[12:00] <cronic> How can I upgrade my old version of ubuntu to 6.x?
[12:01] <thoreauputic> !upgrade
[12:01] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[12:01] <krang> `Penumbra: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[12:02] <`Penumbra> ya im doing that
[12:02] <linux_kid> Dre13: what is your problem
[12:02] <Drel3> Drele from the Mars asking for help
[12:02] <Drel3> anybody known any prog where i can wath my router connection logs
[12:02] <Drel3> sorry watch
[12:03] <roho> how do you do file associations in nautilus?
[12:03] <thoreauputic> roho: try right click, properties, open with and change the association there
[12:03] <linux_kid> Dre13: xface has a tray icon that shows incomming and outgoing connections...
[12:03] <Crass631> hello?
[12:03] <roho> thoreauputic: i don't think you can change the association there
[12:03] <thoreauputic> roho: yes you can
[12:03] <wabz> how can I find out why installing nvidia-glx wants to install the -386 kernel?
[12:04] <linux_kid> foho: some files let you
[12:04] <Drel3> i am in gnome
[12:04] <thoreauputic> roho: I do it all the time :)
[12:04] <LcMatt> http://www.debian.org/
[12:04] <thoreauputic> roho: just right click the file and try it
[12:04] <wabz> or, how can I find out what packages are installed that aren't listed in the repos in my sources.lst?
[12:04] <pbureau> !nvidia
[12:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:04] <roho> alright
[12:04] <wabz> (including newer versions)
[12:04] <kap> hm
[12:04] <kap> anyone alive in here
[12:04] <roho> but i want a specific type of file with the same program EVERY time.
[12:05] <thoreauputic> kap: no, we're all dead
[12:05] <kap> haha
[12:05] <kap> uhm
[12:05] <thoreauputic> roho: *sigh* just try what I said
[12:05] <roho> i just did!
[12:05] <kap> anyone know a lot about modules?
[12:05] <roho> it doesn't default to that
[12:05] <thoreauputic> roho: no you didn't
[12:05] <kap> i have a very indepth question
[12:05] <kap> that im stuck on
[12:05] <thoreauputic> roho: properties, open with, add
[12:05] <linux_kid> kap: shoot
[12:06] <roho> !
[12:06] <roho> thanks a lot, thoreauputic
[12:06] <linux_kid> kap: no one can answer until you ask
[12:06] <thoreauputic> roho: no worries :)
[12:06] <kap> ok basically i have intel pro 3945ag or something to that tune and it requires the driver ipw3945
[12:06] <roho> now, the real problem.
[12:06] <roho> when i lock the screen, i usually close the lid of the laptop
[12:06] <kap> well it comes preinstalled on ubuntu the only problem is that the pre compiled version has monitoring mode commented out
[12:07] <roho> when i come back and open the lid, i can't wake the system
[12:07] <kap> sooo
[12:07] <roho> if it stays open, it doesn't freeze like that
[12:07] <kap> basically i unloaded that ipw3945
[12:07] <kap> and now im trying to compile the source that i got from SF
[12:07] <Crass178> How do i acccess pornographic material with ubuntu?
[12:07] <thoreauputic> roho: probably hardware specific
[12:07] <kap> and heres the first error
[12:07] <linux_kid> kap: i think you may have to reinstall.  I dont quite understand your problem
[12:08] <roho> thoreauputic: so it has nothing to do with the screensaver?
[12:08] <thoreauputic> roho: some laptops work better than others with sleep
[12:08] <tonyyarusso> !coc | Crass178
[12:08] <ubotu> Crass178: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[12:08] <kap> uhm
[12:08] <roho> yeah, but i disabled the sleep settings
[12:08] <thoreauputic> roho: try turning the screensver off to see
[12:08] <roho> k
[12:08] <tovella> Crass178: Children visit this room.
[12:08] <kap> linuxkid: i need to load a different module for my wireless card
[12:08] <linux_kid> Crass178: I AM A CHILD
[12:08] <roho> if it still doesn't work after i've disabled the screen saver, then it's probably unfixable, right?
[12:08] <kap> linuxkid: actually its the same module just compiled with another option
[12:09] <linux_kid> kap: im lazy and just used linuxant.. no clue
[12:09] <kap> well it works and all
[12:09] <kap> but i cant go into monitor mode
[12:09] <thoreauputic> roho: if you are just locking and not sleeping, it probably is the screensver
[12:09] <roho> dang
[12:09] <roho> are there screenlock alternatives?
[12:10] <tovella> kap: what do you use "monitor mode" for?
[12:10] <kap> uh
[12:10] <linux_kid> kap: what do you mean moniter mode?
[12:10] <thoreauputic> roho: are you using gnome-screensaver? You can try xscreensaver instead
[12:10] <cyris> hey, can someone recommend a good gui to manage local posix user accounts?
[12:10] <kap> i use it for airodump
[12:10] <Crass178> so
[12:11] <kap> i mean
[12:11] <thoreauputic> roho: I think there's also an "xlock" program - from memory
[12:11] <frojnd>  I wanna download torrent and when it ask me what to do I do open with but I don't know which file is the program azureus: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3644/
[12:11] <roho> the old-school one
[12:11] <roho> k
[12:11] <thoreauputic> !find xlock
[12:11] <ubotu> Found: libposixlock-ruby, libposixlock-ruby1.8, xlockmore, xlockmore-gl
[12:11] <linux_kid> Crass178: what you stated isnt Family Friendly
[12:11] <Perelin> hi everybody
[12:11] <roho> is there a file types for firefox?
[12:11] <thoreauputic> hmm
[12:11] <kap> so you dont know how to go about putting in a new module for one that comes precompiles
[12:11] <roho> i want to get the same program to open for the sam files
[12:11] <roho> same*
[12:12] <bibbd> so I have hardware raid setup on a marvell chipset on board controller how do I access this in linux? I don't see any of the drives..
[12:12] <linux_kid> kap: no, sorry
[12:12] <thoreauputic> roho: xscreensaver may be "old school", but it works a lot better than gnome-screensaver :)
[12:12] <tovella> Crass178: agreed - your pornographic inquiries are not for this chat room.
[12:12] <roho> thoreauputic: i'm not knocking it!
[12:12] <Crass178> jeesh
[12:12] <videocardproblem> hello, anyone know how to install nvidia fx5200 in dell dimension 3000 with a intel extreme graphics 2?
[12:12] <Ferret> roho: Edit > Preferences > Content > File Types > Manage
[12:12] <linux_kid> Crass178: Talk to the ops in #ubuntu-ops if you need clarification
[12:12] <videocardproblem> i cant get it to load
[12:12] <Crass178> ok ok
[12:12] <LjL> videocardproblem: eeeh? so what card do you have?
[12:12] <Ferret> roho: Not sure how you add new ones... by trying to download one, I suspect
[12:13] <linux_kid> !nvidia | videocardproblem
[12:13] <ubotu> videocardproblem: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:13] <roho> Ferret: alright.  well, i want to add one then :P
[12:13] <videocardproblem> i have an intel graphics extreme 2 onboard
[12:13] <rendo> Does anyone know of any way to limit your upload speed  from sftp and ssh transfers?
[12:13] <videocardproblem> and just put in a pci fx 5200
[12:13] <LjL> videocardproblem: alright, then follow the nvidia howto. it works fine for the fx 5200, i have that card
[12:13] <videocardproblem> when i run the live cd i get an error that no device can be found
[12:13] <videocardproblem> in bios i have two options
[12:14] <videocardproblem> onboard and auto for video card
[12:14] <Perelin> im a linux n00b and just installed ubuntu, tried to search some files and it seems that the nautilus standard search doesnt look in subdirectories. can I change this?
[12:14] <linux_kid> Perelin: I have the same problem...
[12:14] <ReAspired> Hello, I haven't found this on google yet, but how does one change OS changing. does ubuntu use Lilo or Grub.
[12:15] <jrib> ReAspired: grub is default
[12:15] <po0f> videocardproblem: When you boot the live CD, you have to pass "noload=intel_agp noload=agpgart agp=off" to use the NVIDIA card IIRC.
[12:15] <videocardproblem> thank you
[12:15] <roho> i want vlc to play mpg files, NOT gxine
[12:15] <linux_kid> ReAapired: GRUB
[12:15] <jrib> !defaultapp | roho
[12:15] <ubotu> roho: To change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"
[12:15] <roho> from firefox, that is
[12:15] <ad_> did anyone get trouble trying to run wings3d on ubuntu?
[12:15] <videocardproblem> but the problem im enountering wont let me do antthing
[12:15] <roho> jrib: thank you.
[12:15] <videocardproblem> i get the error
[12:15] <roho> but that's not my problem
[12:15] <jrib> roho: then remove gxine's plugin and install vlc's
[12:15] <roho> that's it?
[12:15] <videocardproblem> i can view the error log and it closes down the system afterward
[12:15] <_KP_> my sound quit working a few days ago (maybe a week or so). I'm running 6.10. I on a Compaq Evo N1020v laptop. When I did a fresh install of 6.10 not too long ago, the sound worked perfectly. Has anyone else had problems with sound recently?
[12:15] <roho> ok, thanks again
[12:16] <spastic_teapot> Does anyone know why my wireless card shows up as eth1?
[12:16] <spastic_teapot> It's supported natively under linux - it's an intel 2100.
[12:16] <thoreauputic> spastic_teapot: mine does too - works fine
[12:16] <rendo> Does anyone know of any way to limit your upload speed  from sftp and ssh transfers?
[12:16] <po0f> spastic_teapot: Mine does too.
[12:16] <Perelin> eth1 is a standard name given by the OS
[12:16] <thoreauputic> spastic_teapot: what's th problem?
[12:16] <linux_kid> spastic_teapot: a wlan card may show up as eth* and wlan*, either or
[12:16] <Crass178> no one is helping videocardproblem
[12:16] <po0f> thoreauputic: Maybe that's his problem.  :)
[12:16] <JamesG> Is there a more advanced samba GUI config tool than the one built into Ubuntu? One where I can set more granular permissions, for example?
[12:17] <tovella> kap: though I'm not familiar with this particular module, it's is very possible that it requires special parameters (upon loading) to get this "monitor mode" working.  what i mean is that if i were you, I would do some more checking to see if re-compiling is truely necessary.  you may just have to specify that this feature be used upon loading.
[12:17] <jrib> Crass178: what video card problem?
[12:17] <pbureau> spastic_teapot, from what I gather the Intel card alwasy show as eth1... should not prevent you from using it
[12:17] <spastic_teapot> Oh, well.
[12:17] <roho> thoreauputic: xlockmore
[12:17] <LjL> jrib, me meant the nickname
[12:17] <roho> thoreauputic: that's the one, right?
[12:17] <po0f> Crass178: I offered a solution.
[12:17] <thoreauputic> Crass178: umm - several people helped videocardproblem
[12:17] <LjL> and yes
[12:17] <spastic_teapot> Wifi-Radar just makes my system lag when I try to run it.
[12:17] <jrib> LjL: oh...
[12:17] <Perelin> nobody knbow how to configure nautilus search?
[12:17] <spastic_teapot> (Note: I'm using Xubuntu).
[12:17] <thoreauputic> roho: not sure to be honest
[12:18] <linux_kid> spastic_teapot: Edgy or dapper
[12:18] <rio> im trying to determine which wiki to use for my webserver.  any suggestions?
[12:18] <jrib> Perelin: configure it to do what?
[12:18] <spastic_teapot> Edgy.
[12:18] <LjL> videocardproblem: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions <- those parameters you've been suggested to try, here it explains where they are to be typed
[12:18] <Perelin> jrib: to search in subdirectories
[12:18] <thoreauputic> spastic_teapot: wifi-radar has issues with some drivers - try Network Manager
[12:18] <spastic_teapot> Network Manager?
[12:18] <linux_kid> spastic_teapot: wifi-radar dosent work well in edgy\
[12:19] <thoreauputic> pbureau: a bit of punctuation can help, too ;p
[12:19] <spastic_teapot> I'll give it a shot.
[12:19] <po0f> thoreauputic: punctuationisoverratedasisspacing
[12:19] <pbureau> laughs
[12:19] <jrib> Perelin: it does that by default here
[12:19] <Perelin> hmm .. here not, thy anyway
[12:19] <Perelin> thx
[12:19] <ardchoille42> po0f, lol
[12:19] <jrib> Perelin: how are you testing?
[12:20] <thoreauputic> po0f: youareabsolutelyrightofcourseiagreewholeheartedly
[12:20] <ad_> what does '1> Segmentation fault (core dumped)' mean?
[12:20] <jrib> pleasestopD:
[12:20] <Perelin> jrib i have a file called FILENAME in my homedirectory and i do a search from FileSystem for FILENAME, u know what i mean?
[12:20] <thoreauputic> ad_: it means the program crashed
[12:20] <ReAspired> what would easiest way to change boot seq. some script or what. I never touched the grub
[12:20] <Crass178> is fappix a good distro?
[12:20] <_KP_> ad_: memory violation, probably overran a buffer
[12:20] <pbureau> ohpleasestopusingnospacebariamstartingtogetblurredvisionhere!
[12:20] <LjL> !offtopic | Crass178
[12:20] <ubotu> Crass178: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:20] <Perelin> jrib: the files will only get found if I do the search from the containing dir
[12:21] <ad_> thoreauputic: am i able to troubleshoot the program with this little information?
[12:21] <Crass178> !offtopic | pbureau
[12:21] <ubotu> pbureau: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:21] <po0f> Perelin: I suppose you could write a nautilus script to search sub-dirs.
[12:21] <thoreauputic> ad_: try running the program with strace
[12:22] <Crass178> i was just wondering if anyone has a dual boot with ubuntu and fappix?
[12:22] <thoreauputic> ad_: strace <command>
[12:22] <po0f> ad_: strace
[12:22] <pbureau> okay serious "noobie" question, I am messing with grep, and I am not getting the result I want, I want to grep "ethernet from lspci I have tried various way and all it spits out is ...nothing
[12:22] <LjL> Crass178, quit it.
[12:22] <Perelin> p00f: can u point me to a url with some docu on nautilus scripts?
[12:22] <po0f> thoreauputic: Doh, too slow.
[12:22] <jrib> Perelin: weird, this could be a permission problem (and bug maybe).  What if you create $HOME/foo/bar/cookie  and search for "cookie" at your $HOME?
[12:22] <JamesG> pbureau: Try grep -i
[12:22] <tonyyarusso> Crass178: No.  Change direction please as mentioned before to be appropriate for this channel.
[12:22] <Perelin> jrib: wait
[12:23] <thoreauputic> pbureau: lspci | grep -i ether
[12:23] <Dregin|PSP> Is anyone using Cedega to run steam?I've installed steam and updated it but when I go to actually run it nothing happens....
[12:23] <ad_> i got a different result but the program still won't run
[12:23] <pbureau> thank you people....
[12:23] <ad_> will i get different results when i compile from source?
[12:23] <po0f> Perelin: http://www.grumz.net/?q=taxonomy/term/10/9&PHPSESSID=3b12fd2e0437fbb3d0d13e792fdbc751
[12:23] <Perelin> jrib: i think u hit it ... i find everything when I search inside my ~
[12:23] <thoreauputic> ad_: check launchpad for bugs
[12:23] <thoreauputic> !bugs
[12:23] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[12:23] <Perelin> :poof: thx!
[12:24] <po0f> Perelin: Are you trying to find files outside of ~?  Use `locate` instead.
[12:24] <jackson3246> hey I'm running warcraft II with wine and I can't get my panels to go away when it's in fullscreen mode. any ideas?
[12:24] <cyris> hey. im running dapper and im missing alot of utilities under System->Administration, anyone know what packages im missing?
[12:24] <po0f> cyris: Which utilities?
[12:24] <TTT_Travis> can I take my hard drive with ubuntu on it and put it in another computer with different hardware?
[12:24] <TTT_Travis> or will I get driver issues?
[12:25] <NetCruZa> I splitted up my MPG file with LXSplit (HJSplit) on my computer, transfered both parst to my laptop, joined them, and now the movie can't play?
[12:25] <videocardproblem> i tried "noload=intel_agp noload=agpgart agp=off" and i still get the error code
[12:25] <Perelin> poof: but locate can only find files that were indexed by updatedb or not?
[12:25] <cyris> po0f: like the users and groups for one, and synaptic
[12:25] <roho> mpg files *still* use gxine instead of vlc
[12:25] <Perelin> and i cant start locate through gui...
[12:25] <po0f> TTT_Travis: It _should_ work, but don't expect Xorg to work without reconfiguring it.
[12:25] <dwid> how do i control volume on ubuntu, where are the volume controls
[12:25] <jrib> Perelin: yeah, nautilus' search still seems to fail on some test cases here.  I guess you'd have to look more into it, but it does recurse sometimes :P
[12:25] <roho> i don't have the gxineplugin installed
[12:25] <ReAspired> I am guessing that changing default in menu.lst (GRUB) will change what starts up first.
[12:25] <gcbirzan> I'll think about it
[12:26] <jackson3246> hey I'm running warcraft II with wine and I can't get my panels to go away when it's in fullscreen mode. any ideas?
[12:26] <jrib> dwid: there should be a speaker icon in your notification area
[12:26] <linux_kid> ReAspired: yes
[12:26] <Syco54645> how does one restart apache?
[12:26] <roho> it's with swiftfox
[12:26] <NetCruZa> I splitted up my MPG file with LXSplit (HJSplit) on my computer, transfered both parst to my laptop, joined them, and now the movie can't play?
[12:26] <TTT_Travis> TTT_Travis good, since it's a server install anyway, no Xorg
[12:26] <po0f> Syco54645: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[12:26] <TTT_Travis> wee po0f
[12:26] <Perelin> jrib: ;-) yeah, thx anyway, now i know - ill find some way
[12:26] <Syco54645> apache2 rather.  apachectl doesnt seem to be here
[12:26] <TTT_Travis> bbl
[12:26] <jackson3246> hey I'm running warcraft II with wine and I can't get my panels to go away when it's in fullscreen mode. any ideas?
[12:26] <Syco54645> po0f: thanks
[12:27] <Syco54645> bah that still didnt get cgi working
[12:27] <ad_> it is mentioned as a bug
[12:27] <dwid> how do i control volume on ubuntu, where are the volume controls
[12:27] <Popoi> Syco54645: I have the same problem with Firefox
[12:27] <jrib> Perelin: do you know if nautilus search uses beagle?
[12:27] <Syco54645> Popoi: huh?
[12:27] <po0f> dwid: I use `alsamixer`.
[12:27] <slyfox> I have a problem with automatically turn of screen after 15 minutes. Sometiems it does sometimes it does not. Any ideas why not ?
[12:27] <jackson3246> hey I'm running warcraft II with wine and I can't get my gnome-panels to go away when it's in fullscreen mode. any ideas?
[12:27] <ReAspired> linux_kid, what would happen if I put an invalid number in there.
[12:27] <Popoi> Syco54645: I just can't open Php and some CGI don't wirk
[12:27] <b08y> help, http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/7181/ , what can i do?
[12:28] <Syco54645> Popoi: that is odd
[12:28] <Popoi> Syco54645: are you talking 'bout that right :S
[12:28] <Syco54645> Popoi: i am just trying to get the server to run perl cgi right now
[12:28] <linux_kid> ReAspired: You would probebly have to reinstall linux... ( i messed it up and had to reinstall)
[12:28] <Perelin> jrib: i did some reading and it appears not to be so
[12:28] <compengi> why when i use rdesktop program and get connected to a windows pc and when i scroll down a file i will see it scrambled so that i need to minimize and maximize the screen to be able to read it
[12:28] <Popoi> Syco54645: yeah, really strange, some people on ubuntu forums have the same problem, but there is no solution
[12:28] <Popoi> Syco54645: aaah ok ^^ gl man!
[12:28] <Perelin> btw: how can i color highlight my answers to somebody?
[12:28] <cyris> po0f: any ideas?
[12:28] <chiarato> I can't get flashplayer working on my browser firefox 2.0? I followed all the instructions when I use about:plugins It does not show the plug in installed and when I go to www.youtube.com I can't watch anything?
[12:29] <Syco54645> Popoi: thanks, you too
[12:29] <jrib> chiarato: what does this command return:  'apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree'
[12:29] <jackson3246> hey I'm running warcraft II with wine and I can't get my gnome-panels to go away when it's in fullscreen mode. any ideas?
[12:29] <compengi> chiarato, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy follow this
[12:29] <itz_> I people, i'm french user of ubuntu
[12:30] <jrib> !fr | itz_
[12:30] <ubotu> itz_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:30] <Syco54645> jackson3246: i always just go into openbox to play... game will work better too
[12:30] <itz_> okay :D
[12:30] <cyris> anyone have an indea as to why im missing alot of applications under system-tools/administration ? i have the gnome-system-tools package installed
[12:30] <jackson3246> Syco54645: what's openbox?
[12:30] <chiarato> compengi: flashplugin-nonfree:
[12:30] <chiarato>   Installed: 7.0.68~ubuntu3
[12:30] <chiarato>   Candidate: 7.0.68~ubuntu3
[12:30] <chiarato>   Version table:
[12:30] <chiarato>  *** 7.0.68~ubuntu3 0
[12:30] <chiarato>         500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse Packages
[12:30] <chiarato>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[12:30] <cyris> i dont have users and groups or even synaptic
[12:30] <jrib> !paste | chiarato
[12:31] <ubotu> chiarato: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:31] <po0f> cyris: gnome-system-tools, maybe.
[12:31] <jackson3246> Sycho54645: nevermind I've found it
[12:31] <Syco54645> jackson3246: a window manager that is really light.  just right click for a terminal.  i use it all the time now
[12:31] <Nutubuntu> Hi - How would I go about installing Bluefish-unstable 1.1.2 so that it is managed through aptitude? I'm running Dapper and I don't believe 1.1.2 is in the repositories yet.
[12:31] <ReAspired> chiarato, I had this issue, if I have the link I share with u
[12:31] <lumgwada> Hi, whats ubuntus equivalent to a hosts file ie a somewhere to resolve dns addresses locally?
[12:31] <jrib> chiarato: what does this command return: readlink -f $(which firefox)
[12:31] <chiarato> ReAspired: thanks man!
[12:31] <JamesG> lumgwada: Er, /etc/hosts ?
[12:31] <lumgwada> JamesG: cheers
[12:32] <cyris> po0f: i have that installed, no idea why they are not listed under administration tho :S
[12:32] <JamesG> lumgwada: This isn't ubuntu specific.. I've never seen a Linux distro use anything but /etc/hosts :)
[12:32] <Yourmysin> hey guys, is anyone here familiar with broadcom 802.11g 4318 drivers?
[12:32] <lumgwada> JamesG: cheers got it here
[12:32] <ReAspired> chiarato, http://ubuntuforums.org/tags/index.php/flash/
[12:32] <cafuego_> Yourmysin: To a certain extent...
[12:32] <Yourmysin> bcm4318*
[12:33] <compengi> chiarato, have you updated it?
[12:33] <ReAspired> chiarato, might find something there
[12:33] <chiarato> jrib: /opt/firefox/firefox
[12:33] <cafuego_> Yourmysin: the driver is loaded but you can't do any wifi?
[12:33] <compengi> chiarato, sudo update-flashplugin
[12:33] <jrib> chiarato: that's why, you installed a local version of firefox.  So you need to install plugins in the plugin folder for the local version that you run
[12:33] <jackson3246> hey I'm running warcraft III with wine and I can't get my gnome-panels to go away when it's in fullscreen mode. any ideas?
[12:33] <dwid> how do i install rpm files?
[12:33] <Yourmysin> yes caf, i just sent you a message
[12:33] <jrib> !rpm | dwid
[12:33] <ubotu> dwid: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[12:33] <cafuego_> Yourmysin: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/dists/edgy-cafuego/bcm43xx/
[12:34] <houmalam> pprpm to deb via alien
[12:34] <ReAspired> chiarato, my suggestion is uninstall it and try again
[12:34] <cyris> po0f: with alacarte menu editor i see a bunch of items under administration, however only a few are listed when i click system-administration, weird :S
[12:34] <chiarato> compengi: Downloading...  done.
[12:34] <chiarato> automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes
[12:34] <jrib> chiarato: the package won't work
[12:34] <dwid> then how do i install adobe so i can view music on myspace
[12:35] <jrib> dwid: adobe what?
[12:35] <compengi> chiarato, if it doesn't work try sudo apt-get install mozilla-plugin-gnash and sudo apt-get install libflash-mozplugin
[12:35] <jackson3246> how do I make a window be always on top when I load it in the terminal?
[12:35] <Perelin> anyway .. thx for the help + bye
[12:35] <Yourmysin> cafuego_: I have installed the drivers with NDISwrapper, and i can scan the wifi's, but when i attempt to connect with DCHP enabled, the connection totally drops, and i need to configure my eth0 to static ipaddress for it to even be active
[12:35] <dwid> adobe flash plugin
[12:35] <jrib> !flash | dwid
[12:35] <ubotu> dwid: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:35] <ubotu> dwid: Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[12:35] <chiarato> compengi: I thought that mozilla-plugin-gnash was for 64
[12:36] <cafuego_> Yourmysin: I can't help you with ndiswrapper, I don't use it...
[12:36] <compengi> chiarato, Note: AMD64 users will not currently be able to use the Adobe Flash plugin described above and will need to attempt the following procedures.
[12:36] <MystaMax> how do i stop the keyring window from popping up everytime I reboot and reconnect to a wireless network?
[12:36] <cafuego_> Yourmysin: I use the native drivers on mine (mine are 4306 though)
[12:37] <gnuwtey> hi
[12:37] <jrib> gnuwtey: ola
[12:37] <Yourmysin> thats what i figured. 4306 drivers wont work with 4318, ive already tried :S.
[12:37] <gnuwtey> how do i get the xfs file system to work on ubuntu?
[12:37] <Nutubuntu> Hm - maybe I should ask a more general question. If I compile a package myself (e.g., Bluefish-unstable 1.1.2) and install it (sudo aptitude install ./mypackage.deb), am I right in assuming that aptitude will manage dependencies as it does for packages downloaded from repositories?
[12:37] <chiarato> compengi: this is what I got Reading state information... Done
[12:37] <chiarato> E: Couldn't find package mozilla-plugin-gnash
[12:37] <gnuwtey> i'm asking because i tried formatting it as xfs
[12:37] <gnuwtey> and i couldn't get it to mount
[12:37] <jrib> Nutubuntu: aptitude won't install local debs like that
[12:38] <jrib> chiarato: you are wasting your time with the packages, you need to take care of /opt/firefox/firefox/plugins yourself
[12:38] <slyfox> I have a problem with automatically turning off screen after 15 minutes when not in use. Sometiems it does, sometimes it does not. Any ideas why not ? Or what applications cause it.
[12:38] <po0f> Nutubuntu: How did you compile Bluefish without the dependencies?
[12:38] <LjL> Nutubuntu, you can't use aptitude or apt-get to install a local package, you must use dpkg or gdebi. gdebi will handle the dependencies - if they are available, that is
[12:38] <chiarato> jrib: how do I do that?
[12:38] <compengi> chiarato, try your youtube site
[12:38] <jrib> chiarato: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[12:39] <chiarato> jrib: edgy 6.10
[12:39] <dwid> so which one is better gpl or gnash
[12:39] <jrib> chiarato: why did you install firefox to /opt?
[12:39] <Fanskapet> anyone know where the "libmp4v2-0" package can be found?
[12:39] <HighLife> Hey when I do sudo apt-get build-dep for a certain package it says I already have it, how can I force it to download it anyway?
[12:39] <Fanskapet> i'l need to install that one in order to get bmpx to work
[12:39] <LjL> HighLife: if you have it, you have it
[12:39] <LjL> HighLife: if you really want, do a sudo apt-get --reinstall install <package>
[12:40] <jrib> dwid: what do you mean by "gpl"?
[12:40] <chiarato> compengi: this is what I get when I try to watch a video Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Macromedia's Flash Player. Get the latest flash player.
[12:40] <davidohagan> My MD5sum.txt is broken it has 5 files listed with wierd directories and 1 file has a wrong sum. Is this a known problem?
[12:40] <lev_> hi, any good onscreen keyboards?
[12:40] <LjL> !libflash-mozplugin | jrib, i suppose
[12:40] <ubotu> libflash-mozplugin: GPL Flash (SWF) Library - Mozilla-compatible plugin. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.13-8ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 13 kB, installed size 100 kB
[12:40] <SpareXX> anyone here who can help me a little with samba? win xp computer can't connect to my shares
[12:40] <chiarato> jrib: I dont know what happen!
[12:41] <HighLife> I'm trying to get the build-dep for ogmrip but it always says 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[12:41] <compengi> chiarato, and is your java plug in for mozilla installed?
[12:41] <Nutubuntu> po0f, LjL - I probably wrote that unclearly. I'd compile it myself, managing the dependencies, but was hoping that aptitude would help me out by tracking packages installed solely to support Bluefish-unstable 1.1.2, so that it could un-install them if I decided to un-install Bluefish-unstable 1.1.2
[12:41] <chiarato> jrib: how can I fix this problem
[12:41] <HighLife> I need to re-get it
[12:41] <jrib> chiarato: I'd recommend taht you remove the /opt version of firefox you have and use the one in the repositories.  That way installing flash should "just work"
[12:41] <jackson3246> how do I get wine'd programs to run in fullscreen? my gnome-panel keeps itself on top of them for some reason
[12:41] <HighLife> So that I can reinstall it
[12:41] <linux_kid> SpareXX: samaba, what are the details (like what directory are you sharing?)
[12:41] <gnuwtey> i'll ask again, how do I get the xfs file system to work on ubuntu?
[12:41] <chiarato> jrib: how do I remove firefox from /opt?
[12:41] <gnuwtey> can someone PLEASE answer?
[12:41] <jrib> chiarato: do you recall following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion at some point in the past?  Or running a script of some kind to install firefox2.0 before edgy?
[12:42] <SpareXX> linux_kid, some folders on my ntfs disks
[12:42] <jackson3246> how do I get wine'd programs to run in fullscreen? my gnome-panel keeps itself on top of them for some reason. this ONLY happens in beryl. it works in metacity
[12:42] <LjL> Nutubuntu, well, not quite, because if you make a package but do *not* put it in a repository, you can't use APT to install it, so there will be no way for APT to track which packages were installed as dependencies
[12:42] <chiarato> jrib: I think I've used a script that I downloaded from the net somewhere!
[12:42] <SpareXX> linux_kid, i can connect to my shares with my xbox running XBMC but i can't get into with win xp
[12:43] <linux_kid> OK, thats odd
[12:43] <LjL> Nutubuntu: you can, however, install it using dpkg or gdebi, and if the dependencies are listed correctly, you can do a manual "sudo aptitude markauto list-of-all-the-dependencies" to mark them as automatically installed, so that they will be removed when you remove that package
[12:43] <linux_kid> SpareXX: what is the workgroup on your XP machine?
[12:43] <jrib> chiarato: please tell me the output of this command:  dpkg-divert --list '*firefox*'
[12:44] <SpareXX> linux_kid, it is the same as my linux box
[12:44] <netdur> do you anyone knows where to get newest UPS (ubuntu system panel)?
[12:44] <LjL> Nutubuntu: *perhaps* using gdebi will even track the dependencies automatically through APT, i don't precisely know how gdebi works. that will only be useful if you have Edgy though, of course, since Dapper doesn't have auto-installed-packages-tracking outside of aptitude
[12:44] <jrib> netdur: I think there is a thread in the forums dedicated to it, you should eb able tog et some info there
[12:44] <linux_kid> SpareXX: OK, does the machine (on XP) show up in "workgroup computers?
[12:44] <chiarato> jrib: local diversion of /usr/bin/firefox to /usr/bin/firefox.ubuntu
[12:44] <chiarato> local diversion of /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox to /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox.ubuntu
[12:45] <Nutubuntu> LjL - thank you ... I'm running Dapper and trying to wean myself from Synaptic to aptitiude. I'll do some reading on the "markauto" aptitude command; I don't know much about aptitude at all. Yet. :)
[12:45] <netdur> jrib, I found it but it seems not newest version... see this http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=2&id=52386&file1=52386-1.jpg&file2=52386-2.png&file3=52386-3.png&name=Adonis
[12:45] <SpareXX> linux_kid, i don't know right at this time, as my sister just went to sleep, she has the computer in her room
[12:45] <jrib> chiarato: sudo rm /usr/bin/{mozilla-,}firefox && sudo dpkg-divert --rename --remove /usr/bin/firefox && sudo dpkg-divert --rename --remove /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox
[12:45] <icebird_> I have mounted a truecrypt volume (hard disk) but under its file permissions it owner is root.  How would I change that user
[12:46] <[Hyarion] > Hm, has anyone else had issues with Edgy constantly freezing up? The only thing I can do is press the restart button, it happens a couple times a day too.
[12:46] <linux_kid> SpareXX: hmm...
[12:46] <LjL> Nutubuntu, well, you know that aptitude adds auto-dependency tracking right? that is, it knows which packages were installed automatically and which manually, so if an automatically-installed package isn't needed anymore, it will remove it
[12:46] <houmalam> no freeze ever
[12:46] <Nutubuntu> LjL - yes - that's the exact reason why I am trying to train myself to prefer aptitude
[12:46] <davidohagan> Can someone help me with some CD problems I'm having, specifically verifying the CD?
[12:46] <pbureau> is there a command to see what modules modprobe has currently selected for my network card ?
[12:46] <LjL> Nutubuntu: "markauto" and "unmarkauto" are simply the aptitude commands that let you change its vision of this manually. if you markauto a package, aptitude will believe that package to have been installed automatically, and vice versa
[12:47] <gnuwtey> jrib, when you have the time, can you answer my question about getting xfs to work?
[12:47] <LjL> Nutubuntu: note that Edgy adds a feature similar to this of aptitude, but in the whole APT system
[12:47] <jrib> gnuwtey: how did you try to mount it?  It just works for me
[12:47] <icebird_> hmm hold on
[12:47] <gnuwtey> well, umm...
[12:47] <linux_kid> SpareXX: Samba has trouble with workgroup names other than MSHOME so mabye you could make all the machines MSHOME?
[12:47] <gnuwtey> i formatted it
[12:47] <NetCruZa> Every time i split a file, and join it again it gets corrupted :(
[12:47] <gnuwtey> on the livecd
[12:47] <Nutubuntu> LjL - that seems like a *very*  useful feature to add. I'm thinking of a new box, and Edgy is what I figure to run on it. Now there's one more reason :)
[12:47] <gnuwtey> then i rebooted into the hard disk
[12:48] <gnuwtey> and tried mounting it
[12:48] <gnuwtey> or so i remember
[12:48] <chiarato> jrib: ok It says it removed it!
[12:48] <gnuwtey> how am i supposed to do it?
[12:48] <jrib> gnuwtey: try to write everything on a single line, it's easier to follow that way
[12:48] <icebird_> truecrypt -u /dev/hda2 /mnt/tc
[12:48] <Surghi> hi
[12:48] <gnuwtey> oh
[12:48] <Surghi> I need help please
[12:48] <gnuwtey> i didn't use the terminal
[12:48] <gnuwtey> what is the command i'm supposed to use?
[12:48] <jrib> chiarato: ok, close all firefox windows.  Then type 'firefox'.  Check if your flash works
[12:48] <LjL> Nutubuntu: on the other hand i've had a feeling that aptitude's implementation works better... Edgy's autoremove behaved strangely for me at times. though perhaps it's just "smarter" and i didn't get the smartness ;)
[12:48] <pbureau> Surghi, ask away man someone will answer eventually
[12:48] <Surghi> when I burn a Music-CD ... how can I get a cd-bruning-program to save the current tracklist to a textfile?
[12:49] <LjL> Nutubuntu: aptitude has other interesting features, at any rate, and is certainly a nice enough APT frontend (except for the graphical interface, which *bleah*, but that's just me anyway ;)
[12:49] <Surghi> at the moment I burn the CD's in k3b and I must type the titles by hand
[12:49] <Surghi> I would like to get an option to save them as textfile so I can print them
[12:49] <jrib> gnuwtey: sudo mkdir /media/MOUNTPOINT && sudo mount -t xfs /dev/FOOBAR /media/MOUNTPOINT
[12:49] <SpareXX> linux_kid, do you know a way to fix so i can hear sound in more than one program at the time? I've tried to install the alsa codec, but it didnt help(do i have to reboot after install it?)
[12:49] <gnuwtey> ok
[12:49] <gnuwtey> thanks
[12:49] <gnuwtey> i'll try it
[12:50] <gnuwtey> and ring in again if it doesn't work
[12:50] <gnuwtey> bye
[12:50] <tripolarted> I was wondering if someone could give me some help setting up a VNC connection for a windows box to connect to my ubuntu one
[12:50] <lmmars> hey guys, I have a problem installing Ubuntu.  the install doesn't detect my harddrive (I'm booting from CD).  it is a western digital model WD2000JS.  Any suggestions?  PLZ
[12:50] <chiarato> jrib: dam! man you're the best !!!!!!
[12:50] <linux_kid> SpareXX: try the reboot.  I never had that problem, so the reboot should do it.
[12:50] <chiarato> jrib: thank you so much!
[12:50] <LjL> Ubotu, tell tripolarted about vnc | tripolarted, see the private message from Ubotu
[12:50] <jrib> chiarato: ok, two things:  1) you have flash7 and may want to upgrade to flash9  2) you can now safely delete /opt/firefox to free up some space
[12:50] <SpareXX> linux_kid, ok, brb then :P
[12:50] <chiarato> jrib: how did you know all that?
[12:51] <boci^> hi
[12:51] <Nutubuntu> LjL - thank you once again :)
[12:51] <newbie> HI
[12:51] <jrib> chiarato: I troubleshooted a similar issue before :)
[12:51] <newbie> 
[12:51] <boci^> how can I install libapache2-mod-mono in edgy?
[12:51] <icebird_> I have mounted a truecrypt volume (hard disk) but under its file permissions it's owner is root.  How would I change that to user?
[12:51] <newbie> WOWIOI
[12:51] <LjL> !info libapache2-mod-mono
[12:51] <ubotu> libapache2-mod-mono: Run ASP.NET Pages on UNIX with Apache 2 and Mono. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.13-1 (edgy), package size 29 kB, installed size 136 kB
[12:51] <pbureau> boci^, apt-get ?
[12:51] <boci^> nope
[12:51] <LjL> boci^: sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-mono
[12:51] <davidohagan> Why does my MD5sums.txt on the CD not have the correct information in it(like moved files and wrong sums)?
[12:51] <boci^> not work
[12:51] <LjL> boci^: elaborate
[12:52] <Namtaru> any network gurus who can help me out? i selected a folder to share, shared it as NFS, now i want to switch it to samba, however every time i try switching it stays set to NFS when i check it again
[12:52] <chiarato> jrib: is the command sudo rm -r-f /opt/firefox ???
[12:52] <lmmars> I'd try to write the HD parameters on boot, but the specifications only supply the number of physical heads and sectors.  no cylinders.  and the sectors is a ridiculous number
[12:52] <NetCruZa> I have a problem: When i set up a password on one of my ubuntu computers, then it is no problem to connect to it. But after both computers have been turned off, it keeps saying the password is wrong... If i then change it and connects again, it works until next time
[12:52] <tripolarted> LjL: Thanks
[12:52] <boci^> LjL, pbureau : http://rafb.net/p/rvXGjJ93.html
[12:53] <lmmars> can someone please help me with hard drive detection?
[12:53] <Namtaru> all ive done is right click and select share options, it let me select nfs but wont let me switch it now that its set
[12:53] <NetCruZa> I mean VNC password (Remote Desktop)
[12:53] <boci^> I think the mono-apache-server is upgraded to mono version but the apache module not...
[12:54] <LjL> boci^, you need to install either of mono-apache-server or mono-apache-server2 manually -- that is because libapache2-mod-mono can use *either* of them, so it can't decide which one it "prefers" for you
[12:54] <Aggrav8d> does 6.10 apache come with cgi already configured?  I can't seem to get any cgi to run.
[12:54] <boci^> ok
[12:54] <LjL> boci^: i would guess that your choice would depend on which version of apache you have installed
[12:54] <boci^> LjL: ok, moment , I install it
[12:55] <jrib> chiarato: sudo rm -rf /opt/firefox   should do it.  Double check for errors before pressing enter
[12:55] <SpareXX> linux_kid, it didnt help :/
[12:55] <NetCruZa> I have a problem: When i set up a password on one of my ubuntu computers, then it is no problem to connect to it. But after both computers have been turned off, it keeps saying the password is wrong... If i then change it and connects again, it works until next time
[12:55] <boci^> LjL: http://rafb.net/p/HmETRr73.html
[12:55] <NetCruZa> I mean VNC password (Remote Desktop)
[12:55] <boci^> intalled mono-apache-server2
[12:55] <linux_kid> SpareXX thats not good
[12:56] <boci^> this is the new message...
[12:57] <spuddogg> Does anyone know if Ubuntu plans to start supporting RAID any time soon?
[12:57] <boci^> LjL: http://rafb.net/p/9pvX0j13.html
[12:57] <icebird_> How do you change file permissions for a volume that root owns
[12:57] <LjL> boci^: hm, i overlooked something, specifically the "<<" dependencies. not something i've encountered often...
[12:57] <jrib> icebird_: use sudo
[12:58] <pbureau> NetCruZa, give it a few minutes between repeats please, let people finish helping before they can takle your perticular problem thanks
[12:58] <icebird_> what command would you use to actually change the permissions
[12:58] <NetCruZa> pbureau: Okay, sorry
[12:58] <jrib> icebird_: what are you actually trying to change?
[12:58] <chiarato> jrib: those commands that you gave me where did you learn them?
[12:58] <icebird_> i want every one to be able to read right and execute from this drive
[12:58] <boci^> LjL: any idea?
[12:58] <killaz> guys I just realized that 1Gb of space I mounted as swap dissapeared.. I dont have swap in my System Monitor anymore
[12:58] <linux_kid> icebird_ login as root and change them
[12:59] <jrib> chiarato: the FirefoxNewVersion wiki page mentions them
[12:59] <pbureau> killaz,  swap on ?
[12:59] <icebird_> it says the volume is read only when i do this
[12:59] <nulix> hello ; i ma in trouble after trying to text a package from festy into Edgy ; I want to go back but do not know how to do this with command lines
[12:59] <icebird_> how ever on a windows (ugghh) it works just fine
[12:59] <killaz> hey pbureau, yes the swap just vanished.....
[12:59] <icebird_> it is an external hard drive that is encrypted with truecrypt
[12:59] <RudyValencia> I have an HP SK-2560 keyboard. I want to be able to use its extra keys (like for media playback and others).
[12:59] <killaz> swap on?
[12:59] <RudyValencia> How do I do that?
[12:59] <killaz> what do you mean?
[12:59] <linux_kid> icebird_ it may be mounted read only, what is the FS
[01:00] <pbureau> killaz, whats partition is your swap supposed to be on ? hdxx?
[01:00] <icebird_> sorry what does NTFS
[01:00] <killaz> I have 1 HD
[01:00] <icebird_> i meant to type it is NTFS
[01:00] <chiarato> jrib: sorry bro one more question how do I update to flashplayer 9 now?
[01:00] <killaz> sda6
[01:00] <boci^> LjL: I think libapache2-mod-mono require 1.1.14 or earlier ???
[01:00] <pbureau> killaz, so? what partition is it mounted on your 1 hdd ?
[01:00] <jrib> !flash9 | chiarato
[01:00] <ubotu> chiarato: Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[01:00] <linux_kid> icebird_ : you need ntfs_3g to edit NTFS drives
[01:01] <LjL> boci^: that would normally be "<=" though, not "<<"
[01:01] <boci^> Hmm
[01:01] <icebird_> what does that mean
[01:01] <icebird_> 3g
[01:01] <boci^> LjL: ok but how can I solve this?
[01:01] <linux_kid> icebird_ http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[01:01] <killaz> 1 HDD is partitioned in 3 primary and 1 extended. The extended is partitioned in 2 (ext, and swap)
[01:01] <LjL> boci^: if i knew i'd have told you, i'm kind of baffled
[01:01] <killaz> ext = ext3
[01:01] <linux_kid> icebird_ thrid generation
[01:02] <boci^> thnx :|
[01:02] <Aggrav8d> i'm using the default apache config and i've copied cgi files to /usr/lib/cgi-bin but when i try to run them from my site it comes up as a 404.  any ideas why?
[01:02] <chiarato> !flash 9
[01:02] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[01:02] <pbureau> killaz, okay what are the , hdxx partitions names for each ?
[01:02] <icebird_> if i said it is a new hard drive and i recently formated it would that mean it is most likely NTFS_3g
[01:02] <jrib> chiarato: if you want a good reference doc: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html
[01:02] <DemisM> do any of you guys know how to ssh tunnel?
[01:03] <SpareXX> linux_kid, do you think it has something with soundcard? Maybe it's not supported good in ubuntu or something
[01:03] <linux_kid> icebird_ : NTFS4.0 is the FS.  ntfs_3g is a linux driver for NTFS drives
[01:03] <icebird_> I see
[01:03] <killaz> sda1 -> /media/sda1  sda2->/media/sda2 (windows) sda3 -> /share, sda5 -> / sda6 -> /swap
[01:03] <jackson3246> why would I be able to host Warcraft III games (in wine) in Dapper but not in Edgy?
[01:03] <linux_kid> SpareXX: support or card... I would say support is it works in windozes
[01:03] <Cryoniq> You guys heard Linux Foundation offer hardware companies to do Linux drivers for them for free? =)
[01:04] <icebird_> Do you believe the NTFS_3g driver to be stable enough to use on your information
[01:04] <killaz> sda4 is the logical
[01:04] <SpareXX> linux_kid, yeah, it works great in windows
[01:04] <linux_kid> icebird_ I use it
[01:04] <icebird_> ok
[01:04] <spuddogg> *FRUSTRATED* Can someone here please help me with setting up a software raid?
[01:04] <LjL> !raid
[01:04] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[01:04] <icebird_> i will look into it thank you for your time
[01:04] <linux_kid> SpareXX then its support, try the forums..
[01:04] <FantasticFoo> does anyone know how to disable the annoying "flashing" of minimized windows in the window list of the gnome panel when a program wants your attention?
[01:05] <FantasticFoo> like when i have gaim minimized and somebody tries to talk to me it starts flashing
[01:05] <killaz> I guess I can repartition it. But still that is not a good thing: losing a /swap just like that
[01:05] <Surghi> Is there any Music-CD-Burning program available which lets me save the current collection of songs to a textfile which can be printed so I get a nice cover with the index of all songs for my CD ?
[01:05] <Cryoniq> Anyone know a better file browser/manager and can recomend it, than the one coming with Ubuntu 6.10?
[01:05] <jackson3246> Cryoniq: you could try Thunar
[01:05] <pbureau> killaz, sudo mount /dev/sda6 /<swapmountpoint>
[01:05] <Cryoniq> =)
[01:06] <jrib> chiarato: what are you looking for?  (what do you feel is lacking?)
[01:06] <jrib> er, I mean Cryoniq ^
[01:06] <killaz> mount point doesnt exist
[01:06] <pbureau> killaz,  look into your fstab for proper mount point of swap
[01:06] <pbureau> killaz, located in /ect/fstab
[01:06] <chiarato> jrib: the command to update the flash player
[01:07] <jrib> chiarato: you need to enable edgy-backports, then just upgrade the flashplugin-nonfree package
[01:07] <killaz> # /dev/sda6 -- converted during upgrade to edgy
[01:07] <pbureau> I just was at the flash web site they installed flash 7
[01:07] <jrib> !backports | chiarato
[01:07] <ubotu> chiarato: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[01:07] <killaz> Oo
[01:07] <killaz> the upgrade to edgy did this
[01:08] <gansinho> does anyone here knows some info about the project to do mac-style menu bar for gnome ? " http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241868&highlight=murrina "
[01:08] <killaz> UUID=2d1f2174-53a4-4030-83da-d5c3d118b3ba none swap sw 0 0
[01:08] <Cryoniq> jrib I guess I am lacking (dont hit me please now) the structure tree and drag and drop files easy around without using cut and paste moving files :)
[01:08] <killaz> that is what I see below the /dev/sda6 line
[01:08] <LjL> what does "<<" followed by a version number mean for Depends lines of packages?
[01:08] <Cryoniq> (it does sound awfully like a certain windows file manager, I know *hides*)
[01:08] <Aggrav8d> i'm using the default apache config and i've copied cgi files to /usr/lib/cgi-bin but when i try to run them from my site it comes up as a 404.  any ideas why?
[01:08] <jrib> Cryoniq: maybe try gnome-commander
[01:08] <Gabby_Hayes> Howdy
[01:09] <Cryoniq> jrib ah :)
[01:09] <pbureau> killaz, guess you got your answer then :)
[01:09] <Cryoniq> he he like the description of it.. nice and fast file manager ... :)
[01:10] <mattik> Hello, I'm using breezy in vmplayer, how can I get finnish keyboard to console mode?
[01:10] <Rug> Is there anyway to change the default term that opens on Konq from konsole to xterm?
[01:11] <GMachine_24> hi - what program can i use to copy an entire DVD? I have gnomebaker but that doesn't seem to do it - it will just burn an .iso file to a DVD. This must be a Linux prog; no Windows junk please.
[01:11] <spuddogg> *FRUSTRATED* Can someone here please help me with setting up a software raid?
[01:11] <GMachine_24> spud: you mean raid hard drives?
[01:12] <Cryoniq> I really love how linux developed. I laid my hands on Slakware first time around 1996/1997.. it is looking very good for Linux community :)
[01:12] <spuddogg> GMachine_24, yes...I have 2 250GB drives with NTFS that I need to access from Ubuntu
[01:12] <killaz> so the UUID is not going ok
[01:12] <killaz> why are they doing this?
[01:12] <davidohagan> Is the MD5sum.txt file on the Alternate CD supposed to have problems with it?
[01:12] <killaz> chaning the /etc/fstab?
[01:13] <wolfwalker> Okay, I just installed Fedora, but Gparted does not recognize the partition format Fedora uses. Can someone recommend a good partitioner?
[01:13] <GMachine_24> spud: the easiest thing to do is get a RAID/SCSI PCI card......and plug your NTFS drives into that via ribbon cable. The drives will be automatically recognized.
[01:13] <killaz> pbureau:  so I can just remove the UUID's and put back the /dev/sda6 then
[01:13] <GMachine_24> spud: the cards are way cheap, about $13
[01:13] <roniez> I am trying to configure desklist for kopete, but when i do ./configure it freezes at "checking wheter uic suppors -L anybody know how i can install uic again? to fix this?
[01:14] <Cryoniq> woooha! thats what I call a file manager :P
[01:14] <GMachine_24> wolf: are you talkling about QTParted?
[01:14] <Cryoniq> Norton commanders spirit still lives on ^^
[01:14] <wolfwalker> Well, Gparted. I thought they were the same thing.
[01:14] <killaz> anyone in here knows why they decided that the /etc/fstab should change?
[01:14] <GMachine_24> talking even
[01:14] <killaz> cause its not making sense to me
[01:15] <GMachine_24> wolf: I use QTParted w/ Ubuntu Hoary. Works fine.
[01:15] <wolfwalker> It works on Red Hat Fedora partitions?
[01:15] <GMachine_24> anyone, please, copying a DVD?
[01:15] <wolfwalker> Thanks
[01:15] <boci^> LjL: where can I report this?
[01:15] <GMachine_24> wolf: I think you can just apt-get install qtparted
[01:16] <RudyValencia> !vmware
[01:16] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[01:16] <wolfwalker> I want it on an iso cd
[01:16] <wolfwalker> The Gparted disk is very, very, VERY handy!
[01:16] <jbjuly> Help, I have a problem with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, it doesn't autodetect any videocard, it only use the previous choice of videocard even if I delete the xorg.conf file, anyone knows how to solve this?
[01:16] <spuddogg> GMachine_24, the only problem with that is a true hardware card is $300+  For that much money I could just go buy a single 500GB drive to replace what I have
[01:16] <wolfwalker> Don't have to run Ubuntu from the live cd to use it :D
[01:17] <GMachine_24> spuddogg: I have two extra hard drives connected to a Fedora FC4 box via a PCI SCSI/RAID card that cost me $13.
[01:17] <GMachine_24> spuddogg: they work great. never a hiccup
[01:17] <spuddogg> GMachine_24, and you have them set up with RAID-0/1?
[01:18] <wolfwalker> Hey! You can't run QTParted from an iso cd?!
[01:18] <wolfwalker> No fair!
[01:18] <LjL> Ubotu, tell boci^ about bugs | boci^, see the private message from Ubotu
[01:18] <GMachine_24> wolfwalker: well, what did you expect.
[01:18] <boci^> ok
[01:18] <boci^> thnx
[01:18] <NetCruZa> I have a problem: When i set up a password on one of my ubuntu computers, then it is no problem to connect to it. But after both computers have been turned off, it keeps saying the password is wrong... If i then change it and connects again, it works until next time
[01:18] <NetCruZa> I mean VNC password (Remote Desktop)
[01:18] <LjL> boci^: though to say with some confidence that it's a bug, i'd really need to know what the heck "<<" means exactly, and i don't seem to find that information
[01:18] <wolfwalker> |GMachine_24:| Well GParted came as an iso file
[01:18] <GMachine_24> spuddogg: they are set up as raid drives just generic so each one is recognized separately
[01:18] <Cryoniq> Hmm.. I have an external drive case with network connection, with a built in samba server in it (among things), how/where do I configure so that workgroup etc are set correctly and found?
[01:18] <wolfwalker> Which was tres cool
[01:19] <Aggrav8d> default apache setup in ubuntu 6.10 aliases a folder /cgi-bin/ to /usr/lib/cgi-bin/.  when I try to write a page that says <a href="/cgi-bin/myscript.cgi">link</a> and click the link it returns 404.  file_exists("/cgi-bin/myscript.cgi"); also returns 0.  I checked permissions on the file and the folder.  what did i miss?
[01:19] <GMachine_24> so d/l qtparted and copy it on a cd
[01:19] <mon^rch> can someone help me with a loki installer, I am installing doom3 and it asks me to mount the cd and it is already mounted
[01:19] <patbam> hi, how can i restart scim?
[01:19] <wolfwalker> I guess I could load Kubuntu and run from it
[01:19] <wolfwalker> Phooey
[01:19] <ExM3th1x> could somebody tell me how to change the priority from a running process with the shell?
[01:19] <Aggrav8d> patbam - sudo /etc/init.d/scim restart?
[01:20] <LjL> ExM3th1x: man renice
[01:20] <aidan> someone tell me whaere to get automatrix for 5.10
[01:20] <LjL> !automatix | aidan
[01:20] <ubotu> aidan: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:20] <Vuen> hey guys, i've got a bunch of files named .txt, i'd like to strip off the file extension. how would i do that in bash?
[01:20] <patbam> Aggrav8d: no
[01:20] <Vuen> named something.txt i mean
[01:20] <Cryoniq> hmm.. maybe there is a nice program offering a nice admin UI for samba client config though. Was years since I configured samba
[01:20] <Aggrav8d> patbam - sorry.
[01:20] <LjL> Vuen: man rename
[01:20] <patbam> Aggrav8d:  sokay, thanks for trying : ] 
[01:20] <Vuen> hahaha wow, the first example on the man page is exactly what i want to do. thanks LjL :)
[01:21] <GMachine_24> vuen: yeah copy them with a new name or rename them
[01:21] <aidan> need help with gstream
[01:21] <LjL> Vuen: i know, i don't just throw man pages around randomly ;-P
[01:21] <GMachine_24> -i'm out-
[01:22] <pbureau> Cryoniq, hehe I still have a set of floppies of Slackware 1.0 somewhere
[01:22] <Vuen> LjL: worked beautifully, thanks. that was surprisingly painless.
[01:22] <dwid> is there a soulseek for ubuntu?
[01:22] <Cryoniq> =)
[01:22] <LjL> !nicotine | dwid
[01:22] <ubotu> nicotine: graphical client for the SoulSeek peer-to-peer system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4.1-1 (edgy), package size 373 kB, installed size 1956 kB
[01:22] <pbureau> dwid, check at http://www.freshmeat.net/
[01:22] <LjL> Vuen: it's a useful command yeah, though not a very standard one
[01:23] <Gabby_Hayes> pbureau  .. I still have all the discs and manuals for M$ DOS 1.3
[01:23] <ExM3th1x> LjL, thank you!
[01:23] <LjL> pbureau: why when we have APT? ;)
[01:23] <aidan> what should i use insted of automatix?
[01:23] <LjL> aidan: depends. what do you expect automatix to do for you?
[01:23] <pbureau> Gabby_Hayes,  I still have the CPM v3.0 12" floppies and manuals :))
[01:23] <Gabby_Hayes> :-)
[01:23] <Vuen> okay, i'm looking for something a bit more complex now. anyone know of any command-line utility that can modify the id3 tags on an mp3 file?
[01:23] <Cryoniq> Hmm found xubuntu-system-tools.. but.. when I marked it it informed me that it want to remove gnome-system-tools and ubuntu-desktop.. that sounds like a bad move removing those...
[01:24] <chiarato> jrib: what if I download adobe flash 9 and follow the instructions on how to install it will that work?
[01:24] <pbureau> LjL, its ageek thing... sentimental... I actually PAID for slackware 1.0 and later for version 7...
[01:24] <jrib> chiarato: you can download the deb and double click on it if you want
[01:24] <LjL> Vuen: there are several... what do you want to do, batch stuff based on the filename, or just manual editing file by file...?
[01:24] <aidan> umm well i got told to use it for my audio need s by a guy on ubuntu help forum
[01:25] <pbureau> Gabby_Hayes, not to mention TRS-80 DOS v1, v2 and v2.2 on 8" floppies (ohh 360k on a disk.. wow!)
[01:25] <Vuen> LjL: i'll be writing a script that will change the genre tag to name of the directory they're in. that will be relatively trivial, i already know how to do that. i just need a utility that can do the tagging
[01:25] <aftaylor2> On the xcdroast-ProDVD site it says you no longer need a key to burn DVDs. I have the newest version of ProDVD and xcdroast installed. But it keeps asking for a ProDVD Key. Does anyone know where I can find one ?
[01:25] <chiarato> jrib: I don't think there is a .deb only rpm and tgz
[01:25] <jrib> chiarato: download it from the ubuntu repos if you want.  but why don't you just enable edgy-backports?
[01:26] <LjL> vuen, i think i can recommend eyed3.
[01:26] <aidan> Ljl: i need to install some kind of gstream package for mp3 player
[01:26] <kireno> HI
[01:26] <LjL> vuen, another is easytag
[01:26] <pbureau> aidan using gnome ?
[01:26] <kireno> help me please
[01:26] <LjL> Ubotu, tell aidan about mp3 | aidan, see the private message from Ubotu
[01:26] <chiarato> jrib: I did
[01:26] <kireno> i need to crack my friend's ubuntu
[01:26] <pbureau> kireno, ask your question
[01:26] <kireno> how can i do this?
[01:26] <pbureau> laughs
[01:26] <LjL> aidan: that page gives a long command line to use for getting MP3 support as well as support for other codecs.
[01:26] <jrib> chiarato: ok, and what does   apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree   say now/
[01:27] <pbureau> lights a smoke an watches the replies
[01:27] <LjL> kireno: by asking somewhere else
[01:27] <davidohagan> I have a problem with installing ubuntu and I think it may be because of a problem with my CD, can anyone tell me why I have gotten the same 6 errors when trying to verify the 10 cds I have burned?
[01:27] <kireno> LjL dumaesh ti umnijnah?
[01:27] <aftaylor2> On the xcdroast-ProDVD site it says you no longer need a key to burn DVDs. I have the newest version of ProDVD and xcdroast installed. But it keeps asking for a ProDVD Key. Does anyone know where I can find one ?
[01:27] <LjL> kireno, sorry?
[01:27] <kireno> LjL sri!
[01:27] <aidan> pbureau: yes i think so got ubuntu 5.10 installed and what the task manager
[01:27] <frogzoo> kireno: offtopic
[01:27] <pbureau> davidohagan, cheap cd's? bad cdrom player, crappy software..
[01:28] <kireno> frogzoo ok ok.
[01:28] <LjL> kireno, try to make sense please
[01:28] <mon^rch> is anyone playing doom 3 on linux?
[01:28] <Vuen> mon^rch: hold on
[01:28] <kireno> i play doom 3 in my dreams )))))))
[01:28] <chiarato> jrib: flashplugin-nonfree:
[01:28] <jbjuly> Hello, I have a problem with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, it doesn't autodetect any videocard, it only use the previous choice of videocard even if I delete the xorg.conf file, anyone knows how to solve this?
[01:28] <chiarato>   Installed: 7.0.68~ubuntu3
[01:28] <chiarato>   Candidate: 7.0.68~ubuntu3
[01:28] <chiarato>   Version table:
[01:28] <chiarato>  *** 7.0.68~ubuntu3 0
[01:28] <chiarato> 
[01:28] <Vuen> mon^rch: bookmark this: http://liflg.org/
[01:28] <bazodee> hello
[01:28] <pbureau> there is a Doom 3 on linux... ohhhhh (need to check out)
[01:28] <LjL> Ubotu, tell chiarato about paste | chiarato, see the private message from Ubotu
[01:28] <Vuen> mon^rch: click downloads, then click native, then click doom 3
[01:28] <chiarato> jrib: ttp://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse Packages
[01:28] <chiarato>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[01:29] <jrib> !paste | chiarato
[01:29] <ubotu> chiarato: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:29] <jrib> chiarato: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:29] <Surghi> What is the default burning program for GNOME ?
[01:29] <Surghi> I guess its not k3b =
[01:29] <Vuen> Surghi: gnome-baker
[01:29] <Surghi> thx
[01:29] <Vuen> Surghi: i highly recommend getting k3b though even if you use gnome. k3b is so incredibly sexy
[01:29] <davidohagan> pbureau, It could be the cds i've ruled out the other possibilities(I have two computers), but I get perfect burns for the Live CD and the alternate CD always has the same problem
[01:30] <Surghi> Vuen, k3b cannot do for me  what I really really need
[01:30] <Surghi> Vuen, I need to burn many audio cd's and k3b cannot save the titles to a textfile so I can print them
[01:30] <Vuen> Surghi: really? what do you need it to do? if its missing an important feature, you can let the devs know
[01:30] <killaz> pbureau: nah that didnt help
[01:30] <Vuen> Surghi: ah.
[01:31] <Surghi> Vuen, aptitude search gnome-baker    gives me no results
[01:31] <aidan> pbureau: see chat list
[01:31] <Surghi> Vuen, any ideas?
[01:31] <pbureau> davidohagan,  I would get another download of the cd
[01:31] <killaz> changing to /dev/sda6 didnt give me back my swap
[01:31] <Vuen> Surghi: it's gnomebaker, not gnome-baker
[01:31] <killaz> do you think my HD is faulty....?
[01:31] <davidohagan> I've done that downloaded from Wisconsin, Utah, and Portland Universitys.
[01:32] <Surghi> Thank you Vuen
[01:32] <Surghi> I will see if gnomebaker can print covers
[01:32] <chiarato> jrib: here you go man! http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3651/
[01:33] <pbureau> killaz, if it was commented out of fstab ie has a '#' in front of that line... I would be very carefull before re-instated it in (ie removing the '#' from fstab)
[01:33] <nulix> I want to remove ttf-dustin but there is an error how to force removal of this package thanks
[01:33] <pbureau> killaz, if you upgraded from 6.06 to 6.10 and the process did this, they did it for a reason. which I have no idea..
[01:34] <pbureau> killaz, but doubt because of faulty drive..
[01:34] <Vuen> hey guys, when exactly does konqueror figure out what filetype a text file is? i've got a bunch of text files and it thinks some of them are emails; i've removed the formatting that would confuse it but refreshing the window doesn't help. does it only decide this when i mount the partition?
[01:35] <jrib> chiarato: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list      uncomment lines 18,19,28 and 29
[01:35] <mefisto> hi guys
[01:35] <killaz> pbureau: but then the question is why is my swap not mounting.... :-S
[01:35] <mefisto> ups .. wrong distro
[01:35] <killaz> very strange thing
[01:35] <pbureau> killaz, by the looks of fstab maybe the update changed the sda6 to somethignn else, was there another /swap mounted perhaps you mised in your fstab ?
[01:36] <dwid> okay i dled nicotine now what to do with this tar file
[01:36] <fbc> is there anyway of resetting the package manager? some file or directory that I can delete? "sudo dpkg install -f" fails to fix the problem.
[01:36] <tom47> davidohagan its possible to verify the iso you have downloaded (ie before you burn it)
[01:36] <beef> fbc: tried sudo apt-get remove ?
[01:36] <jriffle> if i have a usb key boot from the bios is it /dev/sda or /dev/sdb? , normally my internal drive is /dev/sda and the usbkey is /dev/sdb
[01:36] <fbc> beef:  nope.. Il try it..
[01:37] <LjL> !pm | aidan
[01:37] <ubotu> aidan: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[01:37] <Dante123> hi all.....I'm an elementary school teacher and at work we have a SmartBoard...that works fine with our windows laptops.  I have ubuntu on my laptop and I have downloaded the SmartBoard software.....however....I can't seem to get it to detect the board.....hooked up via laptop USB to Serial port on Smartboard.  Has anyone here had experience getting ubuntu to work with a Smartboard (interactive whiteboard)
[01:37] <aidan> ok sry new to this
[01:38] <dwid> how do i install nicotine once i dled it
[01:38] <aidan> gst-plugin0.8.8 help
[01:38] <beef> dwid: in terminal just do sudo apt-get install nicotine
[01:38] <illriginal> http://pastebin.ca/334866
[01:38] <benj> im tying to mv a website in apache but it keeps telling me that the directory is not there any ideas please
[01:39] <dwid> couldnt find package nicotine
[01:39] <beef> benj,  what dir you trying to move to and does it show up when you do ls ?
[01:39] <beef> dwid: ok, hang on one second
[01:39] <aidan> need help with mp3 playback
[01:39] <b08y> does anyone else also have problems with h.264 playback under dapper?
[01:39] <tom47> davidohagan: and once mounted you can identify whether the eorrors you are finding are in th eiso downloaded or not
[01:39] <chiarato> jrib: what do you want me to do on lines 18,19,28 and 29?
[01:39] <beef> you using dapper or edgy dwid ?
[01:39] <killaz> /dev/sda1 vfat /media/sda1 , /dev/sda2 ntfs /media/sda2, /dev/sda3 etx3 /, /dev/sda5 ext3 /share, /dev/sda6 swap none
[01:39] <benj> command is mv 007-nuke --t 000-defualt and yes they appear when i ls thats whats got me stuffed
[01:40] <killaz> pbureau:  /dev/sda1 vfat /media/sda1 , /dev/sda2 ntfs /media/sda2, /dev/sda3 etx3 /, /dev/sda5 ext3 /share, /dev/sda6 swap none
[01:40] <dwid> dapper or edgy?
[01:40] <dwid> i have no clue what those are
[01:40] <b08y> !h.264
[01:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about h.264 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:40] <beef> versions of ubuntu
[01:40] <beef> 6.06 or 6.10
[01:40] <killaz> pbureau: and ofcourse my CD
[01:40] <killaz> pbureau: CD drive
[01:40] <pbureau> killaz, that is all in your fstab >
[01:40] <pbureau> ?
[01:40] <fbc> beef:  nope. it didn't work, it said the removal script returned and error code 127 and dpkg returned and error code of 1. Package name mozilla-firefox-es-es
[01:40] <dwid> 6.06
[01:40] <killaz> pbureau: yup
[01:40] <Cryoniq> bah.. searching on how to make ubuntu samba client using specified workgroup by default and not WORKGROUP as workgroup.. hmm
[01:40] <mon^rch> the loki installer for doom3 isnt working for me
[01:40] <Cryoniq> but all I find is how to config to set up a samba server and shares
[01:40] <aidan> need help with gsteramer
[01:41] <killaz> pbureau: and ofcourse /proc
[01:41] <davidohagan> tom47, I have i was looking around on the CD and I don't understand whats happening right now so I'm going to givwe up for awhile, thanks for trying to help
[01:41] <beef> Cryoniq: search for samba.conf ( think its in /etc) a few lines down  change 'mshome.net' to your workgroup name)
[01:41] <dwid> beef: 6.06
[01:42] <Cryoniq> oh.. hmm.. I thought that was only for config server.. =) okidoki :)
[01:42] <fbc> beef:  isn't there some kindda temp directory the package manager creates that I can delete to restart the process of installing?
[01:42] <tom47> davidohagan ok i can understand that
[01:42] <chiarato> jrib: did you copy that?
[01:42] <beef> dwid: ok, good, same as me, try this: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories then try sudo apt-get install nicotine again
[01:42] <Cryoniq> hmm could it be /etc/samba/smb.conf?
[01:43] <beef> Cryoniq: thats it yes
[01:43] <moshe> hello
[01:43] <beef> hi moshe
[01:43] <aidan> need help !!!
[01:43] <fbc> beef:  you know like it working directory that it checks for previous or incomplete installations before it will allow you to start another one?
[01:43] <beef> fbc: im not sure, not that ive come accross
[01:43] <beef> hi aidan
[01:43] <b08y> Hit3k, need help with , got problems with h.264 videos
[01:43] <moshe> I'm trying to boot up my dapper server which is running a forced check on one of my drives
[01:43] <Dante123> hi all.....I'm an elementary school teacher and at work we have a SmartBoard...that works fine with our windows laptops. I have ubuntu on my laptop and I have downloaded the SmartBoard software.....however....I can't seem to get it to detect the board.....hooked up via laptop USB to Serial port on Smartboard. Has anyone here had experience getting ubuntu to work with a Smartboard (interactive whiteboard)...I'm running ubuntu 6.10
[01:43] <b08y> Hit3k, need help with , got problems with h.264 videos
[01:43] <fbc> is there anyway of resetting the package manager? some file or directory that I can delete? "sudo dpkg install -f" fails to fix the problem.
[01:43] <b08y> asdf
[01:43] <moshe> the fs check is hanging about 3/4 the way through
[01:43] <jrib> chiarato: remove teh #
[01:43] <b08y> Hit3k, need help with , got problems with h.264 videos
[01:43] <pbureau_> killaz, hang on let me check something
[01:43] <moshe> is this the sign of a hardware problem?
[01:43] <beef> moshe: you could have a corrupt drive yes
[01:43] <moshe> or a possible hardware problem?
[01:44] <temujoe> any tips for getting php5.2 and gd onto ubuntu dapper? (it's not available for apt-get)
[01:44] <moshe> well, I just checked, and it apparently passed the fs check
[01:44] <`Penumbra> can anyone help me figure out how to set up my wireless internet on ubuntu, im currently on windows xp, but now i have ubuntu installed on another partition
[01:44] <Dante123> what kind of card do you have?
[01:44] <johnparks> hey is there anyone out there thats willing to help talking about a dual boot scenario?
[01:44] <benj> penumbra is it a router or a bridge
[01:44] <moshe> johnparks, what is the issue?
[01:44] <IntuitiveNipple> With Edgy, I've just lost 'sound' in Gnome - volume control disabled, says no sound device, and yet it played the mini-drum roll when I typed my username/password, and I've made no multimedia changes recently
[01:44] <Dante123> i have dual boot on a couple of machines what is your question?
[01:45] <aidan> beef : hi
[01:45] <beef> hi aidan , whats the problem?
[01:45] <fbc> `Penumbra:  what kinda card do you have?
[01:45] <aidan>  need help with a codec setup
[01:45] <beef> which codec?
[01:45] <`Penumbra> i have belkin wireless
[01:45] <gyaresu> `Penumbra: have you tried wifimanager?
[01:45] <aidan> 12 some gst-plugin
[01:45] <tom47> Dante123 if you have no luck with yr question here #edubuntu might be a place to try
[01:45] <Dante123> ok...thanks...
[01:45] <`Penumbra> i just installed ubuntu and havent tried anything
[01:45] <fbc> `Penumbra:  If it's a BCM43xx based card there is a guide for that that weorked well for me..
[01:45] <beef> aidan: im not familiar with that, what's it do?
[01:46] <`Penumbra> bcm4306
[01:46] <`Penumbra> is what mine is
[01:46] <aidan> allows mp3 playback or somethiink like that
[01:46] <beef> oh
[01:46] <beef> hang on
[01:46] <beef> try this:
[01:46] <fbc> `Penumbra:  ok then follow the guide until you figure out what kinda card you have...
[01:46] <beef> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs
[01:46] <`Penumbra> v1799 d7000
[01:46] <aidan> im usign 5.10
[01:47] <fbc> !ubontu wireless
[01:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubontu wireless - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:47] <beef> ah hang on then aidan
[01:47] <aidan> 12sry man
[01:47] <benj> can you see your wireless network
[01:47] <`Penumbra> i dont know how to do anything on ubuntu i just installed it
[01:48] <beef> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs aidan
[01:48] <killaz> pbureau_: swapon -a give me this: swapon: /dev/disk/by-uuid/2d1f2174-53a4-4030-83da-d5c3d118b3ba: Invalid argument
[01:48] <aidan> beefthanks
[01:48] <beef> no probs, hope it works for ya
[01:49] <`Penumbra> if anyone thinks they could possibly help me
[01:49] <`Penumbra> please pm me
[01:49] <aidan> same lol :P
[01:49] <killaz> pbureau_: I'll brb
[01:49] <`Penumbra> the constant scrolling is crazy
[01:49] <frogzoo_> !enter | Pensa`MIA
[01:49] <ubotu> Pensa`MIA: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:49] <frogzoo_> !enter | `Penumbra
[01:49] <ubotu> `Penumbra: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:51] <chiarato> jrib: this is what I got http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3653/
[01:51] <Gevaudan82> Hello all...I've somehow managed to fubar my edgy installation. I added my primary account to the www-data group like usermod -G www-data myusername and now synaptec has dissapeared from the gnome menu and when i try to click users and groups I get a message about not having permission to do this...I even reverted by typing usermod -G myusername myusername but nothing seems to help
[01:51] <b08y> hey guys, need help, anyone wells problems with videos with h.264 codec ?? cant play them
[01:51] <jrib> chiarato: ok, comment 18 and 19 then
[01:51] <fbc> `Penumbra:  look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:51] <IntuitiveNipple> Could losing membership of some of the supplemental groups cause me to lose access to sound? What groups does Ubuntu Edgy add the default user to?
[01:51] <jrib> (again)
[01:51] <beef> what you playing the h.264 with?
[01:51] <jrib> IntuitiveNipple: audio
[01:52] <b08y> beef tried mplayer and vlc
[01:52] <beef> hmm
[01:52] <aidan> beef
[01:52] <aidan> pm me
[01:52] <beef> ok
[01:52] <b08y> beef: both lag hard, but mplayer lags less,but still not watchable
[01:52] <chiarato> jrib: ok, this is what I got now http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3654/
[01:53] <beef> hm im not sure to be honest, vlc would have been my suggestion
[01:53] <beef> have you tried searching the ubuntu forums ?
[01:53] <jrib> chiarato: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[01:53] <IntuitiveNipple> jrib: ok, should the default user be in that group? I used usermod -G without -a earlier and I it might be having knock-on effects
[01:53] <b08y> beef: not yet
[01:53] <jrib> IntuitiveNipple: yes
[01:53] <IntuitiveNipple> jrib: Thanks... I'm booting a notebook with Ubuntu on to copy the group memberships from
[01:54] <po0f> IntuitiveNipple: <user> adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip www-data video plugdev games users lpadmin scanner admin
[01:54] <IntuitiveNipple> Eeeek - 11 groups!
[01:54] <po0f> IntuitiveNipple: But I added myself to users, www-data, and games.
[01:54] <Gevaudan82> IntuitiveNipple: it sounds like we have the exact same problem...is there a list of groups out there which the default user should be apart of or a command to restore to it
[01:54] <IntuitiveNipple> No wonder it all went a bit giggly :)
[01:54] <fbc> is there anyway of resetting the package manager? some file or directory that I can delete? "sudo dpkg install -f" fails to fix the problem.
[01:54] <chiarato> jrib: whats the command to see which version of flash am I running now?
[01:54] <IntuitiveNipple> I'd just built a new kernel and thought that was the reason :p
[01:55] <IntuitiveNipple> Gevaudan82: Do you want me to pastebin this list of groups for you?
[01:55] <fbc> isn't there some kindda temp directory the package manager creates that I can delete to restart the process of installing?
[01:55] <KaroSHi> fbc: we dont know
[01:55] <Gevaudan82> IntuitiveNipple: that would be fantastic, thanks!
[01:55] <yomm> chiarato:  insert_app --version
[01:55] <jrib> chiarato: visithttp://www.macromedia.com/software/flash/about/
[01:55] <KaroSHi> try searching the ubuntu forums
[01:55] <killaz> pbureau_: nah the swap aint there anymore
[01:55] <IntuitiveNipple> Give me a mo... got to do it on the notebook
[01:55] <fbc> KaroSHi: I did but here I go again..
[01:55] <pbureau_> killaz, looked at it with gparted ?
[01:55] <KaroSHi> from my experience
[01:56] <KaroSHi> if you apt-get install *package* itl pick up from where it left off.
[01:56] <aidan> the get-apt didnt work
[01:56] <duckdown> Hi all.. Back whe nI used to use Windows (shudder) I used to use an SSH client called PUTTY, which would let me open an encrypted tunnel to whoever I would SSH to (it would listen on a port, and then I could surf the web through this tunnel, etc.)  It made a SOCKS5 Proxy I believe (Im sure someone here must b e famialiar with this).. Can someone tell me how I can start a tunnel in Linux?
[01:56] <spasticteapot> it's apt-get.
[01:56] <spasticteapot> Not get-apt.
[01:56] <aidan> well sry typo
[01:56] <killaz> I found a post in ubuntuforum where there was a guy with same problem and he resolved it using makeswap
[01:56] <aidan> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://au.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/au.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[01:56] <pbureau_> question: aside from apps, what is the command line to show already partitioned (but possibly not mounted) partitions on a HDD
[01:56] <Torlos> hello
[01:56] <spasticteapot> Does anyone know of a good P2P filesharing program for Linux?
[01:57] <yomm> duckdown check stunnel
[01:57] <IntuitiveNipple> Gevaudan82: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3655/
[01:57] <killaz> but I'm wondering how can I find the hd signauture of the /dev/sda6
[01:57] <po0f> pbureau_: fdisk -l
[01:57] <KaroSHi> sparkleytone: there are loads, what network did you used to use?
[01:57] <St3althy> hey where is the httpd.conf file located???
[01:57] <duckdown> spasticteapot, DC++ and Limewire (eww) both have Linux clients
[01:57] <duckdown> theres many more
[01:57] <duckdown> giFtoxic, etc
[01:57] <pbureau_> killaz, first check with  ' fdisk -l' to see if it is really gone
[01:57] <IntuitiveNipple> St3althy: in /etc/apache2/ I think
[01:57] <pbureau_> po0f, thanks man
[01:57] <yomm> true stunnel is quite straightforward though
[01:57] <chiarato> jrib: it says 9.0 thanks again man!
[01:57] <duckdown> yomm, thank you I will
[01:57] <Torlos> i have a problem with changing resolution few minute after start gnome session !!
[01:57] <spasticteapot> duckdown: Limewire is...well...lousy.
[01:57] <jrib> chiarato: np
[01:57] <spasticteapot> Not a lot of files.
[01:58] <spasticteapot> Lousy speeds, too.
[01:58] <Gevaudan82> IntuitiveNipple: thanks again...did you edit the shadow file manually or add the groups back using usermod?
[01:58] <pbureau_> St3althy, use -> locate httpd.conf
[01:58] <spasticteapot> Does anyone know how to set up DC++?
[01:58] <KaroSHi> no one is debating limewire is crap (and anyone who is is wrong ;) )
[01:58] <aidan> umm
[01:58] <duckdown> yomm, what do ya mean by true stunnel is straightforward
[01:58] <killaz> pbureau_: it is still there /dev/sda6            4734        4864     1052226   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[01:58] <chiarato> jrib: is there a list of all programs I can install with this new tool backdoor?
[01:58] <duckdown> :)
[01:58] <aidan> need help with codec
[01:58] <IntuitiveNipple> Gevaudan82: I'm issuing a usermod -aG group,group2,group3,group4 command
[01:58] <yomm> that its not TOO hard to setup :p
[01:58] <pbureau_> killaz, see.
[01:58] <duckdown> yomm, ohh, weeee :)  thanks
[01:59] <pbureau_> killaz, you may need to reformat the swap and remount it then
[01:59] <killaz> pbureau_: now I have to check howto use the UUID with makeswap
[01:59] <jrib> chiarato: backdoor?
[01:59] <yomm> lol np & good luck
[01:59] <chiarato> jrib: sorry backport!!!
[01:59] <riotkittie> heh
[01:59] <aidan> HELLO
[01:59] <spasticteapot> Er...does anyone know how to set up DC++?
[01:59] <Torlos> changing resolution  work in the first minutes of gnome session but don't work after ??
[02:00] <pbureau_> killaz, another day another thing learned :)
[02:00] <spasticteapot> I miss Shareaza. And pretty much nothing else.
[02:00] <jrib> chiarato: you could use an aptitude search.  Maybe synaptic lets you do it too, I don't know offhand
[02:00] <aidan> can anyone help me setup a audio codec
[02:00] <chiarato> jrib: ok thanks man!
[02:01] <pbureau_> aidan, whats are you trying to setup?
[02:01] <NetCruZa> I have a problem: When i set up a password on one of my ubuntu computers, then it is no problem to connect to it. But after both computers have been turned off, it keeps saying the password is wrong... If i then change it and connects again, it works until next time
[02:01] <NetCruZa> I mean VNC password (Remote Desktop)
[02:02] <mon^rch> anyone installed the doom3 demo for linux? (Im downloading it)
[02:03] <IntuitiveNipple> Ahhh! sorted - thanks for the advice
[02:03] <tecta> how would I search for a wireless network on my ubuntu laptop?
[02:03] <Torlos> Can you help me with a problem of changing resolution in gnome
[02:03] <Torlos> ?
[02:03] <aidan> can help with auido codecs
[02:04] <tecta> no one uses wireless internet in Ubuntu?
[02:04] <killaz> yeah ... when I do mkswap I get the new UUID....
[02:04] <killaz> pbureau_: yeah ... when I do mkswap I get the new UUID....
[02:04] <aidan> !pm |ubontu
[02:04] <ubotu> ubontu: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[02:05] <DCR> Hello, I was looking at the Wiki on installing the NVIDIA drivers, and It tells me to type sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common
[02:05] <DCR> sudo nvidia-xconfig BUT when I type it I get this 404 Error ( 404 Not Found
[02:05] <DCR> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15/nvidia-glx_1.0.8762+2.6.15.11-3_i386.deb  404 Not Found). So what do I really need to do to install them?
[02:05] <aidan> need help any1 with a audio codec allow me to play mp3
[02:05] <thoreauputic> !pate
[02:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:05] <thoreauputic> !paste
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[02:05] <killaz> pbureau_: I'll just try it with the old UUID and then the new one.
[02:05] <killaz> pbureau_:  I wonder how this happens. I read it has something to do with hibernate
[02:05] <tom47> !restrictedformats > aidan
[02:05] <killaz> brb
[02:06] <thoreauputic> DCR: wait a while and try again - maybe the server is in the process of updating or something
[02:06] <thoreauputic> DCR: and run apt-get update before tryimg again
[02:07] <DCR> How?
[02:07] <DCR> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3656/
[02:07] <DCR> That's the Error I get
[02:08] <t3> people, how can I know what kind of ubuntu (dapper, edgy, etc) is running here?
[02:08] <DCR> Thoreauptic
[02:08] <DCR> How do I do that?
[02:08] <LjL> t3: lsb_release -a
[02:09] <LjL> DCR, just wait. that error looks very much like the security repository is being updated right now
[02:09] <t3> LjL: tks buddy
[02:09] <kamui> I get sound from some apps, but for some reason I can't seem to get sound from Firefox, is there somewhere I have to configure what device it should use?
[02:09] <pbureau_> is there a way to know what module is loaded for a network card from the command line ?
[02:10] <DCR> LjL: I've been doing it for the past week
[02:10] <DCR> And it wont work
[02:10] <DCR> I googled it
[02:10] <DCR> And there was a thread about it
[02:10] <DCR> With the exact same error
[02:10] <LjL> weird
[02:10] <killaz> pbureau_: yes m8 we learned a new thing today... ;-)
[02:10] <DCR> But it was archived, it was a long time ago
[02:10] <DCR> And with no replies
[02:10] <pbureau_> killaz, used swapmake ?
[02:10] <DCR> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-259628.html
[02:11] <killaz> pbureau_: sudo mkswap /dev/sda6
[02:11] <pbureau_> killaz, got a swap now ?
[02:11] <killaz> pbureau_: this wil gie you a UUID
[02:11] <killaz> yup
[02:11] <pbureau_> killaz, lol 2nd night your going to be more intelligent :)
[02:11] <killaz> sudo swapon -a (after changing the old UUID with the new one)
[02:11] <fnord123> hi all. Where do feisty fawn bug discussions take place? I looked on launchpad, but it was surprisingly sparse. I'm suspicious that it's not the official discussion space.
[02:12] <killaz> yeah this is amazing :-)
[02:12] <pbureau_> killaz, linux will do that to you, use it for a month and you will have absorbed all sorts of info.
[02:12] <killaz> but I'm gonna figure out tomorrow how this can happen...
[02:12] <kitche> fnord123: not sure but #ubuntu+1 would probably know more about it
[02:12] <pbureau_> killaz, and when you end up on a window box, your like... well this is ... boring..
[02:12] <killaz> pbureau_: its not nice to lose a swap like that
[02:12] <osx5> can someone tell me whats better about PCIExpress 2.0 and when it'll be out?
[02:12] <LjL> pbureau_, "lshw" till tell you about the network interfaces
[02:13] <aidan> how to check if gsteram is running
[02:13] <killaz> pbureau_: hehheehhe
[02:14] <killaz> pbureau_: I have the other boot (windows) just to be able to use an application they have running at the office
[02:14] <frogzoo_> osx5: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20061010-7945.html
[02:15] <killaz> pbureau_: otherwise .....
[02:15] <tecta> can anyone help me connect to the internet through my wireless netowkr?
[02:15] <osx5> k
[02:15] <osx5> ty
[02:15] <chiarato> what happens to all the lines that disappear on the xchat irc I need to go back and copy some commands???
[02:15] <Candamir> hi
[02:15] <spasticteapot> tecta: What's up with your wireless network?
[02:15] <killaz> pbureau_: one more thing was nice to learn today how to make evolution+plugin to connect to an exchange server
[02:16] <Candamir> what can i do if the install cd doesnt detect my hard drive
[02:16] <LjL> DCR, if i look at the contents of the security repository, it seems to me that there is a newer version of that package (1.0.8776+2.6.15.12-1) available, so what we need to find out is why your APT isn't using that instead
[02:16] <LjL> DCR: for starters, though i think you've already been told to do this, do a "sudo apt-get update", and make sure there aren't any errors
[02:16] <thoreauputic> chiarato: turn on logging to keep stuff - it lands in ~/.xchat2/xchatlogs I think
[02:17] <DCR> Ok
[02:17] <DCR> I did that
[02:17] <DCR> And it's like downloading a bunch of stuff
[02:17] <sidedraft> anyone have experience with ubuntu on a ps3? im not getting any video or mp3 playback
[02:17] <DCR> 85% now
[02:17] <LjL> DCR: are you only getting lines that being with "Hit", or different ones as well?
[02:17] <DCR> And then after it's done, run the same command again?
[02:17] <LjL> DCR: no, run "sudo apt-get upgrade" now, and see if there are any packages listed for upgrade
[02:17] <thoreauputic> DCR: you need to run apt-get update regularly before installing stuff
[02:18] <po0f> sidedraft: I wish I had your problem.  :)
[02:18] <DCR> Yeah I did that
[02:18] <chiarato> thoreauputic: where do I do that?
[02:18] <DCR> And it's downloading a whole bunch of stuff now
[02:18] <sidedraft> poof: :(
[02:18] <DCR> They begin with GET
[02:18] <LjL> DCR: then i guess you did *not* do it previously, if you're getting gets (erm)...
[02:18] <thoreauputic> chiarato: in xchat, Settings-Preferences-Logging
[02:18] <DCR> ok
[02:18] <DCR> Thank you
[02:19] <pbureau_> killaz, I prefer thunderburd.
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[02:20] <jrib> !ops
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[02:20] <JhonSonMaster> 9 Mort aux juifs ! 6
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[02:20] <chiarato> thoreauputic: how about stuff that was written before I enabled logging ??
[02:21] <thoreauputic> chiarato: you might find logs online
[02:21] <thoreauputic> !logs
[02:21] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[02:21] <thoreauputic> chiarato: also try /lastlog <nick>
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[02:22] <nikin> i have problems running Java chat.... it shows up a window with a text in the middle: Java Aplet Window ... but the program itself does not apear
[02:22] <killaz> pbureau_: it got calendar and echange server connection?
[02:23] <chiarato> !logs
[02:23] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[02:23] <Bugz__> o.0
[02:23] <pbureau_> killaz, I dunno about that, I need SSL and TSL for my mail server and evolution did not have it out of the box,
[02:24] <icebird_> Once I have mounted a truecrypt volume (hard disk that was incrypted in a NTFS fs) how do I change the filepermissions.  When under root I can do rw but in the user i can't even access.  Furthermore, when I try to change the permissions when logged in as root it says that the drive is read only so I can't change it to where the user owns it.
[02:25] <codi> Anyone know a good text editor that can edit remote files
[02:25] <codi> I was using quanta, but it is very slow, and works sporadically
[02:26] <frogzoo_> codi: all editors can edit remove files if you have file system access
[02:26] <frogzoo_> codi: all editors can edit remote files if you have file system access
[02:26] <sapage_> !w32codecs
[02:26] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[02:27] <codi> ? so mount the ftp filesystem in ubuntu, then file-open in gedit?
[02:27] <base3> hi, i would like to know if there is any package to allow gcc to cross-compile to sparc architecture - i presume that ubuntu is not supported on sparc?
[02:27] <thoreauputic> !sparc
[02:27] <ubotu> Have a look here for Docs http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/install/sparc/ KnownIssues and TODO are on the wiki.
[02:28] <`Penumbra> still aint figured out my wireless internet
[02:28] <thoreauputic> base3: ^^^
[02:28] <`Penumbra> how do i do the whole ndis thing
[02:28] <thoreauputic> !wifi
[02:28] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:28] <base3> thx thoreauputic
[02:29] <thoreauputic> :)
[02:29] <icebird_> !!!HELP!!! Once I have mounted a truecrypt volume (hard disk that was encrypted in a NTFS fs) how do I change the file permissions.  When under root I can read/write but in the user account I can't even access it.  Furthermore, when I try to change the permissions when logged in as root it says that the drive is read only so I can't change it to where the user owns it or can read from it.
[02:29] <Bugz__> thoreauputic I need some help reguarding no sound, with an nVidia sound card..
[02:29] <DCR> Woah, It finished running the updates, and this is what I get now
[02:29] <thoreauputic> Bugz__: I'm not a sound expert, sorry
[02:29] <DCR> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common
[02:29] <DCR> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[02:29] <`Penumbra> see the problem with that, is that i dont know how to do the run command to do what it says
[02:30] <thoreauputic> DCR: so run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:30] <LjL> DCR: run it (with sudo, that is "sudo dpkg --configure -a") and then run "sudo apt-get -f install"
[02:30] <thoreauputic> DCR: and don't interrupt apt again :)
[02:31] <thoreauputic> `Penumbra: be specific
[02:31] <Bugz__> Anyone in here that could help with the sound problem..
[02:32] <`Penumbra> Using tar extract the archived driver and change directories into the build area.
[02:32] <`Penumbra> user@ubuntu:~$ tar xvzf ndiswrapper-1.28.tar.gz
[02:32] <`Penumbra> user@ubuntu:~$ cd ndiswrapper-1.28
[02:32] <thoreauputic> !sound
[02:32] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:32] <Bugz__> The sound card is an nVidia sound card. And im new to ubuntu
[02:32] <DCR> Gah, I don't get it
[02:32] <`Penumbra> i dont know how to do that
[02:32] <DCR> sudo apt-get...
[02:32] <LjL> DCR: ?
[02:33] <thoreauputic> `Penumbra: those are command to be issued in  a terminal
[02:33] <Bugz__> ok ill try that real quick
[02:33] <Bugz__> brb
[02:33] <`Penumbra> when i do that it says location doesnt exist or something like that
[02:33] <thoreauputic> `Penumbra: Apps-Accessories-Terminal
[02:33] <DCR> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common
[02:33] <DCR> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[02:33] <DCR> I typed dpkg --configure -a
[02:33] <thoreauputic> `Penumbra: means you are in the wrong directory usually
[02:34] <DCR> Won't work
[02:34] <`Penumbra> and how do i change directories?
[02:34] <LjL> `Penumbra: it's just saying to 1) open a shell 2) download ndiswrapper using the command  wget http://address/where/there/is/ndiswrapper-1.28.tar.gz  3) do  tar xvzf ndiswrapper-1.28.tar.gz  4) do  cd ndiswrapper-1.28 
[02:34] <thoreauputic> DCR:  sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:34] <frogzoo_> !docs | `Penumbra
[02:34] <ubotu> `Penumbra: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[02:34] <thoreauputic> `Penumbra:  cd /path/to/directory
[02:34] <DCR> Won't work
[02:34] <thoreauputic> !doesn't work
[02:34] <ubotu> Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[02:34] <DCR> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:34] <DCR> dpkg: failed to write status record about `debconf' to `/var/lib/dpkg/status': No space left on device
[02:35] <spasticteapot> Does anyone know where I can get a .deb of GNUnet?
[02:35] <LjL> DCR: your HD is full
[02:35] <DCR> LjL: So what do I need to do?
[02:35] <DCR> Sorry, this is my first time
[02:35] <LjL> DCR: ... clean up some space?
[02:35] <Bugz__> DCR: Delete something
[02:35] <base3> thoreauputic, i am actually wanting to cross-compile to sparc, gcc as installed by default won't do it
[02:35] <thoreauputic> DCR: remove some stuff ?
[02:35] <thoreauputic> base3: That's beyond my experience, sorry
[02:36] <LjL> DCR: try "sudo apt-get clean", for starters, assuming apt-get won't refuse to work, which it probably will
[02:36] <LjL> DCR: then just go and delete files
[02:36] <DCR> BUT, I havent even installed this thing, I'm using the "demo" because my resolution is screwed and the drop down menu doesnt have anything
[02:36] <Bugz__> thor are you an host or something?
[02:36] <spasticteapot> Anyone here managed to get GNUnet to work?
[02:36] <thoreauputic> Bugz__: ?
[02:36] <Bugz__> you seem to help alot of people..
[02:36] <LjL> DCR: you're on the live cd?! that's a completely different matter then
[02:36] <base3> if sparc is supported then it should be possible to set up gcc as required, but i don't know how
[02:36] <thoreauputic> Bugz__: I used to help a lot - haven't been around as much lately :)
[02:36] <tom47> spasticteapot: i found it listed in synaptic
[02:36] <DCR> Yes I am
[02:36] <Bugz__> DCR: I had problems on LiveCD
[02:37] <Bugz__> DCR: Id suggest installing ubuntu to the hard-drive,
[02:37] <LjL> DCR: reboot, and disable the -updates and -security repositories (i'll explain how), and only then install nvidia-glx. don't accept any "automatic updates" meanwhile
[02:37] <jriffle> if a usbkey is booted first what /dev/sda or /dev/sdb if internal is /dev/sda usually
[02:37] <DCR> So I need to fix my resolution so I can actually install it
[02:37] <DCR> But I can barely see the window
[02:37] <LjL> DCR: tried the safe graphics mode?
[02:37] <feld> anyone here running a 32bit edgy chroot with firefox in it?
[02:37] <codi> all my windows are over top of my applications menu? any ideas?>
[02:37] <DCR> Nope
[02:37] <LjL> DCR: then do that, that's why it exists
[02:38] <DCR> Alright, thanks
[02:38] <DCR> Now brb
[02:38] <DCR> Ill try iy
[02:38] <DCR> Thanks
[02:38] <spasticteapot> tom47: The version in the repository is very old. It won't work.
[02:41] <dmesg> hi
[02:41] <Xerocide> I have a question
[02:41] <LjL> !ask
[02:41] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:41] <thoreauputic> !ask
[02:41] <thoreauputic> heh
[02:42] <dmesg> the oficial ubutu page can be on bloger?
[02:42] <dmesg> ubuntu
[02:42] <thoreauputic> LjL: too quick :)
[02:42] <codi> right click menus aren't working. and the applications menu is alwasy underneath all my other windows
[02:43] <dmesg> is any way can ubuntu give host for a espanish projec
[02:43] <LjL> dmesg: i don't think there's anything stopping you from linking to ubuntu.com from another site, if that's what you're saying
[02:43] <thoreauputic> !es
[02:43] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[02:43] <Xerocide> Ok, whenever I try to check for defects on the CD, and it does some initializing and stuff, but then it just restarts again does nothing.
[02:43] <dmesg> ok
[02:43] <zomba> !bg
[02:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:43] <rotero> Hello, all.
[02:43] <thoreauputic> Xerocide: that's a pretty unhelpful explanation :) Try again
[02:44] <pbureau> I am starting to hate grep, I do - sudo lshw | grep -i network and it only gives me the *-network but not the various lines below it... (line vares from 5-10 lines depending on adapter)
[02:44] <riotkittie> what restarts - teh computer? the disc check process?
[02:44] <Xerocide> Alright...I burned the iso with infra recorder
[02:44] <Xerocide> If that helps?
[02:44] <rotero> Can someone point me to a good HOWTO for installing a new graphics card.  I'm going from the integrated graphics hardware on my Intel motherboard to a Radeon 7000.  From what I've read so far, it can be difficult.
[02:44] <frogzoo_> pbureau: -b -a -n
[02:44] <LjL> pbureau: the  -A somenumber  option lets grep show up some number of lines *after* the hit
[02:45] <thoreauputic> Xerocide: not really - did you burn it as an iso image?
[02:45] <Xerocide> Yes.
[02:45] <LjL> pbureau: same for -B, which should some lines before
[02:45] <thoreauputic> Xerocide: does it boot?
[02:45] <theflyingfool> does anyone know if keyboard volume controls have been updated allowing people to select which volume control to change
[02:45] <Xerocide> It boots up the menu, but after I check for defects on the cd, it just restarts my computer again.
[02:45] <Xerocide> Check for defects meaning that option when the cd boots.
[02:45] <thoreauputic> Xerocide: did you check the md5sum ?
[02:45] <frogzoo_> pbureau: try option -A
[02:45] <johan__> hillo, my keyboard work in login window but once i login the keyboard dont work
[02:46] <Xerocide> No, but I downloaded it from the site.
[02:46] <Xerocide> I used the torrent that I got from the site.
[02:46] <johan__> i find this highly problematic
[02:46] <LjL> pbureau: besides, you can always do  lshw -class network 
[02:46] <thoreauputic> Xerocide: check the md5sum, if thats OK try burning at a slower speed
[02:46] <pbureau> LjL,  AHAH !
[02:46] <sixpointeight> I need some major help.
[02:46] <Xerocide> I should be able to burn to a 700 mb/ 80 min cd-rw, right?
[02:46] <sixpointeight> nvm.
[02:46] <thoreauputic> Xerocide: yes
[02:47] <Xerocide> Alright.
[02:47] <johan__> anyone ever had keyboard problem in linux
[02:47] <tom47> spasticteapot there is even a vmware appliance
[02:47] <thoreauputic> !anyone
[02:47] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:47] <Xerocide> Not sure how to check the md5 sum, and I can't exactly find that guide again.
[02:47] <frogzoo_> johan__: keyboard problems are pretty rare tbh
[02:47] <pbureau> LjL, it replied  to  'lshw | grep -class network' , (standard input)
[02:47] <sixpointeight> I recently installed KlamAV ob kubuntu and it ut the boot image in the quarantine, how do i get it out?
[02:47] <thoreauputic> !md5
[02:47] <ubotu> To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[02:48] <Xerocide> Thank you.
[02:48] <logikon> xerophyte: on linux? its a command line utility..
[02:48] <thoreauputic> :)
[02:48] <logikon> ops
[02:48] <LjL> pbureau: uh? that's not a valid syntax... the  -class  option is for lshw, not for grep
[02:48] <logikon> xerocide
[02:48] <johan__> i find it weird that my keyboard works at login but not within the window environment
[02:48] <LjL> pbureau: just type  lshw -network 
[02:48] <sixpointeight> and now i can't start ubuntu/kubuntu.
[02:48] <LjL> pbureau: just type  lshw -class network    i meant
[02:48] <ssstormy> hello, I want to install ubuntu on my laptop, but the CD-ROM drive is busted.  Currently netbooting would be the only way to get a linux kernel going on it.  Is there any kind of docs on this?
[02:48] <thoreauputic> !netinstall
[02:48] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[02:48] <theflyingfool> How do I set my volume keys on my keyboard, to affect a differnt volume setting then the one its set to
[02:49] <ssstormy> thoreauputic, thank you
[02:49] <LjL> pbureau, do you have several network cards and simply want a table with interface name -> module?
[02:49] <pbureau> LjL,  I have 1 cat 2 wireless
[02:49] <thoreauputic> theflyingfool: set the volume control to master or PCM etc in the gnome dialog ( double click the speaker icon)
[02:49] <pbureau> LjL, trying to figgure out what module my wifi is using.
[02:50] <Xerocide> Do I have to have a useable partition to start it?
[02:50] <theflyingfool> thoreauputic, i double clicked the speaker icon and it just brought up the volume control on screen, what setting do i need to change
[02:50] <thoreauputic> Xerocide: what do you mean?
[02:51] <Xerocide> I just want to try running linux (using a livecd), do I need a free partition for that?
[02:51] <riotkittie> no, Xerocide
[02:51] <thoreauputic> theflyingfool: hmm - sorry that appears not to be the control that determines which of PCM or master gets used... not sure then
[02:51] <holycow> *hmmm*
[02:51] <thoreauputic> theflyingfool: have a look in gconftool perhaps
[02:51] <LjL> pbureau: lshw -class network will do fine
[02:52] <theflyingfool> thoreauputic, just open that via terminal?
[02:52] <pbureau> LjL, oh yes it is giving me the info thank you again... I wrote it down :)
[02:52] <EnsignRedshirt> When compiling a program the uses ./configure, is there a standard command or option to "unconfigure" the files, i.e. return to the condition before ./configure was first run?  (Short of deleting everything and untarring the tar file again.)
[02:52] <riotkittie> teh live CD doesnt touch your hard drive, it operates runs in your RAM
[02:52] <holycow> how do i enable restricted users to modify networking?  they REALLY should have access to networking tools particularly on a single user laptop type of situation
[02:52] <rotero> Do you need to boot to recovery mode to run dpkg-reconfigure?
[02:52] <thoreauputic> theflyingfool: gconf-editor
[02:52] <LjL> pbureau: the module is under "driver="
[02:52] <Dante123> what is up with netpanzer server being down?
[02:53] <thoreauputic> theflyingfool: or edit your menu to include it - I think it is under system tools ( at least in dapper)
[02:53] <theflyingfool> thoreauputic, any idea which category to start looking in
[02:53] <LjL> rotero: no
[02:53] <LjL> rotero: if the dpkg-reconfigure is for xserver-xorg, however, you *will* need to restart X in order for the new settings to take effect
[02:53] <tom47> Xerocide: but please be aware that because it is running off cd it will seem very slow ... an characteristic it does not share when its installed to hard disk
[02:53] <pbureau> LjL, yep... inetresting everyone ws telling my atheros ar5005g cardw as using rt61 (it is an rt61 chipset) but out of the box it is using ath_pci driver... and it works like a charm... I was going to change it but....I dont see the point of it
[02:53] <thoreauputic> theflyingfool: heh - not really, sorry - I worked it out a bout a year ago and have forgotten how :)
[02:53] <daviey> !mp3
[02:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:54] <rotero> LjL:  You read my mind.  After reconfiguring, how do I restart X properly?
[02:54] <johan__> my keyboard worked before, and suddenly stopped working in ubuntu not even after a reboot
[02:54] <theflyingfool> thoreauputic, i think i need to change from master to pcm, if that sounds right i will try google
[02:54] <LjL> rotero: Cltr+Alt+Backspace is proper enough, if you have logged off first
[02:54] <thoreauputic> rotero: ctrl-alt-backspace, or just log out and in again
[02:54] <LjL> pbureau, ath-pci might just be one module that's part of a collection of modules making up the Atheros drivers. try an "lsmod | grep rt", perhaps the other is there, too
[02:54] <rotero> Thanks, guys.
[02:54] <LjL> pbureau: or try even "lsmod | grep ath", it should tell you which modules depend on ath-pci
[02:55] <thoreauputic> LjL: i think logging out restarts gdm and X - right? Or not?
