[12:15] <drkm> I am trying to sync my ipod with amarok.. it mounts.. as it says its mounted the /media/ipod but when I click connect it says it can't connect to iPod.. anyone know why?
[12:15] <Captain_Redbeard> So did anyone try the KDE4 snapshot yet?
[12:17] <coreire> !modeline
[12:17] <ubotu> A Modeline is a configuration line in the X server configuration file that provides information about a connected computer monitor or television and how to drive it at a specified display resolution. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFree86_Modeline for more details. Here is 2 links to generate modelines which fit your monitor: http://www.bohne-lang.de/spec/linux/modeline/ and http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl
[12:18] <rEvolution27> anyone reccomend easy ubuntu?
[12:21] <cntb> rEvolution27: I recommend 'sudo apt-get install program '
[12:21] <cntb> matsavhalev_problems?
[12:22] <coreire> bugger, was trying to set my res and am now getting "mode not supported" on my screen. Any key combination to get from the username/pass screen to the commandline?
[12:29] <inteliwasp> my cat had decided to sit on my keyboard, after haveing a billion windows open, my keyboard in X does not work... how can i fix it
[12:30] <zerak> does not starting x after hard drive check count as a bug ?
[12:30] <zerak> or is it a so called "feature", not starting x
[12:31] <VanessaE> well
[12:31] <cntb> hahahaha inteliwasp, next time lock session automatically. learn from mistakes
[12:31] <VanessaE> if an error occurs that could keep X from starting at all (i.e. your x config gets hosed), it should be considered a feature
[12:31] <johny_> !fglrx|johny
[12:31] <ubotu> johny: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:32] <cntb> inteliwasp ctrl alt f1
[12:32] <zerak> well it did start the second try
[12:32] <inteliwasp> cntb: i'm in terminal mode now
[12:32] <zerak> i got a feeling that kubuntu and x.org are not very good friends
[12:32] <VanessaE> as for keys being weird, if I remember right, ctrl-shift-NumLock is one way to recover
[12:32] <inteliwasp> cntb: oh, and the problen persist after reboot
[12:33] <VanessaE> it's some weird keycombo like that
[12:33] <VanessaE> ew.
[12:33] <cntb> zerak lets you check things out
[12:33] <VanessaE> nevermind
[12:33] <zerak> recover mode?
[12:33] <VanessaE> zerak: essentially, yeah
[12:33] <VanessaE> but really, it just means X doesn't get started :)
[12:33] <zerak> nice combo
[12:33] <cntb> inteliwasp do you have alternateCD ?
[12:33] <cntb> !alternate
[12:33] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[12:33] <inteliwasp> i'll try ctl-shft-numb
[12:33] <johny_> hey guys I've just resolved the problem with non having fglrx support
[12:33] <VanessaE> you always have those consoles available whether X is running or not
[12:34] <zerak> yes but i prefer yakuake
[12:35] <johny_> on the page  the bot links you to  there's an error
[12:35] <zerak> shoud learn lynx and the console irc
[12:36] <zerak> however i call it a feature and end with that, good night and enjoy the evening/night/morning/day or whatever =)
[12:36] <neil__> hello
[12:37] <neil__> anyone here?
[12:37] <cntb> no
[12:37] <neil__> good answer
[12:38] <neil__> where are you from cntb?
[12:38] <Alarm> is it possible my K-menu to use any kind of transparency ?
[12:38] <neil__> no i dea i just installed this kubuntu thing last night and finally got my wireless network working today.
[12:39] <SilverCat> Here's a wonky one:  I am using a USB to IDE cable from usbgeek called the R-DriverII.  It works just fine under MacOSX, Solaris9 (on Sparc) and Knoppix - KUbuntu (6.10) is refusing to play nicely with it, though it shows up in lsusb and lsscsi.  An lsmod | grep -i usb in Knoppix shows that usb_ohci is being used, but under KUbuntu, it isn't loaded, and neither will modprobe load it for me.  A cursory apt-cache search ochi doesn't
[12:39] <coreire> how do i set the default res for X to start in? I have to do it from command line as X is trying to start with too high a res for the screen
[12:39] <SilverCat> coreire : order matters in your resolutions line in your xorg.conf.  Whatever you want for your default should be first.
[12:40] <chavo> Alarm,  System Settings -> Appearance -> Style - Effects Tab make menu translucent
[12:40] <inteliwasp> well...
[12:40] <inteliwasp> the cnt-shift-numb did not work...
[12:40] <neil__> is there a manual you can download for all the commands for the command prompt?
[12:41] <inteliwasp> neil__: yes
[12:41] <neil__> where do i download it
[12:41] <coreire> thanks silvercat
[12:41] <iuli> www.ss64.com
[12:41] <SilverCat> Sure, coreire.  Hope it helps.
[12:41] <Alarm> chavo,  thank you very much. do u know maybe if there is a way in changing the font colour of the taskbar-ed windows ?
[12:41] <iuli> a good link for commands
[12:41] <neil__> is there a virus checker for kubuntu or do i need one?
[12:41] <VanessaE> normally your system comes with manual pages for the various commands also, i.e. `man something`
[12:41] <chavo> neil__, no but lots of howto's on the web
[12:42] <chavo> neil__, no need for virus checker for the most part
[12:42] <chavo> unless your scanning stuff headed to a Windows box
[12:42] <inteliwasp> neil__: wait, i'm not shure for D/L, but orilly's "unix commands in a nutshell" is a god book
[12:42] <SilverCat> neil : that's an anormous list.  Phonebook-sized, even.  What you're probably after is a manual like the user's guide, which you can find at The Linux Documentation Project at www.tldp.org
[12:42] <neil__> ok i found all the commands thank you
[12:42] <ErikTheRed> can any of you recommend a good piece of software for tagging music
[12:42] <ErikTheRed> other than easytag
[12:43] <SilverCat> neil: what VanessaE said.  Also, if you're not sure what command to use, it often helps to try man -k <foo> where foo is a relevant word for what you're trying to do.  Alternative to that is 'apropos' which does the same thing.
[12:44] <inteliwasp> ErikTheRed: i know there are others, but i cant look right now due to being stuck in terminal mode
[12:44] <neil__> ok thank you.
[12:44] <neil__> i have been trying man <word>
[12:44] <wedgeV> ErikTheRed: audio tag tool
[12:44] <wedgeV> but easytag works fine for me
[12:44] <neil__> what does the -k do?
[12:45] <Wazzzaaa> can anybody tell me howto get the latest release from SVN ? do i need to add an url to the source.list of apt?
[12:45] <inteliwasp> anyone know how to unlock the keyboard? X decided it will not accept it but the tty does
[12:45] <SilverCat> sure, man <word> will work, but if and only if there's a command called that.  where man -k <word> will tel you all the stuff related to that word.
[12:45] <chavo> you can edit tags with Amarok also
[12:45] <neil__> oh ok thank you
[12:45] <neil__> sorry but i am brand new to this. just installed it to try yesterday.
[12:45] <Shak1> NEW
[12:46] <SilverCat> Wazzzaaa : just use svn from the command line.  There isn't an apt repository for something that fresh.
[12:46] <neil__> and totally amazed myself when i was able to get my wireless internet and network working by myself.
[12:46] <SilverCat> Wazzzaaa: "man svn" for usage details.  If it isn't installed, then you should be able to "apt-get install subversion"
[12:46] <chavo> you can also try man: in konqueror if you'd like to see man pages like that
[12:47] <coreire> silvercat: just to let ya know changing order worked perfect, thanks a lot man, i was freakin out lol
[12:47] <SilverCat> neil__: are you having fun with it so far?
[12:47] <Wazzzaaa> thnx SilverCat, that second answer helps me :D
[12:47] <neil__> well ya its something different.
[12:47] <neil__> its definately a challenge
[12:47] <SilverCat> coreire: No problem, man.  That's what we're all here for.
[12:48] <neil__> do you run msn sivercat?
[12:48] <SilverCat> neil__: To be honest with you, I haven't used Windows since 3.11, so the other way around is a challenge for me.  It's all in what you're used to.
[12:48] <SilverCat> neil__: I sure don't.  But I've got AIM
[12:48] <neil__> i am using kopete for my msn account
[12:49] <neil__> what is the best linux distro do you think? the most advanced one?
[12:49] <VanessaE> depends on how you define "most advanced"
[12:49] <inteliwasp> neil__: um... if you ask 10 people that, you will get 20 answers
[12:49] <SilverCat> How are you liking Kopete?  It's really fab most of the time, especially with the way it uses knotify.  But it's really starting to piss me off with the way it handles video devices.  But I understand that's new functionality and likely to be buggy for a while.
[12:49] <Shak1> NEW
[12:50] <neil__> i am using kubuntu 6.10 is that a good one
[12:50] <neil__> like webcams you mean?
[12:50] <SilverCat> neil__: that's the newest Ubuntu distro, until Feisty Fawn (7.04) comes out.
[12:50] <Shak1> NEW
[12:50] <neil__> is there a better messenger
[12:50] <inteliwasp> gaim
[12:50] <SilverCat> yeah, like webcams.
[12:51] <neil__> is gaim better
[12:51] <SilverCat> Some folks really like Gaim, but if you're in KDE, Gaim's just kinda bloatware.
[12:51] <iuli> psi
[12:51] <VanessaE> if you mean newest software, probably the 'unstable' branch of gentoo.  If you mean the most robust or bug-free, maybe Red Hat or straight Debian (stable branch).  if you mean easiest to use, surely Ubuntu.  So yeah, it depends on how you define "most advanced"
[12:51] <Shak1> NEW
[12:51] <ErikTheRed> can audio tag tool pull from freedb?
[12:52] <neil__> the only thing i dont like about this kubuntu is that since i installed it my other work isnt getting done. lol
[12:52] <inteliwasp> SilverCat: do you know how to unlock my keyboard when X lockes it?
[12:53] <SilverCat> inteliwasp: I'm not sure what you mean by 'lock'.  Do you mean that X is started up and isn't using your KB properly?  Is it configured correctly in your xorg.conf?
[12:53] <neil__> what do you run silvercat? kubuntu or debian or what?
[12:55] <inteliwasp> SilverCat: well my cat decided it wanted to sit on my tosty laptop keyboard, thus opening hundresds of windows(had "M" held down, when i came back, the keyboard would not respond and had to restart, after i log on, the kb stops working in X but it was working up till the login screen.
[12:56] <inteliwasp> i think that was the longist line i ever wrote in irc...
[12:57] <neil__> what do you use silvercat? kubuntu or debian or what?
[12:57] <SilverCat> I use KUbuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) at home and on my desktop at work.
[12:57] <phobiac> inteliwasp: You could try reconfiguring X
[12:57] <neil__> i see that is what i have installed too. i kinda like it. and i really appreciate your assistance here
[12:58] <phobiac> inteliwasp: Can you get to a command line session on the computer?
[12:58] <inteliwasp> i a atm...
[12:58] <inteliwasp> crap i gota go
[12:58] <neil__> i use the terminal program for a command line
[12:59] <neil__> anyway gotta run. thanks again silvercat. i owe ya one.
[01:02] <SilverCat> Oi.  Buddy just showed up with some beers.  I'm gonna say goodnight.
[01:04] <leiar> can anyone help me to install java 1.5 on kubuntu. I've screwed it up I think by installing deb packages. Now I've got broken dependencies
[01:04] <Hobbsee> !java
[01:04] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[01:08] <leiar> obotu: what do I do with broken dependencies?
[01:08] <leiar> obotu: I've tried apt-get -f install
[01:08] <VanessaE> usually `apt-get -f install`
[01:08] <VanessaE> will do it.
[01:08] <Jucato> !ubotu
[01:08] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:08] <VanessaE> oh.
[01:09] <VanessaE> !pastebin
[01:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:09] <VanessaE> paste an example of the error output there ^^^
[01:09] <VanessaE> and then let us know the URL of the paste so we can look
[01:12] <voicu> can't i span a movie on the two monitors i have? i have xinerama enabled and (i think) i disabled overlays in vlc, it still doesn't work
[01:12] <voicu> btw, how do i disable overlays in kaffeine?
[01:12] <tom__> If i have a 80gb hard drive, only one partition, could i cut off 10 or so gb to use for another partition without destroying my current one?
[01:12] <VanessaE> I dunno about vlc except that I tried it once and had the same problem - have you tried xine?
[01:13] <voicu> VanessaE, did xine work for you?
[01:13] <VanessaE> I don't remember :)
[01:13] <VanessaE> lemme try it
[01:13] <VanessaE> yep, works.
[01:13] <leiar> VanessaE: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4354/
[01:14] <voicu> hmm, kaffeine uses xine, right? why doesn't it work
[01:14] <voicu> hehe
[01:14] <johny_> when watching divix, xvid movies in Kaffeine, Totem, vlc they "freeze" only few seconds. Have an idea what it can be?
[01:14] <VanessaE> yes, it uses xine's libs, but the problem could be UI-related.
[01:14] <VanessaE> tried installing xine-ui and using that?
[01:14] <voicu> nope, but that's the plan now :D
[01:15] <VanessaE> d'oh - foreign language error msgs :)
[01:15] <leiar> VanessaE: Can I change default language in console?
[01:16] <leiar> so you can read it?
[01:16] <VanessaE> kinda-sorta
[01:16] <VanessaE> I don't read norwegian
[01:16] <VanessaE> but it looks like it's saying it wants a different version of libc6 than what's installed
[01:16] <VanessaE> or that it has no installation candidate maybe
[01:17] <leiar> Can't i just remove it?
[01:17] <Jucato>  libc6-i686: Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.6-0ubuntu20.4) but 2.3.6.ds1-11 is installed ?
[01:17] <VanessaE> definitely not. :)  libc6 is used by pretty much everything
[01:18] <leiar> what do you suggest, I should'n have fooled around with these deb.packages...
[01:18] <VanessaE> hm
[01:18] <ben_m> How do I find the name of my network card out?
[01:19] <VanessaE> not really sure to be honest; maybe you could download the latest libc6 from ubuntu's repository (or look in /var/cache/apt/archives and see if it's there) and install the deb using dpkg
[01:19] <VanessaE> that *might* fix it
[01:19] <Jucato> leiar: you might have added an unofficial repository that upgraded libc6
[01:20] <VanessaE> that's what I was thinking..
[01:20] <leiar> jucato: I think youre right. Let me have a loog at the source.list
[01:20] <VanessaE> check your /etc/apt/sources.list like Jucato suggests
[01:21] <VanessaE> if you can manually restore libc6, you might be able to let apt-get fix things from there.
[01:21] <leiar> Yes, universe and multiverse are all uncommented
[01:22] <VanessaE> those are usually safe
[01:22] <voicu> i don't get it. how did you disable overlays in xine?
[01:22] <VanessaE> anything new?
[01:22] <voicu> still doesn't work
[01:22] <VanessaE> voicu, why are you trying to disable the overlay anyways?  you need that for fast rendering
[01:23] <voicu> well, i think my video board can only overlay on one of the monitors
[01:23] <VanessaE> xine -V chanmges video output modes
[01:23] <VanessaE> (e.g:  xine -V opengl)
[01:23] <VanessaE> you can select from these:  aadxr3 dxr3 xv SyncFB opengl xshm xxmc none vidixfb vidix fb xvmc
[01:23] <leiar> Haven't got anything but ubuntu-links in sources.list
[01:23] <voicu> hmm
[01:24] <leiar> ow do i manualley restore libc6?
[01:24] <Jucato> leiar: can you pastebin your sources.list ?
[01:24] <VanessaE> leiar, could libc6 have been updated during a manual install, as in dpkg -i *.deb  maybe?
[01:24] <leiar> jucato: yes
[01:24] <VanessaE> look in /var/cache/apt/archives
[01:24] <VanessaE> see if the original is still there
[01:24] <VanessaE> dpkg -i thatfile.deb   if it is.
 libc6-i686: Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.6-0ubuntu20.4) but 2.3.6.ds1-11 is installed ? <-- 2.3.6.ds1-11 definitely doesn't look like an ubuntu version
[01:25] <leiar> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4355/
[01:26] <leiar> jucato: You are right. I downloaded it from a debian site....
[01:27] <Jucato> er..
[01:27] <Jucato> try this: sudo apt-get install libc6=2.3.6-0ubuntu20.4
[01:27] <leiar> how do I remove it (you've probably realized that I am not experienced in Linux by now....)
[01:28] <VanessaE> just for future reference, never ever touch anything that says "glibc" or "libc" (5, 6, 7, whatever).  It's very easy to totally hose your system if you futz with those.
[01:28] <VanessaE> just re-install the 'right' one, it should force the bad version out.
[01:29] <leiar> VanessaE, jucato: thanks. Seems to work now..
[01:29] <VanessaE> good deal.
[01:30] <leiar> But my java version is 1.4.2 even if I have installed sun-java5-jre
[01:31] <leiar> I need java 1.5 for a text-editor on a communication platform at my school (I'm a teacher..)
[01:31] <ubuntu> when installing kubuntu it askes me to "Resize IDE1 master, partition #1 (hda1) and use freed space" and then at the bottom there is a slider that says "New Partition Size" is it refering to the master partiton i am resizing or thr new partition iminstalling kubuntu on?
[01:31] <Jucato> leiar: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[01:32] <Jucato> leiar: then choose the correct java version
[01:35] <leiar> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4356/
[01:36] <ubuntu> when installing kubuntu it askes me to "Resize IDE1 master, partition #1 (hda1) and use freed space" and then at the bottom there is a slider that says "New Partition Size" is it refering to the master partiton i am resizing or thr new partition iminstalling kubuntu on?
[01:37] <slyfox> Can anyone tell me anything about Kmail vs Gmail ?
[01:37] <slyfox> offline vs online ?
[01:38] <voicu> !DPMS
[01:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dpms - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:40] <BluesKaj> ubuntu, looks like you have windows installed , that's usually hda1
[01:40] <makuseru> no
[01:40] <makuseru> mint linux
[01:40] <Hobbsee> slyfox: uh?  kmail and gmail are completely different?
[01:41] <Hobbsee> you can view your gmail mail thru kmail though
[01:41] <antibody> hi all I'm having problems..I have a swap on /dev/sda1/UUID=75b64ee7-06a6-4327-95e5-15964905af4e however I have this line in /etc/fstab : UUID=75b64ee7-06a6-4327-95e5-15964905af4e none swap noauto 0 0 and I don't have swap after boot.
[01:42] <slyfox> Hobbsee: that is what I was thinking, but then if I start using Kmail, my Gmail will turn into mass.. no ?
[01:42] <slyfox> Hobbsee: what do you use for mail , To Do list, and Calendar ?
[01:42] <antibody>  if I swapon /dev/sda1 it works if I do swapon UUID=75b64ee7-06a6-4327-95e5-15964905af4e it doesn't
[01:43] <Hobbsee> slyfox: not really.  well, depends what kind of mess you mean.  i'ts a pop3 protocol, so changes in kmail arent seen on gmail, and vice versa
[01:43] <LjL> ryanakca: err... i though i was on -offtopic. anyway :)
[01:43] <ryanakca> LjL: kk
[01:43] <ryanakca> LjL: lol
[01:43] <Hobbsee> slyfox: my mail's by imap, not pop3.  thunderbird, as kmail sucks for imap.
[01:44] <slyfox> Hobbsee: what about to do lists and calendar?
[01:44] <slyfox> Hobbsee: I am debating to use Kontact vs Googel Calander and Rememebr the Milk
[01:45] <Hobbsee> slyfox: well, you can import mail to any client you like, usually.
[01:45] <Hobbsee> calender isnt easy to sync.  dont know about that one
[01:45] <word> if you run a 64 bit processer on -386...should it go horridly slow?
[01:45] <makuseru> when installing kubuntu it askes me to "Resize IDE1 master, partition #1 (hda1) and use freed space" and then at the bottom there is a slider that says "New Partition Size" is it refering to the master partiton i am resizing or thr new partition iminstalling kubuntu on?
[01:46] <Hobbsee> word: nto really
[01:46] <Hobbsee> makuseru: the latter, i think
[01:46] <slyfox> Hobbsee: so what do you use for calednar and to do list ?
[01:47] <word> Hobbsee: after switching motherboards and processors on a current install of kubuntu...should it go horridly slow?
[01:48] <|Soul^Shadow|> HELP I need XP to read a linux share, using XP pro sp2 mod I have ip v6 insatlled & any other protocol it has that would relate to this
[01:48] <Hobbsee> slyfox: todo i use a program called basket.
[01:48] <Hobbsee> slyfox: i dont use calender
[01:48] <Hobbsee> word: if you're on a 64bit processor, why arent you installing from an amd64cd?
[01:49] <|Soul^Shadow|> you dont? how do you know what day it is, or do u just play on linux & let the days pass :P
[01:50] <word> Hobbsee: i had an amd athlon xp 2900+ installed 32 bit kubuntu...now 6 months later i upgraded my motherboard and processor to a dual core 2.8 ghz 64bit intel
[01:50] <|Soul^Shadow|> anyway what protocol do I need to get NT box to read linux network?
[01:50] <|Soul^Shadow|> im using samba but only reads 1way
[01:50] <|Soul^Shadow|> even have share ccess on
[01:50] <|Soul^Shadow|> access*
[01:51] <Hobbsee> |Soul^Shadow|: i tend to use basket for my todo, and dont track the calender (aside from kcalender) on my computer at all
[01:52] <Hobbsee> word: both should install, i would expect.  they should both run fine too.  amd64 would be better though
[01:52] <|Soul^Shadow|> zeroconf is enabled & set, XP acts like its not there but when I do add network it sees the computer sorta
[01:52] <Hobbsee> assuming it's a core 2 duo, nto a core duo
[01:52] <Hobbsee> |Soul^Shadow|: no idea sorry - it tends to be a black art to me
[01:52] <|Soul^Shadow|> ohwho cares :p I need help :*(
[01:53] <|Soul^Shadow|> u tellin me u dont share between a linux & NT box?
[01:53] <word> Hobbsee: it's a pentium D
[01:53] <Hobbsee> word: ahh.  -i386 is the way to go then.  no idea why it isnt working
[01:53] <|Soul^Shadow|> hhmm pentium Doh' I cooked it again
[01:53] <Hobbsee> |Soul^Shadow|: sure, but on the odd occasion i do, i dump stuff from here (linux) to an XP box, not the other way around
[01:54] <|Soul^Shadow|> I got same 1 way comunication with this sob
[01:54] <|Soul^Shadow|> I hate Xp
[01:54] <|Soul^Shadow|> but I have to use it
[01:55] <|Soul^Shadow|> I doubt wine could handlethe tax program cus it uses SQL databases
[01:55] <|Soul^Shadow|> handle the*
[01:56] <makuseru> what happens when your resizing a partition and it gets stuck on 0?
[01:58] <word> Hobbsee: it's working-ish just going slower than my 3 year old processor
[01:59] <Hobbsee> word: odd...
[01:59] <Hobbsee> word: no decrease in ram, presumably?
[01:59] <Hobbsee> word: and which are you isntalling?
[01:59] <Hobbsee> oh wait, a p4...it shouldnt matter
[02:00] <makuseru> what happens when your resizing a partition and it gets stuck on 0%?
[02:01] <word> Hobbsee: nope, theoratically the ram should be running faster, this mobo supports dual channel at 400 instead of 333 like the old one
[02:01] <Hobbsee> makuseru: it's thinking about it?
[02:01] <Hobbsee> word: true
[02:01] <makuseru> would it be ok to close it
[02:01] <makuseru> or would that ruin the partition
[02:02] <makuseru> even thouh its on 0%
[02:03] <rEvolution27> can anyone give me help on how to set up a home wireless network?
[02:03] <rEvolution27> i'm connected to a wireless router by LAN
[02:05] <Hobbsee> makuseru: not sure, to be honest
[02:05] <Hobbsee> rEvolution27: install knetworkmanager?
[02:05] <Hobbsee> isnt it already set up, if you're connected to it?
[02:05] <Hobbsee> root___: ircing as root is bad, btw
[02:06] <rEvolution27> umm
[02:07] <rEvolution27> The network was set up out of the box so I don't really nkow
[02:08] <rEvolution27> i lied... i'm connected to a modem which is connected to a wireless router..
[02:08] <word> Hobbsee: so when i upgrade to fiesty i should use the regular cd not the amd64 one even though i have a pentium D?
[02:08] <rEvolution27> I think amd 64 is only for AMD chips
[02:11] <word> rEvolution27: ok
[02:12] <rEvolution27> so umm.... k network manager... I got it. How does it work?
[02:12] <tom__> if i have a 10 gb partition and 70 free how can i combine the two?
[02:13] <rEvolution27> depending on the physical location of the partitons on the drive, you should be able to resize the 10gb partition
[02:14] <tom__> there right next to eachother
[02:14] <rEvolution27> !partitioning
[02:14] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[02:14] <rEvolution27> yes then you can just resize the 10gb
[02:16] <kai> hey peoples
[02:16] <kai> Quik question
[02:16] <rEvolution27> hi
[02:16] <inteliwasp> what is the command to reconfigure x?
[02:16] <kai> I have a NTFS external USB, how can I format it for my linux machine
[02:17] <chavo> inteliwasp, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:17] <inteliwasp> chavo: THANKS
[02:18] <Jucato> !xconfig | inteliwasp
[02:18] <ubotu> inteliwasp: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[02:18] <Jucato> ubotu: ping
[02:18] <ubotu> pong
[02:18] <Jucato> bah..
[02:18] <Jucato> inteliwasp: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:18] <Jucato> duh... late bot
[02:18] <kai> am I able to do that in linux?
[02:22] <rEvolution27> arrgh even though i set up my network i'm so confused...
[02:22] <lotek> Who here has multiple email accounts setup in Kmail?
[02:22] <rEvolution27> ok i'm connected via lan to a router, andother computer is connected via lan to that router.... How can I get them to be friends?
[02:23] <rEvolution27> Kmail annoys me
[02:23] <lotek> Yeah.. its annoying me.
[02:23] <mado> hello
[02:23] <lotek> Does evolution support contacts, appointments, etc etc.
[02:24] <lotek> I need an all in one organizer.
[02:24] <rEvolution27> i'd try thunderbird
[02:24] <ubuntu> Hi, i have a 10g partition and 70g of free space, how can i merge them? the resize button is greyed out so it ont do it like that
[02:24] <rEvolution27> or evolution
[02:24] <rEvolution27> Evolution is all in one
[02:24] <mado> can you help me please? ... i am just a beginner ... ... is there a free or an open-source program which produces vorbis-files out of mp3-files ?
[02:25] <rEvolution27> audacity?
[02:25] <rEvolution27> !audacity
[02:25] <ubotu> audacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4b-2.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1850 kB, installed size 5444 kB
[02:25] <mado> audacity? ... erm ... ok ... thank you ...
[02:26] <mado> have a nice day
[02:26] <rEvolution27> :) k
[02:26] <mado> maybe i'll stay here for some minutes *smiling*
[02:27] <rEvolution27> IRC is a very nice  place
[02:27] <rEvolution27> great place to learn
[02:28] <sheldonc> anybody had a problem with installer cdrom detection ... after the damn installer has just boot off it?
[02:28] <sheldonc> its the weirdest thing ever
[02:29] <rEvolution27> sheldonc:  lol
[02:29] <kai> can some one help me out, whats the name a format partioner so i can partion some of my NTFS Drives?
[02:29] <bkudria> hmm, is there, perhaps, an ETA for amarok 1.4.5?
[02:30] <rEvolution27> kai: !partitioning
[02:30] <rEvolution27> !partitioning
[02:30] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[02:32] <FringeJacket> anyone know how to adjust the temp a laptop fan kicks in at?
[02:32] <|Soul^Shadow|> pour some water in there it stay cool LOL
[02:32] <who_> any good p2p clients for linux?
[02:32] <inteliwasp> my kb is stll locked after reconfiguring X... any sugestions?
[02:32] <|Soul^Shadow|> p2p wtf
[02:32] <|Soul^Shadow|> use limewire for linux
[02:33] <|Soul^Shadow|> try ctrl alt backspace
[02:33] <|Soul^Shadow|> then tap numlock too see if keyboard responds
[02:33] <bkudria> who_: the ubuntu wiki has a nice table
[02:34] <inteliwasp> |Soul^Shadow|: well in tty moke, the kb works just fine, but when X is up, it don't
[02:34] <inteliwasp> *mode
[02:34] <|Soul^Shadow|> hhhmmm..
[02:35] <inteliwasp> i should mention...
[02:35] <|Soul^Shadow|> there is a keyboard setting sumwhere see if it in another reigon sumhow
[02:35] <inteliwasp> that my cat sat a wile on it too
[02:35] <|Soul^Shadow|> well unless ur cat pissed on it It might be just ur keyboard buffer flooded
[02:36] <|Soul^Shadow|> did u do a total restart of linux?
[02:36] <inteliwasp> yes
[02:36] <inteliwasp> several times
[02:38] <|Soul^Shadow|> did u reset or shutdown wait 10 sec then turn on?
[02:38] <hatta> omg it's sts9
[02:38] <hatta> you guys rule
[02:38] <sts9> jam out
[02:38] <sts9> !
[02:38] <Schuenemann> Is it safe to remove kubuntu-desktop? I'm trying to remove Kmail and adept wants to remove kubuntu-desktop too
[02:38] <inteliwasp> |Soul^Shadow|: reboot
[02:38] <hatta> yes, it's just a dummy package
[02:38] <|Soul^Shadow|> lol cus its attached
[02:39] <Schuenemann> hatta, too me?
[02:39] <Schuenemann> to*
[02:39] <|Soul^Shadow|> oohh shutdown wait 10 sec or o let kb buffer clear
[02:39] <hatta> yes
[02:39] <Schuenemann> hmm thanks
[02:39] <|Soul^Shadow|> or so*
[02:39] <inteliwasp> |Soul^Shadow|: ok be back in 10 mins then
[02:41] <sts9> so, the other day, (using feisty) my Kontrol Center is empty. all the options are gone.  just updated and still no fix.   Is there are way to reset its original state??
[02:41] <sts9> Im assuming a config file or xml or something got hosed.  Not sure how.
[02:42] <|Soul^Shadow|> kk
[02:42] <Jucato> !feisty | sts9
[02:43] <ubotu> sts9: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[02:43] <Jucato> sts9: afaik, a fix is on the way
[02:43] <sts9> ok, so Im the only one
[02:43] <sts9> I mean im *not*
[02:43] <sts9> the only one
[02:43] <Jucato> sts9: no. you're not the only one
[02:43] <Jucato> yeah
[02:43] <Jucato> :)
[02:43] <sts9> ok. fair enough
[02:44] <sts9> works for me. no biggie.  I understood the risk
[02:44] <sts9> haha
[02:44] <sts9> of feisty
[02:46] <sts9> but, one other issue thats dates back to my edgy days, the links in the "about" page in konqueror dont work.  clicking on the Home Link doesnt take me to my files.  I have to click the "View" button
[02:46] <Jucato> hm?
[02:46] <Jucato> 
[02:46] <Jucato> works fine here
[02:46] <sts9> its only a slight annoyance
[02:47] <sts9> yeah it works on my girlfreinds computer also
[02:47] <sts9> I musta done something. a while ago. and never fixed.  even upgrading to feisty
[02:48] <phobiac> Oh now this is just awesome. I found someone who wrote a bash script that rips the sound off of youtube videos, gives them (fake yet surprisingly nice sound) stereo, and then outputs it as an mp3.
[02:48] <phobiac> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=328347 For anyone who's interested
[02:49] <phobiac> I had to install some packages though, ecasound, mpeg123, and lame.
[02:49] <bkudria> hmm, is there, perhaps, an ETA for amarok 1.4.5?
[02:50] <Jucato> sts9: well, if you did something that was saved in your /home settings, upgrades won't reset/remove them
[02:50] <Hobbsee> bkudria: i'ts released, packages are done for feisty
[02:50] <phobiac> Is there anything new coming out with amarok 1.4.5?
[02:50] <bkudria> Hobbsee: what about edgy?
[02:50] <sts9> yeah I tried just deleting the configs
[02:50] <sts9> Im using 1.4.5 right now
[02:50] <bkudria> phobiac: it has some cool features, and a load of bugfixes
[02:50] <sts9> not much in day to day use
[02:51] <sts9> I havent notice anything
[02:51] <phobiac> Oh wait, make that mpg123 above. Not mpeg123.
[02:51] <sts9> that mp3 store and some equalizer fix
[02:51] <Hobbsee> bkudria: likely backported in the next few days
[02:51] <phobiac> bkudria: Is there a list anywhere?
[02:51] <bkudria> Hobbsee: oh, ok, cool.
[02:52] <bkudria> phobiac: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/10/66/
[02:52] <bkudria> phobiac: also, a link to the AWN on the Dot
[02:52] <sts9> I really wish they could remove the small gap between songs
[02:52] <sts9> crossfading is ok, but its odd to me
[02:53] <bkudria> sts9: not possible?  ask in #amarok?
[02:53] <bkudria> sts9: what if the crossfade was really small?
[02:53] <surgy> i have my documents shared on my windows pc and i want to access it with this linux box, i click system menu > remote places > samba shares  and nothing is there, can someone help me trouble shoot this please?
[02:53] <sts9> well Ill mess with it before I bother them.  just an off hand comment anyways
[02:53] <phobiac> "Elapsed time can be shown in OSD. Patch by Christian Engels" I've been waiting for that one, for that alone I can't wait.
[02:54] <sts9> Amarok, owns me
[02:54] <sts9> :)
[02:54] <surgy> sts9: yes it is awsome
[02:55] <Pupeno> Does anybody know of a channel where PIC (microchip's) programming is discussed?
[02:55] <sts9> the ipod support is just very well designed also
[02:55] <sts9> much nicer UI then iTunes
[02:55] <surgy> pupeno: no but i might have a few really good articles, mind me asking what your project is?
[02:56] <phobiac> Heh, with rockbox on it I just have my iPod set as a generic player in Amarok
[02:56] <Pupeno> surgy: I want to make a keyboard.
[02:56] <Pupeno> surgy: I have some specific questions, which might be too off-topic here. Shall we join another channel?
[02:57] <Pupeno> surgy: I created #gnupic.
[02:58] <sts9> What is it you like about rockbox that the apple software doesnt have?  Ive looked around at some of the linux on iPod stuff but I never saw what the draw is
[02:58] <sts9> Ive tried them tho.
[02:58] <bkudria> Pupeno: maybe, #electronics ?
[02:59] <sts9> Im too broke to mess up my iPod,  in fact, that s what made me switch to linux 4 years ago. hard drive crash and no Windows dosk
[02:59] <Pupeno> bkudria: yes, nice idea. Thanks.
[02:59] <phobiac> iPodlinux I didn't like too much. Rockbox is nice for me because with the settings I have it's battery life is a lot longer then with the Apple OS.
[02:59] <sts9> hmmm
[03:00] <sts9> interesting
[03:00] <sts9> Ill have to look on the net for some screenshots of it first...
[03:00] <sts9> cause Im shallow
[03:00] <sts9> ;)
[03:00] <phobiac> sts9: Rockbox has very very little chance of messing up your iPod. The only possible way to mess it up would be if the bootloader (somehow) was written wrong and then you can't connect with your computer to reformat. Which I have never heard of happening.
[03:01] <phobiac> sts9: www.rockbox.org
[03:02] <phobiac> Look in the iPodWPS section for your iPod's model.
[03:02] <sts9> I do really like the Apple interface.  Its very clean.
[03:02] <sts9> yeah Im checking it out
[03:03] <shinigami2> !register
[03:03] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[03:05] <sts9> Maybe after I manage to get compiz to work - Ill check out rockbox.  Ive been messing with these GLX settings for hours.  everytime it kills my borders
[03:06] <sts9> I might head over to #compiz or #beyrl if I feel a little less stubborn later
[03:06] <phobiac> sts9: I *might* be able to help. What's your video card?
[03:06] <sts9> um
[03:06] <sts9> geforce 4 I beleive
[03:07] <sts9> the driver meets the 9***+ requirement
[03:07] <phobiac> I have beryl running smoothly (Well, as smooth as a laptop can run it) on this laptop as we speak.
[03:07] <sts9> I beleive I can use AIGLX
[03:07] <sts9> should I use AIGLX if I can?
[03:07] <phobiac> If you can use it yeah, it's better but I can't recall why.
[03:08] <sts9> well from what I hear, AIGLX is the long term solution
[03:08] <phobiac> Do you have your card set up right though?
[03:08] <sts9> its merged into xorg 7.1
[03:08] <sts9> sure
[03:09] <sts9> glxgears works good and I see the nvidia splash before Kdm loads
[03:09] <sts9> and openGL screensavers work
[03:09] <phobiac> Alright, and you're using compiz?
[03:09] <sts9> so I assume everything is ok
[03:09] <sts9> well Ive tried both
[03:10] <sts9> both of em kill my borders
[03:10] <phobiac> There's a command to run to test it, hold on a second.
[03:10] <sheldonc> feisty fawn, here we go. if this doesnt fix this "dont know what your cdrom is, sorry" lunacy i think im going to jump off my balcony.
[03:10] <sts9> I still get the cube and all that stuff, but the window titlebar is gone
[03:10] <phobiac> Oh that's odd.
[03:10] <phobiac> And this is on beryl or compiz?
