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DanZI need help. I know next to nothing about linux and xorg/xfce wont start. I followed the installation directions on the website12:37
anon_you're looking at a command-line?12:38
DanZI just did the sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop12:39
DanZit stalled a bunch of stuff and a rebooted12:39
DanZnow im back at the command line12:39
maxamillionDanZ: try typing "gdm" in the command line and tell me what happens12:39
DanZ-bash: gdm: command not found12:40
maxamillionDanZ: interesting12:40
maxamillionDanZ: try "startx"12:40
DanZ-bash: startx: command now found12:41
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maxamillionDanZ: ok "sudo aptitude install xorg xserver-sorg xubuntu-desktop gdm"12:41
maxamillionDanZ: no wait ....12:41
maxamillionDanZ: ok "sudo aptitude install xorg xserver-xorg xubuntu-desktop gdm" <--that one ... i messed up the xserver-xorg on the first one12:42
DanZduring the installation it said something about a dependency issue12:42
DanZbut it had a solution so I pressed y12:42
maxamillionDanZ: oh ok12:42
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DanZI just got the same messege aggain about dependancies and a solution12:45
DanZit sais it will install gimp and gimp-data but leave the following at current version: "gxine [not installed] , libxine [not installed] , xubuntu-desktop [not installed] 12:47
maxamillionDanZ: ohhh ok ..12:47
DanZhow can it leave it at the same version if not installed12:47
maxamillionDanZ: do "sudo aptitude update" then do "sudo aptitude -f upgrade"12:49
maxamillionDanZ: that should fix the dependancy issue and then we can get things installed12:50
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DanZactualy, I missed it say earlier "the following packages have unmet dependencies:" "gimp-svg: depends (= 2.2.13-1ubuntu1) but 2.2.13-ubuntu3 is to be installed."12:51
DanZactualy, I missed it say earlier "the following packages have unmet dependencies:" "gimp-svg: depends gimp (= 2.2.13-1ubuntu1) but 2.2.13-ubuntu3 is to be installed."12:51
DanZmissed part of it12:51
maxamillionno worries12:53
maxamillionDanZ: did you run those update commands i told you to?12:53
DanZnot yet12:54
maxamillionok ... lemme know when those are done12:54
DanZok, done12:56
maxamillionDanZ: now do "sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop xorg xserver-xorg gdm"12:57
maxamillionDanZ: that should install without a problem this time12:57
DanZI just got the same dependencies issue as above12:58
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DanZcould it be in part becous I didnt uncoment the unsupported repository thing in the sources12:59
DanZI know some of that stuff is pretty new12:59
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maxamillionDanZ: uhmmm... yeah, uncomment those and then do "sudo aptitude update" and then "sudo aptitude -f install xubuntu-desktop" ... we will try to take this step by step01:00
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LordGamercome on Linux support the ATI cards :(01:05
DanZI still got the dependencies thing01:06
maxamillionLordGamer: it already does .... "sudo aptitude install xorg-driver-fglrx" and then edit your xorg.conf accordingly :)01:07
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maxamillionDanZ: yeah .... i have absolutely no clue, did you get that issue from a fresh installation?01:08
DanZI just finished installed the command line via alternet cd01:09
maxamillionDanZ: did you check the md5sum of the image when you downloaded it?01:09
DanZwell, I ran the cd check that was included on the cd01:09
DanZit was fine01:09
DanZits giving me options on ways to resolve the dependency conflict01:10
DanZI just dont know which one to use01:10
DanZactualy this dependencies conflict seems a little different then the first01:11
maxamillionDanZ: :(01:11
DanZshould I go the the ubuntu support channel?01:11
maxamillionDanZ: yeah, maybe someone in there could help ... it doesn't seem like a xubuntu specific issue, sorry i wasn't of more help01:12
DanZnp, thanks for the help01:12
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bigfuzzyjesusmaxamillion, how did you install gnome-dock01:23
Commander-Crowesudo apt-get gnome-dock01:24
maxamillionbigfuzzyjesus: i didn't01:25
bigfuzzyjesusmaxamillion, you said you did in -offtopic01:25
bigfuzzyjesusCommander-Crowe, its not in the rops01:26
bigfuzzyjesusCommander-Crowe, repos01:26
maxamillionbigfuzzyjesus: no i didn't01:26
bigfuzzyjesusmaxamillion, oh nvm then01:26
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Commander-Crowebigfuzzyjesus you enable the universe and multiverse?01:26
bigfuzzyjesusCommander-Crowe, yeah01:26
B_H[zZz] what's command to runing xubuntu ?01:28
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anon_B_H[zZz] : not sure what you mean.01:29
B_H[zZz] i installed xubuntu-desktop package01:29
B_H[zZz] now how can i startx ?!01:29
anon_when you login, there should be a menu for each DE01:29
Commander-Croweselect Xfce/Xubuntu in sessions01:30
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braveheartliondoes anybody have their print-screen button working?01:30
ubotugimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.01:31
braveheartlionCommander-Crowe:  was that for me?01:31
maxamillionbraveheartlion: just add the screenshot panel plugin01:31
braveheartlionmaxamillion: how?01:31
braveheartlionI'm a newbie01:31
braveheartlionmaxamillion: add the plugin to gimp?01:31
maxamillionno no01:31
braveheartlionthen please advise01:31
Commander-Crowebraveheartlion: yes01:32
maxamillionbraveheartlion: right click either the top or bottom panel (which ever you want to plugin to be) and then click "Add New Item" and scroll down ... click "Screenshot"01:32
maxamillionbraveheartlion: then just click that little camera icon to take a screenshot01:33
braveheartlionmaxamillion: thanks. i'll do it now.01:33
maxamillionbraveheartlion: np01:34
B_H[zZz] xfdesktop:18616 Gtk-warning cannot open display01:34
B_H[zZz] !?01:34
braveheartlionmaxamillion:  is there a way to get the print-screen button on my keyboard working?01:34
braveheartlionmaxamillion: the panel button works. i was just wondering about the button on my keyboard01:35
maxamillionbraveheartlion: yeah, you just have to map the screenshot program call to the key (but i don't know the name of the program off hand) ... you can map it through Applications->Settings->Keyboard Settings in the "Shortcuts" tab01:38
braveheartlionmaxamillion:  thanks.01:39
maxamillionno problem :)01:40
braveheartlionyeah, i don't know the program name01:40
B_H[zZz] restart01:40
B_H[zZz] xfdesktop now working fine :)01:40
braveheartlionso i won't be able to do it01:40
B_H[zZz] tanx :)!01:40
maxamillionbraveheartlion: sorry about that one01:43
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sluckxi have an older presario supporting1024x768. problem is that xfce is slightly (very) skewed to the right it covers my scroll bar about half way in full screen.01:50
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sluckxlaptop,  skewed very slightly right but annoying when browsing.01:52
viddsluckx, what is the video card on the lappy?01:53
maxamillionsluckx: open a terminal and run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and make sure you select everything correct for the lcd panel and then restart the X server and life should be good01:53
maxamillioni'm outta here ... getting off work01:54
vidd!seen cellofellow01:56
ubotuI last saw cellofellow (n=josh@ 1d 2h 46m 41s ago, quiting: "Leaving"01:56
DanZwell, I removed fam and gimp-svg and its installing now01:58
DanZwill I need either of those later?01:59
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sluckxok fingers crossed.01:59
viddsluckx, ya good?02:02
sluckxtotally killed X haha02:02
sluckxi backed up xorg np02:02
viddgood call02:03
vidddid you set the hor and vewrt manually, or let X figure them out?02:03
sluckxlet x that time02:04
sluckxi might boot knoppix and see what it uses in xorg02:04
viddwhat is the vid card?02:04
vidddid you pick that from the list or the versa?02:05
