=== DarthLappy [n=Angus@pdpc/supporter/student/DarthShrine] has joined #xubuntu === skirk [n=skirk@ip-103-163.sn2.eutelia.it] has joined #xubuntu === DanZ [i=DanZ@ool-18bc9cbe.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:37] I need help. I know next to nothing about linux and xorg/xfce wont start. I followed the installation directions on the website [12:38] wiki [12:38] you're looking at a command-line? [12:38] yea [12:39] I just did the sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop [12:39] it stalled a bunch of stuff and a rebooted [12:39] now im back at the command line [12:39] installed* [12:39] DanZ: try typing "gdm" in the command line and tell me what happens [12:40] -bash: gdm: command not found [12:40] DanZ: interesting [12:40] DanZ: try "startx" [12:41] -bash: startx: command now found === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #xubuntu [12:41] DanZ: ok "sudo aptitude install xorg xserver-sorg xubuntu-desktop gdm" [12:41] DanZ: no wait .... [12:42] DanZ: ok "sudo aptitude install xorg xserver-xorg xubuntu-desktop gdm" <--that one ... i messed up the xserver-xorg on the first one [12:42] during the installation it said something about a dependency issue [12:42] but it had a solution so I pressed y [12:42] DanZ: oh ok === grazie [n=grazie@86.150.88.190] has joined #xubuntu === megamaced [n=david@62-31-57-163.cable.ubr01.dals.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu [12:45] I just got the same messege aggain about dependancies and a solution [12:47] it sais it will install gimp and gimp-data but leave the following at current version: "gxine [not installed] , libxine [not installed] , xubuntu-desktop [not installed] [12:47] DanZ: ohhh ok .. [12:47] how can it leave it at the same version if not installed [12:49] DanZ: do "sudo aptitude update" then do "sudo aptitude -f upgrade" [12:50] DanZ: that should fix the dependancy issue and then we can get things installed === gripir is now known as gripiR [12:51] actualy, I missed it say earlier "the following packages have unmet dependencies:" "gimp-svg: depends (= 2.2.13-1ubuntu1) but 2.2.13-ubuntu3 is to be installed." [12:51] actualy, I missed it say earlier "the following packages have unmet dependencies:" "gimp-svg: depends gimp (= 2.2.13-1ubuntu1) but 2.2.13-ubuntu3 is to be installed." [12:51] missed part of it [12:53] no worries [12:53] DanZ: did you run those update commands i told you to? [12:54] not yet [12:54] ok ... lemme know when those are done [12:56] ok, done [12:57] DanZ: now do "sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop xorg xserver-xorg gdm" [12:57] DanZ: that should install without a problem this time [12:58] I just got the same dependencies issue as above === pjgat09 [n=pjgat09@69-182-192-243.adsl.snet.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:59] could it be in part becous I didnt uncoment the unsupported repository thing in the sources [12:59] I know some of that stuff is pretty new === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@adsl-221-77-18.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:00] DanZ: uhmmm... yeah, uncomment those and then do "sudo aptitude update" and then "sudo aptitude -f install xubuntu-desktop" ... we will try to take this step by step === arustyspork [n=Rusty@rrcs-70-60-133-11.central.biz.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === mindstate [n=mindstat@pool-71-164-65-55.albyny.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:05] come on Linux support the ATI cards :( [01:06] I still got the dependencies thing [01:07] LordGamer: it already does .... "sudo aptitude install xorg-driver-fglrx" and then edit your xorg.conf accordingly :) === echosystm [n=echosyst@dsl-203-113-236-97.SA.netspace.net.au] has joined #xubuntu [01:08] DanZ: yeah .... i have absolutely no clue, did you get that issue from a fresh installation? [01:09] yea [01:09] hrmmm [01:09] I just finished installed the command line via alternet cd [01:09] DanZ: did you check the md5sum of the image when you downloaded it? [01:09] well, I ran the cd check that was included on the cd [01:09] it was fine [01:10] its giving me options on ways to resolve the dependency conflict [01:10] I just dont know which one to use [01:11] actualy this dependencies conflict seems a little different then the first [01:11] DanZ: :( [01:11] should I go the the ubuntu support channel? [01:12] DanZ: yeah, maybe someone in there could help ... it doesn't seem like a xubuntu specific issue, sorry i wasn't of more help [01:12] np, thanks for the help [01:12] anytime === b_52Free [n=skimo@adsl196-242-39-217-196.adsl196-10.iam.net.ma] has joined #xubuntu === kalikiana|away is now known as kalikiana === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #xubuntu [01:23] maxamillion, how did you install gnome-dock [01:24] sudo apt-get gnome-dock [01:25] bigfuzzyjesus: i didn't [01:25] maxamillion, you said you did in -offtopic [01:26] Commander-Crowe, its not in the rops [01:26] Commander-Crowe, repos [01:26] bigfuzzyjesus: no i didn't [01:26] maxamillion, oh nvm then === B_H[zZz] [n=nima@213.207.224.161] has joined #xubuntu [01:26] bigfuzzyjesus you enable the universe and multiverse? [01:26] Commander-Crowe, yeah [01:28] what's command to runing xubuntu ? === Commander-Crowe simulates pressing his computers botton [01:29] B_H[zZz] : not sure what you mean. [01:29] i installed xubuntu-desktop package [01:29] ooh [01:29] logout [01:29] now how can i startx ?! [01:29] when you login, there should be a menu for each DE [01:30] select Xfce/Xubuntu in sessions [01:30] desktop-environment === braveheartlion [n=flasher@S010600c09f5f99a4.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:30] does anybody have their print-screen button working? [01:31] !gimp [01:31] gimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information. [01:31] Commander-Crowe: was that for me? [01:31] braveheartlion: just add the screenshot panel plugin [01:31] maxamillion: how? [01:31] I'm a newbie [01:31] maxamillion: add the plugin to gimp? [01:31] no no [01:31] then please advise [01:32] braveheartlion: yes [01:32] braveheartlion: right click either the top or bottom panel (which ever you want to plugin to be) and then click "Add New Item" and scroll down ... click "Screenshot" [01:33] braveheartlion: then just click that little camera icon to take a screenshot [01:33] maxamillion: thanks. i'll do it now. [01:34] braveheartlion: np [01:34] xfdesktop:18616 Gtk-warning cannot open display [01:34] !? [01:34] maxamillion: is there a way to get the print-screen button on my keyboard working? [01:35] maxamillion: the panel button works. i was just wondering about the button on my keyboard [01:38] braveheartlion: yeah, you just have to map the screenshot program call to the key (but i don't know the name of the program off hand) ... you can map it through Applications->Settings->Keyboard Settings in the "Shortcuts" tab [01:39] maxamillion: thanks. [01:40] no problem :) [01:40] yeah, i don't know the program name [01:40] restart [01:40] xfdesktop now working fine :) [01:40] so i won't be able to do it [01:40] tanx :)! [01:43] braveheartlion: sorry about that one === Commander-Crowe [n=thomas@unaffiliated/Commander-Crowe] has left #xubuntu [] === vidd [n=vidd@static-72-86-135-233.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === sluckx [n=john@24-117-233-44.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:50] i have an older presario supporting1024x768. problem is that xfce is slightly (very) skewed to the right it covers my scroll bar about half way in full screen. === braveheartlion [n=flasher@S010600c09f5f99a4.vf.shawcable.net] has left #xubuntu [] [01:52] laptop, skewed very slightly right but annoying when browsing. [01:53] sluckx, what is the video card on the lappy? [01:53] sluckx: open a terminal and run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and make sure you select everything correct for the lcd panel and then restart the X server and life should be good [01:54] i'm outta here ... getting off work [01:54] laters [01:56] !seen cellofellow [01:56] I last saw cellofellow (n=josh@69.71.161.32) 1d 2h 46m 41s ago, quiting: "Leaving" [01:58] well, I removed fam and gimp-svg and its installing now [01:59] will I need either of those later? === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #xubuntu [01:59] ok fingers crossed. [02:02] sluckx, ya good? [02:02] totally killed X haha [02:02] i backed up xorg np [02:03] good call [02:03] did you set the hor and vewrt manually, or let X figure them out? [02:04] let x that time [02:04] i might boot knoppix and see what it uses in xorg [02:04] what is the vid card? [02:04] trident [02:05] did you pick that from the list or the versa? [02:05] trident === vidd is trying to recall what the