[02:55] <Nontitle> i dont think it restarts gdm
[02:55] <LjL> thoreauputic: hm, actually no, i used to believe that too... but it doesn't, GDM just respawns by itself, it isn't restarted and does not restart X
[02:55] <thoreauputic> LjL: ah OK - thanks
[02:56] <Nontitle> it will if you restart the x session with Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[02:56] <rotero> thoreauputic:  GDM = Gnome Desktop Manager?
[02:56] <thoreauputic> yes ctrl-alt-bkspce works
[02:56] <Nontitle> Display Manager
[02:56] <pbureau> LjL, nope... no rt61(forget the ending of it right now) module
[02:56] <thoreauputic> rotero: Gnome Display Manager
[02:56] <rotero> Nontitle:  Thanks.
[02:56] <Nontitle> np
[02:56] <LjL> the "properest" way would probably be "sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart", thoreauputic, but to begin with, this will not work if you do it from inside X (it will be killed before it finishes...), so in this case the "ugly" ctrl+alt+bs way is probably good enough ;)
[02:56] <pbureau> LjL, can I do a grep with rt61**??
[02:56] <thoreauputic> rotero: login screen
[02:56] <LjL> pbureau: i just told you how to do a grep with "rt", that's even more generic
[02:57] <whonicca> would the ubuntu livecd stay frozen for any particular reason while trying to install
[02:57] <LjL> pbureau: "grep rt" means "show me any lines which contains the letter 'r' followed by the letter 't'", so it will certainly match rt61whatever
[02:57] <thoreauputic> LjL:  /etc/init.d/gdm restart appears to work here from X
[02:57] <pbureau> LjL,  ah lol I though I had to indicate the * afterwards..
[02:57] <Nontitle> it froze on me before when there were read errors on my hard drive
[02:57] <thoreauputic> LjL: same as invoke-rc.d of course
[02:57] <whonicca> hmm
[02:58] <whonicca> i cant barely get it started, like everything lags bad
[02:58] <LjL> pbureau: absolutely not,  *  means "the previous character repeated zero or more times". it's totally different from the way it works in the shell
[02:58] <pbureau> LjL, gotcha
[02:58] <tom47> whonicca there are a number of reasons why this may be he case .... one that you are installing on an old or limited resource pc
[02:58] <wylie348> Hello all
[02:58] <Nontitle> LjL: do you use a french keyboard?
[02:58] <Nontitle> sorry, just curious
[02:59] <jack> What are the default games that come with Ubuntu?
[02:59] <LjL> Nontitle: nope, swedish... if you're asking about the , no, they're not on the keyboard (not directly, it's altgr+z and altgr+x), i'm just trying to get used to typing them because they're less ambiguous for people when given with commands
[02:59] <LjL> (in other words, they don't ask "do i have to type the quotes?)
[02:59] <thoreauputic> jack: quite a few - mostly card ganes, arcade etc
[02:59] <Nontitle> oh i see
[02:59] <LjL> thoreauputic, it did for me last time i tried it, but last time i tried it was probably Dapper otoh
[02:59] <thoreauputic> *ganes
[02:59] <LjL> *games
[03:00] <riotkittie> i should go play some ganes.
[03:00] <Math^> hello, how can I change my time in the console?
[03:00] <whonicca> tom47, AMD 64bit 4200+ dual core, 1 gig ram, 250g hdd, 120g hdd, 128 on board nvidia video
[03:00] <thoreauputic> LjL: heh - I still run Dapper here, although I have edgy on another partition
[03:00] <tom47> whonicca nope does not sound resource bound does it :)
[03:01] <thoreauputic> LjL: thanks for correcting my repeated typo :)
[03:01] <LjL> ;)
[03:01] <whonicca> no, could it be the disc?
[03:01] <riotkittie> whonicca: did you check the disc for errors?
[03:01] <tom47> riotkittie are the open source danes??
[03:01] <whonicca> no i havent
[03:01] <thoreauputic> Math^: tzconfig, and  sudo date -s ( see the manual for "date" )
[03:02] <tom47> they*
[03:02] <holycow> how does one add users to a particular app once again, so they don't haveto type in their pass?  in particular network-admin
[03:02] <holycow> without giving them full sudo priviledges that is
[03:02] <whonicca> if i install 32bit, can i upgrade to 64bit later?
[03:03] <whonicca> cause the 32bit disc seems to work ok
[03:03] <seww> how do you get a RT61 chipset based wireless card to work in 6.10
[03:03] <seww> ?
[03:03] <DCR> Hello, I fixed the screen resolution error, now I'm installing it, BUT I have windows and I don't want to loose anything so I wanna dual boot, so I'm in Step 5, which option should I pick to dual boot?
[03:03] <rance> can someone remind me of the name of the init script management utility the equivalent of red hats chkconfig
[03:03] <riotkittie> tom47: indeed. open source danes carrying Kanes, even.
[03:03] <thoreauputic> holycow: you could use visudo  to set "no password" for network admin
[03:03] <holycow> thoreauputic, oh allright lets try
[03:04] <riotkittie> DCR: errr. whats step 5? details, details :P
[03:04] <thoreauputic> holycow: it's in the man somewhere ... :)
[03:04] <DCR> It says How do you want to partition the disk
[03:04] <johan__> my keyboard works in failsafe and at login but not within the kde environment
[03:04] <DCR> So should I pick manually edit partition table?
[03:04] <DCR> So I can dual boot?
[03:04] <DCR> with windows?
[03:04] <johan__> what kde settings could affect this
[03:04] <sixpointeight> if i use the ubuntu cd to fix my installation will it affect windows?
[03:05] <rcouto> Hi all! I just bought a new laptop that came with a fingerprint reader. I googled for some driver and I found this project: http://thinkfinger.sf.net. It supports my reader, however it needs a newer version o libpam than the one that comes with feisty herd 2. Any chance of seeing a newer version to download or any other way to compile my own?
[03:05] <tom47> whonicca unless you have a definite reason to use a 64bit OS, there are some advantages in usinf the 3 bit version eg more widely used etc
[03:05] <thoreauputic> !install | DCR
[03:05] <ubotu> DCR: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[03:05] <DCR> Agh..
[03:05] <seww> i cant get my wireless to work.
[03:05] <Xerocide> How do I know what the md5 hash SHOULD be for the iso that I have?
[03:05] <thoreauputic> DCR: you really should read that you know
[03:06] <thoreauputic> Xerocide: look on the download page for your CD
[03:06] <thoreauputic> Xerocide: the md5 s are there
[03:06] <seww> no one knows huh
[03:06] <riotkittie> DCR:  err. are you comfortable with a manual edit of the partition tables? if so, go for it. i believe the auto partitioning will set it up properly but i've never used that method myself
[03:06] <logikon> riotkittie: thats a doubt i always had, cause i always partitioned before i tried to install ubuntu.. can it resize a ntfs partition that previously occupied the whole hd and make room for an ext3?
[03:07] <thoreauputic> !doesn't work | seww
[03:07] <ubotu> seww: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[03:07] <seww> thanks
[03:07] <riotkittie> logikon: that i do not know. i've always manually partitioned and resized, too
[03:07] <thoreauputic> !wifi | seww
[03:07] <ubotu> seww: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:07] <logikon> riotkittie: cause that's imo a crucial step for migrating users..
[03:08] <sanzky> hi, does anyone knows if using colors in the prompt (PS1 variable) causes any problem when programs writes to stdout ?
[03:08] <thoreauputic> sanzky: why would it?
[03:09] <logikon> manual edition of partitions hasn't evolved much ten years from now .. :)
[03:09] <startswithz> where do I get SDL?
[03:09] <sanzky> thoreauputic, I dont know, but I am having that problem
[03:09] <DCR> riotkittie: No :(
[03:09] <thoreauputic> sanzky: I can't see any connection
[03:09] <riotkittie> logikon: given the fact that Ubuntu is, well, *Ubuntu*, i imagine that it does. but like i said, ive never tried it
[03:09] <sanzky> even a simple printf or a cout doesnt work fine
[03:09] <White_Lightning> so I'm thinking of killing myself
[03:09] <White_Lightning> I can't get my broadcom wireless to work
[03:09] <sanzky> and I remove colors it works fine again
[03:10] <thoreauputic> !bcm43xx
[03:10] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:10] <startswithz> before you kill yourself how do I get SDL?
[03:10] <logikon> DCR: in that case you'll probably do better using partitionmagic under windows
[03:10] <DCR> If anybody wants to help with the partition on my disk, please PM me, it's much easier, I really need the help, I read the Wiki already, thus I need more help
[03:10] <riotkittie> ooooh i hate partition magic
[03:10] <White_Lightning> I've tried all the ndiswrapper
[03:10] <White_Lightning> stuff
[03:10] <thoreauputic> White_Lightning: there's a section in the wifi docs about the bcm driver
[03:10] <White_Lightning> didn't work
[03:10] <White_Lightning> I know
[03:10] <White_Lightning> that's what didn't work
[03:10] <thoreauputic> White_Lightning: I have one here that works just fine
[03:10] <Xerocide> Alright, well I finally found out that the md5 hash is the same.
[03:10] <logikon> riotkittie: i hate windows :)
[03:10] <White_Lightning> it did with dapper but for some reason not with edgy
[03:10] <White_Lightning> I'm not sure what I'm missing
[03:11] <White_Lightning> because, obviously, I had to do it with dapper
[03:11] <ricklaw> bye
[03:11] <White_Lightning> I
[03:11] <riotkittie> logikon: hehe
[03:11] <White_Lightning> will keep trying
[03:11] <thoreauputic> White_Lightning: I tink if you tried ndiswrapper you have to blacklist it for bcm43xx to work
[03:12] <DCR|> If anybody wants to help with the partition on my disk, please PM me, it's much easier, I really need the help, I read the Wiki already, thus I need more help (I Identified with Nickserv already)
[03:12] <startswithz> help I need SDL to set up cube 2
[03:12] <rcouto> Ok... I'll try to rethink my question. What is the standard way to suggest for a newer version of a package to be added to the main repository?
[03:12] <sanzky> White_Lightning , I have a broadcom card and it works fine both with ndiswrapper and bcm43xx
[03:12] <rcouto> Thanks in advance, ppl
[03:12] <jvai> hey people
[03:13] <thoreauputic> DCR|: for dual boot, you should defrag win first, make a note of the space on the drive, and use that space in the installer
[03:13] <thoreauputic> !pm | DCR
[03:13] <ubotu> DCR: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[03:13] <DCR|> I defragmented already
[03:13] <DCR|> I'm not PMing anybody
[03:13] <DCR|> I'm asking if anybody can PM me with help
[03:13] <Xerocide> When I look at the iso in the location where I stored it, it says the filesize is 715mb, but when I right click it and go to properties it says 698, why is that?
[03:13] <LiENUS> any idea when feistry fawns coming out? i've noticed some sites updating to include info on it....
[03:13] <DCR|> Much easier
[03:14] <thoreauputic> DCR|: the other bit about asking in channel :)
[03:14] <kitche> rcouto: packages versions won't be updated only security fixes and bugfixes the packages will be updated in the next version
[03:14] <emun> hi, please what is mount , and what is the importance of mounting something
[03:14] <LiENUS> emun, mount is how you access a disk
[03:14] <rcouto> bad news, i guess :D thanks kitche
[03:14] <LiENUS> you mount it to a directy
[03:14] <LiENUS> you make its conents readable under a directory
[03:14] <LjL> Ubotu, tell LiENUS about feisty | LiENUS, see the private message from Ubotu
[03:14] <thoreauputic> emun: if you came from windows, think "mapping a drive"
[03:14] <DCR|> Do I make a new partition?
[03:14] <Milk_> anyone here managed to get hudlite installed and running?
[03:14] <logikon> you can also mount a horse..
[03:14] <rcouto> i'll try to port this lib to the older libpam
[03:14] <DCR|> Or resize NTFS
[03:15] <LiENUS> ah thats why people have been updating info to include it
[03:15] <Xerocide> What program would you recommend using to burn the iso to a disk?  Or does it not matter?
[03:15] <pbureau> logikon, andin some countries you get tyo mount the bride but we are disgressing... back to  linux
[03:15] <LiENUS> emun, when you insert a cdrom ubuntu automatically mounts it and puts it on your desktop
[03:15] <Pio> i am unable to boot due to a bug in the 2.6.17 kernel supplied with the edgy install iso (detailed here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/63134) ..
[03:15] <starry> Hi all, does anyone know how to change the default player in firefox from Totem to mplayer (or someother player that can handle streaming .wmv files)?
[03:15] <LjL> Xerocide: to burn ISO's, i normally just type "cdrecord -data -sao filename.iso"
[03:15] <LiENUS> unlike windows there are no drive letters in linux, everythings either a file or a directory
[03:15] <joselj> Hi everybody
[03:15] <Pio> anyone know if the newest kernel solves this issue?
[03:15] <aidan> need help still
[03:15] <thoreauputic> Xerocide: are you in Ubuntu ? If so just rick click the iso and choose to burn it
[03:15] <LiENUS> emun, clear enough?
[03:15] <aidan> cant install gay gst-plugin
[03:15] <catalytic> i have installed xubuntu and it did not install any sound card drivers for my onboard sound, where do I start to get this resolved?
[03:16] <logikon> mount /dev/bride /home/bed
[03:16] <joselj> does anyone know how to know if aiglx is enabled?
[03:16] <emun> LiEUNUS, THANKS what if you put a floppy disc in thje floppy drive,
[03:16] <Xerocide> No, I am still in windows, I am trying to load Ubuntu.
[03:16] <logikon> joselj: you use edgy eft?
[03:16] <pbureau> lol logikon  Iwould continue on that line of thought but afraid the angry ops will kick me
[03:16] <LiENUS> im not sure ubuntu will auto mount a flopy disk... i havent had a floppy drive in years...
[03:16] <LjL> emun: you need to mount it manually, because there is no automatic checking of the presence of a floppy in the drive, contrary to what happens with CD-ROMs
[03:16] <joselj> yes i'm using edgy
[03:16] <thoreauputic> Xerocide: the install wiki pages have info on burning disks
[03:16] <seww> i've tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT61?action=show&redirect=Rt61WirelessCardsHowTo, several times, but still doesn't work
[03:16] <logikon> joselj: than it is by default
[03:17] <LiENUS> LjL, might want to tell him how to mount it if you know... i dont know heh
[03:17] <thoreauputic> !install | Xerocide
[03:17] <ubotu> Xerocide: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[03:17] <pbureau> LjL, depends on hardware... windows mounts my floppy as soon as I slide into the slot... havent tried it in ubuntu (havent owned a floppy in a few years now) but I bet it would , but I have a auto-loading floppy drive unlike the average push into slot models
[03:17] <emun> Lji, how do you do that , and then copy stuff to it
[03:17] <LjL> LiENUS, emun:  sudo mount /media/floppy  (or perhaps floppy0) should work, i think, but there's certainly some way to do it from inside GNOME - i use KDE though
[03:17] <thoreauputic> Xerocide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[03:17] <joselj> so i have aiglx running? thats cool
[03:18] <LiENUS> LjL, heh i was hop-ing you knew how to do it in gnome, i dont know how to but i run gnome
[03:18] <logikon> joselj: going for the sweet beryl?
[03:18] <LiENUS> :/
[03:18] <LjL> pbureau, Windows doesn't mount the floppy at all. it simply assumes that, when you try to access A: or B:, there is a floppy in the drive. if there isn't, it makes noises for a while (a long while, on some computers...), and spits out an error
[03:18] <Doc_Bio> how does one configure and use wireless with edgy eft?
[03:18] <joselj> yes 4logikon
[03:18] <Hansin321> Can anyone tell me a good command line tool (not GUI) to change what services start at boot time?  I am running Dapper Server.  Thanks.
[03:18] <logikon> joselj: good luck :)
[03:18] <LiENUS> LjL,  linuxl'l do something similar
[03:18] <LiENUS> i think you can access a flopy drive under the "places" menu in ubuntu
[03:18] <starry> Hi all, does anyone know how to change the default player in firefox from Totem to mplayer (or someother player that can handle streaming .wmv files)?
[03:19] <LiENUS> if not there
[03:19] <LjL> pbureau: computers and OS's that actually have floppy detections, such as MacOS and AmigaOS, will actually be able to do things like adding/removing the floppy icon from your desktop as soon as you insert/eject a floppy. that's different.
[03:19] <pbureau> LjL, nope it actually opens a windows as soon as I slide a floppy in (like when you connect a usb device.. kinda cool and rare actually since floppies are.. well mostly unused
[03:19] <thoreauputic> Hansin321: update-rc.d
[03:19] <LiENUS> then in the computer option under the places menu
[03:19] <LiENUS> pbureau, ubuntu auto mounted it?
[03:19] <logikon> starry: type about:config in the address bar
[03:19] <pbureau> dont have a floppy handy...lol give mea minute to track one down to check it (now I am veri curious
[03:19] <LjL> pbureau: that's probably a new feature then, and probably works with certain floppy drives only. i've never experienced that on Windows, and i've used up to XP on several machines
[03:19] <tom47> Pio you could ask in #ubuntu+1
[03:20] <LiENUS> pbureau, neat stuff, been a long time since i've used linux just started again about 6 months ago and have been very impressed with every distro i try...
[03:20] <pbureau> LjL,  autoloading drives (slot on side of laptop no pushing it in.. it grabs and slilde it in auto
[03:20] <Pio> tom47, ah, thanks
[03:20] <aidan> LjL plz help me with codec
[03:20] <LiENUS> used fedora core 5 and now ubuntu
[03:20] <Doc_Bio> hello all
[03:20] <thoreauputic> !codecs| aidan
[03:20] <ubotu> aidan: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:20] <Xerocide> Alright, I am trying to burn the iso at 1x write speed.  There shouldn't be any problems, right?
[03:20] <Doc_Bio> need help making wireless work with edgy eft.
[03:20] <joselj> but i'm some confused... in the beryl installation guide http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_AIGLX says hoy to enable aiglx in Edgy
[03:20] <thoreauputic> Xerocide: theoretically, no :)
[03:20] <LjL> pbureau: ah, that certainly sounds like something different from off-the-shell 10 floppy drives ;-) still, nice to know that Windows has included software support for that.
[03:21] <joselj> but i don't understand why if it is enabled by default
[03:21] <LiENUS> im out
[03:21] <pbureau> LjL, yeah, giveme a minute now I have to test the theory.. and see.. brbr
[03:21] <logikon> joselj: wanna try it in portuguese?
[03:21] <LjL> aidan, do you have universe and multiverse enabled? if not, enable them. then use that long "sudo apt-get install ...." line
[03:21] <joselj> do you mean a portufese guide
[03:21] <logikon> yeah
[03:21] <joselj> sorry portuguese
[03:21] <tom47> Xerocide i usually turn all other programs off b4 i burn such as irc which is just as likely to interrupt a burn at precisely the wrong moment
[03:22] <logikon> or help either
[03:22] <starry> logikon: alright
[03:22] <vivabenfica> hi all
[03:22] <logikon> joselj: try /join #ubuntu-br
[03:22] <Hansin321> How does "sysv-rc-conf" compare to "update-rc.d"?  I know I read somewhere that one did a better job of "tracking" the changes?  Or was that another command?
[03:22] <logikon> hi vivabenfica, you from portugal?
[03:22] <LjL> Hansin321: i don't know, but i don't think update-rc.d tracks much of anything
[03:22] <pbureau> LjL,  nope ... no auto mount on auto-grab-load drive . oh well
[03:22] <vivabenfica> logikon, no, but my wife is
[03:23] <vivabenfica> and i am a big fan
[03:23] <vivabenfica> of benfica
[03:23] <pbureau> LjL, not like I have use this floppy drive in years anyways
[03:23] <LjL> !offtopic
[03:23] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:23] <vivabenfica> sorry for being off topic
[03:23] <joselj> sorry i don't speak portuguese but i speak spanish
[03:23] <kevin_> how good is ubuntu support for tablet pc's?
[03:23] <vivabenfica> anyway
[03:23] <Hansin321> I think update-rc.d is more lower level maybe.  Just curious.  Thanks.
[03:23] <pbureau> joejaxx,  check #ubuntu-sp then
[03:23] <thoreauputic> Hansin321: update-rc.d is pretty basic actually - there is a garphical tool called "bum" boot up manager
[03:23] <catalytic> any tips on where to start installing my onboard soundcard drivers that the ubuntu install cd didnt pick up?
[03:23] <logikon> i'll try the last one.. i'm little tired
[03:24] <tom47> joselj perhaps #ubuntu-es
[03:24] <riotkittie> kevin_: fedex me your tablet and i'll test it and let you know :> heh heh
[03:24] <thoreauputic> Hansin321: but probably not much use on a server :)
[03:24] <startswithz> hello everyone can someone tell me how to set up SDL?
[03:24] <emun> well , this floppy thing and mounting has got me confused, when i open places on ubuntu , i see floppy1, floppy drive, cd-rw, hde3 which is my second partition, filesystem. There is no sign of my first partition which has ubuntu on it
[03:24] <kevin_> haha, riot
[03:24] <LjL> startswithz: define "set up"
[03:24] <Doc_Bio> no one can help me with my wireless question?
[03:24] <pbureau> well time for some R&R,  (clean barn, feed horses, tend to sick wife and possibly 30min-1hr of cod2) cheers mates have a good one
[03:24] <aidan> LjL no idea
[03:24] <startswithz> LjL I need it to work
[03:24] <LjL> emun: right, that's because it's always mounted. it's "filesystem" anyway
[03:25] <joselj> thanks 4tom47 and pbureau
[03:25] <vivabenfica> i want to repartition drive, including partitions that are mounted as part of the system (i have separate partitions for /, /boot, swap, /usr, /tmp, /home, /var. i want to reallocate the space. how can i do this
[03:25] <LjL> startswithz: have you installed it?
[03:25] <startswithz> LjL where do I get it? how do I make it work etc
[03:25] <riotkittie> emun: file system is your ubuntu partition
[03:25] <LjL> !find libsdl | startswithz
[03:25] <ubotu> Found: libsdl-image1.2, libsdl-image1.2-dev, libsdl-mixer1.2, libsdl-mixer1.2-dev, libsdl-ttf2.0-0 (and 28 others)
[03:25] <LjL> startswithz: perhaps it would help if you specified what *program* you need to work with SDL
[03:25] <startswithz> sauerbraten
[03:25] <startswithz> cube 2
[03:25] <emun> Ljl, i see , thank you soo much i get it now
[03:26] <wayward>  /j #ruby
[03:26] <johan__> can i erase the initial user that created ubuntu and create another user with all its rights
[03:26] <startswithz> Ljl I need it for cube 2
[03:26] <Karark|away> i just got a new HDD and want to transfer all to the new HDD, how can i do this?
[03:27] <EvanS> hey, I upgraded to edgy and now I can't seem to get my wireless goinng with my DWL-G650M anymore, i have the drivers loaded into ndiswrapper
[03:27] <cablesm102> johan__, you can create another user with all possible rights, then delete the old one from the new one
[03:27] <LjL> startswithz: try installing libsdl-image1.2, for starters
[03:27] <onlybui> hey is there a bug for the new apple nano 4GB?
[03:27] <johan__> how do i give the rights to new user
[03:27] <carrera594> I believe I read about the "ubuntu install.exe" that it takes drivers from windows and uses it in linux, is this correct?
[03:27] <emun> Ljl, so when i put a floppy disk in the floppy drive , do i right click on it and click mount?
[03:27] <johan__> could you direct me to a howto
[03:27] <LjL> emun, as i said, i don't use GNOME, so i don't really know, but that sounds plausible
[03:27] <threeonefour> Karark|away, man dd
[03:27] <startswithz> ljl thanks I couldn't figure out what the hell to tell apt-get to install
[03:28] <cablesm102> johan__, you can choose all rights when you create the user
[03:28] <wellstevesays> how do i find out my network ip?
[03:28] <johan__> with useradd?
[03:28] <startswithz> ljl ok now it says I need sdl-config
[03:28] <LjL> startswithz: you might need some of the others too, such as -mixer... do an "apt-cache search libsdl-", it'll show them all. you don't need the "-dev" ones, unless you're compiling those games from source
[03:28] <cablesm102> carrera594, no. It just allows one to install Ubuntu without partitioning or burning a CD
[03:28] <johan__> network ip : ifconfig
[03:28] <EvanS> hey, I upgraded to edgy and now I can't seem to get my wireless goinng with my DWL-G650M anymore, i have the drivers loaded into ndiswrapper
[03:29] <EvanS> going*
[03:29] <cablesm102> EvanS, your card is mentioned in this list: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List
[03:29] <onlybui> can anyone tell me if this is my problem https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/66068
[03:29] <stephans> hi -- how do I mount a file system (NTFS) so regular users can see it... ?
[03:29] <carrera594> i know that but i thought i read that during the installion process it would take drivers out to use in ubuntu
[03:29] <EvanS> cablesm102, i already have the drivers loaded into ndiswrapper
[03:29] <threeonefour> Karark|away, dd if=/dev/hda1 of /dev/hdb1
[03:29] <onlybui> my 4GB nano says wrong file system but I checked in windows and it says its in fat32
[03:29] <Karark|away> threeonefour, thanks
[03:30] <threeonefour> Karark|away, something like that
[03:30] <stephans> hi -- how do I mount a file system (NTFS) so regular users can see it... ?
[03:30] <Karark|away> onlybui, try booting ubuntu with the ipod connected
[03:30] <wellstevesays> Anyone know how to find your network IP (ex: 192.168.1.100) in Ubuntu?
[03:30] <aboutblank> wellstevesays: ifconfig in terminal
[03:30] <wellstevesays> that ez?
[03:30] <wellstevesays> eh i feel dumb.
[03:30] <Karark|away> wellstevesays, 68-83-123-99
[03:31] <Karark|away> is ur IP
[03:31] <aboutblank> wellstevesays : it gives output similiar to ipconfig on windows
[03:31] <wellstevesays> Internal IP
[03:31] <wellstevesays> not external Karark
[03:31] <Karark|away> ah, nm
[03:31] <wellstevesays> ipconfig didnt work
[03:31] <wellstevesays> And I never used Windows
[03:31] <aboutblank> mac user?
[03:31] <johan__> ifconfig
[03:31] <thoreauputic> wellstevesays: ifconfig, not ipconfig
[03:31] <wellstevesays> eh :P
[03:31] <johan__> not ipconfig iFconfig
[03:31] <Karark|away> wellstevesays, try going to network manager and looking around
[03:31] <wellstevesays> thx
[03:32] <Doc_Bio> so why can't i install network manager on this computer.?
[03:32] <johan__> i think ipconfig is a doc cmd
[03:32] <johan__> doc=dos
[03:32] <Doc_Bio> centrino laptop...running edgy eft
[03:32] <bobovski> hi all. if I'm using ssh in the terminal, how do I connect so that I'm prompted to enter a user name instead of it defaulting to my localhost login?
[03:32] <Hansin321> thoreauputic: I just downloaded "sysv-rc-conf" from Universe.  It is a ncurses perl script (did I say that right?).  Seems like it will do the trick.  Thanks for the info.
[03:32] <Doc_Bio> i386 install
[03:32] <EvanS> hey, I upgraded to edgy and now I can't seem to get my wireless goinng with my DWL-G650M anymore, i have the drivers loaded into ndiswrapper (it says net5513:hardware present-yes)
[03:32] <wellstevesays> Eh TightVNC doesn't want to let me connect.
[03:32] <bobobo_> ssh username@ipaddress
[03:32] <thoreauputic> Hansin321: cool, enjoy :)
[03:33] <startswithz> ljl it is still unable to find the sdl-config
[03:33] <aboutblank> i have a very strange problem: my time will not stay synchronized between my windows and ubuntu dual boot setup. hours off! when i reset one, the other is wrong. Any idea what's going on?
[03:33] <momo> I need help getting my wireless connection up and running on my laptop after installing ubuntu. Under system/networking i can see a   wireless connection that i have enable and set up with all the security info for my wireless network, but i does not connect, any hint, suggestion, instructions will be great!!!
[03:33] <rotero> I've reconfigured X (dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg), but I don't see all the screen resolutions I enabled in System > Preferences > Screen Resolution.  Is this because I manually set the resolutions but let dpkg-reconfigure autodetect some of the display properties?
[03:33] <ramiro> #mossoro
[03:33] <bobovski> aboutblank: how do the times compare with thte clock in the bios?
[03:34] <LjL> startswithz: then i guess you *are* compiling. install libsdl1.2-dev
[03:34] <aboutblank> bobovski : good question, i'im not sure.
[03:34] <sixpointeight> I NEED URGENT HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:34] <aboutblank> bobovski : does the OS have the power to modify the bios clock?
[03:34] <sid> What is a good rss feed reader for Ubuntu? I have two laptops and a desktop and I often switch back and forth throughout the day, I wanted to easily be able to have my read/unread status of rss feeds to be intact as I switch from one computer to the next.
[03:34] <bobovski> sixpointeight: you sure do...your caps lock is stuck on
[03:34] <sid> Is there any rss feed reader that can do this easily?
[03:34] <LjL> !caps | sixpointeight
[03:34] <ubotu> sixpointeight: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[03:35] <bobovski> aboutblank: I don't think so
[03:35] <momo> hello
[03:35] <rotero> sid:  Why not use Google Reader?
[03:35] <LjL> aboutblank: it sure does
[03:35] <johan__> how would i go about to create a user named say "root" and give that user all the rights
[03:35] <thoreauputic> !caps | sixpointeight
[03:35] <aboutblank> yeah sid that's probably your best route
[03:35] <bobobo_> johan - root is there by default
[03:35] <sixpointeight> my boot image is stuck in klamav quarantine, how o i get it out?
[03:35] <EvanS> hey, I upgraded to edgy and now I can't seem to get my wireless goinng with my DWL-G650M anymore, i have the drivers loaded into ndiswrapper (it says net5513:hardware present-yes), but the lights are still not turning on and i don't know what to do, please help
[03:35] <bobovski> aboutblank: I stand corrected
[03:35] <danf_1979> I need to repartition my disk (remotely) in a dedicated server. The server has one large / partition and swap. I need to generate /tmp /var /usr and /home, is this possible? May I just resize / and then create the other partitions? I ask because / partition will be in use at that time. What should I do ? No one has done this????
[03:35] <startswithz> johan__ why do you want a root account?
[03:35] <sid> rotero: I like using applications on my system. Google has enough peoples information without including mine.
[03:35] <LjL> bobovski, aboutblank: when you change the time in the OS, the change is most certainly retained by the battery clock, and that's the BIOS time
[03:36] <thoreauputic> LjL: you keep doing what I was about to do, and I keep not noticing! Sorry :)
[03:36] <wellstevesays> Anyone have experience with TightVNC? Does it only give you access to Terminal?
[03:36] <johan__> to use ubuntu
[03:36] <aboutblank> wellstevesays : i have experience with vnc. it gives access to a graphical desktop
[03:36] <bobovski> LjL: so the OS has access to the CMOS battery settings, then?
[03:36] <johan__> i have no working user on my box
[03:36] <thoreauputic> wellstevesays: no, it gives full graphical access
[03:36] <startswithz> ljl it is still not giving me the same error message
[03:36] <wellstevesays> I'm only getting a terminal, any clue why?
[03:36] <LjL> bobovski: yes, although i suspect there is a standard BIOS interface that it uses, instead of just poking into the NVRAM
[03:36] <bobobo_> johan - really?  I don't know how to fix that
[03:36] <bobovski> LjL: cool, thanks
[03:37] <sixpointeight> please some on help.
[03:37] <johan__> i want to create a root to have one login that can do everything
[03:37] <EvanS> hey, I upgraded to edgy and now I can't seem to get my wireless goinng with my DWL-G650M anymore, i have the drivers loaded into ndiswrapper (it says net5513:hardware present-yes), but the lights are still not turning on and i don't know what to do, it was working fine on dapper drake, please please help
[03:37] <aboutblank> wellstevesays : basically pipes the screen over the network.
[03:37] <rotero> sid:  Yeah, I hear you.  I felt the same way not too long ago.  I like knowing that the data is on my drive, ready to go.  But Google Reader is pretty darn convenient.  Doesn't matter if I'm at home, at work, somewhere with a laptop.  All the feeds are there and synchronized.
[03:37] <seww> "No DHCPOFFERS received", what is wrong?
[03:37] <bobovski> has anyone else had issues with the power management application wrt laptops?
[03:37] <wellstevesays> aboutblank: I connected but I just get a terminal
[03:37] <LjL> thoreauputic, happens to everyone, at least the bot is smart enough to not repeat anyway ;)=
[03:37] <threeonefour> seww, when do you see this
[03:37] <johan__> if root is there by default what is its password
[03:37] <thoreauputic> LjL: true
[03:37] <aboutblank> wellstevesays : sorry, i'm not sure tbh. brb gotta reboot and check bios clock
[03:37] <bobovski> I want standby on lid close, but it's not working
[03:37] <momo> hell
[03:38] <johan__> can i sudo passwd root
[03:38] <aboutblank> how do you quit bitchx?
[03:38] <aboutblank> oh..
[03:38] <bobovski> hehe
[03:38] <bobovski> looks like he figured it out
[03:38] <seww> threeonefour, when i did ifdown and the ifup
[03:38] <cefx> How can I change from half-duplex to full-duplex in Kubuntu?
[03:38] <bobobo_> johan - I'm not sure about that, but I know you can sudo su
[03:38] <jrib> !root | johan__
[03:38] <thoreauputic> johan__: you can. It's kind of pointless, but you can
[03:38] <ubotu> johan__: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:38] <momo> can someone help me get my wireless connection going on my laptop?????????????????????????????????????
[03:38] <bobobo_> johan - then you could run passwd
[03:38] <calvarez> is it recommended to run beryl over a specific desktop environment? like, is it better to run it along GNOME over KDE or XFCE?
[03:38] <johan__> why is it pointless
[03:38] <EvanS> hey, I upgraded to edgy and now I can't seem to get my wireless goinng with my DWL-G650M anymore, i have the drivers loaded into ndiswrapper (it says net5513:hardware present-yes), but the lights are still not turning on and i don't know what to do, it was working fine on dapper drake, please please help, i've been in here for 10 minutes and nobody has acknowledged my existence
[03:38] <threeonefour> seww, are you connected to a router
[03:38] <LjL> startswithz, then i'm stuck. i can positively say that sdl-config *is* found in libsdl1.2-dev
[03:38] <seww> threeonefour, yes.
[03:38] <sixpointeight> can someone tell me how to get my boot image out of quarantine, i have been in this room and sked this question several times.
[03:38] <Toma-> calvarez: yes
[03:38] <thoreauputic> momo: a few less question marks, please - we saw the first one
[03:39] <momo> sorry
[03:39] <bobovski> EvanS: I wish I could help, I just got wireless running in dapper and it was out of the box easy :(
[03:39] <thoreauputic> johan__: because you can do everything with sudo and sudo -i
[03:39] <calvarez> Toma-, can you expand? Is it better to run it over GNOME, over other desktop environments?
[03:39] <threeonefour> seww, try to uplugg the power for 10 seconds then plug it back it   then it should work
[03:39] <rotero> Does anyone know why reconfiguring X would cause Amarok's tray icon to stop working (i.e. not appear)?  It's enabled in the prefs, but still doesn't show up.
[03:39] <thoreauputic> johan__: and gksudo
[03:40] <seww> threeonefour, are you serious? if you are, unplug the comp or router?
[03:40] <danny> Help! I'm totally new to linux and I'm running Kubuntu. My monitor resolution is stuck at 640 x 480 and I can't change it. When I first installed Ubuntu it had me set at a much higher resolution, but then I changed it and now I can't change it again.
[03:40] <bobovski> rotero: have you apt-get removed and reinstalled amarok?
[03:40] <Toma-> calvarez: since it uses more resources, id recommend something like XFCE. BUT having said that, most PC's can handle gnome + beryl! Do you have a recent PC?
[03:40] <threeonefour> seww, i am serious  just the router
[03:40] <EvanS> bobovski: :(. well, under network settings i can even only see modem connection under the connections tab
[03:40] <seww> threeonefour, ok
[03:40] <seww> threeonefour, thanks.
[03:40] <EvanS> i can't see an eth0 or wlan0
[03:40] <threeonefour> np
[03:40] <bobovski> EvanS: then the card isn't being recognized, check the wiki for solutions
[03:41] <Vigo> danny: Have you searched the Forums?
[03:41] <rotero> bobovski:  Nope, not yet.  I'll try.
[03:41] <danny> I have searched the forums and that has not helped.
[03:41] <bobovski> EvanS: what chipset is the wireless card is it minipci or an external card?
[03:41] <BoredTurkishGuy> gusy i cant get this beryl manager work on edgy
[03:41] <BoredTurkishGuy> AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'Backends'
[03:41] <BoredTurkishGuy> 
[03:41] <calvarez> Toma-, Pentium M 2Ghz, 1Gb RAM, GeForce Go FX 5600
[03:41] <BoredTurkishGuy> says
[03:41] <EvanS> bobovski: it worked fine in dapper drake, why not anymore? :(
[03:41] <calvarez> I think it should run fine, shouldn't it?
[03:41] <Toma-> calvarez: yeh that'll be fine.
[03:41] <bobovski> EvanS:dunno, I haven't moved to edgy yet
[03:41] <sid> rotero: But I want to be able to read the feeds offline.
[03:42] <EvanS> bobovski: it is a pcmia card
[03:42] <Toma-> calvarez: better yet, make 2 beryl launchers, one for xfce and one for gnome and give them both a run
[03:42] <calvarez> Toma-, does beryl favor a GNOME installation?
[03:42] <bobovski> EvanS: what brand etc?
[03:42] <sid> ie I can fire up my laptop grab feeds with liferea then jump in the car and read them without an Internet connection.
[03:42] <sid> all that ajax crap won't let me do that.
[03:42] <johan__> thats my problem sudo onlu works with the initial user not with the new i created
[03:42] <EvanS> D-Link DWL-G650M
[03:42] <calvarez> I'm not so much for XFCE atm, I'm more like in between KDE or GNOME
[03:42] <Toma-> calvarez: it favors kde, xfce and gnome. as they all have modular window managers
[03:42] <johan__> i did useradd -m bob
[03:42] <onlybui> can anyone tell me if my nano is setup for raid? so I can apply a bug fix?
[03:42] <bobovski> EvanS: have you chacked the wiki?
[03:42] <onlybui> I get this error msg when I try to connect my nano mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdc,
[03:42] <onlybui>        missing codepage or other error
[03:42] <onlybui>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[03:42] <onlybui>        dmesg | tail  or so
[03:42] <EvanS> the ndiswrapper wiki yes
[03:42] <onlybui> if you have a nvidia card just use nviida-settings
[03:43] <ramiro> como fao pra entrar num canal do rn
[03:43] <rotero> sid:  You're right.  Unfortunately, I don't have any suggestions.  I'm sure someone must be doing that, though.
[03:43] <johan__> how come the user i create cant use sudo
[03:43] <BoredTurkishGuy> AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'Backends'
[03:43] <BoredTurkishGuy>  what is this error for guys..
[03:43] <ramiro> alguem sabe
[03:43] <johan__> i do sudo and it says password incorrect
[03:43] <ramiro> pode me falar
[03:43] <sid> johan__: groups user; groups yourusername;
[03:43] <calvarez> ramiro, rn?
[03:43] <thoreauputic> johan__: because only the first user is in admin group by default
[03:43] <ramiro> isso
[03:43] <johan__> i see thaks
[03:43] <calvarez> ramiro, eu falo espanol, que es rn?
[03:43] <EvanS> bobovski: i added the driver that it told me to in the ndiswrapper wiki
[03:43] <seww> "No DHCPOFFERS received", what is wrong?
[03:43] <tonyyarusso> !br | ramiro
[03:43] <ubotu> ramiro: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[03:44] <thoreauputic> johan__: you can add other users to "admin"
[03:44] <ramiro> Rio grando do norte
[03:44] <ramiro> como fao
[03:44] <MajorPayne> Where is the proper place to put system wide path variables in Ubuntu?
[03:44] <Broam> Hello #ubuntu.
[03:44] <calvarez> ramiro, go to #ubuntu-br
[03:44] <calvarez> ramiro, /join #ubuntu-br
[03:44] <Toma-> MajorPayne: /etc/bashrc or something?
[03:44] <jrib> MajorPayne: /etc/environment
[03:44] <calvarez> y pregunte ahi
[03:45] <vir1980> Hola, que tal estan mi nombre Luis Monzon
[03:46] <thoreauputic> ######## News Flash###### this is an english channel
[03:46] <Broam> !es
[03:46] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:46] <ramiro> vlw velho
[03:46] <bobovski> EvanS: it's not the one where you have to also have the win .sys file as well is it?
[03:46] <DCR|> What is "Round to Cylinders" mean?
[03:46] <DCR|> When partitioning
[03:46] <ramiro> tu entende perfeito o portugues ne?
[03:46] <vir1980> gracias
[03:46] <Broam> vir1980: de nada
[03:46] <Vigo> !vir1980|es
[03:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vir1980 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:46] <EvanS> bobovski: nope,
[03:46] <MajorPayne> jrib: Ahh, thanks, I couldn't find it in all the other places I normally look.
[03:46] <Vigo> whoops
[03:47] <bobovski> er, the inf file, but whatever
[03:47] <Broam> DCR|:  it involves using the hard drive's physical characteristics to determine partition size. Yes, that's a bit of a cop-out ;)
[03:47] <PORDO> anyone know how i could record the audio from a flash app?
[03:47] <Vigo> !es
[03:47] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:47] <DCR|> So leave it checked?
[03:47] <Broam> DCR|: I usually do
[03:47] <DCR|> Ok
[03:47] <Broam> DCR|: I think things are a bit faster, but the mind is clouded. I could look at the help file, I do remember it being explained in there
[03:48] <EvanS> bobovski: when i try to install the sys file it says invalid inf file :O
[03:48] <johan__> what is the primary group of default user
[03:48] <bobovski> EvanS: what was the chipsety again?
[03:48] <rotero> bobovski:  Is it sufficient to use Synaptic to uninstall/reinstall Amarok?
[03:48] <icebird> If you download source code for a program to your desktop and then do ./configure make and make install are you then able to delete the folder that contained the source code that is on the desktop
[03:48] <johan__> should it be admin or the user itself
[03:48] <bobovski> rotero: yeah, synaptic is just a gui for apt-get as far as I know
[03:48] <EvanS> D-Link DWL-G650M
[03:48] <thoreauputic> icebird: yes
[03:48] <bobovski> EvanS: do an lspci - | less
[03:48] <rotero> bobovski:  Great.  Thanks.
[03:49] <Xerocide> Alright, I just tryed rewriting the iso to the cd, it didn't work again.  What else should I try?
[03:49] <Broam> DCR|: I just installed dapper recently, hence why I'm sure it's in there
[03:49] <Broam> Xerocide: Did you try the instructions on the wiki to verify, or do you know it failed? (sorry, just got here)
[03:49] <kitche> icebird: yes  but you won't be bale to uninstall the application if you want to
[03:49] <bobovski> EvanS: apparently those cards come with a few chipsets, each of which has different requirements
[03:49] <thoreauputic> Xerocide: are you sure your burner is OK ? :)
[03:49] <icebird> when i try to delte it will say that certain files can not be deleted because i don't have permission
[03:49] <wellstevesays> Can anyone help me with TightVNC?
[03:49] <DCR|> Also, this is weird, I'm creating a new partinion, and it says: Minumun size: 8mb Maximun size: 8mb
[03:50] <Broam> Xerocide: I once burned 3 dapper CD's to try to solve a kernel panic on install
[03:50] <thoreauputic> icebird: use sudo
[03:50] <EvanS> bobovski: i tried that and then it freaked my terminal out, and now it just says (END) in the spot where im supposed to type
[03:50] <Broam> Xerocide: all 3 were fine.  The CD-ROM drive was busted
[03:50] <nofxx> anyone know how can I configure a BROADCOM NIC????
[03:51] <bobovski> EvanS: what if you jsut do lspci?
[03:51] <Xerocide> It booted, but everytime I click start/install or "check for defects" it just restarts
[03:51] <Xerocide> [my computer] 
[03:51] <SurfnKid> hello how can i execute a command to check the DVD ISO was burned correctly with the MD5?
[03:51] <Broam> xerocide: hmm
[03:51] <Broam> xerocide:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[03:51] <jrib> !verify | SurfnKid
[03:51] <ubotu> SurfnKid: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[03:51] <nofxx> the broadcom site says they maintain linux drivers.... but ubuntu is not recognizing the NIC.....  Broadcom AC131 10/100 Lan Phy
[03:51] <Broam> Xerocide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/CDIntegrityCheck
[03:51] <EvanS> bobovski: if i just do lspci, it gi ves me info like host bridge cardbus bridge ide interface ethernet controller etc
[03:52] <DCR|> Also, this is weird, I'm creating a new partition, and it says: Minimum size: 8mb Maximum size: 8mb, This is definelty not right
[03:52] <Broam> DCR|: all of your other space is probably partitioned. What's your drive like?
[03:52] <cld2> can anyone tell me the underlying files that are used to select your windows manager using ubuntu? Ive installed a WM via apt and its not showing up in the gdm selection option. thanks.
[03:52] <DCR|> Whats my drive like? As in?
[03:52] <thomrei>  /who liesl
[03:52] <bobovski> EvanS: what does Ethernet controller say?
[03:53] <Vigo_> I go now, Thank you kindly, cheers :-)
[03:53] <Broam> Xerocide: The CD integrity check page...um, it used to have a command you piped through grep.  I'll see if I can find it
[03:53] <icebird> why is it that every one always says to use sudo instead of su
[03:53] <Broam> DCR|:  how big?
[03:53] <b08y> !WM| cld2
[03:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about WM - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:53] <blanky_> where do I go to install a new splashscreen?
[03:53] <blanky_> for gnome
[03:53] <DCR|> It says NTFS: size: 74.6gb
[03:53] <Xerocide> Yeah, whenever I try to run the integrity check, it does a little loading and it says something about kernel something and then my computer retstarts.
[03:53] <EvanS> bobovski: it says Atheros Communications Inc. AR5005VL 802.11bg wireless NIC (rev 101)
[03:53] <blanky_> anyone?
[03:53] <cld2> icebird: it makes you think about what you are doing each and every time you want to do something as root, and by default the root account has no password (disabled) so su would not work
[03:53] <Broam> Xerocide: Okay, so it says "loading vmlinuz" or something like that?
[03:53] <blanky_> How do I install/set a splashscreen in gnome?
[03:54] <bobovski> EvanS: so that's the chipset your card has
[03:54] <vladuz976> can I somehow convert mov audio files to mp3?
[03:54] <SurfnKid> hello how can i execute a command to check the DVD ISO was burned correctly with the MD5?
[03:54] <Xerocide> Yeah
[03:54] <Broam> DCR|: NTFS, 74GB...looks like you have a windows install (you knew that. I didn't)
[03:54] <DCR|> Do I create the partition on "unallocated"
[03:54] <pppoe_dude> SurfnKid, you can't
[03:54] <DCR|> Yes of course
[03:54] <EvanS> oh i was telling you the name of my wifi card then
[03:54] <rotero> icebird:  I think su is like a virtual login as that user whereas sudo gives you root privleges for just the following command.
[03:54] <pppoe_dude> SurfnKid, is it an ubuntu CD?
[03:54] <jrib> !splash | blanky_
[03:54] <ubotu> blanky_: To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[03:54] <DCR|> I'm doing this because I want to dual boot with widnows and ubuntu
[03:54] <mbirkis> is feisty getting along nicely? i am thinking of testing it, will i get much trouble?
[03:54] <Broam> DCR|: yes, except that your NTFS partition is on your entire drive.  You may need to resize your NTFS partition
[03:54] <icebird> is it a bad thing to enable the root account
[03:54] <DCR|> But I'm not very good at the whole partinion
[03:55] <pppoe_dude> SurfnKid, only way i can think of is to convert it back to an iso and do an md5... but that might also not be accurate
[03:55] <Broam> DCR|: gparted should be able to resize it, with an option to cancel before you do any permanent changes
[03:55] <Broam> pppoe_dude: there is a way, but I have to find it in my bash history
[03:55] <thoreauputic> !root| icebird
[03:55] <ubotu> icebird: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:55] <blanky_> !gnome-splashscreen-manager
[03:55] <ubotu> gnome-splashscreen-manager: manage your GNOME splash screen images. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2-3 (edgy), package size 14 kB, installed size 152 kB
[03:55] <DCR|> So when I click resize, what do I out?
[03:55] <pppoe_dude> Broam, to get an md5sum equivalent to that of the iso?
[03:55] <pppoe_dude> Broam, interesting
[03:55] <Broam> cd /media/cdrom
[03:55] <Broam> or something, mine's CD recorder
[03:56] <Broam> md5sum -c md5sum.txt | grep -v 'OK$'
[03:56] <Xerocide> Well, thank you all for the help.  I am gonna try again tomorrow and see if I have any luck.  Thanks anyway.
[03:56] <Broam> if the command returns *anything* it fails
[03:56] <bobovski> EvanS: so, at least ubuntu sees the card, it just doesn't know what drivers to use
[03:56] <Broam> if you leave out the grep, it shows you checking every file 1 by 1, with OK at the end
[03:56] <seww_> "No DHCPOFFERS received", what is wrong?
[03:56] <EvanS> bobovski: how can it not? i installed them through ubuntu
[03:57] <Broam> Xerocide: Sorry I wasn't more help. I'd probably assume that something in your computer doesn't like how linux boots. Try turning off any "virus protection" setting in the BIOS?
[03:57] <Broam> seww_: Your ethernet card isn't getting any response from your network. aRe you using a router?
[03:57] <seww_> Broam, yes i am.
[03:57] <DCR|> Do I leave "New size" which is in 76309 (MB) like that and increase "Free Space following by (MB)"?
[03:57] <bobovski> EvanS: I had a card that wasn't being seen by the PCI bus. It sucked. Anyway, have you run iwconfig?
[03:57] <Broam> seww: do you have other machines able to get DHCP offers?
[03:58] <seww_> Broam, yes the one im sitting on right now is on the same network, except on XP
[03:58] <jvai> hey peeps i'm ghost
[03:58] <seww_> so i guess no.
[03:58] <EvanS> bobovski: iwconfig says lo- no wireless extensions, and sit0- no wireless extensions
[03:58] <Broam> DCR|: I would lower the new size by about 5-10 GB if you can spare it
[03:58] <ardchoille42> How do I get the exact size of a directory?
[03:58] <Broam> seww_: well obviously it works...
[03:58] <Broam> seww_:  know what network card you're using in the box that can't see the network?
[03:58] <seww_> Broam, yes the card is lit up in the back
[03:58] <Broam> seww_: and what kind of router is it?
[03:59] <Broam> seww_: was referring to your XP machine, since you happen to be talking to me. :)  glad the cable works, that's another point of failure taken care of.
[03:59] <bobovski> EvanS: hurm. I'm out of my league then. I guess look through the forms for your card name, the appropriate chipset and edgy. Also, make sure you have the right drivers for your specific chipset as far as the wiki can tell you
[03:59] <seww_> Broam, its a linksys router, linksys card WMP54G v.4.1 with a RT61 chipset.
[03:59] <bobovski> EvanS: sorry, forums
[03:59] <seww_> Broam, this system is a laptop on wireless to the same network.
[03:59] <Broam> seww_: are you using a cable on the box that can't see anything?
[03:59] <EvanS> nooo, not the forbidden wastelands
[03:59] <bobovski> EvanS: hehe
[03:59] <Broam> seww_: ok.  Does it connect in another OS?
[03:59] <seww_> Broam, no its not connected at all except for wlan
[03:59] <EvanS> thanks a ton anyway bobovski it means a lot to be paid attention to
[03:59] <seww_> Broam, yes in XP
[04:00] <Xenguy> ardchoille42: df -k .
[04:00] <sid> SurfnKid: md5sum /dev/hdc; md5sum file.iso;
[04:00] <Xenguy> ardchoille42: sorry du -k .
[04:00] <Xenguy> ardchoille42: if you're in the dir
[04:00] <sid> pppoe_dude: sure you can.
[04:00] <DCR|> Broam: When you mean lower you mean put like 10gb on "Free Space"?
[04:00] <Broam> seww: that rules out MAC filters and the like
[04:00] <seww_> ok
[04:00] <bobovski> EvanS: good luck. you should report how you got it working when you do
[04:00] <Broam> DCR|:  yes.  You're going to use that new free space to make an EXT3 partition
[04:00] <seww_> Broam, yeah i wanna beat it up too but then i need a 50ft cable instead
[04:00] <EvanS> ok much thanks
[04:00] <bobovski> EvanS: it's probably using the right wrapper
[04:00] <conn> hi, I accidentally deleted /etc/samba/smb.conf, how do I regenerate it?
[04:00] <pppoe_dude> sid, with one command and/or without having to recreate the iso image from the CD?
[04:01] <Broam> seww_: What kinda wireless card are you using?
[04:01] <seww_> Broam, its a linksys wpm54G v.4.1
[04:01] <Broam> sid, pppoe_dude: the md5sums.txt (or whatever it is on the CD) is md5's of every other file on the CD
[04:01] <sid> pppoe_dude: He can just download MD5SUMS from the place he got the .iso file if he already deleted it from his hard disk. It's only a few kb
[04:01] <pppoe_dude> Broam, oh ok gotcha
[04:02] <Broam> seww_: Hmm. (Oh, I thought you were referring for the router).  if you run iwconfig, do you get an interface?
[04:02] <pppoe_dude> i didn't know every iso had an md5sum of each file
[04:02] <J-_> is there anuthing better than thunderbird/evolution I can use, if not, which one should I use?
[04:02] <seww_> Broam, yes i get two, wmaster0 and wlan0
[04:02] <Broam> seww:_ a good sign, generally.  Are you using WPA/WEP or anything on the network?
[04:02] <seww_> Broam, we are using WEP
[04:03] <Broam> seww_: Hmm.
[04:03] <seww_> Broam, yes its a bitch
[04:03] <Broam> seww_: does the machine connect if you disable WEP? I understand that's not a permanent fix
[04:03] <vladuz976> how can I get the audio from a dvd to mp3 ?
[04:03] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | seww_
[04:03] <ubotu> seww_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:03] <seww_> Broam, i haven't tried that since there are 12 other ppl on the network
[04:03] <seww_> oh please
[04:03] <Broam> seww_: understandable
[04:03] <seww_> okok
[04:04] <elcasey> bloody families
[04:04] <Broam> Hey, I understand it's frustrating. Don't take it personally
[04:04] <seww_> Broam, so yes. and how to get around this, i dont know.
[04:04] <elcasey> :P
[04:04] <seww_> no its cool
[04:04] <Broam> seww_: thinking...
[04:04] <Broam> I'm thinking that WEP keys may be inputted differently on *nix than in Windows, but I'm getting a teense out of my league here
[04:04] <Broam> seww_: are you putting it in as a passphrase, or hex?
[04:05] <seww_> Broam, think its a passphrase
[04:05] <DCR|> Broam: Do I create a new partinion, or use unallocated which is on 6gb?
[04:05] <seww_> hold on
[04:05] <Broam> DCR|: you can't use unallocated space, so make a new one using that
[04:05] <seww_> Broam, its  10 hex
[04:05] <ardchoille42> Xenguy, Thank you :)
[04:06] <SurfnKid> sid: thx sorry was on the phone
[04:06] <seww_> Broam, no passphrase
[04:06] <adamonline45> The last 3 programs I've tried to uninstall have failed...  Is there something wrong with using "apt-get remove <program>"?
[04:06] <DCR|> Broam: What do you recommenc I should fill out making a new partition using unallocated?
[04:07] <Broam> DCR|: EXT3, take up the whole space. If you want to get fancy, leave some for a swap partition, but you can always make a swap file
[04:07] <juano> adamonline45: how about using dpkg -r packagename
[04:07] <juano> Broam: how do you make a swap file ?
[04:07] <juano> Broam: never tried that one before
[04:07] <Broam> seww_: Hmm. I'm trying to think here, I'd start looking in the forums, there might be someone who's done this before.  I have not
[04:08] <DCR|> !EXT3
[04:08] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[04:08] <Broam> juano: looking it up...supposedly it's just as fast as a partition, but I've never done it
[04:08] <Broam> !swap
[04:08] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[04:08] <juano> Broam: ahh :-) thanks
[04:08] <seww_> Broam, i've looked all day and tried everything i can find... had to reinstall ubuntu a few hours ago
[04:08] <Baddox> Would you recommend installing beryl with XGL or AIGLX?
[04:08] <Broam> juano: that SwapFaq has the answer
[04:08] <Broam> seww_: ugh. Trying to think
[04:08] <juano> Broam: great ill have a look :)
[04:08] <juano> Broam: thx
[04:09] <seww_> Broam, yeah its cool, thx
[04:09] <Broam> seww_:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CrackingWEP
[04:09] <Broam> that's the only WEP link I can find on the wiki
[04:09] <DCR|> Broam: My maximun size is 7000MB, how much should I use? the whole thing?
[04:09] <Broam> and I do have a taste for irony
[04:09] <Xenguy> ardchoille42: yw
[04:10] <seww_> Broam, i have the WEP key. i know what it is
[04:10] <Broam> DCR|: That works, yes.  You could leave 512MB for Swap, but you can always add a swap file later if you think that might be too difficult
[04:10] <Broam> seww_; I know. I just find that hilarious.  :)
[04:10] <seww_> Broam, uhm ok
[04:10] <Pelo> what is a WEP key ?
[04:10] <adamonline45> juano: Thanks, but that doesn't work either.  It's like the uninstalls fail, the programs stop working, and there's still remnants =/
[04:11] <Broam> seww_: http://mediakey.dk/~cc/howto-use-wep-encryption-with-ubuntu-linux/
[04:11] <DCR|> Broam: Filesystem should be linux-swap?
[04:11] <Broam> Pelo: Wired Equivalent Privacy
[04:11] <Broam> DCR: not on the big partition
[04:11] <juano> adamonline45: mm.. are you sudoing it
[04:11] <Broam> Pelo: of course, it's really not...
[04:11] <juano> adamonline45: ?
[04:11] <hubo> Pelo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wired_Equivalent_Privacy
[04:11] <Broam> DCR: just for now, set up one big ext3 partition.
[04:11] <DCR|> Ok
[04:12] <Broam> DCR|: If I'm going above your head, don't hestitate to ask me to explain something. I'm moving quite fast here. :)
[04:12] <adamonline45> juano: I'm root...
[04:12] <DCR|> Hehe, I can see
[04:12] <Broam> seww_: I think the easy way is a bit of a cop-out
[04:12] <DCR|> Thanks a lot
[04:12] <juano> adamonline45: ok
[04:12] <Pelo> could one setup the home folder on a different drive just by making a symlink ?
[04:12] <juano> adamonline45: and what error do you get while uninstalling a package ?
[04:12] <seww_> Broam, cant even do it the easy way. not connected with that machine
[04:12] <LiENUS> Pelo,
[04:12] <Bugz__> Is there a way I can restore my ubuntu to an earlier time?
[04:12] <LiENUS> you can mount a different drive to home
[04:13] <Broam> Pelo: You might be able to do some work in /etc/fstab
[04:13] <LiENUS> thats the preffered way
[04:13] <seww_> and iwconfig wlan0 up didn't even work
[04:13] <Broam> seww_: hmm.
[04:13] <Pelo> I was just wondering how it was done,  thanks LiENUS  and Broam
[04:13] <LiENUS> for suspend to work do i need more swap than i have ram or something?
[04:13] <hubo> Pelo: ln -s /different/disk /home/pelo
[04:13] <Bugz__> Broam is that for me?
[04:13] <seww_> Broam, and i got a "No DHCPOFFERS received"
[04:14] <adamonline45> juano: usually something like "script returned error exit status 1"
[04:14] <Broam> bugz_ No., the partition thing was for DCF|; I should stop using /me
[04:14] <Bugz__> lol
[04:14] <Bugz__> indeed
[04:14] <Pelo> thanks hubo  I was just wondering IF
[04:14] <Bugz__> quite confusing..
[04:14] <juano> adamonline45: mm strange, i have never experienced that error, have you searched this in google?
[04:14] <po0f> LiENUS: Yes, for hibernate/suspend-to-disk, swap should _at least_ equal RAM.
[04:14] <DCR|> So in short here's what I'm doing:
[04:14] <Broam> seww_: Hmm.  I wonder if your router reports connection attempts
[04:14] <DCR|> Resize /dev/hda1 from 76309 to 69317
[04:14] <DCR|> create primary partinio #1 (ext3, 7000mb) on dev/hda
[04:14] <DCR|> Is this right?
[04:14] <seww_> Broam good question
[04:15] <Broam> DCR: looks good so far.  You're shrinking your Windows Partition (called hda1 here) and adding another partition for Ubuntu
[04:15] <LiENUS> po0f, there should be a warning in the install
[04:15] <LiENUS> i have 512mb swap and 1 gig ram :/
[04:15] <DCR|> Yeah, thanks
[04:15] <Broam> LiENUS: :(
[04:15] <LiENUS> i figured since i had 1 gig of ram i didnt need copious amounts of swap
[04:15] <LiENUS> hd is only 20 gig :/
[04:15] <rafase282> hello
[04:15] <LiENUS> wonder if parted can shrink xfs...
[04:15] <Broam> seww_: there's also wifi-radar in universe
[04:15] <Bugz__> Is there a way I can restore my ubuntu to an earlier time?
[04:16] <zapd0s> Hi, how would you uninstall a DEB from your system?
[04:16] <Bugz__> or some sort of point..
[04:16] <seww_> Broam, can i get it without a connection?
[04:16] <Broam> Bugz__:  like how?  Did you update something?
[04:16] <Broam> seww_: it's universe, so it's not on the CD
[04:16] <adamonline45> juano: Basically, here's the whole rundown...  I installed a LAMP server, decided I wanted thttpd instead of apache, uninstalled apache - got an error, and am riddled with apache files still.  Then I uninstalled thttpd to make way for the latest version (which I had to compile myself, way over my head ;) and now I still have 'thttpd' files everywhere! =O
[04:16] <Bugz__> I screwed my video drivers up
[04:16] <Broam> seww_: network mangler (ahem manager) might be in main
[04:16] <seww_> Broam, so i cannot get it
[04:16] <hubo> zapd0s: apt-get remove (--purge) packet.deb
[04:16] <Bugz__> Ubuntu boots up, but the login screen is black
[04:16] <seww_> Broam, already checked, its not
[04:16] <Broam> seww_: not without 50-ft cable
[04:16] <seww_> Broam, exactly
[04:16] <rafase282> is there a didtribution of Linux that can be run in USB
[04:17] <Bugz__> or somehow switch back to default settings/drivers..
[04:17] <Bugz__> or something
[04:17] <adamonline45> juano: I've not googled, I supposed this may be a common thing... I'll do that :)
[04:17] <Broam> rafase282: DSL can survive in CompactFlash
[04:17] <EvanS> is there a command for me to downgrade back to drake?
[04:17] <Broam> bugz__:  This might be a bit overkill
[04:17] <Bugz__> cuz I was using a program that my friend put on ubuntu that automaticly downloads and installs things for me called Automatix
[04:17] <wellstevesays> Can anyone explain why I get this screen (http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/8959/picture1aq6.png) when I connect to my VNC
[04:17] <Bugz__> and it did something with my VGA driver
[04:17] <Broam> Bugz__: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:17] <rafase282> I want to have Linux in my USB with graphic interfase
[04:18] <thoreauputic> !automatix
[04:18] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:18] <Bugz__> Broam.. can you explain what that would do?
[04:18] <Bugz__> oh crudd..
[04:18] <Broam> Bugz__: It runs through a script that allows you to regenerate your xorg.conf file
[04:18] <juano> adamonline45: mmm yea, you can find / -name "lamp*" try to erase those, or if you did this from source, try a make uninstall in make point
[04:18] <seww_> Broam, so what do you think?
[04:18] <Bugz__> :(
[04:18] <EvanS> is there a command for me to downgrade back to drake? anyone??
[04:18] <Broam> Bugz__:  It backs it up, though
[04:18] <Bugz__> yay
[04:18] <thoreauputic> EvanS: no really
[04:18] <Broam> Bugz__: you may get lucky and find you don't need to do that, because whatever installed your video drivers
[04:18] <thoreauputic> EvanS: I mean "not really"
[04:18] <Broam> Bugz__: ALREADY made a backup
[04:19] <Bugz__> I hope so.
[04:19] <Bugz__> ill try that command you gave me in safe mode
[04:19] <Broam> Bugz__:  open a terminal.  Go to /etc/X11
[04:19] <Bugz__> hopefuly it will do the trick
[04:19] <Broam> Bugz__:  and type ls
[04:19] <EvanS> thoreauputic: so can you help me get my wifi working again? :P
[04:19] <Broam> Bugz__: If you see 'xorg.conf.092387509872305' or something you have backups
[04:19] <Bugz__> well I cant get into terminal.. I cant get into anything.. but I can use safe mode
[04:19] <adamonline45> juano: anyway, trying to uninstall apache now says the program doesn't exist, and trying to uninstall thttpd will enter uninstall but exit 1...  Alright, I think I'll do that.
[04:19] <thoreauputic> EvanS: downgrading would be a recipe for pain and suffering and dependency hell
[04:19] <Broam> seww_: can you connect to any other wireless networks in the area?
[04:20] <Bugz__> or recovery mode ***
[04:20] <Broam> Bugz__: you mean the recovery mode?
[04:20] <Broam> Bugz__:  Yeah, you can do it in there
[04:20] <seww_> Broam, i can with XP. but they are all WEP encrypted
[04:20] <juano> adamonline45: usually from source a make uninstall cleans out the files and uninstalls properly
[04:20] <Bugz__> ok
[04:20] <Broam> seww_:  ugh, thinking...
[04:20] <Broam> Bugz__:  Here's a tip
[04:20] <coach_z> hello, my c2d processor is only recognized as one processor...i have installed the 64bit version but cant figure out how to get it to recognize the second core
[04:20] <EvanS> yeah, but my wifi worked in dapper drake and i haven't been able to get it working since upgrading =(
[04:20] <Broam> Bugz__:  When you're done with recovery mode, type EXIT
[04:20] <thoreauputic> EvanS: ncm43xx ? Do you know about cafuego's repos for firmware ?
[04:20] <thoreauputic> um bcm*
[04:20] <Broam> Bugz__: you'll do some more booting and pop into normal mode
[04:20] <seww_> Broam, except for one net i think
[04:21] <adamonline45> juano alright, I'll try that for the thttpd I just tried to install without uninstalling the previous version successfully first =)  hehheh...
[04:21] <EvanS> thoreauputic: no idea what what you said means, so i guess i don't, lol
[04:21] <seww_> Broam, yeah there's one unsecure
[04:21] <Broam> seww_: Give it a shot, I guess.
[04:21] <juano> adamonline45: heh , sure
[04:21] <EvanS> the only word i caught was firmware
[04:21] <seww_> Broam, ok
[04:21] <adamonline45> juano: thanks for the help...
[04:21] <Broam> Bugz__: to test to see if your reconfigure worked, type "startx"
[04:21] <juano> adamonline45: no problem :-), anytime
[04:21] <eieiu> anyone know how to search for multiple items in the craigslist search?
[04:21] <Broam> Bugz__: but ONLY do that in recovery mode.  GDM handles starting X for you
[04:21] <thoreauputic> EvanS: you have bcm43xx right?
[04:22] <EvanS> thoreau: what is bcm43xx?
[04:22] <Broam> DCR|: how's the partition going?
[04:22] <hubo> mounting nfs with 6.06 causes nautils to freeze if server is down. what mount -t nfs options would you recommend?
[04:22] <Bugz__> Broam.. ok slow things down a bit.. I see the xorg.conf_back_numbers
[04:22] <Bugz__> now what?
[04:22] <Broam> Bugz__: Good.
[04:22] <Broam> Bugz__:  the numbers will be dates and times.  Find the most recent one
[04:22] <thoreauputic> EvanS: broadcom wifi card driver
[04:22] <Bugz__> theres only one
[04:22] <task0> hello all, how can i change the default date format to DD/MM/YYYY ????????
[04:23] <Broam> seww_:  if the unsecure works, even a little bit, it's a WEP issue.  If not, it's the wificard
[04:23] <EvanS> thoreau: how can i tell whether i have it or not?
[04:23] <Broam> task0: I think that's locale settings
[04:23] <thoreauputic> EvanS: maybe I confused you with someone else
[04:23] <Broam> !locale
[04:23] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[04:23] <seww_> Broam, hmmm ok...
[04:23] <dallingham> I'm having a problem with a qlogic fibre channel card. I get a message that the firmware cannot be loaded (/lib/firmware/qla2400_fw.bin), but the file exists.  Any suggestions on how to resolve this?
[04:23] <thoreauputic> EvanS: what card are you using ?
[04:23] <task0> Broam, will look
[04:23] <EvanS> i'm using a d link DWL-G650M
[04:23] <LiENUS> dallingham, you sure you have valid firmware?
[04:23] <Broam> task0: Someday I'm going to swap to ISO 8601 :)
[04:23] <DCR|> Broam: I need you here
[04:23] <Broam> seww_: I think I need to hit google. Hard
[04:23] <dallingham> It was what shipped with the 6.10 kernel
[04:24] <DCR|> :P
[04:24] <Broam> DCR|: I'm listening
[04:24] <thoreauputic> EvanS: ah, sorry - someone else had problems with the Broadcom card
[04:24] <coach_z> can someone help me get ubuntu to recognize the second core on my Core 2 Duo?
[04:24] <Bugz__> everybody needs Broam.. he's like.. helping 10 people at once..
[04:24] <seww_> Broam, haha gl
[04:24] <Bugz__> lmao thats what I call multi-tasking!
[04:24] <EvanS> thoreau: does this mean you can't help me? :\
[04:24] <Broam> I'll do my best, until my girlfriend comes over and starts kissing me
[04:24] <Broam> then you're all in trouble. :P
[04:24] <Bugz__> LMAO!
[04:24] <LiENUS> dallingham,  generally kernels dont ship with firmware...
[04:24] <thoreauputic> EvanS: probably :)
[04:24] <Bugz__> will we see you again Broam?
[04:24] <Bugz__> your excellent help
[04:24] <Broam> I hope!
[04:24] <LiENUS> hence the loading from /lib/firmware
[04:25] <thoreauputic> EvanS: what is the problem? What are the errors?
[04:25] <hubo> coach_z: what's your current kernel? is it a smp?
[04:25] <magix> Hey is anyone running a VNC server?
[04:25] <Broam> Bugz__: Okay.  Now for the fun part
[04:25] <LiENUS> nm i am mistaken...
[04:25] <EvanS> well, i have the driver installed into ndiswrapper, it's just not working
[04:25] <dallingham> LiENUS: This is a fresh install.
[04:25] <Broam> Bugz__:  using sudo
[04:25] <Bugz__> ok
[04:25] <LiENUS> apparently they do include firmware...
[04:25] <seww_> Broam, i dont think its working
[04:25] <thoreauputic> magix: I'm sure someone somehwere is...
[04:25] <EvanS> it won't enable the card i guess
[04:25] <coach_z> hubo im not sure really, how i check that
[04:25] <Broam> Bugz__:  mv xorg.conf.lastest-back-file xorg.conf
[04:26] <seww_> Broam, it seems like its activating but nothing seems to happen
[04:26] <thoreauputic> !anyone| magix
[04:26] <ubotu> magix: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:26] <Bugz__> so thats: sudo mv xorg.conf.lastest-back-file xorg.conf
[04:26] <Broam> Bugz__: : This will take your working configuration and overwrite your current non-working configuration
[04:26] <Bugz__> ??
[04:26] <Broam> Bugz__:  yes
[04:26] <hubo> coach_z: uname -a
[04:26] <dallingham> LiENUS: The error message was looking in /lib/firmware, but the code was in /lib/firmware/2.6.17-10-generic. I copied it to /lib/firmware, but it did not help.
[04:26] <Broam> seww_: no DHCP?
[04:26] <thoreauputic> EvanS: sorry, I haven't used ndiswrapper
[04:26] <seww_> Broam, i dont know. but nothing seems to work
[04:27] <EvanS> oh, ok thanks anyway
[04:27] <Broam> seww_: I'd almost ask you to install wpa_supplicant but it's only gonna end in tears
[04:27] <bluefox83> !media players
[04:27] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[04:27] <Bugz__> ok it seems like it didnt do anything, however no errors
[04:27] <coach_z> hubo: 2.6.15-27-amd64-generic #1 SMP PREEMPT
[04:27] <thoreauputic> EvanS: I have a native driver for my iBook ( Broadcom etc)
[04:27] <magix> Would VNC be hard to install on ubuntu for a linux noobie?
[04:27] <EvanS> unless there's another method of getting it to work
[04:27] <Broam> Bugz__: are you on a different computer, or the same one?
[04:27] <seww_> Broam, ok i might... or just say bye bye to ubuntu and go with XP
[04:27] <Bugz__> same one
[04:27] <hubo> Signoff: ramiro (Client Quit)
 LiENUS: The error message was looking in /lib/firmware, but the
[04:27] <hubo> +code was in /lib/firmware/2.6.17-10-generic. I copied it to /lib/firmware, but
[04:27] <hubo> +it did not help.
 seww_: no DHCP?
 EvanS: sorry, I haven't used ndiswrapper
[04:27] <hubo> *** bluefox83 (n=bluefox@dynamic-acs-24-239-249-234.zoominternet.net) has
[04:27] <hubo> +joined channel #ubuntu
[04:27] <hubo> *** mi|house (n=milhouse@70.51.15.58) has joined channel #ubuntu
[04:27] <LiENUS> ?
 Broam, i dont know. but nothing seems to work
[04:27] <thoreauputic> magix: vnc is already there - see the terminal server app under internet
 oh, ok thanks anyway
[04:27] <Broam> seww_: I hate to see you give up...
[04:27] <LiENUS> wth?
 seww_: I'd almost ask you to install wpa_supplicant but it's only gonna
[04:28] <hubo> +end in tears
 !media players
 Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet,
[04:28] <hubo> +Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video
[04:28] <bluefox83> wtf O.o
[04:28] <hubo> +players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[04:28] <seww_> Broam, yeah i dont want too either but its getting too much. been sitting here trying to get it to work all day
[04:28] <LiENUS> weird
[04:28] <dallingham> LiENUS: The odd thing is if I remove the model (rmmod) and reload it (modprobe), the card returns to life.
[04:28] <thoreauputic> !paste | hubo
[04:28] <ubotu> hubo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:28] <Bugz__> what is a hubo?
[04:28] <Bugz__> is that like a hobo?
[04:28] <tracy> anyone know a good version of something msn like? other than amsn..
[04:28] <Broam> Bugz__: some dude
[04:28] <DCR|> Broam: So it finished resizing, and now it's asking me: "Select which partitions you want to use for your new instalation and where you want to mount them" So the default right now goes like this:
[04:28] <DCR|> Mounting Point         size                                          Partition                                                           Reformat
[04:28] <DCR|> /media/hda1            68gb                Partition 1 Disc  IDE/ATA 1 (primary)  [hda1]                                  [] 
[04:28] <DCR|> /                               7gb                  Partition 2 Disc IDE/ATA  1 (primary) [hda2]                                   [*] 
[04:29] <Bugz__> oh
[04:29] <Broam> seww_: well, always try again another day...hmm
[04:29] <Broam> SH scripts that set up WPA...
[04:29] <seww_> Broam, maybe, maybe not
[04:29] <Broam> DCR:  pick hda2, mount it as /
[04:29] <Bugz__> Broam: anyways.. ill restart ubuntu and see if its fixed.
[04:29] <Broam> DCR|: pick hda2, mount it as /
[04:29] <Bugz__> Broam: is there a command for terminal to restart?
[04:29] <Broam> Bugz__: ok.  I'll be here
[04:30] <Broam> Bugz__: Ctrl-Alt-Backspace restarts X...
[04:30] <Broam> Bugz__: Ctrl-Alt-Del, unless you turn it off, restarts the whole machine
[04:30] <Bugz__> Well.. im on ChatZilla on another pc.. my ubuntu is next to me
[04:30] <hubo> i am really sorry, hit the wrong key; sorry!
[04:30] <Broam> Bugz__: You could also try sudo gdm --restart but I haven't had a ton of luck
[04:30] <DCR|> Broam: I don't get it, sorry, what do I need to change on the table I showed you?
[04:31] <coach_z> hubo: that was a heck of a sign off....did you get my kernel version?
[04:31] <Broam> DCR|: your windows partition is fine as /media/hda1.  You may not want to mount it, but you can
[04:31] <Broam> DCR|: hda2 is already going to be mounted as /
[04:31] <Broam> DCR|: make sure that hda1 is not going to be formatted.  I'm pretty sure that's the case now, but double-check
[04:31] <Bugz__> WOW!!
[04:31] <Bugz__> IT WORKED!!
[04:31] <Bugz__> Thankyou thankyou thankyou Broam
[04:31] <Bugz__> your a life-saver
[04:31] <Broam> Bugz__: that's why programs make backups. :)
[04:32] <DCR|> BUt hda2 should get formatted right?
[04:32] <Broam> DCR|:  yes
[04:32] <Bugz__> and thats why your going to stay forever and ever to help us nubs.. right?
[04:32] <Broam> I'm a nub too in a lot of ways
[04:32] <Bugz__> haha.. sure ya are..
[04:32] <Broam> that's the great thing about Free Software.  Always something new to learn
[04:32] <Bugz__> :P
[04:32] <Broam> hey seww_ you alive
[04:32] <cablesm102> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:32] <seww_> Broam yeah
[04:32] <cablesm102> damn
[04:32] <Bugz__> well instead of messing with my settings to try and get my ubuntu working great.. instead ill ask you..
[04:33] <cablesm102> forgot the /
[04:33] <seww_> Broam for another 20
[04:33] <Bugz__> my nVidia sound doesnt work.. any ideas?
[04:33] <Broam> cat /proc/driver/driverloader/<iface>/capabilities
[04:33] <Bugz__> ubuntu detects it though..
[04:33] <Broam> I have no clue if that works in ubuntu
[04:33] <Broam> seww_: I'm way off in lala land now
[04:33] <DCR|> Broam: This is right, right?
[04:33] <seww_> Broam, oh thats fine. im leaving soon anyways.
[04:33] <Broam> DCR|:  HDA1, 60GB or so, not formatted, mount has /media/hda1
[04:33] <DCR|>   The following partitions are going to be formatted:
[04:33] <DCR|>      partition #2 of /dev/hda as ext3
[04:33] <Broam> DCR|: HDA2, 7GB, formatted, mount as /
[04:33] <Broam> DCR|: looks right to me
[04:34] <DCR|> Alright ;)
[04:34] <Broam> seww_: Sorry. I'm not finding all that much.  The forums may be more help.  I'm sorry I'm not much help on this...I've always been a fan of "run it unsecure and use VPN over top"
[04:34] <Bugz__> My friend that got me into ubuntu, told me that nVidia should of automaticly worked with ubuntu..
[04:34] <DCR|> It's now installing :D Thanks a lot Broam I appreaciate it
[04:34] <DCR|> WOAH
[04:34] <Broam> Bugz__:  it should, but that doesn't mean there's no bumps in the road. :)  What card you have?
[04:34] <DCR|> Error
[04:34] <Broam> DCR|: ?
[04:34] <seww_> Broam, you're fine. it helped a lil
[04:34] <Broam> *ears perk up*
[04:35] <DCR|> You have not selected any partitions for use as swap space. Enabling swap space is recommended so that the system can make better use of the available physical memory, and so that it behaves better when physical memory is scarce. You may experience installation problems if you do not have enough physical memory.
[04:35] <Broam> oh yeah that
[04:35] <Broam> DCR|: Remember how I mentioned swap before?
[04:35] <Bugz__> its the nVidia.. I dont know much about the card though.. any commands for more information?
[04:35] <DCR|> Yea Kinda
[04:35] <Broam> Bugz__: hmm
[04:35] <DCR|> You said I can do it later correct?
[04:35] <cablesm102> Bugz__, you need help with Nvidia?
[04:35] <Broam> DCR|:  Yes, if you want.  However, if you want to do it now, I can try to walk you through it a bit
[04:35] <Bugz__> yessum
[04:35] <DCR|> Is it complicated?
[04:35] <LiENUS> oi
[04:36] <LiENUS> here goes dist-upgrade
[04:36] <Broam> DCR|:  shouldn't be
[04:36] <DCR|> Alright let's do it
[04:36] <Bugz__> iv been to the forums, no luck, been looking at complicated webpages, and no luck..
[04:36] <Bugz__> so im here now..
[04:36] <cablesm102> Bugz__, what stage are you at in the process?
[04:36] <LiENUS> its finished dling
[04:36] <LiENUS> and its upgrading now
[04:36] <Broam> DCR|: Okay...
[04:36] <Bugz__> stage?
[04:36] <DCR|> So I'm going to click "Go back" instead oc "continue
[04:36] <Broam> DCR|: yes
[04:36] <DCR|> Um crap
[04:36] <Broam> DCR|: take that 7GB partition you ma
[04:36] <Bugz__> ugh.. Im a noob at ubuntu.. installed a fresh copy from live-cd.. I think its Edgy FT or something.
[04:36] <cablesm102> Bugz, have you tried anything yet, or are you just here for instructions?
[04:36] <Broam> de
[04:37] <DCR|> I clicked Go back, and the installation closed
[04:37] <Bugz__> iv tried ALOT..
[04:37] <DCR|> Shall I start it again?
[04:37] <Bugz__> so I dont know if iv made it any worse or not..
[04:37] <Broam> DCR|: yes.
[04:37] <cablesm102> Bugz, I can help you with installing Nvidia drivers if that's what you need.
[04:37] <Bugz__> Im not sure what I need..
[04:37] <Bugz__> my hard-ware is detected via lspci -v
[04:37] <Broam> cablesm102: I would try to figure out what card Bugz__ has
[04:37] <Bugz__> and the aplay -l command
[04:37] <jimmygoon> How do I get jEdit to recognize my new fonts I installed?
[04:38] <cablesm102> Bugz__, private chat?
[04:38] <Bugz__> sure
[04:38] <coach_z> can someone help me get ubuntu to recognize the second core on my Core 2 Duo?   kernel version: 2.6.15-27-amd64-generic #1 SMP PREEMPT
[04:38] <Broam> coach_z: 64-bit kernel works on core2duo?
[04:38] <Broam> DCR|: Did you lose your new partition, or do you still have it?
[04:39] <DCR|> I have to check.. I'm doing the first steps right now
[04:39] <Broam> DCR|: ok
[04:39] <coach_z> Broam: yea, it is booted up right now
[04:39] <jimmygoon> any thoughts anyone?
[04:39] <DCR|> Broam: I still got them
[04:39] <blanky> ey guys, if I have lots of zip files (only zip files) in a directory on my site, can i download all of them in one go using wget -r http://mysite.com/thefolder/ ?
[04:39] <Broam> jimmygoon: Do othe rprograms pick up your new fonts?
[04:40] <jimmygoon> yes. I'm using it right now in xchat
[04:40] <Broam> blanky: I would believe so, wget does some really nifty things
[04:40] <jimmygoon> but it doens't show up in jedit
[04:40] <DCR|> Broam: What's next? Do I stay on the partinion table?
[04:40] <blanky> Broam: I know, I was asking if that's how you do it, heh
[04:40] <Broam> jimmygoon: I bet there's some font cache or something involved... check the docs?
[04:40] <Broam> blanky: I'm a little fuzzy on wget. I thought if you were asking if it's possible :)
[04:40] <jimmygoon> I've been googling...
[04:41] <blanky> Broam: oh haha
[04:41] <Broam> DCR|: I want you to take that 7GB partition and resize it to 6GB
[04:41] <Broam> DCR|: your new one
[04:42] <cablesm102> !sound
[04:42] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:42] <markus_uw> hi, i'm having some trouble with my wireless NIC, it's using an atheros AR5006X chipset, and the google hits say I need to compile the new madwifi from source. I'm not very comfortable compiling stuff, so I was wondering if anyone had an idea when/if someone's put these drivers in a debian package somewhere
[04:42] <cablesm102> !sound | cablesm102
[04:42] <ubotu> cablesm102: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:42] <task0> Broam, still there?
[04:42] <Broam> task0: Yeah, it was touch and go for a bit there
[04:43] <DCR|> Broam: Got it, it's pending, I need to click forward so it can take effect, so do I need to do anything else on the partitions table, or should I click fordward so it can take effect?
[04:43] <Broam> DCR|: you're not done yet
[04:43] <Broam> DCR|: you have about 1GB unallocated now, right?
[04:43] <DCR|> Yea
[04:43] <task0> Broam, i ONLY want to change the everithing exect the messages language
[04:43] <task0> how can i do that?
[04:43] <Broam> DCR|: make a second new partition
[04:43] <Broam> task0: Just the date format? Nothing else?
[04:44] <Balsamic_Chicken> is there some deb repo from where i can just apt-get install the newest openoffice version?
[04:44] <task0> Broam, no, everithing execpt the interface
[04:44] <Broam> DCR|: use the full 1GB
[04:44] <DCR|> Broam: Ok, as "Primary partition and ext3?
[04:44] <Broam> task0: Hmm...thinking
[04:44] <task0> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[04:44] <Broam> DCR|: primary's fine, sure...but make this one swap
[04:45] <malnilion> I'm having a problem where if one program is outputting audio (or is somehow tying up my audio driver or something), I cannot get audio from another program.  Is there any way to fix this?
[04:45] <task0> Broam, is the same thing there with portuguese, but with spanish...
[04:45] <Broam> task0: what language do you want to use?
[04:45] <task0> but i cant make it
[04:45] <task0> es_ar
[04:45] <DCR|> Broam: "linux-swap"
[04:45] <DCR|> ?
[04:45] <task0> but i want the itnerface in english
[04:45] <Broam> DCR|: that's the one
[04:45] <DCR|> Alright
[04:46] <DCR|> Ok, added
[04:46] <Broam> task0: you ran dpkg-reconfigure localeconf?
[04:46] <Broam> DCR|: ok. Now you have the following:
[04:46] <Broam> DCR|: hda1, NTFS, no format, mount as /media/hda1
[04:46] <Broam> DCR|: hda2, ext3, format, mount as /
[04:46] <Broam> DCR|: hda3, swap, swap
[04:46] <Bugz__> ok Broam
[04:46] <task0> Broam, yes, but i get confused in the LC_ part...
[04:46] <DCR|> Yup!
[04:46] <Bugz__> still no luck
[04:46] <sysdoc> Anyone have any documents on how to config Ubuntu with a Tab?let PC
[04:47] <task0> Broam, i have to select thing that i want to change or things i want to keep?
[04:47] <Broam> Bugz__: you mean using the binary nvidia drivers? I don't use those unfortunately
[04:47] <Broam> task0: Hmm. I'm going to run this command to
[04:47] <Broam> too
[04:47] <Bugz__> OK I have an nVidia card..
[04:47] <Bugz__> how do I find the information about that card?
[04:47] <Bugz__> via device manager possibly?
[04:47] <Broam> Bugz__: yes
[04:48] <Broam> task0: installing localeconf now
[04:48] <cablesm102> Bugz, specify that it's an Nvidia SOUND card
[04:48] <Broam> task0: I'm going to try
[04:48] <cablesm102> !sound | Bugz__
[04:48] <ubotu> Bugz__: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:48] <Broam> task0:  to do it here
[04:48] <DCR|> Broam: The swap, should it be formatted?
[04:48] <Broam> Bugz__: OH , it's a SOUND card?
[04:48] <Bugz__> Device: MCP51 High Definition Audio and its a PCI device..
[04:48] <Bugz__> indeedy
[04:48] <Broam> DCR|: I don't think it makes a difference, take the default
[04:48] <Rly> hi, anyone who can helping me installing ubuntu for the first time?
[04:48] <Bugz__> sorry.. I didnt know nVidia made video cards..
[04:48] <DCR|> Alright
[04:48] <Broam> Bugz__: they're actually more known for video cards :)
[04:49] <Bugz__> ooops.. im sorry..
[04:49] <Broam> Bugz__: it's fine, I made an assumption :)
[04:49] <cablesm102> Bugz__, they mostly make video cards and motherboards... probably you've got motherboard integrated sound by them
[04:49] <Broam> task0: okay, I'm running dpkg-reconfigure localeconf
[04:49] <cablesm102> !sound | Bugz__
[04:49] <ubotu> Bugz__: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:49] <Broam> task0: What's the confusing part?
[04:49] <Bugz__> I think so.. should I specify its a laptop too?
[04:49] <Rly> hi, anyone who can helping me installing ubuntu for the first time?
[04:49] <cablesm102> Rly, any problems?
[04:49] <Bugz__> and ALSA IS selected..
[04:50] <Broam> Rly: I'm walking someone else through.  We can help you out
[04:50] <task0> Broam, PM?
[04:50] <cablesm102> Bugz__, look at the page Ubotu sent you
[04:50] <Bugz__> and iv tried those pages.. with still no luck
[04:50] <cablesm102> Rly, sure
[04:50] <Broam> task0: I'm registered, go ahead
[04:50] <cablesm102> Rly, pm?
[04:50] <juano> Rly: hi yea sure
[04:50] <DCR|> Broam: Bad idea, you're getting tons of PM's now lol
[04:50] <Bugz__> LOL
[04:51] <Bugz__> But, as I was saying.. I tried those Sound pages.. with no luck..
[04:52] <homerj`> well, this works out well enough
[04:52] <Bugz__> ALSA IS enabled, and ubuntu IS detecting my sound-card.. but no sound..
[04:52] <task0> !MP3
[04:52] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:52] <Bugz__> even after I fix my sound problem.. I still have yet to fix another problem.. with my wireless card.
[04:53] <carl> Is it possible to install mplayer on ubuntu
[04:53] <carl> ?
[04:53] <coach_z> can someone help me get ubuntu to recognize the second core on my Core 2 Duo?   kernel version: 2.6.15-27-amd64-generic #1 SMP PREEMPT.....i know i keep asking but i had to RMA 3 motherboards to get this thing working and now it isnt even working
[04:53] <juano> carl: sure
[04:53] <witless> in xchat2, why in the world isn't there an "ignore" option available when you right click on someone's nick?
[04:53] <carl> I neetd to play wmv files
[04:53] <homerj`> Bugz_what wifi card?
[04:53] <homerj`> I just got an Airport Extreme to work
[04:53] <Bugz__> uhm.. I think its a Winbond
[04:53] <juano> carl: yea, you need wmv support first, you should get win32codecs
[04:53] <homerj`> hmmm...
[04:53] <homerj`> dunno on that one
[04:53] <carl> apt-get install mplayer?
[04:53] <homerj`> I had two working
[04:54] <homerj`> an amtel something, and the ae
[04:54] <thoreauputic> witless: umm, there is
[04:54] <juano> carl: yes, enable universe and multi-verse
[04:54] <juano> carl: i think they are on those repos
[04:54] <thoreauputic> witless: are you using xchat or xchat-gnome ?
[04:54] <witless> thoreauputic: nope.  not on mine.
[04:54] <witless> xchat2
[04:54] <Bugz__> its an Unknown device inside my MCP51 PCI Bridge slot..
[04:54] <Bugz__> why is it Unknown?
[04:54] <juano> carl: also sudo apt-get install win32codecs
[04:54] <carl>  juano> how to enable universe and multi--verse
[04:55] <juano> carl: run synaptic
[04:55] <juano> carl: settings ---> repos
[04:55] <thoreauputic> witless: xchat 2.6 ? which version? I have the dapper version here
[04:55] <cablesm102> coach_z, why in the world are you using an AMD kernel for your Core 2 Duo?
[04:55] <Broam> DCR|: nah, only one person
[04:55] <juano> carl: then check the boxes from the first tab
[04:55] <Bugz__> !wifi
[04:55] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:55] <Bugz__> !wireless card
[04:55] <juano> carl: after that click close, and then reload
[04:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wireless card - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:55] <Bugz__> hmm
[04:56] <sysdoc> !tablet pc
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tablet pc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <thoreauputic> juancgt: it's w32codecs, and they aren't in the official repos
[04:56] <thoreauputic> !w32codecs
[04:56] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[04:56] <sysdoc> !tablet
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tablet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <coach_z> cablesm102: im quite new to all this didnt know which one to download
[04:56] <witless> thoreauputic: 2.6.6 in edguy
[04:56] <Bugz__> !tabletpc
[04:56] <witless> edgy
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tabletpc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <cablesm102> coach_z, are you using Edgy or Dapper?
[04:56] <Broam> cablesm102: Because for some reason 64-bit kernel boots on core2duo.  It may not be just AMD anymore
[04:56] <juano> thoreauputic: yea w32codecs
[04:56] <coach_z> cablesm102: dapper
[04:56] <thoreauputic> witless: and this is xchat, not xchat-gnome, right?
[04:57] <juano> carl: w32codecs not win32codecs
[04:57] <cablesm102> Broam, wouldn't the 686 SMP kernel work better for him?
[04:57] <witless> thoreauputic: right
[04:57] <thoreauputic> juano: see ubotu above for the repo
[04:57] <cablesm102> coach_z, try installing the package linux-686-smp.
[04:57] <Broam> cablesm102: Yeah, worth a shot
[04:57] <juano> thoreauputic: yep, not for me i got them , for carl :)
[04:57] <Broam> cablesm102: He can always remove them later
[04:57] <Bugz__> hey Broam.. do you know much about Wireless cards?
[04:57] <thoreauputic> witless: hmm - can't check then - I am running dapper on this box
[04:57] <cablesm102> coach_z, use the command "sudo aptitude install linux-686-smp"
[04:57] <DCR|> 80% :D
[04:57] <juano> !w32codecs | carl
[04:57] <holycow> any sudo experts around?  i'm trying to give certain users sudo priviledges ONLY to certain binaries ... your_user_name ALL= NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/firestarter for example simply doesn't work
[04:57] <ubotu> carl: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[04:58] <Broam> Bugz__:  don't use 'em
[04:58] <holycow> any tips?
[04:58] <Bugz__> I see..
[04:58] <Broam> holycow: try groups?
[04:58] <coach_z> cablesm102: i tried doing that before but it was failing probably bc i was using apt-get
[04:58] <holycow> Broam, well i can give users full sudo access ... but nothing seem sto work for specific binaries
[04:58] <thoreauputic> holycow: has the user logged out since you made the changes?
[04:58] <holycow> Broam, any samples of giving groups sudo access to specific binaries?
[04:59] <Broam> holycow: well I know that on other systems certain groups can run shutdown.
[04:59] <holycow> thoreauputic, yeah
[04:59] <cablesm102> coach_z, the nice thing about Edgy is it detects what kernel to use automatically
[04:59] <Broam> holycow: Lemme dig around...
[04:59] <holycow> Broam, yeah thats no problem i found that one
[04:59] <holycow> it doesn't work
[04:59] <thoreauputic> holycow: odd - you used visudo and there were no syntax errors?
[04:59] <cablesm102> coach_z, i'd remove the amd kernel and try using the package linux-686-smp
[04:59] <holycow> thoreauputic, i will tripple check on the logout but yup.  and yeah visudo only
[04:59] <Asc> I'm trying to get mplayer to play css-d DVD files.  I have the library (libdvdcss2 I think) installed, and vlc can play it, but mplayer can't.  Do I need to recompile with a libdvdcss2 dev library?
[05:00] <coach_z> cablesm102: ill try doing that, and if it is a no go....i guess ill go get edgy.....this computer is solely a Folding@home machine so i just need something that is not going to crash
[05:00] <Broam> holycow, thoreauputic: I'm a bit above my head, but maybe there's a setuid or setgid, or sticky bit that needs to be set?
[05:00] <Bugz__> CRUD-HOPPERS!!.
[05:00] <Bugz__> sorry.. got angry..
[05:00] <Bugz__> x.X
[05:00] <holycow> Broam, shouldn't thats sorta the point of sudo i think
[05:01] <thoreauputic> Broam: i don't know, to be honest - but I doubt it
[05:01] <White_Lightning> beryl issue, no one in that chan is helping, hopefully you guys can, how do I fix the XFree86-DRI missing on display :0.0
[05:01] <coach_z> cablesm102:  "Couldnt find any package whose name or description matched "linux-686-smp" no packages will be installed, upgradedd oor removed
[05:01] <White_Lightning> I've ran through the installing of proper drivers
[05:01] <cablesm102> coach_z, hmm...
[05:01] <Broam> holycow: true
[05:01] <holycow> thoreauputic, let me define 'not working' - it insists the passwd is wrong
[05:01] <White_Lightning> but still getting that error and all the things on the net tell you to "fix it" but doing the same thing I've been running the whole time
[05:02] <coach_z> cablesm102: i dont need the cd in do i?
[05:02] <thoreauputic> coach_z: in edgy, smp is enabled by default
[05:02] <cablesm102> coach_z, run sudo aptitude update and try again
[05:02] <Broam> holycow: you didn't do anything funny with the root user did you?
[05:02] <holycow> thoreauputic, and i really don't care about the nopasswd part actually ... having them be prompted for pass is fine
[05:02] <Bugz__> I thought ubuntu was supose to "just work"
[05:02] <thoreauputic> holycow: it is asking for a password?
[05:02] <holycow> Broam, this is ubuntu not debian, i scream at users here that insist on using root :)
[05:02] <coach_z> cablesm102 that didnt work
[05:02] <lavid> this might be better suited for the forums, but i'll give it a shot here: My laptop has both onboard and external video (intel GMA and nvidia go 7400) which i can switch between by toggling a switch upon booting up. If I install the nvidia drivers (proprietary) I can't get opengl hardware acceleration when I use the intel card. I make sure I get a display by running a script to switch between 2 xorg.conf files, but what commands s
[05:02] <Broam> holycow: i'm on gNewSense, shh don't tell anyone
[05:02] <Bugz__> o.0 I might be misleading but I think its a rather bit of a headache for plug-n-pray devices..
[05:02] <coach_z> bugz_ : macs 'just work'
[05:03] <DCR|> Broam: It's done, I have to reboot now, so brb
[05:03] <Broam> DCR|: see you soon!
[05:03] <holycow> thoreauputic, yep! ... on both nopasswd and (all) options ... i'm not really dead set on nopasswd as i said, a prompt is fine actually
[05:03] <holycow> Broam, shame on you >_>
[05:03] <thoreauputic> Broam: most Ubuntites are in sympathy with GnewSense i think :)
[05:04] <cablesm102> coach_z, have you edited your sources.list at all?
[05:04] <holycow> ohhhh non freeness
[05:04] <thoreauputic> holycow: is this just so that the firestarter GUI will fire up on login? You know that isn't necessary, right?
[05:04] <holycow> ah thats fine.
[05:04] <Bugz__> sympathy.. isnt that like being depressed over something.. or more of an emotional state afflicted on another being??
[05:04] <coach_z> cablesm102: no
[05:04] <Broam> Did I miss anything?
[05:04] <holycow> thoreauputic, no thatas just an example, what i cant figure out is WHY REGULAR USERS cant modify time/date and setup networking
[05:04] <holycow> it frankly is mind boggling
[05:04] <cablesm102> coach_z, I have no idea why that's not installing...
[05:05] <holycow> why use a computer if you can't change that
[05:05] <holycow> makes sense on a server, not a desktop
[05:05] <holycow> thoreauputic, so i just need users to sudo with pass to time-admin and network-admin
[05:05] <thoreauputic> holycow: time/date is system wide and so is networking - why would users be allowed to change either?
[05:05] <coach_z> cablesm102:  i need to run out so im going to download edgy while i am out....what version should i download?
[05:05] <holycow> thoreauputic, server versus single user desktop
[05:05] <holycow> think about it :)
[05:05] <totall_6_7> firestarter works weather the gui is in the system tray or not
[05:05] <Broam> thoreauputic: I don't ask the questions, I just answer them
[05:06] <decoherence> they call it gksu
[05:06] <decoherence> get used to it
[05:06] <cablesm102> cocah_z, only one version...
[05:06] <cablesm102> coach_z, Edgy Eft is Ubuntu v 6.10
[05:06] <Broam> decoherence: I thikn it's gksudo actually
[05:06] <thoreauputic> holycow: on a single user desktop would the user not be in sudoers?
[05:06] <cablesm102> maybe 6.10.1
[05:06] <uRblong2us> hi
[05:06] <cablesm102> not sure
[05:06] <holycow> thoreauputic, so let me turn the question around ... have you ever given specific users su access to specific binaries?
[05:06] <Broam> hello
[05:06] <holycow> thoreauputic, oh god no, are you kidding?
[05:06] <whonicca> when a sudo apt-get update is done, should a aptitude update also be done or do they use the same database
[05:07] <Broam> whonicca: same database
[05:07] <Bugz__> grrrrr!!! ubuntu can just roll-over-and die..
[05:07] <jevangelo> what input does apt-get need to install helix server?
[05:07] <holycow> thoreauputic, the one thing NO ONE TELLS NEWBIES here is that running as sudoer is like running windows as admin
[05:07] <holycow> my god
[05:07] <Broam> Bugz__: but then it rolled back
[05:07] <thoreauputic> holycow: the answer is no :) I only know about it in theory :) Ignore me :)
[05:07] <holycow> do you know what the average password length is for anyone here?
[05:07] <holycow> i bet its like under 4 characters if that
[05:07] <Broam> 8?
[05:07] <whonicca> Broam, so a sudo apt-get update is the same as doing sudo aptitude update
[05:07] <Broam> whonicca: Yep
[05:07] <whonicca> cool
[05:07] <holycow> i mean c'mon ... we don't even prompt the user to create an 'admin' account which is what a sudo is ... and a restricted account which is what they should run as
[05:07] <Broam> whonicca: Synaptic's update is the same thing too.
[05:07] <holycow> just wait until the first exploit
[05:07] <Bugz__> 6
[05:08] <whonicca> cool
[05:08] <Broam> holycow: well
[05:08] <whonicca> nice to have everything in sync =)
[05:08] <holycow> thoreauputic, okay coolio :) i appreciate they help dude
[05:08] <uRblong2us> hi I can't join yahoo chats with GAIM
[05:08] <uRblong2us> :-(
[05:08] <thoreauputic> holycow: ah, in a work situation of course sudo is a different issue
[05:08] <Broam> whonicca: whether you use apt-get or aptitude or synaptic or adept or any other front-end, it's the same system. What you use is generally a matter of personal choice.  I'm fond of aptitude myself
[05:08] <holycow> thoreauputic, i disagree, its no different at home
[05:08] <holycow> its simply ignoring security
[05:08] <holycow> i my self run as restricted
[05:09] <whonicca> Broam, same here
[05:09] <holycow> just wait till helpfull bash scripts start appearing tha tpeople click on and they start getting prompted for a pass thinking oh okay i do this all day long
[05:09] <holycow> instant rootkit
[05:09] <Bugz__> isnt that a matter of opinion holycow?
[05:09] <Broam> holycow: yes, but all that access will be logged, at least the first few steps
[05:09] <thoreauputic> holycow: I merely meant that if only one user ( the person who installed Ubuntu) uses the box, sudo is not an issue - in a family it is, of course - or in a shared house etc
[05:10] <marquivon> Hello. For the past few days I'm trying to install Ubuntu via the Netboot Kernel. I'd setup a local repository using apt-mirror, also tried using the files in the Alternate install ISO CD, but it requires packages which are not available in either
[05:10] <Bugz__> marq, what version are you trying to install?
[05:10] <marquivon> 6.10 edgy
[05:10] <Bugz__> You downloaded it from the ubuntu home page?
[05:10] <thoreauputic> holycow: every home needs a sysadmin ;p
[05:11] <holycow> thoreauputic, i really really think running as serverly underpriviledged user is a requirement ... but as bugz_ sure there might be room to disagree
[05:11] <decoherence> what helpful bash scripts?
[05:11] <Broam> ...
[05:11] <decoherence> there aren't any, except on the ubuntu forums
[05:11] <thoreauputic> holycow: I don't think we disagree actually
[05:11] <decoherence> oh right this is ubuntu channel. oops
[05:11] <holycow> thoreauputic, heh ... i would say we need to really stop telling people that it is okay to act as a sysadmin when they are not qualified
[05:11] <uRblong2us> yo guys I can't connect to chat in yahoo with GAIM
[05:11] <uRblong2us> help
[05:11] <Bugz__> Id say the easiest way to install ubuntu is to download the Live-CD from the ubuntu home-page, and install the ISO to a disk. and then install it from the Live-CD
[05:11] <holycow> thoreauputic, me neither
[05:11] <uRblong2us> c'mon what the hell is wrong?
[05:11] <KDan> something keeps resetting my server's clock to be in the wrong time zone? any thoughts?
[05:11] <marquivon> Bugz__, Yes I did. I even used us.archive.ubuntu.com to make a mirror of main, restricted, main/debian-installer
[05:12] <KDan> keeps moving back about 13 hours into the past
[05:12] <Bugz__> and what was the problem?
[05:12] <holycow> so back to my q ... i'm fishing for any help here!  anyone familiar with sudo under dapper?
[05:12] <thoreauputic> holycow: well, if they actually install Ubuntu they become a sysadmin by default
[05:12] <thoreauputic> holycow: in a way
[05:12] <jevangelo> can helix be installed through apt-get?
