[12:27] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: for 2?
[12:28] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso: yes :) Hobbsee will take it depending on what it involves
[12:28] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: Ah, I see.  "backup vote"
[12:28] <gnomefreak> so ther eis always the other person incase Hobbse_e doesnt want it
[12:29] <tonyyarusso> c'mon Crass....say something.  I need to know whether I'm leaving you alone or banning you so I can go make myself some dinner..
[12:29] <LjL> tonyyarusso, it's too late already, he left minutes ago
[12:29] <tonyyarusso> oh, whoop
[12:29] <tonyyarusso> next time I gotta /hilight -all so I catch those
[12:30] <gnomefreak> who is crass?
[12:30] <LjL> that's how i know he left ;)
[12:30] <LjL> gnomefreak: a troll
[12:30] <gnomefreak> in here?
[12:30] <LjL> no in #ubuntu, previously
[12:30] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[12:30] <tonyyarusso> LjL: Thought maybe he just changed nick - there's a very similar one (just remove the numbers)
[12:31] <LjL> oh, that's right, his ISP (or whatever it is) is not online anymore tho
[12:31] <LjL> uh. well, do a /whois, he doesn't look nice either =)
[12:31] <tonyyarusso> heh
[12:32] <LjL> tonyyarusso: oh, and crass178 had already joined with other different crass### nicks, though always from generic.rio.com from what i can see
[12:32] <gnomefreak> nice channel #remote-exploit :(
[12:32] <LjL> yeah...
[12:33] <LjL> though that guy's probably not the same person, i can see there was a "crass" online (cannot be sure it was him, but) the day Edgy came out
[12:34] <gnomefreak> there done
[12:38] <linux_kid> Could we negotiate allowing my IP back in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:42] <Hobbsee> any staffers here?
[12:42] <nalioth> linux_kid: we can consider quieting you here until seveas returns or 24 hours have passed.
[12:42] <Hobbsee> nalioth: in #ubuntu-meeting please
[12:42] <Hobbsee> ban the idiot
[12:42] <Jucato> nalioth: help?
[12:44] <linux_kid> OK, I'll shut up.  But Im going to start my own channel
[12:44] <LjL> ask some of the offtopic people, i'm sure they can help you with that *cough*
[12:45] <nalioth> linux_kid: http://freenode.net/channel_guidelines.shtml
[12:45] <linux_kid> ok, thanks for the tips, wish me good luck!
[12:52] <linux_kid> You are all free to join my channel, #outbac
[12:54] <maxamillion> !advertisement
[12:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about advertisement - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:54] <maxamillion> bah ...
[12:54] <maxamillion> nvm
[12:57] <linux_kid> maxamillion: Im not advertising... Ive been banned from #ubuntu-offtopic and wanted to have my own Off-Topic channel
[12:57] <nalioth> linux_kid: please wait on seveas.  this is not a social channel
[12:57] <linux_kid> nalioth: sure, sorry about the social
[01:11] <ubotu> In #kubuntu, DrunkPikachu said: ubotu: pastebin is no fun, what if I WANT to flood the channel with my poorly written shell scripts?
[01:12] <tonyyarusso> :S
[01:12] <LjL> (what if i WANT to ban you out of sheer randomness? :P)
[01:36] <LjL> Minataku, complaining about recent ban from #kubuntu, pointed to here
[01:36] <LjL> Jucato: and don't say he wasn't looking for it >:
[01:36] <Jucato> here it comes
[01:37] <Minataku> I would like to file a complaint that the language restriction is far too strict.
[01:37] <thoreauputic> Minataku: what in particular?
[01:37] <Minataku> "Damn"
[01:37] <thoreauputic> Minataku: who complained about that?
[01:37] <Minataku> LjL banned me for it from #kubuntu
[01:38] <thoreauputic> ah
[01:38] <LjL> Minataku: you weren't banned for you language (though "damn" isn't exactly a nice word), you were banned because, after pointed to the CoC, guidelines and all the rest, you kept the same aggressive attitude, showing you hadn't even started reading them, or could not care less
[01:38] <thoreauputic> Minataku: have you spoken to LjL ?
