[12:15] <stdin> sorush20: you can remove it by editing the /boot/grub/menu.lst file and remove "spalsh" from the boot options, you also get more info by removing "quiet"
[12:15] <Bahram> ok...thx.Will do.
[12:15] <sorush20> stdin: that is not to me
[12:15] <stdin> heh, sorush20 just realised that :P
[12:16] <stdin> sorush20: anyway, I don't use kontact, but you can ask in #kde
[12:16] <frojnd> arh, azureus statrs and than crashes: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3646/
[12:18] <stdin> frojnd: is that with sun java, or some other one?
[12:18] <frojnd> I am first seeing that it's with sun java
[12:18] <xyzk> Hmm can anyone help me with installing wine? Im newb in linux :/
[12:18] <frojnd> I thought azureus is just standalone bittorent client..
[12:19] <stdin> frojnd: it's a java app tho
[12:20] <stdin> xyzk: instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine
[12:20] <frojnd> stdin: what should I do?
[12:20] <frojnd> to make it work
[12:20] <xyzk> stidin: thank you
[12:21] <mena_> stdin, is there an extention for all compile files or wichthe one i choose  this file make with
[12:21] <stdin> frojnd: I haven't used azureus in ages, but I haven't seen that error before, there is apparently a crash report in hs_err_pid11079.log (probably in /tmp), maybe that will help
[12:23] <stdin> mena_: no, not really. What are you trying to compile ?
[12:23] <mena_> its a theme
[12:23] <mena_> syle
[12:23] <mena_> style
[12:24] <stdin> where did you get it from, (URL)?
[12:24] <mena_> seconed plz
[12:25] <frank___> how do I give access to X to all local users?  xhost + 'something'...
[12:25] <stdin> frank___: xhost +LOCAL:
[12:25] <frank___> stdin: heh I think you told me this already before ;)
[12:25] <mena_> stdin, here its is http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=52343
[12:26] <stdin> frank___: maybe :)
[12:26] <mena_> stdin, if you want to finish resolving pro with frank resolve it at first
[12:27] <slyfox> I have a problem with automatically turn of screen after 15 minutes. Sometiems it does sometimes it does not. Any ideas why not ?
[12:28] <NotWired> is it possible to install without formatting/losing what's on the disk?
[12:29] <Shak1> repartition your harddisk, unfortunately if you have a ntfs partition you must use propri. software . you want to install besides windows or besides linux?
[12:29] <NotWired> i want to install over my current install
[12:30] <NotWired> i just don't want to lose all my data and i've only got one partition
[12:30] <Shak1> update your repos and do a dist-upgrade
[12:30] <NotWired> i'm already on edgy... but the kdm won't work for me
[12:30] <Shak1> aha, whats with gdm?
[12:31] <NotWired> so i figure a reinstall is my only choice other than console login, startx and startkde
[12:31] <NotWired> when i try to login it just brings me right back to the login screen
[12:31] <sorush20> NotWired: did you try to install kdm again and ask for reconfigure
[12:32] <NotWired> yes sorush20
[12:32] <stdin> mena_: have you done a "sudo make install" yet ?
[12:32] <mena_> yes i done
[12:32] <sorush20> NotWired: did you try removing gdm
[12:32] <NotWired> sorush20: yes... still same thing
[12:32] <magnus_> how can i do php offline
[12:32] <NotWired> i've even --reinstall every package in kubuntu-desktop
[12:33] <sorush20> did you change the .conf file or did the installation ask you to chage the setting
[12:33] <Shak1> try to apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop   ; after that apt-get autoremove ; apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:33] <NotWired> i've tried that Shak1 :-(
[12:33] <NotWired> in my remove i've even tried --purge
[12:34] <NotWired> i'm at wits end... that's why i want to reinstall but would rather not lose all my data
[12:35] <sorush20> NotWired: there is a way to reconfigure kdm just search google for keywords reconfigure kdm gdm edgy
[12:35] <NotWired> okay, will try that sorush20
[12:36] <Shak1> sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[12:36] <NotWired> that i've done Shak1
[12:36] <NotWired> i've been on it for about a week and a half now :-)
[12:36] <Shak1> mhh
[12:37] <stdin> mena_: this should be a list of all the files installed http://pastebin.ca/334895
[12:37] <mena_> okay
[12:37] <frojnd> I'm trying to install fluxtorrent: What is the password for the administrative account with which this package should create its MySQL database and user?
[12:37] <frojnd> my user pass?
[12:38] <slyfox> I have a problem with automatically turning off screen after 15 minutes when not in use. Sometiems it does, sometimes it does not. Any ideas why not ? Or what applications cause it.
[12:38] <mena_> stdin, so how to enable thes style
[12:38] <mena_> stdin , i cant fint it in style
[12:38] <frojnd> !fluxtorrent
[12:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fluxtorrent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:39] <frojnd> !torrentflux
[12:39] <ubotu> torrentflux: web based, feature-rich BitTorrent download manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1-1ubuntu0.1 (edgy), package size 410 kB, installed size 2688 kB
[12:39] <stdin> mena_: it should be an option in System Settings or KControl
[12:39] <Jucato> System Settings -> Appearance -> Style
[12:39] <mena_> stdin , okay i will see
[12:39] <Jucato> !changethemes | mena_
[12:39] <ubotu> mena_: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[12:39] <stdin> NotWired: have you checked the kdm log? /var/log/kdm.log
[12:39] <NotWired> yes stdin, nothing out of the ordinary
[12:39] <NotWired> no errors
[12:40] <stdin> hmm, very odd
[12:40] <NotWired> yes, that's what everyone says
[12:40] <NotWired> but it did work for a brief time after the upgrade to edgy so i know it can work
[12:40] <stdin> not too helpful tho :P
[12:41] <NotWired> lol stdin, i'm willing to reinstall if i can save my data and i have no spare partition or system i can use to copy it to
[12:41] <mena_> stdin, if i didnt so recompile it ...sorry for asking you too much
[12:43] <stdin> NotWired: I think there is a way to install without formatting, but I doubt it's reccomended
[12:43] <stdin> *recommended
[12:43] <NotWired> can't be worse than my current situation :-)
[12:44] <Shak1> rm -rf /tmp/kde-*
[12:44] <Shak1> rm -rf /tmp/.ICE-unix
[12:44] <Shak1> rm -rf /tmp/ksocket-*
[12:44] <Shak1> rm -rf /tmp/mcop-*
[12:44] <stdin> I've done it before from the alternate cd, but you should be able to do it from the Desktop install to
[12:44] <Shak1> and the .ICE files may work?
[12:44] <NotWired> is that for me Shak1?
[12:45] <stdin> NotWired: you'll need to choose to manually edit the partition table and to not format the partition
[12:45] <Shak1> yes, sometimes theres the mess. may i ask do you  ~/.ICE* files in your home dir?
[12:45] <NotWired> thanks stdin
[12:45] <Shak1> do you have...
[12:45] <NotWired> Shak1: checking now
[12:46] <duffyd> hi all. As a bit of background - I'm a Debian Unstable user for 3.5 years and though not a expert know Debian fairly well but want something a bit easier to install. I tried Mepis and am disillusioned with that and was just curious if Kubuntu is 'stable' enough for me to use?
[12:46] <NotWired> no Shak1, i do not
[12:46] <duffyd> I've just heard back stories about it from various sources is all
[12:46] <duffyd> s/back/bad
[12:47] <sorush20> NotWired: did you manage
[12:47] <NotWired> found nothing i haven't tried from google sorush20
[12:47] <sorush20> I think your problem is the same as this
[12:47] <sorush20> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81431
[12:47] <NotWired> trying the Shak1 method now
[12:48] <Surghi> hi
[12:48] <Shak1> notwired: did you try to reconfigure youre xconfig , maybe 2 mice or something else
[12:48] <NotWired> i did Shak1, the xorg.conf is clean
[12:48] <NotWired> startx works fine
[12:48] <stdin> duffyd: Kubuntu is extremely stable, especially Dapper (6.06) which has Long Term Support. I've been using Kubuntu for more than 2 years, it's always been fine for me
[12:49] <NotWired> it's just while running kdm that i can't get to X
[12:49] <duffyd> stdin: great, thanks
[12:49] <Shak1> weird
[12:50] <duffyd> stdin: just outta curiosity - is it also released by canonical?
[12:50] <NotWired> when i try to login, the screen flashes black and the login prompt returns
[12:50] <duffyd> or is it a separately maintained project?
[12:50] <NotWired> i can only alt-n to get to terminal
[12:50] <duffyd> stdin: the other thing I am interested in is running Edgy so hopefully that is fine :-)
[12:51] <lz1gjd> hello, after installing xgl/compiz i lost my keyboard layouts in kubuntu 6.10 i686 how can i fix them ?
[12:51] <vortex_> hi colud someone help me?i have problem with mouting partition in ubuntu! i know it's mounted in console but when is xserver i can't get in????
[12:51] <stdin> duffyd: Kubuntu is an official version of Ubuntu, just with KDE instead of Gnome, and I have used Edgy (I'm running a development version now) with no problems
[12:51] <duffyd> stdin: great, thanks a lot for your help :-)
[12:51] <duffyd> muchos appreciatus
[12:52] <stdin> duffyd: no problem, that's why we're here :)
[12:52] <duffyd> stdin: true
[12:52] <duffyd> :-)
[12:52] <stdin> vortex_: where did you mount it to ?
[12:52] <vortex_> in media
[12:53] <stdin> vortex_: where in media, and also, what type of filesystem is it?
[12:53] <vortex_> NTFS
[12:54] <vortex_> i think i done everything corect
[12:54] <stdin> vortex_: what command did you use to mount it ?
[12:54] <djwilcox> hi anyone know of a wireless ap for wpa
[12:54] <vortex_> in console i see my mounted discs
[12:54] <sorush20> my kdm is showing as instant messenger for KDE , in adept don't know why
[12:54] <vortex_> byt in KDE i can't
[12:55] <vortex_> i can see it only when i'm a root
[12:56] <stdin> djwilcox: maybe look at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/WifiDocs/KubuntuWPAHowTo
[12:56] <stdin> vortex_: what command did you use to mount it ?
[12:56] <vortex_> mount .....
[12:56] <djwilcox> thanks
[12:56] <vortex_> and i tried edit mstab and fstab
[12:56] <Jucato> um...
[12:56] <stdin> vortex_: yes, but what was the exact command ?
[12:56] <Jucato> !ntfs | vortex_
[12:56] <ubotu> vortex_: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:56] <vortex_> sorry
[12:57] <Jucato> stdin: by default, when you mount NTFS, only root can read in KDE, afaik
[12:57] <josh__> !xserver
[12:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:57] <josh__> !vesa
[12:57] <ubotu> vesa is the default video driver if X can't find a better one. Also see !x
[12:57] <vortex_> maunt /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 -t ntfs
[12:57] <josh__> !x
[12:57] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:57] <josh__> there we go
[12:57] <stdin> Jucato: yeah
[12:58] <stdin> vortex_: have a look at the link ubotu gave you, basically you need to use a umask option with mount to see it as a normal user
[12:58] <Minataku> That should have the keycombo to restart X
[12:59] <vortex_> ok thanks i'll try
[12:59] <stdin> Minataku: there is no key combo to restart X, only to kill it (then if KDM is running it will respawn)
[01:00] <Minataku> stdin: xdm isn't X11
[01:00] <Minataku> xdm starts X11
[01:00] <Minataku> The key combo to restart X is Ctrl+Alt+BkSp
[01:00] <stdin> Minataku: who said anythong about xdm ?
[01:01] <Minataku> Same difference between any ?dm
[01:01] <Minataku> It's not X, it's just a daemon to restart X if it stops running
[01:01] <JohnFlux> is there any way to find out what type of memory I have without pulling out the dimms ?
[01:01] <stdin> Minataku: anyway, Ctrl+Alt+BkSp kills X, try startx then press Ctrl+Alt+BkSp and see if it restarts
[01:01] <JohnFlux> can I find out the timing etc from linux?
[01:02] <JohnFlux> to buy similiar memory
[01:02] <stdin> JohnFlux: maybe lshw
[01:02] <Minataku> stdin: Well of course it doesn't restart, but how many *buntu users aren't running X through ?dm anyway?
[01:02] <stdin> !lshw
[01:02] <ubotu> lshw: information about hardware configuration. In component main, is standard. Version 02.06-3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 266 kB, installed size 676 kB
[01:02] <Minataku> Not to mention that if they AREN'T, they need to kill the running X before they start ?dm
[01:03] <Minataku> In case they've just fixed it
[01:03] <Minataku> stdin: That won't do it, I don't think
[01:03] <stdin> Minataku: there is an option in kdm to restart X anyway
[01:03] <Shak1> Notwired: i hope you find a solution for your problem. if the rm of the temp files didn't help you might try to remove your personal kde files but be aware that they contain your emails aso.
[01:03] <Shak1> rm -r ~/.qt
[01:03] <Shak1> rm ~/.DCOP*
[01:03] <Shak1> rm -r ~/.kde*
[01:03] <Shak1> rm ~/.ICE*
[01:03] <NotWired> that's Shak1, i've rm -rf the .kde before
[01:04] <NotWired> and i've even created a new user
[01:04] <NotWired> still no luck
[01:04] <Minataku> Nah, lshw won't tell you anything useful about the RAM
[01:04] <Minataku> You'll need to pull the SIMMs then more than likely look up their P/N
[01:04] <sorush20> is there anything similar to the ubuntu calendar project in kubuntu
[01:05] <Surghi> Is there any Music-CD-Burning program available which lets me save the current collection of songs to a textfile which can be printed so I get a nice cover with the index of all songs for my CD ?
[01:06] <sorush20> how do I fix this /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process
[01:09] <Shak1> notwired: 1 last suggestion : have a look on your kdm file in /etc/pam.d/kdm      this is mine
[01:09] <Shak1> auth       required     pam_nologin.so
[01:09] <Shak1> auth       required     pam_env.so readenv=1
[01:09] <Shak1> auth       required     pam_env.so readenv=1 envfile=/etc/default/locale
[01:09] <Shak1> @include common-auth
[01:09] <Shak1> session    required     pam_limits.so
[01:09] <Shak1> @include common-account
[01:09] <Shak1> @include common-password
[01:09] <stdin> sorush20: try sudo fuser -vik /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[01:09] <stdin> !pastebin | Shak1
[01:09] <ubotu> Shak1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:10] <NotWired> thanks Shak1, i may be onto something... it seems the fonts may be borked
[01:11] <DrunkPikachu> ubotu: pastebin is no fun, what if I WANT to flood the channel with my poorly written shell scripts?
[01:11] <NotWired> when i try to reinstall xfonts-base i get warnings that some folders do not exist
[01:11] <MidMark> hi everyone, with latest updates sometimes audio isn't loaded well during boot, need to restart, someone else?
[01:11] <Jucato> !bot | DrunkPikachu
[01:11] <ubotu> DrunkPikachu: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:11] <Jucato> DrunkPikachu: nice nick btw
[01:11] <DrunkPikachu> kthx, and yea I realized it was a bot right after I hit enter
[01:12] <Minataku> GENII
[01:12] <roniez> I am trying to configure desklist for kopete, but when i do ./configure it freezes at "checking wheter uic suppors -L
[01:12] <Minataku> :D
[01:12] <genii> Minataku!
[01:12] <genii> LOL
[01:12] <roniez> anybody have an idea?
[01:13] <stdin> ooh, genii, you have to see this https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ticket/3322
[01:13] <Minataku> genii: I just spent $48 on webhosting, which kinda takes me into paying for shipping with leftover money from schoolbooks I didn't have to buy XD
[01:13] <Shak1> notwired: well this morning i had an issue with the fonts too.1 of  the /fonts/x11  in the xorg file was twisted -scary . goood night guys
[01:13] <Minataku> I'll return the C++ book I don't need and use that for shipping X3
[01:13] <NotWired> night Shak1
[01:14] <genii> Minataku Howbout I just ship the stuff then inside a SASE
[01:14] <vortex_> stdin it doesnt work...
[01:14] <Minataku> SASE?
[01:14] <vortex_> i havn't still permission to read
[01:14] <vortex_> from KDE
[01:14] <Minataku> Oh, no, I have all the money in my bank account
[01:15] <Minataku> So go get that PayPal
[01:15] <Minataku> lol
[01:15] <stdin> vortex_: where exactly did you mount it?
[01:15] <genii> Self Addressed Stamped Envelope. Tho in this case you will have to put stamps on it LOL
[01:15] <Minataku> lol
[01:15] <Minataku> genii: Just sign up for a PayPal, link it to your bank account then you have it for anything else and if you never use it again then so what
[01:15] <Minataku> :D
[01:16] <vortex_> in  /media/hda1
[01:16] <stdin> vortex_: and what dose "ls -ld /media/hda1" show ?
[01:17] <ubuntu_> bye
[01:17] <genii> Well, I may. My main issue with PayPal right now is last 3 times I tried to sign up the amounts they put in for you to verify don't get processed and in my statement until after the time to validate your account expires
[01:18] <Minataku> genii: Ah, so you actually have an account anyway
[01:18] <Minataku> Just not validated
[01:19] <genii> Minataku Yes, every time they drop 2 or 3 cents in it, I don't know the right amounts til after it's too late LOL
[01:19] <Jucato> vortex_: did you take a look into the guide that was given to you?
[01:19] <Jucato> !ntfs | vortex_
[01:19] <ubotu> vortex_: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:19] <Minataku> I don't remember how it worked when I did it, I don't remember if there was a time limit or if I just used a different way to check on it
[01:20] <Jucato> Minataku, genii, you're discussing about paypal?
[01:20] <genii> Jucato I know I know, offtopic
[01:20] <Jucato> :)
[01:20] <Jucato> you know the drill :)
[01:21] <Minataku> Yeah, continue talking about it and get reminded every couple minutes that we're off topic
[01:21] <Minataku> XD
[01:21] <Minataku> genii: Switch to PM, okay? X3
[01:21] <Jucato> at least you don't get kicked for it, right? :P
[01:21] <Minataku> True
[01:21] <Jucato> I'm not that cruel hehehe
[01:22] <Minataku> It's like Windows, it pops up that damn speech bubble every 5 minutes for whatever the reason du jour is
[01:22] <genii> I'll get back ontopic now LOL    .... Anyone know why the command debconf-get-selections --installer   fails miserably?
[01:22] <Minataku> "There are unused icons on your desktop" "DAMN IT I HID THEM ALL ANYWAY, WHY SHOULD I GIVE A "<quote truncated>
[01:22] <stdin> hmm, so you're saying Jucato is that annoying little windows popup ?
[01:23] <Jucato> yeah he is )
[01:23] <Jucato> :)
[01:23] <Minataku> No, actually
[01:23] <Minataku> I'm saying the "someone tells you you're offtopic" thing is
[01:23] <MidMark> hi everyone, with latest updates sometimes audio isn't loaded well during boot, need to restart, someone else?
[01:23] <Minataku> Since it's not always Jucato XD
[01:23] <stdin> heh
[01:24] <vortex_> stdin when i put ls -ld i have dr-x------ root root
[01:24] <vortex_> sory it's took so long
[01:24] <stdin> vortex_: did you read the guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions ? (and made sure to unmount it first?)
[01:24] <slyfox> Is there anyway I can put Kontact to tray ?
[01:25] <Jucato> slyfox: kontact itself? no
[01:25] <Jucato> all hail JohnFlux!
[01:26] <slyfox> Jucato: Yes the application. So what would be the best way to have quick access to it? Move it to anotehr desktop ?
[01:26] <JohnFlux> Jucato: I've got that stupid ksysguard bug where it doesn't work :-)
[01:26] <Jucato> heh nice :)
[01:26] <JohnFlux> Jucato: I can't wait until kde 3.5.6 is in kubuntu so I can upgrade
[01:27] <JohnFlux> Jucato: where I've fixed it ;-)
[01:27] <Jucato> slyfox: use KMail's or Akregator's systray Icons
[01:27] <Jucato> JohnFlux: 3.5.6 is in Kubuntu for Edgy and Feisty
[01:27] <Jucato> still waiting for Dapper...
[01:27] <genii> Anyone know why the command debconf-get-selections --installer doesn't work right?
[01:27] <JohnFlux> Jucato: ah neat.  I'm still on 3.5.5 at the moment.  things break when I upgrade so I'm a bit nervous heh
[01:28] <Jucato> JohnFlux: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php
[01:28] <Jucato> upgrading is for the brave :P
[01:28] <JohnFlux> Jucato: of course, serves me right for using feisty
[01:28] <Jucato> hah!
[01:28] <stdin> Jucato: you'll be waiting a long time for it to be in dapper
[01:28] <Jucato> stdin: no, I'm just waiting for someone to say it's available in Dapper. I'm not on dapper :P
[01:28] <genii> j/oin #ubuntu-boot
[01:28] <genii> ARG
[01:29] <Jucato> lol
[01:29] <slyfox> JohnFlux: I did an upgrade and all works fine
[01:29] <JohnFlux> slyfox: :-)
[01:29] <slyfox> Jucato: what do you mean use these icons? You mean run them instead of Korganizer?
[01:29] <Minataku> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16902707/ OMFG CIRCUIT BOARDS AND LEDS IT MUST BE A MOTHERF??KING BOMB *shakes head in shame that he's a member of the same species as these people*
[01:29] <Jucato> Minataku: ...
[01:29] <magnus_> how can i do php offline?
[01:30] <Minataku> I've gotten off free for less question marks
[01:30] <Minataku> At least 10 times, no less
[01:30] <Minataku> lol
[01:30] <slyfox> Jucato: Is there any way to get rid of time table view in Kontact in Calendar from 12am to 6 am? I have no use for this time...
[01:30] <Jucato> slyfox: if you're using KMail or Akregator in Kontact, you can use their systray icons to quickly access Kontact
[01:31] <LjL> Minataku: that just means nobody had spotted you
[01:31] <Minataku> Last time I try to say "fork" in here
[01:31] <Minataku> Just because someone decided to insert letters to create a vulgarity isn't my problem
[01:31] <emss> kopete with irc is buggy
[01:31] <Jucato> Minataku: or just fsck
[01:31] <LjL> we aren't bots, question marks don't fudge our procedures and make us not seeing the kind of language one's using
[01:31] <LjL> Minataku: wrong
[01:31] <LjL> besides,
[01:32] <LjL> Ubotu, tell Minataku about caps | Minataku, see the private message from Ubotu
[01:32] <LjL> and in general,
[01:32] <LjL> Ubotu, tell Minataku about etiquette | Minataku, see the private message from Ubotu
[01:34] <Minataku> At least read the damn news story, tell me about etiquette while you're completely and willingly ignoring me
[01:38] <emss> when will kubuntu switch to kde4?
[01:39] <stdin> emss: ask in #kubuntu-devel
[01:39] <vortex_> stdin: everything is correct now
[01:39] <stdin> vortex_: great :)
[01:39] <Jucato> emss: depends on when KDE 4 will come out
[01:39] <vortex_> thx
[01:39] <firecrotch> emss: When KDE4 is released AND stable AND kubuntu devs decide to :)
[01:40] <emss> firecrotch: kde4 will be like kde3 but with qt4 instead?
[01:40] <test34> where would I put my iptables firewall script for it to auto-start on bootup ?
[01:41] <thoreauputic> test34: try /etc/rc.local ( or call it from there)
[01:41] <Jucato> emss: no, it's more than that
[01:41] <test34> emss: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE4
[01:42] <test34> thanks thoreauputic
[01:42] <thoreauputic> test34: or call it as pre-up or post-up from /etc/network/interfaces
[01:42] <Jucato> emss, test34: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=KDE4
[01:42] <thoreauputic> your choice
[01:43] <vortex_> stdin: i have one more problem when i'm opening konqueror i have error : "coldn't find OVERRIDING component sdp:/ in a tree. Inside error"
[01:45] <vortex_> sory if it's not enuogh gut transleted!
[01:45] <vortex_> anyone sow ever this error?
[01:46] <stdin> vortex_: I've never seen that before, try asking in #kde (and change inside to "internal" :) )
[01:46] <DrunkPikachu> quick question, I'm configing busybox and was wondering what default shell should I choose? ash,hush,lash,msh or does it matter?
[01:46] <vortex_> ok
[01:46] <emss> what is sdp:/ ?
[01:46] <emss> samba?
[01:46] <solid_liq> service discovery protocol
[01:46] <emss> what are those called?
[01:47] <emss> ssh:/ sdp:/ etc.
[01:47] <test34> thoreauputic, just copy my executable script in "/etc/network/if-pre-up.d" ?
[01:48] <thoreauputic> test34: you can put it anywhere really, and call ii as pre-up or post-up
[01:48] <vortex_> this error is direct when i'll open konqueror when i press OK i can work normally
[01:48] <test34> thoreauputic, ok thanks for your help
[01:49] <solid_liq> the protocol
[01:49] <solid_liq> or protocol specifier I think
[01:49] <solid_liq> just like http://
[01:50] <thoreauputic> test34: for eaxample ( three line paste follows - apologies)
[01:50] <thoreauputic> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[01:50] <thoreauputic>         post-up /etc/iptables.up
[01:50] <thoreauputic>         post-down /etc/iptables.down
[01:55] <test34> thoreauputic, ok I will do that if it doesnt work when I just copy my executable script in "/etc/network/if-pre-up.d"
[01:56] <kevin_> ola
[01:58] <eric> hello
[02:03] <genii> I'm still looking for someone who knows how to auto-add some default user in a preseed file or in an automatic install
[02:05] <genii> I'm almost tempted to offer a bounty of an official Ubuntu Tshirt for the solution :)
[02:05] <genii> If one doesn't exist I'll make it LOL
[02:06] <Jucato> :P
[02:06] <genii> Jucato Do they sell merchandise to help fund?
[02:06] <Jucato> genii: hm...  I actually don't know what you're talking about lol
[02:07] <djwilcox> can anyone give me a few pointers to get wpa wireless working
[02:07] <djwilcox> i can see my network but cant connect as it uses wpa
[02:08] <djwilcox> can anyone recomend a good wireless application
[02:09] <DrunkPikachu> djwilcox: just to know, what wireless card are you using?
[02:09] <djwilcox> the broadcom
[02:10] <djwilcox> i installed the firmware and all that
[02:10] <djwilcox> i can scan for networks and they show up
[02:10] <djwilcox> just cant connect to my wpa encrypted network
[02:11] <DrunkPikachu> I think I had that problem, I'm making sure about it with my brother (he's the one who fixed it)
[02:11] <dwidmann> genii: thought jenda was working on the t-shirt deal
[02:12] <Jucato> http://www.cafepress.com/ubuntushop/
[02:12] <djwilcox> cheers
[02:13] <DrunkPikachu> djwilcox: I take that back, my problem was with wep, ALTHOUGH, the problem was specifically with wep as much as it was that the connection couldn't auth the code because the default drivers (which IIRC is a part of the new kernel, or at least most new distros?) were conflicting with the ones I installed
[02:13] <dwidmann> I'm thinking nearly the opposite hue .... hoping for something black + blue
[02:14] <djwilcox> ok thanks for checking
[02:14] <DrunkPikachu> just in case
[02:14] <DrunkPikachu> check to see if there are default bcwmxx drivers in your install besides the ones you, im guessing, ndiswrapped. If there are, blacklist the default drivers and use yous.
[02:15] <genii> OK, so a bounty of an official tshirt then if someone figures a way to successfully create a default user and password for an automated hands-off install by way of a preseed file
[02:15] <djwilcox> im running a mac powerpc
[02:15] <DrunkPikachu> hands-off install? Arn't most ubuntu installs easy enough already?
[02:19] <genii> DrunkPikachu: The situation: I have client machines netbooting with no keyboard/mouse/monitor. I have all the other values figured out that I require. Except right now at the reboot, there is no user to login as, and root logs in without any password. So not good
[02:21] <DrunkPikachu> genii: ah, :\ wish I could help, I've got no answers though.
[02:23] <mena> how to run the personal wizard
[02:24] <stdin> personal wizard ?
[02:24] <Jucato> kpersonalizer?
[02:24] <Jucato> it's not installed by default
[02:25] <mena> stdin , when i restart kubuntu i found a wizrd opened asking me anout some options and its tell me to ro run again run from ...which i cant remeber
[02:25] <cefx> General linux question: Where can I check out the logs or something along those lines, of when a user last logged in or did something, from within Kubuntu or a terminal session?
[02:25] <Jucato> mena: Alt+F2, kpersonalizer
[02:25] <mena> yes thats one thanks
[02:25] <stdin> cefx: all the logs are normally in /var/log
[02:25] <genii>  /var/log/auth.log
[02:25] <cefx> ok.
[02:26] <stdin> genii: did you have a look at the support request I sent you the link to?
[02:27] <steven_> how can i change my clock from 24-hour to AM/PM?
[02:27] <genii> stdin Damn, probably not since I don't remember LOL
[02:27] <genii> stdin I have to switch locations right now so I'll be back in about halfhour tho with some time
[02:28] <stdin> genii: ok, I'll get you the link when you come back
[02:29] <mena> jucato, i have 2.8 proceccor if i make to it use all is that bad
[02:29] <genii> stdin OK, talk toya then
[02:29] <genii> later ppl :)
[02:29] <stdin> later :)
[02:29] <djwilcox> trying to get wpa working - looking in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[02:30] <stdin> steven_: right click on the clock, Date & Time Format -> Time & Dates, change the Time format to "pH:MM:SS AMPM"
[02:30] <mena> jucato, never mind
[02:30] <naught101> octplot (plotter for octave) breaks when I try to install it (missing prerequisite). I think it's in universe.
[02:30] <djwilcox> it says blacklist eth1394 is that anything to do with it
[02:31] <steven_> stdin: it didnt work...it changed on the example part...but not on the display?
[02:32] <stdin> steven_: I think you need to restart kicker, or logout and back in, your choice
[02:35] <jmichaelx> controversial question: is beryl stable enough to be worthwhile installing?
[02:35] <lupine_85> jmichaelx: it is, but wait for a few hours at leasty
[02:35] <lupine_85> rc1 is due to come out shortly
[02:35] <jmichaelx> ahh, ty much for the heads up
[02:35] <lupine_85> (shortly == "I'm building it now" :D)
[02:36] <jmichaelx> awesome
[02:36] <steven_> what is rcl??
[02:36] <Jucato> RC1 = Release Candidate 1
[02:36] <lupine_85> release candidate 1 for 0.2.0
[02:36] <steven_> is that kinda like beryl?
[02:36] <lupine_85> it's a version of beryl
[02:37] <steven_> oh..would it work on my machine? what are the req.?
[02:37] <Jucato> steven_: RC is what you usually label/call a version of that is almost ready for release
[02:37] <lupine_85> you need 3D accelerated graphics
[02:37] <lupine_85> that's more or less it
[02:38] <lupine_85> see http://wiki.beryl-project.org/ for fuller details
[02:38] <lupine_85> it can be a pain to get going, especially if you have an ATi card, though
[02:38] <lupine_85> but once it's running... sheer bliss
[02:38] <lupine_85> of course, I'm not biased at all :p
[02:39] <stdin> lupine_85: are the bugs where minimised windows disappear and you get 16 virtual desktops fixed yet? (when switching back to kwin)
[02:39] <jmichaelx> will an ati radeon 900 pro work with beryl?
[02:39] <lupine_85> stdin: that's a kde (well, kicker) bug
[02:39] <jmichaelx> 9000*
[02:40] <lupine_85> minimised windows still vanish from time to time :/
[02:40] <lupine_85> jmichaelx: yeah, should be fine
[02:40] <jmichaelx> awesome
[02:40] <lupine_85> for best results, follow an AIGLX howto on the wiki
[02:40] <stdin> lupine_85: darn, it's not a massive bug, but it's annoying :P
[02:40] <steven_> how do i know if i have 3d accelerated graphics?:O
[02:40] <lupine_85> (your card is supported by the Free driver)
[02:41] <stdin> I'll have to kick Sho_ in to action on it
[02:41] <draik> Can I download something through CLI?
[02:41] <stdin> draik: wget
[02:41] <lupine_85> or curl :)
[02:41] <lupine_85> but wget++
[02:41] <draik> stdin: What do I need
[02:41] <draik> ?
[02:41] <lupine_85> I pwn all my anime using wget
[02:42] <stdin> draik: wget URL
[02:42] <draik> kew
[02:42] <draik> thank you stdin
[02:42] <stdin> :)
[02:42] <Jucato> hi draik
[02:42] <draik> Hello Jucato
[02:42] <Sanne> draik:  or wget -i file_with_lotsa_urls
[02:42] <steven_> lupine_85: lol!
[02:43] <stdin> long winded version of wget: wget URL -O-|cat -|tee filename
[02:43] <stdin> :P
[02:43] <Jucato> oh krap... pressed Ctrl+Q again instead of Ctrl+W
[02:44] <steven_> can i get beryl with this???  01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE)
[02:44] <Eyeless> which is the preffered(best?) to use on my desktop for a local lan?
[02:45] <Eyeless> ftp server*
[02:45] <Eyeless> forgot to put that one in :P
[02:46] <stdin> I think there is an applet for local file sharing
[02:46] <stdin> "Public File Server"
[02:46] <lupine_85> steven_: ISTR that 200M cards are a pain
[02:47] <lupine_85> but I could be wrong
[02:47] <Eyeless> stdin: can it be passworded?
[02:48] <steven_> lupine_85: is it still possible to get beryl with it though?:S
[02:48] <lupine_85> I think it is possible
[02:48] <stdin> Eyeless: hmm, don't think so
[02:48] <lupine_85> but I doubt it'd be easy
[02:48] <stdin> Eyeless: why not use samba/nfs ?
[02:49] <stdin> Eyeless: or even ssh
[02:49] <Eyeless> stdin: i always had problems with samba, esp with winXP
[02:50] <Eyeless> not that thats a biggie, ill acces my files from my other lin-box
[02:50] <Eyeless> fish is pretty nice,tho didnt consider it
[02:50] <stdin> Eyeless: hmm, I have a WinXP client, works ok, but there are a few small ftp servers available
[02:50] <lupine_85> fish++
[02:51] <julien> hello
[02:51] <stdin> !ftpd
[02:51] <ubotu> FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[02:51] <julien> how can i do to backup the upgrade list of adept ???????????????
[02:51] <Eyeless> nice, ty
[02:52] <julien> heyyyyyyyyy
[02:52] <stdin> huhhhhhhhhhhh
[02:52] <steven_> lupine_85: is it still possible to get beryl with it though?:S
[02:52] <lupine_85> yes
[02:52] <julien> no
[02:53] <stdin> !fr
[02:53] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:03] <tbtk> I'm looking to disable the bouncing icon by the cursor whenever I start an application, but I don't know how, can anyone help?
[03:03] <MamanN> Halo everybody, pls help i move from gnome to kde i've lost my desktop shortcut to partition label in kde
[03:04] <Jucato> tbtk: press Alt+F2, type in "kcontrol". then go to Appearance & Themes -> Launch Feedback
[03:05] <shinigami> hi, i've upgraded from dapper to edgy for my sony vaio laptop..everytime i boot up now, my screen is stuck at ctrl alt-7 screen (or 1)..when i go to 6, it doesn't load up my kde..i have to type startx to load..how come?
[03:05] <shinigami> !startup
[03:05] <ubotu> To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[03:05] <tbtk> Jucato, thank you.
[03:06] <shinigami> hi, i've upgraded from dapper to edgy for my sony vaio laptop..everytime i boot up now, my screen is stuck at ctrl alt-8 screen (or 1)..when i go to 7, it doesn't load up my kde..i have to type startx to load..how come?
[03:06] <dope> anyone know how to turn a DRM'd WMA file into an MP3?
[03:06] <MamanN> Halo everybody, pls help i move from gnome to kde i've lost my desktop shortcut to partition label in kde
[03:07] <LjL> shinigami: does  apt-cache policy kdm  show that kdm is installed?
[03:08] <shinigami> yes it is installed
[03:08] <shinigami>   Installed: 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2
[03:08] <shinigami>   Candidate: 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2
[03:08] <shinigami> it could be something to do with the startup scripts but i don't know how to edit it
[03:08] <LjL> shinigami: if you exit from X, and then do a  sudo invoke-rc.d kdm start , does it start?
[03:09] <shinigami> i'll have to try
[03:09] <shinigami> not startx ?
[03:09] <LjL> no, you already know that startx works
[03:10] <shinigami> startx and kdm start is different?
[03:11] <LjL> shinigami: quite
[03:11] <Jucato> startx just starts X server. kdm start starts the display manager, which also starts the X server with it
[03:12] <LjL> shinigami: KDM is a display manager (login screen if you prefer), startx skips the login phase entirely and just runs some commands to get you a working X
[03:12] <genii> Brrr it's cold out !
[03:12] <jean> hola...
[03:12] <genii> stdin Still around?
[03:12] <shinigami> hmmm oic..hey, when i run startx , i'll enter the login screen too
[03:12] <jean> como hago para instalar php en kubuntu????
[03:12] <LjL> but what's started (on a normally functioning installation) at boot is KDM, not startx
[03:12] <LjL> shinigami: that sounds weird
[03:12] <LjL> !es | jean
[03:12] <ubotu> jean: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:12] <Jucato> shinigami: not necessarily
[03:12] <shinigami> yup!!! indeed
[03:13] <LjL> jean: sudo apt-get install php
[03:13] <jean> ok.... thank you...
[03:13] <genii> Did you do some alternate install or server install?
[03:13] <shinigami> after i run startx, i'm in the log in screen..then i enter password and go in
[03:13] <stdin> genii: yeah, just about :P
[03:13] <shinigami> oh..i edited the sources.list to change dapper to edgy..then apt-get update etc...
[03:14] <genii> stdin OK lemme get some cocoa or something warm into me then I'll look at that link etc etc
[03:14] <LjL> shinigami: that should not normally happen, as far as i know... still, i suggest you try sudo invoke-rc.d kdm anyway, so you can see if it's a problem with the KDM init script
[03:14] <stdin> genii: ok :P
[03:14] <shinigami> sudo invoke-rc.d kdm start
[03:14] <shinigami> ok will do it now
[03:14] <shinigami> brb
[03:17] <genii> stdin OK, ready pretty much :)
[03:17] <stdin> genii: ok, this is mind numbing stuff here :P https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ticket/3322
[03:18] <genii> Alright, off reading now
[03:19] <genii> stdin Are you the guy with the invisible text or so ? LOL
[03:19] <stdin> genii: Oi, no I'm not :P
[03:22] <stdin> I almost feel sorry for the guy, then I just read his answers again
[03:22] <genii> stdin Geez that page reads like a comedy of errors
[03:23] <stdin> I know, it's scary they let those people in to society
[03:24] <stdin> he's running breezy too
[03:24] <stdin> packages have probably been deleated by now
[03:24] <genii> stdin It's like the other day someone wanted to remap keybindings for firefox increase/decrease font size "from ctrl++ to just ctrl+"
[03:25] <stdin> heh
[03:28] <genii> Looks like he never checked back in yet anyhow LOL. I suspect his sources.list is messed up
[03:31] <shinigami> wierd...... now i'll enter the login screen after pressing ctrl-alt 7
[03:31] <surgy> hi
[03:31] <shinigami> seems like after i press then it will load..otherwise it will stay on the blank screen (i think is screen 1)
[03:31] <genii> shinigami That is the default console that X uses
[03:32] <surgy> i am comming acrossed a little bit of money in the next week and am shopping for a nice nvidia video card, ant recomendations? it has to be under $150 and be agp
[03:32] <shinigami> why do i need to press ctrl-alt 7 to enter login?
[03:33] <genii> You normally should not need to. It should go automatically there after finishing the regular bootup process.
[03:33] <Phlosten> surgy: are you a gamer?
[03:34] <shinigami> yup..which are the log files i can check? .xsession-errors ?
[03:34] <genii> shinigami Did you do some unusual install method like alternate install or server install then install the Xserver afterwards??
[03:34] <surgy> phlosten: im a light gamer, but i do alot of rendering, im looking at the xfx cards but i heard there junk, but it whould be nice to get a tv tuner card with good 3d acceleration
[03:34] <shinigami> ok.. i remembered something
[03:35] <shinigami> when i was using dapper, i accidentally changed the souces.list to edgy.. and updated halfway and cancelled (which i couldn't revert back)
[03:36] <shinigami> then i think might as well change to edgy..and wola~
[03:36] <Phlosten> surgy: i bought an FX520 128MB, only cost me AU$80, but it is more than capable for my needs. i use Blender a bit
[03:36] <Phlosten> FX5200
[03:37] <genii> shinigami: You may want to do something then like purge and reinstall the X
[03:37] <surgy> phlosten: ok thats dual 400mhz core and 350 mhz ram dac at 64 mb ddr4 ram right?
[03:37] <cefx> How do I change eth0 to full-duplex from half-duplex in Kubuntu?
[03:38] <Phlosten> surgy: err, nfi
[03:38] <Phlosten> surgy: one sec
[03:40] <Phlosten> surgy: this is what I am running http://www.chaintech.com.tw/eng/a2111_product_spec.php?serno=75
[03:40] <surgy> phlosten: i really want a 256 mb dual 400mhz 350 mhz ram dac tv tuner that runs off the nvidia xfx 6200 or above chipset (that whould be my ideal card, but i dont know if that exsists)
[03:41] <sixpointeight> can someine help me?
[03:41] <genii> !ask | sixpointeight
[03:41] <ubotu> sixpointeight: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:42] <Jucato> stupid question, you need a video card that supports 2 monitors to have twinview/dual monitors, right?
[03:42] <dddude55> yes it has to have 2 plugs
[03:42] <Jucato> oh ok...
[03:42] <genii> Jucato Or two video adapters. don't matter
[03:42] <sixpointeight> I recently scanned the computer with klamav and it put the boot image in the quarantine, now i can't boot up ubuntu/kubuntu, what do i do?
[03:42] <dddude55> like mine has an lcd and vga, with a converter i have 2 vga monitors
[03:43] <Jucato> genii: what if one is IGP, the other is separate?
[03:43] <dddude55> hmmm
[03:43] <elyon225> What is the shortcut to show the process manager?
[03:43] <dddude55> CTRL ESC
[03:43] <Jucato> elyon225: Ctrl+Esc
[03:43] <dddude55> lol
[03:43] <sixpointeight> what do i do?
[03:43] <dddude55> anyone know waht repository ksynaptic is in?
[03:43] <elyon225> Jucato: That's what I thought too... but that's just opening the K menu for some reason.
[03:43] <genii> Jucato Well, I have on this box 1 AGP ATI AIW 8500DV plus also a PCI ATI AIW 7500 and they both work great. So 1 pci and 1 agp. Don't see why not two other types
[03:44] <Jucato> elyon225: hm.. you're not using Beryl or Compiz are you?
[03:44] <elyon225> Jucato: Nope.
[03:44] <ForgeAus> hey Jucato :) did I tell you what my problem was?
[03:44] <Jucato> ForgeAus: nope
[03:44] <dddude55> lol
[03:44] <Jucato> dddude55: ksynaptic or ksynaptics?
[03:44] <ForgeAus> read only mode in menu.lst
[03:44] <ForgeAus> thats all it was
[03:44] <Jucato> O.o
[03:44] <ForgeAus> jucato don't you mean kynaptic?
[03:45] <Jucato> genii: ah hm...
[03:45] <ForgeAus> theres a few residial niggles I need cleared up tho
[03:45] <Jucato> ForgeAus: oh yeah. right lol
[03:45] <surgy> phlosten: no ofense but i think my little geforce 4 ti 4200 has a faster memory clock im getting 444mhz at 128mb
[03:45] <Jucato> !kysnaptics | dddude55
[03:45] <dddude55> umm the one for the touch pad
[03:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kysnaptics - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:45] <Jucato> bah
[03:45] <dddude55> dont answer yet, afk lol
[03:45] <surgy> phlosten: and i want faster and more memory
[03:45] <Jucato> !ksynaptics | dddude55
[03:45] <ubotu> ksynaptics: Synaptics TouchPad configuration tool for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-2 (edgy), package size 206 kB, installed size 1008 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm hppa i386 ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc sparc)
[03:46] <ForgeAus> ksynaptic is the touchpad thingy and kynaptic is the package manager
[03:46] <dddude55> right, i need the touch pad
[03:46] <dddude55> i have synaptic and advert or whichever that name is lol
[03:46] <Jucato> genii: my video card also has TV output... I wonder if that's possible, one tv, one crt
[03:46] <ForgeAus> so the one Jucato said there ksynaptics
[03:46] <Jucato> dddude55: ksynaptics is in universe
[03:47] <ForgeAus> Jucato how do I fix my kdesu? .... it accepts my password but doesn't actually work...
[03:48] <Jucato> hm...
[03:48] <genii> Jucato I have the composite-out on my 8500 wired to the TV. I use the 7500 for watching tv on the crt and the 8500 to put stuff on vhs thru the vcr
[03:48] <ForgeAus> I get an error
[03:48] <ForgeAus> xauth: (argv):1:  bad display name ":0.0" in "list" command
[03:48] <ForgeAus> kdesu (kdelibs): WARNING: No X authentication info set for display :0.0
[03:49] <dddude55> but when i do apt-get it cant find it, so i need the address for the ksynaptics repository
[03:49] <Jucato> ForgeAus: are you running kdesu in a root prompt?
[03:49] <ForgeAus> no
[03:49] <ForgeAus> just a user one
[03:49] <Jucato> dddude55: check if your universe repository is enabled
[03:49] <genii> Are you in a dir that user owns? It will try to write an auth file in the immediate dir. If the user doesn't own it you'll get that error
[03:50] <dddude55> well the problem is my touch pad or a plug in mouse wont work at all
[03:50] <ForgeAus> I'm in ~
[03:50] <ForgeAus> which I assume the user owns rofl
[03:50] <dddude55> so im doing everything by keyboard
[03:50] <genii> eg: if previiously you changed dirs to do some sudo stuff then forgot to go cd ~
[03:50] <stdin> bye 2 all
[03:50] <genii> stdin Have fun :)
[03:51] <stdin> *t
[03:51] <stdin> :P
[03:51] <Jucato> stdout
[03:51] <genii> LOL get som esleep you!
[03:51] <k610> hey!
[03:52] <stdin> *gone*
[03:52] <ForgeAus> also my fstab/mtab are a bit messed up
[03:52] <ForgeAus> it used to automount my other drives
[03:52] <k610> How can I see user accounts < UID of 1000?
[03:53] <genii> k610 By see them what do you mean?
[03:53] <ForgeAus> is mtab meant to be a symbolic link to /proc/mounts?
[03:53] <dddude55> lol ok so how can i check if universe is enabled
[03:53] <Jucato> k610: in System Settings -> User Management, check on "Show system accounts"?
[03:53] <Jucato> !universe | dddude55
[03:53] <ubotu> dddude55: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:54] <k610> soory, in user management, I created a user account with a UID of 600
[03:55] <elyon225> Has anyone else had a problem with Adept's package descriptions not matching the package?
[03:55] <k610> I don't see the account, in the GUI but ls -l shows it
[03:55] <ForgeAus> ahh interesting gksu works (glad I had the ubuntu-desktop package)
[03:55] <elyon225> !fine enlightenment
[03:55] <elyon225> !find enlightenment
[03:55] <ubotu> Found: enlightenment, enlightenment-data, enlightenment-theme-bluesteel, enlightenment-theme-brushedmetal, enlightenment-theme-ganymede (and 1 others)
[03:55] <elyon225> !about enlightenment > elyon225
[03:56] <genii> k610 I hope you don't have dovecot installed, it wants that uid by default
[03:57] <Jucato> k610: even if you enabled "Show system accounts"?
[03:57] <ForgeAus> is it safe to delete pkgcache.bin and/or srcpkgcache.bin from /var/cache?
[03:57] <k610> yes, even if show system accounts is checked
[03:57] <ForgeAus> grr /var/cache/apt
[03:58] <Jucato> ForgeAus: just do "sudo apt-get clean"
[03:58] <Jucato> er... if you meant the residual .debs in there
[03:58] <Bxnp> he surgy your story was on dig
[03:58] <genii> k610 There is a way. Give me a minute
[03:58] <k610> note: carry accounts over from FC which start at 600
[03:59] <Jucato> you might want to install "kuser" if you really want to see them in a GUI....
