[12:14] <mervteck> heyyy cali pwns!
[12:14] <BluesKaj> no says aboot here in ontario
[12:14] <cpk1> BluesKaj: aww, but alot of eh's?
[12:15] <BluesKaj> but it ain' t abowwwwwwwt either  ...aye ?
[12:15] <codyt> I've heard aboot once, talking to a girl from Canada, but she didn't always pronounce it that way.
[12:15] <nats> hi again
[12:15] <nats> :P
[12:15] <codyt> hi
[12:16] <cpk1> hrmm i suppose i pronounce it abowt
[12:16] <BluesKaj> that's sort of the common thing amongst ppl who don't express themselves too well, something akin to your "like"
[12:16] <phobiac> I'm considering downloading apt-build because it seems useful, anyone know if there are any real benefits to it?
[12:16] <jubuntu> hi, how do i use vixie-cron's crontab non-interactively?
[12:16] <dddude55> sudo dmesg | grep acx
[12:16] <dddude55> just berings up another command line
[12:16] <dddude55> is that bad lol
[12:17] <djwilcox> hi im having a bit of grief with wireless
[12:17] <dddude55> lol
[12:17] <phobiac> !apt-build
[12:17] <ubotu> apt-build: frontend to apt to build, optimize and install packages. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.17 (edgy), package size 33 kB, installed size 188 kB
[12:17] <djwilcox> seem to have a problem getting an ip address with dhcp
[12:17] <BluesKaj> !wireless
[12:17] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:17] <djwilcox> yer been thru the wireless docs
[12:17] <dddude55> well i had no luck with acx100
[12:17] <djwilcox> still cant work it out
[12:18] <cpk1> dddude55: you can just read dmesg yourself instead of using grep
[12:19] <djwilcox> i can scan for network with my wireless card but not connect and get an ip
[12:19] <djwilcox> something about dhcp and sleeping
[12:19] <dddude55> 17184969.096000]  pccard: PCMCIA card inserted into slot 0
[12:19] <dddude55> [17184969.096000]  pcmcia: registering new device pcmcia0.0
[12:20] <dddude55> --- ^
[12:20] <makuseru> im trying to remove a package that is broken and i cant remove it, a apr-get remove, a autoremove, none of it works, how can i remove this package
[12:20] <dddude55> if it sees it why wont it recognise it >.<
[12:20] <dddude55> i just cahnged it to the other pcbus slot and it now says detected in slot 1
[12:20] <dddude55> so i know it sees it
[12:20] <dddude55> it just doesnt want to work for me
[12:20] <Theory> makuseru: what error when you try to remove it?
[12:22] <mervteck> hey guys i got a konsole running and im in the directory of my ventrilo server but whats the command to tell it to run it
[12:22] <djwilcox> has anyone managed to get 6.10 working wirelessly with broadcom chips
[12:23] <djwilcox> im using a powerpc mac and cant connect to my open wireless network
[12:24] <lz1gjd> could any1 tell me how to access the filesystem on nokia n70
[12:24] <lz1gjd> !gnokii
[12:24] <ubotu> gnokii: Datasuite for the mobile phones (console & X). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.13-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 811 kB, installed size 2944 kB
[12:25] <indygo> so what is the program extension under linux?  Is it .exe like in windows, or something different?
[12:25] <cpk1> indygo: what?
[12:25] <indygo> does linux have file extensions?
[12:26] <lz1gjd> indygo: if a file is executable is defined by it attributes - x
[12:26] <cpk1> sure add .whatever and you have an extension
[12:26] <makuseru> Theory: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3663/
[12:26] <indygo> ahh, so that's completely different than in windows :)  no wonder I can't find any programs! lol
[12:27] <cpk1> linux treats everyfile the same unless you tell it otherwise
[12:27] <Theory> makuseru: sudo dpkg -r beryl-plugins-extra may be what you want
[12:27] <nats> codyt we can't talk in private
[12:27] <nats> !
[12:28] <makuseru> Theory: ill try
[12:30] <lz1gjd> i wonder if any can tell me if it is possible to transfer files from my nokia file system to my computer using serial cable
[12:30] <dddude55> restarting
[12:34] <lz1gjd> please, anyone ?
[12:36] <dddude55> !dvd
[12:36] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[12:42] <vbgunz> why does Kubuntu ship with kghostview and kpdf?
[12:43] <juan_> hola a todos
[12:45] <juan_> alguien q haya podido instalar radeon 9250 en Edgy
[12:45] <juan_> ?
[12:46] <nats> hello
[12:46] <juan_> hi
[12:48] <BluesKaj> what's the key on a laptop that's equivalent to right click on a pc , to open a dialog box menu ?
[12:48] <dddude55> windows xp and their permissions are stupid lol
[12:48] <dddude55> um that would be the right click of the laptop
[12:49] <BluesKaj> or touchpad
[12:49] <juan_> problem with ati 9250 and kub edgy
[12:52] <phobiac> BluesKaj: I've never seen a touchpad that can right click. Tapping it usually left clicks. There should be two extra buttons for right and left click though.
[12:52] <Shak1> juan: this is an english speaking channel, if you want support in your native language please try #kubuntu-es     : regarding your problem , the radeon 9250 has some issues with the dri. i cant help you with ati-support because i am used to nvidia but have a look at this page http://dri.freedesktop.org/snapshots/
[12:52] <phobiac> However many laptop keyboards I've seen have a key (looks like a piece of paper with a cursor on it) that opens the right click menu...
[12:53] <phobiac> Although mine doesn't seem to be working for me.
[12:53] <phobiac> !spanish | juan
[12:53] <ubotu> juan: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:54] <juan_> thanks
[12:55] <Shak1> !klingonian |shak1
[12:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about klingonian - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:55] <Shak1> ^
[12:56] <dope> is there any type of monitoring software i can put on my computer to see if my roommate is using my computer?
[12:58] <dddude55> well yes
[12:58] <dddude55> linux comes with vpn software, if you set it up to watch mode
[12:58] <phobiac> dope: Your computer is passworded isn't it?
[12:58] <dddude55> then you can see the screen
[12:59] <dope> i can't access my comp when i'm at work
[12:59] <dddude55> but i dont know a way to hide it so a roomate would know if it was opoen
[12:59] <dope> yes it does but i'm curious what they're doing
[12:59] <dddude55> have you tried asking them?
[01:00] <dope> it's more like i know they're using it, i'm curious what they're up to
[01:00] <phobiac> dope: Why not just lock the computer so they can't get into it in the first place...
[01:00] <dope> it's more like i know they're using it, i'm curious what they're up to
[01:01] <phobiac> You could set up VNC.
[01:02] <dope> i'm at work while this is taking place
[01:02] <phobiac> I think it's better to confront them or just lock the computer when you walk away.
[01:02] <phobiac> Do they know your password or something? Why not change it if they do?
[01:02] <dope> [dope]  it's more like i know they're using it, i'm curious what they're up to
[01:02] <dddude55> ...
[01:02] <dope> they use the guest account
[01:03] <dope> i don't wanna be a douche and just change it on them
[01:03] <phobiac> This is on a linux comp right?
[01:03] <dope> yup
[01:04] <dope> although i do put pornographic wallpapers on the guest account
[01:04] <dope> that still doesn't deter them
[01:05] <Theory> lol
[01:05] <phobiac> If they are using it and you don't want them to, just change it or confront them. It's better then possible hurt feelings if they find out you were spying on them.
[01:05] <Shak1> haha me neither
[01:05] <dope> i'd like to ween them off it
[01:05] <dope> maybe i'll have beryl auto start
[01:05] <phobiac> Oh, and if you want something to confront them slap goatse on the guest account as the wallpaper.
[01:06] <Shak1> hehe
[01:06] <dope> i put lesbian porn on it
[01:06] <dope> my roommate is a female
[01:06] <LjL> !ohmy
[01:06] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:06] <phobiac> Once again, goatse just may solve your problem.
[01:06] <phobiac> However it might get you some odd looks...
[01:09] <dope> we'll see how the L-porn goes
[01:09] <Shak1> dope: LKL Linux KeyLogger        might solve your problem. put it in startup and watch the logfiles. its antisocial but more convenient then goatse
[01:10] <ccherrett> I have a 160 GB ide drive that was flaking out in one machine I had. I would like to try to see if it is usable. Anyone know what I could to to test the drive?
[01:11] <dope> actually is there a way to block a site
[01:11] <phobiac> dope: What's your router?
[01:11] <phobiac> If you have one.
[01:12] <dope> wrt54g
[01:12] <phobiac> Perfect. Give me a moment.
[01:12] <dope> actually i gotta run
[01:12] <phobiac> In your router settings
[01:12] <phobiac> Under "access restrictions"
[01:12] <phobiac> You can block certain websites.
[01:13] <dope> i just want the site to be blocked for the guest account on linux :)
[01:13] <phobiac> By url or by keyword.
[01:13] <phobiac> Ah, no idea how to do that.
[01:13] <dope> darn
[01:13] <Minataku> Yay!
[01:13] <phobiac> You could always block just before you leave then unblock when you get back.
[01:13] <dope> i'll figure it out when i get back
[01:13] <Minataku> clear
[01:13] <Minataku> Doh
[01:13] <phobiac> Alright
[01:14] <Shak1> you can block the site on a specific time of the day , say when you know you are at work aso.
[01:14] <Minataku> Forgot the slash
[01:14] <Shak1> or you can look the whole internet from 800 h-1200 h for example
[01:14] <Shak1> lock
[01:15] <phobiac> Shak1 is right, I didn't think of that.
[01:17] <endo602> what command do i use to find the processes that are being useD?
[01:18] <phobiac> endo602: Top in the CLI
[01:18] <phobiac> If you want GUI go with ksysguard
[01:18] <endo602> terminal?
[01:19] <phobiac> top
[01:23] <mortici> are there any settings i can change to make konq more stable while browsing the web
[01:23] <phobiac> Hmm, I'm setting up apt-build. It asks for my architecture. I've got an AMD Turion 64 Mobile Technology ML-32. There's a bunch of options for Atholon, but no Turion. Any ide what I should choose?
[01:23] <phobiac> athlon*
[01:24] <phobiac> idea* Typos
[01:26] <dddude55> !flash
[01:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:26] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[01:30] <dddude55> !firefox
[01:30] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[01:30] <dawn> can I delete folders from /media?
[01:31] <phobiac> dawn: /media is usually where mounted drives go
[01:31] <dawn> I know I have one folder that is persistant
[01:31] <dawn> it was never properly umounted
[01:32] <dawn> and when I plug any usb device in the cahce copy is shown
[01:32] <dawn> *cache
[01:32] <beg1689> i have a question, something i dont understand
[01:32] <beg1689> where is my sound coming from?
[01:32] <mortici> god wth
[01:32] <dawn> LOL
[01:32] <beg1689> no artsd, no esd
[01:33] <beg1689> somone told me a sound daemon is needed for sound
[01:33] <mortici> why is konq so SLOW at loading web pages?
[01:33] <beg1689> because you touch yourself at night?
[01:33] <dawn> heh
[01:33] <phobiac> From my understanding /media is just where the mounted drives are mounted to. The folders in there aren't the drive actually being mounted, they are there for it to be mounted to.
[01:33] <mortici> are you spying on me?
[01:33] <mortici> or are you jelous that you can't?
[01:33] <dawn> ok phobiac
[01:33] <beg1689> little form column A, little form column B
[01:34] <mortici> exceltent
[01:34] <beg1689> dam i spelled from wrong twice
[01:34] <phobiac> dawn: If it's a drive that no longer needs to be mounted it *should* be safe to delete the folder.
[01:34] <mortici> stupid typos
[01:34] <dawn> I know, thats what I have been trying to do
[01:34] <dawn> the OS wont give me the option, I have yet to try the CL
[01:34] <phobiac> You might need root power to do it.
[01:35] <beg1689> so... what is actually required to have sound? because from my little knowledge of linux i dont see why it is working right now
[01:35] <beg1689> it used to work only if i started esd or artsd, now it works without them, didnt change a thing
[01:35] <phobiac> IF you want to use konq do kdesu konqueror /thedirectory
[01:35] <phobiac> IF you want to use konq do kdesu konqueror /media
[01:35] <dddude55> if i install firefox from adept is that all i need to do?
[01:35] <dawn> !konq
[01:35] <phobiac> Then just delete the folder
[01:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konq - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:35] <mortici> ok konq officially sucks as a web browser
[01:35] <phobiac> Konq is konqueror
[01:35] <dawn> use firefox!
[01:35] <dawn> oh
[01:35] <beg1689> firefox
[01:36] <beg1689> or theres always opera
[01:36] <dawn> <----duh
[01:36] <mortici> swiftfox it is
[01:36] <dawn> use IE
[01:36] <dawn> heh
[01:36] <beg1689> i have IE just for those really picky sites that dont let me use firefox or opera
[01:36] <dawn> I have IE installed on this PC
[01:36] <dddude55> use no
[01:36] <LjL> the only web browser that correctly rendered acid2? yeah, sure
[01:36] <wieniu> use the Source Luke :)
[01:36] <dawn> yep
[01:36] <beg1689> yeah, opera :)
[01:37] <dawn> dell is really pushing vista
[01:37] <beg1689> and for most of those pesky IE only sites, it can pretend to be IE, but doesnt always work (for some reason it still sticks "Opera 9.10" at the end of the ID
[01:37] <dawn> I have been trying to purchase PC's sans vista
[01:37] <dawn> and they wont let me
[01:37] <beg1689> build it
[01:37] <mortici> swiftfoxing it up then
[01:37] <dawn> oh I have netter Idea
[01:37] <dawn> *better
[01:37] <mortici> konq can't even go to yahoo music without messing up
[01:37] <dawn> I will just reimage the drives
[01:37] <mortici> let alone apples trailers web page
[01:37] <phobiac> dawn: Dell has PC's sans the OS
[01:38] <dawn> I know
[01:38] <beg1689> dont buy a PC with an OS you wont use
[01:38] <dawn> but the ppl want XP only
[01:38] <beg1689> it adds $100 to the price
[01:38] <mortici> what about windows vista
[01:38] <dawn> I prefer to get XP and refuse the EULA
[01:38] <dawn> its actually cheaper
[01:38] <dawn> the open OS machines cost $100 more
[01:38] <beg1689> i have an awesome XP cd, my friend got it and it works great
[01:39] <dawn> I have a bunch of hacked images of XP
[01:39] <beg1689> no activation, and windows updates works and validation works and everything
[01:39] <dawn> yea
[01:39] <phobiac> They cost more? That's ridiculous
[01:39] <mortici> beg1689: its called a corporate edition of xp
[01:39] <beg1689> i dont think its hacked, i think its a special cd key thats actually doing it
[01:39] <dawn> check out dell site
[01:39] <beg1689> yea thats it
[01:39] <beg1689> not that i use it
[01:39] <mortici> like the enterprise edition of vista that i have :P
[01:40] <beg1689> i dont think ill ever go back
[01:40] <dawn> neitehr will I
[01:40] <mortici> my laptop is primary linux
[01:40] <beg1689> and after using e17 all this time :)
[01:40] <dawn> I have seen the light
[01:40] <beg1689> same here
[01:40] <mortici> desktop dual boots
[01:40] <beg1689> my laptop actually dual boots
[01:40] <beg1689> 100gb linux, 20gb windows
[01:40] <phobiac> My desktop dual boots. I've got Linux and XP.
[01:40] <dawn> I just swap ata-6 drives
[01:41] <phobiac> I actually think XP is a halfway decent OS. Not Linux those.
[01:41] <dawn> XP isnt bad
[01:41] <phobiac> ..It's not Linux though*
[01:41] <rbs-tito> How can I kill my X server to install the NVidia driver
[01:41] <beg1689> and no e17
[01:41] <beg1689> ctrl+alt+f1
[01:41] <dawn> win200 0/win2003 are not OS's
[01:41] <phobiac> I thought it was ctrl+alt+backspace
[01:41] <dawn> ummm I meant
[01:41] <phobiac> No wait that restarts it.
[01:41] <beg1689> that restarts it
[01:41] <dawn> not BAD OS's
[01:41] <beg1689> he wants a terminal im assuming
[01:41] <dawn> lol
[01:42] <phobiac> Yeah
[01:42] <dddude55> umm when i tell flash where firefox is installed it says to put in a valid dest path
[01:42] <rbs-tito> I tried ctrl + alt  + f2 but the nvidia script says X is open
[01:42] <mortici> wth freaking hell
[01:42] <dddude55> wtf is up with that
[01:42] <beg1689> oh
[01:42] <beg1689> you have to kill x
[01:42] <rbs-tito> In gnome I used to do /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm stop
[01:42] <mortici> why is the text in firefox so damn small, all the web pages have tiny text
[01:42] <dawn> kill!
[01:42] <dawn> !kill
[01:42] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[01:42] <rbs-tito> Whatis the command?
[01:42] <beg1689> i dont know.. i just used the repo drivers
[01:43] <beg1689> in fedora it was init 3
[01:43] <phobiac> mortici: Do ctrl + +
[01:43] <rbs-tito> All the Ubuntu runlevels are the same
[01:43] <dawn> rl 5?
[01:43] <beg1689> when i did my drivers in fc6 i just "init 3" to kill then "init 5" to start it back up
[01:43] <dawn> fedora 6 looks like  decent OS as well
[01:43] <beg1689> in ubuntu i just used the repo
[01:44] <beg1689> it is
[01:44] <rbs-tito> the repo doesn't have the built in AIGLX though
[01:44] <beg1689> excellent 64 bit support too
[01:44] <dawn> hmmmm
[01:44] <beg1689> what?
[01:44] <dawn> I have a large box that needs a OS
[01:44] <dawn> I was thinking win2003
[01:44] <beg1689> you mean for beryl? because i use the repo driver for beryl
[01:44] <dawn> drat the MB dont support 64-bit
[01:45] <beg1689> although since i got e17 i havent touched beryl
[01:45] <dawn> !e17
[01:45] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[01:45] <beg1689> they say pre-alpha but it works amazingly
[01:45] <beg1689> only bad thing i noticed was the lack of some configuration options, but that can still be changed by editing some files
[01:46] <beg1689> oh andi wanted to say, fc6 x86-64 has excellent 32 bit support
[01:46] <beg1689> i installed a ton of software that was said to have problems on 64 bit, and they worked fine
[01:46] <dawn> hmmmm
[01:47] <beg1689> the only thing that didnt work was wine, so i stopped using 64 bit
[01:47] <dawn> i will have to play with fedora
[01:47] <beg1689> cant leave my games
[01:47] <dawn> haha
[01:47] <dawn> what games have you been able to run under wine?
[01:47] <beg1689> warcraft III, half life 1 and 2
[01:47] <beg1689> (and all mods, of course)
[01:47] <dawn> oh damn
[01:47] <beg1689> world of warcraft
[01:47] <dawn> I would love to try HL 1/2 on kubuntu
[01:47] <beg1689> works good
[01:47] <dawn> any steam application as well
[01:48] <dawn> I have to give it a whirl
[01:48] <beg1689> well i only tested the half life engines
[01:48] <dawn> oh
[01:48] <beg1689> oh and roboblitz (unreal 3?)
[01:48] <dawn> well HL 1/2 are fine
[01:48] <beg1689> but that doesnt work
[01:48] <dawn> hmmmm, i heard that doom3 is supported
[01:48] <beg1689> basicall i just have wine for steam and warcraft
[01:48] <beg1689> doesnt doom 3 hav linux native support?
[01:48] <beg1689> same for quake 4
[01:48] <dawn> I think so
[01:49] <beg1689> so dont need wine for that
[01:49] <dawn> I have yet to play with that arrangment
[01:49] <beg1689> and unreal tournament 2004 i have linux native
[01:49] <beg1689> neverwinter nights
[01:49] <dawn> well im out cyas time for dinner
[01:49] <dawn> thx
[01:49] <beg1689> neverball is fun, i have my wiimote setup just for that game
[01:50] <beg1689> dam IRC, i forgot what i was doing
[01:50] <beg1689> i opened a terminal window, opened irc, now i have a blank terminal and i forgot why
[01:51] <mortici> omg im angry
[01:51] <beg1689> oh and if you ever want a laptop, i reccomend cheaping out on the memory and the hard drive
[01:51] <phobiac> mortici: What's wrong?
[01:51] <beg1689> it was cheaper to get a 120g hard drive than it was to upgrade to the 80g
[01:51] <mortici> firefox
[01:51] <beg1689> and now i still have my old one in an enclosure
[01:51] <mortici> the menu text is bigger then normal
[01:51] <mortici> and the web pages have text that is set to 9pt
[01:52] <mortici> no matter what settings i change in firefox
[01:52] <mortici> it does nothing
[01:52] <mortici> is there a settings file i can delete?
[01:52] <phobiac> I've no idea what to do for the menu text but doing ctrl + + makes text bigger.
[01:52] <mortici> yes
[01:52] <beg1689> one of my favorite things in e17 is the app launcher
[01:52] <mortici> but i never had to do that before
[01:52] <phobiac> It should just save like that.
[01:52] <beg1689> if you guys havent tried it you should, its in the repos
[01:53] <mortici> it doesn't :/
[01:53] <phobiac> That's odd.
[01:54] <mortici> i know
[01:54] <mortici> this all happend after i rebooted a machine
[01:54] <mortici> and afaik i didn't do any system wide upgrade
[01:54] <beg1689> so... do you actually need a sound daemon to get sound?
[01:55] <indygo> How can I change my status to superuser?
[01:55] <beg1689> from terminal?
[01:55] <beg1689> sudo <command>
[01:55] <beg1689> or sudo -i to switch
[01:56] <indygo> thanks :)
[02:03] <phobiac> In the terminal how do you install all the build dependencies for a package?
[02:04] <LjL> phobiac: sudo apt-get build-dep package
[02:04] <phobiac> Thanks
[02:04] <dddude55> god dang it lol
[02:04] <dddude55> this damn card is giving me a headache
[02:04] <dddude55> its supposed to be auto detected
[02:04] <dddude55> and it wasnt in live cd or expert install...
[02:05] <dddude55> my touchpad left clicked in live cd but now it onl right clicks
[02:10] <alex777> I'm having some trouble with a sata hdd
[02:10] <alex777> I just installed it and my bios sees the hdd, but kubuntu doesn't
[02:10] <alex777> I have an intel D865GLC motherboard, a WD hdd which I used one of those PATA->SATA devices
[02:11] <alex777> connected to my sata0 port
[02:11] <alex777> and I can't even see it in fdisk
[02:13] <NightBird> how do I redirect error output?
[02:13] <Sanne> alex777: it is possible that the linux kernel has no drivers for your sata controller. I recommend finding out the controller you use and investigate the linux support for it.
[02:14] <alex777> hm, it should be on the intel website which controller it uses right ?
[02:15] <Sanne> alex777: yeah, or in the documentation that came with your mb. But let us try something quick, sec.
[02:15] <Sanne> alex777: do youhave any output from: lspci | grep -i sata
[02:16] <alex777> actually yes
[02:16] <alex777> 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801EB (ICH5) SATA Controller (rev 02)
[02:16] <Sanne> alex777: so something got recognized. Hmmm.
[02:16] <alex777> yea
[02:16] <alex777> it's not showing up in fdisk -l
[02:17] <alex777> as you figured I'm not an expert so I don't know where to go from here
[02:17] <Sanne> alex777: let's find out if a driver got loaded: lsmod | grep -i sata
[02:17] <alex777> nothing
[02:19] <Sanne> alex777: try to go through all loaded modules and see if you find anything that looks like a driver for your sata controller (any key to scroll the list): lsmod | more
[02:19] <Bxnp> guys i am looking for a way to do invert selections
[02:19] <Bxnp> in kmail
[02:19] <jmichaelx> !beryl
[02:19] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[02:20] <alex777> Sanne nothing that would like like any sataa module
[02:21] <alex777> libata, ide_disk etc
[02:22] <Sanne> alex777: ok, so the next step would be to search the net, ubuntuforums, phoronix.com (linux hardware site) to find out if there's a kernel module for your comtroller, and what it's name is, and load it manually. Or, find out that there's none (and weep...)
[02:22] <alex777> Intel Corporation 82801EB (ICH5) is my sata controller right ?
[02:23] <alex777> bbl
[02:23] <Sanne> alex777: yes, I would try to search for that or fro substrings of that, and linux, ubuntu, driver, that sort of stuff.
[02:24] <Sanne> alex777: but also look in your mb manual and on the intel website.
[02:27] <Minataku> !mame
[02:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mame - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:27] <Minataku> That's something better self-compiled anyway
[02:32] <LjL> !xmame-x
[02:32] <ubotu> xmame-x: X binaries for the Multiple Arcade Machine Emulator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.106-1 (edgy), package size 10241 kB, installed size 37724 kB
[02:34] <xenophile7x7> ok, noob question. i just installed firefox on kubuntu. how can i create a shortcut in the K-Menu?
[02:35] <Minataku> LjL: XMAME is pretty much dead in the water
[02:36] <Minataku> You should shift to SDLMAME
[02:36] <Minataku> Want the info on it? Or point me to where I would send such?
[02:37] <Sanne> xenophile7x7: you can right click anywhere on the opened menu and choose "edit menu", there you can create an entry where you want to.
[02:37] <phobiac> Okay uh, when I try to login my screen turns black, the cursor shows up, then I get bumped back to the login screen.
[02:38] <phobiac> Help. Please. :(
[02:38] <Minataku> Check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:38] <dawn> how does one find out which kde they are using?
[02:39] <phobiac> It opens, what do I do with it?
[02:39] <dawn> !kde
[02:39] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[02:39] <Sanne> dawn: in any kde application, go to  help/about kde.
[02:40] <dawn> thx
[02:40] <dawn> ok I have 3.5.5
[02:40] <dawn> :)
[02:40] <Sanne> :)
[02:40] <Minataku> phobiac: Read it
[02:40] <Minataku> Look around the end
[02:40] <phobiac> What am I looking for?
[02:40] <Minataku> Whatever's making X crap out should be around there
[02:41] <Minataku> phobiac: An error, look for X11's complaining, if it looks scary and confusing that's probably it
[02:41] <jbruckman> who is familiar with the various torrent clients?
[02:41] <Minataku> If you can't tell, pastebin the last so many lines and I'll take a look for you
[02:41] <phobiac> There's a lot of errors at the end of this.
[02:41] <Minataku> jbruckman: I only have my recommendation of BitTornado
[02:42] <phobiac> Wait, let me type one into here.
[02:42] <phobiac> (EE) xf6Openserial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom
[02:42] <phobiac> No such file or directory
[02:42] <jbruckman> Minataku: the reason i ask is that I've gotten one to work, and another one won't using what appear to be the same settings. I'm behind a school network, so encyrption works on Ktorrent(which i don't like) and not on a wine'd utorrent(which i like), and i can't figure out how to encrypt with rtorrent(command line torrent client).
[02:43] <jbruckman> i despise the way ktorrent handles everything
[02:43] <Minataku> phobiac: Hm... what the crap is it with that /dev/wacom
[02:43] <Sanne> phobiac: the wacom entries don't matter, they are for a tablet device that's not present, I got those errors too.
[02:43] <jbruckman> and would like other clients to work...
[02:43] <jbruckman> afk
[02:43] <Minataku> Sanne: It's not making X puke and die?
[02:44] <Sanne> Minataku: no, it shouldn't. I guess it's put in by default so people can use it out of the box if present. I would look for video card errors.
[02:44] <phobiac> Okay. Right at the end it says "Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/TTF, removing from list
[02:44] <Minataku> phobiac: That's probably not it either
[02:45] <phobiac> Then it says that two more times, only the directory ends with OTF and ICD
[02:45] <Jucato> welcome back Minataku
[02:45] <Minataku> Wow, Kubuntu out of the box has some stupid X11 errors, doesn't it?
[02:45] <Minataku> Jucato: Thanks
[02:45] <Sanne> phobiac: best would be you paste the whole thing to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:45] <Jucato> Minataku: what stupid errors?
[02:45] <phobiac> I can't paste into pastebin :(
[02:45] <manchicken> Jucato: Whuddup my fellow kubuntuer?
[02:45] <Minataku> You'll notice I said "what the crap" rather than any other more vulgar words
[02:45] <Jucato> manchicken: hellow :)
[02:45] <Jucato> manchicken: got my cloak already :)
[02:46] <Minataku> Jucato: Well, it seems that default installations have X11 looking for various things that don't exist by default
[02:46] <phobiac> I can't log in, I'm full CLI right now.
[02:46] <Jucato> Minataku: ah yes, the wacom stuff.
[02:46] <Minataku> Which puts a load of bogus errors into /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:46] <phobiac> Could it be the "Synaptics DeviceOff called" at the end?
[02:46] <Minataku> Jucato: Also the missing font path elements
[02:46] <phobiac> Synaptic is my mousepad.
[02:46] <jbruckman> back
[02:46] <Jucato> Minataku: not sure if that's just a Kubuntu thing or an Xorg 7.x thing. anyway that was put in there for compatibility with pointing devices
[02:47] <Minataku> TTF OTF and ICD seem to be looked for but not installed by default
[02:47] <Minataku> Jucato: Gentoo and Debian had issues with incomplete X11R7 dependencies too
[02:47] <Minataku> It was a pretty radical change, after all
[02:48] <Sanne> phobiac: can you open /etc/X11/xorg.conf what video driver is in there in section "Device"?
[02:48] <phobiac> I already know, fglrx.
[02:49] <ubuntu> je tu nekdo kdo umi cesky?
[02:49] <Sanne> phobiac: and did it work before, or might this be a problem?
[02:49] <phobiac> It was working fine before. The sections I saw in the log that mentioned fglrx didn't have any erros.
[02:50] <phobiac> errors*
[02:50] <Sanne> phobiac: ok, then it's not that. Back to error hunting in the log then ;)
[02:52] <phobiac> How do I reconfigure X? I've done it before and it's solved a problem I had in the past.
[02:52] <Sanne> phobiac: i believe it's: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:53] <phobiac> Thank you
[02:53] <ubuntu> hi i need help: how i can set in command line: gateway and dns?
[02:54] <the_hammer> has anyone here done upgrade to their kernals
[02:54] <phobiac> How do I stop X?
[02:55] <the_hammer> trying to install this kernal here 2.6.20-rc6-mm3
[02:55] <Sanne> phobiac: you can kill it with ctrl-alt-backspace
[02:55] <the_hammer> anyone here ever done that kind of installing to kubuntu?
[02:56] <phobiac> That restarts it.
[02:56] <phobiac> I want to kill it so that I can reconfigure, I don't think the changes saved.
[02:56] <ubuntu> ps -A + kill kdm
[02:56] <beg1689> what do you need the new kernel for?
[02:56] <phobiac> ubuntu: That will kill x?
[02:57] <the_hammer> just to try it
[02:57] <ubuntu> phobiac: ps -A and find number of kdm and kill "kdm number"
[02:57] <the_hammer> learn new things :)
[02:58] <Sanne> phobiac: or (i think): sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[02:58] <the_hammer> i have a kernel walk through on a web page but im stuck at part of it
[02:58] <ubuntu> je tu nekdo kdo mluvi cesky prosim?
[02:59] <manchicken> Your cloak?
[02:59] <the_hammer> so i take it no one here can help me with installing a more updated kernel?
[03:00] <the_hammer> kubuntu 610?
[03:00] <ubuntu> PS: in new kubuntu 6.10 is possible show cursor? i have now KDE 3.5(run from live cd)?
[03:00] <Sanne> the_hammer: hmmm, you mean from the repositories?
[03:00] <the_hammer> nope i d/l one from the net
[03:00] <the_hammer> 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 <--this 1
[03:01] <Sanne> the_hammer: if you want to compile yourself, I wouldn't know, never done it myself, sorry.
[03:01] <xenophile7x7> Sanne: I just got your reply from earlier, thank you
[03:02] <the_hammer> is it possible to get a newer kernel from the synaptic then?
[03:02] <Sanne> xenophile7x7: I forgot what I said, but you're welcome :)
[03:02] <the_hammer> never thought of even trying till ya asked me about the repositories
[03:02] <the_hammer> Sanne?
[03:03] <Sanne> the_hammer: yes?
[03:03] <xenophile7x7> shortcut for firefox.
[03:03] <the_hammer> see my qustion?
[03:03] <Sanne> xenophile7x7: ah! Did it work?
[03:03] <the_hammer> is it possible to get a newer kernel from the synaptic then?
[03:03] <xenophile7x7> kinda blond of me, i should have thought to try it, but it worked fine
[03:04] <phobiac> this is ridiculous, what is wrong with my computer
[03:04] <yamathan> Oh dear.  :s
[03:04] <phobiac> reconfiguring X did nothing
[03:04] <Sanne> the_hammer: ah, sorry... I doubt you can get a new version, but they do updates from time to time, bug fixes and stuff.
[03:04] <yamathan> Why is xorg spazzing about FreeX86-DRI or whatnot?
[03:04] <phobiac> yamathan: your video card is ATI?
[03:04] <the_hammer> ok
[03:04] <cpk1> phobiac: whats your problem?
[03:05] <Sanne> phobiac: I did a quick search and there were people with a suddenly not starting X who resolved it by (gasp) rebooting... tried that?
[03:05] <phobiac> cpk1: i try to log in, the monitor goes black, the mouse shows up, then I get kicked back to the login.
[03:06] <phobiac> Sanne: rebooting seems to be what *caused* the problem. everything worked fine until i rebooted. but yes, ive rebooted three times now.
[03:06] <cpk1> so then X does work
[03:06] <Sanne> xenophile7x7: glad to heat that (and don't be too hard on yourself for not trying it out, there's so much to learn in Linux)
[03:06] <phobiac> cpk1: yeah, i dont know what it is though
[03:06] <jbruckman> phobiac: actually, rebooting probably didn't cause your problem. usually with linux you break something that you've already loaded, reboot, and when it goes to get loaded on the fresh boot, you broke it last time...
[03:07] <jbruckman> phobiac: just an fyi.
[03:07] <phobiac> ah, okay. thanks
[03:07] <jbruckman> phobiac: so what were you doing before you rebooted?
[03:07] <firecrotch> Anyone know of a decent dock (OSX style) that will work in Edgy? All of the ones I download don't work right
[03:07] <xenophile7x7> sanne: lol, yeah, ive found linux to be extremely easy, although i need some resources on networking.  lol, hardest part for me is breaking the microsoft habits
[03:08] <Sanne> xenophile7x7: yeah, that can be hard, those habits. Took me 3 months back then.
[03:08] <phobiac> attempting to build firefox from source. i ended up getting an error while it was making and didnt see what the issue was right away so i just gave up. it wasnt that important to me.
[03:08] <jbruckman> phobiac: was there anything else you were doing?
[03:08] <jbruckman> phobiac: like the day before, or anything?
[03:09] <phobiac> listening to music
[03:09] <phobiac> nothing that could have broken it. unless updating beryl did.
[03:09] <jbruckman> phobiac: basically, i'm just trying to see what you did since the last working reboot.
[03:09] <jbruckman> phobiac: omg
[03:09] <jbruckman> phobiac: you're using beryl?
[03:09] <phobiac> no, not often.
[03:09] <phobiac> i set it up just to see if i even could. i use it on occasion.
[03:10] <jbruckman> phobiac: either way, you've probably also got opengl set up too
[03:10] <Sanne> xenophile7x7: Generally I highly recommend the kubuntu starter guide (k menu/help) and the ubuntu wiki (in case you didn't see those). Those helped me lots when I needed to know how to do stuff.
[03:10] <phobiac> yes, opengl is set up.
[03:10] <phobiac> afaik
[03:10] <jbruckman> phobiac: k
[03:11] <jbruckman> phobiac: when i tried using beryl, it worked fine, and then one day, i tried changing something, and boom. opengl broke my x configuration, and nothing would work. I had to completely undo the installation in order to fix it.
[03:11] <jbruckman> phobiac: of course, this was NOT fun... you could try reinstalling x from scratch after purgin beryl and opengl
[03:11] <phobiac> Hmm wait
[03:11] <jbruckman> phobiac: but this sort of thing is risky...
[03:12] <cpk1> its sounds like X is working though
[03:12] <phobiac> If I got to another session and startx, I get this
[03:12] <phobiac> Fatal server error:
[03:12] <phobiac> Server is already active for display 0:
[03:12] <jbruckman> yeah, xserver is broken.
[03:12] <phobiac> Minus the :
[03:13] <jbruckman> when you're at the login
[03:13] <jbruckman> did you set it up so you could still boot into X without opengl?
[03:13] <phobiac> Then it says that if the server isn't active remove /tmp/.X0-lock
[03:13] <cpk1> phobiac: it is active though if you dont stop kdm
[03:14] <phobiac> jbruckman: I set it up so Xgl (Is that opengl?) starts seperatly. I have a whole different session set up for that.
[03:14] <jbruckman> yeah, xgl is what i've been meaning. it's just opengl for X.
[03:14] <jbruckman> which session are you trying to log into when your original probelm is happening?
[03:15] <phobiac> All of them. It happens on them all.
[03:15] <phobiac> Failsafe, KDE, Xgl (The one with Xgl running)
[03:15] <jbruckman> your xserver is broken then. can you revert your xorg.conf file to a previous state?
[03:15] <phobiac> Even blackbox.
[03:15] <Candamir> Hi! I'm updating from breezy to dapper using the command-line version. I already edited the sources file, but the last step works by using sudo and didn't work out with my computer... the line is 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' which is the kde version for this line? thx
[03:16] <phobiac> I've already reconfigured my xorg.conf a few times now to try to fix the problem. At least I think that's what sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg does.
[03:16] <the_hammer> hey why is when i wanna start a new session and i try to log on as root and my password it rejests me and not let me log into root like that?
[03:16] <yamathan> Oh, might I ask why XFree86-DRI is screwing with my sessions and/or crashing them?
[03:17] <jbruckman> phobiac: did you make a back-up of the file when you installed beryl?
[03:17] <phobiac> Candamir: Just do the lines seperatly. sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:17] <the_hammer> anyone?
[03:17] <the_hammer> hey why is when i wanna start a new session and i try to log on as root and my password it rejests me and not let me log into root like that?
[03:17] <jbruckman> the_hammer: you can't log into root on ubuntu.
[03:17] <phobiac> jbruckman: No. This was a long time ago that I installed beryl.
[03:17] <Sanne> the_hammer: here's info on that: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[03:17] <Candamir> phobiac: and will it work with kubuntu?
[03:17] <jbruckman> phobiac: too bad. that probably could have fixed it...
[03:17] <phobiac> Candamir: Yes.
[03:18] <ceritus> is there anyway to get kaffeine to play *.mov files?
[03:18] <ceritus> and *.mp4?
[03:18] <phobiac> jbruckman: I don't know. The problem happened just now, and I installed beryl over 2-3 months ago.
[03:18] <jbruckman> phobiac: well, you could try doing a mass overhaul of your xserver from the commandline... basically remove xgl, beryl, and all beryl components, stop anything using xserver, and then remove that too, and reinstall it.. then dpkg configure it...
[03:18] <XenThraL> Hi, how do I make shortcuts in kubuntu, specifically for folders?
[03:19] <phobiac> Besides, reconfiguring xorg back to previous settings (the only thing changed was the ATI driver) did not help.
[03:19] <jbruckman> phobiac: but that's going to basically make your life very very difficult.
