| sistpoty | hi folks | 12:13 |
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| coNP | hi sistpoty | 12:16 |
| sistpoty | hi coNP | 12:16 |
| ScottK | Hi sistpoty. | 12:17 |
| sistpoty | hi ScottK | 12:17 |
| coNP | sistpoty: I tried out what you suggested, concerning bug 82436, however recommends is not enough, because recommended packages are not installed by default (neither by gnome-app-install) | 12:17 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 82436 in wesnoth "wesnoth-all meta-package request (for gnome-app-install)" [Unknown,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82436 | 12:17 |
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| sistpoty | coNP: recommends still aren't installed by default? I though this spec would have been implemented some time ago :/ | 12:18 |
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| coNP | not by apt-get nor gnome-app-installer | 12:20 |
| sistpoty | coNP: however I still think recommends is the saner way than to add a meta-package... | 12:20 |
| coNP | sistpoty: sure, but what to do if I want that packages to be installed | 12:21 |
| sistpoty | coNP: the package manager *should* provide a mechanism for the recommends, so this would then be not a bug of wesnoth | 12:24 |
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| sistpoty | lol, now this is a funny (C) entry: Copyright (C) 2001 Queen of England | 12:26 |
| TheMuso | sistpoty: lol | 12:31 |
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| Toadstool | gar, I hate LP polls system... | 01:09 |
| ajmitch | everyone does | 01:10 |
| ajmitch | I suppose we'd better start voting for the council | 01:10 |
| Toadstool | already done :) | 01:10 |
| === ajmitch hasn't voted yet :) | ||
| Toadstool | hurry up, only 13 days left ! | 01:13 |
| ajmitch | bah | 01:14 |
| === ajmitch wonders who to decline | ||
| === TheMuso goes to vote. | ||
| ajmitch | oh, andrew mitchell | 01:14 |
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| Toadstool | hehe | 01:15 |
| Fujitsu | Hah. | 01:15 |
| TheMuso | hahaha | 01:15 |
| === Fujitsu wonders when the new-upstream-version frenzy will start... I'm surprised it hasn't already. | ||
| === ajmitch shrugs | ||
| ajmitch | people still have a couple of days | 01:16 |
| Fujitsu | Almost a week, in fact. | 01:16 |
| ajmitch | it shouldn't start until about 2 hours before UVF | 01:16 |
| Fujitsu | Hahaha | 01:16 |
| crimsun | or 2 hours after UVF. :-) | 01:17 |
| ajmitch | more likely | 01:17 |
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| TheMuso | heh | 01:17 |
| ajmitch | crimsun: you're ready & willing to stand for the council? | 01:17 |
| crimsun | must be an imposter | 01:17 |
| ajmitch | I feared as much | 01:18 |
| shawarma | Fujitsu: I've got a packaging marathon planned this weekend. :-) | 01:19 |
| Toadstool | what's that? running ~42 kms with a laptop while packaging? | 01:20 |
| ajmitch | Toadstool: it's easier if you use something like one of those new nokia devices | 01:20 |
| Toadstool | that's cheating :) | 01:20 |
| shawarma | Toadstool: Close. We've got a 24 hour free software hacking session at the university. I'm going to spend my time catching up on packaging. | 01:21 |
| Fujitsu | A laptop? That's crazy! You need to carry a desktop! | 01:21 |
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| Toadstool | with a 21" CRT? | 01:21 |
| ajmitch | Fujitsu: ssh | 01:21 |
| Fujitsu | Toadstool, yep. | 01:21 |
| shawarma | http://www.digitalfog.com/gallery/PortableComputer.jpg | 01:21 |
| shawarma | That's a classic. :-) | 01:22 |
| ajmitch | shame it refuses direct links | 01:22 |
| shawarma | ajmitch: Really? http://www.digitalfog.com/gallery/portablecomputer.htm | 01:22 |
| shawarma | Better? | 01:22 |
| Fujitsu | Gah! | 01:22 |
| Fujitsu | What a great beryl version number: | 01:23 |
| Fujitsu | 0.1.9999.1~0beryl1 | 01:23 |
| Fujitsu | (That's 0.2.0rc1) | 01:23 |
| shawarma | Yeah, i don't get that either. They're actually using ~'s, so why not 0.2~rc1? | 01:23 |
| Fujitsu | Exactly what I thought. | 01:24 |
| Fujitsu | If they didn't know about ~, it might be reasonable. | 01:24 |
| crimsun | I scolded Trevino, but he didn't understand 0.2~rc1-0ubuntu1, apparently. | 01:25 |
| shawarma | Kids.. | 01:25 |
| shawarma | :-) | 01:25 |
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| ajmitch | heh | 01:26 |
| === ajmitch wonders if dpkg-deb should have some mandatory skill questions to unlock it | ||
| Fujitsu | Hah. | 01:27 |
| shawarma | crimsun: Thanks for your help with the aoss stuff, by the way. I got it working. | 01:28 |
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| ajmitch | Hobbsee!! | 01:30 |
| shawarma | crimsun: I have now succesfully reencoded one of those nasty DRM-infested WMA things to ogg by way of VirtualBox, WinXP, ALSA/OSS emulation, the alsa file plugin, mplayer and oggenc. Wicked! | 01:31 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch!!! | 01:32 |
| shawarma | I had to install WinXP to do it, but I got rid of the crappy DRM stuff. I can't really figure out the karma in that.. | 01:32 |
| crimsun | shawarma: :-) | 01:33 |
| crimsun | hmm, does it make sense to be able to approve or disapprove $self in those polls? | 01:35 |
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| shawarma | Goodnight, guys! | 01:36 |
| shawarma | and Hobsee. | 01:36 |
| shawarma | :-) | 01:36 |
| crimsun | 'night | 01:36 |
| Hobbsee | hey shawarma. night! | 01:38 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: in which polls? | 01:38 |
| TheMuso | Hobbsee: Read ubuntu-motu@. | 01:39 |
| ajmitch | crimsun: the poll info is arbitrary, not tied to a person | 01:40 |
| Hobbsee | TheMuso: the MOTU council one? | 01:40 |
| ajmitch | they just happen to have names | 01:40 |
| TheMuso | Hobbsee: Yep. | 01:40 |
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| TheMuso | It would be better if it/c | 01:46 |
| === ajmitch doesn't understand why the votes we cast are protected by these top s3kr3t keys | ||
| TheMuso | It would be better if it had more election style polls. | 01:46 |
| ajmitch | sure | 01:46 |
| TheMuso | haha | 01:46 |
| ajmitch | polls on LP suck | 01:46 |
| Fujitsu | ajmitch, so it can't possibly be traced to you. | 01:46 |
| TheMuso | Fujitsu: Point. | 01:46 |
| ajmitch | Fujitsu: that doesn't explain why I need to enter some random string to get access to my votes again | 01:47 |
| ajmitch | classic quote | 01:47 |
| ajmitch | 23:57 < sabdfl> oh for heavens sake! | 01:47 |
| ajmitch | 23:57 < sabdfl> the poll system is driving *me* nuts | 01:47 |
| Fujitsu | ajmitch, yes it does. | 01:47 |
| Fujitsu | Heheh, yeah. | 01:47 |
| Fujitsu | ajmitch, how else can it track the votes? | 01:47 |
| geser | ajmitch: LP seems to only know you voted but not how | 01:48 |
| Fujitsu | geser, of course. That's how it | 01:48 |
| Fujitsu | *it's secret. | 01:48 |
| ajmitch | it can track how we voted, just not show it anywhere | 01:48 |
| Fujitsu | But then the LP people can see it. | 01:48 |
| ajmitch | big deal :) | 01:48 |
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| geser | Fujitsu: if the LP people can see how each motu voted why this secret keys? | 01:51 |
| Fujitsu | geser, the point is, with the secret keys they /can't/ see it. | 01:51 |
| Fujitsu | That's the whole point. | 01:51 |
| Fujitsu | Without them (ie. a public or semi-secret poll) they can. | 01:52 |
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| geser | crimsun: the upload of php4-yaz for dapper-updates you sponsored in sep 2006 got rejected now (bug 58564) | 01:58 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 58564 in php4-yaz "php4-yaz won't install (broken dependency)" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58564 | 01:58 |
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| zul | whats the url again for the voting? | 02:00 |
| geser | zul: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-dev/+polls | 02:02 |