[04:00] <ForgeAus> didn't work
[04:00] <ForgeAus> no its not the .debs its the pkgcache.bin 8.2mb file residing with the archives dir ...
[04:00] <ForgeAus> (in var/cache/apt/
[04:01] <surgy> bxnp: really? lol you have a link?
[04:01] <Bxnp> just look on dig   and search for kubuntu
[04:01] <Bxnp> you will find it
[04:02] <surgy> ok
[04:02] <djwilcox> anyone got any tips for getting wireless working
[04:02] <surgy> bxnp: theweeklydig right?
[04:02] <k610> oh oh, I broke something, GUI is messing up
[04:02] <surgy> djwilcox: yeah you gotta plug it in :)
[04:02] <thoreauputic> !wifi | djwilcox
[04:02] <ubotu> djwilcox: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:03] <surgy> bxnp: or digg.com ?
[04:03] <Bxnp> digg.com
[04:04] <Bxnp> is there allso antorher dig
[04:04] <surgy> i found it :) lol
[04:06] <genii> Damn theres a way to change the login class but I forget now.
[04:09] <Bxnp> underdog5004: he underdog did you paste that article from surgy on digg
[04:09] <surgy> looks like he did
[04:10] <dddude55> well my mouse wont work so i cant cahnge waht needs to be cahnged T_T
[04:10] <blane> hey all
[04:10] <dddude55> i was using dapper, now im downloading edgy
[04:10] <dddude55> hopefully it works a lil better
[04:10] <blane> <--- new to using Kubuntu....  is this a support channel?
[04:10] <dddude55> its possible that the laptop is just broken...
[04:11] <dddude55> yes it is
[04:11] <surgy> blane: yes this is support how may we help you? remember dont ask to ask just ask :)
[04:11] <blane> so i can ask many annoying questions?
[04:11] <dddude55> sure, might get many annoying answers though ^_^
[04:11] <surgy> blane: yes thats how i am learning
[04:11] <blane> cool
[04:11] <surgy> blane: ask away
[04:12] <blane> im good for now, but im sure ill have questions as i go
[04:12] <blane> just wanted to get the feel for the room
[04:12] <thoreauputic> blane: :)
[04:12] <dddude55> i tihnk my touchpad is just broken lol
[04:12] <surgy> blane: kewl i find it most effective to just pop in and ask a question with no dialogue before, makes it easier to read. and remember to use pastebin on more than three line of paste
[04:13] <dddude55> it all worked when windows was on, but in the live cd i could only tap to click, then when i installed, all clicking expect right click went away
[04:13] <blane> allright
[04:13] <dddude55> so ive been trying to set everything up with keyboard short-cuts...
[04:13] <surgy> dddude55: have you tried plugging in an external mouse? preferably a usb one? my g/f has a broken touchpad and a ps/2 mouse fixed it
[04:14] <dddude55> yes
[04:14] <dddude55> both types
[04:14] <dddude55> none of the periphreal plugs work
[04:14] <dddude55> and untill i get the mouse working my laptop is using ethernet so im running from upstairs to down working on it...
[04:15] <surgy> dddude55: im assuming your using vnc?
[04:15] <dddude55> not sure
[04:15] <juano> dddude55: mouse issued with laptop?
[04:15] <juano> dddude55: issues*
[04:15] <dddude55> yes, many lol
[04:15] <k610> Gotta go, thanks for the help, ubuntu rocks
[04:15] <surgy> dddude55: vnc makes it so you can control one desktop from another on a lan or over the internet, kubuntu has it built in
[04:16] <juano> dddude55: lol, USB?
[04:16] <dddude55> oh no i cant set anything like that up
[04:16] <surgy> why?
[04:16] <dddude55> any sudo i do is through konsole
[04:16] <dddude55> because i cant open the main menu
[04:16] <dddude55> since i cant click...
[04:16] <juano> dddude55: is your mouse USB?
[04:16] <surgy> alt+F1 opens KMENU
[04:16] <dddude55> o_O
[04:16] <dddude55> i didnt know that
[04:16] <dddude55> lol
[04:17] <surgy> that helps?
[04:17] <dddude55> hmm, its possible
[04:17] <dddude55> then i can access the files and read them
[04:17] <dddude55> cause i forgot how to open files from konsole
[04:17] <surgy> and then you can turn on vnc and control it and set it up through another computer
[04:17] <dddude55> was using sudo open <file>
[04:17] <surgy> until you get your mouse fixed :)
[04:17] <dddude55> lol i used linux back in the day, then started with windows again
[04:18] <dddude55> i wanna get back into linux, and my laptop isnt making it easy
[04:18] <surgy> i know the fealing
[04:18] <dddude55> i would set it up on this computer, but i have 100gb+ to backup first lol
[04:18] <surgy> try that on a 600 mhz laptp with 128 mb ram 2 gb hdd and no mouse :)
[04:18] <ForgeAus> what version is apt?
[04:18] <dddude55> lol
[04:19] <ForgeAus> (for kubuntu edgy)
[04:19] <surgy> yeah it sucked
[04:19] <dddude55> my laptop is 1ghz, 256MB so its just barely able
[04:19] <ForgeAus> I got 1.6.0
[04:19] <ForgeAus> is that right?
[04:19] <dddude55> hmm, does vnc work from windows pc to kubuntu?
[04:19] <ForgeAus> (do an apt -version on the command line)
[04:19] <surgy> dddude55: that should work allright, if you dont get heavy on the graphics, you might look into xubuntu though it uses xfce way easier on the proccessor and ram
[04:20] <dddude55> hmm
[04:20] <surgy> dddude55: yes google free vnc, get the client and server it out there and easy to set up
[04:20] <blane> Surgy, anything special i need to do to read dvd's with kaffeine?
[04:20] <dddude55> apt-get codecs?
[04:20] <surgy> blane: kafeine wont read dvds and technicly its illegal
[04:20] <dddude55> thats not the line, just saying
[04:21] <surgy> blane: try apt-get vlc
[04:21] <ForgeAus> surgy illegal? thats a bit silly
[04:21] <surgy> sorry
[04:21] <ForgeAus> how can reading a DVD be illegal?
[04:21] <hatta> america's a bit silly
[04:21] <surgy> blane do this without the "        "sudo adpt-get install vlc"
[04:21] <hatta> decrypting the dvd is illegal
[04:21] <blane> ok
[04:21] <ForgeAus> why's the thing encrypted in the first place?
[04:21] <surgy> well you cant have a dvd loaded on your ram on a linux machine or any other type of memory
[04:21] <dddude55> so you cant burn it
[04:21] <Theory> stop evil pirates making unauthorised duplicates
[04:21] <hatta> so that they can prohibit you from reading it
[04:22] <Theory> (not that it works...)
[04:22] <ForgeAus> hmmm...
[04:22] <ForgeAus> this doesn't make sense - if you own the DVD
[04:22] <hatta> pirates can just make bit perfect copies that will be decoded by a legit player though
[04:22] <surgy> blane: how did that work?
[04:22] <dddude55> quick question, assumming i install kubuntu on this computer with no problems(not liekyl but..)
[04:22] <blane> didnt, i need to download it first?
[04:22] <dddude55> can i run my normal games on it, i dont remember
[04:22] <ForgeAus> yeah copy the raw data and its just the same as the DVD it come from
[04:22] <dddude55> only certain ones right?
[04:23] <surgy> forgeAus: you cant load it into memory legally, becuase you dont own the dvd, you own the liscense to watch it
[04:23] <Theory> dddude55: some games are ported to linux, many are not
[04:23] <ForgeAus> surgy... thats rediculous
[04:23] <Theory> yes. true though.
[04:23] <ForgeAus> if you don't own a license to watch it how can you put a DVD in your DVD player and see it?
[04:23] <surgy> dddude55: check out cedega and wine they are "application layers for win32" basicly windows emulators for exe files
[04:23] <dddude55> i would dual-boot this comp but it only has 15GB out of 100 left lol
[04:23] <dddude55> doesnt leave much for linux
[04:24] <ForgeAus> the law here just doesn't seem to make any sense
[04:24] <surgy> forgeAus: you only own the liscense to watch it, not to copy it, loading into your ram is copying technicly
[04:24] <dddude55> well if the law made sense none would make any money off it
[04:24] <ForgeAus> lol ddd
[04:24] <NightBird> anyone know how to get aiglx working with kubuntu?
[04:24] <dddude55> ^_^
[04:25] <ForgeAus> surgy... that bit makes some kinda sense
[04:25] <surgy> yes, but piracy isnt right, it should be stopped
[04:25] <ForgeAus> but the owner isn't left with a way to watch it without loading it into ram...
[04:25] <ForgeAus> the law doesn't handle that...
[04:25] <ForgeAus> or at least doesn't seem to by what your saying
[04:25] <Theory> sorry, "owner" ?
[04:25] <ForgeAus> (I'm talking about on their pc)
[04:26] <ForgeAus> owner of the disc itself
[04:26] <surgy> forgeaus: no, you can load it into ram on your dvd player becuase you cant minipulate it there, but you cant load it into ram on your linux box becuase then you can minipulate it
[04:26] <Theory> i.e. rip it and z0mg upload it onto p2p fileshare networks all over the internet
[04:26] <surgy> and hense it cannot be copied
[04:27] <ForgeAus> surgy if you wanted to get around that all you need is a dvdplayer that can manipulate it... but thats not the pint
[04:27] <ForgeAus> grr point
[04:27] <genii> ForgeAus what bugs me is they always advertise: Own it on DVD today!   but you are really just renting it
[04:27] <pablo7> surgy: there are ways...
[04:27] <Theory> anyway, technically it is very possible
[04:27] <ForgeAus> just to do plain innocent watching on a PC ... the law shouldn't stop that if you paid for the DVD
[04:27] <surgy> forgeaus: trust me it will be illegal on those dvd players soon too, if its not allready
[04:27] <Theory> google will give you the answersss
[04:27] <ForgeAus> otherwise its illegal for them to sell it!
[04:27] <ForgeAus> (ie they sold you a service/product that you were unable to use...)
[04:28] <Theory> in the UK if you buy a CD it is technically illegal to transfer the music onto your iPod
[04:28] <pablo7> ForgeAus: i agree.
[04:28] <surgy> forgeaus: no if you have the liscense to sell it you can sell it, if you have the liscense to copy it you can copy it if you have the liscense to watch it you can only watch it not copy
[04:28] <blane> surgy says cant find vlc package... sorry im really new at this lol
[04:28] <dddude55> anyone know if guild wars runs on linux?
[04:28] <ForgeAus> surgy your not connecting with what I'm saying
[04:29] <ForgeAus> I believe you with what you said tho
[04:29] <surgy> blane: hold on
[04:29] <genii> License it on DVD today! <-- doesn't quite have the same meaning does it?
[04:29] <dddude55> afk looking downstairs
[04:29] <ForgeAus> I don't care about licenses... there should be a legal way to watch a CD I paid for... if there is no legal way provided theres somethign wrong with the law right?
[04:29] <ForgeAus> lol genii yeah doesn't...
[04:30] <surgy> dddude55: go google cedega and look at the games db it gives it a play rating from garbage to great and tells what works and what doesnt
[04:30] <Theory> there is a legal way. buy a DVD player :-)
[04:30] <surgy> blane: i pmed you
[04:30] <ForgeAus> Theory what if you don't have one?...
[04:30] <surgy> they are only like $25 here
[04:30] <shinigami> i still can't get my edgy to boot up at login screen!........last resort is to reinstall
[04:30] <Theory> then why are you buying DVDs? ;-)
[04:30] <blane> i need to register, just a sec
[04:30] <surgy> ok
[04:31] <ForgeAus> because I have a DVD drive in my PC why do I need a DVD player?
[04:31] <mena> ForgeAus, Do you have any suggestion
[04:31] <mena> about what i write
[04:31] <ForgeAus> the law makes you spend more money?
[04:31] <ForgeAus> mena?
[04:31] <mena> yes
[04:31] <surgy> forgeaus: techniqely thats for watching and changing dvds you made and moving dvd data images around
[04:31] <genii> shinigami I think thats your best option actually. If it was able to be repaired from what you have now, any other issues later would be suspect anyhow
[04:31] <BluesKaj> the greed knows no bounds and as long as the themovie makers keep trying to grab as much profit by their restrive efforts the more the pirates push back
[04:31] <Theory> ForgeAus: just like a windows CD doesn't give you a license to install windows on every piece of hardware you own
[04:31] <dddude55_> ok im on the laptop now
[04:32] <Theory> having a DVD doesn't necessarily imply you can watch it on any system you have
[04:32] <mena> ForgeAus, sorry on another channel i dint sleep well sorry
[04:32] <shinigami> sigh........that means i'm going to download edgy installation cd..
[04:32] <ForgeAus> thats another thing
[04:32] <mena> heehehh
[04:32] <mena> ^_^
[04:32] <ForgeAus> windows for one pc only is wrong
[04:32] <shinigami> because upgrading from dapper to edgy seems like buggy for me
[04:32] <dddude55_> for kubuntu, do you have to restart to pick up a mouse you just plug in?
[04:32] <Theory> for example, DVDs are traditionally region locked, you can only watch it on players bought from the same place as the DVD
[04:32] <ForgeAus> if I PAID for the OS I should be able to do whatever the hell I please with it... if I got 3 PC's I should be able to use it on 3 PC's without paying any more...
[04:32] <surgy> forgeaus: well you know whats legal and whats not it sounds like you should aim your anger towards your local politician, congressman the pope, we cant change anything here sorry
[04:33] <genii> dddude55 If it's a usb mouse no. For ps mice, sometimes yes
[04:33] <ForgeAus> thats one reason I'm not buying another windows OS
[04:33] <ForgeAus> lol surgy, good point...
[04:33] <dddude55_> ok well im gonna grab the mouse of my windows comp and reboot brb
[04:33] <xsacha> ForgeAus: it's a different matter if you got vista free for submitting one bug :)
[04:33] <Theory> wow, that's a lot of free copies of vista...
[04:33] <xsacha> i was happy to accept my free vista ultimate.. but i havent used it yet
[04:33] <flaccid> i'm going to call it pista
[04:34] <ForgeAus> lol xsacha... I'll need to get 3 bugs submitted then
[04:34] <pablo7> ForgeAus: i disagree.
[04:34] <xsacha> naah i submitted about 5,.. it's only from first bug you submit
[04:34] <dddude55> lol ok taking mouse off this comp now ;P
[04:34] <xsacha> if i had multiple connect accounts, then yes :P
[04:35] <xsacha> think i can sell this vista ultimate retail cd key and how much for?
[04:35] <Theory> probs non-transferable :-)
[04:35] <xsacha> they dont know
[04:35] <genii> xsacha: It only works on the first box you install to.
[04:35] <Theory> well yes
[04:35] <flaccid> hang on one sec. how did you get free vista and from who?
[04:35] <surgy> forgeaus: if you wrote a program, how whould you feal if someone made an "8in1" cd of all eight of your programs? and gave it away for free?
[04:35] <xsacha> i havent used the key yet
[04:36] <surgy> thats the real question
[04:36] <Theory> but if people don't care about legallity they can just warez vista easily enough...
[04:36] <xsacha> flaccid: got it from microsoft in connect beta for submitting atleast one bug
[04:36] <mena> i do this to make beryl window manager start auto but nothing happened ] 
[04:36] <flaccid> ah
[04:36] <mena> n -s /usr/bin/beryl-manager~/.kde/Autostart/beryl
[04:36] <mena> ln*
[04:36] <flaccid> xsacha: microsofts road to using the community :) soon you'll be writing the os hehehe
[04:36] <swami> put it to start with a delay
[04:37] <mena> any idea plz
[04:37] <swami> cause the xgl or what u use doesn;'t have time to load
[04:37] <xsacha> flaccid: they didnt even look at my bug by the way.. you would have got free vista for saying "OS is too bloated"
[04:37] <swami> so u must load beryl in a bout 1 min maximum after the sistem startss
[04:37] <Theory> hrm, cunning marketting move
[04:37] <flaccid> xsacha: they paid nothing to have a public testing team and it cost them nothing give you a free copy. they win, not you.
[04:37] <mena> swami, are you talking to mee
[04:37] <xsacha> well they lost out on potential revenue
[04:37] <swami> yes
[04:38] <swami> .msg mena yes
[04:38] <mena> okay
[04:38] <flaccid> no they didn't...
[04:38] <Theory> the people who submit bugs are exactly the people you want to have vista, as they are the people who will be asked computer questions by their friends
[04:38] <elyon225> Could someone tell me why Adept's descriptions of packages are totally wrong?
[04:38] <xsacha> you would think the product testers would be most likely to buy the product?
[04:38] <flaccid> they saved a shitload of money
[04:38] <xsacha> i guess not in the products case
[04:38] <flaccid> thats irrelevant hey
[04:38] <shinigami> are there any issues for upgrading from dapper to edgy without fresh installation from cd?
[04:38] <mena> swami, how to make it with dealy
[04:38] <mena> delay*
[04:38] <genii> I beta-tested windoze 2.0 way back
[04:39] <genii> when it ran on 8086
[04:39] <swami> adn add in it the load of beryl-manager
[04:39] <Chuckie_Ice> >.>
[04:39] <Theory> anyone else itching to make a catty remark about how MS traditionally makes people pay to beta test their software?
[04:39] <elyon225> Theory: I think even THEY admit that now.
[04:40] <xsacha> Theory: i got this cheapo webcam for beta testing messenger 7 and guess what i got for messenger 8
[04:40] <thoreauputic> Theory: you use windows, you are automaticallya Beta tester guinea pig ;)
[04:40] <|Daisuke_Ido|> xsacha: herpes and a nasty cough?
[04:40] <dddude55_> well usb mouse works but since touch is messed up the cursor moves on its own still
[04:40] <duffyd> stdin: et all - I just downloaded and booted my laptop off of the Kubuntu 6.10 CD but it freezes when checking the disk drives (I left it for several minutes and it just sat there) - my disk drive already has partitions on it - I seem to remember a similar thing happening when installing Ubuntu a while back - any suggestions?
[04:40] <Chuckie_Ice> xsacha: a vasectomy?
[04:40] <Chuckie_Ice> oh
[04:40] <swami> :))
[04:40] <Theory> thoreauputic: your premise is inaccurate :-)
[04:40] <|Daisuke_Ido|> but that's offtopic, so i'll leave it be
[04:40] <swami> vasectomy:))
[04:40] <duffyd> stdin: this is when I had started the installer
[04:40] <thoreauputic> Theory: no I meant, "if you use windows" :)
[04:41] <Theory> oh right
[04:41] <thoreauputic> :)
[04:41] <flaccid> i guess the vista beta was an alpha and the vista final is a beta
[04:41] <genii> thoreauputic: Hows Walden these days? LOL
[04:41] <xsacha> this is what i got for beta testing messenger 8.1.. a nice email saying: "What sort of prize do we get for beta testing the software? Unfortunately, our budget does not allow us to give a prize to all of our testers."
[04:41] <Theory> one would hope the final version is beta...</terrible-pun>
[04:41] <ForgeAus> just wait for service pack 2
[04:41] <thoreauputic> flaccid: service pack is already in the works apparently :)
[04:42] <flaccid> thoreauputic: i'm sure it was released with lots of known flaws
[04:42] <flaccid> heh
[04:42] <dddude55_> duffyd: how much ram is on your laptop
[04:42] <thoreauputic> genii: think "Civil Disobedience" rather than "Walden" :)
[04:42] <Theory> all software is released with lots of known flaws
[04:42] <Theory> even ubuntu :-)
[04:42] <genii> thoreauputic: :)
[04:42] <duffyd> from memory, last time I fixed this was just to manually edit the partition tables prior to launching the installer
[04:42] <duffyd> dddude55: 2Gb
[04:42] <ForgeAus> I don't understand how the upgrade alone can be sold for around $500 here (for ultimate)
[04:42] <mena> swami, plz replay
[04:42] <xsacha> ForgeAus: so that i can sell mine for $400
[04:42] <dddude55_> hmm are you doing dual-boot or is it supposed to repartion the whole thing
[04:42] <ForgeAus> if thats the case I'd hate to think how much a full package would be!
[04:43] <xsacha> oh mine is a full
[04:43] <duffyd> dddude55: dual boot
[04:43] <ForgeAus> (ie the main non-upgrade version)
[04:43] <duffyd> dddude55: I had it running fine under Mepis and also under Debian Unstable so should be fine
[04:43] <flaccid> get this. i did a m$ license questionaaire thing to get a free usb pen drive. after waiting ages i finally got another email advising that non US residents are not eligible and yet i was able to select australia as my country on the form and there was no mention of that on the site...
[04:43] <xsacha> im in aus too, so yeah i could sell this ultimate for.. what? $800?
[04:43] <dddude55_> hmm its possible that you are telling it to make the linux part too big and its trying to install on used space
[04:43] <dddude55_> maybe running windows defrag might help
[04:43] <flaccid> xsacha: 750 i think
[04:43] <xsacha> flaccid: i live in australia and they shipped over this webcam to me just for applying for messenger 7 beta
[04:43] <duffyd> dddude55: the partition has got an LVM + LVs on it so may be confusing the installer
[04:44] <dddude55_> im just guessing though duffy
[04:44] <ForgeAus> flaccid thats stupid too... why should you be disadvantaged just because your not american?
[04:44] <duffyd> dddude55: np, thanx
[04:44] <ForgeAus> grrrrr
[04:44] <genii> Is there a server version of vista? Every year m$oft sends the place I work 12 copies of whatever software they make plus a server install. I have a collection now of server 2000 onwards pinned to my corkboard
[04:44] <dddude55_> ^_^
[04:44] <Balsamic_Chicken> is there some deb repo from where i can just apt-get install the newest openoffice version?
[04:44] <flaccid> hey i guess you lucky sacha
[04:44] <xsacha> genii: Longhorn Server
[04:44] <Theory> genii: not released yet
[04:44] <dddude55_> vista is like $300
[04:44] <swami> make a scritp and insite u put delay 600 and then the code to start ur beryl
[04:44] <dddude55_> and closest version to server is vista business
[04:44] <swami> make a scritp and insite u put delay 600 and then the code to start ur beryl
[04:44] <duffyd> dddude55: I did have a similar problem with the Ubuntu 6.06 installer on a desktop pc
[04:44] <swami> make a scritp and insite u put delay 60 and then the code to start ur beryl
[04:44] <swami> make a scritp and insite u put delay 60 and then the code to start ur beryl
[04:44] <ForgeAus> dddude 500 or so in australia for the Ultimate version
[04:44] <Theory> server 2003 is a fair bit newer than XP though
[04:44] <dddude55_> i did as well duffy
[04:44] <ForgeAus> (not sure about the others)
[04:44] <swami> mena
[04:44] <flaccid> ForgeAus: because americans thinkt hey are the centre of the world. i mean its cool it for was for non-us but don't let me waste my time fill it in and allow me to select my australia in australia . so dodgy
[04:44] <swami> that's for u
[04:45] <pablo7> i think i stick with dapper lts updates.
[04:45] <dddude55_> the comp i was using also has an old chimera sound card that is incompatible with any dll in linux
[04:45] <mena> swami, okay okay oay wait a seconed how can i make ascript
[04:45] <dddude55_> so i gave up on that comp
[04:45] <duffyd> dddude55: oh, ok. Strange thing is it doesn't even bring up the partition management screen. Just freezes before that
[04:45] <duffyd> dddude55: ahh
[04:45] <ForgeAus> flaccid I guess you were supposed to read the fineprint first!
[04:45] <mena> swami, sorry i am not very samrt
[04:45] <mena> smart*
[04:45] <dddude55_> oh really? its freezing before the partition table part
[04:46] <flaccid> ForgeAus: there was no fine print :)
[04:46] <ForgeAus> (it would have been in the terms and conditions of the offer/contest/whatever)
[04:46] <duffyd> dddude55: if it works under Mepis (which uses 6.06 Ubuntu stuff) it should work under 6.10 (I would've thought)
[04:46] <swami> touch script.sh
[04:46] <flaccid> well i actually read all the terms
[04:46] <duffyd> dddude55: yup
[04:46] <swami> mcedit script.sh
[04:46] <xsacha> once i went to the mcdonalds website and it had this checkbox: 'Choose your country:'  (to go to localised site)    and only USA was in the drop down box
[04:46] <the_hammer> hi guys
[04:46] <ForgeAus> flaccid I think thats illegal not to give the person access to the terms and conditions first
[04:46] <swami> and the write inside what i told
[04:46] <swami> u
[04:46] <flaccid> hehehe
[04:46] <mena> swami, okay
[04:46] <the_hammer> whats the exact kernal version of kubuntu 610 please?
[04:46] <dddude55_> hmm i remember when i was installing ubuntu that, like you said, i had to partition it myself
[04:46] <genii> Theory Due to pressure at work I installed Enterprise server 2003 and tried to get it to play nice thru the additional unix tools CD they give. But no dice. So I just made a debian box instead and told them all it wwas the install from m$oft ROFL
[04:46] <ForgeAus> it'd have to be in there somewhere
[04:47] <dddude55_> but i used a windows version partitioner and its all funky
[04:47] <flaccid> ForgeAus: no there was terms. i read them. nothing about only for non-us there.
[04:47] <xsacha> the_hammer: 2.6.17-10
[04:47] <dddude55_> there is like 2GB that is unaccessible to windows or linux now lol
[04:47] <ForgeAus> flaccid then your eligible for the prize
[04:47] <ForgeAus> if its not in the terms and conditions then its not a valid excuse
[04:47] <xsacha> flaccid: do what any american would do,.. sue
[04:47] <the_hammer> xsacha,  is it easy to update to a later version?
[04:47] <xsacha> the_hammer: not sure
[04:47] <ForgeAus> (of course theres probably an escape clause in the terms and conditions somewhere)
[04:47] <the_hammer> or will it cause broken packages and such?
[04:47] <duffyd> dddude55: :-)
[04:47] <flaccid> ForgeAus: indeed. lets be realistic..
[04:48] <duffyd> dddude55: bad karma dude ;-)
[04:48] <ForgeAus> flaccid sure it may or may not be realistic... I'm just stating thats how it goes legally
[04:48] <duffyd> dddude55: I had a similar issue when initially installing Mepis and I messed with it in 'advanced' mode to I didn't have the 'gaps' in the partitions
[04:48] <ForgeAus> (trying to fight that in a court of law might be a whole other matter entirely)
[04:48] <jdcnyc> I got my Kubuntu box back, but I'm missing the passwords for most applications. How can I find Konversation password(s)? I'm logging automatically,
[04:48] <flaccid> it would actually be better to claim that it was a binding contract with an exchange of service and that they didn't comply with the contract and that they did it to get personal information.
[04:49] <flaccid> ForgeAus: don't worry i know the legal system
[04:49] <genii> I think if ppl got some added incentive other than posterity for fixing linux bugs (like a hat or badge for instance) development would quadruple overnight
[04:49] <dddude55_> omg i finally got universe/multiverse enabled in adept lol
[04:49] <duffyd> dddude55: either way, this has to be a heck of a lot easier than installing Debian 'by hand'
[04:49] <dddude55_> time to get ksynaptics and see if it helps
[04:49] <duffyd> dddude55: :-)
[04:49] <dddude55_> lol i never went for the full debian build
[04:49] <duffyd> dddude55: how about dselect ;-)
[04:49] <duffyd> works for me
[04:49] <ForgeAus> whats the current version of apt?
[04:49] <dddude55_> i was told to start simple till i know what im doing
[04:50] <dddude55_> forge: i have 2.0
[04:50] <duffyd> dddude55: for sure. Debian is just 'too hard', and Ubuntu runs pretty much all the latest stuff anyway - so I've pretty much decided to go with Ubuntu for my server builds now
[04:50] <dddude55_> i just installed it today so mine is up to date
[04:50] <dddude55_> i wanted ubuntu again, then i saw that there were projects based off it
[04:50] <ForgeAus> mine is 1.6.0
[04:50] <genii> ubuntu server 6.06 has been solid for me so far
[04:50] <dddude55_> so i decided to go with kubunut lol
[04:51] <mena> swami, Where to put that script
[04:51] <duffyd> dddude55: kde all the way!
[04:51] <duffyd> dddude55: I just can't get used to gnome :-(
[04:51] <dddude55_> im not used to typing on a laptop anymore, so many typos
[04:51] <dddude55_> that and the keypad is missing the letter y
[04:51] <duffyd> dddude55: yay!!!! It works now - had to delete my LVM partition though :-(
[04:51] <ForgeAus> wait not sure I need it
[04:51] <dddude55_> gnome was ok, kde seems a bit faster though
[04:52] <pablo7> dddude55: i preferred adept over synaptic, how does ksynaptic compare with its gnome counterpart?
[04:52] <dddude55_> heh
[04:52] <ForgeAus> maybe... I might ask later
[04:52] <dddude55_> anything important on that partition?
[04:52] <dddude55_> oh no
[04:52] <dddude55_> im using adept
[04:52] <dddude55_> im talking about ksynaptic, for touchpads
[04:52] <duffyd> dddude55: no, just had my preconfigured LVM stuff - so didn't have to start from scratch with it. But np. Got all the data backed up.
[04:52] <dddude55_> duffyd: thats good
[04:53] <flaccid> not sure what you did with the lvm but you can mount them in ubuntu
[04:53] <pablo7> !ksynaptic
[04:53] <duffyd> I feel a 'blogging feeling' coming on :-)
[04:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ksynaptic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:53] <jdcnyc> How tingly?
[04:53] <ForgeAus> grrr
[04:53] <dddude55_> ive seen the kubuntu installer twice today tryying to fix this mouse issue
[04:54] <duffyd> flaccid: yeah, I just thing the installer *barfs* when finding LVM stuff existing on the partition
[04:54] <mena> ForeAgus, Do ypu can tell me where to put the script
[04:54] <ForgeAus> ok what package provides dependancies for:
[04:54] <mena> you*
[04:54] <ForgeAus>   python-apt: Depends: libapt-inst-libc6.4-6-1.1
[04:54] <ForgeAus>               Depends: libapt-pkg-libc6.4-6-3.51
[04:54] <ForgeAus> its apt right?
[04:54] <duffyd> I've had exactly the same issue with both the Ubuntu/Kubuntu installers
[04:54] <ForgeAus> what repository for edgy is the correct version of apt in for those dependancies?
[04:55] <flaccid> well if it doens't ID the lvm correctly you can still install around it
[04:55] <dddude55_> !ksynaptic
[04:55] <dddude55_> err
[04:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ksynaptic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:55] <ForgeAus> "the script?" what script?
[04:55] <flaccid> !find ksynaptic
[04:55] <ubotu> Found: ksynaptics
[04:55] <flaccid> !ksynatpics
[04:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ksynatpics - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:55] <dddude55_> ty flaccid
[04:55] <ForgeAus> !find kynaptic
[04:55] <flaccid> !ksynaptics
[04:55] <dddude55_> err
[04:55] <dddude55_> lol
[04:55] <ubotu> Package/file kynaptic does not exist in edgy
[04:56] <ubotu> ksynaptics: Synaptics TouchPad configuration tool for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-2 (edgy), package size 206 kB, installed size 1008 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm hppa i386 ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc sparc)
[04:56] <mena> forgeaus, a scrpit to delay beryl start on start up
[04:56] <flaccid> damn
[04:56] <ForgeAus> mena I have no idea
[04:56] <dddude55_> waht does beryl do, the site doesnt say to much at first glance
[04:56] <flaccid> but hey i think i might need that program
[04:56] <mena> forgeaus, okay
[04:56] <ForgeAus> try in #beryl or #xgl
[04:56] <dddude55_> i saw a vid taht said kubuntu + beryl
[04:56] <fignew> ksynaptic = good stuff
[04:56] <ForgeAus> or is it xlg...
[04:56] <ForgeAus> some tla anyhow
[04:56] <dddude55_> and they switched workspaces by turning the screen
[04:56] <dddude55_> it was cool
[04:57] <ForgeAus> beryl gives you the desktop cube
[04:57] <ForgeAus> ie 3D desktop
[04:57] <duffyd> thanx everyone - l8r
[04:57] <dddude55_> thats what i want ^_^
[04:57] <ForgeAus> and more
[04:57] <dddude55_> but 1 thing at a time
[04:57] <dddude55_> gotta get this mouse issue working
[04:57] <ForgeAus> agreed ddd
[04:57] <ForgeAus> depends on your videocard and lots of other things
[04:58] <pablo7> dddude55: you got a usb mouse?
[04:59] <dddude55_> my mouse keeps moving to the bottom right and i cant click anything >.<
[04:59] <dddude55_> yeah i just plugged it in
[04:59] <dddude55_> touchpad is bugging out still
[04:59] <dddude55_> can i temporarily disable the touch pad?
[05:00] <dddude55_> it would really help if i could
[05:00] <dddude55_> wahts wrong witht his line?       sudo apt-get install ksynaptics
[05:01] <ForgeAus> doesnt seem anything wrong with it
[05:01] <ForgeAus> whats the error you get?
[05:01] <dddude55_> ok i found the problem
[05:01] <dddude55_> its installing now
[05:01] <pablo7> dddude55: so the touchpad works without the external mouse plugged in?
[05:01] <dddude55_> nope
[05:02] <dddude55_> touch pad only moves the mouse, and never where i want
[05:02] <dddude55_> it doesnt left click or tap click
[05:02] <dddude55_> only right click
[05:02] <dddude55_> it is possible my touchpad is just broken
[05:02] <genii> dddude55 I'd disable it in bios if possible
[05:03] <dddude55_> hmm didnt think of that lol
[05:03] <pablo7> dddude55: what's the make, model of your laptop?
[05:03] <dddude55_> dell latitude C610
[05:03] <ForgeAus> whats the command line to fix broken packages, sudo apt-get --fix-broken ??
[05:04] <dddude55_> i looked on linux on laptops.com
[05:04] <dddude55_> but it just said use a certain kernel
[05:04] <flaccid> dell are usually reall good for linux support out of box
[05:05] <dddude55_> yeah but this laptop is like 6 years old and has been dropped a few times
[05:05] <flaccid> ah true
[05:06] <dddude55_> although i was told linux likes older machines better
[05:06] <flaccid> i think i have one of those. i took the ram out and put it in my imac hehe
[05:06] <Dr_willis> Linux can run very very well on older machines. :)
[05:07] <Dr_willis> Cutting Edge just came out last week - machines with fancy new features... can be a problem. :)
[05:07] <dope> i put Linux on my NES
[05:07] <genii> It runs fine on my celeron 300 64Mb and 3.2Gb hd :)
[05:07] <flaccid> hmm it comes down to the hardware. i could find lots of old hardware that still won't work on linux
[05:08] <dddude55_> it comes down to who has had this problem and put it on the internet before lol
[05:08] <Dr_willis> I can find lots of OLD hardware that dont work on XP also. :)
[05:09] <ForgeAus> lol
[05:09] <flaccid> there would be a way to diagnose. heh i need to do the same thing for my notebook which is on freebsd - can get usb mouse to work and not the touchpad
[05:09] <dddude55_> great i installed ksynaptics and cant find it on the hdd
[05:09] <triker> #ubuntu-es
[05:09] <ForgeAus> 77% of PCBSD I hope this was worth it!
[05:09] <triker> #ubuntu-latin
[05:09] <Dr_willis> flaccid,  the touchpad may be appearing as a 'psaux' device.
[05:09] <ForgeAus> (just some fun for VMware
[05:10] <Dr_willis> vmware is handy :)
[05:10] <ForgeAus> I love it :)
[05:10] <flaccid> ForgeAus: w0a cool. why you installing that?
[05:10] <flaccid> what is a psaux device?
[05:10] <ForgeAus> flaccid I'm not
[05:10] <ForgeAus> just downloading and running
[05:10] <ForgeAus> no installation necessary! rofl
[05:10] <flaccid> is it a live cd?
[05:10] <Dr_willis> flaccid,  rember the old 'round' mouse conectors?
[05:10] <genii> ps2 auxiliary port
[05:10] <ForgeAus> no
[05:10] <ForgeAus> its a VMware "appliance"
[05:10] <genii> ps2 primary = keyboard ps2 aus = mouse
[05:11] <Dr_willis> ForgeAus,  gotta lvoe those
[05:11] <ForgeAus> 719 meg tho
[05:11] <flaccid> yes ps2. this one is serial iirc
[05:11] <genii> ps2 *aux*
[05:11] <flaccid> ForgeAus: pc bsd rox. i'm a freebsd-kde user
[05:11] <Dr_willis> serial? thats a different kind of mouse. :)
[05:11] <ForgeAus> Drwillis you know of any OSX appliances?
[05:11] <ForgeAus> awesome flaccid!
[05:11] <Dr_willis> From a "legal point of view" i cant answer that.. :) but lets say... ive seen them..
[05:11] <ForgeAus> perhaps I'll see you from within it soon-ish
[05:11] <Dr_willis> oh wait i did answer that...
[05:11] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:11] <flaccid> and yeah you can just add pc bsd on to freebsd which i might do one day
[05:12] <ForgeAus> rofl
[05:12] <genii> Isn't the iPhone an OSX appliance? (as such)
[05:12] <flaccid> i just find bsd stable
[05:12] <Dr_willis> ForgeAus,  and it ran rather slowly.
[05:12] <Dr_willis> genii,  we are refering to vmware-appliance. - which is a 'preinstalled' os on a vmware disk image
[05:12] <genii> Dr_willia Ah, OK :) I have embedded linux appliances on the brain these days
[05:13] <genii> bah typos
[05:13] <flaccid> m0n0wall is the best appliance example :)
[05:13] <ForgeAus> m0n0wall?
[05:13] <flaccid> yep
[05:13] <flaccid> http://m0n0wall.de
[05:14] <flaccid> thing is an applicance needs to have a physical application. what is the purpose vmware-appliance?
[05:15] <genii> flaccid vmware-appliance is a virtual puter in which to run an OS
[05:15] <uRblong2us> hi
[05:15] <flaccid> thats not an appliance :)
[05:15] <uRblong2us> how do I connect to Yahoo chat with GAIM?
[05:15] <flaccid> thats a guest os w/ virtual machine :)
[05:16] <ForgeAus> flaccid its called an appliance by vmware
[05:16] <ForgeAus> not sure I agree with the terminology either tho
[05:16] <uRblong2us> it keeps telling me that the room is MAYBE is full, which is bs
[05:16] <flaccid> yes by vmware. marketing BS . :)
[05:16] <ForgeAus> grrr frostwire failed to boot up
[05:16] <genii> flaccid LOL thats my view also...for me an appliance is an embedded version which is compiled/optimised/dedicated for single purpose like m0n0wall or freeNAS or so on
[05:17] <flaccid> agreed enii
[05:17] <dddude55_> wtf my laptop says theres no wireless device but samba sees my network
[05:17] <flaccid> oops genii
[05:18] <dddude55_> shit im a dumbass
[05:18] <dddude55_> im on the wire
[05:18] <flaccid> if appliance because more of a buzz word, watch m$ jump on the bandwagon and try something...
[05:18] <pablo7> dddude55: are you able to use the system settings gui after installing?
[05:18] <ForgeAus> um help!
[05:18] <dddude55_> !ksynaptics
[05:18] <ubotu> ksynaptics: Synaptics TouchPad configuration tool for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-2 (edgy), package size 206 kB, installed size 1008 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm hppa i386 ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc sparc)
[05:19] <ForgeAus> sh - bash -  java is it ok to kill that process?
[05:19] <ForgeAus> if not what process to kill for frostwire
[05:19] <dddude55_> arg im so confused lol
[05:19] <ForgeAus> all I got is a splashscreen
[05:19] <dddude55_> i cant find ksynaptics now that its installed
[05:19] <Dr_willis> type the command perhaps?
[05:19] <dddude55_> installed it through adept
[05:19] <flaccid> ForgeAus: i'd kill java i guess
[05:19] <dddude55_> i did -_-
[05:19] <flaccid> jre or whatever
[05:20] <ForgeAus> that worked
[05:20] <Dr_willis> actually it may be a panel-applet and in the menus there.
[05:20] <flaccid> apps like frostwire and azureus have issues on ubuntu iirc.
[05:20] <ForgeAus> rerunning it now...
[05:20] <flaccid> which is another reason why i changed :(
[05:20] <Dr_willis> flaccid, Ive never noticed any issues with them. other then the sh/dash/bash issue.
[05:20] <pablo7> dddude55: run konsole & type `whereis ksynaptics'
[05:20] <ForgeAus> grrr still bad
[05:21] <ForgeAus> ok can't seem to run frostwire
[05:21] <flaccid> well for example install dapper and azureus... you will start to get pissed with the popups not going away. amongst other things
[05:21] <surgy> forgeaus: whats your error?
[05:21] <dddude55_> azerus takes up too many sys resources
[05:21] <dddude55_> i go with utorrent
[05:21] <pablo7> dddude55: how about `sudo updatedb' then type `locate ksynaptics'
[05:21] <Dr_willis> wine utorrent.exe
[05:21] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:21] <dddude55_> ill try pablo
[05:21] <flaccid> azureus is fine imo
[05:21] <hagabaka> i use kmldonkey
[05:21] <flaccid> its better than ktorrent
[05:22] <surgy> hi balen
[05:22] <genii> Anything that needs intensive resources like a p2p program shouldn't be written in an interpreted language
[05:22] <genii> ie: java
[05:22] <surgy> blane: pm me
[05:22] <hagabaka> java isn't interpreted
[05:22] <surgy> genii: and java is pretty quick
[05:22] <Dr_willis> never noticed torrents being that intensive  either.
[05:22] <dwidmann> java actually performs pretty well
[05:23] <linuxgoober> does anyone know how to change konsole's font color?
[05:23] <genii> Heh, that got some hackles up LOL
[05:23] <flaccid> genii: haha define an interpreted language. i believe java is compiled ?
[05:23] <dwidmann> compiled and interpreted
[05:23] <dddude55_> hey waht do i open to browse folders...
[05:23] <flaccid> no such thing as an interpreted language
[05:24] <hagabaka> compiled for a virtual machine
[05:24] <flaccid> ok that means nothing however
[05:24] <genii> flaccid Well, as I understand the differences: compiled= takes source code or high-level programming syntax and produces object code (executable machine language). Interpreted language is run on-the-fly by using a virtual machine or so on
[05:24] <hagabaka> although there's native compiler for java too
[05:24] <pablo7> dddude55: konqueror is your friend.
[05:24] <flaccid> you might complain about the overhead, but thats about it
[05:25] <hagabaka> genii: interpreted and virtual machine are not related
[05:25] <flaccid> genii: yeah thats really wrong sorry
[05:25] <hagabaka> interpreted languages are interpreted by interpreters
[05:25] <dwidmann> java is compiled to an intermediate byte code which is in turn run by a virtual machine ...
[05:25] <genii> Yeah OK. Was a while since I had to think about the differences actually
[05:26] <flaccid> there is still no point here...
[05:26] <flaccid> sorry i am wrong
[05:26] <flaccid> they do call it interpreted
[05:26] <flaccid> heh my bad
[05:26] <flaccid> but yeah java is compiled
[05:26] <pablo7> dddude55: also from the command line you can type `cd' and the directory.
[05:26] <dddude55_> ty
[05:26] <flaccid> how stupid am i? i just call em scripts heh http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpreted_language
[05:26] <genii> But the point I was trying to make is that if it's not a native executable, it will be hogging resources
[05:26] <hagabaka> that's not true either
[05:27] <genii> Dr_willis ROFL
[05:27] <dwidmann> genii: after you get past the loading of the jvm and the fact you have to keep it in memory the performance is actually pretty damned good
[05:27] <flaccid> genii: that is simply overhead. if hardware can do it, what is the big deal. java is less bloat than a windows server for example..
[05:27] <flaccid> people have this misconception that java just eats resources etc.
[05:27] <Dr_willis> everything needs to be in assembly!
[05:27] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:28] <flaccid> new computers need not worry about java...
[05:28] <genii> Dr_willis You're my new buddy
[05:28] <dddude55_> can a 16MB card run beryl?
[05:28] <dwidmann> dr_willis, pull out the punch cards :O
[05:28] <genii> I'll bring the old PDP9 and the card reader!
[05:28] <dwidmann> dddude55 the real question is if it can run it well
[05:28] <thoreauputic> dwidmann: punch cards? Real Men (tm) use patch cables and switches!
[05:29] <flaccid> man i make myself look stupid sometimes. i've even done programming at uni. i guess i drink and smoke too much
[05:29] <flaccid> i would like an abacus
[05:29] <flaccid> however you spell it
[05:29] <genii> !abacus
[05:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about abacus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:29] <genii> heh
[05:29] <makuseru> how can i add a program to the list of programs that open on startup
[05:29] <thoreauputic> flaccid: but does it run linux?
[05:30] <flaccid> thoreauputic: um you know those things to count on
[05:30] <dwidmann> makuseru: make a symlink to it in ~/.kde/Autostart
[05:30] <makuseru> thank you
[05:30] <thoreauputic> flaccid: yes, thank you, I know what an abacus is :)
[05:30] <flaccid> oh
[05:31] <flaccid> well i didn't even know if i spelt it right so you knew what i meant
[05:31] <n8k99_> Oh! not again!
[05:31] <flaccid> hey guys i spelt something right an remembered something. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abacus
[05:31] <dwidmann> But you'll get a stylin' jacket ;)
[05:31] <thoreauputic> n8k99_: knoted rope? You should code in COBOL with the letters from alphabet soup!
[05:31] <flaccid> my abacus is pre-compiled but, not interpreted
[05:32] <genii> AAAAAHHHHHHHHH
[05:32] <flaccid> like my joke, genii ?
[05:32] <flaccid> kubuntu COBOL edition
[05:32] <flaccid> dare ya to re-write it
[05:32] <genii> don't even joke about that
[05:33] <n8k99_> runs on rope and abaci
[05:33] <dwidmann> Man, that's wild
[05:33] <genii> I was traumatised for life by cobol
[05:33] <flaccid> lol
[05:33] <flaccid> i was traumatised for life with asp
[05:33] <flaccid> heh
[05:34] <flaccid> nice
[05:34] <thoreauputic> ..and COBOL
[05:34] <flaccid> wish i was alive back then
[05:34] <thoreauputic> heh
[05:34] <dwidmann> html + css ...... browser compatibility nightmares ...... x_x
[05:34] <n8k99_> i was just traumatised period
[05:34] <flaccid> dwidmann: 98% of websites are obsolete
[05:35] <dwidmann> and the other 2%?
[05:35] <flaccid> are people who can do web standards
[05:35] <n8k99_> haven't been written yet
[05:35] <dddude55_> dwidmann: porn
[05:35] <dwidmann> oh, so I'm part of the other 2%, yay
[05:36] <flaccid> yep, so am i!! :)
[05:36] <dwidmann> I heard that porn only makes up 1% of the internet. That number just can't be right.
[05:36] <genii> dwidmann: The rest is sites that just pretend
[05:36] <flaccid> you must of been drugged up
[05:36] <Dr_willis> dwidmann,  well it depends - if you count the torrent porn.. its much higher.. :)
[05:37] <flaccid> but if you pretend to do pr0n its still pr0n
[05:37] <n8k99_> 62% of the internet is pictures of kittens
[05:37] <Dr_willis> dwidmann,  but it also depends on if you are refering to the % of web suites.. or the % of data/traffic.
[05:37] <dddude55_> even withe 'locate' i cant find where its installed
[05:37] <dwidmann> dr_willis: I'll take your expert word for that, you must know oh so well.
[05:37] <dddude55_> just a few folders with barely anything in them
[05:37] <genii> Where the hell do you guys get your statistics???
[05:37] <Dr_willis> dwidmann,  its research for my book. :)
[05:37] <dwidmann> Yes, uh uh, research, riigggghhhhhhhht
[05:38] <flaccid> genii: credited books in this case for me
[05:38] <Dr_willis> last #'s i heard last week - Torrent Traffic is growing.. and is over 50% of the trafic.
