[12:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83497 in Ubuntu "Firefox plugin installer crashes- 7.04 Herd 3" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83497
[12:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83498 in quicksynergy (universe) "Quicksynergy should minimize to Notification Area" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83498
[12:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83499 in Ubuntu "Beryl-XGL crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83499
[12:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83500 in evolution (main) "evolution expanding exchange aliases." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83500
[12:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83501 in gnome-session (main) "X session lasts less than 10 seconds" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83501
[12:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83502 in Ubuntu "beryl crashes on start up" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83502
[01:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83504 in linux-meta (main) "Apple IR not working anymore" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83504
[01:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83505 in postgresql-8.1 (main) "Breakage in Feb 5 security update" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83505
[02:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83506 in penguintv (universe) "No way to check / fix broken RSS feed URLs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83506
[02:21] <yuriy> hi what would be the next step for bug 82455
[02:21] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 82455 in synce-kde "synce broken after kde 3.5.6 upgrade" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82455
[02:28] <Hobbsee> yuriy: i can rebuild here
[02:30] <Hobbsee> yuriy: rebuild
[02:30] <Hobbsee> -d + t
[02:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83507 in zabbix (universe) "please sync zabbix (1:1.1.4-8) from unstable/main to universe" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83507
[02:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83508 in zabbix (universe) "Buffer overflow in ZABBIX before 1.1.5 has unknown impact and attack vectors related to "SNMP IP addresses."" [Unknown,Unknown]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83508
[02:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83509 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Z61t snd_intel_hda dosen't play after resume, and consequent reboots" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83509
[03:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83510 in Ubuntu "Creative Live Pro Webcam isn't recognized" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83510
[03:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83511 in Ubuntu "Ultrabay hotplug not working on z61t" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83511
[03:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83512 in Ubuntu "Regression: kernel loads pcspkr module even when blacklisted" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83512
[03:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83514 in Ubuntu "A bunch of hardware problems that used to work in Herd 2 of Ubuntu 7.04" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83514
[03:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83515 in amarok (main) "amarok 1.4.5 package is not compiled with ipod support" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83515
[03:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83516 in gnome-app-install (main) "gnome-app-install dependency in Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83516
[03:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83517 in egroupware (universe) "Wishlist: Include eGroupWare 1.4 in Feisty, if stable enough" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83517
[04:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83518 in mythplugins (multiverse) "Unable to initialize plugin 'mythvideo'." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83518
[04:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83519 in postgresql-8.1 (main) "postgresql update breaks check constraints" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83519
[05:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83520 in kde-systemsettings (main) "[Feisty]  Kubuntu System Settings has improperly formatted text" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83520
[05:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83521 in avahi (main) "feisty avahi-autoipd fails on fopen()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83521
[05:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83522 in synaptic (main) "synaptic ankward proxy support" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83522
[05:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83524 in libgalago-gtk (universe) "[Sync Request]  libgalago-gtk 0.5.0-1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83524
[05:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83525 in xubuntu-docs (main) "Listed location of "Terminal" is incorrect" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83525
[05:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83526 in anjuta (universe) "Wrong version of anjuta in feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83526
[05:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83527 in gnome-mount (main) "Inconsistant Mount Points" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83527
[06:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83528 in lilypond (universe) "Crash on pdf creation in Ubuntu 6.10" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83528
[06:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83529 in Ubuntu "Image shift when redrawing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83529
[06:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83530 in rhythmbox "rhythmbox crashes when updating some podcast feeds" [Unknown,Unknown]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83530
[06:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83531 in Ubuntu "CD ROM check menu item of boot loader boots to system instead of checking CD (Kubuntu Feisty Herd 3 AMD64) " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83531
[07:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83532 in java-package (multiverse) "Scripts for making a .deb don't support newest release of IBM Java on (at least) Dapper PPC." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83532
[08:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83533 in Ubuntu "Beryl-xgl crashes on start after last automatic update" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83533
[08:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83534 in gnupg (main) "gnupg doesn't show a success message after I uploaded a key to a keyserver" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83534
[08:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83536 in Ubuntu "X.org crashes when scrolling in Firefox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83536
[08:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83537 in Ubuntu "beryl crashes on start-up" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83537
[08:55] <dholbach> good morning
[08:57] <cowbud> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/82335 I might be blind but is there a reason why I can't confirm this bug?
[08:57] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 82335 in network-manager "network-manager should not set offline mode when it manages no device" [High,Unconfirmed] 
[08:57] <cowbud> yes thank you ubugtu
[08:58] <cowbud> did the rules change with confirming bugs or what?
[09:02] <cowbud> ?
[09:02] <cowbud> moo
[09:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83538 in kdevelop (universe) "file is refreshed automatically when changed on disk" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83538
[09:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83539 in kqemu (multiverse) "Update to GPL'ed 1.3pre10" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83539
[09:33] <cowbud> anyone awake?
[10:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83540 in Ubuntu "Fan overheat on notebook A2 with AMD athlon 64 and feisty i386" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83540
[10:07] <dholbach> hey mvo
[10:08] <mvo> hey dholbach!
[10:08] <mvo> you had a good weekend?
[10:08] <dholbach> yeah absolutely - thanks :)
[10:08] <mvo> !
[10:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83541 in compiz (universe) "Compiz just kills X session" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83541
[10:39] <elmargol> hi I can't start network-manager on eggy :(
[10:39] <elmargol> sorry network-admin
[10:49] <seb128> elmargol: "can't start" is not enough details to get a reply
[10:49] <elmargol> i upload the backtrace
[10:50] <elmargol> seb128: http://rafb.net/p/wMcU7z78.html
[10:51] <seb128> ah, it crashes
[10:51] <seb128> that's different of "can't start"
[10:51] <seb128> elmargol: looks like http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354536
[10:52] <Ubugtu> Gnome bug 354536 in network-admin "crash in Networking: trying to get the wetwor..." [Critical,Resolved: notgnome] 
[10:55] <elmargol> seb128: is there a fix for this?
[10:55] <seb128> no
[10:55] <seb128> the bug has been closed as NOTGNOME,and I'm not sure that not a GNOME bug
[10:55] <seb128> it needs to be debugged by somebody getting the problem
[10:56] <elmargol> how can I help?