| crimsun | geser: what was the rationale? | 02:05 |
| geser | there was none in that e-mail | 02:05 |
| crimsun | hmm. I presume it's because we didn't go through dapper-proposed. | 02:06 |
| geser | did it exist in sep 2006 already? | 02:07 |
| crimsun | no idea, but let's do it now. | 02:07 |
| crimsun | we likely didn't have motu-sru in sept '06 | 02:08 |
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| geser | I'd open a sru bug for it but I don't have a dapper system (or chroot) to test the package | 02:10 |
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| sistpoty | gn8 everyone | 02:19 |
| crimsun | slomo: HAL issue should be fixed now [http://hg-mirror.alsa-project.org/alsa-kernel?cs=fc216dd0eb92 ] | 02:19 |
| gnomefreak | crimsun: good luck going for motu-council | 02:27 |
| crimsun | thanks | 02:28 |
| zul | there should be like a debate or something....ooh...attack ads | 02:29 |
| ajmitch | sure | 02:29 |
| ajmitch | what do you want people to debate? | 02:29 |
| ajmitch | and I suppose you want election speeches & all | 02:29 |
| zul | damn straight | 02:29 |
| === ajmitch kindly declines the nomination | ||
| zul | wohoo.. | 02:30 |
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| TheMuso | haha | 02:54 |
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| ScottK | This is OT, but an interesting vector for security issues that I wouldn't have thought of .. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6320865.stm - voice commands. | 03:14 |
| DarkMageZ | hmm, that would be fun | 03:19 |
| DarkMageZ | the riaa would just release some fake torrents with commands to delete all mp3s | 03:20 |
| DarkMageZ | the problem tho would be since the voice software has to be trained to that particular persons voice. getting a voice to work against that persons voice profile would be alittle challenging | 03:21 |
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| DarkMageZ | luckily ubuntu doesn't do any voice stuff that i know of :) | 03:25 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 03:26 |
| TheMuso | Heya bddebian. | 03:27 |
| bddebian | Hi TheMuso | 03:28 |
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| ajmitch | hello bddebian | 03:35 |
| bddebian | Heya ajmitch | 03:36 |
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| ScottK | Seems like a quiet night. | 04:52 |
| bddebian | No kidding eh? :-) | 04:52 |
| imbrandon | scarry | 04:58 |
| imbrandon | rm debian/patches/sparc-asm.patch | 04:58 |
| imbrandon | err | 04:58 |
| ScottK | Herd 3 freeze is maybe a little demotivating.... | 04:58 |
| imbrandon | ScottK, its only for main ( and only for a day or two ) | 04:59 |
| imbrandon | no reason to stop universe | 04:59 |
| imbrandon | or main for that matter | 04:59 |
| === imbrandon is working on a main package atm | ||
| imbrandon | just have to wait to upload | 05:00 |
| ScottK | Understand, just trying to figure out why it's so quiet. | 05:00 |
| === ScottK is busy buying my wife a new cel phone at the moment. | ||
| imbrandon | lots of times its quite in here ;) | 05:00 |
| imbrandon | hrm | 05:08 |
| imbrandon | who wants to figure out an archive problem? | 05:08 |
| imbrandon | heh | 05:08 |
| imbrandon | libgpod is in depwait for python-eyed3 but is built | 05:08 |
| === imbrandon is puizzled | ||
| imbrandon | puzzled* | 05:09 |
| ajmitch | hey imbrandon | 05:09 |
| ajmitch | what's up? | 05:09 |
| imbrandon | heya ajmitch | 05:09 |
| crimsun | imbrandon: note eyed3's component. | 05:09 |
| imbrandon | i need the newer libgpod for amarok 1.4.5 that i'm packaging now | 05:10 |
| imbrandon | but its waiting on python-eyed3 | 05:10 |
| imbrandon | for some strange reason | 05:10 |
| imbrandon | crimsun, huhu ? | 05:10 |
| crimsun | i.e., it will depwait until eyed3 completes its publisher run for main promotion. | 05:10 |
| ajmitch | which means until someone pushes it hard into main | 05:10 |
| imbrandon | ouch | 05:11 |
| imbrandon | hum ok | 05:11 |
| ajmitch | the People Who Care have a list of these packages for this reason | 05:11 |
| imbrandon | i wonder if whomever uploaded did a MIR etc | 05:11 |
| TheMuso | Hey imbrandon. | 05:11 |
| ajmitch | but tollef has been a little busy with herd3 | 05:11 |
| imbrandon | heya TheMuso | 05:11 |
| TheMuso | Just a bit. | 05:11 |
| imbrandon | understandable | 05:12 |
| imbrandon | man i come back from my packageing heiatus to full blown amarok only to be stoped in my tracks | 05:12 |
| imbrandon | lol | 05:12 |
| ajmitch | that's ok | 05:12 |
| ajmitch | you can work on other stuff | 05:13 |
| ajmitch | get to it | 05:13 |
| imbrandon | true | 05:13 |
| crimsun | imbrandon: yes, it has been. Again, it's waiting for the promotion. [https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReportEyed3 ] | 05:13 |
| imbrandon | rockin crimsun thanks | 05:13 |
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| === ajmitch will try & file sync requests for most of the remaining rc bug list after test building them | ||
| ajmitch | only got about 30 open sync requests from me at the moment | 05:15 |
| TheMuso | ajmitch: I can do those as well if you want. | 05:15 |
| imbrandon | i just hated when the build said ...... | 05:15 |
| imbrandon | = The following extra functionality will NOT be included: | 05:15 |
| imbrandon | = - MP4/AAC Tag Write Support | 05:15 |
| imbrandon | = - iPod Support (at least libgpod 0.4.2 is required) | 05:15 |
| ajmitch | far more than 30 packages on the list :) | 05:15 |
| imbrandon | that stoped me hehe | 05:15 |
| bddebian | Go ajmitch, go ajmitch | 05:15 |
| ajmitch | TheMuso: hm, maybe | 05:15 |
| imbrandon | mp4 is normal but no ipod is a no no | 05:15 |
| ajmitch | TheMuso: it means checking all the time to see if you've tested/requested sync, and I don't have a comments field yet to mark stuff about a package | 05:16 |
| TheMuso | right | 05:16 |
| ajmitch | I figured a quick way to add one, I might do that tomorrow | 05:16 |
| imbrandon | ajmitch, to the merges list ? | 05:16 |
| imbrandon | or yours? | 05:16 |
| ajmitch | to my list | 05:16 |
| imbrandon | ahh | 05:16 |
| ajmitch | how could I add stuff to the merge list? :) | 05:20 |
| imbrandon | poke scott | 05:20 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 05:20 |
| ajmitch | yeah, very likely | 05:21 |
| crimsun | git checkout -b hda-fixes | 05:22 |
| crimsun | oops | 05:22 |
| bddebian | Anyone have a second to see what I did wrong with my gtk-gnutella on REVU? | 05:28 |
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| zakame | would #29802 be fit for sru? | 07:08 |
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| ScottK | Bug #29802? | 07:36 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 29802 in mysql-admin "MySQL Administrator Locks when trying to do User Administration" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29802 | 07:36 |
| Fujitsu | zakame, I'd like it to happen. | 07:37 |
| Fujitsu | How big is the change? | 07:37 |
| zakame | Fujitsu: I've yet to check | 07:38 |
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| zakame | can wlassistant 0.5.6 still make it? (bug #76775) | 08:30 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 76775 in wlassistant "package request: wlassistant 0.5.6" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76775 | 08:30 |
| StevenK | It isn't UVF yet | 08:32 |
| zakame | I'm also planning to add some run-parts support for /etc/network/if-{,pre-}{up,down}.d/ | 08:32 |
| lucas | ajmitch: TheMuso: I'll mail ubuntu-motu@ later today with a list of FTBFS and piuparts failures | 08:48 |
| lucas | I generated those during the night | 08:48 |
| zakame | lucas: cool work :) | 08:49 |
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| === Fujitsu applauds lucas. Very nice :) | ||
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| Fujitsu | lucas: Where do you get the computing power to do it!? | 08:54 |
| zakame | allee: still packaging wlassistant 0.5.6? | 08:54 |
