sistpotyhi folks12:13
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coNPhi sistpoty 12:16
sistpotyhi coNP12:16
ScottKHi sistpoty.12:17
sistpotyhi ScottK12:17
coNPsistpoty: I tried out what you suggested, concerning bug 82436, however recommends is not enough, because recommended packages are not installed by default (neither by gnome-app-install)12:17
UbugtuMalone bug 82436 in wesnoth "wesnoth-all meta-package request (for gnome-app-install)" [Unknown,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8243612:17
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sistpotycoNP: recommends still aren't installed by default? I though this spec would have been implemented some time ago :/12:18
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coNPnot by apt-get nor gnome-app-installer12:20
sistpotycoNP: however I still think recommends is the saner way than to add a meta-package...12:20
coNPsistpoty: sure, but what to do if I want that packages to be installed12:21
sistpotycoNP: the package manager *should* provide a mechanism for the recommends, so this would then be not a bug of wesnoth12:24
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sistpotylol, now this is a funny (C) entry: Copyright (C) 2001 Queen of England12:26
TheMusosistpoty: lol12:31
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Toadstoolgar, I hate LP polls system...01:09
ajmitcheveryone does01:10
ajmitchI suppose we'd better start voting for the council01:10
Toadstoolalready done :)01:10
=== ajmitch hasn't voted yet :)
Toadstoolhurry up, only 13 days left !01:13
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=== TheMuso goes to vote.
ajmitchoh, andrew mitchell01:14
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=== Fujitsu wonders when the new-upstream-version frenzy will start... I'm surprised it hasn't already.
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ajmitchpeople still have a couple of days01:16
FujitsuAlmost a week, in fact.01:16
ajmitchit shouldn't start until about 2 hours before UVF01:16
crimsunor 2 hours after UVF. :-)01:17
ajmitchmore likely01:17
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ajmitchcrimsun: you're ready & willing to stand for the council?01:17
crimsunmust be an imposter01:17
ajmitchI feared as much01:18
shawarmaFujitsu: I've got a packaging marathon planned this weekend. :-) 01:19
Toadstoolwhat's that? running ~42 kms with a laptop while packaging?01:20
ajmitchToadstool: it's easier if you use something like one of those new nokia devices01:20
Toadstoolthat's cheating :)01:20
shawarmaToadstool: Close. We've got a 24 hour free software hacking session at the university. I'm going to spend my time catching up on packaging.01:21
FujitsuA laptop? That's crazy! You need to carry a desktop!01:21
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Toadstoolwith a 21" CRT?01:21
ajmitchFujitsu: ssh 01:21
FujitsuToadstool, yep.01:21
shawarmaThat's a classic. :-)01:22
ajmitchshame it refuses direct links01:22
shawarmaajmitch: Really? http://www.digitalfog.com/gallery/portablecomputer.htm01:22
FujitsuWhat a great beryl version number:01:23
Fujitsu(That's 0.2.0rc1)01:23
shawarmaYeah, i don't get that either. They're actually using ~'s, so why not 0.2~rc1?01:23
FujitsuExactly what I thought.01:24
FujitsuIf they didn't know about ~, it might be reasonable.01:24
crimsunI scolded Trevino, but he didn't understand 0.2~rc1-0ubuntu1, apparently.01:25
shawarmaKids.. 01:25
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=== ajmitch wonders if dpkg-deb should have some mandatory skill questions to unlock it
shawarmacrimsun: Thanks for your help with the aoss stuff, by the way. I got it working. 01:28
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shawarmacrimsun: I have now succesfully reencoded one of those nasty DRM-infested WMA things to ogg by way of VirtualBox, WinXP, ALSA/OSS emulation, the alsa file plugin, mplayer and oggenc. Wicked!01:31
shawarmaI had to install WinXP to do it, but I got rid of the crappy DRM stuff. I can't really figure out the karma in that..01:32
crimsunshawarma: :-)01:33
crimsunhmm, does it make sense to be able to approve or disapprove $self in those polls?01:35
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shawarmaGoodnight, guys!01:36
shawarmaand Hobsee.01:36
Hobbseehey shawarma.  night!01:38
Hobbseecrimsun: in which polls?01:38
TheMusoHobbsee: Read ubuntu-motu@.01:39
ajmitchcrimsun: the poll info is arbitrary, not tied to a person01:40
HobbseeTheMuso: the MOTU council one?01:40
ajmitchthey just happen to have names01:40
TheMusoHobbsee: Yep.01:40
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TheMusoIt would be better if it/c01:46
=== ajmitch doesn't understand why the votes we cast are protected by these top s3kr3t keys
TheMusoIt would be better if it had more election style polls.01:46
ajmitchpolls on LP suck01:46
Fujitsuajmitch, so it can't possibly be traced to you.01:46
TheMusoFujitsu: Point.01:46
ajmitchFujitsu: that doesn't explain why I need to enter some random string to get access to my votes again01:47
ajmitchclassic quote01:47
ajmitch23:57 < sabdfl> oh for heavens sake!01:47
ajmitch23:57 < sabdfl> the poll system is driving *me* nuts01:47
Fujitsuajmitch, yes it does.01:47
FujitsuHeheh, yeah.01:47
Fujitsuajmitch, how else can it track the votes?01:47
geserajmitch: LP seems to only know you voted but not how01:48
Fujitsugeser, of course. That's how it01:48
Fujitsu*it's secret.01:48
ajmitchit can track how we voted, just not show it anywhere01:48
FujitsuBut then the LP people can see it.01:48
ajmitchbig deal :)01:48
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geserFujitsu: if the LP people can see how each motu voted why this secret keys?01:51
Fujitsugeser, the point is, with the secret keys they /can't/ see it.01:51
FujitsuThat's the whole point.01:51
FujitsuWithout them (ie. a public or semi-secret poll) they can.01:52
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gesercrimsun: the upload of php4-yaz for dapper-updates you sponsored in sep 2006 got rejected now (bug 58564)01:58
UbugtuMalone bug 58564 in php4-yaz "php4-yaz won't install (broken dependency)" [Medium,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/5856401:58
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zulwhats the url again for the voting?02:00
geserzul: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-dev/+polls02:02
crimsungeser: what was the rationale?02:05
geserthere was none in that e-mail02:05
crimsunhmm. I presume it's because we didn't go through dapper-proposed.02:06
geserdid it exist in sep 2006 already?02:07
crimsunno idea, but let's do it now.02:07
crimsunwe likely didn't have motu-sru in sept '0602:08
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geserI'd open a sru bug for it but I don't have a dapper system (or chroot) to test the package02:10
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sistpotygn8 everyone02:19
crimsunslomo: HAL issue should be fixed now [http://hg-mirror.alsa-project.org/alsa-kernel?cs=fc216dd0eb92 ] 02:19
gnomefreakcrimsun: good luck going for motu-council02:27
zulthere should be like a debate or something....ooh...attack ads02:29
ajmitchwhat do you want people to debate?02:29
ajmitchand I suppose you want election speeches & all02:29
zuldamn straight02:29
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ScottKThis is OT, but an interesting vector for security issues that I wouldn't have thought of ..  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6320865.stm - voice commands.03:14