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sluckxvesa is right i think02:06
viddtry that one this time02:06
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viddsluckx, getting ready to retry?02:13
DanZthis is taking awile. how long dous should it take to install xubuntu-desktop on a 400 mh celeron02:14
sluckxi gotta reboot into recovery console again,  that time i just edited xorg and changed driver to vesa02:15
viddlike no more then 20-30 minutes i guess02:15
viddsluckx, do the reconfig-xorg02:16
sluckxkilled it again02:23
vidddont know what to say....02:25
viddedgy or dapper?02:26
sluckxthat actually is slightly better02:26
sluckxi m running live on vesa now02:26
vidd...your using thew live cd...not installed?02:27
sluckxbut its way slower than the trident module02:27
sluckxno i got it changed with that dpkg without killing it finally02:27
sluckxthats cool02:27
viddstill a little skewed?02:28
sluckxi ll play with xorg02:28
sluckxmuch better02:28
sluckxnot annoying naymore02:28
vidddid you set the vert and hor yourself this time?02:28
sluckxno i let it go on medium set 60hz 1024x76802:28
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sluckxi m gonna check my original xorg with the trident and see if theres any diff02:29
viddtry selecting the 800x600, see if it is still skewed02:29
sluckxi gotta cruz but thanks a lot for the help02:29
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viddwhere is xorg config stored?02:37
Commander-Crowe /etc/X1102:37
viddb4 i mess with it, i want to back it up02:37
Commander-Crowecd /etc/X11/02:38
Commander-Crowesudo cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.backup02:38
Commander-Crowethat'll back it up for ua02:38
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viddalready done02:39
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kalikianaThere might be newbies out here reading that.02:44
Commander-Croweyou don't realize how great that advice is until you've messed up02:46
kalikianaso every noob please type now 'sudo rm -R /' and see what happens *harhar*02:47
kalikianaI'm off02:47
anon_thunar keeps freezing on me02:47
Commander-Croweanon_ reinstall ity from the xfce website02:48
anon_it doesn't like Page Down for some reason02:48
Commander-CroweIt doesn't on mine either02:49
bigfuzzyjesuswewt dillo02:52
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Jester45!seen cellofellow04:45
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pilotAnybody want to help out a total newbie with xubuntu?04:53
Jester45i will try04:55
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Jester45o gtg sorry just stay in here and someone should come soon04:56
j1mcpilot, what do you need help with?04:57
j1mcpilot, are you just installing xubuntu?  what's your question?04:58
pilotI have a lot04:59
pilotof questions04:59
pilotI am trying to figure out why xubuntu crashes on me05:00
j1mci'm not sure if i can help, but when or why does it crash?05:01
pilotI've added a lot of other programs, do you think that some would conflict with one another causing them to malfunction?05:02
pilotWhen I tried to install VMware, it freezes and I am forced to reboot my computer05:03
j1mcpilot, did you just add the programs from the ubuntu repositories, or did you go and install other software from somewhere else?05:03
j1mcpilot, hrm, i'm not sure what the problem could be.05:04
j1mcwhy are you trying to run vmware?05:04
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pilotI am pretty sure I just added them in the repositories but I downloaded Dreamweaver 8 and I wanted to run it in a virtual window05:04
pilotI want to run dreamweaver 8 and other windows programs05:04
j1mcgotcha.  i'm sorry . . . i wish i could help more.  i'm not a total expert myself.05:05
pilotit's alright...I just started a few days ago myself05:06
pilotwhat I've used NVU before and it's a good program but when you spend money on overpriced software you kind of wanna get your moneys worth05:07
pilotAnybody know how to set up dual monitors?05:08
ubotuxinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead05:09
pilotthanks I'll give them a shot and let you know the outcome in a bit. I've tried many times to do this but fail miserably 99% of the time05:11
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pilotWhat is the command to get the xorg.confg file so that I may edit it?05:34
PuMpErNiCkLeDo you want the interactive reconfiguration or just a text editor that can save it?05:38
anon_sudo mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.config ?05:39
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anon_someone who's had Xubuntu installed for more than 24 hours back me up here05:40
maxamillionanon_: what's up?05:40
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anon_answering question: <pilot> What is the command to get the xorg.confg file so that I may edit it?05:40
pilotI am trying to install duel monitors05:41
anon_I said <anon_> sudo mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.config ?05:41
maxamillionsudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf ... or .... gksudo mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:41
pilotone is from my laptop05:41
pilotand the other is for a 19 inch monitor I got from santa05:41
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anon_max, how good are you with fixing mouse issues?05:42
pilotI tried many times to do this but I suck at remembering all the right commands05:42
pilotyou've must have been on his good list05:42
maxamillionanon_: horrible ... i've never had one so never had to fix05:42
anon_my touchpad seems to be overriding my USB mice on my laptop05:42
maxamillionanon_: yeah... not sure :/05:43
anon_don't worry about it05:43
maxamillioni only use the touchpad on my laptop ... never tried using a usb mouse with it05:43
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maxamillionfirefish: can you possibly translate that into english?06:20
firefishsorry , i post it in the wrong channel ,actually it's about a new chinese input resolution software has released,06:23
firefishif you can understand chinese:)06:23
maxamillioni can not, but i do know someone who can and i believe they might be interested ... thanks for the link :)06:25
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Commander-Crowewell I like my new install07:23
Commander-Croweit feels...cleaner07:23
Commander-Crowejust not so simular07:23
maxamillioni sorry07:24
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MajicHi, I have a problem...again.  My wireless connection won't show in the Network Settings window.10:16
MajicAlso:  My wireless card has installed as eth0:avahi  *if that helps*10:16
MajicHow can I get the wireless connection to show in Network Settings?10:17
MajicIt sees it in the device manager--my wireless card--but there is no interface to go with it.10:18
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orBytegood day12:56
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HolravenHi everyone! Easy question: I have a messed-up Ubuntu-installation on an iBook, and I want to format my drive and install Xubuntu. Thing is, I want to copy some files off my hard drive. When booting from the CD, my USB hard drive is automatically mounted, but I can't find my internal hard drive anywhere. How can I mount it to copy my files?01:00
esc_on_anakinwell, you can use "mount" to mounts disks01:02
esc_on_anakinbut you need to know the disks descriptor and where to mount it to01:02
esc_on_anakinfirst hard drive is usually primary master and therefore /dev/hda01:03
esc_on_anakinfirst partition would be /dev/hda101:03
esc_on_anakinsecond /dev/hda201:03
esc_on_anakinand so on01:03
esc_on_anakinyou can do an "ls /mnt/" and see what directories are there01:04
esc_on_anakini'm not in front of an xubuntu machine right now, so i may only be of limited help01:04
HolravenSo "mount /dev/hda1" ?01:05
esc_on_anakinif there is a /mnt/hda101:06
orByteim new to linux, and i don't know how to change the permission of my pendrive which means that i can't write files into it. any idea?01:06
