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faLUCEzorglu_: so, are system's API a LINUX (UNIX) specific stuff but more generic than kernel's api?12:15
zorglu_faLUCE: hehe :) i would suggest you to read books about that12:15
zorglu_faLUCE: i mean you wont understand what is a kernel on a irc channel :)12:15
faLUCEzorglu_: i see12:16
faLUCEzorglu_: one last thing: where are kernel's headers located?12:16
zorglu_good question  :)12:17
zorglu_faLUCE: well in the original kernel source obviously, typically /usr/src/linux12:17
zorglu_faLUCE: but it is possible to get a package with only the header12:17
zorglu_linux-headers-2.6.17-10 <- something like that12:18
megamacedyou mean linux-headers-686 ?12:18
zorglu_/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.17-10 < and in this case this is located here12:18
faLUCEok zorglu_ i know that but, in this case what /usr/include/linux/ does contain?12:18
intelikeyUnable to load the requested driver: Unable to create the Foomatic driver [HP-PSC_750,gimp-print] . Either that driver does not exist, or you don't have the required permissions to perform that operation.  <<< running as root   i get that for any printer i select.12:18
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zorglu_faLUCE: in theory this is linux specific include12:19
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zorglu_faLUCE: and in practice im not sure, but this is clear that userspace SHOULD NOT include kernel header :)12:20
intelikeyyou know i believe ubuntu P's me off more and more each time i "try" to use it...12:20
zorglu_faLUCE: in fact i even remember several userspace soft doing it and kernel guys being pissed because of it12:20
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faLUCEzorglu_: so you mean that /usr/include/linux/ is a sort of an ambigous space?12:21
faLUCE:)12:21
faLUCEa sort of "limbo"?:)12:22
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zorglu_yeah like twilight zone but on mars :)12:22
faLUCE:) ok12:24
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faLUCEok zorglu_ thanks for the explanations:)12:25
faLUCEbye all!12:25
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ubuntuhi12:26
wiskzitoHI12:26
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ubuntui got a problem everytime i reinstall ubuntu and DL updates it changes my filesystem to ext2 from ext312:27
ubuntuhow  to stop it plz?12:27
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pedahzurWell, you really don't want to.  ext3 is much more robust.12:27
wiskzitoAnyone knows if i can send custom emoticons from kopete???12:27
pedahzur(journaling, etc)12:27
ubuntupedahzur:  wat is better ext2 or ext3 ?12:27
pedahzurubuntu: ext3 is better.12:28
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pedahzurSoooo....I saw that KDE 3.5.6 has packages for edgy...any chance we'll get them for Dapper soon?12:28
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ubuntupedahzur:  but why after i DL updates it changes to ext2?12:28
BluesKajwiskzito, do you think anyone really cares about emoticons here ? :)12:28
pedahzurSorry...misread your question.12:28
pedahzurUbuntu: I thought it was changing it the other way.12:29
megamacedKDE 3.5.6 won't get packaged for Dapper12:29
pedahzurBummer.12:29
wiskzitoI dunno, but .....12:29
AxlRosehow do u set a permenent refresh rate in xorg.conf12:29
pedahzurubuntu: what gets changed?  /etc/fstab?  or the output from "mount"?12:29
wiskzitoBluesKaj, what i wanna know, is, why i can receive them, but cant send?!12:30
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Phlostenhello all12:30
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ubuntupedahzur: dunno everztime i boot it says fileststem ext2fs12:30
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intelikeytty4 [root@~]  fuser -k /home12:30
intelikeytty4 [root@~]  umount /home12:30
intelikeyumount: /home: device is busy12:30
megamacedubuntu; As does mine, but that's EXT312:31
Phlostenis there any way to get rid of that 'loading application' dialogue when running non-kde apps?12:31
ubuntuso no ext2 right?12:31
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megamacedubuntu: in terminal, do 'nano /etc/fstab'12:31
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megamacedyou should see 'ext3'12:31
BluesKajdunno wiskzito , sorry12:32
ubuntui am on live CD now12:32
shriramcan someone here help me with configuring my ATI radeon x1300 graphics card?12:32
ubuntubut will do asap i install it12:32
wiskzitoBluesKaj, thx man!12:33
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BluesKajshriram, what do you mean by "configuring " ... being anATI card there's the default driver version and there's the binary driver version12:34
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acemohow can i install a webcam? (webcam is build into the laptop)12:35
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Gularswhenever I try to apt-get install something I get this warning: The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:  libfame-0.9 libpvm3 libpostproc0d libnspr4-0d libgadu3 libdvbpsi4 libxosd2  libpostproccvs51 libvlc0 vlc-nox transcode libdvdnav4 libiso9660-4 vlc  libmeanwhile1 libtar libvcdinfo0 libnss3-0dUse 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them12:36
acemogulars: type sudo apt-get autoremove12:36
Gularsaltho I know I want at least some of those12:36
Gularshow do I change their status?12:36
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megamacedeasiest thing is just remove, then reinstall them12:37
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yukiDoes anyone know of any MOV to AVI converters that'll run on Ubuntu? :)12:37
BluesKajshriram, if you want DRI which helps with GUI's such as the google earth  to work properly then this is the site you should look at :https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-c966b2cb7c82944d6883f27a2896725db3b90a3a12:38
ubuntutry to google movtoavi or mov2avi12:38
BluesKaj!tovid | yuki12:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tovid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:38
yukithanks12:38
BluesKajoops try tovid , yuki12:38
yukihehe :)12:38
yukialright, I'll search it12:39
BluesKajthere's a tovid help chat here but nmobody seems to be around atm12:39
Shak1i need to update my $JAVA_HOME variable . someone has an idea where the sun_JDK_environment_path is at? i cant fint it with locate... mmmpf12:40
BluesKajShak1, try it in the konq address box12:40
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Exotics_userMATH PROBLEMS - EROTI-C SIDE OF MATHS :) http://exotics.ezbbforum.com12:42
Exotics_userEXOTICS ADULT FORUM ::::::::::: http://exotics.ezbbforum.com .....12:42
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BluesKajShak1, /usr/share/app-install/icons/_usr_lib_j2se_1.4_jre_plugin_desktop_sun_java.png12:43
morticiis samba 3.0 in kubuntu repos yet?12:43
dopei live in orlando12:43
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BluesKajmortici, if you sudo apt-get update , it should be there12:45
morticihmmm12:46
morticiseems i can't access shares on the vista machine :/12:46
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BluesKajthere's a 3.02 something samba in synaptic12:46
morticiindeed12:47
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BluesKaji installed komba2 after insatlling samba and it found my wife's XP machine on our home network very quickly12:49
dawn!komba212:49
ubotukomba2: KDE Samba browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.73.beta-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 173 kB, installed size 748 kB12:49
dawnhmmm interesting12:49
BluesKajsmb4k is really buggy so i don't use it12:50
morticihmmm12:51
morticihow do i restart samba?12:51
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bergeronhi, if i wanted to modify the login behavior of kdm, would i modify /etc/pam.d/kdm or /etc/pam.d/kdm-np or both?12:53
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kkosmo!alies12:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about alies - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:53
kkosmo!alias12:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about alias - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:53
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BluesKajmortici, system/settings/filesharing/admin mode12:55
BluesKaj!aliases12:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about aliases - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:57
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sleepy745anyone use irssi ?12:59
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holleHallo01:00
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XenThraLHi, how do I make shortcuts to folders that behave like normal folders ?01:01
XenThraL(that is, don't have .desktop at the end, and appear in folder lists)01:01
LjLXenThraL: i guess you want a symlink01:01
XenThraLI don't know what that is01:02
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XenThraLbut I want a shortcut folder like the one that comes in your home folder, the 'examples' one01:02
LjLXenThraL: "man ln". you want "ln -s blah blah"01:02
megamaceduse 'ln -s /path/to/file /path/to/shortcut01:02
XenThraLuh?01:02
LjL!cli01:02
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands01:02
megamacedXenThraL: use 'ln -s /path/to/file /path/to/shortcut01:02
LjLXenThraL: it's a command you type in a terminal01:02
LjLperhaps there's a way to do it graphically in KDE, but i don't really know01:03
XenThraLoh I know, was just kinda weirded out that I would need konsole to do it01:03
fignewyou don't01:03
megamacedcommand line is quicker anyway :)01:03
XenThraLkinda isn't for me01:03
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megamacedIt is if you know what you are doing :P01:03
XenThraLnot the case if your coming from windows01:04
fignewXenThraL: when you drag and drop a file01:04
LjLsays who... anyway, i know the CLI way but not the KDE way, and i guess most of us do the same01:04
fignewit asks you if you want to copy it, move it, or link it!!01:04
fignewreally straightforward stuff01:04
XenThraLoh, that worked01:04
XenThraLfignew: I was trying to drag with the right mouse button01:05
LjLfignew: except that creates a .desktop file01:05
XenThraLd'oh01:05
XenThraLbut it works right01:05
LjLnot a symlink01:05
megamacedI was going to bring up the DOS command prompt. But then I remembered it's so useless that most Windows users don;t use it :D01:05
XenThraLit created a folder01:05
XenThraLnot a .desktop file01:05
XenThraLa 'italic' folder01:05
LjLdidn't try it with a folder, i tried it with a file01:05
LjLyeah, with folders it actually makes a symlink01:06
LjLnot so with files01:06
LjL(a behavior on which i have an opinion, but i won't share it)01:06
XenThraLthanks btw :)01:07
XenThraLbeen driving me nuts01:07
esaymanyone know how to get kdar to do a backup through ssh?01:08
XenThraLoh yeah, another question01:12
XenThraLhow do I assign extensions to programs?01:12
XenThraLits recognizing .cbp as a text file, and so to add a program to it (by right click on the file, properties, edit file type) it would add to all text files the program I pick, wouldn't it?01:14
XenThraLor just .cbp, even though it says "text file" ?01:14
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AxlRoseis it possible to have the composite extension and DRI enabled with the Radeon driver01:15
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Shak1xenthrat: konqueror --> Settings -Configure Konqueror -> File Associations    if that helps01:15
megamacedXenThraL: In Konqueror, go Settings > Configure Konqueror > File Associations01:15
Shak1^^01:16
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megamacedbeat me to it :D01:16
XenThraLthanks :D01:16
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XenThraLthis # rocks btw01:16
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ssmasudI have installed tk8.4 from a src distribution...now I need to uninstall it....i have tried "make uninstall" but it doesnt work....what to do?01:22
XenThraLhum, having a little trouble, managed to get the .cbp file recognized, but when I click on it, it tries to launch the application (even though an instance is already open)01:24
XenThraLhow can I make it open the file and 'send it' to the already open program?01:24
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phobiacI just used apt-build to build and install firefox, but after waiting for at least a half hour for it to compile I got this.01:27
phobiacWARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! libnspr4 libnss3 firefox01:27
phobiacE: There are problems and -y was used without --force-yes01:27
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ubuntuI'm on livecd - how do I edit xorg.conf file now?01:28
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megamacedubuntu: you can't01:28
phobiacThere's still files in the /var/chache/apt-build/build directory, is there any way to get apt-build to continue with the install?01:28
ubuntumegamaced: not, on cd, but on my harddrive01:28
menaFriendes why i have a problem with desktops while sewtching btt them using beryl01:29
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menai mean i cant send ap to them01:29
megamacedubuntu: have you mounted your hard drive?01:29
menaand i cant set number of desktops correctly01:29
ubuntumegamaced: I just booted into livecd01:29
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megamacedubuntu: well you need to mount your hard drive if it isn't already01:30
ssmasud_I have installed tk8.4 from a src distribution......I want to remove it.....how do we remove packages installed from src distributions??....i have tried "make uninstall" but it doesnt work01:30
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ubuntumegamaced: what is the command01:30
phobiacssmasud_: It should be listed in your packages. I think.01:30
megamacedWell that depends on what hard disk / partition  that the root directory is installed on01:31
phobiacHave you looked in adept or synaptic?01:31
megamaced /dev/hda1 for example01:31
ubuntumegamaced: sda partiton 301:31
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megamacedcan you see it in Konqueror > Storage Media?01:31
ubuntumegamaced: sudo -i first?01:31
maziahhiyas, anyone recommend a kde partition manager?01:32
ssmasud_phobiac.......how do i check in those packages.....??...i have not installed it from "sudo apt-get install tk"...i have installed it from a src distribution.....01:32
ubuntumegamaced: mount /dev/sda3 to where?01:32
megamacedmaziah: sudo apt-get install qtparted01:32
maziahthank you01:32
megamacedubuntu: I guess you will have to creat a directory, like /media/<name>01:33
phobiacssmasud_: Have you looked in adept and/or synaptic for the package? I'm pretty sure things built from source are still uninstallable from them.01:33
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Jenny_2hi all01:33
Jenny_2EXOTICS ADULT FORUM ::::::::: http://exotics.ezbbforum.com ...01:33
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Jenny_2EXOTICS ADULT FORUM ::::::::: http://exotics.ezbbforum.com ...01:33
Jenny_2EXOTICS ADULT FORUM ::::::::: http://exotics.ezbbforum.com ...01:33
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phobiacWARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! libnspr4 libnss3 firefox01:33
maziahi will try feisty alpha 301:33
phobiacE: There are problems and -y was used without --force-yes01:33
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BluesKajmaziah, even better , try GParted01:33
phobiacAhh wth, sorry. Didn't mean to post that again.01:33
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phobiacBluesKaj: I don't trust Gparted anymore :(01:34
jordo23whats the command line to see which version of kubuntu I am running?01:34
maziahuname -a01:34
BluesKajworks well for me  , phobiac01:34
jordo23phobiac: I just redid my system five minutes ago with QTparted....worked as well as Gparted...01:34
ubuntumegamaced: I mounted successfully the right parition01:34
ubuntumegamaced: now do I kdesu kate?01:35
megamacedokay, so where did you mount it?01:35
baroreggae01:35
ubuntumegamaced: /media/sda301:35
phobiacI had it resize, copy then paste, and then resize again two partitions. It destroyed most of the data on both of them.01:35
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megamacedubuntu: what you need to do now is 'nano /media/sda3/etc/X11/xorg/conf'01:35
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ubuntumegamaced: I like kate01:36
phobiacI had to reinstall linux and I'm considering even bothering to reinstall windows. Oh well, didn't lose anything horribly important.01:36
megamacedSorry, I meant: ubuntu: what you need to do now is 'nano /media/sda3/etc/X11/xorg.conf'01:36
BluesKajcopy and paste01:36
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BluesKaj?01:36
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ubuntumegamaced: I prefer kate01:36
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megamacedwell if you prefer kate, just replace nano with kate01:36
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megamacednano is quick and easy though. Much better for editing files as root01:37
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phobiacGparted can copy the data from one partition into the free space of another.01:37
BluesKajphobiac, what were you copy and pasting in partitions ?01:37
phobiacErr, I mean free space on the drive.01:37
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phobiacIt's supposed to make of copy of the data from one partition and paste it in the free of somewhere else on the drive.01:38
ubuntumegamaced: ok done. I'm 100% I fixed the problem now01:38
phobiacIn hindsight I should have copied, checked it, then deleted. Instead of automating the process.01:39
ubuntumegamaced: do I need to unmount or just reboot?01:39
phobiacOh well.01:39
megamacedubuntu: what was the problem anyway? LOL01:39
BluesKajwell you have move and/or resize them01:39
ubuntumegamaced: nonworking kdm theme01:39
megamacedubuntu: I don't think that has anything to do with you xorg.conf file01:39
ubuntumegamaced: + nvidia drivers distorded ttys01:39
phobiacBluesKaj: If you right click on the partition in the graphical representation of your drive, it gives you the option to copy.01:40
ubuntumegamaced: so I had to revert nvidia to nv to use tty01:40
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megamacedubuntu: you don't need to unmount, just reboot01:40
ssmasud_phobiac thanks....that worked01:40
BluesKajwell using any partition editor can be risky , but automation is a scary way01:40
phobiacssmasud_: Np01:40
ubuntumegamaced: now I reboot, stop kdm in tty and use startx01:40
ubuntumegamaced: you see with nvidia I can't read ttys01:40
ubuntumegamaced: colorful garbage01:41
phobiacYeah, like I said it was a stupid move. Luckily everything of value to me was on a third partition that I didn't touch and don't plan on ever touching.01:41
ubuntumegamaced: thanks for help01:41
megamacedwhat do you mean by ttys?01:41
baroirc://chat.freenode.net:6667/#grass01:41
barohelp me01:41
ubuntumegamaced: ctrl-alt-f1..f601:41
phobiacbaro: What's your problem?01:41
ubuntumegamaced: how you call them?01:41
BluesKajat any rate i have easy access to the hda/ntfs partition and vice versa if need be01:41
megamacedubuntu: terminal; sessions?01:42
ubuntum'kay01:42
megamacedubuntu: I am using binary blob and I have no problems01:42
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phobiacI like Gparted, it did what it was supposed to *almost*. Next time I'll just be more careful. If there is a next time, which I don't plan on their being.01:42
megamacedubuntu: I am using latest nVidia debian packaged drivers from this repo: http://www.albertomilone.com/instructions.html01:43
ubuntumegamaced: ah I got another problem that I can't use beryl because of turbocache memory bug01:43
ssmasud_phobiac...I am installing a package which has tcl/tk as its own....now i have completely removed tk but it still says that some symbols are defined.....how do i install that package???01:43
ubuntumegamaced: they haven't fixed it now a few months01:43
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ubuntufuck them, my next card will be intel01:44
phobiacssmasud_: I don't understand what you mean. Is it giving you an error?01:44
ssmasud_yes ...you want me to past it on pastebin??01:44
phobiacSure01:44
phobiacSo I ask again, I just used apt-build to build and install firefox, but after waiting for at least a half hour for it compile I got this.01:45
phobiacWARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!01:45
phobiaclibnspr4 libnss3 firefox01:45
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phobiacE: There are problems and -y was used without --force-yes01:45
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baroyeah01:45
phobiacbaro: You're having a problem?01:45
baroyes01:46
phobiacWhat is it?01:46
baroirc://chat.freenode.net:6667/#grass01:46
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phobiacWhat about that?01:46
barocome si ci v01:46
phobiacJust say your problem here so anyone who might know more then about it can help too.01:47
barosorry01:47
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phobiacBaro: Hablan espanol?01:48
phobiacMy spanish is poor, but yeah.01:48
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LjLthat's italian01:49
ssmasud__phobiac...sorry i think i was disconnected...did u say anything in between??01:49
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phobiacAh okay, I'm horrible with languages.01:49
phobiacssmasud__: Nope, just waiting on the pastebin.01:49
ssmasud__phobiac..http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3897/01:49
LjLbaro: just type   /join #grass01:49
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phobiacHoly zombie jesus there's an error in every line of that.01:50
ssmasud__phobiac.....the error starts only when NS2 enters into tk installation.....i have tried building it with "tk=no" but it still doesnt work01:51
lovelycan anyone help me? I have just reinstalled kubuntu and the x server is loading as the smallest screen size available. I have tried going thru the system sttings to adjust but am unable. I have tried resetting the x server multiple times. any suggestions?01:51
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phobiac!resoultion | lovely01:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about resoultion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:51
phobiac!resolution | lovely01:52
ubotulovely: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:52
phobiacLovely: Second link in that should help you.01:52
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phobiacssmasud__: I don't know how to help you any further. Sorry. It suggests a site for help at the bottom of that though, try there?01:53
ssmasud__phobiac...yes it doesnt work either01:53
ssmasud__:)01:53
BluesKajlovely, have tried in system settings/monitor&display/hardware/adminmode/configure/apply01:53
phobiacssmasud__: Works for me01:54
ssmasud__phobiac....yes the site works but it doesnt resolve my issue01:54
phobiacYeah I see that now.01:54
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Kevin_1hi all01:55
Kevin_1EXOTICS ADULT FORUM :::::::::: http://exotics.ezbbforum.com ....01:55
Kevin_1EXOTICS ADULT FORUM :::::::::: http://exotics.ezbbforum.com ....01:55
Kevin_1EXOTICS ADULT FORUM :::::::::: http://exotics.ezbbforum.com ...01:55
Poomyay it works now, thnx you xsacha and juano01:55
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phobiacThat's the second time we've been spammed.01:55
ssmasud__phobiac...God have mercy on my soul..I am trying to install NS2 since about a month....i have projects pending:)01:56
BluesKaj3rd01:56
hattaI don't like spam01:56
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phobiacAh, I messed the first.01:56
phobiacssmasud__: What is NS2?01:56
meteor-1500hi - is there some packages you can install on kubuntu amd64 to get x86 binaries to work too?01:56
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jordo23!version01:57
ubotuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell01:57
meteor-1500i thought one of the ideas of amd64 was that you can run legacy 32 bit as well01:57
ssmasud__phobiac....its a Network Simulator.....01:57
phobiacAh okay01:57
jordo23I ran apt-get dist-upgrade and I am still at dapper, what else to I have to do to get to edgy?01:57
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phobiacjordo23: You restart?01:57
jordo23phobiac: Yeah....01:57
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phobiacHmm, that's really odd.01:58
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jordo23phobiac: Completely rebooted....still says dapper, although now Grub has two kernals listed....01:58
phobiacDid you try the other kernal? I don't see why Grub would list two though.01:58
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georgealguem pode me ajudar a atualizar o ams ?01:59
Jucato!es01:59
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.01:59
BluesKajgrub lists both kernels after a distro upgrade ...it did for me01:59
Jucato!pr01:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:59
Jucato!pt01:59
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ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.01:59
BluesKaj!pt01:59
barokubuntu01:59
phobiacIt didn't do that for me that I recall.01:59
XenThraLhum, having a little trouble, managed to get the .cbp file recognized, but when I click on it, it tries to launch the application (even though an instance is already open)02:00
XenThraLhow can I make it open the file and 'send it' to the already open program?02:00
barowhi is riddell?02:00
gavincheyguys is anyone else having problems with X.org and KDE? It can go days without a hitch then when I fire up half a dozen differnet websites the cpu jumps to 50-60% asnd stays there. Either this is a bug with X + accelerated drivers or KDE? I presume its a well know issue?02:00
barowho02:01
barochmod02:01
jordo23Jucato: I redid my system using a dapper cd....i ran dist-upgrade but it still says I am running dapper.....what should I do?02:01
Jucato!upgrade | jordo2302:01
ubotujordo23: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)02:01
Riddellbaro: ?02:01
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meteor-1500anyone here running amd64 and have x86 binaries working?02:01
Jucatofdoving: are you around?02:01
jordo23Jucato: I already did those....02:01
jordo23!version02:02
ubotuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell02:02
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barowho can resolse the sintaxa of mine chmod group rwx???02:02
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morticianyone good with samba02:02
morticiseems to be broken on my pc02:02
TheFrederickhi all...02:03
hyper_chmortici: whats wrong?02:03
TheFrederickEXOTICS ADULT FORUM ::::::: http://exotics.ezbbforum.com02:03
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hyper_chTheFrederick: hi02:03
TheFrederickEXOTICS ADULT FORUM ::::::: http://exotics.ezbbforum.com..02:03
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meteor-1500lol02:03
morticiwinxp doesn't see any samba directories02:03
hyper_chmortici: then get rid of winxp :)02:03
morticilol02:04
mortici:P02:04
barochmod =rwxrwxrwx i can rws on awhit any nick?02:04
ssmasud__what is X11R6????02:04
hyper_chmortici: are you sure to have samba setup correctly?02:04
hyper_ch!X11R602:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about X11R6 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:04
morticii can access the windows shares from my linux box02:05
morticibut not the other way around02:05
underdog5004!ops02:05
ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, or DBO02:05
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gnomefreak?02:05
underdog5004spammer for erotic sites02:05
hyper_chmortici: I've never tried to access windows shares from linux... only the other way around02:05
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Hobbseenalioth: ping?02:05
morticihyper_ch: do you have a guide i can use?02:05
morticiim using KDE to config samba02:06
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phobiacOkay so, I'm still having that problem with apt-build.02:06
SeanTaterWhat alternatives to ark are there?02:07
hyper_chmortici: I use this config:   http://phpfi.com/19981102:07
morticiBAM02:07
phobiacI waited about a half hour for firefox to build and I got this: WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!02:07
phobiaclibnspr4 libnss3 firefox02:07
meteor-1500SeanTater: tar02:07
morticilol all of samba wasn't installed02:07
phobiacE: There are problems and -y was used without --force-yes02:07
morticisudo aptitude install samba fixed it :D02:07
morticinow to get it to work on linux :D02:07
SeanTatermeteor-1500: It's not drag-and-drop -- :P02:07
morticierr i mean vista :P02:07
hyper_chvist speech recognition can delete files :)02:08
phobiacAnyone know what I can do? All the files that apt-build built are still in the chache.02:08
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hyper_chphobiac: where's the problem02:08
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meteor-1500phobiac: delete them02:08
meteor-1500?02:08
jordo23!version02:08
ubotuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell02:08
SeanTaterphobiac: I've seen that one before02:08
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phobiachyper_ch: I used apt-build to build firefox and after waiting about a half hour for it to build I got this: WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!02:09
phobiaclibnspr4 libnss3 firefox02:09
phobiacE: There are problems and -y was used without --force-yes02:09
SeanTaterphobiac: It's inconsequential, but I can;t remember the option that alleviates it02:09
jordo23Jucato: Rebooted once more after running all commands on the upgrade wiki.....lsb_release -a  still says dapper....02:09
phobiacI just wanted to know if there's a simple way to get apt-build to continue or something.02:09
Jucatojordo23: a few things might have been held back. can you run dist-upgrade again?02:09
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SeanTaterphobiac: try --allow-unauthenticated02:09
jordo23Jucato: will try02:09
phobiacSeanTater: Hmm, I'll look through it's man again. After trying that.02:10
SeanTaterphobiac: it's just because they can't prove the debian people built it, that's because /you/ built it02:10
jordo23Jucato: 0 upgraded....0 installed.....looks clean....do I have to get a new sources.list?02:10
phobiacWill it start building firefox from scratch again?02:10
jordo23jordo23: Do I need one for the dapper lists?02:10
Jucatojordo23: can you pastebin your current sources.list?02:10
hyper_chwhy build firefox=?02:10
SeanTaterphobiac: yep, that's the option02:10
jordo23Jucato: (oops).....yesh02:11
Jucatojordo23: you're trying to upgrade to edgy right?02:11
SeanTaterphobiac: hold on --02:11
ssmasud__!X1102:11
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:11
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phobiacI was trying to see if I could get it to just install what it already built...02:11
SeanTaterphobiac: you /should be able to install firefox from apt-get, and it will install the one that you built02:11
hudsyhi! how can I install plugins for firefox???02:11
SeanTaterphobiac: that's the way the sources.list works02:11
Jucatohudsy: which plugins?02:12
phobiachyper_ch: I had to reinstall linux anyway and firefox was a little slow for me last time. I just anted to see if building it would speed it up.02:12
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jordo23jucato: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3898/02:12
hudsyto see videos02:12
phobiacYeah I know it's in the repos.02:12
hyper_chphobiac: just use the repos wherever you can... otherwise use swiftfox02:12
phobiachudsy: You mean extensions? They should install just like normal.02:12
jordo23Jucato: Naturally....they all still say dapper....do I have to generate an "edgy copy:02:12
Jucatohudsy: flashplugin-nonfree for flash videos02:12
hyper_chfor me it doesn't matter... ff is always open02:12
Jucatojordo23: er.. of course you need to have an edgy sources.list if you want to upgrade to edgy02:13
hudsyno, I mean mpeg....02:13
jordo23Jucato: I didn't know if that would happen automatically....02:13
phobiacEh, okay. I'll just stick with the repos then.02:13
hudsyand things like that02:13
Jucatohudsy: try mozilla-mplayer02:13
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hudsyok02:13
hudsythenks!!02:13
Jucatojordo23: er.. no. you have to change dapper to edgy yourself. that page on upgrading to Edgy says so02:13
Jucato(which you said you followed...)02:14
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jordo23Jucato: Can I generate a fresh sources.list from that website generator for Edgy....will that work?02:14
Poomhi, here is my problem: http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/596/snapshot7qz1.png02:14
jordo23!flash02:15
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:15
ubotuFlash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash02:15
Poomis there a way to fix the black color in that window ?02:15
hudsyit says it cant find the pakage mozilla-mplayer,.,,,02:15
Jucatojordo23: just follow the steps for the upgrade because there's a command there that will modify your sources.list from dapper to edgy02:15
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ubotujordo23: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)02:15
hudsyit says it cant find the pakage mozilla-mplayer...02:16
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Jucatohudsy: you need to enable the "multiverse" repository02:16
Jucato!multiverse | hudsy02:16
ubotuhudsy: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu02:16
Poomanyone ?02:17
ssmasud__where are X11 header files located??02:17
jordo23Jucato: Where in that article does it state to switch to the edgy repositories?02:17
LjLxincludes | ssmasud__02:17
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Jucatossmasud__: xorg-dev02:17
ubotussmasud__: When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   xorg-dev02:17
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Jucatojordo23: 2nd part of Step 202:17
Jucato"Then backup and change /etc/apt/sources.list from dapper to edgy. The backup will be: /etc/apt/sources.list.bak # cp /etc/apt/sources.{list,list.bak}; sed -i s/dapper/edgy/g /etc/apt/sources.list"02:18
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jordo23Jucato: got it.....didn't see that...02:19
jordo23Jucato: Skipped the backup and switch statement.....lol02:20
Jucatohm :)02:20
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jordo23Jucato: Oh yeah....there she goes....201 additional MB02:20
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lazybunzhi02:21
lazybunzI'm having problems with Kopete's AIM02:21
lazybunzit won't connect for some reason02:21
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lazybunzis it happening to everyone, or is it just my network?02:21
jordo23Jucato: Couldn't take the 64bit limitations and workarounds....went to 32 bit...:)02:22
Jucatoah02:22
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BluesKajjordo23, welcome 64bit refuge ...32bit :)02:23
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meteor-1500jordo23: did you try the ia32 libraries?02:24
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meteor-1500jordo23: i'm just trying that now to see if that'll get flash player and stuff going02:24
jordo23meteor-1500: I got flash working thru a chroot, but it was halting and full of hassle...02:25
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jordo23meteor-1500: Only took seven hours too....02:25
meteor-1500ah ok02:25
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meteor-1500jordo23: lol that's a real pain02:25
acemoim getting this error:02:25
acemo  File "/usr/share/EasyCam2/easycam.py", line 25, in ?02:25
acemo    import gnome.ui02:25
acemoImportError: No module named gnome.ui02:25
acemohow can i get gnome.ui?02:25
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morticiwth02:26
morticistupid vista02:26
jordo23meteor-1500: I wrestled with the decision, cause I built a nice 64 bit system, but I would....its just easier at this point...02:26
morticii can access shares on my linux box02:26
morticibut i can't access shares on vista from linux02:27
jordo23meteor-1500: Then only advantage to 64 bit is if you have over 4 gb of ram...02:27
jordo23How do you get the KDE clock off of 24 hour time again....02:28
Jucatojordo23: right-click -> Date & Time format02:30
XenThraLmy sound options disappeared02:30
XenThraLwhats the name of the kapp?02:30
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jordo23Jucato: Why can I never find that?02:30
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Jucatojordo23: it's not that hard to find out... :P02:31