generic vga driver is... [02:06] vesa is right i think [02:06] try that one this time === firefish [n=yhy@218.2.20.211] has joined #xubuntu [02:13] sluckx, getting ready to retry? [02:13] yea [02:14] this is taking awile. how long dous should it take to install xubuntu-desktop on a 400 mh celeron [02:15] i gotta reboot into recovery console again, that time i just edited xorg and changed driver to vesa [02:15] like no more then 20-30 minutes i guess [02:16] thanks [02:16] sluckx, do the reconfig-xorg [02:23] killed it again [02:25] =[ [02:25] dont know what to say.... [02:26] edgy or dapper? [02:26] that actually is slightly better [02:26] i m running live on vesa now [02:27] ...your using thew live cd...not installed? [02:27] but its way slower than the trident module [02:27] no i got it changed with that dpkg without killing it finally [02:27] ah...ic [02:27] thats cool [02:28] still a little skewed? [02:28] i ll play with xorg [02:28] much better [02:28] not annoying naymore [02:28] did you set the vert and hor yourself this time? [02:28] no i let it go on medium set 60hz 1024x768 === Commander-Crowe [n=thomas@unaffiliated/Commander-Crowe] has joined #xubuntu [02:29] i m gonna check my original xorg with the trident and see if theres any diff [02:29] try selecting the 800x600, see if it is still skewed [02:29] i gotta cruz but thanks a lot for the help [02:29] cheers === archangelpetro [n=petroleu@82.153.197.35] has joined #xubuntu === rag [n=rag@58.Red-80-24-33.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === vidd [n=vidd@static-72-86-135-233.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:37] where is xorg config stored? [02:37] /etc/X11 [02:37] b4 i mess with it, i want to back it up [02:38] cool [02:38] cd /etc/X11/ [02:38] sudo cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.backup [02:38] that'll back it up for ua === vidd likes to sudo thunar [02:39] already done [02:39] ty [02:39] bbs === kalikiana feels responsible to emphasize that 'sudo Thunar' is not recommended for daily usage === kalikiana adds that 'sudo' as well as 'gksudo' is should be used cautiously in general [02:44] BUAHAHHA [02:44] :) [02:44] There might be newbies out here reading that. [02:46] you don't realize how great that advice is until you've messed up [02:47] so every noob please type now 'sudo rm -R /' and see what happens *harhar* [02:47] I'm off [02:47] :) [02:47] thunar keeps freezing on me [02:47] haha [02:48] anon_ reinstall ity from the xfce website [02:48] it doesn't like Page Down for some reason [02:48] haha [02:49] It doesn't on mine either [02:52] wewt dillo === priidu [n=Priit@58.246.250.101] has joined #xubuntu === dredhammer [n=dredhamm@pool-71-247-15-204.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === hyper_ch [n=hyper@217-162-77-97.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu === redwyrm [n=nil@pool-71-109-164-96.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === hyper_ch [n=hyper@217-162-77-97.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu === DanZ [n=dan@ool-18bc9cbe.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #xubuntu === priit_ [n=Priit@58.246.245.174] has joined #xubuntu === tuna-fish- [n=tuna@tunamasiina.kortex.jyu.fi] has joined #xubuntu === Jester45 [n=Jester45@72-161-57-175.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:45] !seen cellofellow [04:45] I last saw cellofellow (n=josh@69.71.161.32) 1d 5h 35m 51s ago, quiting: "Leaving" === ChanServ [ChanServ@services.] has joined #xubuntu === j1mc [n=j1m@adsl-75-21-77-18.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu === pilot [n=pilot@h-72-245-4-192.lsanca54.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:53] Anybody want to help out a total newbie with xubuntu? [04:55] i will try === priidu [n=Priit@58.246.245.174] has joined #xubuntu [04:56] o gtg sorry just stay in here and someone should come soon [04:57] pilot, what do you need help with? [04:58] pilot, are you just installing xubuntu? what's your question? [04:59] I have a lot [04:59] of questions [05:00] I am trying to figure out why xubuntu crashes on me [05:01] i'm not sure if i can help, but when or why does it crash? [05:02] I've added a lot of other programs, do you think that some would conflict with one another causing them to malfunction? [05:03] When I tried to install VMware, it freezes and I am forced to reboot my computer [05:03] pilot, did