[02:34] <Bottazzo> jrib, vc entende o que eu quero fazer?
[02:34] <jrib> sim
[02:35] <jrib> vc tem mplayer ja?
[02:35] <Bottazzo> jrib, quero deixar um video rodando de papel de parede.. que nem no windows vista
[02:35] <Bottazzo> dexa eu ve
[02:35] <Bottazzo> isntalei o ubuntu edgy a 10 minutos
[02:35] <Bottazzo> eu to com o totem movie player
[02:35] <jrib> ah, entao nao deve ter
[02:36] <jrib> tem que usar o "multiverse", sabe fazer?
[02:36] <Bottazzo> sei sim
[02:36] <Bottazzo> ja vou isntaalr
[02:37] <jrib> k
[02:37] <Bottazzo> removo o totem primeiro ?
[02:37] <Bottazzo> melhor neh
[02:37] <Bottazzo> ?
[02:37] <jrib> nao e preciso
[02:37] <Bottazzo> ok
[02:37] <Bottazzo> sudo apt-get install mplayer?
[02:37] <jrib> sim
[02:37] <Bottazzo> ok 1 min
[02:38] <jrib> para ter o wallpaper como video, nao pode ver os icons
[02:38] <jrib> e a unica maneira que eu sei
[02:38] <Bottazzo> quais icons ? do desktop ?
[02:39] <jrib> sim
[02:40] <Bottazzo> jrib, pow cara, n ta instalando.. ja liberei todos repositorios..ja dei update
[02:40] <Bottazzo> e diz que n tem candidate
[02:40] <Bottazzo> tentei mplayer ..tentei mplayer-386
[02:40] <jrib> Bottazzo: pastebin o /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:41] <Bottazzo> ok
[02:44] <Bottazzo> demoro mas foi http://pastebin.com/873253
[02:44] <Bottazzo> jaba,
[02:44] <Bottazzo> jrib,
[02:44] <Bottazzo> malz jaba
[02:45] <jrib> pastebin.com e muito lento, para a proxima o http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org ou pastebin.ca sao melhor
[02:45] <Bottazzo> ok (y)
[02:45] <Bottazzo> oia eu viajanu
[02:45] <Bottazzo> (y) coisa de msn
[02:45] <jrib> ok, entra este comando:  gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:46] <jrib> nas linhas 17,18,32, e 33, mete " multiverse" no fim
[02:49] <Bottazzo> que merda paro de funcionar isso aqui.. gedit arquivo n ta abrindo o gedit =/
[02:52] <jrib> podes usar nano:   sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:54] <Bottazzo> jrib,  nao cara.. 1 seg.. n pode ser volto ja
[02:57] <bottazzo> jrib, porra to zicado manow
[02:57] <bottazzo> parou de funcionar o gedit ...
[02:57] <bottazzo> ki raiva.. reiniciei xserver e nada
[02:57] <bottazzo> ki raiva vehio
[02:59] <jrib> o comando 'gedit' sozinho faz alguma coisa?
[03:00] <bottazzo> ta abrindo o gedit normal
[03:00] <bottazzo> quando mando abrir o arquivo source.list ele n abre
[03:00] <jrib> e 'gksudo gedit'
[03:01] <bottazzo> GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[03:01] <bottazzo> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[03:04] <bottazzo> jrib,  estranho neh..
[03:05] <bottazzo> vou reiniciar a mauqina ja volto
[03:05] <bottazzo> =P
[03:05] <jrib> isso e normal
[03:05] <bottazzo> e pq n consigo abrir o gedit?
[03:05] <bottazzo> reinicinado a maquina sera que arruma? =P
[03:05] <bottazzo> coisa de windows =/
[03:05] <jrib> nao sei
[03:05] <bottazzo> vou tentar
[03:08] <bottazzo> jrib, voltou a funcionar
[03:08] <bottazzo> coloca muliverse
[03:08] <bottazzo> no final ?
[03:08] <bottazzo> multiverse
[03:08] <bottazzo> ?
[03:08] <jrib> nas linhas 17,18,32, e 33, mete " multiverse" no fim
[03:09] <bottazzo> jrib, instalando =] 
[03:09] <bottazzo> jrib,  posso manter o multiverse nas linhas do source? ou eh legal tirar depois de instalar o mplayer ?
[03:10] <jrib> bottazzo: podes deixar, nao faz mal.  Os programas no multiverse nao sao "free" (nao gpl, etc...)
[03:10] <bottazzo> ahta, entendi..blz deixarei
[03:11] <bottazzo> pronto jrib
[03:11] <jrib> ok, agora temos que dizer ao nautilus para nao tomar conta do desktop
[03:11] <jrib> 'gconf-editor'
[03:12] <bottazzo> q q vc quiz dizer com gconf-editor ? =P
[03:12] <jrib> gconf-editor  e um comando :)
[03:12] <bottazzo> opa..malz =P
[03:12] <bottazzo> ok
[03:12] <bottazzo> abriu
[03:13] <jrib> depois, no gconf-editor vai ao /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop e ?desliga?  (qual e a palavra certa aqui?)
