[12:13] hi folks === Tonio_ [n=tonio@28.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:16] hi sistpoty [12:16] hi coNP [12:17] Hi sistpoty. [12:17] hi ScottK [12:17] sistpoty: I tried out what you suggested, concerning bug 82436, however recommends is not enough, because recommended packages are not installed by default (neither by gnome-app-install) [12:17] Malone bug 82436 in wesnoth "wesnoth-all meta-package request (for gnome-app-install)" [Unknown,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82436 === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:18] coNP: recommends still aren't installed by default? I though this spec would have been implemented some time ago :/ === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp28-178.lns1.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:20] not by apt-get nor gnome-app-installer [12:20] coNP: however I still think recommends is the saner way than to add a meta-package... [12:21] sistpoty: sure, but what to do if I want that packages to be installed [12:24] coNP: the package manager *should* provide a mechanism for the recommends, so this would then be not a bug of wesnoth === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:26] lol, now this is a funny (C) entry: Copyright (C) 2001 Queen of England [12:31] sistpoty: lol === rexbron [n=rexbron@complex1-372-008.resnet.yorku.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rexbron [n=rexbron@complex1-372-008.resnet.yorku.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RedKrieg [n=RedKrieg@ip68-230-209-186.rd.hr.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === co-NP [n=conp@pool-00e4f.externet.hu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chrisj [n=tortoise@91.84.121.23] has joined #ubuntu-motu === coNP [n=conp@pool-001f6.externet.hu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === coNP2 [n=conp@pool-01ec4.externet.hu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rexbron_ [n=rexbron@complex1-372-008.resnet.yorku.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@adsl-221-77-18.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RedKrieg [n=RedKrieg@ip68-230-209-186.rd.hr.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:09] gar, I hate LP polls system... [01:10] everyone does [01:10] I suppose we'd better start voting for the council [01:10] already done :) === ajmitch hasn't voted yet :) [01:13] hurry up, only 13 days left ! [01:14] bah === ajmitch wonders who to decline === TheMuso goes to vote. [01:14] oh, andrew mitchell === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-24-0-153-89.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch declines him [01:15] hehe [01:15] Hah. [01:15] hahaha === Fujitsu wonders when the new-upstream-version frenzy will start... I'm surprised it hasn't already. === ajmitch shrugs [01:16] people still have a couple of days [01:16] Almost a week, in fact. [01:16] it shouldn't start until about 2 hours before UVF [01:16] Hahaha [01:17] or 2 hours after UVF. :-) [01:17] more likely === chrisj [n=tortoise@91.84.121.23] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:17] heh [01:17] crimsun: you're ready & willing to stand for the council? [01:17] must be an imposter [01:18] I feared as much [01:19] Fujitsu: I've got a packaging marathon planned this weekend. :-) [01:20] what's that? running ~42 kms with a laptop while packaging? [01:20] Toadstool: it's easier if you use something like one of those new nokia devices [01:20] that's cheating :) [01:21] Toadstool: Close. We've got a 24 hour free software hacking session at the university. I'm going to spend my time catching up on packaging. [01:21] A laptop? That's crazy! You need to carry a desktop! === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:21] with a 21" CRT? [01:21] Fujitsu: ssh [01:21] Toadstool, yep. [01:21] http://www.digitalfog.com/gallery/PortableComputer.jpg [01:22] That's a classic. :-) [01:22] shame it refuses direct links [01:22] ajmitch: Really? http://www.digitalfog.com/gallery/portablecomputer.htm [01:22] Better? [01:22] Gah! [01:23] What a great beryl version number: [01:23] 0.1.9999.1~0beryl1 [01:23] (That's 0.2.0rc1) [01:23] Yeah, i don't get that either. They're actually using ~'s, so why not 0.2~rc1? [01:24] Exactly what I thought. [01:24] If they didn't know about ~, it might be reasonable. [01:25] I scolded Trevino, but he didn't understand 0.2~rc1-0ubuntu1, apparently. [01:25] Kids.. [01:25] :-) === Fujitsu stomps on shawarma a bit. [01:26] heh === ajmitch wonders if dpkg-deb should have some mandatory skill questions to unlock it [01:27] Hah. [01:28] crimsun: Thanks for your help with the aoss stuff, by the way. I got it working. === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:30] Hobbsee!! [01:31] crimsun: I have now succesfully reencoded one of those nasty DRM-infested WMA things to ogg by way of VirtualBox, WinXP, ALSA/OSS emulation, the alsa file plugin, mplayer and oggenc. Wicked! [01:32] ajmitch!!! [01:32] I had to install WinXP to do it, but I got rid of the crappy DRM stuff. I can't really figure out the karma in that.. [01:33] shawarma: :-) [01:35] hmm, does it make sense to be able to approve or disapprove $self in those polls? === shawarma wanders off to get a few hours of sleep. [01:36] Goodnight, guys! [01:36] and Hobsee. [01:36] :-) [01:36] 'night [01:38] hey shawarma. night! [01:38] crimsun: in which polls? [01:39] Hobbsee: Read ubuntu-motu@. [01:40] crimsun: the poll info is arbitrary, not tied to a person [01:40] TheMuso: the MOTU council one? [01:40] they just happen to have names [01:40] Hobbsee: Yep. === giskard [n=giskard@213-140-22-74.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:46] It would be better if it/c === ajmitch doesn't understand why the votes we cast are protected by these top s3kr3t keys [01:46] It would be better if it had more election style polls. [01:46] sure [01:46] haha [01:46] polls on LP suck [01:46] ajmitch, so it can't possibly be traced to you. [01:46] Fujitsu: Point. [01:47] Fujitsu: that doesn't explain why I need to enter some random string to get access to my votes again [01:47] classic quote [01:47] 23:57 < sabdfl> oh for heavens sake! [01:47] 23:57 < sabdfl> the poll system is driving *me* nuts [01:47] ajmitch, yes it does. [01:47] Heheh, yeah. [01:47] ajmitch, how else can it track the votes? [01:48] ajmitch: LP seems to only know you voted but not how [01:48] geser, of course. That's how it [01:48] *it's secret. [01:48] it can track how we voted, just not show it anywhere [01:48] But then the LP people can see it. [01:48] big deal :) === chrisj [n=tortoise@91.84.121.23] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:51] Fujitsu: if the LP people can see how each motu voted why this secret keys? [01:51] geser, the point is, with the secret keys they /can't/ see it. [01:51] That's the whole point. [01:52] Without them (ie. a public or semi-secret poll) they can. === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:58] crimsun: the upload of php4-yaz for dapper-updates you sponsored in sep 2006 got rejected now (bug 58564) [01:58] Malone bug 58564 in php4-yaz "php4-yaz won't install (broken dependency)" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58564 === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:00] whats the url again for the voting? [02:02] zul: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-dev/+polls [02:05] geser: what was the rationale? [02:05] there was none in that e-mail [02:06] hmm. I presume it's because we didn't go through dapper-proposed. [02:07] did it exist in sep 2006 already? [02:07] no idea, but let's do it now. [02:08] we likely didn't have motu-sru in sept '06 === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-95-233.