[01:38] <thoreauputic> ooops
[01:38] <thoreauputic> scratch that :)
[01:38] <Minataku> I'm sorry, I have issues related to being completely ignored, which you did
[01:39] <Minataku> I will, however, apologize for my behavior, as it was out of line
[01:39] <LjL> i don't *have* to click on people's links. to be honesty, i couldn't care less about the link, and cannot be bothered opening a web browser right now. what i'm concerned with is 1) your language 2) the caps 3) the fact that you *knew* it was offtopic, since you had *just* posted the same thing on #kubuntu-offtopic, 4) your complete not understanding of 1, 2 and 3
[01:40] <Minataku> LjL: Long-ingrained behavioral traits don't immediately change just because of the rules of a particular locale
[01:41] <Minataku> Also, I posted that in a number of channels, as I usually do for absurd or interesting links
[01:41] <LjL> fair enough - now you have at least about a day to see if you can change those traits before rejoining the channel
[01:42] <Minataku> I plan to merely rejoin after this 24h and cease conversing instead, or at least that's my plan at the monent
[01:44] <Minataku> I would think you could accept that someone who does actively help can make mistakes and be a little nicer, but then I've seen this sort of thing before
[01:44] <LjL> you have made a mistake, i've kicked you as a warning, you clearly showed you didn't care about the warning... blame yourself. /me is away now
[01:44] <Minataku> Experienced it, no less, at a former job, where I was fired merely because I wasn't liked by the staff
[01:45] <Minataku> And you run away? Hardly honorable behavior
[01:45] <Minataku> But then I'm used to that as well, it's far more prevalent
[01:45] <thoreauputic> Minataku: when you are in a hole, digging is not a good plan :)
[01:46] <Minataku> thoreauputic: He already doesn't like me, so I'm stuck in a hole with a shovel. Gotta keep myself occupied somehow
[01:46] <Jucato> cubes*
[01:47] <nalioth> Minataku: your plan sounds fine, we'll see you tomorrow  :)
[01:47] <Minataku> You know I hate those!
[01:47] <Minataku> Or do you? I don't remember where I said that
[01:47] <Minataku> LjL: Either way, I'm sorry, I have anger issues, which is why it seemed like I didn't care, because at that moment I was angry and I didn't
[01:48] <Minataku> But I'm sorry for that and I guess I'll return tomorrow and I hope we can get back on better terms
[01:48] <LjL> sure
[01:48] <Minataku> No complaint against LjL, BTW
[01:49] <Minataku> I guess I can't complain about him doing his job, after all
[01:49] <Jucato> yeah, Minataku just has complaints about me :)
[01:49] <Minataku> Nah, lol
[01:49] <LjL> heh
[01:49] <Minataku> I'm an ass, I know, I have personality issues, and personality is hard to change... control isn't the easiest either ;3
[01:50] <Jucato> oh control is easy! press Alt+F2, and type in kcontrol
[01:50] <Jucato> :P
[01:50] <Minataku> lol
[01:50] <Minataku> Doesn't work in Fluxbox ;3
[01:50] <Jucato> bah
[01:50] <LjL> or Alt+F4. i do that sometimes, or at least should, when i feel i'm about to lose my control on IRC
[01:50] <Minataku> Or even if I launched an xterm, it still wouldn't work :D
[01:50] <Jucato> LjL: you? lose control? that'll be the end of the world
[01:51] <Minataku> LjL: Internet or real life, human interactions elicit human emotions
[01:51] <LjL> Jucato: possibly... i guess i don't do it often, but when i do, i do :)
[01:51] <maxamillion> Minataku: if what you just said is true, why do you lack control online?
[01:51] <Minataku> It's not "just the internet", the only real difference is that you can't respond by physically assaulting the other person
[01:51] <Minataku> maxamillion: That's just why
[01:52] <Minataku> I tend to lack said control IRL as well
[01:52] <maxamillion> hmmmm....
[01:52] <Minataku> Especially when I get angry, it's like a feedback loop
[01:52] <Minataku> Once I lose it it gets worse until I stop completely
[01:53] <Minataku> LjL: As for the story, would you like the gist of it? It's pretty asinine
[01:54] <LjL> the story on the link? i read it, actually ;)
[01:54] <Minataku> Ah, lol
[01:56] <Minataku> But yeah, again, sorry about that, I'll try and tighten myself in in #kubuntu from now on
[02:22] <nalioth> thoreauputic: please banhammer those idiots from .fr, don't just remove them.  they are hitting all over
[02:23] <LjL> he banned, but by nickname only
[02:23] <Minataku> Frenchies causing trouble?
[02:23] <thoreauputic> nalioth: yeah
[02:23] <thoreauputic> LjL: no, I just kicked as far as I know
[02:23] <LjL> nalioth: more than that one IP address?
[02:23] <nalioth> LjL: yes
[02:23] <LjL> oh, then i read something that wasn't there i guess
[02:24] <nalioth> i think i've banned all that i've seen active on the network so far
[02:24] <LjL> they're saying un-nice thing about the jews, for the record, so it's not quite just a flood
[02:24] <thoreauputic> LjL: I know, I know some French :)
[02:24] <thoreauputic> LjL: I should have kickbanned
[02:24] <Minataku> Oh
[02:25] <Minataku> Are they saying crap like "Jews did WTC"?
[02:25] <Minataku> That's the GNAA
[02:25] <nalioth> klined
[02:25] <Minataku> As for the clients they're either members or zombies
[02:25] <thoreauputic> nalioth: good
[02:26] <Minataku> I wonder if the GNAA believes that or if they just say it to piss people off... Probably the latter, knowing the GNAA
[03:24] <thoreauputic> Hobbsee: you are still opped in #ubuntu - is that intentional ?
[03:25] <Hobbsee> thoreauputic: no, thanks
[03:25] <thoreauputic> OK :)
[03:25] <Hobbsee> :)
[03:25] <Minataku> It should be... I hate that stupid Freenode policy
[03:25] <Hobbsee> it's useful not to be
[03:25] <thoreauputic> Minataku: it isn't a policy - just a recommnedation
[03:26] <thoreauputic> bah typos...
