretty much have to use ldap [01:24] any further news on the book chapter? [01:24] otherwise the password syncing turns into too much work [01:24] which is what we'll do anyway [01:24] but i dont want additional prots open [01:24] or additional access areas ... [01:25] samba might be nice long term for Windows integration [01:25] cbx33, not yet, i'll get to it [01:25] highvoltage, indeed [01:25] and its up to you to set it up like that for now ... [01:26] i just dotn want to overcomplicate the defaults [01:26] (unless i have ten more devs heping me) [01:26] agreed [01:26] no I think samba is a long-term thing [01:27] I also think it's about time Edubuntu gets another full time developer [01:27] can't the EC vote on something like that? ;) [01:27] perhaps the EC can make a recomendation, at the very least. [01:30] thanks ogra [01:30] you are da man [01:31] highvoltage, we have a budget now ... [01:31] no room for more than two devs atm [01:32] and those places are filled [01:32] rodarvus works on lots of other stuff too though, but I suppose it will get better when the X maintainer takes more stuff over from him [01:33] humm ...it just struck me that we dont need pam_mount for ltsp ... [01:33] ldm could do that [01:33] ogra, indeed I made a research on smartboard for RichEd and willvdl recently [01:33] (but as mentioned on my email on the subject, I don't have the hardware to test) [01:33] good morning, btw :) [01:33] Dante123 has it :) [01:33] wow ogra, good point [01:34] this will actually be a circumstance where LDM can make life quite easy [01:34] so a simple sshfs call from there might work [01:34] highvoltage, I don't work on X anymore (since a few weeks ago) [01:34] anyone had any reply from hitachi yet? [01:34] i didnt write them anything ... [01:34] so i dont really expect a reply :P [01:34] i did [01:35] :p [01:35] heh [01:38] tsk, all in-kernel ssh filesystems are broken ... [01:38] :( === ogra just tried to build lufs [01:38] ogra: at least it makes a case for using sshfs eaier [01:38] *easier [01:39] hehe, me thinks it's great that a 13-14 year old at the school here compiled wine from source the other day [01:39] ogra: I use sshfs every day to play movies on my laptop from my home server, and I haven't had problems yet [01:39] well, even if we dont need pam_mount in ldm ... i'd rather have it integrated properly [01:39] cbx33: I think I can one-up you there, I've had 10 year olds who use emacs ;) [01:39] heheh cool highvoltage [01:39] sshfs needs a hook to mount ... so you can mount -t ssh [01:40] i thought you could? [01:40] ogra, we installed yesterday ubuntu and ltsp on sun sparc;) [01:40] yay === kalle_ [n=kalle@keymaster.ludvika.se] has joined #edubuntu [01:41] but i haven't tested if the clients boot from sparc, will test the sparc things after my last examen [01:41] nice juliux [01:41] oh the artwork is coming along nicely [01:41] ;) [01:48] cbx33: would you mind if I bug you over the weekend for some python / glade / pygtk advice? [01:51] sure [01:51] np highvoltage === ogra gulps [01:52] whats up ogra [01:52] # For FUSE mounts, example sshfs: [01:52] # volume * fuse - "sshfs#&@fileserver:" /home/& - - - [01:52] # Or... [01:52] # volume * fuse - "sshfs#&@fileserver:" ~ - - - [01:53] from /etc/security/pam_mount.conf :-D [01:53] ogra: :-D [01:54] ogra: sshfs ftw! [01:54] well [01:54] lets see f pitti lets it into main [01:54] oh no, I said ftw again [01:54] edubuntugirl: please shoot me [01:54] *bang* [01:56] highvoltage, doug could make .xsession redonly :) [01:56] *read [01:56] so only the admin can change it [01:56] ogra: I thought about that, but the user would be able to delete .xsession, since they own the directory? [01:57] yep [01:57] well, doug could probably chattr it [01:57] right, something like that [01:57] but I don't like recommending something like that [01:57] then just leave it ... [01:57] :) [01:59] heh === jbrefort [n=jean@mar44-2-82-227-215-241.