gnomefreak | in making a control file the part depends: $(shlibs:depends) i would leave $(shlibs: than list the build depends after that) and what would i put between each depend | 12:18 |
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gnomefreak | is this what it should look like? Depends: ${shlibs:automake1.9 build-essential cvs libpango1.0-dev libgtk2.0-dev libgconf2-dev libglitz-glx-dev librsvg2-dev checkinstall libglade2-dev libxcomposite-dev libtool libgtop2-dev} | 12:19 |
crimsun | no | 12:19 |
gnomefreak | :( | 12:20 |
geser | gnomefreak: pick any non-complex package to see how is should look like | 12:21 |
geser | gnomefreak: you have a line starting with Build-Depends which lists all needed package to build | 12:21 |
geser | and you have a line Depends for each package stating the runtime depends | 12:22 |
gnomefreak | not from what im reading :( someone might want to change the guide than? | 12:22 |
geser | the value ${shlibs:depends} gets filled during the build by some debhelper script | 12:23 |
gnomefreak | oh | 12:23 |
geser | so you get the current dependency automatically and don't need to do it everytime manually | 12:24 |
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gnomefreak | ok i see where it gets the depends from. the file im scared to death to make | 12:27 |
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crimsun | what's "this"? | 12:28 |
geser | gnomefreak: why are you trying to package? | 12:28 |
crimsun | (and your checkinstall is showing.) | 12:28 |
gnomefreak | yeah i removed all that checkinstall was a mistake | 12:28 |
gnomefreak | ah i know wher ei can get the files from and just edit them as needed (that might work for the rules file) | 12:29 |
crimsun | heh, you should try cdbs. | 12:30 |
geser | gnomefreak: look if there is a package similar to what you want packaged and spy there :) | 12:31 |
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gnomefreak | im looking for it atm | 12:31 |
gnomefreak | good thing its not going into ubuntu repos :) | 12:32 |
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TheMuso | Hobbsee! | 01:50 |
Fujitsu | Hobbsee!!!111!!ONE | 01:50 |
Hobbsee | TheMuso! | 01:52 |
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zul | hey | 01:53 |
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Fujitsu | Hi zul. | 01:54 |
Hobbsee | hey Fujitsu! hey zul! | 01:56 |
zul | hey Hobbsee how goes the stick? | 01:57 |
Hobbsee | the stick goes :) | 01:59 |
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gnomefreak | in the control file section is the repo that the package is in right? | 02:11 |
bddebian | Heya gang | 02:11 |
Hobbsee | uh, no. doesnt say at all, actually | 02:11 |
Hobbsee | gnomefreak: 6 | 02:11 |
Hobbsee | gnomefreak: ^ | 02:11 |
gnomefreak | it says Section: unknown should that be changed? | 02:12 |
Hobbsee | gnomefreak: what's the package? | 02:13 |
gnomefreak | scribus-mg | 02:13 |
gnomefreak | ng | 02:13 |
gnomefreak | in show it says universe/graphics | 02:14 |
Hobbsee | check the debian maintainers guide - it's sections like kde, gnome, etc | 02:14 |
Hobbsee | ah. | 02:14 |
=== Hobbsee shrugs | ||
Hobbsee | could be what it's supposed to be | 02:14 |
gnomefreak | ok makes sence | 02:14 |
Fujitsu | gnomefreak: The archive admins add the universe/, so you just need the section. | 02:16 |
gnomefreak | ah ok | 02:16 |
Fujitsu | universe is the component, graphics is the section. You only need the section. | 02:17 |
gnomefreak | cool :) | 02:17 |
bddebian | w00t we're under 20 new merges :-) | 02:20 |
Fujitsu | Yay! | 02:23 |
Fujitsu | Better than Edgy, at any rate. | 02:23 |
=== Fujitsu reduces the number further. | ||
Fujitsu | (although I presume a number of them have sync requests filed) | 02:23 |
bddebian | Not too many that are left I don't think. Though I know maildir-bulletin does ;-) | 02:24 |
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Fujitsu | 4 of the new ones need no action, as they were fake syncs due to stuffed Debian versioning. | 02:26 |
Fujitsu | So we're down to 14 or so. | 02:26 |
bddebian | xbvl is unbuildable afaict | 02:27 |
bddebian | Unless we bring back libGLw | 02:27 |
Fujitsu | AFAIK too. | 02:27 |
Fujitsu | Yep. | 02:27 |
Fujitsu | We need a comments field :( | 02:27 |
bddebian | Yep | 02:28 |
Fujitsu | We should have one on our own MoM for Feisty+1, so it's just a short-term problem. | 02:28 |
Hobbsee | Fujitsu: our own one? | 02:30 |
Hobbsee | anyoen interested in updating mplayer, btw? | 02:30 |
Fujitsu | Hobbsee, yes, it is planned to have our own. | 02:30 |
Fujitsu | Hobbsee, I might take a look, if it's not too horrible. | 02:30 |
Hobbsee | Fujitsu: neat :) | 02:30 |
Hobbsee | Fujitsu: okay | 02:30 |
TheMuso | c/me prepares to go indoor rock climbing. | 02:32 |
Hobbsee | TheMuso: nice!!! | 02:32 |
zakame | morning all | 02:32 |
bddebian | Heya zakame | 02:32 |
zakame | TheMuso: that's rocking | 02:32 |
zakame | yo bddebian! | 02:32 |
TheMuso | zakame: haha yeah. | 02:32 |
Hobbsee | Fujitsu: looking into it now | 02:38 |
Fujitsu | Hobbsee, I am too. | 02:38 |
Fujitsu | Any other nice new upstream versions we want? | 02:40 |
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Hobbsee | Fujitsu: make sure you grab that patch for the vulnerability, too | 02:40 |
gnomefreak | crap so close | 02:43 |
ademan | i realize this is off topic but can anyone PM me and help me with the ATI drivers? #ubuntu is being useless | 02:43 |
gnomefreak | how do i get depends inside pbuilder | 02:44 |
Hobbsee | gnomefreak: build whatever you're trying to, it'll fail in configure? | 02:44 |
gnomefreak | yes missing a lib | 02:45 |
ademan | gnomefreak: hrm? your debian/control should have Build-Depend: ListOfPackagesNeededToBuild | 02:45 |
gnomefreak | it does ill check to see if it has libart | 02:45 |
ademan | note you'll have to dpkg-buildpackage again for those changes to take effect | 02:47 |
gnomefreak | i running debuild -S again | 02:47 |
Fujitsu | That'll do too. | 02:48 |
gnomefreak | than the pbuilder command | 02:48 |
ademan | what's the difference between dpkg-buildpackage and debuild? | 02:48 |
bddebian | Not much | 02:48 |
ademan | any advantages one way or the other? | 02:49 |
gnomefreak | isnt debuild used only with debhelper? | 02:49 |
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ademan | i know i've used debhelper with dpkg-buildpackage, so i dunno | 02:49 |
Hobbsee | no, both use debhelper | 02:49 |
Hobbsee | debuild requires devscripts installed | 02:49 |
somerville32 | Do we usually complete all the merges? | 02:51 |
gnomefreak | yay its installing them | 02:52 |
Fujitsu | somerville32, not as far as I know... But we can get very close, and we've got more time now. | 02:53 |
somerville32 | Fujitsu, I guess my real question is, "Are we doing good this release?" | 02:53 |
zakame | freeze's on 15th right? | 02:53 |
gnomefreak | i guess since its still failing on libart i should add libart-2.0-2-dev packages too? | 02:54 |
Fujitsu | zakame, UVF is the 8th. | 02:54 |
Fujitsu | somerville32, better than Edgy, I think. | 02:54 |
zakame | oh, thanks | 02:54 |
gnomefreak | it doesnt matter how many time i run debuild right? | 02:55 |
somerville32 | gnomefreak, You need to run it to rebuild the source package | 02:56 |
gnomefreak | but running it 3 times isnt gonna make 3 sources is it? | 02:56 |
