[12:18] in making a control file the part depends: $(shlibs:depends) i would leave $(shlibs: than list the build depends after that) and what would i put between each depend [12:19] is this what it should look like? Depends: ${shlibs:automake1.9 build-essential cvs libpango1.0-dev libgtk2.0-dev libgconf2-dev libglitz-glx-dev librsvg2-dev checkinstall libglade2-dev libxcomposite-dev libtool libgtop2-dev} [12:19] no [12:20] :( [12:21] gnomefreak: pick any non-complex package to see how is should look like [12:21] gnomefreak: you have a line starting with Build-Depends which lists all needed package to build [12:22] and you have a line Depends for each package stating the runtime depends [12:22] not from what im reading :( someone might want to change the guide than? [12:23] the value ${shlibs:depends} gets filled during the build by some debhelper script [12:23] oh [12:24] so you get the current dependency automatically and don't need to do it everytime manually === lukaswayne9 [n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:27] ok i see where it gets the depends from. the file im scared to death to make === gnomefreak wonders why noone ever built this for debian :( === rexbron [n=rexbron@206-248-153-124.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:28] what's "this"? [12:28] gnomefreak: why are you trying to package? [12:28] (and your checkinstall is showing.) [12:28] yeah i removed all that checkinstall was a mistake [12:29] ah i know wher ei can get the files from and just edit them as needed (that might work for the rules file) [12:30] heh, you should try cdbs. [12:31] gnomefreak: look if there is a package similar to what you want packaged and spy there :) === Weems [n=frodo@unaffiliated/weems] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:31] im looking for it atm [12:32] good thing its not going into ubuntu repos :) === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PriceChild [n=pricechi@unix0.york.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp28-178.lns1.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nafallo_ [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rrittenhouse [n=tad@cpe-76-188-35-66.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:50] Hobbsee! [01:50] Hobbsee!!!111!!ONE [01:52] TheMuso! === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:53] hey === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:54] Hi zul. [01:56] hey Fujitsu! hey zul! [01:57] hey Hobbsee how goes the stick? [01:59] the stick goes :) === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:11] in the control file section is the repo that the package is in right? [02:11] Heya gang [02:11] uh, no. doesnt say at all, actually [02:11] gnomefreak: 6 [02:11] gnomefreak: ^ [02:12] it says Section: unknown should that be changed? [02:13] gnomefreak: what's the package? [02:13] scribus-mg [02:13] ng [02:14] in show it says universe/graphics [02:14] check the debian maintainers guide - it's sections like kde, gnome, etc [02:14] ah. === Hobbsee shrugs [02:14] could be what it's supposed to be [02:14] ok makes sence [02:16] gnomefreak: The archive admins add the universe/, so you just need the section. [02:16] ah ok [02:17] universe is the component, graphics is the section. You only need the section. [02:17] cool :) [02:20] w00t we're under 20 new merges :-) [02:23] Yay! [02:23] Better than Edgy, at any rate. === Fujitsu reduces the number further. [02:23] (although I presume a number of them have sync requests filed) [02:24] Not too many that are left I don't think. Though I know maildir-bulletin does ;-) === ademan [n=dan@h-67-101-215-128.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:26] 4 of the new ones need no action, as they were fake syncs due to stuffed Debian versioning. [02:26] So we're down to 14 or so. [02:27] xbvl is unbuildable afaict [02:27] Unless we bring back libGLw [02:27] AFAIK too. [02:27] Yep. [02:27] We need a comments field :( [02:28] Yep [02:28] We should have one on our own MoM for Feisty+1, so it's just a short-term problem. [02:30] Fujitsu: our own one? [02:30] anyoen interested in updating mplayer, btw? [02:30] Hobbsee, yes, it is planned to have our own. [02:30] Hobbsee, I might take a look, if it's not too horrible. [02:30] Fujitsu: neat :) [02:30] Fujitsu: okay [02:32] c/me prepares to go indoor rock climbing. [02:32] TheMuso: nice!!! [02:32] morning all [02:32] Heya zakame [02:32] TheMuso: that's rocking [02:32] yo bddebian! [02:32] zakame: haha yeah. [02:38] Fujitsu: looking into it now [02:38] Hobbsee, I am too. [02:40] Any other nice new upstream versions we want? === TheMuso heads out. LSR can wait. :) [02:40] Fujitsu: make sure you grab that patch for the vulnerability, too [02:43] crap so close [02:43] i realize this is off topic but can anyone PM me and help me with the ATI drivers? #ubuntu is being useless [02:44] how do i get depends inside pbuilder [02:44] gnomefreak: build whatever you're trying to, it'll fail in configure? [02:45] yes missing a lib [02:45] gnomefreak: hrm? your debian/control should have Build-Depend: ListOfPackagesNeededToBuild [02:45] it does ill check to see if it has libart [02:47] note you'll have to dpkg-buildpackage again for those changes to take effect [02:47] i running debuild -S again [02:48] That'll do too. [02:48] than the pbuilder command [02:48] what's the difference between dpkg-buildpackage and debuild? [02:48] Not much [02:49] any advantages one way or the other? [02:49] isnt debuild used only with debhelper? === gnomefreak new [02:49] i know i've used debhelper with dpkg-buildpackage, so i dunno [02:49] no, both use debhelper [02:49] debuild requires devscripts installed [02:51] Do we usually complete all the merges? [02:52] yay its installing them [02:53] somerville32, not as far as I know... But we can get very close, and we've got more time now. [02:53] Fujitsu, I guess my real question is, "Are we doing good this release?" [02:53] freeze's on 15th right? [02:54] i guess since its still failing on libart i should add libart-2.0-2-dev packages too? [02:54] zakame, UVF is the 8th. [02:54] somerville32, better than Edgy, I think. [02:54] oh, thanks [02:55] it doesnt matter how many time i run debuild right? [02:56] gnomefreak, You need to run it to rebuild the source package [02:56] but running it 3 times isnt gonna make 3 sources is it? [02:56] No [02:56] It overwrites it [02:56] ok cool [03:04] gnomefreak: yeah, you need the -dev package. [03:04] i took most from build-dep scribus-ng :) [03:04] so far so good [03:05] im kind of scared of lintian [03:06] oh yeah its grabbing alot of packages now. im betting that part is right now [03:07] Fujitsu: fails on --enable-vortis, if you havent already found out [03:08] I'm still checking-out the bzr branch. [03:08] bah. didnt even know there was one. [03:08] In the README in the old source package, it says there is. [03:08] And