JucatoXenThraL: kmix02:31
XenThraLthanks02:31
jordo23Jucato: Where in that menu....dont see the option...02:31
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dopehow do i turn autoindent on in the .vimrc file02:31
Jucatojordo23: right-click on the clock -> Date & Time format02:32
jordo23Jucato: No...I am there.....where in that menu.....don't see it under Time&Dates...02:32
stdinjordo23: in the Time & Date tab02:32
Jucatojordo23: the time format02:33
jordo23Jucato: What do you switch it to?02:33
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Jucatooh wait...02:33
stdinHH:MM:SS = 24hour , pH:MM:SS AMPM = 12hour02:33
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Jucatojordo23: btw, you can only see AM/PM if you switch to Plain type clock02:34
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jordo23stdin Jucato: I switched it to the other format, but time is still 24 hour....I even reloaded the clock.....reboot?02:34
Jucatojordo23: did you see my note above?02:35
Jucatojordo23: what type of clock are you using?02:35
stdinjordo23: normally a logout and login will do it, or just restart kicker02:35
jordo23Jucato: Yeah....set to plain....02:35
jordo23stdin: Yeah...will try that...02:35
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zakameuo Jucato02:37
ubuntuo02:37
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morticiis there any reason why a windows box is asking me for a password02:37
cpk1to verify you are who you say you are?02:38
phobiacmortici: It wants the password?02:38
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MinatakuIt's trying to make you think it has secuirty02:38
morticiyes02:38
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phobiacI'll go with Minataku's reponse02:38
Minataku"Look at me! I can ask for passwords too!"02:39
MinatakuXD02:39
morticilol02:39
morticiand not access it when you type the right ones02:40
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MinatakuExactly02:40
Minatakulol02:40
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roothi, need help with feisty installation please.02:40
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stdinroot: ask in #ubuntu+1 for feisty issues02:41
rootthanks02:41
MinatakuI honestly hope you're not root right now02:41
phobiacOh dear god yes.02:41
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rooti am02:42
MinatakuHe is02:42
phobiacOh god02:42
rootso ?02:42
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Minatakuroot: Bad, bad, bad idea02:42
Minatakuroot is for system maintenance ONLY02:42
rootand what ?02:42
MinatakuAll other tasks/activities/etc are for less privileged users02:42
phobiacAnyway it seems that the only good thing about reinstalling linux is that I finally got java working in firefox.02:43
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MinatakuYou are on IRC as root. This is a Bad Thing(tm).02:43
makuseruhow do you run a .bin file?02:43
MinatakuYou are very highly suggested to cease such unsafe activity02:43
rooti am in the install cd version, the only way to get irssi was to be in root.02:43
Minatakumakuseru: It depends on what type of .bin it is02:43
rootnot that i have to justify how i use my operating system to you.02:43
MinatakuType "file -zrk nameoffile.bin"02:44
makuserutheres diffrent kinds?02:44
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phobiacroot: There's something wrong with your CD then02:44
Minatakuroot: Then do not request help with removing any sort of virus, rootkit or similar02:44
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smaggardhey i have a question.. can i limit a user than can ftp via ssh to only be able to view his home dir?02:44
phobiacI was just now, a few hours ago, using irssi on a live CD sans root powers.02:44
morticiwtf02:44
morticithis is soooooooooooooo annoying02:44
Minatakumortici: What did it say it is?02:44
MinatakuOh, sorry02:44
MinatakuWrong m*02:44
MinatakuX3 >.<02:45
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makuseruhow do you run a shell script in a terminal02:48
ForgeAusirssi is suprisingly nice to use02:48
ForgeAusI don't get the fixation with using timestamps on everything IRC tho... still you can probably turn that off somehow02:49
phobiacIrssi is awesome.02:49
LjLmakuseru: make it executable and type its name (a full path, not just the name)02:49
LjLchmod +x filename will make a file executable02:49
stdinmakuseru: (if it's executable) like: ./myscript.sh02:49
stdinmakuseru: (if it's in the same dir)02:49
ForgeAusits basically ircii +02:49
phobiacirssi has saved me at least three times now02:50
ForgeAussaved you? as in what?02:50
ssmasud__how can I find any particular string inside a file???....with the "find" command???02:50
BluesKajyup, irssi helped me get out of an xserver-xorg jam by enabling me to logon to this room from the TTY ...very cool02:50
phobiacI've had issues that messed up xserver and I was able to pop into here for help from the CLI :D02:50
ForgeAusahh IC02:51
stdinssmasud__: with grep: grep string /path/to/file02:51
smaggardanyone know how to limit a user to only view his home dir?02:51
grim76smaggard: are you trying to limit them in FTP or in SSH, or do you want them just to connect via FTP and not SSH?02:52
smaggardi meant sftp sorry02:53
smaggardboth sftp and ssh.. i think i found it tho02:53
MinatakuForgeAus: You should see my timestamps02:53
Minataku[20:50:45]  Minataku ForgeAus: You should see my timestamps02:53
Minataku:D02:53
ssmasud__stdin...thanks02:53
stdinssmasud__: no problem :)02:53
grim76smaggard: sorry not sure on that one without changing perms on folders, and that could have very bad results.02:53
smaggardyeah exactly02:54
smaggardhaha.02:54
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ForgeAuslol02:54
phobiacMinataku: Yours look like mine, only I don't have the seconds.02:54
smaggardturns out, i didnt find it, once they actually changed the bash script like they talked about doing they couldnt log in heh02:54
Minatakuphobiac: I use XChat02:54
ForgeAushehe I like this one: The best advice about installing Vista: Dont!02:54
MinatakuAnd I prefer having the seconds on it :302:55
ForgeAushttp://talkback.zdnet.com/5208-12558-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=29596&messageID=552391&start=-102:55
smaggardive created a user for a client to be able to upload drawings to a folder, and i dont want him poking around in the rest of the system and looking in everyones home dirs02:55
phobiacI know irssi can have seconds, I just haven't configured it to show them.02:55
Minatakuphobiac: Ah02:55
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MinatakuI didn't mean to sound like a jerk when I said that, BTW (Sorry >.< )02:55
phobiacYou didn't man lol02:55
grim76smaggard: I did not think that the other homedirs were readable via other users unless they were allowed access by perms changes or acl changes.02:57
smaggardhmm02:57
smaggardlemme double check02:57
dopeanyone know anything about www.packetgarden.com02:57
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ssmasud__how do I comment a section of code in vi????.....i mean from line 10-line20.....commenting each line with # is a pain02:58
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smaggardwell, the user can login via ssh and go right into home dirs of other people02:59
phobiacWhy is it that a newly installed OS always seems to be running better then before?02:59
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stdinsmaggard: that's default, you can change it by removing the perms for "others"02:59
smaggardhow do i do that03:00
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stdinsmaggard: chmod o-x /home/username03:00
DaSkreechCmon Feisty beta!03:00
stdin(with sudo)03:00
smaggardah k03:01
smaggardthanks lemme try that03:01
ssmasud__how do I comment a section of code in vi????.....i mean from line 10-line20.....commenting each line with # is a pain03:01
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zakame`:10-20s/^/#/' ?03:01
smaggardah that did it, thanks!03:02
DaSkreechhow do I switch a pattern at the front of a word with a pattern at the back?03:02
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smaggardthat user can still browse the entire system tho.. i think i need a jail or something03:03
ssmasud__zakame.....if I want to comment a section without line numbers...do i have to use #/ ..../# ???03:03
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DaSkreechssmasud__: If it's a line it has line numbers :)03:03
ssmasud__DaSkreech....no i mean as we do in C lang..../*....*/ .....so there is also a way in vi...03:04
DaSkreechssmasud__: Nope bash doesn't respect that :003:05
ForgeAusDaSkreech having trouble bashing bash into shape?03:05
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DaSkreechForgeAus: A tad thought that was aimed at ssmasud__03:06
zakamesmaggard: you can select a section by `v' and moving the direction keys to select the section, then after that just do `s/^/#/'03:06
DaSkreechI'm trying to figure out hwo to swap a pattern in a word to somewhere else in the word03:06
zakamethat assumes your comment char is `#' on the first char03:06
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eMish_mozilla feels so much better than firefox. is it ironic ?03:10
morticiGAHHHHH!!! stupid shares, see with linux its nice and easy set a username set a password set a dir to share, and you can access just fine from windows, but reverse that and set no password or username to get access (so no restrictions) and set a share but it inisists on asking for a username/password03:11
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DaSkreechreally I've always ahd issues in teh opposite direction03:11
DaSkreechmortici: using the smb:// kioslave?03:11
zakamemortici: same prob here, my xphome doesn't seem to allow me to access its share03:12
morticiDaSkreech: yep03:13
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morticii can access the linux share absolutely no problem from windows03:13
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morticinot so if i try to access from linux03:13
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zakameindeed03:13
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georgealguem pode me ajudar03:17
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zakamemortici: does it look like bug #5263403:18
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stdin!br03:19
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.03:19
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morticiqhats the direct link to the bug?03:21
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zakamemortici: does it look like bug #5263403:22
morticion what bug trac?03:22
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zoskyhey yall03:23
morticizakame: give me a DIRECT link plz :P03:23
zoskynice to see a thriving scene in IRC03:23
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Twylighthello03:23
zakamemortici: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/5263403:23
TwylightI've got a bit of an issue03:23
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Twylightand I'm wondering if anyone would care to help me?03:24
stdindon't know unless you ask :)03:25
morticizakame: sort of, except i KNOW i  don't have password/username auth set on the windows box03:25
ag3rhi03:26
zoskycan yall belive ATI wont give me drivers for my card cause thier from 2k203:26
zakamemortici: indeed, same here in my situation03:26
ag3ri a total newbie...and i want to mount my other hard drives03:26
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ag3rbut i dont know how03:26
Twylightmy linux install, kubuntu is only working on the live CD, with an option for forced graphics mode 800x600 32 bit03:26
ag3rcan you help me?03:26
zoskyi hope kubuntu can do the trick03:26
DaSkreechag3r: do YOU KNOW HOW TO FIND YOUR HARD DRIVES?03:26
morticigranted i am on vista :/03:27
DaSkreechcaps :-P03:27
ag3ri have made an fdisk03:27
morticiit worked fine in XP tho wth03:27
ag3rand i see it03:27
Twylightwhen I don't use the forced setting, I get an out of range error from my MONITOR03:27
ag3rsorry for my english im from spain :$03:27
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phobiacOh, hey DaSkreech. You're one of the guys that helped me out the other night.03:27
Twylightwhat should I do, as it's not a hardware/driver issue?03:27
stdin!es03:27
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.03:27
DaSkreechphobiac: I think so. What was it with?03:27
phobiacWith that issue with me not being able to log in, yeah.03:28
zoskycan someone please help - does this wiki page mean my (macintosh) ATI xclaim card wont for with TV in. that card uses the rage 128 chip.03:28
zoskyis this the latest info > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsAti03:28
DaSkreechag3r: Woah Fdisk :)03:28
ag3rthx03:28
DaSkreechphobiac: Glad to help if I helped if not it wasn't me!!!03:28
DaSkreechag3r: ok well then a quick dirty way ok with you?03:28
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stdinif you can read english well there is: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions03:29
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ForgeAusits interesting that konversation accepts /nickserv as a command :)03:29
stdinForgeAus: it also can do /ns :)03:29
ForgeAuslol stdin nice shortcut :)03:29
phobiacDaSkreech: It's funny though. The whole issue turned out to be that my /home partition wasn't big enough. But then Gparted messed something up when I was trying to fix that and I ended up having to reinstall Linux.03:30
ForgeAus(or alias if you like)03:30
Twylightso, can anyone help me?03:30
redcliffehi - i'm trying to install 6.10 x86 on my machine, immediately after i hit enter on the dvd boot screen, i get a kernel panic in something related to acpi03:30
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redcliffei've tried pci=noacpi as an option, but no luck so far03:30
redcliffeany ideas?03:30
ag3rDaSkreech:03:30
stdinredcliffe: have you tried acpi=off too?03:30
DaSkreechag3r:03:30
ag3rcan you help me?03:30
rdarchcan anyone tell me what kernel version the latest kubuntu installer uses?03:30
DaSkreechag3r: ok well then a quick dirty way ok with you?03:30
ForgeAusok I have a question.. what does "show device icons" in configure desktop mean?03:30
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redcliffestdin: no didn't know about that option, will try it now03:30
redcliffethanks03:30
ag3rim from spain :$03:30
ag3ri cant understand if you use this words :P03:31
Twylight*sigh*03:31
DaSkreechag3r: Ah03:31
gravygoatTwylight: You're running entirely off the CD?03:31
DaSkreech!es | ag3r03:31
ubotuag3r: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.03:31
Twylightcurrently, yes03:31
DaSkreechGracias :)03:31
ag3rubotu:03:31
stdinredcliffe: I have to use "acpi=off pci=noacpi noapic nolapic" to boot03:31
DaSkreechag3r: It's a robot03:31
ag3rtheres nobody there to help me03:31
ag3rokei03:31
ag3rDaSkreech03:31
Twylightit boots ok from HD03:31
ag3rwhtas the command in terminal?03:32
ag3rmount?03:32
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ForgeAusI have 3 HDD partitions mounted that all show up on my desktop.... can I turn that off? (I'd prefer just to access them internally in konqueror)03:32
gravygoatTwylight: this problem only occurs running off the CD or is it when you boot off the HD?03:32
DaSkreechag3r: make a directory03:32
DaSkreechag3r: mkdir <foldername>03:32
Twylightboot off the hd03:32
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ag3rwhere?03:32
ag3rmedia?03:32
DaSkreech<foldername> can be anything you want03:32
DaSkreechag3r: if you like03:32
ubuntuhola a todos03:32
ag3rokei03:32
ubuntunecesito ayuda03:32
DaSkreechhola03:32
DaSkreech!es03:32
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.03:32
gravygoatTwylight: What type of video card, and why did you say you know it isn't a driver issue?03:32
ForgeAusbut I can't seem to remove the desktop items03:32
ForgeAus(erm icons)03:33
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Twylightit's an SIS video onboard thing03:33
ag3rDaSkreech: weel go03:33
Twylightold comp03:33
ag3rwell go03:33
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Twylightit's not a driver issue because the live cd works03:33
DaSkreechag3r:  ok then sudo mount /dev/<drive> /path/to/<foldername>03:34
DaSkreechag3r: you know the drive you want right?03:34
zoskyhow about that ATI xclaim TV-in capability... i have the rage 128v on my card and the wiki only lists the rage 128 pro not working -- are they the same or will it work ? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsAti03:34
ag3ryep...i think so03:34
Twylightthe two are the same. apart from one being a CD boot03:34
gravygoatTwylight: Did it ever work right off the HD install?  Sounds like the /etc/xorg.conf files are different03:34
dopehow do i search for a file through the command line?03:35
DaSkreechag3r: if you would like to make sure call me03:35
DaSkreechlocate <filename>03:35
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Twylightthe boot WORKS from the HD03:35
EruantalonHey I am thinking of buying a router for my homenetwork. Can anyone give me a good recommendation. I think i need/want wireless support a few lan ports and a wan port. I heard you can install linux on some of them is that true?03:35
Twylightit's not a problem with the install03:35
TwylightI just get no graphics03:35
ag3rDaSkreech:03:35
phobiacEruantalon: I've got a wrt54G that works pretty well03:36
ag3rsomthing like this sudo mount /dev/sda/home/ag3r/Disco103:36
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phobiacEruantalon: If you're so inclined there's also free (more powerful) firmware's availible on the internet.03:36
smaggardis there a way to set the default sftp dir?03:36
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DaSkreechsudo mount /dev/sda<number> /home/ag3r/Disco103:36
Twylightit's a monitor issue, and I want to know if I can set the HD boot to auto force resolution to 800x600 32 bit03:36
meteor-1500stdin: tried acpi=off, no difference03:36
DaSkreechYou need to add a number and a space03:36
gravygoatTwylight: I'd take a look at the /etc/xorg.conf file it uses when you use the live CD, and compare to the one you have on the HD.  Any forcing like that would be done in /etc/xorg.conf.03:37
meteor-1500still oops's03:37
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redcliffelol03:37
redcliffeoops03:37
Eruantalonphobiac: Are there any caveats?03:37
stdinredcliffe: I have to use "acpi=off pci=noacpi noapic nolapic" to boot, try that03:37
redcliffeit's part of a pci hardware probe03:37
redcliffeok03:37
Eruantalonand is this the one where you can install linux?03:37
Twylightgravy: that's impossible, as I can't SEE the file on the HD03:38
Twylight>.<03:38
redcliffestdin, does it matter where in the options list that is?03:38
phobiacEruantalon: So far I've had no problems with it all. The normal firmware is powerful enough too.03:38
phobiacEruantalon: I think it's linux, yes.03:38
cpk1Twylight: just mount the HD right now and look at it03:38
gravygoatTwylight: You can't boot to a text login either?03:38
cpk1Twylight: you cant even get anything on tty1 when you boot from HD?03:38
BluesKajhey the Thunderbird icon suddenly disappeared ... and it isn't listed in the properties edit file type ...anyone know how to fix this bug?03:38
Twylightnope03:39
phobiacEruantalon: If you plan on doing that though do some research first, it only works with certain versions if I remember correctly.03:39
Eruantalonphobiac: Hmm i also heard good things about linksys.03:39
Twylighthmm03:39
redcliffestdin, nup still panics03:39
Twylightmount the HD03:39
stdinredcliffe: it shouldn't matter, but I have the them in this order "noapic nolapic acpi=off pci=noacpi"03:39
phobiacIt's from linksys03:39
ag3rDaSkreech: "mount point does not exists"03:39
gravygoatTwylight: Then how do you know it's a resolution issue (if I can ask a silly question)?03:39
cpk1Twylight: well you can still mount your HD from the livecd and then look at your xorg.conf03:39
phobiacEruantalon: It's from linksys03:39
Twylightone at a time03:39
DaSkreechag3r: paste back what you typed03:39
redcliffeEIP acpi_hw_low_level_read03:39
TwylightI'm having trouble thinking03:39
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Twylightmedications and such03:40
DaSkreechdope: found it?03:40
ag3rsudo mount /dev/sda/home/ag3r/Disco103:40
dopeyea i got it03:40
ag3rsudo mount /dev/hdd /home/ag3r/Disco103:40
ag3rthis03:40
redcliffestdin, call trace starts from pci_read, acpi_hw_register_read, pci_bus_read_config_byte, pci_fixup_device, init03:40
redcliffedunno if that's useful03:40
morticidie file sharing die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!03:40
Twylightgravygoat: because I can run the live CD just fine03:40
ag3rDaSkreech: this is th hd im triying to mount03:41
ag3rDisco /dev/hdd: 200.0 GB, 200049647616 bytes03:41
ag3rsudo mount /dev/hdd /home/ag3r/Disco103:41
ag3rthat not okai?03:41
Twylightanyone notice that 6.10 comes without synaptic?03:41
gravygoatTwylight: I'm not trying to be dense here, but there are any number of reasons for things to not work - why do you say it's a resolution problem ?  Maybe your install just blew up when you did the HD install?03:41
stdinag3r: you need to mount a partition, not a device, so /dev/hdd1 maybe, not /dev/hdd03:41
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cpk1Twylight: mount your HD and compare the two xorg.conf files, and kubuntu uses adept not synaptic03:41
stdinredcliffe: hmm, I don't know, you can try asking in #ubuntu-kernel03:42
DaSkreechag3r: It's not hdd it's hdd<somenumber>03:42
DaSkreechag3r: type ls /dev/hdd <tab><tab>03:42
redcliffestdin, ok thanks03:42
DaSkreechit should give you a few options03:42
DaSkreechtell me if you see like hdd103:42
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ag3rnope03:42
ag3ronly hdd03:43
DaSkreechreally?03:43
ag3rtheres no partition in this hd03:43
DaSkreechAhh03:43
ag3rhehehe03:43
DaSkreechthen you need to make one :)03:43
ag3rim a fuc**n newbie03:43
ag3rxD03:43
phobiacEruantalon: Oh, another thing. It's compatible with B + G if you get the right one, so if you have older hardware you don't have to worry.03:43
ag3ri dont know how i see hehehehe03:43
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DaSkreech!partition03:43
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter03:44
Eruantalonphobiac: Looking good. REading up on it now03:44
Twylightdamn03:44
TwylightI'm losing motor funnntios03:44
Twylightnini all03:44
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DaSkreechag3r: use either gparted or qtparted03:44
EruantalonI was getting tired of having my server act as a router for the network all sorts of problems with that.03:44
DaSkreechphobiac: How was the reinstall?03:44
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ag3rokei03:45
ag3rthx03:45
ag3rlet me see somethiung03:45
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Eruantalonphobiac: Why does it say that it requires windows?03:46
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danny_8test (new IRC user) I'll be lurking03:48
DaSkreechag3r: I use qtparted but the consensus is that Gparted is a lot better03:48
DaSkreechag3r: you know how to install?03:48
ag3rnope03:49
ag3rbut03:49
ag3rin this hd03:49
ag3rtheres a partition03:49
ag3rim using it in windows03:49
ag3rbut i need to learn a few things03:50
ag3rbefore mount it03:50
ag3rim gonna read something more03:50
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Eruantalonphobiac: How good is the wireless connection. How far away does it work reasonably well?03:50
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ag3rDaSkreech:03:51
ag3rtheres a dev/hdd103:51
ag3rthere03:51
ag3rDisco /dev/hdd: 200.0 GB, 200049647616 bytes03:51
ag3rDisco /dev/hdd: 200.0 GB, 200049647616 bytes03:51
andy___is there any way to install kde in regular ubuntu?03:51
DaSkreechag3r: ok does it mount ?03:51
ag3rnope03:51
ag3rmount point error03:51
stdinandy___:  just install install kubuntu-desktop from synaptic03:51
DaSkreechandy___: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop03:51
ag3rel punto de montaje home/ag3r/Disco1 no existe03:51
ag3rmount point home/ag3r/Disco1 does not exists03:52
ag3rin english :D03:52
stdinag3r: have you make that directory ?03:52
ag3ryep03:52
ag3ri have just in front of me03:52
stdinag3r: did you put "/home/ag3r/Disco1" or "home/ag3r/Disco1" ?03:52
ag3rehm03:53
ag3r:$03:53
ag3rxD03:53
andy___thanks, guys03:53
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ag3rDaSkreech:03:54
MinatakuAaargh... I was playing a heated game of "Under Fire" and I hit Quit (ESC) instead of P1 Start (1) :(03:54
DaSkreechag3r: as a help you can type ~ and it always means your home folder03:54
ag3rits a type error03:54
DaSkreechag3r: works now?03:54
ag3rsure03:54
ag3rnop03:54
ag3ri copy it to you03:54
ag3rsudo mount /dev/hdd1/ home/ag3r/Disco103:55
ag3rsudo mount /dev/hdd1/ /home/ag3r/Disco103:55
ag3rthe same result03:55
ag3rmount point does not existe03:55
ag3rexists03:55
stdinag3r: no slash at the end of /dev/hdd103:55
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Poomcan some1 help me fix this problem03:56
Poomhttp://img525.imageshack.us/img525/596/snapshot7qz1.png03:56
stdinag3r: so try: sudo mount /dev/hdd1 ~/Disco103:56
Poomthe window is painted black03:56
stdinPoom: isn't that Ubuntu (not Kubuntu)?03:56
PoomKubuntu03:56
Poomin Kubuntu03:56
ag3rel punto de montaje /home/ag3r/Disco1 no existe03:57
PoomI have that in almost all non-kde programs03:57
ag3rim a fool!03:57
ag3r:(03:57
ag3rbut i see in konkeror ----> /home/ag3r/Disco 103:57
DaSkreechag3r: Ah!03:58
DaSkreechsudo mount /dev/hdd1 /home/ag3r/Disco\ 103:58
stdindarn spaces :P03:58
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Poomany idea ? perhaps something related to gnome missing ?03:59
ag3rlol03:59
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ag3rDaSkreech:03:59
ag3rnow i dont have permissions03:59
ag3rbut03:59
ag3rtheres no error03:59
DaSkreechag3r: ok try03:59
ag3ri supose it works03:59
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DaSkreechsudo chown -R ag3r ~/Disco\ 104:00
ag3rdont let me read04:00
ag3rbingo04:00
ag3rits working04:00
DaSkreechag3r: Cool :004:00
ag3rchown its the command to get permission?04:00
DaSkreechIf you want any explanation on all that just happened just ask04:01
Minatakuchown changes the ownership on a file04:01
DaSkreechit takes the owner of the folder from root and gives it to you04:01
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ag3rokei04:01
ag3rbut04:01
ag3rdont let me read04:01
ag3rsays only read sistem04:02
ag3rits an ntfs partition04:02
stdinyou need to install ntfs-3d ti write to it, and it's not that safe to write to it04:03
stdin!ntfs-3g04:03
ubotuntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)04:03
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DaSkreechag3r: That's correct It's read only04:03
DaSkreechYou can't write to the drive but you can read04:03
ag3ri only want to read04:03
ag3rnope04:03
DaSkreechwhats on it?04:04
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DaSkreechDocuments?04:04
ag3rmusic04:04
ag3rdocument04:04
DaSkreechOr media files?04:04
DaSkreechand they don't work?04:04
ag3ra lot of things04:04
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DaSkreecha lot of things don't work?04:04
ag3rsays that i dont have permissions04:04
ag3ri cant open it04:04
ag3ri cant read it04:04
stdinfor an ntfs partition try mounting like this "sudo mount /dev/hdd1 /home/ag3r/Disco\ 1 -o umask=0000"04:04
ag3ri try04:05
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ag3ri have to dismount04:05
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ag3ror not?04:05
DaSkreechag3r: do that but add remount at the end04:05
ag3rokei04:05
stdinif it's already mounted, you can use "sudo mount /dev/hdd1 -o remount,umask=0000"04:05
DaSkreech that way you don't have to unmount04:05
DaSkreechyeah :004:05
DaSkreech;-)04:05
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ag3r04:07
ag3rit doesnt work04:07
thelineHI all... Anyone know why I can't print in OO. All others print fine04:08
stdinag3r: any error message?04:08
ag3ri copy04:08
ag3rtheres no error message04:08
ag3ri put this "sudo mount /dev/hdd1 -o remount,umask=0000"04:08
ag3rand nothing04:08
ag3rwhen i click in disco 1 "you dont have permissions"04:09
ag3rto read04:09
DaSkreechcan you copy the line you get from ls -l ~/Disco\ 104:09
stdinor ls -ld ~/Disco\ 104:10
ag3ri put this in terminal04:10
ag3rand04:10
ag3rtheres no response04:10
ag3rthe same problem04:10
ag3rwait04:11
DaSkreechls -l <small L> not number one04:11
ag3rdr-x------ 1 root root 65536 2007-02-01 12:48 /home/ag3r/Disco 104:11
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stdinag3r: ok, try "sudo umount /dev/hdd1 ; sudo mount /dev/hdd1 ~/Disco\ 1 -o umask=0000"04:12
ag3rbingo04:13
ag3r:D04:13
ag3rthx04:13
ag3rwhats umask?04:13
stdinyou can add a line to /etc/fstab to do that automatically on boot04:13
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ag3rsay it to me04:13
ag3rxD04:13
stdinumask sets the permissions04:13
DaSkreechag3r: do the ls -l again and see if you can tell the difference04:13
grumblyhello...04:14
DaSkreechag3r: you can press up to get back the command04:14
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grumblyhow do I change the default framebuffer from vesafb?04:14
ag3r-xr-xr-x04:15
thelineAnyone know why I can't print in OO. All others print fine04:15
ag3r:D04:15
ladonlanag3r:  una pregunta, y no te molesto mas, 300 megas cuantos kbt son? espara indicar la particion de intercambio04:15
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Jucato!es | ladonlan04:15
ubotuladonlan: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.04:15
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stdinag3r: to mount it at boot, add this to /etc/fstab: /dev/hdd1 /home/ag3r/Disco\ 1 ntfs defaults,auto 0 0"04:16
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ladonlansorry04:16
ag3rstdin: i put this in terminal no?04:16
ag3r"/etc/fstab: /dev/hdd1 /home/ag3r/Disco\ 1 ntfs defaults,auto 0 0"04:17
stdinag3r: no, in the file /etc/fstab04:17
ag3rokei04:17
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stdinag3r: and don't put the part "/etc/fstab:" in it :)04:17
ag3rokei04:17
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DaSkreechtheline: What does it do?04:18
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ag3rstdin: DaSkreech04:19
ag3rthx men04:19
ag3rthx thx thx04:19
ag3r:D04:19
DaSkreechSure :004:19
stdinno problem :)04:20
DaSkreechWake up someone in #kubuntu-es and stick out your tongue at them04:20
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dbgltis there a way to tell if my ubuntu kernel has speedstep support built in?04:20
DaSkreechCheck the flags04:21
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dbgltDaSkreech: which ones, may I ask?04:21
dbgltin /proc?04:21
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dbglt...04:21
DaSkreechThat's as much as I know04:21
willHey guys, what04:21
galathaliondrugs04:21
dbgltok04:21
willwhat04:21
DaSkreechI know it would have to be a flag in the kernel but I've never checked my kernel flags so I'm not realyl sure how you'd get that04:22
dbgltI think my kernel upgrade has removed support for speedstep :04:22
dbglt:\04:22
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will'what's the opinion of edgy vs dapper.  I'm a newbie.  I'm using a dell laptop this a year and a half old.  I mostly am looking for ease of use.04:22
dbgltedgy04:22
Glider-MikeEdgy for the most current hardware support04:23
Glider-Mikethough Dapper aint bad04:23
Gretli switched to edgy - its nice04:23
stdindbglt: try "grep -i speedstep /boot/config-2.6.20-6-generic"04:23
willall my hardware is old, however I might hook some new external hard drives to it in the near future04:23
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DaSkreechwill: How?04:23
DaSkreechE-sata?04:24
willusb04:24
dbgltm = modular04:24
DaSkreechthen it doesn't matter :)04:24
dbgltmaybe the module is not being inserted04:24
stdinwill: my PC is over 6 years old, it runs edgy fine04:24
DaSkreechdbglt: possible04:24
stdindbglt: maybe put it in /etc/modules then04:24
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dbgltstdin: gotta figure out what the right module is first04:25
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dbgltand if that is even the problem :)04:25
willcool.  alright, then that brings me to my next question.  is it important to have the computer hooked up to the internet when doing a clean install off of downloaded CDs04:25
stdinwill: if you don't then you'll have to setup the internet connection after the install, then you'll probably need to enable the software sources in adept, but it's not required to have internet access04:26
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stdindbglt: modinfo may help, eg "modinfo speedstep-ich"04:27
willcool.  and does anyone have a recommended source list for Edgy?04:27
dbgltFATAL: Error inserting speedstep_ich (/lib/modules/2.6.20-6-generic/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/speedstep-ich.ko): No such device04:27
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stdinwill: you can get one at the source-o-matic site04:28
stdindbglt: it's not that one then :P04:29
DaSkreech!easysource04:29
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic04:29
dbgltstdin: I'm using a core 2 duo intel processor04:29
dbgltI tried all the speedstep-modules04:29
dbgltand for some reason I don't have a speedstep_centrino module04:30
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willThanks guys.04:31
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stdindbglt: what kernel version do you have?04:34
dbglt2.6.20-6-generic04:34
dbgltcentrino not needed there04:34
stdinahh, feisty04:34
dbgltnone of them work though04:34
dbgltit worked until I updated the kernel...04:34
dbgltbut I'm not sure if it is kernel related04:34
stdinI can't find it in 2.6.20-* , it's in 2.6.17 tho04:35
dbgltaye. I ran 2.6.20-5 with speedstep04:35
dbgltso it musn't be used anymore04:35
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dewittsdoes any one know why openoffice freezes up on my when trying to open a xls file?04:36
dewittsfrom mysql?04:36
dewittsits 700 kb04:36
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smaggardi finally got it... geez lol chroot sftp04:43
Murrlinman, I'm bestookered if I can figure out what to do or even how it happened.04:43
MurrlinI lost my /dev/dsp04:43
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smaggardman thats no good04:43
Murrlin(kubuntu 6.06)04:44
willhey what's the best format for backing up DVDs?04:44
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smaggardiunno..04:45
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smaggardwhadya mean format? like + or - R is ur question?04:45
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willno.  like divx? quicktime?  etc.  Is divx the same as mv4?04:45
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Balsamic_Chicken!pastebin | yuk04:48
ubotuyuk: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:48
Murrlinno, its there. but its busy.04:49
Murrlinhow do I tell what's using /dev/dsp?04:49
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stdinfuser -v /dev/sdp maybe04:50
stdinor lsof|grep /dev/sdp04:50
notechtypo'd twice in a row? :)04:52
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stdinyep, but I'm trying to learn to touch type04:52
stdinso i'm not looking down04:53
stdinI need to slow down tho :P04:53
hattairc is good practice04:54
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bizau should learn dvorak04:54
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adwelini dont understand how to install packages04:57
angasule!adept | adwelin04:57
ubotuadwelin: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto04:57
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angasuleadwelin: have you read that? It may help04:58
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adwelinyes but i downloaded avg antivirus and i cant install it04:59
KanuhaI put my PC in the family room and hooked it up to our big screen tv, only when I try to install ubuntu, it has the wrong resolution. How can I get it to start ubuntu with a different resolution without ubuntu running?04:59
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esaymman ssh -X is kick ass! lol05:00
stdin!antivirus | adwelin05:00
ubotuadwelin: antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus05:00
stdin!linuxvirus05:00
ubotuThe short life and hard times of a Linux Virus http://librenix.com/?inode=2105:00
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adwelinok05:00
stdinesaym: use -C to get compression too :)05:00
Murrlinneither fuser or lsof line showed snything05:00
adwelinthanks05:00
esaymI will try that05:01