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-95-233.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [02:10] I'd open a sru bug for it but I don't have a dapper system (or chroot) to test the package === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-95-233.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lukaswayne9 [n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sistpoty is off to bed now [02:19] gn8 everyone [02:19] slomo: HAL issue should be fixed now [http://hg-mirror.alsa-project.org/alsa-kernel?cs=fc216dd0eb92 ] [02:27] crimsun: good luck going for motu-council [02:28] thanks [02:29] there should be like a debate or something....ooh...attack ads [02:29] sure [02:29] what do you want people to debate? [02:29] and I suppose you want election speeches & all [02:29] damn straight === ajmitch kindly declines the nomination [02:30] wohoo.. === RedKrieg [n=RedKrieg@ip68-230-209-186.rd.hr.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:54] haha === sponix [n=family@68.51.218.205] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pochu [n=pochu@179.Red-88-7-169.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pochu [n=pochu@179.Red-88-7-169.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:14] This is OT, but an interesting vector for security issues that I wouldn't have thought of .. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6320865.stm - voice commands. [03:19] hmm, that would be fun [03:20] the riaa would just release some fake torrents with commands to delete all mp3s [03:21] the problem tho would be since the voice software has to be trained to that particular persons voice. getting a voice to work against that persons voice profile would be alittle challenging === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:25] luckily ubuntu doesn't do any voice stuff that i know of :) === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:26] Heya gang [03:27] Heya bddebian. [03:28] Hi TheMuso === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:35] hello bddebian [03:36] Heya ajmitch === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdong [n=jdong@TANG-SIX-FIFTY.MIT.EDU] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mikhail^ [n=dean@124.106.241.222] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mayday_jay [n=mayday_j@maydayjay.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lfittl [n=lfittl@83.64.250.38] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:52] Seems like a quiet night. [04:52] No kidding eh? :-) [04:58] scarry [04:58] rm debian/patches/sparc-asm.patch [04:58] err [04:58] Herd 3 freeze is maybe a little demotivating.... [04:59] ScottK, its only for main ( and only for a day or two ) [04:59] no reason to stop universe [04:59] or main for that matter === imbrandon is working on a main package atm [05:00] just have to wait to upload [05:00] Understand, just trying to figure out why it's so quiet. === ScottK is busy buying my wife a new cel phone at the moment. [05:00] lots of times its quite in here ;) [05:08] hrm [05:08] who wants to figure out an archive problem? [05:08] heh [05:08] libgpod is in depwait for python-eyed3 but is built === imbrandon is puizzled [05:09] puzzled* [05:09] hey imbrandon [05:09] what's up? [05:09] heya ajmitch [05:09] imbrandon: note eyed3's component. [05:10] i need the newer libgpod for amarok 1.4.5 that i'm packaging now [05:10] but its waiting on python-eyed3 [05:10] for some strange reason [05:10] crimsun, huhu ? [05:10] i.e., it will depwait until eyed3 completes its publisher run for main promotion. [05:10] which means until someone pushes it hard into main [05:11] ouch [05:11] hum ok [05:11] the People Who Care have a list of these packages for this reason [05:11] i wonder if whomever uploaded did a MIR etc [05:11] Hey imbrandon. [05:11] but tollef has been a little busy with herd3 [05:11] heya TheMuso [05:11] Just a bit. [05:12] understandable [05:12] man i come back from my packageing heiatus to full blown amarok only to be stoped in my tracks [05:12] lol [05:12] that's ok [05:13] you can work on other stuff [05:13] get to it [05:13] true [05:13] imbrandon: yes, it has been. Again, it's waiting for the promotion. [https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReportEyed3 ] [05:13] rockin crimsun thanks === TheMuso hits up merges.ubuntu.com === ajmitch will try & file sync requests for most of the remaining rc bug list after test building them [05:15] only got about 30 open sync requests from me at the moment [05:15] ajmitch: I can do those as well if you want. [05:15] i just hated when the build said ...... [05:15] = The following extra functionality will NOT be included: [05:15] = - MP4/AAC Tag Write Support [05:15] = - iPod Support (at least libgpod 0.4.2 is required) [05:15] far more than 30 packages on the list :) [05:15] that stoped me hehe [05:15] Go ajmitch, go ajmitch [05:15] TheMuso: hm, maybe [05:15] mp4 is normal but no ipod is a no no [05:16] TheMuso: it means checking all the time to see if you've tested/requested sync, and I don't have a comments field yet to mark stuff about a package [05:16] right [05:16] I figured a quick way to add one, I might do that tomorrow [05:16] ajmitch, to the merges list ? [05:16] or yours? [05:16] to my list [05:16] ahh [05:20] how could I add stuff to the merge list? :) [05:20] poke scott [05:20] hehe [05:21] yeah, very likely [05:22] git checkout -b hda-fixes [05:22] oops [05:28] Anyone have a second to see what I did wrong with my gtk-gnutella on REVU? === Weems [n=frodo@unaffiliated/weems] has joined #ubuntu-motu === anibal [n=anibal@debian/developer/anibal] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rexbron_ [n=rexbron@complex1-372-008.resnet.yorku.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rexbron [n=rexbron@complex1-372-008.resnet.yorku.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fdoving [n=frode@edge.lnix.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Neonightmare [n=neonight@69-27.0-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Neonightmare [n=neonight@69-27.0-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === ademan [n=dan@h-67-101-215-128.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:08] would #29802 be fit for sru? === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-036-075.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:36] Bug #29802? [07:36] Malone bug 29802 in mysql-admin "MySQL Administrator Locks when trying to do User Administration" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29802 [07:37] zakame, I'd like it to happen. [07:37] How big is the change? [07:38] Fujitsu: I've yet to check === jaldhar_ [n=jaldhar@c-24-0-153-89.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Weems [n=frodo@unaffiliated/weems] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === geser [n=michael@ubuntu/member/geser] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@1-234.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:30] can wlassistant 0.5.6 still make it? (bug #76775) [08:30] Malone bug 76775 in wlassistant "package request: wlassistant 0.5.6" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76775 [08:32] It isn't UVF yet [08:32] I'm also planning to add some run-parts support for /etc/network/if-{,pre-}{up,down}.d/ [08:48] ajmitch: TheMuso: I'll mail ubuntu-motu@ later today with a list of FTBFS and piuparts failures [08:48] I generated those during the night [08:49] lucas: cool work :) === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-132-063.