[03:14] <bottazzo> show desktop .. tem um check box..estava checkado, eu desckeckei
[03:14] <LjL> descheckar, now that's nice :P
[03:15] <bottazzo> =P
[03:15] <jrib> ok, agora podes fechar gconf-editor
[03:15] <bottazzo> ok
[03:16] <jrib> mplayer -fixed-vo -fs -loop 0 -rootwin /path/to/video
[03:16] <bottazzo> legal..soh preciso de um video pra teste iuahiuha
[03:16] <bottazzo> o ubuntu vem com suporte ao que ?
[03:16] <bottazzo> mpg ?
[03:16] <bottazzo> avi ?
[03:16] <bottazzo> preciso isntalar algum codec?
[03:17] <jrib> esprementa com "/usr/share/example-content/Experience ubuntu.ogg"
[03:17] <jrib> para codecs:
[03:17] <jrib> !codecs
[03:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:17] <jrib> !w32codecs
[03:17] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[03:18] <bottazzo> legal vou tentar como seu exemplo
[03:20] <bottazzo> ta tocando ta com som, mas n ta apecendo imagem
[03:20] <bottazzo> nenhguma
[03:20] <bottazzo> mplayer -fixed-vo -fs -loop 0 -rootwin /usr/share/example-content/Experience\ ubuntu.ogg
[03:20] <bottazzo> essa foi a linha
[03:21] <bottazzo> Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg]  FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family
[03:23] <bottazzo> jrib, sera que eh pq n tenho o codec? mas eh ogg ja deveria vir com neh
[03:23] <jrib> hmm
[03:23] <jrib> mplayer /usr/share/example-content/Experience\  ubuntu.og
[03:23] <jrib> mplayer /usr/share/example-content/Experience\  ubuntu.ogg  funciona?
[03:23] <bottazzo> vou ver calm a ai
[03:24] <bottazzo> rodou jrib  =[
[03:24] <jrib> rodou?
[03:24] <bottazzo> o que pode ser entao? =[
[03:24] <bottazzo> sim rodou
[03:24] <jrib> nao entendo
[03:25] <bottazzo> pra q vc pos -vo ?
[03:26] <bottazzo> -vo precisaria ter um drive dps
[03:26] <bottazzo> q n tem nada setado
[03:26] <jrib> -fixed-vo  e para nao fazer um pause quando acaba o video e comeca outra vez
[03:26] <bottazzo> ahta malz =P
[03:27] <jrib> o meu -vo  e xv
[03:27] <bottazzo> q ?
[03:27] <jrib> heh
[03:28] <jrib> -vo  e outro switch
[03:28] <jrib> "video output"
[03:28] <bottazzo> pois eh vi errado =P
[03:28] <bottazzo> posso colar
[03:28] <bottazzo> uns erros aqui ?
[03:28] <bottazzo> vou por o resultado no paste ubuntu ok ?
[03:29] <jrib> k
[03:30] <bottazzo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3782/
[03:30] <bottazzo> jrib,
[03:31] <jrib> bottazzo: estranho que nao pode abrir o ogg... tenta depois de instalar w32codecs
[03:32] <jrib> entao so "mplayer /usr/share/example-content/Experience\ ubuntu.ogg" tambem nao deu video?
[03:34] <bottazzo> jrib..deu video sim
[03:34] <jrib> oh....
[03:35] <jrib> bottazzo: ok, "mplayer -rootwin /etc/skel/Examples/Experience\ ubuntu.ogg" e depois viste se apareceu algun video debaixo das janelas?
[03:36] <bottazzo> entao.. a porra toca o som e tudo..mas a imagem n aparece
[03:36] <bottazzo> minimizei  e maximiei
[03:36] <bottazzo> as ajanelas
[03:37] <bottazzo> troquei de workspace
[03:37] <bottazzo> e nada
[03:37] <bottazzo> de imagem
[03:37] <jrib> bottazzo: "killall nautilus"
[03:38] <bottazzo> eu mato ele, e ele volta
[03:38] <bottazzo> Oo
[03:38] <jrib> gconftool-2 -g /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop
[03:38] <bottazzo> true !
[03:38] <jrib> ah
[03:38] <bottazzo> eu juro que destikei!
[03:38] <bottazzo> =P
[03:42] <LjL> with three different words, even
[03:42] <bottazzo> putz.. agora eu removi .. matei tudo ..mandei rodar e continua nao aparecendo o video =/
[03:42] <bottazzo> precisa reiniciar o x server
[03:42] <bottazzo> ?
