[12:57] <Seveas> nixternal, poke
[01:01] <nixternal> Seveas: ouch!
[01:01] <Seveas> nixternal, heh
[01:01] <Seveas> can you please add the IRC oprators meeting to the fridge agnda
[01:01] <Seveas> it's on feb. 15, 5AM UTC
[01:02] <nixternal> I thought I did before, but sure, will do right now!
[01:02] <nixternal> sweet, 5am UTC!
[01:02] <Seveas> you couldn't have done it before, I haven't asked yet :)
[01:02] <LjL> ...5am
[01:03] <LjL> tell me how it goes :P
[01:03] <gnomefreak> ham UTC?
[01:03] <gnomefreak> 5am UTC?
[01:04] <Seveas> hehe
[01:04] <Seveas> LjL, 6AM isn't too early ;)
[01:04] <LjL> noooo
[01:04] <Seveas> you can manage to stay awake until then ;)
[01:04] <LjL> i'll be as awake as a morning bird :)
[01:04] <nixternal> Seveas: is there an agenda wiki page?
[01:04] <LjL> err, yeah, perhaps that :P
[01:05] <Seveas> nixternal, yes, but it still has the contents of the old meeting
[01:05] <Seveas> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcOperatorMeetingAgenda
[01:06] <gnomefreak> what day?
[01:06] <nixternal> Seveas: done!
[01:06] <LjL> 15 february
[01:06] <Seveas> gracias
[01:07] <gnomefreak> i can try to be awake
[01:07] <nixternal> no problemo
[01:07] <nixternal> I will be awake. 05:00 UTC == 23:00 here :)
[01:08] <gnomefreak> nixternal: try again its 00:00 atleast i thought you were EST
[01:09] <nixternal> Chicago Standard Time :)
[01:12] <LjL> here
[01:13] <LjL> oh right, thought i'd unbanned you already
[01:13] <Minataku> Nope, but then it's about 20m shy of 24h
[01:13] <Minataku> lol
[01:14] <gnomefreak> lol @ Chicago Standard Time
[02:08] <ubotu> In #ubuntu, Cryoniq said: !Windows Vista is the devil
[02:09] <Minataku> lol
[02:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[02:11] <ubotu> In ubotu, frogzoo said: no xmms is Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Audacious, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).   Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[02:12] <LjL> !xmms
[02:12] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[02:12] <LjL> ?
[02:12] <LjL> !-xmms
[02:12] <ubotu> xmms is <alias> players - added by Seveas on 2006-06-19 08:43:29
[02:12] <gnomefreak> lol
[02:13] <gnomefreak> he added audacious
[02:13] <LjL> oh
[02:13] <LjL> didn't spot that
[02:13] <gnomefreak> but i dont think its in repos atleast ive never seen it
[02:13] <LjL> however... he tried that already, but we decided it'd be better to leave it out since it's not in the repos, yeah
[02:13] <LjL> !audacious
[02:13] <ubotu> A !repository for the Audacious audio player now exists: see http://audacious-media-player.org/Downloads
[02:13] <gnomefreak> its in feist
[02:13] <LjL> he'd added this one
[02:13] <LjL> i'll just tell him
[02:13] <gnomefreak> y
[02:14] <gnomefreak> its in feisty repos
[02:14] <gnomefreak> audacious: Installed: (none) Candidate: 1.2.2-3
[02:14] <LjL> well, wouldn't it be better to wait until Feisty is stable before putting it on the list?
[02:14] <gnomefreak> its a fork of beep
[02:14] <LjL> after all, there's a lot of players on the list already, if we include things that are not in the repos yet...
[02:14] <gnomefreak> LjL: agreed
[02:15] <gnomefreak> that supports winamp skins :(
[02:15] <Minataku> Define what determines something to be "stable"
[02:15] <gnomefreak> it does
[02:15] <Minataku> I know Debian's definition of stable is if a package is more than 5 years old
[02:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> Minataku, in debian, when its > 6 months since freeze, in ubuntu, when its existed for 6 months ;)
[02:15] <LjL> Minataku: i mean "when it's released"
[02:15] <Minataku> What's *buntu's definition?
[02:16] <gnomefreak> Minataku: stable == been tested and approved
[02:16] <Minataku> LjL: I know, but my question is different
[02:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> !stable
[02:16] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[02:16] <LjL> Minataku: i don't have a definition for "stable"
[02:16] <Minataku> gnomefreak: And who tests these things? How much testing does it actually take?
[02:16] <Minataku> I'm asking legitimately
[02:17] <Minataku> I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything, I actually want to know this
[02:17] <Minataku> lol
[02:17] <LjL> i'm not a developer...
[02:17] <gnomefreak> Minataku: about 6 months of testing and normally people that know what they are doing should test
[02:17] <Minataku> 6 months is quite excessive, I would think
[02:18] <gnomefreak> devel tests it before its released into release
[02:18] <Minataku> I certainly hope security software such as OpenSSL is exempt from such extended testing
[02:18] <LjL> ?!
[02:18] <gnomefreak> Minataku: not everything can be tested for 6 months ofcourse but some things do
[02:18] <Seeker`> i think security patches are different?
[02:19] <LjL> Seeker`: they sure are
[02:19] <Minataku> Ah, okay
[02:19] <gnomefreak> tonyyserver: i didnt just walk in and so am i
[02:19] <gnomefreak> Seeker`: they are
[02:19] <LjL> anyway, this is getting a tad offtopic for here i think?
[02:19] <gnomefreak> they are tested in alpha and backported or released into security when we think it wont mess up a stable system
[02:19] <Minataku> It's a legitimate question about operation of the entire distro
[02:20] <LjL> yeah this channel is about operation of the ubuntu support channels though
[02:20] <Minataku> gnomefreak: Still, with enough people testing, I doubt everything needs 6 months
[02:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> tonyyarusso, can i pm you for a moment
[02:20] <Minataku> LjL: My bad, sorry
[02:20] <tonyyarusso> Kamping_Kaiser: sure.
[02:20] <gnomefreak> Minataku: read my post above the one that starts with Minataku: NOT
[02:22] <gnomefreak> wish people would think sometimes :(
[02:22] <Minataku> gnomefreak: Yes, but that line indicates that it should ALWAYS be 6mo
[02:22] <Minataku> And that less is somehow inferior testing
[02:22] <Minataku> That line being the one that starts with "Minataku: not"
[02:24] <Seeker`> Minataku: Unless it is patching a security hole, or particularly bad bug, it doesn't hurt to test it for 6 months, a small change in code could have hidden effects and affect other packages. You need that long to ensure it works in as many different configurations of packages as possible
[02:25] <Minataku> I suppose such may be needed for an "It just works" distro, but it still seems quite excessive given that an active project means that it will stagnate very quickly
[02:26] <gnomefreak> LjL:  didnt you stop this topic a while ago?
