[12:01] <eck090> ok ty
[12:01] <Lars_G> Please?
[12:01] <Lars_G> ehem. HELP :), I want to install the new libxine, but I tried a unstable deb and of course it failed on dependencies. trouble is, now if I do any apt-get it still wants to install it. and if I do apt-get -f install it will try to remove my current xine and all dependents (like amarok)... any way to make apt forget about libxine for now withotu removing my current one?
[12:01] <dcordes> LjL: ok. i will take a closer look on the shared key system. it is anyways important for me because i do a lot ssh for personal use
[12:01] <variant> eck090: useradd -m -G users,audio usernamehere
[12:01] <wonderpoop> sigh
[12:01] <variant> eck090: if you want sudo access then do useradd -m -G users,audio,admin usernamhere
[12:02] <arron> variant: you got any links to tutorials on how to get the libre drivers
[12:03] <variant> arron: hold on a mo, nearly done lol
[12:03] <arron> ok
[12:04] <variant> arron: ok, have you tried to install fglrx already?>
[12:04] <mzuverink> Suddly my external hdd wont allow me to write to it, how can i fix this?
[12:05] <arron> yep
[12:05] <arron> Variant: yeh i have
[12:05] <variant> arron: ok, then your xorg.conf is probably aimed at those drivers instead of the free ones
[12:05] <variant> arron: please pastebin the xorg.conf
[12:05] <arron> but with the free ones 3d accelaration isnt enabled
[12:05] <grodius> Can someone Help me? Im trying to find the directory of C header files that match my running kernel, where can I find them?
[12:06] <aidan> question
[12:06] <arron> Variant: were is the xorg.conf ive forgot
[12:06] <aidan> y would my firefox browesr shut when i try to sign ito myspace?
[12:06] <arron> Variant: nvm found it
[12:06] <grodius> arron: /etc/X11/sources.list i think
[12:06] <Vuen_> hey guys, i have a palm pilot on which i keep my calendar. is it possible to hotsync it with Kontact?
[12:06] <pbureau> !libdvdcss
[12:06] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[12:06] <frogzoo> grodius: /usr/src
[12:07] <grodius> frogzoo, nm I wasnt paying attention
[12:07] <wonderpoop> after i do apt-get install kubuntu and reboot
[12:07] <variant> aidan: cus myspace is for non cool people and firefox is for cool people - ergo, incompatibility ;)_
[12:07] <wonderpoop> my login manager won't open
[12:07] <wonderpoop> it just hangs
[12:07] <wonderpoop> then closes
[12:07] <aidan> y would my firefox browesr shut when i try to sign ito myspace?
[12:07] <pbureau> !w32codecs
[12:07] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[12:08] <arron> Variant: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3755/
[12:08] <aidan> um ok it always used to work on window when i signied into myspace
[12:08] <aidan> though firefox
[12:08] <tsoler> hello
[12:08] <variant> aidan: yeah, i was jokeing.. :) I have no idea why it would do that.. is it only myspace i happens to?
[12:09] <aidan> umm yeah
[12:09] <tsoler> how can i set the JAVA_HOME variable
[12:09] <birgi> is there a grub version of "lilo -M <device> mbr"
[12:09] <variant> arron: ok, try changing the line that reads Driver "ati" in the "Section "device"" section
[12:09] <variant> arron: to read "radeon" instead
[12:09] <tsoler> no first of all where is the jdk folder?
[12:10] <arron> ok
[12:10] <variant> arron: then remove and fglrx packages
[12:10] <variant> arron: I don't know exactly what they are called so you will have to apt-get remove the packages your self
[12:10] <variant> !fglrx
[12:10] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:11] <arron> already done that ^^
[12:11] <variant> arron: you removed them?
[12:11] <aidan> how do i update to firefox 2
[12:11] <variant> arron: apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx fglrx-control
[12:11] <arron> ok
[12:11] <frogzoo> tsoler: ~/.bashrc per user   /etc/environment for global
[12:12] <arron> Variant: ok ive done that
[12:13] <arron> Variant: shall i restart X now?
[12:13] <variant> arron: yes, please wait a sek though
[12:13] <arron> ok
[12:13] <arron> Variant: waiting
[12:13] <variant> arron: I have a nasty feeling that if this doesn't work you will have to do some compiling
[12:13] <variant> arron: but go ahead and try now
[12:13] <arron> ok :X
[12:13] <arron> :Z
[12:14] <arron> :| :S
[12:14] <arron> yeh anyway
[12:14] <_feh_> can anyone tell me how to get dhcp from overwriting my nameservers, the dns servers it is gathering are slower than the ones I manually put in and I need them to stop being overwritten..
[12:14] <arron> shall i restart now?
[12:14] <variant> arron: I will talk you through it if needed
[12:14] <variant> arron: yes
[12:14] <arron> Variant: the whole computer
[12:14] <variant> arron: no, just x
[12:14] <arron> Variant:  or just the xserver
[12:14] <arron> ok be right back then
[12:14] <variant> arron: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[12:14] <riddlebox> variant, if I install these custom packages, will ubuntu have a problem or even try to upgrade them?
[12:14] <variant> riddlebox: what custom pakages?
[12:15] <riddlebox> the ones I will be building from the src.rpm
[12:15] <pbureau> !codecs
[12:15] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:15] <variant> riddlebox: no, it won't know they are installed though so will ignore them unless you tell it not to
[12:15] <arron> Variant: how do i tell if it worked then?
[12:15] <variant> !src
[12:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about src - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:15] <variant> arron: glxinfo | grep direct
[12:16] <jubuntu> hi, how do i use vixie-cron's crontab non-interactively?
[12:16] <arron> Variant: direct rendering still says no
[12:16] <variant> arron: damn
[12:16] <variant> arron: hold on please
[12:16] <arron> ok
[12:16] <riddlebox> variant, thats if I just compile them, but if I use checkinstall or something to create a deb file, then will I have a problem?
[12:16] <variant> riddlebox: I don't know
[12:17] <variant> riddlebox: sorry
[12:17] <tsoler> anyone willing to help me set up JAVA_HOME var?
[12:17] <variant> arron: please pastebin  /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:18] <Dimensions> How do i boot my computer via usb HDD ? i unplugged internal hdd in bios selected boot from usb hdd ... but as i start pc it stucks on first screen .
[12:18] <aidan> anyone no what would be wrong if everytime i tryed to sign on to myspace it closed the browser
[12:18] <variant> Dimensions: you need to have a bootloader installed on the usb hdd
[12:19] <mon^rch> beryl is following vista's effects
[12:19] <Cretemonster> small question about changing permissions on a folder?
[12:19] <variant> aidan: probably a javascript bug in firefox.. try installing noscript firefox extension to disable javascript and then  browse to myspace
[12:19] <LjL> Cretemonster: yes?
[12:19] <Cretemonster> uduntu desktop 6.10
[12:19] <mcphail> jubuntu: not sure what happens if you attack /var/spool/cron/crontabs/your_user directly...
[12:19] <Dimensions> variant: i have this usb hdd cloned from another hdd which is full working system with RH installed
[12:19] <Fanskapet> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0".
[12:19] <arron_> variant: sorry my computer crashed
[12:19] <Fanskapet> anyone know how to solve this?
[12:20] <Cretemonster> installed an application which has set permissions on a critical folder to root only
[12:20] <LjL> Cretemonster, yeah, but what's the question? :P
[12:20] <Fanskapet> i get that when i run fglrxinfo
[12:20] <variant> Dimensions: the cloneing software probably did not clone the master boot record
[12:20] <aidan> variant: how would i fixc it
[12:20] <Cretemonster> how to I change permissions on the folder from root to user?
[12:20] <LjL> Cretemonster: well, to begin with, if an application has done that, it might have had good reasons to do it, no?
[12:20] <Dimensions> variant:  i used dd command for cloning ...
[12:20] <LjL> Cretemonster: what folder is that anyway?
[12:20] <variant> aidan: do what i said first to see if that is indeed the problem.. if it is thesimplest thing to do would be update firefox
[12:20] <Cretemonster> its a default setting for the nepenthes software
[12:20] <arron_> varient: im gonna go to bed got school tommorow
[12:20] <aidan> ok tell me how to upodate it then mate
[12:20] <variant> Dimensions: did you include the mbr? it's the first few hundered bytes of the disk
[12:21] <variant> aidan: check if thats the problem first
[12:21] <Cretemonster> meaning I have to run nepenthes from the root account for the folder to aquire the files gathered
[12:21] <variant> aidan: firefox noscript extension
[12:21] <LjL> well Cretemonster, "chown" can change the owner of a file or folder, and "chmod" can change permissions. i guess you want "chown" here, though not knowing the details i cannot really be sure
[12:21] <variant> aidan: then browse to myspace (with scripts globaly disabled)
[12:21] <LjL> Ubotu, tell Cretemonster about permissions | Cretemonster, see the private message from Ubotu
[12:22] <variant> arron: sorry, didn't see htat
[12:22] <Dimensions> variant:  i did dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/sde which does bit by bit cloning, mbr should be copied too
[12:22] <variant> arron: ok, np. if you need more help drop me a mail mrintegrity at gmail dot com
[12:22] <variant> Dimensions: yep, should be
[12:22] <variant> Dimensions: dunno what oculd be the problem then. does grub load?
[12:23] <scrupul0us> hey all... im trying to setup a mailserver with squirrelmail on 6.10... ive looked @ flurdy (based on older OS) and googled... but i cant seem to get it working...
[12:23] <scrupul0us> i have php, apache, mysql phpmyadmin installed
[12:23] <aidan> variant: works now bro
[12:23] <_feh_> xa
[12:23] <variant> aidan: with noscript installed?
[12:23] <Cretemonster> To change or edit files that are owned by root, sudo must be used
[12:23] <aidan> yes
[12:24] <Cretemonster> OK got that part fine
[12:24] <variant> aidan: you should change firefox version then.. (thats not garuanted to fix it though)
[12:24] <Cretemonster> understanding the commands is where it all gets foggy
[12:24] <LjL> Cretemonster, yes, "sudo" is the command that allows you to work as root. if you need to change the *permissions* of a file that's owned by root, you need to use "sudo", too, for the same reason
[12:24] <Dimensions> variant: doesn't go further than first black screen which is of bios ...
[12:24] <variant> aidan: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[12:24] <aidan> ok
[12:24] <variant> Dimensions: does it output an error message?
[12:24] <aidan> well i got firefox 2 dl but i cant seem to install it
[12:24] <LjL> Cretemonster: well, a practical example: if i have a file named "test", that's owned by root, and i want it to be owned by ljl instead, i type "sudo chown ljl:ljl test"
[12:25] <aastaneh> Hi. I got a simple problem. My laptop's dsdt stinks, so I use acpi=off in kernel parameters. When I do this, however, my pcmcia card will not get detected. Any ideas?
[12:25] <aidan> variant: 5.10 lol
[12:25] <variant> aidan: I had this exact problem with older version of ubuntu
[12:25] <LjL> Cretemonster: that means "give the file 'test' owner 'ljl' and group 'ljl'" -- note that, by default, every user is created with a group of the same name attached
[12:25] <variant> aidan: i suggestyou upgrade to dapper
[12:25] <aidan> dont have it
[12:25] <Dimensions> variant:  its stuck on bios screen without any thing
[12:25] <variant> aidan: you can do it via the internet
[12:25] <aidan> cvcan i update with out format hd
[12:26] <variant> Dimensions: on the bios screen? do you mean the POST screen?
[12:26] <Cretemonster> still reading
[12:26] <LjL> Cretemonster: then if i want to make that 'test' file *only* readable, writable and executable by ljl, i type "chmod u=rwx test", which means "give the owning *u*ser *r*ead, *w*rite and e*x*ecute permissions"
[12:26] <LjL> Cretemonster: this time i did not need to use "sudo", because the file was now owned by myself, and not by root anymore, since i used chown earlier
[12:26] <aidan> variant: can i update without cd?? or burin it to a cd
[12:27] <variant> aidan: you don't need a cd
[12:27] <sixpointeight> how do i use the ubuntu disk to fix my system?
[12:27] <Hoosteen> argh! this wireless is frustrating...lol
[12:27] <Hoosteen> anybody care to help a bit again?
[12:27] <LjL> sixpointeight: depends. how's your system broken?
[12:27] <aidan> variant: can i update to drapper with all my program igot still installed
[12:27] <aidan> ?
[12:27] <variant> aidan: yes
[12:27] <scrupul0us> anyone
[12:27] <sixpointeight> the boot image is stuck in klamav quarantine.
[12:27] <LjL> Ubotu, tell aidan about upgrade | aidan, see the private message from Ubotu
[12:28] <Dimensions> variant:  well the first screen which loads from bios right ? on which u get info like press Del to enter bios setup
[12:28] <variant> aidan: first run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade then open /etc/apt/sources.list and change anything that says breezy to dapper. save and close then run apt-get update && apt-get dist upgrade
[12:28] <Hoosteen> here's the deal...i download the Broadcom 4318 drivers...i run sudo ndiswrapper -i /Desktop/bcmwl5.inf and i get the following
[12:28] <sixpointeight> and now grub says file moy found when i boot.
[12:29] <sixpointeight> *not
[12:29] <tom_> variant: no...
[12:29] <sivik> Hoosteen, have you tried using the actual firmware and not using ndiswrapper
[12:29] <variant> Dimensions: thats the post screen
[12:29] <tom_> !upgrade
[12:29] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[12:29] <Hoosteen> couldn't copy /Desktop/bcmwl5.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 135.
[12:29] <LjL> sixpointeight: ah right, i remember that. well, i've never used klamav and have no idea what it does to quarantine things... but in general, you should boot from the live CD, then mount your HD filesystem ("sudo mount /media/hdwhatever", though it's possibly already mounted by default), and then you can work on it as root
[12:29] <variant> tom_: no what?
[12:29] <sivik> Hoosteen, i have it currenty working
[12:29] <Cretemonster> would it be possible to walk through this a step at a time
[12:29] <Hoosteen> no i haven't sivik
[12:29] <Cretemonster> with some one syllable words?
[12:29] <tom_> variant that upgrade method is dirty at best.
[12:29] <sivik> Hoosteen, you might want to do it, you using edgy?
[12:29] <sixpointeight> thanks.
[12:29] <Hoosteen> no..Dapper
[12:29] <tom_> !upgrade | aiden
[12:29] <ubotu> aiden: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[12:29] <variant> tom_: yeah mate, the way i sugest works just as well. doesn't cause any problems and is the simplest way to inform someone of what to do
[12:29] <sivik> Hoosteen, thats 2.6.15, right
[12:29] <enigm0> Hello again.
[12:30] <variant> tom_: name one problem that it causes
[12:30] <Hoosteen> well i'm running 2.6.1
[12:30] <rashed202> Guys.. for the alternate CD.. what's Install in OEM mode?
[12:30] <tom_> variant: it is not the simplest way, and it can cause problems.
[12:30] <aidan> variant do that in termail?
[12:30] <variant> aidan: yep
[12:30] <variant> tom_: name one
[12:30] <enigm0> Is it possible to make a program (lets say quod lidet) write files to an ntfs-partitioned disk?
[12:30] <variant> aidan: nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:30] <g333k_work> hi, how can I enable my network device? I tried with #ifconfig eth0 up,  but didnt work, any clue?
[12:30] <LjL> Cretemonster, just type "sudo chown -R yourusername:yourusername /path/to/the/affected/directory" -- i hope that said directory *should* actually be owned by you rather than by root, as you said
[12:30] <variant> aidan: ctrl o to save ctrl x to exit
[12:30] <tom_> variant: abandoned packages
[12:30] <Flamekebab> Evening everyone, should I ask here about MTP devices, or is there a more specific channel?
[12:30] <tom_> variant it says on the ubuntu website that method of upgrading is sketchy.
[12:30] <variant> tom_: please explain in more detail than that
[12:31] <tom_> so why tell people to use it?
[12:31] <variant> tom_: link?
[12:31] <mindstate> !blog
[12:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about blog - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:31] <variant> tom_: see !worksforme
[12:31] <sivik> Hoosteen, did you get my pm
[12:31] <jeremiah> how can i remove unbuntu
[12:31] <aidan> im confused variant
[12:31] <Hoosteen> sivik: no
[12:31] <tom_> variant: read the damn website.
[12:31] <sivik> jeremiah, format the parition
[12:31] <Flamekebab> lol unbuntu
[12:31] <LjL> jeremiah: just install another operating system in its place
[12:31] <Flamekebab> why do people always make that typo?
[12:31] <sivik> Hoosteen, sivik> download via apt-get the bcm43xx-fwcutter and then go to http://bu3sch.de/bcm43xx_fw.php
 and download the firmware v3. firmware, and then use bcm43xx-fwcutter to extract the firmware into the /lib/firmware file
[12:31] <mindstate> jeremiah, why would u want to :-)
[12:31] <Dimensions> yeah variant im talking abt post screen then ... as soon as it reaches to detecting drives it gets stuck
[12:31] <Cretemonster> sudo chown -R crete /var/lib/nepenthes
[12:31] <LjL> not always, they do "ubunto" too
[12:31] <Cretemonster> look close?
[12:31] <variant> aidan: don't worry about it, if your not comfertable on the command line you can use the more "reccomended" way (which tom_ insists is the only way)
[12:31] <Flamekebab> I <3 ubuntu
[12:32] <sivik> Flamekebab, good
[12:32] <variant> !upgrade | tom_
[12:32] <ubotu> tom_: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[12:32] <jeremiah> i am trying to put both windows and ubuntu
[12:32] <variant> !upgrade | aidan
[12:32] <ubotu> aidan: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[12:32] <sivik> jeremiah, you have to install windows first
[12:32] <mindstate> anyone know of any remote blog tools? i tried BloGTK but it wouldn't work
[12:32] <Hoosteen> sivik ok..i'll give that a shot
[12:32] <variant> tom_: sorry, wrong nick
[12:32] <Flamekebab> sivik, well I'd have to, I've got it on two laptops, will be three next week!
[12:32] <LjL> Cretemonster: make it crete:crete, not just crete... but, no, not really, nothing in /var/lib should be owner by a "standard" user i believe.
[12:32] <tom_> variant: i never said it was the only way, i said your way was not the recommended way. why would you tell people to use the upgrade method ubuntu says is not recommended?
[12:32] <sivik> Flamekebab, what do you mean you have to
[12:32] <jeremiah> i know but i messed up and installed ubuntu and dont know how to take it off
[12:32] <sivik> jeremiah, just do a reinstall
[12:32] <Cretemonster> hmmm
[12:32] <LjL> Cretemonster: so, may that directory ever contain any files that should not be read by other people? (passwords, whatever)
[12:32] <Flamekebab> sivik, I'd have to love it to use it on so many systems
[12:32] <enigm0> Hello everyone. Is it possible to make a program write a file on an ntfs-filesystem?
[12:33] <sivik> Flamekebab, like at work
[12:33] <mindstate> enigm0, ntfs-3g
[12:33] <Cretemonster> OK
[12:33] <LjL> enigm0: yes, it's not too safe though
[12:33] <rbs-tito> Does anyone know the dependencies for the nvidia script
[12:33] <sivik> enigm0, you can do it, but its not recommended
[12:33] <variant> tom_: the !upgrade links says nothing about being not recommended
[12:33] <Cretemonster> maybe this is futile as it starting to sound like the nepenthes install went crappy
[12:33] <Flamekebab> sivik, well, yes, but these laptops are my personal ones. I use it on several machines in my office too though
[12:33] <tom_> variant: "This is the simplest way for most users, especially if you are not an expert." that is referring to upgrading using Update Manager.
[12:33] <tylersmith> Hi. I wanto to share files between Dapper and XP. I've installed SAMBA. When I do a places>network servers I see an windows network icon, but when I click on it, I don't see any xp machines.
[12:33] <Cretemonster> it was an event that required I use sudo command for the install to take
[12:33] <LjL> Cretemonster: if it contains no sensitive files, then you can do  chmod -R a+rw /var/lib/nepenthes , this will make every file in that directory readable and writable by any user
[12:34] <variant> tom_: right.. and where does it say that it can cause problems to do it hte other way?
[12:34] <Cretemonster> there ya go
[12:34] <Cretemonster> thats what I need! (y)
[12:34] <tom_> variant: it does not clean up abandoned packages.
[12:34] <Cretemonster> Read and Write only
[12:34] <Flamekebab> Right, can anyone help me out with connecting an MTP samsung MP3 player to my system?
[12:34] <aidan> ok dont what what to do now
[12:34] <gnuwtey> hi, jrib?
[12:34] <gnuwtey> i tried your command
[12:34] <Cretemonster> the folder is used to gather files from a emulated server which poses multiple windows flaws
[12:34] <LjL> Cretemonster: that's a security risk, however, unless you know with *certainty* that there can *not* be *any* sensitive information in that directory
[12:34] <gnuwtey> but it still doesn't work
[12:34] <LjL> Cretemonster: "only"?
[12:34] <aidan> upto  gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[12:34] <variant> tom_: thats very simple to fix
[12:35] <mindstate> anyone know of any remote blog tools?
[12:35] <aidan> comes up with heaps of text
[12:35] <variant> aidan: you need any more help?
[12:35] <aidan> variant yes
[12:35] <tom_> variant: or you could just use the recommended way and let the update manager script uninstall them.
[12:35] <gnuwtey> and also, the ubuntu disk returns an error
[12:35] <Cretemonster> this folder is where nepenthes dumps the files it was spammed
[12:35] <Cretemonster> thats all
[12:35] <variant> aidan: yeah, if you trust my judgement ( tom_ doesnt) you can just change anything that says breezy to dapper
[12:35] <gnuwtey> it says "couldn't find ext2 on /dev/hda2"
[12:35] <morrolan> mindstate - check out drivel
[12:35] <gnuwtey> oh sorry
[12:36] <gnuwtey> i've got to run out for a bit
[12:36] <mindstate> morrolan, thanks
[12:36] <aidan> variant
[12:36] <aidan> (gedit:8141): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[12:36] <aidan> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[12:36] <Cretemonster> it contains hexdumps in a bin form and allows me to gather or collect those files into this folder which then automates a send sequence to various Antivirus vendors
[12:36] <variant> aidan: thats nothing..
[12:36] <variant> aidan: ignore that. it's a gnome minor bug that doesn't affect what your doing
[12:37] <aidan> ok
[12:37] <tom_> wouldn't happen using update manager......
[12:37] <aidan> so change breezy to dapper
[12:37] <variant> aidan: you won't be able to save the file unless you opened it with sudo/gksudo
[12:37] <sivik> aidan; and then dapper to edgy
[12:37] <mindstate> morrolan, do you think it being a dapper package will matter on Edgy?
[12:37] <aidan> would i want to update twice
[12:37] <variant> tom_: it has absolutly nothing to do with update manager or the way he is currently updateing
[12:37] <morrolan> mindstate - it shouldn't really make a difference, unless it depends on a deprecated package.
[12:37] <aidan> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / breezy main restricted
[12:38] <variant> aidan: dapper is the "long term support" version, only upgrade to edgy if you have a reason to
[12:38] <aidan> get rid of that'?
[12:38] <mindstate> morrolan, alright ill give it a whirl
[12:38] <variant> aidan: you can delete the cdrom lines yes
[12:38] <Cretemonster> thanks for ur time LjL
[12:38] <Cretemonster> I appreciate it
[12:38] <LjL> Cretemonster: no problem
[12:38] <variant> aidan: you will have a whole bunch of packages to download, could take several hours depending on your internet connection
[12:38] <aidan> should i update to edgy though? or better to update to dapper
[12:39] <Hoosteen> sivik: can u explain a little bit how i use apt-get to get bcm43xx-fwcutter?
[12:39] <Hoosteen> or anybody for that matter
[12:39] <LjL> Cretemonster: it does sound like something that's not very security sensitive, if i understood it correctly
[12:39] <variant> aidan: update to daper first, not safe to skip a version like that
[12:39] <sivik> Hoosteen, do you have universe and multiverse active in your sources.list
[12:39] <morrolan> Hoosteen - to install a package, you have to type:   sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[12:39] <mindstate> morrolan,  it does lol
[12:40] <tom_> aidan: dapper is more stable than edgy, it has about 4 1/2 years of support left. Edgy has less support and is using newer, more experimental packages. If stability is more important to you than cutting edge features, stick with Dapper.
[12:40] <Bakefy> Is MythTV awesome?
[12:40] <aidan> ok
[12:40] <variant> Bakefy: yes, once you get it configured/installed :)
[12:40] <Hoosteen> sivik: check ur pm :D
[12:40] <tom_> bakefy: check out freevo as well :D
[12:40] <aidan> i changed every word of breezy to dapper
[12:40] <sivik> Hoosteen, got it
[12:40] <Bakefy> variant, I am working on that part.  is it difficult to install?
[12:41] <variant> aidan: cool, run apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:41] <sivik> aidan: sudo apt-get update, and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:41] <tom_> psyche.
[12:41] <sivik> Hoosteen, you get my pm?
[12:41] <Hoosteen> sivik: doesn't seem like u can respond though..unless u haven't yet :D
[12:41] <sivik> i did
[12:41] <aidan> do i need to save to file
[12:41] <Jefo> !iso
[12:41] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[12:41] <Hoosteen> sivik: no :(
[12:41] <Bakefy> tom_ is freevo easy to install?
[12:41] <variant> Bakefy: supposedly, I never did it my self but a friend said it was hardish
[12:41] <sivik> there seems to be a problem here, do you have aim or something like that?
[12:41] <variant> aidan: yes
[12:41] <Jefo> !burn
[12:41] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[12:41] <aidan> and do i need to have sudo infront of that cmd lind
[12:41] <tom_> bakefy: there are packages for it yes
[12:42] <Hoosteen> sivik: pm again
[12:42] <variant> aidan: yes
[12:42] <sivik> how do i set up chroot for blocking ppl on my website to get anywhere else on my computer
[12:42] <flint-dude> Later
[12:42] <tom_> sivik: you have to register you're nick to pm i think.
[12:42] <anon_> dear lovely people: a question
[12:42] <variant> sivik: try this: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=04/05/24/1450203
[12:42] <aidan> so it will install with me not losing anythink on my harddrvie
[12:42] <Xerocide> Every time I try to run the defect check (or anything in the boot menu) it just restarts my computer, any suggestions?
[12:42] <variant> aidan: correct
[12:43] <tom_> aidan: it updates the software only, it won't touch your personal files.
[12:43] <Kiba-kun> Hi, I have a problem everytime I burn a CD
[12:43] <anon_> what's the best way to force xorg to use a USB mouse and ignore my built-in laptop touchpad?
[12:43] <Xerocide> I have checked the MD5 hash, and I have used 2 different burners to try and still the same result.
[12:43] <Beverage> hey folks, my x server died anyway i booted in with knoppix and now im trying to copy the files to a USB flash drive anyone know why it wont let me?
[12:43] <Xerocide> Could it be a problem with my copmuter?
[12:43] <aidan> and anyistalled programs / or will it reinstall over them the latest versions
[12:43] <Kiba-kun> Um...let me repeat myself if I wasn't heard
[12:43] <variant> anon_: you can edit xorg.conf to specify your exact mouse that you want to use instead of /dev/input/mice
[12:43] <Kiba-kun> I am having a problem with burning a Ubuntu CD
[12:43] <tom_> Beverage: is the flash drive mounted?
[12:43] <morrolan> Beverage - knoppix will mount your USB drive as read-only by default
[12:43] <Kiba-kun> I tried several time
[12:43] <knovak> I have a really stupid question: my friend is giving me a new Hard Drive tomorrow, and I want to free space on my current hard drive (my windows installation, I also have Ubuntu on a dual boot there)... so my Q: can I somehow transfer my entire installation to the new HDD?
[12:44] <aidan> any wont delete my codec's
[12:44] <variant> anon_: you would set /dev/input/mouse0 or soemthing instead. also take out the touchpad driver lines
[12:44] <variant> aidan: no, only updates what you have
[12:44] <aidan> ok sweet
[12:44] <variant> aidan: jupp
[12:44] <aidan> anmd will the look of 5.10 chagne?
[12:44] <Kiba-kun> but I alway got an error message like this 1718.871.xxxxxx Buffer I/O Error on device hdc, logical block x
[12:44] <variant> aidan: aa bit yes.. not to much
[12:44] <Kiba-kun> x stand for a number
[12:44] <aidan> ok sweet
[12:44] <tom_> aidan: well upgrading from breezy to dapper, you will need to install some newer gstreamer packages after.
[12:45] <Kiba-kun> can anybody see the reason why?
[12:45] <anon_> Kiba-kun: sounds like file-system corruption?
[12:45] <aidan> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[12:45] <aidan> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[12:45] <aidan> aidan@ubuntu:~$
[12:45] <Kiba-kun> hmm.I alway got this error on every Ubuntu CD I burn
[12:45] <variant> aidan: sudo the command remember
[12:46] <aidan> aw what is it easy as just getin them and typen in the cmd like i did
[12:46] <Kiba-kun> well.. Every CD that isn't RW
[12:46] <Kiba-kun> and RW don't work either
[12:46] <aidan> ture variant
[12:46] <variant> aidan: yes
[12:47] <d0dge-> If I want an Eterm shortcut to my taskbar, but I want it to start like: LC_ALL=en_US.iso885915 Eterm, how can I do that?
[12:47] <aidan> variant: i did sudo it
[12:47] <variant> d0dge-: change the command in the launcher to look like that instead of just eterm
[12:47] <aidan> came up with same error
[12:47] <variant> aidan: and you got that error? is the graphical package manager open?
[12:47] <tom_> variant: can you suggest he follow the other method, seeing as he is having difficulties?
[12:47] <Kiba-kun> anything I am missing here?
[12:47] <variant> tom_: feel free to sugest it your self
[12:47] <Kiba-kun> I tried like three burning softwares so far
[12:47] <anon_> how do I figure out what device the USB mouse is registered as?
[12:48] <Kiba-kun> so far, nothing work
[12:48] <aidan> no it not open
[12:48] <variant> aidan: do sudo -i
[12:48] <variant> aidan: then run apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:48] <grodius> hey im trying to uninstall vmware before i install the new version, how do I make sure its completely removed
[12:49] <d0dge-> variant: There's only 'Button title', 'Description' and location of the executable. Doesn't help if I put that on the command line arguments because it comes in front of the 'Eterm' command
[12:49] <LjL> grodius: if you installed the Server version via its own installer... you don't
[12:49] <variant> d0dge-: right click on the launcher and thats what you get?
[12:49] <LjL> grodius: just hope the uninstaller (if it came with one) did its work thoroughly
[12:49] <Kiba-kun> so nobody responding to my request for help. Perhap I didn't describe the problem quite clearly?
[12:49] <tom_> grodius: are you using vmware-player?
[12:49] <variant> d0dge-: you can always make a very simple script (just he command on one line) and have the executable reference that instead
[12:50] <spacepod> I'm looking for a fairly easy and inexpensive way to run raid on 6.06. I currently have 2x 120g ide drives (both on seperate motherboard controllers). I've read up on dmraid however it seems kind of tricky. Would i be better off running SATA drives and a controller card? Note that i'm too poor to afford scsi :P
[12:50] <aidan>  cannot execute binary file
[12:50] <scrupul0us> anyone at all...
[12:51] <variant> aidan: something sounds broken
[12:51] <grodius> tom_, Well i had the VMware server, Tried to installt he new one it got screwed up and now I cant install either
[12:51] <Kiba-kun> help?
[12:51] <variant> aidan: by all means try tom_'s suggestion but it sounds like there is a problem with your system
[12:51] <ryanakca> what ports do I open in iptables to allow printing with samba?
[12:51] <variant> aidan: type dmesg please and pastebin the output
[12:51] <tom_> grodius: so you're trying to install it?
[12:51] <WonderWal> hi, i installed ubuntu, im interested in seeing which kernel config has been used in my kernel.. where can i find it?
[12:52] <variant> d0dge-: echo "LC_ALL=en_US.iso885915 Eterm" > ~/.etermlauncher.sh && chmod +x ~/.etermlauncher
[12:52] <tom_> aidan: follow the directions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades#head-792e320b3976df97f0d8b47047e1bcc955fd2569
[12:52] <variant> doronBE: then just change the "executable" line to read /home/youruser/.etermlauncher
[12:52] <variant> doronBE: then just change the "executable" line to read /home/youruser/.etermlauncher.sh
[12:53] <knovak> question: my friend is giving me a new Hard Drive tomorrow, and I want to free space on my current hard drive (my windows installation, I also have Ubuntu on a dual boot there)... so my Q: can I somehow transfer my entire installation to the new HDD?
[12:53] <aidan> dmseg pastebin
[12:53] <WonderWal> ?
[12:53] <d0dge-> variant: Oh now I get it, thanks for help
[12:54] <variant> aidan: I have a strong suspicion that your system is borked in other ways that update-manager and apt-get dist-upgrade wont fix, feel free to try it though. if it still doesn't work come back and let me know
[12:54] <squeaks> hello, i compiled my own kernel 2.6.19.2 but now the module for ipw2100 won't load, dmesg output: "pw2100: eth0: Firmware 'ipw2100-1.3.fw' not available or load failed.", there is no directory /lib/firmware/2.6.19.2-custom-2-01-a' like there is for the default kernel, can anyone point me to documentation for what needs to be done to create the firmware directory for my custom firmware?
[12:54] <variant> d0dge-: yw
[12:54] <variant> squeaks: you have to install the firmware by the sounds of it!
[12:55] <variant> !wireless | squeaks
[12:55] <ubotu> squeaks: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:55] <WonderWal> :(
[12:55] <variant> squeaks: that should help you out if you read that
[12:55] <squeaks> thanks, i will do that
[12:55] <spacepod> anyone have any suggestions on my raid issue?
[12:56] <variant> WonderWal: cd /usr/src/ && tar -zxvf 'uname -r' && cd thedirectorycreated && make oldconfig && make config
[12:56] <ww> quit
[12:56] <aidan> ok tom
[12:56] <aidan> done that
[12:57] <karthi1> hi gys...help needed??.......i compiled my c program using gcc...but how to get the output?
[12:57] <Dimensions> Hie  ... I have the setting in bios to boot from usb hdd as first sequence second is cd rom third is internal drive but if i remove internal hdd or not still the system wouldn't load and gets stucked as soon as post screen comes to detecting drives ...
[12:57] <QRZ> spacepod: Your drives are SATA or IDE?
[12:57] <Kiba-kun> why am I being ignored?
[12:57] <karthi1> : hi gys...help needed??.......i compiled my c program using gcc...but how to get the output?..wht command i should use?
[12:57] <karthi1> hi gys...help needed??.......i compiled my c program using gcc...but how to get the output?..wht command i should use?
[12:57] <chiarato> I did something to the pc that the internet got very slow what can I do to improve the speed on my internet
[12:57] <aidan> says somethin,k bout
[12:57] <variant> karthi1: gcc makes a.out by default, thats an elf executable inspite of the name. just run it as normal
[12:57] <aidan> check check box
[12:58] <karthi1> thanks variant
[12:58] <tom_> variant: did you get my PM?
[12:58] <variant> tom_: wasn't paying attention, will take a look now
[12:58] <squeaks> variant, i just did "sudo ln -s 2.6.17-10-generic $(uname -r)", seems to have fixed the problem... but hardly seems like the correct kernel compilation procedure
[12:58] <variant> tom_: nope, none came through to me
[12:58] <tom_> k
[12:58] <aidan> tom im stuck
[12:59] <spacepod> QRZ:  currently i have two ide drives on seperate motherboard ide controllers. i've read a little on using dmraid however it seems a bit tricky. would i be better off using SATA drives?
[12:59] <sivik> aidan: what are you having problems with now
[12:59] <variant> squeaks: no, the kernel source is not "installed" by default so you have to extract it, cd to that directory, build the old config and then view the config
[12:59] <aidan> its said sertval new versions of ubuntu
[12:59] <chiarato> my net got slow what can I do???
[12:59] <variant> tom_: are you registerd with nickserve?
[12:59] <variant> tom_: you have to be to pm on this network
[12:59] <tom_> variant: please read this: http://pastebin.ca/336354 . It is a side note underneath the upgrade method involving manually editing the sources.list file.
[12:59] <chiarato> jrib: are you there bro!
[01:00] <QRZ> spacepod: I think you should be able to use your current ide drives.  Yes, dmraid can be a little tricky.  However, there are tutorials on the 'Net that explain it step by step.
[01:00] <AngryElf_> lirc
[01:00] <lskd-255> chiarato, how fast is it suppose to be?
[01:00] <variant> tom_: that has nothing to do with what I was asking aidan to do
[01:01] <QRZ> spacepod: I just built an Ubuntu server with 2 SATA II drives configured for RAID 1.  So far, working great!  :-)
[01:01] <variant> tom_: I was asking him to run dist-upgrade not upgrade
[01:01] <tom_> variant: it is possible aidan's system was corrupted following that method. Please stop suggesting it, not because I think its the best way, but because it's easier to mess somebody's system up.
[01:01] <aidan> n stuck with tom's way
[01:01] <spacepod> QRZ:  using 6.06 or 6.10?
[01:01] <tom_> variant: but still, it is easier to mess up a system following that method.
[01:01] <sivik> tom: i have ever had a problem with it
[01:01] <variant> tom_: considering that he hasent managed to actualy run it yet I find that hard to beleive
[01:01] <chiarato> lskd-255 good question it used to be fast!
[01:01] <QRZ> spacepod: Dapper.  6.06, I think.
[01:01] <variant> tom_: only if you can't follow instructions
[01:02] <dirk_> hey guys, I could use a little help with wifi and dhclient. It works fine on my home net however on almost every other net it fails
[01:02] <variant> tom_: please show me the original link where you got that text from
[01:02] <lskd-255> chiarato, have you reset your modem lately?  turn it off for about 3 mins, enough for the line to clearand reboot your computer and modem together
[01:02] <chiarato> lskd-255: used to click and open now click wait then open
[01:02] <QRZ> spacepod: Yes, it is 6.06.
[01:02] <aidan> tom_ nered help
[01:03] <lskd-255> chiarato, mine was doing that about an hour and a half ago
[01:03] <chiarato> lskd-255: I have wireless network adapter
[01:03] <dirk_> I can connect with iwconfig, but when i run dhclient it loses its connection and of course fails to acquire an ip
[01:03] <spacepod> QRZ: awesome.. what type of server are you running? fileserver, webserver?
[01:03] <tom_> variant: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades#head-0171d3953a2ea19e9b4228bcd5cde3ecfb67f7af        Read "Extremely Important" underneath.
[01:03] <variant> tom_: nevermind i found it
[01:03] <QRZ> spacepod: Here's a tutorial that should help:  http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html
[01:03] <lskd-255> chiarato, have you checked with a speed site
[01:03] <dirk_> does anyone have any idea why this would happen?
[01:03] <aidan> tom_ need help stuck
[01:03] <tom_> variant: i'm just trying to help you help people better. don't take offense.
[01:03] <chiarato> lskd-255: I'm doing that right now!
[01:03] <tom_> aidan: what's up?
[01:03] <spacepod> sweet. thanks. heading there now
[01:03] <QRZ> spacepod: It's a Webserver, DNS, Mailserver, and FTP server.
[01:04] <Zenith2007> Hi everyone, hope everything's OK. I've after some noobie help please, just installed ubuntu, when I try to change resolution it only goes as high as 800x600, any ideas?
[01:04] <lskd-255> chiarato, dsl or broadband?
[01:04] <variant> tom_: I don't take offence. what makes you think I have? anyway, aidan is now asking for your help.
[01:04] <pnm> dirk_: what's the wireless card? a usb ralink chipset, by any chance?
[01:04] <aidan> did the gksudo "update-manager"
[01:04] <QRZ> spacepod: The tutorial calls out SATA drives, but IDE should work fine.
[01:04] <spacepod> QRZ: cool deal. I'm attempting to setup a file server for our art department. was just going to use samba.
[01:04] <aidan> comes up with all these packages
[01:04] <chiarato> lskd-255: broadband
[01:04] <dirk_> atheros
[01:04] <variant> aidan: click to install
[01:04] <QRZ> spacepod: Sounds fun!
[01:05] <pnm> dirk_: hmm.. I had that exact problem once, with a ralink card. Turned out that for some bizarre reason the card'
[01:05] <tom_> aidan: you enabled the "Breezy-Updates" repository as the guide suggested?
[01:05] <aidan> ok
[01:05] <pnm> dirk_: was incompatible with a preempt kernel
[01:05] <aidan> ya
[01:05] <QRZ> My new Ubuntu server will be replacing an old Mandrake 9.0 server that has been online 24/7 for about 4 years now.
[01:05] <dirk_> well I've installed the new mad-wifi drivers
[01:06] <chiarato> lskd-255: it says download 4349kbps and up 305kbps??
[01:06] <tom_> aidan: if so, you should see a little tab at the top that says "new distribution available, dapper 6.06" something along those lines. you'll want to click upgrade.
[01:06] <lskd-255> ... that's not bad
[01:06] <dirk_> I've never had this problem with an atheros card before so I'm a little confused
[01:06] <Zenith2007> HI folks, any one got any ideas on the resolution query I posted please? Highest option is 800x600 and was hoping it to be 1024x768.
[01:06] <spacepod> QRZ: yea i've been running two 6.10 test machines for about a month now. In the future I was going to try and set it up to handle vpn connections as well. however i'm not sure if i want to add that kind of access directly to the server.
[01:06] <aidan> should i change that list back to breezy
[01:07] <chiarato> lskd-255: did you get that?
[01:07] <QRZ> spacepod: Well, that's the beauty of Linux.  Endless possibilities...
[01:07] <spacepod> also running xubuntu on the xbox :P
[01:07] <lskd-255> I've got 244.3 kbs
[01:07] <QRZ> spacepod: nice!  :-)
[01:08] <spacepod> yea much better than that ms stuff :)
[01:08] <tom_> aidan: i'm not sure it matters, but if it isn't working, don't change the sources.list file back to breezy, it can only mess things up more. you can't go backwards.
[01:08] <pnm> anyone know whether it's possible to extract a tar.gz archive in-place? I don't have space on my HD for the .tar.gz _and_ the extracted files
[01:08] <White_Lightning> !resolution
[01:08] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:08] <Heterocephalus> anyone using the the driver + blob for the intel ipw3945 wirelesscard?
[01:08] <aidan> so im screwed?>
[01:08] <tom_> aidan: i'm going to eat dinner right now, if you have any more problems, there's lots of people in here who have upgraded, and would be willing to help.
[01:09] <variant> tom_: fyi, he did not run apt-get update successfully as there is some other issue with the current installed system. therefore you can revert sources.list back to breezy with no risk
[01:09] <Zenith2007> great thanks, I'll give it a read through and see if I can sort it out, see you again soon no doubt. cheers.
[01:09] <lskd-255> chiarato, bandwidthplace clocks me: Communications 2 megabits per second  Storage 244.3 kilobytes per second  1MB file download 4.2 seconds  Subjective rating Great
[01:09] <chiarato> lskd-255: do you have any clue of what I can do to improve the speed of the browser cause' it was working fine yesterday?
[01:09] <variant> tom_: bailing out eh? ;)
[01:09] <aidan> whats the cmd line for the list
[01:09] <lskd-255> chiarato, is that firefox?
[01:10] <White_Lightning> !myself
[01:10] <variant> aidan: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about myself - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:10] <chiarato> lskd-255: yes
[01:10] <White_Lightning> hehe
[01:10] <chiarato> lskd-255: the only thing I can remember doing lately is installing flashplayer 9
[01:10] <aidan> variant is there a way to fix the stupid erroe while runnig the distro update
[01:11] <lskd-255> hmmm
[01:11] <variant> aidan: getting conflicting help from two different people is just as bad as bad advice from one person (if not worse) as tom_ seems to have gone afk, you can ask me for help or not
[01:11] <chiarato> lskd-255: after that the it got slow! where did you check your speed ??
[01:11] <variant> aidan: it's an odd error indeed
[01:11] <aidan> ill ask u for help
[01:11] <aidan> u seem to no what u are doin :P
[01:11] <lskd-255> chiarato, bandwidthplace clocks me: Communications 2 megabits per second  Storage 244.3 kilobytes per second  1MB file download 4.2 seconds  Subjective rating Great
[01:12] <variant> aidan: yeah well you can never know, tom_ is quite right about the update manager, it is the "reccomended" way..
[01:12] <aidan> meh
[01:12] <variant> aidan: I just don't see any real issues with using the manual way.. I have never had aproblem and neither have i met anyone who has
[01:12] <aidan> i have lol
[01:12] <aidan> :P
[01:12] <variant> aidan: :)
[01:13] <HighLife> Hey I can't eject the disc in my dvd drive for this reason   umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy, How can I force this thing to eject?
[01:13] <chiarato> lskd-255: I did it again and it shows 5577kbps and upload 285kbps?
[01:13] <variant> aidan: your issue seems to be something else
[01:13] <aidan> ill log off and log back on
[01:13] <sivik> HighLife, that means you either have a terminal open to that folder or have a file manager open to that file
[01:13] <variant> aidan: so just to experiment type "sudo -i", enter your pass and then type "whoami" it should say root
[01:13] <sivik> HighLife, exit the folder, and then try the command again
[01:13] <mindstate> !mp32ogg
[01:13] <lskd-255> chiarato, that sounds good
[01:13] <ubotu> mp32ogg: Converts MP3 file to Ogg Vorbis. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11-7 (edgy), package size 7 kB, installed size 64 kB
[01:13] <HighLife> Oh alright I guess I have to many desktops :P
[01:13] <sivik> HighLife, probabl
[01:13] <sivik> HighLife, maybe
[01:14] <pintas> hello, i am making a derivate of Ubuntu, can i distribute it freely without legal concerns?
[01:14] <pintas> :)
[01:14] <chiarato> lskd-255: I know but what confuses me is why takes so long to open up a page!!
[01:14] <aidan> yeah ok says that
[01:14] <lskd-255> chiarato, there is in firefox "about:config" which is the area for/to tweak
[01:14] <variant> aidan: and apt-get dist-upgrade works or not?
[01:14] <variant> aidan: sorry, apt-get update first
[01:15] <Kud|> Does Ubuntu come bundled with a Usenet program?
[01:15] <aidan> Reading package lists... Done
[01:15] <variant> aidan: great.. did it spam some stuff to the screen?
[01:15] <HighLife> Nope I checked all of my desktops and I don't have a single file browser or terminal open
[01:15] <HighLife> Closed them all and it still doesnt work
[01:15] <aidan> yeah stuff like this
[01:16] <aidan> Hit http://au.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-backports/restricted Packages
[01:16] <aidan> Hit http://au.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-backports/universe Packages
[01:16] <eXistenZ> why when formatting ext3 filesystem it takes about 2GB?
[01:16] <macd> eXistenZ, thats called filesystem overhead.
[01:16] <variant> HighLife: you can use fuser command to find out what is holding a driver open, or you can force eject it but thats not a good idea
[01:16] <chiarato> lskd-255: I opened that up but does not make any sense to me!!!
[01:16] <lskd-255> chiarato, in "about:config"   look for an entry about network pipelining
[01:16] <variant> aidan: cool, when that is finnished run apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:16] <eXistenZ> macd, Was ist das?
[01:17] <macd> eXistenZ, its called file system overhead.
[01:17] <aidan> variant
[01:17] <aidan> 889 upgraded, 136 newly installed, 37 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[01:17] <aidan> Need to get 392MB/414MB of archives.
[01:17] <aidan> After unpacking 142MB of additional disk space will be used.
[01:17] <aidan> Do you want to continue [Y/n] ?
[01:17] <lskd-255> chiarato,  read this: http://forevergeek.com/open_source/make_firefox_faster.php
[01:17] <LjL> Ubotu, tell aidan about paste | aidan, see the private message from Ubotu
[01:17] <macd> go lookuo overhead, if you dont understand the contextual meaning.
[01:17] <variant> aidan: please don't spam like that
[01:17] <LjL> eXistenZ, the filesystem needs space to store its own information - the inodes in the case of ext3
[01:17] <variant> aidan: but that is good, press y to let it work
[01:17] <HighLife> how would I use fuser in this case?
[01:17] <eXistenZ> macd, How big is it? 3GB?
[01:17] <aidan> i no but i cant be botherd learn b\ut the gay paste bun
[01:18] <macd> eXistenZ, it depends on the total size of the partition.
[01:18] <eXistenZ> macd, about 35GB
[01:18] <macd> eXistenZ, so what do you want to know, the 3gb is the space the filesystem needs for its own data, journals, etc.
[01:18] <Bakefy> \h
[01:19] <LjL> yeah, forgot the journal for ext3 too i guess
[01:19] <variant> HighLife: fuser /path/to/mountpoint should do it iirc
[01:19] <Idempotence> i have dual monitor with xinerma enabled. the problem is that when i press screen-cap, i get half the screen transparent png and only screen 1 shows. where do i set that?
[01:20] <ugarit> any recommendations for enterprise level managed linux services?
[01:20] <ardchoille42> "The shell accepts human readable commands and translates them into something the kernel can read and process."  <-- So, is it safe to say the shell is a type of interpreter?
[01:20] <macd> ugarit, you want support?
[01:20] <lskd-255> chiarato,  did you get that?
[01:20] <macd> ardchoille42, the shell is exactly that.
[01:20] <Khem> ugarit: ubuntu
[01:20] <macd> Khem, more specifically cannonical.
[01:20] <ardchoille42> macd, Ah, thanks
[01:20] <variant> LjL: bah, you banned my user :) (not mine, but the one i was helping i mean :))
[01:21] <Khem> macd: yep thats right
[01:21] <ugarit> I mean an ISP
[01:21] <chiarato> lskd-255: I was reading the page you sent me how do change to true?
[01:21] <LjL> ardchoille42: a typical shell surely *is* an interpreter. for complex shells such as bash, that's even more apparent, since you can write full-blown programs using them
[01:21] <macd> ugarit, you need support for linux? someone to hold accountable commercially?
[01:21] <lskd-255> double click
[01:21] <ardchoille42> LjL, I see. :)
[01:21] <LjL> variant: sorry ;( he did quite ask for it though
[01:21] <variant> LjL: yeah kinda
[01:22] <chiarato> lskd-255: never mind double click duh!
[01:22] <mitrovarr> does anyone know where there's a good list of what the options on the kernel line in the menu.lst of grub do?
[01:22] <HighLife> Hmm when I do fuser /media/cdrom It gives me absolutly nothing
[01:22] <variant> LjL: tis np, was gettin a little tired anyway tbh :)
[01:22] <mitrovarr> I'm trying to adjust the framebuffer console settings so I don't get blackscreens on a nvidia 8800
[01:23] <DanZ> im having an issue when installing xubuntu-desktop, "the following packages have unmet dependencies:" "gamin: Conflicts: fam but 2.7.0-10ubuntu1 is not to be installed" "gimp-svg: depends: gimp (= 2.2.13=1ubuntu1) but 2.2.13-1ubuntu3 is to be installed."
[01:23] <lskd-255> chiarato,  don't do as it says  do a lesser number  30 sounds excessive
[01:23] <ardchoille42> "cat /etc/shells"  I had no idea we had all those shells in Ubuntu
[01:23] <eXistenZ> I have a partition to store mp3s, is it preferred to make it ext3 or ext2?
[01:23] <variant> ardchoille42: there are many more available
[01:23] <mcphail> eXistenZ: ext3
[01:24] <mitrovarr> in particular, does anyone know what vga=ext does?
[01:24] <ardchoille42> variant, Really?
[01:24] <chiarato> lskd-255: like what?
[01:24] <variant> ardchoille42: jupp
[01:24] <ugarit> macd: I need to run a SaaS business on the internet and need a place to hold my data, I need root access
[01:24] <eXistenZ> mcphail, why?
[01:24] <ardchoille42> variant, I think I'll stick with bash until I master it, lol
[01:24] <variant> ardchoille42: check the wikipedia article on bash, it should list alternative shells in a link at the bottom
[01:24] <mcphail> eXistenZ: much safer if your system crashes/power cut etc
[01:24] <ardchoille42> variant, I'll do that, thanks
[01:24] <lskd-255> chiarato I don't know, 8 maybe,  it's off by default so maybe even 4 is workiable
[01:24] <macd> ugarit, so you need a linux host, Id go with a dedicated priovider with managed hosting, rackspace isnt bad, Infolink is also good.
[01:25] <variant> ardchoille42: there are some real benefits to switching, but yes, learn what you like and stick to what you prefer the most :)
[01:25] <variant> ardchoille42: I tried a few shells but keep coming back to bash
[01:25] <Goldfisch> I have a VIA EN15000 motherboard system with VIA's chrome graphics device. Are people using unichrome or openchrome to load dapper?
[01:25] <ardchoille42> variant, I will try some others, just to see what I want :)
[01:25] <HighLife> What effects could force ejecting have?
[01:25] <variant> ardchoille42: try zsh.. it's quite popular i think
[01:25] <lskd-255> chiarato, do 30 and I can almost garauntee you'll be ignored
[01:26] <ardchoille42> variant, Yeah, I have friends who swear by zsh and its features.
[01:26] <ugarit> macd thanks
[01:26] <chiarato> lskd-255: l think so too I'll do 8 and see what happens :)
[01:26] <HighLife> I think I may have to resort to that, how would I do that?
[01:26] <the1337djs> Anyone here know a good linux alternative to something like VirtualDJ?
[01:27] <lskd-255> chiarato, happy surfing@@
[01:27] <lskd-255> chiarato, happy surfing!!
[01:27] <the1337djs> Anyone here know a good linux alternative to something like VirtualDJ?
[01:27] <variant> anyone tried tribal trouble on ubuntu? it's kinda fun (demo is anyway) a settlers clone i think
[01:27] <HighLife> No one knows how to force eject?
[01:28] <the1337djs> highlife: A disc?
[01:28] <White_Lightning> I've got an ATI vid card, and editing xorg.conf doesn't seem to give me anything as far as resolution is concerned. Is there a different file I can edit to force up the resolution?
[01:28] <variant> HighLife: yes i do
[01:28] <HighLife> how?
[01:28] <the1337djs> highlife: When you right click, click eject
[01:28] <Ricket> okay umm something just went wrong when i rebooted my ubuntu... every letter is now a box.
[01:28] <the1337djs> highlife: thats a force eject
[01:28] <chiarato> lskd-255: thanks bro I hope it works thanks again for the tip!!!
[01:28] <lskd-255> no problem
[01:28] <HighLife> No I get umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[01:28] <HighLife> I need a better way
[01:29] <the1337djs> Highlife: Whats running?
[01:29] <variant> the1337djs: there is a hole in the front of the cddrive that you can shove a pin in, that will push the tray out. you have to push quite hard
[01:29] <White_Lightning> there's always the paperclip through the manual hole
[01:29] <White_Lightning> ah variant said it
[01:29] <the1337djs> variant: I didnt ask that question :P
[01:29] <mcphail> HighLife: what about "sudo umount -l /media/cdrom"
[01:29] <variant> HighLife: there is a hole in the front of the cddrive that you can shove a pin in, that will push the tray out. you have to push quite hard
[01:29] <Creedence> !ati
[01:29] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:29] <Asc> I've got a question about acidrip - if I encode an uncompressed file and tell it to specify a file size of two-thirds the original, and the resulting file is one-third the size of the original, does that mean that it has been encoded losslessly or near-losslessly and the extra size wasn't necessary?
[01:29] <Asc> (just throwing that out there in the offchance that anybody knows)
[01:30] <the1337djs> Anyone know an alternative to virtual dj?
[01:30] <ardchoille42> So, if you run "sh test.sh", and the test.sh file is 644, it doesn't need to be executable to run it? So, why make a script +x ?
[01:30] <variant> Asc: lossless would be the same file size
[01:30] <White_Lightning> ok so anyone know how to force up my resolution?
[01:30] <bruenig> !fixres
[01:30] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:30] <variant> Asc: lossless is just a container format
[01:30] <Asc> variant: Unless the resulting file is compressed
[01:30] <White_Lightning> xorg.conf doesn't have any effect for some reason
[01:31] <variant> Asc: sort of
[01:31] <HighLife> Well I did sudo unmount and tryed to eject the cd and that did not work
[01:31] <HighLife> so now I'm going to try the pin
[01:31] <bruenig> HighLife, eject /dev/hd?
[01:31] <mcphail> HighLife: umount-l?
[01:31] <Asc> variant: Probably bad phrasing on my part.  By 'lossless' I mean that it hasn't undergone a noticeable/measurable reduction in quality.
[01:31] <White_Lightning> see that's what I tried
[01:31] <variant> the1337djs: you find one yet?
[01:31] <Redhammer_the_Ol> sorry short question I cannot write to my ipod anymore
[01:31] <White_Lightning> changing the values doesn't do anything with xorg.conf
[01:31] <White_Lightning> that's why I'm confused
[01:31] <HighLife> yes
[01:31] <bruenig> HighLife, or eject /media/cdrom0
[01:31] <the1337djs> variant: Dj alternative? No
[01:31] <White_Lightning> something else HAS to be controlling it
[01:31] <Redhammer_the_Ol> i have change NOTHING on my sysytem and it worked a couple of days ago
[01:32] <bruenig> !caps
[01:32] <Redhammer_the_Ol> if I look at /etc/mtab it says
[01:32] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[01:32] <Redhammer_the_Ol> sorry
[01:32] <Redhammer_the_Ol> it was only one word
[01:32] <variant> the1337djs: there is one in particular.. i am just tryuing to get hte name
[01:32] <HighLife> eject worked!
[01:32] <White_Lightning> it's a bot you don't have to apologize
[01:32] <the1337djs> variant: Ive had 2 suggestions, 1 had a bad script. I didnt know how to install the other one
[01:32] <the1337djs> variant: one was jokosher, other was mixxx
[01:32] <variant> the1337djs: ardour
[01:32] <Redhammer_the_Ol> thanks white lightning
[01:33] <Redhammer_the_Ol> so my etc/mtab says
[01:33] <variant> the1337djs: http://www.ardour.org/
[01:33] <HighLife> I'm back up thx a ton guys
[01:33] <Redhammer_the_Ol> /dev/sdc2 /media/ipod vfat rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8 0 0
[01:33] <bruenig> White_Lightning kills the joke
[01:33] <the1337djs> variant: ty ill check it out no w
[01:33] <variant> the1337djs: I hope that is what you were looking for
[01:33] <White_Lightning> !myself
[01:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about myself - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:33] <White_Lightning> still funny
[01:33] <Redhammer_the_Ol> which is the right UID and rw but I just cannot write to it
[01:33] <the1337djs> variant: It looks good :) ty
[01:33] <bruenig> that is harmless, you can do much better
[01:33] <variant> the1337djs: ah, it's not a virtual mixing deck but..
[01:33] <LjL> White_Lightning: well, actually, it was mildly funny the first time
[01:34] <bruenig> using it to take political shots is even funnier, but getting kicked kind of nullifies the enjoyment
[01:34] <variant> White_Lightning: the man command has a couple of good ones.. try "man woman" in a terminal
[01:34] <the1337djs> variant: can you walk me through installation
[01:34] <the1337djs> variant: I have no clue how to
[01:34] <White_Lightning> lol I love that one
[01:34] <White_Lightning> I just wish I could get my resolution higher
[01:34] <White_Lightning> I've got it at 1280x768
[01:35] <White_Lightning> but changing xorg doesn't give me any more options
[01:35] <Redhammer_the_Ol> any ideas on the ipod write issue ?
[01:35] <variant> the1337djs: here is the walk through: sudo apt-get install ardour-gtk
[01:35] <variant> the1337djs: :)
[01:35] <White_Lightning> even having only the single resolution listed and taking 1280x768 right OFF doesn't fix it
[01:35] <the1337djs> variant: lol. Thanks much
[01:35] <White_Lightning> I mean it should, theoretically, have only the one option for screen res right?
[01:35] <White_Lightning> so why doesn't it follow it?
[01:36] <White_Lightning> what's controlling it?
[01:36] <variant> White_Lightning: big brother
[01:36] <lskd-255> White_Lightning, what's the trouble?
[01:36] <lskd-255> I bet it's your 'system config'
[01:36] <White_Lightning> I wasnt to change my resolution from 1280x768 to 1.5 times that size
[01:36] <mindstate> anyone know of any remote blog tools? i've tried Drivel and BloGTK and neither work
[01:36] <White_Lightning> but xorg.conf doesn't have any sway over it for some reason
[01:36] <lskd-255> apps/systemtools/system configuration
[01:37] <White_Lightning> I'll look at that
[01:37] <lskd-255> rather config editor
[01:37] <nemo_play> Say, how would I go about acquiring a more recent ubuntu kernel than 2.6.18 as of, oh, December-ish
[01:37] <nemo_play> been running into a USB bug
[01:37] <lskd-255> .............. /desktop/gnome/screen/default/0/resolution
[01:37] <lskd-255> it will load the res you want
[01:37] <White_Lightning> where's that at
[01:37] <lskd-255> menus
[01:38] <White_Lightning> I mean where's the app folder
[01:38] <lskd-255> apps/systemtools/config editor
[01:38] <speedracer_> hey all ... i'm really interested in installing beryl, but i'm not sure what I need.  I'm trying to read about Compiz, XGL, AIGLX and i'm not sure what I'm going to need to make beryl work  i have an integrated intel 845
[01:38] <White_Lightning> in etc?
[01:38] <lskd-255> deskbar
[01:38] <the1337djs> variant: i get an error when trying to run it
[01:38] <variant> the1337djs: about jack?
[01:38] <the1337djs> variant: yes
[01:38] <the1337djs> variant: could not connect ot jack
[01:38] <Asc> nemo_play: google 'linux kernel archives'.  download, compile, and install.  Or you might be able to get whatever's in Feisty if you can find an apt-get god to tell you how.
[01:39] <nemo_play> Asc: that's the option I was more looking for.
[01:39] <nemo_play> been trying to avoid mucking with the distro more than I have to.
[01:39] <macd> mixing repos isnt a great idea ;)
[01:39] <lskd-255> gnome-panel applet............. you might need to access the system folder there with menu editor
[01:39] <nemo_play> Is my brother's laptop
[01:39] <variant> the1337djs: sorry, I don't know how to fix it
[01:39] <variant> the1337djs: will look into it
[01:39] <nemo_play> Asc: I'd like to stick with "stable" but just get a kernel with the patch in it
[01:39] <the1337djs> variant: okay, thanks. How did you know it was about jack?
[01:39] <nemo_play> Asc: hm. a backported patch would work too
[01:39] <nemo_play> Asc: ubuntu does those, right?
[01:39] <lskd-255> right click over applications and make the system tools folder visible
[01:40] <macd> nemo_play, compiling a new kernel is not that bad, since the kernel configuration files would stay the same, you wouldnt have todo the mundayne config.
[01:40] <Asc> nemo_play: If you mean the ubuntu patches, I don't know how to go about doing that.
[01:40] <Flannel> !kernel | nemo_play
[01:40] <ubotu> nemo_play: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[01:40] <lskd-255> .............. /desktop/gnome/screen/default/0/resolution
[01:40] <variant> the1337djs: cus i'm installing it too and got the same error :)
[01:40] <the1337djs> variant: oh, lol :)
[01:40] <variant> the1337djs: apt-get install jack qjackctl
[01:41] <lskd-255> White_Lightning, are you there?
[01:41] <White_Lightning> still not finding it
[01:41] <White_Lightning> yeah but I can't find anything like that
[01:41] <White_Lightning> is there just a direct location of the file?
[01:41] <the1337djs> variant: says could not open lock file
[01:41] <lskd-255> configuration editor is a little program that is like the registry in winblows
[01:41] <sivik> the1337djs, thats probably cause your already using apt-get or synaptic
[01:42] <White_Lightning> but I can't get it to run
[01:42] <mabus> My acx chipset card will work on ubuntu desktop, but not on ubuntu server. The module is loaded but there is an error with the firmware. Can anyone give me an idea as to how to fix this?
[01:42] <lskd-255> White_Lightning, you might need to enable it with the menu editor
[01:42] <Flannel> White_Lightning: you need to install gconf to get configuration editor
[01:42] <the1337djs> sivik: no still comes up
[01:42] <lskd-255> right click on applications
[01:42] <sivik> the1337djs, hum
[01:43] <lskd-255> 'edit menus'
[01:43] <lskd-255> find system tools and find in that config editor
[01:43] <netsrot> how do I set root pass?
[01:43] <dwhsi1> 'evening - mplayer only plays audio, not video, of .wmv files... thoughts?
[01:43] <lskd-255> check mark that and close
[01:44] <jpass1> howdy
[01:44] <lskd-255> back to the app menu find it there and then find......
[01:44] <White_Lightning> ah there we go
[01:44] <lskd-255> .............. /desktop/gnome/screen/default/0/resolution
[01:44] <White_Lightning> so where was the res thing
[01:44] <variant> the1337djs: I have to go to bed now, check here for instructions though: www.ubuntustudio.com
[01:44] <jpass1> i was looking for some help. I'm relativly computer savy so I did spend time trying to find the answer
[01:44] <jpass1> but anyway....
[01:44] <jpass1> i'm trying to set up my ubuntu on my laptop
[01:44] <the1337djs> variant: thanks alot
[01:44] <jpass1> and set up for audio recording
[01:44] <jpass1> i've almost got it
[01:44] <lskd-255> see what that says
[01:45] <Asc> dwhsi1: you probably need the extra codecs - you can download them from the mplayer website.
[01:45] <White_Lightning> desktop/gnome I've got, but the onl S I have is sound
[01:45] <jpass1> but when i run audacity it does not allow me to choose my sound card so I think i saw that I had to install alsa oss emulation...
[01:45] <jpass1> so i did and then i read to launch audacity from the terminal....by doing aoss audacity
[01:46] <jpass1> and voila! my sound card is now listed ( i think) it says dev/dsp1 has been added to the list
[01:46] <jpass1> but when i hit record it immediatly crashses and says "killing hung audio thread"
[01:46] <CarCase928> hello, what is the command for deleting a directory? i forgot what it is.
[01:46] <White_Lightning> rmdir
[01:46] <high-freq> any ideas on gettin xchat to send/recieve via DCC....others can't send me nuttin for some reason
[01:46] <Asc> dwhsi1: It's also possible you could just install something called w32codecs, but I've not tried that without the mplayer extra codecs.
[01:46] <CarCase928> thank you
[01:46] <jpass1> so...i read that i need to ad my user to the audio group
[01:47] <jpass1> i did  ID in the terminal and a list came up and it noted (9)audio so I assume i'm already included in the audio group
[01:47] <jpass1> no?
[01:47] <netsrot> I wasn't asked about any root pass during install, am I suposed to set it after and how?
[01:47] <Flannel> netsrot: you don't.  Ubuntu doesn;t use the root account
[01:48] <Flannel> !sudo | netsrot
[01:48] <ubotu> netsrot: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:48] <netsrot> ok thanks
[01:48] <CarCase928> how do i share my internet connection without a router?
[01:49] <jpass1> why don't you hook your router to your internet connection?
[01:49] <jpass1> then plug your computer to your raouter?
[01:49] <CarCase928> i don't have one anymore, i bricked it
[01:49] <jpass1> the router?
[01:49] <CarCase928> yes
[01:49] <jpass1> i guess i don't understand the question
[01:50] <jpass1> you are trying to shrae your internet connection with a router?
[01:50] <jpass1> that you don't have?
[01:50] <lskd-255> CarCase928, do you have a modem attached?
[01:50] <lskd-255> or was the router a modem type
[01:51] <CarCase928> lskd-z55: yes, i have the modem plugged into the computer
[01:51] <jpass1> anyone use audacity with a second sound card on ubuntu?
[01:51] <CarCase928> lskd-255: yes, i do
[01:52] <jpass1> car, how did you get audacity to notice your sound card?
[01:52] <jpass1> well
[01:52] <jpass1> i have actually acheived that by doing aoss audacity in terminal
[01:52] <jpass1> then i can select dev/dsp1 now
[01:52] <lskd-255> CarCase928, I have no router and a modem,  I have no card either......... I took the cat5 out of the modem and had a usb plug adapter that ahd a cat5 connection on it..... linksys make those
[01:52] <jpass1> before it would use my sound card on the laptop which blows
[01:52] <NkZ> #Greetings: I just installed my HP PS1400, I wanted to know if there is any aplication that would let me configurate it (Cartridge management, clean up cartridges, alieate them)
[01:52] <jpass1> now atleast it lists my second sound card
[01:53] <jpass1> but when i change it in perferences then try to record
[01:53] <lskd-255> CarCase928, I often times type slow, sorry :\
[01:53] <jpass1> it immediatly crashes and says "killing hung audio thread"...."killed"
[01:53] <jpass1> so i read that i may need to include my user in the audio group
[01:53] <jpass1> so i found that you can type "id" in the terminal window
[01:53] <jpass1> and it comes up with a list
[01:53] <nexeus> is there any1 that can help me with mplayer Cline  use
[01:54] <nexeus> ?
[01:54] <jpass1> and it appears my user is part of the audio group but i can't tell for certain
[01:54] <jpass1> maybe that is what i need to ask
[01:54] <NkZ> #Greetings: I just installed my HP PS1400, I wanted to know if there is any aplication that would let me configurate it (Cartridge management, clean up cartridges, alieate them) Anyone knows?
[01:54] <jpass1> how do i determine if my user is part of the audio group?
[01:54] <White_Lightning> I can't find any screen or display settings anywhere in the configuration editor
[01:54] <dirk_> ok I'm back does anyone out there have an atheros wirless card?
[01:54] <dirk_> I can get a connection at home but not anywhere else
[01:54] <CarCase928> lskd-255: what i want to turn my computer into a router, i have a network hub, but that requires a computer with a shared internet connection to work. it is possible to chare the internet connection on windows with ICS (Internet Connection Sharing), but i want to know if i can do the same on ubuntu.
[01:54] <Zambezi> Have anyone here used a virutal installation of Windows on Ubuntu?
[01:55] <dirk_> not sure why, someone said it might be wpa
[01:55] <CarCase928> lskd-255: i want to
[01:55] <dirk_> any ideas?
[01:55] <nexeus> is there any1 that can help me with mplayer Comandline  option
[01:55] <jriffle> is "50276"  50 MB or 50 kilobytes? /dev/sda3                67745     13855     50276  22% /boot
[01:55] <jpass1> dirk, maybe the netowork you are trying to connect to is requires a key
[01:55] <jpass1> are you sure the network is open?
[01:55] <Rude-Boy> jpass1, I am a newbie too, but I located this thread via Google
[01:55] <lskd-255> yes, ubuntu can do anything windows does
[01:55] <Rude-Boy> http://audacityteam.org/forum/thread/2110
[01:56] <jpass1> if it works at home
[01:56] <Pici> jpass1: grep <user> /etc/group
[01:56] <dirk_> none of the networks I trie to connect to have any encryption
[01:56] <jpass1> pici THANKS!
[01:56] <jpass1> brb
[01:56] <lskd-255> <---  I need dinner
[01:56] <nemo_play> I agree with ubotu  I shouldn't have to compile one
[01:56] <Ricket> This should be an easy question for you Ubuntu users: how do I make a program automatically run in the background when I start up my computer?
[01:57] <nemo_play> I only need one tiny patch in the main branch, I don't want to have to worry about any module conflicts it will generate. I'd like it all to just work as a distro ought
[01:57] <CarCase928> lskd-255: if ubuntu can do anything that windows does, i guess it can share the internet connection
[01:57] <cablesm102> Ricket, what do you mean, the background?
[01:57] <jpass1> pici, so i see audio:x:29:jesse
[01:57] <jpass1> i'm assuming that means i'm setup for audio group
[01:57] <nemo_play> given gentoo and fedora are on 2.6.18 - surely that one must be available somewhere for ubuntu just by tweaking something in apt-get no?
[01:57] <Ricket> cablesm102: well ignore that part then. just, how do i make a program run when i start up the computer?
[01:57] <NkZ> I just installed my HP PS1400, I wanted to know if there is any aplication that would let me configurate it (Cartridge management, clean up cartridges, alieate them) Anyone knows?
[01:58] <jpass1> pici, do you use Audacity at all?
[01:58] <Pici> jpass1: no, sorry I dont
[01:58] <Rude-Boy> Ricket,  I followed directions for editing /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh  - adding the command line you want to execute near the botom before the very last line of code will make it run on startup, apparently
[01:58] <lskd-255> carcase,    sharing .......... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370
[01:58] <cablesm102> Ricket, go to System>Preferences>Sessions, go to the Startup Programs tab, hit Add, and type in the name of the program.
[01:58] <laserbeak43> hi
[01:58] <Rude-Boy> there you go, lol  i'm a noob
[01:58] <nexeus> ricket: conky is the word i think
[01:58] <Ricket> cablesm102: thanks
[01:58] <jpass1> my problem was that audacity was not recognizing my second soudn card. now when i figured i needed alsa oss emulation or soemthing....it now notices a second sound card...i think
[01:58] <Ricket> nexeus: conky??
[01:58] <laserbeak43> how do i edit a file in root mode on edubuntu without using comman propt?
[01:58] <nexeus> desktop applet
[01:58] <jpass1> does dev/dsp and dev/dsp1 mean two differnt sound cards?
[01:58] <laserbeak43> command prompt
[01:59] <Cryoniq> Anyone know a dictionary program working with gnome that can translate Romaji-English and the reversed?
[01:59] <cablesm102> laserbeak43, you need to make a "launcher" that runs the command "gksudo gedit"
[01:59] <laserbeak43> hmme
[01:59] <laserbeak43> how do i do that cablesm102?
[02:00] <Cryoniq> That is Japanese Romaji<->English...
[02:00] <jriffle> if i type df /boot and it shows /dev/sda3 =   67745     13855     50276  22% /boot is 50276 = 50 MB or 50 Kbyte ?
[02:00] <White_Lightning> while I look for the solution on my own here, does anyone know if there's a way to change the background color during the splash screen?
[02:00] <joselj> hi everybody
[02:00] <Ricket> Another question: how do I make Ubuntu's keyboard shortcuts manager recognize special keyboard keys? (I'm using a multimedia keyboard, with a log off button, and i want it to lock screen on press...)
[02:00] <cablesm102> laserbeak43, right click on the desktop and hit Create Launcher. Fill in the name (how 'bout "root gedit") and for the command, use gksudo gedit.
[02:01] <laserbeak43> cool thanks
[02:01] <cablesm102> laserbeak43, you can then drag it wherever you want, including panels
[02:01] <Cryoniq> Ricket: You checked if your keyboard is under System->Preferences->Keyboard? =)
[02:01] <joselj> does anyone know if there is program for ubuntu like locknote?
[02:01] <Cryoniq> Ricket: under gnome that is
[02:02] <laserbeak43> niiice
[02:02] <cablesm102> laserbeak43, I'm wrong... you have to right click on the panel and click Add To Panel and make a launcher that way if you want it to be on the panel.
[02:02] <Cryoniq> Ricket: there was a ton of keyboards listed in there to choose from when I looked at it last time. It didnt have Logitech G15 for me though, but I choose another multimedia logitech and super key etc started working for me then :)
[02:03] <laserbeak43> cablesm102 thanks a lot
[02:03] <laserbeak43> that is really nice
[02:03] <laserbeak43> :)
[02:03] <CarCase928> how do i install windows drivers on ubuntu?
[02:03] <Cryoniq> 0o
[02:03] <nexeus> I need help with mplayer any1 plz
[02:03] <cablesm102> CarCase928, you can do that for wireless, and that's about it.
[02:03] <Ricket> Cryoniq: any idea how to add keyboards? Mine isn't there, I'm not sure if any other keyboard has as many keys as this one :)
[02:03] <cablesm102> nexeus, why don't you tell us the problem?
[02:04] <nexeus> ok
[02:04] <nemo_play> Cryoniq: you should ask in #nihongo
[02:04] <nemo_play> er
[02:04] <CarCase928> thank you
[02:04] <nemo_play> #japanese
[02:04] <netsrot> when I use the package manager and try to remove all open office stuff I get error, isn't it possible to remove?
[02:04] <Cryoniq> thanks nemo_play :)
[02:04] <nemo_play> Cryoniq: but anyway, there's one for KDE and one for Gnome
[02:04] <nemo_play> Cryoniq: the Gnome one was written in ruby, the KDE one is called Kiten
[02:04] <NkZ> How can I use the HP PSC 1410 Scanner?
[02:04] <nexeus> cablesm102,  i try to player mkv vid on mplayer comand line
[02:05] <cablesm102> !ubuntu-desktop | netsrot
[02:05] <ubotu> netsrot: k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[02:05] <nemo_play> alright. given lack of familiarity with kernel updates here, guess I'll wander off. later y'all
[02:05] <joselj> does anyone know how can i add/modify  mime types?
[02:05] <Cryoniq> Ah.. I am learning japanese so now when I fully migrated to Linux I was thinking that such things must exist surely :P
[02:05] <cablesm102> nemo_play, what's the issue?
[02:05] <NkZ> How can I access any HP PSC 1410 manager to let me clean cartridges and align them?
[02:05] <nemo_play> Cryoniq: s/KDE/Qt s/Gnome/GTK/
[02:05] <nemo_play> cablesm102: would like a 2.6.18 kernel without having to build my own
[02:05] <cablesm102> NkZ, use a Windows computer
[02:05] <nemo_play> cablesm102: there's a USB flaw that was fixed last summer
[02:05] <LjL> nemo_play, no, a new kernel is not available as a package for Edgy. it is for Feisty
[02:06] <nexeus> cablesm102, I use mplayer -slang en *.mkv but font has gone super size lol
[02:06] <Cryoniq> Watashiwa sukoshi nihongo ga wakarimasu :)
[02:06] <cablesm102> nexeus, I don't know how to do it, I was just suggesting that you tell the problem to everyone else.
[02:06] <nemo_play> Cryoniq: you really should hang out in #japanese ;)
[02:06] <NkZ> Cablesm102 I rather cut off my genitals. :-P
[02:06] <Cryoniq> =)
[02:06] <nexeus> lol
[02:06] <LjL> nemo_play: there's absolutely no guarantees that the Feisty kernel will work on Edgy - actually, chances are it won't. see perhaps in #ubuntu+1 if someone has ever tried that
[02:06] <nemo_play> LjL: sooo, feisty is the Ubuntu-speek for unstable branch?
[02:06] <cablesm102> NkZ, I completely understand you... but you'll have to endure the pain.
[02:06] <LjL> nemo_play: currently, yes
[02:06] <boricua> !wink
[02:06] <ubotu> Wink is a Tutorial and Presentation creation software, primarily aimed at creating tutorials on how to use software. Using Wink you can capture screenshots, add explanations boxes, buttons, titles etc and generate a highly effective tutorial for your users || http://www.debugmode.com/wink/
[02:06] <nemo_play> LjL: that's the sorta stuff that bugs me. his machine is using a lot of wierd stuff
[02:06] <LjL> Ubotu, tell nemo_play about feisty | nemo_play, see the private message from Ubotu
[02:07] <cablesm102> nemo_play, no... it's the codename for the next stable version. I guess right now you could call it that...
[02:07] <nemo_play> LjL: Nvidia graphics card, ethernet card and network card
[02:07] <boricua> anyone here used wink  not sure what file to send to share presentation
[02:07] <NkZ> Cablesm102 the "Scan" button will work? Or, is there any way to align the cartridges? If I have to do it through terminal I will.
[02:07] <cablesm102> S
[02:07] <LjL> nemo_play: ethernet card and network card? =)
[02:07] <cablesm102> damn enter key
[02:07] <nemo_play> cablesm102: so, how far is this thing from stabilising.
[02:07] <NkZ> But I don't wanna become a Windozer again.
[02:07] <joselj> does anyone know how can i add/modify  mime types?
[02:07] <nemo_play> LjL: some stupid nvidia invention.  I think it is like a combo chip
[02:07] <cablesm102> nemo_play, it's scheduled for release in April
[02:07] <Cryoniq> Feisty Fawn.. that makes me think of Leroy Jenkins: "At least I got chicken" :P
[02:07] <nemo_play> LjL: He's using an eMachine I picked up for 300 bucks
[02:07] <St3althy> hey what user and group does the webserver use for ubuntu
[02:08] <St3althy> nobody and??
[02:08] <cablesm102> !feisty | nemo_play
[02:08] <ubotu> nemo_play: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[02:08] <krang> I just played a video that told me "too many packets in video buffer" and killed my sound. How do I get it back? I assume I just have to restart some service or the other
[02:08] <Cryoniq> !Windows Vista is the devil
[02:08] <LjL> nemo_play: oh. well anyway, if the Ubuntu install is a fresh install with nothing important on it, i guess you've got nothing to lose by just trying and sticking the Feisty kernel on it
[02:08] <FantasticFoo> what app do you guys recommend for playing music in linux?
[02:08] <St3althy> anyone
[02:08] <LjL> !players | FantasticFoo
[02:08] <ubotu> FantasticFoo: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[02:08] <cablesm102> FantasticFoo, Amarok is good
[02:08] <nemo_play> LjL: I'm remote.  I really can't screw up his machine from 4000km away
[02:09] <NkZ> FantasticFoo: Try XMMS
[02:09] <nemo_play> Audacious!
[02:09] <nemo_play> Audacious kicks ass
[02:09] <nexeus> Im using mplayer -slang en filename.mkv in terminal for subtitle movie but the font has gone very large anyone know how to change it back to normal ?????
[02:09] <nemo_play> like XMMS only actually maintained
[02:09] <FantasticFoo> NkZ: i use that currently, just wondered if there was anything better
[02:09] <NkZ> I like XMMS
[02:09] <nemo_play> plus, is both in apt-get and they have official ubuntu packages now
[02:09] <gnuwtey> hi... i'm trying to mount an xfs hard drive onto ubuntu...help!
[02:09] <nemo_play> XMMS is ancient
[02:09] <LjL> nemo_play: hm, i see. well, i can positively say that there's no kernel package newer than 2.6.17 that's anywhere near guaranteed to work with Edgy, sorry
[02:09] <NkZ> Ancient Is good.
[02:10] <gnuwtey> oh, btw, i'm using dapper drake
[02:10] <nemo_play> LjL: Aight, so I'll tell him his choices are to have USB die randomly 'till April, or take a chance on unstable
[02:10] <frogzoo> FantasticFoo: try audacious
[02:10] <frogzoo> !audacious | FantasticFoo
[02:10] <ubotu> FantasticFoo: A !repository for the Audacious audio player now exists: see http://audacious-media-player.org/Downloads
[02:10] <nexeus> Im using mplayer -slang en filename.mkv in terminal for subtitle movie but the font has gone very large anyone know how to change it back to normal ?????
[02:10] <cablesm102> !windows | nemo_play
[02:10] <ubotu> nemo_play: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[02:10] <cablesm102> i guess that was uncalled for, sorry
[02:10] <gnuwtey> anyone?
[02:10] <LjL> nemo_play: or do a kernel compile, i guess
[02:10] <thommarqu> Hello room, I am running Ubuntu Dapper and just did a port scan on my machine with nmap. It shows windows ports such as microsoft-ds port 445 and and netbios-ssn port 139. Any reason this could be happining??
[02:10] <St3althy> hey anyone here know what group NOBODY is apart of?
[02:11] <nemo_play> LjL: yeah, but that one would almost certainly kill his networking and video
[02:11] <thommarqu> happen^
[02:11] <nemo_play> LjL: and require updating more than I want to try doing from here
[02:11] <alex777> I have a problem with a sata hdd
[02:11] <nemo_play> thommarqu: you running Samba?
[02:11] <Ricket> man there is just one, maybe two keys on my keyboard that aren't recognized... and they're the most useful lol: log off and sleep
[02:11] <LjL> nemo_play: well, just keep in mind that Feisty *is* unstable, meaning that it's quite possible for updates to break little things like X
[02:11] <alex777> my bios sees the new sata hdd, but ubuntu doesn't
[02:11] <Cryoniq> 0o there is a gnome mud client.. havent played MUD since.. ages..
[02:12] <nemo_play> LjL: due to the unstable thing I'm also worried about more esoteric drivers like his not making it out, immediately.
[02:12] <cablesm102> I'm having an issue with sound. My fn-volume keys on my laptop control the Master volume, and I can't find a way to change it to my Headphone volume. Can anyone help?
[02:12] <Cryoniq> brings back sweet memories of tons of keycombos of n e w s to get somewhere :P
[02:12] <alex777> I have an Intel D865GLC mobo
[02:12] <gnuwtey> please...anyone?
[02:12] <gnuwtey> i'm trying to mount an xfs drive onto dapper drake
[02:12] <crimsun> cablesm102: pastebin (see topic) the output from ``lspci -nv''
[02:13] <thommarqu> well this machine is actually my dads :) I am not sure what he is running but how can I find out? I actually did a port scan on our LAN and found these ports. I thought someone was using our connection since we have no windows machine in the house. I did ip addr on his machine and found out his LAN ip was showing up with these windows ports.
[02:13] <Yashiro> hiya ppl
[02:13] <Yashiro> can someone help me to make beryl work?
[02:13] <xhaan> n e ne n e se in down e se... :p
[02:13] <frogzoo> Yashiro: beryl 'just works'
[02:13] <jrib> St3althy: http://ftp.debian.org/doc/base-passwd/users-and-groups.html
[02:13] <Yashiro> i followed this guide http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_AIGLX#Enable_AIGLX_.26_Configure_the_X_server
[02:13] <Yashiro> and it didn't work
[02:13] <Yashiro> D:!
[02:13] <cablesm102> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3772/
[02:13] <frogzoo> Yashiro: what vid card?
[02:14] <Drewby> hey guys
[02:14] <Yashiro> ati radeon xpress 200m
[02:14] <bruenig> !hi | Drewby
[02:14] <ubotu> Drewby: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:14] <Drewby> I need some help installing ubuntu on an Inspiron E1505
[02:14] <frogzoo> Yashiro: for ati, you have to use xgl with beryl
[02:14] <nexeus> Yashiro, no chance use xgl
[02:14] <nemo_play> LjL: one more thing, being new to ubuntu.  once Feisty is released, will auto-updating be possible, or will it require manual changes or a CD?
[02:14] <Drewby> ubotu: Hello, thank you.
[02:14] <bruenig> !thanks | Drewby
[02:14] <crimsun> cablesm102: and the output from ``cat /proc/asound/modules''
[02:14] <ubotu> Drewby: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[02:14] <nemo_play> ... manual repo changes
[02:14] <nexeus> Yashiro, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=168618
[02:14] <Drewby> And I feel like a jackass
[02:15] <Yashiro> nexeus: i'll check
[02:15] <riotkittie> heh
[02:15] <frogzoo> ubotus is a bot?
[02:15] <bruenig> Drewby, little more specific on your help
[02:15] <LjL> nemo_play: there's an updater tool (changing the repos manually is not quite recommended... can be done, but sometimes it breaks things)
[02:15] <Drewby> ummm
[02:15] <Drewby> well
[02:15] <LjL> Ubotu, tell nemo_play about upgrade | nemo_play, see the private message from Ubotu
[02:15] <riotkittie> ubotu is my daddy
[02:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is my daddy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:15] <cablesm102> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3773/
[02:16] <riotkittie> gah
[02:16] <Drewby> It say that I need to install using the 686 kernel
[02:16] <kazuka2> hey riotkittie
[02:16] <Drewby> and uninstall the 386 kernel
[02:16] <kazuka2> riotkittie: hi
[02:16] <Hansin321> hello ubotu
[02:16] <gnuwtey> ubotu, mount. xfs. drive. can't.
[02:16] <kazuka2> hey Hansin321
[02:16] <riotkittie> hey kazuka2
[02:16] <nemo_play> LjL: thanks. alrighty. good enough for now. later y'all
[02:16] <Cryoniq> I saw a program called Icemon and the description made me belive it was a monitor application for icecream manufacturing.. lol
[02:16] <Yashiro> nexeus: i have this driver OpenGL version string: 2.0.6174 (8.31.5)
[02:16] <nexeus> what player can i use to play mkv file with subs on
[02:16] <kazuka2> riotkittie: asl pls
[02:16] <crimsun> cablesm102: do your volume hotkeys also have LEDs attached for mute/vol up/down?
[02:16] <Drewby> But as of this momen I am having trouble even getting it to finish loading when I click start or instelal ubuntu.
[02:16] <dimeo> ubotu tell me about the bush conspiracy to take over the world, please
[02:16] <riotkittie> uh.
[02:16] <Cryoniq> <--- njeewb :D
[02:16] <Drewby> moment*
[02:16] <sivik> dimeo, whats this taking over the world bs you speak of
[02:17] <riotkittie> did i just get asl'ed? here? seriously?
[02:17] <nexeus> Yashiro,  try glxinfo
[02:17] <nemo_play> oh. and FantasticFoo - Audacious double plus good
[02:17] <riotkittie> ok. thats my cue to flee
[02:17] <kazuka2> ???
[02:17] <kazuka2> pls asl
[02:17] <cablesm102> crimsun, no. They show up in System>Prefs>Keyboard Shortcuts, but there's no option for what volume to change, and my soundcard seems to control headphone and speaker volume separately.
[02:17] <Yashiro> nexeus: direct rendering: yes :D
[02:17] <kazuka2> riotkittie: asl pls
[02:17] <FantasticFoo> nemo_play cool
[02:17] <crimsun> cablesm102: no, I mean does your laptop itself have LEDs for volume?
[02:18] <Yashiro> nexeus: server glx vendor string: SGI
[02:18] <crimsun> cablesm102: like a mute on/off indicator LED
[02:18] <cablesm102> crimsun, no. I was just mentioning some other stuff as well.
[02:18] <nexeus> Yashiro,  ?? SGi
[02:18] <Drewby> How can I install using only the 686 kernel?
[02:18] <kazuka2> riotkittie: asl pls
[02:18] <Yashiro> nexeus: dunno what it means =p
[02:18] <gnuwtey> can someone pleeeeeeease help me?
[02:18] <kazuka2> im out
[02:18] <gnuwtey> otherwise i'll go to the forums
[02:18] <Yashiro> nexeus: i'll pastebin my glxinfo
[02:19] <gnuwtey> (mounting an xfs drive on dapper drake)
[02:19] <nexeus> Yashiro, u have ati card yes/no
[02:19] <Yashiro> yes
[02:19] <Yashiro> nexeus: i'm in my compaq presario v2417LA
[02:20] <nexeus> Yashiro,  get flgrx in xorg.conf http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=143283&highlight=ati+driver
[02:20] <nexeus> yash
[02:20] <crimsun> cablesm102: sec.
[02:20] <DigitalNinja> is there a way to rip a dvd and keep the menu?
[02:20] <Yashiro> nexeus: i have fglrx 8.31.5
[02:20] <adamonline45>  I want to run a simple CGI counter on my server.  I'm using a chroot'ed 'jail', so only the directory /www and its subdirectories are seen by the http daemon.  Is there a way to compile a shell script so that it can be run in a standalone fashion, without having to duplicate my /dev, /bin, /sbin, etc. directories into /www/dev, /www/bin, /www/sbin, etc. directories?
[02:21] <mabus> My acx chipset card will work on ubuntu desktop, but not on ubuntu server. The module is loaded but there is an error with the firmware. Can anyone give me an idea as to how to fix this?
[02:21] <nexeus> Yashiro, use these up until u get only ati when doing flgrxinfo
[02:21] <dimeo> digitalninja  k9copy
[02:21] <Yashiro> nexeus: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3774/
[02:21] <dimeo> check the keep menu option
[02:22] <riotkittie> is it safe yet? <looks around>
[02:22] <dimeo> always is... if anyone steps outta line they get beaten with a fish
[02:22] <crimsun> cablesm102: does the following command help?  ``kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*) && sudo modprobe -r $(lsmod |grep ^snd|awk '{print $1}') && sudo modprobe snd-intel8x0 ac97_quirk=hp_only''
[02:23] <cablesm102> crimsun, before I run it, can I ask you what it does?
[02:23] <dimeo> wow thats a mouthfull crimsun
[02:23] <frogzoo> adamonline45: you just need the libraries: ldd `which bash`
[02:23] <high-freq> anyone know where to get the Indeo Video codec for xine or aviplay or mplayer or sumtin?
[02:23] <cablesm102> The problem isn't hardware, it's the fact that my volume control buttons control the wrong slider in the volume control.
[02:23] <dimeo> cable: reformats your system?!
[02:23] <nexeus> Yashiro,  how you lauch beryl
[02:23] <crimsun> cablesm102: kills all programs accessing the sound devices, unloads the sound drivers, and reloads the sound drivers with a specific headphone-only option.
[02:23] <Drewby> uuhh guys
[02:23] <DigitalNinja> dimeo: Yes! I've used that in the past.
[02:23] <Yashiro> nexeus: alt+F2 -> beryl-manager
[02:24] <Bottazzo> anyone know any software that make a way to put a video in wallpaper ? like windows vista system ?
[02:24] <dimeo> digital: first time I did I made the mistake of not checking the keep menus option.. duh
[02:24] <adamonline45> frogzoo: You mean, I _should_ just add the libraries into /www, so they can be seen by the daemon?
[02:24] <riotkittie> video in wallpaper? ew.
[02:24] <cablesm102> crimsun, that's not what I want to do. I just want to set the buttons to operate a different slider in Volume Control. However, I'll do it, provided its effect only lasts until I reboot it.
[02:24] <nexeus> Yashiro,  and you get what sort of prob with it
[02:24] <Yashiro> yup
[02:24] <Yashiro> it just don't start
[02:24] <Yashiro> i don't get splash screen
[02:24] <dimeo> I also learned that right clicking on a DVD to make an iso and burning that ... well it doesn't work that easy =)
[02:24] <crimsun> cablesm102: gnome 2.18 has that functionality.
[02:24] <Yashiro> if i force it, i get no window border
[02:25] <cablesm102> crimsun, is that in Edgy?
[02:25] <DigitalNinja> dimeo: Are the DVD movies bigger then a normal DVD (4.5gb)?
[02:25] <crimsun> cablesm102: no, in feisty.
[02:25] <cablesm102> crimsun, I mean Feisty
[02:25] <cablesm102> ah
[02:25] <cablesm102> thanks
[02:25] <dimeo> digital: can often be
[02:25] <crimsun> cablesm102: but your quirk is known for certain system IDs.
[02:25] <dimeo> you can try xdvdshrink
[02:25] <qos> hey guys
[02:25] <cablesm102> !hi | qos
[02:25] <ubotu> qos: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:25] <riotkittie> doh. i need to install herd 2 and update to 3.
[02:26] <frogzoo> adamonline45: well if it was me I wouldn't be running cgis from a bash script, but anywhere the linker will find them is fine
[02:26] <nexeus> Yashiro, did you get xgl run
[02:26] <dimeo> ubotu is showing favoritism?
[02:26] <jrib> Bottazzo: you could do mplayer -fs -rootwin ...
[02:26] <crimsun> riotkittie: waiting for 3 is preferred
[02:26] <DigitalNinja> dimeo: I think the last time I used k9copy I couldn't fit the menu on the 4.5GB DVD
[02:27] <Bottazzo> jrib, what this command do ?
[02:27] <riotkittie> waiting?
[02:27] <Yashiro> nexeus: when i used 6.06 it worked pretty fine
[02:27] <cablesm102> Does anyone else here think that the bootup time of Ubuntu seems long just because usplash doesn't move evenly? It should just use average times to move the bar after the first boot.
[02:27] <dimeo> digital:  you can backup the core part and drop the features... that can help sometime
[02:27] <jrib> Bottazzo: what you asked
[02:27] <qos> after my last update (beryl and libgtk was updated) beryl doesn't run anymore. firefox is absolutly slow and runs with 100% cpu capacity. does anyone know where to search the problem?
[02:27] <Drewby> bye all
[02:27] <Drewby> I'll contact you all later
[02:27] <adamonline45> frogzoo: I got five listings in response to that query.  Do you know what I should do with those? Install them, copy them? Which language would you recommend? I don't know perl; is C acceptable by your standards?
[02:27] <Drewby> When I can more precisely explain the problem.
[02:27] <riotkittie> bye Drewby
[02:28] <jrib> Bottazzo: you might need to stop nautilus from controlling the desktop though, not sure
[02:28] <Asc> cablesm102: could be.  I disable the splash and it seems to boot pretty quickly.
[02:28] <crimsun> cablesm102: that will fall over if any part of the boot process subsequently changes.
[02:28] <frogzoo> adamonline45: perl is good
[02:28] <Asc> cablesm102: Of course, I haven't used the splash since I worked how to disable it around 5.10
[02:28] <cablesm102> crimsun, maybe some sort of movement smoothing thing?
[02:28] <frogzoo> adamonline45: you need to copy the libraries across, easiest is so they have the same path within the chroot as where they came from
[02:28] <nexeus> Yashiro, r u using edgy
[02:29] <Yashiro> yup
[02:29] <crimsun> cablesm102: write a specification :)
[02:29] <sladen> cablesm102: could you file that as a recommendation
[02:29] <cablesm102> ha
[02:29] <Bottazzo> jrib, ow.. so complex =/ .. i ll forget this .. =[
[02:29] <Lam__> i have a small amount of files in hdb1, and i want to image them to hdd1 in a manner similar to RAID 1, but still be able to store other, extra files on hdd1. is that possible?
[02:30] <jrib> Bottazzo: well it's a neat gimmick.  Not really complex, just that command I gave you.  I think it's pointless though, but then again I never see my desktop :)
[02:30] <digitize> For some odd reason amarok completely broke after crashing, I can no longer run it. So naturally I proceded to reinstalling it, only to find a problem. In order to reinstall it, I have to remove kubuntu desktop as well, something I do not want to do just to fix amarok. Any suggestions as to fixing this are greatly appreciated.
[02:31] <cablesm102> digitize, do you have AAC files in your library?
[02:31] <riotkittie> digitize: are you getting any error message ?
[02:31] <mrpeenut24> hey i just recently installed ubuntu and am trying to get some drivers working (i've been using suse)
[02:31] <digitize> cablesm102: nope
[02:31] <frogzoo> digitize: run it from terminal & see where it craps out
[02:31] <digitize> frogzoo: nothing :(
[02:31] <crimsun> cablesm102: (awaiting feedback regarding above suggestion)
[02:31] <digitize> riotkittie: nope
[02:31] <frogzoo> digitize: k, strace amarok
[02:31] <cablesm102> digitize, delete the config files from wherever they are
[02:31] <cablesm102> crimsun, how do I do that? Launchpad?
[02:31] <nexeus> Yashiro,  u will have to check for the beryl forum for an answer
[02:32] <Bottazzo> jrib, yes but i m so noob in linux.. i need x server .. i cant live without it =P
[02:32] <crimsun> cablesm102: I'm referring to the sound issue.
[02:32] <adamonline45> frogzoo: alright, I can do that.  Are there security implications with using BASH scripts? All I want is something like "count=cat 'counter.txt'; count += 1; echo count > counter.txt"... I know, that's faulty, but it's the jist of it...
[02:32] <mrpeenut24> im having trouble configuring an elantech touchpad, and see that a couple others on the forums are as well, however there seem to be no answers
[02:32] <crimsun> cablesm102: and yes, via launchpad
[02:32] <codi> i'm running sudo chown user file in terminal and not getting an error, but it's having no effect
[02:32] <digitize> frogzoo: hey, i'm getting stuck on this...
[02:32] <Yashiro> nexeus: do you have the url?
[02:32] <jrib> Bottazzo: I don't understand
[02:32] <digitize> waitpid(15781, 0xbfca51f0, WNOHANG)     = 0
[02:32] <digitize> nanosleep({0, 100000}, NULL)            = 0
[02:32] <nexeus> Yashiro,  http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_XGL
[02:32] <Yashiro> ty
[02:32] <frogzoo> digitize: what is pid 15781 ?
[02:32] <cablesm102> crimsun, after this disables everything except headphones, how do I undo that.
[02:33] <Yashiro> nexeus: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=291464 <-- read this, i'm not the only one D:!
[02:33] <jrib> Bottazzo: if you want to try it out, I have some time and can guide you step by step in #ubuntu-classroom
[02:33] <Bottazzo> jrib, sorry, im brazilian.. i dont speak english so much..
[02:33] <jrib> Bottazzo: eu falo portugues tambem :)
[02:33] <cablesm102> crimsun, there should have been a ? after my previous message
[02:33] <crimsun> cablesm102: it shouldn't disable _everything except headphone_. It binds Headphones to Master.
[02:33] <Bottazzo> jrib,  auhaiuahuiaha
[02:33] <cablesm102> crimsun, thanks
[02:33] <digitize> frogzoo: it's not listed
[02:33] <cablesm102> crimsun, if it breaks stuff, what should I do?
[02:34] <cablesm102> I'm sorta scared :)
[02:34] <frogzoo> adamonline45: when it comes to security, I recommend nothing
[02:34] <crimsun> cablesm102: repeat the above command but remove the ac97_quirk parameter and value
[02:34] <Bottazzo> jrib, vamo naquela sala entao
[02:34] <adamonline45> frogzoo: understandable :)  perhaps a third-party counter will suffice...
[02:34] <codi> even chmod commands aren't having any effect, what does the little lock icon overtop of a file icon mean?
[02:35] <sivik> codi: what are you trying to do with it?
[02:35] <frogzoo> digitize: k, as someone suggested delete the .azureus folder/settings
[02:35] <codi> change the ownership and permissions, either or actually.
[02:35] <Josh_123> Hello, I was wondering if somebody could help me with my Boot problem. The problem (from what I have found by searching on the internet) is that the ide-generic driver is loading before the ata_piix driver which is required for my sata hard drive causing linux not to load. If somebody could point me in the right direction for reordering the drivers somehow, that would be great!
[02:35] <digitize> frogzoo and cablesm102 ty, i'll give del the conf a try
[02:36] <mrpeenut24> anyone else use an elantech touchpad with some success?  or can point me to some help?
[02:36] <crimsun> cablesm102: it shouldn't break anything. Your Dell is known to require it.
[02:36] <cablesm102> crimsun, thanks
[02:36] <codi> i need to change the group privaleges to allow write, or the ownership of the file
[02:36] <cablesm102> crimsun, how do i make it permanent?
[02:36] <frogzoo> !permissions | codi
[02:36] <ubotu> codi: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[02:36] <crimsun> cablesm102: I'll take care of that part.
[02:36] <vote4arealclown> is there a firestarter like app for ubuntu?
[02:36] <crimsun> cablesm102: (for feisty)
[02:36] <codi> either should work, and i use terminal to do it, looks like it worked, but doesn't change the permission
[02:37] <frogzoo> vote4arealclown: yes, it's called firestarter
[02:37] <xhaan> chown <user>:<group> <filename>
[02:37] <vote4arealclown> lmao
[02:37] <cablesm102> !firestarter | vote4arealclown
[02:37] <ubotu> vote4arealclown: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[02:37] <codi> i know how to change permissions, i'm wondering why it's not having an effect
[02:37] <crimsun> cablesm102: echo "options snd-intel8x0 ac97_quirk=hp_only" |sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[02:37] <vote4arealclown> thanks dudes!
[02:37] <amonkey> when i right click on window titles, i can't see the "send to workspace x" or "move to right" or any of that fun stuff. how do i fix that?
[02:37] <frogzoo> codi: use ls -l to check the ownership of the file
[02:38] <cablesm102> crimsun, it broke sound entirely... how do I fix that?
[02:38] <cablesm102> crimsun, i haven't run the echo command yet. Do I need to do that now?
[02:38] <crimsun> cablesm102: are you sure it's broken? i.e., everything should be unmuted.
[02:38] <digitize> grrr, deleting the config files does nothing
[02:39] <Cryoniq> Hmm.. Im trying to get the Cairo-clock working, but it is just showing a solid white square.. could it be a side effect im using beryl?
[02:39] <crimsun> cablesm102: use alsamixer to unmute and increase the volumes
[02:39] <frogzoo> digitize: maybe reboot
[02:39] <cablesm102> crimsun, nothing will unmute. it says "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found
[02:39] <codi> ok, the ownership looks like it worked, but when i right click in gnome and choose properties, it still shows root as owner
[02:39] <codi> but the permissions are blank
[02:39] <digitize> frogzoo: yeah, i'll try that later, once i do and if still doesn't work i'll come back, ty
[02:39] <crimsun> cablesm102: no, use alsamixer in a Terminal.
[02:39] <cablesm102> crimsun, Alsamixer returns something about "No such device"
[02:39] <_feh_> in my networking i keep adding my own dns servers but dhcp keeps changing them, how do i stop this?
[02:40] <crimsun> cablesm102: cat /proc/asound/modules
[02:40] <qos> after my last update (beryl and libgtk was updated) beryl doesn't run anymore. firefox is absolutly slow and runs with 100% cpu capacity. does anyone know where to search the problem?
[02:40] <_feh_> i want my manually added dns servers to stay unchanged
[02:40] <cablesm102> crimsun: no such file or directory
[02:40] <crimsun> cablesm102: sudo modprobe snd-intel8x0 ac97_quirk=hp_only
[02:40] <Cryoniq> ah hmm.. it is beryl.. switched over to regular and it showed, and when beryl started up again it went solid box white
[02:40] <cablesm102> crimsun, it's giving me a bunch of fatal errors... want a pastebin?
[02:40] <mabus> My acx chipset card will work on ubuntu desktop, but not on ubuntu server. The module is loaded but there is an error with the firmware. Can anyone give me an idea as to how to fix this?
[02:40] <crimsun> cablesm102: yes.
[02:40] <frogzoo> Ferret: in /etc/ppp/peers/dsl-provider or similar, remove the option: usepeerdns
[02:41] <frogzoo> _feh_: in /etc/ppp/peers/dsl-provider or similar, remove the option: usepeerdns
[02:41] <anon_> is there any way to list all the USB devices that ubuntu sees attached?
[02:41] <mabus> anon_: lsusb
[02:41] <codi> so what would be the problem. too different ownerships and no permissions
[02:42] <_feh_> frogzoo: thanks will try
[02:42] <Josh_123> Hello, I was wondering if somebody could help me with my Boot problem. The problem (from what I have found by searching on the internet) is that the ide-generic driver is loading before the ata_piix driver which is required for my sata hard drive causing linux not to load. If somebody could point me in the right direction for reordering the drivers somehow, that would be great!
[02:42] <anon_> nothing happenes
[02:42] <cablesm102> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3776/
[02:42] <codi> the file is write protected, how do i change that
[02:42] <anon_> should there have been some arguments on that?
[02:42] <Kud|> I am having an issue with Beryl. I just installed the packages for Beryl via apt-get following this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnEdgy My problem is that when I select Beryl as my Windows Manager, it does not change and leaves Fluxbox as my windows manager. I try the troubleshooting method given on that guide, but to no avail. Does anyone have any advice on how to fix this problem?
[02:43] <crimsun> cablesm102: ``lsmod |grep ^snd && dmesg |tail''
[02:43] <whonicca> question, how do i run checkgmail
[02:43] <cablesm102> crimsun, want a pastebin?
[02:43] <crimsun> cablesm102: yes
[02:44] <cablesm102> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3777/
[02:44] <crimsun> cablesm102: ok, all of ``dmesg'', then
[02:44] <fixe__> http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/Father_impressed_with_ubuntu_thinks_it_s_Vista
[02:44] <frogzoo> _feh_: or remove the 'request-domain-servers' in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[02:45] <_feh_> frogzoo: thanks will do that too
[02:45] <dimeo> whonicca | in the applications menu
[02:45] <whonicca> dont see it there
[02:45] <Kud|> Anyone? :(
[02:45] <frogzoo> _feh_: it depends who's doing it - pppd or dhclient
[02:46] <_feh_> gotcha
[02:46] <_feh_> I can't tell
[02:46] <cablesm102> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3778/
[02:46] <frogzoo> Kud|: which vid card?
[02:46] <ziro01> hi
[02:47] <Kud|> ATI 9600xt, and yes the drivers are installed and properly working with direct rendering
[02:47] <mrpeenut24> does anyone know if there's an elantech config util either made or in the making?
[02:47] <junky> i just got a WMP54G, but i cant configure my wlan0, ive tried setting the ap and the essid, but still cant connect to my router, any hint?
[02:47] <dwhsi1> Asc: (way back when) thanks, tjhat did the trick (installing add'l codecs).  This made it real easy: http://ubuntu.flowconsult.at/en/mplayer-codec-update/
[02:47] <whonicca> dimeo, any idea why it isnt there?
[02:47] <junky> ive tried the network manager, and still unsuccessful.
[02:47] <whonicca> i used automatix2 to install
[02:48] <lonewave> http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/Father_impressed_with_ubuntu_thinks_it_s_Vista
[02:48] <crimsun> cablesm102: sudo modprobe snd && sudo modprobe snd-intel8x0 ac97_quirk=hp_only
[02:48] <mrpeenut24> (it also shows the device as being an ImPS/2 Logitech Wheel Mouse)
[02:48] <Asc> dwhsi1: Good on you.  I'll save that page so's to give to the next person who asks.
[02:48] <frogzoo> fixe__: to good to be true
[02:49] <frogzoo> Kud|: u using xgl ?
[02:49] <yhallothar> Hi.
[02:49] <cablesm102> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3779/
[02:49] <jt__> hi
[02:49] <Kud|> frogzoo: Yes
[02:49] <crimsun> cablesm102: sudo modprobe snd-ac97-codec && sudo modprobe snd-intel8x0 ac97_quirk=hp_only
[02:50] <yhallothar> I'm hunting for help using poweriso in ubuntu
[02:50] <yhallothar> :o
[02:50] <cablesm102> crimsun, i just heard a click
[02:50] <jt__> can someone answer me what are libs? (in  a program it says lib 5 and lib6)
[02:50] <cablesm102> and no output
[02:50] <cablesm102> that's a good sign
[02:50] <jt__> i have just installed ubuntu, first linux i ever use :p
[02:51] <crimsun> cablesm102: so test it now using a multimedia app and your volume keys
[02:51] <cablesm102> crimsun, headphone dissapeared... seems like a good thing
[02:51] <D0wN> yhallothar: is there even a native copy of poweriso for linux?
[02:51] <Kud|> frogzoo: Going to test something real quick, I'll tell you if it does anything in a min. :P
[02:51] <yhallothar> it's weird
[02:51] <yhallothar> well, then
[02:52] <yhallothar> I installed WINE as well
[02:52] <cablesm102> crimsun, it's working now. Thanks. Now can you tell me what to put in what file to make it stick?
[02:52] <yhallothar> but I don't know what the hell I'm doing to know if it's working or not.
[02:52] <all4n> hey, I want to move Ubuntu from one partition on one disk, to another, empty partition on another disk..  what is the best strategy?
[02:52] <crimsun> see the command I gave you at 37 minutes past the hour (15 mins ago)
[02:52] <D0wN> Is there a specific reason you want to use poweriso over a software that was written for linux?
[02:52] <bruenig> all4n, dd probably
[02:52] <frogzoo> all4n: cpio
[02:52] <crimsun> cablesm102: see the command I gave you at 37 minutes past the hour (15 mins ago)
[02:52] <`Shawn> all4n: Copy + Paste ;)
[02:53] <cablesm102> crimsun, is that one that will or won't break stuff?
[02:53] <frogzoo> `Shawn: wins!
[02:53] <`Shawn> frogzoo: lol :p
[02:53] <crimsun> cablesm102: if your sound currently works as intended with the volume hotkeys, it can't break anything.
[02:53] <yhallothar> link me to a linux written program that can convert .daa to .iso and/or burn .daa as a cd image and I'll be happy
[02:53] <yhallothar> I've been googling for alternatives but clearly my methods are only leading to failure
[02:53] <all4n> `Shawn, but how about grub..  do I just copy all of it over to the other partition, and re-setup grub?
[02:53] <cablesm102> crimsun, I can't find it... I don't have timestamps in this IRC client. Can you send it again?
[02:54] <all4n> and how about folders that can not be copied, such as /proc?
[02:54] <crimsun> cablesm102: echo "options snd-intel8x0 ac97_quirk=hp_only" |sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[02:54] <`Shawn> All4n: I dunno, I'd personally just uninstall ubuntu, and reinstall it again.
[02:54] <bruenig> `Shawn was obviously kidding
[02:54] <D0wN> yhallothar: I'm looking for one. One sec.
[02:54] <Quarupt> Excuse me can anyone tell me if there is a way to auto configure Xorg like when you first install Ubuntu? I can't get my settings right
[02:54] <yhallothar> Ok, thanks
[02:54] <cablesm102> crimsun, thanks. Then should I reboot to test it?
[02:54] <nalioth> !xcfg | Quarupt
[02:54] <ubotu> Quarupt: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:54] <crimsun> cablesm102: if it floats your boat.
[02:54] <cablesm102> crimsun, thanks
[02:55] <all4n> `Shawn, yeah, but I've set it up quite nicely, it would take a while to re-setup everything..  I've been compiling some programs and stuff
[02:55] <D0wN> yhallothar: There's a link to the linux version on the PowerISO download page. It's near the bottom
[02:55] <newbie41> help with (dpkg -b filename -deb) is that write because it wont work
[02:55] <`Shawn> All4n: Hmmm. Make a disk-image of it. Then install the image to the other disk, and deleate the first one?