you just add the programs from the ubuntu repositories, or did you go and install other software from somewhere else? [05:04] pilot, hrm, i'm not sure what the problem could be. [05:04] why are you trying to run vmware? === rexbinary [n=rexbinar@unaffiliated/rexbinary] has joined #xubuntu [05:04] I am pretty sure I just added them in the repositories but I downloaded Dreamweaver 8 and I wanted to run it in a virtual window [05:04] I want to run dreamweaver 8 and other windows programs [05:05] gotcha. i'm sorry . . . i wish i could help more. i'm not a total expert myself. [05:06] it's alright...I just started a few days ago myself [05:07] what I've used NVU before and it's a good program but when you spend money on overpriced software you kind of wanna get your moneys worth [05:08] Anybody know how to set up dual monitors? [05:09] !xinerama [05:09] xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead [05:11] thanks I'll give them a shot and let you know the outcome in a bit. I've tried many times to do this but fail miserably 99% of the time === anon_ [n=david@208.42.242.125] has joined #xubuntu === firefish [n=yhy@222.184.65.189] has joined #xubuntu === gripir__ [n=gripir@p549C88F0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #xubuntu === Blacktooth [n=blacktoo@ppp73-116.lns3.adl2.internode.on.net] has left #xubuntu [] [05:34] What is the command to get the xorg.confg file so that I may edit it? [05:38] command? [05:38] Do you want the interactive reconfiguration or just a text editor that can save it? [05:39] sudo mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.config ? === maxamillion [n=max@r74-192-178-37.htvlcmta01.hnvitx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:40] someone who's had Xubuntu installed for more than 24 hours back me up here [05:40] anon_: what's up? === maxamillion has had Xubuntu installed for much longer than 24 hours [05:40] answering question: What is the command to get the xorg.confg file so that I may edit it? [05:41] I am trying to install duel monitors [05:41] I said sudo mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.config ? [05:41] sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf ... or .... gksudo mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.conf [05:41] one is from my laptop [05:41] and the other is for a 19 inch monitor I got from santa === maxamillion got a 19" widescreen monitor from santa too :) [05:42] max, how good are you with fixing mouse issues? [05:42] I tried many times to do this but I suck at remembering all the right commands [05:42] you've must have been on his good list [05:42] anon_: horrible ... i've never had one so never had to fix [05:42] my touchpad seems to be overriding my USB mice on my laptop [05:43] anon_: yeah... not sure :/ [05:43] don't worry about it [05:43] i only use the touchpad on my laptop ... never tried using a usb mouse with it === Kreator [n=Kreator@a84-231-190-118.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #xubuntu === b_52Free [n=skimo@adsl196-147-41-217-196.adsl196-10.iam.net.ma] has joined #xubuntu === DarthLap1y [n=Angus@202-161-26-8.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #xubuntu === DarthShrine [n=angus@pdpc/supporter/student/DarthShrine] has joined #xubuntu === firefish [n=yhy@218.2.20.61] has joined #xubuntu === Wizaado [n=Wizaado@c-68-35-207-145.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:17] Linux [06:19] ? [06:20] firefish: can you possibly translate that into english? [06:23] sorry , i post it in the wrong channel ,actually it's about a new chinese input resolution software has released, [06:23] http://www.znwb.com/linux.html [06:23] if you can understand chinese:) [06:25] i can not, but i do know someone who can and i believe they might be interested ... thanks for the link :) === champ [n=cronman@61.8.3.98] has joined #xubuntu === priidu [n=Priit@58.246.245.174] has joined #xubuntu === sc0tt_ [n=sc0tt@cpc1-stok5-0-0-cust513.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #xubuntu === ke [n=kenneth@port272.ds1-aboes.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #xubuntu === Commander|away [n=thomas@unaffiliated/Commander-Crowe] has joined #xubuntu === Commander|away is now known as Commander-Crowe === priit_ [n=Priit@58.246.245.174] has joined #xubuntu === mauteri1 [n=john@cpe-76-167-226-26.