[03:26] <Minataku> It's not useful at all, actually, since it adds a time issue
[03:26] <Minataku> Not to mention you're totally screwed in the event services is out of service (pun not intended)
[03:26] <Hobbsee> otherwise you get people asking "can you make me an op, why dont you do something about y"  or thinking that they can PM and get an answer, just cos i'm an op
[03:26] <thoreauputic> Minataku: it keeps the channel temperature down
[03:26] <Hobbsee> Minataku: yeah, but if chanserv dies, we are anyway :P
[03:26] <Hobbsee> seeing as banning involves chanserv, like op'ing does
[03:27] <Minataku> I think it's dishonorable, but then I've been drawn into fights then banned before
[03:27] <Minataku> Hobbsee: No it doesn't
[03:27] <Minataku> /mode +b *!*@*
[03:27] <Minataku> As an example
[03:27] <thoreauputic> Minataku: dishnourable is a strong word :)
[03:27] <Hobbsee> what do you think controls the modes?
[03:28] <Minataku> Hobbsee: Channel operators, unless the IRCd is configured so ass-backwards such that only U-lined servers are allowed
[03:28] <Minataku> Which it isn't
[03:28] <Minataku> Trust me, if you're a channel operator you can set and clear modes
[03:28] <Minataku> I just tested it to make sure, too XD
[03:28] <thoreauputic> Minataku: do you have any urgent business in #ubuntu-ops or are you just lurking?
[03:29] <Minataku> Yeah, I lost a contact lens... watch where you step
[03:29] <Minataku> Sorry (I don't wear contacts)
[03:29] <Minataku> Heehee
[03:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> :@
[03:31] <Minataku> I'm currently a channel operator in several channels and I'm also a former IRC Operator, until that network was DDoSed then later died off
[05:01] <effie_jayx> jenda,  ping
[05:07] <tritium> Hello?
[05:08] <tonyyarusso> boo
[05:08] <tritium> hi tonyyarusso
[05:08] <tritium> Thought I had lost my voice, but evidently not ;)
[05:16] <thoreauputic> ;)
[05:18] <tritium> Thanks, thoreauputic :)
[05:19] <thoreauputic> tritium: actually I recommend rum and hot lemon ;p
[05:19] <tritium> Now that sounds good!
[05:21] <Mez> It is ;)
[05:21] <tritium> Hi Mez!
[05:22] <Mez> hi
[05:38] <Mez> hmm
[05:38] <Mez> frozen vodka :D
[05:43] <mneptok> munh.
[05:53] <Mez> ?
[06:41] <mneptok> http://haha.nu/funny/hidden-camera/
[06:45] <tonyyarusso> lol
[07:18] <willys_fueguino> ping!
[07:19] <DBO> pong?
[07:22] <willys_fueguino> DBO: could you "review" holycow behaviour on #ubuntu please??
[07:23] <willys_fueguino> ups...
[07:23] <willys_fueguino> already did...
[07:23] <DBO> yes I have
[07:23] <DBO> its a matter between myself and him right now
[07:25] <willys_fueguino> ok...
[07:25] <willys_fueguino> then it's in good hands
[07:25] <willys_fueguino> :-D
[07:38] <willys_fueguino> :-S
[07:40] <willys_fueguino> DBO: what's the point on having voice over here??
[07:41] <Jucato> to show who are ops, afaik
[07:41] <DBO> yes
[07:41] <willys_fueguino> oh...
[07:43] <nalioth> willys_fueguino: it shows you to be a source of help
[07:43] <willys_fueguino> The (open)source is with me ;-)
[07:45] <willys_fueguino> really have to go
[07:45] <willys_fueguino> see you later
[07:46] <Jucato> nalioth: when asking Seveas for a cloak, we PM him, right?
[07:49] <nalioth> Jucato: i've seen folks ask in channel
[07:49] <nalioth> what kind of cloak do you want?
[07:49] <Jucato> nalioth: oh ok. ubuntu member cloak :)
[07:50] <nalioth> oh.
[07:50] <Jucato> :D
[07:50] <nalioth> thought you might have wanted /here/comes/trouble/named/Jucato or something
[07:50] <Jucato> lol
[07:51] <Jucato> I wouldn't  waste my breath on something like that :D
[09:08] <GazzaK> morning Seveas
[09:08] <Seveas> morning
[09:08] <Jucato> moin Seveas
[09:08] <GazzaK> that guy, who called himself billgates, was asking last night if he could be unbanned :p
[09:08] <nalioth> Jucato: there seveas is
[09:09] <nalioth> GazzaK: all things in good time  :)
[09:09] <GazzaK> was kinda funny
[09:09] <nalioth> was kinda pathetic
[09:09] <GazzaK> hows the training going?
[09:09] <GazzaK> how is your head?
[09:10] <GazzaK> nalioth, true, pathetically funny
[09:11] <Seveas> GazzaK, heh :)
[09:11] <Seveas> training is not bad
[09:12] <GazzaK> is it hard work though, learning lots?