[02:55] <yhallothar> I have that.
[02:55] <dimeo> my favorite gnome icon of the day:   gtodo    ---> easy to use, user friendly, handy dandy addition to the icon panel
[02:55] <jrib> newbie41: what are you trying to do?
[02:55] <D0wN> Did it not work?
[02:55] <Quarupt> nalioth, Yes I know I have seen this, that is not what I am asking about, I am talking about when you first install Ubuntu, what is it that autoconfigures X?
[02:56] <yhallothar> I don't get how to work it
[02:56] <D0wN> Okay
[02:56] <D0wN> one sec
[02:56] <yhallothar> I read the  man pages or help or whatever it's called now
[02:56] <all4n> `Shawn, not sure :)
[02:56] <yhallothar> this is my first time with linux
[02:56] <newbie41> jrib trying to make a package to install
[02:56] <jrib> newbie41: what are you trying to install?
[02:56] <yhallothar> we used an old version of unix in HS and that was three years ago and I just have no idea what to do
[02:57] <newbie41> aoldialer so i can get rid of this windows machine
[02:57] <DanZ> in the command line, whats the command to restart my computer
[02:57] <D0wN> I'm registering my nickname so I can PM you on how to do it
[02:57] <dimeo> yhallothar:   new to linux or just ubuntu?
[02:57] <yhallothar> both
[02:57] <bimberi> DanZ: sudo reboot
[02:57] <hajiki> hey guys how do i install kiba dock???
[02:57] <yhallothar> I've only had experience in HS with unix
[02:57] <d0s4gw> anyone feel like helping me get wireless with WPA working?
[02:58] <jrib> !dpkg | newbie41
[02:58] <ubotu> newbie41: dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[02:58] <dimeo> yhall:  click applications-->accessories--> terminal .... meet your new best friend :-D
[02:58] <yhallothar> and it looked a lot different and I really don't remember most of it
[02:58] <bimberi> !wpa
[02:58] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:58] <dimeo> don't let the $ scare you
[02:58] <newbie41> jrib aol dialer
[02:58] <yhallothar> dimeo, I'm already at that ;[
[02:58] <jrib> newbie41: Just double click on the .deb, or use  sudo dpkg -i file.deb   but be sure this deb works on this version of ubuntu
[02:58] <dimeo> you can do almost anything with a sentence or two
[02:58] <nalioth> Quarupt: if you visit fixvideoresolution it'll tell you the command
[02:58] <jt__> hello everyone, what should i do if i don't have an ati, nvidia, vodoo video card? i have an intel and i didn't activate the 3d acceleration, installed beryl and it worked, so it means my video card was already supported? because i installed a game for linux, and it doesn't open, and it says it needs that :S
[02:59] <mrpeenut24> k im also having trouble with my intel 3945abg pro/wireless card
[02:59] <dimeo> but don't worry.. like me you probably won't need to remember it all by heart.  I recommend saving favourite commands into a text document for easy reference
[02:59] <frogzoo> jt__: games won't run under beryl
[02:59] <Quarupt> nalioth, I told you I have been there it tells you to do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg which is a command to manually configure X, thats not what i am asking about
[02:59] <jt__> this is a integrated video card, not a wireless :p
[02:59] <ooglaboogla> I need to move the contents of /boot from /dev/sda3 (50MB) to /dev/sda2 (1 GB) can someone help me
[02:59] <frogzoo> jt__: switch to gnome
[02:59] <Asc> jt_: Beryl probably wouldn't work very well without hardware acceleration
[02:59] <jt__> ooh :(... thanks
[02:59] <newbie41> jrib it not a .deb file it was a .tar
[03:00] <Asc> jt_: Oh.  What frogzoo said.
[03:00] <jt__> thanks frogzoo
[03:00] <jrib> newbie41: then you can't use dpkg to install it, you need to probably compile it
[03:00] <ooglaboogla> I've made a /tmp/oldboot dir and /tmp/newboot dir and mounted the /dev/sda3 to /tmp/oldboot and /dev/sda2 to /tmp/newboot
[03:00] <dimeo> the up arrow is very handy to access commands used recently... kinda a 'history' in your browser
[03:00] <jt__> well, it works perfectly
[03:00] <jt__> the cube, everything
[03:00] <dimeo> $ sudo apt-get install
[03:00] <dimeo> very useful command
[03:00] <frogzoo> jt__: so 3d works
[03:00] <newbie41> jrib im trying to make a .deb file
[03:00] <ooglaboogla> i then copied everything from /tmp/oldboot to /tmp/newboot
[03:01] <yhallothar> Yo
[03:01] <nalioth> Quarupt: then i'm lost.
[03:01] <jt__> thanks frogzoo, will try the game without beryl :)
[03:01] <yhallothar> D0wN, you can't get queries from non-registered users?
[03:01] <yhallothar> if so I'll register
[03:01] <LiNk3r> good!
[03:01] <jrib> !compiling | newbie41
[03:01] <ubotu> newbie41: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:01] <ooglaboogla> but in /etc/fstab there is a UUID for /boot .... that's as far as i get
[03:01] <jrib> !checkinstall | newbie41
[03:01] <ubotu> newbie41: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[03:01] <jt__> oh, and libc 6 or 5? (also what is this)
[03:01] <LiNk3r> hellow!!!
[03:01] <mrpeenut24> my wireless card is showing up in device manager, but its not showing up in network-manager
[03:01] <Dante123> hi all.....newbie question here......how do I switch from a full screen application back to the desktop....when I did ctrl-alt backspace or delete it restarted x....or something....does anything like alt-esc or ctrl-tab do anything in ubuntu?
[03:01] <D0wN> Register your nickname. I'm trying to query you. =P
[03:01] <newbie41> jrib how do you compile?
[03:01] <yhallothar> Done.
[03:01] <cablesm102> crimsun, it worked. Thanks for helping!
[03:01] <dimeo> for example, my favourites list :   $sudo apt-get install cream gtodo	notecase streamtuner smbfs checkgmail brightside beagle
[03:01] <dimeo> goobox gstreamer0.8-lame  p7zip-full dvdrip k9copym  gddrescue
[03:02] <mrpeenut24> and network-manager is not showing up in the apps menu
[03:02] <LiNk3r> alguem fala portugues
[03:02] <Kud|> frogzoo: Beryl is still not wanting to load as the window manager. It just leaves Metacity as the default window manager.
[03:02] <crimsun> cablesm102: np, it's my job.
[03:02] <jrib> newbie41: read the links from ubotu, it isn't easy for a beginner so take your time
[03:02] <bimberi> Dante123: try ALT-TAB
[03:02] <jrib> !pt | LiNk3r
[03:02] <ubotu> LiNk3r: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[03:02] <Dante123> espanol
[03:02] <LiNk3r> obrigado
[03:02] <dwid> i need help acessing my second hard drive
[03:02] <Quarupt> nalioth, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg lets you manually chose options like what driver, whats resolutions, your monitors vsync and things like this, I dont know what options to use here.. when you install Ubuntu it does all this automatically
[03:02] <jrib> dwid: what filesystem?
[03:02] <frogzoo> Kud|: soz, I use gnome
[03:02] <Dante123> I thought I did...but nothing happend......I was running a game in fullscreen and tried to switch back to desktop with it still running...
[03:03] <Gwanky> howdy
[03:03] <Gwanky> I need help running an executable file
[03:03] <dimeo> I can't imagine any MSoft OS that lets you install 14 programs with a cut and paste of a sentence
[03:03] <dwid> jrib: how do i tell what filesystem
[03:03] <Kud|> Anyone have any idea why XGL won't allow Beryl to load as the window manager instead of Metacity?
[03:03] <cablesm102> Gwanky, what's happening when you try to run it?
[03:03] <edo2035> hey... after a recent update, when i insert a cdrom, i do not have permission to copy files, even when using gksudo nautilus, any help?
[03:03] <Asc> Dante123: Funny thing, I've never heard of a way to minimize a full screen game.  It seems to take over the X server or something.
[03:03] <Dante123> I'll try again....but before I do is there any other keyboard shortcut for showing desktop again from fullscreen....
[03:03] <Gwanky> Basically I dont know how to use the command line
[03:03] <jrib> newbie41: I have good news for you, I've found a program called "penggy" in the repositories that lets you connect to aol
[03:03] <frogzoo> I have a wierd problem where oowriter opens up fullscreen (no title bar) and refuses to unfullscreen (from hotkey) - need a fix pls
[03:03] <Gwanky> Its a GBA emulator that I put on my desktop
[03:03] <jrib> !penggy | newbie41
[03:03] <ubotu> penggy: connects to AOL via modem or TCP/IP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.1-13 (edgy), package size 71 kB, installed size 332 kB
[03:04] <cablesm102> Gwanky, is it compiled?
[03:04] <dimeo> gwanky... check out what I've just been saying.... =p
[03:04] <Gwanky> Dimeo:Sorry just joined 3 seconds ago
[03:04] <Gwanky> Cablesm102:I believe so it is a binary
[03:04] <Asc> Dante123: If you really want to, you can start a second X session with 'gdmflexisserver' and run the game in that, then switch between them with control-alt-F7 and control-alt-F8... but I doubt that's a very stable idea.
[03:04] <jrib> dwid: what did you format it as?
[03:04] <Gwanky> I just don't know what to type to run it
[03:04] <Dante123> i guess i will just put the game back to windowed screen
[03:04] <cablesm102> gwanky, you should just need to type the name of the EXE
[03:04] <dwid> i didnt format it
[03:05] <dimeo> gwanky... some executables just need a right click to make it executable
[03:05] <ooglaboogla> how do i generate a UUID for /dev/sda2 to put in /etc/fstab
[03:05] <cablesm102> gwanky, if it's a script, type "sh <path/name of exe>"
[03:05] <Gwanky> do I need to write down the directory?
[03:05] <jt__> for what is the kind of dos at ctrl + f1,f2,f3, etc?
[03:05] <jrib> !uuid | ooglaboogla
[03:05] <ubotu> ooglaboogla: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[03:05] <bimberi> Dante123: you can set up a shortcut (via System -> Prefs -> Keyboard Shortcuts) to minimize all windows
[03:05] <dwid> jrib: how do i go about formatting it on ubuntu
[03:05] <dimeo> right click-->properties-->permissions-->executable
[03:05] <jrib> dwid: you could use gparted
[03:05] <Dante123> ok...thanks......
[03:05] <jrib> dwid: there's no data on the disk that you want right?
[03:05] <cablesm102> gwanky, if you want to do it through GUI, just double-click the file. It should ask you if you want to run it. If that doesn't work, do what dimeo jsut said
[03:06] <dwid> jrib: nah no data i want
[03:06] <dwid> gparted is on the list of add remove programs?
[03:06] <Asc> bimberi: I don't think that works will fullscreen games, does it?
[03:06] <jrib> dwid: yeah, use gparted then.  ext3 is the default filesystem.  it should be in add/remvoe, if not, you can find it in system > admin > synaptic
[03:06] <dimeo> $sudo apt-get install gparted
[03:06] <ooglaboogla> jrib: thank you for the blkid info
[03:06] <bimberi> Dante123: the issue might be that the game is capturing these keystrokes and not passing them to the Window Manager
[03:06] <bimberi> Asc: not sure really
[03:07] <Gwanky> Can 4.10 make it into an executable with just a right click?
[03:07] <Dante123> ok....I think it is just easier for me to run it in a window.....
[03:07] <dimeo> you know theres an awesome gparted boot disk out there too... always handy to burn that and have it around in your toolbox of rescue Cd's
[03:07] <jrib> Gwanky: make what executable?
[03:07] <BHSPitMonkey> ok, problem.
[03:07] <Gwanky> Someone said that to make the file an exectuable I need to right click it
[03:07] <dimeo> jrib: porn.exe
[03:07] <Gwanky> sorry for being a newb
[03:07] <cablesm102> Gwanky, right click>properties>permissions>executable
[03:07] <LiNk3r> cc
[03:07] <LiNk3r> cc!
[03:08] <dimeo> gwanker:  never apologize for being nOOb.  you're the future of ubuntu
[03:08] <jrib> dimeo: looks like a virus
[03:08] <Gwanky> Cablesm102:All the executable things are checked off
[03:08] <cablesm102> gwanky, double click the file
[03:08] <mabus> My acx chipset card will work on ubuntu desktop, but not on ubuntu server. The module is loaded but there is an error with the firmware. Can anyone give me an idea as to how to fix this?
[03:08] <dimeo> nOObs have made ubuntu become the most popular linux OS
[03:08] <Gwanky> doesnt work
[03:08] <BHSPitMonkey> every other time I boot (ubuntu) up on my laptop, it dies during boot.   fsck dies, and I end up on this screen: http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/2593/image167we7.jpg
[03:08] <BHSPitMonkey> then I reboot again and it's fine.
[03:09] <cablesm102> Gwanky, in that case, open the terminal and type the path of the file.
[03:09] <BHSPitMonkey> (after a hard reset.)
[03:09] <Gwanky> what would the path be if it was on my desktop
[03:09] <Gwanky> like usr\etc\joe\desktop?
[03:09] <dimeo> BHSPitMonkey done a memory chip test?
[03:09] <junmin> hi, guys. i got a problem of Totem, in the LAN of home, another computer(Windows) has some .avi movie shared, i have to copy the movie file to my computer and play it, but why i cannot play them directly?totem just tells me cannot play....
[03:09] <jrib> Gwanky: ~/Desktop/FILENAME
[03:09] <cablesm102> Gwanky, ~/Desktop/FILENAME
[03:09] <cablesm102> ah
[03:09] <cablesm102> jrib beat me
[03:09] <dimeo> junmin: same here
[03:09] <jrib> weird how we both said "FILENAME", I was going to use foobar :)
[03:10] <cablesm102> gwanky, remember / not \
[03:10] <high-freq> hmm..anyone know the package name for ruby-gem or ruby-gems
[03:10] <Gwanky> riight sorry
[03:10] <dimeo> junmin: i just made an icon to quickly mount the other computer shared drive
[03:10] <Gwanky> also
[03:10] <junmin> dimeo, i remember that i could play it directly .. ...
[03:10] <BHSPitMonkey> dimeo, would a memory problem cause fsck to die at every boot?  It's also worthy to mention that just before that screen, among all the boot messages, is fsck's "wrong usage/help" info
[03:10] <cablesm102> jrib, i was right at the FILENAME part and you said FILENAME so I just sorta said the same thing, rather than doing the responsible thing and backspacing it out
[03:10] <Gwanky> I had to install Zlib, Opengl, and SMlib do you install them or just download them?
[03:10] <junmin> dimeo, how to make this icon?
[03:11] <dimeo> dunmin:    im using edgy and if I go places--> network servers--> and into the shared windows drive... I can't play the video
[03:11] <mseney> if you change motherboards (Biostar w/ VIA Chipset to ASUS w/ SIS Chipset) will you need to re-install Ubuntu 6.10?
[03:11] <Noah0504> Hey everyone.  I have a two volume set on the C programming language I bought when I was younger and never really had the discipline to learn.  Should I take the time to read them and learn C, or should I try to learn something like C++ or Python?
[03:11] <dimeo> sudo smbmount //VAIO/vaio-docs /mnt/VAIO/
[03:11] <dimeo> that's the command I have in the launcher
[03:12] <Slart> high-freq: didn't find anything while searching.. could it be in the examples package?
[03:12] <dimeo> then I chose a schnazzy icon for it
[03:12] <high-freq> not sure...i did search as well
[03:12] <Kud|> How do you go about uninstalling XGL?
[03:12] <dimeo> you have to make a folder for the mount point
[03:12] <dwid> jrib: okay its formated to ext 3 but it still says unable to mount
[03:12] <high-freq> i installed ruby-1.8 and 1.9  was hoping ruby-gems was in there
[03:12] <all4n> Noah0504, Python might be easier if you are new to programming
[03:12] <dimeo> dwid: made any changes to your fstab yet?
[03:13] <dwid> dimeo: whats the fstab
[03:13] <junmin> dimeo, got your mean ... but i can not configure smb to smbmout automatically?
[03:13] <Noah0504> all4n: Well, I guess I would still be new.  I know most of the concepts (I did learn BASIC awhile ago, and messed around with VisualBASIC).
[03:13] <dimeo> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131
[03:14] <dimeo> dwid: take a peek at that
[03:14] <dwid> thanks
[03:14] <cablesm102> junmin, there's a guide to having samba volumes automounted, it's on the wiki. I'll find it
[03:14] <dimeo> nice: thx cable
[03:14] <Pwnstarr> I think junmin's problems had to do with Totem not playing codecs
[03:14] <Pwnstarr> here's the website to fix that
[03:14] <Pwnstarr> http://www.debianadmin.com/install-mplayer-ubuntu.html
[03:14] <bamzin> hi.. has anybody had any trouble with ALC883 audio device on Acer laptops and found a way to solve the problem? I've updated the alsa packs and all, nothing works
[03:14] <junmin> cablesm102, thanks :D
[03:14] <dimeo> cable: you familiar with what we mean?  that you can't play a video from a shared samba drive?
[03:15] <cablesm102> dimeo, damn... i just joined and thought he just wanted an auto-mounting samba drive
[03:15] <dimeo> bamzin: trouble... what kinda trouble?
[03:15] <cablesm102> junmin, why won't it work? Does the video player not support reading from the volume?
[03:15] <all4n> Noah0504, then Python can be good, both for introduction and more advanced stuff..  you could also look into Ruby, Ruby on Rails is good for building web applications
[03:15] <dimeo> the.. "you look like trouble" kind =p
[03:15] <cablesm102> junmin, in that case, mounting it as a folder with the tutorial I have should work
[03:16] <dimeo> or the "i don't want no trouble round her" kind?
[03:16] <cablesm102> junmin, can you describe the problem to me?
[03:16] <Noah0504> all4n: Thanks.  I think I might look up a few Python tutorials tonight and start there.
[03:16] <all4n> Noah0504, good idea
[03:16] <Koji> hello
[03:16] <bamzin> dimeo, my ubuntu edgy finds the audio device, i can change the volume and everything seems to work fine. BUT, no sound is played :/
[03:16] <junmin> cablesm102, Totem, in the LAN of home, another computer(Windows) has some .avi movie shared, i have to copy the movie file to my computer and play it, but why i cannot play them directly?totem just tells me cannot play....
[03:17] <dimeo> bamzin: i get something similar on my dell once in a while.. I just reboot 8-)
[03:17] <CSTrippie> Hey, anyone know of a really small Deb/Ubuntu based distro (like DSL, but less annoying)?
[03:17] <bamzin> dimeo, reboot? uh? heh
[03:17] <cablesm102> junmin, that's because totem can't see your network shared drives.
[03:17] <cablesm102> junmin, this should help: junmin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[03:17] <dimeo> I figgur it might happen when I mess with my brightness... while booting... it only happens once in 10 reboots... weird though
[03:17] <cablesm102> junmin, this makes your Samba share look just like another drive
[03:18] <graft> hey y'all - i have a weird ALSA problem... sounds intermittently starts to hang, and loop incessantly (like shell error beeps become 'beep beep beep beep...')... can still play via OSS fine, but anything using ALSA is borked
[03:18] <bamzin> i'm not that lucky.. your bug is 'lighter' than mine :P my audio neever works heh
[03:18] <junmin> cablesm102, looking at it now, thanks
[03:18] <high-freq> hmm...guess i'll just install manual for rubygems unless if someone knows which package its in
[03:18] <dimeo> bamzin: searched the forums already I guess?
[03:19] <high-freq> i couldn't find the package ;(
[03:19] <cablesm102> junmin, no prob. If it doesn't work right, make sure you go to the bottom and look at the Troubleshooting section. That happened to me when I needed to do this.
[03:19] <Dante123> how do i tell if my setup is using xorg or xvesa?
[03:19] <rattlehead>  wget http://users.lichtsnel.nl/~jap/steam/steam.tar.gz
[03:19] <bamzin> dimeo, yes, tried everything. maybe i could get the chance to fing a holy soul to help me in here, but... heh
[03:19] <bamzin> find*
[03:19] <graft> xvesa?
[03:20] <junmin> cablesm102, OK
[03:22] <Kud> How do I uninstall XGL?
[03:22] <FantasticFoo> i had xgl and beryl working perfectly fine in a separate login session, and then i updated all outdated software, and when i restarted, beryl didn't work anymore
[03:22] <FantasticFoo> anyone know what this is about?
[03:22] <dimeo> oooeeee... I should chat on #ubuntu while writing reports more often.. a nice distraction to ease the pain:-P
[03:22] <Ricket> I am running Ubuntu x86 6.10, fully updated. On this page, which link should I download to correctly work with my system?: http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html
[03:23] <cablesm102> !ati | Ricket
[03:23] <ubotu> Ricket: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:23] <cablesm102> Ricket, you shouldn't have to download anything from a site
[03:23] <dimeo> fantastic: "this" is very unspecific...
[03:23] <Simpleton> Greetings!
[03:24] <dimeo> didn't work.. you mean it won't run at all? or crashes ?
[03:24] <dimeo> freezes?
[03:24] <fryfrog> can anyone tell me how i can get the /dev/mdX devices to show up?  i've loaded the raid modules, but they aren't showing up
[03:25] <dwid> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions#head-f59428cd4d1c1b020a3a06bae2242b3d7f45a06d if you mount automatically using the first script will it mess up my first hard drive?
[03:26] <FantasticFoo> dimeo: doesnt run at all
[03:26] <FantasticFoo> dimeo: when i start "beryl-manager" i dont get the wobbly "beryl" splash screen like i used to
[03:27] <CBinGR> hi all, if i install ubuntu will i have trouble upgrading to a newer version down the road?
[03:27] <deafboy> my stereo starts humming when i turn my sound up really loud
[03:27] <logikon> FantasticFoo: try running it on terminal and see what the output is
[03:27] <deafboy> anyone know what that might be?
[03:27] <FantasticFoo> logikon: ok
[03:27] <Ricket> deafboy: normal electronic interference
[03:27] <dimeo> have you tried a:    $ sudo apt-get remove beryl
[03:27] <FantasticFoo> logikon: output is nothing
[03:27] <logikon> deafboy: or perhaps a sign you're going deaf..
[03:27] <FantasticFoo> i get the little beryl ruby thing in my systray, but nothing else
[03:27] <Simpleton> Is the dell truemobile wireless card supported by default in the new version or does it still require ndiswrapper and the like?
[03:27] <Kud> How do I uninstall XGL? Anyone?? :(
[03:27] <dimeo> and then $ sudo apt-get autoremove
[03:28] <Ricket> deafboy: was there ever a time when it didn't do this humming? if so, maybe your stereo is going bad. but most likely, it's just normal.
[03:28] <silvertip257> After I first installed ubuntu 6.06 on a desktop, the wireless pci card (EthernetPro100(rev01) 82557/8/9 did and still does not work
[03:28] <deafboy> ricket: yeah it didn't do it an hour ago :(
[03:28] <dimeo> fantastic: right click on the icon , do you get settings menu?
[03:28] <FantasticFoo> dimeo: yeah
[03:29] <deafboy> @ logikon lol
[03:29] <rio> anyone install any of the wiki's that are shown in the synaptic package manager?
[03:29] <dimeo> silvertip:  you might need ndiswrapper
[03:29] <Slart> deafboy: you didn't change anything? you just sat completely still and watched it.. and suddenly it started humming? then I think either stereo or computer is going bad
[03:29] <silvertip257> dimeo:  oh hmm
[03:29] <bulmer> silvertip257: what have you done so far?
[03:29] <deafboy> slart: i don't think i did anyway
[03:29] <deafboy> ricket: it doesn't hum when plugged into my ipod just my computer
[03:29] <silvertip257> bulmer:  just loaded it - didnt have time to screw w/ it
[03:29] <Slart> deafboy: aha.. !! the old.. "I think I didn't do anything"-excuse =)
[03:30] <Ricket> deafboy: ah, that makes more sense then. many computer sound cards, but especially motherboard sound, make humming noises. due to normal electronic interference :)
[03:30] <bulmer> silvertip257: and you expect us to help you if you dont want to spend time with it?
[03:30] <yhallothar> hi
[03:30] <deafboy> ricket: thanks ;)
[03:30] <silvertip257> bulmer:  i do want to spend time on it
[03:30] <silvertip257> bulmer:  i'm just askin for suggestions
[03:30] <Slart> deafboy: my onboard sound card produces different kinds of noises depending on processor load etc.
[03:30] <Dimensions> any one knows how to boot from a usb hard disk ?
[03:30] <Ricket> deafboy: only the super high-quality sound cards with special procautions to prevent interference (such as a large metal box over the sound card to block out electricity) won't make those types of noises.
[03:31] <dimeo> silver: my broadcom cards all needed ndiswrapper
[03:31] <Kud> can anyone help me?
[03:31] <rednelb> I've had the same problem with bad laptop soundcard not shielded well.
[03:31] <cablesm102>  It's funny, because my soundcard only hisses on Windows
[03:31] <Slart> Kud: help with what?
[03:31] <cablesm102> not even joking there
[03:31] <silvertip257> ok thanks dimeo: btw broadcomm sucks w/ Linux
[03:31] <dimeo> dimensions:  some computers you press f12 at boot to get a menu
[03:31] <Kud> The question I've been asking for the past 30 mins...how do I uninstall XGL?
[03:31] <deafboy> ricket: thanks guys ;)
[03:31] <rednelb> cablesm102: question about running linux on a new hp laptop
[03:31] <logikon> cablem: mine whistles while on linux
[03:31] <rio> anyone have suggestions as to which wiki i should pick?
[03:31] <deafboy> slart: thanks guys ;)
[03:31] <dimeo> silver: i'm happy with my 3 PCs running ubuntu and ndiswrapper
[03:31] <Slart> cablesm102: goblins in the computer.. windows-goblins, for sure ;)
[03:31] <cablesm102> rednelb, why are you asking me?
[03:32] <graft> Kud remove the steps you took to install Xgl?
[03:32] <Dimensions> Dimeo mine hangs at post screen
[03:32] <rednelb> cablesm102: you da man?
[03:32] <graft> Kud: reverse, even
[03:32] <cablesm102> rednelb, ask everyone.
[03:32] <silvertip257> oh ok it works good them dimeo ?
[03:32] <Slart> Kud: oh.. I have no idea.. keep asking =)
[03:32] <rednelb> ok
[03:32] <dimeo> silver: but they apparently can't do a monitor mode =(
[03:32] <silvertip257> oo
[03:32] <graft> Kud: or do you mean how do you remove the package? sudo apt-get remove xserver-xgl?
[03:32] <cablesm102> rednelb, I'm a linux newb! A smart one, but I've only been using it for 6 months...
[03:32] <SoundGuy29> question : is there a way to  change the sudo passphrase and not my own passwd ?
[03:32] <Quarupt> OKAY! so this is weird when I try to run glxgears to test my 3d it says Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0" so I check my xorg.conf under the "modules" sections "glx"  is there? so why doesnt it work? Anyone please?
[03:32] <silvertip257> gotcha dimeo:  my laptop autorecognized my wireless card
[03:32] <silvertip257> but it's not my laptop that I'm asking about
[03:32] <Kud> graft: Tried that, says a process is using it. Not sure how that's possible considering I am under GNome at the moment.
[03:32] <dimeo> sweeet
[03:33] <silvertip257> yah
[03:33] <Slart> Quarupt: you're using the right driver?
[03:33] <rednelb> I have a dv9000t HP pavilion laptop. Has two headphone jacks on the front. When I boot ubuntu live CD and I plug in headphones the main speakers don't cut out. Is there a special driver I need?
[03:33] <graft> Kud: um, is Xgl running?
[03:33] <bimberi> SoundGuy29: no, they are looked up in the same place
[03:33] <Quarupt> Slart, yes the exact one for my card
[03:33] <Kud> graft: No or atleast it shouldn't be.
[03:33] <Dygerati> Plugged in a couple new drives to my system, now 'ALERT! /dev/sda1 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!' on boot.....help?
[03:33] <Slart> Quarupt: open source drivers or binary drivers?
[03:33] <graft> Kud: ps -ef | grep Xgl
[03:33] <Kud> graft: I didn't boot up using Xgl if that's what you mean.
[03:33] <dimeo> ndiswrapper isn't hard: start by finding the .inf driver that your wifi card comes with
[03:33] <dennister> hello ppl...any mythtv users here tonight?
[03:33] <SoundGuy29> bimberi: ok. thanks. is there a way to give another user sudo abilities ?
[03:33] <dimeo> could be under c:/drivers
[03:33] <dimeo> or on a CD
[03:34] <Slart> Quarupt: I think open source drivers won't give you hardware acceleration
[03:34] <graft> Kud: well you could always shut down X and remove Xgl from the console
[03:34] <Quarupt> Slart, I think Binary its the NV driver
[03:34] <dimeo> or the manufacturers website
[03:34] <dennister> <------trying to avoid the #mythtv-users channel
[03:34] <bulmer> Dygerati:  what was your /etc/fstab looked like before you installed the new ones?
[03:34] <Quarupt> slart this driver used to work for 3d for me
[03:34] <stapol> whats this mean
[03:34] <stapol> Servicing request from 140.211.166.4 [stapol,1205,6667] 
[03:34] <dwid> im still confused, i dont know how to put this hard drive in fstab
[03:34] <Quarupt> slart I used EasyUbuntu to install it
[03:35] <bimberi> SoundGuy29: yes, making them a member of the "admin" group gives them the same sudo abilities as the initial user.  sudo can be configured to limit what they can do too - see the man pages for more info
[03:35] <SoundGuy29> is there a way to give another user other than the 1st created sudo abilities ?
[03:35] <Slart> Quarupt: oh.. that's odd..  that should work... never had any problems with glx before
[03:35] <Dygerati> Not sure, only one serial ATA drive at the time... on a clean install. I'm not sure how to access the drive at this point
[03:35] <SoundGuy29> oops
[03:35] <SoundGuy29> you answered
[03:35] <SoundGuy29> allright
[03:35] <Quarupt> Slart,when I do modprobe glx its says its not there
[03:35] <Slart> Quarupt: it feels like a very "windows" fix.. but have you tried reinstalling the drivers? remove, reboot, and reinstall?
[03:35] <bulmer> Dygerati: can you paste your /etc/fstab in pastebin so we can look?
[03:35] <CBinGR> anyone here use the ipw3945 driver for wifi?
[03:36] <bimberi> SoundGuy29: for example you can give them the ability to run certain commands as superuser only
[03:36] <graft> SoundGuy29: sudo is extremely configurable, you can give them full sudo privileges, or limit them to specific commands, etc.
[03:36] <MrWamu> i'm trying to install Ubuntu SE can anyone help me?
[03:36] <Dygerati> I don't know how to access the fstab at this point, or boot for that matter. Can I mount the drive from the BusyBox shell?
[03:36] <jinx099> how do i tell if a NIC is recognized as gigE or 10/100?
[03:36] <Quarupt> Slart, restarting the whole box or just X?
[03:36] <Vuen_> hehe, ubuntu SE. that's funny
[03:36] <bulmer> Dygerati: yes
[03:37] <SoundGuy29> i see. i'll go RTFM
[03:37] <Slart> Quarupt: hmm.. I think just X should work
[03:37] <Quarupt> How do you save your session in Gnome?
[03:37] <MrWamu> Vuen?
[03:37] <Quarupt> Slart, yea I did try that :(
[03:37] <CBinGR> jinx099, try lsmod
[03:37] <Vuen_> MrWamu: mm?
[03:37] <MrWamu> Can you help?
[03:37] <Ricket> hooray for crappy ATI support. :S
[03:37] <Slart> Quarupt: no errors in the xorg log files? in dmesg?
[03:37] <Dante123> how do I  grant specific permission to allow non-root users to use USB devices (including SMART interactive whiteboards)
[03:37] <bimberi> jinx099: sudo ethtool eth0  (or whatever device)
[03:37] <Dygerati> bulmer: Soo, 'sudo mount sd**' ...? Tried that, whats the right command?
[03:37] <Dante123> in ubuntu 6.10
[03:38] <Dimensions> out of 1000 ppl no one knows how to boot from usb hard disk ?
[03:38] <Pio> are there any repositories which offer pre-built lirc modules?
[03:38] <Vuen_> MrWamu: mm, sorry, i don't really know how to install it. i just thought it was cute.
[03:38] <MrWamu> Haha cute?
[03:38] <bulmer> Dygerati: i'd like to learn a few...man mount and see if you can figure out how to mount
[03:38] <dimeo> dwid: google around a bit to learn about fstab...
[03:38] <Slart> Dimensions: I think about 900 of those are asleep..
[03:38] <MrWamu> Why is that?
[03:38] <Vuen_> MrWamu: here's the installation page: http://parker1.co.uk/satanic/installation/
[03:38] <CBinGR> Dimensions, does your computer have that capability?
[03:38] <dredhammer> hello anyone use screencapture software like xvidcap?
[03:38] <MrWamu> Thanks.. already have it
[03:38] <bulmer> Dygerati: i'd like you* to learn a few...man mount and see if you can figure out how to mount
[03:39] <Dimensions> lol Slart ...
[03:39] <kkerwin> Hi. Having a small difficulty. I used dvd::rip to rip a DVD into an mpeg, but the audio track was separated into a different file. Is there anyway that I can combine the two into one file?
[03:39] <Dimensions> CBinGR:  well in bios i have option boot from USB ...
[03:39] <dimeo> dimensions:  when you reboot... do you have options for a boot menu... like f12?
[03:39] <threeseas> is there any particular problem with getting wireless worjing inb LTS?
[03:39] <jinx099> bimberi: thanks
[03:39] <bimberi> jinx099: yw :)
[03:39] <JunK-Y> some1 can help me with my new wifi card ? http://www.pastebin.ca/336547  i can see my router, but cant use it.
[03:39] <CBinGR> Dimensions, and if that is set it doesnt boot from usb?
[03:39] <Dygerati> bulmer: Tried that, no 'man' command under this shell...I'll try google, brb
[03:39] <dimeo> treeseas: depends on which wifi card you have
[03:39] <dredhammer> how do you get screencapture software to record audio on the pc?
[03:39] <dredhammer> what sound device should you use?
[03:39] <sivik> how do i set up my mic so it works from further away
[03:39] <Ricket> If I am in the command prompt after X server refusing to start, and I have fixed the configuration file error that caused it not to start, how do I restart the X server? What is the command to do so?
[03:39] <Dimensions> dimeo:  when i boot and turn on usb drive it stuck the post screen before showing any thing much
[03:40] <Slart> threeseas: I think that depends on what chipset your wireless stuff uses.. some work, some don't
[03:40] <dredhammer> for that matter where is all that info?
[03:40] <graft> man this is the most annoying bug ever
[03:40] <cablesm102> sivik, you probably can't...
[03:40] <Slart> sivik: get a better mic?
[03:40] <Dimensions> CBinGR:  hangs on post screen, have tried on a laptop and desktop ...
[03:40] <sivik> i did it before, and i can't remember how i did it
[03:40] <Ricket> sivik: get a directional mic
[03:40] <Dante123> is there a good screen capture tool for ubuntu that does a region (as oppose to whole screen)
[03:40] <Ricket> sivik: or make a little paper cone, and stick it over the end of the mic :-D
[03:40] <Slart> sivik: you can increase the recording level and enable some boosting.. but that's it
[03:40] <bulmer> JunK-Y: whats the error if any?
[03:40] <CBinGR> Dimensions, i have never done it
[03:41] <dimeo> dante: capture the screen and crop it in gimp???
[03:41] <Ricket> What is the command to start the X server?
[03:41] <rio> startx
[03:41] <Vuen_> Ricket: no, not startx
[03:41] <Dimensions> startx Ricket
[03:41] <rio> x?
[03:41] <Ricket> startx worked
[03:41] <Vuen_> Ricket: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[03:41] <Slart> Ricket: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[03:41] <Dimensions> Vuen_:  used to be ...
[03:41] <Slart> bah
[03:41] <Vuen_> :D
[03:41] <Dante123> yeah...that is what I do dimeo....but I want to eliminate that extra step....
[03:41] <dimeo> Dimensions: maybe your usb drive isn't set up for autoboot correctly?
[03:41] <Dimensions> okay CBinGR thanks aneways ...
[03:42] <pierrelourens> is there an easy way to install xfce on edgy
[03:42] <Vuen_> pierrelourens: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[03:42] <dimeo> dante: fair enough.. work smarter not harder =)
[03:42] <Slart> pierrelourens: I've never tried.. but apt-get should work, no?
[03:42] <Dimensions> dimeo:  usb hard disk is having a clone of complete hdd with RH installed and lotsa data on it ...
[03:42] <CBinGR> Dimensions, seems hard to get any answer here
[03:42] <dwid> i dont understand how to add this to fstab
[03:42] <Dimensions> yeah CBinGR trying from many hours and its almost 3 am here ... will have to hit the office in morning too
[03:42] <dimeo> dimensions: do you know if that can even work?
[03:42] <Ricket> I love that message... "The system is going down for reboot NOW!"
[03:43] <JunK-Y> bulmer: no error, just cant ping the router.
[03:43] <Dimensions> dimeo:  yeah ... if i load my internal drive its on automount and i can see and verify all data is fine and working on it ...
[03:43] <dimeo> dwid you have to open fstab in a text editor and add the line
[03:43] <gaten> has anyone installed wine 9.30 and ran World of Warcraft with it?
[03:43] <Dimensions> lol Ricket try poweroff
[03:43] <jinx099> i have dapper running in a VMware VM, and the nic bridged with my gigE card "freezes", the other bridged 10/100 card works fine, any ideas?
[03:43] <bulmer> JunK-Y: paste your netstat -ran
[03:43] <pierrelourens> thank you Vuen_
[03:43] <dwid> how do i open fstab in a text  editor?
[03:43] <jinx099> the gigE card in the host OS also works fine...
[03:43] <dimeo> ricket:  this system will self distruct in 30 seconds
[03:43] <dwid> and what Line do i add?
[03:43] <Slart> gaten: very probably.. it's on the gold list I think on winehq
[03:43] <gaten> dwid:  sudo nano /etc/fstab
[03:44] <dimeo> depends on your mount point and HD format
[03:44] <Ricket> lol
[03:44] <dimeo> dwid: google around to learn about fstab configurations
[03:44] <JunK-Y> bulmer: i will have to change my card (im on a network cable now)
[03:44] <Slart> gaten: check the application db on winehq.com (or is it winehq.org, can't remember)
[03:44] <gaten> Slart:  i'm just wondering if i upgrade from .28 if i;m gunna have all kinds of problem
[03:44] <dimeo> or what gaten said | dwid
[03:44] <Vuen_> gaten: a great place for help on wine is in the #winehq channel here on freenode, and at the winehq website: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=1922
[03:44] <frogzoo> !appdb | gaten
[03:44] <Ricket> JEEZZZZZZZZ no matter what I do, I can't get teh stupid Mesa project thing to turn into the ATI thing... :S
[03:44] <ubotu> gaten: Appdb is a database of apps & help for programs that run under wine: see http://appdb.winehq.org
[03:44] <Dimensions> Dimeo donno but if original is working from a year clone should be too ..
[03:44] <Ricket> and I don't even know what i'm doing XD
[03:45] <dwid> gaten: and now what line do i add in
[03:45] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, whats the problem?
[03:45] <Pres-Gas> Hey all, anyone heard more about further PPC support?
[03:45] <anon_> OK
[03:45] <gaten> Slart:, Vuen_  and frogzoo ty
[03:45] <anon_> mp3 support in rythmnbox?
[03:45] <dwid> gOLdenHaWK3D: im trying to add a hd to fstab, i have fstab open, but i dont know what line to put in there
[03:45] <dimeo> ricket:  try $ sudo nuke neighbours bmw
[03:45] <Slart> you're welcome, gaten
[03:46] <dimeo> ricket:  linux command prompt is pretty powerful
[03:46] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, a hd? or a partition?
[03:46] <graft> erm... why does /proc/asound/version say 1.0.12rc1, but apt-cache policy says 1.0.11-7?
[03:46] <Dimensions> lol dimeo
[03:46] <dwid> gOLdenHaWK3D: a second hd
[03:46] <mister_roboto> dimeo: the command interpreter is even more powerful!
[03:46] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, ok. u use gnome?
[03:46] <dimeo> tell me more
[03:47] <dwid> gOLdenHaWK3D: im asuming so
[03:47] <dimeo> {is power hungry}
[03:47] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, ok. try opening terminal.
[03:47] <internet_> /hindi
[03:47] <dwid> okay
[03:47] <Dimensions> lol internet_
[03:48] <gOLdenHaWK3D> ha hindi!
[03:48] <basilio> hello
[03:48] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Jai hind!
[03:48] <Asc> how do I get rid of the bloody 'additional plugins are required to display all the media on this page' notification in firefox 2?
[03:48] <mister_roboto> dimeo: was just a stupid joke :)  the prompt is just the string printed out before the cursor awaiting your input.
[03:48] <basilio> I cant play a wav file. Is there something that I can do to correct this?
[03:48] <dwid> gOLdenHaWK3D: the termiinal is open
[03:48] <graft> Asc: install those plugins?
[03:48] <kbrosnan> Asc: noting simple
[03:48] <Vuen_> Asc: depends what media you're trying to view :/
[03:48] <jinx099> i have dapper running in a VMware VM, and the nic bridged with my gigE card "freezes", the other bridged 10/100 card works fine, any ideas?
[03:48] <Vuen_> !plugins|Asc
[03:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about plugins - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:48] <Vuen_> hmm
[03:48] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, good! type "sudo fdisk -l" without the quotes!
[03:48] <Asc> I want to do it without installing the plugins
[03:48] <Vuen_> oh
[03:49] <Asc> Did firefox 1.5 do it?  I don't remember.
[03:49] <kbrosnan> yes
[03:49] <dwid> gOLdenHaWK3D: okay i did that
[03:49] <flipchip> i need a hand with installing ubuntu. i used it before on a different pc but i can't get it to work on my new pc
[03:49] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, u saw a table?
[03:49] <dwid> gOLdenHaWK3D: yes there a table there
[03:49] <Asc> eh
[03:49] <kbrosnan> Asc: read https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=268936
[03:50] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, good! did u add a sata hdd or a simple pata IDE hdd?
[03:50] <graft> Asc: um, about:config, plugin.default_plugin_disabled
[03:50] <Asc> kbrosnan: will do
[03:50] <tehquickness> My gnome-panel keeps crashing, how can I solve this problem?
[03:50] <dimeo> flipchip: whats the holdup?
[03:50] <dwid> gOLdenHaWK3D: im asuming it was a ide, i dont know what sata or pata is
[03:50] <graft> Asc: set it to false and you should be good
[03:51] <Dimensions> aneways guys ... take care ...
[03:51] <flipchip> well i keep getting hda: ide_intr: huh? expected NULL handler on exit
[03:51] <Dimensions> :(
[03:51] <bruenig> tehquickness, kind of vague there
[03:51] <Dimensions> buhbye
[03:51] <mabus> My acx chipset card will work on ubuntu desktop, but not on ubuntu server. The module is loaded but there is an error with the firmware. Can anyone give me an idea as to how to fix this?
[03:51] <dimeo> dimensions: good luck with the drive
[03:51] <Dimensions> thanks dimeo :) will ask tomorrow if any one could help ...
[03:51] <graft> argh... anyone have any idea how i can get ALSA to tell me what the heck is going on? it's such a black box...
[03:51] <flipchip> and Buffer I/O error on device hda, logical block
[03:52] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, oh! just type this "sudo fdisk -l |grep Disk"
[03:52] <flipchip> and it keeps looping
[03:52] <Dimensions> flipchip:   are u installing ubuntu or what ?
[03:52] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, and tell the output
[03:52] <dimeo> dimensions: tried playing with a simple DSL linux install on USB ? There might be instructions out there on that one
[03:52] <flipchip> ubuntu 6.10 that's after the ubuntu splash screen
[03:52] <flipchip> on booting up the live cd
[03:52] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, what is the size of ur new hdd!
[03:53] <dwid> 160gigs
[03:53] <flipchip> i have 2 brand new copies that do the same thing
[03:53] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, ok!
[03:53] <mindstate> is there a file manager i could use that can display files grouped by Letter? sorta like explorer for win
[03:53] <Dimensions> flipchip:  happens mostly coz of bad disk aswell ... change cd ... second reason is bad hdd ...
[03:53] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, can u see it in the new command u typped!
[03:53] <flipchip> i tried adding irqpoll
[03:53] <dwid> yeah i can see it
[03:53] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, good!
[03:53] <flipchip> brand new computer, WD raptor sata hdd
[03:53] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, now open fstab
[03:54] <Dimensions> ummm dimeo will do that thanks buddy
[03:54] <Dimensions> :)
[03:54] <dwid> its open
[03:54] <vote4arealclown> ok....i'll put on my flame suit here.....is there a server tool you can install to connect to ubuntu to use the doze rdp client?
[03:54] <Asc> graft, kbrosnan: Thanks for the help.
[03:54] <Dimensions> buhbyee guys
[03:54] <flipchip> oh i tried to install on 2 different hdd's
[03:54] <dimeo> l8rsk8r
[03:54] <graft> vote4arealclown: any vnc client should do, no?
[03:54] <vote4arealclown> ya
[03:55] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, ah! dwid wait!!! i'LL brb!
[03:55] <Dimensions> flipchip:  i have seen this many times but used to change disks now find out which disk u have to change :)
[03:55] <dwid> ok
[03:55] <vote4arealclown> I have a user that wants to use remote desktop
[03:55] <graft> vote4arealclown: dunno about Gnome, but KDE has that built-in...
[03:55] <vote4arealclown> and you can connect with the doze client?
[03:55] <graft> dunno about that... but you can easily get a VNC client for windows that'll work
[03:56] <flipchip> yea, im no pro at this but i don't think it has anything to do with hdd's being bad or my copies of ubuntu... any other ideas i could try?
[03:56] <dimeo> vote4:  using freenx?
[03:57] <flipchip> im not using raid, it's off in my bios
[03:57] <Endur> can someone help me? I'm having trouble using the live cd
[03:57] <vote4arealclown> freenx?
[03:57] <dimeo> freenx is state of the art
[03:57] <vote4arealclown> i'll google it
[03:57] <vote4arealclown> thanks
[03:58] <graft> freenx = vnc on crack
[03:58] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, hey! im back. now tell me the disk name! i mean the output of fdisk -l |grep. it must be something like /dev/hdb something like this!
[03:58] <gu014> how can i have opera open azureus with torrent files by default?
[03:58] <dwid> Disk /dev/hdb: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
[03:58] <dwid> \
[03:59] <Vuen> vote4arealclown: don't use freenx, use nomachine nx
[03:59] <Vuen> vote4arealclown: freenx isn't ready yet
[03:59] <dimeo> endur:  trouble ... any specific kind?
[03:59] <graft> arr... this is intolerable!
[03:59] <gOLdenHaWK3D> vote4arealclown, Hey! try Terminal Server Client in Applications>internet under Gnome!
[04:00] <dimeo> graft:  chill mofo
[04:00] <Endur> dimeo: yea, when I try to load the regular live cd or the dvd it hangs right before the bar completes
[04:00] <dimeo> take a deeeep breath
[04:00] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, yes! now type "sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb
[04:00] <jt__> hey, i have a question running wine, i have an exe, which needs a file .dat, and everytime i execute it with wine, it says it didn't find the .dat, so what can i do? :( thanks
[04:00] <dwid> gOLdenHaWK3D: okay i did that
[04:00] <graft> sigh... just every time i hit tab in a shell, my computer starts beeping incessantly... nerve-wracking
[04:00] <jrib> jt__: check appdb for your app, also try #winehq
[04:01] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, again a table?
[04:01] <dwid> yes
[04:01] <jt__> thanks, didn't know that channel
[04:01] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, the entries under "Device boot" column are your partitions on your new hdd. ok?
[04:01] <dwid> okay
[04:01] <graft> jt__: also consider not using wine and finding a linx alternative, of course
[04:01] <jt__> i have a linux alternative, but it doesn't work
[04:02] <jt__> i open it and it doesn't show up
[04:02] <graft> what's the program?
[04:02] <dwid> and do i copy that into fstab table?
[04:02] <jt__> tibia, a game for linux
[04:02] <jt__> it needs very low hardware
[04:02] <jt__> only 28mb
[04:02] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, no! make a new folder. u know how to doit?
[04:02] <dwid> nah i dont
[04:02] <Quarupt> Is there a package for the Binary Nvidia driver?
[04:03] <kitche> Quarupt: nvidia-glx
[04:03] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, open another terminal & type "cd /" there
[04:03] <jt__> graft: do u know tibia?
[04:03] <blankfaze> is it possible to put just a custom folder, with whatever you want in it, on a panel?
[04:03] <graft> jt__: nope
[04:03] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, where do u wish to mount your partitions from ur new hdd?
[04:03] <dwid> it doesnt matter
[04:03] <`Shawn> Does anyone here know if I can burn a .iso file to a CD-R Audio?
[04:03] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, i mean which folder?
[04:03] <pointb> how do i change the icons shown for certain file extensions in gnome? (.torrent or anything else)
[04:04] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, make it. how many partitons u have on ur new hdd?
[04:04] <dwid> 1
[04:04] <chuckfromchan> hi i've got a question
[04:04] <dwid> it doesnt matter which folder
[04:04] <lijealso_> [Aft] 
[04:04] <Quarupt> kitche, says nvidia-glx is already the newest version???
[04:04] <chuckfromchan> is there any way i can get the apple ibook trackpad to work?
[04:05] <kitche> Quarupt: then you have it installed if you want the newest nvidia you have to install it yourself
[04:05] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, ok. no. it doesnt matter. make anyfolder where u wish to mount ur hdd
[04:05] <dwid> make it where and how?
[04:05] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, :( oh! open another terminal and type "cd /"
[04:05] <brownjava> does anyone have experience with remote desktop on edgy?  I'm having a problem with it being incredibly slow
[04:06] <dwid> okay i did that
[04:12] <Quarupt> kitche, but my xorg.conf says its using "NV" driver??
[04:12] <kitche> Quarupt: you have ot change nv to nvidia
[04:12] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, now type "mkdir dwid" or any other name u want for ur new directory!
[04:12] <dwid> goldenhawk3d: permision denied
[04:12] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, "sudo mkdir dwid"
[04:12] <dwid> okay
[04:12] <rcmiv> brownjava, use nx it's fast
[04:12] <dwid> now what to do
[04:12] <Endur> can someone help me? my live CD hangs at the loading screen
[04:12] <drivera90> guys
[04:12] <brownjava> rcmiv: nx?  not familiar with it...can you point me in the direction to setting it up, getting it working, etc.?
[04:12] <`Shawn> Could someone tell me how many CD's the latest release of ubuntu takes?
[04:12] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, now, from the other terminal, tell me the output of "sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb"
[04:12] <drivera90> how do I make my desktop pretty? (this is the main reason i switched to linux btw)
[04:12] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, is it /dev/hdb1 ???
[04:12] <dwid> under device boot, yes
[04:12] <regeya> drivera90: seriously?  that's the main reason you switched to linux???
[04:12] <gOLdenHaWK3D> drivera90, try Beryl,
[04:12] <rcmiv> brownjava, google nomachine, instructions are on their 'site and many howtos around--easy
[04:12] <drivera90> regeya, yeah. I'm in a ton of forums, and always felt miserable around "Show Off Your Desktop" topics.
[04:12] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, ok. now in the other terminal type "sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /dwid"
[04:12] <regeya> drivera90: if you work for a news agency, do us a favor and DON'T write an op-ed about how bad Linux sucks and what Linux needs to be "ready"
[04:12] <regeya> heh...
[04:12] <regeya> drivera90: in all seriousness, you should really work on learning a bit more about the system you've just chosen for your desktop BEFORE you concentrate on making it pretty.
[04:12] <dwid> wait which terminal, the one i just sudo fdisk?
[04:12] <rcmiv> silly question - is there a way to have "key clicks" in gnome terminal?
[04:12] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, any. it doesnt matter!
[04:12] <Vuen> rcmiv: key clicks?
[04:12] <drivera90> well i can work my way around it, do all the things I normally do, office stuff, some gaming, some emulation
[04:12] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, :P
[04:12] <regeya> o_O
[04:12] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, done?
[04:12] <rcmiv> yeah, click sound as you type
[04:12] <drivera90> music, codecs, downloads. pretty much all I need.
[04:12] <blankfaze> if i wanted to switch from gnome to kde, would i have to just do a fresh install using kubuntu instead of ubuntu?
[04:12] <rcmiv> like a typewriter
[04:12] <Vuen> rcmiv: haha are you serious? you want it to click like the hackers in movies?
[04:12] <MrWamu> I'm having trouble appending to nano anyone help me?
[04:12] <dwid> looks like it
[04:12] <dwid> thanks so much
[04:12] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, wait
[04:12] <regeya> drivera90: I don't say this to be mean, and maybe you've got some *n?x chops already, so maybe it's wasted on you, but I've seen too many people go for the 'pretty' desktop and wind out burning out fast 'coz they don't understand the OS
[04:12] <rcmiv> yeah, or more like ZorkII on a C64 actually, and I am serious
[04:12] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, its not over yet!
[04:12] <Vuen> MrWamu: appending to nano? what do you mean?
[04:12] <drivera90> could use something that resembles MS Paint, but I've settled.
[04:12] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, ha
[04:12] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, its just mounted! but its entry still pending in fstab!
[04:12] <rcmiv> I am actually surprised that no one has a script to do this
[04:12] <MrWamu> I need to put some lines into /ect/apt/sources.list
[04:12] <drivera90> I'm a quick learner, I'm just uninterested in learning anything until I need it for my daily tasks, PC-related.
[04:12] <dwid> ah
[04:12] <dwid> okay what to do now
[04:12] <regeya> I honestly think all those compiz/beryl videos on youtube are potentially damaging to the free *n?x community
[04:13] <`Shawn> How many CD's does the latest version of Ubuntu require to install?
[04:13] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, has it been successfully mounted? can u see its contents in the folder?
[04:13] <Vuen> drivera90: yeah, a pretty desktop is a very bad reason to switch to linux. you'd be better off using vista (not that vista looks any better than linux+beryl, just that it's easier). genuinely good reasons to switch are the stability and virtual immunity to viruses/spyware.
[04:13] <Quarupt> How can I see if my Hardware 3D Accel is working? glxgears?
[04:13] <Vuen> `Shawn: one
[04:13] <Vuen> Quarupt: yep
[04:13] <`Shawn> Thanks Vuen.
[04:13] <dwid> it wont open but it no longer says unable to mount
[04:13] <MrWamu> Vuen can you help me?
[04:13] <sivik> Quarupt, glxgears -printfps and if its over 1k, it should be working
[04:13] <dwid> i guess cuz there is nothing in there
[04:13] <Quarupt> Vuen, it runs but doesnt spit out the FPS in the terminal??
[04:13] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, why wont it open?
[04:13] <frogzoo> regeya: beryl is perfectly pointless, but does impress your boss if he's looking over your shoulder
[04:13] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, whats the problem?
[04:13] <drivera90> well, the thing is Vuen, most of the things that make Windows look as pretty as Linux are things I have to download and pay for, meaning I have to download and get cracks for, filling me with spyware.
[04:13] <Quarupt> AWW there is an option for printfps now
[04:14] <dwid> it just wont open it doesnt say anything whne i click on it
[04:14] <sivik> Quarupt, yes
[04:14] <dwid> it just does nothing
[04:14] <elcasey> I need help figuring which package to install to alleviate an error. This is the error message I get when running ./configure - "configure: error: You need GTK+ 1.2 or later to build this plug-in."
[04:14] <Vuen> Quarupt: glxinfo|grep direct
[04:14] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, oh! wait!
[04:14] <elcasey> I'm trying to compile xmmsinfopipe
[04:14] <Vuen> MrWamu: use gedit instead
[04:14] <drivera90> and spyware would, in turn, slow the computer down, making it harder to run all the things to make it pretty. thus, linux.
[04:14] <Vuen> MrWamu: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:14] <sivik> be happy if yours is right Quarupt, mine has never worked
[04:14] <Quarupt> Vuen 4567.589 fps, is good?
[04:14] <MrWamu> Yeah?
[04:14] <Vuen> MrWamu: you can add lines to your sources.list from inside synaptic by the way. just hit "add repository"
[04:14] <sivik> Quarupt, yes
[04:14] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, type "sudo chmod 777 /dwid" in any terminal
[04:14] <Quarupt> YEY
[04:15] <kitche> Quarupt: there was always an option for it
[04:15] <Vuen> MrWamu: instead of editing the file directly
[04:15] <regeya> WHOA.
[04:15] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, and then try opening it again!
[04:15] <sivik> Quarupt, anything over 1k means its installed correctly
[04:15] <elcasey> wow, thanks
[04:15] <frogzoo> elcasey: libgtk2.0-dev
[04:15] <dwid> still same problem
[04:15] <regeya> I just had a bunch of lines fly by.  saw a comment to me in there.  don't have logging turned on. :-(
[04:15] <Quarupt> kitche, I beg to differ I used to just type glxgears when i used to use ubuntu a long time ago and it printed the fps
[04:16] <Wimpog> GUYS, how can I boot from CD in grub when the system starts up?
[04:16] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, oh! try "sudo mount |grep hdb1"
[04:16] <drivera90> So how do I get Compiz/Beryl?
[04:16] <kitche> Quarupt: yes but glxgears is not meant for a benchmark so the developers hid the fps as an option only
[04:16] <Vuen> Wimpog: you can't. once it reaches grub it's already booted from the hard drive.
[04:16] <frogzoo> Wimpog: usually change your bios to look for cd first
[04:17] <frogzoo> !beryl
[04:17] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[04:17] <MrWamu> Vuen gksudo worked! thanks
[04:17] <dwid> ":dev/hdb1 on /dwid type ext3 (rw)"
[04:17] <dwid> :
[04:17] <Vuen> Wimpog: you need to boot from the cd before that. either tell the bios to boot from cd first, or hit the right key to choose the boot device (usually F8) during POST
[04:17] <Quarupt> kitche, Yea but I am saying you didnt need to give it the option before it did it by default
[04:17] <Wimpog> frogzoo: I did set boot priorities to CD, but it does not boot from CD
[04:17] <Vuen> MrWamu: gksudo is just sudo for graphical programs. gedit is the text editor.
[04:17] <blankfaze> in Preferences > Windows, under Titlebar Action, you can set action for double-clicking on the titlebar... is there anything that can change that to or add a right-click option?
[04:17] <frogzoo> Wimpog: maybe the cds not bootable
[04:17] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, it is mounted! try 1 more thing. in anyterminal type "cd /dwid"
[04:18] <Wimpog> frogzoo: it should be...
[04:18] <Wimpog> I'll try it on other PC
[04:18] <dwid> oaky now what
[04:18] <gOLdenHaWK3D> type ls
[04:18] <Quarupt> Man I cant wait till the IpodLinux guys get a distro out for the 5th gens
[04:18] <Vuen> Wimpog: don't worry, my motherboard ignores my boot order also. try intercepting it by repeatedly pressing f8 when you turn the computer on
[04:18] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, can u see the contents?
[04:18] <dwid> lost+found
[04:18] <dwid> 'is what it says
[04:19] <Quarupt> now I am off to find a good free FPS for linux
[04:19] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, is ur hdb1 empty?
[04:19] <slvmchn> i can help you quarupt
[04:19] <cchance> how do i access my windows partion
[04:19] <drivera90> Quarupt, Nexuiz
[04:19] <dwid> yes
[04:19] <Wimpog> Vuen: so once I turn the PC on, I just press and hold F8?
[04:19] <Vuen> Wimpog: no, press f8 over and over
[04:19] <Quarupt> slvmchn, ???
[04:19] <slvmchn> yeah, it comes down to: Nexuiz, Savage, Enemy Territory, True Combat: Elite, and Tremulous
[04:19] <Vuen> Wimpog: until something happens
[04:19] <MrWamu> vuen I tried updating after editing and I got an error...
[04:19] <Wimpog> Vuen: just keep pressing it?
[04:19] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, ahh!!! ok! now type "sudo nano -w /etc/fstab"
[04:19] <MrWamu> Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[04:19] <Vuen> MrWamu: close synaptic :p
[04:20] <Quarupt> drivera90, is that availible in any of the sources we generally use?
[04:20] <slvmchn> quarupt: do you want realistic, fast-paced, team-based, what sort of FPS do you like?
[04:20] <dwid> okay now what
[04:20] <cchance> i need a fast answer. How do i access my windows partion, forgot what its called
[04:20] <Vuen> Quarupt: sudo apt-get install tremulous nexuiz
[04:20] <drivera90> It should be, Quarupt
[04:20] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, goto the last line using arrow keys! and in a new line type this
[04:20] <Quarupt> slvmchn, I wasnt under the impression I had the option of being choosey, its linux
[04:20] <MrWamu> It says if I close synaptic changes will be lost?
[04:21] <Vuen> MrWamu: then tell synaptic to update
[04:21] <slvmchn> quarupt: well for gaming, linux has a bunch of FPS games, but not much else... for RTS total annihilation: spring looks good
[04:21] <slvmchn> but i can't get it compiled
[04:21] <Quarupt> I love RTS there are RTS's availible?
[04:21] <slvmchn> i play a lot of Savage which is a first person shooter but is also a real time strategy
[04:21] <dwid> okay type what
[04:21] <slvmchn> it's like warcraft but one person builds the base while everyone else plays FPS
[04:21] <Quarupt> We might have to take this to offtopic???
[04:21] <frogzoo> !wesnoth | Quarupt
[04:21] <ubotu> wesnoth: fantasy turn-based strategy game. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1.8-1 (edgy), package size 1820 kB, installed size 4140 kB
[04:21] <slvmchn> wesnoth isn't RTS
[04:22] <frogzoo> true
[04:22] <slvmchn> but it is still fun, it's like battle isle or advance wars
[04:22] <MrWamu> Even though I used gksudo?
[04:22] <Quarupt> thats a TBS, I hate TBS
[04:22] <gpd> My new Nvidia 650i based system won't boot Edgy Live  Asus P5N-E SLI
[04:22] <cchance> !windows
[04:22] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[04:22] <Vuen> MrWamu: gksudo is just a front-end for sudo, all it does is run a command as root
[04:22] <cchance> ag
[04:22] <slvmchn> quarupt: i play a lot of true combat elite, which is like  a "realistic" shooter like counterstrike, but all the guns have ironsights hwich ifind really cool
[04:22] <frogzoo> !games | Quarupt
[04:22] <ubotu> Quarupt: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[04:22] <slvmchn> quarupt: also happypenguin.org
[04:22] <slvmchn> has a shitload of games
[04:22] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid type this "/dev/hdb1 <tab> /dwid <tab> ext3 <tab> noatime <tab> 0 0" and <tab> means press the TAB key there. got it?
[04:23] <MrWamu> SO I still have to update synaptic?
[04:23] <gpd> I have tried apic=off and noscsi - any other options?
[04:23] <Vuen> MrWamu: what gedit did is it let you edit your sources. now that it's edited, tell synaptic to update. it should read the new source list.
[04:23] <Quarupt> lol could you guys MSG me all the RTS and FPS you mentioned, ill try em all
[04:23] <slvmchn> quarupt: google "total annihilation spring" too, if you can get it working let me know cause it looks really awesome
[04:23] <dwid> okay got it now what
[04:23] <frogzoo> gpd: acpi=off
[04:23] <disant> halla
[04:23] <MrWamu> I'm doing that now
[04:23] <cchance> Some one please, help me out i know its possible ive done it before i just forgot what its called to ubotu
[04:23] <gpd> frogzoo: ahah... might be my dementia! :D
[04:23] <MrWamu> Hopfully it likes it
[04:24] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid it should look like "/dev/hdb1  /dwid  ext3  noatime  0 0"
[04:24] <MrWamu> Vuen its updating sun-java5-bin?
[04:25] <MrWamu> Is that right?
[04:25] <dwid> yes it looks like that
[04:25] <Quarupt> slvmchn, Vuen, drivera90, can you guys priv msg me all the FPS, and RTS you mentioned please,  will try em all
[04:25] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, good! now its setup to be mounted automatically!
[04:25] <slvmchn> quarupt: did you see my PMs?
[04:25] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, now press Ctrl+X to save and quit
[04:26] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, just keep pressing enter enter!
[04:26] <Quarupt> yea slvmchn thx
[04:26] <cchance> PLEASE
[04:26] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, u will be back to terminal!
[04:26] <slvmchn> no problem, enjoy! and also check happypenguin.org, they have a huge archive of linux games
[04:26] <Vuen> MrWamu: sure, i don't know what repository you added or what you're trying to install
[04:26] <cchance> !winpartion
[04:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about winpartion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:26] <kitche> slvmchn: I m gonan try TA on my iwndows machine
[04:26] <Drekar> A friend was saying that installing non-opensource applications on Ubuntu was a pain...can anyone be more specific?
[04:26] <Vuen> cchance: two secs
[04:26] <cchance> !partion
[04:26] <slvmchn> kitche: TA spring looks so good
[04:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about partion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:26] <bruenig> Drekar, depends on the application
[04:26] <cchance> vuen, ok
[04:26] <slvmchn> it's like C&C generals applied to TA
[04:26] <dwid> i still cant open it
[04:26] <slvmchn> the videos for it are amazing
[04:26] <Quarupt> slvmchn, I am downloading the TA Spring, but if its source I dont have the build essentials installed so I wont try it, but if its binary ill try it
[04:26] <slvmchn> but i couldn't get it compiled
[04:26] <slvmchn> yeah i think it's source only
[04:27] <slvmchn> i odn't know if it has a binary
[04:27] <GMWeezel> My log in window is not the same resolution as my desktop; how do I correct this? Actually, I think it's the monitor frequency not the dimensions.
[04:27] <Vuen> Quarupt: why don't you just install build-essentials?
[04:27] <bruenig> Drekar, some proprietary stuff gets mad if you distribute their stuff so it can't be in the repos meaning that you have to install it yourself
[04:27] <young> hello
[04:27] <MrWamu> Vuen I'm trying to add the following lines to etc/apt/sources.list
[04:27] <MrWamu> # Ubuntu Satanic Edition deb http://parker1.co.uk/hell edgy main deb-src http://parker1.co.uk/hell edgy main
[04:27] <rcmiv> cchance, sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/win -t ntfs -o nls=utf8, umask=222
[04:27] <Vuen> cchance: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Windows
[04:27] <cchance> vuen, im in .06
[04:27] <kitche> slvmchn: right now it only has two maps
[04:27] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, u lost somewhere?
[04:27] <rcmiv> cchance, where hda1 is your partition, and /media/win is your mountpoint
[04:27] <dwid> yes i still cant open up the hard drive, nothing comes up
[04:28] <Quarupt> Vuen, everytime I have ever tried to build anything from source it takes like way to long and breaks at some point and I really don't wanna go through that again, I dunno how to do all the weird make and make install stuff
[04:28] <Drekar> What do you mean?
[04:28] <Vuen> cchance: here's the dapper page, it's probably identical to the edgy one: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Windows
[04:28] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, u wrote the fstab successfully?
[04:28] <ala> does anyone know where a good howto which outlines how to covert a currently running system to raid 1?
[04:28] <dwid> im assuming so
[04:28] <Vuen> Quarupt: only one way to learn :)
[04:28] <cchance> rcmiv, all that did was give a menu
[04:28] <frogzoo> Quarupt: learn to use 'apt-get source'
[04:28] <Wimpog> I don't know, it still doesn't want to boot from CD
[04:28] <Vuen> Quarupt: don't worry, it's easier than it looks
[04:29] <Quarupt> Vuen, Yea but I dont wanna learn, everything will be made easy for newbs eventually if we want people to stop using MS
[04:29] <gOLdenHaWK3D> type "cat /etc/fstab" to confirm
[04:29] <GMWeezel> How do I make my log in screen resolution the same as my desktop?
[04:29] <Vuen> frogzoo: that won't work, the package you're trying to compile needs to actually be in the repos, which makes it kindof pointless
[04:29] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, u wil see what u wrote at the last!
[04:29] <Quarupt> frogzoo, apt-get source???
[04:29] <bruenig> MrWamu, you said you don't know how to add those lines? sorry just saw your post don't want to read up
[04:29] <Vuen> Quarupt: well then don't play TA spring.
[04:29] <dwid> "/dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[04:29] <dwid> /dev/hdb1       /dwid   ext3    noatime 0 0
[04:29] <Falkon4860> where do I find the folder containing the Human theme?  I want to edit it
[04:29] <dwid> yes i see it
[04:29] <Quarupt> Vuen, I am playing it now it was a binary
[04:29] <decoy> j
[04:29] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, yes!
[04:29] <rcmiv> cchance, menu?
[04:30] <slvmchn> quarupt: TA spring?
[04:30] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dwid, now i think u gotta reboot! maybe! try it! im not sure!
[04:30] <dimeo> quarupt: ubuntu hardly needs much more than $ sudo apt-get install yourfavouriteprogramname
[04:30] <dimeo> never need to compile
[04:30] <dwid> okay
[04:30] <Falkon4860> anyone know where I can find the folder containing the Human gtk theme?
[04:30] <slvmchn> dimeo: only if that program is in the repos though
[04:30] <slvmchn> if not you hvae to compile
[04:30] <frogzoo> Quarupt: apt-get source d/ls the source from the ubuntu repos - but doesn't help if you need a newer release
[04:30] <Rob002> Hi there, I was wondering if this was possible. I want a shell script to run every time I put a DVD in my DVD-ROM drive to use avaliable tools to backup the DVD to XVID. Then eject the DVD when done, all without human intervention. I want to put my movie collection into myth
[04:30] <dimeo> tons and tons in the repos
[04:30] <Quarupt> dimeo, Yes, but these games arent in our repos there source meaning they need to be compiled before played
[04:30] <dimeo> everything the average user will ever need
[04:31] <bruenig> Falkon4860, I assume /usr/share/themes/Human
[04:31] <dimeo> quarupt: tremulous is
[04:31] <dimeo> that game rocks
[04:31] <Quarupt> dimeo, not the games we are talking about
[04:31] <Quarupt> dimeo, nevermind dude
[04:31] <dimeo> enemy territory is a download and rightclick
[04:31] <dimeo> which one you talking bout?
[04:31] <Quarupt> dimeo, ET sucks bad
[04:32] <Falkon4860> bruenig, yeah it was there.  Thanks for the help :D
[04:32] <Quarupt> dimeo, TA
[04:32] <rcmiv> Rob002, it is very definitely possible and when you write that script, I would like a copy!
[04:32] <dimeo> et is pretty popular for a 'sucky game'
[04:32] <Quarupt> its source only
[04:32] <gpd> frogzoo: sweet -- it now boots! Just a matter of the GeForce 8800 now!
[04:32] <dimeo> Total Anhilation?
[04:32] <Quarupt> dimeo, yes thats what it stands for
[04:32] <cchance> Thanks #ubuntu I now have access
[04:32] <dimeo> like the ooold school game?
[04:33] <Asc> Rob002: mencoder could be used to do the converting, but working out the appropriate options is far beyond me.  Erm... it doesn't do it automatically, but acidrip is a mencoder frontent type thing - you might try asking on its' forums
[04:33] <Quarupt> dimeo, no TA Spring is brand new, has a new engine to, it looks like Farcry on PC to me
[04:33] <cchance> Wait a minute i cant wright? How do i fix this
[04:34] <cchance> hold that i need to do a test
[04:34] <dimeo> quarupt: wow that's pretty awesome...open source version of the classic!
[04:34] <Geocritter> what channel should i go onto to find out about ubuntu hardware development?  I got a couple of problems that I need some help with
[04:34] <bruenig> development?
[04:34] <Quarupt> dimeo, no a sequel of a classic
[04:34] <Falkon4860> ok, well I found the Human theme folder, but I can't find the texture I want to replace.  I want to replace the gray menu bar with a black one
[04:34] <Geocritter> bruenig: i mean devs who are working on hardware under ubuntu
[04:34] <dimeo> "you will have to own a copy of TA to legally use this content."
[04:35] <Falkon4860> Anyone know if I can access the files used by the themes?
[04:35] <dimeo> not totally free though
[04:35] <Rob002> Any idea why vmware player is in Synaptic, but VMWare server is not?
[04:35] <dimeo> server isn't free rob
[04:35] <bruenig> Geocritter, the only channel you will probably find devs in (if you will find any at all) is #ubuntu+1, but generally these are support channels
[04:39] <Quarupt> Rob002, maybe cause VMware cost 300 dollars?
[04:39] <usr13> ls
[04:39] <Rob002> Hmm
[04:39] <frogzoo> Geocritter: hardware is really a linux kernel issue - not ubuntu
[04:39] <dimeo> virtualbox is free
[04:39] <Rob002> Looking at the website I can download server for free =P
[04:39] <dimeo> and it's AWESOME
[04:39] <rpereira> Hey... Did someone notice that Karma value is very lesser than some days ago?
[04:39] <Geocritter> ok, thanks
[04:39] <Quarupt> Rob002, try it
[04:39] <Falkon4860> anyone know how I can switch out a few PNGs in the human theme to customize it (beyond what the theme selector does)?
[04:39] <drivera90> So, how do I get Beryl/Compiz and make my desktop nice and shiny?
[04:39] <Rob002> I just did, VMWare server is free. Listed on the "Free" page.. etc.
[04:39] <bruenig> Falkon4860, just switch them out
[04:39] <dimeo> rpereira?
[04:39] <dimeo> karma value?
[04:39] <bruenig> very lesser?
[04:39] <Falkon4860> but I can't find them in the folder
[04:39] <rpereira> Yes, on launchpad.
[04:39] <Quarupt> Well I am off to try this Tremulous
[04:39] <Rob002> http://www.vmware.com/products/free_virtualization.html
[04:39] <Falkon4860> under gtk2, there's just an xml file
[04:39] <rpereira> My Karma on launchpad was 17k an now: https://launchpad.net/~rpereira
[04:39] <dimeo> quarupt: we wont see u for days
[04:39] <Falkon4860> so, bruenig, do u know where I can find the actual textures for the human theme?
[04:39] <bruenig> Falkon4860, no I am not really into theming, I will see if I can find it
[04:39] <dimeo> the guys musta been on mushrooms when they invented the spiders
[04:39] <Falkon4860> ok thanks
[04:39] <linux_lisa> hi
[04:39] <bruenig> !hi | linux_lisa
[04:39] <ubotu> linux_lisa: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:39] <dimeo> quarupt: it's uhh very creative
[04:39] <Rob002> Yeah, just looked. VMware server 1.0 is now free. Yet not in even the multiverse
[04:39] <phrowzen> can anyone give me a hand? i did a mouseover in my web browser or something, and its got this yellow box from the mouseover thats showing me the url of this webpage.. but it *wont* go away!.. ive closed opera, hit ctrl+a+d.. locked screen and came back in, and its still here.. i dont really want to end my X session right now
[04:40] <bruenig> Rob002, it has been free for a while and never been in the repos
[04:40] <cchance> Ive mounted my windows partion but now how do i wright to it
[04:40] <dygerati> bulmer: Alright, the main ext3 linux partition has been pushed back to sdc1, but the OS seems to think it's still sda1. The fstab uses UUID's, not sd**, to mount the partitions, so how do I correct it?
[04:40] <bruenig> Rob002, you can package it if you want, that would be nice
[04:40] <linux_lisa> my wifi was working with dapper, and then i clean installed edgy (maintaining only my /home partition), now my wifi (internal, laptop) is not recognized
[04:40] <dimeo> cchance: i don't think you can write to NTFS safely
[04:40] <Rob002> I have no idea how to even start :) I'm pretty new at this ubuntu thing
[04:40] <dimeo> cchance: unless it's fat32
[04:40] <frogzoo> !ntfs-3g
[04:40] <bigfuzzyjesus> how do i get my ip
[04:40] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[04:40] <bigfuzzyjesus> what is the term command
[04:40] <frogzoo> bigfuzzyjesus: ifconfig
[04:41] <cchance> dimeo ive got to ive got a corupt file preventing me from booting it
[04:41] <Falkon4860> bigfuzzyjesus, just google 'find my ip adress'
[04:41] <Falkon4860> there are a lot of sites that can tell u
[04:41] <ala> anyone know of a good tutorial that shows you how to convert a running system to raid??
[04:41] <Falkon4860> it's a little scary, actually
[04:41] <bigfuzzyjesus> frogzoo, thanks i knew it was something like this i thought it was ipconfig
[04:41] <dimeo> boot a live version of ubuntu or knoppix
[04:41] <linux_lisa> output of lspci-v for my internal wifi card is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3786/
[04:41] <linux_lisa> if anywone cares
[04:42] <Falkon4860> so does anyone here know where the theme textures are (like for Human)?
[04:42] <jt__> what should i do with this warning: libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b   ??
[04:42] <Asc> phrowzen: try changing the cursor icon-thing
[04:42] <cchance> !ntfs
[04:42] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:42] <cchance> !ntfs-g3
[04:42] <dimeo> hey.. write access himmm
[04:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs-g3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:42] <rio> my soundcard works using rhythmbox music player, but not when i watch videos thru youtube.  how do i fix that?
[04:42] <dimeo> !fuse
[04:42] <phrowzen> Asc, the cursor icon in mouse properties? ya? hmm ok ill try that. but theres nothing wrong with the mouse, just theres this stupid box with a yellow background and black text displaying a url..
[04:42] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[04:42] <jt__> what should i do if i get this warning, is it harmfull? : libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
[04:42] <jt__> srry
[04:43] <Asc> phrowzen: Oh, my bad - I misread.
[04:43] <phrowzen> Asc, thats ok, thanks anyways
[04:43] <cchance> What would go wrong if i wrote to my nfts partion
[04:43] <Quarupt> dimeo, that game is fun but multiplayer I am looking for single player stuff I can play offline
[04:43] <dimeo> not much... you may just become a full time ubuntu user!
[04:44] <dimeo> quarupt: gotcha
[04:44] <gOLdenHaWK3D> is there any inbuilt hexeditor in Edgy?
[04:44] <Asc> phrowzen: When that happens with firefox, it goes away if you mouse over the box(and maybe hover for a second).  If that doesn't work, make sure opera is closed and restart it.  If that doesn't work, tough ;p
[04:44] <dimeo> esp some classic RTS games.... c&C type stuff
[04:44] <gOLdenHaWK3D> or do i have to install it?
[04:45] <gOLdenHaWK3D> is there any inbuilt hexeditor in Edgy? or do i have to install it from any rep?
[04:45] <yhallothar> s'up
[04:45] <rio> my soundcard works using rhythmbox music player, but not when i watch videos thru firefox[.  how do i fix that?
[04:45] <dimeo> There was a 3d c&c type game in development... last i checked it was two years ago =p
[04:45] <yhallothar> Is there a better burning utility than CD/DVD creator for ubuntu
[04:45] <yhallothar> I need something that burns isos
[04:45] <mjukis> Can someone help my out here maybe? I have Kubuntu up
[04:45] <dimeo> yhall:   k3b  is good i've heard
[04:46] <dimeo> gnomebaker
[04:46] <Asc> yhallothar: gnomebaker works okay for me
[04:46] <mjukis> and running on a USB drive and have formated my main internal hd.
[04:46] <cowbud> is there a way to look at what params a module was loaded with?
[04:46] <dimeo> mjukis: good job so far!
[04:46] <gOLdenHaWK3D> yhallothar, Right click on Image (ISO) file -> Write to Disc... -> Write
[04:46] <cowbud> gnomebaker is trash brasero or k3b!
[04:46] <mjukis> I want to install Kubuntu to my internal hd.
[04:46] <mjukis> Have no cdrom.
[04:46] <cowbud> brasero is the rising star with burning
[04:46] <dimeo> golden:  i love how that's built into the OS
[04:47] <mjukis> :-)
[04:47] <yhallothar> hurhur
[04:47] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dimeo, yeah!
[04:47] <yhallothar> I've done that three times and it always says there's an error
[04:47] <mjukis> Can I run the installation program directly from within ubuntu?
[04:47] <dimeo> cow:  brasero is a good burning program?
[04:47] <linux_lisa> any help on my wifi issues?
[04:48] <dygerati> I've been dumped into the BusyBox shell due to a boot problem. ALL I want to know is which tool I can use as a text editor from this shell? Anyone know?
[04:49] <dimeo> mjukis:  so you've booted off ubuntu, not off a livecd but from ubuntu on your usb hard drive?
[04:49] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dimeo, instead of typing names, just type "gol" and press tab key, name autocompletion!!! :)
[04:49] <mjukis> Yes
[04:49] <cchance> !ntfs-3g
[04:49] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[04:49] <Nergar> hello, i need some help
[04:49] <mjukis> And wiped xp from my laptop once and for all. =)
[04:49] <dimeo> gOLdenHaWK3D: sweet!
[04:49] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dimeo, :)
[04:50] <spasticteapot> Does anyone know how to start Samba?
[04:50] <anon_> dygerati: vi, nano?
[04:50] <dimeo> that is a gaim specific feature ?
[04:50] <anon_> not sure
[04:50] <Nergar> i want to share a conexion, conect my lappy to internet with wifi and share that conection so i can connect my 360 to my lappy with ethernet cable
[04:50] <spasticteapot> /etc/init.d won't work.
[04:50] <steev> hey all - with fiesty herd2, via rhine chipset, i get no networking - i can't seem to find my edgy cd to install it though :(
[04:50] <steev> (and im out of cds)
[04:50] <yhallothar> Iso burning for linux :(?
[04:51] <cchance> Would some one pm me and walk me through seting up read/wright on the system for NTFS
[04:51] <dygerati> anon_: Nope, nor pico/emacs...or anything else that I recognize.
[04:51] <gop> is fiesty out
[04:51] <yhallothar> people make a suggestion and then someone else says that one is shit
[04:51] <rcmiv> Nergar, is your 'lappy' already connected to the internet?
[04:51] <gop> !fiesty
[04:51] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[04:51] <Nergar> yep rcmiv
[04:51] <digin4> hail humans!
[04:51] <steev> forums and launchpad don't seem to be pulling up any info on this, but i noticed that 2.16.20 release candidates the via-rhine module isn't working either
[04:51] <Nergar> i do that in windows but i want to erase xp for good
[04:51] <Creedence> hi guys... anyone have xgl install and have beryl die with the last update?
[04:51] <anon_> dygerati: then you might be out of luck
[04:52] <gOLdenHaWK3D> yhallothar, try cdrecord <isoname> from terminal mode!
[04:52] <mjukis> Can I run the ubuntu install program from within ubuntu?
[04:52] <steev> gop: yes, i realize what it is, im not new to linux in any way shape or form
[04:52] <yhallothar> hey I already said I tried that
[04:52] <gOLdenHaWK3D> yhallothar, then what do u need?
[04:52] <yhallothar> it fails. three times in a row with different disks.
[04:52] <yhallothar> I need one that works, obviously.
[04:52] <rcmiv> Nergar, why erase xp for good?
[04:52] <gOLdenHaWK3D> yhallothar, oh!!! try any graphical one then!
[04:53] <Nergar> cus i want my lappy to run linux and my pc windows
[04:53] <yhallothar> .  . .
[04:53] <spasticteapot> Nergar: what are you talking about?
[04:53] <patbam> hi, is there some way to cleanly upgrade my version of gedit to the latest version?
[04:53] <Nergar> i need to share a connection
[04:53] <spasticteapot> Hmm...
[04:53] <dimeo> rcmiv: there is a certain satisfaction on running a system totally free of that MS crap
[04:53] <spasticteapot> How are you sharing it?
[04:54] <spasticteapot> Dimeo: NO ONE denies me my BGII fix.
[04:54] <Nergar> so i can connect my 360 with ethernet to my lappy and connect my lappy to internet with wifi
[04:54] <spasticteapot> Ah.
[04:54] <spasticteapot> You're best off just buying a cheapie PC and adding a wifi card - less hassle.
[04:54] <spasticteapot> You can get one from Goodwill for about $15 - you don't need much.
[04:54] <Nergar> its hard to do that??
[04:54] <steev> less hassle? its a few iptables
[04:54] <Falstius> is there a panel applet that has gkrellm type output?
[04:54] <steev> lines
[04:54] <spasticteapot> Add a $10 wifi card, and you're done.
[04:54] <spasticteapot> It's pretty easy.
[04:55] <spasticteapot> I actually did exactly what you're talking about.
[04:55] <Nergar> i don't need/want a new pc
[04:55] <spasticteapot> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=349954
[04:55] <Nergar> that for me?
[04:55] <spasticteapot> Not a new PC - a PC just for serving internet for your Xbox.
[04:55] <kitche> steev: for feisty support #ubuntu+1
[04:56] <spasticteapot> What I have there will work for your Xbox - run the command, and set the settings as stated.
[04:56] <dimeo> spasticteapot: goodwill wifi cards = hackers are the future of recycling
[04:56] <Brunellus> hi guys.  what environment variable defines the keymapping in the console?
[04:56] <dimeo> gotta love it
[04:56] <Nergar> i don't have space for a pc where my 360 is, cus its the living room, i only connect to my lappy when i play (in windows)
[04:57] <spasticteapot> Huh.
[04:57] <dimeo> Nergar: u put linux on your xbox?
[04:57] <Nergar> no
[04:57] <Nergar> on my lappy
[04:57] <Nergar> dual boot
[04:57] <dimeo> i gotta buy an old used xbox for $40 and put linux on it... .it's a whole new net appliance!
[04:58] <yhallothar> dimeo what do you use to burn isos?
[04:58] <dimeo> rightclick the iso
[04:58] <steev> kitche: thank you
[04:58] <dimeo> simple as pie
[04:58] <yhallothar> That fails.
[04:58] <gop_> how do I install  identd  so I that I can connect to certain irc servers
[04:58] <gop_> in ubuntu
[04:58] <dimeo> won't access your drive or burns u a coffee coaster?
[04:58] <gop_> I have been unable
[04:58] <yhallothar> It just says at the end that there was an error writing to the disk and I've tried three different cd-rs
[04:58] <yhallothar> coffee coaster pretty much
[04:58] <dimeo> mmm sorry dude...
[04:59] <gop_> !identd
[04:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about identd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:59] <gop_> any here good with  identd
[04:59] <rcmiv> dimeo, (sorry I was out) yeah, I agree with that!, but I've not got completely there
[04:59] <dimeo> at least the blanks don't cost $10 any more .... =p
[04:59] <kitche> gop_: install oidentd setup it up open the port on your router and you should be able to connect
[04:59] <dimeo> my first burner was $1000... crazy !
[04:59] <Quarupt> Hey where do you get True Combat?
[04:59] <Creedence> Since the update to 0.1.9999 everything loads normally but I am unable to select beryl as a window manager from the beryl applet menu. It just reverts back to gnome.
[04:59] <gop_> kitche,  apt-get install oidentd
[04:59] <kitche> !oidentd
[04:59] <ubotu> oidentd: replacement ident daemon. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.0.8-1 (edgy), package size 50 kB, installed size 204 kB
[05:00] <kitche> gop_: yep sudo apt-get install oidentd
[05:00] <gop_> hmm
[05:00] <dimeo> rcmiv:  i bought a new dell notebook.... I've booted the windows partition ONCE in the past month  =).. just to  agree to the EULA... what was I thinking?
[05:00] <Nergar> dimeo, is there an option to share a connection like in windows, just check the "allow other computers to connect to internet using this connection" option
[05:01] <rcmiv> dimeo, see! they got you  heh
[05:01] <dimeo> nergar: not that I've seen yet, but I tell you.. there's almost nothing that linux can't do
[05:01] <Quarupt> slvmchn, hey where do you get True Combat couldnt find it in the repos?
[05:01] <dimeo> did you search the forums?
[05:02] <Nergar> no :P
[05:02] <slvmchn> Quarupt: google True Combat Elite
[05:02] <slvmchn> you can download the installer from their site
[05:02] <slvmchn> it was initially an ET mod but now it's standalone
[05:02] <rcmiv> dimeo, actually I surmise that there is little reason to be concerned with operating system preference anymore....with virtualization why not have the best features of them all?
[05:02] <Quarupt> slvmchn, so I take it that means I have to DL source and Build it?
[05:02] <slvmchn> no quarupt, it has an installer
[05:02] <dimeo> Quarupt: I thought ET 'stuxxors"
[05:03] <slvmchn> dimeo: TC:E is standalone now
[05:03] <blazerz> hey, i have a question, how do i create a binary?
[05:03] <Quarupt> dimeo, it does but maybe this mod is better
[05:03] <blazerz> "...To start Tibia you have to switch to the newly created Tibia folder. To do so, please start the binary called "Tibia"..."
[05:03] <rcmiv> blazerz, with a compiler
[05:03] <yhallothar> so
[05:03] <blazerz> rcmiv: compiler?
[05:04] <dimeo> rcmiv: i totally agree.. i've been so totally blown away with running windows 2000 on virtualbox (those 2 work related proggies I cant avoid are for MS!sigh)
[05:04] <dimeo> it f l i e s
[05:04] <gop_> oidentd installed and it setup in my router fowarded but still
[05:04] <Quarupt> slvmchn, maybe I am blind all I see on the site is PC and Mac downloads
[05:04] <gop_> can't connect
[05:04] <blazerz> what is a compiler?
[05:05] <rcmiv> blazerz, create a binary _what_?
[05:05] <yhallothar> so like
[05:05] <Quarupt> slvmchn, nevermind it was labled GENERIC lol
[05:05] <yhallothar> brasero, k3d or what should I use?
[05:05] <yhallothar> I have poweriso, does anyone know what you use with it in order to get it to burn an iso to a disc ;[
[05:05] <dimeo> rcmiv: I can open and close windows like a little application, or copy and paste the "hard drive"..... my whole HD backup was 300 megs in an RAR
[05:06] <blazerz> the faq says that to install this program: To start Tibia you have to switch to the newly created Tibia folder. To do so, please start the binary called "Tibia".
[05:06] <Quarupt> slvmchn, that Tremulous is fun, but I wish there was an offline version so I could learn it
[05:06] <cchance> Im dumping windows tonight if i can get ubuntu set up like windows. Whats good for runing games and id free
[05:06] <slvmchn> Qaurupt: give Savage a run too, i've been playing that the most lately... takes a bit of time to really figure it out, especially commanding, but it's really fun
[05:06] <AmbientMstr> Hey, I'm having trouble with the panels. My open applications aren't showing on the bottom panel. I'm using Beryl. When I minimize a window, it sinks behind the panel. What the heck?
[05:06] <cchance> is*
[05:06] <slvmchn> Quarupt: i think the only FPS that you can play offline out of these is ET, with bots
[05:06] <dimeo> yhallothar: i don't think it will change with a different program... it sounds like you've got a bigger problem
[05:06] <slvmchn> and maybe nexuiz
[05:06] <Quarupt> dimeo what was this VMware lookalike called?
[05:06] <rcmiv> dimeo, yeah it's really cool.  I do most of my work at home via windows in a vm...love it
[05:06] <abasinisvacant> how do i register a channel?
[05:06] <dimeo> virtualbox
[05:07] <kitche> abasinisvacant: /msg chanserv help register
[05:07] <Quarupt> slvmchn, thx for telling me that now I can cancel the DL of Total Combat Elite
[05:07] <rcmiv> dimeo, it just feels like windows belongs in that little box, heh
[05:07] <gOLdenHaWK3D> yhallothar, poweriso for linux?
[05:07] <yhallothar> yes
[05:07] <Quarupt> slvmchn, do you know any offline RTS or FPS's?
[05:07] <yhallothar> I ahve that
[05:07] <yhallothar> *have
[05:07] <dimeo> slvmchn: i read that 'savage'   feels like a chore to play... true?
[05:07] <gOLdenHaWK3D> yhallothar, try its documentation!
[05:07] <cchance> How can i run games in linux
[05:07] <yhallothar> not alot of info there
[05:07] <cchance> need a prog thats free and runs most fames
[05:07] <cchance> games*
[05:08] <Quarupt> cchance, after you install them you type the game name in a terminal or click the icon :)
[05:08] <gOLdenHaWK3D> yhallothar, what error are u getting when u burn thru cdrecord?
[05:08] <Daemonic> cchance, get all your good gaming hardware installed and working and pray to the Linux gods. ;)
[05:08] <cchance> no i mean windows games
[05:08] <gOLdenHaWK3D> yhallothar, i think u need to configure something!
[05:08] <dimeo> cchance :   $ sudo apt-get install tremulous
[05:08] <cheetah> cchance, wine
[05:08] <yhallothar> I can't say the exact error now, because I don't remember explicitly
[05:08] <Quarupt> dimeo, whats the name of the VMware lookalike you were talkin about?
[05:08] <cchance> NO wine for me i hate that prog
[05:08] <rcmiv> dimeo, of course I am ironically running right now with ubuntu in a vm on xp.. varies by the day.. thus my supposition that soon operating system will be pretty much meaningless....
[05:08] <cchance> dimeo, il try it
[05:09] <AmbientMstr> Hey, I'm having trouble with the panels. My open applications aren't showing on the bottom panel. I'm using Beryl. When I minimize a window, it sinks behind the panel. What the heck?
[05:09] <cheetah> cchance, I don't know then
[05:09] <gOLdenHaWK3D> yhallothar, u need to configure something! copy the error message and google
[05:09] <Quarupt> cchance, lol wine doesnt emulate DX so its not good for games, buy cedega
[05:09] <gOLdenHaWK3D> yhallothar, u will definately get some solution!
[05:09] <dimeo> virtualbox guys... virtualbox
[05:09] <abasinisvacant> i still do not know how to register a channel
[05:09] <cchance> dimeo, is that a game or an emu
[05:09] <gOLdenHaWK3D> yhallothar, K3B uses cdrecord underneath!
[05:09] <Quarupt> dimeo, if it was that good it would be in the repos? E: Couldn't find package virtualbox
[05:10] <rcmiv> cchance, its a vm
[05:10] <cchance> quarupt, cant i compile it my self for free?
[05:10] <blazerz> how to: switch to a newly created folder. with a binary?
[05:10] <yhallothar> I installed wine, but how do you get it to work after that
[05:10] <dimeo> rcmiv: running ubuntu on xp?  thats like complaining about your safety while driving on the autobahn at 300mph
[05:10] <gOLdenHaWK3D> yhallothar, if u install K3B, then u can configure its options graphically, or try XCdroast!
[05:10] <cchance> ok then i need to update my repositories
[05:10] <Quarupt> cchance, I heard there was script to build the CVS, but that was a long time ago, google it
[05:10] <cchance> !repositories
[05:10] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:10] <blazerz> how do i switch to a newly created folder. with a binary
[05:10] <zak__> yhallothar: "wine something.exe"
[05:10] <gOLdenHaWK3D> yhallothar, XCdroast is a gui of cdrecord
[05:10] <Nergar> thanx ever1 for the help
[05:10] <dimeo> Quarupt: go to virtuabox.org
[05:10] <rcmiv> dimeo true
[05:10] <yhallothar> ok
[05:10] <cchance> !easysource
[05:10] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:11] <Quarupt> dimeo, I am sure I can get it I am just saying if its as good as your saying, the devs would put it in the repos
[05:11] <dimeo> rcmiv: the whole idea is linux is more secure and stable
[05:11] <D7xk> is there a howto on setting up tv out?
[05:11] <AmbientMstr> Hey, I'm having trouble with the panels. My open applications aren't showing on the bottom panel. I'm using Beryl. When I minimize a window, it sinks behind the panel. What the heck?
[05:12] <bruenig> !tvout
[05:12] <ubotu> For help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)
[05:12] <gOLdenHaWK3D> one day these repos will overpower the whole MS world!
[05:12] <bruenig> will never happen
[05:12] <D7xk> bruenig: yeah, but I have an epia board
[05:12] <bruenig> as MS falls, Mac rises
[05:12] <narg> ubuntu's theme is brown-dominated, yes?
[05:12] <dimeo> what got me to switch was when my wifes computer AND mine were both plagued with 200 trojans, backdoors, spyware and viruses... each... while running norton
[05:12] <zcat[1] > ongoing problem; when I try to log in, I get as far as a blank blue screen and nothing else happens. This problem occures quite often and I already know this will come right after a reboot but this sin't Windows, anyone got a real answer?
[05:12] <gOLdenHaWK3D> oh!
[05:12] <yhallothar> Norton just sucks, Dimeo
[05:12] <dimeo> narg:  brown  is IN
[05:12] <zak__> bruenig: still, i'd MUCH rather live in a mac dominated world than the MS dominated one :)
[05:13] <bruenig> I hate the dock menu
[05:13] <gOLdenHaWK3D> maybe dimeo never updated it! lol
[05:13] <bruenig> I will blow my brains out if that becomes my only option
[05:13] <tom_> zcat[1] : i know what that is
[05:13] <asc_> narg: until you change it, yeah
[05:13] <zcat[1] > btw; using default session, gnome safe session, etc doesn't make any difference
[05:13] <narg> I have a friend who denies this :p
[05:13] <gOLdenHaWK3D> is there any hexeditor in ubuntu?
[05:13] <Logite> Hey guys
[05:13] <zcat[1] > tom_ yeah?
[05:13] <gOLdenHaWK3D> is there any hexeditor in ubuntu?
[05:13] <bruenig> !hi | Logite
[05:13] <ubotu> Logite: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[05:14] <bruenig> !repeat | gOLdenHaWK3D
[05:14] <ubotu> gOLdenHaWK3D: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:14] <tom_> zcat[1] : leave the blue screen for a couple minutes, it will then say gnome-settings-daemon failed to load. just means things like panel placing and stuff won't be saved.
[05:14] <gOLdenHaWK3D> ok!
[05:14] <dimeo> gOLdenHaWK3D: maybe autoupdate doesn't include the virus they haven't found yet?
[05:14] <Logite> I'm a windows user, (i game mostly) and my windows is being overly annoying. Curious what switching over to ubuntu would be like
[05:14] <rcmiv> dimeo, it seems to live up... those asian dictionaries haven't got through yet...
[05:14] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dimeo, lolz
[05:14] <bruenig> !info ghex
[05:14] <ubotu> ghex: GNOME Hex editor for files. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.2-3build1 (edgy), package size 685 kB, installed size 2332 kB
[05:14] <blazerz> how to switch to a newly created folder. with a binary
[05:14] <tom_> goldenhawk3d: yeah there is btw.
[05:14] <zcat[1] > tom_ any idea what causes it or if there's something I can force to restart?
[05:14] <bruenig> !info biew
[05:14] <ubotu> biew: console hex viewer/editor with disassembler. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.6.2-2 (edgy), package size 364 kB, installed size 920 kB
[05:14] <anon_> Logite: D/L a live CD and try it!
[05:14] <sivik> how do i set the amount of time between when running a command with sudo, that it asks me for a password again, i would like it to do it everytime, or have a timeout time of like 30 seconds
[05:14] <bruenig> !info hexcurse
[05:14] <ubotu> hexcurse: A ncurses-based hex editor with many features. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.55-2 (edgy), package size 24 kB, installed size 120 kB
[05:14] <gOLdenHaWK3D> tom_, yes! plz
[05:14] <bruenig> !info khexedit
[05:14] <ubotu> khexedit: KDE hex editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 362 kB, installed size 1164 kB
[05:14] <asc_> LogiteL not so good for gaming.
[05:15] <cchance> !bmp
[05:15] <Logite> Well I don't NEED gaming so much I guess
[05:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bmp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:15] <asc_> s/L/:
[05:15] <tom_> zcat[1] : i don't know i haven't managed to fix this either.
[05:15] <Logite> But what about for other stuff
[05:15] <gOLdenHaWK3D> thanx, but if i could get one for gnome!!!
[05:15] <oblib> anyone know about setting up courier-imap on ubuntu edgy?
[05:15] <zak__> zcat[1] : sometimes my system crashes on boot because the printer has a SD slot but nothing's in it [it tries to read and just stalls with errors] . could be something like that?
[05:15] <zcat[1] > Just tried killing gnome-settings-daemon, let's see if it respawns :)
[05:15] <dimeo> logite: there are some very good games for linux
[05:15] <wastrel> "ubuntu"
[05:15] <Logite> I'm not too worried about gaming tbh
[05:15] <blazerz> hey guys, please how do i switch to a newly created folder. with a binary
[05:15] <Logite> I just want a damned stable OS
[05:15] <bruenig> Logite, supertux is better than anything
[05:15] <yhallothar> how do you play css in windows :(?
[05:15] <yhallothar> er linux
[05:16] <Quarupt> dimeo, can you boot an OS thats allready installed on a seperate partition like VMware?
[05:16] <bruenig> blazerz, with a binary?
[05:16] <gOLdenHaWK3D> yhallothar, u mean counter strike source???
[05:16] <yhallothar> what else would I mean
[05:16] <Logite> cascading style sheetrs
[05:16] <Logite> sheets*
[05:16] <Logite> bahaha
[05:16] <yhallothar> you don't play those
[05:16] <dimeo> quarupt; virtualbox installs the os to a virtual HD 'file" you can copy and paste inside linux....
[05:16] <Logite> guess you could
[05:16] <gOLdenHaWK3D> yhallothar, one of my friends is running it in wine!
[05:16] <Logite> argh
[05:16] <Quarupt> blazerz, we would help but your question makes no sense? To switch dirs in a console use the cd command
[05:16] <Logite> too fast for me :D
[05:16] <asc_> Logite: It's mostly a hobbyist and enterprise OS, and things like stability seem to vary based on hardware.   It's been very good for me though.
[05:16] <Quarupt> dimeo, so you mean No it can't?
[05:17] <blazerz> thanks,
[05:17] <blazerz> but it says this: A new folder named Tibia will be created which contains the client and its supporting files. We recommend to do this in your home directory or a subdirectory of it, since also the map files and your config file will be created there. To start Tibia you have to switch to the newly created Tibia folder. To do so, please start the binary called "Tibia". Please understand that the client will not be able to find all necessary files
[05:17] <blazerz> to run the game if you try to start the client from any other location. If you want to create a desktop launch icon, yo
[05:17] <Logite> So what advice would you give me for switching from windows to another OS
[05:17] <tom_> logite: wormux is fun! same with nexuiz
[05:17] <gOLdenHaWK3D> yhallothar, i want to run it too! but can get my display drivers set up to 3d acceleration!
[05:17] <blazerz> To start Tibia you have to switch to the newly created Tibia folder. To do so, please start the binary called "Tibia".
[05:17] <gOLdenHaWK3D> yhallothar, :(
[05:17] <bruenig> blazerz, start the binary
[05:17] <anon_> Logite: try a live CD
[05:17] <bruenig> blazerz, just type the path to it
[05:17] <yhallothar> I just want to reinstall xp so I can set up a dualboot with ubuntu, I did shit backwards
[05:17] <dimeo> quarupt: no don't think it can
[05:17] <Logite> i just downloaded the one from the main page
[05:17] <mrpeenut24> hey im trying to change the keybindings for a fn+f6 etc for a volume up and i'm using xbindkeys, but it wont recognize the function key
[05:17] <zcat[1] > tom_: how long does it take before I should see an error.. I've leaft it for up to 15 minutes in the past and still just see the background colour....
[05:18] <mrpeenut24> anyone know what to do?
[05:18] <frogzoo> yhallothar: which cd u have?
[05:18] <blazerz> in terminal i write where the application is?
[05:18] <yhallothar> ?
[05:18] <bruenig> blazerz, type out the full path to the binary and it shall launch
[05:18] <dimeo> tom_: nexuiz looked interesting.. but the wierd thing is it runs so slow on my 3d card... other 3d games just fly
[05:18] <tom_> zcat[1] : it takes me around 10 minutes. if you're computer usually runs sluggishly, it could take longer. i'm not even sure you have the same problem as me.
[05:18] <blazerz> sorry, first day at ubuntu, where is the binary?
[05:18] <tom_> dimeo: runs great for me.
[05:18] <blazerz> at linux*
[05:18] <asc_> Logite: Try the liveCD first.  If you can, install it on an unused computer or disk before you overwrite windows, so you can see if the install process is manageable.
[05:19] <bruenig> blazerz, well it is in that package, somewhere. It says to run that tibia binary, I would assume that is in whatever you are trying to install or whatever you are trying to do
[05:19] <high-freq> anyone experience any probs wit rubygem and postgresql?  such as the command  "gem install postgres"
[05:19] <asc_> Logite: Those items are sequential, not simultanious
[05:19] <blazerz> oh, ok thanks
[05:19] <zcat[1] > OK this is different.. now gnome-panel's sitting at 99% cpu.. that never happend before...
[05:19] <Logite> what do you mean
[05:19] <frogzoo> yhallothar: dapper or edgy?
[05:19] <yhallothar> edgy
[05:19] <dimeo> logite: if your gonna install another os... make some room on the HD for a second partition to play with
[05:20] <Logite> right
[05:20] <dimeo> a handy tool:   download the qtparted boot disk iso and burn it
[05:20] <Logite> i'm just wondering why i should switch over
[05:20] <asc_> Logite: Just saying that I didn't mean to imply that you have to install anything to use the livecd
[05:20] <tom_> zcat[1] : delete the panel data in ~./gnome2/ maybe you have a panel applet misbehaving.
[05:20] <Logite> Would I be able to do everything but gaming that i'm doing on XP right now?
[05:20] <pavs> latest update of beryl messe up my beryl view. #D desktop doesnt work anymore what do I do?
[05:21] <dimeo> Logite: everything you do... break it down
[05:21] <Logite> the basic shit besides playing games
[05:21] <bruenig> !ohmy
[05:21] <Logite> music, web browsing, etc. etc.
[05:21] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:21] <usr13> How do you start an application, 10 seconds from now
[05:21] <dimeo> Logite: office work.. spreadsheets and wordprocessing web browsing... childsplay on linux
[05:21] <Logite> alright
[05:21] <bruenig> usr13, sleep 20;whatever
[05:21] <bruenig> 10*
[05:21] <usr13> bruenig: Thanks.
[05:21] <dimeo> Logite: you know how mac users say their pc is easier to use and more userfriendly?
[05:22] <zcat[1] > restarted gdm, back to original problem.. background colour, nothing else happening, top on console shows nothing eating CUP or high load-av, anything odd like that...
[05:22] <zcat[1] > *CPU
[05:22] <dimeo> Logite: not to mention virus free?
[05:22] <Logite> hmm
[05:22] <Logite> right
[05:22] <wastrel> i have linux
[05:22] <asc_> well linux ain't quite the same as mac
[05:22] <dimeo> well.. there are a growing number of mac users who are installing ubuntu instead.... I think that says something!
[05:22] <bruenig> hmmm
[05:23] <wastrel> i want a mac
[05:23] <wastrel> i would dual-boot with ubunto
[05:23] <seww> how do i update GAIM?
[05:23] <Logite> so
[05:23] <dimeo> yea... dual boot is quite handy
[05:23] <wastrel> !gaim | seww
[05:23] <bruenig> seww, to the latest beta?
[05:23] <ubotu> seww: Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[05:23] <coach_z> dimeo: i think that is due to the growing popularity of macs over the past year
[05:23] <seww> bruenig yeah
[05:23] <digin4> why does nvidia-glx freezes my laptop?:(
[05:23] <dimeo> coach_z:  agreed.. pretty good hardware
[05:24] <seww> thanks wasabi_
[05:24] <dimeo> coach_z: however I opted for the dell xps over the mac notebooks
[05:24] <bruenig> seww, try this command: sudo bash -c " echo 'deb  http://repository.debuntu.org/ edgy multiverse' >> /etc/apt/sources.list" && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:24] <seww> duh... thanks wastrel
[05:24] <Logite> is it going to be a manhunt to find programs to like play music and my graphics drivers etc.
[05:24] <bruenig> hmmm there is an unnecessary space in that command
[05:24] <bruenig> I wonder if it will mess something up
[05:25] <dimeo> coach_z: so you're triple boot on those intel macs?  Vista, Ubuntu and mac osx?
[05:25] <coach_z> dimeo: those xps notebooks are about in the same catevgory, but if my memory serves me right they are just a bit more configurable than the macbook pro's
[05:25] <blackfireheat> hi, somebody speaks spanish???
[05:25] <bruenig> !es
[05:25] <zcat[1] > any other ideas?
[05:25] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:25] <abasinisvacant> bueno
[05:25] <bruenig> que
[05:25] <coach_z> dimeo: no way man!!! osx is the only thing on my macs, plus they are PPC so no real dual boot options....
[05:25] <dimeo> coach_z: the xps m1210 was a hell of alot cheaper and state of the art...
[05:25] <Logite>  is it going to be a manhunt to find programs to like play music and my graphics drivers etc.
[05:25] <coach_z> ubuntu goes on all of my folding blades
[05:26] <Logite> when i install ubuntu
[05:26] <bruenig> Logite, no it wont
[05:26] <seww> bruenig yeah it messed it up... where's the space?
[05:26] <coach_z> Logite: nope
[05:26] <bruenig> seww, sudo bash -c " echo, there should be no space between the " and the echo
[05:26] <seww> k
[05:26] <dimeo> coach_z: I stuck ubuntu on an old imac... green jellybean color... mac os 9 wouldn't even boot!
[05:27] <seww> bruenig E: Malformed line 37 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[05:27] <bruenig> seww, yeah pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:27] <bruenig> It probably added that onto a line instead of putting it on its own line
[05:27] <bruenig> !pastebin
[05:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:27] <coach_z> dimeo: i ran ubuntu on my old titanium powerbook for a while ....deleted it and put osx back on....still as fast
[05:27] <asc_> As I understand it, a 3s-bit OS can be run on a 64-bit processor of the same architecture (e.g. x86 and Xeon), and it will run faster than a 32 bit OS on a 32 bit processor of the same clock speed, but slower than a 64 bit OS on the same 64 bit processor; and you can run everything that works on the 32 bit processor.
[05:27] <asc_> s/3s/32
[05:27] <dimeo> coach_z:  my second pc was a mac 040  ... fun fun... ohh and it had a cd 'multimedia' drive!
[05:28] <asc_> somebody tell me if I'm wrong
[05:28] <blankfaze> hey, i know this is a really subjective question, but what audio players do you guys like?  is there anything remotely like foobar2000?
[05:28] <seww> bruenig hmm ok
[05:28] <asc_> or, "you can run everything that works on the 32 bit OS with the 32 bit processor"
[05:28] <dimeo> asc_:  sound about right
[05:28] <anon_> is foobar winamp-styled?
[05:29] <cchance> !internetshare
[05:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about internetshare - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:29] <zak__> blankfaze: wtf is that? i like banshee [gnome]  and amarok [kde] .
[05:29] <asc_> dimeo: excellent.  Any idea what the speed difference is like?
[05:29] <tom_> BANSHEE!!!
[05:29] <tom_> !banshee
[05:29] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[05:29] <dimeo> asc_:  I read that 64 bit was kinda behind in the repositories.... so 32 is still the way to go.. even if it's not 30% faster
[05:29] <asc_> amarok works fine under gnome, you just have to install a few extra libraries
[05:30] <tom_> amarok looks dirt ugly in gnome
[05:30] <tom_> don't use it
[05:30] <anon_> I'm waiting for musikcube to be ported over
[05:30] <asc_> Looks fine to me, but then, I don't use gnome
[05:30] <zak__> asc_: doesn't work fine under gnome/xfce/anything else for me - but i'm still on breezy, maybe things have changed
[05:30] <tom_> yeah...
[05:30] <asc_> interface is crazy crowded though
[05:30] <tom_> its god awful ugly in gnome.
[05:30] <anon_> xmms if you need something that "just works", IIRC
[05:31] <zak__> asc_: doesn't handle virtual desktops and minimizing quite right here
[05:31] <tom_> or cd burning
[05:31] <tom_> omg
[05:31] <seww> hey bruenig, dont think i can just download the latest beta from sourceforge and install it that way?
[05:31] <tom_> try banshee or muine, quality players.
[05:31] <bruenig> seww, yeah you can
[05:31] <zak__> anon_: "just" as in "barely" :)
[05:31] <Logite> yo guys, can i boot up if i burned a livecd like i do with xp to install ubuntu?
[05:31] <gOLdenHaWK3D> xmms rulez
[05:31] <Logite> "boot from cd" in other words
[05:31] <anon_> zak__: not disputing the point
[05:31] <asc_> dimeo: thanks
[05:31] <theblue> Hi all, I think some of you may like: http://www.degredo.net/
[05:31] <anon_> i run xfce+juk
[05:32] <Madpilot> Logite, the whole idea of the LiveCD is that it boots from CD
[05:32] <zak__> Logite: of course
[05:32] <seww> bruenig should i get the rpm version or tar.** version?
[05:32] <zcat[1] > oh well, I found half an answer. There was four detetched processes that were part of my previous gnome session. Killing them seems to have solved the problem. Now I just need to figure out what to kill and write an 'if X isn't running, kill and of these processes too" cron job...
[05:32] <dimeo> xfce... awesome on slower pcs with less memory
[05:32] <bruenig> seww, if you can just get this repo line in, it would be very easy
[05:32] <dimeo> anon_: what's the juk part with xfce?