adwelini'm really new on unbtu and i'm trying things...05:01
stdinadwelin: viruses are really just a windows thing :P05:01
angasule!repository05:01
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:01
MinatakuWow... that's the first time I ever used lsof... that's a lot of lines05:02
angasule!repository | adwelin05:02
ubotuadwelin: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:02
danychouinardHello. With xinerama, should I be able to have different screen resolution?05:02
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danychouinardHow can I tell KDE to set a resolution on my second screen that is not in the liste (I need 1440x900)?05:04
stdinyou'll need to reconfigure the X server for that05:04
stdin!xconfig05:04
ubotuTo reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes05:04
stdinuse the 2nd command there05:04
stdinand a helpful help page :) http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:05
ForgeAus!grub05:05
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto05:05
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danychouinardwell, it was easier to use aticonfig --dtop=horizontal --overlay-on=105:06
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danychouinardI had to tell KDE in the control panel to extend the display on the second screen.05:07
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biza!groups05:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about groups - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:10
biza!users05:10
ubotuTo add new users to your Ubuntu system, follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto - For administrative privileges, users need to be made members of the group "admin" - See !sudo05:10
biza!sudo05:10
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.05:10
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AxlRosecan anyone help me with themes05:17
phobiacKatapult won't open firefox05:17
AxlRoseI'm having a heck of a time getting any to work05:17
stdin!changethemes05:17
ubotu[Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu05:17
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phobiacKatapult won't open firefox but any other means of opening it work fine.05:18
phobiacAny ideas?05:18
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MinatakuHm05:19
Minataku!gputils05:19
ubotugputils: GNU PIC utilities. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.13.3-1 (edgy), package size 1272 kB, installed size 11104 kB05:19
MinatakuCool05:19
AxlRoseso u have to get themese from the Theme-Manager area.....what is the point of ht KDE3.2-3.5 section for then?05:20
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Dr_willisget themes from the theme manager area?05:20
|mmortalhey can someone send me a file i need to ese if my dcc is working05:21
Dr_willisI get theme 'parts' from the kde-look.org site.05:21
Minataku!gpsim05:21
ubotugpsim: Simulator for Microchip's PIC microcontrollers. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.20.14-7.3 (edgy), package size 476 kB, installed size 1604 kB05:22
MinatakuAwesome05:22
AxlRoseDr_willis:  I am talking about kde-look05:22
AxlRoseDr_willis:  but under Theme/Styles there are different categories05:22
Dr_williskde-look.org is so dissorganized its scary05:22
AxlRoseDr_willis:  definatately05:23
AxlRoseDr_willis:  I've tried downloading so many different things and NONE of them have been themes05:23
AxlRoseDr_willis:  but they were in the Theme area05:23
MinatakuToo bad I don't really care for the PIC's way of subtracting... Subtract W from literal... that's so backwards :\05:24
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AxlRoseDr_willis:  take this for example05:24
AxlRoseDr_willis:  http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=5234305:25
AxlRoseDr_willis:  I like the look of it, so I try installing it...and I get NOTHING05:25
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Dr_willisBecause I Care! :)05:25
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Dr_willisthat is a 'style'05:26
Dr_willislets seeif it compiles05:26
AxlRoseit compiled and installed for me05:26
AxlRosevut it doesn't show up anywhere05:26
Dr_willisthe fact it untared into a dir named 'vista' is enough to make me not want to touch it.05:27
Dr_willis:)05:27
AxlRoselol05:27
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Dr_willisits not wanting to compile.. due most likely to me not having the right Qt Dev files installed.. and the fact ive upgrade to kde 3.6.605:29
AxlRoseit compiled for me05:29
AxlRoseand installed05:29
AxlRosebut it installed some Lipstick theme things05:30
AxlRosewhich I though were already included05:30
stdinI think I compiled that (someone was having trouble with it), but they couldn't get it working, and I didn't bother installing it05:30
Dr_willisits a Qt issue here.. and i really aint going to work too hard to chase it down. :)05:30
Dr_willisIts HIGHLY possible the theme installed to the wrong kde dirs..05:30
AxlRoseso how do I know what's actullay a theme haha05:31
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Boo1ADULT FORUM , EXOTICS FORUM ::::::::::: http://exotics.ezbbforum.com ..05:31
Boo1ADULT FORUM , EXOTICS FORUM ::::::::::: http://exotics.ezbbforum.com ..05:31
Boo1ADULT FORUM , EXOTICS FORUM ::::::::::: http://exotics.ezbbforum.com .05:31
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Dr_willisAxlRose,  Technoicially a "THEME" is a file that defines what style/color/iconset to use.05:32
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ForgeAuswhats a good download manager for firefox?05:32
Hobbseethe one inside it?05:32
MinatakuIndeed05:32
AxlRoseDr_willis:  ya..and thats what I want to download...but alot of the stuff on KDE-look doesn't do that :S05:32
MinatakuHm...05:33
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Minataku!pikdev05:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pikdev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:33
MinatakuAw05:33
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ForgeAuswhats pikdev?05:33
makuseruhow can i play .avi's?05:33
MinatakuJust something I was looking up05:33
MinatakuIt's an IDE for Microchip PIC development05:34
MinatakuMy microprocessor class uses PIC16F84A05:34
Dr_willisAxlRose,  try   ./configure --prefix=/usr   and recompile/installing that theme05:34
AxlRoseDr_willis:  tryed it05:34
stdinmakuseru: you probably need w32codecs for that05:34
makuseruhave them05:34
AxlRoseDr_willis:  i've given up on that one05:34
stdinmakuseru: AVI is just a container, there are tons of codecs used in them, so some you can't play05:35
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makuseruwell how do i find out what i nee05:35
makuserud05:35
Gretlyou can try the automatx or easyubuntu scrpipts05:36
Dr_willisplay the file from a shell and with mplayer whatever.avi (or vlc whatever.avi) and see what they show it as05:36
Dr_willistheres ways to install the codecs WITHOUT using the potentially dangerous scripts like that05:36
stdinmakuseru: try "file /path/to/file.avi" and see if you get a codec05:36
stdinGretl: yeah, if you want a useless system when you upgrade05:37
makuserustdin: so "file movie.avi"05:37
Dr_williscool. file does that. :)05:37
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Dr_willisnever noticed THAT feature befor05:37
stdinyep :)05:37
Dr_willisvideo: XviD, audio: MPEG-1 Layer 3 (stereo, 48000 Hz)05:37
makuserustdin: 1.avi: data05:38
Dr_willislol05:38
stdinahh, god knows then05:38
Dr_willismy file is smarter then your file. :)05:38
makuseruconvert it to mpeg?05:38
MinatakuIf it says "data" then it's possible it's actually just garbage05:39
makuserunoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo05:39
Dr_willistry playing it with vlc from the shell it 'should' state what kind of file/codecs it sees05:39
MinatakuI haven't come across a legit video file yet that file(1) hasn't identified05:39
makuseruk, just a sec05:39
Minatakumplayer also attempts to figure out the codecs05:40
MinatakuIf you have that give it a run as well05:40
Fleebailey33vlc05:40
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makuseruit dosnt say05:40
Dr_willisdarn vlc.. ya USED to do that..05:40
Dr_willisvlc -v whatever.avi05:40
Dr_willisfor verbvose :)05:40
Fleebailey33=)05:40
MinatakuTry mplayer if VLC fails, run from the CLI mplayer is always loud05:41
Dr_willis vlc -v2  whatever.avi05:41
Dr_willisTHAT will get ya lota of info.05:41
makuseruhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3918/05:42
Dr_willisplayer says for me.. like...05:42
Dr_willisAVI file format detected.05:42
Dr_willisVIDEO:  [XVID]   720x480  24bpp  29.970 fps  793.7 kbps (96.9 kbyte/s)05:42
Dr_willisOpening video decoder: [ffmpeg]  FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family05:43
Dr_willisSelected video codec: [ffodivx]  vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg MPEG-4)05:43
Minatakumakuseru: As I feared...05:43
MinatakuWhat you have there is a file full of trash05:43
makuserujunk?05:43
Dr_willis:)05:43
makuserudammit05:43
Dr_willisNo Porn 4 U !05:43
Minatakulol05:43
makuseruits not porn05:44
makuseruTenacious D05:44
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Dr_willisNo Henti?05:44
makuseruno05:44
Minatakufile(1) is fairly inaccurate, but unless it's something really exotic or just plain garbage, it doesn't say "data"05:44
stdinit's probably a windows virus disguised as an avi :P05:44
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MinatakuI was looking at hentai since I was at least 1505:44
Dr_willisSo you watch Sailor Moon? :)05:44
makuseruXD05:45
makuseruno05:45
makuseruMinataku: i am 1505:45
Dr_willisCamp Lazlo ?05:45
MinatakuCamp Lazlo isn't anime05:45
Dr_willisIts all anime...05:45
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Dr_willis:)05:45
MinatakuGood show, though05:45
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makuseruMinataku: *shoves various mangas under my bed* shhhh05:45
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Minatakumakuseru: lol05:45
Dr_willisI like the "Fosters Home for Imaginary Friends" - its one of the better done cartoons out.05:45
Dr_willisalways amuseing...05:46
MinatakuDr_willis: Eh... Bloo pisses me off05:46
WMCoolmonhi, i was wondering if anyone knew how to get CVS working on a drive mounted with NTFS-3G?05:46
makuserui like, no american shows05:46
Dr_willisThe whole "Aqua Teen Hunger Force" thing - needs to be killed off badly.05:46
MinatakuHey05:46
MinatakuATHF rules05:46
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Dr_willisDrools.. :)05:46
makuseruhaha, ATHF, Boston05:46
Dr_willisHarvy Birdman Attourny at Law.. - THAT RUles. :)05:46
MinatakuBoston; now America's most retarded city05:47
Dr_willisI can see it now.. Harvy has to defent those 2 guys arrested for the ATHF stunt!05:47
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MinatakuOr perhaps05:47
makuseruthe only reason i watch Adult Swin is for the ocasional good dubbing they do of an anime, like FLCL05:47
Dr_willisHmm.. that has potential.05:47
Dr_willisVenture Brothers - is enteraining.05:47
MinatakuBoston; The only place on Earth where something similar to a Lite-Brite can be "mistaken" for a bomb05:47
Dr_willisSquidbillies.05:48
MinatakuKeep in mind these things were all over about 10 cities05:48
MinatakuIncluding New York City05:48
makuserureally?05:48
Dr_willisIf i had seen any.. i would of stole them. :)05:48
Dr_willismakuseru,  yes..  :)05:48
MinatakuYeah05:48
makuseruall the news stations photoshiopped out the middle finger05:48
MinatakuNote that nobody in NYC was stupid enough to think an LED sign was a bomb05:48
makuserucause them terrorists like to advertize their bombs05:48
Dr_willisthe caracter HAS no middle finger.. :) its just  a blocky pixxle - space invaders guy.05:49
makuserulol05:49
Dr_willisHes made of like 16x16 Pixles :)05:49
MinatakuI'll tell you what, I'd be afraid to buy a clock in Boston now05:49
MinatakuGet it out of the store and someone will scream "IT'S A BOMB"05:49
makuseruha05:49
WMCoolmonanyone? i'm getting "cvs [update aborted] : cannot get working directory: No such file or directory"05:49
MinatakuGod forbid I buy anything at a Radio Shack in Boston05:50
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Minatakulol05:50
makuserui dont wanna know what they put up for a Metalocalypse movie05:50
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Dr_willisthose signs are selling on Ebay for like $50005:51
MinatakuDr_willis: Negative05:51
Dr_willismakuseru,  barff bags?05:51
MinatakueBay is killing all those auctions05:51
Dr_willis:)05:51
makuseruha05:51
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Dr_willisMinataku,  bummer.. :) wonder why.05:51
Dr_willisEbay has no.. *$#*@&*@ any more it seems.05:51
MinatakuBecause eBay ??????? sucks05:51
makuserueBay had the inflatable s[pongebobs people stole from burgerking05:51
Dr_williswhat if you MADE your own..05:51
MinatakuWell, technically they are auctions selling stolen property05:52
Dr_willisbut ebay cant get rid of these 'what you are buying is the right to download the plans.. to make your own perpetual motionmachine...'05:52
Dr_willis:)05:52
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Dr_willisthey left them ... :) did they put a return address on them?05:52
Dr_willisabandonware!05:52
MinatakuDr_willis: Or the nigerian spammers hijacking accounts and tanking auctions when people don't fall for it05:52
makuseruor the people selling "a awesome guitar riff, sure to be a hit" only 5l05:53
makuseru5k*05:53
WMCoolmonDoes anyone know where I could ask how to get CVS working on NTFS-3G and get a helpful response? I've been searching Google and the Ubuntu forums, but haven't gotten anything besides false hits05:53
cpk2my network interface isnt listening to me =\05:53
MinatakuWMCoolmon: I'm assuming you want to checkout the latest NTFS-3G code?05:53
Dr_williscpk2,  sounds like my wife.05:53
Dr_willisslap it around some...05:53
Dr_willis:)05:53
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Minatakulol05:54
cpk2i've been trying that, it isnt even listening to its good friend /etc/network/interfaces05:54
cpk2how do you bring an interface down with ifconfig? ifdown says it isnt configured but ifconfig says it is05:55
WMCoolmonMinataku: i can certainly try that. Should i remove the NTFS-3G packages before compiling the latest version myself, and is there anything special i need to do to compile? (using an AMD64, if that's relevant)05:55
stdincpk2: example: sudo ifconfig eth0 down05:55
cpk2stdin: that doesnt work, what I was looking for was ifconfig del and i found it =)05:56
MinatakuWMCoolmon: First, self-compiling is highly discouraged, since it confuses the hell out of the package manager05:56
cpk2nevermind ifconfig eth1 del doesnt seem to work either argh05:56
MinatakuWMCoolmon: Second, yes and no respectively, then make sure you keep the first point in mind at all times05:57
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draikHello all06:01
draikI have an audio issue06:01
draikI can't hear mp3s that are online06:02
draikWhat do I need to hear mp3s in Mozilla's Firefox?06:02
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crimsundraik: meaning through youtube or something else using Flash?06:03
draikcrimsun: I mean through just a simple HTML that I have on my site and MySpace acct06:03
crimsundraik: are you using the backport of Flash 9 final from -backports?06:04
draikI had to redo my Kubuntu install and didn't get a chance to save my packages06:04
draikor my packages list06:04
draikYes I am06:04
cpk2hrmm i thought dhcpd was supposed to be easy...06:04
crimsundraik: while you're attempting to play mp3s from a Web site, lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*06:05
draikcrimsun: any ideas?06:05
makuseruanyone heard of/use IceWeasel?06:06
crimsunpastebin the output (see topic)06:06
stdinmakuseru: it's just firefox with a different name/logo06:06
makuserui know06:06
makuserui have it06:06
makuserui heard it was going to be a package in Feisty06:07
draikThat is what I get06:07
draikcrimsun: ^^06:07
MinatakuIt's Debian's retarded rebranding of Firefox06:07
makuserui know06:07
crimsundraik: please use pastebin06:07
makuserubecause FF wouldnt let them change the logo06:07
cpk2anyone want to help me with dhcpd?06:08
draik!pastebin06:08
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)06:08
draikcrimsun: http://pastebin.ca/33809406:09
stdinmakuseru: nope, it's not in feisty, at least not yet06:09
stdinmakuseru: don't think it will be, as it's just a re-branded firefox06:09
cpk2woohooo they talk to each other!06:10
crimsundraik: nothing appears to be attempting to play an mp3 in your Web browser06:11
crimsundraik: do you have libxine-extracodecs installed?06:11
draikYes06:11
makuseruanyone know when Herd3 is out?06:11
stdinmakuseru: it is out now06:12
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makuseruit is?06:12
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makuserui knew it was soon06:12
stdinyep06:12
makuserubut i didnt know if it was out yet or not06:12
crimsundraik: I need that lsof output when you're attempting to play an mp3 in your Web browser06:12
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theshadowHow do I updated to the latest version? (yea I'm new)06:12
theshadowupdate*06:12
draikI am trying06:12
draikerr... I am06:12
makuseruill probably upgrade at herd 406:12
stdinmakuseru: same way you go from dapper -> edgy06:13
makuserui know06:14
makuseruill probably do it the same way, change it in my sources.list06:14
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stdindraik: try changing "FIREFOX_DSP="none"" to "FIREFOX_DSP="auto"" or "FIREFOX_DSP="artsdap"" in /etc/firefox/firefoxrc06:15
theshadowhow do I upgrade from dapper drake to edgy?06:15
trojanekIn KDevelop, I'm trying to get rid of the "little x's" that show up when a line is wrapped. Does anyone know how to do this?06:15
stdin!upgrade | theshadow06:15
ubotutheshadow: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)06:15
makuserutheshadow: DL a ccd06:15
Minatakuarts needs to be destroyed... Why is there an idiotic abstraction in front of the audio device06:17
Minataku?06:17
stdinso more than one app can use the device at the same time06:17
MinatakuI have that ability without a retarded abstraction layer06:18
MinatakuNot to mention the fact that only one app should be using the audio device at any given time anyway06:19
crimsunMinataku: not everyone does.06:19
MinatakuEver accidentally play two songs at once? Sounds like crap. XD06:19
stdinMinataku: why should only 1 app be able to use the device at a time ?06:19
cpk2how about play a video game and listen to music?06:19
ForgeAushow many herds are there goina be?06:20
stdinor listening to music and getting audio notifications06:20
cpk2iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE should be the quick and dirty way of natting through a box right?06:20
makuseruor listning to two songs at once06:20
stdinForgeAus: 506:20
Minatakulol06:20
draikstdin: Nope. That didn't do anything06:20
MinatakuLike I said, I have NO abstraction, just an audio device06:20
stdindraik: did you restart firefox after ?06:20
ForgeAusok so I'll wait for the fawn after 5 :)06:21
draikYup06:21
draikstdin: Yup. After each change06:21
MinatakuAnd I can use multiple sound-causing apps at once providing one doesn't be a jerk and hog the device06:21
ForgeAus(after herd 5 I mean)06:21
stdinForgeAus: uh, actually it's 6, just checked :P06:21
draikstdin: If I go to the direct link of the mp3, I get an image of "No Video"06:21
MinatakuIn which case something like arts is useless anyway since the app isn't using arts06:21
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MinatakuIt's just more memory-eating rubbish if you ask me06:21
ForgeAusok then I'll wait for the herd after 5 and re-evaluate then06:22
stdinForgeAus: herd 6 will be out on April 5th, just 2 weeks before release06:22
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makuseruherd 6 = basically stable?06:22
Balsamic_Chickenwhat's herd6?06:22
Balsamic_Chickeno06:22
Balsamic_Chickenthat herd06:22
Balsamic_Chickendo they have a new look in desktop yet06:23
ForgeAusstablish?06:23
Balsamic_Chickencuz current once are ugly06:23
Balsamic_Chickenbeen ugly actually06:23
ForgeAusI like edgy desktop06:23
ForgeAusits a little plain but not ugly imho...06:23
makuseruwill Feisty have KDE4?06:24
crimsunMinataku: so what's muxing, your dsp or alsa-lib? :)06:24
Balsamic_Chickeni like standard kubuntu edgy desktop, ubuntu standard edgy desktop is brown like crap, saw lots of people complain in forums06:24
ForgeAusof course I've done some theming to tweak it but I still got same wallpaper, just themed the decorators mostly06:24
Balsamic_Chickenhence the ugly part =)06:24
stdinBalsamic_Chicken: herd 6 will be the 6th development release of feisty, it will be a beta06:24
Minatakucrimsun: Probably the entire ALSA subsystem06:24
ForgeAuslol I don't like the brown either06:24
Balsamic_Chickenstdin hi stdin =) long time no see06:24
WMCoolmonMinataku: Managed to get the problem fixed. I dug around a little more, and used the compile instructions for dapper on the Ubuntu forums (which build *.debs) to get everything. Works fine so far. Thanks. :)06:24
ForgeAusbut I do make my ubuntu-desktop brown, chocolate brown06:24
MinatakuWMCoolmon: np06:24
crimsunMinataku: erm, what?06:24
Balsamic_Chickenstdin: cool, does that mean new wallpaper? hehe06:24
stdinmakuseru: not likely, you should ask in #kubuntu-devel tho06:24
ForgeAus(the deeper one)06:25
stdinBalsamic_Chicken: heh, probably :P06:25
Balsamic_Chickennice =)06:25
ForgeAustheres a light brown defualt one06:25
Minatakucrimsun: To put it short... I don't know06:25
Minatakulol06:25
crimsunMinataku: cat /proc/asound/modules06:25
MinatakuSorry about that, I tend to complain about things that I think are stupid... never been one for abstraction layers... I have the belief that it's the kernel's job to handle hardware06:26
ForgeAusI hope the kde alternatives configuration gets some more options06:26
draikcrimsun: Didn't you get my pastebin?06:26
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draikcrimsun: http://pastebin.ca/33809406:26
Minatakucrimsun: No such file /proc/asound/modules06:26
crimsunMinataku: using a self-compiled kernel?06:27
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crimsundraik: I asked you for more information that I'm awaiting.06:27
Minatakucrimsun: I should inform you that I use Gentoo, not Kubuntu06:27
Minatakulol06:27
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Balsamic_Chickencrimsun: i was trying to watch prisonbreak on myspace.com/fox, i couldn't do it on kubuntu, reason is: even tho i told firefox to immitate/tell myspace that i'm on ie6 of xp2, fox myspace will only allow video to be played if i install another plugin player, one that ended in .exe, if there is some way, what is this way that can help me install the .exe into firefox, thx very much06:27
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MinatakuBalsamic_Chicken: Give up now06:27
ForgeAusGentoo + KDE?06:27
draikwhat other info?06:27
crimsunMinataku: uh, right. So, cat /proc/asound/cards06:27
MinatakuIt's DRM'd06:27
ForgeAusif you used Gentoo + Gnome I'd wonder why your in #Kubuntu at all lol!06:27
Balsamic_ChickenMinataku that's not nice =(, hehe06:27
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MinatakuBalsamic_Chicken: Sorry, but it's the only option06:28
Balsamic_Chickencrimsun that prolly didn't belong in this channel but i was asking just cuz u seemed to know alot more =)06:28
crimsunBalsamic_Chicken: huh? What's preventing you from using Flash 9?06:28
MinatakuThe content is protected, there's no way to view it in Linux short of using WINE06:28
Minataku                      ALI 5451 at 0xed00, irq 1106:28
Balsamic_Chickencrimsun hurmm, could u try watch it, i'll hand u the link, one sec06:28
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crimsunMinataku: alsa-lib (in userspace) is muxing.06:29
MinatakuAh06:29
markcanyone know where I configure this ? --> You may replace bluez's pin helper program with kbluepin; it is located in /opt/kde/lib/kdebluetooth now.06:29
Balsamic_Chickencrimsun: http://creative.myspace.com/VOD/prison_break/index.html06:29
Balsamic_Chickencrimsun: could u try watch that on firefox, thx06:29
crimsunBalsamic_Chicken: I'm on a ttys, so I can't watch that.06:29
Balsamic_Chickeno, what's a ttys, just for future reference06:30
crimsuna terminal connection06:30
Balsamic_Chickeno06:30
Balsamic_Chickencan anyone try watch it, thx =)06:30
MinatakuBalsamic_Chicken: Give up.06:30
Balsamic_ChickenMinataku u'll never be able to watch it if u do that06:30
snowrichardsays check back later for other os support06:30
MinatakuIt uses a proprietary video player with insane license terms06:30
MinatakuThe content is protected via DRM06:31
Balsamic_Chickensnowrichard i think u can tell firefox to immitate xp2, but u still have to install a player06:31
MinatakuThere is NO WAY TO VIEW THE CONTENT ON GNU/LINUX06:31
Balsamic_Chicken......06:31
Balsamic_Chickenso sad06:31
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Balsamic_Chickenbtw u forgot to press cap lock again06:31
MinatakuI don't use Caps Lock06:31
Balsamic_Chickenu forgot to let go of shift06:32
crimsunchill with the caps.06:32
Balsamic_Chickeno well thx everyone06:32
Balsamic_Chickenit's still good to know06:32
Balsamic_Chickenthat i can't watch it hehe06:32
MinatakuI hold down shift when I yell at people or give parts of text greater visibility06:32
MinatakuIn this case, it was the latter06:32
Balsamic_Chickenthat's my point, try not to do that =( meanie06:32
MinatakuBalsamic_Chicken: Sorry06:32
Balsamic_Chickeni was kidding =) i don't mind06:32
MinatakuBut I did tell you in the first place the same thing06:33
Minatakulol06:33
MinatakuYeah, FOX DRMs the crap on Myspace TV06:33
Balsamic_Chickenno it wasn't the same thing, if u lower capped and said there's no way to watch it, i wouldn't have kept on asking06:33
snowrichardmy isp blocks youtube says its sex06:33
Balsamic_Chickenat first u just said give up with no reason06:34
Minataku[00:25:20]  Minataku It's DRM'd06:34
draikcrimsun: What other information do you need from me?06:34
Balsamic_Chickenlets get techniqual (='.'=)06:34
Balsamic_Chicken!DRM06:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about DRM - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:34
Balsamic_Chickensee even ubotu don't know what ur talking about =)06:34
MinatakuThat was appx 13s after I told you to give up06:34
Minataku!DRM is Digital Restrictions Management; read about it at defectivebydesign.org06:35
Balsamic_Chickenabout .5s before ur last msg, don't think i need to retype06:35
crimsundraik: lsof output while you're attempting to play an mp3 in your Web browser06:35
draikI am trying to play an mp306:35
Balsamic_Chickensee now if u [21:35] 'd earlier, that would have at least prompted my questions in the right way06:35
Balsamic_Chickeneven u think DRM is too long to explain here06:35
MinatakuBalsamic_Chicken: Well, I apologize for using caps06:36
Balsamic_Chickenmuch direct answer woulda been: no way to watch it06:36
ForgeAuscan I somehow change the GTK icon theme from in KDE?06:36
Balsamic_Chickeni was kidding06:36
Balsamic_Chickensorry06:36
crimsundraik: so...pastebin.06:36
Balsamic_Chickeni'm just procrastinating from having to complete essay06:36
draikcrimsun: http://pastebin.ca/33809406:36
Balsamic_Chickenand i get to type fast so my partner thinks i'm franctically typing up essay06:36
Balsamic_Chickenanyways06:36
ForgeAusdoes GTK even have icon themes?06:36
ForgeAusblue is much better than brown anyway!06:37
ForgeAusit only really affect VMware and Firefox that I use06:37
ForgeAuslotsa other GTK apps but few that I actually use06:37
draikcrimsun:06:37
draikCOMMAND    PID  USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME06:37
draikartsd     4885 draik  mem    CHR  116,5      8261 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p06:38
draikartsd     4885 draik   12u   CHR  116,5      8261 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p06:38
draikkmix      4894 draik   11u   CHR  116,7      8275 /dev/snd/controlC006:38
draikamarokapp 6653 draik  mem    CHR  116,5      8261 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p06:38
draikamarokapp 6653 draik   14u   CHR  116,7      8275 /dev/snd/controlC006:38
draikamarokapp 6653 draik   18u   CHR  116,5      8261 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p06:38
draikwhoops06:38
draiksorry06:38
draikI could have sworn I just copy the link06:38
snowrichardpastebin :)06:38
draikhttp://pastebin.ca/33813106:38
draikSorry everyone06:39
draikI didn't mean to flood06:39
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Jucatotsk tsk06:39
draikcrimsun: http://pastebin.ca/33813106:39
ForgeAushmmm you call that a flood? lol06:39
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draikwell.. you know06:39
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draiklet me rephrase06:39
ForgeAusseems like an honest mistake anyhow06:39
smaggardlol06:39
makuserustop taking things form yourself Jucato06:39
Jucatohaha06:39
JucatoChanServ gave it to me when I didn't need it :P06:39
smaggardfloods are cool06:39
stdinhe was just stretching his op muscles06:40
draikSorry for not paying attention to what I was doing06:40
ForgeAusno they're not... not real oned06:40
ForgeAusgrr ones06:40
smaggardi love floods :D06:40
makuserui saw someone paste there xorg untill they got kicked for flooding06:40
smaggardbut i dont know how to do them06:40
crimsundraik: ls /tmp/*dmix*06:40
draikmakuseru: LOL, now THAT'S a flood06:40
makuseruvery06:40
ForgeAuslol Xorg! thats a little over the top I think06:40
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draikcrimsun: No such file or directory06:41
ForgeAusmandriva Metisse, now thats eyecandy!06:41
makuseruew06:41
makuseruBERYL06:41
smaggardive seen someone set their bot to keep posting system info06:41
makuseruis the awesome06:41
draikWhat is Beryl?06:41
makuserukubuntu was getting spammed by porn bots yesterday06:41
draik!beryl06:41
ForgeAus3d desktop06:41
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects06:41
smaggardberyl is eye candy06:41
ForgeAus(its how oyu get the desktop cube)06:41
makuseruberyl = besy eyecandy ever06:41
dawnpron bots06:41
Jucatodraik: beryl is a fork of compiz06:41
MinatakuIn XChat "/exec -o cat /dev/urandom" is a nice way to flood06:41
MinatakuReally screws with irssi users too06:42
Jucatoand a real good way to get banned :)06:42
smaggardbut beryl will screw with yourn graphics... well i shouldnt say that, its only cuz i have a crappy ati laptop that doesnt have a working linux driver.06:42
MinatakuIndeed06:42
Minatakulol06:42
makuserusmaggard: i have a radeon 700006:42
Jucatoyou'd know the feeling, wouldn't you Minataku? :P06:42
makuseruits SUPER SUPER old06:42
Minatakulol06:42
smaggardi have the xpress 200m06:42
crimsundraik: so either arts or amarok is configured to use hw:X,Y directly, which prevents playing multiple sounds simultaneously06:42
smaggardbroke driver since 8.28.806:42
makuserui cant even use fglrx06:43
draikcrimsun: fix?06:43
smaggardwow06:43
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smaggardthats like what 4 years old?06:43
makuseruwith my mighty 64mb of video ram06:43
makuseru1999-200006:43
smaggardwhoah06:43
smaggarddaaang06:43
smaggardlol06:43
makuserubetter than an intel 845G06:43
draikmakuseru: I have 256MB of video ram06:43
draikmakuseru: 4 GB of RAM06:44
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crimsundraik: change the amarok engine settings and the arts settings.06:44
smaggardi have 256 total, but 128 is sideport and the ati drivers in linux dont work with it06:44
draikand I still want more06:44
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draikcrimsun: How?06:44
smaggardthey used to.. but ati broke the driver, is gay, and wont fix it06:44
dawnati sux06:45
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makuseruit does06:45
makuserui want nvidia06:45
smaggardagreed06:45
dawni had a ATI card on 3 pc's06:45
makuserubut my comp is low on my "to buy" list06:45
draikI have the nVidia 5700LS... It's ok06:45
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dawnand every one had driver issues that would bSOD06:45
dawnLAME06:45
draikAnyone here know how to change the amarok engine settings and the arts settings?06:45
dawnBSOD over JAVA06:46
smaggardtoo bad amd and ati are teaming up06:46
makuseruits in amaroks settings06:46
smaggardi wold rather see amd nvidia06:46
Jucatodraik: Amark -> Settings -> COnfigure Amarok -> Engine06:46
JucatoAmarok*06:46
makuseruamd nvidia in compaq lappys06:46
dawnI have a dell dimension C521 w/ nvidia and AMD CPU06:46
dawn:)06:46
smaggardno i mean the merge06:46
dawnoh06:46
smaggardlike between companies06:46
makuseruim glad dell will ship comps without an os now06:46
dawni am going to rip the ATI card out of my machine at home06:47
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smaggardyeah06:47
draikJucato: All I have is xine06:47
draikno arts06:47
dawnreplace with a 8500 something06:47
Eruantalon!samba06:47
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT06:47
Jucatodraik: arts is not a multimedia engine06:47
dawn!koomba06:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about koomba - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:47
draikwhat is arts?06:47
dawn!komba06:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about komba - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:47
dawnwhats the other program?06:47
Jucatodraik: it's a sound server. you don't use arts for amarok06:47
draik!koopa06:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about koopa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:47
Jucato!botabuse06:47
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...06:47
dawnKDE Samba browser06:47
draikJucato: LOL, sorry06:47
makuseru!botsnack06:47
ubotuYum!06:47
dawnkomba206:47
dawn!komba206:47
ubotukomba2: KDE Samba browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.73.beta-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 173 kB, installed size 748 kB06:48
ForgeAusI'd need at least 2 cards to get the functionality of my ATI video card06:48
smaggard!karamba06:48
ubotusuperkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org06:48
dawnkaramba is nice06:48
smaggardoops06:48
smaggardlol06:48
dawnkinda like google widgets06:48
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dawnliquid weather06:48
smaggardkomba made me think about karamba06:48
draikJucato: So what engine do I need?06:48
Jucatodraik: KDE only uses aRts for system sound notifications06:48
EruantalonHow do i share directories with samba between to kubuntu boxes? No matter what i do i can't seem to be allowed to log in...?06:48
Jucatodraik: and currently, Amarok only uses Xine or can't use GStreamer06:48
cpk1Eruantalon: did you add a user for samba?06:49
draikok06:49
smaggardits easier to log into a linux box with user and pass than it is to setup windows to allow a linux box to log into it06:49
draikSo then what do I need to do?06:49
Jucatodraik: to do what?06:49
Eruantaloni add'ed every user i can think of to samba06:49
draikJucato: to play audio in firefox06:49
draikdraik: change the amarok engine settings and the arts settings06:49
draikJucato: ^^06:49
Jucatodraik: hm.. mozilla-mplayer ?06:49
dawnI still find it hard to believe that I have played HL and HL2 via wine tonight06:50
smaggardthats what i use06:50
dawnworked 95%06:50
Jucatoor one of the other mozilla plugins like vlc06:50
cpk1Eruantalon: you did sudo smbpasswd -L -a user and sudo smbpasswd -L -e thesameuser06:50
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dawnnuked... reminds me of Port 13906:51
dawn:P06:51
smaggardlol06:51
Nukeddawn: ?06:51
Eruantaloncpk1: Two things. Firstly i did not do that. I did via the kcontrol program. Secondly it seems to work now. I disabled encrypted passwords that did the trick.06:51
draikmozilla-mplayer and vlc are installed06:51
dawni remember nukin ppl in games06:51
dawn:P06:51
dawn<---evil06:51
smaggardremove vlc06:51
EruantalonBut that is not i workable solution....06:51
smaggardthen mplayer will work06:51
draikI'm installing kaffeine-mozilla right now06:52
dawnkaffeine plays .wmv great06:52
smaggardso does mplayer06:52
smaggard:D06:52
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Jucatoxine can only play those media with the proper codecs06:52
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cpk1Could use some help with simple iptables thing, trying to have my laptop access the internet through my desktop but iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE did not seem to do it and I have made sure /etc/network/options says ip_forward=yes any suggestions?06:52
EruantalonHow do I make kubuntu understand to use encrypted passwords with samba?06:52
Jucato(kaffeine and amarok uses xine so...)06:52
=== dawn dont need no stinkin codecs..