[09:13] <Seveas> Jucato, 'sup?
[09:13] <nalioth> Seveas: jucato wants in your closet
[09:13] <Seveas> Jucato, and please throw away the notion of throne - nooen is more important than others
[09:14] <Jucato> Seveas: I'm not sure about the process of asking for an ubuntu member cloak
[09:14] <Seveas> nalioth, that's already filled with my fiancees clothes
[09:14] <Jucato> Seveas: heh ok. /me throws the throne away :)
[09:14] <nalioth> Seveas: no, he wants one of the many cloaks you have to give out
[09:14] <Seveas> Jucato, the process is: give me your launchpad id
[09:14] <Seveas> and wait for me to slap nalioth
[09:14] <GazzaK> lol
[09:14] <GazzaK> can we all?
[09:14] <Jucato> jucato https://launchpad.net/~jucato
[09:15] <Seveas> nalioth, could you check whether linuxba is cloaked?
[09:15] <nalioth> Seveas: cloaked.
[09:15] <Seveas> ok
[09:15] <Seveas> cloak jucato as well please :)
[09:15] <Jucato> yay :)
[09:16] <nalioth>  jucato@here/comes/trouble/with/the/nick/of/Jucato
[09:16] <Jucato> roflmao
[09:22] <apokryphos> Jucato: congrats =)
[09:22] <Jucato> apokryphos: thanks :)
[09:31] <GazzaK> yay, Amaranth you got your membership back
[09:32] <Amaranth> :)
[09:32] <GazzaK> cool
[09:34] <GazzaK> damnit, I need op powa in -offtopic, so I can stick up for myself!!!! :p
[09:34] <GazzaK> I feel victimised :-)
[09:38] <apokryphos> Amaranth: good to have you back =0
[09:38] <apokryphos> * =)
[09:39] <Amaranth> :)
[09:41] <GazzaK> it is good \o/
[09:58] <Seveas> GazzaK, it's actually going in the operatoir guidelines that kicking you is always allowed
[09:59] <GazzaK> is it?  wow, but surely I must be given adequate means to defend myself?
[09:59] <GazzaK> otherwise it is horrid cruel victimization :-)
[10:00] <Amaranth> GazzaK: but you ask for it
[10:00] <GazzaK> do I now?  when
[10:00] <Amaranth> When you join the channel. Didn't you read the EULA? ;)
[10:00] <GazzaK> never have I "asked" for it, at least not so clear it'd stand up in court :p
[10:01] <GazzaK> it's not like I join and say "oi, hello, beat me up you lovely ops"
[10:02] <GazzaK> I treat it however as a form of endearment, you must love me so :-)
[10:05] <Seveas> actually, maybe it would be good to have GazzaK as op in -offtopic
[10:06] <DBO> Seveas was one of those weird kids that when he was bullied, would then present his attackers with weapons
[10:06] <GazzaK> cheers Seeker`
[10:06] <DBO> he is there a lot Seveas
[10:06] <GazzaK> thats due to lack of life
[10:06] <GazzaK> outside is scary
[10:06] <Seveas> DBO, and he behaves better than some of the ops
[10:07] <GazzaK> lol
[10:07] <GazzaK> pot kettle, *cough*
[10:07] <DBO> Seveas, yeah but thats only because you're a prick
[10:07] <GazzaK> and it might be the only way i'll ever get uby membership, as I'm as technical as a lump of cheese
[10:08] <DBO> GazzaK, lumps of cheeze when used properly can be quite useful in scientific endeavours
[10:08] <DBO> they make good bait
[10:09] <Seeker`> GazzaK: You can help with ubuntu-scribes
[10:10] <GazzaK> Seeker`, whats that then?
[10:10] <Seeker`> did you not listen at the end of yesterdays meeting?
[10:11] <GazzaK> erm, I was busy doing stuff, I did say I was
[10:12] <Seeker`> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScribesTeam
[10:13] <DBO> brushing and typing dont mix
[10:13] <TheSheep> that's why they invented the usb toothbrush
[10:25] <GazzaK> that would be more useless than the USB coffee cup warmer
[10:26] <nalioth> GazzaK: so is this true? you are volunteering to be a 'test dummy' for the new ops to test their skill upon?
[10:30] <GazzaK> erm
[10:30] <GazzaK> they test their "skill" on me anyways
[10:30] <GazzaK> is it skill?  or is it megomania
[10:32] <Jucato> g'night nalioth
[10:32] <GazzaK> but yeah, if it helps, i'll volunteer for anything
[10:32] <GazzaK> night nalioth
[10:43] <ubotu> In ubotu, cj_ said: what is bot
[10:45] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, nothlit said: !spletnit is <alias> netsplit
[10:48] <PriceChild> Bah... got a pm spammer
[10:53] <GazzaK> PriceChild, eeek
[10:54] <Seeker`> tell him that for every message he sends, he will be banned for a day, or something
[10:54] <mneptok> or hit on him.