[11:01] <seb128> install gnome-system-tools-dbgsym libglib2.0-0-dbg libgtk2.0-0-dbg
[11:01] <seb128> and get a new backtrace
[11:03] <elmargol> do i have to build those packages on my own?
[11:05] <seb128> no
[11:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83542 in libwpd (main) "sync request" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83542
[11:06] <seb128> I would say "build debug packages for ..." if that was things to build ;)
[11:06] <elmargol> I don't have gnome-system-tools-dbgsym on my repositories
[11:06] <seb128> elmargol: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash
[11:07] <elmargol> k
[11:10] <elmargol> The following packages have unmet dependencies:  gnome-system-tools-dbgsym: Depends: gnome-system-tools (= 2.15.5-0ubuntu2) but 2.15.5-0ubuntu5 is to be installed
[11:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83543 in nautilus-cd-burner (main) "Generates Windows incompatible CDs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83543
[11:17] <elmargol> Have to eat now, bbl
[11:20] <seb128> elmargol: ok, that's because there is no dbgsym for edgy-proposed and maybe edgy-updates, you might need to rebuild the package
[11:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83544 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "feisty kernel 2.6.20-6-generic does not contain DSDT patch as dapper and edgy did" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83544
[11:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83545 in Ubuntu "Firefox / Java crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83545
[12:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83546 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "2.6.17-10-generic does not find sata drive" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83546
[12:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #73476 in edgy-backports "backport curl 7.15.5 from Feisty to Edgy (dup-of: 73447)" [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/73476
[12:21] <elmargol> seb128: I can't build the package :( "collect2: ld returned 1 exit status"
[12:21] <elmargol> http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/7330/
[12:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83547 in gnome-power "Multiple mouse battery entries after suspend/resume cycle" [Unknown,Unknown]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83547
[12:27] <seb128> elmargol: apt-get build-dep gnome-system-tools to install the Build-Depends required
[12:28] <elmargol> seb128: no difference
[12:28] <seb128> elmargol: no difference what?
[12:29] <elmargol> I have every build-dep package installed...
[12:29] <seb128> that would be really weird
[12:29] <seb128> the package builds fine everywhere else
[12:30] <elmargol> maybe something on my system is broken?
[12:30] <seb128> could be
[12:30] <seb128> no indication that's the case though
[12:30] <seb128> maybe try downgrading gnome-system-tools to the edgy version
[12:31] <seb128> then you can install the dbgsym and you don't need to build the package
[12:31] <seb128> apt-get install gnome-system-tools/edgy
[12:32] <elmargol> k i do apt-get install gnome-system-tools/edgy liboobs-1-2/edgy system-tools-backends/edgy
[12:34] <elmargol> seb128: the edgy version of network-admin doesn't crash
[12:34] <seb128> that's the same code
[12:34] <seb128> it has to crash ;)
[12:34] <seb128> how do you run network-admin?
[12:35] <elmargol> i select it from the menu
[12:35] <elmargol> System -> Admin -> Network
[12:35] <seb128> does "sudo network-admin" from a command line crash?
[12:35] <elmargol> yes
[12:35] <seb128> ok, good
[12:36] <elmargol> http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/7331/
[12:38] <seb128> elmargol: could you install libglib2.0-0-dbg and get a backtrace with "bt full"?
[12:38] <elmargol> k
[12:38] <seb128> ah
[12:38] <seb128> maybe no need
[12:38] <seb128> location = (gchar *) 0x0
[12:38] <seb128> might be the problem
[12:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83549 in zenity (main) "zenity zenity --text-info --editable crashes on 56K text file on stdin" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83549
[12:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83550 in Ubuntu "impossible to de-activate screensaver " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83550
[12:44] <seb128> elmargol: thank you, that might be useful enough to fix it. I'll ping you again if upstream needs other details about that
[12:44] <elmargol> Do I have to backup some settings?
[12:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83551 in rhythmbox "python plugins don't work in amd64" [Unknown,Unknown]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83551
[12:46] <seb128> elmargol: do you have something to /root/.gnome2/network-admin-locations ?
[12:47] <elmargol> I have 2 files there
[12:47] <seb128> does moving them somewhere else (keep them, they can be useful for debug) fix the crash?
[12:49] <elmargol> yes!
[12:54] <elmargol> removing the [general]  part of the config fixed the problem
[12:55] <gnomefreak> when did we start reporting bugs on LP about licencing agreements? shouldnt they just be talked about at TB meetings?
[12:56] <seb128> elmargol: what was to that part?
[01:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83552 in totem (main) "totem crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83552
[01:08] <elmargol> seb128: static-hosts=127.0.0.1;localhost;foo.com,127.0.1.1;amdk8.lan;amdk8,::1;ip6-localhost;ip6-loopback,fe00::0;ip6-localnet,ff00::0;ip6-mcastprefix,ff02::1;ip6-allnodes,ff02::2;ip6-allrouters,ff02::3;ip6-allhosts,
[01:08] <elmargol> i think the foo.com part causes the problem
[01:09] <seb128> could you try to get a valgrind log also
[01:09] <seb128> copy the config back
[01:09] <seb128> install the valgrind package
[01:09] <seb128> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valgrind has instructions about that
[01:10] <seb128> lunch time, I'll read the chan after lunch
[01:10] <seb128> thank you for the work on that
[01:10] <seb128> bbl
[01:10] <elmargol> k i try it
[01:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83553 in ubuntu-meta (main) "redundant updating of packages" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83553
[01:40] <seb128> elmargol: any luck with the valgrind log?
[01:40] <elmargol> yes where can I upload it?
[01:42] <seb128> can you send it with the config files by mail? replace the private data from the config first though (like passwords, etc)?
