[12:16] nice, works perfectly (stollen code from plastik? who cares) [12:16] which windeco will be used in the future by kubuntu? [12:18] <_StefanS_> ekuco: grab 1.0 from kde-look.org === elcuco hates compiling [12:21] elcuco: polyester will be (most likely) used for Feisty, KDE4 default style for feisty+1 [12:23] manchicken: current adept doesn't show the arrow next to the items in the list view, is that likely to be your patch's doing? [12:23] ok, found a deb, looks nice with all the animations on, kinda heavy, but ok === elcuco [n=elcuco@bzq-88-153-41-42.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:30] Riddell: Seeing as how everything I do is perfect, I doubt it ;) [12:31] Riddell: Most likely. I was noticing that too, but I was ignoring it.. probably not a good idea. [12:32] manchicken: what's the branch to get your current supported indicator patch? support-indicator-tooltip? [12:35] yeah [12:35] If bzr worked with committing merges, trunk would have had it. [12:35] what's in trunk? [12:35] I was hoping to have that be the latest branch that all could hit regardless of what the latest feature I'd done was. === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:36] I'm still not sure what the best way to handle this is, it should be one archive per patch but I don't know where to branch the archive and how to get the diff === oslo [n=Lancelot@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:37] manchicken: it's just the lister.cpp and lister.h files I need? [12:38] yeah [12:38] and the indicator png === neversfelde_ [n=chrman@195.71.21.177] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde_ is now known as neversfelde [12:47] Are you gonna fix it? [12:47] I can totally fix it if you put a bug on for me. [12:48] If I don't have any boogs I won't have anything to do after feature freeze ;) [12:50] fix the arrow thing? [12:50] just now I'm trying to get it to compile :) [12:51] <_StefanS_> about adept_updater .. that wizard thing never worked for me - how was it intended to work ? [12:51] download packages, install them [12:51] <_StefanS_> my adept_updater just quits if I clicked on Next [12:51] <_StefanS_> It was kinda odd [12:51] Okay, gotta run. I'll be back on in about 3-5 hours. If you have any ideas, please let me know (manchicken@kubuntu.org). I really like ideas, but I really gotta run. [12:52] _StefanS_: it's broken in feisty [12:52] <_StefanS_> okay :) [12:52] <_StefanS_> the fade thing works now with settings in ksmserverrc [12:52] groovy [12:53] got a .deb and a debdiff? [12:53] (or just the patch) [12:53] <_StefanS_> I was thinking about putting the other settings in there as well. Would make it easier to adapt [12:53] <_StefanS_> FADE_BACK_TIME, FADE_TIME, ADDITIONAL_DARKNESS [12:54] sure [12:54] <_StefanS_> I was just thinking about how you represent floats in konfig's [12:54] <_StefanS_> KConfig even [12:54] dunno, look at the API docs [12:55] <_StefanS_> yep I'll look it up === luc [n=luc@230-82-244-84.zapcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:17] <_StefanS_> Riddell: its compiling kdebase again now, I will test it in a few moments. === praetor [n=praetor@124-168-94-12.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel === luis_lopez [n=jabba@ip216-239-84-152.vif.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-56-132.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rideout [n=rideout@71-215-90-16.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde_ [n=chrman@195.71.21.177] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde_ [n=chrman@195.71.21.177] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde_ is now known as neversfelde === XVampireX [n=serge@unaffiliated/xvampirex] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:43] Hello? [01:44] There's something that's a bit disappointing in Kubuntu... Adept doesn't seem to be liking new users (I.E: No ubuntu specific patches to it), or maybe I don't know how to use it (And I'm not a new user, just wanted to say how cool ubuntu specific patches for synaptic are) [01:44] Things like enabling universe and multiverse with a click... === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:50] XVampireX: will be ready for Feisty, I hope [01:51] Hobbsee!! === XVampireX is using feisty :D === mhb too [01:53] XVampireX: those features are in development [01:53] Oh, alright :D [01:53] But feature freeze soon, no? [01:53] XVampireX: true [01:53] that's why I'm writing