[05:12] <marquivon> Bugz__, I'm trying to install it on 8 of my machines and none of them has CD Drive.
[05:12] <jevangelo> helix server?
[05:12] <holycow> thoreauputic, thats EXACTLY the problem.  exactly.
[05:12] <Bugz__> That could be a problem..
[05:12] <decoherence> somewhat. you're trying to allow unrestricted access to programs for a user?
[05:12] <holycow> thoreauputic, we keep on pushing ocmputers on users like dealers push crack
[05:12] <thoreauputic> holycow: OK - but how would you avoid that?
[05:12] <Bugz__> the Live-CD I used was meant for the CD-ROM Drive
[05:12] <tonyyarusso> Anybody have a SIP account and a webcam?  I need to test Ekiga for a screenshot for Herd 3 release notes.
[05:13] <Bugz__> im not sure how you would go about booting the Live-CD without a cd drive..
[05:13] <holycow> thoreauputic, i haven't figured out how to merge responsibility with freedom to buy
[05:13] <Broam> Bugz__: there are ways. They scare me.
[05:13] <holycow> maybe a big shiny sticker should be sent out to everyone :)
[05:13] <thoreauputic> holycow: you and everyone else :)
[05:13] <Bugz__> LOL.. indeed Broam
[05:13] <marquivon> Yes. By CD it is very convenient. I thought that mounting the ISO would provide me all the packages
[05:13] <thoreauputic> holycow: maybe we need a license to run a computer ;p
[05:13] <holycow> thoreauputic, maybe offering cheap sysadmin courses online is a middle ground.  we go okay buy it, but here is a warning: until you become a qualified sysadmin your screwed
[05:13] <Broam> jevangelo: if you find a repository that has .deb files for Ubuntu, then you can add that repository (I forget how exactly, it's a two-step process)
[05:13] <terapicodave_> Hi, i'm trying to compile ndiswrapper but got this error here: http://rafb.net/p/TzGGWa70.html
[05:14] <Bugz__> no by mounting the ISO will just temporary mount it to a fictitious drive
[05:14] <Bugz__> however.. the live-cd is RAN on boot
[05:14] <CyberCod> Help people, I'm about to tear my hair out!
[05:14] <holycow> thoreauputic, that goes against the 'freedom' thing, yeah i used to actually feel that way
[05:14] <thoreauputic> holycow: right :)
[05:14] <Bugz__> your ISO fictitious image wouldnt be on boot, now would it?
[05:14] <Broam> CyberCod: Tell us about your problems
[05:14] <Arrick> hey, what do I type in terminal to get the specs of a box?
[05:14] <marquivon> No, but if copy the netboot kernel on my USB Disk, install grub on the same and boot using the USB Disk
[05:15] <decoherence> lshw | less
[05:15] <Bugz__> That could work..
[05:15] <thoreauputic> holycow: I agree that it's a worry - so many people are now installing Ubuntu and popping up with "how can I run as root all the time?"
[05:15] <Bugz__> but the packages I used from Synaptic
[05:15] <thoreauputic> :(
[05:15] <Bugz__> AFTER I got ubuntu installed
[05:15] <marquivon> So i'll be able to boot. I have even used the ubuntu-mirrors to do the installation
[05:15] <drew2x> I'm having a weird problem. Roadrunner internet went down today, it finally came back up but i can no longer connect to the internet on my ubuntu pc. My iBook connects fine so i know the internet is back up
[05:15] <CyberCod> Broam, I'm finishing an installation of Ubuntu Edgy on an older gateway with an integrated AC-Link Voice modem... I can't get the modem to work, and there's hardly any documentation to be had on the web, and none at all for linux
[05:15] <Arrick> decoherence, was that for me?
[05:15] <Bugz__> Broam, might be able to help you marquivon.
[05:16] <holycow> thoreauputic, just watching the sorts of questions on forums and here, i shake my head sometimes
[05:16] <kota> I feel so stupid now.
[05:16] <kota> :(
[05:16] <Broam> CyberCod: This is going to drive you nuts, then. Happen to know the chipset in that thing?
[05:16] <holycow> i really wonder if we are doing them a favour at all
[05:16] <marquivon> thanks Bugz__
[05:16] <thoreauputic> holycow: indeed, so do I
[05:16] <Bugz__> lol..
[05:16] <Broam> Bugz__: Hmm.
[05:16] <Broam> marquivon: I'm trying to think...
[05:16] <Bugz__> :P
[05:16] <Broam> marquivon: what OS are these machines running now?
[05:17] <CyberCod> I found the windows drivers, but I don't know how to detect the chipset.... I was considering installing Everest in windows to see what it told me about the hardware
[05:17] <marquivon> Broam, no OS. Booting using a USB Pen Drive
[05:17] <thoreauputic> Bugz__: holycow has a point - the level of clulessness is getting worrying, frankly
[05:17] <marquivon> installed Grub and Netboot Kernel
[05:17] <decoherence> CyberCob: you need to do lshw | less too
[05:17] <blanky> how do I compile java programs?
[05:17] <blanky> !java
[05:17] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[05:17] <CyberCod> lshw | less?
[05:17] <aqnet8> gjug
[05:17] <bruenig> javac whatever.java
[05:17] <decoherence> yep
[05:17] <CyberCod> kk
[05:17] <aqnet8> hi all
[05:18] <Broam> marquivon: I haven't tried this, most of my machine are lucky to know what usb IS.
[05:18] <decoherence> the info you want is probably in there, assuming the hardware works
[05:18] <Broam> marquivon: I've seen some really scary stuff, where people format their USB sticks fat12 and hope the BIOS treats it like a huge floppy
[05:18] <terapicodave_> do i need to do anything to get an edgy default install to compile soemthign like ndiswrapper?
[05:18] <bruenig> !build-essential
[05:18] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:18] <Broam> marquivon: do you have a server that netboot will pull from?
[05:18] <bruenig> !info build-essential
[05:18] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3 (edgy), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[05:19] <terapicodave_> thanks bruenig
[05:19] <bruenig> that package description sucks
[05:19] <marquivon> Broam, that is the problem. If I use the online ubuntu mirrors then I'm able to do it successfully using Netboot
[05:19] <enlight> Could someone tell me what the + at the end of a dir permission like this "drwxr-x---+" means?
[05:19] <rellik> I'm having a problem with my networking..  I'm trying to use SMB to get a ~200M file from my windows box, and it says it is gonna take 11 hours..  both should are wired through a switch, so things should be going pretty fast, but instead my transfer rate is WELL below 1MB/s..  why is it so slow? What can I do to fix it?
[05:19] <decoherence> it has an ACL
[05:19] <Bugz__> thoreauputic: with all seriousness.. I do beleive the relatively few of us that have brains, will be over-run with brainless inpowderment on the surface of earth...
[05:19] <decoherence> enlight
[05:19] <CyberCod> Broam, not seeing anything in there that looks like a modem, should I pastebin it?
[05:19] <marquivon> Broam, but since I'd be installing it on more than 2 machines (8 machines to be precise), I need a faster alternative. I tried using apt-mirror to replicate the Ubuntu Repository locally
[05:19] <enlight> decoherence: ah ok, thank you :)
[05:19] <Broam> CyberCod: Sure, why not
[05:19] <Bugz__> thor: its only going to get worse too..
[05:19] <decoherence> stupid pain in the ass permissions to make up for poor directory layout
[05:19] <gu014> can i do anything to improve the efficiency of firefox? using sooo much memory and really slowing down my system. 3ghz 3gb ram
[05:20] <thoreauputic> Bugz__: that happened long ago, sadly :)
[05:20] <lavid> so... anyone have any idea about the opengl dual graphics card thing i asked about? (it's possible it didn't go through, my internets are going quite slowly)
[05:20] <Bugz__> haha
[05:20] <Bugz__> indeed
[05:20] <Broam> marquivon: and no love on that?  I'm not good with this stuff... :(
[05:20] <bruenig> gu014, swiftfox maybe
[05:20] <cablesm102> !swiftfox | gu014
[05:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swiftfox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:20] <blanky> how do I remove journaling from ext3? I forgot the command
[05:20] <marquivon> Broam, thanks for the help :-) Any place I can ask this?
[05:20] <linuxgoober> does anyone know how to change konsole's font color? i can't seem to find it in the options
[05:20] <cablesm102> blanky, wouldn't that basically make it into Ext2?
[05:20] <Bugz__> brb everyone.. DONT DIE!!
[05:20] <Bugz__> :O
[05:21] <cablesm102> We'll try not to
[05:21] <blanky> cablesm102: that's what I want...
[05:21] <Broam> marquivon: forums are always an option.  Mailing lists too, probably not the developer ones.  I'm thinking that someone, somewhere, has had this exact same problem, because it doesn't seem that outlandish
[05:21] <blanky> I forgot the program that does it
[05:21] <cablesm102> !Ext2 | blanky
[05:21] <blanky> tune2fs?
[05:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Ext2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:21] <cablesm102> hmm
[05:21] <blanky> cablesm102: haha
[05:21] <blanky> !botsnack
[05:21] <ubotu> Yum!
[05:21] <cablesm102> ubotu, learn about ext2!
[05:21] <marquivon> Broam, posted on the forum, no reply yet :-(
[05:21] <blanky> !ext2
[05:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ext2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:21] <cablesm102> blanky, ask people how to convert ext3 to ext2
[05:21] <blanky> noobotu
[05:22] <blanky> cablesm102: that's what I just did haha
[05:22] <blanky> It's tune2fs I think
[05:22] <Broam> marquivon: A system admin's mailing list might be more useful.  Stay away from a.s.r though
[05:22] <cablesm102> blanky, ask specifically ext3 to ext2, don't ask how to remove journalling. Even though they're the same thing
[05:22] <CyberCod> Broam, I see you're pretty busy, so when you get a sec... heres what that gave me... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3660/
[05:22] <decoherence> !poke
[05:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about poke - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:22] <decoherence> dammit
[05:22] <marquivon> Broam, Thanks much :-)
[05:22] <cablesm102> Ubotu's failing a lot today
[05:22] <thoreauputic> !botabuse
[05:22] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[05:23] <Yun1> hi everyone... i need help bridging connections with a intel Pro 10/100 and a Realtek NIC
[05:23] <rellik> anyone here good with networking?  my local transfer from my windows machine (SMB) is going at about 50-100KB/s over a wired line through a switch..  what can I do to make it go faster?
[05:24] <Broam> CyberCod: Hmm. Looks like it only sees it as a sound card!
[05:24] <bruenig> the point of ubotu is not to guess, it is to use him so as not to have to type out the same responses over and over
[05:24] <cablesm102> rellik, does that happen with 2 windows computers?
[05:24] <bruenig> guessing is reserved for /msg
[05:24] <tonyyarusso> bruenig: Or just search at the page :)
[05:24] <Netslayer> I'm running edgy and i'm having an issue with a specific set of dark colors on any rendered area. All dark blacks are being rastorized greenish even in video playback, kde shutdown menu. any ideas?
[05:24] <rellik> cablesm102, no transferring between two windows comps goes at expected speeds
[05:24] <bruenig> well yeah, but I mean don't ask that much
[05:24] <Broam> CyberCod: also, there's this idea that your serial is UNCLAIMED.  Not sure what that means, but it's probably not...good
[05:25] <DCR|> Broam: It worked! :d Thanks a lot
[05:25] <CyberCod> Broam, it does have integrated sound as well... was there 2?
[05:25] <cablesm102> bruenig, i had no idea you could /msg ubotu... i feel stupid
[05:25] <Bugz__> LOL @ Broam
[05:25] <Bugz__> no.. I dont think that an unclaimed serial.. is ever good
[05:25] <decoherence> Netslayer: what's the video card? have you tested the monitor on another computer?
[05:25] <thoreauputic> unclaimed cereal just gets soggy and unusable...
[05:25] <Bugz__> infact.. how would you even force it to claim itself?? o.O
[05:26] <CyberCod> Its an older machine... 700Mhz celeron,  thats practically carbon-dating there
[05:26] <Broam> CyberCod: it might be that the sound card IS the modem.  AC'97 is like that
[05:26] <Bugz__> maybe cherious have a self-bios that forces the cerial to migrate into a word for claimability?
[05:26] <Bugz__> cherios**
[05:26] <Netslayer> decoherence, it's a nvidia 7800 gt, and the problem goes away after i start playing back video i think
[05:26] <rellik> is 3c59x the best driver to use for my 3COM-SOHO100-TX?
[05:26] <Broam> CyberCod:  or it may not be, they may be seperate.  Hav eyou ever cracked the case?
[05:27] <CyberCod> Hmmm..  I've got other cards, its just that the dang thing has half-height pci slots... yeah, i had to replace the hard drive to start out with
[05:27] <Bugz__> hey Broam.. I do have a theory about my sound..
[05:27] <Bugz__> would it be possible for ubuntu to not use the PC-Speaker.. or somehow use a default speaker port?
[05:27] <Bugz__> the speakers are built into the laptop.. so maybe that could be a possibility..
[05:27] <Yun1> i need help bridging 2 NICs (Intel PRO 10/100 and Realtek fast ethernet)
[05:28] <cablesm102> Bugz__, does it work with headphones plugged in?
[05:28] <Bugz__> I havnt checked cablesm102.. let me try
[05:28] <Broam> Bugz__: Hmm. You can turn off the pc-speaker. It's annoying, I forget exactly how, but I know in the gnome-terminal at least there's a way. Should be for the tty's too
[05:28] <CyberCod> one moment, I'm gonna see if I can dig up some info on the card (again)
[05:28] <Broam> CyberCod: never actually physically looked at the thing? That's always enlightening
[05:28] <cablesm102> Bugz__, PC Speaker is something completely different.
[05:28] <Broam> CyberCod: especially because it has the FCC ID printed on it
[05:29] <nick__> whenever i encode mp3's they play back all scrambled HELP?
[05:29] <marquivon> Broam: Sorry for the trouble, what'd be the system admin's mailing list? Not able to find any on https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/
[05:29] <Bugz__> hmmm nope cablesm102.. the headphones dont work either..
[05:30] <Broam> marquivon: Bah! Sorry.  I'd see if there's a more general one. Maybe the debian mailing lists would be of some help?
[05:30] <bruenig> !quicktime | nick__
[05:30] <ubotu> nick__: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:30] <CyberCod> Don't know what to do with FCC ID... always kinda looked over it
[05:30] <Broam> CyberCod: You can search by it!
[05:30] <marquivon> Broam: Okay thanks. I'll look further
[05:31] <Broam> CyberCod: I think google supports it, I forget.  If not the FCC.gov page has a search option
[05:31] <CyberCod> the win drivers for it are available on gateway... to bad theres not a modem driver wrapper like ndiswrapper
[05:31] <CyberCod> http://support.gateway.com/support/drivers/mydl.asp?tab=MY&os=All%20Operating%20Systems
[05:31] <Bugz__> Broam.. im going back to the drawing board for the sound-problem..
[05:31] <task0> how do i install ntfs support for gnome partitioner?
[05:31] <Bugz__> see ya in a few..
[05:31] <metal03> Hey, how do I make .mov video files work??
[05:31] <Broam> marquivon: Someone has to have done it--if not, instructions on how to mirror the repo locally should be easier to find too
[05:31] <bruenig> task0, should already be installed
[05:31] <gerzel> I'm curios, is there anyway I could put a indicator bar for downloads from firefox on my gnome panel?
[05:31] <bruenig> !quicktime | metal03
[05:31] <ubotu> metal03: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:31] <Broam> task0: It should just be in there
[05:31] <gerzel> Has anyone done something like this?
[05:32] <juano> gerzel: must be some plugin fore that
[05:32] <bruenig> gerzel, seems an odd task. I mean if you are downloading really huge things, seems like you would use a download manager or something to achieve that. Small things the progress bar wouldn't matter
[05:32] <juano> gerzel: downthemall! is the download manager for firefox
[05:32] <Broam> Bugz__ : ok.  Sorry I couldn't help
[05:33] <Yun1> Hi, i need help bridging 2 NICs (Intel PRO 10/100 and Realtek fast ethernet)
[05:33] <Bugz__> its ok Broam
[05:33] <task0> bruenig, Broam, look: http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/2764/screenshotfeaturesal8.png
[05:33] <ssstormy> hello, I'm doing a network install on my laptop, and it seems to have ... stopped at "select and install software" after asking me which resolutions I want for xorg
[05:33] <juano> gerzel: try installing downthemall or something similar
[05:33] <ssstormy> I left it about an hour ago
[05:33] <ssstormy> and it's still there
[05:33] <bruenig> task0, what happens when you mess with your ntfs partitions
[05:33] <gerzel> juano thanks
[05:33] <metal03> I've read all about the Restrited formats and the free formats, but I still can't find anything about .mov files...
[05:33] <CyberCod> Broam, thanx, I'll look at the FCC ID tomorrow, I'm about to pass out on my keyboard (again)  I gotta get some sleep
[05:34] <task0> bruenig, what do you mean?
[05:34] <Broam> CyberCod: good timing, my s/o has decided she needs to be paid attention to
[05:34] <bruenig> task0, well have you tried to do whatever you are trying to do with your ntfs stuff
[05:34] <CyberCod> g/nite... thanx for trying
[05:34] <juano> gerzel: sure, dont know though bout the taskbar, maybe you can configure it to do so
[05:34] <Netslayer> this is so annoying, some default library isnt rendering correctly in my edgy install. i have this rastorized greenish corruption in black areas everywhere..any ideas?
[05:34] <marquivon> Broam: Did much. Full instructions on local mirroring available, but that mirror cannot be used for installation. Did a lot of research. Tired, but only want a confirmation that it is possible, then I'll do it for sure
[05:34] <_archangel> how do you install xml parser ?
[05:34] <Netslayer> it's in kde shutdown pic, playing videos, backgrounds, all rendered things
[05:35] <Bugz__> Broam.. you lucky duck..
[05:35] <_archangel> i'm trying to install the beryl package
[05:35] <task0> bruenig, i dont know how to do enithingg
[05:35] <bruenig> task0, it is graphical. Point and click your way to completion. See if it errs or not.
[05:35] <Broam> marquivon: okay. I'm tired too.  I'm starting to type my own name to answer questions :)
[05:35] <thoreauputic> Netslayer: I get that with using the feh program, but only on my laptop for some reason
[05:35] <Broam> marquivon: I'm sorry I'm not much help... :(
[05:35] <frogzoo> Yun1: bridge-utils
[05:35] <wastrel> "ubucon"
[05:36] <task0> bruenig, i'm really sory, i don't understand... click where?
[05:36] <thoreauputic> Netslayer: also over ssh -X with backgrounds in Fluxbox
[05:36] <KDan> how do i add a group to my main user without busting the sudoers list? last time i tried to do this i failed
[05:36] <bruenig> task0, you are using gparted right?
[05:36] <KDan> (ie last time i ended up losing sudo access)
[05:36] <task0> yes
[05:36] <Netslayer> thoreauputic, it's really odd i haven't ever had this happen on a box until i upped to edgy. it goes away after i do something until i restart
[05:36] <thoreauputic> KDan:  sudo adduser username groupname
[05:37] <bruenig> task0, what are you trying to do with it
[05:37] <KDan> thoreauputic: that won't bustthe sudo?
[05:37] <Yun1> frogzoo: i have them... how do you start it... im very new to linux
[05:37] <wastrel> KDan:  i believe that was a bug in the Dapper version of the gui user configurator thingy
[05:37] <thoreauputic> KDan: no not at all
[05:37] <KDan> oh. ok.
[05:37] <task0> resize a partition and create  a new one in the free space
[05:37] <wastrel> KDan:  i think it's fixed in edgy....
[05:37] <Silver> Can anyone tell me why it wont let me access folders? and edit the contents like Home folder?
[05:37] <bruenig> task0, and what happens when you try to do that?
[05:37] <thoreauputic> KDan: adds the user to a new group - user needs to lo out and in to take effect
[05:37] <metal03> I'm trying to read a .mov video file...  Can someone help me with that?  I figured that quicktime doesn't exist on Ubuntu...
[05:37] <task0> bruenig, i cant resize...
[05:37] <bruenig> task0, it isn't mounted is it?
[05:38] <wastrel> !quicktime | metal03
[05:38] <ubotu> metal03: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:38] <task0> bruenig, it's not mounnted
[05:38] <_archangel> !xml parser | _archangel
[05:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xml parser - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:38] <Silver> Can anyone tell me why it wont let me access folders? and edit the contents like Home folder?
[05:38] <bruenig> task0, odd, just get the gparted live cd and partition in that
[05:38] <bruenig> Silver, what folders?
[05:38] <Silver> Home ETC
[05:39] <bruenig> what do you mean it won't let you access it. What is it telling you
[05:39] <Silver> i cannot edit Fonts, or Icons ETC
[05:39] <metal03> wastrel : I've read all about the free formats and the restricted formats...  I still didn't find any informations on what I'm looking for...  unless there's something I don't get!
[05:39] <Silver> it is telling me i do not have permission
[05:39] <_archangel> !xml parser perl module | _archangel
[05:39] <bruenig> Silver, these are in ~ or other places?
[05:39] <task0> bruenig, :(
[05:39] <Silver> err, i don't know what you mean?
[05:39] <bruenig> Silver, where exactly are these icons located?
[05:39] <Asc> metal03: mplayer should be able to play it fine without too much effort
[05:39] <bruenig> what is the full path
[05:40] <Silver> desktop
[05:40] <_archangel> vlc will play mov files
[05:40] <Silver> same for the fonts
[05:40] <thinkmassive> hello, I'm just used ntfsresize (from a livecd) to shrink my only partition /dev/hda1, and now I'd like to resize the partition with fdisk, but I want to move it to the end of the free space
[05:40] <bruenig> and what are you trying to do with it?
[05:40] <metal03> Asc: How?  Cause it's not atm!
[05:40] <Silver> Install new fonts
[05:40] <thinkmassive> in other words I want a small partition at the beginning of the disk for grub
[05:40] <Asc> pretty sure the h264 standard isn't proprietary, so it should come with the driver....
[05:40] <Silver> and new Icons ETC
[05:40] <bruenig> Silver, do you know how to do that?
[05:40] <_archangel> !perl module | _archangel
[05:40] <ubotu> perl: Larry Wall's Practical Extraction and Report Language. In component main, is important. Version 5.8.8-6 (edgy), package size 3287 kB, installed size 11436 kB
[05:40] <Asc> metal03: Hmm.
[05:40] <Silver> not off hand, but i am Reading a tut
[05:40] <Bugz__> !Rioworks
[05:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Rioworks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:40] <Silver> it does not say anything about errors
[05:41] <_archangel> !beryl
[05:41] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[05:41] <Asc> metal03: Do you know if it's h.264, or the older quicktime format?
[05:41] <bruenig> Silver, well the tutorial should tell you. What you will need to do is use "sudo mv" in order to move stuff from the desktop to wherever it needs to go
[05:41] <Silver> oh
[05:41] <metal03> Asc: How would I know that?
[05:41] <Silver> what about if it tells me to save to the home folder?
[05:41] <Silver> it wont let me save it to the foldere
[05:41] <Silver> folder*
[05:41] <bruenig> Silver, /home or /home/username
[05:42] <Silver> it should let me save if i do that?
[05:42] <thinkmassive> nobody knows how to move an ntfs filesystem within a partition?
[05:42] <Asc> metal03: Well, if it's a trailer from the quicktime website, it's h.264.  If it's extracted from Myst, it's probably something older.
[05:42] <bruenig> Silver, to move it to /home you need to use sudo mv. To move it to /home/username you don't
[05:43] <Silver> k
[05:43] <Asc> metal03: If it's a small file, I could try it; I've got the spare codecs installed.  If that doesn't work, I don't know how to help.
[05:43] <Silver> i will most likely return lol, thanks
[05:44] <roho> !webcam
[05:44] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[05:44] <roho> !msn
[05:44] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[05:44] <Silver> ok, it tells me to save to the folder. and then it gives  me this to use afterwards.
[05:44] <Yun1> how do you start bridge-utils on linux?
[05:44] <Silver>  Can anyone tell me why it wont let me access folders? and edit the contents like Home folder?
[05:44] <Silver> wrong thing
[05:44] <Silver> Dang
[05:44] <bruenig> Silver, if you link the tutorial, it would probably be easier to follow
[05:44] <Silver> ok
[05:44] <Silver> im gonna have to type it out
[05:45] <blanky> how can I do a reinstall, I tried sudo apt-get reinstall blah, but no go
[05:45] <bruenig> this tutorial is online, just give the url
[05:45] <bruenig> I would assume at least
[05:45] <Silver> http://www.Taimila.com/ubuntuosx.php#themes
[05:45] <Silver> sry, my mIRC is not in Ubuntu
[05:46] <Silver> so i had to type it lol
[05:46] <task0> hello all, how can i remake locales files? they are not appling using sudo dpkg-reconfigure localeconf
[05:46] <bruenig> blanky, sudo apt-get install --reinstall blah
[05:46] <Silver> im only having problems with the top panel
[05:46] <Silver> and where it ask's about changing icon
[05:46] <blanky> thanks bruenig
[05:47] <Silver> so, any luck on how i would do that?
[05:48] <bruenig> Silver, on the themes you just download the tar.gz files and then drag them into the theme dialog
[05:48] <cablesm102> blanky, i'd use sudo aptitude reinstall
[05:48] <Silver> err....
[05:48] <bruenig> oh wait icons
[05:48] <cablesm102> nvm...
[05:48] <blanky> bruenig: thanks it worked, but the thing is I want to remove my configuration files
[05:48] <cablesm102> for reinstall it doesn't matter
[05:48] <Silver> i have it all done
[05:48] <Silver> im just down to
[05:48] <blanky> cablesm102: would it remove my configuration files?
[05:48] <Silver> the Top panel
[05:48] <blanky> cause they messed up my program (eclipse-sdk)
[05:48] <bruenig> blanky, sudo apt-get --purge blah
[05:48] <cablesm102> blanky, what?
[05:49] <bruenig> or it may be sudo apt-get remove --purge blah
[05:49] <blanky> bruenig: I dont want to remove the program, I want to keep it, but remove the configuration files, er, like, start new
[05:49] <blanky> yeah it's remove --purge
[05:49] <cablesm102> blanky, sudo apt-get remove --purge or sudo aptitude purge removes config files
[05:49] <blanky> but that would remove the program
[05:49] <bruenig> blanky, well remove it and purge and them install it again
[05:49] <blanky> aww man, it's a frickin 129 mb download, that's why I was wondering if there was a way to only do config files, guess not, thanks anyways guys
[05:49] <bruenig> it is not like you are redownloading anything. It will just use the deb in your cache
[05:49] <blanky> oh okay
[05:50] <blanky> sudo apt-get remove --purge eclipse-sdk && sudo apt-get install eclipse-sdk ?
[05:50] <bruenig> looks good
[05:50] <blanky> sweet thanks man
[05:50] <bruenig> Silver, this looks extremely long. They really should write a script to do this stuff.
[05:51] <task0> can i resize main ext3 partition?
[05:51] <holycow> does anyone here have experience with sudo on dapper?
[05:51] <Silver>  i have most done, all i need is the top panel part...
[05:51] <blanky> nope, I keep getting this error heh, "Error notifying a preference change listener. Check the log for details.", I'll look for the log, wait, what log?
[05:51] <wastrel> holycow:  i have experience with sudo on dapper
[05:52] <nemik> hello, how can i stop my 'Network Places' connections from all appearing on the desktop? there are way too many....
[05:52] <White_Lightning> I'm tired of troubleshooting, it plain doesn't work. So what PCMIA wireless cards SEEM to be the most compatible with ubuntu edgy?
[05:52] <Crema10> ugh...
[05:52] <White_Lightning> so I know what type to pick up
[05:52] <Crema10> i cant make it work...
[05:52] <bruenig> don't know, never had that error
[05:52] <nemik> white_lightingin: always been fine with dlink ones
[05:53] <White_Lightning> yeah I've been hearing dlink would be good, and I've always liked them actually
[05:53] <White_Lightning> cheap, but they work well
[05:53] <Crema10> good evening, i'm trying to screencast with Istanbul, but its useless... it runs so slow.. does anybody else have an alternative that has worked?
[05:53] <nemik> yes, stay away from ANYTHING that needs ndiswrapper. it is just not worth the pain
[05:53] <White_Lightning> yeah
[05:53] <task0> it is safe to resize partitions eith gparted?
[05:53] <White_Lightning> the internal in this laptop is a broadcom
[05:54] <nemik> ouch
[05:54] <nemik> wait, if you can get to the internal, replace it with an ipw2200
[05:54] <White_Lightning> eh, I don't want to tear in to it
[05:54] <nemik> they are super-cheap on ebay and supported on everything ever. i love mine
[05:54] <Crema10> any screencast experts here?
[05:54] <White_Lightning> still under warranty
[05:54] <Silver>  so, any help with the top panel part in the tut? all i need is the first bit about changing the icon, that's it
[05:55] <Rly> I'm getting problems when I try to resize a drive with gparted
[05:55] <nemik> yea ok then i guess. i'd still do it but yea get a cheap dlink then for PCMCIA. nothing  by netgear
[05:55] <Rly> anyone can help?
[05:55] <cablesm102> holycow, what help do you need with sudo on dapper?
[05:55] <White_Lightning> yeah
[05:55] <nemik> so how can i stop my 'Network Places' connections from all appearing on the desktop? there are way too many....
[05:55] <Candamir> if the install cd (desktop) says my ntfs partition is corrupt, is there anything i can do with ubuntu?
[05:56] <rellik> how can I find out the best driver to use with my 3com NIC?  the one ubuntu uses by default doesn't seem to work very well, but I thought 3com was very linux-friendly
[05:56] <KDan> find -name 'todelete.txt' | rm <<< that doesn't work, what am I doing wrong?
[05:56] <White_Lightning> well, the internal on this machine doesn't have the kind of range I would expect so it won't be a total loss, I just wish the the how-to for broadcome that they provide on the site for edgy actually worked
[05:57] <Silver>  Any help?
[05:57] <White_Lightning> the card is active, it just refuses to connect / pick up the router
[05:57] <Silver>  its just a simple you cant do it? or what?
[05:59] <Silver>  Hello?
[05:59] <Rly> I'm getting problems when I try to resize a drive with gparted
[05:59] <Rly> anyone can help?
[06:00] <cablesm102> Can anyone help Rly with resizing an NTFS partition?
[06:00] <Rly> thank you, cablesm102
[06:01] <cablesm102> Rly, you might want to mention NTFS next time you ask for help
[06:01] <Rly> ok, thank you
[06:02] <dwid>  
[06:02] <_archangel> is it still possible to upgrade from hoary->breezy->dapper -> edgy ?
[06:03] <wastrel> _archangel:  in theory :] 
[06:03] <_archangel> but the repos don't support the files now
[06:03] <thinkmassive> I just resized ntfs with ntfsresize
[06:03] <_archangel> :\
[06:03] <thinkmassive> now I'm having trouble moving it to the back end of the partition
[06:03] <dwid>    
[06:03] <thinkmassive> I've found some old references to ntfsmove but seems like it was never released
[06:03] <rellik> how can I find out the best driver to use with my 3com NIC?  the one ubuntu uses by default doesn't seem to work very well, but I thought 3com was very linux-friendly
[06:05] <Yun1> how do you install hardware drivers.... im new to linux
[06:05] <cablesm102> Yun1, it depends on the driver
[06:05] <Yun1> its for a intel PRO 10/100
[06:05] <Yun1> NIC
[06:05] <cablesm102> Can anyone help me set my HD to automatically spin down?
[06:06] <wraith> Anyone got any microsoft jokes?
[06:06] <Yun1> lol
[06:06] <wraith> I'm in need of a laugh right now :-(
[06:06] <cablesm102> not to spoil anybody's fun, but
[06:06] <cablesm102> !offtopic
[06:06] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:06] <wraith> lol
[06:06] <cablesm102> that channel's WAY more fun!
[06:06] <cablesm102> and we're getting bored in there...
[06:07] <Yun1> so can anyone help me install a driver for a intel pro 10/100 NIC
[06:08] <dwid> 
[06:08] <felixhummel> hi
[06:09] <felixhummel> can I change mc shortcuts somehow?
[06:09] <dwid> 
[06:09] <felixhummel> or do I have to hack the sources?
[06:09] <dwid>   
[06:09] <felixhummel> Yun1, lspci
[06:10] <felixhummel> to see it's description (name, chipset, ...)
[06:10] <task0> where it supposed to mount drivers? in /mnt or in /media?????????
[06:10] <felixhummel> then google
[06:10] <felixhummel> task0, /media
[06:10] <felixhummel> task0, mount drivers?
[06:10] <task0> mount partitions
[06:10] <felixhummel> drives u mean, right?
[06:10] <task0> yes
[06:10] <felixhummel> yeah
[06:10] <task0> and waht is mtn for then?
[06:10] <felixhummel> sudo mkdir /media/something
[06:11] <Yun1>  so can anyone help me install a driver for a intel pro 10/100 NIC
[06:11] <felixhummel> dunno exactly
[06:11] <Yun1> oh whoop
[06:11] <danny> Hi folks! I'm very new to Linux. I need to know how to get Linux to detect my external HD. When I power the HD on nothing happens. What should I do?
[06:11] <felixhummel> for backwards compatibility i presum
[06:11] <felixhummel> e
[06:11] <task0> hehe
[06:12] <Yun1> felix... i need to install a NIC driver
[06:12] <Yun1> not a  drive
[06:12] <atrus> totem-xine is playing video alot choppier than xine, in particular, a dvd. seems to really chug when it's in fullscreen mode. any suggestions?
[06:12] <felixhummel> danny, after pluggin in the drive, type "dmeg | tail" (without quotes)
[06:13] <felixhummel> open a dialog with me and show me the results
[06:13] <felixhummel> Yun1, yeah
[06:13] <felixhummel> Yun1, when u type lspci, u get a list of all pci-attached devices
[06:13] <felixhummel> your NIC should be in it
[06:14] <felixhummel> Yun1, try "lspci | grep -i Intel"
[06:14] <felixhummel> brb
[06:14] <ransomheartache> is running ubuntu on a RAID 1 something that would be reasonable for a semi-noob to do?
[06:14] <tonyyarusso> ransomheartache: RAID 1 doesn't really accomplish much
[06:15] <ransomheartache> tonyyarusso: regardless, how doable is it?
[06:15] <tonyyarusso> ransomheartache: If you install via the !alternate disk, clicking a few options around :)
[06:15] <felixhummel> ransomheartache, how SEMI? compiled your own kernel?
[06:16] <ransomheartache> no, i know squat about kernel hacking
[06:16] <tonyyarusso> ransomheartache: Seriously, it's all built in.  If you can read and your hardware is supported properly, I expect it would be a breeze.  Haven't done it myself, but I've seen the stuff in the installer.
[06:17] <gadung> #surabaya
[06:18] <ransomheartache> i tried the regular installer briefly, i don't recall seeing anything about it
[06:18] <ransomheartache> but i wasn't looking too hard
[06:18] <holycow> anyone here have experience with dapper and sudoers ... specifically setting up user access to individual binaries?
[06:19] <rob_p> holycow: What are you trying to do?
[06:21] <holycow> just give a restricted user sudo access to network-admin and time-admin.  i can give the user FULL sudo access, but not access to specific binaries
[06:22] <blanky> hey guys
[06:22] <blanky> how do i play a sound
[06:22] <blanky> to test it
[06:22] <blanky> anyone?
[06:22] <blanky> I wanna test to see if I have sound, through the terminal
[06:22] <blanky> I want to play one
[06:23] <rob_p> holycow: You should be able to do something like, "user ALL= command1, command2, etc."
[06:23] <maddash> holycow: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=11144&view=previous&sid=b9921c4b73d0ac70646691cf793bb066 this deals with sudo shutdown, but you can transplant it to give access to network-admin, etc.
[06:23] <blanky> anyone? :(
[06:23] <blankfaze> can someone tell me what the boot parameter "vga=771" does?
[06:23] <blankfaze> techinically speaking
[06:24] <holycow> rob, appearently thats what i thought, but it keepos on saying password is incorrect.
[06:24] <holycow> :/
[06:24] <holycow> maddash, looking, danke
[06:24] <maddash> blankfaze: sets graphics mode to bios vga 771
[06:25] <rellik> how can I find out the best driver to use with my 3com NIC?  the one ubuntu uses by default doesn't seem to work very well, but I thought 3com was very linux-friendly
[06:25] <blankfaze> maddash: the reason i ask:  when i try to boot ubuntu from live CD with no params, i get a black screen with blinking cursor.  when i add "vga=771", i get the ubuntu logo and progress bar but it is off-centre and after a few mins the colors go all weird
[06:26] <maddash> blankfaze: try other vga modes
[06:26] <felixhummel> blankfaze, it sets video resolution
[06:26] <rebelfallen> Guys question. If I have a wireless router feeding my windows box, can I connect an ethernet cable to my OTHER router, and connect my linux box to that router and feed my linux box the wireless connection?
[06:26] <maddash> blankfaze: try 'vga=ask'
[06:27] <felixhummel> maddash, thx, I was looking for something like that
[06:27] <holycow> nope not working
[06:27] <ledemente> Hi all, I've got something really bad going on.
[06:27] <rebelfallen> cause im trying to set up my linux with a wireless usb card that I need to install software for but i cant connect to the net to do it
[06:27] <holycow> would either of you have dapper onhand and just try to give one of your restricted user account sudo to time-admin for example?
[06:27] <blankfaze> maddash:  will do.  i'm really seriously trying to make the jump from windoze but i am having a lot of trouble just getting ubuntu to boot :-)
[06:27] <danny> Where am I supposed to type "dmeg | tail" to access my external HD. (sorry for being such a noob)
[06:27] <holycow> i'm curious if its a dapper thing or my install thing
[06:27] <Bugz__> wow..
[06:28] <ledemente> I turned on my computer and it said something about "tty" and "Service not turned on"
[06:28] <ledemente> I can't seem to log on at all.
[06:28] <Bugz__> anyone in here that can help with nVidia sound problems?
[06:28] <rob_p> holycow: Yeah.  The sudo mechanism has to be picky because the whole integrity of the system's security depends on it.  visudo wrapper should help protect you from syntax errors in your /etc/sudoers file though.  You might have to experiment a little to get the syntax right.
[06:28] <metusine> i've read in the agile book that you should put destructive requests behind a post (ie button). is there any way you can use css or something to use an image as/on the button? (ie, a delete icon)
[06:28] <Dregin|PSP> is there anyway I can have a terminal open with an SSH connection to a remote server on startup of edgy? I already have keys setup to login into the server without needing a username or password entered....
[06:28] <holycow> rob_p, i really don't think its syntax anymore, i've tried everything in the last few hours
[06:29] <felixhummel> danny, U run ubuntu with gnome?
[06:29] <holycow> i'm starting to think its a bug
[06:29] <danny> I'm using KDE
[06:29] <ledemente> I believe it is a corrupt filesystem.
[06:29] <Bugz__> no its not.. I RESENT that holycow
[06:29] <Bugz__> :P
[06:29] <wraith> Everything is corrupt these days.
[06:29] <ledemente> I want to move my /home directory onto another drive.
[06:29] <Bugz__> my babies are quite qualified to be normal..
[06:29] <ledemente> Then reformat.
[06:29] <Yun1> how do i turn on bridge-utils?
[06:29] <maddash> holycow: what's not working? what did you try?
[06:29] <wraith> You can't reformat a corrupt government in power.
[06:29] <holycow> maddash, for 4 hours now yes
[06:30] <ledemente> Then move the original /home back.
[06:30] <holycow> it keeps on saying password not correct
[06:30] <ledemente> wraith: ?
[06:30] <holycow> maddash, i can give the user world sudo priviledges, but not specific to a binary
[06:30] <seravitae> Hi guys, i am trying to install/compile an smp kernel for ubuntu and it is giving me all hell
[06:30] <Bugz__> heh.. you havnt beat my time holycow..
[06:30] <wraith> I'm talking about the corrupt american government
[06:30] <seravitae> i installed gcc3.3 and ncurses
[06:30] <ledemente> Oh.
[06:30] <holycow> heh bugz_
[06:30] <Bugz__> im going on about 4 days of figuring this sound problem out, holycow
[06:30] <seravitae> and i get /bin/sh: gcc-3.3: not found
[06:30] <seravitae> -e
[06:30] <seravitae> >> Unable to find the Ncurses libraries.
[06:30] <ledemente> Does anyone think they're able to help me?
[06:30] <felixhummel> Dregin|PSP, try "gnome-terminal -x ssh ssh-parameters"
[06:31] <holycow> Bugz__, for that sort of thing i just give up and buy new hardware
[06:31] <maddash> holycow: you said that before. have you visudo'ed?
[06:31] <Dregin|PSP> felixhummel: thanks
[06:31] <rob_p> holycow: Standby... I'll do some checking on one of my boxen...
[06:31] <wraith> Is there any channel on this server dedicated to programming?
[06:31] <ledemente> I'm in a slight panic. All my music and files are at stake.
[06:31] <Bugz__> Its not the hard-ware..
[06:31] <holycow> maddash, absolutely, wouldn't without it
[06:31] <Bugz__> its stupid ubuntu
[06:31] <felixhummel> Dregin|PSP, then put it into startup programs (plz thank me when it works) ;)
[06:31] <Bugz__> it works great in windows..
[06:31] <ledemente> wraith: which language?
[06:31] <holycow> rob_p, appreciate it trully!
[06:31] <wraith> c++ or java
[06:31] <rob_p> holycow: First of all, do you want the user to have to enter his/her password to access the priv'd binary?
[06:31] <maddash> holycow: pastebin your /etc/sudoers
[06:31] <felixhummel> wraith, http://www.phrack.org
[06:31] <Bugz__> I did find some interesting information out though, holycow.
[06:31] <ledemente> Then #C++ or ##java ?
[06:32] <wraith> I use ubuntu but im more interested in coding.
[06:32] <holycow> Bugz__, not its the hardware, typically its not supported
[06:32] <Yun1> felix: check PM
[06:32] <wraith> felixhummel, is that site updated regularly? (thanks for the link)
[06:32] <Bugz__> I found out that microsoft assigned a driver to nVidia Sound-Card called SigmaTel High Definition Audio CODEC
[06:32] <holycow> Bugz__, if it doesn't work out of the box 99.9% of the time it just isnt supported ... that sort of hardware is usually thrown out around hrere
[06:32] <ledemente> I'm unable to use my mouse on the LiveCD, so I can't easily use Google.
[06:32] <holycow> maddash, absolutely, thank you, one sec
[06:33] <Bugz__> nVidia Sound card NOT supported??? Then I think ill rethink about my Operating System options..
[06:33] <holycow> no
[06:33] <Dregin|PSP> felixhummel: it worked perfectly, thanks :)
[06:33] <Bugz__> Even Macs support nVidia Sound Cards..
[06:33] <felixhummel> seravitae, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:33] <holycow> rethink your purchasing decisions
[06:33] <felixhummel> Dregin|PSP, nice :)
[06:33] <holycow> you bought hardware without researching
[06:33] <holycow> bugz_, you are probably using nforce 6 chipset
[06:33] <bugz_> Bugz__, ?
[06:33] <Bugz__> nVidia Sound-Cards are the best I have come across..
[06:33] <Bugz__> how would I find that out?
[06:33] <holycow> thats not supported until the .20 kernel set at least
[06:33] <ledemente> Creative, ahem?
[06:33] <holycow> bugz_, its not a card
[06:34] <holycow> its a chipset
[06:34] <holycow> the cards are fine
[06:34] <holycow> the chipsets come in nforce 1, 2, 3, etc
[06:34] <holycow> you bought too early, before the kernel supports it
[06:34] <holycow> wait 6 months and it will work
[06:34] <seravitae> felixhummel: build-essential is installed as well
[06:34] <seravitae> already way.
[06:34] <Bugz__> ...
[06:34] <seravitae> was*
[06:34] <Bugz__> WAIT!?
[06:34] <rob_p> holycow: Do you want the user to have to enter his/her password to access the priv'd binary(s)?
[06:34] <Bugz__> wtf..
[06:34] <holycow> Bugz__, i just got bit by nforce6 chipset my self, i put 3 mobos on the shelf to wait for the right kernel to appear
[06:34] <ledemente> Anyone? I really really need a hand.
[06:34] <maddash> holycow: you're still having trouble with running network-admin w/o sudo, rah?
[06:34] <holycow> Bugz__, translation research
[06:34] <Bugz__> ok.. how do I find my chipset info?
[06:35] <holycow> maddash, yes sorry trying to give this dude a bit of an insight before he gives up ... posting now
[06:35] <felixhummel> wraith, yes it is
[06:35] <felixhummel> wraith, see http://www.phrack.org/archives/62/p62-0x10_World_News.txt
[06:35] <holycow> rob_p, yes i do, its safer
[06:35] <felixhummel> I just love this story
[06:35] <wraith> Okay, thanks
[06:35] <rob_p> holycow: ok
[06:35] <Yun1> i need to use bridge-utils but i don't know how to start it can someone help?
[06:35] <ledemente> How do I check what harddrives are in use?
[06:36] <felixhummel> seravitae, did u sudo apt-get install ncurses-dev?
[06:36] <Bugz__> ok.. you said you have the Chipset6, holycow. If thats the case.. I just bought this laptop in December.. doesnt that mean it should be the nForce6?
[06:37] <felixhummel> ledemente, what do u mean?
[06:37] <felixhummel> mounted?
[06:37] <felixhummel> mount
[06:37] <holycow> not really but hardware manufacturers just buy everything in bulk, whatever is available, they don't care
[06:37] <felixhummel> brb
[06:37] <holycow> windows users don't check for chipsets they just dl whatever installer and run it trusting it will work
[06:37] <holycow> i bought about the same time btw
[06:37] <ledemente> felixhummel: I need to see which harddrives are mounted, or in use.
[06:38] <ledemente> Because if the second one is free, I will need to format it. Then move /home onto it.
[06:38] <Bugz__> ok let me get this straight.. the chipsets are designed for Windows??
[06:38] <seravitae> felixhummel: yep ncurses-dev is installed as well, already
[06:38] <Bugz__> NOT designed for whatever platform a user is running?
[06:38] <hayden> ledemente, $ mount
[06:38] <danny> Is there any way to get the clock in KDE to show AM/PM instead of 24 hour?
[06:38] <PirateSmurf_> The chipsets are supported by Windows first, as it has the largest marketshare
[06:38] <holycow> bugz_,  no
[06:38] <holycow> nvidia releases drivers
[06:39] <holycow> drivers simply dont get ported to older kernels, they tend to be compiled for new ones
[06:39] <Bugz__> ok.. but I can find the nVidia Driver, correct?
[06:39] <Bugz__> and then force ubuntu to USE that drive..
[06:39] <Bugz__> driver*
[06:39] <holycow> no one backported nforce6 yet, i asked tho and had them start on it
[06:39] <ledemente> mount shows the contents of a/the harddrive(s).
[06:39] <holycow> bugz_, no you would haveto compile your own
[06:39] <ledemente> But doesn't indicate whether the second is free.
[06:39] <Bugz__> how exactly do you know its an nforce6?
[06:40] <Bugz__> is it a date/time sort of thing?
[06:40] <holycow> http://pastebin.ca/335239
[06:40] <holycow> maddash, there ya go, i appreciate a looksee
[06:40] <holycow> bugz_, because i have 3 mobos sitting on the shelf here with no network, sound or vide acceleration
[06:41] <Bugz__> but.. I suppose what im asking is.. how did YOU find out they were the nforce6 chipset?
[06:41] <ledemente> felixhummel: ?
[06:41] <Bugz__> terminal information suposedly?
[06:41] <holycow> andi bought them for the same reason you did, i forgot to look up what version of nforce chipset it is ... but thats what we get for dealing with hardware companies that dont give a damn
[06:41] <Bugz__> hmm
[06:41] <holycow> i pointed kernel maintainers to the mobo model
[06:41] <holycow> its actually on it somewhere ... lol
[06:42] <Bugz__> wow.. didnt know that..
[06:42] <Bugz__> so.. are you saying my wireless has the nforce chipset 6 probably too, which is why it wont work either?
[06:42] <holycow> just wait a while, it will just magically work during an upgrade
[06:42] <Bugz__> I think the motherboard is all nVidia..
[06:42] <holycow> correct
[06:43] <holycow> rob_p, any luck?
[06:43] <Bugz__> ok.. so thats what ill do..
[06:43] <hayden> ledemente, check s/hdbX
[06:43] <ledemente> Huh?
[06:43] <holycow> Bugz__, yeah sorry, see the thing with linux is that everything is like legos.  you just find out what fits where an dplug it ... with some exceptions like my sudo problem
[06:43] <holycow> so research really solves most things ahead of time
[06:44] <aidan> need help
[06:44] <aidan> seting up samba server
[06:44] <Bugz__> but what if it isnt the nForce6 chipset problem..
[06:44] <Bugz__> what if I had an earlier version of the chipset?
[06:44] <holycow> bugz_, nforce just works actually
[06:44] <Bugz__> but something went kapoop somewhere..
[06:44] <holycow> you dont really haveto do anything except install nvidia video drivers
[06:44] <Bugz__> ohh.. so if it doesnt work.. its not ready to work just yet..
[06:44] <FlipFlopNFly> Anyone have experience getting beryl to work with an ATI Radeon X300?
[06:45] <Bugz__> the update will install the updated chipset6 drivers and everything for me?
[06:45] <holycow> Bugz__, most likely ... but you know, i don't know if you fried something on hardware install
[06:45] <ledemente> felixhummel: What does that mean?
[06:45] <Bugz__> and make it work without any effort in the future?
[06:45] <Bugz__> no.. I didnt..
[06:45] <holycow> Bugz__, eventually yes ... not sure if the support is comming this release or next
[06:45] <Bugz__> I have a multi-boot
[06:45] <Bugz__> I can boot in windows.. and it works great
[06:45] <hayden> ledemente, sdb or hdb (depending on the type of hard  drive you have) is the second hard drive, if you see hdb1 or hdb2 after you run $mount that means that the first or second partition on the second hard drive is mounted
[06:45] <Bugz__> ubuntu just doesnt have any sound
[06:45] <willys_fueguino> night everyone.... What command or script should I use to run firestarter as root on the X session startup??
[06:45] <holycow> right, kernel gets updated, modules get updated and like magic things turn on
[06:46] <Bugz__> when is the release expected?
[06:46] <holycow> Bugz__, well like i told you, this has nothing to do with ubuntu
[06:46] <Bugz__> you can fry a driver?
[06:46] <T7s_brother> I'm having this problem with firefox on LTS always freezing out of no where. Anyone know what is up.
[06:46] <Bugz__> or what did you mean?
[06:46] <ledemente> felixhummel: I don't see hdb anywhere.
[06:46] <holycow> no fry something on your  mobo
[06:46] <ledemente> I guess that means it's not partitioned/mounted?
[06:47] <ardchoille42> T7s_brother, Did you install any plugins?
[06:47] <Bugz__> but if it works fine in windows.. then it would presumably work in other OS's.. hence it wouldnt be fried..
[06:47] <Bugz__> correct?
[06:47] <hayden> ledemente, you aren't talking to felixhummel, if there is no sdb or hdb the second hard drive is not mounted
[06:47] <holycow> maddash, so pretty standar sudoers file right? should work i think
[06:47] <T7s_brother> ardchoille42: no
[06:47] <seravitae> felixhummel: don't suppose you have any other ideas heh
[06:47] <Yasi8h> i want to get all the mp3 support, DVD, java...etc to ubuntu by running some single program, what would you recommend?
[06:47] <FlipFlopNFly> whats wrong Bugz?
[06:47] <T7s_brother> ardchoille42: only on is the language pack
[06:47] <holycow> Bugz__, no, nvidia releases drivers for windows
[06:47] <holycow> and osx
[06:47] <Bugz__> right.. I got that part..
[06:47] <ledemente> hayden: sorry, the "highlight" colour is bright yellow and I couldn't read it. XD
[06:47] <holycow> on linux they are open sourced and th ekernel maintainers package up the driver modules
[06:48] <Bugz__> but the HARD-WARE wouldnt be fried if it worked in windows..
[06:48] <hayden> ledemente, no problem :)
[06:48] <holycow> you can download the osurce nforce drivers your self, compile and install
[06:48] <Bugz__> the software.. IE: Drivers, ChipSets, Modules etc..
[06:48] <Bugz__> would cause the problem
[06:48] <willys_fueguino> anyone knows what command or script should I use to run firestarter as root on the X session startup??
[06:48] <holycow> Bugz__, well YOU FRICKIN asked if it could be the hardware
[06:48] <ledemente> hayden: so, "mount -t ext2 /dev/hdb /mnt/BACKUP/
[06:48] <holycow> now you know it can't, i'm tellin g you its probably nforce6, take it or leave it
[06:49] <Bugz__> ok
[06:49] <holycow> i don't know why i haveto repeat my self, i am trying to help you you know
[06:49] <Bugz__> will
[06:49] <Bugz__> :)
[06:49] <ledemente> Except that returns an error, so I think I need to format the drive, I wish to use it as temporary storage.
[06:49] <hayden> ledemente, you also need to specify the partition number, e.g. /dev/hdb1
[06:49] <rob_p> holycow: Sorry about that!  My remote server (the one I was IRCing through) seems to be suddenly disconnected from the 'Net!  :-(
[06:49] <ledemente> I didn't think it was partitioned...
[06:49] <FlipFlopNFly> What wrong bugz?
[06:49] <holycow> rob_p, ah no worries, was hoping to verify ... appreciate that
[06:49] <holycow> rob_p, http://pastebin.ca/335239
[06:50] <Bugz__> obviously the nForce6 chipset doesnt work on ubuntu
[06:50] <Yasi8h> >	Hello there, i want to get all the mp3 support, DVD, java...etc to ubuntu by running some single program, what would you recommend?
[06:50] <holycow> can you take a peek and tell me if something is out of the ordinary?
[06:50] <Bugz__> something I had no idea about..
[06:50] <holycow> Bugz__, jesus hell dude
[06:50] <holycow> it has nothing to do with ubuntu
[06:50] <Bugz__> what?
[06:50] <Bugz__> ...
[06:50] <rob_p> holycow: user ALL=(ALL) command1, command2, etc.
[06:50] <Bugz__> it does..
[06:50] <ledemente> hayden: I didn't think it was partitioned...
[06:50] <Bugz__> and other os's too..
[06:50] <holycow> just the goddamned drivers are not ported to this kernel.  man, c'mon work with me here
[06:50] <rob_p> holycow: That seems to work on one of my FC5 boxes.
[06:50] <holycow> oh for f's sake then go to those oses
[06:51] <Bugz__> yeah.. thats what I meant..
[06:51] <holycow> i'm tired of babysitting
[06:51] <willys_fueguino> anyone knows what command or script should I use to run firestarter as root on the X session startup??
[06:51] <Bugz__> wow.. dude.. really chill
[06:51] <holycow> rob_p, okay cool.
[06:51] <Bugz__> thats what I said in other words..
[06:51] <holycow> ill try that
[06:51] <holycow> Bugz__, okay :) sorry
[06:51] <Bugz__> the nForce6 chipset doesnt work with ubuntu BECAUSE it hasnt been ported to linux yet..
[06:51] <Bugz__> hows that?
[06:51] <Bugz__> :P
[06:51] <siimo> anyone know how i can defrag a reiserfs partition ?
[06:51] <holycow> Bugz__, i'm glad you decide to try ubuntu ... theres a lot to learn but after a while is just easy
[06:52] <Bugz__> its just more of a complicated step than usual..
[06:52] <holycow> Bugz__, wrong again, the drivers have not been ported to the KERNEL VERSION used in edgy/dapper
[06:52] <Bugz__> its hard to understand something you have no previous knowledge about..
[06:52] <holycow> they actually exist on the latest kernels
[06:52] <T7s_brother> so does anyone know why my firefox seems to just crazy out of no where on me?
[06:52] <Bugz__> ok..
[06:52] <willys_fueguino> siimo: the reiserFS doen's need to as far as I know
[06:52] <Bugz__> well.. im new to linux completely..
[06:52] <holycow> Bugz__, that part i'm willing to work you through :)
[06:52] <Bugz__> so I didnt understand the kernal part..
[06:52] <FlipFlopNFly> firefox problems?
[06:52] <hayden> ledemente, there must be one partition only then, unless it is free space
[06:53] <T7s_brother> FlipFlopNFly: yes I have firefox problems
[06:53] <ledemente> There is only one partition.
[06:53] <siimo> willys_fueguino: thats what i heard too but then its running really slow
[06:53] <ledemente> hayden: I have another harddrive...
[06:53] <Bugz__> wait.. they work on previous versions of kernels?
[06:53] <FlipFlopNFly> Did the problem always occur?
[06:53] <cafuego_> siimo: easiest way is to not use reiser.
[06:53] <Bugz__> err.. wow.. this is just complicated..
[06:53] <SilentDis> hello :)
[06:53] <hayden> ledemente, hdb1 ;)
[06:53] <T7s_brother> FlipFlopNFly: since I installed the machice today.
[06:53] <Bugz__> ok I understand it doesnt work because its not ported into ubuntu edgy
[06:54] <willys_fueguino> siimo: no idea  :-(
[06:54] <T7s_brother> it has also has been doing it on my laptop for a while now
[06:54] <holycow> Bugz__, no kernel versions are release in orde 2.6.8, 2.6.9, etc
[06:54] <ledemente> hayden: I tried that, but it's not ext2, and I have no idea what it is.
[06:54] <Bugz__> so, does it work on the linux.. or is ubuntu linux?
[06:54] <siimo> cafuego_: well i used ext2 and ext3 and sometimes when my computer crashes i get data corruption on the drive... with reiser i never lose data in those events
[06:54] <Bugz__> or what exactly is Ubuntu??
[06:54] <holycow> dapper is on 2.6.15
[06:54] <FlipFlopNFly> both with Ubuntu?
[06:54] <Bugz__> what is edgy on?
[06:54] <T7s_brother> yes
[06:54] <T7s_brother> both LTS
[06:54] <holycow> nforce 6 drivers are included with the 2.6.20 kernels
[06:54] <Bugz__> 2.6.10 right?
[06:54] <ledemente> hayden: anything other than "hdb" "does not exist".
[06:54] <cafuego_> siimo: You're *very* lucky then. Reiser doesn't have mature recovery tools, so when it goes.. it goes.
[06:54] <holycow> anything before just needs to be compiled an dbackported by someone
[06:54] <Bugz__> for edgy eft
[06:54] <FlipFlopNFly> Are both on the same network?
[06:55] <SilentDis> i'm getting an error from grip "unable to initalize [/dev/cdrom] ".  I assume something is holding it open or watching it... is there any way to either check what is referencing that device, and/or release/clear it?
[06:55] <T7s_brother> yes
[06:55] <holycow> but things move so quickly that its easier to just make do and wait
[06:55] <hayden> ledemente, try $ fdisk -l
[06:55] <Bugz__> so dapper drake is newer than edgy eft?
[06:55] <cafuego_> bugz_no
[06:55] <siimo> cafuego_: but when you have to use recovery tools you are already in trouble,,,
[06:55] <FlipFlopNFly> I haven't heard of a problem with Firefox and LTS .. could you have a network problem causing intermittants?
[06:55] <cafuego_> siimo: Not at all.
[06:55] <Bugz__> are they at the same kernels?
[06:56] <ledemente> hayden: nothing...
[06:56] <SilentDis> Bugz__, Dapper 6.06 is kernel 2.6.15 or so.  Edgy 6.10 is 2.6.17
[06:56] <Asc> Bugz_: Edgy runs 2.6.17 by defaut. It was released four months after Dapper.
[06:56] <holycow> Bugz__, no
[06:56] <Bugz__> just different bases?
[06:56] <ledemente> hayden: Ooops.
[06:56] <Bugz__> ok
[06:56] <cafuego_> siimo: fsck allows you to replay the journal on ext3 in case of an unclean shutdown, this is *good* not bad :-)
[06:56] <Bugz__> I see now
[06:56] <holycow> cafuego, do you have any experience  with sudo and dapper?
[06:56] <T7s_brother> no.. because I just installed this box today but I have been running LTS on my laptop since it came out
[06:56] <Bugz__> so why run dapper drake if we have edgy?
[06:56] <ledemente> hayden: "can not open /dev/hdb"
[06:56] <cafuego_> bugz_: stability
[06:56] <willys_fueguino> anyone knows what command or script should I use to run firestarter as root on the X session startup??
[06:56] <cafuego_> holycow: howso?
[06:56] <Bugz__> edgy has stability issues?
[06:57] <SilentDis> bugz_, long term support (esp on server packages).
[06:57] <FlipFlopNFly> So ... your thinking it is directly related to LTS
[06:57] <Bugz__> I thought it was a stable release..
[06:57] <holycow> Bugz__, because its a long term support release.  i use it for work thus getting 3years support on the desktop is a good deal imho
[06:57] <cafuego_> bugs_; "stable"
[06:57] <ledemente> Bugz__: yes, very much so.
[06:57] <seravitae> okay so i ran make menuconfig and configed my kernel, then i saved it, and typed make, and i got make[1] : *** No rule to make target `init/main.o', needed by `init/built-in.o'.  Stop.
[06:57] <seravitae> make: *** [init]  Error 2
[06:57] <T7s_brother> FlipFlopNFly: not quite but it only does it on my ubuntu box with LTS
[06:57] <seravitae> any ideas?
[06:57] <Asc> Edgy's stability has been fine for me.
[06:57] <holycow> cafuego, i cannot give individual users sudo access to individual binaries
[06:57] <cafuego_> holycow: Does it complain about syntax error?
[06:57] <FlipFlopNFly> Did you add any strange extensions ... add ons
[06:57] <holycow> user ALL=(ALL) command1  <-- doesn't work on this dapper install
[06:57] <holycow> cafuego, nope, visudo works great
[06:58] <Bugz__> hmm.. ok holycow, didnt you say dapper drake had a port for nForce6 chipset?
[06:58] <ledemente> hayden: I'm confused as to what it's indicating though.
[06:58] <SilentDis> i'm getting an error from grip "unable to initalize [/dev/cdrom] ".  I assume something is holding it open or watching it... is there any way to either check what is referencing that device, and/or release/clear it?
[06:58] <Bugz__> or where did I get that from..
[06:58] <holycow> as user it either bounces the password or tells me sudo doesn't allow running that binary
[06:58] <cafuego_> holycow: did you add /path/to/command?
[06:58] <T7s_brother> FlipFlopNFly: nope. just the language pack.. the only thing I think that I installed on this base system is inkscape
[06:58] <holycow> i tried that too sam eproblem
[06:58] <holycow> cafuego, do you have a dapper lying around that can try a quick suo to a specific binary? i just want restricted users to change the time/date and network config
[06:59] <cafuego_> holycow: hmm, annoying. I don't have a dapper box to test on atm
[06:59] <hayden> ledemente, the type of partitions on all hard drives
[06:59] <holycow> i'm wondering if thisis a dapper bug ... rob_p says it works on fedora
[06:59] <hayden> ledemente, whether they are mounted or not
[06:59] <T7s_brother> FlipFlopNFly: it doesn't happen all the time. only about once a week
[06:59] <T7s_brother> but annoying when you have tons of tabs up
[06:59] <cafuego_> not one that has ssh open for me anyway
[06:59] <Bugz__> OOOH! I get it now.. 2.6.17.10 IS the linux base.. and ubuntu on my laptop is running Edgy Eft which is a release version OF ubuntu, correct?
[07:00] <holycow> cafuego, allright. edgy isnt' a good test case, according to malone there are some significant changes for sudo on that and some lockdown issues are apeparent
[07:00] <T7s_brother> and it does happen a lot when I'm using gmail.com
[07:00] <holycow> Bugz__, bingo!
[07:00] <Bugz__> :D
[07:00] <holycow> linux is just the kernel
[07:00] <holycow> its one file about 3 megs large
[07:00] <Bugz__> kernel in other words.. is like the code behind closed doors..
[07:00] <Bugz__> and ubuntu is my window in the door
[07:00] <holycow> the rest is just tools around that to make the user environment productive
[07:00] <holycow> Bugz__, thats one way of putting it *nod*
[07:00] <Bugz__> I see now..
[07:01] <holycow> the kernel simply manages the hardware for you
[07:01] <Bugz__> so the nForce6 chipset is ported to what at the moment besides windows?
[07:01] <FlipFlopNFly> have you checked /var/log/syslogs
[07:01] <holycow> your software talks to th ekernel, the kernel controls hardware, and passes data back and forth
[07:01] <Bugz__> yep.. thats how I got it in my head now..
[07:01] <Bugz__> :D
[07:01] <holycow> when you open up a hard drive your file browser doesn't actually see the drive it talks to the kernel and it passes info back and forth
[07:02] <holycow> so in order for the kernl to talk to nforce6 chips it needs drivers
[07:02] <Bugz__> so.. the kernel is open source, or is that ubuntu thats open source?
[07:02] <holycow> older that 2.6.20x kernels just don't have it built in unless someone is nice neough to compile the driver modules and share them
[07:02] <rob_p> holycow: I just verified that, "user ALL=(ALL) command" works on one of my Ubuntu boxes too!
[07:02] <holycow> Bugz__, pretty much everything is
[07:02] <Bugz__> ok... so the nForce6 chipset just needs the drivers to work?
[07:02] <holycow> rob_p, oh neat!
[07:02] <Bugz__> and everything is ready?
[07:03] <holycow> rob_p, dapper by chance?
[07:03] <ledemente> Aghh! Did anyone catch what hayden said?
[07:03] <T7s_brother> FlipFlopNFly: nope nothing unusual
[07:03] <ledemente> I missed it.
[07:03] <holycow> Bugz__, thats what i'm waiting for.  i went out and bought replacement mobos (intel chipset) and i will wait until these nforce6 ones are supported
[07:03] <rob_p> holycow: Nope!  Breezy.
[07:03] <Bugz__> well they have tools like wine, would it be possible for wine to emulate a driver?
[07:03] <holycow> rob_p, actually thats even better, okay gives me a framework to work off of
[07:04] <ledemente> Bugz__: O_O
[07:04] <holycow> rob_p, thank you.  i will do another install and test
[07:04] <holycow> bugz_, nope
[07:04] <T7s_brother> FlipFlopNFly: right now I'm running with firefox --debug
[07:04] <rob_p> holycow: Welcome.  Good luck.
[07:04] <Bugz__> how does a person go about getting this driver, erm.. *cough* before they release it?
[07:04] <FlipFlopNFly> Has the debugger lead to anything conclusive?
[07:04] <Bugz__> would it be possible to recompile from a windows driver?
[07:04] <holycow> rob_p, i'm so bloddy close too
[07:05] <Bugz__> or are my options just pretty much limited right now because of this driver issue..
[07:05] <holycow> rob_p, i'm buying these great asus intel chipset laptops that yo uput together your self
[07:05] <T7s_brother> FlipFlopNFly: nope nothing yet..
[07:05] <holycow> everything works awesome except a few inty things like the modem .. .but now i run into this!
[07:05] <holycow> gah!
[07:05] <holycow> :)
[07:05] <willys_fueguino> I need some help here to use sudo...
[07:05] <holycow> Bugz__, well actually the opposite is true
[07:05] <Bugz__> opposite?
[07:06] <rob_p> holycow: Sounds fun!
[07:06] <holycow> Bugz__, the thing about linux is that a) everything is mostly sensible and sane.  the whole damned thing is so modular it spectacularly easy to run and make do stuff
[07:06] <holycow> b) its incredibly powerfull and flexible as a result you can make it do anything
[07:06] <Bugz__> sounds good so far..
[07:06] <holycow> c) what that means is if the drivers are open sourced (nforce drivers are ACTUALLY open sourced), you can take the source and compile it for your kernel
[07:06] <holycow> so
[07:06] <Bugz__> maybe reverse engineering a driver might help me start..
[07:07] <Bugz__> wait..
[07:07] <holycow> while the drivers are going to appear in the mainline kernel at some later date
[07:07] <Bugz__> but I have no intel on how to do that..
[07:07] <holycow> you can go get the drivers now your self, compile and install
[07:07] <holycow> BUT
[07:07] <holycow> your haveto frickin know what your doing :)  that in it self is a learning process
[07:07] <holycow> Bugz__, right
[07:07] <holycow> thus its not linux thats limited
[07:07] <Bugz__> hmm
[07:07] <holycow> IT'S YOU thats limited
[07:07] <ledemente> Okay. I'm still kinda stuck.
[07:07] <holycow> catch my drift?
[07:07] <ledemente> Oooh.
[07:07] <ledemente> Nasty.
[07:07] <holycow> not at all
[07:08] <Bugz__> HAHA... thats great to hear.. but on the other hand.. not so good, cuz I feel dumb now..
[07:08] <gpm> haha
[07:08] <gpm> you're not dumb
[07:08] <gpm> programming device drivers has never been easy
[07:08] <Bugz__> well programming in common isnt easy..
[07:08] <holycow> Bugz__, brother,you and me both
[07:08] <Bugz__> I used to program in VB and C++
[07:08] <holycow> i've been doing this for quite a while and i still feel like a dipshit
[07:08] <Bugz__> but it seems only C++ is supported by linux
[07:08] <holycow> uh no
[07:08] <gpm> haha
[07:08] <holycow> EVERYTHING is supported in linux
[07:08] <ledemente> There's that other VB language...
[07:08] <gpm> yes
[07:09] <holycow> gnome is written in c
[07:09] <holycow> kernel in c
[07:09] <ledemente> Uh... gambas/
[07:09] <gpm> there's a lot more c than c++ i think
[07:09] <Bugz__> yeah.. but I dont know their syntax..
[07:09] <gpm> in *nix in general
[07:09] <holycow> virtually everything in the environment has some goddamned binding for any language under the sun
[07:09] <holycow> infact
[07:09] <holycow> thats actually a problem
[07:09] <Bugz__> but VB is Microsoft.. and its base is the Windows
[07:09] <holycow> a lot of devs complain that they don't have mother goose from redmond telling them how to work and code
[07:09] <willys_fueguino> I need help; How can I make the sudoers let "willy" user the firestarter program as root without asking for a password, what line should be added to the sudoers file??
[07:09] <gpm> but you said you learned some C++
[07:09] <ledemente> Okay, I want to partition hdb.
[07:09] <holycow> they haveto make their own decisions now
[07:09] <ledemente> How do I do this?
[07:09] <Bugz__> infact.. when they built VB.. they intended it for Windows.. and thus put windows binaries in it
[07:09] <holycow> you know, freedom is hard
[07:10] <gpm> ledemente: cfdisk, fdisk, gparted
[07:10] <Bugz__> yep
[07:10] <gpm> ledemente: gparted is probably the easiest
[07:10] <holycow> willys_fueguino, brother if you find out let me know.  i've fought with exactly that thing for the last 6 hours
[07:10] <seravitae> hey i booted up with ubuntu edgy's default -generic kernel for smp/dual core support
[07:10] <ledemente> gpm: not when I can't move the mouse.
[07:10] <Bugz__> brb gotts goto bathroom
[07:10] <Bugz__> :)
[07:10] <ledemente> Oh wait a minute...
[07:10] <seravitae> now nvidia in xorg doesnt work, i lost all my window edges so i cant even minimise or close programs
[07:10] <holycow> willys_fueguino, here is my sudoers file that doesn't work on dapper for some reason, maybe it will work for you:  http://pastebin.ca/335239
[07:10] <gpm> ledemente: haha, yeah that sucks. probably cfdisk then then
[07:10] <gpm> ledemente: it's not too hard to use
[07:10] <gpm> ledemente: just less pretty
[07:11] <shatrat> seravitae, when you change kernels you have to reinstall the graphics driver. That may be your problem
[07:11] <holycow> seravitae, are you sure? sounds lik eyour running beryl actually
[07:11] <willys_fueguino> holycow: uff..... I tried it already with some books sintax over here.... but didn't worked out :-\
[07:11] <ledemente> Or, I could just install on the second harddrive and them move "/home" across.
[07:11] <MasterShrek> holycow and willys_fueguino i believe you type visudo as root, and add this line:  username   ALL=(ALL)    command
[07:11] <seravitae> holycow: i was running beryl on the other kernel fine
[07:11] <gpm> ledemente: the possibilities are endless
[07:11] <seravitae> no reason why it shouldnt load though in the other kernel?
[07:11] <holycow> master_o2_master, thats wrong that gives all users sudo ... which is VERY bad
[07:11] <gpm> just be careful
[07:11] <ledemente> Then, I'd have to somehow shoft myself back onto the main large drive.
[07:11] <holycow> seravitae, beryl crashses actually EXACTLY like that.  i had to reinstall a few times
[07:11] <MasterShrek> my bad, its:   username   ALL=(ALL)    NOPASSWDcommand
[07:11] <willys_fueguino> MasterShrek: If i edit sudoers lets say with nano, and add that line to the sudoers file, won't work right?
[07:11] <seravitae> mmk
[07:12] <MasterShrek> my bad, its:   username   ALL=(ALL)    NOPASSWD ; command
[07:12] <gpm> there's nothing worse than realizing you've fucked your own partition table
[07:12] <MasterShrek> ugh im off or something
[07:12] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | gpm
[07:12] <ubotu> gpm: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:12] <holycow> seravitae, not sure why or how to fix it or if the latest is better.  just a heads up. notice i knew the problem without asking questions ... :)
[07:12] <MasterShrek> its NOPASSWD: command
[07:12] <seravitae> how can i run metacity at least
[07:12] <gpm> tonyyarusso: seriously?
[07:12] <gpm> ok
[07:12] <willys_fueguino> hahahaha
[07:12] <MasterShrek> yea it probably would willys_fueguino
[07:12] <holycow> MasterShrek, oh dude ... THAT IS THE WORST piece of advice i have ever seen
[07:12] <willys_fueguino> MasterShrek: then how would it be??
[07:12] <willys_fueguino> X'D
[07:12] <holycow> with that one line you will be owned by a frickin windows 98 user
[07:12] <holycow> damn dude
[07:13] <holycow> MasterShrek, that turns off all your password, VERY VERY VERY BAD
[07:13] <seravitae> shatrat: can you define what you mean by reinstall the drivers
[07:13] <holycow> note to all: whatever you do, DON'T put that in your sudoers file
[07:13] <holycow> hehe ;)
[07:13] <seravitae> dpkg-reconfigure or nvidia-configure?
[07:13] <Bugz__> back
[07:13] <holycow> or if you do give me your ip
[07:13] <willys_fueguino> X'D
[07:13] <holycow> i need some server space
[07:13] <holycow> -_-
[07:13] <holycow> *cough*
[07:13] <Bugz__> server space?
[07:13] <Bugz__> as in webhost space?
[07:14] <holycow> Bugz__, its a joke :)
[07:14] <Bugz__> I own a webserver
[07:14] <MasterShrek> yea, well wehn u learn how to use sudo holycow , let me konw, then u tell me what the damn command is
[07:14] <Bugz__> :P
[07:14] <Bugz__> SNHosting.org
[07:14] <felixhummel> brb
[07:14] <felixhummel> don't talk too much here as i will reboot :P
[07:14] <aciddrops> hello
[07:14] <gpm> wow
[07:14] <gpm> just wow
[07:15] <aciddrops> graphically what is a good way to kill a non responding process
[07:15] <gpm> with the system monitor
[07:15] <gpm> i guess
[07:15] <aciddrops> like when firefox doesnt work
[07:15] <frogzoo> aciddrops: htop
[07:15] <holycow> MasterShrek, i have a sneaky suspicion that sudoers is broken in dapper
[07:15] <aleha> hello . guys howto ubuntu+amd64+flash? anyone can help?
[07:15] <holycow> but i will setup some duplicate installs to test before posting
[07:15] <seravitae> shatrat: I still have no idea what exactly i'm reinstalling here. my xconfig should not need to be changed if i change a kernel
[07:16] <seravitae> and i can't even run synaptic to find the entire nvidia package simply because I can't open any programs.
[07:16] <willys_fueguino> I need help; How can I make the sudoers let "willy" user the firestarter program as root without asking for a password, what line should be added to the sudoers file??
[07:16] <seravitae> because i don't have a window manager that will run, because beryl crapped out.
[07:16] <frogzoo> aciddrops: xkill
[07:16] <MasterShrek> seravitae whats your graphics card?
[07:16] <seravitae> dual 7300gts working fine in the -386 kernel
[07:16] <holycow> willys_fueguino, actually its MasterShrek's line but you need to add the username of the user in front of that
[07:16] <MasterShrek> hmm, did u try the drivers from nvidias site
[07:17] <holycow> start ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/network-admin
[07:17] <MasterShrek> no shit holycow wow, weird i was right, nice smart ass remark dumbass
[07:17] <holycow> something similar to that
[07:17] <seravitae> dude, i had dual screens running working fine on -386 kernel
[07:17] <holycow> hey, go fuck your self, m'kay?
[07:17] <seravitae> all i did was go to -generic kernel on grub menu.
[07:17] <TheSkorm> ok
[07:17] <Bugz__> ?
[07:17] <Bugz__> o.0
[07:17] <willys_fueguino>  not helpful holycow
[07:17] <holycow> your just telling everyone that line out of context so they can get nicely owned
[07:17] <aidan> hey
[07:17] <frogzoo> seravitae: if your driver changed, you can need to alter xorg.conf sometimes
[07:17] <seravitae> frogzoo: how did my driver change?
[07:18] <aidan> need help settin up automatix
[07:18] <MasterShrek> holycow> MasterShrek, oh dude ... THAT IS THE WORST piece of advice i have ever seen
[07:18] <grok_linux> just upgraded from dapper to edgy. getting the following errors msg: 'artsmessage - sound server fatal error - cpu overload, aborting' can anyone offer any advice on this?
[07:18] <MasterShrek> dont talk shit if you cant back it up
[07:18] <DBO> MasterShrek, holycow, cut it out, both of you, you can have your cock fight elsewehre
[07:19] <Bugz__> I agree DBO
[07:19] <MasterShrek> wait, screw this room, ubuntu is a noob distro anways
[07:19] <Bugz__> dude..
[07:19] <aidan> anyone willin to help setup easyubuntu
[07:19] <Bugz__> chill Shrek
[07:19] <Bugz__> if its so noob.. why dont you build a better one?
[07:19] <DBO> Bugz__, he left
[07:19] <grok_linux> he loeft
[07:19] <Bugz__> hmm
[07:20] <aidan> lol bugz
[07:20] <Bugz__> im using Chatzilla
[07:20] <Bugz__> x.X
[07:20] <Bugz__> I dont see parts
[07:20] <Bugz__> XD
[07:20] <Bugz__> Shrek (Green Guys) < ubuntu
[07:20] <aidan> anyone willing to help me setup easyubuntu or automatix
[07:20] <DBO> Bugz__, try to keep the random chatter to a minimum too =)
[07:20] <DBO> !easyubuntu
[07:20] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[07:20] <Bugz__> even though I have to admit.. green is my favorite color..
[07:21] <ardchoille42> !automatix | aidan
[07:21] <ubotu> aidan: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:21] <graft> yo - i have this really weird problem where audio starts locking up and just repeating ad infinitum - like error beeps just go on incessantly, beep beep beep
[07:21] <graft> it seems to pop up randomly, no warning in syslog or dmesg or anything
[07:21] <Bugz__> can we at least TALK about ubuntu?
[07:21] <graft> killing apps doesn't seem to fix it
[07:21] <DBO> graft, are you the only person with access to your PC?
[07:21] <graft> yeah
[07:22] <DBO> Bugz__, yeah, but offtopic stuff in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:22] <graft> it's a fresh install, two days old
[07:22] <DBO> graft, just curious because I used to pull pranks on people following that general idea
[07:22] <holycow> Bugz__, did i answer most of yoru questions?
[07:22] <graft> um, how did you achieve this?
[07:22] <Bugz__> now where did holycow go.. so I can try to understand some more ubuntu
[07:22] <Bugz__> yes you did holycow..
[07:22] <Bugz__> but im still lacking a little here and there..
[07:22] <DBO> graft, usually putting something in their .bashrc or their .profile
[07:23] <Bugz__> would you happen to know how to compile a driver?
[07:23] <felixhummel> re
[07:23] <aidan> anyone wiling to help setup samba
[07:23] <felixhummel> aidan, for sure
[07:23] <Bugz__> you said nForce drivers were opensource.. correct?
[07:23] <holycow> Bugz__, just give it time, i'm not certain anyone ever trully leaves the noob stage
[07:23] <graft> DBO: well it's making flash lock up in browser windows, so it'd have to be some pretty clever bash scripting
[07:23] <aidan> thanks felixhummel
[07:23] <DBO> graft, ah is it only happening with flash?
[07:24] <holycow> yes they are
[07:24] <felixhummel> aidan, thank me afterwards ;)
[07:24] <Bugz__> but I wont have any use for ubuntu then.. I mainly wish to use it to listen to my 5GIGs worth of music..
[07:24] <aidan> ok i try to apt get it right and it comes up with this
[07:24] <graft> nope, mplayer as well
[07:24] <willys_fueguino> @sudoers
[07:24] <Bugz__> since its ease of use, I love ubuntu, especially the friendly layout.. (GUI) it has..
[07:24] <willys_fueguino> !sudoers
[07:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sudoers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:24] <aidan> aidan@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install samba
[07:24] <aidan> Password:
[07:24] <aidan> Sorry, try again.
[07:24] <aidan> Password:
[07:24] <aidan> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:24] <aidan> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[07:24] <aidan> Edit/Delete Message
[07:24] <DBO> graft, what about other sound producing programs?
[07:25] <felixhummel> bugz_, u need xmms or xmms2 or amarok or mpd with ncmpc
[07:25] <holycow> Bugz__, plus your a programmer.  feel free to contribute.  i love helping out on the channel .. its geat.
[07:25] <graft> DBO: um, aplay also does it
[07:25] <holycow> time to for some stake
[07:25] <holycow> steak even
[07:25] <holycow> heh
[07:25] <DBO> aidan, do you have synaptic open?
[07:25] <felixhummel> aidan, u have another package management system open
[07:25] <DBO> graft, are you using ESD?
[07:25] <Bugz__> indeed.. ill stay around and help if I can.. but I dont know much about the linux platform or ubuntu for that matter..
[07:25] <felixhummel> aidan, either synaptic or (aptitude or apt-get in another console)
[07:25] <graft> DBO: nope, no esd, no arts... just pure alsa
[07:26] <aidan> no i cant see one
[07:26] <felixhummel> aidan, try sudo killall <programs mentioned before>
[07:26] <DBO> aidan, sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[07:26] <DBO> if you are 100% sure no other package managers are open
[07:26] <Bugz__> felixhummel, where would I go about getting those utilities?
[07:27] <graft> aidan: check your system tray
[07:27] <DBO> graft, you arent getting anything from dmesg either hmm?
[07:27] <felixhummel> bugz_, apt-cache show <the name>
[07:27] <DBO> graft, does sound continue to play after this happens?
[07:27] <aidan> came up with this
[07:27] <aidan> aidan@ubuntu:~$ sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[07:27] <aidan> Password:
[07:27] <aidan> aidan@ubuntu:~$
[07:27] <metal03> Anyone can help me with configurations I need to do to be able to sync my palm...  :S
[07:27] <graft> DBO: um, it continues to play, but it always stutters
[07:27] <DBO> aidan, now try
[07:28] <felixhummel> bugz_, apt-cache show xmms xmms2 amarok mpd ncmpc
[07:28] <willys_fueguino> willy@Kubuntu-Dapper:~$ sudo nano /etc/sudoers
[07:28] <willys_fueguino> >>> sudoers file: syntax error, line 17 <<<
[07:28] <willys_fueguino> sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 17
[07:28] <graft> DBO: well, it continues to play the first half-second or what-not
[07:28] <felixhummel> bugz_, to get them use sudo apt-get install xmms xmms2 amarok mpd ncmpc
[07:28] <Bugz__> btw.. what kinds of pc's does ubuntu work on?? do you suppose I could rewrite my bios on a small PDA with a USB slot to use ubuntu utilties?
[07:28] <willys_fueguino> My advice to you: Don't modify the sudoers file like a text file
[07:28] <Bugz__> or a linus kernel?
[07:28] <Bugz__> linux*
[07:29] <felixhummel> aidan, and does sudo apt-get install samba work now?
[07:29] <bulmer> willys_fueguino: do not, do not use nano, use visudo
[07:29] <frogzoo> Bugz__: really little point trying to run ubuntu on a low mem device
[07:29] <DBO> graft, that effect is almost universally a driver bug, what sound card?
[07:29] <metal03> I'm trying to sync my PalmOS device with Linux and I can't seem to make it work...  anyone can help?
[07:29] <willys_fueguino> bulmer: I don't know how... and the man isn't very helpful on that :-\
[07:29] <Bugz__> what would be the recommended LOWEST memory?
[07:29] <Bugz__> 256MB?
[07:29] <aidan> i think so
[07:30] <Bugz__> hmm
[07:30] <bulmer> willys_fueguino: man visudo
[07:30] <graft> DBO: ATI IXP onboard ac 97 muckity-muckity
[07:30] <frogzoo> metal03: sys -> prefs -> rmvbl devcs -> PDAs
[07:30] <felixhummel> metal03, this is a hard one...
[07:30] <willys_fueguino> Bugz__: 128
[07:30] <felixhummel> metal03, see http://www.felixhummel.de/tiddlywiki.html#PalmSynchronization
[07:30] <felixhummel> maybe it helps
[07:30] <Bugz__> thats even better willys
[07:30] <Bugz__> :D
[07:30] <aidan> zy-backports_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)W: Couldn't stat source package list http://au.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/au.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[07:30] <aidan> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[07:30] <aidan> aidan@ubuntu:~$
[07:30] <willys_fueguino> bulmer: as I said, isn't helpful...
[07:31] <Bugz__> how much hard-drive space does the whole ubuntu OS require?
[07:31] <felixhummel> aidan, do as u r told: sudo apt-get update
[07:31] <felixhummel> ;)
[07:31] <bulmer> willys_fueguino: you have heard of google... :)
[07:31] <graft> DBO: sorry IXP SB400, i should say
[07:31] <aidan> did that b4 ok ill try again lol
[07:31] <frogzoo> Bugz__: 2gig min - but up to 10gig if you install everything
[07:31] <willys_fueguino> Bugz__: you CAN use tab for auto-complete nicks
[07:31] <aidan> aidan@ubuntu:~$ apt-get update
[07:31] <aidan> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[07:31] <aidan> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[07:31] <aidan> aidan@ubuntu:~$
[07:31] <willys_fueguino> Bugz_: ;-)
[07:32] <willys_fueguino> aidan: sudo apt-get update
[07:32] <rpc> damn it this is emergency... do you guys know how to move mouse pointer with keys on win XP? i can't damn move it and go back to my linux
[07:32] <rpc> something broke out of the blue :(
[07:32] <Bugz__> oi.. thanks :D I didnt know that willys_fueguino
[07:32] <aidan> arh thanks
[07:32] <DBO> aidan, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock (that lockfile needed to go too)
[07:32] <graft> man this would be great timing if i have hardware issues... my warranty just ran out!
[07:32] <metal03> Felixhummel : What's Evolution...  the link on your site is broken (it seems)
[07:32] <DBO> aidan, ignore my last if its working now
[07:33] <willys_fueguino> rpc: you can't do it activating an option on the control panel
[07:33] <aidan> working now thanks
[07:33] <maddash> does anyone know of a good tutorial on remote accessing an ubuntu box?
[07:33] <DBO> graft, has it ever worked right?
[07:33] <rpc> willys_fueguino all i can do right now is just type in here
[07:33] <DBO> !ssh | maddash
[07:33] <ubotu> maddash: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[07:33] <rpc> nothing else works on my dual screen because of this damn mouse prob :/
[07:33] <bulmer> maddash: google for ssh tutorial
[07:33] <Bugz__> and thanks, frogzoo, that will help me in the future..
[07:33] <willys_fueguino> rpc: what about alt + tab??
[07:33] <graft> DBO: yeah it's worked perfectly for months, until i did this new install
[07:33] <willys_fueguino> oh... dual screen...
[07:34] <DBO> graft, did you upgrade at the same time?
[07:34] <aidan> Reading package lists... Done
[07:34] <aidan> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://au.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/au.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages)
[07:34] <aidan> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[07:34] <willys_fueguino> never "worked" with that :-S
[07:34] <rpc> willys_fueguino he he that works but still... not sure what has happened to the mouse
[07:34] <DBO> aidan, you can safely ignore that
[07:34] <felixhummel> metal03, http://www.gnome.org/projects/evolution/
[07:34] <aidan> ok
[07:34] <aidan> what now then
[07:34] <Bugz__> hey felixhummel, which one is the most recommended.. xmms xmms2 amarok mpd ncmpc
[07:34] <willys_fueguino> rpc: I think that's a normal issue with winbugs... I had that some times...
[07:35] <Bugz__> or.. which one would you recommend..
[07:35] <willys_fueguino> rpc: the only fix?? reboot
[07:35] <rpc> willys_fueguino i was trying to install virtualbox...
[07:35] <willys_fueguino> rpc: or install ubuntu better
[07:35] <glick> man all these packages have such complicated build processes
[07:35] <graft> DBO: upgrade? meaning what? i did a vanilla edgy install, then dist-upgraded to be current with edgy
[07:35] <rpc> willys_fueguino and it locked my usb ports i believe
[07:35] <huda_hudi> hi everyone
[07:35] <DBO> graft, were you running edgy before is what I meant
[07:35] <graft> DBO: yeah... but i wiped the drive anyway
[07:35] <aidan> What now BDO
[07:35] <rpc> willys_fueguino was installing vbox to install ubuntu :/
[07:36] <macosxneed> where can i get a mac os?
[07:36] <rpc> and no, reboot means a disaster
[07:36] <DBO> aidan, hmmm, what problem are you having?
[07:36] <macosxneed> Vmware problem need mac os
[07:36] <DBO> graft, I see...  well, I hate to say it, but I really have no idea where to go with it...
[07:36] <aidan> aidan@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install samba
[07:36] <aidan> Reading package lists... Done
[07:36] <aidan> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:36] <aidan> samba is already the newest version.
[07:36] <aidan> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 14 not upgraded.
[07:37] <willys_fueguino> rpc: install it form scratch on your sistem... just make sure you have the data backup... format your drive, install ubntuu and you'll be "FREE"
[07:37] <aidan> aidan@ubuntu:~$
[07:37] <DBO> aidan, please dont paste in here
[07:37] <graft> DBO: yeah... not sure meself... thanks for considering it anyway
[07:37] <felixhummel> bugz_, depends... I am used to winamp, so I chose xmms. xmms2 is it's successor. amarok is a big music player with database, big gui, whatever - it couldn't manage to import my 200GB of music, so I discarded it.
[07:37] <DBO> aidan, however what do you want to do?
[07:37] <rpc> willys_fueguino i will do it, and might rather install xp inside after
[07:37] <gilbert_> hi all, i wanna know how to make local system user send out email using FQDN
[07:37] <DBO> graft, has anything changed in BIOS?
[07:37] <felixhummel> bugz_, mpd is a server daemon and ncmpc is it's console client
[07:37] <aidan> link my ubuntu pc desktop to my windows pc desktop pc
[07:37] <graft> DBO: hm, shouldn't have
[07:37] <Bugz__> ok thanks.
[07:37] <DBO> !samba | aidan
[07:37] <ubotu> aidan: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:37] <frogzoo> felixhummel: audacious > xmms
[07:37] <rpc> lol what a funny situation, all i can do is type here on my second screen lol
[07:38] <Bugz__> I like winamp so I think ill go with your choices..
[07:38] <DBO> aidan, the second link =)
[07:38] <rpc> usb ports seem dead
[07:38] <felixhummel> frogzoo, I'll give it a try, thx
[07:38] <aidan> and also BDO
[07:38] <Bugz__> btw does xmms have its own skins, or can it import winamps skins too?
[07:38] <felixhummel> can someone plz give me the command for "copy ~/web/index.html to ftp://ftp.mydomain.com/html/"?
[07:38] <hayden> !nfs
[07:38] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[07:39] <huda_hudi> how do i start bitchx in ubuntu
[07:39] <willys_fueguino> rpc: are you sure on that??
[07:39] <aidan> need help someone said on a forum to ethier use easyubntu or automaticx so i can play mp3 on ubuntu
[07:39] <Bugz__> felixhummel: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup_2007001312149 /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:39] <willys_fueguino> rpc: of the USB
[07:39] <DBO> huda_hudi, open a terminal and run "bitchx"
[07:39] <Bugz__> is what I was told to copy
[07:39] <Marupa> Is there a way to install Ubuntu from DSL?
[07:39] <Bugz__> just replace xorg.conf with your file names
[07:39] <DBO> !mp3 | aidan
[07:39] <ubotu> aidan: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:39] <huda_hudi> bitchx
[07:39] <felixhummel> bugz_, :D no i want to copy from my hdd to my ftp server
[07:39] <Marupa> (the linux, not the Internet service)
[07:39] <Bugz__> oh
[07:39] <Bugz__> sry
[07:39] <Bugz__> im new.. im just trying to help..
[07:40] <felixhummel> never mind ;)
[07:40] <huda_hudi> it says command not found
[07:40] <felixhummel> that honors u, bugz_
[07:40] <felixhummel> :)
[07:40] <Bugz__> :)
[07:40] <aidan> BDO i tryed that heaps and all i do is go round in circles
[07:41] <willys_fueguino> aidan: you CAN use TAB to auto-complete the nicknames
[07:41] <willys_fueguino> XDDD
[07:41] <felixhummel> so I have mounted my ftp directory in nautilus. how can I access this from console?
[07:41] <DBO> aidan, my name is DBO first off, I keep missing your messages because its not pinging me =P  secondly, where are you having issues with the instructionss?
[07:41] <felixhummel> aidan, u just need a player and the codecs
[07:42] <felixhummel> DBO, i think aidan is in good hands ;)
[07:42] <glick> hey I ran chkrootkit and I got warning: Possible LKM Trojan installed
[07:42] <glick> what does that mean?
[07:42] <huda_hudi> is there any other irc client other than bitchx? bitchx wont run from terminal in ubuntu
[07:42] <Bhaskar> how to install grub from live/installation cd
[07:43] <bulmer> glick: google is your friend
[07:43] <aidan> DBO,
[07:43] <tonyyarusso> huda_hudi: Sure.  irssi, gaim, xchat, etc.
[07:43] <willys_fueguino> aidan: ;-)
[07:43] <tonyyarusso> !irc | huda_hudi
[07:43] <ubotu> huda_hudi: irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[07:43] <Bugz__> I do have a sort of off-topic question..
[07:43] <tonyyarusso> Bugz__: #ubuntu-offtopic is good for those
[07:43] <aidan> how do u ping users ROFLMAO
[07:43] <huda_hudi> oops I am sorry for the trouble. looks like I never installed it. I thought it was there by default. sorry again guys
[07:43] <Marupa> I can't burn any disks, because the computer I want to install Ubuntu on has a broken CD rom drive.  It can't read CDs, so I have to boot it on USB stick.  Is there any way to install Ubuntu on it?
[07:43] <Bugz__> Programs labeled Linux Compatible.. when downloading programs, would that mean it works with ubuntu too?
[07:44] <bulmer> Marupa: make sure your mobo supports booting off of a usb disk
[07:44] <DBO> aidan, simply by saying their name (but it has to be spelled properly)
[07:44] <Bugz__> well its not like that kind of off-topic.. it was off-topic to the sense, as what they were talking about.
[07:44] <Marupa> we're on DSL right now.
[07:44] <tonyyarusso> Bugz__: It "should".  Question of how much work it will take I'd say.
[07:44] <aidan> DBO
[07:44] <aidan> DBO ok
[07:44] <bur[n] er> Marupa: that's an interesting question... I'd check the wiki
[07:45] <aidan> D8O
[07:45] <bulmer> Marupa: simple then, just like installing DSL.
[07:45] <Byan> wtf..
[07:45] <Marupa> how do you mean, bulmer?
[07:45] <rpc> lol can't reboot the box even
[07:45] <Byan> how come after I chmod 666 a directory
[07:45] <Byan> I still can't cd i
[07:45] <Byan> it*
[07:45] <rpc> any ideas how to shut down xp using keyboard?
[07:45] <krang> !seen `Penumbra
[07:45] <ubotu> I last saw `Penumbra (n=Oversoul@ppp-68-91-32-170.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 1h 53m 27s ago, quiting:
[07:45] <DBO> aidan, ok lets just work through this slowly one at a time... first thing is samba
[07:45] <_root____> hi I am huda_hudi from bitchx :)
[07:46] <Byan> rpc: if it's logged in.. Win, u, u
[07:46] <bulmer> Marupa: you learned how to load another usb when using DSL?
[07:46] <_root____> its really cool
[07:46] <aidan> ok
[07:46] <Marupa> no, bulmer.
[07:46] <rpc> Byan i have no win key on my laptop :(
[07:46] <DBO> aidan, you can just right click on the folder you wish to share, and select "Share Folder"
[07:46] <Marupa> ctrl+escape, rpc.
[07:46] <bulmer> rpc:  you can use  shutdown /s /t 10
[07:46] <huda_hudi> :)
[07:46] <rpc> what a crazy situation, just the damn usb port died and i can't use mouse, all i can do is type here
[07:46] <aidan> is that all?
[07:46] <DBO> aidan, it will ask for your password
[07:47] <DBO> aidan, then you can select a drop down box, you want to select "Windows Networks" in there
[07:47] <rpc> Marupa thanks alot, that will set me free finally :)
[07:47] <alvarezp> rpc: win+m, alt+f4, u
[07:47] <rpc> bulmer console you mean?
[07:47] <DBO> aidan, name it as you like, and you are done
[07:47] <bulmer> rpc yes, in an xp cmd windows..use that command
[07:47] <Bugz__> !automatix
[07:47] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:47] <Bugz__> !WorksForMe
[07:47] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[07:47] <alvarezp> !WorksForMe
[07:48] <rpc> thanks very much - i will be back in a few...
[07:48] <Marupa> bulmer:  How do I do it?
[07:48] <Bugz__> !install
[07:48] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[07:48] <Bugz__> !install programs
[07:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about install programs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:48] <DBO> Bugz__, you can PM the bot those commands and not spam it here
[07:48] <bulmer> Marupa: off hand I dont remember it, visit DSL channel and they will tell you how to move software to a usb
[07:48] <Bugz__> sry
[07:49] <VxJasonxV> Is there a command line installer in kubuntu?  The documentation has `debian-installer` in a 'command name' type format, but that doesn't actually exist?
[07:50] <Marupa> alternatively, is there a way to have Ubuntu LiveCD on a USB?
[07:50] <Bugz__> Marupa, there is.
[07:50] <Marupa> how would one do it?
[07:51] <Bugz__> Marupa: I dont know the answer to that question, but I do KNOW it IS possible..
[07:51] <Bugz__> I seen someone being helped earlier on in the day, with a similar question, and he/she was booting from a USB Pen Drive.
[07:51] <shatrat> Marupa, there is a guide for doing it on help.ubuntu.com
[07:51] <Marupa> Thank you, shatrat.
[07:52] <shatrat> Good luck, I havent tried it myself
[07:52] <Bugz__> is it ok to idle in here?
[07:53] <shatrat> Bugz__, I hope so, I always do
[07:53] <Flannel> Bugz__: of course
[07:54] <Bugz__> I think im going to change my nick.. it seems someone likes my nickname too much..
[07:54] <Kenny> thats takin too?? grr
[07:55] <r_rehashed> doesn't edgy come with x11R71
[07:55] <r_rehashed> ?
[07:55] <r_rehashed> I have /usr/X11R6 in my directory
[07:55] <KennyR> Flannel: How do I register my name on this server?
[07:55] <_archangel> is there a trick to make dapper download the apt-get update ?
[07:55] <Flannel> KennyR: /msg nickserv help register
[07:55] <r_rehashed> and I haven't received any updates too
[07:55] <Marupa> all previous versions of Ubuntu can be updated to the new 6.10, right?
[07:56] <task0> please help!! for some reason ubuntu changed my partition table and now partition magic and other programs says there are errors!!! :(
[07:56] <Flannel> Marupa: eventually.  You can only upgrade one version at a time.
[07:56] <r_rehashed> task0: avoid Partition Magic.
[07:56] <r_rehashed> task0: I have faced a lot of problems with it
[07:57] <r_rehashed> use gparted
[07:57] <Tido> has anyone gotten an nvidia driver to work with 64 bit ubuntu or kubuntu?
[07:57] <KennyR> nvidia driver for video or sound?
[07:57] <task0> r_rehashed: TestDiskalso detects error
[07:57] <Tido> video
[07:58] <KennyR> if its the nForce6 chipset, the drivers arent ported to linux yet.
[07:58] <Tido> no, it's nforce4, but I was refering to my video card
[07:58] <task0> r_rehashed: windows partition manager shows unnalocated spaces of 1 mb y both my disks!!
[07:59] <_archangel> !xchat
[07:59] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.6-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 275 kB, installed size 760 kB
[07:59] <KennyR> or I should say Ubuntu.. other than that I wouldnt know.. but I was told 32bit at the moment is better than 64?
[07:59] <task0> r_rehashed: ubuntu is installed in other disk!!!
[07:59] <r_rehashed> ok
[07:59] <ubuntu_> hi
[07:59] <Flannel> KennyR: for most desktop apps, yeah.  Since a lot of the proprietary stuff still isn't available in 64bit
[07:59] <r_rehashed> ubuntu_: welcome
[07:59] <KennyR> thanks for clarrifying Flannel.
[08:00] <Flannel> KennyR: unless you're doing video/photo/other highend number crunching, (or have more than 4GB ram), you don't really benefit much from 64bit
[08:00] <task0> r_rehashed: what can i do?!
[08:00] <r_rehashed> Flanel: Xorg drivers version 7.1 contain intel's drivers for 64-bit Linux ?
[08:00] <KennyR> Flannel: I assumed only..
[08:00] <darweth> Hello folks.  I have a problem.  I was gone for 12 days and came back to a whole slew of Ubuntu updates (including Gnome updates).  Since then, I have been unable to drag and drop in Nautilus...
[08:00] <darweth> Is there anything I need to enable?
[08:01] <cmt^^> what's a good tool for ripping dvd's in ubuntu?
[08:01] <incorrect> -user type question,  i want to set up some sort of desktop reminders
[08:01] <r_rehashed> task0: windows will not be able to access or recognise your ubuntu ext3 partitions
[08:01] <Akuma_> what do i need to play flash movies with totem?
[08:01] <cmt^^> terminal-based, preferably
[08:01] <incorrect> evolution's don't seem to work very well
[08:01] <task0> r_rehashed: that's no my problem!
[08:02] <task0> r_rehashed: now i have both windows disk partition table with errors!
[08:02] <KennyR> Flannel: Im still a bit confused, when I use the command aplay -l, I get the Hard-ware name of NVidia, but when I use another command its set as intel..
[08:02] <task0> ubuntu is in another disk!
[08:02] <task0> r_rehashed: i don't understand why ubuntu changed things!
[08:02] <r_rehashed> hmm
[08:03] <KennyR> Flannel: Well actually.. now its showing something different from my last boot. Its showing HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia..
[08:03] <KennyR> Would could that mean?
[08:03] <cmt^^> !ripping
[08:03] <ubotu> For information about the Sound Juicer ripping application see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CDRipping. To rip an Audio CD in KDE, put it in and then put audiocd:// in the Konqueror URL bar
[08:03] <Flannel> KennyR: er... What are we talking about?  You sure you weren't talking to someone else about it?
[08:03] <task0> !partition
[08:03] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[08:03] <cmt^^> !ripping dvd
[08:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ripping dvd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:03] <r_rehashed> task0: if you are able to access your data.., isn't it ok if you ignore the errors?
[08:03] <cmt^^> :|
[08:03] <KennyR> Indeed
[08:04] <task0> r_rehashed: i don't think thats rigth!
[08:04] <KennyR> I was just a bit confused, and you were helping clarify some things..
[08:04] <KennyR> So I just thought id ask, Flannel
[08:04] <task0> r_rehashed: if partition are corrupted at some time they will fail!!
[08:04] <r_rehashed> !task0: I don't think your partitions are corrupt
[08:05] <task0> TestDisk also detects errors!
[08:05] <task0> not only partition magic!
[08:05] <r_rehashed> task0: what does gParted show?
[08:05] <bluefox83> ok, so...have they worked out the bugs in upgrading from breezy to egdy by inserting a new sources.list and then upgrading?
[08:05] <task0> r_rehashed: i'm in windows rigth now
[08:06] <task0> r_rehashed: can't switch rigth now---
[08:06] <r_rehashed> yeah. ok
[08:06] <task0> is reported that installing ubuntu changed partiotion table?!
[08:07] <_archangel> how do install Xchat ? or do build from source?
[08:07] <task0> r_rehashed: can i send you a pm?
[08:07] <r_rehashed> sure
[08:08] <KennyR> Could I get some help getting my Hard-Ware version, info, etc?
[08:08] <bluefox83> KennyR, hardware version of what?
[08:08] <KennyR> its an NVidia Sound-Card..
[08:08] <bulmer> KennryR somewhere under /proc there are files that have these info
[08:09] <KennyR> where is /proc?