[01:42] <seb128> to carlosg@gnome.org and seb128@ubuntu.com
[01:42] <elmargol> ok give me the adress
[01:42] <seb128> carlosg is upstream
[01:47] <elmargol> mail is out
[01:47] <seb128> elmargol: thank you
[01:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83557 in emerald-themes (universe) "Emerald Theme manager" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83557
[01:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83555 in python2.5 (main) "[apport]  python2.5 crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83555
[01:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83556 in apport (main) "[apport]  apport-gtk crashed with IndexError in create_crash_bug_title()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83556
[02:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83558 in kdebase (main) "[kde 3.5.6]  konqueror: changes to column order and width persist across view modes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83558
[02:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83559 in texlive-base (universe) "Gzipping documentation makes no sense" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83559
[02:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83560 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "compilation stops " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83560
[02:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83561 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  update-manager crashed with SystemError in requiredDownload()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83561
[02:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83562 in nautilus (main) "NAutilus crashed when transfering 4,3 Go from external hard disk in usb2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83562
[02:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83563 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  update-manager crashed with NameError in init_proxy()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83563
[02:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83564 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashes on click to focus" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83564
[03:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83565 in Ubuntu "please sync libx86" [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83565
[03:10] <alefteris> I am trying to follow this guide http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToFix but the package build-dep that is mentioned in the quide does not exist in the repos.. Is it replaced by something else? Or is this guide to old?
[03:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83566 in apport (main) "Checks mtime of interpreter, not scripts" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83566
[03:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83567 in dpkg (main) "dpkg -l doesn't display the epoch" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83567
[03:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83568 in gnumeric (main) "amd64 version of gnumeric does not read or write excel format" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83568
[03:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83571 in xorg (main) "[Feisty]  Middle click fails with no action" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83571
[04:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83569 in Ubuntu "[feisty] launch (both) gnome and kde" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83569
[04:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83572 in xfce4-terminal (main) "[Feisty]  xfce4-terminal paints very slowly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83572
[04:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83573 in nautilus-cd-burner (main) "Filename not quoted when calling cdrecord" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83573
[04:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83574 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Kernel does not boot without pci=nommconf parameter" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83574
[04:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83575 in gnome-network (universe) "Network doesn't strat properly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83575
[04:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83576 in Ubuntu "Headphone not detected on boot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83576
[04:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83577 in Ubuntu "LCD brightness control very poor" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83577
[04:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83578 in Ubuntu "when X server is configured with 16bit color firefox crashes on some pages" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83578
[04:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83579 in Ubuntu "Volume down key changing pan setting" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83579
[04:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83580 in mplayer (multiverse) "mplayer compiled without mp3 support" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83580
[04:55] <Nafallo> !info 915resolution feisty
[04:55] <ubotu> 915resolution: resolution modification tool for Intel graphic chipset. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2-9ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 13 kB, installed size 124 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)
[04:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83582 in Ubuntu "Edgy AMD64 2.6.20-6-lowlatency kernel and boot errors" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83582
[04:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83583 in gnome-app-install (main) "Not able to upgrade gnome-app-install in feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83583
[05:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83584 in rhythmbox (main) "Retrieving data from DAAP shares doesn't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83584
[05:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83585 in xchat (universe) "XChat uses Opera for everything" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83585
[05:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83587 in sane-backends (main) "HP ScanJet 5300C doesn't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83587
[05:29] <fernando> hi all
[05:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83591 in Ubuntu "no internet with chello austria cablemodems" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83591
[05:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83592 in update-manager (main) "upgrading ububntu crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83592
[05:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83593 in alsaplayer (universe) "All package removed from adept during "alsaplayer-esd" installation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83593
[06:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83595 in Ubuntu "Feisty Herd 3, BUG: soft lockup on CPU#0" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83595
[06:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83596 in dhcpdump (universe) "dhcpdump Segmentation fault" [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83596
[06:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83594 in azureus "[feisty] azureus wont open after update of java" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83594
[06:50] <dholbach> sfllaw, bdmurray: you two should be the admins of ubuntu-qa
[06:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83597 in Ubuntu "Unknown device: x11alpha " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83597
[06:51] <dholbach> sfllaw: can you arrange that? so I can 'step down'?
[06:51] <sfllaw> dholbach: Absolutely.
[06:51] <sfllaw> I'll keep you on, though.
[06:52] <dholbach> i feel I'm taking care of too many teams already :)
[06:52] <sfllaw> bdmurray: Do you have an Ubuntu Wiki page?
[06:53] <sfllaw> dholbach: BugSquad for bdmurray seems reasonable as well.
[06:53] <dholbach> yeah
[06:54] <sfllaw> bdmurray: I'm taking off your expiration date.
[06:54] <gnomefreak> bdmurray: im gonna email david about what to look for in crash reports sometime today
[06:54] <sfllaw> Fresh forever.
[06:54] <dholbach> bdmurray, sfllaw: done
[06:54] <sfllaw> bdmurray, dholbach: Done.
[06:54] <sfllaw> Updated UbuntuQA page as well.
[06:55] <gnomefreak> who wrote/edits the packaging guide?
[06:56] <dholbach> gnomefreak: LaserJock
[06:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83598 in cupsys (main) "USB back-channel bug for minolta printer" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83598
[06:56] <gnomefreak> ok will ping him than smack him ty :)
[06:57] <bdmurray> sfllaw: no wiki page yet
[06:57] <sfllaw> I've assumed BrianMurray.
[06:58] <sfllaw> bdmurray: You might want to make a short one.
[06:58] <bdmurray> I could use mailing list admin passwords too sometime.
[06:58] <sfllaw> Yeah.
[06:58] <sfllaw> Let's see.
[06:58] <sfllaw> I'll dig them out and you can add yourself as an admin.
[06:58] <sfllaw> Then you can get fun "toss out spam" e-mails too.
[06:58] <dholbach> bdmurray: I mailed about bughelper and do ubuntu-bugsquad@ now
[06:59] <dholbach> bdmurray: you are already
[06:59] <dholbach> bdmurray: mailed you the mailing list password
[06:59] <bdmurray> Right, I am but don't have the password afaik.  I would have approved my post yesterday. ;)
[06:59] <sfllaw> Ha.
[06:59] <bdmurray> dholbach: cool thanks
[06:59] <seb128> what team membership is required for changing bug settings? ubuntu-qa or bugsquad?
[06:59] <dholbach> seb128: the former
[06:59] <dholbach> bdmurray: anytime
[06:59] <bdmurray> ubuntu-qa
[07:00] <sfllaw> bdmurray, dholbach: ubuntu-bugsquad-announce exists now.
[07:00] <dholbach> sfllaw: can you sign us up and make us admins?
[07:00] <sfllaw> Yes.
[07:00] <sfllaw> So...
