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devilsadvocateGunrun, dvd hasa part of the repos as well12:16
underdog5004gunrun, the DVD is not crammed (compressed)12:16
underdog5004I think12:16
Gunruncould I have that again in none linux speak? no offence12:16
Gunrunah ok12:16
juano_plugs: yes, if its from ubuntu to windows its a windows problem, check that the folder is properly shared12:16
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underdog5004gunrun, I've got the isos for Mac...maybe you can direct d/l them from my server...12:17
underdog5004if you'd like12:18
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Gunrunnah, I will grab them from the kent mirror12:18
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GunrunI get really fast downloads from there12:18
jarnIs it possible to increase the volume coming out of my computer when the main volume is at 100%? It's much too quiet but it's already at 100%.12:18
underdog5004Gunrun, alrighty12:18
surgyHI!12:18
underdog5004Gunrun, remember, before you burn the iso, do an md5 check12:18
underdog5004!md512:18
ubotuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows12:18
setuid_w00tjarn: You might have "master" and "PCM" sliders than you can change12:19
surgyok i found my old age of empires gold cd just now :) and stuck it in my cd rom it doesnt auto mount properly and when it does it wont show anyfiles.12:19
Gunrunubotu, the check on the disk, it passes that12:19
juano_jarn: right click icon tray, show mixer window12:19
ubotuthe: Full-screen character mode text editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1-4 (edgy), package size 277 kB, installed size 796 kB12:19
underdog5004jarn, check you headphone bar as well...that'll boost it...12:19
juano_jarn: try moving the levels there12:19
jarnjuano_: Ah, thanks.12:19
jarnsetuid_w00t: Thanks.12:20
juano_jarn: no prob :-)12:20
underdog5004jarn,  well, sometimes it works...12:20
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jarnunderdog5004: What headphone bar did you mean?12:20
underdog5004in Kmix12:21
jarnunderdog5004: I don't see any headphone bar.12:21
johannPCM-bar?12:21
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jarnjohann: I have that and I turned it up. It's loud enough now, I was just curious what the headphone bar was.12:22
juano_plugs: did it work now ?12:22
underdog5004There is master, Master MONO and HEadphone, right next to each other12:22
jarnunderdog5004: Not for me. O.o12:22
underdog5004weird...12:22
johannjarn:  bar to make your headphones louder ;)12:23
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slyfoxWhat do I use for FTP in Kubuntu ?12:23
jarnunderdog5004: I have PCM, Front, FrontMic, etc.12:23
slyfoxFileZilla or what ?12:23
underdog5004ftp or fish <== for a gui12:23
underdog5004I prefer fish from within Konq12:23
juano_slyfox: kftpgrabber12:23
underdog5004syntax: fish://ipaddress12:23
juano_slyfox: never tried it though12:23
slyfoxunderdog5004: is fish already preinstalled with konqueror ?12:24
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underdog5004I believe so12:24
stdinslyfox: yes, it is12:24
underdog5004only one way to find out12:24
jarnWhat is the HDA Nvidia slider at the bottom of KMix?12:24
underdog5004no idea12:24
alex_High Definition Audio?12:25
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johannjarn: balance12:25
jarnOh, it adjusts between left and right speaker./12:25
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underdog5004johann, so, any ideas in regards to Kaffeine?12:28
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johannunderdog: does kaffeiene word with local files?12:30
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underdog5004johann, yessir12:30
underdog5004to get kaffeine to work with remote files again, I have to restart my computer.12:30
underdog5004which I don't really like doing12:31
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devilsadvocatehow do i add an application to the kde menu (*specifically scigraphica)12:31
johannstange!12:31
underdog5004devilsadvocate, do you have an icon on the desktop?12:31
devilsadvocateunderdog5004, no, but i can make one12:32
underdog5004if so, just drag it in, if not, then you'll have to edit Kmenu, then make a new entry12:32
underdog5004pretty easy12:32
underdog5004johann, yeah, you're telling me!12:32
devilsadvocateisnt there some .desktop file somewhere, where the menu is generated from?12:32
johann;-)12:32
underdog5004devilsadvocate, I have no idea...12:32
devilsadvocatehmmm. ok12:33
devilsadvocatei'll just edit kmenu12:33
devilsadvocatethanks12:33
underdog5004np12:33
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BluesKajdevilsadvocate, kdesu kcontrol12:36
devilsadvocateBluesKaj, i found the kde menu editor12:36
emanfrom italy?12:38
BluesKajdevilsadvocate, where ?12:38
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devilsadvocateBluesKaj, right click on the fde icon and then menu editor12:38
devilsadvocatekde*12:38
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BluesKajI thought you had lost the kmenu, so i was trying to locate it for you :)12:39
devilsadvocate:)12:40
devilsadvocatethanks12:40
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slyfoxIs this a proper command? "istlist scan"12:42
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surgy!mount12:43
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter12:43
surgy!mount iso12:43
ubotumount: Tools for mounting and manipulating filesystems. In component main, is required. Version 2.12r-11ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 179 kB, installed size 400 kB12:43
stdin!iso12:43
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn12:43
surgystdin: thnx12:43
stdin:)12:43
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wimpiesHi all, I have been trying to figure out how to create a bootable CD using k3b. It seems I need a boot.bin which seems to be a floppy image or something.  Since I have no more PC with floppies I wonder How to get a boot.bin12:57
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anosai have installed juK player but it can't play mp3, how do i fix that? anyone?12:59
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elyon225Anyone here use REALbasic?  I'm having problems that their forums don't mention.01:02
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chris__1hi01:04
chris__1i have some problems with apt get and hope somebody can help me...01:04
chris__1if i type for example "sudo apt-get install kdebase-dev"01:04
chris__1i get "Die folgenden Pakete haben nichterfllte Abhngigkeiten:01:05
chris__1  kdebase-dev: Hngt ab: kate (= 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu26) aber 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27 soll installiert werden"01:05
chris__1and many more like this01:06
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BluesKaj!de | chris__101:11
ubotuchris__1: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de01:11
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anosajuK can't play mp3, how to fix that up?01:13
LjL!mp301:14
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:14
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kirkesomebody knows to manage Xfce?01:15
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wceoscarwhat irc client can i use instead of the ubuntu xchat?01:16
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kirkewceoscar: konversation01:16
wceoscarok01:16
djwilcoxhi - is it possible to connect to itunes daap stream on kubuntu01:17
shadowhywindhay all just installed kubuntu 6.10 again.. and my keyboard iis acting werid.. doubleing keys, any ideas?01:17
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kirkeNo , I don't01:18
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frank___why is there a usb-storage process in my process list? isn't it just a module?01:23
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vapashosanybody here?01:25
kirkeme01:26
vapashoshi01:26
kirkebut , I am a newbie :D01:26
kirkeHi.01:26
KoluCCiI'm here01:26
djwilcoxanyone know how to mount an hfs volume01:26
vapashoshow can i see how is on line?01:26
vapashoshow can i see who is online01:26
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vapashosall you here use kubuntu as an operating system?01:27
vapashosi want to ask something about the installation of kdevelop01:27
vapashosis there anyone who can help me?01:27
kirkey just typed01:27
kirkesudo apt-get01:28
kirkeand installed kdevelop01:28
kirkebut doesn't works when I try to compile :'(01:28
vapashosi did it using adept01:28
vapashosai have installed it01:28
vapashosbut i think there are some packages missing01:28
vapashosand i can compile01:28
vapashoseven a simple hello word programm01:29
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kirkedon't know01:29
kirkeI can't compile an "Hello world".01:29
vapashosok kirke thanks01:29
kirkevapashos: somebody tell me to download Monodevelopement01:29
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vapashosi know how to work with kdevelop01:30
vapashosi dont change it01:30
soulrider!adeptfix01:30
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 01:30
ck42Hi...fresh new user of kubuntu.  Question: Not seeing KDE-3.5.6 in Adept.  Not seeing Firefox nor Thunderbird either.  Are these NOT included in the default setup repositories???  6.1001:30
sleepy745What does this instruction mean? "Change in the sources dir and run"?01:30
vapashossomeone who may help me with kdevelop may come to speak to me provate01:31
vapashosprivate01:31
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vapashosanyone that uses kdevelop01:34
vapashos?01:34
soulriderck42: have you enabled the extra repos ?01:34
ck42soulrider:  Nope....just find it hard to believe that these aren't included in the default repos. that are included after a fresh install01:35
soulriderck42: theres a few repos included but that are commented out01:35
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soulriderdont worry, enabling them is easy!01:35
soulriderck42: are you familiar with CLI editors or would you rather use Kate ?01:35
ck42either is fine....01:36
soulriderok01:36
soulriderin a console type: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list01:36
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soulrideryoure gonna ahve to edit that file and enable the repos by deleting the # next to them01:36
soulrideri think you just have to delete the single # not the double ones01:37
soulrideri can send you my sources list file if you want, i ahve some extra repos01:37
ck42just want to make sure that I don't put any repos in there that end up causing issues01:37
soulriderwell01:38
soulridertheya re not causing issues for me so i dont see why they should cause you trouble01:38
ck42needs to be a fairly stable box (wife's system - no patience when things break) LOL01:38
soulriderlol01:38
sleepy745what is svn? how do I install svn?01:38
ck42I'm looking at a couple of sites that list sources.list entries and what they recommend....wondering if it's anything similar to yours01:39
ck42also...seeing that synaptic appears to be a popular alternative.  thoughts?01:39
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soulriderwell01:41
soulrideri allways use aptitude, but yes, you can use synaptic01:41
soulriderlet me upload my sources.list01:41
ck42k01:42
nosferax_Hi! I need help... I seem to have an error in my /etc/sudoers file. I can't use sudo anymore, is there a way to fix this? I know what the error inside the file is but i can't edit it with my user account01:42
vapashosanybody who can help me with the kdevelop missing packets01:42
vapashos?01:42
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vapashosmay come private01:42
soulridernosferax_: sorry, i cant help you01:43
soulridervapashos: i cant help you either, i would suggest reinstalling though01:43
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soulrideryou both can look in http://ubuntuforums.org01:43
juano_nosferax_: can you add your user to sudoers ?01:43
juano_nosferax_: or maybe reconfigure sudo from scratch01:44
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nosferax_that's a bit hard to do without root acces... and no sudo, no root01:44
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soulriderck42: heres my sources file http://www.mytempdir.com/120275401:45
ck42what happens if you try to sudo visudo?01:45
soulridervisudo ?01:46
juano_ck42: is right, visudo01:46
nosferax_when i try to use sudo i get01:46
nosferax_>>> sudoers file: syntax error, line 14 <<<01:46
nosferax_sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 1401:46
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ck42what happens if you try to sudo visudo?01:48
ck42the line 14 error?01:48
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juano_nosferax_: try ck42 suggestion, sudo visudo01:48
ck42soulrider: got it.  thnx01:48
soulriderno prob01:49
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kYoCiao a Tutti gli Utenti di #kubuntu01:49
kYohi01:49
johannnosferax: reboot and start "(recovery mode)" to get root01:50
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soulrider!it | kyo01:50
ubotukyo: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!01:50
kYothx soulrider ^^01:50
soulriderno prob01:50
kYobut i can speak english too :P01:50
soulriderthe channel is very quiet tonight01:50
m0nk3ym4nI need help connecting to a ftp! I keep getting error 53001:50
soulriderallright kyo, just checking :P01:50
soulriderm0nk3ym4n: whats 530 ?01:51
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wordUmm...yesterday i had 11% free space. Over the course of 3 hours i began losing that free space (not downloading anything) i ended up with no space left at all. So i deleted about 2 gigs of crap that had accumulated and got it down to 16 % free...2 hours later i have no space again. Any idea on how i can track down what's goin on?01:51
m0nk3ym4n530 Must perform authentication before identifying USER.01:51
m0nk3ym4nDo you want to retry?01:51
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ubuntuhols01:51
ubuntuhola01:51
m0nk3ym4nHola01:51
word!es01:51
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.01:51
ck42word:  what partition is it accumluating on?01:51
soulriderword: i would suggets installing filelight and checking to see where all that is going to01:52
wordck42: my main partition01:52
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soulriderfilelight is a great tool01:52
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m0nk3ym4nfilelight for ftp?01:52
soulrideri thinkt he version in the repos is outdated but it cna be easily compiled01:52
m0nk3ym4noh01:52
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wordgftp for ftp01:52
soulriderfilelight for word01:52
ck42df -h / --max-depth=101:52
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m0nk3ym4nBut I want to do it natively with the kubuntu add network folder setup01:53
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wordsoulrider: alright i'm installing from the repos first and if i can't track it down i'll compile the newer one01:53
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K`zananyone using xsane to copy with here?01:53
m0nk3ym4nI can't even connect with the Kftp grabber01:53
soulriderword: it will show inside a nice little graphical interface what is taking all your space01:53
wordm0nk3ym4n: kftp is still in point releases use gftp01:54
wordsoulrider: any idea how to arrange it by recent file creations?01:54
m0nk3ym4nHow do I figure out what is locking my apt-get?01:56
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m0nk3ym4nHow do I figure out what is locking my apt-get?01:57
johannwhat do mean byl locking?01:57
m0nk3ym4nI can't run apt-get in konsole01:57
johannwhat happens?01:57
m0nk3ym4nE: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)01:58
m0nk3ym4nE: Unable to lock the download directory01:58
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soulrider!adeptfix01:58
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 01:58
soulriderword, no idea, sorry01:58
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m0nk3ym4nHow do I see everything currently running in Kubuntu?01:59
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InuDuelistOpen the Kmenu.02:00
InuDuelistGo to "System".02:00
InuDuelistAnd then "KSysGuard Performance Monitor"02:00
wordctrl+esc02:00
InuDuelistThat works also.02:01
wordheh02:01
InuDuelist>_>02:01
InuDuelistBack to the superbowl.02:01
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wordnaw the games on02:01
wordnot commercials ;p02:01
K`zanunder gentoo it looks like lpr is installed and works with cups, but under ubuntu it doesn't and that seems to kill the xsane copy function, HATE booting back to gentoo just to copy / print something.02:02
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ubuntuallo02:04
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menahi friends02:04
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moo-stickhello02:04
menais that possible that a firewall on xp can prevent kubuntu for conecting to the internet02:05
menafor>>>Form*02:05
moo-sticksup02:05
Dr_willismena,  a firewall can do most anything :)02:05
sleepy745How do I get SVN command to work..02:05
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Dr_willismena,  with xp - you need to have tha tinternet conection shareing setup I do belive.02:05
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menadr_willis, mean02:05
sleepy745says command not found when I type 'vn co http://svn.kiba-dock.org/kibadock/ kibadock'02:06
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sleepy745svn02:06
Dr_willisinstall the svn package then?02:06
menadr_willis, that well make kubuntu had the conecting to the intenet02:06
johannsleepy: error?02:06
sleepy745ok02:06
menadr_willis, can ipv6 prevent also form onecting02:07
menaconecting*02:07
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Dr_willisive only heard of ipv6 making dns lookups slow..02:07
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wordInuDuelist: who is that? o.O02:07
menaokay02:08
mena!ipv602:08
ubotuTo disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv402:08
InuDuelistWho is who?02:08
tudzaAdept is somehow locked out by some other process, it says, there is no other process so I think something is locked02:08
tudzaHow do I clear this?02:08
wordInuDuelist: that wierd guy singing02:08
cgreerI can't seem to get my sound to work after reading a few guides and what not, and I have not "filed" a bug report; could someone please walk me through how I would file one?02:08
Dr_willis!adeptfix02:09
InuDuelistPrince.02:09
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 02:09
wordInuDuelist: never heard of him lol02:09
tudza!adeptfix02:09
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ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 02:09
Dr_willisafter the Janet jackson Fiasco they have Prince at the halftime show?02:09
Dr_willisgesh... they never learn do they.02:09
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Dr_willisThey should have Weird Al !02:10
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tudzawhat does !adeptfix do and where do I use it?02:10
menadr_willis, i found that in the firewall a mark to to option to prevent ipv6 so maybe that is the reason , right?02:11
Dr_willistudza,  that tells the BOT to quote a factoid..02:11
Dr_willis!bot02:11
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots02:11
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Minataku!adeptfix02:11
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 02:11
MinatakuYou can just do it for him, too02:11
Dr_willismena,  no idea. i dont mess with xp much at all.. and i normally just disable its lame firewall stuff.02:11
menadr_willis, okay02:12
MinatakuOh, you did02:12
MinatakuMy bad XD02:12
MinatakuSorry, Dr_willis X302:12
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intelikeyhmmm i've handeled win xp for about one hour,  ample time to form an openion.     (and i'm against it.)02:14
tudzaThought so.  The sudo fuser ...  line does the trick02:14
intelikeysudo fuser -k /var/lib/dpkg/lock02:15
intelikeyhmmm.02:15
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coreirehey, i havent used linux in about a year and have decided to get back into it. Gonna go with Kubuntu me thinks. Is it based on debian? And as far as i remember from debian there was a command you could type to install apps etc from an online server, is this the same with kubuntu?02:15
MinatakuNo, it's all thought-based now02:16
MinatakuYou think of a package and BAM02:16
MinatakuNothing happens02:16
alex_I come from SuSE02:16
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MinatakuSorry, lame jokes aside, yes and yes02:16
alex_I can only warn you that I don't have any problems in Kubuntu02:16
alex_whereas I had problems in SuSE02:16
intelikeycoreire yes based on debian.  http://ubuntu.com02:16
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alex_although SuSE is wicked now02:17
alex_has the Kickoff meny and everything02:17
m0nk3ym4nI'm still getting the same error in gFTP02:17
alex_but slow as hell02:17
m0nk3ym4nHow do I authenticate before identifying USER?02:17
m0nk3ym4nError 53002:17
dbglthi! Small problem! On my laptop the button to change brightness is FN+Up/Down ... when I press it, the brightness changes... then right after that the X server resets. Any ideas what's going on? :\02:17
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coreirelol, ok thanks minataku02:18
kleesis anyone having problems building ATI drivers with the new 2.6.20 kernel???02:18
m0nk3ym4nfor ftp how do I authenticate before identifying user?02:18
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goodthinghmm, kde needs a css editor like cssedit works, that would attract some people i think :)02:19
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Minatakucoreire: np ^^02:19
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coreirealex_ suse isn't free is it?02:19
alex_anyone had any luck installing Apache2/PHP5/MySQL on Kubuntu Desktop?02:19
Dr_willis!lamp02:20
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)02:20
alex_coreire: openSuse is free02:20
alex_coreire: there is an enterprise version with support02:20
alex_Dr_willis: thank you kindly sir02:20
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intelikeyJucato what's cssedit ?02:20
Dr_willisDarn no Hot Jenie Babe! :)02:20
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Jucatointelikey: dunno: <goodthing> hmm, kde needs a css editor like cssedit works, that would attract some people i think :)02:21
alex_Dr_willis: there is always hope ;)02:21
coreirewill check up on that, the wasnt an opensuse last time i was at it as far as i know. Is it stable? And i'm gonna start with Kubuntu anyway, just downloaded the 4 gig dvd image, cant let it go to waste :p02:21
Dr_willisi tried opensuse the other day... they really really screw up with the default kde/gnome layouts..02:21
ssmasud__which is the best MIXER(volume control) software for ubuntu02:22
intelikeyJucato no mention in packages... i'll go juggle for it i guess.02:22
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LjL!best02:23
ubotuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.02:23
LjLbut seriously... the best *mixer*? they all have the same controls...02:23
alex_SuSE isn't all that bad02:23
ssmasud__LjL..i mean with maximum options....02:23
intelikeyLjL mmm aumix -vs- alsamixer ?02:23
alex_but Kubuntu is just by far more stable and smoother and faster and better and nicer and...02:23
LjLssmasud__: what intelikey said then.02:24
LjLi'll add amixer02:24
ssmasud__LjL ok....02:24
LjLactually, i think i'd *start* with amixer, if you want options.02:24
goodthingJucato: no the dialog of adding stuff and checking code smoothly is how such editor should work imo, it's just perfect. quanta does not do that i am afraid.02:24
intelikeyssmasud__ but kmix is the default    no?02:24
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m0nk3ym4n530 Must perform authentication before identifying USER. why do I get this error when trying to connecting via FTP?02:24
coreirealso, i will be installing a 64-bit cpu within the next few weeks. Will kubuntu work on it? And are the apps compiled for 64 or will i have to compile all from source?02:24
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coreire*most of the apps02:25
ssmasud__intelikey..yes kmix is default02:25
LjLcoreire: they're compiled. however certain apps are simply not available02:25
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kleesis anyone familiar with this error Beryl:  Checking for non power of two texture support   : failed02:25
kleesi have a Radeon 9800 Pro02:25
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kleesi was able to get Beryl+AIGLX working on the LiveCD02:26
LjLtry #ubuntu-effects02:26
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kleesk thx02:26
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coreireLjL: Is it possible to get the source of those apps and compile them myself or am i over-simplifying things?02:26
ssmasud__intelikey....but its a text based mixer02:26
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coreirethe ones that arent available i mean02:27
LjLcoreire, the apps that are not available compiled are such because either 1) the source is not quite portable 2) they come in binary-only form02:27
LjLcoreire: you can run [some]  32-bit apps on 64-bit, but i don't know exactly what's involved with that. it's certainly harder than just running 32-bit02:27
LjLexamples that i know of are Flash and WINE02:27
LjLand proprietary applications in general - they often come in 32-bit only form02:28
coreireok, but if i just do a 32-bit install and just use 32bit apps it'll all be fine and dandy?02:28
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LjLcoreire: yeah02:29
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LjL64-bit theoretically gives you a speed advantage, that's all. i don't know how perceptible that is02:30
menaDr_Willis, So i dont need a firewall if i was using Xp and kubuntu02:31
coreirei'll just try a separate install and if i think its worth it i'll change. Thanks02:31
Dr_willismena,  depends on your paranoia level and how you got the systems set up.02:31
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menaDr_Willis, i setup Xp first then kubuntu if that what you mean02:32
jarnWhen I run any games that are full screen, as soon as they run, X changes my resolution to whatever resolution the game runs at and scanlines appear. This persists even after I have closed the program.02:33
m0nk3ym4n530 Must perform authentication before identifying USER. why do I get this error when trying to connecting via FTP?02:33
Dr_willismena,  i mean how your network is setup.02:33
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menaDr_willis, okay02:33
Dr_willismena,  you just decribed what you did.. but that really gave no real info. :)02:33
dawnanyone here play halflife via wine>?02:33
menaDr_willis, okay02:33
Dr_willisHalflife - the game that made me give up on PC gaming.... :)02:33
dawnlol02:34
Dr_willisOh wait that was Halflife202:34
Dr_willis:)02:34
dawnlol02:34
dawnknow a quick way to set the default vid. settings?02:34
m0nk3ym4n"give up"??02:34
m0nk3ym4nWHy?02:34
Dr_willisspend $50 for a game... enter 100 key serial #.. connect to server to actually UNENCRYPT the game... server is down.....02:34
dawnit was opengl and I changed it to d3d02:34
m0nk3ym4nSteam had a rough start, it's probably the best thing out there now02:35
Dr_willisso on the day of release.. ya couldent play the game..02:35
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dawnSteam is nice02:35
Dr_willisSteam is anotyer reason i gave up on it...02:35
dawnI remote installed all my games02:35
m0nk3ym4nlol no one feels bad for you02:35
dawnI was playing h;1 and h;2 on kubuntu!02:35
m0nk3ym4nSteam is the best way to distribute games02:35
dawn*nod*02:35
Dr_willistheres better ways that are not as intrusive...02:35
dawnintrusive?02:36
m0nk3ym4nOk ya Open Source and Free02:36
dawnhow so02:36
m0nk3ym4nbut02:36
m0nk3ym4nyou don't get the quality of games via that mehtod02:36
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Dr_willisof course ya would think they could cut the cost a little bit.... since they saved $$02:36
Dr_willisquality.. yea.. right...02:36
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Dr_willis:)02:36
m0nk3ym4nlol alright man you keep playin Tuxracer, Frozen Bubble, and Nexuiz02:36
dawnlol02:37
dawnI love hl202:37
m0nk3ym4nLet me know how fast you get bored02:37
dawnhaha02:37
Dr_willisRight now - i dont even think i can legally GIVE my Hl2 game to my brother to play02:37
Dr_willisi made it to the dunebuggy part of HL2 and got bored...02:37
Dr_willisnot even sure how far along that was.02:37
dawn1/302:37
dawnof the way02:37
Dr_willisat least it wasent as annoying as Painkiller was :)02:38
m0nk3ym4nHL2 was a great game02:38
m0nk3ym4nand Episode 1 was ever better02:38
dawnit still is02:38
m0nk3ym4neven02:38
m0nk3ym4nand I'm no dumbass fanboy02:38
dawnI love the graphic detail02:38
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Dr_willis'someone stole the soruce code... delay the game!'   :)02:38
dawnbetter then doom02:38
dawnbetter then quake02:39
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Dr_willisgee.. lets compare games that are 10+ yrs old...02:39
Dr_willis:)02:39
Dr_willisM.U.L.E Rules!02:39
dawnclassic games!02:39
m0nk3ym4nlol02:39
dawnI miss playing quake02:39
Dr_willisI couldent even get quake working the other day...02:39
m0nk3ym4nAnyone remember Lode Runner?02:39
dawnOMG02:39
m0nk3ym4nSierra games?02:39
Dr_willisC64 emulation rules.02:39
Dr_willis"Dungeon Master" on the Amiga - that rocked.02:40
Dr_willisWorms! :) not that lame new 3d stuff/versions  either...02:40
LjLwhich reminds me i still haven't played superfrog since christmas02:41
LjL(wow, the ubuntu spellcheck wordlist has "superfrog"?!)02:41
Dr_willisThe only game i can actually REmber playing through to the end... was "Startopia" worth grabbing if you like Sim-Spation type games. :)02:41
Dr_willisoh wait - i did play Darwinia through to the end.. another grab if ya find it game.. also has a Linux Port. ;)02:41
m0nk3ym4nDarwinia is good02:42
Dr_willisSaw Darwinia for $10 the other day02:42
m0nk3ym4nI played that till the end02:42
devilsadvocate!offtopic :D02:42
dawnI enjoyed playing quake with zeus bots installed02:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about offtopic :d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:42
devilsadvocate!offtopic02:42
Dr_willisi can honestly say at that $$ its a MUST get game.02:42
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!02:42
devilsadvocate:D02:42
dawnwell blame me02:42
Dr_williskuake!02:42
Dr_willis:)02:42
dawnI asked a question about resetting some vid settings02:42
Dr_willisI think we need to take the "SecondLife" code and make a MMORPG WindowManger02:43
Jucatolol02:43
Dr_willisKecondKlife02:43
JucatoseKondlife02:43
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dawnKgetaLife02:43
Dr_willisSecondWife = MMORPG about Bigomy.02:43
Dr_willis:)02:43
jarnWhen I run any games that are full screen, as soon as they run, X changes my resolution to whatever resolution the game runs at and scanlines appear. This persists even after I have closed the program.02:44
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dawnhmmm I was running at 1024x768 fine02:45
dawnthen made stupid change from gl(whatever) to d3d02:45
dawnI broked it02:45
dawn:(02:45
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Dr_willisspeaking of games.. i may go try to play Oblovian some more... i WANT to like the game.. but it just... looks great.. but dosent seem to be that much fun... :)02:49
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alex_anyone knows how to add a shutdown button to the panel?02:54
alex_there is logout/lock buttons, but not shutdown02:54
Jucatoalex_: the logout functions as the shutdown too02:54
osirisalex_: make a icon with kdesu poweroff as the command02:55
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alex_thanks02:55
alex_I'll try that02:55
osirisit will ask for the password that way02:55
alex_password?02:55
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osirisonly root users should be able to shutdown the system02:56
osirisjust like doing sudo poweroff, but this will give you a dialog box that asks for the password02:56
alex_-.-02:56
alex_isn't there an easier way02:57
dawnctril-alt-del02:57
alex_one button02:57
dawnhold down power button02:57
alex_just like the logout button logs off without any dialogs I want to be able to shutdown the system the same way02:57
alex_lo02:57
alex_lol02:57
alex_oh com'n02:57
alex_anyone?02:57
dawnheh02:57
dawnpower switch?02:57
dawninstantaneous shutdown02:58
dawn:)02:58
alex_no02:58
dawn'puter won;t like you later02:58
dawnim surprised that the developers did not place that in02:58
dawnbut hey, its not windows, so like why do you need to ever shutdown02:59
alex_cause it's a laptop...02:59
alex_...02:59
alex_...02:59
alex_?02:59
alex_makes sense?02:59
dawnoh well in that case02:59
dawnuse the power button02:59
alex_nope02:59
alex_doesn't work02:59
alex_not on this model02:59
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dawnin my zd7000 it does02:59
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alex_anyway isn't there anyway to include a one button shutdown?03:00
dawnwell when you click log off it goes to the other screena dn you can shutdown from there03:00
alex_lol, I want to be able to do it in one click03:00
dawnpikcy pikcy03:00
dawnPicky*03:00
alex_aren't we all?03:00
dawnaye..03:01
alex_isn't it why we use linux?03:01
alex_to have more freedom and to be able to do more things than we can in windows/03:01
osirisi use it cause of the chicks03:01
alex_?03:01
dawn...and not billy warez... yes03:01
dawnI use it for the chicks as well03:01
dawn<---elite geek03:01
dawn:P03:01
alex_lol03:01
alex_ok03:01
alex_back to the discussion of putting a one button shutdown option03:01
alex_so03:01
alex_...03:01
alex_anyone?03:02
