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n2diydude_: hi dude_05:35
dude_i just got this box working on the net and i want to get the rest of the house away from windows05:35
dude_n2diy i talked to you an hour ago i think05:35
n2diydude_: nooooo, I just suggested you join here!05:36
dude_i was on the other comp "newbie" why did it pick dude for a nick name?05:37
n2diydude_: you where on ubuntu as dude_,  you changed channels to ubuntu-marketing, but the channel server remembered your nick from ubuntu.05:38
dude_my kids like to play games wine wont do any other suggestions?05:40
AyanamiWhat games.05:41
n2diydude_: let them have a winders box that only plays games, and everything else is done on Ubuntu?05:42
dude_sims05:42
AyanamiThe Windows box for games sounds like a good bet.05:43
dude_this is new should i adress inividuals Ayanami or n2diy05:43
n2diydude_: both? are you familiar with command line completion using the tab key?05:44
dude_no nothing happened05:44
n2diydude_: what happens when you type in n2, and then hit the tab key?05:45
dude_n2diy: 05:45
dude_Ayanami: 05:45
dude_cool05:45
n2diy:)05:46
Ayanami:)05:46
dude_ok im 40 and slow please be patient05:46
dude_:)05:46
AyanamiI have all the time in the world.05:46
n2diyI'm 50, and still slow.05:46
dude_i will ask my kids they have this down pat05:47
n2diyI have two goal is life, the first one is to save the universe, so far so good. The second one is to live forever, and , again, so far, so good.05:48
dude_should i hook the two comps up with fire wire or some thing or keep them seperate?05:48
n2diydude_: If all the winders box is going to do is play games, why network it?05:49
n2diydude_: In fact, it would be a point of attack on your network.05:50
AyanamiIf you are going to network it, buy a router or a second card and throw that in to another Ubuntu box, then let the Windows box have restricted access to the internet.05:50
AyanamiSome of the games may want internet access.05:50
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AyanamiOne windows lappy, one dual booter.05:51
n2diyAyanami: hmmm, then yes, a router and firewall.05:51
dude_n2diy: i have open office, that should be compatable with ms office for school reports?05:52
Ayanami(I'm new to this Ubuntu stuff, I tried it out a few years ago, but didn't see what it was yet. Now, its kinda nice. I'm not ZOMG!!!!! since I'm used to Gnome and stuff, but its a lot easier to shooting myself with Gentoo repeatedly.)05:52
=== Ayanami honestly wonders why schools want .doc files. Do they really want infected by macro viruses?
AyanamiAnd yes, Open Office is functionally compatible with MS Office, I believe. :)05:52
n2diydude_: yes it should, but that is a good reason to keep a winders box handy to, to test it. I haven't any problems with OO, but I'm not doing any mission critical stuff with it, like homework.05:53
dude_the teachers want web pages attached to there work as well05:53
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AyanamiThey want what.05:54
Ayanaminotepad. :)05:54
Ayanaminotepad makes web pages just fine.05:54
n2diydude_: So the kids are turning in there homework on floppies, or what?05:54
n2diy*in on05:55
dude_when the kids do reports the teachers want web pages attached to the report05:55
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dude_flash memory sticks05:55
AyanamiThought so, flash sticks.05:55
AyanamiThey must have those XP boxes locked down tight, or they must not realize what they're doing.05:55
n2diydude_: I don't see any problem with that.05:55
n2diyAyanami: Yep, just a new way to spread stuff.05:56
dude_thank you tonight is my night to make sure teeth are brushed gotta go05:56
AyanamiWelcome.05:57
n2diydude_: Ayanami, yep me too, I'm going to turn into a pumpking soon, ttyl.05:57
AyanamiNight. :)05:57
AyanamiOh!05:57
AyanamiIs there a primer I can read on why Ubuntu is "better" than other distros?05:57
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n2diyAyanami: your reading it!05:58
AyanamiHeh. :)05:59
n2diyAyanami: where else would you find real time support like this?05:59
AyanamiI tried #Gentoo once.06:00
AyanamiNEVER AGAIN.06:00
AyanamiI think help is decided on how l33t your system specs are.06:00
n2diyAyanami: ah, noobs not welcome?06:00
AyanamiMy system wasn't l33t enough to attract any attention.06:00
n2diyAyanami: umm, what's l33t?06:00
AyanamiAs in, "Define the term" or "what do they consider a computer system to be l33t?"06:01
n2diyAyanami: ok, but I still don't know what's l33t? Are you going to make me google for it ? :006:02
AyanamiNo, you don't need to. :)06:02
Ayanamil33t is a leetspeek term meaning "elite."06:02
AyanamiIt was originally a letter substitution cypher used by BBS people to hide the fact they were talking about illegal software from BBS word filters.06:02
n2diyAyanami: well, if you don't tell me, I will need to! Or don't you know either?06:02