somerville32 | No | 02:56 |
somerville32 | It overwrites it | 02:56 |
gnomefreak | ok cool | 02:56 |
Hobbsee | gnomefreak: yeah, you need the -dev package. | 03:04 |
gnomefreak | i took most from build-dep scribus-ng :) | 03:04 |
gnomefreak | so far so good | 03:04 |
gnomefreak | im kind of scared of lintian | 03:05 |
gnomefreak | oh yeah its grabbing alot of packages now. im betting that part is right now | 03:06 |
Hobbsee | Fujitsu: fails on --enable-vortis, if you havent already found out | 03:07 |
Fujitsu | I'm still checking-out the bzr branch. | 03:08 |
Hobbsee | bah. didnt even know there was one. | 03:08 |
Fujitsu | In the README in the old source package, it says there is. | 03:08 |
Fujitsu | And a good thing to. | 03:08 |
Fujitsu | *too | 03:08 |
Fujitsu | bzr-maintained packages are goooood. | 03:08 |
Hobbsee | hehe :) | 03:09 |
Fujitsu | (especially when there's a fairly large delta) | 03:09 |
Fujitsu | Why is bzr so slow!? | 03:12 |
zakame | I thought you was praising it? :P | 03:13 |
Fujitsu | It is good, but rather slow. | 03:13 |
Fujitsu | And I note that Debian now has a mplayer package. | 03:13 |
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Nafallo | Fujitsu: because it's not written for speed? :-) | 03:13 |
zakame | oh, amenucc's | 03:14 |
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Nafallo | Fujitsu: they have probably thrown out most of the stuff people want... | 03:15 |
_jaldhar | Anyone here going to ubucon? | 03:15 |
Fujitsu | This is true; I just noticed that it was in main. | 03:15 |
somerville32 | Is debian using python 2.5? | 03:16 |
Fujitsu | So, stuff Debian in this case. | 03:16 |
Nafallo | Fujitsu: better to keep ours and keep it up-to-date I think :-) | 03:16 |
Fujitsu | Looks like it. | 03:16 |
Nafallo | Fujitsu: so feel free to package new upstream version ;-) | 03:16 |
Fujitsu | That's what I'm doing :) | 03:17 |
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Fujitsu | (once these stupid branches check out) | 03:17 |
Fujitsu | Hi minghua. | 03:17 |
Nafallo | hehe | 03:17 |
minghua | Hello Fujitsu | 03:17 |
Fujitsu | bddebian, why didn't you request a sync of u++? | 03:20 |
bddebian | md5sum mismatch, no? | 03:21 |
Fujitsu | Wouldn't that put it on the manual list? | 03:21 |
bddebian | It didn't for Istanbul | 03:21 |
Fujitsu | How strange. | 03:22 |
Fujitsu | Do we want to remove mozilla? Debian did some time ago. | 03:22 |
bddebian | Still has a lot of rdepends, doesn't it? (Though yes, I think we should remove it) :-) | 03:23 |
Fujitsu | Indeed, it does. | 03:23 |
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Fujitsu | Ah. | 03:24 |
Fujitsu | They seem to be mostly mozilla | www-browser | 03:24 |
bddebian | Yeah. | 03:24 |
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gnomefreak | i keep getting a damn 404 error :( | 03:27 |
gnomefreak | what do you do if pbuilder cant grab a depend because of a 404 error from repo? | 03:28 |
Fujitsu | pbuilder update | 03:31 |
zakame | does cowbuilder work now in feisty? I can't seem to even --create it | 03:32 |
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bddebian | cowbuilder? | 03:40 |
zakame | yeah, from cowdancer | 03:42 |
zakame | alternate to pbuilder, avoids extracting base.tgzs... | 03:43 |
bddebian | Hmm | 03:43 |
zakame | I tried creating a base-cow now but it borks saying cowbuilder can't be found in the chroot's repositories check | 03:44 |
Fujitsu | zakame: How does it do it without extracting them? Just cleans the directory up? | 03:48 |
zakame | Fujitsu: yeah iirc, its copy-on-write | 03:53 |
Fujitsu | Ah. | 03:54 |
Fujitsu | Sounds similar to LVM snapshots. | 03:54 |
zakame | yeah | 03:54 |
Fujitsu | Hm, I should probably do a license audit on the delta... But it's biiig. | 03:56 |
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gnomefreak | libarts is starting to work on my nerves :( | 03:57 |
DarkMageZ | gnomefreak, luckily kde4 is getting rid of arts | 03:58 |
gnomefreak | DarkMageZ: than the upstream needs to get rid of it as a depends | 03:58 |
gnomefreak | i think i know what happened but will find out | 03:58 |
gnomefreak | last time i running this tonight | 04:05 |
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gnomefreak | is there an easy fast way to fix this error? checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! | 04:53 |
gnomefreak | i woul dlove to finish this before deb | 04:53 |
gnomefreak | bed | 04:53 |
Fujitsu | Nafallo, around? | 04:53 |
Fujitsu | Ah, I see not. | 04:53 |
Nafallo | Fujitsu: pong @ 4:53 ;-) | 04:54 |
Fujitsu | Aha. | 04:54 |
Fujitsu | You seem to be the master of recent mplayer uploads. | 04:55 |
Fujitsu | What's the process for a new upstream? Put it in upstream-ubuntu first, then merge to ubuntu, then resolve conflicts... Then what? | 04:55 |
Nafallo | oh. no idea. I haven't really tried that :-) | 04:56 |
Nafallo | locally I do for example gajim/bzr/{tarball,ubuntu} | 04:56 |
Fujitsu | But you did the last mplahyer new upstream, didn't you? | 04:57 |
Nafallo | and then bzr import tarballs to tarball and commit and then merge with ubuntu :-) | 04:57 |
Fujitsu | *mplayer | 04:57 |
Fujitsu | OK. | 04:57 |
Nafallo | hmm. no idea. I did the repacking upstream wanted :-) | 04:57 |
Nafallo | I don't think I upgraded it | 04:58 |
Nafallo | ages ago anyway :-P | 04:58 |
Fujitsu | Yah. | 04:58 |
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sistpoty | gn8 everyone | 05:00 |
Nafallo | siretart: night :-) | 05:01 |
bddebian | Gnight sistpoty | 05:01 |
ajmitch | night sistpoty :) | 05:01 |
Nafallo | I must have reminded him about the time :-P | 05:01 |
bddebian | Sick bastards :-) | 05:02 |
zakame | hehe | 05:02 |
Nafallo | I have a LugRadio-marathon ffs :-P | 05:03 |
Nafallo | have taken me two-three days now :-) | 05:03 |
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Nafallo | I'm on s3e3 :-) | 05:03 |
ajmitch | away from computers | 05:03 |
Fujitsu | ajmitch, impossible! | 05:03 |
ajmitch | but true! | 05:03 |
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Fujitsu | Wow, my mplayer source package actually built from bzr. I'm impressed. | 05:04 |
ajmitch | I worry that you sound surprised | 05:05 |
Fujitsu | It's mplayer, the upstream needed to be modified a lot, and it's in bzr. | 05:05 |
Fujitsu | None of which increase my confidence. | 05:05 |
Nafallo | shall I look at it for you? | 05:06 |
Fujitsu | Not yet, I think I know what I'm doing now. | 05:07 |
Nafallo | hehe :-) | 05:07 |
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Nafallo | gn{att,ight} | 05:25 |
bddebian | Gnight Nafallo | 05:29 |
ScottK | Actually all I had to do was complain and then it wasn't so hard ... | 05:33 |
bddebian | Heya LaserJock | 05:34 |
LaserJock | hi bddebian | 05:34 |
LaserJock | bddebian: how are things? | 05:36 |
bddebian | Going man thanks. You? | 05:37 |
LaserJock | decent | 05:38 |
LaserJock | just got back from a conference | 05:38 |
bddebian | A Laser Conference? :-) | 05:39 |
ajmitch | hello LaserJock | 05:42 |
LaserJock | bddebian: yes | 05:42 |
LaserJock | bddebian: kinda | 05:42 |
LaserJock | hi ajmitch | 05:42 |
LaserJock | uggg, lots of FTBFS | 05:43 |
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ajmitch | LaserJock: might as well get working on them then | 05:45 |
LaserJock | hmm | 05:46 |
LaserJock | well, ever time I got to these conferences I realize how much I need to focus on research | 05:47 |
bddebian | I'll try to hit some when I think I can't get through any more merges which is getting VERY close :-) | 05:47 |
Fujitsu | LaserJock: Note that about 1/3 of them are false, due to schroot issues. | 05:50 |
LaserJock | Fujitsu: yeah, it's hard to work with that many false positives | 05:58 |
Fujitsu | You can eliminate them by looking for larger logs. | 05:59 |
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LaserJock | well, I'm going to bed | 06:13 |
LaserJock | cya all tomorrow | 06:13 |
Fujitsu | Goodnight, Laser_away. | 06:14 |
bddebian | Gnight Laser_away | 06:16 |
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joejaxx | anyone awake? | 07:45 |
joejaxx | :( | 07:45 |
lifeless | no | 07:49 |
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Fujitsu | (and sleep-updating-mplayer) | 07:51 |
joejaxx | :( | 07:57 |
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Fujitsu | Go to bed, imbrandon! | 09:46 |
Fujitsu | (or did you just wake up?) | 09:47 |
imbrandon | i just got to work | 09:47 |
imbrandon | no sleeep for me | 09:47 |
Fujitsu | Ah. | 09:47 |
imbrandon | well got to work 3 hours ago | 09:47 |
imbrandon | but just now logging in etc | 09:47 |
imbrandon | ;) | 09:47 |
imbrandon | wasup Fujitsu ? | 09:48 |
imbrandon | maybe i'll blog tonight , i havent done that in a while | 09:48 |
Fujitsu | Well, I've just finished yet another compilation of mplayer 1.0rc1, and it seems to be working this time. | 09:48 |
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imbrandon | nice | 09:50 |
imbrandon | hrm i wish there was an archive admin awake | 09:51 |
Fujitsu | Why? | 09:51 |
imbrandon | to push a manual main promotion | 09:51 |
Fujitsu | There are 6 now, you know? | 09:51 |
Fujitsu | Surely one of them is up... | 09:52 |
imbrandon | 6 now ? wow | 09:52 |
Fujitsu | seb128 and Mithrandir. | 09:52 |
Fujitsu | Although I'm not sure if seb128 has the requisite accounts yet. | 09:53 |
ajmitch | hey imbrandon | 09:54 |
imbrandon | heya ajmitch | 09:54 |
Fujitsu | Evening, ajmitch. | 09:54 |
ajmitch | evening | 09:55 |
ajmitch | all the active archive admins seem to be in the same timezone now | 09:55 |
imbrandon | wow haha | 09:55 |
imbrandon | what timezone? | 09:55 |
Fujitsu | ajmitch, other than infinity, I presume. | 09:55 |
ajmitch | Fujitsu: I said active | 09:55 |
ajmitch | have you seen him round at all this year? | 09:55 |
Fujitsu | True. | 09:55 |
Fujitsu | He was away for a while. | 09:56 |
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Fujitsu | (ie. on holidays) | 09:56 |
ajmitch | imbrandon: UTC+1 or +2, I think | 09:56 |
Fujitsu | seb128 is somewhere else as well, isn't he? | 09:56 |
ajmitch | actually no, UTC & UTC+1 | 09:56 |
ajmitch | seb128 is in paris | 09:56 |
ajmitch | so they're all in the UK or europe | 09:56 |
imbrandon | figures | 09:56 |
Fujitsu | Oh, and we've got pitti. | 09:56 |
ajmitch | germany | 09:56 |
imbrandon | pitti is german | 09:56 |
Fujitsu | So, Germany, France, UK. All rather similar :-/ | 09:57 |
imbrandon | yup, all in EU | 09:57 |
ajmitch | and infinity was never really in any 1 .au timezone | 09:57 |
Fujitsu | Er? | 09:58 |
ajmitch | he kept odd hours | 09:58 |
Fujitsu | Hahah. | 09:58 |
imbrandon | kinda like me ;) | 09:58 |
Fujitsu | Hrm, so an archive admin is actually up. Impossible. | 09:59 |
ajmitch | yeah | 09:59 |
ajmitch | hardly impossible | 09:59 |
ajmitch | tollef is one of the married ones now :) | 09:59 |
Fujitsu | This is true. | 09:59 |
ajmitch | 21:59 < imbrandon> Mithrandir, pweeease and thank you :) | 10:01 |
ajmitch | sickening | 10:02 |
imbrandon | lol | 10:02 |
ajmitch | now I need a new f-spot | 10:03 |
Fujitsu | imbrandon, seems you were lucky and it got depwaited... Quite a lot seem to not, these days. | 10:03 |
imbrandon | yea | 10:03 |
ajmitch | imbrandon: need this for amarok? | 10:04 |
Fujitsu | ajmitch: What's this new F-Spot? | 10:04 |
ajmitch | Fujitsu: 0.3.3 | 10:04 |
imbrandon | ajmitch, yes | 10:04 |
ajmitch | 0.3.2 has a few bugs that are annoying | 10:04 |
Fujitsu | I noticed. | 10:04 |
imbrandon | actualy i needed that for libgpod 0.4.2 witch inturn i need for amarok | 10:04 |
ajmitch | I've been promised a new release before UVF | 10:04 |
Fujitsu | I've noticed it vanishes without a trace a little more than I'd expect. | 10:05 |
imbrandon | ajmitch, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuApps | 10:05 |
ajmitch | 0.3.3 is mainly just bugfixes | 10:05 |
ajmitch | I like having a friendly upstream | 10:05 |
ajmitch | who will adjust their releases to match ubuntu | 10:05 |
Fujitsu | A friendly upstream? Does such a thing exist? | 10:05 |
ajmitch | sure | 10:06 |
Fujitsu | That does sound ideal, ajmitch. | 10:06 |
imbrandon | Fujitsu, hehe yea konversation and amarok both talor to ubuntu releases | 10:06 |
imbrandon | ;) | 10:06 |
ajmitch | I've stayed with the main developer of another package I maintain, in melbourne | 10:06 |
imbrandon | well mostly | 10:06 |
ajmitch | as well as being good friends with some others | 10:06 |
Fujitsu | I've met a total of.... Zero FOSS developers in real life. | 10:07 |
ajmitch | Fujitsu: that's hard to believe still | 10:07 |
Fujitsu | No Ubuntuers or DDs either :-/ | 10:08 |
ajmitch | I thought you'd had at least 1 debian-melb meetup? | 10:08 |
Fujitsu | Nothing ever came of the one I could have attended, and I was at school for the other. | 10:08 |
ajmitch | even I've met more DDs in melbourne than you have :) | 10:08 |
Fujitsu | Haha. | 10:08 |
imbrandon | lol | 10:08 |
ajmitch | so next time I'm over I'll have to meetup | 10:08 |
imbrandon | we need more people in KC to be ubuntu/DD people | 10:08 |
imbrandon | chi seems to have alot and KC is bigger | 10:09 |
ajmitch | since I'll probably end up staying with my friend in ringwood | 10:09 |
Fujitsu | KC? | 10:09 |
imbrandon | kansas city | 10:09 |
Fujitsu | Ah. | 10:09 |
ajmitch | imbrandon: yeah, it sucks only have 5 (or is it 6?) DDs in this town | 10:09 |
Fujitsu | ajmitch, what is the population of said place? | 10:09 |
imbrandon | ajmitch, we have 0 and i'm the only ubuntu guy afaik | 10:09 |
ajmitch | 120K peopl | 10:09 |
Fujitsu | Not at all bad. | 10:09 |
ajmitch | yeah | 10:10 |
imbrandon | in a town of 2+ mil ( counting suburbs ) | 10:10 |
ajmitch | imbrandon: that's bad | 10:10 |
imbrandon | yea | 10:10 |
ajmitch | I'm the only ubuntu dev currently | 10:10 |
Fujitsu | We've got 3 (or perhaps 3.5) million people, quite a number of DDs, and one Ubuntu dev. | 10:10 |
imbrandon | hell our lug only has 20 or so peeps that show up regularly, we have more people at work that use linux than come to lug meetings | 10:10 |
Fujitsu | (plus infinity, but... he sort of counts) | 10:11 |
imbrandon | i need to check on the KC population , thats was purely an semi-educated guess | 10:11 |
ajmitch | ah, classic australian music on last.fm | 10:11 |
ajmitch | AC/DC | 10:11 |
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ajmitch | oh well | 10:12 |
imbrandon | ahh looks like 2.7 million in the actual city limits + more in the suburbs | 10:12 |
imbrandon | so i was a tad off | 10:13 |
imbrandon | probably closer to 3.5 all togather then | 10:13 |
ajmitch | not a small city then | 10:13 |
imbrandon | 2,744,687 | 10:13 |
imbrandon | nope not small, just suprisingly no DD's here afaik | 10:14 |
ajmitch | compared to dunedin, yeah | 10:14 |
imbrandon | wow someone bit my computer area meme kinda late on planet | 10:15 |
imbrandon | hehe | 10:15 |
ajmitch | haha | 10:20 |
ajmitch | I don't think I want to follow that meme :) | 10:20 |
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imbrandon | hehe | 10:20 |
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ajmitch | but I cheat since 1 monitor is hooked up to a dead box | 10:22 |
imbrandon | i have 2 monitors in my main work area | 10:23 |
imbrandon | one isnt hooked up atm | 10:23 |
imbrandon | ( the crt ) | 10:23 |
imbrandon | and my lappy off to the side but its not in the pic | 10:23 |
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imbrandon | hum | 10:25 |
ajmitch | yeah, but I like my 3200x1200 desktop :) | 10:26 |
imbrandon | someday i'll get another 22'' and run dual head | 10:27 |
imbrandon | wont be for a few more months though | 10:27 |
imbrandon | unless i get a raise | 10:27 |
imbrandon | ;) | 10:27 |
siretart | 3200x1200 is neat | 10:27 |
ajmitch | hey siretart | 10:28 |
siretart | at work, we have 1920x1200 desktops, I think | 10:28 |
siretart | huhu ajmitch | 10:28 |
imbrandon | heya siretart | 10:28 |
siretart | huhu imbrandon | 10:28 |
imbrandon | yea i run 4x 1600x1200 at work | 10:28 |
imbrandon | ( 4 x 17in lcd ) | 10:28 |
ajmitch | yeah I hate you now | 10:30 |
ajmitch | but that's ok | 10:30 |
siretart | lol | 10:30 |
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imbrandon | heh , lemme find some batteries and i'll take some pics of the DC | 10:31 |
imbrandon | i've been meaning to anyhow | 10:31 |
imbrandon | i have a cheap camera here but its dead | 10:32 |
ajmitch | you at work now? | 10:32 |
imbrandon | yea | 10:33 |
imbrandon | for 5 or so more hours | 10:33 |
imbrandon | its a slow night | 10:33 |
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imbrandon | ajmitch, http://www.imbrandon.com/misc/gsi/ | 10:43 |
imbrandon | err | 10:43 |
imbrandon | http://www.imbrandon.com/misc/gsi/workstation.jpg | 10:43 |
imbrandon | crappy pics but the camera here sucks | 10:44 |
imbrandon | worse than mine at home hehe | 10:44 |
imbrandon | but give you a rough idea of the DC | 10:45 |
imbrandon | gives* | 10:45 |
Fujitsu | imbrandon: I want one. :P | 10:48 |
siretart | quad head? | 10:49 |
imbrandon | siretart, two dual head nvida cards | 10:49 |
imbrandon | Fujitsu, one what ? | 10:49 |
Fujitsu | That setup. | 10:49 |
imbrandon | heh thats my work setup, i actualy like my home setup better for useability | 10:50 |
imbrandon | honestly two widescreens > 4 smaller ones | 10:51 |
siretart | imbrandon: what/where are you working? | 10:51 |
imbrandon | siretart, i work at one of the largest colo / managed hosting facilities in the US | 10:51 |
imbrandon | thus i get the rackspace and bandwidth for free for my buildfarm ( from yesterdays convo ) | 10:52 |
imbrandon | as an employyee perk | 10:52 |
imbrandon | http://www.gsihosting.com/clients/ <-- some of our customers | 10:53 |
imbrandon | siretart, ^^ | 10:53 |
siretart | impressive :) | 10:54 |
ajmitch | imbrandon: interesting setup | 10:54 |
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imbrandon | i'd take better pics of the actual racks but some have company logo's that we arent allowed via PCI to disclose etc | 10:55 |
imbrandon | and i'd get my arse chewed/fired | 10:56 |
imbrandon | ;) | 10:56 |
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Fujitsu | What do you actually do? | 10:56 |
imbrandon | Fujitsu, sysadmin for ubuntu/centos/solaris boxen | 10:57 |
imbrandon | for some of our managed clients and our company internal servers | 10:57 |
Fujitsu | Aha. | 10:57 |
Fujitsu | Other than the CentOS, that sounds good. | 10:57 |
imbrandon | yea the cent boxes will eventualy get phased out, but with over 1k in production it takes a while | 10:58 |
Fujitsu | Wow! | 10:58 |
Fujitsu | How many boxen do you have in total? | 10:58 |
imbrandon | between the two DC's and the offsite backup facility about 5 to 6 k | 10:58 |
ajmitch | a small number | 10:59 |
imbrandon | yea really not that many considering the stuff we do | 10:59 |
imbrandon | more and more they are getting virtualized | 10:59 |
imbrandon | we have a few esx servers now | 10:59 |
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imbrandon | hum, got quiet | 11:41 |
ajmitch | yep | 11:44 |
imbrandon | apt-cache search wildfire | 11:46 |
imbrandon | err | 11:46 |
imbrandon | hum | 11:46 |
ajmitch | heh | 11:46 |
ajmitch | apt-cache search life | 11:46 |
imbrandon | are there any jabber servers in the repos ? | 11:46 |
ajmitch | darn, can't install one | 11:46 |
ajmitch | sure there are | 11:47 |
imbrandon | wildfire dosent seem to be | 11:47 |
imbrandon | lol @ life | 11:47 |
ajmitch | jabberd2, ejabberd | 11:47 |
ajmitch | jabber | 11:47 |
=== imbrandon is considering putting up a free ubuntu'ish' jabber server | ||
imbrandon | like ubuntu-roxorz.tld or i-heart-ubuntu.tld | 11:48 |
imbrandon | or some such , just for fun | 11:48 |
Fujitsu | ejabberd works well, I use it on ubuntu.org.au. | 11:48 |
imbrandon | ;) | 11:49 |
imbrandon | hrm do jabber servers automaticly talk to one another ? or would i have to "peer" with like jabber.org or something ? | 11:51 |
imbrandon | e.g. if i set this up @whateverichoose.blah can still talk to other jabber service users like gmail and jabber.org{,.au} etc ? | 11:52 |
Fujitsu | Automagic. | 11:53 |
imbrandon | cool | 11:53 |
Fujitsu | (unless you disable it manually) | 11:53 |
imbrandon | hum could even through some kinda free webmail too i guess | 11:53 |
=== imbrandon ponders | ||
imbrandon | any sugestions ona catchy ubuntuish domain for free jabber/webmail for general users? | 11:54 |
Fujitsu | ubuntu.net! Almost definitely taken, though. | 11:54 |
imbrandon | maybe i should make a contest for the best name and give that person a bigger disk quota and pop3 access | 11:54 |
imbrandon | or something | 11:54 |
ajmitch | ubuntu-is-t3h-1337.net | 11:55 |
imbrandon | heh | 11:55 |
ajmitch | or whatever misspellings you can manage | 11:55 |
imbrandon | hehe | 11:56 |
imbrandon | umail.com ( like gmail ) , nah toooooo lame | 11:59 |
imbrandon | and not everyone would catch it i dont think | 11:59 |
imbrandon | ubumail. | 11:59 |
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imbrandon | hum ok if i do run a "contest" for a domain name , any sugestions on collecting the data ? i hate to have it all jumbled in say comments to a blogpost | 12:12 |
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imbrandon | later ajmitch | 12:19 |
zul | zulrocksyoursocksoff.net | 12:20 |
imbrandon | heh | 12:20 |
ajmitch | hah | 12:20 |
imbrandon | bddebianisagod.net | 12:21 |
imbrandon | ;) | 12:21 |
ajmitch | yeah, that may put a few people off | 12:21 |
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imbrandon | hehe SLEEP !! | 12:21 |
zul | this channel is logged isnt it ;) | 12:21 |
imbrandon | yea | 12:21 |
imbrandon | afaik all *ubuntu* are | 12:21 |
imbrandon | atleaste most | 12:21 |
imbrandon | irunubuntu.com | 12:23 |
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cbx33 | nn ajmitch | 12:27 |
imbrandon | heya cbx33 | 12:29 |
cbx33 | hi imbrandon | 12:29 |
cbx33 | howz it going? | 12:29 |
imbrandon | good good | 12:29 |
cbx33 | excellent | 12:29 |
cbx33 | busy busy I take it? | 12:29 |
imbrandon | finished stage one of the motu farm | 12:29 |
imbrandon | yea lately really busy | 12:29 |
imbrandon | and thinking about a new project heheh | 12:30 |
imbrandon | as seen above | 12:30 |
cbx33 | awesome | 12:30 |
cbx33 | I only saw it from thinking of a contest for a doamin name ;) | 12:31 |
imbrandon | 04:54 < imbrandon> any sugestions ona catchy ubuntuish domain for free jabber/webmail for general users? | 12:31 |
imbrandon | ;) | 12:31 |
cbx33 | ahhh nice | 12:31 |
zul | meh...fsf sucks.. | 12:32 |
cbx33 | jabuntmail | 12:32 |
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cbx33 | heh | 12:32 |
imbrandon | ;) | 12:32 |
cbx33 | yeh....I clearly havn't woken up yet | 12:32 |
imbrandon | i-r-heart-ubuntu.net | 12:32 |
cbx33 | hehe | 12:33 |
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cbx33 | imbrandon, you're a KDE dude | 12:33 |
cbx33 | how hard is it to start deving gui apps for the kde environment | 12:34 |
=== Hobbsee waves | ||
imbrandon | heya hoora_214 | 12:34 |
imbrandon | err Hobbsee | 12:34 |
imbrandon | damn tab button | 12:34 |
imbrandon | lol | 12:34 |
imbrandon | cbx33, quite easy if you go the pyqt route, basic apps in less than a day | 12:34 |
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cbx33 | hi Hobbsee | 12:35 |
Hobbsee | hehe | 12:35 |
Hobbsee | hey cbx33 :) | 12:35 |
imbrandon | s/pyqt/pykde also | 12:35 |
cbx33 | imbrandon, see I've been working on TCM recently | 12:35 |
cbx33 | and we split it into front end backend | 12:35 |
cbx33 | so that we could develop a KDE front end | 12:35 |
cbx33 | at the moment no one has stepped forward | 12:35 |
cbx33 | so I'm thinking I may do it | 12:35 |
cbx33 | obviously not this release | 12:36 |
gnomefreak | what do i doo with this error? its during pbuiilder build. checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! | 12:36 |
imbrandon | right on, thats what ubiguity etc does, pygtk / py{qt,kde} | 12:36 |
cbx33 | I'd not have time but maybe next - is it clode to pygtk? | 12:36 |
cbx33 | s/clode/close | 12:36 |
imbrandon | yea | 12:36 |
cbx33 | same method of working? | 12:36 |
cbx33 | signal handlers etc? | 12:36 |
imbrandon | yup | 12:36 |
imbrandon | just no .glade's, use qtdesigner to make .ui's then pyuic to convert them to .py and off you go | 12:37 |
imbrandon | or import kde and the .ui directly and no pyuic needed | 12:37 |
imbrandon | depends on how you like to work | 12:37 |
cbx33 | yeh | 12:38 |
cbx33 | well i use glade quite a lot | 12:38 |
cbx33 | but also do a lot of it by hand | 12:38 |
StevenK | imbrandon: Is the ppc build.i.c up? | 12:38 |
cbx33 | like signal connecting that kinda thing | 12:38 |
imbrandon | if you use glade to do your pygtk apps , qt designer and pyqt/pykde will be right at home to you | 12:38 |
cbx33 | what's the diff with pykde and pyqt? | 12:38 |
imbrandon | StevenK, not yet, i have to reload it, i fubard it last night | 12:38 |
StevenK | imbrandon: Bozo! :-P | 12:39 |
imbrandon | cbx33, pyqt is pure qt and pykde has the kde extensions | 12:39 |
imbrandon | see this is where gnome people get confused | 12:39 |
imbrandon | ;) | 12:39 |
cbx33 | hehe | 12:39 |
cbx33 | indeed | 12:39 |
imbrandon | ok think about it like this , gtk != gnome | 12:39 |
cbx33 | we gnomeians are simple folk | 12:39 |
imbrandon | qt != kde | 12:39 |
imbrandon | qt is just the widgets , kde is the widgest plus more kde specific widgets ( like html widgets etc ) that are qt overrides and plus some other nongui libs | 12:40 |
imbrandon | kinda like the relationship between gtk and gnomelibs | 12:41 |
StevenK | imbrandon: Re-read that "qt is just..." sentence and cringe... | 12:41 |
imbrandon | whereas gtk != gnome but gnome == gtk+++ | 12:41 |
imbrandon | StevenK, hehe, its hard to explain, but i think he see's what i'm getting aty | 12:42 |
imbrandon | s/y// | 12:42 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: or glade and gtk? | 12:42 |
Hobbsee | maybe? | 12:42 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: where's amarok, btw? | 12:42 |
imbrandon | nah, glade is qt designer of gtk | 12:42 |
imbrandon | Hobbsee, sitting on my hdd , i had to wait till mith pushed libgpod 0.4.2 | 12:43 |
imbrandon | it will get uploaded this morning | 12:43 |
imbrandon | plus i couldent upload it before the 4th tech anyhow since thats when they will release it "publicly" | 12:43 |
imbrandon | :) | 12:43 |
imbrandon | but its built and ready to go | 12:43 |
imbrandon | built* | 12:44 |
imbrandon | err | 12:44 |
imbrandon | nvm | 12:44 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: did it push correctly? | 12:44 |
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imbrandon | did what push correc5tly? | 12:44 |
Hobbsee | libgpod | 12:44 |
imbrandon | yea about an hour ago it did | 12:44 |
imbrandon | its built now as of 5am my time | 12:44 |
imbrandon | thus i'll upload amarok 1.4.5 here in a few ( but i cant backport it or announce it for 18+ hours because amarok team hasent officialy released it yet ) | 12:45 |
imbrandon | and they tend to get mad when that happens | 12:45 |
imbrandon | ;) | 12:45 |
cbx33 | i get it imbrandon | 12:45 |
Hobbsee | cool | 12:45 |
cbx33 | thanks | 12:45 |
Hobbsee | yeah, but you can give us prerelease debs for testing. | 12:46 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: you fixed teh bugs assigned to me, presumably? | 12:46 |
imbrandon | they are in the results dir on build.imbrandon.com | 12:46 |
imbrandon | Hobbsee, most of them, i'll get the rest before i upload | 12:46 |
Hobbsee | cool | 12:46 |
Hobbsee | sarah@LongPointyStick:~$ ssh imbrandon | 12:46 |
Hobbsee | ssh: connect to host build.imbrandon.com port 5022: Connection refused | 12:46 |
imbrandon | not 5022 | 12:47 |
imbrandon | just 22 | 12:47 |
imbrandon | its a brand new box | 12:47 |
imbrandon | new rules , accounts from LP etc etc etc | 12:47 |
imbrandon | i need to write up some docs about it | 12:47 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: nice of you to actually...you know...tell the people who have shells on it :) | 12:47 |
imbrandon | maybe i'll do that today and email them to -devel | 12:47 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: somerville's been wanting to know waht's happening | 12:48 |
StevenK | Like sysadmins notify people. | 12:48 |
Hobbsee | heh | 12:48 |
imbrandon | yea all of ubuntu{,-core}-dev has accounts | 12:48 |
imbrandon | and somerville isnt a motu yet | 12:48 |
imbrandon | so no account for him , got to limit it somehow | 12:48 |
Hobbsee | ahh, i thought that you said you had given him an account. or that was his belief, anyway | 12:49 |
imbrandon | i did on the old old old voyager box | 12:49 |
imbrandon | not since i made the "farm" | 12:49 |
imbrandon | this one automaticly gets the ssh keys from LP for those groups and makes acounts based on your LP name | 12:50 |
imbrandon | and imports new keys every few hours | 12:50 |
imbrandon | so less "admin" for me | 12:50 |
imbrandon | ;) | 12:50 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: precisely *which* results dir? the one i was expecting has nothing | 12:50 |
imbrandon | /storage/pbuilders/feisty/results | 12:51 |
imbrandon | if its not there i need to make a new run of it | 12:51 |
Hobbsee | hobbsee@aurora:/storage/pbuilders/feisty/result$ ls -la | 12:51 |
imbrandon | i need to make a new run of it anyhow | 12:51 |
Hobbsee | total 0 | 12:51 |
Hobbsee | drwxrwxr-t 2 imbrandon imbrandon 48 2007-02-02 08:31 . | 12:51 |
Hobbsee | drwxr-xr-x 6 imbrandon imbrandon 208 2007-02-02 07:20 .. | 12:51 |
imbrandon | actualy | 12:51 |
Hobbsee | seems os | 12:51 |
imbrandon | yea | 12:51 |
Hobbsee | *so | 12:51 |
imbrandon | i'll make a rebuild here in a few minutes then | 12:51 |
Hobbsee | grab the bugs assigned to me when you do :) | 12:51 |
imbrandon | i will | 12:51 |
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gnomefreak | these are the last lines of sudo pbuilder-feisty build ../*.dsc. http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/338389 is there something im missing? | 12:52 |
Hobbsee | !xincludes | 12:52 |
ubotu | When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev xlibs-static-dev xorg-dev | 12:52 |
imbrandon | looks like its missing a build-dep gnomefreak | 12:52 |
Hobbsee | gnomefreak: ^ | 12:52 |
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Hobbsee | gnomefreak: but see teh description of it first | 12:53 |
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gnomefreak | ok ill try it again. ive been missing depends all over the place so ive been adding them one by one and the errors go away :) | 12:54 |
Hobbsee | yep :) | 12:55 |
imbrandon | Hobbsee, new test build started so you can play with it, but not all the fixes are in there yet | 01:05 |
imbrandon | i'll let you know when its done | 01:05 |
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Hobbsee | imbrandon: cool, okay | 01:05 |
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gnomefreak | in the build depends do i libart2 and libart2-dev or can i just go with all -dev packages and forget the non -dev ones? | 01:18 |
gnomefreak | libart2 was example i already fixed the libart depedns | 01:20 |
StevenK | You should just be able to get away with the -dev packages, since they mostly all depend on the library packages anyway | 01:21 |
gnomefreak | ok cool if it fails to build this time i wil replace all reg. packages and just use the -dev ones (does this go with libc6 also? | 01:21 |
StevenK | You do not need to Build-Depend on libc6-dev | 01:22 |
gnomefreak | k | 01:22 |
StevenK | If it's in build-essential, don't add it to Build-Depends | 01:22 |
gnomefreak | k :) | 01:22 |
Fujitsu | siretart, around? | 01:31 |
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imbrandon | wow the FSF gonna screw Novell ? | 01:42 |
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phanatic | imbrandon: i hope they won't. that would be stupid | 01:46 |
gnomefreak | fsf? | 01:51 |
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phanatic | gnomefreak: have a look at /. | 01:52 |
imbrandon | free software foundation , e.g. the copyright holder to all GNU software | 01:52 |
imbrandon | gnomefreak, ^^ | 01:52 |
gnomefreak | ah | 01:52 |
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imbrandon | phanatic, actualy i think it would be fantastic, make a deal with the devil and lay in your own bed after its made | 01:53 |
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imbrandon | gnomefreak, screwed again ? your still being screwed every day that goes by that they havent abolished the deal with MS | 01:54 |
gnomefreak | true | 01:55 |
zul | meh...politics | 02:03 |
imbrandon | http://youtube.com/watch?v=FVbf9tOGwno | 02:08 |
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gnomefreak | should i try updating pbuilder to fix the makefile.in error above | 02:11 |
gnomefreak | lmao @ that link | 02:13 |
elkbuntu | lol | 02:16 |
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gnomefreak | ok found a makefile.in in the Cmake dir. can i just mkdir /path/scribus/doc and copy the makefile.in to the new doc folder? | 02:21 |
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gnomefreak | the common mistake page doesnt even list this issue. but i think im gonna eat breakfast than figure the makefile issue out | 02:29 |
zakame | evening all | 02:29 |
zakame | can someone check out my update on wlassistant on revu? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4252 | 02:30 |
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cbx33 | hi does anyone know the bug number of the bug which causes the d-i to crash when scanning for cd rom | 02:41 |
cbx33 | I know I have to turn off an option on the kernel line | 02:41 |
cbx33 | but I can't remember what it is | 02:41 |
cbx33 | something/pcmcia=false i think | 02:42 |
cbx33 | anyone shed any light? | 02:42 |
phanatic | cbx33: it's mentioned in the herd3 announcement | 02:42 |
cbx33 | ahh thanks phanatic | 02:42 |
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zakame | hi allee | 02:43 |
allee | zakame: hi, news from wlassistant? :) | 02:43 |
zakame | I've prepared the new wlassistant, its on revu: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4252 | 02:43 |
allee | zakame: cool!! I'll have a look | 02:44 |
zakame | thanks :) not much has changed, although I've to edit the interfaces diff a bit | 02:46 |
zakame | also I've still to check if my run-parts integration is correct, although it seems fine when I tested it | 02:46 |
allee | zakame: I've to find a AP without WPA before I can test | 02:48 |
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gnomefreak | pbuilder creates makefiles.* but doesnt create makefile.in. is there something that I and doing wrong or is this pbuilder. here is the error i get: http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/338507 | 03:34 |
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zakame | gnomefreak: did you try rebuilding the autotools stuff? | 03:35 |
gnomefreak | i just ran update for pbuilder and trying it again but startange feeling updating pbuilder isnt gonna help | 03:35 |
gnomefreak | zakame: no how do i go about that? | 03:35 |
zakame | gnomefreak: no, I mean did you update the package-to-be-built's autotools stuff (touching configure.in, Makefile.am, etc) before trying to build? | 03:37 |
gnomefreak | no | 03:37 |
gnomefreak | i was building this for the most part from the packaging guide and it didnt say anything about that | 03:39 |
zakame | oh | 03:40 |
zakame | can you paste a full buildlog, I mean the stuff right before your previous paste? | 03:41 |
gnomefreak | yeah it should be done soon the other one is lost a little further up from where i gave you | 03:42 |
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gnomefreak | zakame: http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/338519 if i need to go higher up let me know i just changes the scrollback and wont let me go much further without restarting term | 03:46 |
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zakame | gnomefreak: the trick is in `pbuilder ... 2>&1 | tee ../buildlog` ;) | 03:47 |
zakame | and pasting ../buildlog | 03:47 |
gnomefreak | im gonna have to rebuild this i think im looking at it and there is a typo on one of the file names that i fixed and pbuilder doesnt loo like it changed with my change | 03:47 |
gnomefreak | ./scribbus-ng-debhelper should only have 1 b in scribus | 03:48 |
gnomefreak | unless you see something else | 03:50 |
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gnomefreak | thats exactly what it is | 03:52 |