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alex_any suggestions?03:02
dawnI dont know..03:02
alex_You're Fired!03:02
alex_:D03:02
osirisnor do i. i want a password protected power off03:02
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alex_You're fired as well!03:02
MinatakuI'd rather someone be free to shut my computer down instead of just unplug it03:02
alex_both of you... pack your files03:03
alex_and had back to windows03:03
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wordthe log out button leads you to a shutdown option -use it-03:03
dawnthats what I told him03:03
alex_* speaks loudly into the phone - SECURITY *03:03
osirisfor the record, i am in windows right now, so eh.03:03
wordhiss!03:04
dawnso eh...03:04
alex_I am in Vista and Kubuntu at the same time :$03:04
dawnmore like doh!03:04
osirissome of us have to work for a living03:04
alex_I have to study for a living too :|03:04
dawnand some of us have to play for a living03:04
larson9999in light of the school sub getting 40 years for pr0n, maybe a one button shutoff isn't such a bad idea :)03:05
dawnhah03:05
alex_lol03:05
dawnthats just lame03:05
larson9999god i hope some sanity gets into the picture and she gets off and compensated justly.03:05
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osiriswe should all pack our drives in thermite, and wire up the "hot-switch"03:05
dawnwhat wrong with northeastern ppl these days03:05
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osirisdawn: they're cold, and covered in snow. thats what03:06
dawnlightbright terrorists03:06
dawngimmie a break03:06
MinatakuIndeed03:06
larson9999lol03:06
osirisno one escapes the quad laser03:06
willdoes anyone know how to search for filess/folders from the command prompt (please be specific, I'm new to linux)03:06
yuriyi wish we were covered in snow!03:06
MinatakuIf anyone should be blamed and sued it's the dumbass who thought it was a damn bomb03:06
yuriywill: locate03:07
yuriy!locate03:07
ubotulocate is a command-line utility, but to keep the cache up-to-date you will have to run: sudo updatedb03:07
alex_!TakeOverTheWorld03:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about takeovertheworld - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:07
alex_awwwww03:07
osiriswill: cat and grep can be effective too03:07
Hektik_Ninjahey can you guys help me with splashscreens??03:07
willthanks guys.03:07
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JucatoHektik_Ninja: which splash screen?03:07
willyuriy: will that search all partitions?03:07
alex_Jucato: the pr0n one03:07
Hektik_Ninjaumm the one that boots03:08
alex_Jucato: :D03:08
Hektik_Ninjasoemthing to do with grub03:08
dawnmmm grub03:08
MinatakuWatch out with GRUB splash screens, if it messes up GRUB will turn invisible03:08
alex_install kubuntu-grub-splashimages03:08
JucatoHektik_Ninja: hm. ok.. it's called a bootsplash, and the one Kubuntu uses is USplash03:08
MinatakuIt'll still work properly03:08
alex_I installed it03:08
Jucatono03:08
alex_works nicely03:08
MinatakuYou just won't be able to see it03:08
Jucatohe's talking about the bootsplash03:08
Jucato(I think)03:08
Jucatolol03:08
Hektik_NinjaI'm ubuntu right now, switching to kubuntu03:08
MinatakuSo am I03:08
yuriywill: everything that's mounted03:09
yuriywill: partitions are a little different in linux ;)03:09
Hektik_Ninjayes bootsplash is right03:09
JucatoHektik_Ninja: you're talking about the animated splash screen with the logo and progress bar right?03:09
Hektik_NinjaYes I am03:09
Jucatoyep that's the bootsplash (grub splash is the screen you see on the menu)03:09
willyuriy: neither updatedb nor locate (filename) seems to be working.  command not found.03:09
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Minataku!slocate03:10
Hektik_Ninjahow to get bootsplash up and running, I have it dld03:10
ubotuslocate: Secure replacement of findutil's locate. In component main, is extra. Version 3.1-1 (edgy), package size 29 kB, installed size 152 kB03:10
MinatakuUse that instead03:10
Minatakuslocate > locate03:10
JucatoHektik_Ninja: what do you mean?03:10
shinigamihi .. i'm trying to put this line "xhost +" in my rc.local .. in edgy when it boot up, it always say, "load video failed".. but after i enter the kde, and type xhost +, its ok..how come?03:10
yuriybut why would it say command not found?03:10
Hektik_Ninjadon't I have to put it in a certain folder or something?03:10
Minatakushinigami: X has to be running first03:10
Hektik_NinjaX?03:11
MinatakuX, short for X11R703:11
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JucatoHektik_Ninja: huh? no03:11
MinatakuX11R7 short for X Window System Version 11 Release 703:11
shinigamiMinataku: how do i make "xhost +" load up automatically then?03:11
Hektik_NinjaI have to have that??03:11
shinigamiafter X running03:11
JucatoHektik_Ninja: what are you trying to do in the first place03:12
Minatakushinigami: TBH I don't know03:12
shinigamibecause in dapper, i used to do the same but no error..only edgy would03:12
MinatakuI might be wrong about X needing to be running03:12
shinigamiwhat's tbh?03:12
shinigami!tbh03:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tbh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:12
Hektik_NinjaJucato: I'm trying to get this bootsplash thing to work :/03:12
MinatakuThe big game has fried my brain and I'm not even watching it03:12
Jucatoshinigami: to be honest03:12
goodthingwill: alternatively you can do 'find / -name phrase*'03:12
MinatakuTBH: To Be Honest03:12
shinigamioh03:12
willbash: slocate: command not found03:13
JucatoHektik_Ninja: if you installed Ubuntu it should be using the Ubuntu usplash already03:13
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Minatakuwill: You have to install it03:13
yuriyHektik_Ninja: you want to install a new theme? where are you getting it?03:13
gala/join03:13
MinatakuIt isn't provided stock for some stupid reason03:13
willok03:13
Hektik_Ninjawww.kde-look.org03:13
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Hektik_NinjaJust a new bootsplash thing!!03:14
JucatoHektik_Ninja: oh no.... unfortunately, you can't use the bootsplash themes from kde-look03:14
Hektik_Ninjaorly?03:14
galaguys03:14
galai've been installed kubuntu03:14
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Jucatoyes rly, because the themes in kde-look use either fbsplash or spashy engines, Kubuntu uses USplash03:14
galanow is my first time... and now for chatting I using Konversation IRC03:14
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Jucato!usplash | Hektik_Ninja03:15
ubotuHektik_Ninja: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork03:15
JucatoHektik_Ninja: unless you see a bootsplash that's specifically for usplash03:15
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Hektik_NinjaI have to have usplash boot things then.  Got it03:16
willMinataku: my computer is really messed up.  I'm trying to discover if some of the files that I backed up are hidden somewhere on my computer.  In the backup process I somehow managed to move my entire home folder to media/sda5/will.  HOWEVER, all (and only) the text docs (.doc, .sxw, etc) copied the names without any substance (size = 0 bytes).  I was going to search for one of the files to see if an intact version of the file exists somewhere on the comp03:16
Hektik_Ninjabut then what do I do when I dl it?03:16
yuriygala: welcome :)03:16
willMinataku: if I can avoid installing anything, I'd prefer to.  Doesn't linux have a search function built in?03:17
JucatoHektik_Ninja: see that wiki page to see how to install new usplash themes. but I repeat, you can't use the ones on kde-look unless they specifically mention that they're for usplash03:17
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Minatakuwill: You copied them and didn't check?03:17
Hektik_NinjaOkay I got that03:17
osirissounds like symbolic links maybee03:17
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DaSkreechYo yo yo03:18
Hektik_NinjaThanx03:19
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DaSkreechssmasud_: Hey how goes it?03:19
willMinataku: it's a long story (much of which I don't understand) but I was upgrading to Edgy.  As it was downloading I decided I should backup my recent files.  I went to stop the dl, but it had quit on its own.  As far as I can tell nothing was installed.  However, after that I discovered that suddenly didn't have adminstrative access in the GUI. I restarted and found that I couldn't log into the gui at all.  I've been trying to back up from the command prompt03:20
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DaSkreechwill: That kinda sucks03:20
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willDaSkreech: word.03:20
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willany body know why a file name would copy to another location without copying the rest of the info in the file?03:21
Minatakuwill: Ouch03:21
DaSkreechwill: http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image=microsoftword9su.png03:22
willdarthdual: nice. ha03:22
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DaSkreechwill: I'll assume that' the wrong auto-complete :)03:23
Minatakulol03:24
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MinatakuI miss phones that just made phone calls03:25
willso, anyone know why file names would copy without the substance behind them?  or more importantly, how I might find the substance hidden in some dark corner of my hard drive (which I think is corrupted and in serious need or a repartioning)03:25
MinatakuThat's why I love the ITT Rotary Desk Phone I have03:26
MinatakuGot it at a local consignment shop for a mint03:26
MinatakuPre-modified to have an RJ-11 cord, too :D03:26
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muylaertgalera alguem pode me ajudar a instalar o flash no firefox? ele nao funfa sozinho de jeito nenhum03:27
DaSkreech!br03:27
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.03:27
DaSkreechwill: Will other than accidental making a symlink I'd say your file system is messed up?03:28
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gaytanhola03:29
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willDaSkreech:  yeah, I agree.  do you have any other suggestions on how to search the disk for the file name to make sure real quick that there's not another copy of it somewhere03:31
DaSkreechlocate ?03:31
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willDaSkreech: yeah, that function has apparently been lost.  is that the only one you know?03:32
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DaSkreechThats the easy one03:32
DaSkreechcan you do a find?03:32
DaSkreechor a grep?03:32
willgreap filename?03:32
willgrep03:33
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DaSkreechwill: ls -R / | grep filename03:39
DaSkreechassuming it's not some insanely common string like log03:40
Jucatofind / -name 'filename' ?03:40
DaSkreechJucato: Yeah I asked if he could do find03:40
DaSkreechassuming that will is a he :)03:40
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devilsadvocatewill, try locate <filename>03:41
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DaSkreechdevilsadvocate: he doesn't have locate03:42
devilsadvocateah03:42
devilsadvocateinteresting03:42
DaSkreech:-)03:42
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Minataku!findutil03:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about findutil - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:44
Minataku!findutils03:44
ubotufindutils: utilities for finding files--find, xargs, and locate. In component main, is required. Version 4.2.27-3 (edgy), package size 290 kB, installed size 1316 kB03:44
MinatakuOkay, that is screwed up03:45
Minatakulol03:45
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MinatakuI tried installing Linux on my little brother's computer and files mysteriously vanished there too03:45
MinatakuEventually the computer failed entirely03:45
MinatakuNot that it was 100% in the first place03:45
goodthingin would take a live-cd for this one03:46
DaSkreechwell that might explain a lot :)03:46
goodthing*i03:46
DaSkreechgoodthing: Unless it was teh power or CPU that went03:46
DaSkreech then it really doesn't matter03:46
MinatakuSuffice it to say GCC vanished without a trace03:46
will hey guys.  sorry got caught up on something else.  I'll try all of your suggestions and get back to you in a sec03:49
goodthingo boy, better run from live-cd to backup and never go back03:50
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willok.  I think the reason I didn't have locate is I'm booting in the maintenance shell because my file system is f'd.  I got ls -R / ... to work though and it only showed one listing of my file.  it didn't give details like location or size though, but I can probably assume that it only found one copy (the corrupted copy) right?03:55
DaSkreechwill: ls -lR if you like03:56
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willDaSkreech: I tried that and got a large output.  what am I supposed to be looking for in that?03:58
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gabrielCould someone please help me with my aforementioned Sound Card problem?04:00
DaSkreechwill: you should pipe it through grep for the file yo uare looking for04:00
DaSkreechgabriel try /nick Munchkingguy if you want the name back04:00
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willwill that only search my root folder (which is on a different partition from my home folder, where the file was originally but no longer appears to be)?04:02
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dbgltmy X server crashes whenever I adjust my laptop screen's brightness up or down. Any ideas what could be causing this?04:03
MunchkinguyI ran alsaconf, but after it was finished and I pressed OK, there was no change.04:03
DaSkreechwill: It will saerch whatever path you give it04:05
willthnks.04:05
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DaSkreechIf you only want to search your home folder then try ls -lR ~ | grep <filename>04:05
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K`zanor try "locate <filename>04:05
K`zan"04:05
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K`zan:-)04:06
DaSkreech:)04:06
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willDaSkreech: ok.  it keeps finding one file. is there a way to get it to give me some details about that file (location, size)04:07
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DaSkreechls -l <path/to/file>04:08
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will__hi all, I had to recompile amarok to support my zen creative player, but now I need to redo mp3 support, how do I rerun that script that enables mp3 for amarok?04:10
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willok one last question, I promise.  If I boot to a live cd is there any reason that I would be able to find these files with some substance when I can't do so now from the maintenance command prompt?04:10
eddiehi04:11
DaSkreech!mp3 | will__04:11
ubotuwill__: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:11
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DaSkreechwill: Ded HDD?04:11
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will__ive been there, but they dont give you the name of the script to run, and im caught between two installs, I can still play mp3s on my harddrive, but not on my player04:12
devilsadvocateis there any really good djvu reader on linux/kde ?04:12
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devilsadvocatepossibly with the capability of taking notes and such04:12
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eddieI'm having problems with my broadcom 4309 wireless card, new to linux and to IRC. can ayone help?04:13
willDaSkreech: what do you mean?04:13
DaSkreechwill: A dead hard drive would stop you from seeing that file04:13
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DaSkreechOther than that you should be good04:14
DaSkreechwill__: Wait you need mp3 support on the Zen?04:14
DaSkreechdevilsadvocate: What's a djvu?04:14
will__yea, its totally wierd, if I copy the mp3 of zen onto harddrive, i can play it, but playing it from the zen it gives "no input plugin"04:15
devilsadvocatedjvu is this newish format e-books are coming in nowadays04:15
devilsadvocatelast few years i guess04:15
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devilsadvocatesome kind of image compression technology04:15
DaSkreechAh04:15
DaSkreechI think okular supports them04:15
willDaSkreech: I can see the file.  and I can copy  the file.  but the file is empty (there's a name and extension, but it's 0 bytes in size)  it only did this to document files.  all of my pdf and picture/video/music files copied over fine04:16
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heretic_hi all04:16
DaSkreechwill: do you still have the originals?04:16
devilsadvocatefound it DaSkreech  - djvulibre-plugin . its int the repos04:16
eddiehi04:16
willno04:16
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heretic_in my kdm login and in ati control panel fonts are unreadeble04:17
heretic_what can i do please04:17
glimmungDaSkreech: i changed my nick to avoid confusion, im will___, im the one with zen problems04:17
DaSkreechglimmung: I saw Thanks for notifiying me though04:17
willthe originals were in my home folder.  trying to learn how to copy them to an external fat32 drive, I somehow moved (not copied) the files to /media/sda5/ (which I thought was the external, but turns out its on my internal disk somewhere)  the files are still at /media/sda5/will but there is no content behind the names04:18
glimmungyeah so amarok now sees, and reads from zen, but wont play04:18
DaSkreechglimmung: so you can't play through amarok directly from the Zen?04:18
glimmungcorrect04:18
glimmungbut if i copy from zen onto local, then play it works fine04:18
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DaSkreechglimmung: Not sure that's pretty much out of my expertise.try in #amarok04:18
glimmungso I think its because i recompiled amarok with mtp support, I broke the mp3 support04:18
DaSkreechwill: SOrry man04:19
jarnWhen I run any games that are full screen, as soon as they run, X changes my resolution to whatever resolution the game runs at and scanlines appear. This persists even after I have closed the program.04:19
glimmungso you dont by any chance know the name of the script at firstrun of amarok that enables mp3 support?04:19
willDaSkreech:  thanks for your help. no worries.  I hate to lose the files, but they are not critical04:19
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DaSkreechglimmung: libxine--extracodecs?04:20
devilsadvocateglimmung, i doubt there is a script - to get  mp3 support you need to install gstreamer-plugins04:20
DaSkreechwill: Yeah I know what you mean04:20
glimmungusually holding down ctrl+alt+ +/- will change your screen res04:20
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DaSkreechwill: how much stuff were you backing up?04:20
glimmungbut the irony is i already have them04:20
eddiedoes anyone have experience with broadcom wireless nic's?04:20
devilsadvocateglimmung, i thing you have some other problem04:20
devilsadvocatesimilar to something i have04:20
devilsadvocatei cant stream from a network04:21
devilsadvocatestream mp3 eve04:21
devilsadvocatewhile locally i can play anything04:21
devilsadvocatestream mp3, ogg, nothing works04:21
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devilsadvocatesame error04:21
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DaSkreech!wireless | eddie04:23
ubotueddie: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:23
eddiethank you04:23
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DaSkreechWhooot! Herd 3 :004:26
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cj_hello jucato04:27
Jucatohi cj_04:28
cj_what is the ym for philippines04:28
cj_in this chanel04:28
Jucatothe ym? huh?04:28
Jucato!ph04:29
ubotuJoin #ubuntu-ph for tagalog04:29
Jucatoyou mean the Philippine channel?04:29
cj_yap04:29
cj_yup04:29
DaSkreechJucato: Popular I see :)04:29
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JucatoDaSkreech: nah :P04:29
cj_thanks Jucato04:29
Jucatono problem04:29
cj_do you remmember me04:30
lorderunionhi. i just upgraded my computers motherboard, processor and ram, and now kubuntu won't boot. it gets to the loading progress bar, but just hangs.04:30
Jucatoyep yep04:30
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lorderunion10 minutes ago, it finished loading the bar, hit the nvidia splash, and then no video, which put my monitor to sleep04:30
DaSkreechlorderunion: drop to the grub prompt and remove quiet04:30
lorderunionok04:30
DaSkreech it's the worse option every put into a distro :(04:30
lorderuniongoing to do that now. im on my girlfriends laptop heh04:31
DaSkreechMight give you an idea where it broke04:31
DaSkreechlorderunion: also hope you have a live Cd :004:31
DaSkreech:-)04:31
lorderunionyeah i have a live cd around here somewhere.04:31
lorderunioni dont see a quer mode in grub. (v0.97)04:31
lorderunionquiet*04:32
Jucatolorderunion: in the menu.lst entry for the kernel you are booting into04:32
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DaSkreechJucato: he'd have to do it live04:32
DaSkreechhe can't boot :)04:32
JucatoDaSkreech: I know...04:32
lorderunionboot into the live cd?04:32
Jucatobut actually, he can do it in the GRUB menu04:32
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Jucatolorderunion: you can see your GRUB menu, right?04:33
lorderunioni see a list of kernel versions, with each having a (recovery mode),. and then memttest86+04:33
lorderunionyeah im in that now04:33
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Jucatolorderunion: ok, now, go to the kernel version you want to boot into and hit 'e'04:33
Jucatoe = edit04:33
lorderunionok done04:33
lorderunionroot, kerenel, initrd, savedefault, boot04:34
Jucatothen go the line where you see the kernel options with "ro quiet splash"04:34
lorderunioni dont see that04:34
JucatoDaSkreech: actually he might have to remove "splash"04:34
Jucatolorderunion:  the kernel line04:34
lorderunion(and thanks for the help btw)04:34
lorderunionoh i see it now.04:34
Jucatolorderunion: hit 'e' again to edit04:34
lorderunionremove "ro quiet splash" ?04:34
DaSkreechJucato: I didn't have to. It just came up in teh hard to rad blue writing but ti's there04:34
Jucatono, remove "splash" only04:35
lorderunionok04:35
JucatoDaSkreech: but he's having video problems right?04:35
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lorderunionthen enter?04:35
Jucatolorderunion: yep, then press 'b' to boot04:35
DaSkreechJucato: *shrugs* He said it's not booting04:35
lorderunionok its going04:35
DaSkreechI don't know where it stops04:35
lorderunionhda: drive not ready for command04:35
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JucatoDaSkreech: <lorderunion> 10 minutes ago, it finished loading the bar, hit the nvidia splash, and then no video, which put my monitor to sleep04:36
lorderunionyeah its there right now04:36
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lorderunionsays "hda: drive not ready for command", and a few numbers before that string, btw04:36
DaSkreechIs your / on hda ?04:36
lorderunioni believe hda is one of my cdrom drives04:37
Jucatolorderunion: but it still continues booting?04:37
lorderunionnot sure why its a cdrom, but thats what it is04:37
lorderunionjucato: no04:37
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lorderunionits hanging there right now, flashing cursor04:37
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lorderunioni _really_ dont want to have to reinstall kubuntu, heh. ive got a ton of data that i'd like to not lose04:38
devilsadvocatedjview crashed ny X  :|04:38
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devilsadvocatelorderunion, what seems to be the problm?04:40
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jacksprathi, i was trying to get samba to work with cups and when i print, using smbspool smb://username:password@SERVER/PRINTER 1 username Test 1 test.txt, the domain controller complains that i'm logging in as cupsys, what could be the problem? i'm using kubuntu 3.504:40
shinigamihow to check version of kubuntu i'm using from console?04:40
Jucato!version | shinigami04:40
ubotushinigami: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell04:40
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lorderuniondevilsadvocate: my installation of kubuntu hangs at the loading screen. we removed the splash and it says "hda drive not ready for command". hda is one of my cd rom drives i belive04:41
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devilsadvocatelorderunion, your harddrive is sda?04:41
Jucatolorderunion: where did you install Kubuntu? did you recently switch hard drive positions in the bcable?04:42
Jucatocable*04:42
crazy_busI need to get a new harddrive and I was wondering if all types worked with kubuntu.  Is it a better idea to get a SATA one or the other types or does it not matter?04:42
shinigamiNo LSB modules are available.?04:42
Jucatoshinigami: but does it still output the version?04:42
DaSkreech!print04:42
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows04:42
shinigamiJucato: no..04:42
lorderunioni might have switched the position of them in the ide cable. i just rebooted the computer and i just noticed an ide chanel 2 master is coming up as empty04:42
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underdog5004man, viewing remote files w/ kaffeine is a pain in the tush04:43
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lorderunionbut ive got 1 dvd drive, 1 cdrom and 2 hard drives. both cds are on the same cable, and the hds are on another04:43
madarhello, looking for a little help with a software raid device04:43
Jucatolorderunion: then you need to adjust that in GRUB too04:43
lorderunionok going to grub04:43
DaSkreechcrazy_bus: I've never seen a problem with different kinds04:43
DaSkreech!raid04:43
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO04:43
lorderunionjucato: ok im in grub now04:43
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Jucatolorderunion: where is your linux partition located now?04:44
lorderunionrandom question, would "recovery mode" help me out at all?04:44
underdog5004lorderunion, if you're handy with the CLI04:45
Jucatolorderunion: not if you switched hard drive positions04:45
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lorderunionim pretty handy with cli i suppose.04:45
Jucatoprimary master = hda; primary slave = hdb; secondary master = hdc; secondary slave = hdd04:45
lorderunionim not a complete ingrate with it at least04:45
Jucatoingrate = someone who's not grateful :)04:45
lorderunionlinux is on hdc04:45
lorderunionand lol04:45
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DaSkreechlol @ and lol04:46
lorderunionand thinking about it again, i did not change the position of the drives on the ide cable04:46
Jucato...04:47
lorderunion(sorry)04:47
Jucatobut if Linux is in hdc, why is it looking at hda?04:47
lorderunion(its been a long weekend. took me two days to get here)04:47
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lorderunioni really have no idea04:47
lorderunioni should probably just reinstall linux04:47
madarnot seeing much on device nodes there, my question is that I ran ./MAKEDEV md in /dev and it created md nodes (or maybe they were already there) in .static/dev my question is can I simply point to these nodes in my raidtab and go or do I need to do something more?04:47
Jucatohm... not really04:47
DaSkreechlorderunion: Or you could fix this04:47
DaSkreech :)04:47
Jucatoreinstall not always the solution04:47
lorderunionthat way all of my progs are tuned up to my new arch04:47
Jucatonew arch?04:48
lorderunionyeah. went from a duron to sempron04:48
Jucatolorderunion: well, first you have to first make sure where Linux is installed, drive and partition04:48
lorderuniondo i have access to a command line within grub?04:49
Jucatoonly a grub command prompt04:49
lorderunionlame04:49
lorderunionoh hold up. cripes04:49
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lorderunioni just noticed i removed the splash on an older kernel version04:49
lorderunionlet me try that on the newest. im sorry again04:49
Jucatolorderunion: hm... ok...04:50
lorderunionheh yeah nevermind. same problem04:50
Jucatostill looking for hda?04:50
lorderunionyeah, drive not ready for command04:50
Jucatois something inside your CD Rom?04:51
Jucatocd drive*04:51
lorderunionnope04:51
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Jucatohm...04:51
lorderunionstartup screen for bios again and i also just noticed that my other cd drive isnt showing up in the list.04:51
Jucatodo you know exactly which drive & partition linux is in?04:51
lorderunionmaybe its a bad ide cable, or a bad ide connection? could that be causing this problem with booting into linux?04:52
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Jucatohdc_?04:52
lorderunionand no i do not.04:52
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lorderunionim pretty sure its in hdc,but i dont know exactly04:52
DaSkreechWhat does the grub prompt say?04:54
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lorderunionwhen you type help?04:54
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DaSkreechthe line that you deleted ro splash quiet from04:54
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iiwdpni`ve had problems w/ lose power connectors04:55
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lorderunion./boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-386 root=UUID=25a26989-094e-483b-bb29-ceecf8225e3e ro quiet splash04:56
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DaSkreechBlast I hate UUIDs for troubleshooting04:57
DaSkreechOn the upside we know that it's finding the right partition :004:57
DaSkreechThere is no way it can hide04:57
lorderunionweird...i removed splash again and im not geting the hda error anymore04:57
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lorderunionbut still not loading. its hanging at "boot" now. heh04:58
lorderunionyay! (sarcasm(04:58
DaSkreechlorderunion: Boot up with the Live CD I'll wager you can't see your hard drives04:58
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lorderunionok04:58
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lorderunionremoved the flppy drive from my bios settings because i was tired of seeing errors for it not being there, heh05:01
bill57785anyone know a good hex editor?05:02
DaSkreech!find hex05:02
ubotuFound: libconvert-binhex-perl, dssi-plugin-hexter, ghex, ghextris, hex (and 9 others)05:02
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lorderunionghextris is a game05:03
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lorderunionlol it wont boot from cd05:03
lorderunionwtf05:03
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DaSkreechWhat does it say?05:04
DaSkreechHi Hobbsee05:04
lorderunionBoot from CD:05:04
lorderunionfor almost a minute now05:04
lorderuniontheres got to be a problem with the ide setup05:05
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Hobbseehey DaSkreech05:05
LaserJockhi Hobbsee05:06
lorderunionchecking ide cables now05:06
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DaSkreechlorderunion: Ok well play with that make sure all the devices turn up in the BIOS then dial us back05:07
lorderunionsounds good05:07
lorderunionthanks for the help guys05:07
bill57785I really need to get a hex editor05:07
lorderunionbll05:07
lorderunionbbl*05:07
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aseigobill57785: khexedit =005:07
DaSkreechbill57785: try msg ubotu find hex05:07
Hobbseeheya LaserJock!05:07
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bill57785aseigo: what are you trying to say?05:09
DaSkreechbill57785: He's saying apt-get install khexedit05:10
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bill57785ok....sry, I've only used Linux for a month or two05:12
bill57785and it came with everything I really needed05:12
DaSkreechbill57785: No problem do you use adept?05:12
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bill57785yes05:13
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flaccidpcbsd rules :)05:14
bill57785but where do I get the package for khexedit?05:14
flaccid!find khexedit05:15
ubotuFound: khexedit05:15
flaccid!khexedit05:15
ubotukhexedit: KDE hex editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 362 kB, installed size 1164 kB05:15
flaccidits in universe05:15
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DaSkreechbill57785: Ok press alt+space and type adept then press enter05:16
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eddiehello05:17
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DaSkreechYo05:17
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eddieI need some help on using ndiswrapper05:17
DaSkreechbill57785: in the search bar type hex05:17
DaSkreechYou should get some hits for hex editors05:18
DaSkreech If you don't see khexedit then ping me05:18
bill57785k05:19
eddiei checked out the wifi docs what i did learn was my card (broadcom 4309)isnt supported by the bc43xx driver. I tried typing what it said into the terminal but it didnt seem to work05:20
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bill57785do I need to be in gnome to run adept?05:25
Hobbseeno05:25
Hobbseeyou can be in kde05:26
bill57785hmmm05:26
bill57785well why isn't it loading then?05:26
bill57785it shows it is loading in the taskbar05:26
bill57785and then it just disappears05:26
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Hobbseerun it a second time?05:28
Ruidoso_Silenciogood night everyone... I have some troubles here trying to run xsane... it crashes with some gtk error messages05:28
bill57785tried05:28
bill57785I tried the run command box, alt+space, and even just going into the programs list05:28
bill57785they all do the same thing05:28
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spiderxwazap05:29
Ruidoso_Silenciohello spiderx :-\05:30
DaSkreechbill57785: Want to try the CLI?05:32
bill57785I'll try anything05:33
bill57785^_^ this way I can learn and become more experienced05:33