| zakame | left brain, or right? | 08:55 |
| lucas | Fujitsu: at $DAY_JOB ;) | 08:55 |
| allee | zakame: not today. I did not came very far, distracted by digikam errors | 08:55 |
| Fujitsu | A whole lot of PCs, or one really big one? | 08:55 |
| lucas | I'm a phd student in lab that participates in a project called grid'5000 | 08:56 |
| Fujitsu | Aha, | 08:56 |
| zakame | allee: I'm gonna try my hand at it, and add some run-parts integration too | 08:56 |
| lucas | the plan is to build an experimental computer grid, so there's ~2000 bi-opteron nodes available | 08:56 |
| allee | zakame: great. Go on | 08:56 |
| zakame | I'd like to see it run /etc/network/ scripts | 08:56 |
| zakame | thanks | 08:56 |
| Fujitsu | Hm, I've got 200x AMD64 2800+ (and above) at my disposal. | 08:56 |
| === Fujitsu plots. | ||
| zakame | zomg | 08:57 |
| lucas | heh, where from ? | 08:57 |
| allee | zakame: can you reassign in launchpad? | 08:57 |
| Fujitsu | School. | 08:57 |
| zakame | allee: sure | 08:58 |
| allee | zakame: I'll merge back to debian. So next time it's easier to merge (or no merge at all) | 08:58 |
| zakame | debian's still at 0.5.5-1, I think a ping on them is needed :) | 08:59 |
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| allee | zakame: wlassistant is in the debian's alioth svn there I can commit ;) | 09:00 |
| zakame | cool | 09:01 |
| zakame | no need for reportbug then :) | 09:01 |
| allee | zakame: yeap, just ping me | 09:02 |
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| zakame | thanks :) | 09:05 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 09:29 |
| imbrandon | moins dholbach | 09:29 |
| dholbach | hey imbrandon | 09:29 |
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| \sh | moins | 10:30 |
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| imbrandon | heya \sh | 11:39 |
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| ajmitch | lucas: thanks for the rebuild & piuparts run | 11:53 |
| ajmitch | how long does it take to run it all? | 11:53 |
| TheMuso | what is piuports? | 11:54 |
| ajmitch | tests installability/cleanliness of a package | 11:54 |
| ajmitch | installs in a chroot, sees what's left over afterwards | 11:55 |
| ajmitch | plus upgrading, etc | 11:55 |
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| TheMuso | ah | 11:56 |
| === ajmitch spots a few errors there that'll be handled by syncs | ||
| ajmitch | lucas: it'd be great if you could rerun this in a week or two | 11:59 |
| === TheMuso found one that looks completely incorrect according to lp. | ||
| TheMuso | ah but thats from edgy | 12:03 |
| === TheMuso examines speech-dispatcher. | ||
| imbrandon | ugh | 12:07 |
| ajmitch | whoever's handling syncs this week will hate me | 12:07 |
| === TheMuso guesses there will be a lot of python stuff in there | ||
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| Adri2000 | hi | 12:15 |
| lionel | hi Adri2000 | 12:16 |
| TheMuso | Hey Adri2000. | 12:16 |
| imbrandon | lol ajmitch , gonna give them a workout? | 12:16 |
| ajmitch | imbrandon: certainly | 12:17 |
| \sh | hmm..I'm trying to build some of lukas list | 12:21 |
| \sh | on amd64 to make it more difficult ,-) | 12:22 |
| \sh | the problem is for me, to determine from lucas' mail, which arch he used... | 12:23 |
| TheMuso | \sh: The build log has nothing? | 12:23 |
| \sh | TheMuso: which build log? LPs build log e.g. for aqsis says: it's build on all archs | 12:24 |
| \sh | so I wonder | 12:24 |
| TheMuso | There are build logs of all the FTBFS packages. | 12:24 |
| ajmitch | it looks like he used x86 | 12:24 |
| TheMuso | If you follow the link that Lucus gave, there is an ubuntu-rebuild directory. | 12:24 |
| \sh | well, I don't trust those list... | 12:25 |
| \sh | btw: aqsis | 12:25 |
| \sh | DC-Build-Header: aqsis 1.1.0.20050815-4ubuntu1 / Thu Feb 01 22:10:37 +0100 2007 | 12:25 |
| \sh | E: /etc/schroot/schroot.conf: line 1: Invalid line: " | 12:25 |
| \sh | Can't close schroot pipe at /usr/share/perl5/Sbuild/Chroot.pm line 125. | 12:25 |
| \sh | DC-Build-Status: Failed 0.819075s | 12:25 |
| ajmitch | if you don't trust them, don't use them | 12:25 |
| \sh | DC-Time-Estimation: 0.819075 versus expected 32000 (r/m: 39067.461374111 ; m: 0.819075) | 12:25 |
| \sh | wonderful if you have broken buildds | 12:25 |
| ajmitch | heh, see apport's build log | 12:25 |
| ajmitch | there are a few with broken chroots | 12:26 |
| \sh | yes, that's why you can throw the result away...and lets trust lp when we rebuild our full archive | 12:26 |
| ajmitch | in about 6 weeks time | 12:26 |
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| \sh | or use parallel pbuilder with distcc ,-> | 12:27 |
| ajmitch | or more | 12:27 |
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| \sh | shermann@LT420:~/test$ cat test.txt |awk '{print $6}'|grep -e "^1k"|wc -l | 12:31 |
| \sh | 198 | 12:31 |
| ajmitch | not bad | 12:31 |
| \sh | 198 packages you can throw away because of broken buildd | 12:31 |
| \sh | shermann@LT420:~/test$ cat test.txt |awk '{print $6}'|grep -ve "^1k"|wc -l | 12:31 |
| \sh | 473 | 12:31 |
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| \sh | 473 packages with something else | 12:32 |
| ajmitch | so nearly 1/3 failure just because of buildds | 12:32 |
| \sh | jepp | 12:32 |
| === TheMuso doesn't quite understand. | ||
| \sh | http://people.debian.org/~lucas/logs/2007/02/01/ubuntu-rebuild/ | 12:33 |
| ajmitch | TheMuso: 198 package builds failed due to broken sbuild/schroot config | 12:33 |
| \sh | all logs with "1k" size are there, because of a broken sbuild config | 12:33 |
| imbrandon | ls -l | 12:33 |
| imbrandon | grr | 12:33 |
| ajmitch | imbrandon: better than your password | 12:33 |
| imbrandon | true | 12:33 |
| TheMuso | ajmitch: Ah. | 12:33 |
| Adri2000 | ajmitch: I have already requested a sync for openser | 12:35 |
| ajmitch | oh well | 12:35 |
| ajmitch | Adri2000: are you merging blam or not? | 12:35 |
| Adri2000 | already uploaded | 12:35 |
| ajmitch | ok | 12:35 |
| \sh | then we have some shit with apt-get | 12:35 |
| === TheMuso found a package that needs a build-dep changed. | ||
| TheMuso | Just checking if it can be synced. | 12:36 |
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| Kano | hi, 915resolution should be updated | 01:03 |
| Kano | because i need it installable without intel chipset | 01:04 |
| ajmitch | file a bug then | 01:04 |
| Kano | ATI chipset detected. 915resolution only works with Intel 800/900 series graphic chipsets. | 01:04 |
| Kano | invoke-rc.d: initscript 915resolution, action "start" failed. | 01:04 |
| Kano | apt-get install -f | 01:04 |
| Kano | even fails in circles... | 01:05 |
| Fujitsu | I'm sure that's been in Feisty for some months. | 01:05 |
| Kano | i use debian usually | 01:06 |
| Kano | and there are not so many live cd creators out there it seems | 01:06 |
| Fujitsu | Indeed, the last email notification for 915resolution I have is 0.5.2-9 in Debian and 0.5.2-9ubuntu1 in Ubuntu. The issue you mentioned was fixed a couple of versions ago, I'm sure. | 01:07 |
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| Kano | invoke-rc.d 915resolution XXX || exit $? | 01:13 |
| Kano | that is serious problem | 01:13 |
| Fujitsu | ? | 01:14 |
| Kano | well try to install that package on a system without intel gfx | 01:14 |
| Nafallo | why would I even attempt to do that? :-) | 01:15 |
| Kano | to have it presinstalled | 01:15 |
| Nafallo | ah | 01:16 |
| Kano | because i enable it on the fly when needed | 01:16 |
| Nafallo | why? :-) | 01:16 |
| Nafallo | there is a new xorg-driver which has modesetting in it... | 01:16 |
| Kano | i check for i810 driver | 01:16 |
| Kano | and is that default? | 01:16 |
| Nafallo | dunno | 01:16 |
| Fujitsu | No. | 01:16 |
| Nafallo | I don't use it :-P | 01:16 |
| Kano | xserver-xorg-video-i810-modesetting | 01:16 |
| Kano | you mean that one | 01:17 |
| Fujitsu | That's the one. | 01:17 |