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu applauds lucas. Very nice :) === schultmc [i=schultmc@nat/progeny/x-de30e31d6cf90870] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:54] lucas: Where do you get the computing power to do it!? [08:54] allee: still packaging wlassistant 0.5.6? [08:55] left brain, or right? [08:55] Fujitsu: at $DAY_JOB ;) [08:55] zakame: not today. I did not came very far, distracted by digikam errors [08:55] A whole lot of PCs, or one really big one? [08:56] I'm a phd student in lab that participates in a project called grid'5000 [08:56] Aha, [08:56] allee: I'm gonna try my hand at it, and add some run-parts integration too [08:56] the plan is to build an experimental computer grid, so there's ~2000 bi-opteron nodes available [08:56] zakame: great. Go on [08:56] I'd like to see it run /etc/network/ scripts [08:56] thanks [08:56] Hm, I've got 200x AMD64 2800+ (and above) at my disposal. === Fujitsu plots. [08:57] zomg [08:57] heh, where from ? [08:57] zakame: can you reassign in launchpad? [08:57] School. [08:58] allee: sure [08:58] zakame: I'll merge back to debian. So next time it's easier to merge (or no merge at all) [08:59] debian's still at 0.5.5-1, I think a ping on them is needed :) === buxy [n=nnnnnnnn@arrakeen.ouaza.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:00] zakame: wlassistant is in the debian's alioth svn there I can commit ;) [09:01] cool [09:01] no need for reportbug then :) [09:02] zakame: yeap, just ping me === Lure_ [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:05] thanks :) === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp28-178.lns1.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F73D82.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:29] good morning [09:29] moins dholbach [09:29] hey imbrandon === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-98-83.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@28.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kagou [n=Kagou@88.140.39.24] has joined #ubuntu-motu === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-24-0-153-89.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:30] <\sh> moins === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hoora_214 [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-d1dcf8e49694e9d1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zic_ [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:39] heya \sh === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-131-081.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TMM [n=hp@212.123.212.131] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cassidy [n=cassidy@14.207-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:53] lucas: thanks for the rebuild & piuparts run [11:53] how long does it take to run it all? [11:54] what is piuports? [11:54] tests installability/cleanliness of a package [11:55] installs in a chroot, sees what's left over afterwards [11:55] plus upgrading, etc === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@dsl-hkigw8-feb6fb00-217.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:56] ah === ajmitch spots a few errors there that'll be handled by syncs [11:59] lucas: it'd be great if you could rerun this in a week or two === TheMuso found one that looks completely incorrect according to lp. [12:03] ah but thats from edgy === TheMuso examines speech-dispatcher. [12:07] ugh [12:07] whoever's handling syncs this week will hate me === TheMuso guesses there will be a lot of python stuff in there === mr_pouit [n=mr_pouit@LAubervilliers-151-12-73-187.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === givr1 [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-64-64.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:15] hi [12:16] hi Adri2000 [12:16] Hey Adri2000. [12:16] lol ajmitch , gonna give them a workout? [12:17] imbrandon: certainly [12:21] <\sh> hmm..I'm trying to build some of lukas list [12:22] <\sh> on amd64 to make it more difficult ,-) [12:23] <\sh> the problem is for me, to determine from lucas' mail, which arch he used... [12:23] \sh: The build log has nothing? [12:24] <\sh> TheMuso: which build log? LPs build log e.g. for aqsis says: it's build on all archs [12:24] <\sh> so I wonder [12:24] There are build logs of all the FTBFS packages. [12:24] it looks like he used x86 [12:24] If you follow the link that Lucus gave, there is an ubuntu-rebuild directory. [12:25] <\sh> well, I don't trust those list... [12:25] <\sh> btw: aqsis [12:25] <\sh> DC-Build-Header: aqsis 1.1.0.20050815-4ubuntu1 / Thu Feb 01 22:10:37 +0100 2007 [12:25] <\sh> E: /etc/schroot/schroot.conf: line 1: Invalid line: " [12:25] <\sh> Can't close schroot pipe at /usr/share/perl5/Sbuild/Chroot.pm line 125. [12:25] <\sh> DC-Build-Status: Failed 0.819075s [12:25] if you don't trust them, don't use them [12:25] <\sh> DC-Time-Estimation: 0.819075 versus expected 32000 (r/m: 39067.461374111 ; m: 0.819075) [12:25] <\sh> wonderful if you have broken buildds [12:25] heh, see apport's build log [12:26] there are a few with broken chroots [12:26] <\sh> yes, that's why you can throw the result away...and lets trust lp when we rebuild our full archive [12:26] in about 6 weeks time === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:27] <\sh> or use parallel pbuilder with distcc ,-> [12:27] or more === eXistenZ [n=amerdakk@unaffiliated/eXistenZ] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:31] <\sh> shermann@LT420:~/test$ cat test.txt |awk '{print $6}'|grep -e "^1k"|wc -l [12:31] <\sh> 198 [12:31] not bad [12:31] <\sh> 198 packages you can throw away because of broken buildd [12:31] <\sh> shermann@LT420:~/test$ cat test.txt |awk '{print $6}'|grep -ve "^1k"|wc -l [12:31] <\sh> 473 === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:32] <\sh> 473 packages with something else [12:32] so nearly 1/3 failure just because of buildds [12:32] <\sh> jepp === TheMuso doesn't quite understand. [12:33] <\sh> http://people.debian.org/~lucas/logs/2007/02/01/ubuntu-rebuild/ [12:33] TheMuso: 198 package builds failed due to broken sbuild/schroot config [12:33] <\sh> all logs with "1k" size are there, because of a broken sbuild config [12:33] ls -l [12:33] grr [12:33] imbrandon: better than your password [12:33] true [12:33] ajmitch: Ah. [12:35] ajmitch: I have already requested a sync for openser [12:35] oh well [12:35] Adri2000: are you merging blam or not? [12:35] already uploaded [12:35] ok [12:35] <\sh> then we have some shit with apt-get === TheMuso found a package that needs a build-dep changed. [12:36] Just checking if it can be synced. === infinito [n=infinito@87.217.160.31] has joined #ubuntu-motu === infinito [n=infinito@87.217.160.31] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Abandonando"] === TwoPints [n=frank@ACC83135.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lukaswayne9 [n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === afflux [i=discoflu@gateway/tor/x-80f2b62a6371b9d1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === eXistenZ [n=amerdakk@unaffiliated/eXistenZ] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kano [n=kano@91.64.67.21] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:03] hi, 915resolution should be updated [01:04] because i need it installable without intel chipset [01:04] file a bug then [01:04] ATI chipset detected. 