[12:54] <pppoe_dude> hi should 128 mb ram be sufficient for smooth running of xubuntu on a g3 500ghz?
[12:55] <kalikiana> probably yes
[12:55] <Commander-Crowe> might
[12:56] <kalikiana> of course it depends on applications
[12:56] <pppoe_dude> mm
[12:56] <pppoe_dude> ya
[12:56] <pppoe_dude> but, how much does the desktop use on idle?
[12:56] <pppoe_dude> approx
[12:57] <Commander-Crowe> mine uses 26
[12:57] <Commander-Crowe> :)
[12:58] <Commander-Crowe> 26 Megs
[01:03] <Hawx> I just installed xubuntu on my 500mhz g3 with 256mb, seems good so far
[01:07] <somerville32> 333mhz w/ 256mb here
[01:07] <somerville32> Used to have 128mb
[01:21] <gunny01> what is the apache2 htdocs/www directory?
[01:28] <aboutblank> I can't run Katapult on my xubuntu installation. When I hit alt-space it brings up a context menu. Any ideas?
[01:29] <somerville32> aboutblank, Applications > Settings > Window Manager Settings > Keyboard
[01:30] <aboutblank> when I do that, I get "these settings cannot work with your current window manager"
[01:30] <aboutblank> says that whether i'm running xfce4 or Beryl
[01:30] <aboutblank> xfwm4***
[02:09] <mooniker> Hello! Does anyone know how to do a sever/xubuntu install with a desktop ISO? Do I have to specifically download the server or xubuntu ISO?
[02:23] <flashxfusion> can someone help with a problem
[02:24] <crimsun> mooniker: download the server iso.
[02:25] <mooniker> Thanks, crimsun.
[02:25] <mooniker> I think I'll try the minimalCD.
[02:27] <flashxfusion> i have a problem logging into xubuntu. can anyone help me with it
[02:29] <Otherworldly> is xubuntu recommended for low system specs? (733Mhz, 256MB SDRAM)
[02:30] <mooniker> Yeah, those would work with xubuntu.
[02:31] <mooniker> flash, are you an experienced Unix/Linux user?
[02:32] <flashxfusion> no this is my 1st tiem
[02:33] <mooniker> Oh, and your starting with xubuntu?
[02:33] <flashxfusion> is that bad?
[02:33] <flashxfusion> i read on some forums
[02:34] <flashxfusion> and they said xubuntu is good fo beginners
[02:34] <mooniker> Do you have an old/slow computer?
[02:35] <flashxfusion> athlon classic 500 mhz 128 mb sdram
[02:35] <mooniker> If your computer can handle regular Ubuntu, I'd suggest starting with that. However, I haven't used xubuntu in maybe two years, so maybe it's changed since then.
[02:36] <mooniker> Oh, yeah, you definitely have to go with xubuntu.
[02:36] <mooniker> I'm actually installing it right now on a similar system.
[02:36] <flashxfusion> i login for like 2 seconds and it just kicks me back out to the login screen
[02:36] <flashxfusion> i dont kno what is going on
[02:38] <mooniker> Did you install it with the alt CD?
[02:38] <flashxfusion> ya i used the alternate cd using command line install
[02:39] <mooniker> so you did like apt-get xubuntu or something like that?
[02:39] <flashxfusion> i did like sudo apt update then upgrade then install xubuntu-desktop
[02:40] <mooniker> yeah.
[02:40] <mooniker> so then when you boot up, it gives you a login screen and you login and then after a few second it kicks youback to the login?
[02:40] <flashxfusion> yea
[02:41] <mooniker> does it show you anything?
[02:41] <mooniker> does it click or look like it's trying to get in and then gives up?
[02:41] <flashxfusion> it shows me the desktop
[02:41] <flashxfusion> then i go back to the login screen
[02:42] <mooniker> that sounds kinda familiar actually.
[02:42] <mooniker> have you searched the forum?
[02:42] <flashxfusion> ive been googling but i coudlnt find anything
[02:44] <mooniker> Like I said, I haven't used/installed xubuntu in two years, so maybe I'm about to face what you in a couple hours or so. It does sound familiar.
[02:44] <flashxfusion> ok ill check out the forums and see if i can find anything there
[02:44] <flashxfusion> thanks for the help
[02:45] <mooniker> Sorry I'm not much any.
[02:45] <mooniker> Good luck.
[02:45] <flashxfusion> thanks
[03:54] <j1mc> hey, all.  is there a program that's equivalent to something like MS Paint?
[03:54] <j1mc> :)
[03:55] <Commander-Crowe> !gimp | j1mc
[03:55] <ubotu> j1mc: gimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[03:57] <j1mc> thank you . . . i know about gimp, though.  i just want something really simple.
[03:58] <Commander-Crowe> oh...
[03:58] <Commander-Crowe> !tuxpaint
[03:58] <ubotu> tuxpaint: A paint program for young children. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.9.15b-3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 112 kB, installed size 328 kB
[03:58] <Commander-Crowe> haha
[04:02] <j1mc> heh . . . thanks, Commander-Crowe.  I'll have to check that out.  :)
[04:02] <j1mc> looks like i'm installing that is part of edubuntu.  sweet.  :)
[04:03] <j1mc> installing something . . .   :)
[04:06] <Commander-Crowe> hehe
[04:06] <Commander-Crowe> I'm gonna try that out sooner or later
[04:07] <spasticteapot> Does anyone here knowof an Xubuntu-compatible Wifi manager that works?
[04:07] <Commander-Crowe> airsnort
[04:07] <spasticteapot> It's really bleeping annoying to have to use iwconfig all the time.