Jucatokaffeine can use mplayer too, though06:53
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draikYES!!!!!!!!!!06:53
Jucato!caps06:53
ubotuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.06:53
Jucato:P06:53
draikThank you smaggard06:53
morticistupid windows and its stupid file shareing that doesn't work properly06:53
draikI'm so happy06:53
smaggardnp06:53
draikNow... on to my next issue06:54
smaggardi just dropped and did 10 pushup06:54
smaggardfor no apparent reason06:54
draikI have the screensaver KCommeten (sp?)06:54
draikHow do I setup OpenGL?06:54
makuseruopen gl is in your graphics drivers06:54
smaggardxorg.conf06:54
Jucatodraik: it's all in the drivers06:54
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dawnUBOTU06:55
dawn!ubotu06:55
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots06:56
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smaggardbrb i need some food or something.06:56
dawn10 p/u thats all?06:56
EruantalonHow do I make kubuntu understand to use encrypted passwords with samba?06:56
smaggardhey guys im having this problem with encrypted passwords and samba.. any help?06:57
draikJucato: How do I know if I have the correct driver?06:57
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draikI have "nv" because "nvidia" is REALLY sluggish06:57
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smaggardok now im really checkin for food brb06:57
Jucatoum.. nvidia is sluggish? did you install the nvidia-glx driver?06:58
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draikJucato: Yes06:58
draiksmaggard: SAMMICH!06:58
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Eruantalonsmaggard: Me to06:58
morticiomg06:59
morticiits impossible to access files that are shared on vista through linux via samba06:59
morticiwtf06:59
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cpk1Eruantalon: try add users like i suggested? (just guessing though)06:59
moparisthebestgive it to me straight, what are the chances of getting my onboard 7.1 channel surround sound working on my 64 bit kubuntu install?07:00
Eruantaloncpk1: It is working now, as i said. But it took disabling encryption on the passwords. I am not happy with that07:00
smaggardi found nuts!!07:00
cpk1Eruantalon: yeah, so turn on encryption and add the samba user the other way (just guessing though)07:00
makuserumortici: ya, thats one of the problems07:00
smaggardPlanters dry roasted lightly salted mmmm :D07:01
cpk1moparisthebest: are you outputting the signal to a reciever?07:01
makuserulike Linus says, a computer is like an air conditioner, its useless when you open windows07:01
moparisthebestyes cpk107:01
smaggardlol07:01
morticimakuseru: sooooo sooooo true07:01
smaggardlinus said that?07:01
makuseruyes07:01
morticiand i was just getting some faith in vista .... and now this :/07:02
smaggardwow that guy was so cool07:02
cpk1moparisthebest: I would say pretty good, I am on 32 bit but I am passing a digital signal to my reciever and it was pretty painless07:02
makuseruwas?07:02
makuseruis cool07:02
MinatakuMmmm... Solaris 2.607:02
morticihell my freaking ipaq which has windows mobile 2003 on it wont access the share07:02
smaggardi cant believe he died that way..07:02
moparisthebestany suggestions on where to start cpk1 ?07:02
MinatakuI'd prefer "A computer is like a heater, it's useless when you open windows"07:02
smaggard7.1 should work on the 6407:02
MinatakuSince it's far more accurate XD07:02
smaggardheater... air.. same difference07:03
cpk1moparisthebest: open up kmix =P07:03
Eruantaloncpk1: Do you know how i can log out of the samba server so that i can check wether it worked?07:03
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cpk1Eruantalon: you could stop it07:03
makuserusmaggard: he isnt dead07:03
smaggardwho?07:03
makuseruLinus07:03
EruantalonI did that. Didn't work07:03
MinatakuA computer running Windows is a computer best left turned off07:03
smaggardhes not?07:03
cpk1moparisthebest: you have a iec958 playback in there?07:03
makuseruno07:04
smaggardsomeone told me he was07:04
makuseruno07:04
MinatakuLinus isn't dead07:04
smaggardHURRAY!!!07:04
moparisthebestyes cpk107:04
Minatakusmaggard: Been talking to Steve Ballmer?07:04
mohammedhow to update openoffice to version 2.1 ?07:04
makuserui just watched an interview with him talking about the new kernal07:04
cpk1Eruantalon: sudo /etc/init.d/samba (or smb maybe) stop07:04
makuseruMinataku: Ha!07:04
Eruantaloncpk1: didn't work07:04
Minatakusmaggard: I think you mean lilo07:04
MinatakuFormer head of Freenode07:04
draikJucato: any other ideas?07:05
smaggardFox News said he died.. i knew i shouldnt have trusted them their reporting is about as accurate and me saying windows is secure.07:05
MinatakuWho was also a cool guy07:05
cpk1moparisthebest: alright in output put the iec958 to the lowest volume (0 volume)07:05
smaggardBill gates was cool!!07:05
makuseruBill IS cool07:05
moparisthebestok cpk107:05
makuserufor all the money he gives07:05
MinatakuBill is nothing but marketing07:05
makuserufor charity07:05
smaggardto thoe hookers..07:05
smaggardthose*07:05
cpk1moparisthebest: is best then in input do the same thing (you can leave it on record though)07:05
draikActually, Bill Gates is a nice guy outside of work. When it's business related, he can be a real prick.07:05
MinatakuHe doesn't even have power in Microsoft anymore07:05
makuseruhe as a person, ok as a business man no07:06
cpk1moparisthebest: ignore the is best I was thinking out loud when thinking your name07:06
smaggardyeah he is usually a prick to me but o wel07:06
smaggardi got super glue on my hands ack!07:06
MinatakuKnow your enemy07:06
morticiSHARE DAMN IT SHARE YOUR STUPID FILES .... stupid windows07:06
moparisthebestok cpk1 I have that done, still no sound coming out of any speakers besides the fronts07:06
draikmoparisthebest: Hey... What is that website that crashes windows computer?07:06
MinatakuBill Gates is just a marketing tool nowadays07:06
cpk1moparisthebest: then in switches change the iec958 playback source to ac link07:06
MinatakuIt's Steve Ballmer that's the evil07:07
MinatakuIn fact, I read somewhere that Bill Gates thinks DRM is completely retarded07:07
Minatakulol07:07
cpk1moparisthebest: what are you using to play the sound with?07:07
moparisthebestdraik, http://www.moparisthebest.com/no.html07:07
smaggardmy backgrond is a bathroom with a windows xp pro box in the toilet07:07
makuserunot only did i read that07:07
makuserui saw the interview07:07
smaggardand on the sink is a bottle with tux on it representing soap :D07:07
draikThank you moparisthebest, I have a few people at work that NEED that link'07:07
moparisthebest:)07:07
makuseruEMI Records no longer uses DRM07:08
moparisthebestit only works for old firefoxes and IE07:08
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moparisthebest<cpk1> moparisthebest: then in switches change the iec958 playback source to ac link07:08
moparisthebestmy only options are PCM07:08
moparisthebestanalog in07:08
moparisthebestand07:08
moparisthebestIEC958 in07:08
MinatakuThere's another site I heard of07:08
Minatakugoodbye-microsoft.com07:08
cpk1moparisthebest: hrmm ok PCM07:09
makuseruo.O Linus Torvalds wife if a 6 time karate champion07:09
moparisthebestI am using amarok right now cpk107:09
MinatakuAaaaugh! PNG bomb!07:09
MinatakuXD07:09
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mortici......07:09
cpk1moparisthebest: ok you are going to want to change the speaker setup in amarok to passthrough07:09
draikMinataku: Huh? What is a PNG bomb?07:10
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Minatakudraik: http://www.moparisthebest.com/no.html << The incredibly large PNG located here is a PNG bomb07:10
MinatakuNote the dimensions07:10
smaggardlol07:10
smaggardwill it kill linux firefox?07:10
MinatakuA staggering 10M x 10M pixels07:10
moparisthebestthe png isnt that large actually07:10
Minatakusmaggard: No07:10
makuserubomb? you mean Mooninite07:10
moparisthebestbut the html says it is ;)07:10
smaggardwindows ie/firefox?07:10
moparisthebestit killed firefox 1.0 in windows07:11
moparisthebestidk about linux07:11
MinatakuIt made my Firefox kinda puke07:11
smaggardwell lets start the insanity07:11
MinatakuIt was reeeeeeealy slow after that07:11
moparisthebestyea, it lags a little sometimes07:11
cpk1konquerer didnt have a problem07:11
MinatakuAnd this is Firefox Linux/i686 2.0.0.207:11
smaggardmine loaded right up07:11
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smaggarddidnt hickup a bit07:11
markcis anyone using a bluetooth headset ?07:11
cpk1moparisthebest: still no luck?07:12
smaggardall i saw was like purple07:12
moparisthebestI cant find a 'passthrough' option in amarok cpk107:12
smaggardamarok is like 1000x better than winamp07:12
MinatakuOh, dear... now that's something07:12
moparisthebestI changed it to 7.1 surround sound, but nothing happened07:12
draikmarkc: Phone or desktop?07:12
MinatakuMy SPARCstation 10 has gone apecrap07:12
cpk1moparisthebest: configure amarok, go to the engines tab then in speaker arrangement07:12
cpk1moparisthebest: its not there?07:12
MinatakuNot even L1-A can stop the insanity07:12
markcdraik, desktop, for skye mainly07:12
markcskype07:13
MinatakuOr Stop-A rather, as it is on a Type 507:13
Minataku:307:13
moparisthebestah ok cpk1 I found passthrough, still no sound though07:13
draikNot here on my computer, but I did at my friend's computer07:13
markcdraik, do you remember what packages you needed ?07:13
Nukedus deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest edgy main  safe?07:13
Nuked*is07:13
draikmarkc: No, sorry07:13
markcdraik, k, np07:14
cpk1blah i will have to dreg up some aplay commands moparisthebest also check alsamixer turn your pcm up and make sure iec958 is unmuted07:14
cpk1but at 0 volume07:14
MinatakuIt stopped! Yay!07:14
Minatakulol07:14
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Minataku"SCSI bus MESSAGE OUT phase parity error"07:15
stdinNuked: depends what you mean by safe07:15
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mohammedhey guys, how to update openoffice to version 2.1 ?07:15
Minataku"Target 1 didn't disconnect after sending DISCONNECT"07:15
MinatakuNow that's a show07:15
MinatakuXD07:15
Nukedstdin: is it stable07:15
stdinmohammed: wait a few months and install feisty07:15
cpk1moparisthebest: alright pastebin aplay -l07:16
mohammedlol! isn't there a proper methode to do so before feisty ?07:16
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moparisthebestcpk1, http://rafb.net/p/8KqtVG10.html07:17
stdinNuked: the latest kde is 3.5.6, which is quite stable, but it's still being tested on edgy/feisty. but it's not particularly unstable so it's quite safe07:17
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cpk1moparisthebest: how about aplay -L?07:18
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ContrilWhat the Hell.  :S07:18
stdinmohammed: not unless it's in -backports07:18
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sinthetekany idea why a wireless usb adapter would work from livecd but not from the system itself?07:18
draik!source07:18
ubotuYou can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html07:18
sinthetekonce installed*07:18
draik!source-o-matic07:19
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic07:19
moparisthebestcpk1, http://rafb.net/p/rGB38w88.html07:19
cpk1moparisthebest: you have a wav file you can use?07:19
smaggardcrap07:19
moparisthebestyep, let me find it07:20
smaggardin amarok i add media from a network share, click play and it dies07:20
cpk1moparisthebest: try aplay -D hw:0,4 -c 7 song.wav07:22
moparisthebestok07:22
smaggardno fair07:22
cpk1moparisthebest: anything?07:22
moparisthebestoh, nvm07:23
moparisthebestI have midi files07:23
moparisthebestbut no wav files07:23
NukedI shall return07:23
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poningru_intoxicnoooooooooooooooooooo07:24
smaggardhow come only root can mount07:24
smaggardi wanna mount a network folder of music to a folder in my /home07:25
smaggardand it says only root can do that07:25
smaggardand if i do it as root then im sure my user wont be able to read it and i wont be able to change that07:25
cpk1moparisthebest: ok well turn the volume down and do it on any old file and see if you hear a terrible noise =P (or find a wav that is lurking somewhere)07:25
stdinsmaggard: because only root can, use use sudo and add "-o uid=UserName" to the end of the command07:25
smaggardmmk07:26
stdinsmaggard: (where UserName is your username :P )07:26
cpk1moparisthebest: try /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav07:26
smaggardhaha thx07:26
moparisthebestcpk1,07:27
moparisthebestmopar@killer-linux:~$ aplay -D hw:0,4 -c 7 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav07:27
moparisthebestPlaying WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 48000 Hz, Mono07:27
moparisthebestaplay: set_params:906: Channels count non available07:27
stdinsmaggard: no problem :-)07:27
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cpk1moparisthebest: ok well you getting sound from that?07:28
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moparisthebestno sound at all cpk107:28
the_hammerhi all someone gave me a few keys for getting the kde 3.5.6 and since then ive gotten need public key errors 6 to be exact07:29
mike_im trying to install easyubuntu is there a packagelist for fiesty?07:29
the_hammerwondering if i can get the keys somehow07:29
the_hammeri tried the source o matic and i was in worse shape then what istared with07:30
stdinthe_hammer: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php <- read this07:31
cpk1moparisthebest: odd aplay isnt doing it for me either, and the sound is because its not playing =P07:32
moparisthebestwierd07:32
|Daisuke_Ido|why do people insist on things like easyubuntu and automatix?07:35
sinthetekif all of the drivers are loaded properly on livecd, shouldn't they also be on the system after install?07:36
|Daisuke_Ido|they make things worse more often than they make things better.07:36
verzonnen|Daisuke_Ido|: surely you know the answers07:36
the_hammeri saved a file from there what do i do with it?07:36
the_hammerkubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg07:36
|Daisuke_Ido|verzonnen: they want ease of use, i suppose.07:36
morticii don't understand this, xp file sharing works like a charm i can access it no problem, vista same settings, and it INSISTS on asking for a username/password ...... gah07:37
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stdinthe_hammer: like the page says "sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg07:37
verzonnenanyway it's sleep time07:37
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cpk1moparisthebest: alright lets try mpg123-alsa (you might need to install it)07:38
theshadowwould anyone know why the ati driver doesn't let me set the resolution above 1024x768?07:39
metresHi all do anyone know how to stop kbluetooth starting on startup ?07:39
moparisthebestI cant find it on apt-get cpk1 , google it?07:39
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cpk1!mpg123-alsa07:49
ubotumpg123-alsa: MPEG layer 1/2/3 audio player with ALSA support. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.60-3 (edgy), package size 130 kB, installed size 328 kB (Only available for i386 alpha powerpc m68k arm sparc hppa)07:49
cpk1!mpg12307:49
ubotumpg123: MPEG layer 1/2/3 audio player. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.60-3 (edgy), package size 129 kB, installed size 324 kB (Only available for i386 alpha powerpc m68k arm sparc hppa)07:49
cpk1moparisthebest: sorry for long response, its there in multiverse =)07:49
moparisthebestI have multiverse enabled, but I have found that alot of programs that are there in 32 bit kubuntu, arent there in 64 bit kubuntu :/07:50
moparisthebesti do have mpg12307:51
moparisthebestbut not -alsa07:51
moparisthebestmpg321 I mean07:52
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cpk1alright try with mpg123 and see if you get sound07:53
cpk1just mpg123 song.mp307:53
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moparisthebestI have sound, but just from the front speakers cpk107:55
cpk1moparisthebest: hrmm and you checked your alsamixer levels?07:56
moparisthebestPCM is supposed to be all the way up?07:57
cpk1is amarok in the 64bit env or 32bit env?07:57
cpk1yes07:57
moparisthebestwhat are the other levels supposed to be?07:57
moparisthebestamarok is 64 bit07:57
cpk1moparisthebest: how many iec958 devices do you have in alsamixer?07:58
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moparisthebest207:58
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moparisthebestactually 3 cpk107:58
cpk1iec958 and iec958 p?07:58
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moparisthebest2 iec958 p's07:59
cpk1iec958 and 2 iec958 p's?07:59
moparisthebestone just says PCM above it07:59
moparisthebestyep07:59
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moparisthebestwhat levels are those supposed to be at?07:59
cpk1ok moparisthebestok so the plain iec958 shouldnt have a volume bar right? make sure that one is unmuted (mm means muted) pressing m mutes/unmutes08:00
cpk1and do both the iec958 p's have volume bars?08:00
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moparisthebestit was muted, I unmuted it, still no sound08:01
moparisthebestone of the p's just says PCM above it08:02
moparisthebestwhere is the other one's bar supposed to be?08:02
cpk1see if you can change the one that says pcm to something else08:02
dewittshow do i log in as sudo08:03
dewittsi mean perm08:03
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dewittsso i don't have to type it in every time?08:03
moparisthebestI can change it to analog in or ie958 in cpk108:03
moparisthebestdewitts,08:03
moparisthebestsudo -i08:03
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cpk1moparisthebest: hrmm ok i guess keep it as pcm08:03
dewittsi got to get a book on this stuff, or study the commands i get tired of coming here all the time, and asking questions08:04
moparisthebestis any of the other things supposed to be muted cpk1 ?08:04
cpk1moparisthebest: the other iec958 p should be set to 0 volume but unmuted08:04
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cpk1moparisthebest: you can try changing the pcm to iec958 in too just to see if it does anything08:04
moparisthebestalready tried it, no effect08:05
moparisthebestis surround supposed to be muted?08:05
cpk1mines unmuted08:05
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cpk1when i was reading up on mine I noticed alot of people seemed to have really picky systems setting wise for some reason08:06
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moparisthebestcpk1, what is the surround mode? shared or independant?08:07
cpk1moparisthebest: shared, but if you are using digital coaxial i dont think that should matter08:07
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moparisthebestah ok08:07
[abhishek] m08:07
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cpk1moparisthebest: lets make a wav of one of your mp3s use mpg123, the command i think will be mpg123 song.mpg -w newsong.wav08:14
cpk1song.mp3*08:15
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moparisthebestok done08:16
cpk1moparisthebest: ok now try aplay -D hw:0,4 mywav.wav08:17
moparisthebestmopar@killer-linux:~/ext3store$ aplay -D hw:0,4 1949.wav08:18
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moparisthebestPlaying WAVE '1949.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo08:18
moparisthebestWarning: rate is not accurate (requested = 44100Hz, got = 48000Hz)08:18
moparisthebest         please, try the plug plugin08:18
moparisthebestno sound though cpk108:18
cpk1no sound at all?08:19
moparisthebestno sound at all08:19
cpk1are you sure it is actually outputting after that error?08:19
moparisthebestI have to end it manually, but Im not sure what it is trying to do08:19
cpk1then it probably is trying to play it08:20
cpk1hrmm08:20
jacksoncan anyone advise how i can terminate a program because it's not responding from right clicking  on menu..thx08:20
cpk1jackson: open a konsole then do "ps aux" look for the name of the program and its numbers on the far left, then do kill thosenumbers08:21
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cpk1moparisthebest: how many digital playbacks does cat /proc/asound/devices give you?08:22
theshadowwould anyone know when I run aticonfig --resolution=1280x1024 i get Error: Section # expected.08:23
moparisthebestcpk1, 2-908:23
jacksoncpk1: i am trying to close xmms n xmmplayer but cant see that from the list?08:23
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cpk1jackson: every running process will show up in "ps aux"08:24
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cpk1moparisthebest: 4: [ 0- 0] : digital audio playback that is the line with my digital out the 0- 0 is the x y for hw: test every one that says it is digital audio playback for me it would be aplay -D hw:0,008:25
jacksonok found it...thank you cpk108:25
Balsamic_Chicken!pastebin08:25
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)08:25
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cpk1jackson: so kill thenumberonfarleft (the number right to the right of your user name) should close it08:26
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moparisthebestcpk1, aplay -D hw:0,0 1949.wav gives me sound, but only out of the front 208:31
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cpk1moparisthebest: none of the others do?08:32
cpk1moparisthebest: ok now try aplay -D hw:0,0 -c 7 1949.wav08:32
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kyle_Peoples!08:33
kyle_What's goin' on?08:33
moparisthebestsame 2 speakers cpk108:33
kyle_Yeah, so...anyway.08:34
kyle_Like I was saying...08:34
kyle_All hail the great..08:34
kyle_Not me...08:34
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kyle_Pointy?08:34
kyle_Nighty night! ;)\08:34
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pointy?08:35
kyle_What?08:35
pointywhat what?08:35
kyle_Can you help me with something?08:35
kyle_Avid Ubuntu user?08:35
pointymaybe08:35
cpk1moparisthebest: does the reciever say its recieving a dts signal?08:35
kyle_Well...08:35
pointyI am a mere user too08:35
kyle_Dam08:35
cpk1when you play the wav08:35
kyle_I need to install Beryl, and have it work.08:35
moparisthebestthere are no lights or anything cpk108:35
kyle_I don't know how!08:35
pointyahh...08:36
pointyI haven't tried beryl08:36
kyle_It's supposed to be cool.08:36
pointydoes it work with kde yet?08:36
pointyyeah, supercool08:36
kyle_Beats me.08:36
kyle_Well, I can't get it to work at all.08:36
pointy:(08:36
kyle_Gnome, Kde, Xfce..08:36
kyle_You name it.08:36
kyle_It doesn't work.08:36
pointystrange08:36
kyle_Uber08:36
pointywhat videocard?08:36
kyle_On my laptop...08:37
cpk1moparisthebest: =( I am running low on thoughts, try setting xine to use passthrough as well08:37
kyle_Intel 915/GML08:37
pointythat might be the issue08:37
kyle_I hope it is not.08:37
Ace2016kyle_: Look here: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu08:37
kyle_I need to spice up my desktop.08:37
kyle_But it no worky.08:37
pointynot sure whether your card is fast enough for beryl08:37
kyle_Thanks, Ace.08:37
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kyle_I need something "shiny" on my desktop to pwn all them windows users.08:38
moparisthebestok cpk1 thanks for all the help, I have to get some sleep though :)08:38
moparisthebestIll google around tommorow and see what I can come up with :P08:38
Ace2016i like the preview minimised windows in beryl, its live vista08:39
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cpk1moparisthebest: well theoritically as soon as you find the digital out device it should be as easy as telling your media players to use that device08:39
dewittshey is there any one in here thats relaly good with openoffice?08:39
kyle_Yeah, but Beryl won't work in the first place.08:39
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kyle_I am pretty good...08:40
kyle_What do ya need?08:40
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dewittsI have like 900 rows, that contain links in them, but I want to make them all clickable really quick, instead of doing down through every single one, and manuall doing it? Cuase I'm saving this to a .html file.08:40
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pointykyle_: have you tried following that guide - seems pretty straight forward08:40
kyle_Try a CTRL+A and right click. I think there was a "Format as link" option. Or click the formatting bar, and link.08:41
kyle_Something like that.08:41
kyle_I am working on it. Pointy.08:41
dewittskyle_: u talking to me?08:41
kyle_Yes. I was.08:42
dewittsI don't see format as link option08:42
dewittsi do have that on the bar though hold on08:42
dewittshmm08:43
dewittslol don't have that either08:43
sparrhow can i run different java apps with different JVMs?08:45
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pointykyle_: from what I've googled around, it should work with your vid card08:45
kyle_:D08:45
kyle_That's awesome.08:45
kyle_Kinda.08:46
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kyle_Well, if it worked it would be.08:46
kyle_Still workin on installin it.08:46
kyle_Sorry Dewitts.08:46
kyle_I don't know what to say.08:46
Ace2016dewitts: do the links all point to the same place? if so i have an idea08:46
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dewittsyes08:47
dewittsace201608:47
dewittsI can send you the file, and show itt o you relaly quick08:47
dewittsits just important i get this done08:48
dewittsreally important08:48
dewittsI know there has to be some way of doing it though08:48
dewittsinstead of going through there, and clicking on each one manuall, I mean the links are already there08:48
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Ace2016dewitts: edit one of the links to be what you want it to be, then leave the rest the same, save it as an html file, then open it in something like kwrite or kate and to edit > replace and then replace an already exsisting part with the part being replaced and the new bit, so replace <bla> with <bla><html for a the link> so that it looks like the one you changed08:49
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morphius_in iptables: is it possible to forward a port to all addresses on a subnet (rather than select an ip address at random as is done with the -to-destination start-range end-range switch)?08:49
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dewittsk08:51
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dewittsace2016: what was you saying, I would still have to manually do all that?08:52
dewittsain't there a way to just have them all as hyperlinks?08:52
pointydo the feisty desktop iso cd's (the milestone cd's) work as liveCD's too?08:52
francis_bonjour a tous08:54
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Ace2016find and replace and then replace all, that'd do it08:54
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Ace2016can i see the file? could you upload it to somewhere?08:55
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dewittsyea hold on08:58
dewittsuploading it now08:58
dewittsapperciate you helping08:58
dewittscuase i can't figure this out and its important i get it done08:58
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dewittsAce2016: you there09:02
dewittsAce2016: http://www.indianawebsitedesign.net/text.csv09:02
Ace2016yup09:02
dewittsi just uplaoded it to my server09:02
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Ace2016So what are you trying to do with all the links?09:03
dewittsmake them clickable09:04
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dewittsi need to save it to a .html file09:04
morticican i add a fiesty version of a repo so i can get the latest samba?09:04
dewittshyperlinks09:04
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dewittsbut as of right now09:04
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dewittsthere not, there just text, but I'm trying to make all them hyperlinks, so I can open them up in firefox, or there clickable in firefox anyways, I have 1000's of them09:05
dewittsany idea?09:06
stdinmortici: that is not reccommended and could make your system unusable09:06
Ace2016not really, but i'll give it a go09:06
morticistdin09:07
morticii just need the latest samba, thats all09:07
morticiafter that id get rid of the repo09:08
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dewittsace2016: i know theres got to be a way to do it lol09:09
stdinmortici: the latest samba depends on things that aren't in edgy, so they will be installed, and there is a change in the default python version, so that will have to install python and all those dependencies. It really could mess your system up. But if you want to take the risk you can do it09:09
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morticidamn it09:10
morticinvm09:10
morticii just read an article09:10
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morticithat basically says that you cant access vista shares from linux, not untill the samba devs re work the code :/ sad part is OSX and other versions of windows work just fine :/09:11
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mike__how do i mount ntfs with read/write enabled?09:17
stdin!ntfs-3g | mike__09:17
ubotumike__: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)09:17
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mike__stdin: still in beta?09:18
stdinyeah, but it's that or read-only09:18
mike__stdin: ok thanx09:19
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stdinnp09:19
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Ace2016dewitts: I did it09:23
Ace2016dewitts: u there?09:24
Ace2016well here is how i did it09:24
Ace2016i saved a backup of the file09:24
Ace2016opened it up in kwrite09:24
Ace2016press Ctrl + R09:25
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dbglthi everyone... I have a line in my /etc/fstab for a drive I would like mounted on startup... but it doesn't mount it, I have to manually type mount09:25
dbgltis there anything else I need to do to have it mount at boot time?09:25
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Ace2016Text to find: "^..,"    (without the "") and tick regular expression and in the replacement text box just put a single space09:26
blsbonjour09:26
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blsca va bien  ?09:26
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Ace2016dewitts: then in the options remove from cursor and prompt on replace09:27
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kyle_Blarg09:27
caris_mereI am trying to backup my home folder, but keep always gives me an error09:27
Ace2016dewitts: Then press replace09:27
tanlaananyone know of an editor for the KDE GUI?09:27
Ace2016dewitts: It'll replace all the random numbers09:27
Ace2016dewitts: the random numbers at the start,09:28
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tanlaanLike how they have editors for the windows GUI so you can COMPLETLY change how it looks, making it even as simple as a blue background with a labeled internet shortcut/button09:28
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Ace2016dewitts: now press ctrl+r again, find text: ("free",")   everything in the brackets including the "" and replacement text should be: (<a href=")09:30
Ace2016dewitts: then press replace09:30
Ace2016dewitts: now press Ctrl+r and put for the find text: (",4) then as the replacement text: (">Free</a>)  Then press replace09:31
Ace2016dewitts: then stick in all the normal html stuff and your done09:31
caris_mereanybody using a backup program? I need some help09:31
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Ace2016dewitts: here is the finished file: http://www.speedyshare.com/931850394.html09:34
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surgyyuriy: are you around?09:46
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nodesertis there anyone who knows how to open a shell with eclipse09:47
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boss_78Hello09:53
boss_78I have a question about Feisty Faw09:53
surgyhi09:53
Ace2016hi09:53
surgy!ask09:53
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)09:53
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boss_78Will the acceleration 3D of my driver s3 Savage4 be supported?09:55
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boss_78?09:56
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stdinboss_78: for questions about Feisty, you should go to #ubuntu+109:57
mohammedcan i use kopete to access @live accounts ?09:57
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boss_78Ok thank you09:57
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blue|palmWhat can i do if knetworkmanager does not find any wireless networks, but wireless lan assitant does?10:03
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blue|palmWhat can i do if knetworkmanager does not find any wireless networks, but wireless lan assitant does?10:13
seven11how can i boot kubuntu in verbosse mode10:14
seven11how can i disable the boot splash10:16
abattoirseven11: remove 'quiet' from the 'kernel' option in the appropriate entry of your menu.lst file10:17
abattoirseven11: 'splash' too, if you don't want the boot splash10:17
seven11menu.lst where10:17
abattoirseven11: /boot/grub/menu.lst10:18
seven11thanks10:18
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renatoHi all, do yo know is there is a 32 bit odbc package for ubuntu amd64?10:19
cpk1how would I set it up so my iptables rules get remembered? /sbin/iptables-restore /etc/network/iptables.rules in /etc/rc.local doesnt seem to be doing it10:19
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Linux_Galoreone question, is there a seperate repo for perl packages, I seem to be missing allot of modules10:21
shad-99Hi all, Could some one teach me how to install vlc to my kubuntu? i am a newbie on this linux10:22
Linux_GaloreDateTime/Format/DateManip.pm  cant be found,hmm10:22
Linux_Galoreshad-99: lots of luck wioth that question i had to do a 2 hour class for that one10:22
shad-99hahah ok thanks10:23
nodesertshad-99 did you try "sudo aptitude install vlc"10:23
shad-99i thought this linux was a piece of cake to install stuffs like windows.. but it sucks when it comes to that?10:23
Linux_Galoreshad-99: no very easy to install, just fiddly to setup10:24
Linux_Galoreshad-99: just use adept10:24
Linux_Galoreto install vlc10:24
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shad-99yes i have tried that but i can't find vlc in ther anywhere?10:25
Linux_Galoreshad-99: it means you dont have all the repo's setup10:25
NightBirdis there a way to tell kubuntu to ignore certain packages for being removed?  like I use the freeglut library development stuff, but nothing else depends on it, so it always adds it to the list to be removed on auto clean..10:25
Linux_Galoreshad-99: adedpt can only see whats on the package servers that you have setup10:25
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shad-99no i haven't tried that sudo aptitude install vlc yet? .. don't know much about commands in linux.. im a fraid? :S10:27
abattoir!info vlc10:27
ubotuvlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB10:27
abattoir!repos > shad-9910:27
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shad-99damn it's hard to learn.. lol10:27
abattoirshad-99: follow that guide10:27
Linux_GaloreNightBird: aptitude hold package_name10:27
abattoirshad-99: it's just different, compared to windows, yes, there are things to learn, but it's not that hard :)10:28
seven11abattoir: worked thanks10:28
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abattoirseven11: great :)10:28
harmentalhey guys....how can i associate tex file to kile?10:29
abattoirshad-99: after you're done enabling the universe/multiverse repos(after reading that guide), you'll have most software you need installable from one place, Adept10:29
abattoirincluding vlc10:29
Linux_GaloreNightBird: or if you use apt       echo pkgname hold | dpkg --set-selections10:29
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ydbbonjour10:30
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Linux_Galoreharmental: open konqueror   Settings -> Configure Konqueror , then  look for file associations, then enter tex  in the search box top right10:31
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harmentalLinux_Galore: thx!10:31
Linux_Galoreharmental: have to set kile as the default app for that file type10:31
jacksonwould this line only suit gnome?...sudo cp /etc/gtk/gtkrc.zh_TW /etc/gtk/gtkrc.zh_TW.utf-8? thanx10:32
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DarkWizdomhi guys! can anyone tell me how do I add a cd rom to sources.list?10:32
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premier_hey, k3b wont work for me unless I sudo it.  Is that normal and can I fix that?10:34
Linux_GaloreDarkWizdom: sudo apt-cdrom add10:34
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Linux_Galorepremier_: run   sudo k3b-setup   and add you default user to the user list10:34
Linux_Galoreyour*10:35
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DarkWizdomthanks! :)10:35
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Linux_Galorepremier_: basically you havent given a set user permission to use k3b10:37
laosboymeHow to intsall amsn CVS subversion?10:37
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laosboymesomebody?10:37
blue|palmWhat can i do if knetworkmanager does not find any wireless networks, but wireless lan assitant does?10:38
Linux_Galorelaosboyme: cvs variants are usually buggy and if you asking that question you shouldnt be trying to install it10:38
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renatoHi all, do yo know is there is a 32 bit odbc package for ubuntu amd64?10:40
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jacksonanyone here know about making chinese readable on multimedia player? a long shot i know but thanx10:41
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abattoirjackson: which multimedia player?10:44
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jacksonxmms / amarok / juk ..just one of them can read chinese on its playlist would be very helpful...i tried xmms n it would show for only 1sec then back to unreadable symbols?...thanx abottoir10:46
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abattoirjackson: i think it depends on the encoding that you are using...10:47
jacksonabottoir: i did this line in console..sudo cp /etc/gtk/gtkrc.zh_TW /etc/gtk/gtkrc.zh_TW.utf-810:47
