[12:24] Riddell: Jucato this would be political from the ubuntuforums side, wouldnt it? [12:24] it would [12:25] someone just cooked something nasty in this cafeteria [12:25] Jucato: i keep forgetting how touchy ryan is :( [12:27] Tonio_: i added the bug which has the problems without the media patches to the agenda. the new bugs created by them are a being bit harder to find though [12:30] yuriy: I have the complete list here too [12:30] oh alright [12:32] oops forgot to add sig when i did that [12:33] Sime: if around - we are discussing media patches in #ubuntu-meeting === gnomefreak wants something added from opensuse but i dont think there is time (atleast for me to build it the ubuntu way) :( [12:43] and i only have kde 3.5.5 in suse 10.2 :( [12:43] gnomefreak: which? [12:43] the kickoff menu i have a build but i didnt build it :( [12:44] kickoff... [12:44] i may hack it though to see what can be done to make it look a bit nicer and have a feature i want [12:44] wasn't Tonio interested in that as well? [12:44] Jucato: its a sweet menu [12:44] sweet is subjective :P [12:44] Jucato: i will have it posted in a day or so [12:44] for edgy and feisty [12:45] gnomefreak: ahh [12:45] gnomefreak: does your build include the mini cli when kickoff is in K Menu style? [12:45] cli? [12:45] er.. the search box [12:45] Jucato: it has a search function but it doesnt have a cli that i remember [12:45] lol [12:45] yes [12:45] oh kool [12:46] that search box is missing from the kubuntu kickoff build that's on kde-apps [12:46] opensuse's build allows you to reboot to [12:46] um... KDE already allows that [12:46] Jucato: the one from there is no longer there [12:46] Login Manager -> Shoutdown [12:46] Jucato: no it doesnt [12:47] than you have to choose OS from grub [12:47] select GRUB from the list [12:47] this allows you to skip grub [12:47] ah [12:47] gnomefreak: it does - just need to enable the option in Login manager [12:48] ah ok === Jucato whistles innocently :) [12:48] never saw that :) wonder if it will add it to kickoff. brb gonna go to kde and see if i cant hack it a bit === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde_ [n=chrman@195.71.21.177] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:53] wb gnomefreak [12:53] ty === neversfelde_ is now known as neversfelde [12:56] kde control center has really lost alot it seems there is only 2 things listed there now [12:56] feisty, right? [12:56] yeah 3.5.6 [12:56] :P [01:04] !schedule [01:04] Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Feisty Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule [01:04] Feb 15, Feature Freeze... :( [01:04] https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members <-- I join this, right? [01:04] Hobbsee: ^^ [01:05] Jucato: yeah === neoncode [n=neoncode@84.13.66.249] has joined #kubuntu-devel === NeoChaosX [n=nael@66-240-27-50.isp.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:08] Hobbsee: I heard that you were working kmail encryption stuff. I'm interested in getting S/MIIME by default in Feisty. [01:08] I already joined that. Do I wait for someone to improve it? [01:09] yep [01:09] manchicken: ^ [01:09] ScottK: same here. oh drat, i had changes that i never got uploaded. === ScottK is very interested in that and would love to help out. [01:10] I did join kubuntu-members [01:10] manchicken: hrm? s/improve/approve [01:10] Yeah [01:10] ScottK: okay, will poke you after the meeting about it :) [01:10] My mistake. [01:10] manchicken: :) [01:10] lol === manchicken just whipped out the hacker-pscorr === Jucato can't believe he missed that [01:10] OK. I'll be AFK for the next few hours. [01:14] Make that about an hour and then I'll be back. [01:15] Hobbsee: So was that a "yes" that someone has to approve me? [01:16] manchicken: Riddel has to approve us [01:16] manchicken: correct [01:16] Ahhhh. Okay === Hobbsee doesnt have admin to it (yet?) [01:18] @schedule [01:18] bah nvm lol === ubijtsa [n=ubijtsa@karlsson.force9.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ash211 [n=andrew@user-1121mcd.