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === champ [n=cronman@61.8.3.98] has left #xubuntu ["Kopete] === DrX0 [n=DrX@pool-71-106-181-83.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === cetiah [n=cetiah@adsl-75-57-31-153.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu === cetiah [n=cetiah@adsl-75-57-31-153.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has left #xubuntu [] === mauteri1 [n=john@cpe-76-167-226-26.socal.res.rr.com] has left #xubuntu [] [07:23] well I like my new install [07:23] it feels...cleaner [07:23] just not so simular [07:24] :( [07:24] i sorry === xfceubuntu [n=pegger@82.131.220.187.pool.invitel.hu] has joined #xubuntu === drx0drx [n=DrX@pool-71-106-181-83.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === stork [n=sh2-136@storkey.plus.com] has joined #xubuntu === DarthLap1y [n=Angus@202-161-26-8.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #xubuntu === DarthShrine [n=angus@pdpc/supporter/student/DarthShrine] has joined #xubuntu === rikai_ [n=rikai@unaffiliated/rikai] has joined #xubuntu === DarthShrine [n=angus@pdpc/supporter/student/DarthShrine] has joined #xubuntu [08:51] haha === alnokta [n=alnokta@unaffiliated/alnokta] has joined #xubuntu === esc_on_anakin [n=esc@p54BEE88E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === Commander|away [n=thomas@unaffiliated/Commander-Crowe] has joined #xubuntu === Commander|away is now known as Commander === moe_evil [n=patatama@eu99-71-192.clientes.euskaltel.es] has joined #xubuntu === moe_evil [n=patatama@eu99-71-192.clientes.euskaltel.es] has left #xubuntu ["Ex-Chat"] === DarthLappy [n=Angus@pdpc/supporter/student/DarthShrine] has joined #xubuntu === drx0drx [n=DrX@pool-71-106-181-83.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === gripir__ is now known as gripir === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #xubuntu === rag [n=rag@58.Red-80-24-33.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === Majic [n=_@adsl-69-226-109-55.dsl.skt2ca.pacbell.net] has joined #xubuntu [10:16] Hi, I have a problem...again. My wireless connection won't show in the Network Settings window. [10:16] Also: My wireless card has installed as eth0:avahi *if that helps* [10:17] How can I get the wireless connection to show in Network Settings? [10:18] It sees it in the device manager--my wireless card--but there is no interface to go with it. === grazie [n=grazie@86.150.88.190] has joined #xubuntu === _ChaKy__ [n=chaky@17-189.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #xubuntu === alnokta [n=alnokta@unaffiliated/alnokta] has joined #xubuntu === mijndert [n=mijndert@c82014.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #xubuntu === AL89 [n=alex@Xbd8b.x.pppool.de] has joined #xubuntu === priidu [n=Priit@58.246.245.174] has joined #xubuntu === kalikiana [n=kalikian@xdsl-87-78-35-197.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu === echosystm [n=echosyst@dsl-203-113-236-7.SA.netspace.net.au] has joined #xubuntu === morphir [n=morphir@217.168.81.4] has joined #xubuntu === priit_ [n=Priit@58.246.245.174] has joined #xubuntu === priidu [n=Priit@58.246.245.174] has joined #xubuntu === gunny01 [n=tom@ppp222-29.lns2.adl4.internode.on.net] has joined #xubuntu === orByte [n=godXhell@124.82.77.78] has joined #xubuntu === gunny01 [n=tom@ppp222-29.lns2.adl4.internode.on.net] has left #xubuntu [] === pk_butu [n=chatzill@59.145.136.1] has joined #xubuntu === ChaKy [n=chaky@17-189.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #xubuntu [12:56] good day === Holraven [n=holraven@062016209197.customer.alfanett.no] has joined #xubuntu [01:00] Hi everyone! Easy question: I have a messed-up Ubuntu-installation on an iBook, and I want to format my drive and install Xubuntu. Thing is, I want to copy some files off my hard drive. When booting from the CD, my USB hard drive is automatically mounted, but I can't find my internal hard drive anywhere. How can I mount it to copy my files? [01:02] well, you can use "mount" to mounts disks [01:02] but you need to know the disks descriptor and where to mount it to [01:03] first hard drive is usually primary master and therefore /dev/hda [01:03] first partition would be /dev/hda1 [01:03] second /dev/hda2 [01:03] and so on [01:04] you can do an "ls /mnt/" and see what directories are there [01:04] i'm not in front of an xubuntu machine right now, so i may only be of limited help [01:05] So "mount /dev/hda1" ? [01:06] if there