[03:12] <sts9> well compiz is the last I tried so thats the one installed
[03:12] <rEvolution27> sts9 i've had that problem before.... it's a theme problem
[03:13] <rEvolution27> can't remember how I solved it...
[03:13] <sts9> Im using plastic, but that shouldnt matter does it? they have their own themes/window managers
[03:13] <rEvolution27> I don't use compiz though...
[03:13] <phobiac> sts9: Have you tried changing themes? It could be the theme.
[03:13] <rEvolution27> yes.. make sure the theme manager is set to compiz
[03:14] <rEvolution27> although it was always the compiz manager that killed my titlebars
[03:14] <sts9> doesnt compiz load its own theme?
[03:14] <rEvolution27> whenever I lost the titlebar with beryl it was because it was set to the wrong wondow manager
[03:14] <cj_> hello
[03:14] <phobiac> sts9: I'm not too sure, I've never used compiz. Only beryl.
[03:15] <cj_> jucato
[03:15] <sts9> well beryl and comiz are less then a year apart,  Im almost certain it is an issue with both
[03:15] <Jucato> cj_: hi
[03:15] <cj_> can you give a link in ph chanel
[03:15] <cj_> thanks
[03:15] <sts9> Im positive if beryl will work compiz will too.  the problem started with beryl
[03:15] <rEvolution27> I know onn beryl I right click on the jewel and choose select window manager>beryl
[03:16] <Jucato> cj_: just type /join #ubuntu-ph
[03:16] <cj_> thanks jucato
[03:16] <sts9> do I need the aquamarine theme?
[03:16] <rEvolution27> no
[03:17] <rEvolution27> I can't help you though since I know nothing about compiz
[03:17] <sts9> Feisty still has that adept upgrade to new release crash.  Synaptic is my new friend
[03:17] <sts9> ok Im gonna install beryl
[03:18] <rEvolution27> when I used compiz I got the problem you have, beryl worked fine
[03:18] <rEvolution27> I followed a guide to install beryl with AIGLX
[03:19] <phobiac> sts9: You have edgy?
[03:19] <phobiac> If so try this guide: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_AIGLX
[03:20] <sts9> I have feisty
[03:20] <sts9> should it matteR?
[03:20] <phobiac> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Feisty_with_AIGLX
[03:20] <sts9> just as long as Im not using dapper I assume
[03:22] <rEvolution27> goodnight all
[03:24] <lengau> Hi everyone.
[03:24] <lengau> Does anyone know when Amarok 1.4.5 is going back into Edgy?
[03:24] <kai> can some help me mount this external hdd
[03:25] <kai> Im doing something wrong but I don't know what
[03:25] <lengau> @kai: What did you do to try and mount it?
[03:25] <hyperactivecrond> kai: plug it in, run from a terminal "dmesg | tail | grep sd*"
[03:26] <kai> I tried to format in windows and reformat it in linux but I don't know how to do it
[03:26] <hyperactivecrond> kai: tell us what that outputs
[03:26] <surgy> can someone help me with my samba problem?  i have my documents shared on my windows pc and i want to access it with this linux box, i click system menu > remote places > samba shares  and nothing is there, can someone help me trouble shoot this please?
[03:26] <kai> [17180133.324000]  attempt to access beyond end of device
[03:27] <kai> [17180133.324000]  sda1: rw=0, want=4, limit=2
[03:27] <kai> [17180133.324000]  EXT3-fs: unable to read superblock
[03:27] <kai> [17180167.404000]  attempt to access beyond end of device
[03:27] <kai> [17180167.404000]  sda1: rw=0, want=4, limit=2
[03:27] <kai> [17180167.404000]  EXT3-fs: unable to read superblock
[03:27] <kai> [17180176.388000]  attempt to access beyond end of device
[03:27] <kai> [17180176.392000]  sda1: rw=0, want=4, limit=2
[03:27] <kai> [17180176.392000]  EXT3-fs: unable to read superblock
[03:27] <kai> [17180318.200000]  loop: loaded (max 8 devices)
[03:28] <kai> what does this mean?
[03:28] <hyperactivecrond> kai: i think your drive's ext3fs may be corrupt
[03:29] <kai> will in windows it was fine
[03:29] <kai> It hasn't been partioned yet, I don't want to use NTFS
[03:30] <hyperactivecrond> kai: you probably then want to format it with fat32 if u want to use it w/ windows and linux
[03:30] <kai> That was thing
[03:30] <kai> I have winXP and I never got an option for fat32
[03:32] <hyperactivecrond> can someone tell kai how to make a vfat fs?
[03:33] <kai> If yu can tell me program I can use, Im clueless as to how to do this
[03:33] <sts9> ok here goes nothin
[03:34] <sts9> qtparted
[03:34] <sts9> I think
[03:34] <sts9> its called
[03:34] <sts9> its kinda buggy tho
[03:34] <sts9> hasnt been updated for years
[03:34] <hyperactivecrond> kai: sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1
[03:34] <hyperactivecrond> use that
[03:35] <kai> how do you know that its /dev/sda1??
[03:35] <kai> Im just curious
[03:35] <hyperactivecrond> kai: it's in your dmesg
[03:35] <hyperactivecrond> which is the kernel's message log
[03:36] <kai> oops :)
[03:36] <sts9> ahhh
[03:36] <kai> Attempting to create a too large file system < --- Thats what it tells me
[03:36] <sts9> im sick of my window borders disappearing
[03:37] <surgy> i really wished i could get my samba to detect my other computer
[03:37] <sts9> stupid 3d.  im just gonna give up and dust off my commodor 64 out and play rambo
[03:37] <theshadow> I some how while getting my video driver to work killed my audio... can anyone give me a hand?
[03:40] <johny_> theshadow: what ditro are you using?
[03:42] <johny_> !audio
[03:42] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:43] <johny_> !audio|theshadow maybe can help
[03:43] <ubotu> theshadow maybe can help: please see above
[03:44] <johny_> #quit
[03:45] <theshadow> ty
[03:46] <shadowhywind> hay all when i am looking at a folder with say text files with numbers, how can i make it sort by number, instead of by the first digit
[03:48] <surgy>  can someone help me with my samba problem?  i have my documents shared on my windows pc and i want to access it with this linux box, i click system menu > remote places > samba shares  and nothing is there, can someone help me trouble shoot this please?
[03:49] <shadowhywind> sorry i would help, but me + samba = a guessing game and prays that it works
[03:49] <surgy> shadowhywind: ok
[03:58] <youser> anyone wanna help me set up my ubuntu to ubuntu network?
[03:59] <djwilcox> hi can anyone recommend a good ssh program
[03:59] <underdog5004> !openssh
[03:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openssh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:59] <underdog5004> !open-ssh
[03:59] <djwilcox> yer
[03:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about open-ssh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:59] <underdog5004> hmmm
[03:59] <underdog5004> djwilcox, openssh
[03:59] <djwilcox> i use fugu on the mac
[03:59] <youser> hmm
[04:00] <Jucato> !openssh-client
[04:00] <ubotu> openssh-client: Secure shell client, an rlogin/rsh/rcp replacement. In component main, is standard. Version 1:4.3p2-5ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 597 kB, installed size 1392 kB
[04:00] <nertil> how can i install the gcc package
[04:00] <nertil> !gcc
[04:00] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:00] <Jucato> nertil: basically, install "build-essential"
[04:00] <djwilcox> is there a ssh with a gui instead of the command line
[04:00] <nertil> apt-get install build-essential ?
[04:00] <Jucato> nertil: yes
[04:00] <nertil> thx
[04:00] <nertil> bbl
[04:01] <theshadow> alright I read everything at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting and acording to it... everything is working :S
[04:01] <Jucato> djwilcox: something like sftp:/ or fish:/ in Konqueror?
[04:02] <djwilcox> ok cheers
[04:02] <fignew> hehe
[04:09] <theshadow> Alright ... I can't figure out why I can't play audio all of a sudden. Can anyone give me a hand please??
[04:10] <slyfox> Anyone knows anything about Keep - backup program? What does "Exclude special files" mean ?
[04:11] <Gretl> another ( maybe broken) app using the sound daemon?
[04:12] <theshadow> Gretl: how could I tell?
[04:12] <Gretl> look at your system monitor what is running
[04:12] <Gretl> if there is any audio app
[04:14] <theshadow> I did the only thing using sound right this second is Gaim, lsof /dev/snd/* returns /dev/snd/controlC0
[04:15] <Gretl> look at your mixer if all settings allright
[04:16] <theshadow> Gretl: yea all the levels are fine and nothing is muted
[04:16] <Gretl> hm maybe you just restart the session if nothing very important is running
[04:17] <Gretl> try logging ou and in again
[04:17] <theshadow> Gretl: yea I've done that too but let me try it again
[04:17] <theshadow> brb
[04:19] <slyfox> Has anyone ever used Keep - backup utility ?
[04:26] <theshadow> Ok... I don't know why but a cold reboot fixed my audio problem.
[04:28] <Gretl> ok enjoy ;)
[04:30] <mbelleza> hello
[04:31] <mbelleza> want to ask on how to unzip the zip files..
[04:31] <mbelleza> pls
[04:31] <Gretl> just right click and you get the options in konqueror
[04:36] <main> wut up
[04:36] <main> anyone there
[04:36] <mbelleza> yes
[04:36] <main> yeah ineed help
[04:37] <main> i cant open .avi files
[04:37] <main> is there a package in package manager i need to get?
[04:37] <Jucato> !lbxine-extracodecs
[04:37] <thoreauputic> !codecs
[04:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:37] <Jucato> !libxine-extracodecs | main
[04:38] <ubotu> main: libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB
[04:38] <niblets> When I try to use my iPod nano (2nd gen) with Amarok, I get the following message when I plug it in while Amarok is running "
[04:38] <niblets> KLibLoader could not load the plugin:
[04:38] <niblets> libamarok_ipod-mediadevice
[04:38] <niblets> Error message:
[04:38] <niblets> /usr/lib/kde3/libamarok_ipod-mediadevice.so: undefined symbol: _ZN6amaroK9StatusBar10s_instanceE
[04:38] <main> k
[04:38] <main> thanks
[04:38] <Jucato> !pastebin | niblets
[04:38] <ubotu> niblets: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:38] <niblets> Ahk, sorry
[04:38] <main> i was looking for it for a while i could find it lol
[04:38] <Jucato> niblets: try asking in #amarok
[04:38] <niblets> Will do
[04:38] <Jucato> main: you need to have multiverse enabled
[04:38] <main> it is
[04:39] <main> i guess i just missed it when i was looking thru
[04:39] <main> also 1 last thing
[04:40] <main> i heard there was a package i can get with wine codecs and everything in it already
[04:40] <main> something called like animatix
[04:40] <main> or matrix
[04:40] <Jucato> !automatix
[04:40] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:40] <thoreauputic> !w32codecs
[04:40] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[04:40] <main> akk
[04:40] <deathnote> hey.. when after i edit the group or passwd file, how do i make it take effect? only after reboot?
[04:40] <main> genius
[04:40] <main> man u guys are a big help
[04:40] <thoreauputic> deathnote: logout-login
[04:40] <deathnote> or is there something to restart
[04:41] <main> thanks
[04:41] <deathnote> thoreauputic: how do i log out all the users on my server?
[04:41] <theshadow> out of curiosity
[04:41] <niblets> When I try to use my iPod nano 2nd gen with Amarok, I get the following message (Pastebin) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4374/
[04:41] <theshadow> !WorksForMe
[04:41] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[04:41] <thoreauputic> deathnote: you don't :) But next time they login their perms will change
[04:42] <thoreauputic> deathnote: or perhaps I misunderstood what you want to do ?
[04:43] <deathnote> ok...actually its a web server handling some files but couldn't access the file because ownership..
[04:43] <deathnote> so maybe in this case i just restart my apache or mysql after adding it into group?
[04:44] <thoreauputic> deathnote: yes, if it's app specific you can usuallt just restart ( send a HUP or use /etc/init.d/foo restart
[04:44] <thoreauputic> *usually
[04:49] <dbglt> is it possible to spin down your main HDD when not in use? Are there a lot of applications which passively access the HDD rather than stuff stored in ram?
[04:53] <bitbyte> have i gone blind, or does my shiny new ubuntu 6.10 installation not have firefox in it?
[04:53] <bitbyte> errrr, kubuntu, sorry
[04:58] <theshadow> Anyone here work in kdevelop?
[05:04] <johny> hey, how to see the names of the users who has got accounts in the system?
[05:04] <surgy> how do i add items to my system menu?
[05:05] <johny> surgy: what you mean?
[05:05] <johny> !kde
[05:05] <theshadow> ok what the heck is the alocal command?
[05:05] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[05:06] <surgy> johny: there is a little popup menu by kmenu its called "system menu" it has remote places and bluetooth and stuff in it, i want to add my shortcut to a network share in there
[05:08] <johny> surgy: ok, try pointing it with mouse and then clicking with the RMB on it and choose "modify"
[05:09] <johny> surgy: I meant on the system tab ;)
[05:09] <surgy> johny: i dont think you know what your talking about, there is no modify
[05:10] <johny> surgy: in my system it is indeed
[05:11] <surgy> in your system........ what do you mean your system?
[05:11] <surgy> not kmenu
[05:11] <johny> surgy: klick on the kmenu then point over system, next click on it with right mouse button and choose modify this menu, or sth like that
[05:11] <surgy> the one NEXT to kmenu called system menu
[05:11] <surgy> johny, i dont want to modify kmenu i want to modify syetem menu
[05:12] <johny> surgy: ok, we got misunderstood
[05:12] <bitbyte> how do i get firefox into my fresh kubuntu 6.10  installation? adept shows firefox but it's greyed out
[05:12] <johny> surgy: what you want to add exactly?
[05:13] <eulchen> Johny in your terminal try who  or w command to get info on users
[05:13] <surgy> johny: nevermind man.
[05:14] <bitbyte> !firefox
[05:14] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[05:14] <johny> eulchen: thanks but I'd like to see accounts that are in the system not only logged users.
[05:15] <devilsadvocate> bitbyte, why dont you try to use the command line and apt-get :)
[05:15] <surgy> can someone tell me how to modfy the "System menu"  ?
[05:16] <surgy> bitbyte: its in the repos
[05:18] <surgy> no one knows how to modify the "system menu" ?
[05:19] <eulchen> Johny perhaps cat /etc/passwd helps more?
[05:19] <johny> eulchen: the unique option?
[05:20] <bitbyte> devilsadvocate just seems odd it shows up in add remove programs, but it's greyed out
[05:20] <LeeJunFan> surgy: right click the K menu icon and choose menu editor?
[05:20] <devilsadvocate> bitbyte, you might have to enable another repo oor something. did you run update?
[05:20] <LeeJunFan> surgy: nevermind - I see your previous now :(
[05:20] <devilsadvocate> LeeJunFan, that only edits the kmenu. not the system menu afaik
[05:21] <LeeJunFan> surgy: Don't think that can be modified - it's in the source, it's an applet rather than a real "menu" per se.
[05:21] <julio> HELLO
[05:21] <johny> julio: hey
[05:21] <surgy> leejunfan: well that sucks
[05:22] <devilsadvocate> surgy, i'm sure there must be a way to modify. you could google around a bit.
[05:22] <bitbyte> devilsadvocate i'm running adept now, i told it to do a full upgrade
[05:22] <surgy> devilsadvocate: nah its cool thnx though
[05:22] <bitbyte> not sure what kinda trouble thats going to get me into
[05:22] <bitbyte> haha
[05:23] <devilsadvocate> bitbyte, probably none :P
[05:23] <johny> LeeJunFan: but it's possible to add a non-kde apps to it, isn't it?
[05:23] <julio> I have another question
[05:23] <bitbyte> hope springs eternal devilsadvocate
[05:24] <bitbyte> hehe
[05:24] <LeeJunFan> johny: not the system button on the taskbar, to the system menu yes. The thing surgy is talking about is the system applet you can add to the taskbar.
[05:24] <devilsadvocate> johey, the one next to the kde symbol
[05:25] <julio> my english is nogood and Iwould like put on practice
[05:26] <julio> anibody can helpme
[05:26] <johny> LeeJunFan: what applet I completelly got confused
[05:26] <surgy> julio what do you need?
[05:26] <julio> somebody to tallk
[05:26] <LeeJunFan> johny: the system applet, which is a button on the taskbar, as opposed to the system menu which is in the k-menu.
[05:27] <johey> devilsadvocate: I'm not really sure that was for me.
[05:27] <surgy> johny: lol its an application that opens into a menu on the taskbar next to the kde menu button which is in the botttom left hand corner the system menu is just to the right of that
[05:27] <devilsadvocate> johey, it was. that is the system menu
[05:27] <surgy> julio: this is a support channel
[05:27] <surgy> julio: send me a pm
[05:27] <devilsadvocate> !offtopic | julio
[05:27] <ubotu> julio: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[05:28] <johey> devilsadvocate: I don't remember myself asking or talking about some menu.
[05:28] <johny> LeeJunFan: the one which has home folder, storage devices ecc.. in it?
[05:28] <julio> thankyou friens
[05:28] <LeeJunFan> johny: right.
[05:28] <surgy> johny: thats the one
[05:29] <surgy> julio: i sent yo a message is your nick registered?
[05:29] <johny> LeeJunFan: ok, but if he need to add sth to it it's possible, isn't it?
[05:29] <LeeJunFan> Mental note to self: setting super glue next to nasal spray on the desk - very bad idea.
[05:29] <julio> no
[05:30] <julio> how I can geit
[05:30] <surgy> julio: if you register your nick with /msg nicks serve register [password]  [email]  i can talk to you in a pm
[05:31] <johny> surgy: you wanto to add a path there?
[05:31] <julio> I tryed also  amoment ago but nither culdnt
[05:31] <surgy> johny: umm i want to add a link to an ip there
[05:32] <julio> it mark me a mistake
[05:32] <surgy> julio: join #dew
[05:32] <bitbyte> do the #dew
[05:32] <Dr_willis> do the #dont
[05:32] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:32] <surgy> lol
[05:32] <LeeJunFan> #dewd - enough already.
[05:32] <surgy> thats my nick in rl
[05:33] <Dr_willis> You have a nick in real life?
[05:33] <julio> this is my first time that I using linux
[05:33] <surgy> yes
[05:33] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:33] <surgy> julion: type /join #dew
[05:33] <surgy> julio*
[05:33] <julio> ok
[05:34] <surgy> how do i register that channel ?
[05:34] <johny> surgy: don't know how to do that, but I belive it's possible
[05:34] <surgy> johny: yeah we went over that allready, but thanx anyways
[05:34] <johny> surgy: try to ask on #kde
[05:36] <julio> now what?
[05:36] <Ertain> Though my webcam is connected and recognized, I can't seem to pick up anything through Kopete.
[05:36] <surgy> julio: click on that channel and talk :)
[05:37] <Dr_willis> !info avahi
[05:37] <ubotu> Package avahi does not exist in edgy, edgy-seveas
[05:37] <Dr_willis> !find avahi
[05:37] <ubotu> Found: libavahi1.0-cil, monodoc-avahi-manual, wzdftpd-mod-avahi, avahi-daemon, libavahi-client-dev (and 20 others)
[05:37] <johny> surgy: let me ask: why don't you add the link to the favourites? It'd be accessible easily
[05:38] <surgy> johny: becuase i use linux becuase i like things EXACTLY how i want them, totaly custome
[05:38] <johny> surgy: ok
[05:39] <bitbyte> devilsadvocate, sos what's this "full upgrade" in adept do anyhow? just update anything that needs updating?
[05:40] <devilsadvocate> bitbyte, pretty much
[05:40] <Jucato> Full Upgrade in Adept = apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:40] <mbelleza> hello...do you know how to play .flv video in kubuntu???
[05:40] <johny> !apt-get
[05:40] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:40] <mbelleza> pls..
[05:40] <mbelleza> anyone
[05:40] <Jucato> mbelleza: sorry, don't know. try Googling about it...
[05:40] <devilsadvocate> mbelleza, you should be able to play it in mplayer, maybe eve kaffiene
[05:40] <surgy> mbelleza: patients is a virtue, if your pushy you wont get answers
[05:41] <johny> mbelleza: what's the problem?
[05:42] <mbelleza> i cant play .flv...video in kubuntu..
[05:42] <mbelleza> do you know how??
[05:42] <mbelleza> pls
[05:42] <mbelleza> tanx
[05:42] <devilsadvocate> mbelleza, sudo apt-get install mplayer
[05:43] <mbelleza> ok..il try
[05:43] <mbelleza> i have to download first the mplayer
[05:43] <K`zan> Anyone here running mythtv in ubuntu ?
[05:44] <johny> mbelleza: just paste that line in terminal
[05:44] <mbelleza> ok
[05:45] <mbelleza> Reading package lists... Done
[05:45] <mbelleza> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:45] <mbelleza> Note, selecting mplayer-custom instead of mplayer
[05:45] <mbelleza> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[05:45] <Jucato> !pastebin | mbelleza
[05:45] <mbelleza> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[05:45] <ubotu> mbelleza: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:45] <mbelleza> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[05:45] <mbelleza> or been moved out of Incoming.
[05:45] <mbelleza> Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
[05:45] <mbelleza> the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
[05:45] <mbelleza> that package should be filed.
[05:45] <mbelleza> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[05:45] <mbelleza> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:45] <mbelleza>   mplayer-custom: Depends: aalib1 (>= 1.2)
[05:45] <mbelleza> E: Broken packages
[05:45] <mbelleza> thats..the error
[05:45] <mbelleza> ok..
[05:45] <mbelleza> sori im new to this irc
[05:46] <johny> mbelleza: use that link the baot gave you and paste the content there, then save and paste the final link here
[05:47] <mbelleza> i dnt get it...
[05:47] <surgy> devilsadvocate: no thats the irc way of sniping someone in the leg
[05:47] <devilsadvocate> !pastebin | mbelleza
[05:47] <ubotu> mbelleza: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:47] <ernie> anyone know if Konqueror can do Content Searches on Samba shares - its having kittens at the moment
[05:47] <johny> mbelleza: look carefully
[05:47] <Dr_willis> ernie,  you may have ffaster/better luck by mounting the samba shares
[05:48] <johny> mbelleza: http://paste.... you see it?
[05:48] <devilsadvocate> ernie, i dont think it can. yuo can only search a single share
[05:48] <ernie> they is mounted - I'm editing the file where I've cut the search term from...
[05:48] <mbelleza> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4375/
[05:49] <devilsadvocate> ernie, if you want to search the text files the fastest way in the short term iis to mount and do a recursive grep
[05:50] <ernie> ahh ok - the ole fashioned way
[05:50] <devilsadvocate> ernie, if you want a long term soulution, look at beagle
[05:51] <devilsadvocate> problem with beagle is it takes time for it to crawl, so it wont work especially well on smaba shares
[05:51] <ernie> devilsadvocate: ok thanks - shall do
[05:52] <devilsadvocate> ernie, btw, beagle has a gui for kde called kerry and another called yabi .. you dont _have_ to use the gtk one it ships with
[05:53] <johny> mbelleza: try to paste this in terminal and paste what's comes out apt-cache search mplayer --names-only
[05:54] <jean-b> hi there
[05:54] <deathnote> what's the software that drives php when we click on a php file? apache?
[05:54] <mbelleza> !pastebin
[05:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:55] <jean-b> is there an equivalent of skype for kubuntu?
[05:55] <Dr_willis> install skype..
[05:55] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:55] <jean-b> Dr_willis: =)
[05:55] <devilsadvocate> deathnote, its called php :P
[05:55] <Dr_willis> or some of the other net-phone tools (not that ive ever used any of the others)
[05:55] <jean-b> Dr_willis: is there an open source skype?
[05:55] <mbelleza> johny: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4376/
[05:55] <deathnote> devilsadvocate: any idea what user or group when it access files in php?
[05:55] <Dr_willis> jean-b,  not that i know of.
[05:55] <Dr_willis> but i dont skype much any more
[05:56] <devilsadvocate> deathnote, you want to test your php files?
[05:56] <jean-b> Dr_willis: i'm in a foreign country, and i want to get in touch with relatives by phone
[05:56] <devilsadvocate> deathnote, or do you want to do run a server?
[05:56] <jean-b> the most intersting software is skype?
[05:56] <Dr_willis> jean-b,  pc to pc calling.. or pc to real phone?
[05:57] <jean-b> pc to real phone
[05:57] <devilsadvocate> !xampp
[05:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xampp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:57] <deathnote> devilsadvocate: yea i got a php in my server which suppose to read another file.. if i set read access to "others" then it can read..but if i off it it couldn't read
[05:57] <Dr_willis> scype costs money for that now - i belive.
[05:57] <deathnote> devilsadvocate: so now i trying to find out which user is accessing it so i can add in the group
[05:57] <jean-b> yes i know, but it is still good prices
[05:57] <devilsadvocate> deathnote, you have the server software then?
[05:57] <devilsadvocate> ah
[05:58] <devilsadvocate> deathnote, i suppost that would depend on the user that is running apache/php
[05:58] <jean-b> Dr_willis: do you know a free service to call pc to phone?
[05:58] <devilsadvocate> deathnote, i believe usually that is root or a daemon
[05:58] <deathnote> yeah...
[05:58] <deathnote> OHH
[05:58] <deathnote> daemon
[05:58] <deathnote> lemme try
[05:58] <Dr_willis> jean-b,  nope.
[05:58] <mbelleza> hi..deathnote....
[05:59] <geniusvicks> how do I enable java in konqueror?
[05:59] <Dr_willis> !java
[05:59] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[05:59] <Dr_willis> install it.. restart konwueror.. and it should see it.
[05:59] <johny> mbelleza: you have to find good mplayer repository...
[06:00] <jean-b> thanx Dr_willis
[06:00] <jean-b> chao
[06:00] <johny> mbelleza: the package you have to install is "mplayer"
[06:02] <deathnote> wow.. thanks a million!!! its daemon
[06:02] <surgy> mbelleza: do you know how to enable repositorys?
[06:02] <deathnote> i added daemon into my video group.. and restarted apache..it worked
[06:02] <johny> someone knows where to find a good mplayer repository?
[06:02] <surgy> mbelleza: if so then make sure all your repositorys are enabled then "sudo apt-get install mplayer
[06:03] <ForgeAus> hey all
[06:03] <ForgeAus> um having a little bit of trouble again
[06:03] <surgy> hey forgeaus
[06:03] <surgy> !ask
[06:03] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:03] <devilsadvocate> np deathnote
[06:03] <surgy> :)
[06:03] <ForgeAus> trying to use ark to copy a file... but like always I have root priveleges problems
[06:03] <mbelleza> in synaptic right?
[06:03] <ForgeAus> how do I run ark from within ark as su?
[06:04] <johny> mbelleza: yeh but not only
[06:04] <johny> mbelleza: try from synaptic
[06:04] <Dr_willis> ksudo ark or whatever the thing is
[06:04] <Jucato> ForgeAus: kdesu ark
[06:04] <Dr_willis> kdesu ?  i always forget
[06:05] <Jucato> Dr_willis: huh?
[06:05] <Jucato> lol
[06:05] <ForgeAus> I wish if it come across something like "you do not have the priveleges to do that"  it'd just come up a password window instead of forcign me to quit the app backtrack to where I come from, run the program from console with kdesu infront of it each time
[06:05] <surgy> forgeaus: cp [file directory and file]   [the directory and file to copy it to]   like this "cp /user/home/file  /user/home/storage/file"
[06:05] <Dr_willis> bbl
[06:06] <mbelleza> johny: there's alot of mplayer-doc, mozilla-mplayer
[06:06] <Dr_willis> ForgeAus,   figure out a way of doing that then....
[06:06] <Dr_willis> ForgeAus,  its a lot harder task then it seems.
[06:06] <ForgeAus> I think running sudo mc in console is the best file manager!
[06:06] <Dr_willis> ForgeAus,  from what i hear Windows Vista has a simile rfeature to that.. and its constantly nagging people.
[06:06] <ForgeAus> the gui ones you need to set up a root mode one for...
[06:06] <mbelleza> what would i enable???
[06:06] <johny> mbelleza: mbelleza : try to find "mplayer" without nothing
[06:06] <Dr_willis> ForgeAus,  thats EXactly   what i use.. mc in a terminal.
[06:06] <ForgeAus> Dr Willis yeah I heard
[06:07] <mbelleza> theres no mplayer
[06:07] <Dr_willis> ForgeAus,  given the Amount of spyware/malware out there.. i think limiting users.. is a good thing
[06:07] <Dr_willis> !info mplayer
[06:07] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre8-0ubuntu8 (edgy), package size 3461 kB, installed size 8624 kB
[06:07] <ForgeAus> Dr Willis I just wish there was a gui app that I could drag and drop files and not have things constantly complain I can't do this because of root priveleges with no way to get around it but exit the app and rerun it
[06:07] <geniusvicks> how do I enable java in konqueror?
[06:07] <ForgeAus> (as a diff user)
[06:07] <johny> mbelleza: what wersion of Ubuntu are you using?
[06:07] <Dr_willis> ForgeAus,  amazing thing is.. for me.. i rarely have to do ANYTHING as root user  these days...
[06:08] <mbelleza> im using kubuntu
[06:08] <Dr_willis> ForgeAus,  perhaps edit a /etc/ file every once in a while...
[06:08] <ForgeAus> Dr Willis ur lucky then
[06:08] <ForgeAus> yeah them too
[06:08] <ForgeAus> like my fstab
[06:08] <Dr_willis> but i got the system setup..  and it just runs and runs.. :)
[06:08] <ForgeAus> and stuff
[06:08] <mbelleza> 6
[06:08] <ForgeAus> I'm not so concerned about the system if it falls over I got support here and the LiveCD to help get it back up
[06:09] <johny> mbelleza: ok, but which one "Edgy Eft" "Dapper"?
[06:09] <johny> !Dapper
[06:09] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu.  Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".
[06:09] <johny> !Dapper|mbelezza
[06:09] <ubotu> mbelezza: please see above
[06:09] <johny> !Edgy|mbelezza
[06:09] <ubotu> mbelezza: Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[06:10] <ernie> devilsadvocate: I solved the problem by mounting the share and searching through that - Its now finding things :)
[06:10] <devilsadvocate> Dr_willis, then i would say you arent having enough fun :P
[06:10] <devilsadvocate> ernie, searching using?
[06:10] <Dr_willis> devilsadvocate,  off to play some Oblivion i think. :) i got the game.. and havent played it much.. byeeee. :)
[06:10] <ernie> konqueror - it has trouble do a content search on a samba share
[06:11] <surgy> mbelleza: what is the problem your having exactly?
[06:11] <devilsadvocate> ernie, ah. great :P
[06:11] <ernie> its all good when its mounted
[06:11] <devilsadvocate> :)
[06:11] <ForgeAus> well kinda feisty is the latest but its still in alpha (or is it beta) mode
[06:11] <ForgeAus> Iv'e never heard of a delta or gamma app... lol
[06:11] <matt0507> my search feature from the kmenu doesnt work, i even specfied a folder full of that porn files and when i clicked search it finds nothing, but when i try locate: in konqueror it works fine,anyone know whats wrong with the search feture?
[06:12] <ernie> beagle was going to be a real bugga to install - went for the path of least hair pulling :)
[06:12] <mbelleza> surgy: i want to view my .flv video...
[06:13] <surgy> !.flv
[06:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:13] <mbelleza> i cant update this computer..coz its not mine..this is own by our company
[06:14] <devilsadvocate> ForgeAus, its alpha. and there is no gamma or delta
[06:14] <surgy> mbelleza: do this for me: open a terminal and type: sudo apt-get install mplayer
[06:14] <johny> mbelleza: look here :https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#head-8a18d4250a1c368b58239ba0d6fcc4e5639fa42f
[06:14] <surgy> mbelleza: and then got to www.pastebin.ca and paste everything out of that window and then give me the url of the paste so that i can look at it and see if you need a repo or you have errors
[06:15] <mbelleza> ok..tanx to all
[06:15] <mbelleza> tanx to johny..surgy...ubotu....
[06:17] <johny> mbelleza: is everything ok now?
[06:18] <ForgeAus> hmmm why doesn't ark automatically run kdesu for me? when it comes across a privileges thing?
[06:18] <surgy> mbelleza: its working now?
[06:18] <hardtofindanick> for some odd reason katapult doesn't work all of a sudden
[06:18] <hardtofindanick> any ideas anyone?
[06:18] <ForgeAus> if I don't have or know the pass then I don't get in... thats fine no trouble there..
[06:18] <mbelleza> not yet...
[06:18] <ernie> hardtofindanick: is the rubber band broken?
[06:18] <hardtofindanick> ernie: rubber band?
[06:19] <johny> mbelleza: now you know how to make it work?
[06:19] <ernie> well thats more suited to a sling shot :)
[06:19] <mbelleza> yah..but il try...
[06:19] <johny> someone who's got "mplayer" in the repos could paste all the link ready to be pasted do sources.list. It could help
[06:20] <hardtofindanick> ernie: what is a rubber band?
[06:20] <bill57785> http://www.psp-programming.com/code/doku.php?id=c:tool_chain_on_linux
[06:20] <bill57785> how do I get the packages it mentions I need to install
[06:20] <surgy> johny: do you know what your doing? becuase that last sentence didnt make any sense
[06:20] <ernie> hardtofindanick: dont worry - it was my poor attempt at being funny
[06:20] <devilsadvocate> mplayer is in universe/main/multiverse i believe. all i did was to uncomment the lines to install more or less everything i needed
[06:21] <hardtofindanick> ernie: sorry, I just didn't get it :$
[06:21] <hardtofindanick> ernie: anyway, any ideas?
[06:21] <bill57785> everytime I got to install something, it always give me that commend to put in, but then it tells me those files dont exist so it cant be installed
[06:21] <johny> surgy: why? We need only alink from someone's repos to "mplayer" package, am I right?
[06:22] <devilsadvocate> hardtofindanick, details of the problem?
[06:22] <surgy> johny: no
[06:22] <hardtofindanick> devilsadvocate: well, Alt-Space all of a sudden doesn't bring up katapult anymore
[06:22] <johny> surgy: explain then
[06:22] <hardtofindanick> devilsadvocate: if I type katapult in the console, I get the message that it is running
[06:22] <surgy> johny: a link to someones repos package mplayer doesnt make any sense a repository is where you get your packages from and in this case the package is called mplayer
[06:22] <hardtofindanick> devilsadvocate: but it doesn't work
[06:23] <word> Hobbsee: I changed some things in the bios including forcing the memory to ddr400 which got it to just above my old performance i'm going to upgrade to fiesty (have no patience ;p) and see if that does even more for it.
[06:23] <devilsadvocate> hardtofindanick, i'd say the problem is with your keybindings and not katapult
[06:23] <hardtofindanick> devilsadvocate: why did the key bindings change all of a sudden?
[06:23] <surgy> johny: and sense the package is called "mplayer" and he has all of his repositorys activated then all he has to do is "sudo apt-get install mplayer" and it will download and install the package mplayer as root
[06:23] <hardtofindanick> devilsadvocate: how do I change them back?
[06:23] <johny> surgy: didn't get it, sorry
[06:23] <devilsadvocate> hardtofindanick, look at the katapult settings and anything where you may have edited the keybinding
[06:24] <hardtofindanick> devilsadvocate: you are talking to a newbie, how do I get to the katapult settings?
[06:24] <johny> surgy: but he's already tried to do it and apt-get broke
[06:24] <ernie> hardtofindanick: when you get your katapault running - try running from within your KDE - it bings up a picture of a slingshot for some reason :)
[06:24] <bill57785> anyone at all that can help me?
[06:25] <devilsadvocate> hardtofindanick, most kde applications have their settings in one of the menus on the top of the window, called 'configure k****'
[06:25] <johny> surgy: the problem was she/he didn't have "mplayer" package after apt-cache search --names-only
[06:25] <surgy> johny: lol you should look into it, and "apt-get broke" doesnt work well here its too vague. you need to use pastebin and give us errors to look at
[06:25] <devilsadvocate> hardtofindanick,otherwise maybe you can rightclick and try
[06:25] <hardtofindanick> devilsadvocate: but what am I clicking on? katapult just runs in the background doesn't it?
[06:26] <devilsadvocate> hardtofindanick, i havent used katapult much :) . doesnt it open a window of some sort?
[06:26] <johny> surgy: I know it's already've been pasted
[06:26] <devilsadvocate> you say it works from the terminal?
[06:26] <surgy> johny: that means that he is missing the required repository in /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:26] <hardtofindanick> devilsadvocate: no, it just shows the box that it is running
[06:27] <johny> surgy: hi man, high time
[06:27] <devilsadvocate> hardtofindanick, then right click on the box
[06:27] <hardtofindanick> devilsadvocate: its just a tooltip, it doesnt' give any options
[06:27] <johny> surgy: I proposed to give to msbelezza one's repos with good directions to mplayer
[06:27] <hardtofindanick> devilsadvocate: try it, type katapult in the console and you'll see
[06:28] <johny> surgy: If i'm not right, correct me it's perfectly ok to me.
[06:28] <devilsadvocate> hardtofindanick, try folling around with thaat icon - click, double click, right click. thats basicaly where you can access it now. if not, try to restart your computer.. it_might_ help
[06:28] <devilsadvocate> s/folling/fooling
[06:28] <Fenix-Dark> hi
[06:29] <hardtofindanick> brb
[06:29] <devilsadvocate> hardtofindanick, not on kde now
[06:29] <Fenix-Dark> is that kwireless setup utility kubuntu only?