DarkMageZhmm, that would be fun03:19
DarkMageZthe riaa would just release some fake torrents with commands to delete all mp3s03:20
DarkMageZthe problem tho would be since the voice software has to be trained to that particular persons voice. getting a voice to work against that persons voice profile would be alittle challenging03:21
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DarkMageZluckily ubuntu doesn't do any voice stuff that i know of :)03:25
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bddebianHeya gang03:26
TheMusoHeya bddebian.03:27
bddebianHi TheMuso03:28
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ajmitchhello bddebian 03:35
bddebianHeya ajmitch03:36
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ScottKSeems like a quiet night.04:52
bddebianNo kidding eh? :-)04:52
imbrandonrm debian/patches/sparc-asm.patch04:58
ScottKHerd 3 freeze is maybe a little demotivating....04:58
imbrandonScottK, its only for main ( and only for a day or two )04:59
imbrandonno reason to stop universe04:59
imbrandonor main for that matter04:59
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imbrandonjust have to wait to upload05:00
ScottKUnderstand, just trying to figure out why it's so quiet.05:00
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imbrandonlots of times its quite in here ;)05:00
imbrandonwho wants to figure out an archive problem?05:08
imbrandonlibgpod is in depwait for python-eyed3 but is built05:08
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ajmitchhey imbrandon 05:09
ajmitchwhat's up?05:09
imbrandonheya ajmitch 05:09
crimsunimbrandon: note eyed3's component.05:09
imbrandoni need the newer libgpod for amarok 1.4.5 that i'm packaging now05:10
imbrandonbut its waiting on python-eyed305:10
imbrandonfor some strange reason05:10
imbrandoncrimsun, huhu ?05:10
crimsuni.e., it will depwait until eyed3 completes its publisher run for main promotion.05:10
ajmitchwhich means until someone pushes it hard into main05:10
imbrandonouch 05:11
imbrandonhum ok05:11
ajmitchthe People Who Care have a list of these packages for this reason05:11
imbrandoni wonder if whomever uploaded did a MIR etc05:11
TheMusoHey imbrandon.05:11
ajmitchbut tollef has been a little busy with herd305:11
imbrandonheya TheMuso 05:11
TheMusoJust a bit.05:11
imbrandonman i come back from my packageing heiatus to full blown amarok only to be stoped in my tracks05:12
ajmitchthat's ok05:12
ajmitchyou can work on other stuff05:13
ajmitchget to it05:13
crimsunimbrandon: yes, it has been. Again, it's waiting for the promotion. [https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReportEyed3 ] 05:13
imbrandonrockin crimsun thanks05:13
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=== ajmitch will try & file sync requests for most of the remaining rc bug list after test building them
ajmitchonly got about 30 open sync requests from me at the moment05:15
TheMusoajmitch: I can do those as well if you want.05:15
imbrandoni just hated when the build said ...... 05:15
imbrandon = The following extra functionality will NOT be included:05:15
imbrandon =   - MP4/AAC Tag Write Support05:15
imbrandon =   - iPod Support (at least libgpod 0.4.2 is required)05:15
ajmitchfar more than 30 packages on the list :)05:15
imbrandonthat stoped me hehe05:15
bddebianGo ajmitch, go ajmitch05:15
ajmitchTheMuso: hm, maybe05:15
imbrandonmp4 is normal but no ipod is a no no05:15
ajmitchTheMuso: it means checking all the time to see if you've tested/requested sync, and I don't have a comments field yet to mark stuff about a package05:16
ajmitchI figured a quick way to add one, I might do that tomorrow05:16
imbrandonajmitch, to the merges list ?05:16
imbrandonor yours?05:16
ajmitchto my list05:16
ajmitchhow could I add stuff to the merge list? :)05:20
imbrandonpoke scott05:20
ajmitchyeah, very likely05:21
crimsungit checkout -b hda-fixes05:22
bddebianAnyone have a second to see what I did wrong with my gtk-gnutella on REVU?05:28
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zakamewould #29802 be fit for sru?07:08
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ScottKBug #29802?07:36
UbugtuMalone bug 29802 in mysql-admin "MySQL Administrator Locks when trying to do User Administration" [Unknown,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/2980207:36
Fujitsuzakame, I'd like it to happen.07:37
FujitsuHow big is the change?07:37
zakameFujitsu: I've yet to check07:38
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zakamecan wlassistant 0.5.6 still make it? (bug #76775)08:30
UbugtuMalone bug 76775 in wlassistant "package request: wlassistant 0.5.6" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7677508:30
StevenKIt isn't UVF yet08:32
zakameI'm also planning to add some run-parts support for /etc/network/if-{,pre-}{up,down}.d/08:32
lucasajmitch: TheMuso: I'll mail ubuntu-motu@ later today with a list of FTBFS and piuparts failures08:48
lucasI generated those during the night08:48
zakamelucas: cool work :)08:49
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=== Fujitsu applauds lucas. Very nice :)
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Fujitsulucas: Where do you get the computing power to do it!?08:54
zakameallee: still packaging wlassistant 0.5.6?08:54
zakameleft brain, or right?08:55
lucasFujitsu: at $DAY_JOB ;)08:55
alleezakame: not today.  I did not came very far, distracted by digikam errors08:55
FujitsuA whole lot of PCs, or one really big one?08:55
lucasI'm a phd student in lab that participates in a project called grid'500008:56
zakameallee: I'm gonna try my hand at it, and add some run-parts integration too08:56
lucasthe plan is to build an experimental computer grid, so there's ~2000 bi-opteron nodes available08:56
alleezakame: great.  Go on08:56
zakameI'd like to see it run /etc/network/ scripts08:56
FujitsuHm, I've got 200x AMD64 2800+ (and above) at my disposal.08:56
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lucasheh, where from ?08:57
alleezakame: can you reassign in launchpad?08:57
zakameallee: sure08:58
alleezakame: I'll merge back to debian.  So next time it's easier to merge (or no merge at all)08:58
zakamedebian's still at 0.5.5-1, I think a ping on them is needed :)08:59
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alleezakame: wlassistant is in the debian's alioth svn there I can commit ;)  09:00
zakameno need for reportbug then :)09:01
alleezakame: yeap, just ping me09:02
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zakamethanks :)09:05
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dholbachgood morning09:29
imbrandonmoins dholbach 09:29
dholbachhey imbrandon09:29
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imbrandonheya \sh11:39
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ajmitchlucas: thanks for the rebuild & piuparts run11:53
ajmitchhow long does it take to run it all?11:53
TheMusowhat is piuports?11:54
ajmitchtests installability/cleanliness of a package11:54
ajmitchinstalls in a chroot, sees what's left over afterwards11:55
ajmitchplus upgrading, etc11:55
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=== ajmitch spots a few errors there that'll be handled by syncs
ajmitchlucas: it'd be great if you could rerun this in a week or two11:59
=== TheMuso found one that looks completely incorrect according to lp.
