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Bottazzojrib, vc entende o que eu quero fazer?02:34
jribsim02:34
jribvc tem mplayer ja?02:35
Bottazzojrib, quero deixar um video rodando de papel de parede.. que nem no windows vista02:35
Bottazzodexa eu ve02:35
Bottazzoisntalei o ubuntu edgy a 10 minutos02:35
Bottazzoeu to com o totem movie player02:35
jribah, entao nao deve ter02:35
jribtem que usar o "multiverse", sabe fazer?02:36
Bottazzosei sim02:36
Bottazzoja vou isntaalr02:36
jribk02:37
Bottazzoremovo o totem primeiro ?02:37
Bottazzomelhor neh02:37
Bottazzo?02:37
jribnao e preciso02:37
Bottazzook02:37
Bottazzosudo apt-get install mplayer?02:37
jribsim02:37
Bottazzook 1 min02:37
jribpara ter o wallpaper como video, nao pode ver os icons02:38
jribe a unica maneira que eu sei02:38
Bottazzoquais icons ? do desktop ?02:38
jribsim02:39
Bottazzojrib, pow cara, n ta instalando.. ja liberei todos repositorios..ja dei update02:40
Bottazzoe diz que n tem candidate02:40
Bottazzotentei mplayer ..tentei mplayer-38602:40
jribBottazzo: pastebin o /etc/apt/sources.list02:40
Bottazzook02:41
Bottazzodemoro mas foi http://pastebin.com/87325302:44
Bottazzojaba,02:44
Bottazzojrib,02:44
Bottazzomalz jaba02:44
jribpastebin.com e muito lento, para a proxima o http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org ou pastebin.ca sao melhor02:45
Bottazzook (y)02:45
Bottazzooia eu viajanu02:45
Bottazzo(y) coisa de msn02:45
jribok, entra este comando:  gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list02:45
jribnas linhas 17,18,32, e 33, mete " multiverse" no fim02:46
Bottazzoque merda paro de funcionar isso aqui.. gedit arquivo n ta abrindo o gedit =/02:49
jribpodes usar nano:   sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list02:52
Bottazzojrib,  nao cara.. 1 seg.. n pode ser volto ja02:54
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bottazzojrib, porra to zicado manow02:57
bottazzoparou de funcionar o gedit ...02:57
bottazzoki raiva.. reiniciei xserver e nada02:57
bottazzoki raiva vehio02:57
jribo comando 'gedit' sozinho faz alguma coisa?02:59
bottazzota abrindo o gedit normal03:00
bottazzoquando mando abrir o arquivo source.list ele n abre03:00
jribe 'gksudo gedit'03:00
bottazzoGnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:03:01
bottazzoAuthentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.03:01
bottazzojrib,  estranho neh..03:04
bottazzovou reiniciar a mauqina ja volto03:05
bottazzo=P03:05
jribisso e normal03:05
bottazzoe pq n consigo abrir o gedit?03:05
bottazzoreinicinado a maquina sera que arruma? =P03:05
bottazzocoisa de windows =/03:05
jribnao sei03:05
bottazzovou tentar03:05
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bottazzojrib, voltou a funcionar03:08
bottazzocoloca muliverse03:08
bottazzono final ?03:08
bottazzomultiverse03:08
bottazzo?03:08
jribnas linhas 17,18,32, e 33, mete " multiverse" no fim03:08
bottazzojrib, instalando =] 03:09
bottazzojrib,  posso manter o multiverse nas linhas do source? ou eh legal tirar depois de instalar o mplayer ?03:09
jribbottazzo: podes deixar, nao faz mal.  Os programas no multiverse nao sao "free" (nao gpl, etc...)03:10
bottazzoahta, entendi..blz deixarei03:10
bottazzopronto jrib03:11
jribok, agora temos que dizer ao nautilus para nao tomar conta do desktop03:11
jrib'gconf-editor'03:11
bottazzoq q vc quiz dizer com gconf-editor ? =P03:12
jribgconf-editor  e um comando :)03:12
bottazzoopa..malz =P03:12
bottazzook03:12
bottazzoabriu03:12
jribdepois, no gconf-editor vai ao /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop e ?desliga?  (qual e a palavra certa aqui?)03:13