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jacksonor is that not applicable in kubuntu as it was a ubuntu forum i copied?10:48
abattoirjackson: it should work w/ gtk applications(xmms etc.), not qt applications like amarok/juk10:48
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jacksonencoding i m using...? can u explain further?10:49
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fdovingJucato: hi, i'm around now. you called my name?10:50
dettoaltrimenti_if I want every file of a certain type to open VLC media player, but I want it to open in the terminal with the arguements '-I skins2' how do I do that?10:50
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jacksonabattoir: would it help if i changed the system lang. to chinese?10:51
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abattoirjackson: run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales'10:52
abattoirjackson: and select the UTF version of your current local10:53
abattoiren_US.UTF-8 for example10:53
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blsbonjour y a des francais ici ?10:56
premier_I have k3b installed but "sudo k3b-setup" returns a command not found error10:56
premier_!fr > bls10:56
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premier_that doesnt work anymore?10:57
premier_!fr10:57
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.10:57
premier_there we go!10:57
jackson what command should i select the UTF version of my current local once i typed "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales"10:57
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fedeHello.11:10
fedeGot a problem with Synaptic and Sun Java 511:11
fedeAt 5% a GUI interface oepens and cannot click11:11
fedeon the "acept"11:11
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fedeso the installation does not preceed11:11
fedeand it locks everything11:11
fedeAny ideas?11:12
fedeThey would be appreciated.11:12
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jordo23!version11:16
ubotuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell11:16
jibowenhello who can help me about upnp11:18
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jibowenhello who can help me about upnp11:19
mosheahi all .... what's a good vnc server to use under KDE ?11:19
mosheakrfb/kdrc are non-starters for me .... too slow over the inernet11:20
NightBirdok, I'm trying to compile a program that includes from a file "GL/glxtokens.h"... what package do I need to install for me to be able to compile it?11:20
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NightBirdsadly enough, it didn't detect it as an unmet dependency, so I don't know waht to do...11:21
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mosheawhat's a good vnc server to use under KDE ?11:24
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barohallo11:26
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crazy_busI wan't the view the video here http://www.celtx.com/walkthru/feature_over.html .  But it won't play without the recent flash version.  Is the only way to view it to install propietry software?  Or is there someway to download it and the convert it to ogg?11:27
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pi1lhello! who can show me xorg.conf, configured for dual monitors, please?11:28
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shad-99Vlc package is not in synaptic list anywhere.. How can i get the packages to install it?11:29
abattoirshad-99: you didn't listen to me, did you?11:29
shad-99i don't understand a shit about linux.. ;( i don't understand what repositories is either?... get it?11:30
shad-99it's fucking hard this ;(11:30
abattoir!repositories | shad-9911:30
ubotushad-99: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu11:30
abattoir!language | shad-9911:30
ubotushad-99: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.11:30
shad-99ok sorry guy's! :(11:31
abattoirshad-99: be patient and read, if you don't understand anything, ask, i'll be glad to help11:31
emavHi there! I'm using firefox under kubuntu. I've noticed that I cannot enter special characters (e.g. polytonic Greek) in textboxes. Has anybody else had the same problem?11:31
shad-99thanks m8.. im a little bit frustrating here..  :S11:31
abattoirshad-99: it's ok, i understand :)11:31
abattoirshad-99: it's simple, read the guide, and enable the universe and multiverse repositories, once you are done, search for vlc and install... i thought you'd have finished all that by now11:32
shad-99it is to much to get into my brain.. i have been into windows enviroment for 22 years.. but this i tuff business? :S11:32
abattoirshad-99: it's just different, that's all11:32
shad-99hahaha sure is :)11:33
abattoirshad-99: just learn the basics, and you'll get along :)11:33
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Linux_Galorehmm , were is the external taskbar hidden these days ?11:33
Linux_Galoreits not in the applets list11:34
shad-99mmm .. don't get it.. so many directories in this linux root, that makes me wanna puke.. don't know what all dirs are fore really?11:34
barochmd help11:34
Linux_Galoreaaah found it11:34
abattoirshad-99: well, if you want to know, what each are, i can point to guides which explain...11:34
baroa store device mount on account11:35
Jucatofdoving: sorry, I was away that time. someone just mentioned that the upgrade guide (Dapper to Edgy) was outdated, that one of the commands was causing a database lockup.11:37
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pi1lBusID       "AGP:01:00:0" - that is a line from xorg.conf for one video-out. what it will be for the second?11:38
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ubuntuhi11:39
barohallo11:39
ubuntui tried to install beryl but something is gone wrong..and now when i start the PC it loads only the terminal11:40
ubuntuhow can i restore my copy of kubuntu?11:40
ubuntu(sorry for my english)11:40
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ubuntuhow can i restore my copy of kubuntu?11:43
ubuntuyuhu11:43
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bomber     /msg nickserv set hide email on11:44
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zorglu_!info strigi11:51
ubotuPackage strigi does not exist in any distro I know11:51
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zorglu_!strigi11:57
ubotustrigi is an application which index the files on your desktop. homepage: http://www.vandenoever.info/software/strigi/ package: http://strigi.sourceforge.net/index.php/Binary_packages11:57
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zorglu_mmm im missing something11:58
zorglu_!info strigi-client11:58
ubotustrigi-client: Qt4 client for Strigi Desktop Search. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.8-2 (edgy), package size 67 kB, installed size 212 kB11:58
zorglu_oh ok :)11:58
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xenolplz which libdvdcss2 i need to install in order to get ability to play dvds? plx12:05
xenolplz which libdvdcss2 i need to install in order to get ability to play dvds? plx12:06
zorglu_ii  libdvdcss2            1.2.5-112:06
Jucato!dvd12:06
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages12:06
zorglu_this is the one i got from a yesterday install12:06
xenolfor dapper?12:06
zorglu_nope edgy12:06
xenolfor dapper?12:07
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zorglu_ok you like to repeat yourself :)12:07
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NightBirdxenol, try installing it... if it works, then it works, if not, remove it and ask again12:08
Jucatorepeatability = the innate ability to repeat questions when not answered within 5 seconds12:08
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NightBirdpoptart=food12:08
xenollol srz  zorglu_12:09
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crazy_busI found the flash movie file I wanted to download in the cache of firefox.  However the file is in .swf format.  Unfortuantly ffmpeg2theora just outputs the audio of the file.  Is there anyway to fix this?12:10
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DankerHi12:11
NightBirdcrazy_bus, if you drag it to a web browser, does it all work?12:11
DankerHow to force removal of package?12:11
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NightBirdapt-get remove?12:11
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DankerWithout any error handling12:12
DankerJust vanish it...12:12
crazy_busIf I do that it plays, but without a progress bar12:12
DankerDoesnt work that12:12
Danker--purge doest help too...12:12
Dankerdpkg with some option should help i think....12:12
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crazy_busIs there anyway to convert it to a more accesible format?12:14
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fdovingJucato: ok, please refer them to me, frode@ubuntu.com if i'm not around.12:16
Jucatofdoving: someone just told me that. I couldn't really confirm it. I think it was zorglu_, but he ain't here12:17
hak5fanHi.. Is it possible to have different icons and taskbars on the different desktops in kde12:17
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fdovingJucato: ok. i haven't done any upgrades with recent edgy-updates, can't really say i know it works anymore.12:18
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shad-99how do i edit sources.list with root command?12:19
shad-99i use gedit gui and i can't save the file  when i have edit it?12:20
shad-99i don't have permission?12:20
Jucatoshad-99: in Kubuntu, it's "kdesu kate"12:21
Dekansshad-99: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list12:21
shad-99ok ... thanks m8 ;)12:21
Jucatohm... gksudo and gedit are both GNOME apps, so unless it's installed too12:21
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DekansJucato: if he has gedit he must have gksudo too12:22
hak5fanHi.. Is it possible to have different icons and taskbars on the different desktops in kde?12:22
shad-99gksudo doesn't work?12:22
shad-99command not found12:23
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Jucatoshad-99: use kdesu kate instead of gksudo gedit12:23
shad-99open it in gui or?12:24
hak5fanwrite in terminal sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list12:24
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Dekansshad-99: kde or Gnome ?12:24
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Jucatoshad-99: Press Alt+F2, kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list12:24
Jucato!kdesu12:24
ubotuIn KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo12:24
shad-99ok i will try that.. :S12:25
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hak5fanIs there a setting somewhere which makes it possible to have differnt taskbars and icons on the diffent desktops... In kde12:27
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martintVNC connection reboot my machine, any idea?12:27
ScarFreewilli need help conecting php to mysql i've got the pakage install "php5-mysql"12:27
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martintc <hak5fan>12:28
martint <hak5fan> no that I know12:28
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hak5fanok12:28
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ScarFreewill1i need help conecting php to mysql i've got the pakage install "php5-mysql"12:29
knubbeim gonna try to attach my mobile phone to kubuntu (yes, i know this is an issue and it probably wont work, but..). when its attched, how do i see this port its connected to? (/dev/....)12:29
ScarFreewill1and whats the parameter to speed lemit wget?12:29
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martint <ScarFreewill1> better take some existing PHP code and reuse it12:30
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ScarFreewill1martint: i tried $conn = mysql_connect($dbhost, $dbuser, $dbpass)12:31
ScarFreewill1Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in $$$ on line ##12:31
fairmanHi, i need help to configure proftpd or vsftpd server, could somebody advice me? (I have Kubuntu 6.10)12:31
fdovingScarFreewill1: --limit-rate=amount, for wget.12:31
martintand?12:31
ScarFreewill1fdoving: thx12:31
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ScarFreewill1martint: i don't know how to connect them :P i don't know if the problem is my code or my server.... i really have no clue12:32
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ScarFreewill1fdoving: is that in bytes?12:33
martint <ScarFreewill1> I suggest you use some connection examples (like squirremail or phpMyadmin) to check if you wourl properly12:33
fdovingScarFreewill1: 'man wget' for more info.12:33
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ScarFreewill1martint: i know mysql works (phpmyadmin) i know php is working phpinfo()12:34
crazy_busI'm trying to convert a flash video to ogg theora with ffmpeg2theora.  However for some reason with this particular file its only recognising the audio.  How do I fix this?12:34
fdovingScarFreewill1: does it work of you load mysql.so ?12:35
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xenoli  cant play wmv in kaffeine i  get wmvdmod.dll error12:35
xenolanz ideas?12:35
xenolgot w32codecs installed12:35
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cathalwhy on gods green earth do u need root to acess wireless assistant. Surely u should be able to view the local networks without needing root?12:35
tsdgeosanything that needs access to hardware needs root power12:36
ScarFreewill1fdoving: i don't know what you mean12:36
fdovingScarFreewill1: dl('mysql.so');12:36
martintVNC connection reboot my machine, any idea?12:37
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ScarFreewill1fdoving: dl('mysql.so');??? its not a console cmd ,,,/>?12:38
fdovingScarFreewill1: it's php.12:38
ScarFreewill1fdoving: ok12:38
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ScarFreewill1fdoving: it does not give any out put12:39
Sean_Heronhello12:39
ScarFreewill1Sean_Heron: hi12:39
ScarFreewill1^-^12:39
Sean_HeronCan I ask a question ?12:40
Sean_HeronOr is something being discussed atm12:40
Sean_Heron?12:40
ScarFreewill1Sean_Heron: no, go ahead12:40
Sean_Heronthanks :), well, I wanted to ask if there is any way to change back my graphics driver from the recovery mode12:40
Sean_Heronbecause since I changed it, it crashes on booting12:41
Sean_Heron(just before showing login window)12:41
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ScarFreewill1Sean_Heron: when that happens i usually set myne to vesa12:41
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ScarFreewill1Sean_Heron: (vesa the driver)12:41
Sean_Heronyes, that works12:42
Sean_Heron(vesa)12:42
ScarFreewill1Sean_Heron: so do want to know how to set it?12:42
Sean_HeronWhat I need to know is how to change to vesa from console :)12:42
ScarFreewill1Sean_Heron: ok12:42
Sean_Heronrightd :D12:42
ScarFreewill1Sean_Heron: when you get to the place where it should ask the login screen12:42
ScarFreewill1Sean_Heron: press cntl+alt+F112:43
Sean_Heronthats kinda too lateish..12:43
Sean_Heronah, ok12:43
Sean_Heroncontinue :)12:43
ScarFreewill1*ctrl12:43
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Sean_Heronso I dont do recovery mode ?12:44
ScarFreewill1Sean_Heron: then your in the console, then tipe "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" (or any other texteditor you like to use instead of nano)12:44
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Sean_Heronok12:44
Sean_Heronyou german by any chance ?12:44
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Sean_HeronDann knntest du auch gerne auf deutsch schreiben :)12:45
ScarFreewill1Sean_Heron: ich spreeken nien deutsch12:45
Sean_Heronwell, no worries :)12:45
ScarFreewill1(very very little ^^)12:45
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ubuntu_=-12:46
Sean_Heronin xorg.conf, I guess Ill find an entry, with my driver name12:46
Sean_Heronand I have to change that to vesa ? yes ?12:46
ScarFreewill1Sean_Heron: yes12:46
Sean_Heronvim should do the job as well, right ?12:46
ScarFreewill1yes12:46
ScarFreewill1Section "Device"12:46
ScarFreewill1    Identifier     "Generic Video Card"12:47
ScarFreewill1    Driver         "vesa"12:47
ScarFreewill1EndSection12:47
ScarFreewill1you should change that...12:47
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ScarFreewill1Sean_Heron: are you using dapper?12:47
Sean_Heronyes12:47
ScarFreewill1Sean_Heron: and nvidia?12:47
Sean_Heronno12:47
Sean_Heronati12:47
Sean_HeronRadeon 900012:48
ScarFreewill1Sean_Heron: i know 3 people that their drivers just stoped working in dapper12:48
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Sean_Heronand they worked the version earlier ?12:48
ScarFreewill1Sean_Heron: yes12:48
Sean_Heron:/12:49
Sean_Heronwell, I guess I could download that12:49
Sean_Heronany idea if it might be better with edgy ?12:49
ScarFreewill1Sean_Heron: i've been on egdy most of the time, and now that feisty herd 3 is out i'm downloading it12:49
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martint_VNC connection reboot my machine, any idea?12:49
Sean_HeronAnyway, youve been a very good help, thank you12:49
ScarFreewill1Sean_Heron: i like edgy much more than dapper but i have a new gfx card so i don't know how edgy will treat you12:50
Sean_HeronIll try changing back to vesa now, and Ill be back if I have any problems :)12:50
ScarFreewill1Sean_Heron: no prob12:50
ScarFreewill1Sean_Heron: ok cya12:50
Sean_Heronsee you (hopefully not :D)12:50
ScarFreewill1Sean_Heron: ^-^12:50
ScarFreewill1what is the php command to connect to mysql?12:52
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bomberif a file name has spaces in it what character takes the spaces place?01:03
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bomberplease01:04
fdovingbomber: like 'file name' -> file\ name01:04
fdovingyou prepend the space with a \ to tell the system this is a space.01:04
fdovingor you can use "file name" without a \.01:05
bombersweet.... thanks01:05
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sorin7486dose anybody know any SQL channel ? ... I tried #SQL but people don't answer there01:05
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bomberi dont.... sorry01:07
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sorin7486ok ... thank you01:08
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Tidothis is completely unrelated, but does anyone know a tool that will look up a song and update it's id3 info?01:11
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fdovingtido, like musicbrainz?01:12
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Tidooo neat, thanks fdoving01:13
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fdovingtido, amarok supports that too, not sure if you need to recompile or not though.. probably some legal issues with it.01:15
slow-motionhallo01:15
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devilsadvocatehi... whenever i try to open a network stream my amarok tellem me that "no suitable input plugin is found" ... any ideas what is wrong?01:16
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stamenhi01:23
stamenis KDE 3.5.6 final and stable01:23
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stamen?01:23
stamenhould I install01:23
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ScarFreewill2stamen: i think it is01:25
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stamenok01:26
ScarFreewill2its on feisty heard 3 i don't think ppl would put it on there if its not stable01:26
stamen10x01:26
goodthingHmm, wondering. Is stuff like "Broken pipe: Underrun occurred" errors, when recording with audio enabled from the tool recordmydesktop something which can go in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/DellInspironXPSM1710 ?01:26
stamenok, I will upgrade :)01:26
ScarFreewill2!kde01:26
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE01:26
ScarFreewill2odpm01:26
ScarFreewill2don't think that will help01:26
Jucatohttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php01:27
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Sean_Heronhi, unfortunately, Im back :)01:29
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Sean_HeronHmm, is my friendly helper no longer here...01:30
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Sean_Herondamn01:31
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kkosmosomone01:35
Sean_Heroncan anybody here tell me, why it might be that I dont have "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" ?01:35
Sean_Heronas in I dont have /X1101:35
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Jucatonot really sure why you wouldn't have that directory.01:36
Jucatotry "sudo apt-get install --reinstall xorg"?01:36
capcompossibly another window manager?01:36
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Jucatono, X is not dependent on Window Manager01:37
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Sean_HeronIve installed kubuntu dapper from cd01:37
Sean_Heronah ok :)01:37
Sean_HeronIll try the reinstal, thanks01:37
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Sean_HeronIts very nice how quickly You get help here :)01:38
Sean_Heronbye01:38
dewittsAce2016: u there01:39
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korn01:42
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Jucatokorn: what?01:42
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YumeNoEienhi everyone01:46
kkosmoJucato:01:47
kkosmo?01:47
Jucatohuh?01:47
YumeNoEienwhat?01:47
kkosmoare you know how i can make that the key shift+delete move the files to the trash01:47
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YumeNoEienjust dont use shift?01:48
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kkosmoi cannt01:49
Jucatowhy?01:49
YumeNoEienkkosmo: is your keyboard broken?01:49
Jucatopressing the Del key only will move files to trash01:49
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kkosmodont know i just dont remember01:49
kkosmoto use delete01:49
kkosmoi use shift delete01:49
kkosmolike 5 years01:49
anluxhello ?01:49
YumeNoEienlol01:49
kkosmoits hard to change it01:49
YumeNoEienhi anlux01:49
anluxhi01:49
YumeNoEienk kkosmo01:49
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kkosmojust help how i can change it01:50
zorglu_!build01:50
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)01:50
YumeNoEienremove one of your shift keys for a week01:50
YumeNoEienyoul lose the habit01:50
Jucatokkosmo: in Konqueror -> Settings menu -> Configure Shortcuts, look for the "Move to Trash" entry and make sure it is set to the Delete key01:50
YumeNoEieni did the same with my window buttons01:50
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YumeNoEienHmm Jucato could you help me with something?01:50
anluxhas anyone of you experience with banshee ? My banshee hangs during startup ..01:51
Jucatoif I know how, yes.01:51
YumeNoEieni have a winmodem probelem01:51
YumeNoEieni allready went to01:51
YumeNoEien!winmodem01:51
Jucatooh.. that I don't know.. :(01:51
ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto01:51
YumeNoEienaww01:51
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YumeNoEiendo you know anything about conflicting packages perhaps?01:52
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Jucatohm... what's the situation?01:52
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YumeNoEienwel i installed the driver as the ubuntu site told me to01:52
YumeNoEienbut the modem doesnt work so i went to the package mngr01:52
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YumeNoEienand it says "conflict: sl-modem-modules"01:53
JucatoYumeNoEien: um...  that "conflicts:" line just tells you that you can't have that package and sl-modem-modules installed at the same time. one of them has to go01:54
YumeNoEienargh!01:54
YumeNoEienoh wait01:54
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YumeNoEienso i have the package sl-modem-daemon, and should remove sl-modem-modules01:54
YumeNoEienty Jucato01:55
Jucatohm..01:55
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YumeNoEien:p01:55
Jucatodo you have both installed?01:55
YumeNoEieni think so, else the conflict wouldnt be there right?01:55
YumeNoEienbut im gonna look if i have the sl-modem-modules installed01:56
YumeNoEienim sure about the sl-modem-daemon though01:56
Jucatowhere are you seeing this conflict?01:56
YumeNoEienargh01:57
JucatoYumeNoEien: all packages have "conflicts: " lines01:57
YumeNoEienoh well i went in package mngr and clicked on the daemon package01:57
YumeNoEienthen hit details01:57
YumeNoEienoic01:57
Jucatoit just tells the packager that you can't have package A and package B installed at the same time01:57
YumeNoEienahh ic01:57
Jucatoit's like a description/command for the package manager01:57
YumeNoEienbecause i couldnt find a modules package01:58
YumeNoEienmore like a warning01:58
YumeNoEienand not an error01:58
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YumeNoEienhmm, hey if i remove the package its not like windows, that it leaves behind any junk files right?01:59
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JucatoPurge it instead of plain Remove and it will remove config files too02:00
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YumeNoEienk02:02
YumeNoEienwhats the CLI input to purge it?02:02
Jucatoapt-get?02:03
Jucatosudo apt-get remove --purge02:03
YumeNoEiencool thanks :)02:03
YumeNoEienso "sudo apt-get remove sl-modem-daemon --purge" in this case02:04
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YumeNoEienargh02:05
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YumeNoEienE: could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Recource temporarily unavailable)02:06
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YumeNoEienE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proces using it?02:07
YumeNoEien>,>02:07
SSJ_GZYumeNoEien:Is Adept open?02:07
YumeNoEienyea02:08
Jucatoplease close Adept first02:08
YumeNoEienoh that was the cause02:08
YumeNoEienk02:08
YumeNoEienit is done, cool02:08
YumeNoEienthanks guys02:08
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YumeNoEienwell, guess il mail the linmodem people again02:09
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tdoes ubuntu do HD-DVD playback?02:18
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twaas reading this and began to wonder http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html#functionality02:19
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treally interesting stuff02:19
tneway, bye02:19
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Poomcan some1 help me with this ? http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/596/snapshot7qz1.png02:23
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JucatoPoom: better ask in #ubuntu-xgl since you have Beryl running02:24
PoomJucato: No that black color appear in firefox before I had beryl running02:25
JucatoPoom: hm... Firefox doesn't follow all of KDE's Style settings, because it's not a KDE/Qt app (it uses GTK). so I'm not entirely sure what else to do02:26
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Poomoh02:26
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gerd_hi there, i am just online with my new kubunty...02:30
gerd_(nothingmore to say :-)02:30
goodthinggerd_: upgraded your system right?02:31
gerd_no -fresh installed.02:31
goodthingwith latest patches and all02:31
goodthingno i mean the regular updates02:31
gerd_mmh... dont know :-)02:32
gerd_will check that soon....(i guess)02:32
goodthinggerd_: you should know :p02:32
gerd_could you tell me if there is a german kubuntu channel?02:32
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gerd_#kubuntu.de doesnt exist.02:32
tsdgeos!de02:32
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de02:32
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gerd_thanks a lot!02:33
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sc0tchAre there any quick and dirty ways/utilities for measuring network thru-put? (network speeds)02:37
HymnToLifesc0tch, there are SuperKaramba applets that do it02:38
zakameiftop, iptraf on the console02:38
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dhqhey  there  i need help 915 drivers02:45
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dhqi just downloaded them and need help02:46
dhq!91502:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 915 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:46
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Jucato!i91502:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about i915 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:50
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goodthingwhat is 915 to be exact?02:51
Jucatointel driver I think02:51
Jucato!intel02:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:52
Jucatobah I quit :P02:52
fritsch!xserver-xorg-video-i81002:52
ubotuxserver-xorg-video-i810: X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.6.5-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 148 kB, installed size 392 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm hppa hurd-i386 i386 ia64 kfreebsd-i386 m68k mips mipsel netbsd-i386 powerpc)02:52
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fritschJucato: :-)02:53
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Jucatodhq: ^^^^02:53
Jucatonot mine though lol02:53
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dhqJucato: i need help dude02:54
Jucatodhq: if it's about those drivers, I'm clueless...02:55
fritschdhq: you messed up your xorg drivers by installing compiz stuff?02:55
dhqJucato: where can i get help02:55
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fritschdhq: there was something 5 months ago?02:55
fritschdhq: :-)02:55
Jucatohm.. anyway, what's the problem?02:55
JucatoI'll see if I can help02:55
dhqfritsch: yes02:56
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dhqfritsch: then had to refresh the whole drivers and install kde desktop again02:56
fritschdhq: not been here for 5 month ;-)02:56
fritschdhq: but the problems are the same02:56
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dhqfritsch: Jucato: well you see when i start my pc my laptop is like in 2 parts the top of the screen is black and some of it is below the screen i cant see  then i have to press my laptoplid button to get everything rite and the again the problem with my opengl etc02:59
Jucatooh you caught me... 2 things I have no experience with... intel and laptops...02:59
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dhqJucato: nice03:00
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dhqJucato: why me  :(03:01
Jucatosorry dhq.. :(03:01
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zakamedhq: I've the two Jucato lacks, but mine's a 945 and it works fine :/03:02
dhqJucato: noproblem03:02
Jucatozakame: I also lack your expertise, your brain, etc etc etc :P03:02
dhqzakame: well help me with my problem03:03
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zakamedhq: you say you got the 915 drivers?03:03
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dhqzakame: yes03:03
dhqzakame: i cant even install xgl03:04
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zakamethis is on what release?03:04
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dhqzakame: how to i check my release03:06
Jucato!version03:06
ubotuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell03:06
goodthingor cat /etc/issue03:06
Jucatothe lsb_release is an LSB standard, so that might be better. it also shows it better :P03:06
dhqzakame: i am using edgy03:06
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dhqJucato: no lbs modules avalible03:07
goodthingJucato: i see :)03:07
Jucatolsb, not lbs03:07
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Jucatolsb_release -a03:07
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dhqJucato: no lsb modules availible03:08
zakameso, you've gotten the 915 drivers (I presume xorg ones, -i810?) and you're on edgy, right?  did you do `sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg`?03:08
JucatoO.o03:08
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zakamewhat would be possible?03:08
goodthingJucato: i have that too in the first line when i do  lsb_release -a03:08
BluesKajyes , I get the same message no lsb modules available but it continues on and lists the distro and codename03:08
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Jucatoweird...03:09
Jucatonever remember getting that03:09
zakameoh, the lsb modules thing... that means the other lsb packages aren't installed, I think03:09
goodthingwell, it evens out the weirdness of myself, so all good03:09
BluesKajwhat other lsb pkges ?03:09
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zakamewell, apt-cache can tell you better ;)03:10
Jucatobut the necessary lsb packages should have been installed03:10
fritschlsb-release just depends on lsb-release? non other?03:10
zakamecxx,desktop,graphics,build, among others03:10
BluesKajwhat does lsb mean ?03:11
zakamelinux standards base03:11
BluesKajlist b ?03:11
Chousukeleast significant bit03:11
Chousuke;P03:11
fritsch;-)03:11
BluesKajhehe03:11
zakamecurrently at version 3.1, I believe03:11
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zakameChousuke: right on!!1103:12
Jucatoheh03:12
BluesKajwhat's the ls apt-cache command ?03:12
Chousukesearch03:12
Jucatoapt-cache search03:12
Chousukeor what?03:12
Jucatoapt-cache show <package> etc03:12
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BluesKajaha , sudo apt-cache show lsb , worked03:14
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goodthingJucato: well, it is installed here, it just does not show it in the command for some reason03:14
rdarchcan anyone tell me which kernel version the current kubuntu edgy installer installs?03:14
JucatoBluesKaj: no need for sudo03:14
Jucatordarch: 2.6.17-10-generic03:14
rdarchcheers :)03:14
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BluesKajwell it worked anyway , Jucato :)03:16
Jucatoheh :)03:16
Sean_Heronhey, I just wanted to mention (in case any of the friendly blokes or lasses from earlier are still around), that I actually did not have /etc/x11/xorg.cofg03:16
JucatoSean_Heron: you tried reinstalling the xorg package?03:16
Sean_Heronwhat I did have was /etc/X11/xorg.conf :D03:16
Jucatoheh03:16
Sean_Heronyes thanks :D03:16
JucatoLinux is case sensitive :)03:16
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JucatoX11 is not the same as x!!03:17
Jucatoer x1103:17
Sean_HeronI think from today on I might remeber that :D03:17
BluesKaj /etc/x11/xorg.confg is the proper file03:17
Sean_Heronthanks anyway03:17
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zakameyes, there was a cougf there03:17
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JucatoBluesKaj: no. /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:17
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BluesKajoops03:17
JucatoI just said that Linux is case sensitive :P03:17
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goodthingoh this reminds me of something...03:18
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Sean_Heronnow, can anybody tell me what precicely I need to have their to have the vesa drivers running, instead of the ones which arent working atm ?03:19
Jucato!xconfig03:19
ubotuTo reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes03:19
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Jucatowhen you get to the driver selection part, choose vesa03:19
BluesKaj!FixRes03:20
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto03:20
Jucatoor if you're using an NVIDIA card, choose nv03:20
Sean_HeronSomeguy told me earlier what I had to do, but unfortunately I didnt copy and save...03:20
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Sean_Heronthats interesting :)03:20
Jucatonv and ati are the free/open drivers for NVIDIA and ATI cards03:20
binkshas anyone used mtp support for amorak does it work well03:20
binks!mtp03:20
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mtp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:20
zakamewb dhq, how did it go?03:20
Sean_Heronso just !xconfig, and that should work ?03:21
BluesKaj binks, what's mtp ?03:21
Sean_Heronok, Ill give that a try, thanks :D03:21
JucatoSean_Heron: er03:21
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Jucatono, use the command that the !xconfig factoid gave03:22
binksits the way my mp3 player connects its not a usb drive03:22
dhqzakame: i had to log out as my keboard stopped workin03:22
dhqzakame: strange rite03:22
binksBlueKaj my mp3 player does mount like a drive it mounts using something called mtp03:23
Sean_Heronaah03:23
Sean_Heronthe ubotu is not a person :)03:23
Sean_Herongood you said that :D03:23
BluesKaja hardware mp3 player would have the issue with the soundcard not amarok03:23
zakamedhq: strange indeed :(03:23
binksBlueKaj http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31624603:24
binksits so i can transfere songs on/off03:24
dhqzakame: so tell me how to get xgl and my grafix working properly03:24
dhqzakame: you are usin whict drivers03:24
zakamewell I'm using i810, according to my xorg.conf03:25
BluesKajok binks , wasn't aware of that ...amarok tries to be too many things to too many ppl it seems03:26
zakameI'm not using xgl atm (just upgraded to feisty now) so I can't be of help there, but I do believe i810 should cover 915, with a little help from 915resolution03:26
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binkswell no it just uses libmtp to allow me to transfere songs on / off like itunes does for ipods except i have the new samsung k303:27
dhqzakame: so your xgl works fine03:27
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binkshttp://libmtp.sourceforge.net/03:27
zakamedhq: no, I mean I haven't used xgl yet on this laptop03:28
BluesKajbinks, is it the 30Gig HDD Samsung player?03:28
zakameI did use xgl on my aging desktop though, and that's on nvidia :/03:28
dhqzakame: even i used it on my nvidia desktop03:29
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zakameand it worked fine there?03:29
dhqzakame: so how do i configure my drivers03:29
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ubuntu__hi03:30
dhqzakame: yes03:30
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ubuntu__i have some problems installing grub03:30
binksno its a 4 gig slimline one its very good it has dsp03:30
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binkshttp://www.trustedreviews.com/multimedia/news/2006/12/06/Samsung-K3-The-Speaker-less-K5/p103:30
BluesKajok03:30
zakamedhq: did you try doing a `sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg` and following the prompts?03:31
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dhqzakame: will try now03:31