[04:07] <bur[n] er> spasticteapot, xterm & iwconfig :)
[04:07] <Commander-Crowe> na j/k j/k
[04:07] <spasticteapot> Hmm...I'll check it out.
[04:07] <spasticteapot> Oh..never mind.
[04:07] <Commander-Crowe> haha
[04:07] <bur[n] er> spasticteapot, check out wifi radar?
[04:07] <Commander-Crowe> you can still check it out
[04:08] <Commander-Crowe> its pretty cool
[04:08] <spasticteapot> I'm trying to set it up so it uses a specific IP address for ONE ESSID.
[04:08] <Commander-Crowe> you might like it
[04:08] <spasticteapot> If it can't use it, it should use DHCP instead.
[04:08] <Commander-Crowe> yeah
[04:08] <spasticteapot> It's bleeping annoying.
[04:08] <Commander-Crowe> I did all that with the normal networking manager that came with Xubuntu
[04:08] <spasticteapot> Won't work well.
[04:08] <bur[n] er> spasticteapot, this isn't your solution... but have you tried just using mac ip reservation on the router?
[04:09] <spasticteapot> Nope.
[04:09] <bur[n] er> can your router do it?
[04:09] <bur[n] er> my netgear can i know
[04:10] <bur[n] er> when at home, my laptop is static so i can port map and such... but when i'm out and about... i'm dhcp
[05:08] <cellofellow> hello
[05:09] <firefish> hi
[05:09] <somerville32> hi
[05:15] <JerryNS> Excuse me, I'm attempting to install Xubuntu, using Smart Boot Manager and the latest Xubuntu release burnt to a CD.  When I attempt to run the CD through SBM, I get an error "0x0C".  Has this happened to any of you before?  How did you solve the problem?
[05:16] <firefish> why use SBM
[05:17] <JerryNS> My computer wouldn't recognize the CD when attempting to use it alone.
[05:19] <firefish> sorry i've never met this problem before :(
[05:19] <JerryNS> Thank you anyway.
[05:22] <Jester45> hello
[05:24] <aboutblank> Hi.
[05:25] <aboutblank> JerryNS: did you change your boot priority in BIOS?
[05:25] <JerryNS> Using SBM?
[05:27] <firefish> no
[05:28] <JerryNS> Oh, sorry, I mis-read.
[05:28] <JerryNS> Yes, I changed it to CD-ROM.
[05:28] <firefish> and still u cant boot from CD-ROM?
[05:28] <JerryNS> Correct, one moment and I'll tell you exactly what it says.
[05:29] <JerryNS> It says "Invalid Boot Diskette (new line) Insert BOOT diskette in A:"
[05:30] <JerryNS> I don't know why it's looking in A.
[05:30] <firefish> maybe u have set first boot to floopy dist
[05:31] <JerryNS> It says "1st Boot Device [ATAPI CDROM] "
[05:31] <firefish> or there's something wrong with your CD,it's not a bootable CD
[05:31] <bigfuzzyjesus> JerryNS, did you burn iso correctly
[05:32] <JerryNS> Yes, as best I could.  I didn't extract, and set it to Test first.
[05:33] <JerryNS> I had to use a different program than suggested, because at first the disk just burnt a fragment, finished, and ruined my CD.  But the second burning program seemed to work correctly.
[05:33] <bigfuzzyjesus> JerryNS, what did you burn it with?
[05:33] <JerryNS> I'll have to search for the name, sorry, one moment please.
[05:33] <JerryNS> ImgBurn is the program I used second.
[05:36] <bigfuzzyjesus> JerryNS, oh
[05:36] <bigfuzzyjesus> here lemme look up a tutorial real quick
[05:36] <bigfuzzyjesus> its what i use and works quite well
[05:37] <JerryNS> Thank you,
[05:38] <bigfuzzyjesus> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/iso
[05:38] <bigfuzzyjesus> JerryNS,
[05:40] <JerryNS> bigfuzzyjesus, Thank you!  I'll try doing what the page says now.
[05:41] <bigfuzzyjesus> JerryNS, np
[05:41] <bigfuzzyjesus> JerryNS, tell me how it works out
[05:43] <JerryNS> Woops, I closed the top to my notebook and it exited me.  I'm not yet accustomed to using this one.
[05:52] <chris_> i need some help installing a driver for my modem
[05:53] <chris_> anyone here
[05:55] <crimsun> wow
[05:55] <crimsun> a whole...3 minutes.
[05:58] <crimsun> that guy just doesn't get it.
[05:59] <bigfuzzyjesus> crimsun, who
[05:59] <crimsun> chris_ [n=chris@tcd110.ras.itlnet.net] 
[06:00] <bigfuzzyjesus> crimsun, oh
[06:00] <crimsun> it's not as if we're all sitting around on a Saturday night waiting for him to appear.
[06:01] <ChickenGirl> *gasp* you mean we're not ??
[06:01] <crimsun> ok, maybe _I_ am, but I can't speak for y'all
[06:03] <ChickenGirl> greetings priit_
[06:08] <stinkythe1> ok, n00b question coming up
[06:08] <stinkythe1> i just installed xubuntu, and rebooted, and now i'm sitting at a terminal
[06:08] <stinkythe1> how do i get xfce to come up?
[06:10] <stinkythe1> anyone?
[06:10] <crimsun> how did you install Xubuntu?
[06:11] <crimsun> which version did you install?
