[12:16] Jucato: ready to introduce yourself? [12:16] yep. My wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Jucato [12:16] manchicken: cool - interested in speccing them out at all? === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [12:16] Hobbsee: So the answer to your question is I like working with others' ideas and I'm okay coming up with my own as well. [12:17] ie, would you be a candidate for coming to UDS [12:17] Hi! I'm Juan Carlos Torres from the Philippines. I've been using Linux and Kubuntu for a year now. My main contributions to the Kubuntu community so far has been user support in the forums and in IRC, some bug filing and triaging, and a few guides. I've also been involved with upstream KDE in the same areas (support, bug triaging, documentation). I'm currently self-studying programming (C++) and I'm interested in getting involved in the more [12:17] "technical" aspects of Kubuntu development. [12:17] I finally get jucato's name! [12:17] lol :) [12:17] Very clever. [12:17] haha [12:18] hehe [12:18] can't take credit for that name though. some crazy guys from college coined it. and it kinda stuck === Hobbsee only figured that out when she first looked at the wiki page === Hobbsee thought jucato was a proper name, before that... [12:18] heh :) [12:18] Jucato: You should take credit also for keeping #kubuntu in line. Without you that channel would be nothing but flames. === yuriy figured it out last night... or was practically explained it [12:19] yuriy: lol :) [12:19] Jucato: which do you think is more active for kubuntu users, ubuntuforums or kubuntuforums? [12:19] I think Kubuntu forums [12:20] I have feeds in akregator for both forums and monitor the amount of Kubuntu/KDE questions that come in and get answered [12:20] That's a great idea, never thought of that. [12:20] Jucato: are there enough people answering kubuntu questions in the forums? === claydoh runs to add feeds.... [12:21] Riddell: I have to agree, Kubuntuforums.net is the winner! [12:21] can someone ping me when we get to the patches from opensuse topic? [12:21] that's one part of the problem, imho KFN lacks in the number of knowledgeable users in some areas like hardware [12:21] gnomefreak: sure [12:21] ty [12:22] I mean, ubuntuforums enjoys the numbers and the bulk of the Ubuntu community [12:22] Jucato: would you be interested in gettign the kubuntu forums made official, and how would you go about doing that? [12:22] or is it better, in your opinion, to shove it all in ubuntuforums? [12:22] Yes, very much interested. But based on past events, there seemed to be some issues regarding that, coming from ubuntuforums [12:23] who's the admin of kubuntu forums? [12:23] I'd probably approach the Forum Council after I have talked with the KFN owner (Open Source) [12:23] doing that might get a bit political :) [12:23] Hobbsee: personally I would seperate for 1 reason, Kubuntu forums seems to take what they have and push it to the wiki, where as Ubuntu forums take it to 3 party documentation repos [12:23] yeah, that's what I'm afraid of... [12:23] Riddell: true, possibly. [12:23] claydoh will be there to help though :D [12:23] nixternal: neat :) [12:23] :D [12:23] Jucato: does kubuntu-ph do anything, or is it just a launchpad team? [12:23] Riddell: now if it was marketed as kubuntu-centric forums.... === Hobbsee continues to contemplate evilly.... [12:24] Riddell: just a launchpad team. currently there's no reason to separate yet from ubuntu-ph [12:24] no practical reason, that is [12:24] no matter what you all think of Jucato :) He is a damn good assett I must say. He tends to help out everywhere he can fit in and has even offered to learn some DocBook/XML which I need major help with [12:24] heh :) [12:25] And he's always there to help me google when I'm banging my head against a wall. heh [12:25] hehe [12:25] Two googles are better than one. [12:25] I agree as well [12:25] Jucato: what sort of admin do you do in #kubuntu? [12:25] he actually watches it and responds, i suspect :P [12:26] Riddell: I'm just a new op, so not that much. just making reminders when people get offtopic or unruly [12:26] made a few kicks/bans, but I unban after 24 hours [12:26] heh [12:26] most of the time, though, I do support in #kubuntu (even when I should be studying...) [12:26] Jucato: you're following #ubuntu-ops, and the meeting yesterday presumably? [12:27] Jucato is a pretty good traffic cop in #kubuntu [12:27] Hobbsee: yep :) [12:27] Yeah, he shuts me down quite frequently ;) [12:27] lol [12:27] manchicken: get a weapon like a Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and you'll be fine :P [12:27] manchicken: hey I'm pretty lenient with you... I let you speak your mind. but keep an eye on you... :P [12:27] Well, what I like is that he actually explains WHY things are a problem. [12:27] -1 for me that's better for your studies ^^ [12:27] heh Tonio_ I'm just self-studying [12:27] Jucato gets+2 from me ;) [12:28] I never would have though of the reasons why he said it is important to stay on topic. === n8k99_ inches slowly away from the stick [12:28] Jucato: seriously, +1 for great support, wich is very important for the distro === Hobbsee prods n8k99_ a few times with it [12:28] definetly a +1 from me [12:28] Jucato is +1 from me for doing much needed user support [12:28] yeah +1. No doubt! [12:28] welcome to membership, Jucato! [12:28] It's important to have an op that'll explain why too much normal offtopic conversation may be disruptive. [12:28] thanks :) [12:28] + [12:28] welcome aboard Jucato :) [12:29] congrats Jucato [12:29] yay!! :) [12:29] Yay! [12:29] Congrats Jucato!!!!!!!!!!! [12:29] congrats Jucato!! [12:29] w00t@jucato [12:29] manchicken: indeed. the op stuff is being redone, anyway. and somehow i'm getting the most votes to being on the council, so far. scary. [12:29] thanks!!! :) [12:29] any other memberships? === Hobbsee doesnt know how that's happening [12:29] congrats Jucato and manchicken [12:29] congrats Jucato!!! [12:29] Hobbsee: I still haven't added my vote there :P [12:29] congrats Jucato [12:29] Riddell: can i have admin access to the kubuntu-devel ML, btw. [12:30] it's a pain when my mail gets moderated. [12:30] and you're not around === ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:Ubugtu] : Current meeting: Kubuntu | Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 01 Feb 21:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 05 Feb 20:00 UTC: Mozilla Team | 07 Feb 12:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 08 Feb 16:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 13 Feb 16:00 UTC: Forum Council [12:30] also to kubuntu-members LP team, to decline some people who obviously arent interested still [12:30] Hobbsee: yes, although I don't know if you really want it, let's talk after [12:31] Lure: your item [12:31] Riddell: okay. [12:31] Riddell: I though Tonio_ is first === Hobbsee already moderates 1 ML. [12:31] oh yes, it's Tonio_ [12:31] yes, I'd like to rediscuss media patches inclusion for several reasons : [12:31] it's Tonio_, but it's me who wrote it on the agenda :P [12:31] - They create lots of issues [12:32] - they differ a lot from the standard kde, which makes it hard for users to get support on the web [12:32] these are the media:/ to /media ones, presumably? [12:32] Hobbsee: yes === Hawkwind [n=SoS@ulteo/community-leader/Hawkwind] has left #Ubuntu-Meeting ["It's] [12:32] the point is that they create lots of problems, see bugs 70217, 78811, 61946, 82094, 70796 [12:32] Malone bug 70217 in kdebase "KubuntuKDEMedia changes: wrong desktop icons of removable devices plugged before login" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70217 [12:32] Malone bug 78811 in kdebase "CAN'T UMOUNT REMOVABLE MEDIA (dup-of: 70217)" [Undecided,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78811 [12:32] Malone bug 70217 in kdebase "KubuntuKDEMedia changes: wrong desktop icons of removable devices plugged before login" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70217 [12:32] Malone bug 61946 in kdebase "[Edgy Data Loss] umount progress dialog missing" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61946 [12:32] Malone bug 82094 in kubuntu-meta "USB safe unmount from desktop data corruption (dup-of: 61946)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82094 [12:32] Malone bug 61946 in kdebase "[Edgy Data Loss] umount progress dialog missing" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61946 [12:32] Malone bug 70796 in kdebase "KDE storage media applet not showing unmounted removable mediums" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70796 [12:32] sorry for this :) [12:33] isn't "umount progress dialog missing" a problem in upstream KDE too? [12:33] i didnt think the edgy data loss was due to that [12:33] also, even if that's not reported on launchpad, we get crappy icon names on the desktop [12:33] Riddell: yeah it is, but they all mount their removable media as sync [12:33] Riddell: oups true, you're right on that point [12:33] yuriy: should be able to give us more bugs on it, most likely [12:33] Tonio_: not all of these are