[12:41] New bug: #83132 in firefox (main) "Firefox freezes Ubuntu Suddenly - Reboot needed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83132 [12:41] I find it difficult to believe that FF is causing these system freezes [12:42] is it trampling something in ram? (stacksmashing would be caught) [12:42] is it triggering an X driver boog? [12:49] i won't mock biology, just realize we physicist created the A bomb :) [12:50] you mean the mathematicians, but whatever. === Admiral_Chicago think nuclear reactors go against Laws of Thermodynamics. [01:26] im willing to bet bug 83132 beryl is causing the freeze. it does it with latest beryl :) [01:26] Malone bug 83132 in firefox "Firefox freezes Ubuntu Suddenly - Reboot needed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83132 [01:27] reboot isnt needed hes just impatiant(sp) [06:51] New bug: #83171 in firefox (main) "www.sony.com bug when using the menu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83171 === AlexLatchford [n=alex@82-44-193-109.cable.ubr07.haye.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === hjmf [n=hjmf@87.Red-83-40-226.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [11:50] New bug: #83194 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashes when switching video mode at filecabi.net" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83194 === jwendell [n=wendell@ubuntu/member/wendell] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [12:10] New bug: #83197 in firefox (main) "crash on wine" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83197 === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [01:33] guys we need a few :responses made for the wiki. if someone whats to right them let me know (im not good with coming up with responses [03:21] who has rebult ff lately? [03:26] New bug: #83229 in firefox (main) "could not close window with ctrl-W until I clicked on the background" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83229 [05:00] anyone know why firefox-dom-inspector is not in the LP source-packages when trying to set source package on a bug? [05:03] seems to be built in firefox :( [06:06] New bug: #45357 in firefox (main) "Firefox does not react on keyboard input anymore when opening certain pages" [Medium,Rejected] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45357 [06:14] crimsun: you here? === asac [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [06:51] New bug: #52646 in firefox (main) "send link does nothing" [Medium,Rejected] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52646 [07:01] New bug: #63201 in firefox (main) "spreadsheet.google.com freezes the whole system" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/63201 [07:10] New bug: #65694 in firefox (main) "bookmark crash" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/65694 [07:11] hi! ... is this the normal pace at which serious bugs come in? [07:11] asac: those aren't serious bugs [07:11] :) [07:12] those are being closed by me [07:12] lol [07:12] those are mostly crash reports. [07:12] thanks john [07:12] notice either rejected or fix released [07:12] :) [07:13] so what is the policy ... on crashers ? :) [07:13] asac: file a ug report :) [07:13] bug even === gnomefreak trying to get caught up with bugs today [07:14] asac: well, with crashes we close most of them because they aren't reproduceable [07:14] secondly, many of them are due to flash, totem, et al [07:15] aha ... is flash, totem a temporary issue or a regression? [07:15] not sure what you mean [07:18] I mean ... since when get that 'many' crash reports filed that are due to flash? was this introduced by some recent upload? [07:20] asac: no, it was fixed by a recent upload (Flash player 9) that was updated after 2 years [07:20] New bug: #83270 in firefox (main) "Firefox closed down after completing the loading of a page" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83270 [07:20] Admiral_Chicago: i got a bug if you want to look at it and give your opinion if you have time. bug #83229 [07:20] Malone bug 83229 in firefox "could not close window with ctrl-W until I clicked on the background" [Undecided,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83229 === gnomefreak really needs to find a local to report a bug on for ff [07:21] gnomefreak: which one [07:22] oh i see [07:22] the bug above for you to opinion on [07:25] i don't understand this statement "ounds like you had to click the emtpy space becasue the firefox window wasnt the focused window." [07:26] Admiral_Chicago: if you have terminl open with firefox behind it that key combo wont do anything (firefox in background == not focused [07:26] )* [07:28] okay so I have a window open (gobby) and gobby focus. Fx is in the background, no focus. then what am I supposed to do [07:30] he states he has to click on ff background anywhere than use the key combo. makes me think he has window open infront of ff [07:31] assume you have firefox open ... click on the desktop next to it -> window gets deactivated ... loses focus .... then no input will go to ffox [07:31] so try it without clicking on ff background [07:32] I had Akregator open in front of it (with focus) and I hit ctrl + W and nothing happened [07:32] correctme if im wrong but to use ff under wine you need windows version of ff and windows version of flash coorect? [07:32] yes [07:33] Admiral_Chicago: thats what makes me think it is users fault [07:33] good :) [07:34] gnomefreak: seems like we don't want an unfocused window reacting to keystrokes no? [07:34] we only want focused windows reacting to key strokes [07:34] mozillas used to have hard-to-reproduce focus bugs. Hard to say if this report is really about such a case. [07:34] other wise you will end up with major issues [07:35] exactly. [07:35] not sure if i should wait for his reply but i assume so [07:35] well it is Rob Collins, he wouldn't be leaving a bug report if it wasn't good [07:35] New bug: #67604 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashes when closing the window" [Medium,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67604 === Admiral_Chicago goes to study [07:47] Good work today John [07:49] ty AlexLatchford [07:50] AlexLatchford: i have one of your bugs in my window atm not sure what the hell to do with it. i think its totem causing ff to crash :( [07:50] number? [07:51] bug 69382 [07:51] Malone bug 69382 in firefox "Firefox freezes on audio files when right clicking, Save Link As" [Medium,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69382 [07:51] i just commented on it [07:51] hmm ok === gnomefreak should check my mail :( im betting im flooding peoples mail [07:51] (just updating wiki, 1 sec) [07:53] Hmm I have seen this bug happening quite a bit [07:53] gimme 10 minutes to look for duplicates [07:54] ty make sure they are all using gstreamer :) [07:54] yeah I will do [07:55] New bug: #69315 in firefox (main) "random crash" [Medium,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69315 [07:55] thank you [07:57] gnomefreak: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/72018 [07:57] Malone bug 72018 in firefox "crash gtk_style_realize Segfault when clicking back after failing to watch a video" [Medium,Confirmed] [07:57] It doesn't say which plugin that user is using though [07:57] but the behaviour seems similar [07:58] also.. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/77564 [07:58] Malone bug 77564 in firefox "Crash while trying to save an rtf from a GoogleMail email (but had just failed to open an rm file with Totem)" [Medium,Unconfirmed] [07:58] might be of interest [07:59] looking [08:00] New bug: #69382 in firefox (main) "Firefox freezes on audio files when right clicking, Save Link As" [Medium,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69382 [08:02] hmmmmm this bug is a good one i think i will add a response to wiki. thank you :) [08:04] gonna add one about totem versiona nd what package [08:04] have to think of how to say it [08:04] hmm j [08:04] k even [08:05] so -gstreamer makes ff crash but -xine not? [08:07] asac: when they answer we will know. but -gstreamer has had crash issues in past where -xine didnt [08:08] AlexLatchford: what do you think of: Which totem pacakge do you have installed? [08:08] Which version of the totem package is installed? [08:09] would like to make it a bit easier to understand but not sure how to word it [08:09] ah ha [08:09] meh, I have -xine installed [08:09] haven't had too many problems with it [08:10] some videos wont play, but no crashes [08:11] well its up there. feel free to change it if you think it can be worded better. [08:14] okay, I have the responses list on my todo, along with /Bugs and /Bugs/Triage so it will get a make over soon enough :) [08:15] I have cleaned up most of the rest of the wiki, just needs a few more things done to it on the actual main pages now === gnomefreak hates writing wikis i can fix them but coming up with words to use not my thing :) [08:16] lol, I am the opposite === gnomefreak wonders if ther eis a tab limit ff can handle [08:19] gnomefreak: which page did you edit? [08:20] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/Triage/Responses?action=show [08:22] we need to come up with a more general part instead of My IBM T43 had the same problem. === gnomefreak doesnt have IB< T43 [08:23] Some people have reported that their IBM T43 had the same problem. maybe? [08:23] hmmm ... maybe it would be better to ask for a complete list of plugins as well as extensions in response to crash reports? e.g. like opening about:plugins and providing some info from there? [08:24] i thought of that and had asked someone to do that but. its a long list (mostly java related) [08:24] yeah ... from what I have seen so far, the apport stuff is nice, but tends to trigger lots of duplicates. which are a pita to deal with properly. [08:24] who did you talk with? [08:24] some bug i did today [08:24] i asked for it [08:25] ah okay [08:25] New bug: #69522 in firefox (main) "/tmp/_usr_lib_firefox_firefox-bin.souko0.crash" [Medium,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69522 [08:25] i currently look at about:plugins ... sadly I cannot identify from that info if its a -gstreamer or -xine totem :/ [08:25] New bug: #69460 in firefox (main) "Crashes after filling up my disk space" [Medium,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69460 [08:27] you can but let me check [08:28] thought you could. i remember seeing xine in them before but with ff 3.0 and feisty i dont see it like that anymore [08:28] cant remember if i even have totem-xine installed [08:28] there were depends issues earlier in devel [08:28] i have edgy ... and don't see it either [08:31] hmmm totem-xine ships from universe ... same for -gstreamer? [08:33] gstreamer is in main [08:33] i believe its installed from installer [08:34] interesting ... totem-gstreamer is in main .. totem-xine is in universe/gnome ... but both are build from same source :) [08:35] xine has restricted formats in it [08:36] it plays most of w32codecs by default [08:36] opening a popup crashes ff? dont open the damn pop ups [08:36] hehe === AxlRose [n=dillon@65-23-184-13-host.drtel.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [08:39] AxlRose: ask gnomefreak i think he's around [08:40] also AlexLatchford might be able to help [08:40] huh? [08:40] excellent [08:40] I've got a question for you concerning the mplayer plugin [08:41] AxlRose: ask it we might beable to help [08:41] gnomefreak: I'm trying to watch a movie trailer on yahoo.com...and all I get is sound and now picture [08:41] gnomefreak: *no picture [08:41] gnomefreak: it shows the mplayer plugin logo, and where the streaming is comming from [08:42] what extentsion is the file? does it work if you download it and play it [08:42] AxlRose: missing codec? [08:42] I don't think I can download it...it streams [08:43] should beable to but that is up to yahoo if they let you. [08:43] asac: you have mplayer installed [08:43] or AlexLatchford do you? [08:44] unfortunately not .... but I remember to remember :) that mplayer (once) will not completely give up if for instance video codec is missing but audio is there. [08:44] AxlRose: your on edgy? [08:44] AxlRose: how did you install it? [08:45] yes edgu [08:45] *edgy [08:45] and I installed it using Automatix [08:45] New bug: #70024 in firefox (main) "Crash in Firefox when printing" [Medium,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70024 [08:47] well that leaves me out of this. im done tracking issues for automatix (try asking in #automatix?) [08:48] hmm cannot install it ... no support for amd64 [08:48] AxlRose: does mplayer work correctly otherwise? [08:48] asac: sure does [08:52] try to install all codecs if you haven't done so already ... otherwise ... its hard to say. [08:53] sorry :-/ [08:53] where would I find the codecs? [08:55] New bug: #83288 in mozilla-firefox-adblock (universe) "firefox adblock doesn't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83288 [08:56] ubotu tell AxlRose about restricted [08:56] AxlRose: check your pm [08:56] hmmm don't know which package it is ... there should be a w32codecs package available somewhere [08:57] gnomefreak: I don't get a pm [08:57] asac: i have a deb on my site :) [08:57] is taht all you need is the w32codecs? [08:57] gnomefreak: yeah then ... AxlRose try that :) [08:57] maybe ... just digging around ;) [08:58] think i uploaded it on the new site [08:58] if you give me a minute i will upload it [08:58] there is nothing with w32codecs in the name in adept [08:58] AxlRose: you wont find it there [08:59] oh [08:59] AxlRose: give me a few minutes [08:59] k [08:59] AxlRose: be warned it, might be illegal afaik :-P [08:59] im uploading them now i will giv eyou link when its done [08:59] k [09:00] about 15 minutes or so [09:01] meh, was in the shower. [09:02] link me to the video in question please [09:02] dig about in the html code, see if the actual format is supported [09:03] AxlRose: ping [09:03] http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1808716430/info [09:03] ta [09:05] hmm the video plays for me using -xine, seems to be in .wmv format [09:05] AxlRose: the older ones are here http://www.youmortals.com/ubuntu/packages/ not much is different [09:05] ttp://mediaframe.yahoo.com/buildlist.asp?p=movies&f=1808716430&type=t&t=Transformers&id=1540540-180626&m=wmv&r=1000&l=SAV&ext=1 [09:05] http://mediaframe.yahoo.com/buildlist.asp?p=movies&f=1808716430&type=t&t=Transformers&id=1540540-180626&m=wmv&r=1000&l=SAV&ext=1 [09:05] changed things around and havent gotten all the uploads done in the new place [09:06] they are wmv the w32codecs should do it [09:06] yes [09:07] so it's not playing because mplayer doesn't support wmv? [09:07] no mplayer should support it [09:07] correct [09:07] so what do I need the codecs for [09:07] wmv == window media video [09:07] AxlRose: the package you installed does not ship the codec ... thats all [09:07] no wait [09:08] the w32codecs on the link i gave you above [09:08] the format it is using is .asf, the streaming format [09:08] I know what mwv stands for lol :P [09:09] AlexLatchford: do yuou know if they are DRM encoded? [09:09] the wmv hes trying to watch [09:09] hmm, no idea [09:10] AlexLatchford: so do I need to install the codec or not [09:10] w32codecs wont play DRM encoded wmvs [09:10] AxlRose: yes [09:10] because if it's potentially illegal i don't want to install it :P [09:10] if I don't need to [09:10] alright [09:11] AxlRose: This package is not available from the Ubuntu repositories due to licensing and legal restrictions [09:11] well no ones gonna bust down my door are they :P [09:11] well I presume its not, I am using totem-xine and I can see the file [09:12] btw autocrapix has them but i strongly advise you to not use it at all [09:12] I would install the totem-xine plugin for firefox, it seems to do the job on most embedded movies [09:12] I can try that [09:12] hmm, but that doesn't really solve the bug lol [09:14] AlexLatchford: should totem-xine show up in adept? [09:14] AxlRose: search for codecs [09:14] install xine extra plugin [09:15] adept is synaptic for KDE right? [09:15] i get libxine-extracodecs [09:15] yes [09:15] should do then yes [09:16] do I need to have totem installed for this to work lol [09:17] ohh I think found it [09:17] totem-mozilla ??? [09:17] yes [09:17] but then you won't use mplayer anymore I guess :) [09:18] how do I specify which plugin firefox uses? [09:18] I would suppose you would uninstall the other one [09:19] maybe the plugin packages do even conflict? [09:19] totem and totem-xine ther eis also a totem-xine-plugin or totem-plugin [09:21] i installed totem-mozilla...tried the video...still no luck!! [09:21] AxlRose: you didnt install totem-xine [09:22] gnomefreak: i think it was already intalled [09:22] AxlRose: open synaptic and serach for totem install totem-xine and if you se ea plugin for totem install it [09:24] Now it says: Video codec not handled Windows media player 9 [09:24] im taking the rest of day for other work. dont forget meeting in -meeting tomorrow (i think) [09:24] AxlRose: its most likely DRM encoded [09:25] AlexLatchford said it worked from him...didn't he? [09:25] Ack ;) [09:25] AxlRose: apt-cache policy totem-xine [09:25] hmm [09:26] what doe sit say version installed? [09:26] 2. [09:26] 2.16.2 [09:29] also it looks like totem-xine uninstalled totem-mozilla [09:29] like it should [09:30] k [09:32] does kde/kubuntu have (parts of) gnome by default? for instance, gnome-control-panel or at least gconftool-2 ? [09:32] no [09:32] ok...so i restarted firefox...and tried to watch the video again and it says I don't even have a plugin for watching videos installed [09:35] hmm actually bug 52646 is a valid bug ... its about the lack of proper kde integration of firefox [09:35] Malone bug 52646 in firefox "send link does nothing" [Medium,Rejected] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52646 [09:39] asac: nope not valid because you can set thunderbird and firefox as defaults [09:39] when? [09:39] where? [09:40] i do it all the time [09:40] in about:config? [09:40] or kde? [09:40] ff in update-alternatives and thunderbird in the system settings [09:40] in kde [09:41] oh and feisty will havebetter intergation [09:41] yeah ... there is a debconf script for thunderbird ... but none for firefox [09:41] firefox is my default [09:41] asac: update-alternatives for firefox [09:41] and I didn't do anything special [09:42] AxlRose: gnome or kde? [09:42] ah :) [09:42] KDE [09:42] just because people file bugs without asking for support isnt our problem [09:43] bugs are problems with programs not people [09:47] how about an enhancement bug? [09:48] wishlist? [09:48] yes [09:49] enhance kde integration - mailto: handler is not configurable in kde control panel? [09:49] i guess its control center ;) [09:49] isn't it? [10:22] ok, have a nice evening :) cu [10:27] gnomefreak: in and out this afternoon [10:53] crimsun: have you ever built firefox for ubuntu? i want to try my hand at it but debian nolonger has it so im not sure how to do it maybe gran ubuntus and instead of debian grab mozillas build? [10:58] man trying to write a mutli-user permission and grouping system is a little harder than it seems === Admiral_Chicago [n=Freddy@st074039212101.monm.edu] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [11:05] New bug: #48617 in firefox (main) "galeon says it is Firefox via ssh URI" [Low,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48617