[08:09] <bluefox83> KennethP, lspci and in /proc
[08:09] <pavs> is there any 64 bit wine I want to install it on my ubuntu. than I can officially stop using windows alltogether
[08:09] <KennyR> lspci doesnt give me much information on the specific card.
[08:11] <pavs> ping
[08:11] <KennyR> pong
[08:12] <task0> hello, does someone has partition problem experience?!!??!?!?
[08:12] <KennyR> bulmer: where at under /proc
[08:13] <KennyR> bulmer: all I see are a bunch of folders with numbers and some files
[08:13] <task0> please, partition programs are dettecting problems!
[08:14] <KennyR> task0: I just let ubuntu partition my hard-drive, and it worked great.
[08:15] <task0> KennyR: i'm having problems!
[08:15] <KennyR> task0: I can see..
[08:16] <task0> KennyR: i have 3 Hd's.... 1 and 2 windows.... 3 ubuntu
[08:16] <task0> but ubuntu changed things in 1 and 2!!!!
[08:16] <flemnos> is there a quick way in xchat to auto-scroll back up to the "you last saw the chat here" line?
[08:16] <KennyR> task0: I dont have experience with more than 1 hard-drive.
[08:16] <Renu_> how is better to install in text mode or oem mode?
[08:17] <task0> KennyR: :'(
[08:17] <KennyR> by oem mode do you mean, graphical mode
[08:17] <KennyR> like ubuntu installer?
[08:17] <Renu_> yes
[08:17] <incorrect> damn the beryl updates crashes
[08:17] <KennyR> I suggest the OEM mode for beginners..
[08:17] <KennyR> its simple, and effective
[08:17] <Renu_> ok
[08:18] <bulmer> KennyR: example cat /proc/cpuinfo
[08:18] <KennyR> the text mode requires typing of commands.
[08:18] <KennyR> thanks bulmer
[08:18] <Renu_> cause i m trting to install for 2 days
[08:19] <KennyR> well then id suggest the OEM Mode..
[08:19] <KennyR> as a beginner, thats what id suggest..
[08:19] <Renu_> ok
[08:20] <booyaka> what up ortiz
[08:20] <task0> hello, does someone has partition problems experience?!!??!?!?
[08:20] <ortiz> its kodeslaw these days booyaka
[08:21] <booyaka> ortiz did you install the packages for restricted formats?
[08:21] <booyaka> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[08:21] <ortiz> no i have heavy programs running right now
[08:22] <booyaka> what apps you have running?
[08:22] <ortiz> nicotine ..amsn ..myspace ..xmms ..gaim
[08:22] <dal> that's quite a heavy load ortiz
[08:23] <ortiz> true
[08:23] <dal> you might want to use xchat instead of gaim for irc
[08:23] <ortiz> thanks to fluxbox
[08:23] <TheSkorm> no
[08:23] <TheSkorm> nononono
[08:23] <TheSkorm> xchat sucks
[08:23] <TheSkorm> IRSSI
[08:23] <ortiz> irssi?
[08:23] <dal> IRSSI huh TheSkorm?
[08:23] <dal> what's so good about it TheSkorm?
[08:23] <TheSkorm> ___  _   __  __ ___
[08:23] <TheSkorm>  |  |_) (_  (_   |
[08:23] <TheSkorm> _|_ | \ __) __) _|_
[08:23] <TheSkorm> uh
[08:23] <TheSkorm> its quick, powerful
[08:24] <TheSkorm> easy to use
[08:24] <TheSkorm> you can put it in screen
[08:24] <dal> is it CLI?
[08:24] <TheSkorm> yup
[08:24] <TheSkorm> good once you get used to it
[08:24] <pppoe_dude> TheSkorm, please try to not paste large amounts of text in the channel
[08:24] <dal> my man ortiz is scared of the command-line
[08:24] <TheSkorm> why use a gui for a texted based protcol
[08:24] <maddash> irssi is cli
[08:24] <TheSkorm> wasnt a paste
[08:25] <hagabaka> where should i go to suggest adding a package for an application to ubuntu?
[08:25] <bur[n] er> hagabaka: launchpad.net ?
[08:25] <hagabaka> oh
[08:25] <hagabaka> do those requests usually get looked at?
[08:26] <dal> k I'm gonna give IRSSI a whirl. does it handle dcc transfers?
[08:26] <KennyR> hagabaka: they do..
[08:26] <miniman> How can I make it so other users cannnot execute anything?
[08:26] <hagabaka> cool, thanks
[08:26] <pppoe_dude> miniman, anything?
[08:26] <miniman> yes
[08:26] <KennyR> np hagabaka
[08:26] <pavs> i am using konversion on ubuntu
[08:27] <pppoe_dude> miniman, users can execute/change persmissions of things they own
[08:27] <booyaka> what up ortiz
[08:27] <pppoe_dude> miniman, one way would be to remove ownership of things
[08:27] <booyaka> you need to get irssi
[08:27] <booyaka> this ish is buttahz
[08:27] <Ch1ppy> hey, I have a kvcd in .bin format; is there any way I can play this?
[08:27] <pppoe_dude> Ch1ppy, mplayer plays .bin
[08:27] <KennyR> miniman: System > Administration > Users and Groups
[08:27] <KennyR> that might help you miniman.
[08:28] <miniman> What if I sudo chmod 677 -rf *?
[08:28] <miniman> Ah nevermind.
[08:28] <ahill> test
[08:28] <pppoe_dude> miniman, they can always change permissions of files they own
[08:29] <miniman> yeah
[08:29] <scrollzer> miniman: try scp?
[08:29] <ahill> pppoe_dude, can you read this? (just making sure it works)
[08:29] <Erb_> I have an external harddisk that I'd like to format. Ubuntu recognizes it as '/media/New Volume'. Can someone point me in the right direction?
[08:29] <pppoe_dude> ahill, ya
[08:29] <ahill> pppoe_dude, k thnks
[08:29] <Ch1ppy> pppoe_dude: hm, I managed to get it workign with some fiddling, but I'm missing the audio codec; any ideas on finding out which one I need/installing?
[08:30] <pppoe_dude> look at what command line says
[08:30] <booyaka> ortiz, just open xterm and type "sudo apt-get install irssi" without the quotes
[08:30] <ahill> pppoe_dude, you know a good website to learn linux (one that works with ubuntu?) im pretty new
[08:30] <booyaka> then launch it from the $ prompt by typing irssi
[08:30] <task0> is there eny way to completly remove access to ubuntu from a disk?
[08:30] <tojik> Hi all, I am running Ubuntu for the first time. Can it recognize the ntfs drives?
[08:30] <task0> i wnat ubuntu NOT seeing 2 hard drivres
[08:30] <pppoe_dude> ahill, best way to learn is to just use it
[08:31] <pppoe_dude> ahill, google is your friend and so is irc
[08:31] <ahill> pppoe_dude, k =)
[08:31] <KennyR> pppoe_dude: EDIT: I suggest using the forums..
[08:31] <KennyR> ahill: Ubuntu does come with a webpage with some support links for help..
[08:31] <booyaka> wikipedia's my friend too pppoe_dude
[08:31] <pppoe_dude> ahill, man pages can be very helpful
[08:31] <ahill> KennyR, oh ok I just didin't know if there is any site better for ubuntu
[08:31] <booyaka> tojik there's lots of documentation about reading from & writing to ntfs drives
[08:32] <ahill> well i know how to use sudo hehe
[08:32] <vasyl> hello
[08:32] <pppoe_dude> ahill, the Ubuntu Forums are pretty good if you need to solve problems/learn common things
[08:32] <KennyR> ahill: No The official Ubuntu site is the best, and easiest way to learn.
[08:32] <tojik> booyaka any links?
[08:32] <booyaka> tojik try ntfsprogs
[08:32] <ahill> k thnks
[08:32] <KennyR> ahill: Id also suggest using the google search engine..
[08:32] <KennyR> ahill: Google is your friend..
[08:33] <booyaka> tojik try http://www.linux-ntfs.org
[08:33] <ahill> sounds good
[08:33] <tojik> booyaka thanks
[08:33] <booyaka> or http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfsprogs
[08:33] <cyzie> hello, i have install 3945modules. now what i need to install in order to get the inet connection via wireless using gui ?
[08:33] <ahill> KennyR, whats the command to see how many people are in this chat room?
[08:34] <KennyR> What are you using, ahill.
[08:34] <ahill> kenny, xchat
[08:34] <pppoe_dude> cyzie, does your computer recognise the network card?
[08:34] <vasyl> I have some problems with XGL can someone help please I followed the steps on ubuntu wiki but when I start the XGL session all I see is the cursor and white screen ... nothing else appears, what is causing that? (I hear the startup music if it helps)
[08:34] <tojik> booyaka already reading. Thanks a lot
[08:34] <KennyR> ahill: Sorry I dont use xchat
[08:34] <ahill> KennyR, which one do you use?
[08:34] <KennyR> ahill: Possibly try /help
[08:34] <cyzie> pppoe_dude, yes, 3945d
[08:35] <KennyR> ahill: I like the ChatZilla, its a firefox Addons
[08:35] <KennyR> Addon*
[08:35] <pppoe_dude> cyzie, what happens if you type sudo network-admin?
[08:35] <pppoe_dude> cyzie, do you see the network card?
[08:35] <ahill> KennyR, im going to try that one
[08:35] <KennyR> ahill: OK
[08:35] <cmt^^> can someone tell me what to use to rip dvd's in ubuntu?
[08:35] <KennyR> DVD-Shrink
[08:35] <vasyl> cmt^^: dvd::rip
[08:36] <pppoe_dude> cyzie, if you want to connect to wireless using GUI, you need to make sure that you disable all interfaces from network-admin, install network-manager-gnome and let it handle networking
[08:36] <ahill> KennyR, how do i find that one for the linux firefox?
[08:36] <cyzie> pppoe_dude, no, i see only ethernet connection 0 and 1
[08:36] <cmt^^> !dvd::rip
[08:36] <ubotu> dvdrip: perl front end for transcode. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.98.1-0.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 718 kB, installed size 2084 kB
[08:36] <KennyR> cmt^^: And for some dvd's to be ripped in DVD-Shrink you need a program called DVD-Fab, but thats for windows.
[08:36] <cyzie> okie
[08:36] <KennyR> ahill: The addons work with the firefox you have..
[08:36] <pppoe_dude> cyzie, cyphase what does iwlist scanning yield?
[08:37] <KennyR> ahill: Goto the Addons Page in Firefox, and do a search for ChatZilla
[08:37] <cyphase> pppoe_dude: uhh..
[08:37] <ajax_> Hey guys...I just installed Edgy. I followed the instructions on the Restricted Modules page but I can't get the flash player to work with Firefox. Anyone want to help me sort it out?
[08:37] <ahill> KennyR, oh ok
[08:37] <vasyl> anyone has experience with troubleshooting XGL?
[08:37] <mabus_> how can I make ubuntu start up faster? it takes about 2 minutes to boot while my old gentoo system took <1 minute
[08:37] <pppoe_dude> vasyl, @ubuntu-xgl
[08:37] <KennyR> ahill: http://en-us.add-ons.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/2.0/extensions/
[08:37] <pppoe_dude> vasyl, #ubuntu-xgl
[08:37] <KennyR> that will help you, ahill
[08:38] <cyzie> pppoe_dude, 1 moment
[08:38] <ahill> KennyR, do you have to know french to use it?
[08:38] <KennyR> ahill: Im 100% english..
[08:38] <mabus> juding by the en-us... probably not
[08:38] <KennyR> mabus: Good observations..
[08:39] <Erb_> Why is the format option greyed out in GParted?
[08:39] <KennyR> ahill: Are you still having troubles finding it?
[08:39] <gpm> Erb_: you don't have access (you need to authenticate or sudo it)
[08:39] <pppoe_dude> Erb_, u need to unmount drives before you format
[08:39] <KennyR> ahill: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/16/
[08:39] <gpm> oh yeah
[08:39] <someothernick> Erb_, is the drive mounted?
[08:39] <gpm> that too
[08:39] <Erb_> I'll try....
[08:39] <gpm> so many things
[08:39] <KennyR> that will take you directly to the ChatZilla Addon.
[08:39] <ahill> KennyR, i found it but when  i click "install now" it does nothing
[08:40] <KennyR> ahill: Are you using firefox?
[08:40] <Renu_> installation step failed........:((
[08:40] <ahill> KennyR, yes version 2.0.0.1
[08:40] <KennyR> ahill: It should pop up a small dialog. With a wait prompt.
[08:40] <KennyR> ahill: Then it should have the option to Install
[08:41] <Renu_> i can not install ubuntu
[08:41] <Renu_> help
[08:41] <booyaka> why not Renu_?
[08:41] <ahill> hmm
[08:41] <booyaka> don't you have the live cd?
[08:41] <KennyR> Renu_: Whats the problem?
[08:41] <cyzie> pppoe_dude, i install the modules
[08:41] <Erb_> OK, what should I format to? ext3 or ext2?
[08:41] <Renu_> the failling step is:select and install software
[08:41] <cyzie> but iwconfig show no interface configureed
[08:41] <cyzie> :-s
[08:42] <ahill> KennyR, well I'll have to goto bed but Ill play with it tomorrow thanks for the help!
[08:42] <mabus> Renu_: what about it fails?
[08:42] <KennyR> ahill: No Problem, glad I could help
[08:42] <Renu_> i don t know
[08:42] <Renu_> i tried with a live cd
[08:42] <Renu_> and somebody told me to try the alternate cd
[08:43] <KennyR> well everyone im off to bed..
[08:43] <KennyR> g' night
[08:43] <glick> damn i cant build ethereal in ubuntu
[08:43] <mabus> I can only recall a "select and install software" step on server edition, when it asks you to install dns/lamp
[08:43] <mabus> glick: wireshark
[08:43] <Renu_> if i want to install from live cd is not pasing the root file system
[08:44] <mabus> pasing?
[08:44] <glick> mabus, umm wireshark is ethereal just a different name
[08:44] <mabus> glick: I realise that
[08:44] <mabus> what's the problem
[08:44] <mabus> I'm just saying if you can't apt-get ethereal it's because it's called wireshark now
[08:44] <Renu_> anybody help me to install?
[08:44] <glick> mabus when i compile it says it cant find a file parse_dtc.c
[08:44] <ahill> KennyR, ok i just saw that it did install it, how do i start in with firefox?
[08:45] <booyaka> Renu_ did you try any of the alternate isos?
[08:45] <Renu_> yes
[08:45] <KennyR> ahill: Click tools
[08:45] <KennyR> ahill: Then click ChatZilla
[08:45] <KennyR> this is freenode.net
[08:45] <KennyR> under #ubuntu
[08:45] <ahill> KennyR, oh ok
[08:45] <mabus> glick: why are you compiling from source anyway?
[08:45] <coach_z> can someone help me get ubuntu to recognize the second core on my Core 2 Duo?   kernel version: 2.6.15-27-amd64-generic #1 SMP PREEMPT.....i know i keep asking but i had to RMA 3 motherboards to get this thing working and now it isnt even working
[08:46] <jracicot> can anyone help me with broadcasting a WiFi signal from linux?
[08:46] <cmt^^> hmm
[08:46] <bur[n] er> anyone know if it's possible to take a hard drive image of a windows system to a network location via the ubuntu livecd?  I'd like to backup a system before I install and wipe out windows
[08:46] <ahill> KennyR, so how do i connect to freenode now that it is open at the first screen?
[08:46] <booyaka> Renu_ is it a laptop or desktop?
[08:47] <ahill> KennyR, i just clicked freenode
[08:47] <mabus> bur[n] er: dd
[08:47] <darkanyel> help me, i cant listen nothing :(
[08:47] <Amaranth> coach_z: hrm, it should be working
[08:47] <ajax_> bur[n] er, I use the dd_rescue utility to do that. I don't know if its available from the LiveCD though.
[08:47] <mabus> dd just does a raw dump of your disk
[08:47] <KennyR> ahill: Type /join #ubuntu
[08:47] <KennyR> to join this channel
[08:47] <jracicot> who else here has an ASUS mobo that has ASUS WiFi AP Solo on it?
[08:47] <ahill_> KennyR: nice!
[08:48] <Amaranth> coach_z: There isn't really anything else you can do, I don't think. Do both cores work in windows?
[08:48] <ajax_> ajax_, If its not you can try just "dd" but it will abort if it finds a read error.
[08:48] <KennyR> ahill: I hope I was at least some use to you, im going to bed now.
[08:48] <Amaranth> jracicot: your motherboard has a wireless access point built in?
[08:48] <mabus> coach_z: individual programs have to take advantage of both cores
[08:48] <bur[n] er> i don't think dd goes to a samba drive either :\
[08:48] <ahill_> KennyR: thank you so much but this one doesn't have color text so i know when someone is talking directly to me huh?
[08:48] <coach_z> Amaranth: yes both cores show up in windows
[08:48] <nysosym> Hi there :)
[08:48] <albacker> guys i got a youtube video using unplug extension into mozilla firefox but there's no sound when i play it using totem ? what's the problem ? can someone help me ?
[08:48] <mabus> bur[n] er: no, but you can pipe output
[08:48] <glick> mabus, i wrote a dissector pluggin for a custom protocol
[08:48] <jracicot> Amaranth: yah, it can broadcast a signal in windows fine, but i dunno how to do it in linux
[08:48] <KennyR> ahill: Test
[08:48] <bur[n] er> I have a failing hard drive here too... dd will probably fail :\
[08:48] <nysosym> is anywhere a graphical interface for irssi?
[08:48] <coach_z> mabus: in 'system monitor' it only shows up as one CPU
[08:48] <bur[n] er> I think i have to use a bartPE disk and DriveImageXML
[08:49] <KennyR> ahill: Notice how it lights up a little darker blue
[08:49] <ajax_> bur[n] er, dd_rescue will not fail if it finds an error
[08:49] <mabus> coach_z: then "system monitor" may be one such application that doesn't take advantage
[08:49] <KennyR> ahill: It also shows messages directly to you under the freenode tab
[08:49] <ahill_> KennyR: it works but in xchat when someone directly talks to you it shows up in read for easy to see it
[08:49] <mneptok> coach_z: is this Dapper?
[08:49] <KennyR> ahill: I do beleive thats in preferences..
[08:49] <tojik> What are the equivalents for "dir" and "cd" in Ubuntu. Can anyone give me the list of commands?
[08:49] <mabus> ls and cd
[08:49] <Amaranth> coach_z: run this command in a terminal: grep processor /proc/cpuinfo | wc -l
[08:49] <mabus> well
[08:49] <darkanyel> can anyone told me how to instal the sond board?
[08:49] <mabus> dir and cd...
[08:49] <bur[n] er> !bash
[08:49] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[08:50] <ahill_> KennyR:  oh ok well good night, one more question. is there a quick reply button on keyboard for this so you can repy to you faster?
[08:50] <coach_z> mneptok: yes it is dapper  mabus: the system monitor shows up as 2 cpus with my Pentium D processor
[08:50] <tojik> Thanx to all
[08:50] <KennyR> ahill_: IM not sure what you mean.
[08:50] <mneptok> coach_z: you need to install the -smp kernel for your architecture.
[08:50] <mabus> mneptok: he has it
[08:51] <KennyR> ahill_: Are you talking about auto-completion of names?
[08:51] <coach_z> mneptok: i have tried that, as suggested here earlier today, and it wasnt working
[08:51] <Flannel> coach_z, mneptok, dapper has no -smp specific kernels for intel family
[08:51] <ahill_> for example you type my name and say something to me and then i want to hit 'r' to and i want it to bring up your name real quick cus you were the last one to talk to me for example
[08:51] <darkanyel> 03:03.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder (rev 05) ???
[08:51] <mneptok> coach_z: have you looked carefully at your BIOS settings, and ensured you're using the latest BIOS?
[08:51] <mabus> ahill_: type k, then type tab
[08:52] <Igor_V2> how a kill a process?
[08:52] <KennyR> ahill_: Well, im not entirely sure on the quick-keys.. But the Help menu in the ChatZilla window has loads of information on that sort of thing.
[08:52] <coach_z> Flannel: i have installed the amd64bit version
[08:52] <KennyR> thanks mabus
[08:52] <Amaranth> coach_z: run this command in a terminal: grep processor /proc/cpuinfo | wc -l
[08:52] <ahill_> mabus: k
[08:52] <ahill_> KennyR: well thanks again!
[08:52] <KennyR> ahill_: Well Im finaly off to bed.. for the last time.. and no problem
[08:52] <Amaranth> coach_z: is the output '1' or '2'?
[08:52] <Flannel> coach_z: er.  PentiumD does 64 bit?
[08:52] <Amaranth> Flannel: it's core 2 duo
[08:53] <Igor_V2> hey...how can i kill a proccess????? i see them in ps-aux
[08:53] <squeaks> hey all, i'm trying to compile the usbip project for use on my built kernel, but compiler complains that it can't find 'hcd.h' included by one of the source files, i've located a copy of hcd.h in the kernel source ./drivers/usb/core/hcd.h but it does not declare the undeclared identifier, pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3664/
[08:53] <coach_z> Flannel yea it is that em64 emulation thing
[08:53] <Amaranth> Igor_V2: kill -9 <number of process in ps>
[08:53] <coach_z> anyway, back to my c2d system
[08:54] <ahill> k
[08:54] <jracicot> Amaranth: yah, it can broadcast a signal in windows fine, but i dunno how to do it in linux
[08:55] <ajax_> I followed the instructions on the Restricted Formats page but I still can't get Flash to work in Firefox. If anyone has any tips they could give me I would appreciate it.
[08:55] <Amaranth> jracicot: i saw
[08:55] <Amaranth> jracicot: if it's not completely hardware controlled i don't think you'll have much luck finding a driver
[08:56] <seravitae> hey guys how do i remove a link without destroying the files in it
[08:56] <Flannel> ajax_: you install the -plugin package?
[08:56] <seravitae> i have linux --> /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.17-10-386
[08:56] <seravitae> i need to change that to smp
[08:56] <seravitae> rather, generic
[08:56] <coach_z> Amaranth: grep processor /proc....... doesnt give me anything
[08:56] <tojik> I just installed Ubuntu and I typed only a password for user, how can I find the root password?
[08:56] <DarthLappy> seravitae: If it's a symbolic link you can just rm it
[08:56] <jracicot> Amaranth: nothing in linux will allow a signal to be broadcast instead of recieved?
[08:56] <seravitae> yeah it is. ok
[08:56] <Amaranth> coach_z: nice, you have no processors
[08:56] <ajax_> Flannel, whats the full name of the package?
[08:56] <mneptok> Flannel: Dapper most certainly has a SMP 686 kernel.
[08:56] <seravitae> symbolic links are cyan colored yeah
[08:57] <cmt^^> how do I get proper tv-out on my ubuntu 6.10? The movie window is offset or something, I think the tv-out resolution is too high for the tv.. how do I change that?
[08:57] <ajax_> tojik, Ubuntu has no root account by default. Use sudo instead.
[08:57] <squeaks> tojik, ubuntuguide.org
[08:57] <Amaranth> jracicot: see if setting it up as an ad-hoc network does what you want
[08:57] <vasyl> can someone help me with ATI driver? I installed the driver following the guide on cchtml.com fglrxinfo saysOpenGL renderer Radeon but when I run fgl_glxgears I only see the white cube I dont see the gears on each side of the cube, what may cause that?
[08:58] <Amaranth> jracicot: does it at least show up as a wireless device in iwconfig?
[08:58] <jracicot> Amaranth: will that allow a laptop with windows to connect to the signal? i dont know much about ad-hoc environments
[08:58] <tojik> ajax_ I am trying to install and using sudo but it says that commant not found
[08:58] <jracicot> Amaranth: yes
[08:58] <bur[n] er> vasyl: use the guide on teh wiki
[08:58] <Amaranth> jracicot: yes it will
[08:58] <bur[n] er> ubotu: tell vasyl about ati
[08:58] <jracicot> Amaranth: ok, how can i set it up that way?
[08:58] <Amaranth> the windows machine will join the ad-hoc network too
[08:58] <bur[n] er> !ati | vasyl
[08:58] <ubotu> vasyl: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:58] <Amaranth> jracicot: i only know how to do it from network-manager :)
[08:58] <jracicot> Amaranth: system/admin/network manager
[08:58] <Amaranth> no
[08:59] <Amaranth> jracicot: sudo apt-get installl network-manager-gnome
[08:59] <jracicot> Amaranth: network tools***
[08:59] <ajax_> tojik, you need to type "sudo <command>"...then type your normal password to get it working.
[08:59] <bur[n] er> is it easy to set network-manager to use a static ip?
[08:59] <tojik> ajax_ thanx
[08:59] <miniman> How can I change the doc root for apache2?
[08:59] <Amaranth> bur[n] er: what you do is setup the static ip in network admin and then network-manager ignores that device
[09:00] <bur[n] er> miniman: by editing /etc/apache2/conf/apache2.conf or something like that... maybe httpd.conf
[09:00] <ajax_> tojik, no prob
[09:00] <miniman> Yeah I checked, not there. I'm asking in #apache right now :)
[09:00] <jracicot> Amaranth: ok, i have that installed
[09:00] <bur[n] er> Amaranth: that's how I have it set now, but network manager shows disconnected then :\  and liferea starts up offline
[09:00] <mabus> miniman: not a very friendly channel, good luck
[09:01] <kodeslawww> wht up
[09:01] <mabus> miniman: but the document root is definately in either httpd.conf or apache2.conf
[09:01] <vasyl> bur[n] er: well the guide is pretty much the same that the one that I followed with the difference is that my guide installs the latest and not the one in ubuntu repository
[09:01] <miniman> They jsut told me to add DocumentRoot dirhere
[09:01] <bur[n] er> miniman: /etc/apache2/apache2.conf and look for ServerRoot
[09:01] <coach_z> Amaranth: it is actually giving me "1      3     14 -
[09:01] <coach_z> wc: l: no such file or directory
[09:02] <coach_z>  1      3      14 total
[09:02] <bur[n] er> vasyl: aww... the repos are easier ;)
[09:02] <miniman> serverroot is for the log files, bur[n] er
[09:02] <bur[n] er> miniman: DocumentRoot then?
[09:02] <miniman> yeah
[09:02] <bur[n] er> miniman: i don't think ServerRoot is for log files, that's where my html/php sit
[09:02] <miniman> maybe
[09:03] <mabus> but point is, it's not the document root which is what he's looking for
[09:03] <booyaka> --help
[09:03] <po0f> Who's looking for what?
[09:04] <bur[n] er> miniman: just try chaing the serverRoot in the apche2.conf... works here :)
[09:04] <squeaks> if i download the 2.6.19.2 kernel patch, what source can i apply it to? how can i find out how to use the patch?
[09:04] <booyaka> kodeslawww you on?
[09:04] <miniman> bur[n] er, http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/core.html#documentroot
[09:04] <mabus> I also neither see a documentroot variable in apache2.conf or httpdconf
[09:05] <mabus> not sure which one you're supposed to put it in
[09:05] <Flannel> miniman, bur[n] er, you want to change it in sites-available, that's the site-specific documentation
[09:05] <Flannel> miniman: either default, or 000-default, depending on what version of ubuntu
[09:05] <miniman> Flannel, you are correct. thanks!
[09:07] <wireles> ok peeps.. i need some help .. getting my wireless connection up !
[09:07] <wireles> here is some back ground info
[09:07] <wireles> i am under network setting .. and i do see a wireless connection
[09:08] <wireles> i have set the properties with the right essid, and network password
[09:08] <wireles> it is set for automatic DHCP
[09:09] <jracicot> Amaranth: are you still there?
[09:09] <ubuntu__> hi
[09:09] <TheSkorm> hi
[09:09] <ubuntu__> im having a problem with grub error 15 can any1 help
[09:09] <jracicot> can anyone help me with setting up a ad-hoc signal?
[09:10] <TheSkorm> wtf is any1?
[09:10] <kodeslawww> ex
[09:10] <booyaka> what up kodeslawww
[09:10] <kodeslawww> exit
[09:10] <TheSkorm> s /quit
[09:10] <kodeslawww> waddup
[09:10] <kodeslawww> haha
[09:10] <tanubis> Excellent
[09:10] <booyaka> hey TheSkorm kodeslawww doesn't like irssi
[09:10] <booyaka> he called it "garbage"
[09:10] <TheSkorm> lol
[09:11] <TheSkorm> I can it awsome winnage
[09:11] <booyaka> how do you send pms?
[09:11] <mabus> ubuntu__: make sure the kernel file specified in the boot menu actually exists
[09:11] <TheSkorm> just gotta learn
[09:11] <TheSkorm> its like vim
[09:11] <nicholaspaul> Quick question: Does the Original Airport card work with Edgy?
[09:11] <TheSkorm>  /q person name
[09:11] <booyaka> oh
[09:11] <TheSkorm> change windows using alt + number
[09:11] <booyaka> so /msg doesn't work then
[09:11] <ubuntu__> mabus how do i do that
[09:11] <mabus> ubuntu__: look
[09:11] <TheSkorm> http://f0rked.com/articles/irssi
[09:11] <tanubis> anyone know why a MBR would suddenly decide to stop working?
[09:11] <TheSkorm> nice tutorial
[09:12] <TheSkorm> booyaka /msg works
[09:12] <ubuntu__> mabus in which menu
[09:12] <TheSkorm> god damn my pi is taking forever to cook
[09:12] <TheSkorm> pie
[09:13] <brainly-green> I'm trying to use VNC and it seems to be all set up except whenever I connect, I get a blank screen
[09:13] <brainly-green> there's no login screne
[09:13] <ubuntu__> im using ubuntu live cd as my ubuntu dont work
[09:13] <slicslak> i have a friend who torched his installation.  if he sticks in the install disk, can he just reinstall the system software and leave /home alone?
[09:13] <brainly-green> I added "exec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc" to my ~/.etc/xstartup file but that didn't change anything
[09:13] <ortiz> skorm how do u do the privaste msg on the mainscreen like tht
[09:13] <slicslak> default install
[09:13] <booyaka> when I use /q it takes me to another screen how do I get back?
[09:14] <TheSkorm>  /msg username person
[09:14] <booyaka> ortiz you missed it
[09:14] <TheSkorm> and it'll automagically create a new window
[09:14] <TheSkorm> in which you alt + number to
[09:14] <ortiz> but to make it show on the screen tho
[09:14] <booyaka> 
[09:14] <ortiz> missed wht?
[09:14] <TheSkorm> 
[09:14] <booyaka> ortiz TheSkorm was breakin it down for us
[09:14] <nicholaspaul> can anyone help me shop for a wifi card? I'm wondering if I should get the original Airport card for a powerbook, or go for a Netgear one that I KNOW works with Ubuntu.. any ideas?
[09:14] <TheSkorm> http://f0rked.com/articles/irssi
[09:15] <booyaka> wait I'm running irssi in xterm
[09:15] <TheSkorm> its a nice torrial
[09:15] <TheSkorm> should explain alot, and on the irssi homepage
[09:15] <po0f> nicholaspaul: If you know a card works, why don't you get it?
[09:15] <TheSkorm> its like vim, you have to practice before you like it
[09:15] <TheSkorm> anyway, ima gonna go check that my pie isnt burning
[09:15] <TheSkorm> nope
[09:15] <nicholaspaul> po0f: cos the Airport is better cosmetically.
[09:15] <booyaka> save me a slice TheSkorm
[09:15] <wireles> can someone help me with my wireless
[09:15] <po0f> nicholaspaul: Funny reason to buy a card.  ;P
[09:15] <ortiz> get a wire
[09:16] <gore> hey guys
[09:16] <gore> quick question
[09:16] <booyaka> harhar
[09:16] <booyaka> what up gore shoot
[09:16] <wireles> what the point of a laptop genius
[09:16] <gore> I reinstalled windows on a differect harddrive
[09:16] <nicholaspaul> po0f: not really, since i dont want a card poking out if i dont have to, and i can save the PCMCIA slot for something else
[09:16] <TheSkorm> another 5 minutes or so and it should be right
[09:16] <gore> now my bootrecord for ubuntu is gone
[09:16] <gore> how to I reinstall grub and get to linux
[09:16] <booyaka> gore see what microsoft does for you
[09:16] <gore> haha
[09:16] <holyduck_> !boot
[09:16] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[09:16] <holyduck_> i think
[09:16] <holyduck_> naw
[09:17] <holyduck_> sorry
[09:17] <gore> !windows
[09:17] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[09:17] <gore> =P
[09:17] <nicholaspaul> Here's another avenue... if i know the airport extreme is supported, can i assume (!) that the reg. airport is too>?
[09:17] <bef> best way for me to run/use bit torrent on my ubuntu?
[09:17] <TheSkorm> !!
[09:17] <booyaka> with mepis you used to be able to reinstall grub with the livecd
[09:17] <po0f> nicholaspaul: You can assume, but you might be wrong.  Do you already own the card in question?
[09:18] <TheSkorm> !thank you
[09:18] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[09:18] <nicholaspaul> po0f: no. i'm trying to make a purchasing decision.
[09:18] <TheSkorm> !but you are a sexy bot.
[09:18] <booyaka> how's the pie TheSkorm?
[09:18] <TheSkorm> 5 moar minutes and it might be ready
[09:18] <booyaka> my man ortiz is new to linux & irc and he's strugglin so be nice
[09:18] <TheSkorm> im just guessing because it didnt have packaging, just left in my freezor
[09:19] <TheSkorm> ok
[09:19] <booyaka> he can't burn cds & several video formats are refusing to play
[09:19] <po0f> nicholaspaul: Can you return it and get your money back if it doesn't work?
[09:19] <TheSkorm> oh dear...
[09:19] <gore> video is a huge pain in the ass with ubuntu sometimes
[09:19] <booyaka> not if you follow the restricted formats guide gore
[09:19] <TheSkorm> did you get him to download the  codecs
[09:20] <gore> no I know
[09:20] <gore> its fairly lame that patents and such keep ubuntu from packaging it
[09:20] <booyaka> TheSkorm I sent him a link to the guide
[09:20] <nicholaspaul> po0f:  i doubt it.
[09:20] <TheSkorm> ubuntuguide rocks
[09:20] <booyaka> but he wants me to be 24/7 hands on tech support
[09:21] <booyaka> yeah I gave him the url
[09:21] <po0f> nicholaspaul: I'd go with what you know works then.
[09:21] <booyaka> ubuntuguide.org and google.com is all you need
[09:21] <gore> anyone feel like helping with that grub question
[09:21] <gore> I do believe its outside the realm of ubuntuguide
[09:21] <TheSkorm> booyaka - 9$ aud and hour
[09:21] <gore> =] 
[09:21] <TheSkorm> start a buiesness
[09:21] <TheSkorm> booyaka I.T.
[09:21] <booyaka> hey gore http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html
[09:21] <TheSkorm> perfect name for it
[09:22] <booyaka> hmm I don't know about that TheSkorm... I'd feel bad charging $9 an hour telling people to go to google.com
[09:22] <TheSkorm> i really wish that the ubuntu disc had an option "My mbr is messed up plox fix"
[09:22] <seravitae> TheSkorm: fdisk tool should have mbr tools
[09:23] <seravitae> microsoft's fdisk /mbr recreates the mbr
[09:23] <seravitae> im sure the fdisk equivilant has it
[09:23] <TheSkorm> but without grub on it...
[09:23] <TheSkorm> i've seen other distros that have that type of option
[09:23] <TheSkorm> its very handy
[09:23] <gore> yeah
[09:24] <gore> would be great righ tnow
[09:24] <seravitae> danmit
[09:24] <TheSkorm> anyway, back to my pie, pretty sure it'll be ready
[09:24] <booyaka> gore did you get my link? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html
[09:24] <seravitae> the ubuntuhowto guide for compiling kernels doesn't work. just followed it to the n'th degree.
[09:24] <gore> yeah
[09:24] <gore> I"m about to try it out
[09:24] <gore> brb possibly in linux
[09:25] <gore> I want to test out parralels
[09:25] <ubuntu__> can anyone help me with grub error 15?
[09:27] <poningru> ubuntu__: whatsup?
[09:27] <poningru> do you still have the ubuntu cd?
[09:28] <booyaka> TheSkorm alt-1 isn't working for scrolling windows
[09:28] <RamiKassab> hey guys does anyone know how to get a Diamond S540 (Savage) to run at a resolution of 1440 x 900?
[09:29] <RamiKassab> The card has 32M of memory
[09:30] <jracicot> can anyone help me set up an ad-hoc network broadcast?
[09:30] <ubuntu__> yes but it doesnt work
[09:30] <jracicot> ubuntu_: you know how to set it up?
[09:30] <renu> 'is the system clock set on UTC?' what is this?
[09:31] <po0f> renu: Is the clock in the BIOS set to local time?
[09:32] <renu> ok
[09:32] <renu> it matters if is not?
[09:32] <DreamThief> yes
[09:32] <DreamThief> ^^
[09:32] <ubuntu__> yes but it doesnt work it doesnt want to install grub
[09:33] <ubuntu__> im missing grub im running my computer on ubuntu live
[09:33] <DreamThief> if the clock is set at utc (or GMT), then your local time is computed from the utc-time & your timezone
[09:34] <DreamThief> if its set at your local time, the system time is directly derived from your hardware clock ^^
[09:36] <Flannel> renu: if you are dualbooting, you'll want to make sure linux knows your hardware clock is localtime.  Since windows requires it (and will re-set it to local time)
[09:36] <brainly-green> I'm trying to get my vnc to work
[09:36] <brainly-green> but it gives me a gray screen when Ic onnect, it doesn't start a session with a login window
[09:37] <brainly-green> in my vnc log it says "gnome-session: you're already running a session manager"
[09:37] <brainly-green> and I am indeed already running a gnome session manager but I want to start a new one on a different display
[09:37] <brainly-green> how do I do that?
[09:37] <dal> my_ I just do bong rips
[09:38] <yomm> morning fellow buntus :)
[09:39] <TheSkorm> yum, that pie was nice
[09:39] <dal> hey TheSkorm I like your momma's pie
[09:40] <Flannel> guys, take the offtopic discussions elsewhere.
[09:40] <TheSkorm> oh and if your keyboard shortcuts on irssi use "/win 1"booyaka
[09:40] <dal> TheSkorm the alt/win key wasn't working for me so I had to use Esc
[09:41] <TheSkorm> ah k
[09:42] <brainly-green> argh why wont this work
[09:42] <brainly-green> why do i just get a gray screen
[09:42] <brainly-green> why does it say "gnome-session: you're already running a session manager" when I want to start ANOTHER one, I don't care if I already have one
[09:43] <brainly-green> I just want to start a new window manager, I don't care if it's gnome or what
[09:43] <brainly-green> but I think gnome is the only manager I got
[09:44] <ardchoille42> brainly-green, gnome is a desktop environment, the Metacity window manager is the default wm i gnome
[09:45] <mabus> irrelevant to his question, he is confused
[09:46] <mabus> brainly-green: what are you trying to do... get a working X environment basically?
[09:46] <mabus> why are you trying to restart gnome-session
[09:46] <ardchoille42> brainly-green, I think what you want is to startx on another tty, and then start gnome in that instance of xorg.
[09:47] <n2diy>   I just installed kppp on my test box, and when I try to run it, I'm getting an error message asking me to check if DCOP is running?
[09:48] <n2diy> ! hi
[09:48] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:48] <n2diy> ty
[09:49] <sirgrim> feel'n feisty
[09:50] <RamiKassab> hey guys does anyone know how to get a Diamond S540 (Savage) to run at a resolution of 1440 x 900?
[09:50] <RamiKassab> The card has 32M of memory
[09:51] <RamiKassab> and should be able to run at that resolution
[09:51] <RamiKassab> I'm using the savage xorg driver
[09:51] <siimo> RamiKassab: hmm are you sure that driver can do this res?
[09:51] <n2diy> ! savage
[09:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about savage - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:52] <RamiKassab> siimo: not sure, I've been trying to look that up on google but not having much success
[09:52] <n2diy> ! Diamond S540
[09:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Diamond S540 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:52] <siimo> RamiKassab: how about using the generic driver instead? vesa or something
[09:53] <n2diy>   I just installed kppp on my test box, and when I try to run it, I'm getting an error message asking me to check if DCOP is running?
[09:53] <brainly-green> ah jees just when Ig ave up on this room two people answered
[09:53] <brainly-green> sorry I was away, what I'm grying to do is start a desktop environment with a login screen so that I can log in to SVC
[09:54] <brainly-green> right now I can connect to my SVC server and it will give me just a blank gray screen and an X shaped pointer
[09:54] <RamiKassab> siimo: haven't tried that
[09:55] <brainly-green> I need to start a desktop environment and a window manager I guess
[09:55] <RamiKassab> siimo: I'm running kubuntu and just installed it on the machine in question and it just downloaded and installed a bunch of package upgrades, including video drivers so I'm going to reboot it and see if it helps
[09:55] <brainly-green> this stuff runs as a script in my ~/.svc/xstartup file
[09:56] <ademan> I followed the restricted-modules instructions to install the ATI drivers, yet I'm still not getting 3d acceleration, it tells me that my OpenGL renderer is still mesa3d.  Anyone have any clue what's going on?  Oh, and it says my glxvendor is SGI
[09:57] <mojo_> ademan, fglrxinfo says mesa still?
[09:57] <ademan> yep, as does glxinfo
[09:58] <ademan> my xorg.conf's driver section is set to fglrx
[09:58] <mojo_> what about lsmod... does it show both agp drivers... one is the specific part for your mobo
[09:59] <mojo_> um, i think i should ask if you have an agp card tho before assuming :)
[09:59] <ademan> mojo_: probably, i haven't used this computer in forever though, so don't quote me on it
[10:00] <mojo_> ademan: well, there is one other part... you need the fglrx module loaded in the kernel too... is it in lsmod's output as well?
[10:00] <ademan> mojo_: yes
[10:00] <ademan> and lsmod | grep -i agp   reveals intel_agp and agpgart
[10:00] <mojo_> pasete your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file anywhere?  grep it for EE and WW (errors and warnings)
[10:01] <mojo_> ademan: and lmod |grep -i fglrx shows fglrx?
[10:01] <ademan> yes its in there
[10:01] <mojo_> ^lsmod
[10:01] <ademan> hrm just fyi the device manager says info.bus is pci
[10:01] <mojo_> okay what WW/EE lines you get in the xorg log?
[10:02] <jracicot> i have network manager installed but i dont know how to access it. can anyone help?
[10:02] <brainly-green> well hooray I just successfully logged in to vnc using the desktop "twm"
[10:03] <n2diy>   I just installed kppp on my test box, and when I try to run it, I'm getting an error message asking me to check if DCOP is running?
[10:03] <ademan> mojo_: sorry, how do you grep a file?
[10:03] <mojo_> grep is a command that takes either std input or a file argument if used alone
[10:04] <mojo_> it is a regular expression filter
[10:04] <benrob> my dapper install from live cd hangs at "select a disk"... the live system is completely useable but the install just waits rying to detect hard disks. I have a new HP xw9400 with hardware raid1 installed. Any ideas?
[10:04] <ademan> ah, so i can just pass it as an arg, for future reference though, is there any way to dump a files contents to stdout?
[10:04] <brainly-green> wow now I am getting KDE and downloading 100+ MB to do so, for the sole purpose of starting another desktop
[10:04] <brainly-green> when I'd probably prefer gnome
[10:04] <mojo_> so grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:05] <mojo_> ademan: don't use the -i option because you'll get every word with two e's... you only want the ones with two CAPITAL EE's
[10:05] <mojo_> grep <options> <regex> <filename>
[10:06] <brainly-green> archoille42 said, "brainly-green, I think what you want is to startx on another tty, and then start gnome in that instance of xorg."
[10:06] <mojo_> or command | grep <options> <regex>
[10:06] <ademan> mojo_: well i'm rather suprised, "No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found"    on my box with nvidia, Xorg crashes less than gracefully
[10:06] <mojo_> ademan: that is not really a problem
[10:06] <brainly-green> I don't understand what he meant by that
[10:07] <mojo_> ademan: i get that too.. you use dual head?
[10:07] <brainly-green> ardchoille42 I mean sorry, not archoille
[10:07] <ademan> mojo_: actually no
[10:07] <ademan> and it's just a warning, interestingly enough
[10:08] <mojo_> ademan: yeah, it's not fatal.  i am not 100% why you get that... (i get that too)
[10:08] <benrob> my dapper install from live cd hangs at "select a disk"... the live system is completely useable but the install just waits rying to detect hard disks. I have a new HP xw9400 with hardware raid1 installed. Any ideas?
[10:08] <n2diy> benrob: how much ram do you have?
[10:09] <mojo_> ademan: so what do the EE's tell you?
[10:09] <ademan> Xorg.conf doesn't refer to PCI:1:0:1 at all, and i'm not entirely sure what the correct BusID is for my card
[10:09] <benrob> n2diy: 8GB
[10:09] <mojo_> PCI:1:0:0
[10:09] <mojo_> more than likely
[10:09] <ademan> mojo_: yeah thats what my Xorg.conf thinks it is
[10:10] <mojo_> i think lspci will list that junk out for you...
[10:10] <n2diy> benrob: uhmmm, that _should_ be ok, it i bigger than my HD. ;)
[10:10] <ademan> anyways, found the problem, "incompatible kernel module detected"
[10:10] <benrob> n2diy: ;-)
[10:10] <ademan> i should be able to blacklist "ati" in the linux-restricted-modules file shouldnt i?
[10:10] <ardchoille42> brainly-green, In order to run gnome, you have to run xorg first, then run gnome on top of that. So, if you want to start gnome on another display, you have to start xorg on that display and then start a gnome session on top of xorg.
[10:11] <mojo_> ademan: yeah, do $lspci |grep ATI
[10:11] <n2diy> benrob: laptop, or desktop install?
[10:11] <mojo_> ademan: you will see that it has two pci interfaces, one is secondary, but dual-head does not actually need to interface that way it seems
[10:12] <ademan> mojo_: 01:00:0      AND 01:00.1  interestingly enough
[10:12] <benrob> n2diy: desktop, a nice workstation actually.
[10:12] <ademan> yeah
[10:12] <mojo_> ademan: yeah... normal
[10:12] <ademan> well i'm gonna restart x real fast
[10:12] <n2diy> benrob: New, as in not old?
[10:12] <brainly-green> how do I learn  how to do that
[10:12] <mojo_> ademan: so what you find in Xorg.0.log?
[10:12] <brainly-green> do I use startx?
[10:13] <ademan> mojo_: the kernel module mismatch
[10:13] <brainly-green> I just tried startx and it said I am not authorized to run the X server, and I hesitate to use sudo startx because this is going to run as a non-interactive script
[10:13] <brainly-green> Fatal server error:  server is already active for display 0
[10:13] <mojo_> ademan: okay, then... fglrx.ko does not match your kernel
[10:13] <benrob> n2diy: yes as in delivered a couple of hours ago. I had been using the exact same model a little while ago very successfully, just without raid1. Maybe there is some compatability prob with the hardware raid?
[10:14] <ademan> mojo_: ah not the kernel module is incompatible with the xorg driver?
[10:14] <mojo_> ademan: did you install by downloading from ati/amd site?
[10:14] <ademan> yeah, well i generated *.deb files for Ubuntu first though
[10:14] <slacker_nl> lo
[10:14] <mojo_> ademan: if you have the kernel header files installed then it will compile the fglrx.ko module against your actual kernel
[10:15] <ademan> ah, that's probably what's wrong then
[10:15] <benrob> Gnome partition editor from the live cd also cannot see the disks, but Admin -> Disks can.
[10:15] <slacker_nl> how do I do this?
[10:15] <jracicot> anyone know how to set up a ad-hoc network in network manager?
[10:15] <slacker_nl> echo "bla" > /dev/ttyS3 is not working..
[10:15] <mojo_> ademan: the way i understand it, the fglrx.ko module is the open sourced part so it can compile with the kernel updates and work... but that module then talks to their binary blob through their api
[10:15] <ademan> mojo_: i already have the latest linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic package
[10:16] <mojo_> ademan: okay... maybe it is a problem with a symbolic link to the wrong version of the fglrx.ko
[10:16] <ademan> got that through sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` of course
[10:16] <slacker_nl> hello
[10:16] <sirgrim> pray for my feistyness
[10:16] <ademan> geeze, what a pain, i was gettin all excited cause the ATI installer could generate */debs but geeze
[10:17] <slacker_nl> echo "AT" > /dev/ttySx does not work, can someone help me with this?
[10:17] <NoEvidenZ> I'm pretty sure I have a bad sector and my Ubuntu box won't boot. Not even the Live CD for some reason.
[10:17] <rausb0> slacker_nl: what is connected to /dev/ttyS3? a modem?
[10:17] <slacker_nl> rausb0: a UMTS card (so yes a modem)
[10:18] <mojo_> ademan: okay do ls -l /usr/lib |grep fglrx and you will see how many are symbolic links
[10:18] <benrob> anyone else have an idea why raid1 in hardware causes dapper live install to not be able to find the disks?
[10:18] <rausb0> slacker_nl: and you are sure it registers as /dev/ttySx (not /dev/ttyUSBx)?
[10:18] <ademan> mojo_: that's a -R as well right?
[10:18] <NoEvidenZ> When i try to boot from the harddrive, it just sits at the Ubuntu loading screen. When I try to boot the LiveCD, it just scrolls back and forward across the screen. Any ideas?
[10:18] <mojo_> ademan: i am not 100% sure this is the place.. i did a find fglrx.ko to find this dir
[10:18] <po0f> benrob: You're going to have to use either the alternate or server install CDs instead.
[10:19] <ademan> mojo_: well there's one in /usr/lib/modules/kernel version/something
[10:19] <ademan> lemme check exactly where it was
[10:19] <dxdemetriou> can I convert my / partition from ext3 to reiser4? I use Edgy
[10:19] <mojo_> ademan: i am thinking it's a link somewhere, but i am not sure which link where
[10:19] <slacker_nl> rausb0: I'm sure, with minicom it works fine
[10:19] <mojo_> ademan: i am racking my brain...  where did i hear that?  lemme google
[10:20] <ademan> mojo_: found it, /usr/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/volatile
[10:20] <rausb0> slacker_nl: echo works one way, you won't see a reaction from the card
[10:20] <brainly-green> what's the best way to learn more about linux?
[10:20] <benrob> po0f: hmmm whats 'alternate'? Sadly I dont think 'server' came in my awesome 10-cd bundle from Ubuntu.
[10:20] <brainly-green> should I get a book on it?
[10:20] <rausb0> slacker_nl: so use minicom or screen to talk to the card
[10:20] <ademan> mojo_: it's not a link though unfortunately
[10:20] <mojo_> ademan: i am googling bbiaf
[10:20] <rausb0> slacker_nl: what do you want to do with the echo command? send an initstring?
[10:21] <slacker_nl> rausb0: not an option
[10:21] <meal3837> I was reading a bulletin somewhere about notebook users experiencing trouble with dapper halting properly.  I've been experiencing this issue on my desktop with edgy . . . any ideas?
[10:21] <ademan> alright, thanks a lot for your help
[10:21] <benrob> po0f: you mean 6.06 for 64-bit pc cannot handle hardware raid1? I thought hardware raid was pretty invisible to the os anyway.
[10:21] <slacker_nl> rausb0: yes, see this page http://www.xs4all.nl/helpdesk/mobielinternet/umts/linux/index.php (then look for the PIN script)
[10:22] <brainly-green> arrgh I can't deal with vague high level things, I cannot translate "start xorg then start gnome" into actual commands
[10:23] <brainly-green> i know the command to start gnome, namely exec gnome-session
[10:23] <brainly-green> I do not know the command to start xorg, startx does not work
[10:23] <rausb0> slacker_nl: okay, that script just sends the pin regardless if it was set before. some umts card don't like that.
[10:23] <sirgrim> gdm?
[10:23] <ademan> brainly-green: actually i'd do "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start"
[10:23] <slacker_nl> rausb0: I have the same UMTS card ;)
[10:23] <brainly-green> ademan what would that do
[10:24] <ademan> start gnome from the beggining (the gnome login screen)
[10:24] <rausb0> slacker_nl: at+cpin? will ask the card if the pin was already given
[10:24] <brainly-green> ok I will try that
[10:24] <ademan> as long as Xorg isn't disabled it should automatically start Xorg as well
[10:24] <brainly-green> that's the only command?  do I need to do something with startx before?
[10:24] <brainly-green> ok
[10:24] <brainly-green> uh also I'm not sure I can use sudo because this is for vnc
[10:24] <rausb0> slacker_nl: but anyway, you won't see the card's answer if you use echo to output a string to it
[10:24] <brainly-green> so the guy connecting on vnc wouldn't have a terminal to answer the password prompt
[10:24] <brainly-green> but I'll try
[10:24] <slacker_nl> rausb0: hold on.. something is working..
[10:25] <meal3837> is anyone here from the northern Colorado area?
[10:25] <mojo_> ademan: 3) check that you have your kernel headers in /usr/src/linux-headers-<version> and that /usr/src/linux is a symbolic link to that directory. This is needed to compile the fglrx kernel module.
[10:25] <mojo_> 3.1)If you don't have the headers get them by finding the package in synaptic called "linux-headers-(the name you got from uname -r)". Then "ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers<version> /usr/src/linux".
[10:25] <sirgrim> I'm in Denver meal
[10:25] <meal3837> sweet
[10:25] <meal3837> I'm in greeley
[10:25] <sirgrim> nice
[10:25] <pavs_sleep> is it possible to log in a?s root in ubuntu
[10:25] <sirgrim> dang global freezing
[10:25] <meal3837> are you in a LUG?
[10:25] <meal3837> no kidding
[10:25] <sirgrim> naw
[10:25] <mojo_> ademan: sorry about the paste... i was reading about it but this is pre-compile linking to be done
[10:26] <ademan> mojo_: /usr/share/linux should be a link to the dir?
[10:26] <ademan> that doesn't sound right, but i can try it
[10:26] <brainly-green> now I am getting an error I wasn't getting before
[10:26] <brainly-green> xauth:  error in locking authority file /home/bparkis/.Xauthority
[10:27] <brainly-green> that's when I try to run vncserver
[10:27] <mojo_> ademan: disregard that stuff i pasted... i didn't mean to send it
[10:27] <renu> it is safe to install ubuntu on a pc when is conected to the ethernet?
[10:27] <ademan> mojo_: i don't know exactly what it means but i have both a linux-headers-2.6.17-10 and a linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic
[10:27] <adamonline45> Is there anybody here who has successfully configured and installed thttpd from binary, for Ubuntu? I think my main problem is the ./config step... Any advice on which parameters to use?
[10:27] <variant> renu: yes..
[10:27] <brainly-green> this happened after I did chmod +x /home/bparkis/.Xauthority
[10:28] <mojo_> ademan: i was reading and thought i was on to something... but i clicked away
[10:28] <renu> because i can not install anytype of ubuntu
[10:28] <variant> brainly-green: that file should not be executable
[10:28] <ademan> renu: what happens when you try?
[10:28] <pavs_sleep> is it possible to log in a?s root in ubuntu
[10:28] <variant> pavs_sleep: sudo -i
[10:28] <renu> after installing said failed
[10:28] <variant> pavs_sleep: enter your suer password and you will be root
[10:28] <pavs_sleep> not in terminal
[10:28] <brainly-green> oh right i don't know why I did +x, I meant to have done +w
[10:28] <renu> a bug......
[10:28] <pavs_sleep> i gnome
[10:28] <ademan> renu: it didn't give any sort of descriptive error message?
[10:29] <meal3837> does anyone know if it's possible to run xgl/compiz on a 500MHz Pentium 3/Radeon 7000/ 512MB ram?
[10:29] <ademan> brainly-green: Xauthority is supposed to be owned and only read/write accessed by root
[10:29] <brainly-green> it was in response to the error "xauth:  /home/bparkis/.Xauthority not writable, changes will be ignored"
[10:29] <ademan> brainly-green: well i thought
[10:29] <meal3837> haha
[10:29] <variant> pavs_sleep: you can but is highly ill advised.. gnome is designed to work as a user. the functionality cannot be garuanteed as root and it is exceptionally insecure
[10:29] <brainly-green> I did chmod -x anyway and still getting that error
[10:29] <ademan> meal3837: dunno, iirc ATI's drivers don't support radeon7000, otherwise i don't think it would be a problem
[10:30] <brainly-green> I'm getting the "not writable" error again
 regardless of the security issues, I just want to know how its done.
[10:30] <brainly-green> should I make it writable or would that be a bad idea?
[10:30] <sirgrim> I want a t-shirt that says "I use commands from root"
[10:30] <mah> !java
[10:30] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[10:30] <variant> meal3837: yes it is, it works flawlessly with my radeon 7000 on board graphics and the Free software drivers
[10:30] <meal3837> fglrx sure didn't work for this card
[10:30] <mojo_> ademan: what is /usr/src/linux linked to?
[10:30] <variant> meal3837: you will use aiglx
[10:30] <variant> meal3837: not xgl
[10:31] <variant> meal3837: are you on edgy?
[10:31] <meal3837> yeah
[10:31] <variant> meal3837: just install beryl then, you allready have aiglx
[10:31] <brainly-green> ok now I made it writable but it says now "error in locking authority file /home/bparkis/.Xauthority"
[10:31] <NoEvidenZ> "Buffer I/O error on device HDA." Anyone?
[10:31] <variant> meal3837: install beryl and run beryl-manager.. everything will become 3d
[10:31] <ademan> variant: i thought ATI couldn't do AIGLX right now
[10:31] <meal3837> just apt-get install beryl?
[10:31] <variant> ademan: only with the free software drivers.. not the proprietry ones
[10:31] <ademan> mojo_: was nothing, but i linked it to linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic
[10:32] <mojo_> ademan: have you tried to recompile the ati drivers since?
 can you tell me how to log in as root in gnome?
[10:32] <variant> pavs_sleep: no, it is not a good idea and i am not about to give you instructions on how to do something idiotic
[10:32] <mojo_> ademan: which version are you loading?  -generic or not?
[10:33] <variant> pavs_sleep: why do you want to log in as root anyway? perhaps we can fix your problemthe proper way
[10:33] <ademan> mojo_: i just recompiled since linking it to -generic
[10:33] <brainly-green> it worked for some reason except since I had sudo in my script, it required me to enter a password, but since it was in a script that didn't work properly
[10:33] <ademan> mojo_: i'm about to install it now
[10:33] <brainly-green> so now I've done sudo su and I'm going to try it again--is that the only way?
[10:33] <mojo_> look at your /boot/grub/menu.lst or whatever and in /boot to see which one you are using
[10:33] <brainly-green> I shouldn't have to run as root, should I?
[10:33] <mojo_> mojo_: okay good luck
[10:34] <adamonline45> brainly-green: Have you tried: "sudo ./script-name"
[10:34] <meal3837> if I were to install beryl, what package would I be looking for?
[10:34] <brainly-green> oh
[10:34] <brainly-green> ok
[10:34] <frogzoo> !beryl
[10:34] <brainly-green> ah dang it how do I change back out of root
[10:34] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[10:34] <adamonline45> brainly-green: exit
[10:35] <dusty__> Hey guys I am trying to setup a DHCP server on my ubuntu firewall, I keep getting the following problem when I try to run the init script to start it: http://rafb.net/p/QO9IYQ46.html  can anyone shed any light on what i'm doing wrong here please?
[10:35] <ademan> mojo_: it just hit me, it's not generating any sort of  kernel module package that i can see, i get xorg-driver-fglrx and xorg-driver-fglrx-dev and fglrx-kernel-source and fglrx control and fglrx sources, yet no kernel object
[10:35] <yomm> how do I get the pretty colors with links2 ?? my framebuffer is working !
[10:35] <mojo_> you mean you don't have one at all?
[10:35] <sirgrim> yomm: try elinks
[10:35] <pavs_sleep> its not a problem. I wanted to know how its done. most distros allow you to log in as root easily, whether I use it or not is my personal preferrance. When I am logged in as a user everytime I am trying to do root job I just type in the password. it doesnt bother me. I just want how to log in as root.
[10:35] <ademan> mojo_: well the installer didn't generate a package for one (taht i can see)
[10:35] <adamonline45> !elinks | personal enrichment
[10:35] <ubotu> elinks: advanced text-mode WWW browser. In component main, is optional. Version 0.11.1-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 593 kB, installed size 3316 kB
[10:35] <frogzoo> !root | pavs_sleep
[10:35] <ubotu> pavs_sleep: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:35] <ademan> actually gimme a second, i'm gonna use lintian
[10:36] <yomm> sirgrim: ok i'll check it , but isn't it possible to get links2 to do that as well ?
[10:36] <pavs_sleep> I am not talking about terminal, I am talking DE like GNOME
[10:36] <brainly-green> it keeps giving me xauth:  error in locking authority file /home/bparkis/.Xauthority -- it worked once for some reason, I have no idea why
[10:36] <brainly-green> I am trying to run the script "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start"
[10:36] <frogzoo> pavs_sleep: don't run your DE as root - just don't
[10:36] <ademan> brainly-green: try restarting your computer for the heck of it
[10:36] <brainly-green> ah I shold leave the sudo out of that actually
[10:36] <sirgrim> yomm: not sure, I think so
[10:37] <brainly-green> you're pulling my leg ademan?
[10:37] <adamonline45> brainly-green: Pretty much anything in init.d you should have to sudo to execute
[10:37] <dusty__> Anyone?
[10:37] <pavs_sleep> you guys dont understand my point. I am not a 2 year old. i know the security issues.
[10:37] <brainly-green> I am sudoing it
[10:37] <renu> i have a dapper live cd and if i want to install i choose from f4(vga)but is not working and i can not hit the forward buton
[10:37] <brainly-green> sudo vncserver
[10:37] <renu> what should i do?
[10:37] <brainly-green> whoa
[10:37] <dusty__> :(
[10:37] <pavs_sleep> split
[10:38] <dusty__> Anyone got any ideas on my problem?
[10:38] <ademan> brainly-green: well my thought is .Xauthority should be erased and recreated on a restart, iirc that is
[10:38] <holyduck_> wtf just happened
[10:38] <renu> i have a dapper live cd and if i want to install i choose from f4(vga)but is not working and i can not hit the forward buton,what should i do?
[10:38] <frogzoo> pavs_sleep: this is a support channel, so people won't tell you how to do things that are not in your best interests to do
[10:38] <mojo_> a split on the irc network dropped a bunch of folk
[10:38] <riotkittie> !netsplit | holyduck_
[10:38] <ubotu> holyduck_: netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[10:38] <brainly-green> ok I'll try it
[10:38] <brainly-green> I don't like rebooting though, I lose all my open windows
[10:38] <yomm> sirgrim: I found it , you can start links2 with a selected device or graphics mode .... thx anyway :)
[10:38] <slacker_nl> rausb0: I managed to get it working
[10:39] <slacker_nl> rausb0: but I'm also resending the pin, and it indeed does not like it..
[10:39] <meal3837> is there a name for that one, too?
[10:39] <yomm> wow lots of joinesr :)
[10:39] <pavs_sleep> whatever, your paranoa is insane.. but atleast thanks for caring and treating me like a 2 yr old. g'night
[10:39] <dusty__> Hey guys I am trying to setup a DHCP server on my ubuntu firewall, I keep getting the following problem when I try to run the init script to start it: http://rafb.net/p/QO9IYQ46.html  can anyone shed any light on what i'm doing wrong here please?
[10:39] <adamonline45> dusty__ : since you have two ethernet cards (right, on a dhcp server?) you need to declare the second subnet... Like, line 44...
[10:40] <dusty__> adamonline45: what do u mean?
[10:40] <brainly-green> on the other hand I finished downloading KDE
[10:40] <dusty__> I don't use the second NIC just eth0?
[10:40] <brainly-green> so I can just use that instead of gnome and spare myself hassle
[10:40] <riotkittie> uh. its  not paranoia.
[10:40] <ademan> qwll i think i'm gonna go to sleep, friggin ATI drivers, good luck brainly-green, i hope my idea works
[10:40] <Sixer> Hi, in /proc/meminfo, is the MemTotal the physical RAM ?
[10:40] <riotkittie> pavs_sleep: why do you want to log in as root in gnome?
[10:40] <brainly-green> ok see you ademan thanks in advance if it does work
[10:41] <adamonline45> dusty__: I'm not sure what should go there, since it's been a while since I attempted mine...  No, no, you have internet on one nic and network on the other?
[10:41] <dusty__> no
[10:41] <pavs_sleep> curious.. I think thats good enouh reason. The same reason I started using linux in the first place.
[10:41] <dusty__> I have a usb adsl modem and one nic for the LAN.
[10:41] <Pooky> can anyone suggest a good time tracking app for gnome? I was going to use gtimer...but...it's so....ugly
[10:41] <mojo_> ademan: you said you now have the correct symbolic link for /usr/src/linux right?
[10:41] <ademan> brainly-green: oh and before i go you might try running startx before sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start, i could have been mistaken about what gdm start does
[10:42] <mojo_> ademan: and you have recompiled?
[10:42] <ademan> mojo_: yeah
[10:42] <adamonline45> dusty__: ahh okay, but you're trying to set up a dhcp server? Just, have one computer on the LAN that serves DHCP addys?
[10:42] <dusty__> Address range 192.168.0.10 to 192.168.0.50, netmask 255.255.255.224 spans multiple subnets!
[10:42] <dusty__>  i get that when i run it manually?
[10:42] <ademan> i think the problem is there just flat out isn't a kernel module being generated here
[10:42] <mojo_> ademan: maybe if you unload the fglrx module and re-load it then it will pick up the correct version
[10:42] <dusty__> adamonline45: yes
[10:42] <meal3837> anyone know any really good hands on guides to linux?
[10:42] <frogzoo> dusty__: you get that because it spans multiple subnets
[10:43] <dusty__> hrm, how do i fix it?
[10:43] <ardchoille42> pavs_sleep, Ubuntu uses sudo with the root account disabled by default.. that is supported configuration. Anyone who tells you how to log into gnome as root user is violating supported configuration and I don't think anyone here is going to teach you how to do that.
[10:43] <frogzoo> dusty__: s/224/192
[10:43] <adamonline45> dusty__: shouldn't the subnet be something more like, 255.255.255.0?
[10:43] <mojo_> ademan: when i do a search i have two actual objects and two symlinks...
[10:43] <ademan> mojo_: where are they?
[10:44] <mojo_> ademan: /lib/modules/fglrx is a link and so is /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod
[10:44] <pavs_sleep> thanks anyways, I figured out how to do it.
[10:44] <adamonline45> meal3837: Just use it...  And do stuff... and look up what you're trying to do...  and it'll happen...
[10:44] <meal3837> my imagination is dry tonight
[10:44] <riotkittie>  i dont see the point <shrug>
[10:44] <meal3837> lol
[10:45] <ademan> mojo_: interesting i don't have anything in /lib/modules other than a 2.6.17-10-generic directory
[10:45] <adamonline45> meal3837: I got some cheesy book for xmas one year, that helped me a little, but I've learned more in an hour of looking stuff up online than I did through a couple hours on the pot reading that book...
[10:45] <[Wiebel] > hey
[10:45] <adamonline45> meal3837: Er, spanned over a couple weeks ;)
[10:45] <meal3837> haha
[10:45] <[Wiebel] > can I down grade edgy to dapper by changing edgy/dapper in sources.list ?
[10:45] <mojo_> ademan: okay my /lib/modules/fglrx file is a link...
[10:45] <pavs_sleep> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-31053.html
[10:45] <mojo_> ademan: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root     24 2007-01-30 11:37 fglrx.ko -> ./fglrx.2.6.17-10-386.ko
[10:45] <frogzoo> !docs | meal3837
[10:45] <ubotu> meal3837: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[10:45] <riotkittie> [Wiebel] : as far as i know... no.
[10:45] <mojo_> ademan:  fglrx.ko -> ./fglrx.2.6.17-10-386.ko
[10:45] <[Wiebel] > hmmm
[10:46] <frogzoo> [Wiebel] : no
[10:46] <[Wiebel] > is there a way to downgrade then?
[10:46] <ademan> mojo_: hrm, and you installed with ATI's installer? did you generate debs? or just install it?
[10:46] <frogzoo> [Wiebel] : reinstall
[10:46] <[Wiebel] > frogzoo: remote
[10:46] <mojo_> ademan: do you have a fglrx.something.ko in /lib/modules/ ?
[10:46] <frogzoo> [Wiebel] : what's wrong with edgy?
[10:46] <mojo_> ademan: i just installed it
[10:46] <adamonline45> meal3837: But really, I know it sounds silly, but there's no linear way to learn linux.  You have to get in over your head, and suddenly the stuff you don't get makes sense, once you try to apply it to even more involved stuff...
[10:47] <[Wiebel] > frogzoo: I have some issues with my graphics cards + DRI
[10:47] <[Wiebel] > sinds edgy
[10:47] <frogzoo> [Wiebel] : on a remote box?
[10:47] <mojo_> meal3837: adamonline45 is right but linux you have peole all around to help guide you, like this IRC channel... it is VERY newbie friendly
[10:47] <ademan> mojo_: nope there's nothing in /lib/modules, except for the 2.6.17-10-generic directory
[10:47] <[Wiebel] > frogzoo: No I am remote now ;)
[10:47] <frogzoo> [Wiebel] : which vid card?
[10:47] <adamonline45> mojo_: I agree, sadly, d00d left =)
[10:47] <[Wiebel] > frogzoo: Don't wanna wait untill I'm home :)
[10:48] <mojo_> adamonline45: ah well
[10:48] <[Wiebel] > 01:01.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. 86C270-294 Savage/IX-MV (rev 13)
[10:48] <ardchoille42> pavs_sleep, Do you know who wrote that article?
[10:48] <[Wiebel] > playing video/divx/dvd's is not going 100% either, rendering is just a little to slow
[10:48] <[Wiebel] > while cpu usage is way < 100%
[10:48] <ardchoille42> pavs_sleep, Did you read the replies to that article?
[10:48] <frogzoo> [Wiebel] : yeh dunno, maybe try a newer driver
[10:49] <[Wiebel] > frogzoo: like not xorg's own driver?
[10:49] <adamonline45> thttpd experience in deb/ubuntu; anyone?
[10:49] <frogzoo> [Wiebel] : like compile a later version if you can find one, or a deb if someone's already done it
[10:49] <mneptok> adamonline45: i run it here.
[10:49] <mojo_> ademan: if i remember i didn't get the debs to work so i did the ati installer script
[10:49] <pavs_sleep> ofcourse, read the seventh reply. it expresses exactly my sentiment
[10:50] <cikas> what should i do to install dapper?
[10:50] <mneptok> adamonline45: but on NetBSD/m68k
[10:50] <mozhuang> hi
[10:50] <zbadone> big problems!, somehow my Ubuntu server is screwed up, cant do an upgrade, something bout /usr/lib/perl/POSIX.pm missing
[10:50] <frogzoo> cikas: d/l & burn the cd & boot from it
[10:50] <cikas> can anybody help me?
[10:50] <mojo_> ademan: ati-driver-installer-8.33.6-x86.x86_64.run is what i ran
[10:50] <ardchoille42> pavs_sleep, You're picking one reply out of the bunch to justify violating common sense?
[10:50] <pavs_sleep> you still didnt read the reply
[10:50] <ademan> mojo_: alright, well i'm compiling the kernel module myself just because i can... hehe
[10:50] <adamonline45> mneptok: Ahh, gotcha... the repositories are way out of date, so I want to compile the binaries to run on ubuntu server 6.06...  I'm just lost, it's my first compile...
[10:51] <zbadone> can I use a server cd to RESCUE the server without over writing my config file?
[10:51] <cikas> frogzoo i d/l&burn and when i want to install the icons from live cd are huge
[10:51] <Toge> hello. how can I see a DVD film with menus? totem plays .vob only
[10:51] <ademan> mojo_: hey where did those two symbolic links point to?
[10:51] <pavs_sleep> Linux is all about knowing and letting others know. Its not about hiding the little black boxes from kids who dont know how to play with them.
[10:51] <pavs_sleep> Logging in as root has several advantages.
[10:51] <mojo_> ademan: you go then
[10:51] <frogzoo> Toge: gxine ?
[10:52] <mneptok> adamonline45: do you have build-essential istalled?
[10:52] <mojo_> ademan: um, let me see
[10:52] <frogzoo> !fixres | cikas
[10:52] <ubotu> cikas: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:52] <mneptok> pavs_sleep: i know of no distinct advantages other than convenience
[10:53] <adamonline45> mneptok: yes, I do.  I got all the dependencies: g++, linux-kernel-headers, libc6-dev, build-essential, gcc...
[10:53] <cikas> hey
[10:53] <zbadone> can I use a Ubuntu server cd to rescue a messed up server, without over writing my config file and other important file?
[10:53] <cikas> i want to install now and i can not see the butons
[10:53] <cikas> i am on  a live cd
[10:54] <mojo_> ademan: in /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/  there are two links...
[10:54] <[Wiebel] > hmmz
[10:54] <mojo_> ademan: 1) fglrx.ko -> 2.6.x/fglrx.ko    and 2) libfglrx_ip.a -> libfglrx_ip.a.GCC4
[10:54] <[Wiebel] >   libxxf86vm-dev: Depends: libxxf86vm1 (= 1:1.0.0-0ubuntu3) but 1:1.0.1-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[10:54] <[Wiebel] > root@insomnia:~# dpkg -l |grep libxxf86vm1
[10:54] <[Wiebel] > ii  libxxf86vm1                            1.0.1-0ubuntu1                       X11 XFree86 video mode extension library
[10:55] <[Wiebel] > I don't get it :)
[10:55] <frogzoo> cikas: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'  - should get the screen usable
[10:55] <ademan> mojo_: alright well *.a files are static libraries so that shouldn't be a problem, that'd be for compilation only
[10:55] <mojo_> ademan: and there is one in /lib/modules/fglrx/fglrx.ko -> ./fglrx.2.6.17-10-386.ko
[10:55] <pavs_sleep> I only reason I wanted to do know this because I didnt know how to do it. There is nothing wrong with knowing how to do it. Whether I use this knowledge sensible is my choice to make. Like windows I shouldnt be told what application I should use to watch movies, view pictures by default. Isnt that the whole point of linux? having choices. learning something new you didnt know?
[10:55] <adamonline45> mneptok: It's just the parameters for running ./configure that I get stuck on.  There's a list of paths to assign to directories, and I know a few of them don't exist on my end...  I just don't know what each option's purpose is, so i'm lost as to where to assign them...
[10:56] <ardchoille42> pavs_sleep, I have been using Ubuntu since Warty, on 11 computers.. I have set up numerous friends' computers and servers with Ubuntu. I still manage several of those. I have, to this day, never needed to log in as root (neither in a gdm session nor terminal).. I only use sudo and I don't see the need to log in as root. But, of course, it's your computer, you can do what you want with it.
[10:56] <mojo_> ademan: that last one is your bby, cuz i am on 2.6.17-10-386 kernel and i WUZ on 2.6.15 when i had done my last install of the ati drivers
[10:56] <mneptok> pavs_sleep: you have the choice to stick a gun in your mouth asd pull the trigger, too. doesn't mean we have to help you learn to load a gun.
[10:56] <mojo_> ademan: bby = your baby
[10:56] <ademan> haha
[10:57] <ardchoille42> mneptok, Good analogy
[10:57] <pavs_sleep> learning to log in as root is not equal to shooting yourself. now you are just stretching it.
[10:57] <frogzoo> pavs_sleep: you'll find what you're looking for on google - but advertising that kind of stuff in a support channel just creates unnecessary work
[10:57] <Polibio> nas
[10:57] <mojo_> ademan: so you got a fglrx.something.ko in /lib/modules now that you did the compile with the proper headers installed?
[10:57] <mneptok> pavs_sleep: logging in as root is disabled, discouraged, and not something you're likely to find help with.
[10:58] <adamonline45> mneptok: Do you have any suggestions about ./configure -parameters, or were you just saying you run thttpd? :D
[10:58] <cikas> frogzoo : debconf:is locked by another process
[10:58] <mneptok> adamonline45: i run it on NetBSD, where i installed it via pkgsrc
[10:58] <ademan> mojo_: naw it all just dumped into the director i compiled in, but i'm moving around fglrx.ko to see where it works
[10:59] <pavs_sleep> OK, I am not asking about it anymore. I already know it. but it feels like there is an unwritten law to eve talk about it?
[10:59] <brainly-green> nothing in my preferences menu works--if I click on one of those items it starts a gray window with no widgets or options, and I have to force close it
[10:59] <mojo_> ademan: you doing your own manual compiles, huh?  fancy you... ;)
[10:59] <frogzoo> cikas: close synaptic
[10:59] <adamonline45> mneptok: Yeah, it was made for netbsd anyway =P  Well, I'm sure someone, somewhere, has documented their setup on ubuntu/deb... thanks anyway :)
[10:59] <ademan> mojo_: haha, only fancy if it works
[10:59] <cikas> i am from a live cd
[11:00] <cikas> i am not in synaptic
[11:00] <mojo_> ademan: well unless you fancy slow framerates, lol
[11:00] <mneptok> pavs_sleep: discussion of enabling features that we deliberately disable on a channel with new users is not a good idea, no.
[11:00] <ardchoille42> pavs_sleep, One of the things is this: You have a root account, if I want to break into your box, the root account is where I'd start. I can sit here all day and brute force my way in. I can't do that if the root account is disabled. And, I can't break into the user accounts because I don't know the usernames.
[11:00] <ademan> mojo_: yeah i guess i better learn to like it:-) cause it didn't work, and i'm rather frustrated tonight, i figure i'll pick it up tomorow, thanks a ton for the help though
[11:01] <brainly-green> you could brute force the usernames
[11:01] <mojo_> Ademan_sleep: I think you may have a lead, yah... good luck and good night
[11:01] <riotkittie> uh
[11:01] <frogzoo> brainly-green: not in this lifetime
[11:01] <ardchoille42> brainly-green, Do you have any idea how many centuries that would take?
[11:01] <riotkittie> brute forcing the user names is a heck of a lot more difficult than brute forcing root
[11:01] <brainly-green> wellw hat if it's a company system for example
[11:01] <brainly-green> where the usernames are all known
[11:02] <brainly-green> I know everyone else's username at my university
[11:02] <adamonline45> Right, you have to guess the username and then the password...
[11:02] <adamonline45> and even then, you'd still not have root access...
[11:02] <brainly-green> but you could sudo
[11:02] <brainly-green> couldn't you
[11:02] <frogzoo> brainly-green: universities will have checks against brute force
[11:02] <ardchoille42> But, if the root account is enabled, it's just that much easier to hack into.
[11:02] <NoEvidenZ> my hdd crapped out
[11:02] <riotkittie> who's to say any of those known accounts have sudo rights
[11:02] <ardchoille42> riotkittie, Good point
[11:03] <fateminasab> I installed x-moto and i can play it with no problem but when i tried to quit the game my computer crashed. What is the problem?(Sorry for my english)
[11:03] <mojo_> pavs_sleep: you see that article (ws on DIGG) where someone with WINE downloaded an exe and ran it, and it was one of those spyware trojans?  it put a icon in his notification area that said his registry needed updating, and it opened a port.
[11:03] <pavs_sleep> I dont think my computer is interesting enough for you or anyone to break into. This is something that sys admins should worry about not newbies. newbes are here (like myself) to learn. and I believe the best way to learn is by knowing how things work in practice. By trial and error. Not by someone telling you not to do it because it MIGHT be bad. Thats something I would like to learn from my experience along the way.
[11:03] <NoEvidenZ> riotkittie: My Ubuntu drive crapped itself. =[
[11:03] <brainly-green> yeah we're not
[11:03] <jatt> hmmm nautilus is really a memory hog. Before I uninstalled it my memory always showed 5MB free memory, and without nautilus I see now:
[11:03] <jatt> Mem:    515880k total,   492212k used,    23668k free,     3776k buffers
[11:03] <brainly-green> you could still cause damage though
[11:03] <adamonline45> yes, you cuold sudo... but there's a difference between you hacking into someone at your universities computer, and the other millions of computer users out there...  You must be from the US to have such an introspective approach regarding people outside your field of vision ;)
[11:03] <jatt> 23MB!
[11:04] <riotkittie> pavs_sleep: trial and error AS ROOT ... and linux newbies ... do not mix
[11:04] <frogzoo> pavs_sleep: so learn to use google to find out what you need
[11:04] <mneptok> pavs_sleep: ever flown a plane? a lot of people will tell you it's a bad idea to point it at the ground. but hell! what do they know?! GO FOR IT!
[11:04] <mojo_> pavs_sleep: Even linux folk may download and run something some day w/o being sure of it's source... granted with linux there are many reputable sources but still.. it is possible.  torjans are a social hack.  non-root is a good measure for a default build that is friendly to linux newbies
[11:04] <adamonline45> If you know someone's name, anyway, you should know them well enough not to try and break into their system...
[11:05] <PORDO> gnash: Date.cpp:374: void gnash::date_getdate(const gnash::fn_call&): Assertion `fn.nargs == 0' failed. <-- ??
[11:05] <brainly-green> there are hundreds of people whose usernames I can get at my university
[11:05] <brainly-green> maybe thousands
[11:05] <brainly-green> all public domain
[11:05] <ardchoille42> brainly-green, I'll bet none of them are in suders
[11:05] <grompf> Hi,I have a problem trying to configure my laptop to use an external mouse.I'm trying to change the speed of the mouse but changes on gnome or kde mouse settings only seem to affect the touchpad.How can i solve this?
[11:05] <pavs_sleep> just because its a bad idea doesnt mean no one should know how it works.
[11:05] <adamonline45> Also, yes, weren't you asking about running root in...  gnome? Nautilus?
[11:06] <pavs_sleep> yes
[11:06] <mojo_> pavs_sleep: oh i agree... linux is about choice.  if you are ready to use a root login that is your choice.
[11:06] <adamonline45> grompf: could maybe a thrid-party driver work?
[11:06] <riotkittie> pavs_sleep: if you insist on knowing how root works, there are many other distros out there with root enabled
[11:06] <mojo_> pavs_sleep: all you have to do is set a password for root, i don't think much else?  i am not 100% sure but there are articles out there for those who want to
[11:07] <riotkittie> or you can find out how to unlock the account and do it yourself but nobody in here is going to tell you how, and you should stop - for lack of a better term, and i am not trying to be rude - whining about it
[11:07] <pavs_sleep> I ahve used 4 other distro, all of them has root enabled by default. Thats why i was curious to find out how its done in ubuntu
[11:07] <jhaig> To switch to root, you can do 'sudo su -'.  Alternatively, set the root password, as mojo_ said.
[11:07] <mojo_> pavs_sleep: or you can sudo -s to change to a root login in a shell
[11:08] <brainly-green> my ubuntu computer is not shutting down
[11:08] <mojo_> pavs_sleep: there is also gksudo that you can use to set up launchers to run programs as root in the GUI... they will prompt for root passwd..
[11:08] <grompf> adamonline45: I don't have a third party driver.What do you mean?I've tried to add the external mouse as a corepointer in Xorg.conf but didn't make any difference
[11:08] <PORDO> brainly-green go to a terminal and type sudo shutdown -h now
[11:08] <brainly-green> it's got a pointer and the desktop image
[11:08] <brainly-green> I have no terminal
[11:08] <adamonline45> sudo passwd root; <enter a password> (do once) ; su <enter password> (forever... and the haxors... too...)
[11:08] <brainly-green> it has a mouse cursor and the wallpaper picture
[11:08] <PORDO> i need a way to record the audio from a flash thing.
[11:09] <brainly-green> It's been like that for 5 mins maybe
[11:09] <PORDO> grash crashes
[11:09] <pavs_sleep> anyways. thanks for all your help. g night. now I really have to go to sleep
[11:09] <riotkittie> brainly-green: alt + ctrl + fkey
[11:09] <mojo_> pavs_sleep: yeah, be well rested when you run commands as root!  peace
[11:09] <Lynoure> PORDO: once or more often? And with what quality? I'd simply do it with a microphone for one-off thing :)
[11:10] <Lynoure> (if the quality does not need to be perfect)
[11:10] <brainly-green> thanks riotkittie
[11:10] <adamonline45> brainly-green: but type exit to exit root, when you're not using it...  And press <ctrl><alt><f7> to return to GUI...  You should know that before you venture into your vcs
[11:10] <AJIEXA> HI ALL!!! PLZ help me. Where I must wright "iptables-restory" - in wich cfg file???  - I want to start my config of iptables every reboot system (OS Ubuntu 6.10)
[11:10] <brainly-green> what's a vcs--version control system?
[11:10] <mojo_> Lynoure: who ever said it wasn't perfect with the problems?  how do you judge happy without a little sad to gauge it by?
[11:10] <adamonline45> brainly-green: er, I mean virtual terminal
[11:11] <Lynoure> AJIEXA: I usually put my iptables script as a pre-up rule into /etc/network/interfaces
[11:11] <Lynoure> mojo_: What???
[11:11] <mojo_> Lynoure: life is a paradox... bitter/sweet
[11:11] <adamonline45> brainly-green: if you were to follow someone's advice on pressing <ctrl><alt><F1-6> to access a virtual terminal...
[11:11] <Lynoure> mojo_: Can you take that to some non-support channel, please
[11:12] <PORDO> Lynoure good quality as possible.
[11:12] <AJIEXA> Lynoure: really ?  - cool :) - I never work with debian\ubuntu before
[11:12] <mojo_> Lynoure: just goofing ... you said if the quality is not perfect and i read life... i am tired and off topic.  sry just poking fun
[11:12] <brainly-green> I did
[11:12] <brainly-green> and got it to shut down
[11:12] <Lynoure> mojo_: I was asking PORDO for more info.
[11:12] <brainly-green> so what's the difference between a terminal and a virtual terminal?
[11:13] <adamonline45> AJIEXA: You can also put it in etc/init.d, and "sudo rc.d scriptname"... or something like than, anyone care to append?
[11:13] <mojo_> Lynoure: peace man it's all good :)
[11:13] <Lynoure> AJIEXA: just add e.g. pre-up /etc/network/firewall
[11:13] <AJIEXA> adamonline45: i do it and i can't login after that
[11:13] <Xif> Hi. I'm getting "Error activating XKB configuration.", and some of my keys don't work.
[11:13] <brainly-green> argh
[11:14] <bunt> DCC SEND hjmsvhjmsvhjmsvhjmsvhjmsvhjmsvhjmsvhjmsvhjmsvhjmsv
[11:14] <adamonline45> AJIEXA: Are you accessing remotely, ssh or telnet-like?
[11:14] <brainly-green> ok now I restarted and it's a different desktop
[11:14] <Lynoure> AJIEXA: into the interfaces and then the iptables rules into /etc/network/firewall.
[11:14] <AJIEXA> Lynoure: i must put all my cfg file or only iptables-resotore  ?
[11:14] <brainly-green> I believe it's KDE which I just installed
[11:14] <Xif> Any help?  I don't want to reinstall Ubuntu...
[11:14] <brainly-green> and also it's not a correct installation apparently
[11:14] <brainly-green> oh xmodmap
[11:14] <brainly-green> I know what that is
[11:14] <AJIEXA> adamonline45: no i access localy
[11:14] <brainly-green> I can change that
[11:14] <adamonline45> AJIEXA: Are you saying you have multiple configurations, and one script to run them all?
[11:15] <adamonline45> AJIEXA: or, to choose between the differenc configurations?
[11:15] <Lynoure> AJIEXA: you can do either. I like to put the actual rules there, so that one can quickly see which rules we are supposed to have.
[11:15] <ardchoille42> That's funny. bunt did that ddc exploit and immediately got k-lined. I love Freenode :)
[11:15] <Bogaurd> Hi... I'm having some problems with beryl running under edgy
[11:16] <Bogaurd> i mean, ive enabled hardware acceleration on my card, things that use hardware acceleration seem to run really well
[11:16] <Bogaurd> but then i start beryl (which itself runs fine)
[11:16] <Xif> The full error is here: http://rafb.net/p/EISsAn88.html
[11:16] <Bogaurd> and anything else that uses hardware acceleration goes really slowly
[11:16] <AJIEXA> no no no .... I have one config file  - and save it by iptables-save .. it's working but i must every restart my system wright in console "sudo iptables-restore etc ... "
[11:16] <Xif> I have no idea what it means and how to resolve it.
[11:17] <AJIEXA> I ask because before i use mandriva and there i put it in /etc/sysconfyg/iptables
[11:17] <brainly-green> what could cause a wrong hard link count
[11:18] <brainly-green> almost every time I do a search it tells me "warning: hard link count is wrong for /proc/(somenumber)"
[11:18] <brainly-green> is that probably a hardware error
[11:18] <Bogaurd> even things like scrolling in firefox go much more slowly when beryl is open
[11:18] <Bogaurd> and video doesnt play very smoothly
[11:18] <adamonline45> AJIEXA: Oh, oh, you're using the built-in way to save iptables info :)  I'm afraid I use a thrid-party script, since my firewall needs change drastically and frequently, so I can not help you... :/  I remember reading about that recently though, if I find it I'll post it here...
[11:18] <adamonline45> !iptables
[11:18] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[11:20] <Xif> (...Isn't the firewall on by default?)
[11:20] <AJIEXA> Lynoure: I not understand yet ... :)  - I must wright in "interfaces" just "iptables-restore /home/alex/iptables.save" ???
[11:21] <mah> !codecs
[11:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:21] <adamonline45> AJIEXA: Read ubotu's link, about halfway down, in the section called 'configuration on startup' and that should best explain Lynoure's approach, I belive...
[11:21] <mah> Ty.
[11:21] <Lynoure> AJIEXA: no, if you use pre-up rule, I think you need to actually point to a script
[11:22] <finalbeta> I need to pass an argument to one of the kernel modules at boot time. What file do I edit?
[11:22] <adamonline45> AJIEXA: Sorry, Ubotu has many links posted right now :) Here's the one I mean: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[11:22] <Lynoure> AJIEXA: in that script file you can have the restore or the rules, up to you.
[11:22] <NoEvidenZ> Who wants to donate me a super computer and an OC connection?
[11:22] <Lynoure> NoEvidenZ: Try Freecycle =)
[11:22] <TheSkorm> I will donate
[11:22] <NoEvidenZ> WIN!
[11:23] <NoEvidenZ> I know everyone here wants to be in the position that they could donate a supercomputer and an OC connection, but how many of you are? :P
[11:23] <AJIEXA> THX for all  - went to read ... I'l be soon :)
[11:23] <adamonline45> OC == optical?
[11:23] <mojo_> NoEvidenZ: beowulf cluster up a bunch of old xboxes off ebay now that the christmass kiddies got their new gamesystems
[11:23] <NoEvidenZ> yeah
[11:24] <TheSkorm> NoEvidenZ what is your full name, credit card details, bank  card details, shipping address, signature, ip address and root password
[11:24] <adamonline45> TheSkorm: Good answer...
[11:24] <NoEvidenZ> TheSkorm: Well...
[11:24] <TheSkorm> i need to pay youm and i need to install your connection
[11:24] <adamonline45> mojo_: I was thinkin' parallel processing ;)
[11:24] <NoEvidenZ> TheSkorm: I think you may have misunderstood the meaning of "donate". All you'd need is a shipping address. :P
[11:25] <TheSkorm> von neuman bottle neck
[11:25] <graniti> hi. if i do "sudo su", it asks me the password. But if i do "su myuser" soon after, and then again "sudo su" it doesn't ask me the password again... why? thnks
[11:25] <NoEvidenZ> mojo_: I need monies! D:
[11:25] <TheSkorm> NoEvidenZ i need to donate the price for the connection
[11:25] <mojo_> NoEvidenZ: that is a common theme everywhere
[11:25] <adamonline45> graniti: I believe there's a timeout implemented, where it'll save your sudo status for a bit?
[11:26] <NoEvidenZ> TheSkorm: Tape the cash to the inside of the computer. =] 
[11:26] <mojo_> NoEvidenZ: are you just playing games with us?  You are not being serious i hope, lol!
[11:26] <NoEvidenZ> Well, I'd seriously accept it..
[11:26] <NoEvidenZ> Who here WOULDN'T take apart a supercomputer before they even turned it on?
[11:26] <TheSkorm> dont you hate it when you where socks and your hairs on your feet get angled up
[11:26] <adamonline45> NoEvidenZ: What will you name this new supercomuter?  how many teraflops are we talkin' here?
[11:27] <mojo_> NoEvidenZ: I can get a superman sticker and slap it on an old pc/xt for you... does that count?
[11:27] <mojo_> super... computer..  =D
[11:27] <adamonline45> TheSkorm: Hah, I've worn socks every day for so long the only hair I have below my ankles in on my toes...
[11:27] <TheSkorm> my toe hair is so bloody long
[11:27] <mojo_> adamonline45: says a lot about the condition of your sox, lol!
[11:27] <graniti> adamonline45: ok, but which is the conf file associated?
[11:27] <NoEvidenZ> mojo_: Send me a standard computer and it'd be a dream come true. :P
[11:27] <TheSkorm> i can proberly wrap it around my toe 3 times
[11:27] <yomm> tow hare :)
[11:28] <mlabreveux> coucou
[11:28] <TheSkorm> cha
[11:28] <gfavard> HHHHooooooo
[11:28] <gfavard> fr ??
[11:28] <gfavard> serveur ?
[11:28] <Xif> How do I reinstall the X server?
[11:28] <adamonline45> graniti: Now that is a good question.  You mean to adjust the timeout?  I have no idea :O
[11:28] <NoEvidenZ> adamonline45: I'd name her "TheSuperFlopper" and i'm talking enough teraflops to cause a supernova. ;)
[11:28] <mlabreveux> represente pour mes niggiz
[11:28] <TheSkorm> la tie sae teh der grrr mmkay
[11:28] <gfavard> Yu want to fuck my wife ????
[11:28] <mojo_> NoEvidenZ: dead serious:  if i could i would. but i am between jobs and can't even afford the gas to get to interviews... talk about a catch 22 i am worried about a place to live in a few weeks.
[11:28] <gfavard> Whats the nationalitie of serv
[11:29] <gfavard> ??
[11:29] <NoEvidenZ> Eee...
[11:29] <frogzoo> gfavard: go away
[11:29] <NoEvidenZ> Ouch..
[11:29] <gfavard> loul
[11:29] <yomm> gfavard be nice !
[11:29] <ardchoille42> Can we take the off topic conversation to another channel please?
[11:29] <gfavard> y y  :)
[11:29] <TheSkorm> ja ja ja
[11:29] <NoEvidenZ> mojo_: Borrow your parent's car.
[11:29] <yomm> how do I mute annoying persons ?
[11:29] <adamonline45> I mean, socks server...
[11:29] <mojo_> NoEvidenZ: but if you go to www.freecycle.org with an HONEST plea and explanation of why posted to a local list, I am sure you'll find someone who will donate a computer for you .. you'll just have to pick it up.
[11:29] <TheSkorm>  /ignore personal name
[11:29] <yomm> thx skorm
[11:30] <mojo_> NoEvidenZ: I once gave away a 1986 Camaro to a family thru freecycle
[11:30] <VSpike> I'm in a pickle.  I added a repo containing latest nVidia binary drivers, and my server won't start because of a mismatch between the driver and kernel module..
[11:30] <NoEvidenZ> =o
[11:30] <TheSkorm> ambient is really nice and easy to listen too.....
[11:30] <Hempathy> I've just given away a 19" monitor on freecycle
[11:30] <NoEvidenZ> mojo_: Maybe if you'd sold it you would've had the money for gas. :P
[11:30] <Xif> Somehow the keyboard support of my X server has gone totally fubar. I can't switch languages, and I'm getting error messges.
[11:30] <graniti> adamonline45: found it: (/ect/sudoers). add this line: Defaults		!lecture,tty_tickets,timestamp_timeout=0
[11:30] <VSpike> I realise that driver is not supported here, but I'd like to go back to the ubuntu packaged driver and I can't figure out how
[11:30] <VSpike> I've tried
[11:31] <adamonline45> VSpike: Can you boot using the install cd?
[11:31] <mojo_> NoEvidenZ: I have a car and do get gas money loaned to me by my brother.  I will have a job soon... it is just really tight.  I was trying to illustrate the point, not piss and moan.  I will survive anything.  I like camping ;)
[11:31] <VSpike> I've tried  #nvidia and #ubuntu-xgl but no life
[11:31] <adamonline45> graniti: Cool, I'll add that to my notepad!  thanks :)
[11:31] <VSpike> adamonline45: i'm ok into single user
[11:31] <cmt^^> how come dvd::rip stops in the middle of the ripping process, and nothing happends?
[11:31] <mojo_> NoEvidenZ: that was like 2 or 3 years ago man
[11:32] <graniti> adamonline45: y w :)
[11:32] <mojo_> NoEvidenZ: I'd have spent that money. I have been unemployed since November... christmas season sucks for finding tech jobs, but it is picking up.
[11:32] <VSpike> I'm just not expert enought with dpkg/apt/aptitude etc to do what I want, or understand what
[11:32] <VSpike> 's going on
[11:32] <VSpike> fscking laptop keyboard..sorry :)
[11:32] <adamonline45> VSpike: have you tried uninstalling it? Dumb Q, I know...  sudo dpkg -r <drivername>
[11:32] <mojo_> NoEvidenZ: Just what do you need this computer for anyway, if I may ask?
[11:33] <adamonline45> VSpike: wait I know
[11:33] <adamonline45> VSpike: Is it the same driver, just a later version, and you want to roll back?
[11:33] <VSpike> adamonline45: yeah, exactly
[11:33] <Tarsinion1> Does anyone know how i can set a password to an archive ?
[11:33] <VSpike> adamonline45: if I remove the repo from the list, nothign happens automatically
[11:34] <VSpike> adamonline45: so I need to force a downgrade on some packages I guess
[11:34] <Xif> If anyone has any idea how to address this -> http://rafb.net/p/EISsAn88.html - please tell me. Even a radical solution like reinstalling X would be acceptable; I'm considering resintalling Ubuntu because of this.
[11:34] <DoomOver> hello
[11:34] <NoEvidenZ> mojo_: The hard drive in my Ubuntu computer just crapped itself. It was shitty to begin with though. The on board graphics is faulty.. Everything's just thrown together from spare parts.
[11:34] <adamonline45> VSpike: you want the repo, I think...  that's just the place you'll find the files you're looking for... Type "dpkg -h" and look for........
[11:34] <TheSkorm> i talk in the
[11:34] <TheSkorm> standard pyrmid shape in which
[11:35] <TheSkorm> things get bigger as i say them which means it gets harder to read
[11:35] <TheSkorm> plus it means that one sentence is sperated into more than one line
[11:35] <NoEvidenZ> mojo_: I also need some sort of access point or to run wires through my house so I can have more than one computer in my room connected to the net.
[11:35] <Tarsinion1> How do i set a passwort to an archive e.g. zip file or tar.gz ?
[11:36] <ardchoille42> Xif, You got a weird keyboard or something?
[11:36] <yomm> no clue here Xif
[11:36] <adamonline45> VSpike: Dar n, where is it?  I just saw it today...  still looking...  there's something about rolling back somewhere, I swear I saw it in some earlier man readings I was doing...
[11:36] <mojo_> NoEvidenZ: Find your local freecycle list, i am not kidding.  Schools also get donated junk-puters and may have more than they need, so you can rummage for parts.  Churches too sometimes.  But remember, asking for charity usually should be backed up with a reasonable need, like you need it for school or something.  Not I'm broke and can't afford a new toy, understand?
[11:36] <Xif> archangelpetro: sort of, the hardware is Logitech wireless internet pro, and I'm using a Hebrew layout in addition to the EN-US
[11:36] <mojo_> NoEvidenZ: we can talk off channel if you want me to go on.
[11:37] <TheSkorm> Tarsinion1 one choice is mash it up into a thousands peices and randomly put it into a order and remember that order, then tell the other person the order so they can unmush it.
[11:37] <TheSkorm> or read this page here http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man1/zip.1.html
[11:37] <cmt^^> Anyone know why dvd::rip stops in the middle of the ripping process?
[11:38] <cmt^^> and just sits there idle, while the 'Remaining:' time just keeps growing?
[11:38] <adamonline45> VSpike: Ugh, it's lost forever now :)  I'd shoot for a simple sudo apt-get remove drivername; sudo apt-get install drivername... assuming your previous version is still available....
[11:39] <Xif> archangelpetro: (oh, and one of the results of this problem is that I can't switch to Hebrew mode with Alt-Shift as I previously could.
[11:39] <ardchoille42> Xif, I would first try reconfiguring xorg with the proper keyboard specs.
[11:39] <VSpike> adamonline45: it's the dependancies which worry me
[11:40] <Xif> archangelpetro: I did, several times.
[11:40] <Xif> archangelpetro: the KB worked at the beginning (not sure what the hardware was, something generic)
[11:40] <ardchoille42> Xif, Does this problem happen on any keyboard? or just that one?
[11:41] <ardchoille42> Xif, What did you do just before this problem starting ocurring?
[11:42] <Xif> ardchoille42: played around with gconftool-2
[11:42] <AJIEXA> I do like in manuale - why i can't do this "#sudo iptables-save > /etc/iptables.up.rules" - I have information about "pressmision denided" - why ???
[11:42] <Xif> ardchoille42: disabled some KB shortcuts.
[11:42] <VSpike> cananyone tell me what the current versions of nvidia-glx in the edgy repos is?
[11:42] <ardchoille42> Xif, And what were you chaning in gconf?
[11:42] <ardchoille42> Xif, Can you return those to what they were?
[11:43] <Xif> ardchoille42: I'm not sure how. Basically, Alt-Shift stopped working
[11:43] <ardchoille42> Xif, Sounds like you disabled it in gconf
[11:44] <Xif> ardchoille42: might have, any idea how to reinstitute it?
[11:44] <ardchoille42> Xif, Did you do this via a terminal?
[11:44] <Xif> ardchoille42: yes
[11:44] <AJIEXA> People, help me plz... I do like in manuale - why i can't do this "#sudo iptables-save > /etc/iptables.up.rules" - I have information about "pressmision denided" - why ???
[11:44] <ardchoille42> Xif, open a terminal and run the 'history' command to see what you did, then you can reverse it.
[11:45] <Tarsinion1> TheSkorm: that cant be the final solution ;-)
[11:45] <Xif> ardchoille42: thanks, I'll try this next.
[11:45] <Tarsinion1> there should be a standard way to set a password :S ?
[11:45] <Tarsinion1> for an archive
[11:46] <mneptok> Tarsinion1: there is. GPG.
[11:46] <VSpike> yay I have an X server :)
[11:46] <Tarsinion1> yes i know :)
[11:47] <TheSkorm> zip -P password filename
[11:47] <TheSkorm> i think
[11:47] <mneptok> those passwords are *so* pointless
[11:47] <brainly-green> shift-apple-back-delete
[11:47] <mneptok> like a deadbolt lock on a screen door.
[11:48] <mneptok> brainly-green: "apple?"
[11:48] <Sunjo> how do i go about install cedega that is in a cpkg format?
[11:48] <finalbeta> I need to pass an argument to one of the kernel modules at boot time. What file do I edit?
[11:48] <brainly-green> I have a macbook
[11:48] <brainly-green> in addition to my ubuntu tower
[11:48] <TheSkorm> shift,shift,shift.shift,shift, ctrl+alt+del, s , enter
[11:48] <mneptok> brainly-green: that key is called "command" ;)
[11:48] <TheSkorm> do that in windows 2000/xp pro
[11:49] <TheSkorm> and plays a nice tune
[11:49] <Sunjo> how do i go about install cedega that is in a cpkg format?
[11:49] <brainly-green> yeah well I just called it "apple" so it has been called apple, in fact I'm calling it apple right now so it IS called apple
[11:49] <mneptok> Sunjo: #cedega?
[11:49] <axa-axa> Hi. I have small keyboard and there is no right CTRL key, bu instead Menu (Windows) and Properties keys. How can I make right (or both if that is too much to bother with) Menu key to work as CTRL?
[11:49] <sdac221x> hi,  can someone tell me how to mount and ntfs partition in ubuntu.  Qparted says that my ntfs partition is /dev/sda1.   i am doing "sudo sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /media/win"  but i get the following error  "mount: /dev/sda1 already mounted or /media/win3 busy.  mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda1 is mounted on /media/win"
[11:49] <sdac221x> any ideas ?
[11:50] <mneptok> sdac221x: maybe it's actually already mouted?
[11:50] <ardchoille42> sdac221x, already mounted?
[11:50] <mneptok> sdac221x: have you looked in /media/win ?
[11:51] <sdac221x> yes media/win was created by me
[11:51] <ardchoille42> sdac221x, type mount and see if it's already mounted
[11:51] <mneptok> sdac221x: have you **** looked **** in /media/win ?
[11:51] <fontpd> I can't figure out what filesystem to use whem mounting this usb drive. It's a windows drive, but -t vfat and  and -t ntfs do not work.
[11:51] <cikas> installation step failed;you can try to run the failling item again from the menu,or skip it and choose something else.the failling step is:select and install sofware
[11:52] <cikas> can anybody help me?