[07:00] <dholbach> i'll write a bughelper report later today
[07:00] <sfllaw> We talked about making all ubuntu-bugsquad members mandatory members.
[07:01] <seb128> bdmurray: thank you
[07:01] <sfllaw> Shall we also subscribe ubuntu-devel-announce?
[07:01] <dholbach> they'll have to get approved anyway
[07:01] <sfllaw> And what about these ISO-testing fellows?
[07:01] <sfllaw> We originally assumed that Ubuntu QA was a strict subset of BugSquad.
[07:02] <sfllaw> But that won't be the case if I approve pochu.
[07:02] <pochu> hi!
[07:02] <coNP> pochu is member of bugsquad, isn't he?
[07:02] <coNP> hey pochu
[07:02] <pochu> hi guys!
[07:03] <pochu> I heard my name :)
[07:03] <pochu> I'm a member of bugsquad, sure :)
[07:03] <pochu> what are you planning? :)
[07:03] <sfllaw> Oh.
[07:03] <sfllaw> Who was it that didn't want to be?
[07:03] <sfllaw> I'm confused.
[07:04] <sfllaw> Someone from the ISO testing team.
[07:04] <pochu> sfllaw: who are you talking to? I'm also confused ;)
[07:04] <pochu> hehe
[07:08] <sfllaw> Ah, manchicken.
[07:09] <bdmurray> sfllaw: that sounds right
[07:09] <bdmurray> I thought he only wanted to modify his own bugs though
[07:09] <sfllaw> Is he upstream?
[07:09] <sfllaw> Is that why?
[07:10] <sfllaw> Hey, does anyone want to join ubuntu-qa today?
[07:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83599 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "2.6.20-6-powerpc panic on PowerBook G4" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83599
[07:10] <Nafallo> sfllaw: do I have to? :-)
[07:11] <pochu> sfllaw: me :)
[07:11] <coNP> hey, pochu .
[07:11] <coNP>  :)
[07:11] <pochu> :D
[07:11] <sfllaw> Nafallo: I don't force anyone to do anything they don't want to.
[07:11] <pochu> :)
[07:11] <sfllaw> Nafallo: But you'll get a nifty emblem.
[07:11] <pochu> hehe
[07:11] <sfllaw> Nafallo: And street cred when you're helping people triage.
[07:11] <Nafallo> sfllaw: I got that from ubuntu-dev already :-)
[07:11] <coNP> I got that emlen. It is really cool ;)
[07:12] <sfllaw> Nafallo: Developers, surprisingly, often don't know the triage procedure.  :)
[07:12] <sfllaw> pochu: I just looked through your list of bugs.
[07:12] <sfllaw> pochu: You agreed to conditions 1 & 2 already?
[07:12] <gnomefreak> sfllaw: devels already have access to changing  importance right?
[07:12] <pochu> sfllaw: sure
[07:12] <sfllaw> gnomefreak: Indeed.
[07:12] <gnomefreak> k ty
[07:12] <sfllaw> pochu: Welcome to the team!
[07:13] <gnomefreak> i have a few good canadites for it they just dont seem around
[07:13] <Nafallo> sfllaw: hehe. indeed. I often just fix bugs, add a branch to it, merge and upload. looking at mplayer today :-).
[07:13] <sfllaw> Your first responsibility is to mark the Importance of your assigned bugs.  :)
[07:13] <sfllaw> That's great!
[07:13] <pochu> :)
[07:13] <sfllaw> Fixing bugs is awesome.
[07:13] <pochu> (its a joke ;)
[07:13] <pochu> hehe
[07:13] <Nafallo> yay! :-)
[07:13] <sfllaw> Actually, setting Importance is an easy thing for people to do.
[07:14] <gnomefreak> you use wishlist more than anything else :)
[07:14] <sfllaw> Sometimes, when I'm bored, I'll just find bugs which are Confirmed that have no importance and no assignee.
[07:14] <Nafallo> sfllaw: I often subscribe people or confirm things I've seen on my own laptop :-).
[07:14] <Nafallo> sfllaw: and ask users for followups...
[07:15] <sfllaw> Nafallo: I spend a lot of time Confirming incomplete bugs by providing debug information.
[07:15] <sfllaw> It's a very useful service.
[07:15] <Nafallo> sfllaw: you rock! :-)
[07:15] <sfllaw> Just doing my job.
[07:15] <Nafallo> that to ;-)
[07:16] <sfllaw> http://tinyurl.com/2wuq59
[07:16] <pochu> done :)
[07:16] <sfllaw> ^^^ Help sort bugs that people think are unimportant.
[07:16] <sfllaw> pochu: Yay!  \o/
[07:17] <Nafallo> mvo: here?
[07:17] <AlexLatchford> Im about now gnomefreak
[07:17] <sfllaw> AlexLatchford: Hi!
[07:17] <AlexLatchford> howdy sfllaw, I applied to join the QA Team earlier today
[07:18] <mvo> Nafallo: yes
[07:18] <sfllaw> AlexLatchford: Have you read the UbuntuQA page?
[07:18] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 1 in ichthux "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/1
[07:18] <AlexLatchford> been working with the Mozilla Team for the last month trying to hammer down the number of firefox and thunderbird bugs
[07:18] <sfllaw> AlexLatchford: Very nice.
[07:19] <gnomefreak> AlexLatchford: btw we have a lot of work to do :( im testing a chroot for apport-retrace
[07:19] <AlexLatchford> aha nice
[07:19] <Nafallo> mvo: you know about a bug in gdebi (not -gtk) where "y" is translated to "j" and "j" means "n"? :-)
[07:20] <sfllaw> AlexLatchford: Still, have you read the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuQA page?
[07:20] <sfllaw> It lists the simple requirements for joining.
[07:20] <AlexLatchford> yeah ive been through the Triaging page and the Importance list several times now
[07:21] <mvo> Nafallo: is that a bug in feisty? or in edgy?
[07:21] <AlexLatchford> understand it all I believe
[07:21] <Nafallo> mvo: feisty. haven't tried edgy to be honest :-)
[07:21] <mvo> Nafallo: IIRC I fixed a issue like this recently in feisty, but I may be wrong and the fix does not work
[07:21] <mvo> Nafallo: ok :)
[07:22] <dholbach> you think I should post the bughelper report to ubuntu-devel@ too?