[02:26] <gnomefreak> ;)
[02:27] <Seeker`> sorry
[02:28] <Minataku> gnomefreak: You were the first to continue it after that, in all honesty ;3
[02:28] <gnomefreak> but i stopped when i saw what he said
[02:28] <Minataku> But, sorry, I just figured it'd be better to ask the higher-ups where they all are rather than the users who don't know
[02:29] <Minataku> I'm not aware of any more appropriate place to ask than here so I apologize for taking the channel offtopic
[02:30] <gnomefreak> Minataku: #ubuntu-motu would be the best place for that
[02:30] <Minataku> Ah, I'll keep that in mind the next time I have an administrative question :3
[02:32] <gnomefreak> Minataku: development is not an admin question
[02:33] <Minataku> I meant administrative to the distribution
[02:33] <Hobbsee> !schedule
[02:33] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Feisty Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule
[02:33] <Minataku> It wasn't exactly a development question
[02:33] <Minataku> It was a question about the testing and approval policy
[02:33] <Minataku> Which is an administrative manner
[02:34] <gnomefreak> how is testing done, and what stable means has nothing to do with IRC ops
[02:34] <Minataku> Channel operators != IRC Operators
[02:35] <gnomefreak> we have staff in here too
[02:35] <gnomefreak> Minataku: why ar eyou in here?
[02:35] <gnomefreak> are you even
[02:35] <Minataku> I think I got yelled at yesterday then I came in here to yell back or something
[02:36] <no0tic> hi, how can I use /remove with a multi-word reason?
[02:36] <Hobbsee> Minataku: was banned from #kubuntu yesterday
[02:37] <Hobbsee> no0tic: stick a : in between the nick and reason :)
[02:37] <Hobbsee> took me ages to figure that one out
[02:37] <Minataku> Only for 24h
[02:37] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: do we know what for?
[02:37] <Minataku> Ah, yes, the raw command delimiter
[02:37] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: you'd have to ask ljl, he set the ban
[02:37] <Minataku> Clients typically fill in the :
[02:37] <no0tic> Hobbsee, like /remove #ubuntu-it <nick>:non floodare mai pi
[02:37] <Minataku> It's expired anyway
[02:37] <Hobbsee> ah yes, it would be over 24h by now.  seeing as it was during the meeting.
[02:38] <Minataku> no0tic: Space after <nick>
[02:38] <Hobbsee> no0tic: yep
[02:38] <no0tic> Hobbsee, ok thanks
[02:38] <Minataku> Why the extreme dependence on services?
[02:39] <Hobbsee> Minataku: actually, that ban should be undone, you know
[02:39] <LjL> it is
[02:39] <Minataku> It is, but I do have another question, what is with the dependence on services? You can set modes manually, you know, not to mention kick and such
[02:40] <gnomefreak> we do?
[02:42] <Minataku> Yeah, I've never seen a manual ban once, and one person in here also was unaware that channel operators can set channel modes manually
[02:42] <gnomefreak> yes you have
[02:42] <gnomefreak> if you have been around more than a week you have
[02:43] <gnomefreak> brb
[02:44] <Minataku> Ah
[02:44] <Minataku> Sorry about that, I tend to ramble sometimes
[03:49] <ubotu> In ubotu, dimeo said:  what is the command prompt
[03:52] <eff> jenda,  ping
[03:54] <eff> any staffer around... having troubles with my nick... I'm effie_jayx
[04:20] <DBO> jenda, poke poke squeak squeak you get the idea
[04:20] <Jucato> heh :)
[05:26] <nalioth> malt can be considered banned in any channel you wish
[05:28] <nalioth> here is the reason:  1170390283 22:24 -!- MalevolenT [n=Malt@DCC.SEND.startkeylogger.000.telephreak.org]  has quit [K-lined]     just exploited ##windows
[05:33] <Amaranth> DBO: Can you give me access in #ubuntu-xgl?
[05:34] <DBO> Amaranth, you would need to talk to one of the channel contacts for that (that was the rule as Im aware of it)
[05:35] <Amaranth> i thought we decided 30 access meant channel contact?
[05:36] <DBO> I didnt hear that if we did, you'll have to ask one of the others
[05:47] <Amaranth> DBO: In that case can you edit the topic to point out that the last message in there is for beryl? I'm quite happy to support compiz git. :)
[05:56] <nalioth> no, you can go back to sleep, tonyyarusso
[05:56] <tonyyarusso> nalioth: soon...
[06:02] <tonyyarusso> nalioth: are there server problems atm?
[06:03] <tonyyarusso> User claiming they can't connect.
[06:03] <nalioth> tonyyarusso: not that i'm aware of
[06:03] <tonyyarusso> hrm, okay
[06:03] <nalioth> i always like to see folks here claiming they can't connect.
[06:04] <tonyyarusso> This one's on AIM.  ;)
[07:18] <nalioth> can anyone explain what all xgl / aiglx / compiz / beryl and all that is about?
[07:20] <Jucato> eye candy :)
[07:20] <nalioth> i need a composite desktop and have no idea how to proceed
[07:20] <tonyyarusso> Looking pretty.
[07:20] <tonyyarusso> lol
[07:20] <mneptok> "need?"
[07:20] <Jucato> compiz and beryl (which is a fork of beryl) are compositing window managers
[07:20] <tonyyarusso> "I need a composite desktop"...
[07:20] <nalioth> unfortunately, some folks are writing programs that only run on composite desktops
[07:20] <Jucato> now why would they do that...
[07:21] <mneptok> Jucato: GL rendering engines for X
[07:21] <Jucato> mneptok: that's AIGLX right?
[07:21] <mneptok> XGL/AIGLX
[07:22] <Jucato> yeah. I mean the difference between them. All I know is that AIGLX is officially in X.org... or something like that
[07:23] <Amaranth> XGL is an X server that does all drawing using OpenGL and runs on top of a normal X server
[07:23] <Amaranth> AIGLX basically lets your normal X server do that OpenGL drawing stuff :)
[07:23] <Jucato> aaaah
[07:23] <Jucato> ok. that sort of clears it up :)
[07:24] <nalioth> Amaranth: which one is easiest and most stable on dapper?
[07:24] <Amaranth> on dapper?
[07:24] <Amaranth> don't bother trying
[07:25] <Amaranth> XGL would be best but you need a newer XGL, xcomposite, and mesa than dapper has
[07:26] <mneptok> Jucato: remeber "AI" stands for "Accelerated *In*direct"
[07:26] <nalioth> so it doesn't work on dapper?
[07:26] <Jucato> mneptok: hm.. ok. thanks :)
[07:26] <Amaranth> nalioth: not really
[07:27] <Amaranth> nalioth: the hacky way compiz-quinn/beryl supported it broke upgrades to edgy unless you used update-manager (which had a special case coded in to unbreak this)
[07:27] <Amaranth> and if you mean the compiz stuff on help.ubuntu.com it's outdated, last time i checked
[07:27] <Amaranth> it was talking about that compiz-quinn/beryl stuff i just mentioned
[07:27] <nalioth> Amaranth: all of my upgrades have been broken.  i don't ever upgrade w/o an alternative install disc to bail me out
[07:28] <Amaranth> tonyyarusso: feisty is awesome like that, no?
[07:28] <tonyyarusso> Amaranth: yeah.  It only kinda works here though.