TheMusoah but thats from edgy12:03
=== TheMuso examines speech-dispatcher.
ajmitchwhoever's handling syncs this week will hate me12:07
=== TheMuso guesses there will be a lot of python stuff in there
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lionelhi Adri200012:16
TheMusoHey Adri2000.12:16
imbrandonlol ajmitch , gonna give them a workout?12:16
ajmitchimbrandon: certainly12:17
\shhmm..I'm trying to build some of lukas list12:21
\shon amd64 to make it more difficult ,-)12:22
\shthe problem is for me, to determine from lucas' mail, which arch he used...12:23
TheMuso\sh: The build log has nothing?12:23
\shTheMuso: which build log? LPs build log e.g. for aqsis says: it's build on all archs12:24
\shso I wonder12:24
TheMusoThere are build logs of all the FTBFS packages.12:24
ajmitchit looks like he used x8612:24
TheMusoIf you follow the link that Lucus gave, there is an ubuntu-rebuild directory.12:24
\shwell, I don't trust those list...12:25
\shbtw: aqsis 12:25
\shDC-Build-Header: aqsis / Thu Feb 01 22:10:37 +0100 200712:25
\shE: /etc/schroot/schroot.conf: line 1: Invalid line: "12:25
\shCan't close schroot pipe at /usr/share/perl5/Sbuild/Chroot.pm line 125.12:25
\shDC-Build-Status: Failed 0.819075s12:25
ajmitchif you don't trust them, don't use them12:25
\shDC-Time-Estimation: 0.819075 versus expected 32000 (r/m: 39067.461374111 ; m: 0.819075)12:25
\shwonderful if you have broken buildds12:25
ajmitchheh, see apport's build log12:25
ajmitchthere are a few with broken chroots12:26
\shyes, that's why you can throw the result away...and lets trust lp when we rebuild our full archive12:26
ajmitchin about 6 weeks time12:26
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\shor use parallel pbuilder with distcc ,->12:27
ajmitchor more12:27
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\shshermann@LT420:~/test$ cat test.txt |awk '{print $6}'|grep -e "^1k"|wc -l12:31
ajmitchnot bad12:31
\sh198 packages you can throw away because of broken buildd12:31
\shshermann@LT420:~/test$ cat test.txt |awk '{print $6}'|grep -ve "^1k"|wc -l12:31
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\sh473 packages with something else12:32
ajmitchso nearly 1/3 failure just because of buildds12:32
=== TheMuso doesn't quite understand.
ajmitchTheMuso: 198 package builds failed due to broken sbuild/schroot config12:33
\shall logs with "1k" size are there, because of a broken sbuild config12:33
imbrandonls -l12:33
ajmitchimbrandon: better than your password12:33
TheMusoajmitch: Ah.12:33
Adri2000ajmitch: I have already requested a sync for openser12:35
ajmitchoh well12:35
ajmitchAdri2000: are you merging blam or not?12:35
Adri2000already uploaded12:35
\shthen we have some shit with apt-get12:35
=== TheMuso found a package that needs a build-dep changed.
