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pppoe_dudehi should 128 mb ram be sufficient for smooth running of xubuntu on a g3 500ghz?12:54
kalikianaprobably yes12:55
kalikianaof course it depends on applications12:56
pppoe_dudebut, how much does the desktop use on idle?12:56
Commander-Crowemine uses 2612:57
Commander-Crowe26 Megs12:58
HawxI just installed xubuntu on my 500mhz g3 with 256mb, seems good so far01:03
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somerville32333mhz w/ 256mb here01:07
somerville32Used to have 128mb01:07
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gunny01what is the apache2 htdocs/www directory?01:21
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aboutblankI can't run Katapult on my xubuntu installation. When I hit alt-space it brings up a context menu. Any ideas?01:28
somerville32aboutblank, Applications > Settings > Window Manager Settings > Keyboard01:29
aboutblankwhen I do that, I get "these settings cannot work with your current window manager"01:30
aboutblanksays that whether i'm running xfce4 or Beryl01:30
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moonikerHello! Does anyone know how to do a sever/xubuntu install with a desktop ISO? Do I have to specifically download the server or xubuntu ISO?02:09
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flashxfusioncan someone help with a problem02:23
crimsunmooniker: download the server iso.02:24
moonikerThanks, crimsun.02:25
moonikerI think I'll try the minimalCD.02:25
flashxfusioni have a problem logging into xubuntu. can anyone help me with it02:27
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Otherworldlyis xubuntu recommended for low system specs? (733Mhz, 256MB SDRAM)02:29
moonikerYeah, those would work with xubuntu.02:30
moonikerflash, are you an experienced Unix/Linux user?02:31
flashxfusionno this is my 1st tiem02:32
moonikerOh, and your starting with xubuntu?02:33
flashxfusionis that bad?02:33
flashxfusioni read on some forums02:33
flashxfusionand they said xubuntu is good fo beginners02:34
moonikerDo you have an old/slow computer?02:34
flashxfusionathlon classic 500 mhz 128 mb sdram02:35
moonikerIf your computer can handle regular Ubuntu, I'd suggest starting with that. However, I haven't used xubuntu in maybe two years, so maybe it's changed since then.02:35
moonikerOh, yeah, you definitely have to go with xubuntu.02:36
moonikerI'm actually installing it right now on a similar system.02:36
flashxfusioni login for like 2 seconds and it just kicks me back out to the login screen02:36
flashxfusioni dont kno what is going on02:36
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moonikerDid you install it with the alt CD?02:38
flashxfusionya i used the alternate cd using command line install02:38
moonikerso you did like apt-get xubuntu or something like that?02:39
flashxfusioni did like sudo apt update then upgrade then install xubuntu-desktop02:39
moonikerso then when you boot up, it gives you a login screen and you login and then after a few second it kicks youback to the login?02:40
moonikerdoes it show you anything?02:41
moonikerdoes it click or look like it's trying to get in and then gives up?02:41
flashxfusionit shows me the desktop02:41
flashxfusionthen i go back to the login screen02:41
moonikerthat sounds kinda familiar actually.02:42
moonikerhave you searched the forum?02:42
flashxfusionive been googling but i coudlnt find anything02:42
moonikerLike I said, I haven't used/installed xubuntu in two years, so maybe I'm about to face what you in a couple hours or so. It does sound familiar.02:44
flashxfusionok ill check out the forums and see if i can find anything there02:44
flashxfusionthanks for the help02:44
moonikerSorry I'm not much any.02:45
moonikerGood luck.02:45
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j1mchey, all.  is there a program that's equivalent to something like MS Paint?03:54
Commander-Crowe!gimp | j1mc03:55
ubotuj1mc: gimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.03:55
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j1mcthank you . . . i know about gimp, though.  i just want something really simple.03:57
ubotutuxpaint: A paint program for young children. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.9.15b-3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 112 kB, installed size 328 kB03:58
j1mcheh . . . thanks, Commander-Crowe.  I'll have to check that out.  :)04:02
j1mclooks like i'm installing that is part of edubuntu.  sweet.  :)04:02
j1mcinstalling something . . .   :)04:03
Commander-CroweI'm gonna try that out sooner or later04:06
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spasticteapotDoes anyone here knowof an Xubuntu-compatible Wifi manager that works?04:07
spasticteapotIt's really bleeping annoying to have to use iwconfig all the time.04:07
bur[n] erspasticteapot, xterm & iwconfig :)04:07
Commander-Crowena j/k j/k04:07
spasticteapotHmm...I'll check it out.04:07
spasticteapotOh..never mind.04:07
bur[n] erspasticteapot, check out wifi radar?04:07
Commander-Croweyou can still check it out04:07