915resolution only works with Intel 800/900 series graphic chipsets. [01:04] invoke-rc.d: initscript 915resolution, action "start" failed. [01:04] apt-get install -f [01:05] even fails in circles... [01:05] I'm sure that's been in Feisty for some months. [01:06] i use debian usually [01:06] and there are not so many live cd creators out there it seems [01:07] Indeed, the last email notification for 915resolution I have is 0.5.2-9 in Debian and 0.5.2-9ubuntu1 in Ubuntu. The issue you mentioned was fixed a couple of versions ago, I'm sure. === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:13] invoke-rc.d 915resolution XXX || exit $? [01:13] that is serious problem [01:14] ? [01:14] well try to install that package on a system without intel gfx [01:15] why would I even attempt to do that? :-) [01:15] to have it presinstalled [01:16] ah [01:16] because i enable it on the fly when needed [01:16] why? :-) [01:16] there is a new xorg-driver which has modesetting in it... [01:16] i check for i810 driver [01:16] and is that default? [01:16] dunno [01:16] No. [01:16] I don't use it :-P [01:16] xserver-xorg-video-i810-modesetting [01:17] you mean that one [01:17] That's the one. [01:17] yepp [01:18] would be an idea [01:18] seriously... that's the future [01:18] Kano: What version of 915resolution are you using? [01:18] Fujitsu: maybe i just used a trick to install it before [01:18] not sure right now [01:18] 915resolution (0.5.2-6) unstable; urgency=low [01:18] * Make sure that the init script exits gracefully in case the chipset [01:18] is not supported (Closes: #398077) Thanks to David Fox [01:19] 0.5.2-9ubuntu1 and the debian one [01:23] Might it be advisable to stick the FTBFS list into a wiki page, with a comments/status field? === ajmitch hates wiki pages [01:24] and as \sh found out, about 1/3 of the failed build logs are useless [01:24] Have we got anything better, though? [01:24] not yet, going to whip something up this weekend [01:24] Ah, that will be good [01:24] since I need to add comments to that rc bugs page [01:24] I like mdz's suggestion. [01:25] It is surely not too hard to test-build a couple of hundred package.s [01:25] Fujitsu: no it's not, I've done it overnight before [01:25] So we just need to rebuild the failures, so we can get the proper list. [01:26] it gives exit code 2 [01:26] on error [01:26] Hm, white's not around (he's the Debian maintainer, and is often here) === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-128-233.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === infinito [n=infinito@87.217.160.31] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pirast [n=martin@p508B1BD6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:29] Fujitsu: the problem is, when you use dash you get error code 2 [01:29] and when you use bash you get error code 0 [01:29] You sure? [01:29] 100% [01:29] That's rather strange. [01:29] What's the code that gives the error? === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:30] it quits before with dash [01:30] + /usr/sbin/915resolution -l [01:30] ATI chipset detected. 915resolution only works with Intel 800/900 series graphic chipsets. [01:30] + bios_list=Intel 800/900 Series VBIOS Hack : version 0.5.2 [01:30] thats last with dash [01:31] OK. [01:31] + /usr/sbin/915resolution -l [01:31] + wrong_chipset [01:31] thats going on with bash [01:31] Please report a bug against the Debian package. [01:31] I [01:31] *I'm sure white will fix it soon. [01:31] that problem is specific to dash as sh, so best fixed under ubuntu [01:31] No. [01:31] Best fixed in Debian, to minimise deviance. [01:31] I hope to get xmms2 resolved soon: it builds in a pbuilder, it builds in lucas' rebuild but not on the buildds :( [01:31] It's still a bug in the script, not in Ubuntu. [01:32] &>/dev/null [01:32] first thats not allowed for dash [01:32] and thats the error [01:33] >/dev/null 2>&1 [01:33] thats the correct way for dash [01:33] (and of course bash too) [01:34] with that fix it installs correctly [01:35] please change [01:35] No, it's best to fix it in Debian. [01:35] ok, then main the debian maintainer... [01:35] If he refuses, or doesn't respond, then I would do it. [01:35] But we try to minimise deviance from Debian. [01:36] a 1 line change... [01:36] Even so, Debian might like the bug fix. [01:36] And might not like us if we don't forward the change. [01:36] ok, will mail him [01:36] Thankyou. [01:36] Better still, file a bug. [01:36] And thanks for picking this up, I don't think people regularly install it on non-Intel systems. === Weems|XP [n=frodo@68-113-73-179.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:40] i am used for find bashisms already ;) === Kagou [n=Kagou@88-138-214-219.adslgp.cegetel.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lbm [n=lbm@0x555373ab.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:40] woot pbuilders done [01:40] x86 buildd is "useable" now [01:41] for anyone that cares [01:41] imbrandon: Nice. [01:41] hehe yea TheMuso now you can try it out since your a ubuntu-dev ;) [01:41] imbrandon: Yup. [01:41] So it our lp username? [01:41] ie for me its TheMuso? [01:42] yea lp username , uses the sshkey from LP [01:42] Right. [01:42] and the ip is build.imbrandon.com [01:42] imbrandon: good [01:42] imbrandon: now I want to do something extra special there :) [01:42] I get a prompt [01:43] ajmitch, rocking, go for it ajmitch [01:43] breezy dapper edgy feisty and sid are setup [01:43] TheMuso, one sec [01:43] lemme make sure your user is correct === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-68-147.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:44] all lowercase [01:44] drwxr-xr-x 3 themuso ubuntu-dev 160 2007-01-30 20:19 themuso [01:44] imbrandon: I'm in [01:44] but I was expecting that menu thingy. [01:44] you should have access to pbuilder-$dist [01:44] yea the menu isnt done yet [01:44] brb [01:45] imbrandon: the menu will be optional, I hope? [01:45] i siad useable not "finished" hehehe [01:45] ajmitch, definately [01:45] good [01:45] I won't want to use it :) [01:45] me either [01:45] I want to be able to submit build jobs to your systems & get build logs emailed to me [01:45] but i still wanna add it for those that do [01:45] I already have some tools for it here [01:45] ajmitch, rockin [01:46] hmm [01:46] imbrandon: SO for those who'd rather the prompt, how will we access the systems we want? [01:46] yeah, if I can specify which arch to build on it'll be great :) [01:46] you can , one sec, i'm on a call for work cant concentrate on both [01:46] lol === infinito [n=infinito@87.217.160.31] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:47] np === infinito [n=infinito@87.217.160.31] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Abandonando"] === lucas [n=lucas@80.248.208.