[05:38] <flaccid> were the info was from research/survey
[05:38] <dwidmann> s/uh uh/uh huh/
[05:38] <Dr_willis> and the % of spam mail.. is... staggering
[05:38] <n8k99_> genii: smae place i get 77.2% of my statistics --- thin air
[05:38] <genii> Dr_willis downloading kitten pictures, obviously
[05:38] <dwidmann> poor kittens :(
[05:38] <Dr_willis> genii,  yep. 'Hello Kitty Uncut" i hear is very popular.
[05:38] <Dr_willis> "Hello Kitty, gone wild"
[05:39] <genii> Good Kittens gone Bad!
[05:39] <ForgeAus> how do I make kde/conqueror require double click to activate icons?
[05:39] <flaccid> well this article is sooo wrong http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;530976807
[05:39] <dddude55_> lol
[05:39] <dwidmann> ForgeAus: go to systemsettings -> mouse
[05:39] <dddude55_> go into system settings
[05:40] <flaccid> i'll get proper figures soon on this
[05:40] <dddude55_> then mouse
[05:40] <dddude55_> T_T beat me too it
[05:40] <dddude55_> i was too busy laughing
[05:40] <dwidmann> so am I
[05:41] <dddude55_> doesnt*
[05:41] <flaccid> i don't see how m$ and google can provide the dept. of justice the right data
[05:42] <flaccid> i don't see why they should of been consulted considering they are private commercial companies on the web. sif either of them would like to report the real percentage of pr0n
[05:42] <n8k99_> 1% of the internet is low compared to some magazine racks in midtown manhattan
[05:42] <flaccid> hehe
[05:43] <kapa> yamaha olp3-sax
[05:43] <dwidmann> n8k99_: don't have to go far for that, just go to the local sheetz or 7-11 ...
[05:43] <underdog5004> !offtopic
[05:43] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[05:43] <dddude55_> anyone here on feisty fawn?
[05:43] <underdog5004> like I'm one to talk...
[05:43] <underdog5004> dddude55, nope
[05:43] <flaccid> well the one high 1 i can find is just old and usenet ~83% http://www.spectacle.org/freespch/rimm.html
[05:44] <underdog5004> dddude55, I leave the beta software to the beta testers...
[05:44] <dwidmann> dddude55: I installed it, but it won't boot for me properly :\
[05:44] <dwidmann> It's still alpha underdog5004
[05:44] <dddude55_> lol
[05:44] <dwidmann> not even beta yet
[05:44] <eric> hallo all
[05:44] <underdog5004> dddude55, I leave the alpha software to the alpha testers...
[05:44] <dddude55_> im still debasting wether to use edgy or not let alone fawn
[05:44] <dwidmann> hi eric
[05:44] <underdog5004> lol
[05:44] <genii> dddude55 If you see stdin around ask him about feisty, he runs it
[05:44] <eric> hi dwidmann
[05:45] <dddude55_> ok
[05:45] <underdog5004> dddude55, if you want usability, use edgy, or even dapper. If you want sweet hotness, go for feisty
[05:45] <dddude55_> im still trying to get ksynaptics running >.<
[05:45] <dddude55_> lol sweet hotness eh
[05:45] <flaccid> this person looks at it more objectively http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/raskin/5851
[05:45] <underdog5004> yep
[05:45] <genii> I had to revert to Dapper after Edgy upgrades
[05:45] <ForgeAus> underdog what do you mean sweet hotness?
[05:45] <ForgeAus> whats so sweet and hot about fiesty?
[05:45] <dwidmann> if you want sweet hotness, start downloading sources and grab what you think is important ...
[05:45] <underdog5004> THE sweet hotness
[05:46] <Dr_willis> Sick little Puppy!
[05:46] <underdog5004> uh...sweet hotness...no explanation needed
[05:46] <ForgeAus> whats so good about fiesty?
[05:46] <dddude55_> wahts so good about edgy
[05:46] <underdog5004> it's...got the sweet hotness...
[05:46] <ForgeAus> grrr
[05:46] <genii> out of the box GL mostly
[05:46] <flaccid> this one reckons 12% sites in 2003 http://healthymind.com/s-porn-stats.html
[05:46] <ForgeAus> ddude I dunno whats so bad about dapper?
[05:46] <ForgeAus> I know I like edgy
[05:46] <dwidmann> I didn't see anything very good about feisty, it needs about 6 gallons of polish, per inch.
[05:46] <underdog5004> gl?
[05:46] <ForgeAus> but I don't know what dappers like
[05:46] <ForgeAus> nor fiesty
[05:46] <underdog5004> Edgy works for me...
[05:47] <ForgeAus> same
[05:47] <n8k99_> dwidmann: midtown manhattan is my local, um sheets?
[05:47] <genii> GL= opengl drivers ... good for beryl and so on
[05:47] <underdog5004> for me, upgrades have been transparent...
[05:47] <ForgeAus> rofl Dr willis
[05:47] <dddude55_> im on dapper just because im a noob still and it has lots of help
[05:47] <dwidmann> if you say so n8k99_
[05:47] <underdog5004> genii, yeah, but not for ati cards...
[05:47] <ForgeAus> or cadgy coyote?
[05:47] <underdog5004> which is to be expected...
[05:47] <underdog5004> cadgy?
[05:47] <ForgeAus> or yelping yokel
[05:47] <n8k99_> ForgeAus that would be a regression
[05:47] <underdog5004> !cadgy
[05:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cadgy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:48] <ForgeAus> !zippy
[05:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zippy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:48] <n8k99_> Wanking Wallaby
[05:48] <orient> hello
[05:48] <ForgeAus> oh efg I get it!
[05:48] <underdog5004> hello, orient
[05:48] <eric> hello orient
[05:48] <ForgeAus> so we're waiting for ghastly goat?
[05:48] <orient> I had to reinstall kubuntu 6.10
[05:48] <ForgeAus> (after feisty fawn
[05:48] <underdog5004> something like that...
[05:48] <genii> n8k99_ Damned Wallabies! LOL
[05:48] <orient> to switch from x86_65 to i386
[05:49] <dwidmann> grimey giraffe
[05:49] <ForgeAus> then harrassed hornet...
[05:49] <underdog5004> !ghastly
[05:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ghastly - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:49] <eric> reinstall, huh
[05:49] <flaccid> wallabies shit a lot down here
[05:49] <underdog5004> orient, oh...ok
[05:49] <ForgeAus> then igloo impala
[05:49] <Candamir> when I try to install skype, Ark says that the ar utility is not in the PATH. How can I fix this?
[05:49] <orient> and now I have a problem with /lib/cpp
[05:49] <underdog5004> !offtopic | ForgeAus dwidmann
[05:49] <ubotu> ForgeAus dwidmann: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[05:49] <dddude55_> put it in the path
[05:49] <eric> what prob?
[05:49] <ForgeAus> good point underdog
[05:49] <n8k99_> ForgeAus not sure igloo is an adjective
[05:49] <Candamir> yeah but where is ar?
[05:49] <underdog5004> orient, /lib/cpp? are you compiling?
[05:49] <Candamir> kfind didn't show anything
[05:50] <flaccid> pissed platypus
[05:50] <dddude55_> canadamir: sorry, was just bored, im not actaully sure on that one
[05:50] <dwidmann> underdog5004: maybe if someone would show up in there ... bleh
[05:50] <Candamir> dddude55_ thanks anyway
[05:50] <underdog5004> lol, dwidmann , you should start the movement...be a trendsetter
[05:50] <dwidmann> Talking to myself in an empty room gets old/boring real quick, even on my bad days
[05:50] <genii> Hanging out here I'm not getting any work done :) See you all when I take a breather later
[05:51] <underdog5004> If you build it, they will come...
[05:51] <dwidmann> o.O someone drag him back here, and feed him some COBOL
[05:52] <ForgeAus> what room dwidman?
[05:52] <orient> underdog5004: yes, but, stupid me
[05:52] <ForgeAus> lol
[05:52] <orient> I didn't install g++
[05:52] <dwidmann> ForgeAus: #kubuntu-offtopic
[05:52] <underdog5004> orient, nice
[05:52] <orient> I am so sorry to bother you for nothing
[05:52] <Candamir> so, does anyone know what this ar utility is?
[05:52] <underdog5004> np...nothing else going on...
[05:53] <underdog5004> !ar
[05:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:53] <flaccid> http://internet-filter-review.toptenreviews.com/internet-pornography-statistics.html
[05:53] <underdog5004> hmm, weird...
[05:53] <orient> for dvd ripping I need to install a library
[05:53] <orient> is it libdvdcss2?
[05:54] <dwidmann> orient, yes, that's one of them
[05:54] <Balsamic_Chicken> !porn
[05:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about porn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:54] <dwidmann> I think it's in the seveas repo
[05:54] <dwidmann> !plf
[05:54] <ubotu> The Penguin Liberation Front is dedicated to distributing software that cannot be included in Linux distributions for various reasons - See http://plf.zarb.org/ (not yet fully functioning) - See also !Medibuntu and !Seveas
[05:54] <dwidmann> that one too
[05:54] <flaccid> did you know that 80% of 15-17 year olds have had multiple exposurs to hardc0re?>
[05:54] <orient> thank you
[05:54] <orient> but what is seveas repo?
[05:55] <Balsamic_Chicken> what is hardc0re
[05:55] <Balsamic_Chicken> is that a typo
[05:55] <underdog5004> flaccid, I know I did...at 14
[05:55] <Dr_willis> wouldent the act of doing the survey - expose the kids... thus.. making it 100%?
[05:55] <underdog5004> bleagh...never looked at my aunt betty the same...
[05:55] <flaccid> hehe
[05:56] <Dr_willis> Those Archie Comics! They took away my childhood!!!
[05:56] <flaccid> you thought about your aunt when you sufred the pr0n on the net at 14 ?
[05:56] <flaccid> sound healthy :)
[05:56] <soulrider> is it me or this article is bs? http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/secid;9652
[05:56] <underdog5004> flaccid, uh...yeah...
[05:56] <dwidmann> flaccid: that's whack dude
[05:56] <dddude55_> where is the KDE control center o_O
[05:57] <underdog5004> Dr_willis, seriously...can't believe Betty and Veronica are available to minors...oh well...
[05:57] <flaccid> wtf is linux zone
[05:57] <Dr_willis> i always put an PanelApplet icon for it on the panel dddude55
[05:57] <dwidmann> flaccid: maybe he found his aunt :O
[05:57] <Dr_willis> underdog5004,  those chicks are hot after all these years... :)
[05:57] <flaccid> dwidmann: yeah well i didn't do it he did hhe!
[05:57] <underdog5004> oh yeah!
[05:57] <flaccid> dddude55: in the kmenu or run kcontrol
[05:58] <underdog5004> they were pretty...helpful a few times...
[05:58] <soulrider> i wonder how they came up with that "1% is pr0n"
[05:58] <Dr_willis> % of data moved...
[05:58] <xsacha> "Did you know that 120% of the data on the internet is pr0n?"
[05:59] <Dr_willis> or % of web sites.. or % of site names
[05:59] <underdog5004> seriously
[05:59] <flaccid> soulrider: by asking google and microsoft
[05:59] <flaccid> but yeah who knows how
[05:59] <Dr_willis> if you ask the Porn Filter program sites - they will say its 99% porn!
[05:59] <flaccid> it assumes that all pr0n pages are publicly indexed...
[05:59] <flaccid> hehehehe
[05:59] <Dr_willis> and they are ALL out to get YOU and your kids!
[06:00] <soulrider> it is kinda creepy that minors can look at pr0n
[06:00] <Dr_willis> Porn is Bad! but "Texas Holdem" sites/tournies are ok...
[06:00] <soulrider> but they willa llways find a wya to do so anyways...
[06:00] <underdog5004> rofl
[06:00] <flaccid> the best figure i found is that in 2003 12% of actual sites
[06:00] <soulrider> Dr_willis: i agree with you
[06:00] <Dr_willis> Kids always want to do what they are not supposed to do. :)
[06:01] <flaccid> its not creepy its good
[06:01] <xsacha> 7-17 year olds who would freely give out home address 29%             7-17 year olds who would freely give out email address       14%
[06:01] <Dr_willis> I say Set up porn for all their homepages! get them SICK of it!
[06:01] <xsacha> WTF?
[06:01] <flaccid> we used just walk around fucking each other you know
[06:01] <Dr_willis> flaccid,  now ya got to have the web cams ready and rolling!
[06:01] <dwidmann> The creepiest number I saw on that one survey was saying that $3billion of the revenue was from child porn :(
[06:01] <soulrider> lol
[06:01] <soulrider> dwidmann: that really is creepy
[06:01] <flaccid> yeah thats a scary stat
[06:01] <underdog5004> xsacha, lol
[06:01] <underdog5004> 3 Billion...with a B?
[06:01] <flaccid> now that is creepy
[06:01] <dwidmann> underdog5004: yes
[06:02] <Dr_willis> dwidmann,   its very easy to lie with stats like that.
[06:02] <dwidmann> dr_willis, it's very easy to lie in general
[06:02] <soulrider> schools should have sex education, and teach about diversity
[06:02] <underdog5004> lol, I would sell porn of me, underage...if it was just me getting off...
[06:02] <Dr_willis> its very easy to lie with any stats. :)
[06:02] <DBO> ok guys...  really... what are we talking about and why?  also flaccid try to keep the swearing to a minimum
[06:02] <underdog5004> hope I don't get kicked for that one...
[06:02] <dddude55_> is it bad if my touch pad is under psaux
[06:02] <dddude55_> in the xorg.con
[06:02] <Dr_willis> 50% of peole belive that they are half the population!
[06:02] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:02] <flaccid> DBO: i only swore once. thats pretty minimal. you can't swear 0.5.
[06:02] <flaccid> :)
[06:02] <Dr_willis> dddude55_,  thats often normal for the device to be /dev/psaux
[06:03] <dddude55_> ok
[06:03] <xsacha> "17% of all women struggle with a pornography addiction." huh?
[06:03] <soulrider> instead of trying to stop piracy they should try and stop child pr0m
[06:03] <dddude55_> lol i found out why i couldnt run ksynaptics
[06:03] <DBO> flaccid, yeah, round down from 0.5 next time =)
[06:03] <dddude55_> it just added touchpad to the kde control panel
[06:03] <dddude55_> ^_^
[06:03] <underdog5004> prom?
[06:03] <soulrider> pr0n*
[06:04] <flaccid> meh censorship sux. i aint censoring myself ok.
[06:04] <soulrider> Dr_willis: censors himself :P
[06:04] <dwidmann> did you here about that [expletive]  with that [deleted]  and that [censored] , oh my, it was horrible.
[06:04] <flaccid> hehehe
[06:04] <Dr_willis> dwidmann,  but thats LEGAL in Mexico!
[06:05] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:05] <soulrider> youre all so crazy...
[06:05] <flaccid> man i [expletive]  hate when [expletive]  tell me to not [expletive]  swear!
[06:05] <soulrider> :P
[06:05] <dwidmann> soulrider: It's not a bug, it's a feature
[06:05] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:05] <soulrider> lol dwidmann
[06:06] <Dr_willis> 3 out of 4 unemployed dentists surveyed - say to eat lots of sugary snacks! and brushing is for wimps!
[06:06] <dddude55_> my touchpad is gay!
[06:06] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:06] <dddude55_> wont stop moving if i accidentally touch it
[06:07] <Dr_willis> dddude55_,  touch it gently... with love..
[06:07] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:07] <soulrider> dddude55_: why does it make it gay ?
[06:07] <soulrider> if its gay and youre touching it that would make you gay too
[06:07] <Dr_willis> It touched him first!
[06:07] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:07] <n8k99_> ddude55_ what if your touchpad is the opposite gender from you?
[06:07] <soulrider> lol
[06:07] <Dr_willis> 'it was just an experiment! honest!'
[06:08] <soulrider> i hate when people say something is gay just because they dont like it
[06:08] <flaccid> Sysinfo for 'lister.dev.xhost.com.au': FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE running KDE 3.5.1, , HD: 8/43GB, , 109 proc's,
[06:08] <flaccid> see my notebook is called lister. hes male!!
[06:08] <dwidmann> soulrider: feeling sorry for the gays?
[06:08] <dwidmann> or the things being called gay?
[06:08] <Dr_willis> I though a 'list' was.... or was that a 'lisp' ?
[06:08] <flaccid> i touch is pad daily :)
[06:08] <soulrider> it just boithers me that some people call everything gay as if it was wrong
[06:09] <Dr_willis> i though they ment it was 'happy and cheerfull'
[06:09] <flaccid> well there is gay and there is ghey
[06:09] <flaccid> they are different
[06:09] <Dr_willis> then theres gu-aaaay
[06:09] <soulrider> flaccid: how are they different?
[06:09] <dddude55_> then there's euraguay
[06:09] <Dr_willis> Puragay
[06:09] <Dr_willis> Paraguay?
[06:09] <dwidmann> Dr_willis: or worse yet, there is fabulous
[06:09] <flaccid> and uranus
[06:10] <flaccid> um soulrider ghey is hard to easily define, maybe google
[06:10] <soulrider> or urbandictionary :P
[06:10] <dwidmann> http://urbandictionary.com anybody?
[06:11] <underdog5004> or even gheigh
[06:11] <n8k99_> and this relates to #kubuntu how?
[06:11] <flaccid> kubuntu is gay
[06:11] <underdog5004> very true
[06:11] <soulrider> Usurping the traditional term GAY to take the homosexual meaning out and leaving in the lame. - and i still dont get the "lame" part
[06:11] <underdog5004> not even close
[06:11] <flaccid> its a happy operating system
[06:11] <soulrider> lol flaccid
[06:11] <soulrider> i hope youa ll know theres agy people working on ubuntu...
[06:12] <n8k99_> !lame
[06:12] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB
[06:12] <flaccid> interesting definitions http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ghey
[06:12] <surgy> how do i see a network share? do i have to mount it?
[06:13] <flaccid> surgy: smb://server/ or smb:/ or smb://server/share in konqueror
[06:13] <flaccid> and wtf am i watching golf
[06:14] <dwidmann> surgy: systems -> remote places -> samba shares -> works also
[06:14] <dddude55_> surgy: i want to k now also
[06:14] <shinigami> what's the log file to see what are the errors when booting up (to login screen)
[06:14] <flaccid> i also love krusader for smb
[06:14] <dddude55_> i click a network computer and it shows nothing
[06:15] <dwidmann> Hmm, I've never seen this before, what is the lan:// ioslave for?
[06:15] <flaccid> shinigami: not sure if all go in there. but /var/log/syslog and /var/log/messages
[06:15] <surgy> dwidmann: theres no "remote places" in system or did you mean system settings?
[06:15] <dwidmann> surgy: I mean the system menu
[06:15] <dwidmann> should be right beside the k-menu
[06:15] <dwidmann> on a default setup
[06:16] <flaccid> which will take you to smb:/ hmm thats handy thanks dwidmann
[06:16] <shinigami> because i seem to be stuck at a blank screen,until i press ctrl alt-7 then the login screen loads up..but i wanna check the logs..
[06:16] <surgy> dwidmann: i see it thnx
[06:17] <flaccid> shinigami: hmm maybe your usplash is rooted. i noticed issues on edgy with it. you try the other ttys ?
[06:17] <shinigami> usplash is rooted..where's my usplash?
[06:17] <shinigami> that means i just change the ownership right?
[06:17] <flaccid> usplash is the splash screen
[06:17] <surgy> dwidmann: but no shares are showing up..... and i know that my g/f has shared docs on her windows comp
[06:18] <flaccid> surgy: you probably need netbios resolution
[06:18] <dwidmann> it takes about 10 secs for mine, but I'm assuming you waited
[06:18] <flaccid> surgy: no shares or no computers?
[06:18] <dwidmann> surgy: try typing in "smb://mshome
[06:18] <dddude55_> i have remote places under system
[06:18] <calvarez> hello! I installed kubuntu edgy in a laptop. After a fresh install, neither apt-get nor adept will allow me to install more things. adept simply has everything grayed out, and apt-get says it cannot find the packages. IS there a repo config problem? In the past the repos would be configured properly right after a clean install
[06:18] <shinigami> sbin/usplash?
[06:18] <dddude55_> i see my network and click it
[06:19] <dddude55_> it shows the other 3 comps on the network
[06:19] <flaccid> to verfity that it works in gui smb://IPaddressOfComputer and in konsole smbclient -NL //ipaddressofserver
[06:19] <dddude55_> i click a comp and none of the shared folders are there
[06:20] <dddude55_> i timed out trying to see folders on the network
[06:20] <flaccid> right. um put the share name in the URI manually and see if the share loads
[06:20] <flaccid> eg. //computer/SharedDocs
[06:20] <flaccid> you can hide smb shares, but its not something presented in windows
[06:20] <surgy> dwidmann:
[06:20] <surgy> surgy@surgy:~$ smb://mshome
[06:20] <surgy> bash: smb://mshome: No such file or directory
[06:20] <surgy> surgy@surgy:~$
[06:20] <shinigami> how to find out if my usplash is rooted??
[06:20] <surgy> and no computers or shares
[06:20] <dwidmann> surgy, can't do it in bash
[06:20] <dwidmann> I meant to do it in Konqueror
[06:21] <flaccid> thats a URI not a command
[06:21] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:21] <dddude55_> it says 2 items, no files, 2 folders
[06:21] <dddude55_> i typed in the shared name of the folder
[06:21] <dddude55_> nothing
[06:21] <flaccid> surgy: smbtree is handy as a command
[06:21] <Dr_willis> i like smb4k
[06:21] <flaccid> dddude55: try the command line tools
[06:21] <surgy> dwidmann:ok
[06:21] <flaccid> you'll get the error if you do smbclient //server/share
[06:21] <dddude55_> ok i see a folder on the other comp
[06:21] <flaccid> a folder or share?
[06:22] <surgy> dwidmann: nothing is in mshome
[06:22] <Dr_willis> the samba shares some times take a little time to show up.
[06:22] <dddude55_> folder, and i see whats in the folder
[06:22] <dddude55_> i have 2 comps in mshome
[06:22] <dddude55_> 1 comp times out, the other shows everuthing
[06:22] <dwidmann> surgy, are both comps on?
[06:22] <flaccid> well lif your workgoup is not mshome its not going to work
[06:22] <surgy> dwidmann: i got a timeout from konq
[06:22] <flaccid> ok then the problem is most likely with that computer that is timing out. eg. firewall
[06:23] <dddude55_> i see
[06:23] <surgy> dwidmann: i was just making sure my end was set up right
[06:23] <flaccid> verifty in konsole using smbclient
[06:23] <dddude55_> lol come to think of it, i dont think i have any folders shared on that comp
[06:23] <surgy> dwidmann: im guessing the problem is on her end
[06:23] <flaccid> then let me know the error
[06:23] <flaccid> i think with xp now you have to enable sharing as its off by default
[06:23] <dddude55_> yeah cause the other comp doesnt see it either lol
[06:23] <dddude55_> thats why
[06:23] <dwidmann> surgy, probably, konqueror will pick up samba shares without even having samba configured at all on your end
[06:24] <shinigami> how to find out if my usplash is rooted??
[06:24] <dwidmann> shinigami: rooted?
[06:24] <dddude55_> teehee im looking at my bros pics...
[06:24] <surgy> dwidmann: and by samba shares you mean it will pick up the files that are shared via winxp?
 shinigami: hmm maybe your usplash is rooted. i noticed issues on edgy with it. you try the other ttys ?
[06:25] <flaccid> dwidmann: not always. most of the time you need to be on the same workgroup especially if the smb servers are windows
[06:25] <dwidmann> surgy: yes
[06:25] <flaccid> shinigami: im sorry i can't help you with usplash.
[06:25] <dwidmann> flaccid: you dont' even have to install samba to browse samba shares in konqui
[06:25] <surgy> kewl thnx
[06:25] <flaccid> um yes in konqueror
[06:25] <shinigami> but what you mean by rooted? the file ownership?
[06:25] <dddude55_> where does limewire save files
[06:25] <flaccid> you still need smbclient
[06:25] <dddude55_> im looking for my bros music and crap
[06:26] <flaccid> shinigami: i said rooted coz i don't know what the problem is
[06:26] <dwidmann> The best thing I ever did for usplash was disabling it
[06:26] <dwidmann> Too buggy for my tastes
[06:27] <vn-> hi, whats the default driver installed by kubuntu for nvidia cards?
[06:27] <vn-> graphic
[06:27] <dwidmann> Plus after disabling it my system boots 1-2 seconds faster ...
[06:27] <flaccid> you don't need smb server but you do need client and a valid smb.conf depending on your NetBT setup with election
[06:27] <flaccid> it gets quite complicated
[06:27] <Dr_willis> vn-,  i would guess it uses the 'nv' driver
[06:27] <dwidmann> vn-: it'll either select vesa or nv
[06:27] <dddude55_> i cant cahnge clock settings
[06:27] <shinigami> oh..ok
[06:27] <dddude55_> i was in it then closed
[06:27] <dddude55_> went in again and it says something about su
[06:27] <vn-> any way I can know?
[06:27] <Dr_willis> vn-,  look in the xorg.conf file
[06:27] <dddude55_> su kde returned with an error
[06:28] <flaccid> !nvidia
[06:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:28] <vn-> ok, got vesafb
[06:28] <shinigami> because i noticed, after upgrading to edgy, some application i need to run gives me a QFontLoader: Internal error............
[06:28] <flaccid> !xorg.conf
[06:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xorg.conf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:28] <flaccid> hmmm
[06:28] <shinigami> what's QFontLoader???
[06:28] <Dr_willis> vesafb? that would be odd...
[06:28] <flaccid> i'd probably use the nv driver. the vesa driver is good when you can't use something else but sux otherwise
[06:28] <rexbron> hey, I am having trouble changing the kicker background, it will not change from the default (another image is selected but there is no change when applying)
[06:29] <dddude55_> lol is it bad to transfer 5.82 gigs over the network
[06:29] <vn-> k well I wanna put beryl
[06:29] <dwidmann> flaccid: in my experience the nv and vesa drivers suck equally
[06:29] <Morbo> dddude55_- A private network?
[06:29] <flaccid> its better to transfer 10TB
[06:29] <dddude55_> yeah
[06:29] <Morbo> dddude55_- Between computers, probably not
[06:29] <dddude55_> like my comp to my laptop
[06:29] <vn-> bah I'll wait another day
[06:29] <shinigami> !qfontloader
[06:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qfontloader - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:29] <flaccid> dwidmann: hehe probably. i guess i'm not a gamer
[06:29] <Morbo> It'd be best if you had some sort of rate limiting
[06:29] <vn-> ttyl thanks
[06:29] <Morbo> Unless you're the only user :p
[06:29] <flaccid> transfer whatever size files you like on your LAN...
[06:30] <dddude55_> so wahts the point of having wireless cards that go 54MBits per/second, if hdd's are the same speed
[06:30] <dwidmann> flaccid: it's not just that, but simple things like smooth scrolling, autoscrolling, scrolling, moving windows, etc. Painful with the nv or the vesa drivers
[06:30] <Morbo> dddude55_- Cache/memory
[06:30] <flaccid> hdds are not same speed huh
[06:30] <Morbo> Anyways, hdds are 100-300 mbps
[06:30] <flaccid> ok luck im' on ati
[06:30] <Morbo> Well, unless you count ATA33
[06:30] <dddude55_> i meant trhey arent really getting faster
[06:31] <dwidmann> dddude55_: my hard drive tops out at about 63MB/s
[06:31] <dddude55_> like 7200 is highend, and 10something is best right now
[06:31] <flaccid> um SATA is heaps mad
[06:31] <Morbo> dddude55_- You're forgetting about memory and cache
[06:31] <Dr_willis> now we need a way to use USB thumbdrives as cache! :)
[06:31] <Morbo> dddude55_- 15K rpm, actually
[06:31] <dddude55_> vista does that
[06:31] <Morbo> dddude55_- But you'll only find that on expensive SCSI drives
[06:31] <flaccid> and yeah 54mbps is the max speed which is usually unreachable. the speed reduces depending on signal quality and shiz
[06:31] <dddude55_> vista can use flash sticks as memory
[06:32] <Morbo> dddude55_- He knows.
[06:32] <Dr_willis> dddude55_,  theres supposed to be new hard drives that include a gb or so of 'usb drive' stuff on them for caching. :)
[06:32] <dwidmann> Timing cached reads:   3468 MB in  2.00 seconds = 1734.22 MB/sec
[06:32] <dwidmann>  Timing buffered disk reads:  190 MB in  3.01 seconds =  63.05 MB/sec
[06:32] <Morbo> dddude55_- He was kidding.
[06:32] <flaccid> so when the new protocols come out, you won't go that full speed but you'll be going a lot faster than on 54G
[06:32] <Dr_willis> We need Ram Drives!
[06:32] <Dr_willis> We need Warp Drives!
[06:32] <flaccid> ouch
[06:33] <shinigami> !font
[06:33] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[06:33] <flaccid> no we just need to wait for flash solid state to get faster. its getting pretty fast now
[06:33] <flaccid> well it is in experimental
[06:33] <dwidmann> Dr_willis: if you lend me 100,000 I'll get you one
[06:33] <dddude55_> i gotta find that one ep of bleach off this comp
[06:33] <Dr_willis> actually i could use a adaptor to go from Compact Flash to Laptop sized IDE conector...
[06:34] <feltman> anyone knows about scim?
[06:34] <feltman> i want to write my one language character with firefox
[06:34] <surgy> !nvidia surgy
[06:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidia surgy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:35] <surgy> lol
[06:35] <feltman> so i installed scim-gtk2-immodule
[06:35] <surgy> just testing :)
[06:35] <feltman> other programes like openoffice, kate do well with scim
[06:36] <feltman> but with firefox, i can't write
[06:36] <feltman> does anyone know?
[06:36] <dwidmann> feltman, does it work for you with konqueror?
[06:37] <feltman> yes, i can type with konqueror
[06:37] <feltman> i can also type with openoffice
[06:37] <feltman> but i cannot with firefox
[06:38] <feltman> i have searched ubuntuforums.org for several hours, i still can't find any solution
[06:40] <surgy> ok the computer is definately on
[06:40] <dddude55_> umm ok
[06:40] <dddude55_> i copied music from the other comp
[06:40] <surgy> and the hdd is shared but i cant see the share in smb
[06:41] <surgy> dddude55: yeah?
[06:41] <dddude55_> but when i play it it immediately says playlist finished
[06:41] <surgy> what are you playing it with?
[06:42] <dddude55_> i dont know, i think kaffeine, nothing pops up but a lil window
[06:42] <surgy> ok open amarok
[06:42] <surgy> amarok has all the features of windows media player plsu some and is nice
[06:42] <surgy> use that
[06:42] <surgy> open amarok import media library point it at your media directory and play
[06:43] <sasoyna> Hi guys.A question about Samba; Adept find Samba Network Servers
[06:43] <sasoyna> Package: xffm4
[06:43] <sasoyna> File manager for the Xfce4 desktop environment
[06:43] <sasoyna> xffm is the file manager of the Xfce4 desktop environment which combines the previous work in xftree, xfsamba and xfglob.
[06:43] <sasoyna> Homepage: http://www.xfce.org/  i use Kde tha's the right packet or somthing else?
[06:43] <surgy> or search for media files
[06:43] <flaccid> what are you trying to play in amarok that is failing?
[06:43] <dddude55_> nope thats the one popping up the window, but kaff doesnt work either
[06:43] <flaccid> !paste > sasoyna
[06:43] <dddude55_> i havnt gotten any codecs, do i need to
[06:43] <dddude55_> mp3
[06:43] <surgy> you want the mps kodec?
[06:43] <surgy> !mp3
[06:43] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:43] <flaccid> yeah you need em
[06:44] <mortici> is there any reason why apt-get update wouldn't get updates from a repo? even tho it shows in the repo that it has been updated?
[06:44] <dddude55_> umm so how do i play mp3's if they are restricted
[06:45] <flaccid> restricted how
[06:45] <Tm_T> dddude55_: Check those urls.
[06:45] <dddude55_> idk on one of those pages the boit said it said they are restricted
[06:45] <sasoyna> >>flaccid: !paste > sasoyna ;sorry i am niewbie:) to irc & kubuntu what you mean?
[06:46] <makuseru> hi, i try to do a "apt-get -f install" to fix some problems, and i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3663/ can someone please help me
[06:46] <flaccid> sasoyna: do not paste more than 2 lines
[06:46] <kasper> hi all
[06:46] <wright007> hi
[06:46] <flaccid> restricted as in the packages are not free software. you can install
[06:47] <flaccid> its just called restricted
[06:47] <sasoyna> >>flaccid: sasoyna: do not paste more than 2 lines :Ok tkx
[06:47] <kasper> where i can find a flash plugin that work?
[06:47] <surgy> dddude55: you need to learn how to enable repositorys
[06:47] <surgy> !restricted
[06:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:47] <feltman> somebody using scim, help me!
[06:47] <sasoyna> >> flaccid: yeah you need em :tha's was for samba?
[06:48] <flaccid> sasoyna: no that was for dddude55
[06:48] <dddude55_> so enable the ones under gstream?
[06:48] <kasper> the fonts on my actual flash plugin is not showed
[06:48] <sasoyna> sorry
[06:48] <surgy> dddude55: type this and read over that a few time: sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list    it says how to enable them there
[06:48] <Flying_Eagle> makuseru, did you do apt-get autoremove?
[06:48] <flaccid> !fonts > kasper
[06:48] <dddude55_> konsole
[06:48] <dddude55_> wtf lol konsole opened but didnt take focus
[06:48] <makuseru> Flting_Eagle: didnt try that, dunno why, ill try now
[06:49] <Flying_Eagle> and have you tried to uninstall beryl-plugins-nonfree before installing the other package?
[06:49] <kasper> !Multiverse
[06:49] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:49] <flaccid> dddude55: you can change window behaviour in kcontrol
[06:49] <kasper> !fonts
[06:49] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[06:49] <Flying_Eagle> i think, everything there ist to know stands right in the error-message, makuseru
[06:50] <dddude55_> i tried that line, it said timestamp too far in the future
[06:50] <surgy> dddude55: so whats your problem exactly?
[06:50] <dddude55_> idk lol
[06:50] <dddude55_> i have alot of problems right now
[06:51] <dddude55_> i suppose wireless should be the top priority so i can get out of this uncomfy chair
[06:51] <makuseru> Flting_Eagle: You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these. same error i get when i ACCTUALLY do -f, how can i fix this? i seem to be going in circles
[06:51] <surgy> dddude55: then im no help to you unless you have a specific question
[06:51] <sasoyna> anyone know how can i download samba on kubuntu?
[06:51] <dddude55_> lol ok
[06:51] <flaccid> sasoyna: install the package samba
[06:51] <dddude55_> im gonna try and figure this out on my own anyways ^)^
[06:52] <surgy> ok
[06:53] <kasper> THANKS THANKS.... by.. dont work..
[06:53] <kasper> wait wait
[06:53] <dddude55_> gotta restart, everything is returning a su error
[06:53] <sasoyna> flaccid: the only package adept find is Package: xffm4 and it's for the Xfce4 desktop environment.That's right for kde?
[06:54] <flaccid> sasoyna: no
[06:54] <unity> i've got an nvidia geforce fx 5200, and two monitors, i tried configuring them with the kubuntu GUI tools.. and they made it so my xorg.conf was configured in such a way that x wouldn't even load..
[06:54] <flaccid> !info samba
[06:54] <ubotu> samba: a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 2836 kB, installed size 7200 kB
[06:55] <unity> anyone have an example of an xorg.conf file using two monitors on my card?
[06:55] <flaccid> sasoyna: i do not know why its not coming up in adept. run sudo apt-get install samba from konsole
[06:55] <makuseru> hi, i try to do a "apt-get -f install" to fix some problems, and i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3663/ can someone please help me
[06:55] <sasoyna> tnkx. i try now
[06:55] <mbelleza> hello im new to kubuntu...how to join a new channel for ruby in konversation??????????/anyone???
[06:57] <intelikey> /join #anychannel
[06:57] <mbelleza> tanx...
[06:57] <intelikey> /join ##somechannels
[06:58] <kasper> !info fonts
[06:58] <ubotu> Package fonts does not exist in any distro I know
[06:58] <unity> speaking of.. does /server -m wha.te.ver work?
[06:58] <kasper> !info
[06:58] <ubotu> info: Standalone GNU Info documentation browser. In component main, is standard. Version 4.8.dfsg.1-1ubuntu0.1 (edgy), package size 159 kB, installed size 328 kB
[06:58] <kasper> !info list
[06:58] <ubotu> Package list does not exist in any distro I know
[06:58] <kasper> !info --help
[06:58] <kasper> !info -h
[06:58] <dddude55_> back ^_^
[06:59] <intelikey> !help > kasper
[06:59] <kasper> hehehe... tnx
[06:59] <kasper> !help
[06:59] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:00] <unity> !help nvidia
[07:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help nvidia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:00] <intelikey> !nvidia
[07:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:01] <sasoyna>  flaccid: I install it but i have errors: account_policy_get: tdb_fetch_uint32 failed for field 1 (min password length), returning 0 .I hope good:)
[07:02] <flaccid> sasoyna: don't know about that error sorry
[07:03] <sasoyna>  flaccid: Right man you gave me your help  & that's enough Thanks
[07:03] <flaccid> np
[07:04] <sasoyna> now i must work with google
[07:04] <BishiNightBird> .... wow... I think I screwed up my kubuntu install...
[07:04] <surgy> GOOD NIGHT OH LAND OF MISTERIOUS KUBUNTU
[07:04] <dddude55_> when it says an additional 19.9Mb of disk space will be lost...
[07:04] <dddude55_> does that just mean it takes up that much space?
[07:04] <surgy> and fare the well
[07:04] <intelikey> thee
[07:05] <surgy> intelikey: you ruin everything....... j/k
[07:05] <intelikey> (:
[07:05] <surgy> dddude55: yes thats exactly what it means
[07:05] <surgy> night all
[07:05] <dddude55_> ok ty ty
[07:05] <intelikey> good night ku bu naut
[07:06] <dddude55_> i already had universe/multi unlocked from adept
[07:06] <dddude55_> i just didnt know the right packages but i got it now
[07:06] <dddude55_> no go with kubunut
[07:06] <dddude55_> kubun tu*
[07:06] <dddude55_> its much prettier lol
[07:06] <dddude55_> and so far easier to set up
[07:06] <BishiNightBird> dddude55, the prettier factor can easily be changed with different themes...
 and so far easier to set up<<<  ?
[07:07] <intelikey> it's the same system for crying out loud
[07:07] <dddude55_> lol
[07:07] <BishiNightBird> yeah, for ubuntu/kubuntu, it's a question of "do you want kde, or do you want gnome"
[07:07] <dddude55_> they are released with different base features, thats all
[07:07] <dddude55_> diff start up screens
[07:08] <unity> kde/gnome
[07:08] <dddude55_> kde pwns gnome ^_^
[07:08] <dddude55_> although i like gnomes name lol
[07:08] <unity> i think so too
[07:08] <intelikey> not "base" features.   default features.     base system is exactactly alike
[07:09] <dddude55_> intelikey likes to point out how noobish i am
[07:09] <intelikey> (:
[07:09] <dddude55_> do i need libdvdcss2 to read dvd isos as well
[07:10] <dwidmann> dddude55_ yes
[07:10] <intelikey> to decode them
[07:10] <calvarez> ok, question: I have an nvidia card, and I want to install beryl, so I need a 1.0.9xxx nvidia driver. Do I have to install it manually (the one in the repos is 1.0.87xx)
[07:10] <dddude55_> darn, now i gotta go find waht repository has that
[07:10] <intelikey> kinda depends on the definition of "read"
[07:10] <dwidmann> !seveas
[07:10] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:10] <dwidmann> I think
[07:11] <intelikey> idk someone shot me a dirrect address and i just wgot the file...
[07:11] <intelikey> haven't used it tho.
[07:12] <kasper> !info audio
[07:12] <ubotu> Package audio does not exist in any distro I know
[07:12] <kasper> !info dpkg
[07:12] <ubotu> dpkg: package maintenance system for Debian. In component main, is required. Version 1.13.22ubuntu7 (edgy), package size 1587 kB, installed size 4892 kB
[07:12] <intelikey> !sound | kasper
[07:12] <ubotu> kasper: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:17] <Tido> how can I tell if my video card driver is correct?
[07:17] <flaccid> does it work?
[07:17] <dddude55_> ## comments out right?
[07:17] <Tido> well, it does display the image
[07:17] <Tido> but I've noticed things that just arent' right
[07:18] <Tido> for one, on bootup, the kubuntu splash looks horrible
[07:18] <flaccid> dddude55: in what language?
[07:18] <Tido> much worse than my laptop
[07:18] <intelikey> dddude55_  yes
[07:18] <dddude55_> umm kubuntu text files?
[07:18] <Tido> secondly, while this computer is much more powerful than the laptop, certain things are sluggish
[07:18] <Tido> like dragging a selection box
[07:18] <flaccid> depends what text file, but usually in config files its # or sometimes ;
[07:18] <intelikey> dddude55_ ah in that format it's all comment.
[07:18] <flaccid> Tido: what driver are you using for what card?
[07:19] <Tido> this is an Nvidia 6800GT, I tried doing the install that's in the WIKI HOWTO for nvidia binary drivers, but the xorg.conf it makes crashed X
[07:19] <Tido> so I had to reload the backup
[07:19] <Tido> when I look in system settings for display, it calls my card "nv"
[07:20] <intelikey> dddude55_ you mean #!/bin/sh ?   #!/usr/bin/perl ?   #!/usr/bin/python ?     or some configuration files in /etc/* ???
[07:20] <dddude55_> is it possible to go sudo after opening a file -
[07:20] <dddude55_> -_-
[07:20] <dddude55_> cause i dont wanna have to go finds it again lol
[07:20] <flaccid> dddude55: nope
[07:20] <dddude55_> says i dont have permission to save it
[07:20] <flaccid> unless the program can re-open the file for you under sudo/kdesu
[07:21] <flaccid> open it under root perms (sudo/kdesu)
[07:21] <intelikey> dddude55_ save as   and put it in your home dir.
[07:21] <dddude55_> i dont know how to open konqueror as root
[07:21] <dddude55_> err sudo
[07:21] <intelikey> then you can copy it over.
[07:21] <flaccid> Tido: i'm an ati guy, but a lot people don't like nv driver for some reason. check your /var/log/X* logs
[07:21] <Tido> ok, brb, restarting X
[07:21] <flaccid> dddude55: run kdesu konqueror
[07:22] <dddude55_> where is that at T_T
[07:22] <flaccid> huh
[07:22] <intelikey>  /home/YOUR_NAME/
[07:22] <dddude55_> idk im still a noob remember lol
[07:23] <flaccid> dddude55: if you install krusader you can easily right click and select edit as root
[07:24] <dddude55_> i did that just now lol
[07:24] <flaccid> cool
[07:24] <dddude55_> well from the home folder
[07:26] <dddude55_> adept loaded but never opened...
[07:26] <dwidmann> dddude55_: try again
[07:26] <dwidmann> sometimes it takes two or three tries ...
[07:26] <dddude55_> woot mp3's play
[07:27] <dddude55_> all i gotta do is get this wireless card working tomorrow, buy a cheap opticl mouse, and ill have a good linux laptop ^_^
[07:27] <flaccid> you can do a man hier
[07:27] <flaccid> like that page
[07:28] <intelikey> heh  in man hier           /dos   If both MS-DOS and Linux are run on one computer, this is a typ-
[07:28] <intelikey>               ical place to mount a DOS file system.
[07:28] <kasper> hahahhaa... root login are not alowed... sudo su... works
[07:29] <intelikey> sudo -i
[07:29] <intelikey> or sudo su -
[07:29] <kasper> yeah
[07:29] <kasper> very good
[07:29] <intelikey> but sudo su is redundant
[07:29] <Jucato> sudo -i
[07:29] <intelikey> see he agrees wif me
[07:29] <[Ag0ny] > hi for beryl help on kubuntu should i go somewhere else or is here fine?
[07:29] <kasper> hey guys... i need a video player with codecs? hints?
[07:30] <flaccid> there are some things you can do with a login shell that you can't via sudo
[07:30] <intelikey> !mp3 | kasper
[07:30] <ubotu> kasper: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:30] <intelikey> flaccid like what ?
[07:30] <flaccid> um trying to remember
[07:31] <flaccid> when you string commands together maybe
[07:31] <flaccid> need access to shell variables
[07:31] <flaccid> stuff like that
[07:31] <intelikey> flaccid that's what sudo -i is for
[07:32] <intelikey> maybe cant redirrect with it though ?
[07:32] <flaccid> hmmm maybe its something or maybe i'm totally wrong
[07:32] <intelikey> i'm not sure.    test    sudo -i   and echo boo > /testing
[07:32] <flaccid> yeah thats what i mean tfirst
[07:33] <flaccid> if you are calling a script for example and need su -c
[07:33] <flaccid> which uses a command like your exmaple
[07:33] <flaccid> and needs to be non-intractive
[07:33] <intelikey> i'm not sure. though that the -i doesn't cover that.
[07:33] <intelikey> su* doesn't work here so i can't test
[07:34] <kasper> arggg... to update the apt-get files, to get packages from the net? what command?
[07:34] <flaccid> i guess i run into the situation once a year or someshiz
[07:34] <flaccid> sudo apt-get update
[07:34] <intelikey> well su* doesn't work for anyone but root
[07:35] <dddude55_> i just did that command o_O
[07:36] <intelikey> my, what big errors you have grandma.
[07:36] <intelikey> all the better to.... never mind.
[07:37] <wright007> lol
[07:37] <dddude55_> is libdvdcss2 enough or do i need libdvdcss2-dev also
[07:37] <flaccid> um its enough but i think i recall some non dev situation where i needed -dev i guess won't hurt
[07:38] <dddude55_> ok ill just install both
[07:38] <dddude55_> not like they take a whole lot of space
[07:38] <intelikey> man they are huge.
[07:38] <dddude55_> download 50k, install 200k -_-
[07:38] <dddude55_> thats way huge
[07:38] <intelikey> grandma's errors...
[07:39] <dddude55_> lol untill i copy a dvd from my other comp i cant test wether that worked lol
[07:40] <dddude55_> the mouse issue almost caused me to give up on linux lol
[07:40] <intelikey> you should have.
[07:40] <dddude55_> but its most likely this old crappy laptop so...
[07:40] <dddude55_> o_O
[07:40] <dwidmann> o.O
[07:40] <intelikey> linux is bad.
[07:40] <dddude55_> its fun
[07:41] <intelikey> it requires a computer.
[07:41] <dddude55_> umm
[07:41] <dddude55_> ok
[07:41] <flaccid> could be either
[07:41] <flaccid> sadly you have much more issues to come yet
[07:42] <dddude55_> i like how it needs a password to cahnge anything important
[07:42] <dddude55_> i cant tell you how many times my siblings ruined our windows comps
[07:42] <dddude55_> no wireless card enabled so wireless assistant is closxing -_-
[07:43] <flaccid> yeah linux has security. weird hey :)
[07:43] <intelikey> i found a dependancy loop in dapper packages.     libgtk2* depends on libgtk-common* and vise versa  (may not be exact name)  can't install one because the other and cant install other cause of the one....
[07:43] <dddude55_> nice
[07:43] <dddude55_> install them together?
[07:44] <intelikey> yeah tried too
[07:44] <intelikey> that's where the loop started.
[07:44] <dddude55_> interesting
[07:45] <intelikey> dddude55_ i'm no expert but i do know about dpkg --force-all and things like that.    that particular loop shut me down this evening.
[07:46] <shinigami> hi, i keep getting a 'Asus ACPI: Error reading brightness' in my sony vaio laptop for kubuntu dapper /var/log/messages.. there's a screen poping up saying 'Adjusting brightness' and disappear randomly....what's wrong?
[07:46] <zeekstarr> is there a certain brand of wireless routers that works best with kubuntu?
[07:47] <wright007> I have a special mouse with Side buttons to move forwards and backwards. Anyone know how to enable that? It works fine in MSwindows, but not Linux...
