[01:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83342 in launchpad-bazaar "Strange ": (Optional)" artifact on branch registration page" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83342
[02:32] <ryanakca> hmm... any way to have a revision/commit removed from launchpad?
[02:33] <Nafallo> ryanakca: undo your changes and commit -m 'undo last revision' and push again? :-)
[02:34] <spiv> There's an "uncommit" command.
[02:34] <spiv> (in bzr, that is)
[02:34] <ryanakca> Nafallo: but then, couldn't someone just download the source from launchpad... and go back... and the go back to the current version?
[02:34] <ryanakca> or no?
[02:34] <Nafallo> ryanakca: probably :-)
[02:35] <Nafallo> dooh!
[02:35] <ryanakca> SSHHH!
[02:35] <ryanakca> s/one/on
[02:35] <spiv> I *think* that uncommit, folowed by "bzr push --overwrite", will update the branch on launchpad correctly, although the revision will still exist in the repository most likely.
[02:35] <Nafallo> why not just change the password? :-)
[02:35] <ryanakca> Nafallo: hmm... kk
[02:42] <Nafallo> :-P
[02:45] <mpt> danilos: "For Evolution, Launchpad currently recommends translating Hoary evolution."
[02:45] <mpt> Hoary? Really?
[02:45] <Nafallo> lol
[02:45] <ryanakca> mpt: ouch
[03:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83350 in launchpad ""Link to Any Package" forbidden, "Link to Ubuntu Package" not" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83350
[03:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83351 in malone "Distinguish Rejected/Fix Released bugs in list of suggestions" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83351
[03:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83357 in launchpad ""Link to Ubuntu Package" doesn't allow choosing a release" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83357
[04:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83359 in rosetta "Explain how suggested translatable package is derived/changeable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83359
[04:19] <mpt> Ah, I feel much better now :-)
[04:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83360 in rosetta ""Used elsewhere:" and "Suggestions:" sections begin with a stray blank line" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83360
[05:44] <Bhaskar> when will solved the problem of queue bug i.e download po and mo?
[05:44] <Bhaskar> stub: still problem?
[05:46] <stub> Bhaskar: Should be fine now. There are no more outstanding fixes pending.
[05:46] <Bhaskar> stub: but i m not getting po and mo 
[05:47] <LaserJock> danilos said early UTC Monday
[05:49] <stub> I'm not sure why he would say that - nothing related from him or Carlos on the list of fixes to put into production.
[05:56] <LaserJock> hmm, well I don't know
[05:56] <LaserJock> I just lurk around here
[05:57] <stub> Maybe didn't get a fix completed, or maybe forgot to add it to the lists... 
[05:59] <LaserJock> what's the difference between edge. demo. and beta. ?
[06:05] <Fujitsu> Beta has the new shiny UI... Edge seems to have some newish features... Demo is on another DB, I think... Not sure, exactly.
[06:06] <Hobbsee> oh cool, edge does exist.
[06:06] <ajmitch> no idea, I can't really login :)
[06:06] <ajmitch> ignore that, it seems to be living now
[06:10] <Fujitsu> apport uses edge for submitting bugs, but that's about the extent of my knowledge.
[06:18] <mpt> edge.launchpad.net updates every day or so, whereas launchpad.net updates every couple of weeks
[06:19] <mpt> demo.launchpad.net is used for demoing Launchpad to large projects
[06:38] <stub> Hobbsee: Not much at the moment - the production system is only a few revisions away from the bleeding edge that is edge.
[06:39] <Hobbsee> stub: ahhh...
[07:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83372 in malone "Go to next / previous bug in search results without jumping back to search page" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83372
[07:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #42409 in launchpad-bazaar "Uncaught xmlrpclib.ProtocolError in BranchStatusClient.mirrorFailed" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/42409
[07:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83376 in launchpad-bazaar "Browsing bzr branches from a project page changes the "root"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83376
[09:18] <carlos> morning
[09:19] <Bhaskar> carlos,hello
[09:22] <ddaa> Hello there
[09:24] <jml> ddaa: hello!
[09:25] <ddaa> hey jml, how's weather in the UK?
[09:25] <jml> ddaa: I wouldn't know! I'm in Australia.
[09:26] <ddaa> jml: isn't .au in the UK?
[09:26] <jml> ddaa: no.
[09:26] <jml> ddaa: we share the same Head of State
[09:26] <thumper> british empire yes
[09:26] <ddaa> why would you celebrate the Queen Birthday, then?
[09:26] <thumper> they love her :)
[09:26] <jml> ddaa: an extra day  off,  of course
[09:27] <ddaa> thumper: I though that the UK was known as "what's left of the british empire after everybody else had the good sense to leave" :)
[09:27] <thumper> nah UK is scotland, england, wales and northern ireland
[09:28] <ddaa> I hope the southern irish don't feel left out too much
[09:28] <jml> not at all.
[09:28] <thumper> ddaa: not heard of the IRA?
[09:28] <ddaa> thumper: what is your sarcasm meter telling you?
[09:28] <thumper> ddaa: it's in that grey area
[09:28] <jml> ddaa: you see, there is this thing called the Commonwealth Games. Australia remains a member of the Commonwealth so we can thrash the English (and NZ) at _yet_ _another_ major sporting event.
[09:29] <ddaa> jml: I see, that makes perfect Australian sense.
[09:29] <jml> ddaa: exactly!
[09:29] <jml> ddaa: actually, one of my ambitions is to get the French to take up cricket and beat the English international test team.
[09:30] <ddaa> It involves a lot of beer, running into people at high speed, and kicking the shit out of English, I like it!
[09:30] <jml> imagine the humiliation
[09:30] <ddaa> cricket's too complicated for the French
[09:30] <ddaa> most of them do not even properly understand soccer
[09:31] <ddaa> well, that was fun
[09:31] <ddaa> thumper: I'm concerned about your sarcasm meter... if I only put it in the grey area
[09:32] <thumper> ddaa: it is hard to determine sarcasm purely over IRC
[09:32] <ddaa> that means that whenever it goes red, there's no need to check it out
[09:32] <thumper> detection is much better over the phone
[09:32] <ddaa> right
[09:33] <jml> speaking of which...
[09:33] <thumper> ddaa: speaking of which, did you want a chat before the meeting?
[09:33] <ddaa> oh well, just to make things clear, I was sarcasting since "how's the weather in the UK?"
[09:33] <jml> ddaa: do you have a skype id?
[09:33] <ddaa> jml: david.allouche, I think
[09:33] <mantiena> Hi all
[09:33] <thumper> hi mantiena
[09:34] <mantiena> danilos: roseta export still not fixed ?
[09:34] <ddaa> thumper: did I?
[09:35] <thumper> ddaa: it was a question, not responding to a request
[09:35] <thumper> according to skype the only two david allouche's are in isreal
[09:35] <ddaa> mh
[09:35] <thumper> you moved lately?
[09:35] <ddaa> won't move there
[09:36] <ddaa> stupid religious fanatic government
[09:36] <ddaa> yeah my account is "david.allouche"
[09:37] <ddaa> thumper: but indeed, with my name, I'd have little trouble getting there.
[09:37] <thumper> ddaa: User not found
[09:38] <jml> thumper: there's a third in Toulouse.
[09:38] <ddaa> what with Toulouse again??
[09:38] <ddaa> some acquaintance of me stopped calling me because he thought I had moved in Toulouse...
[09:41] <mantiena> carlos: hi, are you online ?
[09:41] <carlos> mantiena: hi, yes
[09:41] <mantiena> mpt told me, that you probably know when roseta export will work, so, I'm asking :)
[09:42] <carlos> I have the fix done, but I need to get someone from our QA team to review it and apply it on production
[09:43] <jml> ddaa: ah. found you.
[10:01] <mantiena> carlos: ok, thanks for info
[10:03] <carlos> mantiena: btw, it's being reviewed right now
[10:06] <mantiena> carlos: please anounce here when fix will be comitted
[10:07] <carlos> mantiena: ok, anyway, I will announce it in mailing lists too
[10:37] <Bhaskar> carlos, i have so urgent to download po , but i could not get success from several days, when i can get?
[10:38] <Bhaskar> carlos, i have urgent to build my project but i have no updated po
[10:38] <carlos> Bhaskar: we have a problem right now with the exports, the fix is being reviewed right now by our QA team and I hope it will be deployed later today
[10:39] <carlos> Bhaskar: is it an Ubuntu .po file?
[10:39] <Bhaskar> carlos, schooltool po
[10:40] <carlos> then I don't have any workaround, sorry. I will do my best to have it solved today, that's the only thing I can tell you right now...
[10:42] <Bhaskar> carlos, best of luck ,for your success today
[10:45] <carlos> thank you
[10:48] <seb128> hi carlos
[10:48] <carlos> seb128: hi
[10:48] <seb128> carlos: any news from feisty on rosetta?
[10:48] <carlos> seb128: I need to check with Stuart, he did another opening test this weekend
[10:49] <carlos> stu1: ping
[10:52] <stu1> carlos: just finished - 25 hours
[10:52] <carlos> stub: 25 hours?
[10:52] <stub> 07:15:49 INFO    Starting...
[10:52] <stub> 07:15:49 INFO    Filling POTemplate table...
[10:52] <stub> 07:15:49 INFO    Filling POTMsgSet table...
[10:52] <stub> 07:16:36 INFO    Filling POMsgIDSighting table...
[10:52] <stub> 07:17:10 INFO    Filling POFile table...
[10:52] <stub> 07:17:52 INFO    Filling POMsgSet table...
[10:52] <carlos> how's possible that it took only 3 hours for Edgy and it's taking now 25 hours?
[10:52] <stub> 07:43:58 INFO    Filling POSubmission table with active submissions...
[10:52] <stub> 20:51:27 INFO    Filling POSubmission table with published submissions...
[10:53] <stub> 23:35:58 INFO    Filling POSelection table...
[10:53] <stub> 08:34:41 INFO    Updating POFile's statistics
[10:53] <stub> 08:34:41 INFO    Done...
[10:53] <carlos> oh, right
[10:53] <carlos> the fucking statistics....
[10:53] <carlos> hmmm and also published submissions...
[10:54] <stub> There is a trigger on posubmission that might not have been there last run
[10:54] <carlos> stub: the statistics could be handled like we did for Edgy, disable them and do the update later once launchpad is back online
[10:54] <carlos> which one is it?
[10:54] <carlos> let me check..
[10:55] <stub>     mv_pofiletranslator_posubmission AFTER INSERT OR DELETE OR UPDATE ON posubmission FOR EACH ROW EXECUTE PROCEDURE mv_pofiletranslator_posubmission()
[10:55] <carlos> oh, that one...
[10:55] <carlos> stub: could we disable it while opening Feisty?
[10:56] <stub> carlos: It would take just as long as we would need to rebuild the materialized view afterwards.
[10:56] <stub> What is the problem with 25 hours btw?
[10:56] <carlos> stub: will you have launchpad down for 25 hours?
[10:56] <carlos> stub: last time I checked, you said we need to turn it down to execute the script
[10:56] <stub> Ok. I forgot this involved downtime :)
[10:57] <carlos> stub: if we disable the trigger, could we rebuild the  view with launchpad online?
[10:58] <stub> I think so, yes. And it is worth timing the rebuild anyway as I could be wrong about the rebuild time.
[10:59] <carlos> stub: ok, so, could you do another timing without the trigger so we can schedule the opening?
[11:00] <carlos> stub: you can also disable the statistics refresh
[11:00] <stub> We also want the code to rebuild the view so we can confirm the results are correct. Disabling statistics seems pointless as that was near instantaneous.
[11:01] <carlos> stub: that's something the statistics script will recalculate later so we don't need to waste time with launchpad offline to do that
[11:01] <carlos> oh, right, sorry, I misread the output you pasted...
[11:02] <SteveA> BjornT_, spiv: is there a review team meeting now?
[11:02] <stub> carlos: The big problem though is filling POSelection, clocking in at 9 hours. Disabling the trigger won't help that at all.
[11:02] <spiv> SteveA: there should be, yes.
[11:03] <SteveA> lifeless is traveling
[11:03] <spiv> Although seeing as it's 9pm, I won't be too disappointed if there isn't ;)
[11:03] <SteveA> and he asks that someone allocate reviews during the next couple of days
[11:03] <SteveA> until he gets home
[11:04] <carlos> stub: any suggestion (other than implementing the DB schema changes we plan to do)?
[11:04] <BjornT_> SteveA, spiv: since jamesh doesn't seem to be here either, maybe it's better to have it later today with flacoste and salgado instead?
[11:05] <BjornT_> spiv: (meaning you won't have to attend)
[11:05] <BjornT_> SteveA: i can allocate the reviews
[11:05] <spiv> BjornT_: sounds ok to me.  For the record, I don't have any issues to raise this week.
[11:05] <stub> carlos: Some more statistical output from the script would have been useful - so we can see the number of rows actually being inserted, updated etc. at each stage.
[11:06] <SteveA> ok
[11:06] <SteveA> jamesh will be in brazil later
[11:06] <carlos> stub: I could prepare a fast patch to add that
[11:07] <carlos> stub: would be possible to get write access to the language pack db so I can do the testing while adding more info?
[11:09] <mantiena> SteveA: labas
[11:09] <SteveA> sveikas!
[11:09] <mantiena> SteveA: still not in Lithuania ?
[11:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #57391 in launchpad-bazaar "Message column on branch summary list should honour newlines in log messages" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/57391
[11:12] <stub> carlos: you don't have access to that database already?
[11:12] <carlos> stub: only in ro mode and as rosettaadmin
[11:12] <carlos> stub: that doesn't allow me to do translation opening
[11:13] <carlos> stub: or at least, if I have such access, you didn't tell me the user that would give me it
[11:14] <stub> carlos: Quickest way of getting the rowcount is to query cursor.rowcount after the query has been executed
[11:14] <stub> That will give the number of rows affected by the previous UPDATE or inserted by the previous INSERT
[11:15] <stub> The language openig script connects as the rosettaadmin user though. What postgres user do you need access as?
[11:16] <carlos> is it?
[11:16] <stub> do you want to examine the existing database, or should I kick off a rebuild?
[11:17] <carlos> kick off a rebuild, please
[11:17] <carlos> stub: ok, I don't know why, I thought we were using another user
[11:18] <carlos> stub: anyway, I will need that you disable the trigger once the rebuild is done
[11:20] <SteveA> mantiena: no, I won't be back until the EuroPython conference in Vilnius
[11:20] <mantiena> SteveA: EuroPythion will be in Vilnius ? When ?
[11:20] <stub> carlos: That will be just over two hours, so I'll do it after dinner
[11:21] <carlos> ok
[11:21] <carlos> stub: In the mean time, I'm going to prepare a patch to add more verbose output
[11:21] <carlos> stub: thank you
[11:49] <cprov> good morning folks !
[12:06] <SteveA> mantiena: http://www.europython.org/  9-11 july
[12:27] <gnomefreak> how do i get in touch with stub?
[12:29] <spiv> gnomefreak: email is best.  stuart at canonical.com.
[12:29] <gnomefreak> spiv: ty
[01:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83405 in malone "Impossible to burn about is the software (bug in cdrecord)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83405
[02:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83414 in blueprint "Mail handler crashes if it receives a empty mail body" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83414
[03:06] <daviey> Hi, is it possible to change your profile alias? ie the first part of your email address that gets embedded
[03:07] <mrevell> daviey: hi
[03:08] <mrevell> If you click
[03:08] <mrevell> "Personal Details"
[03:08] <mrevell> in the left-hand menu, you'll see a box called, "Name"
[03:09] <mrevell> Enter you new profile name in there
[03:09] <daviey> mrevell, thanks - got it! l)
[03:09] <mrevell> then click the "Save" button at the bottom of the page.
[03:09] <mrevell> Cool :)
[03:09] <daviey> ;), i had an embarrasing one as i needed to use a hotmail addy as my usual was blocking launchpad
[03:10] <mrevell> Aha :)
[03:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83422 in malone "Targeting sourcepackages in distroreleases using the email interfaces crashes the email handler" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83422
[03:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #51494 in malone "Emailinterface fails to file a 'backported' bug. (dup-of: 83422)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/51494
[03:27] <BjornT_> flacoste, jamesh, salgado, SteveA: how about a reviewer meeting in one hour? (i.e. 1530 UTC)
[03:27] <flacoste> BjornT_: fine with me
[03:27] <salgado> BjornT_, sounds good
[03:30] <BjornT_> cool
[03:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83426 in malone "Issuing the 'affects' command before a 'bug' command while editing multiple bugs using the email interface shouldn't crash." [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83426
[04:29] <BjornT_> jamesh, flacoste, salgado, SteveA: review meeting in a minute
[04:32] <flacoste> meeting time?
[04:32] <BjornT_> yeah, let's start the meeting
[04:33] <BjornT_> == Agenda ==
[04:33] <BjornT_> * Roll call * Next meeting * Queue status.
[04:33] <BjornT_> so, who's here for the reviewer meeting?
[04:33] <salgado> me
[04:33] <flacoste> me
[04:34] <salgado> jamesh is downstairs with niemeyer; both sprinting
[04:35] <BjornT_> thanks salgado
[04:35] <BjornT_> * Next meeting
[04:36] <BjornT_> since lifeless should be back next well, i think we'll have the next meeting (next monday) at the regular time, 1000 UTC
[04:36] <BjornT_> we talked about changing the time before, and i'll bring it up again to see if we can find a time where you guys can attend as well.
[04:36] <flacoste> ok
[04:37] <BjornT_> * Queue status
[04:38] <BjornT_> the queue currently contains 17 unreviewed branches, but i still think it looks better than last week, since there aren't many branches over the time limit
[04:38] <salgado> yeah, I have one or two over the limit, but I'll review them today
[04:39] <BjornT_> there are three really old branches, one in jamesh' queue, and two in kiko's
[04:39] <flacoste> they are all cprov branches
[04:39] <BjornT_> salgado: maybe you can ask jamesh about the reviews he has in his queue? i.e., are he going to review them soon, or should they be re-assigned?
[04:40] <salgado> cprov, are you waiting for them to review these branches or is there something blocking their review?
[04:40] <cprov> salgado: branch are ok, waiting for their review
[04:41] <flacoste> cprov there is a >5k lines patch (archive-rework) there is no way you are going to get kiko to review that!
[04:41] <salgado> BjornT_, okay, I'll talk with jamesh
[04:42] <flacoste> kiko has trouble finding the time to review a miserable 187 lines fix-it-friday patch ;-)
[04:42] <BjornT_> thanks salgado 
[04:42] <cprov> flacoste: that was a promise :), no seriously, changes are trivial and the code is already tested in dogfood
[04:43] <flacoste> ok, then keep nagging hime :-)
[04:44] <cprov> sure, james is also around. I may meet him personally before thursday to sort this out.
[04:44] <BjornT_> the rest of the branches look quite good, there are a few branches that are slightly over the time limit (assigned to jamesh, SteveA and salgado), so let's keep up the good work and try to have all branches below the limit next monday!
[04:44] <flacoste> BjornT_: i have another question for cprov
[04:45] <BjornT_> flacoste: go ahead
[04:45] <flacoste> there is another soyuz branch in needs-replys state: malcolmcleaton/launchpad/malcc-fixes
[04:45] <flacoste> who is going to handle this since malcom left?
[04:45] <cprov> flacoste: let me check
[04:45] <flacoste> that branch is 112 days old
[04:46] <cprov> flacoste: uhm, it's a fix in deathrow, with extra comments from spiv. I'll assume that too
[04:47] <flacoste> cprov: thanks
[04:47] <cprov> flacoste: np
[04:48] <flacoste> BjornT_: i am done
[04:48] <BjornT_> cprov: so that means that you will take responsibility to land it?
[04:49] <cprov> BjornT_: yes, I will deal with the review comments from spiv
[04:49] <BjornT_> cool, thanks
[04:49] <BjornT_> * Other business
[04:49] <BjornT_> any other business?
[04:50] <BjornT_> 5
[04:50] <BjornT_> 4
[04:50] <BjornT_> 3
[04:50] <BjornT_> 2
[04:50] <BjornT_> 1
[04:51] <BjornT_> ok, meeting over. thanks for coming!
[04:51] <salgado> thanks BjornT_ 
[04:53] <flacoste> thanks BjornT_
[10:28] <eamonn> hi all. I'm having a bit of trouble with a very basic aspect of launchpad. I'm trying to mirror a tiny project -- a python module -- from my own personal subversion repository to launchpad, but it hasn't worked.
[10:29] <eamonn> the project I've created is here: https://launchpad.net/itunes-export/
[10:29] <ddaa> eamonn: it needs some manual operation
[10:29] <ddaa> I'm the one operating it
[10:30] <ddaa> been very busy lately making the whole mirroring thing work better, and this stuff fell a bit on the wayside
[10:30] <ddaa> will do the maintenance right now
[10:30] <eamonn> Ah, ok. I thought it was just me. The code is at https://wiki.eamonnsullivan.co.uk/svn/itunes-export/trunk/ But launchpad is saying it got a "connection refused." 
[10:31] <ddaa> whut?
[10:31] <eamonn> Since this is literally the computer in my bedroom the likelihood of user error is high...
[10:31] <ddaa> you registered a bzr branch right?
[10:31] <ddaa> this is a svn repo
[10:31] <eamonn> I did, but that wasn't working either. So it gave me the option to mirror CVS, subversion, etc, when I set up the trunk.
[10:31] <ddaa> to get an import from svn you need to fill the svn details in a product series, typically trunk, for your project
[10:32] <ddaa> it's "Testing"
[10:32] <ddaa> meaning that I have not yet manually operated it
[10:32] <ddaa> I have a patch in the pipe that will make launchpad explain the status better
[10:33] <ddaa> on the other hand, the branch your created https://launchpad.net/~eamonn-sullivan/+branch/itunes-export/trunk is useless
[10:33] <ddaa> you should move it to the "obsolete-junk" product
[10:33] <eamonn> will do. And then what should I do?
[10:34] <ddaa> wait for the import to get done, if it fails for some reason, I will let you know
[10:34] <ddaa> the status of the product series will change to "Test Failed" if there is a problem.
[10:34] <eamonn> thanks. Trunk moved to obsolete-junk.
[10:36] <ddaa> eamonn: you should also clear the bzr branch link in https://launchpad.net/itunes-export/trunk
[10:37] <eamonn> ddaa, done. Thanks for the help!
[10:38] <ddaa> eamonn: sorry for the delay
[11:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83488 in malone "Implicitly unsubscribe bug contact when bug is Rejected" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83488
[11:43] <ddaa> eamonn: okay, your import was tested good. I set it up to run in production asap.
[11:44] <ddaa> the import system is doing a batch of updates at the moment, so it may take some time before it gets processed, but it should be online tomorrow.
[11:45] <ddaa> eamonn: the import will be updated every 24h, if you want a more frequent sync, just ask me.