[06:29] <surgy> johny: i was told not to do that, by someone i forgot who, but if you accidently gave them a bad repo or something of that nature you could screw everything up
[06:29] <zakame> afternoon all
[06:30] <johny> surgy: ah ok, is there any solution to that, I tried to find mplayer's repos on the web. Maybe you know a page?
[06:30] <specialbuddy> how do I change the kdm them
[06:31] <Jucato> !changethemes | specialbuddy
[06:31] <ubotu> specialbuddy: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[06:31] <zakame> for great justice
[06:32] <surgy> johny: it should be in the multiverse universe or restricted modules, they are allready in your sources.list you just need to uncomment them
[06:32] <Jucato> zakame: ??
[06:32] <Jucato> zakame: wrong channel? :P
[06:32] <johny> mbelleza: have you got all the repositories unblocked?
[06:32] <zakame> Jucato: no, just agreeing with ubotu :P
[06:32] <Jucato> lol
[06:33] <johny> surgy: yeah but mbelezza doesn't know what version of kubuntu is using...
[06:33] <johny> surgy: any way to find that out?
[06:33] <surgy> when did he download it?
[06:34] <mbelleza> no
[06:34] <Jucato> "lsb_release -a"
[06:34] <johny> surgy: I was going to ask if sh's here
[06:34] <johny> mbelleza: when did you download Kubuntu?
[06:35] <specialbuddy> so what is fiesty going to have that edgy doesn't?
[06:35] <mbelleza> last december 2006
[06:35] <devilsadvocate> specialbuddy, kde3.5.6 for starters
[06:35] <johny> Jucato: thanks
[06:35] <surgy> if he downloaded recently he has kubuntu edgy 6.10
[06:36] <Jucato> mbelleza: try running this command in Konsole to see your Kubuntu version: lsb_release -a
[06:36] <surgy> mbelleza: maybe its time to get the new cd image?
[06:36] <devilsadvocate> surgy, that isnt entirely necessary. dapper and edgy are show side by side ...
[06:36] <johny> mbelleza: paste this in your terminal and tell us what comes out lsb_release -a
[06:36] <mbelleza> johny: ok
[06:36] <specialbuddy> devilsadvocate, what's good about that?
[06:36] <mbelleza> johny: 6.06
[06:37] <devilsadvocate> specialbuddy, its newer. a few less bugs, a few more features
[06:37] <mbelleza> !pastebin
[06:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:37] <specialbuddy> oh
[06:37] <manchicken> devilsadvocate: I wouldn't encourage people to move to feisty yet.
[06:37] <manchicken> There are still some serious issues.
[06:37] <surgy> devilsadvocate: when i first tried linux it was on dapper, and i found it a bit harder, for some reason but it might just be me
[06:37] <devilsadvocate> manchicken, neither do i
[06:37] <mbelleza> johny: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4379/
[06:37] <johny> mbelleza: you can add the page ypu paste on to the favourities
[06:38] <manchicken> Oh... nevermind.  I totally read that wrong.
[06:38] <manchicken> My ad.
[06:38] <devilsadvocate> he just asked what fiesty _will_ have
[06:38] <devilsadvocate> np
[06:38] <manchicken> bad*
[06:38] <manchicken> Yeah, just fixed a nasty issue with adept yesterday ^_^
[06:38] <manchicken> heh
[06:38] <Mena> what is the deffrent between  beryl  with XGL and beryl with AIGLX
[06:38] <johny> mbelleza: you're using dapper, remember that Kubuntu Dapper
[06:38] <draik> !beryl | Mena
[06:38] <ubotu> Mena: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:38] <manchicken> Okay, bed time.
[06:39] <mbelleza> yes
[06:39] <johny> surgy: she's using dapper, does it change sth?
[06:39] <surgy> johny: not sure on that one
[06:39] <surgy> johny: to be honest i dont know what sth is
[06:40] <neil> anyone know if there is a shockwave player for linux?
[06:40] <johny> surgy: Sorry i meant something
[06:40] <angasule> !shockwave
[06:40] <ubotu> Shockwave is currently only available for Windows. To run it under !Wine, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[06:41] <devilsadvocate> mbelleza, open up a terminal, type "sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list" . in the text file that opens up, remove the '#' from the beginning of all pf the lines that start with the word "deb"
[06:41] <neil> ok where do i get wine>
[06:41] <surgy> johny it means he is using an old version, if he upgrades to edgy he will have the latest version with the latest stable security fixes and software support
[06:41] <devilsadvocate> neil, look at gFlashPlayer
[06:41] <devilsadvocate> surgy, that is not true. dapper is LTS
[06:41] <surgy> neil: sudo apt-get install wine
[06:41] <neil> i am using kubuntu 6.10
[06:42] <surgy> devilsadvocate: johny: i stand currected
[06:42] <johny> surgy: so apt-get dist-upgrade . right?
[06:43] <surgy> johny: i have never done an upgrade i backup everything and then download the new live cd burn it and reinstall
[06:43] <neil> says apt command not found
[06:43] <surgy> johny: devilsadvocate knows way more than i do about this and he said your fine with dapper
[06:43] <Jucato> neil: it's "sudo apt-get install wine"
[06:43] <surgy> neil: audo apt-get install wine                 make sure it is exact
[06:44] <surgy> sudo*
[06:44] <surgy> man i cant type
[06:44] <johny> devilsadvocate: I was thinking of givig to mbelezza this http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[06:44] <neil> package wine has no installation canidate
[06:44] <johny> surgy: Ok
[06:45] <sts9> alright, anyone have issues with amarok 1.4.5 and their iPod?  just talked to the amarok people and they said it updated its libgpod requirements to .0.4.2     Im using feisty and still its 0.4.0  so thats prob why its not working
[06:45] <ForgeAus> what glibc has kubuntu edgy got?
[06:45] <mbelleza> johny: all the lines that strt with deb has no # at the beginning
[06:45] <ForgeAus> 2.3.2?
[06:45] <sts9> so Im assuming the edgy people could have the same problem
[06:45] <johny> mbelleza: which is perfectly fine
[06:45] <devilsadvocate> johny, sure. but i dont think its necessary
[06:46] <devilsadvocate> mbelleza, 'all' of them?
[06:46] <johny> devilsadvocate: no, now i know that she's got all the repos unblocked
[06:46] <mbelleza> johny: yap....
[06:46] <wheatie> glibc-2.3.6-2
[06:46] <surgy> neil: you need to add your repos
[06:46] <devilsadvocate> mbelleza, do "sudo apt-get update"
[06:46] <mbelleza> ok
[06:47] <neil> i am doing the update thing
[06:47] <johny> mbelleza: and then try to install mplayer by sudo apt-get install mplayer
[06:47] <devilsadvocate> mbelleza, johny then do "sudo apt-get install mplayer" and post the errors on pastebin
[06:47] <sheldonc> has anybody successfully installed kubuntu to an external usb drive ?
[06:48] <mbelleza> !pastebin
[06:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:48] <mbelleza> johny: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4380/
[06:48] <neil> i really appreciate you guys on this channel. you are very helpfull. i just installed yesterday and kinda got it working today.
[06:49] <neil> how do i get my repos or whatever?
[06:49] <devilsadvocate> mbelleza, can you patebin your sources.list please?
[06:49] <mbelleza> ok
[06:49] <devilsadvocate> neil, /etc/apt/source.list is your apt sources list
[06:50] <surgy> neil: type sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list          and then remove the # from everyline that says #deb
[06:50] <mbelleza> !pastebin
[06:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:50] <devilsadvocate> neil, s/source/sources
[06:50] <neil> sounds good how do i edit the file?
[06:50] <mbelleza> johny:
[06:50] <mbelleza> johny: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4381/
[06:51] <mbelleza> devilsadvocate: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4381/
[06:51] <devilsadvocate> neil, sudo kate (or nano or vi) <filename>
[06:51] <mbelleza> that is my sources.list
[06:51] <neil> ok thank you
[06:51] <devilsadvocate> mbelleza, that list can cause serious breakage, you are using dapper / hoary / warty all at the same time
[06:52] <surgy> lol
[06:52] <surgy> not good
[06:52] <devilsadvocate> mbelleza, remove the last line from your sources.list
[06:52] <neil> its still doing the upgrade so i will have to wait
[06:52] <surgy> devilsadvocate: does edgy automaticly back up the sources.list?
[06:53] <devilsadvocate> surgy, edgy is a distribution. it has nothing todo with backing up the list
[06:53] <mbelleza> devilsadvocate: ill just put # sign to the last line..is it ok??
[06:53] <devilsadvocate> mbelleza, sure. while you're at it., i'd suggest doing the same for the 2nd last line
[06:54] <surgy> devilsadvocate: i was refering to the kubuntu operating system, sorry for the bad use of proper words.
[06:54] <devilsadvocate> surgy, still incorrect. its the app which edits the list that should back it up.
[06:55] <mbelleza> devilsadvocate: im afraid it will cause damage to the compt
[06:55] <neil> how often should i run this update thing?
[06:55] <mbelleza> devilsadvocate: this is not mine...this is company's unit
[06:55] <surgy> oh
[06:55] <devilsadvocate> mbelleza, the last line you can remove safely
[06:55] <mbelleza> devilsadvocate: but wat about the last second line??
[06:55] <surgy> devilsadvocate: it whould be nice if it was incorperated into the OS though along with fstab and xorge. so that we could have restore points :)
[06:56] <devilsadvocate> the 2nd last one is a non-standard repo, and i dont know which packages you are using from it
[06:56] <devilsadvocate> mbelleza, ok. leave the 2nd last as is.
[06:56] <johny> devilsadvocate: she's got multiverse category in backports, is it correct
[06:57] <mbelleza> devilsadvocate: ok try...hope this will work
[06:57] <devilsadvocate> i guess. its unlikely she added it herself
[06:58] <devilsadvocate> johey, it might be easier and safer to give her the sources.list generator
[06:58] <devilsadvocate> there is some insane breakage here
[06:58] <johny> devilsadvocate: i thought so
[06:58] <surgy> neil: after you do the big update adept will tell you when the smaller updates are available
[06:58] <johey> devilsadvocate: Still, I don't see how I am involved. ;)
[06:59] <rexbron> !sshfs
[06:59] <ubotu> sshfs: filesystem client based on SSH File Transfer Protocol. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6-1 (edgy), package size 29 kB, installed size 116 kB
[06:59] <johny> mbelleza: go to http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/ and try to generate the file filling all the matches
[06:59] <neil> how long does this update thing take>
[07:00] <johny> mbelleza: your release is 6.06 Dapper
[07:00] <neil> no 6.10 edgy
[07:00] <neil> sorry thought you were talking to me
[07:00] <johny> neil: np
[07:00] <surgy> gaim can chat with msn clients right?
[07:01] <surgy> i dont like kopete
[07:01] <neil> i use kopete is gaim better?
[07:01] <surgy> neil: its personal preference
[07:01] <neil> i see
[07:02] <rexbron> hey I am having some trouble with sshfs
[07:02] <neil> kopete is the only one i have tried so i guess its my preference. lol
[07:02] <rexbron> I am mounting it to /media/rampage
[07:02] <johny> for me kopete has all , but surgy is right- personal preference
[07:02] <rexbron> but I get this:
[07:02] <rexbron> root@mayhem:/media# cd rampage
[07:02] <rexbron> bash: cd: rampage: Permission denied
[07:02] <rexbron> wft
[07:02] <rexbron> or rather wtf ftw
[07:03] <surgy> rexbron: your permissions on the mount point are set to where root cant read it?
[07:04] <johny> mbelleza: you know how is your computer architecture?
[07:05] <neil> how long does this update thing take?
[07:05] <surgy> neil:depends on your hardware and i-net connection
[07:05] <neil> its at get:62 do you know how far it goes?
[07:06] <rexbron> surgy: cd claimes that it is not a dir, even though I just mkdir'd it and then tries to sshfs to mount on it
[07:06] <surgy> neil: nope it told you how many packages close to the beginning
[07:06] <neil> oh i must have missed it. i will scroll back and look.
[07:06] <surgy> rexbaron: sorry i dont know anything about that, my first assumption was a guess at best
[07:06] <neil> i feel so dumb. lol
[07:07] <mbelleza> johny: what's that for?????
[07:07] <neil> holy 103 packages
[07:07] <johny> mbelleza: what you mean ?
[07:07] <surgy> neil: and your on 62 :)
[07:08] <neil> well 68 now
[07:08] <surgy> neil: over halfway
[07:08] <johny> mbelleza: i send you a link to sources generator
[07:08] <neil> ya it should be done by morning
[07:08] <neil> lol
[07:08] <surgy> neil: are you on dial up?
[07:08] <neil> how often do you do this upgrade thing
[07:08] <neil> every day or when?
[07:10] <surgy> neil: adept will tell you when updates are needed
[07:10] <surgy> neil: consider this first long upgrade like windows xp getting sp2
[07:10] <neil> what is adept?
[07:10] <Mena> !kdm theme
[07:10] <ubotu> kdm: X display manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 611 kB, installed size 1480 kB
[07:10] <neil> i see
[07:10] <surgy> adept is the package manager that is defualt on kubuntu, it is the gui way of doing what you are doing now
[07:11] <neil> i can do this upgrade through the gui and dont have to do it through the terminal window?
[07:11] <mbelleza> johny: i copied the sources.list which is the multimedia package..but error occurs looking for mplayer package
[07:12] <surgy> neil: yes, but if it takes a long time i whould suggest using the terminal. i find adept to be a little unstable, so if its not just a quick download i use terminal
[07:13] <neil> ok i will remember that. thank you for the info
[07:13] <surgy> no problem
[07:15] <neil> can i run 2 terminal windows at the same time? like edit the source file and do the upgrade together?
[07:15] <surgy> neil: yes
[07:15] <neil> it wont hurt anything?
[07:16] <surgy> neil: but if you try to access apt again it will be locked
[07:16] <neil> oh so you cant use the same command at the same time but you can use anyother command
[07:16] <surgy> and i might be wrong here but i think you can only sudo one instance of a given file at a time
[07:17] <surgy> for instance you cant sudo kate /user/home/poop in one window and do it again in another but i might be wrong
[07:17] <neil> ok no prob but i can do the update and sudo kate the source file at the same time
[07:17] <surgy> but you can sudo kate [another file besides poop] 
[07:17] <Jucato> kdesu kate
[07:17] <surgy> i whouldnt
[07:17] <Jucato> !kdesu
[07:17] <Jucato> bot lag...
[07:17] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[07:17] <johny_> mbelleza: how's going there?
[07:17] <surgy> oh
[07:18] <surgy> neil: dont chnage your sources.list while apt is using it thats bad
[07:18] <neil> ok so wait till the update is done
[07:19] <surgy> i whould
[07:19] <neil> ok well i am going to leave it work by itsself and i am going to go to bed. i will see it tomorrow when its done.
[07:19] <surgy> ok good night
[07:19] <neil> thank all you people for your help.
[07:20] <neil> i will learn eventually. i just installed yesterday and finished today so i am very new to this/
[07:20] <SovietKid> is there a way to intergrate konversation with firefox, so when i click an irc link it opens in knoversation?
[07:20] <SovietKid> konversation*
[07:21] <surgy> neil: i am still a noob, and everyone here was once
[07:21] <neil> well thanks again and have a great night.
[07:22] <surgy> sovietkid: not that i know of, but i think there are irc plug ins for firefox, also you might look at opera, it has a nice irc client and bitt torrent client built in
[07:22] <SovietKid> okay thanks
[07:22] <SovietKid> ill look into it
[07:28] <surgy> good night slaves of linus, and sweet dreams........
[07:29] <deathnote> anyone knows why my ktorrent keel stalling ? i have to manual annouce after some time
[07:29] <shdwghst457> anyone here able to help me with getting a GUI running on an emac?
[07:29] <n8k99> ./configure can not find X includes - how do I fix that?
[07:30] <Jucato> n8k99: install xorg-dev
[07:30] <n8k99> thanx
[07:30] <shdwghst457> xorg.conf is what i'm told my emac problem is but i dont know what to do to fix it
[07:31] <n8k99> shdwghst457 you have been able to login into a terminal screen, right?
[07:32] <shdwghst457> i boot from the live cd and hit enter, it goes through a long load screen and then when it tries to boot the gui it says it cant
[07:32] <n8k99> then where does it take you?
[07:33] <shdwghst457> to a terrible bluish screen that tells me something's wrong with the xorg.conf file (emac display is an unusual dimension)
[07:34] <n8k99> what happens when you ctrl-alt-f1 ?
[07:34] <shdwghst457> it seems to be a common problem on the emac but i just dont know how to fix it
[07:34] <shdwghst457> will ctrl alt f1 work on a mac?
[07:34] <n8k99> it did on my powerbook
[07:34] <shdwghst457> hm do you have aim?
[07:35] <n8k99> yeah- same nick
[07:36] <ForgeAus> !wine
[07:36] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:37] <deathnote> anyone knows why my ktorrent keep stalling ? i have to manual annouce after some time.. my internet is stable no disconnect at all..
[07:38] <deathnote> shdwghst457: u installing kubuntu on ur mac?
[07:43] <Mena> !kdm theme
[07:43] <ubotu> kdm: X display manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 611 kB, installed size 1480 kB
[07:44] <Jucato> Mena: ?
[07:44] <Mena> jucato, yes ahh.. what is the command for installing kdm
[07:44] <Mena> what its name
[07:44] <Mena> kdm theme ?
[07:44] <Jucato> !kdmtheme
[07:44] <ubotu> kdmtheme: theme manager for KDM. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.2-1 (edgy), package size 100 kB, installed size 264 kB
[07:44] <Jucato> that one?
[07:44] <Jucato> KDM is already installed by default.
[07:45] <Jucato> kdmtheme is a GUI KDM Theme manager
[07:45] <Mena> no no the login screen manager
[07:45] <Jucato> Mena: did you remove it?
[07:45] <Mena> jucato, no
[07:45] <Jucato> Mena: what are you trying to do?
[07:45] <Mena> jucato, i wanted ti install new login screen and i forget the name
[07:46] <Jucato> kdmtheme
[07:46] <jordo23> Jucato: Do you know of a KDE/QT paint program that supports .TGA?  For second life?
[07:46] <Jucato> it lets you add new KDM themes
[07:46] <Jucato> KDM = login screen
[07:46] <Mena> jucato, okay
[07:46] <Jucato> jordo23: not really sure. can't open with Krita?
[07:46] <jordo23> Jucato: Can't save to that format in Krita...
[07:47] <ForgeAus> so instead of the purple login screen you can alter it to look like other things
[07:47] <Jucato> jordo23: try export?
[07:47] <jordo23> Does installing the Gimp install the entire GTK library?
[07:47] <jordo23> No....will try now...
[07:47] <ForgeAus> ark linux is interesting
[07:47] <ForgeAus> uses kynaptic
[07:47] <Saints> im in using kubuntu in feisty ...how do you get the taskbar to show apps from only that desktop....rather than all desktops?
[07:47] <ForgeAus> and introduced me to platero (ala kde mldonkey front end)
[07:48] <Jucato> Saints: right-click on the panel -> Configure Panel -> Taskbar options
[07:48] <jordo23> Jucato: Nope....cant export in Krita to .tga....
[07:48] <Mena> jucato, the utiltie to add new one wich i was can open from Kcontrol>>>appearnce>>KDM theme
[07:48] <Jucato> jordo23: not really sure what else there is.... alhough it might due to a bug in KOffice 1.6.x
[07:48] <deathnote> !limewire
[07:48] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[07:48] <Jucato> Mena: kdmtheme
[07:48] <Saints> jucato.....i dont see an option for that in the in taskbar options....
[07:49] <Jucato> Mena: also, it's KControl - Administration -> KDM Theme Manager
[07:49] <jordo23> !FrostWire
[07:49] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[07:49] <Saints> just sort alphabetically, minimized windows, application icons, window list button
[07:49] <Jucato> Saints: [ ]  Show windows from all desktops?
[07:49] <Jucato> Saints: do you have a taskbar at all?
[07:49] <Saints> sure
[07:49] <Mena> jucato , why i cant install it
[07:49] <Jucato> the taskbar applet, I mean
[07:49] <Jucato> Mena: what do you mean?
[07:50] <Mena> jucato , last time used it ....to use it i installed that utiltie to change the login
[07:50] <Jucato> Mena: yes. I know. what do you mean "can't install it"
[07:50] <Jucato> Saints: the Panel is not the taskbar, so you might have a panel, but no taskbar applet
[07:50] <Saints> ah how do i get the taskbar applet?
[07:51] <Mena> jucato, yes and i know that but how i try too many ways of commands
[07:51] <Jucato> Mena: sudo apt-get install kdmtheme
[07:51] <Jucato> Mena: or use Adept
[07:51] <Jucato> Saints: right-click on the panel -> Add Applet to Panel -> look for Taskbar and click Add to Panel
[07:52] <Mena> he couldnt find it do i need to add repos
[07:53] <Jucato> Mena: make sure universe is enabled
[07:53] <Mena> okay
[07:53] <Saints> hmm i tried that and i do have a taskbar...i can see icons for opened apps on the taskbar...but it shows all the apps from all desktops...
[07:53] <Mena> i didnt guess that it would be the reason ..ok
[07:53] <Jucato> Saints: now look at the Taskbar options again
[07:54] <Saints> right click configure panel - taskbar ...i have 4 boxes i can check (alphabetically, minimized windows, application icons, window list button)
[07:55] <Jucato> Saints: hm... strange...
[07:55] <Saints> along with gruop similar task, appearance, and actions for left, middle and right button
[07:55] <Saints> yeah...maybe chane in feisty?
[07:55] <Jucato> might be a bug in feisty. in any case, try asking in #ubuntu+1
[07:55] <Saints> i havent used kde in awhile..been using gnome..but using kde again...usually right click and taskbar option ...has that for show all windows
[07:55] <Saints> thanks
[07:56] <n8k99> so now ./configure can not find kde
[07:56] <Jucato> Saints: why using feisty?
[07:56] <Jucato> n8k99: install kde-devel
[07:56] <n8k99> yeah thought you were gonna say that!
[07:56] <Jucato> :P
[07:57] <n8k99> :P your self ;-)
[07:57] <Mena> jucato ,Yoy use beryl right
[07:58] <Mena> jucato ,You*
[07:58] <Jucato> Mena: no
[07:58] <Saints> ah ...i dont know...i like it so far :)
[07:58] <Mena> jucato ,okay
[07:58] <Saints> i dual boot with edgy...but use feisty more these days
[07:59] <Mena> cool you can use the both
[07:59] <Jucato> Saints: given that feisty is still alpha, a lot of things are bound to be broken/missing/not working properly
[07:59] <Saints> gotcha....
[07:59] <Jucato> so it shouldn't come as a surprise. all that's needed is to confirm/report bugs, in #ubuntu+1
[07:59] <Saints> im just hoping they didnt disable that feature...it would be dumb
[08:00] <Jucato> of course they didn't/won't
[08:00] <Jucato> it's obviously a bug
[08:01] <Saints> im thinking a bug just wouldn't work...not have that option completely gone
[08:01] <Saints> but i hope you're right jucato
[08:01] <Jucato> n8k99: heh, unfortunately, karma has been a bit reduced
[08:01] <Jucato> Saints: bug = anything that makes a program not work the way it's supposed to
[08:01] <n8k99> yeah, they was compounding it daily!
[08:01] <Jucato> otherwise, we call it a "feature" :)
[08:02] <ForgeAus> lol
[08:03] <ForgeAus> karma?
[08:03] <Jucato> Launchpad thingy
[08:03] <n8k99> sort of like nerdpoints
[08:03] <ForgeAus> ohhh kay... dunno much about it
[08:05] <ForgeAus> fiesty should get mldonkey and platero... easier than installing the manual way like I've been trying to
[08:06] <ForgeAus> !mldonkey
[08:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mldonkey - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:06] <ForgeAus> awww
[08:07] <Jucato> !kmldonkey
[08:07] <ubotu> kmldonkey: KDE GUI for MLDonkey. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.1-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 853 kB, installed size 2932 kB
[08:14] <neil> quick question for someone
[08:15] <neil> why when i put in my root password wont it let me change my network settings and stuff. i am running kubuntu 6.10
[08:16] <neil> why when i put in my root password wont it let me change my network settings and stuff. i am running kubuntu 6.10
[08:16] <neil> why when i put in my root password wont it let me change my network settings and stuff. i am running kubuntu 6.10
[08:17] <xsacha> neil: sudo password ..
[08:18] <neil> ok i will try that again
[08:18] <neil> thank you
[08:19] <orient2000> Anybody has an idea what to do with this link /./?
[08:19] <orient2000> W: Failed to fetch http://ubuntusoftware.info/./gaim-data_1-0x1.9df1a08932275p-22.0.0+beta6-0ubuntu4_all.deb
[08:19] <orient2000>   404 Not Found
[08:19] <orient2000> W: Failed to fetch http://ubuntusoftware.info/./gaim-data_1-0x1.9df1a08932275p-22.0.0+beta6-0ubuntu4_all.deb
[08:19] <orient2000>   404 Not Found
[08:19] <neil> now it wont let me edit and it doesnt even ask me for the password
[08:21] <geno-irssi> is anyone around?
[08:23] <geno-irssi> anyone awake mind helping me?
[08:24] <malik> geno-irssi: whats goin on?
[08:25] <orient2000> can you tell me your problem? I just loged in.
[08:25] <geno-irssi> for some reason, whenever im in the console
[08:26] <geno-irssi> (either log on console, or press ctrl-alt-fx)
[08:26] <geno-irssi> like not in x
[08:26] <geno-irssi> i have lines going horizontally down my screen
[08:26] <geno-irssi> and im not sure why :/
[08:27] <malik> have u tried restarting x server?
[08:27] <geno-irssi> yea, but I dont think thats it
[08:27] <geno-irssi> considering im not in x
[08:27] <geno-irssi> x runs fine
[08:27] <geno-irssi> its just in the fullscreen console :/
[08:29] <geno-irssi> i know its not a lot of information :/
[08:29] <geno-irssi> i figured i would give it a try
[08:29] <orient2000> what kind of lines? letters? text? or just lines?
[08:30] <geno-irssi> just lines really
[08:30] <geno-irssi> as you can see im in irssi...
[08:30] <geno-irssi> and it has the blue header at the top
[08:30] <geno-irssi> so there are blue lines going all the way down my screen
[08:31] <geno-irssi> if im not in irssi, then there are black lines going down the screen :/
[08:31] <orient2000> maybe it is wrong frequency of a monitor. Do you have auto button on yor monitor? try lower the resolution...
[08:32] <geno-irssi> laptop screen
[08:32] <geno-irssi> hmm
[08:32] <orient2000> lower the resolution
[08:32] <geno-irssi> how can I lower it from console
[08:32] <geno-irssi> ?
[08:33] <orient2000> lower from desktop and then try console
[08:33] <orient2000> goto system settings
[08:34] <orient2000> and then to monitor
[08:35] <geno-irssi> well the resolution in x is fine :/
[08:36] <orient2000> maybe is fine but driver maybe can not handle correctly. Maybe be you have to correct refreshing frequency of a screen.
[08:37] <orient2000> If you lower resolution to 480x768 and problem disapear that mens you have this problem.
[08:38] <geno-irssi> ah
[08:38] <deathnote> i've got this error kernel: saa7134[0] /audio: audio carrier scan failed, using 5.500 MHz [default] 
[08:38] <geno-irssi> alrighty
[08:38] <geno-irssi> ill give it a try
[08:38] <geno-irssi> also deathnote is great :)
[08:38] <geno-irssi> thanks orient2000
[08:39] <deathnote> what does it mean? my /dev/ doesn't have saa7134[0] 
[08:40] <orient2000> about saa7134. This is a v4l2/OSS device driver for saa7130/34 based capture / TV ... Note that the saa7134 driver also is included in the 2.6.x kernels. ...
[08:44] <dinosaur-rus> hi
[08:47] <Ch1ppy> Hello, I just installed Kubuntu and I don't have any sound, which is strange because my previous install (Ubuntu 6.06 upgraded to 6.10 with KDE installed) had great sound.  Can anyone help me out?
[08:47] <Alzi2> How to play FLV files on kubuntu?
[08:47] <deathnote> hi sir, i'm using 2.4.20-xfs kernel for my machine..hehe
[08:47] <dinosaur-rus> Alzi2: use mplayer
[08:48] <Alzi2> Isn't there any codec for it? I mean.. for kaffeine?
[08:48] <dinosaur-rus> Ch1ppy: does testing in KDE Control Center work?
[08:48] <deathnote> [15:40]  <orient2000> about saa7134. This is a v4l2/OSS device driver for saa7130/34 based capture / TV ... Note that the saa7134 driver also is included in the 2.6.x kernels. ... <-- i'm using a 2.4.20-xfs ..what should i do?
[08:48] <Ch1ppy> dinosaur-rus: nope
[08:48] <dinosaur-rus> Alzi2: oh... I don't use Kaffeine :P
[08:49] <Jucato> Alzi2: if you have mplayer installed, you can let Kaffeine use mplayer as the engine instead of xine. not sure if that will let you play .flv in kaffeine
[08:49] <Alzi2> Jucato: Oh, that's neato!
[08:49] <dinosaur-rus> Ch1ppy: hmm
[08:50] <Ch1ppy> dinosaur-rus: my thoughts exactly :)
[08:51] <dinosaur-rus> Ch1ppy: what device is seleted in KDE (Hardware tab in sound settings)?
[08:52] <Ch1ppy> dinosaur-rus: the right one... but grrr, just got it... for some reason, the default mixer settings had one of the options down, and that wasn't letting sound through... :(
[08:52] <dinosaur-rus> Ch1ppy: lol
[08:53] <Ch1ppy> dinosaur-rus: llaaammmeeee
[08:53] <Ch1ppy> dinosaur-rus: thanks for the help though :)
[08:53] <neil> how do i install an rpm file?
[08:53] <ForgeAus> neil you don't
[08:53] <neil> what do i do with it?
[08:54] <dinosaur-rus> neil: why should you use RPMs in Kubuntu?
[08:54] <ForgeAus> !alien
[08:54] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[08:54] <deathnote> how do i find out what version of drivers i'm using for saa7134 ??? what's the command to check
[08:54] <neil> i downloaded a theme which is a rpm file
[08:54] <ForgeAus> perhaps you can open it in an archiver and check whats in it..
[08:55] <ForgeAus> if its binaries you may be able to just copy them and run them but if its source code you'd have to try it manually...
[08:55] <ForgeAus> and I can't promise that it will work at all
[08:55] <deathnote> how do i find out what version of drivers i'm using for saa7134 ??? what's the command to check in console
[08:55] <ForgeAus> also RPM's often have dependancy issues
[08:56] <ForgeAus> if the package is available in a .deb or on the ubuntu repositories your better to get the ubuntu equiavelnts
[08:56] <neil> ok thank you
[09:00] <Mena> jucato, what is the name of sun java plz i alaways i think wuould keep this thngs in a text
[09:00] <Mena> to install it i mean
[09:00] <Jucato> sun-java5-bin or sun-java6-bin
[09:01] <Jucato> (sun-java6-bin is in -backports)
[09:01] <Mena> jucato , is that save if i installed 6
[09:01] <Mena> any conflicts would happened
[09:01] <Jucato> you will be warned if there are conflicts. but it's safe
[09:02] <Mena> jucato , okay thanks
[09:03] <_rawr> HELP PLZ
[09:03] <_rawr> who's up?
[09:03] <_rawr> got a question
[09:04] <_rawr> I have windows on one HDD & kubuntu on the other HDD & both in the same comp, took the kubuntu HDD out, & got a grub boot error, WHY?
[09:05] <_rawr> should it have copied any files to the windows
[09:05] <_rawr> HDD
[09:05] <_rawr> while I was installing kubuntu on the other?
[09:08] <_rawr> yall suck
[09:08] <_rawr> :P
[09:09] <_rawr> #ubuntu pwns yall. k? k
[09:10] <raize> hullo. i'm trying to pick a good gui ftp program for kubuntu, but there are a lot of choices. any recommendations? i liked the layout of smartftp when iw as using windows.
[09:10] <raize> *i was
[09:12] <deathnote> hmm
[09:13] <ernie> riaze - I have the same question - but for now I'm using gFTP
[09:13] <raize> well, i just grabbed kftpgrabber, and it seems to be laid out similarly to what i've used in the past
[09:14] <raize> whether that's a good thing or not, i dunno.
[09:14] <raize> i'd love to make my kubuntu actually look good too :/
[09:15] <ernie> well this is still all pretty new to myself
[09:15] <raize> me too, so far so good though
[09:15] <raize> only thing that's going to be a bit of a pain seems to be my webcam.
[09:15] <ninHer> g'day all
[09:15] <ernie> that I haven't tried yet
[09:16] <Jucato> !ftp
[09:16] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[09:18] <raize> !kasablanca
[09:18] <ubotu> kasablanca: fast and free ftp client for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.0.2-1build1 (edgy), package size 160 kB, installed size 612 kB
[09:19] <raize> !kftpgrabber
[09:19] <ubotu> kftpgrabber: KDE FTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.0beta1-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 989 kB, installed size 2792 kB
[09:19] <raize> nifty
[09:19] <raize> thanks
[09:19] <Jucato> Konqueror can also be easily used as an FTP client
[09:19] <Jucato> Konqueror can do (more than one) split views (horizontal or vertical)
[09:20] <Jucato> Ctrl+Shift+L splits left-right, Ctrl+Shift+T splits top-bottom, Ctrl+Shift+R closes the current view
[09:20] <bele> !kanyremote
[09:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kanyremote - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:20] <raize> i see..
[09:21] <raize> that's pretty cool, thanks for the info
[09:22] <biohazard> ubuntu.pl
[09:22] <Jucato> biohazard: #ubuntu-pl
[09:23] <biohazard> #ubuntu.pl
[09:23] <Jucato> !pl | biohazard
[09:23] <ubotu> biohazard: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:24] <biohazard> nie moge zalapac gdzie to mam wpisac zeby wyskoczlo mi  pl
[09:34] <thill2708> what program should I use to extract img files?
[09:38] <Pupeno> How can I turn a HTML into a spreadsheet?
[09:39] <deathnote> kernel: Pinnacle PCTV: unknown key: key=0x5f raw=0x5f down=0 means what?
[09:42] <seven11> someone know a good audio converter
[09:43] <tanlaan> hello everyone
[09:44] <seven11> flac2mp3 ?
[09:45] <tanlaan> my computer has finally crapped out *the one i share with my brothers and sister*. It had windows xp, and that is all they are used to. Do you think I might be able to switch over to ubuntu/kubuntu without confusing them TOO much, haha. Basically I want to know if anyone else has had a family computer that they switched to ubuntu/kubuntu and how their family reacted
[09:45] <seven11> everything2something_else ?
[09:47] <Lynoure> tanlaan: What did they use WinXP for?
[09:48] <raize> i recently switched
[09:48] <Lynoure> tanlaan: If for office things, email and web, they'll prolly be fine with ubuntu.
[09:48] <raize> my xp crapped out, and i decided to give kubuntu a shot because i'm probably going to buy a tablet pc soon anyway
[09:48] <raize> so far, the only difficulty i've had is getting skype working
[09:49] <[StingRay] > tanlaan, prepare for a lot of questions from your family. Maybe you should try a dualboot at first.
[09:49] <raize> but, to be honest i don7t use my pc for much outside of irc and internet options, and media (movies/music). but for thers, you'll probably end up being tech support for them
[09:50] <raize> if it's dualboot though, they'd probably not use kubuntu :)
[09:50] <ernie> install VMserver on it and install XP as a virtual machine :)
[09:50] <raize> well, off to study.
[09:50] <notech> heh, all the questions and advice and he's not responded to any yet
[09:53] <SovietKid> how do i make konquer open irc links with konversation, at the moment it opens with kopete
[09:53] <SovietKid> konqueror*
[09:55] <lotek> Hey everyone.
[09:55] <lotek> Does anyone else notice.. when I try to open adept, or kaffeine and a few other applicaionts, from the launch menu (aka start menu) the apps act like they are going to open, and I can see the program in the task bar, but they never open.
[09:56] <lotek> Ive been running kubuntu for almost a year.. never had this problem.
[09:56] <lotek> This is a new laptop, new install.
[09:56] <lotek> If I run the same command from the command line, it starts just fine.
[09:56] <lotek> strange problem.
[09:56] <lotek> I cant figure it out.
[09:56] <deathnote> try openning it manually and see the error
[09:57] <deathnote> eg..typing kaffeine in the console
[09:57] <lotek> It opens..
[09:57] <deathnote> no error?
[09:57] <lotek> I get some..
[09:57] <lotek> but it still opens.
[09:58] <deathnote> what is it?
[09:58] <deathnote> what if..u press alt f2 and type kaffeine in?
[09:58] <lotek> f2 does nothing.
[09:58] <underdog5004> hello
[09:59] <deathnote> alt-f2
[09:59] <underdog5004> I meant, lol
[09:59] <underdog5004> it's one o' clock in the morning...I'm tired...