n2diyAyanami: Ah, I see, tnx, good night.06:03
AyanamiNow, it's a term that denotes "cool" or "elite" on the internet. Such as, "My system is l33t."06:03
AyanamiYou are welcome. :)06:03
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sladenare people gobbying the latest UWN?11:09
sladensomerville32: gobby?11:09
sladenis it on gobby.ubuntu.com?11:09
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elkbuntusladen, not afaik.. gimme a sec, i'll find details11:11
sladenelkbuntu: thanks, ta11:12
elkbuntuhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/EditingPolicies11:12
elkbuntui hope the right ip is in there... if not.. it'll be something to do with juliux11:13
tonyyarussoubuntu.juliux.de11:13
sladenelkbuntu: groovy, excellent11:13
tonyyarussoI think11:13
juliuxsladen, the host is ubuntu.juliux.de11:14
tonyyarussoI rock11:14
tonyyarusso:)11:14
elkbuntuthe password as as per the wiki page though11:14
elkbuntus/as as/is as/11:14
juliuxelkbuntu, the ip is right11:14
elkbuntucool11:15
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tonyyarussoanybody know what educational background would be necessary to work for Canonical?11:18
elkbuntunot the foggiest11:18
tonyyarussohrm11:19
tonyyarussoelkbuntu: do you work in tech professionally at all?11:19
elkbuntutonyyarusso, no11:19
tonyyarussodang11:19
elkbuntutonyyarusso, as tech as i get is web dev11:19
tonyyarussoI'm soliciting people's brains to try to find out some stuff11:19
tonyyarussoI'm trying to figure out if there is such a thing as a degree that focuses on using software rather than making it.  As in, Apache config and maintenance, desktop use, multi-user system administration, etc., but with very little emphasis on coding.  All I can find is computer science stuff that's all like "we'll teach you C, you figure the rest out later"11:21
elkbuntuwell.. over here you go to tech colleges for that sort of edu11:23
KenSentMetonyyarusso: it is possible11:23
KenSentMeIn Holland we have such courses11:23
tonyyarussoKenSentMe: Know what it's called in English?11:23
KenSentMetonyyarusso: no idea11:23
tonyyarussoKenSentMe: Know what it's called in Dutch?11:24
KenSentMetonyyarusso: communication technology is one11:25
tonyyarussoI wonder if the sounder ML would be useful for this...11:25
tonyyarussoOr maybe Canonical HR, if they have any spare time11:25
tonyyarussoThis looks somewhat appealing: http://www.flemingc.on.ca/Full-time/ProgramDisplay.cfm?ProgramCode=CTY11:28
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nixternaljuliux: you got mail!03:42
juliuxnixternal, seems paypal is a strange company03:45
nixternalyes they are, but they fixed it, just took them forever03:46
juliuxhehe03:47
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nixternalthat's good, I left you email in my inbox so I wouldn't forget about it03:49
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jendajuliux: stickers on their way :)05:51
juliuxjenda, to you or to me?05:52
jendawell, on their way to me for now... ;)05:52
juliuxcool05:52
jendaAre you OK with getting them around tuesday-wednesday next week?05:52
juliuxyes it's ok05:52
jendaI'd greatly prefer not having to go to the office till friday.05:52
jendacool05:52
juliuxjenda, if you find time take a look at  http://ubuntu.juliux.de/edubuntu_back.png and http://ubuntu.juliux.de/edubuntu_front.png05:59
jendalooks goo06:03
jendad06:03
jendaUbuntu and Xubuntu should be capitalised, juliux 06:03
juliuxhmpf06:03
juliuxkubuntu not?06:03
juliuxah you mean only the word not the logo right?06:03
jendayep06:04
jendaKubuntu already is.06:04
jendaand the official URL for ubuntu is ubuntu.com06:04
juliuxi kno06:05
juliuxw06:05
jendaplease use that, not ubuntulinux.org06:05
jendaoh, and Edubuntu should be capitalised too :)06:05
jendaand now, I'm off.06:05
juliuxbut i looks strange if you have a .org address by xubuntu and kubuntu and a .com bei ubuntu06:05
juliuxit06:05
jendahm06:05
juliuxalso .org by edubuntu06:06
jendastill better than having ubuntulinux next to xubuntu and kubuntu as opposed to xubuntulinux etc, IMO.06:06
juliuxhm06:06
jendaI gotta study, sorry.06:06
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rbs-titohi06:09
jendahey rbs-tito 06:16
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tsmithejenda, i thought you were out?06:26
jendatsmithe: I am :)06:29
jendaI just walk around the computer every now and then.06:29
jendaout = couch.06:30
tsmithehehe06:30
tsmithei thought your pc rung when you were pung?06:30
jendatons of printed pages, pens, pot of tea, dictionay  couch06:30
tsmithe:)06:30
jenda|couch - computer| = not much06:30
jenda:)06:31
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jendahehe06:31
tsmithethen again, the bed is too near the laptop06:31
tsmitheso either way i get distracted06:31
jendahehe06:31
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tsmitheso.. i'm off06:31
jendaspeaking of which, I'm really out ;)06:31