| Nafallo | yepp | 01:17 |
| Kano | would be an idea | 01:18 |
| Nafallo | seriously... that's the future | 01:18 |
| Fujitsu | Kano: What version of 915resolution are you using? | 01:18 |
| Kano | Fujitsu: maybe i just used a trick to install it before | 01:18 |
| Kano | not sure right now | 01:18 |
| Fujitsu | 915resolution (0.5.2-6) unstable; urgency=low | 01:18 |
| Fujitsu | * Make sure that the init script exits gracefully in case the chipset | 01:18 |
| Fujitsu | is not supported (Closes: #398077) Thanks to David Fox | 01:18 |
| Kano | 0.5.2-9ubuntu1 and the debian one | 01:19 |
| Fujitsu | Might it be advisable to stick the FTBFS list into a wiki page, with a comments/status field? | 01:23 |
| === ajmitch hates wiki pages | ||
| ajmitch | and as \sh found out, about 1/3 of the failed build logs are useless | 01:24 |
| Fujitsu | Have we got anything better, though? | 01:24 |
| ajmitch | not yet, going to whip something up this weekend | 01:24 |
| Fujitsu | Ah, that will be good | 01:24 |
| ajmitch | since I need to add comments to that rc bugs page | 01:24 |
| TheMuso | I like mdz's suggestion. | 01:24 |
| Fujitsu | It is surely not too hard to test-build a couple of hundred package.s | 01:25 |
| ajmitch | Fujitsu: no it's not, I've done it overnight before | 01:25 |
| Fujitsu | So we just need to rebuild the failures, so we can get the proper list. | 01:25 |
| Kano | it gives exit code 2 | 01:26 |
| Kano | on error | 01:26 |
| Fujitsu | Hm, white's not around (he's the Debian maintainer, and is often here) | 01:26 |
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| Kano | Fujitsu: the problem is, when you use dash you get error code 2 | 01:29 |
| Kano | and when you use bash you get error code 0 | 01:29 |
| Fujitsu | You sure? | 01:29 |
| Kano | 100% | 01:29 |
| Fujitsu | That's rather strange. | 01:29 |
| Fujitsu | What's the code that gives the error? | 01:29 |
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| Kano | it quits before with dash | 01:30 |
| Kano | + /usr/sbin/915resolution -l | 01:30 |
| Kano | ATI chipset detected. 915resolution only works with Intel 800/900 series graphic chipsets. | 01:30 |
| Kano | + bios_list=Intel 800/900 Series VBIOS Hack : version 0.5.2 | 01:30 |
| Kano | thats last with dash | 01:30 |
| Fujitsu | OK. | 01:31 |
| Kano | + /usr/sbin/915resolution -l | 01:31 |
| Kano | + wrong_chipset | 01:31 |
| Kano | thats going on with bash | 01:31 |
| Fujitsu | Please report a bug against the Debian package. | 01:31 |
| Fujitsu | I | 01:31 |
| Fujitsu | *I'm sure white will fix it soon. | 01:31 |
| Kano | that problem is specific to dash as sh, so best fixed under ubuntu | 01:31 |
| Fujitsu | No. | 01:31 |
| Fujitsu | Best fixed in Debian, to minimise deviance. | 01:31 |
| geser | I hope to get xmms2 resolved soon: it builds in a pbuilder, it builds in lucas' rebuild but not on the buildds :( | 01:31 |
| Fujitsu | It's still a bug in the script, not in Ubuntu. | 01:31 |
| Kano | &>/dev/null | 01:32 |
| Kano | first thats not allowed for dash | 01:32 |
| Kano | and thats the error | 01:32 |
| Kano | >/dev/null 2>&1 | 01:33 |
| Kano | thats the correct way for dash | 01:33 |
| Kano | (and of course bash too) | 01:33 |
| Kano | with that fix it installs correctly | 01:34 |
| Kano | please change | 01:35 |
| Fujitsu | No, it's best to fix it in Debian. | 01:35 |
| Kano | ok, then main the debian maintainer... | 01:35 |
| Fujitsu | If he refuses, or doesn't respond, then I would do it. | 01:35 |
| Fujitsu | But we try to minimise deviance from Debian. | 01:35 |
| Kano | a 1 line change... | 01:36 |
| Fujitsu | Even so, Debian might like the bug fix. | 01:36 |
| Fujitsu | And might not like us if we don't forward the change. | 01:36 |
| Kano | ok, will mail him | 01:36 |
| Fujitsu | Thankyou. | 01:36 |
| Fujitsu | Better still, file a bug. | 01:36 |
| Fujitsu | And thanks for picking this up, I don't think people regularly install it on non-Intel systems. | 01:36 |
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| Kano | i am used for find bashisms already ;) | 01:40 |
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| imbrandon | woot pbuilders done | 01:40 |
| imbrandon | x86 buildd is "useable" now | 01:40 |
| imbrandon | for anyone that cares | 01:41 |
| TheMuso | imbrandon: Nice. | 01:41 |
| imbrandon | hehe yea TheMuso now you can try it out since your a ubuntu-dev ;) | 01:41 |
| TheMuso | imbrandon: Yup. | 01:41 |
| TheMuso | So it our lp username? | 01:41 |
| TheMuso | ie for me its TheMuso? | 01:41 |
| imbrandon | yea lp username , uses the sshkey from LP | 01:42 |
| TheMuso | Right. | 01:42 |
| imbrandon | and the ip is build.imbrandon.com | 01:42 |
| ajmitch | imbrandon: good | 01:42 |
| ajmitch | imbrandon: now I want to do something extra special there :) | 01:42 |
| TheMuso | I get a prompt | 01:42 |
| imbrandon | ajmitch, rocking, go for it ajmitch | 01:43 |
| imbrandon | breezy dapper edgy feisty and sid are setup | 01:43 |
| imbrandon | TheMuso, one sec | 01:43 |
| imbrandon | lemme make sure your user is correct | 01:43 |
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| imbrandon | all lowercase | 01:44 |
| imbrandon | drwxr-xr-x 3 themuso ubuntu-dev 160 2007-01-30 20:19 themuso | 01:44 |
| TheMuso | imbrandon: I'm in | 01:44 |
| TheMuso | but I was expecting that menu thingy. | 01:44 |
| imbrandon | you should have access to pbuilder-$dist | 01:44 |
| imbrandon | yea the menu isnt done yet | 01:44 |
| imbrandon | brb | 01:44 |
| ajmitch | imbrandon: the menu will be optional, I hope? | 01:45 |
| imbrandon | i siad useable not "finished" hehehe | 01:45 |
| imbrandon | ajmitch, definately | 01:45 |
| ajmitch | good | 01:45 |
| ajmitch | I won't want to use it :) | 01:45 |
| imbrandon | me either | 01:45 |
| ajmitch | I want to be able to submit build jobs to your systems & get build logs emailed to me | 01:45 |
| imbrandon | but i still wanna add it for those that do | 01:45 |
| ajmitch | I already have some tools for it here | 01:45 |
| imbrandon | ajmitch, rockin | 01:45 |
| Nafallo | hmm | 01:46 |
| TheMuso | imbrandon: SO for those who'd rather the prompt, how will we access the systems we want? | 01:46 |
| ajmitch | yeah, if I can specify which arch to build on it'll be great :) | 01:46 |
| imbrandon | you can , one sec, i'm on a call for work cant concentrate on both | 01:46 |
| imbrandon | lol | 01:46 |
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| TheMuso | np | 01:47 |
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| === Fujitsu heads off to bed. | ||
| === ajmitch should probably sleep too | ||
| Fujitsu | ajmitch, you certainly should! | 01:51 |
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| imbrandon | heh | 01:52 |
| Nafallo | ah | 01:52 |
| Nafallo | local mirror? :-) | 01:52 |
| imbrandon | Nafallo, yea | 01:52 |
| === TheMuso should head to bed also. | ||
| Fujitsu | imbrandon: What other archs are planned? | 01:53 |
| imbrandon | ppc and x86_64 | 01:53 |
| imbrandon | and past that it will have to be donated hardware | 01:54 |
| imbrandon | as for arm etc if its wanted | 01:54 |
| TheMuso | Night folks. | 01:54 |
| imbrandon | gnight TheMuso | 01:54 |
| imbrandon | i'll work on some psudo "docs" for it today sometime | 01:55 |
| imbrandon | it == the buildd's | 01:55 |
| imbrandon | now that they are useable, maybe not finished but useable | 01:55 |
| imbrandon | then when ajmitch does some majic on them will be really nice | 01:55 |
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| ajmitch | like what? :) | 01:56 |
| ajmitch | 'requestbuild foobar amd64' ? | 01:56 |
| ajmitch | wait a bit & get logs? | 01:56 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 01:56 |
| Fujitsu | Mmm, shiny. | 01:56 |
| ajmitch | should be easy enough to do | 01:56 |
| ajmitch | hack requestsync, send gpg-signed mail to some email address | 01:57 |
| ajmitch | use procmail to fire requests off to the buildds | 01:57 |
