| BenC | No, the amd64 alt cd was oversized, so I did the i386 | 12:26 |
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| BenC | crimsun: ping | 01:58 |
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| crazy_rzt | Hi | 02:06 |
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| crazy_rzt | ip route add default table 222 proto static nexthop via $GW1 dev $IF1 nexthop via $GW2 dev $IF2 | 02:08 |
| crazy_rzt | With this line(and others...) i have Load-Balance and redundancy working 100%. | 02:08 |
| crazy_rzt | But, i dont need this Load-Balance, only redundancy. | 02:08 |
| crazy_rzt | what i need to do to not nexthop every pkt? only if a iface goes down? | 02:08 |
| zul | crazy_rzt: try #ubuntu this isnt a support channel | 02:09 |
| crazy_rzt | ok sorry | 02:09 |
| crazy_rzt | thkz for advice | 02:10 |
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| crimsun | BenC: pong | 06:00 |
| BenC | crimsun: I have a new laptop that has hda sound, and alsa recognizes it, and acts like it's working, but no sound is coming out | 06:14 |
| BenC | checked alsamixer and all | 06:14 |
| BenC | has two codecs | 06:14 |
| BenC | Codec: SigmaTel ID 7634 | 06:14 |
| BenC | Codec: Motorola Si3054 | 06:15 |
| crimsun | erg, I'll need to backport those fixes | 06:16 |
| crimsun | BenC: please file a bug and subscribe ubuntu-audio to it, and I'll try to address that this weekend | 06:17 |
| BenC | crimsun: Thanks | 06:18 |
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| zul | heh...https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SimpleVirtualization | 12:34 |
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| BenC | mjg59: ping | 03:26 |
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| fabbione | BenC: thanks dude | 04:31 |
| fabbione | http://hera.kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/steve/gfs2-2.6-nmw.git;a=summary | 04:32 |
| fabbione | BenC: i need you to pull from that tree for the next kernel | 04:32 |
| fabbione | there are important bug fixes for GFS2 | 04:32 |
| fabbione | including a fix for a deadlock that makes it impossible to use | 04:32 |
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| fabbione | the nmw tree is basically bug fixes for "Next Merge Window" | 04:33 |
| fabbione | so it's safe to pull | 04:33 |
| BenC | Ok | 04:38 |
| BenC | fabbione: Can you email that to me so I can make sure I remember? | 04:39 |
| fabbione | BenC: sure. i will do that when i am back to the office. | 04:39 |
| fabbione | the network at the hotel stinks | 04:39 |
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| BenC | kylem: I got my ia32 architecture manuals, did you get yours? | 06:08 |
| fabbione | BenC: we have a fix for GFS1 | 06:09 |
| fabbione | for .20 | 06:09 |
| BenC | cool | 06:09 |
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| fabbione | they commit it yesterday in CVS | 06:10 |
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| Eruantalon | Is the ivtv driver included by default in the prpposed feisty kernel? | 06:26 |
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| kylem | BenC, didn't order them yet. | 06:33 |
| BenC | kylem: Make sure you give them a shipping address and not a postal address :) | 06:33 |
| BenC | my package got all the way here via DHL before they noticed that it was going to a PO Box | 06:33 |
| kylem | hehe. | 06:33 |
| BenC | Eruantalon: Yes | 06:33 |
| BenC | nice books though | 06:34 |
| kylem | yeah, when i ordered the itanium manuals a few years back, they came like next day. | 06:34 |
| Eruantalon | BenC: Can I upgrade to the feisty kernel without upgrading the rest of the system as it is still unstable? | 06:34 |
| BenC | Eruantalon: You can, but it isn't supported...e.g. it works (I do it), but there may be unforseen problems | 06:35 |
| Eruantalon | would that be 2.6.20-6.11 then? | 06:36 |
| BenC | plus, you'll have to upgrade module-init-tools and initramfs-tools to, which means libc6, which means you just grabbed some important feisty parts already | 06:36 |