[03:19] <ceritus> is there anyway to get kaffeine to play *.mov and *.mp4 files?
[03:19] <phobiac> ceritus: You probably don't have the right codecs install.
[03:19] <jbruckman> ceritus: have you checked kaffeine's page?
[03:19] <Candamir> phobiac: Thanks for the advice, but still, the same happens => nothing. Do you know what this could be about?
[03:20] <phobiac> Candamir: Are you connected to the internet when running them?
[03:20] <jbruckman> lol
[03:20] <ceritus> yeah, it does seem that i have all the codecs needed but still nada.
[03:20] <firecrotch> XenThraL: Right click where you want to add it, then choose "Create new -> Link to location"
[03:20] <XenThraL> oh so it is link to location
[03:20] <firecrotch> Yep
[03:20] <jbruckman> ceritus: sorry, cant help ya buddy.
[03:21] <ceritus> thanks anyway
[03:21] <vbgunz> vlc 0.8.6 doesn't have a qt interface?
[03:21] <phobiac> What does "Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key" mean?
[03:21] <Candamir> phobiac: yeah, lol. Nothing happens at all, and it doesn't seem the cpu is actually working... :-(
[03:21] <jbruckman> phobiac: no idea..
[03:21] <jbruckman> phobiac: anyway, i've gotta run. good luck man!
[03:21] <XenThraL> uh it gives me a <foldername>.desktop file
[03:22] <XenThraL> I want a shortcut like the examples folder that comes by default in the home directory
[03:23] <phobiac> Candamir: I don't know how to help you. Are you typing in the password when it prompts for one?
[03:23] <firecrotch> XenThraL: That is the shortcut
[03:23] <XenThraL> but it doesnt appear like a folder
[03:24] <firecrotch> XenThraL: right click and it will let you change the icon for it
[03:24] <XenThraL> (and hence doesnt show up on the left side, on the 'home folder' tab)
[03:24] <Candamir> phobiac: it doesn't even ask me for the password. I just type alt+f2 and enter the command, the command window disappears and that's the end. Could I use kdesu and a different command instead of sudo
[03:24] <XenThraL> even if I do that, that won't change the behavior
[03:25] <phobiac> Candamir: Open up a konsole and do it.
[03:25] <firecrotch> XenThraL:  Weird... whenever I use "Link to location" it works just fine
[03:27] <Candamir> phobiac: It's working now. Thank you very much!
[03:28] <phobiac> Yw
[03:29] <lwells> hii all
[03:29] <lwells> running parallels in OS X very nice
[03:30] <kubuntu> hello
[03:30] <jason10> hi there
[03:30] <lwells> can have kubuntu withong a new machine
[03:30] <kubuntu> I-m using Kubuntu 6.06, I-m trying to upgrade to edgy
[03:30] <kubuntu> via vmware
[03:30] <kubuntu> is it possible
[03:31] <kubuntu> _
[03:31] <kubuntu> It tells me E could not find
[03:31] <Jucato> kubuntu: Kubuntu is running inside vmware?
[03:31] <kubuntu> yeah
[03:31] <NightBird> sweet... I just managed to get beryl up and working on kubuntu
[03:31] <Jucato> kubuntu: you need to have 1) and internet connection and 2) the proper repositories
[03:32] <kubuntu> I have all
[03:32] <sweq> hi, why wouldn't my laptop boot on kubuntu if I'm on the battery?
[03:32] <Jucato> kubuntu: first setup your internet connection *in VMWare*
[03:32] <sweq> it hangs at the fsck thing
[03:32] <Jucato> then follow this guide
[03:32] <Jucato> !upgrade | kubuntu
[03:32] <ubotu> kubuntu: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[03:33] <kubuntu> udo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop python-qt3 python-kde3 ubuntu-minimal
[03:33] <kubuntu> this gives me error
[03:33] <kubuntu> I-ve download all
[03:33] <Jucato> what's the error?
[03:34] <kubuntu> ah...ok the error was E>could not find kubuntu
[03:34] <kubuntu> but now it seems work
[03:35] <kubuntu> I-ve restarted kubuntu
[03:35] <kubuntu> and wrote sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop python-qt3 python-kde3 ubuntu-minimal
[03:35] <kubuntu> now has told me
[03:36] <Candamir> does dapper drake for kubuntu have a feature that updrages the distro automatically? (like the update manager in ubuntu)
[03:36] <kubuntu> kubuntu-desktop is already the newest version.
[03:36] <kubuntu> python-qt3 is already the newest version.
[03:36] <kubuntu> so it was a Vmware problem
[03:36] <Jucato> Candamir: Adept Updater, but it kinda doesn't work well for upgrading to edgy
[03:37] <Candamir> lol, well i'll have to figure it out
[03:37] <vn-> hi, why wouldn't my laptop boot on kubuntu if I'm on the battery?
[03:37] <kubuntu> because I need to restart via vmware before wrote that last command
[03:37] <Jucato> !upgrade | Candamir
[03:37] <ubotu> Candamir: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[03:38] <kubuntu> how to install italian language
[03:38] <Jucato> !it | kubuntu
[03:38] <ubotu> kubuntu: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:38] <Candamir> Jucato: thanks
[03:38] <Jucato> might want to ask the guys over there
[03:38] <Candamir> ubotu: thanks
[03:38] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[03:38] <Jucato> :)
[03:39] <kubuntu> I don-t remind what app I must lunch
[03:39] <kubuntu> to install italian language
[03:40] <Jucato> kubuntu: ask the guys in the -it channels. they would probably know
[03:40] <kubuntu> thanks
[03:41] <Bxnp> how can i register a channel
[03:41] <Jucato> Bxnp: http://www.freenode.org
[03:41] <kkerwin> Hi. Having a small difficulty. I used dvd::rip to rip a DVD into an mpeg, but the audio track was separated into a different file. Is there anyway that I can combine the two into one file?
[03:42] <gabrieldain> Bxnp, /msg chanserv help
[03:43] <vn-> how can I know what video driver is actually loaded?
[03:47] <phobiac> I've got a huge issue with X
[03:47] <vn-> how huge?
[03:47] <phobiac> It won't start. I log in and then I'm forced back out.
[03:48] <phobiac> Huge enough that reconfiguring xorg and the last hour of attmepted help from people in this chatroom haven't fixed it.
[03:48] <phobiac> So, is there anyway to completely rebuild xorg?
[03:49] <elyon225> How would I go about executing some script when a user "Ends Current Session" that would end the current session AND start a new one at the login screen?
[03:49] <DaSkreech> You can purge it and reinstall if you like
[03:49] <phobiac> How would I go about doing that?
[03:50] <phobiac> I mean, what's the package/packages name/s?
[03:52] <manchicken> !paste
[03:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:52] <phobiac> DaSkreech: How would I do that?
[03:53] <DaSkreech> sudo apt-get purge xserver-xorg && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[03:53] <phobiac> Thank you
[03:53] <DaSkreech> phobiac: sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg --purge && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[03:56] <phobiac> I still get the error
[03:57] <phobiac> "Fatal server error: Server is already active for display 0. If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock and start again."
[03:58] <DaSkreech> What error?
[03:58] <phobiac> Then it says, "Xli: connection to ":0.0" refused by server. Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key. giving up. xinit: unable to connect to X server xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error."
[03:59] <phobiac> Xli=Xlib
[03:59] <DaSkreech> What did you do>
[03:59] <phobiac> DaSkreech: The "Fatal server error"
[03:59] <phobiac> startx
[03:59] <phobiac> After just removing and reinstalling it.
[04:00] <DaSkreech> No I mean when it all started
[04:00] <cpk1> he has beryl
[04:00] <phobiac> I had been attmepting to build firefox from source with apt-build.
[04:00] <phobiac> It errored out, I gave up because it wasn't that important to me, and I restarted.
[04:01] <cpk1> trust me apt-build did not cause this
[04:01] <phobiac> Now when I log in I get knocked back to the login screen.
[04:01] <phobiac> I doubt it did too.
[04:02] <phobiac> I also updated, but did not start, beryl.
[04:02] <phobiac> I'm starting to think that caused this. :(
[04:02] <DaSkreech> phobiac: sounds like your beryl script or more likely KDE broke
[04:02] <DaSkreech> I think with beryl broken KDE should start
[04:02] <DaSkreech>  You couldn't do anything
[04:02] <hammer2> hey where do i find grub i need to edit the heck out os it
[04:03] <phobiac> The same things happen on every session I try to log into. Blackox, KDE, XGL(Kde with Xgl running, for beryl), even Failsafe.
[04:03] <hammer2> someone tell me?
[04:03] <phobiac> !grub
[04:03] <hammer2> i dunno where grub is but i need to edit it
[04:03] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:04] <phobiac> See if that helps.
[04:04] <phobiac> DaSkreech: Any ideas?
[04:04] <phobiac> I purged beryl just to be sure, still nothing.
[04:05] <DaSkreech> hammer2: read the link
[04:05] <DaSkreech> phobiac: can you run X?
[04:05] <phobiac> DaSkreech? You mean do startx?
[04:05] <hammer2> says i need live cd
[04:05] <hammer2> :(
[04:05] <hammer2> this is why i want grub
[04:05] <hammer2> Setting up linux-kbuild-2.6.20 (2.6.20~rc6-1~experimental.1~snapshot.8221) ..
[04:05] <DaSkreech> phobiac: No I mean X
[04:06] <hammer2> i rebooted and it didnt change
[04:12] <phobiac> Now I've got a black and white wallpaper and an X mouse.
[04:12] <phobiac> And the screen flickers.
[04:12] <DaSkreech> hammer2: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:12] <DaSkreech> phobiac: So X works
[04:12] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[04:12] <phobiac> DaSkreech: How do I make it stop doing that though?
[04:12] <DaSkreech> I fixed this type of thing before but it really depends on how much paitence you have
[04:12] <DaSkreech> phobiac: Flickering?
[04:12] <phobiac> No, X. I want to go back to the CLI
[04:12] <phobiac> Oh wait nvm
[04:12] <phobiac> And yeah the monitor was flickering
[04:12] <phobiac> Oh, wait
[04:12] <phobiac> Something has changed, doing startx gives me a different error.
[04:12] <phobiac> Hmm, well I've restarted. I'm going to see what happens.
[04:12] <phobiac> Same thing
[04:12] <phobiac> Does X have an error log I could look through?
[04:12] <phobiac> Aww crap, nvm.
[04:12] <phobiac> I'm getting the same arror as before.
[04:12] <phobiac> Back to square 1.
[04:13] <elyon225> How would I go about executing some script when a user "Ends Current Session" that would end the current session AND start a new one at the login screen?
[04:13] <phobiac> Aha, removing that Lock thing in /tmp makes it change.
[04:14] <hammer2> ok heres my pastebin
[04:14] <vn-> where can I set commands to run on Xorg startup?
[04:14] <hammer2> http://pastebin.ca/336574
[04:14] <Jucato> elyon225: I think making a ~/.kde/shutdown folder and putting the script in there not really sure though
[04:15] <DaSkreech> vn /etc/rc[0-6] .d
[04:15] <phobiac> How do I tell how much space is left on a partition?
[04:15] <DaSkreech> du
[04:16] <vn-> yea but say I wanna start beryl-manager..
[04:16] <Jucato> phobiac: df -h or System Settings -> Advanced -> Disk & Filesystems
[04:16] <hammer2>  kernel 2.6.17-10-generic do what do i edit i seen this Setting up linux-kbuild-2.6.20 (2.6.20~rc6-1~experimental.1~snapshot.8221) ..then rebooted
[04:16] <Jucato> vn-: #ubuntu-xgl has some guides for that in their /topic
[04:16] <phobiac> Thanks
[04:17] <hammer2> nayone?
[04:17] <hammer2> Dask?
[04:17] <phobiac> Hmm okay, df -h doesn't tell me how much is left on the partition I'm using.
[04:18] <Jucato> phobiac: it tells you the usage for all mounted partitions...
[04:18] <DaSkreech> vn-: ah then a) ask in #beryl and b) try the startx script
[04:18] <phobiac> Well then maybe that's my issue...hold on.
[04:19] <vn-> kthx
[04:19] <DaSkreech> hammer2: Yes?
[04:19] <hammer2> see my qustions?
[04:19] <hammer2> can ya help walk me through?
[04:19] <phobiac> No. That's not it.
[04:19] <DaSkreech> hammer2: Yeah sorry not really paying attention. What broke?
[04:19] <hammer2>  kernel 2.6.17-10-generic do what do i edit i seen this Setting up linux-kbuild-2.6.20 (2.6.20~rc6-1~experimental.1~snapshot.8221) ..then rebooted
[04:19] <hammer2> http://pastebin.ca/336574
[04:20] <phobiac> Jucato: I need to see how much space is left on my / partition and df -h doesn't tell me.
[04:20] <hammer2> i used apt-get to install linux-kbuild-2.6.20
[04:20] <Jucato> phobiac: use pastebin to show me the output of df -h
[04:20] <phobiac> Jucato: Can't
[04:20] <Jucato> ah no X?
[04:20] <indra> hi..
[04:20] <phobiac> Yup
[04:20] <DaSkreech> Right, Then it should be set as your default
[04:21] <DaSkreech> phobiac: Any otehr computers in the building?
[04:21] <indra> anyone here know how to install "dpkg" package?
[04:21] <hammer2> but when i do uname -a shows the original
[04:21] <BluesKaj> my ktorrent crashed and now it won't reinstall : configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (library qt-mt) not found. Please check your installation!
[04:21] <Jucato> phobiac: it has no line that says "/" under the "Mounted on" column?
[04:21] <phobiac> DaSkreech: The one I'm on.
[04:21] <phobiac> Jucato: No, but apparently / is mounted.
[04:21] <Jucato> !dpkg | indra
[04:21] <ubotu> indra: dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[04:21] <Jucato> er..
[04:22] <Jucato> indra: right-click on the package -> Kubuntu Package Menu -> Install Package
[04:22] <phobiac> Or not. sudo mount / says that it's "already mounted or / busy"
[04:22] <indra> i have installed new embedded linux...but there is no dpkg...no gcc..no make... what can I do?
[04:22] <indra> jucato-- this is not in kubuntu
[04:22] <DaSkreech> indra: What Linux base did you use to install?
[04:22] <Jucato> phobiac: hm.. you know what partition / is on? then do "df -h /dev/partition"
[04:23] <indra> daskreech-- debian
[04:23] <Jucato> indra: um...embedded Linux? then this isn't the place to ask... but normally it's "dpkg -i filename.deb"
[04:23] <DaSkreech> indra: and it has no dpkg ?
[04:23] <phobiac> Is / the same as /dev?
[04:23] <phobiac> Oh wait
[04:23] <indra> yes, no dpkg
[04:23] <DaSkreech> Jucato: indra needs to install dpkg
[04:23] <Jucato> phobiac: for example, if / is installed
[04:23] <indra> sorry jucato
[04:23] <Jucato> phobiac: for example, if / is installed on /dev/hda1, then do "df -h /dev/hda1"
[04:24] <Jucato> DaSkreech: ouch...
[04:24] <Jucato> how hard would that be... :(
[04:24] <DaSkreech> indra: I think that #debian would have more expertise
[04:24] <Jucato> yes... this is #kubuntu....
[04:24] <phobiac> Yeah, it's either hda1 or 2, I thought.
[04:25] <Jucato> phobiac: then do that df -h command
[04:25] <ssmasud> how do I uninstall my TCL which I manually installed through src build...it resides in usr/local/tcl?????
[04:26] <phobiac> It has to be mounted, that's what I'm running kubuntu off of.
[04:26] <indra> kubuntu is debian too... yes, in packages.debian.org, there is an dpkg package...in .deb and in .tar.gz.. how to install it while I have no dpkg, no gcc, no make?
[04:26] <phobiac> But the df -h command doesn't show a / partition.
[04:27] <Jucato> indra: the problem is, we don't have an embedded Kubuntu. such instances needs special Debian knowledge, which probably most of us can't provide...
[04:28] <Jucato> some are regular users too...
[04:28] <DaSkreech> indra: What do you have?
[04:29] <DaSkreech> phobiac: less /etc/fstab
[04:29] <indra> just 468 commands..
[04:29] <ssmasud> how do I uninstall my TCL which I manually installed through src build...it resides in usr/local/tcl???
[04:29] <DaSkreech> Make sure you know which one is /
[04:29] <Jucato> ssmasud: if you haven't deleted the directory where you ran make (or where the Makefile is located), run "make uninstall"
[04:29] <DaSkreech> ssmasud: Do you still have the folder that you did the make; make install in?
[04:29] <Jucato> :P
[04:30] <indra> jucato---ok, I understand..i think just you can help... but thank you for your attention..
[04:30] <ssmasud> DaSkreech.....yes i have that directory
[04:30] <DaSkreech> indra: how did you install
[04:30] <DaSkreech> ssmasud: make uninstall
[04:30] <Jucato> indra: DaSkreech might be able to help you. he seems to know *a lot* :P
[04:30] <Edoilers94> does anyone have a few minutes to spare?   to help with VLC player?
[04:30] <phobiac> Yeah, fstab shows my / partition. df -h doesn't.
[04:30] <DaSkreech> I might not but i can guess :)
[04:31] <indra> DaSkreech-- install package?
[04:31] <indra> DaSkreech-- or install the linux?
[04:31] <DaSkreech> Edoilers94: no to the first question maybe to the second
[04:31] <DaSkreech> indra: the linux
[04:32] <Edoilers94> i have it already installed, but cant seem to get it to play dvd's
[04:32] <phobiac> This sucks. I still don't have X.
[04:32] <DaSkreech> Edoilers94: Did you install libxine-extracodecs ?
[04:32] <indra> I downloaded the image first..and then, just sudo dd if=<imagename> of=/dev/<devicename> bs=512
[04:32] <phobiac> Well, running X works. But logging in or doing startx doesn't.
[04:33] <Edoilers94> dont think so, had a guy from here help install it yesterday
[04:33] <DaSkreech> phobiac: right so X isn't broken it's what X runs
[04:33] <DaSkreech> kdm is working?
[04:33] <phobiac> That's probably what broke. How do I test kdm?
[04:33] <DaSkreech> Edoilers94: do you use adept or the command line?
[04:33] <Edoilers94> the error i get is /media/cdrom0 is a folder, but a file is expected
[04:33] <Edoilers94> <--- very new
[04:34] <yamathan> Okay, XFree86-DRI is giving me Hell.
[04:34] <yamathan> How do I disable it?
[04:34] <Edoilers94> i used terminal to install vlc
[04:34] <indra> DaSkreech-- I downloaded the image first..and then, just sudo dd if=<imagename> of=/dev/<devicename> bs=512
[04:34] <DaSkreech> indra: Woah :)
[04:34] <DaSkreech> what do you want to install?
[04:34] <phobiac> DaSkreech: How do I test if kdm is working?
[04:35] <Jucato> phobiac: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[04:39] <indra> DaSkreech-- of course the dpkg package..i think that's the key to install the other packages
[04:39] <Edoilers94> may i msg you DaSkreech?
[04:39] <DaSkreech> Which other packages?
[04:39] <yamathan> Sorry, my session crashed.
[04:39] <DaSkreech> Edoilers94: Oh sorry :-)
[04:39] <Edoilers94> no worries
[04:39] <DaSkreech> Edoilers94: try sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[04:39] <DaSkreech> I thought i said that to you already
[04:39] <yamathan> Why is XFree86-DRI freaking out?
[04:39] <DaSkreech>  talking to 7 people
[04:39] <indra> DaSkreech-- gcc, make, my Wireless PCI adapter driver, etc
[04:39] <yamathan> More importantly, how can I disable it?
[04:39] <underdog5004> what's the command to view how much space is available on a hard drive?
[04:39] <phobiac> Jucato: That gives me "Starting K Display manager : kdm is already running."
[04:39] <Edoilers94> when i did my upgrades, would that be one of them?
[04:39] <DaSkreech> phobiac: Where is it running/
[04:39] <DaSkreech> underdog5004: df -h
[04:39] <Jucato> phobiac: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[04:39] <underdog5004> thank you
[04:39] <DaSkreech> Edoilers94: Maybe :)
[04:39] <Jucato> phobiac: or try to Ctrl+Alt+F7
[04:39] <DaSkreech> That's what I want to see
[04:39] <Jucato> that's where kdm usually starts
[04:39] <BluesKaj> Ktorrent crashes and won't reinstall after complete removal : configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (library qt-mt) not found. Please check your installation...any ideas ?
[04:39] <Edoilers94> ok, well that didnt seem to work sorry
[04:39] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: What's the crash error?
[04:39] <DaSkreech> Edoilers94: What did it say?
[04:39] <phobiac> DaSkreech: session (Display?) 7. ctrl+alt+F7 brought me to the login screen.
[04:39] <Edoilers94> Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:39] <indra> DaSkreech-- any idea?
[04:39] <phobiac> So did the restart thing
[04:39] <indra> Edoilers94-- dependency problem?
[04:39] <DaSkreech> Edoilers94: ah
[04:39] <DaSkreech> !mp3
[04:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:39] <DaSkreech> Edoilers94: can you read the first link :)
[04:39] <Jucato> phobiac: ctrl+alt+7 is usualy Display :0:0, where X first starts
[04:40] <yamathan> !dri
[04:40] <ubotu> dri is direct rendering infrastructure, a framework for allowing direct access to graphics hardware under the X Window System in a safe and efficient manner.
[04:40] <phobiac> Jucato: Then that's where it is
[04:40] <yamathan> ... Huh.
[04:40] <DaSkreech> indra: I think asking in #debian is a good way to go
[04:40] <Jucato> phobiac: yep
[04:40] <Edoilers94> in the terminal?
[04:40] <yamathan> Hey, guys, not to be stupid, but why is fglrx freaking out re: not finding XFree86-DRI?
[04:40] <DaSkreech> yamathan: take that line out of your xorg.conf
[04:40] <yamathan> All of it?
[04:40] <DaSkreech> yamathan: Ah wait put it in
[04:40] <yamathan> Ah.
[04:40] <yamathan> Okay.
[04:40] <DaSkreech> no it needs DRI
[04:41] <yamathan> Then ... Huh.
[04:41] <yamathan> I wonder why it's panicking.
[04:41] <indra> DaSkreech-- ok..
[04:41] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech, signal 6 SIGABRT
[04:41] <DaSkreech> Woah
[04:41] <phobiac> So what can I do? Is there a way to reconfigure/reinstall/whatever kdm?
[04:41] <indra> DaSkreech-- thanx 4 ur attention
[04:41] <yamathan> To quote -- "Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"."
[04:41] <DaSkreech> indra: If you get an answer and I'm stil awake I'd love to hear what you did
[04:42] <yamathan> But, uh, I thought I had that *installed*
[04:42] <indra> DaSkreech-- OK
[04:42] <DaSkreech> yamathan: check if it's "on" in your xorg.conf
[04:42] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: You did a purge ?
[04:42] <makuseru> what is a good screen capture program for kubuntu
[04:42] <yamathan> Uh ...
[04:43] <yamathan> Would "0666" suffice?
[04:43] <phobiac> Jucato: Do you know what I can do? Can kdm be reconfigured/reinstalled/something?
[04:43] <ssmasud> DaSkreech.....i am doing make uninstall...but its not removing the package....
[04:43] <DaSkreech> yamathan: Lost me
[04:43] <ala> anyone know of a good tutorial that shows you how to convert a running system to raid??
[04:43] <yamathan> DaSkreech: To quote, "
[04:43] <yamathan> Section "DRI"
[04:43] <yamathan> 	Mode	0666
[04:43] <yamathan> EndSection
[04:43] <Jucato> phobiac: you tried logging in? still throwing you back?
[04:43] <yamathan> Oh, sorry for the flood.  :s
[04:43] <BluesKaj> no DaSkreech , i forgotten the purge cmnd :(
[04:43] <Jucato> !pastebing | yamathan
[04:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:43] <Jucato> !pastebin | yamathan
[04:43] <ubotu> yamathan: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:44] <DaSkreech> yamathan: sounds good
[04:44] <Jucato> grr I can't spell...
[04:44] <yamathan> Sorry, Jucato.
[04:44] <Jucato> :)
[04:44] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: sudo apt-get remove ktorrent --purge
[04:44] <phobiac> Jucato: Uhhm, no. It isn't. Now it freezes on a blank screen.
[04:44] <phobiac> I guess this is progress...
[04:44] <Edoilers94> no luck still
[04:45] <makuseru> what is a good screen capture program for kubuntu
[04:45] <Theory> makuseru: press your print screen button
[04:45] <phobiac> Jucato: Thank you for your help though. You too Daskreech.
[04:45] <yamathan> Bizzare.
[04:45] <Jucato> makuseru: KSnapshot
[04:45] <yamathan> It claims there's an fglrx section in xorg.conf ...
[04:45] <Jucato> phobiac: sorry couldn't help more... I'm just... um.. confused...
[04:45] <BluesKaj> yamathan, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-c966b2cb7c82944d6883f27a2896725db3b90a3a
[04:45] <Jucato> right now...
[04:45] <yamathan> Yet I'm looking at it and I have yet to find it!
[04:45] <phobiac> Jucato: I am too :(
[04:45] <yamathan> Thank you, BluesKaj.
[04:45] <makuseru> oops, video screen capture, not a screenshot
[04:46] <BluesKaj> yamathan, it may help
[04:46] <phobiac> makuseru: The only video screen capture I know of is Istanbul and the one beryl has.
[04:47] <Jucato> makuseru: also try screenkast, but it's not in the repositories
[04:47] <makuseru> !Istanbul
[04:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Istanbul - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:47] <makuseru> is that not one in the reops?
[04:47] <makuseru> repos*
[04:47] <phobiac> Jucato: Okay so I restarted kdm again, and now I still have the kickback to login screen issue.
[04:48] <Jucato> hm...
[04:48] <phobiac> It is in the repos
[04:48] <DaSkreech> phobiac: ok so can you find your startkde script/
[04:48] <phobiac> At least it was last I checked.
[04:48] <makuseru> whydosnt ubotu know about it
[04:48] <ssmasud> I want to remove tcl which I installed from a src distribution in /usr/local/tcl.......i am doing "dpkg -r tcl" but its not removing it...."dpkg -l tcl" shows tcl but it says no description..what to do
[04:48] <DaSkreech> !info instanbul
[04:48] <ubotu> Package instanbul does not exist in any distro I know
[04:48] <yamathan> Just a moment, right back!
[04:48] <phobiac> DaSkreech: The kdeautostart folder?
[04:48] <DaSkreech> !info screenkast
[04:48] <ubotu> Package screenkast does not exist in any distro I know
[04:49] <makuseru> well
[04:49] <Jucato> ssmasud: did you do "make uninstall" as we said earlier?
[04:49] <DaSkreech> phobiac: no
[04:49] <makuseru> istanbul IS in the rops
[04:49] <makuseru> repos*
[04:49] <ssmasud> jucato.....its not working.....
[04:49] <Jucato> ssmasud: what does it say?
[04:49] <DaSkreech> phobiac: which startkde
[04:49] <phobiac> DaSkreech: I don't know where to find that. Home folder? Root?
[04:49] <DaSkreech> phobiac: type what I just said :)
[04:49] <slestak> how can i tell if im using Xgl or AIGLX?  I have xorg7.1 installed, but I see some evidence that xgl is installed.  I am using fglrx driver from repos
[04:49] <phobiac> Okay
[04:49] <Jucato> makuseru: I sadi screenkast isn't :)
[04:50] <ssmasud> jucato..."no rule to make target uninstall"
[04:50] <Jucato> ssmasud: did you run "make uninstall" in the same directory were you ran "make" and "make install"?
[04:50] <ssmasud> jucato..yes
[04:51] <makuseru> Jucato: ubotu said istanbul wasnt
[04:51] <Jucato> !info istanbul
[04:51] <phobiac> DaSkreech: It gave me a few errors, for some annoying reason page up won't send me back up, and the only error I can see is "Can't contact kdeinit!"
[04:51] <ubotu> istanbul: Desktop session recorder. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.1-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 380 kB
[04:52] <Jucato> makuseru: ^^
[04:52] <phobiac> Oh and "xprop: unable to open display '"
[04:52] <Jucato> !istanbul
[04:52] <Jucato> makuseru: small letter 'i'
[04:52] <yamathan> Argh!  >: E
[04:52] <ssmasud> jucato...???
[04:52] <yamathan> I'm still getting a big fat "Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"." when I go via fglrxinfo.
[04:52] <DaSkreech> phobiac: shift +pgup
[04:53] <phobiac> DaSkreech: Aha it works
[04:53] <DaSkreech> highly useful
[04:53] <Jucato> ssmasud: I'm not sure anymore, because it seems that the Makefile that was produced by "make" is missing
[04:53] <phobiac> yamathan: Is your vid card ATI?
[04:53] <yamathan> Oh yes.
[04:53] <slestak> yamathan: im troubleshooting same error.
[04:53] <phobiac> Okay uhm, I had that issue. I recall something about turning off composite.
[04:53] <yamathan> Yeah.
[04:53] <yamathan> I already did that.  :s
[04:53] <phobiac> You did that? Okay
[04:54] <slestak> phobiac: mine as well.
[04:54] <ssmasud> jucato....I have to install ns2....i am already very late.....its an all-in-one package....so it gives an error on tcl.....can u please help me
[04:54] <phobiac> Did you change the driver in Xorg to fglrx and not ati?
[04:54] <DaSkreech> ssmasud: What kind of error on tcl ?
[04:54] <yamathan> Yes.
[04:54] <yamathan> Oh yes.
[04:54] <Jucato> DaSkreech: can you help... I'm sort of a bit dizzy
[04:54] <phobiac> yamathan: Then I have no idea. Sorry. :(
[04:55] <DaSkreech> Jucato: With?
[04:55] <ssmasud> DaSkreech......it says that variables already defined....or already installed..it exits installation...
[04:55] <Jucato> DaSkreech: ssmasud's problem
[04:55] <DaSkreech> sure go to bed
[04:55] <DaSkreech> ssmasud: can you pastebin the errors?
[04:55] <Jucato> DaSkreech: I'm not going to bed at noon! :P
[04:55] <ssmasud> can u plz give me the pastein link??
[04:55] <yamathan> Aaaaand now Beryl's looking for a composite extension.
[04:55] <phobiac> Oh crap, I think I've found my problem.
[04:56] <slestak> yamathan: i looked in Xorg.0.log and theres some indicaiton that acceleration is working. but glxinfo always retirns that XFREE86-Dri error
[04:56] <yamathan> What the Hell.  :s
[04:56] <yamathan> Really now.
[04:57] <phobiac> So it seems my /home/admin directory is full? I thought the partition I had that on was bigger then that. Hmm, well, time to do some digging and delete some files.
[04:57] <slestak> wheres out pastebin here?
[04:57] <ssmasud> DaSkreech.....I am sorry..i am getting the errors for TK...not for tcl.....when i type "whereis tk" then it say.../usr/lib/tk8.4...i have to remove tk...in order to proceed with ns2's installation
[04:58] <phobiac> I *think* this is from compiling firefox. The source must have pushed my partition close to it's limits. I'm going to have to change the size of that when this gets fixed.
[04:58] <phobiac> DaSkreech and Jucato: I think I've found the problem. Thank you SO much.
[04:58] <arunkale> hey people
[04:58] <mortici> would anyone know of any reason as to why my fonts in my web pages (which were fine) are all a sudden extreamly small, the ctrl+mouse wheel trick works but i hav eto do it everytime the browser starts
[04:58] <arunkale> long time no see
[04:58] <endo602> how can i get kopete to keep bigger font
[04:58] <endo602> nothing is working
[04:59] <slestak> yamathan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3788/
[04:59] <phobiac> When you do rm does it move files to trash or fully delete?
[04:59] <DaSkreech> !pastebin | ssmasud
[04:59] <DaSkreech> Wake up!
[04:59] <ubotu> ssmasud: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:00] <DaSkreech> Did I just get kicked?
[05:00] <DaSkreech> what was the last thing i said?
[05:00] <phobiac> Wake up!
[05:00] <DaSkreech> Ok
[05:00] <DaSkreech> Did the bot wake up?
[05:00] <phobiac> Yeah
[05:00] <DaSkreech> Ok did ssmasud pastesomethign ?
[05:00] <phobiac> DaSkreech: Does rm move files to the trash or do a full delete?
[05:00] <phobiac> Not yet
[05:01] <yamathan> slestak: I have no idea.
[05:01] <DaSkreech> full delete
[05:01] <slestak> phobiac: completely removes them
[05:01] <DaSkreech>  there is no trash on the command line
[05:01] <phobiac> Thank you
[05:01] <ssmasud> DaSkreech....http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3789/
[05:01] <mortici> god i hope i don't have to create a new user profile :/
[05:01] <DaSkreech> mortici: You make it sound so horrible :)
[05:02] <DaSkreech> ssmasud: What are you installing?
[05:03] <arunkale> I'm getting a new PC, does Kubuntu support Nvidia GeForce video cards?
[05:03] <ssmasud> DaSkreech...I am installing Network simulator2.....it needs tcl,tk,otcl,nam, etc..which it installed automatically...but i installed tcl and tk manually from src.....i have to remove tk now...
[05:03] <mortici> DaSkreech: you have no idea its annoying, that and Konq font is fine
[05:03] <DaSkreech> do a which tk
[05:04] <mortici> but some/most gtk (gnome based) apps are the only ones with this issue wtf
[05:04] <DaSkreech> mortici: What's the problem?
[05:04] <ssmasud> DaSkreech.....tk8.4
[05:04] <Jucato> mortici: have you tried adjusting the fonts in Konqueror -> Settings -> COnfigure Konqueror -> Fonts ?
[05:05] <mortici> Jucato: konq is fine
[05:05] <mortici> firefox/swiftfox is now
[05:05] <mortici> err not
[05:05] <mortici> konq sucks as a web browser :/
[05:05] <Jucato> oh... hm... non-KDE apps..
[05:05] <slestak> anyone know how to verify if Xgl or AIGLX is installed?
[05:05] <DaSkreech> ssmasud: you have two tk?
[05:06] <ssmasud> DaSkreech....no i have only once version...i have to remove it because NS2 itself installs its TK
[05:06] <slestak> and does AIGLX use DRI?
[05:06] <DaSkreech> ssmasud: and make install didn't remove it?
[05:06] <ssmasud> DaSkreech...no make uninstall didnt remove it
[05:07] <DaSkreech> what is still left?
[05:07] <yamathan> Huh.
[05:07] <yamathan> I wonder ...
[05:07] <yamathan> Why do I have AIGLX and GLX both installed?!  D:
[05:07] <arunkale> does Beryl work on KDE?
[05:07] <mortici> arunkale: very much so
[05:07] <mortici> :)
[05:07] <slestak> yes, I am using it
[05:07] <mortici> i use it daily :)
[05:08] <mortici> i help find bugs :D
[05:08] <arunkale> cool
[05:08] <slestak> beryl + kiba-dock is nice with kde
[05:08] <arunkale> I was wondering if I should use Beryl, or something else
[05:08] <indra> DaSkreech-- I have something, but I don't understand..in #debian, someone suggest me to run: ar x dpkg_fooversion.deb; tar -zxf data.tar.gz -C /;
[05:08] <arunkale> I'm getting a new PC with an Nvidia GeForce video card, is that fine?
[05:08] <ssmasud> DaSkreech....there is tk installed .....when I type dpkg -l tk...it shows me tk installed but with "no description"...when I type "whereis tk" it shows me that tk is intalled in /usr/lib/tk8.4
[05:09] <mortici> arunkale: nvidia is easier to get working than ati/intel whatever else lol
[05:09] <phobiac> Holy zombie jesus
[05:09] <DaSkreech> ssmasud: and you are still getting errors?
[05:09] <arunkale> mortici: that's what I thought
[05:09] <slestak> arunkale: i have been pleasantly surprised that some of my ,marginal machines do fine with beryl
[05:09] <ssmasud> DaSkreech ..yes
[05:09] <mortici> :)
[05:09] <phobiac> Jucato, DaSkreech: It's working! Thank you both *SO* much.
[05:09] <DaSkreech> indra: he's saying grab the deb for dpkg
[05:09] <cory_> hey new to here got message on screen saying sound server fatal error: cpu overload, aborting. what does this mean
[05:09] <arunkale> mortici: How easy is it to get Beryl set up?
[05:09] <mortici> my next puter that i build is gonna be able to calculate the interwebz twice over P
[05:10] <DaSkreech> phobiac: thank us tomorrow
[05:10] <mortici> arunkale: if you know what your doing,  i had it setup in under 15 mins after full os install :)
[05:10] <DaSkreech> that way you know it will be workign and we'll remember
[05:10] <arunkale> mortici: cool
[05:10] <DaSkreech> cory_: some sound bug
[05:10] <indra> DaSkreech-- how about data.tar.gz? is it something that I must looking for too?
[05:10] <DaSkreech> cory_: Let me know if it comes back
[05:10] <arunkale> I've been using Kubuntu for close to a year now
[05:10] <mortici> the nvidia drivers (beta ones) are the trickiest part as well as modifing the xorg.conf file :)
[05:10] <cory_> ok
[05:10] <mortici> :)
[05:10] <phobiac> I'll pop in tomorrow if it's still working. Thank you both again so much. I have my computer back!
[05:11] <mortici> then you should have no prob, there is  A LOT of documentation on beryl for ubuntu :)
[05:11] <arunkale> mortici: will i be required to modify xorg.conf? or does it just work out of the box
[05:11] <indra> DaSkreech-- do you understand 'debootstrap'?
[05:11] <DaSkreech> indra: No that will come from the .deb
[05:11] <slestak> the nvidia drivers do an ok job without installing XGL or AIGLX, it
[05:11] <mortici> arunkale: you will have to add 2 lines to xorg.conf for better stability and functionality
[05:11] <indra> DaSkreech-- o I c
[05:11] <DaSkreech> phobiac: you were ircing from the command line?
[05:11] <mortici> besides that the latest nvidia drivers come with aiglx built in so no worries there
[05:11] <mortici> just sudo aptitude install beryll
[05:12] <mortici> after you add the source repo :)
[05:12] <arunkale> cool
[05:12] <indra> DaSkreech-- do you understand 'debootstrap'?
[05:12] <DaSkreech> In my awake state yes
[05:12] <phobiac> DaSkreech: Yeah. Irssi ftw
[05:12] <DaSkreech> phobiac: kudos
[05:12] <DaSkreech>  :)
[05:12] <mortici> im prepping my desktop for a vista install :)
[05:12] <phobiac> Thanks
[05:12] <mortici> tri boot of course
[05:12] <arunkale> I'm actually wondering if I should install kubuntu on the new PC.. I mean I love it, but most of my work requires me to use Windows
[05:12] <mortici> xp, kubuntu, vista :D
[05:12] <phobiac> Right now I'm on a seperate comp, still irssi though.
[05:12] <surgy> hello
[05:13] <surgy> arunkle: whats the problem and what requires you to use windows?