a good thing to. [03:08] *too [03:08] bzr-maintained packages are goooood. [03:09] hehe :) [03:09] (especially when there's a fairly large delta) [03:12] Why is bzr so slow!? [03:13] I thought you was praising it? :P [03:13] It is good, but rather slow. [03:13] And I note that Debian now has a mplayer package. === Fujitsu looks. [03:13] Fujitsu: because it's not written for speed? :-) [03:14] oh, amenucc's === Fujitsu looks to see if we can sync/merge to that. [03:15] Fujitsu: they have probably thrown out most of the stuff people want... [03:15] <_jaldhar> Anyone here going to ubucon? [03:15] This is true; I just noticed that it was in main. [03:16] Is debian using python 2.5? [03:16] So, stuff Debian in this case. [03:16] Fujitsu: better to keep ours and keep it up-to-date I think :-) [03:16] Looks like it. [03:16] Fujitsu: so feel free to package new upstream version ;-) [03:17] That's what I'm doing :) === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:17] (once these stupid branches check out) [03:17] Hi minghua. [03:17] hehe [03:17] Hello Fujitsu [03:20] bddebian, why didn't you request a sync of u++? [03:21] md5sum mismatch, no? [03:21] Wouldn't that put it on the manual list? [03:21] It didn't for Istanbul [03:22] How strange. [03:22] Do we want to remove mozilla? Debian did some time ago. [03:23] Still has a lot of rdepends, doesn't it? (Though yes, I think we should remove it) :-) [03:23] Indeed, it does. === Fujitsu checks what Debian did. [03:24] Ah. [03:24] They seem to be mostly mozilla | www-browser [03:24] Yeah. === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:27] i keep getting a damn 404 error :( [03:28] what do you do if pbuilder cant grab a depend because of a 404 error from repo? [03:31] pbuilder update [03:32] does cowbuilder work now in feisty? I can't seem to even --create it === ipfw [n=family@c-68-51-218-205.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lidb [n=nichloas@218.17.227.209] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:40] cowbuilder? [03:42] yeah, from cowdancer [03:43] alternate to pbuilder, avoids extracting base.tgzs... [03:43] Hmm [03:44] I tried creating a base-cow now but it borks saying cowbuilder can't be found in the chroot's repositories check [03:48] zakame: How does it do it without extracting them? Just cleans the directory up? [03:53] Fujitsu: yeah iirc, its copy-on-write [03:54] Ah. [03:54] Sounds similar to LVM snapshots. [03:54] yeah [03:56] Hm, I should probably do a license audit on the delta... But it's biiig. === rrittenhouse [n=tad@cpe-76-188-35-66.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:57] libarts is starting to work on my nerves :( [03:58] gnomefreak, luckily kde4 is getting rid of arts [03:58] DarkMageZ: than the upstream needs to get rid of it as a depends [03:58] i think i know what happened but will find out [04:05] last time i running this tonight === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar_ [n=jaldhar@c-24-0-153-89.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === evand_ [n=evand@acmns.pct.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tad_ [n=tad@cpe-76-188-35-66.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tad_ [n=tad@cpe-76-188-35-66.neo.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fowlduck [n=nate@24-183-45-79.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:53] is there an easy fast way to fix this error? checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! [04:53] i woul dlove to finish this before deb [04:53] bed [04:53] Nafallo, around? [04:53] Ah, I see not. [04:54] Fujitsu: pong @ 4:53 ;-) [04:54] Aha. [04:55] You seem to be the master of recent mplayer uploads. [04:55] What's the process for a new upstream? Put it in upstream-ubuntu first, then merge to ubuntu, then resolve conflicts... Then what? [04:56] oh. no idea. I haven't really tried that :-) [04:56] locally I do for example gajim/bzr/{tarball,ubuntu} [04:57] But you did the last mplahyer new upstream, didn't you? [04:57] and then bzr import tarballs to tarball and commit and then merge with ubuntu :-) [04:57] *mplayer [04:57] OK. [04:57] hmm. no idea. I did the repacking upstream wanted :-) [04:58] I don't think I upgraded it [04:58] ages ago anyway :-P [04:58] Yah. === sistpoty is off to bed [05:00] gn8 everyone [05:01] siretart: night :-) [05:01] Gnight sistpoty [05:01] night sistpoty :) [05:01] I must have reminded him about the time :-P [05:02] Sick bastards :-) [05:02] hehe [05:03] I have a LugRadio-marathon ffs :-P [05:03] have taken me two-three days now :-) === ajmitch has just been outside [05:03] I'm on s3e3 :-) [05:03] away from computers [05:03] ajmitch, impossible! [05:03] but true! === Fujitsu hands ajmitch to a rehab centre. [05:04] Wow, my mplayer source package actually built from bzr. I'm impressed. [05:05] I worry that you sound surprised [05:05] It's mplayer, the upstream needed to be modified a lot, and it's in bzr. [05:05] None of which increase my confidence. [05:06] shall I look at it for you? [05:07] Not yet, I think I know what I'm doing now. [05:07] hehe :-) === ScottK weeps at the thought of more Postfix recipient restriction troubleshooting... [05:25] gn{att,ight} [05:29] Gnight Nafallo [05:33] Actually all I had to do was complain and then it wasn't so hard ... [05:34] Heya LaserJock [05:34] hi bddebian [05:36] bddebian: how are things? [05:37] Going man thanks. You? [05:38] decent [05:38] just got back from a conference [05:39] A Laser Conference? :-) [05:42] hello LaserJock [05:42] bddebian: yes [05:42] bddebian: kinda [05:42] hi ajmitch [05:43] uggg, lots of FTBFS === Weems [n=frodo@unaffiliated/weems] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-55-140.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:45] LaserJock: might as well get working on them then [05:46] hmm [05:47] well, ever time I got to these conferences I realize how much I need to focus on research [05:47] I'll try to hit some when I think I can't get through any more merges which is getting VERY close :-) [05:50] LaserJock: Note that about 1/3 of them are false, due to schroot issues. [05:58] Fujitsu: yeah, it's hard to work with that many false positives [05:59] You can eliminate them by looking for larger logs. === fowlduck [n=nate@24-183-45-79.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:13] well, I'm going to bed [06:13] cya all tomorrow [06:14] Goodnight, Laser_away. 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[07:51] (and sleep-updating-mplayer) [07:57] :( === cypher1 [n=cypher1@59.92.183.26] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-24-0-153-89.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === evand_ [n=evand@acmns.pct.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-motu === yigal [n=yigal@pool-71-108-9-73.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu === yigal [n=yigal@pool-71-108-9-73.