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:10] highvoltage: what are you trying to do in python/glade? === paolob [n=donPaolo@pri-214-b7.codetel.net.do] has joined #edubuntu [02:13] Hi guys! Anyone can tell me what does the error "Mount: nfs mount failed: bad file descriptor" when the client tryes to mount the ltsp root? the docs say it's a problem with nfs server not running, but I have it running, and dhcp is configured correctly. Any hint? [02:23] ho do i bug about the normal ubuntu site now? [02:23] who [02:42] ping ogra [02:43] somethings gone wrong somewhere [02:43] I just got a mail that was addressed to you [02:43] and I can't see a CC or BCC anywhere [02:45] cbx33, spam ? [02:45] no [02:45] i get a lot of highvoltage or jsgotancgo spam ... [02:46] oh? [02:46] adressed to them, landing in my inbox [02:46] but the to field is to you [02:46] usually with an attachment [02:46] how does that happen? [02:46] adress spoofing [02:46] crikey....never seen that before [02:46] it looks genuine [02:47] I'm sending you the message source [02:47] you see what you think [02:48] i've never heard of spoofing who the mail is going to though [02:49] I didn't mean it was sent from you [02:49] It was addressed to you [02:50] i know [02:50] how can that be spoofed? [02:50] sorry ogra [02:50] hehe [02:50] I've never heard of that before === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu [02:52] hum, thats weird [02:53] yeh [02:53] i was wondering if something was wrong on the mail server [02:53] lets ping elmo and ask [02:54] (in -devel) [02:54] cbx33: don't you have admin rights on edubuntu.org too? [02:54] http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t6682.html === gnomefreak is now known as thunderstruck [02:54] ogra: I get spam addressed to you too. I think it's scraped off the wiki [02:54] yep [02:54] possibility it could have been bcc'd to me [02:54] but sent to you [02:55] but that mail is no spam [02:55] this isn't spam [02:55] or if it it's it's not accomplishing much [02:55] cbx33: you were probably bcc'd in the mail, while ogra was in the to: field [02:55] (oh you already said that :) ) [02:55] did you get the mail ogra ? [02:57] hmm i just tried on my gmail....bcc shows up [03:00] ah, got it [03:00] ogra: it must be a bcc but one of the servers strips out the bcc i suppose.....how it actually gets there I'll nenver know [03:01] hehe ok sorry bout that ogra [03:01] my spamfilter sorted it out ... so all is normal, i got the original, you got the bcc [03:01] cool ok [03:01] ogra: I'm not nagging.....hehe....just organising work load....any eta on the book chapter [03:01] ? [03:02] or tcm? === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak [03:12] hey rodarvus, sorry was tied up in meeting longer than I thought [03:24] no prob :) [03:24] will you be here later today? I'd like to leave for lunch now (half past noon here, I'm starving :) ) [03:33] yip [03:33] rodarvus, yeah, I'll be ehre for a few hours still === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #edubuntu [03:41] Howdy === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd [n=richard@dsl-241-4-218.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === SiCk [i=wakeupha@cpc2-blfs2-0-0-cust190.belf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #edubuntu [04:03] hey SiCk === ogra_ [n=ogra@p548AEA53.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [04:49] hey jsgotangco :) [04:50] RichEd: heya i heard you went to LCA? [04:50] yep ... was good [04:51] hehe i attended source camp and was away for 2 weeks [04:52] jsgotangco: we got a win of 954 desktops in philippines : unison.com.ph : Edubuntu & Open Office = Government's E-skwela project [04:52] next round of the tender is 20,000 units for 2007 [04:52] i haven't heard of it [04:53] well i guess its more of a business thing that's why i haven't heard of anything, not that I have a say on it anyways [04:53] was through the intel partner manager - Jennifer Lai - so the relationship is getting goinr [04:54] *going [04:55] ah well, i've learned to let things run through its course, so far ive enjoyed life being an independent developer and attending the asia source camp was a good experience [04:55] f.y.i. http://eskwela.wikispaces.com/Project+Description === pips1 [n=philipp@195.216.81.229] has joined #edubuntu [04:56] hi all [04:57] hi pips1 [04:57] check this out [04:57] http://picasaweb.google.com/jgotangco/AsiaSourceII [04:57] hey jsgotangco! [04:58] hey dude [04:58] nice pics [04:59] hi pips1 : bang on time [04:59] yep [04:59] will be with you in a minute [05:00] getting a coffee :) [05:00] np [05:00] 120+ people for 9 days only using ubuntu in a lab [05:00] nice one [05:00] yeah no one in the ubuntu community are even aware we do this source camps here i guess [05:01] jsgotangco: why don't you get it on the fridge? [05:01] I wasn't, but that doesn't need to mean much! :-) [05:01] im still suffering from post-camp depression [05:02] yeah, must have been nice - judging from your images [05:02] "Fouad vs. Super FOSS Tantri" :-) [05:03] yeah that's Fouad Bajwa [05:03] jeezz what a great guy [05:04] "Myra giving Muno a back massage at the bazaar" [05:04] :-) [05:04] you wouldn't even know what nationality the people in the camp are we almost look the same [05:06] "Philippine participants of Asia Source II" --> I count 19 [05:06] that's actually 15 participants + 4 facilitators [05:06] so what from what other countries did you have people? [05:07] hey jsgotangco [05:07] hey willvdl [05:07] south asia and south east asia [05:15] pips1: we even had 3 delegates from egypt [05:16] ha! [05:16] how long have the camps been running? [05:17] 3 years === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@mail.legalaid.mb.ca] has joined #edubuntu [05:24] s to the b to the a to the l to the n to the AV! [05:24] Solve for X [05:24] 42! [05:24] I win the math bee! [05:25] whohoo! === edubuntugirl gives sbalneav the trophee [05:26] Be happy it was the math bee I was competing in, and not the swimsuit competition. [05:26] pptpd is causing me some consternation. === RichEd shuts down his imagination before it cramps up on that image [05:27] :) [05:27] hey scotty ... hows the U S of A ? === sbalneav looks south of the border. [05:27] Still there! [05:28] Remember: I'm Canadian :) [05:28] Now HERE, it's -21 C with a 2500 wind chill [05:29] making it feel like it's -40 [05:29] Last week we had an overnight low of -52 C [05:29] So, it's winter. [05:29] sbalneav: what is pptpd? [05:30] sbalneav: geez, I've never felt under 5 C before! [05:30] edubuntugirl: google pptpd [05:30] highvoltage: Google found 'Poptop - Open Source PPTP Server', at http://www.poptop.org/ [05:30] Some whacky piece of junk to allow Windows (blech) to vpn into the network. [05:33] The nice thing is, ubuntu comes with the MPPE compression module that it needs already build into the kernel, so \o/ for Ubuntu, yet again. [05:33] ubuntu++ [05:33] edubuntugirl: ubuntu++ [05:33] edubuntugirl: karma ubuntu [05:33] highvoltage: ubuntu has karma of 1 [05:33] edubuntugirl: ubuntu++ [05:34] lots of modules available out of the box for the default kernel++ [05:34] willvdl, hi check http://ubuntu.juliux.de/edubuntu_front.png a first idea === willvdl looks [05:44] willvdl, the text is still the old one from the ubuntu flyer [05:44] groovy. the logo page looks good [05:45] do you want help on the text? [05:45] i will make the grafics and a german text [05:45] i think we need a longer time to discuss what text should be on the flyer [05:46] groovy. lets put the question to the Mailing Lists. perhaps edubuntu-devel and ubuntu-marketing? [05:46] good idea [05:47] or next edubuntu meeting [05:47] after monday i have more time [05:47] we can mention it there too but contributions will be offline [05:47] ok [05:47] perhaps a wikipage linked off ubuntu-marketing wikispace jsut to decide what text to use [05:48] i am not good enough in english to make the english text [05:48] juliux, nice front page, really. I had to look twice to realise it was the edubuntu one :) [05:48] juliux, no problem, I can translate [05:49] so perhaps we can make headlines and the text can do every locoteam [05:49] or rather, "fix" any english you might not be happy with [05:49] oooh, a translation for each LoCo. yes. [05:49] i will think about it over the weekend;) [05:49] good idea [05:50] how was your exam? [05:50] last week was good [05:51] but i have on saturday and one on monday [05:51] saturday? sucks [05:51] good luck [05:51] yes saturday from 14:00-17:00 [05:51] last saturday the examen was 7:30 [05:52] so 14:00 is much better [05:52] definately. 7:30 on a saturday is cruel :) === jaycie [i=Abc_@cetn-04-3715.dsl.iowatelecom.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:54] hi.. im trying to find the simplest linux for me.. a newbie.. whats the diff between ubuntu and edubuntu? [05:54] jaycie, edubuntu is built on ubuntu [05:55] thanks willvdl.. yes..i think i read that.. is it any simpler for a newbie? [05:55] packaged slightly differently but with LTSP by default and educational applications [05:55] jaycie, Ubuntu itself is the most user-friendly linux distro out there [05:56] ok great [05:56] pop in a live CD and give it a go [05:56] ive usex dreaded windows since 1990 and it still stinks Laugh Out Loud [05:56] trust me, I'm not a doctor :) [05:56] i have ubunut on an OLD OLD p/c [05:57] just a bit leary to put it on all our newer ones. are there popups and spyware with linux os? [05:57] ubuntu i meant [05:57] nope. [05:58] awesome! [05:58] firefox can disable browser popups on windows and linux [05:58] i use that [05:58] i still get some but i have xp [05:59] the thing is i use a script to run a server/room and we use sound.. im not sure i can with linux [05:59] jaycie: you can kiss spyware cru goodbye when you get off the IE and MS combination [05:59] *crud not cru [05:59] i would take ie off my systems if i could but seems it is glued in but i don't use it Laugh Out Loud [06:00] main thing i use puter for now are card games and our mirc [06:01] is there any way to get any type of linux on an old laptop with ONLY a floppy? [06:03] floppy? or stiffy? [06:03] my word, that is an old PC [06:03] 3 1/4 i think ya call it [06:03] Laugh Out Loud willvdl [06:04] bout 10 years old.. nice for games i thot [06:05] digital hinote II === jaycie [i=Abc_@cetn-04-3715.dsl.iowatelecom.net] has left #edubuntu [] === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === froud [n=sean@dsl-242-133-48.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [06:21] willvdl: 'stiffy' is south african slang ;) === RichEd tries not to imagine highvoltage holding a stiffy ;) [06:22] highvoltage, "slang" is an Afrikaans word. If it has been dead for a while, it could very well be a "stiffy" [06:22] hehe!! [06:23] klink soos 'n slang in die gras [06:23] highvoltage, al ooit die term "Boer jy alleen?" gehoor? [06:23] willvdl: I think I have, not sure what it means though [06:23] dis Helen se nuwe gunstelling uitdrukking [06:24] willvdl: but being a afrikaans term, I'm sure it's something dirty === highvoltage sal dit vir helen se [06:24] ons het al klaar vir haar verduidelik in watter konteks dit aanvaarbaar sal wees [06:24] hie hie [06:24] can you imagine [06:25] dit en "veruklik" (spelling?) [06:25] arme helen === RichEd vat sy slang en trek verreira [06:30] bye for today [06:31] bye! [06:46] juliux, are you going to Linux Tag? [06:46] willvdl, sure [06:46] willvdl, i will organise a ubuntu and edubuntu booth [06:46] excellent, I've got an interesting contact for you. Will introduce over email [06:46] willvdl, berlin is around 2h by car from dresden [06:47] willvdl, ok [06:47] in the next few days [06:47] excellent! [06:48] willvdl, jono will submit an ubuntu talk [06:48] alright [06:49] and RichEd? [06:49] hehe [06:51] 16th february is dealine [06:54] when is Linux Tag again? [06:54] 30may-2june [06:54] thanks [06:54] you are welcome;9 === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu === bdoin [n=coudoin@home.gcompris.net] has joined #edubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu [07:23] evening all [07:24] evening cbx33 [07:24] hi juliux [07:28] cbx33, is there allready a ltcm version for testing? [07:30] not yet [07:31] after ogra has come back with changes [07:31] there should be one before the 8th [07:31] if there is one let me know; === willvdl whips cbx33...work harder ! [07:31] i have real test sstem now hier [07:31] here [07:31] willvdl, I'm all out at the moment, everything is with ogra [07:31] heheh [07:32] the book chapter, tcm === cbx33 has a night off totally tonight [07:32] hehehe I'm greedy [07:32] same here [07:32] these darn timezones [07:32] I'm going home now for the first time before 11pm this week [07:33] have a nice evening willvdl [07:33] awww [07:33] have a good night willvdl [07:33]