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu heads off to bed. === ajmitch should probably sleep too [01:51] ajmitch, you certainly should! === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@202.183.119.66] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:52] heh [01:52] ah [01:52] local mirror? :-) [01:52] Nafallo, yea === TheMuso should head to bed also. [01:53] imbrandon: What other archs are planned? [01:53] ppc and x86_64 [01:54] and past that it will have to be donated hardware [01:54] as for arm etc if its wanted [01:54] Night folks. [01:54] gnight TheMuso [01:55] i'll work on some psudo "docs" for it today sometime [01:55] it == the buildd's [01:55] now that they are useable, maybe not finished but useable [01:55] then when ajmitch does some majic on them will be really nice === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:56] like what? :) [01:56] 'requestbuild foobar amd64' ? [01:56] wait a bit & get logs? [01:56] ;) [01:56] Mmm, shiny. [01:56] should be easy enough to do [01:57] hack requestsync, send gpg-signed mail to some email address [01:57] use procmail to fire requests off to the buildds [01:57] yea , like "ssh $user@amd64:pbuiler-feisty build blah.dsc" [01:57] pbuilder --logfile, etc, all done [01:57] or soemthing behind the seen [01:57] yeah, that's one option [01:58] but that doesn't allow for async operations very well [01:58] hrm true [01:58] or requesting builds of 100 packages at a time [01:58] wanna-build! [01:58] which I would tend to do [01:58] Fujitsu: sure, I'll look at the options :) === rpereira [n=rpereira@ubuntu/member/rpereira] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:58] ;) [01:58] That is what wanna-build is designed for, is it not? [01:58] more or less [01:59] mostly [01:59] now i just need to add the ram to that box, finish up the menu [02:00] and pub some doc's / instructions === ajmitch might see if a build queue could be distributed a bit [02:00] hi ajmitch [02:00] since I'm sure you'll want to get multiple machines [02:00] huhu imbrandon [02:00] heya siretart [02:00] hey siretart === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:00] ajmitch, yup yup [02:00] how are you? [02:00] ajmitch: I'm at work :) [02:00] heh :) [02:01] and you? [02:01] ajmitch, yea the pan is to eventualy have 2x each minimum [02:01] siretart: do you use wanna-build? [02:01] ajmitch: Couldn't we have a global MOTU build queue, possibly distributed over multiple sites? [02:01] err [02:01] siretart: about to go to bed [02:01] Fujitsu: that's what I was thinking of, yes === Fujitsu heads off to bed too. [02:01] ajmitch: not yet, but I had it on my list once. what do you want it for? [02:01] siretart: MOTU build farm, imbrandon has machines up & running & accounts available [02:01] but I want to go beyond that [02:01] A central wanna-build, with a million or two sbuilds running build would be great. [02:01] ajmitch: care to announce your faboulus bug lists? [02:02] ajmitch: I guess we'll get that for free with the personal package archives, no? [02:02] *running builds [02:02] siretart: I guess, I was just going through & filing sync requests while I could :) [02:02] siretart, if they ever land, perhaps. [02:02] hehe [02:02] I've missed the beginning of the conversation, what are the builders needed for? [02:02] siretart, yea but this is by the people for the people ;) [02:02] pluss open / free [02:02] ;) [02:02] siretart: I want to add comments field to it before I announce it more [02:03] ajmitch: ah, I see [02:03] azeem, for those of us who don't wish to carry out lots of builds on our own, slow machines. [02:03] And stuff. [02:03] Or on other archs. [02:03] azeem, i did it firstly to give MOTU access to other arches like the debian porter machines [02:03] Fujitsu: so something like debian/experimental for ubuntu/universe? [02:03] siretart, pardon? [02:04] Fujitsu: in debian, we have a 'special' upload target called 'experimental', which is a seperate dak suite from 'unstable' [02:04] Noted. [02:04] Fujitsu: DDs can upload there and have their package built on a special buildd network [02:04] But that's also then published. [02:04] on the official mirror network. right [02:04] ah, ok [02:05] hi azeem [02:05] Ah. More deception about the experimental buildds [02:05] heya [02:05] :-P [02:05] StevenK: What deception would this be? [02:05] Fujitsu: Note the ":-P" [02:05] StevenK, full of bitterness & rage :) [02:05] you sound like Barry [02:05] Aha. === ajmitch wonders if he's been reading -private or something :) [02:06] Me? Sadly, yes [02:06] haha [02:06] azeem, basicly what it is right now is i have 3 boxes in a DC i work at behind the IP build.imbrandon.com that sync accounts from LP for ubuntu-{,-core}-dev and their sshkeys , with pbuilders setup for all current ubuntu targets , to give all MOTU's access [02:07] but ajmitch ( and me ) have dreams about makin it bigger === ajmitch more has plans for making it easier [02:07] kinda akin to the debian porter boxen atm [02:07] Which arches? [02:07] ppc amd64 x86 [02:07] imbrandon: will there be chroots available for testing stuff? [02:07] Where's the SPARC? :-P [02:08] ajmitch, other than pbuilder-$dist login ? [02:08] ajmitch, pbuilder-[release] [02:08] *login [02:08] StevenK, send me a sparc and i'll rack it [02:08] ;) [02:08] Damn, I'm somewhat too tired to type. [02:08] Goodnight, for real this time! [02:08] % ssh root@e uname -m [02:08] gnight Fujitsu [02:08] sparc64 [02:08] And it's staying here [02:08] hehe [02:09] I can't delete from nafallo@aurora:/storage/pbuilders/feisty/result ;-) [02:09] Nafallo, ahh yea i probably have to play with the dir perms a bit [02:09] i'll fix that up here in a few [02:09] imbrandon: yes, easier than that [02:09] or make a cron that cleans it out automatically in cron.daily or something :-P [02:10] imbrandon: even a simple script on your system to start pbuilder & mail results would be better for me [02:10] Nafallo, yea that too [02:10] imbrandon: I'd suggest 1775 for /pbuilders/*/result [02:10] ajmitch: pdebuild | tee file && mail file [02:10] StevenK: whatever works, I don't care :) [02:11] Heh [02:11] plus I hate using pdebuild [02:11] too many screwed up packages with bad clean: targets [02:11] Yeah, well [02:12] done and done [02:12] Oh drat, my log cleaner didn't work for my mirror [02:12] anyway, I have to go & sleep as well [02:12] gnight ajmitch [02:12] night all [02:13] Ah, it did, it just cleans up 2 months ago === StevenK hacks it to use rm -v [02:14] time to make some coffee [02:14] Ahhh, it does use rm -v, it just doesn't log it. Silly thing. [02:15] imbrandon: cool! thanks for your offer! [02:16] siretart, np ;) its been in the works since before UDS [02:16] just now getting asrround to makin it happen [02:17] imbrandon: I'm curious how beefy the machines are. === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:17] If it's scarily faster than my 3GHz amd64, I'd consider it [02:17] the x86 is a model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.66GHz with 256mb ram ( 2gb ready to put in just havent been to the DC yet to do it ) [02:18] the x86_64 is a pent-d 3ghz with 4gb ddr2 [02:18] You lose. :-P [02:18] and the ppc is a 800mhz ppc with 640mb ram [02:18] the x86_64 is dual core also [02:18] Ah === StevenK ponders using the ppc for nefarious purposes [02:19] heh [02:19] Like Xnest and installing ubuntu-desktop [02:19] hahahaa [02:19] It's for a good purpose, honest. :-P [02:19] Does the ssh config allow X11 forwarding? [02:20] as of this moment yes, unless it gets abused [02:20] ;) === geser [n=michael@dialin108253.justdsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:20] I'm not planning on abusing it. [02:20] hehe i know [02:20] but its good for testing xapps [02:20] so i left it on === StevenK nods. === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon yawns [02:26] Hrm. Can I jump directly to the ppc? [02:28] no its behind nat ( thus the pdmenu i was makin ) but the ppc and 64 are off for the next few hours [02:28] i havent put the new switch in [02:29] but i am doing that today [02:29] Gah, I wanted to use the ppc. :-) [02:29] hehe give me a few hours ( by the time you wake up ) [02:29] and it will be up === StevenK nods === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:34] actualy hrm [02:34] i could probably put 2 nics in the webserver and then just run ssh on diffrent ports for the ppc etc [02:34] Indeed [02:34] then you would be able to jump right to them if wished [02:35] *thinks* [02:35] You don't need to run it on different ports, but DNAT from the webserver [02:35] DNAT / [02:35] ? [02:35] Beg your hosting provider for /29. :-P [02:35] hehe [02:36] Destination Network Addressing Translation [02:36] imbrandon: if you are really interested in hosting sparcs, I can ask here in the departement, if there is an old one available. however, it won't be fast! [02:36] siretart: I was yanking imbrandon's chain. :-) [02:36] siretart, i dont mind about speed at all, it would be nice [02:36] specialy if it was rackable [02:36] ;) [02:36] I doubt we have any 19" sparcs [02:36] since it is a suported arch [02:37] siretart, hehe nice but not nessesary [02:37] i have rack shelfs [02:37] Most lowend sparcs aren't rackable [02:37] Heh heh, "lowend" [02:37] were do you live? (where would I need to ship it to?) [02:37] kansas city , missouri [02:37] wow [02:37] Redneck County [02:37] heh [02:37] BWHAHA === StevenK ducks [02:38] dead center of the USA [02:38] sending sparcs from europe to germany, heh [02:38] ouch, your in EU ? [02:38] yepp, germany more specifically [02:39] wow , yea lemme see about some thing localy [02:39] first [02:39] how do you manage your machines? do you use cfengine or puppet or something? [02:39] ummm no [02:39] mine or company wise? [02:39] I'm guessing "Manually" [02:39] no, I don't think it makes sense to ship it that far. I'd better see if I can host it somewhere here [02:39] yea [02:40] a friend did offer a spare ultra 30 to ubuntu, which was used as buildd for universe for I think half a year === Kano [n=kano@91.64.67.21] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Konversation] [02:40] ;) [02:40] imbrandon: To be honest though, ask about a /29, at our datacentre, it didn't end up costing us much more [02:40] then it became mandatory for buildds to be in the canonical datacentre, then we shut the box down [02:40] i had an ultra 5 ( 200mhz ) a few months ago, i should have kept it [02:41] perhaps I can ask joerg to repower it [02:41] StevenK, its all free ( for me anyhow ) but yea [02:41] Ultra 5's didn't hit 200MHz, if I recall [02:41] but I don't think I have time and interest to admin yet another box [02:41] i could prorbhavbly get a class c if i whigned enough [02:41] Or was it 300? === did448 [n=didier@LAubervilliers-151-13-66-3.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:41] yea the ultra 5's had 2 and 400 mhz iirc [02:42] that was top end [02:42] I think there was one in the middle, too [02:42] probably [02:42] imbrandon: if you want to do it properly, we perhaps would need to think about having a managment infrastructure, involving ldap, kerb and cfengine [02:42] The processor ran at 270, 300, 333, 360 or 400 MHz, depending on model. [02:42] Wikipedia to the rescue [02:43] siretart, yea i'm actualy writing /wrote some custom scripts to import LP accounts just to keep it manageable [02:43] as far as accounts [02:43] and sshkeys etc [02:43] StevenK, hehe [02:43] imbrandon: cfengine scripts? [02:44] bash , lol === Kano [n=kano@91.64.67.21] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:44] hm. I see [02:44] so [02:44] found next broken package [02:44] cfv [02:44] Setting up cfv (1.18.1-0ubuntu2) ... [02:44] /usr/bin/python: can't open file '/usr/lib/python/compileall.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory [02:44] dpkg: error processing cfv (--configure): [02:44] subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2 [02:44] Errors were encountered while processing: [02:44] cfv [02:45] Ah ha [02:46] Kano: I can look at uploading a fixed package nowish / in the morning, if you like? [02:46] siretart, definately, i'm not a management expert basicly i put the hardware in the rack and supply the bandwidth etc heheh [02:46] but we're working on it as we go ;) [02:46] today was the first "public" useage [02:46] ( and ajmitch as admin on the box too ) [02:46] it is very crazy, in theory that file is not even availble in debian... [02:47] at that position [02:47] Kano: Yes, it needs to be updated to the new Python policy [02:47] debian/postinst: /usr/bin/$PYTHON -O /usr/lib/python$PV/compileall.py -q $i [02:47] debian/postinst: /usr/bin/$PYTHON /usr/lib/python$PV/compileall.py -q $i [02:47] because a $PV var is used... [02:48] PV=`dpkg --listfiles $PACKAGE | sed -n -e '/^\/usr\/lib\/python.*\//{ [02:48] s,/usr/lib/python\([0-9] [0-9.] *\)/.*,\1,p [02:48] q [02:48] }'` [02:48] Kano: Yes, that's the old way. [02:48] stupid hack === chrisj [n=tortoise@82.152.223.112] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:51] Kano: Test building a fixed package [02:51] imbrandon: :) [02:51] the --listfiles is a joke [02:52] as there is no /usr/lib/python in cfv [02:52] and package must be cfv [02:52] Kano: I'm sure it was an oversight [02:54] Kano: Fixed package uploaded, it will take a little while to hit the archive. === Tonio_ [n=tonio@28.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:55] also why has the debian package python-dev as build dep and the ubuntu one not [02:55] Kano: Thanks for giving me a bug to fix. :-) === herzi [n=herzi@p548FD02D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:56] Kano: Because the Debian one hasn't been changed to the new Python policy, I'm guessing. [02:56] ok guys i'm heading home [02:57] where can i test your fixed package? [02:57] see yall in a few [02:57] Kano: I can put it on the web, if you like === Tonio_ [n=tonio@28.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:58] Kano: To be honest, if you wait around a day, it should hit the archive automatically [02:59] i want it now [02:59] do you really think i want a day when i need a package? [02:59] wait === bigon [i=bigon@imladris.bigon.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:00] Kano: http://wedontsleep.org/~steven/test/cfv_1.18.1-0ubuntu3_all.deb [03:01] fine [03:01] i really like cfv === Tonio_ [n=tonio@28.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Pricey [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:09] ajmitch: I can re-run them in a few weeks, yes [03:09] \sh: i386 chroot on amd64 [03:09] I think it's in the mail [03:10] geser: [xmms2] I looked at it a while ago (since I uploaded it to edgy), but couldn't understand why it failed, so I filed a bug and gave up. [03:13] lucas: I'm now in a similar situation. It builds fine in a pbuilder and during your rebuild but failed on the buildds claiming it couldn't find a c compiler. I hope to get a a buildd admin to look at it === tmarble [n=tmarble@user-38q4et6.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-68-147.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [03:30] tsmithe: asoundconf-gtk uploaded, archived. [03:34] what nickname does till kampetter use here? [03:34] tkamppeter in -devel. === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-68-147.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:38] Heya gang [03:41] crimsun: thanks [03:43] hi bddebian [03:43] Heya geser === Kagou [n=Kagou@88-138-214-219.adslgp.cegetel.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Parti"] [03:48] OK, where the heck is the build queue these days? [03:48] distros/ubuntu/feisty/+queue === reggaemanu_ [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-149-14.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra_ [n=ogra@p548ADF74.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:53] crimsun: Thx. I'm a little confused though. I got three accepted mails this morning but the source packages still don't show up on LP? [03:53] 09:27 < Mithrandir> pitti: yes and no, not yet. (I'll do it soonish, but [03:53] something has locked the distrorelease table so we can't [03:53] flip feisty back to development) [03:54] Am I supposed to be able to make sense of that? :-) [03:56] apologies for formatting. [03:57] source packages still require a manual shove [03:57] "something has locked the distrorelease table so we can't flip feisty back to development" [for cron'ed processing] [03:58] Ah, OK thx === rexbron [n=rexbron@complex1-372-008.resnet.yorku.