[07:47] <dddude55_> oscar, you're a grouch!
[07:47] <dddude55_> bitch! I live in a F'in trash can!
[07:47] <intelikey> zeekstarr that Q might get better responce in #ubuntu
[07:47] <dddude55_> ...
[07:47] <flaccid> zeekstarr: no
[07:47] <dddude55_> dlink
[07:47] <dddude55_> ^_^
[07:47] <shinigami> any?
[07:47] <dddude55_> linsys sucks
[07:47] <shinigami> !sony
[07:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sony - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:47] <wright007> i use linsys, it works fine
[07:48] <shinigami> !sonyvaio
[07:48] <flaccid> anything is fine
[07:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sonyvaio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:48] <zeekstarr> cool
[07:48] <zeekstarr> thanx
[07:48] <wright007> I have a special mouse with Side buttons to move forwards and backwards. Anyone know how to enable that? It works fine in MSwindows, but not Linux...
[07:48] <intelikey> shinigami never seen the like
[07:48] <dddude55_> you're gonna have trouble with any of them lol
[07:48] <zeekstarr> netgear any good?
[07:48] <dddude55_> umm i have that on this mouse also
[07:48] <shinigami> could it be some acpi packages i never install??
[07:48] <dddude55_> i saw a link about it earlier
[07:48] <dddude55_> hold on
[07:49] <intelikey> shinigami when it popps up   use pstree to see what opened it.
[07:49] <intelikey> poppp'z up ?
[07:50] <dddude55_> gimme one more minute lol
[07:51] <wright007> ok
[07:51] <kasper> tem algum brasileiro aeee??!!!
[07:51] <ForgeAus> hey intelikey :)
[07:51] <intelikey> ForgeAus .
[07:51] <ForgeAus> sup?
[07:52] <intelikey> dnada
[07:52] <intelikey>  '
[07:52] <ForgeAus> did I tell you what the problem was with my kubuntu?
[07:52] <intelikey> no you did not.
[07:52] <shinigami> intelikey: it only comes out in a split-second.......
[07:52] <ForgeAus> (something had changed grub's menu.lst to open sdb2 as read only)
[07:52] <intelikey> or i forgot it.  one er tother
[07:52] <ForgeAus> when its read-write it works... (for the most part)
[07:53] <ForgeAus> its a bit flaky now tho
[07:53] <ForgeAus> I mean I ahve to manually set the swap partition on
[07:53] <ForgeAus> and kdesu has problems
[07:53] <ForgeAus> but most things at least run
[07:53] <intelikey> nice
[07:53] <intelikey> well considering
[07:53] <shinigami> intelikey: in my /var/log/messages its filled with 'viao kernel: [17195796.628000]  Asus ACPI: Error reading brightness
[07:54] <kasper> hey guys, i have a kubuntu DVD, and i have configured to get the installation files from this DVD, i want to configure to get from the net, and search with apt-cache from the internet? what to do?
[07:54] <dddude55_> wright007: i cant find it sorry
[07:54] <intelikey> shinigami hmmm that's acpi  but i don't know what to tell ya.
[07:54] <flaccid> !source-o-matic > kasper
[07:54] <Tido> meh, still no luck
[07:55] <wright007> aww
[07:55] <shinigami> intelikey: how do u log the pstree for something that comes out for 1 sec and disappear?
[07:55] <wright007> ty for looking
[07:55] <Tido> I've followed guides from the forums to install nvidia drivers from nvidia
[07:55] <ForgeAus> and I learnt stuff about Kubuntu along the way :)
[07:55] <wright007> what should i use to get started in a search?
[07:55] <Tido> but it just won't work unless I use nv, instead of nvidia :(
[07:55] <ForgeAus> (which is more valuable than having the system up and running...)
[07:55] <Tido> I'm using kubuntu 64 btw
[07:55] <intelikey> shinigami probably no need.  being that acpi is erroring on that note. i'd bet it's xinit calling it.
[07:55] <wright007> Tido, i have a Nvidia too. I'm almost convinced its hopeless
[07:56] <wright007> im getting an ATI card eventually
[07:56] <Tido> has anyone gotten this to work right?
[07:56] <shinigami> intelikey: ok....
[07:56] <intelikey> shinigami that's why i'm backing away slowly, and letting you explode on someone else.
[07:56] <dddude55_> wright007: well i found it while searching kubuntu forums for help with ksynaptic
[07:56] <shinigami> intelikey: let's say i wanna log what's happening on ps..are there any ways? hehe
[07:57] <dddude55_> so its in a post around there somewhere lol
[07:57] <shinigami> !acpi
[07:57] <ubotu> acpi: displays information on ACPI devices. In component main, is optional. Version 0.09-1 (edgy), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)
[07:57] <shinigami> haha
[07:57] <wright007> dddude55 ok, thanks for the start
[07:57] <shinigami> this problem had been hunting me for very long..zz
[07:57] <dddude55_> i need to get my wireless working but im too lazy lol
[07:58] <dddude55_> i know its gonna be hard
[07:58] <intelikey> shinigami you could loop it with a redirrect.    while true ;do pstree >> pstree.log ;sleep .5 ;done     and use ^C to kill it.   ^ == the control key
[07:59] <intelikey> or without the sleep .5 ;
[07:59] <intelikey> warning that will generate lots of data
[07:59] <shinigami> hey cool thanks
[07:59] <intelikey> np
[07:59] <wright007> goodnight everyone
[08:00] <Jucato> anyone running KDE 3.5.6 on kubuntu right now?
[08:00] <intelikey> chaw wright007
[08:00] <Jucato> need to do a harmless test
[08:00] <Jucato> hah
[08:01] <intelikey> (:
[08:01] <chavo> Jucato, iI am
[08:01] <Jucato> chavo: can you try to start kinfocenter from either Katapult or Alt+F2? do you still get the could not launch kdeinit message?
[08:02] <chavo> no starts right up
[08:02] <Jucato> ok thanks :)
[08:02] <chavo> :)
[08:02] <intelikey> so it's your system that's borked...
[08:03] <chavo> works on my edgy and my feisty system
[08:03] <shinigami> question..what is .sleep 5?
[08:03] <intelikey> pause half a second before continuing
[08:03] <Jucato> intelikey: huh?
[08:03] <intelikey> Jucato what ?
 so it's your system that's borked...
[08:04] <intelikey> oh you ought to know by now not to listen to my rambling.
[08:04] <Jucato> except when it's directed towards me :P
[08:05] <intelikey> why would you listen then...  you never did before...
[08:05] <intelikey> (:
[08:05] <Jucato> ha! I haven't put you yet in my /ignore list
[08:05] <Jucato> krap! why did I tell you that
[08:05] <intelikey> lol
[08:06] <intelikey> ja ja ja
[08:08] <intelikey> the british humour seems very dry.   especally when compared to those of us that laugh hard enough not only to slobber on our selves but also on those telling the joke...
[08:08] <Jucato> it's because you ain't Bri-ish
[08:08] <Flying_Eagle> makuseru, would help if you highlight me correctly ;)
[08:09] <Flying_Eagle> so: what did you do before this error appeared?
[08:09] <intelikey> Jucato ok. so i didn't tell that one right either.  you'll get one of these one of these days.
[08:10] <intelikey> Flying_Eagle was that for another channel ?
[08:10] <Flying_Eagle> intelikey, no
[08:11] <Flying_Eagle> intelikey, just some hours ago :D
[08:11] <intelikey> ah.
[08:11] <intelikey> i knew i hadn't see him say anything.
[08:11] <intelikey> seen
[08:12] <dddude55_> lol what not to do: run remote desktop, and connect to yourself at the same time
[08:13] <intelikey> dddude55 why not ?
[08:13] <intelikey> sounds like a good way to test it.
[08:13] <dddude55_> cause my comp lagged up and just kep printing the mouse cursor over and over
[08:14] <intelikey> oh....    heh
[08:14] <dddude55_> i ran both on the same comp
 shinigami probably no need.  being that acpi is erroring on that note. i'd bet it's xinit calling it. ==> if i wanna grep, what should i grep? pstree | grep init ?
[08:16] <intelikey> Jucato  what opens the little message windows ?
[08:16] <intelikey> kdialog ?
[08:16] <Jucato> which little message windows?
[08:16] <intelikey> shinigami try kdialog
[08:16] <intelikey> the little popup windows.
[08:16] <Jucato> but yeah, basically kdialog
[08:16] <Jucato> (some I think are knotify... but not sure)
[08:17] <dddude55_> boohahahaaa im contttrolinng the laaaaptop throough vvvvnc
[08:17] <intelikey> ah yeah   shinigami check for knotify too
[08:17] <dddude55_> can you tell
[08:17] <intelikey> nnooo  nnooootttttt reeeaallllyy
[08:18] <Jucato> nooooo
[08:18] <dddude55_> lol the connection was crappy...
[08:18] <dddude55_> i have a download and online game on the other comnp though so...
[08:19] <dddude55_> i can connect to this comp, but going the other way lkinux kept giving me errors
[08:19] <intelikey> don't even talk to me about band narrowness
[08:19] <dddude55_> ;P
[08:19] <dddude55_> 5Mbits
[08:19] <intelikey> 28k dialup.   need i say more.
[08:19] <dddude55_> 728k upload here lol
[08:20] <intelikey> !laugh
[08:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about laugh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:21] <intelikey> some times i wish the bot would mind his own binus
[08:21] <dddude55_> arg i forget how to get ubuntu to see my wireless card
[08:21] <dddude55_> or rather i never tried with this one
[08:21] <intelikey> !wifi | dddude55_
[08:21] <ubotu> dddude55_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:22] <dddude55_> thats convienent
[08:22] <intelikey> !thanks | dddude55_
[08:22] <ubotu> dddude55_: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[08:22] <Jucato> heh :)
[08:23] <intelikey> !botsnack | ubotu
[08:23] <ubotu> ubotu: Yum!
[08:24] <Eruantalon> damn mysql is a steaming pile of #)%#%
[08:24] <intelikey> steaming pile of meta chars ?
[08:24] <dddude55_> i broke konsole!!
[08:24] <dddude55_> lol
[08:25] <Eruantalon> WHY doesn't it ever work?
[08:26] <dddude55_> umm
[08:26] <dddude55_> sympothy?
[08:26] <intelikey> music to belay the anger ?
[08:27] <intelikey> dddude55_  no i'm fine.  but you could help Eruantalon
[08:27] <dddude55_> ok if the thing says that my wireless card should have been seen on install
[08:27] <dddude55_> why wasnt it
[08:27] <dddude55_> is it cause i formatted first?
[08:27] <dddude55_> guess i gotta d/l the driver?
[08:28] <intelikey> oh i don't know.  i've never played with wifi    but if you need a bash string i might be able to help you.
[08:29] <malik> i have sound problem with realplayer10 , when amarok or anyother audio application is open or running and i try to run realplayer 10 too, there is no sound in realplayer.............how can i fix it?
[08:29] <Eruantalon> apt-get remove --purge works for mysql also right?
[08:30] <intelikey> Eruantalon should
[08:30] <malik> i have sound problem with realplayer10 , when amarok or anyother audio application is open or running and i try to run realplayer 10 too, there is no sound in realplayer.............how can i fix it?] 
[08:31] <malik> !sound
[08:31] <intelikey> !sound | malik
[08:31] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[08:31] <ubotu> malik: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[08:31] <intelikey> malik repeting that often doesn't help
[08:32] <dddude55_> can i run a windows .exe in kubu
[08:32] <intelikey> with wine
[08:32] <intelikey> some .exe's not all
[08:32] <dddude55_> umm great something else i gotta install
[08:32] <intelikey> !wine
[08:32] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:32] <dddude55_> i just need the driver out of the .exe lol
[08:33] <intelikey> dddude55_ if you install windows can you run linux programs ?
[08:33] <intelikey>  not with out you install something else.
[08:33] <dddude55_> ;P
[08:33] <intelikey> dddude55_ oh uset extract it
[08:33] <intelikey> just
[08:33] <intelikey> where did uset come from.... ?
[08:34] <intelikey> oh no it's finally happened,  i'm writing code in my sleep now.
[08:34] <Eruantalon> When restarting mythbackend is it then supposed to say Could not open network socket?
[08:34] <dddude55_> ..
[08:35] <intelikey> dddude55_ unzip should be installed by default
[08:35] <dddude55_> ....
[08:35] <intelikey> dddude55_ unxip file.exe
[08:35] <intelikey> unzip
[08:35] <intelikey> eeek
[08:36] <kasper> what is the synaptic package manger?????
[08:36] <intelikey> one more ypto and im
[08:36] <intelikey> kasper adept ?
[08:36] <dddude55_> ark only does .rar's T_T
[08:36] <intelikey> for $200
[08:36] <dddude55_> synbaptik is a lil different then synaptic
[08:37] <dddude55_> err wtf
[08:37] <dddude55_> synaptic is a lil diff then adept*
[08:37] <kasper> okk
[08:37] <kasper> tnx
[08:37] <kasper> again
[08:37] <intelikey> !dpkg
[08:37] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[08:37] <intelikey> !adept
[08:37] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[08:38] <dddude55_> if i just installed wine, where would it be...
[08:38] <Jucato> in ~/.wine
[08:38] <Jucato> you use wine like "wine filename.exe"
[08:38] <intelikey> all over /usr and /var   but the executable/s in /usr/bin/
[08:39] <intelikey> but i don't know why you don't just extract the files
[08:39] <intelikey> dddude55_   unzip file.exe
[08:39] <intelikey> i guess he thought i was krazi or something.
[08:40] <dddude55_> ok
[08:40] <dddude55_> sorry lol
[08:40] <dddude55_> missed that part
[08:40] <intelikey> scroll up one page   it was headlines
[08:41] <intelikey> breaking news  <intelikey> dddude55_ unzip should be installed by default
[08:42] <dddude55_> i cant find the file that way lol
[08:42] <dddude55_> its on the desktop
[08:42] <dddude55_> wahts the path for that
[08:42] <intelikey> ~/Desktop/
[08:42] <dddude55_> ...
[08:42] <dddude55_> im so dumb
[08:42] <intelikey> case sensitive
[08:42] <Jucato> unzip... file.exe??
[08:42] <intelikey> Jucato yes
[08:42] <intelikey> self extracting archives
[08:43] <Jucato> oh...
[08:43] <intelikey> it a driver dl for windows something.exe
[08:43] <Jucato> O.o
[08:43] <Jucato> it's been a while...
[08:44] <dddude55_> im trying to get a driver for my wireless card out of an .exe
[08:44] <intelikey> and he wants the driver out of the .exe  so "just unzip it"
[08:44] <Jucato> oh ok
[08:44] <intelikey> and with all the clowning aroung behind me now...
[08:45] <intelikey> i think i'll turn around!
[08:45] <dddude55_> damn it
[08:46] <dddude55_> its in a bin file i think
[08:46] <dddude55_> theres only 5 files...
[08:46] <dddude55_> .bin .cat .inf .sys .txt and .exe
[08:46] <intelikey> .sys
[08:46] <dddude55_> .sys says its a win executable
[08:47] <flaccid> what card do you have, dddude55?
[08:47] <dddude55_> dwl-650
[08:47] <flaccid> brand?
[08:47] <dddude55_> the compatability site said it should be dete4cxted auto
[08:47] <flaccid> dlink?
[08:48] <dddude55_> d-link
[08:48] <flaccid> does it come up in dmesg?
[08:48] <dddude55_> havnt tried...
[08:48] <flaccid> is it supported in the wi-fi docs?
[08:48] <flaccid> or are you trying to use ndiswrapper?
[08:48] <dddude55_> yeah it said it is automatically detected
[08:49] <dddude55_> but the wireless assiasnt says there is no card
[08:49] <flaccid> in dmesg ?
[08:49] <dddude55_> i havnt tried anything yet
[08:49] <dddude55_> i was tryying to get the driver, if i need it...
[08:49] <dddude55_> how do i do dmesg
[08:49] <flaccid> a windows driver is not going to work on linux unless you use ndiswrapper but you probably don't
[08:49] <dddude55_> well it came up with alot...
[08:49] <intelikey> dmesg | grep -i net
[08:50] <flaccid> zeekstarr: http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=dwl-650+ubuntu&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[08:50] <flaccid> oops
[08:50] <flaccid> that was for dddude55
[08:50] <flaccid> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-8823.html
[08:50] <intelikey> not sure net is correct string to search for.
[08:50] <flaccid> and of course
[08:51] <flaccid> !wireless > dddude55
[08:51] <flaccid> i verified the results, intelikey
[08:51] <flaccid> http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/D-Link_AirPlus_DWL-650_on_Ubuntu_Linux_HOWTO
[08:51] <intelikey> ty
[08:52] <flaccid> hehe thats quite alright
[08:54] <shinigami> hey, how do u repeat the last command in vi? like :s:hi:bye
[08:54] <shinigami> without to press : up-key enter
[08:59] <intelikey> tell the command to repete
[08:59] <dddude55_> if i just want to see ath0 in dmesg
[08:59] <dddude55_> how do i do that
[08:59] <shinigami> its n or / (enter)
[08:59] <shinigami> dmesg | grep ath0
[08:59] <dddude55_> ty ty
[09:00] <shinigami> welcome
[09:00] <dddude55_> its not seeing it
[09:00] <dddude55_> i took it out and put it back in, could that be a problem?
[09:00] <intelikey> shinigami you can also tell the command to repete for ever instance
[09:00] <dddude55_> when i say that command it brings up another command prmpt
 i took it out and put it back in, could that be a problem? <<< what kind of card ?
[09:01] <dddude55_> pcibuss
[09:01] <intelikey> pcmcia ?
[09:01] <dddude55_> a laptop wireless card
[09:01] <shinigami> oh i think i got it.. its :%s/hi/bye/gc
[09:02] <flaccid> dddude55: ifconfig -a
[09:02] <flaccid> or actually in dmesg. dmesg | grep ath0
[09:02] <dddude55_> eth0 l0 and sit0
[09:02] <flaccid> heh sorry shinigami i didn't see your response
[09:02] <shinigami> is ath0 in your /etc/network/interfaces
[09:02] <dddude55_> ill check
[09:03] <shinigami> flaccid: its ok hehe
[09:03] <dddude55_> yeah
[09:03] <kasper> i'm trying to update my sources.list, but... how to see my kubuntu version???
[09:03] <dddude55_> auto ath0
[09:03] <dddude55_> iface ath0 inet dhcp
[09:03] <shinigami> try... ifup ath0
[09:04] <dddude55_> which did you instal kasper ^_^
[09:04] <intelikey> shinigami i dont use vi but that looks a lot like a sed string   so that's probably right.
[09:04] <shinigami> do ifdown ath0 too
[09:04] <shinigami> and ifup again
[09:04] <shinigami> u know.. hehe
[09:04] <kasper> i only want to know my kubuntu version...???
[09:04] <kasper> how??
[09:04] <flaccid> dddude55: did it come up at least in ifconfig -a ?
[09:04] <shinigami> cat /etc/issues
[09:04] <intelikey> lsb_release
[09:04] <dddude55_> auto ath0
[09:04] <dddude55_> iface ath0 inet dhcp
[09:04] <dddude55_> err my bad
[09:04] <intelikey> lsb_release -a
[09:04] <flaccid> kasper: lsb_release -a
[09:05] <dddude55_> no
[09:05] <dddude55_> nbot in ifcongif -a
[09:05] <flaccid> hehe there is one other standard file that should say release
[09:05] <flaccid> huh
[09:05] <dddude55_> ifup and down failed
[09:05] <shinigami> dddude55: what happen when u ifup ath0 ?
[09:05] <kasper> Description:    Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS
[09:05] <kasper> perfect!!
[09:05] <kasper> tnx again...
[09:05] <dddude55_> lol forgot sudo durr
[09:06] <shinigami> oh
[09:06] <shinigami> hee
[09:06] <dddude55_> ifup said no such device
[09:06] <dddude55_> sudo ifdown ath0
[09:06] <dddude55_> err
[09:06] <shinigami> try lspci
[09:06] <shinigami> see can see the device?
[09:06] <dddude55_> not configured
[09:07] <flaccid> if it doesn't come up in ifconfig -a then something else needs to be done
[09:07] <shinigami> is the card light up when u plug in?
[09:07] <dddude55_> yeah
[09:07] <dddude55_> lights up
[09:07] <shinigami> i mean..the card have a led light rite?
[09:07] <shinigami> k..
[09:07] <dddude55_> yes
[09:07] <dddude55_> im not sure about lspci
[09:07] <flaccid> well pcmcia != pci
[09:08] <flaccid> dddude55: did you follow the guides i posted
[09:08] <dddude55_> they didnt really say to do much flaccid
[09:08] <dddude55_> just like 5 guys saying how do you do it
[09:08] <shinigami> oh it shd be lspcmcia
[09:08] <shinigami> hee
[09:08] <flaccid> your 2nd statement contradicts the first
[09:08] <flaccid> there looked like sufficient instructions to me
[09:09] <dddude55_> no saying, 'how do i do it'
[09:09] <shinigami> where's the site?
 your 2nd statement contradicts the first   <<< no
[09:09] <dddude55_> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-8823.html
[09:09] <flaccid> so they don't say much to do, but it tells you how to do it hmmm
[09:10] <intelikey> "how do you do it?"    would not answer  "how do you do it?"
[09:10] <shinigami> confusing
[09:10] <dddude55_> lol
[09:10] <flaccid> does it really matter?
[09:10] <intelikey> symantic.   i'll hush.
[09:10] <dddude55_> but the one guy said expert install
[09:10] <flaccid> dddude55: you been using iwconfig with it. looks like you can..
[09:10] <dddude55_> i didnt see an expert install option for kubu
[09:10] <flaccid> sudo iwconfig ath0 list scanning
[09:11] <dddude55_> all that through scanning, type ?
[09:11] <flaccid> huh
[09:11] <dddude55_> unrecognized wireless request list
[09:11] <intelikey> dddude55_ the "expert" install is only on the "alternate install" cd.  not on the live CD
[09:11] <dddude55_> oh lol
[09:11] <flaccid> maybe i had the command wrong
[09:11] <intelikey> not relevent either.
[09:12] <flaccid> sorry its sudo iwlist scanning
[09:12] <dddude55_> ath0 no such device
[09:12] <flaccid> its quite relevant ...
[09:12] <flaccid> driver is not loaded then or firmware is not loaded
[09:12] <flaccid> try just iwconfig what you get
[09:12] <flaccid> it will check each net dev to see if it supports wireless requests
[09:13] <dddude55_> no wireless extensions accross the board
[09:13] <flaccid> ok
[09:13] <flaccid> you will need to get the driver loaded properly before you can access the interface
[09:13] <dddude55_> crap
[09:14] <shinigami> iwconfig u can't even see ath0 ?
[09:14] <flaccid> did you follow this, dddude55 at all : http://stef.tvk.rwth-aachen.de/~nazgul/debian/DWL-650+_Howto.html
[09:14] <dddude55_> nope
[09:15] <shinigami> haha....
[09:15] <flaccid> might be a good place to start
[09:15] <flaccid> doesn't look like dlink is that easily supported as others
[09:15] <intelikey> nope to which ?
[09:16] <Jucato> -_-
[09:16] <dddude55_> i said no to shini
[09:16] <intelikey> i thought so.
[09:16] <flaccid> here is another good howto. this is probably the best, dddude55: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=296179&highlight=dwl-650
[09:16] <shinigami> dddude55: ic..u try the instructions on the site
[09:16] <flaccid> it always pays to search :)
[09:17] <intelikey> never pays me....
[09:17] <shinigami> dddude55: apt-get install acx100-firmware blahblah
[09:17] <intelikey> oh sorry i said i'd hush.
[09:17] <flaccid> this could also be the problem: The DWL-650 was manufactured by D-Link at different times, using 4 different chipsets. The above howto is for dwl650's that have a Prism 2-2.5 chipset. Some dwl650's have a ralink chipset, some dwl650g's have an atheros chipset, etc etc.
[09:18] <intelikey> so lshw | less   and see which chipset ???
[09:20] <intelikey> any win-modems supported in linux ?
[09:20] <flaccid> and yeah i've officialy decided to never buy dlink again. heh but i'm on a dlink router atm
[09:20] <shinigami> anyone set up dual wan routers before?
[09:20] <intelikey> i asked first !
[09:20] <cpk1> k3b has no problem burning dvds but gets angry when i try to burn a cd? only error output i get seems to be this: Error trying to open /dev/hdc exclusively (Device or resource busy)... retrying in 1 second.
[09:21] <shinigami> haha gets angry
[09:21] <flaccid> hmmm did you google that one cpk1
[09:22] <intelikey> also if you've got the little stupid icon on the desktop about the cdrom  you have that problem
[09:22] <shinigami> do u mean when its mounted ?
[09:22] <intelikey> yes
[09:23] <intelikey> if the icon is there   "visable"  then kde is "using" the device.
[09:23] <cpk1> intelikey: huh? so kde is locking the device then?
[09:23] <dddude55_> i said edit as root and it wont let me save still
[09:23] <shinigami> hdc is harddisk or cdrom? harddisk right?
[09:24] <intelikey> not actually locking.  just using so you can't lock it
[09:24] <flaccid> really that sux if kde is like that dang
[09:24] <intelikey> shinigami i hope not.
[09:25] <shinigami> cpk1: did you run anything with k3b beforehand like burning a dvd, then get this error when switch to burning cd?
[09:25] <intelikey> shinigami if he's trying to burn an iso to an hd with k3b he's really gonna have trubble
[09:25] <cpk1> i was burning dvds all day yesterday and tonite i wanted to burn the fiesty iso
[09:25] <shinigami> ah! restart your computer might work..unless u know how to kill those processes using your hdc
[09:26] <intelikey> sudo fuser -k /dev/hdc      check the man page.
[09:26] <intelikey> i could be wrong.
[09:27] <shinigami> cpk1: maybe the fiesty iso is still being downloaded, that's why its being used up by another program? hehe
[09:28] <cpk1> intelikey: thanks, never used fuser before but that did the trick
[09:28] <intelikey> beets a reboot
[09:28] <intelikey> (:
[09:28] <cpk1> i suppose unmounting it and then remounting from a console would have probably done the trick
[09:28] <shinigami> haha!!
[09:29] <shinigami> reboot rocks
[09:29] <intelikey> reboot is for M$
[09:29] <cpk1> or just running cdrecord from a tty with x off
[09:29] <intelikey> they can keep it.
[09:29] <hyper_ch> hiho
[09:30] <intelikey> cpk1 yeah i use cdw  for that.
[09:30] <intelikey> and a script i wrote.
[09:31] <hyper_ch> intelikey: that's just a generell greeting :) actually I'm wondering if anyone has tried yet elbuntu
[09:31] <intelikey> didn't know there was such a creature
[09:32] <intelikey> el ?   is it sematic ?
[09:33] <shinigami> Enlightenment?
[09:33] <hyper_ch> intelikey: well, elbuntu is - as kubuntu used to be - a community project featuring the E17 desktop --> I heard that should be quite an eye candy
[09:33] <Bxnp> anybody worked with the program basket
[09:33] <intelikey> i C++
[09:36] <dddude55_> damn , i did what that site said and its still not working
[09:37] <contrast83> What's up, everyone...
[09:37] <dddude55_> ;P
[09:38] <intelikey> mike not much.
[09:38] <intelikey> you ?
[09:38] <hyper_ch> anyone got wow running through wine?
[09:38] <shinigami> what's the software to do port forwarding?
[09:38] <shinigami> hyper_ch: i got warcraft 3 running on wine
[09:38] <intelikey> bind ?
[09:39] <intelikey> !bind9
[09:39] <ubotu> bind9: Internet Domain Name Server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:9.3.2-2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 292 kB, installed size 724 kB
[09:39] <lucidity> help: what's the equivalent command of 'scandisk' on kubuntu version 6.10
[09:39] <hyper_ch> shinigami: unfortunately that's not quite the same
[09:39] <shinigami> hey i have bind
[09:39] <intelikey> lucidity for what fs   and why ?
[09:39] <flaccid> fsck
[09:40] <intelikey> flaccid but probably wants to use it on the mounted fs
[09:40] <lucidity> my hard drive got this: type the... command interpreter problem.  I need to run scandisk, but scandisk "cannot examine drive c"
[09:40] <flaccid> i don't think you can scan a mounted fs on linux?
[09:40] <lucidity> i need another scandisk type of program to check it, norton disk doctor is not an option for now
[09:40] <flaccid> umount the part and use fsck
[09:40] <intelikey> lucidity wait.
[09:41] <lucidity> tnx intelikey, i'm loading kubuntu boot cd on my other comp now
[09:42] <cpk1> hyper_ch: wine should be able to run wow fine, check the appdb at winehq.org
[09:42] <intelikey> "type the... command interpreter problem."  means it's not seeing the partition     or not reading the fs correctly one.
[09:42] <flaccid> if you have livecd thats a quick way to do it on unmounted
[09:42] <cpk1> tune2fs is an easy and quick way to
[09:42] <intelikey> lucidity what did you do that caused this ?
[09:43] <lucidity> i boot up changing cmos/bios to "auto" detect hard drive
[09:43] <hyper_ch> cpk1: in the german kubuntu channel someone has a problem getting he latest patches.. so I thought I might ask here
[09:43] <cpk1> but i think tune2fs is only for ext
[09:43] <lucidity> power failure :P
 tune2fs is an easy and quick way to <<< but  to what ?
[09:43] <lucidity> wait.. basically here's my problem...
[09:43] <flaccid> yeah only ext
[09:43] <cpk1> to check fs
[09:43] <lucidity> http://www.d-a-l.com/help/archive/index.php/t-931.html
[09:43] <lucidity> but im running win 98 (on my other comp)
[09:43] <flaccid> i don't think tune2fs fixes stuff
[09:43] <cpk1> intelikey: you use tune2fs to set number of mounts to 99 then on next reboot it will check the fs
[09:44] <shinigami> i've got a bind file that says shinigami               IN      A       192.168.2.14
[09:44] <shinigami> blah nvmind
[09:44] <flaccid> lucidity: this is not ##windows
[09:44] <lucidity> err.. what's fs? :)
[09:44] <intelikey> cpk1 wont affect this case.   not a linux partition.
[09:44] <lucidity> flaccid: i know, that's why i am using kubuntu to fix my hard drive
[09:44] <flaccid> file system
[09:44] <lucidity> i need a scandisk type of program that might work
[09:44] <flaccid> lucidity: boot off live cd and then run fsck
[09:44] <lucidity> tnx
[09:45] <cpk1> a normal configuration will check the fs every 20 or so mounts so setting to 99 would guarentee a fs check =P but tune2fs is only an ext tool
[09:45] <BishiNightBird> how do you call a parent classes functions in D?
[09:45] <Jucato> O.o
[09:45] <flaccid> i don't see how tune2fs fixes errors
[09:45] <cpk1> it doesnt
[09:45] <intelikey> cpk1   run tune2fs on a vfat partition and see what i'm saying.
[09:45] <flaccid> then why not just set pass to 1 in fstab ?
[09:46] <shinigami> how do u see what ports are forward to where? any commands?
[09:46] <intelikey> cpk1 you're all wet sony
[09:46] <flaccid> but yeah hes got a windows box
[09:46] <flaccid> so it doesn't matter
[09:46] <cpk1> because if you just have ext its pretty easy to just do tune2fs -c (or -C dont remember which) 99 and then reboot and that will force a fsck
[09:47] <flaccid> its easier to change pass to 1 in fstab, cpk1
[09:47] <BishiNightBird> wow... I just realized I asked that question in the wrong chatroom...
[09:48] <Jucato> yes you did
[09:48] <intelikey> -c sets the max counts before check    and -C sets the count number  but it's still irelevant here.
[09:48] <cpk1> then you actually have to open fstab and edit it and what not
[09:48] <flaccid> i can see how handy tune2fs can be
[09:48] <lucidity> okay wait guys. let me restart my problem (tnx for the help so far)
[09:48] <flaccid> cpk1 that shouldn't be hard. change 1 character
[09:48] <intelikey> cpk1 no that wont work either.
[09:49] <intelikey> well yes you could change the option to force checking every time.
[09:49] <flaccid> but sorry you have a windows box only, lucidity?
[09:49] <intelikey> but still why not just umount the thing and check it.
[09:49] <intelikey> save a reboot.
[09:50] <flaccid> could be the root filesystem?
[09:50] <lucidity> PC/ kubuntu NOT installed yet, currently running win98, but power got lost and now cannot reboot, getting command interpreter problem
[09:50] <intelikey> not if it's vfat
[09:50] <lucidity> yes i think its the root filesystem
[09:50] <flaccid> intelikey: not talking about lucidity here
[09:50] <cpk1> if its all on one partition, and I am only discussing ext here =P
[09:50] <lucidity> that's why i need to run 'scandisk' type of program because after using boot-up disk (win98), scandisk "cannot examine drive c"
[09:50] <flaccid> lucidity: like ive said 2 times now. livecd + fsck
[09:51] <lucidity> flaccid wait can i send you private msg so i wont' confuse other ppl?
[09:51] <intelikey> lucidity you need something like testdisk
[09:51] <flaccid> if you must
[09:51] <intelikey> fsck isn't likely to help that issue.
[09:51] <flaccid> why intelikey?
[09:51] <flaccid> isnt there fsck.vfat on ubuntu
[09:52] <lucidity> i can't find fsck :(
[09:52] <intelikey> it's not likely the fat  but the partition table that is corrupt
[09:52] <flaccid> you don't know until you scan it
[09:52] <lucidity> where can i download testdisk? testdisk.com?
[09:52] <flaccid> why don't you try my suggestion?
[09:52] <intelikey> if you scan the fs and it's the partition tabel that's hosed.  kiss your fs good bye
[09:53] <intelikey> but i'll hush again.
[09:53] <flaccid> not necessarily
[09:53] <flaccid> but fsck in read only mode aint going to do anything...
[09:53] <cpk1> my favorite is using smartmontools and then having it tell you your disk has less than 24 hours to live
[09:53] <cpk1> that thing is remarkably accurate
[09:53] <intelikey> lucidity  sudo apt-get install testdisk
[09:54] <cpk1> i know from experience >=|
[09:54] <flaccid> intelikey: can you do that on the livecd?
[09:54] <intelikey> yep
[09:54] <flaccid> cool that installs the the ramdisk or something?
[09:54] <lucidity> system settings/ Advanced/ Disk & Filesystems/ it showed my Disk "1 Partition 38.3 Gb /dev/hda1" so i hope that's good news kubuntu read my HD
[09:54] <cpk1> as long as you dont fill up your ram
[09:54] <intelikey> !testdisk
[09:54] <ubotu> testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.4.1-1 (edgy), package size 459 kB, installed size 1232 kB
[09:54] <flaccid> start scanning!
[09:54] <intelikey> ah you will have to enable universe first.
[09:55] <flaccid> you could do smartmontools fromt he livecd too. that will confirm if the hard disk is physically screwed or running out of spins
[09:55] <intelikey> yep        well "confirm"  mmmm  indicate.
[09:55] <hyper_ch> Seveas: is your server down?
[09:56] <aftertaf> hi all
[09:56] <flaccid> well anything thats not OK in smartmontools means that its a risk
[09:56] <intelikey> aftertaf can fix it.
[09:56] <aftertaf> i recently changed pc and have reinstalled ubuntu edgy... and ive got font problems... :/
[09:56] <intelikey> (:
[09:56] <aftertaf> loool
[09:57] <aftertaf> where can i make the fonts not appear all blocky and horrible?
[09:57] <aftertaf> Config> Appearance > foibnts... :) but what can I change, i think ive tried all the options...
[09:57] <intelikey> kcontrol     anti-aliasing ?
[09:57] <intelikey> change fonts ?
[09:57] <aftertaf> foibnts? hmmmm fonts i meant
[09:57] <aftertaf> i have done, but now its all plain and boring.
[09:58] <hyper_ch> anyone can ping mirror.ubuntulinux.nl?
[09:58] <intelikey> just ran me out of ideas.    that pointy clicky thingy    scares me.
[09:58] <aftertaf> whats best resolution 96 or 120? and should i change xorg.conf too for font order?
[09:59] <intelikey> font order in the file should make no differance what some never.
[09:59] <aftertaf> hmm something seems to have changed. quick reboot of x to test all :)
[09:59] <aftertaf> ok
[09:59] <intelikey> !fonts
[09:59] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[10:00] <intelikey> aftertaf see also ^
[10:00] <intelikey> or not.
[10:01] <intelikey> flaccid back to you.   i'm outa here for a spell.
[10:01] <intelikey> jucato take over.
[10:01] <intelikey> any body....
[10:01] <intelikey> (:
[10:01] <flaccid> thanks br0ther have a good one intelikey
[10:01] <dddude55_> my card is listed in the pcmia/config file -_-
[10:01] <flaccid> jucy is here for a shift :)
[10:01] <dddude55_> aint that a biatch
[10:01] <flaccid> dddude55: how did you go with the ubuntu howto
[10:02] <dddude55_> umm they didnt help
[10:02] <dddude55_> im still on 1 more
[10:02] <dddude55_> but its confusing
[10:02] <flaccid> persist and you may be successful
[10:03] <aftertaf> yeah, looking much sexier
[10:03] <aftertaf> antialiasing needed activating and x restarting :)
[10:03] <aftertaf> so. hows life?
[10:03] <shinigami> !portforward
[10:03] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up port-forwarding (for games, torrents, webservers) see http://portforward.com - also see !firewall
[10:03] <shinigami> !firewall
[10:03] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[10:04] <shinigami> !iptables
[10:04] <dddude55_> still doesnt see my card -_-
[10:04] <flaccid> life sux atm hehe
[10:04] <flaccid> nah its good
[10:05] <dddude55_> if i could get teh wireless working id be so happy lol
[10:05] <aftertaf> its random touch and go for me too.
[10:05] <dddude55_> mine doesnt use the prizm set
[10:05] <aftertaf> see, i just disappeared...
[10:05] <dddude55_> it uses the oricano or something
[10:06] <aftertaf> ntersil Corporation ISL3890 [Prism GT/Prism Duette] /ISL3886 [Prism Javelin/Prism Xbow] 
[10:06] <aftertaf> ^^mine
[10:06] <flaccid> hmm that could be the problem dddude55. aftertaf can you help dddude55 ?
[10:06] <aftertaf> what does lspci show you?
[10:07] <aftertaf> !wifi
[10:07] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:09] <dddude55_> i tried all that T_T
[10:09] <aftertaf> dddude55_: did you blacklist?
[10:10] <dddude55_> blacklist waht
[10:10] <dddude55_> i know my card used the oracano or something driver
[10:11] <aftertaf> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/IntersilPrism25Wavelan?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDevice%29
[10:11] <aftertaf> so why you mention prism?
[10:11] <aftertaf> what IS your card?
[10:11] <aftertaf> %lspci :)
[10:12] <dddude55_> oh its dwl-650
[10:12] <dddude55_> dlink
[10:13] <dddude55_> and i put those in the file only named blacklist right?
[10:13] <shinigami> wahaha!!
[10:13] <christoph> hi
[10:14] <shinigami> after upgrading from dapper to edgy, should change the xorg.conf /usr/share/X11/fonts/ files to /usr/share/fonts/X11, or else some application can get QfontLoader: Internal error
[10:16] <dddude55_> i blacklisted those and nothing changed
[10:16] <aftertaf> boing!!!!!
[10:17] <vikrant> manchicken: hi
[10:17] <dddude55_> lol this card is supposed to work right away -
[10:17] <dddude55_> -_-
[10:18] <vikrant> hi Bxnp
[10:18] <dddude55_> ill figure it out later
[10:18] <dddude55_> its already after 3am here
[10:18] <dddude55_> lata all
[10:18] <Bxnp> hi vikrant
[10:19] <Bxnp> how are you doing
[10:20] <vikrant> bxnp im fine thx
[10:20] <vikrant> how abt u?
[10:21] <Bxnp> just sending in a bugreport
[10:21] <aftertaf> ok nevermind
[10:21] <aftertaf> never got his lspci output
[10:22] <Bxnp> i just tried out a program called basket
[10:22] <Bxnp> do you know that program vikrant
[10:22] <GodFinger> I can't seem to connect to the ares network using Apollon on dapper drake. Any ideas? I have forwarded the port to guarddog...
[10:22] <vikrant> Bxnp: no what is it?
[10:23] <aftertaf> !google basket
[10:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about google basket - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:24] <Bxnp> let me send you a link vikrant
[10:24] <vikrant> thanks Bxnp
[10:24] <Bxnp> http://basket.kde.org/
[10:25] <vikrant> thanks
[10:25] <Jucato> !basket
[10:25] <ubotu> basket: User-friendly way to run programs and manage links in KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.0-6 (edgy), package size 334 kB, installed size 1176 kB
[10:26] <aftertaf> wow, get organised :)
[10:27] <Mightily-Oats> hey all... does anyone know a site that will tell me what each boot service does.. im looking to turn off all un-necessary services (trying for perfoemance.. not that kubuntu doesnt deliver ;) )
[10:28] <Mightily-Oats> ive been to the ubuntu forums.. the one there has services that arent listed in dapper
[10:28] <vikrant> Bxnp: just installed will advise of my views shortly thanks any other great apps u use?
[10:28] <aftertaf> try bum
[10:28] <aftertaf> not a site but a tool
[10:28] <shinigami> !startup
[10:28] <ubotu> To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[10:29] <shinigami> Mightily-Oats: i would like to know too.. let me know if u find out
[10:29] <Mightily-Oats> does bum give an explaination of the service im turning off? (i've just used sysv-rc-conf)
[10:29] <aftertaf> iirc, for dome yeah. for the others its manual time :) or googlage
[10:30] <Bxnp> i dont know if its a great app i hope so vikrant
[10:30] <aftertaf> s/d/s
[10:30] <Bxnp> it crashed overhere, but it could be a great app in kde4
[10:30] <Bxnp> would you like to write a review about this program vikrant
 sure.. the forum post ive already tried is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491
[10:31] <shinigami> k let me read
[10:31] <aftertaf> Mightily-Oats: any good info there? lokoing now
[10:31] <Mightily-Oats> im looking for one that goes into a bit more detail in some areas
[10:31] <vikrant> Bxnp: i dont know whether i am qualified but if u tell me how i most certainly will
[10:31] <Mightily-Oats> its pretty good.. but there are a few things im sure i can still squeez
[10:32] <aftertaf> anyone tried the looking glass from java?
[10:32] <Bxnp> ehm nevermind try out and let me know what you think of it
[10:32] <Bxnp> i will start it up again and hope it wont crash anymore :)
[10:32] <Bxnp> anyway i am gone
[10:32] <Bxnp> have to work
[10:33] <Mightily-Oats> btw.. that forum link i posted.. im using dapper.. so im not sure how it will go with edgy
[10:33] <aftertaf> or feisty :)
[10:34] <cj_> hello
[10:34] <Mightily-Oats> i wouldnt mind trying that... any better than edgy?
[10:34] <vikrant> hi guys i just need some info could u pls help?
[10:34] <cj_> hello sa inyo
[10:34] <aftertaf> ask away
[10:34] <GodFinger> I can't seem to connect to the ares network using Apollon on dapper drake. Any ideas? I have forwarded the port to guarddog...
[10:34] <vikrant> I am running Xp and Kubuntu edgy on my laptop
[10:35] <aftertaf> btw, is there any way to launch a task like apt, but restrict bandwidth? im lagging like mad here on 64k
[10:35] <vikrant> i was wondering if i should download and use fiesty alpha has anyone here used it? and how did u find using it?
[10:35] <cj_> somebody help me pls i'm having a problem with my ubuntu
[10:35] <vikrant> is there a real danger of losing my data?
[10:36] <cj_> thanks
[10:36] <aftertaf> either that or my wifi is dropping out all the time :/
[10:36] <Jucato> vikrant: it's still alpha
 sorry.. dont know about that one
[10:36] <vikrant> Jucato: so will it crash often?
[10:36] <Jucato> vikrant: not really good for day to day use unless you are very brave and willing to hunt down and report bugs
[10:36] <Jucato> vikrant: not really crash, as much as some things don't work after some upgrades
[10:36] <Jucato> you also have to upgrade often, almost daily
[10:37] <shinigami> Mightily-Oats: just installed sysv-rc-conf.. i just recently upgraded from dapper to edgy.. when i boot up i don't get into the log in screen until i press ctrl-alt-f7..so i'm looking at the startup heh
[10:37] <vikrant> Jucato: i dont mind upgrading it often, and reporting bugs is not an issue as i use an unlimited download 220 kbps connection
 cool... hope it helps.. as i said earlier though.. im not sure how well that how to will apply to edgy.. im not even sure it was ment for dapper (which is what im using)
[10:38] <aftertaf> argh!
[10:38] <aftertaf> in cyberspace no one can hear you lag
[10:38] <aftertaf> in cyberspace no one can hear you lag
[10:38] <aftertaf> in cyberspace no one can hear you lag
[10:38] <aftertaf> in cyberspace no one can hear you lag
 what lol
[10:38] <Jucato> aftertaf: please dont' do that again
[10:38] <cj_> any one know ubuntu pls
[10:38] <aftertaf> vikrant: im on feisty
[10:39] <aftertaf> Jucato: sorry.... i suddenly reconnected.....
[10:39] <Mightily-Oats> with feisty.. alpha bugs aside... will it have better laptop support than edgy?
[10:39] <aftertaf> vikrant: if you keep 3/4 kernels installed in case an udate doesnt boot, and you dont mind console from time to time to get X up again....
[10:40] <cj_> what is feisty?
[10:40] <Mightily-Oats> i had problems with laptop mode and hdd ticking with edgy.. hoping feisty will solve this :)
[10:40] <vikrant> aftertaf: thanks what kernels do u suggest?
[10:40] <aftertaf> !feisty
[10:40] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[10:41] <shinigami> (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom.. what's this?
[10:41] <flaccid> !baddevice
[10:41] <ubotu> If you are receiving an error similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168 then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[10:41] <flaccid> could be that shinigami
[10:41] <shinigami> oh!! btw, wacom is wireless is it? haha
[10:41] <cj_> ubotu hello
[10:41] <ubotu> hello: The classic greeting, and a good example. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1-4 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 472 kB
[10:42] <cj_> ubotu can you help me i'm having a problem with my frostwire??
[10:42] <aftertaf> vikrant: im on  2.6.17-10-generic
[10:42] <aftertaf> and ok.
[10:42] <aftertaf> 2.6.20 dopnt boot for me, for now.
[10:42] <aftertaf> trying to update, but 160Mb is taking all morning
 that error.. argh.. that annoyed me to no end at one stage.. it has to do with (from memory) drawing tablets.. but check ur /etc/X11/default-display-manager file and make sure its right
[10:42] <Mightily-Oats> in the xorg file there is an entry for a wacom device
[10:43] <flaccid> nope
[10:43] <shinigami> i think i'm going to delete the wacom stuffs in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:43] <Mightily-Oats> if your default display manager isnt right it drops out and on the screen u see the wacom stuff (from my experience.. im not a geek at this stuff)
[10:43] <Mightily-Oats> make a backup first
[10:43] <Mightily-Oats> when i deleted the wacom stuff i killed it
[10:44] <cj_> vikran
[10:44] <shinigami> ok i'm goign to reboot now to see if i'm stuck at the blank screen
[10:45] <Mightily-Oats> check the default-display-manager file
[10:45] <cj_> ubotu
[10:45] <cj_> mightily hi
[10:45] <ikasle2e> hijos de puta!!!!!!!!!!!!
 hi
[10:46] <cj_> ikasle2e are you pilipino
[10:46] <cj_> oats do you know ubuntu
[10:46] <almasdeturaza> i am el puto amo
[10:46] <almasdeturaza> kubuntu sux
[10:46] <Mightily-Oats> umm.. depends on which part of ubuntu ur asking about
[10:47] <cj_> ubuntu
[10:47] <flaccid> haha
[10:47] <cj_> Oats i'm using 6.10
[10:47] <cj_> can you help me pls.. thanks
[10:47] <oswaldo> angel friki
 what is it that you need help with?
