=== Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Seveas] by ChanServ === PriceChild [n=pricechi@unix0.york.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v PriceChild] by ChanServ === MagicFab [n=magicfab@ubuntu/member/magicfab] has joined #ubuntu-ops [12:47] hi sorry to bother. I have abuse on a loco team channel and their op is not there [12:47] repeat cursing in #ubuntu-lat [12:47] no ops? === mc44 [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has joined #ubuntu-ops [12:48] their op is out [12:48] somerville32: no habla espanol? [12:48] no babla espanol :) [12:48] well, llok for mierda and anal [12:49] [g3o] and [GuS] [12:49] MagicFab: yo habla poquito espanol [12:49] and somerville32 doesn't need an education starting with those words :D [12:50] defecar = go take a shit [12:50] yes, i know. [12:50] Well, technically, the vete is the 'you go' part of that [12:50] tx [12:51] i only speak Tex-Mex, so have to think a bit on what i'm seeing , but i get the picture :) [12:52] tx., I think hey got it. [12:54] so, this [GuS] guy is back. I can't spend much time on it, I am on shift @ canonical support. [12:54] i'll keep an eye out [12:56] kthx === MagicFab [n=magicfab@ubuntu/member/magicfab] has left #ubuntu-ops ["Imposible] === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Hobbsee] by ChanServ [01:59] weird, no idea what happened with the channel. I definitely set +if (and of course, people wouldn't have instantly been thrown into -effects if that wasn't the case). Oh well [02:00] apokryphos: you need access 25 [02:00] oh for setting guard atleast [02:00] that doesn't have anything to do with it though === gnomefreak gave up building kiba-doc the right way :( [02:01] if it's +i, then no-one can join [02:01] how come? [02:01] too hard [02:01] way too hard [02:01] I see [02:01] no debian dir. [02:06] ok a bit too many of these now === apokryphos wonders where the staffers are [02:06] the ones i've seen were all 88.232 [02:06] so, highlight time === SportChick presumes apokryphos means ubuntu staffers and continues to lurk [02:07] SportChick: freenode staffers [02:07] SportChick: there's a lot of spammers in ubuntu channels [02:07] #ubuntu and #kubuntu [02:08] aha === SportChick joins [02:08] well, there's been a few. Posting... pornography I guess. [02:08] tonyyarusso: do you think yipe wants a cookie? [02:08] LjL: maybe === tonyyarusso sighs [02:08] and #kubuntu-offtopic -- weird [02:08] c'mon...stick with the food now [02:08] apokryphos: yeah they actually *started* there [02:09] tonyyarusso: heh yeah [02:09] who even knows about that channel? :/ [02:09] yeah really [02:09] apokryphos: probably using some script that just chooses random channels.. [02:09] there are two staffers online - feel free to ping one of us if you see someone doing it - I'm not watching every channel, but will respond to a ping [02:09] And the didn't hit #ubuntu-offtopic, the one that actually has traffic. [02:09] *they [02:10] apokryphos: any consistency in the spammers' nicks? [02:10] SportChick: no, but the IPs all begin with 88.232 from what i've seen now, and the message is always the same [02:11] Yeah, just the ip and message, not nick [02:11] ljl will you paste one to me? [02:11] join/nick/message? [02:11] SportChick: oh, and the realname seems to be "-" in at least two cases [02:11] SportChick: sure hold on [02:11] thanks [02:12] ok, off to bed, see you [02:13] they seem to be doing it manually [02:13] at least judging from the fact the number of "::::" and "..." isn't consistent [02:14] (in the spam message that is) [02:28] !vmware [02:28] VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware [02:28] !no vmware is VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware [02:28] I'll remember that, LjL === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Jucato] by ChanServ === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Jucato] by ChanServ === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Jucato] by ChanServ === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.175.250] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v effie_jayx] by ChanServ === hybrid [n=x@72.169.30.254] has joined #ubuntu-ops [03:45] jenda, ping [04:15] I thought we had a ban on him from before... === MagicFab [n=magicfab@ubuntu/member/magicfab] has joined #ubuntu-ops === willys_fueguino [n=willy@unaffiliated/willysfueguino] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v willys_fueguino] by ChanServ [04:23] Night everyone ;-) === DBO [n=DBO@unaffiliated/dbo] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v DBO] by ChanServ [04:25] willys_fueguino is here for guidance in running a channel. currently he ops for #ubuntu-lat. i believe he might need some advice on how to counter trolls, that doesnt involve forwarding an ubuntu namespace channel out of the ubuntu namespace [04:26] Why forwarding rather than banning? what sorts of trolls? [04:27] willys_fueguino, will you talk with tonyyarusso? [04:27] Well, if they're trolling in English I can help out [04:27] yes... [04:27] I'm thinking how to say it [04:27] Otherwise I have the critical difficulty of not understanding what they're saying [04:28] lol [04:28] (I'm pretty nervous) [04:28] Well the problem was.. [04:28] #ubuntu-lat is a sort of support + offtopic channel... [04:28] and sometimes [04:29] My channel protection style isn't the typical Freenode style, either, but that really just serves to increase my efficiency [04:29] Minataku: *grin* - if they're in all caps, that's probably an indication that they're flaming. or spamming [04:29] we use to say bad words... it's a normal thing over there... [04:29] "used to" I hope is key there. [04:29] We managed the channel that way for 6 months + [04:30] But now... [04:30] wn8 [04:30] Hobbsee, not really with the spanish speakers [04:30] mm... [04:30] Hobbsee: Not necessarily, I use caps when I'm actually yelling about something, for example [04:30] The channel users don't respect the CoC [04:31] elkbuntu: good point [04:31] Like "WAIT! STOP! DON'T DO THAT!" [04:31] willys_fueguino: majority or a handful? [04:31] So as we have troubles with that... [04:31] tonyyarusso: almost *everyone* [04:31] so... [04:31] now I'm forwarding the channel to another one... [04:32] Ah, yes, the new "namespace" thing [04:32] where the ubuntu CoC isn't respected... [04:32] It's not ubuntu named [04:32] (##libre) [04:32] Freenode is a rather bizarre network when traditional IRC practices are involved [04:32] Forwarding the entire channel, or users? [04:32] Well... [04:32] hi Hobbsee [04:32] the entire channel [04:32] Minataku: (that's why I like it) [04:32] hmm [04:32] tonyyarusso: lol [04:33] hey Kamping_Kaiser [04:33] so.. [04:33] This is a "temporary" solution... [04:33] I can't stand it, I walk into a channel with no ops and I think "Something is up here" [04:33] lol [04:33] Then I have to remind myself that this is Freenode and up is down and so on [04:33] XD [04:34] Minataku: freenode isn't really an "IRC network" [04:34] So the channel users are forwarded to that channel so they become aware of the situation.... [04:34] it's a communication system for open source users and developers that happens to use the IRC protocol :) [04:34] Amaranth: you forgot the and tags there [04:35] lol [04:35] many of them doesn't like rules and that's what make the channel "friendly" [04:35] (at least for us) [04:35] So.. [04:35] willys_fueguino: Okay; I'd suggest no longer forwarding the entire channel. banforward all of you current users if you like, but I'd take off the channel one. [04:35] Yes, yes, I remember lilo and his somewhat confusing ways very well, rest his awesome soul [04:35] That way, if a new person shows up, they'll get into a sparsely populated but respectful channel, rather than the madhouse. [04:36] Keep an eye on the madhouse, and if there are users that look sane, unban them and /invite them back. [04:36] tonyyarusso: I wouln't say that's a "madhouse" [04:36] Enforce strictly to maintain the cleaned room. [04:36] XDD [04:36] Just remember that looks can be decieving [04:36] Minataku, the ban can be reinstated as easily as it was removed ;) [04:36] then... 1 set a topic that reflects the situation [04:37] For example, I may seem at times like a perfectly sane and well-adjusted individual [04:37] yeah [04:37] LjL and Jucato could attest otherwise [04:37] lol [04:37] 2 let the users know that the temporary channel is ##libre [04:37] Minataku: I'm thinking you're taking this conversation in a direction you won't enjoy. [04:37] 3 Stop forwarding the users.... [04:37] Would that be correct? === Jucato doesn't attest otherwise... [04:37] Amaranth: Well, if you can't rag on yourself then you _really_ have a problem, right? [04:38] willys_fueguino: stop forwarding _some_ users - let the good ones stay, but keep the rabble elsewhere. [04:39] tonyyarusso: I'm leting go #ubuntu-lat [04:41] tonyyarusso: and the channel owner and the others one will too [04:41] willys_fueguino: 'k [04:41] willys_fueguino: no need to carry the +o usually, 'specially with a script [04:42] tonyyarusso: hahah I forgot I had the +o [04:42] XDD [04:42] (I'm not used to carry that) [04:43] tonyyarusso: I'm forwarding everyone 'cause the biggest number of our users were there because of the regulations we had... [04:43] We are EXTREMELY flexible on rules... [04:44] We don't like bans... [04:44] but if it has to be done... [04:44] we do it. [04:44] willys_fueguino, If you want to be flexible, then thats ok [04:44] willys_fueguino, Just make sure people respect the CoC though [04:44] But when we think that's necesary [04:44] win 18 [04:44] oops [04:44] If I have a +o I carry it all the time, it's good to have the show of authority sometimes [04:45] somerville32: But to stop having problems like this.. We are going to another channel temporarily where users don't HAVE to respect the ubunteros CoC [04:45] willys_fueguino, There is no need to force everyone there [04:46] somerville32: mm... good point... [04:47] willys_fueguino, I thing ou are inviting them to act up a bit... [04:48] "act up"?? [04:48] If I were to have a channel wehre the topic reads something like... "Here be Bad Words and Cursing and mature talk, Beware" [04:49] you can open a space for it.. .yes... but don't encourage it... [04:49] effie_jayx: that's a warning to "under-age" users... [04:49] yes [04:50] but a white letter for the others... [04:50] mm... I don't think the guys on the channel consider that like "that".. [04:51] anyway... being a "offtopic" channel... [04:51] willys_fueguino, just my opinion... [04:51] check the ubuntu-offtopic channel... [04:51] *it's [04:51] effie... not "oficial" ubuntu channel... [04:51] willys_fueguino, true.. [04:52] effie_jayx: like an GNU/linux opinions channel [04:52] willys_fueguino, mmkey... it was just an opinion... [04:52] Yarr... there be bad words and cursing and mature talk ahead, beware, ye scurvy dog [04:52] Sorry, couldn't resist === mefistofeles [n=ivan@unaffiliated/mefistofeles] has joined #ubuntu-ops [04:52] XDDD [04:53] well... We're moving temporarily the #ubuntu.lat community to a non-related channel [04:59] so... let me get this straight... by using the word "ubuntu" (for example) we have no choice but to follow their rules? [04:59] *their CoC [04:59] so it's not much free as in freedom hehe [04:59] mefistofeles, "the coc is supposed to be abided even if not signed, because it is what structures the community atmosphere" [04:59] mefistofeles: Sure it is. It's just not free as in "do whatever random disrespectful and immature stuff you want". [05:00] mefistofeles, a friend tought me that [05:00] mefistofeles, it is more a case that if a channel is not going to abide by the Ubuntu CoC, it shouldnt be a channel representing part of the Ubuntu community [05:01] and as jono once said, the CoC basically says 'dont be an idiot' [05:01] lol! [05:02] mmmm... [05:02] except he used 'twat' instead of idiot, but im not sure how well that translates across [05:02] me neither elkbuntu :-S [05:02] wait [05:02] I read :P [05:02] willys_fueguino, it's another word for female genitalia ;) [05:02] "it is what structures the community atmosphere" ==> not entirely truth [05:02] elkbuntu, someone is actually asking if the mere use of the Ubuntu name ina channel name is enough to have it "covered" by the CoC [05:02] elkbuntu: lol!!! XDDDD [05:03] elkbuntu, the d word works fine [05:03] and for reference, the answer is "Canonical asks nicely": https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat [05:03] elkbuntu: well... so..if I make a channel with the word ubuntu on it..Im then inside the ubuntu community right? [05:03] "When participating in Ubuntu IRC channels, please abide by the [WWW] Code of Conduct." [05:03] we (as users of #ubuntu-lat) were never taken into account as ubuntu members [05:03] mefistofeles: yes. [05:03] well not until today [05:04] mefistofeles, it's not as in Member, but rather participant [05:04] or ubuntu community...dont know what's the exact word [05:04] elkbuntu: yeah..that [05:05] ok... well I think I got this clear now [05:05] ah, so mefistofeles was here - sorry, didn't notice [05:05] MagicFab: heh np [05:05] hahahah [05:06] on the other hand === MagicFab gets back to radius auth... [05:06] how is freenode's CoC facing ubuntu's CoC? [05:06] hmm..how to ask hmm === DBO [n=DBO@unaffiliated/dbo] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v DBO] by ChanServ [05:06] I mean... ubuntu's CoC cant "break" freenode's CoC..right? [05:06] Freenode is a little bit broader, but still applies. It's on freenode.net, I believe under "policies" [05:06] mefistofeles, of course not [05:07] yeah... ok...thats good [05:07] mefistofeles, the ubuntu irc guidelines just takes the freenode policy a bit further === MagicFab [n=magicfab@ubuntu/member/magicfab] has left #ubuntu-ops ["Imposible] === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Madpilot] by ChanServ [05:08] hi Madpilot [05:08] elkbuntu: ok... [05:08] hi Kamping_Kaiser [05:08] :) [05:09] this may spund silly....what about something called... madbuntu or something like that? [05:09] will ubuntu's CoC apply to them? [05:10] mefistofeles, not sure [05:10] or take for example...fluxbuntu [05:10] thats a better choice [05:10] elkbuntu: hehe ok..I got to read the policies [05:10] just wondering === Music_Shuffle [n=kumar@unaffiliated/musicshuffle/x-303664] has left #ubuntu-ops ["Leaving"] === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.175.250] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v effie_jayx] by ChanServ === willys_fueguino [n=willy@unaffiliated/willysfueguino] has left #ubuntu-ops ["Visitennos] [05:16] got another question :S heh [05:16] is there a way to have a channel with "ubuntu" in the title and not being involved with ubuntu's CoC ... like putting in the topic "This channel is not supported by ubuntu" or anything like that [05:17] we dont want to loose the channel..but we dont agree with ubuntu's CoC [05:18] I may have to ask this to freenode's staff heh [05:19] mefistofeles, what in the CoC is not to your liking? [05:19] effie_jayx: well for example the so called "bad words" in channel [05:19] LjL's theory just died. [05:20] SportChick: New host: @24-151-18-087.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com [05:20] the ... be respectthere is nothing of that... there is a more general clause in the ubuntu CoC [05:20] it is [05:20] Be respectful [05:20] that's all... [05:20] well this problem started cuz of someone saying "mierda" in a channel ... heh [05:21] SportChick: nvm, ignore that. I mistyped. It was actually another 88.232. You can leave that host alone. :S [05:21] thats "shit" for enlgish... [05:21] did he offend anyone? directly [05:21] not at all [05:21] Hobbsee: I'm beginning to wonder about banning 88.232.* - we've had these all day. [05:21] tonyyarusso: yeah, he happened to do that just after i op'd...nice coincidence [05:22] would probably make sense - depending on who else is using that hostmask [05:22] Im going to make an example..I hope it works [05:22] Hobbsee: any way to check that? [05:22] for example... "I lost my wallet" - "oh shit!" [05:22] i thought /who 88.232.* would [05:22] [15:22] [Who] C|zZZz is n=asura@88.232.72.14 (gaim) [05:22] [15:22] [Who] End of /WHO list for 88.232.* [05:22] that kind of "shit" was lol [05:23] Hobbsee: Doesn't look familiar, so I doubt they'll come by anyway. [05:23] mefistofeles, mmm I see... but someone surely got offended... [05:24] well Magicfab warned him because of that... and som,e other...dont remember the nick banned another for saying that as well [05:24] and in our own channel..they just took over the channel without notifying the admins [05:25] Hobbsee: I think I'm going to. *sigh* [05:25] tonyyarusso: heh, smart [05:26] Hobbsee: It can just be *!*@88.232.*, right? doesn't need to be *!*@88.232.*.* or anything silly? [05:26] tonyyarusso, first is ok [05:26] good [05:26] tonyyarusso: first is fine, iirc [05:26] bf them to here [05:27] you sure you want that? [05:28] what about any false positives? [05:28] I'm thinking. === v8 [n=v8@216.184.123.43] has joined #ubuntu-ops === v8 [n=v8@216.184.123.43] has left #ubuntu-ops ["join] [05:31] Hobbsee: Okay, it's a Turkish ISP. #1, we have very few Turkish users, #2, they won't be in the English channel, #3, that just seems like a suspicious place to be coming from IP-wise : my conclusion, the cost/benefit analysis of a false positive or two versus just spamming this channel instead is probably worth it for the 24 or 48 hours. [05:31] Another one from 88.232 [05:32] [23:28:57] * Boo1 (n=Boo1@88.232.72.20) has joined #kubuntu (Spammed and left) [05:32] tonyyarusso: cool, excellent [05:32] Hobbsee: do anywhere you have ops and I don't I think... === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+o Hobbsee] by ChanServ [05:34] i cant in -motu or -meeting [05:34] done the rest though [05:34] got k-o too [05:35] good stuff [05:37] oho! [05:37] mneptok!!!! [05:37] the #ubuntu-lat conversation has started [05:38] H to the O to the B to the B to the S to the E to the E! [05:38] the thought of you in cheerleader garb has the ability to scar [05:38] hahahhaha [05:38] yes [05:38] lol [05:39] *\o*\ /*o/* *\o/* === mneptok shakes his pom-poms [05:39] gah === Hobbsee runs [05:40] tonyyarusso, Hobbsee you guys think it's bad? I've met him, i have a more realistic mental image [05:40] elkbuntu: hehe, at least I don't have a visual [05:40] lol mneptok [05:41] joejaxx, knows my pain! [05:41] elkbuntu, XD [05:41] elkbuntu: hahaha [05:41] elkbuntu: no wonder you went crazy.... [05:41] ohjeez. it's joejaxx. === elkbuntu thwumps joejaxx with the racist bus driver [05:42] he's wunna them Negro footbahll playuhs. y'all know whut THAY-YUH lahk. [05:42] hearing mneptok describing that would have to have been the funniest thing that whole week [05:43] it was .... surreal. [05:43] i about had to tie joejaxx to his seat to keep him from punching the guy in the yarbles, while laughing. [05:43] i wish i could have been there, alas, i was busy yelling at the other bus driver for wanting to take us to that other place [05:44] which, in hindsight, might have been cool. a homocide committed while laughing. [05:44] mneptok, he'd be a perfect candidate for The Joker in the next batman incarnation [05:45] but then joejaxx would be in jail, which wouldn't be so cool, i s'pose. at least not for him. [05:45] mneptok doesn't look scary [05:45] Amaranth, nah, not compared to you === elkbuntu starts running === Amaranth rampages in tokyo [05:45] lol [05:46] it could read you guys forever [05:46] MAH WAHF YEWZED T'BE A MAY'YUN! [05:46] !u [05:46] Unless you're Dutch, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun. If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you". The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on.. === Hobbsee likes [05:46] mneptok: although i gotta say, you're the kind of guy that would look natural holding a chainsaw [05:46] Amaranth: which end? [05:47] depends, did you bring me flowers? [05:47] uhhh ... yes? [05:47] alright, you can hold the handle [05:47] brb. gotta go buy .... ummm .... Twizzlers. [05:49] I can see it now, mneptok flying down the road on one of those super-scooters wielding a chainsaw [05:49] Amaranth, in cheerleader garb [05:49] totally [05:50] it's bring it own meets fast and the furious meets texas chainsaw massacre [05:50] err... [05:50] -offtopic seems to have become the site of marriage proposals now. weirdos [05:51] hehe [05:51] that reminds me, can someone add me to !ops? [05:52] in which channel? === Seeker` [n=chris@195-112-20-245.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-ops [05:52] all the ubuntu ones [05:52] i thought #ubuntu-* shared a factoid [05:53] didnt think so [05:53] !ops-#ubuntu-offtopic [05:53] argh [05:54] ... [05:54] !-offtopic-#ubuntu-offtopic [05:54] offtopic-#ubuntu-offtopic is offtopic4offtopic - added by Mez on 2007-01-22 02:20:08 [05:55] !find ops [05:55] Found: libatomic-ops-dev, autopsy, cheops, cheops-ng, freepops (and 5 others) [05:55] bleh, not what i wanted [05:55] does that just find people with "ops" in their name? [05:55] Looks like namespaces DO share them. So the regular !ops is the one he wants. [05:57] Amaranth, Hobbsee: done [05:57] ah right [05:57] thanks [05:58] Seeker`, packages === Seeker` realises that makes more sense [05:59] 5am is too early :S [05:59] :S [05:59] nalioth, I want contrl in ubuntu-lat === Seeker` is downloading windows vista, as he is a student and can get it for free [06:00] I can op that channel [06:00] however, its spread over 5 cds, and they make you use a horrible downloader, which is prone to failing [06:00] they are moking the staffers there... [06:00] and i can only download overnight so i dont annoy housemates [06:01] so i need to check on the downloads regularly :( [06:01] Seeker`: You should be klined for that [06:01] Seeker`, and your telling us... [06:02] Seeker`: If you're dependent on XP, do NOT upgrade to Vista [06:02] It kills your XP key [06:02] Minataku: I've got a spare hard drive to install it on. And it isn't an upgrade version. [06:02] Seeker`: Either way, you're a fool for doing it in the first place [06:03] Minataku: I dont want to label something as rubbish unless I have tried it myself === Kamping_Kaiser has no such quams [06:03] Seeker`: You can't take the word of credible organizations such as the EFF, FSF and GNU? [06:04] Minataku, please behave [06:04] Minataku: I would like to see what it is like for myself, and i have an empty 80G hard drive in my computer [06:04] i thought he/she was [06:04] He, and I am [06:05] Kamping_Kaiser, calling someone stupid for wanting to get first hand experience is not very nice [06:05] s/stupid/a fool/ [06:06] i'm not going to argue the point, suffice to say i agree installing vista to decide you dont like it seems silly to me [06:06] Sorry, that was out of line [06:06] But I just can't imagine installing Vista for any reason other than the computer belonging to my archenemy === Seeker` feels that if he doesn't try it, he is just "jumping on the bandwagon" and microsoft bashing for the sake of it [06:07] Which is where I said [06:07] Seeker`: You can't take the word of credible organizations such as the EFF, FSF and GNU? [06:07] lets stop this now before it gets ugly [06:08] ok [06:08] Minataku, that's the bandwagon he's talking about [06:08] [06:13] Seeker`: Sorry for getting bent out of shape and insulting you [06:13] Minataku: Thats ok. I can understand where you are coming from [06:13] :3 === Seeker` heads back to bed [06:13] Night [06:13] sleep well [06:14] night [06:26] tonyyarusso: sorry i wasn't here at the time, anyway [06:26] ok [06:26] SportChick: 'tis okay - probably better that way since I was wrong anyway! [06:26] here is the deal.. and stop me if I am overreacting... [06:26] :D [06:26] hehe [06:27] tonyyarusso: no worries :) [06:28] the channel ubuntu-lat is nt happy about ops being there... they have laughed at you and have decided to hang aorund another channel while you are there [06:28] they will return once they are gone... [06:29]