jenda06:31
tsmithestopit!: P06:32
tsmithei really should fix utf06:32
tsmithenow... if my locale is "en_GB.UTF-8" why can't i see it?06:39
jendahey meatballhat!06:54
jenda(just noticed you joined 3 hours ago...)06:54
jendaI'll finally have some time for teh project after friday.06:55
tsmithediy?06:55
tsmitheor summat new?06:55
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meatballhatjenda: hallo?07:24
jendaoy07:27
jendatsmithe: diy07:27
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jenda:)07:27
=== jenda moves on to the next chapter: parliamentarism
beunolol07:28
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beunohave fun jenda07:31
jendaI won't, I can guarantee that :)07:37
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beunojenda: ping, and good luck with it, I went a bit overboard10:14
jendabeuno: gotcha.10:14
jendawhew10:16
jendabeuno: can I quote parts to jono later on?10:16
jendabeuno: contacting carlos is a great idea.10:17
jendaI'll pay it more attention after friday.10:17
jendathanks for the email :)10:17
beunojenda: you can do resend, quote, publish10:19
beunoyou con creative commons license on that  ;)10:19
beuno*con = got10:20
beunonp, I'll be on a mini vacation from friday to sunday, so I won't be much on IRC, but will answer/read emails10:20
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beuno!seen somerville3210:21
jendahehe :) ok10:22
jendaooh, thanks :) - i'll get back to that next week, too.10:22
jendaFIY, I'm going to be fafk Feb 17 - Mar 1810:22
jendafafk = far away from keyboard10:22
beunoI'll have most of my part finished by next week10:23
beunoaaah, that's a long time!10:23
beunoit's going to be pretty quite around here!10:23
beunoquiet10:23
beunooh, jenda, quick question, #uluga channel lost the redirect  :/   any idea why/how?10:26
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ausimageHello I was wondering what issue of UWN is next, so I can post an article for the Scribes Team.10:58
jenda#3011:01
jendabeuno: what redirect?11:02
jendabeuno: oh11:02
ausimageI will post there... what is the date it will be released?11:02
beunofrom #uluga to #ubuntu-ar11:02
jendabeuno: you didn't set mlock11:02
jendabeuno: /cs set #uluga mlock +if #ubuntu-ar11:02
jendaausimage: not sure...11:03
beunoaaah, right, done, thanks  ;)11:03
ausimagejenda we have our next meeting on the Feb 15th...11:03
jendaI'll be 20 years and one day on that day :)11:05
jendaausimage: feel free to add a notice to the UWN.11:05
jendait should be out very soon.11:05
Vorianwoo hoo happy soon to be birthday jenda :)11:05
ausimagejenda you in gobby with it??11:05
jendaausimage: no idea11:06
jendaausimage: check the wiki - if it doesn't say gotogobby, you can edit there.11:06
ausimageit does say that11:06
ausimagewhere is UWN30 in gobby11:06
jendahmm11:07
jendaubuntu.juliux.de11:07
jendaI think.11:07
ausimagejenda it was a password there11:08
jendaufl@ftw11:09
ausimage*wants11:09
jendathat's teh passwordz11:09
ausimagedoes not like that password11:10
jendagah11:10
jendano idea...11:11
ausimagejenda is there a different place I can send or post the article 11:12
jendaumm...11:13
jendaumm...11:13
jendaiDunno :)11:13
jendayou can try cody somerville11:13
ausimagestumped the pannel ;)11:14
jendaelkbuntu - you know anything 'bout it?11:14
ausimagejenda not sure if this help but edit line on UWN 30 say last edited 2007-02-05 19:12:36 by PaulSladen11:15
jendawell... hm...11:16
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jendaausimage: please try that password, it should work.11:18
jendaufl@ftw11:19
ausimageit does not :(11:19
beunoausimage, jenda, the UWN is on gobby11:20
jendabeuno: yeah, but the password doesn't seem to work.11:20
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beunowell, it's a different port11:20
jendalol11:20
beuno652311:20
jendawhich one? :)11:20
ausimageahhhh there the issue!11:20
ausimagebingo thanks beuno....11:21
beunonp11:21
ausimagebeuno all I have to do is just place the article... then I can quit right, no other steps??11:25
beunoausimage: yeap, anything you write gets saved automatically11:25
beunoit streams everything in real time11:25
ausimagecool first time using it....11:25
ausimagethanks11:25
beunonp, you'll get used to it fast11:26
ausimagebeuno you know about Scribes Team right???11:26
beunoausimage: I've seen it here and there, but I honestly don't know what it is  ;)11:27
ausimagebeuno we a team that is working to improve the meeting process...11:27
beunoreally?  that sounds great!11:28
ausimageright now we are focusing on getting good agendas logs and summaries...11:28
ausimageand having them located centrally....11:28
beunoI love the idea, it will be very usefull11:28
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ausimagebeuno: you should join us.... pop into #ubuntu-scribes or ScribesTeam on the wiki11:29
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