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UbugtuNew bug: #83497 in Ubuntu "Firefox plugin installer crashes- 7.04 Herd 3" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8349712:15
UbugtuNew bug: #83498 in quicksynergy (universe) "Quicksynergy should minimize to Notification Area" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8349812:20
UbugtuNew bug: #83499 in Ubuntu "Beryl-XGL crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8349912:20
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UbugtuNew bug: #83500 in evolution (main) "evolution expanding exchange aliases." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8350012:25
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UbugtuNew bug: #83501 in gnome-session (main) "X session lasts less than 10 seconds" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8350112:30
UbugtuNew bug: #83502 in Ubuntu "beryl crashes on start up" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8350212:30
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UbugtuNew bug: #83504 in linux-meta (main) "Apple IR not working anymore" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8350401:01
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UbugtuNew bug: #83505 in postgresql-8.1 (main) "Breakage in Feb 5 security update" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8350501:20
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UbugtuNew bug: #83506 in penguintv (universe) "No way to check / fix broken RSS feed URLs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8350602:21
yuriyhi what would be the next step for bug 8245502:21
UbugtuMalone bug 82455 in synce-kde "synce broken after kde 3.5.6 upgrade" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8245502:21
Hobbseeyuriy: i can rebuild here02:28
Hobbseeyuriy: rebuild02:30
Hobbsee-d + t02:30
UbugtuNew bug: #83507 in zabbix (universe) "please sync zabbix (1:1.1.4-8) from unstable/main to universe" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8350702:31
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UbugtuNew bug: #83508 in zabbix (universe) "Buffer overflow in ZABBIX before 1.1.5 has unknown impact and attack vectors related to "SNMP IP addresses."" [Unknown,Unknown]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8350802:35
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UbugtuNew bug: #83509 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Z61t snd_intel_hda dosen't play after resume, and consequent reboots" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8350902:55
UbugtuNew bug: #83510 in Ubuntu "Creative Live Pro Webcam isn't recognized" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8351003:05
UbugtuNew bug: #83511 in Ubuntu "Ultrabay hotplug not working on z61t" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8351103:05
UbugtuNew bug: #83512 in Ubuntu "Regression: kernel loads pcspkr module even when blacklisted" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8351203:10
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UbugtuNew bug: #83514 in Ubuntu "A bunch of hardware problems that used to work in Herd 2 of Ubuntu 7.04" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8351403:25
UbugtuNew bug: #83515 in amarok (main) "amarok 1.4.5 package is not compiled with ipod support" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8351503:35
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UbugtuNew bug: #83516 in gnome-app-install (main) "gnome-app-install dependency in Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8351603:41
UbugtuNew bug: #83517 in egroupware (universe) "Wishlist: Include eGroupWare 1.4 in Feisty, if stable enough" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8351703:55
UbugtuNew bug: #83518 in mythplugins (multiverse) "Unable to initialize plugin 'mythvideo'." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8351804:31
UbugtuNew bug: #83519 in postgresql-8.1 (main) "postgresql update breaks check constraints" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8351904:31
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UbugtuNew bug: #83520 in kde-systemsettings (main) "[Feisty]  Kubuntu System Settings has improperly formatted text" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8352005:01
UbugtuNew bug: #83521 in avahi (main) "feisty avahi-autoipd fails on fopen()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8352105:01
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UbugtuNew bug: #83522 in synaptic (main) "synaptic ankward proxy support" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8352205:06
UbugtuNew bug: #83524 in libgalago-gtk (universe) "[Sync Request]  libgalago-gtk 0.5.0-1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8352405:11
UbugtuNew bug: #83525 in xubuntu-docs (main) "Listed location of "Terminal" is incorrect" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8352505:21
UbugtuNew bug: #83526 in anjuta (universe) "Wrong version of anjuta in feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8352605:45
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UbugtuNew bug: #83527 in gnome-mount (main) "Inconsistant Mount Points" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8352705:55
UbugtuNew bug: #83528 in lilypond (universe) "Crash on pdf creation in Ubuntu 6.10" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8352806:15
UbugtuNew bug: #83529 in Ubuntu "Image shift when redrawing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8352906:15
UbugtuNew bug: #83530 in rhythmbox "rhythmbox crashes when updating some podcast feeds" [Unknown,Unknown]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8353006:25
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UbugtuNew bug: #83531 in Ubuntu "CD ROM check menu item of boot loader boots to system instead of checking CD (Kubuntu Feisty Herd 3 AMD64) " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8353106:55
UbugtuNew bug: #83532 in java-package (multiverse) "Scripts for making a .deb don't support newest release of IBM Java on (at least) Dapper PPC." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8353207:25
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UbugtuNew bug: #83533 in Ubuntu "Beryl-xgl crashes on start after last automatic update" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8353308:11
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UbugtuNew bug: #83534 in gnupg (main) "gnupg doesn't show a success message after I uploaded a key to a keyserver" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8353408:40
UbugtuNew bug: #83536 in Ubuntu "X.org crashes when scrolling in Firefox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8353608:45
UbugtuNew bug: #83537 in Ubuntu "beryl crashes on start-up" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8353708:50
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dholbachgood morning08:55