[10:50] <cj_> how to run frostwire mightily
[10:51] <GodFinger> what do you guys think of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4KX7SkDe4Q
 ok.. whats the problem with it?
[10:51] <Dani> hello all
[10:52] <Dani> when i boot kubuntu 6.10 in vmware its says mixer not found and there is no sound
[10:52] <shinigami> ok u can't delete the wacom..i think its the mousepad/tablet on ur laptop
[10:52] <shinigami> !ati
[10:52] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:52] <christoph> hi, hat jemand eine ahnung wie ich kooka in die HP-Toolbox einbinde?
[10:52] <cj_> i could not open the frostwire after i install it
[10:52] <cj_> mighty
[10:53] <karmikaze> hello, does anyone here happen to have a linksys wifi card wmp54g?
[10:53] <karmikaze> im reading a lot of mixed messages regarding this cards workability in ubuntu
[10:53] <karmikaze> a lot of sites saying its supported, but a lot of horror stories on the forums about it not
[10:54] <cj_> karmikaze are from philippines
[10:54] <Jucato> ??
 whats the error?
 stop theif lol
[10:54] <GodFinger> yeah
[10:54] <Dani> can somebody help me the sound problem
[10:55] <shinigami> what
[10:55] <Dani> kubuntu 6.10 live cd boot in vmware default boot no mixer found
[10:55] <cj_> i could not open it mightile
[10:55] <GodFinger> there's also another video about Timbaland's plagiarism...
 look in your /etc/X11/default-display-manager... for kubuntu i think the entry should be /usr/bin/kdm
[10:55] <karmikaze> is there a way to change the default look for kdm?
[10:55] <shinigami> Mightily-Oats: it is kdm already..hehe i
[10:55] <karmikaze> kcontrol doesnt change it
[10:56] <shinigami> Mightily-Oats: it is kdm already..hehe i'm installing my ati drivers properly now.. i think its ati drivers problem
[10:56] <cj_> ok thanks mighty
[10:56] <Jucato> !changethemes | karmikaze
[10:56] <ubotu> karmikaze: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[10:56] <Jucato> karmikaze: scroll down to the part on KDM Themes
.. try that link http://torrentfreak.com/how-to-install-limewire-on-ubuntu-610-edgy-eft/
[10:56] <karmikaze> ok
[10:57] <cj_> thanks mighty
 this one might be better...... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=278134&highlight=frostwire
[10:58] <karmikaze> ah ha
[10:58] <karmikaze> so it is in kcontrol. its just different from the control centre....
[10:58] <ienik> hi folks
[10:58] <karmikaze> hi ienik
[10:59] <Jucato> karmikaze: well... in a way, yes.. due to a bug in System Settings on Edgy, you have to use kcontrol with kdmtheme
[10:59] <cj_> mighty i know the error i didin't command this (sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash)
[10:59] <shinigami> brb reboot
[10:59] <karmikaze> interesting
 so it works now?
[10:59] <cj_> thats why thers no display evrytime i open it
[10:59] <cj_> yes migthy
[10:59] <Mightily-Oats> cool
[11:00] <cj_> thanks to you mighty
 np.. have fun :)
[11:00] <karmikaze> ah cool!
[11:01] <karmikaze> i downloaded this kdmthemes ages ago
[11:01] <karmikaze> but i think i was using the other control centre not kcontrol so i never saw it
[11:01] <cj_> migthy from what contry you are do you have yahoo
[11:01] <Mightily-Oats> Oz.. no yahoo
[11:02] <cj_> so what messenger you are using
[11:02] <Jucato> karmikaze: you mean System Settings, right?
[11:03] <Mightily-Oats> dont really use a messenger
[11:03] <cj_> so what are you using
[11:03] <karmikaze> yeah well its the layout of the newer control centre, its very hard to navigate
[11:03] <Mightily-Oats> kvirc.
[11:03] <karmikaze> i prefer the old one
[11:04] <cj_> kvirc what that???mighty
[11:04] <Mightily-Oats> irc chat program
[11:04] <Jucato> !tab | cj_
[11:04] <ubotu> cj_: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[11:04] <flaccid> dpends on what irc client
[11:04] <karmikaze> visual irc for kde?
[11:04] <karmikaze> wow didnt know that existed
[11:04] <Jucato> heh no
[11:04] <cj_> jucato anong tab
[11:05] <Jucato> cj_: Tab key
[11:05] <Jucato> cj_: to autocomplete nicks in IRC
[11:05] <cj_> ah
[11:05] <cj_> so pilipino ka
[11:05] <flaccid> what is visual irc for kde?
[11:05] <cj_> jucato
[11:05] <karmikaze> kvirc
[11:05] <Jucato> cj_: yes, but please speak in English in here :)
[11:05] <karmikaze> i assumed
[11:05] <cj_> ok
[11:05] <cj_> i understand
[11:05] <Mightily-Oats> Jucato: thanks... didnt know that one... :) .. i can stop the copy and paste now :)
[11:05] <cj_> i'm just asking
[11:06] <Jucato> Mightily-Oats: heh :)
[11:06] <Jucato> cj_: oo pinoy ako (couldn't resist)
[11:06] <karmikaze> hrmm oats.. not a bad idea for breakfast
[11:06] <karmikaze> hehehe
[11:06] <Mightily-Oats> lol.. :p
[11:06] <cj_> thanks jucato
[11:07] <Jucato> kvirc = the K Visual IRC Client
[11:07] <karmikaze> yep
[11:07] <cj_> mighty how to use irc
[11:07] <karmikaze> i used virc waaaay back when i used to work at an internet cafe
[11:07] <Jucato> (which is not a part of the KDE project, but is a KDE app)
[11:07] <karmikaze> 2002
[11:07] <karmikaze> got into it then because xchat was and still isnt free for windoze
[11:07] <flaccid> is that what it means ok. gui. hmm
[11:07] <Mightily-Oats> i like the feel of kvirc...
[11:08] <karmikaze> yeah its pretty, very configurable
[11:08] <flaccid> konversation kills kvirc
[11:08] <karmikaze> hrm i only tried konversation once
[11:08] <Mightily-Oats> is that the default one in kubuntu
[11:08] <flaccid> hehe sweet jucy
[11:08] <Mightily-Oats> (this could be like emacs vs vi)
[11:08] <Jucato> yep
[11:08] <karmikaze> lol
[11:08] <flaccid> when will konvi get tcl/scripting?
[11:09] <Jucato> it also might be the default IRC client for KDE... but maybe not
[11:09] <Jucato> flaccid: it already does bash & python scripting
[11:09] <flaccid> really
[11:09] <flaccid> ah yeah
[11:09] <Jucato> wha? you didn't know?!?!
[11:09] <Jucato> :P
[11:09] <flaccid> Sysinfo for 'lister.dev.xhost.com.au': FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE running KDE 3.5.1, , HD: 8/43GB, , 114 proc's,
[11:09] <flaccid> there we go thats bash
[11:09] <Jucato> the /media script is python
[11:09] <flaccid> how do i do python
[11:09] <flaccid> ah ok
[11:10] <flaccid> uses dcop with amarok
[11:10] <Jucato> uhuh
[11:10] <flaccid> cool. need tcl now :)
[11:10] <Jucato> flaccid: file a wish or ask in #konversation :)
[11:10] <flaccid> i used script mirc on windows. heh cbf to script now but it would be nice
[11:10] <flaccid> i think i might
[11:10] <flaccid> it will distract me from doing work
[11:10] <Mightily-Oats> flaccid: how did u do the sysinfo thing?
[11:11] <Jucato> Mightily-Oats: /sysinfo
[11:11] <karmikaze> ewww mirc... i had to use that the other day. man that program is... :\ made me glad to use linux anyway...
[11:11] <Jucato> who would have guessed :)
[11:11] <flaccid> um /exec sysinfo
[11:11] <flaccid> sorry i'm not on kubuntu :)
[11:11] <Jucato> flaccid: um? no need for the /exec :P
[11:11] <Jucato> it's a Konvi default
[11:11] <flaccid> ah ok
[11:12] <flaccid> Uptime: 1 days, 2 hours and 47 minutes
[11:12] <flaccid> interesting
[11:12] <lucidity> hey guys
[11:12] <Mightily-Oats> flaccid: is there meant to be anything after the sysinfo ?
[11:12] <flaccid> FreeBSD lister.dev.xhost.com.au 6.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #0: Sun May  7 04:32:43 UTC 2006     root@opus.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386
[11:12] <flaccid> ah cool sweet thanks for reminding me of that Jucato
[11:12] <lucidity> hey flaccid, tried testdrive and it sort of worked out :)
[11:12] <flaccid> nope
[11:13] <Mightily-Oats> hmm... not working
[11:13] <flaccid> ah coolio. did you fsck as well ?
[11:13] <Mightily-Oats> oh well
[11:13] <Dani> anybody know about the vmware connect to host option. i never assigned a password such thing
[11:13] <flaccid> Mightily-Oats: have a look in the configuration of konversation
[11:13] <lucidity> im dumping the win98 OS on that HD now :)
[11:13] <flaccid> command aliases in the config
[11:13] <flaccid> lucidity: nice one !
[11:14] <lucidity> tnx guys, i'm still playing around with kubuntu so.. expect me to come back again with other questions :)
[11:14] <karmikaze> :)
[11:14] <Mightily-Oats> flaccid: rats.. im in kvirc
[11:14] <flaccid> ah ok
[11:15] <flaccid> thats why heeh
[11:15] <Jucato> rofl
[11:15] <eeos> hi everybody
[11:15] <Mightily-Oats> not fair.... lol
[11:15] <Jucato> btw, konvi also lets you use a background image, but only for the chat window itself
[11:16] <Mightily-Oats> this is all a ploy to get me to konvert lol
[11:16] <cj_> jucato do you know postfix
[11:16] <Jucato> cj_: um.. nope. sorry
[11:16] <flaccid> i do
[11:16] <Jucato> unless of course you mean, prefix, postfix, language stuff :)
[11:17] <cj_> i se up a postfix in centos server but i'm geting an error
[11:17] <cj_> postfix for e-mail servers
[11:17] <flaccid> you ask about centos here tisk tisk
[11:18] <Jucato> lol
[11:18] <Jucato> cj_: btw, there's an #ubuntu-ph channel for us Filipinos. it's a low traffic area, so don't expect much. :)
[11:19] <cj_> ok
[11:19] <karmikaze> man... reading ubuntu forums is really putting me off getting a wifi card...
[11:19] <karmikaze> i might have to fork out for another ethernet bridge
[11:19] <cj_> sorry  what that Jucato
[11:19] <Jucato> nvm :)
[11:19] <karmikaze> !ph
[11:20] <lucidity> hey jucato mabuhay
[11:20] <ubotu> Join #ubuntu-ph for tagalog
[11:20] <cj_> yes flaci
[11:20] <karmikaze> tagalog?
[11:20] <Jucato> heh :)
[11:20] <cj_> but how
[11:20] <Jucato> Mightily-Oats: easy on the scripts
[11:21] <Jucato> cj_: what do you mean?
[11:21] <karmikaze> is e17 ever going to go stable. i think i was looking at it this time last year, still nothings really changed
[11:21] <abattoir> cj_: /join #ubuntu-ph
[11:21] <Mightily-Oats> Jucato: got it working :).. sorry for the spam though
[11:21] <Jucato> cj_: or just click on the channel name
[11:21] <cj_> how to join #ubuntu-ph
[11:21] <karmikaze>  /join #ubuntu-ph
[11:21] <Mightily-Oats> karmikaze: im using it now... it seems stable... but still in alpha (like googles still in beta for most things lol)
[11:22] <karmikaze> haha
[11:22] <cj_> all this guys are pilipino
[11:22] <cj_> jucato
[11:23] <Jucato> cj_: I answered you in #ubuntu-ph. yes
[11:23] <karmikaze> i think thats the idea cj_
[11:24] <graniti> hi. if i do "sudo su", it ask me the password. But if i do "su myuser" soon after, and then again "sudo su" it doesn't ask me the password again... why? thnks
[11:25] <karmikaze> lol
[11:25] <ienik> graniti: coz you are root at this time.. and root doesn't need passwords
[11:25] <flaccid> sudo remembers your pass for like a period of time
[11:25] <flaccid> oh yeah
[11:25] <graniti> flaccid: and how can I set that this period must be 0 ?
[11:25] <flaccid> if you change user then yeah
[11:25] <flaccid> sorry
[11:25] <flaccid> heh confusing
[11:25] <graniti> ok
[11:25] <flaccid> man sudo ?
[11:26] <flaccid> don't use su basically
[11:26] <graniti> flaccid: already seen
[11:26] <flaccid> configure sudo
[11:26] <ienik> period is setuped to 28 days in woman world.. in the man world - it was never measured
[11:26] <flaccid> um google it
[11:26] <flaccid> huh
[11:26] <flaccid> um bad joke you
[11:27] <eeos> ienik daily?
[11:27] <ienik> who knows..
[11:28] <flaccid> minutly
[11:29] <Mightily-Oats> wonder how shinigami is doing with his reboot
[11:29] <flaccid> maybe man sudoers has more?
[11:33] <Mightily-Oats> anyone else using kubuntu on a laptop (dapper or edgy)?
[11:33] <eeos> Mightily-Oats yes
[11:33] <flaccid> yep
[11:33] <Mightily-Oats> have you configured any powermanagement features.. or hdparm settings?
[11:33] <karmikaze> graniti: btw i wouldnt sudo su, then su back to yourself. use ctrl+d or exit to logout of the root session. su'ing around all over the place can get a bit messy in certain applications
[11:34] <eeos> Mightily-Oats hdparm: no, powermanagement: which ones?
[11:34] <eeos> Mightily-Oats: frequency or hibernate / suspend?
[11:35] <Mightily-Oats> im looking to get my laptop running cooler... hdd gets to about 50-58 degrees.. and processor is anywhere from 40-60 degrees
[11:35] <karmikaze> hibernate did bad things to my harddisk on my laptop :|
[11:35] <Mightily-Oats> so i guess im looking at throttling.. and minimising running things
[11:35] <eeos> Mightily-Oats what processor?
[11:35] <eeos> karmikaze like?
[11:36] <eeos> Mightily-Oats lspci --vv in pastebin purrrrlease!
[11:36] <karmikaze> like making me run fsck and it erroring through a bunch of times, then the problem mysteriously going away after two days and not doing the fsck...
[11:36] <Mightily-Oats> sorry for the spam again..
[11:36] <eeos> Mightily-Oats ach! experience only on amd processors sorry.
[11:36] <flaccid> celsius or stupid farenheight
[11:36] <Mightily-Oats> celsius
[11:37] <flaccid> thats is very cool Mightily-Oats
[11:37] <Mightily-Oats> it is?
[11:37] <flaccid> star worry when it gets to 85 degrees
[11:37] <flaccid> hell yeah
[11:37] <Mightily-Oats> oh... ok
[11:37] <eeos> Mightily-Oats it does not sound terribly hot to me, is nearly that hot outside. :P
[11:37] <Mightily-Oats> eeos: ur from oz too lol
[11:37] <flaccid> so am i heh
[11:37] <eeos> :D
[11:37] <Mightily-Oats> i was getting a bit paranoid that it was getting a bit hot
[11:38] <Mightily-Oats> esp the hdd
[11:38] <karmikaze> just make sure youre not blocking the fan when youre using it
[11:38] <eeos> Mightily-Oats I would not say it is really.
[11:38] <eeos> Mightily-Oats good advice karmikaze
[11:39] <Mightily-Oats> i have had to use hdparm to specify the spindown and disable apm (it kept ticking other wise .. like it was powering down and then resuming all the time)
[11:39] <karmikaze> i almost wish they didnt have so much to choose from on kdelook... wasting so much time here lol
[11:39] <eeos> Mightily-Oats how do you measure the temperature ?
[11:39] <xsacha> aus ftw
[11:40] <Mightily-Oats> fan wont be blocked.. im in the process of building a laptop cooler (i know u can but them.. but i havent found any that fit my laptop)
[11:40] <Mightily-Oats> temp... using gkrellm
[11:40] <Mightily-Oats> and hddtemp
[11:40] <Mightily-Oats> but was meant to be buy
[11:42] <eeos> Mightily-Oats do not they have pop up alert? set a pop up alert, better than nothing, but would not go for automatic hibernating or suspend.
[11:42] <Mightily-Oats> eeos: pop up alert?
[11:43] <Mightily-Oats> im not sure
[11:43] <Mightily-Oats> u mean gkrellm?
[11:44] <eeos> brb
[11:44] <karmikaze> ok going to test the state of my graphics drivers :| hopefully brb
[11:44] <Mightily-Oats> ok. have fun guys
[11:46] <crazy_penguin> hello
[11:49] <eeos> re
[11:49] <eeos> karmikaze which drivers
[11:53] <Alarm> hello is it possible just to have an application to copy-paste file in a dvd-rw ? instead of using k3b for example
[11:53] <cj_> hello
[11:54] <me06bic> someone fr sweden here
[11:54] <cj_> mighty how are you
[11:56] <cj_> bye evryone
[11:56] <abattoir> !se
[11:56] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[11:56] <abattoir> me06bic: ^^^^ might find people there
[11:58] <voicu> suppose i want to forward everything from a router to another computer, how do i do that?
[11:59] <sebbar> !feisty
[11:59] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[12:01] <voicu> Can I forward all internet traffic to another machine? To make it look like the one behind the router has the external ip address..
[12:02] <karmikaze> back
[12:03] <steven_> anyone know how to convert photoshop brushes into gimp brushes?
[12:03] <ForgeAus> damn AROS doesn't have .deb packages
[12:05] <ForgeAus> !aros
[12:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aros - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:05] <ForgeAus> awww its an AmigaOS free desktop system
[12:08] <steven_> anyone know how to convert photoshop brushes into gimp brushes??
[12:08] <kasper> hi all.. again... LOL
[12:08] <ForgeAus> steven try googling it? there might be info on there
[12:08] <abattoir> steven_: asking a question repeatedly w/i short intervals does not guarantee an answer
[12:08] <abattoir> steven_: http://www.gimptalk.com/forum/topic/tutorial-How-To-Convert-Photoshop-Brushes-4349-1.html
[12:09] <kasper> hey guys... KUBUNTU 6.06 RULEZZZ!!
[12:09] <kasper> MIDI??? how to??
[12:09] <ForgeAus> personally I like 6.10 but yeah Kubuntu rules :)
[12:09] <kasper> i need a midi mapper!! i hope!
[12:09] <ForgeAus> MIDI, theres midi stuff
[12:09] <abattoir> i guess that's a bit 'windowsish' though
[12:09] <steven_> i did...i only get tutorials for windows:S like the one abattoir just gave me
[12:10] <ForgeAus> hehe abattoir, yeah but I like windows too
[12:10] <abattoir> steven_: have you tried running them under wine?
[12:10] <steven_> abattoir: i cant get wine to work either:S
[12:10] <kasper> to i forget windows, i need only a MIDI player and Skype
[12:10] <ForgeAus> both are functional under linux
[12:10] <ForgeAus> but they may take some work
[12:11] <abattoir> steven_: what happens? doesn't run?(wine)
[12:11] <steven_> nope..doesnt run
[12:11] <ForgeAus> try it from a konsole window and see if theres an error message
[12:11] <abattoir> steven_: what error?
[12:11] <treat> burning dvds doesn't work any more =( growisofs always fails at 20%
[12:11] <treat> http://pastebin.com/872650
[12:12] <abattoir> ForgeAus: aah, i meant the tutorial, not kubuntu ;)
[12:12] <steven_> nothing i just dont know how to start it
[12:12] <abattoir> steven_: have you installed it?
[12:12] <steven_> yes of course...but it doesnt show on menu
[12:12] <ForgeAus> hehe its ok abattoir I'm an equal opportunity OS enthusiast
[12:13] <flaccid> hehe
[12:13] <flaccid> thats why i'm on freebsd :)
[12:13] <ForgeAus> I like PCBSD sofar
[12:13] <ForgeAus> its almost better t han my Kubuntu!
[12:13] <flaccid> did i suggest that to you ?
[12:13] <flaccid> or did i suggest it to someone else?
[12:14] <flaccid> FreeBSD lister.dev.xhost.com.au 6.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #0: Sun May  7 04:32:43 UTC 2006     root@opus.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386
[12:14] <flaccid> thats what i'm using
[12:14] <ForgeAus> plus some of the packages I havn't seen for linux (although most would probably work I just didn't have any link/package list to them
[12:14] <abattoir> steven07: you generally execute it through 'wine <file>.exe' on the command line
[12:14] <ForgeAus> like AROS for example :)
[12:14] <abattoir> steven07: programs installed through wine make it into the menu though
[12:15] <ForgeAus> abattoir they do? I know in crossover office they do... wines?... interesting....
[12:15] <abattoir> ForgeAus: i have wine apps on my menu
[12:15] <ForgeAus> (I thought it might have been an added feature)
[12:15] <ForgeAus> brb
[12:16] <abattoir> ForgeAus: there is a subentry for 'Wine'
[12:16] <flaccid> ForgeAus: when is IE7 going to be useable in wine heh
[12:16] <karmikaze> LOL
[12:17] <ForgeAus> no idea but I wouldn't count on it soon
[12:17] <flaccid> they should hurry up on that hey
[12:17] <flaccid> it couldn't be that hard
[12:17] <ForgeAus> surely XPsp2's ie would have to come first? :)
[12:17] <flaccid> i'm a webdev and need it to save rebooting into windows at work
[12:18] <flaccid> i believe its just some dlls from sp2
[12:18] <flaccid> or something like that
[12:18] <zorglu_> q. is there a doc on how to get IDN hostname support in ubuntu ? when i do ping myhostname, ping display the ascii version instead of the idna
[12:18] <abattoir> http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/news/28
[12:18] <ForgeAus> you could always use win4lin (or win4bsd) or VMware for ie7 in linux!
[12:18] <ForgeAus> Qemu and/or Xen and/or VirtualBox are other options
[12:18] <flaccid> um
[12:18] <flaccid> you can't do it
[12:19] <flaccid> under qemu
[12:19] <flaccid> as windows guest os from fat partition
[12:19] <flaccid> well the boot sector there
[12:19] <flaccid> i think xen was a negative
[12:19] <flaccid> don't know about th eothers
[12:19] <flaccid> have you got any of them doing guest os from separate fat partition (ie. from a dual boot system)
[12:21] <flaccid> brb ForgeAus
[12:22] <kasper> RULEZ!!!
[12:22] <kasper> hehehe
[12:22] <kasper> now i'm downloading acrobat reader
[12:22] <kasper> do you know filetype CHM??
[12:22] <kasper> some program that open that kind of file?
[12:23] <waylandbill> kchmviewer
[12:23] <linopil> ubuntu samba printer sharing in five minutes ? howto ?
[12:25] <linopil> what is in /var/lib/samba/printers
[12:35] <jkjk> Hi! Weird thing: I can log into an ftp server using konqueror but not using "ftp" in the shell. (DEFINETLY the same logindata...) Any clues ?
[12:37] <ienik> jkjk: is it public ftp? or just your home ftp?
[12:37] <jkjk> ienik: it's the ftp of my webhoster
[12:38] <kasper> try "ftp username@ip"
[12:38] <ienik> jkjk: and what the "ftp" utility say when you try to log in?
[12:39] <steven_> anyoe here know how to convert photoshop brushes into gimp ones?
[12:40] <jkjk> kasper: Results in "Unknown server error"
[12:40] <jkjk> ienik:530 Login incorrect.
[12:41] <ienik> hmh... bad.. so send mail to you web-hosting admin or hack webserver and look into logs by yourselve to save your time
[12:42] <kasper> no no no
[12:42] <kasper> maybe the username being passed wrong
[12:42] <ienik> jkjk: try another ftp client - for example ncftp of gftp or pftp (the latest one has nice switchable options when connecting, so you can try fast various connection options)
[12:43] <ienik> kasper: jkjk told that the login data was the same.. so i hope that this is not the issue :) (but like my friend always say - dont believe to the users - they lie!) :)
[12:44] <jkjk> well i actually need "ftp" to use it in a batch file.. and konqueror works so...
[12:44] <ienik> jkjk: try lftp - its scriptable too (i mean - you can use it in batch file)
[12:44] <kasper> jkjk: enter "ftp", after enter "user"
[12:44] <jkjk> I don't save logindata (using kwallet or anything) and a tried like 10 times so i'm sure i used the same logindata
[12:44] <kasper> it will raise the error
[12:45] <kasper> but will stay in the "ftp"
[12:45] <kasper> will not exit after login unsuccessfull
[12:46] <kasper> you have to pass to the ftp, by command user inside the ftp, the username that you have to use
[12:46] <jkjk> same result with lftp
[12:47] <ienik> jkjk: weird
[12:48] <waylandbill> you don't have something odd like spaces in the name or password do you?
[12:48] <jkjk> kasper: still can't login (same error)
[12:48] <kasper> ok
[12:48] <kasper> dont exit ftp
[12:48] <kasper> write "user" inside the ftp
[12:48] <jkjk> waylandbill: nope
[12:49] <kasper> "user username"
[12:49] <jkjk> kasper: it asks me for my username, so i enter my ftp login name. it then asks for the corresp. pass. i enter my ftp pass but i still get "530 Login failed" after that
[12:50] <kasper> hmmmm... maybe two connections by same ip??
[12:50] <kasper> "lftp -u marcelocamiseiro www.marcelocamiseiro.com.br"
[12:50] <jkjk> waylandbill: i do have a couple of non alphanumeric chars so..
[12:50] <kasper> here it works
[12:50] <zorglu_> q. is there a doc on how to get IDN hostname support in ubuntu ? when i do ping myhostname, ping display the ascii version instead of the idna
[12:51] <jkjk> kasper: if there were too many connections, i guess konqueror couldn't connect either..
[12:52] <waylandbill> what kind of alphanumeric? like _ ?
[12:52] <jkjk> waylandbill: ,@ and $
[12:52] <waylandbill> you have an @ in your username?
[12:52] <jkjk> waylandbill: no
[12:53] <karmikaze> using fish:// just did something very bad to my nat...
[12:53] <karmikaze> i cant get my other machine online #
[12:53] <kasper> ok... have you tryed LFTP? using -u username?
[12:53] <waylandbill> well.. I know what alphanumeric is.. I want to know an example of one in your name.
[12:53] <jkjk> kasper: yes
[12:53] <cntb> !konqueror
[12:53] <kasper> tell us the hostname
[12:53] <ubotu> konqueror: KDE's advanced file manager, web browser and document viewer. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 1953 kB, installed size 5280 kB
[12:53] <jkjk> waylandbill: those are the ones in my pass
[12:54] <karmikaze> i shut down konqueror and rebooted my box and it still wont connect to my network...
[12:54] <cntb> konqueror  where do I change identification in Inet so konqueror works ok in gmail?
[12:55] <kasper> hey jkjk
[12:55] <kasper> what means ftp error 530?
[12:55] <kasper> google
[12:55] <jagreen> Hello all =)
[12:55] <waylandbill> yeah.. it shouldn't matter what is in the password as much as the username. :-/
[12:55] <jkjk> kasper + waylandbill: ok figured it out: i can't have "" in my password i removed it (via webinterface) and i can login!
[12:56] <waylandbill> is that high ascii character?
[12:56] <craftycorner> I found I'm not deleting my trash
[12:56] <jkjk> still weird because that means konqueror can handle different passwords than ftp/lftp
[12:56] <craftycorner> how do i do so
[12:56] <craftycorner> perminantly
[12:57] <kasper> i hope you have done something wrong
[12:57] <craftycorner> from /root/.local/share/Trash/files
[12:57] <jkjk> waylandbill: i think 0x15
[12:57] <kasper> i have tested lftp -u username ip
[12:57] <kasper> and runned right
[12:57] <jkjk> kasper: did you have  "" in the pass ?
[12:58] <waylandbill> I think special characters must be xml valid.
[12:58] <kasper> no, only alphanumeric
[12:59] <craftycorner> how do you perm delete files as root?
[12:59] <kasper> rm
[12:59] <craftycorner> rather than move files from bin to bin
[12:59] <waylandbill> no... _ is not alpha numeric and I'm sure that works.
[01:00] <kasper> ok ok
[01:00] <waylandbill> nope. that's incorrect... it looks like only @,#,$ are only valid for pw's
[01:00] <jagreen> I recently have a little problem. The other day i bought a amd2500+ and a sata hard disk of 250gb. My problem is that with kubuntu 6.06 and 6.10 the SO dont recognize the Sata disk
[01:01] <jagreen> Someone happened this before?
[01:01] <jagreen> I supposed so ^_^
[01:01] <kasper> jkjk: why you dont use konqueror?
[01:01] <waylandbill> I've never made one that wasn't alphanumeric, so this is the first time I've even heard of such a limitation. :-D
[01:02] <waylandbill> he wants to ftp in a batch.
[01:04] <craftycorner> hello?
[01:04] <jkjk> kasper: cause i'm scripting it
[01:04] <craftycorner> am i in the right forum?
[01:05] <karmikaze> delete as root
[01:05] <karmikaze> what are you trying to delete
[01:05] <karmikaze> rm filename
[01:05] <craftycorner> that's right.  I've hundreds of files
[01:05] <craftycorner> months old
[01:05] <karmikaze> what kind of files
[01:05] <karmikaze> your users files?
[01:06] <karmikaze> or system files
[01:06] <craftycorner> video, media, junk
[01:06] <karmikaze> and what exactly do you want to do
[01:06] <craftycorner> stuff I put in my waste baskit, delete, but aren't deleted!  just found them!
[01:06] <karmikaze> empty your trashbin
[01:06] <craftycorner> in there
[01:06] <Kasper2007> jkjk : PVT PVT
[01:07] <craftycorner> the trashbin's saying it IS empty
[01:07] <karmikaze> oooh
[01:07] <karmikaze> i know what you mean
[01:07] <karmikaze> it does those soddy little dotfiles
[01:07] <jkjk> Kasper2007 : ?
[01:07] <karmikaze> when you delete everything, it doesnt really delete
[01:07] <craftycorner> dats right
[01:07] <karmikaze> well i'd go to the location in the terminal
[01:07] <Kasper2007> jkjk: double click on my nickname
[01:07] <craftycorner> how
[01:07] <Kasper2007> to private chat
[01:08] <karmikaze> hrmm dont know where the trashbin is exactly
[01:08] <karmikaze> oh
[01:08] <karmikaze> i see it
[01:08] <karmikaze> ~/.Trash
[01:08] <karmikaze> cd ~/.Trash
[01:08] <Kasper2007> very good
[01:08] <karmikaze> ls -la
[01:08] <karmikaze> that will show you ALL files in the trash
[01:08] <karmikaze> even the hidden ones
[01:08] <larson9999> with all the 'glass' coming, how long will i be able to keep my opaque windows?
[01:09] <karmikaze> is there stuff in there? or are all the files hidden inside the directories they were originally from?
[01:09] <craftycorner> bash: /home/craftycorner/.Trash: No such file or directory
[01:09] <karmikaze> hrm
[01:09] <craftycorner> they're in files.
[01:09] <karmikaze> hrm
[01:10] <karmikaze> in konqueror you can show hidden files
[01:10] <karmikaze> then just remove those ones that are hidden
[01:10] <karmikaze> brb network issue
[01:10] <craftycorner> the prob is when you remove, they end up inthe bin
[01:10] <karmikaze> fish:// dangerous...
[01:10] <Kasper2007> jkjk: are you there?
[01:11] <karmikaze> there should be a permenantly delete option craftycorner :/
[01:11] <jkjk> kasper: my nick isn't registerd so i can't send priv msgs...
[01:11] <karmikaze> i dont know really, dont use the gui that often
[01:11] <jkjk> Kasper2007: but anyway: Thanks for the offer but i got it working now... as i said just needed to remove that character from my password
[01:11] <Kasper2007> type /msg nickserver register NEW_PASSWORD
[01:11] <Kasper2007> OK
[01:11] <Kasper2007> type /msg nickserv register NEW_PASSWORD
[01:12] <Kasper2007> it will register your pass
[01:12] <Kasper2007> hmmmm
[01:12] <Kasper2007> maybe the encoding... the problem with the FTP
[01:12] <larson9999> with windows requiring 2 gb to run decently, will computers start shipping with that automagically?
[01:13] <jkjk> Kasper2007: yeah but i don't want this nich anyway :) Well i don't run the ftp server so no idea. But i can use a differnt char instead of  - no probem..
[01:13] <Kasper2007> OK
[01:14] <Kasper2007> i have problem with my MIDI yet
[01:14] <waylandbill> larson9999: heck no. that's called an upgrade. :-)
[01:15] <karmikaze> hey anyone here know how to save your iptables permenantly?
[01:16] <craftycorner> trying to get into my trashbin in konsol, can't
[01:16] <craftycorner> access denied
[01:16] <craftycorner> bash: cd: /root/.local/share/Trash: Permission denied
[01:17] <jkjk> karmikaze: service iptables save
[01:17] <Kasper2007> !info media
[01:18] <ubotu> Package media does not exist in any distro I know
[01:18] <karmikaze> craftycorner: on the terminal do this: sudo ls -la /root/.local/share/Trash
[01:18] <karmikaze> see if anything is in there
[01:18] <Kasper2007> !info codec
[01:18] <ubotu> Package codec does not exist in any distro I know
[01:18] <karmikaze> ty jkjk
[01:18] <Kasper2007> how to ubotu tell me where i can go to help me with my midi
[01:19] <karmikaze> craftycorner: if stuff is in there then sudo rm /root/.local/share/Trash/*    -- but someone should really be able to tell you how to do this graphically.
[01:20] <craftycorner> doing a paaaste dump...
[01:21] <cntb> printer on ubuntu must print for other PC (windows) on samba sharing
[01:21] <cntb> what is /var/lib/samba/printers/W32X86 in smab sharing ?
[01:21] <cntb> smab = samba
[01:21] <craftycorner> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3673/
[01:22] <Kasper2007> somebody know how to configure MIDI sound on kubuntu 6.06
[01:22] <Kasper2007> ??
[01:25] <craftycorner> rm: cannot remove `/root/.local/share/Trash/*': No such file or directory
[01:25] <craftycorner> what the...??????
[01:26] <cntb> can konqueror use activeX ?
[01:26] <ForgeAus> probably not
[01:26] <zorglu_> cra
[01:26] <ForgeAus> ies4linux probably can
[01:26] <cntb> ForgeAus:  ?
[01:26] <ForgeAus> but konqueror is nicer
[01:26] <zorglu_> craftycorner: the file you are trying to remove doesnt exists
[01:26] <zorglu_> cntb: no
[01:26] <cntb> ForgeAus: answering me?
[01:26] <karmikaze> craftycorner: try   sudo rm -r /root/.local/share/Trash/files
[01:26] <ForgeAus> cntb I'm only guesing
[01:26] <ForgeAus> but yes
[01:27] <karmikaze> try the same for info if that works
[01:27] <karmikaze> but i have a feeling you shouldnbnt be doing any of this
[01:27] <karmikaze> your local files should not go to root
[01:27] <boris_> je tu niekto zo slovenska?
[01:27] <boris_> :)
[01:27] <cntb> ok so I asked the guy how to workaround gmail wanting  IE or firefox. told me change browser ID
[01:27] <craftycorner> I know that...I don't konw how they got there...
[01:27] <karmikaze> hey people, only one light is lighting up on my onboard ethernet port...
[01:27] <karmikaze> does that mean im screwed?
[01:28] <karmikaze> i was working happily all morning
[01:28] <cntb> now konqueror identifies as IE6 but lacks activeX what is the use
[01:28] <karmikaze> then it suddenly died while using konqueror fish://
[01:28] <cntb> millions ppl use gmail
[01:28] <ForgeAus> what do you mean whats the use?
[01:28] <cntb> get that pals ?
[01:28] <ForgeAus> Konqueror is very useful
[01:28] <ForgeAus> its a great internet browser and file manager, what more do you want?
[01:28] <cntb> ForgeAus: to the point read above pls
[01:29] <cntb> read abover again ForgeAus
[01:29] <ForgeAus> cntb about activeX? why need it?
[01:29] <cntb> pls ignore me you are not reading above
 Konqueror is very useful <-- not for gmail yahoo!mail and many other sites
[01:30] <ForgeAus> hmmm
[01:30] <ForgeAus> brb i'll ch eck
[01:30] <ForgeAus> havn't tried yahoo mail or gmail with it yet
[01:30] <cntb> tyvm
[01:30] <cntb> knew that
[01:31] <ForgeAus> I'm assuming firefox woul dhave the same problem under Linux
[01:31] <cntb> nope
[01:31] <cntb> dont assume
[01:31] <craftycorner> gotta go
[01:32] <ForgeAus> you can change your browser idengification
[01:32] <cntb> explore learn try share ! pls dont answer when in doubt
[01:32] <cntb> bye craftycorner
[01:33] <ForgeAus> yahoo mail does still work
[01:33] <ForgeAus> (you just have to use the older interface thats all
[01:33] <cntb> fyi ForgeAus gmail has a basic view which lives OK without activeX
[01:33] <craftycorner> bye bye, I'm too much of a newbie to try to answer anyone...:(
[01:33] <ForgeAus> then what are you winging about?
[01:33] <cntb> right
[01:34] <cntb> winging or whining ?
[01:34] <cntb> stop annoying me
[01:34] <ForgeAus> whinging? I dunno...
[01:34] <ForgeAus> my speling sux sometimes
[01:35] <ForgeAus> not wing as in fly, whinge ? (sp?) like whining...
[01:36] <larson9999> ForgeAus: there are many sites konqueror, doesn't work with that firefox will.  opera for that matter.  sure, the fault of the evil sites.  still if you want those sites, konqueror doesn't help much
[01:36] <cntb> anyone familiar with samba printing in ubuntu?
[01:36] <ForgeAus> larson... theres even more that it does work with
[01:37] <ForgeAus> besides you can probably get an activeX plugin if absolutely necessary
[01:37] <ForgeAus> I know mozilla has some but I'm not sure if they're only for windows OS's or not
[01:37] <larson9999> ForgeAus: lol.  sure.  the point is that if you use lots of those sites, those two browsers don't get the job done.
[01:38] <ForgeAus> then ies4linux should do the trick
[01:39] <luke_> what do I do with a .diff file?
[01:39] <larson9999> ForgeAus: no.  firefox does the trick.  that's the point
[01:39] <ForgeAus> firefox has ActiveX?
[01:39] <cntb> ForgeAus: dont know your age. still let me tell you . konqueror developers took for linux KDE t the way  M$ took for WINDOWS EXPLORER /Internet Explorer  , that is one app for both OS file services and for Web browsing and network including FTP samba and stuff
[01:39] <larson9999> time to make the doughnuts.
[01:40] <ForgeAus> if thats true it means Konqueror can have it built in possibly in the future...
[01:40] <grimreaper> hi
[01:40] <grimreaper> kann mir jmd helfen?
[01:40] <karmikaze> how do you know when a NIC has died???
[01:40] <cntb> activeX is a M$ stuff so a understand few ppl care about M$ stuff on linux
[01:40] <ForgeAus> cntb yes kde's konqueror is like that
[01:40] <ienik> grimreaper: kann, aber in english bitte :)
[01:40] <ForgeAus> has most file management/web browsing functionality
[01:40] <cntb> !de | grimreaper
[01:40] <ubotu> grimreaper: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:40] <ForgeAus> and a little more
[01:40] <bronze_0_1> does anyone know if there is a ticket tracking system for kubuntu that can be installed via apt-get install?
[01:40] <ForgeAus> note I said MOST
[01:41] <grimreaper> thx
[01:41] <karmikaze> i can ping 127.0.0.1 but cant ping anything else
[01:41] <luke_> what do I do with a .diff file?
[01:41] <ForgeAus> I care about microsoft stuff! I'm not anti M$!
[01:41] <karmikaze> and i cant ping the box from another one on my network
[01:41] <ForgeAus> I'm mostly a linux newbie myself!
[01:41] <ForgeAus> but seemt o be learning some things fairly fast
[01:42] <ienik> grimreaper: whats your problem?
[01:42] <cntb> anyone familiar with samba printing in ubuntu?
[01:42] <ienik> luke_: man patch
[01:42] <ForgeAus> does cups deal with samba?
[01:42] <luke_> ienik: thanks
[01:42] <Mak1> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[01:42] <Mak1> err:wgl:X11DRV_WineGL_InitOpenglInfo  couldn't initialize OpenGL, expect problems
[01:42] <Mak1> err:wgl:has_opengl Intialization of OpenGL info failed, disabling OpenGL!
[01:42] <Mak1> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[01:42] <Mak1> err:wgl:X11DRV_WineGL_InitOpenglInfo  couldn't initialize OpenGL, expect problems
[01:42] <Mak1> err:wgl:has_opengl Intialization of OpenGL info failed, disabling OpenGL!
[01:42] <Mak1> I don't know what the above means, but that's my problem.
[01:43] <Mak1> Wine claims such.
[01:44] <waylandbill> Mak1: looks like you don't have direct rendering
[01:45] <Mak1> So what do I do to correct that?
[01:45] <Makitk> Better than having a number in my name.
[01:46] <waylandbill> what video card driver are you running?
[01:46] <ienik> :)
[01:46] <Makitk> Nvidia thing stuff.. bla
[01:46] <waylandbill> with the binary driver or the open one?
[01:47] <Makitk> o.o;
[01:47] <Makitk> I have -no- idea
[01:47] <luke_> what have I done wrong here? patch -p0 ./kxdocker114a-compiz.diff
[01:48] <Makitk> nvidia-glx, nvidia-kernel-common
[01:48] <Makitk> Those seem installed.
[01:48] <ienik> luke_: depends on where you are (pwd) and what you want to patch (i mean - where is located the target which you want to patch)
[01:49] <Makitk> I got an ASUS V9950 GeForce FX 5900 videocard.
[01:49] <stefan_> !winmail.dat
[01:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about winmail.dat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:49] <ienik> luke_: go to the target directory (for example /usr/src/linux-2.6.19 :) ) and patch this directory using patch -p1 < /path/to/patch/linux-keylogger-patch.diff
[01:50] <waylandbill> Makitk: did you follow the wiki's instructions for the binary driver?
[01:50] <Makitk> Eh?
[01:50] <luke_> ienik: I am in the source directory of KXdocker and the patch is supposed to remove a beryl problem, I was just hoping to run  the patch and ./configure
[01:50] <Makitk> What wiki?
[01:50] <Makitk> The Kubuntu wiki?
[01:50] <ienik> luke_: and what the patch utility said? some error message?
[01:51] <luke_> ienik: it said nothing, it just took loads of time, and the patch is only small
[01:53] <ienik> luke_: patch [options]  [originalfile [patchfile] ]  <--- so i suppose that you had patch for more than one file... you run it and patch should say what it does (patching file x-y.... and so on) .. don't tell me that no output shows
[01:54] <bronze_0_1> does anyone know if there is a ticket tracking system for kubuntu that can be installed via apt-get install? (And all its dependencies?)
[01:54] <luke_> ienik: this is what I've done with it luke@Wraith:~/kxdocker/kxdocker-1.1.4a$ patch ./kxdocker114a-compiz.diff
[01:54] <Makitk> waylandbill: What wiki page do you want me to look at? Cause you've confused me.
[01:55] <luke_> ienik: and patch -p0
[01:55] <ienik> bronze_0_1: choose one (and next time - use google) http://linas.org/linux/pm.html
[01:55] <ienik> luke_: and patch utility just exit without any output?
[01:56] <waylandbill> Maktik: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[01:56] <bronze_0_1> ienik: tried google, but google does not have domain spefic knowledge (people do)  There are a multitude of different ticket system out there and none of them say "This system can be installed by a simple apt-get instrall <packagename> on their web pages.
[01:57] <luke_> ienik: no, I pressed ctrl + c after about five minutes of waiting
[01:57] <Makitk> o.o
[01:57] <ienik> luke_:  ah.. it waited for patch in standart output probably (coz you entered just name of [originalfile .... )
[01:57] <bronze_0_1> ienik: having built two vary large Sorce code control and configuration and issue treacking system freo a large tellecom company in the past - I want to avoid as much work as possible this time.
[01:57] <bronze_0_1> *source
[01:58] <bronze_0_1> ienik: Thats page is no help at all
[01:58] <luke_> ienik: do you have a website or something that could help me understand how patches and .diffs work?
[01:58] <ienik> bronze_0_1: depends on what you want from SCC/C&IT system ... if you want source code tracking and trouble ticketing system - just try TRAC - http://trac.edgewall.org/
[01:59] <bronze_0_1> I'm already ;ooking at track - Does anyone know if it can be installed via apt-get install?
[01:59] <bronze_0_1> *looking
[01:59] <ienik> luke_: of course... I am the google master :) -> http://www.linuxhq.com/patch-howto.html
[01:59] <ienik> anyone - use google first please :P~
[01:59] <bronze_0_1> (sorry for typos - recent spinal surgery, limbs flying around a bit)
[01:59] <contrast83> If any Beryl-SVN users are interested, I just put up a new Beryl splash screen. http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=52527&PHPSESSID=6d699a89c7faab3557103179ed4648a5
[02:00] <ienik> bronze_0_1: of course - you can install it by apt-get ... just try apt-cache search trac
[02:01] <bronze_0_1> ienik: their install procedure does not document that. I suspect it requires a lot of hand wqork. I was deperately hoping to find a system that could be entirely package managed by a good tool, (like apt-get :-) )
[02:01] <ienik> contrast83: i think that it would be antialiased (i mean the edges of the picture.. coz this looks sharp :) .. but anyway good work
[02:02] <bronze_0_1> apt-cache search trac yielded several hundred lines
[02:02] <bronze_0_1> no useful information
[02:02] <ienik> :P
[02:02] <crube> Does anyone know a torrent program I could use from both my windows and linux?
[02:04] <sebbar> hi, just to make sure... I can install the 32 bit version of ubuntu on a 64 bit processor right?
[02:04] <karmikaze> crube: azureus
[02:04] <bronze_0_1> apt-cache --names-only search trac   was better - only 63 lines
[02:05] <bronze_0_1> Aha ! Target aquired
[02:05] <karmikaze> wait no, i dont get your question
[02:05] <steven_>  anyone usee abr2gbr??
[02:06] <ienik> crube: first.. use google, than check your local google searcher (like me) -> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=88536
[02:07] <bronze_0_1> ienik: I am humbled before the greateness of apt-cache search. :-)
[02:07] <bronze_0_1> and your hints
[02:07] <ienik> bronze_0_1: congratulations
[02:07] <bronze_0_1> ienik: Thank you.
[02:07] <luke_> ienik: thanks a lot m8
[02:07] <ienik> bronze_0_1: np
[02:07] <ienik> :)
[02:08] <bronze_0_1> ienik: Thank you (for your help that is). You deserve the congratulations. not me
[02:08] <waylandbill> nothing like someone saying they are confused by a page of instructions, and I ask what is confusing exactly... maybe I can explain.. " I don't know... I didn't feel like reading it "
[02:08] <bronze_0_1> waylandbill: use more whitespace!
[02:11] <bronze_0_1> studies have shown that some people literally cannot get their eyes to track on a page of text which is too densly packed.  It is a form "target discrimination analysis".  Like birdflockds that wheel and dart together to confuse predators, the densely packed text prevents the reader from finding a "single place" to look at.  It affects approximately 4 to 7 % of the population.
[02:12] <waylandbill> bronze_0_1: I've heard that before.
[02:18] <ForgeAus> how do I fix:
[02:18] <ForgeAus>   apt-utils: Depends: libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.11 but it is not installable
[02:18] <ForgeAus>   aptitude: Depends: libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.11 but it is not installable
[02:18] <ForgeAus> ??