[07:28] <tonyyarusso> (compiz, not feisty)
[07:31] <Amaranth> mneptok: if it makes your CPU usage go up you've got a crappy GPU/driver :)
[07:31] <mneptok> uh huh
[07:32] <mneptok> or i need more Kool-Aid
[07:56] <jenda> DBO: pong
[07:57] <DBO> jenda, squeak squeak squeak beryl cloak squeak squeak squeak
[07:58] <jenda> right :)
[07:58] <DBO> there might be cornbread in this for you
[07:58] <DBO> keep that in mind
[07:58] <DBO> *wink wink*
[07:58] <mneptok> please god don't let that be a euphemism
[07:58] <DBO> only you...
[07:59] <mneptok> willys_fueguino: heya.
[07:59] <willys_fueguino> ;-)
[07:59] <willys_fueguino> how are you mneptok??
[08:00] <mneptok> not bad
[08:00] <mneptok> willys_fueguino: is #ubuntu-lat going to become an official channel?
[08:01] <willys_fueguino> mneptok: mmm... I hope so...
[08:01] <willys_fueguino> mneptok: but I'm op on a LoCo channel
[08:01] <willys_fueguino> mneptok: can't sleep??
[08:02] <mneptok> willys_fueguino: these are my working hours.
[08:02] <willys_fueguino> :-O
[08:04] <willys_fueguino> *phobia
[08:17] <jenda> good morning
[08:18] <jenda> DBO: lol :)
[08:18] <willys_fueguino> jenda: :-D
[08:18] <jenda> DBO: I hope that wasn't metaphorical
[08:19] <DBO> jenda, no Ill bake you corn bread
[08:19] <DBO> I mean how hard can it be
[08:20] <nalioth> DBO: if you're a yankee, quite diffecult
[08:20] <DBO> hehe yankee...
[08:20] <willys_fueguino> X'D
[08:21] <nixternal> however I listen to country music and classic rock, beyond the span of intelligence for a Yankee
[08:21] <tonyyarusso> (anybody want to submit two things to Digg and/or SD?)
[08:21] <nixternal> eww
[08:21] <DBO> country music is the lowest form of all musics...
[08:21] <DBO> anything lower is of course not music
[08:21] <nixternal> DBO: NEVAH!
[08:22] <nixternal> do you know what happens when you play country music backwards?
[08:23] <nixternal> you have money, your wife, dog, and kids come back, and your pick-up starts!
[08:23] <DBO> and george bush is impeached
[08:23] <nixternal> NEVAH!
[08:24] <willys_fueguino> X'D
[08:24] <nixternal> I have no idea where that "nevah" crap come from, but I have done it now a few times today
[08:24] <DBO> stupid murrine engine is broken
[08:24] <tonyyarusso> (my and Dave Sullivan's most recent Planet posts respectively being the items in question ;)  )
[08:24] <nixternal> I just noticed someone ported that to KDE and it looks rather sharp, still a few bugs, but it is on its way
[08:25] <nixternal> tonyyarusso: ahh ya, that is rockin', however I think I would toss road flares onto that ice house :)
[08:25] <tonyyarusso> nixternal: Hehe, we're going for the peaceful but devious approach instead
[08:25] <nixternal> it would be funny though, when it melts, use it to your benefit
[08:26] <nixternal> well see running Vista requires dual core processors to run beyond their max in turn over heating, and those 4 computers they had melted the place
[08:26] <nixternal> Ubuntu on the other hand, hell you don't even need a heat sink, pour beer on your machine!
[08:26] <tonyyarusso> lol
[08:26] <nixternal> You Canucks and your Molson, probably don't want to waste any :)
[08:27] <nixternal> haha, my best friend lives in a hick town outside of Toronto, and when he comes and visits he loads up his suit case with Molson wrapped in all of his socks
[09:11] <tonyyarusso> are ubotu's planet announcements broken?
[09:11] <tonyyarusso> %config plugins.rss
[09:11] <ubotu> True
[09:11] <tonyyarusso> %config #ubuntu-offtopic plugins.rss
[09:13] <Mez> %config list plugins.rss
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[09:14] <ubotu> 
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[09:14] <ubotu> ubuntusecurity thefridge planetubuntu
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[09:14] <Mez> %rss planetubuntu
[09:14] <ubotu> An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
[09:14] <Mez> %rss ubuntusecurity
[09:15] <Mez> seems the planet RSSis broken
[09:16] <Mez> @lart 35 GazzaK
[09:17] <Mez> @lart 36 GazzaK
[09:17] <GazzaK> @pity 10 Mez
[09:18] <kgoetz> o_0
[09:19] <GazzaK> yay
[09:19] <mneptok> many happy returns of the day
[09:20] <GazzaK> :-)))
[09:20] <tonyyarusso> oh noes
[09:20] <GazzaK> sooo..... whats my birthday surprise then
[09:22] <jenda> GazzaK: I'd give you a birthday surprize, but I don't have ops here.
[09:22] <jenda> So I'll have to stick with:
[09:22] <jenda> @lart 28 GazzaK
[09:22] <kgoetz> poor hobbsee :\
[09:22] <jenda> Damn, would I hate to have my name in a lart.
[09:23] <jenda> Imagine getting beeped anytime someone wants to thwack GazzaK
[09:23] <GazzaK> hehe
[09:23] <GazzaK> [idea]  @pity xx Jenda spanks %user% with a pink tutu
[09:24] <GazzaK> awwww
[09:24] <jenda> 
[09:24] <GazzaK> [idea]  @pity xx Jenda spanks %user% with a pink tutu 
[09:24] <GazzaK> there, thats better
[09:25] <GazzaK> cable?
[09:25] <jenda> LAN
[09:25] <kgoetz> catagory 5 :)
[09:25] <kgoetz> s/:)/?
[09:25] <GazzaK> I have hundreds here jenda
[09:26] <jenda> kgoetz: wow, that's some finger-memory, to typo to a smiley :)
[09:26] <jenda> GazzaK: well, I have tons here too, but none are 15 m.
[09:26] <kgoetz> jenda: no kidding... i'm way to happy ;P
[09:27] <GazzaK> jenda, I have two reels of cable, I could of made you one :p
[09:27] <GazzaK> mind you, my crimping tool is off on loan at the mo
[09:29] <DBO> its GazzaKs bday?
[09:29] <GazzaK> tis too
[09:29] <GazzaK> er
[09:29] <popey> old git
[09:29] <GazzaK> yep
[09:29] <DBO> how old?
[09:30] <GazzaK> 21 again
[09:30] <GazzaK> x9
[09:30] <DBO> 9th 21st birthday
[09:30] <GazzaK> yep
[09:31] <GazzaK> why O why do I get scared when people Op themselves in -offtopic!!!
[10:04] <tonyyarusso> %rss planetubuntu
[10:04] <ubotu> An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
[10:04] <Jucato> O.o
[10:04] <tonyyarusso> weird.  It just annc'd one too.
[10:05] <tonyyarusso> Maybe my URL is too long :P
[10:18] <elkbuntu> Seveas, fyi: <tonyyarusso> %rss planetubuntu
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[10:19] <Seveas> elkbuntu, I know
[10:19] <Seveas> supybot is broken
[10:20] <elkbuntu> Seveas, no prob, since there's no way im going to send my mindreading skills into *your* brain, i figured repeating was no harm ;)
[10:20] <Seveas> hehe
[10:21] <jenda> 5 AM UTC!!!