[10:54] <PriceChild> Seeker`, staff are on top I've discovered :)
[10:56] <jenda> :)
[11:01] <GazzaK> awww, thanks jenda
[11:04] <jenda> hehe :)
[11:04] <jenda> mneptok: I presume, GazzaK included?
[11:04] <GazzaK> I'm out to sea anyways
[11:05] <jenda> Oh, and HAPPY BIRTHDAY, GazzaK :)
[11:05] <mneptok> jenda: me keep GazzaK in the igloo village to de-blubber the whale carcasses.
[11:05] <jenda> Reminds me of a funny thingy :) I never told my ex-gf my birthday, because I usually don't, because I don't celebrate it. She googled it.
[11:06] <GazzaK> jenda, that's tomorrow
[11:06] <jenda> mneptok: :)
[11:06] <jenda> mneptok: could I use you instead of /dev/urandom next time I create a random partition?
[11:06] <jenda> err, encrypted partition
[11:08] <mneptok> DHXBCPY956HBI978EU9HTYB09764HBER9G89KXEUTNMBI97845G6FHNEUBIKCROEU7GFY5G6754TBFDIE
[11:08] <mneptok> (i.e. "OK")
[11:08] <jenda> ...DIE?
[11:09] <GazzaK> spam!!!
[11:10] <mneptok> DDoS!
[11:12] <jenda> Something about the tone of your ...HBER... and ...NEUBIK... didn't seem entirely friendly.
[11:14] <mneptok> i thought the #ubuntu channels were NEUBIK friendly
[11:25] <GazzaK> no, they are XEUTN friendly
[11:29] <elkbuntu> rofl
[11:34] <mneptok> that totally IIEUHTUCs
[12:02] <elkbuntu> indeed, very IKCROEU!
[12:06] <GazzaK> madness I tells ye
[12:15] <mneptok> GazzaK: STFU before i put my IINDXKJPOEN deep inside your DIHIUIGDNTNSCGIJ
[12:16] <mneptok> oh great. now i'm aroused.
[12:16] <mneptok> *le sigh*
[12:26] <PriceChild> whoa is it GazzaK's birthday? :)
[12:27] <Seeker`> PriceChild: tomorrow
[12:27] <Seeker`> like what the queen does
[12:28] <PriceChild> lol :)
[12:32] <mneptok> did you just call GazzaK a queen?
[12:32] <Seeker`> no
[12:33] <Seeker`> GazzaK: you are a queen
[12:33] <mneptok> cool. so i can.
[12:33] <Seeker`> now i did
[12:33] <Seeker`> :P
[12:34] <elkbuntu> i thought he was a queer ;)
[12:34] <elkbuntu> * GazzaK (n=Dogbert@unaffiliated/GazzaK) has left #ubuntu-ops ("Connection reset by queer")
[12:35] <GazzaK> hehe
[12:35] <GazzaK> elkbuntu, how much log chasing did you do to get that?
[12:35] <elkbuntu> GazzaK, ctrl f
[12:35] <elkbuntu> it's still in my scrollback
[12:35] <GazzaK> ahhh
[12:36] <GazzaK> PriceChild, it's me birthday tomorra
[12:36] <PriceChild> wooo :)
[12:36] <elkbuntu> plus, "cat ~/.xchat/xchatlogs/Ubuntu\ Servers-#ubuntu-ops | grep queer" would have been sufficient
[12:36] <GazzaK> i'm old :p
[12:37] <jenda> long scrollback, elkbuntu :)
[12:37] <elkbuntu> jenda, 5k
[12:37] <jenda> elkbuntu: that would definitely hog my machine down.
[12:38] <elkbuntu> jenda, heh, my machine goes fine until i have 3xfirefox@15xtabs
[12:38] <jenda> hehe :)
[12:38] <elkbuntu> then firefox decides to take like half a gig in mem+swap
[12:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi Hobbsee
[12:38] <Hobbsee> hey GazzaK, jenda
[12:38] <Hobbsee> hey Kamping_Kaiser
[12:39] <jenda> I don't get that bad on FF - I usually close them as I go, because I know I'd never get back to them.
[12:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[12:39] <jenda> elkbuntu: otoh, I voluntarily decided to hog down my other machine with protein folding ;)
[12:39] <elkbuntu> jenda, lol
[12:40] <jenda> dayum, the mod queue on ubuntu-marketing is approaching 100
[12:40] <jenda> hm, all spam.
[12:40] <elkbuntu> jenda, i still have a f@h account with 1337. i had to reinstall at that point and decided to start a new account rather than spoil the coolness
[12:40] <jenda> hehe :)
[12:41] <jenda> I'm at 8% of my first protein.
[12:43] <jenda> and making a good deal of noise.
[12:43] <jenda> :)
[12:44] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: kde doesnt have a /var/crash folder? maybe apport makes that folder and kde doesnt use apport?
[12:44] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: no idea, i dont use apport
[12:45] <Hobbsee> kcrash is the kde thing -but doesnt automatically file bugs, etc
[12:45] <gnomefreak> but it hold crash reports
[12:45] <PriceChild> jenda, 38% ;)
[12:46] <jenda> 
[01:56] <gnomefreak> lol
[01:57] <PriceChild> :)
[01:57] <Hobbsee> haha
[01:59] <elkbuntu> bwahahaha "Please get yourself off of planet ubuntu. You arent a geek, generally clueless, this blogsucks."