| BenC | yes | 06:36 |
| Eruantalon | BenC: So just doing feisty would be simpler? I just need ivtv... | 06:36 |
| BenC | not simpler, just that you might as well take the plunge | 06:37 |
| BenC | feisty isn't totally unstable right now | 06:37 |
| BenC | I'm running it on my laptop, and haven't had any problems yet | 06:37 |
| Eruantalon | BenC: Ok. I think i might do it. It's just that i was hoping to make this install a rather stable one( it is for my server that going to run mythtv) | 06:37 |
| BenC | Eruantalon: I would say a server install is very stable in feisty right now | 06:38 |
| BenC | most of the instability would be in desktop stuff | 06:39 |
| Eruantalon | BenC: Ah. But is not just server: also mythtvfrontend and similar stuff. But if it is just applications chrashing now and then that would really be a problem | 06:39 |
| BenC | there's no crashing | 06:40 |
| Eruantalon | oops. i meant to write not a problem. | 06:41 |
| BenC | if you want ivtv, take the jump, else wait for April 20th | 06:41 |
| Eruantalon | BenC: It is tempting. Btw any difference when running kubuntu? | 06:41 |
| BenC | these are questions for #ubuntu, I can only tell you that the kernel is stable | 06:42 |
| Eruantalon | ok. thanks | 06:43 |
| Eruantalon | A kernel related question. If I am using only kernel, that is no closed source drivers or outside stuff then a freeze of my computer because of an app would be a kernel bug(or hardware) or is it so that apps will always inherently be able to crash even a bugfree kernel? | 06:46 |
| Eruantalon | Is the platform constructed so that a userspace app will be able to lay down the entire system or is that considered a bug when that happens? | 06:47 |
| cjb | Eruantalon: Yes, you can make the argument that any crash is a kernel bug. | 06:48 |
| Eruantalon | cjb: Unless bad hardware or closed drivers... right? | 06:48 |
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| kylem | wrong. | 06:49 |
| kylem | it's entirely plausible, and in most cases, very likely, that X will wedge your machine. | 06:50 |
| cjb | that's because X is a kernel driver ;-) | 06:51 |
| Eruantalon | cjb: Yes isn't it? | 06:51 |
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| Eruantalon | BenC: When upgrading to feisty will it be necessary to remove old modules etc. from the old kernel or will they not conflict? | 08:24 |
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| BenC | Eruantalon: of course we handle that...else upgrades would be pretty busted | 08:40 |
| Eruantalon | BenC: You guys are good aren't you :-) | 08:40 |
| Nafallo | ofcourse they are :-) | 08:41 |
| Nafallo | they are the best. sabdfl hired them... | 08:41 |
| Eruantalon | just waiting for the cd-image to finish 2h lefts | 08:41 |
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| mjg59 | BenC: Online now - context? | 10:38 |
| BenC | mjg59: nm, I think | 10:41 |
| BenC | basically rt2x00 wont compile with dscape | 10:41 |
| BenC | it has hwmode stuff in it's local dscape that isn't in the wireless-dev one | 10:41 |
| mjg59 | Yeah, I think we had that conversation already :) | 10:41 |
| mjg59 | Eh. Pain. | 10:41 |
| BenC | so I resorted to disabling rt2x00 and using strictly rt2x00-legacy | 10:41 |
| kylem | fucking muppets. | 10:41 |
| mjg59 | Ok, I'll look into it | 10:41 |
| mjg59 | I have none of the hardware | 10:41 |
| mjg59 | But if it builds, we're all good | 10:42 |
| BenC | Neither do I | 10:42 |
| BenC | it only affects rt61 and rt73 | 10:42 |
| BenC | rt2[45] 00 was already built with -legacy since the CVS stuff doesn't actually work for my rt2500pci | 10:42 |
| mjg59 | Ha | 10:43 |
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| Eruantalon | Will there be more lirc support in the feisty kernel? | 11:13 |
| Eruantalon | included by default that is | 11:15 |
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