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:49] Riddell: you want to talk now or later? [01:49] Tonio_: the arrow for the system tray is too big, imho === allee needs sleep. Nite [01:49] Hobbsee: oh, the mailing list [01:49] g'night allee [01:50] Hobbsee: well your post was only blocked because it had too many To:'s on it [01:50] Riddell: yeah, i realise that. [01:50] Hobbsee: so it's easy to avoid in future [01:50] Riddell: is there anyone else who gets moderated, etc? [01:50] Hobbsee: if you're an admin you'll get lots of spam notices [01:50] that's the only thing that's moderated [01:51] since non-spam non-subscribers just get rejected [01:51] Riddell: ahh right. [01:51] so that's how you're doing it [01:51] yep [01:51] so you get lots of spam moderation requests and no useful ones (except yours which was the first in about 6 months) [01:51] Jucato: yes it is too big, but that can be changed I assume [01:51] Riddell: other question was on the LP kubuntu-members team - there are a few who clearly need declining [01:51] heh [01:51] and the two that still need acking, unless youv'e done them [01:52] Riddell: I'll try to get the networkstatus patches in for friday, that would be nice [01:52] Hobbsee: since you e-mailed everyone I think I'll decline them all now with a polite message [01:52] Riddell: okay [01:52] Tonio_: hopefully, but if it's anything like the panel-hiding buttons on kicker itself... then might not be possible :( [01:53] Jucato: indeed === Hobbsee --> afk [01:53] ash211: you applied for kubuntu-members? [01:53] oh yes, I did [01:53] yeah, he couldnt make it, i dont think [01:53] just got back from a piano lesson [01:53] is it too late? [01:53] yeah [01:54] there's always next time === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:55] indeed :) [01:55] wow piano lessons... === Jucato remembers his frustrated violin plans... [01:56] been taking for 9 years [01:56] kool === Hobbsee plays flute === Hobbsee --> really afk [01:56] kooler :) [01:56] I like the flute === n8k99_ plays cornet [01:57] yay!! I'm approved. thanks! thank you Riddell [01:57] wow, I'd never heard of a cornet before [01:57] good thing wikipedia knows what it is! [01:57] Sweet. === manchicken is a kubuntuer === ajmitch is not so fortunate === yuriy is curious about this ubucon thing [02:00] manchicken: are you printing out calling cards? heheh :) [02:00] heh [02:00] As soon as I get that super-cool @kubuntu.org email. [02:00] ajmitch: which doesn't mean we don't want you! [02:00] heh [02:00] manchicken: should happen automatically over the next 24 hours [02:00] (I think) [02:00] ooh yeah.. forgot about that :) [02:01] yuriy where are you located? [02:01] n8k99_: boston area [02:01] Riddell: will it be something like launchpad_name@kubuntu.org? [02:01] Groovy. [02:01] Jucato: yes [02:01] nice :) [02:01] wow, lots of people wanting in kubuntu-team [02:01] manchicken@kubuntu.org :) [02:01] w00t [02:01] yuriy did you see my flyer for Ubucon? or the wiki page for it? [02:02] Now to get back to business... [02:02] kubuntu-team is for the developers, right? [02:02] Ack, I've got a church meeting shortly, too. [02:02] n8k99_: i just saw the flyer [02:02] manchicken: heh luckily my church job only happens mostly on weekends :) [02:02] n8k99_: i'm wondering whether to go. though it's on a weekday, but the day before break [02:02] heh [02:03] yuriy it looks like tons of fun, i live in Brooklyn but a friend of mine is getting married in Virginia that day!! [02:03] Jucato: Lucky you ^_^ [02:04] i'm going to post about it in the nu loco team forum [02:04] ah! brilliant [02:05] n8k99_: are you in it btw? [02:06] yuriy in what? [02:06] n8k99_: nu (northeastern us) ubuntu team === freeflying [i=flyingfr@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:09] i think i tried to join that- [02:09] maybe not [02:12] Jucato: kubuntu-team is all the kubuntu people - just is a bug contact (that ML) [02:12] aaaah [02:16] i uploaded the kickoff menu :) [02:17] :) [02:17] gnomefreak: to where? [02:17] ah hold on [02:18] anyone know if you can switch to fullscreen in Xephyr? [02:18] gnomefreak: ?! [02:19] the kickoff menu for kde i have one (unofficially built) a few people wanted to try it [02:20] Hobbsee: http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/ [02:20] yuriy are you GAmeMank? [02:21] n8k99_: yeah [02:21] gnomefreak: ahhh [02:23] yuriy is there a northeeast loco wiki page? or something?