media patches issues [12:34] Tonio_: umount is problem in kde > 3.5.2 [12:34] in the list of problems, tou also have issues using qtparted for example, since you cannot graphically unmount the disk to format it [12:34] which disk? [12:34] Lure: how to unmount a usb key on kubuntu ? no way [12:34] Riddell: a usb key for example [12:35] right click -> "Safely Remove" ? [12:35] the right-click/unmount media option misses, which is a pure pain in some cases [12:35] hmm? Tonio_ got all the ones i've seen. Bug 32159 has the problems that come up without the patches (but that's pre-dapper, maybe things have improved upstream?) [12:35] Tonio_: Safely remove [12:35] Malone bug 32159 in kdebase "system:// protocol" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/32159 [12:35] Tonio_: what's your advise: media needs some work, or, getter get rid of it? media:/ had also lots of issues [12:35] Riddell: remove removes the media, doesn't unmount === LobsterWing [n=LobsterW@c-69-251-30-224.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Konversation] [12:35] Riddell: the difference is that the media doesn't appear in qtparted for example === Lure thinks media patches are better than default media:/ [12:36] allee: yeah I know, media:/ issues with gtk apps [12:36] Tonio_: and KDE apps as well :( [12:36] allee: +1 [12:36] allee: not that much really, it is just a matter of patching a desktop file most of the time [12:36] has anyone free time slots to work on media? [12:36] very few issues with kde apps [12:37] here's another one not so much caused by, but just an incompleteness in the patches: bug 72279 [12:37] Malone bug 72279 in openoffice.org "Save as still using media:/ kio instead of true path" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72279 === rpereira [n=rpereira@ubuntu/member/rpereira] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [12:37] allee: but to me, for example, going to /media to browse an audio cd and get a blank page..... that's really evil [12:38] Tonio_: yeah, that most anoying (plus mounting when 'do nothing' is selected [12:38] some of the issues that used to come up with kde apps (like kaffeine) have been fixed since dapper as well [12:38] Tonio_: have you spoken to sime about this? [12:38] allee: yes, that too, and the point of not beeing able to "unmount" is a nightmare for qtparted [12:39] Riddell: yes, but that's really very hard to fix according to him [12:39] Riddell: that's the reason the desktop icon still uses audiocd:/ [12:39] Tonio_: I would like that media open media:/ but clicking on an icon in media:/ emits the tranlated path. but that's not easily possible [12:39] it was like impossible to map audiocd:/ to /media/cdrom [12:39] and also the names on the desktop are a bit crappy [12:40] "disk" on a french desktop is worse than the standard "Removable Media 256 MB" [12:40] on an english desktop orry === PupUserfaa491 [n=PupUserf@d205-250-245-108.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [12:40] so in my opinion, as feisty is the latest kde 3 release [12:40] hey any girls in here? prolly not eh [12:40] Mhmm, anyone knowing the involed code? Is it realistic to get these issues fixed? [12:41] so presumably the latest stable version before feisty+2, we should improve the patches on remove them [12:41] allee: I suspect only Sime for now [12:41] PupUserfaa491: don't disturb the meeting [12:41] ridell u should suck my cock u fagget [12:41] hm? [12:41] can someone kick that asshole please ? [12:41] Wow. [12:41] What a prick. [12:41] Jucato: where are you ops rights [12:41] i dont have ops [12:41] wow thats the most excitment ive seen inhere [12:42] Lure: only in #kubuntu and -ops [12:42] u siad asshole [12:42] ur a bad person [12:42] !ops [12:42] Nice. [12:42] What a class act. === illovae [n=illovae@uni14-1-82-233-221-131.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [12:42] I love the "ignore" functionnality of irc [12:42] ohayo :) [12:42] nalioth: PupUserfaa491 [12:42] g2g dinner [12:42] it 3 o clock u fag === mode/#ubuntu-meeting [+b *!