| imbrandon | yea , like "ssh $user@amd64:pbuiler-feisty build blah.dsc" | 01:57 |
| ajmitch | pbuilder --logfile, etc, all done | 01:57 |
| imbrandon | or soemthing behind the seen | 01:57 |
| ajmitch | yeah, that's one option | 01:57 |
| ajmitch | but that doesn't allow for async operations very well | 01:58 |
| imbrandon | hrm true | 01:58 |
| ajmitch | or requesting builds of 100 packages at a time | 01:58 |
| Fujitsu | wanna-build! | 01:58 |
| ajmitch | which I would tend to do | 01:58 |
| ajmitch | Fujitsu: sure, I'll look at the options :) | 01:58 |
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| imbrandon | ;) | 01:58 |
| Fujitsu | That is what wanna-build is designed for, is it not? | 01:58 |
| ajmitch | more or less | 01:58 |
| imbrandon | mostly | 01:59 |
| imbrandon | now i just need to add the ram to that box, finish up the menu | 01:59 |
| imbrandon | and pub some doc's / instructions | 02:00 |
| === ajmitch might see if a build queue could be distributed a bit | ||
| siretart | hi ajmitch | 02:00 |
| ajmitch | since I'm sure you'll want to get multiple machines | 02:00 |
| siretart | huhu imbrandon | 02:00 |
| imbrandon | heya siretart | 02:00 |
| ajmitch | hey siretart | 02:00 |
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| imbrandon | ajmitch, yup yup | 02:00 |
| ajmitch | how are you? | 02:00 |
| siretart | ajmitch: I'm at work :) | 02:00 |
| ajmitch | heh :) | 02:00 |
| siretart | and you? | 02:01 |
| imbrandon | ajmitch, yea the pan is to eventualy have 2x each minimum | 02:01 |
| ajmitch | siretart: do you use wanna-build? | 02:01 |
| Fujitsu | ajmitch: Couldn't we have a global MOTU build queue, possibly distributed over multiple sites? | 02:01 |
| imbrandon | err | 02:01 |
| ajmitch | siretart: about to go to bed | 02:01 |
| ajmitch | Fujitsu: that's what I was thinking of, yes | 02:01 |
| === Fujitsu heads off to bed too. | ||
| siretart | ajmitch: not yet, but I had it on my list once. what do you want it for? | 02:01 |
| ajmitch | siretart: MOTU build farm, imbrandon has machines up & running & accounts available | 02:01 |
| ajmitch | but I want to go beyond that | 02:01 |
| Fujitsu | A central wanna-build, with a million or two sbuilds running build would be great. | 02:01 |
| siretart | ajmitch: care to announce your faboulus bug lists? | 02:01 |
| siretart | ajmitch: I guess we'll get that for free with the personal package archives, no? | 02:02 |
| Fujitsu | *running builds | 02:02 |
| ajmitch | siretart: I guess, I was just going through & filing sync requests while I could :) | 02:02 |
| Fujitsu | siretart, if they ever land, perhaps. | 02:02 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 02:02 |
| azeem | I've missed the beginning of the conversation, what are the builders needed for? | 02:02 |
| imbrandon | siretart, yea but this is by the people for the people ;) | 02:02 |
| imbrandon | pluss open / free | 02:02 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 02:02 |
| ajmitch | siretart: I want to add comments field to it before I announce it more | 02:02 |
| siretart | ajmitch: ah, I see | 02:03 |
| Fujitsu | azeem, for those of us who don't wish to carry out lots of builds on our own, slow machines. | 02:03 |
| Fujitsu | And stuff. | 02:03 |
| Fujitsu | Or on other archs. | 02:03 |
| imbrandon | azeem, i did it firstly to give MOTU access to other arches like the debian porter machines | 02:03 |
| siretart | Fujitsu: so something like debian/experimental for ubuntu/universe? | 02:03 |
| Fujitsu | siretart, pardon? | 02:03 |
| siretart | Fujitsu: in debian, we have a 'special' upload target called 'experimental', which is a seperate dak suite from 'unstable' | 02:04 |
| Fujitsu | Noted. | 02:04 |
| siretart | Fujitsu: DDs can upload there and have their package built on a special buildd network | 02:04 |
| Fujitsu | But that's also then published. | 02:04 |
| siretart | on the official mirror network. right | 02:04 |
| azeem | ah, ok | 02:04 |
| ajmitch | hi azeem | 02:05 |
| StevenK | Ah. More deception about the experimental buildds | 02:05 |
| azeem | heya | 02:05 |
| StevenK | :-P | 02:05 |
| Fujitsu | StevenK: What deception would this be? | 02:05 |
| StevenK | Fujitsu: Note the ":-P" | 02:05 |
| ajmitch | StevenK, full of bitterness & rage :) | 02:05 |
| azeem | you sound like Barry | 02:05 |
| Fujitsu | Aha. | 02:05 |
| === ajmitch wonders if he's been reading -private or something :) | ||
| StevenK | Me? Sadly, yes | 02:06 |
| ajmitch | haha | 02:06 |
| imbrandon | azeem, basicly what it is right now is i have 3 boxes in a DC i work at behind the IP build.imbrandon.com that sync accounts from LP for ubuntu-{,-core}-dev and their sshkeys , with pbuilders setup for all current ubuntu targets , to give all MOTU's access | 02:06 |
| imbrandon | but ajmitch ( and me ) have dreams about makin it bigger | 02:07 |
| === ajmitch more has plans for making it easier | ||
| imbrandon | kinda akin to the debian porter boxen atm | 02:07 |
| StevenK | Which arches? | 02:07 |
| imbrandon | ppc amd64 x86 | 02:07 |
| ajmitch | imbrandon: will there be chroots available for testing stuff? | 02:07 |
| StevenK | Where's the SPARC? :-P | 02:07 |
| imbrandon | ajmitch, other than pbuilder-$dist login ? | 02:08 |
| Fujitsu | ajmitch, pbuilder-[release] | 02:08 |
| Fujitsu | *login | 02:08 |
| imbrandon | StevenK, send me a sparc and i'll rack it | 02:08 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 02:08 |
| Fujitsu | Damn, I'm somewhat too tired to type. | 02:08 |
| Fujitsu | Goodnight, for real this time! | 02:08 |
| StevenK | % ssh root@e uname -m | 02:08 |
| imbrandon | gnight Fujitsu | 02:08 |
| StevenK | sparc64 | 02:08 |
| StevenK | And it's staying here | 02:08 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 02:08 |
| Nafallo | I can't delete from nafallo@aurora:/storage/pbuilders/feisty/result ;-) | 02:09 |
| imbrandon | Nafallo, ahh yea i probably have to play with the dir perms a bit | 02:09 |
| imbrandon | i'll fix that up here in a few | 02:09 |
| ajmitch | imbrandon: yes, easier than that | 02:09 |
| Nafallo | or make a cron that cleans it out automatically in cron.daily or something :-P | 02:09 |
| ajmitch | imbrandon: even a simple script on your system to start pbuilder & mail results would be better for me | 02:10 |
| imbrandon | Nafallo, yea that too | 02:10 |
| StevenK | imbrandon: I'd suggest 1775 for /pbuilders/*/result | 02:10 |
| StevenK | ajmitch: pdebuild | tee file && mail file | 02:10 |
| ajmitch | StevenK: whatever works, I don't care :) | 02:10 |
| StevenK | Heh | 02:11 |
| ajmitch | plus I hate using pdebuild | 02:11 |
| ajmitch | too many screwed up packages with bad clean: targets | 02:11 |
| StevenK | Yeah, well | 02:11 |
| imbrandon | done and done | 02:12 |
| StevenK | Oh drat, my log cleaner didn't work for my mirror | 02:12 |
| ajmitch | anyway, I have to go & sleep as well | 02:12 |
| imbrandon | gnight ajmitch | 02:12 |
| ajmitch | night all | 02:12 |
| StevenK | Ah, it did, it just cleans up 2 months ago | 02:13 |
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| imbrandon | time to make some coffee | 02:14 |
| StevenK | Ahhh, it does use rm -v, it just doesn't log it. Silly thing. | 02:14 |
| siretart | imbrandon: cool! thanks for your offer! | 02:15 |
| imbrandon | siretart, np ;) its been in the works since before UDS | 02:16 |
| imbrandon | just now getting asrround to makin it happen | 02:16 |
| StevenK | imbrandon: I'm curious how beefy the machines are. | 02:17 |
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| StevenK | If it's scarily faster than my 3GHz amd64, I'd consider it | 02:17 |
| imbrandon | the x86 is a model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.66GHz with 256mb ram ( 2gb ready to put in just havent been to the DC yet to do it ) | 02:17 |
| imbrandon | the x86_64 is a pent-d 3ghz with 4gb ddr2 | 02:18 |
| StevenK | You lose. :-P | 02:18 |
| imbrandon | and the ppc is a 800mhz ppc with 640mb ram | 02:18 |