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cowbudhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/82335 I might be blind but is there a reason why I can't confirm this bug?08:57
UbugtuMalone bug 82335 in network-manager "network-manager should not set offline mode when it manages no device" [High,Unconfirmed] 08:57
cowbudyes thank you ubugtu08:57
cowbuddid the rules change with confirming bugs or what?08:58
cowbud?09:02
cowbudmoo09:02
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UbugtuNew bug: #83538 in kdevelop (universe) "file is refreshed automatically when changed on disk" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8353809:21
UbugtuNew bug: #83539 in kqemu (multiverse) "Update to GPL'ed 1.3pre10" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8353909:26
cowbudanyone awake?09:33
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UbugtuNew bug: #83540 in Ubuntu "Fan overheat on notebook A2 with AMD athlon 64 and feisty i386" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8354010:05
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dholbachhey mvo10:07
mvohey dholbach!10:08
mvoyou had a good weekend?10:08
dholbachyeah absolutely - thanks :)10:08
mvo!10:08
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UbugtuNew bug: #83541 in compiz (universe) "Compiz just kills X session" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8354110:20
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elmargolhi I can't start network-manager on eggy :(10:39
elmargolsorry network-admin10:39
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seb128elmargol: "can't start" is not enough details to get a reply10:49
elmargoli upload the backtrace10:49
elmargolseb128: http://rafb.net/p/wMcU7z78.html10:50
seb128ah, it crashes10:51
seb128that's different of "can't start"10:51
seb128elmargol: looks like http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35453610:51
UbugtuGnome bug 354536 in network-admin "crash in Networking: trying to get the wetwor..." [Critical,Resolved: notgnome] 10:52
elmargolseb128: is there a fix for this?10:55
seb128no10:55
seb128the bug has been closed as NOTGNOME,and I'm not sure that not a GNOME bug10:55
seb128it needs to be debugged by somebody getting the problem10:55
elmargolhow can I help?10:56
seb128install gnome-system-tools-dbgsym libglib2.0-0-dbg libgtk2.0-0-dbg11:01
seb128and get a new backtrace11:01
elmargoldo i have to build those packages on my own?11:03
seb128no11:05
UbugtuNew bug: #83542 in libwpd (main) "sync request" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8354211:06
seb128I would say "build debug packages for ..." if that was things to build ;)11:06
elmargolI don't have gnome-system-tools-dbgsym on my repositories11:06
seb128elmargol: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash11:06
elmargolk11:07
elmargolThe following packages have unmet dependencies:  gnome-system-tools-dbgsym: Depends: gnome-system-tools (= 2.15.5-0ubuntu2) but 2.15.5-0ubuntu5 is to be installed11:10
UbugtuNew bug: #83543 in nautilus-cd-burner (main) "Generates Windows incompatible CDs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8354311:16
elmargolHave to eat now, bbl11:17
seb128elmargol: ok, that's because there is no dbgsym for edgy-proposed and maybe edgy-updates, you might need to rebuild the package11:20
UbugtuNew bug: #83544 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "feisty kernel 2.6.20-6-generic does not contain DSDT patch as dapper and edgy did" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8354411:25
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UbugtuNew bug: #83545 in Ubuntu "Firefox / Java crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8354511:41
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UbugtuNew bug: #83546 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "2.6.17-10-generic does not find sata drive" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8354612:05
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UbugtuNew bug: #73476 in edgy-backports "backport curl 7.15.5 from Feisty to Edgy (dup-of: 73447)" [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7347612:11
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elmargolseb128: I can't build the package :( "collect2: ld returned 1 exit status"12:21
elmargolhttp://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/7330/12:21
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UbugtuNew bug: #83547 in gnome-power "Multiple mouse battery entries after suspend/resume cycle" [Unknown,Unknown]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8354712:26
seb128elmargol: apt-get build-dep gnome-system-tools to install the Build-Depends required12:27
elmargolseb128: no difference12:28
seb128elmargol: no difference what?12:28
elmargolI have every build-dep package installed...12:29
seb128that would be really weird12:29
seb128the package builds fine everywhere else12:29
elmargolmaybe something on my system is broken?12:30
seb128could be12:30
seb128no indication that's the case though12:30
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seb128maybe try downgrading gnome-system-tools to the edgy version12:30
seb128then you can install the dbgsym and you don't need to build the package12:31
seb128apt-get install gnome-system-tools/edgy12:31
elmargolk i do apt-get install gnome-system-tools/edgy liboobs-1-2/edgy system-tools-backends/edgy12:32
elmargolseb128: the edgy version of network-admin doesn't crash12:34
seb128that's the same code12:34
seb128it has to crash ;)12:34
seb128how do you run network-admin?12:34
elmargoli select it from the menu12:35
elmargolSystem -> Admin -> Network12:35
seb128does "sudo network-admin" from a command line crash?12:35
elmargolyes12:35
seb128ok, good12:35
elmargolhttp://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/7331/12:36
seb128elmargol: could you install libglib2.0-0-dbg and get a backtrace with "bt full"?12:38
elmargolk12:38
seb128ah12:38
seb128maybe no need12:38
seb128location = (gchar *) 0x012:38
seb128might be the problem12:38
UbugtuNew bug: #83549 in zenity (main) "zenity zenity --text-info --editable crashes on 56K text file on stdin" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8354912:40
UbugtuNew bug: #83550 in Ubuntu "impossible to de-activate screensaver " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8355012:40
seb128elmargol: thank you, that might be useful enough to fix it. I'll ping you again if upstream needs other details about that12:44
elmargolDo I have to backup some settings?12:44
UbugtuNew bug: #83551 in rhythmbox "python plugins don't work in amd64" [Unknown,Unknown]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8355112:45
seb128elmargol: do you have something to /root/.gnome2/network-admin-locations ?12:46
elmargolI have 2 files there12:47
seb128does moving them somewhere else (keep them, they can be useful for debug) fix the crash?12:47
elmargolyes!12:49
elmargolremoving the [general]  part of the config fixed the problem12:54