[02:20] <ienik> ForgeAus: check if you have this file in your distribution/version -> http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[02:20] <ForgeAus> ienik its not as simple as taht
[02:20] <ForgeAus> first of all they're both virtual packages that apt provides
[02:20] <ienik> ForgeAus: if yes, so you probably have wrong defined /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:21] <ForgeAus> if I get 6.3-6-3.11 it downgrades 6.4-6-1.1 which other dependant packages need
[02:21] <ienik> ForgeAus: virtual? what do you mean? you mean that you cannot install this packages? probably you already have apt-gutils installed :)
[02:22] <ForgeAus> I do have apt installed
[02:22] <ForgeAus> virtual packages are ones provided by another package (in this case apt)
[02:23] <ForgeAus> its all a big vicious circle
[02:23] <ienik> ForgeAus: i'm sure i don't understand... apt doesn't provide any package - it just looks in the cache, calculate dependencies and install/remove packages.. what you mean is probably that this application uses shared libraries with other applications.. ?
[02:23] <ForgeAus> I want to fix my kubuntu and get kubuntu-desktop back but to do that I need two different versions of apt at once but installing one upgrades/downgrades the other
[02:24] <ForgeAus> yes it does apt provides libapt-pkg-libc<version>
[02:24] <ForgeAus> (ie libapt* is a virtual package)
[02:24] <waylandbill> what's trying to bring in the older version?
[02:24] <ForgeAus> wayland some dependancy how can I tell?
[02:25] <johny454> hey guys, does someone know what's the default font in Kubuntu?
[02:25] <ForgeAus> all I know is it complains about what I don't have
[02:25] <ForgeAus> one way or the other
[02:25] <ForgeAus> if I upgrade its one set.. if I downgrade its the other set
[02:26] <waylandbill> oh... apt-utils and aptitude.
[02:26] <ForgeAus> possibly
[02:26] <ForgeAus> they're too strict in versioning :(
[02:26] <waylandbill> you need newer of those or older of the ones wanting the newer lib.
[02:26] <johny454> hey guys, does someone know what's the default font in Kubuntu?
[02:26] <ForgeAus> can I ignore the dependancies?
[02:26] <ForgeAus> wayland I have newer
[02:26] <ForgeAus> and it still says the older are uninstallable
[02:26] <ienik> johny454: isn't it DejaVu Sans?
[02:26] <ForgeAus> if I get the older it says the newer are uninstallable
[02:27] <ForgeAus> probably ienik... I'm not entirely certain but I think so
[02:27] <johny454> I messed something with fonts, I'll check
[02:27] <waylandbill> you got yourself into a pickle.
[02:27] <ForgeAus> wayland yeah
[02:27] <waylandbill> did you add some repos?
[02:27] <ForgeAus> can I somehow ignore the dependancies?
[02:28] <waylandbill> it sounds like you got too many or incorrect sources.
[02:28] <ForgeAus> I have edgy, edgy-backports edgy-updates and edgy-proposed (as well as an edgy security one... can't remember the name of it)
[02:28] <ienik> ForgeAus: --force-yes
[02:28] <ForgeAus> ok thanx
[02:28] <ienik> but!
[02:28] <ienik>               Force  yes;  This is a dangerous option that will cause apt to continue without prompting if it is doing some
[02:28] <ienik>               thing potentially harmful. It should not be used except in very special situations. Using force-yes can poten
[02:28] <ienik>               tially destroy your system! Configuration Item: APT::Get::force-yes.
[02:29] <contrast83> ienik, thanks for the input on the splash. i'm basically a GIMP newb. i tried smoothing out the edges and corners of the background by using the rectangle to cut and paste (using feather edges set to 100), but didn't really come up with anything satisfactory. how would I go about anti-aliasing them?
[02:29] <waylandbill> that's'll likely break stuff!!!
[02:29] <ForgeAus> it didn't work anyway
[02:29] <waylandbill> i don't know what edgy-proposed is.
[02:30] <ForgeAus> check it out
[02:30] <ForgeAus> !edgy-proposed
[02:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about edgy-proposed - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:30] <ienik> contrast83: i am not gimp guru :/ .. just play and people will get you feetback or help (but I am just only a feedbacker :)
[02:30] <ForgeAus> !repositories
[02:30] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:30] <ForgeAus> it should show up in there somewhere
[02:30] <contrast83> heh, ok. thanks.
[02:30] <waylandbill> bring it up.
[02:30] <waylandbill> bringing
[02:31] <contrast83> Does anyone know how to change the background color for tooltips in KDE?
[02:31] <Jucato> you can't. they're always yellow
[02:31] <Jucato> (afaik)
[02:32] <waylandbill> my guess is that the proposed is conflicting with the main... looking for what proposed contains right now
[02:33] <ForgeAus> can I install them individually? I have a list
[02:33] <ForgeAus> and just ignore the dependancy for the individual ones?
[02:33] <ForgeAus> because a newer one already exists
[02:33] <contrast83> Well, there must be a file somewhere telling it to be yellow, right? I'm a bit of a Linux newb, but that's my understanding as to how pretty much everything works.
[02:34] <ForgeAus> thats an interesting one contrast... it might be in a configuration file somewhere, but goodluck finding it!
[02:35] <waylandbill> ForgeAus: the proposed is what is conflicting.
[02:35] <ForgeAus> I'm fairly certain theres no gui tool that changes it (but if you find one let me know)
[02:35] <waylandbill> that's what is asking for the 6.4.6
[02:35] <Jucato> contrast83: unfortunately, not everything in Linux is in a config file. some are hard coded into the source code. like this one
[02:35] <ForgeAus> so bump off the proposed repos and try it?
[02:35] <ForgeAus> 6.4.6 is the one I got installed
[02:35] <ForgeAus> so I need to downgrade?
[02:36] <waylandbill> yeah.. for the aptitude and apt-utils
[02:36] <contrast83> jucato, thanks for the info...
[02:36] <contrast83> so i'm guessing if someone was determined, and knew what they were doing, they could alter the source and recompile?
[02:36] <waylandbill> ForgeAus: because they haven't been put into the proposed yet.
[02:37] <waylandbill> I'd disable that repo... unless you needed it for some reason.
[02:37] <ForgeAus> nope thats not it... python-apt requires 6.4.6 too and thats not in proposed (Because I blanked out that repos)
[02:37] <Jucato> contrast83: you could, but 1) you'd have to find out where the correct source code is (there isn't just 1 file) and 2) you'd have to know what changes to make
[02:38] <ForgeAus> unless one of my other repos' has it too?
[02:38] <waylandbill> where is python-apt from?
[02:38] <ForgeAus> brb trimming the repo tree
[02:38] <ForgeAus> I don't know
[02:38] <ForgeAus> I just know it was a depenacy its complainging about
[02:39] <contrast83> i see why no one here has bothered. heh.
[02:40] <contrast83> it's pretty weak that something as visible as the tooltip background isn't included in the color scheme.
[02:42] <ForgeAus> wait aptitude is complaining about dependancies but its already installed
[02:42] <ForgeAus> same with apt-utils
[02:43] <waylandbill> but it doesn't think it's the newest package.
[02:43] <ForgeAus> well it doesn't show theres any upgrades available in kpackage
[02:43] <ForgeAus> (my adepts broken because of this)
[02:44] <ForgeAus> in fact uninstalled along with ubuntu-minimal (but I managed to get ubuntu-minimal back)
[02:44] <ForgeAus> I don't get why it doesn't accept the newer packages tho
[02:45] <waylandbill> aptitude will offer suggestions to fix dependencies, but without knowing what happened and why, you'd be just guessing.
[02:45] <ForgeAus> yeah well mostly I am at that point.. just guessing
[02:45] <ForgeAus> and I don't really know what I did to mess it up
[02:46] <ForgeAus> it was a big upgrade that caused it
[02:46] <ForgeAus> but as to which specific packages? I didn't even look
[02:46] <wedgeV> my keyboards stops responding after i press one of the multimedia keys on my laptop (eg: increase volume, mute...)
[02:46] <ForgeAus> but after that it instructed me to do an apt-get autoremove that took out ubuntu-minimal
[02:46] <ForgeAus> (I managed to fix some of the problems
[02:47] <ForgeAus> but I still have a missing adept and some fstab issues
[02:48] <hammer2> how do i find get install this KDE 3.5.6 Released with Kubuntu Packages?
[02:50] <waylandbill> ForgeAus: I've never used autoremove before.
[02:50] <soulrider> hammer2: do "sudo aptitude update" and then "sudo aptitude dist-upgrade"
[02:50] <waylandbill> but I mainly use aptitude which knows what it can remove.
[02:50] <soulrider> that will downlaod all updates, if KDE 3.5.6 doesnt install, i will give you a repository that has it for sure
[02:51] <soulrider> waylandbill: i allways use aptitude
[02:51] <ForgeAus> wayland same with adept/dpkg those packages are the same ones
[02:51] <ForgeAus> (that it says are removable) its just something went wrong with my installation somehow
[02:51] <ForgeAus> and messed up the packages
[02:51] <ForgeAus> told it some of my base packages were somehow obsolete
[02:51] <ForgeAus> (hence the removal of ubuntu-minimal)
[02:52] <waylandbill> aptitude uses a different method to track what's removable than apt-get/adept
[02:52] <ForgeAus> oh ok
[02:52] <ForgeAus> I thought aptitude was just a front-end
[02:52] <waylandbill> it stores some sort of database that apt-get doesn't.
[02:52] <soulrider> i dont think so ForgeAus
[02:53] <soulrider> i heard aptitude handled dependencies better
[02:53] <hammer2> have to restartx after that right?
[02:53] <waylandbill> but it's search feature only searches short descriptions, not long ones like apt-cache
[02:53] <waylandbill> that's my beef about it. :-)
[02:54] <hammer2> cuz i did sudo apt-get update and upgrade and when i did 1 u said it didnt update further
[02:54] <soulrider> hammer2: maybe KDE is installed and you just need to restart X
[02:55] <soulrider> is uggets you do it now and see if you have the new version
[02:55] <hammer2> ok ill brb
[02:55] <jlarsson> i have kubuntu 6.06 how can i uppdate it to the newest version ?
[02:56] <soulrider> !upgrade | jlarsson
[02:56] <ubotu> jlarsson: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[02:56] <barosl> kubuntu doesn't make ".desktop" file!
[02:57] <barosl> any solution?
[02:57] <soulrider> follow that guide there
[02:57] <soulrider> barosl: what do you mean? you installed something and it doesnt create a shortcut in the kmenu ?
[02:57] <ForgeAus> hmmm dselect wants to remove :  apt-utils aptitude tasksel tasksel-data ubuntu-minimal when I choose the install option
[02:57] <barosl> ah sorry
[02:57] <barosl> ".directory" file
[02:58] <soulrider> sorry, i have to go now
[02:58] <soulrider> hope everyone solves their problems
[02:58] <soulrider> see ya
[02:58] <grimreaper> could someone give me the link for the german chanal plz
[02:58] <soulrider> !de
[02:58] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:58] <soulrider> just type ! and the country code
[02:58] <ForgeAus> hey Jucato :)
[02:58] <hammer2> ok it didnt update for me
[02:59] <hammer2> must be something im missing ive uncommented the sources.list
[02:59] <ForgeAus> maybe I should just wait till id o a feisty fawn dist-update?
[02:59] <jlarsson> i have kubuntu 6.06 how can i uppdate it to the newest version ?
[02:59] <kkathman> hammer2 you need to add the 3.5.6 repository, go to kubuntu.org and get that, put it in you sources.lst and re do the commands
[02:59] <jlarsson> how can i update it to adgy?
[02:59] <ForgeAus> jlarsson dist-update
[03:00] <n8k99_>  jlarsson you need to change dapper to edgy in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:00] <Jucato> hi
[03:00] <n8k99_> then dist-upgrade
[03:00] <ForgeAus> so the command line is: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:01] <n8k99_> but first you sudo apt-get remove kde-multimedia
[03:01] <ForgeAus> upgrade or update?
[03:02] <n8k99_> 1) remove lkde-multimedia 2) change sources.list 3) apt-get update 4) apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:03] <Jucato> why the need to remove kde-multimedia?
[03:03] <ForgeAus> there you go :) nice
[03:03] <Jucato> or kdemultimedia?
[03:03] <n8k99_> Jucato: can't remember why i stumbed because of that, but it always made things smoother for me
[03:04] <ForgeAus> btw Jucato you know that grub tutorial/help webpage... should it have setup (hd#) instead of setup (hd#,#) ? I ran into that trouble twice when my grub wasn't working
[03:04] <barosl> !ko
[03:04] <ubotu> For Korean help, /join #ubuntu-ko
[03:04] <n8k99_> going from dapper to edgy
[03:04] <ForgeAus> i was just thinking it'd help other people if the help was correct
[03:04] <Balsamic_Chicken> hey guys, how do u spell deteriate
[03:04] <Balsamic_Chicken> spell check keeps saying i have it wrong..
[03:04] <n8k99_> detoriate
[03:05] <barosl> kubuntu doesn't make ".directory" file! any solution?
[03:05] <ForgeAus> it makes a .desktop instead?
[03:05] <Jucato> ForgeAus: you can only install the bootloader into the mbr of a drive, hence (hdx) only, afaik
[03:05] <ForgeAus> I had that trouble I used krusader to get around it tho
[03:05] <Jucato> ForgeAus: unless you say (hdx,0) which always has the MBR of that drive
[03:05] <Jucato> not really absolutely 100% sure...
[03:05] <ForgeAus> Jucato maybe if you know the webmaster or knwo someone you can contact ot update it you should point out that flaw on the web page
[03:06] <Jucato> which web page?
[03:06] <ForgeAus> the recovery after install one you sent me to a few times
[03:06] <hammer2> says im missing keys?
[03:06] <Jucato> !grub
[03:06] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:06] <ForgeAus> (when my grub was non-fucntional)
[03:06] <ForgeAus> yeah that one
[03:06] <Jucato> that one, ForgeAus?
[03:06] <ForgeAus> if you look at it the setup line is hd(0,3)
[03:06] <ForgeAus> which is incorrect
[03:07] <ForgeAus> (should just be hd(0)
[03:07] <Balsamic_Chicken> detoriate? doesn't even sound right
[03:07] <Jucato> let me check
[03:07] <ForgeAus> oh wait its gota note after it
[03:07] <qbit> deteriorate
[03:07] <ForgeAus> I don't remember reading that bit
[03:07] <Jucato> :P
[03:07] <godhell> hello, i got abit of a problem, i accidently somehow took away the panel where the programs etc are locacted
[03:07] <godhell> Any ideas how to get it back?
[03:08] <Jucato> godhell: how did you take it away?
[03:08] <ForgeAus> sorry in that case its ok as it is
[03:08] <godhell> No idea, didnt even see how
[03:08] <Jucato> godhell: you mean the whole panel?
[03:08] <ForgeAus> my apologies
[03:08] <godhell> Yea, just dissapeared
[03:08] <godhell> I rebooted but that didn't help
[03:08] <ForgeAus> (either its been updated or I didn't notice the note)
[03:09] <Jucato> godhell: ok, first, press Ctrl+Esc and check if "kicker" is running
[03:09] <n8k99_> godhell the panel or the button?
[03:09] <godhell> n8k99_ whole panel
[03:09] <Jucato> ForgeAus: last edit was Jan 26, 2007 :)
[03:09] <Jucato> godhell: can you see kicker in the list?
[03:09] <ForgeAus> thats only a few days ago
[03:09] <godhell> Jucato, ok gonna try it, gotta logg onto the kde first
[03:10] <Jucato> godhell: Pressing Alt+F2 will give you a Run Command box where you can start up apps. in case you see that kicker isnt' running, press Alt+F2 and type in "kicker" (no quotes) to start is
[03:10] <Jucato> Kicker is theKDE panel
[03:11] <JohnFlux> Jucato: yo
[03:11] <Jucato> hi JohnFlux! :)
[03:11] <JohnFlux> Jucato: ksysguard now (unofficially) supports monitoring raid devices :-)
[03:11] <Jucato> in trunk, I presume?
[03:11] <JohnFlux> almost everything is there, I just need to tie it all together
[03:12] <JohnFlux> but it will mean that it will actually guard your system now :-)
[03:12] <Jucato> :D
[03:12] <JohnFlux> it will warn you when a raid device fails
[03:12] <Jucato> kool
[03:12] <JohnFlux> yeah trunk
[03:13] <Jucato> my hardware is soooo old fashioned...
[03:13] <JohnFlux> yeah it's a personal wish too - it's annoying having raid but nothing actually monitoring it :-)
[03:13] <godhell> yes the kicker is running
[03:13] <Jucato> godhell: hm.. so it's running *and* hiding...press Alt+F2, type in "kcontrol"
[03:13] <BluesKaj> Howdy all :)
[03:13] <JohnFlux> and you can read the raid information via dbus goodness, and monitor remote systems :-)
[03:13] <JohnFlux> Jucato: a hard disk fails on a server, and bingo kde tells you ;-)
[03:13] <Jucato> godhell: go to Desktop -> Panels and adjust the Arrangement (position) and Hiding
[03:14] <JohnFlux> *remote server
[03:14] <godhell> okok
[03:14] <godhell> brb
[03:15] <Jucato> JohnFlux: so now you have more than enough reason to change KSysGuard's icon :)
[03:15] <JohnFlux> well this is for the systray ksysguard
[03:16] <JohnFlux> as opposed to the kicker ksysguard or the program ksysguard :-D
[03:16] <JohnFlux> for that I use the xeyes icon :-)
[03:16] <BluesKaj> Gents, I'm running the latest Ktorrent unofficial release , now it crashes upon launch with this message : SIGABRT...there is debug list as well, but anyone have this problem and how did you fix it ?
[03:16] <JohnFlux> BluesKaj: I doubt the ktorrent developers are in here
[03:16] <Jucato> JohnFlux: lol :)
[03:16] <JohnFlux> BluesKaj: btw, make sure you turn on DHT in the options for faster downloading
[03:17] <JohnFlux> BluesKaj: i don't know why it's off by default
[03:17] <Jucato> JohnFlux: so now there are 3 "parts" to ksysguard? main, kicker applet, and systray?
[03:17] <hammer2> brbr
[03:17] <JohnFlux> and the Solid libraries
[03:17] <JohnFlux> :-D
[03:17] <Jucato> oh... Solid.... you lost me :P
[03:17] <BluesKaj> gawd that's all we need , another smarta**...it won't launch ..understood?
[03:17] <Jucato> JohnFlux: no Plasmoids? :P
[03:17] <JohnFlux> actually yes, that's on the todo list
[03:18] <JohnFlux> I want it to be easy to make plasmoids using ksysguard info
[03:18] <JohnFlux> via solid :-)
[03:18] <godhell> Ok now it works, thanks=d
[03:18] <Jucato> ... when Plasmoids actually do start to come in :D
[03:18] <Jucato> godhell: glad to hear
[03:18] <cntb> jucato hi
[03:19] <cntb> know some shortpath quick aand dirty way to samba print sharing ?
[03:19] <Jucato> um.. sorry, no...
[03:21] <JohnFlux> !printing
[03:21] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[03:21] <JohnFlux> cntb: maybe ^^
[03:22] <cntb> tyvm JohnFlux
[03:24] <MetaMorfoziS> what is the best screen capturing program? (i wanna make bideo)
[03:24] <hammer2> hi i cant remember who sent me to kde.org for the 3.6 update but thanks and is there away to get public keys ?
[03:24] <MetaMorfoziS> v
[03:25] <cntb> so what is hpijs driver in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrintersHp?
[03:27] <hammer2> i clicked on the edgy 3.5.6 i added to sources but i get blank pages and says i needed public keys anyone help me?
[03:27] <hammer2> i got the update but i wanna go back and take care of the key issues
[03:30] <hammer2> ne1?
[03:31] <hammer2> ok nm then i give up
[03:32] <hammer2> do that later i gotta update my kerns now
[03:32] <Jucato> bah...
[03:32] <Jucato> left before I could speak...
[03:33] <spawn57> hehe
[03:33] <reisi> hi everyone! does anyone have a clue in what package are the development headers for my opengl driver? or can i just install mesagl-headers?
[03:34] <reisi> or could the one be libglu1-mesa-dev
[03:35] <Jucato> reisi: hm.. try xorg-dev?
[03:35] <morgWork> hey guys
[03:35] <reisi> (i am trying to build wine from source with opengl)
[03:35] <reisi> Jucato: i've already got those.. maybe it was searching from the wrong place!
[03:35] <morgWork> anyone know offhand how to get evolution to handle attachements sanely (i.e. use OOo to open doc files, rather than just the save option)
[03:36] <Jucato> morgWork: um... Evolution... might want to ask in #ubuntu
[03:37] <morgWork> Jucato: that's what I was afraid the answer was gonna be- I'm gonna have to install have of gnome to change the settings
[03:38] <Jucato> morgWork: well, better check with them first...
[03:38] <Jucato> I mean, it's a GNOME app...
[03:38] <morgWork> yup, hence the problem....
[03:40] <paul__> I swear this channel was on irc.freenode.net
[03:40] <Jucato> paul__: it still is
[03:41] <Jucato> irc.ubuntu.com just currently points/redirects to freenode
[03:41] <paul__> Ah
[03:41] <paul__> Cheaters!
[03:41] <waylandbill> :)
[03:41] <Jucato> heh :)
[03:41] <paul__> I tried to install beryl, and now my windows have no title bars :P
[03:41] <Jucato> ah...
[03:41] <Jucato> #ubuntu-xgl for you :)
[03:41] <paul__> Ah yes
[03:42] <waylandbill> connecting to irc.ubuntu.com, [Welcome]  Your host is anthony.freenode.net
[03:42] <paul__> ty
[03:42] <Moneo> hi, can anyone point me to an fresh xorg.conf that is like how you start with on a fresh install of 6.10 ?
[03:42] <hyper_ch> !codecs
[03:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:43] <Jucato> waylandbill: it really depends... I'm on orwell
[03:43] <waylandbill> right.
[03:43] <ace> !kernel
[03:43] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[03:44] <waylandbill> I could only see mine though. :-)
[03:44] <BluesKaj> Moneo, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:44] <Moneo> thanks
[03:45] <Jucato> !xconfig
[03:45] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh 
[03:45] <Moneo> ah great, thanks
[03:52] <drbeams> i would like to print in pdf output.  any idea how to do this in kubuntu ?
[03:54] <Jucato> drbeams: choose Print to File (PDF) in the drop down list in the print dialog box
[03:54] <Theory> drbeams: as in take an existing document and produce a PDF of it?
[03:54] <fernando_> hi
[03:54] <fernando_> someone ere?
[03:54] <fernando_> here
[03:54] <fernando_> to help..?
[03:54] <drbeams> as in taking a web document and printing to pdf
[03:54] <drbeams> it does not appear to be an option in FF
[03:54] <Jucato> aah... only works with KDE apps
[03:54] <Theory> it can be done with firefox, probably easier to just load the page in konqueror though
[03:55] <fernando_> I am try to install nvidia drivers.. but I need to shutdown the serverX... how can I do that??
[03:55] <flaccid> fernando_: logout to login screen and select restart x server from the dropdown
[03:55] <Eruantalon> fernando_: ctrl+alt+backspace ... remember to save your stuff
[03:55] <Jucato> fernando_: Ctrl+Alt+F1, login, then type "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop"
[03:55] <Jucato> Eruantalon: that will only restart X
[03:55] <flaccid> never do ctrl + alt + bckspc
[03:55] <Eruantalon> flaccid: Why?
[03:56] <fernando_> I not need to restart the server
[03:56] <flaccid> besids losing unsaved information it kills stuff not sending the right signal for graceful shutdown of programs
[03:57] <Jucato> fernando_: how are you trying to install the nvidia drivers?
[03:59] <Eruantalon> What are the pro and cons of samba, nfs and other means of connecting your homenetwork locally and over the internet?
[03:59] <flaccid> um
[03:59] <flaccid> i guess security in general. but i can't think of much more.
[04:00] <mangz74> hi :)
[04:00] <Jucato> hi mangz74 :)
[04:01] <Eruantalon> There are no performance and stability and managability issues?
[04:03] <fernando_> thanks a lot!! now my nvidia drivers are running!!!
[04:03] <Jucato> good
[04:03] <flaccid> not that i can think of but if you expose samba/cifs to the net you should read up on security for that
[04:03] <Jucato> fernando_: double check: "glxinfo | grep rendering" in Konsole
[04:03] <fernando_> yes.. I try glxgears and is 3D acelerate
[04:04] <Jucato> fernando_: and the glxinfo command? does it say "direct rendering: yes"?
[04:04] <BluesKaj> I was informed that using samba can make your network vulnerable unless you're behind a router ...is this true ?
[04:04] <fernando_> yes.. Direct rengering: yes
[04:05] <BluesKaj> using all the AVr and FW precautions is implied here
[04:05] <Eruantalon> flaccid: Well, one big advantage is with samba you get easy integration with windows servers
[04:05] <flaccid> samba is reverse engineered smb which came from m$
[04:05] <Jucato> fernando_: then you're good to go :)
[04:06] <fernando_> jucato: some time ago, I use a command to shutdown the serverX, I can't remember but It was something with a level parameter
[04:06] <sharkp> hi to everybody
[04:07] <fernando_> jucato;: I remember that level 2 means text mode for the operative system
[04:07] <sharkp> I want to format my windows partition and reinstall XP
[04:07] <sharkp> who can help me?
[04:07] <fernando_> jucato: do you know about it?
[04:07] <Jucato> fernando_: heh I don't know about run levels :)
[04:07] <fernando_> jucato: any way thanks a lot again :-)
[04:07] <kkathman> sharkp sounds like you know what you want to do then
[04:07] <Jucato> sure np
[04:07] <Eruantalon> sharkp: Windows XP will wipe your boot sector and after installing it you will only be able to start xp until you fix again
[04:08] <fernando_> jucato: my next problem is with kdevelop 3.4
[04:08] <Jucato> fernando_: hmm?
[04:08] <fernando_> jucato: I read the instruction on the kubuntu website
[04:08] <sharkp> Eruantalon:in facts I saw that GRUB is on the NTFS partition
[04:08] <sharkp> how can I do?
[04:08] <fernando_> jucato: but doesn't work..
[04:09] <BluesKaj> sharkp, are you familiar with partition editors like GParted ?
[04:09] <Jucato> fernando_: which part doesn't work?
[04:09] <sharkp> yes
[04:09] <sharkp> a bit... :)
[04:09] <fernando_> jucato: I supose to add the sourcelist with the apt-get command..
[04:09] <sharkp> tell me,what shall I do?
[04:09] <flaccid> sharkp: consult the windows documentation
[04:09] <Eruantalon> Anyways be sure of what to do before you install xp. The documentation for this is messy
[04:09] <fernando_> jucato: but after that I dont get any new package to update
[04:09] <sharkp> I don't trust in it... ;)
[04:09] <fernando_> jucato: I supose to update KDE and then Kdevelop
[04:09] <fernando_> jucato: Is that right?
[04:10] <Jucato> fernando_: did you run "sudo apt-get update" or Fetch Updates from Adept?
[04:10] <flaccid> sharkp: then don't use it
[04:10] <fernando_> jucato: yes..I did
[04:10] <sharkp> flaccid:I know,but I MUST use also it
[04:10] <Jucato> fernando_: ok.. let's do this from the beginning, step by step..
[04:10] <sharkp> Isn't there a way?
[04:10] <flaccid> sharkp: well coming in here asking for windows support is a bit out of the scope
[04:10] <Jucato> fernando_: first, use pastebin, show your sources.list
[04:10] <BluesKaj> sharkp,  if you already have ubuntu installed , reinstalling windows will delete the Grub Bootloader ...Jucato what's his best choice or course of action here ?
[04:11] <Jucato> !pastebin | fernando_
[04:11] <ubotu> fernando_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:11] <flaccid> !windows
[04:11] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[04:11] <Jucato> !grub
[04:11] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:11] <flaccid> yeah thats the page
[04:11] <flaccid> sharkp: install windows, then follow the lost grub link from Jucato
[04:12] <sharkp> flaccid:do you know if there is an Italian translation of that link?
[04:12] <flaccid> nope
[04:12] <Jucato> !it | sharkp
[04:12] <ubotu> sharkp: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[04:12] <Jucato> sharkp: they might know
[04:12] <paul__> !beryl
[04:12] <Eruantalon> sharkp: flaccid: I have bad experience with the lost grub page.
[04:12] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[04:13] <fernando_> jucato: ok..I get it with the pastebin.. but do you want on it?
[04:13] <flaccid> Eruantalon: ok update it with your findings :)
[04:13] <sharkp> jucato: the chat in my language is a lot empty in this hour
[04:13] <Jucato> fernando_: give me the link that is produced after clicking on Submit/Paste
[04:13] <Paulo> hi
[04:13] <Eruantalon> flaccid: I never undestood what went wrong and why it finally worked.
[04:13] <Paulo> how can I change the kubuntu login screen?
[04:13] <fernando_> jucato: what is you original lenguage?
[04:14] <fernando_> you mather language
[04:14] <Paulo> it shows an ugly blue background
[04:14] <Jucato> fernando_: Filipino. but I speak English.
[04:14] <flaccid> no probs
[04:15] <Paulo> hello?
[04:15] <Jucato> !changethemes | Paulo
[04:15] <ubotu> Paulo: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[04:15] <Jucato> Paulo: see the KDM Theme section
[04:16] <Paulo> is that in kcontrol?
[04:16] <fernando_> jucato: ready on the submitpaste
[04:16] <flaccid> yep
[04:16] <Jucato> fernando_: where's the link?
[04:17] <fernando_> jucato: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3691/
[04:17] <Jucato> fernando_: er.. ok.. :)
[04:17] <paul__> How do you uninstall programs - It says the database is locked by another process
[04:18] <Jucato> !adept crash fix | paul__
[04:18] <ubotu> paul__: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[04:18] <Jucato> fernando_: you haven't added the KDE 3.5.6 repository yet
[04:18] <Paulo> thanks very much guys
[04:19] <fernando_> fernando: but isn't that the http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg??
[04:19] <Jucato> fernando_: no
[04:19] <fernando_> jucato: sorry..I am lost then :p
[04:19] <Jucato> fernando_: that's just the key
[04:19] <fernando_> jucato: and where is the repository?
[04:20] <fernando_> jucato: exist any website where I can found a list with repositories?
[04:20] <Jucato> fernando_: ok. let's do this step by step
[04:20] <fernando_> jucato : ok
[04:20] <Jucato> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php
[04:21] <fernando_> jucato: I am there
[04:21] <Jucato> fernando_: you have to add one of those to your sources.list
[04:21] <Jucato> !repositories | fernando_
[04:21] <ubotu> fernando_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:21] <Jucato> fernando_: follow that guide
[04:21] <fernando_> fernando: ok..wait a second
[04:22] <mefisto__> I can't seem to get korganizer to remember its toolbar settings. I want both icons and text, but when I close korganizer and start it again it is back to plain icons. (I know it's a minor problem, but I'd like to get to the bottom of it)
[04:23] <fernando_> jucato: I know how to add new repositories to the sources.list, so.. I have add "http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg"
[04:24] <fernando_> jucato : is that right?
[04:24] <Jucato> fernando_: no
[04:24] <Jucato> that is *not* a repository
[04:24] <Jucato> fernando_: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-356 edgy main <--- this is a repository
[04:24] <sorush20> I'm using ie six now
[04:25] <fernando_> jucato: and what is that?
[04:25] <Jucato> that is a repository for KDE 3.5.6 for Kubuntu Edgy
[04:25] <fernando_> jucato: I mean this-> http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[04:25] <Jucato> "These packages have been digitally signed using Jonathan Riddell's key. A copy of the key is also kept on people.ubuntu.com for verification. To add this key do:"
[04:25] <Jucato> ^^^^
[04:26] <fernando_> jucato: ok..
[04:26] <fernando_> jucato: so.. I apply these command on my console?? right?
[04:26] <Jucato> fernando_: no
[04:26] <Jucato> did you read the link I gave above? about repositories?
[04:27] <fernando_> jucato: that explain how to use de adept..
[04:27] <Jucato> fernando_: yes, it also explains how to add a repository
[04:28] <fernando_> jucato: yes..I now..and?
[04:28] <fernando_> jucato: yes..but now? I am a bit lost still
[04:28] <Jucato> fernando_: ok... open up Adept Manager.
[04:28] <fernando_> jucato: should I enable the universal repositories?
[04:29] <Jucato> fernando_: no
[04:29] <Tobias_2> Hello friends:)
[04:29] <fernando_> jucato: ok..is open
[04:29] <Jucato> fernando_: open Adept Manager and go to the Adept menu -> Manage Repositories
[04:29] <paul__> !beryl
[04:29] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[04:29] <fernando_> jucato: I am there
[04:29] <fernando_> jucato: on manage repositories
[04:30] <Tobias_2> How do I use tv-out in kubuntu, is there a program?
[04:30] <Jucato> fernando_: in the New Repository box at the bottom, add this: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-356 edgy main
[04:30] <jlarsson> where kan i find tahoma ttf ?
[04:30] <jlarsson> where kan i find tahoma ttf ?
[04:30] <mefisto__> does anyone know where toolbar settings are set? I can't make changes stick in korganizer
[04:31] <fernando_> jucato: ok.. should I fetch updates now?
[04:31] <Jucato> !msttcorefonts | jlarsson
[04:31] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[04:31] <Tobias_2> !tv-out
[04:31] <ubotu> For help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)
[04:31] <Jucato> fernando_: did you click on Add already? after you pasted "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-356 edgy main"?
[04:31] <jlarsson> where can i find tahoma ttf
[04:31] <fernando_> jucato: yes I did
[04:31] <Tobias_2> I have an integrated intel card on my laptop :(
[04:31] <Jucato> fernando_: ok, click on Apply
[04:31] <fernando_> jucato: is now on the list
[04:31] <fernando_> jucato: I did the apply already
[04:32] <Jucato> fernando_: ok, click on Apply at the bottom
[04:32] <paul__> What does "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 170" mean?
[04:32] <Jucato> fernando_: then click on Close (at the bottom), then Fetch Updates at the top
[04:32] <Jucato> !baddevice | paul__
[04:32] <ubotu> paul__: If you are receiving an error similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168 then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[04:32] <jlarsson> where can i find tahoma ttf
[04:33] <Jucato> jlarsson: have you tried install msttcorefonts?
[04:33] <paul__> ty :)
[04:33] <Tobias_2> is there no tv-out support for intel cards?
[04:33] <jhutchins> jlarsson: http://www.google.com/search?q=tahoma+ttf&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
[04:33] <flaccid> !fonts
[04:33] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[04:33] <flaccid> try msttcorefonts
[04:34] <fernando_> jucato: how did you know about the link http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-356 ??
[04:34] <fernando_> jucato: is any website where is a list of links to repositories?
[04:34] <Jucato> fernando_: it's on the page for KDE 3.5.6
[04:35] <Jucato> fernando_: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php <---
[04:35] <flaccid> fernando_: try apt:// in konqueror
[04:35] <Jucato> it's there, below
[04:35] <flaccid> fernando_: oh sorry
[04:35] <Jucato> fernando_: repositories start with a "deb"
[04:35] <flaccid> !source-o-matic | fernando_
[04:35] <ubotu> fernando_: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:35] <flaccid> you might like that
[04:35] <kkathman> you should be able to open your sources.lst, and change the current kde repo from 5 to 6, do the update and dist-upgrade
[04:35] <Tobias_2> :(
[04:35] <fernando_> jucato: thanks..a lot :-)
[04:36] <Jucato> fernando_: hm.. did you paste exactly "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-356 edgy main" ? including the "deb" and the "edgy main"?
[04:36] <Jucato> fernando_:  in one line?
[04:36] <fernando_> yes..
[04:36] <Jucato> ok good
[04:36] <fernando_> fernando: I have the packages to upgrade
[04:37] <fernando_> fernando: since to be ok
[04:37] <Jucato> ok good luck
[04:37] <slyfox> What is the command by which I can find out my current ip address ?
[04:37] <fernando_> fernando: I will apply the changes now
[04:37] <Jucato> slyfox: ifconfig?
[04:37] <fernando_> jucato: after I apply the changes, I need to restart linux?
[04:37] <fernando_> jucato: for the new kde?
[04:38] <Jucato> fernando_: no. you just need to logout
[04:38] <kkathman> restart kde
[04:38] <Tobias_2> how do i usetvout?
[04:38] <fernando_> jucato: ok
[04:38] <fernando_> jucato: and for kdevelop 3.4, I need also a new link ??
[04:39] <slyfox> Jucato: thanks
[04:39] <Jucato> fernando_: no. just that
[04:39] <fernando_> jucato: okis..thanks a lot :-)
[04:41] <gavinc> hi guys, installed kubuntu today and xorg is using 40% of my cpu. wtf? I installed nvidia accel and have turned off all the KDE extras. dont get it? never had this issue with the x server before..
[04:41] <gavinc> any suggestions?
[04:41] <Tobias_2> nobody knows about TV-Out?
[04:42] <mhk> i installed proftpd on kubuntu 6.10 but it doesn't work, i cannot reach my computer!
[04:43] <jlarsson> ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/fonts how can i get there !!!???
[04:43] <Tobias_2> I got the intel 855GME, how do I make TV-Out work?
[04:44] <jlarsson> ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/fonts how can i get there !!!???
[04:44] <fernando_> someone know why kubuntu is still on the linux kernel 2.6.17??
[04:44] <jlarsson> ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/fonts how can i get there !!!???
[04:45] <Jucato> fernando_: that was the kernel that was tested and released for Edgy
[04:45] <jlarsson> ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/fonts how can i get there !!!???
[04:45] <fernando_> jucato: is possible to move on 2.6.18??
[04:45] <fernando_> jucato: I want to explain the why of my question
[04:45] <mhk> jlarsson: cd ~/.wine....
[04:45] <fernando_> jucato: I have a power pcg5 quad core
[04:46] <phux> hithere
[04:46] <fernando_> jucato: and the kernel do not control the fun..so, is running full power
[04:46] <Jucato> fernando_: not sure about that
[04:46] <phux> anyone running hp lj 1018?
[04:46] <fernando_> jucato: ok..;)
[04:46] <jlarsson> mhk_ it wont find it :S
[04:46] <jlarsson> mhk: it wont find irt
[04:48] <mikebeecham> Hi there, I wonder whether you may be able to help...I have a shared windows folder mounted via smb4k....
[04:49] <mikebeecham> however, today it is saying "an error occurred while tryng to get the browse list"
[04:49] <jlarsson> ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/fonts where can i find that ?
[04:49] <jlarsson> ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/fonts where can i find that ?
[04:49] <mikebeecham> would anyone be able to help?
[04:49] <jlarsson> ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/fonts where can i find that ?
[04:50] <Jucato> jlarsson: do you have wine installed?
[04:50] <Jucato> jlarsson: in Konqueror, in the location bar, enter that location
[04:50] <Jucato> ~ means your home. so that would be /home/username/.wine/drive_c/windows/fonts
[04:50] <mikebeecham> can anyone help me with smb4k?
[04:51] <jlarsson> that folder doesent exist it says
[04:51] <alexandrepos> what a better softphone for kde ?
[04:52] <jhutchins> http://watchismo.blogspot.com/2007/01/math-watches-protractors-slide-rulers.html <= strange.  That looks like a straightforward link, but it crashes konq consistently, as does another permalink on that blog, although the blog itself loads fine.
[04:53] <jhutchins> jlarsson: have you run the wine configurator?
[04:53] <Jucato> jlarsson: do you have wine installed?
[04:54] <jhutchins> mikebeecham: The brows list is the list of availables windows network machines.
[04:54] <Jucato> jhutchins: what part of it crashes Konq?
[04:54] <jhutchins> mikebeecham: What's your network?  Do you have a PDC, is it windows or samba?
[04:54] <jhutchins> Jucato: Darned if I know.
[04:54] <jlarsson> yes i have wine installed
[04:54] <Jucato> jhutchins: I mean, just loading that link crashes Konq?
[04:54] <kilrae> does anybody know what to about a kernel panic on boot giving the error "Bad EIP value"?
[04:55] <jhutchins> Jucato: Only reason I posted it here was in case someone can figure it out and there's something interesting behind it.
[04:55] <jhutchins> Jucato: Yeah, if I click that it'll crash.
[04:55] <Jucato> hm.. didn't crash for me...
[04:55] <jhutchins> Yeah, someone else reported it was ok.
[04:55] <mikebeecham> hi jhutchins....It is a windows network, with an mp3 folder shared.  I have re-installed smb4k and I can now mount the drive ok...
[04:55] <jhutchins> For me though it crashes consistently, and on another permalink to that blog as well.
[04:55] <mefisto__> does anyone know how toolbar settings are set? I can't make changes stick in korganizer
[04:55] <mikebeecham> however, when I run amarok, I can point the "collection" to the mounted drive, but it will not add the folder into the collections
[04:56] <jhutchins> mikebeecham: Ok, long as you've got it.  Might have been sufficient to restart the samba processes.
[04:56] <jhutchins> mikebeecham: Ah.
[04:56] <jhutchins> lemmesee.... permissions?  What user mounts the share?
[04:56] <rusanso> Heelo Tibias_2
[04:56] <mikebeecham> yeah the drive is now mounted
[04:56] <jhutchins> mikebeecham: my music collection is on an NT4 server.
[04:56] <mikebeecham> my login...not root
[04:57] <mikebeecham> well the music collection is on my winXp pro machine, shared
[04:57] <jhutchins> Ok, what permissions on the share?
[04:57] <rusanso> about  intel 855GME i'm searching some information right now for a fried
[04:57] <mikebeecham> full rights
[04:57] <rusanso> & i found that: http://www.ubuntu-es.org/index.php?q=node/33515
[04:57] <jhutchins> mikebeecham: If you look at the share in console, do you have execute permissions?
[04:58] <rusanso> well, it's in spanish...but  apparntly u don't need any driver
[04:58] <mikebeecham> Isorry mate....I have been using linux for 5 days now, would you mind guiding me to that?
[04:58] <mikebeecham> :D New linux user
[04:58] <rusanso> u should only modify xorg.conf like the attachment....
[04:58] <jhutchins> Open terminal, ls -l <path-to-share>
[04:59] <mikebeecham> total = 0
[04:59] <jhutchins> mikebeecham: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html
[04:59] <mikebeecham> sorry...
[04:59] <mikebeecham> total 0
[04:59] <jhutchins> What we're interested in is the rwxrwxrwx pattern to the left.
[05:00] <Dr_willis> Ive accessed music files over a smb4k mounted share befor.. odd.
[05:00] <jhutchins> That's three triplets of permissions, for Owner, Group, World respectively, Read, Write, eXecute.
[05:00] <mikebeecham> the strange thing is, it pulls the music into a playlist, but will not import the music in the collections tab
[05:01] <jhutchins> mikebeecham: What version of amarok?
[05:01] <mikebeecham> 1.4.3
[05:01] <jhutchins> mikebeecham: You might get some help in #amarok, those guys are real helpful.
[05:02] <Dr_willis> mikebeecham,  all i can say is - it just worked for me when i tried it.
[05:02] <jhutchins> mikebeecham: I'm on 1.4.4, but I think you're right to suspec that it's something about how the share's mounted.
[05:02] <mikebeecham> thanks Willis
[05:02] <Dr_willis> mikebeecham,  i gave amarok the path like /home/willis/smb4k/WINDOESPC/Sharename/MusicDir
[05:02] <jhutchins> I mount all mine using smbfs and fstab.
[05:02] <Dr_willis> /TURION/C on /home/willis/smb4k/TURION/C type smbfs (rw)     - is what is says in 'mount'
[05:03] <mikebeecham> my path is
[05:03] <mikebeecham> so it should be ok
[05:03] <jhutchins> Here's one of my fstab entries: //cavern/music /cavern/music smbfs credentials=/etc/samba/auth.cavern.wolfsden,dmask=777,fmask=777 0 0
[05:03] <Dr_willis> mount point permissions are --> drwxr-xr-x 1 willis willis 4096 2007-02-01 11:02 C
[05:04] <Dr_willis> mikebeecham,  ive recently upgraded to the kde 3.5.6 - wonder if that fixed any issues.
[05:04] <mikebeecham> I'm running Ubuntu 6.06 lts
[05:04] <jhutchins> the /etc/samba/auth.cavern.wolfsden contains
[05:04] <jhutchins> username = wolfsden
[05:04] <jhutchins> domain = TARCANFEL
[05:04] <jhutchins> password =
[05:05] <jhutchins> Dr_willis: I've had it this way since at least 3.5.2
[05:05] <jhutchins> I use a machine account to mount the share, so that any user can access it.
[05:06] <mikebeecham> Sorry..I dont understand this command....
[05:06] <mikebeecham> mount -t smbfs -o fmask=666,dmask=777,guest //server/share /path/to/mount-point
[05:06] <mikebeecham> the //server/share bit?
[05:06] <jhutchins> server is the hostname of the machine that has the share, "share: is the name it's shared as.
[05:07] <mikebeecham> so in my case, the hostname would be MIKEANDHELEN?
[05:07] <mikebeecham> or MP3s?
[05:07] <jhutchins> Quite possibly.  In my case it's //cavern/music
[05:07] <jhutchins> cavern being the NT server.
[05:07] <mikebeecham> my SMB4k mount point is:
[05:08] <mikebeecham> "/home/mikebeecham/smb4k/MIKEANDHELEN/MP3s"
[05:08] <mikebeecham> so I'm assuming that the hostname is MIKEANDHELEN?
[05:08] <jhutchins> No, that's just your mount point.
[05:08] <Tobias_2> how do I make my intel 855gm integrated screen card use TV-Out ? :)
[05:08] <jhutchins> What's the hostname of the XP machine?
[05:08] <mikebeecham> how would I find the hostname?
[05:08] <mikebeecham> I think it's mikeandhelen (as well)
[05:08] <kilrae> well, i started pulling out random components and the error went away when i took out one of the ram modules, but oddly when i put it back in the error didn't come back
[05:09] <jhutchins> smbclient -L //<networkname>
[05:09] <jhutchins> where <networkname> is your windows network.
[05:09] <jhutchins> often defaults to "WORKGROUP", not sure with XP.
[05:10] <mikebeecham> domain = MIKEANDHELEN
[05:10] <jhutchins> You can find it in the network settings or the "My Computer" properties I think.
[05:10] <mikebeecham> ahhh ok
[05:10] <flaccid> that is the server name i think
[05:10] <jhutchins> Ok, so take a shot at smbclient -L //MIKEANDHELEN
[05:10] <flaccid> smclient -NL //server
[05:10] <flaccid> smbclient //server/share
[05:10] <jhutchins> flaccid: -N?
[05:11] <jlarsson> kan someone send me a link with a thread how i can update dapper to edgy ?
[05:11] <flaccid> or smbclient //workgroup/server/share
[05:11] <mikebeecham> right it's come up with a whole load of info
[05:11] <flaccid> N = no login
[05:11] <ajboorde> How do I remove ubuntu/kubuntu
[05:11] <HymnToLife> !edgy | jlarsson
[05:11] <ubotu> jlarsson: Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[05:12] <ajboorde> How do I remove ubuntu/kubuntu
[05:12] <Jucato> ajboorde: you just reformat the partition or overwrite it
[05:12] <ajboorde> It wont allow it
[05:12] <Dr_willis> ajboorde,  you mean remove as in what way?
[05:12] <ajboorde> Well
[05:12] <jhutchins> mikebeecham: At the end of that it shold list "Server   Comment" and "Workgroup  Master".
[05:13] <ajboorde> I had XP on there and I just put ubuntu on without dual partitioning my HDD.
[05:13] <ajboorde> So I want to put XP back on
[05:13] <ajboorde> Then dual partition
[05:13] <ajboorde> And put ubuntu on that way
[05:13] <jhutchins> ajboorde: probably want to partition the drive first.
[05:13] <jhutchins> Then you'll need to reinstall XP.
[05:13] <jhutchins> Then ubuntu.
[05:13] <Dr_willis> ajboorde,  so you want to repartition the drive, install XP on the first parttion. leaving the 2nd half of the drive 'unallocated' THEn install ubuntu to the unallocated space.
[05:13] <ajboorde> So do I fdisk?
[05:14] <jhutchins> ajboorde: Make sure you use vfat/fat32 not ntfs for the xp partition.
[05:14] <jhutchins> ajboorde: Yep.