TheMusoJust checking if it can be synced.12:36
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Kanohi, 915resolution should be updated01:03
Kanobecause i need it installable without intel chipset01:04
ajmitchfile a bug then01:04
KanoATI chipset detected.  915resolution only works with Intel 800/900 series graphic chipsets.01:04
Kanoinvoke-rc.d: initscript 915resolution, action "start" failed.01:04
Kanoapt-get install -f01:04
Kanoeven fails in circles...01:05
FujitsuI'm sure that's been in Feisty for some months.01:05
Kanoi use debian usually01:06
Kanoand there are not so many live cd creators out there it seems01:06
FujitsuIndeed, the last email notification for 915resolution I have is 0.5.2-9 in Debian and 0.5.2-9ubuntu1 in Ubuntu. The issue you mentioned was fixed a couple of versions ago, I'm sure.01:07
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Kanoinvoke-rc.d 915resolution XXX || exit $?01:13
Kanothat is serious problem01:13
Kanowell try to install that package on a system without intel gfx01:14
Nafallowhy would I even attempt to do that? :-)01:15
Kanoto have it presinstalled01:15
Kanobecause i enable it on the fly when needed01:16
Nafallowhy? :-)01:16
Nafallothere is a new xorg-driver which has modesetting in it...01:16
Kanoi check for i810 driver01:16
Kanoand is that default?01:16
NafalloI don't use it :-P01:16
Kanoxserver-xorg-video-i810-modesetting 01:16
Kanoyou mean that one01:17
FujitsuThat's the one.01:17
Kanowould be an idea01:18
Nafalloseriously... that's the future01:18
FujitsuKano: What version of 915resolution are you using?01:18
KanoFujitsu: maybe i just used a trick to install it before01:18
Kanonot sure right now01:18
Fujitsu915resolution (0.5.2-6) unstable; urgency=low01:18
Fujitsu  * Make sure that the init script exits gracefully in case the chipset01:18
Fujitsu    is not supported (Closes: #398077) Thanks to David Fox01:18
Kano0.5.2-9ubuntu1 and the debian one01:19
FujitsuMight it be advisable to stick the FTBFS list into a wiki page, with a comments/status field?01:23
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ajmitchand as \sh found out, about 1/3 of the failed build logs are useless01:24
FujitsuHave we got anything better, though?01:24
ajmitchnot yet, going to whip something up this weekend01:24
FujitsuAh, that will be good01:24
ajmitchsince I need to add comments to that rc bugs page01:24
TheMusoI like mdz's suggestion.01:24
FujitsuIt is surely not too hard to test-build a couple of hundred package.s01:25
ajmitchFujitsu: no it's not, I've done it overnight before01:25
FujitsuSo we just need to rebuild the failures, so we can get the proper list.01:25
Kanoit gives exit code 201:26
Kanoon error01:26
FujitsuHm, white's not around (he's the Debian maintainer, and is often here)01:26
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KanoFujitsu: the problem is, when you use dash you get error code 201:29
Kanoand when you use bash you get error code 001:29
FujitsuYou sure?01:29
FujitsuThat's rather strange.01:29
FujitsuWhat's the code that gives the error?01:29
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Kanoit quits before with dash01:30
Kano+ /usr/sbin/915resolution -l01:30
KanoATI chipset detected.  915resolution only works with Intel 800/900 series graphic chipsets.01:30
Kano+ bios_list=Intel 800/900 Series VBIOS Hack : version 0.5.201:30
Kanothats last with dash01:30
Kano+ /usr/sbin/915resolution -l01:31
Kano+ wrong_chipset01:31
Kanothats going on with bash01:31
FujitsuPlease report a bug against the Debian package.01:31
Fujitsu*I'm sure white will fix it soon.01:31
Kanothat problem is specific to dash as sh, so best fixed under ubuntu01:31
FujitsuBest fixed in Debian, to minimise deviance.01:31
geserI hope to get xmms2 resolved soon: it builds in a pbuilder, it builds in lucas' rebuild but not on the buildds :(01:31
FujitsuIt's still a bug in the script, not in Ubuntu.01:31
Kanofirst thats not allowed for dash01:32
Kanoand thats the error01:32
Kano >/dev/null 2>&101:33
Kanothats the correct way for dash01:33
Kano(and of course bash too)01:33
Kanowith that fix it installs correctly01:34
Kanoplease change01:35
FujitsuNo, it's best to fix it in Debian.01:35
Kanook, then main the debian maintainer...01:35
FujitsuIf he refuses, or doesn't respond, then I would do it.01:35
FujitsuBut we try to minimise deviance from Debian.01:35
Kanoa 1 line change...01:36
FujitsuEven so, Debian might like the bug fix.01:36
FujitsuAnd might not like us if we don't forward the change.01:36
Kanook, will mail him01:36
FujitsuBetter still, file a bug.01:36
FujitsuAnd thanks for picking this up, I don't think people regularly install it on non-Intel systems.01:36
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Kanoi am used for find bashisms already ;)01:40
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imbrandonwoot pbuilders done01:40
imbrandonx86 buildd is "useable" now01:40
imbrandonfor anyone that cares01:41
TheMusoimbrandon: Nice.01:41
imbrandonhehe yea TheMuso now you can try it out since your a ubuntu-dev ;)01:41
TheMusoimbrandon: Yup.01:41
TheMusoSo it our lp username?01:41
TheMusoie for me its TheMuso?01:41
imbrandonyea lp username , uses the sshkey from LP01:42
imbrandonand the ip is build.imbrandon.com01:42
ajmitchimbrandon: good01:42
ajmitchimbrandon: now I want to do something extra special there :)01:42
TheMusoI get a prompt01:42
imbrandonajmitch, rocking, go for it ajmitch 01:43
imbrandonbreezy dapper edgy feisty and sid are setup01:43
imbrandonTheMuso, one sec01:43
imbrandonlemme make sure your user is correct01:43
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imbrandonall lowercase01:44
imbrandondrwxr-xr-x 3 themuso         ubuntu-dev 160 2007-01-30 20:19 themuso01:44
TheMusoimbrandon: I'm in01:44
TheMusobut I was expecting that menu thingy.01:44
imbrandonyou should have access to pbuilder-$dist01:44
imbrandonyea the menu isnt done yet01:44
ajmitchimbrandon: the menu will be optional, I hope?01:45
imbrandoni siad useable not "finished" hehehe01:45
imbrandonajmitch, definately01:45
ajmitchI won't want to use it :)01:45
imbrandonme either01:45
ajmitchI want to be able to submit build jobs to your systems & get build logs emailed to me01:45
imbrandonbut i still wanna add it for those that do01:45
ajmitchI already have some tools for it here01:45
imbrandonajmitch, rockin01:45
TheMusoimbrandon: SO for those who'd rather the prompt, how will we access the systems we want?01:46
ajmitchyeah, if I can specify which arch to build on it'll be great :)01:46
imbrandonyou can , one sec, i'm on a call for work cant concentrate on both01:46
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=== ajmitch should probably sleep too
Fujitsuajmitch, you certainly should!01:51
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Nafallolocal mirror? :-)01:52