[10:22] <Seveas> hehe
[10:22] <jenda> At least I now have ink ;)
[10:22] <elkbuntu> jenda, a short blunt GazzaK?
[10:22] <jenda> I can safely escape from predators.
[10:22] <elkbuntu> as opposed to a long pointy hobbsee ;)
[10:22] <jenda> elkbuntu: I don't know if he's short, and even if he were, I wouldn't be the one to point it out ;)
[10:23] <mneptok> "i said 'all the way'!"
[10:23] <elkbuntu> jenda, nor i -- ask seveas. however i felt the inclusion of the descriptor necessary for the integrity of the pun
[10:23] <jenda> 
[10:35] <GazzaK> I am a little short too :'(
[10:35] <GazzaK> only 5'8"
[10:38] <elkbuntu> im 5'1" or something like that
[10:38] <jenda> hehe
[10:38] <jenda> 167 cm :)
[10:38] <GazzaK> whats that then?
[10:38] <jenda> it's actually 1.67 m
[10:38] <elkbuntu> GazzaK, like 5"5
[10:38] <elkbuntu> err 5'5"
[10:38] <GazzaK> ahh, perfect kissing height then
[10:38] <jenda> hehe
[10:39] <GazzaK> it was only a comment
[10:39] <GazzaK> Seveas, what did you learn yesterday then?
[10:39] <Seveas> GazzaK, that we should kick you more often
[10:40] <elkbuntu> lol
[10:41] <GazzaK> but you know I like it
[10:41] <GazzaK> seriously, is the course fun/
[10:42] <elkbuntu> regardless, it gives us precious no-gazzak milliseconds
[10:42] <GazzaK> awww
[10:42] <elkbuntu> hard to believe self kicking is actually a bug...
[10:43] <GazzaK> were you serious or not yesterday Seveas re -offtopic ops
[10:43] <elkbuntu> or, a re-classified bug
[10:43] <GazzaK> is self kicking like self harm?  can you get councelling?
[10:44] <Seveas> GazzaK, I was serious
[10:44] <elkbuntu> psychiatrists will happily take your money for counselling -- regardless of the need
[10:45] <GazzaK> Seveas, in that case, wooo
[10:45] <elkbuntu> Seveas, since the irccouncil currently doesnt exist at the moment, are you going to wait for that?
[10:45] <elkbuntu> s/currently//
[10:45] <GazzaK> is it like a birthday pressie?
[10:45] <Seveas> elkbuntu, I am
[10:46] <Seveas> GazzaK, when's your birthday?
[10:46] <jenda> Seveas: today
[10:46] <jenda> :)
[10:46] <elkbuntu> Seveas, i dont think even a single person has voted for me publicly, lol
[10:46] <Seveas> heh
[10:46] <mneptok> voted?
[10:46] <Seveas> elkbuntu, I have received private votes as well
[10:46] <mneptok> what are we voting for?
[10:47] <elkbuntu> Seveas, hence 'publicly'
[10:47] <Seveas> mneptok, votes for the IRC council -- see ubuntu-irc mailinglist
[10:47] <mneptok> Seveas: ah, haven't read the archives this week
[10:47] <Seveas> mneptok, the meeting this week was quite good
[10:47] <jenda> mneptok: oh be serious.
[10:48] <jenda> Who would vote for you?
[10:48] <mneptok> Seveas: i caught a lot is scrollback, but not 100%
[10:48] <Seveas> mneptok, you 'representative'... :)
[10:48] <jenda> 
[10:48] <mneptok> jenda: anyone that doesn't want to be DDoSed.
[10:48] <mneptok> >:)
[10:48] <Seveas> the only thing you represent is the canonical psych ward
[10:48] <elkbuntu> rofl
[10:48] <jenda> haha
[10:48] <GazzaK> hehe
[10:52] <GazzaK> looks normal mneptok
[10:52] <GazzaK> for you
[10:53] <mneptok> ook ook!
[10:53] <elkbuntu> http://www.degredo.net/ <-- rofl rofl rofl
[10:54] <mneptok> you have a black Jujube stuck to you.
[10:55] <mneptok> try not to roll on the floor, dear.
[10:55] <elkbuntu> lol
[10:55] <mneptok> that's better.
[10:56] <elkbuntu> ... WITH A VISTA CD
[10:56] <elkbuntu> s/cd/dvd/
[10:57] <jenda> rofl...
[10:58] <effie_jayx> lol
[10:59] <GazzaK> Seveas, [idea]  @pity 38 Jenda spanks $who with a pink tutu 
[10:59] <jenda> grrr
[11:00] <GazzaK> owww, I like that jenda growling at me :-)
[11:00] <elkbuntu> GazzaK, it's turning you on, isnt it
[11:01] <elkbuntu> jenda, i'd suggest dressing like his grandma, but well.. i dont know what ways he swings ;)
[11:01] <GazzaK> I'm sorry elkbuntu, I can neither confirm or deny such allegations
[11:01] <jenda> lol
[11:02] <mneptok> http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e182/budence/computerlife.jpg
[11:02] <mneptok> still turned on, birthday boy?
[11:03] <elkbuntu> that SO needs a "this might explode your brain" warning
[11:03] <Seveas> @lart add spanks $who with a pink tutu
[11:04] <mneptok> "this might explode elkbuntu's brain."
[11:04] <mneptok> there. stop whining. :)
[11:04] <elkbuntu> @lart add shows $who a photo of mneptok
[11:04] <elkbuntu> grr
[11:04] <Seveas> @lart add shows $who a photo of mneptok
[11:05] <elkbuntu> Seveas, i think ubugtu is having issues with me having a member cloak
[11:05] <elkbuntu> or something
[11:05] <Seveas> no
[11:06] <elkbuntu> what hostmask does he have me under then?
[11:06] <Seveas> I'm the only one who can add larts
[11:06] <elkbuntu> oh
[11:06] <elkbuntu> im misreading the error then
[11:06] <elkbuntu> and...
[11:06] <elkbuntu> but whyyyyyyy?
[11:08] <mneptok> if you're asking, you're part of the reason. ;)
[11:08] <elkbuntu> of course i am
[11:10] <elkbuntu> the dear man knows me too well
[11:11] <mneptok> holy fark.
[11:11] <mneptok> did a community member just call me a "dear man?"
[11:11] <elkbuntu> no
[11:11] <mneptok> are there 4 horemen in the sky?
[11:11] <elkbuntu> i was referring to seveas
[11:11] <mneptok> ohthankgawd
[11:12] <elkbuntu> who is of course, my favourite dutchman :) *wipes nose*
[11:12] <Seveas> I guess you don't know other dutchmen :)
[11:13] <elkbuntu> Seveas, i do actually. the other one i know by more than casual aquaintance is a mcse
[11:13] <mneptok> no, it's just that van Gogh smells funny
[11:13] <elkbuntu> so you manage to outrank him thanks to that :
[11:14] <mneptok> there's always ubuntu_demon.
