[05:35] <n2diy> dude_: hi dude_
[05:35] <dude_> i just got this box working on the net and i want to get the rest of the house away from windows
[05:35] <dude_> n2diy i talked to you an hour ago i think
[05:36] <n2diy> dude_: nooooo, I just suggested you join here!
[05:37] <dude_> i was on the other comp "newbie" why did it pick dude for a nick name?
[05:38] <n2diy> dude_: you where on ubuntu as dude_,  you changed channels to ubuntu-marketing, but the channel server remembered your nick from ubuntu.
[05:40] <dude_> my kids like to play games wine wont do any other suggestions?
[05:41] <Ayanami> What games.
[05:42] <n2diy> dude_: let them have a winders box that only plays games, and everything else is done on Ubuntu?
[05:42] <dude_> sims
[05:43] <Ayanami> The Windows box for games sounds like a good bet.
[05:43] <dude_> this is new should i adress inividuals Ayanami or n2diy
[05:44] <n2diy> dude_: both? are you familiar with command line completion using the tab key?
[05:44] <dude_> no nothing happened
[05:45] <n2diy> dude_: what happens when you type in n2, and then hit the tab key?
[05:45] <dude_> n2diy: 
[05:45] <dude_> Ayanami: 
[05:45] <dude_> cool
[05:46] <n2diy> :)
[05:46] <Ayanami> :)
[05:46] <dude_> ok im 40 and slow please be patient
[05:46] <dude_> :)
[05:46] <Ayanami> I have all the time in the world.
[05:46] <n2diy> I'm 50, and still slow.
[05:47] <dude_> i will ask my kids they have this down pat
[05:48] <n2diy> I have two goal is life, the first one is to save the universe, so far so good. The second one is to live forever, and , again, so far, so good.
[05:48] <dude_> should i hook the two comps up with fire wire or some thing or keep them seperate?
[05:49] <n2diy> dude_: If all the winders box is going to do is play games, why network it?
[05:50] <n2diy> dude_: In fact, it would be a point of attack on your network.
[05:50] <Ayanami> If you are going to network it, buy a router or a second card and throw that in to another Ubuntu box, then let the Windows box have restricted access to the internet.
[05:50] <Ayanami> Some of the games may want internet access.
[05:51] <Ayanami> One windows lappy, one dual booter.
[05:51] <n2diy> Ayanami: hmmm, then yes, a router and firewall.
[05:52] <dude_> n2diy: i have open office, that should be compatable with ms office for school reports?
[05:52] <Ayanami> (I'm new to this Ubuntu stuff, I tried it out a few years ago, but didn't see what it was yet. Now, its kinda nice. I'm not ZOMG!!!!! since I'm used to Gnome and stuff, but its a lot easier to shooting myself with Gentoo repeatedly.)
[05:52] <Ayanami> And yes, Open Office is functionally compatible with MS Office, I believe. :)
[05:53] <n2diy> dude_: yes it should, but that is a good reason to keep a winders box handy to, to test it. I haven't any problems with OO, but I'm not doing any mission critical stuff with it, like homework.
[05:53] <dude_> the teachers want web pages attached to there work as well
[05:54] <Ayanami> They want what.
[05:54] <Ayanami> notepad. :)
[05:54] <Ayanami> notepad makes web pages just fine.
[05:54] <n2diy> dude_: So the kids are turning in there homework on floppies, or what?
[05:55] <n2diy> *in on
[05:55] <dude_> when the kids do reports the teachers want web pages attached to the report
[05:55] <dude_> flash memory sticks
[05:55] <Ayanami> Thought so, flash sticks.
[05:55] <Ayanami> They must have those XP boxes locked down tight, or they must not realize what they're doing.
[05:55] <n2diy> dude_: I don't see any problem with that.
[05:56] <n2diy> Ayanami: Yep, just a new way to spread stuff.
[05:56] <dude_> thank you tonight is my night to make sure teeth are brushed gotta go
[05:57] <Ayanami> Welcome.
[05:57] <n2diy> dude_: Ayanami, yep me too, I'm going to turn into a pumpking soon, ttyl.
[05:57] <Ayanami> Night. :)
[05:57] <Ayanami> Oh!
[05:57] <Ayanami> Is there a primer I can read on why Ubuntu is "better" than other distros?
[05:58] <n2diy> Ayanami: your reading it!