imbrandonNafallo, yea01:52
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Fujitsuimbrandon: What other archs are planned?01:53
imbrandonppc and x86_6401:53
imbrandonand past that it will have to be donated hardware01:54
imbrandonas for arm etc if its wanted01:54
TheMusoNight folks.01:54
imbrandongnight TheMuso 01:54
imbrandoni'll work on some psudo "docs" for it today sometime01:55
imbrandonit == the buildd's01:55
imbrandonnow that they are useable, maybe not finished but useable01:55
imbrandonthen when ajmitch does some majic on them will be really nice01:55
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ajmitchlike what? :)01:56
ajmitch'requestbuild foobar amd64' ?01:56
ajmitchwait a bit & get logs?01:56
FujitsuMmm, shiny.01:56
ajmitchshould be easy enough to do01:56
ajmitchhack requestsync, send gpg-signed mail to some email address01:57
ajmitchuse procmail to fire requests off to the buildds01:57
imbrandonyea , like "ssh $user@amd64:pbuiler-feisty build blah.dsc"01:57
ajmitchpbuilder --logfile, etc, all done01:57
imbrandonor soemthing behind the seen01:57
ajmitchyeah, that's one option01:57
ajmitchbut that doesn't allow for async operations very well01:58
imbrandonhrm true01:58
ajmitchor requesting builds of 100 packages at a time01:58
ajmitchwhich I would tend to do01:58
ajmitchFujitsu: sure, I'll look at the options :)01:58
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FujitsuThat is what wanna-build is designed for, is it not?01:58
ajmitchmore or less01:58
imbrandonnow i just need to add the ram to that box, finish up the menu01:59
imbrandonand pub some doc's /  instructions02:00
=== ajmitch might see if a build queue could be distributed a bit
siretarthi ajmitch 02:00
ajmitchsince I'm sure you'll want to get multiple machines02:00
siretarthuhu imbrandon 02:00
imbrandonheya siretart 02:00
ajmitchhey siretart 02:00
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imbrandonajmitch, yup yup02:00
ajmitchhow are you?02:00
siretartajmitch: I'm at work :)02:00
ajmitchheh :)02:00
siretartand you?02:01
imbrandonajmitch, yea the pan is to eventualy have 2x each minimum02:01
ajmitchsiretart: do you use wanna-build? 02:01
Fujitsuajmitch: Couldn't we have a global MOTU build queue, possibly distributed over multiple sites?02:01
ajmitchsiretart: about to go to bed02:01
ajmitchFujitsu: that's what I was thinking of, yes02:01
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siretartajmitch: not yet, but I had it on my list once. what do you want it for?02:01
ajmitchsiretart: MOTU build farm, imbrandon has machines up & running & accounts available02:01
ajmitchbut I want to go beyond that02:01
FujitsuA central wanna-build, with a million or two sbuilds running build would be great.02:01
siretartajmitch: care to announce your faboulus bug lists?02:01
siretartajmitch: I guess we'll get that for free with the personal package archives, no?02:02
Fujitsu*running builds02:02
ajmitchsiretart: I guess, I was just going through & filing sync requests while I could :)02:02
Fujitsusiretart, if they ever land, perhaps.02:02
azeemI've missed the beginning of the conversation, what are the builders needed for?02:02
imbrandonsiretart, yea but this is by the people for the people ;)02:02
imbrandonpluss open / free02:02
ajmitchsiretart: I want to add comments field to it before I announce it more02:02
siretartajmitch: ah, I see02:03
Fujitsuazeem, for those of us who don't wish to carry out lots of builds on our own, slow machines.02:03
FujitsuAnd stuff.02:03
FujitsuOr on other archs.02:03
imbrandonazeem, i did it firstly to give MOTU access to other arches like the debian porter machines02:03
siretartFujitsu: so something like debian/experimental for ubuntu/universe?02:03
Fujitsusiretart, pardon?02:03
siretartFujitsu: in debian, we have a 'special' upload target called 'experimental', which is a seperate dak suite from 'unstable'02:04
siretartFujitsu: DDs can upload there and have their package built on a special buildd network02:04
FujitsuBut that's also then published.02:04
siretarton the official mirror network. right02:04
azeemah, ok02:04
ajmitchhi azeem 02:05
StevenKAh. More deception about the experimental buildds02:05
FujitsuStevenK: What deception would this be?02:05
StevenKFujitsu: Note the ":-P"02:05
ajmitchStevenK, full of bitterness & rage :)02:05
azeemyou sound like Barry02:05
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StevenKMe? Sadly, yes02:06
imbrandonazeem, basicly what it is right now is i have 3 boxes in a DC i work at behind the IP build.imbrandon.com that sync accounts from LP for ubuntu-{,-core}-dev and their sshkeys , with pbuilders setup for all current ubuntu targets , to give all MOTU's access 02:06
imbrandonbut ajmitch ( and me ) have dreams about makin it bigger02:07
=== ajmitch more has plans for making it easier
imbrandonkinda akin to the debian porter boxen atm02:07
StevenKWhich arches?02:07
imbrandonppc amd64 x8602:07
ajmitchimbrandon: will there be chroots available for testing stuff?02:07
StevenKWhere's the SPARC? :-P02:07
imbrandonajmitch, other than pbuilder-$dist login ?02:08
Fujitsuajmitch, pbuilder-[release] 02:08
imbrandonStevenK, send me a sparc and i'll rack it02:08
FujitsuDamn, I'm somewhat too tired to type.02:08
FujitsuGoodnight, for real this time!02:08
StevenK% ssh root@e uname -m02:08
imbrandongnight Fujitsu 02:08
StevenKAnd it's staying here02:08
NafalloI can't delete from nafallo@aurora:/storage/pbuilders/feisty/result ;-)02:09
imbrandonNafallo, ahh yea i probably have to play with the dir perms a bit02:09
imbrandoni'll fix that up here in a few02:09
ajmitchimbrandon: yes, easier than that02:09
Nafalloor make a cron that cleans it out automatically in cron.daily or something :-P02:09
ajmitchimbrandon: even a simple script on your system to start pbuilder & mail results would be better for me02:10
imbrandonNafallo, yea that too 02:10
StevenKimbrandon: I'd suggest 1775 for /pbuilders/*/result02:10
StevenKajmitch: pdebuild | tee file && mail file02:10
ajmitchStevenK: whatever works, I don't care :)02:10
ajmitchplus I hate using pdebuild02:11
ajmitchtoo many screwed up packages with bad clean: targets02:11
StevenKYeah, well02:11
imbrandondone and done02:12
StevenKOh drat, my log cleaner didn't work for my mirror02:12
ajmitchanyway, I have to go & sleep as well02:12
imbrandongnight ajmitch 02:12
ajmitchnight all02:12
StevenKAh, it did, it just cleans up 2 months ago02:13
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imbrandontime to make some coffee02:14
StevenKAhhh, it does use rm -v, it just doesn't log it. Silly thing.02:14
siretartimbrandon: cool! thanks for your offer!02:15
imbrandonsiretart, np ;) its been in the works since before UDS02:16
imbrandonjust now getting asrround to makin it happen02:16
