[12:16] <twb> Mithrandir: hey, does feisty's casper do netbooting yet?
[12:58] <Hansin321> I read somewhere (links from Ubuntu Developers Conference in Mtn. View I think) that one goal is to get a smoother transition from start-up to actually being in the system (whether GDM/KDM/XDM or in the DE itself).  I have a multi-boot system and threw on OpenSUSE 10.2 to just check it out.  I feel Ubuntu is a better overall experience, but OpenSUSE does have a nice boot sequence screen, where you can show/hide the details of the boot process in a n
[12:58] <Hansin321> ice font.  I assume this uses the framebuffer.  Something like this would probably go a long way to make Ubuntu look more professinal and polished as a first impression.  Let me know if I am out of place posting this in this IRC channel.  Thanks.
[12:59] <kylem> opensuse is probably using rhgb, i'd guess?
[01:01] <Hansin321> Not sure what is uses, but it does look pretty nice.  I'll have to some digging and figure that out.
[01:06] <Amaranth> rhgb is a hack
[01:08] <Hansin321> I was told it is from www.bootsplash.org
[01:11] <Hansin321> I just verifed in the opensuse directory that it is using this.
[01:32] <tenco> hi
[01:32] <tenco> i wanted to test gnome beta 1 aka 2.17.90 without going through garnome hassle
[01:33] <tenco> are there already 2.17.90 gnome debugging packages for feisty available?
[01:33] <jrib> tenco: you want #ubuntu+1 for support with feisty
[01:33] <tenco> ok
[03:32] <bddebian> Heya
[11:21] <Keybuk> why the hell isn't there an execvpe() ?
[11:55] <Mez> Keybuk, usually the answer to questions like that is "to annoy you"
[03:47] <whoppix> hey all :) im just wondering if there is a special reason, why "libpoe-perl" is in version 0.3203 (edgy), while the official stable version is 0.9917? (CPAN) the old version in the repositorys is kinda outdated, the api has changed, and its not really compatible to the new POE modules.
[04:08] <cypher1> !seen
[04:33] <bddebian> Heya
[05:28] <nox-Hand> Hey
[05:28] <nox-Hand> When installing from a 6.06 CD, can I update the installer inside the liveCD?
[05:31] <pochu> nox-Hand: join #ubuntu :)
[05:33] <nox-Hand> pochu: Already there :-) I guessed it'd be a dev question
[05:33] <pochu> nox-Hand: it isn't ;)
[05:33] <nox-Hand> pochu: Laters then ;) Cheers
[05:33] <lotusleaf> nox-Hand: #ubuntu-offtopic #ubuntuforums have fun ppl
[05:34] <nox-Hand> lotusleaf: It was not a fun question. It was an install upgrade question ;)
[05:34] <lotusleaf> nox-Hand: they field questions, too very often ;)
[05:34] <nox-Hand> Hehe
[05:34] <lotusleaf> :D
[06:08] <Q-FUNK> is there an e-mail address for ubuntu-printing team via which they can be reached?
[06:18] <gnomefreak> Q-FUNK: it should be on their LP page
[06:19] <Q-FUNK> gnomefreak: no e-mail address there.
[06:19] <gnomefreak> Q-FUNK: can i see the link pleas
[06:19] <gnomefreak> e
[06:19] <gnomefreak> except a local team
[06:20] <Q-FUNK> https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-printing
[06:20] <ivoks> Q-FUNK: what's the problem?
[06:21] <Q-FUNK> ivoks: I need to poll the opinion of the team on a certain issue.
[06:21] <ivoks> about what? :)
[06:21] <Q-FUNK> ivoks: cups-pdf.
[06:22] <Q-FUNK> ivoks: but it would be simpler to just send an e-mail to the whole team than to explain now to you and re-explain later.
[06:22] <gnomefreak> i only found doko's address not a team address. maybe file a bug report as the poll?
[06:24] <ivoks> well, i really don't know how you could do that, except sending email to all members
[06:24] <ivoks> i don't say you should do that, but... nothing else comes to my mind...
[06:24] <Q-FUNK> ivoks: that's why I was askign if there is any mailing list for that team.