[05:59] <Ayanami> Heh. :)
[05:59] <n2diy> Ayanami: where else would you find real time support like this?
[06:00] <Ayanami> I tried #Gentoo once.
[06:00] <Ayanami> NEVER AGAIN.
[06:00] <Ayanami> I think help is decided on how l33t your system specs are.
[06:00] <n2diy> Ayanami: ah, noobs not welcome?
[06:00] <Ayanami> My system wasn't l33t enough to attract any attention.
[06:00] <n2diy> Ayanami: umm, what's l33t?
[06:01] <Ayanami> As in, "Define the term" or "what do they consider a computer system to be l33t?"
[06:02] <n2diy> Ayanami: ok, but I still don't know what's l33t? Are you going to make me google for it ? :0
[06:02] <Ayanami> No, you don't need to. :)
[06:02] <Ayanami> l33t is a leetspeek term meaning "elite."
[06:02] <Ayanami> It was originally a letter substitution cypher used by BBS people to hide the fact they were talking about illegal software from BBS word filters.
[06:02] <n2diy> Ayanami: well, if you don't tell me, I will need to! Or don't you know either?
[06:03] <n2diy> Ayanami: Ah, I see, tnx, good night.
[06:03] <Ayanami> Now, it's a term that denotes "cool" or "elite" on the internet. Such as, "My system is l33t."
[06:03] <Ayanami> You are welcome. :)
[11:09] <sladen> are people gobbying the latest UWN?
[11:09] <sladen> somerville32: gobby?
[11:09] <sladen> is it on gobby.ubuntu.com?
[11:11] <elkbuntu> sladen, not afaik.. gimme a sec, i'll find details
[11:12] <sladen> elkbuntu: thanks, ta
[11:12] <elkbuntu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/EditingPolicies
[11:13] <elkbuntu> i hope the right ip is in there... if not.. it'll be something to do with juliux
[11:13] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu.juliux.de
[11:13] <sladen> elkbuntu: groovy, excellent
[11:13] <tonyyarusso> I think
[11:14] <juliux> sladen, the host is ubuntu.juliux.de
[11:14] <tonyyarusso> I rock
[11:14] <tonyyarusso> :)
[11:14] <elkbuntu> the password as as per the wiki page though
[11:14] <elkbuntu> s/as as/is as/
[11:14] <juliux> elkbuntu, the ip is right
[11:15] <elkbuntu> cool
[11:18] <tonyyarusso> anybody know what educational background would be necessary to work for Canonical?
[11:18] <elkbuntu> not the foggiest
[11:19] <tonyyarusso> hrm
[11:19] <tonyyarusso> elkbuntu: do you work in tech professionally at all?
[11:19] <elkbuntu> tonyyarusso, no
[11:19] <tonyyarusso> dang
[11:19] <elkbuntu> tonyyarusso, as tech as i get is web dev
[11:19] <tonyyarusso> I'm soliciting people's brains to try to find out some stuff
[11:21] <tonyyarusso> I'm trying to figure out if there is such a thing as a degree that focuses on using software rather than making it.  As in, Apache config and maintenance, desktop use, multi-user system administration, etc., but with very little emphasis on coding.  All I can find is computer science stuff that's all like "we'll teach you C, you figure the rest out later"
[11:23] <elkbuntu> well.. over here you go to tech colleges for that sort of edu
[11:23] <KenSentMe> tonyyarusso: it is possible
[11:23] <KenSentMe> In Holland we have such courses
[11:23] <tonyyarusso> KenSentMe: Know what it's called in English?
[11:23] <KenSentMe> tonyyarusso: no idea
[11:24] <tonyyarusso> KenSentMe: Know what it's called in Dutch?
[11:25] <KenSentMe> tonyyarusso: communication technology is one
[11:25] <tonyyarusso> I wonder if the sounder ML would be useful for this...
[11:25] <tonyyarusso> Or maybe Canonical HR, if they have any spare time
[11:28] <tonyyarusso> This looks somewhat appealing: http://www.flemingc.on.ca/Full-time/ProgramDisplay.cfm?ProgramCode=CTY
[03:42] <nixternal> juliux: you got mail!
[03:45] <juliux> nixternal, seems paypal is a strange company
[03:46] <nixternal> yes they are, but they fixed it, just took them forever
[03:47] <juliux> hehe
[03:49] <nixternal> that's good, I left you email in my inbox so I wouldn't forget about it
[05:51] <jenda> juliux: stickers on their way :)
[05:52] <juliux> jenda, to you or to me?