[11:14] <mneptok> he's YADG
[11:14] <Seveas> /cs k mneptok no swearing!
[11:14] <elkbuntu> ,,,
[11:14] <elkbuntu> yadg?
[11:14] <mneptok> Yet Another Dutch Guy
[11:15] <elkbuntu> i hate four letter acronyms as well.
[11:15] <elkbuntu> Seveas, also, cafeugo is in -au ;)
[11:15] <elkbuntu> brb, for the *ines
[11:15] <Seveas> cafuego is not bad :)
[11:20] <GazzaK> mneptok, thats horrid...  I step away for a bit and come back to see that, eww
[11:21] <GazzaK> Seveas, you forgot the 
[11:21] <GazzaK> @pity 37 fred
[11:21] <GazzaK> @pity 38 fred
[11:21] <GazzaK> hehe
[11:21] <Seveas> @ignore add GazzaK
[11:21] <GazzaK> :'(
[11:22] <GazzaK> and to think, I just got another ubuntu user :-)
[11:38] <apokryphos> 5 AM :O
[11:42] <mneptok> ooo!
[11:43] <mneptok> 0500UTC!
[11:43] <mneptok> yay
[11:43] <GazzaK> 5am in the morning doesn't exist
[11:44] <Seveas> mneptok, that's the start of your shift, isn't it?
[11:45] <apokryphos> GazzaK: it's the time you get chucked out of the club and begin the cold wait for the first train
[11:45] <GazzaK> ahhh
[11:45] <mneptok> Seveas: it is
[11:45] <Seeker`> there is a 5am at night, but not 5am in the morning
[11:46] <mneptok> (or, rather, 1 hour into it)
[11:46] <GazzaK> Seeker`, agree
[11:46] <GazzaK> whats main point 3 about?
[11:47] <apokryphos> talking over the issue, I gather
[11:47] <GazzaK> I must have missed that
[11:50] <jenda> Right... so I want to complain to my ISP because I have a crappy connection...
[11:50] <mneptok> I AM AS PRETTY AND SOFT AS A MAY MORNING!
[11:51] <jenda> ...but it turns out my ISP has discontinued my phone line...
[11:52] <apokryphos> Seeker`: /msg ubotu lamp  ;-)
[11:53] <GazzaK> jenda, carmageddon
[11:53] <GazzaK> jenda, take up shooting, like me, it really helps
[11:58] <mneptok> Jesus saves, but Gretzky gets the rebound and SCOOOOOOOOOOOORES!
[11:59] <elkbuntu> lol
[12:09] <jenda> GazzaK: I don't see carmageddon on Ubuntu :)
[12:37] <jenda> hey there PriceChild
[12:37] <PriceChild> he jenda
[12:37] <PriceChild> *hey
[01:37] <GazzaK> jenda, thats 'cos it is a old windows game
[01:37] <GazzaK> hey pricey
[02:03] <PriceChild> hey GazzaK :)
[02:03] <PriceChild> Is it your birthday today GazzaK ?
[02:08] <ubotu> In #ubuntu, persen said: !fonts is not doing it for me :/
[02:09] <jenda> GazzaK: I know, and I loved it.
[02:09] <jenda> I enjoyed it most with the GazzaK mod, which replaced all the peeps with you.
[02:44] <GazzaK> jenda, you ain't right :p
[02:45] <GazzaK> PriceChild, yes :-)
[02:46] <PriceChild> happy bday GazzaK :)
[02:46] <GazzaK> thanks pricey
[03:29] <GazzaK> hi LjL
[03:29] <LjL> hi there
[03:30] <gnomefreak> happ birthday GazzaK
[03:30] <gnomefreak> +y
[03:30] <GazzaK> awww, thanks gnomefreak
[03:30] <gnomefreak> yw
[03:31] <GazzaK> Do I now have to be responsible?
[03:31] <LjL> why, are you 21 or something now?
[03:31] <GazzaK> 30!!!
[03:31] <LjL> then you had to be responsible several years ago :P
[03:32] <GazzaK> oops
[03:32] <jenda> GazzaK: but considering you already missed it, no reason to bother any more.
[03:32] <gnomefreak> yay i dont feel so old now
[03:32] <GazzaK> soo...  am I too late then, in that case, I'll forget being responsible and just wait till I go senile
[03:33] <GazzaK> gnomefreak, how old then?
[03:33] <gnomefreak> 30
[03:33] <GazzaK> me too, woo
[03:33] <GazzaK> but i'm 30 today, so that makes you older, old man
[03:34] <gnomefreak> GazzaK: yeah i have about 5 months or so
[03:34] <gnomefreak> until 31
[03:34] <gnomefreak> this seems backasswards
[03:35] <GazzaK> back ass what?
[03:35] <mneptok> wards
[03:37] <GazzaK> yeah, but what seems backasswards?
[03:38] <GazzaK> haha    <livingdaylight> Qball, It takes two to be gay?  <Qball> no, for loving.  <rauble> i dunno man, i've been getting by on 1 pretty ok :-/
[03:40] <Tm_T> Weird world this wifi-thing.
[03:40] <Tm_T> Didn't have wlan stuff in my pc until today, should learn something about this.
[03:42] <mneptok> it's like wired networking, but without the wires.
[03:46] <gnomefreak> anyone speak spanish (i think it is)
[03:47] <GazzaK> the Spaniards do
[03:47] <mneptok> los pesces de babel
[03:48] <gnomefreak> anyone know what this means (el lugar donde se encuentra tu archivo ejemplo
[03:49] <GazzaK> the place where is your file example
[03:49] <GazzaK> says babelfish
[03:49] <mneptok> the location of your example archive
[03:50] <gnomefreak> hmmm
[03:50] <gnomefreak> ty
[03:50] <GazzaK> mneptok, Pienso te quiero, tengo por favor mis perritos
[03:50] <mneptok> quando tu chupa mi culo.
[03:51] <LjL>  /topic #ubuntu-ops Welcome to #ubuntu-offtopic!
[03:52] <GazzaK> sorry LjL
[03:52] <tonyyarusso> We being offtopic now?  /me sends vibes
[03:52] <tonyyarusso> *goooo reeaadd plaaannneetttt*
[03:52] <tonyyarusso> :P
[03:52] <tonyyarusso> And optionally, add yourself to the digg count.
[07:04] <junk1> i was banned from #ubuntu i dont no why an i asked to be unbaned an was told no i was told come in here an ask
[07:04] <gnomefreak> junk1: who told you no?
[07:04] <junk1> seveas
[07:05] <junk1> he said come in here an ask why i was banned
[07:05] <gnomefreak> well you would need to talk to him
[07:05] <junk1> i did he sent me here
[07:05] <gnomefreak> Seveas: you around?
[07:05] <junk1> ill be good i just want to get back in there there nice
[07:07] <nalioth> when were you banned, junk1 ?
[07:07] <junk1> its been a little wile i just got up an runnin kinda
[07:07] <nalioth> same nick?