[07:23] <Nafallo> dholbach: I can't see how it would hurt :-)
[07:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83600 in apport (main) "Apport fails to pipe core dump" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83600
[07:25] <sfllaw> AlexLatchford: I notice that you don't have any assigned bugs, you know that Needs Info should be assigned to you when you set it?
[07:26] <AlexLatchford> I have been working under the Mozilla Policy to assign it to the Mozilla Team
[07:26] <mvo> Nafallo: thanks, found and fixed
[07:26] <AlexLatchford> just this week I worked through the backlog of bugs I had assigned to me and reassigned them to the Mozilla Team along with working on them
[07:26] <Nafallo> mvo: want me to try it?
[07:27] <mvo> Nafallo: you will have to check out the bzr tree and update the translation.  if that is ok with you, sure :)
[07:27] <sfllaw> AlexLatchford: Oy.
[07:28] <sfllaw> AlexLatchford: Can you normalize it with the standard Bugs/HowToTriage policy?
[07:28] <sfllaw> AlexLatchford: It's very nice to be able to see, at a glance, which bugs you're responsible for.
[07:29] <Nafallo> mvo: where are the branches? :-)
[07:29] <AlexLatchford> sfllaw: Yeah sure, (I am not sure what normalise in this context means, but I am assuming that it means from now on)
[07:30] <sfllaw> AlexLatchford: We ask people to Assign themselves to Needs Info bugs, and then unassign on Confirmed.
[07:30] <sfllaw> That way, you can look at your list of +assignedbugs and see which ones you ought to ping people about.
[07:30] <sfllaw> Often, your list of +subscribedbugs can get really huge.
[07:31] <AlexLatchford> Yeah ok
[07:31] <sfllaw> AlexLatchford: Neat!
[07:31] <AlexLatchford> I will also bring this up at the Mozilla Team Mailing list also
[07:31] <sfllaw> AlexLatchford: Please do.
[07:31] <sfllaw> It works quite well for us in BugSquad.
[07:32] <sfllaw> I'll approve you in UbuntuQA.
[07:32] <sfllaw> Welcome!
[07:32] <AlexLatchford> yeah, it was working for me before
[07:32] <AlexLatchford> thanks alot
[07:32] <AlexLatchford> :)
[07:32] <sfllaw> OK, food time.
[07:32] <pochu> :)
[07:36] <Nafallo> mvo: nm, think I found it.
[07:38] <gnomefreak> AlexLatchford: you make it?
[07:38] <AlexLatchford> believe so :)
[07:39] <gnomefreak> you did
[07:40] <gnomefreak> sfllaw: when you get back please let me know i have a request on assigning bugs
[07:43] <sfllaw> gnomefreak: Back.
[07:43] <Nafallo> mvo: revno 134 is the last one I got. I don't think that's correct :-/
[07:43] <gnomefreak> sfllaw: damn that was fast
[07:43] <gnomefreak> sfllaw: can we get people to assign mozillateam to firefox/thunderbird bugs?
[07:43] <sfllaw> I went downstairs for a quick sandwich.
[07:44] <sfllaw> Assign or subscribe?
[07:44] <gnomefreak> so we can better track them
[07:44] <gnomefreak> assign
[07:44] <sfllaw> I think you want a subscription there, assignment means something different.
[07:44] <gnomefreak> sfllaw: we are gonna be the ones fixing them and tagging them afaik
[07:44] <sfllaw> Does Mozilla Team automatically get subscribed to Mozilla packages?
[07:45] <gnomefreak> yes
[07:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83602 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) ""no screen found" with fglrx; just dist-upgraded from edgy to feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83602
[07:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83603 in Ubuntu "Crash when chosing "Close #2 Animation"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83603
[07:46] <sfllaw> I don't want to be confrontational, so don't take it this way, but how do you tell who is working specifically on which bug?
[07:46] <sfllaw> We normally use Assignment to mean "I am fixing it."
[07:46] <sfllaw> And you can get a list of Mozilla Team subscribed bugs.
[07:47] <gnomefreak> sfllaw: we have a team and a maintainer for ubuntu mozilla
[07:47] <mvo> Nafallo: there should be r135. but it usually take some minutes before a branch becomes available on a pulic mirror
[07:47] <gnomefreak> im assuming he will be doing most of patching and i think me and him will be doing the rebuilding
[07:48] <Nafallo> mvo: but the supermirror one is correct?
[07:50] <sfllaw> gnomefreak: Hmm.  So what does the assignment mean?  As in, how is it distinct from the automatic subscription?
[07:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83604 in ntp (main) "ntpdate 1:4.2.2.p4+dfsg-1ubuntu2 has a flawed configuration file." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83604
[07:51] <gnomefreak> sfllaw: iirc the triagers are assigning bugs to themselves because theya re asking for more info right?
[07:51] <sfllaw> gnomefreak: Right, and then they Unassign afterwards.
[07:51] <gnomefreak> sfllaw: i have bugs back from breezy that iam workiong on and upward how does our ubuntu maintianer know to fix a bug if assign to joey
[07:52] <sfllaw> So you can search for Confirmed & Assigned: Nobody.
[07:52] <gnomefreak> and we are getting ready to start retracing all crash reports
[07:52] <sfllaw> gnomefreak: Because after it gets past Needs Info, the instructions say to assign to Nobody.
[07:53] <gnomefreak> sfllaw: but they are not adbiding by the 30+ day needsinfo close bug
[07:53] <gnomefreak> they == some
[07:53] <sfllaw> So, let's say it's a real bug and ready to be fixed, so I set Status: Confirmed, Importance: Something, Assigned: Nobody.
[07:53] <sfllaw> Hmm, so I'm confused about how your workflow is supposed to go.
[07:54] <sfllaw> Do you want them to set Status: Confirmed, Importance: Something, Assigned: Mozilla Team?
[07:54] <sfllaw> Or is this during the Needs Info step?
[07:55] <gnomefreak> sfllaw: im setting up a chroot atm but we will be running through bugs on ff and tb and for any incomplete crashreport we are gonna be downloading crashreport and retracing them
[07:55] <sfllaw> gnomefreak: That's a great plan!