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dhqzakame: which all should i select dri gl etc03:35
zakameyou could select all for the moment03:36
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dhqzakame: ok done03:39
zakamehow did it go?03:40
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dhqzakame: well ok i guess03:41
dhqzakame: no errors nothing i guess i have to restart xserver to see the changes03:41
zakamego ahead03:41
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dhqzakame: brb03:43
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BluesKajok, my buddy has dapper and XP installed on his work pc...the company is upgrading to vista,  if he installs vista on the ntfs partition he will lose the Grub bootloader , correct ?  If so what's the best way around that problem ...and no smart remarks pls :)03:44
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BluesKajhe wants to save access to dapper03:44
jhutchinsBluesKaj: Make a boot disk/floppy, or use a rescue disk/live CD to restore the bootloader.  google "restore grub".03:44
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jhutchins"restore bootloader linux"03:45
jhutchins"restore bootloader ubuntu"03:45
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jhutchinsThat should give you a weeks worth of howto's.03:45
BluesKajjhutchins, what about something like Ultimate boot CD ?03:45
jhutchinsYup.03:45
BluesKajhehe03:45
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jhutchinsThe goot thing about a boot floppy is that it boots to your existing install and makes it really easy to restore the bootloader without worrying aobut chroot or anything.03:46
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jhutchinsI don't do grub, so the exact procedure will have to come from google.03:46
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BluesKajok, but I don't think his pc has a floppy drive03:47
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jhutchinscd/usb03:48
BluesKajyes of course03:48
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dhqzakame: still the same03:49
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zakameaw :( do you have 915resolution installed?03:51
ubuntu_hi i want to install kubuntu03:51
ubuntu_i have 256 mb ram03:51
ubuntu_how can i activate swap partition03:51
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dhqzakame: i guess i used 81503:52
ubuntu_ /dev/hda6 is my swap partition03:52
ubuntu_or can i intall kubuntu from konsole03:52
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LeeJunFanubuntu_: you shouldn't have to activate it - type run 'free' at the konsole and it'll tell you how much swap you have and is in use, etc... you can install kubuntu from commandline by running 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'03:53
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michaelpowhat is the name of the app in ubuntu6.06 to burn cd of downloaded iso?03:55
ubuntu_             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached03:55
ubuntu_Mem:        238640     234620       4020          0       1768      7820003:55
ubuntu_-/+ buffers/cache:     154652      8398803:55
ubuntu_Swap:            0          0          003:55
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jhutchinsmichaelpo: cdrecord.03:55
michaelpoi cant find cdrecord in the menu03:56
ubuntu_what is the normal and root passwords. i have just insert latest kubuntu cd03:56
michaelpoi have to download and install?03:56
jhutchinsubuntu_: 1) Don't paste, use pasetebin, freenode's servers will kick you.  2) use fdisk -l to see if you really have a swap partition, it may need the partition type set.03:56
jhutchins!sudo | ubuntu_03:57
ubotuubuntu_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.03:57
jhutchinsmichaelpo: Command line.03:57
jhutchins!burn03:57
ubuntu_i also dont know normal user password03:57
ubotuCD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto03:57
michaelpojhutchins: thanks03:58
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ubuntu_ /dev/hda7   256 mb swap partition03:59
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raoulsanahello04:00
raoulsanasomeone speak french ?04:00
Jucato!fr | raoulsana04:00
uboturaoulsana: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.04:00
raoulsanathx04:00
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ubuntu_so how can i activate this swap partition04:00
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raoulsanai trie to install kubuntu in siemens-fujitsu primergy server04:02
raoulsanaand i looking for the good driver04:03
raoulsanai try04:03
raoulsanalol04:03
ubuntu_LeeJunFan: 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'  does this command start x server or just start installing.04:04
michaelpook.. the howto say to right click and "writing image to disc", but i'm not sure if it can detect my writer... it keep on asking me to put in cd or cdrw... i have tried many different blank cds and cdrws already...04:04
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michaelpowhat do i do now... help...04:06
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wimpiesHI all/any, just did a update to feisty 3(had feisty2) but now amarok refuses to play mp3 (It hangs) ?04:08
Chousuke... just what did they break in that release?04:09
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Chousukeit seems everyone is having sound problems .P04:09
zakamewimpies: hmm looks local to you, I'm playing mp3s quite fine here on latest feisty04:10
wimpiesusing amarok ?04:10
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Jucatowimpies: you can also try in #ubuntu+1 if people are experiencing similar things04:10
wimpiesjucato : trying that no but seems nobody's there ...04:11
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wimpiesmpg123 plays it ...04:11
wimpiesYep ... I hear the sound of a dialog that is supposed to popup but I cannot see the dialog and the amarok apps hangs04:13
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crazy_penguinHello04:13
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M_Fatih2hi eerybody04:15
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michaelpohow do i check if ubuntu6.06 detected my cdwriter correctly or not?04:17
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tazzi am having problems reading data of my dvdwriter i just burned a cd using k3b but when i insert my cd the folder shows up blank :-S, i am using kubuntu edgy04:17
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angasuletazz: can you test the cd on another computer?04:19
goodthingtazz: maybe the dvd station in not mounted?04:19
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utenteciao04:19
Andaleciao utente :D04:19
ubuntu_can i install kubuntu to a 5 GB partition04:19
utentebella andale04:20
utentema sono tutti stranieri ?04:20
angasuleubuntu_: yes04:20
angasule!it | utente04:20
ubotuutente: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!04:20
tazzangasule, other cds show up blank as well04:20
utenteocchei04:20
utentethk04:20
goodthingubuntu: yes, but more is better04:20
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tazzthe dvd-wr mounts but there is no visible data04:21
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goodthingand you'll probably gona hit the roof quick04:21
angasuletazz: well, assuming they are not blank :) open k3b, go to Tools->Diskinfo, and check if the disk is empty or full04:21
tazzangasule, full04:21
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angasuletazz: those other disks, they were working previously? on the same or different computer?04:22
tazzeven disk-admin shows that the cds are full04:22
ForgeAuswhats the ubuntu1/2/3/etc attached to the end of packages mean?04:22
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tazzangasule, ever thing works on other computer but just not with this dvdwriter i switched it with a cd-wr same problem04:23
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angasuletazz: oh, one thing: you insert the disk, a dialog shows up and you choose to open the cd, then the disk shows up as blank, right?04:25
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tazzangasule, no i dont get any dialog04:25
angasuletazz: you don't get any dialog upon inserting a disk??04:25
tazzbut when i go to /media/cdrom0 it sohws as mounted04:26
tazzangasule, nope04:26
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angasuletazz: something like: /dev/hda on /media/cdrom0 type iso9660 (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,user=angasule)04:26
angasuletazz: that's odd, remove the CD, and check if it still thinks it's mounted04:26
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angasuletazz: it sometimes happens in edgy, that after loading a CD, you have to hit refresh in konqueror to actually see the contents, but I don't think that's the problem in your case04:28
tazzah got the problem, the problem is that the permissions are set to root04:28
tazzso many root can view the data04:28
tazzhow do i change that?04:28
tazzso only root can view the data04:29
ForgeAuslaptops/tablets etc don't really need bluetooth right? I mean you could plug a dongle in but they don't really need it right?04:29
angasuletazz: gimme a min, it's done in the System Settings, but I have to open it since I don't remember it exactly :)04:29
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BluesKajjhutchins,  http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/?section=download04:30
ilyaostr9kubuntu are awesum04:30
ilyaostr9yeyeyey04:30
ilyaostr9www.kubuntuisthebest.com04:30
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angasuletazz: go to Advanced-> Disk and filesystems -> admin mode04:31
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ilyaostr9Hi UBNNY04:31
ilyaostr9BOOBUNTU04:31
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angasuletazz: I have it configured as: writable (checkbox enabled) and 'one user at a time may enable/disable')04:31
ilyaostr9KOOBOOBOONTOO ROX04:31
tazzangasule, you mean gksu disks-admin?04:32
angasuletazz: the system settings, in the KDE Menu->system settings04:32
angasuletazz: or, you might go to /media and do "sudo 777 cdrom0" which will give anyone permission for anything with cdrom004:33
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ilyaostr9LOL PENIS04:34
angasuleangasule: but I'm not sure that "proper", I just noticed that's how I have it set up :)04:34
goodthingchillout ilyaostr904:34
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tazzangasule, done got it thanks angasule04:34
angasuletazz: have fun :)04:35
ilyaostr9but i want a penis fight!04:35
angasuleilyaostr9: you'd lose, now behave04:35
ilyaostr9will u penis fight with me goodthing04:35
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ilyaostr9my penis is huuuuge04:35
ilyaostr9lol04:35
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Jucatoilyaostr9: stop that or leave04:35
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goodthingdon't tell me this is happening...04:36
ForgeAusily yeah but only when you use a microscope04:36
Jucatoheh ok. just leave...04:36
ForgeAusah kewl04:36
goodthingah :)04:36
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PriceyHey, I can't get amarok mounting my ipod anymore... Its mounted at "/media/JOE'S IPOD" and no matter how I format that path, it says there's no ipod found04:43
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Vuenhi, question, why is Ark so hard to use?04:49
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hammer2!libdvdcss04:49
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages04:49
d0dgeVuen: It's not?04:49
Vuenwhy is it that when i merely select some files, i get three 'unrar' processes that tie up my entire CPU and hard drive?04:49
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Vuenwhy does it insist on launching a bunch of unrars without confirming ANYTHING with me? why does it do this when i just box-select files in an archive? why can't i just drag files off into a konqueror window?04:50
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orient2000Hi! Is there any program to burn iso to CD? My k3b dosn't work.04:52
Vuenorient2000: gnomebaker04:52
Vuenorient2000: it's gtk, but it'l work04:52
orient2000I will trywhat is gtk?04:53
ForgeAusGraphic Tool Kit (I think)04:53
ForgeAusits also the basis of Gnome04:53
ForgeAus(kinda like how QT is the basis of KDE)04:53
orient2000is it in kde?04:53
orient2000OK thanks04:54
ForgeAusits in kubuntu, not sure if its in kde excatly04:54
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JucatoGTK = the GIMP Tool Kit, the GUI toolkit that GNOME uses04:54
Theorywhat is broken about k3b ?04:54
Jucato(and it's Qt, not QT)04:54
ForgeAusgimp tool kit? wow...04:55
Jucatoyep. the GIMP is older than GNOME :)04:55
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ForgeAusGimp is THAT important to Gnome?04:55
Jucatono silly :P04:55
JucatoGTK was the toolkit used to create the GIMP04:55
Jucatoor rather04:55
Jucatothe 2 were developed side by side04:55
ForgeAusthats what I thought04:55
ChousukeGTK was created to create the gimp.04:55
Jucatoand when the time came for GNOME to be born, they decided to use GTK for it04:56
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test34Were the vulnerabilities causing DoS in Bind 9.3.2-2ubuntu3 fixed ? or where can I find out ?05:15
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Wespe hi, how can i make my kde panel completely transparent?05:15
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Wespewhen i set the panel background to transparent I only get about 80% transaprency05:17
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abattoirWespe: rt. click->Configure Panel->Appearance->Advanced->transparency05:17
juano_Wespe: right click you panel configure your panel05:17
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Jucatooh great05:17
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abattoiraah, i didn't notice the netsplit05:17
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Wespewell I tried that, but i only get about 80% transparency05:17
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abattoirWespe: try changing the 'tint' amount05:18
juano_Wespe: advanced options ---> tint amount05:18
Wespeah, i see05:18
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Wespethat's it, thanx all05:18
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eMish_i installed fluxbox, when logging in, i got 'failed to start enc=utf8' session, falling back' and go KDE. how to fix ?05:28
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meduxahi, is anybody around attendind to the international free software conference in Extremadura, Spain, next week?05:36
meduxahttp://www.freesoftwareworldconference.com/en/05:36
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meduxaI'll be there and I can show you guys mEDUXa, the Kubuntu based edu distro from the Canary Island Gov05:37
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easytigercool.05:38
meduxawrite me an e-mail if you go so I can meet you: abenito@grupocpd.com o eslic@ejerciciosresueltos.com05:38
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goodthinglol, i just fried my old monitor with herd3 :p05:40
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goodthingwas weird it did still function anyway05:41
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draikSomehow, somebody changed the pw on my laptop and now I can't get in05:49
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draikHow do I go about changing the pw?05:49
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acfrazierI have a problem05:49
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acfrazieranything I do to try and get into KDE on my live CD, it doesn't work. I need to install linux on the new partition I made but I can't get the graphics up and running05:49
acfrazierit just says no screen found05:49
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luca_b!xgl05:52
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects05:52
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acfrazierX05:57
acfrazier!X05:57
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:57
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acfrazieranyone here?06:03
jhutchinsNope.06:04
draikIt's rather strange to not find people here on a saturday06:04
acfraziermeh06:05
acfrazierwell is anyone able to help?06:05
draikI'm not sure how or why it happened, but it seems that someone has deleted my user from my laptop06:06
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draikand I can't login06:06
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carlHi06:06
acfrazierhello06:06
carlHow do I install new themes in kubuntu?06:06
acfrazieryou got kubuntu running?06:06
acfrazierI still don't.06:06
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draikI have Kubuntu running, but I've had issues with themes before06:07
carl..?06:07
acfrazierI still need to get mine installed06:07
acfrazierlemme try downloading the DVD06:07
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acfraziercause I was using the CD.. probably had lack of drivers for my GFX card, that's why06:08
EruantalonIvtv doesn't work for me. I am getting error when I do "sudo modprobe ivtv". I get the "Unknown symbol video_unregister_device"-types of errors that are mentioned at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_IVTV_Edgy, but reinstalling the kernel as instructed changed nothing. What to do?06:08
Eruantalon!themes06:08
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy06:08
acfrazierprobably !changethemes would help carl06:09
carl!changethemes'06:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about changethemes' - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:09
carl!changethemes06:09
ubotu[Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu06:09
Eruantalon!ivtv06:09
ubotuIVTV can be installed on Edgy by following the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_IVTV_Edgy06:09
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acfrazier!installingkubuntu06:10
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M_Fatih2i have a problem with polyester theme in kde06:16
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M_Fatih2my polyester theme's glass typed buttons not working..06:17
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distrywhats a good alternative to the default dock in kubuntu?06:19
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adaptrsmoothdock !06:25
adaptrbeautiful, but tricky to get right - and hheaavvyyy on your system :)06:25
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jrifflewhere can i find a list of mirrors for the kubuntu-herd3 release, my download is at 7.6 KB/sec on a 5 Meg cable connection06:25
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jrifflei'm not that patient06:26
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EruantalonIvtv doesn't work for me. I am getting error when I do "sudo modprobe ivtv". I get the "Unknown symbol video_unregister_device"-types of errors that are mentioned at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_IVTV_Edgy, but reinstalling the kernel as instructed changed nothing. What to do?06:26
jriffleand there were only 3 people seeding the torrent06:26
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zorglu_jriffle: using bittorrent will likely make it better, no ?06:27
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draikHow do I use the LiveCD to get into my HDD partition and access everything on it as if I was running the actual HDD, not LiveCD?06:27
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jrifflezorglu_: there are only 3 people seeding the file, i would prefer a fast server so i don't have to wait until tomorrow to play with it06:28
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zorglu_jriffle: the number of peer is not that relevant, only the speed of all the peer matter06:28
zorglu_jriffle: have you tried ?06:28
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jriffleyes ktorrent is downloading now at 11K06:29
zorglu_ah ok :)06:29
zorglu_then i dunno06:29
apokryphostorrents suck, use metalinks 8)06:29
draik!chroot06:29
ubotuhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box06:30
zorglu_apokryphos: yep they have good principle but horrible excution :)06:30
zorglu_apokryphos: and i mean HORRIBLE :)06:30
apokryphoszorglu_: aria2 has a pretty good implementation; what's wrong with it?06:30
zorglu_like no spec, producing bogus xml etc... :)06:30
draikI'm not sure what I am looking for now06:30
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apokryphoszorglu_: eh?06:31
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zorglu_apokryphos: yep believe me to implement it is 'impossible' :)06:31
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apokryphoszorglu_: well, it has been implemented, and it works very well, so... ;-)06:31
zorglu_apokryphos: and i did tried a lot06:31
zorglu_apokryphos: well i doubt that :)06:31
apokryphosyou doubt that it works?06:32
goodthingehm, the desktop herd3 is gone well for me06:32
zorglu_apokryphos: yep :)06:32
apokryphoszorglu_: we had over 60,000 downloads with metalinks for openSUSE in about 2 days. So :)06:32
zorglu_apokryphos: so ? :)06:32
draikWhere are passwords kept in Kubuntu?06:32
apokryphoszorglu_: so you're going to have to expand on the very vague "doesn't work", of course06:33
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fdovingdraik: the ones in the wallet?06:33
draikand how do I mount the HDD so that I can access it directly while still using the LiveCD06:33
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zorglu_apokryphos: ok i can try, they produce bogus XML, they have huge hole in the spec, like completly unspecified stuff06:33
draikfdoving: No. It seems that someone got into my system and added users and changed my pw06:33
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zorglu_apokryphos: when they are multiple file, they dont say what to do06:33
fdovingdraik: ah. those passwords are kept in /etc/shadow06:34
zorglu_apokryphos: and in fact there is nothing to do except either 'interactively asking' the user or download them all06:34
apokryphoszorglu_: I don't know about XML, but what exactly is bogus about them? Tell me, and I'll ask.06:34
apokryphoszorglu_: when they are multiple file, they dont say what to do <-- eh?06:34
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zorglu_apokryphos: if you ask the user to choose,... well may be be acceptable in some context, but not in mine :)06:34
apokryphoswhat's wrong with not asking the user to choose which mirror to use?06:35
zorglu_apokryphos: and download them all is bad, because some put all the version of the file in the same .metalink06:35
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draikfdoving: How do I access that file to change the password or to at least find out what the pw is?06:35
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apokryphoszorglu_: download all what?06:35
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zorglu_apokryphos: like openoffice which provide all the version06:35
apokryphosI honestly don't understand what you're staying. They provide all the version of what?06:36
apokryphos*saying06:36
fdovingdraik: you can't easily find out what the password is, the easiest is to re-set it.06:36
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draikfdoving: How do I do that?06:36
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zorglu_apokryphos: oh and i forgot :) they say 'use .torrent in xml and not in bencode' but dont give the xml format for it :))))))))))))06:36
fdovingdraik: in recovery mode, 'passwd username'06:36
draikok06:37
draikwill do06:37
zorglu_apokryphos: so it qualifies as 'no spec' to me :)06:37
apokryphoszorglu_: so you're annoyed about its implementation into the specific XML files?06:37
fdovingdraik: if someone (evil) gained access to your system and changed your password, i would re-install. you don't know what they might have done to your system.06:37
apokryphoszorglu_: ok, but this is very far from "doesn't work". It does.06:37
zorglu_apokryphos: and as 'i dont think it has been implemented' :)06:37
draikfdoving: I had 3 extra users: flor mcc and users06:37
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bubu1ukcan i install ubuntu system without GUI? just base system.06:38
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apokryphoszorglu_: metalinks are also really only going to get bigger. wget and kget support for them is being added right now06:38
fdovingbubu1uk: yes, select server install.06:38
apokryphoswith regard to kget, nothing until kde4 though06:38
zorglu_apokryphos: well i implemented all what aria does and i noted in my doc 'metalink is ultra beta. dont use it except if you know what you are doing' :)06:38
bubu1ukfdoving: thanx06:38
EruantalonIs there a way just as good as "gksu update-manager -c" for kubuntu?06:38
zorglu_apokryphos: then i hope they will do a spec for it06:39
obowanghi06:39
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apokryphoszorglu_: I hope those issues are sorted out too, but the fact that it works very well with aria2 at the moment is more than reason enough to recommend that users use it.06:39
draikfdoving: my laptop is a full Kubuntu install, no partitions. WHere do I get the screen for recovery mode?06:39
fdovingEruantalon: no, that tool doesn't exist yet. if you have update-manager (from ubuntu) installed, you can run it with 'kdesu -- update-manager -c'06:39
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obowangwhat are minimun requeriments to install kubuntu 6.10?06:40
fdovingdraik: at boot, in the grub menu.06:40
zorglu_apokryphos: i think i got the source of our disagreement :) you got a much lower definition of what 'works' than me :)06:40
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draikfdoving: will do06:40
Eruantalonfdoving: Is there any reason not to do this seems a lot easier than the kubuntu way. By the way will this simple methods be implemented in feisty?06:40
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zorglu_for me a protocol which has issue, which has seriously bogus spec can't be said 'to work' :)06:41
apokryphoszorglu_: or just a very different one. You're asking what works on the coding/XML level, whereas what's really important for users is whether it does what you want it to, and doesn't kill bad things in theprocess.06:41
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zorglu_apokryphos: for you to work seems to be 'it doesn core dump' :)06:41
fdovingEruantalon: it's beeing implemented for feisty.06:41
zorglu_apokryphos: btw you said 'you will ask' ... you know those guys ? they are on irc?06:41
Eruantalongood06:41
obowangwhat are minimun requeriments to install kubuntu 6.10?06:41
apokryphoszorglu_: user process is quite simple: (i) I want to download an ISO, (ii) I want this fast, (iii) I don't want my computer to break because of it. (iv) I don't want other things to be ruined because of it.06:42
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Eruantalon!minimumrequirements06:42
apokryphoszorglu_: I speak to twanj (one of the lead guys) now and again, but he hasn't been on for a few days. I'm sure he'd love to speak to you though. Would you like his addy?06:42
draikfdoving: Thank you. I got it06:42
zorglu_apokryphos: yep i would love that. they are some good stuff. fixing is not hard. just some work to do06:42
zorglu_apokryphos: is he on irc ?06:43
fdovingEruantalon: for the livecd, 256MB RAM, installation needs around 2GB disk space.06:43
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strushi all06:43
zorglu_apokryphos: what is his nick ? i can put it on watchlist to know when he is there06:43
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apokryphoszorglu_: not at the moment. He comes on now and again though06:43
MossblaserHello! I am having problems installing the nVIDIA drivers for my graphics card, previously with ubuntu I simply needed to apt-get them with adept and then I could change the drivers to propriatary in the sytem settings screen, restart X and everything would work. Now for some reason no matter how i enable the drivers (through settings, configuration command thingy or manualy) I can still not get anything but i see the06:43
Mossblaserboot screen for a few secconds and then a flashing cursor, the only way to recover from the situation is to restore a backed up config file and i'm back to "square one", any ideas?06:43
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apokryphoszorglu_: he doesn't normally hang around in here though. I see him in #suse when he's in there06:43
Eruantalonobowang: Did you get that?06:43
apokryphoszorglu_: I do recommend emailing him though, and he'll probably come on then.06:43
obowangno06:44
zorglu_apokryphos: ok remember his nickname ?06:44
apokryphostwanj06:44
Eruantalonobowang  for the livecd, 256MB RAM, installation needs around 2GB disk space.06:44
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zorglu_ok thanks06:44
zorglu_apokryphos: quite informative this #kubuntu :)06:44
obowangand cpu?06:44
apokryphos8)06:44
obowangubuntu 6.10 + beryl only 256 mb?06:44
embrikI've forgot how to install java - I've downloaded jre-6-linux-i586-rpm.bin06:45
apokryphosmetalink support in kget will be really nice though :D06:45
zorglu_apokryphos: they have it i think06:46
strusi've problem with resolution, i'm traing to set 1280x800 (i use laptop lenovo n100) and i have a problem with this, i set the resolution into xorg.conf but when I start the Xserver i've only 1024x786, is here anyone who could help me to solve this problem?06:46
apokryphosI know code was being worked on a few weeks ago for it, but I haven't been following06:46
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zorglu_apokryphos: they already worked on it like 2-3month ago, so i guess it is done by now06:46
apokryphoss/weeks/months/, then, I guess. Time flies :)06:46
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apokryphoszorglu_: sounds good; I think I'll try it out soon.06:46
draikfdoving: I can't get in06:47
draikfdoving: It's taking the pw, it's about to load the splash screen and goes back to the login screen06:47
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draikfdoving: I can't even log in to the Console06:47
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jrifflewhere can i download kubuntu (herd3) using metalink06:51
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jrifflei have aria206:51
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Eruantalonwhat is aria2?06:52
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jrifflemetalink downloader06:53
draik!firewall06:53
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ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).06:54
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Eruantalon!metalink06:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about metalink - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:56
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exitushi all06:58
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jhutchinsjriffle: Somebody'd have to be serving it via metalink.  I don't know of any way to find available metalink downloads, never heard of metalink before.07:06
jhutchinsjriffle_: You'll get better DL rates from the mirrors than you will with bittorrent anyway.07:06
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darkblueanyone having problems with the new beryl update?07:06
EruantalonHmm the bittorrent is slow for me (alternate)07:07
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acfraziersame for me and the DVD07:08
theshadowI'm sorry but there isn't anyone in #ati thats responding. I'm trying to set my resolution above 1024x768 but everytime I try to set it with aticonfig --resolution=0,1280x1024 it says "screen0 does not exist" can anyone help me?07:08
Dr_willisdarkblue,  - a problem as in 'it crashes with some error' ? :)07:08
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acfraziereverytime I try and start X mine says no screen found07:09
acfrazierXD07:09
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Dr_willistheshadow,  check the xorg.conf - perhaps the screen is named screen1 or somthing.07:09
jriffle_jhutchins: its the other way around, bittorrent is 20K, mirror is 6-7K07:09
jriffle_jhutchins: both are too slow07:09
Dr_williswe need bittorrent mirrors! :)07:09
Eruantalonmy torrent is at 50 k now07:09
jhutchinsjriffle_: Find a better mirror.07:09
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acfraziermy download is 1mb/sec around there but I'm using a download accellerator in firefox..07:10
jhutchinsI typically get 200 - 300k.07:10
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theshadowDr_willis: which section should I be looking under?07:12
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Dr_willisthe screen or layout section would be my guess07:12
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theshadowDr_willis: kinda new to this. What would th line look like?07:13
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jriffle_jhutchins: that's what i'm looking for, mirrors for kubuntu herd307:13
Dr_willistheshadow,  not sure - ive never USED that specific tool.07:13
Dr_willisbut the screen section has an 'identifire' entry07:13
Dr_willisIdentifier     "Default Screen"07:14
Dr_willisis mine07:14
theshadowDr_willis: I have a line in "ServerLayout" that says Screen "Default Screen 0 007:14
theshadow"Default Screen"*07:14
Dr_willisyou may be able to use the kde tools to change the resolution now , if you have the ati drivers installed.07:14
Dr_willisPerhperials -> monitor & display07:14
theshadowDr_willis: they don't show anything above 1024x76807:14
Dr_willistheshadow,  you did install the ati/fglrx drivers?07:14
theshadowDr_willis: yea exactly as the instructions had them aaaat cchtml.com07:15
Dr_willisnever heard of that site.. i just use the !ati wiki page07:15
Dr_willis!ati07:15
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:15
Dr_willisactually im now ATI-Free :) so i dont even use that site any more07:15
Dr_willisim guessing that  aticonfig --resolution=0,1280x1024    , SOMEHOW can be told what 'screen name' to look for.07:16
Dr_williswhich in my confif file is called "Default Screen"07:16
Eruantalontheshadow: What do you have for your monitor in xorg.conf?07:17
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theshadowEruantalon: one sec07:17
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Dr_willisyou could put yoru whole xorg.conf to a pastebin site.07:17
Dr_willis!pastebin07:17
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)07:17
theshadowEruantalon: says generic monitor.07:18
draikfdoving: I get this error now when trying to update my packages:07:18
draikhttp://pastebin.ca/33878407:18
Eruantalontheshadow: That might be your problem. It doesn't recognise your monitor and assumes it is a low spec one07:18
EruantalonFind your specs for your monitor and put in the right specs07:19
theshadowEruantalon: ok07:19
draikAnyone else getting this error when trying to get updates: Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)     ?07:20
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fdovingdraik: looks like you have some proxy settings that doesn't work.07:21
inteliwaspwhat do i need to do to resove a rather fast clock on my box?07:22
jhutchinsinteliwasp: How fast?07:22
inteliwaspover time i have seen it become 30+ minutes fast07:22
JohnFluxinteliwasp: just turn on ntp07:23
JohnFluxinteliwasp: it learns if the clock is fast/slow and auto-adjusts it07:23
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inteliwaspi do have ntp on... still fast07:24
JohnFluxinteliwasp: right click on the clock, and chose adjust date and time07:24
draikfdoving: Hmmm... I don't recall anything with proxy changes07:24
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JohnFluxuh07:24
inteliwaspalready on07:24
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draikAFAIK, I don't touch anything with proxy settings07:24
jhutchinsinteliwasp: Read up on ntp then, check how it's running, why it's not keeping you in sync.07:24
draikWhat packages should I be looking for?07:25
inteliwaspjhutchins: got any links for configuring ntp?07:25
jhutchinsif your clock is getting 30 minutes ahead, ntp isn't working properly.07:25
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jhutchinshttp://www.ntp.org/ntpfaq/07:25
inteliwaspjhutchins: i gonna use my server as a local time server and use that for local ntp...07:26
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xndthello. i'm currently logged in on a laptop with kubuntu cd live and now i am trying to install it on hard drive. unfortunately i have windows installed on it and don;t wanna loose it. durring xp install, i've left 20 gb unpartitioned. now at ubuntu install, how can i set the root "/" partition? is it enough to type / in the label field from the create partition dialog ?07:26
inteliwaspjhutchins: thanks07:26
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xndtalso, do i have to set it active?07:26
jhutchinsMost people are using pool.ntp.org for their servers now; we've found there are reasons to use local routers.07:26
JohnFluxinteliwasp: in /etc/ntp.conf07:26
JohnFluxinteliwasp: do you have a drift file ?07:27
blekoshello, how can i associate torrents with ktorrent so they are automatically downloaded by it?07:27
jhutchinsinteliwasp: Your logs should show why it might not be working.07:27
yipemy kaffeine seems to be broken :( It crashes on opening07:27
Dr_willisxndt,  you mean you have 20gb of 'unallocated' space? or 20gb free on the windows C: drive?07:27
xndtDr_willis: unalocated :)07:27
draikfdoving: I searched for "proxy" in adept and found that I have SMPROXY installed. Remove it?07:27
inteliwaspjhutchins: there is a drift file listed but nothing in it07:28
fdovingdraik: no, it's not that.07:28
fdovingdraik: check /etc/apt/apt.conf for proxy settings.07:28
JohnFluxblekos: settings->configure konqueror -> file associations07:28
draikok07:28
blekosthnx07:29
draikfdoving: Nothing. Empty file07:29
Dr_willisxndt,  it 'should' be like /dev/hda2 then - actually i thought ht elive cd inrtaller had a check box for 'use unallocated space'07:29
draiknano /etc/apt/apt.conf07:29
Dr_willisxndt,  it shoudl then make 2 partitions one for swap and one for /07:29
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blekosi dont have a configure konqueror option...07:30
fdovingdraik: anything inside /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ about proxies?07:30
draikfdoving: Nope07:31
draikI'm going to restart and see if something starts up that shouldn't07:32
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xndtDr_willis: bear with me a little, please. here is the current setup: /dev/sda1:nfts, active /dev/sda2:extended and under sda2 i have sda5:ntfs and sda-1:free.07:33
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draikfdoving: Hmmm...07:33
draikfdoving: Whatever it was/is isn't running now. I got my updates07:34
xndtso here is what i`m doing: select the sda-1 partition, click create, set it as linux-swap and set its size 1000mb.07:34
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xndtnow select sda-1, create, set it ext3, label "/" and size was set by kubuntu installer to remaining 19000 mb\07:35
xndtis that label enough for the installer to know that there is the partition i want it to use?07:35
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xndtDr_willis ?07:37
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edu!winmodem07:37
ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto07:37
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draikDoes anyone here recommend a good firewall? I'm thinking about guarddog07:38
ben_mHey :) If I want to watch a video, I only get sound and no image, unless I open 2 videos, one of them has an image then ... any ideas why?07:39
JohnFluxdraik: for your own machine?07:39
draikJohnFlux: Yes07:39
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Eruantalonben_m: Using an ati card?07:39
ben_myes.07:39
fdovingxndt: setting the mountpoint to / is enought. the -label- really doesn't matter. the mountpoint matters.07:39
Eruantalonthought so. Using binary drivers or opensource?07:39
ben_mfglrx/radeon/ati all have the same problem07:39
Eruantalonok07:40
Eruantalonand you are using kaffeine?07:40
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xndtfdoving i don't have no 'mountpoint" option. currently i'm running the installer from the kubuntu live cd kde07:40
ben_mIt's on every player.07:40
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ben_mtried vlc and the gnome one too07:40
blekoscould someone tell my what's on his Kmenu? I think i'm missing a couple of things. I have 1.Graphics 2. Internet 3. Mutlimedia 4.office 5.settings [contains only firestarter] 6.system 7.utilities 8.add/remove 9.find 10.help 11.system settings 12.actions...07:40
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shadowhywindhay all, when i get this message "configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH"  what package needs to be installed?07:40
Eruantalonben_m: Bad drivers/cards are the cause of this. It can be helped though.07:40
fdovingxndt: ok. i can't recall what that looks like. so i'm sorry, i'm useless at this point.07:41
EruantalonOpen of kaffeine07:41
Eruantalonup07:41
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ben_mdid.07:41
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Eruantalonchoose xine paramaters07:41
Eruantalonvideo07:41
Eruantalonand select another driver.07:41
ben_mdone07:41
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ben_manyone?07:42
Eruantalontry xv for example.07:42
EruantalonI am not sure what are the pro and cons of each07:42
ben_mdoesn't work with xv.07:42
Eruantalonhmm07:42
Eruantalontry dxr307:42
EruantalonI don't have the problem here though07:43
ben_mCan't init new Video Driver dxr3 - using xv.07:43
Eruantalonhmm07:43
EruantalonWell xv is the problem anyways.07:43
xndthasn\t anyone here installed kubuntu on a drive with windows on it? PLEASE help07:44
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Eruantalonif you use totem try gstreamer-properties07:44
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juano__xndt: yes, what you need help with ?07:45
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xndti;ve booted the kubuntu CD, i am now in kde and i just ran the install application from the desktop07:45
xndtgot to partitioning but there is no option called SET MOuntpoint07:46
Eruantalonben_m: in gstreamer-properties you can select not to use xv and you can test right in hte window07:46
xndtor something like that, just LABEL07:46
juano__xndt: you should have a /root partition07:47
juano__xndt: you should make a root partition in unused space, dont touch the windows partition07:47
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Dr_willismountpoint would be called '/' i belive in the installer07:48
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Dr_willisI rarely use the live cd as an installer.07:48
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xndtjuano__, i click FREE partition, click create and a dialog pops up with: partition type:ext3, label, size, position(beginning of unalloc space or end of unaloc space), and percent of unallocated space07:49
xndtthat is all07:49
xndtno option to set it as root07:49
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xndtor mountpoint07:49
xndtor nothing07:49
xndtjust a LABEL field07:49
juano__xndt: after making it i believe you then edit the flags and mount07:49
xndtand if i right click the partition from the list, i have an option called SET ACTIVE07:50
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xndti've created it07:50
juano__xndt: whats the partitioner your running ?07:50
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xndtsomething graphic from kubuntu07:51
xndti dont know07:51
juano__xndt: name ? doesnt say ?07:51
xndtit was on the desktop under an icon called "install"07:51
xndtno\07:51
juano__xndt: yep, thats right, though it would tell the name07:51
juano__xndt: mm ok, well try editing that partition07:52
juano__xndt: what does mountpoint say ?07:52
xndtif i right click on it i have: property, format, delete and set active\07:52
juano__xndt: does it say "/"07:52
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xndtit doesn't say anywhere about the mountpoint07:52
juano__xndt: go to properties , in there ?07:53
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xndtif i click property, i get a popup message saying "this is a logical partition. it start at 245325 and end at blalal. it can grow from blabla to blakak. the FS is ext3"07:54
xndtthat's it07:54
bulldog_anyone use openchrome?07:54
xndtoh, the popup title of the property says "Qtparted"07:54
xndtif it's any help07:54
bulldog_i cant get more than 1024x768 out of it07:54
juano__xndt: sec07:55
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juano__xndt: any luck ?07:58
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xndtjuano__: http://www.hlds.ro/snapshot1.png08:01
xndtTHERE08:01
xndtis there something wrong with that setup?08:01
xndtand do you see a mountpoint?08:01
juano__xndt: ok, sec08:01
juano__xndt: seems fine, what does set active... prompt ?08:03
xndtare you sure you want to change the active part? yes/no08:04
xndtand sets Active from sda108:04
xndtunder status08:04
xndtand puts it next to sda708:04
juano__xndt: though i am confused... you are using the same extended partition for windows and linux ??08:04
xndti don't know?08:05
juano__xndt: that seems wrong, you shouldnt put the 2 partitions inside the blue08:05
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juano__xndt: at first i imagine you had sda1 and sda508:05
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bulldog_any gui for wpa_supplicant?08:05
juano__xndt: sda5 inside the blue lines (extended partition)08:05
xndtso what do i do? delete sda2?08:06
xndtand then create tree part all over?08:06
juano__xndt: no08:06
juano__xndt: try to leave it as it was before running the installer, paste me that pic08:06
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xndtwell it was the same when it was opened by the installer08:07
xndtexcept the last two, ext3 and linux-swap08:07
xndtwas just one, type FREE08:07
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xndtbut that free part was also in the blue square08:08
juano__xndt: what is sda5 ? XP ?08:08
carlhi08:08
xndtsda5 is D:08:08
xndtsda1 is C with xp08:09
juano__xndt: ok08:09
carlhow do I tell a program to start when KDE is up and running?08:09
xndtD; has some .. well, junk08:09
xndti can delete it if necesary\08:09
carli.e. aMSN...08:09
juano__xndt: well something that i think is wrong, is that you should put the linux partition outside that extended blue partition08:09
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xndtjeah but i can't do that unless i delete sda208:10
juano__xndt: you can resize it from windows08:10
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xndtan create sda2 ntfs, sda3 ext and sda4 swap08:10
xndtis it ok?08:10
xndtbut then again, even if i do that, i still won't have a mountpoint option08:10
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juano__xndt: the swap should be inside the extended08:10
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juano__xndt: only the swap08:11
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xndtok so:08:11
xndtsda2, ntfs primary08:11
juano__sda5 is ntfs08:11
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juano__sda2 is extended08:12
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setuid_w00tHi, I'm considering trying kubuntu.  I'm currently using Debian unstable and I have been for a few years.  Before I start, I'm wondering if there is anything I would probably miss from Debian by using kubuntu?  Can you think of anything that might annoy me about kubuntu?08:12
xndtif i choose extended, i won't be able to select the partition type: ext, swap etc08:12
xndtthis is so screwed up!08:13
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juano__i would resize the extended partition to make it as almost same size to cover up the sda508:13
juano__then i would reboot into live cd and install linux in ext3 type OUTSIDE the extended partition, and the swap partition INSIDE another ext partition08:13
juano__xndt: but before partitioning with livecd i would make more space on HDD, you should resize that D partition and make it smaller08:15
xndtwhat if i delete them all right nop08:16
xndtnow08:16
xndtexcept sda108:16
xndtand create them again?08:16
juano__xndt: youll lose all the data except whats in sda108:17
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xndtdoesn't matter08:17
xndtso08:17
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juano__xndt: you can delete yes the extended partition and remake partitions08:17
xndtright now i have sda1 ntfs and sda-1 free08:17
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juano__xndt: give me a pic with settings now08:18
xndtjust a sec\08:18
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xndtjuano__: http://www.hlds.ro/snapshot2.png08:21
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juano__xndt: ok seems fine08:22
juano__xndt: can you enter a "/" option to mountpoint now ?08:22
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xndtwhere?08:23
xndtthere's nothing like that08:23
juano__xndt: weird, i installed with gparted in gnome08:23
xndtjust active?08:23
juano__xndt: it said mountpoint : /  , etc08:23
juano__xndt: set active ...   or properties ???08:24
juano__xndt: click next maybe it prompts in next window for that08:25
xndtif i click property, i get a popup message08:25
xndtand active, sets it active08:25
juano__xndt: nothing in that message ?08:25
xndtwhat's that by the way?08:25
xndtnope08:25
juano__xndt: ok, try clicking next and tell me what you get08:25
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juano__xndt: active partition is a partition which is capable of booting that has an OS08:26
juano__xndt: you can only have 1 active partition08:26
xndtand is it ok if windows is the active?08:27
xndtok, i now got to the prepare mount points step :)08:27
juano__xndt: lol08:28
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juano__xndt: thats what we were lookin for08:28
xndtsda1 is /media/sda1 sda3 is / and sda4 is swap\08:28
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juano__xndt: perfect08:28
juano__xndt: whats sda2 too ?08:29
juano__xndt: /media/sda2 ?08:29
juano__xndt: you can configure it later though08:29
xndtsda2 is in the list but it's unformated08:29
xndtyeah that's what i left it08:29
juano__xndt: ahh right cause you deleted it08:29
juano__xndt: and your making it again08:29
juano__well everything seems fine then08:30
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juano__next -->08:30
xndtnope08:30
xndtInstall :D08:30
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xndtwhen it's done, i'll have to reboot and if i don't come back in 5 mins, something went wrong :D08:31
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juano__xndt: ok :-) good luck08:32
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nagyv!freedroidrpg08:35
ubotwoSorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/08:35
jmichaelx!compiz08:35
ubotwoCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects08:35
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rEvolution27how do i check how much free space is left on a partition?08:39
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philliprEvolution27: df08:40
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fooWhat's the default keyboard shortcuts for switching desktops?08:42
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rEvolution27thanks... are there any disk clean up and disk defrag utilities08:43
SeanTaterrEvolution27: they are not needed08:43
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rEvolution27really08:43
SeanTaterrEvolution27: at least not for linux file systems08:43
rEvolution27someone told me there was a clean up that removed left over files from software installs08:44
rEvolution27guess you're right though08:44
SeanTaterrEvolution27: that's apt, not the disk08:44
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SeanTaterrEvolution27: the file system does not need to be defragged,  but you can save a small amount of space by removing unneeded configuration files.08:45
rEvolution27ok08:45
SeanTaterrEvolution27: If you have a large hard disk, the saved space is usually neglegible08:46
rEvolution27thanks08:46
SeanTaterrEvolution27: yw08:46
rEvolution27i can't believe how much i've installed and how little space has been used08:47
Dr_willisyou can save a large amount of space by removing those extra video files.. you dont want others to know about. :)08:47
rEvolution27lol08:47
rEvolution27that's on my windows partition ;)08:47
juano__rEvolution27: yea , its funny that you can have so much on linux and use so little lol08:48
rEvolution27yeh08:48
juano__rEvolution27: never happens on windows08:48
lervajust installed kubuntu today... first time ever using linux. so some very newie questions coming... I want to install firefox, so how can I do it?08:48
rEvolution27anybody know a good vidoe screen capture program?08:48
nagyvlerva: have you ever used the console?08:48
SeanTaterlerva: Try opening adept08:48
lervawith add/remove programs I can't do it...08:48
lervawell.. i have used unix on uni and so on08:49
rEvolution27adept worked for me08:49
nagyvlerva: what error message do you get?08:49
aibare some update servers down? "0% [Waiting for headers] " is all I get08:49
SeanTaterlerva: adept should be in the system menu.. it has a list of programs you can install, choose to install firefox and press apply changes08:49
juano__lerva: alt + F2 , konsole, sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox08:49
lervaI can't select programs from adept. just gray unselectable boxes. I have put the root user password08:50
SeanTaterjuano__: shouldn't a newbie at least /start/ with the GUI?08:50
SeanTaternvm, gtg08:50
aibsince I can't install `nmap', how can I determine what ports are open?08:50
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nagyvlerva: try juano__'s advice08:51
juano__SeanTater: well , thats a good question, but if he installed linux we should introduce him to the free software environment which inculdes a terminal, i think hes had enough GUI with windows08:52
juano__SeanTater: hehe... well for first starters its ok08:52
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juano__SeanTater: but he shouls learn terminal though, dont forget kubuntu / ubuntu is linux :-)08:53
lervajuano_: It says (In Finnish, I translated): Packet mozilla-firefox not available, but other packets is refering to that. This could meen that packet is missing, is old or available from some other source. E: Packet mozilla-firefox has no installable selection.08:53
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juano__lerva: sudo apt-get install firefox08:54
draikWhere does Kopete save the history logs?08:54
lervajuano_ same problem...08:54
draiklerva: what is your problem?08:55
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lervaI can't install any programs08:55
juano__lerva: mm, repos problem maybe, try kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list and pastebin that please08:55
juano__!pastebin | lerva08:55
ubotwolerva: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)08:55
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draikWhat do you mean by "can't install"08:56
draikit won't get the repos, do you get a specific error... ?08:56
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lervajuano_ : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4011/08:57
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frojnddoes anyone know how to get inverted color in krita08:57
juano__lerva: ok just a sec08:57
lervadraik: gray boxes (unselectable) if I try through "Add/Remove Programs" and it didn't work through konsole either.08:58
frojndnevermind :)08:58
lervajuano, np, thanks08:58
draiklerva: Try one at a time.08:58
draiklerva: I prefer konsole/Yakuake just because I love CLI08:58
juano__lerva: ok try this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4012/08:58
juano__lerva: replace the contents of that file with this one, then run sudo apt-get update08:59
draiklerva: check your source.list for hashes (#)08:59
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draikyou may have hash'd your repo08:59
juano__draik: yeah, i uncommented the repos for him08:59
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draikDoes anybody here know where to find the history file/list from Kopete chats?09:00
draikThank you juano__09:00
ichmoin09:00
ichgod bye09:00
lervajuano and draik, ok it started updating09:00
nagyv!ubuntuguide.org09:00
ubotwoSorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/09:00
lervanow ready09:00
draiklerva: Then that was your issue, hash'd repos09:00
apokryphosdraik: ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete/09:00
draikThank you apokryphos09:01
lervaoh, I no idea what that means, but now everything works! thanks guys!09:01
nagyvlerva: for similar small "tricks" you can look at ubuntuguide.org, they have plenty of useful info what/how to install.09:01
nagyvlerva: and good luck with you new kubuntu! :)09:01
lervayeah. I like this very much09:02
nagyv!repositories09:02
ubotwoThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource09:02
juano__lerva: good, sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox should work now09:02
nagyv!repositories | lerva09:02
ubotwolerva: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource09:02
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lervaonly prob is that kubuntu install broke my windows xp home.. I tried to put they side by side... but I don't mind that much... I probably will format that other section too for linux09:03
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ubuntu_hay all i need some serious help09:04
ubuntu_Some how or another my linux partition become, whats the word.. DELETED!09:04
ubuntu_I need a program, that i can use to recover data, any ideas?09:04
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draikubuntu_: graverobber?09:06
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ubuntu_is that in the repos? any chance09:07
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willwhat's the command to format a disk in fat32?09:09
eMish_Hello.  In sources.list, is 'deb URL edgy main restricted\ndeb URL edgy main universe' same as 'deb URL edgy main restricted universe' ?09:09
eMish_will: maybe mformat09:09
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eMish_will: it's mkfs.vfat09:09
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willI'm a newbie.  so do I just type mkfs.vfat into the command line?  do I need to assign the drive (which is at /media/sda5).  it's an external usb drive btw09:10
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rEvolution27ummm guys my taskbar just dissapeared09:11
rEvolution27oh nvm it came back... how weird09:12
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makuserui want a freedom toaster09:15
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james_xxx!compiz09:15
ubotwoCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects09:15
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will!fat3209:16
ubotwoTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse09:16
will!partition09:17
ubotwoPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter09:17
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will!gParted09:17
ubotwogparted is gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "sudo apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php09:17
will!Qtparted09:18
ubotwoSorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/09:18
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will!QTParted09:18
rEvolution27this is funny.... the reason my taskbar was dissapearing is that when i was changing the number of desktops in beryl i accidentally slided to something like 2000... my both my cpu's were at 100%09:18
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willwhen you request something at the command prompt that produces an output that is longer than the screen, what is the command to make it pause before scrolling09:27
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draikHow do you make k3b burn hidden files?09:28
draikI'm trying to do a full backup of what is in /home/(user)/ and it only did the visible files, not hidden09:29
rEvolution27help! i have 56 desktops and my mouse is frozen.. how do i get rid of them?09:29
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angasulerEvolution27: kill X?09:30
willys_fueguinoIs it possible to make the right click open the k menu?? where??09:30
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rEvolution27umm but when i restart x won't i have all those desktops?09:31
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draikis Keep any good?09:31
draik!backup09:31
ubotwoThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning09:31
esaymI am looking for some info on fstab.  I know the last  option in each fstab line is for the "fsck pass" and it can have a value of 0, 1, or 209:31
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esaymI can't get any info as to what to use though09:32
esaymI understand a value of 0 means the the drive will never get checked09:32
willys_fueguinoMy taskbar has vanished... I restarted X and it stil disappeared09:32
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sampanwillys_fueguino  do you want a right-click on the desktop to bring up the kmenu?  if so, system settings (or kcontrol) --> desktop --> behavior and then you can set your left/right/middle mouse clicks to whatever you like09:32
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esaymand I read that you want your root drive to have a value of 1 and the other partitions a value of 209:32
esaymCan anyone explain these more to me though09:33
esaymI am wanting to make it so when fsck runs on one partition that it runs on them all09:33
Dr_williswhat it 'should' do is fsck the drives that are seperate drives  at the same time.09:33
esaymI have read that you can do that but nothing explains how09:34
Dr_willisfscking hda1 and hda2 at the same time - is not a good idea09:34
esaymhmm09:34
Dr_willisfscking hda1 and hdb1 at same time - is doable.. and i THINK how it works by default09:34
esaymwell that makes since09:34
ubuntu__anyone have ideas for data recovery programs?09:34
Dr_willisof course if you properly shut down and so forth - you shoudl rarely hgave to fsck.09:34
willys_fueguinosampan: ufff... that shows that I'm a total n00b with kde....09:34
esaymso just keep the values of root as 1 and the other drives and partitions as 2?09:35
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sampanwillys_fueguino   no worries :)  lots of settings and i get lost in them too sometimes :D09:35
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srednahi09:35
willys_fueguinoanyway.. it's a temporary solutuiin 'cause I've lost my panel09:35
srednawould something terrible happen if i delete /usr/sbin/apt-index-watcher ?09:35
srednait's making my computer unusable09:36
sampani think i spent 2 hours looking for how to turn off the bouncy icons 2 weeks ago :/09:36
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schwarzhtestzeile09:39
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schwarzhguten abend09:40
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willanyone know how to pause outputs at the command prompt that take up more than a screen can take09:40
firecrotchwill: just stick " | less" on the end of your command, like this: ls /home/will | less09:41
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srednawhy it /usr/sbin/apt-index-watcher running every few seconds, taking up as much CPU as it can?09:51
srednawhat will happen if i delete it?09:51
srednaor is there a way i can prevent it from running except on sundays?09:52
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Dr_willis!find apt-index09:52
ubotuFound: apt-index-watcher09:52
Dr_willis!info apt-index-watcher09:52
ubotuapt-index-watcher: Updater for apt-front indexes. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.9ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 698 kB, installed size 1972 kB09:52
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Dr_willisOptional.. Hmm...09:52
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srednai renamed it to ANNOYING, and the world is still standing, Dr_willis09:55
agusalgun espaol?09:55
Skrot!es09:55
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.09:55
zorglu_one have to fix the linux /dev/random :)09:55
zorglu_this stuff is so slow.09:56
zorglu_or i have to use openssl, to use /dev/urandom :)09:56
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zorglu_or maybe the user will accept to wait for 20min to have his apps running ? :)))))))009:57
eguzkiahello someone know how to install nvidia glx?09:57
zorglu_!nvidia| eguzkia09:57
ubotueguzkia: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:57
zorglu_eguzkia: have you looked at this ?09:57
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d0dgeHow can I mount .img file in linux?09:58
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Minatakud0dge: mount -o loop filename.img /mount/point09:58
zorglu_hmm bchunk i thing09:58
MinatakuProviding the default Kubuntu provides loopback support09:59
zorglu_oh09:59
zorglu_wow09:59
zorglu_what is this .img format ?09:59
MinatakuRaw disk image09:59
zorglu_go /dev/random, i am with you09:59
d0dgeMinataku: "you must specify the filesystem type"09:59
zorglu_Minataku: sure but what produce it09:59
Minatakuzorglu_: If it came from a Linux system probably "dd"09:59
zorglu_hue ???10:00
Minatakud0dge: Type "file filename.img"10:00
MinatakuIf that fails, get this package:10:00
Minataku!disktype10:00
ubotudisktype: detection of content format of a disk or disk image. In component universe, is optional. Version 9-1 (edgy), package size 37 kB, installed size 136 kB10:00
zorglu_so there is a guy who did a dd and put .img ? :)10:00
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MinatakuThen run that against it10:00
zorglu_a smart one :)10:00
Minatakuzorglu_: I do it all the time10:00
zorglu_Minataku: well you should put .ext2 or .iso or etc...10:00
MinatakuSame with mounting and writing, raw disk images are awesome10:00
Minatakuzorglu_: Negative10:01
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zorglu_well we disagree :)10:01
MinatakuExtensions are for puny humans10:01
zorglu_i see :)10:01
MinatakuNot for file type identification :310:01
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zorglu_well filename are made to identify the file content :)10:01
Minatakudisktype is a great util10:01
zorglu_it is my weird belief :)10:01
MinatakuI recommend that far above putting loads of metadata into the filename10:02
zorglu_that and the fact that /dev/random should be fixed as soon as possible :)10:02
zorglu_lets fire tso10:02
Minatakuzorglu_: /dev/random is incapable of breaking10:02
Dr_willisBeOs had so much meta-data that often the metadata was larger then the actual file. :)10:02
MinatakuPerhaps it's empty?10:02
zorglu_Minataku: believe me it is :)10:02
zorglu_Minataku: since feb06 or so10:02
MinatakuWithout a TRNG then /dev/random is filled with stray random things from random places10:03
rEvolution27sigh.. help me... beryl says i have one desktop, configure desktop says i have one desktop but the taskbar is displaying 3210:03
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MinatakuIf you want a constant supply but with slightly less random there's always /dev/urandom10:03
MinatakuSince /dev/random is a trickle-filled entropy pool10:03
zorglu_nope because i rely on gnutls/gcrypt and those are not flexible enougth to use /dev/urandom :)10:04
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MinatakuThen go out and buy a TRNG10:04
zorglu_sure :)10:04
jbruckmanhey can anyone help me mount my USB mp3 player? I'm having some difficulties....10:04
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MinatakuThey sell RNG generators10:04
MinatakuI'm not joking10:04
Minatakus/generators//10:04
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zorglu_yep and how does this fix my problem ? :)10:04
jbruckmani've tried mount -t vfat <device> <location> but it gives me an error10:05
jmichaelxa while ago , i set up beryl to run using xgl in kubuntu with an nvidia graphics card..... i then decided to switch to aiglx, and i followed the instructions in the ubuntu docs.... now X will not start, would anyone have a suggestion?10:05
Minatakuzorglu_: It ensures that /dev/random is constantly full10:05
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MinatakuThe random psuedodevice is not broken, it's a trickle-filled entropy pool10:05
zorglu_Minataku: well lets suppose they dont break it up to this point, i cant ask everybody using my code to buy this :)10:05
MinatakuAs such, heavy use of it will empty it10:05
zorglu_Minataku: the error is in 'heavy' :) just a 768bit rsa key gen take more than 10min10:06
zorglu_and ticking10:06
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Minatakuzorglu_: Then provide the option to use the psuedorandom generator rather than the random pool10:06
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zorglu_hhe you are not listening :)10:06
zorglu_ohhhhhhh it did it :)10:06
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zorglu_so at least 12min to generate a single 768bit rsa key :) sure it is not broken :)10:07
zorglu_jbruckman: shoot10:07
kyoHello everybody10:08
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jbruckmanzorglu_: okay, so I have tried the following,a nd i know that the device is sde. sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sde /media/usb10:08
jbruckmanzorglu_: however, i get a bad superblock error, even though i know it's a vfat drive10:08
Dr_willisi bet its NOT /dev/sde10:08
Dr_willisperhaps /dev/sde110:08
fernando__I have a notebook with a AMD64 +4000 that under windows, if I compile the processor run full power but under kubuntu, as example I compile the wxwidgets library and its need so long, and its clear that the processor do not run full power, because even I can hear the fun.. what is wrong??10:09
jbruckmanno.10:09
Dr_willissudo fdisk -l /dev/sde10:09
Dr_willisand see.10:09
jbruckmanit's sde, i tried sde1, nothing happens.10:09
Minatakuzorglu_: You're not listening. Type this in a terminal and read: "man 4 random"10:09
zorglu_Minataku: :))))))))10:09
MinatakuYou're not listening to me explain how the random device works10:09
MinatakuSo please read for yourself10:09
Dr_willissudo fdisk -l - look at all the partitions. also plug/unplug/plug and check dmesg output for info on what its seen as.10:09
kyoWHO SPEAK FRENCH HERE?10:09
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Dr_willis!fr10:09
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.10:09
zorglu_Minataku: well on the other hand i already know very well how it work :)10:09
Dr_willisubotu,  does. :)10:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about does. :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:09
jbruckmandmesg | tail shows that it is seen as sde.10:10
zorglu_kenws: and caps are not needed10:10
Minatakuzorglu_: Then you'd know that it's not broken at all10:10
jbruckmanthere's no sde1 partition.10:10
MinatakuIt's merely rather slow due to the way it works to provide true random data10:10
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jbruckmangot it.10:10
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zorglu_Minataku: well we disagree :) us discussing the matter wont change it10:10
Dr_willisjbruckman,  the only thing ive ever seen show up as a /dev/sde or so forth was cdrom drives..10:10
jbruckmanokay, so it was a hardware thing.10:10
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Dr_willis:)10:11
fernando__ I have a notebook with a AMD64 +4000 that under windows, if I compile the processor run full power but under kubuntu, as example I compile the wxwidgets library and its need so long, and its clear that the processor do not run full power, because even I can hear the fun.. what is wrong??10:11
jbruckmananywho. thanks.10:11
Minatakuzorglu_: I think it's safe to say you won't get the assistance you want without a hardware TRNG10:11
elyon225Hey, guys.  Where is the K-menu information stored? I'm trying to sync my menu with the other users on the system, but I can't find the config file for the menus.10:11
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Dr_williselyon225,  its generated from all the .desktop entrys on the system and somewhere in the users .kde dir also i belive10:12
MinatakuSince you don't/refuse to understand that the random device works in a specific way that is indeed slow to provide properly random data10:12
elyon225Dr_willis: Well, I've looked in /.kde/ but I couldn't find anything.10:12
MinatakuThe fix to your problem is either obtain a hardware TRNG or use the psuedorandom device10:12
jmichaelxis it possible to access an external HD from the command line?10:13
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MinatakuOr, alternately, simply wait for the device to refill the pool or allow the process to take place during key generations10:13
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jmichaelxmy external HD is listed as 'WD USB 2' under /media, but i cannot access any directories on that drive. would anyone know why?10:14
jmichaelxvia the command line, i mean10:14
MinatakuAnd there's no disagreeing with this, if you say you know how the random device works you would know this, "disagreeing" just means you don't care and it should magically work the way you say it should otherwise it's broken10:15
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jmichaelxMinataku: you seem to know a lot.... how would i access dir's on an external usb HD using the command line?10:16
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Minatakujmichaelx: Is the external HDD mounted?10:16
jmichaelxMinataku: good question10:17
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MinatakuIt could be that it made the directory in /media however failed to actually mount the drive10:17
jmichaelxwould that be 'sudo mount /media/WD USB 2'?10:18
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jmichaelxoh no10:18
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MinatakuIt actually made the directory with spaces in it?10:18
jmichaelxwell, i wondered if that was the problem, but yes10:18
MinatakuWell10:18
MinatakuTry this10:18
Minataku"sudo mount /dev/whateverthedriveis /media/WD\ USB\ 210:19
MinatakuThose \s are important10:19
jmichaelxhow do i know what to type for 'whateverthedriveis'?10:19
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Minatakujmichaelx: Another good question10:19
MinatakuUnplug it, wait 10s, plug it back in, wait 10s then type "dmesg | tail" and pastebin it10:20
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jmichaelxit isn't worth it10:20
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MinatakuWell, if that's too hard to do10:21
jmichaelxi just wanted to backup my /home as i am going to have to reinstall10:21
MinatakuLook in /dev for entries starting with "sd"10:21
MinatakuBut if there are several then we'll have to pinpoint10:21
jmichaelxi looked, but is there a way to scan through the output?10:22
Dr_willisthe whole automountign systems are geting smarter and dumber at th same times!10:22
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Minatakujmichaelx: Well, type dmesg | less and look for it talking about the HDD10:22
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MinatakuIt should be there somewhere after all the confusing crap at the top, so start at the bottom and work upwards10:23
MinatakuUnless it was plugged in when you booted, in which case start at the top and work downwards10:23
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Minatakuzorglu_: Sorry for getting short with you, BTW10:24
jmichaelxMinataku: it is quite ok...10:24
jmichaelxoops10:24
jmichaelxi thought you meant me10:24
Minatakujmichaelx: No, I haven't gotten angry at you... yet10:25
MinatakuXD10:25
jmichaelxquestion.... should an SMP kernel be used with a non-SMP motherboard?10:25
MinatakuIt's perfectly fine10:25
MinatakuIt'll see that there's only one CPU and switch to UP mode10:25
jmichaelxok, i was trying to ge beryl working, and i wound up with a broken X10:25
jmichaelxnow i'm screwed10:25
MinatakuThat's why default/LiveCD kernels are all SMP by default10:25
jmichaelxi see10:26
Minatakujmichaelx: Can always uninstall both then reinstall10:26
jmichaelxunstall what?10:26
MinatakuBeryl and X1110:26
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jmichaelxok.... i will uninstall beryl.... but i don't think that is what did it.... i had beryl working with XGL, but decided to switch to AIGLX, and that is where the trouble began10:27
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MinatakuWell, undo what you did then10:28
MinatakuWork backwards, and leave Beryl for now10:28
jmichaelxwhen you follow the docs, they have you add a repo, and install newer drivers... it also updates the kernel, and so on....10:28
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MinatakuHm10:28
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jmichaelxwell, i would undo it all, but i don't know how to get back to the kernel i had to start out with (if that might be the problem)10:28
fernando__ I have a notebook with a AMD64 +4000 that under windows, if I compile the processor run full power but under kubuntu, as example I compile the wxwidgets library and its need so long, and its clear that the processor do not run full power, because even I can hear the fun.. what is wrong??10:28
MinatakuIt's more than likely still there10:29
jmichaelxMinataku: i think i'm screwed.....10:29
Minatakujmichaelx: When you boot, the old kernel probably still has an entry, if Kubuntu deletes the old kernel or even it's entry when you update then that's a really, really stupid thing they're doing10:30
Minatakufernando__: I'm sorry, but I can't understand your question10:30
jmichaelxi know a little about linux and usually have no problems.... i am sure there is a way to fix all of them, but i don't know how lol10:31
jmichaelxif i had just stayed with XGL , i would be fine10:31
jmichaelxthere is probably no chance that just re-installing XGL would help me, is there?10:32
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MinatakuIt could10:33
fernando__minataku: my processor am64 runs full power if is needed under windows10:33
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Minatakujmichaelx: Worth a shot, uninstall AIGLX and reinstall XGL10:33
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fernando__minataku: but in kubuntu it never runs full power10:33
MinatakuKinda follow the docs backwards if you changed any conf files10:33
Minatakufernando__: Ah, I see now, sorry about that10:33
MinatakuThat's bizarre, are you positive it's running slower in Linux?10:34
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fernando__minataku: yes, actually I can even hear the fun10:34
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Minatakufernando__: I'm not sure I know how to help with that, sorry >.<10:35
fernando__minataku thanks any way..10:36
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juano__fernando__: installed with x86_64 ?10:37
fernando__juano: what do you mean?10:38
fernando__juano: I have install kubuntu for amd64 if is that what you mean..10:39
juano__fernando__: yes10:39
juano__fernando__: with the x86_64 isos10:39
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jmichaelxMinataku: i think the external drive is 'sda'10:40
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jmichaelxi tried to mount it, but it says i need to specify the filesystem10:40
fernando__juano: exist only 3 version of kubuntu.. and I have the compatible with amd6410:40
MinatakuWhat the... does kubuntu disable mount from automatically checking what the filesystem is?!10:40
Minatakujmichaelx: Try sda1 instead10:41
jmichaelxok10:41
jmichaelxty10:41
MinatakuThat should correspond to the first partition10:41
fernando__juano: do you know any tools to see the current velocity of my processor?10:41
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elyon225How would I go about converting a .daa to .iso?10:43
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Minatakuelyon225: Depends... what's .daa?10:43
jendaQuiz in #ubuntu-trivia in a few minutes! Prize for winner: Ubuntu (K/X/Edu) stickers!10:43
jenda:)10:43
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elyon225Minataku: It's an image format (nero can read it)10:43
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Minatakuelyon225: Well, you'd probably need some bizarre converter that doesn't exist10:44
MinatakuOr get a friend with Nero to convert it10:44
elyon225hmm10:44
MinatakuI've never heard of .daa10:44
MinatakuRun file on it10:44
elyon225.daa is really popular in Windows.10:44
Minatakufile -zrk whatever.daa10:44
MinatakuTell me what it spits out10:44
elyon225Minataku: Just "data"10:45
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Minatakuelyon225: Damn, then it's some stupid-ass proprietary format10:45
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elyon225daa stands for Direct Access Archive, by the way.10:46
MinatakuSounds like crap10:46
Minatakulol10:46
elyon225hmm... apparently PowerISO can read it (the Windows version can, anyway). Isn't there a Linux version too?10:46
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Dr_willisNot that ive seen10:47
MinatakuLook for info on it10:47
elyon225yep... found it :)10:47
MinatakuGoogle is your friend, see if DAA is just some stupid "container"10:47
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MinatakuKinda like how Nero images are just ISO with crap injected every so often10:47
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elyon225oh yeah... the little .nrg files ;)_10:48
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elyon225Minataku: Well, poweriso works well :)10:50
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Dr_willis!find poweriso10:50
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MinatakuI'd rather slap the ass who made it DAA in the first place10:50
Dr_willis!find kiso10:50
ubotuPackage/file poweriso does not exist in edgy10:50
ubotuFound: mkisofs, kiso10:50
elyon225Kind of like reinventing the wheel... over and over and over again.10:50
zorglu_q. i have a new user, and i would like to put it in the 'sudoers', when i try sudo with this user i got the message "is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported."10:50
elyon225.ISO is a perfect format...leave it alone.10:50
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MinatakuIndeed10:51
MinatakuUse something everyone is capable of operating with10:51
MinatakuNot retarded proprietary formats10:51
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MinatakuYou'd think warez groups would honor that10:51
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MinatakuWhat the hell do they need copy protection for, right? XD10:51
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Dr_willisThey are too busy putting 5k zips into rars, then password protecting them10:52
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Dr_willisand then splitting the rars10:52
MinatakuNah, I've never had a pirate release that was passworded10:52
MinatakuSplit like all hell, yes10:52
MinatakuUsually because they were originally released on usenet10:53
Dr_willisi see the lame stuff on torrents all the time.10:53
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MinatakuOr they're just split to be low-bandwith friendly10:53
elyon225Okay, so now how do I extract an iso?  I thought ark could do it, but I was wrong.10:53
Dr_willisand the various game-copy/nocd sites always got things packed oddly.10:53
Dr_willisyou can MOUNT an .iso10:53
Minatakuelyon225: You can mount it10:53
Dr_willis!iso10:53
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn10:53
MrMagiczorglu_: add the user to the admin group10:53
elyon225oh yeah.... thanks guys.10:53
zorglu_sudo adduser myfavoriteuser admin <- was my andwer :)10:53
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MinatakuHm10:54
Minataku!is10:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:54
zorglu_MrMagic: yep meanwhile i did it :)10:54
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elyon225man, I love Linux lol10:54
MrMagic:=)10:54
zorglu_we need fancy 3d coders :)10:55
zorglu_to add eyes candy to the death :)10:55
Minataku...10:55
Dr_willisDeath by Eye candy!10:55
MinatakuThat's the last thing anyone needs10:55
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zorglu_see :)10:55
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zorglu_that's the issue, people doesnt understand what a 'user' likes :)10:56
MinatakuDr_willis: I look one look at a Vista screenshot and my eye teeth fell out10:56
Minataku*rimshot*10:56
zorglu_and believe me a 'user' LOVE 3d eyecandy10:56
zorglu_window knows that, but linux doesnt get it :)10:56
Minatakuzorglu_: I'm a 'user' and I ??????? _HATE_ bullplop eyecandy garbage10:56
zorglu_nope10:56
zorglu_you are a geek10:56
MrMagicsame here :)10:56
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zorglu_likely an admin10:56
Minataku... Point.10:57
Minatakulol10:57
MinatakuI'm an engineer(ing student)10:57
MinatakuFunction over form10:57
MinatakuVery few exceptions10:57
zorglu_in computer ?10:57
zorglu_or math or physic10:58
Little_EagleIf Linux doesn't do eye candy why are there projects like compiz and beryl?10:58
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HymnToLifezorglu_, you sense of nuance thrills me...10:58
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Minatakuzorglu_: Computer Engineering Technology is my major10:58
Dr_willisLittle_Eagle,  and dont forget that Mettis  'thing' as well.10:58
VincentMXdoes AmaroK have an equalizer?10:58
Dr_willisMettis actually had some useable eyecandy10:58
zorglu_Minataku: see not  a 'user' :)10:58
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zorglu_Little_Eagle: yep beryl is definitly the good direction10:58
whoopydoodiehello everyone10:59
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whoopydoodiehow do I change my resolution (intel 945GM)10:59
zorglu_oh lets me find a video of what linux need :)10:59
MinatakuToo bad it looks like crap and cooks up graphics cards like they were delicious strips of bacon10:59
Little_EagleVincentMX: Yes.  It does.10:59
MinatakuMmmm... bacon10:59
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VincentMXLittle_Eagle: where?10:59
HymnToLifezorglu_, do you seriously think the millions of people in the world who use a computer like the very same thing ?10:59
Dr_willisBaccony!10:59
elyon225Hmm... is there a limit to how many files that can be shown when mounting an ISO?  Because I'm missing about a third of the ISO10:59
ubuntuHi xorix10:59
HymnToLifeyou're laughable10:59
Dr_williselyon225,  not that i am aware of.10:59
VincentMXnm found it10:59
whoopydoodieanyone?10:59
Dr_williselyon225,  it should work like any other filesystem.10:59
zorglu_HymnToLife: well me and all marketing study :)10:59
ooglabooglai just installed kubuntu on my laptop and the networkmanager shows no connection, i'm however talking to you now from that connection11:00
Minatakuelyon225: The only time limits come into play is when you're making an ISO with mkisofs11:00
ooglabooglaneat trick eh11:00
elyon225Dr_willis: That what I would think too.11:00
MinatakuWhich is a pain in the ass11:00
ooglabooglaany ideas on what to check11:00
Minatakuooglaboogla: Nothing11:00
MinatakuIt's working11:00
MinatakuDon't touch it :311:00
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ooglabooglathat 'not connected' is annoying can i remove knetwork manager11:00
elyon225Dr_willis: Unless of course using PowerISO to convert the file corrupted it somehow... but I doubt that.11:00
MinatakuSure, just kill it11:00
zorglu_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0ODskdEPnQ&mode=related&search= <- there!!!! look at that!!! and try to convince kde and/or gnome to go in this direction !!!11:00
Little_EagleVincentMX: Tools -> Equilizer11:00
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Dr_willisooglaboogla,  you are using a wireless network?11:01
ooglabooglaDr_willis: yes11:01
zorglu_HymnToLife: laugth at me while looking at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0ODskdEPnQ&mode=related&search=11:01
ooglabooglaright after i rebooted i could click on the icon and see the available networks. now nothing shows up11:01
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zorglu_this stuff is closesource btw :)11:01
h3sp4wnzorglu_: Is those images of your application ?11:01
zorglu_h3sp4wn: nope :)11:02
Dr_willisBumptop - just seesm soooooooooooooo Unuseable...11:02
ooglabooglaalso another matter. is it safe to blacklist ipv611:02
Dr_willismore like a game..  then a way to manage files.11:02
h3sp4wnzorglu_: I don't have flash so11:02
zorglu_h3sp4wn: i whish tho :) i dont do guy11:02
Minatakuooglaboogla: Why?11:02
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ooglaboogladon't need it and it slows my connection way down11:02
zorglu_Dr_willis: well show that to your mother or your sister or anybody which is not a computer personn, then show her linux...11:03
h3sp4wnooglaboogla: Maybe you want the !ipv6 factoid11:03
zorglu_Dr_willis: then come back :)11:03
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Dr_willisThey will think its a game.11:03
Minataku!ipv611:03
ubotuTo disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv411:03
Minatakulol11:03
zorglu_Dr_willis: well do it :)))))11:03
Dr_willisso ya got to sort the things in different piles? thats it?11:03
Dr_willis:)11:03
h3sp4wnnothing about how to use it (stupid as that may be)11:03
zorglu_Dr_willis: that's it :)11:03
Dr_willisof course bumptop - seems ideally suited for the tornado layout of the windows filesystem.11:04
zorglu_Dr_willis: seriously show that to your mother/sister etc... and ask them if they find it better :)11:04
Little_Eaglezorglu_: Now that's useless stuff...11:04
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Dr_williswindows rants about you deleting a special dir.. but ya can accidently move and it wont mind..11:04
crazy_penguin'night all11:04
zorglu_Little_Eagle: same as Dr_willis, show that to your mother and ask her opinion11:05
Dr_willisgo test out that Mandrive-Mettis Live cd - it has some 'eyecandy' thats actually useable..11:05
MinatakuWindows is like "Don't delete that!" then does it anyway11:05
Dr_williszorglu_,  they will say it looks like some silly game.11:05
zorglu_Dr_willis: dont presume :)11:05
Dr_willisReminds me of that "Black and White" game.11:05
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Dr_williszorglu_,  lets just presume you need a pinch.11:05
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Minatakurofl11:06
flaviahi, what's the regular way to configure a usb modem? I mean something like pppoeconf for ethernet modems11:06
Dr_willisBlack and White... hmm.. that was a fun game11:06
MinatakuYou don't pinck kidneys11:06
zorglu_Dr_willis: well i tried :)11:06
Dr_willisThrowing rocks and so forth.11:06
larson9999not a bad desktop.  at least it's not a repackaging of the same old thing.  still don't know i'd prefer it over my current desktop11:06
MinatakuYou punch them11:06
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MinatakuI use Fluxbox11:06
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MinatakuI didn't even look at that link and judging by the reactions, I'm glad I didn't11:06
Dr_willis!info twin11:06
ubotutwin: a Text mode WINdow environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1-3 (edgy), package size 422 kB, installed size 1444 kB11:06
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MinatakuMy eyes probably would have gone into a diabetic shock11:07
Minataku!fluxbox11:07
ubotufluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox11:07
Dr_willisMinataku,  its a video clip of a 'prototype' 3d desktopis interface that acts... like a 'real desk' sort of...11:07
h3sp4wn!ratpoison11:07
uboturatpoison: keyboard-only window manager. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.4.0.dfsg-4 (edgy), package size 157 kB, installed size 464 kB11:07
Dr_willis!matchbox11:07
ubotumatchbox: base environment for resource-limited systems. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:3 (edgy), package size 2 kB, installed size 32 kB11:07
MinatakuDr_willis: Kinda like Microsoft Bob11:07
Dr_willislook at that! only 2k!11:07
Dr_willisMinataku,  MS bob simulated a house...11:07
MinatakuDr_willis: 32k11:07
Dr_willisthats some serious compression!11:07
Dr_willis:)11:08
MinatakuDr_willis: I know, I just wanted to compare it to something equally as stupid and useless11:08
draikDr_willis: What is the video clip. Sounds rather interesting11:08
Minatakulol11:08
Dr_willisif it was compressed any more.. you would gain drive space by installing it...11:08
h3sp4wnAnyone played with scratchbox ?11:08
Dr_willis<zorglu_> HymnToLife: laugth at me while looking at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0ODskdEPnQ&mode=related&search=11:08
MinatakuI like mwm11:08
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Dr_willis:)11:08
Minataku!mwm11:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mwm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:08
MinatakuLIES11:08
Minatakulol11:09
Dr_willisNWN - Never winters Nights Window manager. ;)11:09
Minataku!mwm is Motif Window Manager11:09
draikThank you Dr_willis11:09
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Dr_willislets take the 2nd Life code.. and make a 2nd life window manager!11:09
zorglu_Dr_willis: hehe :) more seriously all the people i showed this video reacted similarly to you and other here.11:09
Minatakuzorglu_: That it was a completely useless piece of crap? XD11:09
zorglu_Dr_willis: now does this make me think i am wrong in thinking user WANTS this ? not a inch :)11:10
zorglu_Dr_willis: in just remind me that opensource world tends to follow and rarely innovate :)rarely11:10
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h3sp4wnzorglu_: Look at e17 that is innovation11:10
Dr_williszorglu_,  ive seen very little inovation from any place lately11:10
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Dr_willisMMORPG Filemanager/Desktop - :) that has... potential11:11
zorglu_Dr_willis: well on the web, with ajax, a lot of new stuff happened11:11
h3sp4wnzorglu_: imlib2 there is nothing for any platform that does what imlib2 does better than that11:11
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Dr_williszorglu_,  i focus more on the games/mmorpg/other stuff..  i barely understand how ajax even works. :)11:11
james_xxx!compiz11:11
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zorglu_h3sp4wn: i dont say that opensource doesnt produce gfood code. i just say this code doesnt innovate11:12
zorglu_Dr_willis: :)11:12
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zorglu_xgl and co is pretty innovative... but only a follow up on something which appeared on macosx11:13
Minatakuzorglu_: Perhaps you were looking for ##windows instead of #kubuntu? Because you seem out of place.11:13
h3sp4wnzorglu_: The ways it is done is the innovation (altivec / sse or mmx assembler)11:13
zorglu_Minataku: ??11:13
Little_EagleI'm not the only one who noticed11:13
Minatakuzorglu_: To put it bluntly... I think you're a troll.11:13
zorglu_Minataku: well it is your opinion :)11:14
Dr_willisMinataku,  but at least hes a amuseing troll.11:14
zorglu_moauaouaoua :)11:14
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h3sp4wnI think he is correct in some ways (with regards to gnome and kde anyway)11:14
zorglu_ok i give up :)11:14
Dr_willisor does anyone else remer those little big-eyed troll dolls with pink/green hair.11:14
Little_EagleDr_willis: Yep.11:14
zorglu_Dr_willis: i have almost no hair :)11:14
grim76Momma always said don't feed the trolls11:14
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zorglu_hehehe :)11:15
zorglu_i like this troll thing :)11:15
zorglu_if you dont understand something, put a label11:15
Minatakulol11:15
zorglu_a generic one meaning nothing11:15
Minatakuzorglu_: It's not11:15
zorglu_it helps feeling confortable :)11:15
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tsmitheLjL, oh really?11:15
zorglu_not to have to justify what you think :)))))))11:15
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MinatakuA troll is someone who attempts to cause trouble by being deliberately opposed to everything or trying to start arguments/fights11:16
zorglu_Dr_willis:  :)11:16
Dr_willisMinataku,  that is not true! :)11:16
Dr_willisheh heh...11:16
Dr_willisYes it is! No its not!11:16
Little_EagleMinataku: He thinks it's funny11:17
MinatakuIt honestly seems like this is what you're doing, since the "I'm right, you're wrong" attitude you have really points to it11:17
zorglu_hehehe :)11:17
zorglu_i am!!!11:17
zorglu_ok see ya11:17
Little_EagleMinataku: So do I11:17
zorglu_i tried11:17
zorglu_moreover it is not here that it is decided :)11:17
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Dr_willisgo into #debian and ask why you cant unisntall debian from the 'add/remove programs' section of windows..11:17
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Little_Eaglelol11:18
Minatakulol11:18
Dr_williswhat sad...is ive seen that asked in Linux channels befor.11:18
Minatakulol11:18
h3sp4wnThat is completely different to being of the opinion that kde and gnome don't innovate they just copy stuff from windows and mac os x11:18
MinatakuEspecially since Vista stole everything from everywhere11:18
h3sp4wn(the gui stuff anway)11:18
willhey guys.  I butchered an upgrade to edgy. And now for a couple days I've been trying to do something I certainly should have done before upgrading (back up my home folder)11:19
Dr_williswhen they innovate - they get ranted at - becase they are not working like 'all the others work'11:19
Little_EagleIsn't in MS that stole windows from mac in the first place?11:19
MinatakuI swear I've seen those Vista window decorations a year or two ago as a KDE style11:19
h3sp4wnDr_willis: That wouldn't bother me11:19
MinatakuLittle_Eagle: Actually, Apple stole it from Xerox in the first place11:19
willwell, things have gone from bad to worse.  It seems that my /home/will no longer exists.  that just happened in the last few minutes and I have no idea how.11:19
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Dr_willisWe need a port of C64 Geos desktop to Linux.11:20
willdoes anyone have any recovery tricks up there sleeves or am I shit out of luck?11:20
Minatakuwill: Was it mounted on a separate partition?11:20
MinatakuOr a separate drive?11:20
MinatakuPerhaps it wasn't mounted11:20
Little_Eaglewill:  let me guess you did a rm -R * and are now running off live CD11:20
willyes, I believe so.  but I'm not absolutely sure11:20
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willLittle_Eagle: no11:21
Little_Eagle:)11:21
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willI was trying to format an external drive to fat32 to so that I could cp -a my home folder to it and back it up on my windows machine.11:22
willI guess it's possible that I accidentally formatted my home directory?  I'm pretty clueless at the command prompt though11:22
Little_Eaglewill, and what command did you use?11:22
Little_Eagleis the terminal still open?11:23
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willterminal is open11:23
Little_Eaglehit the up arrow and look at the commands you used.11:23
willI was using fdisk /media/sda511:23
willit would always say that it couldn't read the drive11:23
MinatakuThat's because you're trying to run fdisk on a directory11:24
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willfuck yeah!11:24
LjL!language11:24
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.11:24
Little_Eagleyou don't use fdisk like that.  only on devices...11:24
willI don't know how, but I found my home folder.  it is now in /media/sda5/will11:24
willI don't know how11:24
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willLittle_Eagle: ok, so I'm thrilled all is not lost.  do you mind helping me back it up on a usb disk?11:25
willLittle_Eagle: I've got a disk that I've formatted to fat32 using a free windows app (CompuApps SwissKnife)11:26
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Dr_willis!info netconsole11:27
ubotuPackage netconsole does not exist in any distro I know11:27
Dr_willis!find netconsole11:27
ubotuPackage/file netconsole does not exist in edgy11:27
|kosmo|!find kvirc11:28
ubotuFound: kvirc, kvirc-data, kvirc-dev, kvirc2, kvirc2-data (and 1 others)11:28
draikDr_willis: Bumptop looks nice. Is that for linux/windows/both?11:28
MinatakuHm...11:28
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Dr_willis#1 - its just a silly prototype..11:28
Dr_willis#2 - its not a real program/os anyway :)11:28
draikDr_willis: Haha... jokes on you... I got me no kidneys!!!11:28
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Minatakulol11:29
h3sp4wndraik: are you a machine ?11:29
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willcan someone please help me backup my homefolder from the console onto a fat32 disk?  I've been reading stuff online and just seem to be making a bad situation worse by the minute11:29
draikh3sp4wn: Yes. You should hear me on the phone at work. It's just me repeating myself to all the callers with varied ways of asking the same thing.11:30
Dr_williswill,  mount the other partition/drive.. and copy the stuff over.. whats the problem?11:30
willI don't know how to use linux.  that's the main problem.11:30
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Dr_williswhere is this fat32disk at?11:31
gabaryahi'm having a problem running beryl11:31
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gabaryahi'm using a ati 9800 card11:31
gabaryahNo composite extension11:31
gabaryahberyl: No composite extension11:31
Little_EagleYou'd probably be better off just using konqeror to copy it.  Just like Windows.11:31
h3sp4wngabaryah: use the free drivers11:32
willDr_willis: well I've recently formatted it using a free windows app.  it's blank.  when I plug it into the linux box it appears to recognize it, but I'm not sure what it's doing with it.  I think its at dev/sda1 but I'm not sure.  I used to think it was mounted at /media/sda5, but that is apparently where my home folder is being stored now (with no externals attached)11:32
devilsadvocatewill, what, exactly, do you want to do?11:32
MinatakuErm...11:33
gabaryahati?11:33
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Dr_williswill,  use the  'mount' command and see whats mounted where.11:33
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Dr_williswill,  you are on the ubuntu live cd right now?11:33
gabaryahi'm using xorg-driver-fglrx11:33
willdevilsadvocate: I want to copy my home folder, which is now at /media/sda5/will to an external drive, preferably one that can be read by windows and linux11:34
gabaryahwhich drivers are you refferning to h3sp11:34
willDr_willis: no, I'm in recovery mode11:34
marc__test test11:34
devilsadvocatewill, are you on the same computer now?11:34
surgyHELLO!11:34
Dr_williswell you need to get the extrenal drive mounted somwehre.11:35
marc__hello surgy11:35
Dr_williswill,  is the drive plugged in now?11:35
willdevilsadvocate: no.  I'm on a windows machine11:35
Dr_williswill,  you are booting back/forth from windows to the linux box?11:35
marc__how are you11:35
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antibodyhi all I've apt-get install kubuntu-desktop from ubuntu..and my fonts in kde suck...is there a package to install automatically some antialized fonts?11:36
willDr_willis: I just plugged in the drive.  first, it initializes USB mass storage drivers, then it keeps recognizing it as a scsi disk. it's not.11:37
h3sp4wnantibody: use fixed fonts11:37
Little_Eaglewill, all usb devices are treated as scsi..11:37
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Little_Eagleso are SATA drives.11:37
willDr_willis: no, I lost my gui in a botched edgy upgrade, so I'm using a windows machine for IRC and internet access11:38
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h3sp4wnantibody: if you are on an lcd panel connected via vga (not dvi) do dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config (sub pixel hinting always) or see xfree86 deuglification howto11:38
willok, so the drive is plugged in.  how do I mount it?11:38
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alex_can someone help me install something11:39
Little_EagleFirst you need to know which device it is.  Most likely it's sda111:39
willhow do I check that?11:40
antibodyh3sp4wn: it's a laptop11:40
alex_I need to install 915resolution, how do I do it?11:40
Dr_williswill,  a usb drive IS recognized as a scsi device. :)11:40
h3sp4wnalex_: maybe you want the modesetting driver11:41
Dr_williswill,  use 'dmesg' command and see where its 'seen' at.. likd /dev/sdb1 or similer will be shown11:41
alex_h3sp4wn: what is that?11:41
rEvolution27how do i disable the desktop pager?11:41
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alex_h3sp4wn: I just need to change the resolution on my 945GM card, that's all11:41
h3sp4wnalex_: the newer driver for intel cards11:41
Little_Eaglewill: try to mount it.  mkdir /media/usb  && mount -t auto /dev/sda1 /media/usb11:41
willLittle_Eagle: I'm on you private chat now, if you'd prefer that.  And one of the lines in the output after plugging in the drive reads " sda: sda1"11:41
alex_h3sp4wn: and enable 3d acceleration11:41
alex_h3sp4wn: can you tell me how to install that then?11:41
Little_Eagle!nvidia11:42
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:42
alex_?11:42
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willLittle_Eagle: I know this is annoying, but do I actually type && or is that signifying the next command11:42
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h3sp4wnalex_: Not in a short amount of time11:42
Minatakuwill: Type &&11:43
Dr_willis945GM  is an IBM? Intel?11:43
alex_h3sp4wn: :(11:43
Little_Eagleeither one.11:43
alex_intel11:43
MinatakuIn the CLI "&&" is "and", "&" is "background"11:43
h3sp4wnDr_willis: intel11:43
alex_those instructions are for NVidia/ATI only though11:43
Minataku!915resolution11:44
ubotu915resolution: resolution modification tool for Intel graphic chipset. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 14 kB, installed size 128 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)11:44
Little_Eaglesorry11:44
MinatakuHm... no instructions11:44
Little_Eaglewill:  is it mounted now?11:44
alex_but how do I install it?11:44
h3sp4wnalex_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=164666011:44
Minatakualex_: Use the package manager11:44
MinatakuThat should be all11:44
MinatakuBasically install it the same way you'd install anything else11:45
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devilsadvocatealex, are you able to use your native resolution?11:45
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alex_devilsadvocate: no, that's why I need it11:45
h3sp4wnalex_: or backport from feisty http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/x11/xserver-xorg-video-i810-modesetting11:45
alex_how do I get to the package manager?11:46
willLittle_Eagle: well.  I've got some file system problems so my computer is booting with the file system read only11:46
gabaryahberyl is working however video & vmware screen is blacked out11:46
devilsadvocatealex_, look for a how-to. you need 915resolution package, which you can get with apt, and then you need to chage a line in a config file to set your resolution11:46
gabaryahanyone else having this problem11:46
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willLittle_Eagle: I can remount as read-write with mount -n -o remount,rw /11:47
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willLittle_Eagle: should I?11:47
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alex_So I use adept installer? and search there for 915resolution?11:47
alex_couldn't find anything there11:48
Dr_willisshoudl be ritht at the top11:48
alex_says no results11:48
Dr_willis!find 91511:48
ubotuFound: 915resolution11:48
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Dr_willis!info 915resolution11:48
ubotu915resolution: resolution modification tool for Intel graphic chipset. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 14 kB, installed size 128 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)11:48
voidmageI just had to restart x and since then I can't get direct rendering with fglrx. Anyone know how to get direct rendering back?11:48
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Dr_willisvoidmage,  you mean stop using fglrx?11:49
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alex_Where do I go to get 915resolution??11:49
kleeswhere can i find the lock file adept uses??11:49
devilsadvocatealex_, have you used apt-get or synaptic before?11:49
tazz when i do a 'umount /dev/hdc (my dvd-wr) i get the error 'umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy' how do i get my dvd-wr to eject ?11:50
Dr_willis!fixadept11:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fixadept - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:50
alex_devilsadvocate: the simple answer is no11:50
Dr_willis!adeptfix11:50
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 11:50
gabaryahhow do i change desktop res using kde11:50
devilsadvocate!synaptic | alex_11:50
ubotualex_: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto11:50
alex_devilsadvocate: I had SuSE before, I installed Kubuntu just today11:50
Little_Eaglemsg will  Worst case scenario, reinstall, and make home a separate partition.11:51
Sannetazz: some process still accesses your dvd device. Find out what and close it.11:51
Little_Eagledarn11:51
kleesDr_willis: thank you that worked11:51
devilsadvocate!apt | alex_11:51
ubotualex_: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)11:51
tazzSanne, any idea how i find the process?11:51
devilsadvocatealex_, sorry... its adpt, not aynaptic. my bad11:52
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Little_EagleGoodnight all (almost morning here)11:52
voidmageOkay11:52
alex_one sec11:52
voidmageI've restarted X and i'm using radeon now11:52
voidmageand i get this11:52
willLittle_Eagle: I've got it mounted11:52
devilsadvocatealex_, if you are comfortable on the command line i recommend apt-get or aptitude11:52
Sannetazz: I'm not sure, maybe it's: lsof /your/device11:52
voidmage$ glxinfo |grep direct11:52
voidmageXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".11:52
voidmagedirect rendering: No11:52
voidmageOpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect11:52
willwhere do I cp -a media/sda5 to11:52
alex_devilsadvocate: ok so do I do this: sudo apt-get install 915resolution ?11:53
devilsadvocatealex_, yeah11:53
alex_devilsadvocate: well it says that 915resolution is not found11:53
tazzSanne, got it thanks11:53
Sannetazz: you're welcome :)11:53
alex_devilsadvocate: E: Couldn't find package 915resolution11:53
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voidmageWhat can I do now to get direct rendering?11:54
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devilsadvocatealex_, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy/Hardware11:55
devilsadvocatealex_, go to the section about correcting graphics resolution in Intel11:55
devilsadvocatealex_, i suppose you need to add the extra repositories11:56
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alex_devilsadvocate: ok hang on11:56
alex_devilsadvocate: I just don't see the list of the repos I have to add11:57
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devilsadvocatealex_, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories11:58
larson9999i think vista will finally achieve MSs obvious goal of making an OS i don't buy.11:58
ooglabooglai've installed kubuntu herd3 and the package manager (adept) says there is a new upgrade, click next to upgrade. when i click the program disappears, closes, gone12:00
willwhat's the command to safely remove a usb drive12:00
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Sannewill: if you have the icon on the desktop, right click->safely remove12:01
willSanne: I have no gui (long story) do you know the command for it?12:01
Sannewill: Not really. Has it to do with "sync"? Others should answer that, please.12:02
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rEvolution27umm guys.... i uninstalled kicker and kde got messed up... how do I fix this?12:03
gabaryahwheres resolution settings for KDE12:03
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willanyone know how to safely remove a usb drive from the command prompt?12:05
rEvolution27anyone?12:05
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tsdgeoswill: yes12:05
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tsdgeosjust write12:06
tsdgeossync12:06
chavorEvolution27, reinstall it?12:06
tsdgeosand that'll flush all your file systems12:06
rEvolution27yes but how?12:06
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tsdgeosand then you can remove the usb drive12:06
rEvolution27i have no taskbar12:06
chavotry sudo apt-get install kicker12:06
chavokicker is the taskbar12:07
rEvolution27oh12:07
rEvolution27that explains12:07
willtsdgeos: thanks12:07
rEvolution27i though it was just the multiple desktops part12:07
rEvolution27what's the keyboard shortcut to open the console?12:07
chavohit alt-f2 for a run box then type konsole12:08
rEvolution27no wonder... i was typing console12:08
chavorEvolution27, if you uninstall kicker it will take some other packages with it, so you might want to reinstall them all12:08
rEvolution27yeh12:08
chavojust do -> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop12:08
chavoto get them all back12:09
rEvolution27ok12:09
alex_devilsadvocate: many things that I launch, don't work12:09
rEvolution27i'll learn not to do something stupid like that again12:09
chavobest way to learn :)12:10
devilsadvocatealex_, such as? replace gedit with kate at all instances12:10
alex_devilsadvocate: it looks like they launch (in the task bar), there is an icon next to the cursor, and then they disappear12:10
chavothat's how I learned so much, by messing things up and having to fix it12:10
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devilsadvocatealex_, what are you trying to run?12:10
alex_devilsadvocate: like I click on adept, and it never launches12:11
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devilsadvocatealex_, try using apt-get. its actually easier :P12:11
alex_devilsadvocate: yeah, I mean that's fine12:12
alex_devilsadvocate: I am just saying in general, there seems to be some kind of a problem12:12
alex_devilsadvocate: I need to launch some things many times before they appear :S12:12
devilsadvocatealex_, i dont know about adept// never used it :P12:12
alex_devilsadvocate: ANYthing, not just adept12:12
alex_devilsadvocate: kate, gedit, wlassistant, etc12:13
rEvolution27so chavo... this will overwrite kde?12:13
devilsadvocatealex_, hmm. seems like you have a problem. try running them from a command line and see the errors12:13
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oemhallo alle nachtschwrmer12:13
alex_devilsadvocate: from command line it does launch12:14

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