[05:32] <bruenig> seww, just do "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[05:32] <bruenig> and then put that in the pastebin
[05:32] <bruenig> !paste
[05:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:33] <Pelo> damit,  some of my apps are no longer in my language and have defaulted to english,  how do I fix this ?
[05:33] <asc_> ran it in a gnome session and it looks fine, including minimizing.  Not dead certain what virtual desktops are though
[05:33] <seww> bruenig what is pastebin? explain.
[05:33] <joeyk_> whats the best nvidia driver to install..
[05:33] <dimeo> asc_: more screen space = virtual desktops... ?
[05:33] <tom_> seww: post big long texts there so you don't annoy the rest of us.
[05:33] <seww> ah
[05:33] <tom_> more than 3 lines long.
[05:33] <bruenig> seww, go to that link http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org paste the output of that command and it will give you a url, paste that in here
[05:33] <gOLdenHaWK3D> theBishop, its a good idea to install ubuntu on someones pc, saying its vista!
[05:33] <asc_> dimeo: Oh.  Synonym for workspaces.
[05:34] <seww> bruenig ok get it
[05:34] <gOLdenHaWK3D> theBlue, its a good idea to install ubuntu on someones pc, saying its vista!
[05:34] <dimeo> hah!
[05:34] <theblue> gOLdenHaWK3D, Your sarcasm is overwhelming.
[05:34] <asc_> yeah, it's handling workspaced just fine.... ;p
[05:34] <seww> bruenig http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3792/
[05:35] <_Archangel> !newsreader | _Archangel
[05:35] <zak__> dimeo: approximately how big is the virtualbox binary? opera doesn't give a total size, and i'm on dialup, so if it's too big i can't be bothered
[05:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about newsreader - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:35] <_Archangel> !newsgroups | _Archangel
[05:35] <ubotu> _Archangel: There are Ubuntu newsgroups via NNTP at news.gmane.org
[05:35] <bruenig> seww, cat /etc/apt/sources.list paste the output of that
[05:35] <dimeo> a dude at work got his MS thinkpad all screwed up...a virus or something...  so a friend's gonna put ubuntu onto it to help him out.. we should just tell him its vista! =p
[05:35] <gOLdenHaWK3D> :)
[05:35] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dimeo, its cool!
[05:36] <seww> bruenig http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3793/
[05:36] <gOLdenHaWK3D> dimeo, more users to ubuntu!
[05:36] <_Archangel> if i want to upgrade to edgy, do i need to edit my services.list and change dapper -> edgy ?
[05:36] <_Archangel> then upgrade?
[05:36] <_Archangel> apt-get update (?)
[05:36] <zak__> dimeo: try it... if you're extra bored, you could probably even change the about box thing to talk about microsoft :)
[05:37] <dimeo> zak__: is nothing sacred?
[05:37] <theblue> Hmm.
[05:37] <asc_> Will linux detect and use multiple processors/cores automagically?  Also, do they get seperate load indicators (e.g. in 'top')
[05:37] <bruenig> seww, do gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list, I corrected your /etc/apt/sources.list at the bottom. Edit your sources.list accordingly, Then do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:37] <dimeo> I wanna ubuntu logo my workplace everywhere
[05:38] <dimeo> asc_: good question.. I find edgy cycled 50% between my Duo core2
[05:38] <seww> bruenig call me stupid, but where do i find your version of my sources.list?
[05:38] <bruenig> seww, oh sorry I meant to link it
[05:38] <bruenig> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3794/
[05:38] <seww> bruenig cool
[05:38] <seww> bruenig thx
[05:39] <asc_> dimeo: could you expand on that explanation a bit?
[05:39] <ghostkernel> is this a help channel?
[05:39] <tritohc> yes
[05:40] <ghostkernel> good
[05:40] <tritohc> read the links in topic, though, if you are just formulating a question
[05:40] <ghostkernel> can i ask you guys a question
[05:40] <asc_> ghostkernel: But it doesn't come with terms of service or a warranty
[05:40] <zak__> dimeo: nope, not even firefox, with appropriate themes and a custom homepage talking about vista :)
[05:40] <seww> bruenig what exactly did you change?
[05:40] <ghostkernel> how come ubuntu doesnt come with a g++ compiler?
[05:40] <bruenig> seww, at the bottom there I deleted some lines
[05:41] <ghostkernel> or mp3 file support
[05:41] <seww> bruenig yeah thats it though?
[05:41] <bruenig> seww, yeah
[05:41] <seww> bruenig k cool
[05:41] <bruenig> ghostkernel, because it doesn't do you want it?
[05:41] <ghostkernel> no
[05:41] <ghostkernel> i have it
[05:41] <asc_> ghostkernel: I think it's because most average users don't compile and because mp3 is non-free
[05:41] <gOLdenHaWK3D> ghostkernel, it does! i downloaded the alternate install disc! it has gcc, g++, but no MP3 support! maybe mp3 codecs are proprietry! :(
[05:41] <ghostkernel> i just wonder how come every distro has it except ubuntu
[05:41] <bruenig> problem solved great
[05:41] <dimeo> asc_: well when I run the system monitor to see how much CPU my program is eating up... it's never using both processors at 100%.. and it gets me wondering if things are running slower than they could be
[05:42] <bruenig> gentoo doesn't
[05:42] <zak__> ghostkernel: g++ can be installed without downloading it; it's just not installed by default, and i believe there are licensing reasons for not including mp3 support
[05:42] <asc_> dimeo: Okay, I get it now.  Thanks.
[05:42] <ghostkernel> well its because you select your packages in gentoo
[05:42] <ghostkernel> well yeah pretty much the smae thing
[05:42] <ghostkernel> lol
[05:42] <sivik> where would i write a command to run on startup, after kdm
[05:42] <dimeo> theres an ubuntu based distro... whats it called... mint
[05:43] <zak__> ghostkernel: as in ubuntu - just install it by synaptic or apt-get
[05:43] <bruenig> linux mint yeah
[05:43] <ghostkernel> i personally think ubuntu is a very stable distro,ive been using it for one month now
[05:43] <dimeo> has all the codecs in it by default
[05:43] <ghostkernel> i like it
[05:43] <dimeo> theres a reason ubuntu is the #1 distro
[05:43] <bruenig> ghostkernel, in the next version, when you open an mp3 or other thing that needs a codec it will give you the option to install
[05:43] <ghostkernel> yeah an thats publicity
[05:43] <dimeo> sorry : make that a million reasons
[05:43] <seww> bruenig http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3795/
[05:44] <_Archangel> anyone have issues with upgrading from dapper to edgy with the download locking up the computer ?
[05:44] <zak__> bruenig: that's something that should of happened for a loooong time
[05:44] <dimeo> biggest most active community... regular updates
[05:44] <zak__> bruenig: most complaints i hear about linux are either 1) drivers or 2) codecs
[05:44] <bruenig> codecs are boring
[05:44] <wastrel> "linux"
[05:44] <bruenig> drivers and wireless
[05:44] <bruenig> those are the only issues
[05:44] <ghostkernel> its annoying to install codecs manually
[05:44] <ghostkernel> lol
[05:45] <bruenig> you go to ubuntuguide, copy and paste one command and your done
[05:45] <zak__> heh
[05:45] <dimeo> _Archangel: I tried to 'upgrade' without RTFM first.. totally screwed up an ubuntu pc
[05:45] <Logite> do i have to install any drivers after i first instill ubuntu
[05:45] <theblue> Personally, I think that Ubuntu is *brilliant* for desktop machines, and that if Linux makes it to the home and business desktop, it's going to be through Ubuntu.
[05:45] <_Archangel> RTFM ?
[05:45] <zak__> bruenig: and how do users know to do this?
[05:45] <dimeo> reading the fing manual
[05:45] <anon_> _Archangel: read the f' manual
[05:45] <theblue> It has its limitations, of course, but for the Average Joe (or Jane), it's almost perfect.
[05:45] <dimeo> you know .. doing what a hacker does
[05:45] <_Archangel> HAHA
[05:46] <Pelo> ok once again, ( sorry for leaving so quickly last time),  my localisation got borked, how do I fix it ?
[05:46] <blankfaze> is it possible just to add a custom dropdown menu, with custom contents, to a panel?
[05:46] <bruenig> What I mean to say essentially is that the codec fix is very easy
[05:46] <bruenig> writing drivers is hard
[05:46] <dimeo> theblue: for just desktop machines?   i looove it on my little notebook
[05:46] <wastrel> "notebook"
[05:46] <zak__> bruenig: g++ - sure, anyone who actually needs to use it would know they have to install it, but with codecs, a user will just think "wtf? linux doesn't support mp3? this blows, i'm going back to xp"
[05:46] <ghostkernel> xp blows
[05:46] <anon_> it does, you just have to ask nicely
[05:47] <Pelo> blankfaze,  right click on the panel , add,  and select drawer I think it is called
[05:47] <coach_z> how do you find your ip in ubuntu is it lsip ?
[05:47] <anon_> speaking of which
[05:47] <wastrel> "ubuntu"
[05:47] <frogzoo> coach_z: ifconfig
[05:47] <bruenig> I mean as far as actual problems, codec isn't one
[05:47] <ghostkernel> thats why i think ubuntu should come with all audio and video codecs so people can say no to xp and yes to ubuntu
[05:47] <coach_z> frogzoo thanks,
[05:47] <bruenig> you might say that it dissuades new users and such but it isn't actually a problem
[05:47] <wastrel> ghostkernel:  it would be illegal to distribute
[05:47] <gOLdenHaW1K3D> ghostkernel, maybe u r right
[05:47] <anon_> ghostkernel: free software!
[05:47] <theblue> dimeo, You know what I mean.
[05:47] <dimeo> ghostkernel: copyright issues and lawsuits are avoided ... makes sense
[05:48] <bruenig> I mean look at automatix, a glorified script and it is lauded as this great thing that makes things so much easier. That is how easy it would be to fix if someone really wanted to
[05:48] <anon_> can some recommend alternative file browsers?
[05:48] <gOLdenHaW1K3D> dimeo, :(
[05:48] <anon_> Thunar is dricing me nuts
[05:48] <ghostkernel> i see dimeo
[05:48] <gOLdenHaW1K3D> ghostkernel, maybe we can switch to Open Codecs like Ogg
[05:48] <ghostkernel> but how come rpm based distro do have them?
[05:48] <zak__> ghostkernel: i think it should certainly be easier and more obvious to install them, but licensing means they can't be included by default [perhaps even to the extent that some users could get in legal trouble] 
[05:49] <theblue> gOLdenHaW1K3D, Good luck, RIAA/MPAA have enough trouble switching to *standards*, let alone open codecs.
[05:49] <ghostkernel> yeah but people should know how linux is so great in many ways
[05:49] <coach_z> second question: how does one set up 3 linux boxes to have static ip's?  my network goes like this: wireless router to powermac....powermac shares connection via ethernet to switch, switch goes to three computers??  none of the three computers show up on the router
[05:49] <gOLdenHaW1K3D> theblue, what do u mean?
[05:49] <zak__> ghostkernel: probably because they have disclaimers, licenses, etc. - ubuntu tries to avoid that, and be based entirely on free software
[05:49] <ghostkernel> but still i cannot change that
[05:49] <theblue> gOLdenHaW1K3D, They won't distribute in MP3, let along OGG!
[05:49] <ghostkernel> yeah thats a good thing
[05:49] <xpoint> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3796/ how do i solve this one ?
[05:49] <ghostkernel> hooray for open source
[05:49] <ziro01> hi
[05:49] <gOLdenHaW1K3D> theblue, yes! u r right! but we can!
[05:49] <ziro01> private
[05:49] <seww> bruenig http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3795/
[05:50] <theblue> gOLdenHaW1K3D, How so?
[05:50] <dimeo> mint is a good idea for a distro... but i think ubuntu has the credibility of a safe and secure os.. mint?  god knows what their credentials are?  could be totally hacked with backdoors for all I know
[05:50] <theblue> dimeo, Better than the alternative, I guess!
[05:50] <TheDebugger> I wish i could transcode my mp3s to ogg without a big loss of quality..
[05:50] <theblue> dimeo, Where we *know* it's hacked with backdoors.
[05:50] <gOLdenHaW1K3D> theblue, we should stop using mp3, and start ising ogg! we can convert exisiting songs to ogg.
[05:50] <bruenig> seww, paste your /etc/apt/sources.list back in again by itself. I don't know which line 35 is
[05:51] <theblue> gOLdenHaW1K3D, Copyright violation.
[05:51] <wastrel> gOLdenHaW1K3D:  buy me a mp3 player that works with ogg
[05:51] <bruenig> rockbox
[05:51] <dimeo> theblue: hah... good point 8-)
[05:51] <bruenig> I think that is what it is called, the firmware
[05:51] <ghostkernel> i have a 60 dollar mp3 and oggs work just fine.
[05:51] <ghostkernel> lol
[05:51] <regeya> wastrel: iriver
[05:51] <gOLdenHaW1K3D> wastrel, i fear there isnt any mp3 player!
[05:51] <theblue> wastrel, I think some Creative Zens can play ogg.
[05:51] <Rug> Well I just got done playing with Vista.  It is more annoying then I thought would be possible.
[05:51] <wastrel> sigh
[05:51] <TheDebugger> bruenig: Rockbox is not bad but.. still not friendly enough..
[05:51] <theblue> Rug, So who wins
[05:51] <zak__> wastrel: i think a lot of the creative range play oggs
[05:51] <wastrel> "buy me" = you replace mine
[05:52] <Rug> theblue: linux of course, no contest
[05:52] <seww> bruenig http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3798/ line 35 is the last one
[05:52] <gOLdenHaW1K3D> hah!
[05:52] <bruenig> the friendly police cries too much
[05:52] <theblue> Rug, Well, now that we've got that out of the way.
[05:52] <bruenig> codecs rockbox
[05:52] <dimeo> it was the breaking point for me with decades of Microshaft... viruses just god out of control in the past decade
[05:52] <dimeo> god=got
[05:52] <ghostkernel> goodnight people,its been really fun chatting with you,god bless you,and god bell america
[05:52] <regeya> not that I'm criticizing, but how did we get to the point of trying to convince wastrel to use ogg, which led to wastrel demanding that someone buy a replacement portable player
[05:52] <ghostkernel> fuck pakis and afghans
[05:52] <theblue> ghostkernel, Remember, you're dealing with Sony, among others, here.
[05:52] <dimeo> l8rz
[05:52] <Akuma_> how can i get a system beep without echoing anything?
[05:52] <bruenig> seww, ooooooooohhh, put a space between the / and edgy
[05:53] <dimeo> ghost: cut out the racist shite
[05:53] <Rug> theblue: hehe, I'm a geek; hell I still have Dos5 and  OS/2 kicking around here.  I gotta try the new stuff!
[05:53] <tonyyarusso> dimeo: He did.  ;)
[05:53] <theblue> Rug, OS/2!!!
[05:53] <wastrel> regeya:  i'm always trying to cadge free stuff.
[05:53] <bruenig> what a weird exit
[05:53] <theblue> Rug, The *GREATEST* OS *EVER!*
[05:53] <bruenig> kind of genius
[05:53] <zak__> microsoft NEVER seems to do ANYTHING that actually benefits the user... 3D guis based on 2D concepts with 4D price tags do nothing for usability
[05:53] <regeya> hehe wastrel
[05:53] <sess> Is there an app similar to Illustrator?
[05:53] <seww> bruenig ok
[05:53] <bruenig> zak__, did you put that brilliant line on your blog
[05:53] <theblue> Oh, here's my horror story: Windows 98 for 6 years.
[05:53] <Rug> OS/2:  "Runs DOS better then DOS and Windows better then Windows."
[05:54] <zak__> sess: inkscape
[05:54] <regeya> wastrel, if it makes you feel better, you wouldn't be the only person to keep on using mp3/whatever due to lack of hardware/proprietary player support
[05:54] <TheDebugger> sess: xara lx is the best i tried
[05:54] <zak__> bruenig: huh?
[05:54] <wastrel> <3 inkscape
[05:54] <regeya> bwahahaha
[05:54] <theblue> Rug, "And if you're lucky, runs Macintosh apps as well."
[05:54] <dimeo> rug: what *was* the facination with os2
[05:54] <bruenig> zak__, seemed like a news pun joke thing
[05:54] <regeya> Rug: You mean 16-bit Windows?
[05:54] <zeifer> Hey xelados
[05:54] <bruenig> that makes you want to vomit because of its genericness
[05:54] <dimeo> multitasking. . b4 windows 3.1 could?
[05:54] <Rug> regeya: yeah, 16-bit.  The only competition back then was Win3.1
[05:54] <bruenig> seww, now do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade, after you edit it of course
[05:55] <xelados> Quick question: is it safe to upgrade from dapper to edgy? A while back, I heard that edgy was recommended only for developers..
[05:55] <blankfaze> is there a way to change the colour/font of tooltips?
[05:55] <seww> bruenig done that
[05:55] <theblue> Rug, And 3.11, but noone cared about 3.11.
[05:55] <xelados> hey ze
[05:55] <sess> oh wow, thanks a ton gents
[05:55] <seww> bruenig now what?
[05:55] <regeya> inkscape is nice
[05:55] <xelados> zeifer*
[05:55] <sess> just what I was lookin for
[05:55] <Rug> dimeo: it was FAST and _very_ cool
[05:55] <bruenig> seww, um, try sudo apt-get install gaim
[05:55] <Rug> dimeo: my DOS games ran FASTER on OS/2 then on plain DOS
[05:55] <dimeo> Rug: cool how?  eyecandy?  like oooh icons?
[05:55] <asc_> are there any quad-core 64 bit x86 processors?
[05:55] <theblue> Rug, There was no eyecandy or oooh icons in OS/2.
[05:55] <seww> bruenig that didn't do anything... i have gaim installed, need to update it
[05:56] <theblue> I mean.
[05:56] <theblue> dimeo, There was no eyecandy or oooh icons in OS/2.
[05:56] <xelados> Quick question: is it safe to upgrade from dapper to edgy? A while back, I heard that edgy was recommended only for developers..
[05:56] <bruenig> seww, well that new repo has the latest version
[05:56] <regeya> theblue: !
[05:56] <Rug> dimeo: no, multi-tasking.  You need to remember, the comparison was against Windows for WorkGroups v3.11
[05:56] <regeya> theblue: 3.11 was the best of the 3.x line
[05:56] <asc_> xelados: it's plenty stable for me.
[05:56] <theblue> regeya, www.toastytech.com/guis/
[05:56] <theblue> regeya, But it paled in sales to 3.1
[05:56] <asc_> xelados: some people disagree, but I usually ignore them
[05:56] <theblue> regeya, and I thought "3.11 for Workgroups" was the best.
[05:56] <zak__> dimeo: it was you talking about virtualbox right? how big approximately is the download?
[05:56] <regeya> theblue: well, yeah, they sold it as Windows *For Workgroups*
[05:56] <bulmer> xelados: what are you after?
[05:56] <iminlalaland> I'm having problems installing Ubuntu, can anyone help me please?
[05:56] <dimeo> asc_: there's this dude I read about on hackaday... he joined together like 12 minimacs into one supercomputer.. beats a quadcore!
[05:56] <zeifer> Has anybody tried to apt-get distupgrade on Dapper?
[05:56] <seww> bruenig maybe i have the latest version then
[05:57] <theblue> regeya, No there was 2 versions of 3.1 and 3.11, each had a "Workgroups" version and one without.
[05:57] <xelados> I'm just curious in general. You know, with Fawn already in development, I figured maybe Edgy was already ironed out
[05:57] <bruenig> seww, do apt-cache show gaim | grep Version
[05:57] <theblue> regeya, And then there was 3.2.
[05:57] <regeya> I can't help it they were too blind to market it as a stable-ish desktop system
[05:57] <asc_> dimeo: Well, I'm also looking at a supercomputer that you can order cases of 144 processors each
[05:57] <xelados> I just want to make sure my apache/php/mysql stuff won't go kaput, or the effort I've put into Firefox, etc.
[05:57] <bulmer> xelados: what are you really after? just try it eh?
[05:57] <zak__> iminlalaland: ask away, someone will probably answer
[05:57] <asc_> dimeo: But the price is 'if you have to ask, you can't afford it'
[05:57] <aastaneh> Hi. I was wondering if anyone proficient at ACPI or PCMCIA in general can help me with this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2094744#post2094744
[05:57] <regeya> theblue: that could be...never saw anyone selling the non-workgroups 3.11 tho
[05:57] <xelados> Yeah pretty much. Don't want to screw things up. :)
[05:57] <dimeo> zak__: no idea how big sry
[05:58] <seww> bruenig http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3799/
[05:58] <bruenig> seww, you don't have to paste everything, it should have said the version though
[05:58] <zak__> dimeo: anything even completely inaccurate? 10mb? 20mb? 50mb? 100mb?
[05:58] <zeifer> Well, the last time I'd tried to dist-upgrade from Hoary to Dapper, I lost the system all at once.
[05:58] <bruenig> seww, you do not appear to have the latest version. Are you sure that after editing, you did sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:58] <regeya> oh, I see it at that link, theblue...chinese 3.1 LOL
[05:59] <seww> bruenig yes i did
[05:59] <asc_> maybe just go with core2 quad
[05:59] <iminlalaland> alright, I have the 6.06 disc, everytime i try to install, it opens the little menu thing and I choose the first option.  It then proceeds to list off what its doing but then stops at "Configuring your drives... OK" after that it sits for a moment and then goes to black screen with a blinking cursor - Nothing else
[05:59] <zeifer> Oh yeah... it wasn't Hoary to Dapper, it was Hoary to Breezy....
[05:59] <aastaneh> Anyone?
[06:00] <xelados> zeifer: you should take down that away message. >:O
[06:00] <regeya> I don't miss Windows 3.x
[06:00] <dimeo> zak__: how many megs you done so far?
[06:00] <n2diy> iminlalaland: how much ram is in the box?
[06:00] <gOLdenHaW1K3D> what is c64?
[06:00] <asc_> heh, unless it costs as much as four duos
[06:00] <zeifer> Better now?
[06:00] <dimeo> commodore 64?
[06:00] <motin_> Morning! Can I install multiple locales without necessarily using them as main languages? I need my webserver to be able to display time and dates in different locales.
[06:00] <gOLdenHaW1K3D> ok
[06:00] <n2diy> ! c64
[06:00] <iminlalaland> 356MB
[06:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about c64 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:00] <seww> bruenig http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3800/ <--i get that in the end of apt-get update
[06:01] <n2diy> iminlalaland: that's ok, hmmm?
[06:01] <n2diy> iminlalaland: a bad burn on the CD?
[06:01] <iminlalaland> It worked on my laptop
[06:01] <dimeo> zak__: i just got the file in a few min.. .7.3 mb for the ubuntu .deb file
[06:02] <zak__> hmm.. how long does tinned tuna last? i can't find a use by date here...
[06:02] <jacquesmerde> how do you fixate a cd in ubuntu?
[06:02] <xpoint> OT: and only this one time http://www.ide64.org/ just not a c64 anymore
[06:02] <zeifer> z
[06:02] <dimeo> if it makes you sick... it's expired =p
[06:02] <regeya> theblue: ah, I see...I don't remember non-workgroups 3.11 'coz, heh, well, hell, I don't know. :-P  I stopped using DOS/Windows exclusively after DOS + WfWg 3.11. :-P  I guess I blocked that from my memory.
[06:02] <bruenig> seww, ok do this: cd && wget http://repository.debuntu.org/GPG-Key-chantra.txt && sudo apt-key add GPG-Key-chantra.txt && rm GPG-Key-chantra.txt && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:02] <bruenig> that really should work
[06:02] <n2diy> iminlalaland: a dirty cd drive?
[06:02] <zeifer> zak__: Is that related to Ubuntu?
[06:02] <zeifer> LOL
[06:02] <regeya> I think I have *working* DeskMate floppies around here...don't remember what version tho
[06:02] <iminlalaland> hrm...
[06:03] <seww> bruenig ok then what?
[06:03] <regeya> zak__: quite a while, but keep in mind that it's fish.
[06:03] <dimeo> Parents are funny... my dad started his PC use with the VAX vms punchcards... he was using 3.1 up till like the late 90s
[06:03] <iminlalaland> the drive acts funny sometimes but is there anything I can do about it?
[06:03] <xelados> dimeo: I feel sorry for him.
[06:03] <d0dge-> What should I use for streaming the whole soundcard to Icecast server?
[06:03] <dimeo> no kidding!
[06:04] <WindyCN> Can someone tell me please whether Core 2 Duo based machines use the 64-bit or x86 version of Ubuntu?
[06:04] <zak__> zeifer: of course - the tuna's for tux
[06:04] <bruenig> seww, sudo apt-get install gaim
[06:04] <zeifer> zak__, Aha! I gotcha
[06:04] <dimeo> My mom at that time was scared to turn on or off  the laptop I bought her... cause she might break it... she started to read Macs for dummies
[06:04] <n2diy> iminlalaland: yes, you can buy a a disk to clean the read/write laser assy, but I don't know how well they work?
[06:04] <seww> bruenig oh now its working, thanks man
[06:05] <dimeo> these days you can't work *anywhere* without using PC's
[06:05] <zeifer> Does anybody have a working Surround Sound system on their linux installation? If so, how was it done? Everything I've tried so far has failed, and failed miserably, I might add.
[06:05] <bruenig> seww, see how easy that was :)
[06:05] <iminlalaland> well asuming its not the drive - it works well except for writing - what might it be or might I be able to do?
[06:05] <seww> bruenig haha yeah
[06:05] <bruenig> seww, I messed up about 3 times there. It really should have been really quick
[06:05] <macd> WindyCN, yes you can use the 64bit or the x86.
[06:05] <dimeo> WindyCN:  can use either.. but 32 bit is better IMHO
[06:05] <seww> bruenig who cares... everybody can have a bad day
[06:05] <bradp> i use a core 2 duo and im wondering myself
[06:06] <n2diy> iminlalaland: ? If you are trying to install, all it is doing is reading from the disk, no?
[06:06] <bruenig> seww, but at least this way, you will get the updated gaim each time
[06:06] <dimeo> macd: damn I owe you a beer
[06:06] <regeya> dimeo: if by that you mean Personal Computers...yep.  I use a Mac every day.  It's definitely a Personal Computer.
[06:06] <xelados> Are there any easy solutions to getting wine on a 64-bit install of (X)ubuntu?
[06:06] <seww> bruenig true
[06:06] <macd> xelados, hackishy not so simple
[06:06] <iminlalaland> yes, of course
[06:06] <xelados> What would it require?
[06:07] <iminlalaland> so assuming the drive isn't the problem, what might I be able to do?
[06:07] <xelados> I'd rather not install a 32-bit of Linux transparently under the 64-bit one
[06:07] <macd> xelados, http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit   is your best resource.
[06:07] <xelados> macd: alright, thanks.
[06:07] <n2diy> iminlalaland: is this the same drive you burnt the disk on?!?!
[06:07] <Desp_> hi all
[06:07] <iminlalaland> A friend burnt it for me...
[06:08] <zeifer> Hmm... nobody is using surround sound on Ubuntu, eh?
[06:08] <dimeo> regeya: macs sure had their difficult years there for a bit... late 90s... PPC sales were falling, then the Imacs and ipods hit
[06:08] <Desp_> how can i install xchat please ? Iam using xchat Genome and I need other xchat program
[06:08] <macd> zeifer, sure on intel ich8.
[06:08] <n2diy> iminlalaland: ok, so we can't rule out the drive as a problem, I'd try cleaning or replacing it.
[06:08] <dimeo> or beating it with a baseball bat
[06:09] <dimeo> then replacing it
[06:09] <iminlalaland> lol
[06:09] <xelados> macd: Do you recommend upgrading to edgy before I try installing wine, or is dapper recent enough?
[06:09] <dimeo> anyone ever seen office space?  classic film
[06:09] <n2diy> baseball bat?? put it down, shoot it.
[06:09] <zak__> regeya: not long enough :( i don't think it was rotten - it just tasted like the can :s
[06:09] <macd> xelados, dapper is a-ok.
[06:09] <xelados> macd: Alright.
[06:10] <n2diy> xelados: stay with dapper.
[06:10] <dimeo> if you go into shock in the next hour.. it was probably too old..
[06:10] <xelados> n2diy: How long should I stick with it?
[06:10] <xelados> Should I look for announcements on Ubuntuforums?
[06:10] <iminlalaland> so thats my only option?  Clean the drive?
[06:10] <TheLance> can someone quickly tell me how to fix a start up issue i'm having?
[06:10] <dimeo> but for now.... the tuna was just developing 'character'
[06:10] <n2diy> xelados: as long as you can, it will be supported for nearly five more years.
[06:11] <TheLance> after i see the boot status screen
[06:11] <TheLance> i get this http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1615052046133300ms0.jpg
[06:11] <TheLance> and ubuntu does nothing
[06:11] <TheLance> it gets stuck there
[06:11] <regeya> dimeo: I curse the masses for allowing Steve to think people wanted cheap disposable pretty-plastic Macs.  But I'd definitely rather use a Mac these days.  Never thought I'd say that. :->
[06:11] <xelados> Why not upgrade? Upgrading from hoary to breezy and then to dapper was great.
[06:11] <zeifer> TheLance, how long do you wait for something to happen?
[06:11] <TheLance> like 10 minutes
[06:11] <TheLance> i mean it does nothing
[06:11] <n2diy> xelados:  how many people are asking Dapper questions here, compared to Edgy questions?
[06:12] <xelados> I haven't checked yet.
[06:12] <xelados> :P
[06:12] <macd> n2diy, I dont think that has any weight.
[06:12] <dimeo> regeya: the minimalist, pretty jubejube colors did the trick... sales improved
[06:12] <macd> I think people are so excited about a new release ;)
[06:12] <TheLance> i'm screwed
[06:12] <zeifer> TheLance, My machine used to do that. But it was just taking its dear sweet time to respond. Also, a splash screen doesn't allow you to see what's going on underneath.
[06:12] <regeya> dimeo: yeah...but y'ought to tear apart a first-gen imac.  or a first-gen emac, more fun.
[06:12] <regeya> nothing like a computer you have to discharge the crt on just to pull the hard drive
[06:12] <TheLance> so i should just wait?
[06:12] <TheLance> and not do anything?
[06:13] <TheLance> or type anything?
[06:13] <macd> TheLance, you should wait upto about 30 minutes
[06:13] <xcess> Hi, Can anyone tell me how view the port of a running process in linux?
[06:13] <TheLance> damn
[06:13] <TheLance> thats a long as time
[06:13] <n2diy> macd: it has enough weight to keep me a happy camper with Dapper.
[06:13] <TheLance> is there a way i can fix it?
[06:13] <macd> xcess, "netstat -an"
[06:13] <dimeo> I had planned to turn a classic into a fishtank.. boy that was open pc surgery
[06:13] <zeifer> TheLance, How long have you been running your installation?
[06:13] <macd> wait what PID specifically xcess ?
[06:13] <TheLance> about 4 months now
[06:13] <iminlalaland> well thanks for you helpish :) Trying one more time
[06:13] <dimeo> just sat around for 10 years  though
[06:13] <TheLance> no issues till today
[06:14] <dimeo> fishless
[06:14] <zeifer> What did you do last before it started this behavior?
[06:14] <macd> n2diy, yes my main linux workstation is dapper, so I agree with you, but I also have a edgy and a fesity one
[06:14] <TheLance> not much
[06:14] <TheLance> used xchat
[06:14] <zeifer> Did you install anything?
[06:14] <TheLance> i did that earlier
[06:14] <TheLance> nope
[06:14] <dimeo> macd: hows fiesty lookin so far?
[06:14] <zeifer> Change any files?
[06:14] <TheLance> nope
[06:14] <xcess> macd, I just want to see the port on which application is running.
[06:14] <TheLance> just a regular shut down
[06:14] <zeifer> Let anybody else on the system?
[06:15] <TheLance> i'm not sure
[06:15] <TheLance> i left the computer on
[06:15] <dimeo> I've heard theres some pretty sexy changes coming up in april
[06:15] <macd> dimeo, its fine so far, I just started playing with kde4 on it...
[06:15] <TheLance> when i came home
[06:15] <TheLance> i saw this
[06:15] <TheLance> i'm assuming my younger sister did something
[06:15] <xpoint> try 'netstat -natpu'
[06:15] <TheLance> or did an improper shutdown
[06:15] <n2diy> macd: fine buisness, I'm currently on my test box, but I won't be playing with Edgy until I learn how to reliably back up my production box, on to this one.
[06:15] <TheLance> so i'm assuming i can't fix this?
[06:16] <dimeo> n2diy:  use dd for backup to image the HD?
[06:16] <mister_roboto> xcess: if you know the process id, you can get all open file descriptors, including listening sockets and so on, using lsof
[06:16] <macd> xcess, do you know the port of the process?
[06:16] <TheLance> i'm running edgy eft if it makes a difference
[06:16] <macd> port OR the process?
[06:16] <macd> lsof, fuser, netstat can all aide in this
[06:16] <zeifer> TheLance, I'm running Edgy as well.
[06:16] <zeifer> On both of my comps.
[06:17] <TheLance> yeah i figured
[06:17] <TheLance> yeah ubuntu is my main os
[06:17] <zeifer> My desktop system is finicky like that.
[06:17] <TheLance> there isn't another os on the machine
[06:17] <zeifer> Same as my desktop model.
[06:17] <n2diy> dimeo: Yes, I'm exploring my options, haven't tried dd yet, and just today, I found a reference to ddrescue, which looks interesting.
[06:17] <TheLance> so i just basicly have to wait?
[06:17] <TheLance> or just a fresh install
[06:17] <xcess> macd, thats what I would like to know. Anyhow netstat -antp|grep app solved my purpose. thanks a lot
[06:17] <SoundGuy29> any reason why "sudo apt=get install phpmyadmin" can't find package ?
[06:18] <dimeo> n2diy: can't go wrong with doing a MBR backup:   sudo dd if=/dev/hda of=/home/username/backups/hda.boot.mbr bs=512 count=1
[06:18] <zeifer> Interestingly enough, Edgy is running better on my dual-booting laptop than on my single OS desktop!
[06:18] <zeifer> You can try a fresh install if you have no fear of losing anything vital.
[06:18] <TheLance> well thats the problem
[06:18] <n2diy> SoundGuy29: apt-get, not apt=get
[06:18] <TheLance> i have a lot of vital things on it
[06:18] <dimeo> If things mess up, you can boot with Knoppix, mount the partition containing /root (hda1 in this example) and put back the MBR with the command:
[06:18] <dimeo>  dd if=/mnt/hda3/home/username/backups/hda.boot.mbr of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1
[06:18] <TheLance> i can go purchase another HD
[06:19] <SoundGuy29> yeah typo in typing into mirc
[06:19] <TheLance> but i would like to resolve this before i do that
[06:19] <TheLance> or attempt to
[06:19] <zeifer> TheLance, How comfortable with the terminal are you at this point?
[06:19] <TheLance> i'm still very noobish
[06:19] <n2diy> dimeo: but that doesn't cover the stuff I have in other directories, so I have to apt-get all that stuff again, no?
[06:19] <TheLance> but i'm willing to do whatever it takes to fix it
[06:19] <TheLance> yep i just rebooted hte machine
[06:19] <SoundGuy29> "sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin" - gives E: Couldn't find package phpmyadmin
[06:19] <TheLance> and its still like that
[06:19] <dimeo> rsync is good for backups of files and data:  it's incremental so it only transfers new changes... kinda cool
[06:19] <macd> n2diy, something I started doing a long time ago, mounting /home to an nfs server ;)
[06:20] <TheLance> i'm just gonna play the waiting game now
[06:20] <dimeo> for sure backup home directory
[06:20] <zeifer> TheLance, can you select the "recovery mode" kernel and see what happens on that one?
[06:20] <dwid> goldenhawk1k3d: i cant see the second hd now
[06:20] <macd> so I can install, upgrade, etc reimage my workstations and still have everything at my fingertips.
[06:20] <TheLance> i don't see that option under grub
[06:20] <TheLance> or do you mean that on the CD?
[06:20] <n2diy> macd: no winders boxes running here. :)
[06:20] <TheLance> i popped the install CD in
[06:20] <TheLance> and i didn't see a recovery option
[06:21] <macd> n2diy, what does that have todo with /home and NFS ?
[06:21] <zeifer> TheLance, you can add the entry to Grub, I'm not sure on how to do that, but I do know it is possible.
[06:21] <dimeo> a fresh install of ubuntu and apt get (all your favourites) is not too bad to do for a recovery... as long as you've got your home directory backed up... that's irreplaceable
[06:21] <macd> NFS not NTFS in case thats what you were thinking ;)
[06:21] <seww> ok just updated GAIM and now i cannot connect, what do i do?
[06:21] <n2diy> macd: umm, isn't NFS a winder format?
[06:21] <TheLance> zeifer.. that sucks for me
[06:21] <macd> no NFS = network file system
[06:22] <zeifer> Does anybody know how to edit the grub entries to include the recovery kernel if it is apparently missing?
[06:22] <TheLance> i have no idea how to do it either
[06:22] <macd> zeifer, it should always be present, however I can tell you howto make a new entry.
[06:22] <xpoint> NTFS = Newer The Same Filesystem
[06:22] <dimeo> Partimage is a good option too.... must be run on an unmounted partition...or a live CD
[06:22] <xpoint> :-)
[06:22] <n2diy> macd: and it works in linux!?
[06:22] <TheLance> yeah its not present for me
[06:23] <TheLance> i can even take a pic to prove it
[06:23] <macd> n2diy, NFS works on virtualy any OS out there.
[06:23] <TheLance> and btw the screen isn't doing anything
[06:23] <dimeo> only MS could come up with something like NTFS...
[06:23] <zeifer> Do you have a LiveCD?
[06:23] <TheLance> the little thing just blinks
[06:23] <TheLance> yes i do
[06:24] <n2diy> macd: Really! Guess what, I'm a newb to networking, does it show?
[06:24] <zeifer> You can, theoretically, use the LiveCD to recover your files and maybe even fix your machine. It just depends on what was damaged last time the system was shut down. You could also be able to access your system log to see what's up.
[06:25] <macd> zeifer, to make a kernel recovery mode, just change the kernel linx in grub from "ro quiet single" to "ro single"
[06:25] <TheLance> well i don't know whats wrong
[06:25] <sess> I have an amd turion 64 laptop which Im going to be using primarily for Graphics design (2D and 3D), some web design, some psp development, and maybe a little gameplaying.  I was wondering if there is ANY benefit to installing x64 Ubuntu, or if I should stick with teh x86 version.  Im already aware of the much smaller apt tree (can't I just use apt-source to build the source of any app not precompiled though?) and maybe a few driver issues.
[06:25] <n2diy> macd: Actually, I'm not, last week, I set up VNC and NFS here, but I don't know what I'm doing with it, so I'm still a newb.
[06:25] <macd> sess, atm I would recommend 32bit.
[06:25] <TheLance> and the live cd
[06:25] <TheLance> won't even see the hd
[06:25] <high-freq> anyone here run the command  gem install postgres?
[06:25] <high-freq> for rubygem
[06:25] <macd> high-freq, do you get a 403 error?
[06:26] <high-freq> no i get a postgres error
[06:26] <dimeo> is the whole live CD phenomenon only in the 'nix world?  could it be that MS hasn't yet ripped off that innovative idea from developers?
[06:26] <high-freq> gem error at that
[06:26] <macd> high-freq, pastie the error.
[06:26] <sess> there are live windows cds
[06:26] <sess> they blow
[06:26] <high-freq> k thx...brb gonna paste it
[06:26] <asc_> sess: 32-bit works better.  64-bit is faster.  Or so I understand.
[06:26] <n2diy> dimeo: to late for MS, the phenom is in the public domain already.
[06:26] <dimeo> sess: not MS approved are they?
[06:26] <sess> dimeo: oh definately not :)
[06:27] <dimeo> exactly
[06:27] <dimeo> live CD's just blew me away, that you could run such a solid OS just in memory without an install.... it was like the first time I used a mouse... OMG I said
[06:28] <d0dge-> What should I use for streaming the sound card to Icecast?
[06:28] <xelados> Where can I find the wine source to download?
[06:28] <dimeo> sudo apt-get install wine
[06:28] <dimeo> i'm guessing
[06:28] <n2diy> dimeo: who, when and where was the point and click interface invented?
[06:28] <high-freq> macd: http://pastebin.com/873348
[06:29] <dimeo> xerox
[06:29] <dimeo> parc I think
[06:29] <high-freq> seems like gem error..but it installed fine
[06:29] <high-freq> manual install
[06:29] <dimeo> 1978?
[06:29] <macd> pastebin is SOOO slow
[06:29] <high-freq> ya ;(
[06:29] <macd> you should use pastie.caboo.se next time ;)
[06:29] <high-freq> never heard of that one...lol
[06:30] <macd> all the RoR people use it ;)
[06:30] <macd> ok now to your problem, I assume you have the latest build-essential metapackage installed?
[06:30] <high-freq> shouuld
[06:30] <n2diy> yep
[06:31] <dimeo> ppl thought it was mac.. and windows ripped it off apple, but apple stole it from xerox... and now MS wants to patent it and sue redhat ... it's a weird world
[06:31] <macd> high-freq, are you on dapper? i.e. what version of ruby and gems?
[06:32] <high-freq> build-essential is latest..and edgy and ruby1.9
[06:32] <slvmchn> dimeo: savage definitely can be a chore to play, and often times you can tell who's going to win a match within the first 10 minutes... but when the teams are even and you have a good commander, it rules
[06:32] <dimeo> slvmchn: I have to check it out... it sounds brilliant
[06:32] <high-freq> macd: had to manual install rubygem tho
[06:32] <n2diy> dimeo: nope, it is a just world, the truth is coming out, thanks to places like this.
[06:33] <macd> high-freg, as in ruby setup.rb ?
[06:33] <high-freq> rubygems-0.9.1
[06:33] <macd> k
[06:33] <slvmchn> it's a solid concept that is executed with a couple of bugs, but savage 2 at least will have huge potential, and there were some developers from savage 1 that split off to make a game similar to it
[06:33] <macd> give me a sec on my edgy box to try install the postgres gem
[06:33] <high-freq> macd: yes  sudo ruby1.9 setup.rb
[06:33] <dimeo> n2diy: I'm quite excited at the future of the open source movement.. it's decentralized, autonomous... it's just not going to simply go away
[06:34] <TheLance> zeifer this is what i see under grub boot selection
[06:34] <TheLance> http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/1107/1615087019573300sv0.jpg
[06:34] <TheLance> no recovery
[06:34] <n2diy> dimeo: ditto
[06:34] <dimeo> however.. what made ubuntu kick ass. was the money that the founder had invested and put out awesome regular updates
[06:35] <gpd> the memory in my new system is failing in memtest - there are no settings in the bios that could cause this - correct?  I just RMA :(
[06:35] <dimeo> so .. if he dries up.. will ubuntu be mature enough and with enough team members to continue?
[06:35] <WindyCN> Can someone please PM me and tell me whether a Core 2 Duo system should use the x86 or 64-bit version of Ubuntu DD. Thank you.
[06:35] <macd> WindyCN, we already told you it can use either.
[06:35] <TheLance> anyone here know how to fix this problem that i'm having? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=351454
[06:35] <n2diy> dimeo: He was a late comer to the game, but his investment is worthwhile.
[06:35] <dimeo> windycn... use 32 bit.
[06:36] <dimeo> late comer to linux or to ubuntu?
[06:36] <asc_> WindyCN: PM is a pain to use on here.
[06:36] <dimeo> I thought he made ubuntu happen
[06:36] <WindyCN> macd: ah i'm sorry i must have missed the message
[06:36] <n2diy> dimeo: Linux, I never heard of Ubuntu or Mark S. until six months ago.
[06:36] <rogueChsbrgr> windycn..depends on what you want
[06:36] <macd> I would use 32bit myself, 64bit has incompatibility issues not easily resolved.
[06:36] <WindyCN> dimeo: not a latecomer as such, just i recently changed laptops so i'm confused as to whether the 64-bit edition is for the AMD64 line only or what
[06:37] <rogueChsbrgr> should work on any 64 bit proc
[06:37] <n2diy> dimeo: Christ, I almost abbreviated Mark S. as MS!!!
[06:37] <WindyCN> hmm
[06:37] <WindyCN> so the 64-bit version has no improvements to performance and a bunch of compatibility issues, yes?
[06:38] <macd> it performs better, but its not worth the tradeoffs.
[06:38] <rogueChsbrgr> it gives a decent performance boost on my AMD
[06:38] <WindyCN> hmm
[06:38] <rogueChsbrgr> but, yes, compatibility issues
[06:38] <WindyCN> eh
[06:38] <WindyCN> guess i'll just stick with x86-64
[06:38] <WindyCN> err
[06:38] <WindyCN> i mean x86
[06:38] <WindyCN> ugh
[06:38] <zeifer> WindyCN, You seem to be long-winded in short bursts
[06:39] <kferdous> hmm anyone run ubuntu on their powerbook?
[06:39] <n2diy> ! enter
[06:39] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:39] <WindyCN> zeifer: it's a talent
[06:39] <WindyCN> i was AFK getting the lappie working
[06:39] <dimeo> u tell um ubotu
[06:39] <sess> damn, can't find my old edgy cd
[06:39] <dimeo> =P
[06:39] <sess> downloading a new copy of the iso
[06:40] <dimeo> sess... cost u 50c for another
[06:40] <sess> Ill skip the x64 install for now
[06:40] <zeifer> sess, have fun with that
[06:40] <n2diy> old, edgy?
[06:40] <TheLance> guys how do i recover an ubuntu install using recovery mode?
[06:40] <zeifer> I hope you're internet connection is speedy.
[06:40] <TheLance> well it is
[06:40] <sess> n2diy: well, I downloaded the iso right after edgy was "released"
[06:40] <TheLance> i have high speed
[06:40] <WindyCN> meh, thanks for the answers, i'm off.
[06:41] <n2diy> sess: so that makes my Dapper really, really old I guess?
[06:41] <sess> so old may not be the right term, but It feels right considering how many cds and dvd's I've burned in teh last two months
[06:41] <dimeo> heheh.. know what u mean sess
[06:41] <TheLance> well i booted into single user mode and i can do stuff in the terminal
[06:41] <sess> :)
[06:41] <dimeo>  I gotta start clearing out all my old burns
[06:41] <zeifer> TheLance, ok that's a start
[06:41] <TheLance> but i don't know what the commands are to recovoering it
[06:41] <dimeo> mandrake os
[06:41] <dimeo> wtf...
[06:41] <n2diy> sess: roger being in the coaster business. :)
[06:41] <dimeo> it's not even called that any more
[06:41] <TheLance> is there like a tutatorial anywhere?
[06:42] <macd> high-freq, its going so let me see if its going to fail or not.
[06:42] <Zilliot> I need codecs end decoder dvd for Videoplayer end Rhythmbox in Ubuntu?Were downloan?
[06:42] <mneptok> TheLance: define "recover." what do you need to do?
[06:42] <high-freq> k
[06:42] <dimeo> and knoppix ... 8 versions behind....
[06:42] <rogueChsbrgr> TheLance...why do you need to recover?
[06:42] <TheLance> well here let me show you
[06:42] <TheLance> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=351454
[06:42] <high-freq> i also tried the postgresql pckgs in repos but didn't work..so i took em out...and then manual install
[06:42] <n2diy> TheLance: yes, google for the "rute manual"
[06:42] <zeifer> rogueChsbrgr, his system hangs just after checking filesystems is complete
[06:42] <TheLance> thats the problem i'm having
[06:42] <high-freq> to 0.8.2 postgresql
[06:42] <BC> What's the command to install radeon drivers?
[06:43] <macd> high-freq, you are trying to install the RoR bindings for pgsql correct? not pgsql itself?
[06:43] <zeifer> BC: Have fun with that, it's all ATi and takes more than apt-get to manage.
[06:43] <high-freq> ya i guess i need the RoR bindings
[06:43] <TheLance> yeah
[06:43] <TheLance> ati website
[06:43] <TheLance> download the .deb
[06:43] <high-freq> pqsql was fine on install
[06:43] <dimeo> I I start to have enuf of these old burns lying around that work.. I should just grow my hair like a freak and walk around the local park handing them out to children ;)
[06:43] <macd> high-freq, as in your rails app needs to use a pgsql db?
[06:43] <TheLance> and just drag that into the terminal
[06:43] <high-freq> rubygems was fine on install
[06:43] <Zilliot> I need codecs end decoder dvd for Videoplayer end Rhythmbox in Ubuntu?Were downloan?
[06:43] <high-freq> ya
[06:43] <macd> k
[06:43] <n2diy> BC: sudo modprobe drivername
[06:43] <TheLance> it should install itself
[06:43] <zeifer> Actually... start off with Automatix, it will be a life saver!
[06:44] <tonyyarusso> !automatix | zeifer
[06:44] <ubotu> zeifer: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[06:44] <Logite> Yo guys, when I start up my comp and try the installer from a livecd
[06:44] <mneptok> TheLance: use <esc> at boot to edit the GRUB parameters and remove "splash" and "quiet" and see where you get stuck.
[06:44] <BC> Thanks guys
[06:44] <Logite> The screen turns black
[06:44] <Logite> Help?
[06:44] <dimeo> strongly discourage... pfft... they're just jelious
[06:44] <TheLance> hit esc
[06:44] <Logite> me?
[06:44] <TheLance> but then it takes me to this screen
[06:44] <TheLance> i cna
[06:44] <high-freq> macd: is there a package for RoR
[06:45] <zeifer> ubotu, I haven't had any problems with automatix2
[06:45] <TheLance> can't edit anything
[06:45] <dimeo> what?  ppl have installed codecs easily?
[06:45] <n2diy> tonyyrarusso, your sniping tonight, good job.
[06:45] <dimeo> gotta put a stop to that!
[06:45] <Logite> Yo guys, when I try to install ubuntu from the livecd
[06:45] <rogueChsbrgr> Logite: sounds like an X prob
[06:45] <macd> high-freq, the pgsql package that is a gem, is the ruby bindings for pgsql, so that in your databsase.yaml file you can say pgsql.
[06:45] <Logite> X?
[06:45] <asc_> Logite: try the alternate install CD, it doesn't have fancy graphics that can break
[06:45] <zeifer> TheLance, try using "su gedit (file)" to edit anything that disallows you to do so otherwise.
[06:45] <TheLance> http://img459.imageshack.us/img459/5747/1615087019573300kc6.jpg
[06:45] <Logite> X problem?
[06:45] <high-freq> aaah
[06:45] <rogueChsbrgr> X windows
[06:45] <TheLance> whats the file?
[06:46] <Logite> yeah, i've had windows on the hd
[06:46] <dimeo> macd... dude you need to switch to #hardcore-hacker
[06:46] <Logite> how do i get the problem away?
[06:46] <TheLance> i tried a dpkg earlier
[06:46] <high-freq> macd: bah gotta go pick up roomies friend...brb..won't take too long
[06:46] <n2diy> ! gksudo | zeifer
[06:46] <ubotu> zeifer: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application> 
[06:46] <TheLance> but that didn't do much
[06:46] <TheLance> oh ok
[06:46] <macd> high-freq, I'll be here.
[06:46] <TheLance> gksude
[06:46] <TheLance> gksudo
[06:46] <dimeo> pgsql waml. yaml. jaml
[06:46] <TheLance> lets try the dpkg
[06:46] <high-freq> macd: thx bud....i'll msg u when i get back
[06:46] <TheLance> see if that works
[06:46] <TheLance> nope
[06:47] <zeifer> n2diy, He's in a terminal only, he has no GUI
[06:47] <TheLance> it just told me bash
[06:47] <mneptok> TheLance: *what* dpkg?
[06:47] <macd> dimeo, nahh just been doing linux since 1.0 or so.
[06:47] <Logite> so if i had a windows install on the hd previously
[06:47] <dimeo> wow... respect
[06:47] <TheLance> the xorg.conf
[06:47] <Logite> what do i do to clear up the issue?
[06:47] <BC> Um...the driver listed on ATI's website is proprietary, isn't that uncompatable with 3d acceleration?
[06:47] <dimeo> what year was that ... take me down memory lane
[06:47] <TheLance> yeah i'm in terminal
[06:47] <xelados> ubotu: Thank you! I've been dying to figure out the command to run a GUI app as root.
[06:47] <kris_> anyone know why i can't get my identd working? i've tried all of the ident daemons on universe, and i know the port is open but its not returning an ident response
[06:47] <macd> BC, no, in fact it does indeed support 3d
[06:48] <TheLance> well problem is
[06:48] <TheLance> i
[06:48] <TheLance> i'm stuck guys
[06:48] <macd> but my opinions on binaryblobs in the kernel i.e. ati/nvidias closed source drivers, suck.
[06:48] <mneptok> TheLance: you should not be editing xorg.conf or anything else until you determine exactly where the boot process is failing.
[06:48] <dimeo> linux scared me until I read news about MS plans to put TCM into every PC
[06:48] <Logite> erm, guys
[06:48] <Depinder> hello - would anyone be able to help with my non-working wireless internet on my thinkpad t42?
[06:48] <n2diy> zeifer: if he is in a terminal, how can he run gedit?
[06:48] <TheLance> well how do i do that?
[06:48] <mneptok> TheLance: use <esc> at boot to edit the GRUB parameters and remove "splash" and "quiet" and see where you get stuck.
[06:48] <xelados> lol
[06:48] <TheLance> how do i edit the parameters?
[06:48] <Logite> If I had windows installed on the harddrive I'm installing ubuntu to
[06:48] <zeifer> I forgot that Gedit is a gui-based editor.
[06:49] <Logite> How do I clear it off so i can install ubuntu
[06:49] <zeifer> I've just used it so much.
[06:49] <macd> zeifer, vi will be your friend.
[06:49] <BC> macd: is it the fglrx driver? if so that voids out my entire purpose of downloading ATI drivers
[06:49] <macd> zeifer, but for a nice quick easy to use editor, nano/pico work well.
[06:49] <asc_> Logite: Having windows installed shouldn't cause any problems.  Just tell it to partition automatically when you get to that stage of the installation and it will overwrite it.
[06:49] <TheLance> man i'm such a noob at this stuff
[06:49] <dimeo> zeifer: IRC actions are a lost artform... how do I do it again?
[06:49] <TheLance> i didn't rung into issues like this before
[06:49] <mneptok>  /me
[06:49] <macd> BC, its not the same driver that ships with X11
[06:50] <asc_> Logite: I think what he said was 'X windows', which is the thing that draws pretty pictures under Links.
[06:50] <sivik> when running aptitude (apt-get) how do i tell what version of the program is in the repo
[06:50] <TheLance> ok im in the grub menu
[06:50] <asc_> *Linux
[06:50] <TheLance> and all i see is hit c for command
[06:50] <TheLance> and i see my three usual boots
[06:50] <BC> macd: I'm trying to run a XGL system and I was told the fglrx driver doesn't work with 3d acceleration which is why I am skeptical.
[06:50] <Logite> when i go to install ubuntu though
[06:50] <mneptok> sivik: aptitude show $packagename
[06:50] <Logite> my screen just goes black
[06:50] <Logite> after loading the linux kernel
[06:50] <mercurysquad> hey guys
[06:50] <TheLance> k
[06:50] <Logite> it shows the ubuntu thing with the bar
[06:50] <Logite> and after that it just goes blank
[06:51] <macd> BC, I think you should check with the people in #xgl
[06:51] <sivik> nice
[06:51] <asc_> Logite: That is probably unrelated to Microsoft Windows.
[06:51] <dimeo> macd:   so when did you convert to ubuntu? and what distro was your fav b4?
[06:51] <rogueChsbrgr> Logite: that's an X prob alright
[06:51] <Logite> someone told me it was..heh
[06:51] <mercurysquad> can someone quickly tell me which package is the one for the calendar that pops up when you click the clock ?
[06:51] <Logite> so how do i go about getting it fixed?
[06:51] <asc_> Logite: To me, it sounds broken.  Can you burn another install CD?
[06:52] <asc_> and verify the .iso while you're at it
[06:52] <Logite> i'm getting 2 different people telling me stuff
[06:52] <Logite> one says it's an x problem
[06:52] <illriginal> Does linux have an SFV checker? Or am I out of luck?
[06:52] <Logite> the other says it's the livecd
[06:52] <macd> dimeo, about a year or so ago, for commercial use, I still use suse enterprise, my fav distro is ubuntu now, previously Ive been a long time redhat and debian fan, but alas its time to move to a single more manageable platform
[06:52] <iMag> looking for assistance on setting up a shared internet connection (2 network cards, 1 connected to internet, other is connected to xbox360)
[06:52] <sivik> mneptok, thanks
[06:52] <dimeo> I played with Mepis for a year first
[06:52] <TheLance> i get an unregconized command mneptok
[06:52] <asc_> Logite: It could also be both, or neither
[06:52] <rogueChsbrgr> that could be too
[06:52] <macd> and debian based distros provide that with apt based package management
[06:52] <Logite> so if it IS an x problem
[06:52] <Logite> how do i go about fixing that
[06:52] <rogueChsbrgr> afk
[06:52] <Logite> i don't think it's the live cd
[06:52] <syko990> does ubuntu support NTFS access?
[06:53] <macd> iMag, what you want todo is setup NAT. the ubuntu forums have some great howtos.
[06:53] <anon_> not *really*
[06:53] <macd> syko990, yes and no.
[06:53] <dimeo> then waay back it was mandrake... god that was a mess.. i heard it was the *easier* to use distro
[06:53] <anon_> you can see the files
[06:53] <Logite> anybody: if it is an x problem, how do I fix it so i can install ubuntu?
[06:53] <mneptok> (read)
[06:53] <dimeo> probably fried my laptop.. thank god for extended warranties :-D
[06:53] <anon_> but can't write to them!
[06:53] <mneptok> (write)
[06:53] <macd> ubuntu supports read/writing to NTFS filesystems.
[06:54] <anon_> really?
[06:54] <macd> yes.
[06:54] <anon_> I thought it was RO
[06:54] <dimeo> yea... the apt-get changed everything for me
[06:54] <n2diy> dimeo: the first linux distro I every got to play with online, with a gui, was Mandrake 7.0
[06:54] <mneptok> macd: not in a safe way, sadly.
[06:54] <asc_> Logite: X problems are an interesting type of problems.  They're also a huge pain in the ass.
[06:54] <mneptok> macd: FUSE? *shudder*
[06:54] <syko990> macd,plz explain?
[06:54] <illriginal> Can anyone tell me if there's a program that checks SFV on MP3s?
[06:54] <macd> well, captive NTFS isnt safe either, but that doesnt stop plenty of people from using it
[06:54] <mneptok> illriginal: SFV?
[06:54] <Logite> asc_: what should I do then?
[06:54] <dimeo> whats all the fuss about zenwalk.. can't be all that compared to ubuntu...
[06:54] <asc_> Logite: if it's *just* an X problem, it should drop you to a command line... at least, that's when it did when it couldn't start X, for me, with Edgy.
[06:55] <illriginal> To know that it's authentic and good quality.
[06:55] <macd> syko990, at this time, I wouldnt recommend trying it.
[06:55] <syko990> ok
[06:55] <anon_> so, read-only for now
[06:55] <mneptok> illriginal: i have no idea what that even means. :)
[06:55] <illriginal> for windows it's called HKSFV
[06:55] <mneptok> illriginal: "authentic?"
[06:55] <illriginal> yes
[06:55] <Logite> asc_: well the first time I tried installing it said somethign about port 1, but then I took another harddrive and it's doing the same thing but without the port 1
[06:55] <mneptok> as opposed to .....
[06:55] <illriginal> a file that hasn't had it's meta file information changed.
[06:55] <Logite> asc_: It might be the cd then?
[06:56] <illriginal> its'*
[06:56] <mneptok> illriginal: editing ID3 tags is somehow bad?
[06:56] <illriginal> yes.
[06:56] <BC> Where do you get the ATI open source driver described on this page? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver#head-a0bf0ca17168200ea3dd810ae505419bdc7f2e6d
[06:56] <macd> syko990, what I would do it have your main windows partition ntfs, and then your storage area as vfat, then you can safely read/write b/t the the OS's
[06:56] <asc_> Logite: Installer problems are always hard to troubleshoot :\
[06:56] <illriginal> some people like to change the name of it to suit them.. takes away the authenticity of it.
[06:56] <Logite> I guess i'll just reburn it then
[06:56] <iMag> now, for another problem is not being able to get sound from my line in on my sound card. volume levels are maxed. line in works in windows so it isn't a problem with the sound card
[06:57] <macd> I dual boot a laptop, and have a vfat partition for firefox, etc so I can keep my bookmarks and whatnot synced b/t the 2 OS's
[06:57] <mneptok> illriginal: no offense, but that makes absolutely no sense to me.
[06:57] <xelados> illriginal: Are you suggesting that people be unable to change a file's resource name and/or its metadata?
[06:57] <TheLance> k
[06:57] <TheLance> well i'm done with ubuntu
[06:57] <dimeo> IMHO eliminate all NTFS everywhere... would be much better for the world
[06:57] <illriginal> :\
[06:57] <TheLance> i'm gonna go ahead and install opensuse
[06:57] <syko990> but that's the reason( only vfat) i want to move from fc4 to ubuntu
[06:57] <asc_> Logite: Worth a try... I always recommend using the 'alternate' install CD because this sort of thing can't go wrong with it
[06:57] <macd> TheLance, dont expect instant gratification, wait a few days on the forums ;)
[06:58] <illriginal> some people will name the album that the song belongs to a different name
[06:58] <Onburiiku> Hey, I got a question
[06:58] <illriginal> so instead of song A belonging to album 1
[06:58] <TheLance> well i don't want to wait
[06:58] <TheLance> thats hte thing
[06:58] <dimeo> TheLance: why opensuse ?
[06:58] <n2diy> dimeo: OMG, you dropped the gauntlet on the darkside"
[06:58] <illriginal> it's song A belongin to album B
[06:58] <Onburiiku> I'm running Ubuntu via VMWare. Is that going to cause a problem with alot of things?
[06:58] <n2diy> darkside!
[06:58] <TheLance> i'm getting tired of all edgy's problem
[06:58] <mneptok> illriginal: that's why Amazon and ID3 tag editors exist
[06:58] <elijah> hi, how can i install an application in ubuntu?
[06:58] <macd> TheLance, have fun with opensuse, its also a great distro, bvut its support community doenst compare with ubuntu.
[06:58] <Onburiiku> Like Wine, or my speakers not working?
[06:58] <macd> TheLance, what do you expect, EDGY!
[06:58] <xelados> illriginal: Mistakes happen. Most people fix their mistakes if they find out that they were wrong.
[06:58] <dimeo> n2diy: bring it on...
[06:58] <macd> is leading EDGE!
[06:58] <TheLance> well its actually pretty prety good
[06:58] <TheLance> til today
[06:59] <anon_> Onburiiku: that's a VMWare question, not an ubuntu one
[06:59] <illriginal> thus is why i need a sfv checker
[06:59] <illriginal> because it does that for me.
[06:59] <TheLance> i just used it because it was simple
[06:59] <n2diy> dimeo: :) lets rock!
[06:59] <TheLance> what i'm dealing with now isn't simple
[06:59] <Onburiiku> k, thanks anon
[06:59] <forsaken> hey does anybody know how to get ubuntu to read avi/mpg/mp3?
[06:59] <bigcx2> TheLance: what was your problem?
[06:59] <TheLance> this is like windows xp crap
[06:59] <TheLance> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=351454
[06:59] <Logite> asc_: what's diff between the alt and the reg?
[06:59] <TheLance> that was my problem
[06:59] <anon_> illriginal: try searching synaptic for mp3 tag
[06:59] <macd> !restricted
[06:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:59] <TheLance> at this point
[06:59] <anon_> or IDE or whatever the tags are called
[06:59] <BC> How do you install the driver listed on this guide? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver#head-a0bf0ca17168200ea3dd810ae505419bdc7f2e6d This only shows what to do once you install the driver, but says nothing about how to ACTUALLY install the driver, no?
[06:59] <xelados> I'm of the opinion that the user should be able to change anything about any file on their computer. After all, it's _their_ computer.
[06:59] <elijah> anon_
[06:59] <TheLance> i think a clean install is the only way to fix it
[07:00] <dimeo> TheLance: there is a certain amount of PC crap... non OS  specific.. just the nature of playing with geek toys
[07:00] <illriginal> thanx anon_
[07:00] <dante_> wow, im new using linux, and i just love it
[07:00] <mneptok> illriginal: it seems SFV is nothing more than a checksum
[07:00] <TheLance> well its great dante
[07:00] <dimeo> dante_: welcome to the rest of your life
[07:00] <macd> BC, that link tells you exactly howto install the driver.
[07:00] <asc_> Logite: the regular CD is a 'livecd' - it runs the operating system from the disk, and you can use that to install it.  the alternate CD uses a text-mode installer, similar to windows
[07:00] <asc_> although slightly less ugly
[07:00] <dante_> cool
[07:00] <TheLance> but i stopped using windows because of all this stupid boot screen stuff
[07:00] <bigcx2> TheLance: have you tried booting into recovery mode or perhaps trying a different kernel?
[07:00] <Logite> asc_: windows xp?
[07:00] <mneptok> illriginal: just install EasyTag and edit the tags of mps to suit you
[07:00] <BC> macd: It's only telling me what to configure after the driver is installed, no?
[07:00] <TheLance> my windows install kept lcoking up in the boot screen
[07:00] <illriginal> yes it looks at the song... and says "hey, this song isn't what it really is... would like me to find and replace the information with the right one?"
[07:00] <dante_> yeah, and that annoying blue screen of death
[07:01] <illriginal> lol
[07:01] <TheLance> i tried single usermode
[07:01] <Logite> asc_: also, how hard is it to install with the alt?
[07:01] <TheLance> but i don't know what i'm doing
[07:01] <TheLance> i don't hav ea recovery mode
[07:01] <dimeo> Logite: pretty painless...
[07:01] <Flannel> Logite: real easy.  Just textmode graphics instead of fancy stuff
[07:01] <TheLance> its not under the grub boot list
[07:01] <macd> BC,  no its telling you howto install it as well
[07:01] <asc_> Logite: Never installed XP.  Similar to 2000 for sure, which ought to be pretty similar to XP.
[07:01] <Logite> Where do I find the alt?
[07:01] <mneptok> TheLance: have you stopped to consider the fact that 2 OSes failing to reliably boot *might* mean faulty hardware?
[07:01] <bigcx2> everyone has a recovery mode in an ubuntu system (unless you removed it)
[07:01] <Onburiiku> Okay, I give up.
[07:01] <dimeo> Logite: the alt was handy for putting on a pII with only 256mb
[07:01] <dante_> 2000=xp
[07:01] <Flannel> Logite: same place you downloaded the desktop CD
[07:01] <TheLance> cant be
[07:01] <dante_> both are equally NT
[07:01] <Logite> I see the desktop one at: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download#currentrelease
[07:01] <Onburiiku> I'm going to try and actually install Ubuntu again
[07:01] <TheLance> i installed mac os on this
[07:01] <bigcx2> plus if windows was screwing up at boot time
[07:01] <macd> BC, the opensource radeon drive WILL NOT run XGL.
[07:02] <Onburiiku> for the 3rd time
[07:02] <TheLance> worked fine
[07:02] <n2diy> TheLance: you installed windows after you installled linux?
[07:02] <bigcx2> you might have bad hardware
[07:02] <TheLance> nope
[07:02] <TheLance> before
[07:02] <bigcx2> lol someone already wrote that
[07:02] <illriginal> HKSFV <- for windows does that for me without me editing anything... it does that for me by itself... nevermind ill google around, sorry for the misunderstanding.
[07:02] <asc_> Logite: the partitions are the hard part if you haven't used linux before; telling it to partition automatically is probably a good idea.  Pretty much everything else is easy to work out.
[07:02] <TheLance> linux solved a lot of issues for a while
[07:02] <dante_> maybe windows was the first OS of almost anyone witha computer
[07:02] <Flannel> Logite: you might need to go to "more install options", depending on which version you're installing
[07:02] <Logite> asc_: I don't really want partitions
[07:02] <TheLance> so i been using it for like 6 months now
[07:02] <Onburiiku> You know that Ubunut thing you can download and run in windows, then you're supposed to be able to boot ubuntu?
[07:02] <TheLance> specifically ubuntu
[07:02] <Onburiiku> That doesn nothing
[07:02] <dimeo> bigcx2: whoever writes slowest buys the next round of beer
[07:02] <Onburiiku> just like everything else I've tried
[07:03] <Flannel> Logite: Partitions are a good thing ;)  You'll probably want to reinstall with partitions in a few months when you get your bearings.  Or at least, with a separate home partition
[07:03] <TheLance> i even installed macos on it at time
[07:03] <Onburiiku> I think it must by my BIOS
[07:03] <bigcx2> lol ok
[07:03] <TheLance> i might just go that tommorow
[07:03] <dante_> mcos sucks BIG TIME
[07:03] <macd> http://goodbye-microsoft.com ;)
[07:03] <n2diy> TheLance: specifically Ubuntu? What else are you playing with on the HD?
[07:03] <TheLance> its exactly like ubuntu
[07:03] <Logite> Flannel: Why would I need partitions? For windows?
[07:03] <TheLance> nothing
[07:03] <asc_> Logite: It's hard to have an operating system without at least one.  Select automatic, and you don't have to worry about it.
[07:03] <TheLance> everytime i do an install
[07:03] <TheLance> its a fresh reformat
[07:03] <dante_> hm.... theres one thing i want to know.. whats the meaning of the name "ubuntu"?
[07:03] <dimeo> macd: sweet linki
[07:03] <dimeo> link
[07:03] <bigcx2> TheLance: if you notice, there is 908 people in this chat room...try getting that kind of support from opensuse
[07:03] <TheLance> its means
[07:03] <asc_> Logite: The C drive under windows is a partition.  If you have only the C drive, you have one partition.
[07:03] <TheLance> beautiful
[07:04] <Flannel> Logite: no, so when/if/whatever you reinstall (or do a fresh install instead of 'upgrading', or whatever), you reinstall around your home partition, so all your personal stuff stays, and you don't have to worry about copying/backing up/etc
[07:04] <TheLance> well the thing is
[07:04] <asc_> Logite: If you have, say, C and D, you have two partitions
[07:04] <dante_> really?
[07:04] <dante_> cool
[07:04] <TheLance> i've been having little issues wiht it
[07:04] <n2diy> ! automatix | asc_
[07:04] <ubotu> asc_: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:04] <macd> dimeo, yes, yes it is. ubuntu has the same thing as well.
[07:04] <TheLance> it was  chore trying to get 1440X900 screen resololution
[07:04] <Flannel> Logite: You reinstall without reformatting /home, just mounting it, and basically, it takes most of the pain out of reinstalling.
[07:04] <Logite> asc_: I have an idea of what partitions are, but why would I need them?
[07:04] <asc_> n2diy: I'm talking about automatic partitioning in the installer, not automatix
[07:05] <TheLance> well heres what i'll do
[07:05] <Flannel> Logite: Partitions in linux aren't like windows.  Think of if you could have a separate partition for "My Documents"
[07:05] <TheLance> i'm gonna go get a new HD
[07:05] <Onburiiku> I'll bbs, gonna try and install Ubuntu again
[07:05] <TheLance> recover all my files
[07:05] <asc_> Logite: To have a file system, you need a partition.  To have files, you need a file system.
[07:05] <n2diy> asc_, ok sorry.
[07:05] <TheLance> and reinstall an os
[07:05] <dimeo> macd: ubuntu has a microsoft killer web link?
[07:05] <TheLance> i don't know which one
[07:05] <dimeo> what.. like.. kiss my ass bill gates dot org?
[07:05] <bigcx2> why don't you try backing up what you need
[07:05] <Logite> asc_: Ah, guess it's a bit diff then windows eh
[07:05] <bigcx2> and then reinstalling the os
[07:05] <TheLance> how do i do that?
[07:05] <bigcx2> without buying the new hardware
[07:05] <bigcx2> i dunno
[07:05] <bigcx2> cd's
[07:05] <Vema> netstat -lt   reports open ports 2208, 63047, 5900, 44273  anyone know what these are?
[07:05] <bigcx2> whatever you want
[07:05] <TheLance> how?
[07:05] <macd> dimeo, no just the installation method, there is a windows installer for ubuntu now.
[07:05] <nixbox> is there a way to view the contents of an initrd image, like which modules are there?
[07:05] <TheLance> without a working os
[07:05] <bigcx2> command line tools
[07:06] <bigcx2> in recovery mode
[07:06] <po0f> Vema: grep NUM /etc/services
[07:06] <TheLance> well thats the problem
[07:06] <bigcx2> at the boot screen
[07:06] <bigcx2> hit esc
[07:06] <TheLance> i'm kinda noob at command lines
[07:06] <dimeo> macd: gotcha.. himm mebbie I look into buying that url I mentioned
[07:06] <n2diy> Vema:  where did you get the reports from?
[07:06] <TheLance> i have no idea what i'm doing when it comes to that
[07:06] <TheLance> thats why i used ubuntu for a reason
[07:06] <TheLance> to learn it
[07:06] <TheLance> it didn't do a very good job obviously
[07:06] <dimeo> can't find the server at www.kissmyassbillgates.org   yup it's available
[07:06] <bigcx2> well...you're obviously on irc somehow
[07:06] <TheLance> yeah
[07:07] <starkruzr> so guys.  how do you install Ubuntu on a machine with no CD ROM drive, running Red Hat Enterprise 4?
[07:07] <TheLance> installing xhcat
[07:07] <TheLance> ony my windows laptop
[07:07] <Vema> n2diy, from : netstat -lt
[07:07] <Flannel> !install | starkruzr
[07:07] <ubotu> starkruzr: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[07:07] <bigcx2> so look up what you need to learn to backup your data from the command line
[07:07] <po0f> Vema: Ok, they just look like regular network connections.
[07:07] <bigcx2> and voila
[07:07] <bigcx2> learning is occuring
[07:07] <asc_> Logite: to get to the alternate install CD... uh, are you going to use 6.06 or 6.10?
[07:07] <Vema> po0f, i cant find anything grepping services
[07:07] <TheLance> well i've tried that today
[07:07] <Logite> I don't know, what's the main diff
[07:07] <TheLance> google is a good tool
[07:07] <SoundGuy29> questoin: in redhat i'd use chkconfig to stop a service from running by default. how do i do it in ubuntu ?
[07:07] <bigcx2> indeed it is
[07:07] <TheLance> but not much pops up for ubuntu
[07:08] <asc_> Logite: 6.10 is newer.  Some people also find it's less stable.
[07:08] <Logite> I'm just wanting to switch over to ubuntu cause windows is a pain op system
[07:08] <bigcx2> :/ i don't know about that
[07:08] <n2diy> Vema:  ok, go to www.grc.com, and run there "sheilds up" program, they will scan your ports, an tell you if your have any vulnerablityes.
[07:08] <sanddrag> anyone know how long it takes to update from 6.06 to 6.10 once the download is done?
[07:08] <Logite> What are the advantages aof being new? Is it less compatible?
[07:08] <coach_z> what size HD do i need to install ubuntu?
[07:08] <Quarupt> I am trying to build stepmania from source while running the configure script I get this? Error: 'Characters/default' is missing.
[07:08] <Quarupt> ooops Not that
[07:08] <macd> coach_z, a 1.2gb would work fine ;P
[07:08] <asc_> Logite: Hum, faster boot time... newer kernel, more recent versions of software
[07:08] <coach_z> sweet
[07:08] <Logite> 6.10 then
[07:09] <Quarupt> I am trying to build stepmania from source while running the configure script I get this? configure: error: No OpenGL library could be found
[07:09] <coach_z> thanks madcd
[07:09] <asc_> righto
[07:09] <dimeo> coach_z older system?
[07:09] <n2diy> Logite: linux isn't new, it is based on one of the oldest operating systems known.
[07:09] <coach_z> new system, reallllly  old HD
[07:09] <asc_> under 6.10, click north america->united states and pick a random server
[07:09] <SoundGuy29> anyone ? in redhat i'd use chkconfig to stop a service from running by default. how do i do it in ubuntu ?
[07:09] <Quarupt> How can I get a an "OpenGL Library? Do I need to install a package?
[07:09] <asc_> or use your continent of choice
[07:09] <Vema> n2diy, Ok, i've got 2 other ubuntu machines and they just report normal ports like 22, 21, 80 etc. I'm just a bit paranoid
[07:09] <TheLance> damn it
[07:09] <asc_> Logite: belay that order
[07:09] <TheLance>  i don't wnat to spend the time
[07:09] <sanddrag> it's taking forever to update to 6.10
[07:09] <TheLance> installing everything
[07:09] <asc_> Logite: they've changed the download screen thing
[07:09] <TheLance> and making it be the way i had it all over again
[07:09] <macd> SoundGuy29, you want a console based way of a GUI?
[07:10] <macd> or a GUI*
[07:10] <SoundGuy29> console
[07:10] <SoundGuy29> i'm using server
[07:10] <TheLance> it took me forever to get the edgy eft orginal artwork back on it
[07:10] <SoundGuy29> 6.06
[07:10] <dimeo> ubuntu with xfce runs quite nice on a p2, with 256mb and 1.5gb HD
[07:10] <TheLance> not ot mention i have a bunch of term papers on it
[07:10] <n2diy> Vema:  understood, and follow my previos  instructions,:  ok, go to www.grc.com, and run there "sheilds up" program, they will scan your ports, an tell you if your have any vulnerablityes.
[07:10] <macd> SoundGuy29, then just remove the service from /etc/init.d/
[07:10] <asc_> Logite: okay.  continent->region->random server, then click 'other installation options'
[07:10] <SoundGuy29> well, i'd like it to sat in init.d i
[07:10] <dimeo> mmm or isit a p3.. can't be sure
[07:10] <SoundGuy29> in case i want to run in manyually
[07:10] <Quarupted> Hello can anyone help me????
[07:10] <Quarupted> I am trying to build stepmania from source while running the configure script I get this? configure: error: No OpenGL library could be found
[07:10] <Vema> n2diy, I am, thanks
[07:11] <asc_> Logite: it'll take you to a page that looks a bit like this: http://ftp.wayne.edu/linux_distributions/ubuntu/edgy/
[07:11] <macd> SoundGuy29, then remove the symlinke in /etc/rc1.d/ rc2 rc3 rc4 rc5
[07:11] <sanddrag> seems like I could download and burn the iso and do a clean install of 6.10 in the amount of time it is taking to update
[07:11] <SoundGuy29> isn't there a more elegant way than removing links ?
[07:11] <asc_> Logite: then scroll down to the alternate install CD and download it
[07:11] <macd> SoundGuy29, ehh not sure, Im old school, I still make them by hand ;)
[07:12] <TheLance> well alright how does this sound?
[07:12] <TheLance> i get a new HD
[07:12] <SoundGuy29> yeah. well something must be used instead of chkconfig in ubuntu
[07:12] <TheLance> install ubuntu on that
[07:12] <dimeo> hey another canadjun!
[07:12] <dimeo> hey orkid
[07:12] <tritohc> how can i setup a widescreen resolution
[07:12] <TheLance> then use that HD to recover all the stuff on i have on my current hd
[07:12] <Madpilot> orkid, dimeo, #ubuntu-ca for more Canadian  Ubuntu-flavoured goodness
[07:12] <orkid> hey dimeo
[07:12] <TheLance> well you have to go edit your xorg.conf tritohc
[07:12] <dimeo> orkid: you must be out west.. it's past bedtime here
[07:12] <Logite> asc_: what if i have a 64 bit processor
[07:13] <n2diy> ! twinview | tritohc
[07:13] <ubotu> tritohc: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[07:13] <orkid> no, in EST dimeo
[07:13] <rogueChsbrgr__> tritohc: xorg.conf
[07:13] <zeifer> CST here
[07:13] <asc_> Logite: is it x86 architecture?
[07:13] <TheLance> edit that
[07:13] <tritohc> ubotu: that will be my next question
[07:13] <TheLance> and inject the resolution you want
[07:13] <dimeo> hehehe.. ure like me.. gonna be a ruf day at werk tomarra
[07:13] <tritohc> rogueChsbrgr__, TheLance: i'm working on that
[07:13] <Logite> AMD Athlon 64 3500+
[07:13] <Logite> You tell me :P
[07:13] <rogueChsbrgr__> just edit the default resolutions in there
[07:13] <TheLance> for example 1440x900
[07:13] <tritohc> TheLance: yes, 1600x1050
[07:13] <TheLance> sudo gedit directory of xorg.conf
[07:14] <TheLance> bam edit it
[07:14] <TheLance> save it
[07:14] <asc_> Hey y'all can AMD64 run 32 bit Ubuntu?
[07:14] <TheLance> and ctrl alt delete
[07:14] <tritohc> TheLance: done, done, done
[07:14] <orkid> asc_: yes
[07:14] <mneptok> asc_: yes.
[07:14] <Logite> You can, but i was wondering
[07:14] <asc_> thanks
[07:14] <Logite> If yo ucan run it under 64
[07:14] <dimeo> mneptok: nice people everywhere.... must be canadians
[07:14] <TheLance> or you can jsut do a sudo dpkg-reconfigre
[07:14] <mneptok> dimeo: + ,eh?
[07:14] <asc_> Logite: As I understand it, the difference between 32 and 64 bit ubuntu on a 64 bit processor is that 32-bit is a bit slower, but better supported and has more software.
[07:15] <n2diy> Canuks!?
[07:15] <Logite> Oh
[07:15] <Logite> asc_: well I guess i'll stick with the 32 bit then
[07:15] <kitche> asc_: yes sicne x86_64 is just x86 with 64bit extensions
[07:15] <macd> asc_, and you understand correctly ;)
[07:15] <mneptok> n2diy: i'm a Murkin living in Canuckia
[07:15] <asc_> ^^
[07:15] <dimeo> little mosque on the prairie!
[07:15] <orkid> i still have trouble getting in-browser video streaming to work in 32bit.
[07:15] <dimeo> takes a canuk to put that on the air
[07:16] <sess> crap, seems the edgy kernel on teh live cd won't boot on my laptop
[07:16] <tritohc> no one has a helpful link on the widescreen resolution front?
[07:16] <n2diy> mneptok: ? my sister lives in Halifax,NS, what do you folks call your dollar now?
[07:16] <dimeo> good show... gonna piss off rednecks across the globe
[07:16] <TheLance> tritohc
[07:16] <dimeo> =p
[07:16] <macd> tritohc, just edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add the resolution.
[07:16] <tritohc> i did that.
[07:16] <macd> and?
[07:16] <mneptok> tritohc: reconfiguring the xorg package doesn't pop tho cork?
[07:16] <tritohc> nothing.
[07:16] <sanddrag> so, does anyone know how long it takes to upgrade to 6.10 from 6.06?  Or, at what point roughly in the upgrade the ubuntu docs get upgraded (I saw it doing that).
[07:16] <TheLance> google "widescreen resolution" "ubuntu"
[07:17] <mneptok> *the
[07:17] <zeifer> Hopefully restart.
[07:17] <tritohc> TheLance: did that
[07:17] <Logite> asc_: So I'm at this list here: http://ftp.ucsb.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/ubuntu/edgy/
[07:17] <TheLance> you should get a nice tutatorial
[07:17] <zeifer> Restart X that is.
[07:17] <macd> tritohc, did you restart X after?
[07:17] <Vema> n2diy, Thanks gonna do the scan without my router plugged in too.
[07:17] <zeifer> Thank you for reiterating macd. ;)
[07:17] <macd> yeah, all good ;)
[07:17] <tritohc> how can i tell my current resolution
[07:17] <macd> sometimes Im watching another screen while Im typing
[07:18] <macd> tritohc, click on desktop resolution within the system menu.
[07:18] <zeifer> I know the feeling. I do that quite frequently myself.
[07:18] <dimeo> xkill... one of my favourite discoveries of the last 6 months
[07:18] <n2diy> Hmm, Vema is going to scan her ports with her router disconnected? Ok.
[07:18] <asc_> Logite: Okay, bit different than the page I was looking at.  You want http://ftp.ucsb.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/ubuntu/edgy/ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso or http://ftp.ucsb.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/ubuntu/edgy/ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso.torrent (if you want to be nice to the server)
[07:18] <sess> damn, I can boot dapper live, but not edgy, what doyou think this means as far as edgy having any xXXXX support?
[07:18] <Quarupted> Can anyone tell me the name of the opengl devel package please???
[07:19] <sess> stupid question, please disregard
[07:19] <dimeo> the problem is.. I'm in staff meetings that go on and on.. .I start to daydream about xkill... that little skull and bones
[07:19] <dimeo> if only it was that easy
[07:19] <Logite> okay
[07:19] <TheLance> k
[07:19] <TheLance> how do i install ubuntu from a terminal?
[07:19] <Logite> asc_: i'm downloading it, once i'm done and mount it
[07:19] <TheLance> i just put in a live cd
[07:19] <Logite> asc_: what do i do from there?
[07:19] <TheLance> and found a hd
[07:19] <TheLance> i can install it on
[07:19] <seww> how do you minimize xchat to the panel?
[07:20] <zak__> sudo isn't doing anything [the command isn't executed, no error is given, it just does nothing] 
[07:20] <Flannel> TheLance: er, what?  You cant.  LiveCD has to go through the installer on the desktop
[07:20] <zak__> any suggestions?
[07:20] <TheLance> yeah
[07:20] <TheLance> but it locked up on me
[07:20] <TheLance> the last time i tried it
[07:20] <dimeo> man.. this channel is like the worst ER episode ever
[07:20] <kitche> zak__: what command?
[07:20] <TheLance> edgy eft is kinda weird
[07:20] <macd> Quarupted, libgl1-mesa-dev
[07:20] <dimeo> they're just bleeding all over the place
[07:20] <TheLance> nothing like the old dapper install cd
[07:20] <asc_> Logite: Should be able to install on a drive with windows on it.
[07:20] <Flannel> TheLance: there's no other way on the liveCD.  You need the alternate CD to install without the GUI
[07:20] <TheLance> damn it
[07:20] <TheLance> more owrk for me
[07:21] <TheLance> and more waiting
[07:21] <zak__> kitche: anything - "sudo ls" doesn't even work, and i can't run gui root stuff, like when i run synaptic, it asks for the password, then does nothing
[07:21] <n2diy> Flannel: I think he is trying boot options?
[07:21] <orkid> what's on port 32768? it's listening and open
[07:21] <asc_> Logite: put it in the computer, boot it up, and when it brings up a menu, press enter and it'll start the install process.
[07:21] <seww> how do you minimize xchat to the panel?
[07:21] <TheLance> installing from GUI is the most horrible idead ever
[07:21] <po0f> TheLance: It has always worked for me.
[07:21] <TheLance> i
[07:21] <sess> orkid: ironic, thats the highest small int
[07:21] <kitche> zak_: are you putting in your user password? when it asks for a password?
[07:22] <TheLance> its just really laggy for me
[07:22] <pavs> how do I remove chroot. I configured it to install 32bit google earth. It didnt work so good now I want to get rid of it. how do i do it?
[07:22] <TheLance> and would lock up at times
[07:22] <TheLance> last time i tried ot install ubuntu
[07:22] <kitche> pavs: jsut type exit and it will exit chroot
[07:22] <TheLance> i had install dapper
[07:22] <kitche> pavs: chroot is part of Linux the command that is
[07:22] <po0f> sess: 65535, _unsigned_ short for port numbers.
[07:22] <TheLance> then upgraded to edgy
[07:22] <zak__> kitche: yeah... from the command line it doesn't even ask me... it'll print info when i give it no arguments, but other than that, nothing
[07:22] <Logite> asc_: It shouldn't be very hard for a windows user to do this right? I mean, I've reformatted plenty of times, built my own box, etc.
[07:22] <high-freq> macd: aiighty i'm back
[07:23] <TheLance> wait can i reinstall edgy from the recovery mode?
[07:23] <macd> high-freq, its still building, so I assume its not going ot fail here
[07:23] <orkid> sess: yes it is
[07:23] <zak__> kitche: and "sudo -u foo ls" picks up that foo isn't a real user
[07:23] <TheLance> i have a feeling that would not delete al lmy important files
[07:23] <dimeo> logite: youre gonna be a ubuntu hacker in no time
[07:23] <macd> however I am on ruby1.8
[07:23] <high-freq> hmm
[07:23] <sess> its was merely an observation po0f
[07:23] <TheLance> and install new system files
[07:23] <pavs> no I have chroot  as a folder right next to 'home' and 'media'
[07:23] <high-freq> macd: well inform me on what u did...cuz its not working for me...hehe
[07:23] <kitche> pavs: then just delete the folder
[07:23] <macd> I had to downgrade from 1.9 a while back to get rmagick to build
[07:23] <Flannel> zak__: `sudo -k` then try again.  That'll remove the cached password and prompt you again
[07:23] <orkid> so what is 32768, anyone know?
[07:23] <pavs> doesnt have a delet option when I right click it
[07:23] <Quarupted> macd, you sure?
[07:23] <asc_> Logite: It shouldn't be a problem, no.  As I recall, you can pretty much select the default options for everything.
[07:23] <Logite> dimeo: 1337 h4x or regular? ;)
[07:23] <macd> Quarupted, absolutly.
[07:24] <Commander-Crowe> How do I stop iptables? and then save it?
[07:24] <dimeo> orkid: mostly used by the CIA for homeland security
[07:24] <po0f> sess: Ok, I was just pointing out that ports are unsigned shorts, a negative port would be kinda weird.
[07:24] <zak__> Flannel: well, it asks for the password now, but still doesn't do anything
[07:24] <orkid> dimeo: uhuh
[07:24] <kitche> pavs: sudo rm -r chroot try that in a terminal
[07:24] <dimeo> logite: you've built your own box.. so you've earned the 3l33t3 campers badge
[07:25] <sess> po0f: very true, I was just passing the time till my servers edgy upgrade completed ;)
[07:25] <macd> uograde one and let the webcache handle the rest ;)
[07:25] <sess> but it looks like getting edgy on this laptop is gonna be hard.  Im hoping that was a bad image I burned, so Im now burning it to a dvd.
[07:25] <Logite> dimeo: Right oonnnn
[07:25] <zak__> "sudo -l" tells me i can't execute sudo :s
[07:25] <asc_> Logite: The only problem I had the first time was partitions, and the automatic option for those works just fine.  People do recommend making seperate partitions for a variety of things, but maybe trying that the first time around is tempting fate.
[07:25] <Commander-Crowe> anyone?
[07:26] <Quarupted> macd, well I installed it and the configure script still says I need OpenGL Library ?
[07:26] <high-freq> hmm i had 1.8 and 1.9 installed....so i'm takin out ruby 1.8
[07:26] <zak__> damnit, i think i know what the problem is... unfortunately i'll have to reboot and use knoppix or something to fix it :s
[07:26] <macd> Quarupted, you might need to specify to your configure script the absolute path ot the librarys.
[07:26] <macd> high-freq, no take out 1.9!
[07:26] <macd> 1.8 works
[07:26] <high-freq> 1.9
[07:26] <high-freq> oh ok
[07:27] <high-freq> i'll readd the 1.8 then ;)
[07:27] <dimeo> logite:  I've often done a fat32 partition for access from both windows and ubuntu... to store downloads and stuff..
[07:27] <Quarupted> macd, no I don't think so if the correct libs are there it will work that wasnt the right package
[07:27] <dimeo> cause the windows NTFS partition is read only from linux and from windows I think the ext3 is read only too
[07:27] <macd> Quarupted, if the configure script doesnt know where the lbis are (common for debian based distros to move stuff) you must specify them.
[07:28] <asc_> Logite: there's also a newish semi-stable thing that can use NTFS partitions as read-write
[07:28] <Quarupted> macd this is a smart script if the libs are there it will find them that was the wrong package
[07:28] <dimeo> hard drives are so huge these days.. 4 partitions is not a bad idea
[07:29] <macd> Quarupted, then use apt-cache search to find the package you think it is.
[07:29] <Quarupted> macd Ya I tried that over 400 results
[07:29] <xelados> I asked for help at #winehq and got redirected here.. when I try to compile wine, it gives me an error regarding OpenGL and Direct3D, saying it won't be compiled with either supported.
[07:29] <TheLance> guys whats the command to upgrade ot edgy?
[07:29] <xelados> Someone said I need the 32-bit OpenGL libraries.
[07:29] <TheLance> or install it from a terminal?
[07:29] <xelados> Where can I get'em?
[07:29] <mindstate> hey all, whats would be a better alternative to Azureus for bittorrent, it's a bit to bulky for my liking
[07:30] <Logite> So what do partitions for ubuntu mean?
[07:30] <Logite> I don't quite understand
[07:30] <macd> Quarupted, the only way that would not be the package is if you were using the binary ati/nvidia drivers.
[07:30] <xelados> mindstate: bittornado's pretty good
[07:30] <mindstate> xelados, does it support DHT?
[07:30] <dimeo> xelados: sounds to me like they're giving you the run around...
[07:30] <xelados> What's DHT?
[07:30] <pavs> sudo apt-get install dchroot debootstrap
[07:30] <pavs> what does it mean
[07:31] <ajax__> !xgl
[07:31] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:31] <Quarupted> macd, maybe because I am using a binary Nvidia driver?
[07:31] <xelados> dimeo: What am I supposed to do? Sift through synaptic?
[07:31] <ajax__> !beryl
[07:31] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[07:31] <high-freq> ok its installin the ruby1.8 packages that i selected
[07:32] <mindstate> xelados, distributed hash table gives you better chance of faster d/l speed
[07:32] <dimeo> xelados:  tried searching the ubuntuforums.org?
[07:32] <mindstate> xelados, but ill try bittornado
[07:32] <xelados> dimeo: Not yet
[07:32] <pavs> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575 I used this instruction and chroot is a folder and I cant even delete it
[07:32] <macd> Quarupted, then nvidia-glx-dev is what you want.
[07:32] <Logite> asc_: mind letting me in on what exactly partitions mean for linux?
[07:32] <elijah> hey how will i install an application in ubuntu???
[07:33] <dimeo> elijah: sudo apt-get install yourfavouriteprogramname
[07:33] <kamui> it WAS the edgy cd I burned!  Another damn coaster.  when I burned to a dvd, it worked perfectly
[07:33] <Flannel> elijah: Synaptic Package Manager
[07:33] <dimeo> what kinda program you want?
[07:33] <asc_> Logite: When you go to put files on the drive, you have to make a partition table.  This is the same in both windows and Linux.
[07:33] <dimeo> we got warez
[07:33] <elijah> whre's that
[07:33] <dimeo> tons o warez
[07:33] <dimeo> system
[07:34] <elijah> i'll try thanks
[07:34] <Flannel> elijah: System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager, I believe.
[07:34] <Logite> asc_: files as in any file? like for instance a downloaded exe?
[07:34] <asc_> Logite: My perception is that you're thinking of 'partitions' as in extra drive letters on windows, created by splitting one drive into two sections?
[07:34] <dimeo> Any certain kind of software that you're wanting ?
[07:34] <Logite> asc_: dead on
[07:34] <asc_> Logite: correct.
[07:34] <asc_> Logite: If, on windows, you don't split your drive, you still have one partition - the C drive.
[07:35] <Logite> asc_: So when I install ubuntu do I only have one "C" drive like windows for instance?
[07:35] <elijah> dimeo, it's vlc
[07:35] <Logite> asc_: that i can download things to, etc.
[07:35] <pavs> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575 I used this instruction and chroot is a folder and I cant even delete it
[07:35] <asc_> Logite: If you select the automatic partitioning, yes, that's what will happen.
[07:35] <TheLance> well i just found out
[07:36] <xerophyte> does anybody know any good webbased music (songs) management software ?
[07:36] <TheLance> the hd i had lying around
[07:36] <high-freq> macd: ok this one now ;(  /usr/bin/env: ruby: No such file or directory
[07:36] <dimeo> asc_: I recall having the same confusion.. windows *seemed* easier cause it had c:/ drive and the disk was a:/
[07:36] <Logite> asc_: What are the other options? I'm probably not going to try it for the first run around, but how do they work
[07:36] <TheLance> no longer works
[07:36] <TheLance> so i'm screwed
[07:36] <asc_> Logite: It will actually make two partitions - the second one is for "swap", which is the same as a windows page file.  You don't need to worry about that one.
[07:36] <kamui> hey, ReiserFS or Ext3?
[07:36] <elijah> dimeo: i've opened the synaptic manager
[07:36] <elijah> then what's next?
[07:36] <macd> high-freq, prolly need to use ruby1.8
[07:36] <Logite> asc_: what is a windows page file?
[07:36] <macd> I assume you typed ruby instead of ruby1.8
[07:36] <asc_> Logite: It uses part of the disk as extra RAM.
[07:36] <high-freq> it went thru..installed the 1.8 again and reran the ruby1.8 setup.rb
[07:36] <asc_> Logite: virtual memory
[07:36] <Logite> asc_: ah, okay.
[07:36] <dimeo> elijah: search for vlc
[07:36] <high-freq> went thru fine...rdoc and ri was fine
[07:36] <macd> ohh, and it gave you that problem, ahhh
[07:37] <elijah> ok
[07:37] <macd> high-freq, let me think on that for a sec
[07:37] <high-freq> k
[07:37] <dimeo> or you can enter 'sudo apt-get install vlc" in the terminal
[07:37] <asc_> Logite: Explaining the other options requires some explanation of the linux file system, and I'm out of time.
[07:37] <Logite> asc_: Oh noes!
[07:37] <Logite> asc_: so, after i install linux, will i need any drivers or anything for my widescreen display, sound card, etc.?
[07:37] <Logite> asc_: And about programs, does it come with like a media player for mp3 playing, etc>?
[07:38] <dimeo> elijah: it will be added to your applications-->sound and video menu
[07:38] <asc_> Logite: The answer is 'maybe'.
[07:38] <Logite> asc_: Where do I acquire those if so
[07:38] <elijah> dimeo: but it cant find the vlc
[07:38] <seww> minimize xchat to tray, how?
[07:39] <FearMoth> Hi, I need to install grub to my mbr, so I can boot from a partition which has the contents of a linux install CD copied to it. do I need to make a /boot directory on that partition (/dev/hda2) ? what files will I need to create?
[07:39] <Flannel> !grub | FearMoth, first link
[07:39] <ubotu> FearMoth, first link: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:39] <dimeo> have you activated all repositories yet?
[07:39] <asc_> Logite: Erm, getting display-related things working can be a little difficult at times.  Where to get things depends greatly on your hardware, particularly your video card.  Ask people in here if your model works after I leave.
[07:40] <FearMoth> thanks Flannel
[07:40] <asc_> Logite: Well, everything works... some things are just difficult to get working.
[07:40] <Logite> well I have a 7800 gtx
[07:40] <Logite> i game, but i'm guessing with ubuntu you can't do much of that
[07:40] <asc_> Logite: NVidia's pretty well supported, and the release linux drivers
[07:40] <dimeo> http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing.html#enabling_extra_repositories
[07:40] <asc_> Logite: I've got to run
[07:41] <dimeo> Logite: think of this as your new hobby for bit, when making the transition
[07:41] <Logite> dimeo: Yeah, i'm tired of windows. I can't even get past the booting sequence lately
[07:42] <Logite> dimeo: I really like gaming, but I can shove it off for now
[07:42] <macd> high-freq, is that error when you ran ruby1.8 setup.rb ? (as root or sudo)
[07:42] <dimeo> keep a dual boot
[07:42] <Logite> dimeo: Would rather have a working PC first
[07:42] <high-freq> macd: that is when i run  gem install postgres
[07:42] <Logite> dimeo: How hard would that be to get set up the first run?
[07:42] <macd> ahhh
[07:42] <high-freq> macd: ruby1.8 setup.rb  as sudo is fine...goes thru fine
[07:42] <dimeo> not too hard.. take that free space and make a second partition
[07:43] <Logite> dimeo: could you walk me through it once I start installing?
[07:43] <dimeo> put ubuntu on it.. GRUB ( the boot loader) that's installed should detect your two os that are installed
[07:43] <Logite> dimeo: i'm using the alternate installer this time around, and I have a 300 gb harddrive so I don't really need to worry about space
[07:43] <macd> high-freq, Im not sure if this will help or not but try gem install postgres --include-dependencies
[07:43] <dimeo> can't ... gotta go to be actually =(
[07:43] <high-freq> k
[07:43] <dimeo> catch zzzzz
[07:43] <Logite> dimeo: wait for a few min
[07:43] <Logite> dimeo: just a few questions first
[07:43] <dimeo> yup
[07:44] <dimeo> is all of that 300gb in a ntfs partition?
[07:44] <high-freq> macd: ya same...its like gem aint workin...
[07:44] <macd> k
[07:44] <Logite> Yeah...
[07:44] <macd> try this
[07:44] <Logite> Is that a prob
[07:44] <macd> gem install postgres  --ruby=/usr/bin/ruby1.8 --include-dependencies
[07:45] <Logite> With the regular boot the screen would just go blank after it showing ubuntu then the loading bar
[07:45] <dimeo> well first off... have you backed up your important data on the C drive?
[07:45] <dimeo> that's the first thing
[07:45] <Logite> I'm trying the alternate install after i'm done downloading
[07:45] <Logite> Yeah, already backed up on another drive
[07:45] <dimeo> good
[07:45] <high-freq> /usr/bin/env: ruby: No such file or directory
[07:45] <high-freq> same
[07:45] <metres> Hi all, im trying to have FB_VESA set as module... in my vanilla 2.6.19... I can only set it to Y or N ... but it is set as (M)odule in 2.6.17-10...
[07:45] <high-freq> i took out 1.9 and put back the 1.8
[07:46] <macd> high-freq, well Im out of ideas :( have you tried asking in #rubyonrails ?
[07:46] <Logite> So do I still only need to pop in the ubuntu disk while starting up to install it?
[07:46] <high-freq> nope..not yet
[07:46] <macd> Im i there too, so Im instrested in the fix.
[07:46] <dimeo> b4 you install with the alternate version. download the qtparted iso and burn that bootdisk.. you wont regret
[07:46] <Onburiiku> Biig question for y'all
[07:46] <dimeo> it's like partition magic on a bootdisk
[07:46] <Onburiiku> I finally got my LiveCD working
[07:47] <dimeo> bootcd
[07:47] <Onburiiku> but it's a dapper CD
[07:47] <Logite> eh
[07:47] <Logite> How would I go about doing that
[07:47] <Onburiiku> Should I download and burn Edgy or stick with my old-ish dapper CD?
[07:47] <Logite> Do i burn it to a seperate cd
[07:47] <PORDO> anyone know how to specify how jabbin plays sound?
[07:47] <Logite> Or the same cd the boot of ubuntu is on
[07:47] <Onburiiku> Basically Dapper or Edgy?
[07:47] <metres> Onburiiku : stick with dapper... feisty is coming in two month...
[07:48] <dimeo> that way you can graphically view and play with the sizing of your partitions if you like *before* making actual changes
[07:48] <Logite> so just burn the qtparted iso onto another cd?
[07:48] <Logite> also, where can i get qtparted
[07:49] <Logite> sourceforge?
[07:49] <frogzoo> Onburiiku: it will take maybe 4 hrs total installing edgy from scratch, gnome is much faster & suspend works, worth it imo
[07:49] <dimeo> yea... cost you a 50c for the blank and its a good tool to have on hand
[07:49] <elijah> *dimeo: i really cant figure it out
[07:49] <Onburiiku> So, frogzoo, You're saying go with Edgy?
[07:50] <Onburiiku> Metress: What does Feisty have to do with Edgy vs Dapper?
[07:50] <dimeo> sry my mistake gparted
[07:50] <FearMoth> Flannel: is there anything specific on that grub howto page that shows how to install grub to boot from /dev/hda2? I don't have any device.map file
[07:50] <Logite> gparted? lol
[07:50] <frogzoo> Onburiiku: except that feisty is out in 2 months - you're somewhat in the middle now
[07:50] <cafuego_> frogzoo: 4 hours?
[07:50] <Logite> where do i download it?
[07:50] <frogzoo> cafuego_: sure
[07:50] <Logite> nevermind D:
[07:50] <Logite> i get the livecd for that right?
[07:50] <dimeo> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[07:51] <cafuego_> frogzoo: seems a bit long
[07:51] <dimeo> check out the screenshots
[07:51] <TheLance> hhmm
[07:51] <frogzoo> cafuego_: there's all the customisation you have to put back in place, codecs etc. etc.
[07:51] <dimeo> you can quickly boot it take a peek at your HD partitions
[07:51] <TheLance> i got fsck to check my hd
[07:51] <nalioth> Logite: you can install gparted on an Ubuntu livecd
[07:51] <TheLance> i forced a check on it
[07:51] <dimeo> true
[07:51] <cafuego_> frogzoo: backup /etc and keep ~, tends to be fine.
[07:52] <dimeo> the gparted cd boot quick tho
[07:52] <Logite> Okay I am burning the iso for gparted to a cd
[07:52] <dimeo> Logite: how come ure using the alternate ubuntu iso ?
[07:53] <mabus> what's the package that contains all the fonts in ubuntu?
[07:53] <dimeo> the regular didn't boot for you?
[07:53] <Logite> no
[07:53] <Onburiiku> So I should install dapper? What happens when Feisty comes out?
[07:53] <dimeo> himm
[07:53] <Logite> after the loading screen where it says ubuntu over it
[07:53] <javelin9999> anyone know how to get rythmbox working right out of the box on edgy?
[07:53] <Logite> it just goes to a black screen with a blinking cursor
[07:53] <dimeo> you try the safe mode?
[07:54] <Logite> not a mouse cursor
[07:54] <Logite> what safe mode?
[07:54] <Logite> ohhh
[07:54] <Logite> the one under it?
[07:54] <Logite> yeah
[07:54] <TheLance> well feisty will have one great feature
[07:54] <TheLance> no more it has a thing called defenderx
[07:54] <TheLance> so that means if you mess up your xorg.conf
[07:54] <TheLance> that just recovers it
[07:54] <Vuen> ah yes, the bulletproofx
[07:55] <TheLance> yeah
[07:55] <TheLance> whatever its named
[07:55] <TheLance> its nice
[07:55] <macd> there is also a transfer wizard to bring your files and whatnot from a windows install into linux.
[07:55] <TheLance> sweet
[07:55] <Onburiiku> Howabout I re-word my question.
[07:55] <TheLance> cant wait for it
[07:55] <dimeo> theres some boot options
[07:55] <TheLance> edgy has been pissing me off
[07:55] <dimeo> you might wanna try
[07:55] <TheLance> edgy got annoying real quick
[07:55] <Logite> i already have the alt burned
[07:55] <Logite> but okay
[07:56] <TheLance> but i will admit
[07:56] <macd> Onburiiku, dapper = ultra tested + stable Edgy = cutting edge, and pretty decent
[07:56] <Logite> let me know and i'll try it
[07:56] <TheLance> it looks nice though
[07:56] <Vuen> edgy is not cutting edge enough for me
[07:56] <macd> I would recommend dapper to anyone.
[07:56] <Vuen> i'm very much considering switching to gentoo
[07:56] <Onburiiku> lol
[07:56] <macd> Vuen, have fin with a 2 day install process ;)
[07:56] <TheLance> dapper is the better one yes
[07:56] <Onburiiku> looks like the hosue is split between dapper and edgy >.>
[07:56] <TheLance> but edgy looks better
[07:56] <Onburiiku> somewhat
[07:56] <Vuen> macd: i don't mind
[07:57] <Vuen> my computer burns a lot of cpu hours as it is
[07:57] <macd> Vuen, if you want leading edge, go for feisty.
[07:57] <Vuen> i'm doing particle accelerator simulations for my honours project... i regularly leave my computer on crunching numbers overnight
[07:57] <TheLance> i might just upgrade to feisty tommorow
[07:57] <TheLance> i'll download it right now
[07:57] <TheLance> so i can install it in the morning
[07:57] <Vuen> TheLance: i'm waiting for the featurefreeze
[07:57] <Vuen> i'll upgrade to feisty on the 8t
[07:57] <Vuen> 8th*
[07:57] <TheLance> why is that?
[07:57] <macd> Vuen, that is going to be a while
[07:57] <Onburiiku> Feisty is out?
[07:57] <Onburiiku> Or is it beta
[07:58] <TheLance> i have this problem going on with edgy right now
[07:58] <TheLance> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2094774#post2094774
[07:58] <Vuen> because on the 8th, the featureset is frozen. things stop changing and they start getting fixed
[07:58] <TheLance> and i'm sick of trying to figure it out
[07:58] <macd> Its not even beta yet Onburiiku
[07:58] <TheLance> so i'm just gonna move to feisty
[07:58] <Onburiiku> wow
[07:58] <Vuen> i switched to edgy when the beta release candidate came out (bout a week before beta opened), and i had no problems whatsoever
[07:58] <Vuen> it was completely flawless
[07:58] <Onburiiku> Well, I'm already downloading edgy on windows (Running VMWare ATM)
[07:58] <Onburiiku> And I'm used to edgy from my VMWare Ubuntu
[07:59] <Onburiiku> So I'll go with that
[07:59] <TheLance> where do i download feisty fawn?
[07:59] <Logite> so what am i downloading gparted for again?
[07:59] <Logite> to partiton my drives?
[07:59] <Vuen> TheLance: if you don't know where to download it, don't download it.
[07:59] <mneptok> hehehe
[07:59] <TheLance> nvmind
[07:59] <dimeo> boot parameters 'noapic' and 'nolapic'
[07:59] <TheLance> found out
[07:59] <dimeo> noapm
[08:00] <Vuen> TheLance: dude
[08:00] <Vuen> don't do it
[08:00] <slap_me> if i wanna uninstall ubuntu, and grub...how do i wipe out those partitions?
[08:00] <Vuen> it's not even beta stage yet
[08:00] <TheLance> why?
[08:00] <Vuen> it's barely alpha
[08:00] <Vuen> it's a horrible mess right now
[08:00] <Vuen> things will break
[08:00] <dimeo> i can't find the webpage about it.. but they're boot options for the liveCD that help with such problems sometimes
[08:00] <TheLance> well not unless i can get that issue i have to be fix
[08:00] <TheLance> i don't know what to do
[08:00] <zak__> could someone give me the output of "groups" for a normal user after a fresh ubuntu install? i screwed up all my groups, and i'm not sure i've put myself back in them all :)
[08:00] <dimeo> the other thing to try
[08:00] <Logite> do i try those all at once
[08:00] <Vuen> TheLance: well, you could revert to dapper. dapper is LTS after all
[08:01] <dimeo> is if the screen disappears like it's changing resolutions on you and it stays blank.. press control alt +
[08:01] <foco> hi
[08:01] <TheLance> well i personally thing downgrading is stupid
[08:01] <Vuen> TheLance: edgy is only four months newer than dapper. there isn't a whole lot different.
[08:01] <dimeo> you can change resolutions.... cycle them through until one works
[08:01] <TheLance> pretty much
[08:01] <macd> Vuen, except for the MAJOR kernel differences.
[08:01] <Vuen> TheLance: downgrading is stupider than not being able to even reach a login screen?
[08:01] <TheLance> edgy jsut looks cooler
[08:01] <dimeo> Logite: I wish i could find the webpage that's about the boot codes for you
[08:01] <macd> dimeo, man grub.
[08:02] <TheLance> well my options are
[08:02] <TheLance> getting a new hd
[08:02] <Logite> it isn't like my screen res is changing
[08:02] <TheLance> and installing edgy on that
[08:02] <Vuen> macd: yes, different kernel, xorg 7.1... all changes that are pretty transparent to an ordinary end-user.
[08:02] <TheLance> so i can recover all my important files
[08:02] <Logite> it's like i'm getting put into a command prompt but only 1 blinking thing in the top left
[08:02] <TheLance> or option 2
[08:02] <TheLance> do a reformat
[08:02] <TheLance> and a clean install
[08:02] <TheLance> lose everything
[08:02] <macd> Vuen, that was the whole object in edgy, to ramp up for feisty drastic front end changes.
[08:03] <TheLance> feisty looks like edgy at this point
[08:03] <Quarupted> macd, good lookin man, that was it now do ya know the package for SDL Devel?
[08:03] <TheLance> and edgy looks wonderful
[08:03] <slap_me> since i have 3 partitons righ tnow...my windows...swap..and ubuntu
[08:03] <macd> not to mention ubuntu picked up the CFQ kernel scheduler in edgy.
[08:03] <slap_me> if i install vista on the windows partition
[08:03] <TheLance> well technically 2
[08:03] <slap_me> will ubuntu and swap still be there?
[08:03] <TheLance> swap is needed for ubuntu
[08:03] <Vuen> macd: yes, i know that. that's exactly my point. he doesn't NEED edgy, he won't even notice the difference. edgy exists so that us powerusers could test-drive the new kernel and xorg to get ready for feisty. thats why they didn't even make cds in shipit. it's hardly even a real release.
[08:03] <macd> Quarupted, I can look.
[08:03] <TheLance> you can't run ubuntu without swap
[08:03] <Vuen> TheLance: yes you can
[08:03] <macd> TheLance, yeah you can.