gnomefreak | ill rebuild it from scratch and see what happens thank you | 03:52 |
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bddebian | Heya gang | 04:17 |
zakame | yo bddebian! | 04:17 |
bddebian | Hi zakame | 04:18 |
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imbrandon | heya bddebian | 04:31 |
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bddebian | Hi imbrandon | 04:32 |
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gnomefreak | damn typo caused issues for 18 hours *slaps self hard* | 04:50 |
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zakame | gnomefreak: awww | 04:56 |
gnomefreak | in about an hour we will find out if it fails again. | 04:57 |
zakame | takes that long to build? | 04:57 |
gnomefreak | zakame: i cleared pbuilder and ther eare alot of depends | 04:57 |
gnomefreak | there are | 04:57 |
zakame | ah | 04:58 |
cbx33 | eeek | 04:58 |
cbx33 | what was the typo in gnomefreak ? | 04:58 |
gnomefreak | 118 of them | 04:58 |
cbx33 | dang it | 04:59 |
gnomefreak | cbx33: scribbus instead of scribus one of the commands i ran (thinking dh_make) put that typo in control and changelog | 04:59 |
cbx33 | noooo | 05:00 |
gnomefreak | if i can find a way to shortent he depends i will think about it | 05:00 |
gnomefreak | it may have been when i renamed the file to -debhelper but its all fixed now for the time being | 05:01 |
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gnomefreak | such pretty colors when there are no errors :) | 05:23 |
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cbx33 | gnomefreak, pretty colours? | 05:53 |
cbx33 | can someone help me out with mychroot? I't not able to access the internet at all | 05:54 |
gnomefreak | yeah pink green blue | 05:54 |
cbx33 | pretty colours for what? | 05:54 |
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gnomefreak | while its building (maybe plugins) | 05:54 |
cbx33 | oooh....you got me interested now ;) | 05:55 |
cbx33 | hehe | 05:55 |
gnomefreak | lol | 05:55 |
gnomefreak | you mean this isnt normal? | 05:55 |
cbx33 | i have proc mounted in the fstab | 05:55 |
cbx33 | but my chroot still isn't accessing the internet | 05:55 |
cbx33 | any ideas | 05:55 |
cbx33 | gnomefreak, I've never seen it | 05:55 |
cbx33 | ahhh | 05:56 |
cbx33 | think i got it | 05:56 |
gnomefreak | doesnt seem so colorful the second time around :( | 05:57 |
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cbx33 | i wanna see | 05:57 |
cbx33 | :( | 05:57 |
ScottK | cbx33: I haven't had to change mounts when I did a chroot. | 05:57 |
cbx33 | it was my resolv.conf | 05:57 |
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gnomefreak | i forgot to log the build the first time so im doing it again so we will see if it gets pretty | 05:58 |
ScottK | Ah | 05:58 |
ScottK | So you have it working now? | 05:58 |
cbx33 | yup | 05:58 |
ScottK | OK. | 05:58 |
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gnomefreak | ScottK: i dont know perl either | 05:59 |
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gnomefreak | people* | 05:59 |
cbx33 | gnomefreak, i'm curoius how are you/where are you building | 05:59 |
gnomefreak | in pbuilder | 05:59 |
cbx33 | i don't get pretty colours | 06:00 |
gnomefreak | wonders if i have a term log | 06:00 |
cbx33 | gnome/kde? | 06:00 |
gnomefreak | gnome | 06:00 |
cbx33 | gnome-terminal? | 06:00 |
gnomefreak | yes | 06:00 |
cbx33 | I don;t get pretty colours | 06:01 |
cbx33 | must be a shell thing | 06:01 |
cbx33 | i pbuild all the time | 06:01 |
gnomefreak | it might be | 06:01 |
gnomefreak | this time no colors | 06:03 |
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cbx33 | are you pbuilding in feisty#? | 06:04 |
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gnomefreak | cbx33: yes | 06:04 |
cbx33 | ah | 06:04 |
cbx33 | maybe fesity pbuilder has colours | 06:04 |
gnomefreak | next one i build we will find out. this one i hoping is for the most part done | 06:05 |
cbx33 | ok | 06:06 |
imbrandon | i build in feisty and have no colours :( | 06:10 |
imbrandon | anyhow bbiab | 06:10 |
cbx33 | gnomefreak, where did you get these pretty colours from | 06:13 |
cbx33 | we must fid out | 06:13 |
gnomefreak | no sure | 06:13 |
gnomefreak | maybe terminal settings | 06:13 |
cbx33 | it is my lifes mission | 06:13 |
cbx33 | u use standard | 06:13 |
cbx33 | gnome-terminal | 06:13 |
cbx33 | ? | 06:13 |
gnomefreak | i dont think so | 06:13 |
cbx33 | oh what you use? | 06:13 |
gnomefreak | ill post the conf | 06:13 |
cbx33 | heheh | 06:14 |
cbx33 | sorry | 06:14 |
cbx33 | just realluy interested | 06:14 |
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phanatic | hey coNP | 06:14 |
coNP | hey phanatic & all! | 06:15 |
gnomefreak | cbx33: http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/338701 | 06:16 |
cbx33 | thanks | 06:16 |
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gnomefreak | np | 06:17 |
cbx33 | though I can't see anything relating directly to pbuilder there | 06:18 |
gnomefreak | nope | 06:18 |
cbx33 | was it pbuider or make output ? | 06:19 |
gnomefreak | it was pbuilder-feisty <command> | 06:20 |
cbx33 | is pbuilder-fesity an alias? | 06:21 |
Nafallo | no, it's a small script | 06:21 |
gnomefreak | its Laser's script iirc | 06:22 |
cbx33 | ahh | 06:22 |
gnomefreak | someone care to tell me if this is bad? http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/338705 | 06:22 |
Nafallo | no | 06:22 |
gnomefreak | those are ok? | 06:22 |
Nafallo | it's included in pbuilder | 06:22 |
gnomefreak | oh | 06:22 |
Nafallo | /usr/share/doc/pbuilder/examples/ or so | 06:23 |
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imbrandon | gnomefreak, in other words delete debian/*.{ex,EX} | 06:42 |
imbrandon | and fix your X build deps | 06:42 |
gnomefreak | oh i can cool :) | 06:42 |
imbrandon | ;) | 06:42 |
gnomefreak | x build deps? | 06:42 |
imbrandon | # | 06:42 |
imbrandon | E: scribus-ng-debhelper source: build-depends-on-obsolete-package build-depends: xlibs-dev | 06:42 |
imbrandon | # | 06:43 |
imbrandon | N: | 06:43 |
imbrandon | # | 06:43 |
imbrandon | N: The package build-depends on a package that has been superseded. | 06:43 |
imbrandon | # | 06:43 |
gnomefreak | ah ok i can work that out | 06:43 |
imbrandon | N: | 06:43 |
imbrandon | # | 06:43 |
imbrandon | E: scribus-ng-debhelper source: build-depends-on-x-metapackage build-depends: xorg-dev | 06:43 |
imbrandon | # | 06:43 |
imbrandon | N: | 06:43 |
imbrandon | # | 06:43 |
imbrandon | N: Packages must not build-depend on X Window System metapackages. | 06:43 |
imbrandon | # | 06:43 |
imbrandon | N: | 06:43 |
imbrandon | # | 06:43 |
Nafallo | imbrandon: pastebin next time. oki? | 06:43 |
imbrandon | N: The metapackages xorg, xorg-dev, x-window-system, x-window-system-dev, | 06:43 |
imbrandon | # | 06:43 |
imbrandon | N: and x-window-system-core exist only for the benefit of users and | 06:43 |
imbrandon | # | 06:43 |
imbrandon | N: should not be used in package build dependencies. | 06:43 |
imbrandon | # | 06:43 |
imbrandon | N:errr | 06:43 |
imbrandon | whoops | 06:43 |
imbrandon | but yea , that ^^ | 06:44 |
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Nafallo | :-P | 06:44 |
gnomefreak | will look into it today ty :) | 06:44 |
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gnomefreak | well i dont see any depends errors :) its building so we shall see | 07:17 |
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gnomefreak | now i only have one warning. if someone gets time how do i fix this or does it need to be fixed at all? http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/338811 | 07:38 |
ScottK | Would you pastebind debian/changelog? | 07:39 |
ScottK | *pastebin | 07:40 |
ScottK | gnomefreak: ^^^ | 07:40 |
gnomefreak | yep | 07:44 |
gnomefreak | http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/338820 | 07:45 |
gnomefreak | ScottK: thats the changlog :( | 07:45 |
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gnomefreak | i didnt know if i should add ubuntu's changelog to it | 07:46 |
gnomefreak | oops that should be sat | 07:46 |
gnomefreak | but i doubt that s the issue | 07:46 |
crimsun | you're probably missing the orig.tar.gz | 07:46 |
crimsun | where's the upstream tarball? | 07:47 |
geser | gnomefreak: what's the filename for the orig.tar.gz? | 07:47 |
gnomefreak | ah let me see | 07:47 |
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gnomefreak | its in the folder i made for building this and its called scribus-ng_1.3.3.7.dfsg.orig.tar.gz | 07:48 |
gnomefreak | folder i made so i didnt clutter up ~/ | 07:48 |
crimsun | that's precisely why you're getting the error. | 07:49 |
crimsun | note the name of the source package in debian/changelog | 07:49 |
crimsun | then compare that with the name of your orig.tar.gz | 07:49 |
gnomefreak | but the guide told me to add -debhelper to it | 07:50 |
gnomefreak | oh the -1 | 07:50 |
gnomefreak | ok removed the -1 from the end is that all? | 07:50 |
crimsun | no, it's the part in the orig.tar.gz before the _ | 07:50 |
crimsun | your changelog entry uses scribus-ng-debhelper | 07:51 |
gnomefreak | k | 07:51 |
crimsun | therefore your orig.tar.gz must be named scribus-ng-debhelper_1.3.3.7.dfsg.orig.tar.gz | 07:51 |
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crimsun | I'm not convinced, however, that's what you want. What are you attempting? | 07:51 |
gnomefreak | ok can i just rename it? | 07:51 |
crimsun | Are you generating a new binary package from the scribus-ng source package? | 07:52 |
gnomefreak | bulding this package since ours is a lower version | 07:52 |
gnomefreak | yes | 07:52 |
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crimsun | ok, so no, you're not generating a new binary package from the scribus-ng source package; instead you're generating a newer upstream version of the source package. | 07:52 |
gnomefreak | oh thats not good | 07:52 |
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crimsun | I'm pretty certain that's what you want, in fact. | 07:53 |
crimsun | however-- | 07:53 |
geser | gnomefreak: take the current package in Ubuntu and uupdate to the new upstream version | 07:54 |
gnomefreak | so instead of building it in debian dir build it in ubuntu dir? | 07:54 |
crimsun | if you're targeting feisty, use what geser stated, or (and this is preferred) file a sync request against feisty's current scribus-ng source package requesting a sync from Debian unstable/main | 07:54 |
gnomefreak | i thought that was only for merges | 07:55 |
geser | Debian has a newer version? | 07:55 |
geser | than sync from it | 07:55 |
crimsun | use https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/scribus-ng/+filebug , and follow https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2006-August/000181.html | 07:56 |
crimsun | afterward, subscribe the ubuntu-universe-sponsors LP team | 07:56 |
gnomefreak | k | 07:57 |
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gnomefreak | they want the changelog in the ubuntu debian dir. right? | 08:04 |
geser | for the sync request? | 08:06 |
gnomefreak | yes | 08:06 |
geser | copy all new changelog entries (from the Debian package) after 1.3.3.6.dfsg-1 | 08:07 |
gnomefreak | there wasnt any | 08:07 |
geser | http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/s/scribus-ng/current/changelog | 08:07 |
gnomefreak | come to this about it there had to be | 08:07 |
gnomefreak | ty | 08:08 |
geser | you need to copy the changelog entry for 1.3.3.7.dfsg-1 | 08:08 |
gnomefreak | ah oops | 08:08 |
geser | that's the only one after the version which is currently in feisty | 08:11 |
geser | you may want to test in a pbuilder if the package from Debian builds on Ubuntu | 08:12 |
gnomefreak | i had it already just had to look for it | 08:12 |
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gnomefreak | its done. i uploaded the whole file just incase they needed more | 08:14 |
Adri2000 | geser: can you look at this sync request https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/opencv/+bug/83086 ? there is an ubuntu change to drop, but I think we should rather keep it, what do you think? | 08:16 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 83086 in opencv "[Sync Request] opencv (1.0.0-1) from debian experimental/main to universe" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 08:16 |
geser | currenty looking at it | 08:17 |
Adri2000 | the change is: | 08:18 |
Adri2000 | -Replaces: python2.3-opencv (<= 0.9.7-3) | 08:18 |
Adri2000 | +Replaces: python2.3-opencv (<= 0.9.7-3), python2.4-opencv (<= 0.9.7-3) | 08:18 |
Adri2000 | and same with Conflicts: | 08:18 |
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geser | Adri2000: it needs to be merged | 08:22 |
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geser | gnomefreak: you should add the *new* changelog entry not the ones we already have | 08:39 |
geser | gnomefreak: I've added the missing parts and ACKed it | 08:39 |
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ajmitch | morning | 08:52 |
geser | hi ajmitch | 08:52 |
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gnomefreak | thank you geser | 10:37 |
geser | np | 10:40 |
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Adri2000 | geser: I will upload the opencv merge, ok? | 10:41 |
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Adri2000 | and also, I will upload mozilla-stumbleupon (merge) | 10:47 |
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geser | Adri2000: it's ok with me | 10:48 |
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LaserJock | sure is busy around here | 11:17 |
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TheMuso | Hey MOTUs. | 11:34 |
geser | hi TheMuso | 11:35 |
LaserJock | hi TheMuso | 11:38 |
TheMuso | Hey LaserJock. Was the conference successful? | 11:38 |
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LaserJock | pretty much | 11:42 |
LaserJock | people seemed to like my poster ok | 11:43 |
LaserJock | and I got some potential postdoc contacts | 11:43 |
nixternal | LaserJock: latex question for you | 12:06 |
nixternal | in order to fix this bug for Plucker documentation, it has to build .tex files | 12:06 |
nixternal | and also in the configure.in I noticed latex2html | 12:06 |
nixternal | if I was to depend on latex2html it in turn depends on tetex*. | 12:07 |
nixternal | and this will build out the tex files. do you know of any "shortcuts" as the tetex-* downloads are fairly large | 12:08 |
nixternal | for a depend | 12:08 |
nixternal | actually, probably wouldn't be so bad but the us.archive suck for me | 12:08 |
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