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PriceChildLjL, I give him 5 minutes... 8-)12:32
LjLPriceChild: if only it were as easy as that... i somehow doubt it ;)12:32
PriceChildhehe... yet another reason why I'm not an op :)12:33
LjLPriceChild: i'm just saying i don't think it'll be 5 minutes :P that's for the very obvious trolls12:36
PriceChildyeah suppose12:36
PriceChildslight exageration...12:36
LjLapokryphos: is that drugs or what they're talking about?12:47
apokryphosonly one I've heard of is tylenol12:48
apokryphosand I think that's like paracetamol12:48
PriceChildpain killer12:48
PriceChildasthma sufferers I think...12:48
LjLalright, i mean as long as they're talking "drugs" as in "medicine"12:48
LjL[00:50:52]  <rainwalker> apaulm: you sound like an advertisemment <- or like a boring troll12:51
tonyyarussoyeah12:51
tonyyarussoUnfortunately we don't kick for boring12:51
LjLno, but we kick for troll when it's obvious enough12:51
tonyyarussoyes12:51
LjLhope it doesn't take too long for it to be12:51
tonyyarussowaiting12:51
LjLwho's josys36 now... sigh. he found out nobody was listening to him and needed a clone? :\12:52
tonyyarussoLjL: huh?12:53
LjLnevermind, just weird-looking randomish nickname, and he immediately asked about his beer... made me think of a clone or friend12:53
LjLbut he's been in #ubuntu for a while i see12:53
tonyyarussograbbing food.  bb to watch the idiot in a moment12:56
tonyyarussoHe found a button.01:04
LjLtonyyarusso: i figured it would have been more painful01:04
tonyyarussoLjL: I only did a 10-minuter this time, but consider that plenty warning for anything.01:05
LjLtonyyarusso: queried you or shut up?01:08
tonyyarussoLjL: nothing yet01:08
LjLah wait01:08
LjLi think there's still +z set?01:08
tonyyarussoalthough, I totally thought I had prefixed that one to __mikm with /msg01:08
tonyyarussowhoop01:08
tonyyarussoyes, still +z01:08
elkbuntujosys was in ubuntu-women yesterday and said: <josys36> So where do you find these Ubuntu women?01:08
LjLso he won't notice he's muted ;)01:08
tonyyarussoLjL: ahahaa01:08
elkbuntuso, consider as a potential troll01:08
tonyyarussoeven better01:09
LjLelkbuntu: hm. then my feeling about him when he joined couldn't be *so* wrong... =)01:09
tonyyarussoLjL: why didn't we try that on you know who ages ago?01:09
LjLtonyyarusso: you know who would realize, and you know who is here for the record :P01:09
tonyyarussoI know :)01:10
LjLyou know who else has quit01:10
elkbuntuoh man... he's here?01:10
LjLlet's see josys now01:10
LjLelkbuntu: no not that one...01:10
PriceChildlol01:10
tonyyarussoLjL: And, as expected, after less than 10 minutes they get bored and quit :)01:11
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gnomefreakLjL: im betting his issue is config somewhere but since he decided to do what he did ill pass him off01:43
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gnomefreak:)02:03
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SportChick:)02:05
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tonyyarusso*!*@88.232.* still on the loose.02:49
tonyyarussoSportChick, Giuly2 [n=Giuly2@88.232.73.189 if you haven't already K-lined.02:49
LjLin our channels?02:49
LjLi think i'll ban the "-" realname... is there any clients that defaults to that?02:50
tonyyarussoLjL: No.02:50
tonyyarusso#wordpress.02:50
LjLbut wait, 88.232 itself is banned i guess02:50
tonyyarussoyep02:50
LjLthere's a codestr0m online with 88.232, and that one has gaim as realname...02:53
tonyyarussoLjL: The gaim user is okay.02:54
tonyyarussoThere are one or two legit.02:54
SportChicktonyyarusso: he was already klined02:54
tonyyarussoSportChick: 'k02:54
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effie_jayxhehe03:15
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naliothdoes anyone know of the 88.232 ip range is banned from #ubuntu ?03:39
tonyyarussonalioth: yes.03:40
tonyyarusso21:39 -!- 384 - #ubuntu: ban *!*@88.232.* [by tonyyarusso, 71170 secs ago] 03:40
mneptok20:05 DCC received CTCP SEND with invalid parameters from FartingLady03:41
mneptokpity i missed that03:41
tonyyarussonalioth: Everywhere Hobbsee or I have access, actually.03:41
mneptoki would have accepted anything FartingLady was sending03:41
Minatakurofl03:47
MinatakuEven if it was a malformed DCC?03:48
mneptokdammit! i said *anything*!03:57
mneptok:)03:57
MinatakuXD04:09
tonyyarussoCuriosity: How many channels are there larger than #ubuntu on Freenode?04:17
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elkbuntugentoo04:20
elkbuntuas in, #gentoo04:20
elkbuntuand that's by 904:20
elkbuntu#gentoo 926, #ubuntu 91704:21
tonyyarussoheh, ok04:21
tonyyarussofewer than I thought04:21
elkbuntuwtf... i just got: -Ubugtu- Error: Could not parse XML returned by Ubuntu: unbound prefix: line 28, column 804:22
elkbuntutonyyarusso, i think however that you'll find ubuntu has the overwhelmingly larger namespace ;)04:23
tonyyarussoelkbuntu: Yeah04:23
elkbuntuthen again, they seem to be working on that gap too :-/04:23
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elkbuntulawl04:24
elkbuntuwell.. they have more channels, but less in those channels04:25
elkbuntui could have sworn ubuntu was ahead of gentoo on both of those fronts.. but oh well04:26
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cablesHi, can someone test me for the exploit? I updated my router's firmware.05:01
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tonyyarussoI should do that05:38
=== Hobbsee should too...