[05:14] <Tobias_2> rusanso: thanx! :)
[05:14] <ajboorde> I was reading through how to do it
[05:14] <mikebeecham> oooooh jhutchins...it's building the collections :D
[05:14] <ajboorde> But each way wouldnt work
[05:14] <jhutchins> mikebeecham: I have no idea why that fixed it, but great!
[05:14] <mikebeecham> :D
[05:14] <Dr_willis> or use a live cd with 'gparted/qtparted' and do it with that parted tool.
[05:14] <jhutchins> TLDP has a lot of good stuff on using Linux.
[05:15] <mikebeecham> 5 days into Linux and I'm LOVING IT
[05:15] <ajboorde> Said I didnt define a partition
[05:15] <mikebeecham> !!!
[05:15] <mikebeecham> brb
[05:15] <Dr_willis> because learning to use 'fdisk' can be a bit of a trial for someone not used to it.
[05:15] <ajboorde> Ive been messing with it for awhile now
[05:15] <jhutchins> Dr_willis: Oh come on.
[05:15] <ajboorde> And it just isnt working
[05:16] <jhutchins> fdisk /dev/hda; p; m
[05:16] <jhutchins> ajboorde: fdisk?
[05:16] <ajboorde> You will not be able to write the partition table.
[05:16] <ajboorde> Note: sector size is 2048 (not 512)
[05:16] <ajboorde> Device contains neither a valid DOS partition table, nor Sun, SGI or OSF disklabel
[05:16] <ajboorde> Building a new DOS disklabel. Changes will remain in memory only,
[05:16] <ajboorde> until you decide to write them. After that, of course, the previous
[05:16] <ajboorde> content won't be recoverable.
[05:16] <ajboorde> Warning: invalid flag 0x0000 of partition table 4 will be corrected by w(rite)
[05:16] <ajboorde> Command (m for help):
[05:16] <ajboorde> bash: p: command not found
[05:16] <ajboorde> bash: m: command not found
[05:16] <ajboorde> Didnt work
[05:17] <Dr_willis> jhutchins,  hes all yours....
[05:17] <ajboorde> I should have dual partitioned
[05:17] <ajboorde> haha
[05:17] <jhutchins> ajboorde: Don't past stuff here, use the pastebin.  Feenode's servers will kick you.
[05:17] <ajboorde> Oh
[05:17] <ajboorde> Sorry
[05:17] <jhutchins> ajboorde: What are you using?
[05:17] <jhutchins> fdisk?
[05:17] <LjL> and ubuntu operators too... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org is very handy
[05:17] <ajboorde> From the terminal
[05:18] <Dr_willis> if hes trying to 'fdisk' the machines hes running on at this time... thats may not be a good idea. :)
[05:18] <jhutchins> ajboorde: What exact command did you use?
[05:18] <jhutchins> ajboorde: Did you boot from hard disk or CD?
[05:18] <ajboorde> I did what the forums were telling me to. fdisk /dev/hda
[05:18] <ajboorde> Then I tried to insert my XP disk
[05:19] <jhutchins> Dr_willis: He can run fdisk from the same disk - once.
[05:19] <ajboorde> And restart but it didnt do anything
[05:19] <jhutchins> Ok.  Boot from the *buntu CD, tell us when you have a terminal open.
[05:19] <jhutchins> (I suppose you could boot to rescue mode...)
[05:19] <ajboorde> Okay then
[05:19] <ajboorde> Brb
[05:20] <vincas> Hi
[05:20] <vincas>  How to display (when printing) page numbers on OpenOffice?
[05:21] <BluesKaj> !O.O
[05:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about O.O - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:21] <Dr_willis> vincas,  i recall someone asking that a week or so ago..
[05:21] <BluesKaj> !Open Office
[05:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Open Office - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:21] <Dr_willis> vincas,  i thought you added footer/headers... but i aint used OOo in years...
[05:21] <Jucato> !openoffice.org
[05:21] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org
[05:24] <IAmWill> Where is the list of repository links?
[05:25] <Dr_willis> IAmWill,  i use the !easysource site
[05:25] <Dr_willis> !easysource
[05:25] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:26] <IAmWill> Dr_Willis, thanks
[05:26] <IAmWill> Dr_Willis, any suggestions on which link to use?
[05:26] <Dr_willis> I let easysource generate my sources.list depending on what packges i want
[05:27] <Dr_willis> I tend to enable them ALL. :) but i am a sick-little-puppy (tm)
[05:27] <Tobias_2> could someone translate this page about my screen card to english from spanish? http://www.ubuntu-es.org/index.php?q=node/33515
[05:28] <IAmWill> :)  I am trying this out.. (i was a gentoo unstable user, so all is good )    :)
[05:28] <chrismhampson> anyone know how to start the kpowersave daemon and make it also start on bootup?
[05:28] <IAmWill> Tobias_2, go to altavista and use the babel fish page translator
 Insert --> Footer
[05:28] <vincas> [18:26]  <hyper_ch> and then:   Insert --> Fields --> Page Number
[05:28] <vincas> :)
[05:29] <Tobias_2> thanx
[05:29] <IAmWill> np
[05:29] <Dr_willis> vincas,  exactly what the HELP pages say. :)
[05:29] <ajboordede> Okay
[05:30] <ajboordede> I am now runnung from the live cd
[05:30] <ajboordede> And terminal is open
[05:30] <ajboordede> what do I do now
[05:31] <IAmWill> Dr_Willis, do other countries have better goodies.. or will US be okay?
[05:31] <ajboordede> willis left
[05:31] <IAmWill> ohh... i see
[05:32] <IAmWill> can anyone answer that?
[05:32] <ajboordede> US is fine
[05:33] <Tobias_2> could someone help me use this crt program? http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/dapper/x11/i855-crt.en.html
[05:33] <ajboordede> I need help with fdisk
[05:34] <IAmWill> thanks
[05:34] <IAmWill> ajboordede, whats wrong with fdisk?
[05:34] <ajboordede> I am trying to remove ubuntu
[05:34] <ajboordede> Because I forgot to partition
[05:34] <ajboordede> When I installed it
[05:35] <ajboordede> So I want to remove it and startover
[05:35] <ajboordede> With XP/Vista first
[05:36] <Tobias_2> rusanso: thanx! :D
[05:41] <fernando_> I get the follow error on Kdevelop : checking dynamic linker characteristics... cat: /etc/ld.so.conf.d/*.conf: No such file or directory
[05:41] <IAmWill> okay.... well... install XP first save yourself some space for ubuntu... then install ubuntu on the remaining space
[05:41] <fernando_> anyone know about it?
[05:41] <IAmWill> are you actually using fdisk, or a part tool?
[05:43] <jhutchins> ajboorde: Hi, sorry.
[05:44] <fernando_> someone know if exist a kdevelop irc chanel??
[05:44] <jhutchins> Dang, where'd he go?
[05:44] <mefisto__> does anyone know how toolbar settings are set? I can't make changes stick in korganizer
[05:48] <IAmWill> one other newb question... where is the repository list kept at?  I know I can edit it via synaptic manager, but is there a text file somewhere?
[05:48] <Jucato> IAmWill:  /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:48] <IAmWill> thanks
[05:49] <Jucato> (the file is sources.list, in /etc/apt/ directory)
[05:50] <fernando_> Hi, I get an error on kdevelop -> error while loading shared libraries: libwx_gtk2_aui-2.8.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:50] <fernando_> anyone have any idea?
[05:52] <Tobias_2> how do I edit xorg.conf ?
[05:53] <Tobias_2> is it vi xorg.conf or something? a blank file pops up..
[05:53] <extern> sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:53] <extern> or sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:53] <Tobias_2> thanx :)
[05:53] <extern> np
[06:00] <BluesKaj> or kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf in the runbox
[06:01] <mefisto__> could somebody running kde 3.5.6 try this for me: start korganizer, change a toolbar setting (eg, show text under icons), then restart korganizer and see if the toolbar change sticks
[06:02] <eagles051387> what is the command to havvve alien convert and install rpm's
[06:03] <Theory> eagles051387: there is a lot of useful information in the alien man page
[06:03] <eagles051387> ok thanks
[06:05] <mefisto__> anyone running kde 3.5.6?
[06:05] <fernando_> mafisto..I am running kde 3.5.6
[06:06] <mefisto__> could you try this for me: start korganizer, change a toolbar setting (eg, show text under icons), then restart korganizer and see if the toolbar change sticks
[06:06] <karmikaze> hey everyone, polling again for PCI wifi card, who has one they love <3
[06:06] <fernando_> ok..wait
[06:06] <soundray> karmikaze: it's very rude to ask a question, then leave 10 seconds later.
[06:06] <karmikaze> well i find its more responsive here
[06:06] <karmikaze> too many joins/parts there
[06:07] <karmikaze> and it was more like two minutes
[06:07] <karmikaze> anyway
[06:08] <the_hammer> is there a command to type to see what the last apt-get i typed was?
[06:08] <the_hammer> kubuntu610?
[06:09] <dyrne> the_hammer: grep "apt-get" ~/.bash_history maybe ?
[06:10] <LjL> the_hammer: or you can check out which package was installed/removed/whatever last
[06:10] <LjL> tail /var/log/dpkg.log
[06:10] <fernando_> mafisto: where exactly is that option? show text?
[06:11] <Tobias_2> why the ***** does it have to be so hard to get tv-out :(
[06:11] <Tobias_2> Windows made it work in a second
[06:11] <mefisto__> fernando_: right-click on the toolbar, then in the Text Position menu that pops up
[06:11] <Tobias_2> aaaahh
[06:11] <karmikaze> Tobias_2: what graphics card do you have
[06:11] <Tobias_2> intel 855 gm
[06:11] <karmikaze> :/ sorry
[06:11] <karmikaze> pretty easy with nvidia...
[06:11] <Tobias_2> there are bunches of pages on google, but they all speak about strange stuff
[06:11] <karmikaze> i guess you have a laptop
[06:11] <Tobias_2> yeah
[06:11] <karmikaze> :(
[06:12] <Tobias_2> I installed something called i855-crt, I got the program working, but I guess it is for external computer screens not tv
[06:12] <Tobias_2> cus there is no image
[06:12] <karmikaze> is it through an svideo port?
[06:13] <fernando_> mafisto: is work only during the sesion..If I restart the program..the settings are again the default settings
[06:13] <Tobias_2> karmikaze: yuppp
[06:14] <karmikaze> got no idea about intel, but with nvidia its just a matter of adding a few options into the xorg.conf
[06:14] <Tobias_2> hmmm
[06:14] <mefisto__> fernando_: ok thanks. It must be a new bug in the 3.5.6 version
[06:14] <Tobias_2> what options?
[06:14] <fernando_> mefisto: okis ;-)
[06:14] <karmikaze> nvidia has its own set of options called TwinView
[06:14] <karmikaze> i have no idea what intel does
[06:14] <karmikaze> or how its addressed
[06:14] <karmikaze> sorry
[06:15] <Tobias_2> hmm
[06:16] <Tobias_2> !tv-out
[06:16] <ubotu> For help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)
[06:17] <karmikaze> :/
[06:26] <extern> how can I encrypt files?
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[06:27] <extern> rofl
[06:27] <RichiH> did you just receive spam?
[06:28] <Tm_T> Damned!
[06:28] <Tm_T> RichiH: Yes...
[06:28] <extern> how can I encrypt a file?
[06:28] <RichiH> k, i assume it was gordon_4, correct?
[06:28] <extern> yes
[06:28] <Tm_T> Yu, I was too slow to kick him, sorry. :(
[06:29] <RichiH> k, thanks
[06:29] <RichiH> have fun, guys :)
[06:30] <BishiNightBird> how do I change wlassistant to look at wlan0 instead of eth1?
[06:32] <raeez> hey, can anybody tell me how to do a batch replace text job - I have about 100 text files each with a phrase I want to substitute repeatedly with another prase. Any ideas?
[06:42] <raeez> hey, can anybody tell me how to do a batch replace text job - I have about 100 text files each with a phrase I want to substitute repeatedly with another prase. Any ideas?
[06:42] <raeez> !aptfix
[06:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aptfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:42] <raeez> !apt-fix
[06:42] <LjL> !adept unlock
[06:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:43] <LjL> !aptfix is <alias> adept crash fix
[06:43] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[06:43] <ubotu> I'll remember that, LjL
[06:43] <LjL> !msg the bot > raeez
[06:43] <raeez> !adept unlock
[06:43] <raeez> thanks
[06:44] <NightBird> how do I disable file system scanning for certain partitions again?
[06:44] <raeez> hey, can anybody tell me how to do a batch replace text job - I have about 100 text files each with a phrase I want to substitute repeatedly with another prase. Any ideas?
[06:44] <d0dge> Any good C64 emus for Linux?
[06:45] <Ippatsu> raeez: you could use sed or awk
[06:45] <raeez> could you guide me through it? Iv never done something like this before
[06:45] <hatta> d0dge, try VICE
[06:46] <d0dge> hatta: Okay, thanks.
[06:46] <raeez> Ippatsu could you tell me how?
[06:48] <Ippatsu> raeez: you should write a simple bash script that for each file modifies the target string, the basic usage of sed is sed "one-or-two-sed-commands" input.file >newfile.txt
[06:48] <Ippatsu> raeez: look http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/197 for an exaple on how to loop on files
[06:49] <raeez> thanks
[06:51] <hatta> raeez, if you do this sort of thing a lot, o'reillys "Sed and Awk" is a great book to have
[06:52] <hatta> http://www.unix.org.ua/orelly/unix/sedawk/index.htm
[06:52] <hatta> that one
[06:52] <raeez> thanks hatta, ill look into it. Ive just recently made the change from win to linux so that would be great
[06:52] <linopil> asds
[06:52] <raeez> thanks, got to go
[06:53] <NightBird> How do I tell kubuntu to not scan my fat32 partitions on startup?
[06:55] <dwidmann|sleep> NightBird: removing them from the fstab so they don't get mounted would be one way.
[06:56] <nemo_> -> dwidmann yes but his partition will not be mount at startup no ?
[06:56] <Ace2016> wouldn't getting rid of auto stop it being mounted?
[06:56] <nemo_> -> dwidmann scuse me i'm french
[06:56] <dwidmann> nemo_: Indeed.
[06:56] <NightBird> dwidmann, thanks... that was the file I was looking for... you can also chenge the last int to 0 to prevent it from being scanned, but still mount it
[06:56] <waylandbill> dwidmann: yes.. take out the auto option
[06:57] <nemo_> i have a friend with the same problem
[06:57] <dwidmann> Hmmm.
[06:57] <dwidmann> so changing the pass to 0 stops it from being scanned? Guess I never paid that close attention
[06:57] <NightBird> I believe so, yes..
[06:58] <NightBird> at least from what I remember reading about it
[06:58] <mefisto__> can I specify my root password in a sudo or kdesu command, so I don't get asked for my password? I want to add something to the kmenu that runs as root but would rather not be asked for a password
[06:59] <dwidmann> If the sixth field is not present or zero, a value  of  zero
[06:59] <dwidmann>        is  returned  and fsck will assume that the filesystem does not need to
[06:59] <dwidmann>        be checked.
[06:59] <dwidmann> man fstab :)
[06:59] <nemo_> -> dwidmann thanks ... it is the field of fstab ?
[07:00] <dwidmann> mefisto__: not as far as I know
[07:00] <waylandbill> 0 probably isn't what you want though.. probably want it after a handful of reboots just not every one.
[07:01] <dwidmann> nemo_: the last field in the line is a number [0,1,2] , 0 means it won't have fsck scan it, 1 means it's the root partition (and gets scanned), 2 means it needs to be scanned
[07:01] <waylandbill> especially fat32.. windows likes to cross-link files when it crashes. :-D
[07:02] <dwidmann> FAT32 likes to screw itself over in general.
[07:02] <nemo_> dwidmann: great thanks i have never understand this field befor
[07:02] <dwidmann> Neither did I :)
[07:02] <waylandbill> dwidmann: I won't disagree with that assessment
[07:03] <waylandbill> with ext2 tools for windows, I'd rather do it that direction than the alternative.
[07:13] <kutkinna> how do i reconfigure kgpg ? i'v lost my config file
[07:16] <dddude55> see if you can find one in the forums
[07:16] <dddude55> err rather, where is it maybe i can help
[07:18] <Gekokufox> Anyone know a good place for laptop drivers?  I just installed kubuntu and my wireless isn't supported, and my cd-rom can't eject, etc :(
[07:19] <kutkinna> nevemind, i just have to delete kgpdrc
[07:19] <kutkinna> *kgpgrc
[07:21] <dettoaltrimenti_> hello- I am using ppoeconf to connect to a wireless dsl connection, and every 10 or 15 minutes, I have to run the command pon dsl-provider again, as it disconnects. I think this is because I have a very bad router, but is there any way to make the computer automatically run that command when it loses the connection?
[07:30] <dddude55> gekokufox: waht card are you using
[07:31] <dddude55> dettoaltrimenti: what router and card are you using
[07:31] <Tobias_2> Im wondering if I should use evil ms windows so I can get tv out, 5 hours or so wasted on trying to get tvout is sucky
[07:32] <dddude55> heh
[07:32] <dddude55> ive spent 7 hours on my wireless card
[07:32] <dddude55> a card that is said to be automatically found in this distro
[07:32] <Tobias_2> yeah, I havent mentioned all the hours I spent on other things
[07:32] <Tobias_2> :)
[07:32] <Tobias_2> nice when it works tho
[07:33] <dddude55> heh yeah lol
[07:33] <dddude55> i just want the wireless so i can get out of this cahir...
[07:34] <dddude55> i was told the expert install sees it right away
[07:34] <dddude55> but i cant remember what i've done here that will have to be redone lol
[07:34] <dddude55> i know mp3 and dvd for sure...
[07:35] <dwidmann> dddude55: if you did it in a shell, type "history" to see what all you've done ... nice way to backtrack
[07:35] <dddude55> does edgy use gnome?
[07:35] <extern> ubuntu edgy uses gnome, while kubuntu is based on KDE
[07:35] <dwidmann> dddude55: gnome or kde, same as any other release
[07:35] <dddude55> hmm
[07:37] <dddude55> i think i blacklisted drivers i need lol
[07:38] <dddude55> hmm, i dont thinki downloaded the alternate cd for the expert instal
[07:38] <dwidmann> /etc/modprobe.d/ is where you find your blacklists, in case you forgot
[07:39] <dddude55> oh i know, im just not sure yet lol
[07:39] <dwidmann> also, if you know which driver it is, after removing it from the blacklist (if applicable), modprobe it, restart the networking (sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop; sudo /etc/init.d/networking start) and cross your fingers
[07:40] <dddude55> im pretty sure my revision uses the orinoco driver
[07:40] <dddude55> but even with that on it wont work
[07:41] <karmikaze> someone talking about wifi?
[07:41] <karmikaze> >_>
[07:41] <karmikaze> <_<
[07:41] <dddude55> i am talking about wifi lol
[07:41] <dddude55> that and..
[07:41] <dwidmann> No, we're talking about how we're slowly going insane karmikaze, actually.
[07:41] <dddude55> !wifi
[07:41] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:41] <karmikaze> heh
[07:41] <karmikaze> yeah read all that
[07:41] <karmikaze> just been looking for some word of mouth
[07:42] <karmikaze> ie, if anyone has a working pci wifi card, what is it
[07:42] <dddude55> me too, im still having trouble with a card that shouldnt
[07:42] <karmikaze> yeah
[07:42] <karmikaze> which is why im afraid to buy any card now
[07:42] <karmikaze> misadvertised chipsets, and configuration horror stories
[07:42] <karmikaze> i might just buy another ethernet bridge and avoid the whole problem
[07:42] <dddude55> lol just look up a card you like, then check out some support pages
[07:42] <karmikaze> yeah thats what ive done
[07:42] <dwidmann> and now we know why I haven't gotten a laptop.
[07:42] <karmikaze> and its put me off every card :P
[07:42] <karmikaze> i got a laptop, laptop wifi is fine
[07:43] <dddude55> lol
[07:43] <karmikaze> ive installed kubuntu on three systems no issues
[07:43] <karmikaze> its desktop wifi thats the nightmare
[07:43] <dwidmann> Really?
[07:43] <dddude55> ok i got a quewstion
[07:43] <dddude55> i have 2 XP coimps
[07:43] <dwidmann> But with a non-mobile desktop, why not just wire it? It's faster that way anyway
[07:43] <dddude55> the one on the wire is getting 578 KB.sec right now
[07:43] <dddude55> where as the wireless one got 50 KB/sec
[07:43] <dddude55> any way i can fix that?
[07:43] <karmikaze> if i could get an internet connection i bloody would wire it
[07:44] <karmikaze> but im not allowed to get one
[07:44] <karmikaze> so i have to nick wifi :P
[07:44] <dwidmann> That's pathetically slow, but I have no idea why.
[07:44] <karmikaze> which my laptop does then nat's to my desktop
[07:44] <karmikaze> ridiculous
[07:44] <dwidmann> I get about 10MBs
[07:44] <karmikaze> on the wire
[07:44] <karmikaze> any number of things can ruin a wifi conection
[07:44] <dwidmann> when I switch the nic in my parents computer and brothers computer I'll get a good 30-60MBs
[07:44] <dddude55> lol i was like 'wtf wont my page open
[07:44] <karmikaze> heh
[07:44] <dddude55> it was waiting for the password still
[07:45] <karmikaze> weird
[07:45] <dddude55> what does malformed url mean
[07:46] <karmikaze> means something is typed wrong
[07:46] <karmikaze> like htp://
[07:46] <karmikaze> or htt:// whatever
[07:46] <karmikaze> or ww.blah.com
[07:46] <karmikaze> malformed.
[07:46] <dddude55> and that can happen when opening text files?
[07:47] <karmikaze> >_>
[07:47] <dwidmann> Sure
[07:47] <dddude55> oh how do i modprobe a driver?
[07:47] <karmikaze> modprobe drivername
[07:47] <dwidmann> modprobe <drivername>
[07:47] <HymnToLife> dddude55, sudo modprobe foobar
[07:47] <dddude55> grr
[07:47] <karmikaze> lsmod will list the options
[07:47] <karmikaze> list whats probeable anyway
[07:47] <dddude55> i forget the exact spelling of it, the orinoco ones
[07:47] <dwidmann> lsmod knows the correct spelling
[07:48] <HymnToLife> dddude55, you can use tab
[07:48] <dddude55> module pmcia not found lol
[07:49] <dddude55> and i dont see the drivers lol
[07:49] <dddude55> hmmm
[07:49] <karmikaze> lspci
[07:49] <dddude55> well im downloading the expert install so maybe that will help...
[07:50] <dddude55> 0000:02:01.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1420
[07:50] <dddude55> 0000:02:01.1 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1420
[07:50] <gustav> anybody that knows what might be wrong when i get this :
[07:50] <gustav> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[07:50] <gustav> Checking for non power of two texture support   : failed
[07:50] <dddude55> doesnt say theres a card
[07:50] <gustav> I'm trying to get aiglx and beryl to work
[07:51] <watus> #lms
[07:52] <dddude55> no plugin for shockwave, please downlaod...
[07:52] <dddude55> lol
[07:52] <BluesKaj> gustav, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-c966b2cb7c82944d6883f27a2896725db3b90a3a
[07:53] <BluesKaj> sorry gustav , wrong page ..hang on
[07:53] <dddude55> wtf ark fail;ed to extract a .tar.gz
[07:54] <BluesKaj> gustav, try this page : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLXOnEdgy
[07:55] <gustav> I've been doing that
[07:55] <gustav> But I suspect there is some ati specific bug that messes stuff up :S
[07:55] <gustav> I'm browsing some froums but thanks
[07:55] <fribuntu> Hi all!
[07:55] <fribuntu> Is anyone using TeX/LaTeX under Kubuntu? I have a question regarding packages ...
[07:55] <dddude55> anyone know why ark wont unzip a .tar.gz
[07:56] <TheInfinity> try starting it in shell and look for errors displayed in shell
[07:56] <TheInfinity> @ dddude55
[07:56] <Ace2016> missing deps?
[07:56] <Lil_Eagle> dddude55: perhaps the .tar.gz is corrupt.
[07:57] <darthdual> Can anybody tell me what the linux restricted non-free modules are.  And does that mean that there are some parts of linux that are not freely distributable.  And does that imply legal mumbo-jumbo that would basically make linux no better than windows.
[07:57] <BluesKaj> dddude55, try' tar -zvxf file name.tar.gz'
[07:57] <dddude55> kio (KMimeType): WARNING: mimetype not valid '' (missing entry in the file ?)
[07:58] <Lil_Eagle> darthdual: Yes and not.  (k)ubuntu has non-free components in it.  Want all free, get gNewSense.
[07:58] <TheInfinity> darthdual: for example mp3 support in linux is half legal, you dont pay something to the owners from mp3
[07:58] <Lil_Eagle> TheInfinity: MP3 is not in restricted...
[07:58] <TheInfinity> but at last same problem or am I wrong?
[07:59] <dddude55> hmm idk why i got an error but the stuff is all extracted
[07:59] <TheInfinity> because sometimes the licence situation is not really clear?
[07:59] <TheInfinity> or sometimes not open source?
[07:59] <darthdual> Thanks , I will try gNewSense.  Is that the only one you know of Lil_Eagle.
[07:59] <Lil_Eagle> TheInfinity: Exactly.
[08:00] <TheInfinity> so resricted means no open source, while universe contains not licenced software?
[08:00] <Lil_Eagle> darthdual: No, there are others.  Debian is also free of "commercial" influnence.
[08:01] <Lil_Eagle> AFAIK, it's multiverse that has the legality issue.
[08:01] <darthdual> TheInfinity....What do you mean the licsense isn't really clear......Ok, debian is good.  I already have that.
[08:01] <TheInfinity> arg i mean multiverse
[08:01] <TheInfinity> for example for mp3 support you have to pay
[08:01] <Lil_Eagle> Some people claim patent on MP3.
[08:02] <dddude55> umm flash wants me to point to mozilla, seamonkey, or firefox path and i dont have those installed
[08:02] <Lil_Eagle> I disagree.  To me, you can patent things, but not ideas.
[08:03] <Lil_Eagle> brb
[08:03] <TheInfinity> yes, and if ideas not a doubleclick, thats no idea ...
[08:03] <dddude55> !firefox
[08:03] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[08:03] <darthdual> Yes, I never understood that.  How can someone even patent software, because there are so many ways to do the same thing, that all you are left with is a patented Idea.
[08:04] <TheInfinity> thats the wrong argument darthdual ;)
[08:04] <darthdual> TheInfinity, How?
[08:04] <TheInfinity> it is a specific algoritm you patent
[08:04] <TheInfinity> there is a open source alternative to mp3 - ogg
[08:05] <TheInfinity> but if you implement mp3 you have to implement this specific algorithm
[08:05] <darthdual> Yes, but every algorithim has an alternate, doesn't it?
[08:05] <TheInfinity> not the basic idea
[08:05] <TheInfinity> you can write while() instead of for(;;) - of course - but the idea behind is the same
[08:06] <darthdual> Like, what I'm saying is, that 2 mathematicians often solve a problem in different ways, and I'm arguing that they solved the same problem algorithmically different, but got the same solution.
[08:07] <TheInfinity> then you have another format
[08:07] <TheInfinity> like ogg
[08:07] <darthdual>  O.K., That gives a different patent?
[08:07] <TheInfinity> but its a plague to get for example mobile ogg players ...
[08:07] <TheInfinity> no ogg is the open source alternative to mp3 and other audio compressing codecs
[08:08] <TheInfinity> but almost nobody uses it
[08:08] <darthdual> I think what you're saying just crystalized in my brain.
[08:09] <TheInfinity> theres no DRM in it for example
[08:09] <TheInfinity> so the RIAA and other organisations dont like it
[08:09] <TheInfinity> and theres no company behind it
[08:09] <dddude55> well its almost time for me to run the expert install again lol
[08:09] <dddude55> im going to disconnect now
[08:10] <dddude55> lata guys
[08:10] <Gekokufox> Guys, I found the stuff I need for my Acer laptop... the Acer ACPI module... but after I make install, it won't let me modprobe.
[08:10] <NightBird> bye
[08:10] <darthdual> lata
[08:10] <Gekokufox> Anyone know why?  It tells me: FATAL: Error inserting acer_acpi (/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/extra/acer_acpi.ko): Operation not permitted
[08:10] <Gekokufox> And I am running it with su
[08:10] <Gekokufox> Tried with kdesu too
[08:11] <TheInfinity> its the same with video codecs, most video codecs on a usual linux mashine are not legal
[08:11] <HymnToLife> Gekokufox, is there any more info in dmesg ?
[08:11] <Gekokufox> dmesg?  I'm kinda new to this...
[08:12] <darthdual> But, I have one dilema with the whole patent law,.........You can't patent a math formula, but a math formula can represent an algorithm or psuedo-code.  How does that work?
[08:13] <Gekokufox> Wait I figured it out...
[08:13] <darthdual> I suppose the difference is a bunch of legal jargon tagged along with it.
[08:13] <TheInfinity> you can patent everything in USA
[08:13] <TheInfinity> even doubleclicks
[08:13] <underdog5004> anyone know how to make a local DNS cache on my server?
[08:14] <TheInfinity> or shopping cards in online shops
[08:14] <Gekokufox> dsemg tells me
[08:14] <Gekokufox> [17181197.588000]  acer_acpi: Acer Laptop ACPI Extras version 0.3
[08:14] <Gekokufox> [17181197.588000]  acer_acpi: No WMI interface, unable to load.
[08:14] <LjL> underdog5004: i use "dnsmasq", but many other DNS servers will do
[08:14] <LjL> Ubotu, tell underdog5004 about dnsmasq | underdog5004, see the private message from Ubotu
[08:14] <TheInfinity> and you can patent math formula in usa if its a new concept
[08:14] <underdog5004> LjL, thank you
[08:15] <darthdual> New concept?
[08:16] <darthdual> No wonder the legal system is such a maze.  How about this.  We open source everything even mechanical stuff.  I bet within years we will have invented everything major for the next 1000 years.
[08:18] <d0dge> Why am I having an error EVERY time I Make?
[08:18] <NightBird> darthdual, the original idea for the patent system was to let others see what you did, and make improvements...
[08:18] <d0dge> "make: *** [install]  Error 2"
[08:19] <darthdual> NightBird.....sounds like open source to me
[08:19] <extern> d0dge, look above for the real error, with some explanation
[08:20] <NightBird> darthdual: indeed
[08:20] <darthdual> It seems to hinder more than benefit now.  I mean, I understand rewarding people for their effort, but things move so fast now that individual effort is worthless.
[08:21] <d0dge> extern: everything it does when I 'make install' is error :D
[08:21] <goodthing> d0dge: what are you trying to install? Have you read the INSTALL or README files? Were there any errors when running configure?
[08:21] <NightBird> yeah.... they've changed it to be a means to protect your ideas, not make them available for others to improve...
[08:21] <extern> try sudo make install
[08:21] <NightBird> that's why you see most things be 'patent pending', which means they don't have a patent, but they could defend it...
[08:21] <darthdual> NightBird,,,True,
[08:22] <d0dge> goodthing: I'm trying to install this FakeNES emulator, and no, no errors on configuring
[08:22] <d0dge> extern: Didn't work out :/
[08:22] <NightBird> d0dge, what about make?
[08:22] <NightBird> when you run just make, what errors occur there?
[08:23] <d0dge> NightBird: Same thing
[08:23] <NightBird> no errors?
[08:23] <d0dge> All I get is 100 rows of error
[08:23] <NightBird> are you running make install as a super user?
[08:23] <NightBird> from the make command?
[08:24] <d0dge> NightBird: I've tried as su and normal user
[08:24] <NightBird> so it's "make install" that is giving errors, not "./configure" or "make"?
[08:25] <d0dge> NightBird: 'make install' and 'make' but not ./configure
[08:25] <NightBird> make install should give errors if make is giving errors...
[08:25] <NightBird> where specifically is make failing?
[08:25] <blue|palm> Hi, can anybody tell me how to smooth out overly large pixels in low quality .avi files? Im using kaffiene
[08:26] <skarface> blue|palm: watch it from across the room?
[08:29] <blue|palm> skarface: lol, a solution but not really one i was looking for
[08:30] <goodthing> blue|palm:  you mean deinterlacing?
[08:30] <blue|palm> On windows I used to use the free opensource (i think) media player classic and combined with ffdshow it could make any low quality file watchable on a 24 inch widescreen
[08:30] <blue|palm> goodthing: yes, but the tv deinterlacing dialogue doesnt seem to have any effect when i change stuff
[08:31] <goodthing> blue|palm: tried crtl+i to set it higher?
[08:31] <blue|palm> goodthing: ive tried that, its on full at present, which looks no different from the bottom setting
[08:31] <knapp> Whats the best program to use to get a .avi onto a cd-r?
[08:31] <knapp> I mean... to make a VCD
[08:32] <fribuntu> knapp: You can use dvdrip? It is a gui for transcode and several other tools.
[08:33] <rexbron> hey, where does kubuntu keep the splashscreen and kdm login screen files?
[08:34] <fribuntu> I have some problems with apt-get connecting to any server, because it keeps forgetting the "http_proxy" settings. Can someone tell me where to store that variable, so it is still known after reboot?
[08:34] <blue|palm> how do you know whether libavcodec is being used?
[08:37] <blue|palm> does anybody know what gstreamer is?
[08:37] <underdog5004> blue|palm, I do
[08:37] <underdog5004> It's wonderful
[08:37] <blue|palm> please tell :)
[08:37] <DB_Jroen> weet iemand waar ik adept package manager kan downen?
[08:38] <knapp> fribuntu: I don't think it will read an avi.
[08:38] <SSJ_GZ> !gstreamer
[08:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gstreamer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:38] <underdog5004> blue|palm, basically, it's an index (w/ a gui) of internet radio stations.
[08:38] <blue|palm> oh cool
[08:38] <blue|palm> what is the main package called?
[08:38] <blue|palm> there are
[08:38] <underdog5004> idk...
[08:38] <blue|palm> loads of packages in adept
[08:39] <underdog5004> h/o
[08:39] <ubuntu__> hi everybody
[08:39] <fribuntu> knapp: Aren't VCDs mpeg encoded, not DivX or whatever is in the avi container?
[08:39] <malik> gstreamer is a type of audio codecs n there are alot of them
[08:39] <underdog5004> oh, whoops, blue|palm , streamtuner is the index of internet radios
[08:40] <blue|palm> oh
[08:40] <ubuntu__> I need to install vnvplayer into my kubuntu... anyone has any idea about this???
[08:40] <ubuntu__> I really need help
[08:40] <blue|palm> so how do you use gstreamer (example the ffmpeg plugin)
[08:40] <underdog5004> I don't know what gstreamer is...I think it's a backend for internet radio access. Many media players use it as a plugin...
[08:40] <fribuntu> knapp: So if you really mean to make a VCD, then you will need to transcode. There should be a tutorial on how to use transcode.
[08:40] <knapp> yeah
[08:40] <knapp> ok
[08:40] <knapp> thnx
[08:40] <blue|palm> so how do you use gstreamer (example the ffmpeg plugin)
[08:41] <underdog5004> blue|palm, I don't know...I used automatix to install it...sorry
[08:41] <fribuntu> knapp: try here http://www.transcoding.org/cgi-bin/transcode
[08:41] <ubuntu__> any idea?
[08:42] <malik> !vnvplayer
[08:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vnvplayer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:42] <underdog5004> ubuntu__, what do you need help w/ ?
[08:42] <mambo> thks ubotu
[08:42] <blue|palm> i dont know anything about vnvplayer
[08:43] <blue|palm> maybe its called something else?
[08:43] <caris_mere> I am having a problem using a chat room, something about my flash player...
[08:43] <mambo> vmware player
[08:43] <mambo> or vmware workstation
[08:44] <malik> blue|palm: what are u trying to do?........u want mp3 support with the help of gstreamer codecs or u want to install internet radio ?
[08:44] <caris_mere> The room works with another computer I use with edubuntu, but it doesn't work with my personal comp.
[08:44] <blue|palm> malik: I wanted to know what gstreamer is :)
[08:44] <blue|palm> malik: I got interested when i saw the gstreamer ffmpeg codec
[08:45] <malik> blue|palm: also are u usiing kubuntu edgy or ubuntu edgy............gstreamers are for ubuntu which is Gnome based audio players
[08:45] <blue|palm> malik: My aim is actually to get clear video on linux like i have on windows
[08:45] <blue|palm> malik: so i dont really need gstreamer
[08:45] <caris_mere> can anybody help me with flash problems?
[08:45] <malik> blue|palm: are u using kubuntu?......kubuntu uses libxine-extra codecs
[08:46] <blue|palm> malik: im using kubuntu yes
[08:46] <malik> ubuntu uses gstreamers which are pain
[08:46] <malik> too many of them and they dont really co habitate well although they get the job done
[08:46] <makuseru> hi, i try to do a "apt-get -f install" to fix some problems, and i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3663/ can someone please help me
[08:47] <goodthing> caris_mere: some chat pages require either flash or java, java you can install but flash is proprieraty so it's not in the repository
[08:47] <blue|palm> malik: the libxine-extracodecs are installed. If you have ever used ffdshow on win then you would have seen what you can do to low quality avi files
[08:47] <mambo> thks i found the docs about vmware player
[08:47] <caris_mere> goodthing: I installed but I get an error..."A script in this movie is causing MFP 7 to run slowly...etc."
[08:47] <waylandbill> makuseru: you could dpkg -i --force-overwrite if you know the files are compatible.
[08:48] <blue|palm> malik: Im trying to get the same effect: using filters etc. to beef up low quality files but no filter in kaffiene is actually working for me :(
[08:48] <indygo> I just downloaded the live CD of Kubuntu, and I was wondering, how long should it take to partition the hard drive?
[08:48] <malik> on top of that if u have w32codecs and mplayer installed then u have everything u will need in kubuntu
[08:48] <caris_mere> indygo: it only took moments for me
[08:48] <blue|palm> malik: mplayer doesnt work for me at all :(
[08:48] <malik> blue|palm: how come?
[08:48] <mambo> it depends of your machine
[08:49] <indygo> what should i do if it's taking about 20 minutes? try again?
[08:49] <indygo> I've got a brand new HP
[08:49] <mambo> it is blocked?
[08:49] <malik> !f
[08:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about f - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:49] <blue|palm> malik: it loads up, and depending on what video driver ive selected within mplayer, it might load up the video. then it gives an error message...
[08:49] <makuseru> waylandbill:ill try that
[08:49] <goodthing> caris_mere: do not see this as an advise, but you could also update to flash9 from another repository, maybe that will get you there
[08:49] <blue|palm> im using an ati card with the ati website drivers installed
[08:49] <mambo> indygo: it is blocked?
[08:50] <indygo> umm, I don't think so...
[08:50] <caris_mere> goodthing: what other repository would that be?
[08:50] <malik> blue|palm: heheheheheh big mistake to muck around with video or audio output codec tabs in mplayer..........for some reason tweaking doesnt work but if u leave it alone it will play anything and everything u ll throw at it
[08:51] <goodthing> caris_mere: google for seveas
[08:51] <waylandbill> I have code from an svn. Is there a simple way to diff to a tag like Cervisia can do?
[08:51] <Seveas> !seveas
[08:51] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[08:51] <malik> blue|palm: atleast thats how it was with me
[08:51] <Seveas> goodthing, but flash9 is in -backports as well
[08:52] <goodthing> oops, didn't know that, sorry :o (i don't use flash myself)
[08:52] <malik> i changed settings in mplayer and it stopped working i had to purge delete and then restart comp and then install it again n then i left the config settings alone and now it polays everything
[08:52] <makuseru> waylandbill: that didnt do anything, it just gave me some information
[08:52] <blue|palm> malik: lol, it didnt work in the beginning, only after tweaking did i get video onto screen :(
[08:53] <indygo> If I used a different partition editor than the one in the install package, would that work?
[08:53] <goodthing> caris_mere: so what said above, just use the backports
[08:53] <malik> indygo: it should :)
[08:53] <indygo> Cool :)  Thanks!
[08:53] <malik> blue|palm: bummer
[08:54] <blue|palm> malik: what gfx card do you have?
[08:54] <caris_mere> goodthing: ok, I am trying. thanks
[08:55] <d0dge> How can I shut down a jammed window? Is there anything like 'task manager' or so
[08:55] <malik> blue|palm: really old something called Geforce 440mx something like that.......its nvidia 64mb
[08:55] <blue|palm> malik: how do you install the win32 codecs? for mplayer?
 strg+alt+esc and lick on the jammed window
[08:56] <makuseru> hi, i try to do a "apt-get -f install" to fix some problems, and i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3663/ can someone please help me
[08:57] <malik> blue|palm: sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[08:57] <waylandbill> makuseru: you didn't say what the other 'information' was.
[08:58] <d0dge> dr0hne: Thanks, I accidently closed my taskbar :D
[08:59] <d0dge> dr0hne: But problem solved now, thanks for help
[08:59] <caris_mere> goodthing: I never found something called macromedia 9, but I did install some flash plugin, and now it's worse
you musst click on the blue top of the window
its like kill<pid>
[09:00] <makuseru> join #ubuntu
[09:00] <d0dge> dr0hne: Yeah got it
[09:01] <makuseru> waylandbill: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3725/
[09:03] <goodthing> caris_mere: the macromedia plugin is called "flashplugin-nonfree"
[09:03] <waylandbill> makuseru: it's --force-overwrite (gnu style double hyphen at the beginning)
[09:03] <duffyd> hi all. I've tried to install kubuntu twice now on my laptop but every time it goes to write grub to the hard disk drive it crashes - 93% through the install! Anyone know what the issue could be?
[09:04] <moshea> evening ... I'm fed up with krdc/krfb ... what's a good alternative ?
[09:04] <moshea> gnome meeting ?
[09:04] <moshea> or xvncviewer ?
[09:04] <moshea> ... or something else ?
[09:04] <caris_mere> goodthing: thanks, found it
[09:05] <duffyd> My guess is that this is related to my drive having existing partitions on it - they are Windows XP and a Dell utility partition
[09:06] <moshea> what's a good remote desktop tool ?
[09:06] <moshea> krdc/krfb is really slow ... are there alternatives ?
vnc?
or if you're remoting windows rdesktop
[09:07] <duffyd> moshea: what platform you trying to connect to?
[09:08] <moshea> ubuntu to ubuntu
[09:08] <caris_mere> goodthing: that worked.  Thanks again
[09:08] <moshea> both machines have gnome *and* KDE installed
[09:08] <goodthing> yw
[09:09] <moshea> dr0hne: is xvncviewer a good choice ?
[09:09] <moshea> can I control the remote desktop with that ?
[09:09] <hatta> what does vnc do that regular x forwarding doesn't?
[09:10] <duffyd> moshea: then xvncviewer
[09:10] <moshea> hatta: I don't know ... that's why I'm asking
[09:10] <duffyd> moshea: yes
[09:10] <moshea> duffyd: ok, thanks for the tip
[09:10] <duffyd> np
[09:11] <moshea> I'm looking at the manpages for xvncviewer, it mentions a VNC server ... does thi require extra setup on the remote box ?
[09:11] <blue|palm> what repository are the win32 codecs located on? because by apt cant install it...
[09:12] <duffyd> anyone for any help on the kubuntu installer?
[09:12] <duffyd> I'm using the 6.10 Edgy installer CDS
[09:12] <duffyd> CD
[09:12] <moshea> duffyd: ...or can I just go ahead and point my xvncviewer at any old IP address ?
[09:12] <blue|palm> what repository are the win32 codecs located on? because my apt cant install it...
[09:12] <moshea> (the IP of the remote box)
[09:12] <duffyd> moshea: you need to have the vncserver running on the remote box
[09:12] <moshea> duffyd: oh ok, thanks
[09:13] <duffyd> and you also need to ensure that you don't have a firewall inbetween that's blogging 590x
[09:13] <duffyd> i.e. blocking
[09:15] <blue|palm> can anybody help me with the win32 codecs on kubuntu please?
[09:19] <Lil_Eagle> blue|palm: http://www.getautomatix.com
[09:20] <indygo> I'm wanting to manually edit my partition because the installer is unable to automatically do it.  Can anyone point me to a walkthrough for this?
[09:21] <Lil_Eagle> indygo: Want CLI or GUI?
[09:21] <indygo> gui please
[09:21] <Lil_Eagle> indygo:  qtparted
[09:22] <hammer2> whats the odds of someone being able to help me with this massive mess
[09:22] <hammer2> http://pastebin.ca/336077
[09:23] <indygo> Ahh, found it :)  Thanks a lot Lil_Eagle
[09:23] <Lil_Eagle> hammmer.  1) We're Kubuntu, not Mepis, 2) you need gpg keys.
[09:24] <indygo> hmm... is there a walkthrough for using qtparted to do the initial setup?
[09:24] <hammer2> ok so thats a bad repo eh?
[09:24] <waylandbill> kubuntu=white meat. mepis=the other white meat. ;-)
[09:25] <hammer2> if i restore original sources.list will that correct everything?
[09:25] <Lil_Eagle> hammer2: You can do that... it might fix it.  You also might try source-o-matic.
[09:25] <makuseru> hi, i have a problem, i have som ebroken packages that i cant remove, when i try it says use "-f" but that doest work, neither does "
[09:26] <makuseru> autoremove"
[09:26] <makuseru> how can i remove the packages
[09:26] <waylandbill> makuseru: how
[09:26] <waylandbill> 'd they get broken?
[09:26] <firecrotch> makuseru:  sudo apt-get remove packagename
[09:26] <Lil_Eagle> waylandbill: and debian then?
[09:26] <makuseru> firecrotch: that was the FIRST thing i tried
[09:27] <makuseru> waylandbill: i dont know
[09:27] <firecrotch> makuseru: ah, well then, forgive me, I missed the first part of your problem
[09:27] <waylandbill> Lil_Eagle: debian's the kosher version.
[09:28] <waylandbill> makuseru: ok. what error does it give you now when you try the -f?
[09:28] <Lil_Eagle> makuseru: pastbin it.
[09:28] <Lil_Eagle> makuseru: pastebin it.
[09:29] <indygo> I'm trying to use qtparted to resize my windows partition, but when I try to resize it, an error message comes up saying "Filesystem check failed!"  Is there something else I need to do under windows first before I can repartition the drive?
[09:30] <Forum_user> EXOTICS ADULT FORUM ::::::: http://exotics.ezbbforum.com
[09:30] <goodthing> !pastebin | makuseru
[09:30] <ubotu> makuseru: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:30] <Lil_Eagle> indygo: chkdisk /f
[09:30] <Forum_user> EXOTICS ADULT FORUM ::::::: http://exotics.ezbbforum.com
[09:30] <makuseru> i know what pastebin is
[09:30] <goodthing> k :)
[09:30] <Forum_user> ALL P O R N AND ADULT ARCHIEVES :)
[09:30] <Forum_user> EXOTICS ADULT FORUM ::::::: http://exotics.ezbbforum.com
[09:30] <goodthing> someone needs to kick Forum_user
[09:30] <Lil_Eagle> no ops here.
[09:30] <makuseru> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3729/
[09:31] <Lil_Eagle> I lied
[09:31] <rashed202> Hello everyone
[09:32] <goodthing> hi rashed202
[09:32] <Lil_Eagle> makuseru: remove all of beryl and try again.  Want a list of all the beryl packages?
[09:32] <waylandbill> makuseru: you trying to remove libjack and stuff? it's the beryl that's gotta go
[09:33] <Lil_Eagle> I killed mine earlier today.  No crashes since.  Made a nice list of all the packages.
[09:33] <waylandbill> that is still alpha yet and can lead you into quagmires. :-)
[09:33] <Lil_Eagle> and learned to use aptitude instead of apt-get in the future.
[09:34] <waylandbill> aptitude is like a loyal puppy. nice to have around.
[09:34] <rashed202> Guys, how do I change the refresh rate for the installation?
[09:34] <Lil_Eagle> Yeah, and aptitude remembers what it installs.
[09:34] <indygo> Lil_Eagle: When I type that in on the terminal it says that the command was not found.  Can the console be affected by whether you are running from a live CD?