[06:25] <ivoks> gnomefreak: i think martin or till would be better option, cause they are involved in development, triage and planing of printing
[06:26] <gnomefreak> i went with matthias because he is owner
[06:29] <BenC> anyone running latest feisty and have an atheros card?
[06:30] <BenC> Someone willing to test some new lrm packages with updates madwifi
[06:30] <gnomefreak> nope sorry :(
[07:09] <Orby> could someone tell me what version the herd3 .iso has on it.
[07:09] <Orby> *kernel
[07:10] <pochu> Orby: 2.6.20-6, I think
[07:11] <Orby> ah perfect :)
[07:11] <Orby> thanks
[07:11] <Nafallo> .11
[07:11] <pochu> :)
[07:11] <Orby> ah
[07:11] <Orby> even better :D
[07:23] <farruinn> sorry this isn't exactly development related, but how can I find out what kernel modules are included for an install disc w/o burning the disc?
[07:24] <Nafallo> loopmount it
[07:24] <Nafallo> or ignore me btw :-)
[07:24] <farruinn> Nafallo: I did, but I'm not seeing the filesystem that the installer uses. 
[07:26] <farruinn> is it loaded from boot/initrd.gz or boot/isofs.b?
[07:26] <farruinn> or is there somewhere I can see what packages are used to make the installer cd?
[08:10] <bluefox_> meh.
[08:11] <bluefox_> why can't I do that with gnome vo.ov
[08:11] <bluefox_> We've got great ACPI
[08:11] <Kano> man hdparm
[08:12] <Kano> or install laptop-mode-tools
[08:13] <Kano> laptop-mode-tools - Scripts to spin down hard drive and save power
[08:13] <bluefox_> Kano:  hdparm lets me do it 'now"
[08:14] <bluefox_> not in X minutes or Xd minutes if on battery
[08:14] <Kano> well use the laptop-mode-tools
[08:14] <bluefox_> also I'm more thinking of standbying and low-powering desktop machines
[08:55] <geser> keescook: you missed to include the orig.tar.gz in the new gnupg2 upload
[08:55] <keescook> geser: yeah, I just re-up'd it now.  :P
[08:55] <geser> keescook: thanks for uploading
[08:56] <keescook> sure, sorry I took so long!
[08:56] <geser> I got the mail just now
[08:58] <geser> keescook: np, you got it uploaded before the UVF
[08:59] <keescook> :)
[08:59] <pitti> hey keescook 
[08:59] <keescook> hiya pitti!
[10:09] <pitti> hi zul 
[10:34] <mooey> howdy. im trying to fix a bug in an ubuntu package, but rebuilding it with dpkg-buildpackage fails, is this the correct place to ask for some help?
[10:34] <sistpoty> mooey: #ubuntu-motu is more appropriate
[10:34] <mooey> thanks, sistpoty 
[10:34] <sistpoty> np
[10:42] <troy_s> Sorry if this is the wrong forum, but how do I force Ubuntu to display the update manager with a baloon hint? (for testing)
[10:45] <pitti> troy_s: downgrade a package
[11:00] <rc-1> how do you get in the GNU/Linux repos? (my servers not done yet but when it is i would like to put it/the client in there if possible)
[11:01] <Burgundavia> rc-1: sorry, I don't understand what are you looking for
[11:02] <Burgundavia> are you looking to help with development of Ubuntu?
[11:02] <Burgundavia> are you looking to mirror the ubuntu repositories?
[11:02] <rc-1> Burgundavia, nothing yet, but when i finish my project i was wondering how i would apply to be in the ubuntu repository
[11:02] <rc-1> no how to apply to be included in them
[11:02] <Burgundavia> you want to help mirror the ubuntu repositories?
[11:03] <rc-1> to add a new program to them
[11:03] <Burgundavia> ah
[11:03] <Burgundavia> in that case, go to #ubuntu-motu
[11:03] <Burgundavia> they can help you get a new program into Ubuntu
[11:06] <rc-1> Burgundavia, thanks :)
[11:06] <Burgundavia> rc-1: no worries