[11:52] <sdac221x> it says "bash: cd: /media/win: Permission denied"  when i try to look
[11:52] <ardchoille42> sdac221x, type mount and see if it's already mounted
[11:52] <mneptok> sdac221x: use nautilus
[11:52] <cikas> pls help me to install ubuntu
[11:52] <Alarm> hello, is it possible just to have an application to copy-paste file in a dvd-rw ?
[11:52] <Alarm> instead of using k3b for example
[11:53] <mneptok> sdac221x: and if that does not work, chown/chmod are your friends
[11:53] <dusty__> Hey guys, I did an apt-get install, and now I have a webserver running (the CUPS GUI web interface).  I don't use CUPs or even the linux box for printing at all, how can I stop it from running?
[11:53] <sdac221x> yes it says permission denied in nautlits.  is there a way to unmount
[11:53] <fontpd> up, nevermind. I was using the wrong device.
[11:54] <cikas> at top of the window is 'configuring fdutils'
[11:54] <cikas> installation step failed;you can try to run the failling item again from the menu,or skip it and choose something else.the failling step is:select and install sofware
[11:54] <cikas> pls help
[11:54] <denardo> Hi, all. How do I switch between the built-in sound on my laptop and my VxPocket PCMCIA audio device? Both are supported, but switching between them baffles me.
[11:54] <ardchoille42> sdac221x, sudo umount /dev/sda1
[11:54] <mneptok> cikas: md5sum the CD. dowload again if necessary. burn at </= 4x
[11:55] <cikas> i burn it at 1x
[11:55] <mneptok> cikas: md5sum the CD ISO image. download again if necessary.
[11:55] <Xif> denardo: Volume Control -> File -> Change Device
[11:55] <axa-axa> I have small keyboard and there is no right CTRL key, bu instead Menu (Windows) and Properties keys. How can I make right (or both if that is too much to bother with) Menu key to work as CTRL?
[11:56] <Xif> How do I shut down X without having it restart a few seconds later, like it does for Ctrl-Alt-Backspace ?
[11:56] <cikas> md5sum????
[11:56] <ardchoille42> Xif, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:56] <denardo> Xif: Where is Volume Control?
[11:56] <Xif> denardo: several places, most accessibly in your task bar
[11:56] <Xif> (the speaker icon)
[11:57] <mike1o> : i've successfully installed the drivers by running the official binay & manually changing "nv" to "nvidia" in my xorg.conf but  i have to rerun the script and restart X everytime after I boot
[11:57] <denardo> OK, found it.
[11:57] <Xif> ardchoille42: thanks
[11:58] <ardchoille42> I guess he stopped more than just x, lol
[11:58] <denardo> Hmm, changing the device had no effect
[11:58] <dusty__> Hey guys, I did an apt-get install, and now I have a webserver running (the CUPS GUI web interface).  I don't use CUPs or even the linux box for printing at all, how can I stop it from running?
[11:58] <Staz> Hi, what was the crappy display driver for xorg.conf?
[11:59] <Ferret> vesa
[12:00] <denardo> More Hmm -- some apps are using the selected device, some aren't.
[12:00] <axa-axa> I have small keyboard and there is no right CTRL key, bu instead Menu (Windows) and Properties keys. How can I make right (or both if that is too much to bother with) Menu key to work as CTRL?
[12:01] <voicu> Can I forward all internet traffic to another machine? To make it look like the one behind the router has the external ip address..
[12:01] <brainly-green> axa-axa you might want to look into xmodmap
[12:01] <voicu> i tried with iptables and i'm not sure it worked
[12:02] <raf256> hello fellow linux users
[12:02] <raf256> I am making a 30 second survey about users of linux - can you help?
[12:02] <raf256> the results will be public available :)
[12:02] <raf256> http://tinyurl.com/2uazkw
[12:02] <axa-axa> brainly-green: Frankly I don't want to lose too much time only for this, is there maybe some graphical utility?
[12:02] <raf256> btw, I hope the page is viewable also in terminal
[12:02] <ardchoille42> raf256, This isn't the place for that.
[12:02] <TechSalvager> nalioth, around mate?
[12:02] <raf256> ardchoille42: why? I need opinions from various groups
[12:03] <ardchoille42> !offtopic
[12:03] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:03] <mike1o> !nvidia
[12:03] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:04] <raf256> hmm
[12:04] <cmt^^> what's wrong with this: "header("Location: db_login.php");
[12:04] <cmt^^> It gives me a syntax error..(?)
[12:05] <raf256> ardchoille42: can you then reccomend me a better place? we aim to gather about 500 responses to have reasonable results
[12:05] <ardchoille42> raf256, Please take this conversation to ##ubuntu-offtopic
[12:05] <raf256> ardchoille42: oh, ok
[12:05] <raf256> ardchoille42: but there is no such channel.
[12:06] <ardchoille42> raf256, Placing you on my ignore list
[12:06] <mojo_> raf256: why dont you get prepared in an appropriate channel, and then pop in and invite folks to join you there?  when you have enough people you can go...
[12:06] <Staz> Ferret : cheers my brain remembered 'mesa' which is close :)
[12:06] <raf256> ardchoille42: oh noes.
[12:06] <mojo_> raf256: but be BRIEF, nobody likes soliciations much in any channel
[12:08] <mojo_> raf256: #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:08] <raf256> mojo_: ok
[12:08] <mabus> where can I specify what media plugin I want firefox to use to play files?
[12:11] <pfarmer> cmt^^: what error do you specifically get?
[12:11] <archangelpetro> xif ??
[12:12] <cmt^^> pfarmer - sorry, wrong channel
[12:12] <cmt^^> thought I was in #php
[12:12] <ardchoille42> archangelpetro, He meant to type my name, but tab completion bit him, lol
[12:12] <cmt^^> pfarmer - '
[12:12] <cmt^^> Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_STRING in /var/www/blogg/db_logentry.php on line 21
[12:12] <archangelpetro> ahh ok ty ardchoille42  :D
[12:13] <pfarmer> cmt^^: have you had an answer in #php?
[12:15] <cmt^^> pfarmer - yes, thank you anyways :)
[12:15] <cmt^^> just forgot a "
[12:15] <mabus> probably not, only decent programming help chan on freenode is #perl :)
[12:19] <ad_> azureus does not show on my system tray when i run 6.1.. what's the fix?
[12:21] <axa-axa> If "Control_R" referers to left CTRL key in output of `xmodmap -pke` command, why doesnt my right Windows key behaves like CTRL after `xmodmap -e 'keycode 116 = Control_L'` ?
[12:22] <_polto_> hello all
[12:22] <cmt^^> How do I set nano to use smaller tabs?
[12:22] <cmt^^> it's in the .nanorc i figure, but what's the syntax for changing tab size?
[12:23] <axa-axa> If I try to map that key to Alt_R than it works, but if I try to make it behave like CTRL by mapping it to Control_L (or Control_R) it doesnt.
[12:23] <_polto_> how can i change the "System" menu in gnome? I'dd like to add an "Abount my company" ...
[12:24] <pfarmer> cmt^^: set tabsize "n"
[12:24] <cmt^^> pfarmer - in .nanorc?
[12:25] <Azul> _polto_: right click > edit menus
[12:25] <pfarmer> cmt^^: yeah
[12:25] <pfarmer> cmt^^: try it and see
[12:26] <cmt^^> pfarmer - perfect, thanks
[12:26] <pfarmer> cmt^^: :)
[12:26] <axa-axa> Anyone, please?
[12:28] <_polto_> Azul , no you can't modify System menu like what.
[12:29] <DaveR> Hi
[12:30] <DaveR> Will ubuntu run on this spec: P3 1ghz, 128mb ram?
[12:30] <soundray> DaveR: not well. Try xubuntu.
[12:31] <cmt^^> How do I type out a file > clipboard in a terminal?
[12:31] <soundray> DaveR: or get some extra RAM, because the CPU is fine
[12:31] <DaveR> ok, cause i tried running the live disk to install and it seems to take ages for it to load the prvie and nothing seems to happen.
[12:31] <Ricket> Okay so I started my Ubuntu (actually Edubuntu, although I uninstalled the edubuntu features) computer this morning to a lovely error message, something to the tune of an automatic fsck failed so i have to do it manually and then reboot.
[12:31] <Ricket> I have seen this once before too; what is it? what's the problem?
[12:32] <Xif> Ricket: sounds like a hard drive problem.
[12:32] <DaveR> for the price of a RAM stick i will just upgrade i think.
[12:33] <soundray> Ricket: your filesystem is in an inconsistent state, and it's giving you a chance to make a partition image before you do the fsck, because fsck needs to make changes that cannot be undone
[12:33] <Ricket> Maybe I'll try getting and running SpinRite then... I've been meaning to get it anyway for a while
[12:33] <mabus> I made the unfortunate mistake of installing to empty space on my disk instead of formatting my hard disk... how can I move all of the files from the small partition to a new one that is at the beginning of the disk?
[12:34] <mabus> DaveR: you really should take his advice and try xubuntu
[12:34] <soundray> mabus: boot the live CD, format the new partition, mount the new and the old, and copy everything over.
[12:34] <mabus> soundray: copy everything over with just a... `cp`?
[12:34] <Ricket> Okay so I suppose after running SpinRite I'll make another attempt at Ubuntu. What do I type to get this fsck to be happy and then get back into Ubuntu so I can look at a few files before wiping the hard drive and fixing it?
[12:35] <mabus> nothing will get missed or borked in that way?
[12:35] <soundray> mabus: use either "cp -a" or the tar method from the Tips-HOWTO
[12:35] <soundray> mabus: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Tips-HOWTO-2.html#ss2.6
[12:36] <soundray> mabus: oh, and do everything from a sudo shell (sudo -i)
[12:36] <Uo> Can't access ACPI events in /var/run/acpid.socket! Make sure the ACPI subsystem is working and the acpid daemon is running.
[12:36] <axa-axa> Can someone please tell me how to map CTR to right Windows key?
[12:37] <axa-axa> If "Control_R" referers to left CTRL key in output of `xmodmap -pke` command, why doesnt my right Windows key behaves like CTRL after `xmodmap -e 'keycode 116 = Control_L'` ?
[12:37] <axa-axa> If I try to map that key to Alt_R than it works, but if I try to make it behave like CTRL by mapping it to Control_L (or Control_R) it doesnt.
[12:37] <Uo> Cann't add battery monitor to panel
[12:38] <Uo> ...
[12:38] <Uo> Who can help me ?
[12:39] <eternalswd> how do I configure which java to use?
[12:39] <DaveR> mabus: what is missing from it?
[12:39] <eternalswd> !java
[12:39] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[12:39] <soundray> eternalswd: "sudo update-alternatives --config java"
[12:39] <axa-axa> !xmodmap
[12:40] <ubotu> xmodmap: X input map modification. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 18 kB, installed size 76 kB
[12:40] <Ricket> bleah, i'm getting errors about "Inodes"... this is territory that i've never traveled in before :)
[12:40] <mabus> soundray: thanks
[12:40] <mabus> DaveR: missing from xubuntu? well it just has a different (lighter, and in my opinion better) window manager
[12:40] <eternalswd> update-alternatives: unknown argument `-config' any ideas?
[12:40] <Uo> ?
[12:40] <holyduck_> we need a fluxubuntu
[12:41] <mabus> holyduck_: it exists
[12:41] <holyduck_> :O
[12:41] <mabus> I am running fluxbox on ubuntu right now
[12:41] <nothlit> #fluxbuntu holyduck_
[12:41] <soundray> eternalswd: you used the wrong type of hyphen. Try with a minus
[12:41] <mabus> but not the actual fluxbuntu... it's xubuntu with flux
[12:41] <holyduck_> i am running fluxbox too
[12:41] <holyduck_> ubuntu server
[12:41] <holyduck_> with fluxbox
[12:41] <holyduck_> as in i innstalled the server edition
[12:41] <holyduck_> without lamp
[12:41] <mabus> yeah
[12:41] <mabus> familiar with it
[12:41] <holyduck_> and then installed x.org
[12:42] <holyduck_> and so on
[12:42] <DaveR> mabus: i will give it a try then, i only want to give linux a try on a spare computer.  if all goes well i am going to a computer fair next week so will proble get some ram to boost it as looking at the spec it is a itte out dated.
[12:42] <bimberi_> !fluxbuntu
[12:42] <ubotu> fluxbuntu is a LPAE-standard compliant, Ubuntu-based derivative that maintains the goal of running on a wide range of mobile devices and computers (low-end & high-end). It is lightweight, swift and efficient. | Support Channel: #fluxbuntu on freenode | Homepage: http://fluxbuntu.org/
[12:43] <Ricket> yay my fsck'ed computer started up XD
[12:43] <eternalswd> soundtray, that was weird, any idea why was the hyphen different?
[12:44] <Uo> ??
[12:44] <Ricket> i think the linux writers named it "fsck" on purpose, instead of calling it something like "chkdsk" like windows :)
[12:45] <mabus> ubotu should probably note that fluxbox doesn't have anything finished except for artwork :/
[12:45] <soundray> eternalswd: not sure. It looked like an effect from autocorrect in OOo writer. That changes a double hyphen to a single long one.
[12:45] <mabus> fluxbuntu I mean
[12:45] <soundray> mabus: is that so? They really have their priorities right ;)
[12:45] <mabus> It has a dev version but doesn't appear to be complete/stable/something I'd advise advertising in #ubuntu
[12:46] <holyduck_> how hard can it realy be, i mean atleast installing fluxbox from a ubuntu server is the easy
[12:46] <eternalswd> soundray, hmmm couldn't tell on my machine, maybe my font does both the same.  I copied off a website, go figure
[12:46] <holyduck_> but then again, making a cd and distor might be harder
[12:46] <Ricket> What is a good, lightweight torrent client for Linux? I use uTorrent on Windows XP but I might switch my main "server" computer to Linux if I can find equivalents of all my Windows programs... Which isn't very many :)
[12:46] <mabus> holyduck_: well the livecd has a predefined password, which is pretty stupid for one
[12:47] <mabus> Ricket: rtorrent if you can handle ncurses type stuff
[12:47] <mabus> as in no pretty gui
[12:47] <mabus> otherwise, just use wine and run utorrent
[12:47] <Ricket> mabus: actually i _just now_ found KTorrent which, according to some news thing, is the "uTorrent for Linux users"
[12:47] <mabus> the standalone, executable version + wine works fine
[12:47] <Ricket> but isn't that for the other desktop which ubuntu isn't?
[12:48] <Ricket> i mean K[blah] , not wine
[12:48] <DaveR> i have a usb wireless dongle, is there software to run this so i can connect to my network or not?
[12:48] <soundray> Ricket: most kde applications work just fine in ubuntu's gnome
[12:48] <mabus> Ricket: ubuntu and kubuntu just come with different display managers (gnome/kde)
[12:48] <Ricket> DaveR: what make and model?
[12:48] <mabus> you can install KDE stuff in gnome and vice versa
[12:48] <Ricket> ah, okay, cool.
[12:49] <Ricket> DaveR: what make and model?
[12:49] <Ricket> i have a WG111 netgear wireless adapter and I got it working
[12:49] <Ricket> it required ndiswrapper, and blacklisting some interfering drivers
[12:49] <mneptok> Ricket: looking for a torrent client? ;)
[12:49] <Ricket> DaveR: you might be looking for an answer as simple as, look at ndiswrapper, or if you have problems then you might be left searching google for a time
[12:50] <DaveR> Ricket: no idea mate, it doesn't have any markings and it was just the one which cam with my network router which is a mid range no make one lol
[12:50] <Ricket> mneptok: of course
[12:50] <mneptok> Ricket: sudo aptitude install bittornado-gui
[12:50] <mabus> I'm telling you, rtorrent is the best. Because you can put it in screen <3
[12:50] <Ricket> DaveR: weird.
[12:50] <soundray> DaveR: the older it is, the better your chance for it to work
[12:50] <ZeiP> I've managed to screw my config files up  I previously had LDAP-based authentication, which I removed, however now I'm not able to login at all.
[12:50] <mabus> Ricket: actually, the *best* torrent client is torrentflux... but you need to have a webserver running on that machine (not hard)
[12:50] <ZeiP> Where can I find the correct lines in the /etc/pam.d files?
[12:50] <DaveR> soundray: it is about 18 months od
[12:50] <mabus> sets up a website where you can manage downloads etc, remotely if you wish
[12:50] <DaveR> od
[12:50] <DaveR> old
[12:51] <mneptok> Ricket: go with BitTornado. runs natively, has a good feature set, and can be used from a CLI or GUI
[12:51] <mabus> mneptok: I'm going to vote against that but to each his own.
[12:51] <Ricket> mabus: yeah I looked at that for Windows XP but it was incredibly slow, although I would expect it to be faster on Linux..
[12:51] <mneptok> mabus: uhhhh ....
[12:51] <mneptok> mabus: did you not just recommend T-flux?
[12:51] <mabus> no I didn't
[12:51] <Ricket> lol
[12:51] <DaveR> this is it: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Netgear-WG111-Wireless-54Mbps-Adapter/dp/B0002LHX8O/sr=8-16/qid=1170330683/ref=sr_1_16/203-1695907-7739913?ie=UTF8&s=electronics
[12:51] <soundray> DaveR: it's hard to tell. You really need to know what chipset is used inside to determine whether it has Linux support. You could try finding out the chipset via the FCC number.
[12:51] <Xif> mabus: why is it the "*best*"? what can it do?
[12:52] <mabus> I reccomended rtorrent or wine, I just said tflux was the best
[12:52] <DaveR> i think the company might have rebranded the casing of mine
[12:52] <Ricket> Xif: can be accessed easily through a browser, which is just cool.
[12:52] <mabus> Xif: Because I am at a friends house and I am managing my torrent downloads with a pretty web interface.
[12:52] <mneptok> mabus: guess what Torrentflux uses as its torrent client engine .....
[12:52] <mneptok> ;)
[12:52] <soundray> DaveR: still -- Ricket got one of those to work, mine doesn't
[12:52] <Ricket> yeah at the moment, i'm using the beta of uTorrent's WebUI version/plugin and it works great
[12:52] <mabus> btcurses.py or whatever
[12:53] <mneptok> mabus: BitTornado
[12:53] <Ricket> soundray: maybe you have conflicting drivers too?
[12:53] <mabus> mneptok: No I'm pretty sure it uses bittorrent-curses.py
[12:53] <Ricket> soundray: i just googled and tried all sorts of things til it worked
[12:53] <mneptok> mabus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torrentflux
[12:54] <mabus> mneptok: checked my configs, you are right sir
[12:54] <soundray> Ricket: that's the way -- with sufficient energy, you can get almost anything to work. I don't need mine at the moment, and I'm keeping it as a spare. It'll be supported in feisty.
[12:55] <mneptok> mabus: that's why they pay me the big bucks ;)
[12:55] <Ricket> soundray: lol yeah, but that's the problem with linux... it requires significantly more energy than windows xp :)
[12:55] <mabus> Is that why I'm unemployed?
[12:55] <mneptok> wait ... no they don't! HEY!
[12:55] <azrael1> Ricket: False.
[12:55] <Ricket> soundray: it took me hours to find that solution, and there are plenty of people that gave up without finding the solution. i don't even know how you would go about figuring out that drivers are conflicting with nmapwrapper...
[12:56] <mabus> heh nmapwrapper
[12:56] <mneptok> Ricket: one word. regedit.
[12:56] <Ricket> i mean, spending hours to figure out how to make a usb wireless adapter work with ubuntu... i almost just gave up ubuntu
[12:56] <soundray> Ricket: on the other hand, if something doesn't work in Windows, more often than not you are completely stuck.
[12:56] <Ricket> mneptok: linux has a registry??
[12:56] <Ricket> mneptok: oh lol nvm, i get it. you're saying it's complicated
[12:57] <Ricket> soundray: not sure whether that's any more true than it is for linux...
[12:57] <mneptok> Ricket: i'm saying "Linux is no more complicated for a Windows user than is Windows for a Linux user."
[12:58] <mabus> Ricket: no, it's open
[12:58] <Ricket> mneptok: could be. i haven't been a linux user so...
[12:58] <mabus> so you can make it work, it's just a limit as to how far you will go
[12:58] <Ricket> ah yeah, open source.
[12:58] <Ricket> that would be pretty far to have to travel though, just to get a wireless usb device to work :)
[12:59] <Ricket> i would rather just use a wireless bridge, hehe
[12:59] <soundray> Ricket: yes, I think it is, simply because you have full flexibility, up to and including changing the source code. Tried that with Windows? ;)
[12:59] <mneptok> Ricket: say i want to install a good bitmap editor. in Ubuntu i type "sudo aptitude install gimp" how abouit Windows?
[12:59] <Jedrick> how to enable openglx.. i can't run wine because of this openglx thingy
[12:59] <mabus> well, somebody had to do that before your wireless usb device worked
[12:59] <mabus> as in, code their own open drivers
[12:59] <Ricket> mneptok: yes, I agree Linux sure wins with its package manager
[12:59] <_polto_> how can i change the "System" menu in gnome? I'dd like to add an "Abount my company" ...
[12:59] <soundray> mneptok: you go to a shop and buy an expensive shrinkwrap package with an obnoxious license ;)
[12:59] <mabus> mneptok: ms paint > *
[12:59] <Ricket> mneptok: but in Windows, to get my video card to work I went to ati.com and installed the universal drivers. can't say the same for Ubuntu...
[01:00] <Ricket> mabus: no, actually I used ndiswrapper which used the Windows drivers
[01:01] <Ricket> mabus: (re: somebody had to do that before...)
[01:01] <soundray> Ricket: well, it's probably not Linux's fault that ATI provides cr.. erm, poor support for it.
[01:02] <Ricket> soundray: I should think that if ATI can make a universal driver program, the Linux programmers could do the same...
[01:02] <Ricket> Anyway we aren't getting anywhere arguing, both OSes have their ups and downs
[01:02] <soundray> Ricket: no, they can't, unless ATI provides them with the hardware specs, which they don't.
[01:02] <Ricket> I'm just saying, I have had a better experience with Windows. And apparently everyone here has had better experience with Ubuntu.
[01:03] <Ricket> soundray: decompiling/disassembling. that's how wine did it, so why not video drivers.
[01:03] <soundray> Ricket: they are working on that
[01:04] <soundray> Ricket: but the chipsets change so quickly that it's always a game of catchup.
[01:04] <IntuitiveNipple> The thing most people forget about is, with Linux, most people that 'hack' drivers are unpaid volunteers, whereas almost without exception the people creating Windows drivers are employed by the company that developed the hardware.
[01:04] <soundray> Ricket: especially if you're competing with developers who have the full specs and are paid prime salaries.
[01:04] <Ricket> Indeed.
[01:05] <mojojojo__> :)
[01:05] <Ricket> Is that really a win for Linux? :-P
[01:05] <rausb0> soundray: yeah, the spec thing is one big difference
[01:05] <IntuitiveNipple> mmmm, just what i need - just had a fab walk around the farm
[01:05] <mneptok> Ricket: re: video drivers .... *that's an ATI problem, not a Linux problem*
[01:06] <philipsmith> I want to share files between my ubuntu and XP machine and have followed directions at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26438 . When I do a Places > Connect to server I can see my windows network and follow it to get files on the XP machine. However, when I'm on the XP machine, I can see the ubuntu machine in the windows workgroup, but when I try to login with my ubuntu username and password, XP won't let me loo
[01:06] <philipsmith> k at the folders on my ubuntu machine. What did I do wrong?
[01:06] <IntuitiveNipple> The beauty, and the biggest headache about Linux, is access to the source-code. It means if you have the talent you can hack a solution, but *boy* its hard-work because much of the code is poorly documented and changes arbitarily with very little top-down documentation
[01:07] <Ricket> okay well I'm off to wipe my drive, SpinRite it, then put Ubuntu back on and set it up again. I'll be back if I have questions, which surely I will when I'm trying to set up my ATI card.
[01:07] <mneptok> philipsmith: your /etc/samba/smb.conf needs editing
[01:07] <soundray> philipsmith: I had a similar problem. In my case, the ownership and permissions of the shared folders were wrong.
[01:07] <philipsmith> mneptok: how does /etc/samba/smb.conf need to be changed?
[01:09] <soundray> philipsmith: also, make sure you've used smbpasswd -- samba doesn't look at the usual unix passwords.
[01:09] <philipsmith> soundray: I used sudo smbpasswd -a `whoami` then set the password. Is this correct?
[01:09] <meal3837> ok, fglrx doesn't support radeon 7000, but the ati driver included with ubuntu doesn't support 3D rendering
[01:10] <meal3837> is there a driver that does both?
[01:10] <meal3837> opensource driver
[01:10] <mneptok> philipsmith: you need to enable user access
[01:10] <mneptok> philipsmith: look at the file. you'll find it. :)
[01:11] <soundray> philipsmith: yes -- although I don't like the backticks. Better to do 'smbpasswd -a $(whoami)'
[01:11] <rausb0> meal3837: the ubuntu ati driver does support 3d, but only for some ati radeon cards
[01:11] <mojo_> Ricket: the problem is that ATI wants to keep their drivers closed source to hide things, or because they have signed non-disclosure agreements with other companies that supply components and are restricted.  So they write a glue program that can compile in linux (open source) and it provides the black-box bridge to the ATI stuff... But then ATI is just slow and non-responsive in general to the Linux community.  Linux devs would DO IT FO
[01:11] <mojo_> R THEM FOR FREE if they'd just release some specifications.  But they want to keep secrets, which is counter to the philosophy that has allowed Linux to blossom.  See this article... http://www.kroah.com/log/2007/01/29/#free_drivers
[01:11] <mike1o> houston we have a problem http://sh.nu/p/8709
[01:11] <soundray> philipsmith: better still, 'smbpasswd -a philipsmith' or whatever your username is.
[01:12] <PORDO> ImportError: No module named Image <-- any python experts?
[01:12] <Sum> hey room
[01:12] <Sum> can anyone tell me how to format a disk/usb stick to fat32??
[01:12] <yomm> isn't the default user added automatically to the smbpasswd group ?
[01:12] <meal3837> aka not mine
[01:12] <meal3837> lol
[01:13] <soundray> Sum: use mkdosfs -F32 (I think it's in dosfstools)
[01:13] <Sum> yeah!!
[01:13] <Sum> lets try it out
[01:13] <rausb0> meal3837: i dont know the radeon 7000. here i have a radeon 9200pro and radeon x300, both run with the open source radeon driver and 3d accel.
[01:14] <Sum> what do I put as the location??
[01:14] <soundray> Sum: be careful when you enter the device name. Get it wrong, and you're formatting your Ubuntu partition ;)
[01:14] <esperegu> where does ubuntu store it's session infoL
[01:14] <esperegu> ?
[01:14] <Jedrick> anybody here had encounter the same error like mine.. i have problem in wine on openglx support.
[01:14] <Sum> DOHHH!!!
[01:14] <esperegu> (which prograws it start at login)
[01:14] <Sum> nah, let me try this out
[01:14] <ReYnoLd_sby> surabaya
[01:14] <meal3837> my computer is definitely an 8y/o frankenstein . . . I'll take what I can get, and if that doesn't include beryl, oh well
[01:15] <pesco> Hi, what's the recommended upgrade path from 6.06 to 6.10 with ubuntu server? Is the apt-get dist-upgrade path safe?
[01:15] <soundray> Sum: you need to find that out for yourself. Running 'tail -f /var/log/syslog', then plugging the drive may give you a hint.
[01:15] <mike1o> houston we have a problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3672/
[01:15] <soundray> Sum: probably something like /dev/sda1
[01:15] <soundray> mike1o: don't repeat, and treat us with a little respect.
[01:15] <rodox> hi folks
[01:16] <rodox> someone can help me with gedit?
[01:16] <mike1o> soundray: i respect linux people
[01:16] <vlt> Hello. I just replaced my AMD Athlon XP CPU with an AMD Athlon 64 X2, still running 2.6.15-27-k7 (now SMP). Is -k7 still a good choice? Should I switch to -686? Why is CPU usage in `top` shown as INT only now? ...?
[01:16] <aidan> hey
[01:16] <rodox> it doesn't do python highlight correctly
[01:17] <meal3837> rodox: how so?
[01:17] <philipsmith> soundray many thanks.
[01:17] <rodox> meal3837: the string color isn't appear
[01:17] <ReYnoLd_sby> surabaya
[01:17] <rodox> meal3837: strings appears at common text
[01:17] <meal3837> did you already save the file as .py?
[01:18] <Sum> all I got was
[01:18] <Sum> Feb  1 11:54:20 localhost kernel: [17183064.244000]  NTFS volume version 3.0.
[01:18] <rodox> meal3837: yes
[01:18] <Sum> Feb  1 12:17:01 localhost /USR/SBIN/CRON[7655] : (root) CMD (   run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly)
[01:18] <Sum> Feb  1 12:17:41 localhost kernel: [17184465.708000]  usb 1-1.4: USB disconnect, address 5
[01:18] <Sum> Feb  1 12:17:42 localhost kernel: [17184465.964000]   1:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to dead device
[01:18] <Sum> Feb  1 12:17:42 localhost kernel: [17184465.964000]  FAT: bread failed in fat_clusters_flush
[01:18] <Sum> Feb  1 12:17:42 localhost kernel: [17184465.964000]   1:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to dead device
[01:18] <soundray> vlt: stick with k7, it makes very little difference (if any)
[01:18] <meal3837> hmm
[01:18] <bimberi_> rodox: View -> Highlight Mode -> Scripts -> Python
[01:18] <Sum> sorry for the dump!!
[01:18] <soundray> Sum: you're not supposed to paste stuff here. Read the topic.
[01:18] <rodox> meal3837: I did it
[01:18] <rodox> meal3837: I change the foreground color, but it have no results in editor window
[01:18] <Sum> sorry mate,
[01:19] <Sum> didn't know that
[01:19] <rodox> meal3837: it happened with me using dapper
[01:19] <rodox> meal3837: now with edgy too
[01:19] <aidan> DBO thaks for help earlier
[01:19] <meal3837> so it's just staying black on strings?
[01:20] <rodox> meal3837: yes, only on strings
[01:20] <Rly> anyone can help me by providing me knowlege on installing ubuntu on a dynamic disk?
[01:20] <meal3837> but works with the rest of the highlighting?
[01:20] <rodox> meal3837: imports, classes and defs are highlighted
[01:21] <rodox> meal3837: it only happens with strings
[01:21] <soundray> Sum: observe the messages while you plug it *in*, and look for clues regarding the device name (It's one of /dev/sda, sdb, sdc etc.)
[01:21] <meal3837> do you have IDLE?
[01:22] <rodox> yes, but I don't like Tk
[01:22] <meal3837> aH
[01:22] <modulus> hi, my ubuntu system doesn't seem capable to make more than a sound at a time
[01:22] <Sum> nah, not sure where the device is, or its address, but thanks soundray
[01:22] <modulus> at least while using orca if i call totem i get an error about the sound device being in use.
[01:23] <rodox> meal3837: I think that is a problem with libgtksourceview
[01:23] <modulus> the sound device is told by lspci to be as followss: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[01:23] <meal3837> has it ever worked?
[01:23] <rodox> no, never worked
[01:23] <rodox> it is a fresh ubuntu install
[01:23] <pbureau> Iam compiling Networkmanage 0.6.4 and I get  in ./configure a "checking dynamic linker characteristics... cat: /etc/ld.so.conf.d/*.conf: No such file or directory" am I missing a library or is this normal ?
[01:24] <modulus> you might be missing a linker.
[01:24] <modulus> do you have build-essential?
[01:24] <soundray> Sum: if you're sure that your main hard drive is not /dev/sda (check the output of mount, it's most likely /dev/hda), then you can reasonably safely try 'mkdosfs -F32 /dev/sda1'
[01:24] <Xif> How do I get stuff like gmail-notify to auto-run on startup?
[01:24] <pbureau> going to check (I knew that was the next quesdtion after seein "linker:"
[01:25] <soundray> Xif: do you actually mean startup, or login?
[01:25] <Xif> soundray: gmail-notify has gui components, so probably after X and Gnome were started.
[01:25] <Xif> does that mean startup or login? :)
[01:26] <soundray> Xif: System-Preferences-Sessions-Startup Programs
[01:26] <ReYnoLd_sby> hancok
[01:26] <meal3837> I'm checking some things, just a sec
[01:26] <Xif> soundray: thanks
[01:27] <jancok> surabaya
[01:29] <meal3837> rodox: still have your cd?
[01:30] <rodox> meal3837: yes
[01:30] <meal3837> mmk, have you tried removing and reinstalling gedit?
[01:32] <meal3837> if you try that, it might want to take ubuntu-desktop with it
[01:32] <meal3837> and you have to do a separate install to get that back
[01:32] <soundray> meal3837: and if you ask me, it's not going to make the slightest difference
[01:33] <meal3837> idk if that will help at all, but it's possible there was a minor glitch in the original install
[01:33] <aidan> hi
[01:33] <meal3837> back when he set up with dapper
[01:33] <aidan> need help setupin codec
[01:33] <meal3837> unlikely, I know, but I'm not sure what else it could be
[01:34] <soundray> meal3837: I wonder if (s)he would get the same thing with a different/new user
[01:34] <aidan> need help
[01:35] <meal3837> hmm, maybe
[01:35] <aidan> setup in media codec
[01:35] <soundray> aidan: you need to ask a question
[01:35] <aidan> how do i instal tthe stupid gstremer mp3 codec
[01:35] <soundray> aidan: follow the instructions on the wiki
[01:36] <soundray> !mp3 | aidan
[01:36] <ubotu> aidan: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:36] <meal3837> help.ubuntu.com will show you how
[01:36] <aidan> tryed that serval times
[01:36] <aidan> didnt work
[01:36] <soundray> !doesn't work
[01:36] <ubotu> Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[01:36] <meal3837> mp3 is overated
[01:36] <holyduck_> meal3837, true dat
[01:37] <meal3837> convert the worl to ogg
[01:37] <aidan> well then i need a converter
[01:37] <meal3837> *world
[01:37] <aidan> ogg is it better then mp3?
[01:37] <soundray> I would like to convert all my mp3's to jpg, how do I go about that?
[01:37] <lounge> why does openoffice not save my print areas when i save a document? it seems to loose all the print area details and print everything every time I load up. I have to set them every time??!? any offers?
[01:37] <soundray> Just kiddin'
[01:37] <meal3837> ogg is free
[01:37] <holyduck_> and awsome
[01:37] <aidan> yeah not an album i got
[01:38] <aidan> its in mp3 format
[01:38] <compengi> !paste
[01:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:38] <christo> Guys, I don't have the 'Configuration Editor' under Applications -> System Tools.   Anybody know what package this is part of please ?
[01:38] <philipsmith> how do I find out what my netbios name is?
[01:39] <meal3837> who here's familiar with the network tools?
[01:39] <meal3837> whois, finger, etc
[01:39] <meal3837> !finger
[01:39] <ubotu> finger: user information lookup program. In component main, is optional. Version 0.17-10 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 76 kB
[01:40] <eXistenZ__> What is the best filesystem to share between windows and linux?
[01:40] <holyduck_> fat32
[01:40] <aidan> aidan@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gxine libxine-main1 libxine-extracodecs ogle ogle-gui
[01:40] <aidan> Reading package lists... Done
[01:40] <aidan> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:40] <aidan> E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.10-pitfdll
[01:40] <aidan> aidan@ubuntu:~$
[01:40] <holyduck_> eXistenZ__, fat32 is a good choiche
[01:40] <philipsmith> meal3837: Do you mean that to find my netbios name is to use finger?
[01:40] <eXistenZ__> holyduck_, ext2?
[01:41] <uuz8> er chat.118.lv
[01:41] <holyduck_> i dunno if windows can read and write to that, but i used to use fat 32 for inbetween windows and linux file sharing
[01:41] <meal3837> philipsmith, no, sorry separate question
[01:41] <eXistenZ__> holyduck_, yeah
[01:41] <eXistenZ__> holyduck_, http://www.fs-driver.org/
[01:41] <soundray> eXistenZ__: ext3 is a good choice if you can install a driver for it in Windows (ext2fsd)
[01:42] <eXistenZ__> I have an ntfs partition, I wonder whether it would be able to convert it to ext3
[01:42] <soundray> eXistenZ__: sure: backup, reformat, restore ;)
[01:42] <meal3837> aidan: pitfdll?
[01:43] <eXistenZ__> soundray, Are you on Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[01:43] <soundray> eXistenZ__: what does it matter?
[01:43] <modulus> hmm, any clues why the sound card might not want to play more than a sound at a time?
[01:43] <meal3837> aidan: I don't think you need that one
[01:43] <eXistenZ__> soundray, Just of interest.
[01:44] <soundray> eXistenZ__: ubuntu
[01:44] <eXistenZ__> ah, same to me. I'm using now windows, though.
[01:44] <aidan> well what do i need then meal3837
[01:44] <soundray> modulus: one of your sound programs is using OSS output mode, thereby hogging the whole sound system.
[01:44] <modulus> oy. that is bad.
[01:45] <meal3837> aidan did it install the rest of the packages that you wanted, or did it hang on the one it couldn't find
[01:45] <modulus> is it possible to find who is the evil one?
[01:45] <aidan> hang on
[01:45] <soundray> modulus: it probably is
[01:45] <modulus> would fuser /dev/dsp do it?
[01:45] <meal3837> try that command without the pitfdll
[01:46] <aalhamad> i just have a Q.. and im seeing for help to get started.. I have done a heloo word example (http://www.w3schools.com/php/php_syntax.asp) and i placed it in my DocumentRoot... But as i acess it i get a file which download ... why is that???
[01:46] <aidan> aidan@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10- E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:46] <aidan> aidan@ubuntu:~$
[01:46] <holyduck_> aidan, apt-get aptitude or synaptic is running
[01:47] <modulus> sounds like you have another apt app opened.
[01:47] <meal3837> aidan, tru dat
[01:47] <meal3837> aidan:it's probably a zombie, or something similar
[01:47] <aidan> im confused
[01:48] <aidan> add aplications is open
[01:48] <meal3837> aidan, ok, either use add application or command line
[01:49] <aidan> okies
[01:49] <aidan> cmd line seems easyer atm
[01:49] <meal3837> aidan: you can't use both, because you can only have one instance of apt
[01:49] <aidan> and also how do i ping users on here :S
[01:49] <meal3837> man ping
[01:49] <aidan> meal3837 ping
[01:50] <meal3837> what?
[01:50] <meal3837> oh, in the chat? fiik
[01:50] <aidan> did i ping u??
[01:50] <soundray> aidan: it's considered bad manners to address support questions to someone who's not currently active.
[01:50] <aidan> and does xmms allow for mp3 playback
[01:50] <Stormx2> bash: ./dmg2iso.pl: /usr/local/bin/perl^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory <-- Suggestions? I don't know what to do. Running a .pl file
[01:50] <meal3837> I don't know what your talking about, for me, ping is a network tool
[01:51] <Stormx2> aidan: XMMS is old and outdated, and looks ugly
[01:51] <aidan> ok what should i use
[01:51] <meal3837> aidan: try amarok
[01:51] <Stormx2> Audacious
[01:51] <Stormx2> Which is like XMMS but good
[01:51] <soundray> Stormx2: find out where your perl binary really is, and edit dmg2iso.pl to reflect that location. (which perl)
[01:51] <Stormx2> soundray: Okay. How can I find where my perl binary is?
[01:51] <soundray> Stormx2: do you mean audacity?
[01:51] <soundray> Stormx2: I told you
[01:51] <soundray> which perl
[01:51] <meal3837> aidan: I also like listen audio player
[01:52] <aidan> so audacious play mp3
[01:52] <aidan> with out install codec?
[01:52] <Stormx2> soundray: Oh, haha, didn't see that
[01:52] <Stormx2> aidan: What? o.o
[01:52] <Stormx2> aidan: Do you want a command line player? if so try mpg321...
[01:53] <aidan> do u need to install a codec to listen to mp3 on audacious
[01:53] <christo> Guys, I don't have the 'Configuration Editor' under Applications -> System Tools.   Anybody know what package this is part of please ?
[01:53] <cwillu> odd request:  I want a task list/menu that pops up on a mouse short cut;  how would I do that?
[01:53] <aidan> no i want a good one lol like windows media plaer
[01:53] <meal3837> aidan:I agree with you, someone should write a converter that changes audio formats . . . it would make life lovely
[01:53] <cwillu> christo: alt+f2 and run gconf-editor brings it up
[01:53] <meal3837> WMP?!?!?!
[01:53] <koslow> hi alle zu sidux wechseln,besser gibts ja nix in der welt
[01:53] <meal3837> gag
[01:53] <cwillu> christo: it's in the menu, but hidden:  alacarte can unhide it
[01:53] <koslow> !sidux
[01:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sidux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:54] <aidan> well i am a windows user lol just trying this out to see if its better lol
[01:54] <christo> cwillu - thanks
[01:54] <meal3837> I'm pretty sure if any commercial media player should be compared to it's iTunes
[01:54] <koslow> ubotu see www.sidux.com
[01:54] <soundray> Wrong channel koslow (hast dich wohl verirrt)
[01:54] <cwillu> !mp3 | aidan
[01:54] <ubotu> aidan: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:54] <aidan> done that been there
[01:54] <Pici> koslow : ubotu is a bot
[01:54] <cwillu> aidan: mp3's are easy to handle though;
[01:55] <koslow> is ok
[01:55] <aidan> umm i hav been trying all day dude
[01:55] <modulus> mmm
[01:55] <cwillu> aidan: have you install any packages?
[01:55] <aidan> ok wlak me though how to setup the codec think
[01:55] <cwillu> one sec
[01:55] <aidan> dont no how to
[01:55] <koslow> soundray ne wollte nur stimmung hier sehen
[01:55] <soundray> aidan: just close your "Add applications" and retry the apt-get install
[01:55] <modulus> is there any reason why a program might be using OSS instead of alsa? may i have misconf'ed something?
[01:55] <soundray> !de
[01:55] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:56] <cwillu> aidan: system|admin|synaptic, open that
[01:56] <aidan> okies
[01:56] <modulus> oy oy
[01:56] <cwillu> aidan: ctrl+f, type in gstreamer
[01:56] <soundray> cwillu: just let aidan finish what he's started
[01:56] <koslow> byby
[01:56] <hid3> Hello everyone. I accidently ran chown -R www-data:www-data /. Then I changed back all the ownership (according to my recent backup copy). However, when I try to `su`, it says Authentication failure. I'm still able to login as root directly. Is it possible somehow to solve this?
[01:57] <aidan> okcwillu
[01:57] <cwillu> oops, sorry, didn't notice anyone was talking to him soundray
[01:57] <aidan> cwillu
[01:57] <Laibsch> hid3: You want sudo not su
[01:57] <aidan> what now after typed in gstreamer
[01:58] <hid3> Laibsch: using sudo says something similar to 'you must be setuid'
[01:58] <soundray> aidan: if the install has worked, you should now be able to play mp3s with rhythmbox
[01:58] <vlt> Hello. I just replaced my AMD Athlon XP CPU with an AMD Athlon 64 X2, still running 2.6.15-27-k7 (now SMP). Why is CPU usage in `top` shown as INT only now? ...?
[01:58] <mbirkis> what does "bad PBR sig" meen?
[01:58] <aidan> aidan@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-
[01:58] <aidan> Reading package lists... Done
[01:58] <aidan> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:58] <aidan> E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.10
[01:58] <aidan> aidan@ubuntu:~$
[01:59] <soundray> aidan: do not paste here
[01:59] <pbureau> hid3, system|administration|users and Groups|root| set password manually. then try again
[01:59] <aidan> god this is gay
[01:59] <cwillu> aidan: sounds like the line got cut off
[01:59] <aidan> well ok
[01:59] <mike1o> do i need the linux-386 package?
[01:59] <cwillu> aidan: it's just considered rude to post several lines of errors at a time (there's a site for that)
[01:59] <pbureau> hid3, I had something like it for somereason the password had been mangled, I reset it that way never had a problem afterwards
[01:59] <aidan> i am using 5.10?
[02:00] <meal3837> whoa
[02:00] <hid3> pbureau: how did you reset it?
[02:00] <meal3837> 5.10
[02:00] <pbureau> hid3, I just typed a new one :)
[02:00] <aidan> yeah 5.10 went to site to get recent one sent out to me but u have to pay
[02:00] <hid3> tried it, didn't help..
[02:00] <pbureau> aidan, in a terminal window type uname -r
[02:00] <soundray> mike1o: no
[02:01] <cwillu> aidan: you can download the latest if you can burn it yourself
[02:01] <mike1o> soundray: is it source?
[02:01] <cwillu> only have to pay to get the cd shipped to you
[02:01] <aidan> ok pbureasu
[02:01] <soundray> mike1o: no. 'apt-cache show linux-386' will tell you what it is.
[02:01] <meal3837> I had 6.06 shipped free when it was new
[02:01] <aidan> ok cwillu will do that laters
[02:01] <mike1o> soundray: its probably just a virtual package
[02:02] <aidan> done that pureau
[02:02] <meal3837> aidan, that might be the problem, if there are still repositories for 5.10, gstreamer10 probably won't be in them
[02:02] <aidan> ok
[02:03] <aidan> is there a version of gstremer i can get for it
[02:03] <aalhamad> how to make php running ?? --------------PLZ HELP--------
[02:03] <cwillu> aidan, others:  they had good bad and ugly back for 0.8, right?
[02:03] <Igor_V2> how can i convert .mp3 file to .ogg
[02:03] <cwillu> back in rather
[02:03] <meal3837> what I would probably recommend is go to help.ubuntu.com and follow the instructions for upgrading to 6.06 lts
[02:04] <aidan> well thjis comp hasnt got a burn
[02:04] <aidan> er
[02:04] <meal3837> you can upgrade w/o cd
[02:04] <modulus> net upgrade.
[02:04] <meal3837> yep
[02:04] <aidan> ok
[02:04] <meal3837> you can do it through apt
[02:04] <soundray> !mp32ogg | Igor_V2
[02:04] <ubotu> mp32ogg: Converts MP3 file to Ogg Vorbis. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11-7 (edgy), package size 7 kB, installed size 64 kB
[02:04] <modulus> it will take ages though.
[02:04] <cwillu> aidan: if you can see packages call gstreamer-0.8-plugins-ugly, that should do the trick;  otherwise, searching for mp3 and installing any gstreamer packages would work (although a bit ugly)
[02:05] <soundray> Igor_V2: it loses quality though
[02:05] <meal3837> instructions are all on the sight !dist-upgrade | aidan
[02:05] <meal3837> !mp32ogg
[02:05] <ubotu> mp32ogg: Converts MP3 file to Ogg Vorbis. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11-7 (edgy), package size 7 kB, installed size 64 kB
[02:05] <Laibsch> I am trying to install Xubuntu on an old computer.  I got the alternate CD but for some reason, the GUI won't come up.  I did get the command prompt.  Is there a command that will start the installation process?
[02:05] <Igor_V2> thanks soundray
[02:06] <modulus> afaik the alternate cd has no gui.
[02:06] <aidan> couldnt find gstreamer-0.8-plugins-ugly
[02:07] <soundray> Laibsch: try and hit return
[02:07] <cwillu> aidan: k, must be from a newer version as well
[02:08] <meal3837> !dist-upgrade
[02:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dist-upgrade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:08] <aidan> man ping cwillu http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/src/gstreamer/
[02:08] <soundray> !upgrade
[02:08] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:08] <aidan> see on there and tell me what one to get
[02:08] <Stormx2> How would I go about recovering data recently deleteted on a FAT partition in ubuntu?
[02:08] <modulus> maybe cat the partition to a file?
[02:09] <modulus> then use an editor to look for it.
[02:09] <Laibsch> soundray: As expected, I get a newline with a new command prompt.  What command do I use now for starting installation?
[02:09] <Laibsch> !installation
[02:09] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[02:09] <Tessa_> Does anyone know how i can get detailed information about how much RAM is given to my onBoard Intel graphic card?
[02:09] <meal3837> aidan, are you ok with manual compilation?
[02:09] <aidan> lol i think i will be meal
[02:09] <meal3837> aidan, ok
[02:10] <soundray> Laibsch: what does that prompt look like?
[02:10] <Jowi> Tessa, look into you BIOS
[02:10] <modulus> maybe the free command would give you some idea too.
[02:11] <aidan> what should i do meal?
[02:11] <Tessa> Jowi: Let me be more precise. I entered an option "VideoRam 65443" in the xorg.conf and i would like to see if it works. So is there a way besides the BIOS?
[02:11] <Laibsch> soundray: ubuntu@ubtuntu:~$
[02:11] <meal3837> aidan, I'm checking around a bit
[02:11] <Jowi> Tessa, modulus is correct. "free -m" will give you current mem. deduct that total mem from what you know is in your machine.
[02:12] <soundray> Laibsch: strange, it should have booted into the installer. Does Alt-F1 change anything?
[02:12] <soundray> Laibsch: and were you asked to set your keyboard layout?
[02:12] <aidan> ok so can i download 6.10 version a .iso of it
[02:12] <aidan> and how would i go about extracinting it
[02:12] <modulus> yes, but you need a burner to use iso.
[02:12] <aidan> damiit
[02:13] <modulus> it's better imo to net upgrade.
[02:13] <meal3837> !upgrade | aidan
[02:13] <ubotu> aidan: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:13] <modulus> you can net upgrade without trouble, mostly.
[02:13] <Laibsch> soundray: I will just retry.  Hold on.
[02:13] <meal3837> just cahnge your sources.list
[02:13] <Tessa> Jowi: havin 1001 MB Ram of which 972 is used though i specified 64 for the graphic card to use seems to mean that the VideoRam option in the xorg.conf doesnt work, right?
[02:13] <soundray> Tessa: don't use the VideoRam option. It is not needed for recent integrated cards.
[02:13] <dusty-work> Hrmm, I have an ubuntu server, it has an onboard crappy nic and a pci gigabyte nic (which i am currently using) the onboard one  just sits there and does nothing, but looking through the logs I see lots of errors regarding this onboard nic eth1, is there a way to disable it or tell linux to ignore it as it is not going to be used?
[02:14] <Tessa> soundray: not? i read that without this option my intel card gets 32MB by default. i'd like to give it 64. any idea how to do this without VideoRam?
[02:14] <soundray> Tessa: the VideoRAM allocation of your BIOS cannot be changed after boot, so you have to use the BIOS setup
[02:14] <soundray> Tessa: where did you read that?
[02:14] <Tessa> soundray: ok thanks for that tip. i ll check the bios
[02:15] <Tessa> soundray: let me find the link
[02:15] <meal3837> aidan, go here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades
[02:15] <mike1o> soundray: do u know any trick to show the debian menu?
[02:15] <Azul> wut up ma man
[02:15] <aidan> yeah
[02:15] <aidan> ill just do the mp3 codec
[02:15] <aidan> thing atm
[02:16] <Jowi> Tessa, not sure how accurate it is
[02:16] <soundray> dusty-work: you should disable your onboard NIC in the BIOS setup
[02:16] <tdn> I am trying to set up encrypted rootfs with LUKS. But I cannot boot. It says that no cryptfs is configured and then it waits for rootfs and I have to reboot...
[02:16] <Tessa> soundray: its a german entry in a linux forum. sort of a how to: http://www.linuxforen.de/forums/showthread.php?p=1490047
[02:16] <soundray> mike1o: no, sorry
[02:17] <aidan> ok meal found anythink bro
[02:17] <dusty-work> soundray: I can't its a production system.
[02:18] <meal3837> aidan, try looking for gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse, gstreamer0.8-plugins, gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg, gstreamer0.8-mad
[02:18] <aidan> all of them
[02:18] <meal3837> and gstreamer0.8-lame
[02:19] <soundray> Tessa: I take it all back -- you should be okay with that VideoRam option. Search in /var/log/Xorg.0.log relating to the amount used.
[02:19] <Tessa> soundray: ok. thx!
[02:19] <YogSothoth> Hi
[02:19] <soundray> Tessa: sry ...for messages relating...
[02:19] <soundray> dusty-work: does that mean you can't reboot it?
[02:21] <cwillu> is there an easy way to put a keyboard shortcut on an applet?
[02:21] <aidan> ok meal
[02:22] <meal3837> aidan, what part of the country are you from?
[02:22] <aidan> downloading all the things
[02:22] <meal3837> just out of curiosity
[02:22] <aidan> Aussie land bro
[02:22] <meal3837> sweet
[02:22] <meal3837> I used to work with a guy who went by aidan online
[02:22] <aidan> ok
[02:22] <mojojojo__> hi. I'm wondering if I can do the following thing... If I want to delete a package this would delete this package, as well as as other packages required by this package only if those packages are not required by other packages
[02:23] <mojo_> was he born nadia?  j/k
[02:23] <aidan> ok meal got the package thingo
[02:23] <meal3837> ok
[02:23] <meal3837> type gst-register-0.8
[02:23] <soundray> mojojojo__: aptitude will track package dependencies in this way
[02:24] <Alpha232> when building a dpkg, if the build rules have multiple packages, is there a wya to tell dpkg-buildpackage to only build a specific one?
[02:24] <mojojojo__> so... I have a package A and it requires package B and C. packages B is used by package X and package C is not used by any other packages. So if I delete a package A, packages C will be delete but packages B will remain
[02:24] <aidan> ok mate done that
[02:24] <aidan> Rebuilding user_registry (/home/aidan/.gstreamer-0.8/registry.xml) ...
[02:24] <aidan> Loaded 149 plugins with 296 features.
[02:24] <meal3837> mojojojo_theoretically
[02:25] <Alpha232> mojojojo__: hopefully
[02:25] <meal3837> ok, give it a try and cross your fingers
[02:25] <soundray> mojojojo__: aptitude
[02:25] <aidan> lol i hope so
[02:25] <iMac600> I may give Ubuntu a boot-up between Mac OS X and Ubuntu PPC
[02:25] <Jowi> mojojojo__, yes. if you install with aptitude it will track it that way. you need to remove with aptitude as well though. don't think apg-get nor synaptic support it.
[02:25] <AlexLatchford> Anyone around to gimme a shove in the right direction on who to assign this bug to..
[02:25] <AlexLatchford> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/41849
[02:25] <AlexLatchford> woops, wrong channel
[02:25] <mojojojo__> ok, thx guys :)
[02:25] <Tessa> soundray: thx. /var/log/Xorg.0.log was the right place to look. I found it! thank you!
[02:26] <L4J> hello
[02:26] <soundray> Tessa: gern
[02:26] <Alpha232> ubuntu
[02:26] <aidan> meal
[02:26] <Alpha232> gack
[02:26] <aidan> came up withj
[02:26] <meal3837> aidan, don't hate me if it doesn't work
[02:26] <Alpha232> lol ;)
[02:26] <aidan> foolowing items couldnt be loaded
[02:26] <aidan> nah i wont mate
[02:26] <meal3837> k
[02:26] <mojojojo__> Jowi, is it by default?
[02:26] <zyth> Hi, I'm having a weird issue in Wine regedit.  When I make a new key, it's named New Key #1, but I can't rename it
[02:27] <meal3837> which items?
[02:27] <L4J> i am new to ubuntu.. and had some question =)
[02:27] <aidan> this is way better the ubuntuforus
[02:27] <aidan> ok the file is not an audio strem
[02:27] <meal3837> what player are you using?
[02:27] <soundray> aidan: you're very lucky to have found someone as patient as meal3837
[02:27] <Jowi> mojojojo__, yes
[02:28] <mojojojo__> cool :)
[02:28] <soundray> !ask | L4J
[02:28] <ubotu> L4J: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:28] <meal3837> soundray, I'm only patient because I'm almost always lost
[02:28] <L4J> oh sorry. lol
[02:28] <aidan> yeah im really lost lol
[02:28] <L4J> Can I use both ubuntu and windows interchangebly on one pc?
[02:29] <IdleOne> L4J: yes
[02:29] <meal3837> aidan, which player are you using?
[02:29] <soundray> L4J: yes, it's called dualbooting
[02:29] <soundray> !dualboot | L4J
[02:29] <ubotu> L4J: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[02:29] <aidan> tryed rythembox and the gtkpod
[02:29] <iMac600> No catches on the ShipIt CD's?
[02:29] <meal3837> and they didn't work?
[02:29] <IdleOne> iMac600: catches?
[02:29] <aidan> no:(
[02:29] <iMac600> just any costs to Australia or something
[02:30] <meal3837> do you have totem-xine?
[02:30] <aidan> no
[02:30] <IdleOne> iMac600: they are free. some countries you may need to pay taxes or something like that but no catches
[02:30] <iMac600> ok
[02:30] <iMac600> thanks
[02:30] <meal3837> install it from apt
[02:30] <meal3837> and try that
[02:31] <Jowi> aidan, xmms is usually pretty good for streams. I use it with streamtuner to listen to radio.
[02:31] <IdleOne> Jowi: same here :0
[02:31] <IdleOne> :)
[02:31] <gabspeck> hi.. how do i configure the keyboard on my ubuntu edgy server (ie no GUI at all)?
[02:32] <soundray> gabspeck: do you mean the layout?
[02:32] <Jowi> aidan, I found that totem and rhythmbox (uses gstreamer) lacking in that area
[02:32] <IdleOne> iMac600: you do have to sign over your first born son after installation but becides that you should be ok with Shippit :)
[02:32] <meal3837> gabspeck, hit it with a hammer . . . or two
[02:33] <gabspeck> weirdly, the layout seems to be correct, it recognizes the  key... but the key with the / and ? isn't recognized at all
[02:33] <meal3837> aidan, hate to leave ya hangin, but I have to get ready for class
[02:33] <aidan> its k
[02:33] <soundray> gabspeck: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup"
[02:33] <aidan> cya in here next time
[02:33] <meal3837> yeah
[02:33] <maxx18> hey guys the screensavers are not working for me... the preview works fine but after i select one it still just shows a blank screen for my screensaver... any suggestions?
[02:34] <IdleOne> maxx18: did you check the box to activate screensaver ?
[02:34] <maxx18> IdleOne, yup i sure did
[02:35] <soundray> maxx18: check that your display isn't sleeping before the screensaver comes on. System-Preferences-Power Management
[02:35] <gabspeck> soundray: it's weird, i selected ABNT2, but that specific key does not work at all
[02:35] <maxx18> soundray, should be fine... screensaver comes on after 1 minute, display goes to sleep after 5 mins
[02:36] <soundray> gabspeck: hardware failure -- try another keyboard?
[02:36] <Dawei> Um... hi ppl. Sorry to be terribly foolish and nooby, but what do I enter as a Make rule to compile c sources?
[02:36] <soundray> maxx18: does the Preview button work?
[02:36] <gabspeck> no, i'm sure this one works, it's brand new and was working before i installed ubuntu
[02:37] <maxx18> soundray, yes preview works fine
[02:38] <Mba7eth> hi all
[02:38] <Dawei> Can someone help me with the "make" command? I'm attempting to install CDemu.
[02:38] <riotkittie> Dawei: uhm.
[02:38] <soundray> maxx18: I'm out of ideas then
[02:38] <Dawei> I can't find what to enter as the "rule to make target"
[02:38] <aidan> YESSS !!!!
[02:39] <name> Dawei: did you ./configure?
[02:39] <riotkittie> Dawei: did you ./configure
[02:39] <name> riotkittie: ha-ha, faster ;P
[02:39] <Mba7eth> guys i cant control the sound system once realplayer is up also the can't control the sound from realplayer itself ..... anyidea gents?
[02:39] <maxx18> soundray, damn.. well thanks for trying... i might post on the forums
[02:39] <riotkittie> name:  i noticed <cries>
[02:39] <gabspeck> soundray: is there any file i can edit manually to set up the keyboard?
[02:39] <Dawei> No...
[02:39] <`underOATH> what do i have to install to be able to compile things
[02:39] <Dawei> Yeah, what he said!
[02:39] <name> gcc g++
[02:39] <riotkittie> Dawei: well, ./configure :P
[02:40] <IdleOne> `underOATH: build-essential
[02:40] <`underOATH> kk thanks IdleOne
[02:40] <Dawei> Okay thanks ppl.
[02:40] <riotkittie> `underOATH: bu... ahh hi give up
[02:40] <riotkittie> err ah i
[02:40] <`underOATH> riotkittie: uhhhhhh what?
[02:40] <soundray> gabspeck: there are a series of files that determine keyboard behaviour, but it's very complex... give me a minute pls
[02:40] <riotkittie> i should just alias everything :x
[02:40] <IdleOne> lol riotkittie want we should ask if you know before we give the answer :P
[02:40] <Dawei> Obviously to all.... I'm new to linux.
[02:40] <gabspeck> ok
[02:40] <riotkittie> `underOATH: uhh nothing. :P
[02:40] <frogzoo> gabspeck: look into xmodmap & xev
[02:40] <`underOATH> lol
[02:41] <Dawei> But determined to learn.
[02:41] <riotkittie> IdleOne: yes, so i can feel smrt.  its all about meeeee.
[02:41] <`underOATH> it's been so long since i've used linux
[02:41] <frogzoo> `underOATH: then get ready for a shock
[02:41] <IdleOne> `underOATH: it's a little unofficial #ubuntu game person to give answer first gets a point ( there is never a winner or an end to the game but always fun )
[02:41] <soundray> gabspeck: start 'showkey' and check whether /? generates any keycodes
[02:41] <IdleOne> k riotkittie :)
[02:41] <`underOATH> IdleOne: are you in the leader :P
[02:42] <riotkittie> ok because i cant answer questions, i will ask one.
[02:42] <soundray> frogzoo: gabspeck is on server - no GUI
[02:42] <IdleOne> `underOATH: very far from lead
[02:42] <IdleOne> !offtopic > IdleOne
[02:42] <gabspeck> yes, 0x59 0xd9
[02:42] <name> !offtopic > name
[02:42] <frogzoo> soundray: kk
[02:43] <IdleOne> riotkittie: ask!
[02:43] <`underOATH> anyone know about installing good services to a beware ircd?
[02:44] <frogzoo> gabspeck: showkey -s   & setkeycodes
[02:44] <soundray> gabspeck: so it's working, but not showing the characters on the console... can you try with emacs21?
[02:44] <aalhamad> to remove a full apache..
[02:44] <logikon> double on
[02:44] <aalhamad> the comand is remove??
[02:44] <logikon> /window swap 2
[02:44] <logikon> /window double on
[02:44] <logikon> ops
[02:44] <logikon> :(
[02:44] <gabspeck> soundray: emacs21?
[02:44] <IdleOne> `underOATH: the ircd website should have services modules for the ircd
[02:45] <aalhamad> to fully remove  apache2 from the entire system.. i go remove apache?
[02:45] <soundray> gabspeck: if you haven't got it installed, never mind.
[02:45] <soundray> gabspeck: by the way, did you set "Generic 105-key (Intl) PC"?
[02:45] <Dawei> Whats the easiest way to create virtual cd drives? any options other than CDemu?
[02:46] <soundray> Dawei: it's not necessary to install anything
[02:46] <soundray> Dawei: just 'mount -o loop file.iso /mnt'
[02:46] <IdleOne> is it possible to create a virtual 500gig HDD? :)
[02:46] <Dawei> Yeah, but what about non-iso files?
[02:47] <Dawei> E.g. bin/cue, mdf/mds, nrg?
[02:47] <gabspeck> soundray: it's set as Brazilian ABNT2, which is what it really is. i tried to select generic 105 with dpkg-reconfigure console-setup, but it doesn't seem to change anything (ie, when i run it again the default selection is still ABNT2)
[02:47] <soundray> Dawei: you have to conver those
[02:47] <Dawei> Oh.
[02:47] <soundray> *convert
[02:48] <soundray> IdleOne: sure, you need a 750GB physical drive though ;)
[02:48] <IdleOne> soundray: :P well thats not gonna work out then
[02:48] <erlingre> t
[02:49] <soundray> gabspeck: did you go through the whole reconfigure process to the end?
[02:50] <gabspeck> yes
[02:50] <IdleOne> soundray: I dont know what I would do with 750GB prolly get into alot of trouble lol
[02:50] <yomm> 
[02:51] <whyameye> how can I get firefox to show me the list of installed extensions?
[02:51] <`underOATH> IdleOne: they do, i just don't get how to use em so im asking for help lol
[02:51] <soundray> IdleOne: we have a 1.5TB RAID at work, and I've been reprimanded for using almost a third of it...
[02:51] <kbrosnan> whyameye: tools -> extensions or tools -> addons
[02:52] <bauer77> I have 1 terabyte and it gets me in trouble
[02:52] <bauer77> hehe
[02:52] <IdleOne> `underOATH: I am guessing there is a modules/scripts folder you would put them in and then in the server.conf file you would need to enable/load the service
[02:52] <whyameye> kbrosnan: there's no option for addons there that I see...
[02:52] <kristianlm> hello everyone! does anyone have a good suggestion on how you can monitor hard disk access, like which process is constantly accessing my harddisk?
[02:53] <yomm> i just installed a 1TB RAID5 in my home server :)
[02:53] <IdleOne> soundray: mp3's?
[02:53] <kbrosnan> whyameye: then tools -> extensions if you are running firefox 1.5
[02:53] <jahid> hi, my ubuntu became stucked, and i had to restart my machine. now after restarting the ubuntu is started in console mode. how can i resolve and move to graphical mode?
[02:53] <soundray> IdleOne: no, 3D images of brains ;)
[02:53] <whyameye> kbrosnan: that's not showing plugins.
[02:53] <IdleOne> soundray: cool
[02:53] <yomm> jahid u using ubuntu 6 ?
[02:53] <IdleOne> jahid: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server
[02:54] <jahid> yomm, yes 6.10
[02:54] <whyameye> kbrosnan: I know there's something I can type in the address bar to see all of this...but can't remember what it is
[02:54] <yomm> try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[02:54] <kbrosnan> whyameye: plugins are completely different from extensions, for a list of plugins type about:plugins in the address bar
[02:54] <whyameye> kbrosnan: found it! about:plugins
[02:55] <barosl> kubuntu doesn't make ".desktop" file!
[02:55] <barosl> any solution?
[02:56] <jahid> youmm, after using "/etc/init.d/gdm start" i and got a message "coudlnt start X server, due to some internal error, communicate ur system administrator or check your syslog to diagnose. In the meantime this display will be disabled. Please restart gdm when the problem is corrected"
[02:56] <dyrne> barosl: /j kubuntu  :)
[02:56] <yomm> jahid , then try the dpkg-reconfigure Idleone suggested before !
[02:57] <barosl> ah i c
[02:57] <jahid> IdleOne, I tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure-xorg-server" but it says "command no found"
[02:57] <suzi> hi
[02:57] <IdleOne> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server
[02:57] <IdleOne> jahid: ^^^
[02:57] <defrysk> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:57] <Pici> jahid : are you in single user mode?
[02:57] <yomm> defrysk is right
[02:57] <defrysk> of course I am ;p
[02:57] <IdleOne> oops
[02:58] <yomm> tlol
[02:58] <IdleOne> jahid: sorry about that command I was wrong there :/
[02:58] <jahid> IdleOne, i tried all you said but it says the same
[02:58] <suzi> does anyone know how to get automatix for ubuntu 5.10
[02:58] <jahid> Pici, yes i m single user mode
[02:58] <yomm> jahid : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:58] <thunderstruck> !automatix | suzi
[02:58] <ubotu> suzi: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[02:59] <IdleOne> jahid: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg like this defrysk  had it right
[02:59] <suzi> thanx thunderstruck
[03:00] <yomm> all hail defrysk :p
[03:00] <_DREAM_> .
[03:01] <jahid> yomm, i tried "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" it says "command not found"
[03:01] <yomm> jahid : with sudo ?
[03:01] <jahid> infact sudo is not working. bocz machine logged me in as root. the prompt is like "root@jahid-desktop"
[03:02] <`underOATH> how can you find out which ircd an irc server uses
[03:02] <yomm> ok i c !
[03:02] <suzi> whats sudo?
[03:02] <suzi> !sudo
[03:02] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:02] <Pici> I dont think that trying to reconfigure the xserver will help, hes in single user mode.  I think the computer booted him there to manually fsck his drive
[03:02] <`underOATH> suzi: sudo is the command you can run to make the computer run as an admin
[03:02] <aalhamad> How can i REMOVE apache2 and apach from my entire system???
[03:02] <IdleOne> `underOATH: look in the status/server window of your irc client usualy near the top of the page it says
[03:02] <aalhamad> How can i REMOVE apache2 and apach from my entire system??? ... plzzz help
[03:02] <yomm> Pici : u could be right
[03:02] <Pici> aalhamad : apt-get remove apache apache2
[03:03] <aalhamad> thanks..
[03:03] <aalhamad> remove it completly..
[03:03] <jahid> and if i try with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" it says "sudo:command not found"
[03:03] <aalhamad> like i have to download it again rihgt??
[03:03] <`underOATH> IdleOne: you know everything
[03:03] <jahid> Pici, how can i fix that?
[03:03] <IdleOne> `underOATH: no I dont
[03:04] <Pici> jahid : did you try rebooting again?
[03:04] <aalhamad> Pici, remove it complety like i have to download it again right??
[03:04] <yomm> jahid: before rebooting , did the machine crash ?
[03:04] <Pici> aalhamad : you'll need to do an apt-get clean to remove any cached downloaded files too
[03:04] <jahid> yomm, my machine didnt crash. it just got stucked. then i pressed "Alt+Ctrl+Delete" more then one time and the PC restarted
[03:04] <yomm> Pici: he prob needs to fix whateva brought hum into su mode in the first place no ?
[03:05] <lipe> i would like to know how can i compile files .java ... please !!
[03:05] <aalhamad> ok thanks..
[03:05] <yomm> jahid: then try rebooting
[03:06] <jahid> yomm, what is the command to reboot from terminal?
[03:06] <grndslm> hello all, i'm having a little trouble getting the svn compilation started...complains about autoconf, and more likely some missing libraries??  something about LIBTOOL...anyway, i've installed all the dependcies listed in the README and on the website...here's my error(s):  http://pastebin.ca/335626
[03:06] <lipe> i would like to know how can i compile files .java and run it ...... please !!
[03:06] <jahid> what is the command to reboot from console?
[03:07] <Balsamic_Chicken> hey guys need help pls, how do u spell deteriate? spell check says i have it wrong, no idea how to correct it
[03:07] <Pici> jahid : reboot
[03:07] <lipe> i would like to know how can i compile files .java and run it ...... please !!
[03:07] <yomm> jahid : shutdown -r now
[03:07] <Pici> !patience | lipe
[03:07] <ubotu> lipe: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:07] <yomm> or reboot :)
[03:08] <Pici> lipe : java <filename.java>
[03:08] <lipe> Pici; sorry
[03:08] <covOPprometheus> can anyone tell me how to downgrade an app? (beryl in this case)
[03:08] <aalhamad> Pici,  when i clean i go just clean or clean apache apache2??
[03:08] <IdleOne> Balsamic_Chicken: deteriorate ?
[03:09] <NaPsTeR> is there any way i can sync my pocket pc with ubuntu?
[03:09] <lipe> Pici:  thx u very much my friend
[03:10] <seravitae> Hi there, I have followed the ubuntu guide for compiling kernels. I have followed it exactly and yet when i go to make kpkg-clean i get the following result: http://pastebin.com/872738 <-- can anyone please tell me how I can fix this?
[03:10] <defrysk> why compile a kernel ?
[03:10] <slacker_nl> why wouldn't you compile your own kernel?
[03:10] <NaPsTeR> does anyone know how 2 sync a ppc with ubuntu
[03:11] <LvanderRee> NaPsTeR have you seen this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30936&highlight=pocketpc
[03:11] <defrysk> cos there is no need ?
[03:11] <slacker_nl> defrysk: if you say so
[03:11] <seravitae> defrysk: because i need to.
[03:11] <LvanderRee> why downgrade beryl?
[03:11] <defrysk> sure
[03:12] <daviey> LvanderRee, because the latest is borked for xgl
[03:12] <IdleOne> !kernel > slacker_nl
[03:12] <slacker_nl> IdleOne: I don't need that
[03:12] <alkko> Why doesn't root password change when i do 'sudo passwd root'? Everything goes well, but the changes doesn't take action.
[03:12] <erUSUL> seravitae: it seems that the 'sources' have an error in one of the directories... maybe a corrupt source tree?
[03:13] <erUSUL> !root | alkko
[03:13] <ubotu> alkko: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:13] <lipe> how can i put colors in vim ?! please ...
[03:13] <IdleOne> slacker_nl: k then
[03:13] <seravitae> erUSUL: well im following the exact ubuntu guide...
[03:13] <daviey> alkko, just do sudo passwd (that'll do root)
[03:13] <slacker_nl> lipe: :color koehler
[03:13] <slacker_nl> :syntax enable
[03:13] <alkko> ok
[03:14] <seravitae> erUSUL: i also found a forum post where someone said they 'removed the offending bit' and it gave another error about main.io or something - if i do a 'make' without the kpkg bit, i get that same main.io result.
[03:14] <seravitae> make[1] : *** No rule to make target `init/main.o', needed by `init/built-in.o'.  Stop.
[03:14] <LvanderRee> daviey, ah I see, I had ones trouble with dbus and beryl, thought maybe that was it, because I knew how to solve that
[03:14] <lipe> slacker_nl: what is it ?? a software !?
[03:15] <slacker_nl> lipe: put those lines in your .vimrc
[03:15] <erUSUL> seravitae: what can isay have you tried with vanilla sources? (the ones in kernel.org) keep in mind that they do not come with as many drivers as the ubuntu sources...
[03:15] <slacker_nl> and start up vim (eg vim bla.php)
[03:15] <lipe> slacker_nl: ohhh thx u very much !!
[03:15] <seravitae> erUSUL: these *are* the kernel sources from apt-get ubuntu repository.
[03:15] <slacker_nl> the color koehler is a color scheme
[03:15] <daviey> LvanderRee, well i'm getting "WARNING **: Beryl caught deadly signal 11"
[03:15] <seravitae> erUSUL: oh, right. okay ill try that.
[03:15] <ConstyXIV> that aint good
[03:15] <slacker_nl> and the syntax enable is for syntax highlighting
[03:16] <Balsamic_Chicken> IdleOne thx
[03:16] <seravitae> wait im confused
[03:16] <pbureau> Question : I am performing ./configure on Gnome-Network-Manager 0.6.4 during the configuration part I get this message, everythign else ends well I am just curious if I am missing something that could be critical ? or just being a worry-wort.? error message "hecking dynamic linker characteristics... cat: /etc/ld.so.conf.d/*.conf: No such file or directory GNU/Linux ld.so" ..
[03:16] <IdleOne> Balsamic_Chicken: was I right>?
[03:16] <seravitae> should i be "making" in linux-headers or linux-source?
[03:16] <lipe> slacker_nl: where is this file, please !?
[03:16] <LvanderRee> daviey, sorry don't know anything about that
[03:16] <Balsamic_Chicken> IdleOne yeah, i jsut didn't think to use spell check correction featur, don't know why
[03:16] <ConstyXIV> pbureau: is there a reason youre trying to compile it?
[03:17] <slacker_nl> lipe, vi ~/.vimrc
[03:17] <slacker_nl> if its not there, create it, otherwise you can just edit it
[03:17] <IdleOne> Balsamic_Chicken: i took a wild guess at it :) glad I could help
[03:17] <pbureau> ConstyXIV, something to do ? since aptget only have 0.6.3
[03:17] <yomm> sera : I think headers...
[03:17] <grndslm> i've got this problem with beryl svn...  i have installed all known dependencies but it still complains about autoconf or more likely some missing library that i overlooked or was left out of the docs??  something about LIBTOOL...anyway, here's my error(s):  http://pastebin.ca/335626
[03:17] <NaPsTeR> how can i synchronise my sony ericsson w800i?
[03:18] <ConstyXIV> pbureau: 0.6.3 works just fine.  this isin't gentoo.  we try to make our software stable. :)
[03:18] <lipe> slacker_nl: thx u very much
[03:18] <slacker_nl> lipe: www.euronet.nl/users/wesleys/ubuntu/.vimrc (that's mine)
[03:18] <yomm> omg gentoo bashing 
[03:18] <KillerT> omg
[03:18] <ConstyXIV> not bashing really
[03:18] <pbureau> ConstyXIV,  wow a linux user that says, dontcompile your own software.... lol intresting...
[03:18] <yomm> t:p
[03:18] <pbureau> ConstyXIV, anyways... wont stop me front trying to
[03:19] <slacker_nl> same as.. don't compile your own kernel ;)
[03:19] <NaPsTeR> i have a sony ericsson w800i(my cellphone) how can i sync it with ubuntu?
[03:19] <Pici> grndslm : you do know that there are beryl svn binary repositories, right?
[03:19] <ConstyXIV> this is a linux user that likes stuff to work oob, unlike windows
[03:19] <bauer77> Anyone using Terminal Server Client and experiencing issue with it getting a "reconnect error message"?
[03:19] <grndslm> Pici:  i always feel that i'm not of help to the devs when i complain about bugs because they're always fixed in the svn and replaced with newer features and different bugs
[03:19] <bauer77> I go to connect and it just hangs
[03:20] <Pici> grndslm : understood
[03:20] <lipe> slacker_nl: ok, but it doesnt't work, only the "~" changed the color not the words ...
[03:20] <ConstyXIV> NaPsTeR: does it run any sort of smartphone os?
[03:20] <NaPsTeR> no
[03:21] <KillerT> There is no reason to compile ur own sources anymore unless u just want to tweak tweak and more tweak it is really not necessary for most common computer hardware. Saying that gentoo is for strong enthusiasts or professional.
[03:21] <NaPsTeR> but it comes with software to sync with windows
[03:21] <defrysk> pbureau, if you insist on a later version, set up de deb sources of feisty, do a apt-get build dep <package> then fakeroot apt-source -b <package>
[03:21] <seravitae> erUSUL: heheh. i accidently ln -s linux-headers to linux. my bad :P changed it to linux sources.
[03:21] <AlivesWrk> how do i see a list of the packages currently installed?
[03:21] <NaPsTeR> so now i need to sync with linux but dont know how
[03:22] <aalhamad> how to start apache2 .. whats the command line??
[03:22] <ConstyXIV> NaPsTeR: what's the phones software on windows?
[03:22] <erUSUL> seravitae: ;)
[03:22] <AlivesWrk> aalhamad: apachectl start
[03:22] <ConstyXIV> aalhamad: /etc/init.d/apache start
[03:22] <AlivesWrk> that too
[03:22] <yomm> Napster have u checked their webbie for linux drivers ?
[03:22] <AngryElf_> is apt-get capable of reverting to an older version of something easily?
[03:22] <NaPsTeR> its some sonyericsson software
[03:22] <grndslm> AlivesWrk:  dpkg -l
[03:22] <erUSUL> seravitae: this time the bug was between the chair and the monitor ;)
[03:23] <yomm> although i doubt that there will be linux drivers ...
[03:23] <AlivesWrk> thx
[03:23] <seravitae> hehe yeah, PEBCAK.
[03:23] <ConstyXIV> NaPsTeR: given we're talking about sony here, you're probably SOL.
[03:23] <seravitae> the guide wasn't too clear on that bit.
[03:23] <pbureau> uncle, I realize now I should of never mentioned "compiling" in this channel.....
[03:23] <NaPsTeR> SOL.?
[03:23] <pbureau> <goes and looks for programing channel
[03:23] <Pici> grndslm : Okay, this is a reach, but if you have installed libtool, try setting the env variable LIBTOOL to its location
[03:23] <ConstyXIV> NaPsTeR: sore out of luck
[03:23] <NaPsTeR> that sux
[03:23] <defrysk> pbureau, I gave you a howto ;)
[03:23] <ConstyXIV> NaPsTeR: you could set up windows in vmware and do it like that...
[03:24] <NaPsTeR> i dont want any trace oif windows
[03:24] <yomm> isn't is possible to sync devices like ipod & cellphone through vmare -windows
[03:24] <NaPsTeR> i hate it
[03:24] <pbureau> defrysk,  yeah I installed feisty that thing is more buggy than windows ME
[03:24] <ConstyXIV> yomm: yes
[03:24] <yomm> isn't is possible to sync devices like ipod & cellphone through vmware running windows ?
[03:24] <yomm> sry 4 rep
[03:24] <defrysk> pbureau, yI told you how to compile a package from feisty for your version
[03:24] <yomm> napster : heard that ?
[03:24] <ConstyXIV> i would have to for my phone if i didnt have a windows box around (samsung i500 palm)
[03:25] <pbureau> defrysk, working on it ;)
[03:25] <NaPsTeR> wat?
[03:25] <NaPsTeR> the vmware thing
[03:25] <NaPsTeR> ?
[03:25] <grndslm> Pici:  i didn't have libtool installed...doh!
[03:25] <grndslm> it's working fine now
[03:25] <yomm> about syncing devices on vmware
[03:25] <yomm> yes
[03:25] <ConstyXIV> NaPsTeR: what vmware does is it installs windows or another os in a sandbox, but it can still talk to things like your cell phone
[03:26] <skar> hi, when i copy a URL using Ctrl+C and using Shift+Insert in gedit, i get a different data(which was selected using mouse), if i use mouse right click+paste, i get the url
[03:26] <grndslm> Pici:  so any time i get an error like that...that's prolly the missing library?
[03:26] <NaPsTeR> i know
[03:26] <skar> how do i solve this clip board confusion!?!
[03:26] <ConstyXIV> NaPsTeR: or you could write your own drivers :)
[03:26] <Pici> grndslm : Usually, yes.
[03:26] <NaPsTeR> but i dont want windws at all
[03:26] <kittyhawk> hello
[03:26] <[H4z3] > w00t... finally
[03:26] <NaPsTeR> would wine work
[03:26] <NaPsTeR> haha
[03:26] <NaPsTeR> i can bearly do graphics in java
[03:26] <ConstyXIV> NaPsTeR: i dont think so, but you could try
[03:26] <NaPsTeR> i barely know any programming
[03:27] <kittyhawk> my wireless network card doesn't work with the latest kernel that apt installed for me
[03:27] <kittyhawk> so I've been booting into the 2.6.15
[03:27] <dyrne> NaPsTeR: run osx then in vmware :)
[03:28] <kittyhawk> but now I'm trying to install the nvidia drivers, and I can't figure out how to install the kernel-source for the version I'm runnin
[03:28] <kittyhawk> can anyone help?
[03:28] <skar> no one knows about this clip board confusion where in the data i copied isn't pasted while a previously copied stuff is pasted?
[03:28] <ConstyXIV> NaPsTeR: does it show up as a flash drive or anything when you plug it in?
[03:28] <ConstyXIV> NaPsTeR: or better, does it have some sort of media slot?
[03:28] <NaPsTeR> i dunno where to get a copy of osx
[03:28] <skar> and no data at all is pasted at times
[03:28] <NaPsTeR> it has a memory card slot
[03:28] <NaPsTeR> y?
[03:28] <ConstyXIV> NaPsTeR: try dumping your music on it's memory card
[03:29] <[Wiebel] > if mplayer (or whatever movie player) shows lines on video with high speed imaging. Is this a driver issue?
[03:29] <[Wiebel] > using -vo xv
[03:29] <mike1o> !service
[03:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about service - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:29] <NaPsTeR> i can do that
[03:29] <NaPsTeR> already done it many times
[03:30] <[Wiebel] > same with -vo gl
[03:30] <ConstyXIV> NaPsTeR: do you have some sort of pc memorystick adapter?
[03:30] <ConstyXIV> [Wiebel] : have you tried every movie player you have?
[03:30] <ConstyXIV> NaPsTeR: that's your best route
[03:30] <ConstyXIV> NaPsTeR: you can use banshee to put music on flash disks like that
[03:30] <[Wiebel] > ConstyXIV: well I tried a few yes
[03:30] <[Wiebel] > same issue
[03:31] <[Wiebel] > video output doesnt seem to matter
[03:31] <[Wiebel] > x11/xv/gl
[03:31] <[Wiebel] > same lines
[03:31] <ConstyXIV> [Wiebel] : can you try the same on windows, or with different hardware?
[03:31] <NaPsTeR> but i just plugged in my phone and then i copied the music to the removable drive
[03:31] <NaPsTeR> it worked
[03:31] <[Wiebel] > different hardware is better
[03:31] <NaPsTeR> so it picks it up
[03:31] <[Wiebel] > it a p3 laptop with a s3 savage card
[03:32] <[Wiebel] > it's
[03:32] <ConstyXIV> NaPsTeR: try this: find the Text Editor
[03:32] <NaPsTeR> does that mean i can just use multisync or summing like that?
[03:32] <[Wiebel] > and I have no windows
[03:32] <NaPsTeR> k
[03:32] <NaPsTeR> then?
[03:32] <ConstyXIV> NaPsTeR: or better, follow this http://banshee-project.org/Guide/DAPs/MassStorageDevices
[03:32] <NaPsTeR> but i dont want to put music on
[03:33] <dude_1939> Hey guys, Where can I get information about the next release of Ubuntu?
[03:33] <ConstyXIV> NaPsTeR: oh
[03:33] <dmitri> hy i am trying to  mount -t vfat /media/windows/ /dev/hda5 and i get this error: mount: /media/windows/ is not a block device
[03:33] <NaPsTeR> i want to sync my numbers and stuff
[03:33] <ConstyXIV> i think you are sol then
[03:33] <IdleOne> dude_1939: www.ubuntu.com
[03:33] <Jowi> dmitri, but /dev before /media
[03:33] <^Wildstar^> dmitri: you have to try with the /dev device
[03:33] <dmitri> how?
[03:33] <dyrne> dude_1939: you can also /join ubuntu+1
[03:34] <^Wildstar^> do an ls /dev
[03:34] <Pici> dmitri : reverse the arguments
[03:34] <Jowi> dmitri, mount -t vfat /dev/hda5 /media/windows
[03:34] <NaPsTeR> so
[03:34] <ConstyXIV> dmitri: what Jowi said
[03:34] <NaPsTeR> wat do i do?
[03:34] <mr__> ligamagic
[03:34] <ConstyXIV> NaPsTeR: not much
[03:34] <NaPsTeR> y?
[03:34] <dmitri> then i get this error mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda5,
[03:34] <yomm> anyone know what the command for the "Thunar Bulk Renamer" is ??
[03:34] <yomm> so I can sudo it :)
[03:34] <dmitri> Jowi:
[03:35] <Pici> dmitri : what fs type is /dev/hda5 ?
[03:35] <NaPsTeR> how can i sync it?
[03:35] <dmitri> win32
[03:35] <Jowi> yomm, "thunar -B"
[03:35] <Pici> dmitri : Thats OS, not the FS
[03:35] <yomm> u da man Jowi :)
[03:35] <Pici> dmitri : is it fat32, fat16, ntfs?
[03:35] <dmitri> hidden w95 fat32
[03:35] <kittyhawk> hello
[03:35] <White_Lightning> how do I change the splash screen background color? the brown clashes with the blue and black backgrounds I use
[03:36] <IdleOne> NaPsTeR: have you tried checking out the phones website and see if the have a linuc version of that sync software?
[03:36] <IdleOne> linux8
[03:36] <IdleOne> ERR
[03:36] <dmitri> Pici escuse me fat32
[03:36] <Jowi> !splash | White_Lightning
[03:36] <ubotu> White_Lightning: To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[03:36] <White_Lightning> why thank you mr. bot, but I've already done that
[03:37] <White_Lightning> I want to change the backcolor
[03:37] <White_Lightning> lol
[03:37] <ConstyXIV> NaPsTeR: http://stefans.datenbruch.de/k750i/
[03:37] <ConstyXIV> NaPsTeR: try that
[03:37] <White_Lightning> !ubot ubot
[03:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubot ubot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:37] <Pici> dmitri : is it possible that theres a problem with the drive?
[03:37] <Jowi> White_Lightning, it is an image. you can't change just the background color
[03:37] <White_Lightning> he's having an identity crisis
[03:37] <White_Lightning> yeah that's what I figured
[03:37] <White_Lightning> if I created a full size image it would cover it up though correct?
[03:38] <IdleOne> White_Lightning: ubotu knows about ubotu  but not about ubot try /msg ubotu bot
[03:38] <dmitri> Pici what problem?
[03:38] <White_Lightning> oh I misspelled it
[03:38] <White_Lightning> !ubotu
[03:38] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:39] <yomm>  ubotu is our friend !
[03:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is our friend ! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:39] <morgWork> anyone know offhand how to get evolution to handle attachements sanely (i.e. use OOo to open doc files, rather than just the save option). Nautilus opens the files with the correct app. (full disclosure: I'm running kubuntu)
[03:39] <White_Lightning> lol
[03:39] <White_Lightning> ubotu likes pizza
[03:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about likes pizza - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:39] <White_Lightning> woah maybe not
[03:40] <IdleOne> !botabuse
[03:40] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[03:40] <White_Lightning> !bcm43xx
[03:40] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:41] <yomm> uiopuiop
[03:41] <kittyhawk> greetings
[03:42] <kittyhawk> I'm having a heck of a time getting the nvidia drivers to load.  Can anyone help?
[03:42] <xpoint> how do i dist upgrade from horay to later ubuntu dist ?
[03:42] <ConstyXIV> is there anyway to keep nautilus from popping up when I put in a flashdrive?
[03:43] <Pici> dmitri : a bad superblock indicates that theres an issue reading from the drive.  You can try running dosfsck to find/fix errors, but in my experience this sometimes leads to futher corrupting the data
[03:43] <Pici> !upgrade | xpoint
[03:43] <ubotu> xpoint: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:43] <Innoruuk> Consty: Edit Preferences -> Removable Drives and Media
[03:43] <ConstyXIV> xpoint: sudo (text editor here) /etc/apt/sources.list, change hoary to dapper or edgy or whatever, then sudo apt-get update, sudo aptitude upgrade
[03:44] <Jowi> ConstyXIV, not to recommend.
[03:44] <Innoruuk> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-updates/main/source/Sources.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[03:44] <Innoruuk> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-proposed/universe/source/Sources.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[03:44] <Innoruuk> Anyone else getting these on apt-get update?
[03:45] <Jowi> ConstyXIV, hoary upgrades fine to breezy but not directly to later versions. too many probs :)
[03:45] <ConstyXIV> Innoruuk: just fine here
[03:45] <dmitri> Pici it doesn't maeter i just formated that drive
[03:46] <Innoruuk> My sources.list seems just fine, don't know a fix for that if any.
[03:46] <ConstyXIV> Innoruuk: id make sure it says edgy instead of egdy-proposed
[03:47] <_raphael_> will edgy ever have the nvidia 1.0-9xxx drivers?
[03:47] <Pici> dmitri : try sudo dosfsck /dev/devicename -a    This will automatically attempt to fix any issues with the drive, you can then try to mount it
[03:47] <Innoruuk> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-proposed universe main multiverse restricted
[03:47] <IdleOne> xpoint: it is not recommended to leap frog release when upgrading from apt
[03:47] <Innoruuk> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates universe main multiverse restricted
[03:48] <Innoruuk> That's what's giving me errors.
[03:48] <ConstyXIV> _raphael_: ubuntu tends to stay pretty solid on software versions between releases
[03:48] <ConstyXIV> _raphael_: in other words, wait till feisty
[03:49] <n2diy> ! DCOP
[03:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about DCOP - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:49] <dmitri> Pici I get this Currently, only 1 or 2 FATs are supported, not 21.
[03:49] <dmitri> :(
[03:49] <ConstyXIV> !dbus
[03:49] <ubotu> dbus: simple interprocess messaging system. In component main, is optional. Version 0.93-0ubuntu3.1 (edgy), package size 312 kB, installed size 660 kB
[03:49] <ConstyXIV> !dcop
[03:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dcop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:49] <ConstyXIV> ?
[03:49] <MisticMcil> Can someone help me with an ATI card install?
[03:50] <IdleOne> !ati | MisticMcil
[03:50] <ubotu> MisticMcil: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:50] <Pici> dmitri : try just fsck -a /dev/devicename
[03:50] <MisticMcil> I done it by the ATI wiki, but it never loads the driver.
[03:50] <chinmy> d
[03:50] <chinmy> halo
[03:50] <IdleOne> hello chinmy
[03:51] <dyrne> MisticMcil: with that youll probably have more luck searching ubuntuforums.org for your card. usually step by step instructions
[03:51] <chinmy> my first time use ubuntu
[03:51] <IdleOne> welcome chinmy
[03:51] <ConstyXIV> would anyone know if MSO2007 works on wine?
[03:51] <dyrne> MisticMcil: i have no exp with ati myself
[03:51] <dmitri> Pici not working:( e2fsck: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/hda5
[03:51] <chinmy> :)
[03:51] <grndslm>  This is my problem..."The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[03:51] <grndslm> libgnomevfs2-dev: Depends: libgnomevfs2-0 (= 2.16.1-0ubuntu4) but 2.16.1-0ubuntu6 is installed."
[03:51] <MisticMcil> ATI sucks balls.
[03:51] <Pici> ConstyXIV : check in the wine appsdb if you havent already
[03:51] <grndslm> I don't think you can fix broken packages, right?  maybe downgrade to libgnomevfs2.16.1-0ubuntu4...is that possible??
[03:51] <MisticMcil> I wish they would just die already.
[03:52] <IdleOne> !language | MisticMcil
[03:52] <ubotu> MisticMcil: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:52] <dmitri> PIci should i try to reformat that partition? I have no data on it
[03:52] <MisticMcil> Hey! I was just speaking the truth.
[03:52] <ConstyXIV> MisticMcil: seconded, but AMD bought them out, and we don't want a one-party x86 market
[03:52] <IdleOne> MisticMcil: the truth does not need to be vulgar
[03:52] <M3G4crux> hi to all
[03:52] <IdleOne> hey M3G4crux
[03:53] <JeffHeard> anybody know why the default ubuntu kernel wouldn't recognize a Core 2 Duo as having 2 cores?  This is a Dell M90 laptop
[03:54] <dyrne> !smp| JeffHeard
[03:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:54] <padlefot> in this very moment, when I got anti aliasing working with amsn, Linux is superior to Windows in all my needs
[03:54] <dyrne> good god ubotu
[03:54] <padlefot> congrats
[03:54] <MisticMcil> Holy... crud...
[03:54] <MisticMcil> The ATI wiki had one part wrong... one...
[03:54] <zyth> padlefot, yeah, amsn is much nicer with antialiasing :)
[03:55] <JeffHeard> thanks.  I confirmed the kernel is an SMP kernel...
[03:55] <dude_1939> Has anyone gotten 5.1 Surround to work in Ubuntu?
[03:55] <Innoruuk> Consty: The error I got with apt-get, changed http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu to http://pr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu and it fixed the problem.
[03:55] <padlefot> zyth: it reeally made my desktop :-)
[03:55] <MisticMcil> BRB.
[03:55] <ConstyXIV> does gnome have font smoothing?
[03:55] <JeffHeard> been using Linux since 1997, and this is the first time I've ever had it not catch SMP
[03:55] <Pici> MisticMcil : perhaps you should register for the wiki and correct it
[03:55] <zyth> ConstyXIV, yes
[03:55] <Innoruuk> Yes, my fonts are smoothie good ;p
[03:55] <zyth> ConstyXIV, System -> Preferences -> Font
[03:56] <ConstyXIV> strawberry font smoothies taste good
[03:56] <Lice> http://www.nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=73882 Anyone know what could be wrong?
[03:56] <mab> hey can anyone tell me how to setup a network drive on ubuntu so that it is able to connect to a windows server
[03:56] <SentineLxx> Has anyone used "BigDesktop"?
[03:56] <padlefot> zyth: I also installed macfonts for my system, really made a difference to
[03:56] <ConstyXIV> zyth: thanks
[03:56] <yomm> any1 know of some nice eye candy for ubuntu ?
[03:56] <alexandre> bonjour
[03:56] <zyth> padlefot, macfonts? I have the MS fonts.  Not sure about any mac fonts
[03:56] <IdleOne> !eyecandy > yomm
[03:56] <zyth> yomm, Beryl
[03:56] <zyth> lol
[03:56] <dude_1939> !eyecandy
[03:56] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[03:56] <Pici> !eyecandy > pici
[03:57] <itchyworm> yomm: check out www.gnome-look.org ;-)
[03:57] <yomm> beryl is already up&running mate :)
[03:57] <jon_> when i try to install programs through terminal it says that 2 folders are locked and asks if i am root(which im not). what happened? i could install like this before
[03:57] <ConstyXIV> segoe ui makes my win2k box much easier to stand, now i just have to figure out how to install fonts in linux
[03:57] <BaB00> hello
[03:57] <yomm> so is kiba & rxvt
[03:57] <Pici> jon_ : are you running the install commands with sudo?
[03:57] <mab> hey can anyone tell me how to setup a network drive on ubuntu so that it is able to connect to a windows server
[03:57] <yomm> IdleOne : thx
[03:57] <jon_> Pici : yes
[03:57] <dyrne> jon_: what kind of file are you using to install?
[03:58] <jon_> dyrne: the gmail checker
[03:58] <M3G4crux> how can re-activate the notification icon in the notifications area
[03:58] <_raphael_> is there a reliable repo with the newest nvidia drivers for edgy?
[03:58] <jon_> normally it asks me for pass but its not doing that
[03:58] <M3G4crux> this notification area is for updating the packages
[03:58] <mab> ok this is no help
[03:58] <padlefot> zyth; yep, I use beryl.. the macfonts i think you can find at kde-look.org or just msg me, they're really nice. LucidiaGrance, and LucidiaConsole if i dremember correctly, + a few more
[03:58] <zyth> hm cool
[03:58] <padlefot> beryl and emerald with VistaQ ;)
[03:58] <itchyworm> M3G4crux: that's update-notifier
[03:59] <M3G4crux> ok, so I launch if from console and it loads in the notifications area?
[03:59] <SentineLxx> Has anyone used "BigDesktop"?
[03:59] <SentineLxx> or can anyone help with dual desktop?
[04:00] <riotkittie> M3G4crux: right click, add to panel
[04:00] <M3G4crux> dang I didnt even have it installed :)
[04:00] <padlefot> SentineLxx: in what way? dualscreen ?
[04:00] <padlefot> or two seperate desktops ?
[04:00] <K1GPL> i cannot get ssh port forwarding tow ork with x11vnc.  it says bind:address already in use.  i have tried running sshd on both ends with the -4 option, but to no avail.
[04:01] <ismail> hi all
[04:01] <padlefot> I found a nice config for TV-out with nvidia, if you rewrite it i guess you can use it as a dualscreen config
[04:01] <ismail> what packages do i need to install to alow me to compile programs
[04:01] <Orochimaru> Hi
[04:01] <ConstyXIV> How do you go about installing fonts?
[04:01] <riotkittie> ismail: build-essential
[04:01] <suzi> does anyone know of a good torrent downloader for ubuntu 5.10
[04:01] <padlefot> ConstyXIV; gnome?
[04:02] <ismail> in synaptic?
[04:02] <mostkalm> hi folks
[04:02] <ConstyXIV> padlefot: yup
[04:02] <riotkittie> ismail: yea
[04:02] <ConstyXIV> suzi: either azureus or mldonkey
[04:02] <SentineLxx> padlefot, well at the moment, I have 2 monitors running different resolutions and they are cloning each other
[04:02] <SentineLxx> I want them to extend the desktop accross
[04:02] <Pici> I should bind a command to just say build-essential
[04:02] <SentineLxx> It works on the log-in screen, but when I log-in, it goes back to clone :|
[04:02] <Lice> http://www.nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=73882 i'm tryin to install a graphic accelerator but i get this error!
[04:03] <padlefot> SentineLxx: my config will get you two different Desktops, that works independently of eachother.. but i can be ha hassle
[04:03] <mostkalm> has someone got fn hotkeys working for toshiba satellite with Phoenix bios>
[04:03] <ConstyXIV> SentineLxx: all i know is that gnome is not very friendly to win monitors
[04:03] <ConstyXIV> SentineLxx: TWIN monitors
[04:03] <Pici> Lice : sounds like you need to install the kernel headers for your kernel
[04:03] <dude_1939> !sound
[04:03] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:04] <SentineLxx> padlefot, I've used the guide on ubuntuforums, and that has enabled to me to use get TWIN monitors on log-in but not for gnome itself :|
[04:04] <suzi> how do i install kget
[04:04] <SentineLxx> ConstyXIV, How come?
[04:04] <lavid> this might be better suited for the forums, but i'll give it a shot here: My laptop has both onboard and external video (intel GMA and nvidia go 7400) which i can switch between by toggling a switch upon booting up. If I install the nvidia drivers (proprietary) I can't get opengl hardware acceleration when I use the intel card. I make sure I get a display by running a script to switch between 2 xorg.conf files, but what commands s
[04:04] <ConstyXIV> suzi: sudo apt-get install kget
[04:04] <Lice> Pici: I'm new to this so how to do?
[04:05] <eet_zzzzzzzzzz> can anyone recommend a good linux/ubuntu/debian server admin book?
[04:05] <ConstyXIV> SentineLxx: really not sure, just what ive heard, not to mention that everyone i know with twin monitors use either kde or xfce
[04:05] <mostkalm> fnfx for toshiba with Phoenix BIOS???
[04:05] <dude_1939> eet_zzzzzzzzzzzz:  I'd to know of a good one too
[04:06] <Pici> Lice : sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[04:06] <suzi> doesnt work it sez i need  kdelibs4c2 (>= 4:3.4.3) but it is not going to be installed
[04:06] <suzi> E: Broken packages
[04:06] <theking> ubuntu can work on vmware?
[04:06] <itchyworm> yup :-)
[04:07] <Xif> th1__: hi
[04:07] <theking> and the latest version is 6.10 correct?
[04:07] <jon_> theking: i believe so
[04:07] <itchyworm> latest stable yes
[04:07] <ConstyXIV> theking: yes and yes
[04:07] <itchyworm> !ping
[04:07] <ubotu> pong
[04:07] <jon_> marko
[04:07] <Lice> Pici: its already the latest version..
[04:07] <Lice> :s
[04:08] <Pici> hm
[04:08] <IdleOne> how do I install a gdm theme?
[04:08] <ShankarGanesh> wats ur favourite theme
[04:08] <ShankarGanesh> on linux
[04:08] <IdleOne> how do I install a gdm theme? what file am I supposed to select after extracting?
[04:08] <Lice> I would really appreciate some help
[04:09] <dyrne> IdleOne: gksudo gdmsetup
[04:09] <yomm> theking : even better vmware is free ( server :) )
[04:09] <seravitae> Yay.
[04:09] <seravitae> just spent an hour recompiling my kernel and i got a kernel panic.
[04:09] <Kud|> IdleOne: You usually don't extract the theme from the tarball most of the time.
[04:09] <Pici> Lice : sorry, doing some research for you
[04:09] <ShankarGanesh> @lice Just download the file in your /home  > System > Administration > Login window > Add ;)
[04:09] <ShankarGanesh> Then tick the gdm them
[04:10] <Pici> Lice : Did you quit out of X before you tried to install the drivers?
[04:10] <ConstyXIV> does anyone have a favorite terminal (monospace) font that's nice to look at?
[04:10] <kurumin> huau
[04:10] <Lice> Pici: quit out of what?
[04:10] <kurumin> so gringo
[04:10] <Pici> Lice : XWindows
[04:11] <BaB00> guys i have a question ? where do i get snmpwalk and snmpget ?
[04:11] <Lice> Hmm i used the terminal to install :s
[04:11] <ConstyXIV> BaB00: use apt-cache search <stuffings> and see if you can find it
[04:11] <Pici> BaB00 : tinysnmp-tools I believe
[04:11] <ismail> question guys
[04:11] <BaB00> thx
[04:12] <ismail> how come when i type ./configure i get no such file in directory
[04:12] <Pici> Lice : you need to go to a tty (ctrl-alt-f1), login, do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop then install the drivers, then reboot
[04:12] <Lice> okey
[04:12] <LinTux> How can I identify the exact make of my PCI-E card
[04:13] <itchyworm> ismail: the "./configure" file is looking for something. check what it is by looking inside "./configure"
[04:14] <itchyworm> LinTux: two ways: check the board itself or maybe do a "lspci"
[04:14] <LinTux> itchyworm: Cheers buddy
[04:15] <Lice> Pici: i just came to a black screen and when i wrote something nothing happend :P
[04:15] <Lice> and i rebooted
[04:15] <dyrne> anyone here inputting asian charaters in ubuntu? i need to be able to practice trad chinese and not sure of best way to input
[04:16] <ConstyXIV> where does ubuntu keep fonts?
[04:16] <BaB00> @pici: do u know how can i install it and where from ? (sry i am kind`of a noob)
[04:16] <ConstyXIV> !fonts
[04:16] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[04:16] <benjr> can i format a new ubs flash drive for fat32 in ubuntu?
[04:16] <Pici> BaB00 : sudo apt-get install <packagename>
[04:17] <Xif> Any good CLI mp3 player?
[04:17] <BaB00> thx i`ll try it
[04:17] <Pici> Lice : /etc/init.d/gdm stop will kill your GUI session, thats what the black screen was
[04:17] <itchyworm> Lice: using black characters on black background ? :-)
[04:17] <Xif> preferably something that's easily scriptable.
[04:17] <ismail> k im trying to compile a program
[04:17] <ismail> i extracted it
[04:17] <ismail> and i read the readme files
[04:17] <Lice> well how to enter the terminal from there pici?
[04:17] <Lice> and execute a program?