[06:12] <stinkythe1> lemme check
[06:13] <stinkythe1> i got 6.10 edgy eft
[06:13] <stinkythe1> the alternate install cd
[06:14] <crimsun> ok, log in at the terminal
[06:14] <stinkythe1> i did
[06:14] <crimsun> check if gdm is running
[06:14] <stinkythe1> how
[06:14] <crimsun> pidof gdm
[06:15] <stinkythe1> well, that really didn't do anything
[06:17] <firefish> ps aux | grep gdm
[06:18] <crimsun> if it didn't return anything, then it's not running
[06:18] <stinkythe1> i got something
[06:18] <somerville32> does it say "grep gdm" ? :P
[06:18] <stinkythe1> at the end of that line
[06:19] <firefish> only return one line?
[06:19] <stinkythe1> its got like 1000    6627    0.0    0.3    3000    820    tty1    S+    23:42    0:00   grep gdm
[06:19] <stinkythe1> yep
[06:19] <stinkythe1> 820
[06:19] <firefish> then ur gdm is not running
[06:19] <stinkythe1> oh
[06:20] <crimsun> not that I said that before or anything.
[06:20] <firefish> try  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[06:20] <stinkythe1> sweeeeet
[06:20] <stinkythe1> awesome
[06:20] <stinkythe1> thanks man
[06:21] <firefish> my pleasure:)
[06:46] <cyberyak> I'm back.  trying to have my cake and eat it too.
[06:47] <cyberyak> I am trying to run apmd *AND* installing xubuntu-destop
[06:47] <cyberyak> only with a k
[06:49] <cyberyak> I have now made a blank package with equivs that "Provides: acpi, acpid, acpi-support" (I have also broken those out into 3 separate packages)
[06:50] <cyberyak> upon using apt-get install xubuntu-desktop, it still wants to install acpi
[06:50] <PuMpErNiCkLe> It shouldn't be too difficult - boot with apm=on and noacpi, and you should have apmd instead of acpi.
[06:50] <cyberyak> noacpi flag doesn't seem to work, but acpi=off does.
[06:51] <cyberyak> I didn't add the apm=on
[06:51] <cyberyak> i just installed apmd and it started
[06:53] <cyberyak> moment of truth, the reboot.
[06:54] <cyberyak> no dice
[06:55] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Error message?
[06:55] <cyberyak> actually, I guess at this point I can just let it install the acpi packages.
[06:55] <cyberyak> it won't be able to use them
[06:56] <cyberyak> but that is my annoyance. xubuntu-desktop requires acpid and acpi-support as packages.
[06:57] <cyberyak> I think I'm too tired at this point to think clearly about what I was initially trying to accomplish beyond using apm instead of acpi.
[06:58] <cyberyak> thanks PuMpErNiCkLe!
[06:59] <cyberyak> I will have to rethink what my next step is.
[07:00] <cyberyak> the main benefit of xubuntu-desktop is if I do a dist-upgrade with apt, correct?
[07:01] <cyberyak> so when I go from edgy to feisty, it will handle the deps.
[07:01] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Yeah.
[07:01] <PuMpErNiCkLe> 'xubuntu-desktop' as a package exists only because of its dependencies.
[07:01] <cyberyak> so, if I install only the packages I need, I may run into problems at some point upgrading.
[07:02] <cyberyak> right a meta package
[07:03] <cyberyak> actually, the line before last was more of a question.
[07:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> For distribution upgrades, yes.
[07:17] <cyberyak> so I will have to decide if that matters.
[07:20] <cyberyak> could I not just change my apt sources and update?
[07:21] <cyberyak> how high is the probability that I would hose something or be hosed?
[07:26] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Change your sources in what way?
[07:27] <delaney> hey gang
[07:28] <cyberyak> once feisty is stable, switching my apt sources to the feisty structure.
[07:34] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Depends how much you've changed your system, I guess.  The meta-package ensures that e.g; all package transitions (not just version upgrades, but replacements as well) occur properly.
[07:34] <delaney> Hi, I just installed xubuntu from the feisty latest daily and was wondering how i get my icons like the trash back on my desktop?
[07:34] <delaney> it shows launchers and such but the filesystem home and trash are missing
[07:38] <cyberyak> hrm.
[07:38] <cyberyak> I could see this breaking a bunch of stuff later.
[07:38] <Commander-Crowe> hrm
[07:40] <delaney> the icons?
[07:45] <cyberyak> no, the stuff I have been screwing with.
[07:47] <delaney> ah ok
[08:24] <xeno_> hello
[08:26] <Commander-Crowe> hello
[08:45] <hyper_ch> hello
[09:00] <josys36> Yo, who's here?
[09:00] <noname> i am
[09:00] <josys36> Have you tried Beryl in xubuntu?
[09:00] <noname> no but in ubuntu
[09:01] <noname> :p
[09:01] <josys36> love it just about as much in xubuntu as ubuntu.
[09:01] <noname> ok. i haven't used it very much. it doesn't run so very good at my computer
[09:03] <josys36> It handles my intel graphics well.
[09:03] <josys36> I was kinda surprised.
[09:03] <josys36> People really do get a kick out of the effects.
[09:03] <noname> yeah:p
[09:04] <noname> do you know which loging manager there is in xubuntu?
[09:04] <josys36> loging manager?
[09:05] <noname> or what it is called
[09:05] <noname> the thing that handles the login
[09:05] <noname> i want to change the theme of it
[09:05] <josys36> gdm
[09:05] <noname> thanks
[09:05] <josys36> I believe. The same as in Ubuntu.
[09:06] <josys36> ah
[09:06] <josys36> I think the command is gdm-setup
[09:06] <josys36> you need to run that using sudo.
[09:07] <noname> it doesn't wirk
[09:07] <noname> work*
[09:08] <josys36> or gdm-config
[09:08] <josys36> can't remember which command it is, and I am running windows right now
[09:08] <noname> aha okey
[09:08] <noname> thanks anayway
[09:09] <josys36> gdmsetup
[09:10] <josys36> just started up my Ubuntu laptop
[09:11] <noname> :)
[09:12] <josys36> Did that work?
[09:14] <josys36> For the most part I bounce back and forth between XFCE and Gnome.
[09:14] <josys36> Can't decide which I want to use.
[09:15] <noname> yep it did work :)
[09:15] <josys36> cool
[09:16] <noname> where is all the themes located?
[09:18] <josys36> now that I don't know.
[09:18] <noname> found them
[09:20] <josys36> where are they?
[09:20] <noname> /usr/share/gdm/themes/
[09:20] <josys36> ah OK
[09:24] <noname> now I have many new themes :)(
[09:24] <noname> :)
[09:24] <noname> g2g. bye
[12:25] <gordonjcp> hi
[12:25] <gordonjcp> has anyone got any words of wisdom on getting nvidia-glx working in Xubuntu 6.10
[12:25] <gordonjcp> ?
[12:26] <TheSheep> gordonjcp: just install nvidia-glx, make sure the restricted modules are for the kernel you use, and replace "nv" with "nvidia" in xorg.conf
[12:26] <gordonjcp> TheSheep: yes, doesn't work
[12:27] <gordonjcp> 2 tics and I'll get you the incredibly helpful error message
[12:27] <gordonjcp> Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver!
[12:27] <gordonjcp> ^ that's it
[12:27] <TheSheep> gordonjcp: check dmesg
[12:28] <gordonjcp> nothing more about it in Xorg.0.log
[12:28] <gordonjcp> nothing at all about it in dmesg
[12:29] <TheSheep> gordonjcp: make sure the uname -a shows the same kernel version as the linux-restricted-modules you have installed
[12:29] <TheSheep> gordonjcp: also, for some older nvidia cards, you must use nvidia-legacy drivers, as nvidia dropped support for them
[12:30] <gordonjcp> seems so
[12:30] <gordonjcp> It's a geforce 4, it *should* be supported
[12:32] <gordonjcp> is there a list, or some way to get the driver to tell me what's supported?
[12:34] <hyper_ch> !nvidia | gordonjcp
[12:34] <ubotu> gordonjcp: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:36] <gordonjcp> hyper_ch: been there, done that, had it working before *many many times*
[12:36] <gordonjcp> hyper_ch: it doesn't work, and doesn't produce a helpful error message
[12:36] <gordonjcp> oh hang on, it's different this time
[12:37] <gordonjcp> when I do sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[12:37] <gordonjcp> I get "Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[12:37] <gordonjcp> the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[12:38] <hyper_ch> sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules`uname -a`
[12:38] <hyper_ch> ups
[12:38] <hyper_ch> sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -a`
[12:40] <gordonjcp> done that
[12:40] <gordonjcp> doesn't work
[12:41] <gordonjcp> odd that it was working perfectly before though
[01:45] <slow-motion> hallo
[01:54] <Grey_Loki> Anyone here use the 'unrar' command line program?
[01:57] <Grey_Loki> Nope, nevermind. I was being t3h st00pidz.
[02:16] <blizz> is it possible to enable the logitech wireless keyboard encryption in linux?
[02:20] <agrei1> hi
[02:28] <pk_butu> I have soundcard CMI8738 but not detected in Xubuntu 6.10... I am a newbie...
[02:29] <Grey_Loki> pk_butu, is it a PCI-based card?
[02:30] <Grey_Loki> Or is it onboard?
[02:30] <pk_butu> yah
[02:30] <Grey_Loki> ...
[02:30] <Grey_Loki> Is it PCI based, or onboard?
[02:30] <pk_butu> PCI based card.....
[02:30] <Grey_Loki> Just done a quick google, turned up this - http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php?product=651
[02:31] <Grey_Loki> Have you tried installing the ALSA drivers?
[02:31] <pk_butu> not yet...
[02:31] <Grey_Loki> They seem to be the best ones for it
[02:31] <Grey_Loki> ALSA, or OSS.
[02:31] <Grey_Loki> !alsa
[02:31] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:32] <pk_butu> okay let me check
[02:32] <Grey_Loki> I'm not actually that sure about how to go about installing ALSA. I think it's in one of the apt repositories, but someone else would have to help you with that
[02:33] <Grey_Loki> Hope you get it fixed - shouldn't be too difficult to install ALSA
[02:34] <pk_butu> okay...but can you tell me how to ensure whther ALSA is already selected or  not..
[02:34] <pk_butu> is in mixer setting??
[02:35] <pk_butu> I think alsa is installed in my PC
[02:36] <pk_butu> in synaptic package manager.... alsa-base...and alsa-utils backage is installed...
[02:38] <pk_butu> should I install some other package
[03:06] <pk_butu> anybody has any idea how to debugg my sound card problem?
[03:25] <noname> the clock on the computer is in am/pm. how do I change it to a 24 hours watch?
[03:26] <TheSheep> noname: right click on it and select 'preferences'
[03:27] <TheSheep> noname: sorry, 'properties'
[03:28] <noname> and then?:S
[03:29] <TheSheep> then check the 'use 24-hour clock' checkbox
[03:29] <noname> I don't have that option:S
[03:29] <noname> I use the orage clock
[03:30] <TheSheep> noname: why didn't you say that?
[03:30] <TheSheep> noname: put %H:%M into the box
[03:31] <noname> oh okey. thanks:)
[03:32] <blizz> is there a way to activate that encryption feature for wireless logitech keyboards?
[03:33] <grazie> pk_butu: Have you tried following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting. I wouldn't recommend going ALSA driver Compilation just yet though
[03:34] <grazie> TheSheep: who would know about ISO integrity on herd 3 images?
[03:35] <pk_butu> yah I am trying these...but not seemed to be working..
[03:37] <TheSheep> grazie: no idea
[03:38] <grazie> TheSheep: do you know who might have an idea ;)?
[03:38] <blizz> i bet this "encryption" is defeatable with a single TI calculator ;-)
[03:38] <grazie> pk_butu: have you ever had sound working?
[03:39] <pk_butu> yup.... in other distro..it is working fine..
[03:39] <pk_butu> actually I guess my xubuntu box..is trying to get the default..from onboard...not from PCI
[03:39] <pk_butu> but then I disable from the BIOS ..still it is showng problem..
[03:41] <grazie> pk_butu: what does 'lspci | grep audio' give you?
[03:42] <pk_butu> nothing :-(
[03:42] <pk_butu> in mixer..... I got device MPU-401 U
[03:42] <pk_butu> UART
[03:42] <pk_butu> but no useful control under it..
[03:43] <grazie> pk_butu: what distro works?
[03:44] <pk_butu> knoppix...mandriva..
[03:44] <pk_butu> using ALSA driver I think..
[03:45] <pk_butu> do you have any basic configuration...that I may miss...?
[03:45] <grazie> pk_butu: have tried using the xubuntu live cd?
[03:46] <pk_butu> actually I have installed xubuntu....on my harddisk..
[03:46] <pk_butu> in liveCD also has some problem
[03:46] <grazie> pk_butu: no sound?
[03:46] <pk_butu> yup
[03:48] <grazie> pk_butu: the link I gave you goes through basic settings. dunno what else to suggest. sorry.
[03:48] <pk_butu> its okay..thanks...I am still trying the the command given in that link...
[03:49] <pk_butu> as it seems.. it is not detecting in $lspci -v command...
[03:51] <pk_butu> I have a CD which contain driver for my sound card...can any body help how to configure my sound driver..
[03:53] <grazie> pk_butu: your CD probably contains a Windows driver
[03:53] <pk_butu> it contains linux driver also
[03:54] <grazie> pk_butu: are you saying 'lspci -v' gives you nothing?
[03:54] <pk_butu> not any info abt sound card
[03:55] <grazie> pk_butu: can you pastebin the output?
[03:56] <pk_butu> you mea n http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ in this link na?
[03:57] <grazie> yes
[03:58] <pk_butu> sure.. but 5 min..because my linux box in my PC and I am using net thru laptop.
[04:00] <pk_butu> yes I have done
[04:02] <pk_butu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4119/
[04:03] <pk_butu> !uart
[04:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uart - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:06] <grazie> pk_butu: back. your card isn't detected, but CMI8738 is quite common. Have tried searching the ubuntu forums?
[04:07] <pk_butu> got few discussion...
[04:08] <pk_butu> but not got solution to my problem..
[04:09] <grazie> if sounds works on other distros then there must be a solution
[04:09] <pk_butu> yah...do you want to have a look on the readme file of the driver I have..
[04:09] <pk_butu> some path I could not able to find...so unable to install..
[04:12] <grazie> if there are no answers in the forums, send you problem to http://launchpad.net/support
[04:13] <noname> what is your favorite game in linux?
[04:14] <pk_butu> grazie: ok thanks....
[04:31] <biberao> hi
[04:31] <biberao> how to change keyboard layout?
[04:32] <biberao> pls
[04:41] <grazie> biberao: what's your keyboard layout problem?
[04:49] <biberao> grazie
[04:49] <biberao> it tells me
[04:49] <biberao> cannot open
[04:49] <biberao> display "default display"
[04:56] <grazie> biberao: I'm sorry I don't understand what you telling me. What tells you?
[04:57] <biberao> its says that
[04:58] <biberao> i wanted to change my keyboard's layout
[04:58] <biberao> to portuguese
[04:58] <biberao> and i wanted to able to fix my lan card
[04:58] <biberao> which it detects as 8139 and it doesnt work
[04:58] <biberao> when i probe the module
[04:59] <grazie> biberao:  do you have portuguese language installed?
[04:59] <biberao> yes
[04:59] <grazie> biberao: Is your time zone set correctly?
[04:59] <biberao> utc
[04:59] <biberao> i tried to go back during the install
[04:59] <biberao> but it didnt let me
[05:00] <biberao> it said i didnt have a working network interface
[05:00] <flevour> hello there
[05:00] <grazie> biberao: are you still installing?
[05:02] <flevour> help please ;-) how can purge the xfce configuration files without reinstalling?
[05:02] <biberao> grazie nope
[05:03] <grazie> biberao: i think some of your .desktop files maybe be incorrect
[05:04] <biberao> i dont know
[05:04] <biberao> :\
[05:04] <biberao> im newbie
[05:04] <grazie> biberao: what are you trying to do when it tells you "cannot open"
[05:05] <biberao> setxkboard -layout pt
[05:05] <biberao> or whatever the command
[05:05] <biberao> :X
[05:06] <grazie> biberao: 'Applications > Settings > Keyboard Settings' ?
[05:06] <biberao> it doesnt have
[05:06] <biberao> any option
[05:06] <biberao> for that
[05:06] <biberao> :\
[05:06] <grazie> ?
[05:07] <biberao> the layout cant be changed there
[05:07] <biberao> :\
[05:08] <grazie> biberao: can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[05:12] <biberao> grazie
[05:13] <biberao> cant access the net
[05:14] <grazie> biberao: how are you on irc then?
[05:14] <biberao> grazie other pc
[05:14] <biberao> ?
[05:15] <grazie> biberao: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf look for "kdb"
[05:22] <grazie> biberao: sorry. got to go.
[05:23] <biberao> i cant write |
[05:23] <biberao> i cant write |
[05:24] <grazie> biberao: what editor are you using?
[05:26] <grazie> biberao: prefix your command with 'sudo '
[05:27] <biberao> vim
[05:27] <biberao> sudo vim
[05:28] <biberao> wanna help me with my ethernet card?
[05:28] <biberao> i give up
[05:28] <biberao> changing to another one
[07:47] <yevgeny> how install AIGLX with ATI ?
[07:48] <TheSheep> yevgeny: try asking on #ubuntu-glx (or was it -xgl?)
[07:49] <yevgeny> thanks
[07:51] <grazie> TheSheep: shouldn't that be #ubuntu-effects?
[07:51] <apokryphos> yeah, but -xgl forwards you there anyway
[07:52] <grazie> k
[07:52] <BrendanM> Can anyone suggest a good search utility for Xubuntu? I looked at Beagle, but it has a ton of GNOME dependencies.
[07:53] <noname> can anyone explain to me what amateur radio is?
[07:53] <grazie> noname: you serious?
[07:54] <noname> grazie: yeah... what? the only thing I have heard is something about private radiostations or something. I found a lot of stuff in synaptic under amateur radio. And I just want to know what it is
[07:55] <grazie> noname: google amateur radio
[07:56] <BrendanM> it's just like radio broadcast by ordinary individuals with private FCC licenses (which are fairly easy to get for low-power stations)
[07:57] <BrendanM> so...search utilities anyone? (with a GUI...obviously I already have find and grep)
[07:59] <apokryphos> I still think it's worth using beagle, though last time I used ubuntu's implementation of it I had problems. Who knows, might be good now.
[08:00] <grazie> BrendanM: someone on the channel has written a tool called catfish (I think). never used it myself though
[08:02] <BrendanM> thanks
[08:06] <grazie> BrendanM: found the link http://software.twotoasts.de/?page=catfish
[08:06] <BrendanM> ok, cool. I was just looking for it in a repo and not finding it
[08:06] <grazie> BrendanM: doubt it'll be in the repos
[08:07] <BrendanM> it's not. Does it integrate with thunar?
[08:07] <grazie> dunno...never used it
[08:09] <aboutblank> I have 2 most likely related problems: xfdesktop will sometimes crash on login, and I seem to be launching things in twos on login. 2 gdm, 2 gaim, etc, and I have to click "restart" twice to get it to do anything. Where does the OS look for a list of startup items?
[08:10] <aboutblank> should gdm even be starting if I'm using xfce?
[08:11] <BrendanM> what's that make alternative that creates a package for apt? is it like autoconfig or something?
[08:11] <grazie> aboutblank: yes, gdm is used as xubuntu desktop manager
[08:22] <keb> just installed Beryl.  anyone know how to get the panel back?
[08:23] <keb> i can see the panel window edge off my screen but i can't get it to appear
[08:29] <kalikiana> keb: can you right-click and choose 'configure panel'? then you could move it.
[08:32] <keb> well until i switched back to xfce4 window manager i couldnt right click it
[08:33] <keb> the autohide feature does not seem to work in beryl
[08:34] <keb> maybe the borders are too thin
[08:40] <tyler_> anyone know how I can add a start up program to the session manager?
[08:45] <keb> tyler_ : right-click desktop, select Settings, select Autostarted applications
[08:46] <tyler_> keb I want to add a new session to the gdm session manager I just installed beryl
[08:47] <keb> hmm i did too
[08:48] <tyler_> lol
[08:49] <tyler_> I followed a guide designed for ubuntu and made changes where necissary but I am at the end of the guide and at a part where you need to add a new session
[08:49] <tyler_> maybe it added it automagically on a reboot
[08:50] <keb> oh i see.  yeah it should be there when you reboot
[08:50] <keb> did you use that beryl-install-script
[08:51] <tyler_> keb no I followed http://lhansen.blogspot.com/2006/10/3d-desktop-beryl-and-xgl-on-ubuntu-edgy.html
[08:52] <tyler_> well might as well reboot and see what happens hopefully my computer dosnt puke all over itself
[09:33] <Hawx> hey guys
[09:34] <Hawx> i installed xubuntu on my g3 imac yesterday, how do i browse my HFS partition now?
[09:36] <maxamillion> Hawx: in the terminal type "cat /etc/fstab" and pastebin that, lemme see what it has detected
[09:36] <Hawx> pastebin?
[09:37] <maxamillion> !pastebin > Hawx
[09:37] <maxamillion> errr ....
[09:37] <maxamillion> !pastebin | Hawx
[09:37] <ubotu> Hawx: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:37] <maxamillion> :)
[09:37] <Hawx> thanks, i'm here on irc with another machine though
[09:37] <Hawx> ....I couldn't figure out how to install XChat in linux :
[09:37] <Hawx> :/
[09:38] <Hawx> ..perhaps you could help me out with that first!
[09:38] <maxamillion> Hawx: ah, thats something we can work on also (gaim will do irc in the mean time)
[09:38] <maxamillion> Hawx: sure ...
[09:38] <maxamillion> !xchat
[09:38] <Grey_Loki> Surely it's just a sudo apt-get install xchat?
[09:38] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.6-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 275 kB, installed size 760 kB
[09:38] <maxamillion> Grey_Loki: its in universe, we would have to add the repo first
[09:38] <Hawx> On second thoughts... IRC and GAIM won't work over the connection my iMac has, it's going through internet sharing from another iMac, which is connected online through wifi...
[09:39] <Hawx> ...so I can only do http stuff on it
[09:39] <Grey_Loki> Aha
[09:39] <grazie> maxamillion: got a query for ya when you've sorted this...
[09:39] <Grey_Loki> I always forget about repo's.
[09:39] <maxamillion> Hawx: I am going to need you to type this command into the Terminal ok? "gksudo mousepad /etc/apt/sources.list"
[09:40] <maxamillion> grazie: np, if you want to go to #xubuntu-offtopic or just pm me i can talk now :)
[09:40] <Hawx> done
[09:41] <Hawx> it's loaded sources.list up in a text editor
[09:41] <maxamillion> Hawx: ok, in that file there will be a few lines with '#' infront of them .... i want you to find the two that say "universe" at the end of them and remove the '#' from infront of them (one will be something like "archive.ubuntu.com" and the other will be "security.ubuntu.com")
[09:41] <Hawx> And what will this do?
[09:42] <grazie> maxamillion: can't successfully burn the ppc herd 3 alternate ISO image. Who should I contact?
[09:42] <maxamillion> Hawx: once you do that we will save the file and then do "sudo aptitude update" which will then load those reposotiries into your apt-cache which will then provide the installation source for xchat :)
[09:43] <maxamillion> grazie: hrmmm.... i would assume that to be Jani, but if it seems like a problem with the image I would also make a bug report about it
[09:43] <Hawx> Okay, looks like it's downloading packages
[09:44] <maxamillion> Hawx: its technically downloading repository info
[09:44] <maxamillion> Hawx: anyhoo ... lemme know when that is done
[09:45] <grazie> maxamillion: as it's updated daily it may be ok now, but I'm a bit tired of making coasters :). How can I ask Jani?
[09:45] <Hawx> Bear in mind I'm a complete Linux newb, this is my first time at using it :)
[09:45] <maxamillion> grazie: only way i know to get ahold of him is the xubuntu-devel mailing lists
[09:46] <Hawx> okay, it's all done
[09:46] <grazie> maxamillion: ok
[09:46] <maxamillion> grazie: i can shoot an email out and see what i get as a reply (also still waiting on a reply about the last thing you asked me)
[09:46] <maxamillion> Hawx: now do "sudo aptitude install xchat" in the Terminal
[09:47] <Hawx> Looks like it's going!
[09:47] <maxamillion> Hawx: awesome
[09:48] <grazie> maxamillion: I've joined xubuntu-devel list now so I can ask for myself, but thanks for the offer ;-)
[09:48] <Hawx> I had downloaded a bz2 file and followed the instructions on that
[09:48] <Hawx> But I typed in 'make' and it came up with some error
[09:49] <grazie> Hawx: enjoying your newly installed xubuntu?
[09:49] <Commander-Crowe> what a good powerpoint program for linux?
[09:49] <aboutblank> Can anyone point me to a quicksilver/katapult/deskbar for xfce? I tried using deskbar but I really want a keyboard shortcut to focus it
[09:49] <Hawx> grazie: sort of
[09:49] <maxamillion> Hawx: yeah, that's because you don't have the "build-essentials" ... if there is ever a program you want to install go to http://packages.ubuntu.com and search for it .... 95% of the time the program you are looking for can be installed by a simple "sudo aptitude install <package name>"
[09:50] <Hawx> IRC's not going to connect from this machine :/
[09:50] <maxamillion> aboutblank: i'm not familiar with what you are talking about
[09:50] <grazie> Commander-Crowe: OO.o Impress
[09:50] <maxamillion> Hawx: then just alter the parameters of the internet share from the mac its connected to
[09:50] <Hawx> I think that would require setting up a socks proxy or something
[09:51] <maxamillion> Hawx: oh ... :/
[09:51] <Hawx> I'm not sure it can do that...
[09:51] <Hawx> not to worry, thanks for the help anyway
[09:52] <maxamillion> Hawx: anytime :)
[09:52] <Hawx> :)
[09:52] <grazie> Hawx: life is much easier with a router
[09:54] <maxamillion> Hawx: but anyways ... for the HFS filesystem, i found a tutorial but it is for people using the liveCD .... the instructions appear to be very similar (you just shouldn't need to do the "udo /sbin/parted" step) http://jclark.org/weblog/2005/05/24/ubuntumount/ <---hope that helps
[09:59] <kumamoto> how well does Beryl run on xubuntu?
[09:59] <maxamillion> kumamoto: like a champ ... i run it at work (the machine i am on right now)
[10:00] <kumamoto> need any further drivers or just install right out of synaptic?
[10:02] <maxamillion> kumamoto: you need to follow the beryl wiki ... you can install out of synaptic but you have to add the right repos and then edit some stuff ... but its all step by step on the wiki (i actually set mine up from home on my work machine via ssh and was plesantly surprised the next day at work) http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu .....enjoy :)
[10:03] <kumamoto> ok I will try that gotta go get my head shaved nice clean thank again max
[10:04] <Hawx> thanks max :)
[10:04] <maxamillion> kumamoto: no prob
[10:04] <maxamillion> Hawx: anytime :)
[10:04] <kumamoto> does it matter if the one uses nvidia drivers or just he regular nv driver?
[10:05] <maxamillion> kumamoto: you need the newer nvidia driver (the 9xxx, its stable for x86 and beta for amd64 ... i use the beta amd64 and have had zero problems)
[10:06] <kumamoto> hmm ok I will try it out.
[10:09] <Hawx> Does xubuntu do anything with the HD whilst the machine's idling? Sometimes it'll start clicking away until I move the mouse or press a key
[10:09] <maxamillion> start clicking?
[10:10] <Hawx> Well, I can hear the HD being accessed
[10:10] <Hawx> Does it automatically do defrag or something like that?
[10:11] <maxamillion> Hawx: well, linux doesn't need a defrag, same way mac os doesn't .... but i don't know why it would be doing that
[10:11] <maxamillion> not saying it doesn't, or even if mine doesn't ... just that i haven't noticed
[10:11] <Hawx> Very strange
[10:11] <maxamillion> little bit
[10:21] <Commander-Crowe> whast a good program that'll burn music to a CD?
[10:21] <maxamillion> gnome-baker
[10:21] <maxamillion> !gnomebaker
[10:21] <ubotu> gnomebaker: application for CD/DVD creation in the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 991 kB, installed size 2964 kB
[10:22] <maxamillion> :)
[10:22] <slow-motion> n8
[10:24] <grazie> Commander-Crowe: I like graveman. Had problems with gnomebaker.
[10:25] <Commander-Crowe> o_0
[10:25] <maxamillion> grazie: i've never heard of that ... i will have too try it out, i just use gnomebaker because i hadn't found anything else that worked for me without loading kde libs
[10:26] <Commander-Crowe> yeah I think I'm stuck with loading KDE libs :/
[10:26] <Commander-Crowe> haha
[10:26] <grazie> maxamillion: yeah, TheSheep recommended it to me...it's good. k3b is good app of course but those kde libs!!!
[10:28] <Commander-Crowe> so when we all upgrade to edgy
[10:28] <maxamillion> grazie: the interface seems nice .... i'll have to find something to burn with it and see how it works, thanks for the recommendation
[10:28] <Commander-Crowe> it would be "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" ?
[10:29] <Commander-Crowe> !graveman
[10:29] <ubotu> graveman: graphical tool to burn dvd and cd, gtk based. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.12-5-1 (edgy), package size 692 kB, installed size 2432 kB
[10:29] <maxamillion> Commander-Crowe: you have to edit your sources.list to point to edgy repos ... then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[10:29] <Commander-Crowe> maxamillion its there
[10:30] <Commander-Crowe> ooh
[10:30] <Commander-Crowe> I see
[10:30] <grazie> what's the views on Xfburn..,I've never got it to work, just raised a bug, but xubuntu still ships with it...I don't understand?!
[10:30] <Commander-Crowe> oops
[10:30] <Commander-Crowe> did I say edgy
[10:30] <Commander-Crowe> I meant feisty
[10:30] <grazie> it's on edgy too
[10:30] <ChickenGirl> I can't remember whether I've used xfburn
[10:31] <Commander-Crowe> ARGH
[10:31] <grazie> ChickenGirl: do you want to try it for me?
[10:31] <ChickenGirl> hmm, xfburn doesn't do dvd yet?
[10:31] <grazie> no
[10:31] <maxamillion> grazie: yeah ... i never got xfburn to work either, but i think that's because i only ever tried it on amd64 and powerpc.... i think it worked on i386 and that was the main development platform so it made it in as default... but i could be wrong
[10:31] <Commander-Crowe> I got an error in gnomebaker
[10:31] <ChickenGirl> I'll get a blank CD-R and try it out for you :)
[10:32] <maxamillion> brb
[10:33] <grazie> Commander-Crowe: that figures,,,graveman is very good and light too!
[10:33] <Commander-Crowe> can graveman burn mp3's?
[10:34] <sdac221x_> anyone know how to modify the default system beep sound in xubuntu edgy ?  couldn't find any such area
[10:34] <Commander-Crowe> if not I'm gonna need an audio converter
[10:34] <grazie> never tried it, check out the website
[10:36] <Commander-Crowe> its taking forever to scan for cdrecorders
[10:37] <maxamillion> Commander-Crowe: yeah, it did that on my machine too
[10:38] <ChickenGirl> grazie, CD is burning right now
[10:39] <ChickenGirl> seems to be working normally
[10:39] <grazie> ChickenGirl: thanks....that's good...I don't get that far iirc
[11:16] <stinkythe1_> how do you add to the default header file include path? isn't it $include?
[11:17] <crimsun> ...the what?
[11:17] <stinkythe1_> the default place where the compiler looks for header files, like /usr/include
[11:17] <stinkythe1_> isn't that kept in an environment variable?
[11:18] <crimsun> yes, CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS for C/C++ source, respectively
[11:20] <stinkythe1_> because i'm trying to build mythtv, and it isn't including /usr/include/freetype2 as an include directory
[11:20] <stinkythe1_> so it can't find the freetype headers
[11:21] <crimsun> it would make much more sense to apt-get build-dep mythtv
[11:27] <stinkythe1_> freetype is already installed though
[11:27] <stinkythe1_> the headers exist
[11:45] <PuMpErNiCkLe> -I/usr/include/freetype2
[12:05] <systest> would someone please point me to the netboot files? I can only find the ISO repository.
[12:06] <maxamillion> systest: there aren't any net install images available for ubuntu
[12:07] <systest> I've installed my last 4 boxes that way
[12:07] <maxamillion> ?
[12:07] <systest> e.g., ubuntu, pulldown the netboot.tgz at http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/
[12:08] <systest> then either PXE boot it or add it to the grub entry in a running system
[12:08] <maxamillion> ohhh ok
[12:08] <maxamillion> systest: i was thinking more along the lines of the debian style "here is a netboot iso image ... have fun"
[12:08] <systest> I was looking for one that would call the "xubuntu" packages.   Suppose I could use the one above
[12:09] <systest> understood
[12:09] <systest> is there a netboot tar ball for xubuntu?
[12:11] <maxamillion> systest: not that i know of ... i would just suggest installing a base install of ubuntu from their net install and then "sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop" (or apt-get if you prefer)
[12:12] <systest> maxamillion: thanks. I will probably end up doing that. "server" install followed by xubuntu-desktop
[12:13] <maxamillion> systest: yeah, that would probably be the easiest way that i could think of especially if you are familiar with the ubuntu net install anyways