[05:52] <jenda> well, on their way to me for now... ;)
[05:52] <juliux> cool
[05:52] <jenda> Are you OK with getting them around tuesday-wednesday next week?
[05:52] <juliux> yes it's ok
[05:52] <jenda> I'd greatly prefer not having to go to the office till friday.
[05:52] <jenda> cool
[05:59] <juliux> jenda, if you find time take a look at  http://ubuntu.juliux.de/edubuntu_back.png and http://ubuntu.juliux.de/edubuntu_front.png
[06:03] <jenda> looks goo
[06:03] <jenda> d
[06:03] <jenda> Ubuntu and Xubuntu should be capitalised, juliux 
[06:03] <juliux> hmpf
[06:03] <juliux> kubuntu not?
[06:03] <juliux> ah you mean only the word not the logo right?
[06:04] <jenda> yep
[06:04] <jenda> Kubuntu already is.
[06:04] <jenda> and the official URL for ubuntu is ubuntu.com
[06:05] <juliux> i kno
[06:05] <juliux> w
[06:05] <jenda> please use that, not ubuntulinux.org
[06:05] <jenda> oh, and Edubuntu should be capitalised too :)
[06:05] <jenda> and now, I'm off.
[06:05] <juliux> but i looks strange if you have a .org address by xubuntu and kubuntu and a .com bei ubuntu
[06:05] <juliux> it
[06:05] <jenda> hm
[06:06] <juliux> also .org by edubuntu
[06:06] <jenda> still better than having ubuntulinux next to xubuntu and kubuntu as opposed to xubuntulinux etc, IMO.
[06:06] <juliux> hm
[06:06] <jenda> I gotta study, sorry.
[06:09] <rbs-tito> hi
[06:16] <jenda> hey rbs-tito 
[06:26] <tsmithe> jenda, i thought you were out?
[06:29] <jenda> tsmithe: I am :)
[06:29] <jenda> I just walk around the computer every now and then.
[06:30] <jenda> out = couch.
[06:30] <tsmithe> hehe
[06:30] <tsmithe> i thought your pc rung when you were pung?
[06:30] <jenda> tons of printed pages, pens, pot of tea, dictionay  couch
[06:30] <tsmithe> :)
[06:30] <jenda> |couch - computer| = not much
[06:31] <jenda> :)
[06:31] <jenda> hehe
[06:31] <tsmithe> then again, the bed is too near the laptop
[06:31] <tsmithe> so either way i get distracted
[06:31] <jenda> hehe
[06:31] <tsmithe> so.. i'm off
[06:31] <jenda> speaking of which, I'm really out ;)
[06:31] <jenda> 
[06:32] <tsmithe> stopit!: P
[06:32] <tsmithe> i really should fix utf
[06:39] <tsmithe> now... if my locale is "en_GB.UTF-8" why can't i see it?
[06:54] <jenda> hey meatballhat!
[06:54] <jenda> (just noticed you joined 3 hours ago...)
[06:55] <jenda> I'll finally have some time for teh project after friday.
[06:55] <tsmithe> diy?
[06:55] <tsmithe> or summat new?
[07:24] <meatballhat> jenda: hallo?
[07:27] <jenda> oy
[07:27] <jenda> tsmithe: diy
[07:27] <jenda> :)
[07:28] <beuno> lol
[07:31] <beuno> have fun jenda
[07:37] <jenda> I won't, I can guarantee that :)
[10:14] <beuno> jenda: ping, and good luck with it, I went a bit overboard
[10:14] <jenda> beuno: gotcha.
[10:16] <jenda> whew
[10:16] <jenda> beuno: can I quote parts to jono later on?
[10:17] <jenda> beuno: contacting carlos is a great idea.
[10:17] <jenda> I'll pay it more attention after friday.
[10:17] <jenda> thanks for the email :)
[10:19] <beuno> jenda: you can do resend, quote, publish
[10:19] <beuno> you con creative commons license on that  ;)
[10:20] <beuno> *con = got
[10:20] <beuno> np, I'll be on a mini vacation from friday to sunday, so I won't be much on IRC, but will answer/read emails
[10:21] <beuno> !seen somerville32
[10:22] <jenda> hehe :) ok
[10:22] <jenda> ooh, thanks :) - i'll get back to that next week, too.