[05:13] <mortici> no personal enjoyment
[05:13] <arunkale> surgy: there's no problem as such, i've been dual booting between kubuntu and windows xp in the last year
[05:13] <surgy> mortici: ok install win xp on a hdd and then vista onn another hdd and then kubuntu last
[05:14] <DaSkreech> surgy: I think he said his problem was his job :)
[05:14] <surgy> oh
[05:14] <mortici> im so agitated by firefox/gtk apps right now, for some reason fonts don't wanna cooperate
[05:14] <arunkale> most of my work involves designing, which i use windows for
[05:14] <mortici> is there any way to delete firefox settings files
[05:14] <Dr_willis> 'designing' :)
[05:14] <arunkale> :)
[05:14] <surgy> anyone know of a good program that i can use to monitor my bandwidth? not control but monitor
[05:14] <Dr_willis> mortici,  remove the .firefox or .mozilla dir perhaps.
[05:14] <mortici> surgy: i gots it under controll
[05:14] <mortici> mmmm k
[05:14] <DaSkreech> mortici: .firefox/profiles/your_profile
[05:15] <mortici> no such dirs
[05:16] <phobiac> Alright, I'm switching over to my now working computer. I'll be back here in a minute to see if I can help with anything.
[05:16] <phobiac> Thanks again for all the help.
[05:16] <Dr_willis> its .mozilla/firefox
[05:16] <DaSkreech> mortici: No .mozilla?
[05:17] <mortici> DaSkreech: i deleted the .mozilla folder
[05:17] <cory_> anyone know how to install ati graphics drivers
[05:17] <mortici> fixed the issue
[05:17] <mortici> just the app it self now has oversized fonts
[05:17] <DaSkreech> !ati
[05:17] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:17] <mortici> like the menus
[05:17] <cory_> yes
[05:18] <mortici> actually i don't mind it
[05:18] <mortici> its ok :)
[05:18] <cory_> i have video card
[05:19] <cory_> and it is in my computer but linux did not recognize it
[05:20] <yamathan> Hey, how's the BitLord reverse engineering going?
[05:20] <arunkale> uh oh.. looks like it's complicated to install drivers for nvidia geforce
[05:20] <mortici> if i make my own debs and install them, but there is a repo that updates those same debs, will the repo update the debs or do i have to do it manually?
[05:21] <Dr_willis> I dident think Vista had the updated windows filesystem, it got yanked by MS.
[05:21] <yamathan> Oh ho ho.  :3
[05:21] <yamathan> I wouldn't doubt that.
[05:21] <Dr_willis> yamathan,  Im pretty sure that was one of those 'BIG' improvements - that got yanked by ms. :)
[05:22] <yamathan> XD
[05:22] <Dr_willis> No fancy new FS, no DX-10, and somthing else...
[05:22] <DaSkreech> It is a new version of NTFS though
[05:22] <Dr_willis> Vista i hear is more of a disaster then XOP. :)
[05:22] <DaSkreech> There is DX-10
[05:22] <yamathan> As much as I'd like to see the Titan fall, I don't see people switching over FROM Vista ...
[05:22] <mortici> arunkale: no its not :P
[05:22] <yamathan> But, uh, they aren't going to see much migration from XP to Vista until assurances are actually made and kept.  :P
[05:23] <yamathan> *I DO see quite a few people switching from Vista to Mac, though.
[05:23] <yamathan> Oh ho ho!  :o
[05:23] <mortici> lol
[05:24] <mortici> we sell mac books at best buy too now
[05:24] <mortici> and ppl are buying them like crazy
[05:24] <yamathan> They're nice, but DAMN they're expensive.
[05:24] <mortici> i personally don't think vista is no where near ready to be released but they did :/
[05:24] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: how goes?
[05:24] <yamathan> The only way Vista is going to find its way on my machine in the next two years is if Spore is Vista-only.
[05:24] <yamathan> And if it's Vista-only I am NOT going to be happy about it!  >: EE
[05:24] <surgy> someone wanna walk me through compiling and installing from source?
[05:24] <EdOilers94> i sell Macs aswell, have alot ppl return them too
[05:25] <xsacha> mortici: it looked better 3 years ago than it does now.. let them have anymore time with it and it'll get worse
[05:25] <DaSkreech> surgy: What are you compiling?
[05:25] <EdOilers94> hey surgy
[05:25] <DaSkreech> EdOilers94: People expect them to be windows with out viruses?
[05:25] <yamathan> Wha?
[05:25] <xsacha> mortici: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9ifQvQCO7Y vista 3 years ago.. :P
[05:25] <yamathan> You gotta be KIDDING me.
[05:25] <cory_> how do you register in irc
[05:26] <EdOilers94> most find they cant do as much on them
[05:26] <DaSkreech> !register
[05:26] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[05:26] <yamathan> I mean, even Linux isn't virus-FREE ...
[05:26] <surgy> edoiler84: hey
[05:26] <yamathan> Although it IS significantly harder!
[05:26] <surgy> daskreech: bandwidth monitor from source forge
[05:27] <DaSkreech> surgy: try sudo apt-get install bandwidthd
[05:27] <yamathan> And, uh, for the record, Fedora Core might have a million-so users (according to the official repository's unique-IP logging), but I like Kubuntu/Ubuntu a LOT more than Fedora.
[05:27] <DaSkreech> surgy: do yuo use cli or adept?
[05:27] <arunkale> yamathan: I agree
[05:27] <surgy> adept
[05:28] <DaSkreech> did you search for bandwidth in it?
[05:28] <arunkale> i've tried both suse and fc and i think kubuntu is waay better
[05:28] <xsacha> me too
[05:28] <yamathan> I've been eyeing Saboyan for a friend, though!
[05:28] <xsacha> for a packaged base distro
[05:28] <yamathan> And when I say "for a friend" I also mean me.
[05:28] <arunkale> Saboyan?
[05:29] <yamathan> Yeah.
[05:29] <xsacha> based on gentoo, right?
[05:29] <yamathan> I believe so, yes.
[05:29] <arunkale> Is that another OS?
[05:29] <yamathan> That's why I'm very leery about recommending it.
[05:29] <xsacha> antoher linux distro
[05:29] <surgy> daskreech:Searching now
[05:29] <yamathan> I have ZERO experience with Gentoo.
[05:29] <mortici> xsacha: lol i agree with you after that video :P
[05:29] <xsacha> mortici: :P
[05:29] <arunkale> yamathan: I just did a google search for saboyan, didn't get anything significant
[05:30] <mortici> xsacha: that looked like a PROMISING os
[05:30] <surgy> daskreech: thnx man found it
[05:30] <yamathan> Really?
[05:30] <xsacha> arunkale: cause he spelt it wrong... Sabayon
[05:30] <DaSkreech> surgy: or bmon
[05:30] <yamathan> :s
[05:30] <arunkale> xsacha: thanks :)
[05:30] <yamathan> Sorry, man.
[05:30] <xsacha> arunkale: that was vista about 3 years ago
[05:30] <yamathan> Hey, they cut out the BSOD's!
[05:30] <xsacha> mortici: that was vista about 3 years ago*
[05:31] <xsacha> arunkale: wrong person :P
[05:31] <arunkale> xsacha: that's ok :) btw, you've got me all curious now. what was vista 3 years ago
[05:31] <yamathan> :D :D :D
[05:31] <mortici> xsacha: lol talk about down grading ahahah XD
[05:31] <yamathan> Man, that IS winneration.
[05:32] <yamathan> So that's the old version of Ribbon?
[05:33] <EdOilers94> surgy you busy?
[05:35] <DaSkreech> ssmasud: How you doing?
[05:36] <surgy> edoilers94: i pmed you
[05:38] <DaSkreech> !ati > oneeye
[05:44] <phobiac> :(
[05:44] <phobiac> I'm getting a weird bug in Amarok
[05:44] <phobiac> It says, "The xml transferlist was invalid" then to inform the developers.
[05:44] <phobiac> And my music isn't showing up in it.
[05:46] <silentdestruct> hi i was wondering what graphics driver i should use for beryl. im running intel chipset 965 and graphics accelertor x3000?   beryl continues to crash when trying to run
[05:47] <Dr_willis> x3000 - that an ati card?
[05:47] <silentdestruct> onboard
[05:47] <Dr_willis> You may not get very good performacnce with onboard video. sadly..
[05:48] <silentdestruct> i knew that, i was just wondering if it works or if therse a driver i can use
[05:48] <Dr_willis> so this is an onboard ati x3000 video?
[05:48] <silentdestruct> its not ati
[05:48] <xsacha> intel 965 will work fine in beryl
[05:49] <silentdestruct> h/o ill get the whole name
[05:49] <DaSkreech> phobiac: rebuild the collection
[05:50] <silentdestruct> Intel GMA X3000 onboard graphics subsystem
[05:50] <xsacha> just need direct rendering, AIGLX working (any new distro will have them working from install)
[05:50] <phobiac> Version DaSkreech: I hope I don't have to :(
[05:50] <xsacha> then just install beryl and it should work
[05:50] <DaSkreech> phobiac: takes a long time?
[05:50] <phobiac> Yeah. I lose all my ratings too.
[05:51] <DaSkreech> >_<
[05:51] <Dr_willis> "oh the horrors"
[05:51] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:52] <phobiac> It's not really that bad, but I'd rather not have to do it if there's a way around it.
[05:52] <phobiac> I had all my music rated too.
[05:52] <xsacha> :(
[05:53] <silentdestruct> how can i check to make sure direct rendering is on
[05:53] <silentdestruct> i remember runnign a test and it erroring
[05:53] <silentdestruct> but i forgot what i typed
[05:53] <xsacha> silentdestruct: glxinfo | grep direct
[05:54] <silentdestruct> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90797
[05:54] <silentdestruct> To uninstall Automatix, do the following from terminal:
[05:54] <silentdestruct> Code:
[05:54] <silentdestruct> sudo apt-get remove automatix
[05:54] <silentdestruct> ops
[05:54] <silentdestruct> libgl warning: 3d driver claims to not support visual 0x5a
[05:54] <silentdestruct> direct renderind: yes
[05:55] <xsacha> that's good
[05:55] <xsacha> also means aiglx is working
[05:55] <silentdestruct> ok
[05:55] <silentdestruct> any ideas on why beryl is crashing when switching from kde
[05:55] <xsacha> when you run beryl from the terminal, do you see any error in the output?
[05:56] <silentdestruct> im kinda a noob, whats the command
[05:56] <xsacha> beryl
[05:56] <silentdestruct> :\
[05:57] <flaccid> !mount > flaccid
[05:57] <silentdestruct> killed everyting
[05:57] <xsacha> no error?
[05:57] <silentdestruct> sent me to log in
[05:57] <silentdestruct> didnt get a chance to see
[05:57] <xsacha> hmm
[05:58] <silentdestruct> went black and then logged out
[05:58] <phobiac> silentdestruct: You have Xgl set up right?
[05:58] <xsacha> not using Xgl
[05:58] <silentdestruct> yep
[05:58] <phobiac> Or AIGLX
[05:58] <silentdestruct> its all on auto
[05:58] <silentdestruct> ive tryed it on xgl only, and nothing happens
[05:58] <silentdestruct> it doesnt crash but it wont switch from kde then
[05:58] <phobiac> Log back in and run beryl-manager
[05:58] <phobiac> Instead of beryl
[05:59] <silentdestruct> here it goes
[05:59] <silentdestruct> failed to open device
[05:59] <silentdestruct> a
[05:59] <silentdestruct> DRM_I830_CMDBUFFER: -22
[05:59] <silentdestruct> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[05:59] <silentdestruct>   Major opcode:  145
[05:59] <silentdestruct>   Minor opcode:  3
[05:59] <silentdestruct>   Resource id:  0x0
[05:59] <silentdestruct> Failed to open device
[05:59] <silentdestruct> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[06:00] <silentdestruct>   Major opcode:  145
[06:00] <silentdestruct>   Minor opcode:  3
[06:00] <silentdestruct>   Resource id:  0x0
[06:00] <silentdestruct> Failed to open device
[06:00] <silentdestruct> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[06:00] <silentdestruct>   Major opcode:  145
[06:00] <silentdestruct>   Minor opcode:  3
[06:00] <Dr_willis> silentdestruct,  theres no need to paste that
[06:00] <silentdestruct>   Resource id:  0x0
[06:00] <silentdestruct> Failed to open device
[06:00] <silentdestruct> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[06:00] <silentdestruct>   Major opcode:  145
[06:00] <silentdestruct>   Minor opcode:  3
[06:00] <silentdestruct>   Resource id:  0x0
[06:00] <flaccid> !baddevice > silentdestruct
[06:00] <silentdestruct> Failed to open device
[06:00] <silentdestruct> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[06:00] <phobiac> silentdestruct: Use pastebin so stuff like that
[06:00] <silentdestruct>   Major opcode:  145
[06:00] <flaccid> !paste > silentdestruct
[06:00] <silentdestruct>   Minor opcode:  3
[06:00] <silentdestruct>   Resource id:  0x0
[06:00] <phobiac> for*
[06:00] <silentdestruct> Failed to open device
[06:00] <flaccid> someone ban silentdestruct please
[06:00] <silentdestruct> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[06:00] <silentdestruct>   Major opcode:  145
[06:00] <silentdestruct>   Minor opcode:  3
[06:00] <silentdestruct>   Resource id:  0x0
[06:00] <silentdestruct> sorry if thats huge
[06:00] <hammer2> check it out boyz
[06:00] <silentdestruct> but the manager program did open
[06:00] <silentdestruct> sorry again
[06:00] <silentdestruct> sorry im new to this
[06:01] <hammer2> kubuntu 610 edgy here
[06:01] <hammer2> hammer@lappy:~$ uname -a
[06:01] <hammer2> Linux lappy 2.6.20-rc6-686 #1 SMP Mon Jan 29 01:10:43 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:01] <hammer2> hammer@lappy:~$
[06:01] <flaccid> this is not #paste ok!
[06:01] <phobiac> !past | silentmanager
[06:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about past - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:01] <phobiac> !paste | silentmanager
[06:01] <ubotu> silentmanager: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:01] <Dr_willis> silentdestruct,  thats messages because the wacom tablet is configured by default. its just a info/warning.
[06:01] <silentdestruct> gotcha
[06:01] <silentdestruct> thanks
[06:02] <phobiac> silentmanager: Do you see a little red gem in your toolbar?
[06:02] <phobiac> Whereever you have it
[06:02] <silentdestruct> yes i do
[06:02] <silentdestruct> thats what i dont get
[06:02] <silentdestruct> it runs, but nothing happens
[06:02] <phobiac> Click it, tell me what window manger it's set to.
[06:02] <silentdestruct> kwin
[06:02] <phobiac> Do you see beryl as an option?
[06:03] <silentdestruct> if i go to beryl it crashes
[06:03] <silentdestruct> yep
[06:03] <phobiac> Oh it crashes when you choose it.
[06:03] <silentdestruct> correct
[06:03] <silentdestruct> and logs me out and everything kills
[06:03] <silentdestruct> not fun
[06:05] <silentdestruct> any idea why its crashing?
[06:05] <silentdestruct> and it doesnt run a fallback kde when it does
[06:06] <phobiac> Is that option checked off?
[06:06] <silentdestruct> nope its on
[06:06] <phobiac> Odd
[06:07] <d0dge-> What should I use for streaming the whole soundcard to Icecast server?
[06:07] <xsacha> silentdestruct: can you pastebin Xorg.0.log? http://pastebin.ca
[06:07] <render> sooo... i just installed kubuntu
[06:08] <render> i cant login. it wodn't accept my username / pw
[06:08] <render> why?
[06:08] <silentdestruct> wahts xorg log
[06:08] <xsacha> silentdestruct: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:08] <Dr_willis> render,  typed it in wrong would be my guess
[06:09] <render> i have tried, retried, and tried some more
[06:09] <Dr_willis> render,  or the caps lock may of been on when you first entered it.
[06:09] <xsacha> have you ever logged in before?
[06:09] <Dr_willis> or your key repeate is all messed up....
[06:09] <Dr_willis> try logging in from the console
[06:09] <silentdestruct> ok i got it
[06:10] <render> nope, caps lock didnt work. no, i haven't ever logged in before
[06:10] <render> and im completely new to linux so i dont know how to do anuything from console
[06:10] <xsacha> so most likely entered it wrong first time when you created it
[06:10] <Dr_willis> that would be my guess as well xsacha
[06:10] <Dr_willis> thats why i always use 'password' for my password. :)
[06:10] <xsacha> lol
[06:10] <Dr_willis> Darn! now i have to change it!
[06:10] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:11] <xsacha> password1
[06:11] <Dr_willis> wordpass
[06:11] <Dr_willis> xsacha,  those are the passwords we use at work.. we have to change every 30 days.. so password1 becomes password2 and so on. :)
[06:11] <render> i could probably not be any more positive that i typed it right
[06:11] <xsacha> trybruteforcingthishumungousone
[06:11] <Dr_willis> render,  during the INSTALL you may of typed it in wrong.
[06:12] <render> yes i know what you meant
[06:12] <Dr_willis> boot using that rescue mode perhaps?
[06:12] <Dr_willis> but im not sure of the proper way to reset the thing for a beginner. :) i'd boot a live cd, chroot to the existing system.. and use 'passwd username'
[06:13] <Dr_willis> but im hardkore. :)
[06:13] <render> just booted in recovery mode. im at a command line
[06:13] <Dr_willis> try passwd YOURUSERNAME
[06:14] <render> password updated succesfully
[06:14] <xsacha> :)
[06:15] <Dr_willis> now write it down on a post-it-note and stick it on the monitor!
[06:15] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:15] <render> then?
[06:15] <xsacha> black password ftw
[06:15] <Dr_willis> reboot. :)
[06:15] <xsacha> blank*
[06:18] <Dr_willis> and no password.
[06:18] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:20] <phobiac> partition*
[06:21] <Dr_willis> you sure its 'music' ? :)
[06:21] <DaSkreech> render: Know how to reboto from the command line?
[06:22] <phobiac> Yeah. I had about half of my music still on NTFS from immigrating from windows and not really knowing what to do with it. Amarok has to rescan my collection anyway so I figure why not move it to my ext3 partition that I have set up for media and the like.
[06:23] <|Daisuke_Ido|> phobiac: what db are you using in amarok?
[06:23] <ForgeAus> ahh much better fstab fixed things
[06:23] <phobiac> Now all my music can be together, and away from any influence from windows.
[06:23] <phobiac> Daisuke: I don't remember to be honest.
[06:23] <phobiac> Let me check
[06:23] <|Daisuke_Ido|> defaults to sqlite, i haven't attempted postgre, but i know mysql is a LOT faster than sqlite
[06:24] <phobiac> It's porobably sqlite then.
[06:24] <|Daisuke_Ido|> i'm just curious about postgre's performance as far as scanning
[06:25] <phobiac> How hard is postgre to set up? I might be bored enough to attempt it.
[06:26] <phobiac> Right now though it's 12:30 in the morning and I'm running on about 4 hours of sleep. Yay for loss of my already short attention span.
[06:31] <render> worked alright. another question, though. why is display resolution maxed out at 1024x768?
[06:32] <render> anybody...?  =[
[06:32] <phobiac> render: Your settings must have been, well, set up wrong.
[06:33] <phobiac> What's the resolution you know it can display?
[06:34] <phobiac> !resolution
[06:34] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:34] <phobiac> Aha, try that
[06:36] <render> er, nothing happened
[06:37] <render> and as for !resolution, it 'could not run'
[06:40] <usman> Samba 4.0.0TP3 Available for Download
[06:40] <usman> can anyone tell me what is TP3
[06:42] <phobiac> Render: I meant go to the link it provided.
[06:42] <phobiac> !resoultion
[06:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about resoultion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:42] <phobiac> !resolution
[06:42] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:42] <phobiac> The one at the bottom.
[06:45] <phobiac> Night all
[06:45] <silentdestruct> finally got it to paste
[06:46] <silentdestruct> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3803/
[06:46] <silentdestruct> now whys beryl not working lol, or crashing
[06:49] <silentdestruct> anybody?
[06:51] <DaSkreech> !ati
[06:51] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:00] <silentdestruct> beryl keeps crashing when trying to run
[07:01] <silentdestruct> everything passes, max res is 2048x2048, no errors
[07:01] <DaSkreech> silentdestruct: ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[07:01] <silentdestruct> k
[07:09] <ce_tpt_curhat> hiii...
[07:10] <DaSkreech> Shhhh
[07:10] <DaSkreech> sleeping
[07:12] <intelikey> DaSkreech you ran him off....
[07:14] <Jucato> ssshh.... studying...
[07:16] <intelikey> "Shhh       baby's asleep,"
[07:18] <intelikey> SHUT UP! Ya dang fool.  can't ya see i've got a hang over...                  <<<  or maybe that one?
[07:24] <intelikey> anyone know perl ?    what's wrong with this script ? http://pastebin.ca/raw/336725  ???
[07:25] <intelikey> i can't get it to print anything to the screen.     admitedly i don't know much about perl, but what am i missing there ?
[07:26] <|Daisuke_Ido|> i don't know *anything* about perl, but should there be an opening parentheses without a closing?
[07:26] <|Daisuke_Ido|> ($memsources = etc etc etc
[07:26] <|Daisuke_Ido|> oh, no
[07:27] <|Daisuke_Ido|> nevermind, it's closed :\
[07:27] <Jucato> does one have to be root to add a printer?
[07:27] <|Daisuke_Ido|> i wouldn't think so
[07:27] <Jucato> ok thanks
[07:28] <DaSkreech> You just ahve to be a cups admin
[07:39] <mortici> Vista diserves die and burn, burn and go to hell and die.
[07:39] <ForgeAus> nah not vista microsoft.. but then XP isn't so bad
[07:39] <flaccid> vista is bad mmk
[07:39] <cory_> hey
[07:40] <mortici> lol
[07:40] <mortici> it just almost ate my whole hdd's partition table
[07:40] <mortici> that and half of my drivers didn't work
[07:40] <ForgeAus> mortici... thats ok use grub
[07:40] <mortici> its supposed to have 30000 drivers built in thats bs
[07:40] <|Daisuke_Ido|> um
[07:41] <|Daisuke_Ido|> vista isn't bad
[07:41] <ForgeAus> you need 30000 drivers to run a PC? wow! that sounds excessive
[07:41] <mortici> lol
[07:41] <musya> what sort of databases does open ofice make?
[07:41] <|Daisuke_Ido|> bad is waking up and finding an inch of water on the floor
[07:41] <mortici> its for "ease of install"
[07:41] <xsacha> no, but a billion people do
[07:41] <musya> the same kind as mysql would?
[07:41] <ForgeAus> mdb
[07:41] <ForgeAus> microsoft office uses .mdb format
[07:41] <|Daisuke_Ido|> that's xp
[07:41] <ForgeAus> not sure if thats changed in 2k7
[07:42] <ForgeAus> its almost suprising they havn't made an access that does sql instead of .mdb's
[07:42] <mortici> lol xsacha i wish it was like the video portrayed it to be
[07:42] <musya> im talking about open office for kubuntu
[07:42] <mortici> now, now i have nothing but disgust for vista
[07:42] <ForgeAus> (as in from sql server)
[07:42] <xsacha> yeah mortici, but if they did that in this version they wouldnt have anything for next version
[07:42] <ForgeAus> open office? um is that kexi?
[07:42] <xsacha> mortici: idea is sell this one on marketing
[07:43] <ForgeAus> I think it imports databases of many forms, not sure which one it works with natively
[07:43] <|Daisuke_Ido|> vista would be more like...  waking up to find someone has taken an x-acto knife to every cd in your collection and left you a note saying "if you want to listen to these, you have to buy them again!"
[07:43] <musya> ??? it comes in kde? or at least with ubuntu
[07:43] <musya> what type would mysql database be?
[07:43] <flaccid> serious
[07:43] <ForgeAus> personally I dont know why we don't still just use .dbf's!
[07:43] <mortici> bah
[07:44] <ForgeAus> compile multiple ones into a management system... maybe .dbms!
[07:44] <oneeye> hey
[07:44] <musya> how do i change from kde to gnome without loggin out or restarting my computer?
[07:44] <ForgeAus> perhaps thats what .mdb was intended to be
[07:44] <ForgeAus> musya?
[07:44] <ForgeAus> you can run gnome apps inside kde
[07:44] <musya> i know but if want to go back to the gnome enviroment.
[07:45] <ForgeAus> but to switch you really need to log out and log back in
[07:45] <musya> ah,ok
[07:45] <ForgeAus> or run a nested or Virtual machine! lol
[07:45] <musya> anyone know of an good text editing program for kde? like for programming
[07:45] <musya> ?>
[07:45] <|Daisuke_Ido|> musya: vi
[07:45] <Jucato> musya: or create a new user solely for each desktop environment and start a new session
[07:45] <flaccid> dbf what is that?
[07:45] <Jucato> kate!
[07:45] <darthdual> Hey all, I'm having security issues with konqueror.  When I login to my msn.com email on hotmail.com, I have always have to enter the password twice.  The first time always reports that the password is incorrect.  Could I be the victim of a man-in-the-middle attack.
[07:46] <|Daisuke_Ido|> emacs
[07:46] <musya> i dont like kate
[07:46] <flaccid> musya: kdevelop for ide, kate for TE
[07:46] <musya> emacs is pretty difficult
[07:46] <flaccid> kwrite, kedit, nedit etc.
[07:46] <musya> i got kdevelop want too impressed
[07:46] <|Daisuke_Ido|> musya: then avoid vi like the plague
[07:46] <musya> i have gedit
[07:46] <flaccid> lots to choose from goto apt://search?text editor
[07:46] <Jucato> heh... there's no pleasing anyone...
[07:46] <|Daisuke_Ido|> it makes emacs look easy :D
[07:46] <flaccid> i use kate all day every day
[07:46] <musya> il chek out kedit and nedit
[07:46] <flaccid> its fine
[07:46] <|Daisuke_Ido|> kate is actually pretty nice
[07:47] <flaccid> its all much of a muchness
[07:47] <flaccid> and it feels good to be using a woman
[07:47] <Jucato> and most of all KDE development environments use Kate kpart
[07:47] <Jucato> flaccid: baaad :P
[07:47] <flaccid> hehe yeah bit of a joke
[07:47] <flaccid> a bad joke at that
[07:47] <mortici> :D
[07:47] <Phlosten> badoom ching!
[07:48] <mortici> i love kubuntu
[07:48] <darthdual> Anyone here know about konqueror security?
[07:48] <musya> lol using woman
[07:48] <musya> i dont like konqueror
[07:48] <musya> firfox is better
[07:48] <darthdual> musya, why?  Is it known to be insecure at all?
[07:48] <mortici> why does konq suck as a web browser, and media and just browsing in general is overly slow or doesn't work
[07:48] <mortici> i don't get it
[07:48] <mortici> id love to use it
[07:48] <musya> doesnt load some pages like hotmail
[07:48] <musya> freaks out on me
[07:49] <Phlosten> yeah, there are a few it borks at
[07:49] <Jucato> most of the stuff that konqi couldn't load are due to non-standard coding and/or AJAX
[07:49] <Phlosten> i always find myself loading firefox
[07:49] <darthdual> The only reason I use it is that for some reason on ubuntu firefox won't load alot of web pages.
[07:49] <darthdual> nor epiphany, or galeon.......
[07:49] <Phlosten> as firefox has all the neato extensions :)
[07:49] <musya> i use konqueror to search for files
[07:49] <darthdual> Anyone know why that is.........
[07:50] <|Daisuke_Ido|> something's broken
[07:50] <Phlosten> sounds broken
[07:50] <musya> reload it
[07:50] <Phlosten> firebug rocks
[07:50] <xsacha> 'extentions' are terrible imo
[07:50] <darthdual> I noticed that the only pages it will load are https://   web sites but not http://
[07:50] <xsacha> never noticed that darth :S
[07:51] <darthdual> Is there a firewall setting I might be missing.
[07:51] <|Daisuke_Ido|> but "extensions" are awesome.
[07:51] <Jucato> darthdual: hm.. what's the web page?
[07:51] <Jucato> (btw, konqueror has some extensions too... just not as many...)
[07:51] <darthdual> Any page.  Sometimes they load and then sometimes they don't.
[07:51] <xsacha> i've never liked firefox.. it feels bulky and looks ugly -- very slow compared to other browsers i use.     i end up using it a lot anyway (like at uni where i have no choice)
[07:51] <darthdual> But konqueror works for me all the time.
[07:51] <ForgeAus> yay I fixed my dependancy problems
[07:52] <|Daisuke_Ido|> add the bells and whistles *you* want, rather than what the developer thinks you need (i'm looking at you, IE7)
[07:52] <intelikey> what's an extention ?    or extending what, maybe i should ask.
[07:52] <ForgeAus> but still missing ubuntu-minimal :(
[07:52] <xsacha> cant konqueror use all firefox extentions?
[07:52] <Jucato> xsacha: nope
[07:52] <mortici> xsacha: which browser do you use?
[07:52] <ForgeAus> if the rest of the OS works I think I might let it go
[07:52] <musya> firefox has had memory leak issues
[07:52] <ForgeAus> I don't understand why ubuntu minimal is a problem tho
[07:52] <xsacha> definately memory leak issues
[07:52] <xsacha> it gets up to 300MB here sometimes
[07:53] <darthdual> really, memory leaks, that can't be good.
[07:53] <musya> ive had a like 1.3 gigs
[07:53] <Jucato> |Daisuke_Ido|: it's not about what the developr thinks you need, but about who would be developing those extensions and about system security/stability
[07:53] <musya> only if you got a lot of window open and for too long
[07:53] <darthdual> Isn't that an open hole for a hacker to exploit?
[07:53] <musya> like a few days i a row
[07:53] <intelikey> ForgeAus cause it's a meta package that depends on every thing the ubuntu team thought important to a minimal ubuntu system   like restricted kernel modules and the like....
[07:53] <xsacha> i dont have 1.3 gigs for it to steal (including paged), so it hasnt gotten to there for me but i bet it would
[07:53] <ForgeAus> musya why do that?
[07:54] <ForgeAus> intelikey I understand its a metapackage
[07:54] <mortici> what would be a good light weight browser then
[07:54] <xsacha> darthdual: no.. that's extra memory (RAM) thats get used up
[07:54] <mortici> im using swiftfox for now
[07:54] <ForgeAus> but I am feeling a little insecure about the fact that my kubuntu doesn't seem to want to keep it
[07:54] <musya> some people dont stop working, some dont turn off computer. some just too lazy
[07:54] <ForgeAus> I seem to be able to fix things... but I can't seem to fix it withotu sacrificing ubuntu-minimal
[07:54] <xsacha> darthdual: problem in code.. stuff not being freed etcetera.. causes memory usage to skyrocket
[07:55] <ForgeAus> which tends to ring alarm bells
[07:55] <Jucato> ubuntu-minimal itself isn't installed by default during the installation, only its dependencies (afaik)
[07:55] <ForgeAus> Jucato but if its the important core of ubuntu
[07:55] <intelikey> ForgeAus alarm bells ?
[07:55] <ForgeAus> something I've done/installed has undermined it/conflicted with it
[07:56] <ForgeAus> what does that say for my system?
[07:56] <Jucato> ForgeAus: not really sure how important the metapackage is itself, since it's not installed by default anyway. but for the sake of upgrading from Dapper to Edgy, it had to be installed
[07:56] <ForgeAus> IC
[07:57] <ForgeAus> well at least my kubuntu-desktop and now ubuntu-desktop is fine
[07:59] <oneeye> need help installing vlc
[07:59] <mortici> xsacha: btw i love trailfocus even more now :D
[07:59] <mortici> i saw the edit in the source
[07:59] <mortici> i looked yesterday
[07:59] <intelikey> ForgeAus i'd just remove all the meta packages with *ubuntu* in the name and go with it.       errr have.  actually.
[07:59] <mortici> and noticed that the common line couldn't be added
[08:00] <mortici> but rather just needed to add wmType :P
[08:00] <smaggard> hello
[08:00] <xsacha> mortici: yeah well it was simplified
[08:01] <xsacha> (x & y ) && !(z & y)     could be simplified
[08:01] <surgy> hi
[08:01] <smaggard> hi
[08:01] <surgy> we dont get flash 8 do we?
[08:01] <mortici> xsacha: do explain :)
[08:01] <smaggard> whadya mean?
[08:01] <xsacha> mortici: nevermind.. just didnt want redundant code
[08:01] <surgy> also my windows start in the middle of my taskbar instead of to the left
[08:02] <mortici> oh wait durrrrrhhh i get it :P
[08:02] <surgy> well i have the flash plugin for firefox but abc.com says i need flash 8
[08:02] <xsacha> you got flash 7
[08:02] <intelikey> ( x , !z & y )
[08:02] <xsacha> you need the flash 9 plugin
[08:02] <surgy> but i can get it?
[08:02] <Jucato> !flash9 | surgy
[08:02] <ubotu> surgy: Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[08:03] <surgy> how do i make my windows open on the left side of my taskbar? at the end of my shortcuts
[08:03] <mortici> im no super code junkie, but wouldn't mind learning as much as possible
[08:03] <smaggard> the new flash works super good
[08:03] <Jucato> surgy: move the taskbar applet? it has a handle that lets you move it
[08:04] <surgy> jucato no
[08:05] <intelikey> if the pannel is not locked
[08:05] <mortici> theres flash 9 for linux?
[08:05] <Jucato> if the handles are not hidden
[08:05] <Jucato> mortici: yep
[08:05] <surgy> jucato the taskbar is in the right place but when i open a window it opens right in the middle of the taskbar instead of off to the left
[08:05] <Jucato> surgy: you might be confusing the panel (the whole bar) with the taskbar (which is just an applet, a part, a component of the panel)
[08:06] <intelikey> surgy right click the thing and configure it.
[08:06] <mortici> jucato is there a deb?
[08:06] <Jucato> !flash9 | mortici
[08:06] <ubotu> mortici: Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[08:06] <Jucato> mortici: better, it's in the repositories
[08:06] <mortici> :D
[08:06] <mortici> swwwwwat
[08:06] <Jucato> packaged for you and tested to work :)
[08:07] <mortici> !backports
[08:07] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[08:07] <surgy> ok the panel then, and there is no option for where the applications start in the config
[08:08] <Jucato> surgy: when you hover over the taskbar area, you will see applet handles which you can drag/slide to position it
[08:08] <Jucato> the taskbar area is where your apps names start appearing
[08:08] <surgy> jucato: yeah thats what i thought at first but i dont see any
[08:09] <mortici> Jucato: sweet added the repo
[08:09] <Jucato> surgy: you must have set them to be hidden. right-click on the panel -> Configure Panel -> Appearance -> click the Advanced Options. then set Applet Handles to Fade Out or Visible
[08:10] <oslo> hi
[08:11] <oslo> i'm looking for my krfb logs ..do you know where it could be ???
[08:11] <Jucato> oslo: try /var/log/ or if not there ~/.kde/share/apps/krfb
[08:11] <surgy> jucato: ahhh.... got it
[08:12] <surgy> thnx
[08:12] <Jucato> no problemo
[08:12] <surgy> !flash
[08:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:12] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[08:13] <mortici> i have non free installed
[08:14] <surgy> im not seeing flash 9 in adept and i have backports and restricted
[08:15] <Jucato> surgy: are you sure you have edgy-backports enabled?
[08:15] <Jucato> the one with "edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse" at the end
[08:15] <surgy> jucato: let me double check but im pretty sure
[08:16] <mortici> it should be flash-nonfree
[08:16] <mortici> 100k
[08:16] <mortici> i think
[08:16] <Jucato> flashplugin-nonfree
[08:16] <mortici> yep thats the one
[08:16] <oslo> Jucato> i can't find it
[08:16] <surgy> jucato: yeah right here
[08:16] <surgy> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[08:16] <surgy> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[08:16] <smaggard> all u have to do is download the flash thingy and put it in your plugins dir.
[08:16] <surgy> jucato: found it hnx again
[08:19] <surgy> jucato: abc.com is still saying i need flash 8 i probably need to upgrade now huh?
[08:20] <Jucato> surgy: huh? flash 9 is higher than flash 8
[08:21] <intelikey> hmmm    bash math is very limited...    echo $(((18 / 100) * 100))    should say 18  yes very simple  but bash doesn't do floating point, so how sould you do the same calculations without any dicimals ?
[08:21] <surgy> jucato: i know i installed the package you said, but now its upgrading a bunch of stuff, hold on it might work
[08:21] <Jucato> brb...
[08:21] <intelikey> ah nm  i see it.     echo $(((18 * 100) / 100))
[08:22] <surgy> jucato: its still saying it needs flash 8......
[08:23] <avvie> hiz
[08:23] <intelikey> avvie
[08:23] <avvie> yes?
[08:27] <Jucato> surgy: did you install flashplugin-nonfree?
[08:27] <Jucato> works fine here..
[08:28] <surgy> jucato: click on "full episodes" and yes thats the package i installed
[08:28] <Jucato> surgy: what browser are you using?
[08:28] <Jucato> ok let me try that
[08:28] <Jucato> abc.com right?
[08:29] <surgy> yeah www.abc.com > full episodes
[08:29] <Jucato> what partitcular episode?
[08:29] <Jucato> or show
[08:29] <surgy> lost
[08:30] <Jucato> haha I'm not from the US :)
[08:30] <surgy> lol
[08:30] <xsacha> it says: "Only viewers within the United States can watch these videos."
[08:30] <surgy> it didnt give you the flash 8 error?
[08:30] <xsacha> nup
[08:31] <xsacha> surgy: can you give link to site after you click on one of the shows? (perhaps to bypass US check)
[08:32] <surgy> its before i click on shows actualy
[08:32] <Jucato> ah then there's no problem here...
[08:32] <xsacha> no prob here
[08:32] <xsacha> but i wanna see one of the shows anyway :)
[08:32] <Jucato> roflmao
[08:32] <Jucato> get a plan ticket
[08:33] <xsacha> naah i'd rather get a proxy server
[08:33] <surgy> http://dynamic.abc.go.com/streaming/landing
[08:33] <xsacha> thats where i am.. ah i see: openPlayer(7);
[08:34] <orient2000> Hi! Anybody can tell me how to upgrade KDE? I think there is a new stable versiom released.
[08:34] <surgy> orient2000: with magic
[08:35] <orient2000> magic!
[08:35] <surgy> whats the command to remove all the dependant files that i dont need?
[08:35] <xsacha> var pagename = "PAGE_LANDING_ERROR_COUNTRY_AUS";
[08:35] <orient2000> what is magic?
[08:35] <Jucato> orient2000: http://kubuntu.org
[08:36] <orient2000> thanks.
[08:37] <intelikey> http://pastebin.ca/336784
[08:37] <intelikey> what i couldn't do with perl,  seemed simple with bash....  i guess it depends on which language you learn.
[08:38] <Jucato> that's why I prefer English :D
[08:38] <intelikey> tobe haenglesh
[08:39] <intelikey> or yeah...
[08:40] <orient2000> New KDE is for Edgy but I have Kubuntu 6.06.  Is it going to work?
[08:41] <Jucato> orient2000: ah no...
[08:41] <bele> no - it's only for edgy
[08:41] <Jucato> you'd have to wait a bit to see if there will be a 3.5.6 for Dapper
[08:41] <orient2000> Thanks.
[08:42] <surgy> kewl so should i wait on feisty to come out before i get the new kde? or should i go ahead and get it? will it be on feisty-update?
[08:42] <Jucato> surgy: are you on edgy?