| imbrandon | the x86_64 is dual core also | 02:18 |
| StevenK | Ah | 02:18 |
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| imbrandon | heh | 02:19 |
| StevenK | Like Xnest and installing ubuntu-desktop | 02:19 |
| imbrandon | hahahaa | 02:19 |
| StevenK | It's for a good purpose, honest. :-P | 02:19 |
| StevenK | Does the ssh config allow X11 forwarding? | 02:19 |
| imbrandon | as of this moment yes, unless it gets abused | 02:20 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 02:20 |
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| StevenK | I'm not planning on abusing it. | 02:20 |
| imbrandon | hehe i know | 02:20 |
| imbrandon | but its good for testing xapps | 02:20 |
| imbrandon | so i left it on | 02:20 |
| === StevenK nods. | ||
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| StevenK | Hrm. Can I jump directly to the ppc? | 02:26 |
| imbrandon | no its behind nat ( thus the pdmenu i was makin ) but the ppc and 64 are off for the next few hours | 02:28 |
| imbrandon | i havent put the new switch in | 02:28 |
| imbrandon | but i am doing that today | 02:29 |
| StevenK | Gah, I wanted to use the ppc. :-) | 02:29 |
| imbrandon | hehe give me a few hours ( by the time you wake up ) | 02:29 |
| imbrandon | and it will be up | 02:29 |
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| imbrandon | actualy hrm | 02:34 |
| imbrandon | i could probably put 2 nics in the webserver and then just run ssh on diffrent ports for the ppc etc | 02:34 |
| StevenK | Indeed | 02:34 |
| imbrandon | then you would be able to jump right to them if wished | 02:34 |
| imbrandon | *thinks* | 02:35 |
| StevenK | You don't need to run it on different ports, but DNAT from the webserver | 02:35 |
| imbrandon | DNAT / | 02:35 |
| imbrandon | ? | 02:35 |
| StevenK | Beg your hosting provider for /29. :-P | 02:35 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 02:35 |
| StevenK | Destination Network Addressing Translation | 02:36 |
| siretart | imbrandon: if you are really interested in hosting sparcs, I can ask here in the departement, if there is an old one available. however, it won't be fast! | 02:36 |
| StevenK | siretart: I was yanking imbrandon's chain. :-) | 02:36 |
| imbrandon | siretart, i dont mind about speed at all, it would be nice | 02:36 |
| imbrandon | specialy if it was rackable | 02:36 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 02:36 |
| siretart | I doubt we have any 19" sparcs | 02:36 |
| imbrandon | since it is a suported arch | 02:36 |
| imbrandon | siretart, hehe nice but not nessesary | 02:37 |
| imbrandon | i have rack shelfs | 02:37 |
| StevenK | Most lowend sparcs aren't rackable | 02:37 |
| StevenK | Heh heh, "lowend" | 02:37 |
| siretart | were do you live? (where would I need to ship it to?) | 02:37 |
| imbrandon | kansas city , missouri | 02:37 |
| siretart | wow | 02:37 |
| StevenK | Redneck County | 02:37 |
| imbrandon | heh | 02:37 |
| imbrandon | BWHAHA | 02:37 |
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| imbrandon | dead center of the USA | 02:38 |
| siretart | sending sparcs from europe to germany, heh | 02:38 |
| imbrandon | ouch, your in EU ? | 02:38 |
| siretart | yepp, germany more specifically | 02:38 |
| imbrandon | wow , yea lemme see about some thing localy | 02:39 |
| imbrandon | first | 02:39 |
| siretart | how do you manage your machines? do you use cfengine or puppet or something? | 02:39 |
| imbrandon | ummm no | 02:39 |
| imbrandon | mine or company wise? | 02:39 |
| StevenK | I'm guessing "Manually" | 02:39 |
| siretart | no, I don't think it makes sense to ship it that far. I'd better see if I can host it somewhere here | 02:39 |
| imbrandon | yea | 02:39 |
| siretart | a friend did offer a spare ultra 30 to ubuntu, which was used as buildd for universe for I think half a year | 02:40 |
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| imbrandon | ;) | 02:40 |
| StevenK | imbrandon: To be honest though, ask about a /29, at our datacentre, it didn't end up costing us much more | 02:40 |
| siretart | then it became mandatory for buildds to be in the canonical datacentre, then we shut the box down | 02:40 |
| imbrandon | i had an ultra 5 ( 200mhz ) a few months ago, i should have kept it | 02:40 |
| siretart | perhaps I can ask joerg to repower it | 02:41 |
| imbrandon | StevenK, its all free ( for me anyhow ) but yea | 02:41 |
| StevenK | Ultra 5's didn't hit 200MHz, if I recall | 02:41 |
| siretart | but I don't think I have time and interest to admin yet another box | 02:41 |
| imbrandon | i could prorbhavbly get a class c if i whigned enough | 02:41 |
| StevenK | Or was it 300? | 02:41 |
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| imbrandon | yea the ultra 5's had 2 and 400 mhz iirc | 02:41 |
| imbrandon | that was top end | 02:42 |
| StevenK | I think there was one in the middle, too | 02:42 |
| imbrandon | probably | 02:42 |
| siretart | imbrandon: if you want to do it properly, we perhaps would need to think about having a managment infrastructure, involving ldap, kerb and cfengine | 02:42 |
| StevenK | The processor ran at 270, 300, 333, 360 or 400 MHz, depending on model. | 02:42 |
| StevenK | Wikipedia to the rescue | 02:42 |
| imbrandon | siretart, yea i'm actualy writing /wrote some custom scripts to import LP accounts just to keep it manageable | 02:43 |
| imbrandon | as far as accounts | 02:43 |
| imbrandon | and sshkeys etc | 02:43 |
| imbrandon | StevenK, hehe | 02:43 |
| siretart | imbrandon: cfengine scripts? | 02:43 |
| imbrandon | bash , lol | 02:44 |
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| siretart | hm. I see | 02:44 |
| Kano | so | 02:44 |
| Kano | found next broken package | 02:44 |
| Kano | cfv | 02:44 |
| Kano | Setting up cfv (1.18.1-0ubuntu2) ... | 02:44 |
| Kano | /usr/bin/python: can't open file '/usr/lib/python/compileall.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory | 02:44 |
| Kano | dpkg: error processing cfv (--configure): | 02:44 |
| Kano | subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2 | 02:44 |
| Kano | Errors were encountered while processing: | 02:44 |
| Kano | cfv | 02:44 |
| StevenK | Ah ha | 02:45 |
| StevenK | Kano: I can look at uploading a fixed package nowish / in the morning, if you like? | 02:46 |
| imbrandon | siretart, definately, i'm not a management expert basicly i put the hardware in the rack and supply the bandwidth etc heheh | 02:46 |
| imbrandon | but we're working on it as we go ;) | 02:46 |
| imbrandon | today was the first "public" useage | 02:46 |
| imbrandon | ( and ajmitch as admin on the box too ) | 02:46 |
| Kano | it is very crazy, in theory that file is not even availble in debian... | 02:46 |
| Kano | at that position | 02:47 |
| StevenK | Kano: Yes, it needs to be updated to the new Python policy | 02:47 |
| Kano | debian/postinst: /usr/bin/$PYTHON -O /usr/lib/python$PV/compileall.py -q $i | 02:47 |
| Kano | debian/postinst: /usr/bin/$PYTHON /usr/lib/python$PV/compileall.py -q $i | 02:47 |
| Kano | because a $PV var is used... | 02:47 |
| Kano | PV=`dpkg --listfiles $PACKAGE | sed -n -e '/^\/usr\/lib\/python.*\//{ | 02:48 |
| Kano | s,/usr/lib/python\([0-9] [0-9.] *\)/.*,\1,p | 02:48 |
| Kano | q | 02:48 |
| Kano | }'` | 02:48 |
| StevenK | Kano: Yes, that's the old way. | 02:48 |
| Kano | stupid hack | 02:48 |
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| StevenK | Kano: Test building a fixed package | 02:51 |
| siretart | imbrandon: :) | 02:51 |
| Kano | the --listfiles is a joke | 02:51 |
| Kano | as there is no /usr/lib/python in cfv | 02:52 |
| Kano | and package must be cfv | 02:52 |
| StevenK | Kano: I'm sure it was an oversight | 02:52 |
| StevenK | Kano: Fixed package uploaded, it will take a little while to hit the archive. | 02:54 |
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| Kano | also why has the debian package python-dev as build dep and the ubuntu one not | 02:55 |