[03:42] <bottazzo> que que se acha jrib
[03:42] <jrib> gconftool-2 -g /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop   agora diz false?
[03:43] <bottazzo> sim diz false.. e agora eu n consigo mais selecionar nada no desktop
[03:43] <bottazzo> nem botao direito nem anda
[03:43] <bottazzo> ta realemtne desligado
[03:43] <jrib> k
[03:44] <jrib> mplayer -rootwin /usr/share/example-content/Experience\  ubuntu.ogg     no pastebin?
[03:44] <bottazzo> jaja ja sei o que era
[03:44] <jrib> ah o que?
[03:45] <bottazzo> mesmo tirando o nautilus.. o papel de parede esatava por cima
[03:45] <bottazzo> dai coloquei como nenhum e deu certo
[03:45] <bottazzo> heheh mas tenho uma pessima noticia iuoahuiaha.. n fica legal..
[03:45] <bottazzo> quando vc abre uma janela e minimiza, o fica a sombra da janela no video..
[03:45] <bottazzo> n volta a renderizar perfeitamenteo video =P
[03:45] <bottazzo> moh trabalho hehehe
[03:45] <bottazzo> =P
[03:47] <bottazzo> hehe de qualquer forma vlw pela ajuda jrib  :)
[03:48] <jrib> hmm aqui nao deixa a sombra
[03:48] <bottazzo> aqui fica bem ruin..
[03:48] <bottazzo> eu tenho uma ati
[03:48] <bottazzo> mas eu n configurei ela
[03:48] <bottazzo> pode ser isso
[03:48] <bottazzo> eu n sei configura-la
[03:48] <jrib> ah deve ser
[03:48] <jrib> !ati
[03:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:48] <bottazzo> a ultima vez que tentei, perdi o x server tive que reinslar o linux
[03:48] <jrib> oh
[03:48] <bottazzo> =P
[04:42] <nalioth> jrib: i didn't know you had it in you
[08:52] <mnoir> ok
[08:52] <mnoir> a little quiter
[08:52] <Iceman> aye
[08:52] <mnoir> i wanted to tell you a couple of things that will make your life easier
[08:52] <Iceman> alright
[08:53] <mnoir> as you can see - folks can jump to conclusions too quickly
[08:53] <Iceman> it happens
[08:53] <mnoir> that is why i start with what is really happening.
[08:53] <mnoir> using gedit, gksudo, g just about anything will not work in recovery
[08:54] <Iceman> aaaaah
[08:54] <Iceman> that explains a lot
[08:54] <mnoir> at the commandline, your choices are nano, vi, and others
[08:54] <Iceman> oooooooh
[08:54] <mnoir> and you use sudo to get root privs
[08:54] <Iceman> im in a true terminal, so g never actualy loaded, did it?
[08:54] <mnoir> correct
[08:55] <Iceman> ok
[08:55] <mnoir> if you cannot see pretty pix, you ain't in x
[08:55] <Iceman> if i tried to start x, it would be a solid black screen
[08:55] <Iceman> so how must i get this working in terminal?
[08:55] <mnoir> the reason to match graphical sudo to graphical programs is that the environment will be set up correctly
[08:56] <mnoir> ok - i dunno about your real problem
[08:56] <Iceman> ok
[08:56] <mnoir> but if you are editing things according to a howto, use nano or vi until you have x working
[08:56] <mnoir> it should instruct you that way :)
[08:56] <mnoir> you want to try one?
[08:56] <Iceman> so what would nano replace?
[08:57] <mnoir> nano is an editor
[08:57] <mnoir> so 'nano <filename> if you do not need privs
[08:57] <Iceman> much like gedit is an editor, correct?
[08:57] <mnoir> correct
[08:57] <Iceman> k....let me try it
[08:57] <mnoir> but nano is cli and gedit is visual
[08:57] <mnoir> in recovery you probably do not need sudo
[08:58] <mnoir> as recovery is a special privileged mode
[08:58] <Iceman> alright, it finally brought me to the file i need to edit
[08:58] <mnoir> ok - so now you can persue your fix :)
[08:58] <Iceman> if its special privilage, why is there no password block, since ur basically root inside it?
[08:58] <mnoir> yes
[08:58] <mnoir> technically, you are in what is called single user mode
[08:59] <mnoir> which is a special mode that cannot be used for normal running
[08:59] <mnoir> no security
[08:59] <mnoir> no x
[08:59] <Iceman> its like the white loading room in the matrix, where ne thing can be done, correct?
[08:59] <mnoir> i guess
[08:59] <mnoir> but you need to be careful not to screw stuff up
[09:00] <mnoir> it is very easy to do so
[09:00] <mnoir> if you are not careful
[09:00] <Iceman> so ive heard
[09:00] <mnoir> be sure to understand what folks tell you to do
[09:00] <mnoir> don't edit files until you have made a backup of them
[09:01] <mnoir> don't do stuff that folks say unless you understand the possible consequences
[09:01] <mnoir> even me
[09:01] <Iceman> well ive backed up my xorg.conf file before i started this, was there ne thing else i should have backed up?