[08:43] <surgy> jucato: yes 6.10
[08:43] <Jucato> surgy: then you can upgrade to KDE 3.5.6 without upgrading to Edgy
[08:43] <Jucato> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php
[08:43] <surgy> jucato: im allready edgy
[08:43] <Jucato> er I meant upgrading to feisty
[08:45] <surgy> jucato: but feisty is comming out in april right?
[08:45] <surgy> jucato: and if the new kde is on it then i can wait
[08:46] <surgy> jucato: and i only need one of those mirrors right?
[08:48] <surgy> ?
[08:54] <yuriy> surgy: yes you just need one mirror
[08:55] <surgy> thanks
[08:57] <kraut> moin
[09:01] <ForgeAus> ok how do I get kicker to show back up again (its running still it just doesn't unhide itself for some reason)
[09:01] <ForgeAus> I wish I still had settings on my kmenu... I can show it from there
[09:10] <Steven_M> hi all
[09:10] <intelikey> Steven_M
[09:12] <[StingRay] > Hi. Are there other ways than setxkbmap and xmodmap, that one can use to change keyboard layouts?
[09:14] <intelikey> the kde pointy clicky thingy ?
[09:15] <intelikey> and setting the locales ?
[09:15] <underdog5004> whoa, kaffeine just crashed after I tried to skip back through some files that it was accessing remotely (not _those_ files, audio files stored on my local server). When I tried to skip back, kaffeine froze, then I did a killall kaffeine...now I get a error 11? I don't know much...here's the debugging stuff..        http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3805/
[09:16] <underdog5004> The application kaffeine player crashed and caused the signal 11 [SigSeGv] 
[09:17] <intelikey> !bug
[09:17] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[09:17] <underdog5004> intelikey, bummer, hoped it was a quickfix
[09:22] <intelikey> underdog5004 there may be.  i don't use the gui much.   but if you do find a bug, report it.
[09:23] <underdog5004> ok
[09:23] <underdog5004> gonna restart my computer first...for the first time in 2 weeks...
[09:27] <underdog5004> intelikey, hmmm, a restart did it...
[09:27] <underdog5004> wonder what _that_ was all about...
[09:30] <Steven_M> how do make edgy go on standby from the console?
[09:31] <makuseru> hello, when i try to start a program it wont run, and if i try to launch it from a terminal i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3806/ can someone please help me figure out got to get it to run
[09:39] <intelikey> what the krap am i missing here ?
[09:39] <intelikey> echo "${mem[0] } - ${mem[1] } - ${mem[2] } - ${mem[3] }"
[09:39] <intelikey> 255220 218172 1388 20480 -  -  -
[09:39] <intelikey> why does it move the  dashes to the end ?
[09:39] <intelikey> wait.  i may know.
[09:40] <Jucato> $( ) ?
[09:40] <intelikey> testing...
[09:41] <intelikey> Jucato ?
[09:41] <Jucato> nvm me
[09:41] <Jucato> I just though $(mem[0] )
[09:41] <Jucato> thought*
[09:42] <intelikey> ok i found out why my problem...  but don't yet know the answer.
[09:42] <makuseru> hello, when i try to start a program it wont run, and if i try to launch it from a terminal i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3806/ can someone please help me figure out got to get it to run
[09:45] <intelikey> makuseru install gconf ?
[09:45] <makuseru> yes
[09:46] <MistaED> hey, would anyone know what's up with my kde? i've got edgy 64-bit and i keep hearing some insanely annoying sound now and again when an event happens, that and guidance/the xorg config fails to load
[09:57] <Steven_M> how do make edgy go on standby from the console?
[09:57] <intelikey> suspend ?
[09:58] <Steven_M> intelikey: yep
[09:59] <Xemanth> my acer 5024wlmi suspends nicely but  never wakes up :D
[09:59] <Xemanth> Steven_M: suspend1 or suspend2 ? :)
[10:00] <Xemanth> http://www.suspend2.net/features
[10:00] <Xemanth> http://www.suspend2.net/HOWTO-3.html#ss3.2
[10:01] <mike__> is ubuntu and kubuntu repositories the same?
[10:01] <Jucato> mike__: yes
[10:01] <Steven_M> Xemanth: what's the difference?
[10:01] <mike__> thanx
[10:01] <Xemanth> Steven_M: suspend2 is much improved
[10:01] <Russell-> i have a problem... can anyone help?
[10:02] <Russell-> i changed my ISP today, now internet is working on Windows, but not on Kubuntu 6.06
[10:04] <Russell-> what might be the problem?
[10:09] <Steven_M> Xemanth: what about hibernation?
[10:12] <intelikey> ha   pay dirt.     i found it.
[10:13] <fernando> I have problem with my Nvidia drivers
[10:13] <fernando> If I install it the process is correct
[10:14] <Phlosten> intelikey: what did you find?
[10:14] <fernando> considering that the drivers need to compile again the drivers because not precompile exist for the kernel of kubuntu 6.10
[10:15] <intelikey> Phlosten the all bash way to get the info out of a variable that i want      without  external commands like cut and tr
[10:15] <fernando> I start the X server.. and everything work just fine... including direc rendering
[10:16] <fernando> but, if I restart the system... then I get the problem..that the drivers are for a diferent kernel.., nevertheless after I restart everthiny work just fine
[10:16] <intelikey> it was very simple as i knew it would be.    i was using  var="blah blah"    but needed  var=(blah blah)       "arrays"
[10:16] <fernando> If I install the drivers again everything work just fine again
[10:17] <fernando> someone can halp mi with that??
[10:18] <intelikey> !ati | fernando
[10:18] <ubotu> fernando: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:18] <intelikey> if it's not there i can't help you ....
[10:20] <premier_> hey guys, does anyone here know about mencoder?
[10:20] <premier_> !mencoder
[10:20] <ubotu> mencoder: MPlayer's Movie Encoder. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre8-0ubuntu8 (edgy), package size 3171 kB, installed size 7956 kB
[10:21] <Steven_M> how do make edgy go on hibernate from the console?
[10:25] <ubuntu> hello
[10:25] <bxnp> what are you doing ubuntu
[10:25] <ubuntu> i just booted up with kubuntu 6.10 live cd on vmware
[10:25] <bxnp> go back to the right channel oh and
[10:26] <ubuntu> it says kmix not found the mix is installed and running by default
[10:26] <bxnp> how is it running
[10:26] <intelikey> Steven_M did you even look at the url that xemanth gave you ?
[10:26] <intelikey>  http://www.suspend2.net/HOWTO-3.html#ss3.2
[10:26] <intelikey> !hibernate
[10:26] <ubotu> hibernate: smartly puts your computer to sleep (suspend to RAM or disk). In component universe, is extra. Version 1.91-2 (edgy), package size 72 kB, installed size 364 kB
[10:26] <Phlosten> dkhan: vmware doesn't share your audio device by default
[10:27] <dkhan> bxnp everything else is fine and except i can't hear any sounds
[10:27] <dkhan> phlosten how do fix that
[10:27] <Phlosten> dkhan: shut down ubuntu, then in vmware edit the virtual machine setting and add an audio device to it
[10:28] <dkhan> phlosten thx i will try
[10:28] <dkhan> brb
[10:34] <jcmeliton> hi
[10:34] <zorglu_> !info dbus-monitor
[10:34] <ubotu> Package dbus-monitor does not exist in any distro I know
[10:34] <jcmeliton> anybody knows any program similar to spacemonger for windows?
[10:35] <dkhan> alright it worked thx guys
[10:36] <dkhan> now one more prob when i boot from the cd on my dell inspiron xps it freezez anywork around that
[10:36] <dkhan> plus how do install network card drivers using the lspci or somthing can anybody give me a link for the tutorial
[10:39] <dkhan> hello...
[10:39] <zorglu_> this channel apparently died between sep06 and now
[10:40] <dkhan> so where can us noobs get help now
[10:41] <jcmeliton> I find it KDirStat
[10:41] <intelikey> !wifi | dkhan
[10:41] <ubotu> dkhan: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:41] <intelikey> !network
[10:41] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:41] <zorglu_> dkhan: dunno
[10:41] <zorglu_> !dbus
[10:42] <ubotu> dbus: simple interprocess messaging system. In component main, is optional. Version 0.93-0ubuntu3.1 (edgy), package size 312 kB, installed size 660 kB
[10:42] <zorglu_> hehe :)
[10:42] <zorglu_> the simple make me think of the snmp simple :)
[10:42] <intelikey> !botsnack
[10:42] <ubotu> Yum!
[10:42] <dkhan> ubotu how do i edit the    boot options so my dell xps won't ffffreeze on live boot
[10:42] <mike__> is it safe to upgrade to fiesty? or its still a buggy version?
[10:43] <intelikey> !bot | dkhan
[10:43] <ubotu> dkhan: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:43] <zorglu_> mike__: it is develepoement so expect bug
[10:44] <intelikey> !fiesty | mike__
[10:44] <ubotu> mike__: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[10:44] <mike__> zorglu: thanx ill tire it out
[10:47] <zorglu_> !edgy
[10:47] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[10:47] <zorglu_> the edgy upgrade page is gnome only
[10:47] <intelikey> dkhan but as per the question how to edit the boot options,  sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:47] <zorglu_> and dont recommend apt-get, while the page for kubuntu do use apt-get :)
[10:49] <intelikey> zorglu_ clean install is probably less problematic on that upgrade.
[10:49] <intelikey> !upgrade
[10:49] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[10:49] <zorglu_> intelikey: yep but i use this box :)
[10:50] <zorglu_> intelikey: this page give stuff about apt-get, and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades this one say 'apt-get is dangerous'
[10:50] <intelikey> the upgrade from dapper to edgy is dangerous.
[10:50] <intelikey> your point ?
[10:50] <larson9999> i upgraded and it went smoothly.  but clean install seems to be the prevailing wisdom.  actually, i did a clean install on a different machine and lots of things changed i couldn't figure out to get back.  like things in various system setup tools
[10:51] <zorglu_> ah ok
[10:51] <zorglu_> ah ok i was under the impression it was supported to upgrade
[10:51] <larson9999> i always do an upgrade.  see how it goes and then if i don't like it do a clean install.  but i have plenty of time :)
[10:52] <zorglu_> is the issue will be fixed for edgy->feisty ?
[10:52] <intelikey> technally it is supported.
[10:52] <intelikey> it's also been a common topic of discussion in here  "help i upgraded and now nothing works"   kind of thing.
[10:53] <larson9999> intelikey: but id 'dangerous' the right word?
[10:53] <intelikey> edgy to feisty will be smoother yes it's a minor upgrade dapper to edgy is a major upgrade.
[10:53] <zorglu_> so the issue will be fixed for edgy->feisty ?
[10:54] <zorglu_> hmm ok so i will keep dapper :)
[10:54] <zorglu_> a full install is like 3-5 day of work :)
[10:54] <intelikey> it's not an "issue"  it's lots of little issues combined into a huge bug.
[10:54] <zorglu_> having other disk etc...
[10:54] <zorglu_> hehe :)
[10:55] <zorglu_> well some considere being dangerous to upgrade as an issue :)
[10:56] <intelikey> it's a very dangerous thing for me to start typing in a console ....
[10:56] <intelikey> and extreemly dangerous if it's a root console  :)
[10:57] <zorglu_> oh i see
[10:57] <zorglu_> ok where can i get info about upgrading ?
[10:57] <larson9999> thing is, it takes about the same to clean install as upgrade.  anyway, i'm here to tell you this time around i upgraded vs clean installed 3 out of 4 machines.  and the one i'm the least happy with is the clean install.
[10:57] <intelikey> did you not see the links ubotu posted ?
[10:57] <zorglu_> i did
[10:57] <zorglu_> pfff
[10:58] <zorglu_> ok anybody else have an answer :)
[10:58] <zorglu_> i mean i guess im not the only one who want/wanted to upgrade from dapper/edgy
[10:59] <orient2000> type in console sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:59] <intelikey> larson9999 that's fine.   just wondering one thing though,   are you going to help zorglu_ get dpkg fixed when it breaks in the middle of the upgrade ?
[10:59] <intelikey> or do i have to do that ?
[10:59] <larson9999> lol.  zorglu_ DON'T upgrade!!!!
[11:00] <zorglu_> orient2000: well the official doc say 'apt-get is dangerous'
[11:00] <zorglu_> !edgy
[11:00] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[11:00] <zorglu_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades <- this one
[11:00] <intelikey> na man go ahead.   somebody here will help you   IF it breaks.
[11:00] <lea74> Bonjour
[11:00] <orient2000> I use it all the time
[11:00] <lea74> Puis je vous pauser quelques questions btes ^^"
[11:00] <zorglu_> orient2000: how many time did it broke your install ?
[11:01] <zorglu_> lea74: cest un cahnnel en anglais seulement
[11:01] <zorglu_> !fr | lea74
[11:01] <ubotu> lea74: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:02] <seven11> what was the command for a looked /var/lib/dpkg/lock  ?
[11:02] <intelikey> sudo dpkg --congifure -a
[11:02] <intelikey> ?
[11:02] <zorglu_> !adept-crash-fix
[11:02] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and you're left with a locked database, try typing this in a terminal (such as Konsole):  "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock ; sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[11:02] <seven11> thanks
[11:03] <orient2000> maybe you can try sudo apt-get install -f
[11:03] <auser> hello
[11:04] <intelikey> orient2000 that's unaffective against /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[11:04] <larson9999> zorglu_ if you're not comfortable fixing your broken system, you really should clean install.  no two ways about it.
[11:04] <zorglu_> larson9999: well i need to keep the box running, i use it everyday
[11:04] <auser> when i try to send a mail with telnet telnet says to me relayng not allowed, please use smtp auth
[11:05] <auser> why?
[11:05] <intelikey> zorglu_ man just update the sources.list and do the upgrade thang ...
[11:05] <zorglu_> larson9999: so i guess i will do a clean install, but it takes a LOT more time. like 3-5 days. using another partition etc... moving my own code+data etc...
[11:06] <intelikey> ooop larson9999
[11:06] <zorglu_> intelikey: unfortunatly all show me this will break my box and i cant have that
[11:06] <waylandbill> is there resume capability for scp/sftp?
[11:06] <intelikey> if you can't have it in a broken state.  don't change it.
[11:06] <intelikey> "if it aint broke, don't fix it or it will be,"
[11:07] <larson9999> zorglu_: if you know how to do a clean install while your system is still running, you're savvy enough to handle the couple of things that 'break' doing an upgrade.  nothing you can't fix by a google and failsafe mode.
[11:07] <waylandbill> right. if it isn't broken or you aren't putting in a feature that is mandatory, don't mess with it
[11:08] <larson9999> zorglu_: you're personal machine and you can't have ANY downtime?
[11:08] <zorglu_> larson9999: yep but while i do google and co, my box is no more running :)
[11:08] <zorglu_> larson9999: nope, i can spend a full day doing the update
[11:08] <zorglu_> larson9999: but 1 week is not acceptable
[11:08] <waylandbill> I have one that runs all the time and another that I toy with.
[11:09] <intelikey> waylandbill the man page doesn't mention anything about continuing an scp
[11:09] <larson9999> zorglu_: i doubt this will take you half a day.  i go back to:  if you know how to do a clean install while your system is still running, you're savvy enough to handle the couple of things that 'break' doing an upgrade.  nothing you can't fix by a google and failsafe mode.
[11:09] <waylandbill> intelikey: yeah. I looked there first. :-/
[11:10] <zorglu_> larson9999: ok thanks for the info. i guess i have to think more before deciding
[11:10] <auser> what menas please use smtp auth?
[11:10] <intelikey> zorglu_ just do it.
[11:10] <intelikey> you know you want to
[11:10] <intelikey> go ahead
[11:10] <zorglu_> sure
[11:11] <intelikey> what have you got to loose
[11:11] <waylandbill> not much to think about. if you cannot devote any time to fix a broken system, don't take action that may break it. seems pretty cut and dry.
[11:11] <larson9999> zorglu_: but i think the LTS is for people running spam servers who can't afford more than a day's downtime.  i'd stick with it
[11:11] <intelikey> besides i wont be in here to hear how much you hate me....
[11:11] <intelikey> :)
[11:11] <waylandbill> auser: authenticated smtp mode. you must give username and password to use the server
[11:12] <intelikey> spam servers ?
[11:12] <waylandbill> LOL
[11:12] <larson9999> or mp3 servers.  i'm not the nefarious type so i don't know the lingo :)
[11:13] <intelikey> will i need LAMP ?
[11:13] <intelikey> or just sendmail ?
[11:14] <intelikey> ok i'll quit.
[11:14] <waylandbill> thinking out loud: if an ISP required smtp auth, I'm sure they'd tell that in the setup instructions, wouldn't they?
[11:15] <intelikey> most require  CHAP
[11:15] <intelikey> chaps my hide.
[11:15] <intelikey> waylandbill what isp is it ?
[11:15] <larson9999> waylandbill: nah, they'd just give you a windows cd that set it up and hand up when you told them you were running linux
[11:15] <intelikey> or what's their home page ?
[11:15] <larson9999> s/hand/hang
[11:16] <intelikey> des-quatro that
[11:17] <larson9999> it's fun pretending your running windows when talking to customer service folks
[11:19] <intelikey> waylandbill must have stopped thinking...
[11:20] <mervteck> hey guys
[11:20] <intelikey> mervteck
[11:20] <mervteck> anyone here tried airsnort?
[11:21] <intelikey> airsnort - WLAN sniffer
[11:21] <mervteck> aye
[11:21] <intelikey> not having wireless    ! i
[11:22] <mervteck> are we allowed to talk about things liek airsnort in here?e
[11:22] <intelikey> heh snort depends on cron    how eval.
[11:23] <intelikey> general disscution is in #*ubuntu-offtopic help/support discussion in here.
[11:23] <mervteck> well i need help getting airsnort to work XD i cant even get ark to read it to unpack it =
[11:23] <mervteck> =\
[11:25] <mervteck> oh wate i see why!
[11:25] <waylandbill> oh.. it wasn't for me. someone asked what smtp-was.
[11:25] <waylandbill> smtp-auth
[11:25] <intelikey> ark ?   unpack ?    it's in the repos...  use the package manager.
[11:25] <waylandbill> I go to get a cup of coffee and I get many messages. lol
[11:25] <mervteck> it was a corrupted download
[11:25] <mervteck> i fixed it now though
[11:25] <intelikey> !airsnort
[11:25] <ubotu> airsnort: WLAN sniffer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.7e-1.1 (edgy), package size 49 kB, installed size 180 kB
[11:26] <mervteck> http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?group_id=33358&use_mirror=umn&filename=airsnort-0.2.7e.tar.gz&36682926 download link ^^
[11:28] <intelikey> sorry. unless you can give me a good reason that the one in the repos is not sufficient and you need the source, i have no interest in helping you with it.
[11:28] <mervteck>  hell if i know an idiot?
[11:29] <mervteck> oops sorry on taht type
[11:29] <mervteck> sharing a kb between 3 pc's >.<
[11:29] <intelikey> call me lazy, call me hard nosed, just dont call me for support that isn't needed.
[11:30] <mervteck> oh and fyi the channel u gave me dont exist
[11:30] <waylandbill> the * was a wildcard, not a character in the channel name
[11:31] <intelikey> i gave you a list of channels.   #ubuntu-offtopic #kubuntu-offtopic #xubuntu-offtopic #edubuntu-offtopic
[11:31] <intelikey> * == all chars.
[11:31] <intelikey> . or ? == any single char depending on the language.
[11:32] <intelikey> exactly waylandbill
[11:32] <mervteck> u run wow in window?
[11:32] <mervteck> oi!
[11:32] <mervteck> damn kb
[11:37] <crazy_bus> Can the kubuntu livecd only install with ext3?  Because even though I've reinstalled kubuntu edgy 3 times since the problem started.  Files have being dissapearing off my / partion.  And then fsck tells me about deleted inodes
[11:38] <waylandbill> crazy_bus: I'd check the hdd for bad sectors.
[11:39] <crazy_bus> I've run the knoppix livecd and run fsck -c twice after files have gone missing
[11:39] <intelikey> crazy_bus eeek.   badblocks /dev/hda     from the liveCD
[11:40] <crazy_bus> intelikey: Is that a command to type when loading the livecd?
[11:40] <intelikey> and if it's clean.  maybe mount as ext2 see if the journal is the culpret
[11:41] <crazy_bus> do I type this in the livecd or recovery mode?        badblocks /dev/hda
[11:41] <intelikey> no from the running live CD
[11:41] <intelikey> crazy_bus and what does -c do on the knoppix version of fsck ?
[11:42] <crazy_bus> It searches for badblocks
[11:42] <intelikey> live CD
[11:42] <intelikey> not a good idea to badblocks the root fs.
[11:43] <crazy_bus> So I should load the livecd and then badblocks the rootfs?
[11:43] <intelikey> really ?   hmmm wonder why that switch is not mentioned in the man page of the ubuntu version...
[11:44] <crazy_bus> it's not mentioned in the man page of the knoppix version either.  But when you type fsck (then a incorrect name) it comes up with usage details
[11:44] <intelikey> the hd.
[11:45] <intelikey> well -c is covered in e2fsck   that's what it's printing the help from  not the script "fsck"  i guess.
[11:46] <crazy_bus> does it matter which livecd I run from?
[11:46] <intelikey> and if you have checked it and found nothing.   i'd say skip the journal for a while and see if that's the corrupting point.
[11:47] <intelikey> crazy_bus no not really.   but if you "and you said you have" already done that....
[11:47] <crazy_bus> can kubuntu livecd install to journals other than ext3?  And if so what is the second best one to install? ext2,  xfs?
[11:48] <_StefanS_> crazy_bus: just keep the default ext3. Nothing better at the moment
[11:48] <intelikey> ext3 is ext2 +a journal  reiserfs might be another acceptable choice.
[11:48] <crazy_bus> can you explain it more simply? :)
[11:49] <Steven_M> I type hibernate into my console, but it says command not found
[11:49] <_StefanS_> crazy_bus: reiserfs stinks (IMHO).. can't count how many who has lost files because of the experimental state it has always been in
[11:49] <waylandbill> ext3 is probably the best bet
[11:49] <intelikey> _StefanS_ i also had a problem with ext3,  dropped the journal and the problem has not recured.
[11:49] <crazy_bus> how do you drop the journal?
[11:49] <intelikey> mount as ext2
[11:50] <_StefanS_> intelikey: err.. I never anyone that had problems with ext3. What was wrong ?
[11:50] <intelikey> that prevents the journal from being used.
[11:50] <_StefanS_> never heard
[11:51] <intelikey> _StefanS_ it rm'd some files for no reason and then wrote some code to the superblock that crashed everything.  i used the second superblock to mount and rebuilt the first superblock then set to mount as ext2 and no more issue.
[11:51] <intelikey> i really don't know why it did it...
[11:52] <_StefanS_> neither do I :)
[11:52] <intelikey> and yes i checked the drive.  no bad blocks
[11:52] <_StefanS_> don't mess so much with it hehe
[11:52] <crazy_bus> the strange thing is that my /home partition never loses files while / does
[11:52] <intelikey> had it happen on two different drives. at near the same time.
[11:52] <intelikey> crazy_bus yep.
[11:53] <crazy_bus> how do you make the partition mount as ext2?
[11:53] <intelikey> you set the options in the fstab
[11:53] <_StefanS_> crazy_bus: change /etc/fstab to ext2 instead of ext3
[11:53] <_StefanS_> crazy_bus: listen to intelikey :)
[11:54] <crazy_bus> do you recommend I change both my / partition which is losing files and my /home which isn't over?
[11:57] <crazy_bus> i.e is it better to switch the partition which hasn't being losing files over to ext2 to be safe.  Or is it better to keep it with ext3?
[11:58] <johnthejocke> hi all
[12:01] <crazy_bus> have my helpers left? :)
[12:04] <intelikey> !mozilla-thunderbird
[12:04] <ubotu> mozilla-thunderbird: Mozilla Thunderbird standalone mail client. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.0.9-0ubuntu0.6.10 (edgy), package size 10504 kB, installed size 29596 kB
[12:04] <crazy_bus> is it better to switch the partition which hasn't being losing files over to ext2 to be safe.  Or is it better to keep it with ext3?
[12:04] <intelikey> heh standalone mail client   10m dl.
[12:05] <intelikey> 30m installed.
[12:05] <crazy_bus> !ext3
[12:05] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[12:05] <intelikey> that's stupid.
[12:05] <waylandbill> crazy_bus: best to do a backup to removable media. ;-)
[12:06] <crazy_bus> I don't have enough removable media to backup too.
[12:06] <chuen> Hi . Can someone help me out with a some location weirdness?
[12:06] <crazy_bus> !gnome
[12:06] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[12:06] <chuen> It may be 'finger trouble', but a couple of docs I had on my desktop have somehow ended up in the .enacs directroy.
[12:07] <intelikey> ^ You can read/write from Windows to ext3 ^ not totally acurate. you read/write to ext2 from windows... it doesn't touch the journal.
[12:07] <chuen> .emacs.
[12:07] <chuen> Ecept .... they are there according to a file search, but not when I look in the directory.
[12:08] <waylandbill> crazy_bus: oh no. I'd give you a DVD-RW if I was sitting next to you. :)
[12:08] <crazy_bus> intelikey: should I change the partition which has not being having problems over to ext2 to?
[12:09] <intelikey> crazy_bus as long as you are not having any trubble. i wouldn't bother.
[12:09] <crazy_bus> waylandbill: my personal files are on a partition which hasn't had any problems.  It's just my system files that go missing :)  And I'm not sure how to back those up
[12:10] <waylandbill> crazy_bus: remember that removing the journal could cause crashes to nuke files.
[12:10] <waylandbill> crashes=system hang or reboot.
[12:10] <intelikey> many people using *ubuntu on ext3 without any "known" trubble with it.  so if it's not broke, don't fix it.   if it is broke, ...
[12:10] <crazy_bus> I get system hangs all the time with the binary nvidia drivers :)
[12:10] <waylandbill> :-O
[12:11] <waylandbill> I get them occassionally with ati binary. I don't know why I even run it. :-)
[12:11] <waylandbill> :q
[12:11] <waylandbill> oops
[12:11] <intelikey> waylandbill only a hard lockup while a write was in progress.  and that would hose things with or without the journal.
[12:11] <crazy_bus> I need to run the binaries to play back animations in Blender
[12:12] <waylandbill> intelikey: but the journal could be replayed
[12:12] <intelikey> the fs will be checked if it's unclean     </shrugs>
[12:13] <intelikey> waylandbill i'm not trying to argue with you on that.  the idea is sound.   in practice though. i personally have had more trubble on ext3 than ext2.
[12:14] <chuen> Anyone help pls?
[12:14] <crazy_bus> Thanks everyone for all your help.  I'd better reboot to the livecd and reinstall (as some system files got deleted)
[12:14] <intelikey> on ubuntu systems.  ^
[12:14] <waylandbill> intelikey: I don't doubt ya.
[12:15] <crazy_bus> now I just have to hope that with nvidia drivers causing x to freeze quite often, files won't get broken.
[12:15] <vprints> hey
[12:16] <vprints> does anybody know when can we start translating feisty in launchpad?
[12:16] <intelikey> chuen your plee seems to parallel the conversation about fs problems.  what fs is that ?
[12:17] <Jucato> s/plee/plea
[12:17] <intelikey> that too
[12:17] <intelikey> flee ?
[12:17] <Jucato> flea
[12:17] <Jucato> lol
[12:17] <intelikey> that's a bug
[12:18] <intelikey> what do you expect out of a guy that only finished 6th grade.
[12:20] <intelikey>   " as Jucato watches intelikey talk to himself again..."
[12:21] <intelikey> mem=(`cat /proc/meminfo | tr -d "[A-z]  :" | tr "\n" " " | cut -d' ' -f-4`)
[12:21] <intelikey> memused="$((( ${mem[0] } - ${mem[1] } - ${mem[2] } - ${mem[3] } ) / 1024))"
[12:21] <intelikey> memtotal="$(( ${mem[0] } / 1024))"
[12:21] <intelikey> memper="$((( $memused * 100 ) / $memtotal ))"
[12:21] <intelikey> echo "Mem usage: $memused/$memtotal MB ($memper%)"
[12:23] <vprints> eestlasi?
[12:27] <crazy_bus> I'm reinstalling off the livecd.  Should I select format to ext3 then when everythings installed change the option in fstab?  Or should I format it to ext2?
[12:29] <waylandbill> crazy_bus: either way will work.
[12:29] <crazy_bus> which way do you recommend?
[12:29] <waylandbill> it's going to be ext2, so go ahead and set it to ext2 from the start.
[12:31] <larson9999> interesting.  6th grade is what finished me.
[12:33] <crazy_bus> Hmmm.  Mabey I shouldn't have formatted it to ext2.  Now it's telling me  No root filesystem.      What should I do?
[12:33] <kb3> hello every one
[12:34] <waylandbill> crazy_bus: this the desktop cd or alterate?
[12:34] <crazy_bus> desktop cd
[12:36] <crazy_bus> any idea on what I should do waylandbill?
[12:36] <Pupeno> Hello.
[12:36] <Pupeno> I am trying to print a PDF that is landscape, but KPDF doesn't let me set the paper on landscape, so, it only prints one part of it. How can I print it? (http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-download_wiki_attachment.php?attId=14)
[12:37] <waylandbill> try entering the mount point again.
[12:37] <crazy_bus> what do you mean?
[12:38] <waylandbill> didn't it ask you to specify your mount points?
[12:39] <crazy_bus> yes.  I changed the one in question to /
[12:39] <waylandbill> it's possible the backend code didn't get that right. try performing it again is what I mean
[12:40] <crazy_bus> format it again?  or change it to / again?
[12:40] <waylandbill> change it to / again.
[12:41] <waylandbill> it probably formatted just fine.
[12:41] <jeroenvrp> what is the easiest method to change the dot (.) on my keypud/nupad to a comma (,)?!
[12:41] <jeroenvrp>  keypad/numpad that is
[12:41] <crazy_bus> I wen't backwards and forwards many times and changed it to / again many times but it wouldn't work.
[12:41] <crazy_bus> I'll just format to ext3 again and change the fstab when its all installed
[12:42] <waylandbill> crazy_bus: good idea.
[12:43] <crazy_bus> oh dear.  I formatted to ext3 got up to the final screen.  Read the format report and decided to press back to double check what was being formatted.  Unfortunaltly that crashed the installed
[12:44] <waylandbill> crazy_bus: have you run a memtest on this system lately?
[12:45] <crazy_bus> what's a memtest for?
[12:45] <Lynoure> it tests whether the memory seems to be broken.
[12:45] <crazy_bus> why do you think my memory is broken?
[12:45] <waylandbill> you're having trouble on things that shouldn't be giving you trouble. I'm curious if your hardware is really the root of it.
[12:46] <Lynoure> crazy_bus: me? what?
[12:46] <waylandbill> Lynoure: he meant me
[12:46] <crazy_bus> qtparted is what caused the installer to crash
[12:46] <jeroenvrp> what is the easiest method to change the dot (.) on my keypad/numpad to a comma (,)?!
[12:46] <eeos> hi there.
[12:47] <eeos> has anyone ever used jack server on kubuntu?
[12:47] <crazy_bus> waylandbill: what are the chances my memory is broken and how do I run memtest?
[12:48] <waylandbill> wow. konversation dissappeared when I was typing.
[12:48] <waylandbill> crazy_bus: memtest is one of the options installed in the grub menu.
[12:48] <crazy_bus> I thought that checked the cd for defects?
[12:49] <waylandbill> It's not a large possibility that you have memory problems.
[12:49] <waylandbill> crazy_bus: you are thinking media check
[12:50] <Pupeno> no idea how to print it? maybe with some other program?
[12:50] <crazy_bus> what makes you think I have memory problems?
[12:52] <waylandbill> you're having crashes and lost files without bad hdd blocks. I could be wrong though.
[12:53] <crazy_bus> the crashes have to do with silly binary nvidia drivers
[12:53] <crazy_bus> at least they did for a few things causing crashes that I tried to debug
[12:54] <waylandbill> might not hurt to make sure some weekend when you're not using the system to check it anyway. my opinion fwiw.
[12:57] <crazy_bus> I'll try and check after kubuntu finishes installing
[12:59] <waylandbill> crazy_bus: even if it turns out that I'm wrong, you'll know that part of the hardware is functioning good. :-)
[12:59] <chuen> Hi. Can someone help me out with some files that have myserioulsy ended up in a folder - but which I can't access pls?
[12:59] <waylandbill> chuen: what sort of files showed up?
[01:00] <chuen> waylandbill: Well, it could hev been 'finger trouble', but they were on my desktop and are now in a dir called .emacs.
[01:00] <chuen> waylandbill: Problem is when I try to copy them anywhere I get 'files do not exist'!
[01:00] <chuen> They are PDF's
[01:01] <devin_> can someone tell me if this fstab looks right? looks alil abnormal to me  http://pastebin.com/873495
[01:01] <waylandbill> how are you trying to copy them, from within konqueror?
[01:01] <chuen> waylandbill: Sorry that should be '.emacs.d'
[01:01] <chuen> waylandbill: Yes.
[01:02] <chuen> waylandbill: They show up on file serach, but when I open that dir, they are not there.
[01:02] <waylandbill> if you look at their permissions, do you have enough access to write to them?
[01:02] <waylandbill> oh
[01:03] <chuen> waylandbill: Yes (as owner)
[01:03] <waylandbill> what did you use to search for them?
[01:04] <chuen> waylandbill: Find Files/Folders
[01:04] <waylandbill> and you are trying to copy them from in the find files/folders dialog?
[01:05] <chuen> waylandbill: Yes.
[01:06] <waylandbill> if you look in a konsole session, are they in that location?
[01:08] <chuen> wayland:bill: Do you mean navigate to that directory using cmd line?
[01:09] <waylandbill> correct
[01:10] <chuen> waylandbill: Mmm. No they aren't. Just a folder called auto-save list.
[01:10] <waylandbill> I wonder if the find files dialog is using 'locate'.
[01:11] <waylandbill> chuen: did you have the "use files index" selected in the find files/folders?
[01:12] <chuen> waylandbill: No.
[01:13] <waylandbill> interesting. well. they are not there, so that's why you got the error when trying to copy them.
[01:14] <chuen> waylandbill: OK, well, I've no idea why they shoudl show up there. Fortunaetly I think I can get hold of those files from extternal sources.
[01:14] <chuen> waylandbill: Thx for your help.
[01:14] <waylandbill> chuen: my guess was it was using the locate database to find the files and it was outdated.
[01:14] <frojnd> !sshd
[01:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sshd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:15] <waylandbill> not sure since the file index box wasn't checked.
[01:15] <chuen> waylandbill: Maybe I *did* accidentally bin them.
[01:15] <chuen> waylandbill: Althught they are both files that I would have not done!
[01:15] <waylandbill> chuen: well, good luck. hopefully you can fetch them again from somewhere.
[01:16] <frojnd> !citrix
[01:16] <ubotu> For help configuring the Citrix ICA Client, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CitrixICAClientHowTo
[01:16] <chuen> waylandbill: Ah, Ok I've found them (not through serach) They *are* where I put them (I remember now) in a folder I created called 'docuents'
[01:17] <chuen> waylandbill: But they didn't show up on the search!!
[01:17] <waylandbill> chuen.. ok.. it must be using locate. If you do 'sudo updatedb' from the command line, the database should be updated
[01:18] <waylandbill> chuen: it's usually updated from cron each day, so it can get out of date.
[01:18] <eeos> has anyone ever used the jack sound server on kubuntu? I cannot start it properly.
[01:19] <waylandbill> I'm not looking at KFind's code, so that's not a 100% known certainty. best guess. :-)
[01:19] <chuen> waylandbill: I'll do that - thanks again. I've lerned something new (as I do each day regarding Linux!!)
[01:24] <waylandbill> eeos: doesn't jack support have to be compiled into the kde sound system to use jack?
[01:26] <eeos> waylandbill I thought you could compile more than one server support.
[01:27] <eeos> waylandbill and then chose. But cannot find the option on kubuntu.
[01:31] <vprints> eestlasi?
[01:31] <waylandbill> eeos: there is support for more than one (look in the advanced tab) but I don't know whether jack was one that kubuntu enabled during building
[01:41] <eeos> waylandbill yes, I got a look and the answer is there is not. so why package jackit in the repository, very frustrating.
[01:44] <waylandbill> eeos: could be it was brought over from debian?
[01:45] <eeos> waylandbill I have no idea.
[01:46] <eeos> anyway, I have to go. Will catch up with you later! thanks for your help.
[01:46] <houi_> hi, i want to install kubunut and selcted manual partitioning, i have a swap, a root / reiserfs and a /home reiserfs, if i click on next it says no root partition
[01:48] <sorush21> I can't see all my features of gmail in konqeror
[01:51] <waylandbill> sorush21: you need to change browser identification for gmail.
[01:54] <waylandbill> sorush21: Settings, Configure Konq, Browser Id, New, mail.google.com, firefox (any version) should make it perform better.
[01:55] <supos> How do I change the keyboard layout used by the login manager?
[01:55] <sorush21> waylandbill: thanks
[01:55] <sorush21> I wish this could be automatic
[02:03] <karmikaze> !wireless
[02:03] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:05] <karmikaze> hi Jucato
[02:07] <Jucato> hello
[02:07] <karmikaze> my wireless connection at home has dissapeared D:
[02:08] <Jucato> :(
[02:08] <karmikaze> im just hoping someone gets home after work and resets their router...
[02:08] <karmikaze> :P
[02:13] <Jucato> !pl
[02:13] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[02:15] <RoTfLaStC> hi to all
[02:16] <RoTfLaStC> orca troia
[02:25] <giannis> my emacs runs from the terminal only and not as individual program.any solution?
[02:39] <stevennn> anyone know of some good digital cameras in the 300-400 dollar range?
[02:41] <Lynoure> stevennn: Check the photo sites, e.g. http://www.dpreview.com/
[02:41] <crazy_bus> There sure are alot of updates to install when you reinstall kubuntu
[02:51] <gandalf__> hallo
[03:07] <ScarFreewill> mysql-admin is freezing on my pc if i click on "User Administration"
[03:10] <blue|palm> Hey, does anybody have any experience in using the svn version of mplayer?
[03:17] <blue|palm> !apt-fix
[03:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:17] <blue|palm> !aptfix
[03:17] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[03:20] <lorenzo> Hi
[03:21] <stdin> hi
[03:21] <BluesKaj> howdy all:0
[03:22] <stdin> hey BluesKaj :)
[03:23] <blue|palm> Hey, can anybody tell me where to get the qt headers and lib (which package)
[03:24] <BluesKaj> Hi stdin ,the st ktorrent 2.03 client doesn't connect as well as the newer 2.1 vers, but I get an error message after it crashes ..to do with the Qt library
[03:24] <Ippatsu> blue|palm: libqt*-headers
[03:25] <blue|palm> lppatsu: thank you, is it on the standard repo's ?
[03:25] <BluesKaj> st = standard
[03:25] <stdin> !info libqt3-headers
[03:25] <ubotu> libqt3-headers: Qt3 header files. In component main, is optional. Version 3:3.3.6-3ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 350 kB, installed size 2476 kB
[03:25] <stdin> BluesKaj: hmm, that on edgy?
[03:25] <BluesKaj> yes stdin
[03:26] <[StingRay] > Hi stdin, :)
[03:26] <stdin> hay [StingRay]  :)
[03:26] <stdin> BluesKaj: what is the message you get ?