[09:59] <deathnote> i mean alt-f2 not f2
[09:59] <qrtt1> hello
[09:59] <lotek> It just keeps trying to run.
[09:59] <lotek> Little icon keps bouncing.
[09:59] <lotek> then it goes away.
[10:00] <deathnote> u were saying there are errors?
[10:00] <lotek> yeah.
[10:00] <deathnote> check ur /var/log/messages (bottom most) to see any unusual problem?
[10:01] <deathnote> syslog too
[10:01] <stamen> hi
[10:02] <lotek-> deathnote: I msged you the errors.
[10:02] <stamen> my problem is with usb data crash transfer
[10:02] <lotek-> Minf taking a look, see if they look familair
[10:02] <stamen> when I connect a USB stick the transfer is stalled and then it crashes
[10:02] <stamen> why?
[10:02] <stamen> what to do
[10:03] <qrtt1> Anyone can help me, my system has no /dev/sda but lspci can find usb device
[10:03] <stamen> and after remove that device the KB and mouse and whole system stills and is blocked, then I have to reset my box
[10:03] <underdog5004> I prefer lsusb to find usb devices
[10:04] <qrtt1> i try it now :P
[10:04] <deathnote> !i810
[10:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i810 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:06] <qrtt1> i try lsusb but terminal is blocked
[10:07] <stamen> underdog5004: and than what
[10:07] <stamen> underdog5004: it find the device
[10:08] <[StingRay] > stamen, do you use usb kbd or mouse?
[10:08] <underdog5004> stamen, uh...I wasn't trying to help you w/ your problem, just telling you that lsusb is faster for detecting attached devices, and more informative...
[10:08] <stamen> [StingRay] : yes, I have usb mouse
[10:09] <stamen> underdog5004: ok
[10:09] <underdog5004> sorry
[10:09] <qrtt1> hmmm.. but lsusb jsut blocked the terminal :(
[10:09] <stamen> [StingRay] : and
[10:10] <[StingRay] > stamen, I am far from expert, but if I were you I would try only the usbstick w/o mouse just in case. After this I would try to mount the stick with different options than the standard
[10:10] <qrtt1> if i have the /dev/sda file, how can i mout a usb hard disk?
[10:10] <[StingRay] > stamen, try different usb ports too
[10:10] <underdog5004> you may have borked your install somehow...did you compile your own kernel?
[10:10] <qrtt1> i dont have
[10:11] <stamen> [StingRay] : I have tried different slots but all is the same, and before upgrading to edgy all was ok, but now with edgy it crashes
[10:11] <underdog5004> qrtt1, sudo mount /dev/sda1
[10:11] <qrtt1> undergog5004, i have no custom kernel the system is installed yesterday using the ubuntu cdrom
[10:11] <[StingRay] > stamen, try to mount manually the flash
[10:12] <stamen> ok
[10:12] <underdog5004> qrtt1, are you sure the cd image is good?
[10:12] <qrtt1> yeah, i have use it sereval times
[10:12] <qrtt1> underdog5004, i have use it many times
[10:13] <underdog5004> qrtt1, yeah, but did you ever do a "Check this disk for errors" ?
[10:13] <qrtt1> hmmm..
[10:14] <underdog5004> qrtt1, just something you may want to think about
[10:16] <[StingRay] > stamen, am not sure if this might be of help but I was having transfer problems due to wrong irq mappings. Don't really know if this might be of help but give it a try (irqpoll): http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=274764&highlight=8139+realtek
[10:17] <stamen> [StingRay] : ok, I will see
[10:18] <qrtt1> underdog5004, thanks for your suggestion :)
[10:18] <underdog5004> qrtt1, lol, np
[10:22] <berkes> does anyone know of there is a setting / thingy that allows me to widen the area in wich the window-resize-pointer is active?
[10:23] <berkes> I very often 'grab' a border but just miss the area, the window behind it then gets activated.
[10:23] <berkes> IMO they are a little too narrow, especially on a large screen. I really need to concentrate on the pointer when resizing. I prefer to grab it in a wider area.
[10:24] <chavo> berkes, no but you can also resize windows with alt-button3
[10:24] <chavo> very handy
[10:27] <underdog5004> I believe that there is a way to make borders around windows so that they aren't too narrow
[10:27] <underdog5004> lemme google around...h/o
[10:30] <deathnote> hi how do i see what is my video from console?
[10:30] <deathnote> i know its an ati but how i know which one in /dev ?
[10:30] <underdog5004> berkes, Sorry, man, can't help you
[10:30] <underdog5004> deathnote, use lspci
[10:31] <underdog5004> in a konsole
[10:31] <deathnote> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M9+ 5C61 [Radeon Mobility 9200 (AGP)]  (rev 01)
[10:31] <deathnote> so..which one in /dev ?
[10:31] <underdog5004> deathnote, I have no idea...what are you trying to do?
[10:31] <deathnote> create a link /dev/video to my graphics..
[10:32] <underdog5004> hmmm, sorry, I'm no help there...
[10:32] <berkes> chavo: underdog5004: I found a setting in the window-style dialogs, its Crystal specific though.
[10:32] <underdog5004> berkes, cool
[10:32] <berkes> it looks horrific, but it serves what I need :)
[10:33] <underdog5004> berkes, nice
[10:33] <berkes> the border in Crystal is only 3px wide. On a >1800xXX that is really bad IMO.
[10:33] <underdog5004> X_x
[10:34] <chavo> did you try alt-button3 I prefer that method anyway
[10:34] <chavo> you can do it from anywhere in the window
[10:35] <berkes> chavo: yea. I did,
[10:35] <berkes> but somehow rightbutton (3) icw keys does not work in my brain yet
[10:36] <Pupeno> Any other recomended cheap DIY AVR programmer?
[10:36] <Pupeno> wrong channel.
[10:36] <underdog5004> AVR?
[10:36] <underdog5004> !AVR
[10:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:36] <underdog5004> hmmm
[10:39] <ady33> Hi can anyone help. Whenever I try to intsall software and get talked through it I always get "E: Couldn't find package". This seems to be confusing everyone I know who uses kubuntu. I am trying from route...
[10:39] <underdog5004> !repos | ady33
[10:39] <ubotu> ady33: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:40] <underdog5004> ady33, you need to enable certain repositories
[10:40] <underdog5004> repositories are like shelving units for software. Different types (free, nonfree) go on different shelves.
[10:41] <ady33> tnx just taking a look now
[10:42] <underdog5004> np
[10:48] <deathnote> my mplayer is having vo: couldn't open the X11 display ()!
[10:48] <deathnote> what packages shd i install ?
[10:48] <deathnote> !x11
[10:48] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:49] <underdog5004> deathnote, X is automatically installed w/ kubuntu...
[10:49] <underdog5004> you're having a problem w/ your video card driver
[10:50] <underdog5004> which card do you have?
[10:50] <deathnote> i'm trying to ssh into a server to stream from its tv card in lan
[10:51] <deathnote> so there's a script which have this line..
[10:51] <underdog5004> deathnote, not sure that you'll be able to do that
[10:51] <deathnote> mplayer-0.90 -quiet -vo xv -nosound -aspect 4:3 -tv on:driver=v4l:width=352:height=288:input=$INPUT:norm=$NORM:device=/dev/video 0 123 2>&1 >/dev/null
[10:51] <Hektik_Ninja> ubuntu are fags, can someone help me with bootsplashes
[10:52] <underdog5004> !language | Hektik_Ninja
[10:52] <ubotu> Hektik_Ninja: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:52] <Hektik_Ninja> Sorry
[10:52] <Hektik_Ninja> Its just that they never answre me
[10:52] <Hektik_Ninja> answer*
[10:52] <Hektik_Ninja> and I would like to know this
[10:52] <underdog5004> !splash
[10:52] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[10:53] <underdog5004> there you go
[10:53] <ady33> Hi I have managed to change my repositories and listed all software packages. I have downloaded brutalchess ok but can not see it in my start menue under games or anywhere else??
[10:53] <underdog5004> ady33, my advice? look again. If it really isn't there, run the command for it from the konsole
[10:54] <ady33> tnx any idea how I find the command to type?
[10:54] <underdog5004> if you don't want to do that everytime you play, then you can make a desktop icon to click
[10:54] <Hektik_Ninja> underdog5004, where would that splash manager be, sorry I'm kinda a noob to all of this
[10:55] <underdog5004> I would try brutalchess or bchess
[10:55] <underdog5004> Hektik_Ninja, np, just do this
[10:55] <underdog5004> h/o
[10:55] <underdog5004> sudo apt-get install !gnome-splashscreen-manager
[10:55] <ady33> tnx will try now
[10:55] <Alarm> goodmorning. while using an other OS , i could simply have the os on a small disk sized disk, and all the applications installed on another disk , that was speeding up things a lot. as each disk had to do different job and not one disk both OS+software. what would be the best way to do that with kubuntu . i mean which folder should i mount/create on another disk so that i will just run the os from the disk , and all the files that are needed for
[10:55] <Alarm> application from another
[10:55] <Hektik_Ninja> Okay Thank you underdog5004
[10:57] <underdog5004> Alarm, I would make two different partitions, on for / and one for /home
[10:57] <Alarm> underdog5004,  home is not the directory where the applications run from
[10:57] <underdog5004> ummm, ok
[10:57] <underdog5004> maybe /usr or /bin
[10:57] <Alarm> local data , like settings are saved there
[10:58] <Hawai`i> someone can help?
[10:58] <Hawai`i> my system froze up.. and I am on boot disk..
[10:58] <Hektik_Ninja> umm install again?
[10:58] <Hawai`i> wondering how I can check to see what made system freeze in first place..
[10:58] <Hawai`i> and also.. how to restor
[10:59] <underdog5004> Alarm, yeah, but if you have / on a seperate partition, that encompasses everything _but_ /home
[10:59] <Hawai`i> restoree
[10:59] <Hawai`i> install again??
[10:59] <Hawai`i> lol
[10:59] <Hawai`i> that's a good one
[10:59] <Hektik_Ninja> use the recovery in the grub screen?
[10:59] <Hektik_Ninja> I'm a noob I don't know much
[10:59] <underdog5004> Hawai`i, I would use the recovery console
[10:59] <Hawai`i> yes.. where is recovery console.. I am newb also
[10:59] <underdog5004> Hawai`i, how good are you in command line?
[11:00] <Hawai`i> I can handle myself in the Terminal
[11:00] <underdog5004> Hawai`i, are you getting some kind of error when you boot?
[11:00] <Hawai`i> nope.. no errors..
[11:00] <underdog5004> Hawai`i, so...what's the problem?
[11:00] <Hawai`i> it goes through sys checks.. passes all... then freezes right before going to login screen
[11:00] <Hawai`i> I've had it running now for almost a month with no problems
[11:01] <underdog5004> hmmm, boot into the recovery console and take a look at the syslog...
[11:01] <Hawai`i> how do you boot into recovery console please
[11:01] <Hawai`i> I haven't had to do yet
[11:01] <Hawai`i> <-- very new
[11:01] <underdog5004> hit ESC when booting
[11:02] <underdog5004> before grub loads
[11:02] <Hektik_Ninja> grub screen should have something on it
[11:02] <Hektik_Ninja> ahhh
[11:02] <Hawai`i> okies..
[11:02] <Hawai`i> I'll try that.. thanx
[11:02] <Hawai`i> bbiab
[11:02] <underdog5004> np, you know where the syslog is?
[11:02] <Hawai`i> yeppers
[11:02] <Hawai`i> :))
[11:02] <underdog5004> where is it? I can't find it, lol
[11:02] <Hawai`i> bbiab if I can't figure it out
[11:03] <underdog5004> !syslog
[11:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about syslog - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:04] <underdog5004> lol, anyone know where the syslog is?
[11:12] <Pooh22> underdog5004: try /var/log/syslog
[11:12] <underdog5004> thanks so much, pooh
[11:19] <mem_> Hey.. everyone
[11:20] <mem_> I'm about 2 days new to linux.. downloaded & ran the Live CD for Kubuntu on my laptop.. but I can't figure out how to get sound working
[11:21] <Jucato> !sound
[11:21] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:22] <mem_> Thanks, will check it out but these pages seem familiar :)
[11:25] <Hawai`i> hmm
[11:27] <underdog5004> Hawai`i, what's up?
[11:27] <Hawai`i> yeah.. I found the syslog
[11:27] <Hawai`i> but I have no idea how to read it
[11:27] <Hawai`i> *grin*
[11:27] <underdog5004> lol
[11:27] <underdog5004> can you pastebin it?
[11:27] <Hawai`i> it's awfully big.. sure you want me to do that?
[11:28] <underdog5004> do you have a usb stick? if so, sudo cat /var/log/syslog > /mnt/sda1/file.txt
[11:28] <underdog5004> Hawai`i, sure
[11:28] <underdog5004> I think that'll work....
[11:28] <Hawai`i> just a moment
[11:30] <mem_> I don't know if the guy who gave me the link was a bot or not, but thanks. I found that I wasn't part of the group allowed to access the sound device :-D Working, thanks.. even if you are a bot
[11:30] <Jucato> !botsnack
[11:30] <ubotu> Yum!
[11:31] <Jucato> good job :)
[11:31] <mem_> hehe OK, so you're alive :) Thank you.. this has had me for 2 days
[11:31] <mem_> Well not 2 solid days, but 2 evenings
[11:31] <Jucato> yep. I'm alive. whether I'm a bot or not... that still needs to be seen :)
[11:32] <cobra_> someone here?
[11:32] <underdog5004> I am
[11:32] <cobra_> somebody knows how i acces the build in ftp programm?
[11:33] <cobra_> kftp i believe
[11:33] <Jucato> ftp:/ in Konqueror
[11:33] <underdog5004> ftp://
[11:33] <Jucato> or sftp:/ for SSH
[11:33] <underdog5004> I love ssh
[11:33] <underdog5004> I ssh every day
[11:34] <Hawai`i> :)
[11:35] <underdog5004> So, I was reading this article on DIGG about how ubuntu is better than windows at wireless, and they were talking about !knetwork manager. So I figgered, hey, why not give it a shot, right? Well, I installed it, and it didn't even _detect_ my wireless card...
[11:35] <Hawai`i> why isn't there a way to get to a recover in a GUI........ :PP
[11:35] <cobra__> same here underdog :)
[11:35] <mem_> I'm a little confused by the kubuntu live cd .. operation...
[11:35] <underdog5004> Hawai`i, if you know what you're doing, you can boot from the ubuntu liveCD or from another version of linux, like DSL
[11:35] <underdog5004> mem_, in what way?
[11:35] <mem_> My boyfriend plays around in a text... based ... thing
[11:35] <Hawai`i> I am booted from liveCD
[11:35] <mem_> looks like the konsole
[11:36] <underdog5004> mem_, lol, the konsole?
[11:36] <mem_> where he installs things... has various umm.. windows
[11:36] <mem_> nono, I'm just comparing it to the konsole
[11:36] <underdog5004> mem_, ah, ok, keep going
[11:36] <mem_> He types in commands there, and can log in and out through a text area..
[11:36] <underdog5004> ok
[11:36] <mem_> and he starts up KDE by
[11:36] <mem_> start x?
[11:36] <Jucato> Konsole is a program. Konsole is a terminal (console) emulator :)
[11:36] <mem_> Where is this? lol
[11:36] <underdog5004> sounds like he's booting into the CLI and starting X
[11:36] <underdog5004> startx
[11:37] <Jucato> Command line
[11:37] <underdog5004> mem_, it's just a recovery console, or basically, it's just a Command line
[11:37] <underdog5004> startx to get a gui
[11:37] <mem_> its just a little confusing to me.. because it was too easy to get in
[11:37] <mem_> if you get what I mean? lol
[11:37] <underdog5004> mem_, I don't, please explain
[11:38] <mem_> He had to set up his linux machine through .. whatever area you just called that. At first it didn't even have a gui, he had to install things through.. a blue & red kernel configurator?
[11:38] <mem_> Me.. I just put in the disc and everything worked
[11:39] <underdog5004> mem, he used the alternate install disk
[11:39] <underdog5004> you used the liveCD
[11:39] <eeos> amarok 1.4.5 is out! no pacages for kubuntu yet, what a shame. :P
[11:39] <eeos> hi everybody, by the way
[11:40] <Jucato> eeos: patience is a virtue
[11:40] <underdog5004> eeos, you could just compile
[11:40] <mem_> Thanks underdog :)
[11:40] <underdog5004> mem_, lol, np
[11:40] <mem_> I kind of wish I'd found the alternate one.. I wanted this to be harder
[11:40] <subzerounderdawg> does anyone know any cyber managerment cum cyber billing soft for linux just like CafeSuite for Win
[11:40] <mem_> Can you tell me where it is?
[11:40] <underdog5004> not often I meet a girl in the #kubuntu channel...
[11:40] <mem_> Yea but I'm all geeky and stuff
[11:40] <eeos> underdog5004 co - mp -i -l, I think I heard this word before :P
[11:40] <underdog5004> rofl @ eeos
[11:41] <cobra__> ok another question i have ati-driver-installer-8.28.8.run how do i execute it? sudo exec ati-driver-installer-8.28.8.run won't work
[11:41] <cobra__> sh
[11:41] <cobra__> sudo sh
[11:41] <cobra__> stupid me
[11:41] <underdog5004> ./
[11:41] <underdog5004> lol
[11:41] <underdog5004> eeos, not so fast...kaffeine is pretty good
[11:42] <eeos> underdog5004 yes, I use for watching dvd'S
[11:42] <mem_> so many programs for the same kind of thing
[11:42] <mem_> its sooooo bloated! >.<
[11:42] <underdog5004> yeah...my kaffeine is killin' me right now
[11:42] <eeos> underdog5004 would be nice to do everything with the sam player
[11:42] <underdog5004> Kaffeine does everything for me
[11:43] <underdog5004> mp3, avi, mpeg, dvd, even access remote files on my server
[11:43] <cobra__> yeah me to especially staying awake:d
[11:43] <cobra__> -e [11:43] <cobra__> -e  ATI Technologies Linux Driver Installer/Packager
[11:43] <cobra__> -e [11:43] <cobra__> ./ati-installer.sh: 165: Syntax error: Bad substitution
[11:43] <cobra__> Removing temporary directory: fglrx-install
[11:43] <cobra__> cobra@linux:~/tmp/firefox/downloads$
[11:43] <cobra__> sux
[11:43] <Jucato> !pastebin | cobra__
[11:43] <ubotu> cobra__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:43] <underdog5004> It's not bloated, it's big boned
[11:43] <underdog5004> lol
[11:44] <Hektik_Ninja> underdog I found out the splash btw
[11:44] <underdog5004> Hektik_Ninja, very cool
[11:44] <underdog5004> got it all figured out?
[11:45] <cobra__> no:D
[11:45] <Hektik_Ninja> yeah
[11:45] <mem_> Well I'm super happy to have sound now.  Do you guys have Beryl?
[11:45] <underdog5004> mem_, I will in a week or so, getting a new computer
[11:46] <mem_> I'm putting on this, a crappy little laptop
[11:46] <mem_> just because I can
[11:46] <underdog5004> well, new to me, anyway
[11:46] <mem_> haha!
[11:46] <mem_> Preloved :P
[11:46] <underdog5004> mem_, if it's old, you may be interested in Xubuntu...less eyecandy, but also less overhead
[11:46] <Jucato> (also a bit less features)
[11:47] <mem_> Its about 2 years old.. not too shabby really.
[11:47] <mem_> It was old enough to say.. I have another computer.. time to do whatever I want with the laptop
[11:47] <mem_> Then someone showed me a Beryl video on YouTube.
[11:47] <mem_> I knew what I had to do...
[11:48] <underdog5004> mem_, oh, not at all...didn't realise it was so recent....I run kubuntu edgy pretty well on my 933Mhz box w/ 512Mb RAM
[11:48] <underdog5004> just can't do pretty things yet
[11:48] <mem_> Laptop = Skype, Beryl & Portabl music device. So it won't die
[11:48] <underdog5004> mem_, lol, odds are it won't work for you, the beryl
[11:48] <mem_> I can try though :D
[11:48] <zorglu_> installed beryl this weekend on my alternate laptop, and loving it :)
[11:49] <mem_> If it doesn't there are 2 other computers I can mess with to try it
[11:49] <mem_> :D lucky sucker
[11:49] <underdog5004> lol
[11:49] <mem_> heh
[11:49] <zorglu_> Jucato: you got no window border when you launch beryl ?
[11:50] <mem_> Oh yeah, I think I chose Kubuntu because KDE was supposedly prettier, and easier to install Beryl with or something? Anyway thats how I got here :S
[11:50] <underdog5004> I'm so ready for a _really_ pretty desktop...I was satisfied for a while with KDE...now I want more
[11:50] <Jucato> zorglu_: uhuh.. and no wavey splash screen either
[11:50] <zorglu_> Jucato: i got this bug during the weekend, first it worked, then no window decoration, and now it works ok :) i havent done anything in between
[11:50] <Jucato> which is a bit puzzling.. since when I installed beryl last january, I had both, until an X restart...
[11:50] <cobra__> i saw a 3d way in the faqs of kubuntu
[11:51] <mem_> The Beryl-gicians vixed it - zorglu
[11:51] <mem_> fixed, even
[11:51] <zorglu_> Jucato: what is weird is that the window decoration part is the same for all (only the 3d backend change with the various cards) so the bug you got should be experienced by a lot of people, no ?
[11:51] <Jucato> zorglu_: it's an intermittent bug experienced by a lot of people
[11:52] <zorglu_> mem_: i guess :)
[11:52] <Jucato> :)
[11:52] <zorglu_> Jucato: ah ok, so it is the one i got too :)
[11:52] <Jucato> yep. and there are fixes for it or ways to go around it... but I just reinstall beryl this morning (it's evening now) and haven't had the time to play around
[11:52] <zorglu_> which is good because it mean they will work on fixing it :)
[11:53] <mem_> Anyway, thanks guys. I'll probably be back in a couple of days with another problem :( :)
[11:53] <zorglu_> Jucato: yep my spirit too, i force myself to use it to find out how it can be usefull
[11:54] <Jucato> zorglu_: I know how it can be useful for me. mostly the transparencies, the improved performance in terms of redrawing windows, etc. and entertainment to keep me from snoozing
[11:54] <Jucato> only 2 things I don't find remotely useful would be wobbly windows and the cube...
[11:54] <JohnFlux> I tried beryl, liked what I saw, but had to disable it pretty quickly because I missed kwin :/
[11:55] <Jucato> JohnFlux: I share your sentiments... which is why I can't wait for *you know what*
[11:55] <JohnFlux> indeed
[11:55] <JohnFlux> actually the cube is really useful
[11:55] <Jucato> I mean, the stability and features of kwin plus the eye-candy of beryl... where can you go wrong?
[11:55] <JohnFlux> I don't tend to use multiple desktops because for some reason I just can't deal with it spacially
[11:55] <Jucato> JohnFlux: not as useful as the "grid" (pager), although more beautiful
[11:56] <JohnFlux> but the cube makes all the desktops fit together in my mind
[11:56] <Jucato> if you've seen Metisse, you'd know what I mean
[11:56] <JohnFlux> dunno what metisse is
[11:56] <underdog5004> a beautiful thing...I'm u/l the torrent right now
[11:56] <Jucato> another compositing window manager. Mandriva's the proponent thiss time
[11:57] <Jucato> it implements thing differently though... and imho has more useful applications (except 1)
[11:57] <underdog5004> I gotta say, it looks pretty cool _and_ functional
[11:57] <zorglu_> Jucato: a fork or written from scratch ?
[11:57] <Jucato> Mandriva One 2007 CD has it.. except it's GNOME!!!
[11:57] <Jucato> zorglu_: from scratch, but seems to have been in development earlier and longer than Compize
[11:57] <Adross> is just install kubuntu-desktop from my ubuntu system. For some reason whenever i try to boot into kde, it freezes after a few seconds. I'm guessing this isn't design behaviour, so how do i fix it?
[11:57] <Jucato> Compiz**
[11:58] <zorglu_> ok
[11:58] <Jucato> but nothing beats Enlightenment when it comes to "been in development longer"
[11:58] <underdog5004> lol @ Jucato
[11:58] <Jucato> JohnFlux, zorglu_: http://www.mandriva.com/projects/metisse
[11:58] <Jucato> driva's behind it now, but it was an independent project before, afaik
[11:59] <zorglu_> http://honeybrown.ca/Pubs/BumpTop.html <- jucato, have you seen the bump3d stuff ? another use of 3d to make it more then pure eyes candy
[11:59] <zorglu_> definitly worth to watch the video :)
[12:00] <Adross> anyone?
[12:00] <Jucato> I've seen that months ago :)
[12:00] <userbn> hai...kenalan donk
[12:00] <zorglu_> Jucato: damn im late :) what do you think about it ?
[12:00] <underdog5004> zorglu_, yeah, that's pretty old...
[12:00] <underdog5004> looks cool
[12:00] <Jucato> Adross: are you sure you have completelyu downloaded all files needed kubuntu-desktop? can you try installing kubuntu-desktop again to be sure nothing is left behind?
[12:01] <Jucato> zorglu_: the technology used to implement it is useful, but the concept is a bit.. um... well...
[12:01] <Adross> Jucato: all in
[12:01] <Jucato> Let's just say that I'm not a fan of the whole desktop metaphor
[12:01] <zorglu_> underdog5004: it try to promote this video to get it known. but almost all people say 'just eyes candy' :)
[12:01] <Jucato> ugh! why do I get drawn into these offtopic things :P
[12:01] <Jucato> Adross: hm..
[12:02] <Adross> i've deleted ~/.kde
[12:02] <zorglu_> Jucato: hehe ok :)
[12:02] <Adross> no effect
[12:02] <zorglu_> gcc  -g -O2 -Wall  -o ez-ipupdate  ez-ipupdate.o conf_file.o md5.o cache_file.o pid_file.o
[12:02] <zorglu_> /usr/bin/ld: errno: TLS definition in /lib/libc.so.6 section .tbss mismatches non-TLS reference in conf_file.o
[12:02] <Jucato> Adross: er... don't do that again, btw. deleting ~/.kde
[12:02] <Jucato> unless you have a backup
[12:02] <zorglu_> ok on topic, trying to config a dnydns i got this weird gcc error, any suggestion ?
[12:03] <Adross> Jucato: kk
[12:03] <Jucato> Adross: at what point does KDE freeze?
[12:04] <Alarm> is there a way to clean up a bit my memory/swap from the unused data ?
[12:04] <Jucato> Alarm: huh?
[12:04] <Adross> the dialogue of starting services disappears, gives me the desktop for 0.5 seconds, then freezes
[12:04] <MidMark> what is the command to view all groups like apache group?
[12:05] <Alarm> Jucato,  under windows for example that do make a memory clean up and free some memory, if there is something that i could use in linux as well
[12:05] <Jucato> Alarm: Linux handles memory differently and better than windows. there's no need for freeing memory
[12:05] <Jucato> !ram
[12:05] <ubotu> A quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html
[12:05] <Jucato> a bit of reading you might want to look into ^^^
[12:05] <Jucato> not for the faint of heart though :P
[12:06] <underdog5004> Alarm, that was probably a scam piece of software that did nothing but move stuff from RAM to the page file...lol
[12:06] <Alarm> Jucato,  why do i see then 300mb of RAm memory free, and the system is using 200mb from my swap ?
[12:06] <underdog5004> basically, you WANT your RAM to be maxxed out
[12:06] <Jucato> Alarm: how much RAM do you have?
[12:06] <Alarm> 512 .
[12:06] <Jucato> and where are you seeing this?
[12:06] <underdog5004> Alarm, I generally only have about 50 Mb free at any given idle time
[12:06] <Alarm> the system is using 150mb from my ram, and the rest 300 is being stored in the swap although there are like 350mb available in the ram
[12:07] <Jucato> Alarm: where are you seeing that the system is only using 150MB of RAM?
[12:07] <cobra__> yea me is wondering that also :)
[12:07] <Jucato> Alarm: launch KInfoCenter (from K Menu -> System) and go to the Memory Section. to see a sort of visual representation of memory usage
[12:08] <Alarm> Jucato,  ksysguard
[12:08] <underdog5004> or top
[12:08] <MidMark> how can I show system groups in console?
[12:08] <Jucato> ksysguard...
[12:08] <Alarm> Jucato,  thats what i did :)
[12:08] <Jucato> Alarm: kinfocenter, not ksysguard...
[12:08] <Alarm> application takes 150-200mb , and the rest is cachable
[12:08] <Jucato> Alarm: and?
[12:08] <Jucato> in the Swap portion?
[12:08] <Alarm> and although there is plenty of free space in the ram, i see 300mb more used in the swap
[12:09] <Alarm> 300mb in the swap for applciation
[12:09] <Jucato> by applications?
[12:09] <Alarm> yes
[12:09] <Alarm> want a snaphost ?
[12:09] <Jucato> hm.. ok.. that is definitely not normal, if I'm understanding you correctly
[12:09] <cobra__> i only have 3mb available :)
[12:09] <Jucato> yes please
[12:09] <Alarm> hold on
[12:10] <underdog5004> I've got 57 Mb RAM free...and 167Mb Swap used...
[12:11] <Skrot-> <- 331MB used, 1.74GB free =)
[12:11] <Alarm> underdog5004,  thats exactly what i mean. why is the swap being used when there is free memory . an hd is always slowler than physical memory
[12:11] <Jucato> Alarm: I don't have DCC (port 8001)
[12:11] <Alarm> Jucato,  dcc not working ?
[12:11] <Alarm> ok hold on
[12:12] <underdog5004> Alarm, whoops...just did a sudo apt-get autoremove, and my RAM went down to 6Mb free
[12:12] <Alarm> http://alarm.kicks-ass.net:443/mem4.jpg
[12:12] <Jucato> that ain't kinfocenter
[12:12] <JohnFlux> Alarm: the theoritical reason is because imagine you have an app that's allocated memory, but you're not using
[12:12] <Jucato> I said KInfoCenter
[12:12] <Alarm> underdog5004,  autoremove just removes unneeded packages
[12:12] <JohnFlux> Alarm: so the best thing for the OS to do is to swap out that app
[12:12] <Alarm> Jucato,  ok wait to check in the kinfo center
[12:12] <Jucato> Alarm: kinfocenter please
[12:12] <underdog5004> Alarm, I know
[12:12] <JohnFlux> Alarm: then use the memory as cache/buffers for your running apps
[12:13] <JohnFlux> Alarm: theoritically, it is possible for it to be faster for it to use swap then to not
[12:13] <Alarm> Jucato,  http://alarm.kicks-ass.net:443/mem5.jpg
[12:13] <Jucato> Basic Linux Memory Fact: Linux uses up all physical RAM first before using swap. If application Data doesn't consume all RAM, Linux uses the remaining memory for Disk Cache. when applications need more RAM, it frees up some amount from Disk Cache to give to applications. if even that runs out (it keeps a certain amount of RAM for DiskCache always), then it uses swap
[12:14] <aldelv> I want to have a 'window resize' sash in the lower right corner of the window.  How can I get this ?
[12:14] <Jucato> looks perfectly normal Alarm
[12:14] <JohnFlux> Jucato: not 100% right - read what I wrote :-)
[12:14] <Jucato> JohnFlux: any comment on the KInfoCenter screen?
[12:14] <Jucato> JohnFlux: heheh
[12:15] <Alarm> Jucato,  if its right, when i got more than 200mb free ram, (even cached) , why doesnt my system handle that ram , instead of writing to the swap . thats my question
[12:15] <JohnFlux> Jucato: the kernel tries to be clever about prematurely swapping out apps
[12:15] <JohnFlux> i.e. before they are needed
[12:15] <JohnFlux> Jucato: it it swaps out too late, then the computer can suddenly freeze
[12:15] <JohnFlux> if it swaps out too early, it's annoying
[12:15] <Jucato> Alarm: 178.61MB is being used for Disk Cache
[12:15] <JohnFlux> Jucato: to fine tune this, there's a kernel parameter called "swapiness"
[12:16] <Jucato> afaik, it absolutely has to leave some data in RAM as Disck Cache
[12:16] <Jucato> JohnFlux: oh I've heard of that swapiness :)
[12:16] <underdog5004> I love linux, what other OS has a variable entitled "swapiness"?
[12:16] <Alarm> Jucato,  i can see that. the point is that even if i would have 2gb of ram, it system would cache the memory , and would write on the swap. whats the sense in that ?
[12:16] <Jucato> JohnFlux: can you comment if Alarm's KInfoCenter screenshot is reporting a normal situation?
[12:17] <JohnFlux> Alarm: echo 0 >  /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
[12:17] <Jucato> Alarm: with 2GB of RAM, your swap will never be used
[12:17] <JohnFlux> Jucato: I don't know
[12:17] <Jucato> almost
[12:17] <JohnFlux> Alarm: if it's annoying you, try decreasing your swappiness
[12:17] <JohnFlux> the "0" is from 0 to 100
[12:17] <Alarm> i will check that.
[12:17] <Jucato> Alarm: Linux adjusts the amount of Disk Cache it uses, but it still has to keep a certain amount in Disk Cache
[12:17] <JohnFlux> cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness  to see what it is currently
[12:18] <JohnFlux> mine is 60
[12:18] <Alarm> got it .
[12:18] <Jucato> lol
[12:18] <JohnFlux> try making it 30 or something first
[12:18] <JohnFlux> "If swappiness was set to zero (echo 0 >/proc/sys/vm/swappiness), the kernel would give up cache to anything that wanted ram"
[12:18] <Alarm> a last question, i did run vmware before, and as it seems the memory it used didnt was never unallocated again (thats why the high swap usage) . can that be freed manualy ?
[12:19] <Alarm> JohnFlux,  got it. i will read also the manual for more detailed info about that. just didnt know that i could do something like that
[12:19] <JohnFlux> there's a manual for that?
[12:20] <Alarm> i want to hope so...
[12:20] <Alarm> :)
[12:20] <Jucato> if you do find one, please give a link to JohnFlux :)
[12:20] <Jucato> I bet he'll want it
[12:20] <Alarm> hehe , ok. i will find then on the net something :) anyway , thanks a lot for ur answers
[12:21] <Alarm> helped somehow figuring out
[12:21] <demon_> hi)
[12:21] <JohnFlux> Alarm: http://kerneltrap.org/node/3000
[12:21] <JohnFlux> that explains both sides
[12:22] <JohnFlux> btw, I have 1GB of mem, and 256MB of swap is used ;-)
[12:22] <cobra__> i installed wine how can i acces it? <[12:23] <Jucato> cobra__: in the command line. "wine filename.exe"
[12:23] <cobra__> it's for the gnome but i was told that can be used on kde aswell
[12:23] <cobra__> no gui?
[12:23] <Alarm> JohnFlux,  got it
[12:23] <Jucato> none that I know of
[12:23] <cobra__> k let's try it hehe
[12:23] <Jucato> and Wine is for all desktops, not just GNOME
[12:24] <cobra__> going to test msn messenger allthough i know kopete has this too
[12:27] <cobra__> won't work :(
[12:28] <Jucato> cobra__: http://appdb.winehq.org
[12:31] <cobra__> hehe mostly games
[12:32] <Alarm> by default swappines on my system uses 100% ?
[12:34] <Alarm> oh its on 60
[12:37] <cobra__> cobra@linux:~/tmp/cpu-z-138$ wiwineserver: could not save registry branch to /home/cobra/.wine/system.reg : Permission denied
[12:37] <cobra__> how can i make it permission enabled?
[12:38] <underdog5004> cobra__, sudo
[12:38] <cobra__> i did
[12:38] <underdog5004> hm, I don't know
[12:38] <cobra__> i did sudo wine cpuz.exe
[12:39] <Alarm> alarm@rockpc:~/Desktop$ sudo echo 0 > /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
[12:39] <Alarm> bash: /proc/sys/vm/swappiness: Permission denied
[12:39] <Alarm> somehow i dont have access on that... how come
[12:39] <cobra__> maybe same as mine :p
[12:39] <Alarm> cobra__,  u dont need sudo for wine
[12:40] <Alarm> only if you dont have the right permitions on cpuz.exe
[12:40] <Alarm> after all i dont know how well will cpuz run under linux as linux uses lm sensors for the things u want to get informed about ur system
[12:40] <cobra__> but i still get an error on permission denied
[12:41] <Alarm> cobra__,  ls -l to check the permitions u got on that file as simple user
[12:43] <cobra__> wineserver: could not save registry branch to /home/cobra/.wine/user.reg : Permi
[12:43] <cobra__> ssion denied
[12:44] <cobra__> -rw-r--r-- 1 cobra cobra 966873 2006-11-22 20:27 cpuz.exe
[12:44] <cobra__> all files like that
[12:45] <Alarm> cobra__,  i think thats happening because u created for the first time .wine dir as sudo
[12:45] <Alarm> go to ur home directory cd ~/
[12:45] <Alarm> and rm -R .wine
[12:45] <Alarm> and run cpuz again just with "wine cpuz.exe"
[12:45] <Alarm> it will created the .wine directory for the specific user u are running right now
[12:46] <cobra__> rm: afdalen in voor schrijven beschermde map `.wine'?
