[12:15] <faLUCE> zorglu_: so, are system's API a LINUX (UNIX) specific stuff but more generic than kernel's api?
[12:15] <zorglu_> faLUCE: hehe :) i would suggest you to read books about that
[12:15] <zorglu_> faLUCE: i mean you wont understand what is a kernel on a irc channel :)
[12:16] <faLUCE> zorglu_: i see
[12:16] <faLUCE> zorglu_: one last thing: where are kernel's headers located?
[12:17] <zorglu_> good question  :)
[12:17] <zorglu_> faLUCE: well in the original kernel source obviously, typically /usr/src/linux
[12:17] <zorglu_> faLUCE: but it is possible to get a package with only the header
[12:18] <zorglu_> linux-headers-2.6.17-10 <- something like that
[12:18] <megamaced> you mean linux-headers-686 ?
[12:18] <zorglu_> /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.17-10 < and in this case this is located here
[12:18] <faLUCE> ok zorglu_ i know that but, in this case what /usr/include/linux/ does contain?
[12:18] <intelikey> Unable to load the requested driver: Unable to create the Foomatic driver [HP-PSC_750,gimp-print] . Either that driver does not exist, or you don't have the required permissions to perform that operation.  <<< running as root   i get that for any printer i select.
[12:19] <zorglu_> faLUCE: in theory this is linux specific include
[12:20] <zorglu_> faLUCE: and in practice im not sure, but this is clear that userspace SHOULD NOT include kernel header :)
[12:20] <intelikey> you know i believe ubuntu P's me off more and more each time i "try" to use it...
[12:20] <zorglu_> faLUCE: in fact i even remember several userspace soft doing it and kernel guys being pissed because of it
[12:21] <faLUCE> zorglu_: so you mean that /usr/include/linux/ is a sort of an ambigous space?
[12:21] <faLUCE> :)
[12:22] <faLUCE> a sort of "limbo"?:)
[12:22] <zorglu_> yeah like twilight zone but on mars :)
[12:24] <faLUCE> :) ok
[12:25] <faLUCE> ok zorglu_ thanks for the explanations:)
[12:25] <faLUCE> bye all!
[12:26] <ubuntu> hi
[12:26] <wiskzito> HI
[12:27] <ubuntu> i got a problem everytime i reinstall ubuntu and DL updates it changes my filesystem to ext2 from ext3
[12:27] <ubuntu> how  to stop it plz?
[12:27] <pedahzur> Well, you really don't want to.  ext3 is much more robust.
[12:27] <wiskzito> Anyone knows if i can send custom emoticons from kopete???
[12:27] <pedahzur> (journaling, etc)
[12:27] <ubuntu> pedahzur:  wat is better ext2 or ext3 ?
[12:28] <pedahzur> ubuntu: ext3 is better.
[12:28] <pedahzur> Soooo....I saw that KDE 3.5.6 has packages for edgy...any chance we'll get them for Dapper soon?
[12:28] <ubuntu> pedahzur:  but why after i DL updates it changes to ext2?
[12:28] <BluesKaj> wiskzito, do you think anyone really cares about emoticons here ? :)
[12:28] <pedahzur> Sorry...misread your question.
[12:29] <pedahzur> Ubuntu: I thought it was changing it the other way.
[12:29] <megamaced> KDE 3.5.6 won't get packaged for Dapper
[12:29] <pedahzur> Bummer.
[12:29] <wiskzito> I dunno, but .....
[12:29] <AxlRose> how do u set a permenent refresh rate in xorg.conf
[12:29] <pedahzur> ubuntu: what gets changed?  /etc/fstab?  or the output from "mount"?
[12:30] <wiskzito> BluesKaj, what i wanna know, is, why i can receive them, but cant send?!
[12:30] <Phlosten> hello all
[12:30] <ubuntu> pedahzur: dunno everztime i boot it says fileststem ext2fs
[12:30] <intelikey> tty4 [root@~]  fuser -k /home
[12:30] <intelikey> tty4 [root@~]  umount /home
[12:30] <intelikey> umount: /home: device is busy
[12:31] <megamaced> ubuntu; As does mine, but that's EXT3
[12:31] <Phlosten> is there any way to get rid of that 'loading application' dialogue when running non-kde apps?
[12:31] <ubuntu> so no ext2 right?
[12:31] <megamaced> ubuntu: in terminal, do 'nano /etc/fstab'
[12:31] <megamaced> you should see 'ext3'
[12:32] <BluesKaj> dunno wiskzito , sorry
[12:32] <ubuntu> i am on live CD now
[12:32] <shriram> can someone here help me with configuring my ATI radeon x1300 graphics card?
[12:32] <ubuntu> but will do asap i install it
[12:33] <wiskzito> BluesKaj, thx man!
[12:34] <BluesKaj> shriram, what do you mean by "configuring " ... being anATI card there's the default driver version and there's the binary driver version
[12:35] <acemo> how can i install a webcam? (webcam is build into the laptop)
[12:36] <Gulars> whenever I try to apt-get install something I get this warning: The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:  libfame-0.9 libpvm3 libpostproc0d libnspr4-0d libgadu3 libdvbpsi4 libxosd2  libpostproccvs51 libvlc0 vlc-nox transcode libdvdnav4 libiso9660-4 vlc  libmeanwhile1 libtar libvcdinfo0 libnss3-0dUse 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them
[12:36] <acemo> gulars: type sudo apt-get autoremove
[12:36] <Gulars> altho I know I want at least some of those
[12:36] <Gulars> how do I change their status?
[12:37] <megamaced> easiest thing is just remove, then reinstall them
[12:37] <yuki> Does anyone know of any MOV to AVI converters that'll run on Ubuntu? :)
[12:38] <BluesKaj> shriram, if you want DRI which helps with GUI's such as the google earth  to work properly then this is the site you should look at :https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-c966b2cb7c82944d6883f27a2896725db3b90a3a
[12:38] <ubuntu> try to google movtoavi or mov2avi
[12:38] <BluesKaj> !tovid | yuki
[12:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tovid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:38] <yuki> thanks
[12:38] <BluesKaj> oops try tovid , yuki
[12:38] <yuki> hehe :)
[12:39] <yuki> alright, I'll search it
[12:39] <BluesKaj> there's a tovid help chat here but nmobody seems to be around atm
[12:40] <Shak1> i need to update my $JAVA_HOME variable . someone has an idea where the sun_JDK_environment_path is at? i cant fint it with locate... mmmpf
[12:40] <BluesKaj> Shak1, try it in the konq address box
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[12:43] <BluesKaj> Shak1, /usr/share/app-install/icons/_usr_lib_j2se_1.4_jre_plugin_desktop_sun_java.png
[12:43] <mortici> is samba 3.0 in kubuntu repos yet?
[12:43] <dope> i live in orlando
[12:45] <BluesKaj> mortici, if you sudo apt-get update , it should be there
[12:46] <mortici> hmmm
[12:46] <mortici> seems i can't access shares on the vista machine :/
[12:46] <BluesKaj> there's a 3.02 something samba in synaptic
[12:47] <mortici> indeed
[12:49] <BluesKaj> i installed komba2 after insatlling samba and it found my wife's XP machine on our home network very quickly
[12:49] <dawn> !komba2
[12:49] <ubotu> komba2: KDE Samba browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.73.beta-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 173 kB, installed size 748 kB
[12:49] <dawn> hmmm interesting
[12:50] <BluesKaj> smb4k is really buggy so i don't use it
[12:51] <mortici> hmmm
[12:51] <mortici> how do i restart samba?
[12:53] <bergeron> hi, if i wanted to modify the login behavior of kdm, would i modify /etc/pam.d/kdm or /etc/pam.d/kdm-np or both?
[12:53] <kkosmo> !alies
[12:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alies - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:53] <kkosmo> !alias
[12:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alias - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:55] <BluesKaj> mortici, system/settings/filesharing/admin mode
[12:57] <BluesKaj> !aliases
[12:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aliases - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:59] <sleepy745> anyone use irssi ?
[01:00] <holle> Hallo
[01:01] <XenThraL> Hi, how do I make shortcuts to folders that behave like normal folders ?
[01:01] <XenThraL> (that is, don't have .desktop at the end, and appear in folder lists)
[01:01] <LjL> XenThraL: i guess you want a symlink
[01:02] <XenThraL> I don't know what that is
[01:02] <XenThraL> but I want a shortcut folder like the one that comes in your home folder, the 'examples' one
[01:02] <LjL> XenThraL: "man ln". you want "ln -s blah blah"
[01:02] <megamaced> use 'ln -s /path/to/file /path/to/shortcut
[01:02] <XenThraL> uh?
[01:02] <LjL> !cli
[01:02] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[01:02] <megamaced> XenThraL: use 'ln -s /path/to/file /path/to/shortcut
[01:02] <LjL> XenThraL: it's a command you type in a terminal
[01:03] <LjL> perhaps there's a way to do it graphically in KDE, but i don't really know
[01:03] <XenThraL> oh I know, was just kinda weirded out that I would need konsole to do it
[01:03] <fignew> you don't
[01:03] <megamaced> command line is quicker anyway :)
[01:03] <XenThraL> kinda isn't for me
[01:03] <megamaced> It is if you know what you are doing :P
[01:04] <XenThraL> not the case if your coming from windows
[01:04] <fignew> XenThraL: when you drag and drop a file
[01:04] <LjL> says who... anyway, i know the CLI way but not the KDE way, and i guess most of us do the same
[01:04] <fignew> it asks you if you want to copy it, move it, or link it!!
[01:04] <fignew> really straightforward stuff
[01:04] <XenThraL> oh, that worked
[01:05] <XenThraL> fignew: I was trying to drag with the right mouse button
[01:05] <LjL> fignew: except that creates a .desktop file
[01:05] <XenThraL> d'oh
[01:05] <XenThraL> but it works right
[01:05] <LjL> not a symlink
[01:05] <megamaced> I was going to bring up the DOS command prompt. But then I remembered it's so useless that most Windows users don;t use it :D
[01:05] <XenThraL> it created a folder
[01:05] <XenThraL> not a .desktop file
[01:05] <XenThraL> a 'italic' folder
[01:05] <LjL> didn't try it with a folder, i tried it with a file
[01:06] <LjL> yeah, with folders it actually makes a symlink
[01:06] <LjL> not so with files
[01:06] <LjL> (a behavior on which i have an opinion, but i won't share it)
[01:07] <XenThraL> thanks btw :)
[01:07] <XenThraL> been driving me nuts
[01:08] <esaym> anyone know how to get kdar to do a backup through ssh?
[01:12] <XenThraL> oh yeah, another question
[01:12] <XenThraL> how do I assign extensions to programs?
[01:14] <XenThraL> its recognizing .cbp as a text file, and so to add a program to it (by right click on the file, properties, edit file type) it would add to all text files the program I pick, wouldn't it?
[01:14] <XenThraL> or just .cbp, even though it says "text file" ?
[01:15] <AxlRose> is it possible to have the composite extension and DRI enabled with the Radeon driver
[01:15] <Shak1> xenthrat: konqueror --> Settings -Configure Konqueror -> File Associations    if that helps
[01:15] <megamaced> XenThraL: In Konqueror, go Settings > Configure Konqueror > File Associations
[01:16] <Shak1> ^^
[01:16] <megamaced> beat me to it :D
[01:16] <XenThraL> thanks :D
[01:16] <XenThraL> this # rocks btw
[01:22] <ssmasud> I have installed tk8.4 from a src distribution...now I need to uninstall it....i have tried "make uninstall" but it doesnt work....what to do?
[01:24] <XenThraL> hum, having a little trouble, managed to get the .cbp file recognized, but when I click on it, it tries to launch the application (even though an instance is already open)
[01:24] <XenThraL> how can I make it open the file and 'send it' to the already open program?
[01:27] <phobiac> I just used apt-build to build and install firefox, but after waiting for at least a half hour for it to compile I got this.
[01:27] <phobiac> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! libnspr4 libnss3 firefox
[01:27] <phobiac> E: There are problems and -y was used without --force-yes
[01:28] <ubuntu> I'm on livecd - how do I edit xorg.conf file now?
[01:28] <megamaced> ubuntu: you can't
[01:28] <phobiac> There's still files in the /var/chache/apt-build/build directory, is there any way to get apt-build to continue with the install?
[01:28] <ubuntu> megamaced: not, on cd, but on my harddrive
[01:29] <mena> Friendes why i have a problem with desktops while sewtching btt them using beryl
[01:29] <mena> i mean i cant send ap to them
[01:29] <megamaced> ubuntu: have you mounted your hard drive?
[01:29] <mena> and i cant set number of desktops correctly
[01:29] <ubuntu> megamaced: I just booted into livecd
[01:30] <megamaced> ubuntu: well you need to mount your hard drive if it isn't already
[01:30] <ssmasud_> I have installed tk8.4 from a src distribution......I want to remove it.....how do we remove packages installed from src distributions??....i have tried "make uninstall" but it doesnt work
[01:30] <ubuntu> megamaced: what is the command
[01:30] <phobiac> ssmasud_: It should be listed in your packages. I think.
[01:31] <megamaced> Well that depends on what hard disk / partition  that the root directory is installed on
[01:31] <phobiac> Have you looked in adept or synaptic?
[01:31] <megamaced>  /dev/hda1 for example
[01:31] <ubuntu> megamaced: sda partiton 3
[01:31] <megamaced> can you see it in Konqueror > Storage Media?
[01:31] <ubuntu> megamaced: sudo -i first?
[01:32] <maziah> hiyas, anyone recommend a kde partition manager?
[01:32] <ssmasud_> phobiac.......how do i check in those packages.....??...i have not installed it from "sudo apt-get install tk"...i have installed it from a src distribution.....
[01:32] <ubuntu> megamaced: mount /dev/sda3 to where?
[01:32] <megamaced> maziah: sudo apt-get install qtparted
[01:32] <maziah> thank you
[01:33] <megamaced> ubuntu: I guess you will have to creat a directory, like /media/<name>
[01:33] <phobiac> ssmasud_: Have you looked in adept and/or synaptic for the package? I'm pretty sure things built from source are still uninstallable from them.
[01:33] <Jenny_2> hi all
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[01:33] <phobiac> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! libnspr4 libnss3 firefox
[01:33] <maziah> i will try feisty alpha 3
[01:33] <phobiac> E: There are problems and -y was used without --force-yes
[01:33] <BluesKaj> maziah, even better , try GParted
[01:33] <phobiac> Ahh wth, sorry. Didn't mean to post that again.
[01:34] <phobiac> BluesKaj: I don't trust Gparted anymore :(
[01:34] <jordo23> whats the command line to see which version of kubuntu I am running?
[01:34] <maziah> uname -a
[01:34] <BluesKaj> works well for me  , phobiac
[01:34] <jordo23> phobiac: I just redid my system five minutes ago with QTparted....worked as well as Gparted...
[01:34] <ubuntu> megamaced: I mounted successfully the right parition
[01:35] <ubuntu> megamaced: now do I kdesu kate?
[01:35] <megamaced> okay, so where did you mount it?
[01:35] <baro> reggae
[01:35] <ubuntu> megamaced: /media/sda3
[01:35] <phobiac> I had it resize, copy then paste, and then resize again two partitions. It destroyed most of the data on both of them.
[01:35] <megamaced> ubuntu: what you need to do now is 'nano /media/sda3/etc/X11/xorg/conf'
[01:36] <ubuntu> megamaced: I like kate
[01:36] <phobiac> I had to reinstall linux and I'm considering even bothering to reinstall windows. Oh well, didn't lose anything horribly important.
[01:36] <megamaced> Sorry, I meant: ubuntu: what you need to do now is 'nano /media/sda3/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[01:36] <BluesKaj> copy and paste
[01:36] <BluesKaj> ?
[01:36] <ubuntu> megamaced: I prefer kate
[01:36] <megamaced> well if you prefer kate, just replace nano with kate
[01:37] <megamaced> nano is quick and easy though. Much better for editing files as root
[01:37] <phobiac> Gparted can copy the data from one partition into the free space of another.
[01:37] <BluesKaj> phobiac, what were you copy and pasting in partitions ?
[01:37] <phobiac> Err, I mean free space on the drive.
[01:38] <phobiac> It's supposed to make of copy of the data from one partition and paste it in the free of somewhere else on the drive.
[01:38] <ubuntu> megamaced: ok done. I'm 100% I fixed the problem now
[01:39] <phobiac> In hindsight I should have copied, checked it, then deleted. Instead of automating the process.
[01:39] <ubuntu> megamaced: do I need to unmount or just reboot?
[01:39] <phobiac> Oh well.
[01:39] <megamaced> ubuntu: what was the problem anyway? LOL
[01:39] <BluesKaj> well you have move and/or resize them
[01:39] <ubuntu> megamaced: nonworking kdm theme
[01:39] <megamaced> ubuntu: I don't think that has anything to do with you xorg.conf file
[01:39] <ubuntu> megamaced: + nvidia drivers distorded ttys
[01:40] <phobiac> BluesKaj: If you right click on the partition in the graphical representation of your drive, it gives you the option to copy.
[01:40] <ubuntu> megamaced: so I had to revert nvidia to nv to use tty
[01:40] <megamaced> ubuntu: you don't need to unmount, just reboot
[01:40] <ssmasud_> phobiac thanks....that worked
[01:40] <BluesKaj> well using any partition editor can be risky , but automation is a scary way
[01:40] <phobiac> ssmasud_: Np
[01:40] <ubuntu> megamaced: now I reboot, stop kdm in tty and use startx
[01:40] <ubuntu> megamaced: you see with nvidia I can't read ttys
[01:41] <ubuntu> megamaced: colorful garbage
[01:41] <phobiac> Yeah, like I said it was a stupid move. Luckily everything of value to me was on a third partition that I didn't touch and don't plan on ever touching.
[01:41] <ubuntu> megamaced: thanks for help
[01:41] <megamaced> what do you mean by ttys?
[01:41] <baro> irc://chat.freenode.net:6667/#grass
[01:41] <baro> help me
[01:41] <ubuntu> megamaced: ctrl-alt-f1..f6
[01:41] <phobiac> baro: What's your problem?
[01:41] <ubuntu> megamaced: how you call them?
[01:41] <BluesKaj> at any rate i have easy access to the hda/ntfs partition and vice versa if need be
[01:42] <megamaced> ubuntu: terminal; sessions?
[01:42] <ubuntu> m'kay
[01:42] <megamaced> ubuntu: I am using binary blob and I have no problems
[01:42] <phobiac> I like Gparted, it did what it was supposed to *almost*. Next time I'll just be more careful. If there is a next time, which I don't plan on their being.
[01:43] <megamaced> ubuntu: I am using latest nVidia debian packaged drivers from this repo: http://www.albertomilone.com/instructions.html
[01:43] <ubuntu> megamaced: ah I got another problem that I can't use beryl because of turbocache memory bug
[01:43] <ssmasud_> phobiac...I am installing a package which has tcl/tk as its own....now i have completely removed tk but it still says that some symbols are defined.....how do i install that package???
[01:43] <ubuntu> megamaced: they haven't fixed it now a few months
[01:44] <ubuntu> fuck them, my next card will be intel
[01:44] <phobiac> ssmasud_: I don't understand what you mean. Is it giving you an error?
[01:44] <ssmasud_> yes ...you want me to past it on pastebin??
[01:44] <phobiac> Sure
[01:45] <phobiac> So I ask again, I just used apt-build to build and install firefox, but after waiting for at least a half hour for it compile I got this.
[01:45] <phobiac> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[01:45] <phobiac> libnspr4 libnss3 firefox
[01:45] <phobiac> E: There are problems and -y was used without --force-yes
[01:45] <baro> yeah
[01:45] <phobiac> baro: You're having a problem?
[01:46] <baro> yes
[01:46] <phobiac> What is it?
[01:46] <baro> irc://chat.freenode.net:6667/#grass
[01:46] <phobiac> What about that?
[01:46] <baro> come si ci v
[01:47] <phobiac> Just say your problem here so anyone who might know more then about it can help too.
[01:47] <baro> sorry
[01:48] <phobiac> Baro: Hablan espanol?
[01:48] <phobiac> My spanish is poor, but yeah.
[01:49] <LjL> that's italian
[01:49] <ssmasud__> phobiac...sorry i think i was disconnected...did u say anything in between??
[01:49] <phobiac> Ah okay, I'm horrible with languages.
[01:49] <phobiac> ssmasud__: Nope, just waiting on the pastebin.
[01:49] <ssmasud__> phobiac..http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3897/
[01:49] <LjL> baro: just type   /join #grass
[01:50] <phobiac> Holy zombie jesus there's an error in every line of that.
[01:51] <ssmasud__> phobiac.....the error starts only when NS2 enters into tk installation.....i have tried building it with "tk=no" but it still doesnt work
[01:51] <lovely> can anyone help me? I have just reinstalled kubuntu and the x server is loading as the smallest screen size available. I have tried going thru the system sttings to adjust but am unable. I have tried resetting the x server multiple times. any suggestions?
[01:51] <phobiac> !resoultion | lovely
[01:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about resoultion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:52] <phobiac> !resolution | lovely
[01:52] <ubotu> lovely: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:52] <phobiac> Lovely: Second link in that should help you.
[01:53] <phobiac> ssmasud__: I don't know how to help you any further. Sorry. It suggests a site for help at the bottom of that though, try there?
[01:53] <ssmasud__> phobiac...yes it doesnt work either
[01:53] <ssmasud__> :)
[01:53] <BluesKaj> lovely, have tried in system settings/monitor&display/hardware/adminmode/configure/apply
[01:54] <phobiac> ssmasud__: Works for me
[01:54] <ssmasud__> phobiac....yes the site works but it doesnt resolve my issue
[01:54] <phobiac> Yeah I see that now.
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[01:55] <Poom> yay it works now, thnx you xsacha and juano
[01:55] <phobiac> That's the second time we've been spammed.
[01:56] <ssmasud__> phobiac...God have mercy on my soul..I am trying to install NS2 since about a month....i have projects pending:)
[01:56] <BluesKaj> 3rd
[01:56] <hatta> I don't like spam
[01:56] <phobiac> Ah, I messed the first.
[01:56] <phobiac> ssmasud__: What is NS2?
[01:56] <meteor-1500> hi - is there some packages you can install on kubuntu amd64 to get x86 binaries to work too?
[01:57] <jordo23> !version
[01:57] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[01:57] <meteor-1500> i thought one of the ideas of amd64 was that you can run legacy 32 bit as well
[01:57] <ssmasud__> phobiac....its a Network Simulator.....
[01:57] <phobiac> Ah okay
[01:57] <jordo23> I ran apt-get dist-upgrade and I am still at dapper, what else to I have to do to get to edgy?
[01:57] <phobiac> jordo23: You restart?
[01:57] <jordo23> phobiac: Yeah....
[01:58] <phobiac> Hmm, that's really odd.
[01:58] <jordo23> phobiac: Completely rebooted....still says dapper, although now Grub has two kernals listed....
[01:58] <phobiac> Did you try the other kernal? I don't see why Grub would list two though.
[01:59] <george> alguem pode me ajudar a atualizar o ams ?
[01:59] <Jucato> !es
[01:59] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[01:59] <BluesKaj> grub lists both kernels after a distro upgrade ...it did for me
[01:59] <Jucato> !pr
[01:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:59] <Jucato> !pt
[01:59] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[01:59] <BluesKaj> !pt
[01:59] <baro> kubuntu
[01:59] <phobiac> It didn't do that for me that I recall.
[02:00] <XenThraL> hum, having a little trouble, managed to get the .cbp file recognized, but when I click on it, it tries to launch the application (even though an instance is already open)
[02:00] <XenThraL> how can I make it open the file and 'send it' to the already open program?
[02:00] <baro> whi is riddell?
[02:00] <gavinc> heyguys is anyone else having problems with X.org and KDE? It can go days without a hitch then when I fire up half a dozen differnet websites the cpu jumps to 50-60% asnd stays there. Either this is a bug with X + accelerated drivers or KDE? I presume its a well know issue?
[02:01] <baro> who
[02:01] <baro> chmod
[02:01] <jordo23> Jucato: I redid my system using a dapper cd....i ran dist-upgrade but it still says I am running dapper.....what should I do?
[02:01] <Jucato> !upgrade | jordo23
[02:01] <ubotu> jordo23: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[02:01] <Riddell> baro: ?
[02:01] <meteor-1500> anyone here running amd64 and have x86 binaries working?
[02:01] <Jucato> fdoving: are you around?
[02:01] <jordo23> Jucato: I already did those....
[02:02] <jordo23> !version
[02:02] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[02:02] <baro> who can resolse the sintaxa of mine chmod group rwx???
[02:02] <mortici> anyone good with samba
[02:02] <mortici> seems to be broken on my pc
[02:03] <TheFrederick> hi all...
[02:03] <hyper_ch> mortici: whats wrong?
[02:03] <TheFrederick> EXOTICS ADULT FORUM ::::::: http://exotics.ezbbforum.com
[02:03] <TheFrederick> EXOTICS ADULT FORUM ::::::: http://exotics.ezbbforum.com
[02:03] <hyper_ch> TheFrederick: hi
[02:03] <TheFrederick> EXOTICS ADULT FORUM ::::::: http://exotics.ezbbforum.com..
[02:03] <meteor-1500> lol
[02:03] <mortici> winxp doesn't see any samba directories
[02:03] <hyper_ch> mortici: then get rid of winxp :)
[02:04] <mortici> lol
[02:04] <mortici> :P
[02:04] <baro> chmod =rwxrwxrwx i can rws on awhit any nick?
[02:04] <ssmasud__> what is X11R6????
[02:04] <hyper_ch> mortici: are you sure to have samba setup correctly?
[02:04] <hyper_ch> !X11R6
[02:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about X11R6 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:05] <mortici> i can access the windows shares from my linux box
[02:05] <mortici> but not the other way around
[02:05] <underdog5004> !ops
[02:05] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, or DBO
[02:05] <gnomefreak> ?
[02:05] <underdog5004> spammer for erotic sites
[02:05] <hyper_ch> mortici: I've never tried to access windows shares from linux... only the other way around
[02:05] <baro> freak
[02:05] <underdog5004> thank you
[02:05] <Hobbsee> nalioth: ping?
[02:05] <mortici> hyper_ch: do you have a guide i can use?
[02:06] <mortici> im using KDE to config samba
[02:06] <phobiac> Okay so, I'm still having that problem with apt-build.
[02:07] <SeanTater> What alternatives to ark are there?
[02:07] <hyper_ch> mortici: I use this config:   http://phpfi.com/199811
[02:07] <mortici> BAM
[02:07] <phobiac> I waited about a half hour for firefox to build and I got this: WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[02:07] <phobiac> libnspr4 libnss3 firefox
[02:07] <meteor-1500> SeanTater: tar
[02:07] <mortici> lol all of samba wasn't installed
[02:07] <phobiac> E: There are problems and -y was used without --force-yes
[02:07] <mortici> sudo aptitude install samba fixed it :D
[02:07] <mortici> now to get it to work on linux :D
[02:07] <SeanTater> meteor-1500: It's not drag-and-drop -- :P
[02:07] <mortici> err i mean vista :P
[02:08] <hyper_ch> vist speech recognition can delete files :)
[02:08] <phobiac> Anyone know what I can do? All the files that apt-build built are still in the chache.
[02:08] <hyper_ch> phobiac: where's the problem
[02:08] <meteor-1500> phobiac: delete them
[02:08] <meteor-1500> ?
[02:08] <jordo23> !version
[02:08] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[02:08] <SeanTater> phobiac: I've seen that one before
[02:09] <phobiac> hyper_ch: I used apt-build to build firefox and after waiting about a half hour for it to build I got this: WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[02:09] <phobiac> libnspr4 libnss3 firefox
[02:09] <phobiac> E: There are problems and -y was used without --force-yes
[02:09] <SeanTater> phobiac: It's inconsequential, but I can;t remember the option that alleviates it
[02:09] <jordo23> Jucato: Rebooted once more after running all commands on the upgrade wiki.....lsb_release -a  still says dapper....
[02:09] <phobiac> I just wanted to know if there's a simple way to get apt-build to continue or something.
[02:09] <Jucato> jordo23: a few things might have been held back. can you run dist-upgrade again?
[02:09] <SeanTater> phobiac: try --allow-unauthenticated
[02:09] <jordo23> Jucato: will try
[02:10] <phobiac> SeanTater: Hmm, I'll look through it's man again. After trying that.
[02:10] <SeanTater> phobiac: it's just because they can't prove the debian people built it, that's because /you/ built it
[02:10] <jordo23> Jucato: 0 upgraded....0 installed.....looks clean....do I have to get a new sources.list?
[02:10] <phobiac> Will it start building firefox from scratch again?
[02:10] <jordo23> jordo23: Do I need one for the dapper lists?
[02:10] <Jucato> jordo23: can you pastebin your current sources.list?
[02:10] <hyper_ch> why build firefox=?
[02:10] <SeanTater> phobiac: yep, that's the option
[02:11] <jordo23> Jucato: (oops).....yesh
[02:11] <Jucato> jordo23: you're trying to upgrade to edgy right?
[02:11] <SeanTater> phobiac: hold on --
[02:11] <ssmasud__> !X11
[02:11] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:11] <phobiac> I was trying to see if I could get it to just install what it already built...
[02:11] <SeanTater> phobiac: you /should be able to install firefox from apt-get, and it will install the one that you built
[02:11] <hudsy> hi! how can I install plugins for firefox???
[02:11] <SeanTater> phobiac: that's the way the sources.list works
[02:12] <Jucato> hudsy: which plugins?
[02:12] <phobiac> hyper_ch: I had to reinstall linux anyway and firefox was a little slow for me last time. I just anted to see if building it would speed it up.
[02:12] <jordo23> jucato: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3898/
[02:12] <hudsy> to see videos
[02:12] <phobiac> Yeah I know it's in the repos.
[02:12] <hyper_ch> phobiac: just use the repos wherever you can... otherwise use swiftfox
[02:12] <phobiac> hudsy: You mean extensions? They should install just like normal.
[02:12] <jordo23> Jucato: Naturally....they all still say dapper....do I have to generate an "edgy copy:
[02:12] <Jucato> hudsy: flashplugin-nonfree for flash videos
[02:12] <hyper_ch> for me it doesn't matter... ff is always open
[02:13] <Jucato> jordo23: er.. of course you need to have an edgy sources.list if you want to upgrade to edgy
[02:13] <hudsy> no, I mean mpeg....
[02:13] <jordo23> Jucato: I didn't know if that would happen automatically....
[02:13] <phobiac> Eh, okay. I'll just stick with the repos then.
[02:13] <hudsy> and things like that
[02:13] <Jucato> hudsy: try mozilla-mplayer
[02:13] <hudsy> ok
[02:13] <hudsy> thenks!!
[02:13] <Jucato> jordo23: er.. no. you have to change dapper to edgy yourself. that page on upgrading to Edgy says so
[02:14] <Jucato> (which you said you followed...)
[02:14] <jordo23> Jucato: Can I generate a fresh sources.list from that website generator for Edgy....will that work?
[02:14] <Poom> hi, here is my problem: http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/596/snapshot7qz1.png
[02:15] <jordo23> !flash
[02:15] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:15] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[02:15] <Poom> is there a way to fix the black color in that window ?
[02:15] <hudsy> it says it cant find the pakage mozilla-mplayer,.,,,
[02:15] <Jucato> jordo23: just follow the steps for the upgrade because there's a command there that will modify your sources.list from dapper to edgy
[02:15] <Jucato> !upgrade | jordo23
[02:15] <ubotu> jordo23: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[02:16] <hudsy> it says it cant find the pakage mozilla-mplayer...
[02:16] <Jucato> hudsy: you need to enable the "multiverse" repository
[02:16] <Jucato> !multiverse | hudsy
[02:16] <ubotu> hudsy: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:17] <Poom> anyone ?
[02:17] <ssmasud__> where are X11 header files located??
[02:17] <jordo23> Jucato: Where in that article does it state to switch to the edgy repositories?
[02:17] <LjL> xincludes | ssmasud__
[02:17] <LjL> !xincludes | ssmasud__
[02:17] <Jucato> ssmasud__: xorg-dev
[02:17] <ubotu> ssmasud__: When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   xorg-dev
[02:17] <Jucato> jordo23: 2nd part of Step 2
[02:18] <Jucato> "Then backup and change /etc/apt/sources.list from dapper to edgy. The backup will be: /etc/apt/sources.list.bak # cp /etc/apt/sources.{list,list.bak}; sed -i s/dapper/edgy/g /etc/apt/sources.list"
[02:19] <jordo23> Jucato: got it.....didn't see that...
[02:20] <jordo23> Jucato: Skipped the backup and switch statement.....lol
[02:20] <Jucato> hm :)
[02:20] <jordo23> Jucato: Oh yeah....there she goes....201 additional MB
[02:21] <lazybunz> hi
[02:21] <lazybunz> I'm having problems with Kopete's AIM
[02:21] <lazybunz> it won't connect for some reason
[02:21] <lazybunz> is it happening to everyone, or is it just my network?
[02:22] <jordo23> Jucato: Couldn't take the 64bit limitations and workarounds....went to 32 bit...:)
[02:22] <Jucato> ah
[02:23] <BluesKaj> jordo23, welcome 64bit refuge ...32bit :)
[02:24] <meteor-1500> jordo23: did you try the ia32 libraries?
[02:24] <meteor-1500> jordo23: i'm just trying that now to see if that'll get flash player and stuff going
[02:25] <jordo23> meteor-1500: I got flash working thru a chroot, but it was halting and full of hassle...
[02:25] <jordo23> meteor-1500: Only took seven hours too....
[02:25] <meteor-1500> ah ok
[02:25] <meteor-1500> jordo23: lol that's a real pain
[02:25] <acemo> im getting this error:
[02:25] <acemo>   File "/usr/share/EasyCam2/easycam.py", line 25, in ?
[02:25] <acemo>     import gnome.ui
[02:25] <acemo> ImportError: No module named gnome.ui
[02:25] <acemo> how can i get gnome.ui?
[02:26] <mortici> wth
[02:26] <mortici> stupid vista
[02:26] <jordo23> meteor-1500: I wrestled with the decision, cause I built a nice 64 bit system, but I would....its just easier at this point...
[02:26] <mortici> i can access shares on my linux box
[02:27] <mortici> but i can't access shares on vista from linux
[02:27] <jordo23> meteor-1500: Then only advantage to 64 bit is if you have over 4 gb of ram...
[02:28] <jordo23> How do you get the KDE clock off of 24 hour time again....
[02:30] <Jucato> jordo23: right-click -> Date & Time format
[02:30] <XenThraL> my sound options disappeared
[02:30] <XenThraL> whats the name of the kapp?
[02:30] <jordo23> Jucato: Why can I never find that?
[02:31] <Jucato> jordo23: it's not that hard to find out... :P
[02:31] <Jucato> XenThraL: kmix
[02:31] <XenThraL> thanks
[02:31] <jordo23> Jucato: Where in that menu....dont see the option...
[02:31] <dope> how do i turn autoindent on in the .vimrc file
[02:32] <Jucato> jordo23: right-click on the clock -> Date & Time format
[02:32] <jordo23> Jucato: No...I am there.....where in that menu.....don't see it under Time&Dates...
[02:32] <stdin> jordo23: in the Time & Date tab
[02:33] <Jucato> jordo23: the time format
[02:33] <jordo23> Jucato: What do you switch it to?
[02:33] <Jucato> oh wait...
[02:33] <stdin> HH:MM:SS = 24hour , pH:MM:SS AMPM = 12hour
[02:34] <Jucato> jordo23: btw, you can only see AM/PM if you switch to Plain type clock
[02:34] <jordo23> stdin Jucato: I switched it to the other format, but time is still 24 hour....I even reloaded the clock.....reboot?
[02:35] <Jucato> jordo23: did you see my note above?
[02:35] <Jucato> jordo23: what type of clock are you using?
[02:35] <stdin> jordo23: normally a logout and login will do it, or just restart kicker
[02:35] <jordo23> Jucato: Yeah....set to plain....
[02:35] <jordo23> stdin: Yeah...will try that...
[02:37] <zakame> uo Jucato
[02:37] <ubuntu> o
[02:37] <mortici> is there any reason why a windows box is asking me for a password
[02:38] <cpk1> to verify you are who you say you are?
[02:38] <phobiac> mortici: It wants the password?
[02:38] <Minataku> It's trying to make you think it has secuirty
[02:38] <mortici> yes
[02:38] <phobiac> I'll go with Minataku's reponse
[02:39] <Minataku> "Look at me! I can ask for passwords too!"
[02:39] <Minataku> XD
[02:39] <mortici> lol
[02:40] <mortici> and not access it when you type the right ones
[02:40] <Minataku> Exactly
[02:40] <Minataku> lol
[02:40] <root> hi, need help with feisty installation please.
[02:41] <stdin> root: ask in #ubuntu+1 for feisty issues
[02:41] <root> thanks
[02:41] <Minataku> I honestly hope you're not root right now
[02:41] <phobiac> Oh dear god yes.
[02:42] <root> i am
[02:42] <Minataku> He is
[02:42] <phobiac> Oh god
[02:42] <root> so ?
[02:42] <Minataku> root: Bad, bad, bad idea
[02:42] <Minataku> root is for system maintenance ONLY
[02:42] <root> and what ?
[02:42] <Minataku> All other tasks/activities/etc are for less privileged users
[02:43] <phobiac> Anyway it seems that the only good thing about reinstalling linux is that I finally got java working in firefox.
[02:43] <Minataku> You are on IRC as root. This is a Bad Thing(tm).
[02:43] <makuseru> how do you run a .bin file?
[02:43] <Minataku> You are very highly suggested to cease such unsafe activity
[02:43] <root> i am in the install cd version, the only way to get irssi was to be in root.
[02:43] <Minataku> makuseru: It depends on what type of .bin it is
[02:43] <root> not that i have to justify how i use my operating system to you.
[02:44] <Minataku> Type "file -zrk nameoffile.bin"
[02:44] <makuseru> theres diffrent kinds?
[02:44] <phobiac> root: There's something wrong with your CD then
[02:44] <Minataku> root: Then do not request help with removing any sort of virus, rootkit or similar
[02:44] <smaggard> hey i have a question.. can i limit a user than can ftp via ssh to only be able to view his home dir?
[02:44] <phobiac> I was just now, a few hours ago, using irssi on a live CD sans root powers.
[02:44] <mortici> wtf
[02:44] <mortici> this is soooooooooooooo annoying
[02:44] <Minataku> mortici: What did it say it is?
[02:44] <Minataku> Oh, sorry
[02:44] <Minataku> Wrong m*
[02:45] <Minataku> X3 >.<
[02:48] <makuseru> how do you run a shell script in a terminal
[02:48] <ForgeAus> irssi is suprisingly nice to use
[02:49] <ForgeAus> I don't get the fixation with using timestamps on everything IRC tho... still you can probably turn that off somehow
[02:49] <phobiac> Irssi is awesome.
[02:49] <LjL> makuseru: make it executable and type its name (a full path, not just the name)
[02:49] <LjL> chmod +x filename will make a file executable
[02:49] <stdin> makuseru: (if it's executable) like: ./myscript.sh
[02:49] <stdin> makuseru: (if it's in the same dir)
[02:49] <ForgeAus> its basically ircii +
[02:50] <phobiac> irssi has saved me at least three times now
[02:50] <ForgeAus> saved you? as in what?
[02:50] <ssmasud__> how can I find any particular string inside a file???....with the "find" command???
[02:50] <BluesKaj> yup, irssi helped me get out of an xserver-xorg jam by enabling me to logon to this room from the TTY ...very cool
[02:50] <phobiac> I've had issues that messed up xserver and I was able to pop into here for help from the CLI :D
[02:51] <ForgeAus> ahh IC
[02:51] <stdin> ssmasud__: with grep: grep string /path/to/file
[02:51] <smaggard> anyone know how to limit a user to only view his home dir?
[02:52] <grim76> smaggard: are you trying to limit them in FTP or in SSH, or do you want them just to connect via FTP and not SSH?
[02:53] <smaggard> i meant sftp sorry
[02:53] <smaggard> both sftp and ssh.. i think i found it tho
[02:53] <Minataku> ForgeAus: You should see my timestamps
[02:53] <Minataku> [20:50:45]  Minataku ForgeAus: You should see my timestamps
[02:53] <Minataku> :D
[02:53] <ssmasud__> stdin...thanks
[02:53] <stdin> ssmasud__: no problem :)
[02:53] <grim76> smaggard: sorry not sure on that one without changing perms on folders, and that could have very bad results.
[02:54] <smaggard> yeah exactly
[02:54] <smaggard> haha.
[02:54] <ForgeAus> lol
[02:54] <phobiac> Minataku: Yours look like mine, only I don't have the seconds.
[02:54] <smaggard> turns out, i didnt find it, once they actually changed the bash script like they talked about doing they couldnt log in heh
[02:54] <Minataku> phobiac: I use XChat
[02:54] <ForgeAus> hehe I like this one: The best advice about installing Vista: Dont!
[02:55] <Minataku> And I prefer having the seconds on it :3
[02:55] <ForgeAus> http://talkback.zdnet.com/5208-12558-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=29596&messageID=552391&start=-1
[02:55] <smaggard> ive created a user for a client to be able to upload drawings to a folder, and i dont want him poking around in the rest of the system and looking in everyones home dirs
[02:55] <phobiac> I know irssi can have seconds, I just haven't configured it to show them.
[02:55] <Minataku> phobiac: Ah
[02:55] <Minataku> I didn't mean to sound like a jerk when I said that, BTW (Sorry >.< )
[02:55] <phobiac> You didn't man lol
[02:57] <grim76> smaggard: I did not think that the other homedirs were readable via other users unless they were allowed access by perms changes or acl changes.
[02:57] <smaggard> hmm
[02:57] <smaggard> lemme double check
[02:57] <dope> anyone know anything about www.packetgarden.com
[02:58] <ssmasud__> how do I comment a section of code in vi????.....i mean from line 10-line20.....commenting each line with # is a pain
[02:59] <smaggard> well, the user can login via ssh and go right into home dirs of other people
[02:59] <phobiac> Why is it that a newly installed OS always seems to be running better then before?
[02:59] <stdin> smaggard: that's default, you can change it by removing the perms for "others"
[03:00] <smaggard> how do i do that
[03:00] <stdin> smaggard: chmod o-x /home/username
[03:00] <DaSkreech> Cmon Feisty beta!
[03:00] <stdin> (with sudo)
[03:01] <smaggard> ah k
[03:01] <smaggard> thanks lemme try that
[03:01] <ssmasud__> how do I comment a section of code in vi????.....i mean from line 10-line20.....commenting each line with # is a pain
[03:01] <zakame> `:10-20s/^/#/' ?
[03:02] <smaggard> ah that did it, thanks!
[03:02] <DaSkreech> how do I switch a pattern at the front of a word with a pattern at the back?
[03:03] <smaggard> that user can still browse the entire system tho.. i think i need a jail or something
[03:03] <ssmasud__> zakame.....if I want to comment a section without line numbers...do i have to use #/ ..../# ???
[03:03] <DaSkreech> ssmasud__: If it's a line it has line numbers :)
[03:04] <ssmasud__> DaSkreech....no i mean as we do in C lang..../*....*/ .....so there is also a way in vi...
[03:05] <DaSkreech> ssmasud__: Nope bash doesn't respect that :0
[03:05] <ForgeAus> DaSkreech having trouble bashing bash into shape?
[03:06] <DaSkreech> ForgeAus: A tad thought that was aimed at ssmasud__
[03:06] <zakame> smaggard: you can select a section by `v' and moving the direction keys to select the section, then after that just do `s/^/#/'
[03:06] <DaSkreech> I'm trying to figure out hwo to swap a pattern in a word to somewhere else in the word
[03:06] <zakame> that assumes your comment char is `#' on the first char
[03:10] <eMish_> mozilla feels so much better than firefox. is it ironic ?
[03:11] <mortici> GAHHHHH!!! stupid shares, see with linux its nice and easy set a username set a password set a dir to share, and you can access just fine from windows, but reverse that and set no password or username to get access (so no restrictions) and set a share but it inisists on asking for a username/password
[03:11] <DaSkreech> really I've always ahd issues in teh opposite direction
[03:11] <DaSkreech> mortici: using the smb:// kioslave?
[03:12] <zakame> mortici: same prob here, my xphome doesn't seem to allow me to access its share
[03:13] <mortici> DaSkreech: yep
[03:13] <mortici> i can access the linux share absolutely no problem from windows
[03:13] <mortici> not so if i try to access from linux
[03:13] <zakame> indeed
[03:17] <george> alguem pode me ajudar
[03:18] <zakame> mortici: does it look like bug #52634
[03:19] <stdin> !br
[03:19] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[03:21] <mortici> qhats the direct link to the bug?
[03:22] <zakame> mortici: does it look like bug #52634
[03:22] <mortici> on what bug trac?
[03:23] <zosky> hey yall
[03:23] <mortici> zakame: give me a DIRECT link plz :P
[03:23] <zosky> nice to see a thriving scene in IRC
[03:23] <Twylight> hello
[03:23] <zakame> mortici: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/52634
[03:23] <Twylight> I've got a bit of an issue
[03:24] <Twylight> and I'm wondering if anyone would care to help me?
[03:25] <stdin> don't know unless you ask :)
[03:25] <mortici> zakame: sort of, except i KNOW i  don't have password/username auth set on the windows box
[03:26] <ag3r> hi
[03:26] <zosky> can yall belive ATI wont give me drivers for my card cause thier from 2k2
[03:26] <zakame> mortici: indeed, same here in my situation
[03:26] <ag3r> i a total newbie...and i want to mount my other hard drives
[03:26] <ag3r> but i dont know how
[03:26] <Twylight> my linux install, kubuntu is only working on the live CD, with an option for forced graphics mode 800x600 32 bit
[03:26] <ag3r> can you help me?
[03:26] <zosky> i hope kubuntu can do the trick
[03:26] <DaSkreech> ag3r: do YOU KNOW HOW TO FIND YOUR HARD DRIVES?
[03:27] <mortici> granted i am on vista :/
[03:27] <DaSkreech> caps :-P
[03:27] <ag3r> i have made an fdisk
[03:27] <mortici> it worked fine in XP tho wth
[03:27] <ag3r> and i see it
[03:27] <Twylight> when I don't use the forced setting, I get an out of range error from my MONITOR
[03:27] <ag3r> sorry for my english im from spain :$
[03:27] <phobiac> Oh, hey DaSkreech. You're one of the guys that helped me out the other night.
[03:27] <Twylight> what should I do, as it's not a hardware/driver issue?
[03:27] <stdin> !es
[03:27] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:27] <DaSkreech> phobiac: I think so. What was it with?
[03:28] <phobiac> With that issue with me not being able to log in, yeah.
[03:28] <zosky> can someone please help - does this wiki page mean my (macintosh) ATI xclaim card wont for with TV in. that card uses the rage 128 chip.
[03:28] <zosky> is this the latest info > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsAti
[03:28] <DaSkreech> ag3r: Woah Fdisk :)
[03:28] <ag3r> thx
[03:28] <DaSkreech> phobiac: Glad to help if I helped if not it wasn't me!!!
[03:28] <DaSkreech> ag3r: ok well then a quick dirty way ok with you?
[03:29] <stdin> if you can read english well there is: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[03:29] <ForgeAus> its interesting that konversation accepts /nickserv as a command :)
[03:29] <stdin> ForgeAus: it also can do /ns :)
[03:29] <ForgeAus> lol stdin nice shortcut :)
[03:30] <phobiac> DaSkreech: It's funny though. The whole issue turned out to be that my /home partition wasn't big enough. But then Gparted messed something up when I was trying to fix that and I ended up having to reinstall Linux.
[03:30] <ForgeAus> (or alias if you like)
[03:30] <Twylight> so, can anyone help me?
[03:30] <redcliffe> hi - i'm trying to install 6.10 x86 on my machine, immediately after i hit enter on the dvd boot screen, i get a kernel panic in something related to acpi
[03:30] <redcliffe> i've tried pci=noacpi as an option, but no luck so far
[03:30] <redcliffe> any ideas?
[03:30] <ag3r> DaSkreech:
[03:30] <stdin> redcliffe: have you tried acpi=off too?
[03:30] <DaSkreech> ag3r:
[03:30] <ag3r> can you help me?
[03:30] <rdarch> can anyone tell me what kernel version the latest kubuntu installer uses?
[03:30] <DaSkreech> ag3r: ok well then a quick dirty way ok with you?
[03:30] <ForgeAus> ok I have a question.. what does "show device icons" in configure desktop mean?
[03:30] <redcliffe> stdin: no didn't know about that option, will try it now
[03:30] <redcliffe> thanks
[03:30] <ag3r> im from spain :$
[03:31] <ag3r> i cant understand if you use this words :P
[03:31] <Twylight> *sigh*
[03:31] <DaSkreech> ag3r: Ah
[03:31] <gravygoat> Twylight: You're running entirely off the CD?
[03:31] <DaSkreech> !es | ag3r
[03:31] <ubotu> ag3r: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:31] <Twylight> currently, yes
[03:31] <DaSkreech> Gracias :)
[03:31] <ag3r> ubotu:
[03:31] <stdin> redcliffe: I have to use "acpi=off pci=noacpi noapic nolapic" to boot
[03:31] <DaSkreech> ag3r: It's a robot
[03:31] <ag3r> theres nobody there to help me
[03:31] <ag3r> okei
[03:31] <ag3r> DaSkreech
[03:31] <Twylight> it boots ok from HD
[03:32] <ag3r> whtas the command in terminal?
[03:32] <ag3r> mount?
[03:32] <ForgeAus> I have 3 HDD partitions mounted that all show up on my desktop.... can I turn that off? (I'd prefer just to access them internally in konqueror)
[03:32] <gravygoat> Twylight: this problem only occurs running off the CD or is it when you boot off the HD?
[03:32] <DaSkreech> ag3r: make a directory
[03:32] <DaSkreech> ag3r: mkdir <foldername>
[03:32] <Twylight> boot off the hd
[03:32] <ag3r> where?
[03:32] <ag3r> media?
 can be anything you want
[03:32] <DaSkreech> ag3r: if you like
[03:32] <ubuntu> hola a todos
[03:32] <ag3r> okei
[03:32] <ubuntu> necesito ayuda
[03:32] <DaSkreech> hola
[03:32] <DaSkreech> !es
[03:32] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:32] <gravygoat> Twylight: What type of video card, and why did you say you know it isn't a driver issue?
[03:32] <ForgeAus> but I can't seem to remove the desktop items
[03:33] <ForgeAus> (erm icons)
[03:33] <Twylight> it's an SIS video onboard thing
[03:33] <ag3r> DaSkreech: weel go
[03:33] <Twylight> old comp
[03:33] <ag3r> well go
[03:33] <Twylight> it's not a driver issue because the live cd works
[03:34] <DaSkreech> ag3r:  ok then sudo mount /dev/<drive> /path/to/<foldername>
[03:34] <DaSkreech> ag3r: you know the drive you want right?
[03:34] <zosky> how about that ATI xclaim TV-in capability... i have the rage 128v on my card and the wiki only lists the rage 128 pro not working -- are they the same or will it work ? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsAti
[03:34] <ag3r> yep...i think so
[03:34] <Twylight> the two are the same. apart from one being a CD boot
[03:34] <gravygoat> Twylight: Did it ever work right off the HD install?  Sounds like the /etc/xorg.conf files are different
[03:35] <dope> how do i search for a file through the command line?
[03:35] <DaSkreech> ag3r: if you would like to make sure call me
[03:35] <DaSkreech> locate <filename>
[03:35] <Twylight> the boot WORKS from the HD
[03:35] <Eruantalon> Hey I am thinking of buying a router for my homenetwork. Can anyone give me a good recommendation. I think i need/want wireless support a few lan ports and a wan port. I heard you can install linux on some of them is that true?
[03:35] <Twylight> it's not a problem with the install
[03:35] <Twylight> I just get no graphics
[03:35] <ag3r> DaSkreech:
[03:36] <phobiac> Eruantalon: I've got a wrt54G that works pretty well
[03:36] <ag3r> somthing like this sudo mount /dev/sda/home/ag3r/Disco1
[03:36] <phobiac> Eruantalon: If you're so inclined there's also free (more powerful) firmware's availible on the internet.
[03:36] <smaggard> is there a way to set the default sftp dir?
[03:36] <DaSkreech> sudo mount /dev/sda<number> /home/ag3r/Disco1
[03:36] <Twylight> it's a monitor issue, and I want to know if I can set the HD boot to auto force resolution to 800x600 32 bit
[03:36] <meteor-1500> stdin: tried acpi=off, no difference
[03:36] <DaSkreech> You need to add a number and a space
[03:37] <gravygoat> Twylight: I'd take a look at the /etc/xorg.conf file it uses when you use the live CD, and compare to the one you have on the HD.  Any forcing like that would be done in /etc/xorg.conf.
[03:37] <meteor-1500> still oops's
[03:37] <redcliffe> lol
[03:37] <redcliffe> oops
[03:37] <Eruantalon> phobiac: Are there any caveats?
[03:37] <stdin> redcliffe: I have to use "acpi=off pci=noacpi noapic nolapic" to boot, try that
[03:37] <redcliffe> it's part of a pci hardware probe
[03:37] <redcliffe> ok
[03:37] <Eruantalon> and is this the one where you can install linux?
[03:38] <Twylight> gravy: that's impossible, as I can't SEE the file on the HD
[03:38] <Twylight> >.<
[03:38] <redcliffe> stdin, does it matter where in the options list that is?
[03:38] <phobiac> Eruantalon: So far I've had no problems with it all. The normal firmware is powerful enough too.
[03:38] <phobiac> Eruantalon: I think it's linux, yes.
[03:38] <cpk1> Twylight: just mount the HD right now and look at it
[03:38] <gravygoat> Twylight: You can't boot to a text login either?
[03:38] <cpk1> Twylight: you cant even get anything on tty1 when you boot from HD?
[03:38] <BluesKaj> hey the Thunderbird icon suddenly disappeared ... and it isn't listed in the properties edit file type ...anyone know how to fix this bug?
[03:39] <Twylight> nope
[03:39] <phobiac> Eruantalon: If you plan on doing that though do some research first, it only works with certain versions if I remember correctly.
[03:39] <Eruantalon> phobiac: Hmm i also heard good things about linksys.
[03:39] <Twylight> hmm
[03:39] <redcliffe> stdin, nup still panics
[03:39] <Twylight> mount the HD
[03:39] <stdin> redcliffe: it shouldn't matter, but I have the them in this order "noapic nolapic acpi=off pci=noacpi"
[03:39] <phobiac> It's from linksys
[03:39] <ag3r> DaSkreech: "mount point does not exists"
[03:39] <gravygoat> Twylight: Then how do you know it's a resolution issue (if I can ask a silly question)?
[03:39] <cpk1> Twylight: well you can still mount your HD from the livecd and then look at your xorg.conf
[03:39] <phobiac> Eruantalon: It's from linksys
[03:39] <Twylight> one at a time
[03:39] <DaSkreech> ag3r: paste back what you typed
[03:39] <redcliffe> EIP acpi_hw_low_level_read
[03:39] <Twylight> I'm having trouble thinking
[03:40] <Twylight> medications and such
[03:40] <DaSkreech> dope: found it?
[03:40] <ag3r> sudo mount /dev/sda/home/ag3r/Disco1
[03:40] <dope> yea i got it
[03:40] <ag3r> sudo mount /dev/hdd /home/ag3r/Disco1
[03:40] <ag3r> this
[03:40] <redcliffe> stdin, call trace starts from pci_read, acpi_hw_register_read, pci_bus_read_config_byte, pci_fixup_device, init
[03:40] <redcliffe> dunno if that's useful
[03:40] <mortici> die file sharing die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:40] <Twylight> gravygoat: because I can run the live CD just fine
[03:41] <ag3r> DaSkreech: this is th hd im triying to mount
[03:41] <ag3r> Disco /dev/hdd: 200.0 GB, 200049647616 bytes
[03:41] <ag3r> sudo mount /dev/hdd /home/ag3r/Disco1
[03:41] <ag3r> that not okai?
[03:41] <Twylight> anyone notice that 6.10 comes without synaptic?
[03:41] <gravygoat> Twylight: I'm not trying to be dense here, but there are any number of reasons for things to not work - why do you say it's a resolution problem ?  Maybe your install just blew up when you did the HD install?
[03:41] <stdin> ag3r: you need to mount a partition, not a device, so /dev/hdd1 maybe, not /dev/hdd
[03:41] <cpk1> Twylight: mount your HD and compare the two xorg.conf files, and kubuntu uses adept not synaptic
[03:42] <stdin> redcliffe: hmm, I don't know, you can try asking in #ubuntu-kernel
[03:42] <DaSkreech> ag3r: It's not hdd it's hdd<somenumber>
[03:42] <DaSkreech> ag3r: type ls /dev/hdd <tab><tab>
[03:42] <redcliffe> stdin, ok thanks
[03:42] <DaSkreech> it should give you a few options
[03:42] <DaSkreech> tell me if you see like hdd1
[03:42] <ag3r> nope
[03:43] <ag3r> only hdd
[03:43] <DaSkreech> really?
[03:43] <ag3r> theres no partition in this hd
[03:43] <DaSkreech> Ahh
[03:43] <ag3r> hehehe
[03:43] <DaSkreech> then you need to make one :)
[03:43] <ag3r> im a fuc**n newbie
[03:43] <ag3r> xD
[03:43] <phobiac> Eruantalon: Oh, another thing. It's compatible with B + G if you get the right one, so if you have older hardware you don't have to worry.
[03:43] <ag3r> i dont know how i see hehehehe
[03:43] <DaSkreech> !partition
[03:44] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[03:44] <Eruantalon> phobiac: Looking good. REading up on it now
[03:44] <Twylight> damn
[03:44] <Twylight> I'm losing motor funnntios
[03:44] <Twylight> nini all
[03:44] <DaSkreech> ag3r: use either gparted or qtparted
[03:44] <Eruantalon> I was getting tired of having my server act as a router for the network all sorts of problems with that.
[03:44] <DaSkreech> phobiac: How was the reinstall?
[03:45] <ag3r> okei
[03:45] <ag3r> thx
[03:45] <ag3r> let me see somethiung
[03:46] <Eruantalon> phobiac: Why does it say that it requires windows?
[03:48] <danny_8> test (new IRC user) I'll be lurking
[03:48] <DaSkreech> ag3r: I use qtparted but the consensus is that Gparted is a lot better
[03:48] <DaSkreech> ag3r: you know how to install?
[03:49] <ag3r> nope
[03:49] <ag3r> but
[03:49] <ag3r> in this hd
[03:49] <ag3r> theres a partition
[03:49] <ag3r> im using it in windows
[03:50] <ag3r> but i need to learn a few things
[03:50] <ag3r> before mount it
[03:50] <ag3r> im gonna read something more
[03:50] <Eruantalon> phobiac: How good is the wireless connection. How far away does it work reasonably well?
[03:51] <ag3r> DaSkreech:
[03:51] <ag3r> theres a dev/hdd1
[03:51] <ag3r> there
[03:51] <ag3r> Disco /dev/hdd: 200.0 GB, 200049647616 bytes
[03:51] <ag3r> Disco /dev/hdd: 200.0 GB, 200049647616 bytes
[03:51] <andy___> is there any way to install kde in regular ubuntu?
[03:51] <DaSkreech> ag3r: ok does it mount ?
[03:51] <ag3r> nope
[03:51] <ag3r> mount point error
[03:51] <stdin> andy___:  just install install kubuntu-desktop from synaptic
[03:51] <DaSkreech> andy___: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:51] <ag3r> el punto de montaje home/ag3r/Disco1 no existe
[03:52] <ag3r> mount point home/ag3r/Disco1 does not exists
[03:52] <ag3r> in english :D
[03:52] <stdin> ag3r: have you make that directory ?
[03:52] <ag3r> yep
[03:52] <ag3r> i have just in front of me
[03:52] <stdin> ag3r: did you put "/home/ag3r/Disco1" or "home/ag3r/Disco1" ?
[03:53] <ag3r> ehm
[03:53] <ag3r> :$
[03:53] <ag3r> xD
[03:53] <andy___> thanks, guys
[03:54] <ag3r> DaSkreech:
[03:54] <Minataku> Aaargh... I was playing a heated game of "Under Fire" and I hit Quit (ESC) instead of P1 Start (1) :(
[03:54] <DaSkreech> ag3r: as a help you can type ~ and it always means your home folder
[03:54] <ag3r> its a type error
[03:54] <DaSkreech> ag3r: works now?
[03:54] <ag3r> sure
[03:54] <ag3r> nop
[03:54] <ag3r> i copy it to you
[03:55] <ag3r> sudo mount /dev/hdd1/ home/ag3r/Disco1
[03:55] <ag3r> sudo mount /dev/hdd1/ /home/ag3r/Disco1
[03:55] <ag3r> the same result
[03:55] <ag3r> mount point does not existe
[03:55] <ag3r> exists
[03:55] <stdin> ag3r: no slash at the end of /dev/hdd1
[03:56] <Poom> can some1 help me fix this problem
[03:56] <Poom> http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/596/snapshot7qz1.png
[03:56] <stdin> ag3r: so try: sudo mount /dev/hdd1 ~/Disco1
[03:56] <Poom> the window is painted black
[03:56] <stdin> Poom: isn't that Ubuntu (not Kubuntu)?
[03:56] <Poom> Kubuntu
[03:56] <Poom> in Kubuntu
[03:57] <ag3r> el punto de montaje /home/ag3r/Disco1 no existe
[03:57] <Poom> I have that in almost all non-kde programs
[03:57] <ag3r> im a fool!
[03:57] <ag3r> :(
[03:57] <ag3r> but i see in konkeror ----> /home/ag3r/Disco 1
[03:58] <DaSkreech> ag3r: Ah!
[03:58] <DaSkreech> sudo mount /dev/hdd1 /home/ag3r/Disco\ 1
[03:58] <stdin> darn spaces :P
[03:59] <Poom> any idea ? perhaps something related to gnome missing ?
[03:59] <ag3r> lol
[03:59] <ag3r> DaSkreech:
[03:59] <ag3r> now i dont have permissions
[03:59] <ag3r> but
[03:59] <ag3r> theres no error
[03:59] <DaSkreech> ag3r: ok try
[03:59] <ag3r> i supose it works
[04:00] <DaSkreech> sudo chown -R ag3r ~/Disco\ 1
[04:00] <ag3r> dont let me read
[04:00] <ag3r> bingo
[04:00] <ag3r> its working
[04:00] <DaSkreech> ag3r: Cool :0
[04:00] <ag3r> chown its the command to get permission?
[04:01] <DaSkreech> If you want any explanation on all that just happened just ask
[04:01] <Minataku> chown changes the ownership on a file
[04:01] <DaSkreech> it takes the owner of the folder from root and gives it to you
[04:01] <ag3r> okei
[04:01] <ag3r> but
[04:01] <ag3r> dont let me read
[04:02] <ag3r> says only read sistem
[04:02] <ag3r> its an ntfs partition
[04:03] <stdin> you need to install ntfs-3d ti write to it, and it's not that safe to write to it
[04:03] <stdin> !ntfs-3g
[04:03] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[04:03] <DaSkreech> ag3r: That's correct It's read only
[04:03] <DaSkreech> You can't write to the drive but you can read
[04:03] <ag3r> i only want to read
[04:03] <ag3r> nope
[04:04] <DaSkreech> whats on it?
[04:04] <DaSkreech> Documents?
[04:04] <ag3r> music
[04:04] <ag3r> document
[04:04] <DaSkreech> Or media files?
[04:04] <DaSkreech> and they don't work?
[04:04] <ag3r> a lot of things
[04:04] <DaSkreech> a lot of things don't work?
[04:04] <ag3r> says that i dont have permissions
[04:04] <ag3r> i cant open it
[04:04] <ag3r> i cant read it
[04:04] <stdin> for an ntfs partition try mounting like this "sudo mount /dev/hdd1 /home/ag3r/Disco\ 1 -o umask=0000"
[04:05] <ag3r> i try
[04:05] <ag3r> i have to dismount
[04:05] <ag3r> or not?
[04:05] <DaSkreech> ag3r: do that but add remount at the end
[04:05] <ag3r> okei
[04:05] <stdin> if it's already mounted, you can use "sudo mount /dev/hdd1 -o remount,umask=0000"
[04:05] <DaSkreech>  that way you don't have to unmount
[04:05] <DaSkreech> yeah :0
[04:05] <DaSkreech> ;-)
[04:07] <ag3r> 
[04:07] <ag3r> it doesnt work
[04:08] <theline> HI all... Anyone know why I can't print in OO. All others print fine
[04:08] <stdin> ag3r: any error message?
[04:08] <ag3r> i copy
[04:08] <ag3r> theres no error message
[04:08] <ag3r> i put this "sudo mount /dev/hdd1 -o remount,umask=0000"
[04:08] <ag3r> and nothing
[04:09] <ag3r> when i click in disco 1 "you dont have permissions"
[04:09] <ag3r> to read
[04:09] <DaSkreech> can you copy the line you get from ls -l ~/Disco\ 1
[04:10] <stdin> or ls -ld ~/Disco\ 1
[04:10] <ag3r> i put this in terminal
[04:10] <ag3r> and
[04:10] <ag3r> theres no response
[04:10] <ag3r> the same problem
[04:11] <ag3r> wait
[04:11] <DaSkreech> ls -l <small L> not number one
[04:11] <ag3r> dr-x------ 1 root root 65536 2007-02-01 12:48 /home/ag3r/Disco 1
[04:12] <stdin> ag3r: ok, try "sudo umount /dev/hdd1 ; sudo mount /dev/hdd1 ~/Disco\ 1 -o umask=0000"
[04:13] <ag3r> bingo
[04:13] <ag3r> :D
[04:13] <ag3r> thx
[04:13] <ag3r> whats umask?
[04:13] <stdin> you can add a line to /etc/fstab to do that automatically on boot
[04:13] <ag3r> say it to me
[04:13] <ag3r> xD
[04:13] <stdin> umask sets the permissions
[04:13] <DaSkreech> ag3r: do the ls -l again and see if you can tell the difference
[04:14] <grumbly> hello...
[04:14] <DaSkreech> ag3r: you can press up to get back the command
[04:14] <grumbly> how do I change the default framebuffer from vesafb?
[04:15] <ag3r> -xr-xr-x
[04:15] <theline> Anyone know why I can't print in OO. All others print fine
[04:15] <ag3r> :D
[04:15] <ladonlan> ag3r:  una pregunta, y no te molesto mas, 300 megas cuantos kbt son? espara indicar la particion de intercambio
[04:15] <Jucato> !es | ladonlan
[04:15] <ubotu> ladonlan: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:16] <stdin> ag3r: to mount it at boot, add this to /etc/fstab: /dev/hdd1 /home/ag3r/Disco\ 1 ntfs defaults,auto 0 0"
[04:16] <ladonlan> sorry
[04:16] <ag3r> stdin: i put this in terminal no?
[04:17] <ag3r> "/etc/fstab: /dev/hdd1 /home/ag3r/Disco\ 1 ntfs defaults,auto 0 0"
[04:17] <stdin> ag3r: no, in the file /etc/fstab
[04:17] <ag3r> okei
[04:17] <stdin> ag3r: and don't put the part "/etc/fstab:" in it :)
[04:17] <ag3r> okei
[04:18] <DaSkreech> theline: What does it do?
[04:19] <ag3r> stdin: DaSkreech
[04:19] <ag3r> thx men
[04:19] <ag3r> thx thx thx
[04:19] <ag3r> :D
[04:19] <DaSkreech> Sure :0
[04:20] <stdin> no problem :)
[04:20] <DaSkreech> Wake up someone in #kubuntu-es and stick out your tongue at them
[04:20] <dbglt> is there a way to tell if my ubuntu kernel has speedstep support built in?
[04:21] <DaSkreech> Check the flags
[04:21] <dbglt> DaSkreech: which ones, may I ask?
[04:21] <dbglt> in /proc?
[04:21] <dbglt> ...
[04:21] <DaSkreech> That's as much as I know
[04:21] <will> Hey guys, what
[04:21] <galathalion> drugs
[04:21] <dbglt> ok
[04:21] <will> what
[04:22] <DaSkreech> I know it would have to be a flag in the kernel but I've never checked my kernel flags so I'm not realyl sure how you'd get that
[04:22] <dbglt> I think my kernel upgrade has removed support for speedstep :
[04:22] <dbglt> :\
[04:22] <will> 'what's the opinion of edgy vs dapper.  I'm a newbie.  I'm using a dell laptop this a year and a half old.  I mostly am looking for ease of use.
[04:22] <dbglt> edgy
[04:23] <Glider-Mike> Edgy for the most current hardware support
[04:23] <Glider-Mike> though Dapper aint bad
[04:23] <Gretl> i switched to edgy - its nice
[04:23] <stdin> dbglt: try "grep -i speedstep /boot/config-2.6.20-6-generic"
[04:23] <will> all my hardware is old, however I might hook some new external hard drives to it in the near future
[04:23] <DaSkreech> will: How?
[04:24] <DaSkreech> E-sata?
[04:24] <will> usb
[04:24] <dbglt> m = modular
[04:24] <DaSkreech> then it doesn't matter :)
[04:24] <dbglt> maybe the module is not being inserted
[04:24] <stdin> will: my PC is over 6 years old, it runs edgy fine
[04:24] <DaSkreech> dbglt: possible
[04:24] <stdin> dbglt: maybe put it in /etc/modules then
[04:25] <dbglt> stdin: gotta figure out what the right module is first
[04:25] <dbglt> and if that is even the problem :)
[04:25] <will> cool.  alright, then that brings me to my next question.  is it important to have the computer hooked up to the internet when doing a clean install off of downloaded CDs
[04:26] <stdin> will: if you don't then you'll have to setup the internet connection after the install, then you'll probably need to enable the software sources in adept, but it's not required to have internet access
[04:27] <stdin> dbglt: modinfo may help, eg "modinfo speedstep-ich"
[04:27] <will> cool.  and does anyone have a recommended source list for Edgy?
[04:27] <dbglt> FATAL: Error inserting speedstep_ich (/lib/modules/2.6.20-6-generic/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/speedstep-ich.ko): No such device
[04:28] <stdin> will: you can get one at the source-o-matic site
[04:29] <stdin> dbglt: it's not that one then :P
[04:29] <DaSkreech> !easysource
[04:29] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:29] <dbglt> stdin: I'm using a core 2 duo intel processor
[04:29] <dbglt> I tried all the speedstep-modules
[04:30] <dbglt> and for some reason I don't have a speedstep_centrino module
[04:31] <will> Thanks guys.
[04:34] <stdin> dbglt: what kernel version do you have?
[04:34] <dbglt> 2.6.20-6-generic
[04:34] <dbglt> centrino not needed there
[04:34] <stdin> ahh, feisty
[04:34] <dbglt> none of them work though
[04:34] <dbglt> it worked until I updated the kernel...
[04:34] <dbglt> but I'm not sure if it is kernel related
[04:35] <stdin> I can't find it in 2.6.20-* , it's in 2.6.17 tho
[04:35] <dbglt> aye. I ran 2.6.20-5 with speedstep
[04:35] <dbglt> so it musn't be used anymore
[04:36] <dewitts> does any one know why openoffice freezes up on my when trying to open a xls file?
[04:36] <dewitts> from mysql?
[04:36] <dewitts> its 700 kb
[04:43] <smaggard> i finally got it... geez lol chroot sftp
[04:43] <Murrlin> man, I'm bestookered if I can figure out what to do or even how it happened.
[04:43] <Murrlin> I lost my /dev/dsp
[04:43] <smaggard> man thats no good
[04:44] <Murrlin> (kubuntu 6.06)
[04:44] <will> hey what's the best format for backing up DVDs?
[04:45] <smaggard> iunno..
[04:45] <smaggard> whadya mean format? like + or - R is ur question?
[04:45] <will> no.  like divx? quicktime?  etc.  Is divx the same as mv4?
[04:48] <Balsamic_Chicken> !pastebin | yuk
[04:48] <ubotu> yuk: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:49] <Murrlin> no, its there. but its busy.
[04:49] <Murrlin> how do I tell what's using /dev/dsp?
[04:50] <stdin> fuser -v /dev/sdp maybe
[04:50] <stdin> or lsof|grep /dev/sdp
[04:52] <notech> typo'd twice in a row? :)
[04:52] <stdin> yep, but I'm trying to learn to touch type
[04:53] <stdin> so i'm not looking down
[04:53] <stdin> I need to slow down tho :P
[04:54] <hatta> irc is good practice
[04:54] <biza> u should learn dvorak
[04:57] <adwelin> i dont understand how to install packages
[04:57] <angasule> !adept | adwelin
[04:57] <ubotu> adwelin: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[04:58] <angasule> adwelin: have you read that? It may help
[04:59] <adwelin> yes but i downloaded avg antivirus and i cant install it
[04:59] <Kanuha> I put my PC in the family room and hooked it up to our big screen tv, only when I try to install ubuntu, it has the wrong resolution. How can I get it to start ubuntu with a different resolution without ubuntu running?
[05:00] <esaym> man ssh -X is kick ass! lol
[05:00] <stdin> !antivirus | adwelin
[05:00] <ubotu> adwelin: antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[05:00] <stdin> !linuxvirus
[05:00] <ubotu> The short life and hard times of a Linux Virus http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[05:00] <adwelin> ok
[05:00] <stdin> esaym: use -C to get compression too :)
[05:00] <Murrlin> neither fuser or lsof line showed snything
[05:00] <adwelin> thanks
[05:01] <esaym> I will try that
[05:01] <adwelin> i'm really new on unbtu and i'm trying things...
[05:01] <stdin> adwelin: viruses are really just a windows thing :P
[05:01] <angasule> !repository
[05:01] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:02] <Minataku> Wow... that's the first time I ever used lsof... that's a lot of lines
[05:02] <angasule> !repository | adwelin
[05:02] <ubotu> adwelin: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:02] <danychouinard> Hello. With xinerama, should I be able to have different screen resolution?
[05:04] <danychouinard> How can I tell KDE to set a resolution on my second screen that is not in the liste (I need 1440x900)?
[05:04] <stdin> you'll need to reconfigure the X server for that
[05:04] <stdin> !xconfig
[05:04] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[05:04] <stdin> use the 2nd command there
[05:05] <stdin> and a helpful help page :) http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:05] <ForgeAus> !grub
[05:05] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:06] <danychouinard> well, it was easier to use aticonfig --dtop=horizontal --overlay-on=1
[05:07] <danychouinard> I had to tell KDE in the control panel to extend the display on the second screen.
[05:10] <biza> !groups
[05:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about groups - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:10] <biza> !users
[05:10] <ubotu> To add new users to your Ubuntu system, follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto - For administrative privileges, users need to be made members of the group "admin" - See !sudo
[05:10] <biza> !sudo
[05:10] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:17] <AxlRose> can anyone help me with themes
[05:17] <phobiac> Katapult won't open firefox
[05:17] <AxlRose> I'm having a heck of a time getting any to work
[05:17] <stdin> !changethemes
[05:17] <ubotu> [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[05:18] <phobiac> Katapult won't open firefox but any other means of opening it work fine.
[05:18] <phobiac> Any ideas?
[05:19] <Minataku> Hm
[05:19] <Minataku> !gputils
[05:19] <ubotu> gputils: GNU PIC utilities. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.13.3-1 (edgy), package size 1272 kB, installed size 11104 kB
[05:19] <Minataku> Cool
[05:20] <AxlRose> so u have to get themese from the Theme-Manager area.....what is the point of ht KDE3.2-3.5 section for then?
[05:20] <Dr_willis> get themes from the theme manager area?
[05:21] <|mmortal> hey can someone send me a file i need to ese if my dcc is working
[05:21] <Dr_willis> I get theme 'parts' from the kde-look.org site.
[05:21] <Minataku> !gpsim
[05:22] <ubotu> gpsim: Simulator for Microchip's PIC microcontrollers. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.20.14-7.3 (edgy), package size 476 kB, installed size 1604 kB
[05:22] <Minataku> Awesome
[05:22] <AxlRose> Dr_willis:  I am talking about kde-look
[05:22] <AxlRose> Dr_willis:  but under Theme/Styles there are different categories
[05:22] <Dr_willis> kde-look.org is so dissorganized its scary
[05:23] <AxlRose> Dr_willis:  definatately
[05:23] <AxlRose> Dr_willis:  I've tried downloading so many different things and NONE of them have been themes
[05:23] <AxlRose> Dr_willis:  but they were in the Theme area
[05:24] <Minataku> Too bad I don't really care for the PIC's way of subtracting... Subtract W from literal... that's so backwards :\
[05:24] <AxlRose> Dr_willis:  take this for example
[05:25] <AxlRose> Dr_willis:  http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=52343
[05:25] <AxlRose> Dr_willis:  I like the look of it, so I try installing it...and I get NOTHING
[05:25] <Dr_willis> Because I Care! :)
[05:26] <Dr_willis> that is a 'style'
[05:26] <Dr_willis> lets seeif it compiles
[05:26] <AxlRose> it compiled and installed for me
[05:26] <AxlRose> vut it doesn't show up anywhere
[05:27] <Dr_willis> the fact it untared into a dir named 'vista' is enough to make me not want to touch it.
[05:27] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:27] <AxlRose> lol
[05:29] <Dr_willis> its not wanting to compile.. due most likely to me not having the right Qt Dev files installed.. and the fact ive upgrade to kde 3.6.6
[05:29] <AxlRose> it compiled for me
[05:29] <AxlRose> and installed
[05:30] <AxlRose> but it installed some Lipstick theme things
[05:30] <AxlRose> which I though were already included
[05:30] <stdin> I think I compiled that (someone was having trouble with it), but they couldn't get it working, and I didn't bother installing it
[05:30] <Dr_willis> its a Qt issue here.. and i really aint going to work too hard to chase it down. :)
[05:30] <Dr_willis> Its HIGHLY possible the theme installed to the wrong kde dirs..
[05:31] <AxlRose> so how do I know what's actullay a theme haha
[05:31] <Boo1> ADULT FORUM , EXOTICS FORUM ::::::::::: http://exotics.ezbbforum.com ..
[05:31] <Boo1> ADULT FORUM , EXOTICS FORUM ::::::::::: http://exotics.ezbbforum.com ..
[05:31] <Boo1> ADULT FORUM , EXOTICS FORUM ::::::::::: http://exotics.ezbbforum.com .
[05:32] <Dr_willis> AxlRose,  Technoicially a "THEME" is a file that defines what style/color/iconset to use.
[05:32] <ForgeAus> whats a good download manager for firefox?
[05:32] <Hobbsee> the one inside it?
[05:32] <Minataku> Indeed
[05:32] <AxlRose> Dr_willis:  ya..and thats what I want to download...but alot of the stuff on KDE-look doesn't do that :S
[05:33] <Minataku> Hm...
[05:33] <Minataku> !pikdev
[05:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pikdev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:33] <Minataku> Aw
[05:33] <ForgeAus> whats pikdev?
[05:33] <makuseru> how can i play .avi's?
[05:33] <Minataku> Just something I was looking up
[05:34] <Minataku> It's an IDE for Microchip PIC development
[05:34] <Minataku> My microprocessor class uses PIC16F84A
[05:34] <Dr_willis> AxlRose,  try   ./configure --prefix=/usr   and recompile/installing that theme
[05:34] <AxlRose> Dr_willis:  tryed it
[05:34] <stdin> makuseru: you probably need w32codecs for that
[05:34] <makuseru> have them
[05:34] <AxlRose> Dr_willis:  i've given up on that one
[05:35] <stdin> makuseru: AVI is just a container, there are tons of codecs used in them, so some you can't play
[05:35] <makuseru> well how do i find out what i nee
[05:35] <makuseru> d
[05:36] <Gretl> you can try the automatx or easyubuntu scrpipts
[05:36] <Dr_willis> play the file from a shell and with mplayer whatever.avi (or vlc whatever.avi) and see what they show it as
[05:36] <Dr_willis> theres ways to install the codecs WITHOUT using the potentially dangerous scripts like that
[05:36] <stdin> makuseru: try "file /path/to/file.avi" and see if you get a codec
[05:37] <stdin> Gretl: yeah, if you want a useless system when you upgrade
[05:37] <makuseru> stdin: so "file movie.avi"
[05:37] <Dr_willis> cool. file does that. :)
[05:37] <Dr_willis> never noticed THAT feature befor
[05:37] <stdin> yep :)
[05:37] <Dr_willis> video: XviD, audio: MPEG-1 Layer 3 (stereo, 48000 Hz)
[05:38] <makuseru> stdin: 1.avi: data
[05:38] <Dr_willis> lol
[05:38] <stdin> ahh, god knows then
[05:38] <Dr_willis> my file is smarter then your file. :)
[05:38] <makuseru> convert it to mpeg?
[05:39] <Minataku> If it says "data" then it's possible it's actually just garbage
[05:39] <makuseru> noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[05:39] <Dr_willis> try playing it with vlc from the shell it 'should' state what kind of file/codecs it sees
[05:39] <Minataku> I haven't come across a legit video file yet that file(1) hasn't identified
[05:39] <makuseru> k, just a sec
[05:40] <Minataku> mplayer also attempts to figure out the codecs
[05:40] <Minataku> If you have that give it a run as well
[05:40] <Fleebailey33> vlc
[05:40] <makuseru> it dosnt say
[05:40] <Dr_willis> darn vlc.. ya USED to do that..
[05:40] <Dr_willis> vlc -v whatever.avi
[05:40] <Dr_willis> for verbvose :)
[05:40] <Fleebailey33> =)
[05:41] <Minataku> Try mplayer if VLC fails, run from the CLI mplayer is always loud
[05:41] <Dr_willis>  vlc -v2  whatever.avi
[05:41] <Dr_willis> THAT will get ya lota of info.
[05:42] <makuseru> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3918/
[05:42] <Dr_willis> player says for me.. like...
[05:42] <Dr_willis> AVI file format detected.
[05:42] <Dr_willis> VIDEO:  [XVID]   720x480  24bpp  29.970 fps  793.7 kbps (96.9 kbyte/s)
[05:43] <Dr_willis> Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg]  FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family
[05:43] <Dr_willis> Selected video codec: [ffodivx]  vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg MPEG-4)
[05:43] <Minataku> makuseru: As I feared...
[05:43] <Minataku> What you have there is a file full of trash
[05:43] <makuseru> junk?
[05:43] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:43] <makuseru> dammit
[05:43] <Dr_willis> No Porn 4 U !
[05:43] <Minataku> lol
[05:44] <makuseru> its not porn
[05:44] <makuseru> Tenacious D
[05:44] <Dr_willis> No Henti?
[05:44] <makuseru> no
[05:44] <Minataku> file(1) is fairly inaccurate, but unless it's something really exotic or just plain garbage, it doesn't say "data"
[05:44] <stdin> it's probably a windows virus disguised as an avi :P
[05:44] <Minataku> I was looking at hentai since I was at least 15
[05:44] <Dr_willis> So you watch Sailor Moon? :)
[05:45] <makuseru> XD
[05:45] <makuseru> no
[05:45] <makuseru> Minataku: i am 15
[05:45] <Dr_willis> Camp Lazlo ?
[05:45] <Minataku> Camp Lazlo isn't anime
[05:45] <Dr_willis> Its all anime...
[05:45] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:45] <Minataku> Good show, though
[05:45] <makuseru> Minataku: *shoves various mangas under my bed* shhhh
[05:45] <Minataku> makuseru: lol
[05:45] <Dr_willis> I like the "Fosters Home for Imaginary Friends" - its one of the better done cartoons out.
[05:46] <Dr_willis> always amuseing...
[05:46] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Eh... Bloo pisses me off
[05:46] <WMCoolmon> hi, i was wondering if anyone knew how to get CVS working on a drive mounted with NTFS-3G?
[05:46] <makuseru> i like, no american shows
[05:46] <Dr_willis> The whole "Aqua Teen Hunger Force" thing - needs to be killed off badly.
[05:46] <Minataku> Hey
[05:46] <Minataku> ATHF rules
[05:46] <Dr_willis> Drools.. :)
[05:46] <makuseru> haha, ATHF, Boston
[05:46] <Dr_willis> Harvy Birdman Attourny at Law.. - THAT RUles. :)
[05:47] <Minataku> Boston; now America's most retarded city
[05:47] <Dr_willis> I can see it now.. Harvy has to defent those 2 guys arrested for the ATHF stunt!
[05:47] <Minataku> Or perhaps
[05:47] <makuseru> the only reason i watch Adult Swin is for the ocasional good dubbing they do of an anime, like FLCL
[05:47] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. that has potential.
[05:47] <Dr_willis> Venture Brothers - is enteraining.
[05:47] <Minataku> Boston; The only place on Earth where something similar to a Lite-Brite can be "mistaken" for a bomb
[05:48] <Dr_willis> Squidbillies.
[05:48] <Minataku> Keep in mind these things were all over about 10 cities
[05:48] <Minataku> Including New York City
[05:48] <makuseru> really?
[05:48] <Dr_willis> If i had seen any.. i would of stole them. :)
[05:48] <Dr_willis> makuseru,  yes..  :)
[05:48] <Minataku> Yeah
[05:48] <makuseru> all the news stations photoshiopped out the middle finger
[05:48] <Minataku> Note that nobody in NYC was stupid enough to think an LED sign was a bomb
[05:48] <makuseru> cause them terrorists like to advertize their bombs
[05:49] <Dr_willis> the caracter HAS no middle finger.. :) its just  a blocky pixxle - space invaders guy.
[05:49] <makuseru> lol
[05:49] <Dr_willis> Hes made of like 16x16 Pixles :)
[05:49] <Minataku> I'll tell you what, I'd be afraid to buy a clock in Boston now
[05:49] <Minataku> Get it out of the store and someone will scream "IT'S A BOMB"
[05:49] <makuseru> ha
[05:49] <WMCoolmon> anyone? i'm getting "cvs [update aborted] : cannot get working directory: No such file or directory"
[05:50] <Minataku> God forbid I buy anything at a Radio Shack in Boston
[05:50] <Minataku> lol
[05:50] <makuseru> i dont wanna know what they put up for a Metalocalypse movie
[05:51] <Dr_willis> those signs are selling on Ebay for like $500
[05:51] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Negative
[05:51] <Dr_willis> makuseru,  barff bags?
[05:51] <Minataku> eBay is killing all those auctions
[05:51] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:51] <makuseru> ha
[05:51] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  bummer.. :) wonder why.
[05:51] <Dr_willis> Ebay has no.. *$#*@&*@ any more it seems.
[05:51] <Minataku> Because eBay ??????? sucks
[05:51] <makuseru> eBay had the inflatable s[pongebobs people stole from burgerking
[05:51] <Dr_willis> what if you MADE your own..
[05:52] <Minataku> Well, technically they are auctions selling stolen property
[05:52] <Dr_willis> but ebay cant get rid of these 'what you are buying is the right to download the plans.. to make your own perpetual motionmachine...'
[05:52] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:52] <Dr_willis> they left them ... :) did they put a return address on them?
[05:52] <Dr_willis> abandonware!
[05:52] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Or the nigerian spammers hijacking accounts and tanking auctions when people don't fall for it
[05:53] <makuseru> or the people selling "a awesome guitar riff, sure to be a hit" only 5l
[05:53] <makuseru> 5k*
[05:53] <WMCoolmon> Does anyone know where I could ask how to get CVS working on NTFS-3G and get a helpful response? I've been searching Google and the Ubuntu forums, but haven't gotten anything besides false hits
[05:53] <cpk2> my network interface isnt listening to me =\
[05:53] <Minataku> WMCoolmon: I'm assuming you want to checkout the latest NTFS-3G code?
[05:53] <Dr_willis> cpk2,  sounds like my wife.
[05:53] <Dr_willis> slap it around some...
[05:53] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:54] <Minataku> lol
[05:54] <cpk2> i've been trying that, it isnt even listening to its good friend /etc/network/interfaces
[05:55] <cpk2> how do you bring an interface down with ifconfig? ifdown says it isnt configured but ifconfig says it is
[05:55] <WMCoolmon> Minataku: i can certainly try that. Should i remove the NTFS-3G packages before compiling the latest version myself, and is there anything special i need to do to compile? (using an AMD64, if that's relevant)
[05:55] <stdin> cpk2: example: sudo ifconfig eth0 down
[05:56] <cpk2> stdin: that doesnt work, what I was looking for was ifconfig del and i found it =)
[05:56] <Minataku> WMCoolmon: First, self-compiling is highly discouraged, since it confuses the hell out of the package manager
[05:56] <cpk2> nevermind ifconfig eth1 del doesnt seem to work either argh
[05:57] <Minataku> WMCoolmon: Second, yes and no respectively, then make sure you keep the first point in mind at all times
[06:01] <draik> Hello all
[06:01] <draik> I have an audio issue
[06:02] <draik> I can't hear mp3s that are online
[06:02] <draik> What do I need to hear mp3s in Mozilla's Firefox?
[06:03] <crimsun> draik: meaning through youtube or something else using Flash?
[06:03] <draik> crimsun: I mean through just a simple HTML that I have on my site and MySpace acct
[06:04] <crimsun> draik: are you using the backport of Flash 9 final from -backports?
[06:04] <draik> I had to redo my Kubuntu install and didn't get a chance to save my packages
[06:04] <draik> or my packages list
[06:04] <draik> Yes I am
[06:04] <cpk2> hrmm i thought dhcpd was supposed to be easy...
[06:05] <crimsun> draik: while you're attempting to play mp3s from a Web site, lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*
[06:05] <draik> crimsun: any ideas?
[06:06] <makuseru> anyone heard of/use IceWeasel?
[06:06] <crimsun> pastebin the output (see topic)
[06:06] <stdin> makuseru: it's just firefox with a different name/logo
[06:06] <makuseru> i know
[06:06] <makuseru> i have it
[06:07] <makuseru> i heard it was going to be a package in Feisty
[06:07] <draik> That is what I get
[06:07] <draik> crimsun: ^^
[06:07] <Minataku> It's Debian's retarded rebranding of Firefox
[06:07] <makuseru> i know
[06:07] <crimsun> draik: please use pastebin
[06:07] <makuseru> because FF wouldnt let them change the logo
[06:08] <cpk2> anyone want to help me with dhcpd?
[06:08] <draik> !pastebin
[06:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:09] <draik> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/338094
[06:09] <stdin> makuseru: nope, it's not in feisty, at least not yet
[06:09] <stdin> makuseru: don't think it will be, as it's just a re-branded firefox
[06:10] <cpk2> woohooo they talk to each other!
[06:11] <crimsun> draik: nothing appears to be attempting to play an mp3 in your Web browser
[06:11] <crimsun> draik: do you have libxine-extracodecs installed?
[06:11] <draik> Yes
[06:11] <makuseru> anyone know when Herd3 is out?
[06:12] <stdin> makuseru: it is out now
[06:12] <makuseru> it is?
[06:12] <makuseru> i knew it was soon
[06:12] <stdin> yep
[06:12] <makuseru> but i didnt know if it was out yet or not
[06:12] <crimsun> draik: I need that lsof output when you're attempting to play an mp3 in your Web browser
[06:12] <theshadow> How do I updated to the latest version? (yea I'm new)
[06:12] <theshadow> update*
[06:12] <draik> I am trying
[06:12] <draik> err... I am
[06:12] <makuseru> ill probably upgrade at herd 4
[06:13] <stdin> makuseru: same way you go from dapper -> edgy
[06:14] <makuseru> i know
[06:14] <makuseru> ill probably do it the same way, change it in my sources.list
[06:15] <stdin> draik: try changing "FIREFOX_DSP="none"" to "FIREFOX_DSP="auto"" or "FIREFOX_DSP="artsdap"" in /etc/firefox/firefoxrc
[06:15] <theshadow> how do I upgrade from dapper drake to edgy?
[06:15] <trojanek> In KDevelop, I'm trying to get rid of the "little x's" that show up when a line is wrapped. Does anyone know how to do this?
[06:15] <stdin> !upgrade | theshadow
[06:15] <ubotu> theshadow: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[06:15] <makuseru> theshadow: DL a ccd
[06:17] <Minataku> arts needs to be destroyed... Why is there an idiotic abstraction in front of the audio device
[06:17] <Minataku> ?
[06:17] <stdin> so more than one app can use the device at the same time
[06:18] <Minataku> I have that ability without a retarded abstraction layer
[06:19] <Minataku> Not to mention the fact that only one app should be using the audio device at any given time anyway
[06:19] <crimsun> Minataku: not everyone does.
[06:19] <Minataku> Ever accidentally play two songs at once? Sounds like crap. XD
[06:19] <stdin> Minataku: why should only 1 app be able to use the device at a time ?
[06:19] <cpk2> how about play a video game and listen to music?
[06:20] <ForgeAus> how many herds are there goina be?
[06:20] <stdin> or listening to music and getting audio notifications
[06:20] <cpk2> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE should be the quick and dirty way of natting through a box right?
[06:20] <makuseru> or listning to two songs at once
[06:20] <stdin> ForgeAus: 5
[06:20] <Minataku> lol
[06:20] <draik> stdin: Nope. That didn't do anything
[06:20] <Minataku> Like I said, I have NO abstraction, just an audio device
[06:20] <stdin> draik: did you restart firefox after ?
[06:21] <ForgeAus> ok so I'll wait for the fawn after 5 :)
[06:21] <draik> Yup
[06:21] <draik> stdin: Yup. After each change
[06:21] <Minataku> And I can use multiple sound-causing apps at once providing one doesn't be a jerk and hog the device
[06:21] <ForgeAus> (after herd 5 I mean)
[06:21] <stdin> ForgeAus: uh, actually it's 6, just checked :P
[06:21] <draik> stdin: If I go to the direct link of the mp3, I get an image of "No Video"
[06:21] <Minataku> In which case something like arts is useless anyway since the app isn't using arts
[06:21] <Minataku> It's just more memory-eating rubbish if you ask me
[06:22] <ForgeAus> ok then I'll wait for the herd after 5 and re-evaluate then
[06:22] <stdin> ForgeAus: herd 6 will be out on April 5th, just 2 weeks before release
[06:22] <makuseru> herd 6 = basically stable?
[06:22] <Balsamic_Chicken> what's herd6?
[06:22] <Balsamic_Chicken> o
[06:22] <Balsamic_Chicken> that herd
[06:23] <Balsamic_Chicken> do they have a new look in desktop yet
[06:23] <ForgeAus> stablish?
[06:23] <Balsamic_Chicken> cuz current once are ugly
[06:23] <Balsamic_Chicken> been ugly actually
[06:23] <ForgeAus> I like edgy desktop
[06:23] <ForgeAus> its a little plain but not ugly imho...
[06:24] <makuseru> will Feisty have KDE4?
[06:24] <crimsun> Minataku: so what's muxing, your dsp or alsa-lib? :)
[06:24] <Balsamic_Chicken> i like standard kubuntu edgy desktop, ubuntu standard edgy desktop is brown like crap, saw lots of people complain in forums
[06:24] <ForgeAus> of course I've done some theming to tweak it but I still got same wallpaper, just themed the decorators mostly
[06:24] <Balsamic_Chicken> hence the ugly part =)
[06:24] <stdin> Balsamic_Chicken: herd 6 will be the 6th development release of feisty, it will be a beta
[06:24] <Minataku> crimsun: Probably the entire ALSA subsystem
[06:24] <ForgeAus> lol I don't like the brown either
[06:24] <Balsamic_Chicken> stdin hi stdin =) long time no see
[06:24] <WMCoolmon> Minataku: Managed to get the problem fixed. I dug around a little more, and used the compile instructions for dapper on the Ubuntu forums (which build *.debs) to get everything. Works fine so far. Thanks. :)
[06:24] <ForgeAus> but I do make my ubuntu-desktop brown, chocolate brown
[06:24] <Minataku> WMCoolmon: np
[06:24] <crimsun> Minataku: erm, what?
[06:24] <Balsamic_Chicken> stdin: cool, does that mean new wallpaper? hehe
[06:24] <stdin> makuseru: not likely, you should ask in #kubuntu-devel tho
[06:25] <ForgeAus> (the deeper one)
[06:25] <stdin> Balsamic_Chicken: heh, probably :P
[06:25] <Balsamic_Chicken> nice =)
[06:25] <ForgeAus> theres a light brown defualt one
[06:25] <Minataku> crimsun: To put it short... I don't know
[06:25] <Minataku> lol
[06:25] <crimsun> Minataku: cat /proc/asound/modules
[06:26] <Minataku> Sorry about that, I tend to complain about things that I think are stupid... never been one for abstraction layers... I have the belief that it's the kernel's job to handle hardware
[06:26] <ForgeAus> I hope the kde alternatives configuration gets some more options
[06:26] <draik> crimsun: Didn't you get my pastebin?
[06:26] <draik> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/338094
[06:26] <Minataku> crimsun: No such file /proc/asound/modules
[06:27] <crimsun> Minataku: using a self-compiled kernel?
[06:27] <crimsun> draik: I asked you for more information that I'm awaiting.
[06:27] <Minataku> crimsun: I should inform you that I use Gentoo, not Kubuntu
[06:27] <Minataku> lol
[06:27] <Balsamic_Chicken> crimsun: i was trying to watch prisonbreak on myspace.com/fox, i couldn't do it on kubuntu, reason is: even tho i told firefox to immitate/tell myspace that i'm on ie6 of xp2, fox myspace will only allow video to be played if i install another plugin player, one that ended in .exe, if there is some way, what is this way that can help me install the .exe into firefox, thx very much
[06:27] <Minataku> Balsamic_Chicken: Give up now
[06:27] <ForgeAus> Gentoo + KDE?
[06:27] <draik> what other info?
[06:27] <crimsun> Minataku: uh, right. So, cat /proc/asound/cards
[06:27] <Minataku> It's DRM'd
[06:27] <ForgeAus> if you used Gentoo + Gnome I'd wonder why your in #Kubuntu at all lol!
[06:27] <Balsamic_Chicken> Minataku that's not nice =(, hehe
[06:28] <Minataku> Balsamic_Chicken: Sorry, but it's the only option
[06:28] <Balsamic_Chicken> crimsun that prolly didn't belong in this channel but i was asking just cuz u seemed to know alot more =)
[06:28] <crimsun> Balsamic_Chicken: huh? What's preventing you from using Flash 9?
[06:28] <Minataku> The content is protected, there's no way to view it in Linux short of using WINE
[06:28] <Minataku>                       ALI 5451 at 0xed00, irq 11
[06:28] <Balsamic_Chicken> crimsun hurmm, could u try watch it, i'll hand u the link, one sec
[06:29] <crimsun> Minataku: alsa-lib (in userspace) is muxing.
[06:29] <Minataku> Ah
[06:29] <markc> anyone know where I configure this ? --> You may replace bluez's pin helper program with kbluepin; it is located in /opt/kde/lib/kdebluetooth now.
[06:29] <Balsamic_Chicken> crimsun: http://creative.myspace.com/VOD/prison_break/index.html
[06:29] <Balsamic_Chicken> crimsun: could u try watch that on firefox, thx
[06:29] <crimsun> Balsamic_Chicken: I'm on a ttys, so I can't watch that.
[06:30] <Balsamic_Chicken> o, what's a ttys, just for future reference
[06:30] <crimsun> a terminal connection
[06:30] <Balsamic_Chicken> o
[06:30] <Balsamic_Chicken> can anyone try watch it, thx =)
[06:30] <Minataku> Balsamic_Chicken: Give up.
[06:30] <Balsamic_Chicken> Minataku u'll never be able to watch it if u do that
[06:30] <snowrichard> says check back later for other os support
[06:30] <Minataku> It uses a proprietary video player with insane license terms
[06:31] <Minataku> The content is protected via DRM
[06:31] <Balsamic_Chicken> snowrichard i think u can tell firefox to immitate xp2, but u still have to install a player
[06:31] <Minataku> There is NO WAY TO VIEW THE CONTENT ON GNU/LINUX
[06:31] <Balsamic_Chicken> ......
[06:31] <Balsamic_Chicken> so sad
[06:31] <Balsamic_Chicken> btw u forgot to press cap lock again
[06:31] <Minataku> I don't use Caps Lock
[06:32] <Balsamic_Chicken> u forgot to let go of shift
[06:32] <crimsun> chill with the caps.
[06:32] <Balsamic_Chicken> o well thx everyone
[06:32] <Balsamic_Chicken> it's still good to know
[06:32] <Balsamic_Chicken> that i can't watch it hehe
[06:32] <Minataku> I hold down shift when I yell at people or give parts of text greater visibility
[06:32] <Minataku> In this case, it was the latter
[06:32] <Balsamic_Chicken> that's my point, try not to do that =( meanie
[06:32] <Minataku> Balsamic_Chicken: Sorry
[06:32] <Balsamic_Chicken> i was kidding =) i don't mind
[06:33] <Minataku> But I did tell you in the first place the same thing
[06:33] <Minataku> lol
[06:33] <Minataku> Yeah, FOX DRMs the crap on Myspace TV
[06:33] <Balsamic_Chicken> no it wasn't the same thing, if u lower capped and said there's no way to watch it, i wouldn't have kept on asking
[06:33] <snowrichard> my isp blocks youtube says its sex
[06:34] <Balsamic_Chicken> at first u just said give up with no reason
[06:34] <Minataku> [00:25:20]  Minataku It's DRM'd
[06:34] <draik> crimsun: What other information do you need from me?
[06:34] <Balsamic_Chicken> lets get techniqual (='.'=)
[06:34] <Balsamic_Chicken> !DRM
[06:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about DRM - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:34] <Balsamic_Chicken> see even ubotu don't know what ur talking about =)
[06:34] <Minataku> That was appx 13s after I told you to give up
[06:35] <Minataku> !DRM is Digital Restrictions Management; read about it at defectivebydesign.org
[06:35] <Balsamic_Chicken> about .5s before ur last msg, don't think i need to retype
[06:35] <crimsun> draik: lsof output while you're attempting to play an mp3 in your Web browser
[06:35] <draik> I am trying to play an mp3
[06:35] <Balsamic_Chicken> see now if u [21:35] 'd earlier, that would have at least prompted my questions in the right way
[06:35] <Balsamic_Chicken> even u think DRM is too long to explain here
[06:36] <Minataku> Balsamic_Chicken: Well, I apologize for using caps
[06:36] <Balsamic_Chicken> much direct answer woulda been: no way to watch it
[06:36] <ForgeAus> can I somehow change the GTK icon theme from in KDE?
[06:36] <Balsamic_Chicken> i was kidding
[06:36] <Balsamic_Chicken> sorry
[06:36] <crimsun> draik: so...pastebin.
[06:36] <Balsamic_Chicken> i'm just procrastinating from having to complete essay
[06:36] <draik> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/338094
[06:36] <Balsamic_Chicken> and i get to type fast so my partner thinks i'm franctically typing up essay
[06:36] <Balsamic_Chicken> anyways
[06:36] <ForgeAus> does GTK even have icon themes?
[06:37] <ForgeAus> blue is much better than brown anyway!
[06:37] <ForgeAus> it only really affect VMware and Firefox that I use
[06:37] <ForgeAus> lotsa other GTK apps but few that I actually use
[06:37] <draik> crimsun:
[06:37] <draik> COMMAND    PID  USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME
[06:38] <draik> artsd     4885 draik  mem    CHR  116,5      8261 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
[06:38] <draik> artsd     4885 draik   12u   CHR  116,5      8261 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
[06:38] <draik> kmix      4894 draik   11u   CHR  116,7      8275 /dev/snd/controlC0
[06:38] <draik> amarokapp 6653 draik  mem    CHR  116,5      8261 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
[06:38] <draik> amarokapp 6653 draik   14u   CHR  116,7      8275 /dev/snd/controlC0
[06:38] <draik> amarokapp 6653 draik   18u   CHR  116,5      8261 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
[06:38] <draik> whoops
[06:38] <draik> sorry
[06:38] <draik> I could have sworn I just copy the link
[06:38] <snowrichard> pastebin :)
[06:38] <draik> http://pastebin.ca/338131
[06:39] <draik> Sorry everyone
[06:39] <draik> I didn't mean to flood
[06:39] <Jucato> tsk tsk
[06:39] <draik> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/338131
[06:39] <ForgeAus> hmmm you call that a flood? lol
[06:39] <draik> well.. you know
[06:39] <draik> let me rephrase
[06:39] <ForgeAus> seems like an honest mistake anyhow
[06:39] <smaggard> lol
[06:39] <makuseru> stop taking things form yourself Jucato
[06:39] <Jucato> haha
[06:39] <Jucato> ChanServ gave it to me when I didn't need it :P
[06:39] <smaggard> floods are cool
[06:40] <stdin> he was just stretching his op muscles
[06:40] <draik> Sorry for not paying attention to what I was doing
[06:40] <ForgeAus> no they're not... not real oned
[06:40] <ForgeAus> grr ones
[06:40] <smaggard> i love floods :D
[06:40] <makuseru> i saw someone paste there xorg untill they got kicked for flooding
[06:40] <smaggard> but i dont know how to do them
[06:40] <crimsun> draik: ls /tmp/*dmix*
[06:40] <draik> makuseru: LOL, now THAT'S a flood
[06:40] <makuseru> very
[06:40] <ForgeAus> lol Xorg! thats a little over the top I think
[06:41] <draik> crimsun: No such file or directory
[06:41] <ForgeAus> mandriva Metisse, now thats eyecandy!
[06:41] <makuseru> ew
[06:41] <makuseru> BERYL
[06:41] <smaggard> ive seen someone set their bot to keep posting system info
[06:41] <makuseru> is the awesome
[06:41] <draik> What is Beryl?
[06:41] <makuseru> kubuntu was getting spammed by porn bots yesterday
[06:41] <draik> !beryl
[06:41] <ForgeAus> 3d desktop
[06:41] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:41] <smaggard> beryl is eye candy
[06:41] <ForgeAus> (its how oyu get the desktop cube)
[06:41] <makuseru> beryl = besy eyecandy ever
[06:41] <dawn> pron bots
[06:41] <Jucato> draik: beryl is a fork of compiz
[06:41] <Minataku> In XChat "/exec -o cat /dev/urandom" is a nice way to flood
[06:42] <Minataku> Really screws with irssi users too
[06:42] <Jucato> and a real good way to get banned :)
[06:42] <smaggard> but beryl will screw with yourn graphics... well i shouldnt say that, its only cuz i have a crappy ati laptop that doesnt have a working linux driver.
[06:42] <Minataku> Indeed
[06:42] <Minataku> lol
[06:42] <makuseru> smaggard: i have a radeon 7000
[06:42] <Jucato> you'd know the feeling, wouldn't you Minataku? :P
[06:42] <makuseru> its SUPER SUPER old
[06:42] <Minataku> lol
[06:42] <smaggard> i have the xpress 200m
[06:42] <crimsun> draik: so either arts or amarok is configured to use hw:X,Y directly, which prevents playing multiple sounds simultaneously
[06:42] <smaggard> broke driver since 8.28.8
[06:43] <makuseru> i cant even use fglrx
[06:43] <draik> crimsun: fix?
[06:43] <smaggard> wow
[06:43] <smaggard> thats like what 4 years old?
[06:43] <makuseru> with my mighty 64mb of video ram
[06:43] <makuseru> 1999-2000
[06:43] <smaggard> whoah
[06:43] <smaggard> daaang
[06:43] <smaggard> lol
[06:43] <makuseru> better than an intel 845G
[06:43] <draik> makuseru: I have 256MB of video ram
[06:44] <draik> makuseru: 4 GB of RAM
[06:44] <crimsun> draik: change the amarok engine settings and the arts settings.
[06:44] <smaggard> i have 256 total, but 128 is sideport and the ati drivers in linux dont work with it
[06:44] <draik> and I still want more
[06:44] <draik> crimsun: How?
[06:44] <smaggard> they used to.. but ati broke the driver, is gay, and wont fix it
[06:45] <dawn> ati sux
[06:45] <makuseru> it does
[06:45] <makuseru> i want nvidia
[06:45] <smaggard> agreed
[06:45] <dawn> i had a ATI card on 3 pc's
[06:45] <makuseru> but my comp is low on my "to buy" list
[06:45] <draik> I have the nVidia 5700LS... It's ok
[06:45] <dawn> and every one had driver issues that would bSOD
[06:45] <dawn> LAME
[06:45] <draik> Anyone here know how to change the amarok engine settings and the arts settings?
[06:46] <dawn> BSOD over JAVA
[06:46] <smaggard> too bad amd and ati are teaming up
[06:46] <makuseru> its in amaroks settings
[06:46] <smaggard> i wold rather see amd nvidia
[06:46] <Jucato> draik: Amark -> Settings -> COnfigure Amarok -> Engine
[06:46] <Jucato> Amarok*
[06:46] <makuseru> amd nvidia in compaq lappys
[06:46] <dawn> I have a dell dimension C521 w/ nvidia and AMD CPU
[06:46] <dawn> :)
[06:46] <smaggard> no i mean the merge
[06:46] <dawn> oh
[06:46] <smaggard> like between companies
[06:46] <makuseru> im glad dell will ship comps without an os now
[06:47] <dawn> i am going to rip the ATI card out of my machine at home
[06:47] <smaggard> yeah
[06:47] <draik> Jucato: All I have is xine
[06:47] <draik> no arts
[06:47] <dawn> replace with a 8500 something
[06:47] <Eruantalon> !samba
[06:47] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:47] <Jucato> draik: arts is not a multimedia engine
[06:47] <dawn> !koomba
[06:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about koomba - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:47] <draik> what is arts?
[06:47] <dawn> !komba
[06:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about komba - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:47] <dawn> whats the other program?
[06:47] <Jucato> draik: it's a sound server. you don't use arts for amarok
[06:47] <draik> !koopa
[06:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about koopa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:47] <Jucato> !botabuse
[06:47] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[06:47] <dawn> KDE Samba browser
[06:47] <draik> Jucato: LOL, sorry
[06:47] <makuseru> !botsnack
[06:47] <ubotu> Yum!
[06:47] <dawn> komba2
[06:47] <dawn> !komba2
[06:48] <ubotu> komba2: KDE Samba browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.73.beta-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 173 kB, installed size 748 kB
[06:48] <ForgeAus> I'd need at least 2 cards to get the functionality of my ATI video card
[06:48] <smaggard> !karamba
[06:48] <ubotu> superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org
[06:48] <dawn> karamba is nice
[06:48] <smaggard> oops
[06:48] <smaggard> lol
[06:48] <dawn> kinda like google widgets
[06:48] <dawn> liquid weather
[06:48] <smaggard> komba made me think about karamba
[06:48] <draik> Jucato: So what engine do I need?
[06:48] <Jucato> draik: KDE only uses aRts for system sound notifications
[06:48] <Eruantalon> How do i share directories with samba between to kubuntu boxes? No matter what i do i can't seem to be allowed to log in...?
[06:48] <Jucato> draik: and currently, Amarok only uses Xine or can't use GStreamer
[06:49] <cpk1> Eruantalon: did you add a user for samba?
[06:49] <draik> ok
[06:49] <smaggard> its easier to log into a linux box with user and pass than it is to setup windows to allow a linux box to log into it
[06:49] <draik> So then what do I need to do?
[06:49] <Jucato> draik: to do what?
[06:49] <Eruantalon> i add'ed every user i can think of to samba
[06:49] <draik> Jucato: to play audio in firefox
[06:49] <draik> draik: change the amarok engine settings and the arts settings
[06:49] <draik> Jucato: ^^
[06:49] <Jucato> draik: hm.. mozilla-mplayer ?
[06:50] <dawn> I still find it hard to believe that I have played HL and HL2 via wine tonight
[06:50] <smaggard> thats what i use
[06:50] <dawn> worked 95%
[06:50] <Jucato> or one of the other mozilla plugins like vlc
[06:50] <cpk1> Eruantalon: you did sudo smbpasswd -L -a user and sudo smbpasswd -L -e thesameuser
[06:51] <dawn> nuked... reminds me of Port 139
[06:51] <dawn> :P
[06:51] <smaggard> lol
[06:51] <Nuked> dawn: ?
[06:51] <Eruantalon> cpk1: Two things. Firstly i did not do that. I did via the kcontrol program. Secondly it seems to work now. I disabled encrypted passwords that did the trick.
[06:51] <draik> mozilla-mplayer and vlc are installed
[06:51] <dawn> i remember nukin ppl in games
[06:51] <dawn> :P
[06:51] <dawn> <---evil
[06:51] <smaggard> remove vlc
[06:51] <Eruantalon> But that is not i workable solution....
[06:51] <smaggard> then mplayer will work
[06:52] <draik> I'm installing kaffeine-mozilla right now
[06:52] <dawn> kaffeine plays .wmv great
[06:52] <smaggard> so does mplayer
[06:52] <smaggard> :D
[06:52] <Jucato> xine can only play those media with the proper codecs
[06:52] <cpk1> Could use some help with simple iptables thing, trying to have my laptop access the internet through my desktop but iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE did not seem to do it and I have made sure /etc/network/options says ip_forward=yes any suggestions?
[06:52] <Eruantalon> How do I make kubuntu understand to use encrypted passwords with samba?
[06:52] <Jucato> (kaffeine and amarok uses xine so...)
[06:53] <Jucato> kaffeine can use mplayer too, though
[06:53] <draik> YES!!!!!!!!!!
[06:53] <Jucato> !caps
[06:53] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[06:53] <Jucato> :P
[06:53] <draik> Thank you smaggard
[06:53] <mortici> stupid windows and its stupid file shareing that doesn't work properly
[06:53] <draik> I'm so happy
[06:53] <smaggard> np
[06:54] <draik> Now... on to my next issue
[06:54] <smaggard> i just dropped and did 10 pushup
[06:54] <smaggard> for no apparent reason
[06:54] <draik> I have the screensaver KCommeten (sp?)
[06:54] <draik> How do I setup OpenGL?
[06:54] <makuseru> open gl is in your graphics drivers
[06:54] <smaggard> xorg.conf
[06:54] <Jucato> draik: it's all in the drivers
[06:55] <dawn> UBOTU
[06:55] <dawn> !ubotu
[06:56] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:56] <smaggard> brb i need some food or something.
[06:56] <dawn> 10 p/u thats all?
[06:56] <Eruantalon> How do I make kubuntu understand to use encrypted passwords with samba?
[06:57] <smaggard> hey guys im having this problem with encrypted passwords and samba.. any help?
[06:57] <draik> Jucato: How do I know if I have the correct driver?
[06:57] <draik> I have "nv" because "nvidia" is REALLY sluggish
[06:57] <smaggard> ok now im really checkin for food brb
[06:58] <Jucato> um.. nvidia is sluggish? did you install the nvidia-glx driver?
[06:58] <draik> Jucato: Yes
[06:58] <draik> smaggard: SAMMICH!
[06:58] <Eruantalon> smaggard: Me to
[06:59] <mortici> omg
[06:59] <mortici> its impossible to access files that are shared on vista through linux via samba
[06:59] <mortici> wtf
[06:59] <cpk1> Eruantalon: try add users like i suggested? (just guessing though)
[07:00] <moparisthebest> give it to me straight, what are the chances of getting my onboard 7.1 channel surround sound working on my 64 bit kubuntu install?
[07:00] <Eruantalon> cpk1: It is working now, as i said. But it took disabling encryption on the passwords. I am not happy with that
[07:00] <smaggard> i found nuts!!
[07:00] <cpk1> Eruantalon: yeah, so turn on encryption and add the samba user the other way (just guessing though)
[07:00] <makuseru> mortici: ya, thats one of the problems
[07:01] <smaggard> Planters dry roasted lightly salted mmmm :D
[07:01] <cpk1> moparisthebest: are you outputting the signal to a reciever?
[07:01] <makuseru> like Linus says, a computer is like an air conditioner, its useless when you open windows
[07:01] <moparisthebest> yes cpk1
[07:01] <smaggard> lol
[07:01] <mortici> makuseru: sooooo sooooo true
[07:01] <smaggard> linus said that?
[07:01] <makuseru> yes
[07:02] <mortici> and i was just getting some faith in vista .... and now this :/
[07:02] <smaggard> wow that guy was so cool
[07:02] <cpk1> moparisthebest: I would say pretty good, I am on 32 bit but I am passing a digital signal to my reciever and it was pretty painless
[07:02] <makuseru> was?
[07:02] <makuseru> is cool
[07:02] <Minataku> Mmmm... Solaris 2.6
[07:02] <mortici> hell my freaking ipaq which has windows mobile 2003 on it wont access the share
[07:02] <smaggard> i cant believe he died that way..
[07:02] <moparisthebest> any suggestions on where to start cpk1 ?
[07:02] <Minataku> I'd prefer "A computer is like a heater, it's useless when you open windows"
[07:02] <smaggard> 7.1 should work on the 64
[07:02] <Minataku> Since it's far more accurate XD
[07:03] <smaggard> heater... air.. same difference
[07:03] <cpk1> moparisthebest: open up kmix =P
[07:03] <Eruantalon> cpk1: Do you know how i can log out of the samba server so that i can check wether it worked?
[07:03] <cpk1> Eruantalon: you could stop it
[07:03] <makuseru> smaggard: he isnt dead
[07:03] <smaggard> who?
[07:03] <makuseru> Linus
[07:03] <Eruantalon> I did that. Didn't work
[07:03] <Minataku> A computer running Windows is a computer best left turned off
[07:03] <smaggard> hes not?
[07:03] <cpk1> moparisthebest: you have a iec958 playback in there?
[07:04] <makuseru> no
[07:04] <smaggard> someone told me he was
[07:04] <makuseru> no
[07:04] <Minataku> Linus isn't dead
[07:04] <smaggard> HURRAY!!!
[07:04] <moparisthebest> yes cpk1
[07:04] <Minataku> smaggard: Been talking to Steve Ballmer?
[07:04] <mohammed> how to update openoffice to version 2.1 ?
[07:04] <makuseru> i just watched an interview with him talking about the new kernal
[07:04] <cpk1> Eruantalon: sudo /etc/init.d/samba (or smb maybe) stop
[07:04] <makuseru> Minataku: Ha!
[07:04] <Eruantalon> cpk1: didn't work
[07:04] <Minataku> smaggard: I think you mean lilo
[07:04] <Minataku> Former head of Freenode
[07:05] <draik> Jucato: any other ideas?
[07:05] <smaggard> Fox News said he died.. i knew i shouldnt have trusted them their reporting is about as accurate and me saying windows is secure.
[07:05] <Minataku> Who was also a cool guy
[07:05] <cpk1> moparisthebest: alright in output put the iec958 to the lowest volume (0 volume)
[07:05] <smaggard> Bill gates was cool!!
[07:05] <makuseru> Bill IS cool
[07:05] <moparisthebest> ok cpk1
[07:05] <makuseru> for all the money he gives
[07:05] <Minataku> Bill is nothing but marketing
[07:05] <makuseru> for charity
[07:05] <smaggard> to thoe hookers..
[07:05] <smaggard> those*
[07:05] <cpk1> moparisthebest: is best then in input do the same thing (you can leave it on record though)
[07:05] <draik> Actually, Bill Gates is a nice guy outside of work. When it's business related, he can be a real prick.
[07:05] <Minataku> He doesn't even have power in Microsoft anymore
[07:06] <makuseru> he as a person, ok as a business man no
[07:06] <cpk1> moparisthebest: ignore the is best I was thinking out loud when thinking your name
[07:06] <smaggard> yeah he is usually a prick to me but o wel
[07:06] <smaggard> i got super glue on my hands ack!
[07:06] <Minataku> Know your enemy
[07:06] <mortici> SHARE DAMN IT SHARE YOUR STUPID FILES .... stupid windows
[07:06] <moparisthebest> ok cpk1 I have that done, still no sound coming out of any speakers besides the fronts
[07:06] <draik> moparisthebest: Hey... What is that website that crashes windows computer?
[07:06] <Minataku> Bill Gates is just a marketing tool nowadays
[07:06] <cpk1> moparisthebest: then in switches change the iec958 playback source to ac link
[07:07] <Minataku> It's Steve Ballmer that's the evil
[07:07] <Minataku> In fact, I read somewhere that Bill Gates thinks DRM is completely retarded
[07:07] <Minataku> lol
[07:07] <cpk1> moparisthebest: what are you using to play the sound with?
[07:07] <moparisthebest> draik, http://www.moparisthebest.com/no.html
[07:07] <smaggard> my backgrond is a bathroom with a windows xp pro box in the toilet
[07:07] <makuseru> not only did i read that
[07:07] <makuseru> i saw the interview
[07:07] <smaggard> and on the sink is a bottle with tux on it representing soap :D
[07:07] <draik> Thank you moparisthebest, I have a few people at work that NEED that link'
[07:07] <moparisthebest> :)
[07:08] <makuseru> EMI Records no longer uses DRM
[07:08] <moparisthebest> it only works for old firefoxes and IE
 moparisthebest: then in switches change the iec958 playback source to ac link
[07:08] <moparisthebest> my only options are PCM
[07:08] <moparisthebest> analog in
[07:08] <moparisthebest> and
[07:08] <moparisthebest> IEC958 in
[07:08] <Minataku> There's another site I heard of
[07:08] <Minataku> goodbye-microsoft.com
[07:09] <cpk1> moparisthebest: hrmm ok PCM
[07:09] <makuseru> o.O Linus Torvalds wife if a 6 time karate champion
[07:09] <moparisthebest> I am using amarok right now cpk1
[07:09] <Minataku> Aaaaugh! PNG bomb!
[07:09] <Minataku> XD
[07:09] <mortici> ......
[07:09] <cpk1> moparisthebest: ok you are going to want to change the speaker setup in amarok to passthrough
[07:10] <draik> Minataku: Huh? What is a PNG bomb?
[07:10] <Minataku> draik: http://www.moparisthebest.com/no.html << The incredibly large PNG located here is a PNG bomb
[07:10] <Minataku> Note the dimensions
[07:10] <smaggard> lol
[07:10] <smaggard> will it kill linux firefox?
[07:10] <Minataku> A staggering 10M x 10M pixels
[07:10] <moparisthebest> the png isnt that large actually
[07:10] <Minataku> smaggard: No
[07:10] <makuseru> bomb? you mean Mooninite
[07:10] <moparisthebest> but the html says it is ;)
[07:10] <smaggard> windows ie/firefox?
[07:11] <moparisthebest> it killed firefox 1.0 in windows
[07:11] <moparisthebest> idk about linux
[07:11] <Minataku> It made my Firefox kinda puke
[07:11] <smaggard> well lets start the insanity
[07:11] <Minataku> It was reeeeeeealy slow after that
[07:11] <moparisthebest> yea, it lags a little sometimes
[07:11] <cpk1> konquerer didnt have a problem
[07:11] <Minataku> And this is Firefox Linux/i686 2.0.0.2
[07:11] <smaggard> mine loaded right up
[07:11] <smaggard> didnt hickup a bit
[07:11] <markc> is anyone using a bluetooth headset ?
[07:12] <cpk1> moparisthebest: still no luck?
[07:12] <smaggard> all i saw was like purple
[07:12] <moparisthebest> I cant find a 'passthrough' option in amarok cpk1
[07:12] <smaggard> amarok is like 1000x better than winamp
[07:12] <Minataku> Oh, dear... now that's something
[07:12] <moparisthebest> I changed it to 7.1 surround sound, but nothing happened
[07:12] <draik> markc: Phone or desktop?
[07:12] <Minataku> My SPARCstation 10 has gone apecrap
[07:12] <cpk1> moparisthebest: configure amarok, go to the engines tab then in speaker arrangement
[07:12] <cpk1> moparisthebest: its not there?
[07:12] <Minataku> Not even L1-A can stop the insanity
[07:12] <markc> draik, desktop, for skye mainly
[07:13] <markc> skype
[07:13] <Minataku> Or Stop-A rather, as it is on a Type 5
[07:13] <Minataku> :3
[07:13] <moparisthebest> ah ok cpk1 I found passthrough, still no sound though
[07:13] <draik> Not here on my computer, but I did at my friend's computer
[07:13] <markc> draik, do you remember what packages you needed ?
[07:13] <Nuked> us deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest edgy main  safe?
[07:13] <Nuked> *is
[07:13] <draik> markc: No, sorry
[07:14] <markc> draik, k, np
[07:14] <cpk1> blah i will have to dreg up some aplay commands moparisthebest also check alsamixer turn your pcm up and make sure iec958 is unmuted
[07:14] <cpk1> but at 0 volume
[07:14] <Minataku> It stopped! Yay!
[07:14] <Minataku> lol
[07:15] <Minataku> "SCSI bus MESSAGE OUT phase parity error"
[07:15] <stdin> Nuked: depends what you mean by safe
[07:15] <mohammed> hey guys, how to update openoffice to version 2.1 ?
[07:15] <Minataku> "Target 1 didn't disconnect after sending DISCONNECT"
[07:15] <Minataku> Now that's a show
[07:15] <Minataku> XD
[07:15] <Nuked> stdin: is it stable
[07:15] <stdin> mohammed: wait a few months and install feisty
[07:16] <cpk1> moparisthebest: alright pastebin aplay -l
[07:16] <mohammed> lol! isn't there a proper methode to do so before feisty ?
[07:17] <moparisthebest> cpk1, http://rafb.net/p/8KqtVG10.html
[07:17] <stdin> Nuked: the latest kde is 3.5.6, which is quite stable, but it's still being tested on edgy/feisty. but it's not particularly unstable so it's quite safe
[07:18] <cpk1> moparisthebest: how about aplay -L?
[07:18] <Contril> What the Hell.  :S
[07:18] <stdin> mohammed: not unless it's in -backports
[07:18] <sinthetek> any idea why a wireless usb adapter would work from livecd but not from the system itself?
[07:18] <draik> !source
[07:18] <ubotu> You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[07:18] <sinthetek> once installed*
[07:19] <draik> !source-o-matic
[07:19] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:19] <moparisthebest> cpk1, http://rafb.net/p/rGB38w88.html
[07:19] <cpk1> moparisthebest: you have a wav file you can use?
[07:19] <smaggard> crap
[07:20] <moparisthebest> yep, let me find it
[07:20] <smaggard> in amarok i add media from a network share, click play and it dies
[07:22] <cpk1> moparisthebest: try aplay -D hw:0,4 -c 7 song.wav
[07:22] <moparisthebest> ok
[07:22] <smaggard> no fair
[07:22] <cpk1> moparisthebest: anything?
[07:23] <moparisthebest> oh, nvm
[07:23] <moparisthebest> I have midi files
[07:23] <moparisthebest> but no wav files
[07:23] <Nuked> I shall return
[07:24] <poningru_intoxic> noooooooooooooooooooo
[07:24] <smaggard> how come only root can mount
[07:25] <smaggard> i wanna mount a network folder of music to a folder in my /home
[07:25] <smaggard> and it says only root can do that
[07:25] <smaggard> and if i do it as root then im sure my user wont be able to read it and i wont be able to change that
[07:25] <cpk1> moparisthebest: ok well turn the volume down and do it on any old file and see if you hear a terrible noise =P (or find a wav that is lurking somewhere)
[07:25] <stdin> smaggard: because only root can, use use sudo and add "-o uid=UserName" to the end of the command
[07:26] <smaggard> mmk
[07:26] <stdin> smaggard: (where UserName is your username :P )
[07:26] <cpk1> moparisthebest: try /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav
[07:26] <smaggard> haha thx
[07:27] <moparisthebest> cpk1,
[07:27] <moparisthebest> mopar@killer-linux:~$ aplay -D hw:0,4 -c 7 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav
[07:27] <moparisthebest> Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 48000 Hz, Mono
[07:27] <moparisthebest> aplay: set_params:906: Channels count non available
[07:27] <stdin> smaggard: no problem :-)
[07:28] <cpk1> moparisthebest: ok well you getting sound from that?
[07:28] <moparisthebest> no sound at all cpk1
[07:29] <the_hammer> hi all someone gave me a few keys for getting the kde 3.5.6 and since then ive gotten need public key errors 6 to be exact
[07:29] <mike_> im trying to install easyubuntu is there a packagelist for fiesty?
[07:29] <the_hammer> wondering if i can get the keys somehow
[07:30] <the_hammer> i tried the source o matic and i was in worse shape then what istared with
[07:31] <stdin> the_hammer: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php <- read this
[07:32] <cpk1> moparisthebest: odd aplay isnt doing it for me either, and the sound is because its not playing =P
[07:32] <moparisthebest> wierd
[07:35] <|Daisuke_Ido|> why do people insist on things like easyubuntu and automatix?
[07:36] <sinthetek> if all of the drivers are loaded properly on livecd, shouldn't they also be on the system after install?
[07:36] <|Daisuke_Ido|> they make things worse more often than they make things better.
[07:36] <verzonnen> |Daisuke_Ido|: surely you know the answers
[07:36] <the_hammer> i saved a file from there what do i do with it?
[07:36] <the_hammer> kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[07:36] <|Daisuke_Ido|> verzonnen: they want ease of use, i suppose.
[07:37] <mortici> i don't understand this, xp file sharing works like a charm i can access it no problem, vista same settings, and it INSISTS on asking for a username/password ...... gah
[07:37] <stdin> the_hammer: like the page says "sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[07:37] <verzonnen> anyway it's sleep time
[07:38] <cpk1> moparisthebest: alright lets try mpg123-alsa (you might need to install it)
[07:39] <theshadow> would anyone know why the ati driver doesn't let me set the resolution above 1024x768?
[07:39] <metres> Hi all do anyone know how to stop kbluetooth starting on startup ?
[07:39] <moparisthebest> I cant find it on apt-get cpk1 , google it?
[07:49] <cpk1> !mpg123-alsa
[07:49] <ubotu> mpg123-alsa: MPEG layer 1/2/3 audio player with ALSA support. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.60-3 (edgy), package size 130 kB, installed size 328 kB (Only available for i386 alpha powerpc m68k arm sparc hppa)
[07:49] <cpk1> !mpg123
[07:49] <ubotu> mpg123: MPEG layer 1/2/3 audio player. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.60-3 (edgy), package size 129 kB, installed size 324 kB (Only available for i386 alpha powerpc m68k arm sparc hppa)
[07:49] <cpk1> moparisthebest: sorry for long response, its there in multiverse =)
[07:50] <moparisthebest> I have multiverse enabled, but I have found that alot of programs that are there in 32 bit kubuntu, arent there in 64 bit kubuntu :/
[07:51] <moparisthebest> i do have mpg123
[07:51] <moparisthebest> but not -alsa
[07:52] <moparisthebest> mpg321 I mean
[07:53] <cpk1> alright try with mpg123 and see if you get sound
[07:53] <cpk1> just mpg123 song.mp3
[07:55] <moparisthebest> I have sound, but just from the front speakers cpk1
[07:56] <cpk1> moparisthebest: hrmm and you checked your alsamixer levels?
[07:57] <moparisthebest> PCM is supposed to be all the way up?
[07:57] <cpk1> is amarok in the 64bit env or 32bit env?
[07:57] <cpk1> yes
[07:57] <moparisthebest> what are the other levels supposed to be?
[07:57] <moparisthebest> amarok is 64 bit
[07:58] <cpk1> moparisthebest: how many iec958 devices do you have in alsamixer?
[07:58] <moparisthebest> 2
[07:58] <moparisthebest> actually 3 cpk1
[07:58] <cpk1> iec958 and iec958 p?
[07:59] <moparisthebest> 2 iec958 p's
[07:59] <cpk1> iec958 and 2 iec958 p's?
[07:59] <moparisthebest> one just says PCM above it
[07:59] <moparisthebest> yep
[07:59] <moparisthebest> what levels are those supposed to be at?
[08:00] <cpk1> ok moparisthebestok so the plain iec958 shouldnt have a volume bar right? make sure that one is unmuted (mm means muted) pressing m mutes/unmutes
[08:00] <cpk1> and do both the iec958 p's have volume bars?
[08:01] <moparisthebest> it was muted, I unmuted it, still no sound
[08:02] <moparisthebest> one of the p's just says PCM above it
[08:02] <moparisthebest> where is the other one's bar supposed to be?
[08:02] <cpk1> see if you can change the one that says pcm to something else
[08:03] <dewitts> how do i log in as sudo
[08:03] <dewitts> i mean perm
[08:03] <dewitts> so i don't have to type it in every time?
[08:03] <moparisthebest> I can change it to analog in or ie958 in cpk1
[08:03] <moparisthebest> dewitts,
[08:03] <moparisthebest> sudo -i
[08:03] <cpk1> moparisthebest: hrmm ok i guess keep it as pcm
[08:04] <dewitts> i got to get a book on this stuff, or study the commands i get tired of coming here all the time, and asking questions
[08:04] <moparisthebest> is any of the other things supposed to be muted cpk1 ?
[08:04] <cpk1> moparisthebest: the other iec958 p should be set to 0 volume but unmuted
[08:04] <cpk1> moparisthebest: you can try changing the pcm to iec958 in too just to see if it does anything
[08:05] <moparisthebest> already tried it, no effect
[08:05] <moparisthebest> is surround supposed to be muted?
[08:05] <cpk1> mines unmuted
[08:06] <cpk1> when i was reading up on mine I noticed alot of people seemed to have really picky systems setting wise for some reason
[08:07] <moparisthebest> cpk1, what is the surround mode? shared or independant?
[08:07] <cpk1> moparisthebest: shared, but if you are using digital coaxial i dont think that should matter
[08:07] <moparisthebest> ah ok
[08:07] <[abhishek] > m
[08:14] <cpk1> moparisthebest: lets make a wav of one of your mp3s use mpg123, the command i think will be mpg123 song.mpg -w newsong.wav
[08:15] <cpk1> song.mp3*
[08:16] <moparisthebest> ok done
[08:17] <cpk1> moparisthebest: ok now try aplay -D hw:0,4 mywav.wav
[08:18] <moparisthebest> mopar@killer-linux:~/ext3store$ aplay -D hw:0,4 1949.wav
[08:18] <moparisthebest> Playing WAVE '1949.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo
[08:18] <moparisthebest> Warning: rate is not accurate (requested = 44100Hz, got = 48000Hz)
[08:18] <moparisthebest>          please, try the plug plugin
[08:18] <moparisthebest> no sound though cpk1
[08:19] <cpk1> no sound at all?
[08:19] <moparisthebest> no sound at all
[08:19] <cpk1> are you sure it is actually outputting after that error?
[08:19] <moparisthebest> I have to end it manually, but Im not sure what it is trying to do
[08:20] <cpk1> then it probably is trying to play it
[08:20] <cpk1> hrmm
[08:20] <jackson> can anyone advise how i can terminate a program because it's not responding from right clicking  on menu..thx
[08:21] <cpk1> jackson: open a konsole then do "ps aux" look for the name of the program and its numbers on the far left, then do kill thosenumbers
[08:22] <cpk1> moparisthebest: how many digital playbacks does cat /proc/asound/devices give you?
[08:23] <theshadow> would anyone know when I run aticonfig --resolution=1280x1024 i get Error: Section # expected.
[08:23] <moparisthebest> cpk1, 2-9
[08:23] <jackson> cpk1: i am trying to close xmms n xmmplayer but cant see that from the list?
[08:24] <cpk1> jackson: every running process will show up in "ps aux"
[08:25] <cpk1> moparisthebest: 4: [ 0- 0] : digital audio playback that is the line with my digital out the 0- 0 is the x y for hw: test every one that says it is digital audio playback for me it would be aplay -D hw:0,0
[08:25] <jackson> ok found it...thank you cpk1
[08:25] <Balsamic_Chicken> !pastebin
[08:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:26] <cpk1> jackson: so kill thenumberonfarleft (the number right to the right of your user name) should close it
[08:31] <moparisthebest> cpk1, aplay -D hw:0,0 1949.wav gives me sound, but only out of the front 2
[08:32] <cpk1> moparisthebest: none of the others do?
[08:32] <cpk1> moparisthebest: ok now try aplay -D hw:0,0 -c 7 1949.wav
[08:33] <kyle_> Peoples!
[08:33] <kyle_> What's goin' on?
[08:33] <moparisthebest> same 2 speakers cpk1
[08:34] <kyle_> Yeah, so...anyway.
[08:34] <kyle_> Like I was saying...
[08:34] <kyle_> All hail the great..
[08:34] <kyle_> Not me...
[08:34] <kyle_> Pointy?
[08:34] <kyle_> Nighty night! ;)\
[08:35] <pointy> ?
[08:35] <kyle_> What?
[08:35] <pointy> what what?
[08:35] <kyle_> Can you help me with something?
[08:35] <kyle_> Avid Ubuntu user?
[08:35] <pointy> maybe
[08:35] <cpk1> moparisthebest: does the reciever say its recieving a dts signal?
[08:35] <kyle_> Well...
[08:35] <pointy> I am a mere user too
[08:35] <kyle_> Dam
[08:35] <cpk1> when you play the wav
[08:35] <kyle_> I need to install Beryl, and have it work.
[08:35] <moparisthebest> there are no lights or anything cpk1
[08:35] <kyle_> I don't know how!
[08:36] <pointy> ahh...
[08:36] <pointy> I haven't tried beryl
[08:36] <kyle_> It's supposed to be cool.
[08:36] <pointy> does it work with kde yet?
[08:36] <pointy> yeah, supercool
[08:36] <kyle_> Beats me.
[08:36] <kyle_> Well, I can't get it to work at all.
[08:36] <pointy> :(
[08:36] <kyle_> Gnome, Kde, Xfce..
[08:36] <kyle_> You name it.
[08:36] <kyle_> It doesn't work.
[08:36] <pointy> strange
[08:36] <kyle_> Uber
[08:36] <pointy> what videocard?
[08:37] <kyle_> On my laptop...
[08:37] <cpk1> moparisthebest: =( I am running low on thoughts, try setting xine to use passthrough as well
[08:37] <kyle_> Intel 915/GML
[08:37] <pointy> that might be the issue
[08:37] <kyle_> I hope it is not.
[08:37] <Ace2016> kyle_: Look here: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu
[08:37] <kyle_> I need to spice up my desktop.
[08:37] <kyle_> But it no worky.
[08:37] <pointy> not sure whether your card is fast enough for beryl
[08:37] <kyle_> Thanks, Ace.
[08:38] <kyle_> I need something "shiny" on my desktop to pwn all them windows users.
[08:38] <moparisthebest> ok cpk1 thanks for all the help, I have to get some sleep though :)
[08:38] <moparisthebest> Ill google around tommorow and see what I can come up with :P
[08:39] <Ace2016> i like the preview minimised windows in beryl, its live vista
[08:39] <cpk1> moparisthebest: well theoritically as soon as you find the digital out device it should be as easy as telling your media players to use that device
[08:39] <dewitts> hey is there any one in here thats relaly good with openoffice?
[08:39] <kyle_> Yeah, but Beryl won't work in the first place.
[08:40] <kyle_> I am pretty good...
[08:40] <kyle_> What do ya need?
[08:40] <dewitts> I have like 900 rows, that contain links in them, but I want to make them all clickable really quick, instead of doing down through every single one, and manuall doing it? Cuase I'm saving this to a .html file.
[08:40] <pointy> kyle_: have you tried following that guide - seems pretty straight forward
[08:41] <kyle_> Try a CTRL+A and right click. I think there was a "Format as link" option. Or click the formatting bar, and link.
[08:41] <kyle_> Something like that.
[08:41] <kyle_> I am working on it. Pointy.
[08:41] <dewitts> kyle_: u talking to me?
[08:42] <kyle_> Yes. I was.
[08:42] <dewitts> I don't see format as link option
[08:42] <dewitts> i do have that on the bar though hold on
[08:43] <dewitts> hmm
[08:43] <dewitts> lol don't have that either
[08:45] <sparr> how can i run different java apps with different JVMs?
[08:45] <pointy> kyle_: from what I've googled around, it should work with your vid card
[08:45] <kyle_> :D
[08:45] <kyle_> That's awesome.
[08:46] <kyle_> Kinda.
[08:46] <kyle_> Well, if it worked it would be.
[08:46] <kyle_> Still workin on installin it.
[08:46] <kyle_> Sorry Dewitts.
[08:46] <kyle_> I don't know what to say.
[08:46] <Ace2016> dewitts: do the links all point to the same place? if so i have an idea
[08:47] <dewitts> yes
[08:47] <dewitts> ace2016
[08:47] <dewitts> I can send you the file, and show itt o you relaly quick
[08:48] <dewitts> its just important i get this done
[08:48] <dewitts> really important
[08:48] <dewitts> I know there has to be some way of doing it though
[08:48] <dewitts> instead of going through there, and clicking on each one manuall, I mean the links are already there
[08:49] <Ace2016> dewitts: edit one of the links to be what you want it to be, then leave the rest the same, save it as an html file, then open it in something like kwrite or kate and to edit > replace and then replace an already exsisting part with the part being replaced and the new bit, so replace <bla> with <bla><html for a the link> so that it looks like the one you changed
[08:49] <morphius_> in iptables: is it possible to forward a port to all addresses on a subnet (rather than select an ip address at random as is done with the -to-destination start-range end-range switch)?
[08:51] <dewitts> k
[08:52] <dewitts> ace2016: what was you saying, I would still have to manually do all that?
[08:52] <dewitts> ain't there a way to just have them all as hyperlinks?
[08:52] <pointy> do the feisty desktop iso cd's (the milestone cd's) work as liveCD's too?
[08:54] <francis_> bonjour a tous
[08:54] <Ace2016> find and replace and then replace all, that'd do it
[08:55] <Ace2016> can i see the file? could you upload it to somewhere?
[08:58] <dewitts> yea hold on
[08:58] <dewitts> uploading it now
[08:58] <dewitts> apperciate you helping
[08:58] <dewitts> cuase i can't figure this out and its important i get it done
[09:02] <dewitts> Ace2016: you there
[09:02] <dewitts> Ace2016: http://www.indianawebsitedesign.net/text.csv
[09:02] <Ace2016> yup
[09:02] <dewitts> i just uplaoded it to my server
[09:03] <Ace2016> So what are you trying to do with all the links?
[09:04] <dewitts> make them clickable
[09:04] <dewitts> i need to save it to a .html file
[09:04] <mortici> can i add a fiesty version of a repo so i can get the latest samba?
[09:04] <dewitts> hyperlinks
[09:04] <dewitts> but as of right now
[09:05] <dewitts> there not, there just text, but I'm trying to make all them hyperlinks, so I can open them up in firefox, or there clickable in firefox anyways, I have 1000's of them
[09:06] <dewitts> any idea?
[09:06] <stdin> mortici: that is not reccommended and could make your system unusable
[09:06] <Ace2016> not really, but i'll give it a go
[09:07] <mortici> stdin
[09:07] <mortici> i just need the latest samba, thats all
[09:08] <mortici> after that id get rid of the repo
[09:09] <dewitts> ace2016: i know theres got to be a way to do it lol
[09:09] <stdin> mortici: the latest samba depends on things that aren't in edgy, so they will be installed, and there is a change in the default python version, so that will have to install python and all those dependencies. It really could mess your system up. But if you want to take the risk you can do it
[09:10] <mortici> damn it
[09:10] <mortici> nvm
[09:10] <mortici> i just read an article
[09:11] <mortici> that basically says that you cant access vista shares from linux, not untill the samba devs re work the code :/ sad part is OSX and other versions of windows work just fine :/
[09:17] <mike__> how do i mount ntfs with read/write enabled?
[09:17] <stdin> !ntfs-3g | mike__
[09:17] <ubotu> mike__: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[09:18] <mike__> stdin: still in beta?
[09:18] <stdin> yeah, but it's that or read-only
[09:19] <mike__> stdin: ok thanx
[09:19] <stdin> np
[09:23] <Ace2016> dewitts: I did it
[09:24] <Ace2016> dewitts: u there?
[09:24] <Ace2016> well here is how i did it
[09:24] <Ace2016> i saved a backup of the file
[09:24] <Ace2016> opened it up in kwrite
[09:25] <Ace2016> press Ctrl + R
[09:25] <dbglt> hi everyone... I have a line in my /etc/fstab for a drive I would like mounted on startup... but it doesn't mount it, I have to manually type mount
[09:25] <dbglt> is there anything else I need to do to have it mount at boot time?
[09:26] <Ace2016> Text to find: "^..,"    (without the "") and tick regular expression and in the replacement text box just put a single space
[09:26] <bls> bonjour
[09:26] <bls> ca va bien  ?
[09:27] <Ace2016> dewitts: then in the options remove from cursor and prompt on replace
[09:27] <kyle_> Blarg
[09:27] <caris_mere> I am trying to backup my home folder, but keep always gives me an error
[09:27] <Ace2016> dewitts: Then press replace
[09:27] <tanlaan> anyone know of an editor for the KDE GUI?
[09:27] <Ace2016> dewitts: It'll replace all the random numbers
[09:28] <Ace2016> dewitts: the random numbers at the start,
[09:28] <tanlaan> Like how they have editors for the windows GUI so you can COMPLETLY change how it looks, making it even as simple as a blue background with a labeled internet shortcut/button
[09:30] <Ace2016> dewitts: now press ctrl+r again, find text: ("free",")   everything in the brackets including the "" and replacement text should be: (<a href=")
[09:30] <Ace2016> dewitts: then press replace
[09:31] <Ace2016> dewitts: now press Ctrl+r and put for the find text: (",4) then as the replacement text: (">Free</a>)  Then press replace
[09:31] <Ace2016> dewitts: then stick in all the normal html stuff and your done
[09:31] <caris_mere> anybody using a backup program? I need some help
[09:34] <Ace2016> dewitts: here is the finished file: http://www.speedyshare.com/931850394.html
[09:46] <surgy> yuriy: are you around?
[09:47] <nodesert> is there anyone who knows how to open a shell with eclipse
[09:53] <boss_78> Hello
[09:53] <boss_78> I have a question about Feisty Faw
[09:53] <surgy> hi
[09:53] <Ace2016> hi
[09:53] <surgy> !ask
[09:53] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:55] <boss_78> Will the acceleration 3D of my driver s3 Savage4 be supported?
[09:56] <boss_78> ?
[09:57] <stdin> boss_78: for questions about Feisty, you should go to #ubuntu+1
[09:57] <mohammed> can i use kopete to access @live accounts ?
[09:57] <boss_78> Ok thank you
[10:03] <blue|palm> What can i do if knetworkmanager does not find any wireless networks, but wireless lan assitant does?
[10:13] <blue|palm> What can i do if knetworkmanager does not find any wireless networks, but wireless lan assitant does?
[10:14] <seven11> how can i boot kubuntu in verbosse mode
[10:16] <seven11> how can i disable the boot splash
[10:17] <abattoir> seven11: remove 'quiet' from the 'kernel' option in the appropriate entry of your menu.lst file
[10:17] <abattoir> seven11: 'splash' too, if you don't want the boot splash
[10:17] <seven11> menu.lst where
[10:18] <abattoir> seven11: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:18] <seven11> thanks
[10:19] <renato> Hi all, do yo know is there is a 32 bit odbc package for ubuntu amd64?
[10:19] <cpk1> how would I set it up so my iptables rules get remembered? /sbin/iptables-restore /etc/network/iptables.rules in /etc/rc.local doesnt seem to be doing it
[10:21] <Linux_Galore> one question, is there a seperate repo for perl packages, I seem to be missing allot of modules
[10:22] <shad-99> Hi all, Could some one teach me how to install vlc to my kubuntu? i am a newbie on this linux
[10:22] <Linux_Galore> DateTime/Format/DateManip.pm  cant be found,hmm
[10:22] <Linux_Galore> shad-99: lots of luck wioth that question i had to do a 2 hour class for that one
[10:23] <shad-99> hahah ok thanks
[10:23] <nodesert> shad-99 did you try "sudo aptitude install vlc"
[10:23] <shad-99> i thought this linux was a piece of cake to install stuffs like windows.. but it sucks when it comes to that?
[10:24] <Linux_Galore> shad-99: no very easy to install, just fiddly to setup
[10:24] <Linux_Galore> shad-99: just use adept
[10:24] <Linux_Galore> to install vlc
[10:25] <shad-99> yes i have tried that but i can't find vlc in ther anywhere?
[10:25] <Linux_Galore> shad-99: it means you dont have all the repo's setup
[10:25] <NightBird> is there a way to tell kubuntu to ignore certain packages for being removed?  like I use the freeglut library development stuff, but nothing else depends on it, so it always adds it to the list to be removed on auto clean..
[10:25] <Linux_Galore> shad-99: adedpt can only see whats on the package servers that you have setup
[10:27] <shad-99> no i haven't tried that sudo aptitude install vlc yet? .. don't know much about commands in linux.. im a fraid? :S
[10:27] <abattoir> !info vlc
[10:27] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB
[10:27] <abattoir> !repos > shad-99
[10:27] <shad-99> damn it's hard to learn.. lol
[10:27] <abattoir> shad-99: follow that guide
[10:27] <Linux_Galore> NightBird: aptitude hold package_name
[10:28] <abattoir> shad-99: it's just different, compared to windows, yes, there are things to learn, but it's not that hard :)
[10:28] <seven11> abattoir: worked thanks
[10:28] <abattoir> seven11: great :)
[10:29] <harmental> hey guys....how can i associate tex file to kile?
[10:29] <abattoir> shad-99: after you're done enabling the universe/multiverse repos(after reading that guide), you'll have most software you need installable from one place, Adept
[10:29] <abattoir> including vlc
[10:29] <Linux_Galore> NightBird: or if you use apt       echo pkgname hold | dpkg --set-selections
[10:30] <ydb> bonjour
[10:31] <Linux_Galore> harmental: open konqueror   Settings -> Configure Konqueror , then  look for file associations, then enter tex  in the search box top right
[10:31] <harmental> Linux_Galore: thx!
[10:31] <Linux_Galore> harmental: have to set kile as the default app for that file type
[10:32] <jackson> would this line only suit gnome?...sudo cp /etc/gtk/gtkrc.zh_TW /etc/gtk/gtkrc.zh_TW.utf-8? thanx
[10:32] <DarkWizdom> hi guys! can anyone tell me how do I add a cd rom to sources.list?
[10:34] <premier_> hey, k3b wont work for me unless I sudo it.  Is that normal and can I fix that?
[10:34] <Linux_Galore> DarkWizdom: sudo apt-cdrom add
[10:34] <Linux_Galore> premier_: run   sudo k3b-setup   and add you default user to the user list
[10:35] <Linux_Galore> your*
[10:35] <laosboyme> ss
[10:35] <DarkWizdom> thanks! :)
[10:37] <Linux_Galore> premier_: basically you havent given a set user permission to use k3b
[10:37] <laosboyme> How to intsall amsn CVS subversion?
[10:37] <laosboyme> somebody?
[10:38] <blue|palm> What can i do if knetworkmanager does not find any wireless networks, but wireless lan assitant does?
[10:38] <Linux_Galore> laosboyme: cvs variants are usually buggy and if you asking that question you shouldnt be trying to install it
[10:40] <renato> Hi all, do yo know is there is a 32 bit odbc package for ubuntu amd64?
[10:41] <jackson> anyone here know about making chinese readable on multimedia player? a long shot i know but thanx
[10:44] <abattoir> jackson: which multimedia player?
[10:46] <jackson> xmms / amarok / juk ..just one of them can read chinese on its playlist would be very helpful...i tried xmms n it would show for only 1sec then back to unreadable symbols?...thanx abottoir
[10:47] <abattoir> jackson: i think it depends on the encoding that you are using...
[10:47] <jackson> abottoir: i did this line in console..sudo cp /etc/gtk/gtkrc.zh_TW /etc/gtk/gtkrc.zh_TW.utf-8
[10:48] <jackson> or is that not applicable in kubuntu as it was a ubuntu forum i copied?
[10:48] <abattoir> jackson: it should work w/ gtk applications(xmms etc.), not qt applications like amarok/juk
[10:49] <jackson> encoding i m using...? can u explain further?
[10:50] <fdoving> Jucato: hi, i'm around now. you called my name?
[10:50] <dettoaltrimenti_> if I want every file of a certain type to open VLC media player, but I want it to open in the terminal with the arguements '-I skins2' how do I do that?
[10:51] <jackson> abattoir: would it help if i changed the system lang. to chinese?
[10:52] <abattoir> jackson: run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales'
[10:53] <abattoir> jackson: and select the UTF version of your current local
[10:53] <abattoir> en_US.UTF-8 for example
[10:56] <bls> bonjour y a des francais ici ?
[10:56] <premier_> I have k3b installed but "sudo k3b-setup" returns a command not found error
[10:56] <premier_> !fr > bls
[10:57] <premier_> that doesnt work anymore?
[10:57] <premier_> !fr
[10:57] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:57] <premier_> there we go!
[10:57] <jackson>  what command should i select the UTF version of my current local once i typed "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales"
[11:10] <fede> Hello.
[11:11] <fede> Got a problem with Synaptic and Sun Java 5
[11:11] <fede> At 5% a GUI interface oepens and cannot click
[11:11] <fede> on the "acept"
[11:11] <fede> so the installation does not preceed
[11:11] <fede> and it locks everything
[11:12] <fede> Any ideas?
[11:12] <fede> They would be appreciated.
[11:16] <jordo23> !version
[11:16] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[11:18] <jibowen> hello who can help me about upnp
[11:19] <jibowen> hello who can help me about upnp
[11:19] <moshea> hi all .... what's a good vnc server to use under KDE ?
[11:20] <moshea> krfb/kdrc are non-starters for me .... too slow over the inernet
[11:20] <NightBird> ok, I'm trying to compile a program that includes from a file "GL/glxtokens.h"... what package do I need to install for me to be able to compile it?
[11:21] <NightBird> sadly enough, it didn't detect it as an unmet dependency, so I don't know waht to do...
[11:24] <moshea> what's a good vnc server to use under KDE ?
[11:26] <baro> hallo
[11:27] <crazy_bus> I wan't the view the video here http://www.celtx.com/walkthru/feature_over.html .  But it won't play without the recent flash version.  Is the only way to view it to install propietry software?  Or is there someway to download it and the convert it to ogg?
[11:28] <pi1l> hello! who can show me xorg.conf, configured for dual monitors, please?
[11:29] <shad-99> Vlc package is not in synaptic list anywhere.. How can i get the packages to install it?
[11:29] <abattoir> shad-99: you didn't listen to me, did you?
[11:30] <shad-99> i don't understand a shit about linux.. ;( i don't understand what repositories is either?... get it?
[11:30] <shad-99> it's fucking hard this ;(
[11:30] <abattoir> !repositories | shad-99
[11:30] <ubotu> shad-99: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:30] <abattoir> !language | shad-99
[11:30] <ubotu> shad-99: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:31] <shad-99> ok sorry guy's! :(
[11:31] <abattoir> shad-99: be patient and read, if you don't understand anything, ask, i'll be glad to help
[11:31] <emav> Hi there! I'm using firefox under kubuntu. I've noticed that I cannot enter special characters (e.g. polytonic Greek) in textboxes. Has anybody else had the same problem?
[11:31] <shad-99> thanks m8.. im a little bit frustrating here..  :S
[11:31] <abattoir> shad-99: it's ok, i understand :)
[11:32] <abattoir> shad-99: it's simple, read the guide, and enable the universe and multiverse repositories, once you are done, search for vlc and install... i thought you'd have finished all that by now
[11:32] <shad-99> it is to much to get into my brain.. i have been into windows enviroment for 22 years.. but this i tuff business? :S
[11:32] <abattoir> shad-99: it's just different, that's all
[11:33] <shad-99> hahaha sure is :)
[11:33] <abattoir> shad-99: just learn the basics, and you'll get along :)
[11:33] <Linux_Galore> hmm , were is the external taskbar hidden these days ?
[11:34] <Linux_Galore> its not in the applets list
[11:34] <shad-99> mmm .. don't get it.. so many directories in this linux root, that makes me wanna puke.. don't know what all dirs are fore really?
[11:34] <baro> chmd help
[11:34] <Linux_Galore> aaah found it
[11:34] <abattoir> shad-99: well, if you want to know, what each are, i can point to guides which explain...
[11:35] <baro> a store device mount on account
[11:37] <Jucato> fdoving: sorry, I was away that time. someone just mentioned that the upgrade guide (Dapper to Edgy) was outdated, that one of the commands was causing a database lockup.
[11:38] <pi1l> BusID       "AGP:01:00:0" - that is a line from xorg.conf for one video-out. what it will be for the second?
[11:39] <ubuntu> hi
[11:39] <baro> hallo
[11:40] <ubuntu> i tried to install beryl but something is gone wrong..and now when i start the PC it loads only the terminal
[11:40] <ubuntu> how can i restore my copy of kubuntu?
[11:40] <ubuntu> (sorry for my english)
[11:43] <ubuntu> how can i restore my copy of kubuntu?
[11:43] <ubuntu> yuhu
[11:44] <bomber>      /msg nickserv set hide email on
[11:51] <zorglu_> !info strigi
[11:51] <ubotu> Package strigi does not exist in any distro I know
[11:57] <zorglu_> !strigi
[11:57] <ubotu> strigi is an application which index the files on your desktop. homepage: http://www.vandenoever.info/software/strigi/ package: http://strigi.sourceforge.net/index.php/Binary_packages
[11:58] <zorglu_> mmm im missing something
[11:58] <zorglu_> !info strigi-client
[11:58] <ubotu> strigi-client: Qt4 client for Strigi Desktop Search. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.8-2 (edgy), package size 67 kB, installed size 212 kB
[11:58] <zorglu_> oh ok :)
[12:05] <xenol> plz which libdvdcss2 i need to install in order to get ability to play dvds? plx
[12:06] <xenol> plz which libdvdcss2 i need to install in order to get ability to play dvds? plx
[12:06] <zorglu_> ii  libdvdcss2            1.2.5-1
[12:06] <Jucato> !dvd
[12:06] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[12:06] <zorglu_> this is the one i got from a yesterday install
[12:06] <xenol> for dapper?
[12:06] <zorglu_> nope edgy
[12:07] <xenol> for dapper?
[12:07] <zorglu_> ok you like to repeat yourself :)
[12:08] <NightBird> xenol, try installing it... if it works, then it works, if not, remove it and ask again
[12:08] <Jucato> repeatability = the innate ability to repeat questions when not answered within 5 seconds
[12:08] <NightBird> poptart=food
[12:09] <xenol> lol srz  zorglu_
[12:10] <crazy_bus> I found the flash movie file I wanted to download in the cache of firefox.  However the file is in .swf format.  Unfortuantly ffmpeg2theora just outputs the audio of the file.  Is there anyway to fix this?
[12:11] <Danker> Hi
[12:11] <NightBird> crazy_bus, if you drag it to a web browser, does it all work?
[12:11] <Danker> How to force removal of package?
[12:11] <NightBird> apt-get remove?
[12:12] <Danker> Without any error handling
[12:12] <Danker> Just vanish it...
[12:12] <crazy_bus> If I do that it plays, but without a progress bar
[12:12] <Danker> Doesnt work that
[12:12] <Danker> --purge doest help too...
[12:12] <Danker> dpkg with some option should help i think....
[12:14] <crazy_bus> Is there anyway to convert it to a more accesible format?
[12:16] <fdoving> Jucato: ok, please refer them to me, frode@ubuntu.com if i'm not around.
[12:17] <Jucato> fdoving: someone just told me that. I couldn't really confirm it. I think it was zorglu_, but he ain't here
[12:17] <hak5fan> Hi.. Is it possible to have different icons and taskbars on the different desktops in kde
[12:18] <fdoving> Jucato: ok. i haven't done any upgrades with recent edgy-updates, can't really say i know it works anymore.
[12:19] <shad-99> how do i edit sources.list with root command?
[12:20] <shad-99> i use gedit gui and i can't save the file  when i have edit it?
[12:20] <shad-99> i don't have permission?
[12:21] <Jucato> shad-99: in Kubuntu, it's "kdesu kate"
[12:21] <Dekans> shad-99: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:21] <shad-99> ok ... thanks m8 ;)
[12:21] <Jucato> hm... gksudo and gedit are both GNOME apps, so unless it's installed too
[12:22] <Dekans> Jucato: if he has gedit he must have gksudo too
[12:22] <hak5fan> Hi.. Is it possible to have different icons and taskbars on the different desktops in kde?
[12:22] <shad-99> gksudo doesn't work?
[12:23] <shad-99> command not found
[12:23] <Jucato> shad-99: use kdesu kate instead of gksudo gedit
[12:24] <shad-99> open it in gui or?
[12:24] <hak5fan> write in terminal sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:24] <Dekans> shad-99: kde or Gnome ?
[12:24] <Jucato> shad-99: Press Alt+F2, kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:24] <Jucato> !kdesu
[12:24] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[12:25] <shad-99> ok i will try that.. :S
[12:27] <hak5fan> Is there a setting somewhere which makes it possible to have differnt taskbars and icons on the diffent desktops... In kde
[12:27] <martint> VNC connection reboot my machine, any idea?
[12:27] <ScarFreewill> i need help conecting php to mysql i've got the pakage install "php5-mysql"
[12:28] <martint> c <hak5fan>
[12:28] <martint>  <hak5fan> no that I know
[12:28] <hak5fan> ok
[12:29] <ScarFreewill1> i need help conecting php to mysql i've got the pakage install "php5-mysql"
[12:29] <knubbe> im gonna try to attach my mobile phone to kubuntu (yes, i know this is an issue and it probably wont work, but..). when its attched, how do i see this port its connected to? (/dev/....)
[12:29] <ScarFreewill1> and whats the parameter to speed lemit wget?
[12:30] <martint>  <ScarFreewill1> better take some existing PHP code and reuse it
[12:31] <ScarFreewill1> martint: i tried $conn = mysql_connect($dbhost, $dbuser, $dbpass)
[12:31] <ScarFreewill1> Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in $$$ on line ##
[12:31] <fairman> Hi, i need help to configure proftpd or vsftpd server, could somebody advice me? (I have Kubuntu 6.10)
[12:31] <fdoving> ScarFreewill1: --limit-rate=amount, for wget.
[12:31] <martint> and?
[12:31] <ScarFreewill1> fdoving: thx
[12:32] <ScarFreewill1> martint: i don't know how to connect them :P i don't know if the problem is my code or my server.... i really have no clue
[12:33] <ScarFreewill1> fdoving: is that in bytes?
[12:33] <martint>  <ScarFreewill1> I suggest you use some connection examples (like squirremail or phpMyadmin) to check if you wourl properly
[12:33] <fdoving> ScarFreewill1: 'man wget' for more info.
[12:34] <ScarFreewill1> martint: i know mysql works (phpmyadmin) i know php is working phpinfo()
[12:34] <crazy_bus> I'm trying to convert a flash video to ogg theora with ffmpeg2theora.  However for some reason with this particular file its only recognising the audio.  How do I fix this?
[12:35] <fdoving> ScarFreewill1: does it work of you load mysql.so ?
[12:35] <xenol> i  cant play wmv in kaffeine i  get wmvdmod.dll error
[12:35] <xenol> anz ideas?
[12:35] <xenol> got w32codecs installed
[12:35] <cathal> why on gods green earth do u need root to acess wireless assistant. Surely u should be able to view the local networks without needing root?
[12:36] <tsdgeos> anything that needs access to hardware needs root power
[12:36] <ScarFreewill1> fdoving: i don't know what you mean
[12:36] <fdoving> ScarFreewill1: dl('mysql.so');
[12:37] <martint> VNC connection reboot my machine, any idea?
[12:38] <ScarFreewill1> fdoving: dl('mysql.so');??? its not a console cmd ,,,/>?
[12:38] <fdoving> ScarFreewill1: it's php.
[12:38] <ScarFreewill1> fdoving: ok
[12:39] <ScarFreewill1> fdoving: it does not give any out put
[12:39] <Sean_Heron> hello
[12:39] <ScarFreewill1> Sean_Heron: hi
[12:39] <ScarFreewill1> ^-^
[12:40] <Sean_Heron> Can I ask a question ?
[12:40] <Sean_Heron> Or is something being discussed atm
[12:40] <Sean_Heron> ?
[12:40] <ScarFreewill1> Sean_Heron: no, go ahead
[12:40] <Sean_Heron> thanks :), well, I wanted to ask if there is any way to change back my graphics driver from the recovery mode
[12:41] <Sean_Heron> because since I changed it, it crashes on booting
[12:41] <Sean_Heron> (just before showing login window)
[12:41] <ScarFreewill1> Sean_Heron: when that happens i usually set myne to vesa
[12:41] <ScarFreewill1> Sean_Heron: (vesa the driver)
[12:42] <Sean_Heron> yes, that works
[12:42] <Sean_Heron> (vesa)
[12:42] <ScarFreewill1> Sean_Heron: so do want to know how to set it?
[12:42] <Sean_Heron> What I need to know is how to change to vesa from console :)
[12:42] <ScarFreewill1> Sean_Heron: ok
[12:42] <Sean_Heron> rightd :D
[12:42] <ScarFreewill1> Sean_Heron: when you get to the place where it should ask the login screen
[12:43] <ScarFreewill1> Sean_Heron: press cntl+alt+F1
[12:43] <Sean_Heron> thats kinda too lateish..
[12:43] <Sean_Heron> ah, ok
[12:43] <Sean_Heron> continue :)
[12:43] <ScarFreewill1> *ctrl
[12:44] <Sean_Heron> so I dont do recovery mode ?
[12:44] <ScarFreewill1> Sean_Heron: then your in the console, then tipe "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" (or any other texteditor you like to use instead of nano)
[12:44] <Sean_Heron> ok
[12:44] <Sean_Heron> you german by any chance ?
[12:45] <Sean_Heron> Dann knntest du auch gerne auf deutsch schreiben :)
[12:45] <ScarFreewill1> Sean_Heron: ich spreeken nien deutsch
[12:45] <Sean_Heron> well, no worries :)
[12:45] <ScarFreewill1> (very very little ^^)
[12:46] <ubuntu_> =-
[12:46] <Sean_Heron> in xorg.conf, I guess Ill find an entry, with my driver name
[12:46] <Sean_Heron> and I have to change that to vesa ? yes ?
[12:46] <ScarFreewill1> Sean_Heron: yes
[12:46] <Sean_Heron> vim should do the job as well, right ?
[12:46] <ScarFreewill1> yes
[12:46] <ScarFreewill1> Section "Device"
[12:47] <ScarFreewill1>     Identifier     "Generic Video Card"
[12:47] <ScarFreewill1>     Driver         "vesa"
[12:47] <ScarFreewill1> EndSection
[12:47] <ScarFreewill1> you should change that...
[12:47] <ScarFreewill1> Sean_Heron: are you using dapper?
[12:47] <Sean_Heron> yes
[12:47] <ScarFreewill1> Sean_Heron: and nvidia?
[12:47] <Sean_Heron> no
[12:47] <Sean_Heron> ati
[12:48] <Sean_Heron> Radeon 9000
[12:48] <ScarFreewill1> Sean_Heron: i know 3 people that their drivers just stoped working in dapper
[12:48] <Sean_Heron> and they worked the version earlier ?
[12:48] <ScarFreewill1> Sean_Heron: yes
[12:49] <Sean_Heron> :/
[12:49] <Sean_Heron> well, I guess I could download that
[12:49] <Sean_Heron> any idea if it might be better with edgy ?
[12:49] <ScarFreewill1> Sean_Heron: i've been on egdy most of the time, and now that feisty herd 3 is out i'm downloading it
[12:49] <martint_> VNC connection reboot my machine, any idea?
[12:49] <Sean_Heron> Anyway, youve been a very good help, thank you
[12:50] <ScarFreewill1> Sean_Heron: i like edgy much more than dapper but i have a new gfx card so i don't know how edgy will treat you
[12:50] <Sean_Heron> Ill try changing back to vesa now, and Ill be back if I have any problems :)
[12:50] <ScarFreewill1> Sean_Heron: no prob
[12:50] <ScarFreewill1> Sean_Heron: ok cya
[12:50] <Sean_Heron> see you (hopefully not :D)
[12:50] <ScarFreewill1> Sean_Heron: ^-^
[12:52] <ScarFreewill1> what is the php command to connect to mysql?
[01:03] <bomber> if a file name has spaces in it what character takes the spaces place?
[01:04] <bomber> please
[01:04] <fdoving> bomber: like 'file name' -> file\ name
[01:04] <fdoving> you prepend the space with a \ to tell the system this is a space.
[01:05] <fdoving> or you can use "file name" without a \.
[01:05] <bomber> sweet.... thanks
[01:05] <sorin7486> dose anybody know any SQL channel ? ... I tried #SQL but people don't answer there
[01:07] <bomber> i dont.... sorry
[01:08] <sorin7486> ok ... thank you
[01:11] <Tido> this is completely unrelated, but does anyone know a tool that will look up a song and update it's id3 info?
[01:12] <fdoving> tido, like musicbrainz?
[01:13] <Tido> oo neat, thanks fdoving
[01:15] <fdoving> tido, amarok supports that too, not sure if you need to recompile or not though.. probably some legal issues with it.
[01:15] <slow-motion> hallo
[01:16] <devilsadvocate> hi... whenever i try to open a network stream my amarok tellem me that "no suitable input plugin is found" ... any ideas what is wrong?
[01:23] <stamen> hi
[01:23] <stamen> is KDE 3.5.6 final and stable
[01:23] <stamen> ?
[01:23] <stamen> hould I install
[01:25] <ScarFreewill2> stamen: i think it is
[01:26] <stamen> ok
[01:26] <ScarFreewill2> its on feisty heard 3 i don't think ppl would put it on there if its not stable
[01:26] <stamen> 10x
[01:26] <goodthing> Hmm, wondering. Is stuff like "Broken pipe: Underrun occurred" errors, when recording with audio enabled from the tool recordmydesktop something which can go in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/DellInspironXPSM1710 ?
[01:26] <stamen> ok, I will upgrade :)
[01:26] <ScarFreewill2> !kde
[01:26] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[01:26] <ScarFreewill2> odpm
[01:26] <ScarFreewill2> don't think that will help
[01:27] <Jucato> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php
[01:29] <Sean_Heron> hi, unfortunately, Im back :)
[01:30] <Sean_Heron> Hmm, is my friendly helper no longer here...
[01:31] <Sean_Heron> damn
[01:35] <kkosmo> somone
[01:35] <Sean_Heron> can anybody here tell me, why it might be that I dont have "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" ?
[01:35] <Sean_Heron> as in I dont have /X11
[01:36] <Jucato> not really sure why you wouldn't have that directory.
[01:36] <Jucato> try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall xorg"?
[01:36] <capcom> possibly another window manager?
[01:37] <Jucato> no, X is not dependent on Window Manager
[01:37] <Sean_Heron> Ive installed kubuntu dapper from cd
[01:37] <Sean_Heron> ah ok :)
[01:37] <Sean_Heron> Ill try the reinstal, thanks
[01:38] <Sean_Heron> Its very nice how quickly You get help here :)
[01:38] <Sean_Heron> bye
[01:39] <dewitts> Ace2016: u there
[01:42] <korn> 
[01:42] <Jucato> korn: what?
[01:46] <YumeNoEien> hi everyone
[01:47] <kkosmo> Jucato:
[01:47] <kkosmo> ?
[01:47] <Jucato> huh?
[01:47] <YumeNoEien> what?
[01:47] <kkosmo> are you know how i can make that the key shift+delete move the files to the trash
[01:48] <YumeNoEien> just dont use shift?
[01:49] <kkosmo> i cannt
[01:49] <Jucato> why?
[01:49] <YumeNoEien> kkosmo: is your keyboard broken?
[01:49] <Jucato> pressing the Del key only will move files to trash
[01:49] <kkosmo> dont know i just dont remember
[01:49] <kkosmo> to use delete
[01:49] <kkosmo> i use shift delete
[01:49] <kkosmo> like 5 years
[01:49] <anlux> hello ?
[01:49] <YumeNoEien> lol
[01:49] <kkosmo> its hard to change it
[01:49] <YumeNoEien> hi anlux
[01:49] <anlux> hi
[01:49] <YumeNoEien> k kkosmo
[01:50] <kkosmo> just help how i can change it
[01:50] <zorglu_> !build
[01:50] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:50] <YumeNoEien> remove one of your shift keys for a week
[01:50] <YumeNoEien> youl lose the habit
[01:50] <Jucato> kkosmo: in Konqueror -> Settings menu -> Configure Shortcuts, look for the "Move to Trash" entry and make sure it is set to the Delete key
[01:50] <YumeNoEien> i did the same with my window buttons
[01:50] <YumeNoEien> Hmm Jucato could you help me with something?
[01:51] <anlux> has anyone of you experience with banshee ? My banshee hangs during startup ..
[01:51] <Jucato> if I know how, yes.
[01:51] <YumeNoEien> i have a winmodem probelem
[01:51] <YumeNoEien> i allready went to
[01:51] <YumeNoEien> !winmodem
[01:51] <Jucato> oh.. that I don't know.. :(
[01:51] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[01:51] <YumeNoEien> aww
[01:52] <YumeNoEien> do you know anything about conflicting packages perhaps?
[01:52] <Jucato> hm... what's the situation?
[01:52] <YumeNoEien> wel i installed the driver as the ubuntu site told me to
[01:52] <YumeNoEien> but the modem doesnt work so i went to the package mngr
[01:53] <YumeNoEien> and it says "conflict: sl-modem-modules"
[01:54] <Jucato> YumeNoEien: um...  that "conflicts:" line just tells you that you can't have that package and sl-modem-modules installed at the same time. one of them has to go
[01:54] <YumeNoEien> argh!
[01:54] <YumeNoEien> oh wait
[01:54] <YumeNoEien> so i have the package sl-modem-daemon, and should remove sl-modem-modules
[01:55] <YumeNoEien> ty Jucato
[01:55] <Jucato> hm..
[01:55] <YumeNoEien> :p
[01:55] <Jucato> do you have both installed?
[01:55] <YumeNoEien> i think so, else the conflict wouldnt be there right?
[01:56] <YumeNoEien> but im gonna look if i have the sl-modem-modules installed
[01:56] <YumeNoEien> im sure about the sl-modem-daemon though
[01:56] <Jucato> where are you seeing this conflict?
[01:57] <YumeNoEien> argh
[01:57] <Jucato> YumeNoEien: all packages have "conflicts: " lines
[01:57] <YumeNoEien> oh well i went in package mngr and clicked on the daemon package
[01:57] <YumeNoEien> then hit details
[01:57] <YumeNoEien> oic
[01:57] <Jucato> it just tells the packager that you can't have package A and package B installed at the same time
[01:57] <YumeNoEien> ahh ic
[01:57] <Jucato> it's like a description/command for the package manager
[01:58] <YumeNoEien> because i couldnt find a modules package
[01:58] <YumeNoEien> more like a warning
[01:58] <YumeNoEien> and not an error
[01:59] <YumeNoEien> hmm, hey if i remove the package its not like windows, that it leaves behind any junk files right?
[02:00] <Jucato> Purge it instead of plain Remove and it will remove config files too
[02:02] <YumeNoEien> k
[02:02] <YumeNoEien> whats the CLI input to purge it?
[02:03] <Jucato> apt-get?
[02:03] <Jucato> sudo apt-get remove --purge
[02:03] <YumeNoEien> cool thanks :)
[02:04] <YumeNoEien> so "sudo apt-get remove sl-modem-daemon --purge" in this case
[02:05] <YumeNoEien> argh
[02:06] <YumeNoEien> E: could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Recource temporarily unavailable)
[02:07] <YumeNoEien> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proces using it?
[02:07] <YumeNoEien> >,>
[02:07] <SSJ_GZ> YumeNoEien:Is Adept open?
[02:08] <YumeNoEien> yea
[02:08] <Jucato> please close Adept first
[02:08] <YumeNoEien> oh that was the cause
[02:08] <YumeNoEien> k
[02:08] <YumeNoEien> it is done, cool
[02:08] <YumeNoEien> thanks guys
[02:09] <YumeNoEien> well, guess il mail the linmodem people again
[02:18] <t> does ubuntu do HD-DVD playback?
[02:19] <t> waas reading this and began to wonder http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html#functionality
[02:19] <t> really interesting stuff
[02:19] <t> neway, bye
[02:23] <Poom> can some1 help me with this ? http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/596/snapshot7qz1.png
[02:24] <Jucato> Poom: better ask in #ubuntu-xgl since you have Beryl running
[02:25] <Poom> Jucato: No that black color appear in firefox before I had beryl running
[02:26] <Jucato> Poom: hm... Firefox doesn't follow all of KDE's Style settings, because it's not a KDE/Qt app (it uses GTK). so I'm not entirely sure what else to do
[02:26] <Poom> oh
[02:30] <gerd_> hi there, i am just online with my new kubunty...
[02:30] <gerd_> (nothingmore to say :-)
[02:31] <goodthing> gerd_: upgraded your system right?
[02:31] <gerd_> no -fresh installed.
[02:31] <goodthing> with latest patches and all
[02:31] <goodthing> no i mean the regular updates
[02:32] <gerd_> mmh... dont know :-)
[02:32] <gerd_> will check that soon....(i guess)
[02:32] <goodthing> gerd_: you should know :p
[02:32] <gerd_> could you tell me if there is a german kubuntu channel?
[02:32] <gerd_> #kubuntu.de doesnt exist.
[02:32] <tsdgeos> !de
[02:32] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:33] <gerd_> thanks a lot!
[02:37] <sc0tch> Are there any quick and dirty ways/utilities for measuring network thru-put? (network speeds)
[02:38] <HymnToLife> sc0tch, there are SuperKaramba applets that do it
[02:38] <zakame> iftop, iptraf on the console
[02:45] <dhq> hey  there  i need help 915 drivers
[02:46] <dhq> i just downloaded them and need help
[02:46] <dhq> !915
[02:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 915 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:50] <Jucato> !i915
[02:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i915 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:51] <goodthing> what is 915 to be exact?
[02:51] <Jucato> intel driver I think
[02:51] <Jucato> !intel
[02:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:52] <Jucato> bah I quit :P
[02:52] <fritsch> !xserver-xorg-video-i810
[02:52] <ubotu> xserver-xorg-video-i810: X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.6.5-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 148 kB, installed size 392 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm hppa hurd-i386 i386 ia64 kfreebsd-i386 m68k mips mipsel netbsd-i386 powerpc)
[02:53] <fritsch> Jucato: :-)
[02:53] <Jucato> dhq: ^^^^
[02:53] <Jucato> not mine though lol
[02:54] <dhq> Jucato: i need help dude
[02:55] <Jucato> dhq: if it's about those drivers, I'm clueless...
[02:55] <fritsch> dhq: you messed up your xorg drivers by installing compiz stuff?
[02:55] <dhq> Jucato: where can i get help
[02:55] <fritsch> dhq: there was something 5 months ago?
[02:55] <fritsch> dhq: :-)
[02:55] <Jucato> hm.. anyway, what's the problem?
[02:55] <Jucato> I'll see if I can help
[02:56] <dhq> fritsch: yes
[02:56] <dhq> fritsch: then had to refresh the whole drivers and install kde desktop again
[02:56] <fritsch> dhq: not been here for 5 month ;-)
[02:56] <fritsch> dhq: but the problems are the same
[02:59] <dhq> fritsch: Jucato: well you see when i start my pc my laptop is like in 2 parts the top of the screen is black and some of it is below the screen i cant see  then i have to press my laptoplid button to get everything rite and the again the problem with my opengl etc
[02:59] <Jucato> oh you caught me... 2 things I have no experience with... intel and laptops...
[03:00] <dhq> Jucato: nice
[03:01] <dhq> Jucato: why me  :(
[03:01] <Jucato> sorry dhq.. :(
[03:02] <zakame> dhq: I've the two Jucato lacks, but mine's a 945 and it works fine :/
[03:02] <dhq> Jucato: noproblem
[03:02] <Jucato> zakame: I also lack your expertise, your brain, etc etc etc :P
[03:03] <dhq> zakame: well help me with my problem
[03:03] <zakame> dhq: you say you got the 915 drivers?
[03:03] <dhq> zakame: yes
[03:04] <dhq> zakame: i cant even install xgl
[03:04] <zakame> this is on what release?
[03:06] <dhq> zakame: how to i check my release
[03:06] <Jucato> !version
[03:06] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[03:06] <goodthing> or cat /etc/issue
[03:06] <Jucato> the lsb_release is an LSB standard, so that might be better. it also shows it better :P
[03:06] <dhq> zakame: i am using edgy
[03:07] <dhq> Jucato: no lbs modules avalible
[03:07] <goodthing> Jucato: i see :)
[03:07] <Jucato> lsb, not lbs
[03:07] <Jucato> lsb_release -a
[03:08] <dhq> Jucato: no lsb modules availible
[03:08] <zakame> so, you've gotten the 915 drivers (I presume xorg ones, -i810?) and you're on edgy, right?  did you do `sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg`?
[03:08] <Jucato> O.o
[03:08] <zakame> what would be possible?
[03:08] <goodthing> Jucato: i have that too in the first line when i do  lsb_release -a
[03:08] <BluesKaj> yes , I get the same message no lsb modules available but it continues on and lists the distro and codename
[03:09] <Jucato> weird...
[03:09] <Jucato> never remember getting that
[03:09] <zakame> oh, the lsb modules thing... that means the other lsb packages aren't installed, I think
[03:09] <goodthing> well, it evens out the weirdness of myself, so all good
[03:09] <BluesKaj> what other lsb pkges ?
[03:10] <zakame> well, apt-cache can tell you better ;)
[03:10] <Jucato> but the necessary lsb packages should have been installed
[03:10] <fritsch> lsb-release just depends on lsb-release? non other?
[03:10] <zakame> cxx,desktop,graphics,build, among others
[03:11] <BluesKaj> what does lsb mean ?
[03:11] <zakame> linux standards base
[03:11] <BluesKaj> list b ?
[03:11] <Chousuke> least significant bit
[03:11] <Chousuke> ;P
[03:11] <fritsch> ;-)
[03:11] <BluesKaj> hehe
[03:11] <zakame> currently at version 3.1, I believe
[03:12] <zakame> Chousuke: right on!!11
[03:12] <Jucato> heh
[03:12] <BluesKaj> what's the ls apt-cache command ?
[03:12] <Chousuke> search
[03:12] <Jucato> apt-cache search
[03:12] <Chousuke> or what?
[03:12] <Jucato> apt-cache show <package> etc
[03:14] <BluesKaj> aha , sudo apt-cache show lsb , worked
[03:14] <goodthing> Jucato: well, it is installed here, it just does not show it in the command for some reason
[03:14] <rdarch> can anyone tell me which kernel version the current kubuntu edgy installer installs?
[03:14] <Jucato> BluesKaj: no need for sudo
[03:14] <Jucato> rdarch: 2.6.17-10-generic
[03:14] <rdarch> cheers :)
[03:16] <BluesKaj> well it worked anyway , Jucato :)
[03:16] <Jucato> heh :)
[03:16] <Sean_Heron> hey, I just wanted to mention (in case any of the friendly blokes or lasses from earlier are still around), that I actually did not have /etc/x11/xorg.cofg
[03:16] <Jucato> Sean_Heron: you tried reinstalling the xorg package?
[03:16] <Sean_Heron> what I did have was /etc/X11/xorg.conf :D
[03:16] <Jucato> heh
[03:16] <Sean_Heron> yes thanks :D
[03:16] <Jucato> Linux is case sensitive :)
[03:17] <Jucato> X11 is not the same as x!!
[03:17] <Jucato> er x11
[03:17] <Sean_Heron> I think from today on I might remeber that :D
[03:17] <BluesKaj>  /etc/x11/xorg.confg is the proper file
[03:17] <Sean_Heron> thanks anyway
[03:17] <zakame> yes, there was a cougf there
[03:17] <Jucato> BluesKaj: no. /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:17] <BluesKaj> oops
[03:17] <Jucato> I just said that Linux is case sensitive :P
[03:18] <goodthing> oh this reminds me of something...
[03:19] <Sean_Heron> now, can anybody tell me what precicely I need to have their to have the vesa drivers running, instead of the ones which arent working atm ?
[03:19] <Jucato> !xconfig
[03:19] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[03:19] <Jucato> when you get to the driver selection part, choose vesa
[03:20] <BluesKaj> !FixRes
[03:20] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:20] <Jucato> or if you're using an NVIDIA card, choose nv
[03:20] <Sean_Heron> Someguy told me earlier what I had to do, but unfortunately I didnt copy and save...
[03:20] <Sean_Heron> thats interesting :)
[03:20] <Jucato> nv and ati are the free/open drivers for NVIDIA and ATI cards
[03:20] <binks> has anyone used mtp support for amorak does it work well
[03:20] <binks> !mtp
[03:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mtp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:20] <zakame> wb dhq, how did it go?
[03:21] <Sean_Heron> so just !xconfig, and that should work ?
[03:21] <BluesKaj>  binks, what's mtp ?
[03:21] <Sean_Heron> ok, Ill give that a try, thanks :D
[03:21] <Jucato> Sean_Heron: er
[03:22] <Jucato> no, use the command that the !xconfig factoid gave
[03:22] <binks> its the way my mp3 player connects its not a usb drive
[03:22] <dhq> zakame: i had to log out as my keboard stopped workin
[03:22] <dhq> zakame: strange rite
[03:23] <binks> BlueKaj my mp3 player does mount like a drive it mounts using something called mtp
[03:23] <Sean_Heron> aah
[03:23] <Sean_Heron> the ubotu is not a person :)
[03:23] <Sean_Heron> good you said that :D
[03:23] <BluesKaj> a hardware mp3 player would have the issue with the soundcard not amarok
[03:23] <zakame> dhq: strange indeed :(
[03:24] <binks> BlueKaj http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=316246
[03:24] <binks> its so i can transfere songs on/off
[03:24] <dhq> zakame: so tell me how to get xgl and my grafix working properly
[03:24] <dhq> zakame: you are usin whict drivers
[03:25] <zakame> well I'm using i810, according to my xorg.conf
[03:26] <BluesKaj> ok binks , wasn't aware of that ...amarok tries to be too many things to too many ppl it seems
[03:26] <zakame> I'm not using xgl atm (just upgraded to feisty now) so I can't be of help there, but I do believe i810 should cover 915, with a little help from 915resolution
[03:27] <binks> well no it just uses libmtp to allow me to transfere songs on / off like itunes does for ipods except i have the new samsung k3
[03:27] <dhq> zakame: so your xgl works fine
[03:27] <binks> http://libmtp.sourceforge.net/
[03:28] <zakame> dhq: no, I mean I haven't used xgl yet on this laptop
[03:28] <BluesKaj> binks, is it the 30Gig HDD Samsung player?
[03:28] <zakame> I did use xgl on my aging desktop though, and that's on nvidia :/
[03:29] <dhq> zakame: even i used it on my nvidia desktop
[03:29] <zakame> and it worked fine there?
[03:29] <dhq> zakame: so how do i configure my drivers
[03:30] <ubuntu__> hi
[03:30] <dhq> zakame: yes
[03:30] <ubuntu__> i have some problems installing grub
[03:30] <binks> no its a 4 gig slimline one its very good it has dsp
[03:30] <binks> http://www.trustedreviews.com/multimedia/news/2006/12/06/Samsung-K3-The-Speaker-less-K5/p1
[03:30] <BluesKaj> ok
[03:31] <zakame> dhq: did you try doing a `sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg` and following the prompts?
[03:31] <dhq> zakame: will try now
[03:35] <dhq> zakame: which all should i select dri gl etc
[03:36] <zakame> you could select all for the moment
[03:39] <dhq> zakame: ok done
[03:40] <zakame> how did it go?
[03:41] <dhq> zakame: well ok i guess
[03:41] <dhq> zakame: no errors nothing i guess i have to restart xserver to see the changes
[03:41] <zakame> go ahead
[03:43] <dhq> zakame: brb
[03:44] <BluesKaj> ok, my buddy has dapper and XP installed on his work pc...the company is upgrading to vista,  if he installs vista on the ntfs partition he will lose the Grub bootloader , correct ?  If so what's the best way around that problem ...and no smart remarks pls :)
[03:44] <BluesKaj> he wants to save access to dapper
[03:44] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: Make a boot disk/floppy, or use a rescue disk/live CD to restore the bootloader.  google "restore grub".
[03:45] <jhutchins> "restore bootloader linux"
[03:45] <jhutchins> "restore bootloader ubuntu"
[03:45] <jhutchins> That should give you a weeks worth of howto's.
[03:45] <BluesKaj> jhutchins, what about something like Ultimate boot CD ?
[03:45] <jhutchins> Yup.
[03:45] <BluesKaj> hehe
[03:46] <jhutchins> The goot thing about a boot floppy is that it boots to your existing install and makes it really easy to restore the bootloader without worrying aobut chroot or anything.
[03:46] <jhutchins> I don't do grub, so the exact procedure will have to come from google.
[03:47] <BluesKaj> ok, but I don't think his pc has a floppy drive
[03:48] <jhutchins> cd/usb
[03:48] <BluesKaj> yes of course
[03:49] <dhq> zakame: still the same
[03:51] <zakame> aw :( do you have 915resolution installed?
[03:51] <ubuntu_> hi i want to install kubuntu
[03:51] <ubuntu_> i have 256 mb ram
[03:51] <ubuntu_> how can i activate swap partition
[03:52] <dhq> zakame: i guess i used 815
[03:52] <ubuntu_>  /dev/hda6 is my swap partition
[03:52] <ubuntu_> or can i intall kubuntu from konsole
[03:53] <LeeJunFan> ubuntu_: you shouldn't have to activate it - type run 'free' at the konsole and it'll tell you how much swap you have and is in use, etc... you can install kubuntu from commandline by running 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[03:55] <michaelpo> what is the name of the app in ubuntu6.06 to burn cd of downloaded iso?
[03:55] <ubuntu_>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[03:55] <ubuntu_> Mem:        238640     234620       4020          0       1768      78200
[03:55] <ubuntu_> -/+ buffers/cache:     154652      83988
[03:55] <ubuntu_> Swap:            0          0          0
[03:55] <jhutchins> michaelpo: cdrecord.
[03:56] <michaelpo> i cant find cdrecord in the menu
[03:56] <ubuntu_> what is the normal and root passwords. i have just insert latest kubuntu cd
[03:56] <michaelpo> i have to download and install?
[03:56] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: 1) Don't paste, use pasetebin, freenode's servers will kick you.  2) use fdisk -l to see if you really have a swap partition, it may need the partition type set.
[03:57] <jhutchins> !sudo | ubuntu_
[03:57] <ubotu> ubuntu_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:57] <jhutchins> michaelpo: Command line.
[03:57] <jhutchins> !burn
[03:57] <ubuntu_> i also dont know normal user password
[03:57] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[03:58] <michaelpo> jhutchins: thanks
[03:59] <ubuntu_>  /dev/hda7   256 mb swap partition
[04:00] <raoulsana> hello
[04:00] <raoulsana> someone speak french ?
[04:00] <Jucato> !fr | raoulsana
[04:00] <ubotu> raoulsana: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:00] <raoulsana> thx
[04:00] <ubuntu_> so how can i activate this swap partition
[04:02] <raoulsana> i trie to install kubuntu in siemens-fujitsu primergy server
[04:03] <raoulsana> and i looking for the good driver
[04:03] <raoulsana> i try
[04:03] <raoulsana> lol
[04:04] <ubuntu_> LeeJunFan: 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'  does this command start x server or just start installing.
[04:04] <michaelpo> ok.. the howto say to right click and "writing image to disc", but i'm not sure if it can detect my writer... it keep on asking me to put in cd or cdrw... i have tried many different blank cds and cdrws already...
[04:06] <michaelpo> what do i do now... help...
[04:08] <wimpies> HI all/any, just did a update to feisty 3(had feisty2) but now amarok refuses to play mp3 (It hangs) ?
[04:09] <Chousuke> ... just what did they break in that release?
[04:09] <Chousuke> it seems everyone is having sound problems .P
[04:10] <zakame> wimpies: hmm looks local to you, I'm playing mp3s quite fine here on latest feisty
[04:10] <wimpies> using amarok ?
[04:10] <Jucato> wimpies: you can also try in #ubuntu+1 if people are experiencing similar things
[04:11] <wimpies> jucato : trying that no but seems nobody's there ...
[04:11] <wimpies> mpg123 plays it ...
[04:13] <wimpies> Yep ... I hear the sound of a dialog that is supposed to popup but I cannot see the dialog and the amarok apps hangs
[04:13] <crazy_penguin> Hello
[04:15] <M_Fatih2> hi eerybody
[04:17] <michaelpo> how do i check if ubuntu6.06 detected my cdwriter correctly or not?
[04:17] <tazz> i am having problems reading data of my dvdwriter i just burned a cd using k3b but when i insert my cd the folder shows up blank :-S, i am using kubuntu edgy
[04:19] <angasule> tazz: can you test the cd on another computer?
[04:19] <goodthing> tazz: maybe the dvd station in not mounted?
[04:19] <utente> ciao
[04:19] <Andale> ciao utente :D
[04:19] <ubuntu_> can i install kubuntu to a 5 GB partition
[04:20] <utente> bella andale
[04:20] <utente> ma sono tutti stranieri ?
[04:20] <angasule> ubuntu_: yes
[04:20] <angasule> !it | utente
[04:20] <ubotu> utente: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[04:20] <tazz> angasule, other cds show up blank as well
[04:20] <utente> occhei
[04:20] <utente> thk
[04:20] <goodthing> ubuntu: yes, but more is better
[04:21] <tazz> the dvd-wr mounts but there is no visible data
[04:21] <goodthing> and you'll probably gona hit the roof quick
[04:21] <angasule> tazz: well, assuming they are not blank :) open k3b, go to Tools->Diskinfo, and check if the disk is empty or full
[04:21] <tazz> angasule, full
[04:22] <angasule> tazz: those other disks, they were working previously? on the same or different computer?
[04:22] <tazz> even disk-admin shows that the cds are full
[04:22] <ForgeAus> whats the ubuntu1/2/3/etc attached to the end of packages mean?
[04:23] <tazz> angasule, ever thing works on other computer but just not with this dvdwriter i switched it with a cd-wr same problem
[04:25] <angasule> tazz: oh, one thing: you insert the disk, a dialog shows up and you choose to open the cd, then the disk shows up as blank, right?
[04:25] <tazz> angasule, no i dont get any dialog
[04:25] <angasule> tazz: you don't get any dialog upon inserting a disk??
[04:26] <tazz> but when i go to /media/cdrom0 it sohws as mounted
[04:26] <tazz> angasule, nope
[04:26] <angasule> tazz: something like: /dev/hda on /media/cdrom0 type iso9660 (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,user=angasule)
[04:26] <angasule> tazz: that's odd, remove the CD, and check if it still thinks it's mounted
[04:28] <angasule> tazz: it sometimes happens in edgy, that after loading a CD, you have to hit refresh in konqueror to actually see the contents, but I don't think that's the problem in your case
[04:28] <tazz> ah got the problem, the problem is that the permissions are set to root
[04:28] <tazz> so many root can view the data
[04:28] <tazz> how do i change that?
[04:29] <tazz> so only root can view the data
[04:29] <ForgeAus> laptops/tablets etc don't really need bluetooth right? I mean you could plug a dongle in but they don't really need it right?
[04:29] <angasule> tazz: gimme a min, it's done in the System Settings, but I have to open it since I don't remember it exactly :)
[04:30] <BluesKaj> jhutchins,  http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/?section=download
[04:30] <ilyaostr9> kubuntu are awesum
[04:30] <ilyaostr9> yeyeyey
[04:30] <ilyaostr9> www.kubuntuisthebest.com
[04:31] <angasule> tazz: go to Advanced-> Disk and filesystems -> admin mode
[04:31] <ilyaostr9> Hi UBNNY
[04:31] <ilyaostr9> BOOBUNTU
[04:31] <angasule> tazz: I have it configured as: writable (checkbox enabled) and 'one user at a time may enable/disable')
[04:31] <ilyaostr9> KOOBOOBOONTOO ROX
[04:32] <tazz> angasule, you mean gksu disks-admin?
[04:32] <angasule> tazz: the system settings, in the KDE Menu->system settings
[04:33] <angasule> tazz: or, you might go to /media and do "sudo 777 cdrom0" which will give anyone permission for anything with cdrom0
[04:34] <ilyaostr9> LOL PENIS
[04:34] <angasule> angasule: but I'm not sure that "proper", I just noticed that's how I have it set up :)
[04:34] <goodthing> chillout ilyaostr9
[04:34] <tazz> angasule, done got it thanks angasule
[04:35] <angasule> tazz: have fun :)
[04:35] <ilyaostr9> but i want a penis fight!
[04:35] <angasule> ilyaostr9: you'd lose, now behave
[04:35] <ilyaostr9> will u penis fight with me goodthing
[04:35] <ilyaostr9> my penis is huuuuge
[04:35] <ilyaostr9> lol
[04:35] <Jucato> ilyaostr9: stop that or leave
[04:36] <goodthing> don't tell me this is happening...
[04:36] <ForgeAus> ily yeah but only when you use a microscope
[04:36] <Jucato> heh ok. just leave...
[04:36] <ForgeAus> ah kewl
[04:36] <goodthing> ah :)
[04:43] <Pricey> Hey, I can't get amarok mounting my ipod anymore... Its mounted at "/media/JOE'S IPOD" and no matter how I format that path, it says there's no ipod found
[04:49] <Vuen> hi, question, why is Ark so hard to use?
[04:49] <hammer2> !libdvdcss
[04:49] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:49] <d0dge> Vuen: It's not?
[04:49] <Vuen> why is it that when i merely select some files, i get three 'unrar' processes that tie up my entire CPU and hard drive?
[04:50] <Vuen> why does it insist on launching a bunch of unrars without confirming ANYTHING with me? why does it do this when i just box-select files in an archive? why can't i just drag files off into a konqueror window?
[04:52] <orient2000> Hi! Is there any program to burn iso to CD? My k3b dosn't work.
[04:52] <Vuen> orient2000: gnomebaker
[04:52] <Vuen> orient2000: it's gtk, but it'l work
[04:53] <orient2000> I will trywhat is gtk?
[04:53] <ForgeAus> Graphic Tool Kit (I think)
[04:53] <ForgeAus> its also the basis of Gnome
[04:53] <ForgeAus> (kinda like how QT is the basis of KDE)
[04:53] <orient2000> is it in kde?
[04:54] <orient2000> OK thanks
[04:54] <ForgeAus> its in kubuntu, not sure if its in kde excatly
[04:54] <Jucato> GTK = the GIMP Tool Kit, the GUI toolkit that GNOME uses
[04:54] <Theory> what is broken about k3b ?
[04:54] <Jucato> (and it's Qt, not QT)
[04:55] <ForgeAus> gimp tool kit? wow...
[04:55] <Jucato> yep. the GIMP is older than GNOME :)
[04:55] <ForgeAus> Gimp is THAT important to Gnome?
[04:55] <Jucato> no silly :P
[04:55] <Jucato> GTK was the toolkit used to create the GIMP
[04:55] <Jucato> or rather
[04:55] <Jucato> the 2 were developed side by side
[04:55] <ForgeAus> thats what I thought
[04:55] <Chousuke> GTK was created to create the gimp.
[04:56] <Jucato> and when the time came for GNOME to be born, they decided to use GTK for it
[05:15] <test34> Were the vulnerabilities causing DoS in Bind 9.3.2-2ubuntu3 fixed ? or where can I find out ?
[05:15] <Wespe>  hi, how can i make my kde panel completely transparent?
[05:17] <Wespe> when i set the panel background to transparent I only get about 80% transaprency
[05:17] <abattoir> Wespe: rt. click->Configure Panel->Appearance->Advanced->transparency
[05:17] <juano_> Wespe: right click you panel configure your panel
[05:17] <Jucato> oh great
[05:17] <abattoir> aah, i didn't notice the netsplit
[05:17] <Wespe> well I tried that, but i only get about 80% transparency
[05:18] <abattoir> Wespe: try changing the 'tint' amount
[05:18] <juano_> Wespe: advanced options ---> tint amount
[05:18] <Wespe> ah, i see
[05:18] <Wespe> that's it, thanx all
[05:28] <eMish_> i installed fluxbox, when logging in, i got 'failed to start enc=utf8' session, falling back' and go KDE. how to fix ?
[05:36] <meduxa> hi, is anybody around attendind to the international free software conference in Extremadura, Spain, next week?
[05:36] <meduxa> http://www.freesoftwareworldconference.com/en/
[05:37] <meduxa> I'll be there and I can show you guys mEDUXa, the Kubuntu based edu distro from the Canary Island Gov
[05:38] <easytiger> cool.
[05:38] <meduxa> write me an e-mail if you go so I can meet you: abenito@grupocpd.com o eslic@ejerciciosresueltos.com
[05:40] <goodthing> lol, i just fried my old monitor with herd3 :p
[05:41] <goodthing> was weird it did still function anyway
[05:49] <draik> Somehow, somebody changed the pw on my laptop and now I can't get in
[05:49] <draik> How do I go about changing the pw?
[05:49] <acfrazier> I have a problem
[05:49] <acfrazier> anything I do to try and get into KDE on my live CD, it doesn't work. I need to install linux on the new partition I made but I can't get the graphics up and running
[05:49] <acfrazier> it just says no screen found
[05:52] <luca_b> !xgl
[05:52] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:57] <acfrazier> X
[05:57] <acfrazier> !X
[05:57] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:03] <acfrazier> anyone here?
[06:04] <jhutchins> Nope.
[06:04] <draik> It's rather strange to not find people here on a saturday
[06:05] <acfrazier> meh
[06:05] <acfrazier> well is anyone able to help?
[06:06] <draik> I'm not sure how or why it happened, but it seems that someone has deleted my user from my laptop
[06:06] <draik> and I can't login
[06:06] <carl> Hi
[06:06] <acfrazier> hello
[06:06] <carl> How do I install new themes in kubuntu?
[06:06] <acfrazier> you got kubuntu running?
[06:06] <acfrazier> I still don't.
[06:07] <draik> I have Kubuntu running, but I've had issues with themes before
[06:07] <carl> ..?
[06:07] <acfrazier> I still need to get mine installed
[06:07] <acfrazier> lemme try downloading the DVD
[06:08] <acfrazier> cause I was using the CD.. probably had lack of drivers for my GFX card, that's why
[06:08] <Eruantalon> Ivtv doesn't work for me. I am getting error when I do "sudo modprobe ivtv". I get the "Unknown symbol video_unregister_device"-types of errors that are mentioned at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_IVTV_Edgy, but reinstalling the kernel as instructed changed nothing. What to do?
[06:08] <Eruantalon> !themes
[06:08] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[06:09] <acfrazier> probably !changethemes would help carl
[06:09] <carl> !changethemes'
[06:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about changethemes' - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:09] <carl> !changethemes
[06:09] <ubotu> [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[06:09] <Eruantalon> !ivtv
[06:09] <ubotu> IVTV can be installed on Edgy by following the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_IVTV_Edgy
[06:10] <acfrazier> !installingkubuntu
[06:16] <M_Fatih2> i have a problem with polyester theme in kde
[06:17] <M_Fatih2> my polyester theme's glass typed buttons not working..
[06:19] <distry> whats a good alternative to the default dock in kubuntu?
[06:25] <adaptr> smoothdock !
[06:25] <adaptr> beautiful, but tricky to get right - and hheaavvyyy on your system :)
[06:25] <jriffle> where can i find a list of mirrors for the kubuntu-herd3 release, my download is at 7.6 KB/sec on a 5 Meg cable connection
[06:26] <jriffle> i'm not that patient
[06:26] <Eruantalon> Ivtv doesn't work for me. I am getting error when I do "sudo modprobe ivtv". I get the "Unknown symbol video_unregister_device"-types of errors that are mentioned at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_IVTV_Edgy, but reinstalling the kernel as instructed changed nothing. What to do?
[06:26] <jriffle> and there were only 3 people seeding the torrent
[06:27] <zorglu_> jriffle: using bittorrent will likely make it better, no ?
[06:27] <draik> How do I use the LiveCD to get into my HDD partition and access everything on it as if I was running the actual HDD, not LiveCD?
[06:28] <jriffle> zorglu_: there are only 3 people seeding the file, i would prefer a fast server so i don't have to wait until tomorrow to play with it
[06:28] <zorglu_> jriffle: the number of peer is not that relevant, only the speed of all the peer matter
[06:28] <zorglu_> jriffle: have you tried ?
[06:29] <jriffle> yes ktorrent is downloading now at 11K
[06:29] <zorglu_> ah ok :)
[06:29] <zorglu_> then i dunno
[06:29] <apokryphos> torrents suck, use metalinks 8)
[06:29] <draik> !chroot
[06:30] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[06:30] <zorglu_> apokryphos: yep they have good principle but horrible excution :)
[06:30] <zorglu_> apokryphos: and i mean HORRIBLE :)
[06:30] <apokryphos> zorglu_: aria2 has a pretty good implementation; what's wrong with it?
[06:30] <zorglu_> like no spec, producing bogus xml etc... :)
[06:30] <draik> I'm not sure what I am looking for now
[06:31] <apokryphos> zorglu_: eh?
[06:31] <zorglu_> apokryphos: yep believe me to implement it is 'impossible' :)
[06:31] <apokryphos> zorglu_: well, it has been implemented, and it works very well, so... ;-)
[06:31] <zorglu_> apokryphos: and i did tried a lot
[06:31] <zorglu_> apokryphos: well i doubt that :)
[06:32] <apokryphos> you doubt that it works?
[06:32] <goodthing> ehm, the desktop herd3 is gone well for me
[06:32] <zorglu_> apokryphos: yep :)
[06:32] <apokryphos> zorglu_: we had over 60,000 downloads with metalinks for openSUSE in about 2 days. So :)
[06:32] <zorglu_> apokryphos: so ? :)
[06:32] <draik> Where are passwords kept in Kubuntu?
[06:33] <apokryphos> zorglu_: so you're going to have to expand on the very vague "doesn't work", of course
[06:33] <fdoving> draik: the ones in the wallet?
[06:33] <draik> and how do I mount the HDD so that I can access it directly while still using the LiveCD
[06:33] <zorglu_> apokryphos: ok i can try, they produce bogus XML, they have huge hole in the spec, like completly unspecified stuff
[06:33] <draik> fdoving: No. It seems that someone got into my system and added users and changed my pw
[06:33] <zorglu_> apokryphos: when they are multiple file, they dont say what to do
[06:34] <fdoving> draik: ah. those passwords are kept in /etc/shadow
[06:34] <zorglu_> apokryphos: and in fact there is nothing to do except either 'interactively asking' the user or download them all
[06:34] <apokryphos> zorglu_: I don't know about XML, but what exactly is bogus about them? Tell me, and I'll ask.
[06:34] <apokryphos> zorglu_: when they are multiple file, they dont say what to do <-- eh?
[06:34] <zorglu_> apokryphos: if you ask the user to choose,... well may be be acceptable in some context, but not in mine :)
[06:35] <apokryphos> what's wrong with not asking the user to choose which mirror to use?
[06:35] <zorglu_> apokryphos: and download them all is bad, because some put all the version of the file in the same .metalink
[06:35] <draik> fdoving: How do I access that file to change the password or to at least find out what the pw is?
[06:35] <apokryphos> zorglu_: download all what?
[06:35] <zorglu_> apokryphos: like openoffice which provide all the version
[06:36] <apokryphos> I honestly don't understand what you're staying. They provide all the version of what?
[06:36] <apokryphos> *saying
[06:36] <fdoving> draik: you can't easily find out what the password is, the easiest is to re-set it.
[06:36] <draik> fdoving: How do I do that?
[06:36] <zorglu_> apokryphos: oh and i forgot :) they say 'use .torrent in xml and not in bencode' but dont give the xml format for it :))))))))))))
[06:36] <fdoving> draik: in recovery mode, 'passwd username'
[06:37] <draik> ok
[06:37] <draik> will do
[06:37] <zorglu_> apokryphos: so it qualifies as 'no spec' to me :)
[06:37] <apokryphos> zorglu_: so you're annoyed about its implementation into the specific XML files?
[06:37] <fdoving> draik: if someone (evil) gained access to your system and changed your password, i would re-install. you don't know what they might have done to your system.
[06:37] <apokryphos> zorglu_: ok, but this is very far from "doesn't work". It does.
[06:37] <zorglu_> apokryphos: and as 'i dont think it has been implemented' :)
[06:37] <draik> fdoving: I had 3 extra users: flor mcc and users
[06:38] <bubu1uk> can i install ubuntu system without GUI? just base system.
[06:38] <apokryphos> zorglu_: metalinks are also really only going to get bigger. wget and kget support for them is being added right now
[06:38] <fdoving> bubu1uk: yes, select server install.
[06:38] <apokryphos> with regard to kget, nothing until kde4 though
[06:38] <zorglu_> apokryphos: well i implemented all what aria does and i noted in my doc 'metalink is ultra beta. dont use it except if you know what you are doing' :)
[06:38] <bubu1uk> fdoving: thanx
[06:38] <Eruantalon> Is there a way just as good as "gksu update-manager -c" for kubuntu?
[06:39] <zorglu_> apokryphos: then i hope they will do a spec for it
[06:39] <obowang> hi
[06:39] <apokryphos> zorglu_: I hope those issues are sorted out too, but the fact that it works very well with aria2 at the moment is more than reason enough to recommend that users use it.
[06:39] <draik> fdoving: my laptop is a full Kubuntu install, no partitions. WHere do I get the screen for recovery mode?
[06:39] <fdoving> Eruantalon: no, that tool doesn't exist yet. if you have update-manager (from ubuntu) installed, you can run it with 'kdesu -- update-manager -c'
[06:40] <obowang> what are minimun requeriments to install kubuntu 6.10?
[06:40] <fdoving> draik: at boot, in the grub menu.
[06:40] <zorglu_> apokryphos: i think i got the source of our disagreement :) you got a much lower definition of what 'works' than me :)
[06:40] <draik> fdoving: will do
[06:40] <Eruantalon> fdoving: Is there any reason not to do this seems a lot easier than the kubuntu way. By the way will this simple methods be implemented in feisty?
[06:41] <zorglu_> for me a protocol which has issue, which has seriously bogus spec can't be said 'to work' :)
[06:41] <apokryphos> zorglu_: or just a very different one. You're asking what works on the coding/XML level, whereas what's really important for users is whether it does what you want it to, and doesn't kill bad things in theprocess.
[06:41] <zorglu_> apokryphos: for you to work seems to be 'it doesn core dump' :)
[06:41] <fdoving> Eruantalon: it's beeing implemented for feisty.
[06:41] <zorglu_> apokryphos: btw you said 'you will ask' ... you know those guys ? they are on irc?
[06:41] <Eruantalon> good
[06:41] <obowang> what are minimun requeriments to install kubuntu 6.10?
[06:42] <apokryphos> zorglu_: user process is quite simple: (i) I want to download an ISO, (ii) I want this fast, (iii) I don't want my computer to break because of it. (iv) I don't want other things to be ruined because of it.
[06:42] <Eruantalon> !minimumrequirements
[06:42] <apokryphos> zorglu_: I speak to twanj (one of the lead guys) now and again, but he hasn't been on for a few days. I'm sure he'd love to speak to you though. Would you like his addy?
[06:42] <draik> fdoving: Thank you. I got it
[06:42] <zorglu_> apokryphos: yep i would love that. they are some good stuff. fixing is not hard. just some work to do
[06:43] <zorglu_> apokryphos: is he on irc ?
[06:43] <fdoving> Eruantalon: for the livecd, 256MB RAM, installation needs around 2GB disk space.
[06:43] <strus> hi all
[06:43] <zorglu_> apokryphos: what is his nick ? i can put it on watchlist to know when he is there
[06:43] <apokryphos> zorglu_: not at the moment. He comes on now and again though
[06:43] <Mossblaser> Hello! I am having problems installing the nVIDIA drivers for my graphics card, previously with ubuntu I simply needed to apt-get them with adept and then I could change the drivers to propriatary in the sytem settings screen, restart X and everything would work. Now for some reason no matter how i enable the drivers (through settings, configuration command thingy or manualy) I can still not get anything but i see the
[06:43] <Mossblaser> boot screen for a few secconds and then a flashing cursor, the only way to recover from the situation is to restore a backed up config file and i'm back to "square one", any ideas?
[06:43] <apokryphos> zorglu_: he doesn't normally hang around in here though. I see him in #suse when he's in there
[06:43] <Eruantalon> obowang: Did you get that?
[06:43] <apokryphos> zorglu_: I do recommend emailing him though, and he'll probably come on then.
[06:44] <obowang> no
[06:44] <zorglu_> apokryphos: ok remember his nickname ?
[06:44] <apokryphos> twanj
[06:44] <Eruantalon> obowang  for the livecd, 256MB RAM, installation needs around 2GB disk space.
[06:44] <zorglu_> ok thanks
[06:44] <zorglu_> apokryphos: quite informative this #kubuntu :)
[06:44] <obowang> and cpu?
[06:44] <apokryphos> 8)
[06:44] <obowang> ubuntu 6.10 + beryl only 256 mb?
[06:45] <embrik> I've forgot how to install java - I've downloaded jre-6-linux-i586-rpm.bin
[06:45] <apokryphos> metalink support in kget will be really nice though :D
[06:46] <zorglu_> apokryphos: they have it i think
[06:46] <strus> i've problem with resolution, i'm traing to set 1280x800 (i use laptop lenovo n100) and i have a problem with this, i set the resolution into xorg.conf but when I start the Xserver i've only 1024x786, is here anyone who could help me to solve this problem?
[06:46] <apokryphos> I know code was being worked on a few weeks ago for it, but I haven't been following
[06:46] <zorglu_> apokryphos: they already worked on it like 2-3month ago, so i guess it is done by now
[06:46] <apokryphos> s/weeks/months/, then, I guess. Time flies :)
[06:46] <apokryphos> zorglu_: sounds good; I think I'll try it out soon.
[06:47] <draik> fdoving: I can't get in
[06:47] <draik> fdoving: It's taking the pw, it's about to load the splash screen and goes back to the login screen
[06:47] <draik> fdoving: I can't even log in to the Console
[06:51] <jriffle> where can i download kubuntu (herd3) using metalink
[06:51] <jriffle> i have aria2
[06:52] <Eruantalon> what is aria2?
[06:53] <jriffle> metalink downloader
[06:53] <draik> !firewall
[06:53] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[06:53] <draik> !Guarddog
[06:54] <draik> !Guarddog
[06:54] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[06:56] <Eruantalon> !metalink
[06:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about metalink - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:58] <exitus> hi all
[07:06] <jhutchins> jriffle: Somebody'd have to be serving it via metalink.  I don't know of any way to find available metalink downloads, never heard of metalink before.
[07:06] <jhutchins> jriffle_: You'll get better DL rates from the mirrors than you will with bittorrent anyway.
[07:06] <darkblue> anyone having problems with the new beryl update?
[07:07] <Eruantalon> Hmm the bittorrent is slow for me (alternate)
[07:08] <acfrazier> same for me and the DVD
[07:08] <theshadow> I'm sorry but there isn't anyone in #ati thats responding. I'm trying to set my resolution above 1024x768 but everytime I try to set it with aticonfig --resolution=0,1280x1024 it says "screen0 does not exist" can anyone help me?
[07:08] <Dr_willis> darkblue,  - a problem as in 'it crashes with some error' ? :)
[07:09] <acfrazier> everytime I try and start X mine says no screen found
[07:09] <acfrazier> XD
[07:09] <Dr_willis> theshadow,  check the xorg.conf - perhaps the screen is named screen1 or somthing.
[07:09] <jriffle_> jhutchins: its the other way around, bittorrent is 20K, mirror is 6-7K
[07:09] <jriffle_> jhutchins: both are too slow
[07:09] <Dr_willis> we need bittorrent mirrors! :)
[07:09] <Eruantalon> my torrent is at 50 k now
[07:09] <jhutchins> jriffle_: Find a better mirror.
[07:10] <acfrazier> my download is 1mb/sec around there but I'm using a download accellerator in firefox..
[07:10] <jhutchins> I typically get 200 - 300k.
[07:12] <theshadow> Dr_willis: which section should I be looking under?
[07:12] <Dr_willis> the screen or layout section would be my guess
[07:13] <theshadow> Dr_willis: kinda new to this. What would th line look like?
[07:13] <jriffle_> jhutchins: that's what i'm looking for, mirrors for kubuntu herd3
[07:13] <Dr_willis> theshadow,  not sure - ive never USED that specific tool.
[07:13] <Dr_willis> but the screen section has an 'identifire' entry
[07:14] <Dr_willis> Identifier     "Default Screen"
[07:14] <Dr_willis> is mine
[07:14] <theshadow> Dr_willis: I have a line in "ServerLayout" that says Screen "Default Screen 0 0
[07:14] <theshadow> "Default Screen"*
[07:14] <Dr_willis> you may be able to use the kde tools to change the resolution now , if you have the ati drivers installed.
[07:14] <Dr_willis> Perhperials -> monitor & display
[07:14] <theshadow> Dr_willis: they don't show anything above 1024x768
[07:14] <Dr_willis> theshadow,  you did install the ati/fglrx drivers?
[07:15] <theshadow> Dr_willis: yea exactly as the instructions had them aaaat cchtml.com
[07:15] <Dr_willis> never heard of that site.. i just use the !ati wiki page
[07:15] <Dr_willis> !ati
[07:15] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:15] <Dr_willis> actually im now ATI-Free :) so i dont even use that site any more
[07:16] <Dr_willis> im guessing that  aticonfig --resolution=0,1280x1024    , SOMEHOW can be told what 'screen name' to look for.
[07:16] <Dr_willis> which in my confif file is called "Default Screen"
[07:17] <Eruantalon> theshadow: What do you have for your monitor in xorg.conf?
[07:17] <theshadow> Eruantalon: one sec
[07:17] <Dr_willis> you could put yoru whole xorg.conf to a pastebin site.
[07:17] <Dr_willis> !pastebin
[07:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:18] <theshadow> Eruantalon: says generic monitor.
[07:18] <draik> fdoving: I get this error now when trying to update my packages:
[07:18] <draik> http://pastebin.ca/338784
[07:18] <Eruantalon> theshadow: That might be your problem. It doesn't recognise your monitor and assumes it is a low spec one
[07:19] <Eruantalon> Find your specs for your monitor and put in the right specs
[07:19] <theshadow> Eruantalon: ok
[07:20] <draik> Anyone else getting this error when trying to get updates: Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)     ?
[07:21] <fdoving> draik: looks like you have some proxy settings that doesn't work.
[07:22] <inteliwasp> what do i need to do to resove a rather fast clock on my box?
[07:22] <jhutchins> inteliwasp: How fast?
[07:22] <inteliwasp> over time i have seen it become 30+ minutes fast
[07:23] <JohnFlux> inteliwasp: just turn on ntp
[07:23] <JohnFlux> inteliwasp: it learns if the clock is fast/slow and auto-adjusts it
[07:24] <inteliwasp> i do have ntp on... still fast
[07:24] <JohnFlux> inteliwasp: right click on the clock, and chose adjust date and time
[07:24] <draik> fdoving: Hmmm... I don't recall anything with proxy changes
[07:24] <JohnFlux> uh
[07:24] <inteliwasp> already on
[07:24] <draik> AFAIK, I don't touch anything with proxy settings
[07:24] <jhutchins> inteliwasp: Read up on ntp then, check how it's running, why it's not keeping you in sync.
[07:25] <draik> What packages should I be looking for?
[07:25] <inteliwasp> jhutchins: got any links for configuring ntp?
[07:25] <jhutchins> if your clock is getting 30 minutes ahead, ntp isn't working properly.
[07:25] <jhutchins> http://www.ntp.org/ntpfaq/
[07:26] <inteliwasp> jhutchins: i gonna use my server as a local time server and use that for local ntp...
[07:26] <xndt> hello. i'm currently logged in on a laptop with kubuntu cd live and now i am trying to install it on hard drive. unfortunately i have windows installed on it and don;t wanna loose it. durring xp install, i've left 20 gb unpartitioned. now at ubuntu install, how can i set the root "/" partition? is it enough to type / in the label field from the create partition dialog ?
[07:26] <inteliwasp> jhutchins: thanks
[07:26] <xndt> also, do i have to set it active?
[07:26] <jhutchins> Most people are using pool.ntp.org for their servers now; we've found there are reasons to use local routers.
[07:26] <JohnFlux> inteliwasp: in /etc/ntp.conf
[07:27] <JohnFlux> inteliwasp: do you have a drift file ?
[07:27] <blekos> hello, how can i associate torrents with ktorrent so they are automatically downloaded by it?
[07:27] <jhutchins> inteliwasp: Your logs should show why it might not be working.
[07:27] <yipe> my kaffeine seems to be broken :( It crashes on opening
[07:27] <Dr_willis> xndt,  you mean you have 20gb of 'unallocated' space? or 20gb free on the windows C: drive?
[07:27] <xndt> Dr_willis: unalocated :)
[07:27] <draik> fdoving: I searched for "proxy" in adept and found that I have SMPROXY installed. Remove it?
[07:28] <inteliwasp> jhutchins: there is a drift file listed but nothing in it
[07:28] <fdoving> draik: no, it's not that.
[07:28] <fdoving> draik: check /etc/apt/apt.conf for proxy settings.
[07:28] <JohnFlux> blekos: settings->configure konqueror -> file associations
[07:28] <draik> ok
[07:29] <blekos> thnx
[07:29] <draik> fdoving: Nothing. Empty file
[07:29] <Dr_willis> xndt,  it 'should' be like /dev/hda2 then - actually i thought ht elive cd inrtaller had a check box for 'use unallocated space'
[07:29] <draik> nano /etc/apt/apt.conf
[07:29] <Dr_willis> xndt,  it shoudl then make 2 partitions one for swap and one for /
[07:30] <blekos> i dont have a configure konqueror option...
[07:30] <fdoving> draik: anything inside /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ about proxies?
[07:31] <draik> fdoving: Nope
[07:32] <draik> I'm going to restart and see if something starts up that shouldn't
[07:33] <xndt> Dr_willis: bear with me a little, please. here is the current setup: /dev/sda1:nfts, active /dev/sda2:extended and under sda2 i have sda5:ntfs and sda-1:free.
[07:33] <draik> fdoving: Hmmm...
[07:34] <draik> fdoving: Whatever it was/is isn't running now. I got my updates
[07:34] <xndt> so here is what i`m doing: select the sda-1 partition, click create, set it as linux-swap and set its size 1000mb.
[07:35] <xndt> now select sda-1, create, set it ext3, label "/" and size was set by kubuntu installer to remaining 19000 mb\
[07:35] <xndt> is that label enough for the installer to know that there is the partition i want it to use?
[07:37] <xndt> Dr_willis ?
[07:37] <edu> !winmodem
[07:37] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[07:38] <draik> Does anyone here recommend a good firewall? I'm thinking about guarddog
[07:39] <ben_m> Hey :) If I want to watch a video, I only get sound and no image, unless I open 2 videos, one of them has an image then ... any ideas why?
[07:39] <JohnFlux> draik: for your own machine?
[07:39] <draik> JohnFlux: Yes
[07:39] <Eruantalon> ben_m: Using an ati card?
[07:39] <ben_m> yes.
[07:39] <fdoving> xndt: setting the mountpoint to / is enought. the -label- really doesn't matter. the mountpoint matters.
[07:39] <Eruantalon> thought so. Using binary drivers or opensource?
[07:39] <ben_m> fglrx/radeon/ati all have the same problem
[07:40] <Eruantalon> ok
[07:40] <Eruantalon> and you are using kaffeine?
[07:40] <xndt> fdoving i don't have no 'mountpoint" option. currently i'm running the installer from the kubuntu live cd kde
[07:40] <ben_m> It's on every player.
[07:40] <ben_m> tried vlc and the gnome one too
[07:40] <blekos> could someone tell my what's on his Kmenu? I think i'm missing a couple of things. I have 1.Graphics 2. Internet 3. Mutlimedia 4.office 5.settings [contains only firestarter] 6.system 7.utilities 8.add/remove 9.find 10.help 11.system settings 12.actions...
[07:40] <shadowhywind> hay all, when i get this message "configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH"  what package needs to be installed?
[07:40] <Eruantalon> ben_m: Bad drivers/cards are the cause of this. It can be helped though.
[07:41] <fdoving> xndt: ok. i can't recall what that looks like. so i'm sorry, i'm useless at this point.
[07:41] <Eruantalon> Open of kaffeine
[07:41] <Eruantalon> up
[07:41] <ben_m> did.
[07:41] <Eruantalon> choose xine paramaters
[07:41] <Eruantalon> video
[07:41] <Eruantalon> and select another driver.
[07:41] <ben_m> done
[07:42] <ben_m> anyone?
[07:42] <Eruantalon> try xv for example.
[07:42] <Eruantalon> I am not sure what are the pro and cons of each
[07:42] <ben_m> doesn't work with xv.
[07:42] <Eruantalon> hmm
[07:42] <Eruantalon> try dxr3
[07:43] <Eruantalon> I don't have the problem here though
[07:43] <ben_m> Can't init new Video Driver dxr3 - using xv.
[07:43] <Eruantalon> hmm
[07:43] <Eruantalon> Well xv is the problem anyways.
[07:44] <xndt> hasn\t anyone here installed kubuntu on a drive with windows on it? PLEASE help
[07:44] <Eruantalon> if you use totem try gstreamer-properties
[07:45] <juano__> xndt: yes, what you need help with ?
[07:45] <xndt> i;ve booted the kubuntu CD, i am now in kde and i just ran the install application from the desktop
[07:46] <xndt> got to partitioning but there is no option called SET MOuntpoint
[07:46] <Eruantalon> ben_m: in gstreamer-properties you can select not to use xv and you can test right in hte window
[07:46] <xndt> or something like that, just LABEL
[07:47] <juano__> xndt: you should have a /root partition
[07:47] <juano__> xndt: you should make a root partition in unused space, dont touch the windows partition
[07:48] <Dr_willis> mountpoint would be called '/' i belive in the installer
[07:48] <Dr_willis> I rarely use the live cd as an installer.
[07:49] <xndt> juano__, i click FREE partition, click create and a dialog pops up with: partition type:ext3, label, size, position(beginning of unalloc space or end of unaloc space), and percent of unallocated space
[07:49] <xndt> that is all
[07:49] <xndt> no option to set it as root
[07:49] <xndt> or mountpoint
[07:49] <xndt> or nothing
[07:49] <xndt> just a LABEL field
[07:49] <juano__> xndt: after making it i believe you then edit the flags and mount
[07:50] <xndt> and if i right click the partition from the list, i have an option called SET ACTIVE
[07:50] <xndt> i've created it
[07:50] <juano__> xndt: whats the partitioner your running ?
[07:51] <xndt> something graphic from kubuntu
[07:51] <xndt> i dont know
[07:51] <juano__> xndt: name ? doesnt say ?
[07:51] <xndt> it was on the desktop under an icon called "install"
[07:51] <xndt> no\
[07:51] <juano__> xndt: yep, thats right, though it would tell the name
[07:52] <juano__> xndt: mm ok, well try editing that partition
[07:52] <juano__> xndt: what does mountpoint say ?
[07:52] <xndt> if i right click on it i have: property, format, delete and set active\
[07:52] <juano__> xndt: does it say "/"
[07:52] <xndt> it doesn't say anywhere about the mountpoint
[07:53] <juano__> xndt: go to properties , in there ?
[07:54] <xndt> if i click property, i get a popup message saying "this is a logical partition. it start at 245325 and end at blalal. it can grow from blabla to blakak. the FS is ext3"
[07:54] <xndt> that's it
[07:54] <bulldog_> anyone use openchrome?
[07:54] <xndt> oh, the popup title of the property says "Qtparted"
[07:54] <xndt> if it's any help
[07:54] <bulldog_> i cant get more than 1024x768 out of it
[07:55] <juano__> xndt: sec
[07:58] <juano__> xndt: any luck ?
[08:01] <xndt> juano__: http://www.hlds.ro/snapshot1.png
[08:01] <xndt> THERE
[08:01] <xndt> is there something wrong with that setup?
[08:01] <xndt> and do you see a mountpoint?
[08:01] <juano__> xndt: ok, sec
[08:03] <juano__> xndt: seems fine, what does set active... prompt ?
[08:04] <xndt> are you sure you want to change the active part? yes/no
[08:04] <xndt> and sets Active from sda1
[08:04] <xndt> under status
[08:04] <xndt> and puts it next to sda7
[08:04] <juano__> xndt: though i am confused... you are using the same extended partition for windows and linux ??
[08:05] <xndt> i don't know?
[08:05] <juano__> xndt: that seems wrong, you shouldnt put the 2 partitions inside the blue
[08:05] <juano__> xndt: at first i imagine you had sda1 and sda5
[08:05] <bulldog_> any gui for wpa_supplicant?
[08:05] <juano__> xndt: sda5 inside the blue lines (extended partition)
[08:06] <xndt> so what do i do? delete sda2?
[08:06] <xndt> and then create tree part all over?
[08:06] <juano__> xndt: no
[08:06] <juano__> xndt: try to leave it as it was before running the installer, paste me that pic
[08:07] <xndt> well it was the same when it was opened by the installer
[08:07] <xndt> except the last two, ext3 and linux-swap
[08:07] <xndt> was just one, type FREE
[08:08] <xndt> but that free part was also in the blue square
[08:08] <juano__> xndt: what is sda5 ? XP ?
[08:08] <carl> hi
[08:08] <xndt> sda5 is D:
[08:09] <xndt> sda1 is C with xp
[08:09] <juano__> xndt: ok
[08:09] <carl> how do I tell a program to start when KDE is up and running?
[08:09] <xndt> D; has some .. well, junk
[08:09] <xndt> i can delete it if necesary\
[08:09] <carl> i.e. aMSN...
[08:09] <juano__> xndt: well something that i think is wrong, is that you should put the linux partition outside that extended blue partition
[08:10] <xndt> jeah but i can't do that unless i delete sda2
[08:10] <juano__> xndt: you can resize it from windows
[08:10] <xndt> an create sda2 ntfs, sda3 ext and sda4 swap
[08:10] <xndt> is it ok?
[08:10] <xndt> but then again, even if i do that, i still won't have a mountpoint option
[08:10] <juano__> xndt: the swap should be inside the extended
[08:11] <juano__> xndt: only the swap
[08:11] <xndt> ok so:
[08:11] <xndt> sda2, ntfs primary
[08:11] <juano__> sda5 is ntfs
[08:12] <juano__> sda2 is extended
[08:12] <setuid_w00t> Hi, I'm considering trying kubuntu.  I'm currently using Debian unstable and I have been for a few years.  Before I start, I'm wondering if there is anything I would probably miss from Debian by using kubuntu?  Can you think of anything that might annoy me about kubuntu?
[08:12] <xndt> if i choose extended, i won't be able to select the partition type: ext, swap etc
[08:13] <xndt> this is so screwed up!
[08:13] <juano__> i would resize the extended partition to make it as almost same size to cover up the sda5
[08:13] <juano__> then i would reboot into live cd and install linux in ext3 type OUTSIDE the extended partition, and the swap partition INSIDE another ext partition
[08:15] <juano__> xndt: but before partitioning with livecd i would make more space on HDD, you should resize that D partition and make it smaller
[08:16] <xndt> what if i delete them all right nop
[08:16] <xndt> now
[08:16] <xndt> except sda1
[08:16] <xndt> and create them again?
[08:17] <juano__> xndt: youll lose all the data except whats in sda1
[08:17] <xndt> doesn't matter
[08:17] <xndt> so
[08:17] <juano__> xndt: you can delete yes the extended partition and remake partitions
[08:17] <xndt> right now i have sda1 ntfs and sda-1 free
[08:18] <juano__> xndt: give me a pic with settings now
[08:18] <xndt> just a sec\
[08:21] <xndt> juano__: http://www.hlds.ro/snapshot2.png
[08:22] <juano__> xndt: ok seems fine
[08:22] <juano__> xndt: can you enter a "/" option to mountpoint now ?
[08:23] <xndt> where?
[08:23] <xndt> there's nothing like that
[08:23] <juano__> xndt: weird, i installed with gparted in gnome
[08:23] <xndt> just active?
[08:23] <juano__> xndt: it said mountpoint : /  , etc
[08:24] <juano__> xndt: set active ...   or properties ???
[08:25] <juano__> xndt: click next maybe it prompts in next window for that
[08:25] <xndt> if i click property, i get a popup message
[08:25] <xndt> and active, sets it active
[08:25] <juano__> xndt: nothing in that message ?
[08:25] <xndt> what's that by the way?
[08:25] <xndt> nope
[08:25] <juano__> xndt: ok, try clicking next and tell me what you get
[08:26] <juano__> xndt: active partition is a partition which is capable of booting that has an OS
[08:26] <juano__> xndt: you can only have 1 active partition
[08:27] <xndt> and is it ok if windows is the active?
[08:27] <xndt> ok, i now got to the prepare mount points step :)
[08:28] <juano__> xndt: lol
[08:28] <juano__> xndt: thats what we were lookin for
[08:28] <xndt> sda1 is /media/sda1 sda3 is / and sda4 is swap\
[08:28] <juano__> xndt: perfect
[08:29] <juano__> xndt: whats sda2 too ?
[08:29] <juano__> xndt: /media/sda2 ?
[08:29] <juano__> xndt: you can configure it later though
[08:29] <xndt> sda2 is in the list but it's unformated
[08:29] <xndt> yeah that's what i left it
[08:29] <juano__> xndt: ahh right cause you deleted it
[08:29] <juano__> xndt: and your making it again
[08:30] <juano__> well everything seems fine then
[08:30] <juano__> next -->
[08:30] <xndt> nope
[08:30] <xndt> Install :D
[08:31] <xndt> when it's done, i'll have to reboot and if i don't come back in 5 mins, something went wrong :D
[08:32] <juano__> xndt: ok :-) good luck
[08:35] <nagyv> !freedroidrpg
[08:35] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[08:35] <jmichaelx> !compiz
[08:35] <ubotwo> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:39] <rEvolution27> how do i check how much free space is left on a partition?
[08:40] <phillip> rEvolution27: df
[08:42] <foo> What's the default keyboard shortcuts for switching desktops?
[08:43] <rEvolution27> thanks... are there any disk clean up and disk defrag utilities
[08:43] <SeanTater> rEvolution27: they are not needed
[08:43] <rEvolution27> really
[08:43] <SeanTater> rEvolution27: at least not for linux file systems
[08:44] <rEvolution27> someone told me there was a clean up that removed left over files from software installs
[08:44] <rEvolution27> guess you're right though
[08:44] <SeanTater> rEvolution27: that's apt, not the disk
[08:45] <SeanTater> rEvolution27: the file system does not need to be defragged,  but you can save a small amount of space by removing unneeded configuration files.
[08:45] <rEvolution27> ok
[08:46] <SeanTater> rEvolution27: If you have a large hard disk, the saved space is usually neglegible
[08:46] <rEvolution27> thanks
[08:46] <SeanTater> rEvolution27: yw
[08:47] <rEvolution27> i can't believe how much i've installed and how little space has been used
[08:47] <Dr_willis> you can save a large amount of space by removing those extra video files.. you dont want others to know about. :)
[08:47] <rEvolution27> lol
[08:47] <rEvolution27> that's on my windows partition ;)
[08:48] <juano__> rEvolution27: yea , its funny that you can have so much on linux and use so little lol
[08:48] <rEvolution27> yeh
[08:48] <juano__> rEvolution27: never happens on windows
[08:48] <lerva> just installed kubuntu today... first time ever using linux. so some very newie questions coming... I want to install firefox, so how can I do it?
[08:48] <rEvolution27> anybody know a good vidoe screen capture program?
[08:48] <nagyv> lerva: have you ever used the console?
[08:48] <SeanTater> lerva: Try opening adept
[08:48] <lerva> with add/remove programs I can't do it...
[08:49] <lerva> well.. i have used unix on uni and so on
[08:49] <rEvolution27> adept worked for me
[08:49] <nagyv> lerva: what error message do you get?
[08:49] <aib> are some update servers down? "0% [Waiting for headers] " is all I get
[08:49] <SeanTater> lerva: adept should be in the system menu.. it has a list of programs you can install, choose to install firefox and press apply changes
[08:49] <juano__> lerva: alt + F2 , konsole, sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[08:50] <lerva> I can't select programs from adept. just gray unselectable boxes. I have put the root user password
[08:50] <SeanTater> juano__: shouldn't a newbie at least /start/ with the GUI?
[08:50] <SeanTater> nvm, gtg
[08:50] <aib> since I can't install `nmap', how can I determine what ports are open?
[08:51] <nagyv> lerva: try juano__'s advice
[08:52] <juano__> SeanTater: well , thats a good question, but if he installed linux we should introduce him to the free software environment which inculdes a terminal, i think hes had enough GUI with windows
[08:52] <juano__> SeanTater: hehe... well for first starters its ok
[08:53] <juano__> SeanTater: but he shouls learn terminal though, dont forget kubuntu / ubuntu is linux :-)
[08:53] <lerva> juano_: It says (In Finnish, I translated): Packet mozilla-firefox not available, but other packets is refering to that. This could meen that packet is missing, is old or available from some other source. E: Packet mozilla-firefox has no installable selection.
[08:54] <juano__> lerva: sudo apt-get install firefox
[08:54] <draik> Where does Kopete save the history logs?
[08:54] <lerva> juano_ same problem...
[08:55] <draik> lerva: what is your problem?
[08:55] <lerva> I can't install any programs
[08:55] <juano__> lerva: mm, repos problem maybe, try kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list and pastebin that please
[08:55] <juano__> !pastebin | lerva
[08:55] <ubotwo> lerva: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:56] <draik> What do you mean by "can't install"
[08:56] <draik> it won't get the repos, do you get a specific error... ?
[08:57] <lerva> juano_ : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4011/
[08:57] <frojnd> does anyone know how to get inverted color in krita
[08:57] <juano__> lerva: ok just a sec
[08:58] <lerva> draik: gray boxes (unselectable) if I try through "Add/Remove Programs" and it didn't work through konsole either.
[08:58] <frojnd> nevermind :)
[08:58] <lerva> juano, np, thanks
[08:58] <draik> lerva: Try one at a time.
[08:58] <draik> lerva: I prefer konsole/Yakuake just because I love CLI
[08:58] <juano__> lerva: ok try this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4012/
[08:59] <juano__> lerva: replace the contents of that file with this one, then run sudo apt-get update
[08:59] <draik> lerva: check your source.list for hashes (#)
[08:59] <draik> you may have hash'd your repo
[08:59] <juano__> draik: yeah, i uncommented the repos for him
[09:00] <draik> Does anybody here know where to find the history file/list from Kopete chats?
[09:00] <draik> Thank you juano__
[09:00] <ich> moin
[09:00] <ich> god bye
[09:00] <lerva> juano and draik, ok it started updating
[09:00] <nagyv> !ubuntuguide.org
[09:00] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[09:00] <lerva> now ready
[09:00] <draik> lerva: Then that was your issue, hash'd repos
[09:00] <apokryphos> draik: ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete/
[09:01] <draik> Thank you apokryphos
[09:01] <lerva> oh, I no idea what that means, but now everything works! thanks guys!
[09:01] <nagyv> lerva: for similar small "tricks" you can look at ubuntuguide.org, they have plenty of useful info what/how to install.
[09:01] <nagyv> lerva: and good luck with you new kubuntu! :)
[09:02] <lerva> yeah. I like this very much
[09:02] <nagyv> !repositories
[09:02] <ubotwo> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[09:02] <juano__> lerva: good, sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox should work now
[09:02] <nagyv> !repositories | lerva
[09:02] <ubotwo> lerva: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[09:03] <lerva> only prob is that kubuntu install broke my windows xp home.. I tried to put they side by side... but I don't mind that much... I probably will format that other section too for linux
[09:04] <ubuntu_> hay all i need some serious help
[09:04] <ubuntu_> Some how or another my linux partition become, whats the word.. DELETED!
[09:04] <ubuntu_> I need a program, that i can use to recover data, any ideas?
[09:06] <draik> ubuntu_: graverobber?
[09:07] <ubuntu_> is that in the repos? any chance
[09:09] <will> what's the command to format a disk in fat32?
[09:09] <eMish_> Hello.  In sources.list, is 'deb URL edgy main restricted\ndeb URL edgy main universe' same as 'deb URL edgy main restricted universe' ?
[09:09] <eMish_> will: maybe mformat
[09:09] <eMish_> will: it's mkfs.vfat
[09:10] <will> I'm a newbie.  so do I just type mkfs.vfat into the command line?  do I need to assign the drive (which is at /media/sda5).  it's an external usb drive btw
[09:11] <rEvolution27> ummm guys my taskbar just dissapeared
[09:12] <rEvolution27> oh nvm it came back... how weird
[09:15] <makuseru> i want a freedom toaster
[09:15] <james_xxx> !compiz
[09:15] <ubotwo> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:16] <will> !fat32
[09:16] <ubotwo> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[09:17] <will> !partition
[09:17] <ubotwo> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[09:17] <will> !gParted
[09:17] <ubotwo> gparted is gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "sudo apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[09:18] <will> !Qtparted
[09:18] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[09:18] <will> !QTParted
[09:18] <rEvolution27> this is funny.... the reason my taskbar was dissapearing is that when i was changing the number of desktops in beryl i accidentally slided to something like 2000... my both my cpu's were at 100%
[09:27] <will> when you request something at the command prompt that produces an output that is longer than the screen, what is the command to make it pause before scrolling
[09:28] <draik> How do you make k3b burn hidden files?
[09:29] <draik> I'm trying to do a full backup of what is in /home/(user)/ and it only did the visible files, not hidden
[09:29] <rEvolution27> help! i have 56 desktops and my mouse is frozen.. how do i get rid of them?
[09:30] <angasule> rEvolution27: kill X?
[09:30] <willys_fueguino> Is it possible to make the right click open the k menu?? where??
[09:31] <rEvolution27> umm but when i restart x won't i have all those desktops?
[09:31] <draik> is Keep any good?
[09:31] <draik> !backup
[09:31] <ubotwo> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[09:31] <esaym> I am looking for some info on fstab.  I know the last  option in each fstab line is for the "fsck pass" and it can have a value of 0, 1, or 2
[09:32] <esaym> I can't get any info as to what to use though
[09:32] <esaym> I understand a value of 0 means the the drive will never get checked
[09:32] <willys_fueguino> My taskbar has vanished... I restarted X and it stil disappeared
[09:32] <sampan> willys_fueguino  do you want a right-click on the desktop to bring up the kmenu?  if so, system settings (or kcontrol) --> desktop --> behavior and then you can set your left/right/middle mouse clicks to whatever you like
[09:32] <esaym> and I read that you want your root drive to have a value of 1 and the other partitions a value of 2
[09:33] <esaym> Can anyone explain these more to me though
[09:33] <esaym> I am wanting to make it so when fsck runs on one partition that it runs on them all
[09:33] <Dr_willis> what it 'should' do is fsck the drives that are seperate drives  at the same time.
[09:34] <esaym> I have read that you can do that but nothing explains how
[09:34] <Dr_willis> fscking hda1 and hda2 at the same time - is not a good idea
[09:34] <esaym> hmm
[09:34] <Dr_willis> fscking hda1 and hdb1 at same time - is doable.. and i THINK how it works by default
[09:34] <esaym> well that makes since
[09:34] <ubuntu__> anyone have ideas for data recovery programs?
[09:34] <Dr_willis> of course if you properly shut down and so forth - you shoudl rarely hgave to fsck.
[09:34] <willys_fueguino> sampan: ufff... that shows that I'm a total n00b with kde....
[09:35] <esaym> so just keep the values of root as 1 and the other drives and partitions as 2?
[09:35] <sampan> willys_fueguino   no worries :)  lots of settings and i get lost in them too sometimes :D
[09:35] <sredna> hi
[09:35] <willys_fueguino> anyway.. it's a temporary solutuiin 'cause I've lost my panel
[09:35] <sredna> would something terrible happen if i delete /usr/sbin/apt-index-watcher ?
[09:36] <sredna> it's making my computer unusable
[09:36] <sampan> i think i spent 2 hours looking for how to turn off the bouncy icons 2 weeks ago :/
[09:39] <schwarzh> testzeile
[09:40] <schwarzh> guten abend
[09:40] <will> anyone know how to pause outputs at the command prompt that take up more than a screen can take
[09:41] <firecrotch> will: just stick " | less" on the end of your command, like this: ls /home/will | less
[09:51] <sredna> why it /usr/sbin/apt-index-watcher running every few seconds, taking up as much CPU as it can?
[09:51] <sredna> what will happen if i delete it?
[09:52] <sredna> or is there a way i can prevent it from running except on sundays?
[09:52] <Dr_willis> !find apt-index
[09:52] <ubotu> Found: apt-index-watcher
[09:52] <Dr_willis> !info apt-index-watcher
[09:52] <ubotu> apt-index-watcher: Updater for apt-front indexes. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.9ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 698 kB, installed size 1972 kB
[09:52] <Dr_willis> Optional.. Hmm...
[09:55] <sredna> i renamed it to ANNOYING, and the world is still standing, Dr_willis
[09:55] <agus> algun espaol?
[09:55] <Skrot> !es
[09:55] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:55] <zorglu_> one have to fix the linux /dev/random :)
[09:56] <zorglu_> this stuff is so slow.
[09:56] <zorglu_> or i have to use openssl, to use /dev/urandom :)
[09:57] <zorglu_> or maybe the user will accept to wait for 20min to have his apps running ? :)))))))0
[09:57] <eguzkia> hello someone know how to install nvidia glx?
[09:57] <zorglu_> !nvidia| eguzkia
[09:57] <ubotu> eguzkia: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:57] <zorglu_> eguzkia: have you looked at this ?
[09:58] <d0dge> How can I mount .img file in linux?
[09:58] <Minataku> d0dge: mount -o loop filename.img /mount/point
[09:58] <zorglu_> hmm bchunk i thing
[09:59] <Minataku> Providing the default Kubuntu provides loopback support
[09:59] <zorglu_> oh
[09:59] <zorglu_> wow
[09:59] <zorglu_> what is this .img format ?
[09:59] <Minataku> Raw disk image
[09:59] <zorglu_> go /dev/random, i am with you
[09:59] <d0dge> Minataku: "you must specify the filesystem type"
[09:59] <zorglu_> Minataku: sure but what produce it
[09:59] <Minataku> zorglu_: If it came from a Linux system probably "dd"
[10:00] <zorglu_> hue ???
[10:00] <Minataku> d0dge: Type "file filename.img"
[10:00] <Minataku> If that fails, get this package:
[10:00] <Minataku> !disktype
[10:00] <ubotu> disktype: detection of content format of a disk or disk image. In component universe, is optional. Version 9-1 (edgy), package size 37 kB, installed size 136 kB
[10:00] <zorglu_> so there is a guy who did a dd and put .img ? :)
[10:00] <Minataku> Then run that against it
[10:00] <zorglu_> a smart one :)
[10:00] <Minataku> zorglu_: I do it all the time
[10:00] <zorglu_> Minataku: well you should put .ext2 or .iso or etc...
[10:00] <Minataku> Same with mounting and writing, raw disk images are awesome
[10:01] <Minataku> zorglu_: Negative
[10:01] <zorglu_> well we disagree :)
[10:01] <Minataku> Extensions are for puny humans
[10:01] <zorglu_> i see :)
[10:01] <Minataku> Not for file type identification :3
[10:01] <zorglu_> well filename are made to identify the file content :)
[10:01] <Minataku> disktype is a great util
[10:01] <zorglu_> it is my weird belief :)
[10:02] <Minataku> I recommend that far above putting loads of metadata into the filename
[10:02] <zorglu_> that and the fact that /dev/random should be fixed as soon as possible :)
[10:02] <zorglu_> lets fire tso
[10:02] <Minataku> zorglu_: /dev/random is incapable of breaking
[10:02] <Dr_willis> BeOs had so much meta-data that often the metadata was larger then the actual file. :)
[10:02] <Minataku> Perhaps it's empty?
[10:02] <zorglu_> Minataku: believe me it is :)
[10:02] <zorglu_> Minataku: since feb06 or so
[10:03] <Minataku> Without a TRNG then /dev/random is filled with stray random things from random places
[10:03] <rEvolution27> sigh.. help me... beryl says i have one desktop, configure desktop says i have one desktop but the taskbar is displaying 32
[10:03] <Minataku> If you want a constant supply but with slightly less random there's always /dev/urandom
[10:03] <Minataku> Since /dev/random is a trickle-filled entropy pool
[10:04] <zorglu_> nope because i rely on gnutls/gcrypt and those are not flexible enougth to use /dev/urandom :)
[10:04] <Minataku> Then go out and buy a TRNG
[10:04] <zorglu_> sure :)
[10:04] <jbruckman> hey can anyone help me mount my USB mp3 player? I'm having some difficulties....
[10:04] <Minataku> They sell RNG generators
[10:04] <Minataku> I'm not joking
[10:04] <Minataku> s/generators//
[10:04] <zorglu_> yep and how does this fix my problem ? :)
[10:05] <jbruckman> i've tried mount -t vfat <device> <location> but it gives me an error
[10:05] <jmichaelx> a while ago , i set up beryl to run using xgl in kubuntu with an nvidia graphics card..... i then decided to switch to aiglx, and i followed the instructions in the ubuntu docs.... now X will not start, would anyone have a suggestion?
[10:05] <Minataku> zorglu_: It ensures that /dev/random is constantly full
[10:05] <Minataku> The random psuedodevice is not broken, it's a trickle-filled entropy pool
[10:05] <zorglu_> Minataku: well lets suppose they dont break it up to this point, i cant ask everybody using my code to buy this :)
[10:05] <Minataku> As such, heavy use of it will empty it
[10:06] <zorglu_> Minataku: the error is in 'heavy' :) just a 768bit rsa key gen take more than 10min
[10:06] <zorglu_> and ticking
[10:06] <Minataku> zorglu_: Then provide the option to use the psuedorandom generator rather than the random pool
[10:06] <zorglu_> hhe you are not listening :)
[10:06] <zorglu_> ohhhhhhh it did it :)
[10:07] <zorglu_> so at least 12min to generate a single 768bit rsa key :) sure it is not broken :)
[10:07] <zorglu_> jbruckman: shoot
[10:08] <kyo> Hello everybody
[10:08] <jbruckman> zorglu_: okay, so I have tried the following,a nd i know that the device is sde. sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sde /media/usb
[10:08] <jbruckman> zorglu_: however, i get a bad superblock error, even though i know it's a vfat drive
[10:08] <Dr_willis> i bet its NOT /dev/sde
[10:08] <Dr_willis> perhaps /dev/sde1
[10:09] <fernando__> I have a notebook with a AMD64 +4000 that under windows, if I compile the processor run full power but under kubuntu, as example I compile the wxwidgets library and its need so long, and its clear that the processor do not run full power, because even I can hear the fun.. what is wrong??
[10:09] <jbruckman> no.
[10:09] <Dr_willis> sudo fdisk -l /dev/sde
[10:09] <Dr_willis> and see.
[10:09] <jbruckman> it's sde, i tried sde1, nothing happens.
[10:09] <Minataku> zorglu_: You're not listening. Type this in a terminal and read: "man 4 random"
[10:09] <zorglu_> Minataku: :))))))))
[10:09] <Minataku> You're not listening to me explain how the random device works
[10:09] <Minataku> So please read for yourself
[10:09] <Dr_willis> sudo fdisk -l - look at all the partitions. also plug/unplug/plug and check dmesg output for info on what its seen as.
[10:09] <kyo> WHO SPEAK FRENCH HERE?
[10:09] <Dr_willis> !fr
[10:09] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:09] <zorglu_> Minataku: well on the other hand i already know very well how it work :)
[10:09] <Dr_willis> ubotu,  does. :)
[10:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about does. :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:10] <jbruckman> dmesg | tail shows that it is seen as sde.
[10:10] <zorglu_> kenws: and caps are not needed
[10:10] <Minataku> zorglu_: Then you'd know that it's not broken at all
[10:10] <jbruckman> there's no sde1 partition.
[10:10] <Minataku> It's merely rather slow due to the way it works to provide true random data
[10:10] <jbruckman> got it.
[10:10] <zorglu_> Minataku: well we disagree :) us discussing the matter wont change it
[10:10] <Dr_willis> jbruckman,  the only thing ive ever seen show up as a /dev/sde or so forth was cdrom drives..
[10:10] <jbruckman> okay, so it was a hardware thing.
[10:11] <Dr_willis> :)
[10:11] <fernando__>  I have a notebook with a AMD64 +4000 that under windows, if I compile the processor run full power but under kubuntu, as example I compile the wxwidgets library and its need so long, and its clear that the processor do not run full power, because even I can hear the fun.. what is wrong??
[10:11] <jbruckman> anywho. thanks.
[10:11] <Minataku> zorglu_: I think it's safe to say you won't get the assistance you want without a hardware TRNG
[10:11] <elyon225> Hey, guys.  Where is the K-menu information stored? I'm trying to sync my menu with the other users on the system, but I can't find the config file for the menus.
[10:12] <Dr_willis> elyon225,  its generated from all the .desktop entrys on the system and somewhere in the users .kde dir also i belive
[10:12] <Minataku> Since you don't/refuse to understand that the random device works in a specific way that is indeed slow to provide properly random data
[10:12] <elyon225> Dr_willis: Well, I've looked in /.kde/ but I couldn't find anything.
[10:12] <Minataku> The fix to your problem is either obtain a hardware TRNG or use the psuedorandom device
[10:13] <jmichaelx> is it possible to access an external HD from the command line?
[10:13] <Minataku> Or, alternately, simply wait for the device to refill the pool or allow the process to take place during key generations
[10:14] <jmichaelx> my external HD is listed as 'WD USB 2' under /media, but i cannot access any directories on that drive. would anyone know why?
[10:14] <jmichaelx> via the command line, i mean
[10:15] <Minataku> And there's no disagreeing with this, if you say you know how the random device works you would know this, "disagreeing" just means you don't care and it should magically work the way you say it should otherwise it's broken
[10:16] <jmichaelx> Minataku: you seem to know a lot.... how would i access dir's on an external usb HD using the command line?
[10:16] <Minataku> jmichaelx: Is the external HDD mounted?
[10:17] <jmichaelx> Minataku: good question
[10:17] <Minataku> It could be that it made the directory in /media however failed to actually mount the drive
[10:18] <jmichaelx> would that be 'sudo mount /media/WD USB 2'?
[10:18] <jmichaelx> oh no
[10:18] <Minataku> It actually made the directory with spaces in it?
[10:18] <jmichaelx> well, i wondered if that was the problem, but yes
[10:18] <Minataku> Well
[10:18] <Minataku> Try this
[10:19] <Minataku> "sudo mount /dev/whateverthedriveis /media/WD\ USB\ 2
[10:19] <Minataku> Those \s are important
[10:19] <jmichaelx> how do i know what to type for 'whateverthedriveis'?
[10:19] <Minataku> jmichaelx: Another good question
[10:20] <Minataku> Unplug it, wait 10s, plug it back in, wait 10s then type "dmesg | tail" and pastebin it
[10:20] <jmichaelx> it isn't worth it
[10:21] <Minataku> Well, if that's too hard to do
[10:21] <jmichaelx> i just wanted to backup my /home as i am going to have to reinstall
[10:21] <Minataku> Look in /dev for entries starting with "sd"
[10:21] <Minataku> But if there are several then we'll have to pinpoint
[10:22] <jmichaelx> i looked, but is there a way to scan through the output?
[10:22] <Dr_willis> the whole automountign systems are geting smarter and dumber at th same times!
[10:22] <Minataku> jmichaelx: Well, type dmesg | less and look for it talking about the HDD
[10:23] <Minataku> It should be there somewhere after all the confusing crap at the top, so start at the bottom and work upwards
[10:23] <Minataku> Unless it was plugged in when you booted, in which case start at the top and work downwards
[10:24] <Minataku> zorglu_: Sorry for getting short with you, BTW
[10:24] <jmichaelx> Minataku: it is quite ok...
[10:24] <jmichaelx> oops
[10:24] <jmichaelx> i thought you meant me
[10:25] <Minataku> jmichaelx: No, I haven't gotten angry at you... yet
[10:25] <Minataku> XD
[10:25] <jmichaelx> question.... should an SMP kernel be used with a non-SMP motherboard?
[10:25] <Minataku> It's perfectly fine
[10:25] <Minataku> It'll see that there's only one CPU and switch to UP mode
[10:25] <jmichaelx> ok, i was trying to ge beryl working, and i wound up with a broken X
[10:25] <jmichaelx> now i'm screwed
[10:25] <Minataku> That's why default/LiveCD kernels are all SMP by default
[10:26] <jmichaelx> i see
[10:26] <Minataku> jmichaelx: Can always uninstall both then reinstall
[10:26] <jmichaelx> unstall what?
[10:26] <Minataku> Beryl and X11
[10:27] <jmichaelx> ok.... i will uninstall beryl.... but i don't think that is what did it.... i had beryl working with XGL, but decided to switch to AIGLX, and that is where the trouble began
[10:28] <Minataku> Well, undo what you did then
[10:28] <Minataku> Work backwards, and leave Beryl for now
[10:28] <jmichaelx> when you follow the docs, they have you add a repo, and install newer drivers... it also updates the kernel, and so on....
[10:28] <Minataku> Hm
[10:28] <jmichaelx> well, i would undo it all, but i don't know how to get back to the kernel i had to start out with (if that might be the problem)
[10:28] <fernando__>  I have a notebook with a AMD64 +4000 that under windows, if I compile the processor run full power but under kubuntu, as example I compile the wxwidgets library and its need so long, and its clear that the processor do not run full power, because even I can hear the fun.. what is wrong??
[10:29] <Minataku> It's more than likely still there
[10:29] <jmichaelx> Minataku: i think i'm screwed.....
[10:30] <Minataku> jmichaelx: When you boot, the old kernel probably still has an entry, if Kubuntu deletes the old kernel or even it's entry when you update then that's a really, really stupid thing they're doing
[10:30] <Minataku> fernando__: I'm sorry, but I can't understand your question
[10:31] <jmichaelx> i know a little about linux and usually have no problems.... i am sure there is a way to fix all of them, but i don't know how lol
[10:31] <jmichaelx> if i had just stayed with XGL , i would be fine
[10:32] <jmichaelx> there is probably no chance that just re-installing XGL would help me, is there?
[10:33] <Minataku> It could
[10:33] <fernando__> minataku: my processor am64 runs full power if is needed under windows
[10:33] <Minataku> jmichaelx: Worth a shot, uninstall AIGLX and reinstall XGL
[10:33] <fernando__> minataku: but in kubuntu it never runs full power
[10:33] <Minataku> Kinda follow the docs backwards if you changed any conf files
[10:33] <Minataku> fernando__: Ah, I see now, sorry about that
[10:34] <Minataku> That's bizarre, are you positive it's running slower in Linux?
[10:34] <fernando__> minataku: yes, actually I can even hear the fun
[10:35] <Minataku> fernando__: I'm not sure I know how to help with that, sorry >.<
[10:36] <fernando__> minataku thanks any way..
[10:37] <juano__> fernando__: installed with x86_64 ?
[10:38] <fernando__> juano: what do you mean?
[10:39] <fernando__> juano: I have install kubuntu for amd64 if is that what you mean..
[10:39] <juano__> fernando__: yes
[10:39] <juano__> fernando__: with the x86_64 isos
[10:40] <jmichaelx> Minataku: i think the external drive is 'sda'
[10:40] <jmichaelx> i tried to mount it, but it says i need to specify the filesystem
[10:40] <fernando__> juano: exist only 3 version of kubuntu.. and I have the compatible with amd64
[10:40] <Minataku> What the... does kubuntu disable mount from automatically checking what the filesystem is?!
[10:41] <Minataku> jmichaelx: Try sda1 instead
[10:41] <jmichaelx> ok
[10:41] <jmichaelx> ty
[10:41] <Minataku> That should correspond to the first partition
[10:41] <fernando__> juano: do you know any tools to see the current velocity of my processor?
[10:43] <elyon225> How would I go about converting a .daa to .iso?
[10:43] <Minataku> elyon225: Depends... what's .daa?
[10:43] <jenda> Quiz in #ubuntu-trivia in a few minutes! Prize for winner: Ubuntu (K/X/Edu) stickers!
[10:43] <jenda> :)
[10:43] <elyon225> Minataku: It's an image format (nero can read it)
[10:44] <Minataku> elyon225: Well, you'd probably need some bizarre converter that doesn't exist
[10:44] <Minataku> Or get a friend with Nero to convert it
[10:44] <elyon225> hmm
[10:44] <Minataku> I've never heard of .daa
[10:44] <Minataku> Run file on it
[10:44] <elyon225> .daa is really popular in Windows.
[10:44] <Minataku> file -zrk whatever.daa
[10:44] <Minataku> Tell me what it spits out
[10:45] <elyon225> Minataku: Just "data"
[10:45] <Minataku> elyon225: Damn, then it's some stupid-ass proprietary format
[10:46] <elyon225> daa stands for Direct Access Archive, by the way.
[10:46] <Minataku> Sounds like crap
[10:46] <Minataku> lol
[10:46] <elyon225> hmm... apparently PowerISO can read it (the Windows version can, anyway). Isn't there a Linux version too?
[10:47] <Dr_willis> Not that ive seen
[10:47] <Minataku> Look for info on it
[10:47] <elyon225> yep... found it :)
[10:47] <Minataku> Google is your friend, see if DAA is just some stupid "container"
[10:47] <Minataku> Kinda like how Nero images are just ISO with crap injected every so often
[10:48] <elyon225> oh yeah... the little .nrg files ;)_
[10:50] <elyon225> Minataku: Well, poweriso works well :)
[10:50] <Dr_willis> !find poweriso
[10:50] <Minataku> I'd rather slap the ass who made it DAA in the first place
[10:50] <Dr_willis> !find kiso
[10:50] <ubotu> Package/file poweriso does not exist in edgy
[10:50] <ubotu> Found: mkisofs, kiso
[10:50] <elyon225> Kind of like reinventing the wheel... over and over and over again.
[10:50] <zorglu_> q. i have a new user, and i would like to put it in the 'sudoers', when i try sudo with this user i got the message "is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported."
[10:50] <elyon225> .ISO is a perfect format...leave it alone.
[10:51] <Minataku> Indeed
[10:51] <Minataku> Use something everyone is capable of operating with
[10:51] <Minataku> Not retarded proprietary formats
[10:51] <Minataku> You'd think warez groups would honor that
[10:51] <Minataku> What the hell do they need copy protection for, right? XD
[10:52] <Dr_willis> They are too busy putting 5k zips into rars, then password protecting them
[10:52] <Dr_willis> and then splitting the rars
[10:52] <Minataku> Nah, I've never had a pirate release that was passworded
[10:52] <Minataku> Split like all hell, yes
[10:53] <Minataku> Usually because they were originally released on usenet
[10:53] <Dr_willis> i see the lame stuff on torrents all the time.
[10:53] <Minataku> Or they're just split to be low-bandwith friendly
[10:53] <elyon225> Okay, so now how do I extract an iso?  I thought ark could do it, but I was wrong.
[10:53] <Dr_willis> and the various game-copy/nocd sites always got things packed oddly.
[10:53] <Dr_willis> you can MOUNT an .iso
[10:53] <Minataku> elyon225: You can mount it
[10:53] <Dr_willis> !iso
[10:53] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[10:53] <MrMagic> zorglu_: add the user to the admin group
[10:53] <elyon225> oh yeah.... thanks guys.
[10:53] <zorglu_> sudo adduser myfavoriteuser admin <- was my andwer :)
[10:54] <Minataku> Hm
[10:54] <Minataku> !is
[10:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:54] <zorglu_> MrMagic: yep meanwhile i did it :)
[10:54] <elyon225> man, I love Linux lol
[10:54] <MrMagic> :=)
[10:55] <zorglu_> we need fancy 3d coders :)
[10:55] <zorglu_> to add eyes candy to the death :)
[10:55] <Minataku> ...
[10:55] <Dr_willis> Death by Eye candy!
[10:55] <Minataku> That's the last thing anyone needs
[10:55] <zorglu_> see :)
[10:56] <zorglu_> that's the issue, people doesnt understand what a 'user' likes :)
[10:56] <Minataku> Dr_willis: I look one look at a Vista screenshot and my eye teeth fell out
[10:56] <Minataku> *rimshot*
[10:56] <zorglu_> and believe me a 'user' LOVE 3d eyecandy
[10:56] <zorglu_> window knows that, but linux doesnt get it :)
[10:56] <Minataku> zorglu_: I'm a 'user' and I ??????? _HATE_ bullplop eyecandy garbage
[10:56] <zorglu_> nope
[10:56] <zorglu_> you are a geek
[10:56] <MrMagic> same here :)
[10:56] <zorglu_> likely an admin
[10:57] <Minataku> ... Point.
[10:57] <Minataku> lol
[10:57] <Minataku> I'm an engineer(ing student)
[10:57] <Minataku> Function over form
[10:57] <Minataku> Very few exceptions
[10:57] <zorglu_> in computer ?
[10:58] <zorglu_> or math or physic
[10:58] <Little_Eagle> If Linux doesn't do eye candy why are there projects like compiz and beryl?
[10:58] <HymnToLife> zorglu_, you sense of nuance thrills me...
[10:58] <Minataku> zorglu_: Computer Engineering Technology is my major
[10:58] <Dr_willis> Little_Eagle,  and dont forget that Mettis  'thing' as well.
[10:58] <VincentMX> does AmaroK have an equalizer?
[10:58] <Dr_willis> Mettis actually had some useable eyecandy
[10:58] <zorglu_> Minataku: see not  a 'user' :)
[10:58] <zorglu_> Little_Eagle: yep beryl is definitly the good direction
[10:59] <whoopydoodie> hello everyone
[10:59] <whoopydoodie> how do I change my resolution (intel 945GM)
[10:59] <zorglu_> oh lets me find a video of what linux need :)
[10:59] <Minataku> Too bad it looks like crap and cooks up graphics cards like they were delicious strips of bacon
[10:59] <Little_Eagle> VincentMX: Yes.  It does.
[10:59] <Minataku> Mmmm... bacon
[10:59] <VincentMX> Little_Eagle: where?
[10:59] <HymnToLife> zorglu_, do you seriously think the millions of people in the world who use a computer like the very same thing ?
[10:59] <Dr_willis> Baccony!
[10:59] <elyon225> Hmm... is there a limit to how many files that can be shown when mounting an ISO?  Because I'm missing about a third of the ISO
[10:59] <ubuntu> Hi xorix
[10:59] <HymnToLife> you're laughable
[10:59] <Dr_willis> elyon225,  not that i am aware of.
[10:59] <VincentMX> nm found it
[10:59] <whoopydoodie> anyone?
[10:59] <Dr_willis> elyon225,  it should work like any other filesystem.
[10:59] <zorglu_> HymnToLife: well me and all marketing study :)
[11:00] <ooglaboogla> i just installed kubuntu on my laptop and the networkmanager shows no connection, i'm however talking to you now from that connection
[11:00] <Minataku> elyon225: The only time limits come into play is when you're making an ISO with mkisofs
[11:00] <ooglaboogla> neat trick eh
[11:00] <elyon225> Dr_willis: That what I would think too.
[11:00] <Minataku> Which is a pain in the ass
[11:00] <ooglaboogla> any ideas on what to check
[11:00] <Minataku> ooglaboogla: Nothing
[11:00] <Minataku> It's working
[11:00] <Minataku> Don't touch it :3
[11:00] <ooglaboogla> that 'not connected' is annoying can i remove knetwork manager
[11:00] <elyon225> Dr_willis: Unless of course using PowerISO to convert the file corrupted it somehow... but I doubt that.
[11:00] <Minataku> Sure, just kill it
[11:00] <zorglu_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0ODskdEPnQ&mode=related&search= <- there!!!! look at that!!! and try to convince kde and/or gnome to go in this direction !!!
[11:00] <Little_Eagle> VincentMX: Tools -> Equilizer
[11:01] <Dr_willis> ooglaboogla,  you are using a wireless network?
[11:01] <ooglaboogla> Dr_willis: yes
[11:01] <zorglu_> HymnToLife: laugth at me while looking at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0ODskdEPnQ&mode=related&search=
[11:01] <ooglaboogla> right after i rebooted i could click on the icon and see the available networks. now nothing shows up
[11:01] <zorglu_> this stuff is closesource btw :)
[11:01] <h3sp4wn> zorglu_: Is those images of your application ?
[11:02] <zorglu_> h3sp4wn: nope :)
[11:02] <Dr_willis> Bumptop - just seesm soooooooooooooo Unuseable...
[11:02] <ooglaboogla> also another matter. is it safe to blacklist ipv6
[11:02] <Dr_willis> more like a game..  then a way to manage files.
[11:02] <h3sp4wn> zorglu_: I don't have flash so
[11:02] <zorglu_> h3sp4wn: i whish tho :) i dont do guy
[11:02] <Minataku> ooglaboogla: Why?
[11:02] <ooglaboogla> don't need it and it slows my connection way down
[11:03] <zorglu_> Dr_willis: well show that to your mother or your sister or anybody which is not a computer personn, then show her linux...
[11:03] <h3sp4wn> ooglaboogla: Maybe you want the !ipv6 factoid
[11:03] <zorglu_> Dr_willis: then come back :)
[11:03] <Dr_willis> They will think its a game.
[11:03] <Minataku> !ipv6
[11:03] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[11:03] <Minataku> lol
[11:03] <zorglu_> Dr_willis: well do it :)))))
[11:03] <Dr_willis> so ya got to sort the things in different piles? thats it?
[11:03] <Dr_willis> :)
[11:03] <h3sp4wn> nothing about how to use it (stupid as that may be)
[11:03] <zorglu_> Dr_willis: that's it :)
[11:04] <Dr_willis> of course bumptop - seems ideally suited for the tornado layout of the windows filesystem.
[11:04] <zorglu_> Dr_willis: seriously show that to your mother/sister etc... and ask them if they find it better :)
[11:04] <Little_Eagle> zorglu_: Now that's useless stuff...
[11:04] <Dr_willis> windows rants about you deleting a special dir.. but ya can accidently move and it wont mind..
[11:04] <crazy_penguin> 'night all
[11:05] <zorglu_> Little_Eagle: same as Dr_willis, show that to your mother and ask her opinion
[11:05] <Dr_willis> go test out that Mandrive-Mettis Live cd - it has some 'eyecandy' thats actually useable..
[11:05] <Minataku> Windows is like "Don't delete that!" then does it anyway
[11:05] <Dr_willis> zorglu_,  they will say it looks like some silly game.
[11:05] <zorglu_> Dr_willis: dont presume :)
[11:05] <Dr_willis> Reminds me of that "Black and White" game.
[11:05] <Dr_willis> zorglu_,  lets just presume you need a pinch.
[11:06] <Minataku> rofl
[11:06] <flavia> hi, what's the regular way to configure a usb modem? I mean something like pppoeconf for ethernet modems
[11:06] <Dr_willis> Black and White... hmm.. that was a fun game
[11:06] <Minataku> You don't pinck kidneys
[11:06] <zorglu_> Dr_willis: well i tried :)
[11:06] <Dr_willis> Throwing rocks and so forth.
[11:06] <larson9999> not a bad desktop.  at least it's not a repackaging of the same old thing.  still don't know i'd prefer it over my current desktop
[11:06] <Minataku> You punch them
[11:06] <Minataku> I use Fluxbox
[11:06] <Minataku> I didn't even look at that link and judging by the reactions, I'm glad I didn't
[11:06] <Dr_willis> !info twin
[11:06] <ubotu> twin: a Text mode WINdow environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1-3 (edgy), package size 422 kB, installed size 1444 kB
[11:07] <Minataku> My eyes probably would have gone into a diabetic shock
[11:07] <Minataku> !fluxbox
[11:07] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[11:07] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  its a video clip of a 'prototype' 3d desktopis interface that acts... like a 'real desk' sort of...
[11:07] <h3sp4wn> !ratpoison
[11:07] <ubotu> ratpoison: keyboard-only window manager. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.4.0.dfsg-4 (edgy), package size 157 kB, installed size 464 kB
[11:07] <Dr_willis> !matchbox
[11:07] <ubotu> matchbox: base environment for resource-limited systems. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:3 (edgy), package size 2 kB, installed size 32 kB
[11:07] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Kinda like Microsoft Bob
[11:07] <Dr_willis> look at that! only 2k!
[11:07] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  MS bob simulated a house...
[11:07] <Minataku> Dr_willis: 32k
[11:07] <Dr_willis> thats some serious compression!
[11:08] <Dr_willis> :)
[11:08] <Minataku> Dr_willis: I know, I just wanted to compare it to something equally as stupid and useless
[11:08] <draik> Dr_willis: What is the video clip. Sounds rather interesting
[11:08] <Minataku> lol
[11:08] <Dr_willis> if it was compressed any more.. you would gain drive space by installing it...
[11:08] <h3sp4wn> Anyone played with scratchbox ?
 HymnToLife: laugth at me while looking at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0ODskdEPnQ&mode=related&search=
[11:08] <Minataku> I like mwm
[11:08] <Dr_willis> :)
[11:08] <Minataku> !mwm
[11:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mwm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:08] <Minataku> LIES
[11:09] <Minataku> lol
[11:09] <Dr_willis> NWN - Never winters Nights Window manager. ;)
[11:09] <Minataku> !mwm is Motif Window Manager
[11:09] <draik> Thank you Dr_willis
[11:09] <Dr_willis> lets take the 2nd Life code.. and make a 2nd life window manager!
[11:09] <zorglu_> Dr_willis: hehe :) more seriously all the people i showed this video reacted similarly to you and other here.
[11:09] <Minataku> zorglu_: That it was a completely useless piece of crap? XD
[11:10] <zorglu_> Dr_willis: now does this make me think i am wrong in thinking user WANTS this ? not a inch :)
[11:10] <zorglu_> Dr_willis: in just remind me that opensource world tends to follow and rarely innovate :)rarely
[11:10] <h3sp4wn> zorglu_: Look at e17 that is innovation
[11:10] <Dr_willis> zorglu_,  ive seen very little inovation from any place lately
[11:11] <Dr_willis> MMORPG Filemanager/Desktop - :) that has... potential
[11:11] <zorglu_> Dr_willis: well on the web, with ajax, a lot of new stuff happened
[11:11] <h3sp4wn> zorglu_: imlib2 there is nothing for any platform that does what imlib2 does better than that
[11:11] <Dr_willis> zorglu_,  i focus more on the games/mmorpg/other stuff..  i barely understand how ajax even works. :)
[11:11] <james_xxx> !compiz
[11:11] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:12] <zorglu_> h3sp4wn: i dont say that opensource doesnt produce gfood code. i just say this code doesnt innovate
[11:12] <zorglu_> Dr_willis: :)
[11:13] <zorglu_> xgl and co is pretty innovative... but only a follow up on something which appeared on macosx
[11:13] <Minataku> zorglu_: Perhaps you were looking for ##windows instead of #kubuntu? Because you seem out of place.
[11:13] <h3sp4wn> zorglu_: The ways it is done is the innovation (altivec / sse or mmx assembler)
[11:13] <zorglu_> Minataku: ??
[11:13] <Little_Eagle> I'm not the only one who noticed
[11:13] <Minataku> zorglu_: To put it bluntly... I think you're a troll.
[11:14] <zorglu_> Minataku: well it is your opinion :)
[11:14] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  but at least hes a amuseing troll.
[11:14] <zorglu_> moauaouaoua :)
[11:14] <h3sp4wn> I think he is correct in some ways (with regards to gnome and kde anyway)
[11:14] <zorglu_> ok i give up :)
[11:14] <Dr_willis> or does anyone else remer those little big-eyed troll dolls with pink/green hair.
[11:14] <Little_Eagle> Dr_willis: Yep.
[11:14] <zorglu_> Dr_willis: i have almost no hair :)
[11:14] <grim76> Momma always said don't feed the trolls
[11:15] <zorglu_> hehehe :)
[11:15] <zorglu_> i like this troll thing :)
[11:15] <zorglu_> if you dont understand something, put a label
[11:15] <Minataku> lol
[11:15] <zorglu_> a generic one meaning nothing
[11:15] <Minataku> zorglu_: It's not
[11:15] <zorglu_> it helps feeling confortable :)
[11:15] <tsmithe> LjL, oh really?
[11:15] <zorglu_> not to have to justify what you think :)))))))
[11:16] <Minataku> A troll is someone who attempts to cause trouble by being deliberately opposed to everything or trying to start arguments/fights
[11:16] <zorglu_> Dr_willis:  :)
[11:16] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  that is not true! :)
[11:16] <Dr_willis> heh heh...
[11:16] <Dr_willis> Yes it is! No its not!
[11:17] <Little_Eagle> Minataku: He thinks it's funny
[11:17] <Minataku> It honestly seems like this is what you're doing, since the "I'm right, you're wrong" attitude you have really points to it
[11:17] <zorglu_> hehehe :)
[11:17] <zorglu_> i am!!!
[11:17] <zorglu_> ok see ya
[11:17] <Little_Eagle> Minataku: So do I
[11:17] <zorglu_> i tried
[11:17] <zorglu_> moreover it is not here that it is decided :)
[11:17] <Dr_willis> go into #debian and ask why you cant unisntall debian from the 'add/remove programs' section of windows..
[11:18] <Little_Eagle> lol
[11:18] <Minataku> lol
[11:18] <Dr_willis> what sad...is ive seen that asked in Linux channels befor.
[11:18] <Minataku> lol
[11:18] <h3sp4wn> That is completely different to being of the opinion that kde and gnome don't innovate they just copy stuff from windows and mac os x
[11:18] <Minataku> Especially since Vista stole everything from everywhere
[11:18] <h3sp4wn> (the gui stuff anway)
[11:19] <will> hey guys.  I butchered an upgrade to edgy. And now for a couple days I've been trying to do something I certainly should have done before upgrading (back up my home folder)
[11:19] <Dr_willis> when they innovate - they get ranted at - becase they are not working like 'all the others work'
[11:19] <Little_Eagle> Isn't in MS that stole windows from mac in the first place?
[11:19] <Minataku> I swear I've seen those Vista window decorations a year or two ago as a KDE style
[11:19] <h3sp4wn> Dr_willis: That wouldn't bother me
[11:19] <Minataku> Little_Eagle: Actually, Apple stole it from Xerox in the first place
[11:19] <will> well, things have gone from bad to worse.  It seems that my /home/will no longer exists.  that just happened in the last few minutes and I have no idea how.
[11:20] <Dr_willis> We need a port of C64 Geos desktop to Linux.
[11:20] <will> does anyone have any recovery tricks up there sleeves or am I shit out of luck?
[11:20] <Minataku> will: Was it mounted on a separate partition?
[11:20] <Minataku> Or a separate drive?
[11:20] <Minataku> Perhaps it wasn't mounted
[11:20] <Little_Eagle> will:  let me guess you did a rm -R * and are now running off live CD
[11:20] <will> yes, I believe so.  but I'm not absolutely sure
[11:21] <will> Little_Eagle: no
[11:21] <Little_Eagle> :)
[11:22] <will> I was trying to format an external drive to fat32 to so that I could cp -a my home folder to it and back it up on my windows machine.
[11:22] <will> I guess it's possible that I accidentally formatted my home directory?  I'm pretty clueless at the command prompt though
[11:22] <Little_Eagle> will, and what command did you use?
[11:23] <Little_Eagle> is the terminal still open?
[11:23] <will> terminal is open
[11:23] <Little_Eagle> hit the up arrow and look at the commands you used.
[11:23] <will> I was using fdisk /media/sda5
[11:23] <will> it would always say that it couldn't read the drive
[11:24] <Minataku> That's because you're trying to run fdisk on a directory
[11:24] <will> fuck yeah!
[11:24] <LjL> !language
[11:24] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:24] <Little_Eagle> you don't use fdisk like that.  only on devices...
[11:24] <will> I don't know how, but I found my home folder.  it is now in /media/sda5/will
[11:24] <will> I don't know how
[11:25] <will> Little_Eagle: ok, so I'm thrilled all is not lost.  do you mind helping me back it up on a usb disk?
[11:26] <will> Little_Eagle: I've got a disk that I've formatted to fat32 using a free windows app (CompuApps SwissKnife)
[11:27] <Dr_willis> !info netconsole
[11:27] <ubotu> Package netconsole does not exist in any distro I know
[11:27] <Dr_willis> !find netconsole
[11:27] <ubotu> Package/file netconsole does not exist in edgy
[11:28] <|kosmo|> !find kvirc
[11:28] <ubotu> Found: kvirc, kvirc-data, kvirc-dev, kvirc2, kvirc2-data (and 1 others)
[11:28] <draik> Dr_willis: Bumptop looks nice. Is that for linux/windows/both?
[11:28] <Minataku> Hm...
[11:28] <Dr_willis> #1 - its just a silly prototype..
[11:28] <Dr_willis> #2 - its not a real program/os anyway :)
[11:28] <draik> Dr_willis: Haha... jokes on you... I got me no kidneys!!!
[11:29] <Minataku> lol
[11:29] <h3sp4wn> draik: are you a machine ?
[11:29] <will> can someone please help me backup my homefolder from the console onto a fat32 disk?  I've been reading stuff online and just seem to be making a bad situation worse by the minute
[11:30] <draik> h3sp4wn: Yes. You should hear me on the phone at work. It's just me repeating myself to all the callers with varied ways of asking the same thing.
[11:30] <Dr_willis> will,  mount the other partition/drive.. and copy the stuff over.. whats the problem?
[11:30] <will> I don't know how to use linux.  that's the main problem.
[11:31] <Dr_willis> where is this fat32disk at?
[11:31] <gabaryah> i'm having a problem running beryl
[11:31] <gabaryah> i'm using a ati 9800 card
[11:31] <gabaryah> No composite extension
[11:31] <gabaryah> beryl: No composite extension
[11:31] <Little_Eagle> You'd probably be better off just using konqeror to copy it.  Just like Windows.
[11:32] <h3sp4wn> gabaryah: use the free drivers
[11:32] <will> Dr_willis: well I've recently formatted it using a free windows app.  it's blank.  when I plug it into the linux box it appears to recognize it, but I'm not sure what it's doing with it.  I think its at dev/sda1 but I'm not sure.  I used to think it was mounted at /media/sda5, but that is apparently where my home folder is being stored now (with no externals attached)
[11:32] <devilsadvocate> will, what, exactly, do you want to do?
[11:33] <Minataku> Erm...
[11:33] <gabaryah> ati?
[11:33] <Dr_willis> will,  use the  'mount' command and see whats mounted where.
[11:33] <Dr_willis> will,  you are on the ubuntu live cd right now?
[11:33] <gabaryah> i'm using xorg-driver-fglrx
[11:34] <will> devilsadvocate: I want to copy my home folder, which is now at /media/sda5/will to an external drive, preferably one that can be read by windows and linux
[11:34] <gabaryah> which drivers are you refferning to h3sp
[11:34] <will> Dr_willis: no, I'm in recovery mode
[11:34] <marc__> test test
[11:34] <devilsadvocate> will, are you on the same computer now?
[11:34] <surgy> HELLO!
[11:35] <Dr_willis> well you need to get the extrenal drive mounted somwehre.
[11:35] <marc__> hello surgy
[11:35] <Dr_willis> will,  is the drive plugged in now?
[11:35] <will> devilsadvocate: no.  I'm on a windows machine
[11:35] <Dr_willis> will,  you are booting back/forth from windows to the linux box?
[11:35] <marc__> how are you
[11:36] <antibody> hi all I've apt-get install kubuntu-desktop from ubuntu..and my fonts in kde suck...is there a package to install automatically some antialized fonts?
[11:37] <will> Dr_willis: I just plugged in the drive.  first, it initializes USB mass storage drivers, then it keeps recognizing it as a scsi disk. it's not.
[11:37] <h3sp4wn> antibody: use fixed fonts
[11:37] <Little_Eagle> will, all usb devices are treated as scsi..
[11:37] <Little_Eagle> so are SATA drives.
[11:38] <will> Dr_willis: no, I lost my gui in a botched edgy upgrade, so I'm using a windows machine for IRC and internet access
[11:38] <h3sp4wn> antibody: if you are on an lcd panel connected via vga (not dvi) do dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config (sub pixel hinting always) or see xfree86 deuglification howto
[11:38] <will> ok, so the drive is plugged in.  how do I mount it?
[11:39] <alex_> can someone help me install something
[11:39] <Little_Eagle> First you need to know which device it is.  Most likely it's sda1
[11:40] <will> how do I check that?
[11:40] <antibody> h3sp4wn: it's a laptop
[11:40] <alex_> I need to install 915resolution, how do I do it?
[11:40] <Dr_willis> will,  a usb drive IS recognized as a scsi device. :)
[11:41] <h3sp4wn> alex_: maybe you want the modesetting driver
[11:41] <Dr_willis> will,  use 'dmesg' command and see where its 'seen' at.. likd /dev/sdb1 or similer will be shown
[11:41] <alex_> h3sp4wn: what is that?
[11:41] <rEvolution27> how do i disable the desktop pager?
[11:41] <alex_> h3sp4wn: I just need to change the resolution on my 945GM card, that's all
[11:41] <h3sp4wn> alex_: the newer driver for intel cards
[11:41] <Little_Eagle> will: try to mount it.  mkdir /media/usb  && mount -t auto /dev/sda1 /media/usb
[11:41] <will> Little_Eagle: I'm on you private chat now, if you'd prefer that.  And one of the lines in the output after plugging in the drive reads " sda: sda1"
[11:41] <alex_> h3sp4wn: and enable 3d acceleration
[11:41] <alex_> h3sp4wn: can you tell me how to install that then?
[11:42] <Little_Eagle> !nvidia
[11:42] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:42] <alex_> ?
[11:42] <will> Little_Eagle: I know this is annoying, but do I actually type && or is that signifying the next command
[11:42] <h3sp4wn> alex_: Not in a short amount of time
[11:43] <Minataku> will: Type &&
[11:43] <Dr_willis> 945GM  is an IBM? Intel?
[11:43] <alex_> h3sp4wn: :(
[11:43] <Little_Eagle> either one.
[11:43] <alex_> intel
[11:43] <Minataku> In the CLI "&&" is "and", "&" is "background"
[11:43] <h3sp4wn> Dr_willis: intel
[11:43] <alex_> those instructions are for NVidia/ATI only though
[11:44] <Minataku> !915resolution
[11:44] <ubotu> 915resolution: resolution modification tool for Intel graphic chipset. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 14 kB, installed size 128 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)
[11:44] <Little_Eagle> sorry
[11:44] <Minataku> Hm... no instructions
[11:44] <Little_Eagle> will:  is it mounted now?
[11:44] <alex_> but how do I install it?
[11:44] <h3sp4wn> alex_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1646660
[11:44] <Minataku> alex_: Use the package manager
[11:44] <Minataku> That should be all
[11:45] <Minataku> Basically install it the same way you'd install anything else
[11:45] <devilsadvocate> alex, are you able to use your native resolution?
[11:45] <alex_> devilsadvocate: no, that's why I need it
[11:45] <h3sp4wn> alex_: or backport from feisty http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/x11/xserver-xorg-video-i810-modesetting
[11:46] <alex_> how do I get to the package manager?
[11:46] <will> Little_Eagle: well.  I've got some file system problems so my computer is booting with the file system read only
[11:46] <gabaryah> beryl is working however video & vmware screen is blacked out
[11:46] <devilsadvocate> alex_, look for a how-to. you need 915resolution package, which you can get with apt, and then you need to chage a line in a config file to set your resolution
[11:46] <gabaryah> anyone else having this problem
[11:47] <will> Little_Eagle: I can remount as read-write with mount -n -o remount,rw /
[11:47] <will> Little_Eagle: should I?
[11:47] <alex_> So I use adept installer? and search there for 915resolution?
[11:48] <alex_> couldn't find anything there
[11:48] <Dr_willis> shoudl be ritht at the top
[11:48] <alex_> says no results
[11:48] <Dr_willis> !find 915
[11:48] <ubotu> Found: 915resolution
[11:48] <Dr_willis> !info 915resolution
[11:48] <ubotu> 915resolution: resolution modification tool for Intel graphic chipset. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 14 kB, installed size 128 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)
[11:48] <voidmage> I just had to restart x and since then I can't get direct rendering with fglrx. Anyone know how to get direct rendering back?
[11:49] <Dr_willis> voidmage,  you mean stop using fglrx?
[11:49] <alex_> Where do I go to get 915resolution??
[11:49] <klees> where can i find the lock file adept uses??
[11:49] <devilsadvocate> alex_, have you used apt-get or synaptic before?
[11:50] <tazz>  when i do a 'umount /dev/hdc (my dvd-wr) i get the error 'umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy' how do i get my dvd-wr to eject ?
[11:50] <Dr_willis> !fixadept
[11:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixadept - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:50] <alex_> devilsadvocate: the simple answer is no
[11:50] <Dr_willis> !adeptfix
[11:50] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[11:50] <gabaryah> how do i change desktop res using kde
[11:50] <devilsadvocate> !synaptic | alex_
[11:50] <ubotu> alex_: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[11:50] <alex_> devilsadvocate: I had SuSE before, I installed Kubuntu just today
[11:51] <Little_Eagle> msg will  Worst case scenario, reinstall, and make home a separate partition.
[11:51] <Sanne> tazz: some process still accesses your dvd device. Find out what and close it.
[11:51] <Little_Eagle> darn
[11:51] <klees> Dr_willis: thank you that worked
[11:51] <devilsadvocate> !apt | alex_
[11:51] <ubotu> alex_: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[11:51] <tazz> Sanne, any idea how i find the process?
[11:52] <devilsadvocate> alex_, sorry... its adpt, not aynaptic. my bad
[11:52] <Little_Eagle> Goodnight all (almost morning here)
[11:52] <voidmage> Okay
[11:52] <alex_> one sec
[11:52] <voidmage> I've restarted X and i'm using radeon now
[11:52] <voidmage> and i get this
[11:52] <will> Little_Eagle: I've got it mounted
[11:52] <devilsadvocate> alex_, if you are comfortable on the command line i recommend apt-get or aptitude
[11:52] <Sanne> tazz: I'm not sure, maybe it's: lsof /your/device
[11:52] <voidmage> $ glxinfo |grep direct
[11:52] <voidmage> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:52] <voidmage> direct rendering: No
[11:52] <voidmage> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[11:52] <will> where do I cp -a media/sda5 to
[11:53] <alex_> devilsadvocate: ok so do I do this: sudo apt-get install 915resolution ?
[11:53] <devilsadvocate> alex_, yeah
[11:53] <alex_> devilsadvocate: well it says that 915resolution is not found
[11:53] <tazz> Sanne, got it thanks
[11:53] <Sanne> tazz: you're welcome :)
[11:53] <alex_> devilsadvocate: E: Couldn't find package 915resolution
[11:54] <voidmage> What can I do now to get direct rendering?
[11:55] <devilsadvocate> alex_, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy/Hardware
[11:55] <devilsadvocate> alex_, go to the section about correcting graphics resolution in Intel
[11:56] <devilsadvocate> alex_, i suppose you need to add the extra repositories
[11:56] <alex_> devilsadvocate: ok hang on
[11:57] <alex_> devilsadvocate: I just don't see the list of the repos I have to add
[11:58] <devilsadvocate> alex_, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[11:58] <larson9999> i think vista will finally achieve MSs obvious goal of making an OS i don't buy.
[12:00] <ooglaboogla> i've installed kubuntu herd3 and the package manager (adept) says there is a new upgrade, click next to upgrade. when i click the program disappears, closes, gone
[12:00] <will> what's the command to safely remove a usb drive
[12:01] <Sanne> will: if you have the icon on the desktop, right click->safely remove
[12:01] <will> Sanne: I have no gui (long story) do you know the command for it?
[12:02] <Sanne> will: Not really. Has it to do with "sync"? Others should answer that, please.
[12:03] <rEvolution27> umm guys.... i uninstalled kicker and kde got messed up... how do I fix this?
[12:03] <gabaryah> wheres resolution settings for KDE
[12:05] <will> anyone know how to safely remove a usb drive from the command prompt?
[12:05] <rEvolution27> anyone?
[12:05] <tsdgeos> will: yes
[12:06] <tsdgeos> just write
[12:06] <tsdgeos> sync
[12:06] <chavo> rEvolution27, reinstall it?
[12:06] <tsdgeos> and that'll flush all your file systems
[12:06] <rEvolution27> yes but how?
[12:06] <tsdgeos> and then you can remove the usb drive
[12:06] <rEvolution27> i have no taskbar
[12:06] <chavo> try sudo apt-get install kicker
[12:07] <chavo> kicker is the taskbar
[12:07] <rEvolution27> oh
[12:07] <rEvolution27> that explains
[12:07] <will> tsdgeos: thanks
[12:07] <rEvolution27> i though it was just the multiple desktops part
[12:07] <rEvolution27> what's the keyboard shortcut to open the console?
[12:08] <chavo> hit alt-f2 for a run box then type konsole
[12:08] <rEvolution27> no wonder... i was typing console
[12:08] <chavo> rEvolution27, if you uninstall kicker it will take some other packages with it, so you might want to reinstall them all
[12:08] <rEvolution27> yeh
[12:08] <chavo> just do -> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:09] <chavo> to get them all back
[12:09] <rEvolution27> ok
[12:09] <alex_> devilsadvocate: many things that I launch, don't work
[12:09] <rEvolution27> i'll learn not to do something stupid like that again
[12:10] <chavo> best way to learn :)
[12:10] <devilsadvocate> alex_, such as? replace gedit with kate at all instances
[12:10] <alex_> devilsadvocate: it looks like they launch (in the task bar), there is an icon next to the cursor, and then they disappear
[12:10] <chavo> that's how I learned so much, by messing things up and having to fix it
[12:10] <devilsadvocate> alex_, what are you trying to run?
[12:11] <alex_> devilsadvocate: like I click on adept, and it never launches
[12:11] <devilsadvocate> alex_, try using apt-get. its actually easier :P
[12:12] <alex_> devilsadvocate: yeah, I mean that's fine
[12:12] <alex_> devilsadvocate: I am just saying in general, there seems to be some kind of a problem
[12:12] <alex_> devilsadvocate: I need to launch some things many times before they appear :S
[12:12] <devilsadvocate> alex_, i dont know about adept// never used it :P
[12:12] <alex_> devilsadvocate: ANYthing, not just adept
[12:13] <alex_> devilsadvocate: kate, gedit, wlassistant, etc
[12:13] <rEvolution27> so chavo... this will overwrite kde?
[12:13] <devilsadvocate> alex_, hmm. seems like you have a problem. try running them from a command line and see the errors
[12:13] <oem> hallo alle nachtschwrmer
[12:14] <alex_> devilsadvocate: from command line it does launch