bottazzoshow desktop .. tem um check box..estava checkado, eu desckeckei03:14
LjLdescheckar, now that's nice :P03:14
bottazzo=P03:15
jribok, agora podes fechar gconf-editor03:15
bottazzook03:15
jribmplayer -fixed-vo -fs -loop 0 -rootwin /path/to/video03:16
bottazzolegal..soh preciso de um video pra teste iuahiuha03:16
bottazzoo ubuntu vem com suporte ao que ?03:16
bottazzompg ?03:16
bottazzoavi ?03:16
bottazzopreciso isntalar algum codec?03:16
jribesprementa com "/usr/share/example-content/Experience ubuntu.ogg"03:17
jribpara codecs:03:17
jrib!codecs03:17
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:17
jrib!w32codecs03:17
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs03:17
bottazzolegal vou tentar como seu exemplo03:18
bottazzota tocando ta com som, mas n ta apecendo imagem03:20
bottazzonenhguma03:20
bottazzomplayer -fixed-vo -fs -loop 0 -rootwin /usr/share/example-content/Experience\ ubuntu.ogg03:20
bottazzoessa foi a linha03:20
bottazzoOpening video decoder: [ffmpeg]  FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family03:21
bottazzojrib, sera que eh pq n tenho o codec? mas eh ogg ja deveria vir com neh03:23
jribhmm03:23
jribmplayer /usr/share/example-content/Experience\  ubuntu.og03:23
jribmplayer /usr/share/example-content/Experience\  ubuntu.ogg  funciona?03:23
bottazzovou ver calm a ai03:23
bottazzorodou jrib  =[03:24
jribrodou?03:24
bottazzoo que pode ser entao? =[03:24
bottazzosim rodou03:24
jribnao entendo03:24
bottazzopra q vc pos -vo ?03:25
bottazzo-vo precisaria ter um drive dps03:26
bottazzoq n tem nada setado03:26
jrib-fixed-vo  e para nao fazer um pause quando acaba o video e comeca outra vez03:26
bottazzoahta malz =P03:26
jribo meu -vo  e xv03:27
bottazzoq ?03:27
jribheh03:27
jrib-vo  e outro switch03:28
jrib"video output"03:28
bottazzopois eh vi errado =P03:28
bottazzoposso colar03:28
bottazzouns erros aqui ?03:28
bottazzovou por o resultado no paste ubuntu ok ?03:28
jribk03:29
bottazzohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3782/03:30
bottazzojrib,03:30
jribbottazzo: estranho que nao pode abrir o ogg... tenta depois de instalar w32codecs03:31
jribentao so "mplayer /usr/share/example-content/Experience\ ubuntu.ogg" tambem nao deu video?03:32
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bottazzojrib..deu video sim03:34
jriboh....03:34
jribbottazzo: ok, "mplayer -rootwin /etc/skel/Examples/Experience\ ubuntu.ogg" e depois viste se apareceu algun video debaixo das janelas?03:35
bottazzoentao.. a porra toca o som e tudo..mas a imagem n aparece03:36
bottazzominimizei  e maximiei03:36
bottazzoas ajanelas03:36
bottazzotroquei de workspace03:37
bottazzoe nada03:37
bottazzode imagem03:37
jribbottazzo: "killall nautilus"03:37
bottazzoeu mato ele, e ele volta03:38
bottazzoOo03:38
jribgconftool-2 -g /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop03:38
bottazzotrue !03:38
jribah03:38
bottazzoeu juro que destikei!03:38
bottazzo=P03:38
LjLwith three different words, even03:42
bottazzoputz.. agora eu removi .. matei tudo ..mandei rodar e continua nao aparecendo o video =/03:42
bottazzoprecisa reiniciar o x server03:42
bottazzo?03:42
bottazzoque que se acha jrib03:42
jribgconftool-2 -g /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop   agora diz false?03:42
bottazzosim diz false.. e agora eu n consigo mais selecionar nada no desktop03:43
bottazzonem botao direito nem anda03:43
bottazzota realemtne desligado03:43
jribk03:43
jribmplayer -rootwin /usr/share/example-content/Experience\  ubuntu.ogg     no pastebin?03:44
bottazzojaja ja sei o que era03:44
jribah o que?03:44
bottazzomesmo tirando o nautilus.. o papel de parede esatava por cima03:45