[09:34] <rashed202> I'm using a TV to install and the screen just keeps scrolling vertically
[09:35] <Lil_Eagle> then apt-get install aptitude
[09:35] <makuseru> waylandbill: im tryingn to get the beryl stuff gone
[09:36] <makuseru> Lil_Eagle: i cant, it gives me that error when i try
[09:36] <waylandbill> because dpkg is in the middle of a task. :-/
[09:36] <Lil_Eagle> Hmm.  you'll have to use dpkg.
[09:37] <makuseru> how?
[09:38] <Lil_Eagle> I can't help on that one.  man or info dpkg and stay up all night reading it.
[09:39] <makuseru> i would rather reinstall than deal with that
[09:40] <Lil_Eagle> makuseru: is your /home on a different partition?
[09:40] <makuseru> no
[09:40] <Lil_Eagle> You might want to backup first, then reinstall and make a separate partition for /home.  It saves you A LOT of hassle.
[09:41] <moparisthebest> has anyone succesfully got adobe shockwave and/or flash working on kubuntu amd64 architecture?
[09:41] <makuseru> my drive is so small i dont dont want to do more than one partition
[09:41] <_StefanS_> moparisthebest:
[09:41] <Lil_Eagle> makuseru: how big?
[09:41] <moparisthebest> adobe doesn't supply a 64 bit version, and the few free alternatives I have tried from adept (like gnash) don't work
[09:41] <makuseru> 6gb
[09:41] <_StefanS_> moparisthebest: think you need a wrapper
[09:42] <_StefanS_> moparisthebest: can't remember its name though
[09:42] <Lil_Eagle> Ouch!  I imagine it's a OLD computer.
[09:42] <moparisthebest> hmm, Ill try to search some more _StefanS_
[09:42] <makuseru> no
[09:42] <makuseru> its a great computer, but my 180gb drive gave out
[09:42] <_StefanS_> moparisthebest: it was mentioned in the last linux format, what the heck was its name...
[09:42] <hammer2> l<Lil_Eagle>how i do source o matic?
[09:43] <hammer2> i set my sources back to normal and didnt seem to help
[09:43] <zorglu_> q. i need to upgrade a dapper into edgy soon, is there a page explaining the process and the possible issues i may encounter ?
[09:43] <Lil_Eagle> www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[09:44] <zorglu_> !edgy
[09:44] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[09:44] <underdog5004> so, why can't xmms share the ALSA? I know kaffeine can play sound while I've got sound going in firefox, but I can't do the same w/ xmms. If I've got sound going in FF, then xmms pops up "Sound card not configured" message. If I am listening to sound in xmms, then there is no sound in FF. Any solutions?
[09:45] <moparisthebest> _StefanS_, nspluginwrapper?
[09:45] <_StefanS_> moparisthebest: yea thats the one :D
[09:45] <rashed202> Guys, when I run the installation it's unviewable.. the screen just keeps scrolling vertically.. any fixes???
[09:45] <moparisthebest> ok, thanks, Ill get to work on that then :)
[09:45] <crimsun> underdog5004: cat /proc/asound/modules
[09:45] <_StefanS_> moparisthebest: I haven't tried it though.. I've got a em64t, but use x86 only
[09:46] <indygo> Okay, I've gotten the installer to continue past the partition stage, but it came up with an error "No root partition"  will I be able to fix that later?
[09:46] <moparisthebest> I got a core 2 duo and figured Id go with a 64 bit OS, its a bit more of a problem then it is worth really :/
[09:46] <Lil_Eagle> hammer2: try this link:  http://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt
[09:46] <zorglu_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades <- talk about gksu "update-manager -c" but my kubuntu dapper doesnt have a update-manager program, what is the equivalent for kubuntu ?
[09:47] <underdog5004>  0 snd_intel8x0   1 snd_mpu401   2 snd_usb_audio    0 is my soundcard, 1 I have no idea about, 2 is my headset for skype...
[09:47] <julien_> SALUT JE VEUX ALLER SUR UBUNTU.FR
[09:47] <underdog5004> indygo, you need to restart the installer
[09:47] <zorglu_> julien_: type "/join #ubuntu-fr"
[09:47] <underdog5004> indygo, it's a known bug...
[09:47] <crimsun> underdog5004: and which one are you using when you get those symptoms?
[09:47] <underdog5004> 0
[09:47] <indygo> ahh, I see.  Thanks :)
[09:47] <underdog5004> the intel card
[09:47] <crimsun> underdog5004: are you using Flash 7 or Flash 9?
[09:47] <underdog5004> Flash 9
[09:48] <duffyd> moparisthebest: I've got a Core 2 Duo as well so unsure whether I want to go 64-bit or not
[09:48] <moshea> duffyd: hey, works a treat ! Thanks !
[09:48] <duffyd> moshea: np, anytime :-)
[09:48] <crimsun> underdog5004: and what audio device is xmms configured to use?
[09:48] <underdog5004> ALSA mixer, with the intel card...
[09:48] <crimsun> underdog5004: no, the device, not the driver.
[09:48] <moparisthebest> duffyd, so far it has just been a few headaches getting programs to work, without much noticeable improvement
[09:49] <moshea> duffyd: and it works *SO* blindingly fast, it kinda pisses me off to think about how much time I wasted using krfb/kdrc
[09:49] <jamaur> hey everyone, I have a question: if my cpu overheats, will my machine just instantly stop, as if I've just unplugged it?   (I have an ASUS p5p800 motherboard with a pentium 4 3GHz 800 MHz FSB 1MB L2 Cache with hyper threading)
[09:49] <moparisthebest> not enough problems to make me switch back, just enough to be slightly annoying, know what I mean? :P
[09:49] <zorglu_> !info gcc
[09:49] <ubotu> gcc: The GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.1-6ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 5 kB, installed size 64 kB
[09:49] <moshea> I wonder why krfb/krdc are still distributed
[09:49] <zorglu_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades <- talk about gksu "update-manager -c" but my kubuntu dapper doesnt have a update-manager program, what is the equivalent for kubuntu ?
[09:50] <Lil_Eagle> moparisthebest: I switched back.
[09:50] <underdog5004> lemme post a pic...h/o
[09:50] <moshea> I'm upgrading my dad's Breezy machine to 6.06 LTS ... can I then make it upgrade to 6.10 from there ?
[09:50] <duffyd> moshea: ;-)
[09:50] <duffyd> moparisthebest: yeah. I had similar problems trying to get Debian Unstable installed on my lappy - enough to make me stop trying anyway :-)
[09:51] <moparisthebest> I think I can handle it, the 64-bit architecture is getting better supported every day
[09:51] <mortici> is there any reason why all my fonts in firefox are stupid small?
[09:51] <underdog5004> http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/5881/snapshot3wb2.jpg
[09:51] <mortici> like not readable small?
[09:51] <indygo> Well, I restarted the installer, now it says "failed to partition the selected disk"  I selected to install in the largest continuous free space.
[09:52] <moparisthebest> eventually it will be fully supported... (cross your fingers :P)
[09:52] <moparisthebest> morfic, just the content? or the menu bar too?
[09:52] <underdog5004> indygo, do a manual partition
[09:52] <moparisthebest> *mortici
[09:52] <indygo> ok
[09:52] <mortici> the content
[09:52] <mortici> seems
[09:52] <mortici> after a reboot
[09:53] <mortici> all my fonts went wacko on me
[09:53] <moparisthebest> mortici, hold ctrl and roll the mouse wheel
[09:53] <zorglu_> q. is there a update-manager kindof stuff on kubuntu dapper ?
[09:53] <underdog5004> indygo, delete all partitions, then make a small (1Gb) swap partition at the end of unallocated space, then a big one (ext3) for the remaining space
[09:54] <mortici> now to explain why the buttons are overly large
[09:54] <indygo> Can't delete all of them, family still wants windows...
[09:54] <underdog5004> crimsun, http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/5881/snapshot3wb2.jpg
[09:54] <underdog5004> indygo, ah, ok, well then delete all linux partitions
[09:55] <ubuntu__> hello
[09:55] <ubuntu__> i can't mount my ntfs partition in on the livecd of kubuntu
[09:55] <ubuntu__> can somebody help me?
[09:55] <mortici> moparisthebest: umm when i restart the browser their still small
[09:56] <Lil_Eagle> If you have more than 512MB of RAM, you don't need more than 256MB of swap.
[09:56] <moparisthebest> thats really strange mortici , you must have changed a default or something :/
 thanks for the responds
[09:56] <mortici> moparisthebest: seems its only gtk apps
[09:56] <mortici> cause konq is fine :/
[09:56] <the_hammer> decided that its likely alot faster just to redo everything
[09:56] <indygo> Will it run faster with more than 256, or will I compromise performance with too much swap?
[09:57] <the_hammer> take alot less time to reinstall then to fix 39 broken keys
[09:57] <underdog5004> indygo, no, and no
[09:57] <Lil_Eagle> the_hammer: you might be right.  One thing I like is that Kubuntu installs in 20 mins or so.
[09:57] <moparisthebest> mortici, try upgrading or uninstalling and reinstalling gtk maybe?
[09:57] <mortici> :/
[09:57] <moparisthebest> Ive never had that problem, its strange
[09:57] <mortici> ill figure it out
[09:57] <Lil_Eagle> but then you need to tweak it.
[09:57] <moparisthebest> maybe someone else can help you out with it, sorry :/
[09:57] <weirdo_> hey guys... some of you know the name of the german ubuntu channel? sry.. ive forgotten it
[09:58] <ajboorde> How do I mounts .iso in k/ubuntu
[09:58] <Lil_Eagle> !german
[09:58] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:58] <indygo> lol, thanks :P  Is there something specific I have to name the partitions?  Or if I'm feeling creative, can I name them anything?
[09:58] <underdog5004> crimsun, hello?
[09:58] <weirdo_> thx a lot... yu guys
[09:58] <crimsun> underdog5004: be patient, I'm at work.
[09:58] <underdog5004> crimsun, thank you.
[09:58] <underdog5004> crimsun, I mean...sorry
[09:59] <ajboorde> How do I mounts .iso in k/ubuntu. It is not wanting to mount
[09:59] <Lil_Eagle> indygo: sure thing.
[09:59] <crimsun> underdog5004: you're using the wrong device.
[09:59] <moparisthebest> ajboorde, open this in konqueror: help:/kubuntu/desktopguide/burning-cds.html
[09:59] <crimsun> underdog5004: change it to (type in) default
[09:59] <moparisthebest> scroll down to the bottom and it tells you how ajboorde :)
[09:59] <underdog5004> crimsun, ok
[10:00] <underdog5004> h/o
[10:00] <indygo> Cool :D  Last question:  Is 7 GB enough of a partition size?
[10:00] <underdog5004> for the / ?
[10:00] <ajboorde> doesn't exist :/
[10:00] <moparisthebest> yes indygo
[10:00] <moparisthebest> ajboorde, did you open it in konqueror?
[10:00] <underdog5004> crimsun, ok, testing...
[10:00] <indygo> Ahh, Thank you so much everyone for all of your help!
[10:01] <ajboorde> yes
[10:01] <Lil_Eagle> Try this link for mounting ISO:  http://www.linuxhelp.net/linux_downloads/
[10:01] <moparisthebest> and you are using kubuntu ajboorde ?
[10:01] <ajboorde> yes
[10:01] <underdog5004> thanks so much, crimsun .
[10:01] <underdog5004> totally worked!
[10:02] <jarn> Are there drivers I can get that support hooking up my TI84 graphing calculator to Linux?
[10:02] <Lil_Eagle> indygo: depends on what you want to do.  5 GB is more than enough for Kubuntu
[10:02] <underdog5004> for the base system
[10:02] <crazy_penguin> good night to all!
[10:02] <Lil_Eagle> That's what I mean.
[10:02] <underdog5004> I like to make a 10Gb part for / , a 1Gb for swap, and the rest for my /home
[10:02] <Lil_Eagle> You can get by with 2.
[10:03] <Lil_Eagle> But if you want small, you might want to take a look at puppy linux or DSL...
[10:03] <indygo> Can I resize the linux partion later on if I need to?
[10:04] <Lil_Eagle> You can make it bigger easily enough....
[10:04] <Lil_Eagle> But it's best to plan ahead.
[10:05] <indygo> Well, I can't seem to resize my windows partition.  It's taking up 178 GB, but won't let me resize...
[10:05] <Lil_Eagle> wipe it clean!  You don't need windoze.
[10:06] <waylandbill> certainly not 178GB
[10:06] <indygo> I know, but my family says they need windows for Wow and neopets...
[10:06] <ajboorde> moparisthebest: when i insert the .iso cd I am getting: mount: block device /dev/hda is write-protected, mount: block device /dev/hda is write-protected, mounting read-only; mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda, missing codepage or other error. In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so
[10:06] <ajboorde> How do I do it now?
[10:07] <Lil_Eagle> mount -o loop -t iso9660 filename.iso /mnt/iso
[10:07] <moparisthebest> what are you entering into the command line ajboorde ?
[10:07] <ajboorde> I am not
[10:07] <Lil_Eagle> first sudo mkdir /mnt/iso
[10:07] <ajboorde> It is a .iso on a cd
[10:07] <Lil_Eagle> then copy it to HD,,,
[10:08] <waylandbill> like neopets needs windows.. :-
[10:08] <ajboorde> ill try again
[10:09] <Lil_Eagle> or perhaps (never tried this): mount -o loop -t iso9660 /media/cdrom/filename.iso /mnt/iso
[10:09] <indygo> Neopets says the toolbar only works with a microsoft OS.  I already checked it out...
[10:09] <Lil_Eagle> probably has spyware in it.
[10:10] <goodthing> !mountiso | ajboorde
[10:10] <ubotu> ajboorde: To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[10:11] <indygo> It does, right after install I got a spyware alert right after I installed.  I just blocked the spyware.  hey, I'll be back in a minute, gotta restart.
[10:11] <lupine_85> does anyone know where konqueror stores it's cookies?
[10:11] <mortici> wth
[10:12] <mortici> all the gtk apps are acting funky now :p
[10:12] <mortici> this sucks :(
[10:12] <jhutchins> mortici: What did you do?
[10:12] <ajboorde> !mountiso
[10:12] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[10:12] <ajboorde> !MD5
[10:12] <ubotu> To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[10:13] <mortici> jhutchins: i have no idea only thing i did was update beryl, now all fonts in gtk apps are like 9pt or lower, firefox the web pages have stupid tiny fonts :/
[10:13] <jhutchins> mortici: Oh, well, beryl.
[10:13] <mortici> the colors of the windows arent right you can see the difference in the intensity
[10:13] <Lil_Eagle> spyware:  check link:  http://toolbar.neopets.com/?tc=neostuff&sc9ejf2=55431
[10:13] <jhutchins> That's what you get with alpha software, especially when you update.
[10:14] <mortici> beryl has nothing to do with fonts in kde/gtk
[10:14] <zorglu_> !info gcc
[10:14] <ubotu> gcc: The GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.1-6ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 5 kB, installed size 64 kB
[10:14] <ajboorde> !burn
[10:14] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[10:15] <Lil_Eagle> beryl looks cool, but it is too unstable.
[10:15] <waylandbill> nice concept, but a ways to go
[10:16] <waylandbill> trying it makes you appreciate all that goes into a window manager. :-D
[10:16] <jhutchins> You know, we need to take the factoids from the bot and build a FAQ page so people can browse them without filling up the scrollbuffer with bot droppings.
[10:16] <Lil_Eagle> waylandbill: There are too many options in Beryl.  What I would like to see is for the Emereld Themes without the Beryl.
[10:18] <mortici> OMFG, kubuntu is retarded!!! i ran autoremove like it told me to, and it deleted stuffi used
[10:19] <underdog5004> mortici, to err is human, to really F*** things up you need a computer
[10:20] <mortici> :/
[10:20] <mortici> how could apt think i don't need those packages when i use them?
[10:21] <Lil_Eagle> don't use apt-get... use aptitude.  It's smarter.
[10:22] <waylandbill> we gotta form the 'use aptitude darn it' commitee
[10:22] <zorglu_> !info strigi
[10:22] <ubotu> Package strigi does not exist in any distro I know
[10:22] <zorglu_> !info strigi feisty
[10:22] <ubotu> Package strigi does not exist in feisty
[10:23] <zorglu_> hmm i dont get this one :)
[10:23] <mortici> whats the shell command to set konq as my default app?
[10:23] <mortici> errr browser
[10:24] <indygo> Hey, thanks again everyone who was able to help me out :)  I Got kubuntu installed, and I'm now downloading and installing 97 updates :D  Thanks a lot
[10:28] <Lil_Eagle> indygo: wtg!
[10:28] <mortici> www.google.com
[10:29] <Lil_Eagle> mortici: my homepage!
[10:30] <mortici> :)
[10:30] <mortici> testing something out
[10:30] <mortici> since firefox is being a lil homo, im gonna use konq as my default browser from now on :P
[10:31] <underdog5004> ok, I'm running rtorrent on my server, and when the u/l speed gets to about 55 Kb/s, everything slows down...should I open up another port? I've only got one open.
[10:31] <underdog5004> I should say, everything else on the network slows down...
[10:31] <zorglu_> underdog5004: what do you 'everything' ?
[10:31] <zorglu_> ah ok
[10:31] <underdog5004> I should say, everything else on the network slows down...
[10:32] <zorglu_> sthen put the limit upload limit to something lower
[10:32] <underdog5004> I did a speed test from another computer, and my d/l is like 100 Kb/s down and 20 Kb/s up
[10:32] <zorglu_> you are filling your uplink capacity
[10:32] <underdog5004> zorglu_, but I'm paying for 4.3 down and 500 up
[10:32] <zorglu_> irrelevant
[10:32] <underdog5004> I hate my ISP
[10:32] <indygo> anyone know of a good media player for kubuntu?
[10:33] <zorglu_> put the uplink limit to less
[10:33] <zorglu_> indygo: kaffeine is the standard one
[10:33] <underdog5004> zorglu_, when I did a speedtest w/o rtorrent running, It says my d/l is 5000Kb/s and u/l is 500 Kb/s
[10:33] <indygo> Are there any that can play windows media player palaylists?
[10:33] <goodthing> indygo: kmplayer is nice
[10:34] <indygo> I'll go look it up :) Thanks :)
[10:34] <underdog5004> indygo, or mplayer
[10:35] <underdog5004> that's for GNOME, though...
[10:35] <mortici> how do i disable konquerors default conquer your desktop page
[10:35] <indygo> will GNOME run on kubuntu?
[10:36] <animimotus> hi
[10:36] <soulrider> indygo: sure
[10:36] <la> hi
[10:36] <soulrider> kubuntu is just ubuntu with KDE instead of GNOME, or ubuntu is Kubuntu with GNOME instyead of KDE
[10:36] <soulrider> youc an install GNOME if you want
[10:36] <underdog5004> don't know why you'd want to...
[10:36] <la> so how is looking suse ?
[10:37] <zorglu_> bougth by microsoft :)
[10:37] <underdog5004> !kubuntu
[10:37] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[10:37] <underdog5004> kubuntu != SUSE
[10:37] <underdog5004> not even close
[10:37] <la> i'm just querry abt the difference
[10:37] <animimotus> what the paquet's name for smooth the fonts in GTK applications ?
[10:37] <underdog5004> different packages used, for instance (rpm vs. deb
[10:37] <underdog5004> )
[10:38] <la> aha
[10:38] <la> and...?
[10:38] <mortici> is konq that slow of a browser?
[10:39] <underdog5004> konq is faster than swiftfox
[10:39] <mortici> :/
[10:39] <la> it cant be slowler
[10:39] <mortici> i need serious konq help
[10:39] <karmikaze> heh
[10:40] <la> who has the fire ?
[10:40] <mortici> omg wth every web page i type it gets an error, i press enter again it loads it
[10:40] <mortici> :/
[10:41] <la> uhm
[10:42] <la> but in suse is also this kind of graphic like this screansaver is ?
[10:42] <LjL> mortici: http://www.konqueror.org/faq/#HowdoIsetmyhomepagethepageloadedonstartup
[10:42] <LjL> (for changing the home page)
[10:42] <la> i need some childish
[10:43] <la> chilly child chousen style
[10:44] <la> so where to find other channels for exemplar worldchat ?
[10:44] <la> this is boring room :>
[10:45] <jordo23> I run a 64 bit system with a chroot and Konqueror 32 running under that CHROOT. When I go to my home directory, my mounted drives (on my desktop) are not accessible in Konqueror as they have a lock over them. When selecting them, they say that the drive does not seem to exist anymore. How do you fix this?
[10:46] <blekos> hello, i have a question for a linux master(?) when i was booting with a splash screen & quite in kernel it took 2min & 10'' to load, when I removed this options it tooks 15secs to load y?
[10:47] <indygo> I downloaded the kmplayer .tar.bz2 file, then I decompressed it.  How do I run it though?
[10:48] <the_hammer> unzipped it?
[10:48] <the_hammer> indy?
[10:48] <indygo> Well, I used Ark for it
[10:48] <indygo> Is that decompressing or something else?
[10:49] <the_hammer> open a term and this should work for ya sudo su then do ./configure then make and then make install
[10:49] <tbtk> It's usually referred to as 'unzipping' but I guess it's really the same thing.
[10:49] <indygo> ahh, I see
[10:50] <the_hammer> whoops open term do the sudo su thing then cd to the directory where the file is
[10:50] <blekos> hello, i have a question  when i was booting with a splash screen & quite in kernel it took 2min & 10'' to load, when I removed this options it tooks 15secs to load y?
[10:50] <the_hammer> then the commands ./configure and so on
[10:50] <dddude55> grr i ran the expert install this time and it still didnt see my wireless card...
[10:51] <the_hammer> so ya would cd Desktop/kmplayer then ./configure then make make install (just an example)
[10:51] <the_hammer> dude what card u have?
[10:51] <the_hammer> im willing to bet same as me
[10:51] <dima2001> (you will need kde development libraries)
[10:51] <dddude55> dwl-650
[10:51] <dddude55> says its automatically detected with dapper
[10:52] <the_hammer> have ya tried ndiswrapper?
[10:52] <dddude55> nope, i dont have the windows drivers anymore lol
[10:53] <prak> does anyone know how to unlock the database for the adept manager?
[10:53] <the_hammer> shoot not sure how i can help ya
[10:53] <dddude55> use sudo?
[10:53] <la> i dont like linux
[10:53] <the_hammer> if ya can get access to a windows pc download install windows drivers then goto the program files and copy to a floppy the inf files and also the sys files
[10:54] <the_hammer> i get same thing it detects but likely not the correct drivers
[10:54] <the_hammer> i have a NetGear WG511 ver 1
[10:54] <dddude55> hmm
[10:54] <la> here someone controle my computer like everywhere else, in windows they dosnt showing me this
[10:55] <dddude55> ill install it on this comp next to me and through the drivers in a sahred folder
[10:55] <dddude55> copy it that way
[10:55] <dddude55> not sure whqat you are trying to say la
[10:55] <the_hammer> should be ok then
[10:55] <the_hammer> then do ndiswrapper
[10:56] <the_hammer> ndiswrapper -1 filename.inf
[10:56] <dddude55> ok ill have to look up how to do ndiswrapper again lol
[10:56] <dddude55> its been a while since i used linux
[10:56] <the_hammer> im redoing my lappy soon haha i gotta do ndiswrapper stuff to
[10:56] <cpk1> if dapper was able to detect your wireless card i dont see why edgy cant use it
[10:56] <the_hammer> dont know all the commands but i know somne
[10:57] <the_hammer> cpk1 mine gets detected also but they are not the correct drivers (my case anyways)
[10:57] <dddude55> oh im in dapper
[10:57] <the_hammer> edgy here
[10:57] <dddude55> it didnt detect it but all reports say my card should have been
[10:58] <the_hammer> do this dude
[10:58] <the_hammer> iwconfig
[10:58] <the_hammer> should tell u something
[10:58] <dddude55> ya it tells me i have 3 non wireless cards lol
[10:58] <cpk1> it should also show up in lspci
[10:58] <the_hammer> im willing to bet ya get NOT READY error
[10:59] <dddude55> dddude55@dddude55-laptop:~$ iwconfig
[10:59] <dddude55> lo        no wireless extensions.
[10:59] <dddude55> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[10:59] <dddude55> sit0      no wireless extensions.
[10:59] <the_hammer> yup just as i suspected
[10:59] <dddude55> ive tried using both pcbus slots, neither wants to work lol
[10:59] <dddude55> the led's light up.. but it says its not there
[10:59] <cpk1> whats sit0?
[10:59] <dddude55> no idea
[10:59] <LjL> cpk1: IPv6 tunneling interface
[11:00] <dddude55> im on eth0 right now
[11:00] <LjL> can be disabled
[11:00] <LjL> !ipv6
[11:00] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[11:00] <the_hammer> sometimes your wireless will be dected as eth1
[11:00] <the_hammer> mine is
[11:01] <dddude55> hmm only eth i have is the actual ethernet
[11:01] <dddude55> ok do i need to run the setup .exe that dlink gave me...
[11:01] <the_hammer> ok ya know the control center
[11:01] <dddude55> i downloaded the driver and it gave me an .exe
[11:01] <the_hammer> open that and goto net work
[11:01] <the_hammer> just for the fuin of it
[11:01] <mortici> it takes a while for apples quicktime page to load in konq  :/
[11:01] <the_hammer> fun*
[11:02] <prak> does anyone know how to unlock the database for the adept manager?
[11:02] <the_hammer> try eth1 and go through all and see if anything in there for your wireless
[11:02] <dddude55> under network settings it only shows eth0
[11:02] <the_hammer> ok
[11:02] <the_hammer> i forget where it is that lists off the hard ware
[11:02] <the_hammer> let me fiddel ehre
[11:03] <dddude55> if i goto kinfo cneter under system in the menu
[11:03] <the_hammer> k menu then system then system info
[11:03] <cpk1> lspci should show your wireless device
[11:03] <cpk1> lshw lists hardware
[11:03] <dddude55> it doesnt have any pcmia devices
[11:03] <la> how to change a channel ?
[11:03] <dddude55> 0000:02:01.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1420
[11:03] <dddude55> 0000:02:01.1 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1420
[11:03] <dddude55> thats where my card should be...
[11:03] <KennethP> When I access CLI via CTRL+ALT+F1 I can see I've got mail. How do I read this? (I can see that mail is no longer present)
[11:04] <paul__> Hello again
[11:04] <paul__> !beryl
[11:04] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[11:04] <the_hammer> ok ya then ya ndiswrapper should fix u
[11:04] <la> please
[11:04] <dddude55> lol ok ill see what i can do with that
[11:04] <paul__> My repository file somehow has been deleted
[11:04] <the_hammer> for me mine shows my card but i got a prism driver
[11:04] <paul__> Can I get a new one?
[11:04] <the_hammer> when i do lspci
[11:05] <dddude55> my old usb wireless card uses prism also
[11:05] <the_hammer> i later found out the windows driver has prisim mentioned wich was weird or i thought anyway i opened up my win driver with a txt editor just to look
[11:06] <dddude55> i forget where to go look for this driver i just installed on the windows comp
[11:06] <la> i dont want to be only one in the chatroom
[11:06] <cpk1> !easysource | paul__
[11:06] <ubotu> paul__: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:06] <la> should i change a server ?
[11:06] <indygo> Well, I did ./configure, then when I tried make, the console reported that the make command was not found
[11:06] <the_hammer> should be in my computer c local disk program files
[11:06] <indygo> Is there something I forgot?
[11:07] <the_hammer> that should of worked
[11:07] <the_hammer> might be a bad d/l
[11:07] <underdog5004> sudo apt-get install make
[11:07] <paul__> Thanks cpk1
[11:07] <cpk1> !build | indygo
[11:07] <ubotu> indygo: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:08] <the_hammer> any luck dude?
[11:08] <cpk1> KennethP: try /var/mail
[11:08] <the_hammer> my computer C: local disk program files then drivers folder name?
[11:08] <dddude55> nope cant find em lol
[11:08] <indygo> yup, sudo apt-get install make did the trick :)
[11:09] <the_hammer> ahh permissions prob
[11:09] <dddude55> i have a dlink air folder now lol
[11:09] <the_hammer> ya forgot sudo su?
[11:09] <cpk1> indygo: did you install build-essentials?
[11:09] <paul__> !source
[11:09] <ubotu> You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[11:10] <LjL> or "sudo -i" even
[11:10] <the_hammer> and that to ya would need what cpk1 said to ya
[11:10] <KennethP> cpk1: tnx. I can see the mail there, but isn't there a cli mail client?
[11:10] <indygo> what are build-essentials?
[11:10] <the_hammer> indy sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[11:10] <cpk1> its actually build-essential i typoed it
[11:10] <the_hammer> oops
[11:11] <paul__> Where is the repository file kept?
[11:11] <the_hammer> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:11] <cpk1> KennethP: dunno normally you just get system messages in there so I have never bothered
[11:11] <KennethP> cpk1: ok, tnx!
[11:11] <cpk1> paul__: /etc/apt/sources.list is the file
 do ya mean sources.list ?
[11:12] <the_hammer> lol cp u fast lol
[11:12] <KennethP> the_hammer: No, just trying to find a CLI mail-client... to read the system mails...
[11:13] <the_hammer> im loving this kubuntu 610 so much im gonna be installing it on my amd 64 here also soon as its done d/ling
[11:13] <wirelexh> hola
[11:13] <the_hammer> ya might wanna try thunderbird mail i use that its pretty decent
[11:14] <KennethP> the_hammer: To access system mail internally???
[11:14] <the_hammer> ohhh sshoot sorry lol
[11:14] <KennethP> lol
[11:14] <the_hammer> no that wouldnt help
[11:14] <the_hammer> lol
[11:14] <wirelexh> hola terox
[11:17] <paul__> Thanks again cpk1 that easy sources site worked liek a charm
[11:17] <dddude55> baahahahaha
[11:17] <paul__> like*
[11:17] <BluesKaj> cli mail client ?
[11:17] <dddude55> i found an win98 driver file and the drivers are in a folder
[11:17] <dddude55> so i now have them without running the .exe
[11:17] <dddude55> i need .inf and .sys for ndiswrapper right?
[11:18] <wirelexh> adios
[11:18] <BluesKaj> err, this is linux if ya wanna run exe files you'll need wine , or better yet use windows :)
[11:18] <dddude55> ausatluego
[11:18] <dddude55> umm
[11:18] <dddude55> i dont want to run it
[11:18] <dddude55> that was the whole point of my rave lol
[11:18] <prak> does anyone know how to solve the issue with the database for adept being locked when i'm not using any other apt-get?
[11:18] <the_hammer> yes dude
[11:18] <the_hammer> both inf files and the .sys
[11:19] <the_hammer> sorry was afk a sec
[11:19] <BluesKaj> prak, sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:19] <dddude55> ok now i need to install ndiswrapper
[11:19] <the_hammer> yup
[11:19] <dddude55> is it under adept or just synaptics
[11:19] <prak> adept
[11:19] <prak> well
[11:19] <the_hammer> actually in a term
[11:19] <prak> i'm having problems with using apt-get in konsole too
[11:20] <the_hammer> dude pop a term and go sudo su
[11:20] <the_hammer> so your root
[11:20] <the_hammer> ndiswrapper filename.inf
[11:20] <the_hammer> oops
[11:20] <the_hammer> correction
[11:20] <dddude55> lol its asking me to insert the cd
[11:20] <the_hammer> ndiswrapper -i ename.inf
[11:21] <the_hammer> linux is?
[11:21] <the_hammer> ir windows?
[11:21] <the_hammer> or*
[11:21] <dddude55> ndiswrapper command not found
[11:21] <BluesKaj> prak, did you try ' sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a ' in the terminal ?
[11:21] <cpk1> KennethP: well aptitude search mail comes up with some promising results but you would have to check  them out for yourself
[11:21] <dddude55> lemme instasll synaptics
[11:22] <the_hammer> ok
[11:22] <prak> yes
[11:22] <jarn> Is there a way to see the size of a folder, including its contents? ls -s only shows the size of the folder (4).
[11:22] <the_hammer> yeah i like that better then the reg one that comes with kubuntu to
[11:22] <prak> BluesKaj
[11:22] <prak> i've tried it
[11:23] <cpk1> KennethP: but like i said most of it is probably going to be stuff like "user KennethP tried to use sudo at such and such date and time and he doesnt have permission to sudo" or other similiar boring stuff that probably wont mean anything to you
[11:23] <KennethP> cpk1: I'll look into that. tnx
[11:23] <BluesKaj> prak, then you prolly have a broken pkg with hanging dependencies
[11:24] <prak> ok
[11:24] <prak> thanks, BluesKaj
[11:24] <waylandbill> jarn: du
[11:24] <jarn> waylandbill: Thanks!
[11:25] <jordo23> Is there any technical difference with installing Kubuntu versus Ubuntu with Kde installed....
[11:25] <dddude55> no
[11:25] <dddude55> ubuntu generally starts out with gnome
[11:25] <cpk1> well in the second scenario you would have both gnome and kde installed
[11:25] <dddude55> kubuntu generally starts with kde
[11:25] <dddude55> both can be switched to the other either way
[11:25] <jarn> waylandbill: Is there a way to make it NOT recursive?
[11:25] <kkathman> technically yes, if you install ubuntu, then install kde you have both
[11:25] <jordo23> jordo23: I thought there was some semantic with kde-desktop metapackage or omething..
[11:25] <BluesKaj> kubuntu is the kde default desktop ,...note the K  :)
[11:26] <kkathman> if you just install kubuntu you dont get the gnome desktop components
[11:26] <jordo23> Dude....I get that.....that's why i said TECHNICALLy
[11:26] <the_hammer> lol i tried just for the hell of it to install kde into ubuntu and it almost worked then ran into a ton of depencies problems and i borked my ubuntu lol
[11:26] <BluesKaj> err kde is the the default kubuntu desktop
[11:26] <dddude55> but you can get them later so, either one works lol
[11:26] <kkathman> but you could add them later
[11:26] <jarn> waylandbill: I'm not seeing an option for that in the man page, but I would have to imagine I'm not the only one who would want to do that.
[11:26] <jordo23> Ok.....thanks....
[11:26] <kkathman> well TECHNICALLY yes there is lots of differences :)
[11:26] <BluesKaj> whynot just install kubuntu ?
[11:26] <kkathman> functionally no
[11:27] <dddude55> lol i forgot to reinstall my mp3 stuff
[11:27] <dddude55> !mp3
[11:27] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:27] <cpk1> if you have limited hard drive space then you might notice a difference =P
[11:27] <kkathman> yep
[11:27] <the_hammer> oh boy back to having some probs again lol
[11:28] <kenny>  irc://irc.freenode.net/#kubuntu
[11:28] <kenny> -.-
[11:28] <the_hammer> uh huh yup thats where ya kenny lol
[11:28] <jordo23> lol
[11:28] <kenny> my failure ........... first time in konversation ^^
[11:28] <the_hammer> no worries bro
[11:29] <the_hammer> me to im still working on my lappy beside me
[11:29] <dddude55> im working on my laptop... from my laptop
[11:29] <the_hammer> got a ton of key probs again missing keys bla bla bla
[11:29] <dddude55> have my windows comp from upstairs in this room too though lol
[11:30] <the_hammer> not as bad now as i did earlyer i had 39 said heck with it format and re-install lol quicker fix then to sit and sort through keys heh
[11:30] <litb> kenny: hi
[11:30] <kenny> tach
[11:30] <dddude55> wtf
[11:30] <kenny> so go in deutschen chan
[11:30] <indygo> What does it mean when make returns "No targets specified and no makefile found."?
[11:30] <dddude55> i added the uni/multiverse packs and it wont let me get gstreamer
[11:30] <cpk1> try make install
[11:30] <kenny> #ubuntu.de
[11:31] <jordo23> Are there any real problems with installing a i386 edition of Kubuntu on an AMD 64 platform? Or will it run normally...
[11:32] <cpk1> indygo: actually my bad did you do ./configure already?
[11:32] <the_hammer> it be ok jordo
[11:32] <jordo23> the_hammer: I am sick of dealing with 64 bit flash problems!!! :)
[11:32] <indygo> yep
[11:32] <cpk1> indygo: and no errors returned?
[11:32] <the_hammer> 32bit will actually run a bit faster for ya to
[11:32] <indygo> no errors from ./make
[11:32] <the_hammer> ive found anyway
[11:32] <indygo> *./configure
[11:33] <jordo23> If I run a dual boot system, I don't have to reinstall Windows right...as long as I don't touch that partition....right?
[11:34] <the_hammer> i crashed trying to dual boot and gave up after 3 tries so i cant help ya
[11:34] <dddude55> jordo: ruight
[11:34] <jordo23> Thanks people...
[11:34] <cpk1> indygo: what are you building?
[11:34] <indygo> kmplayer
[11:34] <cpk1> indygo: why?
[11:34] <the_hammer> this is kinda cool getting help and giving help
[11:35] <the_hammer> lol
[11:35] <cpk1> !kmplayer
[11:35] <ubotu> kmplayer: media player for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.3-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 187 kB, installed size 620 kB
[11:35] <indygo> I wanted a different media player.  kaffeine doesn't have the feature I need.
[11:35] <cpk1> you dont need to build kmplayer
[11:35] <indygo> really?
[11:36] <cpk1> yes really. its in universe
[11:36] <the_hammer> cp that might depend tho
[11:36] <indygo> ??  I'm kinda new to linux, what universe?
[11:36] <cpk1> !repos | indygo
[11:36] <ubotu> indygo: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:36] <the_hammer> example i installed amsn and when it was installed and i went to run it...it said to update it and took me to the site for the update
[11:37] <cpk1> !kmplayer dapper
[11:37] <ubotu> kmplayer: media player for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.1.99+0.9.2-rc1-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 161 kB, installed size 524 kB
[11:37] <cpk1> its in both dapper in edgy so he can get it for sure
[11:38] <the_hammer> hey cp those things ya add onto sources list for the kde update is there a key for the,m someplace?
[11:39] <cpk1> the gpg key?
[11:39] <the_hammer> i think
[11:39] <the_hammer> keeps erroring out missing key or something in the term
[11:39] <cpk1> if you are updating kde then the howto from kubuntu.org probably has it
[11:40] <the_hammer> ok brb just gonna load lappy up
[11:40] <glundberg> anyone else have a problem with the start up time of gtk apps in kubuntu??
[11:40] <glundberg> specifically gkrellm and anjuta
[11:40] <cpk1> if you got your list from sourceomatic then it probably says in your sources.list
[11:40] <dddude55> !seara
[11:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seara - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:40] <dddude55> !find sear
[11:40] <ubotu> Found: hp-search-mac, libbsearch-ruby, libbsearch-ruby1.8, libclass-dbi-abstractsearch-perl, libdbix-fulltextsearch-perl (and 18 others)
[11:40] <dddude55> !find sare
[11:40] <ubotu> Found: gnupg
[11:41] <dddude55> whats the repository thaqt has the dvd thing
[11:41] <dddude55>  libdvdcss2
[11:41] <yuriy> !dvd
[11:41] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:41] <dddude55> ty lol
[11:42] <indygo> brb, gonna restart, computers buggy
[11:43] <dddude55> well i got my mp3s working again lol
[11:43] <glundberg> anyone else have a problem with the start up time of gtk apps in kubuntu??
[11:43] <cpk1> glundberg: the reason why most of the qt apps are loading fast than gtk ones is because the qt libraries for the qt apps are probably already loaded
[11:44] <cpk1> faster*
[11:44] <hatta> man wtf
[11:44] <glundberg> cpk1:  i'm talking about a matter of minutes, though.  I've been using kde for a long time (slackware) and i've never had this problem
[11:44] <hatta> samba was working perfectly now all of a sudden input output errors
[11:44] <hatta> didn't change anything
[11:45] <dddude55> im having issues with ndiswrapper >.<
[11:45] <dddude55> what is the line i need to type
[11:45] <cpk1> oh, minutes is excessive =P
[11:45] <dddude55> im doing sudo ndiswrapper filename.inf
[11:45] <glundberg> it shouldnt take 6 minutes for gkrellm to launch...
[11:46] <cpk1> theres more to it than that dddude55 you gotta depmod and stuff, there is an ndiswrapper page on the wiki...
[11:47] <cpk1> dddude55: did you say you had a dwl 122?
[11:47] <dddude55> dwl-650
[11:47] <the_hammer> ndiswrapper -i yourdriver.inf
[11:47] <dddude55> i did that and it says already installed
[11:47] <the_hammer> ok
[11:47] <dddude55> the message before that was
[11:48] <dddude55> couldn't copy AIRPLUS.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 135.
[11:48] <cpk1> dddude55: the wiki says the dwl 650 works perfectly fine
[11:48] <the_hammer> depmod -a
[11:48] <dddude55> says it does, but mine doesnt
[11:48] <dddude55> i did live cd and expert install, neither one works
[11:48] <dddude55> im using the eth0 right now
[11:48] <the_hammer> strage
[11:49] <the_hammer> ok try another 1
[11:49] <the_hammer> how many inf files ya have?
[11:49] <dddude55> i really need to get the wireless working so i can get out of this chair
[11:49] <the_hammer> if 1 fails other should go
[11:49] <dddude55> i have 1 inf and 1 sys
[11:49] <djwilcox> wireless grief here as well
[11:49] <dddude55> !ndiswrapper
[11:49] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:49] <cpk1> dddude55: does it show up in lshw? is this a pci or pcmcia card?
[11:49] <the_hammer> strange there should of been 2
[11:49] <dddude55> lemme check on thie windows comp
[11:50] <djwilcox> ive got a powerpc dont think i can use nsiswrapper
[11:50] <djwilcox> my network shows up but i cant get an ip with dhcp
[11:50] <devin_> need some help with dapper-edgy upgrade. when i got finished upgrading it rebooted, but am unable to load kdm, heres what my system log says http://pastebin.com/873142
[11:51] <dddude55> nope only 1 .inf
[11:51] <cpk1> dddude55: is this a pcmcia or pci card?
[11:51] <the_hammer> ok well im not sure what to do now
[11:51] <the_hammer> i have 2 inf files 1 dont work but other does
[11:52] <dddude55> i might have wrong file
[11:52] <dddude55> its all in .exe from dlink >.<
[11:52] <the_hammer> is there any folders with in the folder your driver is in?
[11:52] <the_hammer> well ya that could be the problem to wrong files lol
[11:52] <cpk1> dddude55: ok how about this since you are fixated on using ndiswrapper what does ndiswrapper -l tell you?
[11:53] <dddude55> comes up with options
[11:53] <dddude55> i
[11:53] <dddude55> l
[11:53] <dddude55> wait
[11:53] <cpk1> lowercase L
[11:53] <dddude55> Installed ndis drivers:
[11:53] <dddude55> airplus invalid driver!
[11:54] <dddude55> ---^
[11:54] <the_hammer> ok try liosting drivers installed there
[11:54] <hatta> so I can't mount samba shares in kubuntu
[11:54] <the_hammer> listing*
[11:54] <hatta> it was working the other day
[11:54] <cpk1> dddude55: also it doesnt look like ndiswrapper supports dwl 650
[11:54] <hatta> it still works if I try to mount the shares on the same machine that hosts them
[11:54] <dddude55> samba shares dont need mounted
[11:54] <dddude55> i can see them without mounting
[11:54] <hatta> but on my kubuntu box, the same command pretends to mount it, then gives me an Input/output error
[11:55] <cpk1> dddude55: wait nevermind maybe it does
[11:55] <hatta> I can see the shares from kubuntu in smbtree
[11:55] <dddude55> i cant find the driver
[11:55] <hatta> the shares are there, they're mountable, but kubuntu just refuses to read from them
[11:55] <dddude55> dlink uses an .exe and i dont know where they install it too...
[11:55] <cpk1> dddude55: what does lspci tell you about the card?
[11:55] <dddude55> nothing
[11:55] <hatta> how do i continue troubleshooting?
[11:55] <cpk1> dddude55: how about lshw?
[11:56] <dddude55> 0000:02:01.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1420
[11:56] <dddude55> 0000:02:01.1 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1420
[11:56] <cpk1> thats not the card
[11:56] <dddude55> those are the slots they are supposed to be in though lol
[11:56] <cpk1> if its a pcmcia card try lspcmcia
[11:57] <dddude55> dont see it under lshw
[11:57] <nats> hi
[11:57] <cpk1> is it a pcmcia card?
[11:58] <dddude55> yes
[11:58] <dddude55> im on a laptop
[11:58] <cpk1> so does it show up when you do lspcmcia?
[11:59] <dddude55> bash: lspcmcia: command not found
[11:59] <cpk1> is this on edgy?
[11:59] <dddude55> dapper
[11:59] <vcef> hi
[11:59] <dddude55> and nothing under lsmod either
[12:00] <vcef> is there a kernel boot parameter which will result in booting into another runlevel?
[12:00] <mervteck> hey guys
[12:00] <cpk1> dddude55: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/acx100?highlight=%28WifiDocs%29%7C%28ManufacturerModel%29%7C%28AND%29
[12:00] <cpk1> looks like dapper has broken support for it is why
[12:01] <cpk1> that is a dwl 650+ though so i am hoping thats for your card
[12:02] <nats> plz i need an a channel to improve my english languge
[12:02] <nats> any idea?
[12:02] <dddude55> so confusinf -_-
[12:02] <dddude55> i dont know which to d/l from the acx website
[12:03] <codyt> A channel to learn english?
[12:03] <nats> yes
[12:03] <codyt> I've never noticed a channel like that.
[12:03] <nats> ok thx
[12:04] <codyt> how much do you know?
[12:04] <dddude55> adept wont open T_T
[12:05] <nats> euh how can i mesure my knowledge?
[12:05] <nats> lol
[12:05] <indygo> After I install from the adept package manager, how do I run a program?
[12:06] <cpk1> dddude55: acx100 i believe
[12:06] <mervteck> hey guys hwo mutch ram does kubuntu use up by default
[12:06] <vcef> what is default ubuntu runlevel anyway?
[12:06] <cpk1> you need at least 192 mB of ram
[12:06] <dddude55> yes but on their d/l page theres like 100 files...
[12:07] <mervteck> ok no wonder my 256 is almost eaten up XD
[12:07] <mervteck> how mutch does it use in command line?
[12:07] <codyt> you know enough for basic conversation?
[12:07] <nats> yes
[12:07] <nats> i wanna just talk
[12:07] <codyt> sure.
[12:07] <nats> :)
[12:07] <codyt> where are you from?
[12:08] <cpk1> dddude55: http://lisas.de/~andi/acx100/
[12:08] <nats> North Africa
[12:08] <codyt> I'm from Oklahoma.
[12:09] <dddude55> ark sucks
[12:09] <dddude55> always tells me extraction failed
[12:09] <nats> in wich continent?
[12:09] <dddude55> but all the files are extractred...
[12:09] <codyt> US.
[12:09] <nats> ok
[12:09] <nats> nice to meet you
[12:09] <codyt> you too
[12:09] <nats> we can talk in private?
[12:10] <codyt> sure.
[12:10] <BluesKaj> US isn't a continent :)
[12:10] <BluesKaj> it's a country
[12:10] <codyt> I know.l
[12:10] <nats> yeah i know
[12:10] <BluesKaj> :)
[12:10] <nats> lol
[12:10] <dddude55> well im installing crap through term, afk
[12:10] <cpk1> US is NOT a continent but north america is
[12:11] <cpk1> BluesKaj: beat me =)
[12:11] <BluesKaj> yup, and that incudes we canaucks and the mexicans
[12:11] <codyt> I was waiting for someone to pipe in.
[12:11] <BluesKaj> canucks ...geezus
[12:11] <cpk1> canaucks? i always say canucks... hmm
[12:11] <cpk1> ah alright
[12:12] <BluesKaj> cpk1, my KB skills suck
[12:12] <codyt> canucks?
[12:12] <cpk1> i dont have much ammo for canadians other than canuck, eh and aboot
[12:12] <codyt> oh
[12:12] <codyt> figured.
[12:13] <BluesKaj> wtf is aboot ?
[12:13] <cpk1> about
[12:13] <BluesKaj> yeah , y'all y'all :)
[12:14] <cpk1> haha no one says y'all in california =)