[03:27] <BluesKaj> std , I'll have to reinstall the 2.1 vers first ..so it'll be a few mins before i post it in pastebin
[03:29] <animimotus> in konqueror it doesn't exist no more the contextual menu for ark ? I have attempt to toggle it in ark preference
[03:29] <blue|palm> can somebody help me here with the compilation of the svn mplayer? or should i go elsewhere?
[03:30] <stdin> blue|palm: maybe try in #mplayer and/or #mplayerdev
[03:30] <BluesKaj> stdin, oops ..it works now :)
[03:31] <stdin> BluesKaj: heh, strange, maybe you did something to please the linux gods :P
[03:31] <paolo___> hi. if i launch op1 && op2 && op3, is there a mechanism to rollback if op3 fails? thnks
[03:32] <BluesKaj> I was fooling with the Qt libraries last night
[03:32] <hatta> did you get to second base?
[03:32] <BluesKaj> trying to reinstall the Qt3
[03:32] <Tm_T> Meh, I just started messing with wlan.
[03:33] <Tm_T> New area to me.
[03:37] <BluesKaj> A simple question that has me puzzled ..when trying to launch Adept or Synaptic or even kate for that matter , it can take up to 3 tries before the paswor request box pops up ...any ideas ?
[03:37] <BluesKaj> err password
[03:38] <BluesKaj> or is it just the lazy linux gods taking a nap :)
[03:39] <stdin> never happened to me, but maybe a problem with kdesud ?
[03:39] <toxidas> hi all
[03:39] <waylandbill> BluesKaj: the hamsters in the box asleep on the wheel more likely. ;-)
[03:40] <darkserver3> hi
[03:40] <darkserver3> how are everybody??
[03:40] <toxidas> i want to isall webmin on ubuntu server but keeps asking about some perl packages and i can't find in repo's any comments?
[03:40] <waylandbill> toxidas: which package is it looking for?
[03:41] <darkserver3> well you can download the source and compilre
[03:41] <stdin> just fyi, webmin isn't really supported anymore
[03:41] <toxidas> ssleay
[03:41] <stdin> (on ubuntu)
[03:41] <toxidas> and some md5 pkges
[03:41] <waylandbill> packages or perl cpan modules?
[03:41] <toxidas> wha can use instead?
[03:42] <Jucato> !webmin
[03:42] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[03:42] <Jucato> hm.. not very informative
[03:42] <toxidas> ok thanx any alternatives to webmin?
[03:42] <waylandbill> :) right to the point tho
[03:42] <stdin> maybe libnet-ssleay-perl and libcrypt-ssleay-perl
[03:42] <toxidas> yes those packages
[03:42] <[StingRay] > stdin, I found a small but irritating problem with wine and cyrillic kbd layout. Do you have wine on your system?
[03:43] <toxidas> i wantto configure opnldap how can i easly do dtat
[03:43] <darkserver3> ummm, maybe you know how can i reconfig my swap partition, without reinstall
[03:43] <toxidas> any sofware to configure ldap?
[03:43] <stdin> [StingRay] : I have it atm, I was trying to use a small piece of software (unsuccessfully), but yeah I have it
[03:43] <zorglu_> !adept-crash-fix
[03:43] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and you're left with a locked database, try typing this in a terminal (such as Konsole):  "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock ; sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[03:44] <waylandbill> toxidas: there are webmin alternatives on the webmin page on wikipedia.
[03:44] <toxidas> thanx
[03:44] <waylandbill> toxidas: just so  you know, I've not used any of them, but I've seen cPanel in action.
[03:44] <toxidas> i'll check those
[03:44] <botinha> \quit
[03:45] <[StingRay] > stdin, add bg -variant phonetic from keyboard layouts. Then start "LC_ALL=bg_BG.UTF-8 notepad" and try to write one of the following (,/;')
[03:46] <[StingRay] > I tested this on slack and I think it is a problem of wine...stdin
[03:46] <zorglu_> apt-get -u dist-upgrade | grep ^' ' | xargs apt-get -y install <- from https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade this command create a deadlock on the  /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[03:46] <toxidas> cpanel i good i think i'll tr that too
[03:47] <darkserver3> somebody know something about what can i do??
[03:47] <waylandbill> toxidas: it's a good program, but I have no idea on if it is easy or not to get up and running.
[03:49] <darkserver3> ummm i have some questiojn please
[03:49] <waylandbill> if kdevelop crashes one more time, I'll punch the screen. :-O
[03:49] <darkserver3> 524,152 KB means 524 mb???
[03:49] <waylandbill> pretty close
[03:50] <zorglu_> waylandbill: i never succeed to get it working
[03:50] <lenaud01> there a way to
[03:50] <stdin> [StingRay] : I get a lot of " err:keyboard:X11DRV_ToUnicodeEx (virtKey=E9,scanCode=64,keycode=1C,state=10)" and "err:keyboard:X11DRV_ToUnicodeEx Please report: no char for keysym 06D4 (Cyrillic_te) :
[03:50] <waylandbill> it was fine until I moved to 3.4.0
[03:50] <lenaud01> there a way to shut it off for it does not ask for the cd when I try to install new packages?
[03:50] <zorglu_> waylandbill: ah ok. i tried it like 3 time and everytime it cores like every 2min. no way i put my source on this :)
[03:51] <[StingRay] > stdin, what is the actual output in notepad?
[03:51] <waylandbill> zorglu_: the new qmake support looks good. It'll probably be nice at 3.4.2. :-D
[03:51] <stdin> [StingRay] : the only thing I can type in notepad is numbers and spaces
[03:51] <zorglu_> waylandbill: ok, i will retry it then :)
[03:52] <animimotus> in kde 3.5.6 do you have already the contextual menu for ark ? (compress, decompress...)
[03:52] <[StingRay] > stdin, did you try the LC_ALL?
[03:52] <zorglu_> waylandbill: meanwhile i use eclipse. not perfect at all for cpp but im familiar to it :)
[03:52] <Jucato> animimotus: it should be there by default
[03:52] <Ingmar^> I seem to have problems with the ubuntu livecd: whenever I try to partition, or use the install on the desktop, it says "Disc not found" anyone able to help ?
[03:52] <stdin> [StingRay] : yeah, I ran "LC_ALL=bg_BG.UTF-8 notepad"
[03:52] <lenaud01> anyone know answer for my qustion?
[03:53] <[StingRay] > :(, stdin, very strange...all works except for these four characters for me.
[03:53] <animimotus> Jucato: it should, yes, it worked, but now no. For me. And for you ?
[03:53] <Jucato> animimotus: working here
[03:53] <animimotus> kubuntu ?
[03:53] <[StingRay] > I will not bother you with this, I guess it is something with the locale, stdin.
[03:53] <Jucato> animimotus: we are in #kubuntu :D
[03:53] <animimotus> :)
[03:54] <zorglu_> lenaud01: removede the cd from the /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[03:54] <waylandbill> darkserver3: just under 512MB
[03:54] <raven> So... is there a #ubuntu ? =D
[03:54] <Jucato> and this is a fresh install, and fresh upgrade to KDE 3.5.6
[03:54] <stdin> [StingRay] : it seems to work in konversation, but not in notepad
[03:54] <Jucato> raven: in never, neverland :)
[03:54] <Jucato> j/k. of course there is :P
[03:54] <animimotus> Jucato: well... I don't understand why I have lost my menu :)
[03:54] <Jucato> !upgrade | zorglu_
[03:54] <ubotu> zorglu_: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[03:55] <Jucato> zorglu_: good luck! cross your toes too :)
[03:55] <[StingRay] > stdin, try just "notepad" or "LC_ALL=bg_BG.CP1251 notepad"
[03:55] <zorglu_> Jucato: well this page is obsolete :)
[03:55] <animimotus> Jucato: oh a new installation...
[03:55] <zorglu_> apt-get -u dist-upgrade | grep ^' ' | xargs apt-get -y install <- from https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade this command create a deadlock on the  /var/lib/dpkg/lock Jucato
[03:55] <michaelpo> how much better is 6.10 compared to 6.06?
[03:55] <Jucato> zorglu_: oh... better poke fdoving about that...
[03:55] <Jucato> :(
[03:56] <zorglu_> michaelpo: i dunno, i upgrade to avoid a fresh install when feisty is out
[03:56] <zorglu_> michaelpo: once feisty is out, upgrading from dapper will be much harder
[03:56] <Jucato> because it will be dapper -> edgy -> feisty
[03:57] <michaelpo> does the feisty beta crash a lot?
[03:57] <Jucato> michaelpo: not crash as much as some things don't work from time to time
[03:57] <michaelpo> then i should cancel my downloading....
[03:57] <stdin> [StingRay] : in notepad I just see a load of vertical bars (without LC_ALL), with "LC_ALL=bg_BG.CP1251" i got the same as before
[03:58] <Jucato> michaelpo: well, if you want to run it, and help test it, why not :)
[03:58] <michaelpo> im a newbie... just installed 6.06  2 weeks ago
[03:58] <Jucato> michaelpo: what are you downloading? 6.10 or 7.04?
[03:59] <Jucato> Edgy (6.10) or Feisty (7.04)
[04:00] <michaelpo> feisty
[04:00] <michaelpo> making slow progress... 3kb/s
[04:00] <stdin> feisty isn't a stable release yet
[04:00] <zorglu_> wow
[04:00] <Jucato> oh I see. I wouldn't bother with it yet unless you absolutely need or want to... or if you're testing
[04:00] <zorglu_> michaelpo: you have to be real patient :)
[04:01] <[StingRay] > stdin, could be a lot of things then, locale or non-cyrillic font. I will troubleshoot it somehow. I have friends with other distros. I tested with slack and another wine version, so I am 99% sure it is wine as all is fine outside wine.
[04:01] <michaelpo> i just let the download process alone....
[04:01] <zorglu_> michaelpo: this is what kind of download ? bittorrent, http ? or a apt-get ?
[04:02] <Jucato> apt... get..??
[04:02] <zorglu_> yep like apt-get dist-upgrade :)
[04:02] <stdin> [StingRay] : when I copped the text from notepad to kate, there were other charactors, so I'm siding with you that it's a wine/notepad problem
[04:02] <michaelpo> http
[04:02] <Jucato> aaah
[04:02] <michaelpo> bt is throttled here.... 0.0000001 kb/s
[04:03] <zorglu_> michaelpo: oh ok
[04:03] <zorglu_> michaelpo: even with the encrypted connection feature ?
[04:04] <michaelpo> i dont know about encrypted connection feature... please tell me...
[04:04] <zorglu_> michaelpo: this is a feature of bt client to avoid the throttling of some ISP
[04:04] <zorglu_> michaelpo: azureus implement it
[04:04] <zorglu_> michaelpo: let me look for other clients
[04:04] <stdin> ktorrent can do it too
[04:05] <michaelpo> maybe i just wait for 7.04 final... only 2 months to wait....
[04:05] <zorglu_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent_protocol_encryption <- michaelpo look at the client list at the end
[04:07] <michaelpo> zorglu_: thanks... reading now...
[04:08] <frojnd> !twin
[04:08] <ubotu> twin: a Text mode WINdow environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1-3 (edgy), package size 422 kB, installed size 1444 kB
[04:08] <b0unc3> ..
[04:08] <frojnd> !twonMOnitor
[04:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about twonMOnitor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:08] <frojnd> !twinOnitor
[04:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about twinOnitor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:08] <frojnd> !twinmOnitor
[04:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about twinmOnitor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:08] <zorglu_> frojnd: like ncurse kindof stuff ?
[04:08] <frojnd> :S
[04:08] <frojnd> I wanna install 2nd monitor..
[04:08] <frojnd> like extended
[04:09] <zorglu_> oh
[04:09] <carsten_> just do it, and tell the control center about it
[04:09] <zorglu_> !dual
[04:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dual - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:09] <stdin> !xinerama
[04:09] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[04:09] <carsten_> !xinerama
[04:09] <zorglu_> dualhead! i wasnt that far :)
[04:10] <LjL> i made like 10 aliases for that, but it seems i just cannot make enough :P
[04:10] <zorglu_> ok i did 'reboot' at the end of the upgrade.... stressing :)
[04:10] <carsten_> zorglu_: dualhead can be where one screen is a close of the other or xinerama. xinerama is where 2 screens act as one
[04:10] <frojnd> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[04:10] <frojnd> !dualhead
[04:10] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[04:10] <zorglu_> carsten_: ok noted
[04:11] <zorglu_> new splash... moving :)
[04:11] <Ingmar^> I seem to have problems with the ubuntu livecd: whenever I try to partition, or use the install on the desktop, it says "no device found" anyone able to help ?
[04:13] <zorglu_> oh they did the purple stuff
[04:13] <Jucato> Edgy? yep
[04:13] <zorglu_> is there a page to get it back to blue ?
[04:13] <Jucato> zorglu_: color schemes :)
[04:13] <zorglu_> i guess im not the only one doing this modif :)
[04:16] <zorglu_> everybody told them 'no purple we want blue' but still its purple :)
[04:18] <darkserver3> :-( i have to reinstall!!!!
[04:18] <darkserver3> no other option, i need to the reconfig swap... and why??? why this happen to me???
[04:19] <darkserver3> freek bmc portal... has all the fault...
[04:20] <darkserver3> that software find more swap than my phisicall memory and say's for works need to be the same
[04:20] <darkserver3> :-( this is so sad...
[04:25] <ubuntu_> uhh
[04:25] <ubuntu_> quit
[04:27] <letmagnau> there is anyone that have installed compiz on Kubuntu feisty fown?
[04:28] <zorglu_> hmnn uncool, the gcc of edgy doesnt like my code
[04:28] <stevennn> anyone know when the new gimp is ocming out?
[04:32] <the_hammer> !NetGear WG511 help
 Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) lol
[04:33] <waylandbill> hehe
[04:33] <the_hammer> so much for that
[04:38] <nagyv> ! 3d
[04:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:38] <nagyv> ! ati
[04:38] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:39] <sorush21> hi
[04:39] <sorush21> hello
[04:39] <sorush21> salam
[04:39] <sorush21> hola
[04:40] <rysiek|pl> aloha oe
[04:40] <rysiek|pl> ;)
[04:40] <rysiek|pl> hi all
[04:40] <nagyv> hello! I would like to know the fps of my video card, but don't know the command. Could someone help me?
[04:40] <mambo_> hi, does any  body how to enable my wireless access in my laptop (using kubuntu)??
[04:41] <nagyv> mambo_: use the wireless assistant program
[04:41] <frojnd> !nvidia
[04:41] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:41] <Jucato> nagyv: "glxgears -printfps" I think
[04:41] <nagyv> yes, now that I see, I already remember :) thx
[04:42] <nagyv> any ideas what this means: libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
[04:42] <tuxligo> hola alguien aqui habla espaol?
[04:42] <nagyv> !es
[04:42] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:43] <sorush21> how do I keep a remote ftp folder and local one in sync?
[04:43] <sorush21> using kftp
[04:47] <SeanTater> sorush21: try krusader
[04:48] <SeanTater> sorush21: all kde application can use the ftp:// protocol, and in krusader there is a "Synchronize Directories" feature
[04:48] <sorush21> thanks
[04:49] <SeanTater> sorush21: yw
[04:50] <SeanTater> sorush21: sftp + rsync will probably be easier in the long run, if you have the ability to install them on both imvolved machines..
[04:50] <SeanTater>  /involved/
[04:50] <sorush21> SeanTater: I don't think I would like to have both direction sync
[04:51] <frojnd> I have 2.6.17-10-generic
[04:51] <frojnd> can I install nvida drivers
[04:51] <frojnd> so X will work
[04:51] <frojnd> or becouse it's generec it wont ? :s
[04:51] <frojnd> Find the appropriate module for your kernel. For example, if you have linux-image-amd64-k8 installed, then you should install linux-restricted-modules-amd64-k8. Selecting one will also install nvidia-kernel-common. (Note: you have to select the restricted modules first because the nvidia-glx package automatically installs the i386 one - and if you have a generic kernel image, the X will not work.)
[04:52] <frojnd> anyone?
[04:53] <Jucato> frojnd: linux-restricted-modules-generic
[04:53] <Jucato> if that's your kernel
[04:53] <frojnd> no
 I have 2.6.17-10-generic <-- you said so
[04:53] <frojnd> Linux umbrella 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Tue Dec 5 22:28:26 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:53] <frojnd> this is
[04:54] <frojnd> ja ok
[04:54] <frojnd> I said that
[04:54] <Jucato> that's why I said linux-restricted-modules-generic
[04:54] <frojnd> aha
[04:54] <Jucato> install the linux-restricted-modules that matches your kernel
[04:54] <frojnd> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-generic - Non-free Linux 2.6.17 modules on x86_64 generic
[04:55] <frojnd> but I allready have installed this
[04:55] <Jucato> frojnd: make absolutely sure, because the nvidia-glx driver won't work if you don't have it installed or it doesn't match your kernel
[04:56] <Jucato> frojnd: if you're absolutely sure, install "nvidia-glx", then run "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[04:56] <BluesKaj> flash has a new stable offering for mozilla & FF browsers: http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[04:56] <Jucato> ?
[04:57] <BluesKaj> it works too, Jucato ;)
[04:57] <kasia> poland?
[04:57] <Jucato> !pl | kasia
[04:57] <ubotu> kasia: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[04:57] <Jucato> BluesKaj: but what is it?
[04:58] <BluesKaj> the player plugin
[04:58] <Jucato> !flash9
[04:58] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[04:58] <Jucato> that one?
[04:58] <BluesKaj> Flash 9,0,31,0
[04:58] <frojnd> Jucato: obviously modul was installed vie upgrade or dist-upgrade
[04:58] <Jucato> !flashplugin-nonfree edgy-backports
[04:58] <frojnd> via*
[04:58] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.68~ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 164 kB (Only available for i386)
[04:58] <Jucato> er not that
[04:59] <Jucato> !flashplugin-nonfree dapper-backports
[04:59] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 9.0.31~ubuntu1~dapper1 (dapper-backports), package size 13 kB, installed size 100 kB (Only available for i386)
[04:59] <Jucato> BluesKaj: yes. that's Flash 9
[04:59] <Jucato> it's in the repositories
[04:59] <BluesKaj> I installed the tar.gz
[04:59] <BluesKaj> it replaces the previous beta flash9
[05:00] <Jucato> yes
[05:00] <LjL> look at creox and ecamegapedal too
[05:00] <Jucato> the beta flash is long gone
[05:00] <BluesKaj> right
[05:00] <Jucato> BluesKaj: the one in the -backports repo has been the final release 9,0,31,0 for a few weeks now
[05:02] <BluesKaj> ok, I just received a linux email alert from Zdnet about it ...wasn't aware that the backports ahd it available ..Flash made it sound like it was "officially released" today
[05:05] <cefx> For kubuntu, where do I change the current X session's resolution / frequency settings? e.g. I'd like to increase my resolution and maybe raise the frequency to 75-80Hz.
[05:08] <lenaud01> checking for gcc... gcc
[05:08] <lenaud01> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[05:08] <lenaud01> can anyone help?
[05:08] <Jucato> lenaud01: you have build-essential installed?
[05:08] <LjL> Ubotu, tell lenaud01 about build-essential | lenaud01, see the private message from Ubotu
[05:08] <cefx> heh
[05:08] <lenaud01> ty
[05:08] <cefx> LjL: hook me up with a message form Ubotu!
[05:08] <LjL> sure :P
[05:08] <LjL> Ubotu, tell cefx about fixres | cefx, see the private message from Ubotu
[05:09] <cefx> ty
[05:09] <Jucato> lol
[05:09] <LjL> cefx: but the short answer is "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg". the resolution in KDE can be changed with System Settings / Monitors and Displays (or whatever it's called), but it's quite likely that you won't yet have the resolution you want there
[05:09] <Jucato> !xconfig
[05:09] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh 
[05:10] <Jucato> bah not that one...
[05:10] <hammer2> how do i mount a floppy?
[05:10] <LjL> hammer2: sudo mount /media/floppy
[05:10] <LjL> Jucato: why not?
[05:10] <LjL> better than !fixres unless one has further troubles
[05:11] <LjL> !xconfig is <sed> /$/ - See also !FixRes/
[05:11] <ubotu> I'll remember that, LjL
[05:11] <Jucato> I think -phigh doesn't let you choose the frequency...
[05:11] <hammer2> hammer@lappy:~$ sudo mount /media/floppy
[05:11] <hammer2> mount: /dev/ is not a block device
[05:11] <hammer2> ?
[05:11] <cefx> um, that's for ubuntu/gnome?
[05:12] <LjL> hammer2: hm, try  sudo mount /media/floppy0 
[05:12] <cefx> aah, and i'm running enlightenment
[05:12] <cefx> hrmmm
[05:12] <LjL> cefx: the dpkg-reconfigure command is quite universal
[05:12] <hammer2> same error
[05:12] <LjL> Jucato: that could be
[05:13] <hammer2> i need my floppy bad heh
[05:13] <hammer2> its in there and when i goto media and click floppy its just a stupid folder
[05:13] <LjL> hammer2: is there a "/dev/fd0" file?
[05:13] <ScarFreewill> I can't create links form /var :(
[05:13] <hammer2> how do i find out
[05:14] <LjL> hammer2:  ls /dev/fd0 
[05:14] <hammer2> hammer@lappy:~$ ls /dev/fdo
[05:14] <hammer2> ls: /dev/fdo: No such file or directory
[05:14] <hammer2> hammer@lappy:~$
[05:14] <LjL> fd0 not fdo
[05:15] <hammer2> ok yup
[05:15] <LjL> hammer2: then try  sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 
[05:15] <ScarFreewill> ln: `/home/sf/work/www': hard link not allowed for directory
[05:16] <LjL> right, you can't hardlink directories
[05:16] <LjL> can't you try a symlink?
[05:16] <ScarFreewill> no how?
[05:16] <LjL> ln -s
[05:16] <hammer2> its loaded but i cant see the contents
[05:16] <ScarFreewill> ok
[05:16] <hammer2> i wanna copy paste files to Desktop
[05:16] <LjL> hammer2: that's because it's mounted for root access only, i guess. type "groups", do you see "floppy"?
[05:17] <hammer2> hammer@lappy:~$ groups
[05:17] <hammer2> hammer adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[05:17] <ScarFreewill> LjL: thx its workin
[05:17] <LjL> hammer2: ok. edit fstab as root, with  kdesu kate /etc/fstab 
[05:18] <LjL> hammer2: one line (probably the last) will say  /dev/    /media/floppy0 
[05:18] <LjL> hammer2: thange the /dev/ to  /dev/fd0 
[05:18] <LjL> s/thange/change/
[05:18] <hammer2> root@lappy:/home/hammer# kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[05:18] <hammer2> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[05:18] <hammer2> Xlib: No protocol specified
[05:19] <hammer2> kdesu: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[05:19] <hammer2> root@lappy:/home/hammer#
[05:19] <LjL> hammer2: not as root.
[05:19] <LjL> hammer2: be a normal user.
[05:19] <hammer2> oh
[05:19] <LjL> you don't need to be logged in as root for anything
[05:19] <LjL> the "kdesu" will take care of that, with the added bonus that you won't get that error
[05:19] <LjL> !sudo
[05:19] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:20] <hammer2> ok i got it open
[05:21] <LjL> hammer2: thange the /dev/ to  /dev/fd0  in the line that mentions /media/floppy0
[05:22] <hammer2> /dev/fd0          /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[05:22] <hammer2> LIKE THAT?
[05:22] <hammer2> ops
[05:22] <Little_Eagle> RE: sudo vs. root,  can kdesu konquerer to see files that user can't see, but click to edit and get the same error with X.
[05:22] <maniacxs> hi channel, I am using kubuntu (edgy) and i was searching for kde socks support. but in systemsettings -> networking -> proxy i  do not have a option socks. is there a additional package needed?
[05:22] <LjL> hammer2: yes
[05:22] <hammer2> cool
[05:22] <LjL> hammer2: now save and exit kate
[05:23] <LjL> hammer2: then type  sudo umount /media/floppy0 , then see if you can access the floppy by the icon. if not, type  sudo mount /media/floppy0 
[05:23] <Alumin> does anybody know what the difference is between Dapper and Edgy/Feisty that makes Lightscribe work only in Dapper?
[05:23] <slow-motion> halo
[05:23] <gabaryah> after installing win32codecs i'm still unable to view divx movie
[05:23] <hammer2> its workin now without that
[05:23] <Alumin> I'm guessing something about the kernel?
[05:23] <gabaryah> can someone help me
[05:23] <hammer2> ty so much
[05:23] <slow-motion> +l
[05:24] <Alumin> gabaryah: what happens when you try?
[05:24] <Little_Eagle> gabaryah: http://www.getautomatix.com
[05:24] <gabaryah> doesn't play
[05:24] <LjL> !automatix
[05:24] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:24] <maniacxs> Alumin: what software are you using to lightscribe the media?
[05:24] <maniacxs> Alumin: are there any errors?
[05:24] <Alumin> maniacxs: well, I haven't tried yet, I don't have a Lightscribe device
[05:24] <Little_Eagle> Ouch!
[05:25] <Alumin> I've just been reading about it on the Internets
[05:25] <gabaryah> is there a way to install beryl
[05:25] <gabaryah> i followed several ubuntu guides
[05:25] <Alumin> but as soon as I saw the LightScribe client for Linux, I decided to go buy one
[05:25] <LjL> see the #ubuntu-xgl topic gabaryah
[05:25] <gabaryah> but once i logg out i don't see XGL but a blank instead
[05:25] <Little_Eagle> !worksforme
[05:25] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[05:25] <Alumin> however, I'm running Edgy...so before I spend the money I'd like to figure out what I need to do to get it to work
[05:26] <eeos> Riddell?
[05:26] <Riddell> hi eeos
[05:26] <Alumin> the only "workaround" I've seen thus far is someone who set up an entire Dapper chroot to run it in...I don't think I'm really that into the idea :)
[05:26] <eeos> Riddell hi!
[05:26] <Theory> hrm, that suggests it is a userspace issue
[05:27] <maniacxs> Alumin: i was able to succesfully lightscribe with dapper and gentoo. i used the lightscribe software from lightscribe org. i had permission problems with this software. There is in the sdk a example c program this waork how it should
[05:27] <maniacxs> Alumin: this was on gentoo
[05:27] <Alumin> maniacxs: yeah, everyone's reporting success with dapper
[05:27] <Alumin> but they say it doesn't work in Edgy or Feisty
[05:27] <Theory> my machine with lightscribe is away at the menders so I can't really play
[05:29] <maniacxs> Alumin: do you have some reports on edgy or feisty with detailed errors?
[05:30] <hammer2> i forget the next line
[05:30] <hammer2> hammer@lappy:~/Desktop/NETGEAR$ sudo ndiswrapper -i netwg511.inf
[05:30] <hammer2> Installing netwg511
[05:30] <hammer2> hammer@lappy:~/Desktop/NETGEAR$
[05:30] <LjL> !paste
[05:30] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:31] <Dr_willis> looks like it installed to me.. :)
[05:31] <hammer2> theres a -m command
[05:31] <hammer2> i forget
[05:32] <digitalfreedom> ok the issue today is beryl window manager giving me problems installing..whats the command to paste a long message? paste board or something so ppl can see it
[05:32] <hammer2> think it be ndiswrapper -m something?
[05:32] <Dr_willis> !paste
[05:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:32] <Dr_willis> !ndiswrapper
[05:32] <digitalfreedom> thanx been some time since i been on here
[05:32] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:32] <zorglu_> q. i would like to remove the purple stuff from edgy and get it back to a blue, is there a page for this ?
[05:33] <zorglu_> !blue
[05:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about blue - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:33] <Dr_willis> purple stuff?
[05:33] <zorglu_> Dr_willis: yep all the color went purple after upgrading to edgy. i would like to get it back to blue. i guess there is a bunch of theme to update etc...
[05:33] <digitalfreedom> ok here it is..http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3836/
[05:33] <digitalfreedom> so anyadvice would be helpfull
[05:34] <Dr_willis> select some different themes  then - i guess.  i never noticed any Purple.
[05:34] <digitalfreedom> oh i get that after i do sudo apt-get install beryl
[05:34] <digitalfreedom> i updated repos list as well
[05:34] <Dr_willis> Theres a lot of themes not installed by default lso you may want to check out.
[05:34] <zorglu_> Dr_willis: well you should install edgy then :)
[05:34] <Dr_willis> I am running Edgy Eft Kubuntu edition right now.
[05:34] <zorglu_> Dr_willis: oh, so it is just a color naming issue :)
[05:34] <Dr_willis> But since i kept my /home partition - it may be using my old settings..
[05:35] <Dr_willis> let me try another user.
[05:35] <Alumin> maniacxs: hold on a sec, I'll backtrack some of the searches and see what I can find
[05:35] <zorglu_> Dr_willis: during the whole edgy building, it was called the 'purple theme'
[05:35] <zorglu_> the press and all talked about it :)
[05:36] <zorglu_> ok beside that, is there a page documenting how to change all the theme ?
[05:36] <zorglu_> !theme
[05:36] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[05:36] <zorglu_> seems to be the one :)
[05:36] <nagyv> I can not get eject my cd. Even before Konqueror was able to browse it only very slowly, so I thought to take it out, but can't. AFAIK nothing else is using it. How could I get it?
[05:37] <hammer2> im lost on that forum
[05:37] <hammer2> i only need 1 command right now
[05:37] <nagyv> sorry, I was wrong. I have started kaffeine 5 minutes ago to play a movie from the cd, and it started only now.
[05:37] <hammer2> cant finmd it
[05:37] <hammer2> i knopw its -m
[05:38] <hammer2> ndisdriver -m netwg511.inf
[05:38] <hammer2> bash: ndisdriver: command not found
[05:38] <waylandbill> install ndisdriver first
[05:38] <hammer2> its installed
[05:39] <hammer2> i did 1st step already to
[05:39] <Dr_willis> just use the control panel stuff anc pick a different theme..
[05:39] <hammer2> ndisdriver -i file.inf
[05:39] <waylandbill> oh.. the -i?
[05:39] <hammer2> ya but i cant recall whats next
[05:39] <digitalfreedom> any help with beryl?
[05:39] <waylandbill> hammer2: -l to list?
[05:39] <hammer2> modprobe nt workdisdriver -m file.inf doesn
[05:39] <Dr_willis> !beryl
[05:39] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[05:40] <digitalfreedom> i know what it is im having problems getting installed
[05:40] <Sirgado> hi
[05:40] <digitalfreedom> hi
[05:40] <cefx> lol
[05:40] <hammer2> i get command not found -l
[05:40] <waylandbill> digitalfreedom: that's not suprising. the state of packages lately has been breaking stuff.
[05:40] <digitalfreedom> i did a pastebin on it
[05:41] <hammer2> then help says this -l                List installed drivers
[05:41] <digitalfreedom> when i do sudo apt-get install beryl i get broken packages
[05:41] <hammer2> go figure
[05:41] <digitalfreedom> or something like that
[05:41] <waylandbill> hammer2: oh... sorry I misread. ndisdriver isn't ndiswrapper.
[05:41] <digitalfreedom> see my friend got visat (boooooooo) and so he is all on aboput this 3d winow crap so i weanna show him up
[05:41] <digitalfreedom> vista
[05:42] <hammer2> ohhh thats what i did wrong
[05:42] <hammer2> i need wrapper
[05:42] <hammer2> oops
[05:42] <zorglu_> Dr_willis: the new name for 'theme' is 'color scheme' ? or this 'color scheme' is something else
[05:42] <waylandbill> but beryl isn't done.
[05:42] <digitalfreedom> yeah it is...my other luinux pal uses it all the time
[05:42] <BluesKaj> schema
[05:42] <digitalfreedom> if i could type today id be OK
[05:42] <zorglu_> Dr_willis: i failed to find anything named 'theme' in the 'system setting'
[05:42] <adaran> hey everyone. i have two displays in clone mode (using fglrx), how can i display something (like mplayer) fullscreen on the smaller display?
[05:42] <hammer2> Installed drivers:
[05:42] <hammer2> netwg511                driver installed, hardware present
[05:42] <waylandbill> digitalfreedom: umm.. alpha is not done.
[05:43] <hammer2> ok so then ndiswrapper -m file.inf right?
[05:43] <digitalfreedom> alpha dshew this is giving me a headache
[05:43] <Dr_willis> zorglu_,  i alweays add the 'settings' panel applet - to the panel. its right there int he menus there.. i dont even go to the other settings areas.
[05:43] <hammer2> dam it didnt work
[05:43] <waylandbill> digitalfreedom: ok. plain and simple. there are broken packages. other than that, you're on your own.
[05:43] <cefx> LjL: I'm actually looking at my xorg.conf, and I see for Depth 24 it has a bunch of resolutions listed.
[05:44] <cefx> Does that change your reccomendation at all...?
[05:44] <zorglu_> Dr_willis: ok will look then :)
[05:44] <waylandbill> you want to show your friend up tell him you didn't spend $300 on an O.S. ;-)
[05:44] <cefx> e.g. -- it has 1600x1200 to 800x600 under the modes subsection of Depth 24.
[05:44] <Dr_willis> zorglu_,  or run kcontrol - There is some work being done on reorganizing the settings/controlpanel tools/layouts - I just use the 'old' way. :)
[05:45] <LjL> cefx: which resolution is the one you *want*?
[05:45] <Dr_willis> i do thinkl that 'settings' icon should be in the panel by default :)
[05:45] <LjL> cefx: my advice is to only leave *that* resolution, and lower ones, but not higher ones
[05:45] <waylandbill> hammer2: the driver installed. are you sure it's the right driver and is functional?
[05:45] <hammer2> yup
[05:45] <hammer2> im missing the -m command tho and its driving me nuts
[05:46] <waylandbill> it's in the man page.
[05:47] <hammer2> this page here is useless doesnt have a walk through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/NetgearWG511andNdiswrapper?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDevice%29
[05:48] <waylandbill> hammer2: what version ndiswrapper?
[05:48] <waylandbill> WARNING: This card does not seem to work ndiswrapper 1.16 and above
[05:49] <hammer2> no idea
[05:49] <hammer2> i used syn to install
[05:49] <waylandbill> how did you install it?
[05:49] <cefx> hmmm
[05:49] <hammer2> apt manager
[05:49] <hammer2> syn w/e
[05:49] <hammer2> synapic w/e
[05:49] <waylandbill> right
[05:50] <hammer2> i have the ver 1 card
[05:50] <hammer2> most ppl have trouble with v3 card
[05:50] <ForgeAus> are there any plans to add FFS or SFS support to parted/gparted/qtparted?
[05:50] <waylandbill> hammer2: ls /var/cache/apt/archives/ndiswrapper-*
[05:51] <ForgeAus> (as in detect/read... I don't expect grow shrink move, etc...
[05:51] <LjL> cefx: as far as refresh rates are concerned - if that is a problem - you need to look at the Monitor section, where there's the horizontal and vertical sync rates
[05:51] <hammer2> http://pastebin.ca/337220
[05:52] <LjL> cefx: you can either get them from your monitor's manual, or use dpkg-reconfigure, which can give you a sort of user friendly way to "guess" them right
[05:52] <cefx> yeah
[05:52] <cefx> finding my monitor's manual is a bitch
[05:52] <cefx> I googled and couldn't find it
[05:52] <cefx> archaic hardware ftl :/
[05:52] <cefx> but thanks LjL :)
[05:53] <scoates> hi
[05:53] <scoates> it takes a really long time for my laptop to resume from ACPI S3 (suspend to ram). Can someone suggest where I should look to figure out why?
[05:53] <LjL> cefx: then nevermind it, just select the "medium" or "intermediate" or what-it's-called option in dpkg-reconfigure, and there select your desired resolution at 75Hz (or the Hz you like)
[05:54] <waylandbill> hammer2: looks like you have 1.18. you need to put in 1.15 at the latest.
[05:54] <LjL> cefx: keep in mind that you always need to restart X for these kinds of modifications to take effect
[05:54] <waylandbill> hammer2: (assuming that page is correct of course)
[05:55] <hammer2> also doesnt tell u the card ver
[05:55] <hammer2> wich would help alot
[05:55] <cefx> LjL: yeah
[05:55] <hammer2> as theres 3 ver of it and all have different ways to install
[05:55] <cefx> I may leave it as it is...these machines technically aren't mine :/
[05:56] <waylandbill> ndiswrapper is pretty straightforward.
[05:56] <hammer2> its working im just forgetting a command
[05:57] <hammer2> shows it loaded the driver
[05:58] <hammer2> -m                Write configuration for modprobe
[05:58] <hammer2>  is where im stuck on
[05:58] <waylandbill> but I've put in a driver and had ndiswrapper succeed to find out the driver didn't work (the one supplied by compaq for my laptop) .. I had to get a different driver before it worked.
[05:58] <hammer2> i ahve the correct drivers
[05:58] <waylandbill> what do you get when you do the -m?
[05:58] <hammer2> my old prob was i needed a more updated kern
[06:00] <hammer2> i get this
[06:00] <hammer2> http://pastebin.ca/337228
[06:01] <waylandbill> drop the inf name
[06:01] <waylandbill> just the -m and nothing after
[06:01] <hammer2> after ndiswrapper i need to get softmac and hardmac or somehting and place into lib/firmware and also have to rename something but have a long way to go before i get there
[06:02] <Sirgado> hi again, I lost connection
[06:02] <waylandbill> the -m doesn't take an argument the man page says
[06:02] <hammer2> same thing
[06:02] <waylandbill> hmm.
[06:02] <hammer2> i know im a hair away from getting it
[06:03] <waylandbill> :)
[06:03] <hammer2> ive done all this i just forget parts of it
[06:03] <hammer2> as i said i was having a kern issue
[06:03] <hammer2> kern was to old
[06:03] <hammer2> now im updated but be damed if i can remember all the stpes agan
[06:04] <hammer2> steps*
[06:04] <waylandbill> last time I did it, I -e to remove, -i myinf.inf to install and then -l to list.
[06:05] <waylandbill> maybe you need to run modprobe -a drivername
[06:06] <waylandbill> like I think I did modprobe -a bcm43xx when I did mine and then it was running.
[06:06] <hammer2> hammer@lappy:~/Desktop/NETGEAR$ modprobe -a netwg511
[06:06] <hammer2> WARNING: Module netwg511 not found.
[06:07] <ladykeiden> hi all. today my hard drive died. gotta reinstall at least a minimal system to get bact to work. i am getting a new laptop monday but got work to do this weekend that cant wait. can i safely move my hard drive to the new laptop and expect it to boot properly is i don't install any drivers other that for my wifi, knowing i will need to fix my wifi on the new laptop?
[06:07] <hammer2> ndiswrapper -i netwg511.inf shows installed after
[06:07] <hammer2> its the next thing i dunno what to do
[06:08] <waylandbill> what does the -l show the driver name to be? it isnt' necessarily the name of the inf file
[06:08] <andriijas> any ideas on why the last line of a channel in irssi is displayed in other channels when i switch using konsole?
[06:08] <hammer2> ok think i might get it
[06:08] <hammer2> depmod -a
[06:08] <hammer2> ?
[06:09] <cefx> Anyone know how to lock enlightenment sessions?
[06:09] <hammer2> FATAL: Could not open /lib/modules/2.6.20-rc6-686/modules.dep.temp for writing: Permission denied
[06:09] <hammer2> oh duhhh sudo
[06:09] <hammer2> lol
[06:09] <cefx> or is fluxbox / blackbox a better option?
[06:11] <hammer2> hammer@lappy:~/Desktop/NETGEAR$ sudo depmod -a netwg511.inf
[06:11] <hammer2> hammer@lappy:~/Desktop/NETGEAR$
[06:11] <jhutchins> hammer2: Depmod usually doesn't have any output iirc, it builds index files.
[06:12] <vbgunz> would anybody know why, my window theme manager doesn't work? I cannot change any properties of any window title bar... I cannot change the theme, the colors or anything :(
[06:12] <vbgunz> anyone know how to fix this?
[06:12] <hammer2> ok but im back to the same prob on the -m thing
[06:12] <jhutchins> hammer2: Are you sure that an .inf file is the correct kernel module?
[06:12] <hammer2> yes
[06:12] <hammer2> positive
[06:13] <hammer2> works in windows i copied the files onto floppy
[06:13] <jhutchins> Ok, I see now that you're using ndiswrapper.
[06:13] <jhutchins> All I know about ndiswrapper is that it's evil.  Sorry.
[06:13] <hammer2> i know my card wirks with prism54 and my driver to
[06:13] <hammer2> works*
[06:14] <hammer2> having a b*tch of a time trying to remember what to do tho
[06:14] <hammer2> i did this already ndiswrapper -i netwg511.inf
[06:14] <hammer2> it worked
[06:14] <hammer2> im lost on 2nd step tho
[06:14] <hammer2> dunno what to do
[06:15] <hammer2> i know its something -m i remember doing that
[06:15] <hammer2> just idunno whats before after -m line
[06:15] <hammer2> im goin in circles
[06:17] <ladykeiden> hammer: i have a compaq presario m2000 with a broadcom wifi...have to go thru the same ndiswrapper tricks to get it to work. maybe lookup the tread for my lappy on the forum and adjust to your card?
[06:17] <hammer2> http://pastebin.ca/337231
[06:17] <makuseru> hello, when i try to start a program it wont run, and if i try to launch it from a terminal i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3806/ can someone please help me figure out got to get it to run
[06:18] <hammer2> ok
[06:21] <goodthing> makuseru: not that i can help you with that, but there is a working alternative called recordmydesktop, which does ogg theora too.
[06:21] <makuseru> thanks, im just trying to get a recorder to work
[06:22] <ladykeiden> help...how hard is it to move a hard drive from one puter to another, assuming there are only the kernel detected drivers and moduls installed? I know that in windows anthing, it is easier to fresh install than to clean up after windows has puked all over itslf..
[06:22] <ladykeiden> anything*
[06:23] <makuseru> ladykeiden: i reccently moved my HD into a completly new computer, the only thing that was the same was my processor and after it detected drivers which it did pretty quick it was fine
[06:23] <ubuntu_> who
[06:23] <makuseru> ladykeiden: no problems at all doing it
[06:24] <ladykeiden> sweet makuseru... can anyone else comment on moving a hard drive to a new puter?
[06:25] <Chousuke> hm
[06:25] <Chousuke> take it out, plug it in, go.
[06:25] <archanoid> ladykeiden: I've done something similar (ghosting one linux image onto multiple machines)  Only thing I've ever had to adjust is the MAC address for ethernet NICs
[06:25] <archanoid> everything else "just works" for me
[06:26] <waylandbill> hammer2: didn't get any closer?
[06:26] <makuseru> thats linux, it "just works"
[06:26] <hammer2> nope
[06:26] <waylandbill> c'mon.. I loved searching through 50 driver cd's with windows. :-)
[06:26] <hammer2> lol
[06:27] <ladykeiden> thats what i figured, but didn't wana waste a bunch of time in the move if I was wrong. Oh, btw...I am one who was driven to Linux by Vista.
[06:27] <hammer2> and the forever non stop rebooting when ya install and or update
[06:27] <hammer2> gotta love windblows
[06:27] <makuseru> ladykeen: have you heard of Beryl?
[06:27] <Little_Eagle> if you remember which stack of CD's the one you're looking is in...
[06:27] <hammer2> lol
[06:28] <makuseru> ladykeiden: have you heard of Beryl?
[06:28] <zorglu_> !beryl
[06:28] <ladykeiden> i have makuseru, but havent looked too deep
[06:28] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[06:28] <hammer2> i had a video when they 1st came out with windows 98 and it was on t.v and they showed it and they did something and windows 98 got their screen of death lol
[06:28] <makuseru> ladykeiden: it makes vistas eyecandy look like windows 3.1
[06:28] <Little_Eagle> Why doesn't bot say that it's not stable and can crash your system?
[06:28] <waylandbill> ladykeiden: don't worry. the ubuntu packages are broken ATM.
[06:28] <hammer2> national t.v and that happened hahaha i never laughed so friggen hard
[06:28] <makuseru> ladykeiden: theres deffinattly NOTHING that compares to it
[06:29] <zorglu_> ladykeiden: about moving the disk, the issue come from the fact the disk has been installed on a given box, and moving to the next box may have configuration issue
[06:29] <ladykeiden> where should i go to find out it the ATI 200M is better than the Intel 950 (intergated graphics processors)
[06:29] <makuseru> how big is the ATI? and how old
[06:29] <zorglu_> ladykeiden: so you may need to reconfigure some stuff. the amount of reconfig depends on the difference between the boxes
[06:30] <waylandbill> 200M or 200 express?
[06:30] <ladykeiden> xpress
[06:30] <makuseru> ATI's are always a pain to deal with
[06:30] <ladykeiden> well...the sticker says radion xpress 200m
[06:30] <waylandbill> ok. I have the express. It does direct rendering well.
[06:30] <hammer2> at least i got this far hammer@lappy:~/Desktop/NETGEAR$ ndiswrapper -l
[06:30] <hammer2> Installed drivers:
[06:30] <hammer2> netwg511                driver installed, hardware present
[06:30] <makuseru> how big is it
[06:30] <makuseru> paste |hammer2
[06:30] <makuseru> !paste |hammer2
[06:30] <ubotu> hammer2: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:31] <hammer2> sorry didnt think it would be that big
[06:31] <waylandbill> I've played neverwinter nights with it. acceptable performance for a laptop.
[06:31] <drkm> how come I upload a file from console (e.g. using ftp) to my website but see the progress of it as FTP doesn't seem to show it ?
[06:32] <archanoid> drkm: do you mean "how *can* I..." ?
[06:32] <waylandbill> ladykeiden: the proprietary driver flakes out sometimes when trying to shutdown though
[06:32] <zorglu_> youhou my apps compiles on edgy too :)
[06:33] <ladykeiden> zorglu: one is ATI chipset and Sempron CPU, the other is Intel chipset and Celeron D cpu...
[06:33] <zorglu_> ladykeiden: the graphic driver is likely to be reconfigured
[06:33] <waylandbill> yeah.. I have the sempron. It's not bad for a $500 laptop.
[06:33] <zorglu_> if both cpu are comptible with 386intel you are ok
[06:34] <zorglu_> i never heard about sempron, what is it ?
[06:34] <ladykeiden> can I start with a generic svga driver, then setup the drivers on the new lappy ?
[06:34] <drkm> archanoid: yes how can I
[06:34] <waylandbill> athlon 64 with 64 bit removed.
[06:34] <drkm> how *can* I upload a file from console (e.g. using ftp) to my website but see the progress of it as FTP doesn't seem to show it ?
[06:34] <zorglu_> !ftp | drkm
[06:35] <ladykeiden> i like the sempron a lot, but the new lappy has Such a nice display!
[06:35] <ubotu> drkm: FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[06:35] <waylandbill> ladykeiden: the ati should install the ati standard driver out of the box.
[06:35] <archanoid> drkm: if you use wget, curl, ncftp, or many different useful ftp clients, you can get progress indicators.
[06:35] <zorglu_> drkm: not good link
[06:35] <zorglu_> drkm: ncftp or lftp will do it
[06:35] <hatta> lftp is very nice
[06:35] <zorglu_> yep i will advice for lftp too
[06:35] <waylandbill> wget doesn't upload btw. :-D
[06:35] <tdn> My sound is not working. I have tried all combinations of the output plugs. I have tried different speakers/headphones. But there is no sound. What can be wrong? This is my sound card: 00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)
[06:35] <hatta> shell like syntax with job control, robust against disconnects
[06:35] <ladykeiden> waylandbill: it does, but i'm betting that the 950 gpu on the new lappy will puke at the ati driver.
[06:36] <drkm> zorglu_: thanks
[06:36] <archanoid> waylandbill: okay, didn't know that about wget.  cURL does and is teh bomb.
[06:36] <makuseru> hello, when i try to start a program it wont run, and if i try to launch it from a terminal i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3806/ can someone please help me figure out got to get it to run
[06:36] <waylandbill> ladykeiden: HA.. it would.. but I'm sure there's an intel one, or vesa at worst.
[06:37] <archanoid> cURL is at http://curl.haxx.se/
[06:37] <makuseru> ladykeiden: if your looking for nvidia drivers you need fglrx
[06:37] <waylandbill> ladykeiden: anytime I had an integrated intel gpu, I ended up putting in another card.. good thing it was only desktops.
[06:37] <hammer2> why does some d/l wanna open with kate but the files are not kate files?
[06:37] <ladykeiden> waylandbill: forgot about vesa. that'll work so i get my cozy gui to work in
[06:38] <hammer2> i need this here
[06:38] <hammer2> http://prism54.org/fullmac.html
[06:38] <waylandbill> makuseru: fglrx is ati, not nvidia
[06:38] <hammer2> 1.4.0.3
[06:38] <Little_Eagle> kate is text editor....
[06:38] <hammer2> and stupid kate opens
[06:38] <makuseru> oops
[06:38] <hammer2> exactly the file i want isnt a txt file
[06:38] <waylandbill> right click and save the file
[06:38] <makuseru> i ment ATI not nvidia
[06:38] <hammer2> its an arm file
[06:38] <archanoid> hammer2: I'm guessing it's because kate is default handler for files w/o a set MIME type handler
[06:38] <ladykeiden> i got the proprietary drivers in last night and WoW is it awesome! google earth flys!
[06:38] <waylandbill> makuseru: I guess that happens. :-)
[06:38] <makuseru> ya
[06:38] <archanoid> hammer2: stress *guessing*
[06:39] <makuseru> i wish i had gotten an nvidia rather than my ati
[06:39] <hammer2> how would i fix this?
[06:39] <hammer2> its done it to even a zip file earlyer
[06:40] <zorglu_> wow upgrading to edgy made reduced the latency of my apps by 3 :)
[06:40] <makuseru> hello, when i try to start a program it wont run, and if i try to launch it from a terminal i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3806/ can someone please help me figure out got to get it to run
[06:40] <hatta> zorglu_, 3 what?
[06:40] <stdin> makuseru: looks like you need gconf
[06:40] <zorglu_> hatta: reduced by 3. a factor 3. before it was 3ms average, now it is 1ms :)
[06:40] <stdin> !gconf
[06:40] <ubotu> gconf: GNOME configuration database system. (daemon and tools). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.9-7.1 (edgy), package size 380 kB, installed size 1484 kB
[06:40] <hatta> oh
[06:41] <zorglu_> hatta: likely a kernel latency somewhere
[06:41] <makuseru> stdin: i have it
[06:41] <hatta> how do you measure it?
[06:41] <archanoid> hammer2: using konquerer, check out configuration settings "File Associations"
[06:41] <waylandbill> makuseru: you're missing the gconf python binding
[06:41] <zorglu_> hatta: well you ping :)
[06:41] <zorglu_> hmmm do i upgrade my main box too  ?:)
[06:42] <stdin> !python-gconf
[06:42] <ubotu> python-gconf: Python bindings for GConf2. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.0-0ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 66 kB, installed size 236 kB
[06:42] <zorglu_> damn i feel lucky :)
[06:42] <stdin> makuseru: ^^
[06:42] <makuseru> oh ok, ill get that and try
[06:44] <waylandbill> stdin: I knew what he needed, just not the exact name. :-)
[06:44] <ricky_ds> Hi folks
[06:44] <stdin> waylandbill: heh, I just did "apt-cache search gconf|grep python" :)
[06:44] <zorglu_> .
[06:45] <waylandbill> yeah.. if I wasn't starting to burn a dvd, I would've done something like that. hehe
[06:45] <zorglu> !upgrade
[06:45] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[06:45] <hnsn> jag gillar korv
[06:45] <stdin> !se
[06:46] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[06:46] <ricky_ds> When I connect my camera via USB to the computer, a window opens asking me what I want to do with it (open folder in new window etc...) what program is behind that and how can I link in my own script (which would download the photos in a given directory automatically)?
[06:47] <Grubasek> HI
[06:47] <Grubasek> I have a problem with kubuntu
[06:48] <stdin> ask away
[06:48] <Little_Eagle> most likely comp sees camera just like usb stick.  If you hooked it it would do it for any usb drive....
[06:48] <ricky_ds> Little_Eagle: that would be fine
[06:49] <ricky_ds> I just want to try it and see if my mom can handle that :) right now I always have to download the photos for her...
[06:50] <ricky_ds> Little_Eagle: thanks for the tip
[06:51] <zorglu_> yooooo upgrading main box
[06:52] <waylandbill> ricky_ds: it all begins with hald. It sends the notification that removable media arrived. not sure which ioslave it notifies off hand.
[06:54] <jhutchins> ricky_ds: It's not real easy to customize right now, any action you define for the camera (ie. open digikam) will probably become the default for /dev/sda, or any USB storage device.  I'd say make "Open Folder in New Window" would be the best choice.
[06:54] <zorglu_> !java
[06:54] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[06:54] <jhutchins> Supposedly you can customize it by USB device id, but that's not easy and hasn't worked for me.
[06:54] <zorglu_> java6 is available on edgy no ?
[06:55] <zorglu_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java <- this page is old enougth, not to include edgy :)
[06:55] <waylandbill> ricky_ds: In kcontrol, peripherals, storage media you'll find the definitions for the mime types that menu displays anyway.
[06:56] <ricky_ds> waylandbill: looks like this is the right path... thanx
[06:56] <waylandbill> no prob
[06:57] <hammer2> some reason its saved as a binary file
[06:57] <flavia> hi, if I have 2.6.17-10-generic for the binary invidia drivers I have to install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-generic, is that right? last time I tried I had no xserver at all
[06:58] <DaSkreech> hi hammer2
[06:58] <hammer2> hi
[06:58] <hammer2> fighting with my netcard
[06:58] <jhutchins> zorglu_: Little bit of brain required here.
[06:58] <stdin> flavia: yeah, you need the restricted modules package
[06:59] <hammer2> http://prism54.org/fullmac.html i need this here
[06:59] <archangel_> "unable to locate RSDP" I get that on a very old pc with a live cd in it.
[06:59] <hammer2> but it saves as a strange binary
[06:59] <distro-tester> hello all
[06:59] <jhutchins> zorglu_: 1) If it's available for dapper, why would it not be available for edgy?  You can install dapper packages on edgy.
[06:59] <hammer2> :(
[06:59] <archangel_> what does that mean?
[06:59] <jhutchins> zorglu_:  2) Nothing in that procedure is likely to have changed between Dapper and Edgy.
[06:59] <jhutchins> zorglu_: Why not just try it?
[06:59] <oneeye> hello
[07:00] <stamen> hi
[07:00] <stamen> how to use emerald theme manaegr
[07:00] <stamen> manager
[07:00] <stamen> in kubuntu
[07:00] <DaSkreech> stamen: Ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[07:00] <stdin> hammer2: huh, the firmware ?
[07:00] <stamen> is it working only in XGL
[07:00] <stamen> or can work in normal X session
[07:01] <stdin> stamen: depends on your hardware
[07:01] <archangel_> still booting..... surpisingly enough
[07:01] <oneeye> need to know how to play dvds
[07:01] <waylandbill> archangel_: disable ACPI
[07:01] <stdin> !dvd | oneeye
[07:01] <ubotu> oneeye: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:01] <waylandbill> archangel_: Root System Description Pointer (ACPI)
[07:01] <archangel_> pentium 166   lol
[07:02] <waylandbill> of course, that may be telling you it already did. :-)
[07:02] <archangel_> loading into x now
[07:03] <stamen> stdin: what you mena
[07:03] <stamen> maen
[07:03] <stamen> mean
[07:03] <archangel_> I cant believe its doing it, cause it wont run mepis at all
[07:03] <archangel_> its smaller than ubuntu
[07:03] <stamen> stdin: it is compatible for that
[07:03] <waylandbill> probably a kernel difference
[07:03] <archangel_> yeah
[07:03] <oneeye> when i tried to open the link it said this Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: Read-only file system.
[07:04] <stdin> stamen: if you have an intel chip or a nvidia card (with the latest driver) you don't need xgl, but if you have an ATI card or nvidia (with the older driver) you need XGL
[07:05] <archangel_> what would you reccomend for a 'feather light' install for a system like this (penium 166)? I'm going to give it to a needy family with nothing.
[07:05] <waylandbill> Xubuntu.
[07:06] <archangel_> ahh, ok
[07:06] <waylandbill> lighterweight desktop since it's an older system
[07:08] <archangel_> at the site right now, think I'll try it out
[07:09] <archangel_> thanks
[07:13] <intelikey> i need to connect kcontrol call by root to the running xsession   kcontrol --display :0   fails with   kcontrol: cannot connect to X server :0
[07:13] <intelikey> DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-5710' to 'kcontrol'
[07:13] <intelikey> any sujestions ?
[07:13] <digitalfreedom> in adept when i click to install something or mark it for instalation i have BREAK (install) in red letters whats that all about?
[07:13] <tdn> I have just installed Kubuntu 6.10. Now I would like multimedia codecs to work. I have installed w32codecs from a deb-package frmo debian-multimedia.org. And I have installed the vlc-package. But now Kaffeine cannot play videos right. Videolan can play some videos though. Also I would like to be able to hear net radio (streaming media). Can you help me with this? I have tried following the documentation I have been able to dig up via Google.
[07:13] <stdin> the user running the Xsession needs to run "xhost +LOCAL:"
[07:13] <stdin> intelikey: ^
[07:14] <oneeye> what is the best dvd player for linex
[07:14] <stdin> tdn: look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[07:14] <Theory> kaffeine is nice
[07:14] <digitalfreedom> didnt knwo there was a linex dvd player
[07:14] <Theory> a bunch of people like vlc
[07:14] <tdn> stdin, I have already tried that.
[07:15] <tdn> oneeye, I use Kaffeine and mplayer.
[07:15] <intelikey> stdin k
[07:16] <oneeye> kan you help me install that to see if it works because someone helped me install vlc and it does not work
[07:16] <intelikey> stdin LOCAL == bad host name
[07:16] <intelikey> localhost ?
[07:16] <oneeye> us
[07:17] <stdin> intelikey: add the ':' to the end
[07:18] <stdin> oneeye: why didn't you install vnc from the repository ?
[07:18] <zorglu_> q. the package mirror site for france is 'fr.archive.ubuntu.com', correct ?
[07:18] <waylandbill> linex is a bed liner for a pickup truck. :-)
[07:18] <intelikey> eeek  kdeinit: Shutting down running client.
[07:18] <stdin> zorglu_: yes
[07:18] <zorglu_> stdin: thanks
[07:18] <oneeye> not sure i did three steps
[07:19] <stdin> !info vlc
[07:19] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB
[07:20] <zorglu_> much better :)
[07:20] <intelikey> stdin yeah that did it.   thanks.
[07:20] <stdin> intelikey: no problem :)
[07:20] <intelikey> !cups
[07:20] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[07:20] <zorglu_> 8min to update via fr.archive vs 50min via archive :)
[07:20] <lunchbox> do I have to install a mail server for php to work...
[07:21] <lunchbox> the mail par
[07:21] <stevennn> alright...if winowed mode is -w what is fullscreen?
[07:22] <Raptormn> hello
[07:22] <lunchbox> hi
[07:22] <Raptormn> i could use some help if anyone is interested in a problem
[07:23] <Raptormn> its with the install
[07:23] <Raptormn> getting this error:
[07:23] <Raptormn> [17179571.860000] PCI: Error while updating region 0000:03:00.0/0 (0000c00 !=00000000)
[07:23] <Raptormn> [17179571.860000] PCI: Error while updating region 0000:03:00.0/2 (0000c00 !=00000000)
[07:23] <Little_Eagle> Raptormn: what's problem
[07:24] <Raptormn> i have a E6700 processor and dvdrw(IDE) and 2 seagate(SATA)
[07:24] <Little_Eagle> Raptormn: That's hardware related... PCI Bus.
[07:24] <tdn> Can you play web radio from this URL http://netradio.dr.dk/content.asp?station=undefined ?
[07:24] <tdn> I would like to be able to.
[07:25] <Raptormn> is there any fix
[07:25] <zorglu> q. just updated a dapper into edgy, but now the
[07:25] <zorglu> err
[07:26] <Little_Eagle> tdn: You like that music?
[07:26] <zorglu> q. just updated a dapper into edgy, all my font are nice, except the one in the 'quote' of the web page, i guess this is the monospace font ?
[07:27] <Little_Eagle> Makes me think of "Beep, Beep, oh wait.  Booop, Boop, Boop."
[07:27] <jose__> wenas
[07:27] <Little_Eagle> Actually, it's not bad.  Getting used to it.
[07:28] <zorglu_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnEdgy <- like in this page, all the fonts are nice, excep the one for 'glxinfo | grep direct' kindof stuff which is ugly
[07:28] <tdn> Little_Eagle, Dunno. I would like to be able to hear it.~
[07:28] <tdn> Little_Eagle, how do I make it work?
[07:32] <hammer2> cna some one tell me what this file needs to renamed to 1.0.4.3.arm from here http://prism54.org/fullmac.html
[07:33] <zorglu_> hammer2: what about asking on #prism54 ? :)
[07:33] <hammer2> NO ONES ANSWERING
[07:33] <hammer2> oops sorry caps
[07:33] <Little_Eagle> zorglu: You're right, ugly.  It's preformatted text, which usually defaults to courier.
[07:34] <zorglu_> Little_Eagle: it is ugly for you too ?
[07:34] <tdn> Does anyone of you use easy-ubuntu or automatix or something like that?
[07:34] <apokryphos> !automatix
[07:34] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:34] <apokryphos> tdn: for easyubuntu join #easyubuntu
[07:35] <hammer2> THANK GOD FOR OLD TXT FILES I SAVED
[07:35] <hammer2> ahh dam keybord touchy
[07:35] <hammer2> rename 1.0.4.3.arm to  isl3890
[07:35] <hammer2> bbs
[07:35] <tdn> apokryphos, I do not want support for easyubuntu. I would like to know if anyone of you guys are using it? Because last time I checked it broke my system.
[07:36] <jhutchins> zorglu_: What's your browser?  You can usually set default fonts within the browser, or you can set the default fixed-space font for kde in kcontrol.
[07:36] <zorglu_> jhutchins: it is in konqueror, i know how to change the font but i dont know which font
[07:36] <zorglu_> jhutchins: there is like 6 font in konqueror
[07:37] <zorglu_> i tried 'fixed font' but it doesnt change the way it is displayed
[07:37] <Dr_willis> tdn,  theres a great many horror stories about easyubuntu, and the even worse automatix. :) on the forums/wikis and so on.. i advice - to not use it. or any similer tools.
[07:39] <oneeye> hey still need help with dvd player
[07:39] <tdn> Dr_willis, thanks. I would like to make multimedia codecs work on my system. And I would like to do it without easyubuntu or automatix. I want to do it manually so that I can maintain the system(s). But I can't make it work. I have done what the ubuntu wikis say and what I can find on Google. But it still doesn't work.
[07:39] <jhutchins> zorglu_: well, it's renderig <pre>, so experiment.  Try sans.
[07:40] <zorglu_> jhutchins: ok
[07:40] <Dr_willis> tdn,  ive normally just enabled the severas repository, and apt-get installed them..
[07:40] <tdn> Dr_willis, ok.
[07:40] <Dr_willis> tdn,  unless its some specific codecs you are having issues with. Ive also downloaded the codec packs from the mplayer homepage and installed them that way
[07:40] <jhutchins> zorglu_: I would say make sure you only have one instance of knoq open, and you close and re-open between changes though, cause fixed shoudl have fixed it.
[07:41] <tdn> Dr_willis, ok.
[07:41] <kb3> hello dr willis
[07:41] <tdn> Dr_willis, compiled it yourself?
[07:41] <Dr_willis> tdn,  OR failing all that.. :) ya could use that Ubuntu Variant called "Mint Linux" it included them i think.. (but not sure how legal that is) :)
[07:41] <Dr_willis> tdn,  mplayer site has deb files for the codecs. theyve worked forme in the past.. but its probverly better to use the severas or other repositories
[07:41] <Dr_willis> !easysource
[07:41] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:42] <oneeye> hellooooo
[07:42] <tdn> Dr_willis, ok.
[07:42] <tdn> Dr_willis, thanks.
[07:46] <zorglu_> jhutchins: well i changed all the font to weirdo stuff like arabic/russian etc..., i closed, i killed the process, did kbuildsyscoca, and reopened. no font has changed at all :)
[07:46] <zorglu_> so im doing something wrong :)
[07:47] <zorglu_> so really important for now, anyway. i can live with this for a while :)
[07:47] <Dr_willis> tdn,  interesting news i just saw -->  Tollef Fog Heen has announced the third alpha release of Ubuntu 7.04, also known as "Herd CD" - now with painless multimedia codecs,
[07:49] <nihil_sum> Is there a standard utility to change the line-endings of text files between CR, LR, and CR-LF?
[07:49] <nihil_sum> s/LR/LF
[07:49] <Dr_willis> theres a great many 'dos to unix' converter programs out
[07:49] <Dr_willis> and proberly several 100 scripts out that do it also.
[07:50] <Dr_willis> !find dos2unix
[07:50] <ubotu> File dos2unix found in tofrodos
[07:50] <Dr_willis> !find dos
[07:50] <ubotu> Found: dosfstools, tofrodos, dosage, dosbox, doscan (and 11 others)
[07:50] <Dr_willis> !info tofrodos
[07:50] <ubotu> tofrodos: Converts DOS <-> Unix text files, alias tofromdos. In component main, is optional. Version 1.7.6-2 (edgy), package size 16 kB, installed size 68 kB
[07:50] <nihil_sum> Thanks.
[07:50] <Dr_willis> There ya go. :) theres many many many many others. :)
[07:51] <Dr_willis> its a good 'practice' program to make with whatever language you are learning.
[07:51] <tdn> Dr_willis, ok. Cool :)
[07:51] <Dr_willis> tdn,  tempted to try out Fiesty some time... may do it this weekend.
[07:51] <Dr_willis> work time for me. byee
[07:51] <tdn> Dr_willis, I would like to be able to listen to streaming audio from dr.dk. How do I make that work?
[07:54] <morrolux> m
[07:55] <hammer2> 03:00.0 Network controller: Intersil Corporation ISL3890 [Prism GT/Prism Duette] /ISL3886 [Prism Javelin/Prism Xbow]  (rev 01)
[07:55] <hammer2> :(
[07:55] <tdn> I get this error when trying to install flashplugin-nonfree: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/p/?paste=359
[07:56] <Vincent_k> hello all
[07:56] <oneeye> hey can someone help me
[07:56] <firecrotch> oneeye, what's your problem?
[07:56] <oneeye> i have a problem with the internet
[07:56] <oneeye> when i tri to go to a sit i can not
[07:57] <oneeye> an error shows up
[07:57] <firecrotch> What's the error?
[07:57] <oneeye> it says Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: Read-only file system.
[07:57] <Vincent_k> I have a question regarding madwifi in feisty, I removed the restricted modules and installed madwifi svn, everything seems to work except that I cant connect to my ap
[07:58] <Vincent_k> I have a atheros 5212 based pccard
[07:59] <anonymeeee> anyone have trouble playing mp3's?
[07:59] <anonymeeee> getting an unrecognized format error
 try xmms player
[08:00] <hammer2> its da bomb for mp3s :)
[08:00] <ScarFreewill1> !schedule
[08:00] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Feisty Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule
[08:00] <morrolux> hi there could someone tell how to upgrade firefox from 1.5 to 2.0 thanks
[08:00] <stdin> !mp3 | anonymeeee
[08:00] <ubotu> anonymeeee: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:01] <goodthing> anonymeeee: libxine-extracodecs are needed for amarok to play mp3
[08:01] <firecrotch> oneeye, does this happen no matter what browser you use?
[08:01] <oneeye> yes
[08:01] <ScarFreewill1> woot heard 3 :)
[08:01] <stdin> Vincent_k: you'll get better help for feisty in #ubuntu+1 and/or #kubuntu-devel
[08:02] <Vincent_k> ok thanks I'll try that
[08:02] <oneeye> i tried to get into google but the error popedup
[08:02] <hammer2> anyone else here had or used a NetGear Wg511 netcard?
[08:02] <manchicken> Vincent_k: madwifi requires the linux-restricted modules.
[08:03] <hammer2> has or used*
[08:03] <firecrotch> oneeye: unfortunately, I don't know much about io-slaves or anything of that nature
[08:03] <hammer2> having a bitch of a time with mine here :(
[08:03] <Vincent_k> manchicken: even thoug I installed madwifi separetly?
[08:04] <stdin> the "Read-only file system" part looks like your root fs is mounted read-only
[08:04] <anonymeeee> !dvd
[08:04] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[08:04] <manchicken> Vincent_k: linux-restricted-modules is the "supported" way of running that device.  There may be other ways to do it, but you may have a hard time finding someone else who knows how to help you.
[08:05] <firecrotch> hammer2: what kind of problems are you having? I have a similar Netgear card (not the exact same one though)
[08:05] <hammer2> connecting
[08:05] <hammer2> :)
[08:05] <firecrotch> hammer2: are you using wlassistant?
[08:06] <hammer2> just been trying with thye term dhclient eth1
[08:07] <firecrotch> hammer2: I doubt that the card is eth1
[08:07] <hammer2> ive tried ndiswrapper to no avail
[08:07] <hammer2> i got it installed
[08:07] <hammer2> just i dunno the whole process
[08:08] <firecrotch> hammer2:  I'm pretty sure you don't need ndiswrapper for your card, it should just work
[08:08] <hammer2> can ya help me with t
[08:09] <hammer2> brb bring my other pc in and ill pull the plug here
[08:09] <the_hammer> ok
[08:09] <the_hammer> i was already here i guess lol
[08:09] <the_hammer> plugs pulled
[08:09] <the_hammer> term is open
[08:10] <the_hammer> still here fire?
[08:11] <the_hammer> well so much for that i guess
[08:11] <the_hammer> nothing but headaches ive had lately
[08:12] <firecrotch> sorry, helping someone else too, the_hammer
[08:12] <the_hammer> ok
[08:12] <firecrotch> So when you just plug in the card, what happens?
[08:12] <the_hammer> nadda
[08:13] <the_hammer> it has the prism driver installed
[08:13] <prinze> y los cuerpos???
[08:13] <prinze> cuerpos femeninos'
[08:13] <prinze> dnd estan?
[08:13] <the_hammer> englisg prince?
[08:13] <firecrotch> no aqui, prinze
[08:13] <prinze> no hay cuerpos??
[08:14] <prinze> cuerpos del kubunto??
[08:14] <the_hammer> u understand that fire what they sayin?
[08:14] <the_hammer> lol
[08:14] <the_hammer> thats neat i guess
[08:14] <firecrotch> the_hammer:  something about women, I think
[08:14] <prinze> were're the fucking girls bodys??
[08:14] <the_hammer> ahh there the english
[08:15] <prinze> oh
[08:15] <prinze> excuse me
[08:15] <the_hammer> prinze if ya cant get a date in the real world that should tell u something
[08:15] <prinze> is my first xperience in kubuntu linux
[08:15] <prinze> now i am pro linux
[08:16] <prinze> we have here in our town and a conference about linex
[08:16] <the_hammer> gonna be a long day here now isnt it
[08:16] <prinze> you know??
[08:16] <prinze> extremadura
[08:16] <prinze> spain
[08:16] <prinze> linex
[08:16] <prinze> any else comming?
[08:17] <Quintix> I really messed up X; I can't even login; I went into the consol and started X as root after setting it to vewa
[08:17] <Quintix> vesa
[08:17] <Quintix> the screen is running at 60hz; it is hurting my eyes
[08:18] <prinze> well see you, from extremadura house of linex !!!
[08:18] <the_hammer> fire are u there?
[08:18] <prinze> good luck , this is the real shit for the world
[08:18] <prinze> i support it
[08:19] <the_hammer> lspci shows this 03:00.0 Network controller: Intersil Corporation ISL3890 [Prism GT/Prism Duette] /ISL3886 [Prism Javelin/Prism Xbow]  (rev 01) if this helps ya any
[08:19] <firecrotch> sorry, the_hammer
[08:20] <firecrotch> the_hammer: have you even tried connecting using wlassistant ?
[08:20] <prinze> http://www.myspace.com/darksoundband
[08:20] <the_hammer> i think ya but little box is emty
[08:20] <firecrotch> the_hammer: so it's not finding any access points?
[08:21] <xenophile7x7> its off topic in here,  do you guys know a room whre i can get some help with ssl and pgp?
[08:21] <Skrot-> Is it possible to check which packages depends on a specific package?
[08:21] <prinze> any else know about linex?? please
[08:22] <the_hammer> nope
[08:22] <the_hammer> its shows in eth1 but not ready error
[08:22] <Pants> Hiall.
[08:22] <prinze> linex is the version in Extremadura Spain
[08:22] <Pants> Anyone mind helping me with a graphics card issue?
[08:22] <firecrotch> the_hammer: you might want to try knetworkmanager instead, it's much better than wlassistant
[08:23] <makuseru> whats the best way to rip songs off a cd and turn them to MP3's?
[08:23] <Pants> I have a mobility radeon x1600, can someone please tell me where to find and how to install the drivers?
[08:24] <the_hammer> think i have to install that then
[08:24] <makuseru> Pants: you need fglrx
[08:24] <the_hammer> says unknown command when i do alt F2
[08:24] <Pants> I already attempted to set my GFX drivers to fglrx,
[08:24] <makuseru> !fglrx | Pants
[08:24] <ubotu> Pants: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:24] <firecrotch> the_hammer:  it's not installed by default
[08:24] <firecrotch> I have no idea why it's not though
[08:25] <the_hammer> ok ill be back in a few
[08:25] <Pants> I've attempted to do a lot of things, every time I come up to the Boot screen though, it comes up, goes through, and when it should load up Kubuntu, it just makes a green line go across the screen.
[08:25] <Pants> Only way it doesn't do that is if my graphics drivers are at VESA.
[08:25] <makuseru> vesa is default ati
[08:26] <Pants> Yeah but my refresh rate is horrible,
[08:26] <Pants> And I can't really do much of anything,
[08:26] <makuseru> thats why you need fglrx
[08:26] <Pants> I want to put beryl on this thing.
[08:26] <Pants> How abouts would I do so then?
[08:26] <Pants> My friend attempted to aid me in that situation,
[08:26] <makuseru> unless your ATI is super old like mine
[08:26] <makuseru> !fglrx | Pants
[08:26] <ubotu> Pants: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:27] <Pants> Hahaha.
[08:27] <Pants> Alright.
[08:28] <makuseru> whats the best way to rip songs off a cd and turn them to MP3's?
[08:28] <SeanTater> makuseru: how many CD's and how organized are you?
[08:28] <makuseru> just one
[08:28] <SeanTater> makuseru: then brorse konqueror to audiocd:/
[08:29] <SeanTater> makuseru: /browse/
[08:29] <makuseru> just a sec
[08:30] <SeanTater> makuseru: and drag the ones from the MP3 folder to the folder (like /home/makuseru) you want them in
[08:30] <makuseru> the CD dosnt show up anywhere
[08:31] <Pants> New issue!
[08:31] <Pants> When I sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg bla bla bla,
[08:31] <SeanTater> makuseru: Is the CD in?
[08:31] <Pants> It comes up with some errors,
[08:31] <Pants> talking about how I can't connect to xserver,
[08:31] <Pants> And the same happens when I attempt to save.
[08:31] <firecrotch> Pants:  First, you don't want to use sudo with graphical apps
[08:31] <firecrotch> use kdesu instead
[08:31] <Pants> Thanks.
[08:32] <Pants> Permission Denied when I attempt to kdesu it.
[08:33] <metellius> I'm running livecd now, the preview  7.04 herd-2 release. the installer crashed, and I'd like to update it and see if it works better. Any ideas on what packages the installer consists of? (ubiquity?)
[08:33] <Pants> And yes, I'm on root.
[08:33] <the_hammer> its installed i click run nothing happens
[08:33] <denk_> hello9
[08:33] <hammer2> http://pastebin.ca/337398
[08:33] <hammer2> iwconfig i got pastebin
[08:36] <firecrotch> hammer2: ifdown eth1  then ifup eth1
[08:37] <zorglu_> !edgy
[08:37] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[08:39] <Pants> Under Section: Device, what should the identifier be?
[08:39] <Pants> It says "RADEON X1600 MOBILITY"
[08:41] <zorglu> Pants: i believe this is advesory only - aka you can put whatever your want
[08:41] <the_hammer> its offical my pc hates me
[08:41] <the_hammer> its hanging on enableing interface eth1
[08:42] <the_hammer> fell back to disabled now
[08:42] <firecrotch> the_hammer: ifconfig eth1 up
[08:42] <firecrotch> sometimes ifup does weird stuff
[08:42] <zorglu> the_hammer: smell like dhcp issue from here
[08:43] <Pants> Well I had an issue installing my card.
[08:43] <zorglu> ok my box choosed to do fsck for the first edgy boot :)
[08:43] <mambo> hi
[08:44] <the_hammer> timer expired
[08:44] <mambo> does anybody know a program to make remote desktop with a windows from kubuntu???
[08:44] <the_hammer> ssh mabe mambo?
[08:44] <mambo> wont work
[08:44] <intelikey> somebody knows a good url for a list of open sourced hardware ?   things that work in linux.  not like the printers and winmodems crap that i've been messing with  ???
[08:44] <zorglu> !vnc
[08:44] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[08:45] <herk> irc.freenode.net
[08:45] <firecrotch> the_hammer: I'm also thinking it's a dhcp issue
[08:45] <the_hammer> oh yeah i forgot about the vnc lol
[08:45] <the_hammer> naaa i know its the card drivers
[08:45] <mambo> I cant install vnc in the windows system
[08:45] <mambo> any other idea?
[08:45] <the_hammer> i had it going once already but it died cuz of stupid hot plug conflicts
[08:45] <jott> rdp / rdesktop?
[08:45] <jott> @mambo
[08:45] <mambo> rdp?
[08:45] <the_hammer> i can connect np with wired net
[08:46] <jott> mambo the regular "remote desktop" for windows
[08:46] <mambo> ok, i'll look for it
[08:46] <mambo> thks
[08:46] <the_hammer> i use to have mepis but it was nothing but headaches in there so i installed kubuntu cuz was suggested i get updated kern and then i updated kubuntu with apt-get kernel
[08:46] <jott> mambo: for kubuntu you need "rdesktop" and "krdc" as gui...
[08:47] <underdog5004> I'm at work with a linux box. I can ssh into my home server, but I can't ftp to it (I don't think I've got a port open for it). How can I transfer files from my server to my work box?
[08:48] <jott> underdog5004: scp :)
[08:48] <jott> or sftp..
[08:48] <intelikey> scp
[08:48] <underdog5004> !scp > underdog5004
[08:48] <underdog5004> thanks
[08:48] <zorglu_> !codec
[08:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:49] <intelikey> !mp3 | zorglu
[08:49] <ubotu> zorglu: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:49] <intelikey> it's codecS
[08:49] <zorglu_> ok thanks
[08:50] <firecrotch> the_hammer: There's a driver that supposedly works for your card
[08:50] <intelikey> so nobody has a goto spot for hardware listings ?
[08:50] <underdog5004> intelikey, E: Couldn't find package scp
[08:50] <firecrotch> the_hammer: http://prism54.org/
[08:50] <intelikey> don't look for a package.  just use the command.
[08:51] <intelikey> man scp
[08:51] <underdog5004> ah, it's built-in?
[08:51] <underdog5004> gotcha
[08:51] <the_hammer> been there
[08:52] <the_hammer> renamed it placed to /lib/firmware
[08:52] <intelikey> actually it's part of the openssh-client package underdog5004
[08:52] <intelikey> but you said you could ssh in    so i knew you had it.
[08:52] <underdog5004> intelikey, thanks for the help.
[08:53] <underdog5004> scp Peter* matthew@ipaddress:PeterMusic   ?
[08:54] <underdog5004> /home/matthew/PeterMusic
[08:54] <underdog5004> ?
[08:54] <firecrotch> the_hammer: so you recompiled your kernel and everything?
[08:54] <makuseru> how can i convert a wav to an mp3 in kubuntu
[08:55] <zorglu_> ah ok, my issue is not codec. just that kaffeine doesnt launch at all :)
[08:55] <underdog5004> zorglu, killall kaffeine
[08:55] <the_hammer> ya mean from my update?
[08:55] <underdog5004> then try it
[08:55] <the_hammer> its all auto was a kernel image
[08:55] <the_hammer> if we are talking bout the same thing
[08:56] <intelikey> scp user@remoteip:/path/file user@localhostip:/destination   ?
[08:56] <zorglu_> underdog5004: ok retrying
[08:56] <the_hammer> i cant see it being a dhc issue considering that i have 4 pcs on the net
[08:56] <firecrotch> the_hammer: yeah, probably not
[08:57] <underdog5004> intelikey, "user@remoteip" <== remote in relation to my work box or server?
[08:57] <Pants> Ok got the graphics drivers installed, anyone mind sending me to a guide for XGL/Beryl install on KDE? :)
[08:57] <firecrotch> !beryl | Pants
[08:57] <ubotu> Pants: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[08:57] <Pants> Thanks! :D
[08:57] <intelikey> scp user@localip:/path/file user@remoteip:/dest   ?     depends on which way you want to move things....
[08:58] <underdog5004> I want to move things from my server to my work box. I'm at my work box ssh'ing to my server
[08:58] <firecrotch> the_hammer: Maybe start over with ndiswrapper... should be able to get it to work
[08:58] <the_hammer> do u know all the ndiswrapper commands?
[08:58] <the_hammer> not sure what the 2nd command is?
[08:59] <intelikey> scp user@server:/path/file user@workbox:/destination
[08:59] <the_hammer> ill connect just a sec
[08:59] <firecrotch> the_hammer:  nope, never used it.  My card is a newer Netgear with the Atheros chipset
[08:59] <Pants> That forum really doesn't have a way to install berly,
[08:59] <Pants> Beryl*
[08:59] <Pants> Just an installation support forum.
[08:59] <the_hammer> lucky you
[08:59] <firecrotch> Pants: if you hang on one second, I'll find the guide I used
[08:59] <Pants> Thanks Fire :D
[09:00] <Pants> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL#Installing_Xgl_and_Beryl
[09:00] <Pants> That it?
[09:00] <firecrotch> Nope
[09:00] <firecrotch> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnEdgy
[09:01] <the_hammer> dam ghosts
[09:01] <vbgunz> for all those who remembered I had problems with kaffeine and wmv choppy audio, well, it seems on Kubuntu, I needed to build the the latest xine-lib 1.1.4. I did this and the problem went away
[09:02] <zorglu_> underdog5004: cool did the trick :)
[09:02] <goodthing> anyone tried krecordmydesktop? Just curious :)
[09:02] <intelikey> what's a good cheep well supported new printer ?
[09:02] <Pants> No matter what I do, at the end it says "couldn't find package, beryl."
[09:03] <underdog5004> intelikey, ssh: home: Name or service not known
[09:03] <firecrotch> the_hammer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/NetgearWG511andNdiswrapper  could be of some help :)
[09:04] <firecrotch> Pants: did you add  deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org edgy main to your sources.list?
[09:04] <Pants> Oh shat! I didn't, thanks, sorry forgot :X
[09:04] <zorglu_> q. is there a way to change the background in  konqueror, it is white which seem quite 'harsh/hard' with the purple background
[09:04] <mambo> checking for gcc... no
[09:04] <mambo> checking for cc... no
[09:04] <mambo> checking for cc... no
[09:04] <mambo> checking for cl... no
[09:04] <mambo> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[09:04] <mambo> ???
[09:05] <jager> dammit
[09:05] <jager> who do you have to kill to get sound to work in flash
[09:05] <jager> i just erased and did a fresh install
[09:05] <jager> still doesn't work
[09:07] <jager> fuckit
[09:07] <jager> deal with it later
[09:07] <Pants> Eh, the session adding part is for GNOME.
[09:07] <Pants> Where's the KDE session startup for Beryl?
[09:07] <intelikey> underdog5004 i don't recognize "home:" as a command either   what string did that come from ?
[09:08] <firecrotch> Pants: You just need to add it to your ~/.kde/Autostart folder
[09:09] <goodthing> mambo: plz try to use pastebin next time
[09:09] <distro-tester> any one know's hot tcp spy works and if it's gui?
[09:09] <goodthing> mambo: try it after installing build-essentials
[09:09] <the_hammer> im bout ready to to boot this laptop out the window
[09:10] <goodthing> *-s
[09:10] <firecrotch> Pants: it just needs to be a link to /usr/bin/beryl-manager
[09:10] <the_hammer> ill give the stupid thing root alright ill plant it 100 feet into the ground
[09:10] <jott> underdog5004: the gui approach would be to open konqueror and type fish://uesr@yourserverip and drag the file over ;)
[09:10] <zorglu_> q. i just upgraded to edgy, and the small applet icon of the taskbar are only 1 per column instead of 2.... making them using much larger space
[09:11] <the_hammer> been working on it a bloody week now and still going whats sad is im no further ahead today then i was the day i started
[09:11] <zorglu_> is there a way to get those icon smaller ?
[09:11] <firecrotch> the_hammer: did you try that link I gave?
[09:11] <makuseru> how can i convert a wav to an mp3 in kubuntu
[09:11] <underdog5004> thanks, jott
[09:11] <the_hammer> ya it didnt help
[09:11] <zorglu_> !convert
[09:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about convert - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:12] <the_hammer> clicked on a few links on that link and nadda
[09:12] <BluesKaj> the_hammer, what's the prob?
[09:12] <zorglu_> makuseru: there is a special tools made by ubuntu for that
[09:12] <zorglu_> !mp3 | makuseru
[09:12] <ubotu> makuseru: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:12] <zorglu_> makuseru: you will likely find it from those links
[09:12] <underdog5004> jott, I love you. I'm gonna name one of my children after you.
[09:12] <the_hammer> peice of crap NetGear WG511 ver 1 card wont let me connect to the net
[09:12] <mambo> @goodthing where can i find buil-essentials?
[09:12] <BluesKaj> wireless?
[09:13] <the_hammer> yup pcmia
[09:13] <zorglu_> !build
[09:13] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:13] <the_hammer> it hates me
[09:13] <goodthing> makuseru: soundkonverter, transkode or just lame can do that for you
[09:13] <BluesKaj> !wireless
[09:13] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:13] <the_hammer> i had it connected before for about 3 mins or so then i reboot and it was dead again
[09:13] <firecrotch> Well, what did you do that got it working, the_hammer?
[09:14] <mambo> goodthing>>> where can i find buil-essentials?
[09:14] <zorglu_> !build | mambo
[09:14] <ubotu> mambo: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:14] <the_hammer> ndiswrapper and then also the softmac and hardmac or what ever
[09:14] <x_link> Hi
[09:14] <Pants> I have Beryl manager up,
[09:14] <the_hammer> im lost with the ndiswrapper
[09:14] <firecrotch> hi, x_link
[09:14] <Pants> But I can't rotate or anything.
[09:14] <Pants> what's up with that?
[09:14] <mambo> thks ubotu
[09:15] <the_hammer> i got as far as ndiswrapper -i file.inf
[09:15] <the_hammer> and then i dunno whats next
[09:15] <firecrotch> Pants, you'll have to set that up in the beryl settings manager
[09:15] <goodthing> mambo: get konsole in front and hit "apt-cache seach build-essentail" with the quotes
[09:15] <x_link> I will soon get a second computer and I thought I would try Kubuntu, since I don't like GNOME it has to be Kubuntu =)
[09:15] <goodthing> *search
[09:15] <x_link> But.. is Ubuntu/kubuntu like Debian, a stabel and unstable version?
[09:15] <x_link> pointy: Which version of debian are you using?
[09:15] <x_link> Sorry
[09:15] <firecrotch> x_link, sort of, yes
[09:15] <x_link> pointy: Which version of Beryl.
[09:16] <x_link> firecrotch: Okey
[09:16] <pointy> huh?
[09:16] <slyfox> Anyone here has a working Kopete with Google talk ?
[09:16] <x_link> pointy: Sorry
[09:16] <pointy> :)
[09:16] <x_link> I meant phants
[09:16] <x_link> But he went
[09:16] <pointy> yeaqh
[09:16] <pointy> * yeah
[09:17] <firecrotch> x_link: if you want the most stable, use Dapper
[09:17] <firecrotch> x_link: Less stable would be Edgy, and the "cutting edge" is Feisty (not recommended)
[09:18] <firecrotch> x_link: Edgy is plenty stable though
[09:18] <x_link> firecrotch: Okey. I use Debian Etch right now.
[09:18] <x_link> I want a version  with new versions of apps.
[09:18] <mambo> now what?
[09:18] <x_link> firecrotch: Can you say that Edgy is like Debian Etch/Testing?
[09:18] <firecrotch> x_link:  then you definitely want Edgy
[09:18] <x_link> firecrotch: Okey
[09:18] <x_link> firecrotch: Okey.
[09:19] <x_link> firecrotch: Kubuntu is almost like Debian right?
[09:19] <x_link> Just newer packages etc. ?
[09:19] <x_link> I even heard from a guy that Kubuntu is a bit faster?
[09:19] <goodthing> mambo: with that you should be able to check whether a package is in the repositoties of you sources.list file
[09:20] <JOSF> Does anyone know what the --debian switch *exactly* does in 'python setup.py install --debian' ?
[09:20] <firecrotch> x_link: Kubuntu is based on Debian sid
[09:20] <BluesKaj> !todisc
[09:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about todisc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:20] <x_link> firecrotch: Okey.
[09:20] <goodthing> mambo: or just do: "sudo aptitude install build-essential" and see what that gives you
[09:20] <mambo> its there.. thats why i dont know what is happening
[09:20] <x_link> firecrotch: Well it will proberly be good =)
[09:20] <firecrotch> x_link: I haven't had Edgy break yet :)
[09:20] <x_link> firecrotch: I once tried it for 5 minutes on a P II, I just installed it quick to see how it is.
[09:21] <x_link> The Menu had so little things.
[09:21] <x_link> firecrotch: You mean any crashes?
[09:21] <slyfox> Can Kopete voice talk to google talk ?
[09:21] <hammer2> http://pastebin.ca/337446
[09:21] <firecrotch> x_link: none that I didn't cause by doing something really stupid
[09:21] <hammer2> if ya know ndiswrapper take alook http://pastebin.ca/337446
[09:22] <firecrotch> hammer2: seems to me as if you've got it all set
[09:22] <hammer2> how do i load it tho
[09:22] <anti_system32> como puedo borrar el firestarter
[09:22] <BluesKaj> err no google talk in linux ?
[09:22] <hammer2> i know theres more commands to run like rmmod or something
[09:22] <anti_system32> el corta fuego
[09:22] <x_link> firecrotch: hehe ok
[09:22] <firecrotch> !es
[09:22] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:23] <x_link> firecrotch: Thanks for the info mate!
[09:23] <firecrotch> x_link: my pleasure
[09:23] <x_link> firecrotch: I will join this channel when I installed Kubuntu Edgy
[09:23] <x_link> firecrotch: Do you have the url to the latet edgy version?
[09:23] <ladonlan> hola a todos
[09:23] <ladonlan> ya lo instale
[09:23] <ladonlan> jeje que bonit
[09:23] <firecrotch> http://kubuntu.com/download.php#latest
[09:23] <hammer2> all i did was ndiswrapper -i netwg51.inf
[09:23] <ladonlan> bonito
[09:24] <hammer2> not sure whats next
[09:24] <firecrotch> !es | ladonlan
[09:24] <ubotu> ladonlan: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:24] <hammer2> but i know theres more
[09:24] <firecrotch> hammer2: ifup eth1
[09:24] <firecrotch> it should work now
[09:25] <x_link> firecrotch: Thanks
[09:25] <firecrotch> x_link:  no prb
[09:25] <x_link> firecrotch: Will Kubuntu work good on a AMD Athlon 700MHz, 1GB SDRAM PC133 ?
[09:25] <intelikey> yes x_link
[09:26] <intelikey> unless you think you have to have beryl
[09:26] <hammer2> ifup: interface eth1 already configured
[09:26] <hammer2> MAKES NO SENSE
[09:26] <intelikey> ifconfig
[09:26] <firecrotch> hammer2: sorry, I'm kinda learning this along with you...
[09:26] <intelikey> is it up ?
[09:27] <hammer2> it just says my other net info etho
[09:27] <firecrotch> hammer2: it should be wlan0 (according to what I'm reading)
[09:27] <x_link> firecrotch: kubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso
[09:27] <intelikey> oh wifi ?
[09:27] <hammer2> its always red as eth1
[09:27] <intelikey> !wifi
[09:27] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:27] <x_link> hrmm I think that's the version I already have on a cd.
[09:27] <hammer2> thats what i thought to that should be under something like that and not eth1
[09:28] <firecrotch> x_link: yep, that's the one
[09:28] <hammer2> ill disconneced
[09:28] <hammer2> then get iwconfig again
[09:28] <hammer2> and then reconnect pastebin
[09:28] <x_link> firecrotch: Okey
[09:28] <x_link> Thanks once again mate!
[09:28] <firecrotch> hammer2:   sudo depmod -a    sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[09:28] <x_link> I really appreicate it!
[09:29] <x_link> =) I will be back when I have ubuntu
[09:29] <firecrotch> x_link: :D
[09:29] <x_link> Kubuntu sorry
[09:29] <the_hammer> rebooting it
[09:29] <x_link> intelikey: No, I will not have Beryl on that machine.
[09:29] <x_link> intelikey: But will it really run smoothly and fast?
[09:29] <Pants> !xglfr
[09:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xglfr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:30] <BluesKaj> !fglrx
[09:30] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:30] <ikhouvanje> hai everyone
[09:30] <firecrotch> Hi, ikhouvanje
[09:30] <ikhouvanje> spreekt er iemand hier nederlands?
[09:31] <BluesKaj> !nl
[09:31] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[09:31] <intelikey> x_link i run kde on ubuntu on a p1mmx 100mhz  64m ram 33mhz fsb    you tell me how much differance in that and what you described...
[09:31] <ikhouvanje> ok
[09:31] <ikhouvanje> #ubuntu-nl
[09:31] <ikhouvanje> if i wanna go to #ubuntu-nl
[09:31] <ikhouvanje> how do i do
[09:32] <firecrotch> ikhouvanje:  /join #ubuntu-nl
[09:32] <BluesKaj> in the server textbox ikhouvanje
[09:32] <ikhouvanje> thx
[09:32] <devilsadvocate> why is amarok-engines not in the default kubuntu install?
[09:32] <HymnToLife> because the developpers didn't include it
[09:33] <the_hammer> ok that command  sudo depmod -a    sudo modprobe ndiswrapper put me to a prompt
[09:33] <x_link> intelikey: hehe ok, Well that's good that it runs well.
[09:33] <x_link> Bye everybody !
[09:33] <x_link> Take care!
[09:33] <the_hammer> sorry took so long but rebooted and did the command
[09:33] <firecrotch> the_hammer: no errors?
[09:33] <zorglu_> kubuntu has to learn to leave the previous theme when upgrading. the theme are full of 10years old stuff but not the dapper stuff
[09:33] <HymnToLife> the_hammer, that's normal, now do    sudo iwconfig
[09:33] <the_hammer> no
[09:33] <phobiac> !partition
[09:33] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[09:33] <intelikey> x_link i've never yet seen a system that everything you clicked was instant ready.   and don't expect too.   but the hard ware you described is more than adaquit for the modern linux system.   if you want 3D multi-desktop special affects that might be pushing it...  but for the "default" system it's more than enough.
[09:33] <Shak1> !cascade
[09:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cascade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:34] <phobiac> !Qtparted
[09:34] <Shak1> !opencascade
[09:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Qtparted - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opencascade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:34] <HymnToLife> !botabuse
[09:34] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[09:34] <the_hammer> getting a not ready error want me to paste bin ?
[09:34] <devilsadvocate> HymnToLife, that isnt a real excuse. i took me a month to figure out why i cant stream
[09:34] <the_hammer> ill plug and then show ya the paste
[09:35] <HymnToLife> devilsadvocate, do you honestly thing you are owed an excuse ?
[09:35] <HymnToLife> think*
[09:36] <devilsadvocate> HymnToLife, no. but i was hoping there was a reason it was not included
[09:36] <nanda> how do I install a .run bunary?
[09:36] <nagyv> nanda: run it in konsole?
[09:36] <HymnToLife> maybe there is one, ask the package maintainer
[09:36] <BluesKaj> !partition | phobiac
[09:36] <ubotu> phobiac: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[09:36] <HymnToLife> nanda, sh /path/to/file.run
[09:36] <HymnToLife> with sudo if needed
[09:37] <firecrotch> nanda: you don't, you just click it and it runs (at least that's the point of it)
[09:37] <nanda> Hymn: thanks, that seems to be working
[09:37] <phobiac> BluesKaj: I got it under control now, thanks though.
[09:37] <nanda> thanks
[09:38] <BluesKaj> phobiac, GParted is easier to use and very stable
[09:38] <ikhouvanje> hai
[09:38] <ikhouvanje> #kubuntu-nl
[09:40] <BluesKaj> ikhouvanje, click on Freenode tab , type /join #kubuntu-nl
[09:41] <intelikey> hmmm i can't make the printer print or the scanner scan or the bluetooth work as a modem when did linux stop supporting hardware and start working on eyecandy ???
[09:42] <musya> can i transfer my firefox bookmarks into konqueror or vis versa
[09:42] <ladonlan> hola otra vez
[09:42] <musya> ?
[09:42] <phobiac> BluesKaj: Yeah, I was trying to remember Gparted's name. What's up with Qtparted though? No option that I could see to copy and paste partitions around.
[09:43] <phobiac> musya: Open up konqueror if you don't have it open.
[09:43] <musya> ok
[09:43] <ladonlan> hola
[09:43] <firecrotch> the_hammer: update?
[09:43] <mefisto__> getting no sound. I have 2 soundcards, but half the time when I boot into kubuntu I get no sound. I suspect my other soundcard (which is not connected to speakers) is active. How do I select which soundcard kubuntu uses?
[09:43] <BluesKaj> QTparted , is buggy in my experience , so I went with the sure thing and burned GParted to a disk ...it's alive cd that you boot
[09:44] <firecrotch> ladonlan: hola
[09:44] <firecrotch> !es
[09:44] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:44] <the_hammer> sorry had an unexpected visiter on my way to pastebin
[09:44] <zetor> hello all!
[09:44] <phobiac> musya: Go to bookmarks>edit bookmarks
[09:44] <phobiac> Then file>import bookmarks
[09:44] <hammer2> http://pastebin.ca/337481
[09:44] <firecrotch> zetor: hello!
[09:44] <musya> ok
[09:45] <the_hammer> there it is
[09:45] <the_hammer> fire?
[09:45] <phobiac> Choose to import mozilla bookmarks.
[09:45] <phobiac> You should be in /home/yourusername/.mozilla
[09:45] <firecrotch> the_hammer: I'm stumped
[09:45] <the_hammer> me 2
[09:45] <BluesKaj> mefisto__, open kmix and check the swirch tab to see which card is turned on
[09:46] <the_hammer> been at it a week already
[09:46] <BluesKaj> switch
[09:46] <the_hammer> it was connected for about 3 minds but i reboot and that was it hasnt ran since and was told to update my kerns and mabe change distro i done all that
[09:46] <phobiac> musya: there should be a profiles folder, head into it and then go to the folder that is your profile. If there's only one just choose it.
[09:46] <hammer2> SysInfo: Linux 2.6.20-rc6-686 |  Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.40GHz 2398.076 MHz | Bogomips: 4800.03 | Mem: 335/488M [||||||||||]  | Diskspace: 26.35G Free: 22.70G | Procs: 99 | Uptime: 17 mins 17 secs | Load: 0.06 0.17 0.19  | Vpenis: 34.8 cm | Vboobies: 36D | Screen: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) @ 1024x768 (32 bpp) | eth0: In: 0.11M Out: 0.03M
[09:46] <firecrotch> the_hammer: ifconfig eth1 down
[09:46] <phobiac> There should be a boomarks.html file, choose it and click open.
[09:47] <firecrotch> the_hammer: then ifconfig eth1 up
[09:47] <zetor> anybody here got the error dialog after you start konq after todays updates?
[09:47] <intelikey> zetor version ?
[09:48] <zetor> 3.5.6
[09:48] <hammer2> root@lappy:/home/hammer# ifconfig eth1 down
[09:48] <hammer2> root@lappy:/home/hammer#
[09:48] <mefisto__> I don't understand what you mean by "which card is turned on" in the switch tab. I can select either card in kmix (at the top, it says "current mixer")
[09:48] <zetor> on Edgy
[09:48] <firecrotch> hammer2: that's good
[09:48] <intelikey> dapper here
[09:48] <firecrotch> hammer2: remember that you'll only get a message if there is problem most of the time
[09:48] <hammer2> yup
[09:49] <firecrotch> hammer2: now ifconfig eth1 up
[09:49] <hammer2> root@lappy:/home/hammer# root@lappy:/home/hammer# ifconfig eth1 up
[09:49] <hammer2> bash: root@lappy:/home/hammer#: No such file or directory
[09:49] <BluesKaj> yeah mefisto__ , but which one has the light turned on?
[09:49] <mefisto__> BluesKaj: also, when sound DOES work, changing the soundcard in kmix doesn't change which soundcard is being used
[09:49] <firecrotch> hammer2: try wlan0 instead
[09:50] <underdog5004> hammer2, or ra0
[09:50] <intelikey> hammer2 look at the error ^
[09:50] <intelikey> :)
[09:50] <hammer2> same on all
[09:50] <hammer2> root@lappy:/home/hammer# root@lappy:/home/hammer# ifconfig wolan up
[09:50] <hammer2> bash: root@lappy:/home/hammer#: No such file or directory
[09:50] <hammer2> root@lappy:/home/hammer# root@lappy:/home/hammer# ifconfig ra0 up
[09:50] <hammer2> bash: root@lappy:/home/hammer#: No such file or directory
[09:51] <intelikey> root@lappy:/home/hammer#: <<<< not a command.
[09:51] <BluesKaj> well mefisto__ you can tell which card is being used, so connect accordingly
[09:51] <phobiac> Partitioning takes a long time :(
[09:51] <mefisto__> BluesKaj: I have no idea what you mean. there are "lights" on for various things in each soundcard settings in the switches tab
[09:51] <intelikey> think about it.
[09:51] <mefisto__> BluesKaj: how can I tell which card is being used?
[09:52] <BluesKaj> sorry mefisto__ , my poor memry again , i meant the "input" tab
[09:52] <hammer2> intel cuz im root so i dont have to piss around sudo this and that
[09:52] <hammer2> sudo su :
[09:52] <zorglu_> i think there is a purple cabal :)
[09:52] <intelikey> hammer you are telling it to execute root@lappy:/home/hammer#:
[09:53] <keldon85> hi, I am getting some issues with kubuntu 6.10
[09:53] <zorglu_> all the themes proposed in kubuntu edgy are halfbacked EXCEPT the purple one :)
[09:53] <intelikey> hammer you are telling it to execute root@lappy:/home/hammer
[09:53] <firecrotch> keldon85: what's the problem?
[09:53] <mefisto__> BluesKaj: the settings in kmix are as they always are, whether I have sound or not
[09:53] <goodthing> Hmm, recordmydesktop should be in ubuntu too now it's in sid...
[09:53] <keldon85> firecrotch: for some reason qparted is crashing when I attempt to manually edit the partition table
[09:53] <intelikey> everything after the  # in your command string is considered a comment.
[09:54] <BluesKaj> then check the output tab to make sure it's turned on
[09:54] <intelikey> i.e. the ifconfig blah is commented out and bash is trying to execute the command you gave it.     namely "root@lappy:/home/hammer"
[09:54] <hammer2> ahh ok
[09:54] <hammer2> i see whatcha ment
[09:55] <intelikey> :)
[09:55] <hammer2> SIOCSIFFLAGS: Timer expired
[09:55] <hammer2> eth1
[09:55] <firecrotch> keldon85: is it giving any error messages or anything?
[09:55] <hammer2> fire we got this error SIOCSIFFLAGS: Timer expired
[09:55] <hammer2> off of eth1
[09:55] <firecrotch> hammer2: I have no clue what that means
[09:55] <mefisto__> BluesKaj: make sure what is turned on? I have sliders in the output tab, and they are where they always are
[09:56] <hammer2> me ither lol
[09:56] <hammer2> i just know my system is borked
[09:56] <jcz`> me EITHER hahaha
[09:56] <jcz`> u mean *boinked*
[09:56] <keldon85> firecrotch: it just says "the advanced partitioner (qparted) crashed. Further information can be found in /var/...."
[09:56] <intelikey> me too.   bash i know.  networking, i know not.
[09:57] <BluesKaj> ok mefisto__ , what does it say beside the horizontal balance control at the bottom?
[09:57] <firecrotch> keldon85:  did you look at the further information that it says to check?
[09:57] <mefisto__> BluesKaj: the name of the soundcard, depending on which one I select to control in kmix
[09:58] <keldon85> firecrotch: it says that support for NTFS filesystems is not
[09:58] <zorglu_> q. is there a way to reduce the icon in the panel (the one for the applet), all the icon of the taskbar are tunable, except this one
[09:59] <intelikey> the taskbar has an icon ?
[09:59] <the_hammer> lol
[09:59] <BluesKaj> mefisto__, check sys/settings/sound system/hardware/autodetect
[09:59] <firecrotch> keldon85:  are you trying to resize an NTFS partition or something?
[10:00] <zorglu_> intelikey: well when you start amarok/konversation/kopete you got a small icon in the taskbar
[10:00] <mefisto__> BluesKaj: is that a file? or a command?
[10:00] <zorglu_> intelikey: how to reduce the size of those icones
[10:00] <keldon85> no, I'm just trying to install kubuntu at the moment; there already exists an NTFS partition but I am not trying to resize it
[10:00] <BluesKaj> it's in the k-menu , mefisto__
[10:00] <keldon85> I just want to make use of the existing linux partitions
[10:00] <zorglu_> intelikey: i got a single row of them because they are too large, and this use useless space
[10:00] <intelikey> zorglu_ mmm make the taskbar smaller ?
[10:01] <eyedol59> hello to everyone!
[10:01] <zorglu_> intelikey: nope their size doesnt change
[10:01] <firecrotch> keldon85:  Just let the installer do the partitioning.
[10:01] <ScarFreewill> whats the console cmd to launch java web start?
[10:01] <keldon85> as long as it leaves my other partitions I don't mind
[10:01] <luca_b> ScarFreewill: javaws
[10:01] <intelikey> zorglu_ i've never encountered that.   if jucato was around he could tell ya
[10:01] <zorglu_> intelikey: kcontrol -> appearance -> icon -> advanced -> panel and this is the only one for which the size is NOT tunable :)
[10:02] <zorglu_> intelikey: ok i will ask him
[10:02] <intelikey> stdin maybe too
[10:02] <lunchbox> how do I use PHP mail, if I dont have a local mail server
[10:02] <mefisto__> BluesKaj: and what am I checking? it's set to autodetect
[10:02] <firecrotch> keldon85: it will ask you how you want to install it (either completely overwrite everything or put Kubuntu alongside Windows)
[10:02] <orient2000> for icons and a bar  -  system settings, appearance, icons
[10:02] <eyedol59> could anybody please tell me what i need to install in order to build a C program that needs the stdio header?
[10:02] <andrea_> www.freepenguin.135.it
[10:03] <firecrotch> keldon85:  It will ask how much space you want to leave for Windows, also
[10:03] <zorglu_> orient2000: yep but same things than thru kcontrol directly, aka you cant change the size of panel icon
[10:03] <luca_b> eyedol59: a "sudo apt-get install build-essential" will get the packages you need
[10:03] <BluesKaj> mefisto__, check the general tab thereand see what settings are turned on
[10:03] <intelikey> more errors from kde... trying to create local folder /root/share: Not a directory
[10:03] <keldon85> firecrothc: the only options it has is 1: resize partition #5 and use freed space, Erase entire disk and manually edit
[10:03] <intelikey> trying to create local folder /root/socket-ibm300pl: Not a directory
[10:04] <intelikey> kdeinit: Aborting. No write access to '/root/.ICEauthority'.
[10:04] <intelikey> QSettings: error creating /root/.qt
[10:04] <keldon85> firecrotch: as long as partition #5 is my existing linux partition that would be fine
[10:04] <firecrotch> keldon85:  Well, what is your existing one?
[10:04] <mefisto__> BluesKaj: all settings are default. As I said, sometimes it boots up and works, sometimes there is no sound.
[10:05] <ScarFreewill> is it possable to let java apps run with alsa?
[10:05] <eyedol59> luca_b: thank you very much!
[10:05] <keldon85> firecrotch: I have no idea what is at partition #5, but I suspect it is one of my windows partitions because the size of it is too large
[10:06] <BluesKaj> then mefisto__ it could be a hardware prob, like your spkr connections
[10:06] <zorglu_> !java
[10:06] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[10:06] <keldon85> it is 231.2GB; so it doesn't seem to have seen my existing linux partitions
[10:06] <faLUCE> Hi. I'm trying to install linuxtv-dvb on a 2.6.17-10-generic. It gives me several compilation errors (for example: i had to change, in srcs, a macro called "MODULE_PARM" with "module_param"),,, so i ask: which is the correct way of proceeding? i should patch the kernel or the source code of the drivers? thnks
[10:06] <mefisto__> BluesKaj: no, it can't be a hardware problem. The hardware is fine. It works in windows, and works half the time in kubuntu
[10:07] <zorglu_> !java6
[10:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about java6 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:07] <keldon85> zorglu_: once you follow the instructions given from java you should be able to pick up java 1.6
[10:08] <zorglu_> keldon85: currently trying to get ride of gcj :)
[10:08] <ubuntu> &nick alkemist
[10:09] <keldon85> ubuntu: be careful not to make the mistake of writing &msg NickServ IDENTIFY ****
[10:09] <keldon85> ^_^
[10:09] <BluesKaj> well mefisto__ , sorry that's as much as i can help , I can't think of anything else except to check the alsamixer in the k-menu
[10:10] <distro-tester> who knows how to use tcpspy here and if t's gui?
[10:10] <ubuntu> &server irc.tin.it
[10:10] <intelikey> revealing a plain text passwd ...
[10:10] <keldon85> ubuntu: have you configured your keyboard to your locale?
[10:10] <ScarFreewill> i don't get it they call gcj free java and they call sun java Proprietary why? both is gpl is it not?
[10:10] <mefisto__> BluesKaj: I don't have alsamixer in kmenu. do you mean alsamixer in console?
[10:10] <intelikey> & != /
[10:11] <luca_b> keldon85: I think he's just pushing the wrong key, probably shift+6 instead of shift+7 (which is / on an Italian keyboard)
[10:11] <intelikey> / != &
[10:11] <BluesKaj> ok try that
[10:11] <luca_b> and shift + 6 gives &
[10:11] <intelikey> 7 here
[10:11] <keldon85> ScarFreewill: both are free, and Java
[10:11] <keldon85> does have it's source for it's classes on gpl; but I don't think the core VM is open source
[10:12] <keldon85> that part [I believe]  is still proprietry
[10:12] <zorglu_> arg eclipse is ugly :)
[10:12] <luca_b> keldon85: Some more parts will be opened throughout this year, but I don't remember which
[10:12] <zorglu_> something is wrong in gtk somehow :)
[10:12] <keldon85> zorglu_: refrain from such blasphemy !!! ^_^
[10:12] <eMish_> I can't find 'mplayer' package.
[10:12] <luca_b> !mplayer
[10:12] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[10:12] <zorglu_> keldon85: it was fine in dapper, i miss something
[10:12] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[10:12] <adaptr> !mplayer
[10:13] <keldon85> luca_b: hmmm, well it's free anyway; but how does it shape up in comparison to the mono VM speedwise?
[10:13] <mefisto__> BluesKaj: I've tried that, but don't know if I can select which soundcard alsamixer uses. it's currently displaying the one I don't want
[10:13] <Kristophe> anyone know how to install dansguardian without clamav?
[10:13] <luca_b> keldon85: I am not sure, but I've never tried mono (my opinions on that can't be expressed)
[10:14] <eMish_> !enable multiverse repo
[10:14] <eMish_> [grimly]  How do I enable the multiverse repo ?
[10:15] <luca_b> eMish_: You need to add a line to the /etc/apt/sources.list (I don't know how to do that via GUI, I always edit it in commandline)
[10:16] <keldon85> but it looks like I will be forced to stick with suse, and their community is (unfortunately) disencouragine
[10:16] <intelikey> !repos
[10:16] <keldon85> *disencouraging
[10:16] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:16] <BluesKaj> mefisto__, maybe someone more knowldgeable than me can help you ...I've run out of suggestions except to use the soundcard that works , not the one that you want :)
[10:16] <eMish_> ok
[10:16] <ScarFreewill> http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml when i go there it tells me i have the latest version of java i've got 150_08 and 6 is out :P
[10:17] <eMish_> How do I switch default broser from konqueror to firefox (I already install ff) ?
[10:17] <andrej_> yes
[10:17] <mefisto__> BluesKaj: even if I did use the other soundcard, half the time kubuntu would boot up using the other one
[10:17] <SeanTater> eMish_: try configuring "KDE Components"
[10:18] <eMish_> ok
[10:18] <mefisto__> I remember when I had dapper installed, someone told me how to add a soundcard to a blacklist, so that it is NOT used at all. does anyone know how that is done?
[10:19] <BluesKaj> mefisto__, then remove one soundcard and it might default to the one that's connected
[10:19] <eMish_> SeanTater: for "KDE COmponents" in ?
[10:19] <luca_b> mefisto__: You need to add the module to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[10:19] <SeanTater> eMish_: It's in kcontrol -- I don't know about "System Settings"
[10:19] <mefisto__> thanks luca_b!!!!
[10:19] <luca_b> mefisto__: using the syntax "blackist <modulename>"
[10:19] <eMish_> tx
[10:20] <zorglu_> hmm ok so the upgrade went pretty well
[10:20] <luca_b> errr
[10:20] <zorglu_> just the appearance remain a problem after a one day :)
[10:20] <luca_b> I meant blacklist
[10:20] <luca_b> not blackist
[10:20] <SeanTater> eMish_: Alt-F2 -> kcontrol -> KDE Components -> File Manager -> Web Browser
[10:21] <keldon85> ok well maybe the next distro of kubuntu will be okay; so see you all then!!!
[10:21] <keldon85> bye
[10:22] <timohei> whois _anna_
[10:22] <SeanTater> timohei: do "/whois _anna_" (note the shash)
[10:23] <SeanTater> timohei: /slash/
[10:23] <timohei> oops :)
[10:24] <slyfox> Help. I have a file ending in ".chm" HTML help file, what in Linux can open it ?
[10:24] <luca_b> slyfox: Last time I checked there was some command line tool
[10:25] <slyfox> luca_b: that hard...
[10:25] <luca_b> slyfox: one sec, I'm checking
[10:25] <luca_b> !kchmviewer
[10:25] <ubotu> kchmviewer: CHM viewer for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 200 kB, installed size 624 kB
[10:26] <inteliwasp> what is the diffrence between remove and purge?
[10:26] <luca_b> inteliwasp: remove merely uninstalls
[10:26] <slyfox> luca_b: thank you, let me see
[10:26] <luca_b> inteliwasp: purge removes also config files
[10:26] <SeanTater> inteliwasp: purge removes the configuration files
[10:26] <BluesKaj> !blacklist
[10:26] <ubotu> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add "blacklist modulename" to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type "sudo update-initramfs -u"
[10:26] <inteliwasp> thanks
[10:26] <SeanTater> inteliwasp: if you're worried about wasted space apt-get clean would be good too
[10:27] <phobiac> What does grub error 15 mean and how can I fix it?
[10:27] <luca_b> phobiac: What kind of hardware are you using?
[10:27] <SeanTater> phobiac: http://www.experts-exchange.com/Operating_Systems/Linux/Linux_Setup/Q_21772531.html
[10:27] <phobiac> luca_b: Which piece of hardware? It's a gateway computer.
[10:27] <SeanTater> phobiac: oops
[10:27] <luca_b> luca_b: motherboard and CPU
[10:27] <SeanTater> phobiac: nevermind
[10:27] <luca_b> er
[10:28] <luca_b> phobiac: I mean, which CPU do you run?
[10:28] <inteliwasp> SeanTater:  not not space i am concerend about, it's the bad upgrade i did comming from 6.061 to 6.10
[10:28] <phobiac> AMD Turion if I remember correctly
[10:28] <slyfox> luca_b: THank you. It worked !
[10:28] <d03boy> how can I transfer files through ssh?
[10:28] <carsten_> scp
[10:28] <d03boy> oh nevermind, I forgot I am on windows
[10:28] <d03boy> using putty :\
[10:28] <carsten_> winscp :-)
[10:28] <d03boy> k dont think it woul handle that
[10:28] <luca_b> d03boy: via gui, use fish://<host name> if you use KDE
[10:29] <d03boy> fish?
[10:29] <SeanTater> d03boy: sftp is faster
[10:29] <francis> bonsoir amis du soir
[10:29] <d03boy> i like luca's idea I think........... im not sure though
[10:29] <SeanTater> !fr > francis
[10:29] <phobiac> luca_b: It's AMD Turion if I remember correctly
[10:29] <d03boy> i want to share files from my linux laptop to the network
[10:29] <luca_b> phobiac: Hmm, remember the motherboard?
[10:29] <phobiac> luca_b: Not off the top of my head
[10:29] <luca_b> d03boy: best would be setting up "samba" for Windows Networking
[10:30] <d03boy> is there a very very fast and simple way to do that?
[10:30] <luca_b> phobiac: Normal installation and all? No problems?
[10:30] <ScarFreewill> !ping
[10:30] <ubotu> pong
[10:30] <phobiac> Could this...could this have anything to do with the changes to the partitions I just made?
[10:30] <d03boy> i need something in less than about 5 min
[10:30] <luca_b> phobiac: Yes, probably yes
[10:30] <phobiac> Ugh I hope gparted didn't mess up the copying.
[10:30] <luca_b> phobiac: if the partition names have changed, grub won't be able to find its files
[10:30] <phobiac> At least it was only my /home and windows that potentionly got messed.
[10:30] <luca_b> phobiac: Unless you adjust its config
[10:31] <phobiac> I don't *think* they changed, but might as well try. How can I adjust the config?
[10:31] <eMish_> When I do 'apt-get search .', does it list *installed* pkgs, or all available for install ?
[10:31] <phobiac> I've got a live CD if that helps.
[10:31] <d03boy> apt-cache
[10:31] <luca_b> phobiac: You need to check the partitions first
[10:31] <eMish_> yes, apt-cache
[10:31] <coreymon77> eMish_: the command is apt-cache search
[10:31] <eMish_> yes
[10:31] <SeanTater> eMish_: all available
[10:31] <phobiac> luca_b: How do I do that from grub?
[10:31] <coreymon77> and it lists all packages
[10:31] <luca_b> phobiac: load the live CD
[10:32] <coreymon77> installed and available
[10:32] <phobiac> Ah okay
[10:32] <eMish_> ok
[10:32] <mefisto__> thanks luca_b and BluesKaj for your help. I'll reboot now. Pretty sure the blacklisting will work
[10:32] <eMish_> How do I list my installed pkgs ?
[10:32] <BluesKaj> cool mefisto__ , good luck :)
[10:32] <luca_b> phobiac: then you can use fdisk -l from command line to see all the partitions if I recall
[10:32] <phobiac> Okay, thanks.
[10:32] <SeanTater> eMish_: dpkg -l does installed
[10:32] <eMish_> tx
[10:33] <luca_b> phobiac: then check <your boot partition>/boot/grub/menu.list and see if the lines pointing to the kernel and all are OK
[10:33] <luca_b> phobiac-away: you'll probably need to mount that partition somewhere to look at it
[10:35] <intelikey> http://tinyurl.com/36uje8  linux driver don't seem to exist...
[10:36] <angiolino> ciao a tutti
[10:36] <luca_b> !it
[10:36] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:36] <angiolino> ho un problema con i kipi-plugin, qualcuno mi pu aiutare?
[10:37] <d03boy> wow winscp rocks
[10:38] <phobiac> Okay uh, fdisk-l doesn't do anything. The partitions probably aren't mounted though.
[10:38] <luca_b> phobiac: I wasgoing from memory
[10:38] <luca_b> oh
[10:38] <phobiac> luca_b: No problem
[10:38] <sleepy745> what's new in the newest kde version? what kinds of features, etc?
[10:38] <luca_b> needs to be executed as root or through sudo
[10:38] <BluesKaj> !kde
[10:38] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[10:39] <phobiac> Aha, that works.
[10:39] <phobiac> No the partitions seem to be all in the right order.
[10:39] <luca_b> phobiac: even the *names*?
[10:39] <phobiac> hda1 is ntfs, hda2 is Linux, hda3 is also Linux but I didn't touch that one.
[10:40] <phobiac> Yeah
[10:40] <luca_b> phobiac: often grub messes up when /dev/hda1 becomes /dev/hda2 and vice versa
[10:40] <phobiac> Nope they weren't switched
[10:40] <AxlRose> I have a Radeon 9600xt, are the fgl drivers better than the standard atiu drivers that come with X
[10:40] <AxlRose> *ati
[10:41] <luca_b> phobiac:  mount your boot partition and use the pastebin to paste the boot/grub/menu.list
[10:41] <luca_b> AxlRose: depends on what you mean by "better"
[10:41] <AxlRose> luca_b: better performance...you know...overall better
[10:42] <luca_b> AxlRose: fglrx MAY be better for performance, but it's somewhat buggy by itself
[10:42] <AxlRose> luca_b: what about the radeon drivers
[10:42] <luca_b> AxlRose: I'm forced to use fglrx but it makes suspend/hibernate unusable on my laptop due to a long standing bugs
[10:43] <luca_b> AxlRose: performance-wise they're worse, but usually they integrate better
[10:43] <AxlRose> luca_b:  I tried messing with them(radeon)...but then I couldn't change resolution and refresh rate in the KDE system settings
[10:43] <luca_b> AxlRose: Also, they're free (as in freedom)
[10:43] <nagyv> hello! Does anyone know about an application to organize a personal (academic) library? At least with search and annotations/summary feature? If not, do you know about a possible environment to build on? (I was thinking of scrollkeeper, but can not really search in it I think)
[10:43] <luca_b> nagyv: Did you look at tellico?
[10:44] <AxlRose> luca_b: is there a reason the radeon drivers don't work with the KDE system settings application?
[10:44] <DaSkreech> Why would a folder be renamed folder.bak?
[10:44] <luca_b> AxlRose: Unsure, as I said I'm forced to use fglrx
[10:45] <luca_b> phobiac: I forgot to ask... when grub gives error 15, you're given a prompt?
[10:45] <mefisto__> the blacklisting did the trick. I rebooted a few times to be sure. Just for future reference, the lsmod command lists all the loaded modules that I could add to the blacklist, correct?
[10:45] <underdog5004> boo, ati
[10:45] <phobiac> luca_b: No no prompt, and the fstab for the live CD doesn't have my partition in it.
[10:45] <AxlRose> luca_b: ok...another question...isn't glxgears supposed to show FPS
[10:45] <underdog5004> I've got a rage card...can't get accelerated 3d to work to save my life!
[10:45] <luca_b> AxlRose: --showfps
[10:46] <luca_b> phobiac: try creating a mount point manually like
[10:46] <AxlRose> luca_b: it says unknown parameter
[10:46] <DaSkreech> !filesystem
[10:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about filesystem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:46] <XVampireX> Does anyone here use wireless?
[10:46] <DaSkreech> !xfs
[10:46] <ubotu> xfs: X font server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 53 kB, installed size 192 kB
[10:46] <XVampireX> !wireless
[10:46] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:46] <underdog5004> XVampireX, i do
[10:46] <XVampireX> what card?
[10:46] <luca_b> phobiac: sudo mkdir /mnt/tmp && sudo mount <dev> /mnt/tmp
[10:47] <phobiac> Uhm uh oh
[10:47] <underdog5004> umm...Rlink, I think...h/o
[10:47] <phobiac> I think I found my problem.
[10:47] <luca_b> phobiac: what would that be?
[10:47] <nagyv> luca_b: it seems to be a bit more than I need :) it's already installing!
[10:47] <XVampireX> underdog5004: Does it work with ubuntu?
[10:47] <inteliwasp> how can i make the scrolling action stay only on the scrolling side of the touchpad?
[10:47] <DaSkreech> !ext3
[10:47] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[10:47] <underdog5004> XVampireX, RaLink RT2500 802.11g Cardbus/mini-PCI (rev 01)
[10:47] <DaSkreech> !reiser
[10:47] <ubotu> reiserfs is a journalling file system, in benchmarks it outperforms many others on I/O operations, but they take notoriously long to mount.
[10:47] <underdog5004> XVampireX, beautifully
[10:47] <luca_b> nagyv: I read good reports about it, so I thought I could suggest it
[10:48] <DaSkreech> Blast
[10:48] <XVampireX> underdog5004: Did you have to do anything special or autodetected and works out of the box?
[10:48] <underdog5004> I prefer the zyxcel wireless card...has a penguin on the case
[10:48] <phobiac> It looks like when gparted was moving around the two partitions, it involved copying and pasting contents and then delteing the original, it messed up somewhere.
[10:48] <DaSkreech> can I convert a Partition to a new filesystem non destructively?
[10:48] <underdog5004> XVampireX, autodetected
[10:48] <XVampireX> Hmm
[10:48] <luca_b> phobiac:  as in partition contents?
[10:48] <AxlRose> luca_b: the reason I ask about glxgears framerate is because with fgl_glxgears I get about 600fps but regualar glxgears looks slow, but i can't get an exact number because the FPS doesn't show up
[10:48] <XVampireX> which ubuntu version?
[10:48] <XVampireX> I need one that works with D-Link DWL G630
[10:49] <phobiac> There was about 6.5 GB of data on the one partiton and 6 on the other...both of them (according to gparted) have only about half a gig on them.
[10:49] <surgy> HI~!!!!!!~!!!
[10:49] <luca_b> AxlRose: checking
[10:49] <luca_b> phobiac: Uh oh
[10:49] <phobiac> No wait, make that only about 4.5 mb on my windows partition.
[10:50] <underdog5004> XVampireX, I'm using edgy, but it worked in Dapper as well
[10:50] <phobiac> Looks like I'll be reinstalling windows and linux. Oh well. At least everything of value was on the third untouched partition.
[10:50] <underdog5004> XVampireX, if it works in dapper, you can make it work in edgy.
[10:50] <phobiac> This sucks
[10:50] <luca_b> AxlRose: sorry about that, is -printfps
[10:51] <luca_b> phobiac:  you had /home on a separate partition?
[10:51] <XVampireX> I tried the install cd dapper drake (yes, before desktop cd) and that didn't detect it.
[10:51] <phobiac> luca_b: Yeah
[10:51] <luca_b> phobiac: Good move
[10:51] <phobiac> I'm glad I did too
[10:51] <AxlRose> luca_b: hmm still unknown parameter :S
[10:51] <XVampireX> so maybe if I try edgy....
[10:51] <luca_b> AxlRose: odd
[10:52] <underdog5004> XVampireX, did you google around to see if anyone else has installed your card on ubuntu?
[10:52] <XVampireX> no, but gonna do it now :D
[10:52] <XVampireX> It's not mine, it's for my father :D
[10:52] <phobiac> I also had an issue last night that  prompted me to move a bunch of music over from my windows partition to that seperate one. I'm glad that happened.
[10:53] <luca_b> AxlRose: LOL, I found the parameter
[10:53] <luca_b> AxlRose: -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[10:53] <luca_b> NO kidding
[10:53] <underdog5004> XVampireX, ah
[10:53] <luca_b> I just tested it
[10:53] <zorglu_> q. anybody knows what was the name of the dapper theme ? and window decoration ?
[10:54] <DaSkreech> human
[10:54] <zorglu_> thanks
[10:54] <AxlRose> luca_b: haha thank you....I'm only getting about 265 fps comared to fgl_glxgears' 600
[10:54] <zorglu_> now i just have to find a way to put it back on edgy :)
[10:55] <AxlRose> luca_b: is that normal
[10:55] <mefisto__> zorglu_: I think the window decoration was crystal
[10:55] <luca_b> AxlRose: glxgears -info -iack..etc etc -fullscreen
[10:55] <luca_b> use ctrl-c to exit
[10:55] <mefisto__> zorglu_: still is crystal in edgy
[10:56] <zorglu_> mefisto__: the one in edgy is called 'crystal' too, but it is clearly not the same. the one in edgy put some color effect in the title which make it hard to read
[10:56] <simmerz> i can't seem to get my 1066MHz P3 to go higher than 733MHz. any ideas?
[10:56] <simmerz> standard kubuntu edgy install
[10:56] <zorglu_> i dont understand why edgy ships with a lot of useless theme, like 10years old stuff, but not the one of the previous version
[10:57] <AxlRose> luca_b: still same fps
[10:57] <AxlRose> luca_b: 265
[10:57] <mefisto__> zorglu_: try disabling the overlay in system settings
[10:57] <zorglu_> wow!
[10:57] <zorglu_> MUCH better :)
[10:58] <zorglu_> mefisto__: thanks
[10:58] <luca_b> AxlRose: Unsure abotu that
[10:58] <Skrot-> Hi. Which deamon does Kubuntu use to regulate CPU-speed by default?
[10:58] <AxlRose> luca_b: alright thanks for the help
[10:58] <luca_b> Skrot-: depends on Kubuntu version
[10:58] <Skrot-> luca_b: edgy
[10:59] <luca_b> Skrot-: the guidance powermanager uses dbus
[10:59] <luca_b> Skrot-: can't set profiles yet (like "performance", or "conserve power"), that will be in feisty
[10:59] <simmerz> I can't get my processor to go full speed. how do i do that?
[11:00] <Skrot-> luca_b:  Okay. What about voltage control?
[11:00] <underdog5004> luca_b, that'll be sweet
[11:00] <faLUCE> hi. i'm trying to install linux dvb on 2.6.17-10-generic kernel (kubuntu). I had to change several lines of the srcs in order to resolve some compiler's error, but now i have this one which i can't solve: dvb_net.c:81: error: union <anonymous> has no member named ethernet. In fact, a kernel header (skbuff.h) contains a struct with a field (mac) which doesn't match to what the src requires... what should i do?
[11:00] <faLUCE> thnks
[11:00] <luca_b> Skrot-: on centrino arches, the patches are still highly experimental and not in any kernel tree
[11:00] <Skrot-> okay
[11:00] <luca_b> Skrot-: there is risk to damage to the HW still
[11:00] <Skrot-> I see :)
[11:01] <luca_b> Skrot-: Also I've read mixed reports for voltage scaling
[11:01] <the_hammer> getting the most updated kerns is easy with kubuntu
[11:01] <AxlRose> anyone know of a good guide to get beryl to work with KDE
[11:01] <simmerz> so no way to get my processor to run at full speed??
[11:01] <luca_b> AxlRose: in the beryl wiki, follow the instructions to install beryl
[11:01] <ihope> With the Kubuntu live CD, is the hard drive actually mounted anywhere at startup?
[11:02] <luca_b> AxlRose: then use "aquamarine" as window manager instead of emerald, and make sure you auto start beryl-manager
[11:02] <Skrot-> luca_b: Speaking of feisty, will usplash support higher resolution and more colors?
[11:02] <luca_b> ihope: I don't think drives are mounted by dfault
[11:02] <luca_b> Skrot-: Unsure about that
[11:02] <Skrot-> okay :)
[11:02] <XVampireX> underdog5004: It appears to be an atheros chipset and: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsDlink
[11:02] <XVampireX> underdog5004: This indicates that it appears to be having native support in edgy :D
[11:02] <AxlRose> luca_b:  where does start beryl-manager go?
[11:03] <simmerz> so no one wants to answer my question then?
[11:03] <luca_b> AxlRose: you can either create a symlink in .kde/Autostart
[11:03] <Skrot-> simmerz: what sort of CPU?
[11:03] <ihope> Actually, now that I think about it, the hard drive wouldn't be mounted anywhere. It has no partitions.
[11:03] <luca_b> AxlRose: or you save the session with it active
[11:03] <luca_b> ihope: but by default, no drives are mounted, AFAIK
[11:03] <luca_b> but I could be wrong, I never use the live CD to install
[11:03] <simmerz> Skrot-: as I said P3 1066MHz
[11:04] <luca_b> simmerz: does that P3 actually support speed scaling?
[11:04] <simmerz> it has two scaling frequencies.
[11:04] <Skrot-> simmerz: Okay, does "cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_max_freq" return anything?
[11:04] <simmerz> 733 and 1GHz
[11:04] <mefisto__> luca_b: I think you're right. no other hd are mounted by default
[11:04] <AxlRose> luca_b:  is this the guide I follow Install Beryl on Ubuntu Edgy with XGL
[11:04] <luca_b> AxlRose: oops
[11:04] <luca_b> AxlRose: I forgot about XGL.... you have an ATI card indeed
[11:05] <luca_b> AxlRose: you only have that option, yes
[11:05] <simmerz> Skrot-: returns 1066000
[11:05] <Skrot-> wtf =)
[11:05] <simmerz> currently running a 733000 though
[11:06] <Skrot-> okai
[11:06] <Skrot-> What does "cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor" say?
[11:06] <simmerz> Skrot-: ondemand
[11:06] <Skrot-> simmerz: Then the CPU should go to 1GHz when there is demand for it
[11:06] <faLUCE> i've found the deb packages of linuxtv-dvb in /pub/ubuntu/archive/pool/universe/l/linuxtv-dvb . Now: how can i install the packages with adept? I don't find them in the source list
[11:06] <simmerz> Skrot-: hmmm
[11:07] <Skrot-> simmerz: If you want it to always stay at 1GHz, check "cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_governors"
[11:07] <AxlRose> luca_b:  dumb qustion....is fgl just OpenGL or what
[11:07] <luca_b> !repos
[11:07] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:07] <simmerz> ondemand and performance, but i just killed off a load of modules
[11:07] <luca_b> AxlRose: XGL is a (custom) X server that talks OpenGL directly with the card
[11:07] <Dimajan>  !   ? :)
[11:07] <simmerz> all the machine does it run as a music player, but its struggling to add the music collection to amarok - keeps crashing
[11:08] <Skrot-> simmerz: "sudo echo performance > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor" methinks
[11:08] <Skrot-> hm.. sudo doesnt seem to handle it very well
[11:08] <luca_b> Skrot-: sudo su will do it
[11:09] <luca_b> Skrot-: then using the command directly as root
[11:09] <faLUCE> ubotu: ok but which is the corresponding line that i shuold add to the repos list, in adept, corresponding to /pub/ubuntu/archive/pool/universe/ ?
[11:09] <AxlRose> luca_b:  so can i use XGL to run regular KDE then
[11:09] <luca_b> AxlRose: yes
[11:09] <simmerz> yep that did it.
[11:09] <Skrot-> Could you do: sudo su -c "echo performance > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor" ? :)
[11:09] <simmerz> Skrot-: i'm already sudo bash'ed
[11:09] <luca_b> faLUCE: in what country are you located? (so I get the right mirror)
[11:09] <AxlRose> luca_b:  will it perform better then?
[11:09] <faLUCE> luca_b: italy
[11:09] <Kristophe> how to go back from an xgl x server to the classic xorg server?
[11:09] <faLUCE> italiano anche tu, giusto?
[11:10] <Skrot-> simmerz: If you add "performance" to the "scaling_governor" it should stay at 1Ghz
[11:10] <luca_b> faLUCE: deb http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu universe
[11:10] <Skrot-> Atleast it does on my computer
[11:10] <simmerz> Skrot-: yep it does
[11:10] <Skrot-> good =)
[11:10] <simmerz> Skrot-: so how do i do that permanently?
[11:10] <luca_b> AxlRose: I'm not a big fan of XGL myself
[11:10] <Skrot-> It should be permanently now
[11:10] <luca_b> AxlRose: I see it as a hack
[11:10] <simmerz> Skrot-: only until reboot
[11:11] <AxlRose> luca_b: Is it something simple to set up or  is it a huge process
[11:11] <Skrot-> simmerz: hum. Not sure about that
[11:11] <faLUCE> luca_b: i already have it. but linuxtv-dvb doesn't appear in the list
[11:11] <luca_b> AxlRose: simpler than in the past but IMO not for the faint of heart
[11:12] <luca_b> !linuxtv-dvb
[11:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linuxtv-dvb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:12] <AxlRose> luca_b: screw it then :P....I assume not many people use it?
[11:12] <simmerz> i just need to add it to a script somewhere. is there somewhere i can add it that is run during the boot process?
[11:12] <faLUCE> luca_b: are you italian or what?:)
[11:12] <luca_b> AxlRose: unsure, I put off beryl for now
[11:12] <luca_b> faLUCE: yes
[11:13] <zorglu_> kde is nice for its configurability :)
[11:13] <zorglu_> the point is to know where is the stuff to change :)
[11:14] <luca_b> faLUCE: That package doesn't exist on official repos
[11:14] <faLUCE> luca_b: ok and how can i install the packages directly from the http url instead of a repo added in source list?
[11:14] <luca_b> faLUCE:  can you give me the address of where you found it?
[11:14] <luca_b> faLUCE: Not recommended as dependencies would be unmet
[11:14] <faLUCE> http://ftp.interlegis.gov.br/pub/ubuntu/archive/pool/universe/l/linuxtv-dvb/
[11:14] <faLUCE> luca_b: ok, but i would try
[11:15] <lz1gjd> hello, is there a linux version of worldwind ?
[11:16] <phobiac>  Well I've got Linux reinstalled. Only thing I lost that was worth anything to me were my firefox bookmarks. I'm going to start backing those up to that third partition.
[11:16] <lz1gjd> !worldwind
[11:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about worldwind - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:16] <Kesha_NNM> !ru
[11:16] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[11:17] <luca_b> faLUCE: did you try dvb-utils?
[11:18] <luca_b> !dvb-utils
[11:18] <ubotu> dvb-utils: Viewer programs for DVB cards. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1.1-2 (edgy), package size 101 kB, installed size 1308 kB
[11:18] <luca_b> I think it has been renamed
[11:18] <simmerz> phobiac: you had a look at foxmarks extension to firefox?
[11:18] <BluesKaj> Skrot-, I've been following your cpu performance commands , but nothing changed on my CPU , it's still set at "powersave ondemand conservative performance".. I'd aslo like to speed things up since my CPU is 2Gig and the pc seems slow at times
[11:18] <phobiac> simmerz: Never head of foxmarks. I was considering just using FEBE for schedelued backups.
[11:19] <luca_b> faLUCE: exactly, it is now dvb-utils, I checked
[11:19] <Skrot-> BluesKaj: I've got Core 2 Duo 2.0Ghz, and I've set both /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor and /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu1/cpufreq/scaling_governor to "ondemand". Most of the time both cores stay at 1Ghz
[11:19] <simmerz> phobiac: foxmarks syncs your bookmarks with a server. allows you to have more than one computer with the same bookmarks all the time
[11:19] <faLUCE> luca_b: no. in the list of files of dvb-utils i can't see linuxtv-dvb
[11:19] <BluesKaj> Skrot-, Im running an AMD64 Venice 3200+
[11:19] <mefisto__> phobiac: I keep firefox bookmarks on a separate partition, and have a link to that bookmarks.html in the firefox profile. that way it's automatically saved
[11:19] <zorglu_> q. any way to make kdesu remember my password for a while (as it is done for sudo) ?
[11:19] <Skrot-> BluesKaj: Workstation?
[11:19] <luca_b> faLUCE: linuxtv-dvb is the name of the source package, not of the binary one
[11:20] <BluesKaj> nope , Skrot- , home pc
[11:20] <simmerz> phobiac: like at work i added a couple of bookmarks today - instead of emailing them home, i just come home and fire up firefox and there they are
[11:20] <Skrot-> BluesKaj: Is it multi core?
[11:20] <MrKimm> Hello people, I have a rely easy but important question about KDE...
[11:20] <BluesKaj> no, just AMD64 Venice 3200+
[11:20] <faLUCE> luca_b: there are too few files in dvb-utils. i doubt it corresponds to linuxtv-dvb
[11:20] <MrKimm> Where do I change my screen resolution?
[11:20] <Skrot-> BluesKaj: sudo su -c "echo performance > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor" should do the trick
[11:21] <phobiac> Hmm, foxmarks sounds interesting. I'll look into that. Thanks.
[11:21] <luca_b> faLUCE: dvb-driver-source is the only package generated by linux-dvb-utils
[11:21] <simmerz> phobiac: np
[11:21] <luca_b> faLUCE: Got the package name wrong, but you know what I mean
[11:21] <phobiac> Now I get to spend time reconfiguring my ATI card for beryl. Doesn't that sound fun.
[11:21] <mefisto__> MrKimm: system settings > monitor and display
[11:22] <luca_b> ok, got to head off, see you
[11:22] <MrKimm> I dont have "monitor and display" :S I'm running kde-core btw
[11:22] <BluesKaj> Skrot-, it doesn't seem to do anything when using that command ...just an > in the terminal ...doesn't return to user@pc
[11:23] <mefisto__> MrKimm: do you have "Display"?
[11:23] <phobiac> Well, bye all for now.
[11:23] <Skrot-> BluesKaj: hum
[11:23] <Skrot-> BluesKaj: You didn't remove the "'s?
[11:23] <MrKimm> mefisto_, I dont :/
[11:24] <ubuntu> hi i got a  prob
[11:24] <ubuntu> well 2 probs
[11:24] <ubuntu> 1. whz i cant create partotion if i have linux and win ?
[11:24] <kyle__> hi everyone, I have a problem: My kubuntu works veryfine except for when I move windows it lags and my CPU peaks to 100% I think it's my graphics drivers, but I'm not sure.
[11:24] <ubuntu> 2. if i used sudo dd=/dev/hdb3 of=/dev/hdb4 will be hdb3 stired in hdb4 as iso file?
[11:25] <yamathan> Hmm, I'm trying to find that aticonfig --initial command I need to do regarding the Xv extension ...
[11:25] <yamathan> Does anyone know it off the top of their head?
[11:25] <AxlRose> luca_b: is it possible I can't use beryl haha
[11:25] <BluesKaj> Skrot-, which  "s" ?
[11:25] <AxlRose> luca_b: it's telling me I have no composite extension
[11:25] <mefisto__> MrKimm: try it in konqueror. go to "settings:/Peripherals/"
[11:26] <Skrot-> BluesKaj: Not an s, the ""<- thingies
[11:26] <AxlRose> luca_b: and I had to disable composite to get DRI to work
[11:26] <eMish_> I enabled multiverse repo, did 'apt-get install', and still 'apt-get install mplayer' says mlpayer package cannot be found.
[11:26] <ubuntu> if i used sudo dd=/dev/hdb3 of=/dev/hdb4 will be hdb3 stired in hdb4 as iso file?
[11:26] <ubuntu> if i used sudo dd=/dev/hdb3 of=/dev/hdb4 will be hdb3 stired in hdb4 as iso file?
[11:26] <ubuntu> if i used sudo dd=/dev/hdb3 of=/dev/hdb4 will be hdb3 stired in hdb4 as iso file?
[11:26] <ubuntu> if i used sudo dd=/dev/hdb3 of=/dev/hdb4 will be hdb3 stired in hdb4 as iso file?
[11:26] <ubuntu> if i used sudo dd=/dev/hdb3 of=/dev/hdb4 will be hdb3 stired in hdb4 as iso file?
[11:26] <ubuntu> if i used sudo dd=/dev/hdb3 of=/dev/hdb4 will be hdb3 stired in hdb4 as iso file?
[11:26] <ubuntu> if i used sudo dd=/dev/hdb3 of=/dev/hdb4 will be hdb3 stired in hdb4 as iso file?
[11:26] <ubuntu> if i used sudo dd=/dev/hdb3 of=/dev/hdb4 will be hdb3 stired in hdb4 as iso file?
[11:26] <ubuntu> if i used sudo dd=/dev/hdb3 of=/dev/hdb4 will be hdb3 stired in hdb4 as iso file?
[11:26] <ubuntu> if i used sudo dd=/dev/hdb3 of=/dev/hdb4 will be hdb3 stired in hdb4 as iso file?
[11:26] <ubuntu> if i used sudo dd=/dev/hdb3 of=/dev/hdb4 will be hdb3 stired in hdb4 as iso file?
[11:26] <ubuntu> if i used sudo dd=/dev/hdb3 of=/dev/hdb4 will be hdb3 stired in hdb4 as iso file?
[11:26] <yamathan> ...
[11:26] <ubuntu> if i used sudo dd=/dev/hdb3 of=/dev/hdb4 will be hdb3 stired in hdb4 as iso file?
[11:26] <ubuntu> ???
[11:26] <yamathan> What?
[11:26] <HymnToLife> !ops
[11:26] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, or DBO
[11:26] <Skrot-> What about shutting up, ubuntu?
[11:26] <adaptr> !ops
[11:26] <ubuntu> i know it is annoying to read spam buti need answer plz :(
[11:26] <mortici> woot
[11:26] <gnomefreak> ubuntu: use pastebin
[11:26] <adaptr> well, bye bye
[11:26] <Skrot-> ubuntu: You'll get kicked for that.
[11:27] <MrKimm> meifisto__, I only get Keyboard, ice, Printers and Storage media :S
[11:27] <ubuntu> :/
[11:27] <mortici> i just completely cleaned my laptop, took off every key as well :D
[11:27] <gnomefreak> ubuntu: pasteing in the channel wont get you an answer
[11:27] <mortici> she types like a dream :)
[11:27] <AxlRose> anyone here familiar with beryl
[11:27] <ubuntu> i apologize
[11:27] <adaptr> yes
[11:27] <mz_> sorry, someone help me with kxmame?
[11:27] <HymnToLife> !beryl | AxlRose
[11:27] <ubotu> AxlRose: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:27] <yamathan> There's #beryl, too.
[11:27] <mortici> AxlRose: i use it :)
[11:28] <ubuntu> so can anyone answer my question plz_
[11:28] <ubuntu> ?
[11:28] <nickste> is macromedia flash available for 64bit?
[11:28] <alby_> hola
[11:28] <HymnToLife> nickste, not that I'm aware of
[11:28] <HymnToLife> !es | alby_
[11:28] <ubotu> alby_: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[11:28] <AxlRose> Well I am trying to use  bery with KDE and and an ATI card and having probblems
[11:28] <AxlRose> *beryl
[11:28] <nickste> thanks Hymn
[11:28] <mefisto__> MrKimm: what version of kubuntu ?
[11:28] <alby_> i speak english too :p
[11:29] <ubuntu> :(
[11:29] <yamathan> Axl, you and me both.
[11:29] <MrKimm> mefisto__, its kde-core, but I'm running Edgy
[11:29] <alby_> hymntolife hi brother
[11:29] <HymnToLife> AxlRose, as Ubotu told you, support for Beryl is not here
[11:29] <mortici> AxlRose: go to #beryl
[11:29] <mortici> ati needs the open source drivers :)
[11:30] <yamathan> !fglrx
[11:30] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:31] <mefisto__> MrKimm: I'm not that knowledgable about linux, but if kde-core means you don't have the standard kubuntu interface, you could try changing display settings by directly editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:32] <slyfox> Is - use anti-alising for fonts the same as Enable Font Smoothing ?
[11:32] <mefisto__> MrKimm: back up the xorg.conf file first, though
[11:32] <ubuntu> hmm anyone willing help me plz_
[11:32] <MrKimm> mefiso__, I supose... I would like to avoid that though, since I would like to be able to change at whatever time :/
[11:32] <ubuntu> ??
[11:33] <yamathan> Ah, well, I'll be back presently.
[11:34] <ubuntu_> hi, how do I mount my hard disc from the live cd?
[11:34] <eMish_> What's debian alalog of 'chkconfig' command ?
[11:34] <eMish_> ubuntu: mkdir /mnt/hda1; mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1;
[11:36] <ubuntu_> eMish_: mount: special device /dev/hda does not exist... I guess this pc might have a sata drive... how do mount those?
[11:37] <mefisto__> MrKimm: you could try searching for an applet that changes screen res
[11:37] <eMish_> ubuntu_:  /dev/sdaN
[11:38] <MrKimm> mefisto__, that sounds like a good idea, where would I look?
[11:38] <zorglu_> q. i would like to change the image of background of konqueror, where should i look?
[11:38] <mefisto__> MrKimm: adept? or some other package manager you have?
[11:39] <MrKimm> mefisto_, I've been looking in Synaptic for a while, I supose its all I can do for now.
[11:39] <mefisto__> MrKimm: I just looked in adept, typed "resolution" in the search box. there's at least 2 in my list
[11:40] <ubuntu> plz how long does disk backup of 20 gb root partiotion take?
[11:41] <mefisto__> zorglu_: view menu > configure background ?
[11:41] <jarn> Is there a way to tell rm to remove everything but ones matching a string?
[11:41] <jarn> Like if I want to remove everything in a folder besides mp3s, for example?
[11:41] <jarn> I looked in the manual to no avail
[11:42] <mefisto__> MrKimm: search for resapplet in synaptic
[11:42] <zorglu_> mefisto__: thanks again :) i was looking in the 'configure konqueror menu'
[11:42] <MrKimm> mefisto__, found it. But its for GNOME :/
[11:43] <zorglu_> mefisto__: btw my 'panel icon' (the ones from konversation/amarok/kopete) in the taskbar doesnt scale with the size of the taskbar. so i go them on a single row. using more room than necessary
[11:43] <zorglu_> mefisto__: do you have an idea ?
[11:43] <mefisto__> MrKimm: try it. It will probably work
[11:44] <zorglu_> mefisto__: i tried kcontrol -> appearance -> icons -> advanced -> panel but the size is 'greyed out' aka untunable
[11:44] <MrKimm> mefisto__, yeah, bit bet it works, but I cant load a gnome panel applet in Kicker
[11:45] <shriram> hey guys! I followed the instructions here http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide and installed the drivers for my ATI mobility radeon x1300. kdm now freezes on startup. i looked at the thread in the known issues but didn't find a solution. can anyone please help?
[11:49] <ubuntu> ok i need help ply
[11:49] <ubuntu> plz
[11:49] <Tm_T> !helpme
[11:49] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:50] <kyle__> why is kubuntu so slow on my comp?
[11:50] <ubuntu> what do i need to do if i want to backup mz root partiotion to mz home and want it as iso and want have it as large as all root files r
[11:50] <ubuntu> not with free space :S
[11:51] <Tm_T> kyle__: It depends how it slow, also depends what kind of computer you have, also what exactly you're running.
[11:53] <kyle__> I'm running amd64x2 2gig ram and Geforce 6150 LE
[11:53] <kyle__> Sounds like it should work
[11:54] <kyle__> but no
[11:54] <Tm_T> So, what's slow?
[11:55] <kyle__> When I scroll and move windows around
[11:55] <zorglu_> kyle__: i diagnose a graphic driver issue
[11:55] <zorglu_> kyle__: aka your gfx card is not really used
[11:56] <kyle__> Yeah I figured but also thought it might be something else.
[11:56] <Tm_T> kyle__: Hmm, grep nv /etc/X11/xorg.xonf
[11:56] <zorglu_> glxinfo |grep rendering <- type that in a terminal
[11:57] <zorglu_> xvinfo | grep ports <- and that :)
[11:58] <zorglu_> hey after a day, edgy actually look better than dapper :)
[11:58] <Tm_T> zorglu_: I'm moving to feisty in any day now... ;)
[11:58] <Tm_T> That will be a shock I afraid.
[11:59] <zorglu_> Tm_T: me too :) in like 6 month from now :)
[11:59] <rwe> feisty have been stable for a dev. releasre so far
[11:59] <zorglu_> i considere that 4month after the release is the good delay to get the bugs fixed :)
[12:00] <rwe> i remeber before dapper came it was like hell...
[12:00] <kyle_> Hi I'm back... that terminal thing didn't do much
[12:00] <faLUCE> is sys/socket.h kernel's header or just a system's header?
[12:00] <zorglu_> faLUCE: sustem
[12:01] <zorglu_> nothing to do with kernel
[12:01] <zorglu_> kyle_: what was the output
[12:01] <rwe> has anyone seen any release notes from kubuntu yet? for feisty I mean.
[12:01] <kyle_> I didn't get any output. Just screen went blank and restarted my OS
[12:01] <faLUCE> zorgiu_ and pthread.h is a system header too?
[12:01] <kosta2> !j #edubuntu-de
[12:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about j #edubuntu-de - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:01] <zorglu_> kyle_: so you dont have any graphic acceleration
[12:02] <zorglu_> kyle_: that's why it is slow
[12:02] <zorglu_> aka install the driver for your card
[12:02] <faLUCE> zorglu_: but are sys/socket.h and pthread.h used by kernel's api?
[12:02] <kyle_> Thanks
[12:02] <zorglu_> faLUCE: nope
[12:02] <zorglu_> faLUCE: what are you trying to do
[12:03] <faLUCE> zorglu_: nothing , but i would like to know how kernel's api do manage threads and sockets if they don't use pthread and socket.h
[12:04] <slyfox> In Kopete, is it possible somehow to mkae it so that when I close the chat windows my last messages are shown when I reopen it again. Becasue now if I close and open the chat window, everything is gone ?
[12:04] <kyle_> I'm going to try to install drivers
[12:04] <zorglu_> faLUCE: ok :) well for me to explain this is WAY beyond the scope of this channel :)
[12:04] <kyle_> I'll report back if nothing surfaces
[12:04] <zorglu_> faLUCE: but kernel doesnt work like userspace. socket.h and lib pthread are userspace only
[12:04] <zorglu_> faLUCE: userspace = process as you know them
[12:05] <faLUCE> zorglu_: so, kernels manages threads and sockets in a different way?
[12:05] <zorglu_> faLUCE: exactly
[12:06] <faLUCE> zorgiu, but i can't understand why:)
[12:06] <zorglu_> faLUCE: kernel is another world :)
[12:06] <zorglu_> faLUCE: well ok lets take an example
[12:06] <faLUCE> zorgiu, ok but if socket.h and pthread are already provided... why don't use them
[12:06] <faLUCE> ?
[12:07] <zorglu_> faLUCE: you use a socket thru say your web browser, and this web browser talk to the kernel. the goal of the kernel is not to do socket too, but to handleYOUR socket from the web browser
[12:07] <zorglu_> faLUCE: ok lets do it, type "sudo tcpdump -i any eth0 tcp port 80" in a terminal
[12:08] <zorglu_> faLUCE: then open firefox and konqueror and browse the web a bit
[12:08] <faLUCE> tcpdump: WARNING: Promiscuous mode not supported on the "any" device
[12:08] <faLUCE> tcpdump: syntax error
[12:09] <faLUCE> ok zorglu_i understood the sense of what you said
[12:09] <faLUCE> zorglu_: one last question:
[12:09] <zorglu_> sudo tcpdump -i any tcp port 80 <- this is the proper command, my bad
[12:10] <faLUCE> are dvb api provided in newer kernel's versions?
[12:10] <zorglu_> dvb api ?
[12:10] <zorglu_> what is this
[12:10] <faLUCE> api for digital video cards
[12:10] <zorglu_> euhh
[12:11] <zorglu_> sorry i dunno what is this beast :)
[12:11] <zorglu_> i guess this isnt what the 'word by word' mean to me :)
[12:11] <zorglu_> because most video card i know are digital and that for years :)
[12:11] <mike> I'm a linux newbie.  Where do I go learn about Kubuntu?
[12:11] <zorglu_> analog one being the one to capture from analog device :)
[12:12] <zorglu_> mike: the question is a bit too vague to be answered
[12:12] <faLUCE> zorglu_: ok, about what you said before: the kernel is a supervisos of socket connections of the browser?
[12:12] <faLUCE> zorglu_: ok, about what you said before: the kernel is a supervisor of socket connections of the browser?
[12:12] <zorglu_> mike: http://help.ubuntu.com may be a good place to start
[12:12] <megamaced> Does any know how to stop Kate from automatically making backups when saving a file?
[12:12] <zorglu_> faLUCE: well one can say that like that :)
[12:12] <mike> okay.
[12:13] <zorglu_> faLUCE: but it clearly seems a weird way to say it :)
[12:13] <faLUCE> :)
[12:13] <zorglu_> megamaced: there is an option for that, autosave something
[12:14] <intelikey> foomatic-db is still busted in dapper.
[12:14] <megamaced> nevermind, found it in options