esc_on_anakinHolraven, if there is a "/mnt/hda1" you can just "cd" to "/mnt/" and type "mount hda1"01:07
esc_on_anakinthen "ls hda1/" to see your files, if it worked01:08
esc_on_anakinps, you may have to "sudo" that01:08
Holravenmnt directory is empty. When trying "mount /dev/hda1" I cet "can't find /dev/hda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"01:09
esc_on_anakintry "sudo mkdir /mnt/hda1"01:09
esc_on_anakinto make a mountpoint01:09
esc_on_anakinand then "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1"01:10
esc_on_anakinto mount the drive01:10
HolravenOkay. Made the directory, tried "mount hda1", same error message - can't find ... in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab01:10
HolravenWhen browsing /etc - there is no folder called fstab or mtab...?01:11
HolravenOh, those are files...01:11
esc_on_anakinHolraven, you won't need fstab right now01:11
esc_on_anakinyou can just  "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1" and explicitly mount /dev/hda1 to /mnt/hda101:12
esc_on_anakinfor now to copy the files01:12
esc_on_anakinfstab is a file that lists disks and mountpoints01:12
esc_on_anakinfilesystems and so on01:12
Holraven"You must specify the filesystem type"...01:13
esc_on_anakinyou can use fstab if you want stuff automounted at boot, for example a windows partition01:13
esc_on_anakinah yes01:13
HolravenBut I think we're getting somewhere. ;)01:13
esc_on_anakinso your files aren't on hda101:13
esc_on_anakinyou can use "sudo parted /dev/hda"01:13
pk_butuyah...he should specify the mount point...01:14
esc_on_anakinwhich is a command line tool for viewing partitions on a disk01:14
esc_on_anakinonce in "parted" type "h" for help "p" to print partition table01:14
esc_on_anakinand "q" to quit01:14
pk_butudf or dh or something like that....... can show in in which mount dev his harddisk is mounted..01:14
HolravenWOkay... So number 4 is the linux-swap...01:15
HolravenSo I'd want to mount hda4?01:15
esc_on_anakini guess01:16
esc_on_anakinswap is just swap space for the operating system to put stuff when it needs more memory01:16
Holravenext3 - number 3. Think I'm getting nearer. lol01:16
pk_butuplz try with.....$sudo df -l01:17
esc_on_anakini guess an ext3 partition will be what you want01:17
esc_on_anakinpk_butu, the disk isn't mounted yet01:17
HolravenHaha success!01:17
esc_on_anakinokay, just don't get confused as /dev/hda3 is mounted on /mnt/hda101:18
HolravenThank you very much, Anakin - I'm in your debt. ;)01:18
esc_on_anakinand now you can use "df -hl" to view the mounted filesystems01:18
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esc_on_anakinesc, the name is esc... anakin is just the machine i'm on01:18
grazieHolraven: you can put the output of 'sudo mac-fdisk -l /dev/hda' to pastbin if you want us to check01:19
esc_on_anakin!info mac-fdisk01:19
gunny01I'm trying to play a cd. when I put it in the drive, I get a pop-up asking whether I want to play the music or view the files. No matter what I click, I can't find the music, even when I open rythmbox. Any help please?01:19
ubotuPackage mac-fdisk does not exist in any distro I know01:19
HolravenI can browse the filesystem, no problem - but how can I unlock folders - "permission denied"?01:20
grazie'ubotu' doesn't know something!01:20
esc_on_anakinunlock the folders???01:20
esc_on_anakini thought you just wanted to copy some files across?01:21
HolravenI'm in the "home" folder on my hard drive, and some folders are inaccessible, I don't have permission to open them. How can I claim permission?01:21
esc_on_anakinas in you have no read privileges?01:22
esc_on_anakineither.. use "sudo" to fool around in them01:22
esc_on_anakinor use "chmod"01:23
grazieesc_on_anakin: fool around?!01:23
esc_on_anakin:-) i dunno01:23
esc_on_anakinfirst thing that popped into my head01:23
esc_on_anakinanyway, chmod is the tool to change the modifiers on a file01:24
grazieHolraven: you probably just need to prefix you commands with 'sudo' to get privs01:24
esc_on_anakineverything in linux is a file01:24
HolravenAs in "sudo chmod 777 *.*"?01:24
esc_on_anakinthat would change permissions to rwxrwxrxw01:25
grazieHolraven: no. as in 'sudo ls'01:25
HolravenBut if I want to chmod an entire folder..?01:25
gunny01!info playing cds01:26
esc_on_anakiner.. um...01:26
ubotuPackage playing does not exist in edgy01:26
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grazieHolraven: or  'sudo cp -a ....'01:26
esc_on_anakinchmod has the -R switch for recursive01:26
esc_on_anakinbut chmod 777 makes files executable too,. i.e. rwxrwxrwx01:27
esc_on_anakinchmod 666 makes them read-writable i.e. rw-rw-rw-01:27
esc_on_anakinand chmod 600 makes them read-writable only by yourself, i.e. rw-------01:28
grazieHolraven: you don't want to change access privs! You are just trying to backup your data, yes?01:28
esc_on_anakinyou can see permissions with ls -lah01:28
esc_on_anakinl for long, a for all, and h for human readable filesizes01:28
HolravenI'm trying to backup my data, but I want my folders to be accessible on my removable media - from any given OS on any given machine.01:30
HolravenAnd by using the chmod-function, I "unlocked" one of the folders, so I imagined doing that for all folders and files would solve my problem quite elegantly..?01:31
esc_on_anakindepends on the filesystem, on your usb-hard-drive01:31
esc_on_anakincause i don't think windows will honour ext3 permissions01:32
HolravenBut I'll format and reinstall Xubuntu.01:33
esc_on_anakinHolraven, i would recommend backing up the data and worrying about file-permissions later01:33
grazieHolraven: you are making life difficult for yourself01:33
HolravenHehehe. I know. I could have run OS X instead... ;)01:33
esc_on_anakinyeah, cross that bridge when you come to it :-)01:34
esc_on_anakinOS X eh?01:34
HolravenIt's an iBook.01:34
esc_on_anakini wish i had a mac :-(01:34
HolravenI wish I didn't. :D01:34
HolravenI got it for free.01:34
pk_butuwhich version of VIM is coming with Xubuntu 6.10? actually sytnax highlighting is not working in my case....it says old version...01:34
esc_on_anakinHolraven, is it an intel chip, or powerpc?01:34
grazieHolraven: just 'sudo cp -a <source> <destination>'01:35
HolravenIt's a G3 500 Mhz - old as hell. That's why I want to run "X"ubuntu...01:35
HolravenUbuntu was a bit sloooow...01:35
grazieppc. hence mac-fdisk01:35
HolravenMp3's wouldn't play fluently.01:36
esc_on_anakinyou could also try something esoteric, like grml or DSL01:36
grazieesc_on_anakin: no! PPC01:36
esc_on_anakingrazie, ah, ok, i was wondering what mac-fdisk is for01:36
esc_on_anakinDSL is not for PPC?01:36
pk_butuany idea abt vim syntax highlighting?01:36
HolravenSeriously folks. Let me be a newbie and do my thing in "File Manager" - and chmod does the works for me. So how can I apply chmod changes to all subfolders and files?01:37
grazieesc_on_anakin: mac-fdisk is the mac equiv of fdisk01:37
esc_on_anakingrazie, yeah i guessed that much, just didn't get as far as PPC01:37
esc_on_anakinnow you say it it seems so.. obvious01:37
HolravenOh. By using "*" instead of "*.*"....01:39
grazieHolraven: trust us. you don't want to change the access privs. you are achieving nothing01:39
HolravenIt's not that I don't trust you, it's just that, by changing privs, folders and files are accessible via the File Manager - the GUI. Which is a relief to me. I'm no terminal geek, I try to use the commands I remember from good ol' MS-DOS, only to find that some work and some don't... :P01:40
grazieHolraven: if you want to use thunar (file manager) then in terminal 'gksu thunar &'01:42
esc_on_anakini used to have open windows, but now i have open bsd.01:42
HolravenAha. Now that *did* work.01:43
HolravenOkay. Step one, I copy all my stash to the USB drive. Fast forward to step three, copying my stash *back* to my hard-drive after re-install. Will these permissions still haunt me?01:44
esc_on_anakinfind out when you get there01:44
grazieHolraven: be very careful using thunar like this. You can TRASH you system very easily by doing something silly01:44
HolravenMy system's trashed already!01:44
esc_on_anakin"terminal geek" sounds like a chronic illness lol..01:45
HolravenI left the iBook in suspended mode for nine or ten days, battery went dead. On reboot, GNOME won't start, nothing works!01:45
HolravenEven when booting Ubuntu from CD!01:45
HolravenSo now I'm trying Xubuntu, which works better.01:45
HolravenThe installer crashes, though. :S01:45
esc_on_anakinif gnome wont start from CD, that may suggest a defective CD or faulty hardware01:46
esc_on_anakinthats a bit worrying01:46
HolravenI doubt it. It seems it somehow loads settings from somewhere...01:46
grazieHolraven: don't worry. you can boot Xubuntu live cd, all is well!01:47
esc_on_anakinthough you do need... what 196 MB of ram to use the live CDs, not sure01:47
HolravenI'm running xubuntu cd right now.01:47
HolravenI'm typing from my PC at the mo.01:48
esc_on_anakinbut gnome sucks anyway, and so does KdE... In my very own humble opinion01:48
grazieesc_on_anakin: too true01:48
HolravenAnd xubuntu uses...what?01:48
esc_on_anakinhence the X in "Xubuntu"01:48
HolravenWhich stands for?01:48
HolravenX F(ile) C E(dition)? Hehe.01:49
ubotuxubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels01:49
esc_on_anakinapparently its so old, that even the developers can't remember what it stands for01:49
DarthLappyHow does one pronounce "XFCE"? :)01:49
esc_on_anakini pronounce it EXEFCEEEE01:49
DarthLappyYa, I do that too... But it should be "Ex-face" or something cool :D01:50
esc_on_anakinbut then again i also say "ESS QUE EL" instread of "sequel" for SQL01:50
DarthLappyHeh :)01:51
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HolravenXubuntu doesn't ship with OpenOffice?01:51
DarthLappyIt comes with Writer, I think.01:51
esc_on_anakinotherwise use synaptic(?)01:51
esc_on_anakinto install it01:51
grazieesc_on_anakin: it's "sequel" and "My ESS QUE EL" - apparently01:51
HolravenIn the end, even though using the root account Thunar-thingy, I had to use chmod to copy some of the files. So there.01:53
DarthLappyRoot on Thunar? That doesn't sound wise..01:53
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HolravenI'm formatting anyhow... ;)01:54
esc_on_anakini recommend making a seperate partition for /home/, that way you won't have to backup your files again if feel the need to install a new distro or OS01:55
esc_on_anakininkl settings for firefox (bookmarks) and so on :-)01:56
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HolravenWe'll see... ;)01:59
sdac221x_ctrl+alt+Fx takes me to fuzzy colored screen instead of virtual terminal.  any ideas ?02:00
esc_on_anakinIntel i810 chipset?02:00
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DarthLappyesc_on_anakin: ATi, I believe.02:01
esc_on_anakinno idea, i think i've had problems with intel810 and intel915, and radeon 700 chipsets in the past02:02
grazieHolraven: although you can run the xubuntu live cd, you still MAY have bother using the gui installer if your ram is less than 256M02:03
esc_on_anakinin my experiance it helps to boot with "vag=ask" and then select "0".. somehow02:03
DarthLappys/vag/vga/ ?02:03
sdac221x_ctrl+alt+Fx shows a colored fuzzy screen instead of a vitrual console.   ctrl+alt+f7 takes me back to xfce screen.  any ideas ?02:04
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graziesdac221x_: should work...dunno02:04
esc_on_anakinsdac221x_, you could try booting with the option "vga=ask" and then select the lowest mode available02:05
esc_on_anakini.e. 002:05
sdac221x_running xunbutu edgy on lenovo t60.02:05
sdac221x_no i am just booting normally02:05
sdac221x_i have ati drivers installed if that makes a difference02:06
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:06
sdac221x_ye i followed a guide on the internet so driver seems to be working fine02:07
esc_on_anakinsdac221x_, the only thing i can think of now, is to boot with "vga=ask" and select the lowest mode02:07
sdac221x_anakin:   how do i boot with the vga=ask option.  sorry im new to linux02:07
graziesdac221x_: did ctrl-atl-fx work before you installed the driver?02:07
sdac221x_i didnt try it back then.  basically i am trying to go to terminal to see if my laptop brightness buttons work from there02:08
esc_on_anakinin grub, i think its e to edit a line, or so, can't remember exactly02:08
sdac221x_anakin:  ok i think i know the place02:08
esc_on_anakinand the add "vga=ask" to the kernel stanza02:09
graziesdac221x_: you could easily go back to the open source driver and try it02:09
sdac221x_on a side note:  is there a terminal command that sets laptop screen brightness as the fn+HOME/END buttons dont work on my t6002:09
esc_on_anakinyes, or use the secondary bootoption, i.e. recovery,,whats it called again02:09
graziesdac221x_: i think open source is just 'ati' in /etc/X11/xorg.conf for ATI cards02:10
sdac221x_ok ill try that02:11
ubotuaptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide02:12
esc_on_anakinsdac221x_, tuxmobil.org is a good site for finding information about linux on laptops02:13
esc_on_anakinmaybe you can find some advice there02:13
DarthLappyapt-get does that too. >_<02:13
DarthLappyEek, my PC is lagging.02:16
esc_on_anakintry "top"02:17
DarthLappyLots to xorg, lame and gaim.02:18
DarthLappyLame I can understand. Maybe not so much the other two.02:18
esc_on_anakinever heard of "nice" ?02:18
esc_on_anakinnice allows you tgo modify the scheduling priority of a program02:19
DarthLappyAh cool.02:19
DarthLappyWell on an 850MHz PIII, it'll just take me ages if I down the priority of lame.02:20
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Grey_LokiThat's the baby02:20
esc_on_anakini'm on celeron 600, 156 MB ram02:21
DarthLappyCool :D02:21
esc_on_anakinjust the PC at work that i built for myself from spare parts that were lying around, so i don't have to haul my laptop in every day02:22
esc_on_anakini have a PIII 1000 Mhz lying around here too, but the board won't have it02:23
sdac221x_what does it mean when people type !xyz ?02:23
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ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots02:23
esc_on_anakinits the function to query the infobot02:23
esc_on_anakinright, weekend time, cu all02:28
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xStream_Hi! Where can I find the xubuntu herd3 iso?02:51
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graziexStream_: here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/current/03:02
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Dh3Y0hi, i cant find my volume control and  i dont think my microphone is working, help?03:16
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Dh3Y0!volume control03:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about volume control - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:20
Dh3Y0!file manager03:20
ubotufile: Determines file type using "magic" numbers. In component main, is standard. Version 4.17-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 30 kB, installed size 100 kB03:20
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grazieDh3Y0: what's your first problem?03:23
grazieDh3Y0: there's a volume control you can easily add to the panel03:28
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michaelpodoes xfce support democracyplayer?03:39
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michaelpodoes xfce support getdemocracyplayer from www.getdemocracy.com ?03:41
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Dh3Y0grazie: u still here mate?03:47
Dh3Y0i ve got the colume control up now03:48
Dh3Y0but theres nothing in it03:48
Dh3Y0btw i m not in the s.user03:48
grazieDh3Y0: back. multi-tasking. I don't understand 'nothing in it'03:49
Dh3Y0yeah i mean like theres no device03:50
Dh3Y0everything is blank03:50
grazieDh3Y0: what version of xubuntu you using?03:50
grazieDh3Y0: never used dapper, so I don't no if it's supported on that version. there should be a little vertical bar after adding it03:54
michaelpohow much better is 6.10 compared to 6.06?03:55
michaelpodoes the feisty beta crash a lot?03:57
grazie!democracy | michaelpo03:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about democracy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:58