/ [02:24] n8k99_: there's a wiki page but i think it's incomplete. and there's a webpage. it's all in one of the sticky threads in the forum, i g2g [02:24] hw :( [02:32] yuriy: looks like i already joined that launchpad team, haha === jpetso [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso is now known as jpetso_away === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:02] Heya [03:03] hi bddebian [03:03] Heya Jucato [03:08] Hobbsee: I'm basically back at the keyboard if you want to discuss Kmail and S/MIME... [03:08] ScottK: woot. let me grab lunch... [03:09] once it heats === ScottK will go grab a Scotch. [03:11] lunch.... [03:12] right === ScottK is back too. [03:14] ScottK: basically, i want to know: 1) does it work in current format? [03:14] 2) does it work in current format + gpgsm [03:14] where work means work with encrypted mails, signed mails, all out of the box [03:14] So far I know you need to add at least gpgsm and gpg-agent with their dependencies. [03:15] gpg-agent as well? [03:15] Yes. [03:15] Kmail whines steadily if it's not there. [03:15] what happens if you have pinetry-qt in there instead? [03:15] I'm not sure yet that Kleopatra is needed. [03:15] Dunno. Didn't try that. [03:16] do you want to try to? (without gpg-agent being installed) [03:16] The complaint was about no agent, but I can try that. === ScottK needs to get a complete working config first and then see what can be taken away from it. [03:17] Hobbsee: did someone propose me for membership, or did I apply many many moons ago? [03:17] well, yeah. but i want a complete config working with what's in main, then seeing what of universe need to be added === claydoh is curious [03:17] I had Kmail + S/MIME working with opensuse 10.1 and KDE 3.5.1. I've got verification working on Dapper, but have never been able to get signing working. [03:18] claydoh: you were on the proposed kubuntu-members list. [03:18] on launchpad [03:18] ScottK: right. [03:18] I just wonder how i got there [03:18] claydoh: you applied ages ago maybe? not sure [03:18] maybe, I could have but that was long long ago [03:19] quite likely [03:19] I don't think i qualify anyway, really [03:19] I think what I need to do is purge the configs I copied over from opensuse and start from scratch. [03:19] yet that is === ScottK will try it without kleopatra first. [03:20] okay [03:20] yes [03:20] that would greatly help === Hobbsee cant test, as she uses imap mail [03:20] S/MIME should work fine with imap??? [03:21] kmail has a serious bug about selecting imap messages - mail tends to crash every min or so that you're selecting things, or deleting them, etc [03:21] ok. [03:21] makes it rather unusable === ScottK remembers why he doesn't use Kmail with IMAP... [03:21] hehe [03:21] thunderbird is better [03:21] Yep. Better for S/MIME too. [03:22] i dont know...i had to fight with thunderbird to get it to encrypt my mail... [03:22] claydoh: well, we'll make sure you will qualify in a few months' time : [03:22] :) [03:22] heh [03:23] I love it when someone has secret plas for me I like surprises [03:23] OK, so you fought T-bird and got it to work.... If you never got Kmail to work, that's better... [03:23] claydoh: I have plans for KFN... unfortunately, hindered on both sides of the fence :( [03:23] heh [03:23] claydoh: You might want to watch out for Hobbsee's secret plans. THey usually involved weapons of some sort :-) [03:23] I understand a little === Hobbsee attacks bddebian with the secret weapon [03:24] :) [03:24] :P [03:24] /quit crazy weapons [03:24] crimsun: heh, you wish === Jucato thinks it's time to take out and to reveal the the world his long pointy spear of devastation :) [03:24] crimsun: time to run away? [03:24] Jucato: you wish [03:25] Hobbsee: wishing is free, isn't it? :) [03:25] true [03:27] Jucato that is nothing compared to the stick Hobbsee carries [03:28] heh :) [03:28] of course. her's has been sharpened and refined almost to a perfection === n8k99_ wonders why he is so scared of Hobbsee and her PointyStick [03:28] well.. almost :) === yuriy [n=yuriy@129.64.200.61] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:29] heh === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:34] n8k99_: smart move :) :P === n8k99_ not as dumb as he looks [03:36] you dont look dumb at all :) === Hobbsee really isnt scary, unless you do idiotic things === Jucato doesn't know what n8k99_ looks like at al [03:36] all* [03:37] Hobbsee actually (ironically) looks nice and sweet :P [03:37] heh [03:37] just a silly saying that is handed down from my father [03:38] yay! Kubuntu (edgy) installed... hm.. now what... [03:38] Jucato: upgrade to feisty ;-) [03:38] not on this machine :P [03:39] oh man I love this... my KAFS and Kubuntu side by side... so far so good :) [03:39] Hobbsee: It occurs to me that if you want a pop mailbox to test with, I can give you one. [03:40] Jucato: you've had the honour of meeting Hobbsee ? === Hobbsee --> work [03:40] ajmitch: no not yet, just a pic I stole from her :) [03:40] ScottK: i'll be OK. [03:40] OK [03:40] bye all! [03:40] bye Hobbsee! [03:49] anyone on feisty 3.5.6 aptdept showing upgrades? [03:49] it says new version of kubuntu [03:50] and than click upgrade and it goes away (ill end up checking /var/crash but i dont think its crashing [03:50] There's a bug on that. [03:51] it's a bug in Adept afaik (mentioned in the Herd 2 page) [03:51] Bug 82034 [03:51] Malone bug 82034 in adept "Adept proposes upgrade of Kubuntu and then exits (dup-of: 80618)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82034 [03:51] Malone bug 80618 in adept "adept-installer crashes when clicking next on 'there seems to be an update' dialog" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80618 [03:51] ah [03:51] ty [03:55] Is Akgregator starting on system start automatically a bug or a feature? [03:56] depends if it was left open before logging out? [03:56] I've never run it before on this machine. [03:56] i did some apport updates and the adept-notifier went away so there were updates just it was listed wrong i guess [03:56] hm. if it's on feisty, I have no clue... [03:56] ScottK: it doesnt start here on its own [03:57] hmmm [03:57] It didn't for me until today. [03:57] There was a new kde pim today. === ScottK is suspicious [03:57] that would do it but i dont remember seeing that upddate [03:58] ha i dont have kdepim installed [03:58] That'll do it. [03:58] so it would have to be with that === ScottK doesn't see a button to make it not do that. === ScottK goes to file a bug. === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak found the kickoff i have been looking for with all the right features. finally :) still no source without building kde [04:17] hmm... meeting still going? [04:17] Bug #82594 [04:17] Malone bug 82594 in kdepim "Akregrator starts automatically in Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82594 === hunger_t [n=tobias@p54A71BA5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-56-210.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger_t [n=tobias@p54A70879.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:51] oi! [05:53] hello nixternal [05:54] hiya ajmitch === RadiantFire [n=ryan@upstream/dev/RadiantFire] has joined #kubuntu-devel === fdoving [n=frode@edge.lnix.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === fdoving [n=frode@edge.lnix.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Huahua_ [n=hua@122.0.230.7] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:45] how come restricted-modules are installed by default now? have they always been and I just never caught it? [06:47] I think they always were, but am not sure. [06:48] hrmm, I am not a fan of that [06:51] There's been a lot of press about it. [06:52] I can see both sides of the issue. [06:54] Well, I think it should be left out by default. If you are going to use NVidia or ATI drivers, then install it. But I don't believe it is needed for things like NDISWrapper or bcm43xx-fwcutter iirc. [06:57] There's a balance between just working and being 'Free'. [06:58] WIreless is pure pain lots of the time and even though it's because of proprietary drivers, that's not who gets blamed. [06:58] It would be interesting to see if Ubuntu has enough market share now to push anyone into opening up their drivers... [06:59] why would they bother if ubuntu