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| saispo | hi | 11:02 |
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| saispo | cjwatson: when i use apt-install it's possible to disable debconf question for some packages ? | 11:03 |
| cjwatson | sure, preseed them to the appropriate values | 11:03 |
| saispo | k thanks :) | 11:04 |
| saispo | debconf/priority ? | 11:04 |
| cjwatson | huh? | 11:05 |
| saispo | debconf/priority=critical no ? | 11:05 |
| cjwatson | please be more verbose | 11:06 |
| saispo | excuse me | 11:06 |
| saispo | i use apt-install at boot for installing a base ubuntu with a metapackage | 11:07 |
| saispo | but when he try to install libpam-ldap | 11:07 |
| cjwatson | (you should probably just use pkgsel/include instead) | 11:07 |
| saispo | i have an error... | 11:07 |
| cjwatson | but go on | 11:07 |
| saispo | because it needed sorme information | 11:07 |
| saispo | and i don't want this screen | 11:08 |
| saispo | just force the pkg install whitout question | 11:08 |
| cjwatson | debconf/priority=critical means "only present questions that are asked at priority critical" | 11:09 |
| cjwatson | libpam-ldap asks questions at priority critical, at least in some situations | 11:09 |
| cjwatson | this means that a decision MUST be taken on them | 11:09 |
| cjwatson | if you don't want them presented to the user interactively, the only thing you can do is preseed them | 11:09 |
| saispo | ok | 11:09 |
| saispo | thanks | 11:09 |
| saispo | will try with this | 11:10 |
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| CIA-4 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r1843 ubiquity/ubiquity/frontend/gtkui.py: typo: self.environ -> os.environ | 02:05 |
| CIA-4 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r1844 ubiquity/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog): | 02:09 |
| CIA-4 | ubiquity: * Automatic update of included source packages: partman-partitioning | 02:09 |
| CIA-4 | ubiquity: 45ubuntu1. | 02:09 |
| CIA-4 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r1845 ubiquity/debian/changelog: minor changelog fix | 02:14 |
| tepsipakki | cjwatson: so if I preseed partman-auto/method=lvm I need to specify the disk as before? | 02:15 |
| tepsipakki | that's how it works now | 02:15 |
| cjwatson | if there's more than one disk on the system, yes | 02:17 |
| cjwatson | # If there's only one disk, then preseeding partman-auto/disk is unnecessary | 02:17 |
| cjwatson | if [ "$method" ] && [ -z "$disks" ] ; then | 02:17 |
| cjwatson | DEVS="$(get_auto_disks)" | 02:17 |
| cjwatson | if [ "$(echo "$DEVS" | wc -l)" -eq 1 ] ; then | 02:17 |
| cjwatson | disks="${DEVS%$TAB*}" | 02:17 |
| cjwatson | fi | 02:17 |
| cjwatson | fi | 02:17 |
| tepsipakki | ok, somethings wrong then | 02:18 |
| evand | cjwatson: m-a should be ready to merge today, I just have to test it in the installer after class to make sure everything still works. | 02:24 |
| cjwatson | nice, thanks | 02:25 |
| CIA-4 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r1846 ubiquity/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.3.18 | 02:28 |
| cr3 | can gfxboot be disabled when booting from the live cd? | 04:50 |
| cjwatson | hold down shift | 04:51 |
| evand | ugh, is there any way of resolving a undefined Py_InitModule4 symbol, other than using a newer daily CD? | 05:56 |
| cjwatson | um, no idea, not heard of that | 05:57 |
| evand | It keeps happening to me in various Python packages in Feisty. Unfortunately it's happening with emap.so in Ubiquity using trunk. | 05:59 |
| cjwatson | have you updated since building emap.so? | 06:00 |
| cjwatson | it's not checked in, so ... | 06:00 |
| evand | Sorry, I don't follow. Updated what? | 06:05 |
| evand | I just commented out the tzmap stuff for now as I'm just trying to test an install. | 06:13 |
| cjwatson | updated as in upgraded anything | 06:16 |
| cjwatson | or did it just fail as soon as you built it? | 06:17 |
| evand | I think it started to fail when I built it. | 06:18 |
| evand | When it happened to me with democracyplayer it eventually went away after a few upgrades. | 06:20 |
| cjwatson | truly bizarre; I don't call Py_InitModule4 directly, only Py_InitModule | 06:32 |
| cjwatson | perhaps doko can help | 06:32 |
| evand | eh, no worries. I'm sure it will resolve itself. | 06:33 |
| cjwatson | if it happens on a live CD, that would really be odd | 06:37 |
| evand | Well it did, but it was with the copy of Ubiquity that I built. It didn't happen with the version that was previously on the CD though. | 06:38 |
| cjwatson | that's *really* weird, because I often build ubiquity locally on the running live CD and it works fine | 06:42 |
| cjwatson | did you build it in the live session, or externally and copy it in? | 06:42 |
| evand | externally and copy | 06:42 |
| cjwatson | ah, so could still be a broken build system | 06:43 |
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| jharr | is this the right chan for help with automated installers? | 06:48 |
| jharr | *installs | 06:48 |
| cjwatson | yes | 06:50 |
| evand | cjwatson: it's crashing somewhere in ma_apply. I have a few things to take care of then I'll take a look at it a little later. I just wanted to keep you posted. | 06:51 |
| cjwatson | thanks | 06:51 |
| jharr | I've been trying to get automated pxe installs (feisty,amd64,20061102ubuntu13 netboot.tgz installer). | 06:55 |
| jharr | I have a preseed file going, however, since I'm hosting that on an http server (for dev purposes), I'm assuming that all the language questions have to be answered by the 'append' option. | 06:55 |
| jharr | but I've done what several tutorials have said, and it's not really working that well. | 06:56 |
| jharr | I've been using 'append vga=normal initrd=ubuntu-installer/amd64/initrd.gz preseed/locale=en_US kbd-chooser/method=us netcfg/choose_interface=eth0 netcfg/get_hostname= preseed/url=http://192.168.0.200/preseed/feisty-amd64-server --' | 06:58 |
| jharr | '/proc/cmdline shows those arguments in tact. | 06:58 |
| jharr | however I still have to answer all the language questions before it grabs the preseed/url file. | 06:59 |
| jharr | any ideas? | 06:59 |
| jharr | I know the preseed/url is making it to debconf, because it does download the preseed file (visible on VC4) when it gets the network up and running. | 07:00 |
| cjwatson | looks like your information is outdated | 07:01 |
| cjwatson | change preseed/locale to debian-installer/locale; change kbd-chooser/method to console-setup/layoutcode | 07:01 |
| cjwatson | otherwise your assumption is correct | 07:01 |
| cjwatson | s/assumption is/assumptions are/ | 07:01 |
| cjwatson | where did you get that information? it may just legitimately date from dapper or before, but otherwise I'd like to get it corrected | 07:01 |
| jharr | it was for dapper | 07:02 |
| jharr | http://halisway.blogspot.com/2006/06/ubuntu-dapper-pxe-network-install.html | 07:02 |
| jharr | got it from there | 07:02 |
| cjwatson | ok, stuff has changed since then | 07:03 |
| jharr | cool. | 07:03 |
| cjwatson | https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/preseed-contents.html is (almost) up to date for edgy | 07:03 |
| cjwatson | up to date in this respect, anyway | 07:03 |
| jharr | has much changed when going into feisty? | 07:03 |
| cjwatson | if you're using partman-auto/disk to preseed partitioning of a single disk, then you need to add 'd-i partman-auto/method string regular' to make it use regular partitioning rather than LVM or RAID or what-have-you | 07:04 |
| cjwatson | otherwise not much preseeding-wise | 07:04 |
| jharr | ahh, cool. | 07:04 |
| jharr | I'm working on a cluster here, and I want to start sticking everything we have into debian packages and just do clean installs every time. | 07:04 |
| cjwatson | sensible | 07:05 |
| jharr | yeah, it's a pretty big project because of the way things were done for a long time. | 07:05 |
| jharr | It's mostly going to be getting everyone to work that way. | 07:05 |
| jharr | Believe it or not, the way they did things before hand was to do raw installs for every client. | 07:05 |
| cjwatson | oh, I can believe it | 07:06 |
| jharr | and some of the software required makefile patches & such. | 07:06 |
| jharr | I convinced them to use systemimager after my boss asked me to install 20 new nodes. | 07:06 |
| jharr | is there a way to get the installer to spit out the choices you made into a preseed file? | 07:06 |
| jharr | I remember debian doing something like that, that left a couple of files in /root. | 07:07 |
| cjwatson | jharr: see right at the bottom of the URL I gave above | 07:58 |
| cjwatson | it will certainly preseed more than you need, though | 07:58 |
| jharr | cjwatson: yeah, that's what I was thinking. I thought the original debian installer put just the choices you made in a file, so you'd automatically have a skeliton preseed. | 08:06 |
| stgraber | debconf-get-selections I guess | 08:06 |
| stgraber | but you really have too much things preseeded | 08:06 |
| jharr | yeah, but I mean it would be nice to have the results of the install spit out just the stuff you answered. | 08:07 |
| jharr | It'd make it a lot easier for OEMs to setup their own custom installs that way. | 08:07 |
| cjwatson | I think it was removed when debconf-get-selections --installer was implemented, because at that point it was trivial to generate | 08:09 |
| cjwatson | oh, you're talking about the old /root/dbootstrap_settings perhaps | 08:09 |
| cjwatson | that definitely predates d-i and preseeding | 08:09 |
| cjwatson | you can probably filter the cdebconf database for stuff with the seen flag set | 08:10 |
| cjwatson | interestingly, the debconf db on my system does not appear to have very much at all with the seen flag set. Curious | 08:11 |
| cjwatson | shall have to investigate that at some point | 08:11 |
| jharr | oh, nice, I <3 text based DBs :D | 08:16 |
| jharr | hrmm | 08:59 |
| jharr | When I'm doing an install, how can I tell what the preseed directive is for the current prompt? | 09:02 |
| jharr | partitioning in Feisty has changed apparently and I'm looking around for the preseed options that are equivalent to edgy's | 09:02 |
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| cjwatson | jharr: boot with DEBCONF_DEBUG=5 and you'll get a trace of what debconf's doing in /var/log/syslog - look for INPUT commands | 11:46 |
| cjwatson | it may not be entirely up to date at every point due to buffering | 11:46 |
| cjwatson | jharr: the partman-auto/method thing I mentioned should be the only relevant change | 11:46 |
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