is a /mnt/hda1 [01:06] im new to linux, and i don't know how to change the permission of my pendrive which means that i can't write files into it. any idea? [01:07] Holraven, if there is a "/mnt/hda1" you can just "cd" to "/mnt/" and type "mount hda1" [01:08] then "ls hda1/" to see your files, if it worked [01:08] ps, you may have to "sudo" that [01:09] mnt directory is empty. When trying "mount /dev/hda1" I cet "can't find /dev/hda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab" [01:09] yes [01:09] ok [01:09] try "sudo mkdir /mnt/hda1" [01:09] to make a mountpoint [01:10] and then "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1" [01:10] to mount the drive [01:10] Okay. Made the directory, tried "mount hda1", same error message - can't find ... in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab [01:11] When browsing /etc - there is no folder called fstab or mtab...? [01:11] Oh, those are files... [01:11] Holraven, you won't need fstab right now [01:12] you can just "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1" and explicitly mount /dev/hda1 to /mnt/hda1 [01:12] for now to copy the files [01:12] fstab is a file that lists disks and mountpoints [01:12] filesystems and so on [01:13] "You must specify the filesystem type"... [01:13] you can use fstab if you want stuff automounted at boot, for example a windows partition [01:13] ah yes [01:13] But I think we're getting somewhere. ;) [01:13] so your files aren't on hda1 [01:13] probably [01:13] hda2? [01:13] you can use "sudo parted /dev/hda" [01:14] yah...he should specify the mount point... [01:14] which is a command line tool for viewing partitions on a disk [01:14] once in "parted" type "h" for help "p" to print partition table [01:14] and "q" to quit [01:14] df or dh or something like that....... can show in in which mount dev his harddisk is mounted.. [01:15] WOkay... So number 4 is the linux-swap... [01:15] So I'd want to mount hda4? [01:15] unlikely [01:16] i guess [01:16] swap is just swap space for the operating system to put stuff when it needs more memory [01:16] ext3 - number 3. Think I'm getting nearer. lol [01:17] plz try with.....$sudo df -l [01:17] i guess an ext3 partition will be what you want [01:17] pk_butu, the disk isn't mounted yet [01:17] Haha success! [01:18] okay, just don't get confused as /dev/hda3 is mounted on /mnt/hda1 [01:18] Thank you very much, Anakin - I'm in your debt. ;) [01:18] and now you can use "df -hl" to view the mounted filesystems === gunny01 [n=tom@ppp222-29.lns2.adl4.internode.on.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:18] esc, the name is esc... anakin is just the machine i'm on [01:19] Holraven: you can put the output of 'sudo mac-fdisk -l /dev/hda' to pastbin if you want us to check [01:19] !info mac-fdisk [01:19] I'm trying to play a cd. when I put it in the drive, I get a pop-up asking whether I want to play the music or view the files. No matter what I click, I can't find the music, even when I open rythmbox. Any help please? [01:19] Package mac-fdisk does not exist in any distro I know [01:20] I can browse the filesystem, no problem - but how can I unlock folders - "permission denied"? [01:20] 'ubotu' doesn't know something! [01:20] unlock the folders??? [01:21] i thought you just wanted to copy some files across? [01:21] I'm in the "home" folder on my hard drive, and some folders are inaccessible, I don't have permission to open them. How can I claim permission? [01:22] inaccessible? [01:22] as in you have no read privileges? [01:22] Correct. [01:22] either.. use "sudo" to fool around in them [01:23] or use "chmod" [01:23] esc_on_anakin: fool around?! [01:23] :-) i dunno [01:23] first thing that popped into my head [01:24] anyway, chmod is the tool to change the modifiers on a file [01:24] Holraven: you probably just need to prefix you commands with 'sudo' to get privs [01:24] everything in linux is a file [01:24] As in "sudo chmod 777 *.*"? [01:25] that would change permissions to rwxrwxrxw [01:25] Holraven: no. as in 'sudo ls' [01:25] But if I want to chmod an entire folder..? [01:26] !info playing cds [01:26] er.. um... [01:26] Package playing does not exist in edgy === gunny01 [n=tom@ppp222-29.lns2.adl4.internode.on.net] has left #xubuntu [] [01:26] Holraven: or 'sudo cp -a ....' [01:26] chmod has the -R switch for recursive [01:27] but chmod 777 makes files executable too,. i.e. rwxrwxrwx [01:27] chmod 666 makes them read-writable i.e. rw-rw-rw- [01:28] and chmod 600 makes them read-writable only by yourself, i.e. rw------- [01:28] Holraven: you don't want to change access privs! You are just trying to backup your data, yes? [01:28] you can see permissions with ls -lah [01:28] l for long, a for all, and h for human readable filesizes [01:30] I'm trying to backup my data, but I want my folders to be accessible on my removable media - from any given OS on any given machine. [01:31] And by using the chmod-function, I "unlocked" one of the folders, so I imagined doing that for all folders and files would solve my problem quite elegantly..? [01:31] depends on the filesystem, on your usb-hard-drive [01:32] cause i don't think windows will honour ext3 permissions [01:33] But I'll format and reinstall Xubuntu. [01:33] Holraven, i would recommend backing up the data and worrying about file-permissions later [01:33] Holraven: you are making life difficult for yourself [01:33] Hehehe. I know. I could have run OS X instead... ;) [01:34] yeah, cross that bridge when you come to it :-) [01:34] OS X eh? [01:34] It's an iBook. [01:34] i wish i had a mac :-( [01:34] I wish I didn't. :D [01:34] I got it for free. [01:34] which version of VIM is coming with Xubuntu 6.10? actually sytnax highlighting is not working in my case....it says old version... [01:34] Holraven, is it an intel chip, or powerpc? [01:35] Holraven: just 'sudo cp -a ' [01:35] It's a G3 500 Mhz - old as hell. That's why I want to run "X"ubuntu... [01:35] Ubuntu was a bit sloooow... [01:35] ppc. hence mac-fdisk [01:36] Mp3's wouldn't play fluently. [01:36] you could also try something esoteric, like grml or DSL [01:36] esc_on_anakin: no! PPC [01:36] grazie, ah, ok, i was wondering what mac-fdisk is for [01:36] DSL is not for PPC? [01:36] any idea abt vim syntax highlighting? [01:37] Seriously folks. Let me be a newbie and do my thing in "File Manager" - and chmod does the works for me. So how can I apply chmod changes to all subfolders and files? [01:37] esc_on_anakin: mac-fdisk is the mac equiv of fdisk [01:37] grazie, yeah i guessed that much, just didn't get as far as PPC [01:37] now you say it it seems so.. obvious [01:39] Oh. By using "*" instead of "*.*".... [01:39] Holraven: trust us. you don't want to change the access privs. you are achieving nothing [01:40] It's not that I don't trust you, it's just that, by changing privs, folders and files are accessible via the File Manager - the GUI. Which is a relief to me. I'm no terminal geek, I try to use the commands I remember from good ol' MS-DOS, only to find that some work and some don't... :P [01:42] Holraven: if you want to use thunar (file manager) then in terminal 'gksu thunar &' [01:42] i used to have open windows, but now i have open bsd. [01:43] Aha. Now that *did* work. [01:44] Okay. Step one, I copy all my stash to the USB drive. Fast forward to step three, copying my stash *back* to my hard-drive after re-install. Will these permissions still haunt me? [01:44] find out when you get there [01:44] Holraven: be very careful using thunar like this. You can TRASH you system very easily by doing something silly [01:44] My system's trashed already! [01:45] "terminal geek" sounds like a chronic illness lol.. [01:45] I left the iBook in suspended mode for nine or ten days, battery went dead. On reboot, GNOME won't start, nothing works! [01:45] Even when booting Ubuntu from CD! [01:45] So now I'm trying Xubuntu, which works better. [01:45] The installer crashes, though. :S [01:46] if gnome wont start from CD, that may suggest a defective CD or faulty hardware [01:46] thats a bit worrying [01:46] I doubt it. It seems it somehow loads settings from somewhere... [01:47] Holraven: don't worry. you can boot Xubuntu live cd, all is well! [01:47] though you do need... what 196 MB of ram to use the live CDs, not sure [01:47] I'm running xubuntu cd right now. [01:48] I'm typing from my PC at the mo. [01:48] but gnome sucks anyway, and so does KdE... In my very own humble opinion [01:48] esc_on_anakin: too true [01:48] And xubuntu uses...what? [01:48] XFCE [01:48] hence the X in "Xubuntu" [01:48] Which stands for? [01:49] X F(ile) C E(dition)? Hehe. [01:49] !xfce [01:49] xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels [01:49] apparently its so old, that even the developers can't remember what it stands for [01:49]