*@d205-250-245-108.bchsia.telus.net] by nalioth === PupUserfaa491 was kicked off #ubuntu-meeting by nalioth (nalioth) [12:42] thanks mate [12:43] thanks [12:43] Much thanks ^_^ [12:43] wow [12:43] so that's my opinion concerning the patches, very interesting to test for edgy === Hobbsee apologises - boss called. [12:43] but really not mature enough for a stable release, so to be improved or temporary removed === Hobbsee reads the backscroll [12:43] Tonio_: I'm entirely undecided on the media patch question [12:43] Tonio_: can we get a list of issues grouped together on wiki page and prioritize them? [12:43] since they create as many issues as fixed problems [12:43] seems like it creates problems and fixes them [12:44] Riddell: yes that's the point [12:44] Riddell: but standard kde problems are well known, it is easy to find a solution over the net [12:44] the kubuntu specific issues aren't [12:44] Lure: but would anyone fix them? [12:44] that's the point [12:45] Riddell: we need to talk with SIme_, I am also willing to look into it after FF [12:45] Lure, Riddell: I'll try to make a list of all known problems, categorized by importance, and fixed issues [12:45] Riddell: for me it would be a step back if we remove it [12:45] then we'll balance and make a decision next meeting, okay ? [12:45] Lure: hum, there is too much to do on those patches for feisty [12:45] Tonio_: fine with me - we can drop them anytime until Beta I suppose [12:45] ok, procrastinate while you two look at the issues [12:46] thanks Lure, Tonio_ [12:46] Lure: lots of users are complaning they have to rebuild kdebase without the patches since lots of multimedia related things don't work for them [12:46] great [12:46] that's a pitty [12:46] manchicken: your item [12:46] fortunately, this should be fixed in kde4 anyway [12:46] yup === Tonio_ back in 5 minutes [12:46] Tonio_: I had to build amarok for that reason [12:47] Okay, so I've been thinking of several different ways to do changelogs in adept. [12:47] I had a couple ideas. [12:47] I could take a copout and open it in kedit/kate/registered-text/plan-editor... [12:48] I could display a dialog with a disabled line text widget. [12:48] I could make it one big label [12:48] I could go on and on. [12:48] I think it's obvious to figure out which is the easiest, but I wanted some more ideas. [12:48] Because 2 and 3 are the same idea essentially. [12:48] my preference is for whatever synaptic does :) [12:48] And I'm not okay with only 2 options. [12:49] What? You want me to use synaptic? ;) [12:49] I guess I'll have to install it. [12:49] no no, but since we're copying their feature may as well copy the UI too [12:49] I've never used synaptic. [12:49] heh :) [12:49] Adept and apt-get CLI meet my needs, so I'll have to research that. [12:50] for adpet-updater it shouldn't show the whole changelog, only the changes since the currently installed version [12:50] If anybody else had any other ideas, I'm more than interested in hearing them. [12:50] Right. === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [12:50] changelogs.ubuntu has different files for each version. [12:50] I haven't combed them yet, but I suspect that they're actually specific to the version. [12:50] another point is that the changelogs aren't user focused, they are developer focused, so it should be marked as "Developer Changes", not just "Changes" [12:51] good point [12:51] Ah. [12:51] That's good. [12:51] I'll need to make sure I'm keeping my audience in mind. [12:51] It'd be neat if we had the ability to have before and after screenshots for when we have UI changes. [12:51] and I'd go for a non-editable qtextedit [12:51] although some users are curious about what's the update about, I doubt they'd easily understand that changelogs anyway [12:51] manchicken: and they are writen in english [12:52] allee: Is kbabel too terrible to work with that? [12:52] we get a lot of requests for changelogs in adept_updater [12:52] Yeah, it's something I've wanted. [12:52] Jucato: the ones in -updates might be useful - SRU requires more descriptive changelogs [12:53] I can't see any easy way to do translations on them [12:53] manchicken: never tries. With all the slang I don't expect much [12:53] Lure: ah nice to know that :) [12:53] allee: True. [12:53] allee: ;-) [12:53] It would be nice if we had a group of people who helped with that, but that task would be quite daunting. [12:53] as long as you can copy from the changelogs [12:54] Yeah, I can. [12:54] I already have code in place to give me the proper location for the changelog. [12:54] ie, as long as the user can, from within adept/adept_updater [12:54] manchicken: ok to move on? [12:54] Well, the way adept is designed if it works in one, it'll work in all. [12:54] Riddell: Sure. I'm satisfied ^_^ [12:55] s/it'll work/it can work/ [12:55] mhmm, 2 are two use cases: security updates. text is technical but understandable. b) installs software or new upstream version: then the upstream changelog/NEWS is much more interesting [12:55] Lure: your item [12:55] I just wanted to check what are the plans for