Commander-Croweits pretty cool04:08
spasticteapotI'm trying to set it up so it uses a specific IP address for ONE ESSID.04:08
Commander-Croweyou might like it04:08
spasticteapotIf it can't use it, it should use DHCP instead.04:08
spasticteapotIt's bleeping annoying.04:08
Commander-CroweI did all that with the normal networking manager that came with Xubuntu04:08
spasticteapotWon't work well.04:08
bur[n] erspasticteapot, this isn't your solution... but have you tried just using mac ip reservation on the router?04:08
bur[n] ercan your router do it?04:09
bur[n] ermy netgear can i know04:09
bur[n] erwhen at home, my laptop is static so i can port map and such... but when i'm out and about... i'm dhcp04:10
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JerryNSExcuse me, I'm attempting to install Xubuntu, using Smart Boot Manager and the latest Xubuntu release burnt to a CD.  When I attempt to run the CD through SBM, I get an error "0x0C".  Has this happened to any of you before?  How did you solve the problem?05:15
firefishwhy use SBM05:16
JerryNSMy computer wouldn't recognize the CD when attempting to use it alone.05:17
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firefishsorry i've never met this problem before :(05:19
JerryNSThank you anyway.05:19
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aboutblankJerryNS: did you change your boot priority in BIOS?05:25
JerryNSUsing SBM?05:25
JerryNSOh, sorry, I mis-read.05:28
JerryNSYes, I changed it to CD-ROM.05:28
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firefishand still u cant boot from CD-ROM?05:28
JerryNSCorrect, one moment and I'll tell you exactly what it says.05:28
JerryNSIt says "Invalid Boot Diskette (new line) Insert BOOT diskette in A:"05:29
JerryNSI don't know why it's looking in A.05:30
firefishmaybe u have set first boot to floopy dist05:30
JerryNSIt says "1st Boot Device [ATAPI CDROM] "05:31
firefishor there's something wrong with your CD,it's not a bootable CD05:31
bigfuzzyjesusJerryNS, did you burn iso correctly05:31
JerryNSYes, as best I could.  I didn't extract, and set it to Test first.05:32
JerryNSI had to use a different program than suggested, because at first the disk just burnt a fragment, finished, and ruined my CD.  But the second burning program seemed to work correctly.05:33
bigfuzzyjesusJerryNS, what did you burn it with?05:33
JerryNSI'll have to search for the name, sorry, one moment please.05:33
JerryNSImgBurn is the program I used second.05:33
bigfuzzyjesusJerryNS, oh05:36
bigfuzzyjesushere lemme look up a tutorial real quick05:36
bigfuzzyjesusits what i use and works quite well05:36
JerryNSThank you,05:37
JerryNSbigfuzzyjesus, Thank you!  I'll try doing what the page says now.05:40
bigfuzzyjesusJerryNS, np05:41
bigfuzzyjesusJerryNS, tell me how it works out05:41
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JerryNSWoops, I closed the top to my notebook and it exited me.  I'm not yet accustomed to using this one.05:43
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chris_i need some help installing a driver for my modem05:52
chris_anyone here05:53
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crimsuna whole...3 minutes.05:55
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crimsunthat guy just doesn't get it.05:58
bigfuzzyjesuscrimsun, who05:59
crimsunchris_ [n=chris@tcd110.ras.itlnet.net] 05:59
bigfuzzyjesuscrimsun, oh06:00
crimsunit's not as if we're all sitting around on a Saturday night waiting for him to appear.06:00
ChickenGirl*gasp* you mean we're not ??06:01
crimsunok, maybe _I_ am, but I can't speak for y'all06:01
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ChickenGirlgreetings priit_06:03
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stinkythe1ok, n00b question coming up06:08
stinkythe1i just installed xubuntu, and rebooted, and now i'm sitting at a terminal06:08
stinkythe1how do i get xfce to come up?06:08
crimsunhow did you install Xubuntu?06:10
crimsunwhich version did you install?06:11
stinkythe1lemme check06:12
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stinkythe1i got 6.10 edgy eft06:13
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stinkythe1the alternate install cd06:13
crimsunok, log in at the terminal06:14
stinkythe1i did06:14
crimsuncheck if gdm is running06:14
crimsunpidof gdm06:14
stinkythe1well, that really didn't do anything06:15
firefishps aux | grep gdm06:17
crimsunif it didn't return anything, then it's not running06:18
stinkythe1i got something06:18
somerville32does it say "grep gdm" ? :P06:18
stinkythe1at the end of that line06:18
firefishonly return one line?06:19
stinkythe1its got like 1000    6627    0.0    0.3    3000    820    tty1    S+    23:42    0:00   grep gdm06:19
firefishthen ur gdm is not running06:19
crimsunnot that I said that before or anything.06:20
firefishtry  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start06:20
stinkythe1thanks man06:20
firefishmy pleasure:)06:21
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cyberyakI'm back.  trying to have my cake and eat it too.06:46