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Madpilottonyyarusso, beat me to it in #ubuntu...06:23
tonyyarussoMadpilot: I've been watching that one since before you joined.06:23
PuMpErNiCkLeDid something exciting just happen?06:24
tonyyarussoPuMpErNiCkLe: Nah.  Regular old !language06:24
PuMpErNiCkLeah well06:25
mneptokididots.06:28
mneptokyou're ALL ididots.06:28
=== tonyyarusso kicks mneptok
SportChicktonyyarusso: you never went to sleep?06:29
mneptokthe "oomph" of calling someone an idiot is greatly tempered by an inability to type the word correctly.06:29
Madpilotnot sure about idiots, but we all volunteered as ops, so that brings our sanity into question, at least ;)06:29
tonyyarussoSportChick: Umm...06:30
tonyyarussocrud06:30
SportChickhehe06:30
tonyyarussoSportChick: It's not bad yet.  Only 00:30.06:30
SportChicktonyyarusso: must have been an hour or two ago when you said nn06:30
tonyyarussoMadpilot: Tell SportChick how often I actually go to bed for real.06:31
tonyyarusso:P06:31
tonyyarussoI was so considering it06:31
SportChickhehe tonyyarusso06:31
Madpilottonyyarusso, you have an allergy to sleep, don't you? ;)06:31
tonyyarussoBut, I'm paying attention to a Digg thing for a moment06:31
tonyyarussoMadpilot: yeah06:31
tonyyarussoGives me hives like none other06:32
mneptokSportChick: no offense, not knowing you and all, but an IRC nick with "Chick" it it seems at least masochistic, if not downright self abusive.06:32
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tonyyarusso:)06:32
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mneptokSportChick: your /msg logs must be a thing of horrific beauty.06:32
tonyyarusso/nick toniyarusso06:32
=== SportChick looks at mneptok suspiciously
tonyyarussodon't we all...06:33
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HobbseeSportChick: mneptok's a bastard, you'll have to get used to him.06:33
mneptokarr.06:33
tonyyarussoouch06:33
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=== Hobbsee doesnt think he'll ever change
mneptoktoo old.06:33
tonyyarussoWhat was the ice age like mneptok ?06:34
mneptokcold, mostly.06:34
tonyyarussoAny cute squirrels get hit by lightening?06:34
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tonyyarussoHA!06:35
Hobbseeheh06:35
=== tonyyarusso is very very amused that anyone thinks not one but TWO people can hide behind him
tonyyarussoSportChick: You don't know my measurements, do you?06:36
SportChicktonyyarusso: it's your PRESENCE that matters :)06:36
tonyyarussoaaaahh06:36
mneptoktonyyarusso: 34C?06:36
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tonyyarussomneptok: my LEG isn't even 34.06:36
Madpilotmneptok, I was waiting for something along those "lines" ;)06:36
Madpilottonyyarusso, if your legs were 34" around, I'd be... wondering what species you were, actually...06:37
tonyyarussoMadpilot: I meant long.06:37
mneptoktonyyarusso: ummm ... i should hope a single leg has a smaller circomference than does your torso ...06:37
tonyyarussomneptok: ^^06:38
mneptokcircumference, too06:38
tonyyarussoargh06:38
mneptokomg i said cum06:38
tonyyarussoFine, I'll check for you what my torso is :P06:38
mneptokin front of a *GIRL*!06:38
Madpilot@lart mneptok06:38
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mneptokmmm .... dusty.06:38
Hobbsee@lart 28 mneptok06:39
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SportChick@tonyyarusso++06:39
mneptokSportChick: short list.06:40
tonyyarussoeh, not as bad as I thought.  Guess the torso is like 32/33.06:40
SportChicklonger than the *other* list06:40
mneptoktonyyarusso: and cup size?06:40
tonyyarussoIt's waist that's the laugher.06:40
tonyyarussomneptok: non-existent.06:40
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SportChick@madpilot++06:41
SportChick@hobsee++06:41
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SportChick@mneptok--06:42
mneptokyay! i'm unique!06:42
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elkbuntuSportChick, does actioning violence on people who do not display manners count for displaying manners?07:04
SportChickelkbuntu: ?07:04
mneptokhehehehe07:04
mneptoktype it slower.07:05
Madpilotsometimes a clout on the back of the head can be a learning tool07:05
elkbuntuSportChick, if, for instance, i now do: '/me thwumps mneptok', would that be bad manners?07:05
mneptokMadpilot: running for US president?07:05
SportChickelkbuntu: given the recipient, of course not :)07:05
elkbuntuooh goodie07:06
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Madpilotmneptok, the current occupant of that office might be in need of some education, yes ;)07:06
elkbuntuMadpilot, educating someone usually implies their ability to comprehend and the brainspace the absorb information ;)07:08
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naliothand the ability to act upon the new information07:10
elkbuntunalioth, indeed07:11
=== SportChick regrets having inadvertently started this conversation
MadpilotSportChick, strange, surreal & regrettable conversations are inevitable around mneptok - it seems to be a field he generates07:25
elkbuntuSportChick, are you completely sure you're suited to this IRC environment?07:25
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elkbuntuyay, someone voted for me!07:25
tonyyarussoelkbuntu: I haven't voted yet either - thinkin' about it07:26
naliothPlease vote for ME!07:26
tonyyarusso......07:26
tonyyarussonalioth: hush up - you can't have TWO seats07:26
SportChickelkbuntu: I have my own little corner of irc carved out - I retreat there when necessary :)07:27
SportChickvote for me!07:27
mneptoki'll vote for whoever will appoint me Treasurer. or Magical Fairy Princess With A Winged Talking Unicorn And Flowers All Over Her.07:27
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elkbuntulol07:27
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elkbuntuuse it in your corner07:28
mneptok(i.e. deodorant)07:28
elkbuntubasically07:28
SportChickelkbuntu: hehe07:28
elkbuntumneptok, that is one thing i found strange at UDS... people were suprisingly hygenic07:29
elkbuntumeanwhile, by the end of LCA week... the theatres smelled like trash cans from the cumulative odor of certain people wearing the conf shirts for 5 days straight07:30
mneptokelkbuntu: nation of convicts etc etc yadda yadda ad infinitum et astra07:31
Madpilotah, convention people who don't bother bathing - glad to see that's a near-universal phenom...07:31
mneptokwhen one of the compositing managers allows people to set the flying toasters as their desktop, Linux will have officially jumped the shark.07:37
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mneptokTonight - Flurries ending this evening then clearing. Wind southwest 20 km/h. Low minus 21. Cold  wind chill minus 3008:30
mneptokwhy did i move here?08:30
Madpilotskiing?08:46
mneptokwell, the night schedule sorta prevents that, so .... :/08:47
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elkbuntumneptok, x-r00t-x is a known, i've got kb poised09:39
=== mneptok nods
elkbuntugah, dinner. if either he or concept10 gives attitude, you've got my support to injure their egos09:42
jendaelkbuntu: don't we have a 'no drunks' sign on the door to #ubuntu?09:42
jendanow wasn't there a mode that wouldn't let anyone with over 0.05% in their blood...09:43
Seveaswarning09:58
Seveasconcept10 incoming here09:58
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concept10mneptok, why did you ban me09:58
mneptokconcept10: because i warned you repeatedly to stop certain behavior, and you chose to ignore those warnings.09:59