[07:55] <gnomefreak> so all the ones we do people are gonna be removed from the bugs and i dont want people to get pissed because they cant trace it on LP
[07:56] <gnomefreak> great plan hard as crap and time consuming :)
[07:56] <sfllaw> Why would people get upset?
[07:56] <sfllaw> You're going to Confirm the bug and remove someone's assignment, right?
[07:56] <sfllaw> Or am I confused?
[07:56] <gnomefreak> sfllaw: yes
[07:56] <sfllaw> Oh man, please unbefuddle me.
[07:58] <gnomefreak> .win 20
[07:58] <sfllaw> gnomefreak: Oh.  When you update the bug, just put a very nice note in the comment saying that you retraced it and now it's Confirmed.
[07:58] <sfllaw> I do that and have had no complaints yet.
[07:58] <fernando> hi dholbach
[07:59] <gnomefreak> ok  will do it
[07:59] <sfllaw> Yay!
[07:59] <sfllaw> Thanks for being considerate!
[08:00] <gnomefreak> thank you too :)
[08:00] <did448> Hi, about but 83597, gs-esp has been replaced by gs-esp-x, it's an update bug or it needs a dist-upgrade? ie before with gs-esp you got X11 output now you need gs-esp-x
[08:00] <sfllaw> did448: Looking.
[08:02] <sfllaw> did448: Ah.
[08:02] <sfllaw> did448: It's a packaging bug in evince _and_ gs-esp.
[08:02] <sfllaw> The gs-esp binary package's description needs to mention that you need gs-esp-x for X11.  It currently lies about that.
[08:04] <dholbach> can somebody check 'writing clue files'?
[08:04] <sfllaw> The evince package needs to Depends: on gs-esp-x | gs
[08:04] <sfllaw> did448: Does that make sense?
[08:04] <did448> sfllaw: I'm afraid a lot of packages need gs-esp-x now.
[08:05] <did448> sfllaw: Yes it does.
[08:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83605 in matplotlib (universe) "import failure, missing dependency" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83605
[08:07] <bdmurray> dholbach: does using bugxml to add clues work?  I thought I had an issue with it earlier.
[08:08] <dholbach> bdmurray: it works for me - can you tell me what the problem is?
[08:08] <coNP> Should I subscribe someone (like motu-sponsors by bugs in MOTU) if I prepared a fix for bug 83549? Or just unassign myself?
[08:08] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 83549 in zenity "zenity zenity --text-info --editable crashes on 56K text file on stdin" [Unknown,Unknown]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83549
[08:08] <bdmurray> dholbach: you might want to add 'bzr add' for new clues
[08:08] <dholbach> bdmurray: oh right
[08:08] <dholbach> bdmurray: do you add it or shall I do it?
[08:09] <bdmurray> I have not added it, either way is fine.
[08:09] <dholbach> I'll just add it - thanks for looking through it.
[08:09] <sfllaw> coNP: Looking...
[08:09] <bdmurray> dholbach: Also maybe adding something about the dontlist feature when searching for dupes
[08:10] <dholbach> ah right
[08:10] <bdmurray> Personally, I add that in after testing that I match on the original bug.
[08:10] <sfllaw> coNP: zenity is in main, so you'll want to find an appropriate person to upload the fix.
[08:11] <sfllaw> dholbach or seb128 can tell you what they'd like you to do.
[08:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83606 in beryl-settings (universe) "[apport]  beryl-settings crashed with AttributeError in MakeBackendWidgets()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83606
[08:11] <coNP> sfllaw: thanks
[08:15] <coNP> By the way, is it known that Ubugtu does not know th proper state and importance of bugs?
[08:15] <coNP> Or what does [Unknown,Unknown]  mean after the bug description?
[08:15] <dholbach> bdmurray: done
[08:15] <bdmurray> It means nothing has been assigned to the bug yet
[08:16] <pochu> coNP: you should talk to Seveas
[08:16] <bdmurray> if you query about an old bug it displays properly
[08:16] <coNP> What does old mean?
[08:16] <bdmurray> bug 82874
[08:16] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 82874 in discover-data "Graphic controller not detected properly on Dimension 9150 for Feisty herd 3" [High,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82874
[08:16] <sfllaw> coNP: Undecided?
[08:16] <coNP> This is set [Confirmed, Low]  since some hours?
[08:16] <sfllaw> coNP: Ah.
[08:17] <sfllaw> coNP: That's because it extracts this from its e-mail notification.
[08:17] <sfllaw> coNP: We could screenscrape Launchpad, but...
[08:18] <bdmurray> dholbach: my line 8 is ~/.bughelper/config
[08:18] <bdmurray> if that makes any sense
[08:18] <coNP> sfllaw: I guess it reports the upstream states that are not set yet
[08:18] <dholbach> bdmurray: my line 8 says   Edit ~/bughelper/config to contain the path to bughelper-data (you just checked out) in the Local-Packages-Dir: line.
[08:19] <bdmurray> dholbach: yeah, I meant it is ~/.bughelper for me
[08:19] <sfllaw> coNP: Oh.
[08:19] <sfllaw> coNP: That would be humourous.
[08:19] <bdmurray> dholbach: on my system
[08:19] <sfllaw> coNP: Seveas would know more.
[08:19] <coNP> Since I became the mails stating the changes some time ago. Not so important, just wondering :)
[08:20] <pochu> bye!
[08:20] <coNP> bye pochu
[08:20] <dholbach> bye pochu
[08:20] <sfllaw> pochu: Night.
[08:20] <dholbach> bdmurray: oh - haha, ok :)
[08:20] <bdmurray> dholbach: I wasn't sure if I am just special.
[08:21] <dholbach> no ... it was me that was 'special' ;-)
[08:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83607 in firefox (main) "firefox won't attach/send jpg's" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83607
[08:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83608 in evolution (main) "Evolution stopped reading IMAP folders" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83608
[08:22] <bdmurray> dholbach: I think step 11 should clarify what to do if 'no'
[08:23] <dholbach> bdmurray: 'nothing' :)
[08:23] <dholbach> but I agree it doesn't explain much 'what happens'
[08:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83609 in k3b (main) "k3b crashes midway through creating dvd image" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83609
[08:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83611 in kdewebdev (main) "FTP upload method is missing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83611
[08:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83612 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashes about one minute after closing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83612
[08:32] <coNP> dholbach, seb128 can you tell me what should I do with bug 83549?