bottazzodai coloquei como nenhum e deu certo03:45
bottazzoheheh mas tenho uma pessima noticia iuoahuiaha.. n fica legal..03:45
bottazzoquando vc abre uma janela e minimiza, o fica a sombra da janela no video..03:45
bottazzon volta a renderizar perfeitamenteo video =P03:45
bottazzomoh trabalho hehehe03:45
bottazzo=P03:45
bottazzohehe de qualquer forma vlw pela ajuda jrib  :)03:47
jribhmm aqui nao deixa a sombra03:48
bottazzoaqui fica bem ruin..03:48
bottazzoeu tenho uma ati03:48
bottazzomas eu n configurei ela03:48
bottazzopode ser isso03:48
bottazzoeu n sei configura-la03:48
jribah deve ser03:48
jrib!ati03:48
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:48
bottazzoa ultima vez que tentei, perdi o x server tive que reinslar o linux03:48
jriboh03:48
bottazzo=P03:48
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naliothjrib: i didn't know you had it in you04:42
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mnoirok08:52
mnoira little quiter08:52
Icemanaye08:52
mnoiri wanted to tell you a couple of things that will make your life easier08:52
Icemanalright08:52
mnoiras you can see - folks can jump to conclusions too quickly08:53
Icemanit happens08:53
mnoirthat is why i start with what is really happening.08:53
mnoirusing gedit, gksudo, g just about anything will not work in recovery08:53
Icemanaaaaah08:54
Icemanthat explains a lot08:54
mnoirat the commandline, your choices are nano, vi, and others08:54
Icemanoooooooh08:54
mnoirand you use sudo to get root privs08:54
Icemanim in a true terminal, so g never actualy loaded, did it?08:54
mnoircorrect08:54
Icemanok08:55
mnoirif you cannot see pretty pix, you ain't in x08:55
Icemanif i tried to start x, it would be a solid black screen08:55
Icemanso how must i get this working in terminal?08:55
mnoirthe reason to match graphical sudo to graphical programs is that the environment will be set up correctly08:55
mnoirok - i dunno about your real problem08:56
Icemanok08:56
mnoirbut if you are editing things according to a howto, use nano or vi until you have x working08:56
mnoirit should instruct you that way :)08:56
mnoiryou want to try one?08:56
Icemanso what would nano replace?08:56
mnoirnano is an editor08:57
mnoirso 'nano <filename> if you do not need privs08:57
Icemanmuch like gedit is an editor, correct?08:57
mnoircorrect08:57
Icemank....let me try it08:57
mnoirbut nano is cli and gedit is visual08:57
mnoirin recovery you probably do not need sudo08:57
mnoiras recovery is a special privileged mode08:58
Icemanalright, it finally brought me to the file i need to edit08:58
mnoirok - so now you can persue your fix :)08:58
Icemanif its special privilage, why is there no password block, since ur basically root inside it?08:58
mnoiryes08:58
mnoirtechnically, you are in what is called single user mode08:58
mnoirwhich is a special mode that cannot be used for normal running08:59
mnoirno security08:59
mnoirno x08:59
Icemanits like the white loading room in the matrix, where ne thing can be done, correct?08:59
mnoiri guess08:59
mnoirbut you need to be careful not to screw stuff up08:59
mnoirit is very easy to do so09:00
mnoirif you are not careful09:00
Icemanso ive heard09:00
mnoirbe sure to understand what folks tell you to do09:00
mnoirdon't edit files until you have made a backup of them09:00
mnoirdon't do stuff that folks say unless you understand the possible consequences09:01
mnoireven me09:01
Icemanwell ive backed up my xorg.conf file before i started this, was there ne thing else i should have backed up?09:01
mnoirif that is what yoe are editing, you're fine09:01
mnoireditors cannot affect more than 1 file at a time unless you are being real fancy09:02