[02:00] <PriceChild> where's that?
[02:01] <elkbuntu> my blog.. in response to my latest post
[02:01] <PriceChild> :(
[02:02] <PriceChild> Wow i've already had a pingback....
[02:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> elkbuntu, nice... managed to stir up more people then when i looked last ;)
[02:02] <elkbuntu> Kamping_Kaiser, yeah, i only posted it cos i was bored
[02:03] <PriceChild> *hugs elkbuntu*
[02:03] <PriceChild> I thought it was quite good...
[02:04] <elkbuntu> PriceChild, if it wasnt, it wouldnt be getting people cut ;)
[02:04] <PriceChild> hehe ;)
[02:04] <elkbuntu> satire should, like a polished razor keen, wound with a touch, that is neither felt nor seen
[02:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> elkbuntu, it made some people think, right or not
[02:05] <PriceChild> Yeah and that's the whole point
[02:05] <elkbuntu> Kamping_Kaiser, yep. there's a number of thought trains in there too, tbh. geek stereotype, hypocrisy, others i cant even identify
[02:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[02:06] <elkbuntu> like seriously, some people take more care of their harddrives than they do of their bodies. it's stupid
[02:06] <elkbuntu> Kamping_Kaiser, you werent the one stinking of trash can in matthews a on the last day of LCA
[02:07] <TheSheep> who cares about meat world? ;)
[02:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> no, true enough
[02:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. only a tonyyserver
[02:56] <thunderstruck> that didnt help :(
[03:49] <FairLite> Seveas, nalioth: ping
[03:51] <FairLite> gnomefreak, apokryphos
[03:51] <apokryphos> hi
[03:52] <apokryphos> FairLite: what's the problem?
[03:53] <apokryphos> ?
[03:53] <FairLite> seriously
[03:53] <apokryphos> FairLite: what's the problem?
[03:54] <FairLite> apokryphos: it's ljl, join ##ljl2
[03:54] <gnomefreak> ?
[03:55] <apokryphos> why?
[03:56] <Seveas> FairLite, ?
[03:57] <Seveas> --- Cannot join ##ljl2 (Channel is invite only).
[03:57] <gnomefreak> Seveas: oh big issues
[03:57] <Seveas> then invit me please
[03:58] <gnomefreak> LjL: invite seveas please
[04:48] <LjL> apokryphos, gnomefreak, Seveas: ok sorry guys, you see that i just went totally out of my head after seeing that stuff in the place of my stupid CUPS webadmin. remind me to never accept jobs as a sysadmin. thanks for caring, anyway
[04:49] <Seveas> LjL, it's all right - I'm glad you weren't hacked
[04:50] <LjL> oh, i can assure you i'm just as glad =) i'll be even more glad to remove OpenDNS from my DNS list now. my dad thought i had become crazy, i believe, i started pulling network cables from the entire house
[04:51] <LjL> so much for software that tries to be smart. if i mistype hostnames, i'll just take the error and correct manually
[04:52] <LjL> since when does freenode log anyway? weren't there channels that didn't *want* to be logged at all, like #wikipedia?
[05:02] <LjL> jenda: may i bother you for a cloak?
[05:05] <nalioth> LjL: identify yourself to services please
[05:05] <LjL> oh, i'm not - sure sorry, forgot i'd changed my password...
[05:05] <nalioth> LjL: what kind of cloak?
[05:05] <LjL> unaffiliated
[05:06] <nalioth> for you?
[05:06] <LjL> yes nalioth, i just found i'm not comfortable with my IP address showing up anymore
[05:13] <LjL> i should be set for what i can tell
[05:13] <nalioth> LjL: hide your email
[05:13] <LjL> it isn't hidden? thought i'd hidden it
[05:34] <Seeker`> who can have cloaks?
[05:35] <LjL> Seeker`: anyone
[05:35] <LjL> Seeker`: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[05:37] <Seeker`> can someone in here do unaffiliated ones?
[05:37] <gnomefreak> is there a way to tell if your gpg key is RSA or not?
[05:38] <LjL> Seeker`, right now i think you're better off using /stats p
[05:50] <LjL> gnomefreak: using KGPG, i am told that i have a DSA key with an additional ElGamal key for encryption
[05:50] <LjL> i'm not sure how the same information is obtained from gpg
[05:50] <LjL> i suppose that "gpg --list-keys" gives it, if you know how to read it
[05:50] <gnomefreak> ok ty
[05:50] <gnomefreak> it doesnt
[05:52] <LjL> gnomefreak: well, for me it lists "pub 1024D/63062075" and "sub 2048g/1C2187D5" - given what KGPG says, i'd interpret that as "public key, DSA 1024bit" and "subkey,  ElGamal 2048bit" respectively
[05:52] <LjL> so if you get something like 1024R (just guessing), i suppose it'd be RSA
[05:52] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[05:53] <LjL> or just install KGPG if you have KDE ;)
[05:53] <LjL> (doubt it somehow)
[06:00] <LjL> gaah i can never remember which one of the "a"s is doubled in Kaarsemaker :P
[06:30] <LjL> gee chanserv's slow
[06:32] <LjL> watch for 83.230.*.* addresses (iperbanda.es)
[06:32] <tonyyarusso> hilighting
[06:35] <tonyyarusso> Oh funny.  This guy doesn't know what he's in for!  -someone on the Canada ML asking "also, can you send me, offlist if need be, all your ubuntu links?"