cyberyakI am trying to run apmd *AND* installing xubuntu-destop06:47
cyberyakonly with a k06:47
cyberyakI have now made a blank package with equivs that "Provides: acpi, acpid, acpi-support" (I have also broken those out into 3 separate packages)06:49
cyberyakupon using apt-get install xubuntu-desktop, it still wants to install acpi06:50
PuMpErNiCkLeIt shouldn't be too difficult - boot with apm=on and noacpi, and you should have apmd instead of acpi.06:50
cyberyaknoacpi flag doesn't seem to work, but acpi=off does.06:50
cyberyakI didn't add the apm=on06:51
cyberyaki just installed apmd and it started06:51
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cyberyakmoment of truth, the reboot.06:53
cyberyakno dice06:54
PuMpErNiCkLeError message?06:55
cyberyakactually, I guess at this point I can just let it install the acpi packages.06:55
cyberyakit won't be able to use them06:55
cyberyakbut that is my annoyance. xubuntu-desktop requires acpid and acpi-support as packages.06:56
cyberyakI think I'm too tired at this point to think clearly about what I was initially trying to accomplish beyond using apm instead of acpi.06:57
cyberyakthanks PuMpErNiCkLe!06:58
cyberyakI will have to rethink what my next step is.06:59
cyberyakthe main benefit of xubuntu-desktop is if I do a dist-upgrade with apt, correct?07:00
cyberyakso when I go from edgy to feisty, it will handle the deps.07:01
PuMpErNiCkLe'xubuntu-desktop' as a package exists only because of its dependencies.07:01
cyberyakso, if I install only the packages I need, I may run into problems at some point upgrading.07:01
cyberyakright a meta package07:02
cyberyakactually, the line before last was more of a question.07:03
PuMpErNiCkLeFor distribution upgrades, yes.07:04
cyberyakso I will have to decide if that matters.07:17
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cyberyakcould I not just change my apt sources and update?07:20
cyberyakhow high is the probability that I would hose something or be hosed?07:21
PuMpErNiCkLeChange your sources in what way?07:26
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delaneyhey gang07:27
cyberyakonce feisty is stable, switching my apt sources to the feisty structure.07:28
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PuMpErNiCkLeDepends how much you've changed your system, I guess.  The meta-package ensures that e.g; all package transitions (not just version upgrades, but replacements as well) occur properly.07:34
delaneyHi, I just installed xubuntu from the feisty latest daily and was wondering how i get my icons like the trash back on my desktop?07:34
delaneyit shows launchers and such but the filesystem home and trash are missing07:34
cyberyakI could see this breaking a bunch of stuff later.07:38
delaneythe icons?07:40
cyberyakno, the stuff I have been screwing with.07:45
delaneyah ok07:47
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josys36Yo, who's here?09:00
nonamei am09:00
josys36Have you tried Beryl in xubuntu?09:00
nonameno but in ubuntu09:00
josys36love it just about as much in xubuntu as ubuntu.09:01
nonameok. i haven't used it very much. it doesn't run so very good at my computer09:01
josys36It handles my intel graphics well.09:03
josys36I was kinda surprised.09:03
josys36People really do get a kick out of the effects.09:03
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nonamedo you know which loging manager there is in xubuntu?09:04
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josys36loging manager?09:04
nonameor what it is called09:05
nonamethe thing that handles the login09:05
nonamei want to change the theme of it09:05
josys36I believe. The same as in Ubuntu.09:05
josys36I think the command is gdm-setup09:06
josys36you need to run that using sudo.09:06
nonameit doesn't wirk09:07
josys36or gdm-config09:08
josys36can't remember which command it is, and I am running windows right now09:08
nonameaha okey09:08
nonamethanks anayway09:08
josys36just started up my Ubuntu laptop09:10
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josys36Did that work?09:12
josys36For the most part I bounce back and forth between XFCE and Gnome.09:14
josys36Can't decide which I want to use.09:14
nonameyep it did work :)09:15
nonamewhere is all the themes located?09:16
josys36now that I don't know.09:18
nonamefound them09:18
josys36where are they?09:20
josys36ah OK09:20
nonamenow I have many new themes :)(09:24
nonameg2g. bye09:24
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gordonjcphas anyone got any words of wisdom on getting nvidia-glx working in Xubuntu 6.1012:25
TheSheepgordonjcp: just install nvidia-glx, make sure the restricted modules are for the kernel you use, and replace "nv" with "nvidia" in xorg.conf12:26
gordonjcpTheSheep: yes, doesn't work12:26
gordonjcp2 tics and I'll get you the incredibly helpful error message12:27
gordonjcpError: unable to load nvidia kernel driver!12:27
gordonjcp^ that's it12:27
TheSheepgordonjcp: check dmesg12:27
gordonjcpnothing more about it in Xorg.0.log12:28
gordonjcpnothing at all about it in dmesg12:28
TheSheepgordonjcp: make sure the uname -a shows the same kernel version as the linux-restricted-modules you have installed12:29
TheSheepgordonjcp: also, for some older nvidia cards, you must use nvidia-legacy drivers, as nvidia dropped support for them12:29
gordonjcpseems so12:30
gordonjcpIt's a geforce 4, it *should* be supported12:30
gordonjcpis there a list, or some way to get the driver to tell me what's supported?12:32
hyper_ch!nvidia | gordonjcp12:34
ubotugordonjcp: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:34
gordonjcphyper_ch: been there, done that, had it working before *many many times*12:36
gordonjcphyper_ch: it doesn't work, and doesn't produce a helpful error message12:36
gordonjcpoh hang on, it's different this time12:36
gordonjcpwhen I do sudo nvidia-glx-config enable12:37
gordonjcpI get "Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed12:37
gordonjcpthe nvidia driver for your running kernel.12:37
hyper_chsudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules`uname -a`12:38
hyper_chsudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -a`12:38
gordonjcpdone that12:40
gordonjcpdoesn't work12:40
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gordonjcpodd that it was working perfectly before though12:41
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Grey_LokiAnyone here use the 'unrar' command line program?01:54
Grey_LokiNope, nevermind. I was being t3h st00pidz.01:57
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blizzis it possible to enable the logitech wireless keyboard encryption in linux?02:16
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pk_butuI have soundcard CMI8738 but not detected in Xubuntu 6.10... I am a newbie...02:28
Grey_Lokipk_butu, is it a PCI-based card?02:29
Grey_LokiOr is it onboard?02:30
Grey_LokiIs it PCI based, or onboard?02:30
pk_butuPCI based card.....02:30
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Grey_LokiJust done a quick google, turned up this - http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php?product=65102:30
Grey_LokiHave you tried installing the ALSA drivers?02:31
pk_butunot yet...02:31
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Grey_LokiThey seem to be the best ones for it02:31
Grey_LokiALSA, or OSS.02:31
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP302:31
pk_butuokay let me check02:32
Grey_LokiI'm not actually that sure about how to go about installing ALSA. I think it's in one of the apt repositories, but someone else would have to help you with that02:32
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Grey_LokiHope you get it fixed - shouldn't be too difficult to install ALSA02:33
pk_butuokay...but can you tell me how to ensure whther ALSA is already selected or  not..02:34
pk_butuis in mixer setting??02:34
pk_butuI think alsa is installed in my PC02:35
pk_butuin synaptic package manager.... alsa-base...and alsa-utils backage is installed...02:36
pk_butushould I install some other package02:38
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pk_butuanybody has any idea how to debugg my sound card problem?03:06
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nonamethe clock on the computer is in am/pm. how do I change it to a 24 hours watch?03:25
TheSheepnoname: right click on it and select 'preferences'03:26
TheSheepnoname: sorry, 'properties'03:27
nonameand then?:S03:28
TheSheepthen check the 'use 24-hour clock' checkbox03:29
nonameI don't have that option:S03:29
nonameI use the orage clock03:29
TheSheepnoname: why didn't you say that?03:30
TheSheepnoname: put %H:%M into the box03:30
nonameoh okey. thanks:)03:31
blizzis there a way to activate that encryption feature for wireless logitech keyboards?03:32
graziepk_butu: Have you tried following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting. I wouldn't recommend going ALSA driver Compilation just yet though03:33
grazieTheSheep: who would know about ISO integrity on herd 3 images?03:34
pk_butuyah I am trying these...but not seemed to be working..03:35
TheSheepgrazie: no idea03:37
grazieTheSheep: do you know who might have an idea ;)?03:38
blizzi bet this "encryption" is defeatable with a single TI calculator ;-)03:38
graziepk_butu: have you ever had sound working?03:38
pk_butuyup.... in other distro..it is working fine..03:39
pk_butuactually I guess my xubuntu box..is trying to get the default..from onboard...not from PCI03:39
pk_butubut then I disable from the BIOS ..still it is showng problem..03:39
graziepk_butu: what does 'lspci | grep audio' give you?03:41
pk_butunothing :-(03:42
pk_butuin mixer..... I got device MPU-401 U03:42
pk_butubut no useful control under it..03:42
graziepk_butu: what distro works?03:43
pk_butuusing ALSA driver I think..03:44
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pk_butudo you have any basic configuration...that I may miss...?03:45
graziepk_butu: have tried using the xubuntu live cd?03:45
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pk_butuactually I have installed xubuntu....on my harddisk..03:46
pk_butuin liveCD also has some problem03:46
graziepk_butu: no sound?03:46
graziepk_butu: the link I gave you goes through basic settings. dunno what else to suggest. sorry.03:48
pk_butuits okay..thanks...I am still trying the the command given in that link...03:48
pk_butuas it seems.. it is not detecting in $lspci -v command...03:49
pk_butuI have a CD which contain driver for my sound card...can any body help how to configure my sound driver..03:51
graziepk_butu: your CD probably contains a Windows driver03:53
pk_butuit contains linux driver also03:53
graziepk_butu: are you saying 'lspci -v' gives you nothing?03:54
pk_butunot any info abt sound card03:54
graziepk_butu: can you pastebin the output?03:55
pk_butuyou mea n http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ in this link na?03:56
pk_butusure.. but 5 min..because my linux box in my PC and I am using net thru laptop.03:58
pk_butuyes I have done04:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about uart - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:03
graziepk_butu: back. your card isn't detected, but CMI8738 is quite common. Have tried searching the ubuntu forums?04:06
pk_butugot few discussion...04:07
pk_butubut not got solution to my problem..04:08
grazieif sounds works on other distros then there must be a solution04:09
pk_butuyah...do you want to have a look on the readme file of the driver I have..04:09
pk_butusome path I could not able to find...so unable to install..04:09
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grazieif there are no answers in the forums, send you problem to http://launchpad.net/support04:12
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nonamewhat is your favorite game in linux?04:13
pk_butugrazie: ok thanks....04:14
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biberaohow to change keyboard layout?04:31
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graziebiberao: what's your keyboard layout problem?04:41
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biberaoit tells me04:49
biberaocannot open04:49
biberaodisplay "default display"04:49
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graziebiberao: I'm sorry I don't understand what you telling me. What tells you?04:56
biberaoits says that04:57
biberaoi wanted to change my keyboard's layout04:58
biberaoto portuguese04:58
biberaoand i wanted to able to fix my lan card04:58
biberaowhich it detects as 8139 and it doesnt work04:58
biberaowhen i probe the module04:58
graziebiberao:  do you have portuguese language installed?04:59
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graziebiberao: Is your time zone set correctly?04:59
biberaoi tried to go back during the install04:59
biberaobut it didnt let me04:59
biberaoit said i didnt have a working network interface05:00
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flevourhello there05:00
graziebiberao: are you still installing?05:00
flevourhelp please ;-) how can purge the xfce configuration files without reinstalling?05:02
biberaograzie nope05:02
graziebiberao: i think some of your .desktop files maybe be incorrect05:03
biberaoi dont know05:04
biberaoim newbie05:04
graziebiberao: what are you trying to do when it tells you "cannot open"05:04
biberaosetxkboard -layout pt05:05
biberaoor whatever the command05:05
graziebiberao: 'Applications > Settings > Keyboard Settings' ?05:06
biberaoit doesnt have05:06
biberaoany option05:06
biberaofor that05:06
biberaothe layout cant be changed there05:07
graziebiberao: can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?05:08
biberaocant access the net05:13
graziebiberao: how are you on irc then?05:14
biberaograzie other pc05:14
graziebiberao: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf look for "kdb"05:15
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graziebiberao: sorry. got to go.05:22
biberaoi cant write |05:23
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biberaoi cant write |05:23
graziebiberao: what editor are you using?05:24
graziebiberao: prefix your command with 'sudo '05:26
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biberaosudo vim05:27
biberaowanna help me with my ethernet card?05:28
biberaoi give up05:28
biberaochanging to another one05:28
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yevgenyhow install AIGLX with ATI ?07:47
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TheSheepyevgeny: try asking on #ubuntu-glx (or was it -xgl?)07:48
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grazieTheSheep: shouldn't that be #ubuntu-effects?07:51
apokryphosyeah, but -xgl forwards you there anyway07:51
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BrendanMCan anyone suggest a good search utility for Xubuntu? I looked at Beagle, but it has a ton of GNOME dependencies.07:52
nonamecan anyone explain to me what amateur radio is?07:53
grazienoname: you serious?07:53
nonamegrazie: yeah... what? the only thing I have heard is something about private radiostations or something. I found a lot of stuff in synaptic under amateur radio. And I just want to know what it is07:54
grazienoname: google amateur radio07:55
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BrendanMit's just like radio broadcast by ordinary individuals with private FCC licenses (which are fairly easy to get for low-power stations)07:56
BrendanMso...search utilities anyone? (with a GUI...obviously I already have find and grep)07:57
apokryphosI still think it's worth using beagle, though last time I used ubuntu's implementation of it I had problems. Who knows, might be good now.07:59
grazieBrendanM: someone on the channel has written a tool called catfish (I think). never used it myself though08:00
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grazieBrendanM: found the link http://software.twotoasts.de/?page=catfish08:06
BrendanMok, cool. I was just looking for it in a repo and not finding it08:06
grazieBrendanM: doubt it'll be in the repos08:06
BrendanMit's not. Does it integrate with thunar?08:07
graziedunno...never used it08:07
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aboutblankI have 2 most likely related problems: xfdesktop will sometimes crash on login, and I seem to be launching things in twos on login. 2 gdm, 2 gaim, etc, and I have to click "restart" twice to get it to do anything. Where does the OS look for a list of startup items?08:09
aboutblankshould gdm even be starting if I'm using xfce?08:10
BrendanMwhat's that make alternative that creates a package for apt? is it like autoconfig or something?08:11
grazieaboutblank: yes, gdm is used as xubuntu desktop manager08:11
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kebjust installed Beryl.  anyone know how to get the panel back?08:22
kebi can see the panel window edge off my screen but i can't get it to appear08:23
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kalikianakeb: can you right-click and choose 'configure panel'? then you could move it.08:29
kebwell until i switched back to xfce4 window manager i couldnt right click it08:32
kebthe autohide feature does not seem to work in beryl08:33
kebmaybe the borders are too thin08:34
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tyler_anyone know how I can add a start up program to the session manager?08:40
kebtyler_ : right-click desktop, select Settings, select Autostarted applications08:45
tyler_keb I want to add a new session to the gdm session manager I just installed beryl08:46
kebhmm i did too08:47
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tyler_I followed a guide designed for ubuntu and made changes where necissary but I am at the end of the guide and at a part where you need to add a new session08:49
tyler_maybe it added it automagically on a reboot08:49
keboh i see.  yeah it should be there when you reboot08:50
kebdid you use that beryl-install-script08:50
tyler_keb no I followed http://lhansen.blogspot.com/2006/10/3d-desktop-beryl-and-xgl-on-ubuntu-edgy.html08:51
tyler_well might as well reboot and see what happens hopefully my computer dosnt puke all over itself08:52
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Hawxhey guys09:33
Hawxi installed xubuntu on my g3 imac yesterday, how do i browse my HFS partition now?09:34
maxamillionHawx: in the terminal type "cat /etc/fstab" and pastebin that, lemme see what it has detected09:36
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maxamillion!pastebin > Hawx09:37
maxamillionerrr ....09:37
maxamillion!pastebin | Hawx09:37
ubotuHawx: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)09:37
Hawxthanks, i'm here on irc with another machine though09:37
Hawx....I couldn't figure out how to install XChat in linux :09:37
Hawx..perhaps you could help me out with that first!09:38
maxamillionHawx: ah, thats something we can work on also (gaim will do irc in the mean time)09:38
maxamillionHawx: sure ...09:38
Grey_LokiSurely it's just a sudo apt-get install xchat?09:38
ubotuxchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.6-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 275 kB, installed size 760 kB09:38
maxamillionGrey_Loki: its in universe, we would have to add the repo first09:38
HawxOn second thoughts... IRC and GAIM won't work over the connection my iMac has, it's going through internet sharing from another iMac, which is connected online through wifi...09:38
Hawx...so I can only do http stuff on it09:39
graziemaxamillion: got a query for ya when you've sorted this...09:39
Grey_LokiI always forget about repo's.09:39
maxamillionHawx: I am going to need you to type this command into the Terminal ok? "gksudo mousepad /etc/apt/sources.list"09:39
maxamilliongrazie: np, if you want to go to #xubuntu-offtopic or just pm me i can talk now :)09:40
Hawxit's loaded sources.list up in a text editor09:41
maxamillionHawx: ok, in that file there will be a few lines with '#' infront of them .... i want you to find the two that say "universe" at the end of them and remove the '#' from infront of them (one will be something like "archive.ubuntu.com" and the other will be "security.ubuntu.com")09:41
HawxAnd what will this do?09:41
graziemaxamillion: can't successfully burn the ppc herd 3 alternate ISO image. Who should I contact?09:42
maxamillionHawx: once you do that we will save the file and then do "sudo aptitude update" which will then load those reposotiries into your apt-cache which will then provide the installation source for xchat :)09:42
maxamilliongrazie: hrmmm.... i would assume that to be Jani, but if it seems like a problem with the image I would also make a bug report about it09:43
HawxOkay, looks like it's downloading packages09:43
maxamillionHawx: its technically downloading repository info09:44
maxamillionHawx: anyhoo ... lemme know when that is done09:44
graziemaxamillion: as it's updated daily it may be ok now, but I'm a bit tired of making coasters :). How can I ask Jani?09:45
HawxBear in mind I'm a complete Linux newb, this is my first time at using it :)09:45
maxamilliongrazie: only way i know to get ahold of him is the xubuntu-devel mailing lists09:45
Hawxokay, it's all done09:46
graziemaxamillion: ok09:46
maxamilliongrazie: i can shoot an email out and see what i get as a reply (also still waiting on a reply about the last thing you asked me)09:46
maxamillionHawx: now do "sudo aptitude install xchat" in the Terminal09:46
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HawxLooks like it's going!09:47
maxamillionHawx: awesome09:47
graziemaxamillion: I've joined xubuntu-devel list now so I can ask for myself, but thanks for the offer ;-)09:48
HawxI had downloaded a bz2 file and followed the instructions on that09:48
HawxBut I typed in 'make' and it came up with some error09:48
grazieHawx: enjoying your newly installed xubuntu?09:49
Commander-Crowewhat a good powerpoint program for linux?09:49
aboutblankCan anyone point me to a quicksilver/katapult/deskbar for xfce? I tried using deskbar but I really want a keyboard shortcut to focus it09:49
Hawxgrazie: sort of09:49
maxamillionHawx: yeah, that's because you don't have the "build-essentials" ... if there is ever a program you want to install go to http://packages.ubuntu.com and search for it .... 95% of the time the program you are looking for can be installed by a simple "sudo aptitude install <package name>"09:49
HawxIRC's not going to connect from this machine :/09:50
maxamillionaboutblank: i'm not familiar with what you are talking about09:50
grazieCommander-Crowe: OO.o Impress09:50
maxamillionHawx: then just alter the parameters of the internet share from the mac its connected to09:50
HawxI think that would require setting up a socks proxy or something09:50
maxamillionHawx: oh ... :/09:51
HawxI'm not sure it can do that...09:51
Hawxnot to worry, thanks for the help anyway09:51
maxamillionHawx: anytime :)09:52
grazieHawx: life is much easier with a router09:52
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maxamillionHawx: but anyways ... for the HFS filesystem, i found a tutorial but it is for people using the liveCD .... the instructions appear to be very similar (you just shouldn't need to do the "udo /sbin/parted" step) http://jclark.org/weblog/2005/05/24/ubuntumount/ <---hope that helps09:54
kumamotohow well does Beryl run on xubuntu?09:59
maxamillionkumamoto: like a champ ... i run it at work (the machine i am on right now)09:59
kumamotoneed any further drivers or just install right out of synaptic?10:00
maxamillionkumamoto: you need to follow the beryl wiki ... you can install out of synaptic but you have to add the right repos and then edit some stuff ... but its all step by step on the wiki (i actually set mine up from home on my work machine via ssh and was plesantly surprised the next day at work) http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu .....enjoy :)10:02
kumamotook I will try that gotta go get my head shaved nice clean thank again max10:03
Hawxthanks max :)10:04
maxamillionkumamoto: no prob10:04
maxamillionHawx: anytime :)10:04
kumamotodoes it matter if the one uses nvidia drivers or just he regular nv driver?10:04
maxamillionkumamoto: you need the newer nvidia driver (the 9xxx, its stable for x86 and beta for amd64 ... i use the beta amd64 and have had zero problems)10:05
kumamotohmm ok I will try it out.10:06
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HawxDoes xubuntu do anything with the HD whilst the machine's idling? Sometimes it'll start clicking away until I move the mouse or press a key10:09
maxamillionstart clicking?10:09
HawxWell, I can hear the HD being accessed10:10
HawxDoes it automatically do defrag or something like that?10:10
maxamillionHawx: well, linux doesn't need a defrag, same way mac os doesn't .... but i don't know why it would be doing that10:11
maxamillionnot saying it doesn't, or even if mine doesn't ... just that i haven't noticed10:11
HawxVery strange10:11
maxamillionlittle bit10:11
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Commander-Crowewhast a good program that'll burn music to a CD?10:21
ubotugnomebaker: application for CD/DVD creation in the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 991 kB, installed size 2964 kB10:21
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grazieCommander-Crowe: I like graveman. Had problems with gnomebaker.10:24
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maxamilliongrazie: i've never heard of that ... i will have too try it out, i just use gnomebaker because i hadn't found anything else that worked for me without loading kde libs10:25
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Commander-Croweyeah I think I'm stuck with loading KDE libs :/10:26
graziemaxamillion: yeah, TheSheep recommended it to me...it's good. k3b is good app of course but those kde libs!!!10:26
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Commander-Croweso when we all upgrade to edgy10:28
maxamilliongrazie: the interface seems nice .... i'll have to find something to burn with it and see how it works, thanks for the recommendation10:28
Commander-Croweit would be "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" ?10:28
ubotugraveman: graphical tool to burn dvd and cd, gtk based. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.12-5-1 (edgy), package size 692 kB, installed size 2432 kB10:29
maxamillionCommander-Crowe: you have to edit your sources.list to point to edgy repos ... then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"10:29
Commander-Crowemaxamillion its there10:29
Commander-CroweI see10:30
graziewhat's the views on Xfburn..,I've never got it to work, just raised a bug, but xubuntu still ships with it...I don't understand?!10:30
Commander-Crowedid I say edgy10:30
Commander-CroweI meant feisty10:30
grazieit's on edgy too10:30
ChickenGirlI can't remember whether I've used xfburn10:30
grazieChickenGirl: do you want to try it for me?10:31
ChickenGirlhmm, xfburn doesn't do dvd yet?10:31
maxamilliongrazie: yeah ... i never got xfburn to work either, but i think that's because i only ever tried it on amd64 and powerpc.... i think it worked on i386 and that was the main development platform so it made it in as default... but i could be wrong10:31
Commander-CroweI got an error in gnomebaker10:31
ChickenGirlI'll get a blank CD-R and try it out for you :)10:31
grazieCommander-Crowe: that figures,,,graveman is very good and light too!10:33
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Commander-Crowecan graveman burn mp3's?10:33
sdac221x_anyone know how to modify the default system beep sound in xubuntu edgy ?  couldn't find any such area10:34
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Commander-Croweif not I'm gonna need an audio converter10:34
grazienever tried it, check out the website10:34
Commander-Croweits taking forever to scan for cdrecorders10:36
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maxamillionCommander-Crowe: yeah, it did that on my machine too10:37
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ChickenGirlgrazie, CD is burning right now10:38
ChickenGirlseems to be working normally10:39
grazieChickenGirl: thanks....that's good...I don't get that far iirc10:39
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stinkythe1_how do you add to the default header file include path? isn't it $include?11:16
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crimsun...the what?11:17
stinkythe1_the default place where the compiler looks for header files, like /usr/include11:17
stinkythe1_isn't that kept in an environment variable?11:17
crimsunyes, CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS for C/C++ source, respectively11:18
stinkythe1_because i'm trying to build mythtv, and it isn't including /usr/include/freetype2 as an include directory11:20
stinkythe1_so it can't find the freetype headers11:20
crimsunit would make much more sense to apt-get build-dep mythtv11:21
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stinkythe1_freetype is already installed though11:27
stinkythe1_the headers exist11:27
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systestwould someone please point me to the netboot files? I can only find the ISO repository.12:05
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maxamillionsystest: there aren't any net install images available for ubuntu12:06
systestI've installed my last 4 boxes that way12:07
systeste.g., ubuntu, pulldown the netboot.tgz at http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/12:07
systestthen either PXE boot it or add it to the grub entry in a running system12:08
maxamillionohhh ok12:08
maxamillionsystest: i was thinking more along the lines of the debian style "here is a netboot iso image ... have fun"12:08
systestI was looking for one that would call the "xubuntu" packages.   Suppose I could use the one above12:08
systestis there a netboot tar ball for xubuntu?12:09
maxamillionsystest: not that i know of ... i would just suggest installing a base install of ubuntu from their net install and then "sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop" (or apt-get if you prefer)12:11
systestmaxamillion: thanks. I will probably end up doing that. "server" install followed by xubuntu-desktop12:12
maxamillionsystest: yeah, that would probably be the easiest way that i could think of especially if you are familiar with the ubuntu net install anyways12:13
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