[08:04] <cinnix> fonts question - what directory shall they go in?
[08:04] <TheLance> yeah but it wil lock up alot
[08:04] <Quarupted> macd, and maybe you can teach me how you search for them, I typed SDL into apt-cache and synaptic way to many results
[08:04] <TheLance> without that virtual memory
[08:04] <macd> TheLance, no it wont.
[08:04] <macd> you need more RAM!
[08:04] <Vuen> TheLance: it pages to the root partition
[08:04] <TheLance> then whats the point of having it?
[08:04] <dimeo> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=335347
[08:04] <Vuen> TheLance: much faster
[08:04] <ziro01> I'll find out
[08:04] <TheLance> see
[08:04] <dimeo> take a look at this guys problem.. see if it sounds like yours
[08:05] <Vuen> TheLance: swapping to a partition means the operating system has a dedicated chunk of space where it can scribble anywhere it wants. it doesn't have to deal with the filesystem at all.
[08:05] <Logite> it's telling me to select my keyboard layot
[08:05] <Logite> layout*
[08:05] <Vuen> TheLance: much faster that way.
[08:05] <TheLance> yeah that part i know
[08:05] <dimeo> he gets a blank screen after booting the live cd
[08:05] <dimeo> adding acpi=off to the boot options available on the CD install (ie press F6) I managed to boot to a useable desktop
[08:05] <Vuen> TheLance: well you can do without if you want. you can just make a file on your ordinary partition and loopmount it as swap
[08:05] <macd> Quarupted, SDL there are alot of hits, what are you trying to install that reguires it?
[08:06] <frogzoo> TheLance: some people do run without swap, not really recommended though
[08:06] <Logite> what's the diff between a regular install and an alternate install again?
[08:06] <seravitae> is there a reason that the generic kernel should (three times now) randomly "half-freeze" up?
[08:06] <seravitae> my keyboard doesnt do anything
[08:06] <Quarupted> macd, Stepmania its a game for my kid, the binary doesnt work so I am building it
[08:06] <macd> ahh, ok
[08:06] <dimeo> oh. yer already on the alternate CD ... text interface
[08:06] <TheLance> yeah well it makes more sense to run it with swap
[08:06] <seravitae> my mouse cursor moves, the screen updates, but clicking doesn't do anything.
[08:06] <TheLance> otherwise it'll slow down like a windows box
[08:06] <macd> libsdl1.2-dev   try that
[08:06] <Quarupted> macd here is what it said SDL 1.2.6 or greater is required to build StepMania; please
[08:06] <Quarupted> *** make sure that it is installed to continue the build process.
[08:06] <TheLance> thats what i like about linux the most
[08:06] <TheLance> it doesn't slow down
[08:06] <Vuen> TheLance: *sigh* that's not what makes windows slow
[08:07] <TheLance> it remains slow
[08:07] <seravitae> i'm about ready to ditch ubuntu.
[08:07] <Vuen> swap space has pretty much nothing to do with it.
[08:07] <TheLance> well the stupid virtual memory system it has
[08:07] <Onli|DLing_Edgy> Seravite: Why so?
[08:07] <macd> Quarupted, libsdl1.2-dev  ;)
[08:07] <TheLance> not to mention a stupid registry system
[08:07] <Onli|DLing_Edgy> Oh wait nevermind
[08:07] <dimeo> seravitae: reboot?
[08:07] <macd> were pushing ofr a linux registry.
[08:07] <Onli|DLing_Edgy> I've been... not here for a bit xD
[08:07] <macd>  /etc is a f'ing mass.
[08:08] <Vuen> macd: really? i'd take /etc over a registry any day
[08:08] <macd> my company has been working on an XML based linux registry, a single file for all of /etc
[08:08] <TheLance> yeah i know
[08:08] <Vuen> macd: i love /etc
[08:08] <seravitae> dimeo: i don't *want* to reboot every hour?
[08:08] <macd> its so inefficient.
[08:08] <seravitae> especially when i'm halfway through working?
[08:08] <dimeo> macd  wow sounds cutting edge
[08:08] <TheLance> no its not
[08:08] <Vuen> macd: true, but it doesn't need to be efficient
[08:08] <spike723_> hey can I get a snapshot of current?
[08:08] <dimeo> seravitae: sorry to hear
[08:08] <seravitae> dimeo: not my fault. :)
[08:08] <Vuen> macd: there's no real reason to make it efficient. we don't need to read config files terribly often.
[08:09] <macd> for large scale deployments, and configurations to be pushed along with images, well I wont go into prorietary details, but its light years of /etc.
[08:09] <sissy4use> art
[08:09] <Quarupted> macd, your good, how did you figure that out?
[08:09] <seravitae> -386 kernel has no smps, -generic kernel has smps but crashes. if i compile my own i get kernel panics and crap, even if using the default config.
[08:09] <Logite> what program for ubuntu lets me use AIM?
[08:09] <TheLance> gaim
[08:09] <TheLance> it comes wiht ubuntu
[08:09] <Vuen> macd: besides, there are lots of ways it can be made more efficient, such as linearizing /etc on the harddrive so that they lie in the order they are read when they are booted
[08:09] <macd> Vuen, its nothing todo with day to day operation.
[08:09] <Logite> is there skype for linux?
[08:09] <Vuen> macd: ah
[08:09] <TheLance> yes
[08:09] <Vuen> Logite: yep, apt-get skype
[08:09] <ardchoille42> !skype
[08:09] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[08:09] <Quarupted> macd, lol no it says liblua
[08:09] <macd> its todo with portability among distros, and ease of consolidated configuration and deployment.
[08:10] <TheLance> i like ubuntu the way it is when it works
[08:10] <TheLance> when it doesn't work it makes things really hard to fix
[08:10] <TheLance> that annoys me
[08:10] <macd> Quarupted, liblua50-dev
[08:10] <Logite> cool
[08:10] <Vuen> macd: i see. i'm much less interested in corporate deployment :)
[08:10] <TheLance> and etc isn't that bad
[08:10] <TheLance> still better then windows anyday
[08:10] <macd> Vuen, yes, but linux evangilists are ;)
[08:10] <macd> spelling?
[08:10] <Vuen> :)
[08:10] <macd> heh
[08:11] <macd> it would be nice to have linux in everyones home, but we all know a FREE OS cant make money that way ;)
[08:11] <ardchoille42> Someone was asking about a GUI to automate multiple checksum tasks. Well, I created a nice bash script and that is as close to GUI as I am willing to go: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=351499
[08:11] <Vuen> macd: the slashdot post on exchange compatibility today would lead me to believe otherwise
[08:11] <seravitae> is there like
[08:11] <macd> Vuen, that guy is a tool.
[08:11] <seravitae> some logger/debugging tool i can use
[08:11] <seravitae> through ssh or something
[08:12] <TheLance>       damn i can't even get apt-get to work as a command in a recovery mode
[08:12] <Vuen> macd: i know he is, but regardless, evolution does suck, as do most linux softwares that interface with exchange.
[08:12] <macd> we have been using exchange with evolution as an email client for years.
[08:12] <seravitae> so that next time my box crashes i can get an idea why, or see if i can remotely kill some apps to see what's causing it
[08:12] <macd> public folders are crazy.
[08:12] <Vuen> macd: yeah, but evolution kinda sucks
[08:12] <TheLance> so what good is recovery mode if any command i give it doesn't work?
[08:12] <TheLance> i tried aptitude
[08:12] <macd> theres always thunderbird.
[08:12] <TheLance> apt-get
[08:12] <TheLance> sudo
[08:12] <Vuen> macd: thunderbird doesn't have a calendar >.<
[08:12] <TheLance> gksudo
[08:13] <TheLance> well why do you need a calendar?
[08:13] <Vuen> ...
[08:13] <TheLance> you have one on gnome
[08:13] <macd> Vuen, who uses exchange shared calender anywho, peoplesoft FTW.
[08:13] <Vuen> ...
[08:13] <Quarupted> macd thx man, again
[08:13] <macd> Quarupted, just wait till its all doen to thank me ;P
[08:13] <Logite> i wonder if just buying a mac would be easier lol
[08:13] <Vuen> macd: that guy's company, that's who, and it's what has prevented him from switching to linux. that was my point all along
[08:13] <macd> Vuen, yeah alot of companies work harder than smarter ;)
[08:14] <xdude> how can I tell which version of ubunutu I am using? I pullout an old machine out of the dust
[08:14] <macd> Logite, go, go get a mac now!
[08:14] <Logite> lol
[08:14] <TheLance> xdude
[08:14] <macd> xdude, cat /etc/lsb-release
[08:14] <TheLance> go to about
[08:14] <Vuen> i know he was doing it backwards. he should have been migrating the servers away from exchange, and then switching the clients for linux later on
[08:14] <Logite> can i duelboot and use all the hardware i spent money on to play games on it?
[08:14] <Logite> didn't think so :<
[08:14] <Quarupted> macd, OGG Vorbis?
[08:14] <xdude> cat /etc/lsb-release
[08:14] <Logite> i want to see what the regular ubuntu installer looks like
[08:14] <macd> well, evolution works very well with exchange in the capacity we use it in, being a decent sized company as well.
[08:14] <TheLance> guys mind telling me what commands work for recovery mode?
[08:15] <Vuen> but most companies will not want to do that, even if it's the right direction to go.
[08:15] <Quarupted> macd configure: error: A working installation of Ogg Vorbis could not be found.  Vorbis
[08:15] <Quarupted> support is strongly recommended.
[08:15] <Logite> you pronounce ubuntu like (uboontoo) right?
[08:15] <TheLance> yes
[08:15] <macd> Quarupted, k
[08:15] <Vuen> Logite: you-boon-too
[08:15] <xdude> hmmm breezy
[08:15] <TheLance> its african for beautiful
[08:15] <dimeo> ?
[08:15] <macd> Quarupted, libogg-dev
[08:15] <Logite> and how do you pronounce linux
[08:15] <TheLance> well thats kinda outdated
[08:15] <dimeo> thought it was "sharing"
[08:15] <Logite> lie-nucks?
[08:15] <TheLance> linux
[08:15] <dimeo> rhymes with canucks
[08:15] <TheLance> lenex
[08:15] <Vuen> Logite: no, lih-nucks
[08:15] <Logite> ah, so i WAS right lol
[08:16] <macd> linus says lie-nux
[08:16] <Vuen> there's an audio file somewhere of torvalds saying it
[08:16] <dimeo> or lynn uks
[08:16] <TheLance> its linux
[08:16] <Vuen> macd: no he doesn't. he says lee-nux, and it's only because of his finnish accent
[08:16] <Logite> i think my ubuntu is installing by now
[08:16] <Vuen> it's lynn-uks
[08:16] <dimeo> or line ucks
[08:16] <Quarupted> macd, I installed that package but am getting the same error?
[08:16] <TheLance> linnucks
[08:16] <macd> in fact on Linus's site ha has a audio file of him saying it.
[08:16] <dimeo> I've heard both
[08:16] <Logite> the only diff thing about the alt installer is just that it's text base right? No loss in the actual os?
[08:16] <Vuen> lynn-uks
[08:16] <TheLance> whatever
[08:16] <xdude> no linus torvald doesnt like people to say lie - nux      he prefers lin like lint  nux
[08:16] <TheLance> o
[08:17] <dimeo> linus  plus ucks
[08:17] <tonyyarusso> Logite: Correct.  Actually, more options.
[08:17] <dimeo> line uks
[08:17] <TheLance> i'm donw with my computer
[08:17] <TheLance> i'm going to bed
[08:17] <Vuen> xdude: exactly. lynn-uks
[08:17] <TheLance> this issue is pissing me off
[08:17] <Logite> so it's lie-nucks then?
[08:17] <Quarupted> macd, is there maybe another package?
[08:17] <TheLance> i'm gonna go to bed before i start throwing shit out the window
[08:17] <xdude> cool Vuen has got it
[08:17] <TheLance> later
[08:17] <macd> Quarupted, libvorbis-dev
[08:17] <TheLance> all
[08:18] <dimeo> gnitealll must sleep here too.. it's been too much fun
[08:18] <Logite> don't gooo :O
[08:18] <Logite> lol
[08:18] <macd> http://www.jx90.com/download/torvalds-says-linux.mp3
[08:18] <xdude> nope lynn - uks
[08:18] <xdude> or you be insulting linus
[08:18] <Logite> well, hopefully the switch to ubuntu for me is a good one
[08:18] <Vuen> Logite: good luck :)
[08:19] <Quarupted> macd lol this is getting repetitive, I am sorry now it says: configure: error: A working installation of MAD could not be found, which is
[08:19] <Quarupted> required for MP3 support.
[08:19] <xdude> Hey I tried loading Suse 10.1 on this machine today,  it kinda pooped out.   so, back to ubuntu breezy
[08:19] <Quarupted> xdude, why Breezy?
[08:19] <macd> Quarupted,  libmad0-dev
[08:20] <Vuen> xdude: back to breezy? O.O
[08:20] <Vuen> xdude: isn't breezy almost at the end of its lifecycle?
[08:20] <xdude> I got the latest on my laptop and the other desktop,   Why?  just because I like to play around
[08:20] <xdude> Actually breezy runs great on this old machine
[08:20] <xdude> its an old asus p38-f...   500/750 mhz
[08:21] <Quarupted> macd, you are the man! the config script went all the way through, now I just do make and make install right?
[08:21] <macd> Quarupted, yeah, if that fails time to contact the developers of that software ;)
[08:21] <Vuen> Quarupted: make and sudo make install
[08:21] <xdude> but it be cooking with this breezy
[08:21] <drarem> how to do (un)tar something again
[08:21] <Logite> if i installed ubuntu on one pc
[08:21] <Logite> can i move it to a totally diff one and hook it up with no prob?
[08:21] <Quarupted> Vuen, man all that work and it broke in like 5 seconds after typing make :(
[08:21] <Vuen> xdude: mm. could always throw xubuntu dapper on there
[08:21] <Vuen> Quarupted: :(
[08:22] <macd> Quarupted, was there a debian package for it?
[08:22] <xdude> logite, sometimes it works,  you may have to change the xorg.conf settings
[08:22] <Logite> ehhh
[08:22] <Logite> what do i have to change about it
[08:22] <Quarupted> macd, I didnt find one in our repos, its called stepmania
[08:22] <Logite> and how hard would it be
[08:22] <kris_> how can i make my identd reply to the irc server instead of my router?
[08:22] <xdude> I got dapper on another drive.....
[08:23] <xdude> and the newest on another....   I just used a multiload kinda thing with the grub
[08:23] <xdude> This breezy is cooking I tell you
[08:23] <macd> Quarupted, try the linux binary now, I bet it works now that everything is installed for it ;)
[08:23] <macd> http://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/stepmania/StepMania-3.9a-linux.tar.gz
[08:23] <Vuen> !stepmania
[08:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stepmania - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:24] <Quarupted> macd, I tried and couldnt get it to untar right :( kept erroring :(
[08:24] <macd> ohh
[08:24] <xdude> heck I even got that windows thing on another drive.   oh sorry
[08:24] <macd> tar zxvf file.tar.gz
[08:24] <kiwinz_sucks> stepmania's easy
[08:24] <kiwinz_sucks> what do you need to know
[08:25] <rc-1> i want to cd into directroy FIGS (copy)/ but it says bash: syntax error near unexpected token `(' and when i put a \ before it it doesnt helo
[08:25] <Quarupted> kiwinz_sucks, well the binary wouldnt untar in the archive manager so I have been trying to build from source just got configure to run, but the make broke :(
[08:25] <rc-1> help*
[08:25] <kiwinz_sucks> it wouldn't untar?  that makes no sense at all
[08:26] <kiwinz_sucks> did you try it from bash?
[08:26] <Vuen> well i'm off to be
[08:26] <Vuen> d
[08:26] <Vuen> night all
[08:27] <Kud|> Is there a way to debug window managers? I tried installing XGL and now I can't even boot using XGL or Gnome, I get this error saying it took more than 10 seconds to log in. I have to boot in Gnome failproof now
[08:27] <Vuen> by the way, i love this channel at like 2 am. it's so calm and relaxed. this place is a real sweatshop midday :)
[08:27] <macd> that it is
[08:27] <Onli|DLing_Edgy> Vuen, I agree
[08:27] <nysosym> hi all :D
[08:27] <Vuen> Kud|: what kind of video card do you have?
[08:27] <Kud|> ATI 9600xt
[08:28] <Kud|> Vuen, fglrx drivers are installed and working
[08:28] <Vuen> Kud|: mm. yeah, i don't know, sorry
[08:28] <Vuen> :(
[08:28] <Quarupted> macd, GOT IT!
[08:28] <Vuen> i can't stay awake any longer, i'm off to bed
[08:28] <Vuen> night
[08:29] <Onli|DLing_Edgy> I'm going to bed too
[08:30] <Onli|DLing_Edgy> Goodnight everyone! Tommorow I'll probly be on Edgy. ;)
[08:31] <macd> Quarupted, great!
[08:31] <AmbientMstr> I'm having a really annoying problem with my panel. It won't show the windows in it, so I have to use alt-tab to go through them.
[08:32] <macd> AmbientMstr, do you use beryl
[08:32] <wireles> so ..can you guys help me get my wireless connection going?
[08:33] <AmbientMstr> Macd: Yes
[08:33] <macd> AmbientMstr, the gnome workspace panel will not show anything in beryl ;)
[08:33] <AmbientMstr> But I don't get why it would do that. It was showing before.
[08:33] <SynthesiX> Hello, i've installed breezy from cd now, if i want to upgrade to edgy, do i have upgrade to dapper first, or can i go straight to edgy? because in the update-manager app there's only an option to upgrade to dapper.
[08:33] <AmbientMstr> It was showing in Beryl before
[08:33] <macd> it has never showed anything for me, I just use alt+tab
[08:33] <AmbientMstr> Hrm
[08:33] <AmbientMstr> Well, I had a hunch
[08:33] <AmbientMstr> But I just don't understand that
[08:33] <AmbientMstr> Still new to using Beryl
[08:34] <AmbientMstr> I mean, the positives definitely outweigh some negs. But oh well. Time for hw
[08:34] <mitrovarr> hi, I'm trying to set up a xdmcp client/server system.  Anyone know how to start a xdmcp session via xubuntu?  (it doesn't have the option like gdm and kdm do)
[08:34] <macd> SynthesiX, you can upgrade straight to edgy from console.
[08:35] <SynthesiX> would you be able to give me a small hint on how to do that please? (A)
[08:36] <macd> SynthesiX, type the following into a console: "sudo sed -e 's/breezy/edgy/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[08:36] <macd> hows that for a hint.
[08:36] <lskd-255> macd, may I ask what is meant by "the gnome workspace panel will not show anything in beryl "
[08:36] <SynthesiX> lol thnx
[08:36] <Quarupted> macd, all that time and effort because i didnt try using tar when the archive manager didnt work
[08:37] <macd> lskd-255, Im not sure how else to explain it, the gnome workspace switcher that shows the apps within each workspace, doesnt show them in beryl.
[08:37] <macd> unless AmbientMstr meant the window selector applet?
[08:40] <Setomidor> Morning, I really need a hand here... somehow my installation has become a unhealthy mix between 64 bit and 32 bit versions
[08:40] <macd> you mean you installed 32bit libs ;P
[08:41] <Setomidor> I made a fresh install yesterday with a 32 bit version, but after running updates a lot of 64 bit stuff was installed (I think)
[08:41] <lskd-255> window selector applet is a different 'window list'
[08:41] <macd> thats impossible.
[08:41] <inflex> when booting from the ubuntu CD, how can I restrict the X display size/refresh option?
[08:41] <Setomidor> macd: well I've got the linux-generic headers
[08:41] <Setomidor> Doesn't that suggest that the 64 bit version is beeing used?
[08:42] <macd> Setomidor, thats fine, linux-generic is the new kernel in edgy <
[08:42] <macd> 32bit here.
[08:42] <JAnYou> [Help] Hi, I want to copy all my emails in Evolution Mail InBox to my usb disk, but where can I find the actuall location of the Evolution Mail Inbox? Where does Evolution Mail Inbox store all these emails in hardisk?
[08:42] <Setomidor> macd: I got the famous edgy-eclipse bug, which only seems to hit 64 bit systems
[08:43] <macd> yeah thats why you just install eclipse from eclipse.org rather than apt-get ;)
[08:43] <lskd-255> setomidor, have you built a chroot32 'environment' on that computer?
[08:43] <inflex> is there a page somewhere listing all the Ubuntu boot/CD "magic codes" ?
[08:43] <Setomidor> lskd-255: I haven't done that explicitly, because I have no idea what you are refering to :)
[08:44] <guregu> Would anybody have a minute to help me with upgrading from breezy badger to edgy eft?  Please.
[08:44] <macd> Setomidor, if you installed 32bit linux, your not going to magically get 64bit.
[08:44] <lskd-255> !chroot
[08:44] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[08:44] <Setomidor> <- total linux retard
[08:44] <macd> guregu, type the following into a console: "sudo sed -e 's/breezy/edgy/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[08:44] <Setomidor> Thanks guys, I'll take a look
[08:45] <guregu> Thank you, macd....trying
[08:45] <lskd-255> it's suppose to help with certain criteria
[08:45] <macd> SeanTater, you dont have 64bit linux, chrooting 32bit wont get you anything.
[08:45] <macd> err Setomidor you have 32bit installed chrooting a 32bit env wont help you.
[08:46] <lskd-255> I thought Setomidor said he was on a 64bit system
[08:46] <guregu> thanks, macd...that worked
[08:46] <Setomidor> I'm on 64 bit processors, but 32 bit system
[08:46] <Setomidor> I hope
[08:46] <macd> Setomidor, does uname -a say you have x86_64 or x86.
[08:47] <Setomidor> Linux laptop 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Tue Dec 5 22:28:26 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:47] <macd> Setomidor, you have 32bit.
[08:47] <finlaylabs> does ubuntu have a convenient secure overwriting/wiping tool to ensure a hard-drives content is unrecoverable before i hand it back to hardware vendor? Ive reformatted as a new ext3 partition but im sure  that didnt really wipe everything.
[08:47] <mitrovarr> does anyone know what the fastest remote desktop type system is?  The server is reasonably fast but the client is dog slow.
[08:48] <inflex> NX ?
[08:48] <macd> mitrovarr, x11 forwarding is the most effiecient.
[08:48] <inflex> X directly, as apposed to via SSH
[08:48] <macd> either way is fine, over internet though you better be using SSH.
[08:48] <Setomidor> I spent all day yesterday trying to sort a wierd java bug: I run the same code (through mount) on this computer and from a 6.06 system right beside me, this one gets an error reading a .so file, but the other doesn't
[08:48] <mitrovarr> macd:  ah, that's what I'm trying now
[08:48] <guregu> macd: would I need to reboot when finished?  I am back to the prompt
[08:48] <Setomidor> And it has worked before
[08:48] <mitrovarr> macd:  I thought it would load the client the least but I wanted to make sure.  It's just local, basically a system to make a uselessly slow laptop into a useful terminal.
[08:49] <macd> guregu, if your back to a prompt that didnt work.
[08:49] <macd> did you issue the entire command?
[08:50] <guregu> macd: ok...I should have added earlier that I am doing this within vmware on a windows xp host system.  I am testing ubuntu out on my laptop before making this switch.  Could it be that I am trying to upgrade from within vmware?  Sorry to drag this on
[08:50] <hj> i can't use my cdma_card to internet
[08:50] <macd> guregu, nahh
[08:51] <macd> did you get any output?
[08:51] <macd> can you paste console output into a pastie
[08:51] <guregu> sure
[08:52] <guregu> macd: in the channel or a pvt msg?
[08:52] <finlaylabs> does ubuntu have a convenient secure overwriting/wiping tool to ensure a hard-drives content is unrecoverable before i hand it back to hardware vendor? Ive reformatted as a new ext3 partition but im sure  that didnt really wipe everything.
[08:52] <macd> in  http://pastie.caboo.se
[08:52] <macd> finlaylabs, the only way to ensure that is to physically destroy it.
[08:53] <guregu> macd: http://pastie.caboo.se/37404
[08:53] <finlaylabs> macd: hmmm well cant do that. There is a way to write over the whole disk with random data though right? Do u know how? That would be sufficient.
[08:53] <hj> who can help me?
[08:53] <ardchoille42> finlaylabs, You can look into using wipe, but I'm not sure what it does exactly.
[08:53] <ardchoille42> !wipe
[08:53] <ubotu> wipe: Secure file deletion. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.20-2 (edgy), package size 34 kB, installed size 120 kB
[08:54] <macd> finlaylabs, you can mount the drive and write zeros to is using "dd"
[08:54] <ardchoille42> macd, I think that's what wipe does
[08:54] <mitrovarr> Ok, a final question.  Is there any way to make a grub entry that connects directly to a remote x client instead of doing local stuff?
[08:54] <Quarupted> macd how can I search an entire mounted partition for a ISO file?
[08:54] <macd> guregu, ok, let me help you out a lil ;P
[08:55] <finlaylabs> macd: dd huh? will look into it. ardchoille42: I did look at wipe, I think you need a specific file you are deleting to do that - i need to wipe blank space.
[08:55] <macd> guregu, are you familiar with how to edit a file in a console?
[08:55] <ardchoille42> finlaylabs, Ah, ok.
[08:56] <guregu> macd: a bit
[08:56] <macd> Quarupted, find /partition *iso
[08:56] <andyshack> evening folks. i am having trouble with 5.10 with samba, ssh and vnc. the system has been running fine for a year the only change ive made is install firestarter (does it run on reboot automatically ? im under the impression that it doesnt, if so that could explain the problem) i can ping the server from anywhere, its happily browing the web etc, although i can no longer connect via ssh, samba or vnc. could someone point me in the righ
[08:56] <macd> guregu, ok, then type this "sudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list" and delete the contents, then put this in there: http://pastie.caboo.se/37405
[08:56] <danf_1979> Hi guys, someone with blackbox here? How can I change resolution?
[08:57] <macd> then run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:57] <kraut> moin
[08:59] <holycow> andyshack, sounds like you blocked all ports
[08:59] <andyshack> yeah, seems that way :)
[09:00] <frogzoo> andyshack: you need to enable the input connections on the relevant ports
[09:00] <andyshack> how can i check to see if firestarter is running as a background process ? ps -afs  or something along those lines .. ?
[09:00] <macd> ps ax | grep firestarter
[09:00] <frogzoo> andyshack: firestarter is a front end only to iptables - try 'sudo iptables -L -v' to see your ruleset
[09:01] <holycow> http://www.metacafe.com/watch/410981/blondie_unlocks_car/  <-- offtopic but seriously cool
[09:01] <holycow> you can unlock cars with tennis balls, wow
[09:01] <andyshack> yeah thats a way old one holycow.
[09:01] <holycow> andyshack, ah, well i'm slow
[09:01] <holycow> :)
[09:01] <andyshack> i dont think its worked for like 10 years
[09:01] <Quarupted> macd, hey you know how sometimes big files are compressed into lots of smaller like part.r01 and part.r02 ..etc? how can I decompress them into one file?
[09:01] <holycow> andyshack, the thing about firestarter is that it doesn't actually do anything
[09:01] <holycow> your firewall is built into th ekernel its called iptables
[09:01] <andyshack> ah ok its just a gui for the iptables as someone commented ?
[09:01] <macd> Quarupted, you just untar the one names .rar
[09:01] <holycow> firestarter is just a frontend
[09:02] <holycow> right
[09:02] <andyshack> cool, ill just boot it up and use it to set everything then.
[09:02] <Quarupted> macd I don't understand what you mean?
[09:02] <holycow> so when you removed it the iptables rules are left behind (i think i haven't used it in ages)
[09:02] <frogzoo> can you use ubuntu to crack car security ?
[09:02] <macd> just untar the one names part.rar
[09:02] <VxJasonxV> GimmeTOKYO, you going to ask your question or what? :P
[09:02] <macd> and you will have a large file made up off all the parts.
[09:02] <GimmeTOKYO> Jason :|
[09:02] <holycow> frogzoo, well you can throw ubuntu cds at the windshield
[09:02] <holycow> so technically yes
[09:03] <holycow> andyshack, that only works on old cars i guess?
[09:03] <Quarupted> macd, oh there is on part.rar how do I do it in a command line?
[09:03] <VxJasonxV> should I ask it for you?
[09:03] <GimmeTOKYO> Would someone be able to help me with an error I reached while trying to install ubuntu/kubuntu from knoppix?
[09:03] <macd> tar xvf part.rar
[09:03] <VxJasonxV> don't ask to ask
[09:03] <VxJasonxV> just ask
[09:03] <VxJasonxV> p.s. hi Adlai. Funny meeting you here.
[09:03] <holycow> tokyo, just ask
[09:03] <cute_bettong> which drive is hda?
[09:03] <VxJasonxV> holycow, GIM<tab>
[09:03] <VxJasonxV> tab completion is your friend
[09:03] <holycow> cute_bettong, the first hd on your ide ribbong on ide1
[09:04] <Adlai> oh, hi jason
[09:04] <GimmeTOKYO> Hi Adlai
[09:04] <andyshack> most old chevs can also be opened with an .au 5c piece (a penny) i used this frequently with my old torana years back.
[09:04] <holycow> VxJasonxV, wtf are you talking about? go away
[09:04] <frogzoo> cute_bettong: hda is primary on 1st ide chain
[09:04] <guregu> macd: I have edited out that stuff and added in the lines you sent...not sure how to save this though....I still have it open
[09:04] <VxJasonxV> holycow, I'm talking about nickname autocompletion
[09:04] <holycow> andyshack, no kidding
[09:04] <holycow> :)
[09:04] <VxJasonxV> it makes it insanely easier to reference someone by nick
[09:04] <macd> guregu, crtl X then enter to save
[09:04] <Adlai> whoa
[09:04] <Adlai> it's like a sows party
[09:04] <VxJasonxV> three's company? :P
[09:04] <andyshack> will my samba config contain the ports it wants ?
[09:05] <Quarupted> macd :( tar: This does not look like a tar archive
[09:05] <holycow> thank you captain obvious
[09:05] <GimmeTOKYO> I tried to run dpkg-reconfigure console-data in the "set up base system" part of the FAQ on the site, but I get a "console-data is not installed" mesage
[09:05] <Adlai> I suppose
[09:05] <macd> Quarupted, yeah you might have to use unrar
[09:05] <VxJasonxV> GimmeTOKYO is talking about https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromKnoppix <-- this guide, by the way
[09:05] <Quarupted> macd do you know the command for that?
[09:05] <macd> unrar ;)
[09:05] <VxJasonxV> he can't install Ubuntu directly because the Xserver fails to start
[09:05] <guregu> macd: got it...shall I run what you gave originally again?
[09:05] <Quarupted> macd no options?
[09:05] <Quarupted> macd just unrar part.rar ?
[09:05] <macd> guregu, just run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[09:05] <macd> Quarupted, yessir
[09:05] <mneptok> GimmeTOKYO: use the alternate CD
[09:06] <unimatrix9> do developers of ubuntu also visit this irc channel?
[09:06] <GimmeTOKYO> :'|
[09:06] <cute_bettong> can someone tell me what this error means in dmesg
[09:06] <cute_bettong> http://pastebin.com/873405
[09:06] <VxJasonxV> well,
[09:06] <macd> unimatrix9, more like watch and snicker ;P
[09:06] <VxJasonxV> you do have your HD mounted, and can actually download a full iso now
[09:06] <mneptok> heh
[09:06] <unimatrix9> hehe
[09:06] <VxJasonxV> and it just might be easier :P
[09:06] <GimmeTOKYO> Jason, yeah but i can't get the damn livecd to pop out :|
[09:06] <VxJasonxV> erm
[09:06] <unimatrix9> well please make an package for cinerella for next release!
[09:06] <VxJasonxV> you boot into the alt. cd
[09:06] <VxJasonxV> oh
[09:06] <lskd-255> unimatrix9, they may be the ones lurking, 'bwahahahahhaa' (don't look at me though)
[09:06] <VxJasonxV> never mind
[09:07] <unimatrix9> well please make an package for cinerella for next release!
[09:07] <VxJasonxV> that's right, the /other/ problem
[09:07] <mneptok> GimmeTOKYO: so burn it from Windows or another macihne.
[09:07] <VxJasonxV> mneptok, about that... what 'another' machine?
[09:07] <macd> cute_bettong, Id say your harddrive is bad, or the controller is going bad.
[09:07] <holycow> unimatrix9, they have ubuntu packages already out there
[09:07] <cute_bettong> brand new mainbord
[09:07] <GimmeTOKYO> mneptok, my windows install is currently unable to access the internet to where I can DL and get the proper tools for burning a cd
[09:07] <holycow> but they are pointless
[09:07] <cute_bettong> brand new hd
[09:07] <holycow> i can't figure the damned thing out
[09:07] <macd> cute_bettong, that doesnt mean a thing.
[09:07] <cute_bettong> could this create some odd behaviors in linux?
[09:08] <cute_bettong> darn....could it be a bios issue?
[09:08] <macd> cute_bettong, I doubt it.
[09:08] <Quarupted> macd, I dun think I am doing it right, it just prints the help file when I do unrar part.rar
[09:08] <unimatrix9> holycow, where can i find the cinerella package? with dependecies solved...
[09:08] <cute_bettong> darn.
[09:08] <VxJasonxV> cute_bettong, have you run fsck against the drive?
[09:08] <cute_bettong> no how do i do that?
[09:08] <VxJasonxV> sounds like either a bad controller or a bad hd right out of the gate
[09:08] <mneptok> GimmeTOKYO: that's why you get the ext3 driver for Widows, put it on rewovable media, install it' and then access the ext3 partitions from Windows ;)
[09:08] <andyshack> services are now all up!!! GREAT PARTY THANKS!
[09:08] <andyshack> good luck with your tennis ball ;)
[09:08] <macd> Quarupted, unrar e part.rar
[09:08] <macd> sorry, my mistake
[09:08] <holycow> unimatrix9, no such thing, its a bunch of packages that haveto be installed in order.  google it tho i can't remember
[09:09] <holycow> mostly because cinelerra is hard to use.
[09:09] <cute_bettong> how do i run fsck? is there a command that i use?
[09:09] <frogzoo> cute_bettong: what's your problem?
[09:09] <Quarupted> macd it says extracting each one then gets to the end and says no files to extract :(  and nothing changed in the dir
[09:09] <Bug2000> Q: How can I change the whole GUI to Hebrew from English? I failed to find the option :\
[09:09] <VxJasonxV> fsck is the command
[09:09] <cute_bettong> well my computer has been acting weard
[09:09] <VxJasonxV> but you can't run it while things are accessing the hard drive
[09:09] <unimatrix9> is there an alternative to crop mpeg video's?
[09:09] <macd> Quarupted, Im not really sure what to tell you without having my hands on it tbh.
[09:09] <frogzoo> cute_bettong: 'wierd' ? = ?
[09:09] <macd> it should "just work" ya know
[09:09] <cute_bettong> the mainbord and hd are new....though the hard drive is a replacement
[09:09] <VxJasonxV> frogzoo, go check out http://pastebin.com/873405
[09:09] <Quarupted> macd, so what do I do then?
[09:10] <Quarupted> macd, you wanna ssh in lol?
[09:10] <mneptok> Bug2000: System -> Admin -> Language Support
[09:10] <cute_bettong> yea sound issues and weard crashes and freezes and such just started happning on the western digital hard drive i have
[09:10] <cute_bettong> this would be the second one that has done this
[09:10] <macd> let me see if I have one of those multipart rars here and try it local
[09:10] <Quarupted> macd thx
[09:10] <holycow> unimatrix9, not sure actually ... have you looked at kino?
[09:10] <macd> I usualy use the ark (gui for all those)
[09:10] <Bug2000> mneptok, Can't. It doesn't let me since apt-get is running :P
[09:10] <frogzoo> cute_bettong: you should 'less /var/log/messages' & look for wierdness, especially scsi timeouts
[09:11] <unimatrix9> yes i tried it, but does no cropping
[09:11] <Quarupted> macd, so should I try that?
[09:11] <macd> yeah, try that first
[09:11] <mneptok> Bug2000: so go get some Runts(tm) or something ;)
[09:11] <unimatrix9> same for avidemux, no cropping
[09:11] <frogzoo> VxJasonxV: cute_bettong oh the log looks nasty
[09:11] <holycow> unimatrix9, this isn't an answer but there is an editing suite for $$ available for linux
[09:11] <holycow> like $100 or so forget the name
[09:11] <holycow> its supposed to be pretty good
[09:11] <unimatrix9> yeah i know, mainactor!
[09:11] <unimatrix9> hehe
[09:11] <Quarupted> macd hrm I dun think I have anything called ark, I tried the "archive manager" GUI one and it doesnt recognize it
[09:12] <unimatrix9> hard dollars eh?
[09:12] <holycow> that yeah ... i don't think ther eis much beyond that
[09:12] <macd> Quarupted, apt-get install ark ?
[09:12] <VxJasonxV> unimatrix9, mplayer? mencode?
[09:12] <Bug2000> mneptok, Whats Runts(tm) ?
[09:12] <VxJasonxV> mplayer can do just about everything...
[09:12] <holycow> unimatrix9, i think your right cinelerra is your only option
[09:12] <mneptok> Bug2000: "candy"
[09:12] <GimmeTOKYO> mneptok, you said just use the alternate cd?
[09:12] <cafuego_> the trick is to install `unrar'.
[09:12] <Quarupted> macd, lol okay just makin sure it wasnt the same thing
[09:12] <Bug2000> mneptok, No. It's bad for the theeth.
[09:12] <unimatrix9> mplayer and mencode do a lot of things, and i do use them, but cropping is not one of the options, that i know off
[09:12] <mneptok> GimmeTOKYO: the alternate CD will not use X during installation
[09:12] <finlaylabs> anyone know how to securely overwrite blank space?
[09:12] <frogzoo> cute_bettong: check your cables first - have you made any hardware changes recently?
[09:12] <holycow> unimatrix9, if you really need a crop, just figure out what order to install the debs ... the binaries are googleable someone maintains them out there
[09:12] <macd> cafuego, he already has unrar installed.
[09:13] <VxJasonxV> unimatrix9, you sure about that?
[09:13] <cafuego_> macd: Can he unpack the files via the cmdline?
[09:13] <unimatrix9> ok, thanxs, the other alternative is to ask an friend with more video edeting software ( windows eh...:( ...)
[09:13] <Quarupted> macd I think its workin
[09:13] <macd> cafuego_: sure but why when you can guify your life.
[09:14] <holycow> unimatrix9, i'm not sure how cropping would be usefull from the command line either
[09:14] <cafuego_> macd: To debug
[09:14] <macd> cafuego, if the gui doesnt work, then thats the nbext option right, logical .....
[09:14] <VxJasonxV> unimatrix9, mencoder (MPlayer's Movie Encoder) is a simple movie encoder, designed to encode MPlayer-playable formats [...]   Furthermore it has stream copying abilities, a powerful  filter  system  (crop,  expand, flip, postprocess, rotate, scale, noise, RGB/YUV conversion) and more.
[09:14] <cafuego_> macd: Depending on the unrar version, it might not be able to deal withc ertaina rchives.
[09:14] <cafuego_> note unrar-nonfree/unrar/unrar-free
[09:14] <macd> cafuego_: lets not talk hypothetical until it doesnt work.
[09:15] <cute_bettong> no i haven't though i will shut down in a few minutes just going through the logs now
[09:15] <cafuego_> macd: Well, it *didn't* work
[09:15] <macd> cafuego_, b/c I didnt give the correct command line syntax ;)
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[09:16] <Quarupted> macd did you get my msg??
[09:16] <finlaylabs> anyone know how to securely overwrite blank space?
[09:16] <macd> get mine Quarupted
[09:16] <unimatrix9> hmm, i think we need an perfect gui frontend for mencoder, that works with cropping, scaling , the works...:)
[09:16] <macd> unimatrix9, they have one, I think
[09:17] <VxJasonxV> unimatrix9, http://rafb.net/p/lSzZgX20.html
[09:17] <VxJasonxV> mplayer / mencoder can do it
[09:17] <VxJasonxV> it's insanely powerful, and awesome
[09:17] <VxJasonxV> doesn't take too long to piuck up either
[09:17] <VxJasonxV> besides
[09:18] <VxJasonxV> you lose all sorts of scriptability with a gui
[09:18] <cute_bettong>  EXT3-fs: INFO: recovery required on readonly filesystem.
[09:18] <unimatrix9> thanx i will look into that...here is an other tip http://f0rked.com/projects/simplerip
[09:18] <cute_bettong> whats that mean?
[09:18] <holycow> cropping from the command line is like getting a blind dude to do colour correction
[09:18] <unimatrix9> but thats more command line...
[09:18] <holycow> for some things you need a gui
[09:18] <frogzoo> cute_bettong: I'd say the drive is cactus if there's not a cable/power problem
[09:18] <cute_bettong> :(
[09:18] <Logit1> Hey guys
[09:19] <Logit1> I got ubuntu working! woohoo!
[09:19] <KingAztech|BUSY> aha congrats
[09:19] <KingAztech|BUSY> how many goes did it take?
[09:19] <holycow> Logit1, coolness
[09:19] <KingAztech|BUSY> go's*
[09:19] <Logit1> I'm LOVING it so far
[09:19] <Logit1> Swapped from xp today
[09:19] <KingAztech|BUSY> welcome to our world Logit1
[09:19] <holycow> neato
[09:19] <holycow> if you have any questions ask
[09:19] <enix> if the bios is set to check cd-rom first thing than a livecd should boot befor grub right
[09:19] <Logit1> I game a lot, so I'll prolly need another partition, w/e though
[09:20] <Logit1> Yeah, I do have a few questions :)
[09:20] <unimatrix9> by the way, a really good example, and working program to rip / and make dvd, vcd svcd is devede
[09:20] <frogzoo> enix: absolutely
[09:20] <shadeofgrey> okay
[09:20] <shadeofgrey> so
[09:20] <holycow> Logit1, you will windows for most of the games you play probably
[09:20] <holycow> no shame in that
[09:20] <shadeofgrey> is it easy toinstall ubuntu on macbookpro's yet?
[09:20] <unimatrix9> http://www.rastersoft.com/programas/devede.html
[09:20] <Logit1> Where do I get the nvidia drivers?
[09:20] <shadeofgrey> last time i checked it was still prohibitively complicatred
[09:20] <holycow> Logit1, from repositories
[09:20] <holycow> !nvidia
[09:20] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:20] <enix> damn, does that mean that the live cd doesnt work, i dent even see anything about it checking cdrom befor grub comes up
[09:20] <KingAztech|BUSY> most games are starting to work on lunix, just a matter of time ^_^ i use my lil bro comp when it gets with games.
[09:21] <holycow> its getting better
[09:21] <macd> linux is luniy ;P
[09:21] <holycow> but most devs depend in windows toolkit things like directx
[09:21] <holycow> it will be a while before we see an active market for linux games
[09:21] <shadeofgrey> and theres no arguement against it..  the 8800 nvidia cards certifiably kick serious ass
[09:21] <Uo> Hey ,
[09:21] <shadeofgrey> directx 10 is off the fucking chain
[09:22] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | shadeofgrey
[09:22] <ubotu> shadeofgrey: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:22] <GreyGhost> !gparted
[09:22] <ubotu> gparted is gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "sudo apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[09:22] <Uo> Who could help me ?
[09:22] <VxJasonxV> don't ask to ask
[09:22] <VxJasonxV> just ask
[09:22] <shadeofgrey> Uo:  nobiody if you donty say what you need help with dude
[09:22] <spacenerve> is there a back-ported 2.6.19+ kernel package available for dapper/edgy ?
[09:22] <GreyGhost> can gparted "safely" move NTFS partitions?
[09:22] <VxJasonxV> hello shadeofgrey
[09:23] <shadeofgrey> Vx:  sup dude?
[09:23] <shadeofgrey> VxJasonxV, havent been here in ages
[09:23] <shadeofgrey> imn really depressded man. i just got real comgfortable with my     macbnookpro and i may have to sell out and go back to an alienware system
[09:23] <shadeofgrey> im losing my 4 good typingh fingers to arthritis
[09:24] <VxJasonxV> (hint: go to #wordpress as it's more offtopic friendly)
[09:24] <VxJasonxV> that and it's a blogging channel. this channel doesn't wanna hear your emo XD
[09:24] <holycow> shadeofgrey, why?
[09:24] <Logit1> That link confuses me :<
[09:24] <shadeofgrey> and running dragon naturally speaking pro in virtual machine mode on mac is prohinitively expensive.. its not doable with less than 6 gigs of ram
[09:24] <Uo> 
[09:24] <holycow> you haveto give up your mac an dyour here?
[09:24] <holycow> i don't get it
[09:24] <Logit1> can anyone explain this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[09:25] <Uo> 
[09:25] <GreyGhost> anytone? on Gparted and moving NFS?
[09:25] <GreyGhost> *NTFS
[09:25] <finlaylabs> anyone know how to securely overwrite blank space?
[09:25] <Logit1> In the package manager, select the Settings menu, then Repositories.
[09:25] <shadeofgrey> well
[09:25] <Logit1> I did that...
[09:25] <nicholaspaul> What would be a great 'lite' audio player, one that wont hog resources but work great in XFCE?
[09:25] <shadeofgrey> if i go back to pc it means ill be able to dualboot ubuntiu again
[09:25] <shadeofgrey> i really miss that
[09:25] <unimatrix9> GreyGhost, you will have to try, but should alway's backup first!
[09:26] <nicholaspaul> shadeofgrey: you mean you can't dual boot on your mac?
[09:26] <GreyGhost> unimatrix9 ,thats the problem .. i don't know where to backup 0GBs worth of data :(
[09:26] <Uo> In this days , I found Battery monitor error .
[09:26] <Logit1> Can someone explain how to get my nvidia drivers working please :<
[09:27] <shadeofgrey> nicholaspaul, i havent tried because the procedure is so much more complicated then on PC
[09:27] <unimatrix9> GreyGhost, and you should use the gparted live cd...
[09:27] <GreyGhost> unimatrix9: ,ok
[09:27] <unimatrix9> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[09:27] <lskd-255> finlaylabs, are you still here?
[09:27] <jalkmar> what is the kernel version in latest ubuntu?
[09:28] <Logit1> Could someone PLEASE explain how to install nvidia drivers
[09:28] <nicholaspaul> shadeofgrey: nah, i wouldnt say so. My G4 PB loves running OSX and Edgy :)
[09:28] <GreyGhost> unimatrix9 ,thansk
[09:28] <VxJasonxV> Logit1, read the link
[09:28] <shadeofgrey> im on a macbookpro
[09:28] <Logit1> Vx: I did
[09:28] <VxJasonxV> ok?
[09:28] <Logit1> It's confusing though
[09:28] <VxJasonxV> ask SPECIFIC questions
[09:28] <Logit1> I tried, nobody heard me out
[09:28] <hj> is anybody who can help me?
[09:28] <Uo> System warning "Can't access ACPI events in /var/run/acpid.socket! Make sure the ACPI subsystem is working and the acpid daemon is running." If add "battery charger monitor to panel "
[09:28] <Logit1> I'll address you specifically :P
[09:29] <finlaylabs> lskd-255 : yes, still here
[09:29] <lskd-255> logit, go to project-beryl.org and get their nvidia script to load drivers and app
[09:29] <nicholaspaul> shadeofgrey: does that make it more painful then?
[09:29] <holycow> lskd-255, eeep! noooo!
[09:29] <holycow> dude don't do that
[09:29] <holycow> lol
[09:29] <unimatrix9> GreyGhost, if you can use third party software...
[09:29] <holycow> just install them from the repo
[09:29] <holycow> its just one file
[09:29] <shadeofgrey> nicholaspaul, as far as i can tell... YES
[09:29] <bluefox83> what runs gnome-vfs-daemon and do i need it?
[09:29] <holycow> nvidia-glx
[09:30] <lskd-255> finlaylabs, check this out........... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2002/11/21/data_security_for_linux_power/   it's go a link at he bottom of the page '945.tar.gz'
[09:30] <Logit1> project beryl is down
[09:30] <holycow> thats what  you want, install that, it should config yoru xorg.conf file and you logout and log back in
[09:30] <nicholaspaul> shadeofgrey:  oh ok. :) hey, now I know!
[09:30] <jalkmar> anyone here knows what kernel is used by dapper?
[09:30] <shadeofgrey> well
[09:30] <holycow> Logit1, don't do what he told you, bad advice
[09:30] <shadeofgrey> wait a minuter
[09:30] <finlaylabs> lskd-255 : will do. thx.
[09:30] <Logit1> Do what who told me?
[09:30] <shadeofgrey> dont assume its hard for EVERYBODY with macbookpro's
[09:30] <GreyGhost>  unimatrix9 ,yes?
[09:30] <Iulian> jalkmar: uname -r and you'll see.
[09:30] <Logit1> holycow: how should I install drivers for my nvidia based graphics card?
[09:31] <lskd-255> finlaylabs, I'm not saying that's what you need or is safe mind you :)
[09:31] <shadeofgrey> but see i dont have very much mac experiencve and the instructions i found looked certifiably suicidal for any macosx user that doesnt have plenty of experience with making and deleting partitions by hand
[09:31] <finlaylabs> lskd-255 : gotcha.
[09:31] <holycow> Logit1, system / admin / synaptic package manager
[09:31] <jalkmar> Iulian: thanks
[09:31] <holycow> search for what i told you
[09:31] <Logit1> holycow: Okay, then what
[09:31] <shadeofgrey> and installing grub manually was certifiably obscene
[09:32] <holycow> Logit1, well install it, its self explanatory
[09:32] <nicholaspaul> shadeofgrey: lol well, on ppc, it was quite simple, as long as you had a spare partition to 'abuse'.
[09:32] <holycow> log out and log back in, thats all i think
[09:32] <Uo> 
[09:32] <Uo> 
[09:32] <Uo> 
[09:33] <Logit1> holycow: install it from where
[09:33] <Logit1> holycow: i see the menu, but there's 2 options
[09:33] <holycow> what two options?
[09:33] <Logit1> glx, glx-dev and kernel-common
[09:33] <holycow> nvidia-glx
[09:33] <Logit1> 3 packages i mean
[09:33] <holycow> thats it
[09:33] <holycow> just that
[09:33] <Uo> Uo:.
[09:33] <makuseru> hello, when i try to start a program it wont run, and if i try to launch it from a terminal i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3806/ can someone please help me figure out got to get it to run
[09:34] <Iulian> Uo: There is anything we can do for you ?
[09:34] <fuoco> to install ubuntu on an already partitioned system which has all partitions in lvm group, which install cd do I need - the livecd (normal) one or the alternative one?
[09:34] <Logit1> holycow: okay, it's asking me to insert my livecd
[09:34] <Logit1> holycow: is that right?
[09:34] <shadeofgrey> nicholaspaul, im hesitant to get violent with my intel-nbased mac partitions
[09:34] <shadeofgrey> i mean dont get me wrong
[09:34] <agliv5> Greetings :) I'm having a problems installing GLib 2.12 on ubuntu... it says: 'pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0' returned 2.12.0, but GLIB (2.10.3)*** was found! Can anyone help?
[09:34] <holycow> Logit1, ah, well thats fine, but you should enable online repositories first
[09:34] <Logit1> how so?
[09:34] <shadeofgrey> my windows friends used to call me battleaxe...  but on mac its a different ball game
[09:34] <holycow> and disable cdrom, online has lots more software
[09:34] <Logit1> sorry, i'm a newb at this :)
[09:35] <agliv5> Let me try that again....
[09:35] <agliv5> Greetings :) I'm having a problems installing GLib 2.12 on ubuntu... it says: 'pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0' returned 2.12.0, but GLIB (2.10.3)*** was found! Can anyone help?
[09:35] <holycow> system / admin / software properties
[09:35] <hj> I can't use cdma wireless to internet
[09:35] <hj> who can tell me why
[09:35] <holycow> Logit1, its okay i will try to keep the jerk in me locked up :)
[09:35] <guregu> macd: I got most of the way through it...it seemed like it was almost done....then I got this error http://pastie.caboo.se/37408
[09:35] <shadeofgrey> Logit:  dude...  we were all newbies once.  just dont take any shit from you ubuntu install -- dont let it know your afraid.  edgy can smell fear
[09:35] <Logit1> holycow: there is no software properties
[09:36] <shadeofgrey> trust me on this one - i drove the veterans of this channel nuts when i torched my windows install media and forced myself to uyse ubuntu full time for over two years
[09:36] <macd> guregu, do "sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/volumeid_093-0ubuntu18.0edgy2_i386.deb"
[09:36] <Logit1> shadeofgrey: hahaha
[09:36] <finlaylabs> lskd-255 : command from the script " sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sdc" seems to be doing something :)
[09:36] <holycow> Logit1, i don't remember what they renamed it to, i use dapper ... its something different on edgy ... anyone can tell him?
[09:37] <Logit1> software sources?
[09:37] <lskd-255> finlaylabs, good luck
[09:37] <holycow> sounds right
[09:37] <Logit1> so now what?
[09:37] <holycow> enable all of them, disable your cdrom ... yo ushouldn't need that until next reinstall
[09:38] <Logit1> next reinstall?
[09:38] <jalkmar> what gcc version is dappers kernel compiled with
[09:38] <Logit1> also, enable all of what exactly?
[09:38] <guregu> macd: it didn't work http://pastie.caboo.se/37409
[09:38] <holycow> Logit1, as a newb you are guaranteed to mess everything up
[09:38] <frogzoo> holycow: wireshark?
[09:38] <holycow> -_-
[09:38] <fuoco> to install ubuntu on an already partitioned system which has all partitions in lvm group, which install cd do I need - the livecd (normal) one or the alternative one?
[09:39] <Logit1> I just want to install nvidia drivers for god's sake :<
[09:39] <holycow> Logit1, ubuntu stores most of its software in online repositores
[09:39] <shadeofgrey> okjay
[09:39] <holycow> multiple online repositores, check them all off
[09:39] <macd> guregu, do "sudo dpkg--force-/var/cache/apt/archives/volumeid_093-0ubuntu18.0edgy2_i386.deb"
[09:39] <lskd-255> logit1, go to project-beryl.org and get their nvidia script to load drivers and app
[09:39] <jalkmar> what gcc version is dappers kernel compiled with
[09:39] <shadeofgrey> logit1:  ill help you exclusively
[09:39] <shadeofgrey> what version of ubuntu u running?
[09:39] <Logit1> 6.10
[09:39] <macd> guregu, errr
[09:39] <macd>  "sudo dpkg --force-/var/cache/apt/archives/volumeid_093-0ubuntu18.0edgy2_i386.deb"
[09:40] <Anudhyan> hello. I installed windows after linux and I'm having trouble getting to get linux listed in the OS choices menu. I followed the steps listed here - http://www.canerten.com/dual-boot-linux-and-windows-with-windows-boot-manager/ - but with no luck.
[09:40] <holycow> Anudhyan, wrong order
[09:40] <holycow> windows first then linux afterwards
[09:40] <guregu> macd: yeah, thanks :) it said command not found on the previous one....trying
[09:40] <Anudhyan> yeah I know. I did that at first.
[09:40] <holycow> just reinstall ubuntu or use livecd to reinstall grub
[09:40] <Anudhyan>  But stupid windows got corrupted and I had to reinstall it.
[09:41] <Logit1> shadesofgrey: 6.10 man
[09:41] <holycow> Anudhyan, also you must make sure windows is on the 'first' partition, it expect to be on c drive for some reasons
[09:41] <Logit1> dunno if you saw
[09:41] <Anudhyan> Yes it is in C drive.
[09:41] <lskd-255> Logit1, you're gonna click the wiki link at the top of the page
[09:41] <Anudhyan> But no other way other than reinstalling ubuntu ?
[09:41] <Logit1> Eh?
[09:41] <Logit1> Top of what page
[09:41] <jalkmar> what gcc version is dappers kernel compiled with
[09:41] <lskd-255> Logit1, then an nvidia link
[09:42] <lskd-255> logit1,  www.project-beryl.org
[09:42] <Logit1> It's down
[09:42] <holycow> Logit1, dont listen to him
[09:42] <holycow> please
[09:42] <holycow> your going to hose your system
[09:42] <Logit1> Someone assisteth me
[09:42] <holycow> thats very bad way to install  nvidia
[09:42] <Logit1> Okay
[09:42] <Logit1> No beryl for me the
[09:42] <Logit1> then*
[09:42] <jalkmar> what gcc version is dappers kernel compiled with
[09:42] <Logit1> So how would I go about installing it from an online package?
[09:42] <holycow> Logit1, dude you can have beryl, jus tinstall it from repositories
[09:42] <guregu> macd: I am noobish at the command line...what's going on here http://pastie.caboo.se/37410
[09:43] <ademan> using grep how can i find a file with literally '.' in the file name? rather than . being a wildcard?
[09:43] <Logit1> I don't even know what beryl is
[09:43] <holycow> enable all the repositories update, search for the package i toldyou and install
[09:43] <frogzoo> jalkmar: cat /proc/version
[09:43] <holycow> people why are you having noobs install nvidia packages with some lame scripts?
[09:43] <holycow> stop that
[09:43] <Logit1> How do I enable all the repositories
[09:43] <Anudhyan> Installing Windows after Linx would not work at all ?
[09:43] <macd> guregu, ok, for future reference what Im telling you is a bad practice, but will not hurt right now.
[09:43] <holycow> show them how to enable repos and install properly so they can back out if something goes wrong
[09:43] <macd> dpkg --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/volumeid_093-0ubuntu18.0edgy2_i386.deb
[09:43] <holycow> damn, i'm seeing a lot of bad advice here as time goes on
[09:43] <TheSkorm> Anudhyan it would work, but you have to install grub again
[09:43] <lskd-255> holycow,  hahaha, so my system is hosed?  thanks for letting me know
[09:43] <frogzoo> !easysource | Logit1
[09:43] <ubotu> Logit1: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:44] <lskd-255> I'll go unhose it
[09:44] <ademan> Anudhyan: no it works fine, i did it, it's just linux will AUTOMATICALLY detect a previous windows installation so you can boot both, if you install windows second, you have the enable windows by hand
[09:44] <holycow> lskd-255, no it's not necessarily, just teach the noobs to use repos first before you show them how to install the wrong way
[09:44] <Logit1> holycow: how do i enable repos man
[09:44] <Anudhyan> ademan: thats what I am trying to do.
[09:45] <guregu> macd: noted, unfortunately I received the same error
[09:45] <holycow> Logit1, system / admin ... i don't have 6.10 here i'm on 6.06 ... you said something about software sources ... that sounds right
[09:45] <Anudhyan> To do it by hand. By editing the boot.ini file.
[09:45] <adriano> can anyone help me?
[09:45] <macd> guregu, yeah due to my stupidity
[09:45] <macd> lol, dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/volumeid_093-0ubuntu18.0edgy2_i386.deb
[09:45] <ademan> Logit1: go to synaptic, settings->repositories and check universe and multiverse
[09:45] <Logit1> holycow: Okay so I'm in software sources, now what do I do in that
[09:45] <macd> 3am is taking its toll ;P
[09:46] <lskd-255> I find it odd a video driver could hose a system,  tell your local linux developer, get an email off to linus
[09:46] <holycow> Logit1, well think it through.  you shoul dhave a list of repos
[09:46] <ademan> Anudhyan: oh, personally i'd just reinstall GRUB as imho it's better than the windows bootloader
[09:46] <holycow> some are checked off some aren't
[09:46] <Logit1> ademan: Thanks
[09:46] <Logit1> Ademan was right
[09:46] <holycow> check off everything, uncheck cds.  hit apply
[09:46] <Logit1> Now what
[09:46] <lavi> Hirvinen, BIG... :)  Is there any function can active the specific window to top of else ?
[09:46] <guregu> macd: I received this one line error...dpkg: operation requires read/write access to dpkg status area
[09:46] <ademan> Logit1: you should have to hit "refresh" in synaptic after you've checked the repositories you want
[09:46] <adriano> anyone?
[09:47] <Logit1> Cds?
[09:47] <Anudhyan> ademan: are you sure? wont editing windows boot loader be simpler ?
[09:47] <macd> yeah you need to sudo guregu
[09:47] <Anudhyan> [boot loader] 
[09:47] <Anudhyan> timeout=30
[09:47] <Anudhyan> default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[09:47] <Anudhyan> [operating systems] 
[09:47] <Anudhyan> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect
[09:47] <holycow> ademan, thanks, i don't have 6.10 here
[09:47] <ademan> !paste | Anudhyan
[09:47] <ubotu> Anudhyan: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:47] <ademan> anyways, Anudhyan i suppose it would be easier, but i prefer GRUB to the windows bootloader
[09:47] <Anudhyan> ok sorry.
[09:47] <Logit1> ademan: When you said uncheck CDS, what'd you mean
[09:48] <ademan> Anudhyan: you won't find much support for the windows bootloader here in #ubuntu though :-p
[09:48] <Anudhyan> ademan: where then ? :)
[09:48] <guregu> macd: gotcha...seems to be working
[09:48] <ademan> Logit1: oh i didn't hehe, but i honestly don't even know your problem, i just know you were being told to enable the universe and multiverse repositories :-)
[09:48] <Logit1> Right, I did that
[09:48] <ademan> Anudhyan: honestly? i don't know, lemme do a quick google
[09:49] <macd> guregu, after it finishes, youll need to run 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' again, to finish the process.
[09:49] <ademan> Logit1: what exactly are you trying to accomplish again?
[09:49] <adriano> yoohoo?
[09:49] <Logit1> Get nvidia drivers and creative soundblaster drivers installed
[09:49] <Jordan_U> How do I map the mac "command" key to act like the "super" key?
[09:49] <Uo> ...
[09:49] <guregu> macd: lol, thanks...you preemptively answered my question
[09:49] <Uo> Problem:I had add "battery charger monitor " to Panel ,,Found  error message are "Can't access ACPI events in /var/run/acpid.socket! Make sure the ACPI subsystem is working and the acpid daemon is running",",Cound you teach me how handle it .    I My system version is Ubuntu6.06 , and had using apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:49] <macd> Jordan_U, under keyboard shortcuts.
[09:50] <ademan> Anudhyan: http://highlandsun.com/hyc/linuxboot.html   might help, although i only skimmed it
[09:50] <ademan> Logit1: ah, hold on
[09:50] <Anudhyan> ademan: thanks. I'll check it out.
[09:50] <incorrect> has anyone got the latest beryl working?
[09:50] <lacostej> Hei... Buying a new laptop (mostly for software development purposes, no games, some DVD playing). I hesitate between an Intel GMA 950 and an ATI X1400 for the graphics card with preference going for the Intel one (open source drivers). Any advice ? Anyone using a GMA 950 ?
[09:50] <Jordan_U> incorrect: Works fine for me.
[09:51] <Logit1> ademan: dude, I'm in the synaptic package manager right
[09:51] <macd> lacostej, I would also lean towards intel.
[09:51] <incorrect> Jordan_U, the latest update says deadly signal 11 for me when starting
[09:51] <ademan> lacostej: if you want to play with beryl iirc GMA 950 is pretty dang good
[09:51] <incorrect> the bug db doesn't have it :(
[09:51] <Logit1> ademan: I check the nvidia-glx and when I try to install it wants me to put in the ubuntu livecd
[09:51] <shadeofgrey> lacostej, dude -- buy nvidia -- intel graphics processors blow
[09:51] <Jordan_U> incorrect: I would try #beryl
[09:51] <holycow> Logit1, in the same place MAKE SURE TO UNCHECK the cd
[09:51] <macd> ATI's linux driver isnt the best, and it s abinary blob and taints the kernel, plus who wants to support a company that wont provide OSS drivers.
[09:51] <holycow> Logit1, remember?
[09:51] <Logit1> holycow: thanks :)
[09:52] <jalkmar> what gcc version is dappers kernel compiled with
[09:52] <ademan> jalkmar: probably 4.1
[09:52] <frogzoo> incorrect: that's a known bug
[09:52] <ademan> jalkmar: why though?
[09:52] <frogzoo> incorrect: try #ubuntu-xgl
[09:52] <Iulian> jalkmar: You have something in /proc/version
[09:52] <Jordan_U> macd: And what do I enter in the keyboard shortcuts to map it to super?
[09:52] <incorrect> thanks frogzoo
[09:52] <frogzoo> jalkmar: cat /proc/version
[09:52] <shadeofgrey> lacostej, check your private message window!  ill help you pick a good laptop
[09:52] <macd> jalkmar, actualy its 4.0
[09:53] <guregu> macd: ran into this http://pastie.caboo.se/37413
[09:53] <macd> Jordan_U, you have to hit the button to get its opcode.
[09:53] <Logit1> okay, guess we'll see how this works out guys! brb
[09:53] <shadeofgrey> im really good at it...  mainly bercause im ocd and anal retentive about performance issues
[09:53] <jalkmar> macd: ok thanks
[09:53] <ademan> Logit1: if you want the latest and greatest NVIDIA drivers, you can use this site: http://albertomilone.com/driver_edgy.html     though it's not officially supported, it has directions right there
[09:53] <shadeofgrey> rule numero uno:  DONT buy ati - ever.
[09:54] <shadeofgrey> rule 2:  see rule 1
[09:54] <holycow> correct
[09:54] <KenSentMe> If i do this in a stuffed folder: cat *|grep text, i can see that some file has 'text' in it. How can i see what file?
[09:54] <macd> guregu, ahh yes, X11R6 to X11R7, my suggestion is to exit your X session and run "apt-get dist-upgrade -f"  from console and let it finish, reboot and all should be well.
[09:54] <Jordan_U> macd: I don't think you understand, or maybe I don't understand you, I don't want to set a keyboard shortcut, I want all of the shortcuts in all my programs that use "super" to work with the command key.
[09:55] <shadeofgrey> rule 3:  if by some strange stroke of inssanity you DO BUY ATI - dont even take the machine out of the box.  douse the box in lighter fluid find some matches and burn the machine as an offering to the opensource gods
[09:55] <macd> Jordan_U, ohh, you should remap the key then, but todoso youll need the opcode of the mac key.
[09:55] <Uo> Senior , Could you spend some time to help me find this problem ?
[09:55] <shadeofgrey> otherwise your kernel will send you hate mail on a daily basis
[09:55] <Logit1> Back!
[09:55] <guregu> macd: by X session, you mean X chat or something else?  I swear I'm not a third grader
[09:55] <macd> shadeofgrey, mine sends hate mail from nvidia too :/
[09:55] <macd> guregu, I mean the GUI, kill it.
[09:55] <Logit1> How come I can't select my native res for my monitor?
[09:55] <macd> which means youll be without irc ;)
[09:56] <Uo> Problem:I had add "battery charger monitor " to Panel ,,Found  error message are "Can't access ACPI events in /var/run/acpid.socket! Make sure the ACPI subsystem is working and the acpid daemon is running",",Cound you teach me how handle it .    I My system version is Ubuntu6.06 , and had using apt-get dist-upgrade .
[09:56] <frogzoo> !fixres | Logit1
[09:56] <ubotu> Logit1: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:56] <Jordan_U> macd: where in the xev output is the opcode, or is it the keycode?
[09:56] <Logit1> Thanks :0
[09:56] <macd> keycode, opcode, same thing ;)
[09:56] <macd> 0xwhtever
[09:57] <Rly> I'm experiencing some problems with GAIM, anyone can help?
[09:57] <kippi> hey
[09:57] <guregu> macd: ok, not really sure how to do that or how to get back to the gui
[09:57] <Jordan_U> macd: Got it, 115
[09:57] <frogzoo> !anyone | Rly
[09:57] <ubotu> Rly: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:57] <Rly> !anyone
[09:57] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:57] <kippi> I am looking at setting up a ubuntu cluster, has anyone got any good howtos?
[09:57] <Logit1> So what section do I use for this article: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:57] <macd> guregu, you can just run the sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -f from your console now, but it might fail again, its hard to say exactly what todo I dont have a breezy box in front of me
[09:57] <frogzoo> Logit1: you read it
[09:58] <fuoco> to install ubuntu on an already partitioned system which has all partitions in lvm group, which install cd do I need - the livecd (normal) one or the alternative one?
[09:58] <Logit1> frogzoo: I did read it, and I'm confused
[09:58] <macd> fuoco, the livecd will work fine, just do manual partitioning
[09:58] <Uo> ooooooooo
[09:58] <agliv5> Anyone have expierence installing GLib 2.12 on ubuntu... it says: 'pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0' returned 2.12.0, but GLIB (2.10.3)*** was found! Can anyone help?
[09:58] <flemnos> Rly, what sort of problems with GAIM?
[09:58] <Logit1> How do I run the autodetect script again for 6.10?
[09:59] <frogzoo> Logit1: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:59] <Rly> !anyone can help me in figuring out why Gaim with my MSN account doesn't appear when I first open it and then, on the second try it shows a message telling me it's going to close because I've logged in on another location? because I have logg
[09:59] <Jordan_U> macd: Now that I have the keycode how do I remap the key?
[09:59] <frogzoo> Jordan_U: man xmodmap
[09:59] <Logit1> frogzoo: where do I type that in
[09:59] <ademan> Logit1: if you want the latest and greatest NVIDIA drivers, you can use this site: http://albertomilone.com/driver_edgy.html     though it's not officially supported, it has directions right there
[10:00] <Iulian> Logit1: command line
[10:00] <Logit1> How do I get to the command line
[10:01] <Iulian> Logit1: Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[10:01] <flemnos> Rly, the account doesn't appear in Add/Edit account box, doesn't appear in the Accounts menu, or your contacts don't appear in GAIM?
[10:01] <Rly> GAIM itself doesn't appear
[10:01] <Bug2000> Why doesn't it let me install xchat or vlc player?
[10:01] <ademan> Bug2000: what do you mean doesn't let you?
[10:01] <Rly> it only apopears the box to put my pass in
[10:01] <guregu> macd: is there a command I can run to kill the gui and go to the command line.........can I get back to the gui with startx?
[10:02] <Bug2000> It trys to download and won't connect.
[10:02] <Bug2000> It only does it to communety packs.
[10:02] <ademan> Bug2000: hrm, maybe the mirror is down?
[10:02] <ademan> or is it a GPG error?
[10:02] <macd> guregu, yeah crtl + alt + f4  then login and run command
[10:02] <Bug2000> GPG Error I think.
[10:02] <macd> to get back to gui crtl +alt + f7
[10:03] <macd> youll also need to kill the tty X is running on.
[10:03] <Jordan_U> guregu: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop then use udo /etc/init.d/gdm restart to get back into X.
[10:03] <nanda> can someone help me with NetworkManager?
[10:03] <nanda> I installed it, but can't figure out how to run the thing
[10:04] <Russell-> i changed my ISP today, now internet is working on Windows, but not on Kubuntu 6.06... what might be the problem?
[10:04] <ademan> Bug2000: huh that's strange
[10:04] <Jordan_U> nanda: There should be an icon in your top panel
[10:04] <ademan> nanda: edgy or dapper?
[10:04] <nanda> Jordon: it doesn't show up
[10:04] <nanda> using edgy
[10:04] <macd> Jordan_U, that just kills gdm, X is still running
[10:04] <ademan> nanda: interesting, and you installed the network-manager-gnome package?
[10:04] <nanda> yes
[10:04] <nanda> its wierd
[10:04] <Logit1> !nvidia
[10:05] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:05] <Jordan_U> nanda: try running: nmapplet.
[10:05] <nanda> what does that do?
[10:05] <ademan> Logit1: if you want the latest and greatest NVIDIA drivers, you can use this site: http://albertomilone.com/driver_edgy.html     though it's not officially supported, it has directions right there, i reccomend it, as you'll get driver upgrades as often as they come out
[10:05] <macd> Jordan_U, as far as remapping the key, I dont remember where its stored, Im sure a quick google will reveal it
[10:05] <Jordan_U> nanda: Should start the applet.
[10:05] <Bug2000> ademan, If I try to do so via shell it tells me pack not found.
[10:05] <Logit1> How do i know if I have drivers installed
[10:05] <Logit1> !resolution
[10:05] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:06] <ademan> Bug2000: i assume you've got universe and multiverse installed?
[10:06] <ademan> er rather enabled
[10:06] <fuoco> there's a system that behaves quite strangely - i suspect it could be defected memory - how can i check it? is there some bootable cd that i can download and can check it?
[10:06] <Quarupted> Ipod works surprisingly well as a backup device
[10:06] <Bug2000> ademan, If you mean by uncommenting, yes.
[10:06] <nanda> Jordan_U: it says the command doesn't exist
[10:06] <Jordan_U> fuoco: There is a memory test on the ubuntu install CD's
[10:06] <ademan> Logit1: well on the command line run glxinfo and see if your OpenGL Renderer says NVIDIA
[10:06] <Uo> wu.
[10:06] <ademan> Bug2000: have you done a sudo apt-get update     ?
[10:07] <Jordan_U> nanda: sorry, nm-applet
[10:07] <Logit1> ademan: no go D:
[10:07] <ademan> (it can also be done via synaptic with the refresh button)
[10:07] <Bug2000> ademan, Ya, and dist-upgrade
[10:07] <ademan> Logit1: it says mesa?
[10:07] <nanda> Jordan: awsome, I go it!
[10:07] <nanda> thanks =)
[10:07] <fuoco> Jordan_U: ah, i didn't know that... but maybe there's a cd is more geared towards that?
[10:07] <ademan> Bug2000: OH, you're an upgrade from dapper? geeze, i'm sorry haha
[10:07] <Logit1> ademan: i'm going to try reinstalling the nvidia drivers
[10:07] <ademan> Bug2000: i had THE WORST upgrade experience, lemme tell you
[10:07] <Logit1> ademan: It says they're installed...argh
[10:08] <Bug2000> WTH,
[10:08] <Quarupted> How can I avoid windows from breaking grub when I reinstall it on the same part as ubuntu?
[10:08] <Bug2000> Something is wrong with the mirrors.
[10:08] <Logit1> ademan: I'm going to type in glxinfo and let you know what happens
[10:08] <Bug2000> blablalba (1.0.0.0)
[10:08] <ademan> Logit1: alright
[10:08] <nanda> thanks for the help
[10:08] <Logit1> ademan: wow, bunch of info i have no idea what to tell you
[10:08] <nanda> working now
[10:08] <nanda> cya
[10:08] <Jordan_U> Quarupted: You can't, you just have to reinstall grub afterwards.
[10:08] <nanda> :D
[10:08] <ademan> Bug2000: yeah have you tried pinging the mirrors?
[10:08] <Bug2000> il.archive.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)
[10:08] <Jordan_U> !grub | Quarupted
[10:08] <ubotu> Quarupted: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:09] <Bug2000> ademan, DNS is broken there.
[10:09] <ademan> Logit1: there should be a section that says "OpenGL Renderer:" and then either NVIDIA or something else
[10:09] <Bug2000> ademan, How do I refresh it?
[10:09] <Logit1> ademan: no go D:
[10:09] <ademan> Logit1: can't find the section? or it doesn't say NVIDIA?
[10:09] <Logit1> ademan: it doesn't say it
[10:09] <ademan> what's it say instead?
[10:09] <Logit1> ademan: it says couldn't find rgb glx visual
[10:10] <Logit1> ademan: it doesn't even say opengl rendered
[10:10] <ademan> strange
[10:10] <Logit1> ademan: opengl rendere*
[10:10] <ademan> Bug2000: dunno, sorry
[10:10] <Logit1> ademan: what do I do now?
[10:10] <ademan> Logit1: what card do you have?
[10:10] <Logit1> ademan: 7800 GTX
[10:11] <fuoco> is it possible to start that alternate installer from within the normal livecd?
[10:11] <ademan> i'd definitely consider this:
[10:11] <ademan> Logit1: if you want the latest and greatest NVIDIA drivers, you can use this site: http://albertomilone.com/driver_edgy.html     though it's not officially supported, it has directions right there, i reccomend it, as you'll get driver upgrades as often as they come out
[10:11] <ademan> fuoco: no, sorry
[10:11] <guregu> macd and jordan_u: Neither of those worked.  Ctrl + Alt + f4 did nothing.  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop just stopped Gnome Display Manager
[10:11] <riotkittie> fuoco: no
[10:11] <Logit1> This is so confusing
[10:11] <ademan> fuoco: or at least not to the best of my knowledge, several people have wanted it though, probably should be a bug report somewhere for next version
[10:11] <Logit1> I'm about to just go back to windows
[10:12] <Perryman> hello
[10:12] <Logit1> ademan: I'm looking at the website and I have no clue what it's saying
[10:12] <macd> guregu, you can do this: " ps ax | grep tty7" then the PID it comes up with "sudo kill -9 pidhere"
[10:12] <macd> that will drop you to a console
[10:12] <fuoco> riotkittie, ademan: i see, i thought because they are almost the same size - i expected the alternate to be much smaller
[10:12] <macd> then youll run the sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -f command
[10:12] <fotoflo_> hmnm how do i unrar?
[10:13] <shadeofgrey> hey
[10:13] <shadeofgrey> by the way everybody
[10:13] <ademan> Logit1: it lists the commands you need to run
[10:13] <riotkittie> fotoflo_: do you have the unrar or unrar-nonfree (eeerrr unrar-free? i forget) pkg installed?
[10:13] <ademan> (from the command line)
[10:13] <shadeofgrey> i finally made one ogf my big computing dreams come true!  i finally bought a dell 30" display
[10:13] <shadeofgrey> its amazing
[10:13] <shadeofgrey> can Ubuntu handle a widescreen monitor of that size?
[10:14] <fotoflo_> riotkittie, which package do i need?
[10:14] <ademan> Logit1: really you can just copy and paste it
[10:14] <riotkittie> shadeofgrey: and you wanna give it to your new pal riotkittie, right?
[10:14] <Perryman> i finished edgy eft install (6.1) dual boot on xp, and grub gives error 22, and i can't manually boot the partition successfully with super grub disc... think i need to reinstall?
[10:14] <Jordan_U> macd: For future reference, pkill basically does that in one command.
[10:14] <shadeofgrey> riotkittie, sure!
[10:14] <riotkittie> !unrar | fotoflo_
[10:14] <ubotu> fotoflo_: unrar is rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression  There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[10:14] <macd> Jordan_U, good call, I forgot about that.
[10:14] <shadeofgrey> riotkittie, just reach into your povket and hand me $1200 in cash first
[10:14] <frogzoo> Perryman: not at all, but grub's a bit confused as to where your partitions are you need to fix
[10:15] <fotoflo_> just downloaded unrar-free
[10:15] <frogzoo> Perryman: how many hds in this machine?
[10:15] <Perryman> 3
[10:15] <Perryman> i've got xp in 1 partition
[10:15] <Perryman> and 4 partitions in the ubuntu drive
[10:15] <riotkittie> 1200? pfft. you were robbed.
[10:15] <Jordan_U> shadeofgrey: If your GPU ( and linux drivers ) can handle it, Ubuntu can.
[10:15] <frogzoo> Perryman: all ide?
[10:15] <Logit1> ademan: i have ubuntu edgy 32 bit right?
[10:15] <shadeofgrey> well
[10:15] <Perryman> 1 is fat32, 2 is /, 3 is /home, 4 is swap
[10:15] <Perryman> all SATA
[10:15] <ademan> Logit1: yes
[10:15] <shadeofgrey> the problem is..  my macbookproi is ati powered
[10:16] <shadeofgrey> and ati still sucks for linux support no?
[10:16] <ademan> shadeofgrey: indeed
[10:16] <shadeofgrey> okay
[10:16] <Jordan_U> shadeofgrey: Yea, but you should at least get full resolution
[10:16] <shadeofgrey> nah
[10:16] <Perryman> so all i need to do is boot livecd and edit the grub conf?
[10:16] <ademan> i mean it works, but i got my NVIDIA drivers up in a day, its been 3 days and i still can't get my ATI drivers up
[10:16] <Logit1> ademan: what's the difference between nvidia non-legacy and legacy
[10:16] <ademan> Logit1: legacy is for OLD nvidia cards
[10:16] <shadeofgrey> im goinmg to do the easiest thing and just sekll my current mac and use the money to get an alienware laptop
[10:17] <shadeofgrey> i have no choice
[10:17] <guregu> macd: Did I grab the right PID....this came up...17656 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep tty7
[10:17] <guregu> .......I used 17656 for the PID....tried your command...nothing happened...back to prompt
[10:17] <shadeofgrey> i have less than 6 months before i wont be able to type anymore
[10:17] <shadeofgrey> by the way'
[10:17] <shadeofgrey> everybody
[10:17] <Perryman> quadruple amputee?
[10:17] <guregu> macd: btw I really appreciate all of this
[10:17] <shadeofgrey> i was on local news tv for my political commentary blog
[10:17] <shadeofgrey> anybody wanna see the interview?
[10:17] <frogzoo> Perryman: you'll need to boot the live cd & fixup the grub config
[10:17] <Jordan_U> shadeofgrey: Sure, but in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[10:18] <macd> guregu, you need to find the pid that is tty7
[10:18] <Perryman> frogzoo ok i'll get that going
[10:18] <shadeofgrey> Jordan_U, im sorry dude.  i forgot
[10:18] <macd> it should be a 4 digit pid
[10:18] <ademan> shadeofgrey: sure, but just fyi i've found that http://www.sagernotebook.com/index.html   has far better prices than alienware, i've had mine for about 3 years, and it's been going strong, untill last week when i dropped it off a table, but it still works fine except when playing games
[10:18] <agliv5> Anyone have expierence installing GLib 2.12 on ubuntu... it says: 'pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0' returned 2.12.0, but GLIB (2.10.3)*** was found! when trying to complie dependencies.  Can anyone help?
[10:19] <Perryman> frogzoo weird thing was that super grub disc listed it as SDA 0,1 and live cd lists it as SDB 0,1
[10:19] <ademan> agliv5: how are you trying to install glib?
[10:19] <guregu> macd: nothing was after tty7
[10:19] <Perryman> don't quite understand what would change that? active partition?
[10:19] <guregu> macd: will try it again though
[10:19] <macd> guregu, pastie your console output ;P
[10:19] <ademan> agliv5: ah, you're trying to install a newer version than whats in the repositories
[10:19] <frogzoo> Perryman: the disk is actually mapped in /boot/grub/device.map
[10:20] <ademan> agliv5: any particular reason why you need the super new version?
[10:20] <Perryman> ah so that's what i need to tweak?
[10:20] <Logit1> Eh guys
[10:20] <Logit1> It says this: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:20] <Logit1> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[10:20] <Perryman> lots of confusing information out there on the internets :)
[10:20] <frogzoo> Perryman: you may need to make some changes there, probly not though
[10:20] <agliv5> ademan by means of the glib-2.12.0.tar.bz2 source then ./configure make make install
[10:20] <Perryman> got a bit, live cd still loading
[10:20] <ademan> Logit1: make sure that synaptic is closed when you're doing that stuff
[10:20] <frogzoo> Perryman: the problem is in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:21] <Logit1> Ah
[10:21] <agliv5> ademan: did you get that last message, addressed it wrong...
[10:21] <guregu> macd: http://pastie.caboo.se/37416
[10:21] <agliv5> ademan: I'm trying to compile avisynth 3.0
[10:21] <ademan> agliv5: ah, and it requires a new version of glib?
[10:22] <Perryman> slow live cd :(
[10:22] <Perryman> hoping this will be worth the effort :)
[10:22] <macd> guregu, wierd, basically you just need to kill X (which Ive forgotten how apparently) and run the upgrade from console.
[10:23] <macd> maybe someone here can tell you (abnd I) howto kill X untill its been restarted with startx/gdm
[10:23] <Bug2000> Q: Why won't it let me install that Wine?!
[10:23] <ardchoille42> macd, Restart or stop X?
[10:23] <macd> stop completely.
[10:23] <shadeofgrey> macd: /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:23] <agliv5> ademan:  GLIB 2.5.7 or better is required. for one of it's dependencies
[10:23] <ademan> Bug2000: did you follow the directions on winehq.com ?
[10:23] <shadeofgrey> i think
[10:23] <macd> shadeofgrey, no, that wont work
[10:23] <shadeofgrey> its been a whiole
[10:24] <ardchoille42> macd, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm {start|stop|restart}
[10:24] <macd> ardchoille42, no that wont work.
[10:24] <ademan> agliv5: ergh, i'm sorry, well lemme take a look at that error again
[10:24] <shadeofgrey> yes it will
[10:24] <Bug2000> ademan, Yap.
[10:24] <macd> ok, so Im just imagingning it when X is still running after killing gdm *g*
[10:24] <agliv5> ademan: which is confusing because I tried to install 2.12, it's saying 2.10 is installed and they are both newer than 2.5.7
[10:25] <ademan> Bug2000: so what's the error?
[10:25] <Bug2000> Sec.
[10:25] <guregu> shadeofgrey: I am the one macd is helping out...earlier I tried that and it just stopped Gnome Display Manager in the console
[10:25] <Logit1> !resolution
[10:25] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:26] <agliv5> ademan: postbin?
[10:26] <Perryman> there we go. livecd booted, mounting root
[10:26] <illriginal> Hey guys... I want to be able to play .asf, .wmv, .wav, .divx, .mp3 etc... all media... how can i do this?
[10:26] <macd> guregu, can this by chance continue tommoz? its 330am here
[10:26] <macd> !restricted | illriginal
[10:26] <ubotu> illriginal: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:26] <ademan> agliv5: http://www.rafb.net/paste
[10:27] <frogzoo> !restricted | illriginal
[10:27] <frogzoo> Perryman: k, where'd it mount the disk?
[10:27] <ademan> agliv5 and Bug2000 i'll brb
[10:27] <Jordan_U> illriginal: install VLC
[10:27] <Perryman> er..... gparted is scanning
[10:27] <Perryman> and my mouse is locked
[10:27] <illriginal> off of synaptic?
[10:27] <Perryman> :(
[10:28] <Jordan_U> illriginal: And / or mplayer and all the plugins.
[10:28] <guregu> macd: yes, no problem...I know its late and this isn't a priority for me...I suppose I could just download the edgy eft iso and reinstall....anyways....thank you very much for your help
[10:28] <Jordan_U> illriginal: Yes.
[10:28] <Logit1> Erm guys
[10:28] <Logit1> So how do I fix my resolution again
[10:28] <Logit1> I looked at the link, not having much luck
[10:28] <Perryman> keyboard/mouse not responding
[10:28] <macd> guregu, yeah thats always a viable option, but the upgrade should have worked smoothly.
[10:28] <illriginal> ok cool this will enable me to view/play all media, yes?
[10:28] <Bug2000> ademan, Something about package points to another one that doesn't exsist.
[10:28] <Perryman> for some reason the livecd hates me
[10:28] <frogzoo> Perryman: lockup after you started gparted?
[10:29] <Perryman> yes
[10:29] <Logit1> Yo guys
[10:29] <agliv5> ademan: http://rafb.net/p/SpUBLT52.html <- thanks for your time :)
[10:29] <suzi> hi
[10:29] <Logit1> How do I fix my resolution :<
[10:29] <Perryman> oh yeah also i get errors on all drives
[10:29] <Jordan_U> illriginal: pretty much, yes, for the newest WMV vids you will need w32codecs also.
[10:29] <Perryman> sometimes when booting
[10:29] <frogzoo> Perryman: gparted's not necessary to fix this
[10:29] <Perryman> command time out to my sata drives
[10:29] <Perryman> ah
[10:29] <Jordan_U> !video
[10:29] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[10:29] <Perryman> whats the command to list drives?
[10:29] <Logit1> Will someone please assist me
[10:29] <TheSkorm>  df -H ?
[10:29] <Jordan_U> Perryman: fdisk -l
[10:29] <Perryman> ohh
[10:29] <Logit1> God, I'm about to go back to windows
[10:30] <Perryman> thanks
[10:30] <Logit1> Seriously
[10:30] <TheSkorm> Jordan_U got it
[10:30] <guregu> macd: quick question...after installing breezy earlier...I immediately upgraded....would those upgrades have essentially brought me up tp edgy eft...or is there more to it?
[10:30] <ademan> agliv5: you could try to sudo apt-get remove libglib-2.0   but that's just asking for trouble
[10:30] <zeifer> Logit1, Windows doesn't deserve recognition
[10:30] <frogzoo> Perryman: I do it this way 'for x in a b c d ; do sudo fdisk -l /dev/sd$x ; done'
[10:30] <Perryman> well, round 2
[10:30] <Perryman> ouch
[10:30] <macd> guregu, that would bring you upto speed, yes.
[10:30] <bartek> hello
[10:30] <cappiz> Hey bartek
[10:30] <ademan> agliv5: especially since everything probably depends on it anyways
[10:30] <Logit1> talk about such a hassle to get 2 simple things done
[10:30] <Logit1> Graphics and audio drivers installed, takes like 2 hours
[10:30] <mike__> XD
[10:30] <illriginal> swet
[10:30] <bartek> can someone give me a hint about cab files?
[10:31] <illriginal> sweet
[10:31] <ademan> so forget i even said that :-)
[10:31] <bartek> bartek@Voyager:~/sl$ unshield l data1.cab
[10:31] <bartek> Failed to open data1.cab as an InstallShield Cabinet File
[10:31] <illriginal> Thanks a lot Jordan
[10:31] <Perryman> i'm still pretty much a newb at this, but at least i can understand that command
[10:31] <TheSkorm> sweeet
[10:31] <Jordan_U> Logit1: What are you trying to do?
[10:31] <bartek> bartek@Voyager:~/sl$ file data1.cab
[10:31] <bartek> data1.cab: InstallShield CAB
[10:31] <Logit1> At least in windows I can get my drivers installed
[10:31] <Perryman> i'm booting safe gfx mode with noapic nolapic
[10:31] <bartek> how should I extract it ?
[10:31] <Logit1> Get my resolution set to 1680x1050 and install audio drivers
[10:31] <all4n> hi all, I've been trying to move my Ubuntu to another drive here. What I did was to boot up using live-cd and rsync from one drive to the other.. then I used grub to set the second drive as boot-drive (the old partition is to be totally removed), update fstab, mtab and menu.lst.. but now all the / folders are read-only file format..  any suggestions?  Might there be something wrong with my fstab?
[10:31] <cappiz> bartek, don't understand what you are asking about
[10:31] <Jordan_U> illriginal: The ubotu link explains everything very well.
[10:31] <guregu> macd: well, now I feel really bad because I just wasted your time...I was assuming upgrading to edgy eft was separate from the system upgrades I did
[10:31] <cappiz> bartek, windows driver will not work in linux as far as i know.
[10:31] <bartek> cappiz:: I want to extract cab file
[10:31] <illriginal> yeah im readin it righ tnow
[10:32] <zeifer> Logit1, you can do anything you want in linux, you must have patience and be willing to try.
[10:32] <TheSkorm> oh dera all4n
[10:32] <TheSkorm> dear
[10:32] <macd> ohh, guregu I misread, that just updated your breezy.
[10:32] <bartek> cappiz:: its not a driver, it's some kind of textual database
[10:32] <Logit1> Can someone assist me on how to get my resolution set
[10:32] <all4n> TheSkorm: that does not sound good..
[10:32] <macd> the updates depend on the repos, your repos were still breezy.
[10:32] <cappiz> apt-get install cabextract
[10:32] <ademan> Logit1: well do you have the nvidia drivers installed and working?
[10:32] <Jordan_U> Logit1: What card?
[10:32] <zeifer> What are you using Logit1 ? ATi? nVidia?
[10:32] <Logit1> nvidia
[10:32] <cappiz> bartek,apt-get install cabextract
[10:33] <TheSkorm> all4n : ive never treid such an idea, but there's proberly an easy solution to it
[10:33] <guregu> macd: ok gotcha...still need to upgrade.  Ok, thanks so much again.  I will try again soon here.  Goodnight!
[10:33] <incorrect> how do i install the restricted modules?
[10:33] <bartek> cappiz:: bartek@Voyager:~/sl$ cabextract data1.cab
[10:33] <bartek> data1.cab: WARNING; found InstallShield header. This is probably an InstallShield file. Use UNSHIELD (http://synce.sf.net) to unpack it.
[10:33] <zeifer> Logit1, did you get nvidia-glx?
[10:33] <Perryman> is there any known issue with install cds and SATA ?
[10:33] <macd> guregu, good luck with it ;)
[10:33] <Logit1> yeah
[10:33] <Logit1> it's just my resolution needs to be set
[10:33] <all4n> TheSkorm: Yeah, I hope it is in my fstab, but I am not entirely sure about the options for / in fstab.
[10:33] <cappiz> apt-get install unshield then!
[10:33] <Logit1> Don't know why it isn't working
[10:33] <zeifer> How about nvidia-glx-settings?
[10:33] <mike__> Logit1 : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:33] <Logit1> Tried it, dunno what's up
[10:34] <ademan> Logit1: if your nvidia drivers are set up correctly you can change your resoltuion from system->preferences-> screen resolution
[10:34] <Jordan_U> Logit1: Can you pastebin your xorg.conf?
[10:34] <Logit1> That didn't work ade
[10:34] <Logit1> How do I get my xorg.conf
[10:34] <cappiz> bartek, did you get it.
[10:34] <cappiz> ?
[10:34] <all4n> TheSkorm: the permissions all seem fine when I do ls -l in / though..  so it must be the way it is mounted
[10:34] <Jordan_U> Logit1: gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:34] <ademan> Logit1: what do you mean didn't work? didn't have the resolution you wanted? if it doesn't have the resolution you want, your drivers aren't setup correctly
[10:34] <TheSkorm> all4n : yes
[10:34] <agliv5> ademan: so by removing the previously installed package, I might kill my system?  What kind of damage are we talking about here?  Just Ubuntu reinstall or possible Harddrive data los?
[10:35] <zeifer> Aha!
[10:35] <Logit1> My drivers are installed it seems, but my resolution isn't set up correctly
[10:35] <frogzoo> Perryman: I gotta head, someone will get you up & running
[10:35] <TheSkorm> all4n : gimmie a second and ill do some looking
[10:35] <jdhoreotg> ahh! something bad is going on with my Ubuntu install!
[10:35] <illriginal> Jordan U
[10:35] <bartek> cappiz:: but I did istall unshield
[10:35] <zeifer> Logit1, what resolutions are in your xorg.conf?
[10:35] <Perryman> frogzoo: thanks for the help :)
[10:35] <illriginal> one more thing... .rar
[10:35] <illriginal> i can't open it
[10:35] <Perryman> always good to learn
[10:35] <Logit1> Do I paste my entire xorg.conf here?
[10:35] <zeifer> No
[10:35] <bartek> cappiz:: it says Failed to open data1.cab as an InstallShield Cabinet File
[10:35] <frogzoo> !pastebin | Logit1
[10:35] <Jordan_U> !rar | illriginal
[10:35] <ubotu> illriginal: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[10:35] <ubotu> Logit1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:35] <macd> haha, if you want.
[10:35] <ademan> agliv5: ubuntu reinstall at worst, but if you do it through synaptic it will just say "the following packages depend on glib and will be removed too" and you'll be like "uh, heck no" and then we're back to square one :-)
[10:35] <macd> I'll just snicker off into the night.
[10:36] <TheSkorm> ok all4n, im running freebsd, but here is my line : /dev/idad0s1a           /               ufs     rw              1       1
[10:36] <Logit1> What do I set to syntax?
[10:36] <Jolyon> Hey ,
[10:36] <ademan> Logit1: doesn't matter, but plain text will be fine
[10:36] <TheSkorm> i gather rw is read write, make sure that is set
[10:36] <TheSkorm> and make sure the right device is selected
[10:36] <jdhoreotg> i tried to get Beryl working with AIGLX, so i enabled it in AIGLX and installed Beryl and it didn't work for me (apparently Beryl is not a big fan of dual-monitor) so i removed the AIGLX lines out of my xorg.conf, removed beryl and rebooted and now, i can't see the titlebar of any of my applications...please help
[10:36] <Perryman> oh livecd.... you boot sooo slowly... :)
[10:37] <cappiz> bartek, then i would try google.
[10:37] <Jolyon> I am a new member
[10:37] <Logit1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3809/
[10:37] <all4n> TheSkorm: thanks, I'll look into it
[10:37] <agliv5> ademan: If I mess everything up, then it would be a good oppurtunity to install the newest version of ubuntu ;) so the command is sudo apt-get remove libglib-2.0 ?
[10:37] <all4n> TheSkorm: I think it might be the notail option I'm using.. the old partition is using reiserfs, while the new is ext3
[10:37] <bartek> cappiz:: I wouldn't come here without googling first :))
[10:37] <Pelle_plutt> What X-server comes with Ubuntu? version?
[10:37] <ademan> agliv5: probably, i forgot the exact package name, gimme a sec
[10:37] <all4n> TheSkorm: so perhaps the notail option is for reiser only
[10:37] <cappiz> try google the errors you got.
[10:37] <ademan> Pelle_plutt: 7.1 comes with edgy
[10:38] <all4n> TheSkorm: anyhow.. I'll try using some of yours.. thanks
[10:38] <jdhoreotg> can someone help me???
[10:38] <zeifer> Logit1, which resolution are you aiming for?
[10:38] <Pelle_plutt> ademan, thanks :)
[10:38] <Logit1> 1680x1050
[10:38] <TheSkorm> all4n np, but remember its freebsd so i dunno how it matchs up
[10:38] <zeifer> Then why isn't it in your xorg.conf?
[10:38] <Perryman> what's the easiest way to get a terminal in the livecd?
[10:38] <Logit1> No idea
[10:38] <ademan> agliv5: ugh, who the heck names these packages? the one you want is libglib-2.0-0
[10:39] <zeifer> You see where you have 1024x768 in quotes?
[10:39] <Logit1> Yeah
[10:39] <TheSkorm> Perryman i belive there is a short cut
[10:39] <Perryman> control-alt-f2 gives me a messed up graphics key
[10:39] <zeifer> and 800 x 600 and so on.... you have to have your desired resolution written up in there.
[10:39] <ademan> agliv5: and who the heck taught me to type? it's actually libglib2.0-0
[10:39] <TheSkorm> or you can use ctrl + alt + f1
[10:39] <jdhoreotg> anyone? can anyone help me?? this is kind of an emergency
[10:39] <agliv5> ademan: wish me luck ;)
[10:39] <TheSkorm> or you can use ctrl + alt + f3
[10:39] <TheSkorm> may bee
[10:39] <ademan> agliv5: good luck :-)
[10:39] <Perryman> hmm
[10:39] <zeifer> jdhoreotg, what's up?
[10:39] <Perryman> when i do that
[10:39] <Perryman> i get the ubunto boot screen
[10:40] <Perryman> with some gfx artifacts
[10:40] <jdhoreotg> i tried to get Beryl working with AIGLX, so i enabled it in AIGLX and installed Beryl and it didn't work for me (apparently Beryl is not a big fan of dual-monitor) so i removed the AIGLX lines out of my xorg.conf, removed beryl and rebooted and now, i can't see the titlebar of any of my applications...please help
[10:40] <Perryman> and no term
[10:40] <jdhoreotg> there's the story, zeifer
[10:40] <ademan> jdhoreotg: try starting up the beryl manager again, and make sure you set metacity to your window manager (should be in that little tray icon)
[10:40] <macd> jdhoreotg, b/c you have no window manager running.
[10:41] <agliv5> ademan: I've got to go the doctors now, but I'll be back soon and let you know what happened :)  Thanks alot for your assistance so far ;)
[10:41] <Perryman> anyway i can chance the shortcut key to get a terminal running
[10:41] <jdhoreotg> i uninstalled Beryl-manager already
[10:41] <Logit1> zeifer: how do I go about editing it?
[10:41] <zeifer> Interesting situation jdhoreotg I can't say as I've ever seen that happen before.
[10:41] <zeifer> Have screenshots available, jdhoreotg ?
[10:41] <Dh3Y0> hi
[10:41] <Dh3Y0> how do i install xmms
[10:41] <jdhoreotg> and i think i'm in Metacity...since i have the upper and lower Gnmoe "taskbars"
[10:41] <ademan> agliv5: haha well good luck with both of those things, i hope i've actually helped
[10:41] <zeifer> Dh3Y0, apt-get install xmms
[10:42] <Logit1> zeifer: yo man
[10:42] <Dh3Y0> :S
[10:42] <zeifer> Yes Logit1 ?
[10:42] <Logit1> zeifer: how do I edit the xorg.conf so I can put my res in there
[10:42] <jdhoreotg> i can't screenshot...it's not letting me
[10:42] <ademan> jdhoreotg: well really if metacity was working i'm pretty sure you'd have your window borders, though in the meantime alt+drag should be able to move windows
[10:42] <ademan> jdhoreotg: if you can't alt+drag, metacity definitely isn't up
[10:42] <jdhoreotg> nope, alt+drag not working
[10:43] <jdhoreotg> so how would i get metacity up from here?
[10:43] <TheSkorm> jdhoreotg open up a terminal and run "metacity &"
[10:43] <nikko> hi... I have docked my laptop, but my external monitor do not work. I have to press fn-F4, but still nothing happens... do I have to change something in xorg.conf or what?
[10:43] <zeifer> Logit1, you need to access it by way of super-user or sudo (editor) (filepath)
[10:43] <nikko> please.....someone.......
[10:43] <Logit1> D:
[10:43] <jdhoreotg> wow...i can't believe it was that easy
[10:43] <Logit1> this is so confusing
[10:43] <ademan> nikko: restarting your xorg (ctrl+alt+backspace) should work
[10:43] <Logit1> i can't see why people choose this over windows
[10:44] <TheSkorm> jdhoreotg you need to add somewhere in oyur configs or scripts to run "metacity &"
[10:44] <jdhoreotg> from now on should Metacity be running by default or will i have to reenable it like that on every reboot?
[10:44] <all4n> TheSkorm: hey, I'm back... it worked. notail was definatly not a good idea for ext3.  :)  so now I'm in X already, and things seem fine
[10:44] <TheSkorm> all4n awsome
[10:44] <ademan> jdhoreotg: hard to say, by the way, the beryl-manager isn't added to your session startups is it?
[10:44] <all4n> TheSkorm: yeah..  lotsa more space on root :)
[10:45] <zeifer> Logit1, check IRC tabs
[10:45] <NoEvidenZ> Man..I feel so leet..
[10:45] <nikko> no... it doesnt work....
[10:45] <Perryman> what terminal does it use? bash?
[10:45] <jdhoreotg> ademan, nope
[10:45] <Perryman> attempting to run it from the /
[10:45] <TheSkorm> 90% of my space is taking up my family photo's web site and downloads
[10:45] <TheSkorm> i do my torrenting on my server
[10:45] <jdhoreotg> ahh...i have so much crap on this Ubuntu install that i REALLY should just reinstall and clean it out...hell, i've got 2 kernels sorta installed...just a ton of crap
[10:46] <jdhoreotg> would you all recommend me going to Fiesty or should i just stay with Edgy?
[10:46] <suzi> where can i get a good torrent downloader for breezy
[10:46] <ademan> jdhoreotg: so your lack of window borders was after a reboot? or just after turning off beryl?
[10:46] <TheSkorm> we;;, im using vncservver now on my server and its like my mobile desktop, i can vnc in from anywhere and its how i left it
[10:46] <TheSkorm> i just themed it with gnome and that to look os x ish
[10:47] <Logit1> !resolution
[10:47] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:47] <nikko> When I boot my mashine, there is no problem, I can see the text on my external monitor, but when the X is started, there is only a lot of random-colors on my external monitor
[10:47] <jdhoreotg> ademan, after a reboot after turning off and uninstalling beryl
[10:47] <Perryman> oh
[10:47] <Perryman> accessories / terminal
[10:47] <Perryman> excellent
[10:47] <Perryman> now i'm on the fast track
[10:47] <ademan> jdhoreotg: ah, well maybe you should double check that metacity is still in your session startup stuff
[10:48] <fotoflo_> hmm i just downloaded a client for a chinese DDNS provider and they provide binaries for fedora, redhat, suse, and freeBSD, none of those will work on ubuntu, right?
[10:48] <jdhoreotg> in system-preferences-sessions-startup stuff?
[10:48] <persen> How can i make the text/windowframes not so huge? I want them thin and elegant, not big and bulky.
[10:48] <ademan> jdhoreotg: yep
[10:48] <jdhoreotg> just checked, no beryl, no metacity
[10:48] <TheSkorm> fotoflo_ : most likely not
[10:48] <fotoflo_> which one is most likely to work?
[10:48] <suzi> fuckers
[10:48] <fotoflo_> fedora
[10:48] <fotoflo_> ?
[10:48] <TheSkorm> fotoflo_ : but there are ways of getting rehat / fedora binarys working, i cant remeber how
[10:48] <Perryman> sdb2 is my install dir
[10:48] <NoEvidenZ> Oh man.. I'm so in love!
[10:48] <ademan> jdhoreotg: yeah i don't have metacity in mine either, so i guess i was wrong
[10:49] <Logit1> !resolution
[10:49] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:49] <jdhoreotg> ahh...ok
[10:49] <ademan> persen: System->preferences->themes you can select different window borders, gnome-look.org has a wealth of alternative window borders to install
[10:49] <Logit1> zeifer: ugh
[10:49] <ademan> jdhoreotg: i suppose you might consider restarting just to see if its actually a problem or not
[10:49] <jdhoreotg> ademan, i'm thinking of reinstalling Ubuntu anyway, do you think i should go with Fiesty or stick with Edgy?
[10:50] <fotoflo_> those skankbutts :-(
[10:50] <jdhoreotg> i restarted like 3 times after the problem started
[10:50] <zeifer> Logit1, I can explain everything in greater detail in private chat. No clutter that way.
[10:50] <ademan> jdhoreotg: well i definitely wouldn't install fiesty in its current state, but if you're considering waiting for fiesty release, that doesn't sound like a bad plan
[10:50] <jdhoreotg> ahh...ok
[10:50] <fotoflo_> hey cool
[10:50] <fotoflo_> it worked
[10:50] <fotoflo_> !
[10:50] <illriginal> how do I associate only music files with amarok? i click on an mp3 or wav file and totem tries to play them..
[10:51] <jdhoreotg> thanks ademan
[10:51] <ademan> np
[10:51] <zeifer> illriginal, try right-clicking and open with or use amarok to import them.
[10:51] <NoEvidenZ> I just discovered Irssi, I feel so invincible.
[10:51] <famicommie> irssi is great
[10:51] <Perryman> root is listed as hd0,0 but it's actually hd1,1???
[10:51] <illriginal> and that should automatically make all mp3 and wac format to work with amarok, yes?
[10:51] <NoEvidenZ> 'Course it's all gonna go to hell soon, but I'm in love for the moment.
[10:51] <famicommie> Use gay.pl and dau.pl with it.
[10:52] <TheSkorm> NoEvidenZ woot
[10:52] <TheSkorm> its teh win
[10:52] <zeifer> I'm guessing you don't have the codecs installed for MP3 playback.
[10:52] <famicommie> I can do fun stuff with irssi!
[10:52] <zeifer> And I don't know about wac... never encountered that one before.
[10:52] <Perryman> do i need to change default grub root device?
[10:52] <NoEvidenZ> I finally got my windows - linux network bridge working. I'm all "YEY!" But i have to poop.
[10:52] <kenthomson> HI i need some help
[10:52] <NoEvidenZ> That's how excited I am.
[10:52] <NoEvidenZ> So I'll tell you all about it when I get back.
[10:53] <Logit1> Can someone PLEASE help me out with my res issue
[10:53] <Logit1> I'm still trying to find out what's up with it
[10:53] <TheSkorm> http://www.pastebin.ca/336860 <-irssi scripts i use NoEvidenZ
[10:53] <kenthomson> I am going to go look a LCD 19-inch 1440x900, Samsung syncmaster monitor today. And i am going to test it by plugging my Ubuntu box before buying it, so my questions is once i connect this new monitor will ubuntu automatically detect it or will i get a x server error? Someone please help. I am on U.6.10
[10:53] <zeifer> Logit1, I've already told you. You don't have your resolution written into xorg.conf if it isn't there it isn't going to be an option.
[10:54] <persen> hm, anyone know if sun's java for linux is slower than its windows counterpart?
[10:55] <zeifer> persen, haven't noticed any difference, myself.
[10:55] <Perryman> anyone familiar with grub config pains? i get error 22
[10:55] <persen> eclipse runs slowly :/
[10:55] <mdeboer> kenthomson: even if it does not work out of the box, running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  should be trivial
[10:56] <zeifer> Perryman, I don't know about how anybody else feels about it here, but to me, GRUB is the 9th wonder of the universe.
[10:56] <zarul> anyone here running eric?
[10:56] <[StingRay] > Can somebody try something with ubuntu 6.10 and any wine application that accepts input for me?
[10:57] <zithowa> hi, i'm having a very strange issue trying to boot into any form of ubuntu.  however, I can boot into windows
[10:57] <TheSkorm> [StingRay]  what?
[10:57] <Logit1> Woohoo!
[10:57] <zeifer> [StingRay] , if I had wine, that might be a possibility....
[10:57] <Logit1> I got my res working :)
[10:57] <zeifer> Logit1, Good for you.
[10:57] <Bug2000> Anyone got an idea why I can't install wine?
[10:57] <Perryman> yeah i can boot windows
[10:57] <Logit1> Now to tackle the whole "audio" drivers thing
[10:57] <Perryman> heh
[10:57] <TheSkorm> zeifer apt-get install wine
[10:57] <zithowa> i have been running ubuntu for 6 months without a problem.  i just restarted my machine, and now I get a blank screen right after it says 'loading kernel.'
[10:57] <tsurc> hi I'm having problems whith apt
[10:58] <Logit1> zeifer: If I have an Audigy 2 ZS, where would I get the drivers?
[10:58] <[StingRay] > TheSkorm, I want you to do this xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.bg and then check if you can type comma (,) in the wine app? Do you see a commap printed?
[10:58] <Bug2000> It claims there is no package installation for wine.
[10:58] <zeifer> Logit1, did sound work out of the box?
[10:58] <TheSkorm> oh wait
[10:58] <Logit1> zeifer: nope
[10:58] <TheSkorm> [StingRay]  i cant, im not in ubuntu right now... grr
[10:58] <[StingRay] > thanks TheSkorm!
[10:58] <zeifer> What distro are you running?
[10:59] <Logit1> zeifer: 6.10
[10:59] <TheSkorm> i thought i was but its just me vncing to my freebsd box
[10:59] <Solidad> Hello how to creat socks 5/4? So i could use the socks in windowsxp browsing net?
[10:59] <TheSkorm> tjat looks all nice a pretty and ubntuish
[10:59] <zithowa> does anyone have an idea about what could be wrong?  maybe there is some diagnostic?
[10:59] <TheSkorm> that
[10:59] <zeifer> And it didn't play any sound at all... ever:?
[10:59] <IamUnique> Question: WIll ubuntu 7 come with Beryl or Compiz? by default
[10:59] <zarul> anyone here running eric?
[10:59] <NoEvidenZ> Would I be able to
[10:59] <Logit1> zeifer: I don't think so, how can I check
[11:00] <NoEvidenZ> Hrm.. Is there a way to use a list of package names and make the computer apt-get each one individually each half hour?
[11:00] <Logit1> zeifer: No, it's playing stuff from the comptuer's speaker
[11:00] <[StingRay] > Anobody else with 6.10 and wine application which accepts input :( ?
[11:00] <Logit1> zeifer: How can I get the audigy 2 zs drivers?
[11:00] <Perryman> well, i guess i'll read up on grub conf
[11:01] <NoEvidenZ> Anyone..?
[11:01] <zeifer> Ok Logit1 , check out System --> Preferences --> Sound and let me know if you can hear anything from either your sound system or a pair of headphones.
[11:01] <zeifer> If you're running a GNOME based version, anyways.
[11:01] <Solidad> Hello how to creat socks 5/4 in ubuntu? So i could use the socks in windowsxp browsing net?
[11:02] <Logit1> zeifer: Nope
[11:02] <Logit1> zeifer: Nno go
[11:02] <zeifer> What is each category set to? Autodetect or other?
[11:03] <thekitster> for a PIII laptop with 256 Ram which is faster Gnome or KDE?
[11:03] <IamUnique> Question: Will ubuntu 7 come with Beryl or Compiz? by default
[11:03] <Logit1> Wait
[11:03] <Logit1> zeifer: Sec
[11:03] <fotoflo_> if i want to make it so that i have a program run at start up, how do i do that?
[11:04] <my_> i need help
[11:04] <my_> imma grade a loser
[11:04] <NoEvidenZ> fotoflo_: System -> Preferences -> Sessions
[11:04] <Logit1> zeifer: Okay sound is playing now, it seems low though, I messed with the master volume in the top right with no improvement
[11:05] <NoEvidenZ> fotoflo_: Click the Startup Programs tab and enter the program there.
[11:05] <zeifer> Logit1, might want to make sure that other (ANALOG) channels are maxed out.
[11:05] <Logit1> zeifer: how so
[11:06] <zeifer> Double click on the speaker icon up there where you adjusted your volume and you'll get the volume control
[11:06] <my_> laptops and ubuntu suk dik
[11:06] <cantik> dalnet
[11:06] <fotoflo_> NoEvidenZ, uhm that doesnt look right
[11:06] <fotoflo_> NoEvidenZ, it should have a lot more stuff in it
[11:07] <tsurc> does any one know anything about setting up your own repositories?