[06:44] <Tm_T> LjL: Roger, staff already knows it gladly. :)
[06:44] <Tm_T> Or so I hope.
[06:45] <LjL> Tm_T: that guy in #kubuntu wasn't an 83.230 though. i banned him from everywhere though, since he later spammed in #ubuntu too
[06:45] <Tm_T> LjL: Hmm, what, did I look something wrong?!
[06:46] <LjL> Tm_T: 85.104.83.221 was the guy who you were going to kick but he left
[06:46] <Tm_T> Yu.
[06:46] <LjL> anyway, staffers should surely like to know about him too :)
[06:46] <Tm_T> Same ip in #kde, there's others too?
[06:46] <Tm_T> LjL: I did copypaste logs.
[06:47] <LjL> Tm_T: not that i know of. the ones i was talking about (the 83.230 ones) are people who start randomly talking in spanish in #ubuntu (which happens quite often, for some reason)
[06:47] <LjL> Tm_T: then check out the bantracker, there are similar logs for #ubuntu as well
[06:47] <Tm_T> LjL: Aah, then not as bad.
[06:47] <Tm_T> I can't log in =)
[06:47] <Tm_T> But will do when I'm able (missing gpg or so)
[06:47] <LjL> shouldn't have to, it is publicly accessible now
[06:48] <apokryphos> LjL: good to hear it was nothing serious :)
[06:48] <Tm_T> Ah, I wonder what I was fiddling back then.
[06:48] <LjL> apokryphos: no it was quite ridiculous indeed, but i *did* get scared =) /whois me to see the result ;)
[06:48] <LjL> Tm_T, you still need to register and log in to add comments, just not to browse it
[06:49] <apokryphos> heh =)
[06:49] <Tm_T> Ah, ok, good to hear.
[06:49] <apokryphos> good to hear you joined us :P
[06:49] <LjL> well, i already miss my hostmask a little, but :P
[06:50] <Tm_T> I'm off now, hungry after 2-day expo, I was there in FLUG (Finnish LUG) booth (?)
[06:51] <willys_fueguino> hello everyone.. good evening?
[06:51] <PriceChild> wooo new op?
[06:51] <PriceChild> hey Tm_T
[06:51] <apokryphos> Tm_T's been a kubuntu op for some time, but I didn't know about.. willys_fueguino?
[06:52] <PriceChild> ahhh ok :)
[06:52] <PriceChild> willys_fueguino, is LoCo
[06:52] <nixternal> boo
[06:54] <willys_fueguino> PriceChild: yea I am
[07:05] <willys_fueguino> :-S
[07:05] <willys_fueguino> is it really important to have voice over here??
[07:06] <tonyyarusso> not particularly
[07:06] <nalioth> willys_fueguino: are you an op in an #ubuntu-* channel?
[07:06] <willys_fueguino> on 2 or 3....
[07:07] <nalioth> willys_fueguino: then you are noted as an op in an #ubuntu-* channel by the "voice" symbol
[07:08] <willys_fueguino> :-O
[07:08] <willys_fueguino> mm.. thanx nalioth
[07:08] <ubotu> In ubotu, ferret_0567__ said: !google is awesome!
[07:08] <tonyyarusso> haha
[07:08] <willys_fueguino> I have a *REALLY* important question for the ubuntu-ops
[07:09] <willys_fueguino> tough I think it's for freenode staffers but here I go:
[07:10] <willys_fueguino> What should be done, if a user is "atacking" another one (not trough irc), and their argument started and coninues on IRC ???
[07:10] <willys_fueguino> *continues
[07:12] <tonyyarusso> Most likely they'd have to leave IRC, since that would be offtopic for Freenode.  Offline isn't really our issue.
[07:13] <willys_fueguino> aha...
[07:13] <willys_fueguino> I had to deal with that as an op
[07:14] <willys_fueguino> the "atacker" argument was "How can you probe that I did it?"
[07:15] <gnomefreak> in a channel?
[07:15] <nalioth> willys_fueguino: what happens in a channel is the channel owners responsibility
[07:15] <willys_fueguino> oh really??
[07:16] <willys_fueguino> well,,, that problem it's in the past now....
[07:16] <willys_fueguino> but I wanted to know your opinion..
[07:16] <willys_fueguino> gnomefreak: yup
[07:18] <tonyyarusso> Someone talked to holycow yesterday about language didn't they?
[07:19] <willys_fueguino> yes...
[07:19] <willys_fueguino> DBO did it I think...