[12:46] <cobra__> sorry dutch
[12:46] <Alarm> cobra__,  also ur cpuz file is just 'read' for user, not write not executable
[12:46] <Alarm> translate please ;)
[12:47] <underdog5004> chmod +x
[12:47] <Alarm> underdog5004,  thats what i adviced also, but what i can also guess is that he created the .wine dir with sudo, thats why he doesnt ahve any access on the reg file
[12:48] <underdog5004> chown username /path/of/wine/dir
[12:48] <cobra__> it's fixed
[12:48] <cobra__> the error is gone :)
[12:49] <underdog5004> yay
[12:49] <Alarm> cobra__,  info about ur cpu (not temp or fan rpm and so on) , you can get with cat /proc/cpuinfo
[12:50] <Alarm> as i told u. cpuz wont work (i think so) under linux
[12:50] <cobra__> well it does
[12:50] <cobra__> :)
[12:50] <cobra__> it works
[12:50] <Alarm> okie then... good
[12:50] <cobra__> not 100% though
[12:50] <cobra__> memory won't show
[12:50] <cobra__> but cpu info does
[12:51] <Alarm> cobra__,  u dont need a whole winapp to see cpu info. u can simply cat /proc/cpuinfo
[12:51] <XVampireX> Does anyone here use the KDE4 packages?
[12:53] <cobra__> nice alarm
[12:53] <cobra__> but i don't know any commands yet hehe
[12:54] <cobra__> ls etc i know
[12:57] <Russel> hiho
[12:57] <Russel> will there be amarok 1.4.5 packages for dapper?#
[12:57] <cobra__> i heard something about u could compile it yourself
[12:58] <cobra__> don't ask me how :)
[12:58] <Russel> don
[12:58] <Russel> t want to
[12:59] <sorush20> hi, how do I play movies from my 3g phone on my kubuntu computer please
[01:07] <kolla> with gdm as login manager, tab 2+ in konsole refuse to be transparent, with kdm as login manager it works fine - what gives?
[01:08] <kolla> happens with both dapper and edgy
[01:09] <delight> Is amarok 145 in the kubuntu edgy oven ? when is it time for lunch ?
[01:09] <underdog5004> delight, not yet
[01:09] <delight> underdog5004: ;) well, hope soon ... longing to take a bite ;-)
[01:10] <underdog5004> lol, I dont see why everyone like amarok so much...xmms for quick and dirty audio, kaffeine for everything else
[01:11] <delight> well i even use kaffeine for audio quick and dirty ... its more stable then kaffeine
[01:11] <delight> but ... u'll know when u get more then a playlist of songs ;)
[01:11] <kolla> kaffeine is more stable than kaffeine?
[01:11] <delight> slept 2 hours ... lol ... kaffeine more stable then xmms
[01:12] <Skrot-> So is amaroK :>
[01:12] <kolla> does xmms even exist? didnt it change name?
[01:12] <Skrot-> !xmms
[01:12] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[01:12] <kolla> or maybe I think of zinf
[01:13] <kolla> anyways.. anyone want to give gdm login and then konsole a go?
[01:13] <kolla> gdm as login manager, select KDE as session, log in.. fire up konsole and try to configure it to use transparent background
[01:14] <kolla> would be nice to know that it's not just here it happens
[01:20] <hyper_ch> hiho, what's the name of that other virtualization software (not vmware)?
[01:20] <Jucato> virtualbox? qemu (actually an emulator)? xen?
[01:21] <hyper_ch> I think it's virtualbox
[01:22] <underdog5004> or qemu
[01:22] <underdog5004> !qemu
[01:22] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[01:23] <kolla> noone wants to try it, huh?
[01:23] <kolla> typical :P
[01:28] <karmikaze> hey is there a way to get apt or adept to use a proxy
[01:31] <karmikaze> hrm
[01:35] <karmikaze> hello?
[01:36] <waylandbill> karmikaze: I think it should follow the HTTP_PROXY environment variable
[01:37] <waylandbill> karmikaze: or ftp_proxy if you do it that way
[01:40] <karmikaze> ok thanks waylandbill
[01:40] <karmikaze> that worked :)
[01:40] <hyper_ch> so, I'm testing now virtualbox :)
[01:41] <karmikaze> :)
[01:44] <me> for some days i get always a black screen after boot. but i can start the graphical interface with init 5. maybe ive made some shit with the system services. can anyone help me maybe?
[01:44] <Mena> is there cdoecs i can install to make amrok work for all media types instead of installingany another media player
[01:45] <Jucato> !codecs | Mena
[01:45] <ubotu> Mena: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:45] <karmikaze> what are you trying to play
[01:45] <Jucato> Mena: libxine-extracodecs for most media, w32codecs for Windows Media and Real Media (I think)
[01:45] <Mena> Karmkaze , mp3 rm ram etc..
[01:45] <Mena> jucato , okay
[01:45] <Jucato> libxine-extracodecs: MP3, AAC, AVI, MPEG
[01:47] <Mena> jucato , okay
[01:48] <karmikaze> do you still need libmpeg3 if you get libxine-extracodecs
[01:48] <scribz> anyone know how to change the console keymap ? i tried loadkeys but /usr/share/keymaps is empty, on edgy so install-keymaps don't work
[01:49] <Jucato> karmikaze: no
[01:49] <karmikaze> scribz: theres files you can edit
[01:49] <scribz> i just read to install console-common
[01:49] <me> can anyone say me where i can find the services or processes which will be start at the linux start?
[01:49] <karmikaze> usually in /etc/X11/xkb/ scribz
[01:50] <scribz> karmikaze: aren't those ones just for x though ?
[01:50] <karmikaze> scribz: /etc/X11/xkb/symbols
[01:50] <karmikaze> yeah scribz
[01:50] <Mena> jucato , i must disbale packborts to enable install the libs right becits told mei have but it is avialible for another source
[01:50] <scribz> i'm looking to change the console keymap
[01:50] <karmikaze> oh
[01:51] <Mena> jucato , so i geuus its the reason
[01:51] <karmikaze> i imagine theres a similar type of file somewhere for console
[01:51] <scribz> thing is when i change the keymap under gnome, my up arrow only works 40% of the time
[01:51] <Jucato> Mena: no. you don't need to do disable backports.
[01:51] <scribz> from us to uk
[01:51] <scribz> in us, up arrow works 100% of the time
[01:51] <Mena> jucato, okay
[01:51] <Jucato> Mena: you need to enable the multiverse repository
[01:51] <Jucato> !multiverse | Mena
[01:51] <ubotu> Mena: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:53] <Mena> jucato , i enabled them all befor
[01:53] <Jucato> Mena: can you pastebin your sources.list?
[01:53] <Jucato> !pastebin | Mena
[01:53] <ubotu> Mena: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:54] <scribz> yeah got it working, apt-get install console-common, then install-keymap uk, then loadkeys uk
[01:59] <Mena> jucato , sudo kate /etc/source.list i do this and i got empty source am i miss something
[02:00] <Jucato> Mena: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:00] <Mena> jucato , ok
[02:00] <cobra__> diffrence between sudo and kdesu?
[02:01] <Jucato> !kdesu | cobra__
[02:01] <ubotu> cobra__: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[02:02] <cobra__> thx for the teaching
[02:04] <devilsadvocate> i realize this will be a wierd question, but what is katapult?
[02:04] <scribz> kde app launcher
[02:05] <scribz> hit alt-space and it lets you run commands on the fly
[02:05] <Mena> jucato , i had made some changes i remebered see it and told me http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4406/
[02:05] <Jucato> !katapult | devilsadvocate
[02:05] <ubotu> devilsadvocate: katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[02:05] <scribz> good for opening terminals and browsers etc, has command completion on it, well handy, i use it all the time under gnome
[02:05] <devilsadvocate> how is this different from alt+f2?
[02:05] <Jucato> devilsadvocate: Alt+F2 requires you to know the executable name of the app
[02:06] <devilsadvocate> hmm
[02:06] <devilsadvocate> command completion as in tab completion?
[02:06] <scribz> how come the ubuntu channel is not open ?
[02:06] <Mena> jucato , i took the two lines after or updates from the Ubuntu security team. and put them under ## team.
[02:06] <devilsadvocate> nice
[02:06] <devilsadvocate> scribz, it is
[02:06] <scribz> says i'm banned, although i've never been there
[02:07] <Jucato> scribz: try asking in #ubuntu-ops
[02:07] <scribz> ah cheers
[02:07] <Mena> after 0r "updates from the Ubuntu security team."*
[02:07] <Jucato> Mena: lines 20 and 21, add "multiverse" beside "universe"
[02:08] <Mena> jucato , okay
[02:08] <Jucato> Mena: so that it, for example, line 20 will look like "deb http://eg.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe multiverse"
[02:10] <Mena> jucato , okay done thanks
[02:11] <jeroenvrplaptop> I have a RT2500 Ralink wifi usb stick -- I see in Adept that I can/must build the driver myself; is there also a binary version somewhere?
[02:22] <jeroenvrplaptop> does anyone have a n answer on my question!!!?
[02:23] <jeroenvrplaptop> Is there a binary module for the rt2500 usb wifi
[02:24] <Jucato> zorglu_: well what do you know.. I have window borders *now*
[02:27] <wheatie> jeroenvrplaptop, have you seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/RalinkRT2500Old ?
[02:27] <wheatie> or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT2500
[02:30] <kurtz> ciao a tutti
[02:31] <GalaZ> anyone know how to install libdvdcss2?
[02:31] <caris_mere> could someone help me with a webcam?
[02:32] <Hobbsee> !multimedia
[02:32] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[02:32] <Hobbsee> GalaZ: ^
[02:32] <GalaZ> thxu
[02:34] <caris_mere> any help with the webcam? I've been to the Ubuntu sites
[02:36] <MidMark> amarok 1.4.5 will be packaged for Edgy?
[02:37] <markc> I'm trying out knetworkmanager and not having any success, I can ifup eth1 and get a simple wireless connection but there are no settings or networks seemingly available via knetowrkmanager in the systray... any clues where to look to configure it ?
[02:38] <guglielf> LjL: query
[02:39] <jeroenvrplaptop> wheatie: thanks, I followed the instructions, but in networksettings the rausb0 card is listed, but disabled. If I enable it, it stays enabled for only 1 sec.
[02:41] <markc> no one using knetworkmanager ?
[02:41] <sleepy745> How do I set up Thunderbird to get my Yahoo e-mails?
[02:44] <JohnFlux> sleepy745: you say "Get! Get!"
[02:44] <Jucato> lol
[02:45] <JohnFlux> sleepy745: But just so I'm not a total ass, I'll google it and paste the first link: http://digg.com/software/Check_Hotmail_and_Yahoo_e-mail_in_Thunderbird_
[02:46] <sleepy745> thanks
[02:47] <markc> here's another one ... http://webmail.mozdev.org/
[02:47] <JohnFlux> you just pasted the second link from google
[02:47] <JohnFlux> http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=thunderbird+yahoo&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
[02:48] <markc> is there a kubuntu+ channel for feisty users ?
[02:49] <egeck> hello
[02:49] <Hobbsee> markc: #ubuntu+1
[02:49] <egeck> i need a good soundcard for less than 50 euro
[02:50] <markc> Hobbsee, thanks, probably not kde friendly but I'll try
[02:50] <caris_mere> can anybody help me with a webcam?
[02:50] <egeck> living in germany, got (k)ubuntu 6.10
[02:50] <Hobbsee> markc: not too bad.  any kde specific stuff, ask here, or try there, then here.
[02:50] <markc> well I tried here so I guess I'll try there now
[02:52] <Gretl> egeck - just make sure hardware is no on blacklist
[02:55] <Azzco> I need help editing fstab, I want to add swap at boot.
[02:57] <caris_mere> anybody using a webcam?
[02:57] <HymnToLife> !anyone | caris_mere
[02:57] <ubotu> caris_mere: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:57] <HymnToLife> Azzco, what exactly do you need help with ?
[02:58] <Azzco> HymnToLife: I'm a bit afraid of editing fstab as I don't understand it. but I want to add swap to it
[02:59] <Azzco> I only know the device name
[02:59] <LjL> Azzco: meaning the device name for the partition, hopefully
[02:59] <Azzco> yyes of course
[02:59] <LjL> UUID=4c6af297-e238-45bd-a092-0dd108258070 none            swap    sw              0       0
[02:59] <LjL> this is my swap line
[03:00] <HymnToLife> Azzco, then spot the line for the existing swap and att the same thing
[03:00] <LjL> you can either use the UUID or the partition name
[03:00] <LjL> !blkid
[03:00] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[03:00] <HymnToLife> but with the new device name
[03:00] <caris_mere> I've got a Logitech Webcam Chat, and ubuntu says it is supported, but when I try camorama, it says it's not connected
[03:01] <h3sp4wn>  /dev/disk/by-uuid is also ok
[03:02] <LjL> h3sp4wn: well but then just use the UUID= syntax, no? it boils down to the same thing
[03:02] <Azzco> thx I'll try it
[03:03] <h3sp4wn> LjL: The label syntax is probably better
[03:03] <h3sp4wn> LABEL=
[03:04] <LjL> h3sp4wn: can you label a swap partition though? i thought labels belonged to the filesystem
[03:05] <h3sp4wn> or you can just name your disk as you want with a udev rule using the serial number of the disk - call it disk0
[03:05] <h3sp4wn> Never tried labeling a swap partition
[03:06] <Azzco> Hmm it had the wrong UUID....
[03:06] <Azzco> changed it into the one I got from blkid
[03:08] <dominik> I have a problem in Kubuntu I can't set 1024*768/85Hz permanently, every time I restart I have 75Hz instead of 85Hz
[03:08] <dominik> does someone know know what to do?
[03:09] <nuxil> is ther a tool that allows me to convert from ntfs to ext2|3 ?
[03:09] <h3sp4wn> dominik: edit xorg.conf change 1024x768 to 1024x768_85
[03:10] <Azzco> nuxil: I think you'll have to recreate that partition...
[03:12] <dominik> h3sp4wn: there's no 1024x768 I have something like that: ModeLine       "1024x768@85" 94.5 1024 1072 1168 1376 768 769 772 808 +hsync +vsync
[03:14] <h3sp4wn> dominik: change the @ to _
[03:15] <h3sp4wn> dominik: Are you using nvidia or not ?
[03:15] <dominik> yes I'm using nvidia
[03:15] <h3sp4wn> You don't need modelines at all
[03:15] <h3sp4wn> Modes           "1280x1024_60" "1024x768_60" "800x600_60" "640x480_60" (that is what I use - I have used mode lines before but you don't need to)
[03:16] <h3sp4wn> remember if you are using 9xxx you need Option          "DynamicTwinView" "False" otherwise xrandr etc won't display the real modes
[03:17] <dominik> You mean in the xorg?
[03:18] <h3sp4wn> maybe you should read some stuff in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx
[03:20] <fernando> Hi, I have install the nvidia drivers for kubuntu 6.10 and they work, but after I restart my computer I get these messege:
[03:20] <fernando> Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has the version 1.0-7184, but
[03:20] <fernando> this X module has the version 1.0-9746.  Please make sure that the kernel
[03:20] <fernando> module and all NVIDIA driver components have the same version.
[03:20] <fernando> in the install process, the compile recompile the drivers for 1.0.7184...
[03:21] <fernando> but the configuration was write with 1.0.9746
[03:21] <fernando> where is the file to correct this problem??
[03:22] <h3sp4wn> You need the legacy drivers probably if its trying to load 7184
[03:22] <h3sp4wn> remove nvidia-glx and install nvidia-glx-legacy
[03:23] <fernando> I use the command "sh mydrivres.run" to install.. how can I removed?
[03:23] <fernando> and how I install this legacy drivers?
[03:24] <fernando> anyway.. the drivers work.. with 3D acceleration.. if I install the drivers.. and I use "startx" everything is just fine..
[03:24] <fernando> the problem is only if I restart the computer
[03:24] <h3sp4wn> don't use nvidia's installer - it will only cause you load of problems
[03:25] <fernando> ok.. so..how I remove it?
[03:25] <h3sp4wn> use the uninstall option of the .run file
[03:26] <h3sp4wn> sh whatever.run --help
[03:26] <h3sp4wn> I think its sh whatever.run --uninstall
[03:27] <distro-testerzzz> hello jucato and and good rest to me later
[03:27] <h3sp4wn> Using those .run's is fighting against the package manager
[03:27] <xsacha> fight fight fight!!!
[03:28] <raeez> !aptfix
[03:28] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[03:28] <Jucato> h3sp4wn: not if you uninstall nvidia-glx (and nvidia-kernel-common)
[03:28] <h3sp4wn> Jucato: and if you get a mesa update ?
[03:29] <h3sp4wn> Jucato: will overwrite libGL.so.1
[03:29] <Jucato> hm?
[03:29] <Jucato> well, I'll have to see. so far, no updates yet :)
[03:29] <h3sp4wn> nvidia-glx (even if you need to build from debian for a newer version) diverts it so its clean you could do it manually I suppose
[03:31] <dominik> ok I'll do it thanks
[03:32] <sasoyna> hi guys i return here because i can't resolve
[03:33] <sasoyna> From 2 days now i enter in my (k)ubuntu box "manually"
[03:34] <sasoyna> i mean trough failsafe-->startkde
[03:36] <sasoyna> how can i return to the normal "automatic" mode?
[03:38] <yipe> my kaffeine is broken, it's installed, but when I try to run it it doesn't start up
[03:38] <yipe> and when I try it from the command line, it just gives me another prompt, as if it were "done" with that
[03:38] <yipe> no errors, nothing :(
[03:41] <GalaZ> have anyone call of duty 2?
[03:41] <GalaZ> yipe: try to restart pc
[03:42] <yipe> I've done that several times since this error started occuring
[03:43] <Hobbsee> hey yipe
[03:44] <yipe> hi Hobbsee
[03:44] <Hobbsee> yipe: tried rm'ing the relevant config files?
[03:44] <GalaZ> have anyone call of duty 2?
[03:44] <yipe> Hobbsee, which ones are those?
[03:44] <Hobbsee> GalaZ: try in #winehq
[03:44] <yipe> I did try apt-get remove --purge kaffeine and then reinstalled
[03:44] <Hobbsee> yipe: .kde/share/apps/kaffeine and .kde/share/config/kaffeine*
[03:44] <yipe> same thing right?
[03:45] <Hobbsee> maybe
[03:45] <Hobbsee> depends
[03:46] <yipe> okay, I removed those files
[03:46] <yipe> no change :(
[03:47] <Jucato> purge only removes system installed files. configs/data in /home won't be removed
[03:47] <LjL> right
[03:47] <yipe> oh okay
[03:47] <LjL> but aside from that, it should do a pretty thorough job
[03:47] <yipe> so now what?
[03:48] <Aattila> Hi! I want to install sun-java5 but I can't click ok in the licence agreement. How can I continue the installation?
[03:48] <LjL> aside from purging and removing the files in .kde/ that the hobbsee mentioneth? no idea. that should work in theory, if it doesn't it most likely means that kaffeine just *is* broken
[03:48] <LjL> there were a couple of updates today and the past few days
[03:49] <yipe> LjL, this problem started a week or two ago
[03:49] <LjL> yipe: perhaps run kaffeine under strace. if you manage to make sense of the mess, perhaps you can spot some file that it's unable to load
[03:49] <yipe> I have no idea how to do that
[03:50] <LjL> strace -f -e trace=file kaffeine
[03:50] <LjL> will show all the files that kaffeine attempts to open or check
[03:50] <LjL> at least it should
[03:52] <intelikey> who is good at finding xorg problems ?
[03:52] <intelikey> i've got a broken X
[03:52] <LjL> xorg *is* the problem :P
[03:52] <LjL> virtual terminals are the solution :P
[03:52] <intelikey> yeah  but that don't help :)
[03:52] <LjL> well, i'm not good at unbreaking axes... but expose your problem :P
[03:53] <yipe> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4415/
[03:53] <yipe> there, there's a million files not found
[03:53] <intelikey> ok xorg won't run for anyone but root.   i owned all homes and checked perms on every thing i could think of..
[03:54] <LjL> uhm yipe, yeah, at a quick glance, it seems to me that quite a few of those files *should* exist
[03:54] <yipe> yeah....
[03:54] <LjL> yipe: check if /usr/lib/libexpat.so.1 exists
[03:55] <LjL> intelikey: meaning if you use "startx", if KDM?
[03:55] <LjL> second if=or
[03:55] <intelikey> i'm not getting any error messages it just aborts at the first x cursor   for gdm and startx for everyone but root.   however X will run for users.
[03:55] <h3sp4wn> intelikey: Have you nosuid on  /usr ?
[03:55] <Hobbsee> intelikey: you logging into kde, or gnome?
[03:55] <LjL> intelikey: meaning that if a user types "X", it starts? that's interesting, what happens after that should be entirely in userland...
[03:56] <h3sp4wn> intelikey: (I remember you did at one point)
[03:56] <intelikey> h3sp4wn good call but no this is not my box.  it's default
[03:56] <intelikey> Hobbsee both.  installed ubuntu and kubuntu on this one.
[03:57] <yipe> no libexpat.so.1 but there is a libex.so.2
[03:57] <intelikey> dev/hdb1 on / type ext3 (rw)
[03:58] <intelikey> see it even has partitions ^
[03:59] <LjL> yipe: are you sure kaffeine isn't really missing some dependencies? apt-get upgrade works as advertized?
[03:59] <yipe> yes it does
[04:00] <yipe> oh jeez, I just found libexpat.s0.1
[04:00] <intelikey> LjL "what happens after that should be entirely in userland..." <<< yeah.  thus the first thing i did was own all homes.   what ever the issue is it's permissions related somewhere  but i haven't really done anything to this install.  was just trying to help setup a printer and the next day no X
[04:03] <intelikey> i found it.  well fixed it without finding it...  something in /usr/share    i issued chmod 755 /usr/share/*   and it's working now.
[04:03] <LjL> intelikey: maybe do a "find /usr -perm /=s" to find suid binaries
[04:03] <LjL> hm
[04:03] <intelikey> LjL too late.
[04:03] <intelikey> :)
[04:03] <LjL> drwxr-xr-x    2 root root
[04:03] <LjL> every file in /usr/share is like this for me
[04:04] <LjL> well, every directory, since they're all directories
[04:04] <intelikey> now on to the printer problem...
[04:04] <intelikey> LjL yep now these are.
[04:05] <LjL> yipe: basically after every library it tries to load, it complains about missing /etc/ld.so.nohwcap - but i don't have that file either, and there's no such complaints for me
[04:05] <intelikey> what would cause all usb devices to disapear ?
[04:05] <intelikey> except lsusb still sees them ?
[04:07] <spawn57> removing the driver??
[04:07] <LjL> yipe... i really think i don't have a clue
[04:07] <yipe> okay lol
[04:07] <GalaZ> !paste
[04:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:09] <DiCrEn> hola
[04:09] <yipe> LjL, wanna hear something REALLY bizarre? I created a blank file called /etc/ld.so.nohwcap, and strace still says it can't find it
[04:10] <LjL> yipe: try stracing other KDE programs if they do the same...
[04:10] <LjL> programs that work, i mean
[04:11] <LjL> yipe: ah but wait, i *do* also get that error... lots of times... it's just that the strace output is so long that i totally missed it :\
[04:11] <LjL> i thought i was looking at the same part of it as the one you pasted, but i wasn't
[04:12] <LjL> yipe: what about kaffeine --verbose
[04:12] <yipe> john@Michelle:~$ kaffeine --verbose
[04:12] <yipe> john@Michelle:~$
[04:13] <LjL> hm, not too surprising, since the first messages that i get from it come after the window has already opened
[04:13] <LjL> yipe: wait you don't happen to have an instance already running (or pretending to)? ps aux | grep kaff
[04:14] <yipe> john      4678  0.0  1.0  32408 10764 ?        S    Feb04   0:00 kaffeine -session 10b2d5cfcd000116916235600000045080152_1170600913_400288
[04:14] <yipe> john     31716  0.0  0.0   2796   752 pts/2    R+   09:17   0:00 grep kaff
[04:14] <yipe> looks like I do
[04:15] <LjL> yipe: kill it and try "kaffeine --verbose" again
[04:15] <yipe> :|
[04:15] <yipe> it seems to bve working!
[04:15] <LjL> yipe: well but anyway you said this is going on for a week... i suppose you've restarted X once or twice during this time? =)
[04:15] <yipe> yes I have
[04:16] <LjL> yipe: how do you start it normally? menu? click on a video file?
[04:17] <yipe> mostly click on a video file
[04:17] <LjL> if you start it by clicking on a video file, perhaps it just doesn't like the file and stays stuck - running but with no window
[04:17] <yipe> maybe, but now everything seems to be running normally
[04:17] <LjL> weird nuff
[04:23] <endo602> hello there
[04:24] <juan_> hi
[04:24] <endo602> is there anyways that i can make a shortcut key that pastes my password?
[04:24] <endo602> its annoying to keep typing my password
[04:24] <endo602> im the only one that uses this computer
[04:25] <juan_> I dont know im a newbie
[04:25] <HymnToLife> endo602, which password ?
[04:25] <michele> endo602: use kwallet
[04:25] <michele> for passwords
[04:25] <endo602> my root password
[04:26] <michele> you could select your password with mouse
[04:26] <HymnToLife> endo602, use sudo ans nopasswd in your /etc/sudoers
[04:26] <michele> and then center click any time you need to type
[04:26] <HymnToLife> and*
[04:26] <michele> HymnToLife: i did not consider the unsafe way :)
[04:27] <HymnToLife> yeah, it's a bad idea indeed
[04:31] <linux_> hi all, I'm busy with a academy project, how can I install office on linux ?
[04:31] <malik> !office
[04:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about office - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:32] <malik> !opn office
[04:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opn office - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:32] <malik> !open office
[04:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about open office - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:32] <malik> !openoffice
[04:32] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org
[04:33] <malik> linux_: sudo apt-get install openoffice.org
[04:34] <malik> linux_: or u looking for MS Office?
[04:35] <linux_> for ms office
[04:35] <malik> Guyz any idea when kde4 coming out?
[04:35] <nuxil> gl
[04:35] <hatta> kde4 is gay?
[04:35] <LjL> hatta: excuse me?
[04:35] <LjL> !language
[04:35] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:36] <nuxil> hatta, how can a software be gay
[04:36] <hatta> I dunno, ask malik
[04:36] <LjL> ...
[04:36] <malik> linux_: for that u ll need Wine or VMWare
[04:36] <malik> dont ask me i didnt bring up that rasict crap
[04:37] <linux_> oke, thanks malik I will look :)
[04:37] <djwilcox> hi has anyone managed to connect to itunes daap stream in edgy
[04:37] <nuxil> hatta, luckely you have choises in linux. if you dont like the upcomming kde4 use another wm|de. such as gnome xfce etc etc
[04:37] <hatta> jeeze, it was a pun
[04:37] <malik> !wine|linux_
[04:37] <ubotu> linux_: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:38] <djwilcox> my itunes daap stream shows up in rhythm box but doesnt connect
[04:38] <djwilcox> i have zero config turned on in system prefs
[04:38] <malik> Guyz any idea when kde4 coming out?.....................any suggestions?
[04:41] <malik> !kde 4
[04:41] <ubotu> For information on KDE 4 (not to be released for quite some time yet), see: http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/kde4.html. Also worth checking are: appeal/phonon/plasma/solid.kde.org
[04:42] <intelikey> *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x0816e838 *** Entity: line 2486: parser error : Extra content at the end of the document </printer> ^ printer HP-PSC_750 not found! kdeprint: WARNING: PPD syntax error, PPD parse failed.
[05:01] <olimpico> Can someone please tell me a repository to download "konverter"?
[05:01] <deathnote> !beryl
[05:02] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:04] <ICQnumber> your repo server is offline
 is it easy to set up an ati graphic driver in ubuntu or kubuntu?
[05:05] <ICQnumber> your repo server is offlineyour repo server is offline
 is it easy to set up an ati graphic driver in ubuntu or kubuntu?
[05:05] <ICQnumber> !ati
[05:05] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:07] <theshadow> !wireless
[05:07] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:09] <olimpico> Can someone please tell me a repository to download "konverter"?
[05:09] <ByronFortescue> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4425/ what's up with that?
[05:09] <deathnote> hi.. what's alglx and glx ?
[05:09] <deathnote> !glx
[05:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:09] <deathnote> !alglx
[05:09] <ByronFortescue> deathnote, nice 3d stuff
[05:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alglx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:10] <deathnote> does it got to do with ati or nvidia?
[05:10] <ByronFortescue> eeh, yeah, it works on only one of em
[05:10] <ByronFortescue> can't remember which
[05:10] <ByronFortescue> prolly the nvidia
[05:10] <deathnote> serious..hmm
[05:10] <deathnote> i was about to try to install beryl
[05:10] <olimpico> Does someone here uses "Konverter"????
[05:11] <ByronFortescue> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIGLX
[05:12] <deathnote> how to make my firefox as default browser? it keeps openning konqueror
[05:12] <ByronFortescue> deinstall konqueror ^_^
[05:13] <deathnote> serious??
[05:13] <ByronFortescue> j/k
[05:13] <deathnote> haha
[05:13] <ByronFortescue> doesn't firefox ask to be default browser?
[05:13] <deathnote> any environment parameters i can edit?
[05:13] <bubu1uk> not really, u can setup it in settings
[05:13] <bubu1uk> firefox is default for ubuntu, not for KDE
[05:13] <deathnote> !kde
[05:13] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[05:14] <deathnote> !kdm
[05:14] <ubotu> kdm: X display manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 611 kB, installed size 1480 kB
[05:14] <deathnote> k.. confused by ubuntu..kde..kdm
[05:14] <GalaZ> raga qualcuno di voi ke ha installato una skeda video ati?
[05:14] <GalaZ> ops sorry....
[05:15] <deathnote> where in settings can i set default for firefox?
[05:15] <bubu1uk> wait
[05:16] <ByronFortescue> deathnote, you have an easy package to set up kde on ubuntu
[05:16] <ByronFortescue> !kubuntu-desktop
[05:16] <ubotu> k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[05:16] <bubu1uk> dethnote: ur' on kubuntu? KDE?
[05:16] <deathnote> i think my dapper kubuntu already have kde.. (or x windows if u call it?)
[05:16] <deathnote> kubuntu dapper
[05:17] <bubu1uk> if it's kubuntu, then u have KDE
[05:17] <deathnote> ubuntu is gnome right? hehe yeah
[05:17] <deathnote> so.. xwindows is just kde right?
[05:17] <deathnote> or xserver
[05:17] <erhanr> gij-4.1 eats much memory . how about you ?
[05:18] <bubu1uk> deathnote: go to system settings> default applications and change default web browser
[05:18] <bubu1uk> xwindows = Xorg server
[05:18] <theshadow> !ndiswrapper
[05:18] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:18] <theshadow> :S
[05:18] <ByronFortescue> deathnote: no KDE is a window manager.. it manages your windows.. it works on top of xwindows
[05:18] <theshadow> That help is out of date
[05:18] <deathnote> there's no default applications under system settings.. hmm
[05:19] <bubu1uk> standard applications?
[05:19] <bubu1uk> cant remember how exactly it's called in english, use other language now
[05:19] <bubu1uk> at personal folder
[05:19] <deathnote> haha..
[05:19] <olimpico> Come on guys, I can't believe nobody has ever used konverter?????
[05:19] <deathnote> got it
[05:19] <bubu1uk> !konverter
[05:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konverter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:20] <deathnote> its Kde Component
[05:20] <bubu1uk> what for?
[05:20] <deathnote> thx
[05:20] <bubu1uk> what is konverter for?
[05:20] <slyfox> Does anyone know what can I use to do automatic backups of folders ?
[05:20] <olimpico> I'm trying to switch from Gentoo to Kubuntu, and that's the only application I'm missing, can someone please tell me if there is a repository which has this app?
[05:20] <olimpico> bubu1uk: To convert videos
[05:20] <BluesKaj> !soundkonvertor
[05:20] <ByronFortescue> try the Debian debs?
[05:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about soundkonvertor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:21] <ByronFortescue> slyfox: maybe submersion?
[05:21] <ByronFortescue> !submersion
[05:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about submersion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:21] <ByronFortescue> hmm
[05:21] <olimpico> !konverter
[05:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konverter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:21] <BluesKaj> olimpico, have you looked at tovid or devede ?
[05:21] <bubu1uk> olimpico: soundkonverter?
[05:21] <bubu1uk> !soundkonverter
[05:21] <ubotu> soundkonverter: KDE frontend to various audio converters. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1047 kB, installed size 1980 kB
[05:21] <BluesKaj> !tovid
[05:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tovid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:21] <BluesKaj> !devede
[05:21] <ubotu> devede: Video DVD creator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 243 kB, installed size 664 kB
[05:21] <olimpico> BluesKaj: I'm really new to kubuntu, I have just started to use it can you tell me what is that?
[05:21] <ByronFortescue> http://www.kraus.tk/projects/konverter/packages/
[05:22] <ByronFortescue> konverter packages
[05:22] <bubu1uk> !keep
[05:22] <ubotu> keep: backup system for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.0-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 189 kB, installed size 836 kB
[05:22] <slyfox> Keep does not work - http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/5758/keeprg3.jpg
[05:22] <bubu1uk> slyfox: !keep
[05:22] <bubu1uk> damn, not that way. lol
[05:22] <deathnote> ok i'm installing beryl.. at the part where it says linux-dri-modules-2.6.15-27-386 IS not up, and needs to be fixed.
[05:23] <deathnote> my kernel is 2.6.15-27-386.. how do i install that package then? apt-get install isn't up with for this
[05:23] <BluesKaj> tovid is a dvd dvd maker , author and convertor all rolled into one ...there is a terminal interface and and a graphics user interface
[05:23] <slyfox> Is konserve any good ?
[05:23] <olimpico> BluesKaj: I don't want a DVD converter, I want to be able to convert video and audio codecs and formats without having to use the bloody mencoder in the console. Actually converter uses mencoder but with graphics ans nice windows.
[05:23] <ByronFortescue> slyfox: write your own script ^_^
[05:24] <ByronFortescue> !konserve
[05:24] <ubotu> konserve: KDE system tray application that performs periodic backups. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.3-3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 501 kB, installed size 1476 kB
[05:25] <ByronFortescue> try it out i would say
[05:25] <slyfox> ByronFortescue: I am just a noob
[05:25] <bubu1uk> slyfox: i found only soundkonverter in my repos.
[05:25] <slyfox> ByronFortescue: konserve is kind of old, last updated back in 2004
[05:25] <ByronFortescue> slyfox: don't worry me too, ah, hmm
[05:25] <bubu1uk> is that what u want?
[05:26] <BluesKaj> olimpico, that's what tovid does , but mencoder is used as a tool in this case AFAIK : http://tovid.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
[05:26] <slyfox> bubu1uk: dont; think so. sound is not what I need. I need a simple gui backup utility
[05:26] <ByronFortescue> slyfox: and keep is also not worth it?
[05:26] <bubu1uk> slyfox: ah, sorry, got confused with too many conversations. :p
[05:27] <bubu1uk> slyfox: why keep doesnt work?
[05:27] <Ace2016> Hi all
[05:27] <ByronFortescue> Hi ace2016
[05:27] <slyfox> ByronFortescue: keep is grea,t But I get this when backing up to a network folder which is mounter with full write premission: http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/5758/keeprg3.jpg
[05:27] <slyfox> bubu1uk: http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/5758/keeprg3.jpg
[05:28] <ByronFortescue> hmm, maybe you can build it from source?
[05:28] <bubu1uk> or just try to reinstall.
[05:28] <ByronFortescue> yeah, together with pyton maybe
[05:28] <slyfox> bubu1uk: keep works fine when backing up to local fodlers
[05:28] <slyfox> ByronFortescue: I am only a noob
[05:28] <bubu1uk> ah, i c
[05:29] <ByronFortescue> weird problem
[05:29] <slyfox> yeah
[05:29] <bubu1uk> true
[05:29] <ByronFortescue> something to do with how the network share is formatted?
[05:30] <ByronFortescue> !rdiff-backup
[05:30] <ubotu> rdiff-backup: remote incremental backup. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.5-1 (edgy), package size 168 kB, installed size 664 kB
[05:30] <caris_mere> When trying my webcam I get this error can't open /dev/video0: No such file or directory
[05:30] <caris_mere> any ideas?
[05:30] <ByronFortescue> caris: does it work in other programs?
[05:31] <caris_mere> no
[05:31] <olimpico> BluesKaj: The same as konverter
[05:31] <MidMark> amarok 1.4.5 will reach edgy?
[05:32] <olimpico> BluesKaj: And tovid is a gnome app? which repository??
[05:32] <ByronFortescue> caris: have you installed a driver for your webcam?
[05:32] <caris_mere> ByronFortescue: I think so, I have been all over trying things
[05:33] <caris_mere> ByronFortescue: I have a Logitech QuickCam Chat, and I have installed spca5xx*
[05:33] <ByronFortescue> ok
[05:35] <ByronFortescue> caris_mere: have you built the driver from source? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=303330&page=2
[05:36] <yaccin> is there already a repository for amarok 1.4.5?
[05:36] <alex__> HI all, I have installed windows on my C partition but now grub is gone. How can I reinstall it ?
[05:36] <virnik> lol
[05:36] <ByronFortescue> !amarok
[05:36] <ubotu> Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.4 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[05:36] <bubu1uk> amarok latest? maybe
[05:36] <virnik> just tryed cedega, latest
[05:36] <virnik> and World of WarCraft
[05:36] <virnik> piece of cake
[05:36] <caris_mere> ByronFortescue: I did this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75284.html
[05:36] <virnik> and its running so fast!
[05:36] <virnik> nice
[05:36] <alex__> Also, I want to dual boot so I need to add an entry to the menu.lst to boot windows.  Any URL For examples ?
[05:36] <virnik> I do not need windaz anymore
[05:37] <virnik> I have used them only for WoW, and now... :-)
[05:37] <bubu1uk> !grub
[05:37] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:37] <bubu1uk> !windows
[05:37] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[05:37] <bubu1uk> lol. not this one
[05:37] <virnik> lol
[05:37] <virnik> windaz sucks
[05:37] <virnik> hard
[05:37] <virnik> everyone know that
[05:37] <bubu1uk> !dualboot
[05:37] <virnik> but still, some games like wow, better runs in windaz
[05:37] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[05:38] <virnik> so
[05:38] <virnik> no more of this :-)
[05:38] <bubu1uk> alex_: have a look at ubuntuguide.org. might be there something
[05:38] <ByronFortescue> caris_mere: that looks like something that should work :) i dunno how to help you out, maybe you can post your q to the forums or someone else maybe has an idea to help you out here..
[05:39] <bubu1uk> cant remember where i seen how to repair grub
[05:39] <ByronFortescue> !vistta
[05:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vistta - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:39] <ByronFortescue> !vista
[05:39] <ubotu> vista is the new operating system by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org
[05:39] <ByronFortescue> ^_^
[05:39] <bubu1uk> lol.
[05:40] <caris_mere> ByronFortescue: Thanks, I guess I will try restarting and praying and then maybe posting
[05:40] <acemo> what boot options should i use with the kubuntu live cd when i want only the text base?
[05:41] <|Toad> i need help with kubuntu
[05:41] <h3sp4wn> Vista has a nice colorscheme nice and dark - too much white annoys me
[05:42] <ByronFortescue> Toad: what's the problem?
[05:42] <|Toad> i'm trying to install my printer, but it cant find the drivers
[05:42] <|Toad> Unable to load the requested driver:
[05:42] <|Toad> Unable to create the Foomatic driver [Epson-ActionLaser_1100,omni] . Either that driver does not exist, or you don't have the required permissions to perform that operation.
[05:43] <ByronFortescue> do you run the thing with root permissions?
[05:43] <Lam_> h3sp4wn: too much dark can get old after a while though. i like a mixture of white and gray
[05:43] <|Toad> i also can play videos or mp3s, and i cant install firefox, but the printer is top priority
[05:43] <|Toad> that is with root permissions in system settings
[05:43] <Dr_willis> !root
[05:43] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:43] <Dr_willis> clarify the problem?
[05:44] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. i just realized that the adapt-notify thing tells me there are updates.. but ive never noticed a way to have it 'auto update'
[05:44] <acemo> is there a way to use Option "MonitorLayout" "LVDS,AUTO" on booting the live cd?
[05:44] <Dr_willis> acemo,  what video card ya using? nvidia and 2 monitors?
[05:44] <BluesKaj> will nero .nrg files burn as iso in K3B ?
[05:44] <ByronFortescue> toad: can you maybe try to use a generic printer driver?
[05:45] <acemo> its a ATI x700
[05:45] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  ive seen some that can and some that dont.
[05:45] <Lam_> Dr_willis: i don't think it bodes well with freedom of choice if updates are automatic :/
[05:45] <BluesKaj> well, i'm about to find out , Dr_willis :)
[05:45] <killermach> I have a laptop and an extra monitor installed. how do I setup xinerama?
[05:45] <Dr_willis> Lam_,  but look at it this way... my wife is on.. she sees updates.. i may go weeks without ever gettting on the machine.. so NO updates till i manually go to each machine.
[05:45] <Dr_willis> Lam_,  for freedom - there should be that option.
[05:45] <BluesKaj> it's burning , but i dunno if the video will turn out
[05:45] <Dr_willis> since i always install all the updates anyway
[05:46] <Lam_> Dr_willis: yeah, i do too. i want an option like that as well
[05:46] <costy> sal allll
[05:46] <|Toad> any printer driver i choose says that
[05:46] <Dr_willis> Lam_,  i imagine theres a way to do it.. just not obvious. :)
[05:46] <costy> sunt roman
[05:46] <ByronFortescue> !foomatic-db-engine
[05:46] <Gretl> i dont know your wife but i strongly guess she is able to click at that sign updates
[05:46] <ubotu> foomatic-db-engine: linuxprinting.org printer support - programs. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.2-20060925-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 261 kB, installed size 832 kB
[05:46] <acemo> Dr_willis: u know how to do such an option to the live cd? as my friend has too little knowledge about linux to install from konsole
[05:47] <Dr_willis> Gretl,  but she needs the 'admin user' password to actually install them.
[05:47] <Dr_willis> Gretl,  which she dont have. :)
[05:47] <|Toad> so, how do i make sure i have foomatic installed?
[05:47] <Dr_willis> acemo,   not that i am aware of.. other then going to the console.  id say search the forums for boot/kernel/cheatcodes for the live cd.
[05:48] <ByronFortescue> Toad: open up a terminal or synaptic
[05:48] <Gretl> then you need to wirte a short script with root privileges for apt- get update
[05:48] <|Toad> okay
[05:48] <ByronFortescue> toad: in the terminal, type sudo apt-get install foomatic-db-engine and it will say if it's already installed
[05:49] <|Toad> Reading package lists... Done
[05:49] <|Toad> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:49] <|Toad> foomatic-db-engine is already the newest version.
[05:49] <|Toad> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:50] <Dr_willis> there was no reall nead to paste that. :)
[05:50] <|Toad> true, sorry
[05:50] <Dr_willis> heh heh.
[05:50] <ByronFortescue> well,  hmmm..
[05:51] <h3sp4wn> !confmiss
[05:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about confmiss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:51] <h3sp4wn> If its not working maybe you need to do confmiss
[05:51] <h3sp4wn> apt-get install --reinstall -o DPkg::Options::=--force-confmiss -o DPkg::Options::=--force-confnew foomatic-db-engine
[05:52] <|Toad> resintall is not possible, it cannot be downlaoded
[05:56] <Dr_willis> 0_o
[05:58] <|Toad> i'[m running kubuntu 6.06.1 i386 dvd install
[05:58] <|Toad> the sad thing is that it seemed to have ran better off the livecd compared to hte actual install
[05:59] <|Toad> i cant get it to see any printer drivers
[06:00] <Dr_willis> using the kde printer control panel thing you mean?
[06:00] <|Toad> i go to system setting,s click printers, put in the password, ckick add, lpt1, pick a driver from the list (every driver does it), and it says that it cant find the driver or i dont have permissions
[06:00] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. so you did go in to admin mode by putting the password in at the bottom...
[06:01] <|Toad> yes
[06:01] <Dr_willis> you got an actual parrallel port printer? heh :)
[06:01] <|Toad> yup
[06:01] <|Toad> an actual epcon actionlaser 1500
[06:01] <|Toad> built in 93
[06:01] <|Toad> the actionlaser 1100 drivers worked in debian
[06:02] <Dr_willis> ive not used 6.06 in ages.
[06:02] <|Toad> i was told to use 6.06 cuz 6.1 was stoll buggy or something
[06:02] <Dr_willis> buggy? never noticed..
[06:02] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:02] <slyfox> I am noob, can someone help? Is there anyway to make this command auto run? "rdiff-backup source destination"  like maybe with that crone thing ?
[06:02] <Dr_willis> you may want to fire up the pacakge manager and search for 'foomatic' and install all the foomatic packages
[06:02] <devilsadvocate> |Toad, that was a while ag, i presume :)
[06:03] <|Toad> i was first told to use debian, i got it and installed it, asked for help and they were like, if your such a noob, why did you pick debian
[06:03] <|Toad> no, i was told that 2 days ago
[06:03] <|Toad> in ##linux
[06:04] <devilsadvocate> |Toad, 6.10 is fine, and so is 6.06
[06:05] <Dr_willis> slyfox,  you could set up a cron job yes.. that would proberly be the best way to get it to run once a day, or every hr, or whatever
[06:05] <bubu1uk> slyfox: there is KDE frontend for cron.
[06:05] <bubu1uk> !kron
[06:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kron - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:05] <bubu1uk> ops
[06:05] <bubu1uk> !Kcron
[06:05] <ubotu> kcron: the KDE crontab editor. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 187 kB, installed size 544 kB
[06:06] <Dr_willis> i do recall the cups stuff not installing ALL the varooud printer drivers by default..   i guess some of the older ones are in other packages..  i needed some for my old printers
[06:06] <slyfox> Dr_willis: but how do I do it? "rdiff-backup source destination" that is just a line I have to manually type into Konsole? How do I make it a one click job or an executabel or a program or whatever it msut be ?
[06:06] <Dr_willis> slyfox,  now would be a good time to read a cron tutorial or 2.
[06:07] <Dr_willis> since id have to go read some to remeber... :)
[06:07] <jhutchins_wk> slyfox: Did I give you that dos/windows/linux HOWTO?
[06:07] <nuxil> hi all
[06:07] <slyfox> jhutchins_wk: no
[06:08] <jhutchins_wk> slyfox: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html
[06:08] <nuxil> how can i play wmv files.. i have installed the xine extra codes. but still it wount play thouse files
[06:08] <Dr_willis> wowsers kcron can be a little bit intimmidating..
[06:08] <Slackwise> nuxil: I would recommend installing "VLC Media Player" simply because it plays everything :P
[06:08] <angasule> !wmv
[06:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:08] <jhutchins_wk> slyfox: What you want to do is to test your command from the console.  If it works as expected, you can either make a shortcut on your desktop to run it manually, or you can schedule it with chron.
[06:09] <Dr_willis> kcron -> system crontab --> Tasks -> make new task :)
[06:09] <angasule> Slackwise: it's horrible, though :( the interface, I mean
[06:09] <Slackwise> angasule: Yea :(
[06:09] <Slackwise> The default interface is terrible. True.
[06:09] <bubu1uk> nuxil: follow guide in ubuntuguide.org > multimedia codecs
[06:09] <h3sp4wn> mplayer plays everything I have thrown at it
[06:10] <nuxil> ok thanks
[06:10] <slyfox> jhutchins_wk: So I would have to create one of those bash scripts ?
[06:10] <jhutchins_wk> slyfox: No, you can put a command directly in a shortcut or in a crontab.
[06:10] <jhutchins_wk> slyfox: If it's a multi-line command, several commands to do in order, then you create a script and schedule that.
[06:10] <Dr_willis> of course you may want to modify the command/script so any output gets logged somewhere.
[06:11] <jhutchins_wk> Dr_willis: Output from a cron job should be emailed to the owner.
[06:11] <Dr_willis> 'should' :) and he may or may not want that..
[06:11] <slyfox> My head is spinning
[06:12] <Dr_willis> time to learn some basics and get reading i guess slyfox
[06:12] <h3sp4wn> fcron is quite nice
[06:12] <h3sp4wn> !fcron
[06:12] <ubotu> fcron: cron-like scheduler with extended capabilities. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.0.0-2 (edgy), package size 175 kB, installed size 668 kB
[06:12] <Dr_willis> its all rather straight forward. :)
[06:12] <slyfox> What would I do with this line? "rdiff-backup source destination" ?
[06:13] <jhutchins_wk> What did I just suggest?
[06:13] <Dr_willis> slyfox,  http://www.unixgeeks.org/security/newbie/unix/cron-1.html
[06:13] <jhutchins_wk> Try it from the console.
[06:13] <jhutchins_wk> If it works, make a shortcut to run it manually or schedule it.
[06:13] <slyfox> jhutchins_wk: it works fine from console and does the job
[06:13] <jhutchins_wk> slyfox: Excellent.  What do you want to do with it?
[06:13] <slyfox> jhutchins_wk: but hwo do I make that shortcut ?
[06:14] <Dr_willis> edit the crontab file by hand.. or use that kcron tool.
[06:14] <jhutchins_wk> Right click on the desktop and see if you can stumble your way through.
[06:14] <slyfox> jhutchins_wk: I want this commadn to auto run evey 3 days
[06:14] <jhutchins_wk> slyfox: In that case, you'll want to schedule it using cron.
[06:14] <bubu1uk> slyfox: u been told to use kcron few times here
[06:14] <jhutchins_wk> Dr_willis: I think slyfox may think that to run in a gui there has to be a clickable icon.  Not necessary in this case though.
[06:14] <DaSkreech> two questions :)
[06:15] <DaSkreech> Has anyone installed the amarokFS script?
[06:15] <nuxil> bleh.. typical.. only for 32 bit system
[06:15] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. not sure how ya tell it every 3 days....
[06:15] <jhutchins_wk> slyfox: You will want to read the manpage for cron.  You won't understand most of it, but those words will lurk in your brain.  Eventually, as you learn other stuff, they'll come together.
[06:15] <slyfox> With all the info you gave me, I am a bit confused, I have this command running fine in the konsole. just need to get it auto run evey 3 days. Right click - make a shortcut for what? A text file ?
[06:15] <Dr_willis> http://www.clockwatchers.com/cron_general.html
[06:16] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis, had a successful iso burn of a nero nrg file ...this one worked! :)
[06:16] <Dr_willis> slyfox,  get AWAY from the 'makle a short cut' thing....
[06:16] <jhutchins_wk> slyfox: No, you don't need a shortcut.  You need to read some of the stuff we've given you about cron.
[06:16] <ICQnumber> !ru
[06:16] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[06:16] <jhutchins_wk> After you've read the manpage, either experiment on your own, or come ask us for specific help.
[06:16] <Dr_willis> slyfox,  in a nutshell.. you edit the /etc/crontab file.. putting in a proper entry to run a speficic command with the secific settings to tell cron WHEN to run it.
[06:16] <slyfox> Blueehh. why can't simple Gui applciaitosn work
[06:17] <Dr_willis> http://www.clockwatchers.com/cron_general.html       Looks nice.
[06:17] <jhutchins_wk> DaSkreech: What's it supposed to do?
[06:17] <Dr_willis> slyfox,  KCRON is a gui to the cron system..
[06:17] <jhutchins_wk> slyfox: With great power comes great responsibility.
[06:17] <DaSkreech> It turns amarok into a Front Row like interface
[06:17] <slyfox> Ok, I will read
[06:17] <bubu1uk> slyfox: system >> kcron
[06:17] <jhutchins_wk> slyfox: If you want a simple all-graphical system where you don't have to learn about what's going on, you need a Mac.
[06:18] <Dr_willis> jhutchins_wk,  you dont want to get me started on some of the Mac Disasters ive had. :)
[06:18] <jhutchins_wk> DaSkreech: Unfortunately, I have no clue what "Front Row" might be.
[06:18] <nescius> hello, anything for partisioning new disks?
[06:18] <nescius> *discs
[06:18] <jhutchins_wk> Dr_willis: Still, if that's what he wants, he wants a Mac, not Linux.
[06:18] <bubu1uk> qparted
[06:18] <jhutchins_wk> Linus is not for everyone.
[06:18] <Dr_willis> nescius,  im old skool and  use parted/gpartd/qtpared then edit the fstab.
[06:18] <jhutchins_wk> Er, nor is Linux.
[06:18] <nescius> bubu1uk, thanks
[06:18] <Dr_willis> Thinking is not for Everyone. :)
[06:19] <slyfox> bubu1uk: KCron asks for an executable file? No idea how to make line "rdiff-backup foo bar" exectuable
[06:19] <Dr_willis> rdiff-backup IS an executable file
[06:19] <jhutchins_wk> slyfox: Did you read the man page, or any of the other stuff we sent you?
[06:19] <bubu1uk> thanx Dr_willis
[06:19] <Dr_willis> However you may want to give the full path to the command. and to the files it will be reading/using.
[06:19] <slyfox> jhutchins_wk: Ok, I will read.
[06:20] <DaSkreech> jhutchins_wk: Have you ever seen a 10 ft interface?
[06:20] <jhutchins_wk> DaSkreech: Given that that's a  pretty vague question, yes.
[06:20] <DaSkreech> second is why would a dig <url> not give me an answer section
[06:20] <Dr_willis> I saw a Gameboy tht was like 10 ft tall once....
[06:21] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:21] <jhutchins_wk> Hmmm.  It would appear that "Front Row" is some sort of Apple thingie.
[06:21] <Dr_willis> jhutchins_wk,  :) wonder who they stole that idea from...
[06:22] <Dr_willis> Oh wait did i say that outloud....
[06:22] <rahmetli> is there any command or script to install the same packages in the nubuntu for kubuntu?
[06:22] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:22] <Dr_willis> nubuntu? - if they got a repository add it to the apt.sources and you should be able to use all their packages
[06:22] <Dr_willis> !info nubuntu
[06:22] <ubotu> Package nubuntu does not exist in edgy, edgy-seveas
[06:22] <jhutchins_wk> Amazing that google can find something on "Front Page music".  That's a pretty generic concept, but it does grab it.
[06:23] <Dr_willis> we need a wiki site just for all the ubuntu variants
[06:23] <abhinay> iam getting the fallowing error (pastebin), when i open any KDE application http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4439/
[06:23] <rahmetli> bu the way i am using dapper,does it matter to install those software?
[06:23] <jhutchins_wk> DaSkreech: As for the dig question, either because you passed it a URL instead of a host name, or because it doesn' t have any information on that host.
[06:23] <DaSkreech> jhutchins_wk: Entertainment systems like Windows MPC or Apple or MythTV have what is called a 10 ft interface
[06:24] <DaSkreech>  you can navigate and use it from 10 ft away
[06:24] <DaSkreech> jhutchins_wk: It's not a url it should be a host name
[06:24] <jhutchins_wk> abhinay: what did you most recently change?
[06:24] <DaSkreech>  I can get an answer section on teh other machines
[06:25] <abhinay> jhutchins_wk: nothing
[06:25] <abhinay> jhutchins_wk: i just installed kubuntu-desktop recently
[06:25] <jhutchins_wk> DaSkreech: Then your DNS tree doesn't have any info on that host.
[06:25] <abhinay> jhutchins_wk: iam using KDE now
[06:25] <jhutchins_wk> abhinay: did it ever work correctly?
[06:26] <abhinay> jhutchins_wk: the application opens & works fine
[06:26] <DaSkreech> jhutchins_wk: They all have the same dns server
[06:26] <abhinay> jhutchins_wk: but, iam getting those messages
[06:26] <jhutchins_wk> DaSkreech: So like an IR or Bluetooth or other wireless control.
[06:26] <Dr_willis> rahmetli,  from what i am reading about nubuntu - its a minimal desktop ubuntu variant - with lots of security packages installed by default..
[06:26] <Dr_willis> rahmetli,  so installing those packages shouldent hurt a ubuntu install.
[06:26] <Dr_willis> their official support place ------->   irc.kaffeinenet.com #nubuntu
[06:26] <jhutchins_wk> abhinay: It could be that something's wrong, it could be that it's checking to initialize stuff you don't have.
[06:27] <rahmetli> ok Dr_willis thanks.
[06:27] <jhutchins_wk> abhinay: You could try restarting.
[06:27] <abhinay> jhutchins_wk: samething happens
[06:27] <larsivi> do anyone know if it is possible with multiple (two) displays on the i915 laptop chipset?
[06:27] <jhutchins_wk> DaSkreech: Are these public or private?
[06:27] <jhutchins_wk> abhinay: You mean happens after restarting?  Where do these errors appear?
[06:28] <abhinay> jhutchins_wk: konsole
[06:28] <abhinay> jhutchins_wk: i also tried restarting
[06:28] <jhutchins_wk> abhinay: Are you launching the apps from konsole?
[06:28] <abhinay> jhutchins_wk: sometimes i launch applications from konsole
[06:30] <dominik> Does someone know how to make Beryl start on startup on KDE?
[06:30] <Dr_willis> the beryl wiki/docs i saw the other day covered that topic
[06:30] <jhutchins_wk> abhinay: Ok, here's a guess:  For some reason, a lot of Xorg setups have configuration for a drawing input tablet made by Wacom.  It's even required by the 2.6 kernel on Gentoo.  Although nobody has these things, the setup is woven through all the default xorg and application configurations for some reason.  This means that all your apps try to initialize it when you start them, but because it's not there, they get an error.
[06:30] <jhutchins_wk>   They may try more than once, possibly for more than one model of the stupid thing.
[06:30] <jhutchins_wk> abhinay: So I wouldn't worry about it.
[06:30] <Dr_willis> they made a custome kde_beryl.desktop entry for KDM - that launched it..  that way you could NOT start it if youy wanted to.
[06:31] <the_hammer> http://xkcd.com/c178.html
[06:31] <Dr_willis> I always edit out the wacom entrys in the xorg.conf  :)
[06:31] <dominik> Dr_willis: I did this wiki but something is wrong
[06:31] <jhutchins_wk> Dr_willis: Or if it's broken, which it almost always is.
[06:31] <Dr_willis> jhutchins_wk,  which wiki? i tryed beryl the other day.. and bereyl was broken.
[06:32] <Dr_willis> so i will wait another 5 mo befor trying it again
[06:32] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:32] <the_hammer> SysInfo: Linux 2.6.20-rc6-amd64 |  AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ 1000.000 MHz | Bogomips: 2011.55 | Mem: 299/500M [||||||||||]  | Diskspace: 227.83G Free: 213.57G | Procs: 96 | Uptime: 3 hrs 47 mins 39 secs | Load: 0.08 0.13 0.09  | Vpenis: 58.1 cm | Vboobies: 42F | Screen: ATI Technologies Inc RV370 [ATI Sapphire X550 Silent]  @ 1024x768 (32 bpp) | eth0: In: 56.66M Out: 2.66M
[06:32] <Dr_willis> I did like some of the features of that Mandriva Mettis Live cd with its fancy desktop.
[06:32] <Dr_willis> well bbl.
[06:32] <jhutchins_wk> Dr_willis: Yeah, I'd say they're ~5,6 months from a beta release.
[06:33] <DaSkreech> jhutchins_wk: Bluetooth? Sorry?
[06:33] <Dr_willis> jhutchins_wk,  yep.. thats why i aint even worrying about it at this time. :)
[06:33] <Dr_willis> byees..
[06:33] <jhutchins_wk> DaSkreech: Wireless.
[06:33] <jhutchins_wk> LIRC
[06:33] <DaSkreech> For DNs?
[06:33] <jhutchins_wk> That sort of thing.
[06:33] <jhutchins_wk> No, for remote control of a media server.
[06:36] <DaSkreech> jhutchins_wk: Oh right :) sorting out the convos now :)
[06:37] <DaSkreech> Right but AmarokFS is a script that gives amarok a 10 ft interface so you can have a party and control the flow from across the room
[06:37] <jhutchins_wk> DaSkreech: What do you use for a remote?
[06:40] <DaSkreech> jhutchins_wk: I can't get it to work first of all :)
[06:41] <waylandbill> DaSkreech: never heard of it. Is it a theme or something?
[06:41] <bubu1uk> if i got less than 128 MB memory. should i use alternate CD for installation?
[06:41] <DaSkreech> but My major issue is I can't see the dag.wieers.com site
[06:41] <DaSkreech> waylandbill: Eh?
[06:41] <DaSkreech> waylandbill: What's a theme?
[06:41] <DaSkreech> bubu1uk: can't kill :)
[06:42] <waylandbill> AmarokFS
[06:42] <bubu1uk> well, normal ubuntu/kubuntu cd's dont work. will stop at boot process. lol
[06:42] <DaSkreech> waylandbill: 10 ft interface for amarok
[06:43] <slyfox> jhutchins_wk: I read some stuff but still am confused, I went to KCrone and chose variables and chose SHELL and there for the value I entered: "rdiff-backup source destination" and I cannot run it ?
[06:43] <waylandbill> DaSkreech: yeah. you said that. I was looking for more details.
[06:43] <slyfox> jhutchins_wk: I also tried to mkae the bash with thie line inside ""rdiff-backup source destination"" and it does not launch
[06:43] <bubu1uk> slyfox: choose tasks not variables.
[06:44] <slyfox> bubu1uk: But I cant figure out how to make "rdiff-backup source destination" an executable
[06:44] <slyfox> bubu1uk: .txt file and bash do now work
[06:44] <slyfox> do not work
[06:44] <bubu1uk> you type it same as command in console
[06:45] <DaSkreech> waylandbill: Its in the latest AWN
[06:45] <jhutchins_wk> DaSkreech: dag's site loads here just fine, check your spelling (it was correct above).
[06:45] <slyfox> bubu1uk: where the program is in there I type in "rdiff-backup source destination" ?
[06:45] <jhutchins_wk> DaSkreech: IP is 217.22.63.77
[06:45] <DaSkreech> jhutchins_wk: It's correct Just from this one machine I can't resolve some server names
[06:46] <jhutchins_wk> DaSkreech: Remote control interface for Amarok.  You need a remote control device.
[06:46] <jhutchins_wk> DaSkreech: Something wrong in your DNS setup.
[06:46] <DaSkreech> The standard ones like google.com yahoo.com cnn.com all resolve
[06:46] <waylandbill> DaSkreech: ok. I'll take a look there then. thx
[06:46] <binks_work> ok peeps big prob with my web server apache2 wont load i gat an error
[06:46] <binks_work> (98) Address already in use
[06:46] <jhutchins_wk> DaSkreech: AWN?
[06:47] <binks_work> thats 98 btw
[06:47] <DaSkreech> jhutchins_wk: I figure but the machines seem to have the same setup
[06:47] <DaSkreech> jhutchins_wk: Amarok Weekly Newsletter
[06:47] <jhutchins_wk> binks_work: You have defined the same listen-to port or address in more than one place.
[06:47] <binks_work> but it worked untill today
[06:48] <jhutchins_wk> DaSkreech: So I'm still intrigued, what do you plan to use for your remote device?
[06:48] <rahmetli> to install programs using make and make install what do i have to install?
[06:48] <DaSkreech> jhutchins_wk: IR blaster?
[06:48] <binks_work> how can i fix it the server only runs lamps with x on top
[06:48] <jhutchins_wk> binks_work: EIther you changed a configuration file, or you installed an update that moved/duplicated a configuration line.
[06:48] <DaSkreech> !b-e | rahmetli
[06:48] <ubotu> rahmetli: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:49] <binks_work> can i tell wats connected already
[06:49] <jhutchins_wk> rahmetli: First, make absolutely sure they're not available in deb packages or rpm's.
[06:49] <jhutchins_wk> rahmetli: Next, un-tar the package and read the INSTALL file.
[06:49] <rahmetli> i know, but it cant find make command.
[06:50] <rahmetli> sudo: make: command not found
[06:50] <jhutchins_wk> DaSkreech: What I know of the IR blaster is that it's an OUTPUT control device to control things like CD players, tuners, Cable boxes, etc.
[06:50] <DaSkreech> jhutchins_wk: Still needs a remote
[06:50] <jhutchins_wk> rahmetli: Want to bet that that tip page tells you how to get it?
[06:51] <rodrigo> hola
[06:51] <rodrigo> soy nuevo aqu...
[06:51] <rodrigo> pueden verme..?
[06:51] <rodrigo> 1.. 2... 3... probando..
[06:51] <DaSkreech> !es
[06:51] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:51] <rodrigo> ok
[06:52] <rodrigo> thank you
[06:52] <DaSkreech> gracias
[06:52] <jhutchins_wk> rahmetli: The answer to your question is one line from the bottom when I open that page.
[06:53] <rahmetli> i am checking jhutchins_wk ty.
[06:54] <jhutchins_wk> DaSkreech: Did you know about #amarok?
[06:55] <jhutchins_wk> DaSkreech: There may also be other remote control solutions, take a look at the MythTV project - I know they do remotes.
[06:55] <DaSkreech> Well I was just more interested in the Full screen quality
[06:55] <crube> Is there a command to reinstall a program with apt, instead of first removing and then installing again
[06:56] <DaSkreech> jhutchins_wk:  And Yes I knew about #amarok :)
[06:56] <jhutchins_wk> crube: Most of the package managers I know of don't do that.
[06:57] <jhutchins_wk> crube: There should be some form of -force that works, but often there isn't.
[06:57] <crube> jhutchins yeah, I just need to reinstall kaffeine, and I came to think if there's a command I could later have use for
[06:58] <DaSkreech> Alias I guess
[06:58] <jhutchins_wk> crube: Should be fine to just uninstall then install.
[06:59] <crube> jhutchins_wk:hehe. It's okay :P
[06:59] <DaSkreech> crube: It's pretty simple to make it into one step if you want
[06:59] <DaSkreech> short script in /bin :)
[07:00] <waylandbill> just removing and then installing again only removes the files and unpacks the deb from the apt cache
[07:00] <crube> I used the command "sudo apt-get remove kaffeine" and now it's going to remove kubuntu-desktop with it, Is that alright?
[07:01] <waylandbill> no. that aint right.
[07:02] <waylandbill> there's an option for apt-get. apt-get install --reinstall. That basically unpacks the deb again.
[07:02] <crube> That's what I was looking for thanks
[07:02] <jhutchins_wk> DaSkreech: just &&
[07:02] <jhutchins_wk> waylandbill: Thanks!
[07:02] <DaSkreech> jhutchins_wk: Yeah but I'm talking about the really really lazy
[07:03] <DaSkreech> read that as programmer
[07:03] <waylandbill> mmhmm
[07:03] <daedra> http://xs312.xs.to/xs312/07062/distropoo.png
[07:03] <daedra> :(
[07:04] <crube> Ok, my kaffeine still isn't working. I guess it's becouse of the codecs I installed or something.
[07:04] <waylandbill> daedra: it's mario's fault. :-)
[07:05] <daedra> waylandbill: lol, but seriously, distrowatch won't load for me in Konq
[07:05] <daedra> It loads in Firefox, Lynx etc, but not Konqueror!?!
[07:06] <daedra> I found an alternative http://distrowatch.serve-you.net , but its annoying to be denied access to http://distrowatch.com :(
[07:07] <daedra> It must be server side right? Not my fault?
[07:07] <waylandbill> do you have it doing some browser identification for distrowatch?
[07:07] <daedra> waylandbill: no
[07:08] <DaSkreech> daedra: I only go to distrowatch in konqui
[07:08] <waylandbill> that's about my only guess other than it's not going to the place you think it is.
[07:08] <DaSkreech> I was just reading the news
[07:08] <daedra> :(
[07:08] <daedra> nothing I do seems to solve it
[07:08] <daedra> it works fine in my other browsers but I prefer Konqi
[07:09] <waylandbill> you could try putting in the ip address directly to make sure konq is actually going to the right place.
[07:10] <daedra> waylandbill: no luck
[07:10] <daedra> pinging 66.180.174.35 works fine
[07:10] <jhutchins_wk> crube: I've never found kaffein easy to get working.  I use mplayer and amarok, and that pretty much covers everything.  Lately I've been using xine because as far as I know it's the only player that works with DVD menus, and I've been messing with those.
[07:10] <jhutchins_wk> daedra: http://66.180.174.35 - are you behind a firewall or on a corporate or school network maybe?
[07:11] <daedra> jhutchins_wk: thats distrowatch
[07:11] <daedra> jhutchins_wk: i'm just behind my router
[07:11] <jhutchins_wk> daedra: I thought you couldn't reach it?
[07:11] <waylandbill> daedra: you could try using browser identfication for it and making it report that it is firefox or something
[07:11] <daedra> not through Konqueror
[07:12] <daedra> I can reach it through everything else
[07:12] <daedra> waylandbill: tried that - no use
[07:12] <waylandbill> daedra: I'm fresh out of ideas then. :-)
[07:12] <jhutchins_wk> Distrowatch comes up fine in konq here.
[07:12] <daedra> ive just accessed it through elinks, firefox, ping, traceroute....
[07:12] <jhutchins_wk> 3.5.5 on edgy.
[07:12] <daedra> all fine
[07:12] <DaSkreech> jhutchins_wk: So why would two machines with the same DNS server give different answers to a dig?
[07:13] <jhutchins_wk> DaSkreech: Cached info?
[07:13] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[07:13] <DaSkreech> cache of Null?
[07:13] <jhutchins_wk> Local caching server?
[07:13] <daedra> jhutchins_wk: thats what I _thought_
[07:13] <DaSkreech> Doesn't seem reasonable
[07:13] <jhutchins_wk> DaSkreech: Yeah, they'll do that.
[07:13] <DaSkreech>  I think there may be a squid
[07:13] <daedra> but thats their problem right?
[07:14] <jhutchins_wk> daedra: No, the problem is with something in your setup.
[07:14] <DaSkreech> Well this one is deeper in the network
[07:14] <jhutchins_wk> daedra: Why do you think you're "denied access" - how about you tell us what actually happens?
[07:14] <DaSkreech> It's a production server though so no rebooting
[07:14] <daedra> ok
[07:14] <daedra> I type http://distowatch.com
[07:15] <jhutchins_wk> DaSkreech: You could check for DNS processes and restart them or flush the routing table.
[07:15] <daedra> browser loads "Forbidden"
[07:15] <jhutchins_wk> daedra: Be specific - in the address bar in konq?
[07:15] <daedra> my screenshot was up there
[07:15] <daedra> yes in the address bar
[07:15] <daedra> I could execute it from console too
[07:16] <jhutchins_wk> Waiting for your screenshot to load...
[07:16] <daedra> http://xs312.xs.to/xs312/07062/distropoo.png
[07:16] <jhutchins_wk> Interesting.
[07:16] <jhutchins_wk> That does appear to be a configuration on their end.
[07:17] <daedra> It seems that way, however, Firefox copes just fine
[07:17] <jhutchins_wk> It's not like they're going to block bt.
[07:17] <daedra> they're not (firefox can do it)
[07:17] <jhutchins_wk> Some difference in how your konq configuration is addressing that page... try distrowatch.com/index.html
[07:17] <daedra> wierd
[07:18] <waylandbill> try http://distrowatch.com/index.php
[07:18] <jhutchins_wk> Or that.
[07:18] <daedra> neither function
[07:18] <jhutchins_wk> daedra: By which you mean "same error".
[07:19] <daedra> yes
[07:19] <jhutchins_wk> try http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20070205#feature
[07:19] <daedra> coincidentally, distowatch.com/poo gives same error lol
[07:19] <daedra> same error
[07:19] <waylandbill> you can't tell me that it's getting forbidden on /  when you put index.php
[07:19] <daedra> no it gets forbidden on index.php
[07:20] <jhutchins_wk> daedra: Any other users set up on this box?
[07:20] <waylandbill> oh.. ok.. i thought same error meant truly the same. :-D
[07:20] <daedra> jhutchins_wk: nope
[07:20] <daedra> waylandbill: sorry about that
[07:20] <jhutchins_wk> Set up a new one, change logins, see what happens.
[07:20] <daedra> :(
[07:20] <jhutchins_wk> (easier than messing with your .kde files.)
[07:20] <daedra> ok
[07:21] <jhutchins_wk> daedra: The theory is that something in your knoqueror configuration is off.
[07:21] <jhutchins_wk> (I ALLWAYS type k-n-o-q - if I dont' catch it, that's what goes out.)
[07:21] <caris_mere> If I have installed a driver for a webcam and it is the wrong one, do I need to deinstall or do something before I try a new one?
[07:22] <daedra> ok brb
[07:25] <daedra> kstartupconfig.
[07:25] <daedra> oops
[07:25] <leiar> what do i install to get amarok to play mp3?
[07:26] <DaSkreech> !mp3 | leiar
[07:26] <ubotu> leiar: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:26] <daedra> well I created a new user, and on login received an error box reading "Could not start kstartupconfig.
[07:26] <harmental> hey guys ...i've noticed that my swap went down (AGAIN) at startup.....i tried swapon -a and i got:
[07:26] <harmental> swapon: /dev/hda6: Operation not permitted
[07:26] <sb9> whats the ntpd for ubuntu ?
[07:26] <nagyv> harmental: try it with sudo
[07:27] <grout_> how do you install themes?
[07:27] <harmental> nagyv: now i get swapon: /dev/hda6: Invalid argument
[07:28] <harmental> this is my fstab: /dev/hda6 none swap sw 0 0
[07:28] <jhutchins_wk> harmental: fsck /dev/hda6
[07:28] <nagyv> harmental: I don't now the swapon command, try man swapon to figure out what should you use
[07:28] <nagyv> now->know
[07:28] <daedra> any ideas?
[07:28] <jhutchins_wk> That's indicating a bad swap partition.
[07:29] <jhutchins_wk> daedra: Sorry, haven't been there with kubuntu yet, shall I play along and see?
[07:29] <harmental> jhutchins_wk: but until last week it worked just fine
[07:29] <jhutchins_wk> I'll try to be good and stick to the GUI, no CLI shortcuts...
[07:29] <vliegje20> evening i have a question about bluetooth
[07:29] <jhutchins_wk> harmental: That's why hardware has a MTBF.  It's the "F" part.
[07:29] <eidolon> hi folks - i'm working on an article describing Ubuntu Gnome vs Kubuntu KDE  setups... and my experience with KDE was that when starting a new user, the first thing the user had on their desktop was a Home folder and a Trashcan icon and maybe a few other icons.  When i first logged in with this user on my Kubuntu install, I got a blank desktop with just the toolbar on the bottom.  is that normal?