[11:07] <fotoflo_> NoEvidenZ, if i log out, that stuff will be killed, right?
[11:07] <mike__> k
[11:07] <Logit1> zeifer: what does pcmmean
[11:07] <TheSkorm> PACMAN
[11:07] <zeifer> I can't say as I know that yet.
[11:07] <NoEvidenZ> fotoflo_: I might be wrong, but that's how I added beryl manager to startup.
[11:08] <fotoflo_> NoEvidenZ, ok
[11:08] <Logit1> ok
[11:08] <zeifer> What all can you see?
[11:08] <fotoflo_> NoEvidenZ, i think i should be using inetd or something, but im not sure how or what
[11:09] <Perryman> error loading operating system
[11:09] <Logit1> zeifer: When I hook up an external USB drive, how do I explore it's contents
[11:09] <zeifer> 6.10 auto mounts USB drives
[11:09] <NoEvidenZ> fotoflo_: What are you trying to make start up?
[11:09] <fotoflo_> a DDNS client
[11:09] <Logit1> zeifer: Okay, got it, nevermind
[11:09] <Logit1> zeifer: Is there anyway to sort by detail like in XP instead of folders?
[11:10] <Logit1> zeifer: Nevermind again :)
[11:10] <NoEvidenZ> fotoflo_: You're well beyond me. I'm a complete Linux newbie. But just typing it in there worked for me..
[11:10] <fotoflo_> ok,
[11:10] <fotoflo_>  well that will work as a temporary solutionm
[11:11] <values> hello, I have a problem with audio input in Ubuntu 6.10
[11:11] <NoEvidenZ> fotoflo_: Just ask around here, don't settle for the temporary solution, becuase you never rememger to get the permanent one.
[11:11] <zeifer> Logit1, you'll do well with Ubuntu, it is one of the easiest distros I have come across so far and both my laptop and desktop are running it flawlessly. :)
[11:11] <arn_> Hello guys!
[11:11] <AnisEstrellado> hi All .Do you know if it's possible to add a second ip adress to a network card ?
[11:11] <Logit1> zeifer: So how do I play MP3's? It won't seem to let me
[11:12] <zeifer> The only suggestion I know of to correct that problem is something frowned upon by this channell.
[11:12] <fotoflo_> actully i need to get some books but they dont sell any Linux books in english where i live
[11:12] <NoEvidenZ> I wish I had a laptop.. I could take it to the can with me and read manpages while I take a dump..
[11:12] <Logit1> So you're saying I can't listen to MP3's?!
[11:12] <dr_zivago> Does anyone know how to configer Ekiga to work with msn messenger for VoIP ?
[11:12] <cantik> #ubuntu
[11:12] <Logit1> !mp3
[11:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:13] <fotoflo_> Logit1, sudo apt-get install xmms
[11:13] <NoEvidenZ> is there a way to limit the speed apt-get downloads at?
[11:13] <zeifer> fotoflo_, I've not known xmms to have native MP3 codec support.
[11:13] <TheSkorm> NoEvidenZ did you get my pastebin link?
[11:13] <snowkras1> hi
[11:13] <snowkras1> ubuntu is fun
[11:13] <NoEvidenZ> TheSkorm: Nope, sorry.
[11:13] <TheSkorm> http://www.pastebin.ca/336860 <-irssi scripts i use NoEvidenZ
[11:13] <snowkras1> i wanted to install flash
[11:14] <snowkras1> didnt work
[11:14] <fotoflo_> zeifer, its workign for me
[11:14] <snowkras1> then i copied it manually
[11:14] <snowkras1> it worked
[11:14] <TheSkorm> i think you were in the iToliet
[11:14] <snowkras1> but i have a sounddriver issue
[11:14] <TheSkorm> when i said it
[11:14] <snowkras1> when i play a flash with sound
[11:14] <TheSkorm> :P
[11:14] <NoEvidenZ> TheSkorm: How do I copy in irssi? D:
[11:14] <snowkras1> the os sound doesnt work anymore
[11:14] <zeifer> Well, Logit1 You can try xmms and see how it works for you.
[11:14] <TheSkorm> uh you have to download the scripts first
[11:14] <snowkras1> cant play in amarok then
[11:14] <snowkras1> and other way alround too
[11:14] <Logit1> zeifer check the pm window
[11:14] <incorrect> has anyone else come across this error before when running fglrxinfo   Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0".
[11:14] <snowkras1> not very stabel
[11:14] <snowkras1> ble
[11:14] <TheSkorm> http://www.irssi.org/scripts/
[11:14] <TheSkorm> also has instructions
[11:15] <TheSkorm> all my scripts  came from there i think
[11:15] <NoEvidenZ> I'll go to the toilet first. >.<
[11:15] <TheSkorm> ok
[11:15] <mneptok> since when do you need scripts to cut and paste with gterm? ;)
[11:15] <cantik> #ubuntu
[11:15] <AnisEstrellado> hi All .Do you know if it's possible to add a second ip adress to a network card ?
[11:15] <AnisEstrellado> to have a double ip
[11:15] <AnisEstrellado> one from dhcp
[11:16] <AnisEstrellado> and one fixed
[11:16] <AnisEstrellado> ?
[11:16] <jhaig> AnisEstrellado: Yes, although I'm not entirely sure how to set it up.
[11:16] <zeifer> AnisEstrellado, please stop scrolling the channel. I see you there.
[11:16] <zeifer> Question is, why?
[11:16] <AnisEstrellado> scrolling ? :O
[11:16] <AnisEstrellado> i just need to do some tests with double ip
[11:16] <AnisEstrellado> on the same card
[11:17] <AnisEstrellado> need my pc be reachable from two different ip
[11:17] <Setomidor> does anyone have any idea why I get java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError one one machine, but not on the other when they're both mounting a common server, running the same script? This is driving me nuts, have been trying to sort this since yesterday :(
[11:17] <zeifer> It wouldn't necessarily be possible with only one card in the system.
[11:17] <felixhummel> hi
[11:17] <AnisEstrellado> it's strange ... xp does.
[11:18] <d2812> hey - i did an update of edgy - now i've lost my console resolution. I know i needed to add vga=XXX to menu.lst in grub, but I cant remember what value goes in XXX :)
[11:18] <Logit1> zeifer, do you have aim/msn? doesn't seem to be getting messages
[11:18] <zeifer> Ok, windoze user. How do you assign two ip addresses to a single card?
[11:18] <AnisEstrellado> you have to go in alternate config
[11:18] <jhaig> AnisEstrellado: This might be something useful - http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-10877_11-5590748.html
[11:18] <Logit1> Argh
[11:18] <cantik> #ubuntu
[11:18] <Logit1> Zeifer, do you have AIM or msn
[11:18] <AnisEstrellado> under netwok config
[11:18] <zeifer> Logit1, Yea
[11:19] <Logit1> What be it
[11:19] <Logit1> :P
[11:19] <zeifer> zeifertstc@hotmail.com
[11:20] <jhaig> AnisEstrellado: This one is specifically about Ubuntu: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/ubuntu-linux-creating-ethernet-alias-for-eth0-network-device.html
[11:20] <AnisEstrellado> thank you very much guys !
[11:22] <Kakarot6> lol :p
[11:22] <NoEvidenZ> Ok, back.
[11:23] <felixhummel> can u help me with vim here? in #vim no one seems to be active...
[11:24] <maxb_> felixhummel: It's always best to ask a specific question. That's more effective at attracting help.
[11:24] <maxb_> dromer: umm, scp?
[11:24] <Logit1> !skype
[11:24] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[11:24] <felixhummel> maxb_, alright
[11:24] <Perryman> !grub
[11:24] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:24] <NoEvidenZ> TheSkorm: Er.. WHat's with this pastebin thing? It's just a list of file names..
[11:25] <frogzoo> zeifer: create aliases, eth0:1 etc..
[11:25] <felixhummel> in VIM, what's the variable name of the currently open file / how can I access it in a command?
[11:25] <incorrect> #ubuntu-xgl
[11:25] <agliv5> ademan: back now and still running :) it says errors modifying scim-gtk2-immodule  E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:25] <incorrect> oops
[11:26] <frogzoo> Perryman: you get you root file system mounted?
[11:26] <felixhummel> in VIM, how do I map two commands to one key (i.e. write a bash script then execute it)?
[11:26] <bigb> hello. how can i make conky show my ip if i get connected through a router?
[11:26] <nothlit> dromer: if you have trouble with scp you can use sftp
[11:26] <maxb_> felixhummel: the variable is %
[11:27] <felixhummel> maxb_, and with it's path?
[11:27] <maxb_> oh, not sure
[11:27] <felixhummel> ;)
[11:28] <anAngel> Hello i have this kind of a problem: Sound recorder from applications-->Sound & Video menu isn't starting.The error message is: "Your audio capture settings are invalid. Please correct them in the Multimedia settings." where are these Multimedia settings?
[11:28] <frogzoo> anAngel: in dapper: sys -> prefs -> multimedia selector
[11:30] <anAngel> frogzoo: thanks very much :)
[11:30] <arn_> hi guys, i installed quanta. when i tried to run quanta the program didn't start. so i tried to remove that using "Add/Remove Applications" but that program is also sucked now. what should i do now?
[11:30] <Perryman> oh hi
[11:30] <Perryman> i pooched the setup
[11:30] <Perryman> but i was able to find out more about how to edit menu.lst
[11:31] <Perryman> mounting again
[11:32] <Perryman> .   /mnt is /dev/sdb2 is my root for ubuntu
[11:32] <dromer> nothlit: thnx, I got the file moved :)
[11:32] <lars__> \connect irc.homelien.no
[11:33] <frogzoo> Perryman: first, cat /mnt/boot/grub/device.map
[11:34] <Perryman> ok
[11:34] <Perryman> 0 sda 1 sdb 2 sdc
[11:34] <Perryman> so 1 is the one i want
[11:35] <arn_> Hello guys, my "add/remove application" program stucked, what should i do?
[11:35] <Perryman> 1,1 should be the one i want to boot from
[11:35] <frogzoo> Perryman: now gksudo gedit /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:36] <Perryman> gksudo?
[11:36] <Perryman> ok
[11:36] <NoEvidenZ> TheSkorm: Hey, are you there?
[11:36] <Perryman> # groot=(hd1,1)
[11:37] <frogzoo> Perryman: find the line #groot=...
[11:37] <Perryman> :)
[11:37] <Perryman> i do see # kopt_2_6=root=/dev/hda1 ro
[11:37] <Perryman> that seems wrong too
[11:37] <frogzoo> Perryman: the groot is correct
[11:38] <frogzoo> but the kopt is wrong...
[11:38] <frogzoo> Perryman: make that /dev/hdb1
[11:38] <Perryman> i was able to fix the groot but i don't know the kernel ops
[11:38] <Perryman> not sdb1?
[11:38] <Perryman> er sdb2?
[11:38] <frogzoo> Perryman: the groot was fine!! put it back
[11:39] <Perryman> so confused
[11:39] <Perryman> groot 0,0
[11:39] <frogzoo> Perryman: it's confusign groot=(hd1,1) is right
[11:39] <Rprp> ;o
[11:39] <Perryman> kopt root=/dev/sdb2 no?
[11:40] <meal3837> ok, so, I was playing around with xorg.conf trying to see if my computer was up to using beryl.  ever since I restarted gdm, I have had no sound. I reverted to my old xorg.conf setup, and still no sound
[11:40] <Perryman> or is it supposed to be /dev/hdb1
[11:40] <frogzoo> Perryman: # kopt_2_6=root=/dev/sdb2
[11:40] <Perryman> ok
[11:40] <Perryman> sorry
[11:41] <Perryman> i've set the boot options at 1,1
[11:41] <Perryman> windows is 2,0 which should also be correct
[11:41] <meal3837> brb, afk
[11:41] <jahid> hello guys, i had to restart my pc using "alt+ctrl+del". after restarting i am getting a message like this---- "Can't access tty; job control turned off". what should to do to bring my GUI back?
[11:42] <frogzoo> Perryman: you've changed groot & kopt? that's all we need for the moment...
[11:42] <Perryman> ok
[11:42] <TheSkorm> NoEvidenZ , sry about that, my x died, anyway, there a list of scripts i use
[11:42] <frogzoo> Perryman: save the file, then 'chroot /mnt'
[11:42] <TheSkorm> basiclly just goto the irssi script page and search there names
[11:42] <TheSkorm> and download and load them
[11:42] <TheSkorm> they are my recomendation for scripts you use
[11:43] <Perryman> ok
[11:43] <meal3837> back
[11:43] <Perryman> sudo update-grup
[11:43] <Perryman> ?
[11:43] <frogzoo> Perryman: yup
[11:43] <Brujah> moin
[11:43] <frogzoo> sudo update-grub
[11:44] <Perryman> errors
[11:44] <frogzoo> sudo update-grub
[11:44] <NoEvidenZ> TheSkorm: Oh, ok. So they're in /home/(username)/.irssi/scripts/whatever?
[11:44] <Brujah> Any jquery users here? How can I remove "revert:true" on th efly from a draggable?
[11:44] <Perryman> findfs unable to resolve uuid blah blah assuming /dev/hda1
[11:44] <meal3837> does anybody want to help me with my sound problem?
[11:44] <NoEvidenZ> Do i have to make .irssi, or is it just meant to be there? Because I don't see it...
[11:44] <Perryman> this error is probably caused by an invalid /etc/fstab
[11:45] <Perryman> sounds like it's not updating properly
[11:45] <frogzoo> Perryman: blkid |grep sdb2
[11:45] <jahid> please someone help me
[11:45] <frogzoo> !helpme | jahid
[11:45] <Perryman> ok
[11:45] <ubotu> jahid: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:45] <Perryman> no output
[11:46] <TheSkorm> NoEvidenZ proberly have to make it
[11:46] <[2Fun4Me] > Hi, I am totally new to Ubuntu, and Linux, and probably a bit stupid ;-) I would like to know if anyone can point me in a working direction, perhaps an URL,  to get my laptop to connect to my Wireless Lan using WPA-PSK. The links I have found so far doesn't give me any connections :-(
[11:46] <NoEvidenZ> TheSkorm: Here I was thinking I'd done something wrong because I had directories missing. How dare you panic me so?!
[11:46] <Tomcat_> [2Fun4Me] : What network card?
[11:47] <frogzoo> Perryman: try just 'blkid' - do you get a UUID for sdb2 ?
[11:47] <NoEvidenZ> !wifi > [2Fun4Me] 
[11:47] <TheSkorm> sorry for my lack of reply time
[11:47] <Vigo> What link excplains how to re-install Ubuntu 6.10?
[11:47] <jahid> i had to force shutdown  my PC forcefully by pressing "Alt+ctrl+del". now the PC started in terminal, but GUI is not coming
[11:47] <[2Fun4Me] > Intel wireless in a Dell D600
[11:47] <Perryman> negative
[11:47] <TheSkorm> im busy haivng fun with my gnome
[11:47] <Perryman> no outputs
[11:47] <Tomcat_> [2Fun4Me] : Intel wireless is good... install NetworkManager. This will do everything for you easily.
[11:47] <jahid> How can i bring it back?
[11:47] <TheSkorm> i havnt used x in 2 years
[11:47] <NoEvidenZ> TheSkorm: My last install of Ubuntu had the nvidia module crashing every time I started up
[11:47] <[2Fun4Me] > Tomcat: Thanks Unfortunattely I have to switch between Windws and Ubuntu to test it....
[11:47] <TheSkorm> oh wow, that sounds useful
[11:48] <Perryman> it doesnt seem to do anything when i do that command
[11:48] <NoEvidenZ> Yeah, every time I started up I had to kill it then reload it then restart gdm
[11:48] <meal3837> my sound is broke, anyone wanna help?
[11:48] <NoEvidenZ> I figured out how to get it to work, but never figured out how to fix it entirely.
[11:48] <frogzoo> Perryman: so the partition doesn't have a UUID (dunno why) - so we need to give it one
[11:49] <Perryman> weird
[11:49] <Perryman> i have no idea what any of that means
[11:49] <Lynoure> meal3837: Any idea what broke it? (that is, what did you change?)
[11:49] <TheSkorm> i have nautilus, how do i stop it opening a new window each time i click an item, i have no idea why i cant work this out myself
[11:49] <TheSkorm> must be something simple
[11:49] <meal3837> Lynoure: I was tooling around with xorg.conf, then restarted gnome, and since then no sound
[11:50] <meal3837> Lynoure:but I have since restored the old conf file
[11:51] <Lynoure> meal3837: hmm, that sounds unusual.
[11:51] <meal3837> Lynoure: I wouldn't put it past this hardware to crap out randomly, it's 8 years old
[11:51] <agwibowo> hello ... can anyone tell me how i can increase my screen resolution? currently i only have 640x480 listed under the resolution tab...
[11:51] <meal3837> Lynoure: but it sounds more like a software thing
[11:52] <Perryman> so, how do i assign a uuid?
[11:52] <Lynoure> meal3837: If I recall, there is not even sound things in xorg.conf
[11:52] <frogzoo> Perryman: sudo tune2fs -U random /dev/hdb2
[11:52] <derjoerg> hello everybody
[11:52] <meal3837> agwibowo: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:52] <SamArthurAllen> hi Dr. derjoerg
[11:52] <meal3837> Lynoure: that is very correct, which is why this is so weird
[11:53] <NoEvidenZ> Hrm..
[11:53] <agwibowo> meal3837; it says xserver-org is not installed or no info available
[11:54] <Perryman> ok
[11:54] <Perryman> done
[11:54] <meal3837> :agwibowo: xserver-xorg?
[11:54] <frogzoo> Perryman: blkid |grep sdb2
[11:54] <meal3837> agwibowo: 2 x's
[11:54] <agwibowo> meal3837: oh sorry.. hang on a min
[11:55] <agwibowo> meal3837: umm.. what should i choose for the driver?
[11:55] <Perryman> nothing
[11:55] <agwibowo> meal3837: vga?
[11:55] <frogzoo> Perryman: argh..
[11:55] <Perryman> the tune2fs command went through but blkid doesn't show any uuid
[11:55] <meal3837> agwibowo: what's your hardware?
[11:55] <agwibowo> meal3837:its a built in video card
[11:55] <meal3837> agwibowo: most of the time, it's ok to leave it where it's set
[11:55] <Perryman> should i swap random with the uuid in the menu.lst
[11:56] <meal3837> agwibowo: you don't have to worry about changing things till the end
[11:57] <meal3837> agwibowo: it'll give you a choice between easy medium and advanced,  I usually choose medium, but you choose what you're comfy with
[11:57] <frogzoo> Perryman: k, well edit both /boot/grub/menu.lst & /etc/fstab  & swap the UUID=#### for /dev/sdb2
[11:57] <fuoco> what can i use, apart from samba, to share files between ubuntu and OS X easily ?
[11:57] <Perryman> ok
[11:57] <Perryman> if i su root can i use the gui and save files?
[11:57] <meal3837> brb
[11:57] <Perryman> its rather annoying to have to command line everything
[11:57] <NoEvidenZ> When I try to use 'make' the terminal spits out a bunch of things about undefined somethings.
[11:57] <nothlit> !ifolder
[11:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ifolder - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:58] <TheSkorm> !ipod
[11:58] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[11:58] <nothlit> Perryman: you can do alt+f2 gksudo nautilus... but learning the command line is a good thing
[11:58] <agwibowo> meal3837: argh.. this is beyond my comprehension
[11:58] <frogzoo> Perryman: so in menu.lst you get: # kopt=root=/dev/sdb2 ro quiet splash
[11:58] <NoEvidenZ> !make
[11:58] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:58] <nothlit> Perryman: its also safer
[11:58] <Perryman> whats the dif between gksudo and sudo?
[11:58] <frogzoo> Perryman: Perryman gksudo is for gui apps
[11:58] <Perryman> ah ok
[11:58] <Perryman> i suppose i can do that
[11:58] <Perryman> since i know its gedit now
[11:59] <agwibowo> isnt there any way to configure xorg.conf directly to load higher screen resolution?
[11:59] <meal3837> agwibowo: how far did you get?
[12:00] <Perryman> gtk warning cannot open display
[12:00] <Perryman> heh
[12:00] <Perryman> how do i chroot back to original?
[12:00] <frogzoo> agwibowo: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:00] <Perryman> what is the memory disk?
[12:00] <Perryman> ./dev something
[12:00] <frogzoo> Perryman: just open a new terminal, that's not chrooted
[12:00] <agwibowo> meal3837: i interrupted it... i cant understand them
[12:00] <Perryman> ooh
[12:00] <Perryman> sneaky
[12:00] <meal3837> agwibowo: you can run sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, if you're ok with editing the conf file by hand
[12:00] <krel> hmm
[12:01] <agwibowo> meal3837: which section do i need to change?
[12:01] <meal3837> just a sec
[12:01] <krel> is there a way to script a change in SSID, so I don't need to go into network manager every time I change from one SSID to another?
[12:01] <Perryman> crash
[12:01] <agwibowo> it says default depth is 24, and clearly at that depth, i have higher resolution than 640x480 listed
[12:01] <krel> specifically, to change the SSID via cli.
[12:01] <Perryman> something about protocols specified
[12:01] <Perryman> rebooting
[12:01] <agwibowo> i dont understand why they are not listed under gnome resolution setting
[12:01] <frogzoo> Perryman: grr
[12:02] <Perryman> oh i feel your pain
[12:02] <krel> Assuming both wireless networks require no authentication.
[12:02] <frogzoo> Perryman: stop it at the grub prompt
[12:02] <frogzoo> Perryman: hit 'e'
[12:02] <Perryman> what is /etc/fstab?
[12:02] <frogzoo> !fstab
[12:02] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[12:02] <meal3837> agwibowo: under the "screen" section, you should just be able to add in new resolutions
[12:03] <Perryman> aha
[12:03] <Perryman> when do i hit e?
[12:03] <agwibowo> i already have them there.. but still they are not listed in gnome resolution dialog box
[12:03] <frogzoo> Perryman: oh you're booting the cd?
[12:03] <meal3837> agwibowo: it lists depths and then at the depth you want, just add in a new res
[12:03] <Perryman> i have two cds
[12:03] <meal3837> agwibowo: really? weird
[12:03] <Perryman> alt cd and gui cd
[12:04] <Perryman> booting gui atm
[12:04] <agwibowo> i'll try lower depth
[12:04] <fuligin> hi everyone
[12:04] <meal3837> agwibowo: what res are you going for?
[12:04] <agwibowo> meal3837: 24
[12:05] <agwibowo> i mean, 1024 x 768
[12:05] <Perryman> oh i see
[12:05] <Perryman> you wanted me to try to get grub to run
[12:05] <Perryman> sorry
[12:05] <rpv> hi all
[12:05] <frogzoo> Perryman: either/or is cool
[12:05] <bluefox83> ok, how do i force an unmount of an nfs share? sudo umount reported that the device was busy
[12:05] <meal3837> agwibowo: in xorg.conf, "screen", depth: 24 what does mode say?
[12:05] <Perryman> well, this is slower, but it's half way done anyway
[12:06] <Perryman> its been a long 2 1/2 days of installing :)
[12:06] <Perryman> but i am learning
[12:06] <agwibowo> "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
[12:06] <gary> What's octal for: a+r ?
[12:06] <Perryman> and fortunate enough to have a laptop to use at the same time
[12:06] <frogzoo> Perryman: 1st time can be difficult sometimes
[12:06] <NoEvidenZ> Why does make give me an error.. Something to do with ncurses
[12:06] <Perryman> yeah... i've done other distros
[12:06] <Perryman> but i couldnt get into them enough
[12:07] <Hellevator> has anyone gotten netbeans5.5 to work with java6?
[12:07] <Perryman> this one seems more suitable for me
[12:07] <meal3837> agwibowo: and you just have 640x480 in the dialog?
[12:07] <frogzoo> Perryman: just the ubuntu installer is broken for multiple hds
[12:07] <Perryman> oh
[12:07] <TheSkorm> nibbles at high speed is so fucking hard
[12:07] <agwibowo> yes
[12:07] <Perryman> so it's a known issue?
[12:07] <TheSkorm> fun though
[12:07] <Perryman> that's odd
[12:07] <frogzoo> Perryman: yep
[12:07] <bluefox83> oh shiz :X umount -f wont unmount my nfs share either :O
[12:07] <nothlit> !ohmy | TheSkorm
[12:07] <ubotu> TheSkorm: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:07] <Perryman> is it the same way in 6.06?
[12:07] <felixhummel> what's the BASH-variable for current clipboard content?
[12:08] <meal3837> agwibowo: what other depths and modes do you have listed?
[12:08] <nothlit> felixhummel: ? its an X thing, not a bash thing
[12:08] <K3rl0u4rn> dear people, I have an audio CD which does not make an icon appear on the desktop so I can't listen to it. I decided to build an image but cat /dev/cdrom does not work either complaining of input / output error
[12:08] <K3rl0u4rn> what heppens ?
[12:08] <NoEvidenZ> Can anyone help me solve my problem with 'make'? It keeps spitting out some error with ncurses.h
[12:08] <agwibowo> 16, 8, etc
[12:08] <rowanjl> hey, I'm trying to install from a Ubuntu 6.10 64 bit CD, but the boot up screens are all grey with strange artifacts, and it can't boot X. What should I do?
[12:08] <meal3837> all with the same modes?
[12:08] <TheSkorm> K3rl0u4rn bad disc maybe?
[12:08] <frogzoo> K3rl0u4rn: don't think cat /dev/cdrom works for audio
[12:09] <NoEvidenZ> rowanjl: Try getting the Alternate CD.
[12:09] <TheSkorm> why not frogzoo
[12:09] <Perryman> ok, gui loading. momentarily here...
[12:09] <K3rl0u4rn> TheSkorm: It is ok in a hifi
[12:09] <frogzoo> TheSkorm: something about the format of audio cds
[12:09] <gary> Does anyone know what octal is for: a+r ?
[12:09] <felixhummel> nothlit, no way to get the clipboard content into my little bash scripts?
[12:09] <K3rl0u4rn> frogzoo: how should I do
[12:09] <rowanjl> NoEvidenZ: Alternate CD?
[12:09] <fatbrain> Hello, can I create a spanning dynamic disk? I have tow 500gb disks that I want to show up as one 1tb disk.
[12:09] <frogzoo> K3rl0u4rn: you trying to play or copy?
[12:09] <felixhummel> gary, 100
[12:10] <nothlit> felixhummel: there might be
[12:10] <K3rl0u4rn> frogzoo: play at first but get a copy would be better
[12:10] <NoEvidenZ> rowanjl: Actually, I couldn't get 6.10 to work on my PC
[12:10] <Perryman> make me a sandwich
[12:10] <meal3837> agwibowo: do all the dpeths have the same modes?
[12:10] <rowanjl> NoEvidenZ: found the alternate CD :)
[12:10] <felixhummel> gary, please forget it
[12:10] <Perryman> sudo make me a sandwich
[12:10] <felixhummel> i'm not sure
[12:10] <nothlit> felixhummel: but the last util i remember is kinda dead and theres no package for it i don't think
[12:10] <agwibowo> yeah
[12:10] <K3rl0u4rn> Perryman:  :) :)
[12:10] <frogzoo> K3rl0u4rn: use k3b to copy it
[12:10] <rowanjl> NoEvidenZ: I'd bet it's because I chose the 64 bit version.
[12:10] <NoEvidenZ> rowanjl: I couldn't get either the Alternate or the Desktop cd to boot on my amd64
[12:10] <Perryman> i want that shirt
[12:10] <gary> felixhummel: forget it?
[12:10] <rowanjl> hmm
[12:10] <frogzoo> K3rl0u4rn: I'd recommend audacious or amarok to play it
[12:10] <meal3837> brb
[12:11] <Perryman> now that i finally (as of yesterday) understand the joke
[12:11] <K3rl0u4rn> frogzoo: ok, I gonna look at those softwares, thank you
[12:11] <NoEvidenZ> rowanjl: My friend uses an amd64 chip but he's running the i386 version. If the alternate cd doesn't work for you, try that. There's a problem with the flash plugins in 64bit anyway, so you might be better off playing with the 32bit one.
[12:11] <rowanjl> I'll download that, but I'd like to try and get things working of this CD, because it takes 6 hours to download a CD...
[12:12] <Perryman> authentication rejected
[12:12] <frogzoo> Perryman: boots up?
[12:12] <rowanjl> ok
[12:12] <Daemonic> it's safe to wipe out /var/cache/apt/archives, right?
[12:12] <Perryman> yeah i got into the livecd
[12:12] <rowanjl> flash9 doesn't work?
[12:12] <Perryman> editing the files now
[12:12] <nothlit> dangan: yeah but use the clean command from apt-get/aptitude :P
[12:12] <nothlit> Daemonic: yeah but use the clean command from apt-get/aptitude :P
[12:13] <dangan> lol
[12:13] <NoEvidenZ> rowanjl: Something about the flash/shockwave plugin in FIrefox, it doesn't natively support the 64bit systems. I've read that you can get around it, but if you're new to linux you might as well got 32 bit for the moment.
[12:13] <Perryman> i have menu.lst and fstab open now
[12:13] <rowanjl> I'm not new, but I still don't feel like messing around :P
[12:13] <NoEvidenZ> Go 32bit then.
[12:13] <frogzoo> in fstab, should look something like '/dev/sdb2       /     ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro,noatime 0       1
[12:13] <felixhummel> gary, I was totally wrong. a+r is 444 (r=4,w=2,x=1; in order UGO)
[12:13] <rowanjl> Alright, thanks
[12:14] <frogzoo> Perryman: in fstab, should look something like '/dev/sdb2       /     ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro,noatime 0       1
[12:14] <Perryman> fstab is "unionfs / unuinfs rw 0 0  /// tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nosuid,nodev 0 0
[12:14] <frogzoo> Perryman: you're editing /etc/fstab -- pls edit /mnt/etc/fstab
[12:14] <gary> felixhummel: thanks
[12:14] <Perryman> oops :)
[12:14] <felixhummel> glad to help
[12:15] <Perryman> much better
[12:15] <meal3837> agwibowo: DefaultDepth is 24?
[12:16] <Daemonic> what package do I need to deal with .rar archives
[12:16] <Daemonic> ?
[12:16] <Perryman> ok i see /dev/sdb2 uuid=blah
[12:16] <felixhummel> Daemonic, rar and unrar
[12:16] <felixhummel> :P
[12:17] <Daemonic> hmm.. so I can apt-get rar? =P
[12:17] <Perryman> the uuids seem to match
[12:17] <felixhummel> Daemonic, sudo apt-get install rar unrar
[12:17] <Daemonic> ohh snap
[12:17] <frogzoo> Perryman: that's actually "#/dev/sdb    <CR>UUID=...." yes?
[12:17] <Daemonic> easy
[12:17] <felixhummel> =)
[12:17] <Daemonic> =D
[12:17] <felixhummel> HF
[12:17] <Perryman> yes
[12:18] <Perryman> frogzoo: yes
[12:18] <frogzoo> Perryman: ignore the comment, the next line should look something like '/dev/sdb2       /     ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro,noatime 0       1
[12:18] <frogzoo> Perryman: ie delete UUID=#### & replace with /dev/sdb2
[12:19] <Perryman> so menu.lst reads # kopt=root=/dev/sdb1
[12:19] <Perryman> ro
[12:20] <meal3837> is anyone here familiar with the linux sound setup?
[12:20] <frogzoo> Perryman: sdb1 or sdb2 ?
[12:20] <Perryman> wait
[12:20] <Perryman> 1234 not 01234 right
[12:20] <Perryman> sdb2
[12:20] <frogzoo> Perryman: kk, now 'sudo update-grub'
[12:21] <frogzoo> from the chroot
[12:21] <Perryman> hmm
[12:21] <frogzoo> no luck?
[12:22] <Perryman> same error, was i supposed to edit fstab
[12:22] <frogzoo> Perryman: I though you changed fstab?
[12:22] <Daemonic> hmm, k3b wont let me outside of my home directory.. wtf
[12:22] <meal3837> Daemonic: kick it in the face, that's what I do
[12:23] <Daemonic> yeah
[12:23] <Daemonic> that worked great
[12:23] <Daemonic> thanks for the advice
[12:24] <Perryman> how is fstab supposed to read?
[12:24] <frogzoo> Perryman: '/dev/sdb2       /     ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro,noatime 0       1
[12:24] <Perryman> ok
[12:24] <frogzoo> Daemonic: you been playing with permissions?
[12:25] <Daemonic> nope. I just found if I typed the path it would go there.. but wouldn't let me from the browser.
[12:25] <Perryman> cannot determinte root device
[12:25] <Perryman> doublechecking my changes
[12:26] <Jowi> what is UUID used for and why does a device need such a value? is it in case the disk gets physically moved to another bus or what?
[12:26] <Keneo> new update of beryl still gives some problems?
[12:26] <Perryman> i'm using SATA drives
[12:26] <Perryman> fstab is correct
[12:26] <bluefox83> are symlinks sharable on nfs? >.>
[12:26] <yomm> g'day all :)
[12:27] <Perryman> oops
[12:27] <Perryman> forgot 1 in menu
[12:27] <Perryman> compensating
[12:27] <bluefox83> where can i get help with nfs?
[12:28] <frogzoo> Perryman: in menu.lst, check groot=(hd1,1) & kopt=root=/dev/sdb2  & kopt_2_6=root=/dev/sdb2
[12:28] <Perryman> i only had changed 1 sdb2. change complete, re-attempting
[12:29] <Perryman> same error
[12:29] <Perryman> the file did not change
[12:29] <Perryman> i'm doing something wrong here
[12:29] <frogzoo> Perryman: grep UUID /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:29] <Perryman> ok new terminal
[12:30] <bluefox83> !nfs
[12:30] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[12:30] <Perryman> yep its still there
[12:30] <Perryman> running gksudo gedit
[12:31] <Perryman> ok
[12:31] <Perryman> grep is blank now
[12:31] <Perryman> chroot and update-grub again
[12:31] <frogzoo> Perryman: yup
[12:31] <Perryman> same problem
[12:31] <frogzoo> Perryman: sudo update-grub
[12:31] <Hellevator> does anyone else get an warning message when using gksudo?  I get some warning about authentication error
[12:31] <Perryman> yeah
[12:31] <Perryman> i get it too
[12:32] <Perryman> i get the same message frogzoo
[12:32] <Perryman> blames /etc/fstab
[12:32] <robdeman> hi folks
[12:32] <robdeman> ehrm anybody here that know how to terminate X Server on Fedora?
[12:32] <frogzoo> Perryman: ls -l /mnt/dev/sdb2
[12:32] <robdeman> boot my machine in commandline only only?
[12:32] <kb3> hello every one
[12:33] <kb3> i did the doubble partion whit xp perfect seems now askes me if  i want to mbr or root what i select there ? im using mepis live cd qparted
[12:33] <Perryman> root, disk 8
[12:33] <OkinawaInstructo> i just installed an Nvidia graphics card but only one monitor will work, anyone have any suggestions?
[12:33] <Perryman> brw-rw---- 1 rppt dosl 8 18 date time /mnt/dev/sdb2
[12:33] <kb3> can u help me finish this off perry?
[12:34] <Perryman> oh
[12:34] <Perryman> are you using multiple drives?
[12:34] <kb3> now
[12:34] <kb3> no*
[12:34] <kb3> 1 hd if u asking me
[12:34] <frogzoo> Perryman: yes
[12:35] <Perryman> ok, so the files are updated now
[12:35] <daveyates> robdeman: sudo init 3
[12:35] <Perryman> but its still invalid?
[12:35] <Perryman> update-grub only looks at menu.lst and fstab
[12:35] <Perryman> so the error must be there
[12:35] <frogzoo> Perryman: yep
[12:35] <Perryman> assuming update-grub is proper and i'm chrooted to /mnt
[12:36] <frogzoo> Perryman: maybe (just maybe) - open a terminal 'sudo -i ; chroot /mnt ; sudo update-grub'
[12:37] <Perryman> same error
[12:37] <Perryman> wait though
[12:37] <yomm> nice ! that Jinzora media server is quite cool actually !
[12:37] <NoEvidenZ> !ncurses
[12:37] <Perryman> this is the whole message:
[12:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ncurses - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:38] <Perryman> "search for grub inst dir, found /boot/grub, cannot determine root device, ass hda1, fstab, testing for menu.list ...... etc etc found kernel
[12:38] <Perryman> that means that its not an error in menu.lst
[12:38] <yomm> any1 know of o good tutorial for setting up gallery 1/2 ??? their website isn't really helpful !
[12:38] <frogzoo> Perryman: what's with the mention of hda1 ?
[12:39] <Perryman> it assumes that's the partition
[12:39] <Perryman> of course i don't have any hd??
[12:39] <Perryman> i have sd
[12:40] <Perryman> i'm gonna try google again
[12:40] <eXistenZ> How it possible to write to NTFS disks?
[12:40] <IdleOne> !fuse
[12:40] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[12:41] <Perryman> i need to set root device
[12:41] <fatbrain> so, is there "spanning volume" support on Linux? so I can "merge" my two 500gb disks?
[12:41] <frogzoo> Perryman: ie "# kopt=root=/dev/sdb2..." in menu.lst
[12:42] <Perryman> ie?
[12:42] <Perryman> that's what i have
[12:42] <Perryman> but it doesnt' mention hda1 there
[12:42] <frogzoo> Perryman: it should read "# kopt=root=/dev/sdb2..." in menu.lst
[12:42] <inflex> hi there - just wondering, how can I add a repository to my apt setup from the command line?  Specifically, I want to add xchat but the package currently isn't found
[12:42] <Perryman> it does
[12:42] <inflex> (fresh ubuntu install)
[12:42] <Perryman> when i try to update it states that it uses hda as default
[12:42] <Perryman> because i havent set root
[12:43] <Perryman> can i access grub command line from bash?
[12:43] <Perryman> or i need some other way to set root device
[12:43] <jahid> hi, my firefox browser is not starting. can anyone help me about that?
[12:44] <Perryman> in the fstab
[12:44] <Perryman> it shows /dev/sdb2  /
[12:45] <ben_underscore> inflex: the package is called xchat-gnome, and is part of the usual ubuntu repositories
[12:45] <rEsPeCT> t
[12:45] <inflex> thankyou
[12:46] <[^Twen^] > jahid: firefox won't start?
[12:46] <Perryman> ok
[12:46] <Perryman> menu.lst reverted to the kopt root=uuid
[12:46] <ben_underscore> inflex: use the command line sudo aptitude install xchat-gnome
[12:46] <Perryman> after running the update-grub
[12:46] <jahid> [^Twen^] , i clicked firefox, and its not opening. the system just shows little busy then it do nothing
[12:46] <maxb_> I have a fairly normal edgy system. xterm is hanging on startup reading from the ICE socket. Any thoughts, anyone?
[12:46] <inflex> thanks ben_underscore
[12:46] <[^Twen^] > ok. Does the menu bar says "starting firefox" ?
[12:47] <frogzoo> Perryman: oh that's helpful - not
[12:47] <Perryman> i know
[12:47] <jahid> [^Twen^] , that shows "starting firefox web browser" then it just do nothing and the menu bar icon disapper
[12:47] <persen> How do i change to the theme i selected in "emerald theme manager"?
[12:47] <Perryman> means i need to change it back every time
[12:47] <[^Twen^] > jahid: ok, I see
[12:47] <persen> clicking on it changes nothing.
[12:47] <[^Twen^] > jahid: try to go to the task manager
[12:48] <persen> afair it changed last time i used it.
[12:49] <jahid> [^Twen^] , how can i get task manager? i mean where is that located?
[12:49] <felixhummel> in the "Sound and Teamspeak 2 Howto" on linux-gamers.net "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp" is mentioned to test sound. with /dev/dsp it works fine for me, but with /dev/adsp I can hear nothing. any suggestions?
[12:49] <[^Twen^] > system, administration, and some green-screen icon
[12:49] <Perryman> this is rather frustrating
[12:49] <felixhummel> jahid, gnome-system-monitor
[12:50] <orByte> hi guys. i cannot put files into my pendrive. any idea how can i fix that?
[12:50] <[^Twen^] > felixhummel: thank you, I could just remeber the norwegian name of that manager.. =P
[12:50] <Perryman> any more suggestions?
[12:50] <infinito> can anyone tell me how to configure /etc/network/interfaces for using a wpa wireless conection on edgy??
[12:51] <IdleOne> !wireles
[12:51] <Dh3Y0> how do i enable adminstrator permision wen doin "apt-get install xmms"?
[12:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wireles - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:51] <IdleOne> !wireless
[12:51] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:51] <HiP_P> !soundblaster
[12:51] <ubotu> soundblaster is If you need help with setting up your soundblaster card, then visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundcardsWithHardwareSynth
[12:51] <IdleOne> Dh3Y0: use sudo apt-get install xmms
[12:51] <userx__> infinito there is a nice GUI called network-manager-gnome
[12:51] <frogzoo> Perryman: see the menu items as the bottom of menu.lst? you could try booting grub, and using those lines to boot the os
[12:51] <orByte> dheyo: perhaps "sudo apt-get install xmms"?
[12:51] <Dh3Y0> thanks
[12:51] <jahid> surprisingly my no other appliction is opening too. not terminal, not browser, not application manager
[12:51] <[^Twen^] > jahid: found it?
[12:52] <infinito> userx__: i dont want network-manager, it fails for my manuel wireless conections
[12:52] <daviey> I have got both php4 and php5 installed.  I want to remove php5 but apt-get remove php5* selects loads of php4 stuff and other things that are dependant.  How can i remove php5* but leave all the dependencies???
[12:52] <frogzoo> Dh3Y0: audacious > xmms
[12:52] <jahid> [^Twen^] , that application is also not opening
[12:52] <Perryman> well it just crashed again so nows my chance
[12:52] <[^Twen^] > jahid: then, take a restart =)
[12:52] <frogzoo> !audacious | Dh3Y0
[12:52] <ubotu> Dh3Y0: A !repository for the Audacious audio player now exists: see http://audacious-media-player.org/Downloads
[12:52] <jahid> :'(
[12:52] <HiP_P> my soundblaster card linein is in mono
[12:52] <[^Twen^] > jahid: we all hate restarts.. =P
[12:53] <felixhummel> infinito, apt-cache show wpasupplicant
[12:53] <Dh3Y0> frogzoo, how do i?
[12:53] <Perryman> sigh... too much linux, not enough alcohol
[12:53] <Perryman> ok, i get "error loading operating system"
[12:53] <frogzoo> Perryman: sure you do - my batteries only have about 10min, btw
[12:53] <Dh3Y0> Perryman, lol true
[12:54] <frogzoo> Perryman: from grub "root (hd1,1)"
[12:54] <orByte> how do i give myself permission to modify files in my pendrive?
[12:54] <HiP_P> Perryman hahaha good one
[12:54] <felixhummel> when I do "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp" I get "bash: /dev/adsp: Device or resource busy". what? how?...
[12:54] <Dh3Y0> something is slowing down my computer very much
[12:54] <infinito> felixhummel: im getting this error ioctl[IPW_IOCTL_WPA_SUPPLICANT] : Operation not supported
[12:54] <felixhummel> infinito, when doing what?
[12:54] <Perryman> err
[12:55] <Perryman> i can't get to grub
[12:55] <Perryman> error loading operating system
[12:55] <Perryman> should i boot super grub disk?
[12:55] <infinito> wpa_supplicant -w -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dnetwork
[12:55] <infinito> felixhummel: wpa_supplicant -w -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dnetwork
[12:55] <frogzoo> Perryman: you need to hit a key, c, or e, or esc, to interrupt the timeout
[12:55] <Perryman> hm
[12:55] <Perryman> ok
[12:56] <Perryman> didnt work before error pops up
[12:56] <Perryman> trying again
[12:56] <Cryoniq> Hmm.. I see there are software updates for beryl on the menu today... anyone installed them and they seem to be safe?
[12:56] <frogzoo> try 'e'
[12:56] <onkulis> where to ask questions about feisty?
[12:56] <Perryman> i'd install them but i cant get in linux yet :)
[12:57] <frogzoo> Cryoniq: I don't suggest it if beryl works atm
[12:57] <Perryman> nothing
[12:57] <Perryman> error loadin operating system, then it pauses
[12:57] <frogzoo> Perryman: is that the doze boot loader?
[12:57] <Perryman> i start pressing it as soon as boot from cd pops up and delays it about 1 sec
[12:57] <Perryman> it shouldnt be
[12:58] <Perryman> maybe i should get in the super grub
[12:58] <Perryman> i think i can fix that
[12:58] <Perryman> how does it know which hd to boot from?
[12:58] <Perryman> if more than one has bootable
[12:58] <frogzoo> Perryman: I'm thinking maybe you need to set groot to a different drive maybe?
[12:58] <GMachine_24> I mistakenly deleted the 'trash' icon from my toolbar and now cannot find the trash file/folder and I need to to remove files I moved to trash. I tried 'find .Trash' and get a message that says there is no such file/folder.
[12:58] <dusty-work> Hey guys, I setup a crontab to run a script at a certain time, was wondering if there is any way to check it actually ran at the specified time and did what it was supposed to do?
[12:58] <Daemonic> hmm.. I'm trying to play a divx/avi and I get a green screen with audio but no video in everything but mplayer.. codec problem perhaps?
[12:59] <HymnToLife> dusty-work, make it write to a log ?
[12:59] <GMachine_24> perryman: your BIOS settings tell your computer which hd to boot from and in what order
[12:59] <frogzoo> Perryman: the bios makes that choice, & will boot the first drive it finds - hence you probly need to point groot to the first drive
[12:59] <HymnToLife> Daemonic, do you have w32codecs installed ?
[12:59] <Daemonic> HymnToLife, yes, of course.
[01:00] <frogzoo> Perryman: sdb1 is the doze disk yes?
[01:00] <Perryman> well
[01:00] <HymnToLife> I don't know then, did you try another player ?
[01:00] <Perryman> it may be sdb3
[01:00] <Perryman> upon further analysis
[01:00] <jahid> [^Twen^] , its working now
[01:00] <Dh3Y0> frogzoo,  can u give me that application once more please
[01:00] <jahid> [^Twen^] , thank you
[01:00] <frogzoo> Dh3Y0: scroll up
[01:00] <Daemonic> HymnToLife, works fine with mplayer but I can't resize the video.. totem, xine, everything else but mplayer is a green screen with only audio.
[01:01] <frogzoo> !audacious | Dh3Y0
[01:01] <ubotu> Dh3Y0: A !repository for the Audacious audio player now exists: see http://audacious-media-player.org/Downloads
[01:01] <Dh3Y0> sorry i had to disconnect and dont know how to enable logs on xchat
[01:01] <Dh3Y0> thanks
[01:01] <Holraven> Hi everyone! Easy question: I have a messed-up Ubuntu-installation on an iBook, and I want to format my drive and install Xubuntu. Thing is, I want to copy some files off my hard drive. When booting from the CD, my USB hard drive is automatically mounted, but I can't find my internal hard drive anywhere. How can I mount it to copy my files?
[01:02] <persen> !compiz
[01:02] <Perryman> is there a way to remove the master boot record from a drive?
[01:02] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:02] <Perryman> i think thats what i did
[01:02] <persen> Is compiz and beryl sort of same thing?
[01:02] <Perryman> confused drives and made one bootable
[01:02] <Perryman> that shouldnt be
[01:03] <frogzoo> Perryman: scrubbing mbrs is a very dangerous exercise, just btw
[01:03] <Perryman> hmm
[01:03] <Perryman> ok
[01:03] <Perryman> well apparantly
[01:03] <frogzoo> Perryman: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/### bs=64 count=1
[01:03] <Perryman> i made a data drive have an mbr
[01:04] <devin_> can someone tell me if this fstab looks right? looks alil abnormal to me  http://pastebin.com/873495
[01:04] <Perryman> what's that frogzoo ?
[01:04] <frogzoo> Perryman: that will zero the 1st 64 blocks, destroying the mbr (but not touching hte partn table, which is higher up)
[01:05] <Perryman> wow
[01:05] <Perryman> ok lemme restart
[01:05] <Perryman> thanks for the help if you drop
[01:05] <Perryman> its been very informative and fun
[01:06] <mneptok> but was it arousing?
[01:06] <mneptok> and don't lie. we can tell.
[01:06] <daviey> why isn't php4 giving me /usr/bin/php??
[01:06] <Perryman> oh don't you know
[01:06] <Perryman> african backgrounds make me hot
[01:06] <frogzoo> Perryman: kk, lg
[01:07] <mneptok> daviey: /usr/bin/php4?
[01:07] <frogzoo> devin_: what's wrong with that fstab? looks fine
[01:08] <Windy> Could someone please tell me why half my icons are missing?
[01:08] <IdleOne> Windy: probably not without you telling us what you did before they went missing
[01:08] <frogzoo> Windy: check launchpad, your schemes probly need to be reregistered
[01:09] <devin_> frogzoo not use to seeing the UUID= stuff
[01:09] <Dh3Y0> frogzoo, sorry i m new to xubuntu and linux, what do i do now?
[01:09] <Windy> IdleOne: I installed Ubuntu
[01:09] <Windy> frogzoo: launchpad?
[01:09] <IdleOne> Windy: what icons are you looking for?
[01:09] <frogzoo> devin_: it's an innovation that allows you to put funky geek numbers in your fstab
[01:10] <frogzoo> !launchpad
[01:10] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[01:10] <Windy> IdleOne: err most of the icons under games, the add/remove icon, the update-manager tray icon
[01:10] <Windy> those are the ones i've noticed so far
[01:10] <sdac221x> hi ,  i read many guides on the net but i still cant figure out how to change my screen brightness on lenovo T60 with Xubuntu edgy.  The function brightness buttons don't work... any ideas ?
[01:11] <devin_> frogzoo heh so do those funky geekish numbers hold a purpose?
[01:11] <daviey> mneptok, nope; not there.  But as a default it should be /usr/bin/php
[01:11] <Windy> sdac221x: fn + home/end
[01:11] <Windy> is what it is on my brand spanking new z61m
[01:11] <sdac221x> Windy:   yes that doesn't work thats why im asking for help
[01:11] <Windy> hmm
[01:11] <Windy> odd
[01:12] <Windy> works by default on both thinkpads i've had :/
[01:12] <sdac221x> Windy:   is there a terminal command ?
[01:12] <Windy> have you tried setting up keyboard shortcuts?
[01:12] <Perryman> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1
[01:12] <sdac221x> Windy:  don't know where that is done from.
[01:13] <Perryman> i read that the mbr is 512 bytes?
[01:13] <Windy> system --> preferences --> keyboard shortcuts
[01:13] <Perryman> so do i want to do 64 or 512?
[01:13] <Windy> i was under the impression that it's do-able by default
[01:13] <Dh3Y0> i ve got xubuntu dapper i think how do i install audacious
[01:13] <Windy> is yours done with Fn + something?
[01:13] <dusty-work> HymnToLife: How do i make it write to a log?
[01:14] <sdac221x> Windy:  yes my brightness is Fn+HOME or END.
[01:14] <sdac221x> Windy:  the shorcuts area asks for a command to bind to a keyboard shortcut.  i dont know what that command is though
[01:15] <Windy> hmm
[01:15] <Windy> just click there
[01:15] <Windy> and hit Fn + whatever
[01:15] <Windy> see if that works
[01:15] <Windy> otherwise i'm out of ideas
[01:15] <Windy> as is i'm trying to figure out something that lets me disable the touchpad and some kind of fix for these damn icons
[01:16] <Perryman> here's a notion
[01:16] <Perryman> i can just unflag with gparted
[01:16] <Perryman> and see what happens
[01:16] <sdac221x> Windy:  no it doesnt respond.   i read somewhere that the brightness buttons work outside of x mode.  do you know how to leave x mode and go to terminal.   ctrl+alt+f2 only blanks my screen
[01:17] <Windy> hmm
[01:17] <Windy> ctrl+alt+F11?
[01:17] <Windy> that blanked my screen, but i seem to remember that's how it's done
[01:17] <Windy> i could be wrong
[01:17] <sdac221x> Windy:  ye all the F combinations give me a fuzzy colored mess on the screen.   F7 brings me back to X
[01:18] <sdac221x> Windy: are you trying to disable touchpad on an ibm thinkpad ?
[01:18] <Windy> yes
[01:18] <Windy> Z61m's have a touchpad and a trackpoint
[01:18] <Windy> and i hate touchpads
[01:19] <sdac221x> Windy:  there is a touchpad hardware config tool called tpctl in synaptic.  im not sure if that allows you to do that ... in fact i haven't figured out how to run the damn program
[01:20] <Windy> eh i'll look at it
[01:20] <Windy> either way, this recent Ubuntu installation is bug-ridden as hell
[01:20] <Windy> makes me wonder wtf is going on
[01:22] <Windy> oooh, this might be handy
[01:22] <Dh3Y0>  Invalid operation audacious????????????????????
[01:24] <sdac221x> Windy:  iim trying it now ,  its a command line tool so im not really comfortable in that realm.   anyway do you get any prompts with "tpctl --x"  ?
[01:24] <sdac221x> I get "tpctl: Neither /dev/thinkpad/thinkpad nor /dev/thinkpad exists. Exiting."
[01:25] <Windy> hmm
[01:25] <Windy> not really
[01:25] <Windy> btw, do you use network-manager?
[01:25] <sdac221x> yes
[01:26] <Dh3Y0> how do i install audacious, wen i try apt-get command i get Invalid operation audacious
[01:26] <Windy> hmm
[01:26] <Windy> have you had this error with it saying 'not enough resources' on startup?
[01:26] <mwe> Dh3Y0: apt-get install
[01:26] <sdac221x> no
[01:26] <Windy> i'm sitting here with a brand spanking new install and there's issues, this is new =/
[01:26] <mwe> Dh3Y0: sudo apt-get install aucacious, though I don't know the package
[01:27] <mwe> audacious*
[01:27] <Dh3Y0> yeah that works thanks
[01:27] <sdac221x> this message comes when u start netmanager ?
[01:27] <Dh3Y0> wait
[01:27] <Dh3Y0> Reading package lists... Done
[01:27] <Dh3Y0> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:27] <Dh3Y0> E: Couldn't find package audacious
[01:27] <Windy> on startup
[01:27] <Dh3Y0> ?
[01:28] <mwe> Dh3Y0: are you thinking of audocity?
[01:28] <Dh3Y0> the media player yes
[01:28] <mwe> Dh3Y0: I've never heard of audacious
[01:28] <Dh3Y0> !audacious
[01:28] <mwe> it's not a media player
[01:28] <ubotu> A !repository for the Audacious audio player now exists: see http://audacious-media-player.org/Downloads
[01:28] <sdac221x> the thing i like about ubuntu is being a large distro there are hundreds of guides on the net for new linux users such as my self
[01:28] <mwe> Dh3Y0: so it's not in the standard repos
[01:29] <capt-silver> I use Edgy on a Compaq ENS. The built in sound/speaker works only if i connect a speaker to the jack-headphone. The internal speaker does not play sounds. I have loooked at the jack-sense audio stuff..Not sure what too look for. Any ideas? TIA. Not a major problem because I have a small speaker attached.
[01:29] <sdac221x> Windy:  do you have network-manager-gnome installed as well
[01:29] <Dh3Y0> :S i cant play mp3's
[01:29] <pbureau> Dh3Y0, why not?
[01:29] <mwe> !mp3 | Dh3Y0
[01:29] <ubotu> Dh3Y0: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:29] <Windy> sdac221x: hmm worth a look, sec
[01:29] <Dh3Y0> xfcemedia wont play it
[01:30] <mwe> !mp3 | Dh3Y0
[01:30] <ubotu> Dh3Y0: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:30] <pbureau> Dh3Y0, religious belief ? or actuall problem you care to describe to us ? (nope we are not psychic)
[01:30] <Windy> i did it via add/remove, so i assumed it'd take care of it
[01:30] <IdleOne> Dh3Y0: see a tab with my nick on top or bottom of xchat?
[01:30] <Dh3Y0> IdleOne, i m replying
[01:30] <Windy> hmm and both packages are installed
[01:30] <Dh3Y0> its dapper
[01:30] <pbureau> Windy, problem with NM ? or connecting using NM ?
[01:31] <Windy> with NM itself
[01:31] <Windy> seems to work fine and connects
[01:31] <Windy> but on startup it tells me not enough resources or some such
[01:31] <Windy> and while we're at it, i don't suppose you know which magical pixy stole all the icons out of my clean install do you?
[01:31] <pbureau> ram  on pc, free Hdd memory ? (ie how big is your swap)
[01:31] <IdleOne> deb-src http://static.audacious-media-player.org/ubuntu dapper main
[01:31] <Windy> because i have a heavy old laptop which is just begging to bludgeon it to death
[01:32] <Windy> pbureau: 1 gig DDR2 RAM, 1024mb swap
[01:32] <Windy> if i remember right
[01:32] <pbureau> Windy, get edgy :)
[01:32] <Windy> i got edgy
[01:32] <Windy> if anything it made it worse
[01:32] <Windy> the first thing i did after installing dapper was get edgy
[01:32] <pbureau> Windy, did you "upgrade" or install fresh...
[01:32] <Windy> hmm
[01:33] <Windy> in what sense?
[01:33] <Dh3Y0> sources.list?
[01:33] <pbureau> Windy, ah I did that.... I think its not a good idea, I reinstalled edgy clean... and its best install
[01:33] <Windy> it's a clean install of dapper
[01:33] <Windy> i literally installed dapper off a CD and put edgy on
[01:33] <sdac221x> ye many had problems with going to edgy from a dapper install.  just start fresh with edgy first
[01:33] <Windy> the first thing i did the minute it booted to dapper was update to edgy
[01:33] <mwe> installing fresh or upgrading shouldn't neither make NM run out of resources on such a system
[01:33] <Windy> well, the last edgy on dapper i had was flawless
[01:34] <pbureau> Windy, I understand..... anyways I dont have an answer about memory ressources, you may want to check the NM web site they have a forum
[01:34] <Windy> hmm
[01:34] <Windy> mwe: i wouldn't think so either
[01:34] <Windy> 512mb swap is minimum, i made sure i was at least double that
[01:34] <Windy> plus this thing has RAM leaking out it's sides practically
[01:34] <pbureau> Windy, you using 0.6.3 I assume (packaged)..?
[01:34] <mwe> Windy: even without swap it should work
[01:34] <Little_Eagle> who said 512M is minimum?
[01:34] <sdac221x> Windy:  have you tried using KnetworkManager instead.  it works well with me
[01:34] <Windy> pbureau: lost me there i'm sorry
[01:35] <Windy> chances are that's what's messingme
[01:35] <mwe> Windy: I think something else is wrong
[01:35] <Windy> sdac221x: hmm, not to my knowledge
[01:35] <pbureau> Windy, you installed NM through package manager (synaptic?)
[01:35] <Windy> mwe: i get a feeling you're right
[01:35] <Windy> no, add/remove
[01:35] <Windy> which incidentally has no icon
[01:35] <pbureau> Windy,  click on the icon on your toolbar and select about, what version does it give you ?
[01:35] <IdleOne> Dh3Y0: type something in the window with my name in it
[01:35] <Windy> to be brutally honest, the whole install has gone to the dogs a bit
[01:35] <pbureau> Windy, KDE or Gnome ?
[01:36] <Windy> Gnome
[01:36] <mwe> Windy: oh. how so?
[01:36] <Dh3Y0> IdleOne: umm what the source.list
[01:36] <Windy> hmm there's just the normal network connections icon on toolbar
[01:36] <Windy> mwe: the last 2 installs on dodgy old IBM were beautiful
[01:36] <pbureau> Windy,  humm something is wrong if you dont have an icon in your toolbar, I woudl get synaptic running, and force a re-install of the package
[01:36] <IdleOne> Dh3Y0: the sources.list is where ubuntu looks to see where it is supposed to go to get packages and updates
[01:36] <Windy> sleek, ran like a greased sprinter on a banana farm
[01:36] <mwe> Windy: If I were you I'd try creating a new gnome profile and see if it helps
[01:37] <agliv5> Greetigns :) had to install glib 2.12 as a dependency and, inorder to do so, first had to sudo apt-get remove libglib2.0-0.  I've since successfully installed glib 2.12 and ubuntu is still running but alot is messed up ;)  Can anyone please help me fix it ?
[01:37] <Windy> pbureau: i've tried force reinstalls of all the packages i suspected were messed, no luck afaik
[01:37] <Windy> haven't tried network-manager, but i'll give it a go
[01:37] <Windy> mwe: no idea how to do that sadly
[01:37] <Windy> either way i look at it, this install is just off
[01:37] <Windy> even the x-chat is whack
[01:37] <mwe> Windy: rename ~/.gnome2 and log out and back in
[01:37] <Dh3Y0> IdleOne: how do i open it
[01:38] <pbureau> Windy, I use the 0.6.4 v (a paint to instal right now... so many modules (-dev) to add before you can compile it)... but everything works like a charm..
[01:38] <IdleOne> Dh3Y0: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:38] <Windy> either they've updated it and it's gotten uglier
[01:38] <mwe> Windy: it will reset your personal settings, though
[01:38] <Windy> or i've gotten an old version somehow
[01:38] <Windy> mwe: i think i can live with that, what with near nil personal settings atm
[01:38] <pbureau> windy terminal window type ' uname -r ' what answers?
[01:39] <Windy> 2.6.17-10-386
[01:39] <pbureau> thats the latest kernel...
[01:39] <n2diy> how can I check if dcopserver is running on Dapper?
[01:39] <IdleOne> Dh3Y0: to scroll down the file use the arrow keys and add ( deb http://static.audacious-media-player.org/ubuntu dapper main
[01:39] <IdleOne> deb-src http://static.audacious-media-player.org/ubuntu dapper main ) at the bottom of the file
[01:39] <mwe> Windy: yeah. is your sources.list correct, do you know. also I heard some people had to sudo apt-get dist-upgrade twice to make it work right from dapper to edgy
[01:39] <Windy> mwe: hmm dunno, i added the universe repo's in after i did the edgy thing
[01:40] <Windy> and it was having lots of slow runs in the update process
[01:40] <Windy> which was a bugger
[01:40] <Windy> might try it again
[01:40] <mwe> Windy: start by renaming ~/.gnome2 and log out and back in. see if it helps. that's my advice
[01:40] <Windy> i'll try the distro upgrade again
[01:40] <Dh3Y0> yeah
[01:40] <Windy> and then i'll try the other way
[01:40] <Dh3Y0> IdleOne: yeah
[01:40] <mwe> Windy: ok
[01:40] <Dh3Y0> IdleOne: how do i save it
[01:40] <IdleOne> Dh3Y0: added those 2 lines?
[01:41] <IdleOne> Dh3Y0: hit ctrl+x and enter
[01:41] <Dh3Y0> theres just one line no?
[01:41] <IdleOne> deb http://static.audacious-media-player.org/ubuntu dapper main
[01:41] <IdleOne> deb-src http://static.audacious-media-player.org/ubuntu dapper main
[01:41] <mwe> Windy: if it doesn't help try pasting the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list to paste.ubuntu-nl.org and paste the url here and I'll have a look at it
[01:41] <IdleOne> those two
[01:41] <Windy> lol wtf
[01:41] <Windy> a new distribution 7.04 is avail.
[01:41] <mwe> Windy: sources.list seems to be broken
[01:41] <pbureau> you dont want that.... buggy development
[01:41] <Windy> heh
[01:42] <mwe> Windy: paste.ubuntu-nl.org /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:42] <Windy> hmm?
[01:42] <mwe> Windy: you should supposedly be running edgy, right?
[01:42] <Windy> the thing is, it's getting most of the packages fine, barring a few python ones
[01:42] <Windy> mwe: in theory at least, yeah
[01:42] <IdleOne> Dh3Y0: I'll be back in about 15-20 minutes and help you finish installation
[01:42] <mwe> Windy: go to paste.ubuntu-nl.org please. and paste /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:42] <Dh3Y0> IdleOne:  ok
[01:43] <sdac221x> anyone know how to go to terminal mode.  i've tried ctrl+alt+Fx  but all they do is give fuzzy colored screen.   ctrl+alt+F7 returns to xfce  (running xubuntu edgy)
[01:43] <Windy> righto, gimme a mo
[01:44] <Windy> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3813/
[01:44] <Perryman> hm
[01:44] <Perryman> figured out my problem
[01:44] <Perryman> something with boot orders and what not
[01:44] <Perryman> so somewhere along the lines even though it gave that one error message it was still configured correctly
[01:44] <suzi> does any1 know where to download a server list for amule
[01:45] <Perryman> changed the boot order and grub loaded again
[01:45] <mwe> Windy: change the word dapper to edgy on lines 16 and 17. let me see if anything else is wrong
[01:45] <mepa|Yancho> i am using the partitioner of the ubuntu installer but the unallocated space at the primary partition cannot be moved to the logical .. any other techniques to do it? :) pls
[01:45] <Perryman> without crash and properly, ubuntu is booting
[01:45] <rowanjl> If I try a Feisty Fawn beta will I have to later download the final release to update?
[01:45] <mwe> Windy: yeah remove lines 31 and 32
[01:45] <Windy> hmm
[01:45] <mwe> Windy: it messed up ;)
[01:45] <Perryman> so what do you guys think of beryl?
[01:45] <capt-rogers> When I setup a new box, one of the first things I setup is ssh, and use another local box to ssh in from..and use putty etc to copy and paste from howtoforge
[01:45] <chrismhampson1> I can successfully browse samba shares between two ubuntu boxes via firefox but for some reason the 'Places...Network Servers..." doesn't work. Any ideas?
[01:45] <mwe> Windy: after making those changes try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:46] <Windy> hm
[01:46] <Windy> sec
[01:46] <Windy> hmm
[01:46] <Windy> two dapper entries
[01:46] <Dh3Y0> IdleOne: aha i now gets what the source.list is about, i m learning thank u o'wise one
[01:46] <Windy> doesn't seem so messed though :/
[01:46] <Windy> and i don't think it'd do anything for the missing icons
[01:47] <Windy> still, i appreciate the help
[01:47] <Windy> lemme give it a whack
[01:47] <whyameye> how can I give an acct. privs to kill a process w/out giving them sudo privs?
[01:47] <mwe> Windy: it's enough to create a terrible mess, though ;)
[01:47] <chrismhampson1> can anyone help with my samba problem?
[01:48] <gustavnilsson> Hi! I'm seraching for a curve fitting tool for linux, any suggestions?
[01:48] <SamArthurAllen> chrismhampson1: do you plan on connecting any windows boxes to the samba networks?
[01:48] <chrismhampson1> SamArthurAllen, no
[01:48] <SamArthurAllen> in that case, NFS is better for linux to linux filesharing.
[01:48] <Pici> gustavnilsson: I believe theres a few, you're best bet would be to search for one on freshmeat.net
[01:49] <SamArthurAllen> I found that out the hard way myself ;)
[01:49] <chrismhampson1> SamArthurAllen, I tried that already but again the network server method couldn't browse
[01:49] <SamArthurAllen> Strange. did any pings work?
[01:49] <artisimo> hi
[01:49] <chrismhampson1> SamArthurAllen, pings to my internal network addresses?
[01:50] <SamArthurAllen> Oops, I mean to the other linux boxes on the network.
[01:50] <gustavnilsson> Pici: ok, thx
[01:50] <artisimo> iam new with linux i want to installl linux ona extern hd ..there are any problems with ?
[01:50] <artisimo> usb hd*
[01:50] <chrismhampson1> SamArthurAllen, I can ping to my other boxes and access samba shares through firefox but not through the regular ubuntu way
[01:51] <NoEvidenZ> artisimo: Just make sure your bios will let you boot from a USB device
[01:51] <sdac221x> /etc/inittab file is empty on my system.  how do i make it run the Getty process for tty1 so that ctrl+alt+F1 will take to a vitrual console instead of a fuzzy colored screen ?
[01:51] <SamArthurAllen> chrismhampson1: wow, that is strange.
[01:51] <n2diy> how can I check if dcopserver is running on Dapper?
[01:52] <artisimo> i have a 100 gb partition for linux on the hd, i have seen somting it should not larger than 8 gb?
[01:52] <cafuego_> n2diy: it'll be listed in the 'ps' output.
[01:52] <cafuego_> artisimo: it can be as large as you like, but I'd recommend using maybe 12 GB for / and the rest as /home
[01:52] <agliv5> Greetigns :) had to install glib 2.12 as a dependency and, inorder to do so, first had to sudo apt-get remove libglib2.0-0.  I've since successfully installed glib 2.12 and ubuntu is still running but alot is messed up ;)  Can anyone please help me fix it ?
[01:52] <agliv5> Greetigns :) had to install glib 2.12 as a dependency and, inorder to do so, first had to sudo apt-get remove libglib2.0-0.  I've since successfully installed glib 2.12 and ubuntu is still running but alot is messed up ;)  Can anyone please help me fix it ?
[01:52] <artisimo> thx
[01:53] <Gimbli> Hello Together
[01:53] <agliv5> sorry bout the double post...
[01:53] <artisimo> the torrent for the dvd is really slow i ever tought torrents are fast ;)
[01:53] <chrismhampson1> SamArthurAllen, how would I set NFS up?
[01:53] <Gimbli> I have a small problem with the open-office-base-form-wizard. is it a known problem that the wizard can't be finished?
[01:54] <SamArthurAllen> chrismhampson1: the best NFS howto I've found is at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=249889 - it's saved me many times.
[01:54] <Dh3Y0> IdleOne: i ve got through :) thanks for the help
[01:54] <SamArthurAllen> I can also step you though the way if needed
[01:54] <SamArthurAllen> otherwise, happy hacking chrismhampson1 :D
[01:54] <chrismhampson1> SamArthurAllen, thanks
[01:55] <SamArthurAllen> That's Ok.
[01:55] <rowanjl> funny, I thought the name "root" got people k-lined...
[01:56] <root> I can not login with any other user than root. It says my harddisk was full or read-only but neither one of this is the case... can somebody help?
[01:56] <rowanjl> root: use /nick whatever
[01:56] <whatever> :>
[01:56] <rowanjl> :P
[01:56] <Gimbli> =)
[01:56] <SamArthurAllen> lol @ whatever
[01:56] <n2diy> how do I start the dcopserver?
[01:56] <rowanjl> I know the admins don't like people being "root" :)
[01:56] <whatever> so, does anyone know how I could fox my problem?
[01:57] <whatever> fix*
[01:57] <NoEvidenZ> How do I delete a folder and everyhting in it?
[01:57] <whatever> NoEvidenZ, rm -r
[01:57] <Ippatsu> NoEvidenZ: rm -r (be careful)
[01:57] <NoEvidenZ> K, thanks.
[01:57] <cmt^^_> My dvd::rip stops ripping and goes idle after half the movie's been ripped, how come?
[01:57] <Lynoure> rowanjl: What you do on your own system should be your own problem, but it is bad when people do it uninformed
[01:58] <pzak> quit
[01:58] <SamArthurAllen> Words you don't what your kids to say #692: "Daddy, what does 91% of Drive C: formatted mean?"
[01:58] <rowanjl> me?
[01:58] <NoEvidenZ> It's so simple..
[01:58] <rowanjl> I'm talking about the Freenode admins.
[01:58] <Lynoure> (you passive)
[01:59] <whatever> being able to perform an update means that / can not be read-only, right?
[01:59] <Lynoure> I think one can easily be root and even irc as root without freenode admins ever knowing. :)
[01:59] <yomm> sudo shutdown -h now   :p
[02:00] <noneee> hello, i tried beryl+aiglx but I get my screen all white.. can anyone help me?
[02:00] <whatever> does xfce have an lock-file or something that blocks my login?
[02:01] <yomm> nonee : you probably have to tweak your xorg.conf properly for compositing to work
[02:01] <noneee> but I did
[02:01] <Ranbee> hi, i broke X when i put beryl in my session startup tab. all i have now is a palin white cube. does anyone know how to delete that entry from session startup?
[02:01] <Pici> noneee: : check out #ubuntu-xgl for beryl/compositing support
[02:01] <noneee> tanks Pici !!
[02:01] <yomm> nonee : is your cube present & rotating , but just plain white ?
[02:02] <yomm> nonee - or do u get nothing at all
[02:02] <Ranbee> i got that problem too lol
[02:02] <noneee> yomm, yes
[02:02] <noneee> I have the cube
[02:02] <noneee> but it's all white
[02:02] <felixhummel> re
[02:03] <Ranbee> noneee, i have that too. you need to take out beryl from the session startup tab
[02:03] <Gimbli> does somebody know about this "can't finish form with open office form wizard" problem?
[02:03] <noneee> Ranbee, ok
[02:03] <felixhummel> how can I make udev read the rules again? aka. restart/reload udev?
[02:03] <NoEvidenZ> I'm learning Linux! =o
[02:04] <noneee> Ranbee, I have no reference to beryl in my startup
[02:04] <skript> whats the difference between linux-image-2.6.15-server and linux-image-2.6.15-686 ?
[02:05] <noneee> but... you mean the gnome-session-properties?
[02:05] <felixhummel> skript, see server.ubuntu.com
[02:05] <Ranbee> noneee, oh, sorry. that's how it happened for me. it was working fine, then i put beryl in session startups and now i have just a plain white cube.
[02:05] <NaPsTeR> how can i get plugins 4 multisync
[02:06] <noneee> thank Ranbee
[02:06] <noneee> Ranbee, could you show me your xorg.conf in pvt?
[02:06] <SamArthurAllen> flame, i can't beleive that nick was taken.
[02:07] <NaPsTeR> ??
[02:07] <Ranbee> noneee, the internet connection has broken on that computer, there's no gui. it's totally broken
[02:07] <TheSkorm> NaPsTeR
[02:07] <TheSkorm> lol
[02:07] <persen> Should i have to anything else than, aptitude instal msttcorefonts to get the MS fonts as "default" in X?
[02:07] <NaPsTeR> wat?
[02:07] <noneee> Ranbee, ok :)
[02:08] <persen> !fonts is not doing it for me :/
[02:08] <Ranbee> noneee, i'm trying to fix it now lol. but, you don't want my xorg :D
[02:08] <noneee> heheh
[02:09] <n2diy> how do I start the dcopserver?
[02:09] <rowanjl> Hah, I started my computer with the date set back one year, then started downloading Ubuntu 6.10, then I set the date forwards, now its downloading at 0kbs which will take around 8,300 hours :P
[02:09] <coobra> lowefoewff
[02:09] <coobra> wewef
[02:09] <coobra> w
[02:09] <TheSkorm> 
[02:10] <NaPsTeR> how can i sync my phone using bluetooth?
[02:11] <felixhummel> NaPsTeR, search http://ubuntuforums.org for you phone
[02:12] <SamArthurAllen> rofl @ rowanjl - reminds me of when I downloaded an ISO via bittorrent with dial-up. 3 days it took.
[02:13] <felixhummel> be back
[02:13] <rowanjl> SamArthurAllen: I tried to download Ubuntu with a 28kbps connection, it took 18 days.
[02:13] <Stormx2> persen: They won't be default, they'll just be installed
[02:13] <rowanjl> And was completely corrupt.
[02:14] <SamArthurAllen> rowanjl: that's actually quite 1337 :P minus the corruption part.
[02:14] <DarthLappy> rowanjl: rsync!
[02:14] <SamArthurAllen> Commodore 64 style - press play and wait an hour for the game to load by tape.
[02:14] <TheSkorm> I DEMAND A REFUND FOR THIS FREE SERVICE
[02:15] <rowanjl> DarthLappy: well, its funny you should say that, because when I downloaded rsync, it got corrupted too...
[02:15] <mindstate> anyone know any good dealers to buy p4 cpu's
[02:15] <rowanjl> Thankfully I've now got a 512kbps connection...
[02:15] <apokryphos> TheSkorm: please stop.
[02:15] <DarthLappy> rowanjl: Heh.
[02:15] <TheSkorm> apokryphos : your lucky that i havnt started
[02:15] <apokryphos> TheSkorm: this is a support channel; if you have a question, ask, and many people may be able to help.
[02:15] <mindstate> TheSkorm, whats your issue brah
[02:16] <apokryphos> ubotu: patience | TheSkorm
[02:16] <ubotu> TheSkorm: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:16] <TheSkorm> mmhmm
[02:16] <mindstate> lol
[02:16] <TheSkorm> i've been here for sevral days helping people i can
[02:16] <TheSkorm> i was just breaking the silence :P
[02:16] <apokryphos> ok =)
[02:17] <persen> Stormx2: How would i make X use them then?
[02:17] <kev_b> hey guys I got a problem: user switching stopped working in gnome. It looks like it can't start a new virtual console but I can't be sure. The screen locks as if it has switched to a new VC but a new session hasn't been started : (
[02:17] <Dregin> this is slightly unrelated to anything specifically ubuntu..... but I got a lifecam VX6000.... is there any hope of getting it working in ubuntu?
[02:17] <Stormx2> persen: Don't know about X, but try System > Preferences > Fonts
[02:18] <mindstate> anyone know any good dealers to buy p4 cpu's
[02:18] <Pici> !webcam | Dregin you could try looking here:
[02:18] <ubotu> Dregin you could try looking here:: webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[02:18] <kev_b> mindstate: which country?
[02:18] <mindstate> kev_b, i live in USA
[02:18] <kev_b> mindstate: then i guess newegg or ebay, but I don't know
[02:18] <kev_b> mindstate: i'm in the UK
[02:19] <zdogde> hi
[02:19] <mindstate> kev_b, newegg isnt selling P4 chips anymore :( theyre slowly becoming obsolete lol
[02:19] <mindstate> ill check out ebay
[02:19] <kev_b> mindstate: yeah, i'd check ebay
[02:19] <Menisk> Dregin, even if it is Gaim doesn't support it and I don't know if anything does unless you use kubuntu
[02:20] <Menisk> Dregin, The proble is that Gaim doesn't have webcam support/
[02:20] <zdogde> i installed ubuntu-desktop on my kubuntu machine, and uninstalled all kde stuff now. but the usplash theme is the kubuntu one... how i change it to the ubuntu usplash?
[02:21] <_Archangel> !edgy | _Archangel
[02:21] <ubotu> _Archangel: Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[02:21] <kev_b> anyone know how gdmflexiserver or user switching in gnome works?
[02:22] <hawk> mindstate: You need a P4 for a spare part? Other than that, there can't be any reason to want one, can there? :)
[02:22] <_Archangel> is edgy not available to download yet? it's only an upgrade ?
[02:22] <hawk> _Archangel: Hmm?
[02:22] <_Archangel> i was looking for a  live cd version
[02:22] <_Archangel> this link only gives me 6.10
[02:22] <hawk> _Archangel: 6.10 == edgy
[02:22] <_Archangel> <-- too early. ty
[02:23] <rpc> what swap size should i choose for 2GB of ram?
[02:23] <mindstate> hawk: i want it cause i've got a p4 mobo lying around with no chip installed
[02:23] <rpc> 4GB or 2GB would be enough
[02:23] <mindstate> hawk: why not load a chip on it and slam ubuntu on it :-)
[02:24] <Dregin> Menisk: nah, not neccessarily GAIM. I'm just looking at some of the utter crap that's getting popular on youtube and have decided i want to make some video replies.
[02:24] <kev_b> rpc: I reckon 2 GB should be easily enough
[02:25] <Perryman> gaim does msn/aim right
[02:25] <rpc> kev_b so the regular formula doesn't work here anymore, right?
[02:25] <rpc> like swap = 2 x ram size
[02:25] <mindstate> Perryman: yes, and alot more
[02:26] <Perryman> well i mainly use msn, aim, gmail, yahoo, and icq
[02:26] <Perryman> and irc
[02:26] <DarthLappy> Perryman: All supported.
[02:26] <Perryman> rather they will be
[02:26] <kev_b> rpc: afaik thats a old and fairly simplistic way of doing it
[02:26] <mindstate> DarthLappy: didnt know gAIM supported GTalk
[02:26] <Perryman> once that first update wave finishes
[02:26] <Perryman> i cant install anything
[02:26] <hawk> mindstate: Well, that sort of what I meant by "spare part"... Needing a new CPU for some old machine.
[02:26] <DarthLappy> mindstate: Yeap, GTalk is just Jabber. You don't get the fancy stuff though.
[02:27] <Perryman> like beryl or opera
[02:27] <Perryman> until its done
[02:27] <Lynoure> rpc: if you want to hibernate on it, I would not go less than 2x mem, if not, and you have a lot of memory, less is enough
[02:27] <rpc> kev_b ok
[02:27] <mindstate> hawk: then the answer is yes lol
[02:27] <rpc> i plan to do some heavy mysql there
[02:27] <mindstate> DarthLappy: ah i c,  i dont use gtalk anyway
[02:27] <mwe> Perryman: berryl and opera are not in the default repos
[02:27] <Perryman> what could take so long its only installing 177 updates :(
[02:27] <rpc> thanks very much kev_b and Lynoure - setting up 2GB swap
[02:28] <Perryman> aye i did an update while i searched for beryl instructions
[02:28] <Perryman> i added 3p repos and started the process but i have to wait
[02:28] <Perryman> configuring mono-gac
[02:28] <Perryman> whatever that is
[02:28] <defrysk> Perryman, see a doctor and get some medication
[02:29] <Perryman> i thought your mom was busy? :-p
[02:29] <mindstate> good one
[02:29] <mindstate> lol
[02:29] <i687> Hello all... anyone could help me understand some stuff regarding SSL certificates in ubuntu?
[02:30] <Perryman> that's my cue to leave
[02:30] <TheSkorm> "              "
[02:30] <kev_b> anyone know how gdmflexiserver or user switching in gnome works?
[02:30] <Perryman> pfm
[02:31] <_Archangel> hoary -> breezy -> dapper ?
[02:31] <i687> dapper
[02:31] <mwe> ->edgy
[02:31] <cmt^^_> can someone give me a tip on what program to use to rip dvd:s?
[02:31] <_Archangel> i have a unique issue on one of my computers
[02:31] <mwe> !dvd
[02:31] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:31] <_Archangel> only hoary will boot from cd
[02:31] <fredl> how can I easily get a picture of my browser window?
[02:32] <Dregin> print screen button?
[02:32] <_Archangel> are there repos to suport breezy upgrades?
[02:32] <defrysk> fredl, alt-printsceens makes an ss of your active window
[02:32] <mwe> _Archangel: hoary->breezy->dapper->edgy is likely to fail ;)
[02:33] <_Archangel> dapper will not boot into live cd on that machine
[02:33] <mwe> !alternate | _Archangel
[02:33] <ubotu> _Archangel: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[02:33] <fredl> tnx defrysk. Somebody on #gimp just told me you can also get a screendump from the main menu in #gimp, for just one window
[02:33] <mwe> _Archangel: you're not the first one to have problems with the live cd
[02:33] <Elborgo> hi i need this info: i'm now in live version of ubuntu 6.10. I'd like to install it, but i have suse 9.0 in hd partition and Win in another (i need to mantain my win installation). How ubuntu installation program works? Can ubuntu automatically substitute suse?
[02:33] <derjoerg> hi, I'm running ubuntu dapper. Now I want to use vserver. The vserver community recommends kernel 2.6.19.2 with vserver 2.2.0-rc9.
[02:34] <_Archangel> where do i pick up the alternate method cd ?
[02:34] <[H4z3] > Hey anyone got a spare min to help? =P
[02:34] <IdleOne> _Archangel: www.ubuntu.com
[02:34] <derjoerg> I successfully compiled the new kernel, but the system will not came up after reboot
[02:34] <TheSkorm> [H4z3]  ask away... we're all ready
[02:34] <mwe> _Archangel: ubuntu.com
[02:34] <Elborgo> _Archangel: goes to www.ubuntu.com and follow the download links...
[02:34] <[H4z3] > k well... when i open the synaptic package manager.. i get this error
[02:34] <[H4z3] > E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[02:34] <hawk> derjoerg: Well, I guess either you go against the vserver community's recommendations and stick with what exists in dapper, or you upgrade things...
[02:35] <defrysk> _Archangel, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/edgy/release/ take your pick
[02:35] <TheSkorm> [H4z3]  tryied doing what it says>
[02:35] <derjoerg> I've a softraid 1 and when I ran lilo it gives aout the warning
[02:35] <derjoerg> Warning: '/proc/partitions' does not match '/dev' directory structure.
[02:35] <derjoerg>     Name change: '/dev/dm-0' -> '/dev/evms/.nodes/sda1'
[02:35] <[H4z3] > i did.. it said something about user privlages... so i tried it on root... same thing
[02:35] <IdleOne> [H4z3] : Applications > Accesories > Terminal and type sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:35] <defrysk> oops wrong link
[02:36] <dysmas|work> [H4z3] : be sure to close synaptic first
[02:36] <[H4z3] > yeh its all closed :S
[02:36] <derjoerg> so the vserver community pointed out, that I should ask the ubuntu-community if there are some special hacks in the ubuntu-distro for evms
[02:37] <willi1> Hello
[02:37] <IdleOne> hello willi1
[02:37] <derjoerg> do I have to make something special to get a vanilla kernel running on ubuntu-dapper?
[02:37] <[H4z3] > wait i think i fixed it :D
[02:37] <willi1> How does one update a current 6.06 installation to 6.10 without starting over?
[02:37] <IdleOne> !upgrade | willi1
[02:37] <ubotu> willi1: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:37] <[H4z3] > Yeah i did,, w00t.. thanks for the help anyway guys =)
[02:37] <alanhaggai> I have just done it willi1
[02:38] <alanhaggai> But now it is not allowing me to log on.
[02:38] <NoFX_SBC> i running ubuntu-dapper in a latitude 120l but wireless not show in lspci, any idea?! sorry, my english is bad! :)
[02:38] <alanhaggai> I just see the mouse pointer and Gnome is not loading.
[02:39] <willi1> I have commercial software installed and want to make sure I dont screw it up in the process, it will cost me to get a replacement key
[02:39] <derjoerg> hawk: I tried first, but the kernel-patch-vserver for dapper doesn't work
[02:39] <AJIEXA> hi all
[02:39] <alanhaggai> I see willi1
[02:39] <mwe> willi1: there are no guarantees. write down your keys
[02:39] <kliklik> Does anyone have idea how to copy a file from the dvd that has read errors? I've tried to create an image with gnomebaker, but the mounted image has the same error. Not really helpful :)
[02:39] <erUSUL> NoFX_SBC: does the laptop have a disble/enable wirelless button most have one...
[02:39] <IdleOne> alanhaggai: hit ctrl+alt+F1 then login and type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:40] <AJIEXA> what do you think about http://www.egocrew.de/fw/  - i use their configuration  - is this right ????
[02:40] <mwe> willi1: it usually works, though
[02:40] <mepa|Yancho> how do u suggest i partition a 15GB disk please? This box is going to be used for office work only.
[02:40] <alanhaggai> IdleOne: Thank you. I will try that.
[02:40] <NoFX_SBC> erUSUL yeap, fn+f2 but dont work
[02:40] <SurfnKid> anyone know how to check the CUPS printer on a remote machine so I can set it up on my local ubuntu box for remote printing? (its an HP 3330)
[02:40] <NoFX_SBC> erUSUL in setup de wireless is on
[02:40] <Elborgo> ok I'm going to #ubuntu-it ... bye
[02:40] <willi1> Thanks, I will give it a go.  The key is not visible, you download it from the site and it installs it somewhere on the system
[02:40] <IdleOne> alanhaggai: ctrl+alt+F7 should get you back here
[02:41] <mindstate> Yancho, just use the whole thing :-)
[02:41] <alanhaggai> IdleOne: I think Gnome has got removed somehow.
[02:41] <Yancho> mindstate so i just do 256 for swap and the rest for root ?
[02:42] <IdleOne> alanhaggai: you can always reinstall with sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[02:42] <erUSUL> NoFX_SBC: can you paste 'dmesg' and 'lspci -v' and 'cat /proc/interrupts' to a pastebin?
[02:42] <mindstate> Yancho, well how much physical ram do you have
[02:42] <erUSUL> !paste | NoFX_SBC
[02:42] <ubotu> NoFX_SBC: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:42] <Yancho> mindstate 512
[02:43] <mindstate> Yancho, try 1GB of swap
[02:43] <mindstate> Yancho, and the rest for root
[02:43] <mwe> I have 2GB of swap but it is never used
[02:44] <Yancho> oki :)
[02:45] <alanhaggai> I am not able to open 'Help'
[02:45] <mindstate> anyone hear of psp eye-toy mini working on ubuntu?
[02:45] <mindstate> i've seen some stuff for the regular eye-toy, but not the mini
[02:45] <willi1> Thank you mwe, upgrade is in progress
[02:45] <mindstate> psp* ps2
[02:46] <alanhaggai> It just says 'Starting Help' in the task bar.
[02:47] <Menisk> mindstate, plug it in and do the method for the normal eye-toy. I would imagine that the hardware is the same.
[02:47] <Zaggynl> wth
[02:47] <Zaggynl> Everytime I browse to a certain folder in Nautilus, it crashes
[02:47] <mindstate> Menisk, i've tried, the cam is just all these colors and lines :-/
[02:47] <Zaggynl> ><
[02:48] <Menisk> mindstate, Dunno then.
[02:48] <mindstate> i'll see wut i can dig up
[02:48] <darganot> anyone talking about mint in here?
[02:48] <defrysk> no
[02:48] <rdz> hello everyone
[02:49] <rdz> !font
[02:49] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[02:50] <Zaggynl> darganot, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:50] <darganot> k
[02:50] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> hi everyone
[02:50] <_Freedom0_> hello
[02:50] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> can anyone help me install Xgl on Ubuntu?
[02:50] <IdleOne> !xgl
[02:50] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:50] <Zobik> in this chat was girls
[02:51] <IdleOne> Zobik: there was but they all left
[02:51] <IdleOne> they are in #girls-chat now
[02:51] <Zobik> IdleOne >> i whant chat with girl
[02:51] <NoEvidenZ> Zobik: Dpm
[02:51] <kev_b> anyone know how gdmflexiserver or user switching in gnome works?
[02:51] <mindstate> Zobik, take a cold shower
[02:51] <NoEvidenZ> OH DEAR GOD! I can't type. =[
[02:52] <NoEvidenZ> Zobik: Don't we all?
[02:52] <yomm> hornybuntu , the new distro for horny ubuntufreaks is out now :p
[02:52] <Zobik> NoEvidenZ >> no girls on this channal
[02:52] <Lynoure> Zobik: on irc all are just text
[02:52] <agliv5> Greetings :) I had to install glib 2.12 as a dependency and, inorder to do so, first had to sudo apt-get remove libjlib2.0.0  I've since successfully installed glib 2.12 and ubuntu is still running but as you can imagine, alot is messed up ;) can anyone help me fix it?
[02:52] <NoEvidenZ> Zobik: Orly?
[02:53] <Zobik> NoEvidenZ >>wery many users in this channal
[02:53] <Lynoure> !offtopic
[02:53] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:53] <IdleOne> Zobik: try ##windows alot of girls there
[02:53] <przemek> Poland
[02:53] <NoEvidenZ> Lol
[02:53] <_Freedom0_> hello!who knwos how to use .tortoisecvs ?
[02:53] <przemek> xubuntu-pl
[02:53] <IdleOne> NoEvidenZ: :)
[02:53] <baLi_brondonK_cu> trygt
[02:53] <przemek> #ubuntu-pl
[02:54] <IdleOne> przemek: /j #ubuntu-pl
[02:54] <baLi_brondonK_cu> #bali
[02:54] <przemek> Poland ?
[02:54] <IdleOne> !pl
[02:54] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[02:55] <catalytic> hi ppl
[02:55] <IdleOne> hey
[02:55] <catalytic> i need a hand with addlng links
[02:55] <catalytic> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=45748&page=5
[02:55] <catalytic> at the bottom of the page
[02:55] <catalytic> it advises where maya looks for the fonts
[02:56] <catalytic> and that i just need to link some fonts to those locations
[02:56] <catalytic> i was wondering what they are referring to there
[02:56] <snail> does anyone have hints on getting japanese fonts to work in java for dapper?
[02:57] <meandi> hello?
[02:57] <snail> meandi: hi
[02:57] <agliv5> Can anybody help me fix GLIB dependencies?
[02:57] <Pici> catalytic: ln -s /path/to/font.ttf /path/to/link/location/
[02:57] <meandi> i was wondering if it was possible to move the trash bin from the panel to the desktop?
[02:58] <jrib> meandi: remove it from your panel and add it to your desktop
[02:58] <jrib> !icons | meandi
[02:58] <ubotu> meandi: Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (Gnome) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)
[02:58] <meandi> thank you
[02:59] <catalytic> ah ok cheers pici
[02:59] <Madeye> guys, I'm trying to get my webcam running, when I do lsusb I get Bus 003 Device 002: ID 041e:401a Creative Technology, Ltd , so the system can see it (sort 0f) but all other applications that uses webcam cannot see it, This is xawtv-3.95, running on Linux/i686 (2.6.17-10-generic)
[02:59] <Madeye> can't open /dev/video0: No such device
[02:59] <Madeye> v4l-conf had some trouble, trying to continue anyway
[02:59] <Madeye> v4l2: open /dev/video0: No such device
[02:59] <Madeye> v4l2: open /dev/video0: No such device
[02:59] <Madeye> v4l: open /dev/video0: No such device
[02:59] <catalytic> are they like alias'?
[02:59] <Madeye> no video grabber device available
[02:59] <Madeye> ; Please help
[02:59] <jrib> !paste | Madeye
[02:59] <ubotu> Madeye: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:59] <silya> Hi all! Howto fix problem with named: FORMERR resolving 'somehost.com'?
[02:59] <_Freedom0_> pelase could someone help me about using tortoisecvs?
[02:59] <Madeye> ops, I'm sorry didn't expect them to go into multilines :(
[03:00] <catalytic> do you konw where fonts are stored by default Pici?
[03:00] <NoEvidenZ> god damn, I've killed something. =[
[03:00] <n2diy_> any idea why all the files in my ~/.kde dir are owned by root?
[03:00] <jrib> n2diy_: usually happens when someone runs gui apps with sudo
[03:00] <jrib> (fix it)
[03:00] <IdleOne> _Freedom0_: im guessing tortoisecvs is a non-ubuntu repository wich means it isnt supported and may break your system. what is it you want to install?
[03:01] <Pici> !fonts | catalytic check in the manually part of this guide:
[03:01] <ubotu> catalytic check in the manually part of this guide:: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[03:01] <przemek> hi
[03:01] <przemek> ubuntu pl /
[03:01] <jrib> !pl
[03:01] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[03:01] <Pici> przemek: /j #ubuntu-pl
[03:02] <n2diy_> jrib: ok, can I chown ~/ recursively to reset the ownership?
[03:02] <jrib> n2diy_: yep
[03:02] <_Freedom0_> im enwbie and juste installed Ubuntu 6.10 and my modem isnt supported so why i found a tuto asking me to dowbload this source :cvs -d:ext:anoncvs@cvs.infradead.org:/home/cvs co usbatm
[03:02] <_Freedom0_> cd usbatm/
[03:02] <_Freedom0_> cvs -d:ext:anoncvs@cvs.infradead.org:/home/cvs co usbatm
[03:02] <_Freedom0_> cd usbatm/
[03:02] <jrib> !paste | _Freedom0_
[03:02] <ubotu> _Freedom0_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:02] <meandi> Is there a way to resize the icons that are on your desktop?
[03:03] <catalytic> cheers pici
[03:03] <n2diy_> jrib: chown !/ * -r newwowner?
[03:03] <jrib> !dialup | _Freedom0_
[03:03] <ubotu> _Freedom0_: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[03:03] <_Freedom0_> dsl
[03:03] <IdleOne> !dsl
[03:03] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[03:03] <n2diy_> whoops jrib: chown ~/ * -r newwowner?
[03:03] <_Freedom0_> i ve a zxdsl modem!
[03:03] <jrib> n2diy_: sudo chown -R $USER: ~
[03:03] <agliv5> Greetings all :)  I removed libglib2.0-0 and now everything is all dicked up.  Can anybody please help me fix this?
[03:03] <n2diy_> whoops jrib: tnxs
[03:03] <IdleOne> !language | agliv5
[03:03] <_Freedom0_> ?
[03:03] <ubotu> agliv5: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:03] <jrib> agliv5: can you "unremove" it?
[03:04] <agliv5> ubotu, sorry didn't know d**** up was considerd unapropriate
[03:05] <IdleOne> agliv5: it can be by certain ppl...we have 10yrs olds in this channel :)
[03:05] <aeromix2> hi all.. how can I remove some text from a file which spreads on more than one line?
[03:05] <Kcaj> dicked up, dicked down, dicked all the way around.
[03:05] <IdleOne> !ops
[03:05] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[03:05] <cornelius> agliv5:  use live cd
[03:06] <meandi> How can I make the icons even smaller than the minimum size on GNOME?
[03:06] <Seveas> IdleOne, ?
[03:06] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: ?
[03:06] <Seveas> saw it :)
[03:06] <jrib> aeromix2: example?
[03:06] <IdleOne> Kcaj: using rude langauge after seeing the warning
[03:06] <cornelius> agliv5: then open the terminal
[03:06] <aeromix2> meandi, no way in gnome
[03:06] <NoEvidenZ> tmsnc..
[03:06] <cornelius> agliv5:  mount your hd
[03:06] <IdleOne> ty Seveas  and gnomefreak
[03:06] <SurfnKid> anyone know how to check the CUPS printer on a remote machine so I can set it up on my local ubuntu box for remote printing? (its an HP 3330)
[03:06] <agliv5> cornelius that's a good idea ;) so how do I go about implementing your plan?
[03:06] <cornelius> agliv5: chroot to your linux root
[03:06] <NoEvidenZ> There's something leet about text-based and console stuff, eh?
[03:06] <aeromix2> jrib: I want to remove the text between <script>and </script> in a html file
[03:07] <cornelius> agliv5:  do you have ubuntu live cd?
[03:07] <meandi> Is it possible to make the icons smaller than the minimum size in XGL or Beryl?
[03:07] <agliv5> cornelius yes I do
[03:07] <cornelius> agliv5:  use live cd to boot.
[03:07] <cornelius> agliv5:  then open a terminal
[03:07] <jrib> aeromix2: I'd end up using python since it can make . match newlines.  i'm sure perl would work as well.  I don't know how to do taht in sed
[03:08] <ShankarGanesh> got gud stuff in here
[03:08] <Seveas> jrib, multiline pattern space
[03:08] <Seveas> jrib, very advanced sed :)
[03:08] <aeromix2> jrib: the only solution I was able to think out was to grep the line containg <script> and the one with </script> but I have no idea how to delete lines 12-25 for example
[03:08] <cornelius> agliv5:  mkdir /media/hd?
[03:08] <cornelius> agliv5:  mount /dev/hd? /media/hd?
[03:09] <cornelius> agliv5:  chroot /media/hd?
[03:09] <ShankarGanesh> those who wish to contribute to linux without any programming knowledge, please read this www.nongeeksight.blogspot.com/2006/09/5-ways-to-contribute-to-open-source.html
[03:09] <cornelius> agliv5:  apt-get install ( just install whatever you wnat ) :)
[03:09] <jrib> aeromix2: hmm is <script> and </script> the only thing on the line?  something like sed '/<script>/,/<\/script>d'  *might* work
[03:09] <cornelius> agliv5:  reboot
[03:09] <meandi> is it possible to reduce the size of the icons below the minimum size by reducing the image itself?
[03:09] <cornelius> agliv5:  everything should be fine.
[03:10] <Rogue> Anyone know something about setting up graphire tablets?
[03:10] <aeromix2> jrib: nop.
[03:10] <SynthesiX> Hello
[03:10] <Dh3Y0> i dont think my microphone works
[03:10] <cornelius> agliv5:  if I install linux in hda , then hd? is hda
[03:10] <Dh3Y0> how can i fix my microphone
[03:11] <Dh3Y0> i dont think its working
[03:11] <jrib> aeromix2: works here, let me pastebin the example
[03:11] <meandi> hello?
[03:11] <meandi> is it possible to reduce the size of the icons below the minimum size by reducing the image itself?
[03:11] <n2diy_> If I'm working no a file with VNC, can I save it remotely, and locally?
[03:11] <aeromix2> jrib, ok, mmt
[03:11] <jrib> aeromix2: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3822/
[03:12] <Dh3Y0> IdleOne:
[03:12] <nozey> im trying to make a local repository. i followed these instructions: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=267837&highlight=local+repository , but im getting these erros: gzip: stin: unexpected end of file
[03:12] <userbn> alo
[03:12] <nozey> any ideias?
[03:12] <IdleOne> Dh3Y0: yes
[03:12] <Dh3Y0> IdleOne: my microphone isnt working
[03:12] <agliv5> cornelius got some file transfers going on that have to complete before I can boot from the liveCD... is there anything I should before booting from the liveCD?
[03:12] <IdleOne> Dh3Y0: click on volume control and make sure it isnt muted
[03:13] <mindstate> !7z
[03:13] <SynthesiX> It seems that im in vicious circle with my package manager. There's some package that needs to be installed, it says i have to do apt-get -f install, but it complains that it has to overwrite /sbin/vol_id, which is in package udev. But i cant do anything, like removing udev, cause it wants to install that specific package first somehow (volume_id)
[03:13] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[03:13] <aeromix2> jrib: well, tnx, I'll take a look at it
[03:13] <Dh3Y0> IdleOne: i cant find the volume control
[03:13] <NaPsTeR> multisync doesnt do anything when i hit the sync button
[03:14] <NaPsTeR> wat can i do?
[03:14] <Tigge> Anyone know if I can use jackd with two soundcards, taking input (mic) from one and output it to another (speaker)
[03:14] <Tigge> ?
[03:14] <IdleOne> Dh3Y0: you using xubuntu right?
[03:14] <Dh3Y0> IdleOne: yes
[03:14] <jrib> aeromix2: I'd still just use a python script using re.DOTALL.  Then you could just do <script>.*</script> as the match
[03:14] <jrib> aeromix2: or look into the multiline pattern space Seveas mentioned
[03:14] <IdleOne> Dh3Y0: try #xubuntu and ask I am not very familiar with that window manager :/
[03:14] <aeromix2> jrib: I don't know python at all:)
[03:15] <jrib> aeromix2: perl?
[03:15] <meandi> how do i change the physical size of the icons on my desktop?
[03:15] <meandi> I really need to be smaller than the default minimum.
[03:15] <Dh3Y0> IdleOne: thanks
[03:15] <Seveas> meandi, rightclick and select resize
[03:15] <meandi> I want it to be smaller than the default minimum.
[03:15] <aeromix2> jrib: just a bit of C:)
[03:15] <martin__> Hello, please I have a problem with a USB mp3/ogg player. Ubuntu edgy finds it, but when I drag some music on it and do remove davice, it never finishes and nothing gets transfered. The player is trekstore i.Beat 1GB. Do you have any idea what could I try? Google says nothing
[03:15] <silya> where I can disable IPv6 networking in ubuntu?
[03:15] <catalytic> is ghostscript and truetype the same?
[03:16] <Pici> !ipv6 | silya
[03:16] <ubotu> silya: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[03:16] <meandi> is it possible to make these icons really small in Xgl or Beryl?
[03:16] <meandi> I don
[03:16] <meandi> These icons are still too big.
[03:16] <_Archangel> i'd be happy with just having beryl installed
[03:17] <jrib> aeromix2: meh, the example on the pastebin does what you need I think.  If "<script>" doesn't start a line, then just change the pattern to \s*<script> to take care of leading space.  Otherwise, learning a good scripting language will be helpful anyway and it won't be hard if you know C already
[03:17] <Rogue> where can I go to study how to install a graphire tablet?
[03:17] <aeromix2> jrib: I know.. I've already bought a book on python, but didn't have time for it..
[03:18] <NaPsTeR> the sync button is doin nuttin in multisync. wat can i do?
[03:19] <agliv5> What is the fastest way to determine if my ubuntu is 6.06?
[03:19] <jrib> !version | agliv5
[03:19] <ubotu> agliv5: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[03:20] <Tius> alo
[03:20] <cornelius> \help
[03:20] <_Archangel> sudo lsb_release -a
[03:20] <meandi> HELLO?!  I want to know if I can make the icons smaller than the default minimum through some program?!
[03:20] <jrib> !repeat | meandi
[03:20] <ubotu> meandi: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:20] <n2diy_> If I'm working no a file with VNC, can I save it remotely, and locally?
[03:20] <idefix> how can ubuntu print an envelope from bottom? :S
[03:21] <martin__> Hello, please I have a problem with a USB mp3/ogg player. Ubuntu edgy finds it, but when I drag some music on it and do remove davice, it never finishes and nothing gets transfered. The player is trekstore i.Beat 1GB. Do you have any idea what could I try? Google says nothing
[03:22] <Pici> martin__: are you unplugging it before the activity light stops?
[03:22] <agliv5> thanks :)
[03:23] <martin__> there is no activity light ... the display shows connection, but I waited for over two minutes
[03:23] <martin__> (and I tried to transfer one song)
[03:23] <Brady_M> idefix: what are you trying to print an envelope from the bottom ?
[03:24] <idefix> Brady_M there's an option to select "from top" or "from bottom"...
[03:24] <meandi> Im trying to modify an image file in /usr/share/pixmaps, but it says that I do not have permission to modify it.  How do i get permission?
[03:25] <Pici> martin__: Can you transfer stuff onto any other kind of USB storage without problems?
[03:25] <martin__> yep, I have two other scik and there is no problem
[03:25] <NaPsTeR> does anyone here use Kandy?
[03:25] <Pici> hm
[03:26] <martin__> Pici: I looked into lsusb and it is not listed
[03:26] <martin__> Pici: Could that have something to do with it?
[03:26] <Pici> martin__: I'm not sure
[03:26] <NoEvidenZ> Is there a way to copy text from the screen while i'm in a TTY?
[03:26] <Brady_M> idefix: what I'd do, because I am sure something would go wrong, use the proper envelope template.
[03:27] <jrib> meandi: it would be better if you used a custom icon set instead.  Even if it is just a copy of your current one with the icon modified
[03:28] <NoEvidenZ> Anyone?
[03:28] <Rogue> Meandi:  I an Icon from the directory tou gave and opened it in gimp.
[03:28] <Brady_M> NoEvidenZ: Nay
[03:29] <NoEvidenZ> Brady_M: Can't be done? D=
[03:29] <meandi> How do I replace the icons in /usr/share/pixmaps?  It says I don
[03:29] <Brady_M> NoEvidenZ: YOu can make a screen shot by hitting printscreen,
[03:29] <Rogue> Meandi:  I then went to image/scale image and changed the haved the pixel
[03:29] <meandi> It says I don't have permission.
[03:29] <jrib> meandi: did you see what I said?
[03:29] <Rogue> meandi:  *shrugs* I have no Idea
[03:30] <meandi> jrib, I did see what you said, but Id rather just resize it on my own.
[03:30] <dmc68> good morning everyone
[03:30] <_Archangel> when you reboot and go to grub to expert boot mode, how do you change the root password so gksudo allows the pass to work ?
[03:30] <dmc68>  good morning everyone. I just put up a new public wiki based off of the GPL license. The mission of the wiki is to provide a way for patients who take medication and experience side effects to define side effects in way they understand and share that info with each other. If you would like to please feel free to contribute. Thank you for your time
[03:31] <meandi> Now I just want to know how I can get permission to replace the old icons with the modified ones.
[03:31] <jrib> meandi: you should edit things that are controlled by the package manager.  The package manager will still believe that file is what it is in the package and will replace it on an upgrade....
[03:31] <jrib> shouldn't*
[03:31] <mobal> hi
[03:31] <Pici> dmc68: This isnt really the place to announce that
[03:31] <meandi> :(
[03:31] <meandi> So im stuck with these big icons?  :(
[03:32] <mobal> need help
[03:32] <Brady_M> dmc68: I'm still drinkin' coffee
[03:32] <mobal> cannot load speedstep-centrino module on startup
[03:32] <mindstate> big icons stink
[03:32] <mobal> /etc/modules not works :(
[03:32] <mobal> what to do
[03:32] <mobal> ?
[03:32] <dmc68> if their is not people in here who are not on meds and do not use the net then I agree Pici, and I apologize if it has caused problems for anyone.
[03:32] <agliv5> Greetings all :)  I removed libglib2.0-0 and now everything is all messed-up.  cornelius suggested utilizing a liveCD; however I just checked and my ubuntu is 6.06 but the only liveCD that I can find is 5.10 :( Will that still work or should I try something else?
[03:32] <pawel_> meandi didi U use sudo?
[03:32] <jrib> !sudo | meandi
[03:32] <ubotu> meandi: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:32] <_Archangel> i'm currently upgrading from 5.10
[03:32] <meandi> How do i use sudo?
[03:32] <_Archangel> and it's working fine
[03:33] <pawel_> i.e.
[03:33] <mobal> cannot load speedstep-centrino module on startup
[03:33] <Rogue> Terminal
[03:33] <mobal> cannot load speedstep-centrino module on startup what to do if /etc/modules not works?
[03:33] <Pici> dmc68 didnt even give us the website... oh well
[03:33] <pawel_> sudo mc  then enter your own password
[03:33] <mindstate> meandi, sudo command
[03:33] <pawel_> it allows U to become a let's say root
[03:34] <pawel_> exactly, not only mc but all commands
[03:34] <Rogue> Anyone know how to set up a graphire tablet?
[03:34] <bulmer> agliv5: maybe you can just download that major library from an ubuntur repository?
[03:34] <agliv5> meandi you tyep sudo "something" in a terminal, it will ask for the root password and then excute "something" as the root
[03:34] <jrib> agliv5: the desktop cd is also the live cd
[03:35] <jrib> ... in 6.06 and 6.10
[03:35] <agliv5> bulmer the problem is that assuming I had a correct liveCD I closed all terminal windows and can't open any new ones anymore...
[03:35] <erez> can anyone help me on screen resolution problem for lenovo 3000 n100
[03:35] <NaPsTeR> how can i check wich port my phone is connected to?
[03:35] <bulmer> agliv5 you can not access a console?
[03:36] <agliv5> jrib oh that's good, so I'll just redownload the desktop-cd and get back to you
[03:36] <agliv5> bulmer no
[03:36] <bulmer> NaPsTeR: your phone? maybe look in the back of your puter?
[03:36] <Brady_M> mobal: If you want to log into the GUI: goto System>Administration>Login Window>Type your password>Checkmark Allow Local administrator login : but emm, I don't know if that option if in v5
[03:36] <mobal> cannot load speedstep-centrino module on startup what to do if /etc/modules not works?
[03:36] <NaPsTeR> puter?
[03:36] <NaPsTeR> im talking bout my cellphone
[03:36] <bulmer> agliv5: nothing in ctrl+alt+f1 or f2 or f3 ?
[03:36] <mindstate> bulmer, i dont think he means that lol
[03:36] <burepe> I want to update from php4 to php5. Do I just install php5 and I am good to go?
[03:37] <agliv5> bulmer basically the windows that were open when I removed the package and that's it, can't start anything
[03:37] <n2diy_> ! kiosk
[03:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kiosk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:37] <bulmer> agliv5 when I say console not an Xterm, am referring to tty via ctrl+alt+f1
[03:38] <agliv5> bulmer now I've got a fullscreen terminal and it's asking for a login
[03:38] <bulmer> agliv5: there you go
[03:38] <LjL> !kiosktool | n2diy_
[03:38] <ubotu> kiosktool: tool to configure the KDE kiosk framework. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-1.1ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 433 kB, installed size 1688 kB
[03:38] <n2diy_> LjL: tnxs.
[03:38] <agliv5> bulmer but sudo apt-get install "removed package" doesn't work... I already tried that... :(
[03:39] <n2diy_> LjL: nothing available for gnome?
[03:39] <LjL> !pessulus | n2diy_: sort of, i guess
[03:39] <ubotu> pessulus: lockdown editor for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.1-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 28 kB, installed size 916 kB
[03:40] <kazim59> hi room
[03:40] <Tessa_> Hello, is is possible to enable "use mousewheel on windowtitle to shade/unshade window" in gnome? If so, how could i do that?
[03:40] <mobal> cannot load speedstep-centrino module on startup what to do if /etc/modules not works?
[03:40] <bulmer> agliv5: that was one major library you took out..umm..try wget just that library, i dont know where is the ubuntu's binaries download site is though
[03:40] <kazim59> i want to run ubuntu in the minimal possible mode... no need of X.... i want to capture audio and it needs high processing
[03:40] <NaPsTeR> i need to connnect my cellphone to my computer so i wanted to use Kandy...but its not picking it up. wat do i do?
[03:40] <kazim59> ^^ video...
[03:41] <agliv5> bulmer I had to install glib 2.12 as a dependency and, inorder to do so, first had to sudo apt-get remove libjlib2.0.0  I've since successfully installed glib 2.12 but everything is still messed up
[03:41] <kazim59> how do i start ubuntu in minimal possible mode.... interactive startup?