[04:17] <ismail> once i go to cd file
[04:18] <ismail> i should do ./configure
[04:18] <bulmer> Lice pici?
[04:18] <ismail> but it doesnt work
[04:18] <riotkittie> i like mpg123 but
[04:18] <riotkittie> brb
[04:18] <ismail> always get file not found
[04:18] <bulmer> ismail what errors you get if any?
[04:18] <Lice> Pici is a guy bulmer :P
[04:18] <Pici> Lice : ctrl-alt-f1 to get to a tty session
[04:18] <ismail> file not found in directory
[04:18] <bulmer> oh
[04:18] <Pici> <- Pici
[04:18] <ismail> em i missing something?
[04:18] <dyrne> Xif: like with an ncurses front? irmp3-ncurses maybe. i just use mplayer
[04:18] <seravitae> FKING great. just spent an hour recompiling my kernel for nothing but a kernel panic.
[04:19] <seravitae> this is really starting to make me angry.
[04:19] <bulmer> ismail you dont have the files needed
[04:19] <Toma-> seravitae: did you make oldconfig?
[04:19] <ismail> ok how do i get them?
[04:19] <patrick_> !ntfa
[04:19] <seravitae> Toma- i imported my old config.
[04:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:19] <patrick_> !ntfs
[04:19] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:19] <seravitae> i followed ubuntu guide to compiling kernels
[04:19] <benjr> can i format a usb flash drive as fat32 with ubuntu?
[04:19] <bulmer> ismail what did you do so far? i came in late when you told your issues
[04:20] <Toma-> seravitae: ahh ok. (ps. watch the language).... whats panicing?
[04:20] <Setomidor> I _really_ need some help :\ Been googling for the last 2 hours trying to figure this: I've made a java program using avetanaBT, which is a bluetooth stack implementation in java / c. I can run it successfully from two other ubunto boxes from the same actual files (mounted), so I know the code is correct. I get the error message "Could not find own library libavetanaBT.so" on this particular machine, but as I said, it works beautifully on all other mac
[04:20] <ismail> ok i downloaded gnome bt remoto
[04:20] <seravitae> Toma-:  it doesn't say. i couldn't see in it what was causing it.
[04:20] <ismail> extracted the file to home directory
[04:20] <Toma-> ahh ok
[04:20] <seravitae> i didn't feel like writing a whole screen of garbage down either
[04:20] <Setomidor> be right back in 20 minutes
[04:20] <ismail> went in the terminal
[04:20] <Lice> Pici: can't find info on how to install it from tty...
[04:20] <ismail> typed cd foldername
[04:20] <ismail> then typed ./config
[04:21] <aciddrops> hi
[04:21] <bulmer> ismail  cd foldername or cd to your home?
[04:21] <ismail> ./configure rather
[04:21] <Pici> Lice : its a graphical installation?
[04:21] <ismail> and i get the problem
[04:21] <Lice> nope
[04:21] <ismail> no
[04:21] <ismail> cd foldername
[04:21] <Toma-> can you see what loads before the panic?
[04:21] <K3rl0u4rn> hi people, I use qemu and have a message so I have to resize /dev/shm... where is this configured ?
[04:21] <bulmer> ismail is there a Makefile on that directory( not foldername in linux lingua)
[04:21] <aciddrops> where do i go in the options to make alt right click stop what it is doing?
[04:21] <Lice> should i just write /home/em/Desktop/dripkg/install.sh ?
[04:22] <ConstyXIV> how do you change the fonts for the panels?
[04:22] <bulmer> K3rl0u4rn: maybe look into sysctl
[04:22] <Pici> Lice : well, yes as sudo
[04:22] <Lice> I get to a whole black screen with a white ticking _
[04:22] <ismail> bulmer: yeah there is makefile.am and there is configure.in
[04:22] <Kristov> hi
[04:23] <Lice> there is no thing indicating in which folder i am in
[04:23] <K3rl0u4rn> bulmer: how do I look into sysctl ?
[04:23] <bulmer> K3rl0u4rn: hang on, let me boot my system
[04:24] <ismail> i'll do the same
[04:24] <dyrne> Lice: pwd
[04:24] <bulmer> ismail it seems you're missing the auto-tools to complete a makefile.in and configure.in into a configure file
[04:24] <Pici> Lice : login.  Then cd Desktop/dripkg/ , then sudo ./install.sh
[04:24] <philc_> how can i get a quick summary from the CLI of what processor arch and speed my system is using?
[04:25] <SoulChild> HEY, please someone tell me which folders need to be in /var/log/   i deleted them,... :(
[04:25] <aciddrops> isnt it funny how these windowmanager thingys have all kinds of shortcuts that mess with your programs?
[04:25] <dyrne> philc_: cat /proc/cpuinfo and meminfo or whatever
[04:25] <bulmer> K3rl0u4rn: did you man sysctl yet?
[04:25] <Lice> okey
[04:25] <K3rl0u4rn> nop
[04:25] <philc_> dyrne: thanks!
[04:25] <bulmer> please do
[04:25] <SoulChild> can someone please look in /var/log folders... and write down the names of folders in there...
[04:26] <Lice> what were the command to stop the grahpics?
[04:26] <ghatak> Okay got it :)
[04:26] <K3rl0u4rn> bulmer: ok thank you
[04:26] <bulmer> SoulChild:  one of them is /var/log
[04:26] <ghatak> no need to ask the question
[04:26] <ghatak> :P
[04:26] <Pici> Lice : sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[04:26] <bulmer> SoulChild:  one of them is /var/log/messages
[04:26] <SoulChild> bulmer.... very helpful
[04:26] <SoulChild> bulmer: thanks #
[04:26] <SoulChild> bulmer: which else
[04:26] <bulmer> SoulChild: dont be pissy on me, you need help?
[04:27] <ismail> back
[04:27] <bulmer> i just lost interest
[04:27] <SoulChild> bulmer sorry i thought u were kidding on me
[04:27] <ismail> so bulmer any suggestion?
[04:27] <bulmer> ismail it seems you're missing the auto-tools to complete a makefile.in and configure.in into a configure file
[04:28] <bulmer> ismail: umm usually if you have the development package installed, auto tools is included
[04:28] <Scarpitch> hey all! Im new to ubuntu and Linux, but I've allways wanted to drop windows dead. Now is the time! Downloading atm.. but I have a question about gaming? Is it possible/easy to play like: steam (cs etc) and wow?
[04:28] <ismail> i just installed build essentials
[04:28] <ismail> is there something else i need
[04:29] <riotkittie> Scarpitch: some games are playable via WINE or Cedega
[04:29] <bulmer> ismail is there a Makefile ?
[04:29] <ismail> make file where?
[04:29] <dyrne> Scarpitch: some work well using cedega or wine. there are many native linux games also like all the ID games tremulous enemy territory etc
[04:29] <ismail> in the directory of the program?
[04:29] <ismail> yes
[04:29] <riotkittie> i'm so not a gamer so i cant really give you info but we do have a lot of them so someone should speak up
[04:29] <bulmer> ismail you need to prefix your responses with my nick, or i may miss your responses
[04:29] <Scarpitch> riotkittie: thanx! Cedega and/or wine, is it emulators?
[04:30] <Scarpitch> riotkittie: hehe :) kk
[04:30] <riotkittie> no. Wine is Not an Emulator... :P      its uh. it err. uhh. err. it. uhm.
[04:30] <bulmer> ismail once you run configure, you then run  make
[04:30] <Scarpitch> haha
yes there is in the directory of the program im trying to compile
[04:30] <K3rl0u4rn> bulmer: ok, found 3 keys that may help :
[04:30] <K3rl0u4rn> kernel.shmmni = 4096
[04:30] <K3rl0u4rn> kernel.shmall = 2097152
[04:30] <K3rl0u4rn> kernel.shmmax = 33554432
[04:31] <riotkittie> Wine makes the API layer calls or ... something like that.
[04:31] <dcarros> I am having a problem recording. Playback works fine. I am using soundr ecorder 2.14.2. Strangly I have no "Record from input:" options. Anyone have any ideas?
[04:31] <riotkittie> eh. im sorry, im clueless :P
 the problem is i cant run configure
[04:31] <K3rl0u4rn> is it this sysctl something similar to windows registry ??
[04:31] <riotkittie> !wine
[04:31] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:31] <bulmer> K3rl0u4rn: i think there is a file that has all these kernel parameters where you can set them permanently
[04:31] <Scarpitch> riotkittie: hmm.. i'll work it out! ;) thnx
[04:31] <Scarpitch> ubotu: Thanx!
[04:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Thanx! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:31] <bulmer> ismail: maybe skip it, and run make now..see if it compiles things
[04:32] <ismail> ok
[04:32] <dyrne> Scarpitch: much better off using native games wow will work well with cedega but others can be frustrating
[04:32] <K3rl0u4rn> bulmer: there is sysctl.conf that is almost empty (those should be default values I think)
[04:32] <LinTux> I am trying to install a Nvidia driver and it tell me that xserver is running and to stop it before running the driver, how do I stop xserver running?
[04:32] <bulmer> K3rl0u4rn: then thats the file you set your parameters, just like the output you provided earlier  kernel.shm=xxxx
[04:33] <Pici> LinTux : from a tty prompt sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[04:33] <dyrne> LinTux: then restart or start
[04:33] <Lice> gahh got same error :/
[04:34] <theking> anyone tried vista?
[04:34] <bulmer> K3rl0u4rn: and i believe they are under /proc/sys/kernel  just follow the directory structure after the /proc/sys
 i get error...No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop
[04:34] <bulmer> ismail: ls -la your current directory and see if there is really a configure and a Makefile in that dir
[04:35] <bulmer> ismail it seems you are in a different dir to get those errors
[04:35] <ismail> nop
[04:35] <ismail> im in the right directory
[04:35] <ismail> :(
[04:35] <dyrne> theking: youre welcome to join ubuntu-offtopic you might get some response there
[04:36] <bulmer> ismail you need to prefix your responses with my nick, or i may miss your responses
[04:36] <secureboot_> what program figures out what program opens what extension?
sorry
[04:36] <theking> ok
[04:36] <SoulChild> Hey can someone do me the favour and look in /var/log/ i need the folder names, cause i deleted them :(
[04:36] <bulmer> secureboot_: in linux its not dependent on file extension names
[04:36] <railk> secureboot_: linux doesn't use extensions like windows, it bases the choice mainly on mime-types
[04:37] <jair> guys, i restart the machine, create the password again, restart network, and still getting the freaking message " XOpenDisplay failed. No -display Display when i try to start x11vnc
[04:37] <secureboot_> railk: sure - but what looks at mime-types, and figures out what program to use?
[04:37] <slyfox> What is the command by which I can find out my current ip address ?
[04:37] <jair> it was working five minutes ago perfectly
[04:37] <secureboot_> railk: i don't see specific programs mentioned in mime-types, do i?
[04:37] <jair> slyfox: ifconfig -a or ifconfig eth0
[04:37] <bulmer> secureboot_: thats the browser thats doing such
[04:37] <dyrne> jair: ran vncpasswd ?
[04:37] <jair> slyfox: ifconfig -a or ifconfig eth1
[04:37] <jair> dyrne: hmm I did
[04:38] <SoulChild> which folders need to be in /var/log/ can someone look for me PLEASE
[04:38] <seravitae> Um, in the -386 kernel i apt-get installed nvidia drivers and it works fine. i booted up in -generic kernel and it doesnt work. in #nvidia they said i  need to recompile the kernel module. any ideas how to do this
[04:38] <bulmer> slyfox or learn the new "ip" commands, am trying to learn it too..   ip addr show eth0
[04:38] <railk> secureboot_: each program for itself pretty much...
[04:38] <jair> dyrne: this happen to me one time last week, and I needed to cold shut down the machine then start it and it works :(
[04:38] <Lice> Pici: sorry for asking for 3rd time but how do i exit the gnome again..i pressed F1 before last time
[04:38] <dyrne> jair: ive got that message a few times when behind company firewall.
[04:38] <secureboot_> bulmer: okay - then how does GNOME see a file, and know that when I double click it, it should open it with OpenOffice
[04:38] <skumar> slyfox: ifconfig
[04:38] <jair> but this time I am remotely, I can just restart :(
[04:38] <amigrave> Hi all, I compiled fonts 8x8 in the kernel using config of ubuntu generic kernel with framebuffer supprot. How can actually use 8x8 fonts ?
[04:38] <slyfox> bulmer: I am trying to seup Static IP for Wireless WPA and it does not work so far
[04:38] <secureboot_> railk: so naultius maintains its own database, gaim maintains another, firefox, another?
[04:38] <secureboot_> railk: are you sure?
[04:38] <SoulChild> !/var/log
[04:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about var/log - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:39] <SoulChild> :(
[04:39] <secureboot_> railk: that doesn't seem terribly likely, since they all use the same apps for the same files
[04:39] <dyrne> jair: freenx might work setting sshd to listen on port 443 or something
[04:39] <jair> dyrne: hmmm I wil have to get this working though
[04:39] <SoulChild> I NEED JUST A LITTLE HELP!!!
[04:40] <bulmer> secureboot_: i dont know the internals of the gnome graphical stuff, on the details of which module or program that actually associates when you doubleclick
[04:40] <jair> dyrne: I will check with someone locally there to turn on the machine after I shut it down and tell instructions on how to run the command
[04:40] <railk> secureboot_: quite honestly i dont know too much about it, i asume there's some centralization in gnome/kde/etc...
[04:40] <Lice> !gnome
[04:40] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[04:40] <SoulChild> bulmer,... as u started... could u go on reading the folder names for me, i missunderstood u as my english isn't that good
[04:40] <Pici> Lice : ctrl-alt-f1 to kill xwindows /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[04:40] <jair> dyrne: it says something about refuse by xserver
[04:40] <Lice> okey
[04:41] <jair> dyrne: I may need to run the command that export the -x?
[04:41] <bulmer> SoulChild: okay..there is the wtmp and utmp files
[04:41] <mzuverink> join #gaim
[04:41] <SoulChild> bulmer thats it ?
[04:41] <dyrne> SoulChild: on mine: apache2 cups gdm installer mysql news unattended-upgrades
[04:41] <bulmer> SoulChild: there is the Xorg.0.log
[04:41] <_raphael_> how do I get X to use 32-bit colors?
 im really missing something is there a help file online?
[04:41] <Lice> thx
[04:41] <Lice> trying again
[04:42] <SoulChild> dyrne thanks
[04:42] <bulmer> SoulChild: you need to learn the contents of syslog.conf
[04:42] <SoulChild> bulmer,.. i ll chekc it thank you
[04:43] <Creedence> !ati
[04:43] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:43] <bulmer> ismail: umm there is, look into autotools,make,configure and automake ..this will tell you which files are needed to configure
[04:43] <bulmer> SoulChild: may I suggest just be patient when asking for help..okay?
[04:44] <Svish> !automatix
[04:44] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:44] <SoulChild> bulmer okay
[04:44] <finalbeta> Does linux have somthing like, dare I say it, Dreamweaver? :p
[04:44] <Svish> !worksforme
[04:44] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[04:46] <dyrne> finalbeta: nvu  maybe best bet
[04:47] <mojojojo__> hi, I want to get rid of watchdog so it wouldn't load.. Where should I look to disable it?
[04:48] <unimatrix9> is there no cinelerra for ubuntu?
[04:48] <finalbeta> dyrne: to bad. I don't need a WYSIWYG editor. I write valid xml etc myself. but dreamweaver had a bunch of nice features.
[04:48] <dyrne> finalbeta: well you could always run dreamweaver i guess :)
[04:49] <unimatrix9> is there no cinelerra for ubuntu?
[04:49] <bulmer> finalbeta: what does a dreamweaver do for you? am not familiar with the software
[04:49] <dyrne> finalbeta: oh well looks like its pretty flakey
[04:50] <Pici> !info xmovie | unimatrix9
[04:50] <ubotu> xmovie: a nice video player for uncompressed Quicktime, MPEG streams and more. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.9.12-1.1 (edgy), package size 395 kB, installed size 728 kB (Only available for i386 alpha)
[04:50] <finalbeta> bulmer: synctax highlighting, project management, code snippets, code references, and simply see what you are making in a single click.
[04:50] <finalbeta> validation.
[04:50] <ubuntu01> hi all
[04:51] <ubuntu01> :)
[04:51] <Lice> gahh piece of crap
[04:51] <ubuntu01> :(
[04:51] <ubuntu01> I need help with ATi drivers
[04:51] <HymnToLife> !ati | ubuntu01
[04:51] <bulmer> finalbeta: umm ide development tool? maybe you have looked at Eclipse and Netbeans?
[04:51] <ubotu> ubuntu01: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:52] <ubuntu01> thanks it's a good documention:)
[04:52] <unimatrix9> xmovie is not an video editor!
[04:52] <bulmer> finalbeta those two I mentioned are XML capable plus other capabilities, and they are java based
[04:52] <ubuntu01> I'm love ubuntu:)
[04:52] <unimatrix9> !cinerella
[04:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cinerella - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:52] <finalbeta> bulmer: netbeans can't do any of it for sure, not really familiar with eclypse. i'll check.
[04:53] <finalbeta> But I doubt that holds css/java/php references.
[04:53] <Pici> unimatrix9 : http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/graphics/xmovie says that xmovie is from the cinerella project
[04:54] <cappiz> when i do sudo su i get this: sudo timestamp to far in the future
[04:54] <cappiz> how do i fix that?
[04:54] <variant> could somone remind me the command to show ubuntu version please
[04:54] <variant> ?
[04:55] <mzuverink> Can someone recommend a good search program, I want one that will search all locations include / and mounted removable media
[04:55] <unimatrix9> xmovie is an simple video playback app, cinerella is an movie editor, that you use to edit, sound movie etc...
[04:55] <Pici> cappiz : sudo -k
[04:55] <Pici> !version | variant
[04:55] <ubotu> variant: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[04:55] <mzuverink> Beagle does not seem to do that for me
[04:55] <brosio> is there anyone that install php from source ?
[04:55] <variant> Pici: thanks
[04:56] <cappiz> Pici same error
[04:56] <mzuverink> I would like it to index my entire sysem
 it works weeeeeeeeeeee
[04:56] <variant> mzuverink: you can do that but it is a security risk..
[04:57] <xezz> hello , lrwxrwxrwx  1 root src    30 2007-02-01 17:36 linux-2.6 -> linux-headers-2.6.17-10-server is that link correct ?
[04:57] <Pici> cappiz : try it with a capital K
[04:57] <erUSUL> mzuverink: locate
[04:57] <variant> mzuverink: remember that most files outside of /home/usrename should not be readable by normal uses
[04:57] <variant> users*
[04:57] <bulmer> ismail: congrats
[04:58] <dusty-work>  Hey guys, I am trying to configure a simple samba setup.  I run ubuntu, i installed the samba package.  Edited smb.conf (which you can see here: http://rafb.net/p/hpjC0P40.html) I added a user by doing smpasswd -a username then setting the password.  I then goto a windows machine on the Lan and type \\samba_server_ip\username and it brings a login box up, i enter the username/pass i created and get an error saying: windows wa
[04:58] <cappiz> thanks
[04:58] <dusty-work> s
[04:58] <dusty-work>  unable to log you on be sure that the username and password are correct??
[04:58] <Lice> Pici:  that did not work..i got same error again
 now make doesnt work
[04:58] <ismail> :(
make and make install dont work No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop...whats wrong now
[04:58] <bulmer> ismail: oops....well play around inside the Makefile and find the correct target...
[04:58] <mzuverink> what i am trying to do is remove(delete all insances of desktop.ini and thumbs.db.  My brother pluged in my external hd into windows and now it is full of *ini files and .db files, windows fek
[04:58] <riotkittie> eee. that was stupid.
[04:59] <bulmer> ismail: again make sure you are in the correct directory and it has to have the Makefile in that dir
[04:59] <variant> mzuverink: sudo updatedb && slocate desktop.ini
[04:59] <aciddrops> hello
[04:59] <bulmer> ...i have to leave..laters.
[04:59] <riotkittie> screen rocks. :D
[04:59] <aciddrops> how do i install a ttf?
[05:00] <variant> mzuverink: you can use xargs to use the input as arguments and deleet htem but thats not advised
[05:00] <erUSUL> mzuverink: find /path/to/mrdia -name *.ini -print | xargs rm
[05:00] <erUSUL> mzuverink: find /path/to/mrdia -name *.db -print | xargs rm
[05:00] <mzuverink> ok
[05:00] <erUSUL> *media
[05:00] <riotkittie> i just discovered the beauty of detached screen sessions. accidentally. then i logged out. inadvertently.
[05:01] <variant> riotkittie: haha
[05:01] <variant> riotkittie: thats how i irc
[05:01] <variant> riotkittie: on a remote server
[05:01] <morgWork> any tips on how to add application associations in evolution?
[05:01] <aciddrops> how do i install a new ttf font?
[05:02] <riotkittie> variant: ah cool.
[05:02] <b08y_> morgWork: visit #evolution on Gimpnet
[05:02] <Jowi> aciddrops, copy it to $HOME/.fonts
[05:02] <erUSUL> aciddrops: cp *.ttf ~/.fonts/
[05:04] <b08y_> aciddrops: or open "fonts:///" and drag them in
[05:04] <PI> hola
[05:04] <morgWork> thanks b08y_
[05:05] <dyrne> PI: hey
[05:06] <aciddrops> b08y_: ok good idea thanks
[05:06] <buscolefabcn> -server
[05:06] <buscolefabcn> -server atreides.irc-hispano.org
[05:08] <kestaz> postfix and gmail how to sent email ?
[05:08] <kestaz> using mutt ?
[05:09] <Cyrus25801> what program can i use to play dvd's
[05:09] <soundray> !dvd | Cyrus25801
[05:09] <ubotu> Cyrus25801: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:09] <Jowi> !dvd | Cyrus25801
[05:10] <Scarpitch> Does ubuntu support a "D-Link AirPlus" wireless network-card?
[05:10] <pbureau> chuckles at soundray and asks for his clint eastwood autograph
[05:10] <riotkittie> Scarpitch: i have one  and it worked out of the box
[05:10] <pbureau> Scarpitch, what model I use an air plus
[05:11] <yomm> go ahead , make my day :p
[05:11] <Scarpitch> pbureau: DWL-G520 i think
[05:12] <Jowi> Scarpitch, seems like it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsDlink
[05:12] <ajboorde> How do I remove ubuntu
[05:12] <XD> heeelp
[05:12] <XD> o_o;
[05:12] <riotkittie> yeah you should be good
[05:12] <seravitae> hey is there a way to turn on multithreaded compiling?
[05:12] <seravitae> i have a dualcore cpu and compiling my kernel only uses one core.
[05:12] <soundray> ajboorde: just install something else on the partitions
[05:12] <riotkittie> ajboorde: delete the partition.
[05:12] <ConstyXIV> ajboorde: do you have an original windows disc (not restore disc)?
[05:13] <Scarpitch> thanx for the help!
[05:13] <XD> I'm a linux/unix noob and I've been trying to get my monitors to dual screen for the better half of yesterday
[05:13] <riotkittie> i cant imagine wanting to /remove/ ubuntu. it's sweet. like caaandy.
[05:13] <Scarpitch> hehe!
[05:13] <ConstyXIV> i second riotkittie
[05:13] <XD> I'm a pro at getting a black screen
[05:13] <XD> besides that I've gotten my secondary monitor to work once
[05:13] <dyrne> XD: playing with twinview?
[05:13] <XD> but seemed to only clone
[05:13] <XD> dyrne, yes
[05:13] <XD> bleh
[05:13] <pbureau> Scarpitch, if you do a lspci |  grep -i ethernet what does it give you ?
[05:14] <soundray> seravitae: you'd have to call make with the -j option to parallelize the compilation
[05:14] <Lice> zomg
[05:14] <Lice> my sound card stopped workign :(
[05:14] <Lice> !sound
[05:14] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:14] <erUSUL> seravitae: make -jn (n number of threads, i use 4 in a dual core cpu)
[05:14] <seravitae> erUSUL: ok. um, im following a guide
[05:14] <XD> is there anyway to get this thing to use extended desktop?
[05:14] <soundray> erUSUL: do you still call make directly these days?
[05:15] <XD> cause right now it seems impossible
[05:15] <seravitae> erUSUL i am using: fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=-custom kernel_image kernel_headers
[05:15] <ConstyXIV> soundray: i think so
[05:15] <seravitae> im not sure if i can just stick that in there?
[05:15] <ConstyXIV> thats what i do anyways
[05:15] <dyrne> XD: pastebin your xorg.conf file
[05:15] <erUSUL> soundray: yes i'm used to the old 'do it yourself' way of doing things ;)
[05:15] <dyrne> !pastebin| XD
[05:15] <ubotu> XD: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:16] <soundray> seravitae: I think you can set some environment variables that make reads, including one equivalent to the -j option
[05:16] <ConstyXIV> is there a drop-down console for gnome like yakuake for kde?
[05:16] <seravitae> erUSUL: since im using make-kpkg which doesnt give me an option for threads, is there a way to like, 'force' all make commands to be appended by -jn 4?
[05:16] <riotkittie> ConstyXIV: tilda
[05:17] <XD> dyrne, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3696/
[05:17] <seravitae> soundray:  fair enough. how might i access the environment variables?
[05:17] <XD> my device1 has a pci bus that USED to work
[05:17] <XD> but now everytime I put it in it freezes up gknome
[05:18] <erUSUL> seravitae: man make-kpkg ;) (use CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=n fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=-custom kernel_image kernel_headers  whre n is the number of threads
[05:18] <soundray> seravitae: 'export MAKEFLAGS='-j 4', then try again
[05:18] <holycow> morning
[05:18] <seravitae> ok
[05:19] <erUSUL> seravitae: man is your friend ;)
[05:19] <soundray> seravitae: oh, erUSUL's sounds better
[05:19] <holycow> guys i'm looking for confirmation that sudoers doesn't work proiperly on dapper.  specifically adding 'username ALL = /usr/bin/time-admin' does not give a specific user access to a specific binary such as time-admin.
[05:19] <holycow> i have two dapper boxes on which that doesn't work
[05:19] <seravitae> erUSUL: ah yeah
[05:19] <soundray> seravitae: probably your compilation has finished on a single core by now ;)
[05:19] <riotkittie> holycow: how are you editting the sudoers file?
[05:19] <seravitae> soundray - no way. takes forever.
[05:20] <holycow> visudo of course
[05:20] <mojojojo__> hi I want to prevent watchdog and esd from being loaded. Do you know how to do it?
[05:20] <riotkittie> holycow: ok. nm then.
[05:20] <seravitae> soundray: haha, i did your export one first - now it's complaining that the makeflags are bad.
[05:20] <holycow> i need someone to try giving a single user sudo access to a single binary on dapper ... i really really don't think it actually works
[05:20] <holycow> but i need confirmation
[05:20] <riotkittie> i'd check as i'm running dapper but visudo scares me
[05:20] <holycow> i think no one has tried this
[05:21] <seravitae> Yeah, crap.
[05:21] <riotkittie> ok. brb
[05:21] <soundray> holycow: if you find that it doesn't, consider doing it with ssh keys
[05:21] <seravitae> i went export MAKEFLAGS='' to clear the flags, and now it won't compile.
[05:21] <holycow> soundray, what?
[05:21] <soundray> holycow: according to pkeck's instructions (google)
[05:21] <seravitae> what is the default MAKEFLAGS equal to? :(
[05:21] <soundray> seravitae: empty
[05:22] <holycow> soundray, that doesn't even make sense ... ssh keys? you think im settin gup ssh?
[05:22] <moles> hello
[05:22] <riotkittie> umm
[05:22] <Scarpitch> what's the best ubuntu-community forum? or place for ubuntu-stuff :D
[05:22] <seravitae> soundray:  i did export MAKEFLAGS='' <--- now it errors out on compilation.
[05:22] <soundray> holycow: look, follow my suggestion and look up that page. If I'm still not making sense, you can come back to me.
[05:22] <moles> ububuntu in spanish?
[05:22] <Jowi> !forum | Scarpitch
[05:22] <ubotu> Scarpitch: The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org
[05:22] <holycow> uh no.  but thank you
[05:22] <holycow> i do appreciate the effort
[05:23] <erUSUL> !es | moles
[05:23] <Scarpitch> ubotu: nice! thx
[05:23] <ubotu> moles: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:23] <ubotu> nice: Extension of Java with parametric types, multi-methods, and more. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.10-1 (edgy), package size 1450 kB, installed size 1732 kB
[05:23] <holycow> i'm only interested in working through the sudo problem via sudo, not some hack
[05:23] <soundray> holycow: look, I even found it for you: http://pkeck.myweb.uga.edu/ssh/
[05:23] <holycow> thank you, appreciate the help
[05:23] <moles> thanks
[05:23] <seravitae> ahhhh! yes! working now
[05:23] <soundray> holycow: this is *not* a hack
[05:23] <riotkittie> ok that line you posted was what i need to add to sudoers to test ? exactly? save for username, of course
[05:23] <dyrne> XD: can i pm you?
[05:23] <XD> please
[05:23] <XD> do
[05:24] <Cyrus25801> soundray: thanx for the wikki. I follwoed it but i still can't get gxine to play a dvd. it tells me plugin not found.
[05:24] <IAmWill> Where is the list of repositories?
[05:24] <riotkittie> fg
[05:24] <riotkittie> err
[05:24] <riotkittie> oops
[05:24] <holycow> soundray, thank you but that is not really anything i can use.
[05:25] <Cyrus25801> soundray, jowi: thanx for the wikki. I follwoed it but i still can't get gxine to play a dvd. it tells me plugin not found.
[05:25] <bart_> hey all
[05:25] <IAmWill> ehh.. the list of repository links.. thats what I meant.
[05:25] <soundray> holycow: if you want to give a user specific permission to run a command with another user's rights, including root, then, yes, it is.
[05:25] <bart_> anybody in here has knowledge about seting up wacom tablets?
[05:25] <holycow> can someone try setting up a single user on dapper to have sudo access to a single binary?  i need to confirm that this stupid thing is broken
[05:26] <fritobandito> you should try mpeg2dec
[05:26] <soundray> seravitae: if " export MAKEFLAGS='' " won't work, you may have to open a new shell.
[05:26] <Cyrus25801> can someone help me to play a dvd in gxine
[05:27] <seravitae> soundray: it was something else i forgot to change. it's all good now
[05:27] <steve_> how do you restart alsa?
[05:27] <seravitae> 3.74GHz of processing powah
[05:27] <soundray> Cyrus25801: have you installed libdvdcss ?
[05:28] <Cyrus25801> soundray: it said nothing about that in the wiki. Will install and get back to you. Thanx
[05:28] <soundray> !libdvdcss
[05:28] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:29] <soundray> steve_: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[05:29] <ismail> guys does anyone have problems playing vcds?
[05:29] <pbureau> soundray, I have a technical question, why you can install an appllication (example ekiga) from the Application|add/remove screen, but add/remove cannot remove it because of dependencies, sinceit installed it should it not know how to remove it ? I know I canuse snyaptic to remove it, just musing why a software would be... "half built"
[05:30] <soundray> pbureau: I feel honoured that you address such a complex question to me, but shamed that I have no answer ready for you ;)
[05:30] <soundray> pbureau: just a humble user myself...
[05:31] <steve_> thanks
[05:31] <innu> Hey. I have 2 versions of libkrb53 in apt-get cache. I want install second one. how can i do it?
[05:31] <soundray> pbureau: I know aptitude is "fully built" in this respect
[05:31] <JeffHeard> I found the problem with my SMP setup for my dual-core processor.  Unfortunately it has to do with not loading acpi at boot
[05:31] <pbureau> soundray, yes I know, just musing on the "really safe to use add/remove app now"
[05:32] <JeffHeard> which means that I have the "sticky key" problem
[05:32] <JeffHeard> which I hate above all other problems
[05:32] <JeffHeard> anybody know of a less surgical method for ridding oneself of the sticky key problem?
[05:32] <Enselic`> It appears as if the RealPlayer plugin cannot be found occasionally, even though it is present in about:plugins. Does anyone know what could cause this?
[05:33] <Akkabus> hi, i have a question here about working with FAT32 drives in linux: how do i change the case of a filename, say Foo.txt to foo.txt? the mv command doesn't seem to work for case-insensitive drives
[05:33] <pbureau> Enselic`,  did you install the QT10 for linux or just the plug in for your browser
[05:33] <ajboordede> I need help with fdisking
[05:33] <Jowi> holycow, it works fine. example in "sudo visudo":     testuser ALL = (root) /sbin/cfdisk
[05:33] <Enselic`> pbureau: I can get it to work by just restarting firefox
[05:34] <holycow> Jowi, danke! appreciate the test!
[05:34] <Cyrus25801> soundray: thanx missed the command
[05:34] <Enselic`> pbureau: but it appears as if it sometimes, randomly, don't want to find it
[05:34] <Enselic`> pbureau: but still, if I enter about:plugins it is there
[05:34] <ajboordede> I need help removing ubuntu
[05:34] <anaper> yo quiero mi msg
[05:34] <ajboordede> How do I do it
[05:34] <pbureau> Enselic`, you got me I dont use firefox.. I use opera
[05:34] <pbureau> Enselic`, I would check the firefox web site maybe its a known problem
[05:34] <soundray> ajboordede: I replied to you before. What was wrong with my answer?
[05:34] <Enselic`> pbureau: I see. Btw, how come you prefer opera?
[05:35] <pbureau> Enselic`,  I dont liek the layout on firefox
[05:35] <Enselic`> ajboordede: what system do you want instead?
[05:35] <ajboordede> XP then I will put ubuntu on
[05:35] <holycow> thats my reason for not using opera pbureau :)
[05:35] <ajboordede> Because I need both
[05:35] <Enselic`> ajboordede:  backup what you want to save, then make a XP innstall
[05:36] <soundray> !dualboot | ajboordede
[05:36] <ubotu> ajboordede: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[05:36] <Lice> !sound
[05:36] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:36] <Enselic`> ajboordede: make sure you partion the disk
[05:36] <GNUtoo> i can't compile the kernel:http://www.pastebin.ca/335812
[05:36] <pbureau> holycow,  yup other prefer mozzila .. they are all pretty much the same functionality wize its pretty personal choice I agree
[05:36] <Enselic`> ajboordede: so that you can install Ubuntu there afterwords
[05:36] <GNUtoo> what should i do?
[05:36] <ajboordede> I put in my XP cd but it isnt booting
[05:36] <ojai> anyone know if there's already an update for the 2007 DST change in the US?
[05:36] <yossi> How do I mount a Windows share that is a whole partition, permanently?
[05:36] <Enselic`> ajboordede: make sure the BIOS looks for CDs
[05:36] <iperez> hola
[05:36] <yossi> (On Ubuntu Edgy)
[05:36] <pbureau> yossi, man mount
[05:36] <ajboordede> How do I do that
[05:36] <Enselic`> ajboordede: "bootable devices", there should be CDs first
[05:36] <ajboordede> I am running live atm
[05:37] <soundray> !ntfs | yossi
[05:37] <ubotu> yossi: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:37] <brainly-green> in Konsole, what's the hotkey for adding a new console tab
[05:37] <brainly-green> without having to go and click
[05:37] <Enselic`> ajboordede: reboot your computer, you should see "press F2 to enter BIOS" or somthing
[05:37] <defrysk> ctrl-t
[05:37] <soundray> GNUtoo: first, ask yourself, do I really need to compile a kernel?
[05:37] <brainly-green> it's not ctrl-t and not ctrl-shift-t
[05:37] <Enselic`> ajboordede: then navigate the BIOS menus
[05:37] <Akkabus> hi, i have a question here about working with FAT32 drives in linux: how do i change the case of a filename, say Foo.txt to foo.txt? the mv command doesn't seem to work for case-insensitive drives
[05:37] <defrysk> brainly-green, correct
[05:37] <ojai> CTRL-SHIFT-N
[05:37] <Enselic`> brainly-green: Ctrl + Shitft + T in Terminal
[05:37] <soundray> GNUtoo: if you find that you absolutely have to, follow the established guidance:
[05:37] <yossi> pbureau, soundray: It's on another computer on the same Windows network, not on this one.
[05:38] <brainly-green> ah thanks ojai
[05:38] <ajboordede> Okay I will try
[05:38] <soundray> !kernelcompile | GNUtoo
[05:38] <ubotu> GNUtoo: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[05:38] <defrysk> ctrl-t in firefox
[05:38] <soundray> yossi: oops sorry
[05:38] <ojai> brainly-green: np.  that one took me a while to figure out too :)
[05:38] <GNUtoo> soundray: i have to remoove the module versioning support in order to install a kernel module so...
[05:38] <soundray> !smbfs | yossi
[05:38] <ubotu> smbfs: mount and umount commands for the smbfs (for kernels >= than 2.2.x). In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 375 kB, installed size 900 kB
[05:38] <GNUtoo> thanks
[05:38] <GNUtoo> soundray,ubotu: thanks
[05:38] <soundray> GNUtoo: can't you just recompile the module for your running kernel?
[05:39] <GNUtoo> soundray: it doesn't work either...
[05:39] <Enselic`> GNUtoo: no need to thank ubotu, it's a bot :p
[05:39] <soundray> Enselic`: it does appreciate thanks, you know?
[05:39] <JeffHeard> does anyone here know anything about fixing the sticky key problem?  You know, the one where you hit a key and four copies of the same letter appear?  It's a kernel problem, I know that much
[05:39] <soundray> !botsnack
[05:39] <ubotu> Yum!
[05:40] <Enselic`> JeffHeard: are you using a Ubuntu provided kernel?
[05:40] <JeffHeard> yep
[05:40] <Enselic`> JeffHeard: what kind of keyboard?
[05:40] <pbureau> JeffHeard, a kernel problem? key debounce as I know is usually a keyboard issue..
[05:40] <ferret_0567__> Why does Ubuntu see my Sony CD Mavica camera (don't know the exact model number) in PTP mode as a Sony <something> camera? Right now, it just detects the camera as a "PTP/IP Camera". This is using libgphoto2 and Gthumb.
[05:40] <soundray> yossi: when you have smbfs, you can add a line like '//host/share /mountpoint smbfs uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0' to /etc/fstab
[05:41] <JeffHeard> Yes, and no -- when it affects only the keyboard, this is true, but it also affects the mouse -- I had this happen on my old Dell, and I had to remove a kernel mod, but I can't remember which one
[05:41] <yossi> How is it supposed to work when I just want to access a Windows folder once, when it's shared. That should be possible via the GUI, right?
[05:41] <JeffHeard> keyboard I'm using is the one attached to the laptop
[05:41] <yossi> (Right now I'm either doing it wrong or it doesn't work.)
[05:41] <JeffHeard> same problem with my MS natural
[05:41] <ferret_0567__> I had the very same camera detected as a Sony <something> camera in FC6
[05:42] <soundray> yossi: 'mount -t smbfs -o username=yossi //host/share /mnt'
[05:42] <ferret_0567__> I still have a FC6 machine, if you need me to plug the camera into there
[05:42] <soundray> yossi: sorry 'sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=yossi //host/share /mnt'
[05:42] <juano> where is the sudoers file ??
[05:42] <JeffHeard> I seem to recall it having to do with the acpi, but simply booting with noacpi gives me a one core machine, which is less than optimal
[05:43] <holycow> Jowi, weird, that doesn't work for my dapper .. can you post your sudoers file to: pastebin.ca perhaps?
[05:43] <juano> found it, /etc/sudoers
[05:43] <soundray> yossi: you will then need root permissions to read/write to /mnt, unless you also use the uid,gid options from my fstab suggestion
[05:44] <yossi> soundray: but how is the whole "connect to server" GUI supposed to work? I want to try that way first.
[05:44] <brainly-green> hey how do I open a terminal in KDE, I have no menus and no terminal
[05:44] <skarface> does alt-f2 work?
[05:44] <Enselic`> brainly-green: try #kubuntu
[05:45] <yossi> and soundray the mount -t command doesn't work, it can't connect to the host (MSHOME)
[05:45] <soundray> yossi: MSHOME is most likely not the host, but the workgroup name
[05:45] <JeffHeard> ta
[05:45] <JeffHeard> sorry about that -- thought I was in another window
[05:45] <soundray> yossi: try with the IP address of the host
[05:46] <soundray> I love you too, honey
[05:46] <soundray> Ooops, wrong channel
[05:46] <soundray> ;)
[05:46] <JeffHeard> brainly-green: try hitting alt-space and getting katapult.  Then you can type 'kon' annd the first thing you see should be "Konsole"
[05:47] <Esine> Hi. I have a Ubuntu 6.06 Live CD here, but it doesn't seem to detect my both processors. Is there an SMP kernel included? If so, how can I boot into the correct kernel?
[05:48] <Esine> Note that I use Ubuntu only for Live CD use here, I don't intended to install it, which means I won't be using apt-get here.
[05:48] <soundray> Esine: I *think* the dapper CDs came without an SMP kernel. With edgy (6.10) it's different
[05:48] <Esine> oh
[05:48] <mojojojo__> hi I want to prevent watchdog and esd from being loaded. Do you know how to do it?
[05:49] <Akkabus> hi, i have a question here about working with FAT32 drives in linux: how do i change the case of a filename, say Foo.txt to foo.txt? the mv command doesn't seem to work for case-insensitive drives
[05:49] <soundray> Esine: apt-get will work on the live CD, except that you cannot install something that needs rebooting, such as a kernel.
[05:49] <kober> Hey, I just plugged in my USB external harddrive and it mounted but I don't have permission to write to it
[05:49] <Esine> yeah, that's what I meant
[05:49] <kober> how could i make it so it mounts my usb drives writeable?
[05:49] <eet_zzzzzzzzzz> I have a weird problem.  When I run my tests, a certain table is not created in my test database.  However, when I run rake db:migrate, that table is created just fine in my dev db.  What could it be?
[05:49] <Esine> I'm just using the live-cd as a way to get X while installing Gentoo..
[05:49] <soundray> Akkabus: it doesn't work because they are the same file. Try 'mv Foo.txt temp ; mv temp foo.txt'
[05:49] <patrick_> how do i add another user to the sudo list
[05:49] <Esine> and it's a lot slower with only one processer
[05:50] <Esine> processor*
[05:50] <kober> patrick_: /etc/sudoers
[05:50] <soundray> patrick_: 'sudo adduser username admin'
[05:50] <Akkabus> hi soundray, tried it, but when i move it to foo.txt, it becomes Foo.txt again :(
[05:51] <patrick_> thank you
[05:51] <juano> !samba
[05:51] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:51] <soundray> Akkabus: fat32 is unnerving like that. Can't you get rid of it and use a decent filesystem?
[05:51] <holycow> !sudoers
[05:51] <holycow> !sudo
[05:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sudoers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:51] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:51] <Akkabus> does NTFS have the same problem?
[05:52] <soundray> Akkabus: I don't think it does, but it has other annoyances, like being nonfree and poorly documented.
[05:52] <jaycie> im wanting to find out the simplest linux.. ubuntu.. edubuntu or what if i can. thanks
[05:52] <padlefot> fat chicks uses heavylinux
[05:52] <Akkabus> k thanks soundray, it seems like i'll have to live with it
[05:52] <soundray> Akkabus: best for a shared Linux/Windows partition is ext3 (install ext2fsd in Windows)
[05:52] <padlefot> Akkabus: I have to agree with soundray
[05:53] <rly> hey, I just installed ubuintu for the first time
[05:53] <padlefot> you can find ext2fsd free from sf.net if im not mistaking
[05:53] <rly> is this network freenode?
[05:53] <Enselic`> rly: nice
[05:53] <soundray> Akkabus: the obvious problem is if your filesystem is on a portable device that you want to connect to other machines
[05:53] <padlefot> rly: correcto
[05:54] <Akkabus> its just a partition, but i have all my data on it, so im not too keen on switching :P
[05:54] <rly> I have a lot to learn about this... but I'm loving this OS
[05:54] <soundray> padlefot: do you happen to know of a way to read ext3 in Mac OS?
[05:54] <Enselic`> rly: are you familiar with Linux in general?
[05:54] <lonran> hi
[05:54] <blankfaze> hey, do you guys know if it is possible to install ubuntu onto an external usb hard drive?
[05:54] <rly> nope
[05:55] <soundray> blankfaze: it has been done
[05:55] <soundray> !install | blankfaze
[05:55] <ubotu> blankfaze: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[05:55] <padlefot> soundray: sorry, all i know is the x86 architecture :S
[05:55] <Enselic`> rly: http://tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/index.html         <- great start
[05:55] <padlefot> soundray: but I wouldnt be amazed if you could find something googling :-)
[05:55] <soundray> !cli | rly, also:
[05:55] <ubotu> rly, also:: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[05:55] <aoupi> soundray: I think it is possible but it's buggy as hell and I don't recommend it :)
[05:56] <blankfaze> i still can't even get ubuntu to not give me a black screen with blinking cursor just booting from the cd
[05:56] <aoupi> soundray: ext2fsx
[05:56] <soundray> aoupi: thanks. I'll have a shot
[05:56] <blankfaze> but i am curious because i don't really want to partition the master in my tower
[05:57] <lonran> I want to install xgl+compiz. xgl is already running but when i try to run compiz, no compiz process is appears in ps -A. Any reason why compiz could crash and not start?
[05:57] <bokey> lonran, compiz fires compiz.real
[05:59] <Akkabus> soundray, thanks for your help, gave me a few options to work with if i ever need to change the filesystem
[06:00] <soundray> bokey: that's in case it ever needs to be linked to compiz.unreal instead :)
[06:01] <Andy> hey can anyone help me? i'm trying to set up mdadm to read from an nVidia raid0 array.
[06:01] <juancg> UE  PASA
[06:01] <LjL> !es
[06:01] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:02] <juancg> QUE  DECIS
[06:02] <pbureau> juancg, estoy espanol o portuguesh ?
[06:02] <T-ROK> hey i need major help right away
[06:02] <lonran> bokey, compiz.real doesnt appear either in ps
[06:02] <erUSUL> juancg: no grites, y por favor si quieres hablar en espaol vete a #ubuntu-es
[06:02] <lonran> any idea?
[06:02] <Andy> nobody can help me create an md drive?
[06:03] <juancg> ESPAOL
[06:03] <LjL> erUSUL: thanks, i was trying to find out how to say "use caps"... =)
[06:03] <T-ROK> How do i get the GRUB installer off of my hard drive i delted the partition ubuntu was on because im going to make a new one and reinstall
[06:03] <T-ROK> but now i cant boot windows
[06:03] <T-ROK> get Error 17
[06:03] <jatt> !es
[06:03] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:04] <T-ROK> can anyone help me?
[06:04] <karmikaze> hi ive read the supported page and the forums, but i was just wondering if anyone can personally recommend a PCI wifi card that was worked easily or particularly well for them
[06:04] <lonran> how do i know in which display is xgl running (i mean current display) ?
[06:04] <erUSUL> LjL: you are wellcome
[06:05] <XD> can anyone help me with my extended desktop xorg.conf issue
[06:05] <soundray> karmikaze: buy from a dealer who guarantees Linux support, e.g. http://www.linuxemporium.co.uk/products/wireless/
[06:05] <sdac221x> hi,  i installed tomcat5.5 from syanaptic.  i can't find where the application was installed. there is no entry in the start menu nor is there an executable in /usr/bin with the name tomcat.   how does one keep track his software in linux if its all in invisible through synaptic.     anyone know where tomcat is ?
[06:06] <T-ROK>  GRUB Loading stage 1.5.
[06:06] <T-ROK> GRUB loading, please wait...
[06:06] <T-ROK> Error 17
[06:06] <T-ROK> i get that when i try to boot my pc im on the live disc now how can i delete the grub
[06:07] <LjL> T-ROK, try "grub-install --root-directory=/media/your-ubuntu-partition /dev/your-boot-drive"
[06:07] <LjL> (after mounting your ubuntu partition that is)
[06:07] <LjL> Ubotu, tell T-ROK about grub | T-ROK, see the private message from Ubotu
[06:07] <T-ROK> i can't
[06:07] <T-ROK> ubuntu is deleted
[06:07] <T-ROK> i destroyed the partition
[06:07] <kitche> sdac221: it will be in /usr/bin and tomcat is a server for java serlet and JavaServer Pages
[06:07] <padlefot> oh grace & glory.. i bought my first LCD monitor
[06:07] <Nilvio> where i can download more widgets ?
[06:07] <LjL> T-ROK: then GRUB won't work, for sure. you need to use the facilities of your current OS
[06:07] <padlefot> free CRT monitors, over here..
[06:08] <T-ROK> i cant get into windows
[06:08] <T-ROK> i want to delete the grub
[06:08] <T-ROK> can i do that somehow?
[06:08] <LjL> T-ROK: you can't. or, well, you can, but you'll be left without GRUB *and* without any other bootloader
[06:08] <padlefot> T-ROK: boot the ubuntu 6.10 install cd
[06:08] <T-ROK> im on that now
[06:08] <LjL> T-ROK: if you want to restore the *Windows* bootloader, you'll need a Windows CD i believe.
[06:08] <T-ROK> ok how do i do that then?
[06:09] <sdac221x> kitche:  yes i looked in /usr/bin for "tomcat" .  tried tab in terminal but nothing is there.... maybe its under a different name if so how can i find out ??
[06:09] <skumar> join #ubuntu-in
[06:09] <padlefot> LjL> T-ROK, try "grub-install --root-directory=/media/your-ubuntu-partition /dev/your-boot-drive"
[06:09] <LjL> T-ROK: i don't quite know for sure, not a Windows user. but IIRC, boot from the CD, choose console mode, and "fixmbr" or something (there is a "help" command anyway)
[06:09] <ConstyXIV> T-ROK, get a windows 2k or XP disk, pull up the Recovery Console, type "fixmbr"
[06:09] <LjL> padlefot: that won't work since he doesn't have a Ubuntu partition anymore
[06:09] <pbureau> xchat question, any one know how to make it do split windows (2 channels on one screen?)
[06:09] <padlefot> oh, I see..
[06:09] <SpacePumford> erm is anyone good with windows computers here?
[06:09] <padlefot> then i would recommend getting a Windows boot disk or something similar..
[06:10] <T-ROK> fixmbr
[06:10] <ConstyXIV> SpacePumford: what?
[06:10] <T-ROK> that will put everything back to just having windows?
[06:10] <ConstyXIV> T-ROK: yup
[06:10] <DDigi> _Hanna: u awake?
[06:10] <T-ROK> ok but i wont loose my windows files or other partitions?
[06:10] <LjL> T-ROK: if it works, yes. but as i said, i just went by memory, i'm not a Windows user. try ##windows
[06:10] <kitche> sdac221x: ok it seems to me usr/share/tomcat5/bin/startup.sh is what your looking for I believe
[06:10] <ConstyXIV> T-ROK: right
[06:10] <LjL> T-ROK: not that i know of.
[06:10] <T-ROK> ok
[06:10] <SpacePumford> wel i downloaded vista yesterday from usenet and i dunno what to do next
[06:10] <SpacePumford> ;/
[06:10] <T-ROK> i'm gonna try that now
[06:10] <DDigi> Hanna_: u awake?
[06:10] <T-ROK> see ya
[06:10] <padlefot> you can use the ubuntu cd to edit menu.lst and make grub load windows for you
[06:11] <ConstyXIV> I am a windows user LjL
[06:11] <LjL> T-ROK: of course, you *will* lose stuff if you choose the wrong options from the Windows boot CD
[06:11] <LjL> blah
[06:11] <lonran> i get this error when tryin to run compiz:  No managable screens found on display :1   Any idea?
 : is usenet good for O/Ss?!
[06:11] <ConstyXIV> SpacePumford: what do you want to do with it?
[06:11] <padlefot> just google "dualboot with grub" or something and follow the instructions
[06:11] <ConstyXIV> SpacePumford: dualboot?
[06:11] <DDigi> Or LILO
[06:11] <LjL> ConstyXIV: well, i just hope he's careful with what he does
[06:11] <SpacePumford> i want to put it onto a disk so i can install it
[06:12] <kitche> padlefot: well he would have to reinstall linux since it seems like he deleted the linux partitions
[06:12] <DDigi> Grub is better but LILO is easyer
[06:12] <ConstyXIV> SpacePumford: cdrecord (iso)
[06:12] <ConstyXIV> but use a dvd
[06:12] <SpacePumford> yes
[06:12] <DDigi> ISOburner
[06:12] <ConstyXIV> or r-click, burn
[06:12] <squeaks> hey all, i installed suse and it overwrote my grub, i want my old one back, besides ubuntuguide suggesting 'super grub disk' is there a dpkg-reconfigure that i can do or something?
[06:12] <SpacePumford> its in rar files
[06:12] <_Archangel> if i have edgy, and i want feisty, do i dimply change the repos to feisty ?
[06:12] <padlefot> kitche: yeah, I guess you're right..
[06:12] <SpacePumford> and like in diffrerent parta
[06:12] <LjL> Ubotu, tell _Archangel about feisty | _Archangel, see the private message from Ubotu
[06:12] <ConstyXIV> SpacePumford: unrar (files)
[06:12] <SpacePumford> what about the par2 files
[06:13] <ConstyXIV> SpacePumford: i think you can just unrar the first part
[06:13] <ferret_0567__> !camera
[06:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about camera - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:13] <ConstyXIV> SpacePumford: and it will do the rest
[06:13] <LjL> T-ROK, try "grub-install --root-directory=/media/your-ubuntu-partition /dev/your-boot-drive" <-- squeaks, was just suggesting this to someone else (for a different reason)
[06:13] <kitche> squeaks: you can still boot to ubuntu correct?
[06:13] <ConstyXIV> !f-spot
[06:13] <ubotu> f-spot: personal photo management application. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.1-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 573 kB, installed size 3396 kB
[06:13] <ferret_0567__> !libgphoto2
[06:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libgphoto2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:13] <squeaks> kitche, yes, i'm in ubuntu right now
[06:13] <LjL> that's from a live CD squeaks. if you can boot into your own Ubuntu install, you can leave the --root-directory part out i suppose
[06:13] <SpacePumford> is theyre anywhere i can just download it so i just have to unrar one file, im kinda crap when it comes to computers
[06:13] <sdac221x> kitche:  yes the file is there.. but in general how can i tell where the programs are installed when i do it through synaptic ?   it makes one forget which programs he has if they're not in the start menu.
[06:14] <ConstyXIV> Ubotu, tell ferret_0567__ about f-spot
[06:14] <kitche> !grub|squeaks use the recovering grub link
[06:14] <ubotu> squeaks use the recovering grub link: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:14] <ferret_0567__> I'll try F-Spot next...
[06:14] <ferret_0567__> It's launching now
[06:14] <LjL> sdac221x: files from packages can get installed in many different places. "dpkg -L packagename" will list the files that belong to a given package, and "dpkg -S filename" will tell which package contains a given file
[06:15] <FactTech> Question: I have Xubuntu 6.10. The trash can icon always shows as full even if the trash folder is empty. Any idea what might be causing this?
[06:15] <ferret_0567__> I have to wait for my camera to finish scanning it's disc
[06:15] <sdac221x> LjL:  ok thanks
[06:15] <ferret_0567__> It disconnects from the USB bus until it finished that process
[06:15] <squeaks> LjL, i'll just backup /boot/grub/menu.lst then try ur thing
[06:15] <ConstyXIV> ferret_0567__: if you used picaca on windows, it's very similar
[06:15] <kitche> sdac221x: well servers don't get added to the menu since they don't have any user action and usually started at boot but anyways read this for more information http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.0-doc/index.html about tomcat
[06:15] <ConstyXIV> ferret_0567__: or, use picasa on linux
[06:15] <Alfiriel> l
[06:16] <variant> !init
[06:16] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[06:16] <ferret_0567__> I have never used Picasa, but F-Spot only detects my camera as a "PTP/IP Camera" too
[06:16] <FactTech> ubotu trash
[06:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:16] <T> ok i used the boot cd to get onto windows
[06:16] <T> how can i delete the grub installer from here
[06:16] <ConstyXIV> T: fixmbr
[06:16] <padlefot> install tips before i insall vmware with edgy ??
[06:16] <padlefot> *install
[06:17] <variant> T: you mean delete grub so youcan only use windows?
[06:17] <T> but im in windows
[06:17] <LjL> T: you mean you have accessed your Windows installation, or just that you're in the Windows boot CD?
[06:17] <T> i do that from here?
[06:17] <ConstyXIV> T: cmd, then fixmbr
[06:17] <T> no im on windows thats installed on my hard drive
[06:17] <T> ok
[06:17] <FactTech> Question: Nobody has any clues with the trash can thing?
[06:17] <ferret_0567__> How can you lookup packages with ubotu?
[06:17] <ConstyXIV> T: i know
[06:17] <LjL> T: if you are in Windows already, then i strongly believe you have *already* restored your Windows MBR
[06:17] <LjL> Ubotu, tell ferret_0567__ about bot | ferret_0567__, see the private message from Ubotu
[06:17] <ferret_0567__> It said something about that
[06:17] <variant> T: in cmd.exe type fdisk /mbr to restore windows boot loader
[06:17] <T> no
[06:18] <T> i used the boot cd then it gave me an option to boot from hd
[06:18] <variant> LjL: not if he used grub to boot windows
[06:18] <kitche> FactTech: should be ~/.Trash what do you want to know about it and what desktop environment are you using?
[06:18] <lonran> someone  running xgl/compiz in dapper 64bits, where did u get the package?
[06:18] <LjL> ferret_0567__:  /msg ubotu info <package> [<distribution>]  ,   /msg ubotu find <package-or-filename> 
[06:18] <ferret_0567__> cool
[06:18] <ConstyXIV> T: you want to use your windows cd, go into the instalelr
[06:18] <variant> T: no you wont do it?
[06:18] <FactTech> kitche It's Xfce, I think, since I'm using Xubuntu 6.10. The problem I'm having is minor but annoying -- the trash can icon always shows as full even when it's emptied.
[06:18] <variant> T: i just told you how to do it
[06:19] <LjL> variant, will GRUB even work at all if his Ubuntu partition is gone? i thought it would panic without a menu.lst
[06:19] <T> "fix mbr is not recognized as an internal or external comand"
[06:19] <T> whats that mean?
[06:19] <kitche> FactTech: hmm probably that's the graphic it's meant to use, I don't use the trash can when I use xfce I have that feature turned off
[06:19] <ConstyXIV> LjL: error 17
[06:19] <ferret_0567__> Too cool...
[06:19] <LjL> T: perhaps "fixmbr" instead of "fix mbr"?
[06:19] <poningru> ...
[06:19] <poningru> poor kid
[06:19] <variant> LjL: yes, grub is installed to the mbr so it would give him a grub shell where you can enter limited commands (enough to boot an os)
[06:19] <T> yeah i got error 17
[06:19] <LjL> ConstyXIV: which reinforces my thesis that he has already restored his MS MBR... no?
[06:19] <LjL> variant: ah, true that
[06:20] <FactTech> kitche Interestingly enough, there doesn't seem to be a ~/.Trash directory! I wonder if that's part of the issue.
[06:20] <T> nope same message for fixmbr
[06:20] <ConstyXIV> T: as i said, go to your windows cd, let the installer boot, take recovery console
[06:20] <T> i did
[06:20] <T> then what do i do
[06:20] <aalhamad> hi all.. I've custumize keyboard shourtcut that if i press (CTRL+i) i get an email (evelotuion) which is fine. I want to change the evelouiton default to thunderbird .. how can i do it?
[06:20] <ConstyXIV> LjL: grub is still there
[06:20] <ConstyXIV> T: fixmbr
[06:20] <kitche> FactTech: maybe I only xfce can have a trash can but I don't think it's on by default in Xubuntu
[06:20] <T> i pressed q and it booted from cd
[06:20] <LjL> T: you said you chose "Boot from HD", didn't you? that's not the same thing as they're telling you
[06:20] <T> yeah
[06:20] <T> ok
[06:20] <ferret_0567__> GNOME can have a Trash Can on  the desktop too
[06:20] <poningru> T http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/bootcons_fixmbr.mspx
[06:21] <T> ok so when i go into recovery type fixmbr?
[06:21] <aalhamad> hi all.. I've custumize keyboard shourtcut that if i press (CTRL+i) i get an email (evelotuion) which is fine. I want to change the evelouiton default to thunderbird .. how can i do it?-----------plz help.....
[06:21] <ConstyXIV> T: yes
[06:21] <ferret_0567__> travis@ubuntulaptop:~$ lsusb
[06:21] <ferret_0567__> Bus 002 Device 006: ID 054c:004e Sony Corp. DSC-xxx (ptp)
[06:21] <T> ok im going to go try that now
[06:21] <T> see ya
[06:21] <ferret_0567__> The HAL device manager says that too under my USB Bus
[06:21] <aalhamad> not an email i mean the emails program
[06:21] <variant> T: do what i said, your in windows and in the command you type fdisk /mbr it will re write the windows bootloader and when you reb oot will auto boot windows
[06:21] <variant> idiot
[06:21] <ConstyXIV> variant: hese gone
[06:22] <LjL> variant, *cough*
[06:22] <ferret_0567__> "Sony Corp. DSC-xxx (ptp)"
[06:22] <ferret_0567__> Which is true, my camera model is like that
[06:22] <ferret_0567__> going to go eat
[06:22] <kippi> how can you read mail from the command line?
[06:22] <aalhamad> i know what im saying is 2 dificult .. but anybody knows?
[06:22] <kippi> on freebsd you just type mail, is there somthing the same?
[06:23] <kitche> kippi: set up fetchmail to grab your mail then use pine or mutt or just the plain mail command to read it after fetchmail grabs it
[06:23] <poningru> kippi: you can use a cli email client
[06:23] <poningru> like alpine or mutt
[06:23] <poningru> kippi: where is your mail stored?
[06:23] <kippi> this is the system mail
[06:23] <poningru> aalhamad: whats wrong?
[06:23] <fuk> anyone use beryl?
[06:24] <poningru> fuk: #ubuntu-xgl
[06:24] <aalhamad> hi all.. I've custumize keyboard shourtcut that if i press (CTRL+i) i get email package (evelotuion) which is fine. I want to change the evelouiton default to thunderbird .. how can i do it?
[06:24] <fuk> k
[06:24] <fuk> thanks
[06:25] <ConstyXIV> aalhamad: system -> prefs -> prefered applications
[06:25] <aalhamad> ok thanks
[06:26] <aalhamad> WOW.. i guess everything was thought of..
[06:26] <ConstyXIV> aalhamad: ?
[06:26] <aalhamad> thanks
[06:26] <ConstyXIV> no problem
[06:28] <Wanderer> Anyone know why I can't connect to /dev/ttyS0 using "cu" to get to the serial console of another machien?  cu keeps reporting the line (ttyS0) is in use, but lsof doesn't show it in use and it's commented out of inittab
[06:28] <finalbeta> Hmm, so I just found out simply running Rhythmbox destroys music tags.
[06:29] <usuario> wapo
[06:29] <usuario> wapo
[06:29] <ubuntu11> how to install ATI RADEON 9200SE
[06:29] <usuario> usuario
[06:29] <usuario> usuario
[06:29] <usuario> usuario
[06:30] <usuario> usuario
[06:32] <holycow> bah
[06:32] <holycow> sudo don't work on dapper
[06:32] <holycow> damn
[06:32] <AlexC_> holycow: yes it does,
[06:32] <ConstyXIV> holycow: thats bad
[06:32] <LjL> holycow, define doesn't work...
[06:32] <holycow> i wish, i can't give a user sudo access to specific binaries ... all/all works fine but not specific
[06:33] <LjL> i see
[06:33] <holycow> two separate machines
[06:33] <danny> How do I get non-free/unstable packages available with KDE's Adept?
[06:33] <ubuntu11> I have ATI RADEON 9200SE need help to install
[06:33] <T-ROK> i dont get it guys
[06:33] <ConstyXIV> wouldnt we be talking about setuid root here?
[06:33] <T-ROK> i cant figure out how to do fixmrbr
[06:33] <T-ROK> *fixmbr
[06:33] <nothlit> T-ROK: load winxp recovery, and type that in
[06:33] <ConstyXIV> T-ROK: what's it do?
[06:33] <yomm> How do I change the default terminal in Ubuntu 6.10 ? I'd like to use a custom rxvt-terminal instead of Xterm !!
[06:34] <T-ROK> you can't type anything in though
[06:34] <nothlit> !repos | danny
[06:34] <ubotu> danny: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:34] <LjL> ConstyXIV: well, not really, sudo can supposedly give users selective root privileges on certain programs only. more flexible than setuid in theory
[06:34] <T-ROK> it brings me to a new screen
[06:34] <nothlit> T-ROK: make sure you loaded the install disk and chose recovery mode
[06:34] <T-ROK> where it backs up all my files and reinstlls the os
[06:34] <kitche> T-ROK: you must be using a recovery disk then
[06:34] <nothlit> T-ROK: and go through all of it until you get to the console
[06:34] <Julianna_1> HI ALL
[06:34] <T-ROK> can i just go through my hard drive and delete it from windows?
[06:34] <ConstyXIV> T-ROK: recovery cosole just gives you a dosish prompt
[06:35] <Julianna_1> EXOTICS ADULT FORUM ::::::::::::::: http://exotics.ezbbforum.com
[06:35] <T-ROK> oh
[06:35] <T-ROK> ok
[06:35] <T-ROK> so i have to let it do all of that?
[06:35] <T-ROK> and theres no way i can just delete grub from within windows?
[06:35] <jatt> uh?
[06:35] <ConstyXIV> T-ROK: is this a recovery disk that came with your machine?
[06:35] <hjmills> when upgrading a package does it download the whole thing or just the diffs for each changed file?
[06:35] <T-ROK> yeah when i first booted it i had to burn it off
[06:36] <holycow> AlexC_, are you able to give sudo priviledges to say a single user (desktop profile) to admin network-admin or time-admin?
[06:36] <ConstyXIV> T-ROK: yeah, thats your problem
[06:36] <nothlit> T-ROK: you need the install disk
[06:36] <T-ROK> oh
[06:36] <T-ROK> uhhhhh
[06:36] <ConstyXIV> T-ROK: it needs to be a win2k or winxp instal disc
[06:36] <hjmills> T-ROK, what you trying to do? sounds like an xp prob
[06:36] <T-ROK> well
[06:36] <ConstyXIV> hjmills: it is, we know
[06:36] <T-ROK> i have a xp home edition install disc
[06:36] <T-ROK> will it work
[06:36] <ConstyXIV> T-ROK: yes
[06:36] <T-ROK> im running media center which is on xp pro i tihnk
[06:36] <T-ROK> so that will work then?
[06:37] <ConstyXIV> T-ROK: it doesnt matter which, so yes
[06:37] <T-ROK> ok cool
[06:37] <T-ROK> off to try that now i guess
[06:37] <hjmills> ConstyXIV, just wondering if I can help or do you have it covered in which case i dont want to confuse anybody by attempting
[06:37] <ConstyXIV> T-ROK: put it in, "press any key", press R
[06:37] <AlexC_> holycow: honestly no idea - maybe you could create a new group, and then set the permissions for network-admin and time-admin so only that group can access them?
[06:37] <T-ROK> ok
[06:37] <ConstyXIV> T-ROK: when it asks to setup
[06:37] <T-ROK> be back in a bit then
[06:37] <holycow> AlexC_, i'm trying to avoid that, unfortunately i will haveto
[06:37] <ConstyXIV> hjmills: we have it under ctrl
[06:38] <hjmills> ConstyXIV, oh ok - have fun then - im off to repair a brand new xp install :D
[06:38] <hjmills> when upgrading a package does it download the whole thing or just the diffs for each changed file?
[06:38] <AlexC_> holycow: I don't think there is any other way, because afaik - it just allows you to login as root and run commands, if that's how sudo works - havn't really looked into it tbh
[06:38] <ConstyXIV> hjmills: the whole thing
[06:38] <LjL> hjmills: whole thing
[06:38] <AlexC_> hjmills: afaik, the entire file
[06:38] <holycow> AlexC_, its supposed, but it looks like its broke in dapper ... trying to confirm before i post to malone
[06:38] <hjmills> isnt that a bit silly for large packages like open office?
[06:39] <ConstyXIV> hjmills: yes
[06:39] <LjL> hjmills: recently, a feature was added to APT whereby, when you *update* (not upgrade), only the diffs of the package *lists* are downloaded. however, nothing like that is implemented for the packages themselves
[06:39] <Ellixis> Hi all
[06:39] <hjmills> LjL, oh ok - moving in the right direction then
[06:39] <hjmills> Ellixis, hi!
[06:39] <ConstyXIV> i really think we need to re-gear apt to run over bittorrent
[06:39] <LjL> ConstyXIV: google apt-torrent, it's there
[06:40] <LjL> just not used by default by anyone i suppose
[06:40] <hjmills> ConstyXIV, but that would suck if nobody else was sharing a particular file
[06:40] <sdac221x> LjL:  one more question please... i installed java 1.5 jdk through automatix.  it isnt in /usr/lib/ or /usr/bin.   how can i find out if i don't have the package name in this case ?   (i need the install path so i can set the JAVA_HOME path)
[06:40] <Ellixis> I have a dedicated server with Debian Sarge installed.... but I want to migrate to Ubuntu, is it safe to change /etc/apt/sources.list to ubuntu repository & dist-upgrade ?
[06:40] <ConstyXIV> LjL: it should be default for us, but keep the traditional repos around
[06:40] <mnoir> Ellixis: no
[06:40] <hjmills> sdac221x, which <package name> should do it
[06:40] <ConstyXIV> reverse slashdotting whenever there's a major update
[06:41] <Hoosteen> Howdy peeps!
[06:41] <sdac221x> hjmills:   i don't know package name cos i installed SDK through Automatix.
[06:41] <LjL> sdac221x: the package name is probably sun-java5-jdk
[06:41] <LjL> !automatix
[06:41] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[06:41] <Ellixis> mnoir: how can I accomplish that knowing that I don't have physical access to the dedicated server... ?
[06:41] <kitche> sdac221x: itmight be in /opt
[06:41] <hjmills> sdac221x, yuck - check the automatix site
[06:42] <Hoosteen> super duper new user to linux here...hehe
[06:42] <mnoir> Ellixis: install an os on a server you cannot put your hands on?  I have no idea
[06:43] <ConstyXIV> has he installed it already?
[06:43] <Ellixis> mnoir: However, the hosting provider has a netboot rescue system... can I netinstall Ubuntu from there?
[06:44] <hjmills> Ellixis, i guess you could try removing all but the very basics and changing the repos and installing ubuntu-minimal but it may probably will break your server so u have to reinstall
[06:45] <nothlit> oh the fancy way of installing an os on a server with no physical access, is you use swap and play around in there
[06:45] <pv2b> i'm messing about iwth the ubuntu live cd on a powerbook g4 and am having issues with the touchpad. i've tweaked the settings a bit to get it almost to be usable, but still, it seems the touchpad requires a lot of pressure to activate. how could i fix that?
[06:45] <nothlit> pv2b: .? touchpads aren't pressure sensitive
[06:45] <Ellixis> The hosting provider only proposes Debian as OS... and I can web-reinstall the OS via my account
[06:46] <variant> Ellixis: how much swap space is there?
[06:46] <variant> Ellixis: free -m will tell you
[06:46] <Ellixis> variant: 1GB
[06:46] <variant> Ellixis: thats plenty
[06:47] <pv2b> nothlit: yes they are.
[06:47] <variant> Ellixis: you can install to that via ssh then once your booted into it you can isntall again to the main partitiosn
[06:47] <variant> Ellixis: is it a virtual host?
[06:47] <Lars_G> Hey all
[06:47] <nothlit> pv2b: rofl, ok.
[06:47] <pv2b> nothlit: run windows some day, and install synaptic's crappy driver tray thingy. and notice how the tray indicates the amount of pressure put on the touchpad
[06:47] <Ellixis> variant: no, a dedicated server (http://www.ovh.com/fr/produits/superplan2007.xml). It's a French Hosting Provider
[06:47] <nothlit> pv2b: that isn't pressure, its how much contact
[06:48] <variant> Ellixis: yeah should be no problem doing that. it's not as hard as it sounds, i have installed gentoo via ssh many a time
[06:48] <Lars_G> question, is there any extra package I must / can install if I want to add myself the ability to define colors for gnome inside gnome-control-center ? or will I have to either use a theme forcefully or edit configs by hand?
[06:48] <pv2b> nothlit: same difference, even the synaptic client refers to it as pressure :-)
[06:48] <pv2b> s/client/driver/
[06:48] <Ellixis> variant: cool, what are the differents steps that I should take ?
[06:48] <variant> !install | Ellixis
[06:48] <ubotu> Ellixis: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[06:49] <Lars_G> please?
[06:49] <variant> Ellixis: I't a bit mucht to go thouugh in an irc conversation. I never installed ubuntut hat way (just gentoo and slack) but i have heard of people doing it
[06:49] <variant> Lars_G: dunno
[06:49] <wmn> hi can pdf viewed in emacs?
[06:49] <DDigi> i just got that feeling when something is really pissing you off and u start to get down then u just figure it out
[06:49] <Lars_G> variant: Thanks :) it's good to know I was read
[06:50] <Ellixis> ubotu: thanks for the link :)
[06:50] <DDigi> Yess!!!
[06:50] <meubeukeu> ola !
[06:50] <Lars_G> DDigi: The wall is not the culpright :) what's troubling you?
[06:50] <Lars_G> meubeukeu: Hi.
[06:50] <danho> please help with this error "libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b", when I start run any 3d program, like glxgears, winecfg
[06:50] <DDigi> hahah
[06:50] <meubeukeu> c'est cool c'est rgl sont problme d'usb :)
[06:50] <Lars_G> !fr
[06:50] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:50] <riotkittie> !fr | meubeukeu
[06:50] <ubotu> meubeukeu: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:51] <meubeukeu> oups sorry !
[06:51] <danho> please help with this error "libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b", when I start run any 3d program, like glxgears, winecfg
[06:51] <kitche> danho: that's not an error
[06:51] <danho> what's that ?
[06:51] <meubeukeu> bye bye :)
[06:51] <meubeukeu> exit
[06:51] <DDigi> Lars_G: all it was finding the exacutable and reinstalling windows installer
[06:51] <danho> this makes me can not run winecfg correctly.
[06:51] <wmn> how can i view pdf in emacs?
[06:51] <kitche> danho: it can also be ignored what card do you have though
[06:51] <kishore> how to install sun-java and setting path in ubuntu
[06:51] <danho> but, there is just have nothing shown when i run winecfg.
[06:52] <danho> only a frame
[06:52] <DDigi> Lars_G: so i can get my dellPC ethernet device working hook it up with my lappi wich is runin gentii linux and download a new kernel
[06:52] <Stormx2> danho: I get the same error and winecfg runs fine for me...
[06:52] <kishore> help?
[06:52] <Stormx2> danho: Sounds like a bad wine install
[06:52] <danho> o.
[06:52] <Lars_G> DDigi: You're using the windows based installer? let me know how it goes. I never used it
[06:52] <DDigi> woooo
[06:52] <Stormx2> danho: opengl doesn't have anything to do with the problem you're describing
[06:52] <DDigi> Iv done it
[06:52] <amphacid_> hi
[06:52] <ConstyXIV> is there a halfway decent groupware suite (ie. outlook+exchange) that runs in linux?
[06:53] <danho> well,  if i running beryl on xgl
[06:53] <danho> winecfg running well
[06:53] <Lars_G> ConstyXIV: There are some, all based around OpenLDAP
[06:53] <danho> without that warning.
[06:53] <Stormx2> ConstyXIV: You doing research for a slashdot comment?
[06:53] <DDigi> ill be back
[06:53] <danho> but it's extreamly slow
[06:53] <daviey> is it possible to have two ip address?  if so how?
[06:53] <ConstyXIV> Stormx2: no
[06:53] <T-ROK> it didnt work
[06:53] <Lars_G> ConstyXIV: But so far I've seen them as part of a full distro, not independent. Like CentOS or a special OpenExchange by Suse
[06:53] <T-ROK> it didnt do anything
[06:53] <Stormx2> daviey: External IPs or LAN IPs?
[06:53] <SecrethX> !home
[06:53] <kitche> Stormx2, danho: also that's not a error anyways just a warning it's due to the driver your using can't do something usually it's duet o the open source ati driver or the ati driver binary.
[06:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about home - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:53] <ChrisGo> install a webserver with php and add a package that required sun jdk 5 would ubuntu be easy to use?
[06:53] <danny> Hi, just a short question: does the idea of installing Gnome 2.16 on Dapper 6.06 LTS sound good? or is there a 99% chance of trashing the system
[06:53] <SecrethX> hmn
[06:54] <SecrethX> someone know the wiki page of installing /home on another partition?
[06:54] <Stormx2> daviey: Chances are not, your ISP dishes out your IP based on your connection to em (login details, etc)
[06:54] <daviey> Stormx2, lan ip
[06:54] <Stormx2> SecrethX: Have you already installed ubuntu?
[06:54] <willys_fueguino> SecrethX: you need a wiki or just help with that?
[06:54] <SecrethX> Stormx2: not yet
[06:54] <Stormx2> SecrethX; Its easy then
[06:54] <kitche> daviey: you can set up a virtual device for a card to have that card have two ips inside the lan
[06:54] <SecrethX> willys_fueguino: one of both :P
[06:54] <T-ROK> ConstyXIV: I typed in fixmrb and it did nothing i typed it in wrong(fix mrb) and it said its not a valid comand
[06:54] <Stormx2> SecrethX: You're using the LiveCD yeah
[06:54] <jam> hey is there a reason why in windows my cpu usage was ~10% but in linux the cpu desklet jumps between 0 and 100 all the time?
[06:54] <Stormx2> ?
[06:54] <daviey> kitche, how?
[06:54] <SecrethX> Stormx2: yes
[06:55] <ConstyXIV> SecrethX: manual part
[06:55] <Stormx2> jam: It may be calculating wrong
[06:55] <ConstyXIV> T-ROK: fixmbr, not fixrmb
[06:55] <Moniker42> how do i uninstall quake 4?
[06:55] <Stormx2> SecrethX: When you're making partitions, go to the 'custom' bit (can't remember the exact wording)
[06:55] <T-ROK> oh thats what i mean
[06:55] <jam> also how can I get to the panel config in gnome?
[06:55] <SecrethX> Stormx2:
[06:55] <jam> I usually right click on the panel but its full
[06:55] <Stormx2> SecrethX: Create another partition. Then on the next bit, set the mount point as /home. Its pretty straightforward
[06:55] <SecrethX> ill see :)
[06:55] <Moniker42> how do i uninstall quake 4?
[06:55] <T-ROK> i typed it in right cause i read it off a paper
[06:55] <willys_fueguino> Stormx2: Edit custom partitions I think
[06:55] <riotkittie> duuuuude.  if your windows cpu usage was  a consistant ~10%...
[06:56] <SecrethX> Stormx2: oh, is that the only thing? :o
[06:56] <T-ROK> and it would have said invalid comand if it was wrong right?
[06:56] <daviey> kitche, how can i make a virtual device?
[06:56] <T-ROK> is there any other way to fix it
[06:56] <daviey> kitche, oh wait - it won't work :9
[06:56] <noiano> hello
[06:56] <AlexC_> hey,
[06:56] <SecrethX> Stormx2: thanks.. see you in an hour if it worked :D
[06:56] <noiano> !easysources
[06:56] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:56] <ConstyXIV> T-ROK: wait... (researching
[06:56] <Stormx2> jam: Move some stuff from the very left right a little, then right click the area
[06:56] <T-ROK> ok
[06:56] <kitche> daviey: ok :) but why not?
[06:57] <holycow> allright let me turn this question around :)
[06:57] <shwag> noiano: dont know who that was for, but personally I just grab the sources list from ubuntuguide
[06:57] <ConstyXIV> T-ROK: fixmbr /Device/HardDisk0
[06:57] <ryanakca> why won't my ubuntu 6.06 server CD boot? it's set up in the BIOS... cd-rw... at boot it says something like: Boot from ATAPI-CDROM: Failure...
[06:57] <noiano> shwag: i just wanted to find a repo for wine
[06:57] <holycow> when setting up regular users with say the desktop profile, how do you guys just give the users permission to change ONLY time and network settings?
[06:57] <daviey> kitche, it's because i have a device that is a bugbear to configure (SNMP) and it wants to log on to one ip and i want it to point somewhere else.  Thought it might be easyier to change ip addy's
[06:57] <padlefot> my first crash
[06:57] <ubuntu11> I need help how to install my driver ati radeon 9200Se
[06:57] <padlefot> goddamn
[06:57] <ubuntu11> ?
[06:57] <Stormx2> shwag: source-o-matic is an excellent piece of software....
[06:57] <Cybercod> can someone tell me what "UNCLAIMED"  means ? my modem is showing up as "UNCLAIMED"
[06:57] <T-ROK> exactly like that
[06:57] <Stormx2> !ati | ubuntu11
[06:57] <ubotu> ubuntu11: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:57] <shwag> noiano: I dont drink alchohol
[06:57] <noiano> on the "official repos" i always find outdated packages
[06:57] <T-ROK> with spaces and the same number
[06:58] <ConstyXIV> T-ROK: yes
[06:58] <Stormx2> ryanakca: Bad burn, bad iso, etc
[06:58] <noiano> shwag: i do not undestand
[06:58] <ConstyXIV> verbatim
[06:58] <Stormx2> !verify | ryanakca
[06:58] <kitche> daviey: http://handsonhowto.com/virt.html just in case that tells you how to have a eth0:1 and such
[06:58] <ubotu> ryanakca: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[06:58] <Ellixis> And is there any way to migrate from a 32bits system to a 64 bits one ?
[06:58] <mindstate> !p2p
[06:58] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[06:58] <kitche> noiano: winehq.com use their repo for wine
[06:58] <daviey> kitche, thanks
[06:58] <shwag> beryl has some pretty good install docs for video drivers too
[06:58] <T-ROK> ok off to try it again lol
[06:58] <jracicot> is it possible to play music from an ipod in linux?
[06:58] <seravitae> is there anything i should do to make sure programs use my second core on my cpu
[06:58] <noiano> kitche: i didn't know
[06:58] <ConstyXIV> jracicot: es
[06:59] <pv2b> seravitae: as a user, there's not much you can do.
[06:59] <ConstyXIV> jracicot: yes
[06:59] <seravitae> pv2b: true. :)
[06:59] <pv2b> seravitae: except for some special cases.
[06:59] <AlexC_> seravitae: afaik, the program has to be coded to use multiple cores
[06:59] <pierrelourens> what's the path to the xorg.conf file?
[06:59] <kota> I tried to locate the plugin to play mp3's But i failed miserablly.
[06:59] <jracicot> ConstyXIV: which prgm do i use?
[06:59] <pv2b> seravitae: can you be more specific?
[06:59] <seravitae> you mean it has to be a multithreaded application
[06:59] <kota> :(
[06:59] <seravitae> yeah, i dig that.
[06:59] <AlexC_> pierrelourens: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:59] <kota> can someone help me out?
[06:59] <Stormx2> pierrelourens: In future, try "locate filename"
[06:59] <pv2b> seravitae: yeah, exactly.
[06:59] <pierrelourens> AlexC: thanks
[06:59] <AlexC_> !help | kota
[06:59] <ubotu> kota: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:59] <ConstyXIV> jracicot: rythymbox (included) or banshee (universe)
[06:59] <seravitae> pv2b: oh, well, i did CC with multithreading and it works fine
[06:59] <kitche> noiano: http://winehq.com/site/download-deb
[06:59] <seravitae> but yeah. just wondering if there were any magic options i should be using for anything else heh.
[06:59] <Cybercod> can someone tell me what "UNCLAIMED"  means ? my modem is showing up as "UNCLAIMED" in lshw
[06:59] <noiano> kitche: thanks!
[06:59] <AlexC_> kota how can we help if you ask no question?
[06:59] <pv2b> seravitae: well, yeah, youll want to give a -j option to make.
[06:59] <pierrelourens> AlexC: any reason why it should be blank (on a fresh install)
[07:00] <ConstyXIV> jracicot: i recomend banshee
[07:00] <kota> lol.
[07:00] <pv2b> seravitae: unless gcc itself has multithreading now.
[07:00] <kota> How do you play mp3's
[07:00] <seravitae> pv2b: i feed it -j.
[07:00] <synic> jracicot: Exaile !  http://www.exaile.org
[07:00] <jracicot> ConstyXIV:  i just tried rythymbox but none of the files would play, i would click on them to play but the songs just cycle through giving an error each time one tries to play
[07:00] <AlexC_> !mp3 | kota
[07:00] <ubotu> kota: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:00] <seravitae> pv2b: just wondering if there's any other software out there that does multithreading that i should know about
[07:00] <pv2b> seravitae: great. anything else specifically you need to run on multiple cores?
[07:00] <AlexC_> pierrelourens: yes, you did the wrong directory
[07:00] <Stormx2> !ipod | jracicot
[07:00] <seravitae> pv2b: not really
[07:00] <ubotu> jracicot: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[07:00] <AlexC_> or i got it wrong :P
[07:00] <pv2b> seravitae: well, as i said, that's a very open-ended question that's difficult to answer properly.
[07:00] <kota> Ive already located all that information from the help file.
[07:01] <ConstyXIV> jracicot: have you installed mp3 coedecs yet?
[07:01] <kota> >.>
[07:01] <kota> that didnt help me.
[07:01] <AlexC_> pierrelourens: /etx/X11/xorg.conf is _not_ the same as /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[07:01] <seravitae> pv2b: yeah, true.
[07:01] <falfool> Anyone free to help me with a video issue please? I've been trying to fix it for over 8 hours, it's really getting to me!
[07:01] <jracicot> ConstyXIV: i dont think so, how do i do that?
[07:01] <AlexC_> falfool: ask your question
[07:01] <ConstyXIV> !mp3 | jracicot
[07:01] <ubotu> jracicot: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:01] <AlexC_> falfool: don't ask to ask, or ask if anyone can help when you ask no question.
[07:01] <DaveR> hi, is there a way to just install xubuntu instead of booting into the live disk as it seems to struggle to open the install window (even tho it opens the example folder and stuff fine).  i have checked the disk and it is fine.
[07:01] <pv2b> seravitae: basically, even simple programs will benifit from multithreading to some extent, beucase background applications can run on one core, dedicating another core 100% to your tast.
[07:01] <pv2b> task.
[07:01] <seravitae> pv2b: perhaps i should rephrase it to, "i have enabled smps support for dual core. with common applications in ubuntu are there any options that i should be changing to enable smps support, that you are aware about'
[07:01] <AlexC_> DaveR: download the alternate CD
[07:02] <Stormx2> DaveR: Have you given it a minute or two? It can be slow. Depends on your disk drive / system specs
[07:02] <seravitae> pv2b: if one of my cores fills up, will single-thread tasks simply stack onto the second core?
[07:02] <jracicot> ConstyXIV: i type that in the terminal?
[07:02] <jracicot> ubotu:thanks ill check them out
[07:02] <ConstyXIV> jracicot: yes
[07:02] <DaveR> Stormx2: I have given it 20-30 minutes
[07:02] <pv2b> seravitae: the scheduler tries to distribute load over the cores in the most efficient manner
[07:02] <ferret_0567__> I am wondering why the swap usage seems so high in relation to the used RAM in my system...
[07:02] <AlexC_> jracicot: Ubotu is a bot, hehe-  he's not human, no need to say thanks to him :P
[07:02] <Stormx2> DaveR: Ah. I wonder what the issue may be then
[07:02] <ConstyXIV> jracicot: follow uboutu
[07:02] <jracicot> ConstyXIV: k, one sec
[07:02] <kitche> seravitae: applicatiosn will use smp when you have a smp kernel nothing to do with applications really since that stuff is handled by the kernel
[07:03] <kitche> !thanks|jracicot
[07:03] <ubotu> jracicot: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[07:03] <seravitae> pv2b: cool, then i guess there's nothing for me to worry about. :)
[07:03] <Stormx2> jracicot: You're talking to a bot ;)
[07:03] <jracicot> thats one smart bot ;)
[07:03] <yomm> lol
[07:03] <falfool> I've apparently messed up my nVidia drivers trying to update for the latest version, I can't get anything to work now. The system says there's an API mismatch between the kernel module and the one I'm trying to install, I tried removing linux-headers, linux-restricted-modules, linux-386, nvidia-glx, nothing seems to work!
[07:03] <pv2b> seravitae: well, unless you're setting up some kind of batch computation job
[07:03] <ConstyXIV> !ubotu | jracicot
[07:03] <ubotu> jracicot: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:03] <pv2b> seravitae: but as for typical user applications, either they're optimised for multi-core or they're not
[07:04] <DaveR> Stormx2: I ain't sure, i will just download the alternate install.  i think it might be the disk drive on it is a little old so probably struggling to read the data quick enough.  combined with 128mb ram i ain't suprised.
[07:04] <seravitae> pv2b: yup.
[07:04] <ConstyXIV> jracicot: you just type !foo, with foo being what you want to know
[07:04] <Stormx2> falfool: Removing the nvidia-glx package won't do anything unless you reinstall the package it replaced
[07:04] <pv2b> seravitae: make is the only program i can think of, from a user perspective, that you need to set up to use multiple cores efficiently.
[07:04] <jracicot> !mp3 | jracicot
[07:04] <ubotu> jracicot: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:04] <falfool> I reinstalled, removed, reinstalled, all in vain!
[07:05] <AlexC_> pv2b: I've often wondered why the author of the program should have to code for multi-core, and why can't the kernel handle it it's self? IE, it decides which core(s) to use for a program?
[07:05] <yomm> falfool you need to build the lasest nvid driver with the linux-headers_your_kernel
[07:05] <Stormx2> DaveR: Ah. Well if you're in an investigative mood, pop open a terminal, cd to Desktop and run the installer from the command line (it'll still open as GUI) and see if it gives any errors..
[07:05] <ConstyXIV> jracicot: you dont need to pipe ubotu to yourself unless you like the warm fuzzy feeling
[07:05] <jevangelo> what is the name of that small utility that converts .bin/.cue to .iso
[07:05] <yomm> *latest
[07:05] <Stormx2> DaveR: It may just be that its slow. If you can't be bothered to checked or whatever, just get the alternate CD
[07:05] <seravitae> pv2b: yup.
[07:05] <Hacim07> Hi I just uppgraded dapper->edgy alt-cd and I'm having a couple issuse.
[07:05] <pv2b> AlexC_: because if the application is written that all the operations are on a single thread, there's not much the kernel could do
[07:05] <seravitae> Cool, super_pi to 1M on both cores for 25 seconds. that's nice.
[07:05] <yomm> jeva : something with chunk or chung
[07:05] <Stormx2> jracicot: Please /msg ubotu factoid. Don't investigate the bot in the channel
[07:06] <yomm> tjeva : I always forget too :)
[07:06] <pv2b> AlexC_: you can't take a program that's not designed to run concurrently and run it concurrently, because the program may depend on the exact order of operations being performed
[07:06] <AlexC_> pv2b: but that's what I mean - why should it be up the the author of the program to decide how many cores to use? It should really be up to the kernel I think
[07:06] <jracicot> i have no clue what these commands mean, how am i supposed to know that im talking to a bot?
[07:06] <Stormx2> Hacim07: Tell us what they are ;)
[07:06] <jracicot> until you all told me
[07:06] <jevangelo> anyone know what im talking about?
[07:06] <pv2b> AlexC_: it's not up to the author of the program to decide how many cores to use
[07:06] <Stormx2> jracicot: ubotu is a bot. Practically every other user in the channel is human
[07:06] <pv2b> AlexC_: all the program author does is spawn so and so many threads, and the kernel decides which cores are used and how many
[07:06] <Hacim07> when I restart it just nothing unual
[07:06] <kota> kotas a bot
[07:06] <kota> ;x
[07:07] <jracicot> k, ill remember that for next time
[07:07] <ConstyXIV> jracicot: ubotu is the name of a bot, an other people just sound like bots sometimes
[07:07] <AlexC_> pv2b: I see,
[07:07] <jracicot> while im here, does anyone know how to set up an ad-hoc network broadcast?
[07:07] <Stormx2> ConstyXIV: Does not compute
[07:07] <Stormx2> =)
[07:07] <ConstyXIV> not a clue
[07:07] <Hacim07> until it seems to be finish and then the screen goes black
[07:07] <przemek> witam
[07:07] <przemek> jest tu ktos
[07:07] <kota> Kota can do algebreic expressions in under 3 minutes, thats a good damn bot right there.
[07:07] <Hacim07> does not do anything so I press restart
[07:07] <kota> ;x
[07:07] <yomm> jeva : there's mdf2iso
[07:08] <Stormx2> Hacim07: Theres a key you can press to see the boot process... It sounds like X is failing, but doesn't realise it is.
[07:08] <przemek> Poland ?
[07:08] <Stormx2> !pl | przemek
[07:08] <pv2b> AlexC_: some toolkits, such as the version of cocoa that's arriving in Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard can actually be called asynchronously, so program authors don't need to do anything but still get a lot of GUI code moved to a seperate thread
[07:08] <ubotu> przemek: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[07:08] <marky-b> hey. i just setup ubuntu and when logging in for the first time, its asking for a user/pass, and i only remember creating a pass. i've tried 'root' for the user, but couldnt get in. any suggestions?
[07:08] <ConstyXIV> marky-b: try your first name
[07:08] <ConstyXIV> that you put in
[07:08] <Stormx2> marky-b: Woh, hold on there
[07:09] <Hacim07> what key is that?
[07:09] <riotkittie> marky-b: boot in recovery mode, and then ls /home/
[07:09] <Stormx2> marky-b: You will have created a username. Ubuntu has root disabled by default.
[07:09] <Stormx2> marky-b: Just think. Maybe its mark? marky?
[07:09] <erUSUL> marky-b: maybe you instaled in oem mode?
[07:09] <riotkittie> markzilla
[07:09] <pv2b> anyway. again. is there anything i might be missing? i'm messing with ubuntu on a powerbook g4, and i can't get the synaptics driver to be sensitive enough. i keep having to apply more pressure than should be neccessary to move the cursor.
[07:09] <marky-b> well, i never setup a name either... hmm
[07:09] <erUSUL> !oem | marky-b
[07:09] <riotkittie> marktheforgetfulone
[07:09] <ubotu> marky-b: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[07:09] <ConstyXIV> marky-b: or it's ubuntu or oem
[07:09] <marky-b> ty i'll take a look :)
[07:10] <jracicot> im importing the songs from my ipod to banshee, does that mean they are now on my hard drive? i dont want them on my harddrive, i just wanna play them from the ipod to save disk space
[07:10] <Hacim07> also when I restart, after what seems to be the end it shows black screen and a bunch of IO errors with hda1 or something.
[07:11] <ConstyXIV> jracicot: have you actually copied them over or just hit play?
[07:11] <Stormx2> jracicot: Probably means its just importing info on them, but I don't know...
[07:11] <jracicot> its not done yet so i cant do anything
[07:11] <jracicot> it just did it automatically
[07:11] <jevangelo> what is the name of the tool that takes bin or cue files and puts them as iso fles
[07:11] <ConstyXIV> jracicot: do they show up in music library, then probably yes
[07:12] <DaveR> Stormx2: I am just lazy :P (plus too scared and uneducated to mess with the command lines.
[07:12] <erUSUL> !info bchunk
[07:12] <ubotu> bchunk: CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-1 (edgy), package size 12 kB, installed size 68 kB
[07:12] <riotkittie> im clueless, being one of few ipodless people on the planet :<
[07:12] <ryanakca> Stormx2: everything matches. still can't boot
[07:12] <jannu1> somebody knows good adveture game, that girl can play ?
[07:12] <jracicot> ConstyXIV: for some reason 106 showed up in the music library but the rest stayed on the ipod
[07:12] <jannu1> and pad support would be plus
[07:13] <kota> girls?
[07:13] <ryanakca> jannu1: apt-cache search game                              # that'll give you a list of all the games :)
[07:13] <kota> Where?
[07:13] <kota> lol.
[07:13] <ryanakca> kota: lol
[07:13] <Stormx2> ryanakca: Burn the CD at a slower speed?
[07:13] <jannu1> omg
[07:13] <ryanakca> Stormx2: kk, I'll try :)
[07:13] <ryanakca> jannu1: if not... umm... I believe synaptic has a category for games :)
[07:14] <kota> "girls dont get on the interwebz, They are to busy out getting guys who arent socially unacceptable"
[07:14] <Stormx2> ryanakca: What speed did you burn it at before?
[07:14] <jannu1> ill check :>
[07:14] <jracicot> ConstyXIV: and it says i need to install the right plugins to play the files, where do i get those?
[07:14] <Stormx2> ryanakca: As a rule, I never burn above 10x
[07:14] <riotkittie> oh. my. god.
[07:14] <ryanakca> Stormx2: kk
[07:15] <Stormx2> Ima see if I can get Mac OSX installed now. See what all the fuss is aboot.
[07:16] <kota> I would so instal windows back.
[07:16] <kota> but its not working.
[07:16] <kota> So im just gonna deal with linux.
[07:16] <jracicot> Stormx2: do you know how to install the right pugins on banshee so that i can play music from my ipod?
[07:16] <kota> and its "anti-mp3" ways.
[07:16] <riotkittie> er.
[07:17] <holycow> bah!
[07:17] <ad> is it normal that azureus keeps acting funny
[07:17] <tovella> kota: MS Windows is really only good for playing games, anyway.
[07:17] <kota> Of course.
[07:17] <kota> Im not really a gamer though.
[07:17] <Hacim07> Storm2x what was this key mentioned?
[07:17] <T-ROK> still nothing
[07:17] <kota> Im more of a metal-dicology-downloader
[07:17] <Stormx2> jracicot: I really don't know. Have you had a look at ubuntuforums.org? theres bound to be guides...
[07:18] <holycow> how do you stop the network manager applet from trying to autoconnect to the last connected wireless network on a restart?  turning off wireless and turning off network doesn't prevent this
[07:18] <kota> so i can listen to it on my mp3
[07:18] <T-ROK> can i find the grub installer on my C:/ drive and just delete it?
[07:18] <mamzers555> hello, how to start thunderbird in debug-mode?
[07:18] <jracicot> Stormx2: k ill check
[07:18] <Stormx2> Hacim07: I really have no idea...
[07:18] <holycow> damn i love ubuntu but there are a hell of a lot of show stoppers
[07:18] <kota> that and getting on pedofile chats in mirc when im bored.  Cus them pedo's know how to cary on a conversation.
[07:18] <KennyR> good morning holycow.
[07:18] <Stormx2> Hacim07: Run an advanced search. Look up ipod. Look in tutorials and tips.
[07:18] <tovella> kota: then GNU/Linux should be perfect for you.
[07:18] <Stormx2> holycow: Like?
[07:19] <kota> But, I cant fingure out to do all this mp3 crap.
[07:19] <tovella> kota: 'cause YOU'RE not a gamer.
[07:19] <Hacim07> Storm2x: why ipod?
[07:19] <kota> Lol.
[07:19] <kota> Im too poor to be a gamer.
[07:19] <Stormx2> holycow: Whats the problem with the mp3s?
[07:19] <ad> T-ROK: then you wouldn't have any master boot record, and you can't boot anything
[07:19] <holycow> like sudo not working and network manager insisting on reconnecting to wireless networks even if you turn it off on reboot
[07:19] <_archangel> whats the command to chekc what video card you have ?
[07:19] <tovella> kota: ditto.
[07:19] <riotkittie> dude. just install the mp3 codecs. not hard.
[07:19] <Stormx2> kota: You're never too poor to use thepiratebay
[07:19] <ad> T-ROK: that's if it's possible at all
[07:19] <KennyR> lmao @ kota.. it really is an expensive habbit isnt it??
[07:19] <holycow> Stormx2, mp3s? oh you got the wrong dude
[07:19] <Stormx2> Bah
[07:19] <T-ROK> well what can i do
[07:19] <erUSUL> _archangel: lspci | grep VGA
[07:19] <Stormx2> I meant kota
[07:19] <kota> Lol, yes it is.
[07:19] <_archangel> ty
[07:19] <T-ROK> i just want this to boot normaly again
[07:19] <HymnToLife> _archangel, lspci | grep VGA
[07:19] <ad> kota: don't buy games, download
[07:19] <HymnToLife> ow, too slow :(
[07:20] <kota> Well, I downloaded diablo 2.
[07:20] <kota> Got in trouble for it.
[07:20] <kota> almost lost my cable.
[07:20] <KennyR> isnt ubuntu like 100% free, or thats how they beleive.. or something..
[07:20] <ad> no, i mean free games
[07:20] <riotkittie> yes. download. because its not like developers deserve compensation.
[07:20] <ad> there are some laying around
[07:20] <ad> like nexuz
[07:20] <KennyR> so ubuntu has tons of free games..
[07:20] <idefix> do you often read other people's blogs?
[07:20] <ad> and neverball
[07:20] <tovella> kota: you can do mp3 stuff with Ubuntu and many other Linuxes
[07:20] <riotkittie> oh, and stop promoting piracy here.
[07:20] <Stormx2> KennyR: Yeah. By default its 100% free as in freedom. You can still install free (as in beer) codecs/drivers, etc.
[07:20] <kota> i cant figure out where to download the mp3 stuff.
[07:20] <kota> :(
[07:20] <mamzers555> hello, how to start thunderbird in debug-mode?
[07:20] <tonyyarusso> !mp3 | kota
[07:20] <ubotu> kota: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:20] <T-ROK> if i restore to before i installed ubuntu will it get rid of the grub installer?
[07:20] <HymnToLife> !mp3 | kota
[07:21] <kota> Gah, that never really helped
[07:21] <KennyR> tovella.. what do you need to listen to mp3's
[07:21] <KennyR> tovella: Just the codecs?
[07:21] <Stormx2> T-ROK: How do you mean restore?
[07:21] <riotkittie> an mp3 codec
[07:21] <ad> riotkittie: who is promoting piracy?
[07:21] <KennyR> thought so.
[07:21] <T-ROK> i mean use the windows system restore i backed up right before i put ubuntu on
[07:21] <Yashiro> KennyR: i just installed xmms with almost all it plugins
[07:21] <Stormx2> T-ROK: Did you remove windows?
[07:21] <T-ROK> no
[07:21] <T-ROK> im still on windows
[07:22] <KennyR> Does anyone know if theres a way to play WMAs.. because thats about the only thing windows did correctly, was their compression on audio..
[07:22] <Stormx2> Bah. XMMS is so outdated.
[07:22] <T-ROK> i deleted the partition that ubuntu was on
[07:22] <Yashiro> i like it
[07:22] <Yashiro> =p
[07:22] <chris_shafto> Anyone help setting a theme from Emerald Themer?
[07:22] <Stormx2> T-ROK: And what is broken in windows?
[07:22] <T-ROK> and now i cant boot windows with out a disc
[07:22] <ad> KennyR: do you have to use wma?
[07:22] <T-ROK> i get error 17 grub installer thing
[07:22] <ad> XMMS rules
[07:22] <Stormx2> KennyR: A lot of players have in-the-box support....
[07:22] <KennyR> ad: I do sometimes.
[07:22] <yomm> is it normal that I cannot connect to IRC-server ( using bitchx ) using SSL ???
[07:22] <HymnToLife> T-ROK, restore the Windows mbr using a recovery console
[07:22] <tovella> KennyR: yes, basicly - the music players already installed should play mp3 and WMA files, so long as you have installed the codecs for it.  I also installed some other players, though
[07:22] <T-ROK> how?
[07:22] <ad> T-ROK: pop in the windows cd, choose recovery console
[07:23] <chris_shafto> Anyone help setting a theme from Emerald Themer?
[07:23] <Stormx2> HymnToLife: Ah yeah thats right
[07:23] <ad> then type fixmbr
[07:23] <HymnToLife> T-ROK, fixmbr
[07:23] <T-ROK> i did
[07:23] <kota> I downloaded that w32 codects thing, is what i what i needed?
[07:23] <T-ROK> it didnt work
[07:23] <Hacim07> on a side note dapper showed some debug stuff when it was starting up (is there some thing to set for edgy?) and going by what it said its taking along time to mount my for disk partitions (ntfs).
[07:23] <KennyR> Stormx2, tovella: So its all up to the codecs?
[07:23] <ad> KennyR: use mplayer
[07:23] <Hacim07> can I just disable mounting them at the start?
[07:23] <KennyR> ad: I use mmx
[07:23] <KennyR> ad: I like the winamp feeling..
[07:23] <Stormx2> KennyR: *sigh* it depends. Some media players use the same backend (backends like xine, gstreamer). Some have their own.
[07:23] <Lice> how do i make admin rights to a user?
[07:23] <tovella> KennyR: basically, yes, and I agree with ad - mplayer is one of my favorites.
[07:23] <Stormx2> !sudo | Lice
[07:24] <ubotu> Lice: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:24] <mamzers555> hello, how to start thunderbird in debug-mode?
[07:24] <KennyR> ok.. ill take note
[07:24] <Lice> :/ ok
[07:24] <jrib> Lice: add him to the admin group.  Or use system > admin > users and groups
[07:24] <T-ROK> i did fixmbr and it still comes up with grub error 17 what should i do?
[07:24] <KennyR> well im off for another day..
[07:24] <Stormx2> jrib: Eek. Sure thats good advice?