uses the non free stuff [07:00] Dunno. Just ran across this on the topic http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20070131081243482 [07:01] Probably because users bitch the non-free stuff doesn't work very well (witness no Acrobat in Feisty). [07:01] i worry that using by default nonfree stuff will actually put back progres [07:01] seaLne: +1 [07:01] I understand and I don't know that you're wrong, but there's always been some non-free stuff installed by default. [07:02] I don't see why restricted needs to be installed. As a matter of fact, I use NDISWrapper and I do not have the restricted modules installed [07:02] what non-free stuff has been installed by default? [07:02] maybe I am missing something === ScottK thinks there was display stuff, but is working from an admittedly poor memory on the topic. [07:03] IIRC the policy has been to install it if it was needed to make the system work. [07:04] ScottK: I think adding it as a dependency to say ATI (fglrx) and the NVidia (nvidia) drivers and what not is fine, but if there is nothing non-free being installed, then it isn't needed [07:04] That makes sense. [07:05] nvidia-glx does depend on the restricted-modules already it seems [07:05] i'd say the opposite that not having free graphics is bad, its one of the most basic pieces of hardware [07:05] There's always this: http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20061102083226821 [07:06] seaLne: The question is though, what do you tell a user with PC with a graphics card with no free driver? [07:06] ScottK: and now that they have a KDE release, I am using it :) [07:06] on my other system, I could never get rid of Kubuntu [07:06] nixternal: ah didn't know that [07:06] ya seaLne, it is pretty solid [07:06] Hmmm [07:06] how do they differ? [07:07] gNewSense and Kubuntu? [07:07] or the gNewSense KDE and the Kubuntu KDE? [07:07] yeah apart from the obvious nonfree stuff [07:07] artwork really [07:07] otherwise it is pretty much the same. I haven't spent much time digging into it just yet [07:09] so far my 2 favorite distros with a KDE implementation have to be Kubuntu and Slackware [07:09] I used to like SuSE, but they have modeled their KDE to mimic Windows to much [07:10] granted the Slackware KDE is vanilla === ScottK got tired of being a SLES beta tester with opensuse. That's how I got to Kubuntu. [07:11] anybody have anything that needs to be added to the Herd 3 release notes btw? [07:11] Is the dbud/power manager memory leak mentioned? [07:11] dbud/dbus === rraphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:11] Bug 82313 [07:11] Malone bug 82313 in dbus-python "Guidance-power manager memory growth in Feisty" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82313 [07:11] granted, I think for a switcher, OpenSUSE 10.2 is possibly a tad bit easier than Kubuntu int he respect of it looking similar or having some similar functionality to that of Windows [07:12] I think that's work a mention. [07:12] now when it comes down to package management with OpenSUSE and a new user, OUCH! [07:12] work/worth [07:12] Well, if it is fixed :) [07:12] That will go in the "We know it's broke" section in the feedback area [07:13] No it's not. I was thinking about mentioning it in the open issues. [07:13] Yeah. That section. [07:13] hehe, I think someone may have posted already [07:13] OK. [07:13] actually, no they haven't [07:13] That's the one new problem that's really kicked my behind lately. [07:13] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyFawn/Herd3/Kubuntu/Feedback === neversfelde [n=chrman@195.71.21.177] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:13] if you want to hook it up :) [07:14] brb, gotta doctor up some screenshots of KDevelop for the release notes === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-054-177.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:19] I'll put it in there... === Jucato [n=jucato@210.213.223.158] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:27] So that got me started on my wiki page so there'd be something to link to... === goldenear [n=goldenea@2001:6f8:392:1:213:2ff:fe4a:53a7] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:34] manchicken: have you asked for a cloak already? === Jiraiya [n=fujin1@89.2.53.36] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:35] Salut [07:35] Il sert a quoi ce salon ? === chavo [n=chavo@69-167-76-73.