graziemichaelpo: democracy is in the repos, but I can't tell you anything more03:59
michaelpoit's not in 6.06 repo04:00
graziemichaelpo: ok. it's in the edgy repo04:01
michaelpomaybe i just wait for 7.04 final... only 2 months to wait....04:05
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graziePuMpErNiCkLe: I can't see any xubuntu 7.04 tracking bugs - am i missing something?04:44
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grazieanybody ^^04:46
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graziehi maxamillion05:08
graziemaxamillion: I'm looking for  xubuntu 7.04 tracking bugs - can't find anything05:09
maxamilliongrazie: ah ... just a moment, let me get you a link05:09
Maximilian1stHi Max and ... grazie05:10
maxamillionMaximilian1st: hi hi05:10
grazieMaximilian1st: hi05:10
maxamilliongrazie: there is a new procedure for testing and reporting bugs as of feisty herd3 .... here is the wiki entry with details https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ReportingResults05:11
graziemaxamillion: yes, seen that. There's tracking bugs for ubuntu, kubuntu, edutuntu, but not for xubuntu05:12
graziemaxamillion: Am I missing something?05:13
maxamilliongrazie: just a moment05:14
graziemaxamillion: at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-iso-tests/+bugs05:14
maxamilliongrazie: right, you just enter a bug (if/when found) with the naming convention "<date> xubuntu <processor architecture> <image type (desktop|alternate)>"05:16
maxamilliongrazie: i think that just means that nobody has reported a bug for xubuntu yet05:16
graziemaxamillion: not done this before so probably misunderstood, but I thought all the iso releases needed a tracking bug (set up by admin)05:18
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graziemaxamillion: you use it for passing/failing tests don't you?05:19
maxamilliongrazie: i think they changed it for this release so they are able to keep all bugs in the same place as to not duplicate work between distros05:19
maxamilliongrazie: well, technically you just report bugs .... like in Herd2 the network manager wouldn't launch from the desktop live cd, that would be something you should submit as a bug05:20
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graziemaxamillion: so how do they keep a tab on who has tested what?05:21
maxamillionerrr.... on xubuntu.org*05:21
maxamilliongrazie: you have to have a launchpad account to submit bugs, it will tell them who reported what in launchpad05:22
graziemaxamillion: got account. but if find no bugs, how do I report my tests?05:22
maxamilliongrazie: uhmmm.... don't think you do, i can setup a wiki like the one for herd2 if you would like to report success05:23
maxamillionslow-motion: hello05:23
slow-motionhi maxamillion05:24
graziemaxamillion: erm...doesn't sound quite right to me?05:24
grazieMaximilian1st: you do some testing don't you?05:26
maxamilliongrazie: i honestly don't know ... i have kinda been trying to go with what i can, i haven't been in contact with any devs or Cody lately ... are you a member of the -devel mailing list?05:27
graziemaxamillion: no. i find mailing lists hard to keep up with05:28
graziemaxamillion: i was ubuntu a while ago...just too much info05:29
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cheatersrealmvlc plays most everything, right?  so I wouldn't need stuff like gxine, xine, and ogle?05:29
maxamilliongrazie: ok, well i'll tell you what ... i will make a post to the -devel mailing list right now and ask about it and as soon as i get a reply back i will let you know05:29
maxamillioncheatersrealm: right ... you might need some media codecs though05:29
graziemaxamillion: cheers!05:29
cheatersrealmmaxamillion: that's ok, I just don't like having 50 media players05:30
graziecheatersrealm: no. vlc comes with all the codecs! REALLY GOOD!05:30
cheatersrealmyeah, I like vlc05:31
cheatersrealmgrazie: are you sure I don't need dvd playing codecs with ubuntu vlc?05:31
graziei still use mplayer for movies, but if I could only have one media player it would be vlc05:32
graziecheatersrealm: i didn't install any05:32
cheatersrealmxubuntu-desktop depends on gxine05:32
cheatersrealmthat breaks upgrade compatability, doesn't it?05:33
maxamillioncheatersrealm: xubuntu-desktop is just a meta package, if you want to remove gxine and it says it will remove xubuntu-desktop its fine05:33
maxamillioncheatersrealm: but if it starts saying it will remove packages like xfce4, xorg, etc. ... don't do it, something is wrong and there is a fix for that05:33
cheatersrealmhow do I edit the system menu?05:37
cheatersrealmI really just need to figure out what one item is calling05:37
graziecheatersrealm: you may right about vlc and dvds, as my ppc machine will not play them (but's that a feisty herd 3 alpha)05:38
graziecheatersrealm: the menu is controlled by .desktop files in /usr/share/applications05:39
cheatersrealmok, thanks05:39
cheatersrealmcool, one media player to rule them all05:41
maxamilliondynasty media player :P05:41
graziemaxamillion: dynasty media player? do you mean democracy media player?05:43
cheatersrealmgrazie: the reason that ubuntu doesn't include dvd playing, is because it would have to be derived from DeCSS, which makes it illegal.  otherwise they would have to pay money to DVD Copy Control something or other05:45
maxamilliongrazie: no, i was making a joke about vlc being the media player to rule them all, thus its "the dynasty media player"05:46
graziecheatersrealm: yeah, I understand the legal issue, but vlc gets by the mp3 issue, so I'd assumed the for DVDs05:46
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graziemaxamillion: right ok. there is a democracy media player though...it's supposed to be the one and only...05:48
maxamilliongrazie: interesting05:48
cheatersrealmwell, it's almost noon05:48
cheatersrealmand time for a wee nap05:48
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Gorlistquick question - having problems with OpenOffice05:50
maxamillionGorlist: shoot, i have class in 5 minutes05:50
Gorlistfinding the the application window at the top is a horrible mess of colours05:50
Gorlistscreenshot of my Desktop with OO open05:50
maxamillionoh wow05:50
maxamillionyou running beryl or anything?05:51
maxamillionGorlist: you would know if you were, its quite the process to setup05:51
Gorlistreasonably fresh install of latest Xubuntu05:51
Gorlistah right05:51
Gorlistwell everything else seems fine, just OO05:51
maxamillionthat's really strange.... (yeah, i don't use OO because it always gives me problems)05:51
Gorlistthe problem is I need OpenOffice ideally as all the other systems run it05:52
maxamillioni unfortunately have no clue how you would fix that05:52
Gorlist ive got that alot so far :(05:52
Gorlistno reply on the forums either05:52
Gorlistonly thing I have removed is Abiword & Gnumeric05:52
maxamillionGorlist: why do you _need_ it? ... abiword can edit the .odt "word" documents and gnumeric can edit OO spreadsheets05:52
Gorlist(though reinstalled Gnumeric after i found this problem)05:52
Gorlisthmm i tried,05:53
grazieGorlist: what version of xubuntu?05:53
grazieno problems here05:54
maxamillionGorlist: i have to run, but try "sudo aptitude install openoffice.org-gtk" ... might help resolve gtk theme issues (which is what it looks like it is choking on)05:54
maxamillionlaters all05:54
Gorlistok thanks will try it now05:55
Gorlistdoes gnumeric save ods files?05:55
max_at_classGorlist: doesn't look like it05:56
Gorlistthats the problem05:56
Gorlist :)05:56
Gorlisthave a good class05:56
Gorlistthanks for the help anyhow05:56
Gorlistinstalled the GTK - worked great! thank you :)05:57
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rpoghello, i was wondering if anyone know how to access windows shared folders. suposing i installed xubuntu just now06:23
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT06:23
rpogi already did apt-get install samba06:23
rpogand tried alt+f2 and tried the smb://<ip> but says doesnt exist :S06:23
rpogthat smb isnt installed that is06:24