some flagship KDE apps for feisty: k3b, digikam, amarok, konversation [12:56] some of them have planned releases soon and we should know if we can fit them in feisty schedule [12:56] konversation should be in sync with our release schedule again [12:56] and if anybody is working on prerelease packages [12:56] Lure: I'll probably do k3b [12:56] k3b trueg has promised me to have a schedule by feature freeze, if 1.0 isn't out in time he doesn't want us to use release candidates [12:56] Riddell: good, digikam 0.9.1 was supposed to be, but will be a bit late now [12:57] Tonio_: seaLne is already working on k3b [12:57] Lure: yeah just saw that, so let's go with this [12:57] my concern is that new apps also have new depends and those might require MIR [12:57] Lure: I'll have to test the kdesktop implementation [12:57] hmm, amarok needing a new libgpod isn't good [12:57] but it's out next week isn't it? so should be do-able [12:57] Lure: I didn't receive any response for the patch we did [12:57] Riddell: kipi-plugins also need new libgpod [12:57] Lure: amarok's doing imbrandon. er, other way around. [12:57] Is amarok going to have libmtp by default? [12:58] Lure: why does kipi-plugins use libgpod? [12:58] Riddell: and digikam 0.9.1 needs new package (libkexiv2) [12:58] Riddell: yes === Hobbsee thought konversation wasnt going to be out in time? [12:58] manchicken: already does [12:58] Riddell: for the new ipodexport plugin [12:58] Riddell: for video/photo export to iPod [12:58] Riddell: Let me guess... in feisty? ;) [12:58] Hobbsee: I'll ask Sho_ about it === Hobbsee just did [12:58] I've downloaded today the libgpod 0.4.2 that are currently stuck in debian NEW. Good candidate for a -0ubuntu1 version [12:58] just saw :) [12:59] Lure: I think if digikam needs new libkexif that's OK, there's nothing else major depending on it [12:59] Riddell: do we need to push rc/beta versions in archive before FF in order to each upgrade to released version later [12:59] allee: the sources are already in ubuntu [12:59] of libgpod 0.4.2 [12:59] or should we hope to get UVF exception [12:59] right, couple of weeks is konversation [12:59] Hobbsee: really? [12:59] Lure: best to just get an UVF I think [01:00] Riddell: ok, might be tough to get them... === jenda [n=jenda@195.47.80.185.adsl.nextra.cz] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [01:00] Lure: getting UVFs is easy enough assuming that you have a sensible plan [01:00] Riddell: not libkexif (no longer used) a new (not yet releases lib) libkexiv2. next kipi-plugins (far away), digikam 0.9.1 and next showimg release will use it [01:01] Mithrandir: even if they add features? [01:01] msarah@LongPointyStick:~$ madison libgpod [01:01] libgpod | 0.4.2-0ubuntu1 | http://mirror.pacific.net.au feisty/main Sources [01:01] libgpod | 0.4.2-0ubuntu1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main Sources [01:01] Lure: yep [01:01] Hobbsee: great [01:01] Mithrandir: including "upstream wont release earlier, it's mostly bugfixes?" [01:01] Lure: feature freeze refers to internal development, not external. [01:01] allee: oh, well in that case it can't break anything else :) [01:01] Hobbsee: yes, if upstream is working together with us to make sure we have something good for feisty, that's fine. [01:01] Riddell: concerning digikam, what is the ubuntu way to do for a new version of a lib ? [01:02] Mithrandir: excellent. they are. [01:02] Mithrandir: ok, good to know - so we just need to ensure that it is very stable upload [01:02] is exiv2 already in main? [01:02] Riddell: from revu to universe, then main inclusion report etc ... ? [01:02] I'd like you to mail ubuntu-devel about this beforehand, though, not assume that all is good in the end. [01:02] allee: yse. [01:02] yes, even [01:02] allee: yes === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [01:02] or is that directly uploadable as previous version is already in the repos ? [01:02] good [01:02] allee: no we just have libkexif1 [01:03] Mithrandir: fine, you cannot expect 100% accetance always [01:03] Mithrandir: as in now, or when it releases? [01:03] libkexif1 is dead [01:03] will be replaced by libkexiv2 [01:03] Hobbsee: a plan nowish would be good. [01:03] allee: I know, but I wanted to know what is the way to get it in.... [01:03] Mithrandir: okay [01:03] (so not necessarily today, but before FF) [01:03] !schedule [01:03] Lure: fancy doing that e-mail then? === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [01:04] or anyone else.. [01:04] Riddell, Mithrandir: so just a list of apps with depends that we plan