[08:32] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 83549 in zenity "zenity zenity --text-info --editable crashes on 56K text file on stdin" [Unknown,Unknown]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83549
[08:34] <dholbach> coNP: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess :)
[08:35] <coNP> dholbach: thanks, sorry for bugging you, I was redirected to you :)
[08:35] <dholbach> no problem
[08:39] <seb128> coNP: for upstream bug if you want to do it I would advice opening an upstream bug with your patch
[08:40] <seb128> we tend to not upload patched versions when we can get it fixed upstream, wait next version and get it for free then
[08:40] <seb128> upstream roll tarballs often enough, like next ones are next monday
[08:40] <coNP> seb128: okay, then I send my patch to upstream
[08:40] <seb128> thank you
[08:41] <seb128> GNOME is sort of a special area
[08:41] <seb128> there is no UVF and it's easy to get patches upstream
[08:41] <coNP> what is UVF?
[08:42] <seb128> for other packages which are not likely to get a new version before feisty it's probably interesting to get the package patched
[08:42] <seb128> Upstream Version Freeze
[08:42] <seb128> we stop getting new version to stabilize
[08:42] <seb128> GNOME is not frozen though since we trust the fact that they stabilize versions with their freeze and we want to ship new stable GNOME anyway
[08:44] <coNP> Oh, sure.
[08:46] <coNP> Thanks, seb128
[08:50] <seb128> coNP: np, thank *you* for working on that patch
[08:50] <coNP> Oh, now I have 1 point (in GNOME Bugzilla) :)
[08:52] <seb128> coNP: you are launched now ;)
[09:12] <Nafallo> mvo: pushed
[09:14] <mvo> Nafallo: pushed to what branch?
[09:14] <Nafallo> mvo: ~nafallo/gdebi/ubuntu.svpo
[09:15] <Nafallo> :-)
[09:15] <mvo> Nafallo: great! thanks a lot :)
[09:15] <Nafallo> no problem :-).
[09:22] <bddebian> Boo
[09:24] <cowbud> ohh NOES
[09:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83617 in Ubuntu "[Feisty]  headphone muted" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83617
[09:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83618 in gnome-games (main) "gtali 'scores' greyed out' in feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83618
[09:34] <Nafallo> mvo: pushed again. found some fuzzy strings :-)
[09:35] <mvo> Nafallo: thanks. it seems like it is not yet available via http, bzr complains that it can't find it
[09:35] <mvo> Nafallo: but I will keep trying :)
[09:35] <Nafallo> odd :-)
[09:36] <Nafallo> they should get a SmartServer or something :-P
[09:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83619 in Ubuntu "[Feisty]  cannot change proxy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83619
[09:39] <Seveas> coNP, howdy
[09:40] <coNP> hey Setomido1
[09:40] <coNP> sorry :)
[09:40] <coNP> hey Seveas
[09:40] <Seveas> you needed to talk to me?
[09:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83621 in Ubuntu "[Feisty]  increase volume on keyboard" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83621
[09:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83622 in firefox (main) "Gros plantage firefox avi aprs clic sur enregistrer cible" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83622
[09:41] <Seveas> coNP, where does ubugtu not report the correct state? It would be a bug if that's true :)
[09:42] <coNP> bug 83549
[09:42] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 83549 in zenity "zenity zenity --text-info --editable crashes on 56K text file on stdin" [Unknown,Unknown]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83549
[09:42] <coNP> which is Confirmed / Low in Ubuntu (but really Unknown / Unknown in Upstream)
[09:43] <Seveas> I see
[09:43] <Seveas> it's a semi-bug
[09:43] <Seveas> thanks for reporting
[09:44] <coNP> np
[09:44] <coNP> Seveas: By the way, why is the ! used as trigger for ubotu? I allways have the feeling that the factoid is negated...
[09:44] <Seveas> coNP, heh :)
[09:45] <Seveas> because % and @ are already used by other functionality of the bots
[09:45] <coNP> Really. For the first time it was quite annoying :)
[09:45] <Seveas> @reload Bugtracker
[09:46] <Seveas> bug 83549
[09:46] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 83549 in zenity "zenity zenity --text-info --editable crashes on 56K text file on stdin" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83549
[09:46] <Seveas> there we go
[09:46] <Seveas> bug 1
[09:46] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 1 in ichthux "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/1
[09:47] <cowbud> hrmm damn I can't delete comments
[09:47] <cowbud> so when I make a fool of myself it is there for ever eh
[09:47] <coNP> (I have learnt, that hugging Ubugtu can have unforeseen consequenses)
[09:53] <cowbud> I can't search inside of bugs?
[09:53] <cowbud> is that true?
[09:58] <Nafallo> mvo: seems your fix is not correct anyway.
[09:59] <mvo> hrm
[09:59] <mvo> not good
[09:59] <Nafallo> mvo: but that might be because the po-files seems to be not installed...
[09:59] <mvo> oh?
[09:59] <lifeless> hi mvo
[09:59] <mvo> hello lifeless!
[09:59] <Nafallo> dpkg -L doesn't give me .mo anyway :-/
[09:59] <lifeless> you pung?
[10:00] <mvo> pung?
[10:00] <bdmurray> Anybody know where livecd boot options are documented?
[10:00] <lifeless> my cute past tense of ping
[10:00] <mvo> heh :) I did, did you got the stuff I wrote in the /querry?
[10:00] <lifeless> yup
[10:00] <lifeless> hows tomorrow sounds, around this  time ?
[10:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83623 in network-manager (main) "NetworkManager hangs with 100% cpu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83623
[10:01] <lifeless> today I'm uninspired - *tired*
[10:01] <mvo> lifeless: that sounds good
[10:01] <eroyf> evening gentlemen
[10:01] <eroyf> how's life in ubuntu land?
[10:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83624 in update-manager (main) "update-manager crash in logout" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83624
[10:09] <Nafallo> set seems to be b0rked
[10:10] <Nafallo> what package is that in?
[10:10] <Nafallo> shows some script or something
[10:12] <Nafallo> 22:10 < yeager> +debian -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4468/
[10:13] <Nafallo> 22:11 < yeager> +ubuntu -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4469/
[10:13] <Nafallo> sfllaw: care to look at that and confirm?