[07:08] <junk1> i probable bounced in an out or something
[07:08] <junk1> yes
[07:08] <gnomefreak> i dont see a ban set
[07:08] <tonyyarusso> Nor do I
[07:08] <junk1> junk1 or 2 or 3 befor i got it to say junk1 is me
[07:09] <nalioth> i don't see it, either
[07:09] <junk1> im lost
[07:09] <tonyyarusso> junk1: You sure you're actually banned?  try joining again...
[07:09] <junk1> ok if i cant ill come back in 1 sec
[07:09] <gnomefreak> i searched junk 1-3 and hostmask dont see a ban at all
[07:10] <Seveas> I tried /cs u junk1
[07:10] <Seveas> nothing was removed
[07:10] <junk1> now i am lost
[07:10] <Seveas> and it catches all matching bans :)
[07:10] <junk1> i was not alowed in b4 really i wasnt
[07:10] <junk1> it let me in though
[07:11] <tonyyarusso> heh, all righty
[07:11] <junk1>  for #ubuntu  any sorry to bother you
[07:12] <junk1> anyway
[07:12] <junk1> bye
[07:23] <willys_fueguino> hello everyone ;-)
[07:24] <nalioth> hola
[07:24] <willys_fueguino> Seveas: ping?
[07:24] <willys_fueguino> nalioth: :-O hola como andas?
[07:24] <willys_fueguino> :-P
[07:25] <Seveas> willys_fueguino, ?
[07:26] <willys_fueguino> Seveas: now that you're here I would like to apologie for the away message / nick change that cost me a ban
[07:26] <willys_fueguino> It won't happen again ;-)
[07:26] <Seveas> it's ok,the ban is just to make you notice that it's bad :)
[07:26] <willys_fueguino> *Public apology
[07:26] <Seveas> are you still banned anywhere
[07:27] <willys_fueguino> Seveas: ok then that issue is p*pretty* cleared for my now
[07:27] <willys_fueguino> I think not but thanks...
[07:28] <Seveas> we're not too bad in here :)
[07:29] <willys_fueguino> hahahah that's what everyone says :-
[07:29] <Amaranth> Seveas: can you give me access in #ubuntu-xgl?
[07:30] <Seveas> Amaranth, if you edit the IrcTeam/Scope wikipage to include that channel ;)
[07:32] <Amaranth> done ;)
[07:34] <PriceChild> Uuu so you're including us in -xgl under your scope now? :)
[07:35] <willys_fueguino> xD
[07:35] <Amaranth> PriceChild: it's where we send people asking about compiz/beryl
[07:36] <willys_fueguino> SportChick: jajajjaja X'D
[07:36] <Seveas> PriceChild, -xgl was mine anyway
[07:36] <PriceChild> hehe ok :)
[07:36] <Seveas> we should still rename that channel to #ubuntu-effects of something
[07:37] <PriceChild> I just never thought it was really under proper ubuntu-irc control seen as I got given ops in there :)
[07:37] <Seveas> because it covers sooooo much more
[07:37] <apokryphos> I thought that too
[07:37] <PriceChild> hehe yeah
[07:37] <PriceChild> people are just used to the name though :)
[07:37] <apokryphos> the team doesn't use it much
[07:37] <jenda> there's an #ubuntu-desktop-effects I think
[07:37] <apokryphos> and they can use -effects-devel if they have to
[07:37] <Seveas> jenda, that's a devel like channel
[07:37] <Seveas> ah
[07:37] <jenda> nope
[07:37] <Amaranth> i've been talking about renaming it forever
[07:37] <jenda> but something like that.
[07:37] <apokryphos> so let's do it now =)
[07:38] <Amaranth> and #ubuntu-desktop-effects is a dead channel
[07:38] <Amaranth> but is too long to type out :)
[07:38] <PriceChild> Amaranth, yeah but people'll just use #ubuntu-xgl and get redirected :P
[07:38] <Amaranth> heh
[07:38] <apokryphos> are people really talking about -desktop-effects here or -effects?
[07:42] <Amaranth> so, want to hijack #ubuntu-effects then?
[07:42] <Seveas> nh
[07:42] <Seveas> neh
[07:42] <Amaranth> the only use i've ever seen for any of the ubuntu-desktop-effects team IRC channels was a couple beryl developers speaking french
[07:42] <apokryphos> yeah, good idea to speak to dbo first though
[07:42] <Seveas> let's wait for dbo to wake up
[07:42] <apokryphos> there's very rarely any talk in -effects, yeah
[07:43] <PriceChild> Amaranth, why is it there's more french beryl users than anyone else?!
[07:44] <Amaranth> I would think gnomefreak would be the one to talk to, seeing how #ubuntu-effects is supposed to be the official channel for a team he owns
[07:44] <Seveas> hehe
[07:56] <willys_fueguino> I have a question here: The mute command it's just /mute nick??
[07:57] <willys_fueguino> (can't make that work on konversation)
[07:57] <apokryphos> depends on your client
[07:57] <tonyyarusso> depends on your client / script
[07:57] <tonyyarusso> /aq here
[07:57] <tonyyarusso> I think LjL uses Konversation?
[07:57] <willys_fueguino> tonyyarusso: you're on Konversation?
[07:57] <apokryphos> the raw command is: /mode channel +q someuser
[07:57] <tonyyarusso> willys_fueguino: no, irssi
[07:57] <apokryphos> or /mode channel +b %someuser
[07:57] <willys_fueguino> ohhh I can use the /mode command
[07:58] <willys_fueguino> just to mute someone... +q right??
[07:58] <apokryphos> right
[07:58] <apokryphos> it *might* be /quiet someuser in Konversation..
[07:58] <apokryphos> if not, you can make an alias
[07:59] <nalioth> apokryphos: 'quiet' is a freenode thing
[07:59] <willys_fueguino> mm.... +q == ban
[07:59] <nalioth> apokryphos: i doubt it's built into any clients
[07:59] <apokryphos> hm, ok
[07:59] <willys_fueguino> nalioth: but then the question: Can any op use this feature or just freenode staffers?
[08:00] <nalioth> willys_fueguino: it's available for any channel operator
[08:03] <PriceChild> willys_fueguino, +q isn't a ban... join #pricechild and I'll show you :)
[08:03] <willys_fueguino> mm,.. I do /silence HorD and tells me No such nick /channel
[08:03] <willys_fueguino> PriceChild: ok
[08:22] <LjL> willys_fueguino: /mode #channel +q hostmask is the command in konversation. however it works with the nickname, too, instead of the hostmask, and you can make an alias such as /mute = /mode %c +q (Settings / Configure Konversation / Command aliases)
[08:24] <LjL> Seveas: +1 for -xgl channel rename, i've had a few people yelling at me when redirected because "did you not listen? i want to use aiglx not xgl!"
[08:25] <willys_fueguino> LjL: until "such as" I followed you... but when /mute blabalbla I got lost :-S
[08:26] <LjL> willys_fueguino, Settings / Configure Konversation / Command aliases, click on "New", and type  mute  in the "Alias" textbox, and  /mode %c +q  in the "Replacement" textbox
[08:27] <LjL> then use /mute nickname to mute
[08:28] <willys_fueguino> :-O
[08:28] <willys_fueguino> LjL: uff this will be very useful...