concept10you didnt warn me, I didnt do anything that warrants a warning10:00
Seveasconcept10, please get sober before joining #ubuntu10:00
concept10I only asked that you stop messaging me and you kick/banned me10:00
mneptokconcept10: i did not send you private messages. i addressed you on a public channel.10:01
concept10Seveas, I was kidding, I get kick/banned for this reason10:01
mneptokconcept10: if you do not want to be spoken to on a public channel, do not /join a public channel.10:01
Seveasconcept10, you were misbehahaving, that's why you were banned afaics10:01
Seveasbut I didn't see all of what happened10:02
concept10mneptok, I did nothing that warrants a ban.  You have to wake up10:02
concept10mneptok, does that warrant a ban if I say do not talk to me?10:02
concept10You have got to be kidding me10:02
mneptokconcept10: such remarks only serve to further my belief that the ban was warranted.10:03
concept10mneptok, Please dont abuse ops10:03
concept10I did nothing to anyone in the channel10:03
concept10including you10:03
Seveasconcept10, please don't drink & misbehave on irc...10:03
concept10Seveas, please look at the log10:03
concept10I did not say anything hurtful to anyone10:04
concept10look at the log yourself10:04
SeveasI did10:04
mneptok03:41 < concept10> SurfnKid, Did I ask your input, kid>10:04
Seveasyou ask offtopic things and pick on people who answer10:04
Seveasand you're drunk10:04
Seveasand bragging about it10:04
Seveassober up, then rejoin10:05
concept10Seveas, come on.  I have been around this community since the start, and this is what I get for someone asking me something crazy?10:05
concept10This isnt right10:06
Seveasconcept10, even people who have been around for a long time still have to behave10:06
mneptokwhat crazy thing did someone ask you?10:06
concept10He asked me something crazy, I responded crazy, do you ban everyone for that reason?10:07
mneptokconcept10: and for the record, if Seveas asks me to stop certain behavior, i do. regardless of my connection to Ubuntu.10:07
jendaconcept10: you were disrespectful towards other inhabitants of the channel.10:07
concept10No, you banned me because I told you to stop addressing me10:07
concept10he was disrespectful towards me10:07
jendaconcept10: and, you were off topic.10:07
concept10Who decides the disrespect?10:07
jenda<concept10> anyone here under 25 years old>10:07
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jendaconcept10: to be honest, the operators do.10:08
concept10Offtopic, I agree10:08
jendaconcept10> SurfnKid, Did I ask your input, kid>10:08
concept10did I do something worth banning? No.10:08
jendadisrespectful?10:08
jenda<concept10> sorry, im superbowl party drunk10:08
jendadrunk.10:08
mneptokconcept10: i banned you because you were rude to SurfnKid, denied being rude when warned by elkbuntu, and then repeatedly told me to stop speaking to you. if you want ops to treat you with respect, show a little yourself.10:08
concept10jenda, kid - was a play on his name10:09
concept10how am I supposed to know your ops10:09
elkbuntuconcept10, there are 4 ops here that have agreed that your actions were inexcusable. arguing is not going to get you any further. the ban will likely be for only 24 hours, by which time your BAC will have abated and you will have recovered from the hangover.10:09
concept10I only asked for you to stop talking to me10:09
concept10No more arguing10:10
Seveasconcept10, that attitude is so horribly wrong10:10
concept10I like Ubuntu10:10
Seveasyou have to respect everybody, not just ops10:10
mneptokconcept10: you don't know who are ops. you treat *everyone* with a degree of respect.10:10
concept10Seveas, has helped me much in the past10:10
elkbuntuconcept10, for future "/cs access #channel list" will help you10:10
concept10I just think the ban is too much10:11
jendaconcept10: it's only 24 hours.10:11
elkbuntuconcept10, consider it cooling off time, and go cool off10:11
mneptokconcept10: and clearly the ops disagree.10:11
jendaconcept10: quite reasonable, considering you're drunk.10:11
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concept10I would agree too if I was ops10:11
Seveasconcept10, you're on wafer thin ice there10:11
concept10jenda, you dont know if im drunk or lying10:11
mneptokconcept10: arguing about it only makes me look really, REALLY smart for banning you. and you don't want that, do you ... ? ;)10:11
concept10Im sorry10:12
concept10Im not trying to argue10:12
concept10but I have to defend myself10:12
mneptokand yet you are.10:12
elkbuntuconcept10, go enjoy the party you're at10:12
concept10I cant let someone tell me whatever they want to10:12
mneptokor go draw the word "mneptok" on a blank piece of paper and then pee on it out by the shed.10:13
jendaAren't people allowed to say whatever they want?10:13
mneptokthat would be cathartic.10:13
concept10mneptok, Yes. You are really smart.  You made a good decision for the community.  Thanks for you support10:13
jenda...unless it's against the medium policies...10:13
concept10Maybe I went overboard, maybe by "        "   banning, ---->  overboard10:14
concept10its useless trying to argue my point here10:14
Seveasconcept10, we're going in circles here. I suggest that you stop10:14
elkbuntuconcept10, sorry, but you're not gaining any ground whatsoever. just go enjoy the party you're at10:14
Tm_T:)10:14
concept10Seveas, I respect you. I will stop10:14
concept10Thanks Seveas10:15
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Tm_Tconcept10: Have fun in irc'n'life. :)10:15
Tm_TYes, those two can be in one sentence. ;)10:16
Seveaslife?10:16
Seveaswhat's that?10:16
jendaTm_T: fun and life in one sentence?10:16
Tm_TSeveas: Irc is life, didn't you know?10:16
jendaoh10:16
jendain that case...10:16
Tm_T;)10:16
mneptokSeveas: what happens between a pnigout and reconnect.10:16
concept10Seveas, so he can crack on me and I cant do the same?10:16
jendamneptok: I totally hate those times... and they happen very often lately, too.10:17
Tm_Tconcept10: IF you hava arguments against his arguments.10:17
Seveasmneptok, ah, you mean coffee :)10:17
Tm_Tconcept10: It's not arguing contest.10:17
concept10OPS > USER10:17
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Tm_T:/10:17
Seveasconcept10, I asked you nicely to stop, multiple times10:17
Tm_TI'm normal user, atleast I think I am.10:17
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jenda<twitch>10:17
Seveassince that's clearly not working, I have to mute10:18
Tm_TI just have to take responsibility to keep peace where I am pointed to.10:18
=== mneptok tried :/
=== Seveas hugs mneptok
Tm_TAnyway, I wish fun moments in irc to you all guys, now some car racing in public street. ->10:18
Tm_T(Taking mom to tax office)10:19
Madpilotmneptok, no cloak this morning?10:23
mneptokMadpilot: i never have one.10:24
Madpilotno? I thought you used to run with montreal.canonical.something?10:24
SeveasMadpilot, that's an actual hostename :)10:25
mneptoknot a cloak10:25
Madpilotah10:25
mneptokcloaks use / not .10:25
mneptok(afaik)10:25
Madpilotlooked cloakish, no great string of alphanumerics like most IPs10:25
elkbuntureverse dns lookup can do that10:26
elkbuntuiir10:26
elkbuntuiirc*10:26
mneptoki should prolly petition to get myself the @magical/fairy/princess cloak10:27
elkbuntuthat would be.. interesting10:27
mneptokcheck your zipper. your UNBRIDLED SPITEFUL JEALOUSY is showing.10:29
mneptok*muah*10:29
jendamneptok: just have a look at nal.ioth's cloak for "." :)10:33
jendamneptok: btw, would you like a cloak?10:33
Seveasjenda, the magical fairy one :)10:33
mneptokhehehe10:34
jenda10:34
Seveasjenda, or ubuntu/pony/woody :)10:34
jendahehe :)10:34
mneptokjenda: ah. seems '.' is only used within descriptor-ish fields for cloaked hosts10:34
jendaSeveas: you know that I can take that as a GC request, right? :)10:34
jendamneptok: actually, it's when you have multiple cloaks. And only sometimes at that :)10:35
Seveasjenda, unfortunately I'm not allowed to give him a pony10:35
mneptokSeveas: did i ever show you the e-mail i sent to the internal mailing list when the pony announcement was made? :)10:35
jendadamn.10:35
Seveasmneptok, no10:35
mneptoksec ....10:36
jendaI should've just done it when I had your 'authorization'...10:36
Seveasjenda, give him the cloak for now and remov it in a few hours ;)10:36
jendathe pony? :)10:36
Seveasyeah10:36
Seveasubuntu/pony/woodt10:36
Seveaswoody*10:37
jendahaha...10:37
jendaalright10:37
mneptokhttp://birdhouse.org/pony.txt10:37
mneptokbah. perms. sec.10:37
elkbuntuim good at that trick too10:37
mneptokdone10:37
SeveasHard Luck10:38
SeveasSorry, the page you requested: /pony.txt10:38
Seveasdoes not exist on birdhouse.org.10:38
mneptokgumh10:38
mneptokhttp://birdhouse.org/~mnep/pony.txt10:38
mneptokthere we go :)10:38
Seveasroflol10:39
elkbuntuSeveas, it is truely a roflcopter moment10:39
Seveasit is indeed10:39
mneptoki was .... excited.10:40
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jendastylus?10:41
jenda10:41
Seveasmneptok, that's an understatement :)10:41
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stylusHey jenda :)10:41
stylusI see  as a box. :o10:41
elkbuntumneptok, excited in an innocent schoolgirl way, right?10:41
Madpilotstylus, which IRC app are you using?10:42
mneptokSeveas: mark the occasion well. "mneptok" and "understatement" in the same setanece will have a lot of people questioning your ability to reason clearly. ;)10:42
stylusmIRC, atm. That explains why. ;)10:42
jendaSeveas: it seems the pony is just inaccessible ;)10:42
Seveasjenda, ?10:43
jendaI can't get anyone to turn it on :)10:43
Seveasheh10:43
elkbuntujenda, no response or a no response?10:43
jendaGot a response.10:44
jendaOne cloak coming.10:44
jenda:)10:44
elkbuntuyay10:44
mneptokhttp://mneptok.com/pony-cd-cover.jpg should convince them of my seriousness10:44
mneptok:)10:44
jenda* [mneptok]  (n=mneptok@ubuntu/pony/woody/mneptok): Kurt von Finck10:45
mneptokwheee!10:45
elkbuntubwahah10:45
mneptokFreenode gave me a Woody!10:45
elkbuntublog time mneptok10:45
elkbuntuoh... dear10:45
jendamneptok: not at all - freenode gives you whatever Seveas asks for ;)10:45
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jendahappened to me twice this year.10:46
jenda:)10:46
jendamy chair has 4 bolts which hold it in  place... two are gone... and the remaining two loosen slowly, and whenever one of them falls out, the chair collapses to one side or the other :)10:47
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mneptokholy cow! an EtienneG!10:47
EtienneGmneptok, Seveas had me check your whois info10:48
elkbuntuEtienneG, you didnt hurt yourself falling off your chair did you?10:48
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mneptokEtienneG: my reputation seems not only to proceed me, but do so in measurements of light years.10:48
EtienneGno ... I was kind of expecting it, actually10:49
elkbuntuEtienneG, then you'd also be expecting: <mneptok> Freenode gave me a Woody!10:49
EtienneGstill a pretty good one, anyway :)10:50
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mneptoktime to go downstairs for a smoke, and to awaken the security guard.10:51
mneptok:/10:51
elkbuntuawakening security is always a good idea10:51
elkbuntuas is a smoke, afk also10:52
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Tm_T@karma tm_t01:44
Tm_THmm.01:44
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Hobbseenalioth: rob ping?02:39
Hobbseeonly one regular person has ops in -bugs - that needs fixing.02:39
Hobbsee+ -meeting02:39
apokryphos-devel doesn't have many ops, too02:41
Hobbseeindeed02:41
Hobbseewhich one?02:41
gnomefreakbtw there is a !staff trigger now for in here iirc02:42
apokryphos#u-devel ; I'd say #kubuntu-devel is probably ok02:42
apokryphosheh02:42
apokryphos!search staff02:42
ubotuFound: staff-#ubuntu-ops, staff*02:42
apokryphos!staff*02:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about staff* - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:43
apokryphoshm02:43
Seveas(the * means deleted)02:43
Seeker`how do you add freenode staff to the channel access list?02:43
Seveas!info apokryphos edgy02:43
ubotuPackage apokryphos does not exist in edgy02:43
apokryphosSeeker`: add *@freenode/staff/*02:43
gnomefreakok lied used to have !staff02:43
Seveas!find Hobbsee dapper02:43
apokryphosok, cool02:43
Seveas^!staff stil exist, but only in here02:43
ubotuPackage/file hobbsee does not exist in dapper02:44
gnomefreakah02:44
gnomefreakdamn no hobbsee package :(02:44
Hobbseeapokryphos: ah yes.  i did get ops in that02:44
Seveas!ubotu02:44
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots02:44
Seveas!02:44
apokryphosSeveas: might be a good idea to have a way to view the deleted factoid02:44
Seveasapokryphos, undelete it :)02:44
HobbseeSeveas: can you give some of the regulars ops in -bugs, please?02:44
Seveassire02:44
Seveassure*02:44
Seveasnot now, am in class02:45
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apokryphospay attention!02:45
HobbseeSeveas: heh.02:45
Seeker`What level are you meant to add them at?02:46
PriceChild10?02:46
gnomefreakanything under 10 is pretty much useless02:47
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PriceChildmneptok, how much xp you got? :)02:47
Seveashe has vista02:48
PriceChildSeveas, pay attention! :)02:48
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mneptokPriceChild: already upgraded to Vista Home Consumer Desktop Media Basic Upgrade Edition.02:48
PriceChildewwwwww :)02:48
apokryphosSeeker`: you can /cs level #channel list to get a run down of the different levels02:48
Hobbseemneptok: you insane thing.02:48
Hobbsee@lart mneptok02:49
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apokryphosSeeker`: only real difference between 10 and 25+ is use of the CLEAR command. Ops 30 or above can add new ops02:49
Seeker`apokryphos: I was just wondering what level freenode staff should be added to the channel as02:49
apokryphosSeeker`: oh, same as any other ops in the channel. Below 30 though.02:49
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apokryphosSeeker`: what channel is that?02:51
Hobbsee@lart mneptok for missing02:51
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Seeker`apokryphos: #ubuntu-scribes02:51
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apokryphosSeeker`: note that there's no difference between 10 and 15 :P02:52
apokryphosor 10-1902:52
Seeker`shoudl there be?02:52
apokryphosnope02:52
apokryphosjust noticed you had one person on 10, and one 1502:52
Seeker`15 allows akick modification02:53
apokryphoswhy would you use akick though?02:53
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apokryphosautomatically kick when they enter the channel02:54
Seeker`i dont know :P02:54
Hobbseeahhh02:54
apokryphosno point in it, really.02:54
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apokryphosif you don't want them in the channel then ban them :P02:54
Hobbseeakicking would be *far* more fun :)02:55
Seeker`what does that clear command do?02:55
apokryphosSeeker`: see /cs help clear02:55
apokryphosi.e. for clearing all bans, or removing all users from the channel, etc02:55
Seeker`cool02:55
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PriceChildwow that clear is powerful... :P02:56
apokryphosSeeker`: it's also the one way to kick staffers :P02:56
Hobbseeneat02:56
mneptokHobbsee: if you can find a client that automatically accepts invites, setting a bot to /invite and then akick *really* massages that sadist streak.02:56
Hobbseemneptok: heh02:56
Seeker`mneptok: and then hope the user has auto-rejoin enabled02:57
apokryphoswho here has autorejoin enabled? ;-)02:57
mneptok"if you can find a client that automatically accepts invites"  ;)02:57
Seeker`mneptok: If they have autorejoin after kick enabled, you only need to issue one invite02:58
apokryphoswhere's GazzaK when you need him :P02:58
Seeker`heh02:58
Hobbseeapokryphos: hahaha02:58
Seeker`it seems quiet without him around02:58
Hobbseemneptok: that's Seveas, right?02:58
mneptokthat who?02:59
Seeker`apokryphos: Maybe its an experiment we need to save for when he reappears next week02:59
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Hobbseeer, that was to apokryphos03:00
HobbseeSeveas: PAY ATTENTION!  *cracks whip*03:00
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PriceChild:)03:01
Kamping_Kaiser:|03:01
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HobbseeSeveas: to your lecture!  duh.03:01
Seveasit's boring03:02
SeveasI already know what he's saying03:02
HobbseeSeveas: then you can do the ops :)03:02
mneptokHobbsee: you have a banana peel and an old newspaper stuck to your butt.03:02
Hobbseemneptok: you've got the wrong girl03:02
mneptokHobbsee: i meant "when i think of you"03:02
Hobbsees/you/my girlfriend/g03:03
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apokryphosthere03:03
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mneptokand you don't even need the invite.03:04
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Kamping_Kaiserthis is floody03:04
Hobbseemneptok: how's this for evil?03:04
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mneptokHobbsee: hold me.03:04
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Hobbseeright, now we can gossip about seveas, anyway :P03:04
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PriceChildLol....03:04
PriceChildlol03:04
apokryphos[14:00:12]  ChanServ [ChanServ@services.] : [Seveas]  was not found on the autoremove list for #ubuntu-ops03:04
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apokryphosI don't know why it''s enforcing it still03:04
Hobbseenow you've killed it!03:04
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PriceChildOh dear....03:05
effie_jayx:O03:05
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Seeker`Help! I think we need an op in here!03:05
Kamping_Kaiserhappy ?03:05
apokryphosSeveas: well wasn't that a fun parade03:05
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Seeker`oh...wait...03:05
Hobbseeapokryphos: how'd you do that?03:06
SportChickawww who banned Seveas?!? :(03:06
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Hobbseeheya SportChick03:06
apokryphosHobbsee: with autorem. I don't recommend anyone use it who has that script enabled :P03:06
gnomefreakSportChick: who hell more important how03:06
Hobbseeheh03:06
apokryphosautorem automatically uses the person's mask I see if they try to join with a given nick03:07
Seveashmm, someone needs to have his access removed03:07
apokryphosI vote for Seveas ;-)03:07
apokryphos:O03:07
mneptokooo! me! ME! FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PICK ME!03:07
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Hobbseedamn, too slow03:08
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mneptokwait ....03:09
mneptok*sigh*03:09
Hobbsee@ubuntu/pony/woody/mneptok?03:09
Hobbseeinteresting...03:09
PriceChildHobbsee, I asked that a few minutes ago :)03:09
mneptoki wore it just for you.03:09
Hobbseenice :)03:09
apokryphosSeveas: demoted? :O03:09
mneptokit shows off my pony, *and* my woody.03:09
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Seveasapokryphos, 10 is normal :)03:10
mneptokyean, says the person always shaking her "long stick" at us.03:10
Seveasonly irc council should have more ;p03:10
apokryphosSeveas: me and Hobbsee have 30 since we're super #kubuntu contacts03:10
HobbseeSeveas: when does that get decided?03:10
Kamping_Kaisermneptok, her+long stick? what are you insinuating :S03:11
SeveasHobbsee, when does what get decided?03:11
Hobbseeapokryphos: yes, but i think we should get it everywehre :P03:11
HobbseeSeveas: irc council03:11
mneptokKamping_Kaiser: do i have to DCC you a map?03:11
Seveasnext wednesday03:11
mneptok;)03:11
Seveaswhen I have all votes03:11
HobbseeSeveas: as in, tomorrow?03:11
Hobbseeor as in 8+ days?03:11
Kamping_Kaisermneptok, quite likely.03:11
Seveas8+03:11
Hobbseeright03:11
apokryphosSeveas: anyone who can add new ops to the team should have it, really03:11
Seveassorry :)03:11
apokryphosautoremove can actually be useful, I've decided03:11
Seveasapokryphos, and only the council can add ops to the team :)03:12
apokryphosfor someone evading a ban by using different IPs, it can automatically ban all of those IPs it tries to use03:12
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mneptokoh.03:12
Hobbseemneptok: my Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  is not attached to me.  duh03:13
apokryphosSeveas: perhaps we'll wait till those things are clarified, because me and Hobbsee can add ops for #kubuntu03:13
apokryphosi.e. and "It is generally encouraged to add only council-approved operators to access lists of channels, but a channel contact person is free to add other operators at his discretion."03:14
Seeker`what is a channel contacT?03:24
apokryphoswe abuse the term, really03:24
apokryphosstrictly speaking, it's the person in /cs info #channel03:24
apokryphosbut we use the term to often mean someone who has authority enough to i.e. add new ops in a channel, too03:24
apokryphosa group contact would be someone who ultimately has control for #channel*03:25
Hobbsee!seen haggai03:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about seen haggai - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:29
PriceChildsomething's broken.... :P03:29
Hobbseeoh.  does exist.03:29
Seveasseen has been removed03:29
Seveasuse seenserv03:29
Seveas/ss seen haggai03:29
Hobbseeyes, i did.03:29
Hobbsee(afterwards)03:30
Seveas/seenserv seen haggai03:30
Seveas/ss goes to statsserv, useless03:30
Hobbseeheh03:30
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Hobbseenight all!03:32
Seeker`night03:32
Seeker`apokryphos: So group contact is the person that registered the channel, and channel contact is anyone who can modify the access list?03:33
PriceChildnight meanie03:34
PriceChildSeeker`, group contact is like sev eas for ubuntu...03:34
PriceChildhe "owns" all #ubuntu* channels03:35
Seeker`ah, ok. i get you now03:35
PriceChildhowever some channels have their own group contact, like #ubuntuforums has zenwhen03:35
AmaranthPriceChild: no, #ubuntuforums has Sevea^s03:44
PriceChildargh sorry03:44
PriceChildi meant channel contact03:45
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bronsonapokryphos: how can I test?05:36
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apokryphosbronson: ok, you're good to go.05:50
apokryphosyou can join #ubuntu now05:50
bronsonapokryphos: thanks.05:51
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Murf__Can I get some help getting these ports changed over?? :-)05:53
naliothwhat kind of help, Murf__ ?05:53
Murf__I'm following the instructions in FixDCCExploit for XChat, but it's not going well.05:53
Murf__I can't find the GUI where I'm supposed to be changing this stuff.05:54