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === imbrandon yawns [09:46] Go to bed, imbrandon! [09:47] (or did you just wake up?) [09:47] i just got to work [09:47] no sleeep for me [09:47] Ah. [09:47] well got to work 3 hours ago [09:47] but just now logging in etc [09:47] ;) [09:48] wasup Fujitsu ? [09:48] maybe i'll blog tonight , i havent done that in a while [09:48] Well, I've just finished yet another compilation of mplayer 1.0rc1, and it seems to be working this time. === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:50] nice [09:51] hrm i wish there was an archive admin awake [09:51] Why? [09:51] to push a manual main promotion [09:51] There are 6 now, you know? [09:52] Surely one of them is up... [09:52] 6 now ? wow [09:52] seb128 and Mithrandir. [09:53] Although I'm not sure if seb128 has the requisite accounts yet. [09:54] hey imbrandon [09:54] heya ajmitch [09:54] Evening, ajmitch. [09:55] evening [09:55] all the active archive admins seem to be in the same timezone now [09:55] wow haha [09:55] what timezone? [09:55] ajmitch, other than infinity, I presume. [09:55] Fujitsu: I said active [09:55] have you seen him round at all this year? [09:55] True. [09:56] He was away for a while. === ivoks [n=ivoks@22-156.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:56] (ie. on holidays) [09:56] imbrandon: UTC+1 or +2, I think [09:56] seb128 is somewhere else as well, isn't he? [09:56] actually no, UTC & UTC+1 [09:56] seb128 is in paris [09:56] so they're all in the UK or europe [09:56] figures [09:56] Oh, and we've got pitti. [09:56] germany [09:56] pitti is german [09:57] So, Germany, France, UK. All rather similar :-/ [09:57] yup, all in EU [09:57] and infinity was never really in any 1 .au timezone [09:58] Er? [09:58] he kept odd hours [09:58] Hahah. [09:58] kinda like me ;) [09:59] Hrm, so an archive admin is actually up. Impossible. [09:59] yeah [09:59] hardly impossible [09:59] tollef is one of the married ones now :) [09:59] This is true. [10:01] 21:59 < imbrandon> Mithrandir, pweeease and thank you :) [10:02] sickening [10:02] lol [10:03] now I need a new f-spot [10:03] imbrandon, seems you were lucky and it got depwaited... Quite a lot seem to not, these days. [10:03] yea [10:04] imbrandon: need this for amarok? [10:04] ajmitch: What's this new F-Spot? [10:04] Fujitsu: 0.3.3 [10:04] ajmitch, yes [10:04] 0.3.2 has a few bugs that are annoying [10:04] I noticed. [10:04] actualy i needed that for libgpod 0.4.2 witch inturn i need for amarok [10:04] I've been promised a new release before UVF [10:05] I've noticed it vanishes without a trace a little more than I'd expect. [10:05] ajmitch, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuApps [10:05] 0.3.3 is mainly just bugfixes [10:05] I like having a friendly upstream [10:05] who will adjust their releases to match ubuntu [10:05] A friendly upstream? Does such a thing exist? [10:06] sure [10:06] That does sound ideal, ajmitch. [10:06] Fujitsu, hehe yea konversation and amarok both talor to ubuntu releases [10:06] ;) [10:06] I've stayed with the main developer of another package I maintain, in melbourne [10:06] well mostly [10:06] as well as being good friends with some others [10:07] I've met a total of.... Zero FOSS developers in real life. [10:07] Fujitsu: that's hard to believe still [10:08] No Ubuntuers or DDs either :-/ [10:08] I thought you'd had at least 1 debian-melb meetup? [10:08] Nothing ever came of the one I could have attended, and I was at school for the other. [10:08] even I've met more DDs in melbourne than you have :) [10:08] Haha. [10:08] lol [10:08] so next time I'm over I'll have to meetup [10:08] we need more people in KC to be ubuntu/DD people [10:09] chi seems to have alot and KC is bigger [10:09] since I'll probably end up staying with my friend in ringwood [10:09] KC? [10:09] kansas city [10:09] Ah. [10:09] imbrandon: yeah, it sucks only have 5 (or is it 6?) DDs in this town [10:09] ajmitch, what is the population of said place? [10:09] ajmitch, we have 0 and i'm the only ubuntu guy afaik [10:09] 120K peopl [10:09] Not at all bad. [10:10] yeah [10:10] in a town of 2+ mil ( counting suburbs ) [10:10] imbrandon: that's bad [10:10] yea [10:10] I'm the only ubuntu dev currently [10:10] We've got 3 (or perhaps 3.5) million people, quite a number of DDs, and one Ubuntu dev. [10:10] hell our lug only has 20 or so peeps that show up regularly, we have more people at work that use linux than come to lug meetings [10:11] (plus infinity, but... he sort of counts) [10:11] i need to check on the KC population , thats was purely an semi-educated guess [10:11] ah, classic australian music on last.fm [10:11] AC/DC === ajmitch wonders how this got tagged as 'classic rock' [10:12] oh well [10:12] ahh looks like 2.7 million in the actual city limits + more in the suburbs [10:13] so i was a tad off [10:13] probably closer to 3.5 all togather then [10:13] not a small city then [10:13] 2,744,687 [10:14] nope not small, just suprisingly no DD's here afaik [10:14] compared to dunedin, yeah [10:15] wow someone bit my computer area meme kinda late on planet [10:15] hehe [10:20] haha [10:20] I don't think I want to follow that meme :) === ajmitch would have to clean his desk [10:20] hehe === ajmitch only has 3 monitors & a laptop in his 'computer area' [10:22] but I cheat since 1 monitor is hooked up to a dead box [10:23] i have 2 monitors in my main work area [10:23] one isnt hooked up atm [10:23] ( the crt ) [10:23] and my lappy off to the side but its not in the pic === rpereira [n=rpereira@ubuntu/member/rpereira] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:25] hum [10:26] yeah, but I like my 3200x1200 desktop :) [10:27] someday i'll get another 22'' and run dual head [10:27] wont be for a few more months though [10:27] unless i get a raise [10:27] ;) [10:27] 3200x1200 is neat [10:28] hey siretart [10:28] at work, we have 1920x1200 desktops, I think [10:28] huhu ajmitch [10:28] heya siretart [10:28] huhu imbrandon [10:28] yea i run 4x 1600x1200 at work [10:28] ( 4 x 17in lcd ) [10:30] yeah I hate you now [10:30] but that's ok [10:30] lol === ajmitch has a single 17" lcd at work, 1280x1024, windows XP [10:31] heh , lemme find some batteries and i'll take some pics of the DC [10:31] i've been meaning to anyhow [10:32] i have a cheap camera here but its dead [10:32] you at work now? [10:33] yea [10:33] for 5 or so more hours [10:33] its a slow night === cypher1 [n=cypher1@59.92.183.26] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:43] ajmitch, http://www.imbrandon.com/misc/gsi/ [10:43] err [10:43] http://www.imbrandon.com/misc/gsi/workstation.jpg [10:44] crappy pics but the camera here sucks [10:44] worse than mine at home hehe [10:45] but give you a rough idea of the DC [10:45] gives* [10:48] imbrandon: I want one. :P [10:49] quad head? [10:49] siretart, two dual head nvida cards [10:49] Fujitsu, one what ? [10:49] That setup. [10:50] heh thats my work setup, i actualy like my home setup better for useability [10:51] honestly two widescreens > 4 smaller ones [10:51] imbrandon: what/where are you working? [10:51] siretart, i work at one of the largest colo / managed hosting facilities in the US [10:52] thus i get the rackspace and bandwidth for free for my buildfarm ( from yesterdays convo ) [10:52] as an employyee perk [10:53] http://www.gsihosting.com/clients/ <-- some of our customers [10:53] siretart, ^^ [10:54] impressive :) [10:54] imbrandon: interesting setup === Crashtoy [n=m293@APoitiers-157-1-140-201.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:55] i'd take better pics of the actual racks but some have company logo's that we arent allowed via PCI to disclose etc [10:56] and i'd get my arse chewed/fired [10:56] ;) === Crashtoy [n=m293@APoitiers-157-1-140-201.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [10:56] What do you actually do? [10:57] Fujitsu, sysadmin for ubuntu/centos/solaris boxen [10:57] for some of our managed clients and our company internal servers [10:57] Aha. [10:57] Other than the CentOS, that sounds good. [10:58] yea the cent boxes will eventualy get phased out, but with over 1k in production it takes a while [10:58] Wow! [10:58] How many boxen do you have in total? [10:58] between the two DC's and the offsite backup facility about 5 to 6 k [10:59] a small number [10:59] yea really not that many considering the stuff we do [10:59] more and more they are getting virtualized [10:59] we have a few esx servers now === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Weems [n=frodo@unaffiliated/weems] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:41] hum, got quiet [11:44] yep [11:46] apt-cache search wildfire [11:46] err [11:46] hum [11:46] heh [11:46] apt-cache search life [11:46] are there any jabber servers in the repos ? [11:46] darn, can't install one [11:47] sure there are [11:47] wildfire dosent seem to be [11:47] lol @ life [11:47] jabberd2, ejabberd [11:47] jabber === imbrandon is considering putting up a free ubuntu'ish' jabber server [11:48] like ubuntu-roxorz.tld or i-heart-ubuntu.tld [11:48] or some such , just for fun [11:48] ejabberd works well, I use it on ubuntu.org.au. [11:49] ;) [11:51] hrm do jabber servers automaticly talk to one another ? or would i have to "peer" with like jabber.org or something ? [11:52] e.g. if i set this up @whateverichoose.blah can still talk to other jabber service users like gmail and jabber.org{,.au} etc ? [11:53] Automagic. [11:53] cool [11:53] (unless you disable it manually) [11:53] hum could even through some kinda free webmail too i guess === imbrandon ponders [11:54] any sugestions ona catchy ubuntuish domain for free jabber/webmail for general users? [11:54] ubuntu.net! Almost definitely taken, though. [11:54] maybe i should make a contest for the best name and give that person a bigger disk quota and pop3 access [11:54] or something [11:55] ubuntu-is-t3h-1337.net [11:55] heh [11:55] or whatever misspellings you can manage [11:56] hehe [11:59] umail.com ( like gmail ) , nah toooooo lame [11:59] and not everyone would catch it i dont think [11:59] ubumail. === imbrandon ponders a bit more === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:12] hum ok if i do run a "contest" for a domain name , any sugestions on collecting the data ? i hate to have it all jumbled in say comments to a blogpost === ajmitch shrugs === ajmitch is away to sleep === lizardking_ [n=lizardki@87.20.134.233] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:19] later ajmitch [12:20] zulrocksyoursocksoff.net [12:20] heh [12:20] hah [12:21] bddebianisagod.net [12:21] ;) [12:21] yeah, that may put a few people off === ajmitch really should go & sleep [12:21] hehe SLEEP !! [12:21] this channel is logged isnt it ;) [12:21] yea [12:21] afaik all *ubuntu* are [12:21] atleaste most [12:23] irunubuntu.com === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fredix [n=fredix@86.67.45.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:27] nn ajmitch [12:29] heya cbx33 [12:29] hi imbrandon [12:29] howz it going? [12:29] good good [12:29] excellent [12:29] busy busy I take it? [12:29] finished stage one of the motu farm [12:29] yea lately really busy [12:30] and thinking about a new project heheh [12:30] as seen above [12:30] awesome [12:31] I only saw it from thinking of a contest for a doamin name ;) [12:31] 04:54 < imbrandon> any sugestions ona catchy ubuntuish domain for free jabber/webmail for general users? [12:31] ;) [12:31] ahhh nice [12:32] meh...fsf sucks.. [12:32] jabuntmail === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:32] heh [12:32] ;) [12:32] yeh....I clearly havn't woken up yet [12:32] i-r-heart-ubuntu.net [12:33] hehe === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:33] imbrandon, you're a KDE dude [12:34] how hard is it to start deving gui apps for the kde environment === Hobbsee waves [12:34] heya hoora_214 [12:34] err Hobbsee [12:34] damn tab button [12:34] lol [12:34] cbx33, quite easy if you go the pyqt route, basic apps in less than a day === StevenK teaches imbrandon to read the line before pressing Enter. [12:35] hi Hobbsee [12:35] hehe [12:35] hey cbx33 :) [12:35] s/pyqt/pykde also [12:35] imbrandon, see I've been working on TCM recently [12:35] and we split it into front end backend [12:35] so that we could develop a KDE front end [12:35] at the moment no one has stepped forward [12:35] so I'm thinking I may do it [12:36] obviously not this release [12:36] what do i doo with this error? its during pbuiilder build. checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! [12:36] right on, thats what ubiguity etc does, pygtk / py{qt,kde} [12:36] I'd not have time but maybe next - is it clode to pygtk? [12:36] s/clode/close [12:36] yea [12:36] same method of working? [12:36] signal handlers etc? [12:36] yup [12:37] just no .glade's, use qtdesigner to make .ui's then pyuic to convert them to .py and off you go [12:37] or import kde and the .ui directly and no pyuic needed [12:37] depends on how you like to work [12:38] yeh [12:38] well i use glade quite a lot [12:38] but also do a lot of it by hand [12:38] imbrandon: Is the ppc build.i.c up? [12:38] like signal connecting that kinda thing [12:38] if you use glade to do your pygtk apps , qt designer and pyqt/pykde will be right at home to you [12:38] what's the diff with pykde and pyqt? [12:38] StevenK, not yet, i have to reload it, i fubard it last night [12:39] imbrandon: Bozo! :-P [12:39] cbx33, pyqt is pure qt and pykde has the kde extensions [12:39] see this is where gnome people get confused [12:39] ;) [12:39] hehe [12:39] indeed [12:39] ok think about it like this , gtk != gnome [12:39] we gnomeians are simple folk [12:39] qt != kde [12:40] qt is just the widgets , kde is the widgest plus more kde specific widgets ( like html widgets etc ) that are qt overrides and plus some other nongui libs [12:41] kinda like the relationship between gtk and gnomelibs [12:41] imbrandon: Re-read that "qt is just..." sentence and cringe... [12:41] whereas gtk != gnome but gnome == gtk+++ [12:42] StevenK, hehe, its hard to explain, but i think he see's what i'm getting aty [12:42] s/y// [12:42] imbrandon: or glade and gtk? [12:42] maybe? [12:42] imbrandon: where's amarok, btw? [12:42] nah, glade is qt designer of gtk [12:43] Hobbsee, sitting on my hdd , i had to wait till mith pushed libgpod 0.4.2 [12:43] it will get uploaded this morning [12:43] plus i couldent upload it before the 4th tech anyhow since thats when they will release it "publicly" [12:43] :) [12:43] but its built and ready to go [12:44] built* [12:44] err [12:44] nvm [12:44] imbrandon: did it push correctly? === Hobbsee was dealing with that on thursday. [12:44] did what push correc5tly? [12:44] libgpod [12:44] yea about an hour ago it did [12:44] its built now as of 5am my time [12:45] thus i'll upload amarok 1.4.5 here in a few ( but i cant backport it or announce it for 18+ hours because amarok team hasent officialy released it yet ) [12:45] and they tend to get mad when that happens [12:45] ;) [12:45] i get it imbrandon [12:45] cool [12:45] thanks [12:46] yeah, but you can give us prerelease debs for testing. [12:46] imbrandon: you fixed teh bugs assigned to me, presumably? [12:46] they are in the results dir on build.imbrandon.com [12:46] Hobbsee, most of them, i'll get the rest before i upload [12:46] cool [12:46] sarah@LongPointyStick:~$ ssh imbrandon [12:46] ssh: connect to host build.imbrandon.com port 5022: Connection refused [12:47] not 5022 [12:47] just 22 [12:47] its a brand new box [12:47] new rules , accounts from LP etc etc etc [12:47] i need to write up some docs about it [12:47] imbrandon: nice of you to actually...you know...tell the people who have shells on it :) [12:47] maybe i'll do that today and email them to -devel [12:48] imbrandon: somerville's been wanting to know waht's happening [12:48] Like sysadmins notify people. [12:48] heh [12:48] yea all of ubuntu{,-core}-dev has accounts [12:48] and somerville isnt a motu yet [12:48] so no account for him , got to limit it somehow [12:49] ahh, i thought that you said you had given him an account. or that was his belief, anyway [12:49] i did on the old old old voyager box [12:49] not since i made the "farm" [12:50] this one automaticly gets the ssh keys from LP for those groups and makes acounts based on your LP name [12:50] and imports new keys every few hours [12:50] so less "admin" for me [12:50] ;) [12:50] imbrandon: precisely *which* results dir? the one i was expecting has nothing [12:51] /storage/pbuilders/feisty/results [12:51] if its not there i need to make a new run of it [12:51] hobbsee@aurora:/storage/pbuilders/feisty/result$ ls -la [12:51] i need to make a new run of it anyhow [12:51] total 0 [12:51] drwxrwxr-t 2 imbrandon imbrandon 48 2007-02-02 08:31 . [12:51] drwxr-xr-x 6 imbrandon imbrandon 208 2007-02-02 07:20 .. [12:51] actualy [12:51] seems os [12:51] yea [12:51] *so [12:51] i'll make a rebuild here in a few minutes then [12:51] grab the bugs assigned to me when you do :) [12:51] i will === giskard [n=giskard@213-140-22-74.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:52] these are the last lines of sudo pbuilder-feisty build ../*.dsc. http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/338389 is there something im missing? [12:52] !xincludes [12:52] When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev xlibs-static-dev xorg-dev [12:52] looks like its missing a build-dep gnomefreak [12:52] gnomefreak: ^ === tsmithe` [n=tsmithe@82-70-109-22.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:53] gnomefreak: but see teh description of it first === Adri2000 [n=adri2000@ubuntu/member/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:54] ok ill try it again. ive been missing depends all over the place so ive been adding them one by one and the errors go away :) [12:55] yep :) [01:05] Hobbsee, new test build started so you can play with it, but not all the fixes are in there yet [01:05] i'll let you know when its done === imbrandon has to get some real work done now [01:05] imbrandon: cool, okay === herzi [n=herzi@p548FD247.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:18] in the build depends do i libart2 and libart2-dev or can i just go with all -dev packages and forget the non -dev ones? [01:20] libart2 was example i already fixed the libart depedns [01:21] You should just be able to get away with the -dev packages, since they mostly all depend on the library packages anyway [01:21] ok cool if it fails to build this time i wil replace all reg. packages and just use the -dev ones (does this go with libc6 also? [01:22] You do not need to Build-Depend on libc6-dev [01:22] k [01:22] If it's in build-essential, don't add it to Build-Depends [01:22] k :) [01:31] siretart, around? === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:42] wow the FSF gonna screw Novell ? === pochu [n=pochu@179.Red-88-7-169.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:46] imbrandon: i hope they won't. that would be stupid [01:51] fsf? === gnomefreak uses suse and i dont wanna get screwed again [01:52] gnomefreak: have a look at /. [01:52] free software foundation , e.g. the copyright holder to all GNU software [01:52] gnomefreak, ^^ [01:52] ah === gnomefreak wonders if my pbuilder is messed up now :( [01:53] phanatic, actualy i think it would be fantastic, make a deal with the devil and lay in your own bed after its made === Neonightmare [n=neonight@108.76.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gnomefreak think this is bad: error: cannot find input file: scribus/doc/Makefile.in [01:54] gnomefreak, screwed again ? your still being screwed every day that goes by that they havent abolished the deal with MS [01:55] true [02:03] meh...politics [02:08] http://youtube.com/watch?v=FVbf9tOGwno === geser [n=michael@85.25.108.44] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:11] should i try updating pbuilder to fix the makefile.in error above [02:13] lmao @ that link [02:16] lol === Neonightmare [n=neonight@108.76.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [02:21] ok found a makefile.in in the Cmake dir. can i just mkdir /path/scribus/doc and copy the makefile.in to the new doc folder? === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:29] the common mistake page doesnt even list this issue. but i think im gonna eat breakfast than figure the makefile issue out [02:29] evening all [02:30] can someone check out my update on wlassistant on revu? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4252 === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar_ [n=jaldhar@c-24-0-153-89.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:41] hi does anyone know the bug number of the bug which causes the d-i to crash when scanning for cd rom [02:41] I know I have to turn off an option on the kernel line [02:41] but I can't remember what it is [02:42] something/pcmcia=false i think [02:42] anyone shed any light? [02:42] cbx33: it's mentioned in the herd3 announcement [02:42] ahh thanks phanatic === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-128-081.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:43] hi allee [02:43] zakame: hi, news from wlassistant? :) [02:43] I've prepared the new wlassistant, its on revu: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4252 [02:44] zakame: cool!! I'll have a look [02:46] thanks :) not much has changed, although I've to edit the interfaces diff a bit [02:46] also I've still to check if my run-parts integration is correct, although it seems fine when I tested it [02:48] zakame: I've to find a AP without WPA before I can test === cypher1 [n=cypher1@59.92.192.185] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vil [n=vladimir@static-71-120-223-131.rlghnc.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fraco [n=fraco@213.219.142.248.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bigon [i=bigon@imladris.bigon.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === segfault [i=segfault@ubuntu/member/segfault] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu__ [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-126-107.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:34] pbuilder creates makefiles.* but doesnt create makefile.in. is there something that I and doing wrong or is this pbuilder. here is the error i get: http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/338507 === zakame checks [03:35] gnomefreak: did you try rebuilding the autotools stuff? [03:35] i just ran update for pbuilder and trying it again but startange feeling updating pbuilder isnt gonna help [03:35] zakame: no how do i go about that? [03:37] gnomefreak: no, I mean did you update the package-to-be-built's autotools stuff (touching configure.in, Makefile.am, etc) before trying to build? [03:37] no [03:39] i was building this for the most part from the packaging guide and it didnt say anything about that [03:40] oh [03:41] can you paste a full buildlog, I mean the stuff right before your previous paste? [03:42] yeah it should be done soon the other one is lost a little further up from where i gave you === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:46] zakame: http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/338519 if i need to go higher up let me know i just changes the scrollback and wont let me go much further without restarting term === lizardking [n=lizardki@host233-134-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:47] gnomefreak: the trick is in `pbuilder ... 2>&1 | tee ../buildlog` ;) [03:47] and pasting ../buildlog [03:47] im gonna have to rebuild this i think im looking at it and there is a typo on one of the file names that i fixed and pbuilder doesnt loo like it changed with my change [03:48] ./scribbus-ng-debhelper should only have 1 b in scribus [03:50] unless you see something else === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:52] thats exactly what it is [03:52] ill rebuild it from scratch and see what happens thank you === helge [n=helge@249.62-97-194.bkkb.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu === helge [n=helge@249.62-97-194.bkkb.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu === helge [n=helge@249.62-97-194.bkkb.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra_ [n=ogra@p548AE723.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === did448 [n=didier@62.210.200.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === asantoni [n=alb@bas7-london14-1177945724.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:17] Heya gang [04:17] yo bddebian! [04:18] Hi zakame === Weems [n=frodo@unaffiliated/weems] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kjcole [n=kjcole@dsl092-145-217.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:31] heya bddebian === davromaniak [n=cyril@AFontenayssB-152-1-87-137.w86-218.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === eXistenZ [n=amerdakk@unaffiliated/eXistenZ] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:32] Hi imbrandon === ivoks [n=ivoks@22-156.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Pricey [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon hates writing proposals === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === apokryphos [n=francis@unaffiliated/apokryphos] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-130-170.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === eXistenZ [n=amerdakk@unaffiliated/eXistenZ] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:50] damn typo caused issues for 18 hours *slaps self hard* === pochu [n=pochu@179.Red-88-7-169.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lakin_ [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hoora_214 [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-e45a42d8db78fc3c] has joined #ubuntu-motu === davromaniak [n=cyril@AFontenayssB-152-1-87-137.w86-218.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:56] gnomefreak: awww [04:57] in about an hour we will find out if it fails again. [04:57] takes that long to build? [04:57] zakame: i cleared pbuilder and ther eare alot of depends [04:57] there are [04:58] ah [04:58] eeek [04:58] what was the typo in gnomefreak ? [04:58] 118 of them [04:59] dang it [04:59] cbx33: scribbus instead of scribus one of the commands i ran (thinking dh_make) put that typo in control and changelog [05:00] noooo [05:00] if i can find a way to shortent he depends i will think about it [05:01] it may have been when i renamed the file to -debhelper but its all fixed now for the time being === ryanakca [n=ryan@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pirast [n=martin@p508B0D0A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-130-170.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Neonightmare [n=neonight@108.76.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lutin [n=Lutin@sd-4736.dedibox.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chillywilly [n=danielb@CPE-72-133-223-147.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ppjet6 [n=ppjet6@lns-bzn-51f-81-56-130-254.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bigon [i=bigon@imladris.bigon.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ppjet6 [n=ppjet6@lns-bzn-51f-81-56-130-254.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon hugs btlaunchmany [05:23] such pretty colors when there are no errors :) === chrisj [n=tortoise@82.152.223.112] has joined #ubuntu-motu === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu-motu === somerville32 [n=somervil@ubuntu/member/somerville32] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-79-61.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rexbron [n=rexbron@199.212.72.37] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rexbron [n=rexbron@199.212.72.37] has joined #ubuntu-motu === geser [n=michael@ubuntu/member/geser] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lizardking [n=lizardki@87.20.134.233] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:53] gnomefreak, pretty colours? [05:54] can someone help me out with mychroot? I't not able to access the internet at all [05:54] yeah pink green blue [05:54] pretty colours for what? === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:54] while its building (maybe plugins) [05:55] oooh....you got me interested now ;) [05:55] hehe [05:55] lol [05:55] you mean this isnt normal? [05:55] i have proc mounted in the fstab [05:55] but my chroot still isn't accessing the internet [05:55] any ideas [05:55] gnomefreak, I've never seen it [05:56] ahhh [05:56] think i got it [05:57] doesnt seem so colorful the second time around :( === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:57] i wanna see [05:57] :( [05:57] cbx33: I haven't had to change mounts when I did a chroot. [05:57] it was my resolv.conf === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:58] i forgot to log the build the first time so im doing it again so we will see if it gets pretty [05:58] Ah [05:58] So you have it working now? [05:58] yup [05:58] OK. === ScottK goes back to fixing a Perl program despite knowing no Perl.... === kjcole [n=kjcole@dsl092-145-217.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:59] ScottK: i dont know perl either === ScottK prefers Python. === cbx33 too === gnomefreak thinks only a handful of peopel know perl [05:59] people* [05:59] gnomefreak, i'm curoius how are you/where are you building [05:59] in pbuilder [06:00] i don't get pretty colours [06:00] wonders if i have a term log [06:00] gnome/kde? [06:00] gnome [06:00] gnome-terminal? [06:00] yes [06:01] I don;t get pretty colours [06:01] must be a shell thing [06:01] i pbuild all the time [06:01] it might be [06:03] this time no colors === ash211 [n=andrew@user-11213f8.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:04] are you pbuilding in feisty#? === gnomefreak scared of lintian -i *.dsc [06:04] cbx33: yes [06:04] ah [06:04] maybe fesity pbuilder has colours [06:05] next one i build we will find out. this one i hoping is for the most part done [06:06] ok [06:10] i build in feisty and have no colours :( [06:10] anyhow bbiab [06:13] gnomefreak, where did you get these pretty colours from [06:13] we must fid out [06:13] no sure [06:13] maybe terminal settings [06:13] it is my lifes mission [06:13] u use standard [06:13] gnome-terminal [06:13] ? [06:13] i dont think so [06:13] oh what you use? [06:13] ill post the conf [06:14] heheh [06:14] sorry [06:14] just realluy interested === coNP [n=conp@pool-00c94.externet.hu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:14] hey coNP [06:15] hey phanatic & all! [06:16] cbx33: http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/338701 [06:16] thanks === azeem [n=mbanck@host109.natpool.mwn.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:17] np [06:18] though I can't see anything relating directly to pbuilder there [06:18] nope [06:19] was it pbuider or make output ? [06:20] it was pbuilder-feisty [06:21] is pbuilder-fesity an alias? [06:21] no, it's a small script [06:22] its Laser's script iirc [06:22] ahh [06:22] someone care to tell me if this is bad? http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/338705 [06:22] no [06:22] those are ok? [06:22] it's included in pbuilder [06:22] oh [06:23] /usr/share/doc/pbuilder/examples/ or so === zorglu_ [n=zorglub@61.43.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === did448 [n=didier@LAubervilliers-151-13-66-3.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === bersace [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:42] gnomefreak, in other words delete debian/*.{ex,EX} [06:42] and fix your X build deps [06:42] oh i can cool :) [06:42] ;) [06:42] x build deps? [06:42] # [06:42] E: scribus-ng-debhelper source: build-depends-on-obsolete-package build-depends: xlibs-dev [06:43] # [06:43] N: [06:43] # [06:43] N: The package build-depends on a package that has been superseded. [06:43] # [06:43] ah ok i can work that out [06:43] N: [06:43] # [06:43] E: scribus-ng-debhelper source: build-depends-on-x-metapackage build-depends: xorg-dev [06:43] # [06:43] N: [06:43] # [06:43] N: Packages must not build-depend on X Window System metapackages. [06:43] # [06:43] N: [06:43] # [06:43] imbrandon: pastebin next time. oki? [06:43] N: The metapackages xorg, xorg-dev, x-window-system, x-window-system-dev, [06:43] # [06:43] N: and x-window-system-core exist only for the benefit of users and [06:43] # [06:43] N: should not be used in package build dependencies. [06:43] # [06:43] N:errr [06:43] whoops [06:44] but yea , that ^^ === imbrandon /kicks Nafallo [06:44] :-P [06:44] will look into it today ty :) === bersace [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === co-NP [n=conp@pool-026bd.externet.hu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bersace [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=alessand@host189-63-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-087-086.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:17] well i dont see any depends errors :) its building so we shall see === segfault [i=segfault@core-dumped.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lukaswayne9 [n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jrib [n=jasonr@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === helge [n=helge@249.62-97-194.bkkb.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theCore [n=alex@ubuntu/member/theCore] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:38] now i only have one warning. if someone gets time how do i fix this or does it need to be fixed at all? http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/338811 [07:39] Would you pastebind debian/changelog? [07:40] *pastebin [07:40] gnomefreak: ^^^ [07:44] yep [07:45] http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/338820 [07:45] ScottK: thats the changlog :( === ScottK is looking [07:46] i didnt know if i should add ubuntu's changelog to it [07:46] oops that should be sat [07:46] but i doubt that s the issue [07:46] you're probably missing the orig.tar.gz [07:47] where's the upstream tarball? [07:47] gnomefreak: what's the filename for the orig.tar.gz? [07:47] ah let me see === mayday_jay [n=mayday_j@maydayjay.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:48] its in the folder i made for building this and its called scribus-ng_1.3.3.7.dfsg.orig.tar.gz [07:48] folder i made so i didnt clutter up ~/ [07:49] that's precisely why you're getting the error. [07:49] note the name of the source package in debian/changelog [07:49] then compare that with the name of your orig.tar.gz [07:50] but the guide told me to add -debhelper to it [07:50] oh the -1 [07:50] ok removed the -1 from the end is that all? [07:50] no, it's the part in the orig.tar.gz before the _ [07:51] your changelog entry uses scribus-ng-debhelper [07:51] k [07:51] therefore your orig.tar.gz must be named scribus-ng-debhelper_1.3.3.7.dfsg.orig.tar.gz === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has left #ubuntu-motu ["brb"] [07:51] I'm not convinced, however, that's what you want. What are you attempting? [07:51] ok can i just rename it? [07:52] Are you generating a new binary package from the scribus-ng source package? [07:52] bulding this package since ours is a lower version [07:52] yes === ScottK sits back and learns from crimsun... [07:52] ok, so no, you're not generating a new binary package from the scribus-ng source package; instead you're generating a newer upstream version of the source package. [07:52] oh thats not good === StevenK [n=stevenk@14.5.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:53] I'm pretty certain that's what you want, in fact. [07:53] however-- [07:54] gnomefreak: take the current package in Ubuntu and uupdate to the new upstream version [07:54] so instead of building it in debian dir build it in ubuntu dir? [07:54] if you're targeting feisty, use what geser stated, or (and this is preferred) file a sync request against feisty's current scribus-ng source package requesting a sync from Debian unstable/main [07:55] i thought that was only for merges [07:55] Debian has a newer version? [07:55] than sync from it [07:56] use https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/scribus-ng/+filebug , and follow https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2006-August/000181.html [07:56] afterward, subscribe the ubuntu-universe-sponsors LP team [07:57] k === crimsun -> lunch [08:04] they want the changelog in the ubuntu debian dir. right? [08:06] for the sync request? [08:06] yes [08:07] copy all new changelog entries (from the Debian package) after 1.3.3.6.dfsg-1 [08:07] there wasnt any [08:07] http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/s/scribus-ng/current/changelog [08:07] come to this about it there had to be [08:08] ty [08:08] you need to copy the changelog entry for 1.3.3.7.dfsg-1 [08:08] ah oops [08:11] that's the only one after the version which is currently in feisty [08:12] you may want to test in a pbuilder if the package from Debian builds on Ubuntu [08:12] i had it already just had to look for it === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:14] its done. i uploaded the whole file just incase they needed more [08:16] geser: can you look at this sync request https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/opencv/+bug/83086 ? there is an ubuntu change to drop, but I think we should rather keep it, what do you think? [08:16] Malone bug 83086 in opencv "[Sync Request] opencv (1.0.0-1) from debian experimental/main to universe" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] [08:17] currenty looking at it [08:18] the change is: [08:18] -Replaces: python2.3-opencv (<= 0.9.7-3) [08:18] +Replaces: python2.3-opencv (<= 0.9.7-3), python2.4-opencv (<= 0.9.7-3) [08:18] and same with Conflicts: === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:22] Adri2000: it needs to be merged === coNP [n=conp@pool-026bd.externet.hu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chrisj [n=tortoise@82.152.223.112] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:39] gnomefreak: you should add the *new* changelog entry not the ones we already have [08:39] gnomefreak: I've added the missing parts and ACKed it === bleinmono [n=toffel@ppp85-141-150-107.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:52] morning [08:52] hi ajmitch === co-NP [n=conp@pool-00071.externet.hu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fowlduck [n=nate@24-183-45-79.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lizardking_ [n=lizardki@host233-134-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chrisj [n=tortoise@82.152.223.112] has joined #ubuntu-motu === shawarma_ [n=sh@atlas.linux2go.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob [i=rob@freenode/staff/rob] has joined #ubuntu-motu === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === siretart_ [i=siretart@tauware.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Weems [n=frodo@unaffiliated/weems] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanakca [n=ryan@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fowlduck [n=nate@24-183-45-79.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xopher [n=xopher@unaffiliated/xopher] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fowlduck [n=nate@24-183-45-79.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:37] thank you geser [10:40] np === martin_ [n=martin@p508B029E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:41] geser: I will upload the opencv merge, ok? === rexbron [n=rexbron@206-248-153-124.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:47] and also, I will upload mozilla-stumbleupon (merge) === ademan [n=dan@h-67-101-215-128.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:48] Adri2000: it's ok with me === eXistenZ [n=amerdakk@unaffiliated/eXistenZ] has joined #ubuntu-motu === co-NP [n=conp@pool-009ef.externet.hu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === coNP [n=conp@pool-00865.externet.hu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Weems [n=frodo@unaffiliated/weems] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:17] sure is busy around here === Weems [n=frodo@unaffiliated/weems] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TheMuso [n=luke@ubuntu/member/themuso] has joined #ubuntu-motu === allee [n=ach@dialin-145-254-251-240.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:34] Hey MOTUs. [11:35] hi TheMuso [11:38] hi TheMuso [11:38] Hey LaserJock. Was the conference successful? === rexbron_ [n=rexbron@206-248-153-124.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:42] pretty much [11:43] people seemed to like my poster ok [11:43] and I got some potential postdoc contacts [12:06] LaserJock: latex question for you [12:06] in order to fix this bug for Plucker documentation, it has to build .tex files [12:06] and also in the configure.in I noticed latex2html [12:07] if I was to depend on latex2html it in turn depends on tetex*. [12:08] and this will build out the tex files. do you know of any "shortcuts" as the tetex-* downloads are fairly large [12:08] for a depend [12:08] actually, probably wouldn't be so bad but the us.archive suck for me === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #ubuntu-motu === co-NP [n=conp@pool-00016.externet.hu] has joined #ubuntu-motu