to include after FF? [01:04] Lure: and expected release dates [01:05] Lure: and preferably links to the discussion with upstream where they agree to work with you, and release dates, yes. [01:05] Riddell: will try to collect this on wiki so that everybody can contribute [01:05] allee: we should first get libkexiv2 in the archives [01:05] Tonio_: well, first we need a tarball ;) [01:05] estimates are fine, but please try to make them as precise as possible. [01:05] allee: isn't it released ? [01:05] Tonio_: released tarball I mean. [01:05] Mithrandir: ok, will do - thanks [01:05] i'll do the konversation related email [01:05] Tonio_: no. still discussing API [01:05] allee: hehe okay :) [01:06] Hobbsee: thanks, I will do digikam with allee and k3b is handled by seaLne [01:06] Tonio_: I assume it will be release together with digikam 0.9.1-beta1 [01:06] Hobbsee: is imbrandon still taking care of amarok? [01:06] Lure: he is, but i'll do it if he doesnt. [01:06] Lure: I don't think so..... [01:07] Lure: he's very busy at work. he said he'd do it though [01:07] if not, i'll do it again [01:07] Riddell: I'd like to talk process too if we get time at the end of the meeting. [01:07] Just recognizing some keywords that bring questions to mind ^_^ [01:07] manchicken: ok [01:07] ok, let's do it over wiki so everybody can contribute and jump in, then we will send e-mail [01:07] Hobbsee: I'll ping sealne concerning k3b since there are scripts and other things to test for the multimedia spec [01:07] Tonio_: cool [01:08] Lure: your item next [01:08] We have two SRU for edgy in -proposed: not sure if anybody is testing them [01:08] good thing manchicken is still on edgy [01:09] heh [01:09] Lure: have you poked #kubuntu-testers? there's usually edgy people in there willing to try stuff [01:09] I can run some cases ^_^ [01:09] people on edgy would need to enable -proposed repository and report back [01:09] Riddell: did not know that this exists - is this what mhb started? [01:09] Lure: I emailed Simon concerning this, no response yet [01:09] Lure: it is yes [01:10] Riddell: ok, then I will ping him when around [01:10] and talking of SRU, we should look at fixing qt for scribus in dapper and/or edgy [01:10] Lure: also we have to prepare SRU for knetworkmanager and kdebase, but well if it takes 2 month to get them released..... === ScottK [n=ScottK@static-72-81-252-22.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [01:10] Tonio_: feisty will be out quicker :P [01:10] Hobbsee: that's the problem :) [01:11] Tonio_: I know, those two were stuck for long [01:11] Tonio_: with new archive admins it should be much faster than that [01:11] Riddell: I hope so.... [01:11] Tonio_: but I think pitti is now on archive too, so it is speeding up [01:12] Lure: so, ping #kubuntu-testers, and ask on kubuntu-devel mailing list too [01:12] 2006-11-28, that's the date I wrote the digikam SRU..... [01:12] Lure: also #ubuntu-bugs is ment to be there for SRUs [01:12] Riddell: will do [01:12] Mithrandir: can you give back libgpod on all arches please? [01:12] Lure: oh and Canonical has a new KDE using QA dude! [01:12] Riddell: yay! [01:12] Riddell: true, but we need kubuntu guys [01:12] Lure: so ping bdmurray too [01:13] Riddell: what is huis nick? [01:13] ^^ [01:13] ok, nice to know [01:13] right, libgpod is sitting in depwait. [01:14] Lure: ok, your item next again [01:14] I just wanted to check remaining features we want to sneak before FF [01:14] I'm working on software-properties for the new sources.list editor [01:14] seems to be going well [01:14] I still plan to do laptop keys for suspend/hibernate; not sure what is the status of ksynaptic inclusion? === ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:Ubugtu] : Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 01 Feb 21:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 05 Feb 20:00 UTC: Mozilla Team | 07 Feb 12:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 08 Feb 16:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 13 Feb 16:00 UTC: Forum Council | 13 Feb 20:00 UTC: Technical Board [01:15] Tonio_: ? [01:15] and mvo has merged the dist-upgrader and will upload after Herd [01:15] Lure: I patched it to use systemsettings [01:15] we can't include ksynaptics in main, it needs manual changes to the xorg.conf file [01:15] Lure: no way to get main inclusion on that point since requires touching xorg.conf [01:15] Tonio_: so will we MIR and ship it? [01:15] ok, so will write in spec the status [01:15] Lure: no, but it'll go cleanly in systemsettings when installed [01:16]