StevenKimbrandon: I'm curious how beefy the machines are.02:17
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StevenKIf it's scarily faster than my 3GHz amd64, I'd consider it02:17
imbrandonthe x86 is a model name      : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.66GHz with 256mb ram ( 2gb ready to put in just havent been to the DC yet to do it )02:17
imbrandonthe x86_64 is a pent-d 3ghz with 4gb ddr202:18
StevenKYou lose. :-P02:18
imbrandonand the ppc is a 800mhz ppc with 640mb ram02:18
imbrandonthe x86_64 is dual core also02:18
=== StevenK ponders using the ppc for nefarious purposes
StevenKLike Xnest and installing ubuntu-desktop02:19
StevenKIt's for a good purpose, honest. :-P02:19
StevenKDoes the ssh config allow X11 forwarding?02:19
imbrandonas of this moment yes, unless it gets abused02:20
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StevenKI'm not planning on abusing it.02:20
imbrandonhehe i know02:20
imbrandonbut its good for testing xapps02:20
imbrandonso i left it on02:20
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StevenKHrm. Can I jump directly to the ppc?02:26
imbrandonno its behind nat ( thus the pdmenu i was makin ) but the ppc and 64 are off for the next few hours02:28
imbrandoni havent put the new switch in02:28
imbrandonbut i am doing that today02:29
StevenKGah, I wanted to use the ppc. :-)02:29
imbrandonhehe give me a few hours ( by the time you wake up )02:29
imbrandonand it will be up02:29
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imbrandonactualy hrm02:34
imbrandoni could probably put 2 nics in the webserver and then just run ssh on diffrent ports for the ppc etc02:34
imbrandonthen you would be able to jump right to them if wished02:34
StevenKYou don't need to run it on different ports, but DNAT from the webserver02:35
imbrandonDNAT /02:35
StevenKBeg your hosting provider for /29. :-P02:35
StevenKDestination Network Addressing Translation02:36
siretartimbrandon: if you are really interested in hosting sparcs, I can ask here in the departement, if there is an old one available. however, it won't be fast!02:36
StevenKsiretart: I was yanking imbrandon's chain. :-)02:36
imbrandonsiretart, i dont mind about speed at all, it would be nice02:36
imbrandonspecialy if it was rackable02:36
siretartI doubt we have any 19" sparcs02:36
imbrandonsince it is a suported arch02:36
imbrandonsiretart, hehe nice but not nessesary02:37
imbrandoni have rack shelfs02:37
StevenKMost lowend sparcs aren't rackable02:37
StevenKHeh heh, "lowend"02:37
siretartwere do you live? (where would I need to ship it to?)02:37
imbrandonkansas city , missouri02:37
StevenKRedneck County02:37
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imbrandondead center of the USA02:38
siretartsending sparcs from europe to germany, heh 02:38
imbrandonouch, your in EU ?02:38
siretartyepp, germany more specifically02:38
imbrandonwow , yea lemme see about some thing localy 02:39
siretarthow do you manage your machines? do you use cfengine or puppet or something?02:39
imbrandonummm no02:39
imbrandonmine or company wise?02:39
StevenKI'm guessing "Manually"02:39
siretartno, I don't think it makes sense to ship it that far. I'd better see if I can host it somewhere here02:39
siretarta friend did offer a spare ultra 30 to ubuntu, which was used as buildd for universe for I think half a year02:40
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StevenKimbrandon: To be honest though, ask about a /29, at our datacentre, it didn't end up costing us much more02:40
siretartthen it became mandatory for buildds to be in the canonical datacentre, then we shut the box down02:40
imbrandoni had an ultra 5 ( 200mhz ) a few months ago, i should have kept it02:40
siretartperhaps I can ask joerg to repower it02:41
imbrandonStevenK, its all free ( for me anyhow ) but yea 02:41
StevenKUltra 5's didn't hit 200MHz, if I recall02:41
siretartbut I don't think I have time and interest to admin yet another box02:41
imbrandoni could prorbhavbly get a class c if i whigned enough02:41
StevenKOr was it 300?02:41
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imbrandonyea the ultra 5's had 2 and 400 mhz iirc02:41
imbrandonthat was top end02:42
StevenKI think there was one in the middle, too02:42
siretartimbrandon: if you want to do it properly, we perhaps would need to think about having a managment infrastructure, involving ldap, kerb and cfengine02:42
StevenKThe processor ran at 270, 300, 333, 360 or 400 MHz, depending on model.02:42
StevenKWikipedia to the rescue02:42
imbrandonsiretart, yea i'm actualy writing /wrote some custom scripts to import LP accounts just to keep it manageable02:43
imbrandonas far as accounts02:43
imbrandonand sshkeys etc02:43
imbrandonStevenK, hehe02:43
siretartimbrandon: cfengine scripts?02:43
imbrandonbash , lol02:44
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siretarthm. I see02:44
Kanofound next broken package02:44
KanoSetting up cfv (1.18.1-0ubuntu2) ...02:44
Kano/usr/bin/python: can't open file '/usr/lib/python/compileall.py': [Errno 2]  No such file or directory02:44
Kanodpkg: error processing cfv (--configure):02:44
Kano subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 202:44
KanoErrors were encountered while processing:02:44
Kano cfv02:44
StevenKAh ha02:45
StevenKKano: I can look at uploading a fixed package nowish / in the morning, if you like?02:46
imbrandonsiretart, definately, i'm not a management expert basicly i put the hardware in the rack and supply the bandwidth etc heheh02:46
imbrandonbut we're working on it as we go ;)02:46
imbrandontoday was the first "public" useage02:46
imbrandon( and ajmitch as admin on the box too )02:46
Kanoit is very crazy, in theory that file is not even availble in debian...02:46
Kanoat that position02:47
StevenKKano: Yes, it needs to be updated to the new Python policy02:47
Kanodebian/postinst:            /usr/bin/$PYTHON -O /usr/lib/python$PV/compileall.py -q $i02:47
Kanodebian/postinst:            /usr/bin/$PYTHON /usr/lib/python$PV/compileall.py -q $i02:47
Kanobecause a $PV var is used...02:47
KanoPV=`dpkg --listfiles $PACKAGE | sed -n -e '/^\/usr\/lib\/python.*\//{02:48
Kano  s,/usr/lib/python\([0-9] [0-9.] *\)/.*,\1,p02:48
Kano  q02:48
StevenKKano: Yes, that's the old way.02:48
Kanostupid hack02:48
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StevenKKano: Test building a fixed package02:51
siretartimbrandon: :)02:51
Kanothe --listfiles is a joke02:51
Kanoas there is no /usr/lib/python in cfv02:52
Kanoand package must be cfv02:52
StevenKKano: I'm sure it was an oversight02:52
StevenKKano: Fixed package uploaded, it will take a little while to hit the archive.02:54
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Kanoalso why has the debian package python-dev as build dep and the ubuntu one not02:55