[07:24] <chris_shafto> Anyone help setting a theme from Emerald Themer?
[07:24] <jrib> Stormx2: what's wrong with it?
[07:24] <Yashiro> Hacim07: check your fstab file, dapper check partition before mount, i stopped the check changing my fstab config
[07:24] <Stormx2> chris_shafto: Check the ubuntuforums.org
[07:25] <Stormx2> jrib: Well doesn't it defeat the point of using sudo?
[07:25] <T-ROK> can someone go on msn one on one with me and help me?
[07:25] <marky-b> hmm. somehow i downloaded the alternate iso. downloading desktop atm
[07:25] <jrib> Stormx2: only users in the admin group can use sudo
[07:25] <marky-b> thx all
[07:25] <Hacim07> Yashiro: where is that located?
[07:25] <Stormx2> T-ROK: What do you need help with?
[07:25] <Stormx2> jrib: Ah okay.
[07:25] <T-ROK> Stormx2 can you go on msn?
[07:25] <jrib> Lice: what did you mean by your question?  Do you want a new user you made to have admin privileges?
[07:25] <Stormx2> jrib: I'm not familiar with it, thats why I was asking...
[07:25] <Lice> no my user
[07:25] <Lice> but thx got it now
[07:25] <Stormx2> T-ROK: Why on earth would you use MSN?
[07:26] <Yashiro> Hacim07: i changed mount options. Example "/dev/hda1 /media/hda1 ntfs defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1" to "/dev/hda1 /media/hda1 ntfs defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 0"
[07:26] <Stormx2> T-ROK: For this, I mean.
[07:26] <jrib> Lice: ok, then just see what Stormx2 said, i thought you meant something else...
[07:26] <T-ROK> because for some reason it says my irc pass doesnt work
[07:26] <tovella> KennyR: the thing to remember is that different players use different codecs, so I installed the w32codecs, as well as the gstreamer0-10-plugins, and libxine-extracodecs.
[07:26] <T-ROK> and i forget how to make new accoutn
[07:26] <Stormx2> T-ROK: Hahah
[07:26] <Yashiro> Hacim07:and now my ubuntu loads really quick =D
[07:26] <Stormx2> T-ROK: Just /msg nickserv help
[07:26] <T-ROK> ita sad eh
[07:27] <kota> wait
[07:27] <Yashiro> 4<Hacim07> Yashiro: where is that located? ---> /etc/fstab  be careful with this file
[07:27] <kota> now where do i download the mp3 codecs?
[07:27] <Hacim07> Yoshima:thanks I'll try it.
[07:27] <kota> without signing up for a site?
[07:27] <kota> >.>
[07:27] <Stormx2> Yashiro: What does the last bit change?
[07:27] <riotkittie> sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.old  before you edit it :P
[07:27] <Yashiro> who's Yoshima?
[07:27] <Yashiro> Stormx2 to avoid the ubuntu check disk on my windows partitions
[07:28] <Stormx2> Yashiro: Ah, I've been wondering how to do that for ages! Thanks! :)
[07:28] <Stormx2> Yashiro: That probably accounts for 80% of my bootup
[07:28] <Yashiro> Stormx2 it really takes long, and can't do anything, ntfs can't be fixed by ubuntu
[07:28] <tovella> koto: check out http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[07:28] <ferret_0567__> I think I'm gonna start to use Gaim as my IRC client
[07:28] <kota> is g-aim that good of an irc client?
[07:28] <pierrelourens> ferret_0567_: that's what i'm using right now
[07:28] <riotkittie> ferret_0567__: for the love of god, WHY??
[07:28] <Stormx2> Yashiro: Well what does it check for? ntfs-3g is pretty good with ntfs, and so is ntfstools
[07:29] <riotkittie> :P
[07:29] <Stormx2> riotkittie: Seconded
[07:29] <pierrelourens> can you install xgl w/ parallels?
[07:30] <Yashiro> Stormx2: ubuntu checks for fragmentation, and tries to fix it X__x
[07:30] <Stormx2> Yashiro: hah.
[07:30] <Yashiro> anyone has a good and easy guide to install AiGL and Beryl?
[07:30] <T-ROK> hi
[07:30] <tovella> koto: with regard to gaim, there are way too many features to go into, here.  I can say that gaim is the one I use 99 percent of the time.
[07:30] <T-ROK> damn
[07:30] <T-ROK> it wont let me register!
[07:30] <jracico1> Stormx2: ok, i got the plugins and it shows that the songs are playing but there is no sound. do i need to install audio drivers? i just put linux on yesterday and now that i think if it i haven ever heard any sounds out of the speakers yet for anything
[07:31] <Stormx2> jracico1: By default there is a startup noise. You heard that?
[07:31] <Yashiro> jraricol: check the audio output of ur player and ur system volume
[07:31] <kazuka> brb
[07:31] <przemek> Poland ?
[07:31] <jracico1> Stormx2: npe
[07:31] <Stormx2> Yashiro: Whats an ur?
[07:31] <riotkittie> !pl | przemek
[07:31] <ubotu> przemek: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[07:31] <Stormx2> !pl | przemek
[07:31] <Yashiro> your = ur
[07:31] <Yashiro> =p
[07:31] <riotkittie> i win !
[07:31] <Stormx2> Damn, you beat me to it.
[07:31] <Stormx2> <3
[07:31] <sdac221x> i found this but i think this is jre not jdk  -->  /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.08      or are they in same directory usually
[07:32] <Yashiro> anyone has a good and easy guide to install AiGL and Beryl?
[07:32] <kota> ok so if i use synaptic package manager and download the stuff, will it work or do i need to do further installing?
[07:32] <kota> :(?
[07:32] <Yashiro> i have a ATI video card
[07:32] <jrib> kota: will what work?
[07:32] <T-ROK> Stormx2: i can't make a new account it auto logs me on with the wrong pass ?!
[07:33] <jracico1> Stormx2: no i have never heard a startup sound
[07:33] <kota> Ok, Im in synaptic package manager
[07:33] <kota> and im downloading gstreamer-fluendo-mp3 decoder or whatever
[07:33] <kota> so will it install that automatically
[07:33] <riotkittie> kota:  yea
[07:33] <kota> or do i need to do some further installing?
[07:33] <kota> ah.
[07:33] <kota> :D
[07:34] <kota> that helps alot, thanks.
[07:34] <Stormx2> jracico1: Well check your sound volume and stuff. Do you have an icon in your gnome panels (taskbar(s)) that looks like a speaker?
[07:34] <riotkittie> bbl.
[07:34] <nothlit> !compiz | Yashiro
[07:34] <ubotu> Yashiro: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:34] <jracico1> Stormx2: ya, volume is at max
[07:34] <nothlit> Yashiro: otherwise theres also wiki.beryl-project.org
[07:34] <Stormx2> jracico1: Okay. Check here:
[07:34] <Stormx2> !sound | jracico1
[07:34] <ubotu> jracico1: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:34] <Peacekeeper> if there is a package in fiesty that I want, can I just add the lines to my apt sources and install the package in 6.10?
[07:35] <erUSUL> Peacekeeper: no
[07:35] <jracico1> Stormx2: ALSA?
[07:35] <Ervonia> ok
[07:35] <Peacekeeper> because?
[07:35] <Ervonia> NOW i can do this - I am T-ROK
[07:35] <Hacim07> is the ubuntu-desktop pkg necessary to upgrade to edgy?
[07:35] <Stormx2> jracico1: Its a mixer. Lots of apps send in sound and it mixes it all together and outputs it.
[07:35] <erUSUL> Hacim07: iirc yes
[07:35] <erUSUL> !upgrade > Hacim07
[07:35] <jrib> Peacekeeper: no, at best you can add the deb-src lines and try to rebuild the package
 i used XGL and Compiz, and it was slow =__=
[07:36] <erUSUL> Hacim07: check the upgrade notes
[07:36] <jrib> Peacekeeper: but you shouldn't do this if you don't know what you are doing, you could mess things up
[07:36] <Hacim07> than thats probably why it failed on my other pc.
[07:36] <Peacekeeper> gotcha, thanks
[07:36] <tovella> Hacim07: no i really don't think so.  you can upgrade a server with only text based programs from Dapper to Edgy.
[07:36] <jracico1> Stormx2: k, now i have sound but i need to have my speakers on max and my volume on max to hear it...in other words its realllly quiet
[07:36] <Ervonia> Storm i think.....I hope i sent you a PM
[07:37] <nothlit> Yashiro: the link has the composite managers page
[07:37] <kota> omfg. :D yay thank you guys.
[07:37] <nothlit> Yashiro: that doesn't just have xgl and compiz
[07:37] <kota> I got it to play mp3's
[07:37] <Yashiro> kk
[07:37] <Yashiro> ty
[07:37] <Stormx2> jracico1: Ah okay. Go into that mixer, and go into Edit>Preferences. Show the PCM control. Is it set to really low?
[07:37] <Hacim07> tovella:but I mean the Desktop.
[07:37] <Cyrus25801> can someone help me of with installing a keyboard (so i can use the special keys)
[07:38] <Stormx2> !keyboard | Cyrus25801
[07:38] <ubotu> Cyrus25801: To find out how to switch your keyboard layout, See https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts
[07:38] <Ervonia> Stormx2: Did you get my PM's?
[07:38] <nothlit> Yashiro: i used wiki.beryl-project.org myself, but i think the ubuntu docs are up-to-date
[07:38] <Stormx2> Ervonia: Oh, yeah. 1 sec
[07:38] <Ervonia> ok
[07:38] <jracico1> Stormx2: i cant see a PCM control
[07:39] <tovella> Hacim07: it really doesn't matter.  the upgrade is performed based on what programs you already have installed
[07:39] <Stormx2> jracico1: Well, I'm not sure. Enable anything and check its not really low, etc...
[07:39] <Stormx2> jracico1; What are you using to play sounds at the mo?
[07:39] <soundray> Cyrus25801: to assign functions to the special keys, xbindkeys and xbindkeys-config are really useful
[07:39] <Cyrus25801> Stormx2: i have a microsoft keyboard from my windows days. is it possible to use the eg. my favorites "keys"
[07:40] <padlefot> Cyrus25801: It should be, i remember finding software that did that..
[07:40] <padlefot> Cyrus25801: try google
[07:40] <jracico1> Stormx2: rythymbox, i like it more than banshee casue it looks more like itunes
[07:40] <corrupt> Can anyone tell me how to change my defualt screen resolution to 1280x1024, as it keeps changing back to 1152x768?
[07:40] <jracico1> Stormx2: better UI imo
[07:40] <Stormx2> jracico1: Is there a volume control on it, etc?
[07:40] <Yashiro> nothlit: i wanna be sure it will work, because last time i had an old version of ati driver, i hope it will run smoothly :D
[07:40] <tovella> Cyrus25801: yes you can use those keys.
[07:40] <padlefot> corrupt: remove the 1152x*** from xorg.conf
[07:40] <jracico1> Stormx2: ya, its at full
[07:40] <Stormx2> jracico1: Just fiddle with the controls in that mixer, k?
[07:40] <Cyrus25801> tovella: how do i use them
[07:41] <tovella> give me a moment.
[07:41] <corrupt> padlefot, how do i open xorg.conf please?
[07:41] <ryanakca> Stormx2: I burned at 4x... same problem
[07:41] <Stormx2> Cyrus25801: I don't know... Possibly. Have a look at ubuntuforums.org
[07:41] <Stormx2> ryanakca: Eek, really?! Thats very strange.
[07:41] <Yashiro> i have a keybord distribution that make my notebook special keys working :D
[07:41] <Stormx2> ryanakca: I have 2 cd drives, and my older one won't boot anything and will hardly read.
[07:41] <Yashiro> *work
[07:41] <padlefot> corrupt: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:42] <Cyrus25801> thanx all
[07:42] <corrupt> padlefot, how do i open it in the text editor please, havent figured out how to edit in konsole yet
[07:42] <Cyrus25801> brb
[07:43] <NevroPus> how da I make a virtual pc in ubuntu? I want to be able to use windows virtualy in ubuntu
[07:43] <Cyrus25801> corrupt: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:43] <soundray> !xbindkeys | Cyrus25801
[07:43] <ubotu> xbindkeys: Associate a combination of keys or mouse buttons with a shell command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.1-1.1 (edgy), package size 26 kB, installed size 148 kB
[07:44] <Hacim07> Yoshima:disable hd check of ntfs didn't help.
[07:45] <tovella> Cyrus25801: you could install hotkeys.
[07:45] <ad> Azul
[07:45] <Cyrus25801> tovella: please explain
[07:45] <tovella> Cyrus25801: hotkeys is a hotkeys daemon for your Internet/multimedia keyboard in X.
[07:45] <Cyrus25801> soundray: i dont think i have edgy i have 6.06. so what now
[07:46] <ubuntu79> I install to driver of ati radeon and
[07:46] <ubuntu79> vrilutza@VrilutZa:~/Desktop$ fglrxinfodisplay: :0.0  screen: 0OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc.OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R200 20060602 AGP 1x TCLOpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.3 Mesa 6.5.1)
[07:46] <soundray> Cyrus25801: wrt xbindkeys, that doesn't make a difference.
[07:46] <holycow> is it possible to restrict to shh only allowing loggin in to one specific user?
[07:46] <Xif> I put all the repos on http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories , but still get E: Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree
[07:46] <soundray> !info xbindkeys dapper | Cyrus25801
[07:46] <ubotu> xbindkeys: Associate a combination of keys or mouse buttons with a shell command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.1-1 (dapper), package size 26 kB, installed size 152 kB
[07:46] <Xif> why and how do I solve thins?
[07:46] <Xif> *this
[07:46] <darre1> im assuming this is a fairly common question. i have a windows xp computer and the drive is ntfs and id like to install ubuntu to try it out..... #1 is it MANDATORY to mess with my partitions to make some space for ubuntu, and.... #2 will ubuntu automatically create a boot option when i restart to enter into either os?
[07:46] <Stormx2> NevroPus: Check out VMWare
[07:46] <Stormx2> !vmware | NevroPus
[07:46] <ubotu> NevroPus: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[07:46] <Cyrus25801> tovella: so the program is hotkeys
[07:46] <jrib> Xif: what arch are you using?
[07:47] <Cyrus25801> soundray: thanx will try
[07:47] <Xif> jrib: i386
[07:47] <Azul> to solve thins you have to eat
[07:47] <tovella> Cyrus25801: yes.
[07:47] <jrib> Xif: sudo apt-get update  and try again
[07:47] <ubuntu79> need help
[07:47] <ubuntu79> :(
[07:47] <Cyrus25801> tovella: thanx will try that
[07:47] <Azul> azureus keeps crashing when i exit, what's the issue
[07:47] <darre1> azureus blows, maybe update your java vm?
[07:47] <Xif> jrib: still no go
[07:47] <soundray> ubuntu79: ask a question
[07:47] <sacater> i understand that with linux, sometimes and ethenet port can dissapear of the face of teh earth, this happend with me, but i fixed it by doing a startup in recovery mode
[07:47] <NevroPus> thanks;)
 i have the same problem, it crushes when i close option tab or the main window
[07:48] <Stormx2> darre1: Good questions. 1) To try ubuntu, you can use the live CD. If you boot into it it won't touch your files or anything.
[07:48] <jrib> Xif: pastebin your current sources.list, and output from:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree
[07:48] <ubuntu79> I install ati radeon driver and not accelerate
[07:48] <darre1> yea no the live cd idea is out storm, i want to actually get it onto the drive to do some real work
[07:48] <Azul> it didn't crash when i was on 6.06
[07:48] <Xif> jrib: k, sec
[07:48] <ubuntu79> fglrxinfodisplay: :0.0  screen: 0OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc.OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R200 20060602 AGP 1x TCL
[07:48] <ubuntu79> :(
[07:48] <darre1> really dig my hands in
[07:48] <Moniker42> i used the vista live cd to format the existing ubuntu partition, windows xp was already installed on another partition
[07:48] <Moniker42> and now i can't start windows xp
[07:48] <tat> vista live cd?
[07:48] <ubuntu79> Section "Device"        Identifier      "ATI Technologies, Inc. RV280 [Radeon 9200 SE] "        Driver          "fglrx"        BusID           "PCI:2:0:0"
[07:49] <tovella> Cyrus25801: wait...
[07:49] <jrib> !windows | Moniker42
[07:49] <ubotu> Moniker42: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[07:49] <Stormx2> darre1: 2) You *can* run ubuntu from a FAT/NTFS partition, but it is by no means standard and isn't a very good idea. 'messing' with your partitions is safe, as long as you take the correct precautions etc.
[07:49] <ubuntu79> ho it's a probleme
[07:49] <soundray> ubuntu79: have you done something to load the fglrx module, for example a reboot?
[07:49] <ubuntu79> ?
[07:49] <Azul> Moniker42: try ##windows
[07:49] <ubuntu79> yep
[07:49] <Stormx2> Moniker42: You using GRUB?
[07:49] <ubuntu79> this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197471&highlight=libGL.so.1.2
[07:49] <Moniker42> Stormx2, yea
[07:49] <soundray> ubuntu79: and is the fglrx module loaded?
[07:50] <Stormx2> Moniker42: Does XP show up in the list?
[07:50] <tovella> Cyrus25801: sorry, i'm playing with beta software, and there are some things that are different.  Had to figure out some of the differences.
[07:50] <Yashiro> ubuntu79: i had to manually configure my ati drivers
[07:50] <ubuntu79> yep
[07:50] <soundray> ubuntu79: how did you check?
[07:50] <darre1> Stormx2: okay so you CAN run ubuntu on ntfs just to give it a go? if i install to my windows drive will it put in a boot option for xp as well as ubuntu? im assuming it will but i wouldnt like to find out later that it ignores xp and boots right into ubuntu without questioning
[07:50] <ubuntu79> fglrxinfo
[07:50] <birgi> hi everybody, is there a way to install ubuntu 6.10 from a flash disk???
[07:50] <Stormx2> Moniker42: What? You can't run ubuntu on top of windows unless you run it in a virtual machine.
[07:51] <Stormx2> Bah
[07:51] <Stormx2> I meant darre1
[07:51] <Xif> jrib: http://pastebin.ca/335957
[07:51] <tovella> Cyrus25801: gnome comes with thing to set up keyboard shortcuts.  it should already be installed on your computer.
[07:51] <Moniker42> Stormx2, i get grub error 22. it doesn't load at all. it's not this computer i'm talking about
[07:51] <darre1> no not on top of... im just saying
[07:51] <darre1> right now: i have c:\windows
[07:51] <Stormx2> darre1: The usual method is to download and burn an iso image, then reboot into ubuntu.
[07:51] <darre1> and id probably instlal ubuntu to that same drive
[07:51] <eleazar123> hey guys, everytime i install ubuntu grub is configured incorrectly and i have to spend a lot of time manually configuring it, i'm about to install ubuntu now, is there anyway for me to figure out which drive grub should be installed on?
[07:51] <Cyrus25801> tovella: what is it called
[07:51] <darre1> yea im actually having problems with that
[07:51] <darre1> and i dont know why
[07:51] <darre1> my boot from cd didnt work
[07:52] <Stormx2> darre1: Okay. But you understand that its hard to install into the same *partition*, yeah? (thats called C:\ under windows)
[07:52] <Hacim07> anybody have an idea on why edgy won't restart
[07:52] <Stormx2> darre1: What was the error?
[07:52] <ubuntu79> fglrxinfo
[07:52] <Stormx2> Hacim07: Not unless you flesh out some detail.
[07:52] <tovella> Cyrus25801: don't know, but from the panel, you should find it under System > Preferences, or System > Administration.
[07:52] <ubuntu79> soundray
[07:52] <ubuntu79> idee?
[07:52] <Stormx2> ubuntu79: Please stop saying that. If you want to run the command, you need to open a terminal
[07:53] <Hacim07> Stormx2:well I don't no what to say it doesn't give any error msgs.
[07:53] <soundray> ubuntu79: still trying to load your forums link -- Server not found
[07:53] <darre1> i cant remember now, but i get the  boot option and select livecd/install and it starts to load the kernel, but then stops and says error, and forces me to click reboot. furthermore, in windows xp... that same 6.10 cd doesnt load the kmelon app and basically does nothing
[07:53] <Stormx2> Hacim07: It just boots into windows? You need to change your boot order.
[07:53] <darre1> i couldnt figure out whether its a cd or cdrom issue
[07:53] <Cyrus25801> tovella: i already have played with that but cant seem to asign some keys
[07:53] <Xif> Anyone has any idea why apt can't find flashplugin-nonfree when the non-free repo is in sources list? -> http://pastebin.ca/335957
[07:54] <Polibio> 5 minutes without power
[07:54] <Polibio> turn off the lights
[07:54] <phaedra> darre1,  Have you tried the alternate install cd?
[07:54] <darre1> no
[07:54] <Stormx2> Hacim07: If it doesn't try to boot, then you need to change the boot order. When your computer boots, enter your BIOS (I have to tap DEL on my PC). Change your first boot device to CD, and your second boot device to whatever your first one was
[07:54] <tovella> Cyrus25801:  ...ah... wish i'd known that.
[07:54] <soundray> ubuntu79: got some trouble of my own - machine hasn't been right since I suspended & woke it up again
[07:54] <darre1> im unaware of it
[07:54] <Yashiro> ubuntu79: look here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3717/
[07:54] <Cyrus25801> tovella: sorry
[07:54] <Stormx2> phaedra: Thats not the problem
[07:54] <Hacim07> grub boots into ubuntu by defualt.edgy just fails to ever shutdown.
[07:54] <tovella> Cyrus25801: try hotkeys, then.
[07:54] <padlefot> nice move, italy..
[07:54] <padlefot> :-)
[07:55] <jrib> Xif: well taht's quite strange... you are positive this is i386?  Does dpkg-architecture confirm?
[07:55] <soundray> ubuntu79: have to reboot -- will be back (I hope)
[07:55] <darre1> i was thinking about just killing the xp drive and trying to maybe do it over using PXE or something but thats complicated. the computer has no usb boot option either. its a 7 year old laptop
[07:56] <darre1> i dunno. maybe ill just try burining another edgy
[07:56] <darre1> =-\
[07:56] <Xif> jrib: dpkg-architecture: command not found
[07:56] <Stormx2> darre1: Wait, hold on
[07:56] <darre1> holding
[07:56] <eleazar123> can anybody help me with grub?
[07:56] <Stormx2> darre1: Does the disk spin up when it gets to the stage Windows XP normally starts at?
[07:57] <rogue780> when I try to login I get the following error: "User's $HoME/.dmrc file is being ignored. This prevents the default session and language from being saved. File should be owned by user and have 644 permissions. User's $HOME directory must be owned by user and not writable by other users." I've already tried chmod 644 and chown. can someone help me please?
[07:57] <Pio> is it possible to use edgy w/ upstart and a dapper kernel?
[07:57] <Stormx2> eleazar123: Not unless you tell us the problem...
[07:57] <darre1> hang on ill do it now storm and tell you exactly the error i get IN windowsxp when the 6.10 disk goes in....
[07:57] <eleazar123> Stormx2 i did, but nobody replied :(
[07:57] <nothlit> Pio: why do you need to use a dapper kernel?
[07:57] <Stormx2> eleazar123: Ah. Well ask again, please (hit the up arrow if you use X-Chat)
[07:57] <Pio> nothlit, edgy's kernel has a unpatched bug that prevents me from being able to use with with my motherboard
[07:57] <sdac221x> hi.  i am trying to set the class path and i get the following error:  "export CLASSPATH=/usr/share/tomcat5.5/common/lib/jsp-api.jar;/usr/share/tomcat5.5/common/lib/servlet-api.jar" ... any ideas ?
[07:58] <eleazar123> hey guys, everytime i install ubuntu grub is configured incorrectly and i have to spend a lot of time manually configuring it, i'm about to install ubuntu now, is there anyway for me to figure out which drive grub should be installed on? i think it might be b/c all of my drives are sata
[07:58] <jrib> Xif: does  'apt-cache policy wine' work?
[07:58] <nothlit> !kernel | Pio
[07:58] <ubotu> Pio: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[07:58] <Pio> nothlit, are you saying i should just compile my own?
[07:58] <Xif> jrib: nope :(
[07:58] <padlefot> lapskaus rocks
[07:58] <Stormx2> eleazar123: How exactly does it misconfigure, what does it do? Prehaps back up your menu.list?
[07:58] <Xif> If I mistakenly installed the AMD64 I'm going to kill someone.
[07:58] <Stormx2> Hahaha
[07:59] <NET||abuse> hmm, on ati.com the fglrx driver is 8.32 but the version listed xorg-driver-fglrx is only 7.1.0-8.28.8
[07:59] <Stormx2> Uh-oh spaghetti-oh
[07:59] <padlefot> killall
[07:59] <padlefot> while you're at it
[07:59] <jrib> How can Xif check if he is running i386 or amd64?
[07:59] <nothlit> Pio: hmm, usplash might work since its userspace only
[07:59] <NET||abuse> so it's 8.28, still 4 revisions behind ati.com
[07:59] <darre1> Stormx2: i cant even get the disc to load in xp right now. either its a bad disc or its a drive issue i guess
[07:59] <Mr> Hey guys I have run into a massive problem with my version of ubunut (on winblows right now) anyway my xserver crashed and i cant find anyting to help me get it back..i have very important files on the comp and i cant lose them please help
[07:59] <rogue780> when I try to login I get the following error: "User's $HoME/.dmrc file is being ignored. This prevents the default session and language from being saved. File should be owned by user and have 644 permissions. User's $HOME directory must be owned by user and not writable by other users." I've already tried chmod 644 and chown. can someone help me please?
[07:59] <darre1> this computer is finnicky i guess. it works on others
[07:59] <Stormx2> jrib: I don't think amd64 would even boot on an i386
[07:59] <nothlit> Pio: you could try the dapper kernel, but why wouldn't you just fix the bug
[08:00] <Stormx2> darre1: Thats odd. You can't see its contents?
[08:00] <padlefot> Mr: back them up using the terminal
[08:00] <darre1> no
[08:00] <darre1> i cant
[08:00] <jrib> Xif: do you have a 64bit processor?
[08:00] <Xif> Stormx2: my arch is amd64, but I (planned?) to install the i386 version.
[08:00] <Xif> jrib: yeah, I do.
[08:00] <Mr> padlefot: can i put them on a thumb drive?
[08:00] <jrib> Xif: what does uname -a  say
[08:00] <Pio> yeah.. good point.. my problem is the system im working on has no OS at all right now, so i can't build the kernel without an OS, I can't install an OS without the kernel
[08:00] <darre1> ill just burn another if i can find a cdr and that will probably be the real test.
[08:00] <Stormx2> Xif: Ah, that should be fine...
[08:00] <darre1> anyway thanks Stormx2
[08:00] <Stormx2> darre1: Wait, verify the iso first
[08:00] <Xif> jrib: 2.6.15-27-amd64-generic #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Dec 8 17:50:54 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[08:00] <darre1> okay how
[08:00] <Stormx2> darre1: Don't waste CDs.
[08:00] <Stormx2> !verify | darre1
[08:00] <ubotu> darre1: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[08:00] <padlefot> Mr: that should work
[08:01] <jracico1> who knows anything about programming in C code?
[08:01] <jrib> jracico1: /join ##c
[08:01] <Mr> padlefot: how would I go about doing that? Sorry bit of a linux newb >.<
[08:01] <Stormx2> jracico1: The people in ##c?
[08:01] <jracico1> thanks
[08:01] <darre1> Stormx2:  quick question, this verifys the DOWNLOADED iso, or the actual burned cd
[08:01] <padlefot> Mr, if by thumb drive you mean a USB stick or something similar?
[08:01] <nothlit> Pio: you could use the feisty kernel :P or build it from the livecd
[08:01] <Mr> yes usb stick
[08:01] <Xif> I can't believe I installed the AMD64 version
[08:01] <Stormx2> darre1: The downloaded ISO
[08:01] <Cyrus25801> tovella: i found another program keytouch. but when i try to install (i run this command:  sudo apt-get install keytouch) but it tells me the package couldn't be found. found link on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KeyTouch?highlight=%28keytouch%29
[08:01] <darre1> hmm okay thats long gone unfortunately
[08:01] <padlefot> Mr: it automaticly mounts in /media/DEVICENAME
[08:01] <Stormx2> Oh?
[08:02] <Stormx2> darre1: Well if you have a bad CD, you can't really do anything without the ISO...
[08:02] <Mr> padlefot: okay so what would I type to move the files from /var/www/ to /media/KINGSTON/ ?
[08:02] <padlefot> Mr: then you can use cp -R /diryouwanttobackup /media/DEVICENAME
[08:02] <darre1> theres no cd md5
[08:02] <Stormx2> darre1: Does the disk spin up when it gets to the stage Windows XP normally starts at?
[08:02] <Mr> padlegot: haha thanks
[08:02] <darre1> are you asking on boot?
[08:02] <MajorPayne> What packages do I need to install to play mp3's with Amarok in Kubuntu?
[08:02] <Stormx2> darre1: yeah
[08:03] <skreww> what was that beryl channel someone posted in here earlier?
[08:03] <padlefot> Mr: cp -R /var/www /media/KINGSTON
[08:03] <darre1> on boot i get the ubuntu load
[08:03] <Stormx2> !mp3 | MajorPayne
[08:03] <darre1> install/livecd etc + options
[08:03] <jrib> !beryl | skreww
[08:03] <ubotu> MajorPayne: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:03] <ubotu> skreww: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[08:03] <rogue780> when I try to login I get the following error: "User's $HoME/.dmrc file is being ignored. This prevents the default session and language from being saved. File should be owned by user and have 644 permissions. User's $HOME directory must be owned by user and not writable by other users." I've already tried chmod 644 and chown. can someone help me please?
[08:03] <skreww> excellent
[08:03] <Stormx2> darre1: What? I thought you never got that far!
[08:03] <jrib> skreww: also, #beryl
[08:03] <tovella> Cyrus25801: what about the hotkeys program?
[08:03] <Xif> ... Is there any way to install Flash on a AMD64 Dapper?
[08:03] <jrib> !flash | Xif
[08:03] <ubotu> Xif: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:03] <ubotu> Xif: Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[08:03] <Stormx2> Xif: Not really :(
[08:03] <darre1> no i did, i said then i hit enter to livecd/install and it starts loading the kernel and then stops
[08:03] <darre1> remember?
[08:03] <sdac221x> MajorPayne:   This is all i did  -->  https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/multimedia.html
[08:04] <Stormx2> darre1: No. But in that case, sounds like a bad iso or burn. Either way, you need the iso.
[08:04] <erUSUL> Xif: 32bit chroot envoirment with firefox and flash
[08:04] <sdac221x> MajorPayne:   make sure you enable extra reposits also
[08:04] <erUSUL> ??
[08:04] <darre1> k. i think i got the iso from bittorrent so ill try a .edu ftp next time
[08:04] <MajorPayne> Thanks.
[08:04] <Mr> padlefot: im trying to find the device name but apparently the one that shows up on windows is differen form linux
[08:04] <Xif> erUSUL: I'd rather slow death, thanks.
[08:04] <Xif> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash#head-98b1256d439424a09530598e479392d879837665
[08:04] <Cyrus25801> tovella: with this program i can select the keyboard and install the keys auto. if i understand correctly
[08:04] <darre1> and ill be sure to md5 it before i burn Stormx2
[08:04] <darre1> ;)
[08:04] <Stormx2> darre1: bittorrent should deliver it correctly, but meh. verify it anyway, once you get it...
[08:05] <Stormx2> Okay
[08:05] <Stormx2> And
[08:05] <Stormx2> Burn it slow, k? Below 10x
[08:05] <darre1> okay?
[08:05] <darre1> that matters?
[08:05] <Stormx2> Can do.
[08:05] <darre1> does it matter if i burn it to a dvd or cdr?
[08:05] <tovella> Cyrus25801: use whichever you feel more comfortable with.
[08:05] <darre1> or what mode?
[08:05] <Stormx2> The faster you burn something, the higher the chance of a bad burn
[08:05] <eleazar123> Stormx2, when i install ubuntu and then reboot grub gives an error (typically Error 22 i think) and then i have to reboot the livecd and figure out why i'm getting that error, and typically after error 22 is fixed i get Error 17 :( it's always after a fresh install of Ubuntu :\
[08:05] <darre1> i see
[08:05] <Sixer> Hi. Anyone know what comes after "Loading RAID monitoring" during boot on ubuntu dapper server? It hangs after this point.
[08:05] <Hacim07> Ok got there were I had to update init script pkg from the cd. why doesn't the upgrade do this for you?
[08:06] <Stormx2> darre1: Depends which version you download.... you can burn the DVD v on a DVD, The CD version on a CD, or the CD version on a DVD.
[08:06] <alecjw> darre1, the fater you burn it, them ore the writing laser for the cd has to move, so the hihgher the chance is of an error
[08:06] <tovella> i've been up since 6AM and still haven't eaten.  i'm starving - gotta go.
[08:06] <Cyrus25801> tovella: will try this and if it doesn't work i will try hot keys. thank you very much for the help
[08:06] <darre1> right that makes sense
[08:06] <Stormx2> eleazar123: Eeek...
[08:06] <Stormx2> eleazar123: You got some strange disk setup?
[08:06] <darre1> is there a special mode i should use as well?
[08:06] <Mr> padlefot: apparently its not picking up my usb drive, although when i 'dir' in teh media folder i get "cdrom cdrom0 cdrom1 floppy floppy0"
[08:06] <darre1> mode1
[08:06] <darre1> 2xa?
[08:06] <Pooky> can anyone recommend a decent svn gui?
[08:07] <sdac221x> hi.  i am trying to set the class path by typing "export CLASSPATH=/usr/share/tomcat5.5/common/lib/jsp-api.jar;/usr/share/tomcat5.5/common/lib/servlet-api.jar" ... but i get the following error on shell startup --> "bash: /usr/share/tomcat5.5/common/lib/servlet-api.jar: Permission denied"->
[08:07] <tonyyarusso> Pooky: gnome-terminal?  ;)
[08:07] <eleazar123> Stormx2, not really, all sata, it did it when i had a few ide drives mixed with sata (i always install ubuntu on my sata drives)
[08:07] <Stormx2> darre1: Bah, don't think so... Check out !install for a good app to write isos
[08:07] <sdac221x> I tried sudo export but same error...
[08:07] <eleazar123> Stormx2, i guess my main question is how do i figure out which drive i should have the installer install ubuntu onto
[08:08] <jrib> sdac221x: what do you expect that command to do?
[08:08] <Stormx2> darre1: Whichever you want it to install onto, surely?
[08:08] <Dalorin> oh yes.
[08:08] <Stormx2> Wait
[08:08] <Dalorin> it's n00b time.
[08:08] <Stormx2> THat was for eleazar123
[08:08] <Dalorin> hi all!
[08:08] <Stormx2> Yo.
[08:08] <darre1> hehe Stormx2 ill get out of your hair
[08:08] <sdac221x> jrib:  to set the CLASSPATH variable... i got instructions from a guide on installing tomcat
[08:08] <darre1> thanks for taking the time with me
[08:08] <tonyyarusso> !burn | darre1, Stormx2
[08:08] <ubotu> darre1, Stormx2: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[08:08] <darre1> :)
[08:08] <Pooky> tonyyarusso: hehe.
[08:08] <Dalorin> Xif: firefox crash issues perchance?
[08:08] <Stormx2> darre1: No prob.
[08:08] <jrib> sdac221x: what do you expect the part after the ; to do
[08:08] <ubuntu34> fglrxinfoXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".display: :0.0  screen: 0OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.orgOpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX IndirectOpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.1)
[08:08] <erUSUL> sdac221x:  CLASSPATH=CLASSPATH:/usr/share/tomcat5.5/common/lib/ <<<<
[08:08] <ubuntu34> need help
[08:08] <ubuntu34> how to chenge ati radeon
[08:08] <Mr> padlefot?
[08:09] <rogue780> when I try to login I get the following error: "User's $HoME/.dmrc file is being ignored. This prevents the default session and language from being saved. File should be owned by user and have 644 permissions. User's $HOME directory must be owned by user and not writable by other users." I've already tried chmod 644 and chown. can someone help me please?
[08:09] <Stormx2> Im off for a bit. Gonna make some toast or something.
[08:09] <eleazar123> stormx2, but how do i figure out which drive i want it to install onto? it's defaulting to hd0, but when i partitioned the drives it said all of them were (0,0,0) so i have no idea which drive it's installing onto (i know which drive, i just don't know the hdx,x numbers)
[08:09] <Xif> Dalorin: no, I somehow managed to install the amd64 Dapper instead of the i386
[08:09] <Stormx2> eleazar123: That sounds like the windows numbering of drives. How many do you have? 3?
[08:09] <eleazar123> 6
[08:09] <Stormx2> SIX?!
[08:09] <Xif> So no flash for me
[08:09] <eleazar123> stormx2 lol yes
[08:10] <sdac221x> jrib:  i expect the class path to point to these two files separeted by ;
[08:10] <Stormx2> eleazar123: In the installer just go into "custom" or whatever it is or "manually edit partition table". That'll tell ya.
[08:10] <epp_b> Is there a complete list of supported/compatible hardware for Ubuntu?
[08:10] <Stormx2> !hardware | epp_b
[08:10] <ubotu> epp_b: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[08:10] <Stormx2> brb
[08:10] <eleazar123> stormx2, ah ok, and i want to install grub onto the same drive as ubuntu, yes?
[08:10] <epp_b> thanks, ubotu
[08:10] <padlefot> MR, sorry what?
[08:10] <Stormx2> eleazar123: Probably. And please, use partition.
[08:11] <alecjw> epp_b, ubotu is just a bot. don't talk to it or it will get angry with you :D
[08:11] <Stormx2> eleazar123: Drive is a bit misleading...
[08:11] <epp_b> exit
[08:11] <Stormx2> !botsnack
[08:11] <epp_b> oops, never mind
[08:11] <Xif> ...and naturally, gnash is of no use.
[08:11] <ubotu> Yum!
[08:11] <jrib> sdac221x: are you positive paths are seperated by ";" and not ":"?  You need quotes around everything because ; means it's the end of the command, start a new one.  So it tries to run the thing after the ";"
[08:11] <pouff> :O
[08:11] <eleazar123> stormx2, not sure what you mean, i have 6 drives, but i appreciate your help :)
[08:12] <Stormx2> eleazar123: Are all your drives unpartitioned, etc?
[08:12] <epp_b> lol, I didn't know that (first time here)
[08:12] <epp_b> very funny (very clever, too!)
[08:12] <eleazar123> Stormx2, no, only the drive i'm trying to install ubuntu onto
[08:12] <jrib> sdac221x: by everything I mean FOO=cheese;cake should be FOO="cheese;cake", but afaik a ":" is usually used, not a ";"
[08:12] <Yashy> Can anyone help with an initramfs issue? http://www.pastebin.ca/334707
[08:12] <rogue780> when I try to login I get the following error: "User's $HoME/.dmrc file is being ignored. This prevents the default session and language from being saved. File should be owned by user and have 644 permissions. User's $HOME directory must be owned by user and not writable by other users." I've already tried chmod 644 and chown. can someone help me please?
[08:13] <Stormx2> eleazar123: Well, on the installer, go to "manually edit the partition table". Theres a dropdown list of drives. Find the one you want to install on, make the partions, and voila!
[08:13] <Stormx2> rogue780: Make a topic on ubuntuforums.org / run a search
[08:13] <eleazar123> stormx2, well thats what i did on all previous installations, i manually created the partitions and then installed, but grub still was entirely screwed up :(
[08:13] <erUSUL> rogue780: have you checked the permision of your home dir?
[08:13] <Stormx2> eleazar123: Can you wait 20 minutes? I really must eat, I haven't eaten in 24 hours...
[08:14] <eleazar123> stormx2, lol yes :) i appreciate your help, i'll continue to work on it
[08:14] <rogue780> erUSUL, yes
[08:15] <Nielssonnich> hi
[08:15] <sdac221x> jrib:  yes the guide says ";".  maybe its a mistake..   erUSUL mentioned " CLASSPATH=CLASSPATH:/usr/share/tomcat5.5/common/lib/" ... i guess that would have the desired effect since both files are in this directory
[08:15] <AJIEXA> Hi all!!! can sombody help me to find a program for manage my CD,DVD .. program like "Gwhere" ?????????
[08:15] <ubu_> #linuxportalen.se
[08:16] <pbureau> AJIEXA, check http://www.freshmeat.net
[08:17] <jrib> sdac221x: find out if it's ":" or ";".  You probably want $CLASSPATH after the "=" isntead
[08:17] <AJIEXA> pbureau: ok thx I'l see it but may be sombody have IMHO
[08:17] <pbureau> AJIEXA,  sure but... kinda wrong channel to ask.... but be my guest and wait and see
[08:18] <chris_shafto> Is there anyway of making linux be able to handle mms:// urls? Please?
[08:18] <jrib> chris_shafto: mplayer works fine for me
[08:18] <jrib> chris_shafto: with w32codecs
[08:18] <erUSUL> rogue780: are them like this? drwxr-xr-x ?? and also chown <youruser>:users .dmrc (mine is -rw------- 1 myuser myuser 26 2004-10-11 15:59 .dmrc) chmod 600 .dmrc
[08:18] <chris_shafto> jrib, thanks pal
[08:20] <Cyrus25801> tov
[08:20] <rogue780> erUSUL, eh...it is drwxrwxrwx
[08:21] <chris_shafto> jrib, where do i get the w32 codecs from?
[08:21] <Lice> whats the file managern called?
[08:21] <rogue780> chris_shafto, visit ubuntuguide.com or org...one of those. it has everything you need
[08:22] <chris_shafto> got um nvm but thanks
[08:22] <austa> dont use easyubuntu it has a virus
[08:22] <erUSUL> rogue780: there you are you have not checked the perms of your home dir.... the problem was between the chair and the monitor ;)
[08:22] <chris_shafto> What application is likely to conflict with mplayer?
[08:22] <Cyrus25801> if anyone ever needs to install extra keys for their multimedia keyboard us keytouch (it's brilliant) http://keytouch.sourceforge.net/about.php
[08:23] <austa> totem or xine
[08:23] <pbureau> austa, a virus ? on linux?
[08:23] <rogue780> erUSUL, that's usually the problem. I'm taking a longer time to adapt to linux than I thought I would...how do I change the permissions to drwxr-xr-x?
[08:23] <ikonia> chris_shafto: what do you mena onflict
[08:23] <ikonia> conflict
[08:23] <austa> pbureau: yes it wrote monkey.b to my bootsector
[08:23] <ikonia> rogue780: man chmod
[08:23] <spx2> if wget tries to recursively download a page it wont download the pages who have relative url's like URL=/blah/blabla/bla.jpg  , what can i do about that /
[08:23] <spx2> ?
[08:24] <chris_shafto> ikonia, I try to install Mplayer through add/remove yet everytime i tick it i get :
[08:24] <chris_shafto> This application conflicts with other installed software. To install 'mplayer' the conflicting software must be removed before.
[08:24] <chris_shafto> Switch to the advanced mode to resolve this conflict.
[08:24] <ikonia> switch to advane mode
[08:24] <pbureau> austa, humm isnt monkey.b a windows virus ?
[08:24] <chris_shafto> ikonia, how?
[08:24] <Cyrus25801> if anyone ever needs to install extra keys for their multimedia keyboard us keytouch (it's brilliant) http://keytouch.sourceforge.net/about.php
[08:24] <austa> no it's a boot sector virus asshole
[08:24] <ikonia> Cyrus25801: we saw you the first time - thanks
[08:24] <ikonia> austa: watch you mouth please, thats uncalled for
[08:24] <chris_shafto> ikonia, isnt advance mode basically Synaptic?
[08:25] <pbureau> austa,  I am asking a valid question no need to get nasty here, I am only asking honest questions
[08:25] <austa> ikonia: sorry sorry, i felt i was being provoked
[08:25] <rogue780> ikonia, yeah. it makes no sense to me
[08:25] <ikonia> austa: not i nthe slightest
[08:25] <pierrelourens> This is probably a dumb question, but when doing dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, how do you actually select/deselect  the resolution options?
[08:25] <Cyrus25801> ikonia: I just appreciate it when ppl acknowledge me. thanx
[08:25] <austa> pierrelourens: use the spacebar
[08:25] <chris_shafto> ikonia, isnt advance mode basically Synaptic?
[08:26] <pbureau> austa, do you have dual boot ? I am asking because I did  not think that on a linux only system a virus could get in.
[08:26] <pierrelourens> austa: lol. thanks :)
[08:26] <ikonia> chris_shafto: no idea I don't use add/remove
[08:26] <austa> pbureau: brb need to format
[08:28] <rogue780> chris_shafto, a virus can get into any system. even linux, but since most viruses are designed to attack windows they can't do anything to linux, but they can to any windows computer that has access to the infected file
[08:28] <spx2> if wget tries to recursively download a page it wont download the pages who have relative url's like URL=/blah/blabla/bla.jpg  , what can i do about that ?
[08:28] <fileb> join #karlsruhe
[08:28] <ikonia> spx2: check your options, wget doesn't do recursive links by default
[08:29] <jedidiahcunningh> Anyone familier with converting 10-bit two's compliment hex to decimal
[08:29] <ikonia> ooh right you want it to do that
[08:29] <timo> dose any ones gaim close by itself ?
[08:29] <spx2> ikonia, i already checked my options, im using -r
[08:29] <yomm> spx b careful that you don't dl the whole internet :)
[08:29] <ikonia> spx2: man wget for the recursive and follow links options
[08:29] <jedidiahcunningh> timo, no works fine for me
[08:29] <ikonia> and the recursion level
[08:29] <spx2> yomm, im limiting with --level=2
[08:29] <spx2> ikonia, i already did that
[08:29] <ignus> hi, does anyone know what would cause the gnome volume manager _not_ to use ntfs-3g or is there a way to force it to?
[08:30] <timo> this hole linux thing is starting to do my head in
[08:30] <ikonia> spx2: maybe the pages are built in a strange way
[08:30] <tecta> could someone please help me out? i can't get my wireless connection working with Ubuntu
[08:30] <ignus> does anyone know how to force gnome volume manager to use ntfs-3g???
[08:31] <SmAcKaSs> Ok so Ubuntu will not boot
[08:31] <krzysiek> #linuxdlaszkol
[08:31] <ikonia> ignus: not sure thats possible
[08:31] <tecta> ikonia, do you have any idea?
[08:31] <SmAcKaSs> Just did install from external hard drive enclosure on my laptop and through it into my desktop. i get a very scarey error
[08:31] <ikonia> tecta: about what ?
[08:31] <dr_evil> does ubuntu support SATA hotplug? how do I enable it?
[08:31] <tecta> ikonia, why my wireless connection isn't working
[08:31] <Commander-Crowe> I screwed up my sources.list, can someone pastebin theres for me please?
[08:32] <spx2> ikonia, so you agree you have no ideea ?
[08:32] <ikonia> dr_evil: thats not a software option - thats hardware
[08:32] <ignus> ikonia: im pretty sure it is, just not sure how to do it :(
[08:32] <ikonia> tecta: not a clue as you've given me no information
[08:32] <tecta> ikonia, well i put in the correct information in the properties after selecting wireless network, but it shows it has eth1 not ath0?
[08:32] <ferret_0567__> I really hate Ubuntu 6.10's tendency to swap memory to the HD
[08:33] <ikonia> tecta: thats fine
[08:33] <tsoler> hello
[08:33] <ikonia> ferret_0567__: thanks for sharing that
[08:33] <tecta> ikonia, well i put in the information, and it doesn't connect
[08:33] <ferret_0567__> It feels not that much better than Winblows to me
[08:33] <SmAcKaSs> lol
[08:33] <ikonia> tecta: no idea
[08:33] <tsoler> ive just installed apache on ubuntu
[08:33] <spx2> tecta, ikonia is only going to tell you to read manual , that you can do alone without asking him/her , he doesnt even know what he/she 's talking about
[08:33] <sjm___> hello, I'm having trouble installing 6.10 desktop.
[08:33] <tsoler> anyone willing to help?
[08:34] <cheetah> sjm___, what problems?
[08:34] <ikonia> spx2: pardon ?
[08:34] <tecta> spx2, i've read the manual and did everything it said
[08:34] <tsoler> need to open the port 8080
[08:34] <ikonia> spx2: I think you'll find I'm pretty fine with what i'm talking about
[08:34] <Xif> how do I get a list of all currently installed packages with *foo* in their name?
[08:34] <ikonia> tsoler: why did you open 8080 for apache ?
[08:34] <ferret_0567__> ikonia, did you get a File Transfer request?
[08:34] <ikonia> Xif: dpkg -l | grep named
[08:34] <tsoler> need to  install geoserver
[08:34] <ikonia> ferret_0567__: no
[08:34] <ikonia> ferret_0567__: I don't want a file thanks
[08:34] <SmAcKaSs> Ubuntu 6.10 freezing on boot. someone want to talk about it?
[08:34] <ikonia> SmAcKaSs: what point of boot
[08:35] <ferret_0567__> It's of GNOME System Monitor
[08:35] <ikonia> ferret_0567__: I don't want that thanks
[08:35] <tsoler> ikonia: how do iopen the ports on apache?
[08:35] <ikonia> tsoler: you don't open ports on apache - apache is a web server, not a firewall
[08:35] <SmAcKaSs> the loading screen -- then in recovery mode at the usb loading it takes forever and then tells me: ALERT (let me get the error back on my screen)
[08:35] <cikas> is any player in ubuntu witch alllow mp4?
[08:35] <mindstate> having some trouble upgrading jre to 1.5 on Edgy any help
[08:35] <ikonia> SmAcKaSs: give me the exact error please
[08:36] <sjm___> On installation (6.10) I try the manually partition option and when presented with the options for mount points set everything  like I want, but  it comes back with "No root file system" (when I do have it set).  Any ideas?
[08:36] <cikas> something like xmms
[08:36] <ikonia> cikas: most do if you install the correct codec pakage
[08:36] <tsoler> ikonia:" oops. ok so what do i have to do to let them open?
[08:36] <Ranbee_> hi, can anyone help me with irssi? i lost my config file. i just want to ask how to hilight a whole sentence when my nick is mentioned?
[08:36] <SmAcKaSs> it says "Done." and then this Alert error (which i will give you in one second) the it give me the infamous "Can't access tty; job control turned off" error....
[08:36] <cikas> xmms it doesnt
[08:36] <rly> I installed ubunntu this afternoon and I can't seem to get gaim working now
[08:36] <Xif> ikonia: thanks, and is there a way to remove all these packagaes?
[08:36] <SmAcKaSs> Ikonia ^
[08:36] <ikonia> tsoler: well on ubuntu it doesn't ship with a firewall - most probably its on your routers
[08:36] <cheetah> sjm___, are you setting a partition to mount "/" ?
[08:36] <cikas> ikonia
[08:36] <tecta> IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:""  Nickname:"netgear"
[08:36] <tecta>  in iwconfig
[08:36] <ikonia> SmAcKaSs:  ok
[08:36] <cikas> what should i do?
[08:36] <tecta> but in the setting i put ESSID to netgear
[08:37] <ikonia> Xif: do a while loop and apt-remove them
[08:37] <Moniker42> how do i change my name in xchat?
[08:37] <ikonia> cikas: sorry I missed your question
[08:37] <Moniker42> how do i change my name in xchat?
[08:37] <ikonia> Moniker42: /nick $name
[08:37] <sjm___> cheetah, yes, but not the one the installer first chose.  I even checked it for reformat, too.
[08:37] <Moniker42> thanks
[08:37] <ikonia> Moniker42: only ask once please
[08:37] <cikas> how i congigure xmms to play mp4
[08:37] <erUSUL> Ranbee_: /help highlight
[08:37] <Lice> !autostart
[08:37] <tsoler> ikonia: so it propably might be open right? I mean maybe geoserver isnt running
[08:37] <ubotu> To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[08:37] <mindstate> having some trouble upgrading jre to 1.5 on Edgy any help?
[08:37] <ikonia> cikas: get the correct codec and xmms will play them, search the iwki for restricted formats
[08:37] <cheetah> sjm___, why not try the automatic partitioner?
[08:37] <SmAcKaSs> ikonia: it gets past the usbs.... "Begin: Waiting for root system... ..."
[08:37] <Moniker42> ikonia, was an accident
[08:37] <ikonia> tsoler: possibly, apache listens on port 80 by default
[08:38] <cikas> codec of what?
[08:38] <Ranbee_> erUSUL: thanks, i'll have a look.
[08:38] <ikonia> cikas: codec for mp4 support
[08:38] <ferret_0567__> My "User Memory" is: about 194 MiB of 503.7 MiB and my "Used Swap" is: 80.2 MiB of 180.4 MiB
[08:38] <Moniker42> pressed up and sent it, thought it would work from the other channel...
[08:38] <cikas> i dont know any codec for it
[08:38] <Moniker42> by the way it didn't work
[08:38] <willys_fueguino> !mp4
[08:38] <erUSUL> Ranbee_: something like /highlight -nick mynick
[08:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:38] <ikonia> Moniker42: thats how its done
[08:38] <ferret_0567__> !ram
[08:38] <ubotu> A quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html
[08:38] <mindstate> !jre
[08:39] <willys_fueguino> !mp4 | ikonia
[08:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jre - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:39] <ubotu> ikonia: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:39] <sjm___> cheetah, because I already have stuff on the disk I want to save.  I set up everything with fdisk and mkfs behind the scene and gparted recognizes this, but the "prepare mount points" doesn't work.
[08:39] <ferret_0567__> !swap
[08:39] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[08:39] <ikonia> willys_fueguino: I know about mp4 thanks
[08:39] <cikas> what codec is for mp4?
[08:39] <willys_fueguino> :-)
[08:39] <ikonia> cikas: you've just been sent a link
[08:39] <mindstate> !java
[08:39] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[08:39] <willys_fueguino> cikas: look up ;-)
[08:39] <cheetah> sjm___, sorry I can't help with this - I never had a problem manually partitioning.
[08:39] <selmanj> Ok, so I've got my exchange account working with Evolution.  I can subscribe to public folders... but I can't list any of the subfolders!   The folder I want to subscribe to is in "Central Email Services" -> "My Department", but there is no way to list "My Department"
[08:39] <SmAcKaSs> ikonia: "Begin: Waiting for root system... ..." --seems stuck there.
[08:39] <sjm___> cheetah, thanks anyway, have a good day!
[08:40] <ikonia> SmAcKaSs: thats not a real error surly - begin waiting for root system ?"
[08:40] <ferret_0567__> Oh, I can add more swap, cool
[08:40] <eleazar123> anybody know a command to list all of the current hd's in the computer?
[08:40] <ferret_0567__> Without a reformat...
[08:40] <Ranbee_> thanks erUSUL it took me about a week to find out last time. it's really simple, but i don't know what it is
[08:40] <ikonia> eleazar123: iostat en (if gnu iostat supports it)
[08:40] <andre> hello
[08:40] <ferret_0567__> I knew that I could create a filesystem inside a file but I never thought about swap space inside a file...
[08:41] <eleazar123> ikonia, command no found :( i'm in the ubuntu livecd atm
[08:41] <ikonia> ferret_0567__: we know this and don't need a commentry thanks
[08:41] <eleazar123> *not
[08:41] <ikonia> eleazar123: ahhh just launch gparted
[08:41] <willys_fueguino> !3gp
[08:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3gp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:41] <SmAcKaSs> ikonia: Ok yeah sorry, error just now came up "/dev/sda2 does not exist. dropping to shell" -- might it have something to do with the fact that i installed on USB external Hard disk enclosure, and then dropped it into the desktop??
[08:41] <andre>  would anybody know of a linux dvd burner that can burn movies converted from dvd shrink
[08:41] <willys_fueguino> anyones know how to fix the 3gps sound??
[08:41] <tsoler> ikonia: how can i run a *sh program?
[08:41] <ikonia> SmAcKaSs: ok - thats explained it
[08:41] <erUSUL> Ranbee: no problem
[08:41] <ikonia> SmAcKaSs: you can't do that
[08:42] <ikonia> tsoler: sh $program
[08:42] <eleazar123> ikonia, ah i should've been more specific, i need to know the (hdx,x) info for each drive, i know the drive i want is /dev/sdd/ but i have no idea which # of drive it is :\
[08:42] <ferret_0567__> Why does Ubuntu 6.10 seem more "swappy" than FC6?
[08:42] <SmAcKaSs> ikonia: i should be able to.
[08:42] <pv2b> ferret_0567__: maybe there's more stuff loaded into RAM?
[08:42] <kurumin> ei
[08:42] <Bug2000> My lan is working, yet I don't have access to the internet from Ubuntu.
[08:42] <kurumin> algem pode me ajudar
[08:42] <ikonia> ferret_0567__: different kernel parameters ?
[08:42] <kurumin> ?
[08:42] <ikonia> SmAcKaSs: no you can't
[08:42] <kurumin> you are abla portu ?
[08:42] <ikonia> SmAcKaSs: you can change the install to a another drive, but you can't just copy it across - you have to do other things
[08:42] <ferret_0567__> Just a sec...
[08:43] <kurumin> ?
[08:43] <willys_fueguino> ikonia: Do you know anything of how to fix 3gp sound issues??
[08:43] <SmAcKaSs> ikonia: so there is still hope with this install? what do i have to do?
[08:43] <ikonia> eleazar123: can you explain that again
[08:44] <ikonia> SmAcKaSs: you need to boot from the live cd - mount the install on the DISK (not usb) change fstab and menu.lst to point to the correct hard disk names
[08:44] <ikonia> willys_fueguino: sorry I don't
[08:44] <gareth0> hi, i have a problem with ubuntu, the mouse freezes after a minute or so every time :<
[08:44] <eleazar123> ikonia, sure, whenever i install ubuntu it screws up the grub installation, i'm about to install ubuntu now, and i'm trying to avoid it autoconfiguring grub wrong, it's going to install grub on hd0, but i think that is the incorrect drive, so i need to figure out which drive (hd#,#) that i'm installing ubuntu onto. hopefully all that makes sense
[08:44] <ikonia> willys_fueguino: I've never even heard about it
[08:44] <ikonia> eleazar123: ahh ok - two tips I can offer here
[08:44] <Bug2000> Did I just got ignored?
[08:44] <SmAcKaSs> ikonia: even if i'm using my laptop to install the system and then putting that harddrive into my desktop?
[08:45] <ikonia> whoooa you can't do that
[08:45] <ikonia> SmAcKaSs: sorry - thats not going to work
[08:45] <soundray> I need a bit of networking advice: I use a wireless interface for WAN, and I want to add a temporary wired connection. How do I make it so that setting up the wired one does not create a default route?
[08:45] <SmAcKaSs> ikonia: i was informed it would, but i guess not.
[08:45] <ikonia> eleazar123: first tip - check your /boot/grub/device.map - see if it has static mappings
[08:46] <ikonia> SmAcKaSs: no it won't
[08:46] <Bug2000> Q: My lan is working, yet I don't have access to the internet from Ubuntu.
[08:46] <willys_fueguino> ikonia: 3gp is the cell phones video format, it can be played with ffmpeg and another players, but there's a sound issue with them and the only thing you can do is watch video without sounds... so I'm loking for a fix (just giving you some tips on 3gp) ;-)
[08:46] <SmAcKaSs> ikonia: i need to get it installed but i can't get the USB flash stick to mount as the cdrom, and i have no cdrom that works in the desktop
[08:46] <derxob> Bug2000: check your DNS ? /etc/resolve.conf
[08:46] <ikonia> eleazar123: the other is tough to get across - but in the grub shell if you do something like root(hd0,0press-tab) it will sho you all the stuff on hd0,0 then you know its the right partition
[08:46] <mikejanssen> !zip
[08:46] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[08:46] <SmAcKaSs> ikonia: i thought about PXE, but i'm kinda lost there. if i could get someone to help me with that i would be up for it
[08:47] <ikonia> SmAcKaSs: you can't use a usb stick as a cdrom - installing from usb is a different trick
[08:47] <ikonia> SmAcKaSs: I've told you that before
[08:47] <eleazar123> ikonia, ah, i think that 2nd tip is what i need :) since i haven't installed ubuntu yet, i don't have a /boot/grub/device.map, or unless you mean something that was created with the livecd, i'll try that second tip now tho :)
[08:47] <SmAcKaSs> ikonia: i read the wiki on USB. with dapper and edgy
[08:47] <Bug2000> derxob, It doesn't have the 'e' in the name and has my router listed.
[08:47] <ikonia> eleazar123: second tip is what you want
[08:47] <mikejanssen> how do i make a zip/tar file inubuntu
[08:47] <ikonia> SmAcKaSs: it just doesn't work like that
[08:48] <lupine_85> tar -cf <filename> <files-to-put-in>
[08:48] <ikonia> mikejanssen: man zip or man tar
[08:48] <lupine_85> or use file-roller
[08:48] <DaveR> hi, i am trying to install xubuntu but get this error: "Warning: couldn't download package ifupdown".  what does this mean?
[08:48] <alecjw> mikejanssen, right click on it cand click on add to archuive
[08:48] <lupine_85> (which is GUI :p)
[08:48] <derxob> Bug2000: try adding a real DNS server, in case your router is not supplying DNS.  eg. 4.2.2.2 should work as a DNS server
[08:48] <Commander-Crowe> Hi! I'm running sudo apt-get update, but it won't download the repo list because it doesn't connect to my internet, but rather localhost. what doI do to change this?
[08:48] <soundray> I use a wireless interface for internet, and I want to add a temporary wired connection. How do I make it so that setting up the wired one does not create a default route?
[08:48] <mikejanssen> 'create archive' right before my eyes
[08:48] <mikejanssen> heh
[08:48] <ikonia> Commander-Crowe: your not running a repo on your localhost
[08:48] <mikejanssen> but
[08:48] <mikejanssen> that makes it a tar.gz file
[08:48] <SmAcKaSs> ikonia: are you saying that the wiki is false? its just not possible with usb? (reguardless i need a method to install)
[08:48] <mikejanssen> can a windows user open that?
[08:49] <eleazar123> ikonia, in the grub shell when i type root(dh0,press-tab it just goes to the next line and doesn't list anything :\
[08:49] <alecjw> mikejanssen, you can select the type from a list
[08:49] <SmAcKaSs> mikejanssen: WinRAR will open it
[08:49] <Bug2000> derxob, Same problem.
[08:49] <mikejanssen> sweet] 
[08:49] <mikejanssen> heh
[08:49] <ikonia> SmAcKaSs:  its totally possible to use a usb stick, but its a different technique - you don't use it as a cdrom
[08:49] <Commander-Crowe> ikonia it says it is
[08:49] <derxob> Bug2000: but you can ping your router?
[08:49] <Bug2000> derxob, Ok, I can ping ip's so it must be the dns.
[08:49] <ikonia> eleazar123: that should work do root (hd0,0/press-tab
[08:49] <derxob> Bug2000: exactly.
[08:49] <ikonia> Commander-Crowe: its not
[08:49] <ferret_0567__> I'm leaving
[08:50] <SmAcKaSs> ikonia: oh, so i just misunderstood the wiki.
[08:50] <SmAcKaSs> ikonia: so how should i go about installing?
[08:50] <ikonia> SmAcKaSs: yes, do you remember I told you this and explained that device names will never match so it will never work like that
[08:50] <DaveR> i am trying to install xubuntu but get this error: "Warning: couldn't download package ifupdown". what does this mean?
[08:50] <Bug2000> derxob, should I rename the file to resolve.conf from resolv.conf?
[08:50] <eleazar123> ikonia, ah i was missing the space between root and ( :)
[08:50] <alecjw> mikejanssen, you need 3rd party apps in windowsd to open tgz. it's better to stick with zip
[08:50] <ikonia> eleazar123: spot on
[08:50] <derxob> Bug2000: no, that was my mistake. it doesn't have an e
[08:50] <Sixer> If something in init.d is hanging my boot, whats the best way to find out what it is ?
[08:50] <mikejanssen> i just put it in a tar
[08:50] <Commander-Crowe> ikonia well rather it says it connot resolve localhost
[08:50] <mikejanssen> = X
[08:51] <SmAcKaSs> ikonia: yes i do. i still have image mounted to USB, could that still work?
[08:51] <ikonia> Sixer: watch the boot message
[08:51] <cheetah> DaveR, is your network device down?
[08:51] <Sixer> ikonia: The last one I see is that of a working init script
[08:51] <derxob> Bug2000: remove your router from it and put nameserver 4.2.2.2 and save it.
[08:51] <Bug2000> derxob, Sec.
[08:51] <soundray> Sixer: remove 'quiet splash' from your boot options
[08:51] <ikonia> Sixer: so look in rc2 - and its the script after the last working one
[08:51] <alecjw> mikejanssen, same same goes for tar. zip is the only one a windows user can opoen without osemthing like 7zip or winrar
[08:51] <DaveR> cheetah: i don't have it conected to a network, does it need to be connected to a network to install?
[08:51] <mikejanssen> oh well
[08:51] <Yashy> Can anyone help with an initramfs issue? http://www.pastebin.ca/334707
[08:51] <mikejanssen> he has winrar
[08:51] <mikejanssen> so he's golden
[08:51] <Sixer> soundray: hmm, will try that
[08:51] <mikejanssen> = X
[08:52] <Sixer> ikonia: Where is runlevel 2 specifically? I'm looking in /etc/init.d
[08:52] <ikonia> Sixer: /etc/r2.d
[08:52] <pbureau> mikejanssen, you can open tarballs with winrar
[08:52] <ikonia> rc2.d
[08:52] <Sixer> thanks
[08:52] <Bug2000> derxob, Workies, thanks. Got any others to add to the list?
[08:52] <eleazar123> ikonia, ok my newbness is going to show through :\ when i hit tab (i have 6 drives) it shows hd0, hd1, hd2, etc etc, but all of them only have (hd#,0), how can i figure out which drive i'm going to be installing on?
[08:52] <cheetah> DaveR, it shouldn't have to be connected, but it sounds like that is what it is complaining about (or maybe it can't find a network device)  Try connecting to the internet and installing.
[08:52] <alecjw> mikejanssen, lol. ok, but for anyone who doesnt have winrar or 7zip, use zip instead
[08:52] <soundray> Please help with my network issue: how can I delete an extra spurious default route? I experimented with 'sudo route del', but it's stubborn...
[08:52] <ProN00b> the edit menu function is kinda buggy
[08:53] <derxob> Bug2000: I'd check with your ISP and add theirs, though 4.2.2.2 is nice, it routes to your local area no matter where you are
[08:53] <Commander-Crowe> ikonia http://pastebin.ca/336035
[08:53] <ikonia> eleazar123: well 9 out of time times your boot disk is hd0 - but the bit you want is root so if you do root(hd1,0/press-tab it will show you the file system, so you know if its the ubntu one or not
[08:53] <Bug2000> derxob, How do I check via my win
[08:53] <derxob> Bug2000: windows?
[08:53] <Bug2000> ya.
[08:53] <derxob> Bug2000: start > run > cmd > ipconfig /all
[08:53] <eleazar123> ikonia, ahh i see, only problem is that all of them are ntfs atm, b/c i'm about to install ubuntu i haven't formatted the drive with ext3 and stuff yet
[08:53] <ikonia> Commander-Crowe: its because you have no network conneciton
[08:54] <SmAcKaSs> ikonia: what is my best option for installation?
[08:54] <ikonia> eleazar123: then your out of luck
[08:54] <Commander-Crowe> ikonia then how am I talkignto you?
[08:54] <ikonia> SmAcKaSs: cdrom ?
[08:54] <ikonia> Commander-Crowe: no idea - thought you may have been on another box. In /etc/hosts to you have a localhost entry ?
[08:54] <SmAcKaSs> ikonia: how? i have no working cdrom in the desktop. (they are win-ware drives, linux can not work off of them)
[08:55] <DaveR> cheetah: can it connect to the internet when it is in the 'dos' look of the install?
[08:55] <ikonia> SmAcKaSs: network boot, or learn how to do the usb setup
[08:55] <v_> hi. what package in ubuntu is equivalent to the debian package raidtools2?
[08:55] <mike1o> is there a ps2 emulator for ubuntu?
[08:55] <SmAcKaSs> ikonia: i've been trying to do the USB setup for days and days. what am i doing wrong with it?
[08:55] <ikonia> v_: raidtool2
[08:55] <ikonia> SmAcKaSs: you're approaching it toally wrong
[08:55] <lupine_85> mike1o: yes, but I've never gotten it compiled
[08:55] <cute_bettong> can anyone help me with a sound issue?
[08:55] <SmAcKaSs> ikona: can you explain?
[08:55] <lupine_85> it's still all very experimental stuff - even on windows
[08:56] <mike1o> lupine_85: is it psemu?
[08:56] <soundray> cute_bettong: someone might, if you say what it is.
[08:56] <pbureau> mike1o, you can get it in ubuntu's synaptic (if gnome)
[08:56] <lupine_85> mike1o: dunno
[08:56] <lupine_85> no
[08:56] <lupine_85> it's PCSX2
[08:56] <ikonia> SmAcKaSs: I've tried a few times with you - but you don't seem to grasp it
[08:56] <lupine_85> or PSCX2. something like that
[08:56] <v_> hm
[08:57] <Ricket> What is the complement to apt-get that lets me see the list of packages? I have forgotten the command, I don't use ubuntu often...
[08:57] <SmAcKaSs> ikonia: the boot works. so my failure is in the mounting, no?
[08:57] <cheetah> DaveR, I'm not sure.  The error message has something to do with your network connection though.
[08:57] <v_> ikonia: i can't find that package
[08:57] <ikonia> SmAcKaSs: no - it doesn't work like you think
[08:57] <ikonia> v_: it may not exist
[08:57] <soundray> Ricket: what list? Do you mean apt-cache?
[08:57] <DaveR> cheetah: ok, next problem is it doesn't have a network connection in the back for me to hook it up.
[08:57] <Ricket> soundray: No, there is a program...
[08:57] <v_> ikonia: is raidtools2 obsolete?
[08:57] <ikonia> v_: I don't know
[08:57] <v_> ikonia: ok, thanks anyway
[08:57] <Ricket> soundray: and it lists all the packages, or packages that start with letters you specify
[08:57] <SmAcKaSs> ikonia: ok well if i have the image on the USB, and it boots. what is next?
[08:57] <soundray> Ricket: dpkg -l
[08:58] <Ricket> ah yes that's it! thanks
[08:58] <ikonia> SmAcKaSs: it doesn't work like that
[08:58] <ikonia> SmAcKaSs: booting is easy because its just a boot block
[08:58] <v_> how does one go about setting up arrays etc w/out raidtools
[08:58] <v_> anyone know?
[08:58] <ikonia> but the devices are different - usb is not a cdrom
[08:58] <ikonia> v_: madam
[08:58] <ikonia> mdadm
[08:59] <SmAcKaSs> ikonia: so is it possible to load the OS from the USB stick? and if so can we try that?
[08:59] <v_> ikonia: mdadm loads them at boot, but it doesn't create them does it?
[08:59] <Bug2000> derxob, Thanks a lot1
[08:59] <tom_> yeah you can load the os from a usb stick
[08:59] <derxob> Bug2000: np
[08:59] <ikonia> SmAcKaSs: yes - but thats a totally different technique
[08:59] <SmAcKaSs> ikonia: well lets begin.
[08:59] <ikonia> SmAcKaSs: its tough to setup - but I think there is a usb image out there
[09:00] <v_> ikonia: n/m
[09:00] <v_> ikonia: according to the package description, it does
[09:00] <ikonia> v_: it does create them - mdadm --help ;)
[09:00] <M3G4crux> hi
[09:00] <v_> ikonia: yea, i see that now. i was always under the impression that mdadm was just for administration. n/m
[09:00] <soundray> Woa! 22 MB/s via Gigabit Ethernet using scp. Is that a good result? Or to be expected?
[09:01] <v_> ikonia: thanks
[09:01] <M3G4crux> I am having problems with update-notifier, it does not show
[09:01] <ikonia> v_: no problem
[09:01] <SmAcKaSs> ikonia: someone should delete that USB Keychain wiki then no? it is not a true one?
[09:02] <soundray> M3G4crux: have you added it to System-Preferences-Sessions-Startup Programs?
[09:02] <ikonia> SmAcKaSs: it may is fine - you're just not gettin git
[09:02] <v_> one more thing, is there a current software raid howto out there?
[09:02] <ikonia> getting it
[09:02] <M3G4crux> I think it runs since the session start
[09:02] <M3G4crux> but let me check
[09:02] <St3althy> hi
[09:02] <St3althy> im trying to identify my ubuntu webserver user
[09:02] <St3althy> i did this and it didnt tell me anything
[09:03] <St3althy> grep "^User" /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
[09:03] <ikonia> St3althy: why did you do that ?
[09:03] <mkander> I have downloaded the iso file for Desktop Ubuntu to a partition on the harddrive. I want to install Ubuntu now, but I dont have any floppy or cdrom on this ultraportable. All I have is a USB flash. How can I solve this?
[09:03] <M3G4crux> soundray, yes it appears in the session preferences
[09:03] <soundray> SmAcKaSs: I concur with ikonia. You should probably take a bit of time out for experimenting and identifying your assumptions (the wrong ones)
[09:03] <cheetah> DaveR, you don't have a nic in your computer?  Weird, I don't know what Ubuntu is complaining about then?
[09:04] <SmAcKaSs> ikonia: it claims that with the Alternate CD ISO i can load ubuntu on my computer. YOU are claiming i need a special USB iso. who is correct?
[09:04] <SmAcKaSs> ikonia: it claims that with the Alternate CD ISO i can load ubuntu on my computer. YOU are claiming i need a special USB iso. who is correct?
[09:04] <mkander> I have a seperate partition with only the ubuntu iso file and much free space (unpartitioned) on the HD
[09:04] <SmAcKaSs> sorry for repost
[09:04] <cute_bettong> ok the issue that i am haveing is i have a soundblaster live 5.1 and i am sick of hearing the feed back and ecco through my own speakers....the feedback is not so bad.....but the ecco...everything i say comes back to me through my speakerrs.....is there a way to tell ubuntu to not do that?
[09:04] <ikonia> SmAcKaSs: well, from experience you have to change the boot/image process to boot from usb
[09:04] <M3G4crux> my update-notifier stopped working after I upgraded to Edgy
[09:04] <soundray> M3G4crux: and is it running? ps aux | grep update-notifier | grep -v grep
[09:04] <M3G4crux> I have just killed it
[09:04] <St3althy> ikonia: i am installing nagios
[09:04] <M3G4crux> and launch it again to see if it showed any message
[09:05] <ikonia> SmAcKaSs: St3althywhat did you expect to get back from grep ^user ?
[09:05] <ikonia> oops not at SmAcKaSs
[09:05] <soundray> M3G4crux: are you aware that it doesn't show itself unless there are uninstalled updates available?
[09:05] <M3G4crux> yes
[09:05] <SmAcKaSs> ikonia: is that done with the alternate cdrom iso, or a usb iso that "might exist" out there as you said?
[09:05] <Sentinel> I got 2.4 GB music videos, want to burn them on a DVD... k3b or DeVeDe?
[09:05] <St3althy> ikonia; i am trying to identify the user my webserver runs as
[09:05] <M3G4crux> in fact I have run update manager and it shows several updates ready
[09:06] <ikonia> SmAcKaSs: I've seen messages about a usb image, but I've never used it
[09:06] <ikonia> SmAcKaSs: I've always made my own boot usb devices
[09:06] <ikonia> St3althy: its nobody
[09:06] <Sentinel> any1?
[09:06] <St3althy> ikonia: so the user is - nobody
[09:06] <ikonia> yes
[09:06] <SmAcKaSs> ikonia: have you done it with edgy or dapper?
[09:06] <St3althy> ok let me try
[09:06] <ikonia> dapper last time
[09:06] <M3G4crux> now!!!
[09:06] <ikonia> but the process should be the same
[09:06] <M3G4crux> finally
[09:06] <ikonia> maybe a minor change due to the init processes
[09:07] <M3G4crux> thanks for your help Soundray
[09:07] <riotkittie> ooh. i'd forgotten how annoying it was to send irsii to the background, forget about it for a while, then fg it and have to deal with the scroll of epileptic seizure inducing doom
[09:07] <SmAcKaSs> ikonia: i feel like we are dancing here, can we please try that?
[09:07] <ikonia> SmAcKaSs: I don't really want to walk you through that
[09:07] <M3G4crux> I am going to check if it loads when I start the session
[09:07] <M3G4crux> goodbye
[09:08] <mzanfardino> I've installed both ubuntu-desktop and kbuntu-desktop and I want to select the alternate windows manager (I'm laoding gdm, I want to load kdm).  how do I select the alternate manager?
[09:08] <SmAcKaSs> ikonia: well at least your honest. could you lead me through a PXE maybe? i was confused by the .tar.gz that i got
[09:08] <soundray> ikonia: would you be interested in doing that another time, in the classroom maybe?
[09:08] <ikonia> SmAcKaSs: there is a good guide on the wikie
[09:08] <soundray> ikonia: because I'd certainly be interested
[09:08] <okaratas> hello
[09:08] <Ricket> is there an apt-get package for the flash player in firefox?
[09:08] <ikonia> soundray: if enough people are interested, as its quite long winded
[09:08] <SmAcKaSs> ikonia: do you have a link maybe?
[09:08] <tom_> !flash
[09:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:08] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[09:08] <SmAcKaSs> ikonia: i've not found it
[09:09] <soundray> ikonia: oh, I haven't found a ubuntu-specific guide either...
[09:09] <xjjk> mzanfardino: dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[09:09] <xjjk> mzanfardino: doing that doesn't change window managers, it changes the display/login manager
[09:09] <mzanfardino> xjjk, awesome, thank you!
[09:09] <mzanfardino> xjjk, yes, I know, that's what I meant.
[09:09] <xjjk> np
[09:10] <Commander-Crowe> ikonia I still get the smae error
[09:10] <mike1o> pbureau: is it possible to open an iso image in pcsx?
[09:11] <SmAcKaSs> does anyone have a link to a PXE wiki page that is good?
[09:12] <Stormx2> What should I do about this? Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/catacombae/dmgx/DMGExtractor
[09:12] <pbureau> mike1o, I dunno
[09:12] <Stormx2> (when trying to launch a java app)
[09:12] <wimdows> hi guys
[09:12] <mike1o> pbureau: tnx
[09:12] <Stormx2> hey wimdows
[09:12] <JayBelark> Hey wimdows
[09:12] <wimdows> who has got asp.net support working on MD?
[09:12] <soundray> SmAcKaSs: probably http://ltsp.mirrors.tds.net/pub/ltsp/docs/ltsp-4.1-en.html (section 3.1)
[09:13] <Stormx2> wimdows: MD?
[09:13] <SmAcKaSs> soundtray: ty
[09:13] <wimdows> oh sorry - MonoDevelop ;-)
[09:13] <SmAcKaSs> soundray* lol
[09:13] <Stormx2> blah, I know nothing of it...
[09:13] <kitche> Stormx2: probably monoDevelop
[09:13] <yomm> anyine using jinzora ??
[09:14] <wimdows> Stormx2 - ah ok, shame
[09:14] <yomm> anyone*
[09:14] <tom_> !anyone
[09:14] <Radish> hey I have two HDs in my PC- a 40gb one with windows XP home on it, and another 200gb one with ubuntu on it
[09:14] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:14] <kitche> wimdows: does mono support asp.net? I don't use mono that much so I m not sure that's why I asked
[09:14] <Radish> I would like to remove ubuntu and use the second HD for storage
[09:14] <Radish> how can I do that safely?
[09:14] <Radish> I can't take any risks
[09:14] <Stormx2> Radish: Are you using grub?
[09:14] <Radish> yes
[09:14] <Stormx2> Radish: What OS are you intending to use?
[09:14] <Radish> just the XP I have installed
[09:14] <wimdows> kitche: yep - there's a mod_mono module for Apache as well as a lightweight webserver XSP....
[09:15] <Stormx2> Radish: Do you have an XP disk handy?
[09:15] <Radish> no
[09:15] <Radish> XP came with my PC
[09:15] <Stormx2> You need one, really...
[09:15] <pbureau> anyone using a gnome interfaced anti-virus that runs in the background (a.la mcafee) all the time..? I curretly have Aegis but is a scan on demand only.
[09:15] <stephen_> i need help with my broadcom4306 wireless card
[09:15] <Ricket> How do I add the "Backports repository" in Ubuntu 6.10? I have a (presumably) newer, or at least very different, Synaptics package manager than the instructions show...
[09:15] <wimdows> pbureau: why would you need a virus scanner on linux? ;-)
[09:15] <kitche> wimdows: serving windows machines  :)
[09:16] <tom_> Radish: just reformat your ubuntu partitions to a windows friendly format with a live cd.
[09:16] <yomm> to scan yer windoz files of course :)
[09:16] <soundray> Radish: boot from Ubuntu live and resize the Ubuntu partition as small as you can. Then create a storage partition in the space you won. Keep the minimized ubuntu around, just in case. No need to mess with your bootloader.
[09:16] <wimdows> kitche - aye!
[09:16] <pbureau> wimdows, well someone mentioned having a bvoot partion infected with monkey.b
[09:16] <Lice> !updateheaders
[09:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about updateheaders - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:16] <Lice> :/
[09:16] <Lice> how to update headers?
[09:16] <wimdows> pbureau - ugh not nice
[09:16] <yomm> !jinzora
[09:16] <Lice> kernel headers..
[09:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jinzora - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:16] <Lice> !kernelheaders
[09:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kernelheaders - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:16] <soundray> Lice: 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers'
[09:16] <Radish> thx soundray sounds good
[09:16] <yomm> !gallery
[09:16] <Stormx2> Lice: What? Theres a package in the repos...
[09:17] <ubotu> gallery: a web-based photo album written in php. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5.3-2 (edgy), package size 7734 kB, installed size 27668 kB
[09:17] <soundray> Lice: don't fish with the bot please
[09:17] <JayBelark> Whoa now. Is there a Total beginners channel where I can Iask questions like "Why use Ubnutu?" and stuuf?
[09:17] <thomas__> kann hier auch einer deutsch
[09:17] <yomm> !gallery2
[09:17] <riotkittie> he can get by w/o teh xp cd. he just needs six [?]  floppies. he can d ownload the recovery console from M$'s site
[09:17] <soundray> thomas__: nee
[09:17] <Stormx2> Guys. /msg the bot, kay?
[09:17] <ubotu> gallery2: web-based photo album written in PHP. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.1-1 (edgy), package size 10012 kB, installed size 126092 kB
[09:17] <riotkittie> JayBelark: ask 'em here.
[09:17] <soundray> thomas__: gehe zu #ubuntu-de
[09:17] <rashed202> Hello everyone
[09:17] <tom_> thomas__: GRRR!
[09:17] <thomas__> danke !!!
[09:17] <cheetah> hi rashed202
[09:17] <inono> this channel makes me cry sometimes
[09:17] <riotkittie> wow didnt Radish just install ubuntu yesterday?
[09:17] <JayBelark> Oh. Okay, well that would be question one. Why should I use Ubnutu over the XP I already have?
[09:17] <tom_> !de
[09:17] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:18] <tom_> ;)
[09:18] <inono> JayBelark, nobody is here to convince you of anything, use windows if you like
[09:18] <cheetah> JayBelark: freedom
[09:18] <Ricket> !jp
[09:18] <ubotu>  #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp 
[09:18] <JayBelark> I've been a windows user for years and have been kinda watching linux. this is the first time it caught me attention.
[09:18] <riotkittie> JayBelark: i cant answer that. i have my reasons, but my reasons... are mine.
[09:18] <inono> JayBelark, the right question would be the pros and cons of using Ubuntu
[09:18] <kitche> JayBelark: look up windows vs linux there is ton of pages out there
[09:18] <Lice> Stormx2:  how do i select a header?
[09:18] <rashed202> Guys, I'm trying to install ubuntu but I'm having trouble
[09:18] <Stormx2> Lice: Explain what you are trying to do
[09:18] <Lice> Stormx2: Package linux-headers is a virtual package provided by:
[09:18] <rashed202> I'm using the TV as a monitor.. and the screen just keeps scrolling
[09:18] <wimdows> it's not a matter of windows vs linux guys
[09:19] <rashed202> guessing something with the refresh rate
[09:19] <tom_> JayBelark: download a live cd and see for yourself!
[09:19] <JayBelark> Okay. Question to, How steep is the learning curve for changing over from windows to linux?
[09:19] <Stormx2> rashed202: It scrolls from left to right or something?
[09:19] <kittyhawk> JayBelark: I like to think of it the same way I think of driving a standard transmission vs. an automatic.
[09:19] <Lice> Stormx2: You should explicitly select one to install.
[09:19] <riotkittie> JayBelark: honestly, it depends on the user. if youre willing to use the help available to you, its not bad
[09:19] <Lice> and there are diffrent ones to select..
[09:19] <rashed202> no no,, up and down
[09:19] <tom_> JayBelark: it'll take you a couple months, just because you'll be relating everything to how things are done in linux. But once you forget that, ubuntu's very simple to use.
[09:19] <zack> from the ubuntu live cd can i mount a windows hard drive to view the files?
[09:19] <wimdows> I don't have a choice when it comes to web development professionally, you know - the thing that gets you bread on the table
[09:20] <kitche> JayBelark: with ubuntu it's not hard as some of the other flavors of linux
[09:20] <stephen_> just to let you all know
[09:20] <stephen_> al gore discovered the interweb
[09:20] <riotkittie> and the help is out there in massive amounts... be it in documents, how-tos, the forums, and, well, this chan :p
[09:20] <asdf_> how do I get support for wmv9dmo on mplayer?
[09:20] <Stormx2> JayBelark: Check your PM, I'll walk you through it.
[09:20] <Lice> Stormx2: got it now thx
[09:20] <tom_> JayBelark: go to the website, download a live cd image, burn it to a disc, and try it out. it won't affect your windows installation if you get cold feet.
[09:20] <wimdows> anyway - so none of you guys have tried the ASP.NET addin for MonoDevelop?
[09:20] <kitche> zack: yes mount -t ntfs /dev/xxx /media/windows make sure that /media/windows exist and xxx is the windows partition
[09:20] <JayBelark> Thank you very mych Stormx2
[09:21] <pbureau> how can I set in cron (I beleived it is in cron you do this) schedule a program to launch and scan my hdd for viruses.?
[09:21] <Ricket> What program of Ubuntu do I open a .i386.rpm file with? Double-clicking it doesn't work...
[09:21] <zack> kitche, thanks, do i have to mkdir the windows folder?
[09:21] <kitche> wimdows: only thing that I did in Mono is VB but never got anything to compile with mono
[09:21] <gareth0> how can i install ubuntu and not overwrite my windows partition?
[09:21] <yomm> JayBelark , yeah don't start compiling Gentoo , start with an relatively easy distro , like Ubuntu
[09:21] <soundray> Ricket: you don't
[09:21] <Stormx2> JayBelark: I sent you a message, did you receive it?
[09:21] <kitche> zack: probably sudo mkdir /media/windows
[09:21] <pbureau> Ricket, you need a rpm package manager
[09:21] <soundray> Ricket: what are you trying to install?
[09:21] <wimdows> Was on a channel on irc.gimp.net last night - no one said a word....
[09:21] <JayBelark> Yes I did. I also reasponded I thought
[09:21] <riotkittie> Ricket: alien. install alien.
[09:21] <Ricket> soundray: there is a program form too, i'll just get that
[09:21] <wimdows> This is a tad more lively
[09:21] <riotkittie> it will convert rpms to debs
[09:21] <yomm> ubuntu has very goop support & how to's for beginners & intermediates
[09:21] <Stormx2> Ricket: You can use alien to convert it to a .deb
[09:21] <yomm> good*
[09:22] <kittyhawk> My wireless card stopped working when apt upgraded from 2.6.15-27 kernel to 2.6.17-10
[09:22] <soundray> Ricket: what?
[09:22] <riotkittie> but be aware. .. that may be risky
[09:22] <riotkittie> mmm. goooooop.
[09:22] <kittyhawk> I've been booting the older kernel, but now I'm having trouble getting nvidia drivers installed.
[09:22] <meal3837> soundray, don't you ever eat/sleep?
[09:22] <Stormx2> hahahaha
[09:22] <meal3837> seriously, how long have you been here? lol
[09:22] <tom_> speaking of eating...
[09:22] <Stormx2> JayBelark: Doesn't look like it.
[09:22] <yomm> riotkittie : how can it be dangerous ?
[09:23] <soundray> meal3837: I have, I'm nice and full now. Didn't have to do the cooking, too :)
[09:23] <wimdows> darn - looks like I have to impress a colleague of mine without the ASP.NET addin then....
[09:23] <kittyhawk> can anyone help me either a) fix the wireless problem, b) install the nvidia drivers on the 2.6.15 kernel, or c) point me in the right direction to find help?
[09:23] <meal3837> soundray: nice
[09:23] <rashed202> No way to change the refresh rate for the installation?
[09:23] <tom_> !wireless
[09:23] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:23] <Stormx2> rashed202: You can. Its stored in your xorg.conf file, methinks
[09:23] <tom_> !nvidia
[09:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:23] <soundray> meal3837: but you're right to point out that I spend too much time here.
[09:23] <abarbaccia> hey all - my hdd has an inconsistancy error and it says to run fsck manually and asks for a root password - but there is no root password on my machine - what do i do?
[09:23] <wimdows> rashed202: refresh rate? isn't everyone on LCD's these days? ;-)
[09:23] <JayBelark> Stormx2: It says I haven't registered so I can't reaspond to PMs
[09:23] <rashed202> I'm using a TV
[09:23] <pbureau> wimdows, AH ! good thing I run it once a day my anti virus.. just downloaded picassa from google and guess what ? --> The file //opt/picasa/wine/drive_c/Program Files/wine_gecko/components/appshell.dll is infected with the W32/Magistr.a@MM virus!
[09:24] <abarbaccia> hey all - my hdd has an inconsistancy error and it says to run fsck manually and asks for a root password - but there is no root password on my machine - what do i do?
[09:24] <rashed202> trying to make a linux HTPC
[09:24] <Stormx2> JayBelark: Ah. /msg nickserv register <yourpassword>
[09:24] <riotkittie> abarbaccia: try your own password ?
[09:24] <meal3837> soundray: it's ok, we all have our vices
[09:24] <abarbaccia> riotkittie: no dice
[09:24] <wimdows> pbureau: you must be joking!!!! I only recently downloaded this from Google...
[09:24] <riotkittie> abarbaccia: can you sudo fsck ?
[09:24] <abarbaccia> its sitting asking me for a root password to log in
[09:24] <pbureau> wimdows, do you think I would joke about this.... get aegis and run it
[09:24] <soundray> meal3837: I'll switch to another one now and drink a dram of whisky with the missus
[09:25] <tom_> pbureau: where did you download picasa from?
[09:25] <soundray> meal3837: bye
[09:25] <pbureau> tom : google web site
[09:25] <wimdows> soundray - sounds lovely, single malt?
[09:25] <meal3837> soundray: enjoy
[09:25] <meal3837> I wsih I had a missus . . . and whiskey
[09:25] <soundray> wimdows: don't know yet -- finished the 16yr Lagavulin the other night :(
[09:25] <tom_> pbureau: it must be a false positive. Google wouldn't put junk like that into a program, especially one with an open source.
[09:26] <riotkittie> me too. chicks and booze <3
[09:26] <eooon> was there a problem with the Beryl updates i got this morning? Everything was working fine, but after installing those and rebooting nothing works. Beryl is running, but there is "no effects"
[09:26] <meal3837> yes!
[09:26] <wimdows> soundray - don't make me drool...Bushmills I like
[09:26] <PirateHead> tom_: picasa isn't open source, last I checked.
[09:26] <soundray> meal3837: cheers
[09:26] <tom_> eooon: omg i'm not rebooting now!
[09:26] <wimdows> Then Oban is lurvely too
[09:26] <riotkittie> eooon: probably. beryl's beta isnt it?
[09:27] <tsoler> guys need some helpo with installing geoserver . I am completely novice to linux
[09:27] <pierrelourens> yay. got ubuntu's resolution right :)
[09:27] <meal3837> riotkittie: according to ubuntu, beryl's alpha
[09:27] <eooon> I dont know, im just asking if its a "common" problem or if its just me
[09:27] <tom_> PirateHead: oh it installs with a binary?? hrmmm forgot that. i thought it had an available source.
[09:27] <wimdows> eooon - try and run beryl-xgl
[09:27] <riotkittie> meal3837: ah. even better, heh
[09:27] <wimdows> see if that fixes it
[09:27] <PirateHead> tom_: it installs as a binary under Wine.
[09:27] <eooon> all passed
[09:27] <tom_> PirateHead: picasa has a linux version.
[09:27] <rashed202> people! would anyone give me 2 mins of his/her time please! I promise i'll go away then! =P
[09:27] <tsoler> how can i cd to a folder on my desktop?
[09:27] <pbureau> tom_,  I dunno but I trust a virus is possible on a dll
[09:27] <meal3837> I should eat lunch, who wants to feed me?
[09:28] <PirateHead> tom_: I know. It still uses Wine. Try it.
[09:28] <tom_> !anyone | rashed202
[09:28] <ubotu> rashed202: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:28] <riotkittie> eooon: dunno but i do know beryl updates a few days, maybe a week ago, resulted in mass breakage ... so its possible.
[09:28] <cheetah> tsoler: cd ~/Desktop
[09:28] <wimdows> yeah - pbureau: I got Picasa running here on Edgy...no Wine needed
[09:28] <gareth0> how can i make the desktop cd install let me dual boot!
[09:28] <eooon> is there a way to "undo" all system changes done the last few hours? (Im new to ubuntu, used to windows :P )
[09:28] <rashed202> I already asked!! got no "real" answers
[09:28] <tom_> PirateHead: i did not know that. I knew the GUI looked different, but i didn't know it installed wine as well. thats kinda low brow if you ask me :o
[09:28] <pbureau> wimdows, where you get it from ?
[09:28] <Gorg2> I'm new to this whole thing, and am considering switching to Ubuntu.  I have a Dell Inspiron 1100.  Any probs with installing on this computer?
[09:28] <nomasteryoda> wimdows, picasa has wine built in
[09:28] <deg0nz> bin ree!!
[09:28] <meal3837> tsoler: keep in mind that linux . . . all of linux is case sensitive
[09:28] <pierrelourens> is it easier to install compiz or beryl
[09:29] <tom_> !grub | gareth0
[09:29] <wimdows> pbureau - installed it through Automatix2
[09:29] <ubotu> gareth0: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:29] <gareth0> i dont want to erase all my hdd and i dont know how to edit the partition manully
[09:29] <cheetah> gareth0: it gives you the option during install on the partitioning screen.
[09:29] <guerby> hi, what do I need to install so that sound juicer lame mp3 are id3 tagged properly?
[09:29] <PirateHead> wimdows: Picasa installs its own special local copy of Wine.
[09:29] <riotkittie> Gorg2: it should work but give the Live CD a test and see how it goes
[09:29] <pbureau> wimdows, I did that yesterday... ended having to toss feisty.. too buggy I am back on 6.10 now
[09:29] <Gorg2> ok, thanks
[09:29] <alienseer23> can anyone recommend a good usenet downloader for ubuntu??
[09:29] <PirateHead> wimdows: No need to install from Automatix either. There's a deb package for it.
[09:29] <tom_> !mp3 | guerby
[09:29] <ubotu> guerby: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:29] <cheetah> alienseer23: pan
[09:29] <wimdows> PirateHead - ok
[09:29] <gareth0> how can i fix my screen so that it not hanging of the edge??
[09:29] <alienseer23> cheetah, will pan assemble files from nzb?
[09:30] <PirateHead> eooon: There's no built-in way to roll back "a few hours".
[09:30] <gareth0> so the desktop fits in the actaully screen
[09:30] <cheetah> alienseer23: yep
[09:30] <tom_> gareth0: there should be some buttons on the front of your monitor....
[09:30] <wimdows> PirateHead - and sure enough there's a package for it, I understand Automatix is just a GUI wrapper...
[09:30] <tom_> gareth0: reach out with your fingers and push some!
[09:30] <alienseer23> ok, thanks :)
[09:30] <PirateHead> eooon: You can make backups on a regular basis or you can have a rotating backup system that continually refreshes your backups.
[09:30] <wimdows> just saying that's how I installed it
[09:30] <meal3837> gareth0: that's generally adjusted on the monitor, unless your using a laptop, in which case, I have no idea
[09:30] <gareth0> tom_: i cant do that becuase then i will have to change them every time i boot into windows....i
[09:30] <PirateHead> wimdows: I was under the impression that Automatix is different somehow. I don't use it myself, so I don't know.
[09:31] <Hoosteen> howdy
[09:31] <wimdows> PirateHead - as far as I know - it simply grabs packages and dpkg 'es them
[09:31] <riotkittie> speaking of laptops and monitors... :D
[09:32] <Hoosteen> i was wondering if someone had some time to help me a bit...i'm new to linux and new to ubuntu :)
[09:32] <meal3837> gareth0: my monitor try's to auto-adjust to the ubuntu splash scree, which is in the middle of black, so it's always skewed left . . . as far as I know, there's no real way around this
[09:32] <wimdows> it's a handy little tool, but just runs common scripts under the bonnet
[09:32] <PirateHead> wimdows: That's what Synaptic does.
[09:32] <kitche> !automatix|wimdows
[09:32] <ubotu> wimdows: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[09:32] <alecjw> Hoosteen, what do you need help with
[09:32] <rashed202> How do I change the refresh rate before I install?? I can not see the installation as my screen (using a TV here) just keeps scrolling vertically!
[09:32] <riotkittie> Hoosteen: hi. what do  you need help with?
[09:32] <w1jrm> hey can anyone help me out
[09:32] <Hoosteen> getting my wireless working
[09:32] <w1jrm> i did a booboo and can not figure out how to fix it
[09:32] <alecjw> Hoosteen, do you know what chip you card has
[09:32] <gu014> is there a command i can use to see who is connected to my box via ssh?
[09:33] <riotkittie> Hoosteen: what chipset?  if you dont know, open a term and type lspci
[09:33] <meal3837> !ask | w1jrm
[09:33] <ubotu> w1jrm: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:33] <FactTech> Question: I'm having trouble mounting a floppy. I took a look at my /etc/fstab file, and I noted that the line for the floppy references /dev/ instead of /dev/fd0 as I've seen in some howto examples. Is this a problem?
[09:33] <wimdows> PirateHead - but I guess Automatix grabs the debs from known locations without screwing your repositories list....
[09:33] <cheetah> gu014: w
[09:33] <PirateHead> @kitche and wimdows: that's what I'd been told too. That automatix does things different somehow and breaks stuff.
[09:33] <riotkittie> gu014: w ?
[09:33] <Hoosteen> yes..it's a Broadcom 4318...i went through the tutorial in the Timps and Tricks section on the forums but now when i open Networking, my wireless card doesn't show up
[09:33] <w1jrm> ok well how do i find the list of repositores for ubuntu so i can readd them
[09:33] <tom_> !repositories
[09:33] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[09:33] <alecjw> Hoosteen, do you know how to use ndiswrapper?
[09:34] <wimdows> Well -it hasn't broken any stuff for me so far, and for most things I'm using apt-get install anyway
[09:34] <Hoosteen> nope...i followed the tutorial but i didn't get very far with it..hehe
[09:34] <Hoosteen> so i'm all ears at this point
[09:34] <zack> kitche, ok i mounted it but it says i do not have permission to view it. i need to make it so i can copy the files also.
[09:34] <Hoosteen> like i said...super uber noob when it comes to linux :D
[09:34] <riotkittie> !works for me
[09:34] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[09:34] <meal3837> as far as which repositories you have activated, open /etc/sources.list
[09:34] <alecjw> Hoosteen, what tutorial? the bcm43xx-fwcutter one or the ndiswrapper one?
[09:34] <fiXXXerMet> Everyone, problem with postfix package.  When I do "apt-get install postfix" I get "postfix: fatal: /etc/postfix/postfix-script: No such file or directory".  I think I messed it up earlier on. Is there a way to "start fresh" with that package?
[09:34] <gu014> cheetah,riokittie: thank you. how can i terminate a session if i so desire?
[09:34] <Hoosteen> the one that says HOWTO: Broadcom 4318 Wireless Cards
[09:35] <alecjw> Hoosteen, oh...
[09:35] <tsoler> ikonia: how do i set up the Java_Home variable?
[09:35] <FactTech> ubotu fstab
[09:35] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[09:35] <wimdows> fixxxermet - try apt-get remove postfix
[09:35] <benkillin> How do I install trails (java ruby on rails) on 6.10 server?
[09:35] <fiXXXerMet> wimdows: I did, then I did apt-get install postfix again, and got the same error
[09:36] <PirateHead> benkillin: you google it
[09:36] <wimdows> fixxxermet: hmm any idea
[09:36] <benkillin> fiXXXerMet: try aptitude purge [package] 
[09:36] <wimdows> oops
[09:36] <tom_> fiXXXerMet: use synaptic to Completely Remove
[09:36] <benkillin> you dont need synaptic
[09:36] <riotkittie> gu014: that i do not know. i'd just stop the service, but i'm clueless and imagine theres a better way
[09:36] <fiXXXerMet> purging now
[09:36] <wimdows> fixxxermet and you were running this with sudo?
[09:37] <deafboy> i'm confused, is herd3 out yet?
[09:37] <PirateHead> How is aptitude different from apt-get?
[09:37] <tom_> wimdows: yeah or it wouldn't have even started.
[09:37] <fiXXXerMet> wimdows: yes.  benkillin:  purge worked, thanks :)
[09:37] <tom_> !aptitude
[09:37] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[09:37] <alecjw> Hoosteen, i'm soing some research into it now
[09:37] <benkillin> fiXXXerMet: no problem
[09:37] <PirateHead> thx tom_
[09:37] <rashed202> One last time just to be sure: Can I change the refresh rate or use a boot code (other than vga=771) to be able to view the installation on a TV??
[09:37] <tom_> thank ubotu :D
[09:37] <riotkittie> run ps ax | grep ssh   ... and see if there's anything that looks useful
[09:38] <wimdows> interesting - so does that mean you should use aptitude wherever you can?
[09:38] <PirateHead> wimdows: only when you want dependancies removed.
[09:38] <w1jrm> what does this mean E: Malformed line 26 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)
[09:38] <tom_> wimdows: nah because apt-get now has apt-get autoremove :)
[09:38] <w1jrm> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[09:38] <wimdows> ah ok...
[09:38] <Squee> I just got a laptop that has 2 batteries.  Ubuntu recognizes them both, but i can only charge one at a time, I have to take one of them out and restart for it to start charging the other (main battery will get to 100% Charging and the other one will say 0% discharging)  Is there anything I have to install to manage the batteries better or is there something i'm missing?
[09:38] <Hoosteen> alecjw: Thanks a lot!
[09:39] <wimdows> !apt-get
[09:39] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[09:39] <tom_> !batteries
[09:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about batteries - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:39] <tom_> damnit
[09:39] <alecjw> Hoosteen, if you're using edgy (the latest release), try this tutorial: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=285809&highlight=bcm4318
[09:39] <tom_> !laptop
[09:39] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[09:39] <FactTech> Question: When I try to mount a floppy, I get an error indicating "can't read superblock". I notice that in my /etc/fstab file, there is no line referencing /dev/fd0 -- the thing associated with /media/floppy is just "/dev/". Is this at all related?
[09:39] <wimdows> !mono-develop
[09:39] <kitche> zack: use umask when you mount it should be mount -t ntfs /dev/xxx /media/windows umask=0222 that should eb correct
[09:39] <w1jrm> can i get someone to give me some real help not just the stupid ubotu
[09:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mono-develop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:39] <gu014> how can i make opera open torrents in azureus by default?
[09:39] <w1jrm> cause the links are not to informative
[09:40] <wimdows> damn that bot is stoooopid
[09:40] <Hoosteen> alecjw: how do i know if i'm running edgy..i downloaded and installed ubuntu 6.06.1
[09:40] <PirateHead> wimdows: you can tell him more stuff.
[09:40] <wimdows> !monodevelop
[09:40] <PirateHead> ubutu --help
[09:40] <ubotu> monodevelop: C#/Boo/Java/Nemerle/ILasm Development Environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1695 kB, installed size 5344 kB
[09:40] <tom_> w1jrm: theres some saying about those who help themselves or something like that.... i forget it. maybe ubotu knows.
[09:40] <wimdows> ah - there we are
[09:40] <alecjw> Hoosteen, oh right, that's dapper, a slightly older release. try that tutorial anyway
[09:40] <deafboy> Hoosteen: 6.06 is Dapper
[09:40] <Hoosteen> okies
[09:41] <w1jrm> hahaha i have read what ubuto said but it did not fix the problem
[09:41] <Hoosteen> this is all new to me..lol
[09:41] <riotkittie> !mono-devel
[09:41] <ubotu> mono-devel: Mono CLI runtime with development tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.17.1-1ubuntu7.1 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 44 kB
[09:41] <wimdows> PirateHead - how do you know the bot's masculine? ;-)
[09:41] <alecjw> Hoosteen, good luck. i hope it works :)
[09:41] <Stormx2> riotkittie: Who was that intended for?