[10:22] <jenda> FIY, I'm going to be fafk Feb 17 - Mar 18
[10:22] <jenda> fafk = far away from keyboard
[10:23] <beuno> I'll have most of my part finished by next week
[10:23] <beuno> aaah, that's a long time!
[10:23] <beuno> it's going to be pretty quite around here!
[10:23] <beuno> quiet
[10:26] <beuno> oh, jenda, quick question, #uluga channel lost the redirect  :/   any idea why/how?
[10:58] <ausimage> Hello I was wondering what issue of UWN is next, so I can post an article for the Scribes Team.
[11:01] <jenda> #30
[11:02] <jenda> beuno: what redirect?
[11:02] <jenda> beuno: oh
[11:02] <ausimage> I will post there... what is the date it will be released?
[11:02] <beuno> from #uluga to #ubuntu-ar
[11:02] <jenda> beuno: you didn't set mlock
[11:02] <jenda> beuno: /cs set #uluga mlock +if #ubuntu-ar
[11:03] <jenda> ausimage: not sure...
[11:03] <beuno> aaah, right, done, thanks  ;)
[11:03] <ausimage> jenda we have our next meeting on the Feb 15th...
[11:05] <jenda> I'll be 20 years and one day on that day :)
[11:05] <jenda> ausimage: feel free to add a notice to the UWN.
[11:05] <jenda> it should be out very soon.
[11:05] <Vorian> woo hoo happy soon to be birthday jenda :)
[11:05] <ausimage> jenda you in gobby with it??
[11:06] <jenda> ausimage: no idea
[11:06] <jenda> ausimage: check the wiki - if it doesn't say gotogobby, you can edit there.
[11:06] <ausimage> it does say that
[11:06] <ausimage> where is UWN30 in gobby
[11:07] <jenda> hmm
[11:07] <jenda> ubuntu.juliux.de
[11:07] <jenda> I think.
[11:08] <ausimage> jenda it was a password there
[11:09] <jenda> ufl@ftw
[11:09] <ausimage> *wants
[11:09] <jenda> that's teh passwordz
[11:10] <ausimage> does not like that password
[11:10] <jenda> gah
[11:11] <jenda> no idea...
[11:12] <ausimage> jenda is there a different place I can send or post the article 
[11:13] <jenda> umm...
[11:13] <jenda> umm...
[11:13] <jenda> iDunno :)
[11:13] <jenda> you can try cody somerville
[11:14] <ausimage> stumped the pannel ;)
[11:14] <jenda> elkbuntu - you know anything 'bout it?
[11:15] <ausimage> jenda not sure if this help but edit line on UWN 30 say last edited 2007-02-05 19:12:36 by PaulSladen
[11:16] <jenda> well... hm...
[11:18] <jenda> ausimage: please try that password, it should work.
[11:19] <jenda> ufl@ftw
[11:19] <ausimage> it does not :(
[11:20] <beuno> ausimage, jenda, the UWN is on gobby
[11:20] <jenda> beuno: yeah, but the password doesn't seem to work.
[11:20] <beuno> well, it's a different port
[11:20] <jenda> lol
[11:20] <beuno> 6523
[11:20] <jenda> which one? :)
[11:20] <ausimage> ahhhh there the issue!
[11:21] <ausimage> bingo thanks beuno....
[11:21] <beuno> np
[11:25] <ausimage> beuno all I have to do is just place the article... then I can quit right, no other steps??
[11:25] <beuno> ausimage: yeap, anything you write gets saved automatically
[11:25] <beuno> it streams everything in real time
[11:25] <ausimage> cool first time using it....
[11:25] <ausimage> thanks
[11:26] <beuno> np, you'll get used to it fast
[11:26] <ausimage> beuno you know about Scribes Team right???
[11:27] <beuno> ausimage: I've seen it here and there, but I honestly don't know what it is  ;)
[11:27] <ausimage> beuno we a team that is working to improve the meeting process...
[11:28] <beuno> really?  that sounds great!
[11:28] <ausimage> right now we are focusing on getting good agendas logs and summaries...
[11:28] <ausimage> and having them located centrally....
[11:28] <beuno> I love the idea, it will be very usefull
[11:29] <ausimage> beuno: you should join us.... pop into #ubuntu-scribes or ScribesTeam on the wiki