[09:01] <mnoir> if that is what yoe are editing, you're fine
[09:02] <mnoir> editors cannot affect more than 1 file at a time unless you are being real fancy
[09:02] <Iceman> i dont understand all this, so fancy is a no go
[09:02] <mnoir> stay away from editing files where there is a * in the name you specify and you will be very safe
[09:02] <mnoir> * is a wildcard
[09:03] <mnoir> so editrrr a* would mean editrrr ab acccc ad etc etc etc
[09:03] <mnoir> editrrr is a fake name
[09:03] <mnoir> so i am not giving you and actual dangerous command
[09:03] <mnoir> and=an
[09:04] <Iceman> yeah, i at least understand the * command
[09:04] <mnoir> good
[09:04] <Iceman> seems to be universal in ne computer related commands/names
[09:04] <mnoir> yes - * is almost always the general wildcard
[09:05] <Iceman> been working on windows computers for so long, this linux stuff is really starting to cook my biscuits, but i love a challenge
[09:05] <mnoir> so now you have a little of the basics and maybe you can get more help on your problem from the circus
[09:05] <mnoir> linux is a little more heavyweight. more capabilities
[09:06] <mnoir> but a little more like a motorcycle - the technology shows :)
[09:06] <Iceman> yeah
[09:06] <Iceman> ty very much for ur help
[09:06] <mnoir> np :)
[09:06] <Iceman> one more question
[09:06] <mnoir> k
[09:06] <Iceman> how do i save a file i just edited/created
[09:07] <mnoir> in nano it should tell you at the bottom
[09:07] <mnoir> sec
[09:07] <mnoir> if you do ctl-x it will ask you to save
[09:07] <mnoir> btw i did nano aaaa to look myself :)
[09:08] <Iceman> hehe
[09:08] <Iceman> w00t, my first 9 lines of code ever written
[09:08] <mnoir> i dislike nano - i have been using vi for many years
[09:08] <mnoir> but this is a matter of opinion :)
[09:08] <mnoir> so - back to the playpen?
[09:08] <mnoir> :)
[09:09] <Iceman> ill use what ever i can get
[09:09] <mnoir> expert now ....
[09:09] <mnoir> problem with unix - you can get anything
[09:09] <Iceman> aye aye
[09:09] <mnoir> l8r
[09:09] <Iceman> ty
[09:09] <mnoir> :)
[09:19] <jojoman02> hello
[09:19] <mnoir> hi
[09:19] <jojoman02> how, i can learn stuff here?
[09:19] <mnoir> sometimes they do classes
[09:19] <mnoir> i use it when i need quiet
[09:19] <mnoir> and want othere to be able to watch us
[09:20] <mnoir> others i mean
[09:20] <jojoman02> kk
[09:20] <mnoir> are the lines always the same?
[09:20] <jojoman02> yeah
[09:20] <mnoir> but you do not want to just store tham and cp them into place each time?
[09:21] <jojoman02> yes
[09:21] <jojoman02> the scirpt is only an installer script
[09:21] <jojoman02> so it will be only run once per system
[09:21] <jojoman02> i don't feel like having another blblbl.txt file, i would prefer it be just one file, u know
[09:21] <mnoir> oh - I see
[09:21] <mnoir> ok - you need to learn the form that kitche was explaining
[09:22] <mnoir> it is called 'herefile' form
[09:22] <jojoman02> allright
[09:22] <jojoman02> ok
[09:22] <mnoir> and relies on telling the cat statement what delimiter to use to end reading some inline text
[09:23] <mnoir> i am a little rusty - lets race - i am going to google 'herefile ' and be back in a minnit
[09:24] <jojoman02> kk
[09:25] <mnoir> there are zillions of links - i am looking for a good one :)
[09:25] <jojoman02> mnoir, where do i install progs in linux like the programs files folder?
[09:25] <jojoman02>  /opt ?
[09:25] <mnoir> there is a standard place
[09:25] <mnoir> look at http://www.pathname.com/fhs/
[09:26] <jojoman02> mnoir, thanks
[09:26] <jojoman02> mnoir, man i tried programming, learned some python, made a fairly ok nice gui emcoder for mencoder
[09:27] <jojoman02> mnoir, i gave up cuz the resources that are available for gtk are not great, and python gtk at the time didn't have features i needed (tray management)
[09:27] <mnoir> http://moongroup.com/pipermail/shell.scripting/2002-March/007548.html
[09:28] <mnoir> is a simple here-doc example
[09:28] <jojoman02> mnoir, thankz
[09:28] <mnoir> it is here-doc, not herefile
[09:28] <mnoir> l8r :)