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:02] <\sh> lucas:yepp...read it....could you check the sbuild/chroot errors? 148 or 149 packages are on the list, but are building [04:06] can i use any svn to build a package for ubuntu? [04:06] err, clarify? [04:07] like there is a FC6 svn can i use that to build a ubuntu package? [04:07] you can do anything you want for yourself [04:08] k === givr1 [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-98-244.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:09] ty === givr1 [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-98-244.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [04:13] bug 82674 [04:13] Malone bug 82674 in cups-pdf "add/remove the PDF printer in CUPS at installation/removal time" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82674 === fraco [n=fraco@213.219.142.248.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pochu [n=pochu@179.Red-88-7-169.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ForgeAus [n=forge@124.243.164.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ForgeAus [n=forge@124.243.164.119] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Konversation] === sistpoty [n=sistpoty@ubuntu/member/sistpoty] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:47] hi folks [04:49] Heya sistpoty [04:49] hi bddebian === cypher1 [n=cypher1@59.92.204.138] has joined #ubuntu-motu === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:03] Hi, does anyone know what happened with pam-keyring? The package seems to have been sync but there is no infomations on the lp === coNP [n=conp@pool-012eb.externet.hu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:09] bigon: maybe it's still in the new queue? [05:10] sistpoty: maybe, but the bugreport has been closed last Monday [05:11] bigon: yep, it's still in the new-queue: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+queue?start=20 [05:11] should we keep the ubuntu changelog entries for a fakesync (because of different orig.tar.gz)? [05:12] sistpoty: thanks :) [05:12] Adri2000: I guess you can delete them. if it's identical to the debian package the changelog entries might just lead to confusion for the next merge [05:13] bigon: np [05:14] sistpoty: ok [05:14] and fakesync means I just upload .dsc and .diff.gz, so we keep the ubuntu orig.tar.gz? === pirast [n=martin@p508B1BD6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:19] Adri2000: yes [05:20] Adri2000: as you can only change the orig.tar.gz if it's a differnt upstream version [05:21] ok === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:27] Uhm, if the package uses python-central but does this in rules: export PYTHON=/usr/bin/python2.4 [05:27] doesn't it defeat the purpose? === cypher1 is away: I'm busy === cypher1 is back (gone 00:00:02) [05:30] bddebian: not quite sure, but it doesn't make much sense to me [05:31] <\sh> ok...leaving office for cologne... [05:31] <\sh> cu === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:31] <\sh> or have a nice weekend :) [05:31] You too \sh_away === coNP [n=conp@pool-02233.externet.hu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === co-NP [n=conp@pool-00345.externet.hu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:42] argh, my fake sync got rejected :( [05:42] sistpoty: still here? [05:42] Adri2000: yes [05:43] Adri2000: what did you get? md5 mismatch of orig.tar.gz? [05:43] yes [05:43] I didn't upload the orig.tar.gz [05:44] Adri2000: well, you'll need to exchange the orig.tar.gz with the ubuntu one and then build the source package [05:44] Aye [05:44] Adri2000: might involve changing the .dsc by hand in case dpkg-buildpackage makes trouble [05:46] build the source package using the ubuntu orig.tar.gz instead of the debian one, right? [05:46] Adri2000: exactly [05:47] what I don't understand is "File glob2_0.8.21.orig.tar.gz mentioned in the changes has a checksum mismatch.", it is not mentionned in the .changes [05:47] -n [05:47] Adri2000: it's mentioned in the .dsc [05:47] ah, yes, ok [05:49] Gah -devel is getting cranky :-) === ScottK just read the scrollback and notices that imbrandon is in Kansas City - which is cool because that's where he grew up. [06:06] Accepted glob2 0.8.21-4build1 (source), yay! === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mikhail^ [n=dean@124.106.241.222] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ppjet6 [n=ppjet6@81.56.130.254] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === did448 [n=didier@LPuteaux-151-41-32-62.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bleinmono [n=toffel@ppp85-141-150-252.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #ubuntu-motu === d33p__ [n=d33p@87.217.144.17] has joined #ubuntu-motu === co-NP [n=conp@pool-02af2.externet.hu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fowlduck [n=nate@205.213.122.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === d33p__ is now known as luisbg === Neonightmare [n=neonight@69-27.0-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Neonightmare [n=neonight@69-27.0-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === jaldhar_ [n=jaldhar@c-24-0-153-89.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar_ [n=jaldhar@c-24-0-153-89.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-036-075.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-74.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Weems|XP [n=frodo@68-113-73-179.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chrisj [n=tortoise@82.152.223.112] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fowlduck [n=nate@205.213.122.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucas [n=lucas@vds233.sivit.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rexbron [n=rexbron@complex1-372-008.resnet.yorku.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-074-011-063.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _stefan_ [n=sistpoty@DSL01.83.171.152.216.ip-pool.NEFkom.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-98-244.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lizardking_ [n=lizardki@87.20.134.233] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:58] good night everybody - have a nice WE! [07:58] g'night dholbach [07:58] bye Lutin === ademan [n=dan@192.235.11.1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _Hug[o] _ [n=amerdakk@unaffiliated/eXistenZ] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ppjet6 [n=ppjet6@lns-bzn-51f-81-56-130-254.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ademan_ [n=dan@192.235.11.1] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:37] morning all [08:37] Heya ajmitch [08:39] Good morning. [08:40] grr, why I keep missing sistpoty... [08:40] siretart: different timezones :) [08:40] ajmitch: hrhr ;) === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:46] huhu siretart [08:48] Damn, I think I'm losing another laptop HD :-( [08:49] hey bddebian === giskard [n=giskard@213-140-22-74.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ademan__ [n=dan@chem1.dvc.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-98-244.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === givr1 [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-80-38.