Murf__The instructions say go to X-chat > server list etc, but I'm not finding that menu anywhere.05:55
apokryphosnetwork list, then? What else is in that menu?05:55
ubotuIn ubotu, thespirit said: what way is it dangerous?05:55
apokryphos!bot > thespirit05:56
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Murf__The only thing that comes close is the Freenode Channel LIst GUI but it doesn't give me an offer to edit anything.05:57
naliothhow do you connect to the server, Murf__ ?05:57
Murf__From the Freenode Channel List, which pops up the thing I'm typing in now, also with no edit options.05:58
apokryphosMurf__: what's in your xchat menu?05:58
Murf__Hold on a sec. THis is my first day on this system...complete noob.05:58
naliothapokryphos: he's using xchat-GNOME05:58
naliothno wonder it aint working05:59
Murf__haha05:59
apokryphosAmaranth: how would you do it there?05:59
Amaranthdo what?05:59
Amaranthsorry, really busy05:59
apokryphoschange the port to 800105:59
Murf__There are instructions for XChat Gnome at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit05:59
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Murf__But they don't seem quite right05:59
apokryphosnalioth: xchat gnome has tree view for channels06:00
Amaranthedit->preferences06:00
Amaranthnetworks in the left side06:00
apokryphosthis should be added/changed in the Wiki06:00
Amaranthdouble click on freenode on the right06:00
naliothapokryphos: i'm aware of what is it (and what it isn't)06:00
Amaranthclick the servers tab06:00
apokryphosnalioth: tree views is good :P06:01
Amaranthchange irc.freenode.net to irc.freenode.net/800106:01
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Murf__Got it!06:03
apokryphosok, now reconnect with it06:04
Murf__ok. thanks06:04
apokryphosok, updated the wiki06:04
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apokryphosnot fixed06:05
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apokryphosMurf: it wasn't fixed. Are you sure you're connecting on 8001?06:06
Murflet me go back and check that screen to see what it says.06:06
apokryphosok06:06
naliothMurf: are you using xchat-gnome by choice or just because it was there?06:07
Murfthe server tab says 8001, so that at least took...but I'll rejoin...06:08
MurfWell, it's just what was there. What would you recommend?06:08
naliothregular xchat06:08
apokryphosif you're connecting on 8001 it should be fine06:08
apokryphostry reconnecting with that06:08
MurfIs regular XChat another package I need to install or can I just call it up from the terminal???06:09
MurfI'm not seeing any menu option for it.06:10
apokryphosyou would have to install it; don't worry about that for now though06:10
naliothi suspect you'll need to install it using your favorite apt frontend06:10
somerville32Murf: You also have to enable Universe.06:10
MurfHow do I enable Universe?06:11
nalioth!tell Murf about multiverse06:12
naliothMurf: while you're there, enable multiverse too06:12
naliothyou'll get about 30,000 more programs to choose from06:12
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MurfI really appreciate the help. I just installed Ubuntu yesterday and had a really cool bonfire with my XP cd's.06:17
naliothhopefully you were upwind06:19
SportChickohhh06:20
SportChickMurf: hehe, that reminded me of this (compliments of jenda): http://media1.yourdailymedia.com/files/vistainstallation.wmv06:22
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MurfSportchick, that's funny. The URL has changed a little though if anybody else is interested. Just search for Vista INstallation at www.yourdailymedia.com06:28
SportChickheh06:28
effie_jayxSportChick,  http://youtube.com/watch?v=FVbf9tOGwno ;)06:30
SportChickeffie_jayx: excellent :)06:31
SportChickty06:31
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hoarycripplehi I was forwarded here after fixing the DCC exlpoit.  I'm now connected to freenode via port 8001.  can I join #ubuntu again?06:41
apokryphoshoarycripple: one sec, you will be tested06:41
apokryphoshoarycripple: ok, you're good to go06:41
hoarycripplethanks, can I now auto join or do I need to come back here?06:42
apokryphosyou can join #ubuntu directly now06:42
hoarycripplethank you.06:42
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Mezapokryphos, /msg test?06:42
apokryphosa /ctcp dcc test06:42
apokryphosthey always expose the vulnerability if it's there06:43
apokryphostesting in a plain channel doesn't always do it06:43
Mezapokryphos, I thought it was only through a channel message it worked?06:43
apokryphosnope. In fact, sometimes a channel message *won't* work, but a /ctcp to the user will.06:43
apokryphoson some routers, anyway06:44
naliothMez: some of the firmware upgrades don't address the problem06:44
Mez/ctcp user DCC <insert crud here> ????06:44
apokryphosdcc send, at least06:46
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ubotuIn ubotu, LjL said: !no webcam is <reply> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras07:30
PriceChildidentify!!! :)07:31
LjLalright, ubotu identifies me by hostmask now, i'll stop doing this :P07:31
gnomefreakSeveas: when you get a minute, can we get ubugtu to track mozilla's bug tracker? we have a maintainer for mozilla from debian and he thinks he /win 2007:32
gnomefreakhe would like it* - /win 2007:33
Seveas/win 20?07:33
Seveasmozilla bug 112307:33
UbugtuMozilla bug 1123 in Aurora/RDF BE "8bit characters in TITLE tag, UTF8" [Normal,Verified: fixed]  http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=112307:33
gnomefreakthats to switch windows07:33
gnomefreakah ok07:33
Seveashas been in there for a while now07:34
gnomefreaka couple days. i didnt know he was the new maintainer till this morning07:34
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gnomefreakhe just told me he meant shorter command but i think thats a bit harder like bz#<bugnumber>07:35
gnomefreakhes happy with it just the way it is :)07:35
gnomefreakignore me ive been working too hard07:35
apokryphosyou can have it as "bug somenumber" if you want07:36
apokryphosSeveas would just need to change the snarfTarget for you, in that channel07:36
Seveasgnomefreak, 'bug XXX' does malone, can't have it do mozilla bugzilla as well07:36
apokryphosok, I'm out07:36
Seveasyou have to choose :)07:36
gnomefreakk07:36
gnomefreakwe can leave it :)07:37
gnomefreak.win 2007:37
Seveasand being the ubuntu team, i'd say you need malone as default07:37
gnomefreakdamn07:37
SportChickhehe gnomefreak ...I do that all the time07:38
gnomefreakSeveas: thats fine07:38
Seveasm bug 12312307:39
Seveasmo bug 12312307:39
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gnomefreak@schedule new_york07:44
UbugtuSchedule for America/New_York: 05 Feb 15:00: Mozilla Team | 07 Feb 07:00: Edubuntu | 08 Feb 11:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 11 Feb 17:00: LoCo Teams | 13 Feb 11:00: Forum Council | 13 Feb 15:00: Technical Board07:44
gnomefreakabout time07:44
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maxamillionhiya PriceChild07:58
PriceChildHello :)07:58
Mez!search involved08:02
ubotuFound:08:02
Mezwheres th "getting involved" page08:02
somerville32!involve08:02
somerville32err..08:02
somerville32:/08:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about involve - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:02
Mezhttp://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate?highlight=%28contribute%2908:04
Mez!contribute08:04
ubotuTo contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate08:04
jenda* automatix (n=automati@unaffiliated/automatix) has joined #ubuntu-es08:08
jendaWTF!!!08:08
LjLthere's just talking about automatix now in #ubuntu...08:08
LjLactually, arguing against it not being bad08:08
maxamillion.....08:09
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LjLactually, there's automatix trolls to the attack en masse, i'd say08:11
jendaSeveas: was I wrong in thinking the IRC council was officially recognised by the CC?08:11
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Seveasjenda, for now yes08:11
SeveasI want to get it governance/processes working before going to the CC08:12
jendaok08:13
ompaul05:00 UTC I shall send you all some snores for that one ;-)08:17
ompaulI will be fast asleep08:17
ompaulperhaps that is a good thing :)08:18
Tm_THi kids.08:20
ompaulthat I doubt08:22
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ompaulyou're even08:23
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MezSeveas, surely, as the "IRC team" is recognised as an entity by the CC, then the management is up to that team, meaning the IRC council is recognised08:24
jendaSeveas: you think you could join #ubuntu-es?08:25
Seveasjenda, not for a meting08:25
jendawhy not?08:25
Seveasno time08:26
jendaok08:27
jendaPelicano is there, and 1, he can voice himself in the moderated channel where jono is trying to speak, 2, he refuses to speak english.08:27
jendabut meh08:27
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effie_jayxjenda... i don't think they are bing fair with Pelicano08:31
effie_jayxbut that's just me08:31
jendaeffie_jayx: ok08:31
Mezjenda, Is bueno the translator?08:31
jendaeffie_jayx: I can't know, really - but I've heard many complaints about him, and he has been very impolite to me, personally.08:31
jendaMez: no idea.08:31
effie_jayxjenda... mmm I see...08:31
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gnomefreak.win 2008:55
Mezhmm08:55
MezI need ops in here08:55
Mezor at least the ability to use /invite08:56
PriceChildDon't we all Mez ;)08:57
Mez!pastebin08:57
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)08:57
Mezchanserv is down!09:00
PriceChildMez, shh :)09:01
PriceChildfine for me..09:01
Mezlaggy09:01
PriceChildlol09:01
Mezompaul, now that's customer service09:03
MezI think thats the first time I've seen a user respond to the ops in the correct manner09:03
ompaul:)09:03
Mezcept for the09:04
Mez!repeat09:04
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience09:04
effie_jayxjenda: tough meeting there...09:07
jendagah.09:07
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jendaeffie_jayx: which loco are you from?09:07
effie_jayxjenda: the loco structure is not well understood in latin america09:07
effie_jayxvenezuela09:08
jendacool.09:08
jendaI'm writing jono an email.09:08
jendayou think you could give me a few comments on it?09:08
effie_jayxok we can discuss later... I guess..09:08
effie_jayxsure...09:08
jendawhat's your email?09:08
effie_jayxefrain@ubuntu.org.ve09:08
jendasent09:09
effie_jayxcool09:09
effie_jayxmruiz and I were discussing this earlier.. the locos in latin america lack structure... basic IRC, Mailing list, Web09:10
jendaindeed.09:10
effie_jayxthe argentina team just got their IRC together... they are spread all over the IRC09:11
naliothompaul: jzl seems to be a paste-a-holic09:11
ompaulaye09:11
=== somerville32 just found a cool trick.
somerville32If you press (left) alt, shift, then num lock, you can control your mouse with the numberpad09:16
PriceChildhaha09:19
PriceChildI can't figure out right click09:20
TheSheepsomerville32: reading the mailing list? :)09:20
somerville32lol09:20
somerville32I can't figure out right click either09:20
somerville32TheSheep: :)09:20
TheSheepsomerville32: 509:21
somerville325 is just a click09:21
somerville32Oh wait09:21
somerville32Maybe it shift 5?09:21
TheSheep0 is just a click09:21
somerville32Then it isn't working right09:21
somerville325 isn't giving me context menus09:22
TheSheepsomerville32: works for me09:22
TheSheepsorry, + is normal click09:22
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TheSheep0 seemsto be that drag-and drop lock09:22
somerville32It isn't working for me09:22
MagicFabelkbuntu, or any other ops around ?09:23
somerville32MagicFab: Whats up? :)09:23
MagicFabsorry to bother again, but repeated language abuse on #ubuntu-lat09:23
MagicFabI've repeatedly warned against it, many other users have been invited by its op and are finding this ubuntu channel with people cursing and acting up on it.09:24
MagicFabbrb09:26
jendaSeveas: ping?09:37
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MagicFabIt's a recurring problem and some users are just bragging about registering other ubuntu- channels where it's safe to assume the language abuse will continue - just evading any members capability to remind of the CoC09:41
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LjLi read that "growls at ljl"...09:43
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SportChickhehe LjL09:45
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LjLwhat about #ubuntu-lat? i suppose only Sevas can do something about that if there's no local ops present?09:46
naliothLjL: do they need ops in #ubuntu-lat now?09:51
naliothwhat do you mean by "local ops" ?09:51
Seveasjenda, ?09:52
LjLnalioth: their own ops. see magicfab above09:52
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NafalloSeveas: !09:52
Nafalloany other freenode staff09:53
Nafallo?!09:53
jendaSeveas: I spoke to pelicano, about that channel-set-to-private, and all I can get out of him is that you agreed with it, and that he will change it if you ask him to.09:53
jendaNafallo?09:53
Seveaswtf09:53
Nafallothree users just got klined09:53
SportChickNafallo: ?09:53
Seveashe's lying09:53
NafalloI wanna know why09:53
Nafalloozamosi, Bobcat and LadyFrost09:54
Seveasjenda, but I'm sure the +s is the least of the problems there09:54
jendaSeveas: the above regarding #ubuntu-es, which is set to private.09:54
jendaYes, Seveas, that's true.09:54
Seveas!staff09:54
ubotuHey nalioth, jenda, rob or SportChick! I could use a bit of your time :)09:54
Seveas:)09:54
Nafalloall of them good members of Ubuntu Sweden09:54
SportChickSeveas: :p09:54
Nafallohaha09:54
SeveasSportChick, fix it09:54
SeveasNOW! :)09:54
jendahehe09:54
Seveasjenda, but I'm sure the +s is the least of the problems there <-- I meant #ubuntu-es as well09:54
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SportChickNafallo: what is the hostname?09:55
jendaSeveas: indeed.09:55
SportChickof the three that got klined09:55
SportChickSeveas: fix what?09:55
jendaSeveas: but it would help with a current pressing issue - it could be months before a competent team gets control of the channel.09:55
Nafallohow can I tell? :-)09:55
Seveasjenda, what's so pressing?09:55
SeveasSportChick, they are cloaked :)09:55
SportChickNafallo: on their departure message, it should provide the hostname09:56
SportChickoh, what was the cloak?09:56
naliothNafallo: they were using the wrong tor system09:56
SeveasSportChick, and quitmsgs don't have hosts09:56
Nafallo* ozamosi har avslutat (K-lined)09:56
Nafallo* Bobcat har avslutat (K-lined)09:56
Nafallo* LadyFrost har avslutat (K-lined)09:56
SportChickNafallo: tell them to turn off their tor exit connections and then get back to us09:56
LjLwell, that's not three users, the first two at least are clones09:56
jendaSeveas: well, my head's currently full, of the just-passed-meeting, but this particular small channel mode issue makes it impossible for the channel users to find help/operators.09:56
Nafallookidoki. :-)09:56
Nafallothanks09:56
NafalloLjL: bnc :-)09:57
LjLi see09:57
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jendaSeveas: do you have time to read an email?09:58
Seveasjenda, /cs access #ubuntu-es list09:58
Seveaswfm09:58
Seveasbtw, that access list is HORRENDOUSLY INSECURE09:58
jendawfm?09:58
Seveasworks for me09:59
jendayes09:59
jendabut, Seveas, you have access 3009:59
Seveas2909:59
jendaerr09:59
jenda2909:59
jenda-ChanServ- An access level of [1]  is required for [ACCESS LIST]  on #ubuntu-es09:59
naliothhybrid: you're wrong, seveas has 10000 on that list09:59
jenda/cs info #ubuntu-es09:59
jenda-ChanServ- Channel [#ubuntu-es]  is private09:59
SeveasI'd like to keep it that way until the channel list is less insecure10:00
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Seveasit's seriously bad10:00
Seveasanyone can get access when they see the list10:00
Seveasup to level 2910:00
naliothSeveas: i wonder how that list even works10:01
jendaSeveas: not really - I believe you have to be identified on the nick in question.10:01
Seveasseriously, how long will it take before someone competent takes over that channel?10:01
Seveasjenda, not with access entries like nick!*@*10:01
LjLbwahaha10:01
LjLthat doesn't take someone *competent* :P10:02
LjLit just takes someone who's heard this conversation10:02
SeveasLjL, I mean when will someone competent take over pelicanos duties as leader10:02
LjLah10:03
SportChickLjL: you scared them all off10:05
NafalloSportChick: ozamosi says it's off now :-)10:05
SportChickone moment10:06
SportChickNafallo: tell him to reconnect10:07
jendaSeveas: I'll check that - but it'll take at least 14 days till the next meeting, and I believe it won't get settled there either.10:07
SportChickNafallo: let him know that if he turns that back on, he'll just end up klined again though10:07
Seveasjenda, keep the access list private until then10:08
NafalloSportChick: thanks. I will :-)10:08
SportChickSeveas: may I pm?10:08
SeveasSportChick, always10:08
jendaSeveas: alrighty.10:08
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LjLSportChick: who, the -es guys? they darn well be scared!10:09
SportChickLjL: yep hehe10:09
jendaSeveas: no, I can't gain access, even if I change my nick to one of those.10:10
Seveasjenda, that's a relief10:11
LjLcan unregistered users have chanserv access at all?10:11
jendaI hope nobody notices me joining under an ops nick :)10:11
jendaLjL: AFAIK, no.10:11
LjLthen that's why i suppose10:11
LjLas long as they don't have nick*!*@*...10:12
jendawell...10:12
jendathey do.10:12
LjLnote the first star10:12
jendaoh10:12
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jendaof course ;)10:12
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somerville32Where is Mez when you need him?10:26
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Amaranthhey Mez, Burgwork10:46
Mezhi Amaranth10:46
AmaranthMez: PM?10:47
jendaDon't!10:47
jendaIt's a trap!10:47
jenda10:47
MezAmaranth, what for ?10:47
Amaranthyour server10:48
Mezis it fucked again ?10:48
Amaranthnah, just a little problem with wordpress10:48
Mezah cool, #web ?10:49
Amaranthdo you have some setting disabled that would make wordpress not be able to talk to akismet.net?10:49
Amaranthnot really something for #web :)10:49
Mezoh, akismet works with my WP10:50
Amaranthlet me try again10:50
Amaranththe server was acting weird at the time10:50
Amaranthjumping between less than a second and 20 seconds to render the admin interface10:50
MezAmaranth, one sec10:51
Amaranthyay it worked this time10:52
Amaranthnevermind then10:52
Amaranthno more comment spam for me :)10:52
Mez11 hours ago was this by any chance ?10:52
Amaranthnah10:52
Amaranthcloser to 2410:52
Mezah, well the server was having issues this mrning10:53
MezI rebooted it10:53
Amaranthmaybe the reboot fixed my problem10:54
Mezprobably10:55
Mezit fixes lots of problems10:55
Mezi cant find out why it just ... dies now and then10:55
Amaranthheh10:56
Mezit's like it's running windows10:58
MezAmaranth, is the server broken again for you11:20
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Seeker`is there a channel that new teams should go to for help?11:26
LjLyes, the #ubuntu-es ops don't have a clue at all.11:35
LjLbesides - are they actually trying to make #ubuntu-es a channel for *spanish* (not spanish *speaking*) people only, and move everybody else to #ubuntu-lat? is that what magicfab was saying? that seems to be what they were saying now. and claiming that it's jono who's decided so, if i got that correctly... i hope i didn't.11:37
jendaLjL: no.11:39
jendaJono did try to push for that.11:40
jendaBut I think he won't manage. I hope he won't - and I hope we'll manage to convince him :)11:40
jendaNot even the spanish people want that.11:40
LjLi'm not normally involved with the -es channels, or with anything that's not english actually11:41
LjLbut i'd oppose that totally11:41
LjLit's like saying that *i* shouldn't come to #ubuntu because i'm not english/american/whatever11:41
LjLthat's incredibly stupid11:41
naliothand it won't fly very long11:42
LjLi hope it won't fly at all11:42
LjLthe #ubuntu-es op who doesn't have a clue about what linux is is already making jokes of my spelling, unless i'm very much mistaken, instead of arguing for his (non-existent) point... he discovers i'm not spanish, he shows me the way out? no, not really, that's not the way11:43
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jendaLjL: I believe jono didn't really investigate the problems there, and was solving stuff that wasn't really an issue at all. I don't blame him - he's got tons on his schedule, but it'll have to be addressed again.11:48
LjLis there any relevant meeting log or something?11:49
jenda(he came in and +m'd the channel, and had a talk, with comments from -es-comments, but that was it)11:49
jendaLoCobot log'd it.11:49
LjLi'll look11:49
LjL!logs11:49
ubotuChannel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs11:49
LjLbesides, there's already been some complaining about both -es and -lat in here, which means something is wrong, and from what i can begin to understand, it's probably more than something11:50
Mezneone want a game of frozen bubble 211:50
jendaLjL: it's way more than the channels.11:51
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LjLjenda: got a date for the jono talk, to know which log to read?12:01
jendaLjL: today, 19:00 UTC12:01
jendaor yesterday, if you're more than UTC :)12:01
LjLyeah, 0:01 here ;P12:02
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LjLgee is locobot's site slow12:09
yipethanks nalioth12:11
yipeso how long am I muted in -offtopic?12:12
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Tm_TOk.12:15
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yipe:D12:15
yipeso.... when can I chat in u-offtopic again?12:17
naliothyipe: when your mute is lifted.  (and i don't know when that will be, but it will be revisited in the future)12:19
yiperevisited eh?12:20
yipeI still think this is a bit much for a brief summary of a dream12:21
yipeit's not like I went into nasty detail or something12:21
naliothyipe: be that as it may.12:21
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yipe+z?12:25
Seveashey Hobbsee12:25
yipewhat's that mean? Isn't that the one where only ops can see what you say?12:25
Hobbseehey all12:26
Hobbseeyes12:26
Hobbseehey Seveas!!!!12:26
naliothyipe: that is correct12:27
Hobbseeheya nalioth12:27
naliothhi Hobbsee12:27
naliothHobbsee: what did you need earlier?12:27
yipeso I assume that since you two can see me that people with voice can see it too12:27
naliothHobbsee: or, 'did you get sorted' ?12:27

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