gnomefreakwhen did we start reporting bugs on LP about licencing agreements? shouldnt they just be talked about at TB meetings?12:55
seb128elmargol: what was to that part?12:56
UbugtuNew bug: #83552 in totem (main) "totem crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8355201:01
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elmargolseb128: static-hosts=127.0.0.1;localhost;foo.com,127.0.1.1;amdk8.lan;amdk8,::1;ip6-localhost;ip6-loopback,fe00::0;ip6-localnet,ff00::0;ip6-mcastprefix,ff02::1;ip6-allnodes,ff02::2;ip6-allrouters,ff02::3;ip6-allhosts,01:08
elmargoli think the foo.com part causes the problem01:08
seb128could you try to get a valgrind log also01:09
seb128copy the config back01:09
seb128install the valgrind package01:09
seb128https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valgrind has instructions about that01:09
seb128lunch time, I'll read the chan after lunch01:10
seb128thank you for the work on that01:10
seb128bbl01:10
elmargolk i try it01:10
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UbugtuNew bug: #83553 in ubuntu-meta (main) "redundant updating of packages" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8355301:25
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seb128elmargol: any luck with the valgrind log?01:40
elmargolyes where can I upload it?01:40
seb128can you send it with the config files by mail? replace the private data from the config first though (like passwords, etc)?01:42
seb128to carlosg@gnome.org and seb128@ubuntu.com01:42
elmargolok give me the adress01:42
seb128carlosg is upstream01:42
elmargolmail is out01:47
seb128elmargol: thank you01:47
UbugtuNew bug: #83557 in emerald-themes (universe) "Emerald Theme manager" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8355701:50
UbugtuNew bug: #83555 in python2.5 (main) "[apport]  python2.5 crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8355501:51
UbugtuNew bug: #83556 in apport (main) "[apport]  apport-gtk crashed with IndexError in create_crash_bug_title()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8355601:51
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UbugtuNew bug: #83558 in kdebase (main) "[kde 3.5.6]  konqueror: changes to column order and width persist across view modes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8355802:01
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UbugtuNew bug: #83559 in texlive-base (universe) "Gzipping documentation makes no sense" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8355902:10
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UbugtuNew bug: #83560 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "compilation stops " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8356002:20
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UbugtuNew bug: #83561 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  update-manager crashed with SystemError in requiredDownload()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8356102:25
UbugtuNew bug: #83562 in nautilus (main) "NAutilus crashed when transfering 4,3 Go from external hard disk in usb2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8356202:25
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UbugtuNew bug: #83563 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  update-manager crashed with NameError in init_proxy()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8356302:45
UbugtuNew bug: #83564 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashes on click to focus" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8356402:56
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UbugtuNew bug: #83565 in Ubuntu "please sync libx86" [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8356503:10
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alefterisI am trying to follow this guide http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToFix but the package build-dep that is mentioned in the quide does not exist in the repos.. Is it replaced by something else? Or is this guide to old?03:10
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UbugtuNew bug: #83566 in apport (main) "Checks mtime of interpreter, not scripts" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8356603:16
UbugtuNew bug: #83567 in dpkg (main) "dpkg -l doesn't display the epoch" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8356703:30
UbugtuNew bug: #83568 in gnumeric (main) "amd64 version of gnumeric does not read or write excel format" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8356803:41
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UbugtuNew bug: #83571 in xorg (main) "[Feisty]  Middle click fails with no action" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8357103:55
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UbugtuNew bug: #83569 in Ubuntu "[feisty] launch (both) gnome and kde" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8356904:00
UbugtuNew bug: #83572 in xfce4-terminal (main) "[Feisty]  xfce4-terminal paints very slowly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8357204:00
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UbugtuNew bug: #83573 in nautilus-cd-burner (main) "Filename not quoted when calling cdrecord" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8357304:05
UbugtuNew bug: #83574 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Kernel does not boot without pci=nommconf parameter" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8357404:06
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UbugtuNew bug: #83575 in gnome-network (universe) "Network doesn't strat properly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8357504:11
UbugtuNew bug: #83576 in Ubuntu "Headphone not detected on boot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8357604:26
UbugtuNew bug: #83577 in Ubuntu "LCD brightness control very poor" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8357704:35
UbugtuNew bug: #83578 in Ubuntu "when X server is configured with 16bit color firefox crashes on some pages" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8357804:41
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UbugtuNew bug: #83579 in Ubuntu "Volume down key changing pan setting" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8357904:45
UbugtuNew bug: #83580 in mplayer (multiverse) "mplayer compiled without mp3 support" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8358004:45
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Nafallo!info 915resolution feisty04:55
ubotu915resolution: resolution modification tool for Intel graphic chipset. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2-9ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 13 kB, installed size 124 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)04:55
UbugtuNew bug: #83582 in Ubuntu "Edgy AMD64 2.6.20-6-lowlatency kernel and boot errors" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8358204:55
UbugtuNew bug: #83583 in gnome-app-install (main) "Not able to upgrade gnome-app-install in feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8358304:55