| StevenK | Kano: Thanks for giving me a bug to fix. :-) | 02:55 |
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| StevenK | Kano: Because the Debian one hasn't been changed to the new Python policy, I'm guessing. | 02:56 |
| imbrandon | ok guys i'm heading home | 02:56 |
| Kano | where can i test your fixed package? | 02:57 |
| imbrandon | see yall in a few | 02:57 |
| StevenK | Kano: I can put it on the web, if you like | 02:57 |
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| StevenK | Kano: To be honest, if you wait around a day, it should hit the archive automatically | 02:58 |
| Kano | i want it now | 02:59 |
| Kano | do you really think i want a day when i need a package? | 02:59 |
| Kano | wait | 02:59 |
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| StevenK | Kano: http://wedontsleep.org/~steven/test/cfv_1.18.1-0ubuntu3_all.deb | 03:00 |
| Kano | fine | 03:01 |
| Kano | i really like cfv | 03:01 |
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| lucas | ajmitch: I can re-run them in a few weeks, yes | 03:09 |
| lucas | \sh: i386 chroot on amd64 | 03:09 |
| lucas | I think it's in the mail | 03:09 |
| lucas | geser: [xmms2] I looked at it a while ago (since I uploaded it to edgy), but couldn't understand why it failed, so I filed a bug and gave up. | 03:10 |
| geser | lucas: I'm now in a similar situation. It builds fine in a pbuilder and during your rebuild but failed on the buildds claiming it couldn't find a c compiler. I hope to get a a buildd admin to look at it | 03:13 |
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| crimsun | tsmithe: asoundconf-gtk uploaded, archived. | 03:30 |
| Q-FUNK | what nickname does till kampetter use here? | 03:34 |
| crimsun | tkamppeter in -devel. | 03:34 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 03:38 |
| Q-FUNK | crimsun: thanks | 03:41 |
| geser | hi bddebian | 03:43 |
| bddebian | Heya geser | 03:43 |
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| bddebian | OK, where the heck is the build queue these days? | 03:48 |
| crimsun | distros/ubuntu/feisty/+queue | 03:48 |
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| bddebian | crimsun: Thx. I'm a little confused though. I got three accepted mails this morning but the source packages still don't show up on LP? | 03:53 |
| crimsun | 09:27 < Mithrandir> pitti: yes and no, not yet. (I'll do it soonish, but | 03:53 |
| crimsun | something has locked the distrorelease table so we can't | 03:53 |
| crimsun | flip feisty back to development) | 03:53 |
| bddebian | Am I supposed to be able to make sense of that? :-) | 03:54 |
| crimsun | apologies for formatting. | 03:56 |
| crimsun | source packages still require a manual shove | 03:57 |
| crimsun | "something has locked the distrorelease table so we can't flip feisty back to development" [for cron'ed processing] | 03:57 |
| bddebian | Ah, OK thx | 03:58 |
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| \sh | lucas:yepp...read it....could you check the sbuild/chroot errors? 148 or 149 packages are on the list, but are building | 04:02 |
| gnomefreak | can i use any svn to build a package for ubuntu? | 04:06 |
| crimsun | err, clarify? | 04:06 |
| gnomefreak | like there is a FC6 svn can i use that to build a ubuntu package? | 04:07 |
| crimsun | you can do anything you want for yourself | 04:07 |
| gnomefreak | k | 04:08 |
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| gnomefreak | ty | 04:09 |
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| Q-FUNK | bug 82674 | 04:13 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 82674 in cups-pdf "add/remove the PDF printer in CUPS at installation/removal time" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82674 | 04:13 |
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| sistpoty | hi folks | 04:47 |
| bddebian | Heya sistpoty | 04:49 |
| sistpoty | hi bddebian | 04:49 |
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| bigon | Hi, does anyone know what happened with pam-keyring? The package seems to have been sync but there is no infomations on the lp | 05:03 |
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| sistpoty | bigon: maybe it's still in the new queue? | 05:09 |
| bigon | sistpoty: maybe, but the bugreport has been closed last Monday | 05:10 |
| sistpoty | bigon: yep, it's still in the new-queue: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+queue?start=20 | 05:11 |
| Adri2000 | should we keep the ubuntu changelog entries for a fakesync (because of different orig.tar.gz)? | 05:11 |
| bigon | sistpoty: thanks :) | 05:12 |
| sistpoty | Adri2000: I guess you can delete them. if it's identical to the debian package the changelog entries might just lead to confusion for the next merge | 05:12 |
| sistpoty | bigon: np | 05:13 |
| Adri2000 | sistpoty: ok | 05:14 |
| Adri2000 | and fakesync means I just upload .dsc and .diff.gz, so we keep the ubuntu orig.tar.gz? | 05:14 |
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| sistpoty | Adri2000: yes | 05:19 |
| sistpoty | Adri2000: as you can only change the orig.tar.gz if it's a differnt upstream version | 05:20 |
| Adri2000 | ok | 05:21 |
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| bddebian | Uhm, if the package uses python-central but does this in rules: export PYTHON=/usr/bin/python2.4 | 05:27 |
| bddebian | doesn't it defeat the purpose? | 05:27 |
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| sistpoty | bddebian: not quite sure, but it doesn't make much sense to me | 05:30 |
| \sh | ok...leaving office for cologne... | 05:31 |
| \sh | cu | 05:31 |
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| \sh | or have a nice weekend :) | 05:31 |
| bddebian | You too \sh_away | 05:31 |
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| Adri2000 | argh, my fake sync got rejected :( | 05:42 |
| Adri2000 | sistpoty: still here? | 05:42 |
| sistpoty | Adri2000: yes | 05:42 |
| sistpoty | Adri2000: what did you get? md5 mismatch of orig.tar.gz? | 05:43 |
| Adri2000 | yes | 05:43 |
| Adri2000 | I didn't upload the orig.tar.gz | 05:43 |
| sistpoty | Adri2000: well, you'll need to exchange the orig.tar.gz with the ubuntu one and then build the source package | 05:44 |
| bddebian | Aye | 05:44 |
| sistpoty | Adri2000: might involve changing the .dsc by hand in case dpkg-buildpackage makes trouble | 05:44 |
| Adri2000 | build the source package using the ubuntu orig.tar.gz instead of the debian one, right? | 05:46 |
| sistpoty | Adri2000: exactly | 05:46 |
| Adri2000 | what I don't understand is "File glob2_0.8.21.orig.tar.gz mentioned in the changes has a checksum mismatch.", it is not mentionned in the .changes | 05:47 |
| Adri2000 | -n | 05:47 |
| sistpoty | Adri2000: it's mentioned in the .dsc | 05:47 |
| Adri2000 | ah, yes, ok | 05:47 |
| bddebian | Gah -devel is getting cranky :-) | 05:49 |
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| Adri2000 | Accepted glob2 0.8.21-4build1 (source), yay! | 06:06 |
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| dholbach | good night everybody - have a nice WE! | 07:58 |
| Lutin | g'night dholbach | 07:58 |
| dholbach | bye Lutin | 07:58 |
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| ajmitch | morning all | 08:37 |
| bddebian | Heya ajmitch | 08:37 |
| ScottK | Good morning. | 08:39 |
| siretart | grr, why I keep missing sistpoty... | 08:40 |
| ajmitch | siretart: different timezones :) | 08:40 |
| siretart | ajmitch: hrhr ;) | 08:40 |
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| bddebian | huhu siretart | 08:46 |
| bddebian | Damn, I think I'm losing another laptop HD :-( | 08:48 |
| siretart | hey bddebian | 08:49 |
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| sistpoty | huhu siretart | 09:09 |
| ajmitch | sistpoty! | 09:10 |
| sistpoty | hi ajmitch | 09:10 |
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| siretart | hey sistpoty! | 09:18 |
| sistpoty | hi siretart, how are you? | 09:18 |