StevenKKano: Thanks for giving me a bug to fix. :-)02:55
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StevenKKano: Because the Debian one hasn't been changed to the new Python policy, I'm guessing.02:56
imbrandonok guys i'm heading home02:56
Kanowhere can i test your fixed package?02:57
imbrandonsee yall in a few02:57
StevenKKano: I can put it on the web, if you like02:57
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StevenKKano: To be honest, if you wait around a day, it should hit the archive automatically02:58
Kanoi want it now02:59
Kanodo you really think i want a day when i need a package?02:59
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StevenKKano: http://wedontsleep.org/~steven/test/cfv_1.18.1-0ubuntu3_all.deb03:00
Kanoi really like cfv03:01
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lucasajmitch: I can re-run them in a few weeks, yes03:09
lucas\sh: i386 chroot on amd6403:09
lucasI think it's in the mail03:09
lucasgeser: [xmms2]  I looked at it a while ago (since I uploaded it to edgy), but couldn't understand why it failed, so I filed a bug and gave up.03:10
geserlucas: I'm now in a similar situation. It builds fine in a pbuilder and during your rebuild but failed on the buildds claiming it couldn't find a c compiler. I hope to get a a buildd admin to look at it03:13
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crimsuntsmithe: asoundconf-gtk uploaded, archived.03:30
Q-FUNKwhat nickname does till kampetter use here?03:34
crimsuntkamppeter in -devel.03:34
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bddebianHeya gang03:38
Q-FUNKcrimsun: thanks03:41
geserhi bddebian 03:43
bddebianHeya geser03:43
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bddebianOK, where the heck is the build queue these days?03:48
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bddebiancrimsun: Thx.  I'm a little confused though.  I got three accepted mails this morning but the source packages still don't show up on LP?03:53
crimsun09:27 < Mithrandir> pitti: yes and no, not yet.  (I'll do it soonish, but 03:53
crimsun                    something has locked the distrorelease table so we can't 03:53
crimsun                    flip feisty back to development)03:53
bddebianAm I supposed to be able to make sense of that? :-)03:54
crimsunapologies for formatting.03:56
crimsunsource packages still require a manual shove03:57
crimsun"something has locked the distrorelease table so we can't flip feisty back to development" [for cron'ed processing] 03:57
bddebianAh, OK thx03:58
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\shlucas:yepp...read it....could you check the sbuild/chroot errors? 148 or 149 packages are on the list, but are building 04:02
gnomefreakcan i use any svn to build a package for ubuntu?04:06
crimsunerr, clarify?04:06
gnomefreaklike there is a FC6 svn can i use that to build a ubuntu package?04:07
crimsunyou can do anything you want for yourself04:07
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Q-FUNKbug 8267404:13
UbugtuMalone bug 82674 in cups-pdf "add/remove the PDF printer in CUPS at installation/removal time" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8267404:13
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sistpotyhi folks04:47
bddebianHeya sistpoty04:49
sistpotyhi bddebian04:49
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bigonHi, does anyone know what happened with pam-keyring? The package seems to have been sync but there is no infomations on the lp05:03
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sistpotybigon: maybe it's still in the new queue?05:09
bigonsistpoty: maybe, but the bugreport has been closed last Monday05:10
sistpotybigon: yep, it's still in the new-queue: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+queue?start=2005:11
Adri2000should we keep the ubuntu changelog entries for a fakesync (because of different orig.tar.gz)?05:11
bigonsistpoty: thanks :)05:12
sistpotyAdri2000: I guess you can delete them. if it's identical to the debian package the changelog entries might just lead to confusion for the next merge05:12
sistpotybigon: np05:13
Adri2000sistpoty: ok05:14
Adri2000and fakesync means I just upload .dsc and .diff.gz, so we keep the ubuntu orig.tar.gz?05:14
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sistpotyAdri2000: yes05:19
sistpotyAdri2000: as you can only change the orig.tar.gz if it's a differnt upstream version05:20
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bddebianUhm, if the package uses python-central but does this in rules:  export PYTHON=/usr/bin/python2.405:27
bddebian  doesn't it defeat the purpose?05:27
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sistpotybddebian: not quite sure, but it doesn't make much sense to me05:30
\shok...leaving office for cologne...05:31
\shcu 05:31
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\shor have a nice weekend :)05:31
bddebianYou too \sh_away05:31
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Adri2000argh, my fake sync got rejected :(05:42
Adri2000sistpoty: still here?05:42
sistpotyAdri2000: yes05:42
sistpotyAdri2000: what did you get? md5 mismatch of orig.tar.gz?05:43
Adri2000I didn't upload the orig.tar.gz05:43
sistpotyAdri2000: well, you'll need to exchange the orig.tar.gz with the ubuntu one and then build the source package05:44
sistpotyAdri2000: might involve changing the .dsc by hand in case dpkg-buildpackage makes trouble05:44
Adri2000build the source package using the ubuntu orig.tar.gz instead of the debian one, right?05:46
sistpotyAdri2000: exactly05:46
Adri2000what I don't understand is "File glob2_0.8.21.orig.tar.gz mentioned in the changes has a checksum mismatch.", it is not mentionned in the .changes05:47
sistpotyAdri2000: it's mentioned in the .dsc05:47
Adri2000ah, yes, ok05:47
bddebianGah -devel is getting cranky :-)05:49
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Adri2000Accepted glob2 0.8.21-4build1 (source), yay!06:06
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dholbachgood night everybody - have a nice WE!07:58
Luting'night dholbach 07:58
dholbachbye Lutin07:58
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ajmitchmorning all08:37
bddebianHeya ajmitch08:37
ScottKGood morning.08:39
siretartgrr, why I keep missing sistpoty...08:40
ajmitchsiretart: different timezones :)08:40
siretartajmitch: hrhr ;)08:40
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bddebianhuhu siretart08:46
bddebianDamn, I think I'm losing another laptop HD :-(08:48
siretarthey bddebian 08:49
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sistpotyhuhu siretart09:09
sistpotyhi ajmitch09:10
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siretarthey sistpoty!09:18
sistpotyhi siretart, how are you?09:18
siretartsistpoty: you're cheating with just changing your nick! ;)09:18
siretartsistpoty: great, shall I give you a phone call?09:18
sistpotysiretart: I'm innocent... was the 24h disconnet ;)09:18
sistpotysiretart: sure09:19
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givr1heya motu, is there somebody with some time to upload http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4249 ?09:24
givr1this is the latest version of ntfs-3g with *a lot* of bug fixes09:24
bddebianJust upload eh, no reviews? :)09:27
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givr1bddebian: hum, i thought it wasn't needed for package already reviewed...09:29
givr1might be wrong09:29
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Adri2000at least the motu who uploads it should review it09:30
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givr1Adri2000: ok, so i was wrong ;)09:31
bddebian -> Considering  libfuse-dev (>= 2.6)09:32
bddebian      Tried versions: 2.5.3-4.1ubuntu309:32
bddebian   -> Does not satisfy version, not trying09:32
bddebianE: Could not satisfy build-dependency.09:32
bddebianE: pbuilder-satisfydepends failed.09:32
givr1bddebian: hum, you need ultra up to date feisty, fuse 2.6.2 has been just merge in feisty09:33
bddebiangivr1: Well it still ain't there yet09:37
givr1bddebian: hum, i saw it was, sorry :(09:39
bddebianNo worries09:41
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TheMusoHey MOTUs.09:53
ajmitchhi MOTU09:53
Adri2000hi MOTUs and MOTU09:53
bddebianHeya TheMuso09:54
zulright im going home..09:55
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bddebianLutin: Did kayali get rejected again??10:21
Lutinbddebian: indeed10:21
bddebianFor what?10:21
Lutinpitti rejected it because I wans't including the adobe license file in the fonts dir10:22
bddebianAhh, OK10:22
Lutin(was in debian/copyright though, but apparently it wasn't enough ;) =10:22
bddebianIs crimsun away does anyone know?10:33
TheMusobddebian: Did you check his whois/10:34
Nafallohis wii :-)10:34
TheMusoWell according to that, he is.10:35
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gnomefreakanyone know off hand what version of scribus debian unstable uses?10:37
gnomefreakim uploading to my site but im not good at official building :(10:38
gnomefreakits "stable" from what they say10:38
gnomefreakwould i need a spec to get the newest version in feisty?10:40
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bddebiangnomefreak: Nope, build it and put it on REVU10:41
gnomefreakbddebian: i will see if i can build it ill work on it this weekend10:42
gnomefreakproblem being i would have to make all the files by hand (rules,copyright,control) so on10:42
bddebianI wouldn't.  I would copy the /debian dir from the latest Debian version and start from there10:43
gnomefreakah ok i will see what i can do this weekend than10:43
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gnomefreakbddebian: doesnt look like i need to do it scribus-ng in ubuntu adn in debian. i didnt think to look for scribus-ng11:07
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bddebiangnomefreak: Ah, sorry11:09
gnomefreakits ok :)11:09
bddebianLater gang11:12
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nedkoTheMuso: any progress with fpconst package?11:16
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BrendanMHello, I was told to ask in here for a package to be added to Ubuntu?11:17
BrendanMI am trying to get this software called Neuron to work. It is available here: http://www.neuron.yale.edu/neuron/install/install.html   it is a specialized scientific program for simulating neurons, but it's very widely used among neuroscientists/students11:19
BrendanMI tried installing the Debian package there, but it didn't work on my system11:19
BrendanMit keeps giving me an error that says "error while loading shared libraries: libIVhines.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"11:20
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BrendanMSo can I request a rebuild for Ubuntu?11:27
ScottKBrendanM: Neither Debian nor Ubuntu have a package with that library in it.  You'll need to find out what is supposed to provide it.11:27
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BrendanMWhen I searched for that library, it came up with RPM stuff11:27
BrendanMso I don't know if maybe that debian package was converted from an rpm and that's why it's asking for it or what11:28
ScottKThe problem is I don't know what IT is...11:29
ScottKIf you found RPM stuff, what was the name of the library and where does it's source come from?11:29
BrendanMThe name of the library is "libIVhines.so.3" I think11:38
BrendanMI found this: http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=libIVhines.so.3()(64bit)11:38
BrendanMit comes from something called InterViews, apparently11:39
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BrendanMHey! I got it working! Yay! Now I can ..... do my homework...11:46
BrendanMThe trick was to install another debian package from the same site for InterViews. I don't know why it wasn't listed as a dependency11:47
ScottKWhat did you do?11:47
BrendanMI still think this is something that would be good to include in the repositories. Especially for Scibuntu.11:47
ScottKLooks like it's called ivtools in Debian and Ubuntu. http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=ivtools&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all11:49
gnomefreakwhat can be done if there is no package in debian for one im building? all i need is the 4 or so files rules,control,ect...11:49
gnomefreakthats a question :(11:49
ScottKBrendanM: There is a MOTU Science team that you might want to discuss this with.  https://launchpad.net/~motuscience11:50
BrendanMyeah, apparently the package I installed from here: http://www.scientificcomputing.net/debian/packages/neuron/ which is iv_17-1_i386.deb, is a specially modified version of InterViews to work with Neuron11:50
ScottKgnomefreak: Make a package?11:50
ScottKThat's what I had to do.11:50
BrendanMthanks, I might do that11:50
gnomefreaklooking on the ubuntu packaging guide to see if they tell you how11:51
ScottKThis is my package for one little tine Perl library I needed: https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+source/libnet-dns-resolver-programmable-perl11:51
sistpotylucas: for the list of binary packages: how about grep Binary Sources | cut -d' ' -f 2- | sed -e's/,/\n/g' | sed -e's/ //g'11:53
sistpotylucas: with Sources being the extracted sources.gz file11:53
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gesersistpoty: you can replace the two sed with one: ... | sed -e 's/,/\n/g' -e's/ //g'12:03
sistpotygeser: ah, nice12:03
geseror even better: sed -e 's/, /\n/g'12:04
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