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UbugtuNew bug: #83584 in rhythmbox (main) "Retrieving data from DAAP shares doesn't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8358405:00
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UbugtuNew bug: #83585 in xchat (universe) "XChat uses Opera for everything" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8358505:05
UbugtuNew bug: #83587 in sane-backends (main) "HP ScanJet 5300C doesn't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8358705:20
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fernandohi all05:29
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UbugtuNew bug: #83591 in Ubuntu "no internet with chello austria cablemodems" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8359105:41
UbugtuNew bug: #83592 in update-manager (main) "upgrading ububntu crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8359205:41
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UbugtuNew bug: #83593 in alsaplayer (universe) "All package removed from adept during "alsaplayer-esd" installation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8359305:46
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UbugtuNew bug: #83595 in Ubuntu "Feisty Herd 3, BUG: soft lockup on CPU#0" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8359506:10
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UbugtuNew bug: #83596 in dhcpdump (universe) "dhcpdump Segmentation fault" [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8359606:25
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UbugtuNew bug: #83594 in azureus "[feisty] azureus wont open after update of java" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8359406:46
dholbachsfllaw, bdmurray: you two should be the admins of ubuntu-qa06:50
UbugtuNew bug: #83597 in Ubuntu "Unknown device: x11alpha " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8359706:51
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dholbachsfllaw: can you arrange that? so I can 'step down'?06:51
sfllawdholbach: Absolutely.06:51
sfllawI'll keep you on, though.06:51
dholbachi feel I'm taking care of too many teams already :)06:52
sfllawbdmurray: Do you have an Ubuntu Wiki page?06:52
sfllawdholbach: BugSquad for bdmurray seems reasonable as well.06:53
dholbachyeah06:53
sfllawbdmurray: I'm taking off your expiration date.06:54
gnomefreakbdmurray: im gonna email david about what to look for in crash reports sometime today06:54
sfllawFresh forever.06:54
dholbachbdmurray, sfllaw: done06:54
sfllawbdmurray, dholbach: Done.06:54
sfllawUpdated UbuntuQA page as well.06:54
gnomefreakwho wrote/edits the packaging guide?06:55
dholbachgnomefreak: LaserJock06:56
UbugtuNew bug: #83598 in cupsys (main) "USB back-channel bug for minolta printer" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8359806:56
gnomefreakok will ping him than smack him ty :)06:56
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bdmurraysfllaw: no wiki page yet06:57
sfllawI've assumed BrianMurray.06:57
sfllawbdmurray: You might want to make a short one.06:58
bdmurrayI could use mailing list admin passwords too sometime.06:58
sfllawYeah.06:58
sfllawLet's see.06:58
sfllawI'll dig them out and you can add yourself as an admin.06:58
sfllawThen you can get fun "toss out spam" e-mails too.06:58
dholbachbdmurray: I mailed about bughelper and do ubuntu-bugsquad@ now06:58
dholbachbdmurray: you are already06:59
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dholbachbdmurray: mailed you the mailing list password06:59
bdmurrayRight, I am but don't have the password afaik.  I would have approved my post yesterday. ;)06:59
sfllawHa.06:59
bdmurraydholbach: cool thanks06:59
seb128what team membership is required for changing bug settings? ubuntu-qa or bugsquad?06:59
dholbachseb128: the former06:59
dholbachbdmurray: anytime06:59
bdmurrayubuntu-qa06:59
sfllawbdmurray, dholbach: ubuntu-bugsquad-announce exists now.07:00
dholbachsfllaw: can you sign us up and make us admins?07:00
sfllawYes.07:00
sfllawSo...07:00
dholbachi'll write a bughelper report later today07:00
sfllawWe talked about making all ubuntu-bugsquad members mandatory members.07:00
seb128bdmurray: thank you07:01
sfllawShall we also subscribe ubuntu-devel-announce?07:01
dholbachthey'll have to get approved anyway07:01
sfllawAnd what about these ISO-testing fellows?07:01
sfllawWe originally assumed that Ubuntu QA was a strict subset of BugSquad.07:01
sfllawBut that won't be the case if I approve pochu.07:02
pochuhi!07:02
coNPpochu is member of bugsquad, isn't he?07:02
coNPhey pochu07:02
pochuhi guys!07:02
pochuI heard my name :)07:03
pochuI'm a member of bugsquad, sure :)07:03
pochuwhat are you planning? :)07:03
sfllawOh.07:03
sfllawWho was it that didn't want to be?07:03
sfllawI'm confused.07:03
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sfllawSomeone from the ISO testing team.07:04
pochusfllaw: who are you talking to? I'm also confused ;)07:04
pochuhehe07:04
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sfllawAh, manchicken.07:08
bdmurraysfllaw: that sounds right07:09
bdmurrayI thought he only wanted to modify his own bugs though07:09
sfllawIs he upstream?07:09
sfllawIs that why?07:09
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sfllawHey, does anyone want to join ubuntu-qa today?07:10
UbugtuNew bug: #83599 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "2.6.20-6-powerpc panic on PowerBook G4" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8359907:10
Nafallosfllaw: do I have to? :-)07:10
pochusfllaw: me :)07:11
coNPhey, pochu .07:11
coNP :)07:11
pochu:D07:11
sfllawNafallo: I don't force anyone to do anything they don't want to.07:11
pochu:)07:11
sfllawNafallo: But you'll get a nifty emblem.07:11
pochuhehe07:11
sfllawNafallo: And street cred when you're helping people triage.07:11
Nafallosfllaw: I got that from ubuntu-dev already :-)07:11
coNPI got that emlen. It is really cool ;)07:11
sfllawNafallo: Developers, surprisingly, often don't know the triage procedure.  :)07:12
sfllawpochu: I just looked through your list of bugs.07:12
sfllawpochu: You agreed to conditions 1 & 2 already?07:12
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gnomefreaksfllaw: devels already have access to changing  importance right?07:12
pochusfllaw: sure07:12
sfllawgnomefreak: Indeed.07:12
gnomefreakk ty07:12
sfllawpochu: Welcome to the team!07:12
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gnomefreaki have a few good canadites for it they just dont seem around07:13
Nafallosfllaw: hehe. indeed. I often just fix bugs, add a branch to it, merge and upload. looking at mplayer today :-).07:13
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sfllawYour first responsibility is to mark the Importance of your assigned bugs.  :)07:13
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sfllawThat's great!07:13
pochu:)07:13
sfllawFixing bugs is awesome.07:13
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pochu(its a joke ;)07:13
pochuhehe07:13
Nafalloyay! :-)07:13
sfllawActually, setting Importance is an easy thing for people to do.07:13
gnomefreakyou use wishlist more than anything else :)07:14
sfllawSometimes, when I'm bored, I'll just find bugs which are Confirmed that have no importance and no assignee.07:14
Nafallosfllaw: I often subscribe people or confirm things I've seen on my own laptop :-).07:14
Nafallosfllaw: and ask users for followups...07:14
sfllawNafallo: I spend a lot of time Confirming incomplete bugs by providing debug information.07:15
sfllawIt's a very useful service.07:15
Nafallosfllaw: you rock! :-)07:15
sfllawJust doing my job.07:15
Nafallothat to ;-)07:15
sfllawhttp://tinyurl.com/2wuq5907:16
pochudone :)07:16
sfllaw^^^ Help sort bugs that people think are unimportant.07:16
sfllawpochu: Yay!  \o/07:16
Nafallomvo: here?07:17
AlexLatchfordIm about now gnomefreak07:17
sfllawAlexLatchford: Hi!07:17
AlexLatchfordhowdy sfllaw, I applied to join the QA Team earlier today07:17
mvoNafallo: yes07:18
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sfllawAlexLatchford: Have you read the UbuntuQA page?07:18
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UbugtuMalone bug 1 in ichthux "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107:18
AlexLatchfordbeen working with the Mozilla Team for the last month trying to hammer down the number of firefox and thunderbird bugs07:18
sfllawAlexLatchford: Very nice.07:18
gnomefreakAlexLatchford: btw we have a lot of work to do :( im testing a chroot for apport-retrace07:19
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AlexLatchfordaha nice07:19
Nafallomvo: you know about a bug in gdebi (not -gtk) where "y" is translated to "j" and "j" means "n"? :-)07:19
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sfllawAlexLatchford: Still, have you read the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuQA page?07:20
sfllawIt lists the simple requirements for joining.07:20
AlexLatchfordyeah ive been through the Triaging page and the Importance list several times now07:20
mvoNafallo: is that a bug in feisty? or in edgy?07:21
AlexLatchfordunderstand it all I believe07:21
Nafallomvo: feisty. haven't tried edgy to be honest :-)07:21
mvoNafallo: IIRC I fixed a issue like this recently in feisty, but I may be wrong and the fix does not work07:21
mvoNafallo: ok :)07:21
dholbachyou think I should post the bughelper report to ubuntu-devel@ too?07:22
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Nafallodholbach: I can't see how it would hurt :-)07:23
UbugtuNew bug: #83600 in apport (main) "Apport fails to pipe core dump" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8360007:25
sfllawAlexLatchford: I notice that you don't have any assigned bugs, you know that Needs Info should be assigned to you when you set it?07:25
AlexLatchfordI have been working under the Mozilla Policy to assign it to the Mozilla Team07:26
mvoNafallo: thanks, found and fixed07:26
AlexLatchfordjust this week I worked through the backlog of bugs I had assigned to me and reassigned them to the Mozilla Team along with working on them07:26
Nafallomvo: want me to try it?07:26
mvoNafallo: you will have to check out the bzr tree and update the translation.  if that is ok with you, sure :)07:27
sfllawAlexLatchford: Oy.07:27
sfllawAlexLatchford: Can you normalize it with the standard Bugs/HowToTriage policy?07:28
sfllawAlexLatchford: It's very nice to be able to see, at a glance, which bugs you're responsible for.07:28
Nafallomvo: where are the branches? :-)07:29
AlexLatchfordsfllaw: Yeah sure, (I am not sure what normalise in this context means, but I am assuming that it means from now on)07:29
sfllawAlexLatchford: We ask people to Assign themselves to Needs Info bugs, and then unassign on Confirmed.07:30
sfllawThat way, you can look at your list of +assignedbugs and see which ones you ought to ping people about.07:30
sfllawOften, your list of +subscribedbugs can get really huge.07:30
AlexLatchfordYeah ok07:31
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sfllawAlexLatchford: Neat!07:31
AlexLatchfordI will also bring this up at the Mozilla Team Mailing list also07:31
sfllawAlexLatchford: Please do.07:31
sfllawIt works quite well for us in BugSquad.07:31
sfllawI'll approve you in UbuntuQA.07:32
sfllawWelcome!07:32
AlexLatchfordyeah, it was working for me before07:32
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AlexLatchfordthanks alot07:32
AlexLatchford:)07:32
=== sfllaw hugs AlexLatchford.
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sfllawOK, food time.07:32
pochu:)07:32
Nafallomvo: nm, think I found it.07:36
gnomefreakAlexLatchford: you make it?07:38
AlexLatchfordbelieve so :)07:38
gnomefreakyou did07:39
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gnomefreaksfllaw: when you get back please let me know i have a request on assigning bugs07:40
sfllawgnomefreak: Back.07:43
Nafallomvo: revno 134 is the last one I got. I don't think that's correct :-/07:43
gnomefreaksfllaw: damn that was fast07:43
gnomefreaksfllaw: can we get people to assign mozillateam to firefox/thunderbird bugs?07:43
sfllawI went downstairs for a quick sandwich.07:43
sfllawAssign or subscribe?07:44
gnomefreakso we can better track them07:44
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gnomefreakassign07:44
sfllawI think you want a subscription there, assignment means something different.07:44
gnomefreaksfllaw: we are gonna be the ones fixing them and tagging them afaik07:44
sfllawDoes Mozilla Team automatically get subscribed to Mozilla packages?07:44
gnomefreakyes07:45
UbugtuNew bug: #83602 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) ""no screen found" with fglrx; just dist-upgraded from edgy to feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8360207:45
UbugtuNew bug: #83603 in Ubuntu "Crash when chosing "Close #2 Animation"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8360307:45
sfllawI don't want to be confrontational, so don't take it this way, but how do you tell who is working specifically on which bug?07:46
sfllawWe normally use Assignment to mean "I am fixing it."07:46
sfllawAnd you can get a list of Mozilla Team subscribed bugs.07:46
gnomefreaksfllaw: we have a team and a maintainer for ubuntu mozilla07:47
mvoNafallo: there should be r135. but it usually take some minutes before a branch becomes available on a pulic mirror07:47
gnomefreakim assuming he will be doing most of patching and i think me and him will be doing the rebuilding07:47
Nafallomvo: but the supermirror one is correct?07:48
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sfllawgnomefreak: Hmm.  So what does the assignment mean?  As in, how is it distinct from the automatic subscription?07:50
UbugtuNew bug: #83604 in ntp (main) "ntpdate 1:4.2.2.p4+dfsg-1ubuntu2 has a flawed configuration file." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8360407:50
gnomefreaksfllaw: iirc the triagers are assigning bugs to themselves because theya re asking for more info right?07:51
sfllawgnomefreak: Right, and then they Unassign afterwards.07:51
gnomefreaksfllaw: i have bugs back from breezy that iam workiong on and upward how does our ubuntu maintianer know to fix a bug if assign to joey07:51
sfllawSo you can search for Confirmed & Assigned: Nobody.07:52
gnomefreakand we are getting ready to start retracing all crash reports07:52
sfllawgnomefreak: Because after it gets past Needs Info, the instructions say to assign to Nobody.07:52
gnomefreaksfllaw: but they are not adbiding by the 30+ day needsinfo close bug07:53
gnomefreakthey == some07:53
sfllawSo, let's say it's a real bug and ready to be fixed, so I set Status: Confirmed, Importance: Something, Assigned: Nobody.07:53
sfllawHmm, so I'm confused about how your workflow is supposed to go.07:53
sfllawDo you want them to set Status: Confirmed, Importance: Something, Assigned: Mozilla Team?07:54
sfllawOr is this during the Needs Info step?07:54
gnomefreaksfllaw: im setting up a chroot atm but we will be running through bugs on ff and tb and for any incomplete crashreport we are gonna be downloading crashreport and retracing them07:55
sfllawgnomefreak: That's a great plan!07:55
gnomefreakso all the ones we do people are gonna be removed from the bugs and i dont want people to get pissed because they cant trace it on LP07:55
gnomefreakgreat plan hard as crap and time consuming :)07:56
sfllawWhy would people get upset?07:56
sfllawYou're going to Confirm the bug and remove someone's assignment, right?07:56
sfllawOr am I confused?07:56
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gnomefreaksfllaw: yes07:56
sfllawOh man, please unbefuddle me.07:56
=== gnomefreak doesnt want to step on triagers toes is my only thing. if they are working on a bug and one of us interrupts his work because we need more info that they are not asking for
gnomefreak.win 2007:58
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sfllawgnomefreak: Oh.  When you update the bug, just put a very nice note in the comment saying that you retraced it and now it's Confirmed.07:58
sfllawI do that and have had no complaints yet.07:58
fernandohi dholbach07:58
gnomefreakok  will do it07:59
sfllawYay!07:59
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sfllawThanks for being considerate!07:59
gnomefreakthank you too :)08:00
did448Hi, about but 83597, gs-esp has been replaced by gs-esp-x, it's an update bug or it needs a dist-upgrade? ie before with gs-esp you got X11 output now you need gs-esp-x08:00
sfllawdid448: Looking.08:00
sfllawdid448: Ah.08:02
sfllawdid448: It's a packaging bug in evince _and_ gs-esp.08:02
sfllawThe gs-esp binary package's description needs to mention that you need gs-esp-x for X11.  It currently lies about that.08:02
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dholbachcan somebody check 'writing clue files'?08:04
sfllawThe evince package needs to Depends: on gs-esp-x | gs08:04
sfllawdid448: Does that make sense?08:04
did448sfllaw: I'm afraid a lot of packages need gs-esp-x now.08:04
did448sfllaw: Yes it does.08:05
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UbugtuNew bug: #83605 in matplotlib (universe) "import failure, missing dependency" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8360508:06
bdmurraydholbach: does using bugxml to add clues work?  I thought I had an issue with it earlier.08:07
dholbachbdmurray: it works for me - can you tell me what the problem is?08:08
coNPShould I subscribe someone (like motu-sponsors by bugs in MOTU) if I prepared a fix for bug 83549? Or just unassign myself?08:08
UbugtuMalone bug 83549 in zenity "zenity zenity --text-info --editable crashes on 56K text file on stdin" [Unknown,Unknown]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8354908:08
bdmurraydholbach: you might want to add 'bzr add' for new clues08:08
dholbachbdmurray: oh right08:08
dholbachbdmurray: do you add it or shall I do it?08:08
bdmurrayI have not added it, either way is fine.08:09
dholbachI'll just add it - thanks for looking through it.08:09
sfllawcoNP: Looking...08:09
bdmurraydholbach: Also maybe adding something about the dontlist feature when searching for dupes08:09
dholbachah right08:10
bdmurrayPersonally, I add that in after testing that I match on the original bug.08:10
sfllawcoNP: zenity is in main, so you'll want to find an appropriate person to upload the fix.08:10
sfllawdholbach or seb128 can tell you what they'd like you to do.08:11
UbugtuNew bug: #83606 in beryl-settings (universe) "[apport]  beryl-settings crashed with AttributeError in MakeBackendWidgets()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8360608:11
coNPsfllaw: thanks08:11
coNPBy the way, is it known that Ubugtu does not know th proper state and importance of bugs?08:15
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coNPOr what does [Unknown,Unknown]  mean after the bug description?08:15
dholbachbdmurray: done08:15
bdmurrayIt means nothing has been assigned to the bug yet08:15
pochucoNP: you should talk to Seveas08:16
bdmurrayif you query about an old bug it displays properly08:16
coNPWhat does old mean?08:16
bdmurraybug 8287408:16
UbugtuMalone bug 82874 in discover-data "Graphic controller not detected properly on Dimension 9150 for Feisty herd 3" [High,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8287408:16
sfllawcoNP: Undecided?08:16
coNPThis is set [Confirmed, Low]  since some hours?08:16
sfllawcoNP: Ah.08:16
sfllawcoNP: That's because it extracts this from its e-mail notification.08:17
sfllawcoNP: We could screenscrape Launchpad, but...08:17
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bdmurraydholbach: my line 8 is ~/.bughelper/config08:18
bdmurrayif that makes any sense08:18
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coNPsfllaw: I guess it reports the upstream states that are not set yet08:18
dholbachbdmurray: my line 8 says   Edit ~/bughelper/config to contain the path to bughelper-data (you just checked out) in the Local-Packages-Dir: line.08:18
bdmurraydholbach: yeah, I meant it is ~/.bughelper for me08:19
sfllawcoNP: Oh.08:19
sfllawcoNP: That would be humourous.08:19
bdmurraydholbach: on my system08:19
sfllawcoNP: Seveas would know more.08:19
coNPSince I became the mails stating the changes some time ago. Not so important, just wondering :)08:19
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pochubye!08:20
coNPbye pochu08:20
dholbachbye pochu08:20
sfllawpochu: Night.08:20
dholbachbdmurray: oh - haha, ok :)08:20
bdmurraydholbach: I wasn't sure if I am just special.08:20
dholbachno ... it was me that was 'special' ;-)08:21
UbugtuNew bug: #83607 in firefox (main) "firefox won't attach/send jpg's" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8360708:21
UbugtuNew bug: #83608 in evolution (main) "Evolution stopped reading IMAP folders" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8360808:21
bdmurraydholbach: I think step 11 should clarify what to do if 'no'08:22
dholbachbdmurray: 'nothing' :)08:23
dholbachbut I agree it doesn't explain much 'what happens'08:23
UbugtuNew bug: #83609 in k3b (main) "k3b crashes midway through creating dvd image" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8360908:25
UbugtuNew bug: #83611 in kdewebdev (main) "FTP upload method is missing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8361108:31
UbugtuNew bug: #83612 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashes about one minute after closing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8361208:31
coNPdholbach, seb128 can you tell me what should I do with bug 83549?08:32
UbugtuMalone bug 83549 in zenity "zenity zenity --text-info --editable crashes on 56K text file on stdin" [Unknown,Unknown]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8354908:32
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dholbachcoNP: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess :)08:34
coNPdholbach: thanks, sorry for bugging you, I was redirected to you :)08:35
dholbachno problem08:35
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seb128coNP: for upstream bug if you want to do it I would advice opening an upstream bug with your patch08:39
seb128we tend to not upload patched versions when we can get it fixed upstream, wait next version and get it for free then08:40
seb128upstream roll tarballs often enough, like next ones are next monday08:40
coNPseb128: okay, then I send my patch to upstream08:40
seb128thank you08:40
seb128GNOME is sort of a special area08:41
seb128there is no UVF and it's easy to get patches upstream08:41
coNPwhat is UVF?08:41
seb128for other packages which are not likely to get a new version before feisty it's probably interesting to get the package patched08:42
seb128Upstream Version Freeze08:42
seb128we stop getting new version to stabilize08:42
seb128GNOME is not frozen though since we trust the fact that they stabilize versions with their freeze and we want to ship new stable GNOME anyway08:42
coNPOh, sure.08:44
coNPThanks, seb12808:46
seb128coNP: np, thank *you* for working on that patch08:50
coNPOh, now I have 1 point (in GNOME Bugzilla) :)08:50
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seb128coNP: you are launched now ;)08:52
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Nafallomvo: pushed09:12
mvoNafallo: pushed to what branch?09:14
Nafallomvo: ~nafallo/gdebi/ubuntu.svpo09:14
Nafallo:-)09:15
mvoNafallo: great! thanks a lot :)09:15
Nafallono problem :-).09:15
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bddebianBoo09:22
cowbudohh NOES09:24
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UbugtuNew bug: #83617 in Ubuntu "[Feisty]  headphone muted" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8361709:31
UbugtuNew bug: #83618 in gnome-games (main) "gtali 'scores' greyed out' in feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8361809:31
Nafallomvo: pushed again. found some fuzzy strings :-)09:34
mvoNafallo: thanks. it seems like it is not yet available via http, bzr complains that it can't find it09:35
mvoNafallo: but I will keep trying :)09:35
Nafalloodd :-)09:35
Nafallothey should get a SmartServer or something :-P09:36
UbugtuNew bug: #83619 in Ubuntu "[Feisty]  cannot change proxy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8361909:36
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SeveascoNP, howdy09:39
coNPhey Setomido109:40
coNPsorry :)09:40
coNPhey Seveas09:40
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Seveasyou needed to talk to me?09:40
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UbugtuNew bug: #83621 in Ubuntu "[Feisty]  increase volume on keyboard" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8362109:41
UbugtuNew bug: #83622 in firefox (main) "Gros plantage firefox avi aprs clic sur enregistrer cible" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8362209:41
SeveascoNP, where does ubugtu not report the correct state? It would be a bug if that's true :)09:41
coNPbug 8354909:42
UbugtuMalone bug 83549 in zenity "zenity zenity --text-info --editable crashes on 56K text file on stdin" [Unknown,Unknown]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8354909:42
coNPwhich is Confirmed / Low in Ubuntu (but really Unknown / Unknown in Upstream)09:42
SeveasI see09:43
Seveasit's a semi-bug09:43
Seveasthanks for reporting09:43
coNPnp09:44
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coNPSeveas: By the way, why is the ! used as trigger for ubotu? I allways have the feeling that the factoid is negated...09:44
SeveascoNP, heh :)09:44
Seveasbecause % and @ are already used by other functionality of the bots09:45
coNPReally. For the first time it was quite annoying :)09:45
Seveas@reload Bugtracker09:45
Seveasbug 8354909:46
UbugtuMalone bug 83549 in zenity "zenity zenity --text-info --editable crashes on 56K text file on stdin" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8354909:46
Seveasthere we go09:46
Seveasbug 109:46
UbugtuMalone bug 1 in ichthux "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109:46
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cowbudhrmm damn I can't delete comments09:47
cowbudso when I make a fool of myself it is there for ever eh09:47
coNP(I have learnt, that hugging Ubugtu can have unforeseen consequenses)09:47
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cowbudI can't search inside of bugs?09:53
cowbudis that true?09:53
Nafallomvo: seems your fix is not correct anyway.09:58
mvohrm09:59
mvonot good09:59
Nafallomvo: but that might be because the po-files seems to be not installed...09:59
mvooh?09:59
lifelesshi mvo09:59
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mvohello lifeless!09:59
Nafallodpkg -L doesn't give me .mo anyway :-/09:59
lifelessyou pung?09:59
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mvopung?10:00
bdmurrayAnybody know where livecd boot options are documented?10:00
lifelessmy cute past tense of ping10:00
mvoheh :) I did, did you got the stuff I wrote in the /querry?10:00
lifelessyup10:00
lifelesshows tomorrow sounds, around this  time ?10:00
UbugtuNew bug: #83623 in network-manager (main) "NetworkManager hangs with 100% cpu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8362310:01
lifelesstoday I'm uninspired - *tired*10:01
mvolifeless: that sounds good10:01
eroyfevening gentlemen10:01
eroyfhow's life in ubuntu land?10:01
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UbugtuNew bug: #83624 in update-manager (main) "update-manager crash in logout" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8362410:06
Nafalloset seems to be b0rked10:09
Nafallowhat package is that in?10:10
Nafalloshows some script or something10:10
Nafallo22:10 < yeager> +debian -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4468/10:12
Nafallo22:11 < yeager> +ubuntu -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4469/10:13
Nafallosfllaw: care to look at that and confirm?10:13
ajmitchNafallo: what's unusual about it?10:15
UbugtuNew bug: #83626 in gkrellm (universe) "changing order leds in gkleds plugin" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8362610:15
Nafalloajmitch: looked at the URLs?10:15
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ajmitchNafallo: it's just a matter of whether bash completion is turned on or not10:15
Nafalloaha. thanks :-)10:16
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UbugtuNew bug: #83627 in fuse (main) "fuse-utils doesn't include mount.fuse" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8362710:20
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mvoNafallo: all should work now, feel free to merge/test, but I will leave now10:23
mvoNafallo: thanks again for helping with this problem :)10:23
Nafallomvo: oki. thanks :-)10:23
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UbugtuNew bug: #83629 in initramfs-tools (main) "update-initramfs and mkinitramfs should rename into place after creation" [High,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8362910:25
UbugtuNew bug: #83630 in compiz (universe) "update to current git" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8363010:25
UbugtuNew bug: #83628 in imagemagick (main) "Stuff from imagemagick ends up as environment variables" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8362810:26
sfllawNafallo: Looking.10:26
Nafallosfllaw: the last bug should be about that :-)10:27
Nafallosfllaw: 8362810:27
sfllawsfllaw: I'm confused as to why this is a bug...10:28
sfllawsfllaw: The bug filer did not say what the expected result is.10:28
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Nafallosfllaw: should I ask yeager to join? :-)10:29
Nafallosfllaw: I don't really care about it personally, but he seems to do.10:29
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sfllawyeager: Hello.  you just reported bug 83628?10:31
UbugtuMalone bug 83628 in imagemagick "Stuff from imagemagick ends up as environment variables" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8362810:31
yeagersfllaw, correct10:31
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sfllawyeager: It's a little incomplete.  Could you tell me what the expected result is?10:31
yeagersfllaw, on my Debian box, the output from 'set' is just 48 rows10:32
yeagersfllaw, on my ubuntu box, the output is 4800+ rows10:32
yeagersfllaw, 'set' IMHO should just list environment variables10:32
sfllawyeager: That's not what set does.  set lists locally defined variables and functions.10:33
sfllawYou are looking for env.10:33
sfllawyeager: Does that solve your problem?10:33
yeagersfllaw, why does it differ between debian (unstable) and ubuntu?10:33
sfllawEither your $HOME/.bashrc or /etc/bash.bashrc on your Ubuntu box is sourcing /etc/bash_completion.10:34
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sfllawThe Debian package, IIRC, has the same functionality.10:35
UbugtuNew bug: #83631 in sshfs-fuse (universe) "SSHFS doesn't honor ForwardX11 settings in ~/.ssh/config" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8363110:35
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yeagersfllaw, ok. i can live with that. should I or you close the BR?10:36
sfllawI'll do it.10:37
yeagerok, thanks10:37
sfllawThanks for using Ubuntu!10:37
yeagerI am :)10:37
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sfllawNafallo: Done.  :)10:37
Nafallosfllaw: thanks :-)10:38
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UbugtuNew bug: #83633 in squid (main) "squi 2.6 not built with -DFOLLOW_X_FORWARDED_FOR option" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8363310:50
UbugtuNew bug: #83634 in firefox (main) "Crash upon deleting bookmark" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8363410:50
coNPDo you think bug 82177 is a real bug?10:51
UbugtuMalone bug 82177 in Ubuntu "No USB keyboard support in CD menue" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8217710:51
coNPI guess the boot menu has no usb keyboard driver in itself10:52
sfllawcoNP: Yeah, sounds like a wishlist...10:53
sfllawBut shouldn't the BIOS take care of that?10:53
sfllawAh yes, his BIOS defaults it to off.10:53
coNPYep, I think it is not a real bug. Only a nice item on the wishlist.10:54
coNPsfllaw: Do you know, what is the package for the boot menu?10:55
UbugtuNew bug: #83635 in gnome-panel (main) "add/remove crashed when starting the iso image of feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8363510:55
dsascoNP: grub isn't it?10:56
sfllawcoNP: I believe it's syslinux.10:56
coNPnot grub10:56
coNPhave a look at it10:56
dsasoh /me scrolls up. sorry.10:56
sfllawIt's isolinux.bin.10:56
sfllawStrangely, packages.ubuntu.com doesn't seem to report that.10:56
sfllawHold on...10:58
sfllawYup, syslinux.10:58
sfllaw/usr/lib/syslinux/isolinux.bin.10:59
sfllawThat's a wishlist bug, I suppose.10:59
coNPsfllaw: sure, that not bootcd | debian-cd ?10:59
coNPImportance was the easier part, I guess :)10:59
sfllawcoNP: I just asked Tollef.11:00
UbugtuNew bug: #83636 in hwdb-client (main) "[apport]  hwdb-gui crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8363611:00
UbugtuNew bug: #83637 in network-manager (main) "Network-manager doesn't show any wireless network on ipw2200" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8363711:05
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UbugtuNew bug: #83639 in pootle (universe) "unable to run pootle, possible problem with python 2.4  2.5 upgrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8363911:11
UbugtuNew bug: #83640 in amarok (main) "ipod option disappeared in amarok mediadevices-plugins list" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8364011:26
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Nafallohej simira :-)11:30
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gnomefreakapport-retrace isnt as fun as it sounds11:41
UbugtuNew bug: #83641 in postgresql (universe) "postgres-8.1_8.1.4-7: Table has type character varying, but query expects character varying." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8364111:45
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UbugtuNew bug: #83642 in Ubuntu "fancy isolinux screen on install isos hang xen/kvm HVM guests" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8364211:50
UbugtuNew bug: #83643 in gnome-app-install (main) "[apport]  gnome-app-install crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8364311:50
UbugtuNew bug: #83644 in alsa-lib (main) "alsa-lib make's totem-xine crash (edgy amd64)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8364411:50
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UbugtuNew bug: #83645 in k3b (main) "k3b can't burn cd's" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8364512:01
UbugtuNew bug: #83646 in metacity (main) "another metacity crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8364612:01
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UbugtuNew bug: #83647 in gnome-cups-manager (main) "crash while editing panel" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8364712:05

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