Icemani dont understand all this, so fancy is a no go09:02
mnoirstay away from editing files where there is a * in the name you specify and you will be very safe09:02
mnoir* is a wildcard09:02
mnoirso editrrr a* would mean editrrr ab acccc ad etc etc etc09:03
mnoireditrrr is a fake name09:03
mnoirso i am not giving you and actual dangerous command09:03
mnoirand=an09:03
Icemanyeah, i at least understand the * command09:04
mnoirgood09:04
Icemanseems to be universal in ne computer related commands/names09:04
mnoiryes - * is almost always the general wildcard09:04
Icemanbeen working on windows computers for so long, this linux stuff is really starting to cook my biscuits, but i love a challenge09:05
mnoirso now you have a little of the basics and maybe you can get more help on your problem from the circus09:05
mnoirlinux is a little more heavyweight. more capabilities09:05
mnoirbut a little more like a motorcycle - the technology shows :)09:06
Icemanyeah09:06
Icemanty very much for ur help09:06
mnoirnp :)09:06
Icemanone more question09:06
mnoirk09:06
Icemanhow do i save a file i just edited/created09:06
mnoirin nano it should tell you at the bottom09:07
mnoirsec09:07
mnoirif you do ctl-x it will ask you to save09:07
mnoirbtw i did nano aaaa to look myself :)09:07
Icemanhehe09:08
Icemanw00t, my first 9 lines of code ever written09:08
mnoiri dislike nano - i have been using vi for many years09:08
mnoirbut this is a matter of opinion :)09:08
mnoirso - back to the playpen?09:08
mnoir:)09:08
Icemanill use what ever i can get09:09
mnoirexpert now ....09:09
mnoirproblem with unix - you can get anything09:09
Icemanaye aye09:09
mnoirl8r09:09
Icemanty09:09
mnoir:)09:09
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jojoman02hello09:19
mnoirhi09:19
jojoman02how, i can learn stuff here?09:19
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mnoirsometimes they do classes09:19
mnoiri use it when i need quiet09:19
mnoirand want othere to be able to watch us09:19
mnoirothers i mean09:20
jojoman02kk09:20
mnoirare the lines always the same?09:20
jojoman02yeah09:20
mnoirbut you do not want to just store tham and cp them into place each time?09:20
jojoman02yes09:21
jojoman02the scirpt is only an installer script09:21
jojoman02so it will be only run once per system09:21
jojoman02i don't feel like having another blblbl.txt file, i would prefer it be just one file, u know09:21
mnoiroh - I see09:21
mnoirok - you need to learn the form that kitche was explaining09:21
mnoirit is called 'herefile' form09:22
jojoman02allright09:22
jojoman02ok09:22
mnoirand relies on telling the cat statement what delimiter to use to end reading some inline text09:22
mnoiri am a little rusty - lets race - i am going to google 'herefile ' and be back in a minnit09:23
jojoman02kk09:24
mnoirthere are zillions of links - i am looking for a good one :)09:25
jojoman02mnoir, where do i install progs in linux like the programs files folder?09:25
jojoman02 /opt ?09:25
mnoirthere is a standard place09:25
mnoirlook at http://www.pathname.com/fhs/09:25
jojoman02mnoir, thanks09:26
jojoman02mnoir, man i tried programming, learned some python, made a fairly ok nice gui emcoder for mencoder09:26
jojoman02mnoir, i gave up cuz the resources that are available for gtk are not great, and python gtk at the time didn't have features i needed (tray management)09:27
mnoirhttp://moongroup.com/pipermail/shell.scripting/2002-March/007548.html09:27
mnoiris a simple here-doc example09:28
jojoman02mnoir, thankz09:28
mnoirit is here-doc, not herefile09:28
mnoirl8r :)09:28
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