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:09] huhu siretart [09:10] sistpoty! [09:10] hi ajmitch === DktrKranz [n=DktrKran@host104-43-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:18] hey sistpoty! [09:18] hi siretart, how are you? [09:18] sistpoty: you're cheating with just changing your nick! ;) [09:18] sistpoty: great, shall I give you a phone call? [09:18] siretart: I'm innocent... was the 24h disconnet ;) [09:19] siretart: sure === tonyyserver [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bigon [i=bigon@imladris.bigon.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:24] heya motu, is there somebody with some time to upload http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4249 ? [09:24] this is the latest version of ntfs-3g with *a lot* of bug fixes [09:27] Just upload eh, no reviews? :) === lizardking_ [n=lizardki@87.20.134.233] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:29] bddebian: hum, i thought it wasn't needed for package already reviewed... [09:29] might be wrong === coNP [n=conp@pool-026dc.externet.hu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:30] at least the motu who uploads it should review it === somerville32 [n=somervil@ubuntu/member/somerville32] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:31] Adri2000: ok, so i was wrong ;) [09:32] -> Considering libfuse-dev (>= 2.6) [09:32] Tried versions: 2.5.3-4.1ubuntu3 [09:32] -> Does not satisfy version, not trying [09:32] E: Could not satisfy build-dependency. [09:32] E: pbuilder-satisfydepends failed. [09:33] bddebian: hum, you need ultra up to date feisty, fuse 2.6.2 has been just merge in feisty [09:34] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/feisty-changes/2007-February/004584.html [09:37] givr1: Well it still ain't there yet [09:39] bddebian: hum, i saw it was, sorry :( [09:41] No worries === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-24-0-153-89.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:53] Hey MOTUs. [09:53] hi MOTU [09:53] hi MOTUs and MOTU [09:54] Heya TheMuso [09:55] right im going home.. [09:56] bye === pochu [n=pochu@179.Red-88-7-169.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jrib [n=jasonr@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:21] Lutin: Did kayali get rejected again?? [10:21] bddebian: indeed [10:21] For what? [10:22] pitti rejected it because I wans't including the adobe license file in the fonts dir [10:22] Ahh, OK [10:22] (was in debian/copyright though, but apparently it wasn't enough ;) = [10:33] Is crimsun away does anyone know? [10:34] bddebian: Did you check his whois/ [10:34] No [10:34] his wii :-) [10:35] hehe [10:35] Well according to that, he is. === ivoks [n=ivoks@22-156.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:37] anyone know off hand what version of scribus debian unstable uses? [10:37] 1.2.5.dfsg-5 [10:38] im uploading 1.3.3.7 to my site but im not good at official building :( [10:38] its "stable" from what they say [10:40] would i need a spec to get the newest version in feisty? === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-128-154.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:41] gnomefreak: Nope, build it and put it on REVU [10:42] bddebian: i will see if i can build it ill work on it this weekend [10:42] problem being i would have to make all the files by hand (rules,copyright,control) so on [10:42] right? [10:43] I wouldn't. I would copy the /debian dir from the latest Debian version and start from there [10:43] ah ok i will see what i can do this weekend than === caravena [n=caravena@77-45-112.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp28-178.lns1.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:07] bddebian: doesnt look like i need to do it scribus-ng 1.3.3.6.dfsg-1 in ubuntu adn 1.3.3.7.dfsg-1 in debian. i didnt think to look for scribus-ng === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-85-17.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@28.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:09] gnomefreak: Ah, sorry [11:09] its ok :) [11:12] Later gang [11:12] Later === nedko [n=nedko@89.253.148.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:16] TheMuso: any progress with fpconst package? === BrendanM [n=mccollam@hor-gold95.hor.ucl.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:17] Hello, I was told to ask in here for a package to be added to Ubuntu? [11:18] Ok [11:19] I am trying to get this software called Neuron to work. It is available here: http://www.neuron.yale.edu/neuron/install/install.html it is a specialized scientific program for simulating neurons, but it's very widely used among neuroscientists/students [11:19] I tried installing the Debian package there, but it didn't work on my system [11:20] it keeps giving me an error that says "error while loading shared libraries: libIVhines.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:27] So can I request a rebuild for Ubuntu? [11:27] BrendanM: Neither Debian nor Ubuntu have a package with that library in it. You'll need to find out what is supposed to provide it. === pirast [n=martin@p508B1BD6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:27] When I searched for that library, it came up with RPM stuff [11:28] so I don't know if maybe that debian package was converted from an rpm and that's why it's asking for it or what [11:29] The problem is I don't know what IT is... [11:29] If you found RPM stuff, what was the name of the library and where does it's source come from? [11:38] The name of the library is "libIVhines.so.3" I think [11:38] I found this: http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=libIVhines.so.3()(64bit) [11:39] it comes from something called InterViews, apparently === jaalto [n=jaalto@a81-197-175-198.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:46] Hey! I got it working! Yay! Now I can ..... do my homework... [11:47] The trick was to install another debian package from the same site for InterViews. I don't know why it wasn't listed as a dependency [11:47] What did you do? [11:47] Ah [11:47] I still think this is something that would be good to include in the repositories. Especially for Scibuntu. [11:49] Looks like it's called ivtools in Debian and Ubuntu. http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=ivtools&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all [11:49] what can be done if there is no package in debian for one im building? all i need is the 4 or so files rules,control,ect... [11:49] thats a question :( [11:50] BrendanM: There is a MOTU Science team that you might want to discuss this with. https://launchpad.net/~motuscience [11:50] yeah, apparently the package I installed from here: http://www.scientificcomputing.net/debian/packages/neuron/ which is iv_17-1_i386.deb, is a specially modified version of InterViews to work with Neuron [11:50] gnomefreak: Make a package? [11:50] That's what I had to do. [11:50] thanks, I might do that [11:51] looking on the ubuntu packaging guide to see if they tell you how [11:51] This is my package for one little tine Perl library I needed: https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+source/libnet-dns-resolver-programmable-perl [11:53] lucas: for the list of binary packages: how about grep Binary Sources | cut -d' ' -f 2- | sed -e's/,/\n/g' | sed -e's/ //g' [11:53] lucas: with Sources being the extracted sources.gz file === BrendanM [n=mccollam@hor-gold95.hor.ucl.ac.uk] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [12:03] sistpoty: you can replace the two sed with one: ... | sed -e 's/,/\n/g' -e's/ //g' [12:03] geser: ah, nice [12:04] or even better: sed -e 's/, /\n/g' === asantoni [n=alb@bas7-london14-1177945208.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu