[03:06] <meatballhat> any Launchpad pros about?
[03:21] <meatballhat> anyone around who'd be willing to pop into a LoCo Team's meeting this Wed at 0100 UTC ??
[03:21] <meatballhat> seriously ... we'll feed you virtual pizza  :P
[03:24] <meatballhat> if anyone reads this and is willing to throw some pointers at our LoCo Team about using Launchpad, we'd much appreciate it if you'd show up at 0100 UTC in #ubuntu-ohio  :D  Cheers...
[07:47] <Bhaskar> stub, still problem to download po and mo of schooltool?
[07:48] <stub> I haven't heard anything more.
[08:49] <mruiz> hi, someone know who I must contact if I have problems with my ubuntu.com email account?
[08:58] <mdke> mruiz: what sort of problems
[08:59] <mruiz> mkde: mail delays
[09:00] <mdke> it's "mdke"
[09:00] <mdke> mruiz: are you sure the mail is being delayed at the Ubuntu server?
[09:03] <mdke> mine are coming through immediately, afaics
[09:04] <mruiz> mdke: yes, I'm waiting for a lot of emails (Keysinging) and only I don't received my ubuntu.com emails
[09:05] <mruiz> mdke,  ups.. keysigning!
[09:08] <mdke> mruiz: you can ask the nice people in #canonical-sysadmin. I think it is likely to be caused by you setting your @ubuntu.com address as your preferred launchpad address, which is not allowed and can break things
[09:09] <mruiz> mdke: ... interesting answer :) thanks!
[09:10] <carlos__> morning
[09:12] <mdke> morning carlos 
[09:14] <cowbud> anyone care to explain why I can't set a bug to confirm do I need to be a part of the ubunteneros now or something?
[09:15] <mruiz> mdke -> processing bugs! ;-)
[09:16] <mdke> cowbud: no you don't. Which bug?
[09:16] <mdke> mruiz: tickets, I'm not subscribed to the ubuntu-website tickets, so I only those now
[09:16] <mdke> only saw*
[09:17] <cowbud> anyone I pick I don't see where to set the bug to confirmed..
[09:17] <cowbud> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/82335
[09:17] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 82335 in network-manager "network-manager should not set offline mode when it manages no device" [High,Unconfirmed]  
[09:17] <cowbud> take that one for example
[09:18] <mdke> you see where it says "Affects network-manager", next to "Unconfirmed"? You click on that
[09:18] <cowbud> hah wow
[09:18] <cowbud> sad times
[09:19] <cowbud> maybe I should go to bed :) 
[09:19] <mdke> well, perhaps it isn't as obvious as it could be
[09:19] <mdke> maybe it could have an expand arrow by it
[09:19] <cowbud> I thought if I clicked there it would take me to an overview of network-manager bugs
[09:19] <cowbud> so I never did..
[09:20] <mdke> you could report a bug on malone and explain that. I think it is valid
[09:20] <cowbud> alright 
[09:20] <cowbud> :) 
[09:41] <cowbud> mdke: :) someone submitted the bug in 2005 and it has 9 duplicates
[09:50] <mdke> hah
[09:50] <mdke> cowbud: what number is it?
[09:51] <cowbud> 1095
[09:51] <cowbud> https://launchpad.net/malone/+bug/1095
[09:51] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 1095 in malone "Unnecessarily difficult to find how to change status or reassign a bug" [Medium,Confirmed]  
[09:56] <mdke> thanks
[09:59] <mrevell> cowbud, mdke: Thanks for raising the bug. I don't know if you know, but we're working on a new UI for Launchpad, which fixes issues such as this.
[09:59] <mrevell> I know that's not much help for now, but we are working on it :)
[09:59] <cowbud> does it also fix the issue of people submitting bugs not able to select the distro? :) 
[10:00] <cowbud> i.e. edgy feisty dapper 
[10:00] <mrevell> cowbud: tbh I'd need to check that.
[10:00] <cowbud> it makes triaging not so much fun 
[10:01] <mrevell> cowbud: mpt may be able to answer your question. He's our UI guru.
[10:01] <cowbud> ok
[10:02] <mrevell> mpt: cowbud asks if the 1.0 UI allows users to select the distro affected when submitting a bug.
[10:02] <cowbud> mpt: do you know if the UI updates being done to malone are going to include the ability to have people submitting bugs to select which version of ubuntu they are using? i.e. edgy, dapper, feisty
[10:02] <mpt> cowbud, no
[10:02] <cowbud> that way people who triage can also search for just feisty bugs etc. I know there are bugs for that..
[10:02] <cowbud> is that ever going to make it in?
[10:02] <mpt> cowbud, yes :-)
[10:02] <cowbud> yAy
[10:03] <cowbud> :)
[10:03] <mpt> but it's separate from 1.0
[10:03] <cowbud> well as long as it is going to make it in :) 
[10:03] <cowbud> at some point
[10:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #1095 in malone "Unnecessarily difficult to find how to change status or reassign a bug" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/1095
[10:07] <mpt> cowbud, it's bug 424
[10:07] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 424 in malone "Bugs have no fields to specify package or product versions" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/424
[10:08] <cowbud> thanks
[12:09] <oojah> kiko: Thanks for sorting my project support request.
[12:10] <Mez> hmm. with the whole "Launchpad emails" (@ubuntu.com/@ubuntu.org) I'd like to set my ubuntu.com as my primary email (so that I dont get my "container" email account used!) is it not possible to have an option of "Use this address to send me emails" and "Display this email address everywhere as my contact address"
[12:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83548 in soyuz "feisty non-release pockets need to be regenerated" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83548
[01:12] <mantiena> hi all
[01:18] <popey> is there some reason that the launchpad support ticket system only has /ubuntu/ and not /kubuntu/ etc, and further, kde packages (such as konsole) don't appear to be listed, so people cant submit support tickets against that package
[01:18] <popey> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-helpteam/2007-February/000012.html is the question that prompted this
[01:19] <Fujitsu> kubuntu is part of ubuntu. All Ubuntu packages should be there, but konsole is likely to be inside kdebase or similar
[01:19] <Fujitsu> Indeed:
[01:19] <Fujitsu> Package: konsole
[01:19] <Fujitsu> ...
[01:19] <Fujitsu> Source: kdebase
[01:19] <popey> nope
[01:20] <popey> search for kmail or kate
[01:20] <Fujitsu> kdenetwork
[01:20] <popey> heh, ahh, koffice is there
[01:20] <Fujitsu> Oops, kdepim
[01:20] <Fujitsu> kmail is kdepim, kate is kdebase again.
[01:20] <popey> ok, understood
[01:21] <popey> I dont use kde so didn't know that structure, thanks
[01:21] <popey> would it make sense to have an /kubuntu/ alias though?
[01:21] <Fujitsu> Not really.
[01:21] <Fujitsu> As Kubuntu == Ubuntu in LP terms.
[01:22] <popey> from a kubuntu users point of view they have wiki.kubuntu and kubuntu.org
[01:22] <popey> why should the support channel be different
[01:22] <popey> I understand the technical reasons for it, but from a user perspective its not consistent
[01:22] <Fujitsu> (note that the wiki is just a different skin)
[01:22] <popey> yes, I know, but it still gives them some idea that kubuntu != ubuntu
[01:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #38398 in rosetta "Bad wording in MO export" [Low,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/38398
[02:39] <evil_kiko> hi there
[02:39] <evil_kiko> jamesh, help
[02:41] <jamesh> evil_kiko: https://devpad.canonical.com/~andrew/paste/fileBjiJnK.html
[02:42] <ddaa> good morning
[02:42] <ddaa> ALL YOUR BASE-0 ARE BELONG TO ME
[02:48] <stub> Oops. He has cracked.
[02:48] <stub> (again)
[03:18] <evil_kiko> red rum! red rum!
[03:22] <evil_kiko> SteveA ping
[03:42] <evil_kiko> niemeyer: https://sodium.ubuntu.com/~andrew/paste/fileSrm7IH.html
[03:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83569 in launchpad "[feisty] launch (both) gnome and kde" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83569
[03:46] <SteveA> evil_kiko: wassup?
[03:46] <evil_kiko> SteveA I have done some dbschema movement
[03:46] <evil_kiko> but I am troubled by adding enumcol.py to webapp/
[03:46] <evil_kiko> I read your email
[03:46] <evil_kiko> and you don't say anything about EnumCol specifically
[03:47] <evil_kiko> my simple proposal involves putting enumcol.py (containing only EnumCol) into canonical.database
[03:47] <evil_kiko> and having the rest of the stuff in webapp.enum as you requested
[03:47] <evil_kiko> now
[03:47] <evil_kiko> I forsee canonical.database becoming webapp.database
[03:47] <evil_kiko> hopefully
[03:48] <evil_kiko> and webapp.adapter moving into that subpackage as well
[03:48] <evil_kiko> SteveA how much of this makes you go WTF 
[03:48] <evil_kiko> SteveA I am doing this to simplify what Gustavo needs to look at to convert
[03:49] <evil_kiko> EnumCol is the next victim
[03:50] <evil_kiko> SteveA maybe you wanna have a phone call about this
[03:51] <SteveA> evil_kiko: thumper is doing this
[03:51] <SteveA> why are you doing it?
[03:51] <SteveA> ok
[03:51] <SteveA> I'm fine with enumcol going into database
[03:51] <SteveA> but please coordinate with thumper
[03:51] <SteveA> so that you guys don't duplicate work
[03:51] <SteveA> also
[03:52] <SteveA> don't go off my email
[03:52] <SteveA> go off the spec
[03:52] <SteveA> thumper is maintaining that spec
[03:52] <evil_kiko> SteveA: I'm doing this to help gustavo mostly
[03:52] <evil_kiko> (and to actually get things done asap instead of postponing forever now that there is blood on the apron)
[03:52] <SteveA> I don't see that moving dbschema stuff around unblocks anything
[03:52] <evil_kiko> I will chat with thumper about this. TYVM
[03:52] <SteveA> and you said you're really busy
[03:53] <SteveA> so, I wonder why you're doing this right now
[03:53] <evil_kiko> SteveA: it makes the customization point for storm very simple
[03:53] <SteveA> nothing is being postponed forever
[03:53] <evil_kiko> instead of messing in a file
[03:53] <SteveA> thumper is doing it
[03:53] <evil_kiko> which contains 5 million other things
[03:53] <SteveA> don't be worried by messing in that file
[03:53] <evil_kiko> does thumper have a branch with this started? 
[03:53] <SteveA> this reorganisation can be done afterwards.  of course, it can be done before as well.
[03:53] <evil_kiko> right
[03:53] <SteveA> I don't know.  you should talk with him before taking his task
[03:54] <SteveA> and work off the spec rather than the emails to the list, and amend the spec if you need to do something with enumcol
[03:54] <evil_kiko> k
[04:00] <evil_kiko> niemeyer https://sodium.ubuntu.com/~andrew/paste/filehgxqHV.html
, Request for non-PQM managed
[04:26] <carlos> evil_kiko: well, the problem is that I still lack permissions for the ui branch
[04:26] <carlos> I was just checking it ;-)
[04:27] <evil_kiko> carlos: have you requested this from lifeless or stub or SteveA? I didn't think we were going to merge to that tree anyway
[04:27] <carlos> danilos has rights
[04:27] <evil_kiko> oh
[04:27] <evil_kiko> how odd
[04:27] <carlos> and mpt asked me to do it
[04:27] <evil_kiko> maybe proxy your landings through danilos then
[04:28] <carlos> SteveA: asked me to request such access to lifeless but I guess he was tired when he arrived to .au
[04:28] <danilos> evil_kiko: he is already, but when we hit problems, it gets more complicated
[04:28] <carlos> evil_kiko: I did, but he got a weird error
[04:28] <danilos> evil_kiko: I got a 'merge failed' error
[04:29] <danilos> btw, kiko, why have you turned so evil?
[04:30] <evil_kiko> merge failed why?
[04:30] <salgado> I thought lifeless said he'd given permission for everybody to land fixes on the ui branch
[04:31] <salgado> carlos, are you sure you're using the correct branch location?
[04:31] <jamesh> stub gave everyone permission
[04:32] <evil_kiko> carlos: it looks like you're merging to the wrong place
[04:32] <evil_kiko> because otherwise it wouldn't say non-PQM managed branch.
[04:33] <carlos> evil_kiko: well, I asked SteveA and he said it was the right one
[04:34] <danilos> evil_kiko: https://devpad.canonical.com/~andrew/paste/filelPl2Bl.html
[04:34] <evil_kiko> danilos: you need to merge from RF first.
[04:34] <salgado> carlos, you can use pqm-submit --dry-run to check thatc
[04:34] <evil_kiko> danilos: that happened to me yesterday; it was because I lacked a revision which stub landed
[04:34] <evil_kiko> danilos: and which was manually fixed somehow
[04:34] <evil_kiko> danilos: so bzr merge and then submit again and you should be fine
[04:35] <carlos> evil_kiko: https://devpad.canonical.com/~andrew/paste/filexwRtZh.html
[04:35] <carlos> evil_kiko: I already checked it
[04:36] <evil_kiko> isn't it --ui-one-zero or something?
[04:37] <evil_kiko> mmmm
[04:37] <carlos> evil_kiko: I branched from that one
[04:37] <carlos> (the one I pasted to you)
[04:37] <evil_kiko> pretty odd indeed carlos 
[04:37] <evil_kiko> but carlos, danilos' failure is known and easy to fix.
[04:38] <carlos> evil_kiko_fud: the thing is that I don't see any conflict to solve
[04:39] <carlos> hmm
[04:39] <BjornT> carlos: try removing the slash at the end of ui-one-zero/
[04:39] <salgado> carlos, try to remove the trailing slash
[04:39] <BjornT> carlos: right :) iirc, pqm is picky about that...
[04:39] <salgado> duh
[04:39] <carlos> I guess it does ;-)
[04:42] <carlos> salgado, BjornT, danilos, kiko: That was the problem, the ending slash
[04:42] <carlos> thanks for your help
[04:43] <danilos> carlos: ah, nice, good luck with your merge then :)
[04:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83581 in launchpad ""Answered By" should read "Solved By"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83581
[04:55] <ddaa> duh, no
[04:57] <ddaa> okay, this UI is terminally confused
[04:57] <ddaa> Status: Answered
[04:57] <ddaa> Answered by: Not yet answered
[04:57] <ddaa> Responded: 2007-02-06
[04:57] <ddaa> flacoste: so, is it answered, responded, not answered, not responded, neither, all?
[04:58] <flacoste> ddaa: Answered by should be renamed to Solved by
[04:58] <ddaa> marshmallow?
[04:58] <ddaa> You "solve" a "question"?
[04:59] <ddaa> No... you "reply to" a "question", and if you do it well you "answer" it :)
[04:59] <flacoste> we used to solve support request, now it seems we solve question
[04:59] <ddaa> and this "responded" thing... I guess it should be "Last reply"....
[05:00] <flacoste> yeah, 'Last reply' would be more appropriate, I'll file a bug with these two problem
[05:00] <ddaa> flacoste: I share your pain
[05:00] <flacoste> thanks ddaa! compassion is always heart-warming
[05:00] <ddaa> this whole portlet thing is wrong in so many respect it's decidedly not funny
[05:03] <flacoste> hey what a funny guy this "Andreas Redmer"!
[05:04] <flacoste> https://aunchpad.net/~unbenannt how creative!
[05:04] <flacoste> that deserves the 'most annoying edit' award
[05:06] <flacoste> ddaa: bug 83586
[05:06] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 83586 in launchpad-support-tracker "Details portlet has confusing labels" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83586 - Assigned to Francis J. Lacoste (flacoste)
[05:12] <ddaa> flacoste: replied to this bug
[05:12] <ddaa> can you answer my reply? :)
[05:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83586 in launchpad-support-tracker "Details portlet has confusing labels" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83586
[05:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83589 in launchpad "searching for a number in a product's bug jumps to that bug number even if it's unrelated" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83589
[05:21] <flacoste> ddaa: i just did
[05:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83590 in launchpad "mouseover in guided bug reporting times out too fast" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83590
[05:26] <ddaa> flacoste: crazy discussion
[05:27] <ddaa> do not have time to get involved
[05:33] <Nafallo> I want bzr+ssh for the SuperMirror...
[05:36] <ddaa> So do we.
[05:36] <ddaa> Nafallo: but maybe spiv's time is best spent on the hpss
[05:37] <Nafallo> :-)
[05:37] <Nafallo> I'm pushing mplayer... it's big and slow ;-)
[05:37] <ddaa> bzr+ssh is not going to improve that terribly
[05:38] <ddaa> but the hpss makes it possible to improve this a lot
[05:38] <ddaa> (assuming you are pushing a branch based on the vcs-import)
[05:38] <Nafallo> I'm not :-)
[05:39] <Nafallo> but based on ~ubuntu-dev/mplayer/ubuntu
[05:39] <ddaa> I wonder why I go to all this trouble if people do not use those imports...
[05:39] <ddaa> Nafallo: same difference
[05:39] <ddaa> dumb server cannot figure out it has got all the data already
[05:39] <Nafallo> ddaa: mplayer import fails anyway :-)
[05:39] <ddaa> I thought I had fixed it...
[05:39] <Nafallo> I checked last night :-)
[05:40] <ddaa> so, bzr+ssh is going to make a tremendous difference
[05:41] <ddaa> sorry about this, but providing shared repos with a dumbfs protocol prevents access control
[05:42] <ddaa> hpss will solve this problem, so we can couple it with the launchpad db so redundant data will not need to be uploaded
[05:42] <ddaa> not for next week, but definitely in the next six months
[05:42] <Nafallo> that would really rock :-)
[05:43] <Nafallo> maybe one thing could be done as a quick and dirty fix now already... ;-)
[05:43] <ddaa> sadly, no
[05:43] <Nafallo> I always push to ~team/$package/$branch
[05:43] <ddaa> per-user-per-product shared repos _sounds_ like it would work
[05:43] <Nafallo> maybe $package could be an init-repo?
[05:43] <ddaa> but it has got too many edge cases
[05:44] <ddaa> like it makes moving branches around difficult
[05:44] <ddaa> and can also cause huge lock contention for team-owned branches
[05:45] <ddaa> and also it just does not fit with our current system
[05:45] <Nafallo> ah :-/
[05:45] <Nafallo> then I'll just wait for spivs fixes then :-)
[05:45] <Nafallo> and deal with it until then :-)
[05:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83594 in launchpad "[feisty] azureus wont open after update of java" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83594
[05:46] <ddaa> BTW, I was meaning "bzr+ssh is NOT going to make a tremendous difference"
[05:47] <ddaa> Nafallo: on the other hand, with the dumb sftp server there can be hacks to ease your pain
[05:48] <ddaa> such as first uploading an empty branch
[05:48] <ddaa> and then copying the .bzr/repository using scp
[05:49] <ddaa> well, not scp, but some sftp client, maybe lftp
[05:49] <ddaa> so you can flatline your uplink
[05:49] <popey> why log a second bug #83586 then link it to 83581 when 83581 already existed?
[05:49] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 83586 in launchpad-support-tracker "Details portlet has confusing labels" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83586 - Assigned to Francis J. Lacoste (flacoste)
[05:49] <Nafallo> hmm. sounds ugly :-P
[05:49] <ddaa> Nafallo: and then push to set up the .bzr/branch right
[05:50] <ddaa> Nafallo: I said it was a hack :)
[05:50] <Nafallo> hehe. indeed :-)
[05:50] <flacoste> popey: i filed 83586 after an IRC discussion, 84581 only came to my attention afterwards
[05:50] <popey> it was posted in here just before ddaa mentioned it
[05:51] <flacoste> and I made the former a duplicate of the later because it documents another problem with another label
[05:51] <popey> at 15:55 he talked about it
[05:51] <popey> a few mins after it arrived here
[05:51] <popey> *shrugs*
[05:51] <ddaa> flacoste: I mentioned it after I saw popey's bug report :)
[05:51] <flacoste> popey: yeah, my bad, i didn't read the scrollback but responded to ddaa ping
[05:51] <flacoste> sorry for the confusion
[05:52] <popey> tis okay by me :)
[05:52] <popey> it was the ops first bug report
[05:52] <popey> didn't think he was expecting it to be instantly obsoleted
[05:52] <popey> ooo congrats!
[05:53] <popey> boy or girl?
[05:53] <flacoste> boy, he's called Jules
[05:53] <popey> first one?
[05:53] <flacoste> yep
[05:53] <popey> \o/
[05:53] <popey> "well done" I think is the appropriate thing to say :)
[05:53] <flacoste> thanks, it's joyous bumby ride
[05:53] <popey> isn't it just :)
[05:54] <flacoste> popey, you are yourself a father I read from your page?
[05:54] <popey> yus
[05:54] <popey> two off
[05:55] <popey> the full set
[05:55] <flacoste> a boy and a girl?
[05:55] <popey> yus
[05:55] <popey> Sophie and Sam
[05:55] <flacoste> how old are they?
[05:55] <popey> Sophie is 3, Sam is 5 months
[05:55] <flacoste> wow, so you're are also under sleep deprivation
[05:55] <popey> Sam has the dubious honour of having a geek acronym for his initials - Sam Michael Pope -> SMP :)
[05:55] <flacoste> lol
[05:56] <popey> a little
[05:56] <popey> (I contrived the acronym :) )
[05:56] <popey> wifey didn't know
[05:56] <popey> she does now, too late \o/
[05:56] <flacoste> lol
[06:15] <kiko> hiii
[06:29] <carlos> see you!
[07:29] <mpt> Goooooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!
[07:30] <LaserJock> good morning to you mpt 
[08:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83613 in launchpad "Last location bar item shouldn't be a link if you're there already" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83613
[08:49] <jays> My name is Jay Sulzberger.
[08:50] <jays> I just tried to set up a wikipage at the Ubuntu wiki.
[08:50] <jays> I joined and got my launchpad login identity.
[08:50] <jays> I tried to edit a page at the Wiki, and I now know I am asking the worng folk.
[08:51] <jays> I tried the wikiname JayS but apparently the wiki does not like the short traing string, consisting only of S, because I got no wikipage home page set up automatically.
[08:52] <LaserJock> it won't set it up automatically I don't think
[08:52] <jays> I will ask on the UBUNTU irc channel.
[08:52] <LaserJock> you went to wiki.ubuntu.com/JayS ?
[08:52] <jays> I tried
[08:52] <LaserJock> and on the lefts side there should be a list of templates?
[08:52] <jays> The page is not there, perhapos it will be created in a few minutes.
[08:53] <LaserJock> no, you need to create it, it doesn't happen magically
[08:53] <jays> Ah, I saw no such thing, let me try, it may take me a minute to get back on irc,
[08:54] <jays> Ah, thanks Laserjock!
[08:54] <jays> I see something and will now fool with it.
[08:54] <jays> I will sign off for now, as soon as I figure out this irc gizmo.
[08:55] <LaserJock> :-)
[08:57] <thumper> kiko: no longer evil?
[09:00] <mpt> He ran out of evilness
[09:01] <LaserJock> is that possible?
[09:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83615 in launchpad "Remember expanded/collapsed portlet states with cookies" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83615
[09:19] <jays> Well, I edited the page, the page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JayS exists, but no link was created automatically to the page from the string JayS on 
[09:19] <jays> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuConInstallfest
[09:20] <mdke> JayS is not a proper link. You need to use ["JayS"] 
[09:20] <mdke> see HelpOnEditing for more information, it's not #launchpad related
[09:20] <jays> Ah, thanks!
[09:21] <jays> We Lispers always miss most syntax ;)
[09:22] <jays> It worked.
[09:22] <jays> Thanks mdke!
[09:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83616 in soyuz "IHasBuildRecords should support browsing by time" [Medium,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83616
[09:37] <kiko> thumper!
[09:37] <kiko> just the man I wanted to chat with
[09:37] <kiko> thumper, I did some little dbschema rearrangement
[09:37] <kiko> and I wanted to check with you that you are +1 or -1 on it
[09:37] <kiko> thumper, are you game for some review?
[09:38] <thumper> kiko: yeah
[09:38] <thumper> kiko: on phone to ddaa right now :)
[09:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83620 in launchpad "Submit buttons should have consistent position" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83620
[09:40] <kiko> thumper, I'll paste you a link, hang on
[09:49] <lifeless> moin
[10:02] <evil_kiko_fud> thumper: https://sodium.ubuntu.com/~andrew/paste/fileYKrgGw.html
[10:03] <evil_kiko_fud> thumper: that patch splits the infrastructure out of lp/dbschema, but leave a compatibility shim in.
[10:31] <kiko> thumper, long phone call eh?
[10:32] <thumper> kiko: yes
[10:32] <thumper> kiko: I have something for you to look at too
[10:39] <kiko> shiny
[10:39] <kiko> thumper, I am MIA in 20 minutes
[10:39] <kiko> so make it fast