rpogbut i'll read upon that thx.06:24
rpogi'd rather read a guide ...06:28
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ir2hi guys06:31
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tuuksihi there! anyone aware why my NIC isn't recognised by xubuntu?06:53
tuuksirealtek 8139-chipset06:53
foogywhat does ifconfig say?06:53
tuuksiwell, basically nothing.06:54
tuuksijust shows eth0, lo and sit0 (whatever that is)06:54
foogyno eth0 or eth1?06:54
foogyare there any other network devices in your computer? wireless lan?06:54
tuuksijust eth0 and the other card06:56
foogyif not, then eth0 should be your realtek adapter06:56
tuuksiit's not06:56
tuuksiit's the other NIC06:56
tuuksiah sorry. I got 2 NIC's in my computer: 1 via-rhine, and 1 realtek06:57
foogywhat's a "via rhine" adapter?06:58
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tuuksiit's a module to be exact. I'm not aware of the model of the specific NIC which uses the via-rhine module06:58
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Maximilian1stHi again.07:22
grazieMaximilian1st: do you know if you Xfburn is planned to be fixed?07:27
Maximilian1stWhat do you mean? Is it broken?07:27
Maximilian1stJean-Francois Wauthy is the author.07:27
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grazieI think it is broken in dapper and feisty. it is for me and i've seen stuff on the forums, but no recent bug07:28
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graziedapper and edgy ^07:30
Maximilian1stI will transmit this to the author, could you send me a link to these complaints?07:30
Maximilian1stgrazie, The xubuntu CD is missing from the download site???!!!07:33
grazieMaximilian1st: no the iso is there. I was looking for a tracking bug to test against, but max_at_class is asking about it for me07:35
Maximilian1stgrazie, is this the right place to look for it? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/07:36
grazieMaximilian1st: you've misunderstood me. i have the iso images. No problem with that07:37
grazieMaximilian1st: I thought everyone had the Xfburn problem. here's one link https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ticket/325307:37
Maximilian1stThen I didn't make myself clear. It's me who can't find the isos... ;-p07:38
graziesorry... two ticks07:39
grazieMaximilian1st:  download from here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ReportingResults07:41
Maximilian1stgrazie, Grazie :-)07:43
graziei should say prego?07:43
tuuksianyone know why my realtek NIC card doesn't show up in ifconfig with xubuntu, although it appeared just an hour ago in debian?07:49
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foogyhey tuuksi, did you solve your problem? I had visitors08:02
tuuksifoogy: no.08:03
tuuksithis sucks ass08:03
tuuksibut I dunno, probably gonna change the distro08:04
tuuksiopensuse downloading. :(08:04
foogypoor solution ;)08:04
Maximilian1sttuuksi, this is a good thing to do, try out other distros and make the choice.08:05
Maximilian1sttwo different views we have :-p08:05
foogydid you try to disable the via-rhein adapter in your BIOS?08:05
tuuksifoogy: why should I?08:05
tuuksiit's PCI-card anyways08:06
foogywhy do you need two network adapters at the same time?08:06
tuuksiother connecting to my adsl-modem, other connecting to my wlan access point08:06
foogyand other operating systems recognize both adapters without problems? or never tried?08:07
tuuksiyes. debian just recognized it perfectly just an hour ago08:07
tuuksibut i had problems with installing xfce08:08
tuuksitherefore thought xubuntu would work better08:08
foogyperhaps someone might help me on that issue: after suspend or hibernation, i cannot set my lcd britghtness any more (Toshiba Laptop)08:08
foogyI did a fresh install with xubuntu a couple of days before. since that time I'm experiencing problems I didn't have before with Ubuntu (using GNOME and also XFCE)08:09
Maximilian1stfoogy, Do you use edgy or feisty?08:10
Maximilian1stI see.08:10
foogyI used the alternative install cd08:10
Maximilian1stdon't try feisty yet as the toshiba support is broken08:10
Maximilian1stI had it working also in edgy08:10
Maximilian1stI use a Toshiba Portg R20008:10
foogythanks for your warning. I didn't plan to try before the final release08:10
foogy<- Portg M200 ;)08:10
Maximilian1stAfter suspend I also had problems with gentoo.08:11
Maximilian1stjust switched to xubuntu this year.08:11
foogyand you can still change your lcd brightness after suspend?08:11
foogyIt always works after a fresh boot08:11
Maximilian1stafter suspend you have to do...08:11
Maximilian1stHey maxamillion :-)08:12
maxamillionhi hi08:12
Maximilian1stfoogy, you probably have to stop and restart the acpid script08:12
foogyI will try immediately...08:13
Maximilian1st/etc/init.d/acpid stop && /etc/init.d/acpid start08:13
foogyno, this does not work. services stopped and started again, but the function keys do not work08:14
Maximilian1stfoogy, but it works from a fresh boot.08:14
Maximilian1sttry to stop and restart the acpi-support script...08:16
foogyno, it won't help08:17
Maximilian1stfoogy, Is it only the LCD brightness that does not work or all the fn keys functions?08:17
foogyat least the "Speaker on/off" key does not seem to work, too08:18
Maximilian1stfoogy, try this in the console as root toshset -lcd08:19
Maximilian1sttoshset -lcd08:19
Maximilian1stWhat does it say?08:19
foogySCI error: argument required08:20
foogylcd brightness: super-bright08:20
foogypassing any parameter does not seem to change anything08:21
Maximilian1sttry "toshset -q"08:21
grazieMaximilian1st: You said toshiba support is broken on feisty.  Is that all toshiba hw or just complete laptops?08:22
Maximilian1stI think it is only the laptops grazie08:22
foogyok, toshset -q now listed all settings08:23
Maximilian1stThe acpi is not working in feisty08:23
Maximilian1stthe rest is worjking of yourse08:23
Maximilian1stworking and course08:23
foogy"lcd intensity 7/7"08:23
foogyusing toshset -inten 1 is accepted, but the intensity does not change08:24
Maximilian1stfoogy, try taking out the module and probing it again08:26
Maximilian1stIt should be called toshiba_acpi08:26
Maximilian1stlsmod | grep tos08:27
foogyi know lsmod, modprobe...but I forgot how to remove a module :D08:27
Maximilian1stmodprobe -r modulebla08:28
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foogymodule reloaded, but still no success08:29
foogybut it works on your laptop after suspend? on xubuntu?08:29
Maximilian1stI have feisty here and the module is not installed in it anymore.08:30
Maximilian1stI have to compile my own kernel, will do that sometime soon08:30
Maximilian1stAs it bothers me much that I can't change the brightness of the LCD08:30
Maximilian1stDo you have two modules toshiba loaded?08:31
foogyit doesn't bother me as long as i'm connected to ac power08:31
Maximilian1stI'm in a bit of a dark environment here and the screen si way too bright.08:31
foogyI hibernated with a too dark display ;)08:32
foogyok, I only have toshiba_acpi loaded, but...08:32
Maximilian1stDon't call me but!08:32
foogy...but lsmod | grep acpi shows me several acpi modules loaded: sony_acpi, pcc_acpi, dev_acpi, asus_acpi08:33
Maximilian1stThey make kernels with all the modules for all the hardware so everyone can use it on their own computer.08:34
Maximilian1stmaxamillion, or grazie that is something I was wondering, these modules that are loaded, how can one tell which one to keep and which one not?08:38
foogydoes someone use "fnfxd" for laptop function keys? I installed it in order to remove my problems with suspend, but it didn't help me out08:38
Maximilian1stYour problem is not related to the keys scripts but to acpi and toshiba modules.08:38
Maximilian1stfoogy, I did use fnfx on gentoo but then I used the standard acpi scripts like you do now to use the fn keys-.08:39
Maximilian1stthis is the way to go.08:39
foogyshould xev respond to my fn-keys?08:39
Maximilian1stI am not sure.08:39
foogyat the moment xev does not output anything.08:40
Maximilian1stfoogy, it does here08:41
Maximilian1sttry this08:41
Maximilian1stand type the letter k08:41
Maximilian1stit is keycode 4508:42
Maximilian1stif you keep fn pressed and press k it will be code 8808:42
Maximilian1stfoogy, Is this working as expected?08:42
foogyyes, it is08:42
foogyi just found out that xev does not respond to all fn-Fxx key combinations08:43
Maximilian1styou are right08:44
foogyI'll do a fresh boot now and will be right back...08:44
Maximilian1stit does not respond to the Fx keys here.08:44
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Maximilian1stI also have a question :-(08:45
foogyi made "lsmd > modules_suspend.txt" and will compare the list of loaded modules to the list i get after a fresh boot08:45
foogyask your question, I'll think about it while rebooting ;)08:45
Maximilian1stI am trying to install the madwifi module from SVN on the newly installed kernel in feisty08:46
Maximilian1stbut I have an error message about some gpl in ath_hal...08:46
foogydoes not sound like a kind of problem that I could assist...sorry. ok, will be right back...08:47
Maximilian1stSmall community, Linux :-)08:47
Maximilian1stI was just staring at the list of names logged in this channel, all the same folks...08:48
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foogythe only difference between both module lists is module "tun". it is only listed after the fresh boot08:58
foogyobviously not the reason08:59
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Maximilian1stfoogy, the reason really lies in some of the modules not emerging normally after the suspend09:00
Maximilian1stAs I said, in gentoo I only needed to reload the scripts for it to come back to normal.09:00
foogythis is how to manually set the lcd brightness on toshiba laptops:  echo "brightness:7" > /proc/acpi/toshiba/lcd09:04
foogyworks fine. i'm gonna try this after hibernation and see what will happen09:05
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foogynow it still works after hibernate09:09
Maximilian1stwith the command line?09:10
Maximilian1stor with the keys?09:10
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foogyand after suspend, too09:10
Maximilian1stSome modules may stay in the way after a suspend...09:10
foogyhm. there must be something that turns off that functionality from time to time09:10
Maximilian1stI just installed a new kernel and will give it a try.09:11
Maximilian1stAre you using 2.6.17?09:12
foogygood luck!09:12
Maximilian1stbe back later.09:12
foogysee ya09:12
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Maximilian1stI did not do what I wanted but I am a bit further in the problem with the toshiba module in the newer ubuntu kernels...09:32
foogybetter than nothing09:33
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xxl3wis there anyway to install xubuntu via network?09:35
foogywhat's your cpu temperature while being idle? mine is 48C @ 600Mhz. I thought about trying to reduce my cpu core voltage using the uservcore kernel patch09:35
foogyyes, xxl3w09:35
xxl3wwoo hoo109:35
xxl3wany readme about this?09:35
xxl3wif so, can you link?09:35
foogyhm...I've bookmarked a german how-to. But this does probably not help you09:36
Maximilian1stfoogy, sure it is09:36
Maximilian1stsend in09:36
xxl3wi think i just found it09:36
foogygoogle for "xubuntu alternative network"09:36
xxl3wit's on the unbunto documentatio, right?09:36
foogyshould be. If you found a how-to, then use it. I do not find the link at the moment09:37
foogyMaximilian1st: what do you mean?09:37
Maximilian1stAh, I thought you had a link for me...09:38
Maximilian1stkein problem.09:38
foogyhatte es mir fast gedacht bei dem nick09:38
Maximilian1stsondern ich bin kein nativ deutsch sprachiger09:39
foogywas ist dir lieber? deutsch oder englisch?09:39
foogyhier ein how-to fr die cpu-spannung: http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/17747/09:40
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tictacaddicthello, I have a problem.09:41
Maximilian1stGo see a doctor09:41
tictacaddicta linux doctor?09:41
Maximilian1stYou said you have a problem, not your computer?09:42
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tictacaddictI have a problem with my computer09:42
tictacaddictbut I love my computer09:42
Maximilian1sthe doesn't09:42
Maximilian1stlove is blind09:42
Maximilian1stI know it is tough09:42
Maximilian1stsuch is life09:43
Maximilian1stgo on tictacthing09:43
Maximilian1stspit it out09:43
tictacaddictit won't boot.  I copied all my files (from three partitions) to a new hard disk and installed grub09:43
tictacaddictit gets stuck at some point09:43
foogycomputers are gread. you pay a lot of money to spend several hours to solve problems you did not have before09:43
Maximilian1stfoogy, my laptop stops at 600 and with this patch you can go even further down?09:43
Maximilian1stbuy apple09:44
foogyMaximilian1st: I do not mean the frequency, but the voltage.09:44
Maximilian1ststuck at some point... wait, let me look in my divination bowl...09:44
tictacaddictI think it has something to do with the fact that I was using software raid before but not now09:44
Maximilian1stYou saved all your data?09:45
tictacaddictI have not removed it from the first drive09:45
tictacaddictI think it is all in tact09:46
foogyI'll give it a try. my battery time really sucks. reducing the core voltage should give me at least 15 to 30 minutes09:47
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foogytictacaddict: "get stuck at some point" is quite general09:48
tictacaddictyes I know.  I believe it happens when trying to set up some raid devices that are no longer present09:48
tictacaddictI want to try to skip that part in the startup09:49
tictacaddictand see if it helps09:49
Maximilian1stCan you boot with a cd tictacaddict09:50
foogydamn, someone throw some bandwith!09:50
tictacaddictyes I am using a livecd right now09:50
Maximilian1stlook in fstab if it tries to mount something that does not exist anymore09:51
Maximilian1stlook in modules if there are any listed that should not09:51
tictacaddictI changed fstab, I think it is all kosher09:51
Maximilian1stlook in init.d if there is a script that should not be there anymore...09:51
Maximilian1stwhat is htat?09:51
foogy"all right"09:52
Maximilian1stkosher, allright?09:52
tictacaddictthat's what I mean by it09:52
tictacaddictI believe actually it means food that Jewish people can eat.09:52
Maximilian1stmaxamillion, grazie any help here?09:53
foogypeople belonging to the islam are only allowed meat and other food that has been produced in a "kosher" way.09:53
maxamillionMaximilian1st: huh? ... sorry, its really busy here at work09:53
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Maximilian1stmaxamillion, it's all right, don't bother09:53
tictacaddictI moved a file out of /etc/rcS.d and I'm going to try to restart.09:55
foogywhatever "elivized" means, I hope it makes his system still boot ;)09:56
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Maximilian1stfoogy, could you check the file in /etc/modprobe.d/toshiba...09:57
Maximilian1stand tell me what you have in it?09:57
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foogywhich file do you mean?09:58
Maximilian1stThe toshiba one...09:58
Maximilian1stit's toshiba_acpi.modprobe09:59
foogyoptions toshiba_acpi hotkeys_over_acpi=109:59
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Maximilian1stinserting this module with these options does not work in feisty.09:59
Maximilian1stAt least I narrowed the problem a bit more10:00
foogywhy are you even working around with feisty?10:00
Maximilian1stLiving dangerously?10:00
Maximilian1stBut it has a price10:01
foogyThis was a stupid question. Never seen any linux user just using his system to do everyday work. or, in other words: "why I play around with feisty?...because I can!"10:04
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BrendanMSo I have an issue where files I download and save to the desktop don't actually show up on the desktop, but then if I go in Thunar and browse to desktop, they are there.11:01
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BrendanMDoes anyone have any idea what could be causing this/how to fix it?11:01
maxamillionBrendanM: Alt+F2 "xfdesktop" and hit enter ... should come back, it just sounds like xfce isn't managing the desktop (a common problem that has been fixed in feisty and will release in april)11:03
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foogythis even happens when xfce manages the desktop11:04
foogyit takes some time until the newly created files appear11:04
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foogyat least on my system11:04
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foogybtw: is this a bug or just not foreseen in xfce: i cannot draw a rectangle to select more than one document on the desktop11:06
BrendanMyeah, running xfdesktop didn't fix it11:07
BrendanMis it possible I have too much stuff on the desktop?11:07
BrendanMI have a fair number of things, not like covering the desktop, but still11:07
maxamillionBrendanM: not sure ... i don't keep things there :/11:09
foogyI only have a few documents. same issue.11:09
BrendanMhmm, any workarounds you've found foogy? Or should I just wait for feisty?11:12
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zOapI'm trying to install xfce-xmms-plugin, but I get message that I need libxfcegui4-1.0 but I have 4-4 installed and can't find 4-1 anywhere.. any hints?11:12
foogyyou can press F5 on the desktop, then new files should appear11:12
Jester45whats F5 do?11:13
BrendanMit looks like a refresh, but it doesn't work for me11:14
foogyF5 on the desktop refreshes11:14
foogywtf?? http://www.cafepress.com/ubuntushop.1458069511:18
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BrendanMhahaha, awesome11:23
BrendanMI wonder if it's "open source"11:23
zOapBrendanM, when I looked over the file list for xfce-xmms-plugin I noticed that the ones I downloaded is supposed to work in xfce 4-4. It even says it needs no dependencies other than xfce4-4 and the players(xmms, beep etc). which means there has to be some sort of bug in the source, maybe its built on an early beta, prelibxfcegui4-1?11:24
foogyif you ever see a girl with this thong, MARRY HER!11:24
UbugtuXFCE bug 4 in xffm "Right click context menu broken" [Normal,Closed: fixed]  http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=411:24
BrendanMz0ap, I don't know. I'm hardly an expert on Xubuntu. It's possible it was built on an early beta. You could try finding the file it's asking for somewhere, that's the only thing I'd think to do. But I don't know if that would cause conflicts with the later version.11:26
zOapBrendanM, yeah that was my first thought, bbut I can't find it anywhere on google... And my guess is also that it would conflict with later versions.. I tried to find out how to contact the dev of this plug but it seems impossible.. #%# oh well, thanks for the help anyway:)11:27
BrendanMsorry. What does this plugin do anyway?11:29
foogydo you really need this xmms plugin? i didn't find it useful and removed it.11:29
zOapBrendanM, it puts xmms/beep/whatever in the xfce panel, like media player on windows..11:29
zOapfoogy, I like to have such players in sight all the time, thats all:)11:30
BrendanMthe program won't just run the systray without it?11:30
zOapBrendanM, no..11:30
BrendanMOne thing you might consider is there's a wrapper somewhere that lets you run Gnome applets on the Xfce panel11:30
BrendanMIf there's a comparable Gnome applet, you could try running that11:31
BrendanMit's kind of ghetto solution, I know11:31
zOapoh, ok, I will search for that one. It's worth a try atleast, thanks for the tip:)11:31
zOapbtw, DOES xmms have a systray icon? I never cared to look..11:31
BrendanMI don't know, I use VLC11:32
BrendanM(the greatest media player ever)11:32
zOapAnd it does?11:32
zOaphehe, I'll give vlc a try:)11:32
BrendanMI don't know if it has a tray icon11:32
BrendanMI never looked. Lemme check now11:32
zOapI'm not married to xmms or anything so..:D11:32
BrendanMI just like the fact that it plays just about anything without hunting for codecs11:32
zOapthat sounds nice yeah. I'm not a big fan of codecs at all, since that almost always means some sort of compression, and I'm a audiodesigner and i bit fuzzy about that...11:33
BrendanMapparently there is a command-line switch to put VLC in the system tray11:34
zOapBrendanM, ok, I'll try that. thanks:)11:34
BrendanMAfter you install it, you'll probably want to change the .deskop launcher to include that switch11:36
BrendanMlemme know if it works11:36
zOapBrendanM, well, thats not nessesary. I use it with Worker, so I use my own commands, like --wx-systrat11:38
foogyI use the gnome-applet-plugin to replace some xfce-applets by their gnome correspondant.11:40
foogyxfce cpu & battery applet are useless compared to the ones delivered with gnome11:40
zOapfoogy, yeah I use the gnome-battery plugin aswell11:41
BrendanMI tried like crazy to get this applet to monitor the fan/CPU on my Dell laptop to work, but I never got it11:41
BrendanMI even emailed the developer, and he was like, "Oh, I quit working on that"11:41
foogya battery plugin should at least display the remaining battery time. xfce version does not11:42
BrendanMthis is the one, grrr: http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-i8k-plugin11:43
BrendanMReally? My xfce battery plugin displays time remaining11:43
foogyhm, strange11:43
BrendanMYou have to check the "display percentage" box in the settings11:44
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foogycool. thank you11:45
BrendanMis it true running gnome applets in Xfce takes a lot of system resources11:49
foogybut still acceptable.11:51
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cyroshey guys i just installed the last xubuntu working fine i shut down for the night now when i booted the desktop wont fully load12:00
foogyused gnome before?12:01
foogyor was it a fresh xubuntu install?12:01
foogywhat does "wont fully load" mean?12:02
cyrosit was working fine the first time12:02
cyrosit boots up to the blue screen just not the bottom bar comes up12:02
cyrosi can still alt F2 and run stuff12:02
foogytry to start "xfdesktop"12:03
cyrosi just tried changing the session to xfce it was on last session see if that works12:04
cyroshmm no go let me try what u said12:04
cyrosdidnt work12:05
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cyrostried xfdesktop from xterm no go12:07
foogysorry, no idea then12:07
foogymay be reinstalling package xubunt-desktop with apt-get, but this is probably not what you want12:07
kalikianacyros: try 'xfce4-panel' if the panel is missing12:08
cyrosshould i add that comment to start up all the time12:09
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cyroswhere do i have to add that again ?12:12
kalikianaare you using a display manager?12:14
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kalikianaI mean like gdm for example, also known as the 'login' screen12:15
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Iainhow do I set the default mp3 player in xubuntu?12:17
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kalikianaIan, there is no such thing as a default media player. Just right-click an audio file and select 'choose another application' (or similar)12:18
foogyright-click on a mp3-file -> properties12:18
kalikianaHe's gone already :/12:18
joe_no I'm here12:18
joe_I had to go12:18
joe_it's me12:18
joe_can't change my nick12:18
joe_ok so there's no way to set the default?12:19
joe_because it used to comeup with realplayer12:19
kalikianatry / nick yournick (without spaces)12:19
joe_I uninstaleld it12:19
joe_and now there's no default12:19
kalikianathere is no 'default mp3 player' but you can select the player for e.g. mp3 files by right-click (..)12:20
joe_right ok12:20
joe_thanks mate12:20
joe_which mp3 players do you guys use?12:20
joe_I'm thinking xmm12:20
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ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about player - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:21
joe_ok well thanks guys12:21
joe_I'll fix my nick later12:21
joe_bye all12:21
foogyyes, my kernel is done. reboot...12:23
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