[10:15] <ajmitch> Nafallo: what's unusual about it?
[10:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83626 in gkrellm (universe) "changing order leds in gkleds plugin" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83626
[10:15] <Nafallo> ajmitch: looked at the URLs?
[10:15] <ajmitch> Nafallo: it's just a matter of whether bash completion is turned on or not
[10:16] <Nafallo> aha. thanks :-)
[10:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83627 in fuse (main) "fuse-utils doesn't include mount.fuse" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83627
[10:23] <mvo> Nafallo: all should work now, feel free to merge/test, but I will leave now
[10:23] <mvo> Nafallo: thanks again for helping with this problem :)
[10:23] <Nafallo> mvo: oki. thanks :-)
[10:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83629 in initramfs-tools (main) "update-initramfs and mkinitramfs should rename into place after creation" [High,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83629
[10:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83630 in compiz (universe) "update to current git" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83630
[10:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83628 in imagemagick (main) "Stuff from imagemagick ends up as environment variables" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83628
[10:26] <sfllaw> Nafallo: Looking.
[10:27] <Nafallo> sfllaw: the last bug should be about that :-)
[10:27] <Nafallo> sfllaw: 83628
[10:28] <sfllaw> sfllaw: I'm confused as to why this is a bug...
[10:28] <sfllaw> sfllaw: The bug filer did not say what the expected result is.
[10:29] <Nafallo> sfllaw: should I ask yeager to join? :-)
[10:29] <Nafallo> sfllaw: I don't really care about it personally, but he seems to do.
[10:31] <sfllaw> yeager: Hello.  you just reported bug 83628?
[10:31] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 83628 in imagemagick "Stuff from imagemagick ends up as environment variables" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83628
[10:31] <yeager> sfllaw, correct
[10:31] <sfllaw> yeager: It's a little incomplete.  Could you tell me what the expected result is?
[10:32] <yeager> sfllaw, on my Debian box, the output from 'set' is just 48 rows
[10:32] <yeager> sfllaw, on my ubuntu box, the output is 4800+ rows
[10:32] <yeager> sfllaw, 'set' IMHO should just list environment variables
[10:33] <sfllaw> yeager: That's not what set does.  set lists locally defined variables and functions.
[10:33] <sfllaw> You are looking for env.
[10:33] <sfllaw> yeager: Does that solve your problem?
[10:33] <yeager> sfllaw, why does it differ between debian (unstable) and ubuntu?
[10:34] <sfllaw> Either your $HOME/.bashrc or /etc/bash.bashrc on your Ubuntu box is sourcing /etc/bash_completion.
[10:35] <sfllaw> The Debian package, IIRC, has the same functionality.
[10:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83631 in sshfs-fuse (universe) "SSHFS doesn't honor ForwardX11 settings in ~/.ssh/config" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83631
[10:36] <yeager> sfllaw, ok. i can live with that. should I or you close the BR?
[10:37] <sfllaw> I'll do it.
[10:37] <yeager> ok, thanks
[10:37] <sfllaw> Thanks for using Ubuntu!
[10:37] <yeager> I am :)
[10:37] <sfllaw> Nafallo: Done.  :)
[10:38] <Nafallo> sfllaw: thanks :-)
[10:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83633 in squid (main) "squi 2.6 not built with -DFOLLOW_X_FORWARDED_FOR option" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83633
[10:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83634 in firefox (main) "Crash upon deleting bookmark" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83634
[10:51] <coNP> Do you think bug 82177 is a real bug?
[10:51] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 82177 in Ubuntu "No USB keyboard support in CD menue" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82177
[10:52] <coNP> I guess the boot menu has no usb keyboard driver in itself
[10:53] <sfllaw> coNP: Yeah, sounds like a wishlist...
[10:53] <sfllaw> But shouldn't the BIOS take care of that?
[10:53] <sfllaw> Ah yes, his BIOS defaults it to off.
[10:54] <coNP> Yep, I think it is not a real bug. Only a nice item on the wishlist.
[10:55] <coNP> sfllaw: Do you know, what is the package for the boot menu?
[10:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83635 in gnome-panel (main) "add/remove crashed when starting the iso image of feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83635
[10:56] <dsas> coNP: grub isn't it?
[10:56] <sfllaw> coNP: I believe it's syslinux.
[10:56] <coNP> not grub
[10:56] <coNP> have a look at it
[10:56] <dsas> oh /me scrolls up. sorry.
[10:56] <sfllaw> It's isolinux.bin.
[10:56] <sfllaw> Strangely, packages.ubuntu.com doesn't seem to report that.
[10:58] <sfllaw> Hold on...
[10:58] <sfllaw> Yup, syslinux.
[10:59] <sfllaw> /usr/lib/syslinux/isolinux.bin.
[10:59] <sfllaw> That's a wishlist bug, I suppose.
[10:59] <coNP> sfllaw: sure, that not bootcd | debian-cd ?
[10:59] <coNP> Importance was the easier part, I guess :)
[11:00] <sfllaw> coNP: I just asked Tollef.
[11:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83636 in hwdb-client (main) "[apport]  hwdb-gui crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83636
[11:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83637 in network-manager (main) "Network-manager doesn't show any wireless network on ipw2200" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83637
[11:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83639 in pootle (universe) "unable to run pootle, possible problem with python 2.4  2.5 upgrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83639
[11:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83640 in amarok (main) "ipod option disappeared in amarok mediadevices-plugins list" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83640
[11:30] <Nafallo> hej simira :-)
[11:41] <gnomefreak> apport-retrace isnt as fun as it sounds
[11:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83641 in postgresql (universe) "postgres-8.1_8.1.4-7: Table has type character varying, but query expects character varying." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83641
[11:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83642 in Ubuntu "fancy isolinux screen on install isos hang xen/kvm HVM guests" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83642
[11:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83643 in gnome-app-install (main) "[apport]  gnome-app-install crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83643
[11:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83644 in alsa-lib (main) "alsa-lib make's totem-xine crash (edgy amd64)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83644
[12:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83645 in k3b (main) "k3b can't burn cd's" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83645
[12:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83646 in metacity (main) "another metacity crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83646
[12:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83647 in gnome-cups-manager (main) "crash while editing panel" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83647