UbugtuNew bug: #83132 in firefox (main) "Firefox freezes Ubuntu Suddenly - Reboot needed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8313212:41
crimsunI find it difficult to believe that FF is causing these system freezes12:41
crimsunis it trampling something in ram? (stacksmashing would be caught)12:42
crimsunis it triggering an X driver boog?12:42
Admiral_Chicagoi won't mock biology, just realize we physicist created the A bomb :)12:49
crimsunyou mean the mathematicians, but whatever.12:50
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gnomefreakim willing to bet bug 83132 beryl is causing the freeze. it does it with latest beryl :)01:26
UbugtuMalone bug 83132 in firefox "Firefox freezes Ubuntu Suddenly - Reboot needed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8313201:26
gnomefreakreboot isnt needed hes just impatiant(sp)01:27
UbugtuNew bug: #83171 in firefox (main) "www.sony.com bug when using the menu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8317106:51
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UbugtuNew bug: #83194 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashes when switching video mode at filecabi.net" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8319411:50
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UbugtuNew bug: #83197 in firefox (main) "crash on wine" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8319712:10
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gnomefreakguys we need a few :responses made for the wiki. if someone whats to right them let me know (im not good with coming up with responses01:33
gnomefreakwho has rebult ff lately?03:21
UbugtuNew bug: #83229 in firefox (main) "could not close window with ctrl-W until I clicked on thebackground" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8322903:26
gnomefreakanyone know why firefox-dom-inspector is not in the LP source-packages when trying to set source package on a bug?05:00
gnomefreakseems to be built in firefox :(05:03
UbugtuNew bug: #45357 in firefox (main) "Firefox does not react on keyboard input anymore when opening certain pages" [Medium,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/4535706:06
gnomefreakcrimsun: you here?06:14
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UbugtuNew bug: #52646 in firefox (main) "send link does nothing" [Medium,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/5264606:51
UbugtuNew bug: #63201 in firefox (main) "spreadsheet.google.com freezes the whole system" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6320107:01
UbugtuNew bug: #65694 in firefox (main) "bookmark crash" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6569407:10
asachi! ... is this the normal pace at which serious bugs come in?07:11
Admiral_Chicagoasac: those aren't serious bugs07:11
gnomefreakthose are being closed by me07:12
Admiral_Chicagothose are mostly crash reports.07:12
Admiral_Chicagothanks john07:12
gnomefreaknotice either rejected or fix released07:12
asacso what is the policy ... on crashers ? :)07:13
gnomefreakasac: file a ug report :)07:13
gnomefreakbug even07:13
=== gnomefreak trying to get caught up with bugs today
Admiral_Chicagoasac: well, with crashes we close most of them because they aren't reproduceable07:14
Admiral_Chicagosecondly, many of them are due to flash, totem, et al07:14
asacaha ... is flash, totem a temporary issue or a regression?07:15
Admiral_Chicagonot sure what you mean07:15
asacI mean ... since when get that 'many' crash reports filed that are due to flash? was this introduced by some recent upload?07:18
Admiral_Chicagoasac: no, it was fixed by a recent upload (Flash player 9) that was updated after 2 years07:20
UbugtuNew bug: #83270 in firefox (main) "Firefox closed down after completing the loading of a page" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8327007:20
gnomefreakAdmiral_Chicago: i got a bug if you want to look at it and give your opinion if you have time. bug #8322907:20
UbugtuMalone bug 83229 in firefox "could not close window with ctrl-W until I clicked on thebackground" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8322907:20
=== gnomefreak really needs to find a local to report a bug on for ff
Admiral_Chicagognomefreak: which one07:21
Admiral_Chicagooh i see07:22
gnomefreakthe bug above for you to opinion on07:22
Admiral_Chicagoi don't understand this statement "ounds like you had to click the emtpy space becasue the firefox window wasnt the focused window."07:25
gnomefreakAdmiral_Chicago: if you have terminl open with firefox behind it that key combo wont do anything (firefox in background == not focused07:26
Admiral_Chicagookay so I have a window open (gobby) and gobby focus. Fx is in the background, no focus. then what am I supposed to do07:28
gnomefreakhe states he has to click on ff background anywhere than use the key combo. makes me think he has window open infront of ff07:30
asacassume you have firefox open ... click on the desktop next to it -> window gets deactivated ... loses focus .... then no input will go to ffox07:31
gnomefreakso try it without clicking on ff background07:31
Admiral_ChicagoI had Akregator open in front of it (with focus) and I hit ctrl + W and nothing happened07:32
gnomefreakcorrectme if im wrong but to use ff under wine you need windows version of ff and windows version of flash coorect?07:32
gnomefreakAdmiral_Chicago: thats what makes me think it is users fault07:33
gnomefreakgood :)07:33
Admiral_Chicagognomefreak: seems like we don't want an unfocused window reacting to keystrokes no?07:34
gnomefreakwe only want focused windows reacting to key strokes07:34
asacmozillas used to have hard-to-reproduce focus bugs. Hard to say if this report is really about such a case.07:34
gnomefreakother wise you will end up with major issues07:34
gnomefreaknot sure if i should wait for his reply but i assume so07:35
Admiral_Chicagowell it is Rob Collins, he wouldn't be leaving a bug report if it wasn't good07:35
UbugtuNew bug: #67604 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashes when closing the window" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6760407:35
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AlexLatchfordGood work today John07:47
gnomefreakty AlexLatchford07:49
gnomefreakAlexLatchford: i have one of your bugs in my window atm not sure what the hell to do with it. i think its totem causing ff to crash :(07:50
gnomefreakbug 6938207:51
UbugtuMalone bug 69382 in firefox "Firefox freezes on audio files when right clicking, Save Link As" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6938207:51
gnomefreaki just commented on it07:51
AlexLatchfordhmm ok07:51
=== gnomefreak should check my mail :( im betting im flooding peoples mail
AlexLatchford(just updating wiki, 1 sec)07:51
AlexLatchfordHmm I have seen this bug happening quite a bit07:53
AlexLatchfordgimme 10 minutes to look for duplicates07:53
gnomefreakty make sure they are all using gstreamer :)07:54
AlexLatchfordyeah I will do07:54
UbugtuNew bug: #69315 in firefox (main) "random crash" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6931507:55
gnomefreakthank you07:55
AlexLatchfordgnomefreak: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/7201807:57
UbugtuMalone bug 72018 in firefox "crash gtk_style_realize Segfault when clicking back after failing to watch a video" [Medium,Confirmed] 07:57
AlexLatchfordIt doesn't say which plugin that user is using though07:57
AlexLatchfordbut the behaviour seems similar07:57
AlexLatchfordalso.. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/7756407:58
UbugtuMalone bug 77564 in firefox "Crash while trying to save an rtf from a GoogleMail email (but had just failed to open an rm file with Totem)" [Medium,Unconfirmed] 07:58
AlexLatchfordmight be of interest07:58
UbugtuNew bug: #69382 in firefox (main) "Firefox freezes on audio files when right clicking, Save Link As" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6938208:00
gnomefreakhmmmmm this bug is a good one i think i will add a response to wiki. thank you :)08:02
gnomefreakgonna add one about totem versiona nd what package08:04
gnomefreakhave to think of how to say it08:04
AlexLatchfordhmm j08:04
AlexLatchfordk even08:04
asacso -gstreamer makes ff crash but -xine not?08:05
gnomefreakasac: when they answer we will know. but -gstreamer has had crash issues in past where -xine didnt08:07
gnomefreakAlexLatchford: what do you think of: Which totem pacakge do you have installed?08:08
gnomefreakWhich version of the totem package is installed?08:08
gnomefreakwould like to make it  a bit easier to understand but not sure how to word it08:09
gnomefreakah ha08:09
AlexLatchfordmeh, I have -xine installed08:09
AlexLatchfordhaven't had too many problems with it08:09
AlexLatchfordsome videos wont play, but no crashes08:10
gnomefreakwell its up there. feel free to change it if you think it can be worded better.08:11
AlexLatchfordokay, I have the responses list on my todo, along with /Bugs and /Bugs/Triage so it will get a make over soon enough :)08:14
AlexLatchfordI have cleaned up most of the rest of the wiki, just needs a few more things done to it on the actual main pages now08:15
=== gnomefreak hates writing wikis i can fix them but coming up with words to use not my thing :)
AlexLatchfordlol, I am the opposite08:16
=== gnomefreak wonders if ther eis a tab limit ff can handle
asacgnomefreak: which page did you edit?08:19
gnomefreakwe need to come up with a more general part instead of My IBM T43 had the same problem.08:22
=== gnomefreak doesnt have IB< T43
gnomefreakSome people have reported that their IBM T43 had the same problem. maybe?08:23
asachmmm ... maybe it would be better to ask for a complete list of plugins as well as extensions in response to crash reports? e.g. like opening about:plugins and providing some info from there?08:23
gnomefreaki thought of that and had asked someone to do that but. its a long list (mostly java related)08:24
asacyeah ... from what I have seen so far, the apport stuff is nice, but tends to trigger lots of duplicates. which are a pita to deal with properly.08:24
asacwho did you talk with?08:24
gnomefreaksome bug i did today08:24
gnomefreaki asked for it08:24
asacah okay08:25
UbugtuNew bug: #69522 in firefox (main) "/tmp/_usr_lib_firefox_firefox-bin.souko0.crash" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6952208:25
asaci currently look at about:plugins ... sadly I cannot identify from that info if its a -gstreamer or -xine totem :/08:25
UbugtuNew bug: #69460 in firefox (main) "Crashes after filling up my disk space" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6946008:25
gnomefreakyou can but let me check08:27
gnomefreakthought you could. i remember seeing xine in them before but with ff 3.0 and feisty i dont see it like that anymore08:28
gnomefreakcant remember if i even have totem-xine installed08:28
gnomefreakthere were depends issues earlier in devel08:28
asaci have edgy ... and don't see it either08:28
asachmmm totem-xine ships from universe ... same for -gstreamer?08:31
gnomefreakgstreamer is in main08:33
gnomefreaki believe its installed from installer08:33
asacinteresting ... totem-gstreamer is in main .. totem-xine is in universe/gnome ... but both are build from same source :)08:34
gnomefreakxine has restricted formats in it08:35
gnomefreakit plays most of w32codecs by default08:36
gnomefreakopening a popup crashes ff? dont open the damn pop ups08:36
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Admiral_ChicagoAxlRose: ask gnomefreak i think he's around08:39
Admiral_Chicagoalso AlexLatchford might be able to help08:40
AxlRoseI've got a question for you concerning the mplayer plugin08:40
gnomefreakAxlRose: ask it we might beable to help08:41
AxlRosegnomefreak:  I'm trying to watch a movie trailer on yahoo.com...and all  I get is sound and now picture08:41
AxlRosegnomefreak:  *no picture08:41
AxlRosegnomefreak:  it shows the mplayer plugin logo, and where the streaming is comming from08:41
gnomefreakwhat extentsion is the file? does it work if you download it and play it08:42
asacAxlRose: missing codec?08:42
AxlRoseI don't think I can download it...it streams08:42
gnomefreakshould beable to but that is up to yahoo if they let you.08:43
gnomefreakasac: you have mplayer installed08:43
gnomefreakor AlexLatchford do you?08:43
asacunfortunately not .... but I remember to remember :) that mplayer (once) will not completely give up if for instance video codec is missing but audio is there.08:44
gnomefreakAxlRose: your on edgy?08:44
asacAxlRose: how did you install it?08:44
AxlRoseyes edgu08:45
AxlRoseand I installed it using Automatix08:45
UbugtuNew bug: #70024 in firefox (main) "Crash in Firefox when printing" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7002408:45
gnomefreakwell that leaves me out of this. im done tracking issues for automatix (try asking in #automatix?)08:47
asachmm cannot install it ... no support for amd6408:48
asacAxlRose: does mplayer work correctly otherwise?08:48
AxlRoseasac:  sure does08:48
asactry to install  all codecs if you haven't done so already ... otherwise ... its hard to say.08:52
asacsorry :-/08:53
AxlRosewhere would I find the codecs?08:53
UbugtuNew bug: #83288 in mozilla-firefox-adblock (universe) "firefox adblock doesn't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8328808:55
gnomefreakubotu tell AxlRose about restricted08:56
gnomefreakAxlRose: check your pm08:56
asachmmm don't know which package it is ... there should be a w32codecs package available somewhere08:56
AxlRosegnomefreak: I don't get a pm08:57
gnomefreakasac: i have a deb on my site :)08:57
gnomefreakis taht all you need is the w32codecs?08:57
asacgnomefreak: yeah then ... AxlRose try that :)08:57
asacmaybe ... just digging around ;)08:57
gnomefreakthink i uploaded it on the new site08:58
gnomefreakif you give me a minute i will upload it08:58
AxlRosethere is nothing with w32codecs in the name in adept08:58
gnomefreakAxlRose: you wont find it there08:58
gnomefreakAxlRose: give me a few minutes08:59
asacAxlRose: be warned it, might be illegal afaik :-P08:59
gnomefreakim uploading them now i will giv eyou link when its done08:59
gnomefreakabout 15 minutes or so09:00
AlexLatchfordmeh, was in the shower.09:01
AlexLatchfordlink me to the video in question please09:02
AlexLatchforddig about in the html code, see if the actual format is supported09:02
AlexLatchfordAxlRose: ping09:03
AlexLatchfordhmm the video plays for me using -xine, seems to be in .wmv format09:05
gnomefreakAxlRose: the older ones are here http://www.youmortals.com/ubuntu/packages/ not much is different09:05
gnomefreakchanged things around and havent gotten all the uploads done in the new place09:05
gnomefreakthey are wmv the w32codecs should do it09:06
AxlRoseso it's not playing because mplayer doesn't support wmv?09:07
AlexLatchfordno mplayer should support it09:07
AxlRoseso what do I need the codecs for09:07
gnomefreakwmv == window media video09:07
asacAxlRose: the package you installed does not ship the codec ... thats all09:07
AlexLatchfordno wait09:07
gnomefreakthe w32codecs on the link i gave you above09:08
AlexLatchfordthe format it is using is .asf, the streaming format09:08
AxlRoseI know what mwv stands for lol :P09:08
gnomefreakAlexLatchford: do yuou know if they are DRM encoded?09:09
gnomefreakthe wmv hes trying to watch09:09
AlexLatchfordhmm, no idea09:09
AxlRoseAlexLatchford: so do I need to install the codec or not09:10
gnomefreakw32codecs wont play DRM encoded wmvs09:10
gnomefreakAxlRose: yes09:10
AxlRosebecause if it's potentially illegal i don't want to install it :P09:10
AxlRoseif I don't need to09:10
gnomefreakAxlRose: This package is not available from the Ubuntu repositories due to licensing and legal restrictions09:11
AxlRosewell no ones gonna bust down my door are they :P09:11
AlexLatchfordwell I presume its not, I am using totem-xine and I can see the file09:11
gnomefreakbtw autocrapix has them but i strongly advise you to not use it at all09:12
AlexLatchfordI would install the totem-xine plugin for firefox, it seems to do the job on most embedded movies09:12
AxlRoseI can try that09:12
AlexLatchfordhmm, but that doesn't really solve the bug lol09:12
AxlRoseAlexLatchford: should totem-xine show up in adept?09:14
asacAxlRose: search for codecs09:14
asacinstall xine extra plugin09:14
AlexLatchfordadept is synaptic for KDE right?09:15
AxlRosei get libxine-extracodecs09:15
AlexLatchfordshould do then yes09:15
AxlRosedo I need to have totem installed for this to work lol09:16
AxlRoseohh I think found it09:17
AxlRosetotem-mozilla ???09:17
asacbut then you won't use mplayer anymore I guess :)09:17
AxlRosehow do I specify which plugin firefox uses?09:18
AlexLatchfordI would suppose you would uninstall the other one09:18
asacmaybe the plugin packages do even conflict?09:19
gnomefreaktotem and totem-xine ther eis also a totem-xine-plugin or totem-plugin09:19
AxlRosei installed totem-mozilla...tried the video...still no luck!!09:21
gnomefreakAxlRose: you didnt install totem-xine09:21
AxlRosegnomefreak:  i think it was already intalled09:22
gnomefreakAxlRose: open synaptic and serach for totem install totem-xine and if you se ea plugin  for totem install it09:22
AxlRoseNow it says:  Video codec not handled Windows media player 909:24
gnomefreakim taking the rest of day for other work. dont forget meeting in -meeting tomorrow (i think)09:24
gnomefreakAxlRose: its most likely DRM encoded09:24
AxlRoseAlexLatchford said it worked from him...didn't he?09:25
asacAck ;)09:25
gnomefreakAxlRose: apt-cache policy totem-xine09:25
gnomefreakwhat doe sit say version installed?09:26
AxlRosealso it looks like totem-xine uninstalled totem-mozilla09:29
gnomefreaklike it should09:29
asacdoes kde/kubuntu have (parts of) gnome by default? for instance, gnome-control-panel or at least gconftool-2 ?09:32
AxlRoseok...so i restarted firefox...and tried to watch the video again and it says I don't even have a plugin for watching videos installed09:32
asachmm actually bug 52646 is a valid bug ... its about the lack of proper kde integration of firefox09:35
UbugtuMalone bug 52646 in firefox "send link does nothing" [Medium,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/5264609:35
gnomefreakasac: nope not valid because you can set thunderbird and firefox as defaults09:39
gnomefreaki do it all the time09:40
asacin about:config?09:40
asacor kde?09:40
gnomefreakff in update-alternatives and thunderbird in the system settings09:40
gnomefreakin kde09:40
gnomefreakoh and feisty will havebetter intergation09:41
asacyeah ... there is a debconf script for thunderbird ... but none for firefox09:41
AxlRosefirefox is my default09:41
gnomefreakasac: update-alternatives for firefox09:41
AxlRoseand I didn't do anything special09:41
gnomefreakAxlRose: gnome or kde?09:42
asacah :)09:42
gnomefreakjust because people file bugs without asking for support isnt our problem09:42
gnomefreakbugs are problems with programs not people09:43
asachow about an enhancement bug?09:47
asacenhance kde integration - mailto: handler is not configurable in kde control panel?09:49
asaci guess its control center ;)09:49
asacisn't it?09:49
asacok, have a nice evening :) cu10:22
crimsungnomefreak: in and out this afternoon10:27
gnomefreakcrimsun: have you ever built firefox for ubuntu? i want to try my hand at it but debian nolonger has it so im not sure how to do it maybe gran ubuntus and instead of debian grab mozillas build?10:53
AlexLatchfordman trying to write a mutli-user permission and grouping system is a little harder than it seems10:58
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UbugtuNew bug: #48617 in firefox (main) "galeon says it is Firefox via ssh URI" [Low,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/4861711:05

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