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:55] Yo chavo === MrWGW- [n=nondiscl@cpe-75-85-97-183.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:55] hi chavo [07:55] hi === Jucato wonders whether Naruto is here, if Jiraiya is here... [07:56] nixternal: I imagine you saw my input for the Herd 3 release notes. === ScottK is off to bed. [07:56] Jucato, if I might dare to ask you an off topic question, how do you do that in this IRC channel? [07:56] ca parle anglais ici :/ [07:56] where you make it say that you are doing "X" [07:56] MrWGW-: /me [07:56] thanks a lot [07:56] !fr [07:56] Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais. === MrWGW- [07:56] was that correct? [07:56] ou je sais :) [07:57] @plus [07:57] MrWGW-: without the < > :) [07:57] ahh [07:57] haha [07:57] Bye [07:57] bye [07:57] And you have to remember to write in the third person. === Jiraiya [n=fujin1@89.2.53.36] has left #kubuntu-devel ["bye] === ScottK still has trouble with that. === MrWGW- wonders if Kwwii is up yet === Jucato doesn't think I have to write in the 3rd person lol [07:57] see? it looks strange :) === MrWGW- will watch South Park, otherwise === firephoto [n=tom@pool-71-115-214-25.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:58] ROFL [07:58] or perhaps === MrWGW- rolls on the floor, laughing [07:59] for extreme pretense, one could theoretically chat like that exclusively === freet15 [n=freet15@61.149.3.59] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freet15_ [n=freet15@61.149.0.133] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying_ [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@210.213.223.158] has joined #kubuntu-devel === oslo [n=Lancelot@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger_t [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger_t is now known as hunger === yuriy [n=yuriy@dhcp-129-64-153-72.dorm.brandeis.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:44] hahahahaha [09:44] I have become the most pretentious chatter on Freenode! 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[12:21] Does that mean I can start bughunting while using Feisty for my daily work?! === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === praetor [n=praetor@124-168-94-12.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RadiantFire [n=ryan@upstream/dev/RadiantFire] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:24] I have not seen updates in a while... Is there some freeze in effect or is my mirror lagging behind developments? [01:25] herd 3 freeze [01:25] How booooring;-) === OdyX [n=Didier@tsf-wpa-2-055.epfl.ch] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:25] and if people want to start testing alternate CDs that would be very welcome [01:27] Hobbsee: No luck so far with Kmail and S/MIME. Signing fails with an incredibly helpful error message - "General error". I haven't had much time to research it yet, but I haven't given up. [01:27] ScottK: fun. === serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:27] ScottK: which deps was that with? [01:28] I needed gpgsm and gnupg-agent to get that far. [01:28] I tried pinetry-qt and no agent, but Kmail cried. [01:28] ScottK: Have you compiled kmail from kde svn by chance? [01:28] No [01:29] Using the standard Kubuntu Kmail for Feisty. [01:29] Ah ok. I am getting a cmake error about the CMakeLists file strangely [01:29] Riddell: I'm starting the networkstatus thing :) [01:29] looks likea bit complicated hehe :) [01:29] ScottK: ahh [01:30] ScottK: right, so gnupg-agent appears to be a must. [01:30] With gpgsm and gnupg-agent installed it at least THINKs it can do it and the error is out of one of the crypto bit. [01:30] Yes. [01:30] heh [01:30] what happens with pinetry in there? [01:30] as well as gpgsm and gnupg-agent [01:30] (gpgsm is fine, i just forgot to add it as a build dep last time) [01:30] that's in main already, so that's easy to add [01:31] Same as without. Kmail complains about no agent as soon as you start to edit the Identity. [01:31]