| siretart | sistpoty: you're cheating with just changing your nick! ;) | 09:18 |
| siretart | sistpoty: great, shall I give you a phone call? | 09:18 |
| sistpoty | siretart: I'm innocent... was the 24h disconnet ;) | 09:18 |
| sistpoty | siretart: sure | 09:19 |
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| givr1 | heya motu, is there somebody with some time to upload http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4249 ? | 09:24 |
| givr1 | this is the latest version of ntfs-3g with *a lot* of bug fixes | 09:24 |
| bddebian | Just upload eh, no reviews? :) | 09:27 |
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| givr1 | bddebian: hum, i thought it wasn't needed for package already reviewed... | 09:29 |
| givr1 | might be wrong | 09:29 |
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| Adri2000 | at least the motu who uploads it should review it | 09:30 |
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| givr1 | Adri2000: ok, so i was wrong ;) | 09:31 |
| bddebian | -> Considering libfuse-dev (>= 2.6) | 09:32 |
| bddebian | Tried versions: 2.5.3-4.1ubuntu3 | 09:32 |
| bddebian | -> Does not satisfy version, not trying | 09:32 |
| bddebian | E: Could not satisfy build-dependency. | 09:32 |
| bddebian | E: pbuilder-satisfydepends failed. | 09:32 |
| givr1 | bddebian: hum, you need ultra up to date feisty, fuse 2.6.2 has been just merge in feisty | 09:33 |
| givr1 | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/feisty-changes/2007-February/004584.html | 09:34 |
| bddebian | givr1: Well it still ain't there yet | 09:37 |
| givr1 | bddebian: hum, i saw it was, sorry :( | 09:39 |
| bddebian | No worries | 09:41 |
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| TheMuso | Hey MOTUs. | 09:53 |
| ajmitch | hi MOTU | 09:53 |
| Adri2000 | hi MOTUs and MOTU | 09:53 |
| bddebian | Heya TheMuso | 09:54 |
| zul | right im going home.. | 09:55 |
| ajmitch | bye | 09:56 |
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| bddebian | Lutin: Did kayali get rejected again?? | 10:21 |
| Lutin | bddebian: indeed | 10:21 |
| bddebian | For what? | 10:21 |
| Lutin | pitti rejected it because I wans't including the adobe license file in the fonts dir | 10:22 |
| bddebian | Ahh, OK | 10:22 |
| Lutin | (was in debian/copyright though, but apparently it wasn't enough ;) = | 10:22 |
| bddebian | Is crimsun away does anyone know? | 10:33 |
| TheMuso | bddebian: Did you check his whois/ | 10:34 |
| bddebian | No | 10:34 |
| Nafallo | his wii :-) | 10:34 |
| bddebian | hehe | 10:35 |
| TheMuso | Well according to that, he is. | 10:35 |
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| gnomefreak | anyone know off hand what version of scribus debian unstable uses? | 10:37 |
| bddebian | 1.2.5.dfsg-5 | 10:37 |
| gnomefreak | im uploading 1.3.3.7 to my site but im not good at official building :( | 10:38 |
| gnomefreak | its "stable" from what they say | 10:38 |
| gnomefreak | would i need a spec to get the newest version in feisty? | 10:40 |
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| bddebian | gnomefreak: Nope, build it and put it on REVU | 10:41 |
| gnomefreak | bddebian: i will see if i can build it ill work on it this weekend | 10:42 |
| gnomefreak | problem being i would have to make all the files by hand (rules,copyright,control) so on | 10:42 |
| gnomefreak | right? | 10:42 |
| bddebian | I wouldn't. I would copy the /debian dir from the latest Debian version and start from there | 10:43 |
| gnomefreak | ah ok i will see what i can do this weekend than | 10:43 |
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| gnomefreak | bddebian: doesnt look like i need to do it scribus-ng 1.3.3.6.dfsg-1 in ubuntu adn 1.3.3.7.dfsg-1 in debian. i didnt think to look for scribus-ng | 11:07 |
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| bddebian | gnomefreak: Ah, sorry | 11:09 |
| gnomefreak | its ok :) | 11:09 |
| bddebian | Later gang | 11:12 |
| ScottK | Later | 11:12 |
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| nedko | TheMuso: any progress with fpconst package? | 11:16 |
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| BrendanM | Hello, I was told to ask in here for a package to be added to Ubuntu? | 11:17 |
| somerville32 | Ok | 11:18 |
| BrendanM | I am trying to get this software called Neuron to work. It is available here: http://www.neuron.yale.edu/neuron/install/install.html it is a specialized scientific program for simulating neurons, but it's very widely used among neuroscientists/students | 11:19 |
| BrendanM | I tried installing the Debian package there, but it didn't work on my system | 11:19 |
| BrendanM | it keeps giving me an error that says "error while loading shared libraries: libIVhines.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" | 11:20 |
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| BrendanM | So can I request a rebuild for Ubuntu? | 11:27 |
| ScottK | BrendanM: Neither Debian nor Ubuntu have a package with that library in it. You'll need to find out what is supposed to provide it. | 11:27 |
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| BrendanM | When I searched for that library, it came up with RPM stuff | 11:27 |
| BrendanM | so I don't know if maybe that debian package was converted from an rpm and that's why it's asking for it or what | 11:28 |
| ScottK | The problem is I don't know what IT is... | 11:29 |
| ScottK | If you found RPM stuff, what was the name of the library and where does it's source come from? | 11:29 |
| BrendanM | The name of the library is "libIVhines.so.3" I think | 11:38 |
| BrendanM | I found this: http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=libIVhines.so.3()(64bit) | 11:38 |
| BrendanM | it comes from something called InterViews, apparently | 11:39 |
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| BrendanM | Hey! I got it working! Yay! Now I can ..... do my homework... | 11:46 |
| BrendanM | The trick was to install another debian package from the same site for InterViews. I don't know why it wasn't listed as a dependency | 11:47 |
| ScottK | What did you do? | 11:47 |
| ScottK | Ah | 11:47 |
| BrendanM | I still think this is something that would be good to include in the repositories. Especially for Scibuntu. | 11:47 |
| ScottK | Looks like it's called ivtools in Debian and Ubuntu. http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=ivtools&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all | 11:49 |
| gnomefreak | what can be done if there is no package in debian for one im building? all i need is the 4 or so files rules,control,ect... | 11:49 |
| gnomefreak | thats a question :( | 11:49 |
| ScottK | BrendanM: There is a MOTU Science team that you might want to discuss this with. https://launchpad.net/~motuscience | 11:50 |
| BrendanM | yeah, apparently the package I installed from here: http://www.scientificcomputing.net/debian/packages/neuron/ which is iv_17-1_i386.deb, is a specially modified version of InterViews to work with Neuron | 11:50 |
| ScottK | gnomefreak: Make a package? | 11:50 |
| ScottK | That's what I had to do. | 11:50 |
| BrendanM | thanks, I might do that | 11:50 |
| gnomefreak | looking on the ubuntu packaging guide to see if they tell you how | 11:51 |
| ScottK | This is my package for one little tine Perl library I needed: https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+source/libnet-dns-resolver-programmable-perl | 11:51 |
| sistpoty | lucas: for the list of binary packages: how about grep Binary Sources | cut -d' ' -f 2- | sed -e's/,/\n/g' | sed -e's/ //g' | 11:53 |
| sistpoty | lucas: with Sources being the extracted sources.gz file | 11:53 |
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| geser | sistpoty: you can replace the two sed with one: ... | sed -e 's/,/\n/g' -e's/ //g' | 12:03 |
| sistpoty | geser: ah, nice | 12:03 |
| geser | or even better: sed -e 's/, /\n/g' | 12:04 |
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