[03:41] <Rogue> Anyone know how to set up a Wacom Tablet?
[03:41] <jrib> agliv5: what errors do you get when trying to install the old one
[03:41] <yomm> what is a good VNC-client 4 Ubuntu ??
[03:42] <kazim59> how do i start ubuntu in minimal possible mode.... loading only the required services... no X ... interactive startup?
[03:43] <matthew0507abc> anyone here know how to use azureus? it said there might be a problem caused my comp is DHT Firewalled, how do i fix that?
[03:43] <NaPsTeR> so...any1 know wat i can do?
[03:43] <bulmer> kazim59: umm let it boot up all the way, then go to init level 3 or whatever level where X is not started
[03:44] <kazim59> bulmer: how do i change init level to 3?
[03:44] <bulmer> NaPsTeR: how did you check that your computer has not detected your CP?
[03:44] <kazim59> its 3 right
[03:44] <agliv5> bulmer I guess that was a typeo the package that I removed was libglib2.0.0
[03:44] <bulmer> kazim59: umm am not 100% sure, man init  or try just for kicks  telinit 3
[03:45] <NaPsTeR> i plugged it in...it detects a memory stick but this program Kandy cant find it
[03:45] <Byan> Make temp directory writable for PHP!
[03:45] <Byan> how do I do that..?
[03:45] <kazim59> kicks not found
[03:45] <bulmer> agliv5: i understood what you meant, what i suggest is if you can somehow grab just that binary from an ubuntu site..not the whole package
[03:46] <kazim59> i can change initlevel in inittab for a while and reboot?
[03:46] <bulmer> kazim59 :   man init
[03:46] <bulmer> kazim59  one should be able to switch between init levels
[03:46] <bulmer> without a reboot
[03:47] <kazim59> telinit 3 said nothing
[03:47] <[H4z3] > Hey can anyone help me with apache?
[03:47] <kazim59> nothing happened
[03:47] <cmt^^_> what's wrong when I get this errormessage: http://pastebin.se/6928 <-? It happends everytime I try to rip a dvd using dvd::rip
[03:48] <bulmer> kazim59: you can check which level you are on
[03:48] <Hoosteen> hiya peeps!
[03:48] <NoEvidenZ> Gah!
[03:48] <bulmer> off hand cant remember the command to check your level
[03:48] <lenaud01> there a way to shut it off for it does not ask for the cd when I try to install new packages?
[03:48] <NoEvidenZ> I randomly pressed buttons in the terminal and everything locked up.
[03:48] <[H4z3] > Anyone with apache knowledge?
[03:48] <NoEvidenZ> It said something about "No other window." in the bottom corner
[03:49] <Lynoure> [H4z3] : a bit more specific question, please, unless you are taking count
[03:49] <_Archangel> !apache | [H4z3] 
[03:49] <ubotu> [H4z3] : LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[03:49] <_Archangel> that was helpful (not)
[03:49] <Dh3Y0> how can i allow other users to use all the files on the computer
[03:49] <lenaud01> there a way to shut it off for it does not ask for the cd when I try to install new packages?
[03:50] <Ingmar^> I seem to have problems with the ubuntu livecd: whenever I try to partition, or use the install on the desktop, it says "Disc not found" anyone able to help ?
[03:50] <[H4z3] > Well when someone typs my ip and goes to my server. is says forbidden
[03:50] <[H4z3] > and wont allow access... yet it worked fine earlier
[03:50] <_Archangel> forbidden or connection refused ?
[03:50] <rio> 2 things....one, my terminal isnt returning a prompt.  how would i fix that?
[03:51] <[H4z3] > forbidden
 use chmod -R 777 /location_to_disk
[03:51] <Lynoure> [H4z3] : Have you checked the file permissions already?
[03:51] <_Archangel> Lynoure : file or folder permissions ?
[03:51] <[H4z3] > i think so... how would i do that? just to make sure i done it right
[03:51] <variant> guess the message of hte day will have to be changed for feisty.. The programs included with the Ubuntu system are free software;
[03:51] <variant> the exact distribution terms for each program are described in the
[03:51] <variant> oops
[03:51] <variant> individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright.
[03:51] <rio> two, one of my azureus downloads is 10 gb, and at 60%, i've downloaded 16gb. whats going on?
[03:52] <xx> yacc -d ./parse.y
[03:52] <xx> make: yacc: Command not found
[03:52] <xx> make: *** [parse.c]  Error 127
[03:52] <Lynoure> _Archangel: checking both makes sense
[03:52] <xx> what's that mean?
[03:52] <aleksanteri> how tor restart the panels?
[03:52] <xx> trying to install FLEX
[03:52] <variant> rio: take a screenshot to show us, you were talking about that yesterday
[03:52] <agliv5> bulmer got the package and it appeared to install...
[03:52] <dromer> hi all, I had a dual-boot with XP and just reinstalled, now I lost grub. I remember something about restoring grub with the live-cd. how can I do this?
[03:52] <bulmer> agliv5: alright, i wish you luck
[03:52] <_Archangel> Lynoure : setting folder permissions allows  the entire /www/ to allow access to the server, other wise, if you try to leave the index page, you get forbidden
[03:53] <variant> dromer: in the live cd open a terminal and type grub, you will get a grub shell
[03:53] <variant> dromer: do it as root*
[03:53] <Lynoure> _Archangel: Why are you telling me this?
[03:53] <agliv5> blumer how do I close the terminal window?
[03:53] <_Archangel> i have no idea
[03:53] <_Archangel> lol
[03:53] <_Archangel> sorry
[03:53] <[H4z3] > how do i edit that archangel?
[03:53] <Lynoure> _Archangel: It happens :)
[03:53] <rio> variant where do i leave the pictures?
[03:53] <_Archangel> chmod 755 /www/
[03:53] <dromer> variant: ok
[03:53] <_Archangel> (i think)
[03:53] <dromer> variant: thnx :)
[03:53] <variant> dromer: where is your primary boot partition?
[03:53] <_Archangel> my apache set up did it for me
[03:53] <mindstate> any digital cam usb drivers ?
[03:54] <[H4z3] > that didnt work..
[03:54] <variant> dromer: do you have more than one disk? what parttion is ubuntu installed on?
[03:54] <[H4z3] > yeah mine didnt :P lol
[03:54] <xx> I was trying to install WINE, it said it needed FLEX.  Trying to install FLEX, and 'make' command gives me:
[03:54] <xx> yacc -d ./parse.y
[03:54] <xx> make: yacc: Command not found
[03:54] <xx> make: *** [parse.c]  Error 127
[03:54] <xx> NE ideas?
[03:54] <_Archangel> did you read the conf that came with apache ?
[03:54] <GSchlomka> I try to share folders between my ubuntu host and a win xp box, using microsoft nfs for unix. It works in principle, but does not allow me to login with any existing user. Anyone there who knows what might cause this?
[03:54] <raven> Heya, can someone help me. I can't install my wireless network
[03:54] <pawel_> xx -install yacc
[03:55] <mindstate> xx, sudo apt-get install wine works fine
[03:55] <[H4z3] > i cant find the config... maybe i should re-install
[03:55] <xx> TX, guys, I'll try
[03:55] <michaelpo> how much better is 6.10 compared to 6.06?
[03:55] <variant> dromer: in the grub shellt type "root (hd0,0) to install grub on the mbr of the first hard disk, then do:
[03:55] <_Archangel> remove then re-install
[03:55] <Lynoure> [H4z3] : the configs are in /etc/apache2
[03:55] <rio> variant where do i leave the screenshot?
[03:55] <variant> dromer: setup (hd0) if you have installed ubuntu to the first partiition of hte first disk
[03:55] <variant> rio: photobucket
[03:56] <agliv5> bulmer how do I get back to my desktop?
[03:56] <raven> How can I install my wireless network, since Ubuntu can't automatically detect it?
[03:56] <bulmer> agliv5: maybe you can restart X or try control+alt+f7
[03:56] <variant> im off, its too sunny outside for irc
[03:56] <bulmer> or maybe ctrl+alt+f8
[03:57] <raven> too sunny for IRC? No way :P
[03:57] <michaelpo> does the feisty beta crash a lot?
[03:57] <agliv5> bulmer ctrl alt f7 worked thanks :)
[03:57] <dromer> variant: have to boot into the live-cd first ;)
[03:57] <[H4z3] > thanks... which file would i edit to stop the forbidden stuff? srry for the n00bish question
[03:57] <bulmer> agliv5: alright!!
[03:58] <agliv5> bulmer everything is still all messed up and I'
[03:58] <agliv5> bulmer m afraid to restart...
[03:58] <variant> dromer: ok, take note of the instructions and enter them. i am off :) later
[03:58] <ubu_> hello, how can i find where i installed a package in ubuntu? in gentoo it's in /var/db/pkg
[03:58] <dromer> variant: that's all I need? many thnx :)
[03:58] <variant> dromer: indeed
[03:59] <variant> dromer: remember that /dev/hda1 is (hd0,0) in grub
[03:59] <bieb> I am looking for a motherboard recommendation. I am building a 939 socket system to run ubuntu on..
[03:59] <agliv5> bulmer however now would be a good time to upgrade to 6.10 ;) If it doesn't work then I can always download the 6.06 cd?
[03:59] <raven> I need help installing my wireless network, anyone can help?
[03:59] <erez> can anyone help me on screen resolution problem for lenovo 3000 n100
[03:59] <GSchlomka>  I try to share folders between my ubuntu host and a win xp box, using microsoft nfs for unix. It works in principle, but does not allow me to login with any existing user. Anyone there who knows what might cause this?
[04:00] <ubu_> raven:wich version of ubnuntu and wich card
[04:00] <rrohde> question: what's the *most* compatible wifi card under linux? (and possibly works w/o ndiswrappers)?
[04:00] <raven> the .10 version... and wait, I am not actaully sure what the card is :D it's inbuilt
[04:00] <bulmer> agliv5: i have not done upgrades like that..via cd's
[04:01] <ubu_> rrohde: i have a rt2500...you are not bothered by a firmware and it's compatible ubuntu and it's 100% free software
[04:01] <mneptok> rrohde: intel 2915/2200 and 3945
[04:01] <ubu_> bulmer:lspci
[04:01] <rrohde> ubu_:  mneptok: thanks
[04:01] <agliv5> bulmer no I would either try and fix 6.06 with a liveCD or scrap 6.06 and new install 6.10
[04:02] <ubu_> rrohde:so if it's a 2200 it's reconised by ubuntu
[04:02] <variant> rio: avoid the rt2*** based cards, allthough supported with free software they don't support linux-wireless-extensions which makse them a little harder to manage
[04:02] <raven> Is there a way to see what the card is via ubuntu?
[04:02] <ubu_> rrohde:it should reconise also the others cards
[04:02] <rrohde> realtek that is?
[04:02] <agliv5> bulmer preferably fix 6.06, don't want any data loss...
[04:02] <bulmer> agliv5: it is up to you, you can learn lots of things repairing if you have time or just download the 6.10
[04:02] <variant> raven: sudo -i && update-pciids && lspci
[04:02] <mneptok> rrohde: are you looking for PCI, PCI-E, PCMCIA?
[04:02] <raven> Ok ty variant
[04:02] <ubu_> raven:open a terminal type sudo su and your password then type lspci
[04:02] <rrohde> mneptop PCI mainly.
[04:03] <rrohde> mneptok:
[04:03] <ubu_> raven:you should have the card's name
[04:03] <rio> variant you sure that message was for me? dont know what you are talking about
[04:03] <bulmer> agliv5: oh its a production system already? you may be better doing a backup first
[04:03] <rio> variant http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u218/JayPro1979/Screenshot.png
[04:03] <variant> ubu_: it's better to use sudo -i
[04:03] <agliv5> bulmer too late, already restarted... whish me luck :)
[04:03] <raven> I _should_ have. Maybe I should go back to windows so I can see it over there?
[04:04] <ubu_> variant:thanks
[04:04] <[H4z3] > Anyone know what file i would edit to stop visitors seeing "forbidden" when they visit my server
[04:04] <NoEvidenZ> anyone here use tmsnc?
[04:04] <bulmer> agliv5: alright, i wish you luck
[04:04] <mneptok> rrohde: tough to find Intel PCI stuff. look at the MadWiFi project.
[04:04] <raven> I will come back and ask again soon
[04:04] <variant> rio: I don't know why, check the actual size fo the downloaded files to see if it is indeed 16GB
[04:05] <variant> rapid: did lspci not work?
[04:05] <bulmer> [H4z3] : you can put .access files in directories..there is an apache channel to get you some assist
[04:05] <[H4z3] > ok thanks
[04:05] <rio> variant also, if you notice the terminal, theres no prompt.... (though i may just need to restart)
[04:05] <agliv5> bulmer there were some other things missing.... I've only got a terminal, but I'm not worse off than before ;)
[04:06] <ubu_> raven:you could also see if it's suported by ubuntu in system->Administration->Networking
[04:06] <g333k_work> hi, how can I enable my network device? I tried with #ifconfig eth0 up,  but didnt work, any clue?
[04:06] <rio> variant well, it just says 10gb.  so i dont know..
[04:06] <ubu_> g333k_work:what's your card
[04:06] <g333k_work> ubu_, PCI ?
[04:07] <mariusz> czarnythir
[04:07] <ubu_> g333k_work:what's the erorr message
[04:07] <g333k_work> ohh
[04:07] <ubu_> g333k_work:so it's not a wireless card
[04:07] <burepe> what do I put in a test php file?
[04:07] <g333k_work> ubu_, nope
[04:08] <genome> Quick newbie question - I'm getting a new computer with an ASUS P5B board (intel) - I'd like to install Ubuntu - which version should I download?
[04:08] <ubu_> genome:the 6.06 has long term support and the 6.10 has newer programs
[04:08] <agliv5> bulmer If I wanted to upgrade now to 6.10 must I first somehow backup /home/usr ?
[04:09] <g333k_work> ubu_, when I do: #ifconfig eth0 up, The output is: "eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device"
[04:09] <bulmer> agliv5: only files you need for your data, not system files
[04:09] <ubu_> g333k_work:cat /proc/net/dev
[04:09] <genome> ubu_:  Does the x86 version support 64 bit with intel?
[04:09] <_Archangel> eth9 or wan0 fir wireless, isn't it wan (something) ?
[04:09] <Frezeeer> net
[04:09] <agliv5> bulmer only my personal user files, but I have to backup before doing anything major?
[04:09] <bulmer> g333k_work: does eth0 exist? loo at /etc/network/interfaces
[04:10] <IdleOne> agliv5: always a good idea to backup
[04:10] <bulmer> agliv5: I would if am doing major stuff
[04:10] <g333k_work> ubu_, OhhI see eth2 and eth3 there.... why they are not eth0 and eth1?
[04:10] <agliv5> I guess my question is If I were to download 6.10 and install it would it overwrite the data that is currently in /home/ ?
[04:11] <ubu_> g333k_work:don't know mabe udev rules...so try to up your eth2 and eth3
[04:11] <bieb> I am looking for a motherboard recommendation. I am building a 939 socket system to run ubuntu on..
[04:11] <g333k_work> ubu_, can I change it to eth0 and eth1?
[04:11] <bulmer> agliv5: I dont think it would
[04:11] <ubu_> g333k_work:yes with udev rules but i don't know how to do it
[04:12] <Nyper> i have an install Q. anybody got a second?
[04:12] <Ingmar^> I seem to have problems with the ubuntu livecd: whenever I try to partition, or use the install on the desktop, it says "no device found" anyone able to help ?
[04:12] <ubu_> g333k_work:/etc/udev/rules.d
[04:12] <bulmer> g333k_work: use /etc/init.d/networking  restart  it will auto detect which ones you have
[04:12] <genome> ubu_:  Thanks btw
[04:12] <agliv5> bulmer next step is liveCD then I'll decide what to do from there.  Thanks for your help!!!!
[04:13] <bulmer> agliv5: no sweat..just be patience :)
[04:13] <g333k_work> bulmer, it just assign ip address and networking information to network devices
[04:13] <g333k_work> ubu_, there are many scripts
[04:13] <bulmer> g333k_work: it takes care of your networking needs
[04:13] <pbureau> g333k_work, if you type " lspci | grep ethernet " whats the result?
[04:14] <ubu_> mabe:25-iftab.rules
[04:14] <Nyper> anyone?: I am trying to install Ub 6.10. My video card is an eVGA GeForce 7800 GT. I boot to the Ub cd, hit enter to begin installation. First screen is Ubuntu logo with progress bar. Looks fine. Then goes to second screen that is very scrambled and unreadable. Suggestions??
[04:14] <IdleOne> Nyper: start in safe graphics mode
[04:15] <g333k_work> pbureau: nothing
[04:15] <bulmer> Nyper: I suggest you select the lower resolution at install, like 800x600
[04:15] <Nyper> idle: tried that. same results
[04:15] <Nyper> bulmer: how? didnt see an option for that
[04:15] <bulmer> Nyper: f3 I believe, look at the boot menu
[04:15] <bulmer> its in the bottom
[04:15] <raven> Hello again, I need to set up the Atheros AR5006EG Wireless Network Adapter to work with ubuntu. Is this possible?
[04:16] <Nyper> bulmer: ok thanks. probably overlooked it. will try it when i get home tonight
[04:16] <bulmer> np
[04:16] <Nyper> take care
[04:16] <bulmer> have a good day
[04:16] <queuetue> I'm running a new dapper install, and I don't seem to have an /etc/ld.so.conf - is this normal?  If so, where do I add libraries for ldconfig?
[04:17] <covOPprometheus> can anyone tell me, how I can define that the autoupdater doesn't want to update certain packages?
[04:18] <raven> I need to set up the Atheros AR5006EG Wireless Network Adapter to work with ubuntu. Is this possible?
[04:18] <Lionheart> Hello
[04:19] <raven> Hi
[04:19] <Lionheart> Just got Ubuntu, first linux os :D
[04:19] <raven> Me too ^^
[04:19] <n2diy_> queuetue: take a look at system-admin-synaptic, and search around in there.
[04:20] <bulmer> queuetue: ubuntu uses slightly different than other distro, try doing a man modprobe.conf
[04:20] <queuetue> modprobe?  That's for modules, isn't it?  Are libraries handled there?
[04:20] <Yancho> hehe me too Lionheart :)
[04:20] <bulmer> Lionheart: and raven well start playing around with it...you'l lilably can learn a few.. :)
[04:20] <queuetue> n2diy_: synaptic handles libraries?  I though tit was an apt-get frontend.
[04:21] <Yancho> anyone knows how i can start sshd on it so i can start apt-getting some libraries pls ?
[04:21] <raven> I would love to start playing with it, but first I'd need to know how to set up the network card
[04:21] <bulmer> queuetue: modules are libraries
[04:21] <Lionheart> My USB headset isn't working, wheres a good place to start in sorting that out?
[04:21] <n2diy_> queuetue: yes it is, but your library maybe available as a package?h
[04:21] <queuetue> n2diy_: It's not an installation problem, I just need ot know how to add a new directory for ldconfig to find.
[04:22] <n2diy_> queuetue: ok, gl.
[04:22] <bulmer> Lionheart:  start with  system-->administration --> Device manager
[04:22] <queuetue> bulmer: Well, they are *kernel* libraries, sure.  But you can't, say, link against them.
[04:24] <ShankarGanesh> ;
[04:24] <raven> I need to set up the Atheros AR5006EG Wireless Network Adapter to work with Ubuntu.
[04:25] <bulmer> queuetue: i have not added recent libraries, it seems ubuntu is not designed as a development platform..but am sure it is there just named differently
[04:25] <sandyeggoboy> mode +tncLf #ubuntu-unregged
[04:25] <Ed_Belgor> sd
[04:25] <queuetue> Is there some other mechanism for handling library paths in dapper, or should I just create an ld.so.conf?
[04:25] <bulmer> raven: okay let start with what shows up if you do a   ifconfig -a   ?
[04:26] <crimsun> queuetue: the latter.
[04:26] <queuetue> crimsun: Thanks.
[04:26] <raven> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:0A:E4:B7:DC:0D
[04:26] <raven>           inet addr:80.221.157.208  Bcast:80.221.159.255  Mask:255.255.240.0
[04:26] <raven>           inet6 addr: fe80::20a:e4ff:feb7:dc0d/64 Scope:Link
[04:26] <raven>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[04:26] <raven>           RX packets:346 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[04:26] <raven>           TX packets:392 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[04:26] <bulmer> raven dont flood here, just mention the names
[04:26] <raven>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[04:27] <raven>           RX bytes:109391 (106.8 KiB)  TX bytes:31313 (30.5 KiB)
[04:27] <raven>           Interrupt:50 Base address:0x4800
[04:27] <raven> lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
[04:27] <raven>           inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
[04:27] <raven>           inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
[04:27] <queuetue> raven: Please stop. :)
[04:27] <raven>           UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
[04:27] <raven>           RX packets:2 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[04:27] <raven>           TX packets:2 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[04:27] <raven>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
[04:27] <raven>           RX bytes:100 (100.0 b)  TX bytes:100 (100.0 b)
[04:27] <raven> sit0      Link encap:IPv6-in-IPv4
[04:27] <raven>           NOARP  MTU:1480  Metric:1
[04:27] <Iulian> !paste
[04:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:27] <raven>           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[04:28] <raven>           TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[04:28] <raven>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
[04:28] <raven>           RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
[04:28] <raven> oops
[04:28] <raven> Sorry about that
[04:28] <raven> It was an accident, I didn't know it will do that... Wait a second
[04:28] <ShankarGanesh> pls join here if you wish
[04:28] <ShankarGanesh> http://groups.google.com/group/ubuntucommunity
[04:28] <Seveas> !paste | raven
[04:28] <ubotu> raven: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:28] <bulmer> raven: okay it looks like you have eth0, lo0 and sit0, your wifi card maybe eth0 if thats the only nic card you have
[04:29] <raven> Thanks, I will take a look at the pastebin.
[04:29] <bulmer> raven: okay it looks like you have eth0, lo0 and sit0, your wifi card maybe eth0 if thats the only nic card you have
[04:29] <raven> That should be the only one
[04:30] <bulmer> raven: do this man iwconfig  and play around with its command line to see how much you can learn from it
[04:30] <raven> Ok, I will. Thanks.
[04:31] <agliv5> How do I mount my hd from a liveCD?
[04:32] <bulmer> you can try mount /dev/hda1 /mnt   assuming /mnt directory exist
[04:32] <phar0z> agliv5, probarly something like mount -t ext3 /dev/hda5 /media/harddisk  (make the mointpoint with mkdir command)
[04:33] <bulmer> agliv5: oh yeah, ubuntu uses /media as mount point
[04:33] <virtu> hi for all.. anyone knows a software on ubuntu that scan for wifi signal?
[04:34] <bulmer> virtu  you tried  iwlist ?
[04:34] <virtu> bulmer, not yer, let me install it
[04:34] <phar0z> why not just iwlist interface scan? (example: iwlist ath0 scan)
[04:34] <bulmer> virtu if you have a working wifi nic, its should already be installed
[04:34] <virtu> bulmer, ok.. yes, its already installed
[04:35] <bulmer> virtu: see phar0z comments
[04:35] <virtu> hmm wich device could be my wifi network card?
[04:36] <bulmer> try em all
[04:36] <phar0z> lol iwlist is in the ubuntu base system :)
[04:36] <phar0z> in your case I guess eth0
[04:36] <bulmer> if it gives you error, try the next nic card
[04:36] <Yancho> not sure if im about to ask a funny question -but is there a good anti virus for linux? :S
[04:36] <virtu> phar0z, right now I am over a wired conncetion
[04:36] <jsixa> how can I install .rpm packages in Ubuntu
[04:37] <phar0z> Yancho, sudo apt-get install clamav
[04:37] <name> use alien to convert it to a dev
[04:37] <minimec> Hi folks. Unfortunally I have no fonts at all in the menu of xmms. I installed the 'transcoded-packages', verified xorg.conf and restarted Xorg. No success. Another gkt1 app I have is Aria. There I have the fonts. Any suggestions?
[04:37] <bulmer> virtu: you cant scan wifi with a wire connection.. lolz
[04:37] <virtu> bulmer, of course
[04:37] <jsixa> how can I install .rpm packages in Ubuntu
[04:37] <virtu> but I want to try to detect a wifi signal
[04:37] <phar0z> jsixa, convert it to deb with alien
[04:37] <name> jsixa: I ALREADY ANSWERED ^^
[04:37] <dremon> How can I safely transfer the complete root filesystem (/) to another partition on a different hard drive? It will be used then for booting. Can I use simple "dd if= of=" or is it unsafe? The partitions are of different sizes.
[04:38] <Yancho> phar0z telling me wrong password - is my password the same as the one i used during install ?
[04:38] <jsixa> ok phar0z thx, where do I ge this alien?
[04:38] <bulmer> virtu: without a wifi nic card, impossible
[04:38] <phar0z> virtu, sudo iwconfig ?
[04:38] <LjL> jsixa: a better question is "why should you" ;) seriously, RPMs are not intended for Ubuntu (just like .deb's made for Debian are not intended for Ubuntu), and installing them may harm your system
[04:38] <name> jsixa: apt!
[04:38] <virtu> I have a wifi card here and I dont know how to detect a wifi signal from
[04:38] <minimec> jsixa: You can try to use 'sudo alien xy.rpm'. That should give you a deb file of the software
[04:38] <jsixa> thx guys .. ur great
[04:38] <phar0z> yes Yancho same password
[04:38] <name> jsixa: alien - install non-native packages with dpkg
[04:38] <bulmer> virtu: is it in your hand and not plugged-in? hehehe
[04:38] <Yancho> phar0z im from ssh and its telling me wrong :\
[04:38] <LjL> dremon: different sizes... hm. don't think it'll work
[04:38] <jsixa> huh? really?
[04:38] <virtu> bulmer, wlan0 here or wmaster
[04:39] <jsixa> but loads of cool apps are in .deb or rpm
[04:39] <virtu> I am on a laptop.. and the module are on
[04:39] <LjL> dremon: you can always make a partition of the *same* size and then grow it later - ext3 allows for growing (parted can do that)
[04:39] <mcx> Jak zainstalowac Beryl????????????????????????????/
[04:39] <bulmer> virtu: we gave you the commands to work with, please scroll up
[04:39] <mcx> Jak zainstalowac Beryl????????????????????????????
[04:39] <LjL> dremon: but i guess you could really just use a cp command
[04:39] <LjL> !english  | mcx
[04:39] <ubotu> mcx: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[04:39] <virtu> bulmer, I saw it.. but wich interface?
[04:39] <virtu> waln0? ath0?
[04:39] <namelesss> virtu wlan0
[04:39] <mcx> how instal beryl?
[04:39] <virtu> name, tks
[04:39] <minimec> jsixa: deb and rpm is a package system file contaning a binary version of the software.
[04:39] <virtu> namelesss, tks
[04:39] <LjL> mcx: see the channel topic in #ubuntu-xgl
[04:39] <bulmer> virtu: i already told you, try each one, if it gives you error, try the next
[04:39] <Pici> !beryl | mcx
[04:40] <ubotu> mcx: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[04:40] <virtu> bulmer, sure
[04:40] <name> virtu: what?
[04:40] <namelesss> virtu, to see wireless : iwconfig
[04:40] <virtu> sorry name... it was to namelesss
[04:40] <jsixa> minimec: I get it
[04:40] <namelesss> name,  :)
[04:40] <rysiek|pl> hi guys
[04:40] <jsixa> can u point to some url I can get cool apps for Ubuntu?
[04:40] <dremon> LjL: well, the cp does have some gotchas. Assuming I mounted /dev/hdd1 under /mnt, I cannot copy the / to the /mnt
[04:40] <name> apt-cache search
[04:40] <bulmer> virtu dont be afraid to try each interface, you'll learn from it
[04:41] <rysiek|pl> I was hacking a wee bit with my wlan (setting a freeradius server, etc) and came across this little gem:
[04:41] <rysiek|pl> http://www.opendns.com/
[04:41] <virtu> bulmer, ok.. tks... iwlist wlan0 scan gaves me no scan results
[04:41] <namelesss> virtu did you active this connection ?
[04:41] <bulmer> virtu: then you maybe in an enclosed can where wifi signals can not get to you..
[04:41] <minimec> jsixa: Well... There are all in you repository. No reason to give you an url or something. MAybe you have to activate the universe and multiverse repo in synaptic.
[04:42] <LjL> dremon: well, i think that will be mostly due to the presence of other mounted filesystems - such as /proc, /sys and of course /mnt/hdd1 itself (recursive copy... yikes!)
[04:42] <rysiek|pl> now, I used to have problems with my wlan under(K|X)Ubuntu, as some AP's seem to send incorrect DNS-servers to non-windows(!) boxen
[04:42] <namelesss> virtu first check if you have a signal : sudo wifi-radar
[04:42] <virtu> bulmer, yeah.. i think so too
[04:42] <LjL> dremon: but you can use the "-x" option of "cp" to fix that, i think, see the man page
[04:42] <namelesss> virtu, if you don't have wifi-radar install it : sudo aptitude install wifi-radar
[04:42] <virtu> namelesss, ok :)
[04:42] <jsixa> minimec: thx..
[04:43] <godhell> yo
[04:43] <freezey> with setting up a site running apache.... i give the server name http://blah.com and i want it to go right to that when i open a browser instead of going to the document_root how do i do that?
[04:43] <minimec> jsixa: no problem
[04:43] <godhell> Anyone knows if it's possible to dual boot ubuntu and windows with two different harddrives?
[04:43] <godhell> Like change around in the boot.ini file
[04:43] <namelesss> godhell, yes it is possible
[04:43] <rysiek|pl> I read a bit of manuals (dhclient.conf, etc) and got this idea: maybe (k|x)ubuntu should have in it's default dhclient.conf file two more lines: prepend domain-name-servers 208.67.220.220; and prepend domain-name-servers 208.67.222.222;
[04:43] <namelesss> godhell, with two harddisk ?
[04:43] <LjL> dremon: basically i think "cd -a -x / /mnt/hdd1/" would do the trick
[04:43] <godhell> namelesss; yea
[04:43] <riotkittie> errr the windows boot ini?
[04:44] <rysiek|pl> this solved all my DNS/WLAN related problems
[04:44] <namelesss> godhell, yes the configuration file is here : /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:44] <virtu> namelesss, wmaster0  Interface doesn't support scanning : Operation not supported
[04:44] <godhell> namelesss; ubuntu on 1 harddrive and windows on the other
[04:44] <LjL> dremon: it also has the advantage, over things like "dd", that you get free defragmentation
[04:44] <namelesss> godhell, and just change the line where boot windows
[04:44] <namelesss> virtu, not important, just wlan0 is interesting
[04:44] <godhell> The windows drive is atm the booting
[04:44] <namelesss> virtu, look at the window opened
[04:44] <rysiek|pl> and I *know* my friend had the same problem, as soon as I get in touch with him I'll check if it works for him (I can't see any reason it won't)
[04:45] <minimec> is there a xmms user here in the channel?
[04:45] <godhell> can i change in the boot.ini file? Or do i have to make the linux as main harddrive?
[04:45] <rysiek|pl> so the question is: *where* should I report this idea?
[04:45] <virtu> namelesss, nothing is showed on the window opened.. so no signal, right?
[04:45] <riotkittie> minimec: i use it occasionally...
[04:45] <dremon> LjL: I'll look at this option, tnx. And how about the user rights?
[04:45] <namelesss> no windows opened ?
[04:45] <namelesss> virtu, dis you use as sudo ?
[04:45] <namelesss> sudo wifi-radar
[04:45] <virtu> namelesss, a window opened
[04:45] <dremon> A/help me
[04:45] <ubuntu> ok i need some quick advice about the install f ubuntu
[04:45] <minimec> riotkittie: so you have the fonts in your menu. How did you get them?
[04:46] <LjL> dremon, cp should keep them intact as far as i know - unless you copy to a filesystem that doesn't support permissions, but you aren't doing that for sure
[04:46] <ubuntu> i am using the intel 965 chipset board
[04:46] <namelesss> godhell, in your /boot/grub/menu.lst file just change this line : root (hd0,1)
[04:46] <ubuntu> it has the jmicron controller and ich8
[04:46] <namelesss> godhell, bye the good hardware
[04:46] <namelesss> virtu, so, do you see a signal ?
[04:46] <riotkittie> minimec: custom fonts in the xmms menu?
[04:46] <aleksanteri> How to terminate a process from console?
[04:46] <ubuntu> while going through the config, my ide drive (the boot disk)
[04:46] <virtu> namelesss, no.. but thanks for the wifi-radar tip :)
[04:46] <ubuntu> is set to hdf
[04:46] <godhell> nameless; so the linux drive will be the booter, gotta change it in the bios then
[04:46] <namelesss> virtu, no signal ?
[04:46] <virtu> namelesss, no sginal
[04:47] <riotkittie> brb
[04:47] <ubuntu> for grub, should i leave it at hd0, or change it to hd6? (f = 6)
[04:47] <namelesss> virtu, and there is a signal around ?
[04:47] <minimec> riotkittie: I just did a clean install. Sudo apt-get install xmms ...
[04:47] <dromer> can someone walk me through reconfiguring grub? I reinstalled windows and am booting into the live-cd now
[04:47] <LjL> Ubotu, tell dromer about grub | dromer, see the private message from Ubotu
[04:47] <erUSUL> !grub > dromer
[04:47] <bulmer> virtu: then you maybe in an enclosed can where wifi signals can not get to you.. virtu is in a can...lol
[04:47] <Yancho> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[04:47] <Yancho> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[04:47] <Hoosteen> anybody around to help a noobie out?
[04:47] <namelesss> godhell, yes linux drive is booter
[04:47] <ubuntu> anyone have an idea?
[04:47] <minimec> riotkittie: That gives me an idea ...
[04:47] <cyzie> hello, how do i configure my microphone ?
[04:48] <Yancho> anyone knows why this is happening when using sudo ?
[04:48] <aleksanteri> !term
[04:48] <LjL> dromer: i think "grub-install --root-directory=/place/where/you/just/mounted/your/ubuntu/partition /dev/your-boot-hd" should do the trick
[04:48] <virtu> namelesss, not sure... but at work I can test it... there have 2 signals
[04:48] <erUSUL> !anyone > Hoosteen
[04:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about term - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:48] <namelesss> ubuntu depending of your configuration
[04:48] <LjL> !terminal
[04:48] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[04:48] <virtu> bulmer, so I think so
[04:48] <aleksanteri> >_<
[04:48] <ubuntu> ok what do i need to figure out baou my config
[04:48] <aleksanteri> !kill
[04:48] <namelesss> virtu check if you are in a wifi area
[04:48] <ubuntu> s/baou/about
[04:48] <virtu> bulmer, namelesss thanks for the help.. right now I know hot to check if there is a signal :)
[04:48] <namelesss> ok
[04:49] <namelesss> virtu, you use ndiswrapper ?
[04:49] <LjL> Yancho, you have another APT program open
[04:49] <Hoosteen> ok erUSUL :-)  I'm trying to get my wireless card working..it's a BCMW4318...i've tried a couple of tutorials with no luck....
[04:49] <LjL> Yancho: close it, only one can be running at a time
[04:49] <Yancho> LjL is the application list another version of apt ?
[04:49] <virtu> namelesss, hmm i am not sure.. but i think no
[04:49] <erUSUL> Hoosteen: wireless chipset??
[04:49] <namelesss> ok
[04:49] <LjL> Yancho: what is the application list, "Add/Remove programs"? then yes
[04:49] <Hoosteen> BroadCom
[04:49] <aleksanteri> how to terminate a program from console? please? :|
[04:50] <zdogde> hi
[04:50] <LjL> aleksanteri: kill process-ID
[04:50] <bulmer> Hoosteen: you maybe the 1001th that ask about same wifi chip..very troublesome to get going
[04:50] <dremon> aleksanteri: killall appname
[04:50] <aleksanteri> how to get the process-ID?
[04:50] <Pici> aleksanteri: ps ax | grep programname
[04:50] <Hoosteen> hehe..i know...lol...i've tried using ndiswrapper with no dice..i was talking with sivik last night and he mentioned fwcutter...but i'm lost after that....
[04:50] <DaveR> hi, i am trying to install xubuntu on an old pc and keep getting the error: couldn't download package ifupdown.  i can't connect it to the network as it doesn't have an ethernet port.  what can i do?
[04:50] <dremon> aleksanteri: ps aux |grep appname
[04:50] <zdogde> how do i change the usplash theme from kubuntu to ubuntu?
[04:50] <aleksanteri> thx...
[04:50] <LjL> aleksanteri: or just use "killall processname", if you know the process name precisely
[04:51] <LjL> Ubotu, tell zdogde about usplash | zdogde, see the private message from Ubotu
[04:51] <aleksanteri> now these panels are screwed up :|
[04:51] <bulmer> DaveR: umm install an ethernet card to it and attached to the network will help?
[04:51] <g333k_work> hi, how can I change the alias of the ethernet cards?
[04:51] <namelesss> zdogde, you want to change your usplash ?
[04:52] <godhell> ok i get an error when i booted into ubuntu; /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off (initramfs) help
[04:52] <aleksanteri> the panel simply doesn't respond?
[04:52] <ubuntu> godhell
[04:52] <zdogde> namelesss, the link i got helped
[04:52] <ubuntu> i had that problem too
[04:52] <erUSUL> Hoosteen: you have to configure it with ndiswrapper and you need to install the firmware first afaics
[04:52] <zdogde> its changed now :)
[04:52] <ubuntu> u have 2 was around it
[04:52] <DaveR> bulmer: do i have to connect it to a network to install it?  the computer doesn't have any means at the moment to connect to a network, do i need to buy a network card to install it?
[04:52] <namelesss> zdogde, to change usplash just 3 command
[04:52] <ubuntu> 1. turn off usb controller in bios
[04:52] <minimec> riotkittie: I just checked the .xmms config and menurc files. I don't now, what's wrong, but I have no fonts in the menu of xmms. So I cannot configure it ... :(
[04:52] <ubuntu> 2. add irqpoll to boot line
[04:53] <bulmer> DaveR it depends on your installation mode, network or via the cdrom/dvd?
[04:53] <frojnd> Find the appropriate module for your kernel. For example, if you have linux-image-amd64-k8 installed, then you should install linux-restricted-modules-amd64-k8. Selecting one will also install nvidia-kernel-common. (Note: you have to select the restricted modules first because the nvidia-glx package automatically installs the i386 one - and if you have a generic kernel image, the X will not work.)
[04:53] <aleksanteri> panel doesn't respond, what shall i do? :|
[04:53] <frojnd> I have generic kernel..
[04:53] <frojnd> so I can't install nvidia driveres?
[04:53] <erUSUL> Hoosteen: also check here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Edgy
[04:53] <namelesss> frojnd, for which processor ?
[04:53] <dremon> aleksanteri: what panel?
[04:54] <namelesss> frojnd, yes you can install nvidia drivers
[04:54] <godhell> ubuntu; can't find it
[04:54] <riotkittie> minimec: that is really, REALLY, odd. i dont know what to tell you :/  maybe try beep-media-player instead, which is like xmms  ?
[04:54] <namelesss> frojnd, i've got generic kernel and nvidia's drivers
[04:54] <aleksanteri> dremon: both panels (taskbar and sidebar)
[04:54] <namelesss> minimec, xmms sux, beep-media-player rox
[04:54] <dremon> aleksanteri: press Ctrl-Alt-Backspace and login again
[04:54] <riotkittie> aleksanteri: killall  gnome-panel
[04:54] <ubuntu> when you load ubuntu live cd, you have to hit f6 and then add irqpoll to the end of the line
[04:54] <riotkittie> from a term
[04:55] <namelesss> frojnd, what is your graphic card ?
[04:55] <ubuntu> or turn off usb support in the bios
[04:55] <DaveR> bulmer: i have burnt onto an iso image disk with the alternate download available on the site and then in the install window just clicked 'installed in text mode'.  do i need to do something during the install to not look for networks because i can't see any options to byepass it.  i have had a go at continuing from the error message but i just get more later on which again fail the install.
[04:55] <riotkittie> my problem with beep is that i cant use xmms eq files in it :/
[04:55] <aleksanteri> tried them both...
[04:55] <iratik> sudo: unable to lookup www via gethostbyname() - a link to a fix it page ? i'm getting it from a command on the crontab too and my messages just from cron because of this messages bring it to about 1gb every few days - link to fix?
[04:55] <minimec> namelesss: Well... I thought so too, but bmp is buggy. Drag and Drop is not working here; I don't have an xosd-plugin ...
[04:55] <godhell> ubuntu; i have installed ubuntu but can't get onto it
[04:55] <freezey> how do i check the name of the box? the hostname that is
[04:56] <namelesss> minimec, in my home drag and drop works perfectly
[04:56] <Pici> freezey: type hostname
[04:56] <ubuntu> ahh... your alittle farther in the install then i am, course as soon as i hit finish on mine i will more then likely end up where you are
[04:56] <bulmer> DaveR there are no requirements to have access to the Internet to complete an install
[04:56] <ubuntu> you might have to add it to the boot options in your menu.lst or whereever the grub commands go
[04:56] <minimec> namelesss: Hmmmm... Are you working on a clean edgy install or on a dapper-edgy update?
[04:57] <bulmer> DaveR: everything you need is on that media
[04:57] <namelesss> dapper-edgy update
[04:57] <namelesss> minimec,
[04:57] <minimec> namelesss: hmmm... so do I...
[04:57] <Nana`> is there any voice changer freeware for ubuntu dapper ?
[04:57] <aeromix> hi.. I'm trying to send mail via "echo mail" | mail augustin.machacek@gmail.com but I never get any mail :(
[04:57] <namelesss> minimec, chat's change ?
[04:57] <DaveR> bulmer: so why would i get all these messages about downloading stuff?
[04:57] <namelesss> what's change*
[04:57] <aleksanteri> any more ideas?
[04:58] <bulmer> DaveR maybe on the options you selected?
[04:58] <minimec> namelesss: What do you mean?
[04:58] <gh0st> hello, how can i build a package from a source or install from source code so that it's also in synaptic?
[04:58] <yellowdart> Hoosteen, i just got done setting up a broadcom 4306 (dell truemobile 1300).. i'm using edgy, and this is the tut i used: http://www.seungpyo.com/stacksandpiles/2006/07/02/broadcom-wireless-in-ubuntu-dapper-606/
[04:58] <namelesss> does exist difference between clean edgy and dapper-edgy update ?
[04:59] <Virtualism> Wow... irc is cool...
[04:59] <Mys_Teri> Good Morning.  I am kind of new to Linux haven't used it in 10 years or more.  I have a PIII with 256 RAM and it has an old copy of a different Linux operating system.  Do I need to figure out how to uninstall that or can I just put the CD in once I have downloaded and burnt it and go from there?
[04:59] <Hoosteen> so..nobody can help i take it?
[04:59] <LjL> Nana`: probably not "voice change"-specific, but there are a few real-time sound effect programs that you could probably use
[04:59] <LjL> !tapiir | for instance
[04:59] <ubotu> tapiir: A tool for real time audio delay and feedback effects. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.1-8 (edgy), package size 164 kB, installed size 948 kB
[04:59] <yellowdart> Hoosteen, the only difference is that i did apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils-1.8 instead of just ndiswrapper-utils
[04:59] <gh0st> hello, how can i build a deb package from a source or, in other words: install from source code so that it's also in synaptic?
[04:59] <dromer> LjL: for my ubuntu-partition I need something like /dev/hda3 or w/e? The guide I got from erUSUL didn't work (first one) still booted into windows
[04:59] <LjL> look at creox and ecamegapedal too
[04:59] <namelesss> minimec, (sorry for my poor english i'm french)
[04:59] <Pici> Mys_Teri: the install CD can reformat the drive if needed
[05:00] <Nana`> !tapiir |
[05:00] <cypher1> Mys_Teri, you can burn and install.. assuming you do not have any data to be backed up in the earlier distribution
[05:00] <ubotu> tapiir: A tool for real time audio delay and feedback effects. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.1-8 (edgy), package size 164 kB, installed size 948 kB
[05:00] <Nana`> ups
[05:00] <Nana`> thanks LjL
[05:00] <DaveR> bulmer: i will give it another go from the start but i have already tried running it through a couple of times and there doesn't seem to be any other options to get round the network.  before i get that message it does ask me network questions but i just fill them in.  questions such as: what do you want this computer to be called?
[05:00] <LjL> dromer: /dev/hda it should be, normally you install GRUB into the MBR
[05:00] <Lionheart> Where is the "Deleted Files" located on Ubuntu?
[05:00] <minimec> namelesss: No problem... I live in the french part of Switzerland...
[05:00] <dromer> LjL: ok ..
[05:00] <minimec> namelesss: ;)
[05:00] <namelesss> :)
[05:01] <Virtualism> Hi people, i have a small question. how is edgy?
[05:01] <LjL> minimec: but you need to specify a root directory, and that must be mounted
[05:01] <LjL> Lionheart: ~/.trash
[05:01] <bulmer> DaveR you dont have any ethernet cards you can  use?  its just for the install...it maybe looking for some nic card when installing the network related modules
[05:01] <LjL> Virtualism: a small question?
[05:01] <cypher1> Virtualism, nice
[05:01] <Mys_Teri> Pici and Cypher1: Thanks, nope no data needing to be backed up.  I just wasn't thrilled with the other and the computer teacher at my kids high school mentioned Ubuntu.  I'm making a Mom Only computer.
[05:01] <godhell> ubuntu; where shall i write in irqpoll?
[05:01] <Virtualism> Yes, i mean like, does it work?
[05:01] <dromer> LjL: hmm, I really don't know how to use the line you gave
[05:01] <LjL> Virtualism: no, they released it for fun, but it's a paperweight
[05:02] <riotkittie> yay for Mom Only computers :D
[05:02] <erUSUL> Lionheart: the ones rm'ed are gone for good if you deleted from nautilus or other gnome apps go to ~/.Trash/
[05:02] <Virtualism> Ah.
[05:02] <Virtualism> thanks.
[05:02] <minimec> LjL: Are you talking to me?
[05:02] <Pici> Mys_Teri: no problem :)
[05:02] <LjL> minimec: no
[05:02] <dromer> LjL: like, what do I need for  /dev/your-boot-hd ?
[05:02] <cypher1> Mys_Teri, nice.. then without any worries you can go ahead popping in the CD and start installing !
[05:02] <Lionheart> Thank you!
[05:02] <Virtualism> So... i can install it...
[05:02] <LjL> dromer: /dev/hda, from what i can tell of what you said
[05:02] <Hoosteen> yellowdart: hmm..i tried that too..no dice...i dunno what the problem is...
[05:02] <dromer> LjL: so for both /dev/hda ?
[05:02] <freezey> how do you change your hostname?
[05:03] <Virtualism> Does ndsiwrapper work on edgy? :P
[05:03] <LjL> dromer: no - the command is "grub-install --root-directory=<rootmountpoint> <device>"
[05:03] <LjL> dromer: <device> would be /dev/hda
[05:03] <soundray> freezey: 'sudo gedit /etc/hostname ; sudo gedit /etc/hosts'
[05:03] <DaveR> bulmer: i will have a look around but the only one i can think of is on the computer i am on atm and i don't want to mess with this computer as it is my main one for work.
[05:03] <marcoctba78> hi
[05:03] <dromer> LjL: and mountpoint? my ubuntu mountpoint?
[05:03] <_james> i can't run my wine it says that error on openglx ... help pls.
[05:03] <yellowdart> Hoosteen, did you try to get ndiswrapper-utils-1.8?
[05:03] <Mys_Teri> riotkittie: That's for sure.  4 teenagers and one computer that is online don't mix.  Didn't have money for another computer but I got this one for 40 bucks including 80 feet of Cat 5 cable so I can reach our router.
[05:03] <LjL> dromer: <rootmountpoint> depends on where it's mounted. normally something like /media/hda3, if hda3 is your partition (note *media*, not *dev*) -- but you must have it mounted there
[05:03] <marcoctba78> anybody know about ltsp, thin client?
[05:03] <bulmer> DaveR good luck...am out now
[05:03] <namelesss> freezey, by editing /etc/hostanme file
[05:03] <namelesss> and /etc/hosts
[05:04] <LjL> dromer: i don't quite remember if the live CD mounts all partitions automatically or not. if it does, it's quite likely that you already have it mounted under /media/hda3
[05:04] <yellowdart> Hoosteen, btw, what distro are you running?
[05:04] <LjL> dromer: just do an "ls /media/hda3" and see if there's your filesystem on there
[05:04] <DaveR> bulmer:ok, thanks for your help
[05:04] <Hoosteen> yellowdart: Dapper
[05:04] <riotkittie> freezey: that was so cool.
[05:04] <riotkittie> errrrrrrr
[05:04] <riotkittie> stupid lack of backspace. ignore tat.
[05:04] <dromer> LjL: no such file
[05:04] <riotkittie> thhat*
[05:04] <rowanjl> hey, I can't boot the installer for 6.10, just when the progress bar is about to complete it freezes and a strange green/purple bar gets drawn across the screen...
[05:05] <freezey> do i gotta reboot after i do that>
[05:05] <LjL> dromer: alright, can you positively say that your boot drive is /dev/hda, and that your Ubuntu partition is /dev/hda3?
[05:05] <namelesss> freezey, no
[05:05] <riotkittie> gee. its starting to look like i should fire gtypist up again
[05:05] <LjL> dromer: we don't really want to get those wrong
[05:05] <rowanjl> the 64 bit version doesn't work either.
[05:05] <freezey> nameless: its not changing in the terminal or nething
[05:05] <namelesss> rowanjl, try alternate cd
[05:05] <rowanjl> bah...
[05:05] <namelesss> rowanjl, did you check the iso integrality by md5 checksum ?
[05:06] <godhell> ok i installed ubuntu and as soon as the loading screen comes up it halts and i get into terminal,
[05:06] <godhell> anyone had this problem?
[05:06] <namelesss> freezey, try to reset your connection  ?
[05:06] <rowanjl> how would I?
[05:06] <dremon> rowanjl: try to change the screen resolution in the boot menu, say to 1024x768
[05:06] <minimec> namelesss: Heureka. I had to create a .gtkrc in my home directory. Now it's ok.
[05:06] <namelesss> freezey, i'm not a specialist about network :)
[05:06] <dromer> LjL: from gnome partition editor I can see my ubuntu install is /dev/hda2
[05:06] <namelesss> minimec, :o
[05:06] <LjL> dromer: then what about "ls /media/hda2"?
[05:06] <namelesss> minimec, i didn't know this tip
[05:06] <minimec> namelesss: neither did I ...
[05:06] <dromer> LjL: /media/ is empty
[05:07] <namelesss> ^^
[05:07] <dromer> so I guess not mounted
[05:07] <namelesss> aeromix, what is you mail client ?
[05:07] <LjL> dromer: ok, then we'll mount it manually, no big issue
[05:07] <LjL> dromer: type "sudo mkdir /media/hda2 ; sudo mount /dev/hda2 /media/hda2"
[05:07] <aeromix> name, just mail in bash
[05:07] <LjL> dromer: then do "ls /media/hda2", you should see your filesystem now
[05:07] <aeromix> namelesss, just mail in bash
[05:07] <namelesss> aeromix, what is you mail server ?
[05:08] <aleksanteri> please? why these panels don't respond?
[05:08] <aeromix> namelesss, sendmail
[05:08] <Yodude> hey
[05:08] <Yodude> i was using dapper drake
[05:08] <aeromix> namelesss, I installed mailutils package but sth must be wrong.. it used to be ok some times ago
[05:08] <namelesss> arf
[05:08] <Yodude> (liveCD)
[05:08] <soundray> aleksanteri: what panels?
[05:08] <rowanjl> namelesss: the md5 sums match
[05:08] <dromer> LjL: nothing is happening ..
[05:08] <aleksanteri> gnome-panel
[05:09] <Yodude> and i was able to see my partitions when i go to Places-Computer
[05:09] <godhell> is there a way to get my other ubuntu settings on this computer im on now to my other stationary without swaping disksQ?
[05:09] <Virtualism> hah. i just made a stupid mistake. Edgy is 6.10. i meant Feisty. sorry.
[05:09] <pbureau> Yodude,  try to use one continuous line of text to explain your problem instead of 10 characters and using enter.. thanks
[05:09] <namelesss> rowanjl, ok maybe you haven't have enough Ram memory ?
[05:09] <yellowdart> Hoosteen, it looks like the forums are down, but i remember this link too: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear
[05:09] <rowanjl> 1gb not enough?
[05:09] <soundray> Virtualism: go to #ubuntu+1 for feisty support
[05:09] <Virtualism> thanks.
[05:09] <yellowdart> Hoosteen, it uses the actual firmware rather than ndiswrapper
[05:09] <name> aeromix: what?
[05:09] <Yodude> i downloaded Edgy and i don't see my partitions anymore!
[05:10] <namelesss> Yodude, you want to see wich partitions ?
[05:10] <LjL> dromer: nothing *should* be happening, but when you do "ls /media/hda2", something should happen
[05:10] <Yodude> C and D of windows
[05:10] <namelesss> Yodude, so you have to mount them
[05:10] <dromer> LjL: I don't get another /$
[05:10] <Hoosteen> yellowdart: ok..i'll check that link out as soon as the forums come back u
[05:10] <namelesss> Yodude, what is the partition format ?
[05:10] <Hoosteen> *up
[05:10] <rowanjl> namelesss: I'll try setting the resolution like dremon suggested. Back soon if it fails :P
[05:11] <Yodude> NTFS and FAT32
[05:11] <pbureau> Hoosteen, what kind of netcard is it ? ( type in terminal -> lspci | grep ethernet
[05:11] <Yancho> i have an hp PSC 1215 USB printer / scanner connected to a Windows PC - is it possible that I print from Ubuntu ? if yes can you please tell me what do i need?
[05:11] <Yodude> i used to be able to read them when using 6.06
[05:11] <n2diy_> Hoosteen: I was just over on the forum archives, they are working ok now.
[05:11] <Pio> can upstart function on the old dapper kernel?
[05:11] <namelesss> Yodude, do you use a live cd ?
[05:11] <Virtualism> #ubuntu+1
[05:11] <soundray> Pio: no
[05:11] <Virtualism> hhhmmm...
[05:11] <LjL> dromer: uh? you don't get a prompt, you mean? now that's quite weird
[05:11] <Pio> soundray, thats what i thought, thanks
[05:11] <pbureau> Yancho,  install CUPS and then open a browser and type http://localhost:631 and click on administration to install
[05:11] <LjL> dromer: do "ls /media/hda2" from another shell
[05:11] <Yodude> yes i do actually
[05:11] <namelesss> Yodude, so the problem is each time you will reboot your pc, you will have to apply same method
[05:11] <ryanakca> what's the command to display the space used and free on an HD?
[05:12] <soundray> Pio: well, you can try to backport it, but depending on what you want to do, it's unlikely to be worth the effort.
[05:12] <n2diy_> Virtualism: "/join #ubuntu+1"
[05:12] <elwario91> hello
[05:12] <Yodude> ok that's what i did with Dapper to mount them anyway evrytime
[05:12] <Hoosteen> this is what i get...:The forums are currently offline. We will return shortly. We are performing an upgrade on our database server.
[05:12] <Yodude> but here i don
[05:12] <pbureau> Hoosteen, what kind of netcard is it ? ( type in terminal -> lspci | grep ethernet
[05:12] <dromer> LjL: no propt on a new shell either
[05:12] <Malachi> This is going to found very stupid, but what program can I use to open .class files found in .jar packages?
[05:12] <Yodude> 't even see them to mount them!
[05:12] <elwario91> I've installed nvclock and nvclock gtk but I don't know how to start it in gtk? :(
[05:12] <erUSUL> Yancho: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPPrinter
[05:12] <namelesss> Yodude, why don't you install, it will be easier for next time
[05:12] <Pio> soundray, yeah im not that interested, I just have a machine I'm dist-upgrading to edgy, but I know already that this machine can't boot with the edgy kernel due to a acpi bug.  so I'm going to hold back upstart and boot into edgy, then build my own patched edgy kernel
[05:12] <LjL> dromer: holy... reboot
[05:12] <Pio> i just was wondering if i needed to hold back upstart
[05:13] <dromer> LjL: damnit?
[05:13] <Yodude> i am going to install actually
[05:13] <Yodude> but not now in a few weeks
[05:13] <namelesss> ok
[05:13] <LjL> dromer: probably nothing too bad, but i just haven't the slightest idea why something like that would happen
[05:13] <Yodude>  but please tell me the method
[05:13] <Hoosteen> pbureau: It's a Broadcom 4318 AirForce One
[05:13] <namelesss> to mount C and D drive ?
[05:13] <Yodude> yes
[05:13] <namelesss> what is the C and D format ?
[05:13] <Yodude> and to see them in Edgy
[05:13] <mindstate> need some help trying to setup USB digital camera
[05:13] <namelesss> ntfs, fat32 ?
[05:13] <Yodude> yes
[05:13] <dromer> LjL: I closed the console, I can open a new one first to see of a prompt is present
[05:13] <soundray> Pio: oh, good luck with that... can you not boot the edgy kernel with an option like acpi=off?
[05:13] <LjL> dromer: try
[05:14] <aleksanteri> :( i want the panels to work correctly...
[05:14] <namelesss> Yodude, which one ? ^^
[05:14] <Yodude> both
[05:14] <yellowdart> i was wondering if anybody knew of any utility that works like network-manager but for VPNs
[05:14] <mindstate> !camera
[05:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about camera - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:14] <elwario91> I've found sorry
[05:14] <Pio> soundray, no, I've tried hundreds of different parameters.. the only way the edgy kernel will boot is pci=off.. which makes a less than ideal system :)
[05:14] <dromer> LjL: ok, X froze, did ctrl+alt+bckspc and I get a prompt
[05:15] <White_Lightning> !gimp
[05:15] <ubotu> gimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[05:15] <ubu> someone knows well ubuntu ppc?
[05:15] <namelesss> Yodude, sudo fdisk -l
[05:15] <LjL> dromer: try a "df" at that prompt. i guess it'll freeze still
[05:15] <dromer> LjL: ok reboot ..
[05:15] <namelesss> Yodude, paste bin the result of this command
[05:15] <Yodude> i know this
[05:15] <Yodude> pmount.allow?
[05:15] <White_Lightning> hey where does gimp have it's pattern folder?
[05:15] <Yodude> i know how to mount
[05:15] <pbureau> Hoosteen, yep the forums are down... but the answer HOWTO is there...
[05:15] <Yodude> but i don't see the disk icons in Computer to mount them!
[05:16] <namelesss> Yodude, ther's no icon
[05:16] <Yodude> really? but i used to see one in Dapper
[05:16] <mindstate> any takers :)
[05:16] <Gorlist> Hi, ok quick question - im running Xubuntu, though when I open OpenOffice im finding the taskbar at the top of the program application windows is screwed up - displays odd hashed colours (black, white and strips etc)
[05:16] <Pici> White_Lightning: I dont know, but the people in #gimp might
[05:16] <Llais> Yodude: have you tried mounting them from the command prompt?
[05:17] <White_Lightning> I assume that but they aren't answering
[05:17] <White_Lightning> I'll try there agian
[05:17] <sisirkoppaka> hi
[05:17] <White_Lightning> again*
[05:17] <Pici> White_Lightning: It might be in the options dialog
[05:17] <namelesss> Yodude, no you have to mount manually except if the file fstab is configured to assemble them automatically
[05:17] <sisirkoppaka> i heard that the boot process has been redesigned in edgy
[05:17] <Gorlist> not sure the cause, I had posted on the forums couple of days ago
[05:17] <sisirkoppaka> but I haven't seen any difference in the speed as of now.
[05:17] <sisirkoppaka> why is that
[05:17] <covOPprometheus> can anyone tell me, how I can define that the autoupdater doesn't want to update certain packages?
[05:17] <namelesss> sisirkoppaka, check your /etc/fstab file
[05:17] <namelesss> ;)
[05:18] <namelesss> you will see a difference
[05:18] <sisirkoppaka> when
[05:18] <zyth> Am I right in my conclusion that the KVM in Feisty is like parallels?  It would let me run other x86 oses with faster speed than, say qemu?
[05:18] <sisirkoppaka> what is /etc/fstab
[05:18] <namelesss> ho sorry i've misunderstood
[05:18] <namelesss> /etc/fstab is a file configuration to mount your drive
[05:18] <Pici> zyth: fiesty support in #ubuntu+1
[05:18] <deltaray2> I'm wanting to setup an Ubuntu server.   Does the server install CD allow you to do LVM?  Or do I need the alternate CD for that?
[05:18] <Tonio_> hi, I have a little question
[05:18] <Pici> zyth: I have no idea what KVM is ;0
[05:18] <sisirkoppaka> what should i do with it?
[05:19] <Tonio_> what is ubuntu feisty using as default font for the desktop ?
[05:19] <Yodude> nameless: usually after i paste the /dev/... in pmount.allow i go to places then Computer then double click each disk
[05:19] <namelesss> sisirkoppaka, nothing forget :)
[05:19] <Pici> Tonio_: #ubuntu+1 for Fiesty support
[05:19] <Yodude> if i don't see the disks in computer what should i do?
[05:19] <zyth> Pici, I don't need support, it was a question.
[05:19] <namelesss> Yodude, ho, i didn't know this tip
[05:19] <sisirkoppaka> how can I become a developer
[05:19] <sisirkoppaka> or an ubuntu member
[05:19] <LjL> Ubotu, tell sisirkoppaka about member | sisirkoppaka, see the private message from Ubotu
[05:19] <Tonio_> Pici: no support, just a question :)
[05:20] <n2diy_> ! member
[05:20] <ubotu> Want to become an Ubuntu member? Look at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember
[05:20] <Pici> zyth, Tonio_ : I know, I just thought that the people there would be able to help you better
[05:20] <Yodude> so what do i do?
[05:20] <ubuntu_help> New support question: I'm using Ubuntu 6.10 Server and the md5sum for smbfs_3.0.22-1ubuntu4_i386.deb is different than what is listed in md5sum.txt
[05:20] <ubuntu_help> So the disk check fails every time
[05:20] <namelesss> Yodude, i usually add a line in /etc/fstab file and create a directory in /mnt/C_drive and mount my C drive
[05:20] <RxDx> what do you guys think are better, KDE or Gnome?
[05:20] <dromer> LjL: ok, back in ubuntu live, where to go?
[05:20] <zyth> kk
[05:20] <Pici> !best | RxDx
[05:20] <ubotu> RxDx: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[05:20] <namelesss> ubuntu_help, re_download your iso
[05:21] <namelesss> ubuntu_help, and re-burn it
[05:21] <rowanjl> Well, that didn't work :/ after changing the resolution the boot screen looked fine and didn't freeze, but X refused to work...
[05:21] <RxDx> hehe =X
[05:21] <namelesss> ubuntu_help, and re-check
[05:21] <Yodude> ummmm
[05:21] <LjL> dromer: i'm afraid i don't really know - i can only tell you to do the same thing you did before again. but i suppose it will likely lock up again
[05:21] <rowanjl> It said it couldn't find any devices
[05:21] <mindstate> RxDx: i like XFCE :)
[05:21] <Yodude> well wait a bit i'm gonna see help online and come back
[05:21] <rowanjl> right after listing my exact model video card...
[05:21] <RxDx> mindstate, its cool, but too simple :P
[05:21] <rowanjl> man, I feel like screaming.
[05:21] <ubuntu_help> nameless: I did redownload, reburn. and i did an md5 against the file in the iso before burning, comes out the same. and i did an md5sum against the same file hosted at http://ubuntu.interlegis.gov.br/archive/pool/main/s/samba/ and the md5 is the same. the only mismatch is the md5sum.txt file on the cd
[05:22] <cypher1> rowanjl, whats the problem
[05:22] <mindstate> RxDx: thats why i like it heh
[05:22] <rowanjl> the installer won't load, because X can't seem to work out what hardware I've got
[05:22] <LjL> dromer: perhaps try also, before mounting, a "sudo fsck /dev/hda2", and see if it's actually an ext3 filesystem, and if it's clean
[05:22] <cypher1> ubuntu_help, i believe that there is media-check option when you boot thru the cd
[05:22] <Pici> ubuntu_help: file a bug report
[05:23] <rowanjl> My graphics card is an ATI Radeon X800 btw.
[05:23] <dromer> LjL: it worked now
[05:23] <ubuntu_help> yes, i used media check and that is where the problem was first identified. my best guess at this point is that md5sum.txt is wrong
[05:23] <dromer> I can do ls /media/hda2
[05:23] <knolleary> hi, i've just got edgy working nicely on a Lenove T60p, but i've got a couple questions about sound that I'm hoping someone can help with. All of the system sounds, such as the beep and plugging in power, are way too loud and ignore the volume control settings. Any ideas how I can turn them down?
[05:23] <namelesss> ubuntu_help, maybe the burns failed ?
[05:23] <LjL> dromer: oh, cool. probably a stupid glitch of the CD then... so, that's your Ubuntu filesystem for sure?
[05:23] <cypher1> rowanjl, which installer ? also do you mean that X is not loading
[05:23] <dromer> LjL: yes
[05:23] <ubuntu_help> nameless: but i did the md5 without burning and it is the same (accessing the iso directly and the iso md5 is correct)
[05:23] <dromer> that's what Gparted says anyway
[05:24] <namelesss> ubuntu_help, before byrning maybe
[05:24] <mindstate> anyone got info on usb digital cam setup to grab photos
[05:24] <MojoWork> knolleary: probably just have to twiddle the right control in the mixer
[05:24] <deltaray2> I'm wanting to setup an Ubuntu server.   Does the server install CD allow you to do LVM?  Or do I need the alternate CD for that?
[05:24] <namelesss> ubuntu_help, but maybe the burn process failed
[05:24] <neo_> Hey guys, can anyone help me out with setting Ubuntu up with dual monitors?
[05:24] <rowanjl> cypher1: 6.10, X just says "No Screens Found".
[05:24] <LjL> dromer: ok, type "sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/hda2/ /dev/hda"
[05:24] <knolleary> MojoWork: yeah, thats what I thought, but the mixer has only got master, pcm, CD and microphone.
[05:24] <Llais> deltaray2: your server cd should handle lvm
[05:24] <cypher1> rowanjl, to understand better.. you boot and then see "No Screens Found" ?
[05:25] <pbureau> knolleary, should have a pc speaker one as well.
[05:25] <Gorlist> anyone know why this happens when running OpenOffice on Xubuntu: http://www.ironfoot.co.uk/test/OpenOfficeError.jpg
[05:25] <dromer> LjL: ok, running ..
[05:25] <ubuntu_help> nameless: to clarify my concern: an md5 of the file as obtained from ubuntu does not match the md5 listed by the same file in the md5sum.txt file provided by ubuntu
[05:25] <knolleary> pbureau: nope
[05:25] <nikko> hi.... I have docked my laptop... When I boot up I see the text on my external monitor, but when X starts, the external monitor just shows some random-colors.... Do somebody know if I have to change something in xorg.conf
[05:25] <pbureau> knolleary, you in gnome ? does the speaker show on the toolbar ?
[05:25] <knolleary> pbureau: yes, and yes
[05:25] <dromer> LjL: ok, it's done, a minor error on xfs_freeze
[05:25] <Gorlist> sorry http://www.ironfoot.co.uk/OpenOfficeError.jpg
[05:26] <LjL> dromer: uh? you're using xfs?
[05:26] <pbureau> knolleary, right mouse click, open volume control
[05:26] <rowanjl> cypher1: yep, X tries to start a few times, then gives an error message, in which it states my video card make, then says "no devices found", then "no screens found"
[05:26] <LjL> dromer: can grub even boot from xfs?
[05:26] <cypher1> rowanjl, can you paste your Xorg.0.log
[05:26] <knolleary> pbureau: yup - im there already
[05:26] <rowanjl> cypher1: nope :/
[05:26] <pbureau> knolleary, edit - preferences
[05:26] <dromer> LjL: afaik I have ext3 on hda2
[05:26] <cypher1> !pastebin > rowanjl
[05:26] <LjL> dromer: but you have xfs partitions too?
[05:26] <pbureau> knolleary, select what you want to "show" on panel
[05:26] <rowanjl> I don't have any real way of getting the logs.
[05:27] <K1GPL> dear fellow ubuntu users, i start a game, freecol, and it goes to full-screen mode.  how can i move to other windows while it is running?
[05:27] <cypher1> rowanjl, it can be found in /var/log directory
[05:27] <knolleary> pbureau: yes, but if the pc speaker isn't listed then I can't selected it... :)
[05:27] <pbureau> knolleary, humm..
[05:27] <scoates> hi
[05:27] <LjL> K1GPL: depending on the specific game (don't know about freecol), there might be no way. you could always start a separate X server for the game, i suppose, if nothing else works
[05:27] <knolleary> pbureau: yeah... thats what I thought. Which brought me here :)
[05:27] <rowanjl> cypher1: alright, I'll try to mount something when I run the installer and save the logs
[05:28] <rowanjl> back soon.
[05:28] <LjL> Ubotu, tell cypher1 about away | cypher1, see the private message from Ubotu
[05:28] <kanpachi> anyone has any idea on how to burn ape/flac (lossless) files to cd? i mean create an audio cd using those
[05:28] <freezey> if i am running a website... is it ok for my SQL server host to still be localhost?
[05:28] <dromer> LjL: only ext3, ntfs and linux-swap
[05:28] <kanpachi> on ubuntu ofcourse
[05:28] <pbureau> knolleary, odd.... you using Volume Control 2.16.1?
[05:28] <tom47> ubuntu-help just as a matter of interest have you tried mounting the iso (not the cd) and checking the md5sum of the file before ts burned?
[05:28] <Gorlist> no suggestions for this then - http://www.ironfoot.co.uk/OpenOfficeError.jpg
[05:28] <Pici> freezey: yes, thats fine
[05:28] <nox-Hand> How does one remove a package INCLUDING settings?
[05:28] <knolleary> pbureau: ah, a bit more googling suggests I need to modprobe pcspkr
[05:28] <scoates> when I ACPI Sleep -> Restore, the restore phase is extremely slow. My CPU fan spins up to a very high RPM and my disk light stays on (for 3-10 minutes). Any idea how I can diagnose this problem (and fix it)?
[05:28] <LjL> dromer: then it's weird enough that grub is trying to do stuff with xfs... anyway, i don't know, i suppose just try rebooting and see
[05:28] <Gorlist> why theirs all the black mess at the top of the window
[05:28] <cypher1> LjL, sorry
[05:29] <cypher1> LjL, i did knew that. but did not realize it
[05:29] <K1GPL> thanks, i do know that ctl-tab doesn't do it
[05:29] <tom47> Gorlist i was asked for an id and password to access that url
[05:29] <dromer> LjL: I hope it worked, I gotta go for a lanparty and pack everything up :P
[05:29] <Gorlist> try this one:
[05:29] <Gorlist> http://www.ironfoot.co.uk/OpenOfficeError.jpg
[05:29] <pbureau> knolleary, odd it would not of reconized the basic pc speaker hardware on install though
[05:30] <knolleary> pbureau: in fact, I already have pcspkr
[05:30] <LjL> cypher1: you see, channels such as this are busy, and away messages would get very annoying if everyone used them. keep in mind that you can set yourself away silently (using  /away , on most clients, i think), and people will still know you're away when they /whois you
[05:30] <pbureau> knolleary, what version of volume control you using ?
[05:30] <knolleary> 2.16.1
[05:30] <pbureau> humm...
[05:30] <Gorlist> at the top of the OO window you can see the mess
[05:31] <Gorlist> not sure whats causing it
[05:31] <pbureau> knolleary, got me, levono is IBM basically... maybe a bug ?
[05:31] <Gorlist> its a resent install of latest Xubuntu
[05:31] <nox-Hand> Removing packages including settings via apt anyone?
[05:31] <ubuntu_help> tom47: yes, i've tried that
[05:31] <LjL> nox-Hand: "sudo apt-get --purge remove <package>"
[05:31] <ubuntu_help> i think this is a problem you can recreate
[05:31] <ubuntu_help> 0F1EF97D599722D06F4B3340BBD6793A is the md5 of the file smbfs_3.0.22-1ubuntu4_i386.deb in ubuntu-6.10-server-i386.iso
[05:31] <ubuntu_help> 0F1EF97D599722D06F4B3340BBD6793A is the md5 of the file smbfs_3.0.22-1ubuntu4_i386.deb that I downloaded from http://ubuntu.interlegis.gov.br/archive/pool/main/s/samba/
[05:31] <ubuntu_help> a4e2ea782531413f48a242f2e09070a0 is the md5 of the file /pool/main/s/samba/smbfs_3.0.22-1ubuntu4_i386.deblisted that is listed in /md5sum.txt on ubuntu-6.10-server-i386.iso
[05:31] <LjL> Ubotu, tell ubuntu_help about paste | ubuntu_help, see the private message from Ubotu
[05:31] <Pici> !paste | ubuntu_help
[05:31] <ubotu> ubuntu_help: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:32] <knolleary> pbureau: possibly - ill ask around
[05:32] <Llais> is ubuntu_help a bot per chance?
[05:32] <pbureau> knolleary, sorry I wasnt of any help man
[05:32] <ubuntu_help> ubotu: thanks for the tip
[05:32] <knolleary> pbureau: nah, you've put me on the right track... :) thats a good start
[05:32] <pbureau> knolleary, may want to try thr ubuntu forums for T60
[05:33] <knolleary> thanks
[05:33] <apokryphos> Llais: ubotu is
[05:33] <apokryphos> ubotu: bot | Llais
[05:33] <ubotu> Llais: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:33] <freezey> how do you create the root account in MySql
[05:33] <pbureau> knolleary, I meant search for T60 on ubuntu forums... sure someone else got on in the world.. :)
[05:33] <Gorlist> is it perhaps im missing some library/package to cause the problem?
[05:33] <pbureau> !snack
[05:33] <Gorlist> ive tried reinstalling OO
[05:33] <Gorlist> OpenOfficeError.jpg
[05:33] <cypherdelic> hello
[05:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about snack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:33] <HajoSK> hello
[05:33] <knolleary> pbureau: I know of a couple at work... its just too late on a friday to get a hold of them :)
[05:33] <Gorlist> http://www.ironfoot.co.uk/OpenOfficeError.jpg
[05:34] <cypherdelic> i have a problem to deinstall a package, its "havp"
[05:34] <cypherdelic> dpkg: Fehler beim Bearbeiten von havp (--configure):
[05:34] <cypherdelic>  Unterprozess post-installation script gab den Fehlerwert 1 zurck
[05:34] <cypherdelic> i cant install
[05:34] <mindstate> anyone got info on usb digital cam setup to grab photos?
[05:34] <cypherdelic> i cant deinstall
[05:34] <erUSUL> !paste | cypherdelic
[05:34] <ubotu> cypherdelic: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:34] <cypherdelic> i cant force deinstall
[05:34] <cypherdelic> erUSUL, what do you mean?
[05:35] <namelesss> cypherdelic, sudo aptitude remove ?
[05:35] <LjL> ubuntu_help: i can confirm that my checksum for that package is 0f1ef97d599722d06f4b3340bbd6793a
[05:35] <erUSUL> cypherdelic: rm the deb file from /var/cache/apt/archives/
[05:35] <erUSUL> cypherdelic: and try again
[05:35] <namelesss> rocky balboa :)
[05:35] <ubuntu_help> LjL: great, so you've confirmed it. what does your md4sum.txt say it should be?
[05:35] <erUSUL> cypherdelic: do not paste program output in the channel
[05:36] <ubuntu_help> LjL: I meant /md5su.txt
[05:36] <Gorlist> guess no one knows, I had posted on the forums couple of days ago with no reply :(
[05:36] <LjL> ubuntu_help: hm, i'm afraid i don't have a CD handy, not to mention a server CD. but if your CD gives that different checksum, there's no reason to doubt it's actually the checksum that's listed on the official CD... so i guess file a bug
[05:36] <pbureau> Gorlist, have you checked with the openoffice web site forums ?
[05:36] <cypherdelic> erUSUL, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3838/
[05:37] <Gorlist> well ive not, as its a supplied package with Xubuntu
[05:37] <Gorlist> and the program works fine
[05:37] <Gorlist> just the application bar
[05:37] <erUSUL> cypherdelic: have you tried rming the deb file as i said
[05:37] <pbureau> Gorlist, yes butnot maintained by ubuntu why I suggested it, could be an internal bug they have a work around for on their web site (justa suggestion)
[05:37] <cypherdelic> no wait
[05:37] <aciddrops> im having a prob with java crashing the 32bit firefox in the 64bit ubuntu
[05:38] <eXistenZ> How can I install xmms2 on ubuntu?
[05:38] <pbureau> Gorlist, hey are you using a custom theme perhaps ?
[05:38] <feazzu> !beryl
[05:38] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[05:38] <ubuntu_help> LjL: ok, i'll assume it is a bug and submit it
[05:38] <eXistenZ> !xmms2
[05:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xmms2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:39] <cypherdelic> erUSUL, it's not in there
[05:39] <Gorlist> sorry irc froze
[05:39] <cypherdelic> erUSUL, do you need my output in english?
[05:39] <pbureau> Gorlist, hey are you using a custom theme perhaps ?
[05:39] <LjL> ubuntu_help: i don't see a bug already submitted about that. but given that we both have the same checksum for the actual file, and that i really cannot see how your md5sums.txt could get corrupted in such a subtle manner, i'd say it's a bug.
[05:39] <agliv5> bulmer hi I'm back again... got my hd mounted and am trying to fix 6.06 but there's an error removing scim-gtk2-immodule... do you think you can help out? http://pastebin.co.uk/9935
[05:39] <Gorlist> this it what OO looks like - http://www.ironfoot.co.uk/OpenOfficeError.jpg
[05:39] <rowanjl> I can't boot the 6.10 installer, here are my X logs as requested by cypher1|away: http://pastebin.ca/337206
[05:39] <Gorlist> its all default as far as I know
[05:40] <agliv5> http://pastebin.co.uk/9935 problems removing a package can anyone help?
[05:40] <sealence> Does anyone success in compile and install moc2.4.1 on Dapper?
[05:40] <rowanjl> can tell me how I can make the install CD work, even in text mode...
[05:41] <pbureau> Gorlist, KDE?
[05:41] <scoates> it takes a really long time for my laptop to resume from ACPI S3 (suspend to ram). Can someone suggest where I should look to figure out why?
[05:41] <cypherdelic> erUSUL, there is no havp file in /var/cache/apt/archives, what to do?
[05:41] <agliv5> I'm trying to fix Ubuntu 6.06 from a LiveCD and am having problems with apt-get remove... anyone feel up to helping?
[05:41] <aciddrops> what in nice in processes?
[05:42] <erUSUL> cypherdelic: have you tried the program advice namely 'sudo chown havp /var/run/havp'
[05:42] <neo_> Hey I want to install Beryl on Ubuntu here...I don't know which one to download though
[05:42] <Gorlist> no Xubuntu
[05:42] <neo_> I mean, I have a Nvidia card
[05:42] <neo_> But I didn't get any specific drivers for it
[05:42] <neo_> At lest not manually
[05:42] <deltaray2> Llais, thanks. I just wanted to know which one to download.
[05:42] <neo_> Should I still get the nVidia Beryl thing?
[05:42] <neo_> Or what?
[05:42] <erUSUL> cypherdelic: or 'sudo /etc/init.d/havp stop' ??
[05:42] <cypherdelic> erUSUL, No Such file or Directory!
[05:42] <neo_> Anyone up to helping me out with this?
[05:43] <neo_> Come on, no one can help with this problem?
[05:43] <scoates> neo_: patience.
[05:43] <tom47> !beryl
[05:43] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[05:43] <rowanjl> dremon: feel like helping me with this installer stuff? :(
[05:43] <pbureau> Gorlist, okay so your using KDE, I use gnome... and this is the only app that does that ? if it is I would check openoffice web site for a possible answer ... sorry I cannot help I cannot see where the problem lies, except the video drive being used is "partial incompatible in some way"
[05:43] <Gorlist> oh well
[05:43] <cypherdelic> erUSUL, I did! Still the same if i try uninstalling!
[05:44] <dremon> rowanjl: what's going on?
[05:44] <Pici> agliv5: AFAIK, you cant remove packages from a permanent install from the livecd
[05:44] <Gorlist> well i can use gnumeric fine
[05:44] <sealence> Does anyone success in compile and install moc2.4.1 on Dapper?
[05:44] <Gorlist> will try over at OO then
[05:44] <tom47> !beryl > neo_
[05:44] <aleksanteri> one more time... why the taskbar doesn't respond? tried to restart it, to restart X... :|
[05:44] <rowanjl> dremon: well, thanks to your suggestion I got to the part where X tries to load, but it fails: http://pastebin.ca/337206
[05:45] <neo_> Yes, tom?
[05:45] <cypherdelic> erUSUL, doesnt work any ideas?
[05:45] <rowanjl> "Fatal server error: no screens found"
[05:45] <verma> hey people, where are the certificates stored in ubuntu, I was expecting to find them in /usr/share/ssl
[05:46] <tom47> neo_ you may be better to try #ubuntu-xgl
[05:46] <erUSUL> cypherdelic: no, i'm out of ideas sorry :( maybe others can be of more help
[05:46] <agliv5> Pici but I can install them, so why can't I remove them?
[05:47] <dremon> rowanjl: looks like the monitor is not recognized
[05:47] <sealence> no one use moc?
[05:47] <cypherdelic> Cant uninstall Application "havp". Uninstall-Error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3838/
[05:47] <cypherdelic> please help anyone
[05:47] <dremon> how do you have it connected?
[05:47] <rowanjl> dremon: with the old style connector
[05:47] <tom47> Gorlist: have you tried #xubuntu?
[05:48] <Pici> agliv5: Let me see if I have this correct.  You've installed something to your perm. install, and are trying to remove it but from the LiveCD environment?
[05:48] <mindstate> anyone got info on usb digital cam setup to grab photos?
[05:48] <dremon> did you try changing the resolution _AND_ the color depth to 24 bits?
[05:48] <j2daosh> once again, the installation failed
[05:48] <Pici> agliv5: sorry, have a meeting gtg
[05:48] <MojoWork> any glaring issues updating from dapper to edgy?
[05:48] <cypherdelic> Cant uninstall Application "havp". Uninstall-Error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3838/, please help!
[05:49] <rowanjl> dremon: I can't change the X config, only the boot res :/
[05:49] <agliv5> Pici I had to update glib to 2.12 because of a dependency, but in order for it to work, I first had to remove glib2.0.0
[05:49] <Gorlist> tom47: will do now
[05:49] <j2daosh> i get grub 21 errors trying to load to windows, and i cant write "irqpoll" to my menu.lst file in windows because of unknown errors
[05:49] <dremon> You can still try with alternate install cd (in text mode)
[05:50] <minimec> MojoWork: I had some problems with flash and the xserver.
[05:50] <dremon> it has more options anyway, so it is better
[05:50] <agliv5> Pici after removing glib2.0.0 and installing glib 2.12 ubuntu was all messed up, so now I'm trying to fix it via livecd as others have suggested
[05:50] <rowanjl> dremon: I've already spent 24 hours to download the normal one :(
[05:50] <MojoWork> minimec: flash i'm not too worried about. what happened with X?
[05:50] <cypherdelic> j2daosh, boot from livecd, mount your fs, chown in, configure grub
[05:50] <cypherdelic> Cant uninstall Application "havp". Uninstall-Error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3838/, please help!
[05:50] <pbureau> MojoWork, heard some people havingsynpatic pakages issues (the source.list file indicates "dapper" instead of edgy, some people reported having to do the upgrade 2 times to get everthing right... (just aheads up  man)
[05:50] <rowanjl> there must be some way of making it accept my monitor as a generic one, or something
[05:51] <minimec> MojoWork: I had to reinstall the mouse and keyboard driver of xorg
[05:51] <Yancho> i installed proftpd now how can i load it up pls ?
[05:51] <cypherdelic> cypher1,  eh, you got a highlihght everytime i write, right?
[05:51] <dremon> I'm not really familiar with installer, sorry... Just had similar problem that was solved by adjusting boot res.
[05:51] <CyberCod> anyone familiar with "UNCLAIMED" hardware and what that means?
[05:51] <MojoWork> pbureau: hmm...i hand edited sources.list and did an apt-get dist-upgrade so that should be covered
[05:51] <MojoWork> minimec: thanks
[05:52] <agliv5> cypherdelic having similar problems..
[05:52] <j2daosh> cypherdelic: if only it was that easy
[05:52] <minimec> MojoWork: ... but I had also a clean update on my laptop. I don't know why.
[05:52] <pbureau> CyberCod, usually indicatesno drivers installed, what does lspci |grep ethernet say about your card ?
[05:52] <cypher1> cypherdelic, no
[05:52] <zyth> Do I need V4L enabled in my xorg config to use a webcam in edgy?
[05:52] <cypherdelic> agliv5, i know i watched your paste
[05:52] <rowanjl> dremon: thanks anyhow
[05:52] <CyberCod> pbureau its a 56k integrated modem
[05:52] <j2daosh> i dont know what my windows disk should be labels as
[05:52] <MojoWork> i probably shouldn't be doing this with X running, heh
[05:53] <j2daosh> not to mention i had to boot with windows disk and overwrite grub and the way to fix it according to the ubuntu forums doesn't seem to work
[05:53] <CyberCod> so should that be lspci | grep modem?
[05:53] <habeeb> How can I do this command: mpg123 -w myfile.wav myfile.mp3. For each file in a directory? I want the mp3 and wav to have the same names. Thanks.
[05:53] <cypherdelic> j2daosh, i got grub error 21 once, and it was because the order of my partitions changed due to gparted action and that solved my problem
[05:53] <rowanjl> cypher1: I have the logs, and supposedly it can't detect my screen. Is it possible to force it somehow?
[05:54] <minimec> MojoWork: I don't remember if I did a upgrade with the gui
[05:54] <agliv5> ok there's no such thing as apt-remove so how do you remove a package that won't go away?
[05:54] <cypherdelic> j2daosh,  you fixed it with windows overwriting the mbr
[05:54] <cypherdelic> ?
[05:54] <cypherdelic> ?
[05:54] <LjL> agliv5: "sudo apt-get remove package"?
[05:54] <cypher1> rowanjl, did you paste it @ pastebin
[05:54] <j2daosh> cypherdelic: mine didn't change due to gparted, mine changes because intel chipset doesn't like my linux
[05:54] <rowanjl> cypher1: http://pastebin.ca/337206
[05:54] <pbureau> CyberCod, what exactlk (cut and paste that line please) about your card (chipset)
[05:55] <CyberCod> 0000:00:1f.6 Modem: Intel Corporation 82801AA AC'97 Modem (rev 02)
[05:55] <LjL> agliv5: "dpkg -r package", or "dpkg --force-something -r package", see the dpkg manpage for what --force options you can use (and read the part where it says they can be dangerous ;)
[05:55] <cypher1> rowanjl, hold on let me check it
[05:55] <rowanjl> cypher1: cool
[05:55] <j2daosh> it doesn't load everything properly into my southbridge (i think that was what i read while researching my problem)
[05:55] <cypherdelic> Cant uninstall Application "havp". Uninstall-Error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3838/, please help!
[05:55] <j2daosh> so then ubuntu or any other linux for that mater cant seem to detect my controllers and devices attached properly
[05:55] <t|om> hi, I installed nvidia glx X11, but it's really slow and glx is on. xinerama is on. http://rafb.net/p/tn2sq755.html
[05:55] <cypherdelic> j2daosh, so your kernel cant acces the controller?
[05:56] <j2daosh> apparantly not
[05:56] <kcinna> hey all
[05:56] <cypher1> rowanjl, can you please paste /etc/X11/xorg.conf also ?
[05:56] <cypherdelic> j2daosh,  so try compile new kernel module, but ive no idea about that
[05:56] <rdz> hello everyone. how can i disable window-redrawinf during window-move
[05:56] <kcinna> i cant get port forwarding to work for filesharing, i've enabled port forwarding in my router, is there anything else i should do?
[05:56] <j2daosh> i managed to get the live cd to install by adding the irqpoll option, which fixed my irq issues, but my primary hd is showing up as hdf and my grub thinks its hd0,0
[05:57] <agliv5> LjL sudo apt-get remove package "x" says it's not installed but sudo-apt get package "y" says package "x" has to be removed and then fails the install of "y" because of an error
[05:57] <jharr> Is there a channel (an active channel) that I can go to for help with isc bind?
[05:57] <j2daosh> cypherdelic: i have the fiesty fawn kernel
[05:57] <rowanjl> cypher1: alright, but I have to reboot and load the installer, is it an absolute must?
[05:57] <j2daosh> the old dapper and edgy kernels didn't work
[05:57] <tom47> cypherdelic it won't uninstall because its not installed .... have you explored the ownership of the file it suggested in the original error message
[05:57] <CyberCod> pbureau   it says 0000:00:1f.6 Modem: Intel Corporation 82801AA AC'97 Modem (rev 02)
[05:57] <LjL> agliv5: what about "sudo apt-get install x"?
[05:57] <Gorlist> to solve the problem with OpenOffice in Xubuntu- you have to run:
[05:58] <cypherdelic> j2daosh, ask in #ubuntu+1
[05:58] <Gorlist> sudo aptitude install openoffice.org-gtk
[05:58] <habeeb> How can I do this command: mpg123 -w myfile.wav myfile.mp3. For each file in a directory? I want the mp3 and wav to have the same names. Thanks.
[05:58] <cypher1> rowanjl, you are seeing this when using livecd ??
[05:58] <cypherdelic> tom47, i cant find those files
[05:58] <rowanjl> cypher1: yeah
[05:58] <bigcx2> habeeb
[05:58] <t|om> Does anyone help me fix ma xorg.conf? It's slow instead of dri and glx is running. I don't know why it's so slow:(
[05:58] <bigcx2> have you ever used find before
[05:59] <agliv5> LjL that seems to be helping :)
[05:59] <kcinna> !dhcp
[05:59] <habeeb> bigcx2: ye
[05:59] <ubotu> dhcp: DHCP server for automatic IP address assignment. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0pl5-19.4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 108 kB, installed size 308 kB
[05:59] <kcinna> !nat
[05:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:59] <habeeb> but i will probably fail piping it bigcx2
[05:59] <bigcx2> habeeb: are you converting wav's to mp3's
[05:59] <freezey> how do i make something world readable?
[05:59] <bigcx2> no
[05:59] <bigcx2> find has exec
[05:59] <habeeb> bigcx2: the opposite. mp3s to wavs
[05:59] <freezey> like how do i make it www-data
[05:59] <bigcx2> ok
[05:59] <bigcx2> so something like this
[05:59] <LjL> agliv5: when you want to remove, install, when you want to install, remove, utnubu ot emoclew :P
[06:00] <t|om> or could someone with xinerama on dualhead and nvidia chipset paste me his xorg.conf
[06:00] <bigcx2> find -name .mp3 -type f -exec [command] 
[06:00] <usr13> trying to install proftpd, but not finding it in current repos
[06:00] <bigcx2> if you man find and go to the very bottom there's an example of it
[06:00] <habeeb> Thank you very much bigcx2 !
[06:00] <freezey> whats the command to make something www-data?
[06:01] <LjL> Ubotu, tell freezey about permissions | freezey, see the private message from Ubotu
[06:01] <bigcx2> np
[06:01] <cypherdelic> tom47, there is no /var/run/havp, there is no /var/cache/apt/archives/havp
[06:01] <usr13> E: Couldn't find package proftpd
[06:01] <LjL> !proftpd
[06:01] <ubotu> proftpd: Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.0-9ubuntu0.1 (edgy), package size 594 kB, installed size 1532 kB
[06:01] <LjL> usr13: enable universe
[06:01] <agliv5> LjL you seem prety good at this ;) perhaps you could help me fix everything I screwed up?
[06:01] <rowanjl> cypher1: I guess I'll just have to download the textmode installer. I've been trying to install Ubuntu for the past 6 hours, and its just gone 3:30AM :/
[06:01] <cypherdelic> Cant uninstall Application "havp". Uninstall-Error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3838/, please help!
[06:02] <wonderwoman> i need printer help
[06:02] <usr13> After enabling universe .... ?
[06:02] <mindstate> anyone know how i could get my USB digital cam to work
[06:02] <pbureau> CyberCod, hang on let me check something
[06:02] <usr13> restart - refrest - something?
[06:02] <habeeb> btw bigcx2 there is another problem. The file name. I dont know how to name the converted wav file to match the mp3's name
[06:02] <CyberCod> pbureau.. kk
[06:03] <bigcx2> when you do exec in find
[06:03] <agliv5> I had to update glib to >= 2.5 and, in doing so, removed the standard glib ubuntu package.  Ubuntu didn't like that and now I'm trying to fix it.  Anyone feel up to helping me?
[06:03] <bigcx2> the symbol {} references the current filename
[06:03] <habeeb> I see.
[06:03] <habeeb> so mpg123 -w {}.wav {}.mp3, would do the trick?
[06:04] <LjL> usr13: "sudo apt-get update" after enabling universe, then install proftpd
[06:04] <bigcx2> possibly...you might have to use sed or something to strip off the extension in your command
[06:04] <minimec> cypherdelic: sudo dpkg --force-remove harp ?
[06:04] <LjL> usr13: make sure you enable universe in edgy-updates and edgy-security also (or the Dapper equivalents if you're using that)
[06:04] <habeeb> bigcx2: I see. Thank you very much, again.
[06:04] <cypher1> rowanjl, i guess you can try giving vga option while bootinh
[06:04] <bigcx2> np
[06:04] <agliv5> I have a question.  If I install a new version of ubuntu, will my files in /home/ be effected?
[06:04] <usr13> LjL: yes, thanks
[06:04] <cypher1> rowanjl, i guess grub menu
[06:04] <LjL> agliv5: glib or glibc?
[06:04] <nothlit> agliv5: depends on how you format
[06:04] <motin_> Morning! Can I install multiple locales without necessarily using them as main languages? I need my webserver to be able to display time and dates in different locales.
[06:04] <nothlit> agliv5: but by default, yes
[06:05] <bigcx2> agliv5: do you mean an upgrade?
[06:05] <agliv5> nothlit please explain
[06:05] <rowanjl> cypher1: I can't focus on this anymore (3:30am), the alternate cd is downloading. thanks for the help
[06:05] <nothlit> agliv5: the best thing is if /home was on a seperate partition
[06:05] <bigcx2> err...dist-upgrade?
[06:05] <cypher1> rowanjl, ok
[06:05] <rowanjl> night
[06:05] <pbureau> CyberCod, try sudo alsaconf  from a terminal window what does it do ?
[06:05] <agliv5> bigcx2 I mean currently 6.06 want 6.10
[06:05] <cypher1> rowanjl, GN
[06:05] <Vuen> hey guys, every time i launch kontact it launches the stupid korganizer system tray icon
[06:05] <Vuen> how do i get rid of it?
[06:06] <bigcx2> yea if you just change your sources.list and do a dist-upgrade it won't touch your home dir
[06:06] <Vigo> My BIOS or something is messed up, when I look at D: I do not see Ubuntu 6.10 Edgy Eft on windows startup, I lost the boot select, would re-install repair it or goof up the boot.ini?
[06:06] <agliv5> nothlit how do I view my partitions?
[06:06] <chrismhampson> does anyone know how to delete beagled firefox data?
[06:06] <agliv5> it's been a while since I messed with fstab
[06:06] <nothlit> agliv5: you can use fdisk/cfdisk for command line utilities, or use gparted
[06:06] <nothlit> !gparted | agliv5
[06:06] <ubotu> agliv5: gparted is gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "sudo apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[06:07] <aleksanteri> :( i want at least my taskbar back
[06:07] <pumpkinhead> hello. where can i specify the default application to open, say, a .jpg file?
[06:07] <minimec> cypherdelic: Still here?
[06:07] <habeeb> bigcx2: $ find -name .mp3 -type f -exec mpg123 -w {}.wav {}.mp3;
[06:07] <habeeb> find: missing argument to `-exec'
[06:08] <sealence> sudo fdisk -l
[06:08] <LjL> habeeb: try a \ before the ;
[06:08] <LjL> habeeb: can never remember the right syntax for that
[06:08] <rpog> hi, i am using xubuntu, and wanted to directly access my windows shared folders ( it's the host O.S.) but the ubuntu guide doesnt work in this case. Is there a simple how-to for this?
[06:08] <agliv5> nothlit gparted terminated glib option error
[06:09] <wonderwoman> does anybody know why when i install kubuntu wine does not open kdisk does not open limewire does not open
[06:09] <Kira> I know there is a guide about installing Ubuntu on an Intel-based Mac, but what if I have already installed Bootcamp and Windows? I would like avoid reinstalling Windows and Mac OS X, if possible. :S
[06:09] <wonderwoman> any1?
[06:09] <minimec> pumpkinhead: properties of the file in thunar or nautilus
[06:09] <pumpkinhead> mimimec: doh! ty :)
[06:09] <minimec> ;)
[06:10] <foxure> Hello. Anyone knows a terminal program that handles camera output? Need to save pictures and streams from my Trust Spacecam
[06:10] <habeeb> What ";" LjL ?
[06:10] <minimec> foxure: mplayer?
[06:10] <TheInfinity> pictures: camstream
[06:10] <bigcx2> habeeb: i remember having to use backslashes \ to escape some stuff from shell
[06:10] <TheInfinity> videos: mplayer
[06:10] <Vigo_> pumpkinhead: You can set Gimp as your default viewer.
[06:10] <bigcx2> that may or may not help
[06:10] <LjL> habeeb: the only one there is in that command :P the one after ".mp3", at the end
[06:10] <mindstate> i believe my digital cam is being recognized as a mass storage device but no /dev/sd* exists in my /etc/fstab any help?
[06:11] <HymnToLife> mindstate, add one, then
[06:11] <minimec> Vigo_: Gimp is not a viewer!
[06:11] <HymnToLife> or mount the device yourself
[06:11] <cypherdelic> mindstate, yes
[06:11] <nothlit> agliv5: try using cfdisk then to take a look
[06:11] <foxure> minimec:  Maybe. But i can't play /dev/video1. So im stuck there
[06:11] <rpog> if ubuntu is so great, why is this channel pratically about helping... must be very hard to use it
[06:11] <Vigo_> minimec: Yes, Gimp is tyhe defauilt image viewer in Ubuntu
[06:11] <cstextiles> Is there any apt tool for windows which will download all the neccessary dependencies and that package so that it can be transferred to Ubuntu PC Later on?
[06:11] <mindstate> HymnToLife, ok thanks i will try
[06:11] <cypherdelic> minimec, , yes (sry mindstate )
[06:12] <Vigo_> *the
[06:12] <HymnToLife> hi Seveas :)
[06:12] <minimec> Vigo_: gthumb is a viewer. small... fast...
[06:12] <pumpkinhead> rpog: geesh, ppl have plenty of probs with other OSes, there just aren't ppl willing to help :(
[06:12] <cypherdelic> minimec, any idea about my problem?
[06:12] <habeeb> LjL: genius... That didnt bring out errors but it just returned me to the command prompt:  find -name .mp3 -type f -exec mpg123 -w {}.wav {}.mp3 \;
[06:12] <cypherdelic> Cant uninstall Application "havp". Uninstall-Error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3838/, please help!
[06:12] <habeeb> hasd@asdw: ~/sad$
[06:12] <Ace2016> What is  /sbin/dhclient3  i've never come across it before
[06:12] <wonderwoman> does anybody know why when i install kubuntu wine does not open kdisk does not open limewire does not open
[06:13] <rpog> pumpkinhead: yeah, i guess you're right
[06:13] <bigcx2> habeeb: you could also try xargs
[06:13] <LjL> habeeb: i think you need  -name "*.mp3"   rather than -name .mp3
[06:13] <minimec> cypherdelic: sudo aptitude --force-remove harp or sudo dpkg --force-remove ...
[06:13] <cypherdelic> minimec, but its HAVP
[06:13] <tom47> cypherdelic have you tried the suggesion here?  >>> http://havp.hege.li/forum/viewtopic.php?t=186
[06:13] <Vigo_> minimet: Oh ok, just a viewer. I was makeing IrfanView into a package before my sys crashed, was not Ubuntu or Win crash, power surge :-(
[06:13] <bigcx2> find .  -name .svn -type d -print | xargs mpg123...
[06:14] <bigcx2> whoops
[06:14] <foxure> minimec: I get "Cannot seek backward in linear streams"  "Seek failed" if thats for any help..
[06:14] <bigcx2> find .  -name .mp3 -type f -print | xargs mpg123...
[06:14] <ladykeiden> hi all. today my hard drive died. gotta reinstall at least a minimal system to get bact to work. i am getting a new laptop monday but got work to do this weekend that cant wait. can i safely move my hard drive to the new laptop and expect it to boot properly is i don't install any drivers other that for my wifi, knowing i will need to fix my wifi on the new laptop?
[06:14] <eXistenZ> How can I install xmms2 on edgy?
[06:14] <habeeb> Seems like it worked LjL
[06:14] <LjL> bigcx2: still, no matter whether xargs is used or not, are we sure "-name .mp3" would work? that isn't my reading of "man find"
[06:14] <minimec> cypherdelic: I thought you wanted to remove this package. I saw the pastebin
[06:14] <habeeb> Thanks LjL
[06:15] <noneee> hello, how can I disable the tooltips?
[06:15] <bigcx2> LjL: i used it yesterday on .svn
[06:15] <Humza> I'm trying to install ubuntu 6.10 from a "desktop cd". but about 1min after selecting "start or install ubuntu" in the graphical interface, the screen freezes and nothing happens. what's wrong? thanks.
[06:15] <bigcx2> and it worked
[06:15] <Lionheart> Thanks for the help earlier, getting used to this OS and it's awesome! Bye bye
[06:16] <minimec> foxure: sorry... I don't know a lot about mplayer. I use ist sometimes with my tvcard.
[06:16] <LjL> bigcx2, with -name "*.mp3" it will work, but i don't see how it can work with -name .mp3
[06:16] <LjL> bigcx2: -name requires a full-filename match
[06:16] <gu014> whats the command to determine my exact cpu?
[06:16] <LjL> bigcx2: well, full filename without the path that is
[06:16] <bigcx2> oh nm i see what you're saying
[06:16] <LjL> gu014: cat /proc/cpuinfo will hopefully do
[06:16] <bigcx2> yea
[06:16] <bigcx2> tru story
[06:16] <minimec> foxure: you can save a /dev/video stream to your harddisk.
[06:16] <apokryphos> gu014: also hwinfo --cpu
[06:16] <bigcx2> .svn was my full-filename match
[06:16] <CyberCod> pbureau sorry kid emergency... one moment
[06:17] <haxality> hello, I'm having a problem with my modem, and was wondering if anyone had had similar experience
[06:17] <foxure> minimec: okey.. thanks anyway
[06:17] <haxality> it's an AC'97 modem
[06:17] <Vigo_> I forgot how to set up the Select OS at boot, will Grub loader do that? or do I need to do it in command line win?
[06:17] <ShadowX> sup peeps
[06:17] <CyberCod> pbureau command not found
[06:17] <cypherdelic> minimec, sudo aptidue --force-remove havp doesnt work
[06:17] <LjL> bigcx2: ah, that's different. note also that the quotations marks actually are needed when using * in -name, since otherwise they get interpreted by the shell, which is not what one wants
[06:17] <cstextiles> Humza: Just press Alt+F1 or Alt+F4 to view the messages from the debug console
[06:17] <usr13> Is there a firewall by default on Ubuntu 6.10?
[06:17] <gu014> apokryphos,LjL, thank you
[06:18] <usr13> Is there a GUI interface for said firewall?
[06:18] <minimec> cypherdelic: Did you try to reinstall it?
[06:18] <bigcx2> indeed
[06:18] <pbureau> CyberCod, then the alsa mixer package is not installed, run synaptic and install it
[06:18] <LjL> Ubotu, tell usr13 about firewall | usr13, see the private message from Ubotu
[06:18] <haxality> usr13: sudo aptitude install firestarter
[06:18] <cypherdelic> dpkg: unbekannte force/refuse-Option remove
[06:18] <bigcx2> Vigo_: yes grub will do that
[06:18] <haxality> usr13: that's the GUI for it
[06:18] <CyberCod> pbureau ok
[06:18] <haxality> usr13: well, one of many
[06:18] <cypherdelic> minimec, ill try
[06:18] <Vigo_> bigcx2: Thank you
[06:18] <rpog> does anyone know how to access windows shared folders from xubuntu, not ubuntu ?
[06:19] <rpog> smb://<ip> doesnt work
[06:19] <Vigo_> Off to make this box FUN again. wheeeee
[06:19] <bigcx2> rpog: your window manager choice is independent of how you access the folders
[06:19] <agliv5> nothlit cfdisk says fatal error: cannot open disk drive
[06:19] <Vigo_> I thank you all for the help.
[06:19] <Humza> cstextiles: thanks. I'll try that
[06:19] <Shaffox> i'm thinking about going to linux, why do you guys recommend ubuntu?
[06:19] <nothlit> agliv5: you do know you can't partition a live filesystem right?
[06:20] <apokryphos> Shaffox: http://ubuntu.com
[06:20] <Vigo_> !iptables
[06:20] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[06:20] <cypherdelic> minimec, tom47: after mkdir the /var/run/havp and then reinstalling. it worked, thanks guys
[06:20] <nothlit> Shaffox: great big community, tons of users, and debian base
[06:20] <bigcx2> Shaffox: if you look, there is 992 people in this chatroom
[06:20] <rpog> bigcx2: if i instaled the window manager after ubuntu i would accept the answer, i suppose packages are missing
[06:20] <tom47> rpog maybe you could try #xubuntu???
[06:20] <rdz> Shaffox, because it is the easiest and best working linux i know
[06:20] <LjL> !offtopic
[06:20] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:20] <Vigo_> Did that help?
[06:20] <rpog> tom47:  i tried /j xubuntu  said there wasnt any
[06:20] <LjL> rpog: /j #xubuntu
[06:20] <tom47> rpog /join #xubuntu
[06:21] <rpog> :S ... other irc clients didnt do that lol..
[06:21] <agliv5> nothlit that's why it took me so long to respond.... I had to restart my broken 6.06 istall to run cfdisk
[06:21] <Shaffox> i want to try it first in vmware, downloading the iso
[06:21] <rpog> ok thx
[06:21] <agliv5> nothlit and fdisk -l isn't showing anything which is starting to freak me out...
[06:21] <LjL> rpog, channel names start with # almost universally. if some clients add a # automatically if you forget it, well, that might be, but it's definitely not the norm
[06:21] <bigcx2> Shaffox: why not just run the live mode
[06:21] <nothlit> agliv5: the livecd has gparted on it, and psychocats.net has a great tutorial about how to move your data to a home partition
[06:22] <rpog> LjL: i understand that, but i assumed it was the norm, everyone single one i tried did that
[06:22] <variant> anyone know a good program for finding and moving/tagging duplicate photos in a directory containing about 8,000 photos ?
[06:22] <Shaffox> how would i do that :s burn it on a cd, but my pc has some problems with starting from a cd :s
[06:22] <jesper> Hi. What is the current limitations of running and amd64 desktop system? Flash, Java, restricted-codecs?
[06:22] <variant> jesper: some programs wont work unless you use a 32bit chroot
[06:22] <LjL> !findimagedupes | variant
[06:22] <ubotu> findimagedupes: Finds visually similar or duplicate images. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.3-7 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 88 kB
[06:22] <variant> LjL: excellent, thanks
[06:22] <bigcx2> Shaffox: yes burn it onto a cd, and then at your bios menu select cdrom as the primary boot device
[06:23] <variant> LjL: is it a gui or command line? (would be nice to double check it's output
[06:23] <agliv5> nothlit so reboot live and run gparted?
[06:23] <Shaffox> my primary cd-reader is broken :s
[06:23] <variant> jesper: for example, wine, flash, win32codecs
[06:23] <LjL> variant: command line i'm afraid. but most probably better than simple generic "find duplicates" programs, even though there's GUIs for those, since it deals with different resolution images, etc
[06:23] <bigcx2> ah
[06:23] <LjL> variant: and different formats of course
[06:23] <Shaffox> but, when i put ubuntu in stead of windows, how would i do that
[06:23] <Shaffox> would al my files be lost ?
[06:24] <variant> LjL: cool, I will give it a shot. There is a patch in the works for f-spot to add that feature
[06:24] <CyberCod> pbureau there's tons of alsa stuff in there.. any specific package in mind?
[06:24] <bigcx2> Shaffox: what do you mean
[06:24] <bigcx2> in vmware?
[06:24] <Shaffox> no, in real
[06:24] <variant> Shaffox: you can dual boot, windows and ubuntu will be on differnet partitions
[06:24] <nothlit> agliv5: your main aim is to do a NEW installation while preserving your /home data?
[06:24] <pbureau> CyberCod, look for.. hang on
[06:24] <variant> Shaffox: you can share files between the two in a number of different ways
[06:24] <cstextiles> f i can find a way by which after mentioning metapackages I need to download only the Packages that may not be installed depending on the metapackages ment9ioned then it will mean lower files to be downlaoded? I actually had a site http://ljl.byethost14.com/apt but now it doesn't works
[06:24] <variant> Shaffox: and you choose which to load when you turn on the computer from a menu
[06:24] <LjL> !gnuift | variant, you could also have a look at this, though i never could quite get it to work (not that i've tried very hard). this has a KDE interface called kmrml, it's very likely there's some GNOME interface as well, maybe f-spot itself - but it's more geared towards finding images in general, than finding *duplicates*
[06:24] <ubotu> gnuift: GNU Image Finding Tool - index and search images by content. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.14-6.2 (edgy), package size 105 kB, installed size 264 kB
[06:24] <bigcx2> you could dual boot check out the windows installer for ubuntu
[06:25] <pbureau> CyberCod, let me start mine up
[06:25] <Shaffox> and how do i put ubuntu on the other disk partition ?
[06:25] <variant> LjL: thanks mate
[06:25] <maankar> hi guys
[06:25] <bigcx2> the installer will walk you through it
[06:25] <variant> Shaffox: just install windows first then install ubuntu, it has options in the installer that will let you choose where to install it
[06:25] <bigcx2> you need the windows installer
[06:25] <LjL> cstextiles: that's my site, and yes, it's unfortunately down... i could use it locally for you perhaps, what do you need?
[06:25] <bigcx2> right
[06:25] <D3LUX> Hello guys.. i need link to installition guide that let me install the os and stay also the win xp
[06:25] <cypherdelic> mom id like to thank you
[06:25] <cypherdelic> i love you
[06:26] <grimboy> D3LUX, psychocats
[06:26] <Shaffox> ah, that's good
[06:26] <grimboy> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index.php
[06:26] <grimboy> D3LUX, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index.php
[06:26] <BrendanM> Hey everyone, I'm trying to get a USB hard drive working, when I plug it in, I see under "dmesg | tail"   "usb 1-1.3: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 17"  where would I go about finding the drive in /dev/ to mount it?
[06:26] <D3LUX> grimboy, Thank you. :P
[06:26] <bigcx2> BrendanM: it should already be mounted
[06:27] <bigcx2> try /media/usbdisk
[06:27] <bigcx2> or your desktop
[06:27] <BrendanM> it didn't automount
[06:27] <agliv5> nothlit seeing as how I really messed up 6.06, I would like to get a clean install of 6.10 and perserve my /home data yes :)
[06:27] <bigcx2> oh
[06:27] <bigcx2> probably /dev/sda1
[06:27] <BrendanM> the file system is likely corrupted on the drive
[06:27] <BrendanM> it's not a flash drive
[06:27] <nox-Hand> Hey
[06:27] <drkm> how come I upload a file from console (e.g. using ftp) to my website but see the progress of it as FTP doesn't seem to show it ?
[06:27] <bigcx2> hm
[06:27] <BrendanM> it's actually a Dell Digital Jukebox. My friend dropped it and asked me to try to recover files off it
[06:27] <anAngel> Hello Beagle inst indexing any of the crawl files any help?
[06:27] <nothlit> agliv5: yes, then boot the livecd and gparted and follow the tutorial (remember pyschocats.net)
[06:27] <pbureau> CyberCod,  install : alsa-base , alsa-utils , gstreamer0-10-alsa , libasound2 , linux-sound-base
[06:28] <CyberCod> ok
[06:28] <LjL> cstextiles: oh, wait, it's not *as* down as it used to be these days, perhaps i can put it back online now, let me see
[06:28] <nox-Hand> Anyone know how to install ONLY XFCE, not all the applications?
[06:28] <Vigo> I am gonna try the partition swap drive, maybe it will work. ;-)
[06:28] <bigcx2> i'm not sure how to map address to devfs
[06:28] <Vigo> Thank you
[06:28] <bigcx2> addresses*
[06:28] <BrendanM> what does the " uhci_hcd and address 17" mean?
[06:28] <cstextiles> LjL,thanks
[06:28] <cstextiles> LjL, Are you putting it online now
[06:28] <cstextiles> ?
[06:29] <CyberCod> pbureau all of those are already installed
[06:29] <bigcx2> just the kernel's way of knowing where to access it
[06:29] <drkm> how come I upload a file from console (e.g. using ftp) to my website but see the progress of it as FTP doesn't seem to show it ?
[06:29] <anAngel> Hello Beagle inst indexing any of the crawl files any help?
[06:29] <agliv5> nothlit I've found pyschocats.net but I haven't found the tutorial you're talking about...
[06:29] <pbureau> CyberCod, really... humm.
[06:29] <CyberCod> are you sure of the spelling of alsaconf?
[06:29] <_Freedom0_> !seen eisen
[06:29] <LjL> cstextiles: i don't know, i have to see if i *can*. the web provider was down, and it's still not quite entirely worked... i don't seem to be able to upload yet
[06:29] <ubotu> I last saw eisen (n=eisen@xdsl-81-173-149-186.netcologne.de) 3h 14m 21s ago, quiting: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)
[06:29] <BrendanM> Ok, so if the kernel knows how to access it, how do I figure out how to get at it?
[06:30] <newbie> help compiling
[06:30] <bigcx2> BrendanM: You can pick up the user-level USB drivers from http://libnjb.sourceforge.net/
[06:30] <bigcx2> For a GUI interface, you can use http://www.ritter.demon.co.uk/index.html#gnomedap
[06:30] <agliv5> nothlit I think I found it now... talking about the backup ubuntu guide?
[06:30] <cstextiles> LjL, can you make that site permanent ?
[06:31] <LjL> cstextiles, can you hear me? the web provider IS DOWN! it would *be* permanent if it weren't :P
[06:31] <Humza> hi. my problem should be common. when trying to install ubuntu 6.10 from a desktop cd, the screen freezes after about 1min (and alt+f1 or alt+f4 doesn't work). what's wrong? thanks!
[06:31] <nothlit> agliv5: Beyond The Basics: Make a /home partition http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[06:31] <pbureau> CyberCod, if you go to system - administration - sound  can you see your card ?
[06:31] <instabin> I installed my system from the cd but grub failed to install. can some one tell me how to install grub
[06:31] <LjL> cstextiles: anyway, sorry, my account is still blocked. can't touch the site yet
[06:31] <BrendanM> I'd rather just mount it as a drive
[06:31] <CyberCod> yeah, the sound is fine, its the AC 97 modem thats defunct
[06:31] <ir2> hi guys
[06:31] <seww> need help with beryl. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3845/ after sudo apt-get install beryl
[06:32] <bigcx2> actually libnjb is packaged
[06:32] <bigcx2> install that
[06:32] <ir2> how can i increase my wireless card power ?
[06:32] <instabin> seww: join #ubuntu-xgl
[06:32] <cstextiles> LjL, do u have that script with u?
[06:32] <bigcx2> libnjb5
[06:32] <ir2> ?
[06:32] <CyberCod> I'm using a wireless card on it now, but once the PC goes back to its owner, they're gonna be usin dialup
[06:32] <bigcx2> njbtools
[06:32] <BigMonkey_> Hello, using Dapper here
[06:32] <seww> instabin k
[06:32] <LjL> cstextiles: yes, i don't have mysql and some of the stuff that it needs to run set up, though
[06:32] <Llais> ok folks, can someone explain to me why clicking install from the 6.10 desktop CD does absolutely nothing?
[06:32] <newbie> hello help please compiling
[06:32] <instabin> !grub
[06:32] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:32] <BrendanM> I already have libusb installed
[06:33] <bigcx2> not libusb
[06:33] <ir2> any one know how i can change my wireless power ?
[06:33] <bigcx2> libnjb5
[06:33] <dauoalagio> hello everyone
[06:33] <ir2> and also gui wireless ?
[06:33] <bigcx2> and njbtools
[06:33] <BigMonkey_> Hello, using Dapper here, want to delete a CalDAV calendar in the Calendar view in Evolution.  Right-click -> Delete does nothing.  I want to remove it entirely.  Help?
[06:33] <cstextiles> LjL, ok got it
[06:33] <BrendanM> GUI wireless you want either Wifi Radar
[06:33] <BrendanM> or NetworkManager
[06:33] <agliv5> nothlit thanks for your help and I'll get back if I'm having trouble ;)
[06:33] <ir2> Wifi radar brendam
[06:33] <LjL> cstextiles: if you want the script itself, i can put that online
[06:34] <BrendanM> what about it ir2? It's a GUI to manage your wireless
[06:34] <ir2> brendam do you know how i can change my power for wireless card ?
[06:35] <BrendanM> what do you mean power?
[06:35] <BrendanM> Like turn the card on or off?
[06:35] <ir2> no the signal i mean
[06:35] <tdn> My sound is not working. I have tried all combinations of the output plugs. I have tried different speakers/headphones. But there is no sound. What can be wrong? This is my sound card: 00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)
[06:35] <LjL> cstextiles: here's script http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3847/
[06:35] <pbureau> CyberCod, sorry mind got confused..lol...
[06:35] <ir2> is there any way we can boast our power cause this laptop when using windows np with the signal
[06:36] <jesper> variant: Is it possible to setup that chroot transparently to the users of the system..
[06:36] <pbureau> CyberCod, I meant system - admin - networking
[06:36] <newbie> used sudo make and now no package
[06:36] <newbie> help
[06:36] <n2diy_> I'm new to IM, I just registered a Jabber account, is my IM address no my-user-name@jabber.org?
[06:36] <Data_> tdn try to recompile alsa
[06:36] <Llais> ok, if noone knows why the installer isn't working can you at least direct me to someone who does?  I've triple checked the cd, the system is above minimun spec and yet I double click install, or try to run it from the system->administration menu and get nothing
[06:36] <tdn> Data_, recompile?
[06:36] <Humza> hi. my problem should be easy. when trying to install ubuntu 6.10 from a desktop cd, the screen freezes after about 1min (and alt+f1 or alt+f4 doesn't work). what's wrong? thanks!
[06:36] <nox-Hand> Anyone know how to install ONLY XFCE, not all the applications?
[06:36] <tdn> Data_, should I compile ALSA myself?
[06:37] <Data_> yes from sources
[06:37] <CyberCod> pbureau it has ppp configuration but when I set the device it says device not found
[06:37] <guaifi> hola
[06:37] <tdn> Data_, well... Why do I have to compile it myself? I have never needed to do that before.
[06:38] <newbie> help im trying to compile and it isnt working
[06:38] <Data_> it's just a suggestion tdn I had to do it for mine
[06:39] <CyberCod> it cannot autodetect it, and when I select one of the available choices, and try to activate it gives an error message
[06:39] <Llais> wow, so essentially what I'm getting out of all of this is that Ubuntu may not be the distro I'm looking for
[06:40] <cypherdelic> Llais, why not?
[06:41] <Llais> Well, if the folks at ubuntu can't get an installer to work right, or even start for that matter, why would I trust them to get the rest of the OS working properly?
[06:42] <erUSUL> Llais: have you tried the alternate cd?
[06:42] <Llais> the ONLY solution I've seen either here or the forums (now that they're back up anyway) for install doing nothing is Oh, go get the alternate CD
[06:42] <pbureau> CyberCod, look at the msg I sent you
[06:42] <pbureau> CyberCod, in private message
[06:42] <Llais> the bloody installer isn't even throwing an error
[06:43] <Llais> the laptop exceeds all the minimum specs required, and yet nothing
[06:43] <amonkey_> nick amonkey
[06:43] <robdeman> hi folks... what is a good PHP editor for Linux?
[06:44] <Llais> geez, I can't even get a frickin terminal to run off the PoS live cd
[06:44] <Azul> robdeman: vi
[06:44] <amonkey> anyone know how to get otr working with gaimbeta6?i was hoping for a deb cuz im havin trouble compiling it. a deb for beta5 would also prolly work.
[06:44] <segfault> Llais, why not take the advice u have gotten and get the alt install cd
[06:44] <Instabin> !grub
[06:44] <n2diy_> I'm new to IM, I just registered a Jabber account, is my IM address no my-user-name@jabber.org?
[06:44] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:44] <Azul> yeah, it sucks that you can't run without x in the installer
[06:44] <variant> anyone set up raided usb disks?
[06:44] <robdeman> Azul: that vi joke is getting old now
[06:45] <cstextile1> LjL: thanks for the script
[06:45] <cstextile1> LjL: do you have the database?
[06:45] <Azul> robdeman: slackware is old too, but it works
[06:45] <bigz> Azul?
[06:45] <bigz> where do i know your nick from?
[06:45] <Llais> segfault: because if they advertise a minimum system spec, the frickin install should work on anything that meets or exceeds that spec.  It's not like I'm trying to run it on a sparc or a 286
[06:46] <segfault> Llais, im not going to argue with u about it, u have been given a solution and sounds like u havent even tried it
[06:46] <robdeman> Azul: yup. not to say that it's the best solution in 2007
[06:47] <ladykeiden> Llais: a laptop is a strange bird with lotsa fancy hardware. mfgr's are always doing their own thing and breaking what works for most stuff. My guess is that your lappy has a gpu config that the installer doesnt understand. the worst part is that i bet u are not able to access anything in the bios that may help you past this... another lappy mfgr trick.
[06:47] <ir2> crapppp
[06:47] <ir2> this laptop kinnda old
[06:47] <ir2> man
[06:47] <LjL> cstextile1: no, only on the server which i can't access... the database can be generated from the "Packages" lists in repositories by the script itself, though - except you still need the schema (but it should be guessable from the queries that the script does)
[06:47] <sp|urr> whats the best way to restrict the bandwidth on an interface on edgy?
[06:47] <Azul> bigz: i don't know
[06:47] <LjL> cstextile1: you can probably get those Packages list from my site, but then they're the same as the ones you find on archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[06:47] <Azul> bigz: i took it from a video game called final fantasy 7
[06:47] <sp|urr> that is. to limit the bandwidth to, for example 2Mbps while it can go up to 10Mbps
[06:48] <Llais> I'm currently downloading the alt-install, I was just kinda hoping there was some kind of trick or workaround so I don't have to wait another 3 hours for the image to come down
[06:48] <dauoalagio> hello, i get this error whenever i try to start ubuntu 6.10 http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=2nq5bw6
[06:48] <BigMonkey_> Trying to delete a CalDAV calendar in the Calendar view in Evolution, having no luck.  Am I in the right place to ask about this?
[06:49] <ladykeiden> Llais: it does bite. what kinda lappy is it?
[06:49] <Azul> yeah, it sucks to have a separate text install cd
[06:49] <erUSUL> Llais: have you come here to do something about your problem or only to complain? if it is the former try launching the instaler from a terminal and see if it spits some error
[06:49] <Azul> i don't think it's that hard to have both on one
[06:49] <fatbrain> Hello, anyone that has gotten LVM to work with 6.10? (2.6.17-10 krnel)
[06:49] <ladykeiden> have u done any research on potential problems and solution with linux on that lappy?
[06:50] <bigz> Azul: maybe another server..
[06:50] <newbie> llais it took me 39 hours
[06:50] <Azul> bigz: it could be anywhere.. it's packed in here
[06:51] <priboy_> haha
[06:51] <iMag> Anyone might know why line in wouldn't be working? volume setting is up. works fine within windows
[06:51] <Llais> ladykeiden: It's a toshiba Satellite A40.  erUSUL: I can't get a terminal to work.  And I just said I'm downloading the alt-install.  I've been at this for a day and a half already, and I was going to attempt to use ubuntu to pitch linux to the company I'm the net admin for.  I had attempted to hook them with gentoo (the distro I'm familiar with) but they said it was too complex.  So Ubuntu is supposed to be the easiest to set up and use 
[06:52] <Llais> I've got a set of the LTS disks coming in the mail, so hopefully I can use them to demonstrate the ease of install, but for now I'll use the alt-install disks to get a demo up and running
[06:52] <_Freedom0_> hello ,i wnat someone can help me with  totoiseCvS please?
[06:53] <alex777> I'm having a problem with my Intel ICH5 sata controller
[06:53] <Creedence> hey guys, quick question. I installed the network-manager-gnome to use WPA but the old icon for network connections stays. Any easy way to remove it?
[06:53] <alex777> ubuntu sees the controller, but doesn't see the drive connected to it
[06:53] <ladykeiden> Llais: have u done any research on potential problems and solution with linux on that lappy?
[06:53] <NaPsTeR> im having trouble installing bluelink
[06:53] <NaPsTeR> the make command doesnt work
[06:53] <NaPsTeR> wat do i do?
[06:53] <_Freedom0_> LjL
[06:53] <ladykeiden> Llais: have u done any research on potential problems and solution with linux on that lappy?
[06:53] <segfault> NaPsTeR, install buidl-essentials pkg
[06:54] <Llais> ladykeiden: I've looked into it, I've had gentoo running on the laptop for about 2 years now, without a hitch
[06:54] <ladykeiden> Llais: any research on you lappy and linux?
[06:55] <erUSUL> Llais: so Apps>Accesories>Terminal does not work? not even Alt+F3 (or Alt+F2) ?
[06:55] <Llais> nope
[06:55] <Llais> none of it
[06:55] <Yancho> guys what group and username should i put in proftpd ? nobody and nobody ain't working
[06:55] <newbie> where can i get a complete list of terminal comands???
[06:56] <erUSUL> !cli > newbie
[06:56] <Llais> lol, it all depends on what you've got installed newbie
[06:57] <distro-tester> hello all
[06:57] <newbie> ok im trying to compile a package i used sudo make it did alot but no package
[06:57] <Dregin> I had problems with a 5-button intellimouse where the side buttons werent being recognized. In getting a fix for them (editing xorg.conf) "buttons "7"". am I right in thinking that this means Im making ubuntu think the mouse has 7 buttons, because left click isnt working for me in cedega based games....
[06:57] <derxob> newbie: hit [tab] [tab]  on console
[06:57] <alex777> so, ICH5 sata controller problem, waiting :)
[06:57] <ladykeiden> Llais: the first thing i did was search for problems with my lappy on linux, and found solution...then installed. U being a net admin, are smarter than that.
[06:57] <newbie> tab tab ???
[06:57] <derxob> newbie: yes.
[06:57] <derxob> newbie: tab, twice.
[06:57] <Dregin> sorry, should have said one of the lines I added was "button "7"".
[06:58] <derxob> newbie: then hit Y
[06:58] <erUSUL> !build | newbie
[06:58] <ubotu> newbie: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:58] <newbie> sudo make tab tab
[06:58] <Llais> ladykeiden: I've checked into any problems with running nix on this laptop, I had Gentoo (another linux distro) running perfectly fine on it for 2 years
[06:58] <derxob> newbie: no.
[06:58] <stoone> http://www.linuxgenuineadvantage.org/ :)
[06:58] <derxob> newbie: for a list of commands. tab, twice.
[06:58] <newbie> cool it will give the comands?
[06:59] <priboy> could anybody tell me how to change the default runlevel, my ubuntu has no /etc/inittab
[06:59] <distro-tester> hi all
[06:59] <derxob> newbie: see above "Compiling from source"
[06:59] <iMag> whom might I talk about getting a ban removed? I cannot connect from residence at my school due to the ip being banned
[06:59] <derxob> newbie: all I'm telling you is how to see a list of all commands.
[06:59] <derxob> iMag: banned from this channel or banned from the entire network?
[06:59] <ladykeiden> Liais: so may have found a problem with the Ubuntu installer...now will you be part of the solution and help our community along?
[06:59] <erUSUL> newbie: so you do not are familiar with coman line but are compiling from source....
[07:00] <Llais> ladykeiden: that is was the whole open source concept is all about.
[07:00] <ir2> hi guyshihi guys
[07:01] <ladykeiden> Llais: yes it is. please make sure you document your solution well so othere can save money on tylenol....lol
[07:01] <ir2> guys i got this error
[07:01] <ir2> when i apt-get update
[07:01] <ir2> W: GPG error: http://sg.archive.ubuntu.com edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B5
[07:01] <_Freedom0_> i need few sources on my ubuntu but as im newbie  and i vent a connextion i have to run TortoiseCVS so i didnt know how that work because each time asks me for a passwd?
[07:02] <ir2> in my /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:02] <Llais> ladykeiden: that is provided I can even track down what the source of the problem is
[07:02] <ir2> there is no sg.archive.ubuntu.com how do i remove it ?
[07:02] <paitart> hi. pls help me. i'm looking for a video converter to use on ubuntu LTS. any ideas?
[07:02] <ryanakca> where can I get an image for a boot floppy to boot the server install cd?
[07:03] <iMag> derxob: from the channel
[07:03] <dauoalagio> hello i get this error when i start ubuntu, any ideas? http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=2nq5bw6
[07:03] <alex777> so, ICH5 sata controller problem
[07:03] <_Freedom0_> i need few sources on my ubuntu but as im newbie  and i vent a connextion i have to run TortoiseCVS so i didnt know how that work because each time asks me for a passwd?
[07:03] <instabin> !grub
[07:03] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:04] <derxob> iMag: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-irc
[07:04] <iMag> derxob: thx
[07:05] <n2diy_> I'm new to IM, I just registered a Jabber account, is my IM address now my-user-name@jabber.org?
[07:05] <infu> hello
[07:05] <derxob> n2diy_: I believe you are correct.
[07:05] <ryanakca> where can I get an image for a boot floppy to boot the server install cd?
[07:06] <n2diy_> derxob: tnxs.
[07:06] <Shaffox> what's the best program to burn the iso file ? you recommend something?
[07:06] <Azul> burning iso files isn't a big issue
[07:06] <Humza> hello. trying to install ubuntu 6.10 with the desktop cd. about 1min after pressing "start or install ubuntu" the screen freezes and nothing works. what's wrong? thanks.
[07:07] <Azul> it's burning audio cds that i find difficult
[07:07] <Azul> i use gnome baker
[07:07] <Azul> Humza: just get the alternate install cd
[07:07] <derxob> I use K3b for iso, dvd, audio - works fine for me
[07:07] <Azul> the desktop install is so not good
[07:07] <kb3> pity mepis has such a small comunity it's really the best distro ever 1 whit ubuntu
[07:07] <Humza> Azul: to install with the command line?
[07:07] <Llais> Humza: there appears to be some sort of issue with the graphical installer on some systems, use the alternate CD, some of us are going to attempt to track down the issue
[07:08] <Azul> you can use k3b if you're not allergic to k stuff
[07:08] <Azul> Humza: yes
[07:08] <Humza> ok
[07:08] <Humza> thanks
[07:08] <jcz`> kb3, wats so good about mepis anyway?
[07:08] <derxob> Azul: true, but K (when set up properly, avoiding bloat) > G imo - esp. when it comes to a "work desktop"
[07:08] <piranesi> hey, can anyone tell me how I can move the display position? I have the ubuntu display moved some pixel right more than windows
[07:09] <spinster> !connection adsl
[07:09] <spinster> hmm
[07:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about connection adsl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:09] <ladykeiden> Llais: I googled your lappy and linux and see there may be issues with toshibas ACPI. It will work, but you have more work to do that most. Send a thank you note to toshiba. heres the google url I used - http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&hs=zT2&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=toshiba+satellite+a40+linux&spell=1
[07:09] <spinster> !ubuntu connect adsl
[07:09] <spinster> !pppoe
[07:09] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[07:09] <Crescendo> What are the options for setting up a grid server running Ubuntu?
[07:09] <jcz`> kb3, have u tried miros yet ?
[07:10] <kb3> every thuing jcz it's easy complite just see linux desktop
[07:10] <Azul> !adsl
[07:10] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[07:10] <kb3> no btw butmepis is over all for me and ubuntu as comunity
[07:10] <GNUtoo> is there a way to bootstrap ubuntu?
[07:10] <Llais> ladykeiden: thanks, though from what I can see there, it's gonna take less work than getting gentoo set up on it, or any OS on my old vaio
[07:11] <priboy_> whois
[07:11] <Khem> what is better gnomebaker or K3b
[07:11] <Pici> !best | Khem
[07:11] <ubotu> Khem: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[07:12] <ryanakca> where can I get an image for a boot floppy to boot the server install cd?
[07:12] <syzygyBSD> any tips for debugging why Ubuntu won't boot from CD on a athlon 64bit 2800, I have tried both the 64 edition then the 32 bit LTS version both fail at the same point
[07:12] <ryanakca> Khem: I personnally like K3B... haven't use gnomebaker though
[07:12] <Khem> ubotu: thank you I have used K3b in past and is ok but I wanna give gnomebaker a chance
[07:12] <Khem> ryanakca: me too will try now
[07:13] <ryanakca> Khem: try both out, and then select the one you like bbest
[07:13] <Khem> yep
[07:13] <ryanakca> Khem: btw, ubotu is a bot ( a type of program that outputs messages on IRC )
[07:13] <ryanakca> :)
[07:13] <Khem> ryanakca: haha man I am talking to robots
[07:13] <ryanakca> Khem: lol
[07:14] <Azul> !bootstarp
[07:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootstarp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:14] <Azul> !bootstrap
[07:14] <dyrne> Khem: hes not much on conversation since they wont let us train him directly anymore
[07:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootstrap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:14] <ladykeiden> Llais: ah yes...viao-the m$ of lappy's doing their own thing and making everyone else swallow it down!
[07:14] <freejack> Anyone know if there is a fix to the Monitor & Display power saving settings? (it defaults to 5 hours and sometimes 2 hours)
[07:14] <pbureau> freejack,  using gnome ?
[07:15] <freejack> kde
[07:15] <fatbrain> is there something wrong with the lvm2 package on the repositories?
[07:16] <Azul> how can i change the screen saver settings?
[07:16] <dauoalagio> i get an error when i try to start the gnome daemon
[07:16] <Pici> Azul: You can't
[07:16] <Azul> Pici: what the f?
[07:17] <Crescendo> What are the options for setting up a cluster server running Ubuntu?
[07:18] <Enselic`> Azul: System -> Settings -> Screensaver?
[07:18] <dyrne> Azul: if youre using the gnome-screensaver i dont know(im sure its in one of the menus). the xscreensaver command would be like 'xscreensaver-demo'
[07:18] <IcemanV9> Azul: system > pref > screensaver
[07:19] <Azul> Enselic`: that allows me to change the screen saver, not the settings for a particular screen saver
[07:19] <Yancho> i removed the clock from the taskbar is it possible that i get it back pls?
[07:19] <Azul> there is no settings button whatsoever
[07:19] <rhenus> hi
[07:19] <priboy> hi
[07:19] <rhenus> some german here?
[07:19] <Enselic`> Yancho: righclick and pick Add to panel
[07:19] <Pici> !de | rhenus
[07:19] <ubotu> rhenus: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:19] <IcemanV9> !de | rhenus
[07:19] <Jazzman101> rhenus: jo
[07:19] <Azul> Yancho: right click > add to panel;
[07:19] <Yancho> Enselic` where can i find the clock but ?
[07:19] <rhenus> hi
[07:20] <rhenus> habe mir ubuntu installiert
[07:20] <rhenus> besser als suse muss ich sagen
[07:20] <Azul> Yancho: open your eyes
[07:20] <Enselic`> Azul: oh, sorry don't know
[07:20] <Pici> !de > rhenus
[07:20] <Azul> what langauge is that
[07:20] <rhenus> !de
[07:20] <Azul> Enselic`: thanks ma man
[07:20] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:20] <Enselic`> Azul: never changes settings (don't know if its possible)
[07:20] <Pici> Azul: gnome-screensaver doesnt let you change the settings
[07:21] <Enselic`> Yancho: it's called Clock
[07:22] <paitart> hi. pls help me. i'm looking for a video converter to use on ubuntu LTS. any ideas?
[07:22] <Enselic`> paitart: ffmpeg?
[07:22] <ladykeiden> i'm installing ubuntu on a drive that is already partitioned. the / and /home partitions are reiserfs, and the installer says "no root file system" when I hit forward in the prepare mount points page, even though i have a 55gb reiserfs partition set as the / mount point. what do i do?
[07:22] <Yancho> oki Enselic` . .. and have a clue where it would be saved pls ?
[07:22] <Pici> paitart: menconder?
[07:22] <Jazzman101> avidemux
[07:22] <Pici> paitart: er mencoder I believe
[07:23] <_tarzan_> any other comand for display cpu speed besides  cat /proc/cpuinfo?
[07:23] <Enselic`> Yancho: I use swedish, so I cant give you the right name
[07:23] <teitunge> why would you need that _tarzan_ ?
[07:23] <Enselic`> Yancho: but it should be there
[07:23] <Enselic`> Yancho: did you really look through all?
[07:24] <ladykeiden> also, i am only telling the installer to format the swap partition
[07:24] <Enselic`> Yancho: look for Clock under Accesories
[07:24] <Yancho> it was in my taskbar but mistakenly i removed it
[07:24] <Yancho> ok lemme check
[07:24] <_tarzan_> teitunge: it shows a third of the cpu speed  > cpu MHz         : 599.586
[07:24] <teitunge> core duo cpu?
[07:24] <Enselic`> Yancho: have you rightclicked and picked "Add to panel"?
[07:25] <Enselic`> rightclick on a panel
[07:25] <teitunge> laptop _tarzan_ ?
[07:25] <nozey> can someone help to create a local repository? im having some problems
[07:25] <Enselic`> nozey: with svn?
[07:25] <paitart> Pici: how do i get mencoder
[07:25] <_tarzan_> teitunge:yes
[07:25] <Enselic`> paitart: sudo apt-get install mencoder
[07:26] <nozey> nop ... for apt. a simple one. i followed these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Personal?action=show&redirect=PersonalRepositories
[07:26] <Pici> !info mencoder
[07:26] <ubotu> mencoder: MPlayer's Movie Encoder. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre8-0ubuntu8 (edgy), package size 3171 kB, installed size 7956 kB
[07:26] <nozey> apt can find the Packages.gz, but he cant find the packages
[07:26] <_tarzan_> teitunge: is it a bug?
[07:26] <Enselic`> nozey: never done that unfortunately, so im not much of help there
[07:26] <nozey> no problem. ty for the try anyway :)
[07:28] <paitart> tnx Enselic
[07:28] <Instabi1> could some one give me there /boot/grub/menu.lst file contents
[07:28] <Yancho> ok Enselic` i found from where :) thanks
[07:28] <Enselic`> paitart: np
[07:28] <Enselic`> Yancho: np
[07:28] <Azul> Instabi1: why not go get it yourself
[07:28] <Instabi1> hello
[07:28] <Azul> na mean?
[07:28] <yellowdart> Hoosteen, any luck with your wifi?
[07:29] <Instabi1> azul: my grub did not install during the instlation im trying to fix it
[07:29] <Azul> what get somebody booted
[07:29] <Azul> reinstall
[07:29] <sivik> yellowdar: i'm helping him with it right now
[07:29] <Azul> it's time and effort-saving
[07:29] <Instabi1> azul: i have tryed reinstalling
[07:29] <Instabi1> azul: i final got grub installed i just have to get the menu right
[07:29] <Pici> Instabi1: someone elses grub contents are not going to help with your configuration
[07:29] <paitart> !palm
[07:29] <ubotu> A good guide for setting up Palm devices is at http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/PalmOS-HOWTO.html#PC-CONNECT-USB
[07:30] <Azul> Instabi1: switch distributions
[07:30] <Instabi1> pici : i can modify the contents
[07:30] <teitunge> _tarzan_: no, its called speedstep-technology :P your cpu is running in different levels, which depends on cpu load - in that way you save power :)
[07:30] <Instabi1> grub sees  hdba1 as hd1,1 correct?
[07:30] <yellowdart> sivik, cool.. he said ndiswrapper didnt work so i sent a link for how to do it using bcm43xx-fwcutter
[07:30] <Pici> Azul: Thats not really constructive advice
[07:30] <Azul> hdba1?
[07:30] <Instabi1> hdb1
[07:31] <Instabi1> ubuntu root is on hdb1
[07:31] <Instabi1> windows is on hda1
[07:31] <Instabi1> swap is hdb5
[07:31] <sivik> yellowdar: thats what i'm walking him through
[07:31] <Llais> Instabi1 you are correct, hdb1 is hd1,1
[07:32] <Azul> there is a command from within grub that'll tell you that, i can't remember what it was
[07:32] <Instabi1> could i see the contents of some ones /boot/grub/menu.lst so i can correct my file
[07:32] <NaPsTeR> does anyone here use bluelink?
[07:32] <dauoalagio> bcm43xx-cutter never worked for me, sivik.  what wireless card do you have
[07:32] <agliv5> is it posible to start samba from a livecd to share files on my harddrive?
[07:32] <sivik> 4318
[07:32] <Enselic`> agliv5: should be
[07:32] <dauoalagio> sivik, i have a 4311 and it was a ***** to get going
[07:32] <yellowdart> sivik, ok.. if you're having trouble modprobing just make sure to take bcm43xx off the blacklist.. (since the ndiswrapper needed it on the blacklist)
[07:32] <dauoalagio> but ndiswrapper is how it worked
[07:32] <Enselic`> agliv5: never tried, but I see no reason why it should not work
[07:33] <sivik> yellowdart: ndiswrapper has never worked for me either, but the firmware works for me
[07:33] <agliv5> I think it should...
[07:33] <Instabi1> here is what i have
[07:33] <Instabi1> title Ubuntu, 2.6.17-10-generic
[07:33] <Instabi1> root (hd1,1)
[07:33] <Instabi1> initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.17-10-generic
[07:33] <Instabi1> kernel /boot/vmlinuz=2.6.17-10-generic
[07:33] <Raptormn> i get this error on install at the loading of the kernal
[07:33] <Raptormn> [17179571.860000] PCI: Error while updating region 0000:03:00.0/0 (0000c00 !=00000000)
[07:33] <Raptormn> 
[07:33] <Raptormn> 
[07:33] <Raptormn> [17179571.860000] PCI: Error while updating region 0000:03:00.0/2 (0000c00 !=00000000)
[07:33] <Raptormn> any ideas?
[07:33] <Instabi1> !pastebin
[07:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:33] <yellowdart> sivik, i just set up my 4306 with ndiswrapper.. the fw "kinda" worked.. but was filling my logs with errors
[07:34] <NaPsTeR> !ubotu bluelink
[07:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bluelink - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:34] <dauoalagio> sivik, here's ubuntu's thing for 43xx cutter https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Edgy?highlight=%2843xx%29
[07:34] <sivik> yellowdart, i have a 4318, not sure about the 4306
[07:35] <yellowdart> sivik, either way.. they're both a pain to set up.. :)
[07:35] <sivik> yellowdart, if you need help with the bcm card, go to #bcm-users
[07:35] <sivik> yellowdart: oh well
[07:35] <Instabi1> pici here is whats in my menu.lst http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3852/
[07:36] <priboy> who
[07:36] <Instabi1> hello
[07:36] <Herpes> hey
[07:36] <instabin> thats better
[07:36] <dimeo> happy friday all
[07:36] <Herpes> i need a wifi manager, any body that knows a good one?
[07:36] <yellowdart> sivik, i got it working great with ndiswrapper.. and network-manager.. dont think i'll be doing anything else with it.. until feisty of course. hehe. thanks for the channel though
[07:36] <priboy> happy
[07:36] <baegle__> hey, is there an ubuntu way to upgrade to the 2.6.18 kernel?
[07:37] <dimeo> network manager applet is good herpes
[07:37] <Herpes> baegle__:  compile it?
[07:37] <instabin> Could some one plez give me the contents of there /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:37] <Azul> baegle__: install 6.1
[07:37] <sivik> yellowdart, yw, i have never had any luck with ndiswrapper, and this works nicely
[07:37] <agliv5> is it possible to start samba with a different conf file than in /etc/samba ?
[07:37] <Creedence> hey guys, quick question. I installed the network-manager-gnome to use WPA but the old icon for network connections stays. Any easy way to remove it?
[07:37] <dimeo> sivik.. what are u using instead of ndiswrapper?
[07:37] <Azul> don't try modifying ubuntu, that thang is very fragile
[07:38] <Creedence> nevermind that, I hit the wrong button :P
[07:38] <sivik> dimeo: the firmware and running it natively
[07:38] <instabin> Azul, Pici, anyone?
[07:38] <dimeo> himm u used fwcutter?
[07:38] <yellowdart> sivik, i'm not telling you you're wrong.. i got the firmware way to work as well.. just saying that for ME ndiswrapper seems to throw less (read: no) errors
[07:38] <priboy> how can i disable the msg that someone join or someone quit
[07:38] <Azul> !pastbin
[07:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:38] <Azul> !pastebin
[07:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:38] <Creedence> !emerald
[07:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emerald - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:39] <dimeo> no drivers needed?  I wonder if that would fix my issue where I can't do monitor mode with ndiswrapper.... monitor mode is too good to miss out on
[07:39] <Herpes> dimeo: sounds good, dows the pptp work with M$ crapified pptp?
[07:39] <instabin> azule: i did past mine there
[07:39] <sivik> fwcutter with the firmware in the /lib/firmware folder and then ran the modprobe bcm43xx and it works natively
[07:39] <instabin> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3852/
[07:39] <instabin> azul: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3852/
[07:39] <Azul> instabin: you want mine, right?
[07:39] <instabin> azul: yes
[07:39] <dimeo> sivik which broadcom card u using?
[07:39] <sivik> 4318
[07:40] <Azul> instabin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3854/
[07:40] <jamaman> can anyone help me get multicast to survive reboots on my wireless interface?
[07:40] <dauoalagio> i get this error whenever  i try start gnome, gnome still works but it's very different than what it should be http://rafb.net/p/T73ynE41.html
[07:41] <instabin> Azul: thank you very much
[07:41] <sivik> dimeo: what card you using?
[07:41] <Azul> instabin: i gotch yo back man
[07:42] <yellowdart> Creedence, are you trying to set up beryl by chance? (noticed your post on emerald)
[07:42] <coobra> :l
[07:42] <dimeo> broadcom 4311.. but it's a dell laptop: they called it the 'dell' mini wifi card
[07:42] <dauoalagio> i have a 4311
[07:42] <dauoalagio> it's working right now :)
[07:42] <Creedence> yellowdart - yeah. I have it set up but I am looking for a good place to download themes
[07:42] <Creedence> yellowdart - and BTW... it's friggen nice!!!
[07:42] <dimeo> dauoalagio: using fwcutter?
[07:43] <yellowdart> Creedence, ahh.. i installed it last week.. it rocks
[07:43] <dauoalagio> dimeo, no
[07:43] <dauoalagio> i will show you how i did it, though
[07:43] <Creedence> yellowdart - so true. did you find any other themes? they aren't bad but I am looking for more just to see.
[07:43] <dimeo> I'm using ndiswrapper rite now.. it's fine.. but no monitor mode =(
[07:43] <dauoalagio> dimeo, what do tyou mean
[07:43] <dauoalagio> you*
[07:44] <dimeo> no packet sniffing... fun stuff
[07:44] <yomm> How can I create a fresh ubuntu gnome session ( as in default ) ??
[07:44] <dauoalagio> oh i don't care about that
[07:44] <yellowdart> Creedence, i just went into the theme manager and pushed the "fetch themes" in the repositories tab
[07:44] <yellowdart> Creedence, havent done any further digging yet
[07:44] <Creedence> yellowdart - I got those already. Was looking maybe for a website
[07:44] <Creedence> yellowdart - cool...
[07:44] <Creedence> yellowdart - I will let you know what I find :)
[07:45] <savagefluff> quick .. tell me if i should go with 6.10 or 6.06.. whichone has less problems.??
[07:45] <yellowdart> Creedence, cool.. i'll tell you if i find anything as well
[07:45] <Beverage> 6.10
[07:45] <adaran> can anyone tell me how to get the pid of a process i just started?
[07:45] <instabin> !grub
[07:45] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:45] <yellowdart> adaran, top
[07:46] <Beverage> What is the command to give myself access to use a folder?
[07:46] <Pici> adaran: either pidof <process> or ps aux | grep <process>
[07:46] <mzanfardino> what is the command to run a gui app with su privilages?
[07:46] <dauoalagio> mzanfardino, open a terminal and type "su programname"
[07:46] <yomm> mzanfardino : gksu
[07:47] <thomrei> mzanfardino: gksu
[07:47] <dauoalagio> or gksu
[07:47] <adaran> yellow, Pici thanks, but i was thinking bash scripting. $! did the trick, i mistyped $? though and spent 15 minutes figuring out why it's not working
[07:47] <mzanfardino> yomm: thank you
[07:47] <yomm> dau : gksu is better for graphical apps
[07:47] <dauoalagio> oh
[07:47] <dauoalagio> well whatever.
[07:47] <dauoalagio> anybody know how to fix this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4311_rev_01_%28ndiswrapper%29?highlight=%284311%29#head-f81347abfd1a9542276e210460e6ecd5fb49fd1a
[07:48] <dauoalagio> no not that
[07:48] <dauoalagio> sorry
[07:48] <dauoalagio> anyone know how to fix this http://rafb.net/p/T73ynE41.html
[07:48] <Beverage> I want to access my /var/www/ but permission is denied how do I unlock it?
[07:48] <sivik> you can sudo chown user:group (that you want to access it) -R /var/www
[07:48] <yellowdart> Creedence, check this: http://www.gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=103
[07:49] <aalhamad> hi all.. is there a good package for animation??
[07:49] <Creedence> yellowdart - I just was at the same place :)
[07:49] <yellowdart> Creedence, nice
[07:49] <Creedence> yellowdart or should I say http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=48621
[07:49] <Sean_Heron> hi
[07:50] <Sean_Heron> Is this the right place to ask if I have some bad problems with Kubuntu ?
[07:50] <noneee> wpa criptografy depends on the hardware?
[07:50] <willys_fueguino> Sean_Heron: you can use #kubuntu
[07:51] <Sean_Heron> ah, no, I guess #kubuntu ...
[07:51] <hugorolla> I need help with my sbc dsl yahoo
[07:51] <willys_fueguino> :-
[07:51] <hugorolla> I have it on a router right now but I want it to be direct
[07:51] <Sean_Heron> bye :)
[07:51] <dauoalagio> what does this mean "The name org.gnome.SettingsDaemon was not provided by any .service files"
[07:51] <paitart> how do i easily upgrade from dapper to edgy? is it ok to do that?
[07:52] <Pici> !upgrade | paitart
[07:52] <apokryphos> paitart: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[07:52] <ubotu> paitart: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:52] <ryanakca> where can I get a .img (or some other form of image) for a boot floppy to boot the server install cd?
[07:52] <baegle__> If I complile my own 2.6.18 kernel, then would I also need to compile my own e1000 and ati modules?
[07:54] <Pici> ryanakca: I believe, not 100% sure because I havent looked, that the a boot floppy image might be on the cd itself
[07:54] <MojoWork> hmph. aptitude really is better than plain apt
[07:54] <ryanakca> Pici: kk, thanks :)
[07:54] <MojoWork> at least at solving depenency problems and such
[07:54] <Crescendo> MojoWork, I often run aptitude when necessary.  Maybe occasionally on maintenance
[07:54] <Pici> ryanakca: at least thats what other distros do, I havent had to look on the ubuntu cd
[07:54] <MojoWork> apt-get dist-upgrade was leaving 32 packages held back. aptitude -R was able to figure out what to do
[07:55] <Lionheart> Does anyone know where win applications are installed to on WINE?
[07:55] <MojoWork> Lionheart: depends on your config, but usually into .c_drive or some such
[07:55] <MojoWork> Lionheart: in your home dir
[07:55] <tdn> I get this error when trying to install flashplugin-nonfree: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/p/?paste=359
[07:55] <Beverage> Sivik, thanks ^^ that worked
[07:55] <paitart> geez... i tried following the directions to get my Palm TX working with my Ubuntu 6.06 but can't make it happen. any help?
[07:55] <willys_fueguino> Lionheart: could be .cxoffice or .transgaming_dirve to
[07:56] <[^Twen^] > Lionheart: I'm sure that there is some kind of documentation for WINE :)
[07:56] <Lionheart> where would that be located? in the root dir?
[07:56] <Lionheart> yeah sorry :P
[07:56] <MojoWork> in your home dir
[07:56] <njero> hi all what is the syntax for a symlink?
[07:56] <MojoWork> Lionheart: check your wine config file
[07:57] <MojoWork> ~/.wine/config
[07:57] <Khem> njero: man ln
[07:57] <IcemanV9> Lionheart: or .wine (default)
[07:57] <Pici> njero: ln -s /target/file /link/file
[07:57] <jriffle> how do i access an ntfs partition from feisty, with edgy i used to just click on places, computer, then the drive, now it says 'can not mount voulme'
[07:57] <njero> Kem, thanks... google wasn't helping
[07:57] <paitart> geez... i tried following the directions to get my Palm TX working with my Ubuntu 6.06 but can't make it happen. any help?
[07:57] <njero> Pici: thanks
[07:57] <MojoWork> Lionheart: aha. ~/.wine/fack_windows/
[07:57] <MojoWork> er...fake even
[07:57] <Lionheart> lol :)
[07:57] <MojoWork> but check your config to be sure
[07:58] <MojoWork> Lionheart: i shit you not
[07:58] <MojoWork> ;)
[07:58] <_tarzan_> teitunge: thanks
[07:58] <rfschmid> I'm having trouble using a flash drive on ubuntu edgy.
[07:58] <eXistenZ> How can I change group ownerships?
[07:58] <rfschmid> It appears under Computer, but when I try to open it it doesn't work.
[07:58] <IcemanV9> eXistenZ: chown
[07:59] <abhinay> can i update Feisty herd2 to Feisty herd3 ?
[07:59] <IcemanV9> !ntfs | jriffle
[07:59] <ubotu> jriffle: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[07:59] <stephans> is there a tool like sax in ubuntu?
[08:00] <stephans> to configure dual head xorg?
[08:00] <stephans>  I want to configure X-Windows...
[08:00] <anonymeeee> any advice on burning dvd's?
[08:00] <stephans> dpkg-reconfigure is too basic
[08:00] <darkempress> how do i find out what driver i need to get the kernel to load for a cdrw? i just replaced the ide cable on a cdrw and it's still not even saying it's even there...
[08:00] <stephans> There is no way to configure Xwindows is there... ? only to hack the config file?
[08:00] <MojoWork> odd...i don't see a -686 package for 2.6.17-10
[08:00] <stephans> How can I say extend my desktop on to screen?
[08:01] <darkempress> anonymeeee, doing it in a microwave is pretty to watch, but you'll probably ruin the microwave >.>
[08:01] <stephans> You just cant do that in Ubuntu can you?
[08:01] <Pici> stephans: have you looked at xinerama
[08:01] <dyrne>  !generic
[08:01] <ubotu> Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[08:01] <Asc> stephans: I've not heard of any tool like that for Ubuntu.  There's plenty of guides for editing the config file though.
[08:01] <IcemanV9> MojoWork: -generic does have it; it automatically use -386 or -686 depends on your CPU
[08:01] <stephans> Pici that library is installed...
[08:01] <MojoWork> IcemanV9: ah
[08:01] <MojoWork> welp, wish me luck
[08:01] <Asc> stephans: Heh, except maybe xinerama, which I didn't try because it doesn't do what I wanted it to. :p
[08:02] <MojoWork> with fingers crossed
[08:02] <stephans> Asc, Pici hmmm....
[08:02] <Pici> !xinerama | stephans have you looked at this guide:
[08:02] <ubotu> stephans have you looked at this guide:: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[08:02] <IcemanV9> !dual head | stephans
[08:02] <ubotu> stephans: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[08:04] <some-beast-from-> hey everybody
[08:04] <Asc> g'day
[08:05] <Pici> !hi
[08:05] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:05] <some-beast-from-> so....talking about support
[08:05] <aleksanteri> please? how to make the panels respond again?
[08:05] <PPP111> hi
[08:05] <Lionheart> Hmmm. I can go to WINE via the Terminal but I can't see it in the File Browser. What's that all about?
[08:05] <Lionheart> I'm in the correct dir too
[08:05] <some-beast-from-> what panels is aleksanteri talking about?
[08:05] <PPP111> i've just burned ubuntu iso file
[08:05] <aleksanteri> the taskbar
[08:05] <PPP111> and booted from it
[08:05] <exwhyzed> My integrated wireless card was not installed when I initially installed, so I downloaded and installed linux-restricted-modeules and madwifi-tools from synaptic package manger, but the card is still not recognized. Any ideas?
[08:06] <some-beast-from-> hummm...you can restart the whole graphics by pressing strg-alt and backspace together
[08:06] <aleksanteri> i have tried restarting X
[08:06] <some-beast-from-> aleksanteri: but your data will be lost
[08:06] <jaycie> im trying to find out if ubuntu has ftp client GUI in it if someone can help me.. thanks
[08:06] <some-beast-from-> aleksanteri: oh...allright.
[08:06] <PPP111> then i clicked start or install ubuntu, then i get the ubuntu logo, and now just a black screen with a underscore in my left top corner, and it won't change :s is this normal ?
[08:07] <shatrat> jaycie, well, most web browsers can connect to FTP servers.
[08:07] <darkempress> ok, just hooked in new cdrw, how do i get ubuntu to recognise it?
[08:07] <IcemanV9> aleksanteri: in terminal, type killall gnome-panel
[08:07] <aleksanteri> tried
[08:07] <some-beast-from-> PPP111: this can happen, if you run into problems, yes
[08:07] <PPP111> so i just have to wait very long ?
[08:08] <IcemanV9> aleksanteri: so it is still not responding?
[08:08] <some-beast-from-> PPP111: how long did you wait?
[08:08] <aleksanteri> IcemanV9: nope
[08:08] <PPP111> 15 minutes or so
[08:08] <Asc> PPP111: it sounds like X died.
[08:08] <some-beast-from-> PPP111: thats far enough.
[08:08] <PPP111> wwhat do do now ?
[08:08] <some-beast-from-> PPP111: Like Asc said: it seems to have to do with your graphical user interface
[08:09] <jaycie> shackok im trying to move my files from my existing host to my ubuntu computer and someone said that mite be how
[08:09] <some-beast-from-> PPP1: have you tried selecting the save mode?
[08:09] <Asc> PPP111: It won't help much, but there's terminals under control-alt-F1-F6.  You could do 'sudo gdm' in one of those to restart the display....
[08:09] <IcemanV9> aleksanteri: looks like ctrl+alt+backspace is the option; be sure to save data 1st
[08:09] <aleksanteri> IcemanV9: tried :P
[08:10] <Asc> Y'know, I don't think PPP111 is the only one that's been having such trouble with the livecd installer
[08:10] <PPP111> oh! i can type !
[08:10] <PPP111> but what to type :s
[08:10] <IcemanV9> aleksanteri: :(
[08:10] <aleksanteri> great :|
[08:10] <some-beast-from-> Asc: you're damn right
[08:10] <aleksanteri> i'll try rebooting X once more
[08:11] <Asc> PPP111:
[08:11] <Asc> 'sudo gdm' is a good option
[08:11] <savagefluff> i shared a folder in ubuntu..and i want to be able to open it in my windows .. i see the ubuntu laptop but i am not able to open it cause it asks for a user and password. I type my ubuntu login name and password and it doesnt let me in.. can someone tell me what i am doing wrong
[08:11] <PPP111> wtf, my keyboard changed to qwerty
[08:12] <Asc> PPP111: Yeah, probably.  Should be configurable under system->preferences
[08:12] <some-beast-from-> PPP111: thats normal until you choose somethin else
[08:12] <PPP111> i don't get it :s
[08:12] <Asc> Um, with the livecd, are the contents of the squashfs file identical to the contents of a default install?
[08:12] <dyrne>  savagefluff smbpasswd
[08:12] <PPP111> i don't know
[08:13] <cstextile1> Is there any web utility by which i can get all the dependency files list which i can download if i want to download any package?
[08:13] <Asc> If they are, we could work out a way to install from a livecd when this happens
[08:13] <savagefluff> smbpasswd.. ok. i have not set that cause i have not seen it.. where would i look for that
[08:13] <PPP111> i just downloaded the .iso file from the site, burned it to cd, booted from cd, pressed 'start or install ubuntu', i got a loadingscreen with ubuntulogo, and now a whole black screen
[08:13] <shatrat> PPP111, try starting with safe graphics settings
[08:14] <PPP111> ok, i'll reboot
[08:14] <evian> Everytime I want to save a doc in Ubuntu, I get the save panel but I have to click "browse for other folders" before I can start navigating to the folder I want. Is there a way to have the full panel just show up in the first place?
[08:14] <aalhamad> hi all .. when i open a image on gimp and i wan to do a color gradient it doesn;t allow me.. how can i fix it ? plz help
[08:14] <cypherdelic> can somebody help me setting up my ipw3945 intel WLAN adapter?
[08:14] <Asc> PPP111: I usually recommend using the 'alternate' install CD because this sort of thing doesn't go wrong.
[08:15] <Lattyware> I have a problem with panels. A panel with a draw on doesn't work when switched from one monitor to the other, the draw opens on the far right side of the origonal monitor, instead of above.
[08:15] <MojoWork> ahhhh
[08:15] <Ralith> hey, I have Flash 9 installed, and when I try to view some flash stuff in firefox I get "movie not loaded" in the right click menu, and an emtpy white box instead of the flash app
[08:15] <Lattyware> Anyone have a solution?
[08:15] <MojoWork> unfortunately chbg appears to be hosed
[08:15] <some-beast-from-> evian: this is the default behaviour and I don't know a solution on this yet
[08:15] <dyrne> savagefluff: i dont know samba really but there is a smbpasswd command im assuming its similar to setting a password for say vnc. youd run it from terminal to set a password
[08:15] <cypherdelic> can somebody help me setting up my ipw3945 intel WLAN adapter? please i cant get my wlanadapter working.
[08:16] <some-beast-from-> Ralith: how did you install flash9?
[08:17] <evian> some-beast-from-: ok thanks for responding anyways
[08:17] <some-beast-from-> evian: I'm just googling around.
[08:17] <IcemanV9> sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree
[08:17] <preaction> dyrne: it's more similar to setting a normal system password, read `man smbpasswd`
[08:17] <some-beast-from-> evian: there could be a way....
[08:18] <Pici> cypherdelic: What seems to be the issue?
[08:18] <cypherdelic> Pici, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3858/
[08:18] <Ralith> some-beast-from-, with apt-get.
[08:18] <evian> some-beast-from-: there should be a way :) it gets a little annoying after 1000 times...
[08:18] <chalewa4bambu> is there an extra package that i have to install to get the fglrx driver to work on edgy?
[08:18] <grndslm> why would cat /proc/cpuinfo say that my cpu is 1250MHz when I know it should be more than that????
[08:19] <Pici> cypherdelic: Are you running edgy or dapper?
[08:19] <aleksanteri> Got new info ::)
[08:19] <aleksanteri> First of all... it is a crash that happens when starting up GNOME
[08:19] <some-beast-from-> ralith: did you restart firefox?
[08:19] <PMantis> Anyone know how to get `stat filename` to give me how long ago (in seconds or minutes) a file was modified, not the timestanp?
[08:20] <some-beast-from-> evian: you can always use KDE - it behaves more like windows
[08:20] <cypherdelic> Pici, edgy amd64. wlan worked, on this system, but i tried to compile newest ieee
[08:20] <aleksanteri> then I believe it's got something to do with that broken beryl i just uninstalled. When I uninstalled beryl, the panels don't show up at all...
[08:20] <cypherdelic> Pici, now no wlan working anmore
[08:20] <teckfatt> hello, anyone know how or what is the command to check the alsa driver version ? thankyou
[08:21] <yellowdart> does anybody know how to make my wireless card show up as wlan0 rather than eth1
[08:21] <grndslm> why would cat /proc/cpuinfo say that my cpu is 1250MHz when I know it should be more than that????
[08:21] <aleksanteri> Also any programs can't be shown after i uninstalled beryl... :|
[08:21] <Ralith> some-beast-from-, several hundred times.
[08:21] <Ralith> some-beast-from-, it's been installed for months :P
[08:21] <aleksanteri> So now I'm on KDE and gonna reinstall gnome
[08:21] <Pici> cypherdelic: Are you running the 64bit kernel or generic?
[08:21] <some-beast-from-> ralith: hmpf
[08:22] <cypherdelic> Pici, how to find out??
[08:22] <PPP111> oke, i've just clicked the safe graphics settings
[08:22] <PPP111> well, i have 5 minutes ago
[08:22] <evian> some web page says I'd have to patch Gtk to get the save folder expanded by default, haha that's dumb
[08:22] <evian> maybe time to try Kubuntu ?
[08:23] <Pici> cypherdelic: uname -a
[08:23] <dyrne> yellowdart: sudo gedit /etc/iftab
[08:23] <some-beast-from-> evian: thats just what I read
[08:23] <aleksanteri> wow this will be a big process...
[08:23] <cypherdelic> Linux HackSAN 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Tue Dec 5 21:16:35 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[08:23] <cypherdelic> thats dumb
[08:23] <Richardson183> I'm bored, does anybody need any help?
[08:23] <cypherdelic> this is not the 64bit kernel right?
[08:23] <ubuntu_> hello
[08:23] <some-beast-from-> evian: if you want to try something completly different - Kubuntu is fine
[08:23] <cypherdelic> Pici, is that 64bit or generic?
[08:23] <Pici> cypherdelic: Nope, generic
[08:23] <evian> ok I will try Kubuntu for Kicks :)
[08:24] <some-beast-from-> evian: ok
[08:24] <cypherdelic> Pici, i thought i was using 64bit
[08:24] <yellowdart> dyrne, thanks.. i'll try it out
[08:24] <cypherdelic> Pici, how to switch to the 64bit kernel
[08:25] <dyrne> Richardson183: linux port of utorrent would be nice. thx
[08:25] <PPP111> how, i get some code now
[08:25] <Richardson183> well
[08:25] <jhaitas> hello
[08:25] <Pici> cypherdelic: I'm not sure how to switch.  I know theres an AMD64 iso though
[08:25] <cypherdelic> Pici: where is the difference between 64bit-generic and 64bit-64bit kernel?
[08:25] <jhaitas> anyone have experience with printers???
[08:25] <schemmannu> I am a new ubuntu fan. a complete ubuntu virgin. Who can help me with timeout?
[08:26] <cypherdelic> i installed from the amd64 iso
[08:26] <PPP111> vsf: bremse: trying to free free buffer,that's oke ?
[08:26] <jhaitas> troubleshooting printers that is
[08:26] <Pici> cypherdelic: really? hm
[08:26] <evian> schemmannu: what timeout?
[08:26] <cypherdelic> its x68_64
[08:26] <cypherdelic> Linux HacLinux HackSAN 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Tue Dec 5 21:16:35 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[08:26] <cypherdelic> kSAN 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Tue Dec 5 21:16:35 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[08:26] <Richardson183> hold on and i will surf a bit and see if I can come up with something.
[08:26] <Richardson183> utorrent.com
[08:26] <PPP111> euh, i get error now :s :
[08:26] <Pici> cypherdelic: I might be wrong, hold on
[08:26] <Richardson183> no wait
[08:27] <PPP111> squashfs error, 3 times
[08:27] <cypherdelic> Pici, i dont mean to be mean, but i hope so
[08:27] <cypherdelic> :)
[08:27] <jhaitas> printer troubleshooting??
[08:27] <jhaitas> anyone?
[08:27] <cypherdelic> because i can only use 64bit repos i guess its 64bit kernel
[08:27] <grndslm> why would cat /proc/cpuinfo say that my cpu is 1250MHz when I know it should be more than that????
[08:27] <cypherdelic> Pici, so how to fix my wlan problem?
[08:27] <Richardson183> Dyrne:> install wine and install Utorrent for windows and execute it from there
[08:28] <PPP111> does anyone has a solution for my 3 errors ?? -> 'squashfs error' ????????????
[08:28] <Richardson183> Dyrne:> or use another bittorrent client (ex. Ktorrent, Bittornado, etc.)
[08:28] <ladykeiden> what tool do i use to setup my video card when it isn't configured properly?
[08:28] <dyrne> Richardson183: sorry no. get coding
[08:29] <Richardson183> Dyrne:>crap can't right now I'm school on a crappy windows xp computer, I can't do jack until i get home
[08:29] <Richardson183> i'm at school
[08:29] <Richardson183> sorry
[08:30] <dignomad> Oh boy, don't I feel silly.  Ok.  I downloaded the x86 of Dapper to install on my other computer, and it didn't have enough memory.  I wasn't thinking and decided to try Ubuntu out on my primary computer, which is an amd64 architecture.  I just realized this after two days of having Ubuntu installed.  So if I could get some help, I need to figure out how to get it uninstalled and everything so i can stick the correct version o
[08:30] <Pici> cypherdelic: well, If I remember correctly, the ieee files dont get put into the correct kernel directory, since ubuntu has a slightly different directory structure
[08:30] <Richardson183> Dyrne:>no can do right now I'm at school
[08:30] <TLE> Does anybody have a hint for how to make DVD subtitles scale properly with mplayer. It seems as if they scale with the picture and so on widescreen titles they are much too short
[08:31] <cypherdelic> do you know what to do to get the ipw3945 module loaded? Pici
[08:31] <TLE> or small
[08:31] <yellowdart> dyrne, works great.. thanks.. i needed it because nm-applet wouldnt see the device as wireless if it was eth1 rather than wlan0
[08:31] <Ralith> dignomad, there's nothing wrong with having x86 ubuntu on yer amd64
[08:31] <Richardson183> hey anybody out there that can come up with a solution to Dynre
[08:31] <Richardson183> hey anybody out there that can come up with a solution to Dynre's problem?
[08:31] <NaPsTeR> does any1 use bluelink?
[08:32] <Pici> cypherdelic: I dont have those instructions anymore, but you could try doing sudo / | grep iee80211 and move (or copy) the files that match your error into the directory that the error specifies, thats what I had to do back when ubuntu didnt offer ipw2200 drivers
[08:32] <Ralith> dignomad, but if you want to get the 64bit one, just back up all your data, burn a 64 bit disk, and reinstall with it. Let it wipe the whole hdd and you'll be good
[08:32] <MojoWork> dignomad: got anything on there you need to save?
[08:32] <dignomad> Ok, so just wiping the drive would be fine?  Does that do anything nasty to the GRUB bootloader or whatever?
[08:32] <ladykeiden>  what tool do i use to setup my video card when it isn't configured properly?
[08:32] <dignomad> No, nothing really I need to save.
[08:32] <Richardson183> hey anybody out there that can come up with a solution to Dynre's problem?
[08:32] <MojoWork> dignomad: if not just boot from the right install cd and repartition
[08:33] <Ralith> dignomad, a new install will set up a new grub too, so it doesn't really matter
[08:33] <IcemanV9> Richardson183: dyrne does not have a problem .. you said that you're bored, so therefore dyrne just gave you a "job" to port utorrent for linux :)
[08:33] <dignomad> Ok, thanks!  That's all I needed to know.  :)
[08:33] <cypherdelic> Pici:  sudo / | grep iee80211
[08:33] <aleksanteri> btw what's the name of the gnome package to "get it all?"
[08:33] <Richardson183> icemanv9:> sorry just being at school can bore me to death
[08:34] <cypherdelic> Pici: bash: /: is a directory
[08:34] <Ralith> dignomad, keep in mind that a 64 bit system won't have /quite/ as many compatible apps
[08:34] <Richardson183> icemanv9:> uhhhh.....
[08:34] <eXistenZ> How can I reload the /etc/fstab file?
[08:34] <Ralith> eXistenZ, reload?
[08:34] <aleksanteri> gnome-desktop-enviroment doesn't seem to work :|
[08:34] <eXistenZ> Ralith, I changed something in the file.
[08:34] <Richardson183> icemanv9:> can't code, can't really do anything until i get home
[08:34] <Ralith> eXistenZ, what did you change?
[08:34] <Random_Transit> hey, does anyone know of any way to get avant to work without needing XGL?
[08:34] <IcemanV9> aleksanteri: ubuntu-desktop
[08:34] <Richardson183> icemanv9:> boring!
[08:34] <Pici> cypherdelic: sorry, I meant sudo find / | grep ieee80211
[08:34] <grndslm> would you recommend recompiling the 2.6.17 source or downloading the source from kernel.org?  and it wouldn't be a good idea to use 2.6.19, right??
[08:34] <aleksanteri> ok
[08:34] <eXistenZ> Ralith, I added an entry
[08:34] <eXistenZ> a mountpoint
[08:35] <Random_Transit> !avant
[08:35] <Ralith> eXistenZ, mount it manually, or reboot, depending on how lazy you are.
[08:35] <aleksanteri> it can't find "gnome-desktop"
[08:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avant - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:35] <IcemanV9> aleksanteri: ubuntu not gnome :)
[08:35] <Ralith> grndslm, I'd recommend sticking with the packaged kernels distributed by ubuntu :P
[08:35] <aleksanteri> oh :P
[08:36] <Richardson183> i got a question, do anybody out there use "alltray" for Ubuntu/Kubunut Linux?
[08:36] <Richardson183> can't spell sorry
[08:36] <Richardson183> anyone?
[08:37] <tzbishop> Hey guys. I don't like  to cause mess or flames....but speaking about perfomance which WM is faster? GNOME or KDE?
[08:37] <Richardson183> i got a question, do anybody out there use "alltray" for Ubuntu/Kubunut Linux?
[08:37] <Richardson183> i got a question, do anybody out there use "alltray" for Ubuntu/Kubuntu Linux?
[08:37] <Ralith> tzbishop, xfce.
[08:37] <Pici> !patience Richardson183
[08:37] <Pici> !patience | Richardson183
[08:37] <ubotu> Richardson183: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:38] <Richardson183> Picit:> sorry
[08:38] <IcemanV9> !repeat
[08:38] <Richardson183> Picit:> take your time
[08:38] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:38] <tzbishop> Ralith: I, particularly, do not like xfce.
[08:38] <Ralith> tzbishop, it is faster than either DE though.
[08:39] <ismail> hi all quick question
[08:39] <IcemanV9> tzbishop: don't like it? cuz it is too fast? ;)
[08:39] <Ralith> tzbishop, I haven't used KDE recently enough, but my instinct is that gnome is faster
[08:39] <eXistenZ> How can I replace the letter under the cursor in the terminal
[08:39] <aleksanteri> >_< when i try to install ubuntu-desktop, it needs "xorg". when i try to install "xorg", it needs "libgl1-mesa-glx". when i install "libgl1-mesa-glx", xorg needs "libgl1-mesa-dir"
[08:39] <Ralith> either way it'll be a marginal difference
[08:39] <ismail> for an intel core 2 duo quad.. do u download the 64bit version of ubuntu?
[08:39] <tzbishop> IcemanV9:  :P. no, i don't like ir, I have the choice on open world, haven't I? :P
[08:39] <Ralith> ismail, no.
[08:40] <Hacim07> hello
[08:40] <Ralith> tzbishop, you want fast, use twm ^_^
[08:40] <ismail> Ralith: i downloaded  the regular ubuntu but it doesnt load up live cd
[08:41] <IcemanV9> !info twm
[08:41] <ubotu> twm: Tab window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.0.1-4build1 (edgy), package size 93 kB, installed size 284 kB
[08:41] <aleksanteri> :|
[08:41] <beoba> hi, i want to request a feature for the default ubuntu installer. i assume that i should do this on launchpad, which project does it fall under?
[08:41] <Richardson183> nevermind
[08:41] <Hacim07> problem with dapper to edgy: seems to have problem unistalling samba
[08:41] <tzbishop> ahahahha. I know what is twm...something horrible packaged with x.org and xfree86. hahaha
[08:42] <tzbishop> Ralith: do u use twm?
[08:42] <Ralith> tzbishop, do I look insane? :P
[08:42] <NaPsTeR> come on some one must be using bluelink
[08:42] <mnoir> Question for a DHCP guru - after obtaining it's address , one of my systems is available by name in the local network.  But my other two are not - only by leased IP address.  Where is this behavior controlled?
[08:42] <Pelo> !efax
[08:42] <ubotu> efax: programs to send and receive fax messages. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.9a-19 (edgy), package size 107 kB, installed size 300 kB
[08:42] <wolfwalker> Say, got a question. If I hook my computer with my latest-version Ubuntu installed up to an HP printer, will it be able to read it?
[08:42] <tzbishop> Ralith: great sense of humour...
[08:42] <Hacim07> 2007-02-02 13:07:36,799 ERROR got an error from dpkg for pkg: '/cdrom//pool/main/s/samba/samba_3.0.22-1ubuntu4_i386.deb': 'subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 102
[08:42] <LogicalDash> I have a couple of programs that are supposed to put icons in the notification area, and they do when
[08:42] <cypherdelic> Pici: I cant find any of those files, ieee80211 source is installed
[08:43] <LogicalDash> I launch them manually, but not when I put them in as startup applications. Help?
[08:43] <Hacim07> I can rm it another way?
[08:43] <LogicalDash> (stupid, stupid enter key)
[08:43] <Pici> cypherdelic: did you ever compile the ieee80211 source?
[08:43] <Iceman> I need help getting this line of code working: sudo gedit /usr/share/applications/NVIDIA-Settings.desktop
[08:43] <cypherdelic> Pici: yes i tried, didnt work
[08:43] <aleksanteri> what to do? :|
[08:43] <neftune> Iceman, use gksudo
[08:44] <wolfwalker> Oh well
[08:44] <Ralith> wolfwalker, should be able to. If it ooesn't autoconfigure, it should be easy enough to set up manually
[08:44] <wolfwalker> !HP
[08:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about HP - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:44] <Iceman> instead of sudo, use gksudo?
[08:44] <neftune> yes
[08:44] <Iceman> kk, ill try
[08:44] <mnoir> Iceman: how is it not working?
[08:44] <wolfwalker> What do you do to set it up manually?
[08:44] <tzbishop> Ralith: I am using slack11 + kde. but i'm tired enough of this simple and ilogic thing (kernel 2.4 default? c'mon, 02 feb 2007, my dear!).  I have already used Kubuntu some few times. Maybe it's time to try somethin' new, like GNOME or even KDE but with a decent system
[08:45] <cypherdelic> Pici: any clue
[08:45] <Iceman> it says "cannot open display: run 'geedit --help" blah blah blah
[08:45] <Iceman> and gksudo isnt working either
[08:45] <Ralith> tzbishop, it's really a matter of personal prefrence, whether you use kde or gnome
[08:45] <CheshireViking> is there an ftp appliciation similar to Cute FTP?
[08:45] <Zaggynl> gftp
[08:45] <Cyrus25801> hey anyone played duke 3D on ubuntu. if so where do i get it and how do i install it.
[08:45] <Zaggynl> Cyrus25801, YES!
[08:45] <wolfwalker> |Ralith:| is one busy dude!
[08:46] <Zaggynl> Cyrus25801, lemme find you the tutorial I used
[08:46] <mnoir> Iceman: you should always use a graphic sudo for graphic programs but i do not thing that is your problem
[08:46] <zylche> Zaggynl: "Gruesome" ftp? :P
[08:46] <tzbishop> Ralith: Yes. I am just afraid some programs I use don't work on GNOME, like Amarok and k3b
[08:46] <Zaggynl> zylche, no, an actually pretty nice ftp client
[08:46] <mnoir> Iceman: what happens igf you just gedit aaaa
[08:46] <mnoir> igf=if
[08:46] <wolfwalker> |tzbishop:| k3b works fine on GNOME
[08:46] <Iceman> gedit what?
[08:46] <wolfwalker> I know because that's the first thing I got
[08:46] <wolfwalker> Love it!
[08:46] <Heroin> How do i unpack a .zip with the tar command/
[08:46] <CheshireViking> thanks
[08:47] <mnoir> Iceman: an arbitrary filename
[08:47] <Pici> cypherdelic: Sorry, I'm not sure what to do in this case
[08:47] <tzbishop> wolfwalker: I like k3b too, in fact I love KDE. But, for me, everytime is time to try something new
[08:47] <Zaggynl> Cyrus25801, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1088752&postcount=11
[08:47] <Iceman> im slightly new to this, give me a filename and ill try it and tell u the results
[08:47] <aalhamad> plz.. what is windowz developing server?
[08:47] <Cyrus25801> Zaggynl" thanx. what other cool 3d games can one play on linux
[08:47] <aalhamad> plz.. what is windowz developing server for application?
[08:47] <mnoir> Iceman: fimename = aaaa
[08:48] <wolfwalker> |tzbishop:| KDE sucks eggs. It feels just like what it is, a hasty graphic overlay that wasn't done right.
[08:48] <Zaggynl> Cyrus25801, Quake (all versions), Cube
[08:48] <spartako> 5
[08:48] <ladykeiden> what do i use to reconfigure the xserver when i replace my vid card? i know it'll break. whats the least painful way to fix it?
[08:48] <wolfwalker> |tzbishop:| Just get GNOME and load the programs you want after that
[08:48] <Heroin> How do i unpack a .zip with the tar command/
[08:48] <Zaggynl> Cyrus25801, half life 1 and 2 work pretty well with wine as well
[08:48] <ladykeiden> the new vid is intel 950 integrated gpu
[08:48] <Cyrus25801> Zaggynl: where do i get quake 3
[08:48] <Iceman> if i type in "aaaa", it says the same thing, "cannot open display: Run 'gedit --help' to see a full list of available command line options"
[08:48] <wolfwalker> ........... Mind you, this is only one man's opinion.........
[08:48] <aalhamad> plz   anybody know .. what is windowz developing server for applications?
[08:49] <beoba> why would we know?
[08:49] <Zaggynl> Cyrus25801, not sot sure, I haven't tried it, but do a google for open arena, it's completely free
[08:49] <tzbishop> wolfwalker: It'll be hard to get used to some new programs, because on KDE I use kopete, konversation, amarok, k3b, konqueror, konsole, gwenview....But maybe I like gnome.
[08:49] <aalhamad> beoba, are talking to me?
[08:49] <kitche> ladykeiden: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:49] <evian> I would like to play some H.264 encoded videos from Apple's example page: http://www.apple.com/quicktime/guide/hd/   ... is there a way to do this in Ubuntu?
[08:49] <mnoir> Iceman: ok - so your problem is more fundamental - are you running it from normal terminal window?
[08:49] <Cyrus25801> Zaggynl: thanx
[08:50] <Zaggynl> Cyrus25801, You're welcome!
[08:50] <Iceman> running it from kernel 2.6.17-10-386 recovery
[08:50] <wolfwalker> |tzbishop:| Go to http://packages.ubuntu.com/ and go shopping :D
[08:50] <mnoir> oh - I see
[08:50] <fatbrain> When running lvcreate I get this error,"lvcreate: relocation error: lvcreate: symbol _dm_tree_add_new_dev_mode, version Base not defined in file libdevmapper.so.1.02 with link time reference" any dieas on how to resovel this matter?
[08:50] <mnoir> Iceman: i dunno if X is available in recovery mode
[08:50] <Iceman> i cant get into ubuntu cause im using GeForce GO 6150 graphics, hence the reason im trying to get em to work in terminal
[08:50] <wolfwalker> You'll find a replacement for all those. You can find those, actually, and install them in GNOME, but there are better programs to do most of the things you want to do.
[08:51] <mnoir> Iceman: pls join me in #ubuntu-classroom
[08:51] <GNUtoo> hello how do i connect to a wifi in command line
[08:51] <kale> GNUtoo: use iwconfig
[08:51] <axa-axa> Hi. Can I benefit in sense of speed, if I use Beryl window manager with Gnome?
[08:51] <ladykeiden> kitche: that is it?! that one cmd?
[08:52] <GNUtoo> is there something to do after iwconfig ra0 essid "wrt54gs" ?
[08:52] <kitche> ladykeiden: yes it will help you reconfigure your Xorg install
[08:52] <kale> axa-axa: not really
[08:52] <wolfwalker> So how do you set up a printer manually if Ubuntu doesn't autoconfig?
[08:52] <kale> GNUtoo: depends on your current settings
[08:52] <GNUtoo> no wep key
[08:52] <axa-axa> kale: but doesnt it use hardware acceleration
[08:52] <ferret_0568> I am using Gaim as my IRC Client and I put in nick "ferret_0567" and when I connect to FreeNode with it freenode-connect says: freenode-connect: Received CTCP 'VERSION' (to ferret_0568) from freenode-connect
[08:52] <kale> axa-axa: X does too
[08:52] <GNUtoo> kale: no wep key
[08:52] <NaPsTeR> how can i set a removable drive's permissions to write and stuff?
[08:52] <pbureau> wolfwalker, install CUPS, and use your web browser and point to http://locahost:631 and use admin tab to install it
[08:53] <killaz> hey ubuntu
[08:53] <kale> GNUtoo: well its somelike "iwconfig <NIC> key <yourkey>"
[08:53] <NaPsTeR> help me out
[08:53] <NaPsTeR> plz
[08:53] <killaz> hi pbureau
[08:53] <pbureau> heyho killaz
[08:53] <aalhamad> How can i add aplication in the keyboard shortcut (eg . Nautilus)
[08:53] <axa-axa> kale: So in what way it is "revolutionary" (like Avalon in Vista), except for makeup?
[08:53] <kale> NaPsTeR: kinda hard to help when you don't state a question?
[08:54] <ladykeiden> kitche: thats too easy.... in windows I gotte spin on my head 4.3 times and then reboot into OS2...
[08:54] <GNUtoo> kale:the problem is that after iwconifg ra0 essid "wrt54gs" it doesn'
[08:54] <ferret_0568> I even went to the advanced tab and put in my nick and real name there and setting my "Alias" on the "General" tab to the same as the "Real Name" on the "Advanced" tab
[08:54] <ladykeiden> i so dig linux...
[08:54] <GNUtoo> kale:the problem is that after iwconifg ra0 essid "wrt54gs" it doesn't autenticate
[08:54] <NaPsTeR> i did
[08:54] <pbureau> GNUtoo, does iwconfig show your nic?
[08:54] <GNUtoo> pbureau:yes
[08:54] <killaz> how's the wireless pro doing? ;-)
[08:54] <NaPsTeR> i need to set the permissions for a removable drive
[08:55] <ferret_0568> Does anybody know how to get MadWifi for Ubuntu 6.10?
[08:55] <kale> axa-axa: bad example, never head of vista or Avalon, but one of the ups is a new user interface and way of working with the desktop
[08:55] <kale> GNUtoo: authenticate what?
[08:55] <barleyman> I am setting up server 6.06 LTS with software raid 5 on 3 drives.  It is configured o.k. but the intitial sync seems like it will take days to complete.  Is this normal?  3 SATA 320GB drives
[08:55] <ladykeiden> so, anyone farmilur with the intel 950 gpu used on lappy's?
[08:55] <killaz> :-D
[08:55] <pbureau> GNUtoo, mind taking this private easier
[08:55] <ladykeiden> which drivers give the best performance?
[08:55] <Ralith> hey, cool. Everyone: http://www.retailmenot.com/view/shop.fon.com
[08:56] <axa-axa> kale: ok, but if there wont be any significant benefits in speed, will it be slower than Metacity?
[08:56] <kale> barleyman: then sync will take as long as writing all disks full
[08:56] <NaPsTeR> plz
[08:56] <Kud|> I just reinstalled Ubuntu and it is not recognizing my internet connection. I tried running "sudo pppoeconf" and it isn't recognzing it. Also tried running "pon dsl-provider" to no avail. Anyone have anymore suggestions?
[08:56] <ferret_0568> I have a D-Link DWL-G650 CardBus Wireless G card coming in the mail
[08:56] <kale> axa-axa: are we comparing a window manager with and X server now?
[08:56] <barleyman> kale, i,m sorry what does mean "write disks full"?
[08:56] <ferret_0568> If anybody can post directions, do that in private chat. Thanks
[08:56] <sanotehu> um... I am LogicalDash, but I can't seem to get to that nick because it hasn't recognized that that connection is over. Could someone kick LogicalDash so that I can log back in with that name, please?
[08:57] <axa-axa> kale: Sorry, but isnt the Beryl window manager like Metacity?
[08:57] <freezey> what does Omitting directory mean?
[08:57] <kale> barleyman: when it syncs it make the data on the 3 disks consistent
[08:57] <GNUtoo> kale: i don't have something like that in iwconfig: Access Point: 00:14:BF:E1:DA:DF
[08:57] <kitche> sanotehu: if it's registered just ghost it
[08:57] <kale> GNUtoo: iwlist <NIC> scan
[08:57] <kale> GNUtoo: is your AP there?
[08:57] <NaPsTeR> so u gonna help me out
[08:57] <barleyman> kale: so can that take days to complete?
[08:57] <sanotehu> kitche, what you mean "ghost it"?
[08:57] <NaPsTeR> i really need to do this
[08:57] <ferret_0568> I hope someone has enough time to help me with my Gaim IRC nick problem.
[08:58] <kale> barleyman: if the disk is large enough yes, but i'd say a couple of hours
[08:58] <kitche> sanotehu: ghost means /msg nickserv ghost <nick> <password> it kills it so you cna use it
[08:58] <kale> barleyman: "cat /proc/mdstat" will tell you
[08:58] <barleyman> kale: the disks are 320GB x three
[08:58] <ferret_0568> Xchat-GNOME made me mad because it would open the "Channels" list and then freeze sometimes.
[08:58] <kale> barleyman: mine 300 x 4 take about 5 hours to sync, but thats IDE
[08:58] <LogicalDash> kitche, thanks
[08:58] <krang> If I want to sync my clocks to an NTP server, I should just install the package ntp-simple, yes?
[08:58] <Kud|> I just reinstalled Ubuntu and it is not recognizing my internet connection. I tried running "sudo pppoeconf" and it isn't recognzing it. Also tried running "pon dsl-provider" to no avail. My connection is an ADLSPPPoE type if you couldn't guess already. Anyone have anymore suggestions? :(
[08:59] <axa-axa> kale: is Beryl windows manager like Metacity or something else?
[08:59] <ferret_0568> Infact, actually I would be lucky if it didn't freeze on me...
[08:59] <NaPsTeR> plz help me
[08:59] <Ralith> axa-axa, think vista, but cooler and doesn't need tons of resources
[08:59] <ferret_0568> True
[08:59] <LogicalDash> Can anyone help me guess why icons don't appear in the notification area for apps that launch on startup?
[08:59] <barleyman> kale: my brand new SATA drives have taken more than 24 hours, something must be wrong
[08:59] <kale> axa-axa: your are asking something like "which is best, a Ford or a car?"
[08:59] <ferret_0568> I like Linux
[08:59] <kale> barleyman: is DMA enabled for those disks?
[09:00] <pbureau> GNUtoo,  you there ?
[09:00] <ferret_0568> Beryl is awesome
[09:00] <barleyman> uh, that is probably my problem, ... what is DMA?
[09:00] <IcemanV9> krang: ntpdate is already installed; use ntpdate <time server>
[09:00] <GNUtoo> pbureau:year my pc was slow...i rebooted
[09:00] <ferret_0568> I have tried it. BTW, what is my nick now?
[09:00] <kale> afk
[09:00] <Kud|> anyone??
[09:00] <NaPsTeR> help me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[09:00] <NaPsTeR> im dying
[09:00] <krang> Iceman: I want it to sync constantly, and I gather I need something more running for that
[09:00] <axa-axa> kale: kale if Beryl is window manager and Metacity is window manager also, I'm asking which one will be _faster_ with Gnome?
[09:00] <ferret_0568> All Gaim shows is "Travis" for every one of my messages
[09:00] <krang> IcemanV9: I want it to sync constantly, and I gather I need something more running for that
[09:01] <IcemanV9> krang: crontab can do that
[09:01] <axa-axa> Ralith: I'm really only interested in that will it be faster than Metacity with Gnome?
[09:01] <Ralith> axa-axa, uh, no, adding high end fancy 3D effects typically doesn't make things faster.
[09:01] <krang> IcemanV9: man ntpdate will tell you that is non-optimal
[09:01] <Kud|> :/
[09:02] <ferret_0568> It will be the same, depending on graphics card and effects enabled. Alternatively, it could be slower/much slower,
[09:02] <LogicalDash> What should I do to find out precisely what's happening when my startup programs launch?
[09:02] <Ralith> well, on any non-ancient system it should run perfectly smoothly
[09:02] <Ralith> my intel onboard graphics handle it fine
[09:02] <LogicalDash> Maybe they're giving some helpful error messages that I'm not seeing, I don't know.
[09:02] <Ralith> so long as I keep certaine ffects off
[09:03] <ferret_0568> Yeah, but I have a NVIDIA GeForce 4 440 Go with AGP 4x and 64 MB of RAM
[09:03] <IcemanV9> krang: crontab will be scheduled to run ntpdate command every 15 min or every hour or every 5 hours
[09:03] <ferret_0568> It does not run too good
[09:03] <axa-axa> Ralith: That is what I wanted to hear. Thanks. In that case I'll stick to Metacity, the reason I was asking that is because I misundersood the point of use of "hardware acceleration" in Beryl.
[09:03] <IcemanV9> !crontab
[09:03] <[ginge] > Hi all to create another "waste basket" launcher icon, what would the command be?
[09:03] <Ralith> ferret_0568, must be misconfigured; my intel has worse stats.
[09:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crontab - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:04] <Ralith> axa-axa, heh. It uses it because it NEEDS to. Everything uses 2D acceleration, anyway.
[09:04] <ferret_0568> My nick should be ferret_0567...
[09:04] <krang> IcemanV9: from man ntpdate: "it is important to note that ntpdate with contrived cron scripts is no substitute for the NTP daemon"
[09:04] <LogicalDash> [ginge] , try ln -s trash:///
[09:04] <Kud|> I just reinstalled Ubuntu and it is not recognizing my internet connection. I tried running "sudo pppoeconf" and it isn't recognzing it. Also tried running "pon dsl-provider" to no avail. My connection is an ADLSPPPoE type if you couldn't guess already. It worked fine before I reinstalled so I'm not sure what the problem is. Anyone have anymore suggestions? :(
[09:04] <ferret_0568> I had the NVIDIA beta module in Fedora Core 6. "Beta" is slower code...
[09:04] <_Archangel> what is the package for nvidia video card drivers please ?
[09:04] <Hoosteen> ok peeps..got a question...i need to uninstall all ndiswrapper stuff...how do i go about doing that?
[09:05] <pbureau> !nvidia
[09:05] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:05] <dmchugh> Anyone had luck getting AT 9250 card runnin under 6.1 with 3d rendering?
[09:05] <kitche> _Archangel: nvidia-glx
[09:05] <dmchugh> ati*
[09:05] <Ralith> ferret_0568, hahaha, fedora
[09:05] <ferret_0568> Somebody at my LUG said NVIDIA had stable drivers with AIGLX in them
[09:05] <ferret_0568> Yeah, I didn't like Fedora
[09:05] <axa-axa> Ralith: That's what I said, my bad. In case I want to see for myself what is the fus about, and install it, do I need just to do 'sudo update-alternatives --config x-window-manager' and select Beryl to use it with Gnome?
[09:06] <eXistenZ> I wonder why companies don't port their softwares to linux.
[09:06] <kitche> ferret_0568: the nvidia drivers support what compiz and beryl needs to run correctly
[09:06] <exwhyzed> can anyone help me set up madwifi?
[09:06] <yellowdart> Hoosteen, sudo apt-get remove ndiswrapper-utils ndiswrapper-utils-1.1 ndiswrapper-utils-1.8
[09:06] <Egypteone> hello
[09:06] <dmchugh> Ferret_0568, I'm beggining to think the same...
[09:06] <IcemanV9> krang: uh (just read man ntpdate)
[09:06] <kale> barleyman: cat /proc/mdstat will tell you how far the sync is and how fast the progress is
[09:07] <krang> IcemanV9: yeah, I know. Nothing can be simple :-)
[09:07] <kale> exwhyzed: want to use native driver?
[09:07] <ferret_0568> Ubuntu would seem newbie-ish but it only comes on one CD
[09:07] <Hoosteen> yellowdart: thanks!
[09:07] <ferret_0568> Just install devel tools and there you go. I like Ubuntu
[09:08] <exwhyzed> kale: my card was not recognized when I installed so I'm downloaded/installed linux-restricted-modules and madwifi-tools but it still is not recognized
[09:08] <kale> exwhyzed: does it show up in lspci?
[09:08] <Ralith> axa-axa, no, you just need to add beryl-manager to your gnome session autostart programs.
[09:08] <IcemanV9> krang: well, it is doable; try this --> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/keeping-your-system-clock-current-automatically-via-network-time-protocol-ntp.html
[09:08] <dmchugh> TRying Ati's drivers, but stuck on: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[09:08] <luis> ula
[09:09] <krang> IcemanV9: Oh yeah, doable'
[09:09] <Ralith> axa-axa, you, of course, need it installed
[09:09] <exwhyzed> kale:  it shows up as "Atheros Communications, Inc. Unknown device 001c"
[09:09] <krang> IcemanV9: But I want only the best for my boxes :-)
[09:09] <axa-axa> Ralith: That's all? And what about Metacity, will it be running while Beryl does?
[09:09] <kale> exwhyzed: same as mine
[09:09] <minerale> who manages Launchpad? there's a launchpad account~username I'd like to use but it's unavailable, it was used in the prior version: "This page was created on 2005-10-14 when the ulogd package was imported into Breezy."
[09:09] <IcemanV9> krang: well .. ^_^
[09:10] <exwhyzed> kale:  and your's worked with the native drivers?
[09:10] <Ralith> axa-axa, no, it won't.
[09:10] <Ralith> axa-axa, and yes, that's all
[09:10] <kale> exwhyzed: but i am sorry i cannot help on hardware specific issues as i do not run ubuntu...
[09:10] <Ralith> axa-axa, don't try it if you don't have accelerated 3D working
[09:10] <nozey> can someone take a look at this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=351860
[09:10] <ferret_0568> This got lost in the flood: (02:55:05 PM) Travis: Does anybody know how to get MadWifi for Ubuntu 6.10?
[09:10] <axa-axa> Ralith: Last question: Should I kill Metacity after I start Beryl?
[09:11] <Pici> axa-axa: beryl will take care of that for you
[09:11] <Pici> axa-axa: you can also fall back to metacity if beryl has issues
[09:11] <ferret_0568> It'll exit by itself. The window managers hand off windows to each other
[09:11] <mnoir> Question for a DHCP guru - after obtaining it's address , one of my systems is available by name in the local network.  But my other two are not - only by leased IP address.  Where is this behavior controlled?
[09:11] <Ralith> axa-axa, no, it takes care of that itself
[09:12] <kale> mnoir: probablyt the dhcp server reports the hostname to a dns server
[09:12] <axa-axa> Ok, then if it takes care of that and I need only to put it in autostart, I'll go to download it :)
[09:12] <axa-axa> Thanks for answers.
[09:12] <fox__> hello
[09:13] <ferret_0568> beryl-manager is the command you put in auto-start I believe
[09:13] <Ralith> axa-axa, beryl-manager, remember
[09:13] <Hoosteen> ok..anybody have any idea how to unmodprobe something?
[09:13] <Ralith> that way you get a neat tray icon with configuration settings
[09:13] <kitche> Hoosteen: sudo rmmod
[09:13] <axa-axa> Ralith: ? You mean I should download that?
[09:13] <mnoir> kale: agreed but the dns and dhcp svrs are mine on my firewall and this is working differently for different of my systems :(
[09:13] <dmchugh> wasnt there also a -r option on modprobe?
[09:13] <jcole> how can i make ubuntu use the ntfs-3g driver by default, when i plug in an ntfs drive?
[09:14] <Ralith> axa-axa, sudo apt-get install beryl-manager
[09:14] <Hoosteen> kitche: thanks :D
[09:14] <Ralith> axa-axa, and emerald-themes too
[09:14] <Ralith> sudo apt-get install beryl-manager emerald-themes
[09:14] <axa-axa> Ralith: Ok, thanks a lot Ralith
[09:14] <Ralith> then run beryl-manger on start
[09:14] <Ralith> np
[09:15] <godhell> ok i have kinda of a problem; Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition
[09:15] <godhell> Im dual booting windows and ubuntu with 2 different harddrivers
[09:15] <jojoman02> anyone know of a way to write a text file from command line (without entering an editor gui/term)
[09:15] <Kud|> How do you get linux to recognize a ethernet card if pppoeconf isn't working?
[09:15] <SlicerDicer-> jojoman02: nano?
[09:15] <kitche> jojoman02: cat >> <file>
[09:15] <IcemanV9> jojoman02: nano
[09:15] <dmchugh> So no one got Xlib running properly with Ati drivers on 6.1 (got past the dash bash thin and have driver installed just the Xfree86-DRI missing)
[09:16] <shwag> how can I see who is logged into my machine via SFTP ? I can't see them with 'w' or 'who'
[09:16] <mnoir> jojoman02: echo 'yadda yadda' > file
[09:16] <pbureau> Kud|, type -> lspci  | grep ethernet does it find your card ?
[09:16] <godhell> Any1 know how to fix it?
[09:16] <jojoman02> kitche: thanks, mnoir, thanks :)
[09:17] <kitche> jojoman02: you also do cat > <file> << "EOF" then when you want to exit just type EOF and it should save it and close it
[09:17] <mnoir> jojoman02: cat is better for multi line, end with ctl-d
[09:17] <f4en> can someone help me sort out how to stop dhcp from changing my dns servers all the time?
[09:17] <jojoman02> mnoir, how bout from a script?
[09:17] <Kud|> pbureau: It didn't return anything besides a new command line
[09:17] <f4en> I think it is dhcp
[09:17] <cein> hi all
[09:17] <cein> i need scim setup help
[09:17] <rly> hey
[09:18] <pbureau> Kud|, type -> lspci   does it list your card in that long listing ?
[09:18] <mnoir> jojoman02: can i have half you grade for the assignment :)
[09:18] <rly> where do I download google picasa linux from?
[09:18] <mnoir> you=your
[09:18] <jojoman02> mnoir, how would i end it if i did it from a script?
[09:18] <cein> i have the right imengines installed, and i've got the scim trayicon loaded
[09:18] <randomtime> Hey guys, does anyone know hot to get USB support working for ubuntu. I've been using windows and only a few weeks ago installed ubuntu, but since then I havn't been able to use any of my USB devices on it.
[09:18] <mnoir> jojoman02: what kitche said
[09:18] <jojoman02> mnoir, it's not an assignment lol, i'm trying to create this script
[09:18] <variant> ahh, I ran out of diskspace on / so i did mv /usr/bin/ /home/bin and ln -s /home/bin /usr/bin. it seemes to have worked but most of the binaries did not move.. like firefox no longer exits! anyone know what might have gone wrong?
[09:18] <cein> but when i click on it i don't see any language choices
[09:18] <mnoir> jojoman02:
[09:18] <jojoman02> kitche, thanks:)
[09:18] <Kud|> pbureau: No, but it did return my onboard ethernet card strangely enough. Let me try that real quick.
[09:19] <mnoir> jojoman02: join me in #ubuntu-classroom
[09:19] <shut-> what ubuntu use kde
[09:19] <shut-> or what?
[09:19] <variant> randomtime: right click the panel and add applet, from that window select disk mounter. then when you plug in a usb device it will show on the panel bar
[09:19] <kitche> shut-: gnome kubuntu is kde xubuntu is xfce
[09:19] <flammenwurfer> IS anybody running Ubuntu Ultimate 1.1?
[09:19] <shut-> ah
[09:19] <shut-> thanks
[09:19] <variant> flammenwurfer: there is no such version
[09:20] <jcole> flammenwurfer: ya, got LGA enabled too
[09:20] <Kud|> pbureau: Didn't work or get recognized by pppoeconf either
[09:20] <jcole> http://www.linuxgenuineadvantage.org/
[09:20] <cod1> now that i've installed beryl, my taskbar shows through any fullscreen apps i run, like games or mythtv
[09:21] <jcole> jesus: save us all
[09:21] <kitche> flammenwurfer: go here http://ubuntusoftware.info/ultimate/index.html and talk with them since it's not a ubuntu product
[09:21] <Kud|> pbureau: Any ideas?
[09:22] <godhell> when i try to boot into ubuntu I get error 17: Cannot mount selected partition.
[09:22] <pbureau> Kud|, well now you know it seees the ethernet card, but is there a driver loaded for it ? type lshw and look under *-network
[09:22] <xixor> howdy everybody
[09:22] <godhell> Anyone knows how to change in the grub boot menu?
[09:22] <sivik> godhell, what kind of change
[09:22] <kitche> godhell: yes do you know your ubuntu partition?
[09:23] <xixor> I think I am going to install ubuntu this weekend on my thinkpad x60 notebook, I am quite excited
[09:23] <godhell> I got 2 hdds, one with ubuntu other with windows
[09:23] <godhell> i can boot into windows, but not ubuntu
[09:23] <sivik> godhell, did you install ubuntu first or windows first?
[09:23] <zer0bit> hello .. i need some information on ubuntu .. firstly i am ZERO in linux.. i have always been a windows user .. but i want to give a try to linux
[09:23] <godhell> ubuntu is set as boot hdd
[09:24] <godhell> windows is secondary
[09:24] <godhell> can the problem be that windows hdd is set as master?
[09:24] <godhell> =p
[09:24] <Kud|> wow this seems like it's just going to be fast reinstalling since no one seems to have any suggestions for my problem :/
[09:24] <zer0bit> i have too many newbie questions .. so please someone who is free pm me .. wouldnt want to disturb main channel with n00b questions
[09:25] <cod1> now that i've installed beryl, my taskbar shows through any fullscreen apps i run, like games or mythtv, anyone know hot to fix that?
[09:25] <kitche> godhell: no it just seems like your menu.lst is set incorrectly
[09:25] <fatbrain> godhell: just edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:25] <godhell> how do i do it from being in the grub menu?
[09:25] <IcemanV9> xixor: you'll love it :) (dapper on TP z60m owner)
[09:25] <Randomtime_> sorry my wireless lost connection, i was looking for a usb fix
[09:25] <kitche> godhell: press e at grub should take you to edit mode if not then you need to press esc then e
[09:25] <xixor> Iceman: I am hoping so, I have been a Debian user since about 1997, but have been hearing so many good things about ubuntu
[09:26] <riotkittie> Kud|: whats your prob?
[09:26] <godhell> kitche; now i've pressed e
[09:26] <jcole> variant: is there a repo for picasa? or is it already included?
[09:26] <Kud|> riotkittie: Ubuntu isn't recognizing my ethernet card no matter what I do; pppoeconf, pon ads-provider, etc
[09:26] <kitche> godhell ok go to the kernel line and see what root= says
[09:26] <riotkittie> zer0bit: your "n00b" questions are quite welcome, ask :P
[09:27] <variant> jcole: there is a .deb on googles picasa site. you can just download/run with default app to install it
[09:27] <harry__> what's the ubuntu version of a task manager? or a process list. i need to kill a firefox process, but there aren't any windows open
[09:27] <zer0bit> riotkittie .. ok.. thanks .. firstly as a windows user is it good idea to learn linux ?
[09:27] <riotkittie> Kud|: ah. :\
[09:27] <jcole> Kud|: lspci | grep Ethernet
[09:27] <Randomtime> i can't remember who I was talking too but someone was helping me with my usb???
[09:27] <jcole> variant: how do you know when there is an update?
[09:27] <godhell> kitche; says kernel /boot/vmlinuz.... and after abit of text it says root=/dev/sdb ro quiet splas (smoething)
[09:27] <Randomtime> !ubotu usb
[09:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:27] <Kud|> jcole: Tried that, grep is just bringing me up a new command line rather than returning anything
[09:27] <variant> jcole: no idea
[09:27] <cstextile1> Is python already included in the ubuntu-desktop?
[09:28] <Randomtime> !python
[09:28] <ubotu> python: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.4.3-11ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 37 kB, installed size 208 kB
[09:28] <kitche> godhell: yes your root= is setup wrong should be /dev/sdb1 or 2 depending which partition is your / but I m guesisng it's probably 1
[09:28] <riotkittie> zer0bit: if you're curious and/or interested about learning linux, then yes, it is a good idea. if youre not, its not :P
[09:28] <jcole> Randomtime: what's up with your usb?
[09:28] <jcole> Randomtime: usb or a usb device?
[09:28] <godhell> kitche; doh forgott it says /dev/sdb1 ro quiet
[09:28] <riotkittie> Kud|: ah :\  and i am useless with hardware. sorry.
[09:28] <Randomtime> jcole: usb
[09:28] <IcemanV9> harry__: in terminal, type top & kill firefox process
[09:28] <harry__> thanks ice
[09:28] <zer0bit> riotkittie .. i had given a serious try to learn linux a few months back by installing mandrake linux .. ended up losing all my data and formatting my HD..
[09:29] <jcole> Randomtime: what exactly is the problem?
[09:29] <Randomtime> just dosn't work with ubuntu, worked with windows before i wiped
[09:29] <zer0bit> riotkittie so someone told me there is something called LIVE CD .. linux that runs from cd and doesnt touch hard drive s
[09:29] <riotkittie> and senile. apparently i am unable to remember sentences typed 3 minutes back
[09:29] <Kud|> riotkittie: hehe np bud, just annoying since it was working fine yesterday.
[09:29] <jcole> Randomtime: did you check dmesg?
[09:29] <zer0bit> riotkittie .. someone also said that ubuntu has that type of cd .. but it says nothing on your site about live cd
[09:29] <dmchugh> Godhell: But unix is secondary drive isnt it then sd2
[09:29] <Randomtime> jcole: I havn't a clue what that is
[09:29] <nn531> !ipod
[09:29] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[09:30] <rpedro> !desktopcd
[09:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about desktopcd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:30] <godhell> dmchugh; the linux drive is set as "first" hdd in BIOS settings
[09:30] <kitche> godhell: ok how about what does root( ) say
[09:30] <jcole> Randomtime: oh ok, so you don't know if it is a usb problem
[09:30] <Randomtime> I do
[09:30] <jcole> Randomtime: try this -> dmesg | grep usb
[09:30] <jojoman02> mnoir, thanks for everything especially the fhs02.3
[09:30] <riotkittie> zer0bit: wow, that is rough re: mandrake and data loss. yes, there are live CDs and yes , you can find them on the website. theyre  the default download.
[09:30] <dmchugh> godhell: sd1 then.. (sata drive)
[09:30] <godhell> kitche; root=/dev/sdb1 ro quiet splas........... *somthing*
[09:30] <Randomtime> sorry n00b
[09:31] <kitche> godhell: root () is what I want not root=
[09:31] <Randomtime> I don't know anything yet
[09:31] <haraldhv> what does it mean that the linux-image-amd64-k8 has been obsoleted by linux-image-generic? Does ubuntu simply not have special amd64-k8 kernels?
[09:31] <godhell> ah
[09:31] <ala> what would you guys recommend for feisty: compiz or beryl?
[09:31] <godhell> kitche; root (hd4,0)
[09:31] <zer0bit> riotkittie  .. i red the whole website .. it offers one download .. some .iso cd .. and says its installable .. it doesnt say its live cd .. if it wants to install anything on my HD i dont want it .. if its something that wont touch my HD i want it .. how to figure that out ?
[09:31] <jcole> Randomtime: paste the output from "dmesg | grep usb" to http://pastebin.ca/
[09:32] <mnoir> !generic| haraldhv
[09:32] <ubotu> haraldhv: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[09:32] <kitche> godhell ok that looks wrong should be hd1,0 or sd1,0 depending how your bios sees the sata drives
[09:32] <Randomtime> I don't know how to do that, sorry
[09:32] <kitche> godhell: unless you have four drives in your computer of course
[09:32] <f4en> anyone here good with dhcp / leases nameservers?
[09:32] <jcole> Randomtime: go to a terminal
[09:32] <rpedro> zer0bit: get the desktop iso. it's a livecd + it installs if you so choose
[09:32] <Randomtime> ok
[09:32] <godhell> kitche; i got about 6 drives in my comp
[09:32] <TheShrimp> hello, I customized my ubuntu installation, can I make that into a new live CD that way if I want to show my friends or if I reinstall I can keep my settings?
[09:32] <riotkittie> zer0bit: the one it's offering /is/ the live CD. does it have Desktop in the name?
[09:32] <mnoir> f4en: maybe
[09:32] <jcole> f4en: man dhclient
[09:32] <Randomtime> that i know how to do
[09:33] <r_rehashed> hi all
[09:33] <CorrosionX> Hey guys, I installed Ubuntu on my 2nd hard drive and i thought it would install Grub on the 1st drive but I don't get it when my computer boots, can someone tell me how to fix it?
[09:33] <jcole> Randomtime: type "dmesg | grep usb" and hit enter
[09:33] <f4en> mnoir, hmm I am having a problem with dhcp overwriting my manually added nameservers, know how to prevent this?
[09:33] <kitche> godhell: ok hmm well root that you have says it's drive 3 and the first partition
[09:33] <Randomtime> yeah i'm rebooting to termanal
[09:33] <jcole> Randomtime: no
[09:33] <r_rehashed> anybody here with 64-bit Ubuntu and the flash plug-in working in Firefox?
[09:33] <mnoir> f4en: no :( sorry
[09:33] <f4en> k
[09:33] <jcole> Randomtime: gnome terminal
[09:33] <Randomtime> dmest | grep usb
[09:34] <zer0bit> http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download?action=show&redirect=download   ... no it doesnt say desktop OR live CD anywhere
[09:34] <Randomtime> i know
[09:34] <kitche> r_hashed: some people do they had ot make a 32bit chroot to use it you cna also use nspluginwrapper also
[09:34] <jcole> Randomtime: Applications->Accessories->Terminal
[09:34] <godhell> kitche; okej, well it's set as number one in BIOS, but then again I got 3 SATA drives and 3 IDE drives, 1 IDE drive is being set as master and in BIOS secondary HDD
[09:34] <riotkittie> zer0bit: i dont have access to a GUi at the moment. hold on a sec.
[09:34] <r_rehashed> kitche: I have nspluginwrapper installed
[09:34] <nanda> hi, how can I install a .run binary?
[09:34] <LogicalDash> My notification area isn't displaying icons for apps that load on startup... but it works fine the rest of the time. I don't know what's wrong, help?
[09:34] <Randomtime> doh
[09:35] <r_rehashed> kitche: now what do I do?
[09:35] <kitche> godhell: hmm it's hard to tell really if your not sure how the drive is seen by your computer the bios boot order is different then what the computer sees it as
[09:35] <dmchugh> godhel, kitche. Maybe duplicate sections for every drive and check witch one gets hime where he wants
[09:35] <Ricket> Hi, I am getting the AGP error "xf86_ENOMEM" as mentioned in the URL at the end of this message, the box says to "load the kernel driver" but I don't understand the details of how to do it, provided here. Someone please tell me exactly what I need to do. http://xoomer.alice.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html#agp
[09:35] <Beverage> hey guys I am trying to get my nvidia drivers to install and work for my Geforce 5500, out of the two I have tried my xserver always crashed and I have to recover my old xorg.conf anyone got suggestions?
[09:35] <zer0bit> riotkittie ... take your time =) i am not gonna leave this channel until i decide whether i want to learn linux or not .. i mean before starting the thing first stumbling block for a windows user is to figure out whatever that needs to be downloaded is live or not
[09:36] <r_rehashed> kitche:I downloaded the flash 9 plugin and pasted it in /usr/llib/firefox/plugins
[09:36] <kitche> r_rehashed: this hsould help you http://gwenole.beauchesne.info/en/projects/nspluginwrapper#documentation
[09:36] <r_rehashed> ty :)
[09:36] <Randomtime> jcole: It's gonna take me about 5 mins
[09:36] <godhell> dmchugh; well i can't save it to say root (hd6,0) for eg, when i go out from the editing it goes back to root (hd4,0) setting
[09:37] <godhell> and in windows it's seen as disk6
[09:37] <MrWamu> Does anyone know where I can get a good anti virus for ubuntu...?
[09:37] <andre> hey guys
[09:37] <CorrosionX> Hey guys, I installed Ubuntu on my 2nd hard drive and i thought it would install Grub on the 1st drive but I don't get it when my computer boots, can someone tell me how to fix it?
[09:37] <zer0bit> MrWamu .. i thought linux was virus free thingy
[09:37] <host`> how do I do a scan of my hd and files to see if damage was done during a warm-reboot?
[09:37] <kitche> for the ones that use picasa and a virus scanner this should help you out also http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Labs-Picasa-for-Linux/browse_thread/thread/28956757a2f4454e it's a flase positive
[09:37] <dmchugh> Godhell sounds like the controller order may have to best set (SATA LAST)
[09:37] <kitche> !clamav
[09:37] <ubotu> clamav: antivirus scanner for Unix. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.88.4-1ubuntu2.1 (edgy), package size 65 kB, installed size 208 kB
[09:37] <MrWamu> For the most part...
[09:38] <kitche> MrWamu: it only detects windows viruses though
[09:38] <andre> I'm wondering if there are any linux dedicated torrent search engines out there??
[09:38] <wendrownik> welcom
[09:38] <zer0bit> MrWamu .. well .. are you trying to say that there are viruses for linuxes ?
[09:38] <host`> there are viruses in linux
[09:38] <andre> you should clarify that
[09:38] <dmchugh> Godhell: no ignore that..
[09:38] <host`> just a little more rare than in windows
[09:38] <godhell> dmchugh; ignore what?
[09:38] <andre> there are no viruses in linux
[09:38] <wendrownik> ?speak polish
[09:38] <jcole> host`: fsck
[09:39] <andre> though some virii do exist FOR linux
[09:39] <zer0bit> host` .. well .. then i think i am better off with windows .. atleast i am an advance user of windows .. zilch in linux.. so its more of a lost cause
[09:39] <Beverage> MrWamu, apparently avg has linux antivirus but im not sure about that, and yes folks there are linux virus's....VERY VERY few and the chance of you gettingone is a billion to 0
[09:39] <andre> zer0bit: give it a chance ;)
[09:39] <jcole> linux has like 2 and a half viruses
[09:39] <zer0bit> jcole .. matter of time
[09:40] <jcole> zer0bit: ya, they say the same thing about macs
[09:40] <host`> how do I run fsck... I don't want to run it on a mounted fs
[09:40] <Ricket> How do I double-check that a modprobe command actually took effect? I hate how it doesn't return anything for "success" (which I don't trust to be success!)
[09:40] <dmchugh> godhell: You are booting Sata first SD4 is your first IDE drive
[09:40] <agent> samba no longer works since yesterday (via nautilus) - works via linneighbourhood - anyone know how to fix this?
[09:40] <dmchugh> godhell SD4=HD4 sry
[09:40] <jcole> host`: mount -o remount,ro /dev/xxx /media/xxx
[09:41] <godhell> dmchugh; well i can't change anything in the editing becouse it wont save
[09:41] <zer0bit> well.. change is not easy for a windows user .. your linux community is still ruled by geeks.. i find it difficult even to start.. but i am not going to give up just yet
[09:41] <host`> jcole, I'm guessing I need to do this in tty1 or so...
[09:41] <IcemanV9> !pl | wendrownik
[09:41] <ubotu> wendrownik: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:41] <zer0bit> riotkittie .. did u check the website ?
[09:41] <dmchugh> kitche: any ideas?
[09:41] <Randomtime> Jcole: Is there a space between that or not?
[09:42] <Ricket> If I use modprobe on a module, is that module permanently installed? Does it stay installed or added or w/e through a reboot?
[09:42] <godhell> zer0bit; don't judge people becouse they run another OS, it's like saying windows is for people who loves getting viruses, spywares etc and loves to complain and being angry
[09:42] <qbubble> zer0bit: I was an experienced Windows user as well, made the big step about 5 months ago, playing WoW etc works like a charm and the Ubuntu community in particular, is very friendly. My advice: make the transfer :D.
[09:42] <Randomtime> go qbubble
[09:42] <riotkittie> zer0bit: yeah. if you go to the dowload page and select the mirror closet to you, click on it and it will expand to show you options. the desktop CD is the live disc.
[09:42] <r_rehashed> kitche: can't believe. just 1 commands to get it working! thank you
[09:42] <r_rehashed> command*
[09:43] <jcole> zer0bit: a few basic things make it hard for virus writers... being a non-root user, non-executable by default when saving files, file type is not determined by file extension, etc.
[09:43] <qbubble> zer0bit: are u using a raid setup?
[09:43] <Randomtime> jcole: is there a space between the text to type?
[09:43] <jcole> Randomtime: dmesg|grep usb
[09:43] <jcole> Randomtime: if fine too
[09:43] <Randomtime> ok
[09:43] <riotkittie> brb
[09:44] <godhell> somebody pleease help me <.< it just wont mount my partition and the HDD is set as booter according to BIOS
[09:44] <jcole> zer0bit:and CONFIG_SECURITY_SELINUX=y
[09:44] <zer0bit> riotkittie .. well .. yes .. it says desktop cd and says i dont have to change anything in my computer .. still they failed to say liveCD .. all the same
[09:45] <Randomtime> jcole: nothing just brings me down a line of termanal text
[09:45] <zer0bit> no i am not using a raid setup
[09:45] <Ricket> Does anyone here happen to have an ATI Radeon 9600SE?
[09:45] <Ricket> (or similar)
[09:45] <qbubble> zer0bit: nvm then :D
[09:45] <jcole> zer0bit: most viruses exploit buffer overflows, which is hard with that enabled... grep CONFIG_SECURITY_SELINUX= /boot/config-`uname -r`
[09:45] <dmchugh> godhell: Save the changes to hd4 but indicate the correct drive in the boot menu file..
[09:45] <jcole> Randomtime: hmm
[09:46] <Randomtime> zer0bit: the desktop CD's a trial realy, Knoppix is good if your going to be running day to day without installing
[09:46] <godhell> dmchugh; but it wont save
[09:46] <rpedro> Ricket: I have a regular radeon 9600pro
[09:46] <double> Ubuntu 6.10 installer keeps crashing. Any advice?
[09:46] <riotkittie> hrm.
[09:46] <zer0bit> Randomtime .. yes .. yesterday i downloaded it .. atleast it says very specifically for a new user like me that everything will happen from CD .. makes things easier to understand for a newbie
[09:46] <Ricket> rpedro: Is it working on Ubuntu? If so can you private message me and help me get my 9600SE working?
[09:46] <jcole> Randomtime: paste everything from "dmesg" to http://pastebin.ca/
[09:46] <riotkittie> it mentions it under the information section :P
[09:46] <rpedro> Ricket: /join #ati
[09:47] <zeifer> double, run a disc check on your installation disc
[09:47] <godhell> dmchugh; how do i save?
[09:47] <Randomtime> jcole: nothing cake out
[09:47] <Randomtime> lol cake
[09:47] <Randomtime> came
[09:47] <dmchugh> godhell; I'm used to editing the file outside the the boot manager.. Kitche?
[09:47] <CBinGR> hey all, i am running ubuntu and cant get my wifi to work, i have the ipw3945 driver and everything from the ubuntu user guides and still no luck, and ideas?
[09:47] <Randomtime> double: try increasing size of partition
[09:47] <jcole> Randomtime: dmesg
[09:47] <host`> how do I go to single user mode?
[09:48] <Randomtime> CBinGR: are the drivers linux compattable
[09:48] <zer0bit> Randomtime .. its just that knoppix latest thingy is a bit buggy .. xwindows keeps restarting when i try to open BIG movie files
[09:48] <Randomtime> jcole: dmesg was typed in
[09:48] <CBinGR> Randomtime, i hope so, i apt-get installed em
[09:48] <jcole> Randomtime: if nothing printed you are not running linux
[09:48] <double> randomtime: i wiped out all the partitions using a win98 startup floppy
[09:49] <jcole> lol, win98 floppy... i remember those days
[09:49] <dmchugh> andre said: "there are no viruses in linux" just developers
[09:49] <double> zeifer: i checked the cd and it is fine. no errors detected
[09:49] <godhell> OMFG now it says that NTLDR is missing when i try to boot into windows :o
[09:50] <jcole> godhell: oops
[09:50] <zer0bit> can some average user of ubuntu please pm me ?
[09:50] <riotkittie> knoppix. ugh. debian based live cds make me weep. including teh ubuntu disc :P
[09:50] <double> jcole: i had to do something!
[09:50] <riotkittie> zer0bit: elaborate on "average"
[09:50] <Randomtime> jcole: I am
[09:50] <Randomtime> Jcole: ok finaly
[09:51] <zer0bit> riotkittie .. yes but atleast you can figure out which is a livedisc and which is not .. how to figure it out on my own ?
[09:51] <dmchugh> godhell: Very apropriate explicative...
[09:51] <lola> hey! anybody whos got working a xorg.config file with video-out support for an Intel GMA Graphics card (macbook)?
[09:51] <zer0bit> riotkittie .. for knoppix they said there that everything runs from CD .. here they are not saying anything specifically .. (dont forget that i am a TOTAL newbie in the world of linux)
[09:51] <riotkittie> zer0bit: reading the information page would be a good start :P   though, while i did not do heavy searching, it appears that its only mentioned at the end of the page.
[09:51] <zeifer> double, how does it "crash" on you?
[09:52] <riotkittie> perhaps it should be somewhere more prominent, and explained more thoroughly.
[09:52] <double> zeifer: i launch the grahic icon installer, it creates partitions, and after about 15% it gives long list of errors
[09:53] <Randomtime> jcole: ok i've got the big lump of text, but I don't have internet to paste it anywhere
[09:53] <Randomtime> what line are you looking for and i'll type that in manualy
[09:53] <godhell> dmchugh; well i got some important things on the windows desk so i rather save it first
[09:53] <zer0bit> riotkittie .. yep =)  thats what actually i wanted to say !! i am still trying to find it actually but i do take your  word for it
[09:53] <aib> anyone know what package I can find python's distutils in? I haven't had luck on packages.ubuntu.com
[09:54] <zer0bit> The desktop CD allows you to try Ubuntu without changing your computer at all, and at your option to install it permanently later. This type of CD is what most people will want to use. You will need at least 192MB of RAM to install from this CD.
[09:54] <lola> any macbook owners here?
[09:54] <Randomtime> !desktop CD
[09:54] <preaction> yes'm
[09:54] <jcole> Randomtime: firefox?
[09:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about desktop CD - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:54] <double> lola: i have a mackbook
[09:55] <lola> double, sweet! have you upgraded to feisty?
[09:55] <riotkittie> zer0bit: it does not use the term live disc but if you start at ubuntu.com and follow the information link after desktop, on the bottom of that page it mentions being able to use it w/o changing things
[09:55] <dmchugh> godhell: http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000465.htm
[09:55] <ad> ubuntu upgrades disasters
[09:55] <Randomtime> jcole: if the internet dosn't connect at all then i'm hardly going to use firefox, I'm trying to get the usb fixed so that I can get the fix for my internet
[09:55] <riotkittie> oh im slow.
[09:55] <double> lola: i am trying to run edgy.  dapper kept crashing
[09:55] <lola> double, it solved a lot of problems..
[09:55] <jcole> Randomtime: dmesg | grep usb
[09:56] <Randomtime> jcole: done
[09:56] <ad> http://element14.wordpress.com/2006/10/27/ubuntu-edgy-upgrades-a-disaster-for-many/
[09:56] <lola> double, now grub works fine
[09:56] <double> lola: oops, i am trying to run that stuff on a vectra Pent III 933gHZ
[09:56] <jcole> Randomtime: did you get output?
[09:56] <riotkittie> i'm dealing with a hyperactive toddler and am mildly distracted
[09:56] <lola> double, without an OSX partition
[09:56] <Randomtime> for the dmesg yes, not the grep usb
[09:56] <lola> double, ok
[09:57] <double> lola: can we do a private chat? I have a few items and dont want to mess up the flow on the open chat
[09:57] <zer0bit> neways guys .. one this is for sure .. this community especially riotkittie rock big =)
[09:57] <zer0bit> just because you fellas will be around i will give it a go =)
[09:57] <Akuma_> what utility can i use to get my own ip address? from the command line
[09:57] <FarrisG> Are there any simple, F/OSS apps for generating reports on web access? I suppose the data would be collected at my firewall, and shot into a DB, then pulled by a script on my web server? I feel disgusting looking into this, but my boss has finally decided that he wants us to start tracking all the porn sites our employees are going to
[09:57] <Randomtime> that's a linux community, 300% better than your adverage windows user
[09:57] <mnoir> Akuma_: ip addr ls
[09:57] <riotkittie> zer0bit: yeah, the community is the reason i've stuck with ubuntu. people are really helpful, and really nice
[09:58] <double> is a nick permanent or can it change with every session?
[09:58] <zer0bit> riotkittie that includes you BIGTIME =)
[09:58] <jcole> godhell: you alright?
[09:58] <riotkittie> :)
[09:58] <zer0bit> Randomtime .. yup .. cant disagree there
[09:58] <ad> let's be real though, almost any ubuntu upgrade breaks the system
[09:58] <lola> double, what do you mean?
[09:58] <NET||abuse> hey guys,, i've been having issues reverting from fglrx drivers back to radeon (fglrx doesn't work with aiglx
[09:58] <ad> it's the least stable os i have ever used
[09:58] <godhell> jcole; not yet...
[09:58] <netsrot> hi, how do I configure cd autorun? I think it's nice that it mounts but don't like the window popping up.
[09:58] <mnoir> ad: none have broken mine
[09:58] <ad> you have to use it without tweaking
[09:59] <godhell> trying to fix the ntldr atm
[09:59] <NET||abuse> now i've removed the fglrx-driver, but i still see fglrx.ko in modprobe -l
[09:59] <ad> mine breaks more than windowz
[09:59] <zer0bit> Randomtime .. but at the same time i hope that everytime i come here i will find peeps like you and riotkittie around.. because as you can see, after booting from the CD i am gonna come here HELL LOTTA times to learn things !! ^^
[09:59] <Akuma_> mnoir: thats giving me my address inside the lan, i want my isp assigned address
[09:59] <riotkittie> ad: thats impressive.
[09:59] <lecrucious> I hope someone can help me. I'm new to ubuntu, not to linux, and just loaded edgy. i just added a large disk drive to the server and need to partition it and give it a mount point. I have been search all day and the only docs talk about partitioning during setup. I don't have a gui installed. Does ubuntu have a partitioning tool? I'm use to suse where even their text based tools guide you through everything.
[10:00] <riotkittie> IcemanV9: you may have parted installed. if not, its only an apt-get away
[10:00] <Dumbalien> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=349441
[10:00] <dmchugh> godhell: try the last comment at the bottom of the page here: You will loos Grub though: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=378427
[10:00] <zer0bit> Randomtime btw do you know any good website to start reading about linux ?  ( i know www.google.com is a good place but you guys might have had a look at a few and know which ones are good for total begginer)
[10:00] <IcemanV9> moi?
[10:00] <Dumbalien> anyone help with hardrive problems
[10:00] <jcole> godhell: see PM
[10:00] <riotkittie> IcemanV9: err. no. not you. sorry. ><
[10:00] <NET||abuse> anychance someone can help me? how can i fully remove the kernel module from my system for fglrx??
[10:01] <ad> yeah man, the only reason i liked ubuntu was wealth of documentation
[10:01] <lola> lecrucious, you can manually partition during the installation if thats what you mean
[10:01] <jcole> Randomtime: i can't help you unless i see the dmesg output
[10:01] <ad> but i don't want to read pages because of a system fault and not mine
[10:01] <godhell> dmchugh; it's two different drives, if the other doesnt have ntldr it wont boot, and the linux hdd is using grub and is set as booting hdd and i can get into grub..
[10:01] <IcemanV9> :) it happens
[10:01] <godhell> jcole; what PM? havent gotten any PM
[10:01] <Randomtime> jcole: sorry then i'll leave it for tonight
[10:01] <lecrucious> lola: thank you. Yes I know that. The problem i have is partitioning after install
[10:01] <ad> i think i shouldn't be saying what i'm saying in this room :P
[10:01] <erUSUL> lecrucious: use parted
[10:01] <Randomtime> zer0bit: try google linux http://www.google.com/linux
[10:02] <jcole> Randomtime: no eth card in the linux box?
[10:02] <robdeman> he gang.. what is a good newsgroup client for Linux? one similar to NewsPro on Windows? for downloading binaries like full DVD's and stuff?
[10:02] <erUSUL> lecrucious: is a cli tool but it is easy enough
[10:02] <Dumbalien> what tool would i use to check a hardrive
[10:02] <riotkittie> zer0bit: for the most part, i stick to books over websites... but if there's one site i'd recommend, it's ubuntuforums.org .... there's an absolute wealth of knowledge there
[10:02] <opapo> does anyone know why gedit uses root as your group when connecting to remote servers?
[10:02] <dmchugh> Godhell, I've got to run but dont want to leave you in the learch...
[10:02] <Randomtime> jcole: I can't paste anything and I'm too new to understand somethings
[10:02] <jcole> Randomtime: why not ssh to it from the box you are chatting with right now?
[10:02] <andrea_> www.freepenguin.135.it
[10:03] <saxofoner> Hi all, I've borked my 'Buntu again... the thread I just made is right...http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2097346#post2097346
[10:03] <godhell> dmchugh, leave if you have to, i have to sleep soon anyway
[10:03] <riotkittie> opapo: gedit connects to servers?
[10:03] <jcole> godhell: open up a private window with me
[10:03] <IcemanV9> NET||abuse: from repo OR ati.com?
[10:03] <olsen> distro-tester: back
[10:03] <axa-axa> Hi, one quick question, has Fiesty become stable?
[10:03] <dmchugh> godhell; sorrry :(
[10:03] <opapo> riotkittie: I can use ssh to connect to a server.  I can then edit files on that server.
[10:03] <riotkittie> axa-axa: no, its still in alpha
[10:03] <riotkittie> opapo: ah
[10:04] <axa-axa> thanks
[10:04] <Gc00> is there any particular reasen why my D-Link 530 TX doesn't work with Xubuntu?
[10:04] <IcemanV9> NET||abuse: lots of good info to start at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[10:04] <NET||abuse> IcemanV9: i don't want to use fglrx, i'm trying to remove it.
[10:05] <double> lola:  i was told not to type a whole bunch of questions at the same time.  I heard there is a way to have a private chat if you want to have a longer "conversation"
[10:05] <slept> is there no canadian ubuntu mirror ?
[10:05] <lecrucious> thanx everyone. I think "parted" is what I was looking for.
[10:05] <riotkittie> Gc00: errr. does it show up when you type iwconfig  ?  or lspci ?
[10:05] <NET||abuse> IcemanV9: now i've uninstalled the fglrx driver package, i've reinstalled libgl1-mesa-glx several times, and i am looking at the modprobe -l and still seeing fglrx.ko in the module list
[10:05] <jcole> godhell: windows gets angry when it is not on the 1st partition, but you can do some tricks with grub to make it work
[10:06] <godhell> jcole; help me then
[10:06] <godhell> jcole; it worked before
[10:06] <faLUCE> Hi. I'm trying to install linuxtv-dvb on a 2.6.17-10-generic. It gives me several compilation errors (for example: i had to change, in srcs, a macro called "MODULE_PARM" with "module_param"),,, so i ask: which is the correct way of proceeding? i should patch the kernel or the source code of the drivers? thnks
[10:06] <jcole> godhell: might have been the last update-grub
[10:06] <baegle__> Anyone know when the 2.6.18 kernel will be available through official ubuntu channels?
[10:06] <Gc00> riotkittie: lspci gave me an Ethernet Controller, but "DECChip ..."
[10:06] <shwag> How can I throttle the amount of bandwidth users on my server use via sftp ?
[10:06] <jcole> godhell: again, open a pm window with me
[10:06] <ikonia> faLUCE: don't patch the kernel source as it won't match the pre-compiled binary
[10:07] <godhell> jcole; already done it
[10:07] <ikonia> baegle__: probably never
[10:07] <slept> NET||abuse, modprobe fglrx
[10:07] <baegle__> ikonia: Why not? Are they skipping right over it?
[10:07] <ikonia> shwag: you're best using iptables for that
[10:07] <saxofoner> I borked my xorg.conf, reinstalled the backup, and it's still crazy!  What to do...
[10:07] <faLUCE> ikonia: ?
[10:07] <riotkittie> Gc00: ah. :\  i have the good fortune to own a dLink that worked out of the box  ...   you may have to look into ndiswrapper
[10:07] <ikonia> baegle__: well .19's out and so's .20 so why would they update to .18
[10:07] <AXiOM_> This is prolly noobie, but does anyone know a command to reveal the wirless chipset in my computer????
[10:07] <NET||abuse> slept: yeh, comes up No loading fglrx module; not used in /etc/x11/xorg.con
[10:08] <slept> NET||abuse, if its not there install restricted modules
[10:08] <shwag> ikonia: thats what I was thinking
[10:08] <ikonia> AXiOM_: you may see it with lspci
[10:08] <AXiOM_> ikonia:  danke
[10:08] <Staz> Hi, how can I do hardware tests in Ubuntu, I think my graphics card is dying.
[10:08] <slept> NET||abuse, maybe i don't get what you want
[10:08] <sess> what happened to #ubuntu-xgl
[10:08] <jcole> godhell: why are you now answereing?
[10:08] <ikonia> Staz: you can't
[10:08] <baegle__> ikonia: Oh, hmmmm, I just installed Mint 2.1 which claims to be completely Ubuntu with just some small differences, and I have the 2.6.17 kernel
[10:08] <Staz> ok cheers
[10:08] <godhell> jcole I wrote "k" as last, but i can't see what you are writing...
[10:09] <baegle__> Can I install a later kernel through apt?
[10:09] <ikonia> baegle__: mint is totally different
[10:09] <ikonia> baegle__: no
[10:09] <Gc00> riotkittie: wait, I'm talking about a wired card - it's a pretty common one too
[10:09] <Kristophe> anyone know how to install dansguardian without clamav?
[10:09] <NET||abuse> slept: i'm trying to remove the fglrx module from kernel, basically i tried out the fglrx to see how it would work with beryl, didn't realise composite doesn't work with fglrx, so i am trying to revert back to radeon, i reverted my xorg.conf, removed the fglrx driver package, and replaced /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2, now the only thing remaining of fglrx is the module listed in modprobe -l (fglrx.ko)
[10:10] <lskd-255> did someone say canadian mirrors: # mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/mirror/ubuntu.com # mirror.arcticnetwork.ca/pub/ubuntu/packages # gulus.USherbrooke.ca/pub/distro/ubuntu
[10:10] <jcole> godhell: double click my nick to open a window
[10:10] <ikonia> NET||abuse: you'll have to reboot after removing it
[10:10] <baegle__> ikonia: is that because 2.6.17 is the latest kernel in apt, or because you can't install any kernel through apt?
[10:10] <ikonia> lskd-255: no-one said anything
[10:10] <NET||abuse> slept: at present trying to boot up with glx enabled causes the X serveer to crash out, i can't even switch virtual console, just have a black screen., i've seen online that this is a bug with fglrx
[10:10] <jcole> godhell: are you in gaim? xchat?
[10:10] <sess> pardon, but what happened to #ubuntu-xgl, I hvae questions about compiz/beryl
[10:10] <ikonia> baegle__: its the latest kernel
[10:10] <nats> hello
[10:10] <ikonia> sess: channels still there
[10:11] <sess> I join it, there's no one there
[10:11] <godhell> jcole; xchat
[10:11] <ikonia> maybe its quiet, or maybe its stopped being supported
[10:11] <lskd-255> ikonia, sorry, I thought I read something about it and used the term 'said' loosely
[10:11] <baegle__> ikonia: So, do you know when a newer kernel will be available?
[10:11] <sess> ikonia: it was there yesterday, and its gone today?
[10:11] <jcole> godhell: double click my nick and notice the window
[10:11] <slept> NET||abuse, boot glx ??? you mean start the xserver , no ?
[10:11] <ikonia> baegle__: you're not using ubuntu so I don't have a clue
[10:11] <riotkittie> Gc00: oh.  hm. im useless. someone in the know should speak up in a moment, though. if they havent already
[10:11] <ikonia> sess: well, looks empty now
[10:12] <ikonia> maybe it stopped being supported today
[10:12] <Phopsy> Evening all, I have a BT Home Hub wireless access point. I've put the (E?)SSID in and the WEP key, but it doesn't seem to want to connect. Tried wifi-radar and that finds the signal, but when I click connect won't get an IP address. Is this hardware/signal related, or some other issue?
[10:12] <baegle__> ikonia: how about available in ubuntu?
[10:12] <AXiOM_> Has anyone had their wireless Inter Corporation PRO/100 VE Ethernet Controller working under ubuntu feisty fawn
[10:12] <sess> ikonia: that would be rather amazing.  Ill visit the project page and see if theres any news
[10:12] <lskd-255> here we go .......... <slept> is there no canadian ubuntu mirror ?
[10:12] <ikonia> Phopsy: does your card support wep in linux
[10:12] <NET||abuse>  slept: i mean booting up with Load glx in xorg.conf, yes booting X, but with glx enabled, causes black screen
[10:12] <godhell> jcole; why can't we take it here instead? it doesnt seem to work
[10:12] <ikonia> baegle__: will no plans for an update that I'm aware of
[10:12] <Phopsy> Ikonia: How would I check that out?
[10:13] <slept> lskd-255, ? and is there one ?
[10:13] <ikonia> Phopsy: check the hardware compatability of that card
[10:13] <NET||abuse> slept: just rebooted after trying to modprobe -r fglrx, didn't work, still crashes
[10:13] <bXi> NET||abuse: what error do you get?
[10:13] <bXi> something like http://bluepunk.110mb.com/error.txt ?
[10:13] <ikonia> NET||abuse: modprove fglrx won't work as you said you removed it
[10:13] <lskd-255> canada country code is ca ............ 1) mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/mirror/ubuntu.com   2) mirror.arcticnetwork.ca/pub/ubuntu/packages   2)  gulus.USherbrooke.ca/pub/distro/ubuntu
[10:13] <NET||abuse> bXi: no error, there is just a crash, normal warnings (can't find external monitor disabled ddc
[10:14] <slept> NET||abuse, if you reboot the module will be loaded again
[10:14] <ikonia> lskd-255: do you have a question ?
[10:14] <NET||abuse> slept: yes, i want to stop it being loaded... how can i?
[10:14] <Dumbalien> any help ?
[10:14] <lecrucious> i'm inside of parted and it says for filesystem types it can do ext2, fat32, fat16, and swap. is that it or has it just not been updated?
[10:14] <lskd-255> ikonia, no, I'm answering your questions
[10:14] <ikonia> lskd-255: I didn't have a question
[10:14] <jcole> godhell: http://jcole.org/godhell.png
[10:14] <jcole> godhell: ok
[10:14] <Dumbalien> what does a padlock mean over a folder
[10:14] <slept> NET||abuse, cat /var/log/Xorg....
[10:14] <jcole> godhell: do you have a livecd?
[10:15] <ikonia> Dumbalien: you don't have permissions to enter it
[10:15] <alecjw> lecrucious, you need to install addons for other filesystems (i think) or at least, you do in gparted
[10:15] <lskd-255> eau contrare
[10:15] <Phopsy> Ikonia: According to the hardware spec it's capable of up to 256-Bit WEP encryption.
[10:15] <ikonia> Phopsy: in linux ?
[10:15] <godhell> jcole; yes
[10:15] <Dumbalien> i just mounted it
[10:15] <jharr> is there a good website on changing key bindings?
[10:15] <Phopsy> Ikonia: Naturally, I'm unsure of that...It doesn't say anything about an operating system
[10:15] <jharr> I want to turn my caps lock into something useful.
[10:15] <ikonia> Phopsy: you need to google it
[10:15] <lecrucious> is there a good howto somewhere on using parted
[10:16] <Dumbalien> windows ntfs, viewd folders on hd and now i cant get in again
[10:16] <Phopsy> Ikonia: Good scheme.
[10:16] <godhell> jcole, tell me what to do..
[10:16] <jcole> godhell: if you cannot boot into ubuntu, boot from the livecd
[10:16] <ikonia> Phopsy: sorry - just so much time is wasted then at the end the user said "oooh its not supported in linux"
[10:16] <godhell> jcole, it works to boot the live cd
[10:16] <Assargadon> Hi
[10:16] <Yodude> :)hey guys i need some help with mounting my disk on edgy
[10:16] <ikonia> Yodude: just ask the question
[10:16] <ikonia> cut to the chase
[10:16] <baegle__> Hmmmm, the new thinkpads come with the e1000 nic. From what I've found, the e1000 support in 2.6.17 kernel is not great, and I'm having serious problems with it. I'm also told that later kernel versions support the e1000 better. Without plans for an upgrade to a new kernel version, what's the best way to resolve this issue?
[10:17] <erUSUL> lecrucious: use mkpart inside parted and then use the varius mkfs.* to make the fs you want
[10:17] <NET||abuse> slept: ok cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log   what am i looking for?
[10:17] <slept> the first error
[10:17] <ikonia> baegle__: 1.) stop asking in here - your not using ubuntu 2.) the E1000's are supported fine at a base level
[10:17] <godhell> jcole; booted up the live cd, what now?
[10:17] <slept> (EE)
[10:17] <Yodude> ok, in dapper drake i used to add lines to pmount.allow then mount the partitions manually from Places-Computer
[10:17] <Yodude> however
[10:17] <jcole> godhell: do a "sudo fdisk -l" and paste it into #flood
[10:17] <NET||abuse> slept: no (EE) lines
[10:18] <Yodude> in edgy i can't do this because i don't see any partitions in Places-Computer!
[10:18] <erUSUL> baegle__: "Without plans for an upgrade to a new kernel version" there is no way to resolve the isuue if it is true that the kernel is the culprit
[10:18] <jcole> godhell: or pastebin.ca
[10:18] <Yodude> i went to this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[10:18] <double> ikonia: the graphic installer crashes everytime i try to load dapper or degy on my vectra Pent III.  What to do?
[10:18] <godhell> jcole, pastebin.ca is prob better becouse i can't get into irc on that comp as far as i know
[10:18] <ikonia> double: boot safe graphics mode, or use the alternate cd
[10:18] <jcole> godhell: ok, sounds good
[10:18] <double> ikonia: alternate disc or ROM?
[10:19] <ikonia> rom ?
[10:19] <Yodude> but i don't understand what they said
[10:19] <ikonia> double: cd
[10:19] <soundray> I have a spot of trouble compiling a program with cmake. It complains about errors in CMakeLists.txt, giving me messages like 'cannot find target "binarize" to install' errors.
[10:19] <sess> Is there an ubuntu howto on getting a NON Wacom tablet working?  I have a genius pensketch 9x12 that I want to use, if it helps its recognized as a regular tablet in windows (like a tablet pc's tablet) I don't even care about pressure settings if I can get the pen to work at all I'd be happy.  right now the puck works fine but the pen doesn't register
[10:19] <double> I burned a new one and checked the disk.  No errors.  what now?
[10:19] <Yodude> they told me: look through the list which was just created. For every location ('/media/windows'), run the following command.
[10:19] <Yodude> ls /media/windows
[10:19] <Niklas_E> is there any file like .xsession that gdm reads when you login so you can write the application that should start when you login in it?
[10:19] <ikonia> double: no - burn a cd from the alternate CD image - OR use the current image and use safe graphics mode
[10:20] <Randomtime> godhell: this is irc
[10:20] <slept> NET||abuse, if you cat  it you wont see the whole file ... either do | less or | grep EE
[10:20] <erUSUL> Niklas_E: Use System>Preferences>sesion
[10:20] <soundray> Niklas_E: why not add your program to System-Preferences-Session-Startup Programs ?
[10:20] <Yodude> so anyone can help?
[10:20] <ikonia> Yodude: just mount them
[10:21] <godhell> Randomtime; no shit?
[10:21] <ikonia> godhell: language !
[10:21] <Niklas_E> well I use enlightenment and I can't do that
[10:21] <erUSUL> Niklas_E: or ~/.Xsession iirc
[10:21] <AXiOM_> has anyone got the Intel Corporation 82801DB PRO/100 Ve (MOB) Ethernet Controller working in 6.10??!?!?!?1?
[10:21] <Randomtime> godhell: yeah
[10:21] <double> ikonia: i'll try safe graphics mode (again) because I dont know how to burn a cd from the alternate cd image
[10:21] <Randomtime> bye
[10:21] <NET||abuse> slept: yes yes,, i do cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE or WW
[10:21] <NET||abuse> it's fine, no errors
[10:21] <ubuntuNOOB> Anyway you can find out your Video card without ripping your system open?
[10:21] <Yodude> hello!!! help please!
[10:21] <ikonia> double: you download the alternate cd iamge from ubuntu.com and burn it like any other cd image
[10:21] <ikonia> Yodude: mount the partitions ?
[10:21] <ferret_0567> My nick is "ferret_0567", right?
[10:21] <Yodude> yes i'm not knowing how to do that in edgy
[10:22] <ikonia> pooh not ferret_0567 again
[10:22] <soundray> AXiOM_: sounds like it should work with the eepro100 module. What's the problem?
[10:22] <slept> NET||abuse, when it crashes there must be an error
[10:22] <Beverage> hey folks whats the best performace/graphic wise music player for ubuntu?
[10:22] <ikonia> Yodude: place ---> connect to server
[10:22] <Yodude> yes then what
[10:22] <ikonia> Beverage: music players play music - not graphics
[10:22] <AXiOM_> soundray: basically, it won't work? Eh.... I'm trying to figure out how to use it with my WPA connection
[10:22] <ferret_0567> Does anybody know where to get a package for MadWifi on Ubuntu 6.10?
[10:22] <ikonia> Yodude: select the server and share
[10:22] <double> ikonia: thanks, i'll try it. btw, do you know if i can use xchat on a mac?
[10:22] <godhell> jcole; i think it halted, any idea how to close firefox by force? Can't open any windows it just halted
[10:23] <NET||abuse> slept: ok, i don't know,, i get a blank screen and i'm unable to change to any other virtual console (ctrl+alt+Fx), so i don't know what to call that,, a crash, a hang.... what??
[10:23] <AXiOM_> soundray: it's not really responding
[10:23] <Yodude> share what?
[10:23] <Beverage> ikonia: i know i meant graphics like cool factor...you know looks pretty =D
[10:23] <ikonia> double: no idea - I don't run makes
[10:23] <NET||abuse> slept: there's no other option that to hard shutdown
[10:23] <ikonia> Yodude: the network share
[10:23] <soundray> AXiOM_: you want WPA on a wired connection?
[10:23] <ikonia> Beverage: thats just personal opinion
[10:23] <agliv5_> greetings :) is there a command line option to burn multisesion DVDs?
[10:23] <AXiOM_> soundray:  no no lol
[10:23] <Beverage> ikonia: well what do you suggest ?
[10:23] <AXiOM_> soundray:  wireless of course
[10:23] <Yodude> what service type is that?
[10:23] <ikonia> Beverage: totem, xine, vlc,
[10:23] <Niklas_E> tnx
[10:23] <slept> NET||abuse, try to reconfigure your xserver via dpkg-reconfigure
[10:23] <Beverage> ikonia: thanksd
[10:24] <soundray> AXiOM_: that device you named is a wired NIC to the best of my knowledge
[10:24] <ikonia> Yodude: depends what the server is sharing with
[10:24] <xixor> Does anyone happen to know if microsoft wireless keyboard/mice have linux support?  I have a microsoft wireless keyboard/mouse 700, but couldn't find any information on google
[10:24] <Yodude> i
[10:24] <AXiOM_> oh
[10:24] <redbox> xixor: they should work fine
[10:24] <NET||abuse> slept: ok, i'll try that,, i'll be afk for 10 minutes
[10:24] <Yodude> 'm not sharing anything i would just like to mount my partitions
[10:24] <Kuriyaki> Am I able to access my hard drive using the boot CD for Ubuntu?
[10:24] <ikonia> Yodude: is this a local disk or network disk ?
[10:24] <alecjw> xixor, yes. they're supported, but some of the function keys on the keyboard might not work
[10:24] <double> ikonia: is there such a thing as a private chat on irc channels?
[10:24] <ferret_0567> I have a Atheros-based D-Link DWL-G650 Wireless G CardBus adapter coming in the mail
[10:24] <ikonia> double: yes
[10:24] <juano> Kuriyaki: yes you can\
[10:25] <Kuriyaki> When Ubuntu tried partitioning my hard drive...it corrupted my hard drive
[10:25] <Kuriyaki> So now I can't start it up at all...
[10:25] <AXiOM_> soundray: i copied the wrong thing, soorryyy. Actually what I meant was my Intel Corp. PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI , i believe
[10:25] <ikonia> Kuriyaki: shock horror
[10:25] <slyfox> Help. I have a file ending in ".chm" HTML help file, what in Linux can open it ?
[10:25] <ferret_0567> ...so I would like to know how to setup MadWifi with a package, if possible
[10:25] <double> ikonia: how do you set it up?
[10:25] <Yodude> local disk
[10:25] <ikonia> double: /chat $user
[10:25] <Yodude> so?
[10:25] <Kuriyaki> So I just want to recover my files...and restore my computer to factory settings
[10:25] <xixor> redbox, alecjw: ok, so they should just work like any normal usb/keyboard mouse then, except for the special buttons
[10:25] <juano> Yodude: fdisk -l pastebin
[10:25] <Kuriyaki> How do I access the files on my hard drive through Ubuntu?
[10:25] <redbox> xixor: yep
[10:25] <soundray> AXiOM_: are you on edgy?
[10:25] <AXiOM_> soundray: yes
[10:25] <IcemanV9> ferret_0567: i have it. it's a great adapter. no problem with it ever since i brought it.
[10:25] <juano> Yodude: what disk you trying to munt ?
[10:26] <soundray> !wpa | AXiOM_
[10:26] <ubotu> AXiOM_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:26] <juano> Yodude: mount*
[10:26] <ferret_0567> Cool
[10:26] <soundray> AXiOM_: oh, it links to the basic wireless stuff.
[10:26] <StikkitJim> anyone got  a sec? :E
[10:26] <Yodude> two disks the NTFS (C in windows) and the FAT32 (D in windows)
[10:26] <ferret_0567> Now how do you setup MadWifi? Or does Ubuntu include a kernel module for it already?
[10:26] <soundray> AXiOM_: have you read the wpa docs in /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant?
[10:26] <IcemanV9> !ask
[10:26] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:26] <Yodude> two partitions actually
[10:26] <juano> Yodude: ok, sudo fdisk -l and pastebin
[10:26] <AXiOM_> soundray:  no
[10:26] <ikonia> StikkitJim: just ask the quesiton
[10:26] <IcemanV9> ferret_0567: it works out of box
[10:27] <Phopsy> Ikonia: Remember me? :)
[10:27] <ikonia> Phopsy: I do
[10:27] <soundray> ferret_0567: madwifi should work out of the box with the linux-restricted-modules package
[10:27] <ferret_0567> Whoa, too cool
[10:27] <Phopsy> I found that more or less that chipset is supported.
[10:27] <Yodude> Disk /dev/hda: 61.4 GB, 61492838400 bytes
[10:27] <Yodude> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 7476 cylinders
[10:27] <Yodude> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[10:27] <Yodude>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[10:27] <Yodude> /dev/hda1   *           1        3769    30274461    7  HPFS/NTFS
[10:27] <Yodude> /dev/hda2            3770        7476    29776477+   f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[10:27] <soundray> AXiOM_: those would probably help
[10:27] <Yodude> /dev/hda5            3770        7476    29776446    b  W95 FAT32
[10:27] <ikonia> Yodude: stop
[10:27] <ferret_0567> Great
[10:27] <juano> Yodude: !pastebin
[10:27] <StikkitJim> trying to install ubuntu on the macbook pro... grub failed to install as expected... when i apt-get install lilo lilo-docs, i get this error: E: Package lilo has no installation candidate
[10:27] <ikonia> don't flood the channel
[10:27] <IcemanV9> ferret_0567: with hoary, i had to install madwifi manually, but since breezy to now, it works out of the box. :)
[10:27] <double> ikonia: i am trying to figure out the private chat protocol.  did you receive the invite?
[10:27] <juano> !pastebin | Yodude
[10:27] <AXiOM_> soundray: i'll give it a try
[10:27] <ubotu> Yodude: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:27] <Yodude> where is that pastebin!
[10:27] <hupp3l> hey guys. i tried ot install my bcm43xx driver but now my ubuntu won't even start up
[10:27] <sakobatoneko> how can i get my panels back
[10:28] <ikonia> double: no, but that could be because I don't accept unrequested invites
[10:28] <erUSUL> !paste > Yodude
[10:28] <alecjw> xixor, yes. the function buttons will proably work, but might not
[10:28] <Yodude> ok
[10:28] <Yodude> 1sec gonna paste there
[10:28] <OCgraphikz> im new to ubuntu, i am having trouble trying to get my internet drivers loaded
[10:28] <xixor> alecjw: that is cool, I don't really use them anyway
[10:28] <ikonia> internet drivers ?
[10:28] <Kuriyaki> So how do I access my files?
[10:28] <juano> Yodude: add this line to your /etc/fstab
[10:28] <ikonia> OCgraphikz: what are internet drivers ?
[10:28] <OCgraphikz> yup
[10:28] <juano> Yodude: /dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs-3g        auto,rw,exec,users,dmask=000,fmask=111,nls=utf8  0       0
[10:28] <lmosher> Azureus isn't working well. I think something is up w/ JRE. I thought that was automatically installed, shouldn't apt have taken care of it?
[10:28] <OCgraphikz> nic card
[10:28] <lmosher> Azureus isn't working well = won't start :)
[10:28] <ferret_0567> How big is your house IcemanV9? I am wondering how good a signal you get with that card.
[10:28] <juano> Yodude: first do sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[10:28] <double> ikonia: i dont even know how to set that option.  is that a default position or did you set it yourself?
[10:29] <ikonia> I set it
[10:29] <double> hwy
[10:29] <dimeo> ubuntu ... to the universe and beyond!
[10:29] <IcemanV9> double: you need to register with freenode to have PM
[10:29] <juano> Yodude: then add that line i told you
[10:29] <double> i mean "why"
[10:29] <Yodude> no no wait i'm on LiveCd for now i didn't install
[10:29] <ikonia> double: because I don't want people asking me to chat with out me agreeing
[10:29] <ferret_0567> To thwart spammers
[10:29] <sakobatoneko> bugreport  popped up can i closed it and me panels were gone
[10:29] <OCgraphikz> ubuntu is refusing to open my flash drive though
[10:29] <double> icemancometh: what is PM?
[10:29] <IcemanV9> ferret_0567: 2 story. it works excellent. it works at the library as well.
[10:29] <Yodude> if you could just explain this page toi me then it's very good https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[10:29] <sakobatoneko> bugreport  popped up andi closed it and me panels were gone
[10:29] <ikonia> double: priviate message, but this channel is not about IRC chat lessons
[10:30] <IcemanV9> double: PM == private message
[10:30] <double> ikonia: you could always say no or ignore it
[10:30] <juano> Yodude: what you want to do actually ?
[10:30] <sakobatoneko> bugreport  popped up and i closed it and me panels were gone*
[10:30] <hupp3l> would someone please help me out. ubuntu freezes as it starts loading
[10:30] <ikonia> double: or I could just block them all apart from the ones I agree to
[10:30] <IcemanV9> s/story/stories
[10:30] <ikonia> double: that technique seems to work well for me
[10:30] <Yodude> i just want to mount my windows partitions
[10:30] <Yodude> on LiveCD
[10:30] <juano> Yodude: from live cd ?
[10:30] <ikonia> Yodude: mount /dev/sda1 /media/windows
[10:30] <Logite> Hey guys
[10:30] <Yodude> yes i used to be able to do that in dapper
[10:30] <soundray> "Cannot find target" errors in CMakeLists.txt -- how do I track those down?
[10:31] <Logite> When I try to install the AbiWord package it gives me this error
[10:31] <Logite> Checking for required C library versions ... OK
[10:31] <Logite> Checking for Standard C++ library ... OK
[10:31] <Logite> Checking for popt command line arguments parser ... OK
[10:31] <Logite> Checking for libpng graphics library ... OK
[10:31] <Logite> Checking for GTK+ user interface toolkit ... OK
[10:31] <Logite> Checking for XML processing library ... OK
[10:31] <Logite> Checking for Glade user interface loader library ... OK
[10:31] <Logite> Checking for GConf Configuration Framework ... OK
[10:31] <Logite> Checking for Bonobo Component Model ... OK
[10:31] <ikonia> STOP !
[10:31] <erUSUL> Logite: stop!!
[10:31] <Logite> Checking for GNOME User Interface Library ... OK
[10:31] <Music_Shuffle> .............lololol.
[10:31] <Logite> Checking for The Independent JPEG Group's JPEG runtime library ... OK
[10:31] <ikonia> don't flood the channel
[10:31] <IcemanV9> !ops
[10:31] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[10:31] <Logite> Checking for Unicode character map ... failed
[10:31] <Logite> -------------------------------
[10:31] <double> ikonia: good point. that's why i wanted a PM, so i could ask some questions not relevant to this channel's topic
[10:31] <Logite> Error: Package 'Unicode character map' was found but was of the wrong version and the correct version could not be located.
[10:31] <Logite> [IV 4.0 for @gnome.org/libgucharmap] 
[10:31] <Music_Shuffle> Rofllllllll
[10:31] <juano> Yodude: well then sudo mkdir /mnt/windows1
[10:31] <ikonia> tonyyarusso: thank you
[10:31] <Kuriyaki> How may I access my files on my hardrive through Ubuntu?
[10:31] <OCgraphikz> anyway
[10:31] <Music_Shuffle> Moments like that make it all worth it :P
[10:31] <juano> Yodude: then sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows1
[10:32] <sakobatoneko> some one help me
[10:32] <StikkitJim> anyone got ideas for macbook pro assface of a problem?
[10:32] <Yodude> wait it told me mount point /media/windows does not exist
[10:32] <tonyyarusso> Logite: We need to wait for your buffer to clear, then you can talk again.  Meanwhile, look up the !pastebin
[10:32] <ikonia> Yodude: he JUST told you to make it
[10:32] <Yodude> k
[10:32] <juano> thanks ikonia :-)
[10:32] <Jtabs> who do you ask if you have a question?
[10:32] <MrWGW-> good afternoon
[10:32] <ikonia> Jtabs: just ask
[10:32] <StikkitJim> lol
[10:32] <IcemanV9> !ask
[10:32] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:32] <soundray> StikkitJim: you need to describe the problem, and leave out the expletives.
[10:32] <MrWGW-> I don't suppose any of you know of any GPLed music composition software that works well on Ubuntu?
[10:32] <lskd-255> jtabs,you freakin post the quesion
[10:33] <hjmills> Jtabs, you ask the world and hope somebody notices and answers
[10:33] <juano> Yodude: sudo mkdir /mnt/windows1
[10:33] <sakobatoneko> how can i get the panels to work
[10:33] <ikonia> lskd-255: no need for that
[10:33] <Jtabs> I installed ubuntu and everything and it told me to take out th disc and press enter, i did and it says no OS on boot up
[10:33] <juano> Yodude: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows1
[10:33] <Jtabs> happened a number of times i dont know what happened or what i did wrong
[10:33] <silenoth> motd
[10:33] <double> ubotu: can I ask a question?  (just kidding)
[10:33] <hupp3l> my ubuntu just freezes while booting it started doing this after I extracted bcm43xx firmware
[10:33] <lskd-255> ikonia, playin' the schoolmarm again?
[10:33] <Kuriyaki> How do I access the files I have in my hard drive through the Ubuntu Boot CD?
[10:33] <ikonia> Jtabs: looks like it either installed grub to the wrong disk, or it didn't install
[10:33] <hjmills> Jtabs, how many hard drives do you have and is the one you installed ubuntu on the first boot device?
[10:33] <silenoth> hola
[10:33] <silenoth> hi
[10:33] <ikonia> lskd-255: no - I just don't think its alled for
[10:33] <ikonia> called
[10:33] <Jtabs> its a laptop, there is the one hd
[10:34] <juano> be back in an hour
[10:34] <lskd-255> alled?
[10:34] <silenoth> ??
[10:34] <OCgraphikz> called
[10:34] <lskd-255> is that Brit speak?
[10:34] <hjmills> Jtabs, as ikonia said then - just check the hard drive is in the boot order and you didnt swap it for the cd drive
[10:34] <silenoth> what a fuck?
[10:34] <double> anyone available for a PM to answer some Edgy install questions for a nubie?
[10:34] <StikkitJim> soundray: sorry mate :) - trying to install ubuntu on the macbook pro... grub failed to install as expected... when i apt-get install lilo lilo-docs, i get this error: E: Package lilo has no installation candidate
[10:34] <PriceChild> !ohmy | silenoth
[10:34] <erUSUL> Kuriyaki: mount the partitions something like 'sudo mount -t ntfs -o users /dev/xxxx /mnt/'
[10:34] <ubotu> silenoth: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:34] <Yodude> but hey why doesn't the icond of the partition just show up on Places-Computer like in dapper?
[10:34] <Yodude> that's much easier
[10:34] <OCgraphikz> is there a specific reason why ubuntu does not read my flash drive?
[10:34] <OCgraphikz> it sees it
[10:34] <CBinGR> anyone here give me a hand with setting up wifi with a ipw3945 card?
[10:34] <ikonia> double: just ask in the channel
[10:34] <silenoth> ups!
[10:34] <IcemanV9> !mount | Kuriyaki
[10:34] <Jtabs> im going to try and intall it again so i can tell you word for word what i do
[10:34] <ubotu> Kuriyaki: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[10:34] <silenoth> sorry
[10:35] <pbureau> CBinGR: so I take it did not work ?
[10:35] <hupp3l> any help would be really appreciated, i dont want to reinstall ubuntu even though there is probably an easy fix
[10:35] <double> Ikonia:
[10:35] <CBinGR> you are here lol, pbureau nope
[10:35] <Kuriyaki> The partitioning reformatted my computer so I can't log on to Windows anymore
[10:35] <soundray> StikkitJim: did you install a partition map with bootcamp?
[10:35] <ikonia> double: what ?
[10:35] <proj> hey people. going through https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro (for only dual boot) when I get to the stage where I run parted I get an error about not being able to read the label on hda. Can anyone illuminate this a bit better? I'm happy to keep reading, I just can't find very much on this issue.
[10:35] <IcemanV9> !ask | hupp3l
[10:35] <pbureau> you know where to go... :) jump over
[10:35] <ubotu> hupp3l: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:35] <ikonia> Kuriyaki: then your disk is gone
[10:35] <Kuriyaki> I want to recover my files using this ubuntu Boot cd so I just want to know how to access my files through here
[10:36] <ikonia> Kuriyaki: if you've formated your drive - its gone
[10:36] <hjmills> is the latest beryl much slower or is it just me?
[10:36] <Music_Shuffle> Kuriyaki, recover the files you just...reformatted over?
[10:36] <hupp3l> I asked it three times already and just waited for an answer but it gets missed
[10:36] <sid> I have some old(98) .wmv files, 5.5 gigs in total. I wanted to convert them to mpeg-2 and make a DVD with a simple menu to choose one of the files our of 12.
[10:36] <sid> What is a good software to do this with?
[10:36] <Kuriyaki> Well...hmm
[10:36] <Kuriyaki> The files are there
[10:36] <hupp3l> the only way to get attention is by asking to ask
[10:36] <OCgraphikz> is there a specific reason why ubuntu does not read my flash drive, but ubuntu does notice that it is plugged in.
[10:36] <ikonia> hupp3l: perhaps people are fed up with you asking 3 times
[10:36] <Music_Shuffle> hjmills, seems ok for me, but I dunno, mebbe.
[10:36] <double> ikonia: that was an error. I cant get the graphic installer to run without crashing for dapper or edgy on my vectra pent III 933gHz, 512 RAM, 80gHD.  should i use the text mode?
[10:36] <hjmills> Kuriyaki, you need some specialist recovery if you formatted the drive
[10:36] <Kuriyaki> Just the startup files were altered
[10:36] <ikonia> double: I told you to boot the alternative cd image
[10:36] <Kuriyaki> so it doesn't start normally
[10:36] <mabus> Where can I read the errors that I got during boot?
[10:36] <IcemanV9> hupp3l: see !repeat
[10:36] <hjmills> Music_Shuffle, it used to be fine but now opening windows and things is v laggy
[10:37] <StikkitJim> soundray: I installed bootcamp and the efi bootloader, and give 50 gig to mac os x. With the remaining space, I used the  ubuntu live cd installer to make a 2gig swap and the rest for the file system.
[10:37] <soundray> proj: a disklabel is like a partitioning scheme. Apart from the widely available DOS type, there are Mac, BSD and Sun disklabels
[10:37] <hupp3l> !repeat
[10:37] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:37] <Kuriyaki> Even Ubuntu recognizes that my drive has 100gb of files
[10:37] <Tessa> does anyone know what i have to enter in the xorg.conf so that openbox uses german keyboard layout with keys for accents
[10:37] <ikonia> Kuriyaki: so then its mounted
[10:37] <Kuriyaki> How do I access those files then?
[10:37] <hjmills> Kuriyaki, if you can see the partition table then mount the partition you need to copy data off and copy it to somewhere else - flash drive etc
[10:37] <ikonia> Kuriyaki: click on the disk image on the desktop
[10:37] <double> ikonia: my mistake.  i'll be back tonight with the nick doubleA. Thanks for the help.
[10:37] <NET||abuse> ok, trying to dpkg-reconfigure xserver, now what is the package name i need to speicifgy for dpkg-reconfigure??
[10:37] <hupp3l> hmm did not even know that existed. i did not mean to be a pain in the ass
[10:38] <ikonia> NET||abuse: xserver-xorg
[10:38] <erUSUL> NET||abuse: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[10:38] <hupp3l> but this is quite frustrating
[10:38] <Kuriyaki> There is no disk image on the desktop
[10:38] <ikonia> Kuriyaki: I can't be botherd
[10:38] <soundray> StikkitJim: I suggest you run the live CD and install GRUB to the *partition* (not the MBR). Then you should be able to choose your OS by holding the option key during boot.
[10:39] <Jtabs> how do i check if the hd is in the correct boot order oO
[10:39] <Kuriyaki> I'm really sorry for bothering you but this partitioning caused my computer to fail...
[10:39] <OCgraphikz> that is one crappy wiki
[10:39] <Jtabs> f8 right
[10:39] <NET||abuse> ikonia: haha, sorry, i just screwed up the command before, thanks
[10:39] <hjmills> Kuriyaki, just let me thing...
[10:39] <ikonia> NET||abuse: no problem
[10:39] <Music_Shuffle> Jtabs, change boot order in the bios...?
[10:39] <Jtabs> yea
[10:39] <ikonia> Kuriyaki: how do you know ubuntu sees the files on the windows disk ?
[10:39] <Jtabs> it goes right to "missing os"
[10:40] <hjmills> Kuriyaki, is it an ide or sata drive and how many partitons and how many hard drives do you have?
[10:40] <CheshireViking> I have a dual boot system with win xp on a 40gb hd0 and ubuntu on the whole of an 80gb hd1, i want to free up space on hd1 (say 60gb) so that i can install some different versions of linux to try, will gparted safely shrink the partition so that i can use the free space?
[10:40] <Gc00> ok, basic question - how do I revoke a write-protection on a directory / file?
[10:40] <Gc00> especially if it's only temporary
[10:40] <ikonia> hjmills: its already mounted as he's just told us ubuntu can see the files
[10:40] <hjmills> ikonia, good point - thnaks
[10:40] <Kuriyaki> Through Gparted
[10:40] <hjmills> ahhh
[10:40] <Kuriyaki> It states I have three partitions
[10:40] <Jtabs> it just says Missing OS and doesnt show bios
[10:40] <ikonia> gparted can see files ?
[10:40] <Music_Shuffle> ...
[10:40] <ikonia> Kuriyaki: thats partitoins no files
[10:40] <Kuriyaki> One is using 100 gbs
[10:40] <StikkitJim> soundray: the grub bootloader fails to install (as decribed at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro. When booting the EFI bootloader, it asks to choose between os x and the linux installation... but then lilo boots from that partition
[10:41] <Music_Shuffle> The BIOS-entering bit is done before the OS bit.
[10:41] <hjmills> Kuriyaki, in gparted what does it say the partition is called? should be /dev/sda1 or /dev/hda1 or something
[10:41] <AXiOM_> is /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant  non-existent in the live state of 6.10?
[10:41] <soundray> CheshireViking: yes. gparted is reasonably safe, but backup your data anyway, to protect yourself in case there's a power failure while gparted is working.
[10:41] <Jtabs> i hit f10 and it just goes right to Missing os
[10:41] <Jtabs> tried it 5x
[10:41] <hjmills> ikonia, he can see it has stuff on so he knows its there  - should be recoverable
[10:41] <ikonia> hjmills: but he told me he formated the drive ?
[10:41] <Music_Shuffle> Jtabs, is f10 the bios key?
[10:41] <StikkitJim> soundray: the E: Package lilo has no installation candidate   message says to me that its a repo problem?
[10:41] <Kuriyaki> It says /dev/sda1 and 2
[10:41] <Jtabs> it says f10 for boot menu
[10:41] <Kuriyaki> and one unallocated
[10:41] <hjmills> Jtabs, to get into the bios? you are hitting it too late then - press repeatedly from startup
[10:42] <Jtabs> i hit f8 aswell and got nothing
[10:42] <Music_Shuffle> Uh
[10:42] <Music_Shuffle> Try delete.
[10:42] <Gc00> Basic question - how do I revoke a write-protection on a directory / file?
[10:42] <hjmills> Kuriyaki, which has the files on
[10:42] <soundray> StikkitJim: if you're sure you want to try lilo, it's a matter of installing it from the right repository:
[10:42] <double> I just tried to boot the Edgy CD and got CRC error system halted. what does that mean?
[10:42] <soundray> !info lilo | StikkitJim
[10:42] <ubotu> lilo: LInux LOader - The Classic OS loader can load Linux and others. In component main, is optional. Version 1:22.6.1-7ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 335 kB, installed size 1072 kB
[10:42] <hjmills> ikonia, maybe he didnt know the meaning of that or something - worth a try to get it off i guess
[10:42] <Jtabs> i hit it nonsotp and nothing still
[10:42] <ikonia> Gc00: chmod 760
[10:42] <Music_Shuffle> Or really, just run your hands over the entire f row or something from when you press the poewr button, until it loads into the bios screen
[10:42] <Kuriyaki> sda1
[10:42] <Jtabs> compag screen flashes then right to missing os
[10:42] <ikonia> hjmills: if he doesn't know if he's formatted what chance has he got of recovering ?
[10:42] <CheshireViking> soundray: thanks for that, the ubuntu install is only my test install anyway, so if it goes down, its not am problem, i'll go with gparted & see how i get on
[10:42] <hjmills> Jtabs, try the del key?
[10:42] <Kuriyaki> Look it didn't reformat
[10:43] <boci^> Yeah
[10:43] <Assargadon> I just install my first desctop Linux. Now I try to force my DVD to play. I install libdvdcss, but Totem still say "There are no URI handler" (autostrat) and "No needed modules" (manual start). What I need to do?
[10:43] <hjmills> ikonia, i dont know but im prepared  to give it a go - it may rescue some important data
[10:43] <boci^> Bug reported...
[10:43] <Kuriyaki> I was using my computer just fine until my computer gave me errors telling me to restart and scan disk
[10:43] <ikonia> hjmills: good on you
[10:43] <Kuriyaki> After Ubuntu did the partitioning
[10:43] <ikonia> hjmills: I smell a rt
[10:43] <ikonia> rat
[10:43] <Jtabs> del key did nothing aswell
[10:43] <Kuriyaki> The files were there
[10:43] <hjmills> ikonia, i cant solve my windows problem so i may as well help others while my pc does stupid stuff
[10:43] <Kuriyaki> Once I restarted I couldn't log on normally
[10:43] <ikonia> hjmills: great attitude
[10:43] <OCgraphikz> lol
[10:43] <hjmills> Kuriyaki, what version of windows?
[10:43] <Jtabs> well this is fucked up
[10:43] <ikonia> Kuriyaki: did it crash on windows or ubuntu ?
[10:44] <Kuriyaki> XP
[10:44] <ikonia> Jtabs: watch the language
[10:44] <double> ikonia: i just tried to boot the Edgy CD and for CRC error system halted.  what does that mean?
[10:44] <Kuriyaki> It crashed Windows
[10:44] <ikonia> double: means the image probably didn't burn
[10:44] <Music_Shuffle> Jtabs, you're not doing something right to enter the BIOS then.
[10:44] <ikonia> Kuriyaki: ok - thats nothing to do with ubuntu then
[10:44] <Jtabs> how
[10:44] <hjmills> Kuriyaki, ok - we are going to try and get the files off so i need to know what you are planning on putting them on then we are gonn save your install
[10:44] <Jtabs> i hit f8 and anyother key non stop
[10:44] <Jtabs> before it even starts
[10:44] <OCgraphikz> Is there a way to install the drivers for the Marvell Yukon from my flash drive, Ubuntu is recognizing that my flash drive exists, but it will not read the files
[10:44] <ikonia> Jtabs: is there no option at boot up that says "press F10 to enter the bios" or somethign like tht
[10:44] <Kuriyaki> After Ubuntu did the partitioning Windows operated with errors so I restarted and boom
[10:44] <hjmills> ikonia, prob needs a chkdsk but ill get the data safe first
[10:44] <double> ikonia: i checked the image on anther computer and ran 6.10 from the CD fine.
[10:44] <Jtabs> no there is one that says press f10 to see boot menu
[10:44] <Music_Shuffle> ikonia, when in doubt, its gotta be easier to blame it on the OS you know less about, right? Lol
[10:45] <Kuriyaki> Well I would probably need an external hard drive now
[10:45] <ikonia> double: probably hardware error then
[10:45] <ikonia> Music_Shuffle: with regard to what ?
[10:45] <soundray> OCgraphikz: can you rephrase that? What are you trying to do?
[10:45] <double> ikonia: does that mean the CD ROM most likely?  What else if not the CD ROM?
[10:45] <hupp3l> maybe this helps too. I get <0>kernel panic - not syncing: aiee, killing interrupt handler!
[10:45] <ikonia> double: ram, or the processor
[10:45] <hjmills> Kuriyaki, well i think we can rescue windows so lets get the real important stuff of first - do you have a flash disk
[10:45] <Kuriyaki> I can't access those files through Ubuntu's File Browser?
[10:45] <Music_Shuffle> Him relating it to an ubuntu issue, when really...its not so much
[10:45] <hjmills> Kuriyaki, do you know how to open a terminal?
[10:45] <Kuriyaki> Flash Disk? 1 gig thats it
[10:46] <Kuriyaki> Yes
[10:46] <erUSUL> hupp3l: a kernel panic is a serius bug in the kernel... you should report it
[10:46] <erUSUL> !bugs | hupp3l
[10:46] <ubotu> hupp3l: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[10:46] <ikonia> Music_Shuffle: its pretty cleear to me, he was using windows....it crashed, it asked for scan disk - it has corruption. How could that be anything to do with ubuntu
[10:46] <hjmills> Kuriyaki, ok - open a terminal and run "mkdir ~/windows" by typing it in and pressing return (i dont know how good you ubuntu knowledege is)
[10:46] <hupp3l> so, reinstall ubuntu?
[10:46] <Kuriyaki> ikonia - It happened right after I tried installing Ubuntu
[10:46] <soundray> I need some advice on cmake please -- I'm getting "Cannot find target" errors from CMakeLists.txt
[10:47] <Kuriyaki> Has very much to do with this...
[10:47] <ikonia> Kuriyaki: then why did you just say it happened in windows
[10:47] <OCgraphikz> I am trying to copy over the .bz2 in order to unzip it and install the drivers
[10:47] <zOap> how can I know what version of xfce I'm using?
[10:47] <hjmills> Kuriyaki, you don't know that - lets see if we can fix it before we blame stuff :D
[10:47] <ikonia> double: crc is normally cpu
[10:47] <zOap> fiorget it
[10:47] <OCgraphikz> When I try to open up my flash drive, it gives me an error
[10:47] <Kuriyaki> Ok I made the directory
[10:47] <soundray> OCgraphikz: what's the error?
[10:48] <OCgraphikz> agh let me try to remember
[10:48] <hjmills> double, when i had CRC errors it was the memory so run memtest86+
[10:48] <Hoosteen> ok...i got a question..i'm trying to install edgy now...when i boot the cd up..i have Install in text mode, Install in OEM mode, Install a command-line system...but no LiveCD install...what gives?
[10:48] <ikonia> hjmills: another good call
[10:48] <OCgraphikz> something about being mounted
[10:48] <Kuriyaki> Honestly...I'm not blaming Ubuntu...I'm just frustrated my computer doesn't function properly
[10:48] <Kuriyaki> X(
[10:48] <double> ikonia: tried booting again. now it says kernel panic not syncing
[10:48] <hjmills> Kuriyaki, now in the term can you run "sudo mount /dev/sda1 ~/windows"
[10:48] <OCgraphikz> no mounted files i think
[10:48] <xixor> I am just curious, is anyone running ubuntu on an IBM thinkpad laptop?  If so, how do you find power consumption in linux versus windows?
[10:48] <ikonia> double: hardware error
[10:48] <soundray> OCgraphikz: are you in Windows right now?
[10:48] <hjmills> ikonia, thanks - all my tinkering time pays off
[10:48] <OCgraphikz> currently, yes
[10:48] <double> hjmills: thanks.  how exactly do i do that?  i'm a computer dummy
[10:48] <OCgraphikz> i got no internet on ubuntu xD
[10:48] <ikonia> xixor: I have and its slightly better thn windows
[10:48] <hjmills> and working in a pc shop for a year at the moment cant be bad
[10:49] <ikonia> xixor: assuming both are on tick over
[10:49] <Hoosteen> any ideas?
[10:49] <Music_Shuffle> Hoosteen, which...disk did you get?
[10:49] <Kuriyaki> I typed sudo mount /dev/sda1 ~/windows
[10:49] <double> ikonia: $!@?  do i have to buy a new motherboard?
[10:49] <hjmills> double, google for memtest and see if you can download and burn it - you boot from the cd and it tests the RAM
[10:49] <xixor> ikonia: tick over?
[10:49] <Hoosteen> well i downloaded the 6.01_alternate torrent from Georgia Tech site
[10:49] <jrib> 6.01 doesn't exist
[10:49] <mon^rch> running beryl and a vista theme... keep forgetting I am in linux : D
[10:49] <Hoosteen> i mean the 6.10 :D
[10:49] <ikonia> double: I don't know - can't diagnose your hardware over the intenret
[10:49] <double> hjmills: thanks
[10:49] <adrenaline> Why do I have to be root to browse my lan in ubuntu?
[10:49] <hjmills> Kuriyaki, did you press return? if so what did it say
[10:49] <ArielKillHim> hello i just upgrade my computer (sudo apt-get dist-upgrade) and now my ndiswrapper is completely screwed up.  any ideas?
[10:49] <Music_Shuffle> Hoosteen, err...the alternate CD is supposed to be a text install I thought.
[10:50] <ikonia> xixor: doing nothing - eg: if they are both doing "stuff" it will effect the power usage
[10:50] <Kuriyaki> Nothing at all
[10:50] <Hoosteen> Music: d'oh!
[10:50] <xixor> ikonia: ah.. I am just reading about cpu frequency scaling having some issues in linux
[10:50] <jrib> Hoosteen: if you want a live cd, you need the "desktop cd"
[10:50] <double> ikonia and mills: thanks for all the help.  this is a cool way to communicate and i'll be back in the future.
[10:50] <Hoosteen> jrib: d'oh! ok...download again...lol
[10:50] <Music_Shuffle> Hoosteen, the regular one, the 'desktop' version, has the option to install from the LiveCD :P
[10:50] <Kuriyaki> mount: /dev/sda1 already mounted or /home/ubuntu/windows busy
[10:50] <Kuriyaki> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda1 is already mounted on /home/ubuntu/windows
[10:50] <soundray> OCgraphikz: why don't you save the driver package to C: ? Then in Ubuntu you can 'sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt ; cp /mnt/*.bz2 ~/Desktop'
[10:50] <ikonia> Hoosteen: which version of ubuntu where you trying to use
[10:50] <Hoosteen> 6.10
[10:51] <hjmills> Kuriyaki, ok - now open file manager and go to home then to the windows dir
[10:51] <OCgraphikz> Ubuntu doesn't see my C drive
[10:51] <ikonia> thank you
[10:51] <soundray> OCgraphikz: assuming that Windows is on the first partition of the first IDE drive
[10:51] <OCgraphikz> SATA
[10:51] <ikonia> OCgraphikz: thats very strange
[10:51] <xixor> ikonia: I have an X60 that usually gets 8 hours of battery life in xp, even while doing quite a bit of stuff including wifi
[10:51] <OCgraphikz> it sees my secondary SATA drive
[10:51] <ikonia> xixor: thats VERY good
[10:51] <Jtabs> so none knows huh
[10:51] <Kuriyaki> It says I don't have the permission necessary to open the folder
[10:51] <soundray> OCgraphikz: put it on your secondary drive from Windows then. Use ext2fsd if necessary
[10:51] <xixor> ikonia: its awesome :)  It has a very big battery, can't recall how many cells at the moment.. 9 or 12 cells I think
[10:52] <Gc00> ikonia: thanks - gotta learn those octal numbers by heart :)
[10:52] <ikonia> Jtabs: whats the question
[10:52] <xixor> ikonia: on a fresh battery if I stop doing things, sometimes it even says 11 hours remaining
[10:52] <hjmills> Kuriyaki, hmm - from a term just run "ls ~/windows"
[10:52] <Jtabs> why I cant get into bios or do anything
[10:52] <OCgraphikz> i got to mount my secondary drive
[10:52] <hjmills> Kuriyaki, if that shows your windows drive then its hopeful
[10:52] <Jtabs> its just right ot "missing OS"
[10:52] <Iceman> Could someone tell me what I need to change in the xorg.conf file to get a display on my laptop monitor?
[10:52] <Kuriyaki> Permission Denied
[10:52] <xixor> ikonia: but this long battery life is very important to me, essentially I don't carry around the ac adapter
[10:52] <hjmills> Kuriyaki, sorry - make that "sudo ls ~/windows"
[10:52] <ikonia> Jtabs: look up the internet the key sequence for accessing hte bios
[10:53] <Kuriyaki> My files and folders are displayed from my C:\ hardrive
[10:53] <Jtabs> i tried doing the sequence keys
[10:53] <aalhamad> how can i do a keyboard shortcut for applicaitons eg ( nautilis and gedit)???
[10:53] <hjmills> Kuriyaki, good - now try running "sudo nautilus --no-desktop"
[10:53] <blackduck3> hello
[10:53] <ikonia> Jtabs: what sequence keys, do you know they are the right ones
[10:53] <Jtabs> it kinda went to a differnt black screen but went to missing os
[10:53] <OCgraphikz> alright
[10:54] <OCgraphikz> hopefully ill be back on X-Chat from ubuntu
[10:54] <OCgraphikz> wish me luck
[10:54] <Jtabs> i tried f8 f2 f10 del all of witch worked before this
[10:54] <Kuriyaki> (nautilus:8120): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Failed to open session DBUS connection: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[10:54] <ikonia> Jtabs: you may have a hardware issue
[10:54] <aalhamad> how can i do a keyboard shortcut for applicaitons eg ( nautilis and gedit)???---------Help plz ............
[10:54] <willys_fueguino> @upgrade
[10:54] <soundray> Jtabs: check that your keyboard is connected properly
[10:54] <Jtabs> I dont understand how its hardware
[10:54] <hjmills> Kuriyaki, so it didnt open a nautilus window?
[10:54] <Kuriyaki> wait
[10:54] <willys_fueguino> !upgrade
[10:54] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[10:54] <Jtabs> this just happened when i tried to install ubuntu
[10:54] <soundray> aalhamad: don't repeat please
[10:54] <Jtabs> and i have a laptop
[10:54] <Kuriyaki> Now I can go to Home/Windows/ and view my files
[10:55] <Jtabs> so i know the keyboard works
[10:55] <ikonia> Jtabs: because if you can't access the bios with the once working keyboard sequence then it HAS to be bios
[10:55] <Jtabs> everytihng was fine untull i tried to put ubuntu on
[10:55] <aalhamad> soundray, sorry
[10:55] <blackduck3> can anyone help set up bit torrent plz ?
[10:55] <ikonia> Jtabs: ubuntu can't mess with the bios
[10:55] <Kuriyaki> :D
[10:55] <ikonia> so it has to be hardware
[10:55] <Jtabs> im aware
[10:55] <ikonia> or you have the wrong key sequence
[10:55] <Jtabs> thats why im rather shocked
[10:55] <hjmills> Kuriyaki, ok - now copy everything you dont have backed up onto the flash disk (or as much as will fit)
[10:55] <soundray> aalhamad: leave some time between asking if you don't get a reply immediately. People come and go. --- The 'Home' key should open nautilus already.
[10:56] <Kuriyaki> I know what to do from here
[10:56] <Kuriyaki> Thank you so much...
[10:56] <hjmills> Kuriyaki, good - thats ok - do you know how to run chkdsk?
[10:56] <Kuriyaki> Through Ubuntu?
[10:56] <aalhamad> soundray, where is the home key?
[10:56] <Kuriyaki> I was given instructions on how to do it
[10:56] <erUSUL> aalhamad: System>Preferences>Key Combinations ?? it seems abvious
[10:56] <hjmills> Kuriyaki, no - from the windows install cd
[10:56] <steel_lady> Is there some way or something to install, so I could enqueue songs in xmms without having to look for them through browse menu within the program?
[10:56] <Kuriyaki> but first I want to recover my files
[10:56] <Kuriyaki> before this goes more downhill
[10:56] <soundray> aalhamad: it's sometimes called Pos1 -- what layout do you have?
[10:56] <Jtabs> well i'm able to install it
[10:57] <Jtabs> im at the partition part
[10:57] <Kuriyaki> Can I burn DVD's through Ubuntu?
[10:57] <Odd_Bloke> Can anyone point me to a guide to getting NVidia drivers working under Ubuntu? My Googling has been in vain...
[10:57] <Jtabs> do i resize master, partition 1 had1 an use freed space
[10:57] <aalhamad> soundray, to comlicated for me.. and dont know
[10:57] <ikonia> !nvidia > Odd_Bloke
[10:57] <hjmills> Kuriyaki, yes - of course - but chkdsk should be able to recover the drive - boot from the XP install cd and go into recovery mode (R at the first prompt) then log on to your windows install and jsut run chkdsk /? to find out what to run
[10:57] <melania> hola
[10:57] <Jtabs> or erase entire disk ide1 master hda
[10:57] <ikonia> Jtabs: thats up to you
[10:57] <Kuriyaki> Ok thank you
[10:58] <Jtabs> well i did the second and it didnt work
[10:58] <soundray> aalhamad: what country or language has your keyboard been made for?
[10:58] <hjmills> Kuriyaki, yes - nautilus can do it
[10:58] <ikonia> Jtabs: maybe you have a hardware error
[10:58] <aalhamad> english
[10:58] <aalhamad> country US
[10:58] <blackduck3> dose anyone know if can use skype useing ubuntu ?
[10:58] <Jtabs> how do i have a hadware error with JUST ubuntu
[10:58] <hjmills> ikonia, strange that ubuntu didnt mount the windows drive but he should be ok now
[10:58] <ikonia> blackduck3: no
[10:58] <blackduck3> thxs
[10:58] <pbureau> aalhamad: I think he wanted to know if your keyboard was "qwerty" or something else
[10:58] <mcphail> blackduck3: yes
[10:58] <ikonia> Jtabs: becuse ubuntu is an OS and has nothing to do with the hardware
[10:58] <blackduck3> yes or no
[10:58] <blackduck3> ?
[10:58] <mcphail> yes
[10:58] <IcemanV9> !skype | blackduck3
[10:58] <ubotu> blackduck3: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[10:58] <soundray> aalhamad: on English keyboards, there is usually a block of six keys above the four arrow keys. Home is the middle one in the top row of the six.
[10:58] <hjmills> Jtabs, will it boot from a cd? if so boot the live cd and see if that works then try a reinstall
[10:58] <aalhamad> ooh i c .. yes qwerty
[10:59] <blackduck3> ty
[10:59] <Jtabs> it boots from the cd and i can use it like that from what i saw
[10:59] <Jtabs> where do i get the live cd
[10:59] <ikonia> Jtabs: you shoudl have the cd
[11:00] <Jtabs> well lets see if it works after this
[11:00] <soundray> Jtabs: the live CD is the Desktop CD
[11:00] <Jtabs> in resiizing th partition and installing now
[11:00] <faLUCE> hi. i'm trying to install linux dvb on 2.6.17-10-generic kernel (kubuntu). I had to change several lines of the srcs in order to resolve some compiler's error, but now i have this one which i can't solve: dvb_net.c:81: error: union <anonymous> has no member named ethernet. In fact, a kernel header (skbuff.h) contains a struct with a field (mac) which doesn't match to what the src requires... what should i do?
[11:00] <faLUCE> thnks
[11:00] <ikonia> faLUCE: I told you this before
[11:00] <dwid> how do i connect to the windows computer on my network
[11:00] <Jtabs> what grub do i install it too
[11:01] <Jtabs> i think thats what was fucked up
[11:01] <Jtabs> its hd0 now
[11:01] <ikonia> Jtabs: STOP using bad langauge
[11:01] <Jtabs> should it be hd1?
[11:01] <boci^> Why..., please, tellme why.., why, why...., meeee! :)))
[11:01] <ikonia> Jtabs: you told me you only had one disk
[11:01] <Jtabs> oh ok, no bad works, sorry
[11:01] <hackeron> hey, I'm trying to get nvidia working and it seems the latest nvidia-kernel-source is 1.0.8776 while nvidia-glx is 1.0.8774 -- is nvidia currently broken on the edgy repositories?
[11:01] <Jtabs> I do only have one disc, im just trying to see whatr went wrong
[11:01] <soundray> boci^: ask a question here any time, but please don't whine.
[11:01] <Jtabs> oh of my friends told me the grub was wrong
[11:01] <ikonia> Jtabs: grub should be installed automaticlly
[11:02] <Jtabs> hd0 then
[11:02] <ikonia> you don't get the option to install grub - ubuntu should do it for you
[11:02] <Jtabs> it say Grub should be installed to
[11:02] <boci^> soundray: I'm only singing..... I reported a bug.... and I only waiting for solve... :)
[11:02] <Jtabs> then i can put something in
[11:02] <ikonia> Jtabs: what says that ?
[11:02] <lecrucious> i'm running edgy, i am trying to use parted to partition a large disk i just added to the server. documentation says parted has support for ext3 and reiser with the libreiserfs installed. I can't create a partition to either reiser or ext3. i don't get an error but when i print the result it is a partition in ext2
[11:02] <ikonia> Jtabs: the installer should just install grub for you
[11:02] <soundray> boci^: that is not what this channel is for.
[11:02] <boci^> soundray: okok....
[11:03] <sharms_> is there a way to monitor a specific processes io rate?
[11:03] <Assargadon> Aggrrrr....I want my favorite DVD-film to play! And I failed. I install libdvdcss2, dvdread3 and libxine-maine1....what I need more?
[11:03] <boci^> soundray: tell my why can't I install libapache2-mod-mono
[11:03] <ikonia> sharms_: no you mointor the disk - processes don't have io-rates
[11:03] <BrendanM> Hi, so I'm trying to install this science program called Neuron, and when I run it it says "error while loading shared libraries: libIVhines.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" the package manager said the dependencies were satisfied.
[11:03] <lskd-255> aalhamad, did you know you can do gnome-panel   Appl/SysTools/Config Editor and look for  /apps/metacity/global_keybindings/   and tinker there?
[11:03] <boci^> soundray:  libapache2-mod-mono: Depends: mono-apache-server (< 1.1.14) but it is not going to be installed or
[11:03] <boci^>                                 mono-apache-server2 (< 1.1.14) but 1.1.17.1-2 is to be installed
[11:03] <ikonia> BrendanM: use find to find tha tlibary
[11:03] <BrendanM> Does anyone know how/where I can get that file liblVhines.so.3?
[11:03] <boci^> but I installed manually mono-apache-server2
[11:03] <BrendanM> I did, I don't have it
[11:03] <erUSUL> lecrucious: just create the partition without a fs on it and then outside parted use  mkfs.reiserfs to create the fs
[11:03] <ikonia> BrendanM: then the install has not worked
[11:04] <ikonia> BrendanM: how did you install it
[11:04] <erUSUL> lecrucious: i told you this before
[11:04] <hjmills> !dvd | Assargadon
[11:04] <ubotu> Assargadon: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:04] <faLUCE> ikonia: ok, i've also found the deb package of linuxtv-dvb in /pub/ubuntu/archive/pool/universe/l/linuxtv-dvb . Now: how can i install the packages with adept? I don't find them in the source list
[11:04] <MrWGW-> of course
[11:04] <BrendanM> I downloaded a Debian package from scientificcomputing.net
[11:04] <lecrucious> erUSUL: what u said before didn't make since until now
[11:04] <ikonia> guys - when using ubot - could we please consider using > as a redirect as the hwole channel doesn't need to see it
[11:04] <AXiOM_> soundray:  are you there?
[11:04] <MrWGW-> there is a legal risk when using libdvdcss in the US and other jurisdictions
[11:04] <ikonia> BrendanM: ahhh right - debian package on ubuntu isn't great
[11:04] <MrWGW-> This is not legal advice, however
[11:04] <soundray> AXiOM_: yes
[11:05] <AXiOM_> soundray: seems like I have no "write permissions" with etc/...wpa_supplicant
[11:06] <soundray> AXiOM_: use sudo when you are modifying system files.
[11:06] <blackduck3> i am trying to get a torrent to download it dose not start to download ?
[11:06] <ikonia> blackduck3: and ?
[11:06] <BrendanM> Would I be better off trying to convert an RPM using Alien?
[11:06] <blackduck3> why is this pls ?
[11:06] <ikonia> BrendanM: is there not an ubuntu package
[11:06] <soundray> AXiOM_: anyway, you shouldn't have to edit any of wpasupplicant's own files. Just add wpa options to /etc/network/interfaces
[11:06] <ikonia> blackduck3: problem with the torrent ?
[11:07] <Tessa> BrendanM: sudo alien -i name-of-file.rpm and yes much better
[11:07] <AXiOM_> soundray:  well how do I do that?
[11:07] <erUSUL> lecrucious: to create the part without fs use the parted comand mkpart
[11:07] <soundray> AXiOM_: according to the requirements of your wireless network, and to the docs I pointed you to...
[11:07] <SeriaaL> lalalala
[11:07] <blackduck3> i can download the torrent but the download never starts
[11:08] <ikonia> blackduck3: problem with the torrent ?
[11:08] <blackduck3> no
[11:08] <ikonia> how do you know ?
[11:08] <Falusi1> sex|sex|sex|sex|sex|sex
[11:08] <BrendanM> ikonia, there isn't an ubuntu package I've found. This is fairly obscure software used by neuroscientists to model the behavior of neurons. I need it for a class. = (
[11:08] <ikonia> Falusi1: don't spam please
[11:08] <ikonia> BrendanM: sound like it
[11:09] <ikonia> BrendanM: you could submit the debian source and request an ubuntu rebuild, or try to build it yourself again ubuntu
[11:09] <lecrucious> erUSUL: I tried that. however every time i run mkpart inside parted it forces me to specify a filesystem
[11:09] <blackduck3> because all torrents active
[11:10] <BrendanM> Hmm, where can you request an ubuntu rebuild?
[11:10] <AXiOM_> soundray:  would it have anything to do with me being on a live cd?
[11:10] <ikonia> blackduck3: so if its active - surly it means its working
[11:10] <erUSUL> lecrucious: and if you specify reiserfs it fails?
[11:10] <ikonia> BrendanM: join #ubuntu-dev and see if anyone can point you in the right are
[11:10] <ikonia> area
[11:10] <soundray> AXiOM_: yes, I doubt that you will be able to get wpa to work there...
[11:10] <lecrucious> erUSUL: well no. it proceeds like it worked. but then i run the print command and it says ext2
[11:11] <blackduck3> can we talk on skype plz ?
[11:11] <ikonia> blackduck3: no
[11:11] <AXiOM_> soundray: heh, well I wanted to see if I could get it working. This is my mother's laptop; trying to get her off of that copy of windows xp
[11:11] <ikonia> AXiOM_: why do you want your mother off windows ?
[11:11] <blackduck3> kk that dose not help me ) - :
[11:11] <soundray> lecrucious: isn't that just the partition type you are setting? That should be 82 (Linux) for ext2, ext3 and reiserfs alike
[11:12] <ikonia> blackduck3: whats the problem, the torrent's active - so just wait for it to download
[11:12] <AXiOM_> ikonia: I feel safer if she was on linux
[11:12] <erUSUL> lecrucious: and have you checked with other program (like fdisk) ther partition table? also if gparted isn not workin you can try fdisk to change the partition type....
[11:12] <soundray> AXiOM_: I've managed to convert both of my parents, but it was hard work...
[11:12] <AXiOM_> ikonia: plus, eh I think the computer guy put an illegal copy of windows on there, and I dont feel like paying anything to get it again
[11:12] <blackduck3> torrent dose not start m8
[11:13] <AXiOM_> soundray: all she does is surf and freaking email
[11:13] <ikonia> blackduck3: so  - its active, if it doesn't start its probably got no-one sharing at the moment
[11:13] <name>  cya
[11:13] <BrendanM> If all she does is internet and email, why does she need Linux?
[11:13] <AXiOM_> soundray: all i have to do is get that wpasupplicant crap working
[11:14] <zOap> I'm trying to install xfce-xmms-plugin, but I get message that I need libxfcegui4-1.0 but I have 4-4 installed and can't find 4-1 anywhere.. any hints?
[11:14] <AXiOM_> soundray: thiis may be an easy job for Suse
[11:14] <ikonia> BrendanM: he's just said he put an illegal copy of windows
[11:14] <soundray> AXiOM_: it may be
[11:14] <BrendanM> ah, well, that's a decent reason then I guess
[11:14] <BrendanM> z0ap, xubuntu uses xfce 4.4 which I think is still in beta
[11:14] <AXiOM_> heh i can't find that dvd
[11:15] <BrendanM> that plugin might not be supported on the xfce4.4 yet
[11:15] <zOap> BrendanM, so how do I get around this?
[11:15] <ikonia> z0rz: you don't
[11:15] <ikonia> if its not supported
[11:15] <BrendanM> There might be a beta or unstable version of the plugin you could try
[11:15] <ikonia> the more beta....the more problems you install
[11:15] <ikkinu> hi all, how can I see active ssh connections on my pc?
[11:15] <BrendanM> but you'd likely have to compile it from source, which I've had little success with
[11:15] <ikonia> ikkinu: who
[11:15] <zOap> BrendanM, I didn't find any betas...
[11:16] <blackduck3> sorry m8 its working now
[11:16] <soundray> zOap: just use mpg321 while you wait for that module to be updated
[11:16] <BrendanM> Have you checked CVS?
[11:16] <zOap> soundray, mpg321 has a panel module for xfce??
[11:16] <Perryman> hmm mono is not responding (after 10 hours) and kill isnt working... is there any other way to force it to quit?
[11:16] <AXiOM_> but suse brings back that nightmare with the repositories
[11:16] <AXiOM_> ehhh
[11:16] <BrendanM> I've never had any problems with Xfce 4.4, even though it's supposedly beta, that's Xubuntu's official version
[11:17] <ikkinu> ikonia, so simple? thanks
[11:17] <ikonia> no problem
[11:17] <ikonia> ikkinu: or last
[11:17] <soundray> zOap: no, it's a command line player
[11:17] <Perryman> sudo kill -9 isnt workin
[11:17] <zOap> soundray, I know. What I wanted was a panel module, not the player. I do know mpg321 and 123 for that matter:)
[11:18] <IcemanV9> xfce 4.4 has just released on 21 jan .. it is not beta anymore
[11:18] <ikonia> icemanbut ubuntu is still built on the beta version
[11:18] <IcemanV9> did xubuntu update their repo??
[11:18] <Quarupt> Ubuntu was based on SID!! So what its stable now!!!
[11:19] <blackduck3> is there a driver for a photosmart printer 3310 all-in-one ?
[11:19] <ikkinu> ikonia, 'cause I'm running a sftp server and I'd like a command such as ftptop
[11:19] <Quarupt> !cups
[11:19] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[11:19] <lecrucious> is there another tool i can use? using parted is not working except for ext2. using fdisk only allows me to do "windows" type fs. cfdisk is ok but the fs type in it says only linux. i think gparted is the graphical tool in gnome. this server does not have a gui installed
[11:19] <erUSUL> Perryman: some processes stuck in D or D+ state are unkillable iirc
[11:19] <dyrne> blackduck3: do a google search like    site:linuxprinting.org printermodel
[11:19] <blackduck3> thxs
[11:20] <lecrucious> what ever happened to partman i've read about?
[11:20] <Quarupt> lecrucious, have you tried gpartd?
[11:20] <soundray> lecrucious: just set the partition type to 0x83 (Linux). Then you can create filesystems of your choice on those partitions
[11:20] <blackduck3> Why is my download slow ?
[11:20] <Perryman> :(
[11:20] <erUSUL> lecrucious: gparted uses parted and other tools under the hood... so if those are not working....
[11:20] <tristanmike> Hi, I'm in Dapper and I have a slight issue. I have a mounted FAT32 partition which is called "Windows" in /media. I just rebooted, and now the icon on my desktop and in my "Places" Menu is called "Type=Thresh"  How can I fix this. The name is still "Windows" in /media ? Thanx in advance
[11:20] <ikonia> blackduck3: just be quiet
[11:20] <blackduck3> ?
[11:20] <Perryman> they're friendly +10 and in DN
[11:20] <ikonia> blackduck3: why is what download slow - your torrent ?
[11:20] <lecrucious> do i need a gui installed to use gparted?
[11:21] <Nox2k4> Hey I've got a Tyan S1867 and I keep getting hard locks. First it happened due to parport, now it happens whenever I start X. This system worked fine with the 2.4 kernel on an old Red Hat install...
[11:21] <ikonia> blackduck3: maybe your ISP throttles, maybe the torrent peers are slow, maybe your router is poor, maybe you have no bandwidth, maybe your network card driver is weak - what do you want me to say ?
[11:21] <Quarupt> lecrucious, its just a gui for partd so it still will not work, and yes you need X
[11:21] <ikkinu> ikonia, who can't show any sftp connection
[11:21] <soundray> tristanmike: you could try resetting the label with mlabel from the mtools package
[11:21] <ikonia> ikkinu: thats true
[11:22] <ikkinu> :)
[11:22] <blackduck3> i am new to ubuntu and i cant spell that well
[11:22] <tristanmike> soundray: hmmm. ok, I'll have a look
[11:22] <TheSkorm> bai
[11:22] <ikonia> blackduck3: you didn't make a spelling mistake, you just asked a stupid quesiton
[11:22] <Quarupt> LMAO
[11:22] <tristanmike> soundray: do you know why the change or why that particular name ?
[11:22] <zOap> BrendanM, when I looked over the file list for xfce-xmms-plugin I noticed that the ones I downloaded is supposed to work in xfce 4-4. It even says it needs no dependencies other than xfce4-4 and the players(xmms, beep etc). which means there has to be some sort of bug in the source, maybe its built on an early beta, prelibxfcegui4-1?
[11:23] <blackduck3> ffs m8
[11:23] <blackduck3> forget it
[11:23] <ikonia> blackduck3: maybe your ISP throttles, maybe the torrent peers are slow, maybe your router is poor, maybe you have no bandwidth, maybe your network card driver is weak - what do you want me to say ?
[11:23] <IcemanV9> blackduck3: it is too slow fer you, then download via http OR ftp
[11:23] <sotzing> I'm looking for a header file (specifically utmp.h) on my system but it doesn't seem to be there - anyone know why - or how to install such header files?
[11:24] <ikonia> sotzing: utmp.h is a glibc header - so you want the glibc-headers package
[11:24] <dyrne> blackduck3: if youre downloading ubuntu ive found the mirrors on ubuntu.com to be the fastest way
[11:24] <ikkinu> I'm running a ssh&scponly, is there a command in order to see active connections to my pc similar to ftptop in proftp?
[11:24] <MrWamu> Can anyone help me install Bluez protocol stack?
[11:24] <ikonia> dyrne: he's not - he's hammering torrents and wondering why some are gloing slow
[11:24] <dave> I have Edgy Server i386 installed. Is there a way to update that to Edgy Server AMD64?
[11:24] <Quarupt> aww i reinstalled windows and now it doesnt automount my windows part how can I fix?
[11:24] <ikonia> dave no
[11:25] <drakkor> anyone here use virtualbox ?
[11:25] <ikonia> no
[11:25] <dave> ikonia, whats the limitation
[11:25] <ikonia> dave what do you mean ?
[11:25] <Quarupt> drakkor, I just installed trying to get it to work now
[11:25] <soundray> dave: all the binaries are different
[11:25] <sakobatoneko> can some one help me
[11:25] <blackduck3> lol i am downloading 58 DUMMIES BOOKS
[11:25] <IcemanV9> !ask | sakobatoneko
[11:25] <ubotu> sakobatoneko: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:25] <ikonia> blackduck3: so its eating your bandwidth or its throttled
[11:26] <ikonia> what do you want me to say - use your brain
[11:26] <dave> soundray, I am aware of that. That is why I want to install all the amd64 versions of the i386 files.
[11:26] <ikonia> dave you need to re-install
[11:26] <sakobatoneko> my gnome panel keeps crashing every time i close bugreport
[11:26] <soundray> ikonia: please take a break and come back when you're in a better mood ;)
[11:26] <blackduck3> 60 kb/s
[11:26] <Dumbalien> what's the best tool to diagnose a hardrive
[11:26] <drakkor> yeah, I installed the .deb file fine and it starts up fine, but don't know how to load or install XP on the virtual dirive
[11:26] <ikonia> soundray: my mood is fine
[11:26] <NET||abuse> slept, ikonia, hey guys,, just wanna say thanks ;)  you saved my X config.. but i don't believe it was fglrx in the end.. i think some AGP option was throwing the session into a hang
[11:26] <blackduck3> i have a 1500 plan
[11:26] <ikonia> NET||abuse: no problem, happy to help
[11:26] <soundray> ikonia: oh, you just come across as foul then.
[11:26] <slept> can i use a i386 cd to install an amd64 image or is it impossibel to exchange things later ?
[11:26] <dave> ikonia, thats no problem I guess. I was just curios because I cannot get the AMD64 install cds to load. They all just freeze while the kernel is loading.
[11:27] <mark4> does the ubuntu live cd support the RTL8111 card ?
[11:27] <ikonia> soundray: just to someone who doesn't want to learn or try anything himself
[11:27] <NET||abuse> slept, i can help :) no you can totaly switch later
[11:27] <dave> ikonia, oddly enough, this doesn't occur on the equivlant i386 discs
[11:27] <ikonia> dave what chip are you running on
[11:27] <dave> ikonia, nforce
[11:27] <ikonia> dave sorry no, I meant cpu
[11:27] <coach_z> Question: how do i change the time in terminal???? it is in 24 hour time and that is no problem but the 24 hour time is no where close to what it should be.....my system clock on the top of my screen is correct so is the time in my bios
[11:27] <NET||abuse> slept, basically just change the debs you are using for the 64 version, reinstall your kernel image then modules etc...
[11:27] <dave> Athlon X2 5000+
[11:28] <ikonia> dave AM2 ?
[11:28] <slept> NET||abuse, nice ... it is downloading so slow ....
[11:28] <NET||abuse> slept, may take quite a bit of re-installing and lord knows what settings may be lost
[11:28] <NET||abuse> but ultimately,, if you want you can
[11:28] <dave> ikonia, no.. X2. its a dual core 64 bit.
[11:28] <slept> but does it exchange the base system aswell ?
[11:28] <ikonia> dave , no I mean socket AM"
[11:28] <ikonia> am2
[11:28] <dave> ikonia, yes.
[11:28] <NET||abuse> slept, when you re-install the kernel image, ye,, the base system is exchanged
[11:29] <NET||abuse> slept, you then have to get all the modules over to a compatable version, compiled for your new architecture image
[11:29] <ikonia> dave, I have seen this before with some am2 sockets - I can't explain it as I don't know the details, but you may find it in the forums
[11:29] <slept> are you sure about that, a while ago ther was the posibillity to use 64 bit kernel and the rest was i386
[11:29] <NET||abuse> slept, and then for any other apps that need architecture specific static links
[11:29] <sid> I have some old(1998) .wmv files, 5.5 gigs in total. I wanted to convert them to mpeg-2 and make a DVD with a simple menu to choose one of the files our of 12. Is there any software for doing this?
[11:30] <soundray> coach_z: is the time in the terminal on UTC?
[11:30] <NET||abuse> slept, oh, well they may work, but not to the fullest of their potential
[11:30] <coach_z> soundray: what is UTC?
[11:30] <dreamstateheroic> hello whenever i try to start a gnome session, it logs me in and shows that pale brown/orange screen and kind of freezes.  then after like thirty seconds, in the top left a grey box appears and then the computer just kinda sits there.  i can still use the mouse though.  what to do?
[11:30] <ikonia> Uiversal time clock
[11:30] <NET||abuse> slept, not sure about it,, would have to read on google, search for 32bit to 64bit migration
[11:30] <soundray> coach_z: Coordinated Universal Time, equivalent to GMT
[11:30] <ikonia>  slept don't migrate - re-install
[11:30] <soundray> coach_z: GMT = Greenwich Mean Time
[11:31] <NET||abuse> slept, ikonia is prolly right though, it's faaaar more hastle than it's worth to do things that way
[11:31] <ikkinu> I'm running a ssh&scponly, is there a command in order to see active connections to my pc similar to ftptop in proftp?
[11:31] <coach_z> soundray ikonia:   i have no clue....it is saying it is ten PM that would put the tiem 5 hours ahead of me so i dont think it is GMT even
[11:31] <lecrucious> erUSUL: I know i've done this a million times but i just went into parted again and looked at the fs after creating it in cfdisk. the fs type was ext2. i ran mkfs and specified that partition and typed ext3 and it said"No Implementation: Support for creating ext3 file systems is not implemented yet." then i did it again and typed reiserfs and it worked. I don't know why it didn't work before
[11:31] <ikonia> coach_z: where are you ?
[11:31] <soundray> coach_z: what timezone are you in?
[11:31] <coach_z> that is after i did the math to make it a real time
[11:31] <mark4> can someone tell me if the ubuntu live cd supports the RTL8111?
[11:31] <coach_z> ikonia soundray: EST...aka New Jersey
[11:31] <tristanmike> soundray: I had a look, I'm not sure that's what I'm looking for. See, the volume in fstab is called windows and it's pointing to /media/windows which is the name I've given the drive in linux. Until the reboot, it was labled windows. Even the link I have in my home folder called and linked to "windows" still works, but volume on the desktop, in my Places menu, and in Nautilus is called "Type=Thresh" any ideas ?
[11:32] <ikonia> thats right isn't it - USA 5 hours ahead
[11:32] <coach_z> it is reading 22:24:38
[11:32] <Music_Shuffle> lol
[11:32] <erUSUL> lecrucious: well all i can say is congrats... glad that it worked ;)
[11:32] <ikonia> yes, thats GMT
[11:32] <coach_z> time here is 5:32
[11:32] <ikonia> coach_z: yup, thats UTC your using
[11:32] <delstar> howdy
[11:32] <Music_Shuffle> I can safely say that EST != 2200 hours right now, yeah :P
[11:32] <soundray> coach_z: edit /etc/default/rcS if you don't want to use UTC
[11:32] <sockmonk> what version of ruby comes with ubuntu edgy?
[11:32] <lecrucious> erUSUL: thanx for the help, so now i just add an entry in fstab to mount it right?
[11:33] <zylche> GMT = 2233.
[11:33] <ikonia> soundray: is it just set in the init script - I thought it was somewhere else too
[11:33] <erUSUL> lecrucious: yes if the fs have been created yes
[11:33] <soundray> ikonia: no, only in /etc/default/rcS
[11:33] <ikonia> thank you
[11:33] <coach_z> soundray: what do i need to edit in that file?
[11:33] <sakobatoneko> bug report killed my gnome panel
[11:33] <soundray> ikonia: perhaps you mean the file that tzconfig edits, whichever that is...
[11:34] <ikonia> yes perhaps
[11:34] <soundray> coach_z: set UTC=no
[11:34] <delstar> anyone been able to get the Realtek HD soundcard working with 6.10?
[11:34] <tapas> i want to modify the /etc/security/limits.conf on a ubuntu cd
[11:34] <ikonia> I have a vauge recolection
[11:34] <tapas> i know how to modify the root fs of the live c, etc,,
[11:34] <Quarupt> macd, you around?
[11:34] <soundray> ikonia: /etc/timezone
[11:34] <sockmonk> any edgy users here that happen to have ruby installed?
[11:34] <lecrucious> erUSUL: do i have to specify a UUID or will /dev/cciss/c2d0 be ok?
[11:34] <ikonia> soundray: ta
[11:34] <charlesg3> sockmonk, I do
[11:34] <mthaddon> sockmonk: 1.8.2-1
[11:34] <slept> ok, a semperon is 64 bit, yes ? and will use amd64 ?
[11:34] <tapas> but i suppose that file is created by some package and i wonder how i can most easily also modify it on the installed system
[11:34] <dyrne> sockmonk: i would think 1.9 but im still on dapper
[11:34] <mthaddon> "sudo aptitude show ruby" is your friend
[11:35] <sockmonk> mthaddon: 1.8.2??  ok, thanks.
[11:35] <soundray> tristanmike: I'm trying to remember, I think I've had this problem myself...
[11:35] <IcemanV9> sakobatoneko: killall gnome-panel
[11:35] <ikonia> slept: not all seperon is 64bit
[11:35] <mthaddon> sockmonk: yeah, looks that way
[11:35] <sockmonk> I don't have ubuntu installed yet, still evaluating
[11:35] <Quarupt> soundray, hey I just reinstalled windows on the same partition it was on I got grub working, I didnt change fstab but it doesnt automount now?
[11:35] <mthaddon> gotcha
[11:35] <coach_z> soundray: it says the file is read only and i dont have permission to edit it?  how do i get around that?
[11:35] <erUSUL> lecrucious: the uuid scheme is in place for the transition to feisty where new ide/sata framework will be used by the kernel and dev names will change...
[11:35] <FLiPeR> Greetings ......:D whats the command on the shell to restart a service e.g apache?
[11:36] <soundray> tristanmike: can you dump the beginning of the partition to a file and search for the string? Maybe that'll yield a clue
[11:36] <erUSUL> lecrucious: better use the uuid
[11:36] <slept> ikonia, its mobile 3100+
[11:36] <IcemanV9> sakobatoneko: if no go, then restart X (ctrl+alt+backspace)
[11:36] <sotzing> ikonia: thanks for your help - utmp.h is part of the glibc headers - but how would i install the correct version of these header files
[11:36] <mthaddon> sockmonk: not too long til feisty is ready - would most likely have a more up to date version (I don't use ruby personally)
[11:36] <soundray> coach_z: open it with 'sudo gedit /etc/default/rcS'
[11:36] <sotzing> i cant find anything when i seach apt-cache
[11:36] <mthaddon> sockmonk: if you can hang on til April
[11:36] <soundray> coach_z: sorry open it with 'gksudo gedit /etc/default/rcS'
[11:36] <lecrucious> erUSUL: ok. how do i find the UUID?
[11:36] <ikonia> sotzing: the glibc-includes package
[11:36] <erUSUL> lecrucious: 'ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/' should give you an idea
[11:36] <ikonia> glibc-headers
[11:36] <coach_z> soundray: thank you
[11:36] <nodegamra> noob here need help
[11:36] <delstar> anyone been able to get the Realtek HD soundcard(integrated) working with Edgy? Google has failed me in providing a solution
[11:36] <lecrucious> erUSUL:thanx
[11:37] <erUSUL> lecrucious: np
[11:37] <sakobatoneko> i did that once i loged back in budreport  comes up and i close it then it kills my gnome panel
[11:37] <nodegamra> need help
[11:37] <sockmonk> mthaddon: is there a web site that would tell me what package versions are included in feisty?
[11:37] <tristanmike> soundray: how do I do that, I'm still on the learning curve :P
[11:37] <soundray> FLiPeR: 'sudo /etc/init.d/apache restart'
[11:37] <FLiPeR> ty
[11:37] <sakobatoneko> bugreport*
[11:37] <Beverage> hey Im trying to use frostwire, anyway apparently it doesnt work with beryl so i had to make a script and then "sudo chmod +x frostwire_fix"  but there were no instructions after this what should I do?
[11:37] <mthaddon> sockmonk: not that I'm aware of - let me have a quick look...
[11:37] <slept> nodegamra, just ask your question if people know they will help you
[11:38] <IcemanV9> sakobatoneko: edgy or dapper?
[11:38] <sotzing> ikonia: hmmm...it says it can't find either of those packages
[11:38] <sakobatoneko> edgy
[11:38] <ikonia> sotzing: hang on
[11:39] <sotzing> ikonia: thanks for your help =)
[11:39] <coach_z> soundray: do i need to restart for this to take place?
[11:39] <mindstate> how do i configure my video card to work with X? i just got a new card now X wont start up
[11:39] <soundray> tristanmike: 'sudo dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/tmp/abc123 bs=512 count=1', then you can examine /tmp/abc123 with a hex editor or similar
[11:39] <TheShrimp> hello
[11:39] <IcemanV9> sakobatoneko: did you change the panel size?
[11:39] <sakobatoneko> IcemanV9: edgy
[11:39] <sakobatoneko> no
[11:39] <soundray> coach_z: the short answer is yes...
[11:39] <mindstate> im stuck in terminal mode lol
[11:40] <coach_z> soundray: lol thanks....i like the short answers bc im still a total noob
[11:40] <IcemanV9> sakobatoneko: that's what i was thinking of .. dunno what else that causes gnome-panel to crash
[11:40] <coach_z> if you wanna give me the long one i never mind learning a thing or two
[11:40] <mthaddon> sockmonk: you know, thinking about it, there won't be a page that shows that currently, as it'll depend on how testing goes as to which specific version makes it in there
[11:40] <TheShrimp> I have a problem, I just got wireless internet today and Ubuntu isn't detecting it, but my other PCs are (they aren't running linux) how do I make it detect it?
[11:40] <mindstate> i just need to know what i type in to get to the xorg configuraton
[11:40] <soundray> tristanmike: this is fairly advanced stuff though...
[11:41] <Quarupted> Thats what I hate about gui clients like Xchat, they are dumb
[11:41] <sockmonk> so I'd have to download a CD and see what's there
[11:41] <dyrne> TheShrimp: your wireless card shows up?
[11:41] <delstar> Has anyone been able to get the Realtek HD soundcard(integrated) working with Edgy?
[11:41] <tristanmike> soundray: I'm into looking, I may not understand it, but I'll look :D
[11:41] <soundray> coach_z: 'sudo /etc/init.d/rcS restart' should do it too, but I'm not sure whether that would have any side effects.
[11:41] <dyrne> TheShrimp: eth1 or ath0 or wlan0 or whatever
[11:41] <sockmonk> makes sense not to make any premature promises... but I guess that means the version could be downgraded between now and final release
[11:41] <mindstate> how do i configure my video card to work with X? i just got a new card now X wont start up
[11:41] <tristanmike> soundray: what should I open it with (look at it)
[11:41] <TheShrimp> dyrne: nothing is working, it doesn't even know it's there..
[11:41] <mindstate> i just need to know what i type in to get to the xorg configuraton
[11:41] <ikonia> sotzing: I can't see the package myself, I wonder if they have included it in the linux-kernel-headers package ?
[11:41] <soundray> tristanmike: hexdump
[11:41] <lecrucious> erUSUL: I've nvr done that before or edited the fstab or manually mounted a fs (what can i say, i started with a distro that did everything for me) thanx much for ur help..it all worked
[11:42] <TheShrimp> it did however detect the USB I plugged in
[11:42] <ShadowX> is there anyway to install Ubuntu in text mode?
[11:42] <soundray> mindstate: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[11:42] <mthaddon> sockmonk: doing a search on launchpad, it looks like feisty is 1.8.2-1
[11:42] <slept> TheShrimp, iwconfig eth.. essid=  replace the interface with whatever is right
[11:42] <erUSUL> lecrucious: no problem
[11:42] <mindstate> gracias soundray
[11:42] <ikonia> ShadowX: the alternate cd iamge
[11:42] <soundray> !alternate | ShadowX
[11:42] <ubotu> ShadowX: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[11:42] <ikonia> image
[11:42] <mthaddon> sockmonk: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/i386/ruby/1.8.2-1 - this may change though...
[11:42] <nodegamra> i uped from 6.6 to 6.10 and I get an crc error Kernel panic - not sincing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)    Can any one help?
[11:42] <dyrne> TheShrimp: what kind of card? id search ubuntuforums.org for it. not familiar with many usb wireless devices sry
[11:42] <tristanmike> soundray: so do I convert the hex to text ?
[11:42] <mastastealth> ShadowX: alternate CD
[11:42] <ikonia> nodegamra: is your grub config correct ?
[11:42] <ikonia> nodegamra: your chipset may not be in your initrd
[11:42] <sakobatoneko> all i can do is open folders from my desktop and change screens with my keyboard
[11:43] <nodegamra> dunno i am new with linux
[11:43] <TheShrimp> I have a realtek ethernet card I know that
[11:43] <ikonia> or your initrd may be borked in the upgrade to not match the kernel
[11:43] <ikonia> nodegamra: better clean install than upgrade
[11:43] <dave> NET||abuse, I'm trying to use apt to swtich from i386 to amd64. What do I need to do to my sources.list file?
[11:43] <soundray> tristanmike: no, 'hexdump -C /tmp/abc123should do that for you
[11:43] <ikonia> dave its really not possible to do it like that
[11:43] <mattisgay> hello everyone
[11:43] <soundray> tristanmike: oops 'hexdump -C /tmp/abc123' should do that for you
[11:43] <ikonia> dave search the forums for the issue I suggested
[11:43] <aalhamad> is there is a package for gif animation?
[11:43] <nodegamra> well i did also a clean one and after the first upgrade the same thing happened
[11:43] <dave> ikonia, couldnt locate anything
[11:43] <mattisgay> is there a way to install ubuntu on a flash drive an completely use that as the OS without touching the computer?
[11:43] <tristanmike> soundray: ahhh
[11:43] <aalhamad> is there is a package for gif animation? doing web banners?
[11:44] <ikonia> dave which version of ubuntu
[11:44] <soundray> dave: don't even try. All the binaries are different between i386 and amd64. You *have* to reinstall
[11:44] <Assargadon> Hmmmm... Xine play my DVD well, but Totem still failed...how can I fix thee? I make every point of list in manual :)
[11:44] <dave> ikonia, edgy
[11:44] <sotzing> ikonia: yah i was thinking the same thing, but i've got the linux-kernel-headers package installed and i still don't seen it anywhere....
[11:44] <ikonia> dave Hmmmm, just out of interest do you fancy trying 6.0.6 64bit
[11:44] <sockmonk> mthaddon: thanks for checking on that.
[11:44] <sotzing> ikonia: i'll keep lookin
[11:44] <dave> soundray, the amd64 install discs freeze on boot
[11:44] <ikonia> sotzing: doesn't sound right, but I can't believe there is no glibc-includes
[11:44] <mthaddon> sockmonk: np
[11:45] <soundray> dave: stick with i386, it'll give you fewer problems anyway
[11:45] <tristanmike> soundray: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3887/
[11:45] <dave> ikonia, i suppose I could try, but I don't see why that would help. Its an older version.
[11:45] <IcemanV9> sakobatoneko: try the last post --> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=313547&page=2&highlight=gnome-panel+crashes
[11:45] <ikonia> dave yes but its also a better supported version
[11:45] <ikonia> dave in my opinion (only) edgy is a bit rushed
[11:45] <soundray> dave: amd64 has its place if you do numbercrunching and video recoding.
[11:45] <Quarupted> why the hell does Ubuntu use UUID for device names is fstab instead of just /dev/hdx   ????
[11:46] <hobothug> wtf is DCC SEND startkeylogger 0 0 0 ???!!!
[11:46] <soundray> Quarupted: no need to swear
[11:46] <mjr> Quarupted, it's more robust
[11:46] <ikonia> Quarupted: because ubuntu chose to use a specific libata branch
[11:46] <sakobatoneko> how can i run a terminal
[11:46] <nalioth> hobothug: please join me in #ubuntu-ops
[11:46] <IcemanV9> !language | hobothug
[11:46] <ubotu> hobothug: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:46] <soundray> Quarupted: the IDs don't change if the partition sequence changes.
[11:46] <mattisgay> is there a way to install ubuntu on a flash drive an completely use that as the OS without touching the computer?
[11:46] <Music_Shuffle> sakobatoneko, alt-f2 and enter 'gnome-terminal'
[11:46] <hobothug> o_O
[11:46] <mthaddon> quarupted: so it can handle the same devices being loaded in different orders
[11:46] <nodegamra> ikonica i did the new install and after upgrading the same thing happened
[11:46] <soundray> mattisgay: yes
[11:46] <soundray> !install | mattisgay
[11:46] <ubotu> mattisgay: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[11:47] <ikonia> nodegamra: just do an edgy install not a 6.0.6 install then upgrade
[11:47] <Quarupted> Well it really screws you up when you reinstall something on one of the other parts
[11:47] <mthaddon> quarupted: otherwise, as each device is loaded it just gets assigned the next available /dev/hxx
[11:47] <ikonia> just install 6.10 first
[11:47] <tristanmike> soundray: did you catch the link ?
[11:47] <mattisgay> soundray: thx
[11:47] <mthaddon> quarupted: not sure I follow - the other parts of what?
[11:47] <Quarupted> ikonia, thats weird I changed them back to /dev/hda blah blah and they mount exactly where I tell them to
[11:47] <Quarupted> mthaddon, part = partitions
[11:48] <ikonia> Quarupted: you can reference /dev/hda
[11:48] <ikonia> for example
[11:48] <pbureau> CBinGR: check your pvt windows buddy
[11:48] <ikonia> but thats legacy in the libata branch ubuntu is using
[11:48] <nodegamra> ikonica: i did the edgy fresh install it did run fine but after the upgrade i got the error
[11:48] <ikonia> nodegamra: what are you upgrading to ?
[11:48] <mthaddon> quarupted: gotcha. don't see how, but I'm assuming you've had an issue with it...
[11:48] <soundray> tristanmike: it doesn't help
[11:48] <james> hello
[11:48] <nodegamra> just the regular file upgrades
[11:48] <ikonia> nodegamra: /????
[11:48] <tristanmike> soundray: that's good, I was worried about that "a disk read error occurred...blah"
[11:49] <Quarupted> mthaddon, yea I reinstalled windows on my hda1 and it wouldnt mount anymore and I couldnt figure out why untill I saw that crazy fstab
[11:49] <NET||abuse> sorry, was afk
[11:49] <fatum_> hey
[11:49] <NET||abuse> dave, you get your question sorted?
[11:49] <roler> Has anyone dual booted vista/Linux yet? I know this is totally the wrong channel, and please don't ban me. :). But I am in the support industry and I need to know all operating systems... My only concern would be Vista wiping out my partition
[11:49] <tristanmike> soundray: do you know what might have caused the issue ?
[11:49] <soundray> tristanmike: if such an error occurs, this is where the boot loader reads the error message from.
[11:49] <Jtabs> boot menu has to have cd before hd right?
[11:49] <fatum_> can anyone help me with a small little problem?
[11:49] <mthaddon> quarupted: oh, I see...
[11:49] <Jtabs> i got into it bt
[11:49] <soundray> tristanmike: no, sorry
[11:49] <Jtabs> btw
[11:49] <tristanmike> soundray: ahhh, thanks
[11:49] <Music_Shuffle> !anyone | fatum_
[11:49] <ubotu> fatum_: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:49] <tristanmike> soundray: no worries, you've been very helpful +1
[11:49] <mattisgay> soundray: i only see directions on how to install from a flash drive, i dont see how to install onto a flash drive
[11:50] <ikonia> mattisgay: flash is just a scsi disk - the only thing to consider is where the bootloader will be installed
[11:50] <fatum_> Ok.. well my screen resolution sticks with 1024, even while in xorg.conf it says 1280x800...
[11:50] <fatum_> any way how to change this?
[11:50] <fatum_> i don't know the right place to change it..
[11:50] <mattisgay> ikonia: do i have to install bootloader on the computer?
[11:51] <ikonia> mattisgay: depends if your motherboard will boot from flash
[11:51] <Beverage> hey folks, i installed limewire, and it opens up with just a blank window that has nothing inside of it...anyone shed some light for me?
[11:51] <Quarupted> roler, I have, i have Gentoo, Ubuntu, WinXPSP2, Vista all on one happy 160GB
[11:51] <ShadowX> is there an iso of Ubuntu designed for laptops?
[11:51] <erUSUL> fatum_: intel integrated graphics?? 'apt-cache show 915resolution'
[11:51] <soundray> mattisgay: okay, I'll help you read. It's the second-last link in the Advanced section
[11:51] <ikonia> shadowx no
[11:51] <ShadowX> dang
[11:51] <mthaddon> shadowx: regular iso should handle laptops fine
[11:51] <sakobatoneko> alt+f2 doesnt work
[11:51] <fatum_> yeah it intel 950 :)
[11:52] <mattisgay> ikonia: if i can bood from usb, can i put the boot stuff on teh flash so that nothing on the computer is changed?
[11:52] <mattisgay> soundray: haha, thanks
[11:52] <ikonia> mattisgay: yes, if you use the advanced install
[11:52] <Beverage> hey folks, i installed limewire, and it opens up with just a blank window that has nothing inside of it...anyone shed some light for me?
[11:52] <ikonia> Beverage: you have to have a server list
[11:52] <mattisgay> ikonia: do i have to setup multiple partiotions?
[11:52] <OkinawaInstructo> in installed a duel nvidia e-geforce 7300GS video card and cant get the both monitors to work... any one have any suggestions
[11:52] <ikonia> mattisgay: no
[11:52] <roler> Quarupted; wow! Thanks. :)
[11:53] <mindstate> having some real issues now, i can't get my gpu to open up X-Windows, please any help with my xorg.conf file would be appreciated
[11:53] <soundray> Beverage: First, 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash', and answer no to the question. See if that fixes it.
[11:53] <mattisgay> ikonia: k, ill keep reading, thx for the help
[11:53] <erUSUL> mindstate: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[11:53] <mindstate> erUSUL: i've tried that..and i still get no results
[11:53] <mindstate> erUSUL: i get a no screens found error
[11:54] <Beverage> soundray: that didnt work
[11:54] <nodegamra> ikonia: its a edgy fres install but after system upgrades and reboot i get the error
[11:54] <fatum_> ok i tryed apt-cache show 915resolution but it didn change anything, i think
[11:54] <Beverage> ikonia: i dont think it has to do with server lists...
[11:54] <fatum_> atleast i can't do anything to change
[11:54] <soundray> Beverage: listen to ikonia then
[11:54] <Beverage> soundray okay thanks
[11:54] <fatum_> how does that thing work? ;)
[11:54] <ikonia> Beverage: what do you think it has to do with
[11:54] <Quarupted> Anyone use Virtualbox?
[11:54] <Beverage> ikonia: maybe java? and beryl conflict?
[11:54] <ikonia> ?
[11:54] <soundray> mindstate: examine /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:55] <soundray> mindstate: at the end of that file, there should be more information about the failure
[11:55] <Beverage> ikonia: maybe it does have to do with server lists...i dont know thats the problem :P
[11:55] <mindstate> soundray: ok
[11:55] <IcemanV9> !virtualbox | Quarupted - does it help ya?
[11:55] <ubotu> Quarupted - does it help ya?: VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[11:55] <Beverage> ikonia: what do you suggest?
[11:56] <Quarupted> Iceman,  have looked through the site, I am not asking for a    link, I was asking if anyone in here has used it
[11:56] <IcemanV9> Quarupted: k no problem
[11:56] <ikonia> Beverage: don't know, I don't use it , I just checked the limewire google results
[11:57] <mindstate> soundray: its an ATI Card could that be the problem? i've noticed people talking about ATI chipset problems
[11:57] <Beverage> ikonia: hmm maybe another p2p program?
[11:57] <soundray> mindstate: well possible
[11:57] <ikonia> up to you
[11:57] <soundray> mindstate: did you install fglrx?
[11:57] <mindstate> soundray: no
[11:57] <mindstate> soundray: i dont even know what that is lol
[11:57] <grndslm> ehh...tryin' to compile my own kernel, but when i type 'make menuconfig', it gives me these errors:  http://pastebin.ca/337679
[11:57] <soundray> mindstate: that's what you should try, if you don't mind a bit of proprietary software on your machine
[11:58] <soundray> !fglrx | mindstate
[11:58] <ubotu> mindstate: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:58] <erUSUL> fatum_: apt-cache show 915resolution anly shows info abaut the package... you can install it and see if it can help ypu with resolution problem
[11:58] <IcemanV9> mindstate: i installed fglrx for my ATI card; no problem since then
[11:58] <mindstate> soundray: can i use apt-get ? i dont mind prorietary software lol
[11:58] <ikonia> grndslm: why are you trying to build your own kernel, your missing a lot of headers
[11:58] <soundray> mindstate: yes you can
[11:58] <soundray> mindstate: follow ubotu's link
[11:58] <IcemanV9> mindstate: i used the instruction from ubuntu wiki
[11:59] <mindstate> soundray: kinda hard to get to a webpage with no X lol
[11:59] <ProN00b> are there any apps i can view per application network usage ?
[11:59] <mindstate> IcemanV9: thanks IcemanV9
[11:59] <grte> Anyone here an op in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[11:59] <ikonia> ProN00b: nettop ?
[11:59] <soundray> mindstate: 'sudo apt-get install elinks ; elinks  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto'
[11:59] <IcemanV9> !elinks | mindstate
[12:00] <ubotu> elinks: advanced text-mode WWW browser. In component main, is optional. Version 0.11.1-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 593 kB, installed size 3316 kB
[12:00] <mindstate> thanks soundray