[07:30] <daedra> well jhutchins_wk I created a user with useradd then passwd [user] 
[07:30] <daedra> it doesn't seem to like my new user
[07:30] <jhutchins_wk> eidolon: Yeah, I think that's what I got.
[07:30] <jhutchins_wk> daedra: Ah. Did it create the user's home directory?
[07:30] <daedra> no
[07:31] <daedra> (I am teh noob)
[07:31] <vliegje20> i installed with wine BlueSoleil. It starts and works but it doesnt recognize my bluetooth usb stick how can i make contact with it?
[07:31] <harmental> jhutchins_wk: ok.....so failures are fine with me as long as i can repair them...
[07:31] <harmental> any ideas?
[07:32] <jhutchins_wk> daedra: Ok, adduser is _supposed_ to create the homedir by default, but some distros mess with that.
[07:32] <DaSkreech> eidolon: As far as I know it's blank
[07:32] <daedra> jhutchins_wk: well this is just kubuntu 6.06.1
[07:32] <eidolon> huh.  okay.  that's yucky :)
[07:33] <daedra> should I create it manually, and if so, what di I do?
[07:33] <jhutchins_wk> daedra: Er, useradd needs -d to create the home dir, just userdel, useradd -d
[07:33] <daedra> ok thanks
[07:33] <jhutchins_wk> daedra: adduser defaults to creating it.
[07:33] <jhutchins_wk> harmental: fsck /dev/hda6
[07:34] <daedra> "invalid home directory `test'"
[07:34] <jhutchins_wk> harmental: You may end up having to remove and recreate the swap partition with fdisk, or use qparted.
[07:34] <jhutchins_wk> daedra: useradd -d <user>?
[07:34] <harmental> jhutchins_wk: i get
[07:34] <harmental> fsck: fsck.swap: not found
[07:34] <harmental> fsck: Error 2 while executing fsck.swap for /dev/hda6
[07:35] <daedra> jhutchins_wk: yep I did that
[07:35] <jhutchins_wk> heh.
[07:35] <jhutchins_wk> daedra: Hmm.
[07:35] <harmental> i'm trying mkswap now....
[07:35] <Aattila> does anybody know how to install sun-java5-bin?
[07:35] <jhutchins_wk> daedra: I get the same thing.  I suspect something's not set up right.
[07:36] <nagyv> Aattila: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[07:36] <jhutchins_wk> daedra: do "adduser test"
[07:36] <daedra> yeah that works, but as I said before, no home dir is created
[07:37] <daedra> oh! it worked
[07:37] <daedra> haha
[07:37] <daedra> ok back to the task at hand
[07:37] <jhutchins_wk> It's even verbose.
[07:37] <daedra> Konqi
[07:38] <DaSkreech> !java | Aattila
[07:38] <ubotu> Aattila: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[07:38] <harmental> jhutchins_wk: it worked....first i used mkswap , then swapon -a
[07:38] <harmental> i hope i wont have to do that et every startup.....
[07:39] <jhutchins_wk> harmental: Shouldn't.
[07:39] <harmental> jhutchins_wk: thx anyway....
[07:39] <jhutchins_wk> harmental: You might keep an eye on the log files to make sure it's not failing.
[07:39] <harmental> log files?
[07:39] <jhutchins_wk> Don't know why fsck.swap isn't available.
[07:39] <harmental> where are thos?
[07:40] <jhutchins_wk> use the demesg command, and or /var/log/messages
[07:40] <jhutchins_wk> (Kubuntu may use some different files in /var/log, but the important stuff should be there.)
[07:40] <GalaZ> !paste
[07:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:40] <daedra_> well the new user loaded correctly, and Konqueror loads distrowatch.com correctly
[07:40] <daedra_> so I suppose the problem is somewhere within Konqis configuration
[07:41] <|kosmo|> !mount
[07:41] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:41] <jhutchins_wk> daedra_: Inescabable.
[07:41] <|kosmo|> !diskmounter
[07:41] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[07:41] <|kosmo|> !fstab
[07:41] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[07:41] <daedra_> damn
[07:42] <jhutchins_wk> daedra_: So you can try to fix it with the settings menu, or just clean it out of .kde (if you can figure what files are involved).
[07:42] <daedra_> well I'm not up for kde config
[07:42] <daedra_> settings won't be detailed enough
[07:42] <daedra_> I'll just settle for Firefox
[07:43] <daedra_> I've left the settings of Konqi pretty intact, not sure how this happened
[07:44] <|kosmo|> !mount
[07:44] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:44] <|kosmo|> !diskmounter
[07:44] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[07:45] <daedra_> grr
[07:45] <daedra_> jhutchins_wk: thanks
[07:47] <GillesM> I have a problem since an update : I can log into kdm but just after I don't have any keyboard in KDE any idea ?
[07:48] <sb9> does anyone know, whether openntpd requires an additional ntpdate to sync with a timeserver ?
[07:49] <goodthing> hey guys, beryl not working kwin, is that a faillure in my side or is that more or less normal?
[07:49] <jhutchins_wk> daedra: It's possible something got corruped by a completely different process.
[07:49] <sb9> i.e. to match not just sync the time
[07:50] <jhutchins_wk> sb9: If you're off by quite a bit, it's a good idea to do an ntpdate first, then run the daemon.
[07:51] <jhutchins_wk> goodthing: Normal.
[07:58] <goodthing> thanks jhutchins_wk, now i can chillout :)
[07:58] <goodthing> (and know i did something right for the first time this day)
[08:00] <crazy_penguin> Hi all!
[08:05] <Bsims> Any one know how to get video on an ipod I can transfer the video but it doesn't show up as video on the idpod
[08:06] <Bsims> I got amarok to transfer video but it doesn't show up on the menus anywhere
[08:07] <caris_mere> Need a little help with a Logitech QuickCam Chat
[08:09] <Lam_> Bsims, what's the extension on the file?
[08:10] <Bsims> Lam_: .mp4
[08:10] <Bsims> let me guess I need m4v
[08:10] <Lam_> Bsims: actually, mp4 is the correct format, but i'm not sure if the Ipod Video will support anything other than an h.264 encoded mp4 file
[08:11] <Lam_> Bsims: i haven't a clue then. i myself don't own the ipod video yet :(
[08:11] <shane__> Hi all.  Hey, I'm new at this whole linux thing, and I'm trying to download the linux version of real player, but I can't figure out how to install it. any help?
[08:11] <Bsims> Lam_: I don't get the meta data on the file
[08:12] <erhanr> caris_mere: did you read  http://qce-ga.sourceforge.net/  ?
[08:12] <caris_mere> erhanr: nope, might be the only thing I haven't read lol
[08:13] <Lam_> shane__: $ sudo apt-get install realplay
[08:14] <caris_mere> erhanr: My webcam isn't listed in that group
[08:14] <shane__> do I have to specify the file location?
[08:14] <Lam_> shane__: apt will handle all installation parameters since it was designed for the ease of installation
[08:14] <shane__> I'll give it a shot, thanks
[08:15] <julien> helllo, i want to go to ubuntu.fr chat
[08:15] <julien> how can i do?
[08:15] <erhanr> sorry then
[08:15] <HymnToLife> julien, /join #ubuntu-fr
[08:15] <ubuntu> olas
[08:15] <caris_mere> erhanr: Do you know why I would say that it can't find my webcam?
[08:16] <erhanr> hmm .
[08:16] <julien> thank you Hymntolife
[08:16] <lA> olasssssssssss
[08:17] <erhanr> caris_mere: what is your webcam's whole name ? and what writes when you type lsusb when you plug webcam ?
[08:19] <ubuntu> plz how can i use dd command to backup my disks?
[08:19] <caris_mere> erhanr: it is a Logitech QuickCam Chat, and lsusb states 046d:092e Logitech, Inc.
[08:19] <ubuntu> ./
[08:20] <shane__> do I just type that into a terminal window or what?
[08:20] <ubuntu> i know but
[08:21] <ubuntu> lastly i was doin it it made it just copied my root folder to home the whole partition
[08:21] <ubuntu> and was large 14 gb
[08:21] <shane__> or is there somewhere in apt that I'm supposed to open that I'm missing?
[08:21] <ubuntu> i want only it as iso and be as big as space used on partiotion of 14 gb
[08:21] <ubuntu> can anyone help me plx?
[08:23] <goodthing> ubuntu: i would use "cp -va ./folder-to-backup /path/to/destination/."
[08:23] <Rumo_> dd -if /dev/hda5 of=backup
[08:23] <Rumo_> something like that
[08:24] <ubuntu> backup
[08:24] <ubuntu> bah
[08:24] <Rumo_> what do you want ubuntu?
[08:25] <goodthing> ubuntu: not that my command does not follow symlinks, IIRC
[08:25] <goodthing> *note
[08:25] <Rumo_> backup is just a name you can use xyz.abc
[08:25] <ubuntu> forgot to write szmbol so bot can answer me i am not used to using english kezboard
[08:25] <Rumo_> instead
[08:25] <ubuntu> i know
[08:25] <caris_mere> erhanr:  Do you have anthing?  Otherwise I am calling it a night.  Thanks for you help
[08:26] <erhanr> well  better is read it page
[08:26] <hyper_ch> anyone uses virtualbox in here?
[08:26] <ubuntu> Rumo_:  ubuntu webpage says this dd -if /dev/hda1 > partitionimage.dd
[08:27] <ubuntu> but aint of missing there?
[08:27] <Rumo_> no everything should be fine
[08:27] <ubuntu> but it will backup hda1 right?
[08:28] <Rumo_> i am using -of instead of >, but should work, too
[08:28] <Rumo_> yes
[08:28] <Rumo_> to the file specified by -of
[08:28] <Rumo_> you can copy it back with dd -if partionimage -of /dev/hda1
[08:28] <Rumo_> simple as that
[08:28] <ubuntu> so if i have my root disk as hdb3
[08:28] <ubuntu> i will write
[08:29] <ubuntu> dd -if /dev/hdb3 -of /dev/hdb4/home/etc
[08:29] <ubuntu> hdb4 is home and hdb3 root
[08:29] <ubuntu> well this will copy
[08:30] <Rumo_> hmm, don't know if it works like that
[08:30] <ubuntu> so dd -if /dev/hdb3 -of backup.iso
[08:30] <ubuntu> this is correct?
[08:30] <Rumo_> would use a mounted partion
[08:30] <Rumo_> yes that should work
[08:30] <ubuntu> well but where it will create that iso file?
[08:31] <Rumo_> in your current directory
[08:31] <ubuntu> i am on live cd
[08:31] <ubuntu> read that cant do dd from active disk
[08:31] <Rumo_> you can mount a partion and put it there
[08:31] <ubuntu> or when apps or OS is running frm it
[08:31] <ubuntu> Rumo_: u have few mins for me<
[08:31] <ubuntu> ?
[08:32] <Rumo_> you can't copy a mounted partition but you can copy a partition to a mounted partition
[08:32] <Rumo_> yes
[08:32] <Rumo_> inside the directory tree
[08:32] <shane__> I'm still haveing trouble installing realplayer, I don't know how to use apt very well I guess.
[08:32] <shane__> where do I type the command $ sudo apt-get install realplay
[08:32] <BluesKaj> err why realplayer...there are better ones
[08:32] <ubuntu> Rumo_: so i will tell u i  have hdb3 as root and hdb4 as home
[08:33] <shane__> cause I'm new and don't know any better
[08:33] <Rumo_> ok
[08:33] <shane__> what else is there?
[08:33] <h3sp4wn> !commercial
[08:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about commercial - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:33] <h3sp4wn> realplay is in the canocial commercial repositories
[08:33] <ubuntu> if i make iso file of hdb3 to hdb4 how large it will be as big as whole partition?
[08:33] <h3sp4wn> you would need to enable them (probably there is a factoid
[08:34] <Rumo_> ubuntu: simple: the size of the partition
[08:34] <h3sp4wn> ubuntu: iso is for cd's not linux partitions
[08:34] <ubuntu> lets say i have 10 gb root then  iso  will  have 10 gb?
[08:34] <Rumo_> yes
[08:34] <ubuntu> ah
[08:34] <Rumo_> dd makes a bitwise copy of a partition
[08:34] <ubuntu> is there any command that can only backup files and not also free space?
[08:35] <Rumo_> sure
[08:35] <Rumo_> you can use tar for example
[08:35] <ubuntu> so  if i use tar
[08:35] <ubuntu> the end file will  be like 2 GB and not 10 GB?
[08:35] <Rumo_> depends
[08:36] <Rumo_> may well be
[08:36] <True_Friend> I want to install java plugin for swiftfox 2.1 on kubuntu edgy i have java 6 plz guide me to install plugin manually
[08:36] <ubuntu> Rumo_: so i use tar is best for this?
[08:37] <Rumo_> i don't know if it is best for it
[08:37] <Rumo_> the easiest method is dd - but it needs lots of space
[08:37] <ubuntu> well my   home folder is 100 GB
[08:37] <ubuntu> :D
[08:38] <goodthing> pics of 8K for question purposes are allowed here right?
[08:38] <Rumo_> i would use dd
[08:38] <ubuntu> well but i want only files backup not free space :/
[08:38] <hatta> dd will copy the partition bit for bit, which isn't what he wants
[08:38] <hatta> tar will archive all your files
[08:39] <ubuntu> and sbackup suite
[08:39] <ubuntu> or wat is that
[08:39] <hatta> but it will be up to you to recreate your partitions in the event of a disaster
[08:39] <ubuntu> is also for kubuntu ?
[08:39] <Rumo_> ubuntu: don't know many backup tools
[08:39] <Rumo_> i
[08:39] <h3sp4wn> dd if=/dev/hda conv=sync,noerror bs=64k | gzip -c (you can do that)
[08:39] <Rumo_> i'm only using tar -cvzf, tar -cvjf and dd
[08:39] <ubuntu> Rumo_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/SimpleBackupSuite
[08:40] <Rumo_> i think h3sp4wn as the answer for you
[08:40] <Rumo_> it will take quite some time, though
[08:40] <ubuntu> so it will only backup files or whole partition?
[08:41] <Rumo_> it will backup the whole partition and compress the image
[08:41] <h3sp4wn> compress it to stdout though - gzip -c > image.gz to save to a file
[08:42] <goodthing> the structure of this setting here is weird to me -> http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/7417/foo1st9.png
[08:42] <Rumo_> i don't speak dutch ;-)
[08:42] <goodthing> it should tell me something different than the x, i assume
[08:42] <goodthing> no it's not about the text
[08:43] <ubuntu> so i just use DD and then compress with gzip right?
[08:43] <Rumo_> yeah, you can zip it afterwards too
[08:43] <ubuntu> thx i wil try
[08:44] <h3sp4wn> there is dump as well
[08:44] <goodthing> i mean the lines inside the checkbox, i have no clue about that
[08:45] <Rumo_> or dd_rescue if the partition is broken - saved my life yesterday ;-)
[08:45] <ubuntu> :D
[08:45] <Rumo_> don't know either, goodthing
[08:45] <goodthing> :)
[08:45] <DaSkreech> jhutchins: Thanks
[08:47] <Rumo_> i think it's just because it's a text setting, goodthing
[08:47] <ubuntu> well Rumo_ wat is better to use GUI or try a bit with terminal?
[08:48] <Rumo_> ubuntu: i would use the terminal
[08:48] <Rumo_> but it's your choice
[08:48] <Rumo_> i don't trust GUIs when it comes to backups
[08:49] <h3sp4wn> I have only used dd to clone when I was using identical sized disks
[08:51] <ubuntu> Rumo_: is it possible to backup through dd/tar also NTFS partitions?
[08:51] <Rumo_> sure
[08:51] <Rumo_> it copies every single bit so it does not depend on the partition type
[08:51] <Rumo_> correct me if i'm wrong...
[08:52] <h3sp4wn> I only know for certain it works when the partition size is the same
[08:53] <h3sp4wn> (I always copied the bootsector also though)
[08:53] <h3sp4wn> disk size sorry
[08:53] <Rumo_> yeah, if you copy it to another partition
[08:53] <Rumo_> but if you copy it to a file, it's ok, and it does not depend on disk size afaik
[08:54] <Rumo_> i mirrored my ubuntu installation to another partition on the same disk to install feisty
[08:54] <h3sp4wn> so if you do dd if=/dev/hda5 of=backup.img then that is ok (and you can just put it back with dd also ?)
[08:55] <h3sp4wn> because the partition table is not involved
[08:55] <ubuntu> Rumo_: wat does this mean plz tar -cvpzf /backup.tgz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys /?
[08:55] <Rumo_> yes h3sp4wn
[08:55] <ubuntu> that it wont backup lost+found mnt and sys?
[08:55] <ubuntu> and where do i set location of end tar?
[08:56] <h3sp4wn> proc and sys you don't want to back up - mnt not either you probably don't want to backup /media either
[08:56] <GalaZ> hi guys.. have anyone the ATI?
[08:56] <ubuntu> yeah but how can i set end destination of that file?
[08:56] <rcrook> When doing a full backup remember to be in single user mode.
[08:57] <Rumo_> ubuntu -c create -v verify -p don't know yet -z zip -f file -exclude exclude directory  and finally /: whole directory tree
[08:57] <Rumo_> you should --exclude=/home, too
[08:57] <ubuntu> ah
[08:57] <Rumo_> -p is same permissions
[08:57] <Rumo_> ok
[08:57] <GalaZ> !ati
[08:57] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:58] <ubuntu> so i am not retarted then after i type tar -cvpzf /backup.tgz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys / for example  i need to wrrite where i want the backup to be saved?
[08:58] <Rumo_> yes ubuntu
[08:59] <ubuntu> and Rumo_ that tar i should do from livecd or installed linux?
[08:59] <Rumo_> you should use /backup.tgz because otherwise you would not need to exclude it
[08:59] <ubuntu> kk
[08:59] <Rumo_> doesn't matter
[08:59] <ubuntu> i give it a try
[08:59] <ubuntu> need to go now will be back in few mins
[09:01] <raeez> I Need help with my ATI card before I go crazy!!!!!!!! :(
[09:02] <ubuntu> hi
[09:02] <raeez> Has anybody here installed the propriety ati drivers?
[09:02] <raeez> and got 3d accelleration to work (and opengl without shearing) ?
[09:02] <Tm_T> Sure, many of us.
[09:02] <Tm_T> !ati
[09:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:02] <ubuntu> anywhere speak spanish
[09:03] <Tm_T> Checked already?
[09:03] <Tm_T> !es
[09:03] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:03] <ubuntu> gracias ubotu
[09:03] <raeez> thanks TmT i havent tried that link out yet
[09:03] <raeez> thanks Tm_T i havent tried that link out yet
[09:04] <ubuntu> soy nuevo conoces algun canal en espaol ubotu
[09:04] <ubuntu> enviamelo porfa
[09:05] <compgood> anyone know anything about using pipes? (not pipes in the console, but pipes using the pipe() function for ipc)
[09:05] <GalaZ> hi guys.. have anyone the ATI?
[09:05] <LjL> !es | ubuntu
[09:05] <ubotu> ubuntu: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:05] <GalaZ> !it | kubuntu
[09:05] <ubotu> kubuntu: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:05] <ubuntu> gracias muy amable,
[09:10] <GalaZ> hi guys.. have anyone the ATI?
[09:11] <GalaZ> can anyone help me to install an ATI Graphic Card?
[09:11] <pointy> quick question: I should be able to connect to a sftp server with fish://<ip address>:<port> right?
[09:13] <Rumo_> yes pointy
[09:15] <h3sp4wn> sshfs or shfs is as nice though
[09:16] <Lam_> i popped in a cd into my drive and it stalled during mounting or something, and when i tried to eject it just now, the green light blinks repeatedly. is there a way to force cancel the mount via terminal?'
[09:16] <erhanr> !ati  GalaZ
[09:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ati  galaz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:16] <erhanr> !ati
[09:16] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:17] <pointy> thx
[09:17] <Lam_> !umount
[09:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about umount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:19] <GalaZ> erhanr: this guide is for ubuntu or kubuntu?
[09:19] <erhanr> Galaz must be same
[09:25] <GalaZ> g
[09:25] <GalaZ> ala@Gala-Desktop:~$ fglrxinfo
[09:25] <GalaZ> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[09:25] <GalaZ> OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc.
[09:25] <GalaZ> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R300 20060815 AGP 1x TCL
[09:25] <GalaZ> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.3 Mesa 6.5.1)
[09:26] <h3sp4wn> Why do you want fglrx ? you won't have aiglx then
[09:26] <h3sp4wn> r300 is working by the looks of it
[09:26] <h3sp4wn> (just get rid of fglrx to remove the diverts and it will be fine)
[09:27] <GalaZ> h3sp4wn: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[09:27] <GalaZ> is in the guide :|
[09:28] <h3sp4wn> You only need fglrx if the other drivers are not working well enough for you
[09:28] <GalaZ> and so what command i need to do for install?
[09:29] <h3sp4wn> You need to install fglrx possibly - what do you want fglrx for ?
[09:29] <dan_> Qualcuno ha installato limewire?
[09:30] <h3sp4wn> uninstall fglrx sorry
[09:30] <Little_Eagle> !ati
[09:30] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:30] <Little_Eagle> !it
[09:30] <h3sp4wn> That is a stupid factoid
[09:30] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:30] <h3sp4wn> and doesn't take any account of the fact that fglrx is rarely necessary <=X850
[09:30] <dan_> did anyone install limewire? (is it right?)
[09:31] <Little_Eagle> h3sp4w3:  Are we going to debate the need for real ATI drivers?
[09:31] <GalaZ> h3sp4wn: how can i disinstal fglrx?
[09:31] <h3sp4wn> GalaZ: sudo aptitude purge fglrx~i
[09:32] <h3sp4wn> Little_Eagle: real ? anything less than <=X850 works fine with r300
[09:32] <GalaZ> h3sp4wn
[09:32] <GalaZ> and now?
[09:32] <GalaZ> for my drivers ati what i need to do?
[09:33] <h3sp4wn> GalaZ: grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:33] <h3sp4wn> GalaZ: please don't pm me
[09:33] <GalaZ> grep?
[09:34] <h3sp4wn> open a terminal
[09:34] <GalaZ> gala@Gala-Desktop:~$ grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:34] <GalaZ>         Driver      "kbd"
[09:34] <GalaZ>         Driver      "mouse"
[09:34] <GalaZ>         Driver      "wacom"
[09:34] <GalaZ>         Driver      "wacom"
[09:34] <GalaZ>         Driver      "wacom"
[09:34] <GalaZ>         Option      "VendorName" "ATI Proprietary Driver"
[09:34] <GalaZ>         Driver      "ati"
[09:34] <GalaZ>         Driver      "fglrx"
[09:34] <GalaZ> sorry wrong
[09:34] <GalaZ> !paste
[09:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:35] <GalaZ> h3sp4wn: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4459/
[09:35] <h3sp4wn> GalaZ: probably easier to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:35] <Little_Eagle> It looks to me like he's got both.
[09:36] <h3sp4wn> It does to me also
[09:36] <h3sp4wn> if you really want fglrx you can use kano's install script
[09:37] <GalaZ> h3sp4wn i need a stuff for work my games... with wine
[09:37] <raeez> @apt-fix
[09:37] <raeez> !apt-fix
[09:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:37] <raeez> !aptfix
[09:37] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[09:37] <h3sp4wn> GalaZ: buy nvidia then
[09:38] <h3sp4wn> GalaZ: wget -Nc -O/usr/local/bin/install-fglrx-debian.sh http://kanotix.com/files/install-fglrx-debian.sh
[09:38] <h3sp4wn> GalaZ: actually first run sudo -i
[09:38] <kosmo_> hi somone can help me to mount my new hardisk
[09:38] <kosmo_> ?
[09:38] <h3sp4wn> GalaZ: chmod 755 /usr/local/bin/install-fglrx-debian.sh
[09:38] <raeez> Does everybody have poor performance on an ati card?
[09:38] <h3sp4wn> GalaZ: install-fglrx-debian.sh
[09:39] <h3sp4wn> raeez: ati's driver suck other than the r200 cards that are very old
[09:39] <kosmo_> ok i add new hardisk in the /dev/hdb how i can mount it
[09:39] <kosmo_> ?
[09:39] <raeez> I have an ATI X1900XTX :(
[09:39] <h3sp4wn> is it formatted?
[09:39] <jonathan__> anyone here know how to get broadcom wireless cards working?  I'm totally new to this, so go slow
[09:39] <kosmo_> yes
[09:39] <kosmo_> h3sp4wn
[09:39] <hatta> don't worry jonathan__ we'll be gentle since it's your first time
[09:39] <kosmo_> i format it in the install
[09:39] <raeez> how are the opensource drivers compared to the prop drivers?
[09:39] <BluesKaj> ati cards can work on some stuff depending on the drivers
[09:39] <jonathan__> thanks
[09:39] <timster> Whats the best logon screen manager?
[09:39] <kosmo_> i want to mount it but it dont in the /etc/fstab
[09:39] <kosmo_> file
[09:40] <h3sp4wn> raeez: good for playing games in windows though (my brother has an X1950XTX)
[09:40] <h3sp4wn> decent picture quality
[09:40] <raeez> h3sp4wn my X1900XTX is killer in windows but it sux in linux
[09:40] <GalaZ> i've ATI Radeon 9800 pRo 256mb
[09:41] <h3sp4wn> I have used an ati radeon 9800pro with the free drivers fine
[09:41] <h3sp4wn> also with fglrx
[09:41] <kosmo_> h3sp4wn
[09:41] <kosmo_> so you know how to help me
[09:41] <timster> Whats the best kdm theme manager?
[09:41] <kosmo_> ?
[09:41] <Little_Eagle> kosmo_: mkdir /whatever  && mount -t auto /dev/hdb1 /whatever
[09:41] <BluesKaj> raeez, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-c966b2cb7c82944d6883f27a2896725db3b90a3a
[09:41] <GalaZ> root@Gala-Desktop:~# chmod 755 /usr/local/bin/install-fglrx-debian.sh
[09:41] <GalaZ> root@Gala-Desktop:~# install-fglrx-debian.sh
[09:41] <GalaZ> Error: No KANOTIX found. Do not ask for support!
[09:41] <GalaZ> Error: Can`t be run within X! Use a text console (ALT-CTRL-F1)
[09:41] <GalaZ> root@Gala-Desktop:~#
[09:42] <Little_Eagle> replace auto with whatever type (ext3 etc) it is.
[09:42] <jonathan__> I found a program called ndiswrapper, but I have no idea how to use it to make the drivers work on the wireless card
[09:42] <Little_Eagle> and use sudo first
[09:42] <h3sp4wn> GalaZ: run it from text console
[09:42] <h3sp4wn> GalaZ: alt + ctrl + f1
[09:42] <raeez> GalaZ thanks but ive done that
[09:42] <raeez> I still get choppy video playing in xine,mplayer and any opengl situation
[09:43] <h3sp4wn> GalaZ: (you will need to run sudo -i there)
[09:43] <kosmo_> kosmo@kosmo-pc:/media$ sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb1 /dev/hdb1
[09:43] <kosmo_> mount: /dev/hdb1 is not a block device
[09:43] <GalaZ> now still downloading a stuff ati
[09:44] <kosmo_> 
[09:44] <kosmo_> eagle
[09:44] <kosmo_> what i need to do
[09:44] <h3sp4wn> GalaZ: Is it running in the text console now ?
[09:44] <GalaZ> no
[09:44] <jonathan__> anyone kow how to make broadcom wireless cards work?
[09:44] <GalaZ> only in alt+ctrl+1
[09:44] <Little_Eagle> kosmo_: then it isn't hdb1.  You sure it's hdb and not hbc?
[09:44] <kosmo_> yes
[09:44] <h3sp4wn> GalaZ: that is what I ment (ctrl alt f1)
[09:44] <kosmo_> i am sure
[09:45] <kosmo_> how i can check it
[09:45] <kosmo_> ?
[09:45] <h3sp4wn> GalaZ: at some point it will kill and restart X (and after that the drivers should be working right)
[09:45] <Little_Eagle> well, your system isn't seeing it.
[09:45] <GalaZ> when download is finished what i need to do?
[09:45] <kosmo_> i am sure that is a hdb
[09:45] <h3sp4wn> sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb
[09:46] <h3sp4wn> GalaZ: Nothing it takes care of fixing xorg.conf etc
[09:46] <kosmo_> !pastebin
[09:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:46] <h3sp4wn> GalaZ: (and if it doesn't it should
[09:46] <kosmo_> sec i show you in the pastebin
[09:46] <Little_Eagle> please
[09:47] <kosmo_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4463/
[09:47] <kosmo_> look
[09:47] <kosmo_> Little_Eagle:
[09:47] <Little_Eagle> aha,  same command as above but hdb3 insead of hdb1
[09:47] <kosmo_> oooo
[09:47] <kosmo_> right
[09:50] <hazard> Anyone know of any linux software that will allow for control of sony ACPI fan controllers?
[09:51] <Little_Eagle> I'm suprised kano's script would work.  Know what he's doing now that kanotix is dead.  Is he going to help with Sidux?
[09:52] <crube> I've been using Linux for a while now, and I thought of a couple of things: Is there a defragmentation tool, or do I even need one? And do I ever need to run a virus scan, and is there a good program for that?
[09:52] <h3sp4wn> Little_Eagle: he fixed it for ubuntu quite a while ago
[09:52] <uhahaha> selam .... Trk varm..?
[09:52] <h3sp4wn> Little_Eagle: next kanotix will be based on feisty I think
[09:52] <Little_Eagle> !tk
[09:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:52] <hazard> crube: no, and unlikely.
[09:53] <uhahaha> bir soru soracam bu kubuntu ilee...
[09:53] <crube> hazard: alright thanks
[09:53] <nagyv> !tr
[09:53] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[09:53] <nagyv> !tr | uhahaha
[09:53] <ubotu> uhahaha: please see above
[09:53] <uhahaha> yaa ben ikinci hardiski tantamadm.. giremiyorum ikinci hardiskin iine... nasl yapabilirm yardm edebilecek varm acaba
[09:53] <jhutchins> Who was it who was looking to put video on his iPod?
[09:54] <Little_Eagle> TR? Shame on me.
[09:54] <jhutchins> http://handbrake.m0k.org/
[09:54] <nagyv> :)
[09:54] <Lars_G> Riddell: Are you around sire?
[09:54] <ubuntu> !sk
[09:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:55] <nagyv> ubuntu: it can happen that there is no slovakian ubuntu local community
[09:55] <ubuntu> nagyv:  u from svk?
[09:55] <nagyv> ubuntu: Hungary :)
[09:55] <ubuntu> :D
[09:56] <Lars_G> I guess he's not around but I'll wait so I can be a prick to him :)
[09:56] <ubuntu> hmm if i wanna backup my root forlder with tar should i exclude /dev?
[09:57] <Lars_G> ubuntu: A simpler way would be to tell it to keep to your original device (not traverse to other mounts).
[09:57] <Lars_G> ubuntu: Thought, you might want to backup dev's structure (but not file contents :))
[09:57] <ubuntu> Lars_G:  so u think i shhould back my root folder on my root folder? :)
[09:58] <ubuntu> Lars_G:  so do i need to backup /dev and its files or no?
[09:59] <Lars_G> ubuntu: You shouldn't listen to me on backups. sorry man
[09:59] <nagyv> ubuntu: you can also make an image file from your root partition, in this case it is much easier to put it back
[10:00] <ubuntu> with dd?
[10:00] <nagyv> no, with partimage
[10:00] <Alzi2> How to get Konqueror's fonts in webpages to get bigger? anyone?
[10:00] <ubuntu> hmm wanna use either dd, tar or anything else
[10:00] <hatta> put your face closer to the screen
[10:00] <ubuntu> wanna see power of shell :p
[10:00] <nagyv> but for this the partition has to be unmounted, so it is a good idea to use a live CD, that has partimage installed -> Knoppix
[10:00] <ubuntu> i have livecd ubuntu :S
[10:00] <ubuntu> kubuntu
[10:01] <nagyv> Alzi2: you can set it under the settings, but probably Ctrl + will also work
[10:02] <Little_Eagle> Alzi2: Tools -> Configure Konquerer click Appearance.  ctrl+ for just that page.
[10:02] <Alzi2> Little_Eagle: I tried that one but that didn't help.
[10:02] <nagyv> ubuntu: Knoppix is also a KDE based Live CD, give it a try
[10:02] <Little_Eagle> Alzi2: Which website?  Paste link.
[10:03] <Alzi2> Little_Eagle: Every. Or do i have to restart Konq?
[10:03] <ubuntu> nagyv:  hmm who cares i will try with tar was talking with guys  here  2 hours ago
[10:03] <Alzi2> Little_Eagle: I tried restarting. Didn 't help, either.
[10:03] <Little_Eagle> msg Alzi2 Shouldn't have to restart.
[10:04] <nagyv> Alzi2: you can also do it if you have a mouse wheel, Ctrl+wheel up
[10:04] <Little_Eagle> one little slash!
[10:04] <Azzco> Hi, I've messed up a bit here. I acctidenticly made kate the standar app to read html.
[10:04] <Little_Eagle> I am going to stop sending private messages.  I have no secrets.
[10:04] <nagyv> Azzco: not a bed idea! :)
[10:04] <Alzi2> nagyv: That's temporary
[10:04] <nagyv> bad
[10:04] <nagyv> Alzi2: that's true :)
[10:04] <kosmo_> !pastebin
[10:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:04] <Alzi2> Little_Eagle: You mean "character size" right?
[10:05] <Little_Eagle> Alzi2: Same problem with firefox?
[10:05] <Alzi2> nagyv: Yeah, not a bed idea! just a little sleepy and comfy! but not bed!
[10:05] <Alzi2> Little_Eagle: No.
[10:05] <Azzco> I haven't got a clue on how to switch back so I can browse the web in konqueror..
[10:05] <kosmo_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4467/
[10:05] <kosmo_> somone
[10:05] <kosmo_> can tell me what i need to do
[10:05] <Alzi2> Little_Eagle: Ctrl+ works though
[10:05] <kosmo_> do fix that error
[10:05] <Alzi2> Little_Eagle: So does mousewheel up
[10:05] <kosmo_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4467/
[10:06] <eisma> i just installed xemacs through synaptic, how do i get it on my applications menu?
[10:06] <Little_Eagle> Should be under settings, configure, appearence.  Font size.
[10:06] <Newuser> Umm, I am having trouble trying to install a program called SuperKaramba
[10:07] <Azzco> Newuser: What is the problem?
[10:07] <Alzi2> Little_Eagle: YES I GOT IT FIXED! it was under fonts.
[10:07] <nagyv> eisma: it can happen that you have to log out/log in
[10:07] <ubuntu> is /sys important for backup? :S
[10:07] <Alzi2> Little_Eagle: The small letters were the only reason i was using Opera
[10:07] <eisma> nagyv: that's it?
[10:07] <nagyv> eisma: yes, what?
[10:07] <Little_Eagle> I like opera, but I don't like that it isn't open.
[10:08] <eisma> nagyv that's all i have to do for xemacs to show up on my applications menu, is to log out then in?
[10:08] <h3sp4wn> Its good that opera static can run on amd64
[10:08] <nagyv> eisma: yes
[10:08] <Alzi2> It runs on my wii.
[10:08] <ubuntu>  /sys is important for backup someone plz
[10:08] <kosmo_> [23:05]  <kosmo_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4467/
[10:08] <kosmo_> [23:05]  <kosmo_> somone
[10:08] <kosmo_> [23:05]  <kosmo_> can tell me what i need to do
[10:08] <d03boy> anyone know how I connect to a VPN via kubuntu?
[10:08] <kosmo_> to fix that error
[10:08] <Little_Eagle> I was shocked when I clicked on a torrent and opera leeched without opening anything else.
[10:09] <h3sp4wn> d03boy: what type of vpn ?
[10:09] <Newuser> Well, I cant install it (I am used to the windows *.exe installation) and I downloaded the package itself. I tried to use Synaptic Package manager and its not listed.
[10:09] <d03boy> h3sp4wn, no clue...
[10:09] <h3sp4wn> there is loads of types
[10:09] <d03boy> how do I check? its my school's vpn
[10:09] <h3sp4wn> ask them ?
[10:09] <Azzco> Newuser: have you checked the ubuntu wiki?
[10:09] <Alzi2> How to set the engine Kaffeine uses?
[10:10] <Alzi2> It does not list mplayer. Only the embedded mplayer plugin in konqueror.
[10:10] <Azzco> You might need to edit the repositorys
[10:10] <h3sp4wn> !info kvpnc
[10:10] <ubotu> kvpnc: vpn clients frontend for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.5.1-1 (edgy), package size 1374 kB, installed size 3924 kB
[10:10] <Little_Eagle> kosmo_: try auto instead of ext3.  But what did you format it as?
[10:10] <Newuser> Well, I tried that and I dont know how to get it to fetch the file itself
[10:10] <kosmo_> ext3
[10:10] <h3sp4wn> maybe try that - maybe you need ipsec or maybe openvpn or maybe some other type of vpn
[10:11] <Alzi2> How to set the engine Kaffeine uses?
[10:11] <Alzi2> It does not list mplayer. Only the embedded mplayer plugin in konqueror.