[09:41] <Hoosteen> thanks!
[09:41] <Hoosteen> do i need to undo what i did before or just go with this tutorial?
[09:41] <SecrethX> someone knows why my webcam isnt recognized? :S
[09:41] <zugu> hi
[09:42] <alecjw> Hoosteen, shouldn't matter. thay're the smae sort of thing
[09:42] <kitche> w1jrm: your source.list is bad something that you probably added or removed made line 26 bad
[09:42] <riotkittie> Stormx2: me :P
[09:42] <zugu> a friend o mine is trying to share a directory with me over our LAN; he's using Vista, I'm on Ubuntu; everytime I try to connect to his share I'm being asked for a password; why is that?
[09:42] <Stormx2> riotkittie: In that case, please /msg ubotu whatever
[09:42] <PirateHead> SecrethX: webcams are notoriously difficult with Linux.
[09:42] <wimdows> I think I'll try my luck on the #monodevelop channel - though I'd be lucky if anyone even says as much as "hi"
[09:42] <w1jrm> i get that..but how do i fix it. or find a wiki or howto fix it.. i can figure it out if i can find something to tell me howto do it =)
[09:42] <Hoosteen> okay
[09:43] <Stormx2> zugu: You using samba, ya?
[09:43] <SecrethX> PirateHead, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCamerasCreative says mine is supported :S
[09:43] <zugu> Stormx2: no, why should I?
[09:43] <wimdows> see you later all
[09:43] <kitche> zugu: because you need a password to access shares
[09:43] <PirateHead> SecrethX: I have no clue then.
[09:43] <SecrethX> (its the webcam live! one)
[09:43] <zugu> kitche: he has no password set on the share
[09:43] <zugu> kitche: why should I need one?
[09:43] <Stormx2> zugu: Because thats how you share folders with windows?
[09:44] <kitche> zugu: umm windows needs a password for shares usually it's user name and password
[09:44] <riotkittie> zugu: are his shares in his My Document directory?
[09:44] <zugu> riotkittie: no
[09:44] <Hoosteen> ok...in the tutorial it says to get ndiswrapper_common but that's not listed when i search...and i did find ndiswrapper but it's already installed...do i need to reinstall it?
[09:44] <zugu> kitche: AFAIK passwords are optional for windows shares
[09:44] <kitche> riotkittie: it's also though Vista so the security is a tad tighter then XP
[09:44] <riotkittie> kitche: i dont need a password to access mine. sometimes i am asked if i try to enter my My Documents but otherwise, no pass required
[09:45] <bruenig> it is ndiswrapper-common not ndsiwrapper_common
[09:45] <zugu> kitche: he has set no password
[09:45] <Hoosteen> well that's not there either :P
[09:45] <bruenig> !info ndiswrapper-common
[09:45] <ubotu> ndiswrapper-common: Userspace utilities for ndiswrapper. In component main, is optional. Version 1.18-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 13 kB, installed size 80 kB
[09:45] <riotkittie> kitche: ah
[09:45] <bruenig> it should be in the repos, that is where you are looking right?
[09:46] <zugu> so what do I need in order to acces the share? a username to be created for me on the Vista machine?
[09:46] <Hoosteen> i just opened Synaptic and clicked on search and typed in "ndiswrapper" and the only thing it found was ndiswrapper-utils
[09:46] <FactTech> Question: If I've modified my /etc/fstab file, what do I need to do to get the changes to take effect? Reboot?
[09:46] <mon^rch> +zugu yes
[09:46] <tom_> Hoosteen: enable the repository
[09:46] <bruenig> Hoosteen, close synaptic, open a terminal and do sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-common
[09:46] <bruenig> it is in repository main
[09:46] <bruenig> it doesn't need to be enabled
[09:46] <zugu> mon^rch: this is madness
[09:46] <riotkittie> FactTech: mount -a
[09:46] <Hoosteen> ok..first thing..tom_: how do i enable repository?
[09:47] <tom_> !repositories
[09:47] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[09:47] <zugu> let's say I install samba, then what?
[09:47] <alecjw> Hoosteen, ndiswrapper-utils is what you want
[09:47] <bruenig> Hoosteen, you don't need to
[09:47] <apokryphos> Hoosteen: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[09:47] <AJIEX1> HI ALL!!! I have a problem ...  - I must defense my home pc by iptables (workstation + adsl) .... I put this in my cfg file [iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -i eth0 --dport ssh -j ACCEPT]  and [iptables -A INPUT -j DROP]  it's there somthing else ??? or this is inaf ????
[09:47] <AJIEX1> oh .. i rong
[09:47] <bruenig> utils and common are the same thing
[09:48] <Hoosteen> ok..didn't know that...
[09:48] <PirateHead> in apt-get can you use autoremove with --purge?
[09:48] <FactTech> riotkittie Thanks, but it didn't work. Is it correct to use the "-t vfat" parameter to mount a Win98 formatted diskette?
[09:49] <AJIEX1> this [iptables -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT ]  and this [iptables -A INPUT -j DROP]  may be i must put more or not ???
[09:49] <bruenig> PirateHead, try
[09:49] <guerby> tom_, this does work to create the mp3, but there is no tag in it after creation "07 - Bacon.mp3: No ID3 tag"
[09:50] <WebMaven> Can anyone tell me what the default set of repositories is for Dapper and for Edgy, respectively?
[09:50] <xx> I have a ?, ne1 here?
[09:50] <bruenig> WebMaven, they are the same, you have the main and restricted repos
[09:51] <WebMaven> main and restricted, but not Universe?
[09:51] <bruenig> WebMaven, not by default
[09:51] <WebMaven> Hmm.
[09:51] <bruenig> WebMaven, very easy to enable it though
[09:51] <WebMaven> Seems odd that restricted is enabled by default, but not Universe.
[09:51] <lunar> I am trying to use VLC on the command line, but I can only get a "caca" output (which works by default).  That is, the video plays as ascii art, and not as a proper video.  How can I fix this?
[09:51] <Flimzy_> Are there any resident Casper experts?
[09:51] <woodwizzle>  I need to get a PCMCIA wifi card for a laptop. Is there somewhere I can go to make sure it is linux compatible?
[09:52] <xx> I have documents saved as .MDI from before switching over to linux.  How can I open these documents?
[09:52] <Flimzy_> woodwizzle: The atheros chipset is awesome
[09:52] <riotkittie> atheros <3
[09:52] <WebMaven> bruenig: yes, I know, thanks.
[09:52] <woodwizzle> What company makes atheros cards?
[09:52] <riotkittie> woodwizzle: dlink
[09:52] <rashed202> woodwizzle: http://linux-wless.passys.nl/
[09:52] <derxob> xx: openoffice.org should work
[09:52] <woodwizzle> thanks!
[09:52] <julien__> jgjhjhj
[09:53] <xx> derxob, I'll give it another shot...
[09:53] <riotkittie> woodwizzle: but if you check teh site, there should be a list of supported cards. i'd give you the link but dont have it on hand. sorry
[09:54] <neocortex> Hi! Has anyone a problem with the Evolution that crashes on exit?
[09:54] <Hoosteen> ok..question
[09:54] <ssam> if apt-get fail while unpacking a package because of a full disk, does it leave stuff somewhere that i'd need to clean up?
[09:54] <Hoosteen> in this statement sudo ndiswrapper -i /location_of_your_wireless_driver/bcmwl5.inf
[09:55] <greg_> hi, you prolly get this all the time, but I've got a problem
[09:55] <cheetah> neocortex: Evolution is notoriusly buggy
[09:55] <Hoosteen> what is location_of_your_wireless_driver?
[09:55] <riotkittie> hi greg_ and greg_'s problem.
[09:55] <greg_> My browsers can't connect tp some servers
[09:55] <bruenig> ssam, just do sudo apt-get install -f
[09:55] <Hoosteen> i'm assuming that's where the driver file is sitting?
[09:55] <diop_> hi
[09:55] <Stormx2> Hoosteen: I think its the location of your wireless driver
[09:55] <greg_> any way of fixing it?
[09:55] <ssam> bruenig, thanks
[09:55] <Hoosteen> ok..gotit..thanks
[09:55] <neocortex> cheetah: But, what to do? I need some planner, mailer and stuff??? :(
[09:55] <diop_> want to upgrade from hoary to the newest dist
[09:56] <diop_> best way
[09:56] <bruenig> diop_, you are probably better off fresh installing
[09:56] <Stormx2> diop_: Probably backup and reinstall...
[09:56] <cheetah> neocortex: do you need to connect to an Exchange server?
[09:56] <bruenig> diop_, because if not, you are going to have to upgrade to breezy, then to dapper, then finally to edgy which will mean almost certain breakage
[09:56] <diop_> bruenig, fresh installing
[09:56] <neocortex> cheetah: No ... I use regular pop and smtp
[09:57] <diop_> yes but i have win in another partition runing
[09:57] <kitche> zugu: I would do a search on sharing folders in Vista and accessing them in Linux since samba 3.0 seems to support Vista's authorization protocol
[09:57] <Hoosteen> ok...so i did that command and it said it's already installed...when i do a sudo ndiswrapper -l it says "bcmwl5 invalid driver"
[09:57] <bruenig> diop_, don't format that other partition, just the linux partition
[09:58] <diop_> have to ask CDs then because my connexion is not so fast to download
[09:58] <cheetah> neocortex: Any mail / calendar app should work for you then.  Avoid Evolution unless you need Exchange connectivity.
[09:58] <diop_> it may take time
[09:58] <greg_> any1 wanna help me? pretty please
[09:58] <bruenig> diop_, the latest version, edgy, is download only. You can order cd's for dapper
[09:58] <neocortex> cheetah: Do you have any recomendation?
[09:58] <CheshireViking> what command do i need to type to check what drives/partitions are listed/mounted as hda/hda1 etc?
[09:58] <xx> derxob, no dice... NE1 else know how to open a .MDI?
[09:58] <diop_> ahh
[09:58] <agente_> hola
[09:58] <benkillin> how do I get sun-java5-jdk instead of sun-java6-jdk? java6 isn't good enough yet
[09:58] <zugu> kitche: thanks, I'll try
[09:58] <agente_> necesito instalar el Wineeeeeeeeeeeee
[09:58] <agente_> alguien que me ayude
[09:58] <Seveas> !es | agente_
[09:58] <ubotu> agente_: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:59] <benkillin> and sun-java5-jdk is no longer in the repositories
[09:59] <bruenig> benkillin, sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk
[09:59] <neocortex> cheetah: And what for calendar, task etc.?
[09:59] <stapolo> stapol, O.o
[09:59] <bruenig> benkillin, it is.
[09:59] <diop_> bruenig, so 1. download 2. burn on cds 3. install am i right if i follow
[09:59] <Hoosteen> anybody?
[09:59] <benkillin> bruenig: sun-java5-jdk is not in the repositories anymore, I have ubuntu 6.10 server and when I try to install it apt-get says package not found
[09:59] <bruenig> diop_, yes
[10:00] <Hoosteen> ok...so i did that command and it said it's already installed...when i do a sudo ndiswrapper -l it says "bcmwl5 invalid driver"
[10:00] <tom_> neocortex: evolution does all of that.
[10:00] <cheetah> neocortex: I use a webmail interface for my own website's email etc.  As far as a desktop app, I'm not sure.  You're using Ubuntu I assume.
[10:00] <diop_> bruenig, thank you
[10:00] <bruenig> benkillin, It is in multiverse. I just apt-cache showed it
[10:00] <benkillin> I enabled all possible repositories in source.list
[10:00] <benkillin> it still wont find it
[10:00] <bruenig> benkillin, I assume java6 is in backports
[10:00] <abo> hi, I'm having a problem with my NumPad, when the numlock in on, the numbers work fine, but recently the / * + - keys does not work unless the numlock is off!
[10:00] <sacater> do not ever get xpenguins or xpenguins-applet, it goes a step too far when overtaking your desktop
[10:00] <abo> anyone can help?
[10:00] <xx> I have documents saved as .MDI from before switching over to linux.  How can I open these documents?
[10:00] <benkillin> bruenig: backports is enabled as well and I still dont see it
[10:00] <Yashy> Can anyone help with an initramfs issue? http://www.pastebin.ca/334707
[10:00] <neocortex> cheetah: Yes 6.06, and tom: I am just telling about my Evolution crashes
[10:00] <bruenig> !info sun-java6-jdk
[10:00] <ubotu> Package sun-java6-jdk does not exist in any distro I know
[10:00] <rashed202> is there a way I can change the refresh rate?!?! Keep in mind that I CANNOT see the screen at all.. just keeps scrolling vertically!
[10:00] <bruenig> !info sun-java5-jdk
[10:01] <ubotu> sun-java5-jdk: Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 4918 kB, installed size 11412 kB
[10:01] <diop_> bruenig, have u the url of edgy
[10:01] <bruenig> diop_, you can navigate from ubuntu.com to it
[10:01] <sacater> rashed202: try System: Preferences : Screen Resolution
[10:01] <benkillin> do you want a screenshot of it not working or something? the package isn't there
[10:01] <cheetah> neocortex: Let me look around a bit...
[10:01] <diop_> thx
[10:01] <neocortex> cheetah: thanks, so very much ...
[10:01] <rashed202> sacater: I can't go to that.. the screen just keep scrolling like crazy.. I can't make out anything on it
[10:02] <bruenig> benkillin, I can see it in my repos. Don't see what the problem is. Perhaps you can pastebin your sources.list or maybe your mirror jumped the gun or something
[10:02] <jo3yk> anyone know where i can find some documentation on configuring a ubuntu server 6.06 nat/firewall ?
[10:02] <sacater> rashed202: please type /j #welp
[10:02] <mjr> xx, afaik you'll have to convert them to eg. tiff using microsoft office (might be there's some program to read them ,dunno )
[10:02] <Zaggynl> Is there a way to burn MDF files in Linux?
[10:02] <crazy_penguin> good night to all!
[10:02] <tom_> rashed202: look up the specs of your tv, NTSC or PAL, and edit your xorg.conf accordingly
[10:02] <Zaggynl> I tried converting with Kiso, but the image came our corrupted
[10:02] <tom_> rashed202: resolution and refresh rate.
[10:03] <webben> jo3yk, man iptables
[10:03] <mjr> Zaggynl, mdf2iso then?
[10:03] <bruenig> benkillin, here is the us repo, http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/s/sun-java5/
[10:03] <cheetah> neocortex: you could try Mozilla Mail and Mozilla Calendar.  I never used them so I can't tell you too much about them.
[10:03] <webben> jo3yk, or, if you prefer, GUI: sudo apt-get install firestarter
[10:03] <Zaggynl> mjr, haven't tried that yet, thanks
[10:03] <abo> anyone can help me fix the numpad problem : the   + - * / keys don't work when numpad is on
[10:03] <jamesbrose_____> I'm using ubuntu-server and when I try to setup all wlan it keeps going "DHCP Discover...." then goes "No DHCP OFFERS Recieved" Can anybody help?
[10:03] <kamui> how would I change my default video player in gnome?  Totem is broken, and I'd prefer to use mplayer as the default
[10:04] <xx> Anyone know how to open/convert a Microsoft Document Imaging file (*.MDI)?  I need the information to be usable!
[10:04] <neocortex> cheetah: Ok I could try ... Also, since you are so kind :) and I am a newbie, what about good editor?
[10:04] <jhai1> How do I type accented characters in vi?
[10:04] <bruenig> kamui, right click on a file, go to properties and change the open with.
[10:04] <neocortex> cheetah: I had some troubles with gedit, but generally ...
[10:04] <jo3yk> webben, is firestarter a "front end" for configuring iptables?
[10:04] <cheetah> neocortex: What kind of editor?  Text?
[10:04] <webben> jo3yk, yep
[10:04] <kamui> bruenig: I did that, it just adds mplayer to the bottom of the openwith list
[10:04] <kamui> totem is still the default if I double click on the file
[10:04] <webben> jo3yk, there's one for KDE too ... guarddog or something
[10:04] <neocortex> Yes, for python, C, latex ... much R
[10:04] <javi_> ola
[10:05] <bruenig> kamui, go to properties then open with. Not open with
[10:05] <PirateHead> neocortex: SciTE is a pretty nice source editor.
[10:05] <ryanpg> hi all... anyone recommend a group calendar server that can handle web clients (ubuntu server OSX clients)?
[10:05] <javi_> alguna espaola????
[10:05] <benkillin> bruenig: http://pastebin.ca/336152
[10:05] <kamui> bruenig: aaah! let me try that
[10:05] <cheetah> neocortex: I'm old school, so for text is use vi.  Can't tell you as far as a GUI goes.  If vi is to complicated, you could try nano, pico, etc...
[10:05] <jamesbrose_____> I'm using ubuntu-server and when I try to setup all wlan it keeps going "DHCP Discover...." then goes "No DHCP OFFERS Recieved" Can anybody help?
[10:05] <xx> Anyone know how to open/convert a Microsoft Document Imaging file (*.MDI)?  I need the information to be usable!
[10:05] <adamonline45> I use nano, it's simple by the third time
[10:05] <bruenig> benkillin, you don't have multiverse enabled
[10:06] <neocortex> cheetah: You know, I don't want to star new war, but 1/2 people is telling me GVim, other half emacs ...
[10:06] <Xif> What's Edgy's advantage over Dapper?
[10:06] <PirateHead> Xif: there are many. Look at Edgy's release notes.
[10:06] <cheetah> neocortex: you would be starting a war... :)
[10:06] <jo3yk> use joe.. its easy!
[10:06] <neocortex> Yes, I know :)
[10:06] <bruenig> benkillin, change lines 8 and 9 like this, http://pastebin.ca/336155
[10:07] <kamui> sweeet!
[10:07] <kamui> thanks bruenig
[10:07] <xx> Help!   Anyone know how to open/convert a Microsoft Document Imaging file (*.MDI)?  I need the information to be usable!
[10:07] <neocortex> cheetah: Nevertheless, thanks so much for the assistance ... I owe you a coffee or beer, or both :)
[10:07] <bruenig> xx, have you tried gedit
[10:07] <cheetah> neocortex: np
[10:07] <tom_> Xif: cutting edge stuff. if dapper is working fine for you stick with that.
[10:07] <PirateHead> Xif: is there something in particular you're wondering about?
[10:07] <adamonline45> Does anyone know about "locate"?  I need to find a new file, but I think locate runs off a catalogue that doesn't have the new file _in_ it yet... any ideas? Update catalog? Different search tool?
[10:07] <riotkittie> adamonline45: sudo updatedb then locate
[10:07] <derxob> xx: your only option might be to install vmware or wine and take that route
[10:07] <neocortex> cheetah: thanks, again, and all the best
[10:07] <queuetue_> The xen-on-edgy howtos i finding seem to be inaccurate or out of date - can anyone point me towards one that worked recently?
[10:07] <adamonline45> thank you :)
[10:08] <xx> bruenig, I'll try it now
[10:08] <Xif> PirateHead: stability, performance?  newer packages?
[10:08] <bruenig> adamonline45, sudo find / -iname string works well too
[10:08] <tom_> Xif: if anything edgy will be less stable than dapper
[10:08] <PirateHead> Xif: all three are true or false on a case-by-case basis.
[10:08] <Xif> tom_, PirateHead: OK, I think I'll stick to Dapper then
[10:08] <benkillin> bruenig: thank you very much for your help and patients.
[10:08] <PirateHead> Xif: some packages are more stable due to being newer and having more bugfixes; other packages have released possibly unstable new features.
[10:08] <Xif> unless Edgy for AMD64 has Flash and other packages? :>
[10:09] <bruenig> amd64 does not have flash
[10:09] <PirateHead> There's no Flash for AMD64 yet. :-(
[10:09] <bruenig> or java
[10:09] <tom_> Xif: Dapper was designed to be stable for 5 years. Edgy is made to expand upon that.
[10:09] <Xif> PirateHead: I think overall, most of the time, newer packages are less stable.
[10:09] <xx> derxob: I've WINE,  I'll try that too
[10:09] <bruenig> obviously they are less stable. But they  need to be used on a mass scale for progress
[10:09] <PirateHead> Xif: that is true sometimes. Especially in the case of Dapper, which focused largely on longterm stability.
[10:09] <bruenig> else the instability can't be found out
[10:10] <derxob> xx: of course, you'd have to install the MS product
[10:10] <benkillin> bruenig: is that java SE or EE ?
[10:10] <Xif> tom_: "expand upon that"?  what does it mean?
[10:10] <bruenig> benkillin, I don't know
[10:10] <sovieticool> hi all
[10:10] <Xif> PirateHead, bruenig: yeah, at this point installing the amd64 version is pretty insane.
[10:11] <bruenig> I mean if you like to spend a lot of time doing stuff, it might be a fun hobby kind of thing
[10:11] <benkillin> How do I change the default location where new programs are installed? I want all stuff to go to /main instead of / because / is a 2gb partition which is almost full
[10:11] <bruenig> setting up the chroot and such
[10:11] <sovieticool> i have a ubuntu edgy with beryl and when i try to start him in few seconds i see the login page !!!
[10:11] <Xif> You're supposed to get some sort of performance advantage (...right?) but you have so much stuff missing.
[10:11] <jamesbrose_____> I'm using ubuntu-server and when I try to setup all wlan it keeps going "DHCP Discover...." then goes "No DHCP OFFERS Recieved" Can anybody help?
[10:11] <Xif> Flash alone is a huge handicap.
[10:12] <Xif> bruenig: btw, if there's no Java for amd64, how the heck is OpenOffice running?! :)
[10:12] <bruenig> in soviet russia, ubuntu starts you
[10:12] <sovieticool> ?
[10:12] <sovieticool> i have a ubuntu edgy with beryl and when i try to start him in few seconds i see the login page !!! HELP
[10:12] <apecat> in sovjet russia you start upstart
[10:13] <PirateHead> bruenig: in soviet russia, kernel panics me.
[10:13] <adamonline45> Where should I put a source.tar.gz before unzipping, ./configuring, making and make installing? Where does it install to?
[10:13] <Hoosteen> ok new question for everyone...i'm trying to uninstall the drivers i installed the first time..i run sudo ndiswrapper -l to see whta's listed and it shows bcmwl5, i run sudo ndiswrapper -e bcmwl5 and it says it's not there
[10:13] <erUSUL> benkillin: not posible; you can mount main as /usr/ though but the operation is not trivial
[10:13] <bruenig> you guys are going to confuse sovieticool
[10:13] <queuetue_> How can I overcome `Package xen-hypervisor-3.0-i386-pae is not available, but is referred to by another package.` ?
[10:13] <sovieticool> yeah man
[10:13] <sovieticool> i go from here
[10:13] <sovieticool> thank's
[10:13] <bruenig> !ru | sovieticool
[10:13] <ubotu> sovieticool:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[10:13] <sovieticool> i am romanian guy
[10:13] <sovieticool> not rusian
[10:13] <sovieticool> is my nick that only
[10:13] <bruenig> well you can obviously read it
[10:14] <sovieticool> i don't speak rusian
[10:14] <bruenig> !ro | sovieticool
[10:14] <ubotu> sovieticool: Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro
[10:14] <adamonline45> Wow, romanian's so much easier to read than russian!
[10:14] <sovieticool> yeah are 5 people there :(
[10:14] <PirateHead> If he speaks english he can chat here.
[10:14] <adamonline45> for sure!
[10:14] <riotkittie> like totally.
[10:14] <sovieticool> i know wery well :P
[10:14] <adamonline45> hehheh
[10:14] <cafuego_> En als niet, dan ga je zeuren?
[10:14] <bruenig> he used a masculine pronoun in reference to ubuntu
[10:14] <Jowi> sovieticool, you start beryl via beryl-manager in gnome or do you use beryl stand alone from any desktop environment?
[10:15] <logikon> adamonline45: cyrillic alphabet is kinda cryptographed..
[10:15] <bruenig> obviously he can't speak english, that is either a neuter pronoun or a feminine pronoun
[10:15] <sovieticool> desktop environ...
[10:16] <riotkittie> bruenig: he's more coherent than the majority of americans ive talked to online. :P
[10:16] <pbureau> riotkittie, lol
[10:16] <crimsun> 2/win 24
[10:16] <adamonline45> lol, yeah
[10:16] <danho> if i am compile a package myself, for my centrino laptop, which cpu structure should I use ?
[10:16] <crimsun> sorry
[10:16] <bruenig> either way still funny
 i have a ubuntu edgy with beryl and when i try to start him in few seconds i see the login page !!! HELP
[10:16] <adamonline45> danho: i386?
[10:16] <danho> p4 or p4m ?
[10:16] <adamonline45> danho: oh wait nm :)
[10:16] <KristianDK> Hello, does anyone succeed getting Office 2003 running with Wine ??
[10:17] <Ricket> Are there any known issues with Gnash on Ubuntu 6.10 and FF 2.0.0.1 ? I can't seem to get it to work...
[10:17] <pbureau> dAndy_, I beleive the 4m indicates mobile centrino
[10:17] <bruenig> Ricket, one issue is that it doesn't have sound
[10:17] <pbureau> KristianDK, eww, use openoffice2
[10:17] <balor> I've got a hibernate/suspend issue on Intel Core Duo with an intel i915 card.  On restart, everything works except X seems to keep respawning.  Pressing the power button does a clean shutdown when X is cycling, but that's teh only thing that works.
[10:17] <bruenig> minor though
[10:17] <danho> coz apt-build asking this question.
[10:17] <sovieticool> again kick me out
[10:17] <PirateHead> KristianDK: I think I saw on CrossOver's website that some people got it running.
[10:17] <logikon> bruenig: that's not really weird.. there's no neutral pronoun in most romantic languages, so literal translation to all of them would be "him"
[10:17] <danho> but there are also a p3m ?
[10:17] <sovieticool> !ro
[10:17] <ubotu> Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro
[10:17] <danho> or what's prescort ?
[10:17] <queuetue_> The xen-on-edgy howtos i finding seem to be inaccurate or out of date - can anyone point me towards one that worked recently?
[10:18] <pbureau> danho, imagine that would be a PIII on a laptop (like mine :))
[10:18] <|PiP|> if i want to diff the output of a command with another file, how would i do it?
[10:18] <KristianDK> PireateHead, Hmmm - i just talked to a guy that bought crossover, it didn't work for him :/ So i wouldn't like to pay them for nothing :)
[10:18] <DjEvolution> Anyone know of a good dj mixing sub such as virtual dj?
[10:18] <riotkittie> p3 power, woo.
[10:18] <danho> ok, i will try p4m..
[10:18] <danho> thx.
[10:18] <DjEvolution> Anyone know of a good dj mixing sub such as virtual dj?
[10:19] <KristianDK> PirateHead, i just found their trial, i'll just try it ;O !
[10:19] <sovieticool> hello i try with beryl-manager and again i see login page :(
[10:19] <pbureau> riotkittie, P3 900mhz 1GB ram runs like a charm.. for browsing, email, chatting.... and I can make more room on my other P(dual core) 4 3.4ghz laptop for games :)
[10:19] <adamonline45> When installing from source, will the program end up in the right place, regardless of where I 'make' it from?  Or will it install into the same directory the source is in?
[10:19] <PirateHead> Good luck KristianDK
[10:20] <riotkittie> ah. i'm a lowly p3 750mhz 256MBer myself :P
[10:20] <birgi> hi everybody, i am trying to install ubuntu 6.06 from a flash drive
[10:20] <Ricket> i'm a c2d 2ghz 2GBer... :-D
[10:20] <benkillin> should I install tomcat5 or tomcat 5.5? my goal is to get trails working.
[10:20] <birgi> i get the "missing operatin system" error, any ideas?
[10:20] <PirateHead> DjEvolution: http://mixxx.sourceforge.net/
[10:20] <adamonline45> oregon trails?
[10:20] <skirk> hey guys, anyone know a proxy for ubuntu?
[10:20] <dallingham> I'm seeing some really strange issues on a new NFS server. Sometimes when I run "ls", I see files. The next time, I'll get a permission denied error.
[10:21] <benkillin> trails, a java implementation of Ruby on Rails
[10:21] <mcphail> adamonline45: it depends on the Makefile. Installing from source can be unpredictable.
[10:21] <riotkittie> ooh. i need to find my oregon trail rom. it's been a while since i've died of dysentry.
[10:21] <adamonline45> mcphail: You're telling me :)  I don't even know what's happening here...  Ugh, obscure software install...  thttpd... driving me nutso :)
[10:22] <skirk> hey guys, anyone know a proxy for ubuntu?
[10:22] <erUSUL> !info squid
[10:22] <ubotu> squid: Internet Object Cache (WWW proxy cache). In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.1-3ubuntu1.2 (edgy), package size 594 kB, installed size 1544 kB
[10:22] <mcphail> adamonline45: that is available in the repos
[10:22] <PirateHead> skirk: what do you mean a proxy?
[10:22] <skirk> proxy programs
[10:23] <skirk> like TOR for windows
[10:24] <rfschmid> I'd like to remove rhythmbox and all of its settings (apt-get remove --purge rhythmbox) because I think I messed up a setting such that it takes forever to start up, but doing so makes apt want to remove "Ubuntu-Desktop." Should I be worried?
[10:24] <skirk> PirateHead, like TOR for windows...
[10:24] <kalosaurusrex> rfschmid: no ubuntu-desktop is only a meta package
[10:24] <kalosaurusrex> rfschmid: won't hurt anything.
[10:24] <PirateHead> skirk, here's a HOWTO: go to google, type Linux proxy, and hit I'm Feeling Lucky. Or just click here: www.googleityoumoron.com
[10:24] <nullvector> can somene direct me to compiz help? primarily need help with the compiz manager, I canot change settings
[10:24] <erUSUL> skirk: tor afaik is a java program that works in linux too
[10:24] <erUSUL> !info tor
[10:25] <riotkittie> hm. i need to figure out SSH and X. teh OH seems interested and i did make him an account but he'll get my laptop when he pries it froom  my cold, dead hands... and i know he wont be happy at the CLI
[10:25] <ubotu> tor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1.23-1 (edgy), package size 763 kB, installed size 1556 kB
[10:25] <rfschmid> kalosaurusrex: It mentions that it might be helpful for upgrades. Does it make sense to re-install it after I re-install rhythmbox?
[10:25] <skirk> ok tnz erUSUL
[10:25] <skirk> ^^
[10:25] <kalosaurusrex> rfschmid: not sure on that one. although I haven't had any problem with upgrades after removing it. but I could be incorrect.
[10:25] <kupesoft> I just attempted to install ubuntu by resizing an existing NTFS partition.  GParted crashed and when I rebooted to Windows it said it was repairing the drive.  Everything is fine, but Windows is reporting the the NTFS partition is the same size as it was before the resize but the amount of data stored on it is the amount it was *plus* the size of the would-be new partition.  What should I do?
[10:25] <rfschmid> kalosaurusrex: alright, I'll just not worry about it. What's the worst that could happen?
[10:25] <DjEvolution> piratehead: Can you walk me through installation. Im new to linux
[10:26] <adamonline45> mcphail: It is, but it's version 2.23, and they're on 2.25b...  For a web server, I'd like the latest update :)  I had it working from the old version, it was fine, but I tried to upgrade it to 2.25 and that's pretty much when I lost control.  I ended up reinstalling ubuntu-server to start anew, but I still can't install this thing right, as far as I can tell.
[10:26] <Laibsch> How do I configure X from the console?  I installed ubuntu today on my mom's machine, the install did not work so I went with debootstrap from Knoppix.  Now I need to get X working.
[10:26] <Ricket> kupesoft: try defragging
[10:26] <kalosaurusrex> rfschmid: not sure but nothing that isn't fixed able :)
[10:26] <PirateHead> kupesoft: restore to backup. You did back up before running GParted, right?
[10:26] <kupesoft> Ricket: Okay.  Nope, I didn't backup )=
[10:26] <riotkittie> kupesoft: did you run chkdsk ?
[10:26] <axa-axa> Hi. Can someone please help me map CTRL to right Win-key?
[10:26] <zack> i used the command "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media/windows umask=0222" and it brings up a list of options for me so it doesnt work, am i using the umask option right?
[10:26] <kupesoft> riotkittie: chkdsk is a windows command?
[10:26] <Ricket> PirateHead: of course not! who has time or space to back up anyway! :-D /sarcasm
[10:26] <kupesoft> riotkittie: I'm running live ubuntu now.
[10:26] <LjL> kupesoft: yes, Windows NT and early versions of MS-DOS IIRC
[10:27] <sovieticool> !beryl help
[10:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beryl help - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:27] <LjL> Ubotu, tell sovieticool about beryl | sovieticool, see the private message from Ubotu
[10:27] <erUSUL> zack: sudo mount -t ntfs -o umask=0222 /dev/hda1 /media/windows
[10:27] <kupesoft> LjL: Can I defrag from Linux?
[10:27] <mcphail> adamonline45: are there "features" you need in the new version? Ubuntu packages get security patches...
[10:28] <tom_> !beryl
[10:28] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[10:28] <LjL> kupesoft: short answer, no (and you don't need to)
[10:28] <wabz> hi, I'm trying to run some binary app, and I get - error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory - is there some compatibility package I can install or something?
[10:28] <erUSUL> zack: man mount ;)
[10:28] <nullvector> I have two problems, one is more of an anoyance. My numlock key is reversed. Anyone know how to correct this?
[10:28] <zack> erusul, what do you mean?
[10:28] <Ricket> LjL: you know, I always wondered that... why don't Linux FSes need to be defragged?
[10:28] <LjL> kupesoft: long answer, yes, there is a program called "defrag" available, for ext2 filesystems, but it doesn't really work for ext3 yet, it has not been updated in years. on the other hand, ext3 is much less susceptible to fragmentation than NTFS and FAT
[10:28] <axa-axa> Can someone please help me map CTRL to right Win-key?
[10:28] <kupesoft> Ricket, PirateHead, riotkittie, LjL: My best bet is try a defrag, first?
[10:28] <adamonline45> mcphail: I think it's in a thrid-party repository...  Universe, I believe?
[10:29] <erUSUL> zack: read the documentation type 'man man' in a terminal
[10:29] <tom_> ext3 does not suffer from fragmentation.
[10:29] <mcphail> adamonline45: universe isn't third party
[10:29] <Ricket> kupesoft: Yes, I think it would figure out that there is more free space.
[10:29] <kupesoft> Ricket: Okay, thanks.  I'll try.
[10:29] <LjL> Ricket: it's not that it doesn't *need* to, but in normal circumstances, it's quite unlikely to get fragmented. that's mostly because it tries to "keep files apart", i.e. when you create a new files, it tries to avoid putting it right next to an existing one. well, you get the idea anyway
[10:29] <adamonline45> no? Okay, lemme do some hunting...
[10:30] <LjL> Ricket: err, make that "quite unlikely to get fragmented in a way that affects performance". it *does* get fragmented
[10:30] <ubuntu60> need help
[10:30] <Ricket> LjL: interesting. so then on linux systems, the drive heads do more moving around maybe? well maybe not because they don't need to read various spots per file... but... hmm.
[10:30] <ubuntu60> need help pls
[10:30] <LjL> Ricket: but if one 600Mb file (say, a CD iso) gets split into 3 fragments, that's hardly a big deal
[10:30] <DjEvolution> piratehead: are you there?
[10:30] <ubuntu60> a have ati radeon tutorial., http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Install_the_Driver_Manually
[10:30] <Ricket> ubuntu60: please state your question and wait patiently
[10:30] <LjL> Ricket: they should move *less* than on a fragmented NTFS or FAT filesystem
[10:30] <Ricket> ubuntu60: ok
[10:31] <ubuntu60> and, fglrxinfo
[10:31] <ubuntu60> it's not accelerate
[10:31] <PirateHead> DjEvolution: I'm here.
[10:31] <ubuntu60> what it;s worg
[10:31] <DjEvolution> piratehead: can you help me out in chat?
[10:31] <tom_> DjEvolution: did you get Jokosher working?
[10:31] <PirateHead> DjEvolution: I sent you a private chat. Can you respond?
[10:32] <PirateHead> tom_: Jokosher is not a digital DJ program.
[10:32] <DjEvolution> piratehead: I did respond
[10:32] <sovieticool> my scrool from mouse isn't working why ?
[10:32] <LjL> Ricket: if you compare a completely non-fragmented ext3 filesystem to a completely non-fragmented NTFS filesystem, well, the heads will move the same amounts. so that doesn't mean anything. comparisons should be made on filesystems that have undergone "normal usage" - *defining* what "normal usage" is is the core issue, and one of the reasons why performance of X vs Y filesystems are often debated
[10:32] <PirateHead> DjEvolution: I didn't get your response. Is your nickname registered?
[10:32] <pbureau> when I try to runa terminal app that has graphical interface using gsku I get command not found... what am I missing ?
[10:32] <ubuntu60> Ricket
[10:32] <ubuntu60> ?
[10:33] <rashed202> guys
[10:33] <andycap_> help
[10:33] <rashed202> is there a way to have ubuntu install with a text based installer?
[10:33] <DjEvolution> piratehead: yes, I am supposed to type like I am here, correct?
[10:33] <Ricket> ubuntu60: i can't help you, i barely know ubuntu myself, i was just being a hall monitor :)
[10:33] <tom_> !alternative
[10:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alternative - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:33] <erUSUL> !alternate > RedKrieg
[10:33] <tom_> omg.
[10:33] <morrolan> rashed202 - download the "alternate install CD" iso
[10:33] <erUSUL> !alternate > rashed202
[10:33] <cafuego_> pbureau: you probably want 'gksudo'
[10:33] <kotatsu> anyone here ever set up a linksys nslu2 with linux?
[10:33] <adamonline45> mcphail: I remember now; it was 2.23 beta...  It seemed to work fine from the repo, maybe I'll just stick to what I can handle.
[10:33] <erUSUL> RedKrieg: sorry, bad tab completion ;P
[10:34] <LjL> Ricket: still, both FAT and NTFS are particularly notorious for being very susceptible to fragmentation, compared to most other modern filesystems, which is why "defrag" utilities abound on Windows, while on Linux, the less-than-very-useful and 10-years-unmaintained "defrag" package is all we have
[10:34] <sovieticool> my scrool from mouse isn't working why ?
[10:34] <pbureau> cafuego, thanks
[10:34] <sovieticool> is a logitech cordless
[10:34] <andycap_> k, I use windows and just tried out ubuntu, when i went to install it where it got to portioning it I clicked next and then I was like wtf, I don't know if I want to do this and I pressed cancel at 1% and restarted my computer now, when I reboot it says, missing operating system
[10:34] <rashed202> but that's only different for the installation right?? I get the same gnome desktop after I install?
[10:34] <khaije1> i'm looking at a tdi-based firewall, does anyone know what tdi is?
[10:34] <adamonline45> !logrotate
[10:34] <zack> i still dont know what i am doing wrong, the manual says umask is a valid option for ntfs file systems.  this is my command i am using  "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media/windows umask=0222" i am trying to make it so i mount the volume and have permission to copy files
[10:34] <doronBE> hi, I would like to know if there is a way to enlarge the "/" dir. I was trying ubuntu as migration distro from ms and now I wanna clear the MS partition and add it to the ubuntu "/", help ?
[10:34] <ubotu> logrotate: Log rotation utility. In component main, is standard. Version 3.7.1-3 (edgy), package size 34 kB, installed size 160 kB
[10:34] <cafuego_> zack: -o umask=0222
[10:34] <PirateHead> DjEvolution: yes. I don't know what the problem is. In any case, here's all you need to do: enable the Ubuntu Edgy Universe repository, if you have not already; then, in the terminal, run "sudo apt-get install mixxx" and "sudo apt-get install mixxx-data", without the quotes.
[10:35] <LjL> doronBE: it's possible, yes (while shrinking is much more troublesome, i think). gparted should allow you to do that quite easily
[10:35] <adamonline45> !thttpd-util
[10:35] <ubotu> thttpd-util: Support utilities for thttpd. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.23beta1-4 (edgy), package size 24 kB, installed size 132 kB
[10:35] <zack> cafuego thanks so much!
[10:35] <LjL> doronBE: keep in mind that it's, of course, a sort of operation that can hardly be considered very safe, so you should in theory have a backup
[10:35] <tom_> sudo apt-get install mixxx
[10:35] <tom_> ;)
[10:35] <andycap_> can someone tell me why windows isn't loading anymore?
[10:35] <doronBE> LjL: and what about shrinking ? can I do it with gparted too ?
[10:35] <erUSUL> andycap_: i'm afraid you messed up your partitions :( you may have screwed your system....
[10:36] <andycap_> what can I do?
[10:36] <DjEvolution> piratehead: W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012) breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.10%20%5fBreezy%20Badger%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20051012)_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:36] <LjL> doronBE: i'm afraid not, actually i'm afraid you can't do it at all, except by backing up, making a new smaller partition, and restoring. i might be mistaken though, but that's what i seem to recall for ext3
[10:36] <Ricket> Okay so. Gnash sucks, at least in Firefox. What are my alternatives?
[10:36] <erUSUL> andycap_: a reboot durin partitioning or resaizing of disks is a very bad idea
[10:36] <andycap_> well, I cancelled at 1%.. and I just restarted after
[10:36] <axa-axa> Can someone please help me map CTRL to right Win-key?
[10:37] <erUSUL> Ricket: flashplugin-nonfree ??
[10:37] <PirateHead> DjEvolution: the package is not available in the Breezy repository, only in the Edgy one; and you have to add the Universe repository because you won't find mixxx on your cdrom repo.
[10:37] <doronBE> LjL: I have an MS partition which consumes 140GB and 10GB for ubuntu. isnt there a way to move around freespace ? I remember MS has a program called PQ-MagiK which can do it with NTFS easily and in a friendly manner
[10:38] <mcphail> andycap_: the damage may well be done already. Google for "testdisk" which can occasionally recover partitions
[10:38] <DjEvolution> piratehead: What Am I supposed to do then?
[10:38] <andycap_> thank you!
[10:38] <LjL> doronBE, gparted can do it for NTFS too, i think. it can both grow and shrink NTFS partitions. it's ext3 partition that it cannot shrink, but only grow. still if i recall correctly
[10:38] <adamonline45> how do I erase a directory that's not empty?
[10:38] <PirateHead> DjEvolution: you could try compiling from source, but that might end up being difficult.
[10:39] <LjL> doronBE: it's called PQMagic or Partition Magic anyway, the Windows utility
[10:39] <mcphail> adamonline45: rm -rf directory
[10:39] <PirateHead> Does anyone know how well an Edgy package might install on Breezy?
[10:39] <LjL> adamonline45: "man rm", look for "recursive"
[10:39] <DjEvolution> Piratehead: ahh, nvm. Thanks alot anyway :)
[10:39] <doronBE> LjL: thats exactly what I need ! thanks
[10:39] <LjL> PirateHead: 80% or so chance that it won't
[10:39] <adamonline45> LjL: thanks :)
[10:39] <LjL> doronBE: but don't use Partition Magic, that won't work for your *Linux* filesystem at all
[10:39] <doronBE> yeah, I know
[10:39] <adamonline45> mcphail: Missed yours, thank you too :)
[10:40] <andycap_> ok I downloaded the linuxTestDisk
[10:40] <Ricket> erUSUL: I can't find that in the Synaptic Package Manager...
[10:40] <andycap_> now what do I do :\
[10:41] <erUSUL> Ricket: did you enabled multiverse? also the flash 9 is in the seveas repo (multiverse has 7)
[10:41] <erUSUL> !multiverse > Ricket
[10:41] <andycap_> how do I install TestDisk?
[10:41] <Soul^Reaver> need help installing gmp to install other programs
[10:41] <Ricket> erUSUL: i'm pretty sure I did...
[10:42] <Soul^Reaver> keep getting Errors is there an easyer way to instal the new gmp?? cus its not in my apt-get or install manager
[10:42] <erUSUL> ! info flashplugin-nonfree
[10:42] <Ricket> erUSUL: yeah in software sources I checked every box I could get my mouse on, including "Software restricted by copyright or legal issues (multiverse)"
[10:42] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.68~ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 164 kB (Only available for i386)
[10:42] <drx> can anyone please tell me how to mount & access an LVM partition called /dev/VG_Guests/WinSqlVm (on /dev/sdb2) (system is on /dev/sda)?
[10:43] <erUSUL> Ricket: it is there except if you are on amd64....
[10:43] <LjL> !flash9 | erUSUL, no need for seveas anymore
[10:43] <ubotu> erUSUL, no need for seveas anymore: Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[10:43] <erUSUL> Ricket: or ppc.... only fot ia32
[10:43] <Ricket> erUSUL: I'm on a Sempron...
[10:43] <Ricket> I think...
[10:44] <erUSUL> Ricket: what says 'uname -m' ??
[10:44] <erUSUL> LjL: thanks for the info ;)
[10:44] <sheriff> hi to everybody, i  am trying to install edgy but after the boot screen i get black screen and the sign which is like i pluged-out the monitor cable so how can i fix it?
[10:44] <andycap_> erUSUL: how do I install this TestDisk?
[10:45] <Soul^Reaver> Need help installing gmp on kubuntu it gave me site & I downloaded it & its giving me 1 error, is there an easyer way to install GMP cus its not in my pat-get install manager
[10:45] <Ricket> erUSUL: x86_64
[10:45] <mcphail> andycap_: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/OS_Notes#Precompiled_binaries
[10:45] <ubuntero> hello, im using windows xp and suse linux, i have grub so i can switch both systems. i want to install the new ubuntu installer which runs ubuntu from windows, anyone knows if i will have a problem (i already have grub installed). thanks a lot for your help
[10:45] <dcordes> inside a bash script, which i run with sudo, i need one command to be executed with the normal user. how can i manage this?
[10:45] <erUSUL> andycap_: sudo apt-get install testdisk ??
[10:45] <erUSUL> Ricket: sorry but not flash for you :( go complain adobe ;)
[10:45] <rosalsazs> hi all
[10:45] <LjL> ubuntero, i think that installer is still very experimental and likely to crash or do nasty things to your disks - if it's even completed at all
[10:46] <g333k_work> hi, I have cloned my hard disk, then when I turned on for 2nd time the pc with the cloned hard disk the network devices appeared disable, why?
[10:46] <Ricket> erUSUL: gah.
[10:46] <nullvector> simple question -- should I use berryl or Compiz? I currently have compiz installed. However I cannot get a theme manager andteh compiz settings to work.
[10:46] <g333k_work> now I cant enable them
[10:46] <Ricket> erUSUL: no flash for me? that's it, nothing else?
[10:46] <drx> when I use Nautilus to double click /dev then /VG_Guests then /WinSqlVm it says "can't display location" what do I do now?
[10:46] <bobovski> Ricket: why no flash for you?
[10:46] <LjL> ubuntero, besides, though i guess that's what you meant, it doesn't *run Ubuntu from Windows*, it merely allows you to start an Ubuntu installation from inside Windows, instead of by booting from a CD
[10:46] <ubuntero> really? i thought it wouldnt be risky
[10:46] <rosalsazs> i have some one who wants to install ubuntu as a server mainly as a CMS
[10:46] <yomm> what is a kind & correct way to end an application from the terminal ?
[10:46] <erUSUL> Ricket: there is no flash for 64 bits (even windows 64 bits iirc)
[10:46] <Ricket> bobovski: that's what erUSUL just said after I told him the "uname -m" said "x86_64"...
[10:46] <LjL> Ubotu, tell rosalsazs about server | rosalsazs, see the private message from Ubotu
[10:46] <LjL> Ubotu, tell rosalsazs about lamp | rosalsazs, see the private message from Ubotu
[10:46] <rashed202> what's the default password for ubuntu?
[10:46] <Ricket> erUSUL: is it 64 bit?
[10:46] <rosalsazs> they installed ubuntu server but the want a gui
[10:47] <bobovski> ah, no 64 bit flawsh for you?
[10:47] <ubuntero> yes i know that LjL
[10:47] <rosalsazs> would they be better off with ubuntu normal?
[10:47] <ubuntero> it makes a new isntall
[10:47] <LjL> rashed202: there is none, you're asked to choose one during installation
[10:47] <bobovski> won't the 32 bit 9.0 work?
[10:47] <rosalsazs> or should they install a gui on ubuntu server?
[10:47] <Soul^Reaver> ubuntu sucks neway try kubuntu :P
[10:47] <erUSUL> bobovski: no
[10:47] <bobovski> wow, bad adobe
[10:47] <rebelfallen> I am connecting to a wireless router with a USB wireless card with my windows machine. Is there any way to hook up an ethernet cable direct from my windows box to my Ubuntu box to grab the connection from there?
[10:47] <mcphail> yomm: ctrl-c is usually correct
[10:47] <Ricket> erUSUL: so I have 64-bit Ubuntu??
[10:47] <ubuntero> but as i have installed grub and not the windows loader, may be the ubuntu "install" tool gets confused and makes some nasty thing in my system
[10:47] <cpk1> rosalsazs: they can just install X and a WM after they install ubuntu server it doesnt really matter
[10:47] <LjL> rosalsazs: i don't think, a GUI can be installed on the server version too. however, if they're going to use the system for *desktop* kind of things, then the server edition is most probably not the right choice
[10:47] <erUSUL> Ricket: yes
[10:47] <yomm> rebel : sure you can
[10:48] <Ricket> erUSUL: yikes, eww! gotta get it off!
[10:48] <Ricket> erUSUL: I'll be back when I install 32-bit, I had no idea :)
[10:48] <andycap_> erUSUL: when I download it, it just takes me to the archive
[10:48] <rebelfallen> yomm: anything special I need to do or do I just connect it and ubuntu will find the connection?
[10:48] <LjL> ubuntero: it shouldn't, it should just install another GRUB that can boot your Ubuntu, your SuSE and your Windows. it's certainly much less risky than that Windows installer, at any rate
[10:48] <cpk1> LjL: really you cant add X to server version?
[10:48] <erUSUL> Ricket: you installed it.... sure you known what you were doing when you dl the amd64 iso image
[10:48] <andycap_> erUSUL: I am just using the bootup disc, I don't have full Ubuntu
[10:48] <bobovski> most of my flash+firefox problems have been solved wtih flash 9.0 and the updated firefox
[10:48] <LjL> cpk1: i don't think that's what i said
[10:48] <yomm> bridge or share internet connection on windoze box
[10:48] <dcordes> rebelfallen: one way is to connect both clients with a cable to the router, other way is to use a cross over cable, connecting both machines directly.
[10:49] <Soul^Reaver> Yomm u mean winho's :P
[10:49] <yomm> :)
[10:49] <sheriff> hi to everybody, i  am trying to install edgy but after the boot screen i get black screen and the sign which is like i pluged-out the monitor cable so how can i fix it?
[10:49] <rebelfallen> Ahhhhhh gotcha
[10:49] <g333k_work> hi, I have cloned my hard disk, then when I turned on for 2nd time the pc with the cloned hard disk the network devices appeared disable, why?
[10:49] <rosalsazs> LjL: he want to use it to run a cms like mabo etc
[10:49] <erUSUL> andycap_: you can install programs in the livecd (System>Admin>Synaptic)...
[10:49] <bobovski> sheriff: asnd dapper worked ok or is this your first attmept at ubuntu?
[10:49] <LjL> rosalsazs: well, and the problem is?
[10:50] <Soul^Reaver> NEED Help with installing GMP so I can install otehr programs, Its not in my apt-get I have the instaler wont let me Install
[10:50] <dcordes> g333k_work: good question :) just ifconfig up them again
[10:50] <sheriff> bobvski : yes dapper worked
[10:50] <danho> hi, i have a laptop and a desktop, is there any way to combine the cpu power together ? coz usally i use one of them at a time.
[10:50] <ubuntero> yes.. but i meant that windows installer... i have already installed ubuntu with cd, but i want to test this one because i dont need a new partition. but i dont know if i will get troubled since i already have grub installed (instead of the windows loader)... thats what i dont know, anyway you tell me that the installer is buggy
[10:50] <yomm> rebel : after bridging or sharing the windoze side will be handing out dhcp , so set your ubuntu network to dhcp !
[10:50] <rosalsazs> cpk1: is  there any disadvantage of runing apache and stuff on ubuntu normal?
[10:50] <rebelfallen> yomm: ahha. Yeah okay that makes sense. thank you
[10:50] <bobovski> sheriff: weird. tried a different install disk?
[10:50] <g333k_work> dcordes, it doenst work
[10:50] <dcordes> g333k_work: oh what kind of network devices to you use?
[10:50] <yomm> rebel : and the ubuntu should have no probel finding it & connecting
[10:50] <jordo23> I run a 64 bit system with a chroot and Konqueror 32 running under that CHROOT. When I go to my home directory, my mounted drives (on my desktop) are not accessible in Konqueror as they have a lock over them. When selecting them, they say that the drive does not seem to exist anymore. How do you fix this? (I know this isn't #KDE, but this is more a CHroot question than anything)
[10:50] <LjL> rosalsazs: no, it's just that the server edition is optimized for that sort of things. but they'll work quite fine on the desktop edition too
[10:51] <rosalsazs> LjL: : is  there any disadvantage of runing apache and stuff on ubuntu normal?
[10:51] <tito_linux> I have accidentally rm -rf the contents of my home directory, is there anything I can do
[10:51] <LjL> tito_linux: not much
[10:51] <yomm> rebel : and then ubuntu should have no problem finding it & connecting to the net !
[10:51] <LjL> Ubotu, tell tito_linux about testdisk | tito_linux, see the private message from Ubotu
[10:51] <mcphail> tito_linux: restore from backup or use photorec
[10:51] <matahari> hi
[10:51] <sheriff> bobovski: no but it happened to me when i try to install pardus linux but i dont know why it happened i mean the splash screen came up but then i saw only black screen
[10:52] <danho> roughly, how long time is required to build firefox please
[10:52] <bobovski> sheriff: others might correct me, but it sounds like X is having a hard time starting up
[10:52] <tito_linux> photorec?
[10:52] <matahari> i wanted to install ubuntu edgy on my brothers machine (using the alternate install), but it fails at the end of the step "installing software"
[10:52] <danho> on a centrino 1.0M cpu
[10:52] <rosalsazs> LjL: i spose if i wants a gui he should just use ubuntu normal
[10:52] <drx> can someone help me access an LVM volume that says "can't display location"?
[10:52] <mcphail> tito_linux: it is file recovery software
[10:52] <matahari> i tried to skip this step ans just install grub, but grub can't install either
[10:52] <LjL> tito_linux: photorec is a recovery program included with testdisk, which is the package the bot pointed you to
[10:52] <rosalsazs> LjL: might just be slower on old machinies i guess
[10:52] <matahari> any commands on the commandline, so i can finish this installation?
[10:52] <LjL> mcphail: it is in the testdisk package though, that's worth mentioning
[10:52] <g333k_work> dcordes, mmm PCI ?
[10:53] <mcphail> LjL: agreed
[10:53] <bobovski> sheriff: or is it after the spash screen showing nautilis starting?
[10:53] <cpk1> rosalsazs: not really any that I can see, you can just install LAMP if you get the desktop version and then you can slowly wean yourself off of X until you are doing everything in tty1 with no X
[10:53] <nullvector> what manager allows you to configure compiz and themes?
[10:53] <sheriff> bobovski : yes
[10:53] <zoom_> hello
[10:53] <LjL> !repeat | Soul^Reaver
[10:53] <ubotu> Soul^Reaver: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:53] <tito_linux> OK, I'm in testdisk. Where do I go from here?
[10:53] <g333k_work> dcordes, the one that comes inside the server I assume they are PCI, because the server has 2 NICS
[10:53] <zoom_> I have question
[10:53] <bobovski> sheriff: ack. I dunno
[10:53] <yomm> lol reaver beware of obuto
[10:53] <zoom_> Can I install xubuntu in a USB key?
[10:54] <Soul^Reaver> LjL shut it ignored
[10:54] <rosalsazs> cpkl: sorry i did read you coment right
[10:54] <LjL> Soul^Reaver: excuse me?
[10:54] <rendo> This isn't a technical question, but more of a I want to know question.  Roughly how many ubuntu users are there in the world?
[10:54] <tom_> BILLIONS
[10:54] <rosalsazs> cpkl: ok ill just tell him to apt-get install gnome or whatever
[10:54] <macd> or so we'd like the think
[10:54] <rendo> Not potential users :P
[10:54] <LjL> trillions. rendo, try asking on #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[10:55] <rosalsazs> ubuntuguide will say
[10:55] <tito_linux> How do I use the photorec thing, I'm in testdisk now
[10:55] <jhasse> Where can i get feisty herd 3?
[10:55] <houmalam> how do I get flash 9 to work in firefox (Kubuntu)
[10:55] <LjL> tito_linux: i've never actually used it to be honest, i just know it's the only recovery tool available from the repositories
[10:55] <LjL> Ubotu, tell houmalam about flash9 | houmalam, see the private message from Ubotu
[10:56] <tom_> !flash
[10:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:56] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[10:56] <tito_linux> It only seems to recover lost partitions
[10:56] <fluvvell> quit
[10:56] <LjL> houmalam: enable backports, and then install flashplugin-nonfree, i suppose
[10:56] <LjL> tito_linux: well, it tries to recover *files* from lost partitions. if the partition is not actually lost, i don't think it make a difference to it
[10:56] <bobovski> LjL: yes, that works to get 9 now
[10:56] <houmalam> thx, I'll try it
[10:56] <rosalsazs> LjL: do you disagree with cpk1  that u can just install a WM to the sever version?
[10:57] <mcphail> tito_linux: "sudo photorec", then select your options
[10:57] <LjL> tito_linux: still, best you'll be able to do is recover single files here and there, nothing will just give you back your virgin /home directory as it was
[10:57] <KHatfull> Hi, can I stop ubuntu from accessing my bluetooth device by blacklisting the bluetooth driver?  I want to use BT with my VMware XP VM and the device keeps getting killed in vmware because Ubuntu polls it...wil blacklisting "bluetooth" absolutely prevent it from loading?
[10:57] <LjL> rosalsazs: no, i don't disagree. actually i said that you could, i'm not sure why you both seemed to interpret it otherwise..
[10:57] <agnostic> can not reach console with Ctrl+Alt+F1, 2, 3......
[10:57] <KHatfull> I have already unchecked bluetooth services in the services panel
[10:57] <mcphail> tito_linux: the best you will get is a "soup" of recovered files, minus their original filenames etc
[10:57] <LjL> rosalsazs: what i said is, "a GUI can be installed on the server version too. however, if they're going to use the system for *desktop* kind of things, then the server edition is most probably not the right choice"
[10:58] <cpk1> LjL: i missed your comma is what happened =P
[10:58] <tito_linux> Thanks for your help, I've really landed in it now though
[10:58] <tito_linux> Right, resolution: keep backups
[10:58] <axa-axa> If I am to use Beryl, should I just install it's packages and then use `sudo update-alternatives --config x-window-manager` to select Beryl for Gnome?
[10:59] <mcphail> tito_linux: you'll probably be able to recover most of your stuff, but you'll have a lot of work sifting through the debris and renaming
[10:59] <LjL> cpk1: oh, right i see that now, it could be ambiguous yeah
[10:59] <andycap_> erUSUL: I can't find the testdisk in the Synaptic
[10:59] <LjL> Ubotu, tell jhasse_away about away | jhasse_away, see the private message from Ubotu
[10:59] <LjL> !testdisk | andycap_
[10:59] <ubotu> testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.4.1-1 (edgy), package size 459 kB, installed size 1232 kB
[10:59] <LjL> andycap_: do you have universe enabled?
[10:59] <agnostic> can not reach console with Ctrl+Alt+F1, 2, 3......
[10:59] <andycap_> using LiveCD
[10:59] <jonah1980> hi guys can anyone help me, this movie conversion command isn't working: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3737/
[11:00] <houmalam> Thx all, flash is good
[11:00] <andycap_> I honestly have no idea
[11:00] <andycap_> how would I go by enabling it?
[11:00] <LjL> Ubotu, tell andycap_ about universe | andycap_, see the private message from Ubotu
[11:00] <tito_linux> I am so close to suicide! If I could just get back the article I was writing, and some of my coursework, it's going to take 3 hours and it has thousands of files already. Thanks again guys, I need some coffee!
[11:00] <erUSUL> andycap_: you have to enable universe... go to configuration>repositories
[11:01] <LjL> andycap_: short answer, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and add "universe multiverse" to the end of all the lines that end with "main restricted". but if you're not comfortable editing config files, just use the GUI as the page explains
[11:01] <houmalam> which java for Kubuntu 6.10??
[11:01] <rashed202> guys, is there a way I can write to any of the system files while using the live CD?
[11:01] <|PiP|> how can i delete a directory that has files and folders in it with one command?
[11:01] <LjL> rashed202: sure. they just won't survive a reboot
[11:01] <axa-axa> If I am to use Beryl, should I just install it's packages and then use `sudo update-alternatives --config x-window-manager` to select Beryl for Gnome?
[11:01] <LjL> rashed202: but you can write to them fine AFAIK, there's a unionfs with a RAM disk in place
[11:02] <rashed202> Just... normally?
[11:02] <kristianlm> hi eveyone! how can you monitor file access in linux? i want to find out which process is constantly accessing my hardisk. lsof doesnt seem to be of much help...any other good tools?
[11:02] <rashed202> Cuz I can't use the installer, I need to apply a patch so that it works fine with the TV out i'm using
[11:03] <jonah1980> hello anyone: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3737/
[11:03] <jerb> What does ubuntu use for hardware detection ? ie what is the kudzu for ubuntu ?
[11:03] <Rude-Boy> Why is ubuntu so awesome?
[11:03] <Laibsch> My computer does not bring up networking interfaces upon reboot.  Calling "/etc/init.d/networking restart" after logging in from the console brings up the interfaces just fine.  What is keeping ubuntu from configuring the interfaces straight at startup?
[11:04] <agnostic> can not reach console with Ctrl+Alt+F1, 2, 3......
[11:04] <willys_fueguino> Rude-Boy: 'cause it's VERY easy for a total Noob
[11:04] <drx> anyone know how to mount an LVM partition from a different Linux installation?
[11:04] <andre> Rude-boy: ubuntu is awesome, because... well...  it is
[11:04] <Rude-Boy> <--- total noob
[11:04] <Rude-Boy> lol
[11:04] <willys_fueguino> XDDD
[11:04] <willys_fueguino> Rude-Boy: me too
[11:04] <LjL> rashed202, to the best of my knowledge, yes. you're only limited by RAM availability, since the changes you make to the filesystem will be stored in RAM (so installing 300Mb worth of programs is not a good idea, for instance)
[11:04] <willys_fueguino> :-
[11:04] <PirateHead> kristianlm: google "open source file access monitor"
[11:04] <andycap_> it says I do not have the necessary permissions to save the file.
[11:05] <andre> Rude-boy:  on its own on first impression, to me is just an linux distro
[11:05] <Rude-Boy> you have to sudo chmod ugoa+rwx file
[11:05] <willys_fueguino> andycap_: use sudo to open the editor
[11:05] <andycap_> sudo = terminal?
[11:05] <Rude-Boy> i mean i've done a little unix before, but yeah i'm picking up a whole lotta termianl
[11:05] <Rude-Boy> yeah
[11:05] <willys_fueguino> andycap_: yes... from a terminal
[11:05] <willys_fueguino> andycap_: you can use alt+ f2 too
[11:05] <andycap_> well, I opened the file in gedit
[11:06] <andycap_> is that alright?
[11:06] <andre> Rude-Boy: after playing with it for a while, installing beryl, and all the other programs I need to carry on my daily activites.  it becomes as user friendly as windows and best of all it is free and looks awesome.
[11:06] <andycap_> I edited the .list and it won't let me save
[11:06] <adamonline45> andycap_: Make sure you can save the file
[11:06] <Rude-Boy> yeah i love it so far, and with Wine there's almost nothing I can't do that I normally do
[11:06] <willys_fueguino> andycap_: to modify the sources you should open it with gksudo gedit
[11:06] <adamonline45> andycap_: Hah, just what I thought... You have to type 'sudo gedit <filename>' to be able to write a file with root privileges
[11:07] <andycap_> :\ I just want my comp back to normal
[11:07] <willys_fueguino> Rude-Boy: I started to use linux with ubuntu.. that easy it is :-D
[11:07] <rosalsazs> LjL: sorry i think the first time u said i there may have been a typo
[11:07] <rosalsazs> no worrys
[11:07] <Rude-Boy> lol
[11:07] <rosalsazs> :)
[11:07] <kristianlm> piratehead: ive tried to look around of course. but i find it hard to believe there isnt something already that will enable you to see which file was last accessed on the system, and then use lsof to find which process is using it
[11:07] <andre> Rude-Boy: the community is great,  they generally always answer your questions here on irc
[11:07] <rosalsazs> do i use apt-get dist-upgrade to upgrade the kerenel?
[11:07] <Rude-Boy> yeah i am surprised how huge the community is
[11:07] <axa-axa> If I am to use Beryl, should I just install it's packages and then use `sudo update-alternatives --config x-window-manager` to select Beryl for Gnome?
[11:08] <willys_fueguino> Rude-Boy: you CAN use tab to auto-complete nicks, like in console ;-)
[11:08] <kristianlm> i image theres gotta be a nice trick to it? like sorting all files by access tile? is that possible?
[11:08] <PirateHead> kristianlm: sorry, I don't know how to do that. If you don't get a response here, try the Ubuntu forums.
[11:08] <willys_fueguino> andre: agree with that... the ubuntu community is AWESOME (like that, with caps)
[11:08] <andycap_> ok, let me get this straight
[11:08] <andre> Rude-boy: Just be polite and don't ask your questions too often in a short period of time
[11:09] <andycap_> I type sudo gedit "/etc/apt/sources.list"
[11:09] <LjL> rosalsazs: well, you had asked "would they be better off with ubuntu normal?", and i replied "i don't think, a GUI can be installed on the server version too".   it's everything in the comma ;-) i didn't realize that would be ambiguous
[11:09] <Rude-Boy> cool :)
[11:09] <andre> if after asking twice for the answer to a question you don't get the answer,  come back tomorrow and ask again
[11:09] <Fanskapet> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/beryl-plugins_0.1.9999.1~0beryl1_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/beryl/libimgjpeg.so', which is also in package beryl-plugins-extra
[11:09] <Fanskapet> anyone know how to find a solution for this problem while updating ?
[11:10] <Yashy> Can anyone help with an initramfs issue? http://www.pastebin.ca/334707
[11:10] <zoom_> Can I install xubuntu in a USB key?
[11:10] <LjL> Ubotu, tell Fanskapet about beryl | Fanskapet, see the private message from Ubotu
[11:10] <LjL> Fanskapet: anyway try removing beryl-plugins-extra
[11:10] <kristianlm> piratehead: ok but thanks anyway!
[11:11] <PirateHead> zoom_: install it IN a USB key?
[11:11] <PirateHead> zoom_: as in, partition and run your OS on flash memory?
[11:11] <Laibsch> My computer does not bring up networking interfaces upon reboot.  Calling "/etc/init.d/networking restart" after logging in from the console brings up the interfaces just fine.  What is keeping ubuntu from configuring the interfaces straight at startup?
[11:11] <adamonline45> How do I change a users home directory?
[11:12] <andycap_> k, I finished doing the sudo gedit and now I go back to Synaptic and still can't find the package...
[11:12] <PirateHead> adamonline45: as in, you don't want their home folder to be /home/theirusername?
[11:12] <Zambezi> There a Windowsapplication named Doublekiller that checks for double files. Is there a similar thing i Linux?
[11:12] <willys_fueguino> Someone could tell me the command for visudo to make user "willy" use the command firestarter as root without asking for a password??
[11:12] <Pelo> I have a noobish question about partitionning,   I just partitioned a hdd ( secondary hdd on my comp, no os on it),  with one partition taking all the available space ( ext3) , this hd is suppose to be empty and there is already 1.3 Gig of space used on it ,  what is that 1.3 gig being used for ?
[11:12] <mcphail> andycap_: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/OS_Notes#Precompiled_binaries
[11:13] <spua7> Has anyone noticed ubuntu running cooler on a laptop than XP running on it?
[11:13] <willys_fueguino> Pelo: couldn't know...
[11:13] <andycap_> I've tried that it says: "sudo: ./testdisk_static,: command not found"
[11:14] <willys_fueguino> Pelo: My advice to you is to have 2 partitions: 1 / and 1 for /home
[11:14] <adamonline45> No, I want it to be /www, so I can easily move files to my webserver using their account without allowing root ssh access...  Unless that's silly, and there's a better way to transfer files on a local network...
[11:14] <dallingham> I need some help with an NFS server. NFS seems to randomly deny permission to files. Some times they are visible, sometimes they give me a permission denied error.
[11:14] <adamonline45> PirateHead: ^^
[11:14] <aluno> helo
[11:14] <sakobatoneko> how can i get my tool bars back
[11:14] <zoom_> PirateHead: similar to liveCD but on USBflash (pendrive)
[11:15] <PirateHead> adamonline45: can you change the owner of your directory in /www?
[11:15] <_lister> hi all
[11:15] <mcphail> andycap_: then you probably didn't follow the instructions exactly
[11:15] <Jowi> Pelo, if it is empty no space should be used, correct? you should mount the partition on that disk and check
[11:15] <andre> PirateHead:  have you tried creating a symbolic link in your user folder?
[11:15] <adamonline45> PirateHead: Ahh, that's a good idea, I bet that'll work... :D
[11:15] <PirateHead> adamonline45: if your web directory were /www/adamonline45, you could ask the administrator to chown the directory to allow you to access it.
[11:16] <aluno> bye I don't ask your say
[11:16] <willys_fueguino> Jowi: That's not exactly true...
[11:16] <morrolan> if I use dm-crypt to encrypt my /home directory, will it cause problems?
[11:16] <_lister> anyone help with a weird wi-fi problem?
[11:16] <morrolan> _lister, what's your problem?
[11:16] <willys_fueguino> Jowi: When I do a partition, some MBs are used...
[11:16] <adamonline45> PirateHead: Yeah, that makes sense :)  I think I'll do that...
[11:16] <sakobatoneko> a bugreport program poped up and left my screen blank just what i have in my desktop
[11:16] <Lord_Skummel> anyone useing beryl here?
[11:16] <Jowi> willys_fueguino, 1.3 gigabytes? not very likely...
[11:17] <PirateHead> zoom_: it ought to be doable, and there are probably tutorials online for it. I know there are tutorials to get the Damn Small Linux distro working from a USB drive.
[11:17] <morrolan> Lord_Skummel - I do sometimes, use it to show off, then turn it noff when I have work to do
[11:17] <dallingham> Can anyone give me an idea where to look for a solution to my NFS permission problem?
[11:17] <willys_fueguino> Jowi: yes that's true... and very odd :-S
[11:17] <eggs> alright so i finally got all my drivers installed correctly and im getting my glx to start and steam to start new problem; when i start a steam game i get a black screen; any suggestions?
[11:17] <_lister> morrolan, the wifi connection is great and i get 3Mb/s from it.  just what i expect.  if i move to where signal is poor it drops off, again what I expect (100k/s).  When I move back to the good signal, the speed does not pick up again.
[11:17] <PirateHead> zoom_: You'll definitely need to configure your computer's BIOS to try booting from USB before HDD.
[11:17] <Xaco> anyone else haveing a problem with the beryl settings?
[11:17] <andycap_> do I leave a spacebetween main restricted and universe mutliverse?
[11:17] <morrolan> Xaco, Beryl works fine for me
[11:18] <gnomefreak> Xaco: ask in #ubuntu-xgl please
[11:18] <morrolan> andycap_ yes you do
[11:18] <eggs> anyone have any steam black screen problems ?
[11:18] <willys_fueguino> Pelo: format the drive again and then tell us what happened...
[11:18] <zoom_> PirateHead: only this?
[11:18] <andycap_> :\ I did everything then
[11:18] <adamonline45> andycap_: I wouldn't use the script on this page, but it looks like a good resource for examples: http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=502
[11:18] <zoom_> PirateHead: install in USB from CD & this is all?
[11:18] <willys_fueguino> Jowi: It could be that that drive is damaged right??
[11:18] <rosalsazs> LjL: ah sorry my bad, i see
[11:18] <morrolan> if I use dm-crypt to encrypt my /home directory, will it cause problems?
[11:19] <Pelo> willys_fueguino,  this is not the first time I have had this,  I just decided to ask but I can do it again if you realy want to
[11:19] <vrilutza> what it's a comand to test maximu rate refersh with monitor and rezolution?
[11:19] <KennethP> When I access CLI via CTRL+ALT+F1 I can see I've got mail. How do I read this? (I can see that the good old 'mail' is no longer present)
[11:19] <rosalsazs> my typos a terrible anyhoo
[11:19] <Jowi> willys_fueguino, don't know.
[11:19] <PirateHead> zoom_: not necessarily.
[11:19] <_lister> morrolan, did you see my question?  sorry to bug u
[11:19] <Jowi> Pelo, you're sure you are looking at the correct partition on the correct disk when you say it's 1.3GB used?
[11:20] <andycap_> I just want to install TestDisk... I didn't think I would need to run through so many obstacles
[11:20] <eggs> hello?
[11:20] <Pelo> Jowi,  I said the question was noobish,  I didn'T say I was a noob
[11:20] <willys_fueguino> Pelo: That drive is in good conditions?? 'Cause I believe that maybe those 1.3 gigas are damaged sectors and it "looks" like they're used :-\
[11:20] <stephen_> i need help getting wireless to work on my labtop
[11:21] <stephen_> im running a bcm4306 wireless card
[11:21] <vrilutza> what it's a comand to test maximu rate refersh with monitor and rezolution?
[11:21] <Pelo> willys_fueguino, that might be a possibility
[11:21] <rosalsazs> LjL:  if i have edgy and i run apt-get dist-upgraded will that do anything
[11:21] <rosalsazs> upgrade my kernel?
[11:21] <PirateHead> zoom_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=71567
[11:21] <PirateHead> zoom_: the subject is discussed in detail there.
[11:21] <mcphail> andycap_: i have just followed the instructions and it works perfectly
[11:21] <willys_fueguino> Pelo: That's the posibility I think has more probabilities to be truth if you recently formated the drive
[11:22] <Pelo> willys_fueguino, do you know an app to check for bad sectors ?
[11:22] <andycap_> I am using the LiveCD, if that would make a difference
[11:22] <zoom_> PirateHead: I read
[11:22] <rosalsazs> or is it only for going to the next version of ubutnu (after edgey?)
[11:22] <blekos> hi guys
[11:22] <blekos> coudl xplain methis:
[11:22] <willys_fueguino> Pelo: what os are you using right now??
[11:22] <mcphail> andycap_: it shouldn't make a difference. I have used the livecd for this before
[11:22] <Pelo> willys_fueguino,  ubuntu 6.10
[11:22] <blekos> hello, i have a question  when i was booting with a splash screen & quite in kernel it took 2min & 10'' to load, when I removed this options it tooks 15secs to load y?
[11:22] <MementoMori> hello
[11:23] <bluefox83> !multimedia
[11:23] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[11:23] <_lister> Anyone?  My wifi connection is great and i get 3Mb/s from it.  just what i expect.  if i move to where signal is poor it drops off, again what I expect (100k/s).  When I move back to the good signal, the speed does not pick up again.  Ever.  If i drop connection and reconnect, speed returns.  Anyone have a clue?
[11:23] <blekos> has anyone xperienced the same thing?
[11:23] <andycap_> so just follow this example and I will be ableto find the testdisk package in Synaptic?
[11:23] <morrolan> Can anyone help me setup device mapper so I can use dm-crypt?
[11:23] <MementoMori> I have a strange problem with a bluetooth connection to my mobile phone
[11:23] <PirateHead> blekos: I don't know, but you might want to report that as a bug.
[11:23] <morrolan> _lister, what program/applet are you using to manage your connection?
[11:23] <mcphail> andycap_: no. this bypasses synaptic
[11:23] <blekos> whre could i do that?
[11:24] <Jowi> rosalsazs, the dist-upgrade will upgrade system critical files such as the kernel and libc. when you do a normal upgrade it can happen that some files are held back.
[11:24] <morrolan> Can anyone please help me setup device mapper so I can use dm-crypt?
[11:24] <MementoMori> i can create a connection, l2ping it but I cant get auth!
[11:24] <MementoMori> so I cant transfer files....
[11:24] <bluefox83> !avi
[11:24] <andycap_> wait, so if I have already done the instructions, how do I install this??
[11:24] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:24] <morrolan> MementoMori - are you setting your phone in listen mode?
[11:24] <_lister> I've tried using all the text files with wpasupplicant etc and /etc/interfaces and with gnome-network-manager, same thing
[11:24] <willys_fueguino> Pelo: fcsk -n /dev/hd?
[11:24] <EniGm0> hello
[11:25] <willys_fueguino> Pelo: try that
[11:25] <MementoMori> morrolan: yes.... I can see it if I do a hcitool scan
[11:25] <Jowi> rosalsazs, it will not upgrade to the next version of ubuntu unless you change some parameters in /etc/apt/sources.list (using apt-get to upgrade from version to version usually works, but is not recommended)
[11:25] <EniGm0> does anyone know how i can resize my font in console because it exceeds my screen most of the time
[11:25] <morrolan> MementoMori - set your phone into pairing mode, then type:  sudo hidd --search
[11:25] <javb> Hi people. I have an HP Pavillion dv2125nr (AMD x2 Turion) .. Ubuntu Edgy.. Everything working. But i have no headphone jack sense, nor mic nor integrated mic. If i plug  my headphones the laptop speakers should goes off.. but nothing... anyideas?
[11:25] <morrolan> EniGmO - you mean proper CLI or terminal?
[11:25] <LjL> rosalsazs: it will download updated packages from the Updates and Security repositories, if there are any and if you have them enabled
[11:25] <javb> My audio device is nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio
[11:25] <Pelo> thanks willys_fueguino  trying it now
[11:25] <LjL> Ubotu, tell rosalsazs about repositories | rosalsazs, see the private message from Ubotu
[11:25] <morrolan> EniGm0 - you mean proper CLI or terminal?
[11:25] <javb> Took it from command lspci
[11:25] <vrilutza> help pls
[11:25] <willys_fueguino> Pelo: ;-)
[11:25] <EniGm0> i mean console as tty1 to 6
[11:26] <mcphail> andycap_: if you followed the instructions exactly it is installed and ready to go with "sudo ./testdisk_static" as it says on the page
[11:26] <javb> Any ideas guys? (tired of googling :S)
[11:26] <willys_fueguino> well..
[11:26] <LjL> rosalsazs: you certainly *should* have them enabled (well, -security at least), and also make sure that you have them enabled for the Universe and Multiverse components, if you have those enabled
[11:26] <blurn> where do I find the package for open-sshd?
[11:26] <morrolan> EniGm0 - edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and find the current kernel line
[11:26] <willys_fueguino> enough irc today.. see you later
[11:26] <Pelo> willys_fueguino,  this is an unformated hdd at this point, should it need to be formated ?
[11:26] <vrilutza> how to teste my monitor crt with rate refresh and resolutin to maxim posibile
[11:26] <LjL> Ubotu, tell blurn about openssh-server | blurn, see the private message from Ubotu
[11:26] <morrolan> at the end it will say "quiet splash"
[11:26] <morrolan> add to the end:  vga=791
[11:26] <EniGm0> thx man
[11:27] <morrolan> you're welcome
[11:27] <blurn> Ljl the package isnt in my package list, I know what it is....
[11:27] <morrolan> EniGm0 -you will have to reboot to test obviously
[11:27] <morrolan> Can anyone please help me setup device mapper so I can use dm-crypt?
[11:27] <EniGm0> and morrolan: if i remove that quiet will it show the services that are starting up?
[11:28] <LjL> !openssh-server
[11:28] <ubotu> openssh-server: Secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.3p2-5ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 212 kB, installed size 552 kB
[11:28] <MementoMori> morrolan: I can only turn BT on/off, no pairing setup...... and, about visibility, only "to all" or "to none"
[11:28] <morrolan> EniGm0 - I think so, but I don't know if it will interfere with the graphical boot or not - it might just replace the graphical bootup
[11:28] <LjL> blurn: it says it's in main, so it's very surprising that you don't have it available. pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please
[11:28] <EniGm0> i'll try and let u know
[11:28] <morrolan> MementoMori - what phone do you have?
[11:28] <MementoMori> so I think it is already in pair mode
[11:28] <shashi> watcha doin'?
[11:28] <rosalsazs> Jowi: ok the help.ubuntu.com made it sound like all it did was go from draper to edgey etc
[11:28] <MementoMori> lg l600v
[11:28] <rosalsazs> but i have seen the kernel update when usign it before
[11:28] <rosalsazs> :)
[11:29] <rosalsazs> thanks
[11:29] <shashi> wazup?
[11:29] <Jowi> rosalsazs, np
[11:29] <morrolan> MementoMori - can you use the phone with a headset?
[11:29] <shashi> notthin here
[11:29] <blurn> Ljl, I have no /etc/apt/sources, I just installed off the cd a bit ago
[11:29] <shashi> thanks for what
[11:29] <jsjc> how in the world now my ubuntu boots up and there is two windows manager going one on F7 and F9 the other one??? (how can i fix this?)
[11:29] <LjL> blurn: yes you do, but it's /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:29] <variant> are there any ubuntu softwares that _require_ dash instead of bash? i want to switch
[11:30] <shashi> we are friends  get it straight!
[11:30] <MementoMori> morrolan: dont know I dont have a headset...... I'd only want to transfer some files......
[11:30] <javb> ... people?
[11:30] <w1jrm> i am having an issue with my java on firefox
[11:30] <mcphail> variant: that shouldn't be a problem
[11:30] <shashi> what files are u talking?
[11:30] <w1jrm> i did the apt-get and all that for the new java
[11:30] <adamonline45> How do I list all users and their group, logged in or not, from the CLI?
[11:30] <morrolan> MemntoMori - have you installed gnome-bluetooth abd bluez-utils?
[11:30] <redemptateur> hello
[11:30] <variant> adamonline45: w
[11:30] <shashi> hi
[11:30] <w1jrm> but it still say the plug in is missing and i did assign firefox in jave as my default browser
[11:30] <variant> adamonline45: w or who
[11:31] <blurn>  deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe is that what i want LjL ?
[11:31] <shashi> i'm ur firend shashu
[11:31] <MementoMori> morrolan: am in kubuntu and all the bluez thing are installed
[11:31] <morrolan> ok
[11:31] <LjL> blurn: no, i want the whole file
[11:31] <LjL> !pastebin | blurn
[11:31] <ubotu> blurn: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:31] <shashi> whwt ile/
[11:31] <variant> mcphail: ok thanks
[11:31] <w1jrm> so can anyone help me
[11:31] <MementoMori> morrolan: can I paste you a konsole "work" session?
[11:31] <adamonline45> variant: How do I find out which group a user belongs to?
[11:31] <morrolan> in Gnome, you can right-click on a file and select "Send To..."
[11:31] <blurn> LjL, I know you want the whole file, I dont care to pastebin, I know what pastebin is also....
[11:31] <variant> mcphail: now I have somone to blame if it goes wrong :)
[11:32] <mcphail> variant: ;p
[11:32] <morrolan> ffrom there, I can choose OBEX/Bluetooth
[11:32] <adamonline45> variant: who only seems to show who's logged in...
[11:32] <shashi> so what do u mena abut the file?
[11:32] <variant> adamonline45: thats what you wanted?
[11:32] <shashi> what file do u want?
[11:32] <morrolan> MemntoMori - you can't paste it in here - do you know how to use a paste-bin?
[11:32] <vrilutza> I'm need help
[11:32] <LjL> blurn: then help yourself
[11:32] <dcordes> somebody has an answer to my bashscript question?
[11:32] <morrolan> !pastebin
[11:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:32] <shashi> paste what in there?
[11:33] <adamonline45> yes, I want to see a list of _all_ users and which group they belong to
[11:33] <g333k_work> hi, how can I enable my network device? I tried with #ifconfig eth0 up,  but didnt work, any clue?
[11:33] <shashi> do u want the  file?
[11:33] <vrilutza> how to teste my monitor crt to rate refresh and resolution to maxim posibile supporte monitor.
[11:33] <MementoMori> morrolan: watch here please: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3743/
[11:33] <redemptateur> I have a low record sound. In my control volume CMI8738-MC6, I ve try to check and uncheck mute and unmute everything but i've still have a low record sound... is anybody can help ?
[11:33] <variant> adamonline45: I don't know of any direct command, but you can combine it with grep and cat /etc/group to get the info you want
[11:33] <Jowi> adamonline45, all users and groups are in /etc/passwd and /etc/group
[11:33] <mcphail> adamonline45: look at /etc/passwd
[11:33] <adamonline45> Thank you all!
[11:33] <variant> redemptateur: apt-get install alsamixer
[11:33] <redemptateur> thx
[11:33] <variant> redemptateur: apt-get install alsamixergui
[11:33] <variant> redemptateur: then use that to set the record level
[11:34] <morrolan> MementoMori - read it
[11:34] <EniGm0> morrolan: vga=736 is considered an undefined mode number
[11:34] <MementoMori> morrolan: any idea'
[11:34] <MementoMori> ?
[11:34] <morrolan> EniGm0 - vga=791 I said
[11:34] <morrolan> 800x600x16 colours
[11:34] <EniGm0> eek
[11:34] <morrolan> standard
[11:34] <EniGm0> thats why :)
[11:34] <javb> no one reading me or no one has an idea of my prob ?
[11:34] <morrolan> lol
[11:34] <jsjc> anyone knows where the number of X sessions is controlled?? so I can fix my problem?
[11:34] <variant> adamonline45: users tend to belong to their own gropu.. as in variant in groups users and variant
[11:34] <variant> jsjc: what problem?
[11:35] <Jowi> morrolan, i though 791 was 1024x768...
[11:35] <morrolan> MementoMori - I have both my phone and a bluetooth mini keyboard configured and I've never seeked auth :(
[11:35] <concept10> jsjc, you mean the number of ttys?] 
[11:35] <shashi> what question do u wnat to ask me?
[11:35] <variant> jsjc: there is no control over hte number of xsessions, to start a new session just specify the correct display (one thats not allready in use) and that doesnt mean a physical display.. it's a virtual or physical thing
[11:35] <adamonline45> variant: I see that now :)  I wasn't sure if I gave him a different group or not... ;)
[11:35] <shashi> whta is that?
[11:35] <Jowi> morrolan, 788 should be 600x600 16bit
[11:35] <rio> anyone here use azureus? im downloading something that is 9.97 GB.  So far, it's at 86.1%, but 15.92 GB has been downloaded so far.  Whats going on?
[11:35] <javb> Hi people. I have an HP Pavillion dv2125nr (AMD x2 Turion) .. Ubuntu Edgy.. Everything working. But i have no headphone jack sense, nor mic nor integrated mic. If i plug  my headphones the laptop speakers should goes off.. but nothing... anyideas?
[11:35] <dcordes> is there a way to define a certain command with a different user inside a script which is ran with sudo?
[11:35] <morrolan> !bluetooth
[11:35] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[11:36] <shashi> that 's bullshit u want me?
[11:36] <drx> can anyone help me add an LVM volume entry to FSTAB?
[11:36] <variant> rio: that is total transfer including upload
[11:36] <MementoMori> morrolan: thank you for your time anyway
[11:36] <shashi> what are u saying?
[11:36] <adamonline45> rio: did you accidentally download it twice, and the 88% is the total?
[11:36] <shashi> whatever
[11:36] <variant> rio: probably at least, it could be there were some corrupt chunks which it has re-downloaded
[11:36] <MementoMori> I'll read the doc you sent me
[11:36] <shashi> u are jealously
[11:37] <morrolan> MementoMori - I have an easy way to auth it
[11:37] <shashi> u did what did it say?
[11:37] <rio> variant so when it finally gets to 100%, it will delete the rest, correct?
[11:37] <ld50> when i press mute on my keyboard a image appears (showing that i have no sound), what program is responsible for showing this image, and how can i use it in kde for example?
[11:37] <variant> rio: it probably wont store the corrupt parts (if that is indeed what is going on)
[11:37] <jsjc> variant, when i boot up my system I get two X display ruunning and one of them runs XGL the other does not and I am getting a bit crazy
[11:37] <shashi> u are u
[11:37] <variant> jsjc: that sounds a bit wrong
[11:37] <rio> variant what are the other possibilities
[11:37] <Onimae> So, all of a sudden, I can't print using my Linux machine anymore. I have a printer attached to my Windows machine and am printing to it through samba, but ever since a few days ago it decided not to work.
[11:38] <Onimae> Anyone know of a way to fix this?
[11:38] <shashi> u are crazy for me.
[11:38] <jsjc> i want only one x display running
[11:38] <EniGm0> morrolan: deleting the "quiet" in the kernel line from /boot/grub/menu.lst shows the services starting up underneat the splash screen and nothing else changes
[11:38] <shashi> now u telll me?
[11:38] <jsjc> thats more than enough
[11:38] <variant> rio: what adamonline45 suggests is one, also that that is the total of uploads and downloads. not just downloads
[11:38] <morrolan> EniGm0 - what type of monitor are you using?
[11:38] <EniGm0> morrolan: and 791 works great thx!
[11:39] <EniGm0> morrolan: A philips 150s lcd
[11:39] <jadacyrus> what port does Remote Desktop use/
[11:39] <rio> variant oh thats what he meant...
[11:39] <Seveas> jadacyrus, windows remote desktop or vnc?
[11:39] <jadacyrus> vnc
[11:39] <morrolan> EniGm0 - I'll send you mine in a pastebin
[11:39] <rio> variant,adamonline45- cool, thanks!
[11:40] <shashi> who is that?
[11:40] <EniGm0> morrolan: it's okay now
[11:40] <boabsta_> jadacyrus, 5900 normally or 590n where n is the desktop number
[11:40] <Onimae> So, all of a sudden, I can't print using my Linux machine anymore. I have a printer attached to my Windows machine and am printing to it through samba, but ever since a few days ago it decided not to work.
[11:40] <Seveas> shashi, behave
[11:40] <jadacyrus> boabsta_: thx
[11:40] <EniGm0> morrolan: i just wanted to let u know that deleting that 'quiet' will show u the services starting up at boottime
[11:40] <adamonline45> rio yw
[11:40] <shashi> what?
[11:40] <variant> jadacyrus: 3389 by default
[11:40] <shashi> what hell?\
[11:41] <Seveas> variant, that's windows remote desktop, not vnc :)
[11:41] <sakobatoneko> i need help
[11:41] <squeaks> hey, my dmesg output reports it cannot find a kernel module, how can i find the complete path that it is looking for it at?
[11:41] <jadacyrus> so 5900 then?
[11:41] <variant> Seveas: thats what he wanted is it not?
[11:41] <Seveas> variant, no :)
[11:41] <shashi> in commmunity ceter
[11:41] <LjL> shashi: what are you rambling on about?
[11:41] <variant> shashi: do you have a question?
[11:41] <n2diy> I just installed kppp on my Dapper test box, and I'm getting a dcop error, can't create ~/.kde/share/apps/kppp/kppp.pid. Kppp.pid exsists, but what is weird, it doesn't exsist on my production box?
[11:41] <Seveas> squeaks, what's it looking for?
[11:41] <morrolan> EniGm0 - sorry, I misunderstood when you said nothing else changed!
[11:41] <boabsta_> shashi are you a bot?
[11:42] <squeaks> Seveas, " Firmware 'ipw2100-1.3.fw' not available or load failed."
[11:42] <variant> n2diy: you would be better of with wvdial..
[11:42] <shashi> what is that?
[11:42] <morrolan> EniGm0 - so that did what you wanted?
[11:42] <variant> shashi: never mind, he was just wondering why you were talking without saying anything
[11:42] <Seveas> !find ipw2100-1.3.fw
[11:42] <LjL> n2diy, seems the directory doesn't have the right permissions, to me
[11:42] <EniGm0> morrolan: yes thanks, i can see more now when i do ps aux, still not everything, but more :)
[11:42] <ubotu> File ipw2100-1.3.fw found in linux-image-2.6.17-10-386, linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic, linux-image-2.6.17-10-server, linux-image-2.6.17-10-server-bigiron, xen-image-xen0-2.6.17-6-bigiron-xen0 (and 2 others)
[11:42] <Seveas> variant, that's nice way to put it :)
[11:42] <shashi> what file are u talking abut?
[11:42] <variant> Seveas: I thought so
[11:42] <variant> :)
[11:43] <EniGm0> morrolan: or is it also possible to make the lines split?
[11:43] <morrolan> I told you the wrong mode btw but it will work fine - 791 is 1024x768x64k colours
[11:43] <LjL> n2diy: it's probably a file that's only created while kppp is running, and then deleted (like a lock file). but if it can't write to the directory, it can't create the file.
[11:43] <morrolan> Enigm0 what do you mean?
[11:43] <Seveas> squeaks, try reinstalling the kernel image package
[11:43] <grodius> Hi, I need help. Im trying to install the JDK and I have a .bin file. How do I install it?
[11:43] <frogzoo> n2diy: ls -ld ~
[11:43] <Seveas> !java | grodius
[11:43] <ubotu> grodius: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[11:43] <nikitis> i need help with java.   I've installed sun-java6-jre via synaptic.  But it did not install the Firefox Java plugin.  What must I do for this?
[11:43] <variant> grodius: there are supported ways to install java jdk, via apt. you can use the sun .bin file if you want but it's not as easy
[11:43] <shashi> what is that?
[11:43] <EniGm0> morrolan: when i do ps aux; some lines go out of the screen, so i cant see the end, and they don't split and go on on the next line. Is there a way to do that?
[11:43] <squeaks> Seveas, it's a custom kernel that i installed, so i'm looking and there is no /lib/firmware/2.6.19* for my kernel
[11:43] <Seveas> nikitis, you need sun-java6-plugin
[11:44] <shashi> u are crazy
[11:44] <jamesbrose1> I'm getting the error "  WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED!" when trying to connect to my test server box via ssh, can anybody help me ?
[11:44] <n2diy> LjL: roger, that would explain why it doesn't exsist on the other box.
[11:44] <Seveas> squeaks, then it's your problem
[11:44] <shashi> are u married?
[11:44] <nikitis> Seveas, oh thanks i'll brb
[11:44] <Seveas> jamesbrose1, did you reinstall ubuntu or reinstall ssh on that machine
[11:44] <Seveas> ?
[11:44] <variant> jamesbrose1: that means that you have uninsstalled or deleted the ssh config file on the server
[11:44] <variant> jamesbrose1: and it has generated a new public/private key pair
[11:44] <squeaks> Seveas, i want to make a symbolic link for my new kernel that links to /lib/firmware/2.6.17-10-generic, but i'm not sure what to call the link
[11:44] <morrolan> EniGm0 - I don't know I'm afraid - look here for more mode numbers:  http://jsdl.sourceforge.net/docs/howto_console.html
[11:44] <jamesbrose1> variant, any way I can fix this?
[11:44] <Jowi> jamesbrose1, delete $HOME/.ssh/known_hosts and try again
[11:45] <variant> jamesbrose1: just delete the key from your ~/.ssh directory
[11:45] <Seveas> squeaks, that probably won't work
[11:45] <variant> jamesbrose1: then reconnect
[11:45] <n2diy> frogzoo: that just lists my home dir, and nothing else.
[11:45] <EniGm0> thank you!
[11:45] <squeaks> just copying the module then to some directory from the existing kernel?
[11:45] <Seveas> jamesbrose1, variant: PLEASE don't give insecure advise
[11:45] <squeaks> Seveas, what should i do?
[11:45] <Seveas> squeaks, read a kernel compilation manual and figure out how to put the firmware in the correct place
[11:45] <LjL> n2diy: do it for that directory that kppp.pid is supposed to reside in (if that's what you were talking about), and compare it with your other box
[11:45] <jamesbrose1> Seveas, what would be secure?
[11:45] <squeaks> k, thanks
[11:45] <dcordes> can't somebody help?
[11:45] <frogzoo> n2diy: wrong command  "ls -ld ~"
[11:45] <LjL> n2diy: if the permissions are different, well...
[11:46] <Psy-X> ?
[11:46] <ArtificialSynaps> Go Ubuntu!!!
[11:46] <MementoMori> morrolan: I have to tell you all the truth... the mobile phone isnt mine..... it's my sister phone... I'll suggest her to buy a better one next time..... I gave up with it :D
[11:46] <LjL> dcordes: you want to run one command as a different user?
[11:46] <Onimae> So, all of a sudden, I can't print using my Linux machine anymore. I have a printer attached to my Windows machine and am printing to it through samba, but ever since a few days ago it decided not to work.
[11:46] <Seveas> jamesbrose1, if host identification changes, always check whether ssh has really been reinstalled
[11:46] <variant> jamesbrose1: delete ~/.ssh/known_hosts
[11:46] <ld50> is this volume thing specific to ubuntu or is it a gnome thing? -> http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/5527/35838059bs2.png
[11:46] <frogzoo> n2diy: do you have write & execute permissions is the point?
[11:46] <dcordes> LjL: yes
[11:46] <jadacyrus> im trying to access my router via links, but there is no username  only a password,how do i specifiy this in links?
[11:46] <morrolan> MementoMori -best way!  Tell her to get an Ericsson :)
[11:46] <jamesbrose1> variant, Ok, thanks it worked :)
[11:46] <variant> Seveas: yeah, i guess security dictates that :)
[11:46] <Seveas> jamesbrose1, if it is reinstalled, then it's safe to remove that file and reconnect
[11:46] <riddlebox> does anyone know if it is possible to download a .src.rpm and convert it to a .deb and install it?
[11:46] <LjL> dcordes: sudo -u <user> <command> -- see also "man sudo"
[11:46] <dcordes> LjL: inside my bash script which is ran as root
[11:46] <variant> jamesbrose1: just make sure your connecting to the right server ;)
[11:46] <morrolan> riddlebox - it should be yes
[11:47] <Seveas> riddlebox, rpms are from the dark side of linux. We use deb
[11:47] <pierrelourens> does AIGLX / Beryl work in current parallels
[11:47] <LjL> dcordes: if the script's run as root, then you can use "su" as well
[11:47] <morrolan> riddlebox sudo apt-get install alien
[11:47] <jamesbrose1> Yeah I am, variant, and its internel anyway :)
[11:47] <MementoMori> morrolan: I really prefer nokia..... I never had an ericsson
[11:47] <morrolan> or look it up online first
[11:47] <Seveas> morrolan, that won't work
[11:47] <n2diy> frogzoo: on the file yes, but not for ~/.kde
[11:47] <javb> :/
[11:47] <Seveas> he asks about .src.rpm, not .rpm
[11:47] <variant> riddlebox: thats just packaged source code, your better off downloading the source code in a normal archive format
[11:47] <dcordes> LjL: ok so i just switch to to that user inside the script before i run the coomand?
[11:47] <riddlebox> variant, the source only comes in a .src.rpm
[11:47] <frogzoo> n2diy: chmod 700 ~/.kde
[11:47] <arron> Is there anyway to use windows screensavers in linux?
[11:47] <variant> riddlebox: no .tar.gz or .tar.bz2?
[11:48] <LjL> dcordes: with sudo, you don't switch, you just prefix "sudo -u <user>" to the command itself
[11:48] <daviey> how come ubuntu doesn't have a "asterisk-addons" module???
[11:48] <morrolan> arron - no
[11:48] <variant> riddlebox: you can install rpm if you want
[11:48] <variant> riddlebox: apt-get install rpm
[11:48] <riddlebox> variant, http://www.qmailtoaster.com/
[11:48] <arron> :(
[11:48] <arron> ok
[11:48] <Seveas> arron, with wine you can crate a kludge but it's not pretty :)
[11:48] <dcordes> LjL: great- that's just what i'm looking for. thanks a lot
[11:48] <variant> riddlebox: don't use it to install software though, just extract the source and compile normally
[11:48] <arron> ok never mind then
[11:48] <arron> just wondering
[11:48] <morrolan> arron - no problem.  The linux ones are better anyway
[11:48] <jadacyrus> im trying to access my router via links, but there is no username  only a password,how do i specifiy this in links?
[11:48] <arron> i know :D
[11:49] <riddlebox> variant, I can install rpm to do the conversion to create an rpm then use alien to convert it to a deb package then?
[11:49] <arron> just that alot of them are openGL and the ati drivers don't work on my card :(
[11:49] <variant> riddlebox: no.. the src.rpm contains source code. you will have to compile it either way
[11:49] <variant> arron: what card do you have?
[11:50] <jadacyrus> is there a way to change what port VNC server runs on?
[11:50] <riddlebox> variant, yeah, can I use rpm to create the package from the source package
[11:50] <arron> variant: Ati Radeon 9550
[11:50] <variant> arron: you should be able to use the Libre drivers (lucky for you)
[11:50] <arron> what are they?
[11:50] <arron> and how do i get them
[11:51] <grodius> Whats the best IDE for java in linux
[11:51] <variant> riddlebox: no, you have to extract the source code and compile it, then you can make a deb if you like but it's basically allready installed
[11:51] <variant> arron: it should be pre installed if your card is supported
[11:51] <variant> arron: do glxinfo | grep direct
[11:51] <riddlebox> variant, ohh I see
[11:51] <variant> arron: if it says direct rendering yes then you already have the drivers installed and working
[11:52] <variant> arron: if it says no then you have some work to do
[11:52] <arron> says no
[11:52] <arron> :(
[11:52] <variant> arron: DOH!
[11:52] <arron> variant: what do i have to do
[11:52] <variant> arron: could be complicated ish
[11:52] <wonderpoop> how come when i install kubuntu i can't open limewire?
[11:52] <arron> :'(
[11:52] <dcordes> LjL: how can i make my script automatically give a passowrd instead of me when i'm asked for one?
[11:52] <variant> arron: And I am trying to shave at the same time so gimmie a few mins
[11:52] <arron> lol, ok
[11:54] <devin_> need some help with dapper-edgy upgrade. when i got finished upgrading it rebooted, but am unable to load kdm, heres what my system log says http://pastebin.com/873142
[11:54] <redemptateur> variant : I ve installed the alsa mixer but it still doesn't work
[11:54] <LjL> dcordes: if it's run as root, it shouldn't ask for a password after
[11:55] <variant> devin_: thats very nasty looking
[11:55] <wonderpoop> any1?
[11:55] <devin_> variant i know
[11:55] <devin_> thinking i should have kept dapper
[11:55] <dcordes> LjL: the script mounts a sshfs from a remote host which requires me to type the remote account's pass
[11:56] <variant> devin_: I reccomend you reboot to the live cd and run the memtest utility as it looks (from that error message at least) like you have a bad ram stick. I have never seen that one in X before so i could well be wrong.
[11:56] <variant> devin_: if it's bad ram then it's not edgys fault
[11:56] <variant> devin_: try installing gdm instead and see if that works
[11:57] <LjL> dcordes: oh. well, that's harder i guess... besides, hardcoding a password in a script is generally far from a good idea, you know! isn't there some mount option for sshfs to use a password specified in a separate file? for samba you can do that
[11:57] <variant> LjL: I am sure you could use key based authentication
[11:57] <devin_> variant tried gdm earlier it works but i get this theme error everytime it loads
[11:58] <dcordes> LjL: is there any difference between hardcoding it in the script itself or in a seperate file`?
[11:58] <variant> devin_: remove kdm and reinstall.. delete the config file and try a new one.. I dunno. .just gonna have to try a few things
[11:58] <dcordes> LjL: i mean from the security POV
[11:58] <arron> variant: you finished shaving yet?
[11:58] <variant> devin_: really try memtestx86 as that will pick up any memory faults (you should let it run for days though so it can fully test everything)
[11:58] <devin_> variant alright, ill shall return
[11:59] <variant> arron: no, keep putting the shaver down :)
[11:59] <redemptateur> variant : i ve try to modify my sound properties with the ALSA mixer like you said to me but i ve still a low record sound
[11:59] <arron> lol well i really need to know how to get these drivers :)
[11:59] <Lars_G> ehem. HELP :), I want to install the new libxine, but I tried a unstable deb and of course it failed on dependencies. trouble is, now if I do any apt-get it still wants to install it. and if I do apt-get -f install it will try to remove my current xine and all dependents (like amarok)... any way to make apt forget about libxine for now withotu removing my current one?
[11:59] <mzuverink> what command do i need to chmod my /media/WD Passort external hd to make it readable and writable by all system users?
[11:59] <LjL> dcordes: well, you can make the separate file only readable for root, for starters (you can do that with the script, too, i guess, but a script is generally more at risk of being left with the wrong permissions that a separate file). but anyway, i didn't focus on "SSH" -- as variant said, one of the main points of SSH is key based authentication, so you really should use that. i found it a headache to set up, but... :o)
[11:59] <jadacyrus> is there a way to change what port VNC server runs on?
[12:00] <riddlebox> variant, if I install these custom packages, will ubuntu have a problem or even try to upgrade them?
[12:00] <variant> jadacyrus: surely yes
[12:00] <eck090> hey what is the command to create new users in shell?
[12:00] <riddlebox> add user
[12:00] <riddlebox> or user add
[12:00] <jadacyrus> vajriant: do you know where to do thi?
[12:00] <drx> can anyone please tell me how to mount a /dev/sdb device?
[12:01] <flint-dude> Hello ubuntu
[12:01] <riddlebox> eck090, useradd