[08:28] <willys_fueguino> thanx
[08:29] <willys_fueguino> (I used x-chat since I started on this)
[08:42] <gnomefreak> Amaranth: ?
[08:44] <gnomefreak> desktop-effect channel is gonna be the new -xgl channel if i ever get a hold of seveas and dbo at the same time and they both have a few minutes
[08:45] <apokryphos> ok, so we're just waiting for DBO
[08:45] <gnomefreak> yes i had asked him a few weeks ago about moving it
[08:45] <gnomefreak> hes been really busy iirc
[08:46] <apokryphos> and what did he think?
[08:46] <gnomefreak> he said to do it but he didnt have time
[08:46] <gnomefreak> something about moving access list over
[08:46] <gnomefreak> i think
[08:46] <Amaranth> if he said to do it then it can be done easily
[08:46] <apokryphos> cool; we can do it. We'll just wait till Seveas is back now, then.
[08:46] <apokryphos> ok, dinner
[08:46] <Amaranth> just need him to give someone 30 access if he doesn't have time
[08:47] <apokryphos> gnomefreak's got 30
[08:47] <gnomefreak> in where?
[08:47] <apokryphos> -effects
[08:47] <Amaranth> good to go then?
[08:47] <gnomefreak> oh
[08:47] <gnomefreak> yes i would say so. we would have to set a foward from -xgl too
[08:47] <apokryphos> back in a few
[08:47] <Amaranth> gnomefreak: that's no problem
[08:54] <gnomefreak> jenda is staff right?
[08:54] <SportChick> gnomefreak: yes he is
[08:54] <gnomefreak> ty
[09:01] <jenda> yep
[09:01] <jenda> SportChick: jeez... do you have a highlight on 'staff' or 'jenda' or 'is'?
[09:02] <SportChick> jenda: whenever I'm on stats p, I have hilight on staff and stats
[09:02] <jenda> ;)
[09:02] <jenda> cool
[09:02] <SportChick> jenda: I have it as part of my script
[09:02] <SportChick> turns the hiilight on and off when I sign on and off stats p
[09:03] <jenda> irssi has cool features, I'll admit ;)
[09:06] <SportChick> jenda: <3 irssi
[09:12] <apokryphos> gnomefreak: ok, so let's do it
[09:14] <apokryphos> Amaranth: you here?
[09:14] <LjL> dynamic highlights, wow, that sounds useful
[09:15] <LjL> (as would be per-channel highlights, but i guess real clients have those)
[09:16] <gnomefreak> ok how should we do this?
[09:16] <apokryphos> simple, announcement in the channel and then kicks :P
[09:16] <gnomefreak> i would like a smooth transfer if at all possible
[09:16] <LjL> kicks aren't smooth? :P
[09:17] <LjL> should i start changing the bot factoids, in the meanwhile?
[09:17] <apokryphos> yeah, thanks
[09:17] <apokryphos> gnomefreak: we'll make the announcement, but we can't hang around to wait
[09:18] <apokryphos> LjL: argh, ubotu won't be in there
[09:18] <apokryphos> could you make ubotwo join?
[09:19] <gnomefreak> is Seveas still around to join ubotu?
[09:19] <apokryphos> guess not
[09:19] <gnomefreak> LjL: is your bot online atm?
[09:20] <LjL> gnomefreak: not when you asked
[09:20] <gnomefreak> can we get him in #ubuntu-effects until we can get a hold of seveas
[09:20] <LjL> done
[09:20] <apokryphos> thanks LjL =)
[09:20] <gnomefreak> ty
[09:24] <apokryphos> cool, all done :)
[09:24] <apokryphos> ok, I'm out for now
[09:24] <gnomefreak> its moved now i can play with my autojoin again
[09:25] <apokryphos> 8)
[09:29] <gnomefreak> !xgl
[09:29] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:29] <gnomefreak> oh goodie
[09:45] <LjL> no channel-specific factoids on ubotwo, sorry
[09:45] <LjL> at least - not by simply calling them, you can add -#ubuntu-effects to the factoid
[09:45] <PriceChild> Not good enough LjL :P
[09:46] <LjL> sorry but can't fix now, going out :P
[09:47] <PriceChild> was only sarcasm :)
[09:47] <PriceChild> hmm all the factoids for -#ubuntu-xgl will be useless now and need to be moved? :(
[09:57] <nalioth> Seveas: may be able to find-and-replace in the configs, PriceChild
[09:58] <PriceChild> Sounds good :)
[10:08] <gnomefreak> PriceChild: the xgl is for all composites now. people got used to using and callling it xgl and some people are using beryl-xgl on dapper :(
[10:12] <PriceChild> gnomefreak, yeah I know :)
[10:13] <PriceChild> gnomefreak, shall I set up a forward from -xgl to -effects ?
[10:13] <gnomefreak> already done
[10:13] <PriceChild> It isn't...
[10:13] <PriceChild> I just joined...
[10:13] <gnomefreak> apokryphos: said it was
[10:13] <PriceChild> nope...
[10:13] <gnomefreak> PriceChild: yes please do and remove anyone in there
[10:18] <PriceChild> nalioth, gnomefreak sorted :D
[10:18] <gnomefreak> good :)
[10:18] <gnomefreak> ty nalioth
[10:18] <PriceChild> thanks :)
[10:31] <Seveas> nalioth, even better ;)
[10:32] <Seveas> %join #ubuntu-effects
[10:32] <Seveas> %config channel #ubuntu-xgl plugins.encyclopedia.database
[10:32] <ubotu> ubuntu
[10:32] <Seveas> ooh crap
[10:32] <Seveas> even worse
[10:32] <tonyyarusso> eh?
[10:32] <Seveas> ok, that needs some manual tweaking
[10:32] <Seveas> %config list plugins.encyclopedia
[10:32] <ubotu> #database, #fallbackdb, #searchorder, aptdir, datadir, fallbackchannel, logdir, notfoundmsg, packagelookup, public, and relaychannel
[10:34] <gnomefreak> ty seveas for joining the bot
[10:55] <willys_fueguino> Seveas: ping?
[10:55] <Seveas> willys_fueguino, ?
[10:55] <willys_fueguino> Seveas: there's a web page with ubotu factoids right??
[10:56] <Seveas> yes
[10:56] <Seveas> !help
[10:56] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:56] <Seveas> !bot
[10:56] <willys_fueguino> I wan't to "translate" some factoids to add the "spanish version" to my bot
[10:57] <gnomefreak> willys_fueguino: theres abunch of them go to the first link given above and have fun ;)
[10:57] <Seveas> sort by popularity :)
[10:57] <willys_fueguino> gnomefreak: hahahha I will ;-)
[10:57] <willys_fueguino> :-O
[10:58] <willys_fueguino> popularity == times called?
[10:58] <Seveas> yup
[10:59] <willys_fueguino> uff... I can't see how many factoids it haves
[11:00] <willys_fueguino> (LOTS of them)
[11:00] <Seveas> sqlite> select count(*) from facts;
[11:00] <Seveas> 1358
[11:01] <willys_fueguino> :-( ...
[11:02] <willys_fueguino> I'll have pretty much "fun" then...
[11:04] <willys_fueguino> mm... if I translate some of those factoids could I load the translations to launchpad/wiki ??
[11:05] <maxamillion> are there any core devs in here atm?
[11:05] <Seveas> no
[11:05] <maxamillion> bah ... ok, thanks
[11:05] <Seveas> maxamillion, they don't hang out in here
[11:05] <Seveas> willys_fueguino, why not?
[11:05] <Seveas> factoids are free :)
[11:05] <maxamillion> Seveas: i thought hobsee was a core dev
[11:06] <Seveas> maxamillion, oooh good on
[11:06] <Seveas> one*
[11:06] <maxamillion> i guess not
[11:06] <Seveas> I keep forgetting that
[11:06] <maxamillion> wait, she is?
[11:06] <somerville32> No, she isn't
[11:06] <maxamillion> now i'm confused
[11:06] <maxamillion> oh ok
[11:09] <ubotu> In #kubuntu, faLUCE said: ubotu: ok but which is the corresponding line that i shuold add to the repos list, in adept, corresponding to /pub/ubuntu/archive/pool/universe/ ?
[11:09] <somerville32> !bot > faLUCE
[11:09] <willys_fueguino> jjajajjaja
[11:09] <willys_fueguino> X'D
[11:10] <willys_fueguino> Noob question: when ubotu reports here with messages like that, it's saying that *that* factoid its getting stored??
[11:11] <PriceChild> willys_fueguino, no... just that someone suggested the change
[11:11] <PriceChild> willys_fueguino, only a few people have access to change things :)
[11:12] <MuffY> yo
[11:12] <gnomefreak> PriceChild: did you attempt hte kiba-dock build?
[11:12] <gnomefreak> hi muffy
[11:12] <MuffY> i just god banned for saying the f word
[11:12] <MuffY> i copied it with a quote
[11:12] <MuffY> how long will the ban last?
[11:12] <PriceChild> Seveas, ^
[11:12] <gnomefreak> !language
[11:12] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:12] <gnomefreak> :)
[11:13] <MuffY> hey gnomefreak =)
[11:13] <gnomefreak> MuffY: that goes for all ubuntu channels :)
[11:13] <MuffY> you ops?
[11:13] <MuffY> :|
[11:13] <MuffY> wow
[11:13] <PriceChild> gnomefreak, I haven't yet... need to use ssh tunneling to get around proxy for cvs so I'll try this evening
[11:13] <gnomefreak> yes im a little bit of everything
[11:13] <PriceChild> MuffY, everyone here with voice is an op somewhere or other :)
[11:13] <MuffY> but do you know how long it'll last?
[11:13] <willys_fueguino> oks.... when I'll go start translating the factoids.... see you later folks ;-)
[11:13] <gnomefreak> PriceChild: im gonna try it again on feisty but checkinstall fails to build the .deb
[11:13] <willys_fueguino> *well
[11:13] <gnomefreak> so i might have to do it in pbuilder
[11:14] <PriceChild> MuffY, I've pinged Seve as for you, he made the ban so he'll get back to you when he has time
[11:14] <MuffY> ok
[11:14] <MuffY> ty, PriceChild
[11:16] <MuffY> so this is where banned people go
[11:16] <gnomefreak> not always
[11:16] <MuffY> you can be banned from here?
[11:16] <MuffY> that would officially suck =p
[11:17] <Seveas> /ban MuffY it does :)
[11:17] <MuffY> ah, seveas
[11:17] <Seveas> MuffY, behave in the future please
[11:17] <MuffY> so you are the big bad mod =p
[11:17] <MuffY> yeah, sorry
[11:17] <MuffY> i have to watch my copy pasting
[11:17] <Seveas> MuffY, no, the big bad one is gnomefreak
[11:18] <gnomefreak> ;)
[11:18] <MuffY> ah ok
[11:18] <Seveas> I'm the small evil one
[11:18] <MuffY> a wolf in sheeps clothes
[11:18] <Seveas> PriceChild, is the weird one
[11:18] <MuffY> yay for PriceChild!
[11:18] <somerville32> : )
[11:18] <PriceChild> Who's talking about me?
[11:18] <PriceChild> :)
[11:18] <MuffY> the small evil mod
[11:19] <PriceChild> ah I'm the wierd one... why am I weird? :)
[11:19] <MuffY> i dunno
[11:19] <MuffY> Seveas said so =p
[11:19] <PriceChild> I suppose I'll live with one :P
[11:19] <MuffY> i i didn;t dare to question him
[11:19] <PriceChild> yup.. therefore gospel
[11:19] <PriceChild> At least I have a title :)
[11:20] <MuffY> i have one too:
[11:24] <MuffY> i think i'll leave here =o
[11:25] <MuffY> thanks for reminding me on the family thing ;)
[12:00] <SecrethX> hmm.. apparently im banned in #ubuntu because I did an /ame, but I didnt even know that was forbidden.. so I say sorry and Im asking here if my ban can be removed :o
[12:02] <nalioth> SecrethX: when was this?
[12:02] <SecrethX> nalioth, yesterday
[12:02] <nalioth> i see. ban evasion, too
[12:03] <SecrethX> nalioth, yes because I didnt knew why I was banned
[12:03] <nalioth> you'll have to wait for seveas
[12:03] <SecrethX> nalioth, I know that, im trying to contact him here :P
[12:04] <nalioth> SecrethX: he's not around currently, you can pull up a chair and wait
[12:04] <SecrethX> nalioth, no problem :)
[12:05] <Seveas> mneptok, so how's woody doing?
[12:06] <SecrethX> Hi Seveas, can my ban in ubuntu be removed please? :o
[12:06] <SecrethX> (I hereby apologise too..)
[12:09] <grte> Hello, would anyone be able to help me out with a problem with #ubuntu-offtopic?
[12:10] <PriceChild> what's up grte ?
[12:10] <PriceChild> SecrethX, hehe wrong way round :P
[12:11] <grte> Well, awhile ago I accidentally got myself banned.
[12:11] <grte> I had an irssi script which used pi in various ways, and I forgot the syntax.
[12:11] <grte> So, I ended up typing /pi, which is apparently an irssi shortcut to ping everybody in the channel.
[12:11] <SecrethX> PriceChild, what do you mean?
[12:11] <grte> After which, I was autobanned.
[12:12] <grte> I was wondering if it would be possible to get the ban revoked, it was completely accidental.
[12:12] <PriceChild> SecrethX, as in you should apolgise.. then ask for forgiveness :P
[12:12] <SecrethX> PriceChild, oh yeah
[12:13] <nalioth> grte: go and sin no more  :)
[12:13] <grte> nalioth: Thanks muchly.
[12:15] <SecrethX> thanks
[12:17] <nalioth> bots are among us
[12:18] <nalioth> #ubuntu-unregged is open for business
[12:18] <PriceChild> :)
[12:19] <nalioth> Seveas: these change nicks
[12:19] <nalioth> Seveas: we've been chasing them and killing them
[12:19] <Seveas> ah ok
[12:22] <tonyyarusso> aw man....