[10:11] <h3sp4wn> kaffeine can only use xine I think not mplayer
[10:11] <Little_Eagle> I would suggest you format it again if you can't mount it and you KNOW that it's ext3.
[10:11] <Alzi2> it should be able to...
[10:12] <Little_Eagle> of course that would mean you loose anything there.
[10:12] <Little_Eagle> damn I can't type.
[10:12] <Little_Eagle> lose.
[10:12] <fernando> someone know the repository for the nvidia legacy drivers??
[10:12] <Alzi2> h3sp4wn: it should be able to..
[10:12] <kosmo_> eagle
[10:13] <kosmo_> i dont format it as type
[10:13] <kosmo_> in cfdisk
[10:13] <kosmo_> its type linux
[10:13] <Azzco> Newuser: I see it in adept...
[10:13] <Newuser> It keeps telling me that the file has moved permanately when I tried that
[10:13] <eisma> nagyv i even rebooted my machine, and it didn't show up anywhere
[10:14] <eisma> i get this message when i try to compile c++
[10:14] <eisma> g++ hw1.cpp -o hw1
[10:14] <eisma> /bin/bash: g++: command not foun
[10:14] <eisma> how do i fix this?
[10:14] <nagyv> eisma: it's strange, as far as i know it should show up, but it can happen that you will have to wait a bit. If you are impatient, then you can add it to the desired location with kmenuedit
[10:15] <nagyv> eisma: you have to install the build-essential(s) package
[10:15] <nagyv> !build-essentials | eisma
[10:15] <ubotu> eisma: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:15] <fernando> someone know the repository for the nvidia legacy drivers??
[10:15] <nagyv> !nvidia | fernando
[10:15] <ubotu> fernando: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:15] <ubuntu> guys if i want to backup do hdb4 and it is not mounted do i need to mount it?
[10:16] <nagyv> ubuntu: it depends on the way you would like to backup it. with tar it has to be mounted.
[10:16] <Alarm> hello, i try to change the swappines. but i get the following error: salarm@rockpc:~$ sudo echo 30 >  /proc/sys/vm/swappiness bash: /proc/sys/vm/swappiness: Permission denied
[10:16] <sorush20> anyone here know of a good service menu for kubuntu to allow me to make a new compression package ?
[10:16] <nagyv> ubuntu: with partimage it should not be mounted
[10:16] <fernando> thanks obutu :-)
[10:16] <d03boy> cool. im on my vpn now haha
[10:16] <d03boy> using the pptpconfig program
[10:16] <nagyv> ubuntu: sorry, I was wrong it has to be mounted too
[10:17] <sorush20> like create a zip package with options etc?
[10:17] <ubuntu> nagyv:  i will have to DL knoppix and am too lazyfor it and wanna have it done today :S
[10:17] <nagyv> ubuntu you just don't have to use it (set it read-only)
[10:17] <Alzi2> Let me be more specific: I need to play FLV files with KDE. How?
[10:17] <nagyv> ubuntu: no prob
[10:17] <ubuntu> nagyv:  :D and how do i set read-only? :D
[10:18] <nagyv> ubuntu: khmm, ... I don't really know, just on Knoppix
[10:18] <Little_Eagle> kosmo_: Your hdb3 is defined but not formatted.
[10:18] <kosmo_> how i formatted it
[10:18] <jhutchins> ubuntu: in the mount command, in the fstab entry, or in a GUI.
[10:18] <kosmo_> but mount command not work
[10:18] <kosmo_> five me the command
[10:18] <kosmo_> plz
[10:19] <jhutchins> kosmo_: mkfs -t <type> /dev/hdb3
[10:19] <ubuntu> so if i have hdb4 as home and hdb3 as root and want backup root with tar i need to mount hdb4 and type tar -cvpzf /backup.tgz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys --exclude=/home /dev/hdb4/home/xxx so it will be stored at my home folder?
[10:20] <jhutchins> kosmo_: fdisk and cfdisk create the partition, mkfs creates the filesystem and formats it.
[10:20] <Little_Eagle> kosmo_: mk2fs -j /dev/hdb3
[10:20] <kosmo_>  mk2fs -j /dev/hdb3
[10:20] <jhutchins> ubuntu: Um, no.
[10:20] <kosmo_> oops
[10:20] <kosmo_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4471/
[10:20] <ubuntu> jhutchins:  and how plz :/
[10:20] <Little_Eagle> you can do it twice.
[10:20] <kosmo_> look at this error
[10:21] <jhutchins> kosmo_: Looks good to me ;)
[10:21] <jhutchins> ubuntu: Patience, please, multi-tasking heavily.
[10:21] <kosmo_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4471/
[10:21] <jhutchins> kosmo_: fdisk -l /dev/hdb
[10:21] <kosmo_> are you look at this error
[10:21] <ubuntu> jhutchins:  i know
[10:21] <jhutchins> ubuntu: Ok: you want to back up /home, right?
[10:21] <ck_42> Not sure if I missed a package or what...but where's the KDE Admin Console deal?  Need to add a printer.
[10:21] <ubuntu> no root
[10:22] <jhutchins> ubuntu: Ah, you want to back up _everything_.
[10:22] <ubuntu> and that  final tar file is stored at my home fodler
[10:22] <ubuntu> well no home
[10:22] <ubuntu> only system
[10:22] <ubuntu> :p
[10:22] <ubuntu> root
[10:22] <jhutchins> Ok.  Easy enough.
[10:22] <pixelation> is there a kde proggy that is like Nvu (which is totally gnome?)
[10:22] <Little_Eagle> kosmo_: looks fishy to me.  fdisk says it's there.
[10:23] <kosmo_> ok
[10:23] <kosmo_> i change now i formatted it
[10:23] <kosmo_> what now
[10:23] <jhutchins> first, the backup file /backup.tgz would be in root, so you want something like just backup.tgz (for the dir you're in) or ~/backup.tgz for your home dir.
[10:23] <pixelation> Nvu (gnome software) works very similar to dreamweaver, is there a KDE equivelent?
[10:23] <jhutchins> next, your source should just be / .
[10:23] <Little_Eagle> kosmo_: if it's formatted, then you can mount it.
[10:24] <jhutchins> ubuntu: You probably want to exclude /dev and /tmp as well.
[10:24] <jhutchins> kosmo_: now you should be able to mount it.
[10:24] <Little_Eagle> don't do /proc either.
[10:24] <kosmo_> ok
[10:24] <Little_Eagle> kosmo_: you all set now?
[10:25] <ubuntu> jhutchins:  i want exclude /mnt /dev /media /home /lost+found /tmp but tell me
[10:25] <ubuntu> which i should and i shouldnt
[10:25] <kosmo_> yes
[10:25] <kosmo_> but what i need to type
[10:25] <kosmo_> in the
[10:25] <kosmo_> /etc/fstab
[10:25] <jhutchins> ubuntu: also exclude /sys and /proc
[10:25] <kosmo_> for this mount in the start
[10:25] <Little_Eagle> I thought you said you DIDN'T want it in the fstab.
[10:25] <jhutchins> kosmo_: Where do you want to mount it?
[10:25] <ubuntu> jhutchins: so i will start with mounting root and home folder right?
[10:26] <kosmo_> /media/hdb3
[10:27] <Little_Eagle> jhutchins: You tell him.  I am going to go get a snack.
[10:27] <jhutchins> echo "/dev/hdb3 /media/hdb3 defaults,noatime 1 1" >> /etc/fstab
[10:27] <fernando> ubotu: I can install the nvidia legacy drivers, because even after I have enable all the restricted repostories (and of course update the data base) I can see any legacy drivers
[10:27] <jhutchins> kosmo_: ^
[10:27] <eisma> where can in install and download other themes for ubuntu?
[10:27] <jhutchins> make sure that's >>
[10:27] <Alzi2> How to add an entry to the menu in Konqueror that will convert FLV files for me using ffmpeg?
[10:27] <jhutchins> kosmo_: Probably a good idea to cp /etc/fstab fstab.bac
[10:27] <jhutchins> kosmo_: BEFOER you do that echo.
[10:28] <jhutchins> (Now I tell him...)
[10:28] <ubuntu> jhutchins:  when i want to mount hdb3 mount: can't find /dev/hda5 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[10:28] <fernando> someone know how to find the nvidia-glx-legacy drivers??
[10:28] <jhutchins> ubuntu: Where do you want to mount it?
[10:28] <ubuntu> af forgot
[10:28] <fernando> I have already enable the restricted repositories and update the apt-get
[10:29] <fernando> but anyway I don't see any nvidia-glx-legacy driver
[10:29] <jhutchins> ubuntu: Something like "mount /dev/hdb3 /mnt/foo"
[10:29] <jhutchins> ubuntu: If it's not defined in your fstab, you need to specify mount <what> <where> (at minimum).
[10:29] <ubuntu> jhutchins:  got them mounted
[10:29] <jhutchins> Excellent.
[10:30] <fernando> someone know how to find the nvidia-glx-legacy drivers??I have already enable the restricted repositories and update the apt-get but anyway I don't see any nvidia-glx-legacy driver
[10:30] <kosmo_> now its mount
[10:30] <kosmo_> but no the partiton
[10:30] <kosmo_> now work
[10:30] <jhutchins> kosmo_: You sure it's mounted?  Does "mount" list it?
[10:30] <kosmo_> /dev/hdb1 on /media/hdb3 type ext3 (rw)
[10:31] <kosmo_> in the mount command
[10:31] <jhutchins> touch /media/hdb3/foo; ls /media/hdb3
[10:32] <kosmo_> its work
[10:32] <kosmo_> only in sudo
[10:32] <kosmo_> not good
[10:32] <jhutchins> sudo chmod a+rwx /media/hdb3
[10:32] <ubuntu> now need to specify wat to backup so i will start with tar -cvpzf /backup.tgz --exclude=/dev --exclude=/proc --exclude=/home --exclude=/lost+found /mnt/hdb4/home/xxx ???
[10:32] <Tm_T> fernando: It's in multiverse.
[10:32] <jhutchins> ubuntu: Isn't it already mounted as /home?
[10:32] <kosmo_> now i can
[10:33] <kosmo_> jhutchins:
[10:33] <ubuntu> jhutchins:  dunno
[10:33] <jhutchins> ubuntu: "mount" will tell you.
[10:33] <fernando> tm_T where ist?
[10:33] <ubuntu> jhutchins:  wat to type mount wat
[10:33] <jhutchins> ubuntu: Just "mount".
[10:34] <jhutchins> It seems like --exclude=/home conflicts with /mnt/hdb4/home.
[10:34] <ubuntu> jhutchins:
[10:34] <ubuntu> /dev/hdb4 already mounted or /mnt/hdb4 busy
[10:34] <ubuntu> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hdb4 is already mounted on /mnt/hdb4
[10:34] <fernando> Tm_T: do you know the repository???
[10:34] <ubuntu> jhutchins: i just want to have image to be saved at /mnt/hdb4/home/myusername
[10:34] <Tm_T> fernando: Err, sure.
[10:35] <Tm_T> !multiverse
[10:35] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:35] <Tm_T> http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/misc/nvidia-glx-legacy
[10:35] <fernando> Tm_T: thanks a lot :-)
[10:35] <ubuntu> jhutchins:  can u help me plz?
[10:35] <ubuntu> jhutchins:  wat am i doing wrong?
[10:35] <Little_Eagle> kosmo_: Work now?
[10:35] <kosmo_> right
[10:36] <jhutchins> ubuntu: You're not holding your tounge right.
[10:36] <kosmo_> thanks guys
[10:36] <kosmo_> =[
[10:36] <kosmo_> =] [
[10:36] <kosmo_> =] 
[10:36] <ubuntu> :/
[10:36] <jhutchins> ubuntu: It's a little daunting to figure out.
[10:36] <jhutchins> I think this is what you want:
[10:36] <ubuntu> jhutchins:  just ask i will try to asnwer
[10:36] <ZmAY> hello, i am having cd burning problems in K3B (error 255), any help?
[10:37] <jhutchins> tar -czvf /mnt/hdb4/home/myusername/backup.tgz / --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/dev --exclude=/tmp --exclude=/sys --exclude=/proc
[10:37] <jhutchins> That make sense?
[10:37] <cgeo> hello!anybody knows a lan messaging software working both in linux and windows???
[10:37] <GalaZ> h3sp4wn: i've installed the drivers... and when the pc is rebooted i was a big error resolution 1280x1024 and when i've does login turn to 1024x748 then i can't login
[10:37] <jhutchins> ubuntu: You may need to put the / after the excludes.
[10:37] <hatta> cgeo, jabber
[10:38] <cgeo> hatta:yes but as far as i know you must set up a server
[10:38] <ubuntu> jhutchins:  oh i now know where i made mistake behind tar -cvzpf i need to put a location where image will be stored or a partiotion i want to make tgz from?
[10:38] <jhutchins> cgeo: Windows Messaging Services will work.
[10:39] <fernando> Tm_T: but do you know if I can add a repository instead a manual process??
[10:39] <cgeo> jhutchins:where can i find this??
[10:39] <jhutchins> tar -cf means tar create file, so the next thing you name is the file to create, full path.
[10:39] <Little_Eagle> kopete can talk to just about any network.
[10:39] <jhutchins> ubuntu: Then you specify the source to create it from.
[10:40] <Lynoure> Is there some trick to get dvd menu to work after ripping the disk with original menus with k9copy?
[10:40] <jhutchins> cgeo: Yes, look at kopete, that's what I was thinking of.
[10:40] <jhutchins> cgeo: It's the windows pop-up message interface.
[10:40] <sorush21> aren't there any good compression programs out there that allow selection of compression level?
[10:40] <ubuntu> jhutchins:  so this tar -czvf /mnt/hdb4/home/myusername/backup.tgz / --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/dev --exclude=/tmp --exclude=/sys --exclude=/proc will make backup from /mnt/hdb4/home/myusername/backup.tgz ?
[10:40] <Lynoure> I do see the original menu, but it is not interactive
[10:40] <jhutchins> cgeo: You'll have to enable it in windows, and I don't know the status of whatever client for Windows is.
[10:40] <d03boy> sorush21, does 7zip run on linux?
[10:40] <ZmAY> anyone here for burning CDs problems
[10:41] <jhutchins> ubuntu: ...will make a backup FROM / TO ...backup.tgz
[10:41] <cgeo> jhutchins:so i can use this to send messages from my linux box to a windows computer??thanx a lot
[10:41] <Lynoure> ZmAY: If you just tell what the problem is, someone might help you.
[10:41] <ubuntu> jhutchins:  thx but both partiotions must be mounted
[10:41] <ubuntu> ?
[10:41] <jhutchins> cgeo: Yes, the service has to be enabled on the windows box.
[10:42] <jhutchins> ubuntu: Yes.
[10:42] <d13go> ?
[10:42] <d13go> this is a chat beetween linux users?
[10:42] <ubuntu> jhutchins:  and dont need i use tar -cvzpf instead of cvzf?
[10:42] <d13go> i install linux kubuntu today sorry
[10:43] <ZmAY> when i try to burn it in K3B it says: "No media, please insert ..." and then cdrecrot returned unexpected error 255
[10:43] <jhutchins> d13go: This is support for kubuntu linux.
[10:43] <fernando> how can I install a deb file??? is the nvidia-glx-legacy_1.0.7184+2.6.17.7-10.1_amd64.deb??
[10:43] <jhutchins> d13go: Between users.
[10:43] <d13go> ok.. thank you
[10:44] <h3sp4wn> fernando: sudo dpkg -i nvidia-glx-legacy_1.0.7184+2.6.17.7-10.1_amd64.deb
[10:44] <fernando> h3sp4wn: thanks
[10:44] <Little_Eagle> fernando: click on it works.
[10:44] <ubuntu> jhutchins:  and dont need i use tar -cvzpf instead of cvzf? just curious?
[10:44] <gab_> holaaa
[10:44] <gab_> alguien espaol
[10:45] <ubuntu> !es
[10:45] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:45] <jhutchins> ubuntu: p is "preserve permissions", I believe it defaults that way...
[10:45] <gab_> gracias
[10:45] <Lynoure> ZmAY: Does it do that will any blank cd or have you just tried with one?
[10:45] <ubuntu> jhutchins:  so i should not bother with it then thx man
[10:45] <ZmAY> with all, not just one
[10:46] <ZmAY> 3 days back worked fine
[10:46] <Lynoure> ZmAY: What has changed since?
[10:46] <jhutchins> ZmAY: What changed since then?
[10:46] <jhutchins> Touche!  He's all yours Lynoure.
[10:46] <ZmAY> maybe update -- not sure, nothing else
[10:47] <excitatory> hey, could someone recommend a good web host?  all i need it for is image hosting, a small personal website (perhaps wordpress for this), a handful of email addresses with forwarding, subdomains, and at least 200gb of bandwidth..  (i've been doing it from my box at home, but i would really like to move it off my residential net connection)
[10:48] <Little_Eagle> !paste
[10:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:48] <ubuntu> jhutchins:  one more question should i put there --exclude=/home ?
[10:49] <Admiral_Chicago> excitatory: dreamhost. but thatt's offtopic
[10:49] <excitatory> Admiral_Chicago: er sorry.. you're right.
[10:49] <excitatory> thanks, though.
[10:49] <Admiral_Chicago> excitatory: DH is pretty solid. you'll get that much bandwidth for ~10 USD a month
[10:50] <ubuntu> !pastebin
[10:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:50] <ZmAY> Lynoure: any suggestions?
[10:50] <ubuntu> jhutchins:  i got this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4485/
[10:51] <Milo-> IRC-clients are unable to connect to ANY irc-networks.. how to fix? everything worked just fine before installing Kubuntu-Desktop package.
[10:52] <ubuntu> jhutchins: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4485/
[10:52] <fernando> I have install the legacy drivers of nvidia manually (sudo dppg -i drivers.deb) but.. if I try "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" then I get:
[10:52] <fernando> Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[10:52] <fernando> the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[10:53] <Lynoure> ZmAY: I'm pretty sure the cause is something that has changed. But if you do not know what has, why not try plain cdrecord for recording? That succeeding or failing can help isolate the problem
[10:53] <ubuntu> anyone can help me with backuping disk using tar?
[10:54] <ZmAY> plain cdrercord for recording? - can u tell that with other words
[10:54] <Milo-> IRC-clients are unable to connect to ANY irc-networks.. how to fix? everything worked just fine before installing Kubuntu-Desktop package. ANY HELP APPRECIATED!
[10:55] <jhutchins> ubuntu: Sorry, I guess.  You decide what you want to exclude.  Since you've excluded /mnt there's no conflict.
[10:55] <ubuntu> jhutchins:  i am on livecd
[10:55] <ubuntu> jhutchins: so wat the problem then?
[10:56] <jhutchins> ubuntu: Sorry, I don't have a complete picture of what you're doing.
[10:56] <jhutchins> /dev/hdb4 is /home?
[10:56] <ubuntu> jhutchins: tar -czvf /mnt/hdb4/home/xenol/backup.tgz / --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/dev --exclude=/tmp --exclude=/sys --exclude=/proc
[10:56] <ubuntu> only this
[10:56] <jhutchins> k.
[10:56] <ubuntu> and it shows http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4485/
[10:57] <jhutchins> Let me understand more about what you're doing.  I understand now you're on the live CD, trying to back up the system disk(s).
[10:57] <ubuntu> jhutchins:  yeah root disk i have it as hdb3
[10:57] <Little_Eagle> Milo-: Sounds to me like a firewall problem.  Check to make sure port 6667 is open.
[10:58] <jhutchins> ubuntu: So when you boot to the disk, is /dev/hdb3 /home or is it /?
[10:58] <ubuntu> jhutchins:  my home folder is hd4 and i want to have my tgz of hdb3 stored there
[10:58] <ubuntu> jhutchins:  hdb3  is /
[10:58] <jhutchins> ubuntu: these are both mounted now?
[10:58] <ubuntu> jhutchins:  yeah hdb3 and also hdb4
[10:59] <ubuntu> i just unmouted em
[10:59] <jhutchins> ubuntu: Ok, try your command again, but: remove the lone / , then at the END of the command put /mnt/hdb3/
[10:59] <Milo-> Little_Eagle yeah but this router is in "bridged" position and all ports should be enabled..
[10:59] <Milo-> nothing has changed after installing kubuntu-desktop package
[11:00] <jhutchins> ubuntu: WHups, wait...
[11:00] <Little_Eagle> Milo-:  You on a live CD now?
[11:00] <jhutchins> ubuntu: Tricky stuff this.  You don't want to exclude /mnt, you want to exclude /mnt/hdb3/mnt
[11:00] <ubuntu> yeah
[11:00] <ubuntu> so i need to put it there right?
[11:00] <jhutchins> likewise with the other directories.
[11:00] <Milo-> Little_Eagle nope, i'm on my own computer
[11:01] <Milo-> helping my buddy with ubuntu installation stuff
[11:01] <Little_Eagle> So why are you complaining?  You're on IRC.
[11:01] <Milo-> he installed ubuntu but now he wants kde -_-
[11:01] <jhutchins> ubuntu: You don't need to exclude /mnt/hdb3/home, because it's just a mount point.
[11:01] <Lynoure> ZmAY: try burning a cd with cdrecord directly (sorry for the delay, it's midnight here and I was getting ready to sleep soon)
[11:01] <ubuntu> jhutchins: so i need to add /mnt/hdb3/ before /sys /proc /tmp etc?
[11:01] <jhutchins> ubuntu: You do want them munted.
[11:02] <jhutchins> ubuntu: I would.
[11:02] <ZmAY> dont know how
[11:02] <jhutchins> ubuntu: THere's always more than one way to do it.
[11:02] <mjw-> could anyone help with troubleshooting audio problems? (more specifically, not having any)
[11:02] <ubuntu> jhutchins:  and wat with /mnt/hdb3/home need it there or no?
[11:02] <Milo-> Little_Eagle because my friend needs to be able to connect as well -_-
[11:02] <Milo-> but it's solved now
[11:02] <mjw-> just did a fresh install on kubuntu
[11:02] <Milo-> no idea what was wrong
[11:02] <Milo-> but it's fixed
[11:03] <ksnipa> anyone c++ programmers here familiar with libmtp?  I got mtp compiled and working fine, but when I try to make calls to its api from a script I keep getting reference errors on compile...
[11:03] <jhutchins> ubuntu: you can look with ls /mnt/hdb3/home and see, should be empty.
[11:03] <neil__> hi there everyone. day 3 and loving my kubuntu so far
[11:03] <Little_Eagle> Milo-:  Magic!
[11:03] <jhutchins> since /home is hdb4.
[11:03] <Milo-> Little_Eagle indeed -_-
[11:03] <Little_Eagle> neil__: Good for you.
[11:03] <ubuntu> jhutchins:  ye
[11:03] <Milo-> now is just his keyboard layout
[11:03] <Milo-> -_-
[11:03] <neil__> what is the best browser for kubuntu and is there a midi sequencer for it?
[11:04] <Lynoure> ZmAY: I can point you to instructions. But first, did you cancel a burn before this one failing?
[11:04] <just-this-time> !nvidia
[11:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:04] <ZmAY> nop
[11:04] <ubuntu> jhutchins:  so wat to do now?
[11:05] <Little_Eagle> neil__: Browser choice is personal.  I use three.  As for sequencing software, enable your extra repositories and search with adept.
[11:06] <neil__> what name would i search for?
[11:06] <neil__> and what browsers are good?
[11:06] <Lynoure> ZmAY: and if there is an option to use TAO as a writing mode, try that
[11:07] <ZmAY> did
[11:07] <ZmAY> same shit
[11:07] <Little_Eagle> according to my search, muse looks promising.
[11:07] <jhutchins> ubuntu: Um, did you try that command?
[11:07] <ksnipa> neil__; I've always preferred firefox overall, but konqurer looks much better in kde
[11:07] <ubuntu> jhutchins:  i added /mnt/hdb3 before those excludes and same stuff
[11:07] <jott> neil__: opera, konqueror and firefox are good browsers..
[11:07] <goodthing> neil__: konqueror kicks some serious ass though can be a little overwhelming for starters
[11:08] <neil__> how do i get adept to open
[11:09] <ZmAY> Lynoure: is there a way i can see which things were updated today?
[11:09] <neil__> it doesnt seem to open just asks for my password then doesnt open
[11:09] <jhutchins> ubuntu: Fire away!  The worst that can happen is you can fill up your target hard drive.
[11:09] <ubuntu> jhutchins:  hmm i dont have permission?
[11:10] <neil__> sudo passwd to change my root password or permissions?
[11:10] <Little_Eagle> K-menu -> System -> Adept, or just press Alt-F2 and type kdesu adept
[11:10] <ubuntu> jhutchins:  thx for help man i musst go sleep and think about
[11:10] <ubuntu> jhutchins:  can tar be done from hdd where linux is made or i need to use livecd?
[11:10] <Little_Eagle> neil, use your password, not root password
[11:11] <ZmAY> Lynoure: or tell me the name of some other burning tools for linux
[11:11] <neil__> cammand adept not found
[11:11] <Little_Eagle> sudo passwd will enable the root account, and you don't want (or need) to do that.
[11:11] <jhutchins> ubuntu: It can be done from the HD.  You have to think out what to exclude so you don't end up trying to tar the tar as you create it.
[11:12] <ubuntu> ok gn
[11:12] <neil__> nope still dont open
[11:12] <just-this-time> ubuntu sudo solution view sounds strange but efficient
[11:12] <Little_Eagle> neil__: are you the only user on the system and did you install it?
[11:12] <ksnipa> neil__: sudo apt-get install adept
[11:13] <just-this-time> !sudo | neil
[11:13] <ubotu> neil: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:13] <Lynoure> ZmAY: There must be, but I cannot think of a way right now.
[11:13] <Hoxxin> What is yout favorite digicamera program? i tried digikam but it seems a bit buggy with the camera
[11:13] <Little_Eagle> just-this-time: I hated it at first.  Now I like it.
[11:14] <just-this-time> ubuntu is ok for me  fedora was  and maybe still is for a beginner
[11:15] <just-this-time> fedoar was a nightmare I mean for beginners
[11:15] <just-this-time> and maybe still is
[11:15] <neil__> no idea i cant get the darn thing to open. i have the icon in the bottom right task bar but i enter my password and it just takes it and nothing happens
[11:15] <just-this-time> open what eexactly neil
[11:15] <neil__> adept
[11:16] <just-this-time> !kdesu
[11:16] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[11:16] <Little_Eagle> Adept should be installed by default.
[11:16] <ZmAY> Lynoure: ok, can u just tell me how to burn with cdrecord
[11:16] <hatta> cdresord file.iso
[11:16] <just-this-time> hw does neil check if installed Little_Eagle ?
[11:16] <hatta> cdrecord file.iso
[11:16] <hatta> couldn't be easier
[11:16] <neil__> its in the taskbar but it wont open. it asks for my password then when i enter it it just goes away and nothing happens.
[11:16] <crazy_penguin> Good night all!
[11:16] <just-this-time> adept I mean Little_Eagle
[11:17] <Hoxxin> So can anyone suggest a good digicamera program, not digikam
[11:17] <just-this-time> right neil . go figure
[11:17] <just-this-time> linux has that oddities
[11:17] <TheGateKeeper> http://penguinslair.org/wiki/index.php/Command_line_Burning
[11:18] <just-this-time> firefox jums like that on some not fully installed graphic cards
[11:18] <neil__> if my permissions are messed up by sudo how do i fix them?
[11:18] <just-this-time> jumps
[11:18] <hatta> what do you need a digicam program for? Just plug it in, mount it and use it like a USB key
[11:18] <hatta> no special software required
[11:18] <Little_Eagle> locate adept returns quite a bit of info...
[11:18] <just-this-time> neil do you know howto kill apps from konsole ?
[11:18] <just-this-time> then ensure privileges with kdesu neil
[11:18] <neil__> no this is day 3 with this operating system. i am a newby
[11:19] <just-this-time> !kdesu | neil
[11:19] <ubotu> neil: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[11:19] <TheGateKeeper> just-this-time, use killall
[11:19] <Little_Eagle> I did say that.
[11:19] <Lynoure> ZmAY: I'm not sure ubuntu has any other graphical cd burners for KDE. The distribution is quite focused in best-of-breed. cdrecord can be confusing to use if you are not used of doing things on the command line. But the basic form of the command is   sudo cdrecord dev=/dev/yourcdburnerdevice speed=6 -v somedisc.iso
[11:20] <Little_Eagle> Don't use apt-get either.  Use aptitude instead.
[11:20] <just-this-time> what apt command in konsole will give me a short explanation of a package?
[11:20] <neil__> how do i fix my permissions file if its corrupt?
[11:20] <just-this-time> Little_Eagle: i use apt-get all the time
[11:20] <Little_Eagle> apt-cache show packagename
[11:20] <just-this-time> tyvm Little_Eagle
[11:21] <neil__> i have used sudo and apt-get both so mabey my permission files are screwed and thats my problem
[11:21] <Little_Eagle> read: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/aptitude
[11:22] <Little_Eagle> neil, paste your error.
[11:22] <ubuntu_> hi, currently using a live kubuntu cd to repair a windows laptop.. im trying to get access to the hardrive; when i mount i dont have permission to se files, ive tried several chmod attempts to enble be access but no luck. how may i get full acess to this hardrive from kubuntu. what is the root password on a live cd?
[11:22] <Little_Eagle> !paste
[11:22] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:22] <neil__> i dont get an error just i enter my password and nothing happens.
[11:23] <Little_Eagle> neil__: what happens if you try from a terminal?
[11:23] <neil__> just a second i will try it.
[11:23] <just-this-time> I will transfer most used  goodies (links) to my http://del.icio.us
[11:24] <neil__> kdesu adept right?
[11:24] <Little_Eagle> yep
[11:24] <jhutchins> !sudo | ubuntu_
[11:24] <ubotu> ubuntu_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:24] <neil__> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[11:24] <neil__>   Major opcode:  144
[11:24] <neil__>   Minor opcode:  3
[11:24] <just-this-time> ubuntu_ change /nick  add some personality
[11:24] <neil__>   Resource id:  0x0
[11:25] <neil__> Failed to open device
[11:25] <just-this-time> !paste |nei
[11:25] <ubotu> nei: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:25] <neil__> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[11:25] <neil__>   Major opcode:  144
[11:25] <ZmAY> Lynoure: fuckit, going to sleep, tnx anywhy
[11:25] <neil__>   Minor opcode:  3
[11:25] <neil__>   Resource id:  0x0
[11:25] <neil__> Failed to open device
[11:25] <neil__> xauth: (argv):1:  bad display name ":0.0" in "list" command
[11:25] <neil__> kdesu (kdelibs): WARNING: No X authentication info set for display :0.0
[11:25] <neil__> xauth: (argv):1:  bad display name ":0.0" in "list" command
[11:25] <just-this-time> !paste | neil
[11:25] <neil__> kdesu (kdelibs): WARNING: No X authentication info set for display :0.0
[11:25] <ubotu> neil: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:25] <Little_Eagle> neil__:  That;s because you don't have a wacom touchpad.  Paste it on pastbin
[11:26] <ubuntu_> live kubuntu cd root password  any 1?
[11:26] <neil__> i pasted it
[11:26] <Lynoure> ZmAY: sleep well
[11:27] <Little_Eagle> oh, it's called apept_manager.  Shows you how much I use it.
[11:27] <Little_Eagle> now tell me the link to the pastebin.
[11:28] <neil__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4489/
[11:29] <Little_Eagle> neil_: looks to me like you were root.
[11:29] <_paul> Hello!
[11:29] <neil__> ok so why didnt it open
[11:29] <Little_Eagle> root can't get a graphical interface.
[11:30] <neil__> ok so how do i become myself again?
[11:30] <Little_Eagle> exit
[11:30] <neil__> su neil
[11:30] <Little_Eagle> but how did you become root?
[11:31] <neil__> i dont know i am new to this
[11:31] <_paul> Is there any way to copy an image to the KDE clipboard in firefox?
[11:31] <neil__> mabey when i tried to set the root password by sudo su root passwd
[11:32] <ubuntu_> anything other than chmod to enable me access to a folder?
[11:32] <mjw--> can anyone help with accessing alsamixer?
[11:32] <mjw--> I'm not able to get any sound out of my onboard intel hd audio :(
[11:32] <mjw--> I'm not sure if it's muted or not
[11:33] <mjw--> but when I type alsamixer in terminal I get an error saying I can't access the shared library
[11:33] <Little_Eagle> I find that hard to beleive.  You must have given root a password.  Doesn't matter.  When you are prompted with a password screen from KDE, use YOUR password, not root password.
[11:34] <ubuntu_> any1 know an efnet server so i can get some help
[11:35] <Little_Eagle> google
[11:35] <ubuntu_> yer kk
[11:37] <Little_Eagle> neil__: no, that's not it, but if you sudo passwd, that will do it.
[11:37] <soulrider> ubuntu_: can you use krfb ?
[11:37] <Little_Eagle> !sudo
[11:37] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:38] <Little_Eagle> neil__: read that page.
[11:38] <Little_Eagle> I need to go.  Beddy-bye time.  'night all.
[11:39] <maverick> ola alguien de espaa?
[11:39] <TheGateKeeper> !es
[11:39] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:39] <markc> is it possible to import a normal sqlite db into kexi ?
[11:41] <jim46> ciao a tutti
[11:41] <jim46> qualkuno puo aiutarmi....
[11:43] <_paul> irc://irc.mozilla.org/firefox
[11:43] <_paul> Oops
[11:43] <_paul> :S
[11:51] <neil__> how do i reset my permissions file back to original incase its screwed up?
[11:51] <just-this-time> hi resolutions low before graphics drivers
[11:52] <D4rkly> how can i upgrade dapper to latest build ?
[11:52] <just-this-time> when to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg before or after nvidia-glx install?
[11:53] <neil__> how do i reset my permissions file so i can get into stuff again? i am locked out of my networking and everything
[11:53] <just-this-time> sudo nvidia-xconfig
[11:53] <just-this-time> Password:
[11:53] <just-this-time> sudo: nvidia-xconfig: command not found
[11:54] <word> neil__: do you still have root access? from there you can at least manually change things back through system settings
[11:54] <neil__> i can get to root in terminal
[11:54] <D4rkly> how can i upgrade dapper to latest build ?
[11:55] <neil__> i am at root in the terminal now
[11:56] <underdog5004> !dist_upgrade
[11:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dist_upgrade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
 what do i do now that i am at root to reset my permissions?
[11:57] <word> neil__: you don't need to be root in terminal you just need access you can go from kmenu->system settings->advanced->whatever to change permissions back
[11:57] <dwidmann> just-this-time: try sudo nvidia-glx-config
[11:58] <neil__> under system services or what would it be under? session manager?
[12:02] <neil__> where in system settings /advanced do i reset my permissions?
[12:03] <oleg> I have a problem: when multiple users are logged in and someone inserts a usb stick, ther users get access to it, leaving whoever inserted in denial
[12:04] <phobiac> Geez, I seem to have an issue every week. Oh well it's expected when I'm constantly messing around with new programs. Anyway I'm getting an odd error (and because of it) sudo as well as kdesu don't work. When I type "sudo something" it says there's syntax errors in the sudoers files on lines 0-9, and says the sudoers file is /etc/sudoers..
[12:06] <phobiac> oleg: It sounds like you have to change mounting permissions, but I can't recall where you would do that. You probably have to turn off the options that let things be readable to the group.
[12:07] <dwidmann> phobiac: You'll need to boot in recovery mode and fix the sudoers file
[12:08] <phobiac> dwidmann: When I boot in recovery mode I'll be able to read/write to the file? I have a live CD too if that might help.
[12:09] <phobiac> Okay yeah, that logs me in as root.
[12:09] <dwidmann> Yup
[12:10] <phobiac> Well that's incredibly odd.
[12:10] <ucordes> how can i get different keyboard layout ins kubuntu? (they seam to be not installed since i can't select them in control center. the list with keyboard layouts is just empty) if it is of any importance: i have ubuntu edgy installed and switched over to KDE by installing the packages kde and kubuntu-desktop
[12:11] <ucordes> btw hi all :)
[12:11] <phobiac> I think I should log this as a bug but I'm not sure how. Somehow the begining of my sudoers file has an error written to it.
[12:11] <raeez> Help: I have installed beryl and now my kde desktop takes forever to load (the desktop in particular) and the desktop crashes after a few minutes. what can i do?
[12:11] <flaccid0> ucordes: i can't remember, but the guys in #kde will if no luck here
[12:11] <Ch1ppy> hello, I am running dual screens and I wish to have a second panel on my right screen.  Problem is, I want it to be tiny (24 px) instead of "Normal" (48 px?), and it will not resize.  Right clicking on the panel and selecting configure only brings me to a window that affects only the main panel...  Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[12:12] <phobiac> ucordes: I had that issue. I had to put a symlink somewhere to fix it.
[12:12] <BluesKaj> ucordes, i hate to state the obvious , but have you checked keyboards in system settings
[12:12] <oleg> phobiac: Thats the problem: I need to find out how to change these permissions
[12:12] <phobiac> ucordes: Give me five minutes and I should be able to find what Idid about.
[12:13] <phobiac> oleg: I can't rememember how to. Try /msg the bot and investigsting with it.
[12:14] <oleg> phobiac: I don't know how to use msg bot :(
[12:14] <BluesKaj> !permissions
[12:14] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux