| Hobbsee | Riddell: Jucato this would be political from the ubuntuforums side, wouldnt it? | 12:24 |
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| Jucato | it would | 12:24 |
| nixternal | someone just cooked something nasty in this cafeteria | 12:25 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: i keep forgetting how touchy ryan is :( | 12:25 |
| yuriy | Tonio_: i added the bug which has the problems without the media patches to the agenda. the new bugs created by them are a being bit harder to find though | 12:27 |
| Tonio_ | yuriy: I have the complete list here too | 12:30 |
| yuriy | oh alright | 12:30 |
| yuriy | oops forgot to add sig when i did that | 12:32 |
| Lure | Sime: if around - we are discussing media patches in #ubuntu-meeting | 12:33 |
| === gnomefreak wants something added from opensuse but i dont think there is time (atleast for me to build it the ubuntu way) :( | ||
| gnomefreak | and i only have kde 3.5.5 in suse 10.2 :( | 12:43 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: which? | 12:43 |
| gnomefreak | the kickoff menu i have a build but i didnt build it :( | 12:43 |
| Jucato | kickoff... | 12:44 |
| gnomefreak | i may hack it though to see what can be done to make it look a bit nicer and have a feature i want | 12:44 |
| Jucato | wasn't Tonio interested in that as well? | 12:44 |
| gnomefreak | Jucato: its a sweet menu | 12:44 |
| Jucato | sweet is subjective :P | 12:44 |
| gnomefreak | Jucato: i will have it posted in a day or so | 12:44 |
| gnomefreak | for edgy and feisty | 12:44 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: ahh | 12:45 |
| Jucato | gnomefreak: does your build include the mini cli when kickoff is in K Menu style? | 12:45 |
| gnomefreak | cli? | 12:45 |
| Jucato | er.. the search box | 12:45 |
| gnomefreak | Jucato: it has a search function but it doesnt have a cli that i remember | 12:45 |
| gnomefreak | lol | 12:45 |
| gnomefreak | yes | 12:45 |
| Jucato | oh kool | 12:45 |
| Jucato | that search box is missing from the kubuntu kickoff build that's on kde-apps | 12:46 |
| gnomefreak | opensuse's build allows you to reboot to <whateverisingrub> | 12:46 |
| Jucato | um... KDE already allows that | 12:46 |
| gnomefreak | Jucato: the one from there is no longer there | 12:46 |
| Jucato | Login Manager -> Shoutdown | 12:46 |
| gnomefreak | Jucato: no it doesnt | 12:46 |
| gnomefreak | than you have to choose OS from grub | 12:47 |
| Jucato | select GRUB from the list | 12:47 |
| gnomefreak | this allows you to skip grub | 12:47 |
| Jucato | ah | 12:47 |
| Lure | gnomefreak: it does - just need to enable the option in Login manager | 12:47 |
| gnomefreak | ah ok | 12:48 |
| === Jucato whistles innocently :) | ||
| gnomefreak | never saw that :) wonder if it will add it to kickoff. brb gonna go to kde and see if i cant hack it a bit | 12:48 |
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| Jucato | wb gnomefreak | 12:53 |
| gnomefreak | ty | 12:53 |
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| gnomefreak | kde control center has really lost alot it seems there is only 2 things listed there now | 12:56 |
| Jucato | feisty, right? | 12:56 |
| gnomefreak | yeah 3.5.6 | 12:56 |
| Jucato | :P | 12:56 |
| Hobbsee | !schedule | 01:04 |
| ubotu | Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Feisty Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule | 01:04 |
| Jucato | Feb 15, Feature Freeze... :( | 01:04 |
| Jucato | https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members <-- I join this, right? | 01:04 |
| Jucato | Hobbsee: ^^ | 01:04 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: yeah | 01:05 |
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| ScottK | Hobbsee: I heard that you were working kmail encryption stuff. I'm interested in getting S/MIIME by default in Feisty. | 01:08 |
| manchicken | I already joined that. Do I wait for someone to improve it? | 01:08 |
| Jucato | yep | 01:09 |
| Jucato | manchicken: ^ | 01:09 |
| Hobbsee | ScottK: same here. oh drat, i had changes that i never got uploaded. | 01:09 |
| === ScottK is very interested in that and would love to help out. | ||
| manchicken | I did join kubuntu-members | 01:10 |
| Hobbsee | manchicken: hrm? s/improve/approve | 01:10 |
| manchicken | Yeah | 01:10 |
| Hobbsee | ScottK: okay, will poke you after the meeting about it :) | 01:10 |
| manchicken | My mistake. | 01:10 |
| Hobbsee | manchicken: :) | 01:10 |
| Jucato | lol | 01:10 |
| === manchicken just whipped out the hacker-pscorr | ||
| === Jucato can't believe he missed that | ||
| ScottK | OK. I'll be AFK for the next few hours. | 01:10 |
| ScottK | Make that about an hour and then I'll be back. | 01:14 |
| manchicken | Hobbsee: So was that a "yes" that someone has to approve me? | 01:15 |
| Jucato | manchicken: Riddel has to approve us | 01:16 |
| Hobbsee | manchicken: correct | 01:16 |
| manchicken | Ahhhh. Okay | 01:16 |
| === Hobbsee doesnt have admin to it (yet?) | ||
| Jucato | @schedule | 01:18 |
| Jucato | bah nvm lol | 01:18 |
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| Hobbsee | Riddell: you want to talk now or later? | 01:49 |
| Jucato | Tonio_: the arrow for the system tray is too big, imho | 01:49 |
| === allee needs sleep. Nite | ||
| Riddell | Hobbsee: oh, the mailing list | 01:49 |
| Jucato | g'night allee | 01:49 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: well your post was only blocked because it had too many To:'s on it | 01:50 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: yeah, i realise that. | 01:50 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: so it's easy to avoid in future | 01:50 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: is there anyone else who gets moderated, etc? | 01:50 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: if you're an admin you'll get lots of spam notices | 01:50 |
| Riddell | that's the only thing that's moderated | 01:50 |
| Riddell | since non-spam non-subscribers just get rejected | 01:51 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: ahh right. | 01:51 |
| Hobbsee | so that's how you're doing it | 01:51 |
| Hobbsee | yep | 01:51 |
| Riddell | so you get lots of spam moderation requests and no useful ones (except yours which was the first in about 6 months) | 01:51 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: yes it is too big, but that can be changed I assume | 01:51 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: other question was on the LP kubuntu-members team - there are a few who clearly need declining | 01:51 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 01:51 |
| Hobbsee | and the two that still need acking, unless youv'e done them | 01:51 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'll try to get the networkstatus patches in for friday, that would be nice | 01:52 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: since you e-mailed everyone I think I'll decline them all now with a polite message | 01:52 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: okay | 01:52 |
| Jucato | Tonio_: hopefully, but if it's anything like the panel-hiding buttons on kicker itself... then might not be possible :( | 01:52 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: indeed | 01:53 |
| === Hobbsee --> afk | ||
| Riddell | ash211: you applied for kubuntu-members? | 01:53 |
| ash211 | oh yes, I did | 01:53 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, he couldnt make it, i dont think | 01:53 |
| ash211 | just got back from a piano lesson | 01:53 |
| ash211 | is it too late? | 01:53 |
| Hobbsee | yeah | 01:53 |
| ash211 | there's always next time | 01:54 |
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| Hobbsee | indeed :) | 01:55 |
| Jucato | wow piano lessons... | 01:55 |
| === Jucato remembers his frustrated violin plans... | ||
| ash211 | been taking for 9 years | 01:56 |
| Jucato | kool | 01:56 |
| === Hobbsee plays flute | ||
| === Hobbsee --> really afk | ||
| Jucato | kooler :) | 01:56 |
| ash211 | I like the flute | 01:56 |
| === n8k99_ plays cornet | ||
| Jucato | yay!! I'm approved. thanks! thank you Riddell | 01:57 |
| ash211 | wow, I'd never heard of a cornet before | 01:57 |
| ash211 | good thing wikipedia knows what it is! | 01:57 |
| manchicken | Sweet. | 01:57 |
| === manchicken is a kubuntuer | ||
| === ajmitch is not so fortunate | ||
| === yuriy is curious about this ubucon thing | ||
| Jucato | manchicken: are you printing out calling cards? heheh :) | 02:00 |
| manchicken | heh | 02:00 |
| manchicken | As soon as I get that super-cool @kubuntu.org email. | 02:00 |
| Riddell | ajmitch: which doesn't mean we don't want you! | 02:00 |
| manchicken | heh | 02:00 |
| Riddell | manchicken: should happen automatically over the next 24 hours | 02:00 |
| Riddell | (I think) | 02:00 |
| Jucato | ooh yeah.. forgot about that :) | 02:00 |
| n8k99_ | yuriy where are you located? | 02:01 |
| yuriy | n8k99_: boston area | 02:01 |
| Jucato | Riddell: will it be something like launchpad_name@kubuntu.org? | 02:01 |
| manchicken | Groovy. | 02:01 |
| Riddell | Jucato: yes | 02:01 |
| Jucato | nice :) | 02:01 |
| Riddell | wow, lots of people wanting in kubuntu-team | 02:01 |
| Jucato | manchicken@kubuntu.org :) | 02:01 |
| manchicken | w00t | 02:01 |
| n8k99_ | yuriy did you see my flyer for Ubucon? or the wiki page for it? | 02:01 |
| manchicken | Now to get back to business... | 02:02 |
| Jucato | kubuntu-team is for the developers, right? | 02:02 |
| manchicken | Ack, I've got a church meeting shortly, too. | 02:02 |
| yuriy | n8k99_: i just saw the flyer | 02:02 |
| Jucato | manchicken: heh luckily my church job only happens mostly on weekends :) | 02:02 |
| yuriy | n8k99_: i'm wondering whether to go. though it's on a weekday, but the day before break | 02:02 |
| manchicken | heh | 02:02 |
| n8k99_ | yuriy it looks like tons of fun, i live in Brooklyn but a friend of mine is getting married in Virginia that day!! | 02:03 |
| manchicken | Jucato: Lucky you ^_^ | 02:03 |
| yuriy | i'm going to post about it in the nu loco team forum | 02:04 |
| n8k99_ | ah! brilliant | 02:04 |
| yuriy | n8k99_: are you in it btw? | 02:05 |
| n8k99_ | yuriy in what? | 02:06 |
| yuriy | n8k99_: nu (northeastern us) ubuntu team | 02:06 |
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| n8k99_ | i think i tried to join that- | 02:09 |
| n8k99_ | maybe not | 02:09 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: kubuntu-team is all the kubuntu people - just is a bug contact (that ML) | 02:12 |
| Jucato | aaaah | 02:12 |
| gnomefreak | i uploaded the kickoff menu :) | 02:16 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 02:17 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: to where? | 02:17 |
| gnomefreak | ah hold on | 02:17 |
| Jucato | anyone know if you can switch to fullscreen in Xephyr? | 02:18 |
| Riddell | gnomefreak: ?! | 02:18 |
| gnomefreak | the kickoff menu for kde i have one (unofficially built) a few people wanted to try it | 02:19 |
| gnomefreak | Hobbsee: http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/ | 02:20 |
| n8k99_ | yuriy are you GAmeMank? | 02:20 |
| yuriy | n8k99_: yeah | 02:21 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: ahhh | 02:21 |
| n8k99_ | yuriy is there a northeeast loco wiki page? or something?/ | 02:23 |
| yuriy | n8k99_: there's a wiki page but i think it's incomplete. and there's a webpage. it's all in one of the sticky threads in the forum, i g2g | 02:24 |
| yuriy | hw :( | 02:24 |
| n8k99_ | yuriy: looks like i already joined that launchpad team, haha | 02:32 |
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| bddebian | Heya | 03:02 |
| Jucato | hi bddebian | 03:03 |
| bddebian | Heya Jucato | 03:03 |
| ScottK | Hobbsee: I'm basically back at the keyboard if you want to discuss Kmail and S/MIME... | 03:08 |
| Hobbsee | ScottK: woot. let me grab lunch... | 03:08 |
| Hobbsee | once it heats | 03:09 |
| === ScottK will go grab a Scotch. | ||
| Jucato | lunch.... | 03:11 |
| Hobbsee | right | 03:12 |
| === ScottK is back too. | ||
| Hobbsee | ScottK: basically, i want to know: 1) does it work in current format? | 03:14 |
| Hobbsee | 2) does it work in current format + gpgsm | 03:14 |
| Hobbsee | where work means work with encrypted mails, signed mails, all out of the box | 03:14 |
| ScottK | So far I know you need to add at least gpgsm and gpg-agent with their dependencies. | 03:14 |
| Hobbsee | gpg-agent as well? | 03:15 |
| ScottK | Yes. | 03:15 |
| ScottK | Kmail whines steadily if it's not there. | 03:15 |
| Hobbsee | what happens if you have pinetry-qt in there instead? | 03:15 |
| ScottK | I'm not sure yet that Kleopatra is needed. | 03:15 |
| ScottK | Dunno. Didn't try that. | 03:15 |
| Hobbsee | do you want to try to? (without gpg-agent being installed) | 03:16 |
| ScottK | The complaint was about no agent, but I can try that. | 03:16 |
| === ScottK needs to get a complete working config first and then see what can be taken away from it. | ||
| claydoh | Hobbsee: did someone propose me for membership, or did I apply many many moons ago? | 03:17 |
| Hobbsee | well, yeah. but i want a complete config working with what's in main, then seeing what of universe need to be added | 03:17 |
| === claydoh is curious | ||
| ScottK | I had Kmail + S/MIME working with opensuse 10.1 and KDE 3.5.1. I've got verification working on Dapper, but have never been able to get signing working. | 03:17 |
| Hobbsee | claydoh: you were on the proposed kubuntu-members list. | 03:18 |
| Hobbsee | on launchpad | 03:18 |
| Hobbsee | ScottK: right. | 03:18 |
| claydoh | I just wonder how i got there | 03:18 |
| Hobbsee | claydoh: you applied ages ago maybe? not sure | 03:18 |
| claydoh | maybe, I could have but that was long long ago | 03:18 |
| Hobbsee | quite likely | 03:19 |
| claydoh | I don't think i qualify anyway, really | 03:19 |
| ScottK | I think what I need to do is purge the configs I copied over from opensuse and start from scratch. | 03:19 |
| claydoh | yet that is | 03:19 |
| === ScottK will try it without kleopatra first. | ||
| Hobbsee | okay | 03:20 |
| Hobbsee | yes | 03:20 |
| Hobbsee | that would greatly help | 03:20 |
| === Hobbsee cant test, as she uses imap mail | ||
| ScottK | S/MIME should work fine with imap??? | 03:20 |
| Hobbsee | kmail has a serious bug about selecting imap messages - mail tends to crash every min or so that you're selecting things, or deleting them, etc | 03:21 |
| ScottK | ok. | 03:21 |
| Hobbsee | makes it rather unusable | 03:21 |
| === ScottK remembers why he doesn't use Kmail with IMAP... | ||
| Hobbsee | hehe | 03:21 |
| Hobbsee | thunderbird is better | 03:21 |
| ScottK | Yep. Better for S/MIME too. | 03:21 |
| Hobbsee | i dont know...i had to fight with thunderbird to get it to encrypt my mail... | 03:22 |
| Jucato | claydoh: well, we'll make sure you will qualify in a few months' time : | 03:22 |
| Jucato | :) | 03:22 |
| claydoh | heh | 03:22 |
| claydoh | I love it when someone has secret plas for me I like surprises | 03:23 |
| ScottK | OK, so you fought T-bird and got it to work.... If you never got Kmail to work, that's better... | 03:23 |
| Jucato | claydoh: I have plans for KFN... unfortunately, hindered on both sides of the fence :( | 03:23 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 03:23 |
| bddebian | claydoh: You might want to watch out for Hobbsee's secret plans. THey usually involved weapons of some sort :-) | 03:23 |
| claydoh | I understand a little | 03:23 |
| === Hobbsee attacks bddebian with the secret weapon | ||
| Jucato | :) | 03:24 |
| Hobbsee | :P | 03:24 |
| crimsun | /quit crazy weapons | 03:24 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: heh, you wish | 03:24 |
| === Jucato thinks it's time to take out and to reveal the the world his long pointy spear of devastation :) | ||
| ajmitch | crimsun: time to run away? | 03:24 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: you wish | 03:24 |
| Jucato | Hobbsee: wishing is free, isn't it? :) | 03:25 |
| Hobbsee | true | 03:25 |
| n8k99_ | Jucato that is nothing compared to the stick Hobbsee carries | 03:27 |
| Jucato | heh :) | 03:28 |
| Jucato | of course. her's has been sharpened and refined almost to a perfection | 03:28 |
| === n8k99_ wonders why he is so scared of Hobbsee and her PointyStick | ||
| Jucato | well.. almost :) | 03:28 |
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| bddebian | heh | 03:29 |
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| Hobbsee | n8k99_: smart move :) :P | 03:34 |
| === n8k99_ not as dumb as he looks | ||
| Hobbsee | you dont look dumb at all :) | 03:36 |
| === Hobbsee really isnt scary, unless you do idiotic things | ||
| === Jucato doesn't know what n8k99_ looks like at al | ||
| Jucato | all* | 03:36 |
| Jucato | Hobbsee actually (ironically) looks nice and sweet :P | 03:37 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 03:37 |
| n8k99_ | just a silly saying that is handed down from my father | 03:37 |
| Jucato | yay! Kubuntu (edgy) installed... hm.. now what... | 03:38 |
| n8k99_ | Jucato: upgrade to feisty ;-) | 03:38 |
| Jucato | not on this machine :P | 03:38 |
| Jucato | oh man I love this... my KAFS and Kubuntu side by side... so far so good :) | 03:39 |
| ScottK | Hobbsee: It occurs to me that if you want a pop mailbox to test with, I can give you one. | 03:39 |
| ajmitch | Jucato: you've had the honour of meeting Hobbsee ? | 03:40 |
| === Hobbsee --> work | ||
| Jucato | ajmitch: no not yet, just a pic I stole from her :) | 03:40 |
| Hobbsee | ScottK: i'll be OK. | 03:40 |
| ScottK | OK | 03:40 |
| Hobbsee | bye all! | 03:40 |
| Jucato | bye Hobbsee! | 03:40 |
| gnomefreak | anyone on feisty 3.5.6 aptdept showing upgrades? | 03:49 |
| gnomefreak | it says new version of kubuntu | 03:49 |
| gnomefreak | and than click upgrade and it goes away (ill end up checking /var/crash but i dont think its crashing | 03:50 |
| ScottK | There's a bug on that. | 03:50 |
| Jucato | it's a bug in Adept afaik (mentioned in the Herd 2 page) | 03:51 |
| ScottK | Bug 82034 | 03:51 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 82034 in adept "Adept proposes upgrade of Kubuntu and then exits (dup-of: 80618)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82034 | 03:51 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 80618 in adept "adept-installer crashes when clicking next on 'there seems to be an update' dialog" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80618 | 03:51 |
| gnomefreak | ah | 03:51 |
| gnomefreak | ty | 03:51 |
| ScottK | Is Akgregator starting on system start automatically a bug or a feature? | 03:55 |
| Jucato | depends if it was left open before logging out? | 03:56 |
| ScottK | I've never run it before on this machine. | 03:56 |
| gnomefreak | i did some apport updates and the adept-notifier went away so there were updates just it was listed wrong i guess | 03:56 |
| Jucato | hm. if it's on feisty, I have no clue... | 03:56 |
| gnomefreak | ScottK: it doesnt start here on its own | 03:56 |
| ScottK | hmmm | 03:57 |
| ScottK | It didn't for me until today. | 03:57 |
| ScottK | There was a new kde pim today. | 03:57 |
| === ScottK is suspicious | ||
| gnomefreak | that would do it but i dont remember seeing that upddate | 03:57 |
| gnomefreak | ha i dont have kdepim installed | 03:58 |
| ScottK | That'll do it. | 03:58 |
| gnomefreak | so it would have to be with that | 03:58 |
| === ScottK doesn't see a button to make it not do that. | ||
| === ScottK goes to file a bug. | ||
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| === gnomefreak found the kickoff i have been looking for with all the right features. finally :) still no source without building kde | ||
| ryanakca | hmm... meeting still going? | 04:17 |
| ScottK | Bug #82594 | 04:17 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 82594 in kdepim "Akregrator starts automatically in Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82594 | 04:17 |
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| nixternal | oi! | 05:51 |
| ajmitch | hello nixternal | 05:53 |
| nixternal | hiya ajmitch | 05:54 |
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| nixternal | how come restricted-modules are installed by default now? have they always been and I just never caught it? | 06:45 |
| ScottK | I think they always were, but am not sure. | 06:47 |
| nixternal | hrmm, I am not a fan of that | 06:48 |
| ScottK | There's been a lot of press about it. | 06:51 |
| ScottK | I can see both sides of the issue. | 06:52 |
| nixternal | Well, I think it should be left out by default. If you are going to use NVidia or ATI drivers, then install it. But I don't believe it is needed for things like NDISWrapper or bcm43xx-fwcutter iirc. | 06:54 |
| ScottK | There's a balance between just working and being 'Free'. | 06:57 |
| ScottK | WIreless is pure pain lots of the time and even though it's because of proprietary drivers, that's not who gets blamed. | 06:58 |
| ScottK | It would be interesting to see if Ubuntu has enough market share now to push anyone into opening up their drivers... | 06:58 |
| seaLne | why would they bother if ubuntu uses the non free stuff | 06:59 |
| ScottK | Dunno. Just ran across this on the topic http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20070131081243482 | 07:00 |
| ScottK | Probably because users bitch the non-free stuff doesn't work very well (witness no Acrobat in Feisty). | 07:01 |
| seaLne | i worry that using by default nonfree stuff will actually put back progres | 07:01 |
| nixternal | seaLne: +1 | 07:01 |
| ScottK | I understand and I don't know that you're wrong, but there's always been some non-free stuff installed by default. | 07:01 |
| nixternal | I don't see why restricted needs to be installed. As a matter of fact, I use NDISWrapper and I do not have the restricted modules installed | 07:02 |
| nixternal | what non-free stuff has been installed by default? | 07:02 |
| nixternal | maybe I am missing something | 07:02 |
| === ScottK thinks there was display stuff, but is working from an admittedly poor memory on the topic. | ||
| ScottK | IIRC the policy has been to install it if it was needed to make the system work. | 07:03 |
| nixternal | ScottK: I think adding it as a dependency to say ATI (fglrx) and the NVidia (nvidia) drivers and what not is fine, but if there is nothing non-free being installed, then it isn't needed | 07:04 |
| ScottK | That makes sense. | 07:04 |
| nixternal | nvidia-glx does depend on the restricted-modules already it seems | 07:05 |
| seaLne | i'd say the opposite that not having free graphics is bad, its one of the most basic pieces of hardware | 07:05 |
| ScottK | There's always this: http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20061102083226821 | 07:05 |
| ScottK | seaLne: The question is though, what do you tell a user with PC with a graphics card with no free driver? | 07:06 |
| nixternal | ScottK: and now that they have a KDE release, I am using it :) | 07:06 |
| nixternal | on my other system, I could never get rid of Kubuntu | 07:06 |
| seaLne | nixternal: ah didn't know that | 07:06 |
| nixternal | ya seaLne, it is pretty solid | 07:06 |
| ScottK | Hmmm | 07:06 |
| seaLne | how do they differ? | 07:06 |
| nixternal | gNewSense and Kubuntu? | 07:07 |
| nixternal | or the gNewSense KDE and the Kubuntu KDE? | 07:07 |
| seaLne | yeah apart from the obvious nonfree stuff | 07:07 |
| nixternal | artwork really | 07:07 |
| nixternal | otherwise it is pretty much the same. I haven't spent much time digging into it just yet | 07:07 |
| nixternal | so far my 2 favorite distros with a KDE implementation have to be Kubuntu and Slackware | 07:09 |
| nixternal | I used to like SuSE, but they have modeled their KDE to mimic Windows to much | 07:09 |
| nixternal | granted the Slackware KDE is vanilla | 07:10 |
| === ScottK got tired of being a SLES beta tester with opensuse. That's how I got to Kubuntu. | ||
| nixternal | anybody have anything that needs to be added to the Herd 3 release notes btw? | 07:11 |
| ScottK | Is the dbud/power manager memory leak mentioned? | 07:11 |
| ScottK | dbud/dbus | 07:11 |
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| ScottK | Bug 82313 | 07:11 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 82313 in dbus-python "Guidance-power manager memory growth in Feisty" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82313 | 07:11 |
| nixternal | granted, I think for a switcher, OpenSUSE 10.2 is possibly a tad bit easier than Kubuntu int he respect of it looking similar or having some similar functionality to that of Windows | 07:11 |
| ScottK | I think that's work a mention. | 07:12 |
| nixternal | now when it comes down to package management with OpenSUSE and a new user, OUCH! | 07:12 |
| ScottK | work/worth | 07:12 |
| nixternal | Well, if it is fixed :) | 07:12 |
| nixternal | That will go in the "We know it's broke" section in the feedback area | 07:12 |
| ScottK | No it's not. I was thinking about mentioning it in the open issues. | 07:13 |
| ScottK | Yeah. That section. | 07:13 |
| nixternal | hehe, I think someone may have posted already | 07:13 |
| ScottK | OK. | 07:13 |
| nixternal | actually, no they haven't | 07:13 |
| ScottK | That's the one new problem that's really kicked my behind lately. | 07:13 |
| nixternal | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyFawn/Herd3/Kubuntu/Feedback | 07:13 |
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| nixternal | if you want to hook it up :) | 07:13 |
| nixternal | brb, gotta doctor up some screenshots of KDevelop for the release notes | 07:14 |
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| ScottK | I'll put it in there... | 07:19 |
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| ScottK | So that got me started on my wiki page so there'd be something to link to... | 07:27 |
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| Jucato | manchicken: have you asked for a cloak already? | 07:34 |
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| Jiraiya | Salut | 07:35 |
| Jiraiya | Il sert a quoi ce salon ? | 07:35 |
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| Jiraiya | Yo chavo | 07:55 |
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| Jucato | hi chavo | 07:55 |
| chavo | hi | 07:55 |
| === Jucato wonders whether Naruto is here, if Jiraiya is here... | ||
| ScottK | nixternal: I imagine you saw my input for the Herd 3 release notes. | 07:56 |
| === ScottK is off to bed. | ||
| MrWGW- | Jucato, if I might dare to ask you an off topic question, how do you do that in this IRC channel? | 07:56 |
| Jiraiya | ca parle anglais ici :/ | 07:56 |
| MrWGW- | where you make it say that you are doing "X" | 07:56 |
| Jucato | MrWGW-: /me <message> | 07:56 |
| MrWGW- | thanks a lot | 07:56 |
| Jucato | !fr | 07:56 |
| ubotu | Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais. | 07:56 |
| === MrWGW- <is grateful for the assistance> | ||
| MrWGW- | was that correct? | 07:56 |
| Jiraiya | ou je sais :) | 07:56 |
| Jiraiya | @plus | 07:57 |
| Jucato | MrWGW-: without the < > :) | 07:57 |
| MrWGW- | ahh | 07:57 |
| MrWGW- | haha | 07:57 |
| Jiraiya | Bye | 07:57 |
| Jucato | bye | 07:57 |
| ScottK | And you have to remember to write in the third person. | 07:57 |
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| === ScottK still has trouble with that. | ||
| === MrWGW- wonders if Kwwii is up yet | ||
| === Jucato doesn't think I have to write in the 3rd person lol | ||
| Jucato | see? it looks strange :) | 07:57 |
| === MrWGW- will watch South Park, otherwise | ||
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| MrWGW- | ROFL | 07:58 |
| MrWGW- | or perhaps | 07:58 |
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| MrWGW- | for extreme pretense, one could theoretically chat like that exclusively | 07:59 |
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| MrWGW- | hahahahaha | 09:44 |
| MrWGW- | I have become the most pretentious chatter on Freenode! | 09:44 |
| MrWGW- | muahaha | 09:44 |
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| Tonio_ | hi | 10:29 |
| Jucato | hi Tonio_ | 10:29 |
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| jeroenvrp | Herd CD 3 | 12:20 |
| jeroenvrp | today? | 12:20 |
| jeroenvrp | Does that mean I can start bughunting while using Feisty for my daily work?! | 12:21 |
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| hunger | I have not seen updates in a while... Is there some freeze in effect or is my mirror lagging behind developments? | 01:24 |
| Riddell | herd 3 freeze | 01:25 |
| hunger | How booooring;-) | 01:25 |
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| Riddell | and if people want to start testing alternate CDs that would be very welcome | 01:25 |
| ScottK | Hobbsee: No luck so far with Kmail and S/MIME. Signing fails with an incredibly helpful error message - "General error". I haven't had much time to research it yet, but I haven't given up. | 01:27 |
| Hobbsee | ScottK: fun. | 01:27 |
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| Hobbsee | ScottK: which deps was that with? | 01:27 |
| ScottK | I needed gpgsm and gnupg-agent to get that far. | 01:28 |
| ScottK | I tried pinetry-qt and no agent, but Kmail cried. | 01:28 |
| praetor | ScottK: Have you compiled kmail from kde svn by chance? | 01:28 |
| ScottK | No | 01:28 |
| ScottK | Using the standard Kubuntu Kmail for Feisty. | 01:29 |
| praetor | Ah ok. I am getting a cmake error about the CMakeLists file strangely | 01:29 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'm starting the networkstatus thing :) | 01:29 |
| Tonio_ | looks likea bit complicated hehe :) | 01:29 |
| Hobbsee | ScottK: ahh | 01:29 |
| Hobbsee | ScottK: right, so gnupg-agent appears to be a must. | 01:30 |
| ScottK | With gpgsm and gnupg-agent installed it at least THINKs it can do it and the error is out of one of the crypto bit. | 01:30 |
| ScottK | Yes. | 01:30 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 01:30 |
| Hobbsee | what happens with pinetry in there? | 01:30 |
| Hobbsee | as well as gpgsm and gnupg-agent | 01:30 |
| Hobbsee | (gpgsm is fine, i just forgot to add it as a build dep last time) | 01:30 |
| Hobbsee | that's in main already, so that's easy to add | 01:30 |
| ScottK | Same as without. Kmail complains about no agent as soon as you start to edit the Identity. | 01:31 |
| Hobbsee | is that pinetry + gpgsm, or pinetry + gnupg-agent + gpgsm? | 01:31 |
| ScottK | I'm pretty sure that Kleopatra will not be necessary. | 01:31 |
| Hobbsee | excellent :) | 01:31 |
| ScottK | I installed gpgsm + gnupg-agent and that drags, among other things, pinentry-qt with it. | 01:32 |
| Hobbsee | oh? how? | 01:33 |
| ScottK | Based on the logging, I suspect that the format my private key is in is not good for Kubuntu. I need to investigate. | 01:33 |
| Hobbsee | oh, recommends by default, yes | 01:33 |
| Hobbsee | it should be fine, if ti's a gpg key. hrm, interesting. that's 2 MIR's then. although i thoguth gpg-agent was in main for a while | 01:34 |
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| Hobbsee | ScottK: oh neat. gpg-agent source is in main, but binaries are in universe. some at least | 01:34 |
| ScottK | I think suspect it's the folder name or I need to do something with a config file. | 01:35 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: do you know if networkstatus includes kopete's patches ? | 01:35 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I seem to remember it allows kopete to connect dependingthe networkstatus | 01:35 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: I believe the patches include one for kopete | 01:35 |
| ScottK | Working through this I did manage to verify one bug is not fixed... Bug 42086 | 01:35 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 42086 in gnupg2 "gpg-agent has wrong dependency to pinentry-ncurses" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42086 | 01:35 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: okay I already extracted the patches for kdepim | 01:35 |
| ScottK | Err, that's bug is fixed. | 01:36 |
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| ScottK | Hobbsee: I am not sure about dirmnger yet. It also may be required. | 01:39 |
| ScottK | Or dirmngr even. | 01:40 |
| Hobbsee | ScottK: woo. this has pretty much stopped making sense to me, especially after reading that bug report | 01:40 |
| ScottK | No problem. Bottom line is I'm still working on it. | 01:41 |
| === ScottK ignored the topic drift in the bug report and closed it because the actual issue that had been reported is fixed. | ||
| Riddell | ScottK: danimo would be a good person to ask for help when he turns up next | 01:41 |
| Hobbsee | ScottK: cool :) | 01:42 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Thanks. | 01:42 |
| Hobbsee | ScottK: yeah, saw that. | 01:42 |
| === Hobbsee pokes him | ||
| Hobbsee | done | 01:44 |
| Hobbsee | ScottK: ^ | 01:44 |
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| Hobbsee | gah. should have waited till he actually joined | 01:44 |
| Hobbsee | there | 01:44 |
| Hobbsee | ScottK: ^ | 01:44 |
| danimo | hi | 01:44 |
| Hobbsee | heya | 01:44 |
| ScottK | hI | 01:44 |
| ScottK | Riddell: suggested you (danimo) would be a good person to ask about getting S/MIME signing configured in Kmail... | 01:45 |
| danimo | yeah | 01:45 |
| danimo | what's the problem? | 01:46 |
| ScottK | After getting all the necessary bits installed and my keys set up for the relevant identity, when I sign a message it attempts to sign and then... | 01:46 |
| ScottK | Fails with a very helpful 'general error' | 01:46 |
| ScottK | The suspicous point in the logs is at one port gpg-agent logs ERR6710881 No secret key <GPG Agent> | 01:50 |
| === ScottK put the secret key into .gnupg. | ||
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'm unable to find any kded related patch.... | 01:51 |
| === ScottK is still investigating and trying figure it out. | ||
| Tonio_ | all I can find in the src.rpm files is the kdepim related diffs | 01:51 |
| ScottK | That's the problem. | 01:51 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: ping ? | 01:51 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_, i dont have that IBM info anymore | 01:53 |
| imbrandon | i couldent find it | 01:53 |
| imbrandon | danimo, !!! long time man | 01:54 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: okay thanks I'll re-register then :) | 01:54 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: maybe there is a "remind password" thing, in that case you might receive a password by mail soon :) | 01:54 |
| imbrandon | k | 01:55 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 01:55 |
| danimo | heya imbrandon | 01:55 |
| === danimo is a bit busy, since he's with others to prepare an exam, so excuse delayed replies | ||
| Tonio_ | Riddell: http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/opensuse/OSS-factory/x86_64/kdepim3-networkstatus-3.5.5-52.x86_64.html | 01:55 |
| imbrandon | danimo, no worries, me too actualy | 01:55 |
| Tonio_ | hehe it looks like the 2 patches contain everything :) | 01:55 |
| danimo | imbrandon: what course? | 01:56 |
| imbrandon | the busy part ( i'm at work ) | 01:56 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 01:56 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_, yea i've been playing with some suse sources lately, very nice in some respects | 01:56 |
| Hobbsee | danimo: ahh, sorry :( | 01:56 |
| imbrandon | i have 10.2 in a vm | 01:57 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: yup, we try to implement the networkstatus thing | 01:57 |
| danimo | imbrandon: ah, ok | 01:57 |
| danimo | imbrandon: I've uml f*ck to learn | 01:57 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 01:57 |
| danimo | Riddell: (hence the sudden interest in umbrello btw) | 01:57 |
| imbrandon | brb | 01:57 |
| danimo | ScottK: sounds tricky | 01:58 |
| ScottK | Yeah. | 01:59 |
| ScottK | The keys are in a format/directory that I had working with opensuse 10.1 and KDE 3.5.1. I am suspecting something is different here. | 02:00 |
| Lure | Tonio_: thanks for soundkonverter upload | 02:04 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: you're welcome | 02:04 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: what do you know about those networkstatus patches | 02:04 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: all I can find is just 2 little patches for kdepim | 02:04 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: I thought everything was linked to knetworkmanager, including etc.... | 02:04 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: but there is nothing about that in the src rpms | 02:04 |
| Tonio_ | including "kopete" sorry | 02:05 |
| imbrandon | sdfsdf | 02:05 |
| imbrandon | whoops | 02:06 |
| Lure | Tonio_: in kdepim, you have networkstatus dir which is kded module, then there are patches for kmail and I think kopete to ask networkstatus module for online/offline | 02:06 |
| Lure | Tonio_: afair networkstatus takes care of network detection - network-manager is just one source of info about networks | 02:07 |
| Lure | Tonio_: first, include networkstatus to be build, then when this works, we can integrate per app patches to support it | 02:08 |
| Lure | Tonio_: and we can work on patches for other apps that might interest us (konversation) | 02:08 |
| imbrandon | nevar | 02:08 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 02:08 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: the point is that I don't see any patches :) | 02:08 |
| Tonio_ | find ./ | grep networkstatus | 02:08 |
| Tonio_ | ./SOURCES/kmail-networkstatus-support.diff | 02:08 |
| Tonio_ | ./SOURCES/slox-networkstatus-usage.diff | 02:08 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: that's all I have in the all kdebase, kdenetwork, kdelibs and kdepim sources | 02:08 |
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| === Hobbsee --> bed | ||
| imbrandon | gnight Hobbsee | 02:09 |
| ScottK | Goodnight. | 02:09 |
| Lure | Tonio_: I do not think it is a patch - it is a directory added into kdepim package | 02:09 |
| Hobbsee | night! | 02:09 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: you missed the meeting earlier, btw | 02:09 |
| Lure | Hobbsee: good nite! | 02:09 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: argh........ | 02:09 |
| Tonio_ | changed tarball ? | 02:09 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_, it should be dir | 02:09 |
| Tonio_ | dude that's crappy...... | 02:09 |
| imbrandon | yea io was sleeping hobbsee | 02:09 |
| Lure | Tonio_: afair - I did not look into this for couple of months though | 02:09 |
| imbrandon | couldent make it | 02:09 |
| Lure | Tonio_: I know, that is why we should do better | 02:10 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: networkstatus dir is already upstream ;) | 02:10 |
| Tonio_ | I get it in the ubuntu package | 02:10 |
| imbrandon | but is it building/installing | 02:10 |
| imbrandon | ? | 02:10 |
| Jucato | g'night Hobbsee! | 02:10 |
| Lure | Tonio_: interesting... then we just need to build it and make it work... | 02:10 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: need to check the makefiles :) | 02:11 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 02:11 |
| Jucato | hi imbrandon, Tonio_, Lure :) | 02:11 |
| Tonio_ | Trying patch debian/patches/kubuntu_09_kmail-networkstatus-support.diff at level 0...success. | 02:11 |
| Tonio_ | Trying patch debian/patches/kubuntu_10_slox-networkstatus-usage.diff at level 0...1...2...failure. | 02:11 |
| Lure | Tonio_: maybe there is ./configure option? | 02:11 |
| imbrandon | ello Jucato | 02:11 |
| Tonio_ | good poitn for the first patch | 02:11 |
| Tonio_ | dunno what provides the second | 02:11 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: we compile networkstatus | 02:13 |
| Lure | Tonio_: interesting - is it included in package | 02:13 |
| Tonio_ | looks like we just miss the files | 02:13 |
| Tonio_ | .install file to patch | 02:13 |
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| Tonio_ | Lure, imbrandon: suro apt-get install networkstatus | 02:23 |
| Tonio_ | we already ship with everything | 02:23 |
| Tonio_ | just not installed by default..... | 02:23 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: maybe we just have to change the seeds ;) hehe | 02:24 |
| Tonio_ | testing the result ;) | 02:24 |
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| Tonio__ | Riddell: looks like the networkstatus package already exists, we just have to change the seeds | 02:29 |
| Tonio__ | ;) | 02:29 |
| Tonio__ | concerning the patches for the apps to use it, I'll have to investigate | 02:29 |
| Tonio__ | Riddell: looks like none of our apps use the service btw | 02:32 |
| Tonio__ | no change while starting kmail or kopete with unpluged network | 02:32 |
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| Lure | Tonio__: interesting - you need to start it in Service Manager | 02:38 |
| Lure | Tonio__: but patches are probably not there | 02:38 |
| Riddell | does it talk to network-manager? | 02:38 |
| Tonio__ | Riddell: I don't know | 02:40 |
| Tonio__ | Riddell: the service is installed and started here | 02:40 |
| Tonio__ | but I don't see any change using kopete or kmail | 02:40 |
| Tonio__ | Riddell: there is a binary to use with dcop to make tests : networkstatustestservice | 02:40 |
| Tonio__ | I have to test ;) | 02:40 |
| Tonio__ | Lure: kopete code includes networkstatus related things | 02:41 |
| Tonio__ | Lure: I think all the patches are merged in fact | 02:41 |
| Tonio__ | Lure: I need to figure out how to activate this | 02:41 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: I tried several things but nothing comes up | 02:47 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: maybe knetworkmanager needs to be patched to use networkstatus.... | 02:47 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: looks like complicated stuff hehe :) | 02:47 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: haha ;) | 02:49 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: Added kubuntu_05_no_network_status.patch to avoid using networkstatus. | 02:49 |
| Tonio_ | I have to remove this and test ;) | 02:49 |
| danimo | Tonio_: hi. does knetworkmanager support ad-hoc networks in feisty? | 02:50 |
| Riddell | can't say I have any memory of that | 02:50 |
| Tonio_ | damn already removed.... sh*t | 02:50 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: no idea | 02:50 |
| danimo | Tonio_: can you check? I was quite a bit shocked when I saw that nm-applet has it in edgy, but knm doesn't | 02:50 |
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| Tonio_ | ./knetworkmanager/pics/Makefile.in: -rm -f $(DESTDIR)$(knmicondir)/crystalsv g/22x22/actions/nm_adhoc.png | 02:51 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: according to the sources, should be working | 02:51 |
| Tonio_ | ./knetworkmanager/src/knetworkmanager-tray.h: bool _adhoc; | 02:51 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: networkstatus has been removed by upstream and is now a suse patch, that I have to find | 02:55 |
| Tonio_ | but I can't find the src package on their ftp | 02:55 |
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| danimo | Tonio_: can you check wether it has been added recently? | 03:11 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: I'll have a look | 03:12 |
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| Tonio_ | danimo: tarball is the same than on edgy | 03:15 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I've done the patch | 03:16 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: it seems the only missing thing is knm not communicating to the service | 03:16 |
| Tonio_ | appart from that, it should work | 03:16 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: so if it didn't work for you on edgy, it will not on feisty | 03:19 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: now the question is : WHY :) | 03:19 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: once everything works, I'll have to check what are the kmail patches and what do they provide | 03:20 |
| Jucato | Tonio_: who would be the person to poke about System Settings if Sime isn't around? | 03:21 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: ping ? | 03:21 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: Lure | 03:21 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: or myself in that concerns the kcm structure | 03:21 |
| Tonio_ | s/in/if | 03:21 |
| Jucato | Tonio_: more on what's included/excluded from System Settings | 03:22 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: then me :) | 03:22 |
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| Tonio_ | Jucato: okay | 03:22 |
| Jucato | bug 74583 bug 67063 bug 82285 | 03:23 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 74583 in kde-systemsettings "System Settings in Edgy does not show kdmtheme" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74583 | 03:23 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 67063 in kde-systemsettings "No way to alter Launch Feedback via System Settings" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67063 | 03:23 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 82285 in kde-systemsettings "System Settings does not have the Panels settings module" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82285 | 03:23 |
| kwwii | Tonio_: pong | 03:23 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: 74583 concerns universe kcm, I'm working on it | 03:23 |
| Tonio_ | 82285 is in kicker | 03:24 |
| Tonio_ | no reason to add that to systemsettings, just configure via kicker | 03:24 |
| Tonio_ | no idea what 67063 is | 03:24 |
| Jucato | Tonio_: um... | 03:24 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: I saw polyester will be the default ? | 03:25 |
| Jucato | Tonio_: I mentioned something there about why Panels should be back in System Settings | 03:25 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: I like it except one HORRIBLE thing | 03:25 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: JucatoI see.... | 03:26 |
| Tonio_ | we can discuss this eventually and put that on advanced maybe | 03:26 |
| danimo | Tonio_: damn | 03:26 |
| danimo | Tonio_: I just don't dare to test feisty yet on my production system | 03:27 |
| kwwii | Tonio_: what is that? | 03:27 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: on tabs, the texts have a border, that's horrible | 03:27 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: is there a way to remove that ? | 03:27 |
| imbrandon | heya kwwii | 03:28 |
| kwwii | do you mean the box around the text itself? | 03:28 |
| kwwii | howdy imbrandon | 03:28 |
| kwwii | Tonio_: I agree that that is probably the worst part of it | 03:28 |
| kwwii | perhaps we can look into the code and make that box much lighter, or have more padding | 03:28 |
| kwwii | but it is not configurable, that I could see | 03:29 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: wait, I just removed it | 03:29 |
| kwwii | lol | 03:29 |
| Tonio_ | I don't know which option did that but it is removed :) | 03:29 |
| kwwii | it is the keyboard selection | 03:29 |
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| Tonio_ | I simply unchecked everything | 03:29 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: okay as long as that's configurable, I'll do the defaults :) | 03:29 |
| kwwii | so that you know where you are when you tab through the ui | 03:29 |
| kwwii | Tonio_: did you see the other things I changed? | 03:30 |
| kwwii | I posted my rc file a while ago | 03:30 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: nope, I'll have to test :) | 03:31 |
| kwwii | hrm, I'll have to boot my other computer | 03:32 |
| kwwii | give me a minute | 03:32 |
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| bddebian | Heya | 03:41 |
| Jucato | hi bddebian | 03:41 |
| bddebian | Hi Jucato | 03:41 |
| kwwii | Tonio_: forwarded | 03:41 |
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| nixternal | what time is the release? | 03:44 |
| Jucato | oh btw... kwwii I just remembered something. I noticed something in a default Kubuntu Edgy install's color scheme. the "Current Scheme" doesn't match the kubuntuColors.kcsrc in kubuntu-default-settings | 03:44 |
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| nixternal | crimsun: dude!!! where's my car? oh, hey that new Kernel upgrade right, it did something very weird to my system | 03:50 |
| nixternal | the new Kernel has shown me that my mute button, actually is lit up when you hit mute :) never knew that about this laptop, so that fix did more than fix the sound :) | 03:51 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'll need to work on kdepim, the networkstatus debian packaging is not good, misses header files and lots of things | 04:22 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'll had suse changes | 04:23 |
| Tonio_ | I just don't understand the src.rpm structure.... some patches are normal, and some are reverted.... doesn't make sense | 04:24 |
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| Lure | mhb: ping | 04:31 |
| gnomefreak | Tonio_: good luck getting an answer in there :( | 04:32 |
| Tonio_ | gnomefreak: yeah but I can't find the devel channel.... maybe manchicken will know | 04:35 |
| gnomefreak | apokrypho^s might know but hes away atm | 04:35 |
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| Tonio_ | Lure: ping ? | 04:37 |
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| gnomefreak | Tonio_: i just tried #opensuse-devel but it fowards to #suse :( | 04:38 |
| Tonio_ | gnomefreak: yup I did that too :) | 04:38 |
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| Lure | Tonio_: pong | 04:40 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: are you aware how suse packaging work ? | 04:40 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: knetorkmanager package has both normal and reverted patches | 04:40 |
| Lure | Tonio_: just a bit (did not use rpm .spec for 2 years or so) | 04:40 |
| Tonio_ | and the reverted patch includes header files that don't exist anymore in kdepim | 04:40 |
| Lure | Tonio_: maybe it tries both to apply | 04:41 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: doesn't make sense to me | 04:41 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: yeah but in that case that should fail to build | 04:41 |
| Tonio_ | #include "serviceiface_stub.h" | 04:41 |
| Lure | Tonio_: or it might be obsolete patch and packageing does not complain | 04:41 |
| Tonio_ | that doesn't exist anymore | 04:41 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: look at the patch : | 04:41 |
| Lure | Tonio_: are you sure this file does not get created by build | 04:41 |
| Lure | _stub sounds as some ipc stub that may be autogenerated | 04:42 |
| Tonio_ | hum, that's possible indeed | 04:42 |
| Tonio_ | http://paste.tonio.homelinux.org/53 | 04:42 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: as you can see that's perfectly reverted.......... stupid | 04:42 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: if I revert the patch, that applies.......... ;) | 04:42 |
| Lure | Tonio_: yes, looks like reverted | 04:42 |
| Lure | Tonio_: just try to find who creates _stub.h | 04:43 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: in any case I have to patch kdepim first since the debian packaging is incomplete, it misses .h files so knm ftbfs | 04:43 |
| Lure | Tonio_: great work | 04:43 |
| Lure | Tonio_: if you will have some test packages drop them somewhere and I will test at evenings | 04:44 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: I'll put them on my repo | 04:45 |
| Tonio_ | http://tonio.homelinux.org | 04:45 |
| Tonio_ | kdepim currently building | 04:45 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: if patches are tested both ways during the rpm build, I understand why debian people hate rpms :) | 04:47 |
| Tonio_ | sounds like a nightmare to maintain | 04:47 |
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| mhb | hi Lure | 05:16 |
| mhb | and everyone | 05:16 |
| mhb | Lure: need something tested? | 05:16 |
| Jucato | hi mhb!! :D | 05:17 |
| mhb | hi Jucato, how are you? | 05:19 |
| Jucato | mhb: very happy :) | 05:20 |
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| mhb | Jucato: congratulations | 05:21 |
| Jucato | thanks ;) | 05:21 |
| mhb | Riddell: thanks for finalizing and reviewing the MIR for me | 05:22 |
| Riddell | mhb: you need to poke pitti about it now | 05:24 |
| gnomefreak | should gpg keys be RSA or DSA&ElGamal? | 05:24 |
| Zerlinna | Riddell: has Tasma anything to do with our system settings? | 05:25 |
| mhb | Riddell: okay, I'll poke him ... anything special to say to him? | 05:28 |
| Riddell | Zerlinna: never heard of him/her/it | 05:35 |
| Riddell | mhb: "please do this MIR" | 05:35 |
| Zerlinna | Riddell: smb thought that system settings was based on it http://www.pardus.org.tr/eng/projects/masaustu/tasma/index.html | 05:38 |
| Jucato | System Settings was more based on Mac OS X's Preferences iirc | 05:39 |
| Zerlinna | Jucato: thanx | 05:39 |
| Riddell | Zerlinna: nope, although they both just load kcontrol modules so the end result if often the same | 05:40 |
| Zerlinna | Riddell: ah ok | 05:40 |
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| \sh | hmmm...why isn't it possible to maximize a window over two screens? in xinerama mode? | 05:43 |
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| Riddell | Tonio_: can you remember what /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/apps/konqueror/profiles/filemanagement is for again? | 05:51 |
| Riddell | it stops `kfmclient openProfile filemanagement` from showing the home directory | 05:51 |
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| Riddell | hello Bent | 05:55 |
| Bent | Hi Riddell | 05:56 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: originally the file was to define the personnalized .rc file | 05:58 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: that's what I suspected. so we don't need it now? | 05:58 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: but that created the "options missing" bug in the menus | 05:58 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: well as we now are back to the standard konqueror.rc file, I think we can drop this file | 05:58 |
| Tonio_ | same for the webbrowsing one I assume | 05:59 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I've prepared a new kds, do you want me to drop the files in it ? | 05:59 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: new kds is for the new kopete theme | 06:00 |
| Tonio_ | I'm just waiting for the end of the freeze to commit and upload | 06:00 |
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| Tonio_ | so if you have a bugid, I can add that change too | 06:00 |
| Tonio_ | kdepim build is looooooooooooooooooooooong | 06:00 |
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| Riddell | Tonio_: I don't think it has a beastie number | 06:03 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: well I'll clean kds with the next upload | 06:04 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: commited on bzr, I'll upload once the freeze ends and the kopete theming is over | 06:11 |
| Tm_T | Uff, Expo over, finally. | 06:11 |
| Tonio_ | I'll also integrate the new kicker ui | 06:12 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: lots of new converts? | 06:14 |
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| Tm_T | Riddell: Lots of new users and contacts, I hope yes. :) | 06:17 |
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| Tm_T | IF we ever get "Kids Office" in alpha/beta state, we have lots of interest to collaboration in edu side here. | 06:22 |
| Tm_T | Hmm, I might be able even to get sponsors... have to hint this in #koffice -> | 06:23 |
| Tm_T | Hmh, a bit too slow to kick... | 06:28 |
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| nixternal | boo | 06:52 |
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| Enola_Gay | hi all | 07:13 |
| Enola_Gay | I have found a huge bug in kmail. If I set the pop3 account to not remove the mails (Leave the fetched messages on server) but not enable for x days mails should be on the server for ever. But instead of this it removes all until I set days to some value like 365 (the maximum). | 07:15 |
| Riddell | X days? | 07:16 |
| Enola_Gay | Riddell: You could set a value for it between 1 and 365 days. | 07:16 |
| Enola_Gay | A friend of mine has loses all his webmails. | 07:16 |
| Enola_Gay | I am useing Edgy with KDE 3.5.5 | 07:17 |
| Enola_Gay | and he too | 07:17 |
| Riddell | oh I see, I missed that you said that wasn't enabled | 07:17 |
| Enola_Gay | :) | 07:18 |
| Riddell | Enola_Gay: any idea if upstream has this bug? | 07:18 |
| Enola_Gay | Riddell: If the bug is already listed or if KDE of others distris has this bug? | 07:18 |
| Riddell | Enola_Gay: yes, if KDE PIM dudes know about it | 07:19 |
| Enola_Gay | Should I ask on #kde or search on bugs.kde.org? | 07:19 |
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| Riddell | Enola_Gay: #kontact | 07:20 |
| Enola_Gay | thx | 07:21 |
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| _StefanS_ | hi | 07:33 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: saw you comment on the bug #69118, have you uploaded an updated knetworkmanager, or should I insert the DCOP entry myself? | 07:34 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 69118 in kdenetwork "knetworkmanager freezes if kwallet doesn't open immediately" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69118 | 07:34 |
| _StefanS_ | btw, is k3b v1.0 considerd for inclusion in feisty ? | 07:35 |
| Enola_Gay | _StefanS_: Are the cd verification bugs fixed in K3B 1.0? | 07:37 |
| Enola_Gay | Riddell: I have asked in #kontact and made a bug report http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141019. Should I make a bug report in launchpad too? | 07:38 |
| Ubugtu | KDE bug 141019 in general "leave fetched messages on the server doesn't work on some circumstances" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 07:38 |
| _StefanS_ | Enola_Gay: oh I dont know | 07:38 |
| _StefanS_ | Enola_Gay: if its bugged as hell (I've used rc3, which had some bugs), then its probably a bad thing | 07:39 |
| Enola_Gay | _StefanS_: Since edgy it couldn't mount the data cds or something like that so it tells me always that it couldn't find files to check. | 07:39 |
| Enola_Gay | _StefanS_: I have never used 1.0 only the older ones. | 07:39 |
| Enola_Gay | _StefanS_: Does 1.0 always open cd tray after burning? | 07:39 |
| _StefanS_ | Enola_Gay: nope dont think so actually | 07:39 |
| _StefanS_ | Enola_Gay: I seem to remember it didn't | 07:40 |
| Riddell | Enola_Gay: you can do, if it's linked to the upstream bug | 07:40 |
| Riddell | _StefanS_: if it gets released in time | 07:40 |
| _StefanS_ | Enola_Gay: I will test the latest to see how it behaves. | 07:41 |
| Enola_Gay | _StefanS_: You could disable it in k3b but this only happens on last action so if you burn a cd rw and check it afterwards tray is opened at least two times which is very annoying on laptops which can't close tray on their own. | 07:41 |
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| Enola_Gay | Riddell: Ok. | 07:41 |
| _StefanS_ | Enola_Gay: I see, I haven't tried that | 07:41 |
| _StefanS_ | Enola_Gay: don't use either cdrw or verify :) | 07:41 |
| _StefanS_ | Enola_Gay: seems like I'm not scared of losing my data, and have enough cd-r to spend :D | 07:42 |
| Enola_Gay | :) | 07:42 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: Is Tonio around ? | 07:42 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: He asked me to test a fix for knetworkmanager | 07:43 |
| _StefanS_ | Enola_Gay: I will test the latest rc5 anyways, maybe everything is fine | 07:44 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: not sure if I should wait for a package via apt/updates, or fix manually | 07:44 |
| _StefanS_ | I be off for a while to watch the latest prison break :) | 07:45 |
| _StefanS_ | cu | 07:45 |
| _StefanS_ | all | 07:46 |
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| Lure | mhb: ping? | 08:09 |
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| Enola_Gay | cu all | 08:18 |
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| Lure | Riddell, Tonio_: how can we check if k-d-s sru is in -proposed (edgy-changes says it was released) | 08:32 |
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| mhb | Lure: again? .o) | 08:40 |
| mhb | Lure: you need the testing, right? | 08:41 |
| Lure | mhb: yes, was searching for you re sru testing | 08:41 |
| mhb | Lure: edgy? | 08:41 |
| Lure | mhb: ScottK did some, but only one was released | 08:41 |
| Lure | mhb: edgy yes: bug 75017 & bug 73617 | 08:41 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 75017 in kubuntu-default-settings "SRU: remove /.hidden file " [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/75017 | 08:41 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 73617 in digikam "SRU proposal" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73617 | 08:41 |
| Lure | digikam is in edgy-proposed, k-d-s is still waiting for archive-admin to publish it | 08:42 |
| mhb | Lure: non-published package for k-d-s available? | 08:42 |
| Lure | not really, we should wait for pitti (or any other archive-admin) to publish it | 08:43 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: add the edgy-proposed repo and apt-cache policy maybe ? | 08:43 |
| Lure | Tonio_: I do not have edgy at hand, but ScottK did not get it in -proposed (he got digikam) | 08:44 |
| ScottK | It wasn't there. | 08:44 |
| Lure | Tonio_: and no note from pitti about upload as for digikam | 08:44 |
| ScottK | Also not statused as fix committed. | 08:45 |
| Lure | exactly - still 'In Progress' | 08:45 |
| Tonio_ | yup I'm waiting to be able to upload to released | 08:49 |
| Tonio_ | I'm having hard time packaging kdepim.... but if it works, that'll be great | 08:49 |
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| danimo | Tonio_: ping? | 09:02 |
| danimo | heya folks | 09:04 |
| danimo | imbrandon: ping? | 09:05 |
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| DaSkreech | Was there to be a Feisty CD released today? | 09:30 |
| crimsun | late this week, likely next week | 09:30 |
| danimo | Tonio_: ping? | 09:31 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: yeah ? | 09:32 |
| Tm_T | How I did get list of freenode staff online? | 09:32 |
| danimo | Tonio_: hi | 09:32 |
| danimo | Tonio_: I just committed the .desktop fixes in knetworkmanager to subversion | 09:32 |
| danimo | Tonio_: working on some other patches now | 09:32 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: yes I have a package here including the fixx | 09:33 |
| Tonio_ | that's the X-DCOP thing right ? | 09:33 |
| danimo | Tonio_: no, just spelling | 09:33 |
| danimo | Tonio_: but I can't convince configure to find dbus/connection.h | 09:33 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: ah this one :) | 09:33 |
| danimo | Tonio_: and I'm going mad over it | 09:33 |
| DaSkreech | crimsun: then basically a two week relelase timeframe till Feisty ships? | 09:33 |
| danimo | Tonio_: I talked to thoening and I am trying on ad-hoc network support now | 09:33 |
| Tonio_ | okay great | 09:34 |
| crimsun | DaSkreech: ...in February? 7.04 doesn't release until late April. | 09:34 |
| crimsun | Tm_T: /stats p | 09:34 |
| danimo | Tonio_: but I installed the libdbus-qt-dev package and still no go | 09:34 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: if you see something going wrong in my package, please feedback :) | 09:34 |
| Tm_T | crimsun: Thanks, found it. | 09:34 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: hum you have problems building the sources ? | 09:34 |
| DaSkreech | crimsun: Sorry I meant new testing Cd every two weeks | 09:34 |
| danimo | yes | 09:34 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: apt-get build-dep knetwormanager | 09:34 |
| Lure | danimo: what is the problem with dbus? | 09:35 |
| Tonio_ | that should do the trick | 09:35 |
| DaSkreech | That's what the schedule seems to indicate | 09:35 |
| danimo | Tonio_: good point | 09:35 |
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| crimsun | DaSkreech: I don't know if the schedule is that precise. As you can tell, Herd* have been running a bit later than indicated | 09:35 |
| danimo | Tonio_: interesting, depends on libdbus-glib-1-dev | 09:35 |
| danimo | Lure: lets see | 09:35 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: yes it does | 09:35 |
| Lure | danimo: there is only glib based dbus | 09:35 |
| Lure | qt4 brings also qt mainloop support | 09:36 |
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| danimo | Tonio_: how so? | 09:36 |
| DaSkreech | crimsun: Yeah I noticed :) but that's roughly when you want to have a new build? | 09:36 |
| danimo | Lure: well, doesn't help me for knetworkmanager | 09:36 |
| danimo | Lure: I know the qt4 dbus bindings | 09:36 |
| Lure | danimo: what do you want to do? | 09:36 |
| danimo | build knm | 09:36 |
| Lure | then apt-get build-dep should be enough | 09:36 |
| danimo | checking dbus/connection.h usability... no | 09:36 |
| danimo | checking dbus/connection.h presence... no | 09:36 |
| danimo | checking for dbus/connection.h... no | 09:36 |
| danimo | configure: WARNING: You need D-Bus/Qt3 bindings | 09:36 |
| danimo | yeah, should | 09:37 |
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| Lure | danimo: it might be that recent dbus updates have broken build and we did not notice as knm was built before... | 09:37 |
| Lure | very strange though | 09:38 |
| danimo | Lure: I am still on edgy | 09:38 |
| danimo | Lure: so that's faily unlikely | 09:38 |
| Lure | danimo: ok | 09:39 |
| danimo | it must be something fairly stupid | 09:39 |
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| Lure | danimo: try installing libdbus-qt-1-dev | 09:40 |
| danimo | Lure: been there, done that | 09:40 |
| danimo | if only I wasn't so clueless about autoconf | 09:40 |
| Lure | danimo: dpkg -S dbus/connection.h | 09:41 |
| danimo | libdbus-qt-1-dev: /usr/include/dbus-1.0/dbus/connection.h | 09:41 |
| danimo | it's there, it's just not being detected | 09:41 |
| danimo | Lure: really weired | 09:41 |
| Lure | danimo: which version of automake/autoconf do you have? | 09:43 |
| danimo | autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.60 | 09:43 |
| danimo | Lure: do you suggest I need a more recent one? | 09:46 |
| Lure | danimo: no, it should be fine | 09:47 |
| danimo | Lure: I don't get it then, really | 09:47 |
| Lure | danimo: me neither | 09:47 |
| Lure | :-( | 09:47 |
| Lure | danimo: what does PACKAGE_CFLAGS line say - is the include path correct for dbus? | 09:48 |
| danimo | Lure: where should that be? | 09:50 |
| Lure | it is reported by ./configure couple of lines before dbus/connection.h check | 09:50 |
| === danimo checks | ||
| danimo | Lure: can't see such a line | 09:53 |
| Lure | checking PACKAGE_CFLAGS... -DDBUS_API_SUBJECT_TO_CHANGE -I/usr/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/lib/dbus-1.0/include -I/usr/include/hal -I/usr/include/NetworkManager -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include | 09:54 |
| Lure | danimo: ^^^ this is feisty | 09:54 |
| danimo | Lure: nope | 09:55 |
| Lure | danimo: dbus < 1.0 does not work if you are missing -DDBUS_API_SUBJECT_TO_CHANGE | 09:55 |
| danimo | Lure: edgy comes with 1.0 afaik | 09:55 |
| Lure | danimo: yes, you are right - it landed just in time for release.... | 09:56 |
| === Lure is too long on feisty ;-) | ||
| DaSkreech | Well Grampaing Gorilla is soon upon us :) | 09:59 |
| ScottK | Lure: I bet you could get danimo to test the digikam SRU.... | 09:59 |
| Lure | ScottK: ;-) | 10:00 |
| DaSkreech | Hmm wonder what the diff between the old Ubuntu Book and the new one is | 10:02 |
| danimo | Lure: config.log has PACKAGE_CFLAGS='' | 10:30 |
| danimo | Lure: I am lacking all the .pc files | 10:32 |
| danimo | Lure: which ones do you have? | 10:32 |
| danimo | Lure: hmm, nevermind | 10:36 |
| danimo | Lure: found it! :) | 10:39 |
| === danimo dances | ||
| danimo | Lure: libnl-dev is missing from the build dependencies of knetworkmanager | 10:40 |
| danimo | and yay, netlink causes include trouble | 10:49 |
| Riddell | Lure: add it to sources.list and find out :) | 10:49 |
| danimo | /usr/include/netlink/rtnetlink-kernel.h:498: error: __u64 does not name a type | 10:50 |
| danimo | wow, great | 10:50 |
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| ScottK | A question related to Lure's question about finding out what's in -proposed.... When I enabled proposed to test the digikam SRU, there were about a dozen updates there. Is there a list I can look at to see which bugs they relate to or do I just have to hunt through launchpad package by package? | 10:52 |
| danimo | ScottK: SRU? | 10:53 |
| ScottK | Stable Release Update | 10:53 |
| danimo | ScottK: ah | 10:53 |
| danimo | ScottK: such exists? | 10:54 |
| Lure | danimo: nice catch - I will talk to Tonio_ to add build-dep with next upload | 10:54 |
| danimo | ScottK: I thought it was frowened upon | 10:54 |
| ScottK | Yes. | 10:54 |
| ScottK | Only for important stuff. | 10:54 |
| danimo | Lure: well, maybe it has been added as a new dependency lately | 10:54 |
| Lure | Riddell: ? talking about sru? | 10:54 |
| danimo | Lure: it seems to cause compilation problems, too | 10:54 |
| Lure | Riddell: it seems it's waiting for pitti (archive-admin) to accept it into proposed | 10:55 |
| ScottK | danimo: See bug 73617 for an example. | 10:55 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 73617 in digikam "SRU proposal" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73617 | 10:55 |
| ScottK | It needs a certain number of people to test and verify it works before it can be released. | 10:55 |
| danimo | ScottK: ah, ok | 10:56 |
| Lure | ScottK: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=verification-needed | 10:57 |
| ScottK | Lure: Thanks. | 10:57 |
| Lure | ScottK: but it does not look like all are there | 10:57 |
| ScottK | Agree. | 10:57 |
| danimo | Lure: nevermind, the dep is new in svn | 10:58 |
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| ScottK | Lure: It looks like bug 73617 is tagged correctly. I wonder why it doesn't appear? | 11:00 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 73617 in digikam "SRU proposal" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73617 | 11:00 |
| Lure | ScottK: report bug in launchpad ;-) | 11:01 |
| === ScottK will do... | ||
| Lure | ScottK: [23:00] <pitti> Lure: I'll do some archive admin tomorrow morning | 11:01 |
| ScottK | OK. | 11:01 |
| Lure | ScottK: this means that k-d-s will probably get in tommorow | 11:01 |
| ScottK | OK. | 11:01 |
| ScottK | I'll be out in the AM, but may be able to test in the afternoon. | 11:02 |
| ScottK | Bug me on kubuntu-testers if I don't. | 11:02 |
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| Riddell | amarok 1.4.5 ready to package | 11:15 |
| === Riddell e-mails hobbsee and imbrandon | ||
| crimsun | imbrandon agreed to pick up 1.4.5 from hobbsee (time constraints?) | 11:16 |
| Riddell | I think it was the other way around | 11:18 |
| ScottK | Lure: The LP bug is reported: Bug #82745 - Feel free to confirm it.... | 11:23 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 82745 in launchpad "Not all tagged bugs show up in when querying by tag" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82745 | 11:23 |
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