it now [01:53] Oh, alright [01:54] XVampireX: and that's why it is 02:00 here and I'm still awake :o) [01:54] :) [01:55] Riddell: I just wrote in mail exporting support for kmail, do you want the patch for feisty? [01:55] praetor: what does it do? [01:55] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77744 [01:55] KDE bug 77744 in general "JJ: add tool to archive all mail" [Wishlist,New] [01:55] hey mhb! [01:56] XVampireX: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlwaysEnableUniverseMultiverse [01:56] hey Riddell! [01:56] calls ark to compress the users mail folder, creates a new folder on the users desktop kmail_exported_mail, places the archive there and then opens a konqueror in file management mode which displays the mail archive [01:56] ive tested it with kmail's mail import tool and it seems to work [01:57] praetor: sure sounds good [01:57] praetor: is the patch in upstream? [01:57] i just submitted it now so not yet [01:57] mhb: That sounds really good... === neversfelde [n=chrman@195.71.21.177] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:58] praetor: able to send a debdiff to kubuntu-devel? [01:58] A little general ubuntu question: Are madwifi drivers already installed by default in edgy? [01:58] i can send you a diff against kmail svn ;) [01:58] praetor: hmm, it really needs to be against 3.5.6 [01:58] ok let me grab the sources for that then [01:59] XVampireX: iirc, yes [01:59] XVampireX: my old wifi card worked by default in edgy, so yeah. not sure about on the live cd though? [01:59] i think it did there too [01:59] And can you people apply a little kde patch? The most notable for me is move to: in right click on file and try to move a file, konqueror crashes, I submitted a bug report for KDE. [02:00] XVampireX: what patch was it? [02:00] I don't know, well, I mean, fix it :P [02:00] I can give you the bug report [02:00] XVampireX: can you describe the problem in detail? [02:00] XVampireX: probably not. [02:01] XVampireX: if there's a patch, we can apply it, but it probably works better for the kde devels to actually fix the bugs. === Hobbsee doesnt know hte konqi codebase at all [02:01] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140867 [02:01] Move To: works fine for me [02:01] KDE bug 140867 in general "Konqueror crashes when I move something into a different directory" [Crash,Resolved: duplicate] [02:01] although that UI is horrible [02:02] Hmm, maybe I should update now, then === Hobbsee notes we must be getting close to feature freeze or something, if Riddell is still up :) === Hobbsee attacks her uni with her Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [02:04] dont cancel the classes that i need to do for my degree! gah! [02:05] how do I ask for a newer version of an application in the repositories (mplayer) [02:06] hooray, spammers [02:06] ? [02:06] in #ubuntu and #kubuntu [02:06] XVampireX: upgrade it yourself, or find one of the media team and ask for it. [02:06] XVampireX: probably the latteer [02:07] Hmm... Who might that be? [02:07] dont remember offhand === Hobbsee checks on LP [02:08] I don't mind compiling a package for everyone to use (I really want to contribute much to ubuntu and linux in general) [02:08] But no idea how to make a general package and then submit it [02:08] XVampireX: https://launchpad.net/~debian-multimedia maybe [02:08] ah [02:08] ask crimsun when he comes back === neversfelde [n=chrman@195.71.21.177] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee merges LP accounts...again [02:10] Ah, crimsun talked to me about it, but it was too complicated, s/he gave me some links to the wiki on how to submit a request for package upgrade.... === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:12] hrm. apparently i've contributed to Fooix the Wonder-Toaster [02:12] er? [02:13] bddebian: the beta of launchpad [02:13] Ah :-) [02:14] Hobbsee: yes, I was wondering what that was too [02:14] Riddell: i suspect they're just putting extra stuff in, just to test it out [02:14] hey cool, apparently i'm involved in a couple of specs!~ === Hobbsee files a support request. === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-56-132.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:18] i dont think emails to *@localhost will workk [02:19] Riddell: what's this "feedback request" thing on specs? [02:20] it means you want people to comment on the spec [02:20] ie, so i'm supposed to comment on the spec? [02:20] hrm, okay [02:21] Hobbsee: Maybe you could implement something in launchpad that would mark a package out of date? [02:22] Because for example there's a stable mplayer release for a while now [02:22] 1.0rc1 [02:22] hm.. in Launchpad, if I set my preferred e-mail address from my @gmail.com to @kubuntu.org (yay!), will it sort of "break" the connection? [02:23] XVampireX: or not, i'm a launchpad dev. [02:23] Jucato: yes. dont do it [02:23] Hobbsee: ooh ok.. thanks for telling me :) === Jucato is glad he asked first... [02:24] XVampireX: report a wishlist bug [02:24] Jucato: it's a bug in LP. it breaks if you ever try to change where @kubuntu.org points to - same as the @ubuntu ones [02:24] er, might be a bug in the emails [02:24] And speaking of adept usability, is there an update manager for it? I don't seem to see one.. I remember there was one before... [02:24] XVampireX: there hasnt been. there is now, though [02:24] Riddell: for updating mplayer or for launchpad? [02:24] XVampireX: in feisty or in edgy? [02:24] XVampireX: for launchpad [02:24] Right now I'm in feisty === Hobbsee keeps getting adept crashing though [02:25] ah [02:25] there is an adept_updater.. but I don't know if it could be considered an update manager... [02:25] there is/was [02:25] ubuntu's update manager got ported over though === _StefanS_ is getting rather tired of recompiling kdebase... [02:25] Oh, so it should be even better :) [02:26] _StefanS_: why are you doing it? [02:26] yes. all thanks to Riddell!! yay! === Hobbsee wonders at the new people... [02:26] Hobbsee: because it's fun! :) [02:26] lol [02:26] Jucato: indeed! i'm just surprised there are so many :) [02:26] I hope I didn't start a trend :P [02:26] <_StefanS_> Hobbsee: err, because I like seeing shitloads of text passing by all night... :) === Jucato loves compiling from SVN though [02:26] XVampireX: for updating mplayer [02:27] _StefanS_: then you'll love cmake... colorful shitloads of text :) [02:27] <_StefanS_> whoa [02:27] ahh... [02:27] isnt that a #ubuntu-motu sort of question, as it's in multiverse? [02:27] Riddell: Ah, ok :) [02:27] sarah@LongPointyStick:~$ show mplayer | grep Maintainer [02:27] Maintainer: Ubuntu MOTU Developers [02:27] Original-Maintainer: Ubuntu MOTU Media Team [02:28] <_StefanS_> I managed to keep my cpu temp to 80 degrees celsius for the past 2 hours.. maybe I should turn off the heat in the house. === ubijtsa [n=ubijtsa@karlsson.force9.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:28] _StefanS_: 80 degrees what? [02:29] <_StefanS_> Hobbsee: not fahrenheit. The other one you know. [02:29] <_StefanS_> Hobbsee: look it up :) [02:29] good === Hobbsee deals in celcius === Hobbsee is australian [02:30] in australian? [02:30] <_StefanS_> its a laptop, the safe temp is 100 degrees.. I'm aiming to get to 90 within an hour :) [02:30] heh === Hobbsee got her laptop about that high... === Hobbsee smelled components burning at that temp, though... [02:30] not this one, though [02:30] I always told Lure people complain about the heat and battery power :o) [02:30] _StefanS_: you are doing debuild -nc? [02:31] <_StefanS_> Riddell: yea [02:31] XVampireX: fujitsu may do it [02:31] Hobbsee: Should I email the original maintainer? [02:31] <_StefanS_> Riddell: I might be all wrong [02:31] it's a list, you'll get moderated [02:31] <_StefanS_> Riddell: it cleans every time [02:31] mm, -nc should stop that [02:31] morning all! :D [02:32] hey zakame! [02:32] morning zakame! [02:32] hi Hobbsee Jucato! [02:32] almost done now with the feisty upgrade [02:32] nice [02:32] finished building the feisty pbuilder... [02:33] <_StefanS_> Riddell: I think its all the stuff stuffed around the make process that takes the extra time [02:33] <_StefanS_> stuff stuffed.. i must be very tired === _StefanS_ will eventually sleep when he gets old [02:34] XVampireX: how long till rc2? [02:34] No idea [02:36] Riddell: excuse me, just wondering... will the terminal emulator-thing for Adept be fixed in Feisty? the one that gives problems when approving licenses like Java's? [02:37] Jucato: ask manchicken that when he comes bakc ;P [02:37] I think he said Riddell was the one fixing it... [02:37] bah nvm.. it's not like I can fix it :P [02:37] Jucato: it's not that you can't :o) [02:37] well technically, I can't yet :P [02:37] Jucato: yes, it's a priority [02:38] some fixes are really trivial, although it may not be this one [02:38] XVampireX: i'll look into it [02:39] Hobbsee: Thank you :) [02:39] where can I help out to fix bugs in? :) [02:39] zakame: kdebase, maybe? === zakame checks [02:44] goodnight folks === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:45] <_StefanS_> night [02:53] hmm bug #61946, who's working on that? [02:53] Malone bug 61946 in kdebase "[Edgy Data Loss] umount progress dialog missing" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61946 [02:54] zakame: nobody, it's an upstream issue and apparantly not an easy one to fix [02:56] i see... so it's on the kde bugtracker I gather, should we note that on the bug if so? [03:03] <_StefanS_> Riddell: I'm off, gave up on the extra settings. And now I reverted, I still get that error from the patches. [03:03] <_StefanS_> crap [03:03] _StefanS_: foo [03:03] <_StefanS_> I wasted 2 hours and now still don't work [03:04] <_StefanS_> good nite === Riddell hugs _StefanS_ === _StefanS_ falls asleep standing [03:04] <_StefanS_> I'm off === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:19] Heya Hobbsee, still wading through trying to get Kmail to do S/MIME. I know that gpgsm sees the keys OK, so that's not it. I'll let you know when I figure it out or give up. [03:19] ScottK: cool :) === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #kubuntu-devel === praetor [n=praetor@124-168-94-12.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:36] Are there any plans to work on even more wireless support? [03:36] And thinking less about "freedom" ? [03:36] ? [03:37] XVampireX: explain? [03:37] XVampireX: as in, more wireless support, where the wireless drivers are closed source? [03:37] Yes [03:38] the ones that we're allowed to include, we do, iirc [03:38] Oh [03:39] stuff that we cant distribute legally, no [03:39] Shame :-/ [03:39] just making sure... is wlassistant shipped in kubuntu cds right? [03:39] in edgy yes [03:40] not in feisty [03:40] what's in feisty? [03:40] knetworkmanager [03:40] How would one configure a wireless card/router/etc... if they don't have an internet connection? [03:40] knetworkmanager is really nice :) [03:41] oh... does it do run-parts on the /etc/network/if-{,pre-}{up,down}.d/ scripts? [03:41] run parts? [03:41] no === Riddell beds [03:42] night Riddell! [03:42] awww, I wish it had that ;) [03:42] gn8 Riddell [03:42] and thanks [03:43] night Riddell [03:43] Are there any new optimizations in feisty? It seems ALOT faster [03:43] And that's not just me, so it's definitely not a feeling === zakame looks forward to those optimizations === Jucato looks forward to... um.. dunno lol [03:44] (03:58:02) Andy: Fantastic feisty. Have you noticed the performance improvement? Damn. === mstemle [n=mstemle@network-65-167-67-16.doubleclick.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:45] Good night Riddel, yeah :D [03:45] edgy actually seems slow in comparison and I remember thinking "Wow, this is much faster then dapper" [03:45] s/then/than/ [03:45] hehe [03:46] I wonder what causes that, newer kernel? [03:46] most likely [03:46] that and cleaner code would be my guess [03:47] haha [03:55] Linux is really heading to the right place. More so ubuntu derivatives :) [04:13] I really like how you also integrate winecfg in KDE/Qt interface in System Settings :) [04:14] Why on earth would we put winecfg into kde-systemsettings? [04:15] it's actually already in KControl [04:15] in Edgy it wasn't put into System Settings, even if Wine was installed [04:15] Silly konversation. [04:16] I think it kinda silly to put it into system settings. [04:16] winecfg itself isn't. it's a KDE frontend to winecfg [04:16] manchicken: I mean what Jucato said [04:17] I don't understand why we'd do that. I wasn't aware we encouraged the use of wine. [04:17] Jucato: That's what I said, KDE/Qt interface :) [04:17] strangely enough, on this new edgy install.. it isn't there anymore.. must be something I installed earlier === Jucato senses a FSF sermon coming up... [04:17] haha! [04:18] Yeah, I totally agree... we should concentrate on usability instead of just plain making people think they are free [04:18] Not FSF sermon. Support limitations. [04:18] anyway, like I said, it's not there by default [04:18] it just exists. but it's not Kubuntu's doing, afaik [04:18] I didn't come over to Linux to see that I don't have the options to use Windows software [04:18] XVampireX: I would disagree with you there. [04:19] XVampireX: But it's not our job to support non-free software. [04:19] Wine is free [04:19] But it's not used for those purposes most of the time. [04:19] (ubuntu supports nvidia-glx...) [04:19] Windows software may or may not be free [04:19] Wine is also quite flakey still. [04:19] wine works great for me [04:19] XVampireX: More often then not it isn't free. === Jucato wonders which part of "not from Kubuntu anyway" didn't get noticed... [04:20] Well yeah, figure why people want to use photoshop first [04:20] Oh, one more thing [04:20] What is being done for read/write of NTFS? [04:20] ntfs-3g? [04:20] Not installed by default? [04:20] mp [04:20] no [04:20] Oh [04:20] because it's beta [04:20] yes, very beta [04:20] XVampireX: what the forums tell you != what's actually happening. === manchicken thought there were patent reasons for that as well. [04:21] brb, cooking [04:21] Maybe for friendliness, you could supply the most needed software as a package on the CD... so people without internet connection could easily install it? [04:21] brb sleeping [04:21] XVampireX: ndiswrapper is there already [04:21] XVampireX: CDs only have so much room. [04:21] ndiswrapper is on CD? Oh, neat! [04:21] XVampireX: and when you find a cd that has unlimited space....do let me kow [04:21] XVampireX: yes, has been for ages. [04:21] Heh :) [04:22] yes, Ubuntu will be at the forefront of unlimited CD space Live CD's [04:22] I thought we had to download it from apt online repositories :( [04:22] XVampireX: i mean, we could include all of main on the cd, if it werent for space [04:22] Nowadays, security guys break the Mac every single day. Every single day, they come out with a total exploit, your machine can be taken over totally. I dare anybody to do that once a month on the Windows machine." [04:22] too rich [04:22] XVampireX: no, that would just be stupid. even !ndiswrapper tells you that [04:22] Hobbsee: DVD version? [04:22] you could raise some money with the DVD version you sell in amazon [04:22] XVampireX: most people dont have a dvd burner, nor the bandwidth [04:23] Well you sell CDs in amazon, yeah? [04:23] besides, that's been discussed on hte ubuntu-devel mailing list. go read it :) [04:23] someone does, yeah. not me personally [04:23] Why does the install media have to be beefy? [04:23] I'm not a mailing list guy :( [04:23] Why not just install minimally and then apt-get the rest? [04:23] That's what adept is for. [04:23] because maybe people don't have the internet connections? [04:24] fast or not at all [04:24] XVampireX: yes, but we're not suse/mandrake/{insert other distros with 5 cds} [04:24] XVampireX: Then how would having it on the DVD, or having it on amazon help them? [04:24] They would buy it [04:24] You would raise some money [04:24] How would they buy anything online without internet access? [04:24] and could use it for development [04:25] how would you know about ubuntu without internet access? :D [04:25] Development isn't that expensive. [04:25] if you want absolutely everything on cd, then you really need to go for another distro. or the dvd version. ubuntu isnt everything to everyone [04:25] I don't want everything on the CD [04:25] I want the neccessary things [04:25] And we do our best to provide what is necessary. [04:25] most, if not all, are on there :) [04:25] Thank you :) [04:26] ntfs beta stuff isn't necessary. [04:26] Matter of fact, it could really damage file systems. [04:26] I heard that [04:26] And that really isn't necessary. [04:26] what about FUSE? [04:26] the Desktop CD's are not meant for intensive recovery anyway (like KNOPPIX) [04:26] it's just what you define as "necessary" isnt what i define as "necessary" nor anyone else's "necessary" [04:26] Slow, unnecessary, not always the most stable. [04:27] Jucato: mind you, they're getting better. i think it was time for writing ubiquity that means it's not that full featured yet. [04:27] Oh, another thing, what about setting up an internet connection? [04:27] Jucato: FSF membership card is excellent for recovery ^_^ [04:27] XVampireX: What about it? [04:27] For example, I have a speedtouch modem, and I connect via PPTP, how would I set it up? [04:27] Hobbsee: for installing and running a Live CD, yes it's getting better. but for backupa and recovery like what KNOPPIX offers? maybe not [04:27] manchicken: bah [04:28] :P [04:28] Right now I'm using a router and I would like a direct connection as I have no idea how to connect directly [04:28] Jucato: true that. [04:28] XVampireX: kppp? it doesnt work out of the box though. [04:28] Ah [04:28] there's a README that documents why [04:28] Jucato: I learned that the easy way. Plopped in my membership card when I was having trouble. [04:28] That's the pain... [04:29] Hope it gets resolved in the future [04:29] manchicken: I have no plans of applying for membership just for a recovery card :P [04:29] XVampireX: Most of these weird services don't give their customers enough information to directly connect. [04:29] XVampireX: what's the plan? [04:29] Jucato: The membership card is merely a fringe benefit. Supporting GNU is the real benefit ^_^ [04:29] Hobbsee: Hmm? [04:29] oh. pain [04:30] Well, my plan is to get up and running with python === Hobbsee cant read [04:30] Jucato: They've been donating oodles of money to make free MMORPGs ^_^ === Jucato whistles innocently... "if you say so..." [04:30] So I can help with building interfaces for people who need usability [04:30] manchicken: hm... I presume you've read what happened to that campaign... [04:30] Jucato: Doesn't mean they aren't looking for other projects to support. [04:31] Jucato: gcc and emacs are still worth supporting. [04:31] Any idea if Linux Kernel will support force feedback on gamepads? [04:31] ah of course.. gcc... where would we be without that [04:31] Jucato: A bunch of source code. [04:31] Jucato: Not much to do with it. [04:31] or used another compiler... :D === Jucato is really groggy.... wonders why [04:32] Jucato: Why use anything else when you've already got the best one? [04:32] it's the only one I know anyway... I mean on Linux. [04:33] You mean on GNU? ;) [04:33] They have one for every OS out there. [04:34] Solaris, OSX, BSD, Win, Haiku, OS/2 [04:34] HPUX, etc. [04:34] I mean Linux [04:34] I haven't tried any of those [04:34] other ones [04:34] Kernels don't use compilers silly ;) [04:34] Operating systems use compilers. === Jucato sighs... GNU/Linux if you must insist [04:34] :P [04:35] GNU is all I insist on. GNU with a Darwin kernel feels exactly the same. [04:35] I tried Debian's GNU/Darwin the other day. [04:35] I didn't know it until I uname -a'ed it. === Jucato leaves manchicken with his gnu... [04:36] Was running KDE and everything. === Jucato tries to sleep... [04:36] Jucato: Yeah, good luck with that ^_^ [04:36] almost noon... and I can't sleep until the garbage truck passes by... [04:36] Wow. [04:37] I know that feeling. [04:37] It's 21:45 CST [04:37] Jucato: have you slept? [04:37] zakame: yeah.. dunno why I always feel sleepy the past days [04:38] hopefully not tse-tse :( === Jucato slept 2 AM to.. um.. hm.. 7 AM? [04:46] Last thing [04:46] Is there going to be a dialog for kubuntu like gdebi for installing debs? [04:46] or are you staying with right click? [04:46] oh shi-, I got hit by a dist-upgrade bug on adept-common and adept-notifier [04:46] bug #82651 [04:46] Malone bug 82651 in adept "File overwrite problem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82651 [04:47] iirc that was a plan. not sure if porting will push through... [04:47] You're trying to port it to Qt? === Jucato shrugs... [04:48] any workarounds on this? [04:49] --force-all [04:49] in dpkg [04:49] if in doubt, use the force [04:50] :P [04:50] well, aside from that [04:50] confirming the above-mentioned bug... [04:51] It should definitely be confirmed [04:52] looks like someone did it just now [04:52] that would be me :P === manchicken [n=manchick@c-76-16-240-139.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:52] wb manchicken [04:52] ty [04:53] Just switching lappies. [04:53] Oh, and for feisty you can add basKet instead of knotes === Jucato wonders if he should wb manchicken too... [04:58] Jucato: Why wouldn't you? ;) [04:58] hehe [04:58] because I should be sleeping lol === Jucato trying to fight it... with food [04:58] brb lunch [04:58] Then get to it. [04:58] kain na tayo zakame :D === manchicken is not Philipino :P [04:59] still cooking lunch [04:59] Filipino :P [04:59] Pinoy [04:59] filipino. [04:59] manchicken: that meant "let's eat, zakame" [04:59] Ah. [04:59] notice where the comma is, btw [05:00] heh [05:00] because "let's eat zakame" would be totally weird... [05:00] lol! [05:00] not to mention it would probably taste bad :P [05:00] It's good that you wouldn't want to join others in consuming your buddy zakame ;) [05:01] hah there are so few Filipino ubuntu members, I'd rather turn us into an endangered specie === Jucato eats [05:02]