crimsunmmm amarok 1.4.5.05:33
bill57785I like command line anyways....it's what I usually have to do to do almost any hack for my PSP05:34
dawnyou know having a wireless USB MS mouse work perfectly on kubuntu is a huge win05:35
dawnjust plug and go05:35
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Hobbseebill57785: try sudo adept?05:35
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dawnbig sell for ppl05:36
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Hobbseedawn: yay :)05:38
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bill57785ok, sudo worked05:40
bill57785but adept shows khexedit05:40
bill57785but it says it is broken05:40
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phobiacAre there any powerful graphing calculators for linux? I searched adept for "graphing" and the only graphing calc I find was graphmonkey, which works but I'm looking for one that can output a table as well as the graph.05:42
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DaSkreechbill57785: does it say why its broken?05:43
DaSkreechphobiac: kplot?05:44
phobiacDaSkreech: I'll check that out05:45
manchickenphobiac: There aren't any in linux, but there are several for KDE and GNOME, and a few independent ones as well.05:45
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phobiacOdd, I can't find kplot. I'll try quickplot though.05:46
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bill57785well I uninstalled it05:49
bill57785and clicked install05:49
bill57785and the command line is still going05:49
bill57785fingers crossed05:49
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phobiacOkay quickplot isn't a graphing calculator but it looks interesting. I'll have to check my sources.list again, I thought I enabled everything.05:50
manchickenphobiac: Look in adept for plot or graphing05:51
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DaSkreechbill57785: How goes?05:52
Hobbseephobiac: gnuplot, kmplot are both good05:54
HobbseeDaSkreech: you meant kmplot, btw05:54
DaSkreechThanks05:54
DaSkreechnever used it05:55
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phobiacI'll try those, thank you.05:55
DaSkreechI'll guess bill57785 is ool05:55
DaSkreechNight all05:55
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phobiacNight05:56
phobiacWhoops too late05:56
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phobiacHmm, Kmplot is nice but I'm looking for the table feature I know some TI calculators have. Tiemu looks promising though.05:58
eddiehey guys, I'm having a problem with my broadcom 4309 wireless nic not enabeling. I'm new to linux, I have read the wifi docs on ubuntu.com, I found the bcw43xx driver doesnt support the 4309. I found ndisloader and I think I installed it. Then I try to follow the directions but what they say to type in the terminal doesn't work. I was just wondering if anyone could help.06:00
flaccidpastebin the error06:00
flaccidincluding the command06:00
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eddiei'm sorry, new to irc also. are you talking to me flaccid?06:04
flaccidyes06:04
Jucato!pastebin06:04
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)06:04
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phobiacOoo, tiemu is perfect. Anyone who wants a TI calculator but doesn't want to drop the $100+ for one should check it out.06:05
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phobiacIt seems to not much like being resized though, unless that's beryl messing with it.06:07
crimsundoes anyone use a mysql database for amarok?06:07
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crimsunthere seems to be a problem in feisty's amarok 1.4.506:08
eddieoh, ok. well I closed it all out. but It was telling me to blacklist the bcw43xx drivers and it told me to type sudo get blacklist something and it said bash: command not found06:08
crimsunnamely, amarok 1.4.5 is not communicating properly with mysql-server 5.0.32[-2] 06:09
flaccideddie: can't help without what that command was. can't find something if you don't know what it is.06:11
eddieok i'm sorry. I'm in Edgy, and it shows my wirless card in the network system settings, but it just wont enable.06:13
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phobiaceddie: Pop open a konsole (if you didn't close the one you had open) and see if it saved to your history.06:13
K`zanHow does one print to cups from the command line?06:13
phobiacWell, I'm off. Night all.06:14
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eddiewell I'll just start fresh tomorrow, thanks anyway06:15
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neilhello is anyone there?06:25
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davidello06:27
davidanyone here06:28
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ForgeAuswell from #linux theres a poll its rather bad english but anyway I promised I'd send it to two friends... likely two people from here might at least see it...06:33
ForgeAushttp://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/arklinux.org/arklinux/2006.1/iso/arklinux-2006.1.iso06:33
ForgeAusoops wrong link06:33
ForgeAushttp://limcore.com/poll/2007/linux/take-poll/send.php?lang=en06:34
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bicaque pasa con este canal, esta muerto??06:37
Jucato!es | bica06:37
ubotubica: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.06:37
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unix_infidellol, 300 people and dead, odd assessment.06:39
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CainMadnessNeed help with installing a USB printer. Kubuntu does detect it, but not the specific model. ( It lists several versions of the model I have. About as accurate as Kubuntu can get. At which point... I'm stumped. )07:01
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mguwhere's acroread in Kubuntu feisty? I've already enabled multiverse, universe and restricted, yet the package isn't available?07:08
Jucato!info acroread feisty07:08
ubotuPackage acroread does not exist in feisty07:08
Jucatohm... maybe it hasn't been packaged yet? better ask in #ubuntu+107:08
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shinigamihi, how do i check what hardwares i have in my computer from the console?07:25
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shinigami!hardware07:26
ubotuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport07:26
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shinigami!procs07:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about procs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:27
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Slackwiseshinigami: Well, one way is to use the command "lspci"07:27
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Slackwiseshinigami: But that only lists devices on the PCI bus.07:27
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Gretltry ls -l /dev07:27
shinigamiSlackwise: does the /dev shows all the hardwares in my computer???07:27
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shinigamihow do i know for example /dev/xxx is what hardware?07:28
shinigamieg../dev/video and /dev/video0 and /dev/video1 , how i know what are they?07:29
Gretlyou shold see nvidea or ati bit before the video devices07:31
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dawn__http://www.linuxgenuineadvantage.org/07:34
dawn__heh07:34
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surgyim trying to get my sound to work on my compaq armada 1750 the driver is called, ess1869 and when i "sudo ./ess1869" i get the error "segmentation fault" what am i doing wrong?07:34
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surgyit says that ess1869 is an executable when i right click it07:35
Gretlvery sorry ....dont know that07:36
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alpha^^07:41
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morticihow do i add a feisty repo?07:43
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morticior better yet how do i upgrade to feisty?07:43
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cpk1mortici: why?07:44
morticii want to upgrade samba to 3.0.23d07:44
cpk1is there a feature that you need in that version?07:44
morticiquite possibly07:44
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morticii won't know till i try it07:44
cpk1... they have release notes07:45
ksnipawas wondering if anyone knows how to get the suse style kmenu bar running on kubuntu, like where I could download it from?07:45
unix_infidelksnipa: suse style?07:45
cpk1upgrading to fiesty would most likely cause more problems than it would fix07:45
mortici:/07:46
JucatoI think he means the kickoff  menu07:46
morticican i use a feisty repo so i can install the latest samba?07:46
cpk1wait and see if the package maintainer updates samba or if you *must* have it build it yourself07:46
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cpk1no, that wouldnt work either, you could try finding a .deb of samba though07:46
theshadowOk I don't know what I did, I made a change to the video drivers and some how killed my audio play back... can anyone help me?07:47
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morticihmmmm07:47
ksnipaunix_infidel: yea, http://home.kde.org/~binner/kickoff/sneak_preview.html07:47
morticii found the debs07:47
morticibut it depends on other stuff07:47
cpk1if you cant think of a reason why you would need the newest samba then you probably dont need it07:47
morticiwhich i bet depends on other stuff07:47
shinigami<Gretl> you shold see nvidea or ati bit before the video devices <-- from ls ? i don't see it07:47
Jucatoksnipa: you might want to Google for kickoff .deb packages for Kubuntu07:48
ksnipaJucato, thanks I'll check it out07:48
Jucatoksnipa: there are no official Kubuntu packages for it though. so install with caution07:48
Gretlwell i see it perhaps you dont have nvidea driver installed?07:48
Gretlbt me expert in that i use most time the grafik system to infor me ;)07:49
ksnipaJucato: thanks for the heads up, be honest I'm looking for something vista style, as badd as it maybe, the new start menu is something I actually liked, kickoff seemed similar so thought I'd give it a try07:50
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Jucatoksnipa: you might want to check out kbfx then. it's not exactly like vista or kickoff, but kickoff was somehow based on it07:51
surgywhen i try to install my sound card driver on my armada 1750 i get an error: Segmentation fault07:51
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ksnipaJucato: thanks for filling me in, I'm on the kbfx site right now looking into it07:53
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silentdestructhi i was wondering if anyone knew how to get 1280x800 on my monitor. i have intel 965, with gma x3000, and its a widescreen format :-/ its not on the slide bar.07:58
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theshadowsilentdestruct: it could be a couple of things, 1 you need the correct video card driver, 2 you need the monitor video driver or a compatible one07:59
surgycan someone please help me with my sound problem? im trying to install a sound card driver for an armada 1750 the driver is an executable called ess1869 and when i run it i get : segmentation fault08:00
silentdestructwell i know they dont make a driver for the onboard, so scratch that, and its a samsung 19" monitor 931bf which isnt on the drive list either08:00
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silentdestructso im guessing i may have to live with it being stretched08:00
silentdestructor get a graphics card lol08:01
juano__silentdestruct:  kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:02
juano__silentdestruct: add the resolution you want to that file, make sure your card supports it, this wouyld be in section Display i believe08:02
silentdestructya my card goes up to 2048x204808:03
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silentdestructdo i jsut type 1280x800?08:04
silentdestructand click save08:04
silentdestructalso when i ran that command, i got a few bad device errors, 16808:06
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akrusamaroK 1.4.5?!08:07
akrusis it already released?08:08
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shinigamihi, how do i make samba load up automatically everytime my computer boots up???? where's the startup script?08:08
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shinigami!startup08:08
ubotuTo add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup08:08
akrusGnome? :)08:08
Jucatohm.. not that..08:08
shinigamino i need kubuntu08:08
akrusin System Settings on "Advanced" Tab08:08
Jucatosamba would need to start before X starts right?08:09
shinigamiwhat's the command? which rc files?08:09
akrusju08:09
akrusoops08:09
Jucatosomething in /etc afaik08:09
akrusJucato: it's listed in services08:09
Jucatoah08:09
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akrusI do :)08:09
JucatoI know.. it's a boring life :P08:09
shinigamioh nvmind08:09
akrushehe08:09
shinigamihow about08:09
shinigamia unix system.. u wanna run a /etc/init.d/samba start when the system boot up08:10
shinigamiwhich file do u edit?08:10
cpk1it shouldnt really matter when samba starts, I guess you would want samba to start right before or right after your network interface goes up08:10
akrus /etc/init.d/samba?08:10
akrus /etc/rc.local? :)08:10
akrusoh does someone know why the font is changed from time to time?08:11
akrusI had DejaVu Sans/8 set as default08:11
akrusbut today it changed to 9 somehow08:11
akrusthat's a bit annoying lol08:11
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surgycan someone tell me how to add a module? in particular i want to add the module es-1869?????????????08:14
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unix_infidelsurgy: a kernel module?08:18
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unix_infidelmodprobe is the command you are looking.08:18
shinigamiblah..the answer is create a link in rc0.d to your /etc/init,d/xxx08:19
surgyunix_infidel: i guess i just need the sound card driver for my armada 1750 to work08:19
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unix_infidelsurgy: if that's the module then modprobe is the command.08:20
surgyunix_infidel: it doesnt find that module08:20
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unix_infidelthen its not part of your kernel.08:22
shinigami!rc.d08:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rc.d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:23
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geniiGo Colts :)08:27
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geniiAnyone using netboot or preseeded cd installs? I still can't get one to auto-add some default user08:29
geniiThis is with both Dapper and Edgy08:30
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f00fhello08:37
f00fI've got a laptop that I'm considering ditching gentoo with and moving to kubuntu, can I install kubuntu over gentoo w/o wiping the HD?08:37
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cpk1f00f: you mean you want to keep /home but delete / ?08:38
f00fcpk1: yes, /home is about all I'd need to keep :)08:39
f00fI guess I could just rm all of the other directories except home08:39
cpk1f00f: if /home is already its own partition then you are fine, you can just tell the installer where that partition is08:39
f00fsame partition08:39
f00f:/08:39
f00fI guess I'm hosed then :/08:40
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cpk1your not hosed haha08:40
cpk1you could always make a new partition and then move /home over to that08:40
f00ftrue..08:41
cpk1or just back up your data08:41
cpk1which is always a good idea08:41
f00fbut it is a 60 gig, and the majority of the crap is in my /home08:41
f00fand to boot no internal DVD burner :/08:41
f00fif I remove all of the config directories though, shouldn't it be able to just install over the existing partitions?08:42
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f00fI can't really back up my laptop unless I do it on a bunch of CDs08:56
f00f:/08:56
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LarsJansenhi guys, I'm running kubuntu dapper. can anyone tell me if theres an equivalent system tray thingy to the little twin moniter lights in windows that flash every time there's network activity in or out? kde sys guard is cool but isn't in the tray.09:08
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f00fLarsJansen: there's plenty of kicker apps for network monitoring09:11
f00ftake a look on kde-apps.org09:11
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LarsJansenthanks man. i'll check the kicker. there's soo much network stuff for my puter... its a bit overwhelming:)09:13
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f00fthere was a cool one called... KNetLoad I think09:14
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LarsJansenawesome!09:15
LarsJansenim grateful for the tip:) this is a great channel09:15
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LarsJansenheh kicker = kde panel duh im learning09:20
f00fyeah, kicker is pretty fun09:21
f00fif you want something really cool (but you need a good video card, and prepare for a bit of tweaking to use it), try beryl09:21
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f00fnot for networking though, beryl is a 3D accelerated desktop09:22
f00fuseless, but fun, eye candy meets a few useful features scattered about09:23
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f00fbrb.. gonna restart X to get out of beryl09:25
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Jucatoheh09:26
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f00fback09:27
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geniiJucato I'm a hockey fan normally but catch the superBowl of course :)09:29
Jucato:P09:30
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f00fyaay colts :D!09:31
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intelikeyquiet in here...09:32
f00fhmm.. I could get an external drive enclosure for this 80GB I have09:33
anonymeeeewhen i'm installing software, how do I know what directory it goes in...09:33
f00fcopy home dir onto drive09:33
anonymeeeelike azureus...for example09:34
f00fthen copy home dir back onto laptop after kubuntu is installed09:34
anonymeeeeanyone else have trouble installing the JRE 1.509:34
intelikeyanonymeeee you don't.   what are you looking for?  what did you install ?09:35
shinigamihi.. i'm looking for some files in console.. so i use eg: "ls -lR | grep samba" ..how do i know which directory the files are at?09:35
geniishinigami use the locate command instead09:36
geniieg: locate samba|more09:36
intelikeyshinigami ls is not the tool to search for files with.   find / -iname samba09:36
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geniiJucate good point09:36
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Jucatogenii: that's an 'o' at the end of my name :)09:37
geniiBleh I'm tired :)09:37
Jucatoshinigami: you might have better luck with find, as intelikey noted09:37
shinigamiic09:37
Admiral_Chicagohmm irssi didn't show the wave09:37
shinigamii would use find09:37
Jucatogenii: Tab completion?09:37
Admiral_Chicagoor the highlight that is09:37
geniiJucato: I'll remember to use the Tab completion09:37
geniiI forgot it works in Chatzilla ...in ircii it doesn't09:38
shinigamihow can i find a file which is like S20samba ? find -iname samba doesn't display this file09:38
shinigamifind -iname *samba* also can't09:38
geniithat looks like an init.d file09:38
intelikeyshinigami for cli commands.    man <command_name>      man find09:38
intelikeyshinigami that's not the way i typed it now is it....09:38
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intelikeyshinigami and if you use wild cards you should use quotes.    '*samba*'09:39
shinigamii wanna find in /etc09:39
shinigamifind /etc/ -iname samba09:39
intelikeyyep09:39
shinigamiOHH got it09:39
shinigamiahhh great.. thx09:40
intelikeywithout quotes the shell will try to expand wildcards before sending them to the command.09:40
intelikeysome times that causes issues.09:40
geniishinigami: Why are you trying to find this file? It looks from the beginning of it that it is one of the rc.d or init.d startup files09:41
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shinigamihehee i'm discovering update-rc.d09:41
shinigamiwanna find which level my samba is running at09:42
shinigamiand sequence09:42
shinigamiso its like..S20samba at rc3..4..5... and K19samba at rc0..1..6 etc09:42
shinigamianyway got it09:42
geniiAh OK :) Thought maybe you figured it was some problem file to delete or so on LOL09:43
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shinigamibut then again.. find doesn't show link files linking to where?09:44
eMish_I removed the package X with dpkg -r. How do I remove the remove also packages that were auto-installed when I I installed X with apt-get ?09:44
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intelikeyshinigami well for that usage maybe i was hastey   ls -l /etc/rc.* | less09:45
eMish_ I removed the package X with dpkg -r. How do I remove those packages that were auto-installed when I installed X with apt-get ?09:45
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intelikeyor ls -l /etc/rc.?/ | cut -c50- | less09:46
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shinigamiyeah.. i noticed if you use | grep xxx , u can't see the directory of the files found..nvmind09:49
shinigamidouble search..find first, then ls09:49
intelikeyeMish_ you could feed   apt-cache show X | grep '^Depends:'   into a string command.09:49
concept10anyone here in the ubuntu channel09:49
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jackpot_2001hi all09:53
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harmentalhi everybody...09:58
harmentaldoes anybody uses a usb bluetooth dongle?09:59
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Admiral_Chicagoi know people that do10:00
Jucatohi Admiral_Chicago! glad to see you're back :)10:00
harmentali think i mught me be missing something here....10:00
harmentalboth the pc and my cell phone see each other....but we I try to connect or send files.....it just wont work....10:01
harmentalim a little lost here.....google was of no help either...10:01
Jucatomine worked ootb...10:02
Admiral_Chicagoi've been here, never sleeping, you know10:02
Admiral_Chicagoyes that is odd, have you searched the forums10:03
harmentalyeap.....10:03
harmentalbut i dont find my cell in there....10:03
harmentali have an LG KU311...10:03
Admiral_Chicagohmm, what kinda system are you on?10:04
harmentalanyway....i've tried the tutos for other phones but i dont get them to work for me..10:04
harmentalKubuntu Edgy10:04
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harmentali've never tried usb-BT with Kubuntu Dapper....(brand new cell phone... :o)10:05
Admiral_Chicagohmm, i have no idea how to fix it, maybe someone on teh formus will know10:05
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harmentalok thx anyway...10:12
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shinigamihow do u monitor a file's size as it grows, in real time?10:17
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intelikeywhile true ;do ls -l filename ;done    ?10:18
intelikey^C to terminate.10:18
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Jucatonah...10:20
intelikeynot exactly real time...10:20
intelikeybut neither is what i did.10:20
Jucatohm...10:21
shinigamicool10:21
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shinigamiwatch -d ls -lh10:21
Admiral_Chicagohmm, feisty is nice...10:22
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Jucatowatch --interval=0.1 ls -l <filename>10:23
Jucatoor watch --interval=0.1 ls -lh <filename>10:23
shinigamiyeah watch is cool! thx10:23
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shinigamiactually can't 0.1 ..min. is 1 sec..hehe10:25
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Jucatohuh?10:26
Jucatook. if you say so :)10:26
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intelikeynice...10:28
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Jucatointelikey: real time enough for you? :)10:28
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chavousing the 9746 drivers here10:29
intelikeyJucato the exploited exploit in my irc client Jucato ?   that wasn't you...10:29
Jucatochavo: from nvidia.com directly?10:29
chavoyes10:29
Jucatointelikey: nope... I don't usually exploit10:29
intelikeyor the watch command?    no not real time enough.10:30
intelikeybut it wasn't for me i was just playing with it cause someone asked...10:30
Jucatothe watch command10:30
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intelikeyi don't really mind that a shell opened in my irc client.  they'll have a time trying to gain any root access and i have no sensitive data    but it's not every day someome succeeds at something like that.10:32
intelikeykinda took me by surprise.... i was in another tty playing with the watch command and came back to see that i'd been owned...10:34
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shinigamiowned by?10:38
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intelikeystill not sure.10:39
intelikeyi'm looking in the logs but i'm not finding anything....10:40
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shinigamihow did u discover?10:40
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intelikeydoesn't really look like anyone actually gained any access,  just remotely triggered an exploit.10:41
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intelikeyshinigami read the post  ^10:41
intelikey<intelikey> i don't really mind that a shell opened in my irc client.  <<< ^10:41
shinigamiok i created a partition 5.5gig for / , and 1gig for swap, the rest of the space for /home10:42
intelikeywell i guess that may be a little vague.    when i came back to this tty.  there was a shell running where an irc client used to be.10:42
shinigamiwhen i'm at / , everything in / is consider as 5.5 gig partition, except /home ??10:42
intelikeythat would have been nothing if the irc client had just died.  but there were actually several shells running in the same tty at one time.10:43
intelikeyshinigami correct  ^10:44
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intelikeywell and the ram mounted on /dev  and /var/lo*10:44
intelikeymount might reviel that10:45
intelikeyif not cat /proc/mounts10:45
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shinigamii'm looking at df -h ..abit confusing10:45
intelikeyman du10:46
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intelikeyshinigami what's confusing about that ?10:46
shinigamivarrun, varlock, udev, devshm, lrm = swap memory partition?10:46
intelikeymemory10:46
intelikeyRAM10:47
fairmanHi, i need help to set more IP adress for one network card, could somebody advice me? I have problem with eth010:47
shinigamii'm concern about 5.5gig not enough for / partition ? 50% used up now...10:47
intelikeyand all the same ram at that.... i guess that is confusing...10:47
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intelikeyshinigami concerned about 5G /  .... you have almost everything in there that you will ever have unless that's a wev server then /var should be seperate. and larger.10:48
shinigamihaha....10:49
KomiaPoikai am imbecile. how do i install a kernel server in ubuntu?10:50
intelikeyshinicami the whole installation is less than 3g the way you have it now.   and you think you will add another 2G of packages ?10:51
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fairmanI need right syntax for adding netmask - this is bad (ifconfig netmask addr eth0:0 255.255.255.192), could somebody write me right syntax?10:51
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shinigamiphew..so its enough cool hehe10:52
shinigamifairman: u could edit /etc/network/interfaces ??10:53
fairmanshinigami: yes10:53
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intelikeyKomiaPoika "kernel server" ?10:54
shinigamifairman: so ..what u want? hehe10:54
shinigamifairman: look in that file, see the line which have eth0 ?10:55
intelikeyedit as root  ^10:56
fairmanshinigami:My goal is set one internal IP for internal network and i have one public IP for the public network (internet) Could i send you my interfaces file throught PM?10:56
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shinigamifairman: your current computer is connected to where? a router/server/adsl modem? <-- is dhcp server enabled or you have to provide a static ip ?10:58
shinigamioh... i can't do10:58
shinigamioh... i can't do PMs.. it says i'm not registered10:58
shinigamihaha10:58
intelikey!register10:58
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration10:58
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fairmanshinigami: I have static IP (10.107.30.24... internal) and public IP. We do not have dhcp server10:59
shinigami2fairman: k..do you know the..gateway for the internet?10:59
shinigami2then it should be... iface eth0 inet static11:00
fairmanshinigami2: I now my default gateway - 10.107.30.111:00
shinigami2address 10.107.30.2411:00
shinigami2netmask 255.255.255.011:00
KomiaPoikaintelikey: some server that automatically fetches new kernels and makes them readily available11:00
fairmanshinigami2: http://hradecke.frisbee.cz/tmp/interfaces.txt - this is my config file11:01
intelikeyreadily available too ?   general public ?11:01
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intelikeyKomiaPoika i'm sorry you'll have to spell it out for me.  fetching from where and makeing avalable to whom    so i'll have some idea what you need to get that done.11:03
KomiaPoikaintelikey: to make the new kernels available for itself and other linux boxes on the lan11:03
shinigami2fairman: hi11:05
shinigami2fairman: u try http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4246/11:05
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shinigami2fairman: do a ifdown eth0 and ifup eth0 ..11:05
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fairmanshinigami2: yes, i did /etc/init.d/networking restart11:06
intelikeyfetching from the repos, making avalable to the boot loader is a simple matter of installing linux-image-generic   or the like.   to make the same packages avalable to local net.  you'll need to ftp them.  or copy them to a shared dir      to fetch kernels from non-ubuntu.repo'd sources you'll have to wget or other fetch means from the address you want... kernel.org or the like.11:06
fairmanshinigami2: and now i need add second IP adress for internet, i was trying it throught a few manuals, but it everytime failed11:07
intelikeyKomiaPoika so cron job one box to keep it's kernel uptodate and cron the next step to cp /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-* to a share11:08
shinigami2fairman: i suppose.. the second ip address you talking about..is the gateway11:08
shinigami2fairman: what's the thing that connects u to internet?? (gateway)11:08
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shinigami2fairman: is it 10.107.30.1 ??11:09
fairmanshinigami2: My gateway (access point -wifi network) is 10.107.30.1 and i need to set up my second IP 89.248.244.611:09
fairmanshinigami2: yes11:09
shinigami2second ip?11:09
shinigami2*scratch head*11:09
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intelikeyhave the other boxes cp from the share to their /var/cache/apt/archives/   and have them run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade      that will install the updated kernel packages.       if that helps you...11:10
fairmanshinigami2: No second, but public - for internet access11:10
shinigami2ohhhhhhhh you mean the wan ip11:10
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shinigami2u can ignore that wan ip first11:11
shinigami2can u type "route" and paste for me what u see?11:11
intelikey!paste11:11
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)11:11
shinigami22 lines11:12
crazy_busI got a new harddrive and I am installing kubuntu.  I wan't to get my firefox bookmarks off my old harddrive.  What do I copy?11:12
intelikeyare you sure it's only 2 lines ?11:12
shinigami2haha...no11:13
shinigami2crazy_bus: old harddrive is using what?11:13
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intelikeycrazy_bus /home/crazy_bus's_name/.*firefox/something/bookmarks.xml    or something like that.11:14
crazy_busMy old harddrive was using kubuntu11:14
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intelikeyactually /mountpoint/home/* ^11:14
shinigami2go ~/.mozilla/firefox/funnycodes/bookmark*11:15
intelikeyanyway it's a hidden folder  yeah .mozilla  or .mozilla-firefox  or some thing11:16
shinigami2gtg11:16
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intelikeyi didn't really see anything i liked about it.  but i'm not a serfer...11:17
KomiaPoikaintelikey: okay, thanks11:18
intelikeyeyecandy to the blind, music to the deaf, and mountian climbing to the lame...    just not worth much.11:19
intelikeyKomiaPoika if that's not specific enough or not the "way" you want to do it, just hail me.   and you're welcome.11:20
fairmanshinigami2: i am sorry, i had connection problem - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4248/11:20
intelikey-:- SignOff shinigami2: #kubuntu (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))11:20
KomiaPoikaintelikey: no i think that's what i want11:20
intelikeyrequires setting up two cron jobs and a local share.  on the server end and the client end one cron job   pretty simple.11:21
KomiaPoikagotcha11:21
fairmanhm, shinigami2 went offline, could somebe advice me how to add WAN IP for this settings: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4248/ ?11:25
crazy_busto the person who said I should do a memory check.  I did 5 passes and couldn't find any errors11:26
intelikeymemory or badblocks check ?   i said that yestergo...11:27
intelikeyi don't think i mentioned memory though11:27
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intelikeycrazy_bus did you badblocks the drive like i sujested ?    just curious how that turned out...11:29
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StooJHello all11:29
intelikeysay11:29
crazy_busYou left11:30
crazy_busIt wouldn't badblocks the entired harddrive all at once.  It said it was busy11:30
crazy_busBut it check the individule partitions just fine11:31
crazy_bus*checked11:31
crazy_busand it ran on the affected partition for a long time and then finished without saying anything11:32
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intelikeytheres the problem.  if it wouldn't check the disk then the disk is not functioning properly....      errr  did you      swapoff -a      first ?     if so the disk is bad.  if not that's why it wouldn't check it.11:32
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crazy_busI only thought about the harddrives.  I forgot about swap :)11:33
crazy_busI tried to ask you but you left :)11:33
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akruscould someone help me configuring linphone?11:34
akrusI can hear everything, but noone does hear me11:34
intelikeywell that happens...   everybody gotta sleep sometime.11:34
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crazy_buswould the check on the bad partition be just as good (for that part of the drive) as a check on the whole drive?11:34
StooJI would be very grateful a bit of help with installing if someone has a minute to spare11:35
waylandbillStooJ: what's giving you trouble?11:37
intelikeywell  one would think so.    at first, but.  if the drive geometery or partition table was unstable for some cause   then actually,  NO.    but most likely, and i hate to think this and hate to say it, but most likely it's the kernel and the specific hardware some how not jiving togather.      if the hareware is stable for othere systems and disk is flawless.... that only leaves the kernel really.11:38
StooJJust a concept11:38
intelikeycrazy_bus ^11:38
StooJTrying a dual boot system - what does "Hide" mean in the partition editor?11:38
crazy_busintelikey: I got a new harddrive today anyway :)11:38
StooJDoes it hide the partition from the next step in the installer? Or does it hide it from Kubuntu when it's installed?11:39
intelikeycrazy_bus what will you take for the old one ?11:39
intelikeyi'm curious about it...11:39
intelikeyno wait.  i don't have any sata interface atm...11:40
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intelikeythat was sata wasn't it ?11:40
crazy_busI was thinking of copying my /home partition.  But then I thought I may as well just start again.  I'm copying my video's, audio, source files and my firefox bookmarks11:40
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intelikeyoh you are an ausi  shipping would be high too...11:42
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crazy_busWere you asking me about sata?11:43
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GalaZhi11:43
intelikeyyeah11:43
crazy_busNo I just use ide11:43
crazy_busI don't have sata on my motherboard11:43
GalaZguys how can i see the configuration of my kde?11:43
intelikeyoh ok  but shipping would still be high...11:43
intelikeyso probably not worth it just to test the thing...11:44
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crazy_busintelikey: I didn't pay for shipping.  I broke down and bought a hard drive from an electronics shop11:44
osloi'd like to use real transparency with kicker & yakuake ,i'm on dapper any infos ??11:44
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intelikeyGalaZ kcontrol ?11:44
biohazard# ubuntu.pl.11:45
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GalaZintelikey i've a problem11:45
intelikeycrazy_bus i meant from you to me...11:45
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crazy_bussorry11:45
biohazardubuntu.pl11:45
GalaZi can't write the # ( now i've pasted it )11:45
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intelikeyGalaZ hmmm qwerty devork other?11:46
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crazy_busI hope the new harddrive doesn't have the same problems.  I am installing to it now from the livecd11:46
GalaZqwerty11:46
intelikeyshift 3   ?11:46
GalaZ11:46
intelikeyok11:46
intelikeycat /etc/environment11:47
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GalaZPATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games"11:47
intelikeycrazy_bus yeah i hope it doesn't, also.11:47
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intelikeyGalaZ hmmm ok. hit alt+f2   and type in  "kcontrol"  and enter it.  (no quotes)11:48
GalaZim in11:49
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intelikeygive me two shakes,  i'm starting a gui so i can see where it is.11:49
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GalaZ?11:50
intelikeyyou only shook once...11:50
intelikeypriferials > keyboard11:51
GalaZim on keyboard11:51
biohazardubntu.pl11:51
Jucato!pl | biohazard11:51
ubotubiohazard: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl11:51
intelikeythe default button.11:51
biohazarddzieki11:52
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intelikeyJucato and where is it in edgy that the language for the keyboard is found in kcontrol ?11:52
biohazard nie wiem jak wpisac11:52
Jucatokcontrol or system settings?11:52
biohazard zeby mi wskakiwalo11:52
Jucatosystem settings -> Regional & Language11:52
Jucatobiohazard: English only please11:53
GalaZi cant do nothing in keyboard settings for #11:53
intelikeyyes regional > keyboard layout11:53
GalaZok i've writed setxkbmap -model  -layout it11:53
GalaZand now work11:54
GalaZin shell11:54
intelikeynot keyborad settings  but  keyboard layout   in kcontrol11:54
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GalaZah11:54
intelikeythere ya go... :)11:54
intelikeyyour welcome.11:55
intelikey:)11:55
GalaZthx u intelikey :D11:55
JucatoKControl -> Regional & Accessibility -> Keyboard Layout or System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout11:55
GalaZsorry im new :P i've donwloaded this yesterday11:55
GalaZso you can call me newbie :D11:55
intelikeywe all start at some point11:56
intelikeyGalaZ kcontrol is your friend   :)11:56
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intelikeyand this is kde     that means right click everything   :)11:57
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cntbtransitioning existong installation from sda7 to hda7 thru acronis same layout different interface12:03
StooJTrying a dual boot system - what does "Hide" mean in the partition editor?12:03
StooJDoes it hide the partition from the next step in the installer? Or does it hide it from Kubuntu when it's installed?12:03
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intelikeyit hides it from windows       i guess12:04
intelikeycan you hide a partition from linux ?12:04
StooJFrom Windows?12:04
StooJOops.12:04
StooJI've set the XP partitions to hidden12:05
intelikeyi don't think that's what you want.12:05
intelikeybut i don't use paritions so i don't try to keep up with all that too closly12:05
geniiYes, you can hide partitions and add passwords to them even12:06
StooJNo. Can I just unmount the windows partitions in the installer?12:06
geniiThere is a utility for this on the Ultimate Boot Cd for example12:06
StooJGenii, does the "hide" option hide the partitions from linux or from Windows?12:06
intelikeygenii how ?     how do you hide a partition from linux ?12:06
StooJI can't find an explanation of what "hide" actually does in the partition setup12:07
geniiintelikey I'm not exactly sure how the machanics worjk but it locked me out of changing anything to one I modified this way before.12:07
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intelikeygenii hmmm   you have it still that way ?12:08
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geniiintelikey No, I was messing with it to see how it worked. I put in the password to unlock it then merged it elsewhere after12:09
geniiintelikey From what I can gather it's some executable that resides in the mbr12:09
intelikeysounds like encription  to me.12:09
StooJIs there a way to hide the Linux partitions from XP?12:10
geniiintelikey a minute, I'll find the name of the app that does that12:11
LynoureStooJ: xp cannot read ext3 by default anyway12:11
geniiintelikey http://www.rockbox.org/lock.html12:11
intelikeyStooJ yes, the boot loader can hide partitions from M$12:12
GalaZintelikey, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4250/   how can i install firefox?12:12
intelikey!ff | GalaZ12:13
ubotuGalaZ: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins12:13
StooJLynoure: I was going to install FS-Drive12:14
cntbinstallation was on sda . now transitioned and trying to recover on hda12:14
StooJIntelikey: how easy is it to mess about with the bootloader? It there a gui?12:15
cntbbott still looks for sda and I want to correct this12:15
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waylandbillanyone know of a program that will take a list of email addresses and send a seperate copy of an email to each address? (i.e. form letter)12:16
GalaZhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4250/12:17
intelikeycntb  edit /etc/fstab  /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/devices.list    and rebuild your initramfs.img    part of those are required on any migration especally the first and last12:17
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geniiwaylandbill massmail12:17
intelikeyGalaZ i saw that already.12:17
intelikeyand don't care to see it again.12:17
cntbintelikey: tyvm12:18
GalaZoh thx u don't see :D12:18
cntbhow do I rebuild initramfs.img12:18
intelikey!ff212:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ff2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:18
intelikey!firefox212:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about firefox2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:18
cntbis there any detect uti;lity Ican use to auto rebuild /etc/fstab intelikey12:19
cntbin rescue mode i mean ! on alternate CD booting in my target root partition12:19
intelikeycntb you setup all the other stuff and then issue the command   mkinitramfs -o <outputfilename> `uname -r`     inturpreting <*>12:19
cntbthat sounds like a clue intelikey wow12:20
cntbhow can I figure out the switches you give on mkinitramfs - ?12:21
intelikeycntb man mkinitramfs12:21
intelikeyman man12:21
intelikeyman intro12:21
intelikeyman info12:21
intelikeyman man man man12:22
cntbfound mkinitramfs - in /usr/sbin12:22
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intelikeyman12:23
geniiwaylandbill If you have mailutils installed, you have commandline mail installed. If you have a text file of email addresses comma separated, you can do: mail -s"subject here" -b `cat /emaillisthere` < somefilecontainingthebodyofemail12:23
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cntbintelikey: `manned it alright now what is the outputfile in mkinitramfs ?12:23
intelikey/boot/init*.img*12:24
intelikeylook and see12:24
cntbwhat if I issue command mkinitramfs with no switches in rescue env  intelikey ?12:24
intelikeythey are kernel versin specific12:24
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cntbOK12:24
cntblooking in /boot tyvm intelikey12:25
intelikeynp12:25
cntblps tab my nick so I can see your answers12:25
waylandbillgenii: ok. thanks12:25
cntbother than that you are very helpful12:25
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zorgluim running xgl and i got quite a weird bug, if i launch konversation, i got the server list window poping up and no way to close it. while all other windows works fine. anybody already encountered similar issues ?12:26
cntbintelikey: one more pls12:27
intelikeyok.12:28
cntbintelikey:  is /boot/initrd.img-2.6.17-10-generic ny output file for mkinitramfs ?12:28
geniiwaylandbill np12:28
cntbis it intelikey ?12:28
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intelikeycntb if the kernel version is 2.6.17-10-generic then yes.  uname -r    or uname -a12:29
intelikeyyou can build for any installed version of the kernel.12:29
intelikeyls /lib/modules/12:30
intelikeythat will show you what kernels are installed.12:30
intelikeyor "should" show you.12:30
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intelikeyi started to write a script for migrating root partitions   but found that it needed user input anyway and figured no body would use it...   so i think i rm'd it.12:34
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cntbintelikey: i would pretty much use it12:34
cntbgood for you12:35
intelikeyah no, i still have it.   it's not finished. i stopped at reinstalling grub...12:35
cntbhi Jucato12:35
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Quilanohi all12:35
cntbwill be happy to be in touch with you12:35
Jucatohi cntb12:35
cntbI and and colleague do a lot of XP installs intelikey12:36
intelikeyk12:36
intelikeyi'll think about finishing it...12:36
cntbnow intelikey I am trying for more than 9 months to add linux to those quick installss12:36
cntb;-) intelikey acronis or ghost12:37
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Quilanoanyone experienced problems with xserv-xorg while upgrading to edgy?12:37
cntbwhere do you live intelikey /12:37
intelikeyQuilano lots have12:37
intelikeycntb in a house.12:37
zorglu!info kdevelop12:37
ubotukdevelop: An IDE for Unix/X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.4-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 7894 kB, installed size 24892 kB12:37
cntbsure intelikey how wise of you to find a house12:38
intelikeyQuilano what kind of trubble specificly ?12:38
intelikeyyeah beets a tent.12:38
cntbwhat TZ intelikey what country ?12:38
Quilanointelikey: read a lot of threats, but apt-get -f install did not help. Neither can install nor remove xserver-xorg12:39
intelikeynow if i wanted that plastered all over the internet i wouldn't go through the trubble of making my ip show some place else cntb12:39
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intelikeyQuilano sudo dpkg --configure -a12:39
cntbwhy uname -r gives me 2.6.17-10-386 intelikey while ls /lib/modules shows only -generic12:40
intelikeycause you are running a kernel form some other installation ?12:40
cntbno worries intelikey. PM it if you feel me a friend12:40
cntbyep intelikey from alternateCD rescue right12:41
intelikeyyep12:41
intelikeyso build for the installed kernel.12:41
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cntbpaste me your suggestion again pls for mkinitramfs command. this time "nick tabbed" pls12:42
intelikeyi've gota do rounds. back when.12:42
wladimirsomeone knows, how to install qt for development under Dapper drake? qmake does not do anythin by typing qmake -project test.cpp12:42
Quilanointelikey: dpkg gives me a bunch of errors. Unfortunately I can only see the last 25 lines12:43
wladimirqt 4 i mean12:43
geniiQuilano It won't let you install the later xserver-xorg? You can specify version to install/prefer by: apt-get install xserver-xorg=1:7.1.1ubuntu6.212:44
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Quilanogenii: this gives me a lot of dependency problems (xutils, xutils-dev, xserver-xorg, xserver-xorg-core)12:46
GalaZHello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Macromedia's Flash Player. Get the latest flash player.12:47
geniiQuilano Yes it says something like prefers version x but version x will be installed?12:47
GalaZhow can I see if JavaScript is turned off?12:47
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voicu!wav2ogg12:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wav2ogg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:48
voicu!wav12:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wav - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:48
Quilanogenii: depends on >: 1:1.1.1. but 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.5 should be installed...12:48
Quilanogenii: I have it in German, so sorry if the translation is not 100% correct12:49
geniiQuilano do  apt-get -f install   then after  apt-get upgrade   then try to install it again12:49
drarem_afkhow do i get audio working12:49
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geniiQuilano: with sudo as neccesary of course12:49
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Quilanogenii: I'll try this. But sudo apt-get -f install already gives me problems: dpkg: xserver-xorg: Dependenc problem, but will erase it anyway: x-window-system-core depends on xserver-xorg...12:53
cntbintelikey gone12:53
menahi ...freinds .......i had a problem with my network conection with kubuntu and i got this after it was working i dont what happened but i install kubuntu for begining with xp and now the samr problem is i cant conect ....so if you have any idea plz or if there is a channel plz tell mee12:54
menafor>>>from*12:54
menasamr>>>same*12:54
geniiQuilano I had a similar issue when I did a dist-upgrade styraight from breezy to edgy. I spent a while backtracking  to the root dependency packages. then doing the routine of: apt-get install package=specificversion   then apt-get -f install then apt-get upgrade then install the package again and see what further up dep it needs and so on. Tedious but finally got it12:57
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Quilanogenii: Hmm, thats what I was afraid of :-(01:00
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geniiQuilano The main problem is that the database of packages is still using the old versions as the preferred and so on. I looked for a while on how to change this but made little headway01:02
Quilanogenii: So I'll just do the same as you did...01:02
geniiQuilano It gets a little further every time til it hits some root package then it goes pretty good01:03
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cntbstill stuck at initramfs01:10
cntbwhat is yaboot ?01:11
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sorush20hi where is a very goo network manger for kubuntu01:11
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sorush20I'm using wpa_supplicant, and knetworkmanger is not even detecting my network..01:12
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ubuntu_trying to install from live cd  chose no localization  installer seems to be hung?01:16
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ubuntu_waited 5 minutes no change.  killed installer.   restarting installer.01:17
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ubuntu_chose no localization.  installer seems to be hung again.  what to do ?01:18
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smart_!kde01:20
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE01:20
smart_!kde 3.5.601:20
ubotukde: the K Desktop Environment official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:47 (edgy), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB01:20
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ubuntu_no help installing ?01:20
smart_what is the rep to add to adept01:20
smart_for install kde 3.5.601:20
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Jucatosmart_: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php01:21
smart_jucato, okay01:22
smart_jucato, all mirros are uploded01:23
Jucatosmart_: you only  need to add one01:24
smart_jucato, i know but i asked bec i wouldnt to take miro wich isnt complelted01:24
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Jucatosmart_: they're all updated01:24
smart_jucato, no problem01:24
smart_jucato, okay01:24
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johny454_hey, how to set Konqueror to open a webpage on its startup, like others browsers01:47
Mena!beryl01:47
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects01:47
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weetabixsalut tlm01:48
paulcarpenterjohny_: settings -> Configure konqueor -> Home URL01:48
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paulcarpenterguys, if I installed Debian, KDE, and all the programs that I use, then in what way would what I have be different to kubuntu?01:50
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johny_paulcarpenter: Where exactly this setting is located - i can't find it?01:51
ubuntu_so problems...01:51
geniiShouldn't sudo apt-get -f install linux-image-$(uname -r)                refresh your modules to the right kernel version tags?01:51
paulcarpenterSettings is between Tools and Help at the Top01:51
Jucatojohny_: actually, Open up Konqueror (web browser), go to the web page, then Settings -> Save View Profile01:52
paulcarpenterConfigure Konqueor is at the bottom of that list01:52
JucatoMake sure the "Save URL in profile" is checked01:52
johny_paulcarpenter: heh, I do know that :)01:52
Jucatopaulcarpenter: that will change the Home URL, not the startup page01:52
paulcarpenterthen the Home URL is under the behavior tab01:52
ubuntu_next login i can't see anything more than login window help please01:53
paulcarpenterthat's what a Home page is.01:53
Jucatojohny_, paulcarpenter: that will change the URL of the File Manager mode01:53
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paulcarpenterah01:53
Jucatopaulcarpenter: <johny454_> hey, how to set Konqueror to open a webpage on its startup, like others browsers01:53
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johny_Jucato: you're right, thanks man paulcarpenter:thanks anyway01:53
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johny_done01:54
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johny_It's the first time I've used Konqueror as a browser. I've been using firefox so far01:55
ubuntu_anyone who can help me?01:55
Jucato!anyone01:55
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?01:55
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johny_ubuntu_: what's the problem?01:56
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jason__hi01:56
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johny_Jucato: are you an op in the channel?01:57
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Jucatojohny_: why?01:58
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johny_Jucato: becouse I've noticed you know how to control the bot...01:58
Jucatoeverybody can make the bot spit out factoids01:59
Jucato!bot | johny_01:59
ubotujohny_: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots01:59
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johny_Jucato: that's what i was talking about01:59
ubuntu_<ubotu>:sorry i am very niewbie. I am not native english.Yersteday all work fine.Now i start Kubuntu i try to login and i obtain the login window again!02:00
Jucatoubuntu_: ubotu is a bot02:00
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ubuntu_the password is the same.02:00
johny_ubuntu_: the login?02:00
ubuntu_<Jucato>:tnks :-))02:01
paulcarpenterare you sure you haven't mistyped your password or username? (accidental caps maybe?)02:01
ubuntu_<johny_>:yes02:01
johny_ubuntu_: try "sudo (usrname) passwd02:01
lenscapeI've had some disk errors and apt is broken. How can I recreate its database?02:01
ubuntu_ <paulcarpenter>:yes02:02
Jucato!adept crash fix | lenscape02:02
ubotulenscape: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 02:02
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ubuntu_<johny_> ubuntu_: try "sudo (usrname) passwd :moment i try & then return tnks02:03
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lenscapeJucato: trying...02:04
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lenscapeJucato: Great. Seems to have done the trick. thanks very much02:04
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Jucatosure no problem02:04
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abhinayiam using kubuntu-desktop, the GTK applications aren't looking like as in Gnome, i mean its looking like flat, & no GTK theme for it, any help ?02:04
pitukayou don't want the KDE look on all Applications?02:05
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abhinaypituka: i want GTK applications as in Gnome02:06
abhinaymray:02:06
mraywell then i guess you have to use Gnome-not KDE ;)02:06
abhinaymray: firefox not looking good in KDE02:07
abattoirabhinay: try changing the GTK theme in System Settings02:07
mraythere is an option that handles that look under "start->system settings->appearance -> GTK style and fonts"02:07
abhinayok02:08
mraysee if it makes you happy!02:08
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mrayanybody knows why i can't sucessfully assign VLC as standard player for all video files?02:09
mrayi say "remember ..blabla", but next time i double klick Kaffeine shows up again02:09
cntbguys check this offline installing http://blog.entner.net/2006/08/16/make-ubuntu-dvds-including-everything/02:10
cntbHow-To Make Ubuntu DVDs Including Main, the Universe and Everything02:10
Pensa`MIAmove vlc to the top in konqueror preferences-file associations mray02:10
mrayPensa`MIA: i did that, too - with no effect at all!02:12
cntbcan I do BERYL on dapper ?02:12
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Pensa`MIAit works here :s02:12
mrayyou mean in the "general" tab, not in the "Embedding" tab right?02:13
Pensa`MIAtab?02:15
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Pensa`MIAjust in konqueror - preferences - file associations02:15
mrayi got the problem! Filename Patterns was empty for some reason!!!02:15
mraybut thanks for insisting that was the place to look at!02:16
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Pensa`MIA:)02:16
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EruantalonIs there a better way to search through your computer(with up-to-date results) than using locate? Every time i need to use it I have to du sudo updatedb first because the db is behind.02:26
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abhinaymray: hey , where is GTK settings in System Settings ?02:27
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mrayunder appearance02:28
sebbarhi, is there something like a qt frontend to amule?02:29
mrayamule looks like any other KDE application here...02:29
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abhinaymray: no02:30
abhinaymray: there is Fonts, Icons, Style, Window Decoration02:30
abhinaybut, no GTK settings02:30
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mrayabhinay: under "Appearance" i have 6 entries: Colors, Fonts, GTK styles and fonts, Icon, Style ans Window Decorations02:31
mraywhat version of Kubuntu do you use?02:31
abhinayoh, i don't have GTK styles and fonts :(02:31
abhinaymray: 3.502:31
abhinaymray: i installed kde-core first02:31
mraymaybe you should consider installing a package that adds that entry to your system settings..02:31
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vapashosi need a programm for web design anyone how knows?02:32
manu_hi02:32
manu_dwidmann: hi02:32
mrayhtml tool or grafics tool?02:32
vapashossomething like dreamweaver02:32
mrayhtml -> Quanta02:32
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vapashosif there exists such a goode programm02:33
mrayQuanta plus is as good as it gets afaik.02:33
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waylandbillin vim, how can I replace commas with linefeeds?02:34
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geniiwaylandbill I dunno but it looks like maybe here has some help http://www.vim.org/tips/tip.php?tip_id=3102:38
mrayanybody knows how to tell knetwork-manager to use a SPECIAL W-Lan network?02:38
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mray(not the next best unencrypted one from my neighbour)02:38
waylandbillgenii: perfect.02:38
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GalaZwhat program use u for listen mp3?02:48
sebbarGalaZ: the one and only amarok02:49
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melbjasecan i ask a stupid question? whats the diffrence between apt-get autoremove and aptitude remove?02:53
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geniiless layers02:55
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melbjasethanks :) so aptitude is still preferble02:55
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geniiIf you want the bottom layer use dpkg LOL02:56
melbjasedpkg scares me...for now lol02:57
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geniiWell, the man page is extremely informative02:59
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melbjaseyes it is. was looking at it earlier ..  just a lot to remeber ....thanks for help earlier03:01
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sorush20how do I type in greek letters with my british keyboard in firefox ?03:04
mrayno idea :P03:04
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manesqHi03:06
soulridersorush20: change the language ?03:06
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cntbwhat do you think of linux mint03:06
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namuchthis should be simple, but it is the first time i've had a problem like this on any linux distro: why does konqueror ignore the ctrl key when trying to select multiple files?03:06
cntbvapashos hi03:07
cntbvapashos go ubuntu-gr03:07
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sebbarsorush: how much text do you have to write? if it's just a couple of letters get a greek alphabet and copy/paste03:11
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vyomanKmail doesn't save the mail account password for two out of three mail accounts i am using, any ideas?03:12
lenscapevyoman: I have the same problem.03:13
lenscapevyoman: no idea why. Only happens on kubuntu. My SuSE system is fine03:13
vyomanlenscape: thanks - shared troubles are half the troubles :)03:14
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lenscapeI think Kubuntu is pretty buggy. They've messed about with KDE so bits don't work properly03:14
lenscapeI've assigned Win+V as shortcut to start Vim. It doesn't work. It works on all my other systems03:15
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lenscapeI just end up with a 'v' typed into whatever my current window is03:15
lenscapeother win+ shortcuts are working fine!03:15
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vyomanlenscape: i am very happy with kubuntu - i do all my development on it - but perhaps I have to move away from kmail03:16
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namuchwhy does konqueror ignore the ctrl key when trying to select multiple files? this doesn't happen on any other distro i've used, any ideas?03:16
lenscapevyoman: kmail is great.03:16
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soulridernamuch: works for me =/03:17
vyomanlenscape: true true - but it hangs on the spam and anti virus filters ...03:17
lenscapevyoman: have you tried SuSE?03:17
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lenscapevyoman: I use the bogofilter on kmail and no problems03:18
xevilnamuch: try using the shift key03:18
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vyomanlenscape: i started off with slackware and then SUSE for many years, however i never really used as a develpment machine - only kubuntu made me make the switch03:18
namuchthe shift key works as advertised, select multiple files in groups, but the ctrl-key behaves as if no key is being held down03:19
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namuchkonqueror is the only app mis-behaving, all others are doing what they should03:19
lenscapenamuch: check your keyboard configuration in kcontrol. Compare it with a system that works03:19
vyomanlenscape: is your bogo filter running without delays? are you using clam av?03:19
namuchi have kde 3.3.5 running on 4 other (gentoo) systems with no problems, so i'm a bit confused by this03:20
lenscapevyoman: I don't use any AV on Linux. Bogo runs quite fast enough03:20
xevilnamuch: OK, my bad... I get your drift... the ctrl key works for me03:20
vyomanlenscape: thanks for help!03:21
vyomanlenscape:  *your help!03:21
namuchactually i meant kde 3.5.5, not 3.3.503:22
lenscapehmm...got Win+V working. I reassigned it to a few other letters first then back to Win+V and now it's OK!03:22
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stdinwooh, amarok 1.4.5 is in feisty now :)03:22
lenscapeflakey03:23
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slyfoxDoes anyone here managed to use Bluetooth ?03:23
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slyfoxDid anyone...03:24
lenscapeslyfox: I used it on SuSE. Couldn't get it working on Kubuntu03:24
stdinI *have* used it before, but that was a while ago now03:24
slyfoxlenscape: What is your problem? Mine is that it discoveres my phone, but when I press Next, it starts to search for phone services, but just does it forever with a 52% cpu use and that is it. Kbluetooth..03:25
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slyfoxThere is this, but I have no idea how to use it: http://bluetooth.kmobiletools.org/taxonomy/term/503:26
lenscapeslyfox: My problem is it never sees any devices03:26
slyfoxHow to isnall it I mean03:26
slyfoxlenscape: See if you can isntall the latest version03:26
slyfoxbrb03:26
lenscapekbluetoothd seems to be working OK03:26
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qtgeoaloha!03:33
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qtgeoI DO have to admint that kubuntu runs GREAT!!!!!!!!03:33
qtgeothanx debian!!!!!!!103:33
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qtgeou guys deserve a big BRAVO!03:33
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stdinthank the guys in #kubuntu-devel too :)03:34
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slyfoxWhere do we report the bug that bluetooth is not working ?03:36
stdin!bug03:37
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots03:37
Jucatoslyfox: try to get someone to reproduce your problem03:37
stdinyou can also file a support request03:37
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slyfoxJucato: good question. It will take me some time to do that. Who has a bluetooth and a phone in Kubuntu ?03:38
JucatoI do. USB Bluetooth dongle and a Nokia 660003:38
Jucatoand they both work fine. just checked more than an hour ago03:39
slyfoxJucato: do you use Kmobile tools ?03:39
Jucatoah no. not that...03:39
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slyfoxJucato: can you please tell me your step to connect ?03:39
Jucatow/ kmobiletools? or just plain pairing of devices?03:40
slyfoxJucato: Well, first of all, what do you use if not Kmobile tools? My problem is that in Kmobiel tools - bluetooth wizard sees my phone and when I press next, it searches for my phone supported services and it just stops there with 52% CPU use and that is it. I have to kill the process. Just Kbluetooth works as I can enter my phone and browse files fine. But there is no way I can somehow manage my phonebook and03:41
slyfoxcalendar.. What do you do ?03:41
sorush20can I get to use protein explorer in ubuntu pdb viewer03:42
Jucatoslyfox: I only pair my phone and my pc to transfer files... that's all03:42
slyfoxJucato: this sucks. I really wanted to sync my Korganizer with my phone.03:43
Jucatoso the problem might actually be in kmobiletools if you can use plain bluetooth just fine03:43
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slyfoxJucato: can you please see if you can use Kmobile tools ?03:43
Jucatook I'll try03:43
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dal1is there any startup script that runs as root i can append to?03:44
dal1like a init.d thing03:44
slyfoxJucato: Can it be, because I got kmobiel tools from here: http://www.kmobiletools.org/downloads and it was the latest verison, but for Kubuntu Depper ?03:44
Jucatoslyfox: ah you're on dapper? I'm on Edgy03:44
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slyfoxJucato: I am also on Edgy03:45
Jucatoah03:45
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slyfoxJucato: How is it going?03:52
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Jucatoslyfox: I don't even know how to connect the two using kmobiletools... I can pair my phone just fine w/ my pc using BT... but I'm not familiar with kmobile03:52
slyfoxJucato: did you download the latest package?03:53
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Jucatono. just the one from the repositories03:53
Jucato0.4.3.303:54
slyfoxJucato: In the latest package you get a wizzard which guides you. In the one from repositories, you have to specify the phone location n the devices03:54
Jucatook let me try03:54
geniiWell, just messing around trying to do a straight dist-upgrade from breezy to feisty I somehow ended up with only memtest as an option to boot ROFL03:55
Jucatogenii: simply because you can't/shouldn't03:55
geniiGood thing I have a CD03:55
geniiJucato Well, it was an experiment :)03:55
Jucatowell at least now you know better03:56
Jucatoand can advise others not to do it, even as an experiment :P03:56
genii:)03:56
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z0di4kI am running Xorg 7.1.1 on kUbuntu Edgy.  I have 3 monitors setup.  The first 2 are on a PCI-E nVidia GeForce 6600GT using proprietary nVidia drivers, the third is on a PCI Riva TnT2 using the nv driver.  The first time I run xorg every day, when I put the mouse on the third monitor xorg crashes.  I restart it, and it is stable all day long.  I can use the third monitor fine.  Any ideas?03:58
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slyfoxJucato: any news?04:00
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Jucatohm...04:00
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Jucatowell, I can connect fine04:01
Jucatonothing hangs up...04:01
slyfoxJucato: with what? with kmobile tools?04:02
Jucatoyes. the 0.5.0- beta version04:02
slyfoxJucato: how did you specify the device location ?! What is it ?04:02
slyfoxJucato: ah beta04:02
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JucatoCurrent testing version: KMobileTools 0.5.0 beta104:02
Jucatothat one from the download page you gave04:02
slyfoxJucato: so Kmobile tools finds your phone and when you click next it finds the services your phone supports ?04:02
Jucatoyes04:03
slyfoxJucato: Did you install from Debina Kubuntu Dapper ?04:03
Jucatoyes04:03
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slyfoxJucato: do you have kbluetooth running before you can use kmobile tools?04:03
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Jucatono. but of course I have the usb dongle connected04:04
JucatoFind Services takes a while, but it shows up04:04
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abattoirdoesn't kmobiletools now have that bluetooth pairing wizard?04:05
Jucatonot the one in the repos04:05
BluesKajHowdy All :)04:05
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abattoirhi BluesKaj :)04:05
Jucatoedgy repos only has 0.4.3.3. the one with the pairing wizard is 0.5.0-beta104:05
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slyfoxJucato: a while? how long for you ?04:05
BluesKajhi abattoir, Jucato04:05
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Jucatohi BluesKaj04:05
Jucatoslyfox: not more than 2 minutes iirc04:06
xsachais it legal to connect to someones wireless network and steal their net service if it isnt passworded?04:06
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slyfoxJucato: ok, lets see waht I will get, it is still searching fro services04:06
abattoirxsacha: in most places it's illegal04:06
BluesKajyup xsacha04:06
ubuntu_hi johny_ & all you guys i return so..04:07
xsachais it legal to login to their router and mess with their settings if they are using the default password (eg. smcadmin)04:07
Jucatonot only illegal, but also immoral (stealing)04:07
xsachai just checked default password smc networks on google and it's smcadmin and.. yep it works04:07
abattoirxsacha: that's even more of a crime :)04:07
BluesKajyes, xsacha ...do you really think that's ok ?04:08
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ubuntu_i repeat my problem..now i chating from kubuntu live..04:08
BluesKajget yer own router , xsacha04:08
xsachait's a windows network and they have all these shared docs.. pictures, deposits, university, resumes, world of warcraft, etc04:08
xsachais it legal to look through those?04:08
xsachai have a router04:08
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z0di4kxsacha: It is actually a very solid grey area.  Rulings have gone both ways lately on legality of "borrowing" internet services.  Lately the trend is towards it being illegal.  Logging in to their router to change stuff is definitely over the legal line.04:09
akrus_someone to help with compiz?04:09
johny_ubuntu_: nothing to do do with passwd?04:09
stdinxsacha: it's illegal to gain access to a computer system without prior permission04:09
slyfoxJucato: did you right click on the .deb and selecte install ?04:09
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z0di4karkus_: What are you trying to do?04:09
Jucatoslyfox: yes04:09
xsachastdin: doesnt having no password give permission? :(04:09
BluesKajwell xsacha , if you do this , don't say you haven't been warned !04:09
akrusz0di4k: actually compiz starts, effects working, but no window decorations at all04:10
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akrusso no title & borders04:10
Jucato!compiz | akrus04:10
ubotuakrus: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects04:10
z0di4karkus: Like leaving your door unlocked gives me permission to rummage through your stuff?04:10
abattoirxsacha: of course not04:10
stdinxsacha: no, to gain access to a system (passwordless or not) without permission is defined in law as cracking (or, less correctly, hacking)04:10
akrus?04:10
ubuntu_yesterday all works fine.today i start kubuntu but i stay firm in login window so i don't see initializing devices ... & other04:10
Jucato!offtopic04:10
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!04:10
Jucatonot only is this discussion offtopic, it's also bordering on very shaky legal matters, so please take it somewhere else04:11
xsachabut what about if it's not my fault? this software automatically connects to their router instead of mine04:11
xsachaok04:11
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ubuntu_ <johny_>:nothing.I'tsnot a pass problem i'ts a04:12
BluesKajxsacha, did it ever occur to you, that open network could be a honeypot set up to catch and prosecute ppl who use the network without registering for permission ?04:12
ubuntu_problem next login04:12
xsachanup04:12
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ubuntu_i can login in non graph shell. But kde not start04:13
slyfoxJucato: crap, it just searches forever04:13
z0di4kxsacha: I personally don't have major issues with using open access points.  I let people use mine all the time.  Just don't be a retard and run bittorent when using somebody else's access point.  *notice I said personally, not legally.  I have seen cases that go both ways on stealing vs. borrowing internet access.04:13
Jucatoslyfox: :(04:13
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johny_ubuntu_: what's error it is giving you?04:13
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BluesKajz0di4k, don't encourage him04:14
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ubuntu_ <johny_>:understed?04:14
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johny_ubuntu_: what you mean?04:14
ubuntu_ <johny_> :No errors04:14
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johny_ubuntu_: you said KDE doesn't start, so what happens when it should start?04:15
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ubuntu_simply login window go i expect initializing window & i see black and next the same login window04:16
ubuntu_<johny_> ubuntu_: you said KDE doesn't start, so what happens when it should start?:exactly04:16
johny_maybe try to run KDE from terminal, know how?04:17
ubuntu_how can start kde from a shell?04:17
johny_ubuntu_: w8 a min04:18
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ubuntu_ok :-))04:18
|kosmo|hi somone04:19
johny_try "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm/start04:19
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|kosmo|i put aa new hardisk in my computer04:19
|kosmo|how i can mount it04:19
|kosmo|?04:19
johny_ubuntu_: try "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm/start04:19
johny_Can someone help this guy (ubuntu_), I'm new to Linux?04:20
HymnToLifejohny_, that won't start KDE directly but KDM04:20
stdinjohny_: you mean "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start" ? (notice the space)04:20
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johny_HymnToLife: yeah04:21
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HymnToLifeubuntu_, try kdestart04:21
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ubuntu_ <johny_>:ok i try  &hope chat from my home04:22
HymnToLifethat wil start a KDE session without the need to login through KDM - since you're already logged in04:22
johny_ubuntu_: wait04:22
johny_ubuntu_: There are others trying to help, watch04:22
ubuntu_<johny_>:you know if from login menu one can chat?04:22
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johny_ubuntu_: I think it's possible from the shell, having an IRC terminal client installed04:23
ubuntu_<johny_>:how?04:24
johny_ubuntu_: "Hymn to life" said to you - "try kderestart"04:24
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oierhello every104:24
HymnToLifeubotu, tell ubuntu_ about irssi | ubuntu_, see the private message from ubotu.04:24
johny_HymnToLife: thanks04:24
oiercould someone help me04:25
johny_I'm a beginner so watch me carefully -:)04:25
oieri can't install an old version of java04:25
oieri suppose it must be done manually, not through synaptic04:26
oieri have xtracted the .bin files04:26
ubuntu_tnx guys you'r beautifull ;-))04:27
oierand i can get java started if i type ./java in that folder04:27
oierbut the system doesn't know about its existence04:27
Jucatooier: sudo update-alternatives --config java04:28
Jucatooier: then select the version of java you want as default04:28
oieraham04:28
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oieri'll try04:28
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cotuigracia04:30
oieri found as an alternative to java v.6 the gij-wrapper-4.1  I don't know what it is, but I'll have a look04:30
oierthx04:30
slyfoxJucato: http://www.kmobiletools.org/node/28504:30
slyfoxJucato: that is my problem04:30
Jucatoslyfox: maybe because mine is a nokia...04:30
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oiermmm I'm getting some more errors with this version of java.04:32
oierdo you know how to install a java1.5.00xx.bin extracted file?04:33
Jucatooier: you have java 1.6 (sun-java6-bin) installed? try removing it, then install java 1.5? (sun-java5-bin)04:34
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oieryeh, i did it as u say04:35
oierok i'll do it again04:35
slyfoxJucato: :) Yeah, Nokia is the best.04:37
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slyfoxJucato: What do you use to organize yourself? I am just curious. As in windows I used online tools - Google Calendar, Rememebr the milk and TiddlyWiki. What do you use in linux? FOr To Do, Calednar and notes ?04:38
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Jucatoslyfox: Kontact/Korganizer... but I don't sync w/ my phone04:38
JucatoI rarely go out/away anyway04:38
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oierok I uninstalled it and now when I type sudo update-alternatives --config java it says there is no java04:42
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oierI have also extracted the files from the java1.5.00xxx.bin file04:44
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oierbut the system ignores this info,04:45
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geniiphprojekt is good . I use it for extensive organising04:48
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johny_ubuntu_: still there?04:48
oierhow could I install other way java 1.5?04:49
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vyomanoier: you can download the JDK from SUN and follow the install instructions, don't forget to set JAVA_HOME04:49
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vyomanoier:  alternatively you can use APT and set the default VM as described above04:50
johny_ubuntu_: try to go on thi channel #kde04:50
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jacksondoes anybody what plugins do i need for to play 'ape' music files? cheers04:52
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ForgeAushey all04:55
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slyfoxwhat is the commend to change my name in irc ?04:55
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geniislyfox /nick newname04:56
slyfoxThanks04:56
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jacksonto play 'ape' files what plugin would i need? thx04:56
ForgeAus!pcsx204:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pcsx2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:56
ForgeAus!pcsx04:56
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ubotupcsx: Sony PlayStation emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.699df-rc3-1 (edgy), package size 8 kB, installed size 40 kB04:56
HymnToLifeubotu, tell jackson about repeat | jackson, see the private message from ubotu.04:57
ForgeAushas anyone tried to build PCSX2 in Kubuntu?04:57
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jacksonthanx04:57
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geniiNope, but mame runs fine :)05:00
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ForgeAushehe genii I can use mame05:02
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ForgeAusbut I have a PCSX2 .iso I want to try05:02
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ForgeAussorry PS2 .iso I want to try in PCSX205:02
ForgeAusbut I can't seem to install it05:02
ForgeAusbecause I don't know all this technical stuff about building programs05:02
geniiAh, no help then05:02
ForgeAusstrangely enough PCSX is no problem its even in ubuntu repositories05:03
ForgeAusI'm sure if I already had a binary it'd work ok! its just getting the binary out of it!05:03
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ForgeAusbtw Mame is awesome05:04
geniiYeah it's an oldie but goodie05:04
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ForgeAusbut theres a few things I'd like to try in other emulators that make doesn't/cant do05:04
ForgeAuslike 1 : sega saturns fighters megamix05:04
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ForgeAusand 2 : Capcom vs SNK2 (PS2 or Arcade)05:04
Dr_willisi always hated those kind of games...05:05
ForgeAushehe I love vs fighting games but then everyone's different05:05
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Dr_willisFrozenBubble Rules..05:05
Dr_willis:)05:05
ForgeAusfrozen bubble is quite good actually I tried it!05:05
ForgeAusI was impressed!05:05
Dr_willisFizzball is fun. but its comercial.05:05
ForgeAussure its no puzzle bubble but its the next best thing I seen out there05:06
Dr_willisOf course ya can always go the emulator route. and have oooooodles of games.05:06
ForgeAus(interestingly enough I actually prefer puxxle bobble 3 arcade or puzzle bobble/bust-a-move on SNES!)05:06
ForgeAusI already do have most capcom/neogeo games05:06
ForgeAusbeacuse I actually use/play them!05:06
Dr_willisYea - i got a large collection of games.. that i never play05:07
Dr_willis:)05:07
h3sp4wnI play metalslug05:07
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ForgeAusanything capcom and street fighter 2 -related I've had a go at05:13
ForgeAus(except the latest Capcom fighting jam sofar)05:13
ForgeAusI suck at all things sf3 too unfortunately...05:13
ForgeAuslooking to get that emulated on PC too (from either PCSX2 or if a CPS3 emulator comes out)05:13
ForgeAusI doubt I'll ever be good at that game tho05:13
ForgeAusjust doesn't seem to mesh with me very well like the alpha games do... or vs ones05:13
geniiThere used to be this macos game I played for hours on end... lemmings   it was freaking hypnotic05:14
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Dr_willisLemmings is out for many other os/machines05:15
Dr_willisgo get the Amiga emulator and the amiga version.05:16
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testmanhi folks05:16
Dr_willisor dosbox and track down some dos versions. :)05:16
testmanhow can i adjust the autostart settings when a audio cd is put into the cdrom?05:16
geniiheh :) tempting but I'll sit for hours and not get any work done05:16
Dr_willisgenii,  the reason computers were invented05:19
Dr_willistestman,  adjust what settings exactly?05:19
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testmanDr_willis: you know, the menu that pops up when you put in a cd? i dont get this anymore because i clicked the 'do this everytime'-checkbox, but now i want that popup back05:21
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Dr_willisI cant rember the last time i ever put in an audio cd... other then to Rip it to MP3.05:21
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h3sp4wnForgeAus: The only good one is streetfighter 2 turbo (jap)05:22
Dr_willisive seen some checkbox/auto-start settings somewhere...05:22
h3sp4wnForgeAus: (unless there is another one with a decent difficulty level I don't know about)05:22
testmanDr_willis: i searched the whole kcontrol config menus etc but with no luck05:22
Dr_willisI belive they may be Konqueror settings.05:22
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pixelationIs there a good kde program for finding duplicate or near-duplicate mp3's?05:24
Dr_willisIve seen some programs that can find Duplicate... but neer near-duplicate. :)05:24
Dr_willisnever.05:25
Dr_willisthat would be a nifty trick.05:25
BluesKajpixelation, amule05:25
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pixelationthere used to be windows shareware that did that, it was awesome, you could speicify 70% match, or whatever.05:25
pixelationthanks BuesKaj05:25
Dr_willisbut which one to keep.. :)05:25
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BluesKajsome of the same mp3s have been renamed but one can see by the similar ize05:26
Dr_willisit would suck if it kept the one with 30% static in the middle.05:26
BluesKajsize05:26
pixelationit even put the best quality one on top, so just delete the ones below it... told ya it was good... hrm, maybe wine.05:26
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h3sp4wnbigger is not always best quality05:26
Dr_willisthe tools people need when they collect 10000000gb of mp3's :)05:27
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pixelationyeah but it is a factor in near-duplicates.05:27
pixelationlol05:27
pixelationI'm a neat freak.05:27
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BluesKajnope , not always but if you look at the details, the bit rate is usually indicated05:28
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Raffywe05:29
daniellqalguna girl05:29
BluesKajI don't understand this wine thing...if ya wanna run windows programs use windows :)05:29
ForgeAusthat depends on the app05:30
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ForgeAussome run fine under wine05:30
ForgeAusbut yeah windows apps I'd recommend to use windows if you have it05:30
pixelationI love wine personally, and you know it's only gunna get better.05:30
Dr_willisactually the last wine i used... dident run the programs that the OLDER wine used to run...05:30
BluesKajdepends on the vintage :)05:31
Dr_willisbut that may of been just a fluke05:31
pixelationbut, I don't have windows.05:31
ForgeAusyup pixel can't wait for better win2k infrastructure in it05:31
ForgeAusif they go that way05:31
ForgeAus(or even a XP-like 98 subsystem05:31
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pixelationyeah. I just want my software to run on it. :-P05:31
ForgeAusexactly05:31
BluesKajwhat's word on Vista written programs in wine ?05:32
ForgeAusBluesKaj, I wouldn't even think about it05:32
BluesKajhehe05:32
ForgeAusway to early to consider something like that05:32
pixelationthey say it's safe to run regseeker... not anymore... it deleted my fonts and made everything unreadable.05:32
ForgeAussome may work anyway... but I wouldn't EXPECT any to05:32
ForgeAusregseeker?05:32
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pixelationyeah... but... I probably shouldn't try and clean it or anything, cause it's not windows.05:33
BluesKajwhat's the best place to put the *.exe folders in wine ?05:33
geniiWe need some virtual windoze machine to run installers and so on in and just reverse engineer what calls the dlls make and so on05:33
nihil_sumIs there a good Linux IDE for SQL, perhaps similar to Query Analyzer or SQL Management Studio on Windows?05:33
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ForgeAusI wonder if theres a way to combine cedega and cxoffice and wine into one rather than 3 windows subsystems!05:34
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nihil_sumDon't forget mono.05:34
ForgeAusmono is awesome05:34
cntbintelikey ?05:34
ForgeAus(but monodevelop needs some more work for winforms05:34
ForgeAusyou can add it but no documentation/designer05:34
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h3sp4wnNo use for mono by me05:35
cntbmigrating issue mkinitramfs anyone familiar with that ?05:35
pixelationI was watching cartoon network last night, and they showed a paragraph, I just caught the last sentence and it was "like the windoze kids" lol05:35
h3sp4wn(too slow)05:35
ForgeAuswinforms and boo should be awesome05:35
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h3sp4wncntb: migrating from what to what ?05:35
BluesKajwhat' mono , another Virtual type prog05:35
BluesKaj?05:35
ForgeAusno05:35
h3sp4wnMicrosofts .NET basically for linux I want nothing to do with it05:35
ForgeAusmono is a linux impementation of  .NET framework05:35
cntbh3sp4wn: hardware migrating05:35
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BluesKajviryual oS rather05:35
BluesKajoh05:36
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h3sp4wncntb: How does that involve mkinitramfs ?05:36
hattaand .net is microsofts implementation of ???05:36
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cntbh3sp4wn: from sda (sata ) to hda (PATA)05:36
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nihil_sumMicrosoft's own standard.05:36
ForgeAustheres another one of them from gnu (portable .NET)05:36
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cntbthat is edgy with wondows (dual booted h3sp4wn05:36
h3sp4wncntb: using uuid's and default ubuntu kernel ?05:36
hattaI've never heard a good answer to the question "what is .net and why do I want it"05:36
ForgeAus.net is microsofts implementation of a common language runtime...05:37
cntbboot stops at busy box05:37
ForgeAusalmost like a virtual machine in some ways tho05:37
cntb(initramfs) prompt h3sp4wn. know what todo in that case ?05:37
Alzi2Hey. I was just wondering, what is the option of 'be like macintosh' in KDE like? I don't want to ruin my current interface, so i can't try out. I'll maybe do it, if anyone tells me what it's like, please.05:37
h3sp4wndid you edit the boot line to change it to hda ?05:37
cntbkernel is generic05:37
geniiThe uuids in fstab cause headaches when you have to do a grub reinstall05:37
Dr_willishow about - 'why did this program install .net 1.1 and then this other program wanted 2.2 ?'05:37
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Dr_willisgenii,  :) heh heh05:37
ForgeAuslol Dr Willis thats the problem05:38
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cntbh3sp4wn: i have handy knoppix 4 and ubuntuboootable alternateCd install05:38
h3sp4wngenii: why ? grub uses hd0 type syntax05:38
ForgeAusthey don't stick with it, they keep making extras that blow out the economy of a single framework05:38
Dr_willis'why does this 6k program need 20mb of runtime stuff...'05:38
cntbh3sp4wn: pls explainq. using UUIDs ? in boot05:38
ForgeAusDr willis exactly (thats kinda the point I was trying to get at)05:38
Dr_willisand WHAT IDIOT decided on the name .net ?05:38
Dr_willisthat has to be the Worse name i can think of.05:38
ForgeAuslol05:39
Dr_willisI guess .PORN would be worse...05:39
ForgeAusor .SEX05:39
Dr_willisalmost as bad as C#05:39
ForgeAusbut I didn't say that05:39
Dr_willisjust the idea of having a . in the name....05:39
cntboh and I played editinf fstab changing sda7 to hda7 any utility to auot change sda to hda h3sp4wn ?05:39
geniih3sp4wn: I don't know why. But I helped 4 ppl with same issue. grub had to get reinstalled then it couldn't mount / til the uuid stuff in fstab got removed.05:39
ForgeAus(probably an acronym anyway lol)05:39
h3sp4wncntb: /etc/fstab should contain uuid's either that or :%s,sda,hda,g05:39
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nihil_sumIt's not why does this 6kb program need 20mb of runtime, it's this 15mb program is only 6kb because it's all in the runtime.05:39
ForgeAush3sp4wn does it HAVE to?05:40
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Dr_willisthen the installer keeps reinstalling. :)05:40
geniiDr_willis: I have to agree about C#05:40
ForgeAusI removed some of them when my fstab went a bit awry05:40
ForgeAusseems to work ok now05:40
h3sp4wngenii: ForgeAus Does what have to ?05:40
ForgeAusDrwillis under wine there is a way05:40
cntb -- /etc/fstab has lots of UUID05:40
Dr_willisbut what do i know... i rarely program.. im just always having to do tech support for these other idiots... :)05:40
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ForgeAus(I think you need to use native msi or something and a few other tweaks but it CAN work)05:40
Dr_willisI edit my fstab to mount the drives based on LABEL. :)05:40
ForgeAus(then ontop of that there was a .NET bridge for mono)05:41
h3sp4wnThat is alot more reasonable than uuid05:41
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ForgeAush3sp4wn fstab, does it have to have uuids?05:41
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nihil_sumSo anyway...  Is there a good (preferrably free)Linux SQL Server IDE out there comparable to Query Analyzer or SQL Management Studio?05:41
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ForgeAusMySql?05:41
ForgeAusI dunno much about it tho05:42
h3sp4wnForgeAus: Doesn't have to but the whole reason for having them is so if you change from hda to sda you don't need to change it05:42
ForgeAustheres also Postgres SQL05:42
nihil_sumI'm constrained to use Microsoft SQL Server 2005 unfortunately.05:42
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ForgeAuswhatever happened to PL/SQL?05:42
nihil_sumI just want a good development environment for it.05:42
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kkathmanPL/SQL = Oracle05:42
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ForgeAusnihil just use kexi and connect to the SQL database!05:42
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ForgeAusI think that works05:42
nihil_sumKexi....  thanks.  I'll get that.05:43
cntbh3sp4wn:  in starting up an alert /dev/sda7 does not exist. droping to a shell "" is issued05:43
ForgeAusKexi is part of Koffice05:43
ForgeAus(if I have the right app name)05:43
anbukutest05:43
h3sp4wncntb: because you didn't edit the bootline to /dev/hda705:43
cntbwho is responsible ? h3sp4wn? initrd ?05:43
Alzi2anyone? Where can i find the Desktop Configuration Wizard that you get on first-time boot of KDE?05:43
h3sp4wncntb: use e to the edit the bootline in grub05:43
Dr_willisFeisty Fawn - will cause SOOO much  "FUN" when it gets out...  it likes to use /dev/sd## for all the ide drives. :)05:43
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cntbh3sp4wn:  e in grub?05:44
h3sp4wncntb: that is how you edit the bootline05:44
ForgeAusoops05:44
cntbhow do i switch to manual grub h3sp4wn??>05:44
ForgeAuskexi doesn't do SQL??05:44
ForgeAusit seems... does MDB's05:44
h3sp4wncntb: I have just told you05:44
nihil_sumDoh.05:44
ForgeAushmmm05:44
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cntbe on boot time ? h3sp4wn? enough?05:45
h3sp4wnwhen you can choose what kernel you want to boot (maybe you have to press escape)05:45
ForgeAusahh yes you can connect to a MySQL server with it if you make a blank db05:45
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ForgeAusbut I can't find MS SQL server under there05:45
ForgeAusmight have plugins05:45
h3sp4wntype e and change the sda in that line to hda05:45
ForgeAuscheck it out05:45
nihil_sumThe core functionality I'm looking for is syntax highlighting, F5 execution with results coming up in a grid or formatted text, and the capability to graphically browse tables/views/users/stored procedures.05:45
cntbOK h3sp4wn good05:46
h3sp4wnthen after that is done edit the kopts line in /boot/grub/menu.lst and change it to hda also05:46
ForgeAusnihil I don't think kexi has all that05:46
h3sp4wnthen run update-grub05:46
nihil_sumI wonder if I can get the Microsoft stuff to run in wine.05:46
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cntbe shows me second line kernel containing wrong sda7 that was on previous system05:46
ForgeAusplus even if it did it'd just import stuff from the remote server rather than be an SQL server of its own05:46
ForgeAus(possibly has built in SQL like access tho)05:46
h3sp4wnso you change it e is to edit05:46
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cntbh3sp4wn: do I edit it to be saved? and where is it saved ?05:47
cntbty05:47
nihil_sumI have the server.  I don't need a server.  Just a client.05:47
ForgeAusts worth a try, sqlserver (or MDSE might work)05:47
genii!info ggobi05:47
ubotuggobi: Data visualization system for high-dimensional data. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.2-1 (edgy), package size 4887 kB, installed size 8260 kB05:47
h3sp4wnI have already told you how to change it permanently see 16:4605:47
ForgeAusgenii?05:47
nihil_sumSweet.05:47
geniiForgeAus yes?05:48
cntbh3sp4wn: that will be my first time editing grub command it is long do I write it on paper and copy  ?05:48
cntbsome easy way h3sp4wn ?05:48
dmialhello! can You tell me, how I can decide problem with "fast starting" mozilla Firefox in Kubuntu (like it decided in windoze)? I think, I will load firefox as daemon at system start, it's right?05:48
h3sp4wncntb: you just scroll with the arrow keys - there is no easier way05:48
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jhutchins_wkBecause an MSSQL database server is an SQL server, you can use any SQL front end with it.05:49
jhutchins_wkOOffice has one.05:49
jhutchins_wkThere are others.05:49
Alzi2How to reset my panels to what they once were when i first installed KDE?05:50
ForgeAusahh yes ooffice why didnt I think of that?05:51
BluesKajthe only thing I miss about windows is nero vision...it's still the best vdeo transcoder in my experience ...tovis does well, but isn't quite there yet ,.05:51
BluesKajtovid05:51
ForgeAusyou can get nero for linux05:51
ForgeAusprolly has nerovision in it05:51
BluesKajyeah , but not nerovision05:51
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BluesKajI already tried it05:52
dmialHi, people, what with firefox loading? help :-)05:52
ForgeAusyup openoffice is good (still don't see MS SQL server there... but has lots of options - ODBC might do it)05:52
dmialanybody using firefox in kubuntu?05:52
ForgeAusdmial lots of people most likely05:53
ForgeAusmyself included05:53
geniidmial http://www.kde-forum.org/archive/15835/thread.html05:53
ForgeAusmono probably has ADO.NET components too05:54
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joheyMy default gentoo package server (du.se) has turned *very* slow. Where can I find a list of other (preferrably Swedish) servers?05:54
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Alzi2How to reset my panels to what they once were when i first installed KDE?05:55
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ForgeAusum alzi you could reinstall!05:55
ForgeAusor manually reconfigure them05:55
ForgeAusI'm not sure that you can reset them05:56
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geniiWhoah just got from ubuntuforums:05:57
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genii*** ATTENTION MAINTENANCE ***05:57
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Alzi2How to reset my panels to what they once were when i first installed KDE?05:57
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jetsaredimjust installed kubuntu feisty test 3...  why are there some packages greyed out in the package manager05:57
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chavoAlzi2, try moving or deleting ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc05:58
dmialgenii thanks, but I want to load firefox on start in "hided" mode< without window opening (like in offtopic os)05:58
Alzi2thanks :)05:58
chxhi. i can't get images to print. KJobViewer says Processing.... the print led blinks, blinks forever, the printer job size is only 121 kbytes. LaserJet 6MP, with Foomatic/Postscript driver. Text printing works just fine. Oh, and Acrobat also prints fine...05:58
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chavojetsaredim, is it Adept, or Add/Remove programs?05:59
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jetsaredimchavo: add/remove05:59
ForgeAusadd/remove is also adept...05:59
caris_mereany have experience setting up a webcam?05:59
ForgeAusjust a different "mode"/part of the adept "suite"06:00
chavoyeah, with some packages greyed out06:00
ForgeAusbut why are they greyed out?06:00
ForgeAusI'd also like to know06:00
chavonot sure exactly I don't use adept anyway06:00
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chavoI think add/remove is supposed to be simpler, not showin libraries and such06:01
Aluminchavo: what are some of the grayed-out packages?06:01
geniidmial: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/faq/panel.html#id255271506:01
ForgeAusJets if you know the name of the package you can probably install it in adept using the main package manager to run it... it hasn't got the eyecandy of the add/remove view but it has searching and stuff...06:02
Aluminmaybe the grayed-out ones are the ones you already have installed?06:02
jetsaredimyea was looking for the new ldevelop package06:02
STEFBOY`brbAnybody knows how may I run remote Desktop(VNC) on my Linux????06:02
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jetsaredimare there other repos that I should be adding?06:02
ForgeAusyeah Alimin but then the "main" adept installer itself is simple enough... as long as you backstep if it tels you its going to BREAK something..06:02
STEFBOY`brbI`d like to make connection between WinXP and Kubuntu..06:03
ForgeAusSTEFBOY`brb, just download the packages for it06:03
jetsaredimI'm thinking about switching from gentoo and I really wanting the latest and greatest versions of packages06:03
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STEFBOY`brbI couldn`t find06:03
ForgeAusthere is a Terminal Services client06:03
chavoSTEFBOY`brb, run krdc06:03
STEFBOY`brbI`d like to run a VNC server on Linux06:03
STEFBOY`brbyeah but my client is windows based06:03
STEFBOY`brbi found that work only for Linux-Linux machines06:04
geniiSTEFBOY`brb:  VNC doesn't care what platforms you have at either end06:04
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STEFBOY`brbbut you have to run a application on Win06:05
STEFBOY`brbI use it ot both WinXP machines06:05
STEFBOY`brband it worked fine06:05
STEFBOY`brbnow I changed one of the machines to Kubuntu06:05
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ForgeAusthere is a terminal services client for linux06:05
STEFBOY`brband I`d like to run a VNC server there06:05
STEFBOY`brbany link ?06:05
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jhutchins_wkSTEFBOY`brb: XP runs rdesktop natively, there are clients that can access it.06:05
jetsaredimalso - where do I get the codecs and such to play dvds06:06
Dr_willistheres a  lot of vnc specifics and variants to choose from.06:06
Dr_willis!dvd06:06
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages06:06
Dr_willisdvd's dont use codecs..  they need the dvdcss stuff. :)06:06
Dr_williswell i guess that counts as a codec? sort of? not really...06:06
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jhutchins_wkDr_willis: 'course not all of them are css encrypted.06:06
geniiSTEFBOY`brb: Just install the package vncserver06:06
ubuntu_ <johny_>:i return still now from out. thanks i give a try on #kde06:07
Dr_willisjhutchins_wk,  ive got a collection of..  well i wont say... thats not encrypted.     :)06:07
ForgeAusSTEF its in the repostitories somewhere06:07
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ForgeAus(possibly under universe or multiverse)06:07
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STEFBOY`brbthanks06:07
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STEFBOY`brbI don`t have access to my server to do it now06:07
STEFBOY`brbbut I`ll have it in mind06:08
STEFBOY`brb:))06:08
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genii!info vncserver | STEFBOY'brb06:08
ubotustefboy'brb: vncserver: Virtual network computing server software. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3.7-12ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 541 kB, installed size 1244 kB06:08
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ForgeAus!info pxe06:08
ubotupxe: free PX daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.2-4 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 136 kB06:08
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STEFBOYnice service you have here06:09
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jhutchins_wkSpeaking of ubotu, somebody needs to update the KDE info an clean up the old stuff.  I think there's at least one link that still reports 3.5.4 as the latest.06:10
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ForgeAussomeone should make a kubntuflash! (LiveCD-like kubntu distro from ubuntu minimal with some KDE stuff, personally I'd go sans bluetooth... whatever packages you can get away with that fit on a 256k stick)06:10
ForgeAusgrr 256MB stick sorry06:11
jhutchins_wkForgeAus: I thought there already was one?  Mandriva has one.06:11
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ForgeAusthere are several flash-linuxes but I havn't come across kubuntu's yet if it has one06:11
ForgeAus(or ubuntu's) theres instructions how to make one06:12
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barbUnable to load the requested driver:06:13
barbUnable to create the Foomatic driver [HP-PSC_750,gutenprint] . Either that driver does not exist, or you don't have the required permissions to perform that operation.06:13
Dr_willisfire up the package manager and install the extra cups drivers  perhaps06:13
barbis the driver database broken ?06:13
ForgeAusbarb try running the application as the superuser06:13
barbForgeAus: yeah06:14
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barbDr_willis: what 'extra cups drivers' ?06:14
ForgeAusif its gui use kdesu or if its console use sudo before the commandline and run it t hat way... (will ask you for root password)06:14
barbForgeAus: i clicked admin mode06:15
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jhutchins_wkOh, that stuff's a mess.06:15
ForgeAushmmm ok then either something missing or linux is looking in the wrong place?06:15
jhutchins_wkbarb: Try doing it from cups.06:15
barbjhutchins_wk: ?06:15
Gala!paste06:15
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)06:15
Dr_willisbarb,  for some printers i had.. thee was some extra cups drivers packages not installed by default i recall installing a year or so ago.06:15
jhutchins_wklocalhost:631 will give you the cups management app.06:16
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robertpolsonNew version of Beryl !06:16
robertpolsonhttp://lunapark6.com/?p=291606:16
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Dr_willisHP-PSC  is a all-in-one-printer-scanner ?06:16
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barbyes06:16
jhutchins_wkbarb: the kubuntu printer config utilities has horrible problems with permission errors and such.  I've had to bypass it to get anything working.06:16
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Dr_willisI recall having to install some hpoj service also for mine.. i got a 1200v all in 1.. but aint used it in ages..06:17
barbjhutchins_wk: ok trying now.06:17
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igorv2hi06:17
BluesKajbah humbug, eye candy that looks good but does nothing else except slow things down :)06:17
Dr_williswe need a Console/Text based Front end! :)06:18
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Dr_willisthen play the videos with that AALIB stuff in full ascii-animation goodness06:18
BluesKajI tried beryl, it's like barbie and ken dolls ,nice to look at but useless otherwide :)\06:19
jetsaredimok - totally not getting this06:19
BluesKajotherwise06:19
jetsaredimI thought that feisty was supposed to have all the non-open stuff in it already06:19
Dr_willisBluesKaj,  looks good... but then you reaize the 'good bits' are missing.06:19
Dr_willisjetsaredim,  i thought it had some scripts to install some of it..06:20
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BluesKajyeah  Dr_willis, there is a definite wow factor , but it wears pretty thin very quickly06:20
jhutchins_wkPossibly the third-party repos like PLF haven't bothered to start porting stuff to feisty while edgy is still unstable.06:20
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barbwhat's the differance in  localhost:631  and  print:/  in konqueror ?06:21
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h3sp4wnjetsaredim: It would never have w32codecs for example06:23
jetsaredimso where do I get those things??06:23
jetsaredimlike dvd playback and such thing06:23
jhutchins_wkbarb: print:/ is using the kde stuff, localhost:631 should be using the cups html interface.06:23
jhutchins_wk!restricted06:23
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:23
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h3sp4wnjetsaredim: legally the only place is from a copy of windows you own06:23
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barbjhutchins_wk: what's the location of a usb printer ?06:24
jhutchins_wkjetsaredim: I would say go with the dapper/edgy procedures and experiment with substituting feisty.06:24
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Jaxxhey all06:24
Galaguys but in Linux Kubuntu... can I Install game... World of Warcraft for example?06:24
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jhutchins_wkbarb: Dunno, let me see if I can figure it out.06:25
jacksondoes any know a way i can configure ktorrent to be the default client for torrent files? thx06:25
Dr_willisGala,  to run windows software/games like that you will want to use wine, or cedega to run them06:25
Dr_willisGala,  and DONT expect it to work flawlessly... :)06:25
Galalol understood...06:25
barblsusb06:25
barbBus 001 Device 002: ID 03f0:1411 Hewlett-Packard06:25
barbdoes that help ?06:25
Dr_willisGala,  if you are really hard core about it - i advise paying for the CEDEGA stuff.. its only like $5 a mo.06:25
chavowow is supposed to work with wine06:26
Dr_willissupposed to. :)06:26
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Gala:D06:26
chavonever tried it myself06:26
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JaxxGala i tried world of warcraft in linux06:26
Dr_willisfrom what i noticed last i tried wow+cedega - every new update to WOW broke somthing.. then cedega had to have a update soon afterwards06:26
Galawork?06:26
JaxxGala try with wine it works perfectly06:26
Jaxxyup06:26
Jaxxhttp://www.winehq.org/06:26
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Galathx u06:27
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Jaxxwine can emulate the game very well06:27
barbanyone know what to enter in the "location" field of cups add printer ?06:27
chavoyou can apt-get install wine also06:27
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h3sp4wnapparantly cross over office also supports wow (and when they say something is supported it is of higher quality than cedega)06:27
Dr_willisthe use of 'wine' and 'works perfectly' --  in the same sentance.. :) *shudder*06:27
Galaok i use apt get so06:27
Jaxxgala yes... chavo is right06:27
Dr_willisof course i do recall a 'rumor' that the WOW guys considered using Cedega/wine to be 'cheating' :)06:27
Dr_willisbut i was never able to find any other information on that06:28
arditxohi, anyone knows where to set the JAVA_HOME and PLUGIN_HOME variables?06:28
Jaxx:)06:28
Galalol06:28
Dr_willisarditxo,  why do you need to set them?06:28
jhutchins_wkbarb: usb:/dev/device#06:28
jhutchins_wkbarb you can find that in console using lsusb06:28
arditxobecause I'm still trying to configure my java1.5 installation06:28
barbscroll up06:29
Dr_willisarditxo,  how did you install it? ive never had to manually set those things to get java working06:29
arditxoI executed the java1.5xxx.bin file06:29
Dr_willis!java06:29
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository06:29
Dr_willisyou can just apt-get install java now a days06:29
Dr_willisunless thers somthing special ya need...06:29
cntbwas on TV with family back to ubuntu now06:29
Galadownloading wine06:29
cntbh3sp4wn:  ?06:30
Dr_willis*hic*06:30
arditxoyah I've already read those steps06:30
jhutchins_wkbarb: Getting anywhere?06:30
arditxobut I cannot get it working06:30
jhutchins_wkbarb: http://uw714doc.sco.com/en/PR_admin/cups-start.html06:30
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barbmaybe.   is usb:/dev/002  right for the location ?06:30
jhutchins_wkbarb: Unfortunately, their link to "Printing:USB Support" is broken.06:30
jhutchins_wkbarb: Should be.06:31
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barbok06:31
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Igor_V2hi06:31
Galaguys for the resolution... i need to download driver of ati or reconfigure xorg.conf?06:31
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arditxoyeh I see, but I specifically need the 1.5 version, not the latest one (1.6)06:32
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slyfoxNeed help - when I choose seesion type and Console - the only thing I get is a black screen. I tried to press cntrl+alt+F1 and nothing happens. I also tried this from my normal session: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop   and I again get a balck screen, cntrl+alt+F1 does nothing. The only thing that works on that balck screen is CTRL+ALT+Delete to estart my laptop. That is it. Help.06:32
Jaxxany romanians in here?06:32
Dr_willis!find java06:32
ubotuFound: gcj, gcj-4.1, gij, gij-4.1, java-common (and 248 others)06:32
arditxoand so, using the sources I can only get the 1.606:32
Dr_willisarditxo,  last i looked there was 2 packatges one for 1.5 one for 1.606:32
cntb!find migrate06:32
Galawhat do u say about?06:33
barbooops   "you need to supply a username and passwd too access this site 'cups at locaalhost'"  ?06:33
ubotuFile migrate found in xen-utils-3.006:33
barbwhat's that asking for ?06:33
Dr_willissun-j2re1.5 - Java(TM) 2 RE, Standard Edition, Sun Microsystems(TM)06:33
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barbjhutchins_wk: what's that asking for ?06:34
arditxowell I have already looked it in my synaptic06:34
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Dr_willisyou did enable all the extra repositories?06:34
arditxoand I only get the 1.6 , what am I doing wrong06:34
jhutchins_wk!cups06:34
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows06:34
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jhutchins_wkbarb: Shoot, I don't remember that.06:35
Dr_willisive gotten so many extra things in the repos... i dont know what im getting from where.06:35
jhutchins_wkbarb: It's in the ubuntu docs though, on one of the sites.06:35
sbeehi anyone can help me.. my pc hang after i type dpkg --configure -a06:35
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arditxo:)06:36
barb don't know what user name it's asking for ?06:36
Galaguys i've apt-get install wine ... now how can i do ?06:36
cntbOK stopped and edited on boot grub commands. where do I save new commands?06:36
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sean_Hi all - quick question, whats the most popular IRC client ? Currently using Konversation (only installed Linux 2 days ago..), seems to do the job ok, just wondered if I was missing out on anything cool and spangly :P06:37
h3sp4wnsean_: irssi06:37
jhutchins_wkbarb: I don't remember myself, I think you may need to set it up.  This is part of why the kde interface doesn't work for setting up printers.06:37
sean_h3sp4wn: I'll take a look @ that thanks.06:37
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cntbnope sean_06:37
sbee:(06:38
BluesKajhehe, he wants eye candy h3sp4wn :)06:38
cntbirssi ok xchat OK sean_06:38
arditxoone more question: why do I need to type "./" in order to execute the java file?06:38
sean_:)06:38
h3sp4wnBluesKaj: He said what is the most used06:38
sean_irssi - is that console based ? :P06:38
cntbgaim is a nice idea too06:38
HymnToLifearditxo, because it is not in your $PATH06:38
jhutchins_wkbarb: Sorry, no help in the bot links.06:38
arditxo(javapath/  ./java)06:38
BluesKajirssi is a terminal program06:38
sean_lol06:38
cntbGAIM  = all IM in one06:38
barbok thanks jhutchins_wk06:38
arditxoaham06:38
sean_ahh I heard about GAIM also06:39
Gala!wine06:39
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.06:39
HymnToLifecntb, Kopete = same thing but with a K in it :p06:39
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HymnToLifeand it's gaim or Gaim, _not_ GAIM06:39
jhutchins_wkbarb: this may help06:39
sean_I dont really wanna terminal program tbh..... if I had an IBM PS\2 with a tiny hard drive it would make sense :P06:39
cntbsean_ HymnToLife right kopete is the kde answer to GAim06:39
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jhutchins_wkbarb sorry, this: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/10/13/enabling-cupsys-web-admin-interface/06:40
BluesKajh3sp4wn, somehow i doubt irssi is the most used , even in linux06:40
barblooking06:40
cntbso sean_ konversation kopete xchat gaim irssi06:40
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HymnToLifesean_, sorry to disappint you but I'm using terminal programs on an Athlon 6406:40
sean_cntb: thanks very much06:40
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sean_HymnToLife:  :-) hey I'm not knocking it.. everyone to their own, just not for me06:41
h3sp4wnBluesKaj: Maybe not in this channel - but against most linux I would say yes (most people I know use it)06:41
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BluesKajkonversation is prolly the easiest if yer used to windows clients like mirc06:41
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hattaanyone who knows what they're doing uses irssi06:41
HymnToLifeBluesKaj, there is xchat for Windows too06:41
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HymnToLifedamn, I'm sick of those "anyone who knows uses foobar"06:42
HymnToLifeI think I know what I'm doing and I'm using xchat...06:42
angasulehatta: really? I thought snobs and elitists used irssi06:42
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BluesKajhatt yer a linux purist , that doesn't mean someone who doesn't use irssi isn't knowledgeable06:42
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hattathem too06:42
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sean_I'm knowledgeable - just not on Linux yet. I'm a windows guy, but I am very interested in learning Linux now.06:43
jhutchins_wkbarb: Ok, I've been down this path before, just didn't remember the steps.06:43
jhutchins_wkbarb: The problem is that the cupsys user (the one cups runs as) doens't have access to the shadow password file.06:44
cntbsean_ give us a hug06:44
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cntbAnomymous LINUX addicts06:44
jhutchins_wkbarb: After adding usr cupsys to the shadow group and restarting cups, you should be able to use your own username and password.06:44
cntbanonimous06:44
h3sp4wnanonimouse06:44
sean_lool06:44
cntbor is it anonymous ?06:45
jhutchins_wkIf anybody knows a ubuntu developer, please kick them and ask them to FIX THE PRINTER INTERFACE AND CUPS PASSWORD PROBLEM.06:45
sean_anonymous06:45
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h3sp4wncntb: the later06:45
cntblatter06:45
cntbmost of us write Internetish06:45
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jhutchins_wka=negative no=known nym=name ous=having this charictaristic.06:45
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n8k99jhutchins_wk you could leave a bugreport on launchpad06:46
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jhutchins_wkn8k99: You think 657,000 hits on google doesn't give anybody a clue?06:46
jhutchins_wkn8k99: I believe I did file a BR though.06:46
n8k99good06:47
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cntbhow do I repair X ? dpkg-reconfigure Xserver ?06:47
cntb!xserver06:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:47
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jhutchins_wkI tell ya, not being able to set up printers is a real deal killer for the average user.06:48
cntb!find xserver06:48
ubotuFound: xserver-xorg-input-elographics, xserver-xorg-input-evdev, xserver-xorg-input-kbd, xserver-xorg-input-mouse, xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (and 79 others)06:48
cntbwhat a lag ?06:48
cntb!find xserver-xorg06:49
ubotuFound: xserver-xorg-input-elographics, xserver-xorg-input-evdev, xserver-xorg-input-kbd, xserver-xorg-input-mouse, xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (and 72 others)06:49
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arditxook thx all06:49
arditxobye06:49
BluesKajsean, i'm also a windows who eventually saw the error of my ways but being linux cli freak doesn't make ppl superior in any way , they just have a different computing experience than others , and be judged on linux purist cli terms is totally a childish POV.06:49
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alessandro_i have audio problem i can hear sound but only on one side any suggestion?06:49
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sasoynai was ubuntu.So johny_ are you still there?06:50
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Galago go rock lee06:51
sasoynawho speak me to type kdestart? that's no twork06:51
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BluesKajstartkde, sasoyna06:52
sasoyna** no twork=not work06:52
barball i can get is  authentication fails    using root with root's passwd06:52
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BluesKajtype startkde , not kdestart06:52
sasoyna < BluesKaj>:i try tnks06:52
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jhutchins_wkbarb: Did you add cupsys to shaddow and restart cups?06:54
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barb401 Unauthorized06:55
barbEnter your username and password or the root username and password to access this page.06:56
barbjhutchins_wk: yes06:56
barbthat got rid of the dialog asking for a username and passwd.06:56
barbbut now it goes streight to that page ^06:56
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cntbBluesKaj:  explain childish POV pls !06:57
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GalaZif I've a file .rar... how can i open it?06:57
barbthe line that reads "Enter your username and password or the root username and password to access this page."   is on the page after the  401 error      there is no  place to enter any authentication.06:58
LjL!rar > GalaZ    (GalaZ, see the private message from Ubotu)06:58
jhutchins_wkbarb: I dunno, try regular username & password instead.06:59
LjL!upgrade > LjL    (LjL, see the private message from Ubotu)06:59
barbhow it doesn't ask for a user anymore ?07:00
cntbLjL in migration managed to  login cli with errors how do I clean fstab ? specifically kill UUIDs and chg sda7 to hda7 ?07:00
barbit just says auth failed.07:00
jhutchins_wkOh, close the browser, it's cached it.07:00
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barboh07:00
barbheh07:00
LjLcntb... parse error on line one :o)07:00
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BluesKajcntb , the idea that using a cli interface like irssi is somehow superior to using a gui client07:00
cntbIOW in migtration to different hardware howto reconstruct fstab ?07:01
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LjL!blkid | cntb07:01
ubotucntb: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)07:01
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LjLbut actually, the UUIDs should remain the same, if the partitions are the same07:01
cntbtyvm LjL07:01
LjLeven if the hardware is different07:01
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cntbsame layout LjL07:01
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cntbarenot UUIDs taken from hardware?07:02
LjLno07:02
LjLcntb: depends on how you duplicated the partitions - if you *cloned* them, the UUIDs should remain the same. if you just copy the files, they'll probably change07:02
barbnope auth fails for user also07:02
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cntbacronis copied a SATA to hda  80gb sata to 80gb PATA07:02
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cntbtrue copy07:03
cntbwindows works OK07:03
barbjhutchins_wk: auth fails for user also07:03
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cntbOK07:03
cntbso how do I convert blkid to fstab ?vi ?07:04
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cntbpipe > LjL ?07:04
LjLcntb: any editor, yeah07:04
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jhutchins_wkbarb: I'm really sorry, this must be quite frustrating.  Let me see what I can find, I know there's a way around it.07:05
cntbtrying to save typing is """ blkid > fstab-buildfrom-here "" a good idea ?07:05
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ozziusssiema07:05
LjLcntb: no07:06
ozziusscould somebody tell mi what is IRC? for what can I use it?07:07
cntbLjL: what better idea?07:07
LjLcntb: doing it manually07:07
LjLthe "blkid" format isn't fstab format07:07
cntbLjL:  trying to build a routine of producing dual boot PCs07:07
LjLozziuss: you're using it right now, for chatting.07:07
LjLcntb: then a script07:08
cntbOK but must think where and how to save work  LjL ;-)07:08
jhutchins_wkbarb: Hang in there, gathering clues.07:08
ozziussLjL: IRC is only a chat client?07:08
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LjLozziuss: IRC is a protocol. the client is Konversation or X-Chat or whatever.07:08
LjLright now, you're on the Freenode network of IRC servers.07:08
LjLand yes it's chat07:08
LjLcntb: let me see, blkid has some useful options for formatting07:09
cntbmaybe to the point  I am reading scripts but not making myself LjL07:09
barbi'm going to say it's a permissions problem.   what files/dirs are we talking about here ?07:09
ozziussaaa...i understand now07:09
h3sp4wnozziuss: people abuse it for other purposes (i.e warez)07:09
cntbLjL: Ok ty will man blkid07:09
LjLcntb: well, a problem i can see is: how could you ever match partitions automatically? i.e. how to know that a given partition is / and not /home?07:10
LjLi think that, save some very clever magic that's probably not really worth doing, that would have to be done manually07:10
jhutchins_wkbarb: sudo vi /etc/group, find lpadmin - are you a member?07:10
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jhutchins_wk(You can use whatever user management tool you prefer, I'm a CLI guy)07:11
cntbmaybe right LjL07:11
LjLjust type "groups" to see which groups you belong to07:11
ozziusscan somebody help me? i can't open phpmyadmin in kubuntu. i installed it using sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin07:11
cntbtyvm07:11
LjLcntb: blkid can search by partition label. if your partitions have meaningful labels, you could use that. but i don't know many people who actually do use labels...07:12
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cntbLjL: now on CLI only without X without network07:14
cntbwhat do I do if I need su . which does not work07:14
cntbLjL: sudo suficces even now?07:14
h3sp4wnsudo -i07:14
jhutchins_wkShoot, we lost one.07:14
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cntbLjL: in windows I do use labels all the time07:15
cntbtyvm for the idea07:15
cntbtvm h3sp4wn07:15
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jhutchins_wkFinally found the page that ACTUALLY EXPLAINS how to make cups work, add the username to group lpadmin, and add cupsys to group shadow.07:16
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cntbhow do I label a blkdevice in CLI ?07:17
cntbI know my root is /dev/hda707:17
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LjLcntb: tune2fs -L, for ext3 filesystems07:17
LjLwell actually, e2label even07:17
cntbty07:18
cntbOK e2label helped me07:18
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Aluminhmm...I'm not sure if this is a distro question, a Konsole question, or a screen question (perhaps a terminfo question?), but uh07:20
cntbanybody knows how to import file in "vi editor " ? sorry for lazyness or lack of CLI skills07:20
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Aluminok, so if I run Konsole and then run screen with a bunch of ssh sessions attached, my backspace key doesn't work (the terminal just beeps when I press it)07:20
LjLcntb: no, i don't, but perhaps you might want to have mouse support for copy and paste07:21
LjL!gpm07:21
jhutchins_wkcntb: :r <file>07:21
ubotugpm: General Purpose Mouse Interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.19.6-22ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 202 kB, installed size 500 kB07:21
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Aluminhowever, if I attach to the same screen session with xterm, it works07:21
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Alumingpm is in universe?  wow07:21
jhutchins_wkAlumin: Try "reset".07:22
LjLwell it's not like ubuntu gives much emphasis to the VT interface...07:22
cntbjhutchins_wk: you made me advance fast tyvm07:22
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jhutchins_wkAlumin: I think GPM predates the universal GNU license.07:22
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AluminLjL: true, but I thought inclusion in main predicated on licensing issues rather than "focus"?07:23
LjLjhutchins_wk: shouldn't matter, the decision of putting something in universe vs main isn't license dictated07:23
LjLAlumin: no07:23
Aluminit isn't?07:23
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h3sp4wnI hate nano - like vim - probably should learn emacs one of these days07:23
AluminI'm used to Debian I guess07:23
LjLmain *and* universe are free software / restricted *and* multiverse are non-free (or depend on non-free)07:23
LjLotoh07:23
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LjLmain *and* restricted are maintained by the core developers / universe *and* multiverse are maintained by the community07:24
LjLthese are the difference07:24
Aluminah, ok07:24
cntbmain is the most necessary universe is extra07:24
LjLmain=coredevs,free - universe=community,free - restricted=coredevs,nonfree - multiverse=community,nonfree07:24
slyfoxI have a problem, you know how in KDE all the icons are in tray packed small and organized? Now they are in one big straight line, how do I fix it?07:24
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Aluminslyfox: perhaps you need to make your panel larger?07:25
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caris_merecould somebody help me with webcam setup?07:27
jagerhow can i get amarok to use projectm?07:27
Aluminslyfox: sometimes it's just a couple of pixels' worth of height that makes the difference07:27
jagerubuntu doesn't seem to have proojectm in the repositories :(07:27
johny_is this possible to acces the recycle bin by shell?07:28
jageri installed some debian packages and it works fine in xmms but amarok doesn't see xmms plugins :(07:28
dwidmannslyfox, if you're talking about the icons in the system tray, I do recall KDE 3.5.2 having them in multiple rows, and previous/later versions having them in a single row.07:28
LjL!webcam07:29
ubotuwebcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras07:29
cntbcan parted update fstab ?07:29
jhutchins_wkDoesn't firefox have an editor function?07:29
slyfoxdwidmann: no a few minutes ago I had them in multiple rows, and now it is one long line07:29
dwidmannjhutchins_wk, I don't think so, I think seamonkey does though.07:30
cntbdf -h does not show /dev/hda1 which is windows . why ?07:30
hattacntb, is it mounted?07:30
dwidmannslyfox, hmmm, did you alter the size of the tray?07:30
dwidmanncntb: is /dev/hda1 mounted?07:31
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caris_mereLjL: I've been there, but I still can't get it working, not really sure about all that07:31
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albertgHi.. i need some help07:32
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LjLcaris_mere: i'm not sure i can help you very much, my cam just worked out of the box. what are you stuck on anyway?07:32
slyfoxdwidmann: I did install beryl and it happened07:32
slyfoxdwidmann: how can I alter the size again ?07:32
dwidmannright click -> configure panel07:32
dwidmannabout 2/3 of the way down07:33
caris_mereLjL: It's plugged in, but doesn't do anything, I just don't know what to do07:33
albertgHi.. i need some help!!! plz...07:33
LjLcaris_mere: well i suppose you should install something like Camorama, as the page suggests, to see if the webcam is working?07:33
LjL!camorama07:33
ubotucamorama: gnome2 tool to view, alter and save images from a webcam. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.18-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 190 kB, installed size 1376 kB07:33
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caris_mereLjL: I installed the camorama, but it says that it can't connect to the video device07:34
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LjLcaris_mere: then it's just not working, which webcam is it? actually, what does  lsusb  in a console say?07:34
slyfoxdwidmann: which section ?07:35
ubuntui am french and you ?07:36
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dwidmannslyfox: should be a dropdown for the size, "tiny,normal,large,custom" or something like that07:36
BluesKaj!fr07:36
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.07:36
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caris_mereLjL: it says, Logitech, Inc. in the lsusb, and it is a Logitech QuickCam Communicate STX Plus07:37
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slyfoxdwidmann: man, cant find it. Which section. ?07:38
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dwidmannone sec slyfox07:40
DanzikQuick question...07:40
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jhutchins_wkCan't somebody put some warnings on the beryl packages?07:40
DanzikHow do I install this screensaver?  (Never installed anything in Linux before)07:41
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jhutchins_wkWARNING!!! ALPHA SOFTWARE!!! THIS WILL BREAK YOUR SYSTEM!!!07:41
slyfoxjhutchins_wk: but it looks so appealing07:41
slyfoxjhutchins_wk: http://lunapark6.com/?p=291607:41
DanzikAny thoughts on the screensaver install?07:42
jhutchins_wkDanzik: apt-get install thisscreensaver07:42
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dwidmannslyfox: http://images.xnowherex.net/size.png - the third frame, labelled size07:43
jhutchins_wkDanzik: Because nobody has a clue what you mean by "this screensaver", nobody's answering.07:43
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LjLcaris_mere: not sure, try rebooting with the webcam already in the port if you haven't07:43
Danzikhmm07:43
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dwidmannbest screensaver set I've seen was rss-glx ...07:44
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caris_mereLjL: I have done that.  I looked under my devices and it says the device is Unknown, guess I will try to take it back and find one that doesn't have these problems07:44
slyfoxdwidmann: this changes the size of the whole pannel, I just need the System Tray icons to be grouped into 2 lines, not one long line.07:44
LjLcaris_mere: try one that's listed in the compatibility list if you can find it...07:45
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caris_mereLjL: I will, thanks07:45
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infuhello07:46
crovHi, i am having problem with Booting Kubuntu i got this screen error and it stop booting... http://img102.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00260dd0.jpg07:46
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dwidmannslyfox ... can't recall how to do it if it can be done :\07:46
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slyfoxcrov: Is that a live cd boot ?07:47
dwidmannslyfox, well, I do know a way, it just may not be what you want07:47
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slyfoxdwidmann: I just want a simpel way :-(07:47
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JaxxWhere can I find location of kubuntu firewall?07:48
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dwidmannslyfox: , well, what I was thinking is, seperate it into two panels (or perhaps even three, if it lets you overlap them)07:48
dwidmanntwo wouldn't really fly unless you had a transparent panel background ..07:48
crovslyfox kubuntu-6.10-dvd-i386.iso07:49
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cntbbk here07:52
cntbdwidmann /dev/hda1 not mounted not shown in blkid07:52
cntbscenario is migrating from sata to pata after acronis ghost or other imaging07:53
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cntbBTW is there any unix utility for imaging like acronis or ghost ?07:54
slyfoxcrov: you proabbly had what I had, go to your bios settings and choose AGP = 4x07:54
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slyfoxcrov: hold on07:54
cntbimaging seems like a tough job07:54
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hattacntb, dd or rsync depending on your needs07:55
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fdovingcntb: partimage, mondorescue.07:56
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crovslyfox but i am not using agp, i am using PCIE for my vga07:57
cntbtyvm fdoving hatta which one is CLI which is GUI ?07:57
slyfoxcrov: read this https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=928407:58
dwidmannpartimage is a text mode interface if I remember right07:58
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slyfoxcrov: what I did was " Alternatively change the AGP speed from 8x to 4x in the BIOS"07:58
slyfoxcrov: then once installed "07:58
slyfoxit also work if you set up AGP 8x in the BIOS and use Option "AGPMode" "8"07:58
slyfoxin xorg.conf?07:58
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slyfoxcrov: then once installed, add Option "AGPMode" "8"  in xorg.conf  and then set the agp back to 8x in bios07:59
slyfoxcrov: No idea for pci07:59
slyfoxcrov: look into yoru bios07:59
crovyea if you have AGP as VGA07:59
cntbI think  as of today many community users have Broadband so there must be as many local mirrors of linux iinstall as possible07:59
crovbut i can try to edit xorg and disable nano and disable the module "dri"08:00
cntbi myself found a script to buid the mirror and am starting to build local mirror08:00
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cntbconsider this link http://blog.entner.net/2006/08/16/make-ubuntu-dvds-including-everything/ for local mirror08:01
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slyfoxdwidmann: did it, either set the pannel size to large and to make it a bit smaller - custom - 48pixels08:01
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cntbthis link or similar should be introduced in  ubotu IMHO08:02
cntbhttp://blog.entner.net/2006/08/16/make-ubuntu-dvds-including-everything/08:02
cntb!dvds08:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dvds - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:02
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cntb!find dvds08:02
ubotuPackage/file dvds does not exist in edgy08:02
cntbmy lag is 20 s08:03
dwidmann!libdvdcss208:03
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages08:03
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cntbnope dwidmann . issue is http://blog.entner.net/2006/08/16/make-ubuntu-dvds-including-everything/08:03
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LjL!dvd08:03
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cntbwho is editing ubotu ?08:04
yuraHaving problem with samba share. Can anyone help me?08:04
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BluesKajok yura , what's the prob/08:04
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Jaxxwhere can I setup FIREWALL IN KUBUNTU?08:05
Jaxx!firewall08:06
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).08:06
yuraWhen I'm opening any openoffice document from samba share, the OpenOffice is asking login and password for this share08:06
BluesKaj!firewall08:06
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BluesKajoops08:06
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yurais't asking login and pass only one time per session08:07
cntbJaxx:  you most prolly are looking for a GUI tuning of firewall ?08:07
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dettoaltrimentiare there any pre-made templates for openoffice's spreadsheet program?08:07
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BluesKajso you have permission to open the docs, yura ?08:08
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yuraDon't know. How can check if I have any "pre-made templates"?08:09
yurayes, I have premissions08:09
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yuraany other file type isn't asking any password08:10
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BluesKajsorry dunno much about O.O08:10
yuraonly open office types08:10
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cntbwhen a line in fstab starts with # and whne not ?08:10
BluesKajthen the O.O files are prolly pw protected by someone else, yura08:11
yurano they aren't08:11
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BluesKajdo they open if you use the pw?08:12
yuraWhen I'm creating network folder link in Gnome there no such problem08:12
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BluesKajhave you setup the share applet on the folders ?08:12
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BluesKajin my experience setting up the share requires the password just once on new folders08:13
Shak1NEW08:13
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coreirehi, i've just booted kubuntu from dvd to see if it works with all my hardware. My resolution is set at 1024x768, i'm trying to change the res to 1366x768 which is the native res of my screen but the max option is 1024x768. How can i change the res? Thanks08:15
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juano__coreire: edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:16
coreireand i can do this while running from live cd? or will i have to install to hard drive?08:17
juano__coreire: ahh you mean the resolution inside livecd08:17
coreireyup08:17
juano__coreire: well yeah try what i told you08:18
coreireok, will try it now, thanks.08:18
juano__coreire: then put your resolution next to the others , save the file and ctrl + alt + backspace08:18
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coreirejuano__: It says i don't have write access, any other way i can do this?08:24
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juano__coreire: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:25
wilmani need a plugin for protected cd's08:25
wilmanmusic cd's08:25
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juano__coreire: you need to edit it as root08:26
juano__coreire: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:26
dwidmannwilman: I've never seen anything k3b couldn't handle08:26
cntb!log08:26
ubotuChannel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs08:26
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voicuhi, does anyone know an ide for C++ that works like BorlandC for DOS? i'm talking about the fact that it does compile+asm+link+run at once. preferably console too.08:27
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voicui'm sick of compiling and running in a separate console each time i do a change in the source08:28
cntbwhere in ubuntu is the logging of boot process?08:28
cntbfsck died with exit status 1 . gogle it ?08:30
coreirejuano__: I am getting a "Failed to Open Device" in the terminal window now when i try to save. Screw it I'll just do the install and sort it out then. Thanks for your help08:30
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johny_hey guys. I just wanted to disable "composite" in my xorg.conf file but after the computer restarts its doesn't load the x server and give me this mesagge "Parse error on line 161 of sections extensions in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf"08:30
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coreire1 more uestion, how do i start the installation from the live cd?08:31
johny_that's my xorg.conf ---> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4325/08:32
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juano__coreire: double click the install icon on the desktop08:32
Tm_T!universe08:32
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu08:32
coreirelol thanks, i should have noticed that08:32
attilaHi! Adept says that another process is using the packaging system database, but I can't see anything running. How can I stop processes runing in the background?08:33
juano__coreire: lol, :-) no problem08:33
johny_!xserver08:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:33
johny_!x1108:33
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:33
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BluesKajjohny , check here for the proper wording of the xorg.conf , scroll about halfway down to see the proper text , it's under the heading: " Disable Composite extension" ; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-c966b2cb7c82944d6883f27a2896725db3b90a3a08:36
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GalaZhave anyone installed world of warcraft on kubuntu?08:38
slyfoxWhy cant I unrar RAR files? "The utility unrar is not in your PATH."  ???08:39
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ben_msudo apt-get install unrar08:40
GalaZhave anyone installed world of warcraft on kubuntu?08:40
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slyfoxben_m: thanks08:40
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ccp_hello08:44
johny_hey guys. I just wanted to disable "composite" in my xorg.conf file but after the computer restarts its doesn't load the x server and give me this mesagge "Parse error on line 161 of sections extensions in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf"08:45
johny_that's my xorg.conf ---> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4325/08:45
ccp_hello, is this the ubuntu chat?08:45
johny_ccp: it's a IRC channel not a chat -;)08:46
johny_the ubuntu's one is #ubuntu08:46
ccp_I want the Jono Bacon chat08:47
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johny_ccp_: what's that?08:48
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matt35lu08:48
nagyvccp_: it can happen that you are searching for #ubuntu-offtopic08:48
BluesKajjohny_, din't you read my message , above ?08:48
johny_BluesKaj: no, were there any messages?08:49
BluesKajjohny , check here for the proper wording of the xorg.conf , scroll about halfway down to see the proper text , it's under the heading: " Disable Composite extension" ; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-c966b2cb7c82944d6883f27a2896725db3b90a3a08:49
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johny_BluesKaj: Thanks man08:49
BluesKajnp08:50
Lam_what's the best audio tagging program?08:50
GalaZAmarok ftw08:50
BluesKajyup08:50
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ubuntuhi there...08:52
ccp_now, there is an chat with Jono Bacon about the future of ubuntu and Linux general in the irc of ubuntu08:53
ubuntuis there any easy way of having dual monitors in Kubuntu?08:53
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johny_ccp_: I didn't know about that, where?08:53
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MikeBeechamCan anyone help?  Is there any easy way to configure dual monitors in Kubuntu?08:54
voicuis there another to trace the package route other than ping -R?08:54
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johny_!traceroute| voicu08:54
ubotuvoicu: traceroute: traces the route taken by packets over a TCP/IP network. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4a12-20 (edgy), package size 21 kB, installed size 104 kB08:54
MikeBeechamHi...can anyone help with a dual-monitor setup?08:55
voicuaham08:55
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voicuwhy would they make that one optional?08:55
ccp_I didn't know, in the ubuntu chat, for the all world08:56
HymnToLifevoicu, maybe because a sytem can very well run without it ?08:56
MikeBeechamcan anyone hear me? :(08:56
HymnToLifeMikeBeecham, no08:56
MikeBeecham:( :D08:57
HymnToLifebut we can read you :p08:57
boerjeslhey, a quick simple question. I've installed kubuntu 6.10. I remember there was an easy tool to monitor bandwidth in an earlier ubuntu/kubuntu, but I can't find the software. any suggestions? even a simple commandline software would do08:57
MikeBeechamdoes anyopne know how to set up dual monitors in Kubuntu?08:57
voicuit's 104kB large and sometimes useful...08:57
johny_ccp_: here #ubuntu08:57
johny_boerjesl: is you're using KDE superkaramba's applet could be good..08:58
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ccp_escuse me but my english it's very08:59
johny_ccp_: can't see any disccusiuion08:59
voicuMikeBeecham: i managed that with a matrox g450, maybe it is similar to your case08:59
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voicuMikeBeecham: i can send you my xorg.conf file08:59
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boerjeslnevermind i googled up vnstat09:01
ccp_ok, bye bye, thanks for all09:01
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Menahi friends09:02
captain_flamhello09:02
Menawhat would happnend if i was updating but the net stoppend then make update for again is that woyld make conflects09:03
captain_flamI have some trouble to make sound working on my brand new edgy eft.09:03
Shak1NEW09:03
Menafor>>>>From*09:03
barbhello i've been having all kinds of trubble setting up a usb printer.   first there was an authentication problem.  i think i have that solved but now nothing can find the printer.  i've tried everything i can think of, encluding reboot.   any help?09:03
captain_flamI'm runing kubuntu, and nothing works in the "sound system" menu in the KDE control center.09:03
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captain_flamtest sound gives nothing09:03
attiladoes anybody know how to kill processes using the using the packaging system database? I can't use adept 'cause another process using it09:04
bman_I need help with installing java.09:04
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bman_!java09:04
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository09:04
captain_flamEven with KDE (and KDM) down, I can't use mpg123.09:04
barball printer manager apps saw it jusst fine while ago.   now nothinng sees it.  except lsusb09:04
bman_Help plz.09:05
barbattila: sudo fuser -k /var/lib/dpkg/lock09:06
captain_flamattila: try lsof /var/lib/dpkg/status09:06
captain_flamhum, attila forget what I said then. barb solution is better.09:06
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captain_flamAny hint of what I can do for my sound server ?09:07
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captain_flamI already used alsamixer to unmute everything.09:07
captain_flamAnd it seems that there is no alsaconf on ubuntu.09:08
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bman_UGH09:09
bman_HELP09:09
jordo23Is there a way I can watch quicktime encoded video in Linux/Kubuntu?09:10
bman_kubuntu is tough.09:10
The_Machinehey guys, all of the "pop up" dialog boxes that normally prompt me for information are not appearing unless I click on the application itself.  Can someone tell me how to fix this?09:10
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shadowhywindhay how does one change the ndiswrapper network device from say eth1 to wlan009:14
Shak1jordo23 search for automatix and install the codecs package : i think the codec is somewhere in there because i installed it and am able to play quicktime movies09:17
attilacaptain_flam: it did not solve my problem (neither barb solution). still I open adept, it says that the database is in use09:17
Shak1jordo http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8029509:17
captain_flamattila: does lsof returns somethin09:19
captain_flamg ?09:19
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attilano, nothing09:20
captain_flamIf you got a process id, just kill it.09:20
The_Machinehey guys, all of the "pop up" dialog boxes that normally prompt me for information are not appearing unless I click on the application itself.  Can someone tell me how to fix this?09:21
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captain_flamattila: so I suppose you crashed an application or reboot on a dirty way. Try to rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock09:23
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captain_flamYou where root when doing the fstat command right ?09:23
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attilacaptain_flam: I have this problem since I killed some installation09:24
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captain_flamattila: you should try kill berfore kill -9, so the program can exit in a proper way. Anyway, removing the lock should work.09:26
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attilacaptain_flam: I can't remove the file. It says access is denied; what does it mean kill before kill -9?09:29
attilacaptain_flam: sorry, I use kubuntu for a few days only09:29
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shadowhywinddoes anyone know how to change the interface name of say ndiswrapper?09:31
captain_flamattila: the installation you killed was probably with the command "kill -9", that whould be a good idea to try kill (without -9) before you try this. Anyway just remove the file lock and dont forget sudo as it's a file owned by root.09:31
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nagyvattila: hello :)09:32
captain_flamattila: and welcome in the wonderful world of ubuntu (WWU).09:32
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attilanagyv: hello09:32
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willilangerhello, someone can help me?09:36
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nagyv!ask | willilanger09:36
ubotuwillilanger: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)09:36
feanor_y09:36
juliokeith09:36
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willilangereheh ok! Is it possible to force update via web o kubuntu?09:37
nagyvwillilanger: you mean, that you can not sit to your computer?09:37
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willilangerI mean teh automatic update09:37
willilangervia internet09:37
julioanyone speakspanish09:37
rag_hola julio09:38
nagyv!es | julio09:38
ubotujulio: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.09:38
willilanger(sorry for my bad english...)09:38
nagyvno prob09:38
nagyvwillilanger: there is an automatic upgrade tool if I remember well, but don't remember its name, try google09:38
juliocomo le ago soy nuevo09:38
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nagyvwillilanger: otherwise, in general the updates are through the net09:38
willilangernagyv: can I launch it manually?09:39
rag_what dou u want to do? q quiers hacer?09:39
rag_julio)09:39
julioubotu09:39
nagyvwillilanger: and you can connect to your computer from any other computer using ssh, and update the computer from the distance09:39
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juliosi rag09:39
sasoynahi johny_ i finally login... whith hand (startkde)09:39
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nagyvjulio vada a #kubuntu-es09:39
julioquero conversar con vos y camara09:40
nagyvsomeone who speaks spanish, please help him!09:40
nagyv!es | julio09:40
ubotujulio: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.09:40
coreirei'm installing kubuntu there, and i'm at the prepare mount points screen, i've chose a 20gb partition as "/" and i have chosen a swap partition, but when i click continue it gives the message "No Root File System". What am i missing?09:40
willilangernagyv: now I'm diredctly connected to internet with ubuntu09:40
rag_julio,ubuntu-es09:40
KristopheHi anyone have a "windows mobile" palm-like? Does the synchronisation with kontact works?09:40
nagyvjulio click to #kubuntu-es (click-click :) )09:40
nagyvwillilanger: like many of us :)09:40
juliograsias amigos09:40
juliothankiu frens09:41
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nagyvwelcome :)09:41
willilangernagyv: yes... but I'm looking for this automatic update09:41
nagyvwillilanger: as I have told you search a bit, at least I don't know the program09:41
coreireand is it ok to have the root partition as a logical one?09:41
nagyvcoreire: yep09:41
willilangernagyv: ok 10x09:41
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nagyvcoreire: do you have ntfs partitions now? you should select a new file type in the installer09:43
Shak1NEW09:43
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coreirei have ntfs partitions on the drive, but the one i have chosen for root is ext3, and the swap is formatted for swap09:43
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nagyvcoreire: and what is your error message?09:45
tzbishopHow much space on HD (MB) does Kubuntu server consumes ?09:45
johny_sasoyna: how?09:45
julioi havesome questions09:45
coreirenagyv: No root partition09:45
nagyv!ask | julio09:45
ubotujulio: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)09:45
rag_julio, tell09:45
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nagyvcoreire: then try to reformat it as ext3, and select is once more, and apply the results. Sorry, but no better idea. :(09:46
sasoynajohny_: i select failsafe-->i type startkde09:46
coreirei'm using manual partitioning btw, do i have to set the ext3 as active?09:46
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juliomy question is how i do to get comunication thro tht linux to windows vois and video?09:47
albertghi.. i need some help..09:48
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nagyvjulio: you can choose, although I don't have a "best" solution: amsn, skype, kopete09:48
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willilangeranyone know how to get worked the wheel mouse?09:48
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nagyvjulio: and there is also wengophone which is probably the best available possibility09:48
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coreirenagyv: format worked, thanks a lot09:48
rag_amsn, julio09:48
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lupine_85ekiga > wengophone09:49
lupine_85linphone > *09:49
johny_sasoyna: so, everything is ok?09:49
johny_sasoyna: Did someone from #kde help you?09:50
julioI trayed to install amsn but i culdn09:50
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LjLwhatever > whatever, the only one i see a Qt version of is wengophone09:50
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johny_julio: you want to use MSN protocol on Kubuntu?09:50
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juliokubuntu09:51
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sasoynajohny_:not really i enter whith the "manual" mode. I try on #kde.I hope to resolve:)09:51
nagyvLjL: skype is also qt based, althought I would like to use wengo09:51
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albertgHI i need some help09:52
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LjLnagyv: skype isn't a SIP client... i saw lupine_85 listing SIP clients. i don't even consider anything else, especially horrid proprietary protocols09:52
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johny_sasoyna: can you relogin if you want?09:52
albertghow can i modify my source list?09:52
lupine_85skype < *09:52
lupine_85SIP is great, IAX is OK09:52
nagyvI have already tried once to set up a SIP connection between two computers (one windows, and mine), no success. SIP is still not for the ordinary users09:52
nagyvalbertg: kdesu kate09:53
lupine_85lol09:53
johny_albertg: "sudo (editor) /etc/apt/sources.list09:53
nagyvalbertg: then open the file as usual :)09:53
sasoynajohny_:what you mean?09:53
lupine_85no, SIP /is/ for the ordinary user. Skype is for the mindless drone ;)09:53
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johny_albertg: that's from terminal09:53
lupine_85that said, gnome-meeting might be more to your taste09:53
albertgok09:53
albertgjohny_: thx09:53
johny_sasoyna: if you rebbot your computer everything is ok?09:53
lupine_85I think it interoperates with netmeetings09:54
lupine_85netmeeting*09:54
nagyvlupine_85: it was not, I have tried is also, and the problem was probably in the window's client09:54
nagyvlupine_85: but this did not helped me out09:54
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lupine_85so, use a decent windows client? Ekiga compiled for it, last time I checked (although experimentally)09:54
sasoynajohny_:definitely no.I have to enter whith failsafe+kdestart.the only mode for now.09:54
albertgjohny_: hey editor?09:54
nagyvlupine_85: I have tried exactly that :(09:55
johny_albertg: editor= nano (for shell) kate=for graphics09:55
lupine_85nagyv: try #windows and ask what SIP clients they're using?09:55
nagyvlupine_85: thx, this is a good idea :)09:56
lupine_85or set up a trixbox09:56
lupine_85not /that/ is a solution that isn't for the average user09:56
lupine_85now*09:56
albertgjohny_: after i access how do i modify it? or save it09:56
johny_sasoyna: Try to report ypur problem here when more people is on-line or on #kde09:56
Menais fiesty beta ot stable?09:56
sasoynajohny_:I note that i have too many root shells open.I don't think that's matter but who knows?09:57
nagyvMena: beta09:57
albertgjohny_: im getting this error09:57
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albertgjohny_: Failed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/edgy/Release  Unable to find expected entry  main/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)09:57
Menanagyv, okay09:57
sasoynajohny_: on #kde all sleeping:'(09:57
johny_!links|albertg09:57
ubotualbertg: links: Character mode WWW browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99+1.00pre12-1 (edgy), package size 375 kB, installed size 936 kB09:57
johny_sorry09:58
johny_albertg: sorry just use this page for pasting http://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions09:58
albertgubotu: i dont underestan..09:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about i dont underestan.. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:58
johny_albertg: wait aminute09:59
sasoynajohny_:  when more people is on-line here?09:59
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johny_albertg: use this link for pasting pleasehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/09:59
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johny_sasoyna: i don't know, I'm new here. I noticed people coming in the evening or at the morning10:00
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blue|palm!qt10:01
ubotuQt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI. Install the libqt3-mt-dev package to compile Qt applications10:01
albertgjohny_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4339/10:01
johny_sasoyna: you should post this problem on kubuntuforums.net/10:01
Menanagyv, Do you know how to be a devolper in linux ??^_^10:02
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sasoynajohny_:ok you're new here (i am too) but you help me too mutch.1000 tnkx10:02
nagyvMena: what would you like to develop? download its source, add to it, correct it, etc, and send a patch to the actual developers10:02
goodthingany lirc geek in here by any chance10:02
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lisjulio: can u connect with asmn?10:03
sparrhow can i kill apt-index-watch permanently?  lots of forum threads about it hogging cpu and thrashing disk, but i cant find anywhere telling what starts it10:03
Menanagyv, i acculty dont know which i would to be in but i would like bec i realy liked that and its too good10:03
johny_albertg: what package are you trying to install?10:03
Menanagyv, and i want to know much more10:04
albertgwine..10:04
nagyvMena: which language you know?10:04
albertgjohny_: i was trying to install wine..10:04
albertgjohny_: and i cant..10:04
johny_!wine|albertg10:04
ubotualbertg: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.10:04
Menanagyv, my mother launguge is arabic and seconed languge i can speak but not so good is english i know a little france10:04
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binksMena: i think he meant programming language10:05
Menanagyv, hahaha ok10:05
Menanagyv, sorry10:05
Menanagyv, simply i dont knwo bec i dont knwo much10:06
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Menanagyv, So what to do to knwo all this things10:06
goodthingis lirc-modules-source broken in edgy or something?10:06
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nagyvMena: then start to learn them. You can write small shell scripts just for fun. And you should read a lot! Documentations, and after the source code.10:06
binksMena: ok i would learn python as most linux is python or c++ but c++ is way too hard to start10:07
nagyvMena: try to find small problems that you want to solve using the computer, everything, even your homework.10:07
binksplus python is fun and gets you up and running fast and thus addictive10:07
Menanagyv, binks, ok10:07
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binksMena: :)10:08
kde_alinwhat makes python so special?10:08
Menanagyv,i think i should learn more basses abd then learn much more10:08
nagyvMena: I think it is really easy to start with php, because it does not require any strictness, but you have to know all the time, that this way is a wrong way, after move on to python, java, c++, etc10:08
binksMena: http://www.diveintopython.org/10:08
Menanagyv,ok10:09
nagyvbinks: I am going to look at it right now! :)10:09
Menabinks, ok10:09
binksand then come teach me lol10:09
binksim just looking at pyqt10:09
binkshttp://vizzzion.org/?id=pyqt10:09
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timsterHey, how can I chekc what version of Flash im running?10:11
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binkskde_alin python is understandable to even the untrained eye with only a little knowledge10:12
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blue|palm!qt10:12
ubotuQt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI. Install the libqt3-mt-dev package to compile Qt applications10:12
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timster!flash10:12
Menabinks, so i can make any program i wont with this program , right10:12
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:12
ubotuFlash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash10:12
binkshmmm well yes prob but gaming maybe not10:13
binkshow vauge was that10:13
timsterHow can i check what flash version I have got?10:13
binksmaybe flash --version10:14
juliohello10:14
blue|palmwhat would be the fastest distro to run kde on?10:14
nagyvtimster: in firefox open the page "about:plugins"10:14
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binksblue|palm: depends on what you want gentoo is supposedly the fastest but will take you 10 years to install10:15
batteryTrying to install from liveCD. How do I install NDISwrapper to get my WLAN card working?10:15
timsterIt doenst say that i hafve flash?10:15
Wazzzaaahello10:15
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binksWazzzaaa: ayup m810:15
Wazzzaaa:)10:16
h3sp4wnbinks: Its not that much faster10:16
Wazzzaaasome howto's says to use kynaptic, but i can't find it in the menu (kubuntu edgy)10:16
johny_timster: try http://www.google.com/linux?hl=pl&q=flash+version&btnG=Szukaj&lr=10:16
blue|palmI just want to program and use basic tools (mail, websurfing etc.) but i want it to be super-fast in kde if possible...10:16
binkswhich is why i use kubuntu10:16
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blue|palmso its not worth swapping? What about debian?10:17
binksblue|palm: kubuntu will be ok for you is rocks10:17
johny_timster: sorry . this one http://www.google.com/linux?hl=en&q=flash+version&btnG=Szukaj&lr=10:17
blue|palmit is awesome, i know10:17
binksWazzzaaa: what you wanting to install10:17
blue|palmJust my ATI card is disappointing!!!10:18
binkswhats wrong with adept10:18
timsterI got flash 910:18
Ippatsuhi all! I'm having an issue with file sharing with samba/nfs: I can't enable it from system settings or kcontrol because the panel is disabled ( screenshot here: http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sharingubuntuvp7.png ), how can I fix it?10:18
binkshttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy10:18
johny_timster: how did you find it?10:18
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binks^^ blue|palm10:18
blue|palmbinks: yeah?10:18
Wazzzaaabinks, nothing is wrong with apt10:18
timsterYoutube, rightclick a video it says10:19
h3sp4wnblue|palm: etch is slightly faster than kubuntu in my experience10:19
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binksso why use kynaptic10:19
Wazzzaaai prefer doing everything commandline also10:19
binksno u misunderstood adept is a gui10:19
binksin kubuntu10:19
Wazzzaaasorry, i also kno adept10:19
blue|palmh3sp4wn: Im not familiar with debian names! is etch the latest debian distro?10:19
Wazzzaaabut i can't import a gpg key there10:19
binksom yes cli is the best10:20
Wazzzaaa(im new to kubuntu)10:20
Wazzzaaaim desperate, and there is one howto, but that describes installing the GUI way10:20
h3sp4wnblue|palm: etch is debian testing (will be stable soon) its newer than edgy also10:20
h3sp4wn(most packages)10:20
binksWazzzaaa:   what you installing10:21
blue|palmh3sp4wn: cool, ill look into it. How big would the final release iso(s) be though?10:21
johny_Wazzzaaa: Did you triy to do it in apt's way?10:21
h3sp4wnblue|palm: You only need the net-install or kde cd110:21
h3sp4wnblue|palm: there is 20cd's or something I think10:21
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blue|palmh3sd4wn: woah... are there dvd(s)?10:22
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timster!suse10:22
ubotuOther !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)10:22
Wazzzaaajohny_ i don't know anymore what i did and did not try :S10:22
WazzzaaaI want to install my ATI card10:22
h3sp4wnblue|palm: There are - whereas kubuntu / ubuntu etc has one cd - debian has every package on a cd10:22
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binksok a last question to python programmers what ide to use10:22
johny_Wazzzaaa: what package you need?10:22
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zeronas10:23
Wazzzaaaw8 a minute,10:23
batteryWhen using adept it says "eror committing changes" Is NDISWrapper included on the LiveCD?10:23
binksWazzzaaa: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Installation_Guide10:23
binksbattery add the extra repos if your online10:24
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Wazzzaaai already did that10:24
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binksso what error you getting10:24
Wazzzaaahmm, but i think i did the dapper one, maybe that's the prob :S10:24
batteryI am not online. I am trying to add NDISwraper to get the WLAN card to work to get online :-(10:24
Wazzzaaa*shame*10:24
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binkswhat does fglrxinfo give you10:25
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Wazzzaaadirect rendering: No10:25
Wazzzaaathnx for ur help now, i can hack a bit by myself now10:25
johny_Wazzzaaa: what graphics card?10:25
WazzzaaaATI RADEON x140010:26
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johny_!ati|Wazzzaaa10:26
ubotuWazzzaaa: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:26
binksi had to remove refs to wacom devices to get mine working10:26
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jordo23I forgot.....do You have to let Konqueror know you have spamassassin running.....or does it implement itself?10:27
Wazzzaaathnx10:27
jordo23Sorry...meant kontact ^^10:27
jordo23nevermind....found it...10:28
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willilangerhi all, is it possible to use the scroll wheel of the mouse to scroll windows?10:30
timsterDo you all use kopete or what>?10:30
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kukinghi @everybody. im getting error "segmentatiob error" wenn im setting my WLAN ADDR10:31
johny_timster: I do use Kopete, why did you ask?10:31
nagyvtimster: I use konversation10:31
timsterjust wondering if theres a better one10:31
timsterfor msn btw10:31
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kukingGAIIM is also good10:31
liswillilanger: what aplication?10:32
kukingany WLAN gurus10:33
timsterHow do i check the usage of an irc user name10:33
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johny_timster: what you mean "usage"10:33
willilangerlis: for example firefox10:33
timsterSee how many days inactivitiy10:33
johny_timster: try here http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup10:34
willilangerlis: or konversation...10:34
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ErikTheRedanyone know if amarok 1.4.5 is gonna be hitting the repos soon?10:34
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h3sp4wn!info amarok feisty10:35
ubotuamarok: versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.4.4-0.3ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 14652 kB, installed size 32648 kB10:35
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KingDomeanybody has experiance with "feisty"???10:36
KingDomelots of bugs??10:36
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liswillilanger: konverstion, firefox too, its work10:37
dwidmannKingDome: last I checked it wouldn't even boot for me after installing :\10:37
dwidmannOf course, that was a week ago, who knows what has changed10:38
lisgood luck, willilanger. bye10:38
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coreirehi, i just finished a fresh install of kubuntu. I added the res 1360x768 to my xorg.conf before the 1024x768 res is each colour section, but the option isnt available in the monitor and display settings. How do i force this res? Thanks10:38
willilangerthanks lis10:40
dwidmanncoreire: you probably need to run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh"10:40
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johny_!xorg.cong|coreire10:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xorg.cong - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:40
johny_!xorg.conf|coreire10:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xorg.conf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:40
LjL!xconfig10:40
ubotuTo reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes10:41
LjL!xorg.conf is <alias> fixres10:41
ubotuI'll remember that, LjL10:41
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dwidmannooh, a neat trick10:41
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serpentushi... can someone please help..I need to convert an iso image to bin...how can I do it??? thanks10:43
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coreirei ran "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh" and i found 1280x768 which is pretty close, but is there any way to get exactly 1360x768?10:47
LjL1360x768? that's a weird resolution now...10:48
LjLi hope you don't have a 4:3 screen10:48
LjL!modeline10:48
ubotuA Modeline is a configuration line in the X server configuration file that provides information about a connected computer monitor or television and how to drive it at a specified display resolution. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFree86_Modeline for more details. Here is 2 links to generate modelines which fit your monitor: http://www.bohne-lang.de/spec/linux/modeline/ and http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl10:48
coreirei don't, its a widescreen hdtv10:48
coreireits actually 1366x768 but the gfx card can't output that because its not a multiple of 810:49
dwidmannserpentus: to bin? any reason why? Hmm, I see utilities for doing the opposite floating around though (bchunk)10:49
BluesKaj!16x910:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 16x9 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:49
BluesKaj!widescreen10:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about widescreen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:49
BluesKajubot is outdated !10:50
LjLperhaps you could say ubuntu is, if it doesn't recognize widescreen10:50
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LjLanyway just make a modeline10:50
BluesKajubotu is outdated !10:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is outdated ! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:50
BluesKaj:>p10:51
serpentusyep, I only see bin to iso, but I need Iso 2 bin.. it's that my Play Station brokedown T_T... and PCSX only reads bin.....(don worry it's an original game)10:51
crimsundoes anyone happen to be experiencing problems using mysql 5.0.32-2 as the db backend in Feisty's amarok 1.4.5?10:51
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Ashexanyone know of an rdc client that resumes active sessions?10:52
luca_bAshex: NX should do the trick, if there is a NX server on the other side10:53
dwidmannserpentus, I guess google will have to come to the rescue ... I'm sure there's a iso9660 to cue/bin converter floating out there somewhere10:53
voicucrimsun: i updated amarok once and that messed up the collection. i deleted the db in mysql and created a new one. that worked for me10:53
Ashexluca_b, I'm currently using NX10:53
AshexI want one that resumes active sessions10:53
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Ashexkinda like (hate to mention it) windows, where if i remote connect, it automatically locks the active session and allows you to enter it10:53
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luca_bAshex: Ah, not like a real terminal server10:54
coreirewhat should i set dot clock and refresh rate to for an lcd? or does it vary?10:54
Ashexluca_b, pretty much10:54
dwidmanncoreire: every monitor is different10:54
serpentusdwidmann: I tried..it only gives me bin 2 iso.... Well I'll keep trying..if not will have to go to reboot to Window$.... thank you10:54
voicucan anyone explain me briefly what do all the directories in /proc do? i understand that the numbers are processes with statistics and stuff but what is /proc/sys/net? is it some kind of configuration or what?10:54
luca_bAshex: I use NX seldomly, but I never found myself in such a solution (I lock my workstation when I go home from work)10:55
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dwidmannserpentus: if you've got something that can do it in windows, why not try to run it with wine?10:55
voicu /proc/sys/net is just an example10:55
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Ashexluca_b, yeah, I use it to connect to my home machine and do non-productive work10:55
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luca_bvoicu: basically an abstraction of what the kernel "sees" about your HW and other things related10:55
coreiredwidmann: is there a default? whatever xorg is using at the moment is fine10:55
coreirei just don't know what values xorg is using10:56
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luca_bcoreire: usually X tries to get the information via DDC, i.e. by requesting them directly to the monitor10:56
crimsunvoicu: in dapper, edgy orfeisty?10:56
jottluca_b: NX allows to detach a session...10:56
luca_bjott: yes, but it doesn't "lock" a local session that is active10:56
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coreireluca_b: is there any wat for me to find the values X is receiving?10:57
voiculuca_b: ok, so it's like you can change the kernel internal settings, right?10:57
jetsaredimgetting rather frustrated10:57
luca_bjott: because it acts like a true terminal server (rather than what Microsoft does)10:57
dwidmanncoreire: maybe10:57
luca_bvoicu: some of them, yes10:57
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jetsaredimI still can't seem to find a package that will allow dvd playback on kubuntu feisty10:57
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voicucrimsun: edgy, but it *looks* like the problem i had, why not try it? you just have to wait for amarok to rescan the collection10:57
coreiredwidmann: any idea where to look?10:58
voicuok, thanks luca_b10:58
crimsunvoicu: the error I'm experiencing is a bit more difficult to diagnose, as there's no collection being generated from a fresh install at all [with the appropriate additional packages installed] 10:58
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jottluca_b: on the other hand you could use vnc then...10:58
dwidmanncoreire: doesn't look like there are any clues in /var/log/Xorg.0.log, I'll take a look around elsewhere to see where it might put them10:59
luca_bjott: yes, that would work10:59
goodthingare there other apps than mythtv which are able to be controlled by a remote?10:59
spitwisedoes anyone know how to make amarok NOT launch everytime i click on an mp3?11:00
jottluca_b: or only use nx even for local sessions ;)11:00
jetsaredimcan anyone tell me what I need to change to be able to install things like dvdcss, flash, java, etc??11:00
voicucrimsun: so what exactly happens, what errors do you get? do you want to create the collection and it doesn't go into sql or what?11:00
spitwisejetsaredim: have you edited your sources.list?11:00
luca_bspitwise: you can change associations in kcontrol11:00
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spitwisesweet thanks luca_b11:01
voicusorry for my limited vocabulary, it's late :D11:01
coreiredwidmann: ok thanks, i'm playing with the xorg.conf now, hopefully i'll figure out a way to get the res11:01
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luca_bcoreire: probably through the RandR applet11:01
jetsaredimspitwise: um - not sure - I added universe and multiverse to the lists of the feisty repos in the adept screens but that seems to have done nothing11:02
luca_bcoreire: open a terminal and type "xrandr"11:02
spitwiseafter adding them you need to update11:02
jetsaredimbut that was just a reaching at straws kind of thing11:02
luca_bit will type alll the resolutions and highlight the current one with an asterisk11:02
dwidmannhmm,  that's what I was just about to say too :\11:02
spitwisei don;'t use adept but in konsole you type sudo apt-get update11:02
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jetsaredimspitwise: then what?11:03
jetsaredimI should be able to find the packages I need/want?11:03
jottthere is even a kde frontend for randr called krandrtray :)11:04
spitwisejetsaredim: ya, but i don't know about dvd things .. i ain't got one11:04
luca_bI don't think dvdcss is in multiverse11:04
dwidmann!libdvdcss211:04
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages11:04
coreireluca_b: its reports 1024x768 down to 400x300, 1024x768 has the asterisk11:05
luca_bcoreire: that's your current res then11:05
jetsaredimyea - i went to those urls but they don't cover feisty11:05
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luca_bjetsaredim: oh, I think there was a discussion on the kubuntu ML about feisty and DVD stuff11:05
dwidmannlibdvdcss2 has been the same for a long, long, long while11:05
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LordOlliehey hey11:06
coreireyes, but i can't find a way to add the 1360x768 res, i got 1280x768 and was able to use it, i then went into xorg.conf, edited 1280 to 1360, saved, rebooted, and now the max is 1024x768 again11:06
jetsaredimhm - apt-get update seems to have flagged some packages11:06
dwidmannhi LordOllie11:06
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LordOlliehas anyone succesfully installed banshee on edgy?11:06
luca_bcoreire: that's an HD res, I assume?11:06
cntbcan I change password create users in rescue mode thru alternateCD?11:07
luca_bjetsaredim: install libdvdread311:07
coreireyes, its a 720p tv, with max res of 1366x76811:07
dwidmanncoreire: the best way to get the right res would be to figure out your monitor's horizontal sync and vertical refresh values, then reconfigure X to use them11:07
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luca_bjetsaredim: then try this - sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh -  I'm not sure if it will work *at all* but worth trying11:07
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coreiredwidmann: ok thanks, i'll try to find out the values11:07
serenityhi11:07
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LordOlliesorry about that, did I miss anyone's answer?11:08
serenityi share my desktop via krfb, is it possible to contact this desktop on windows?11:08
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jetsaredimluca_b: I saw that in the docs, but I couldn't find that package anywhere11:09
cntbserenity krfb form other PC with windows?11:09
shadowhywindhow does one change the the login screen11:09
serenitycntb: yes11:09
jottcoreire: do you have a nvidia card and use the binary driver?11:09
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coreirejott: i have an ATI, i'm downloadin the driver there now to see if it helps11:09
luca_bjetsaredim: hmm... unsure11:09
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soulriderwhat command can i use to view how much ram and swap i have in use ?11:10
dwidmannsoulrider: top11:10
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jottsoulrider: free11:10
luca_bcoreire: check this out http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Modeline_Database11:11
dwidmannsoulrider: that or hit ctrl+escape11:11
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coreireluca_b: thanks11:11
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soulriderthanks!11:11
|Soul|Shadow|np j/k11:11
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|Soul|Shadow|ya see why I hate ubuntu, It would'nt even let me have a multi linux os 1 kubuntu 1 ubuntu server :^{11:12
luca_bcoreire: beware, some snippets include references to the nvidia driver11:13
=== |Soul|Shadow| sceams, we lost sereniy we are all oing to go mad!!
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VanessaEeh, any linux distro can be run with multiple copies, just put them on different partitions.11:13
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|Soul|Shadow|nah ubuntu would not function & wouldnt even let me set up he server11:15
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|Soul|Shadow|even this install didnt give e optin to setup workgroup11:15
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VanessaEhm11:15
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|Soul|Shadow|face it ubuntu's gnome sux :P11:15
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coreireluca_b: thanks a lot, the settings for the previous model of my tv are there, hopefully they'll work for mine. How exactly do i use the modeline info?11:16
martijn__hello11:16
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dwidmannhttp://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl <-- what a neat toy11:16
^genius=)11:16
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coreireall i've got is ## DisplaySize             349 19611:17
coreire# Modeline                "1360x768" 85.500 1360 1424 1536 1792 768 771 777 795 +Hsync +Vsync11:17
coreiredunno what to do with it11:17
dwidmannIt goes in the xorg.conf file11:18
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|Soul|Shadow|I basicly want to use samba to run a database server on kubuntu linux but windows wont see the linux pc, how do I fix this?  I cannot use linux on other machines either11:18
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|Soul|Shadow|dwid plz dont post unknown scripts11:18
LordOlliehas anyone installed banshee, that could point me in the direction of the solution to my problem?11:18
|Soul|Shadow|core dlete it, I would11:18
|Soul|Shadow|delete*11:19
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LordOllie|Soul|Shadow| is that your solution to me?11:19
LordOllie*for11:19
|Soul|Shadow|no11:19
LordOllieohhh, okay11:19
LordOllienever mind then11:19
|Soul|Shadow|banshee video card?11:19
|Soul|Shadow|I delt with em before what is the prob11:20
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LordOllieno the gnome media player11:20
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|Soul|Shadow|ur using gnome??11:20
dwidmannMight find better Gnome related answers in #ubuntu11:21
|Soul|Shadow|ok unplug ur pc & throw it agenst the wall 5 times then install kubuntu :P11:21
|Soul|Shadow|that'll fix it11:21
VanessaEwtf?11:21
LordOlliebut, I installed it on kubuntu from adept, or still #ubuntu?11:21
|Soul|Shadow|gnome sux man its how u fix a gnome issue11:22
dwidmann|Soul|Shadow|: if I found my computer running GNOME, I'm sure I would do that :P11:22
rEvolution27man i hate the ubuntu channell... you kde guys rock11:22
VanessaEif you don't like gnome don't sit in here bashing it; use something else.11:22
|Soul|Shadow|yeah u gotta install kubuntu from disk otherwise it has alot of missing things11:22
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|Soul|Shadow|im using kde11:23
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VanessaEas am I.11:23
dwidmannLordOllie: last scraps? "dpkg --purge guarddog" should have taken care of that11:23
rEvolution27I have a file that doesn't exist on my desktop, how do I delete it?11:23
|Soul|Shadow|U try convert gnome to kde al u get is POS :P11:23
VanessaEeh, all you have to do is *install* KDE.11:24
dwidmannrEvolution27: try refreshing the desktop11:24
LordOlliedwidmann: I did, there was still guarddog config's, icons, scripts, and it still controlled my iptables11:24
VanessaEyou don't have to "convert" anything.11:24
|Soul|Shadow|not through gnome u cant it has alot of missing files11:24
VanessaEyes you can.11:24
VanessaEit's not a gnome thing11:24
dwidmannLordOllie: How evil of it ... purge is supposed to dump the configs ...11:24
VanessaEand you don't *have* to use synaptic either.11:24
|Soul|Shadow|only if you wanan screw up ur pc11:24
VanessaEyou can use adept or command line tools.11:24
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hatta<3 aptitude11:24
VanessaEor aptitude :)11:25
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|Soul|Shadow|yeah I know I did adeept to update gnome to kde before I ended up with half installed kd e & alot of errors11:25
jottor raw dpkg :p11:25
dwidmannjott, that would be as bad as .... raw rpm. No, just no.11:25
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|Soul|Shadow|l8tr11:27
VanessaEgevalt!11:27
rEvolution27I refreshed the desktop and the file is still there but with a lock on it11:28
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coreirei'm trying to run a driver installer. "sh ./ati-driver-installer-8.33.6.run". But am getting error "can't open ./ati-driver-installer-8.33.6.run". As far as i can remember i used to have to set some attribute to open these?11:29
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cerituscan anyone tell me how to enable s-video out?11:37
flaccidi'd like to know that as well11:37
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ceritusi've looked all around in my system settings and can't figure it out. help?!?!?11:38
h3sp4wnceritus: bash ./ati-driver-installer-8.33.6.run11:38
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QUINTIX256need help:11:39
cerituscan you explain (completel noob) what exactley that will do?11:39
QUINTIX256Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has the version 1.0-9746, but11:39
QUINTIX256this X module has the version 1.0-8776.  Please make sure that the kernel11:39
QUINTIX256module and all NVIDIA driver components have the same version.11:39
cntbvivery buggy on rescue alternateCD what other editor? help11:39
flaccidceritus: it will do nothing as you havnt even downloaded that file to pwd11:39
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Alarmhello. when trying to upgrade the packages i get the following error: Err http://gr.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/universe wine 0.9.30-0ubuntu2~edgy111:40
Alarm  404 Not Found [IP: 147.102.222.211 80]  Get:1 http://www.getautomatix.com edgy/main automatix2 1.1-2.14-6.10edgy_i386 [196kB] 11:40
AlarmE: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missin11:40
Alarmwhy is that happening11:40
flaccidAlarm: it means that package doesn't exist on the server11:40
Alarmwell it happened also with automatix11:41
jhutchinsAlarm: Maybe a bad mirror?11:41
Alarmwell with 2 different packages ?11:41
jhutchinsAlarm: When was the last time you updated the apt databases?11:41
Alarm2 mins ago11:41
jhutchinsapt-get update && apt-get upgrade?11:41
Alarmand then i did try the upgrade11:41
flaccidit probably doesn't exist on the gr. mirror or getautomatix.com11:42
Alarmand saw 2 packages available, but none of those two is being downloaded11:42
flaccidyeah so the packages dont exist on the server11:42
jhutchinsAlarm: It's probably a mirroring problem with the servers, which means you'll just have to wait for it to work it's way out of the system.11:42
Alarmokie...11:42
jhutchinsAlarm: Like the package list has been updated, but the actual packages haven't reached the server yet.11:43
flaccidso you change to a dif source that has them or you remove them11:43
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Alarmone more question. when installing for example kdeartwork , it installs automatically. The following NEW packages will be installed:11:45
Alarm  kdeartwork kdeartwork-emoticons kdeartwork-misc kdeartwork-style kdeartwork-theme-icon... and some other packages, when removing with apt-get remove kdeartwork , will it also remove all those packages that has installed automatically or i need another command ?11:45
Tm_TAlarm: Nope.11:46
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AlarmTm_T,  nope, i dont need any other command, nop it will not remove all the packages? be more specific11:47
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jhutchinsAlarm: One way to be sure.11:49
jhutchinsMake a list of the packages.  Run the command. See what happens. Remove the other packages if needed.11:49
Alarmokie11:49
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Tm_TAlarm: It does remove only the artwork metapackage.11:50
AlarmTm_T,  and what happens with the rest? how can i remove everything that was installed with that package as well ?11:50
Tm_TAlarm: Well, separately, yeah, it stinks, but that's how it works.11:51
jhutchinsOne-way link.11:51
jhutchinsThat ought to be fixed.11:51
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Alarmokie, and a last question (i hope at least, also for ur own good :) ) , whats the difference between purge and remove11:52
Tm_TAlarm: Dunno how well does apt-get remind you those "now unneeded packages"11:52
jetsaredimI installed libdvdread3 and I don't have that script that's supposed to set everything up for you11:52
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AlarmTm_T,  apt-get autoremove . but that doesnt remove also things that have been installed with the another application11:52
Tm_TAlarm: Purge does take also config files etc11:52
jetsaredimnor can I read dvds11:52
jetsaredimif I can't get this shit figured out - I'm going back to gentoo11:53
jetsaredimthis is crazy11:53
Alarmwell, then purge cleans the system a bit more than remove...11:53
cntbwhatsup matsavhalev_11:53
jetsaredimwhy can't I say that I want to install a given package and just get the right crap11:53
Tm_TAlarm: Yes it does.11:53
coreirei'm trying to run a driver installer. "sh ./ati-driver-installer-8.33.6.run". But am getting error "can't open ./ati-driver-installer-8.33.6.run". As far as i can remember i used to have to set some attribute to open these?11:53
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jhutchinsjetsaredim: You're dealing with the problems of working around the insane U.S. copyright/IP laws.11:54
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jetsaredimwhy is it ubuntu foundation's problem if I install dvdcss11:54
jhutchinsjetsaredim: The software to play a CSS encoded DVD on Linux is illegal in the U.S.  The guy who wrote it went to jail.11:54
h3sp4wncoreire: chmod +x11:54
h3sp4wncoreire: but you need to run it with bash not dash11:54
jetsaredimyea - i know that11:55
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jetsaredimbut why is it so damned hard to find the package11:55
h3sp4wnsh = dash11:55
johny_jetsaredim: is that true?11:55
jetsaredimwhat true?11:55
jhutchinsjetsaredim: So ubuntu would rather concentrate on all the other things you can do with a linux PC than go to jail.11:55
coreireh3sp4wn:how do i use bash?11:55
johny_what's the guy's name?11:55
jetsaredimI'd like it to do desktop pc like things11:55
thompamy printer wont print and I am clueless?11:55
h3sp4wncoreire: instead of sh ./ just use bash ./11:55
johny_jetsaredim: what's the guy's name?11:56
jetsaredimI can gt this all working in gentoo in a couple days11:56
coreireok, thanks a lot11:56
jhutchinsjetsaredim: You can always do it yourself, it's just a matter of learning the right things.11:56
jetsaredimdvd jon11:56
johny_He's not in jail11:56
jetsaredimyea - no crap11:56
thompalaserjet-1018 ready, state job stopped...11:56
jetsaredimbut I can't seem to find the information and no one on here seems to know either11:56
jhutchinsjetsaredim: Many people have been able to get it to work in ubuntu too.  I haven't gone that far yet, because I don't watch encrypted DVD's on my kubuntu box, or my other workstation for that matter.11:56
jetsaredimI'll have to go to the forums11:56
jhutchinsjetsaredim: I hate to make it seem like I'm blaming you, but you're probably asking the wrong questions.11:57
h3sp4wn!restricted11:57
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:57
jhutchinsjetsaredim: Yeah, have you read thost three?11:57
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jhutchins(Well, the first two.)11:57
jetsaredimyes i have11:57
jhutchinsOk.11:57
jetsaredimbut they don't mention feisty11:57
jhutchinsOh.11:57
jhutchinsThat's because feisty isn't finished yet.11:58
jetsaredimheaven forbid I want to use the latest version11:58
jetsaredimso I should install edgy?11:58
jhutchinsIf you want stuff to just work, go back to edgy.  Feisty is testing, it's available for people to find bugs in.11:58
jetsaredimhmm ok11:58
jetsaredimI'll try that11:58
jetsaredimI'll be back11:58
jetsaredim/q11:58
jhutchinsMandriva makes a pretty big point that the whole purpose of Cooker is to find bugs, and you should expect it to be broken.  Why doesn't ubuntu do the same?11:59
h3sp4wnIt does12:00
h3sp4wn(To a point anyway - but it doesn't change as much as rawhide or cooker)12:01
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jhutchinsTHe distros need to do that on their beryl packages too.12:01
jhutchinsall the distros.12:01
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h3sp4wnWaste of time beryl I think12:02
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Captain_RedbeardHmm silly question... if one install Fiesty Fawn Herd 3, which is womewhat an alpha release, and keep the system updated with the new packages that gets released will it thus "automagically" become stable once the "real deal" is released? I mean it should since you update all the packages all the time and such?12:03
andreh3sp4wn I disagree it has some very good features and enhancements12:03
soul-shadowNeed help im trying to run fileshare to odify shares & says I need root access, I tell it login root acces & it still all greyed out12:03
jhutchinsCaptain_Redbeard: I believe it has worked that way in the past.12:03
cntbcheck this out http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6332441.stm12:03
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Captain_Redbeardjhutchins: yea just what I was thinking...12:04
jhutchinsCaptain_Redbeard: That's one of the things about the named releases, as opposed to "devel" or "unstable"12:04
cntbon trial for using pirated PCs12:04
cntbthey should install ten of thousands of linux boxes in schools12:04
cntbsorry for off-topic12:05
Captain_RedbeardBah the mirror to fownload it is mad slow though :P12:05
Captain_Redbeard*download12:05
jhutchinscntb: You could have tried for a save by suggesting they use kubuntu...12:05
jhutchinsCaptain_Redbeard: Try another mirror.12:05
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Captain_Redbeardjhutchins: there are none listed12:06
jhutchins!mirrors12:06
ubotuKubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php12:06
phobiacDo the gstreamer plugins and libxine-extracodecs packages work in kubuntu or do I need a different set of pacakages?12:06
phobiacpackages*12:06
Captain_RedbeardI trust you've all seen http://youtube.com/watch?v=FVbf9tOGwno btw? :)12:07
jhutchinsHm.  A lot of the mirrors will also have feisty.12:07
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cntbjhutchins: BTW burned a kubuntu DVD the other day and it booted but failed install12:07
cntb!mirrors12:08
ubotuKubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php12:08
johny_!fglrx12:08
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:08
phobiacCaptain_Redbeard: I saw it, but I can't stand Opie and Anthony.12:08
Captain_Redbeardjhutchins: already checked those without any luck... or well not all of them obviously but a fair share of them12:08
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Captain_Redbeard50KB/sec :P and the torrent doesn't work >.<12:10
Alarmis there a way to change the colour of the fonts that are displayed in the taskbar (those that show the opened windows). as also if it is possible when rolling over of the applications,placed in the taskbar not to turn gray12:10
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