[07:19] <tonyyarusso> argh then
[07:26] <Tm_T> apokryphos: Been op some time, can't remember if its about a year already.
[07:29] <nalioth> Tm_T: this is what you get for playing "hard to get"
[07:30] <Tm_T> ?
[07:30] <Tm_T> What did I do this time?
[07:30] <Tm_T> If it's broken, it wasn't me!
[07:35] <nalioth> Tm_T: you've been absent from this channel up until a few days ago
[07:35] <nalioth> Tm_T: nobody knows who you are
[07:57] <willys_fueguino> nalioth: ping?
[08:02] <nalioth> willys_fueguino: pong
[08:02] <willys_fueguino> nalioth: If a user doesn't connecs for over a year, I could take his nick?
[08:03] <nalioth> willys_fueguino: 60 days w/o use and you can request it, yes.
[08:03] <willys_fueguino> nalioth: then I want to request the nick smeagol
[08:05] <nalioth> willys_fueguino: please /nick smeagol my preciousssssssss
[08:05] <PriceChild> hehe :)
[08:05] <willys_fueguino> jajajajjaja
[08:06] <LjL> nice, at least now i know how it's spelled
[08:06] <smeagol> :-O
[08:08] <mc44> actaully its Smagol, but hey ho :p
[08:08] <LjL> nicks are ASCII only :P
[08:09] <smeagol> mc44: lets go
[08:15] <Tm_T> nalioth: Ah, I didn't know about this channel =)
[08:47] <Seveas> Tm_T, where are you op?
[08:48] <willys_fueguino> Question: Is it good to add 1 freenode staffer and 1 ubuntu-op on access "just in case"??
[08:48] <Tm_T> Seveas: #kubuntu
[08:48] <Seveas> willys_fueguino, add freenode/staff/* to the access list for the 'just in case' :)
[08:49] <SportChick> hehe, you beat me to it, Seveas :)
[08:49] <Tm_T> (and ofcourse -fi too but that's quite "whocares")
[08:49] <Seveas> Tm_T, can you please join the ubuntu-irc team on launchpad then :)
[08:49] <willys_fueguino> allright then...
[08:49] <Tm_T> Seveas: Yes, sir!
[08:51] <nalioth> willys_fueguino: adding freenode staff to the access list is a good idea in any channel
[08:51] <Tm_T> Ouch, forgot launchpad passwd again.
[08:52] <Tm_T> February 06 and september same year, harhar.
[08:52] <Tm_T> Actually those are mostly only cases I login to launchpad. =)
[08:53] <Tm_T> s/are/were/
[08:54] <Tm_T> Ha, got it. =)
[08:56] <PriceChild> lol nalioth
[09:02] <willys_fueguino> I'll be away so I'll leave temporarily
[09:20] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-gr, ktogias said: !ufuntu is eleni
[09:22] <Seveas> apokryphos, your loco --^
[09:22] <Seveas> :p
[09:23] <apokryphos> some of them are only discovering it now
[09:23] <apokryphos> despite me using it about 100 times already 8)
[09:28] <PriceChild> :)
[09:31] <Tm_T> New spamwave incoming I afraid
[10:03] <willys_fueguino> @karma
[10:03] <willys_fueguino> !karma
[10:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about karma - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:03] <Tm_T> willys_fueguino: Harhar.
[10:03] <willys_fueguino> :-
[10:04] <linux_kid> Seveas: Could you ever forgive me for being "billgates" in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[10:04] <Tm_T> willys_fueguino: 23:03 <@insanity> karma for tm_t: -389
[10:04] <willys_fueguino> lol!
[10:04] <willys_fueguino> Tm_T: :-SSSS
[10:04] <Seveas> @karma tm_t
[10:04] <Tm_T> willys_fueguino: Yeah, so small numbers still :(
[10:04] <Ubugtu> negative infinity
[10:04] <Tm_T> Ubugtu: Thanks <3
[10:05] <willys_fueguino> Tm_T: but why's that??
[10:05] <Tm_T> willys_fueguino: Well, #amarok say "~tm_t" ;)
[10:05] <willys_fueguino> it could be 'cause you didn't contributed on a long time??
[10:06] <Tm_T> willys_fueguino: No, karma that insanity returns is #amarok karma only ;)
[10:06] <willys_fueguino> :-S
[10:54] <LjL> apokryphos: watch #ubuntu... :-)
[10:55] <apokryphos> watched 8)
[10:55] <LjL> noted ;)
[10:56] <apokryphos> woop, dinner
[11:00] <willys_fueguino> apokryphos: buen provercho ;-)
[11:01] <linux_kid> look at the comment from tito_linux in #ubuntu
 I am so close to suicide!  [What happened to family friendly?] 
[11:03] <willys_fueguino> linux_kid: :-\
[11:03] <linux_kid> yes i know
[11:03] <willys_fueguino> linux_kid: figurative speaking :-\
[11:03] <linux_kid> its still pushing the envolope
[11:03] <willys_fueguino> But I'm not the right person to talk about that
[11:03] <linux_kid> lol