| Ubugtu | New bug: #82976 in firefox (main) "Firefox 1.5.09"Manage Bookmarks" does not import Mozilla Bookmarks from floppy" [Undecided,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82976 | 01:02 |
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| Admiral_Chicago | someone want to look at Bug #83483 | 03:31 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 83483 in firefox "[feisty] Unable to install an extension" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83483 | 03:31 |
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| asac | morning | 10:48 |
| asac | lads | 11:02 |
| asac | asd | 11:03 |
| asac | hmm | 11:03 |
| asac | my /log does not work in this channel ;) | 11:04 |
| asac | ok .. now? test test | 11:04 |
| asac | great ... fine | 11:05 |
| asac | gnomefreak: i have found the place to fix the rapid progress-meter for unknown downloads ... though I don't know what is best from a UI point-of-view ... if you can test, let me know! | 12:04 |
| gnomefreak | asac: if you can let me wake up a bit i can test it | 12:36 |
| asac | :) | 12:37 |
| asac | yeah ... I will have lunch in a about 20 min | 12:37 |
| asac | maybe afterwards? | 12:37 |
| asac | btw, morning :) | 12:37 |
| gnomefreak | sure | 12:38 |
| gnomefreak | moring | 12:38 |
| gnomefreak | morning | 12:39 |
| gnomefreak | AlexLatchford: ubuntulog is the log bot for #ubuntu-meeting. they logs are there. we can maybe come up with something to do instead of minutes | 12:40 |
| asac | maybe we can attach the logs to the minutes page? as a reference? | 12:40 |
| gnomefreak | true | 12:41 |
| AlexLatchford | well there is a Bot underway to get this process defined | 12:51 |
| AlexLatchford | I am on the Scribes team who are actively setting up a MeetingBot | 12:51 |
| AlexLatchford | so hopefully by the next meeting it will be sorted so we can use it | 12:52 |
| asac | if we need logs ... i did a dump of the irssi window | 12:52 |
| asac | k lunch | 12:58 |
| gnomefreak | so i decline new memebers and ask them to join us in here? | 12:59 |
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| === gnomefreak found out last night what i was doing wrong while building packages :( | ||
| AlexLatchford | I believe so gnomefreak | 01:29 |
| gnomefreak | i wrote him email explaining to join us here | 01:30 |
| AlexLatchford | not all new members, just members that appear to have little experience | 01:30 |
| AlexLatchford | (not proven experience) | 01:30 |
| gnomefreak | he has 0 karma and a member of bugsquad | 01:30 |
| AlexLatchford | then he would be a candidate for the mentoring scheme | 01:30 |
| gnomefreak | bugsquad is open team | 01:30 |
| AlexLatchford | yes | 01:31 |
| gnomefreak | couple more coffees and should be ready for patch :) | 01:33 |
| === gnomefreak hates confusing ass guides | ||
| AlexLatchford | lol | 01:34 |
| AlexLatchford | link? | 01:34 |
| gnomefreak | the debhelper guide tells you to rename everything -debhelper | 01:34 |
| gnomefreak | http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/basic-debhelper.html | 01:35 |
| gnomefreak | that only applies to this package hello because you are grabbing hello-debhelper | 01:36 |
| gnomefreak | its the only package in repos package-debhelper | 01:36 |
| asac | gnomefreak: you have your slow system at hand? | 01:36 |
| gnomefreak | asac: you changed the settings for speed again? | 01:36 |
| gnomefreak | i wont have that for a few more hours gf is sleeping | 01:37 |
| asac | hehe ... yes a new improvement | 01:37 |
| asac | ok | 01:37 |
| asac | then I'll wait :) | 01:37 |
| gnomefreak | k | 01:37 |
| gnomefreak | i think im gonna try building ff again while i have time :( | 01:38 |
| AlexLatchford | lol fair enough | 01:38 |
| gnomefreak | AlexLatchford: what processor is in your pc? | 02:03 |
| AlexLatchford | erm I believe an AMD 2800+ | 02:03 |
| gnomefreak | thats 1.* ghz? | 02:03 |
| AlexLatchford | about 4 years old now | 02:03 |
| AlexLatchford | I believe 2.08 | 02:04 |
| gnomefreak | crap | 02:04 |
| gnomefreak | ty | 02:04 |
| === gnomefreak thinking about bringing my 450mhz down here with this one but than gf losses pc :( | ||
| asac | gnomefreak: buy her a new one :) | 02:07 |
| gnomefreak | :) | 02:07 |
| gnomefreak | i might have hands on slow laptop soon | 02:08 |
| gnomefreak | slow == maybe p2 if im lucky | 02:08 |
| asac | yeah ... hopefully we won't need slow machines to reproduce in future ... but coincidentially they only pop up on slow maschines | 02:09 |
| asac | lucky? you expect a p1 ? | 02:09 |
| gnomefreak | yeah and im wondering if maybe that is the cause and tell them to get new proc :) | 02:09 |
| gnomefreak | yes its a 2000 year build of a dell | 02:09 |
| gnomefreak | i expect it to be slow as crap | 02:10 |
| asac | hmmm ... might be PIII then | 02:10 |
| gnomefreak | pIII works for me :) | 02:10 |
| asac | in 2000 ... hasn't there already p4 been shipped (maybe not in laptops) | 02:10 |
| === gnomefreak will give her this pc if i go out and get a new one (i wanted to test vista but ram isnt enough) | ||
| asac | rofl ... a gnomefreak using vista? | 02:11 |
| gnomefreak | i wanted to test it for my friends they wanted it and i cant get them to use ubuntu, they are scared | 02:11 |
| asac | yeah ... i always say to my friends ... if you use windows then you are alone :) | 02:12 |
| asac | i won't help you ;) | 02:12 |
| gnomefreak | good point | 02:12 |
| gnomefreak | when dh_make asks what type of package always want single binary? unless using cdbs ofcourse? | 02:14 |
| asac | you want single package ... unless you prepare a more complex package | 02:19 |
| asac | e.g. firefox is not a single package | 02:19 |
| asac | as there are various binary packages produced from it | 02:19 |
| asac | but if you use dh_make ... you should probably go for single package | 02:19 |
| gnomefreak | ok cool | 02:19 |
| asac | i don't use dh_make :) ... but for getting started its ok | 02:20 |
| gnomefreak | now that im past the package-debhelper issue i should be better now. you do it manually? | 02:20 |
| asac | usually yes. | 02:20 |
| asac | if lazy I take another package I find well packaged and use that as a template :) | 02:21 |
| gnomefreak | :) | 02:21 |
| asac | but initial package with dh_make is good way to go. | 02:22 |
| gnomefreak | seems almost like im doing double the work. without dh_make you change files by hand (for most part) and i still check them after using dh_make | 02:22 |
| asac | yeah ... but maybe you won't know which files are needed without dh_make | 02:25 |
| gnomefreak | rule, changelog, control for the most part | 02:26 |
| === gnomefreak has already tried making those for an unpackaged packagge adn failed badly | ||
| gnomefreak | this guide is so wrong | 02:29 |
| gnomefreak | brb but if anyone can make sense out of this please try: http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/342651 | 02:30 |
| asac | gnomefreak: what are you trying to do? | 02:35 |
| asac | setup a completely NEW firefox package from scratch? | 02:35 |
| asac | it complains that your directoy is just names firefox not firefox-2.0.0.1 | 02:36 |
| gnomefreak | im not building from scratch | 02:37 |
| asac | then you won't need dh_make :) | 02:37 |
| asac | dh_make is just used for initial package creation | 02:38 |
| gnomefreak | ohhhh | 02:38 |
| asac | ... or upgrading upstream source | 02:38 |
| gnomefreak | oh | 02:38 |
| asac | but that would fail for a package like firefox :) | 02:38 |
| gnomefreak | *slaps_self* | 02:38 |
| asac | building is pretty simple | 02:38 |
| asac | apt-get source firefox | 02:38 |
| asac | then switch to firefox dir | 02:38 |
| asac | and run | 02:38 |
| asac | dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot | 02:38 |
| asac | you need fakeroot package as well as build-essential installed to get this going | 02:39 |
| gnomefreak | i have it | 02:39 |
| asac | then the build will complain about any missing build-dependencies | 02:39 |
| gnomefreak | does pbuilder reun dpkg-buildpackage? | 02:39 |
| gnomefreak | s/reun/run | 02:39 |
| asac | yes ... dpkg-buildpackage is the normal way to do it | 02:39 |
| asac | pbuilder invokes that | 02:39 |
| asac | + installs your dependencies | 02:40 |
| asac | however if you want to develop (e.g. try patches) on your source ... don't do pbuilder | 02:40 |
| gnomefreak | ok change files that debuild -S -kKEYID than use pbuilder? | 02:40 |
| gnomefreak | oh | 02:40 |
| asac | debuild is more high-level than dpkg-buildpackage | 02:40 |
| asac | but should work as well | 02:40 |
| gnomefreak | ok lets try this :) | 02:41 |
| asac | good luck :-P | 02:41 |
| gnomefreak | ty | 02:42 |
| gnomefreak | so far so good :) | 02:47 |
| gnomefreak | should i have removed all *.CVS? | 02:56 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #83564 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashes on click to focus" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83564 | 02:56 |
| asac | no | 02:57 |
| asac | no atm | 02:57 |
| asac | :) | 02:58 |
| asac | s/no/not/ | 02:58 |
| gnomefreak | ok got alot of warnings about them | 02:58 |
| asac | during generation of diff.gz? | 02:58 |
| asac | running debbuild? | 02:58 |
| asac | or dpkg-buildpackage? | 02:58 |
| gnomefreak | debuild -S will run litian for you | 02:59 |
| gnomefreak | and thats where the errors came from | 02:59 |
| asac | actually its bad practice ... but you can ignore the warnings :) | 02:59 |
| asac | even errors? | 02:59 |
| asac | hehe | 02:59 |
| gnomefreak | no just warnings sorry | 02:59 |
| asac | yeah ... just ignore them ... its been forever that way ... its indeed good, because upstream wants patches to submitted only if generated with cvs diff | 03:00 |
| gnomefreak | it built the sources fine from what i was able to tell | 03:00 |
| gnomefreak | ah | 03:00 |
| asac | yeah ... you ended up with generated .deb files? | 03:00 |
| gnomefreak | doing that now | 03:00 |
| gnomefreak | pbuilder is doing that | 03:00 |
| asac | ah ok ... debuild and dpkg-buildpackage should do it too | 03:03 |
| gnomefreak | debuild builds source and dpkg-buildpackage builds the debs? | 03:03 |
| asac | no ... both do everything ... if you don't pass any special options | 03:04 |
| asac | for instance | 03:04 |
| gnomefreak | ah | 03:04 |
| asac | dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -kkeyid | 03:04 |
| asac | will build and sign with keyid | 03:04 |
| gnomefreak | cool | 03:04 |
| asac | dunno about debuild ... quite a bit since I used it last time | 03:04 |
| asac | but afaik just debuild -kkeyid should do the trick | 03:05 |
| gnomefreak | it does same Now we build the source package using debuild, a wrapper script for dpkg-buildpackage: | 03:05 |
| asac | ok ... i talked to pitti ... the idea is that for now we (developers) to run apport-retrace and don't ask the user to do it for us... later this will be automated in launchpad | 03:09 |
| gnomefreak | ok so only devels have to run it? | 03:09 |
| asac | yeah ... our team :) | 03:09 |
| gnomefreak | as long as it has the full coredump | 03:09 |
| asac | are there reports without? | 03:10 |
| gnomefreak | asac: used to be i think now they should all have them | 03:10 |
| asac | ok ... then lets just look ahead :) ... for those that don't have ask the user to reproduce and send new report (with coredump) ... if he cannot reproduce, close. | 03:11 |
| gnomefreak | after this is built i will try the apport-retrace on a bug see what happens | 03:11 |
| asac | great ... let me know if there are any problems ;) | 03:11 |
| gnomefreak | ok | 03:11 |
| gnomefreak | should we upload the retrace to bug report? | 03:11 |
| asac | sure | 03:12 |
| asac | maybe add a tag needs-retrace until this is done | 03:12 |
| asac | or need-retrace | 03:12 |
| asac | but lets wait till the tag page is set up | 03:12 |
| gnomefreak | k | 03:13 |
| gnomefreak | i think a wiki for "us" on how to run retrace might be helpful (for atleast the new members) | 03:15 |
| gnomefreak | might have one already | 03:17 |
| asac | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport?highlight=%28apport%29 | 03:18 |
| gnomefreak | im looking at it | 03:18 |
| gnomefreak | this is gonna be hard if we have to have smae version installed with same plugins | 03:34 |
| asac | hmm | 03:34 |
| asac | no | 03:34 |
| asac | :) | 03:34 |
| asac | at least for same version | 03:34 |
| asac | for same plugins ... lets see how it works out | 03:34 |
| gnomefreak | is fiestys differnet than edgys in that sense | 03:34 |
| asac | you can setup chroot for edgy/feisty/dapper et al | 03:34 |
| gnomefreak | might have to | 03:35 |
| asac | i think edgy + feisty would be enough for now | 03:35 |
| gnomefreak | k | 03:35 |
| asac | i currently have no dapper either ... though if there are lots of reports on dapper I will setup one in future | 03:35 |
| === gnomefreak gonna learn hwo to set up a chroot now :) | ||
| asac | sudo debootstrap edgy /to/some/dir/where/you/want/the/chroot :) | 03:36 |
| gnomefreak | thats it? | 03:37 |
| asac | yes | 03:42 |
| asac | after that you can chroot /to/some/dir/where/you/want/the/chroot | 03:43 |
| asac | might need to setup /etc/apt/sources.list etc. | 03:43 |
| asac | but in general ... yes | 03:43 |
| asac | have not yet managed (nor really tried) to start a special gnome session inside a chroot ... but usually one does not need that | 03:44 |
| asac | i have http://pastebin.ca/342750 in my /etc/fstab | 03:46 |
| asac | in that way I have the same home directory in the chroot | 03:46 |
| asac | and proc is always good to have too | 03:46 |
| asac | in addition you can put a file called /etc/debian_chroot (within the chroot) and put some name for the chroot in there | 03:48 |
| asac | in that way base extends its prompt so you can tell in what chroot you are | 03:48 |
| asac | s/base/bash/ | 03:48 |
| gnomefreak | everything goes into the chroot dir? | 03:49 |
| asac | what? | 03:49 |
| asac | there will be a complete system installed in it (except kernel) | 03:49 |
| gnomefreak | the crash report? | 03:49 |
| asac | you can do anything you do in your normal system when in a chroot | 03:49 |
| gnomefreak | so like i would cd /dir/edgy-chroot than run anything at that point? | 03:50 |
| asac | no | 03:50 |
| asac | you say | 03:50 |
| asac | chroot /dir/edgy-chroot | 03:50 |
| asac | to switch into it | 03:50 |
| asac | then you can run anything you want | 03:51 |
| asac | you might need to adduser first | 03:51 |
| asac | does that answer your question? | 03:51 |
| gnomefreak | ah ok | 03:51 |
| gnomefreak | k ill try it | 03:52 |
| gnomefreak | ok update: pbuilder is being a b*tch witha few packages so i put that on hold. chroot is installing atm. gf isnt feeling good she came down and asked me to run for cold meds so im gonna do that in a bit but im not gonna beable to get to the p2 for a while :( | 04:27 |
| asac | np | 04:32 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #83578 in firefox (main) "when X server is configured with 16bit color firefox crashes on some pages" [Undecided,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83578 | 04:52 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #83536 in firefox (main) "X.org crashes when scrolling in Firefox" [Undecided,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83536 | 04:57 |
| Admiral_Chicago | i freaking hate users. | 05:19 |
| AlexLatchford | whats happened this time.. | 05:20 |
| Admiral_Chicago | hold on, pulling up the bug report. | 05:20 |
| Admiral_Chicago | Bug #83084 | 05:20 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 83084 in bugzilla "Printing of java applets doesn't work with firefox" [Unknown,Rejected] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83084 | 05:20 |
| Admiral_Chicago | I don't ever remember being able to print java applets | 05:21 |
| Admiral_Chicago | well it was rejected upstream, closing it now | 05:21 |
| Admiral_Chicago | gotta run | 05:23 |
| AlexLatchford | hmm I think we need to change the BugMail settings | 05:23 |
| Admiral_Chicago | to do what? | 05:23 |
| AlexLatchford | https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mozillateam-bugs | 05:23 |
| Admiral_Chicago | I think David controls that | 05:23 |
| AlexLatchford | change the bugs to be posted onto this list | 05:23 |
| AlexLatchford | so people can choose whether or not to be subscribed to all bugs | 05:23 |
| Admiral_Chicago | i had seen that list before. I can email david about it | 05:24 |
| AlexLatchford | It doesn't bother me much, but its something that should be changed | 05:24 |
| AlexLatchford | well ill email him about it now | 05:24 |
| Admiral_Chicago | okay you mail him. I still have to send a follow up | 05:25 |
| Admiral_Chicago | btw, I hate the way Karma is done on LP now | 05:25 |
| AlexLatchford | yeah | 05:25 |
| Admiral_Chicago | first they take away 3/4 of my karma, then it went down again, now it hasn't update in several days. | 05:26 |
| Admiral_Chicago | this is really annoying...well i have to get ready for my day | 05:27 |
| AlexLatchford | hmm, mine updated yesterday I think | 05:28 |
| asac | bug 83084 was a duplicate | 05:30 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 83084 in bugzilla "Printing of java applets doesn't work with firefox" [Unknown,Rejected] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83084 | 05:30 |
| asac | Admiral_Chicago: better keep bug open and change upstream url to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=178930 ? | 05:32 |
| Ubugtu | Mozilla bug 178930 in Printing "java applet rendering doesn't show in print preview and doesn't print" [Major,Resolved: worksforme] | 05:32 |
| asac | so keep eyes open what malone interprets as REJECTED in upstream :) | 05:32 |
| asac | DUPLICATE are obviously not rejected ;) | 05:32 |
| Admiral_Chicago | asac can you do that, I have to start my school day | 05:33 |
| AlexLatchford | asac: can you take a look at bugs. #70875 #72018 #83564 they all seem to be narrowing down on a single problem | 05:37 |
| AlexLatchford | to my eyes that is | 05:37 |
| AlexLatchford | bug #70875 | 05:38 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 70875 in firefox "crash gtk_style_realize" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70875 | 05:38 |
| AlexLatchford | bug #72018 | 05:38 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 72018 in firefox "crash gtk_style_realize Segfault when clicking back after failing to watch a video" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72018 | 05:38 |
| AlexLatchford | bug #83564 | 05:38 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 83564 in firefox "Firefox crashes on click to focus" [Undecided,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83564 | 05:38 |
| asac | Admiral_Chicago: actually me is blind ... it is worksforme. sorry for the noise ;) | 05:39 |
| asac | AlexLatchford: ... looking | 05:42 |
| asac | AlexLatchford: hmmm .... wasn't there a report somewhere that rm ~/.gtkrc-2.0 (what is the exact filename?) helps for some? ... or did I dream that ;) | 05:45 |
| AlexLatchford | not sure | 05:45 |
| AlexLatchford | haven't seen it anywhere | 05:45 |
| asac | so what distribution is reporter of bug 83564 running? edgy? | 05:47 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 83564 in firefox "Firefox crashes on click to focus" [Undecided,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83564 | 05:47 |
| AlexLatchford | Yes in the Report is said Edgy | 05:48 |
| AlexLatchford | think they might be linked? | 05:52 |
| asac | the first two yes | 05:54 |
| asac | the last cant tell without symbols | 05:54 |
| AlexLatchford | Ok, well I have made the request for information, I will watch those reports and ping you when I get the information required | 05:55 |
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| gnomefreak | where are we on the tag wiki? (if started) | 06:18 |
| asac | not seen anything :) | 06:18 |
| asac | maybe I will start to set some content up tomorrow on general bug things - as a proposal | 06:19 |
| asac | maybe I come around to tags then too :) | 06:19 |
| === gnomefreak still working as off on getting chroot up and running | ||
| gnomefreak | s/as/ass | 06:21 |
| asac | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot?highlight=%28chroot%29 | 06:21 |
| asac | as a starter | 06:21 |
| gnomefreak | asac: can i change echo mychroot > etc/debian_chroot to use edgy_chroot instead of debian_chroot? | 06:26 |
| asac | what? | 06:27 |
| asac | try what happens | 06:27 |
| asac | you should then see (mychroot) in front of the prompt | 06:28 |
| asac | by default I see nothing | 06:28 |
| gnomefreak | its not letting me in the chroot now | 06:28 |
| asac | what you doing? | 06:28 |
| gnomefreak | sudo chroot /var/chroot but its yelling at me saying wrong password | 06:29 |
| gnomefreak | tells me this guide is screwed since i have followed it word for word | 06:30 |
| gnomefreak | ok fixed sort of | 06:35 |
| gnomefreak | now to redo it | 06:35 |
| asac | sudo | 06:39 |
| asac | you need your own password for that | 06:39 |
| gnomefreak | i did the dchroot (non-root) config | 06:41 |
| gnomefreak | pbuilder hates me something awful. it doesnt want to grab any of the libavahi packages it needs | 06:52 |
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| asac | in chroot? | 07:05 |
| gnomefreak | no | 07:06 |
| gnomefreak | AlexLatchford: and Admiral_Chicago if you guys want to join ubuntu-qa team join #ubuntu bugs and speak up | 07:11 |
| gnomefreak | hes taking applications for it now | 07:11 |
| gnomefreak | goes for anyone else working on bugs for a while | 07:12 |
| asac | who is he? | 07:24 |
| AlexLatchford | sfllaw is the QA Admin | 07:24 |
| asac | is he online? | 07:24 |
| gnomefreak | simon law | 07:24 |
| asac | yeah | 07:24 |
| gnomefreak | asac: yes in #ubuntu-bugs | 07:24 |
| asac | aha | 07:24 |
| gnomefreak | asac: you already have qa access :) | 07:25 |
| asac | ok ... just wondered because he is not on any other channel i am in | 07:25 |
| gnomefreak | he should be in -devel also | 07:25 |
| asac | unfortunately my account will be added to core-dev on Feb 12 ;) | 07:25 |
| asac | next technical board meeting | 07:25 |
| asac | till then I have to creep around a bit :) ... anyway, almost anything I want to edit atm I can do :) | 07:27 |
| asac | if not ... I just ask you :) | 07:27 |
| gnomefreak | :) | 07:28 |
| asac | ok ... I now started to go through thunderbird bugs :) | 07:28 |
| asac | what a mess ;) | 07:28 |
| gnomefreak | should i just install firefox or all of ubuntu-desktop? | 07:28 |
| asac | but its pretty ok ... for those I know there is an upstream bug I added a remote bug without url | 07:28 |
| gnomefreak | for chroot | 07:28 |
| asac | ah | 07:29 |
| asac | install firefox and thunderbird :) | 07:29 |
| gnomefreak | k | 07:29 |
| gnomefreak | btw i had idea | 07:29 |
| asac | if you want to test the complete desktop feeliung you might need to install ubuntu-desktop | 07:29 |
| asac | later | 07:29 |
| asac | and use vncserver or something instead of X-server in chroot | 07:29 |
| gnomefreak | depending on how many people are gonna be doing retraces i think most should use a 32bit and one or 2 have 64bit chroot | 07:29 |
| asac | ah ... ok | 07:30 |
| asac | yes :) | 07:30 |
| asac | i have 64 bit chroots by definition :) | 07:30 |
| gnomefreak | i dont | 07:30 |
| asac | have not yet even set up 32bit | 07:30 |
| asac | maybe then I can take over retracing 64bit reports for now ... while all that have i386 try to do so for 32bit reports? | 07:31 |
| gnomefreak | i have ffeling we are gonna see alot more 32 bit than 64 bit crashes | 07:31 |
| asac | I will setup 32bit chrrots too at some point | 07:31 |
| gnomefreak | i will once i get done with it | 07:31 |
| gnomefreak | so far me and you are only 2 i know of wokring on bugs with a chroot | 07:32 |
| asac | gnomefreak: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mozilla-thunderbird/+bug/46760 | 07:34 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 46760 in mozilla-thunderbird "no icon for mozilla-thunderbird in KDE Panel" [Medium,Confirmed] | 07:34 |
| asac | nevermind | 07:34 |
| asac | :) | 07:34 |
| asac | gnomefreak: .... actually we should add content on wiki that its good to have chroot for testing bugs | 07:35 |
| gnomefreak | agreed but i dont know enough yet to make it :( | 07:37 |
| gnomefreak | from chroot will i have accesss to my $HOME dir? | 07:38 |
| gnomefreak | AlexLatchford: you have 64 bit edgy installed by chance? | 07:40 |
| gnomefreak | shot i forgot nano :( | 07:42 |
| asac | its in the introduction on how to make home accessible | 07:42 |
| asac | -> fstab | 07:42 |
| AlexLatchford | lol strangely no | 07:42 |
| gnomefreak | k im just thinking about staying away from the whole root part of guide | 07:43 |
| gnomefreak | AlexLatchford: edgy at all? | 07:43 |
| AlexLatchford | yep | 07:43 |
| gnomefreak | goodie :) | 07:45 |
| gnomefreak | thats not gonna go over well at all | 07:45 |
| gnomefreak | AlexLatchford: if you run retraces please make a seperate dir. to keep it neat :) | 07:46 |
| gnomefreak | i need to friggin sleep | 07:49 |
| gnomefreak | these people are gonna work on my nerves today | 07:49 |
| === gnomefreak might leave it to asac to screw with it | ||
| gnomefreak | that didnt go as planed at all | 08:00 |
| gnomefreak | how do i run firefox from chroot (making sure it uses edgys) | 08:10 |
| gnomefreak | fixed it :) | 08:15 |
| Admiral_Chicago | sounds like a good time | 08:16 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #83607 in firefox (main) "firefox won't attach/send jpg's" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83607 | 08:20 |
| gnomefreak | not as much as a good time as it sounds :) | 08:23 |
| gnomefreak | asac: got a sec | 08:24 |
| gnomefreak | to change to chroot i will need sudo chroot /var/chroot still by the looks of it. is that ok for doing the retrace in $HOME | 08:25 |
| === gnomefreak thinks mkdir ~/retrace#<bugid> and wget the crashreport than retrace it in same place is that ok as root? | ||
| gnomefreak | ah nevermind as long as i dchroot -d will give me my promtp as $ | 08:28 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #83612 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashes about one minute after closing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83612 | 08:30 |
| gnomefreak | ok adding comments to bugs stating im retracing the crash reports and will upload than see what we can do. (until tags get ready) | 08:35 |
| gnomefreak | or should i assign it to myself until report is uploaded? | 08:35 |
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| gnomefreak | AlexLatchford: are you busy? | 08:37 |
| Admiral_Chicago | i'm not if you need something | 08:38 |
| gnomefreak | i would likesome to go over what we do help him out. jhnjwng applied and i sent him email to join us here to learn and work at it before i can accept his app for membership | 08:38 |
| gnomefreak | s/likesome/like someone | 08:39 |
| Admiral_Chicago | oh i see | 08:39 |
| gnomefreak | if you hav etime for a little bit to get him started (if questions i can answer most of them | 08:39 |
| gnomefreak | im working on getting a retrace done atm | 08:40 |
| Admiral_Chicago | give me a second to finish this work up. | 08:40 |
| gnomefreak | thats fine. im not in a hurry but i forgot to bring it up this morning (i have a sick gf here ive been running up to take care of | 08:41 |
| asac | gnomefreak: is your question void? | 08:41 |
| gnomefreak | he may not even be around | 08:41 |
| gnomefreak | about assigning it to me while running retrace? | 08:42 |
| gnomefreak | that way i have easy way to pull it up while im working on it | 08:42 |
| Admiral_Chicago | actually, I have to run right now, I didn't realize how close it was to my class right now | 08:42 |
| gnomefreak | once uploaded reassign to noone than maybe ping someone to decode the cryptic ass errors :) | 08:43 |
| asac | gnomefreak: so you want to assign bugs to yourself to indicate that you work on them? | 08:44 |
| gnomefreak | one at a time ofcours | 08:44 |
| gnomefreak | e | 08:44 |
| asac | sounds reasonable ... you could even vade through and grab multiple ones in that way. | 08:45 |
| asac | i am currently working on wiki info ... will try to include that | 08:45 |
| gnomefreak | ok and than reassign to noone :) | 08:45 |
| gnomefreak | ok | 08:45 |
| asac | actually you reassign back to mozilla team | 08:45 |
| gnomefreak | yeah | 08:45 |
| asac | either with a new bug state ... or with a new tag added | 08:45 |
| gnomefreak | sorry | 08:45 |
| gnomefreak | not sure what to use as tag at that point. tag == needs reading lol | 08:46 |
| asac | so other see what has to be done. before this can migrate from unconfirmed->needs info or any other transition | 08:46 |
| asac | hehe | 08:46 |
| gnomefreak | once the retraces are done they are pretty much confirmed | 08:47 |
| asac | yeah ... I hope to set lots of infos up as a proposal ... we can then discuss and improve that | 08:47 |
| gnomefreak | should we be retracing all reports on each bug? | 08:47 |
| asac | yeah ... actually i would like to have a more fine grained workflow with some slightly different definitions of what each state means | 08:47 |
| gnomefreak | agreed | 08:47 |
| asac | if they are not from the same incident, then yes | 08:47 |
| asac | its likely that people post "me too" statements that are not true | 08:48 |
| asac | we should sort that out ... and either point him to the right bug or open a new for him. | 08:48 |
| gnomefreak | im gonna run them all on each bug until we refine everything i think | 08:48 |
| asac | yeah ... maybe introduce a tag 'retrace' | 08:49 |
| asac | and add that to the ones you see that have untraced reports in | 08:49 |
| asac | of course if it suites your workflow only | 08:49 |
| gnomefreak | k | 08:50 |
| asac | i think it would be worth to go through all bug reports once before we start with the actual retracing and add such a tag to all of those that contain crash reports :) | 08:50 |
| asac | when retrace is done, the tag can be removed by the one who retraced | 08:50 |
| gnomefreak | ok works for me | 08:51 |
| asac | ah ... when retrace is done, i think we should only attach the most important info ... unless someone explicitly requests more infos | 08:52 |
| asac | usually backtrace info is enough | 08:52 |
| gnomefreak | ok tag set on the bug im working on | 08:52 |
| asac | which one? | 08:52 |
| === gnomefreak cant read them good so only important info is gonna be hard | ||
| gnomefreak | retrace == grabbing retraces of the reportws | 08:53 |
| asac | yeah ... I will outline in wiki what is usually sufficient | 08:53 |
| asac | which bug are you on? | 08:53 |
| gnomefreak | bug 47564 | 08:53 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 47564 in firefox "closes when scrolling" [Medium,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/47564 | 08:53 |
| asac | ok i add a link to get all "retrace" bugs to wiki | 08:54 |
| asac | unfortunately the advanced search mask does not yet support this | 08:54 |
| gnomefreak | ok cool | 08:54 |
| asac | so we use the wiki link workaround | 08:55 |
| gnomefreak | yep | 08:55 |
| gnomefreak | are you working on the apport page? | 08:57 |
| === gnomefreak wondering if we need to apport -d file.crash | tee 2&1 or whatever it is | ||
| asac | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/BugTags | 08:58 |
| asac | no | 08:58 |
| asac | i am not | 08:59 |
| gnomefreak | k | 08:59 |
| === gnomefreak running out of commands | ||
| gnomefreak | apport-retrace -d [filename] doesnt work | 09:07 |
| === gnomefreak feels stupid now ill let you know how it goes | ||
| asac | hmmm ... maybe a bug in apport? | 09:13 |
| asac | what happens? | 09:13 |
| hjmf | hi | 09:14 |
| hjmf | gnomefreak, what error is giving you apport | 09:14 |
| gnomefreak | Traceback (most recent call last): | 09:17 |
| gnomefreak | File "/usr/bin/apport-retrace", line 189, in ? | 09:17 |
| gnomefreak | debug_dir = prepare_debugdir(report, options.cache_dir) | 09:17 |
| gnomefreak | File "/usr/bin/apport-retrace", line 147, in prepare_debugdir | 09:17 |
| gnomefreak | needed_deps.add((pkg, dependency_versions[pkg] )) | 09:17 |
| gnomefreak | KeyError | 09:17 |
| gnomefreak | thats with apport-retrace -d filename | 09:17 |
| gnomefreak | in a edgy chroot | 09:17 |
| asac | can you install feisty apport.deb by hand? | 09:18 |
| hjmf | Not sure if this helps, but at Bug #65914 there is a patch that worked for me | 09:18 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 65914 in apport "apport-retrace -d fails with KeyError" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/65914 | 09:18 |
| hjmf | though I still having errors :S | 09:20 |
| asac | but it works? | 09:20 |
| asac | or not? | 09:20 |
| gnomefreak | asac: i think so but on an edgy chroot? | 09:20 |
| asac | gnomefreak: maybe package installs on edgy? | 09:21 |
| gnomefreak | put deb anywhere and in the chroot just dpkg -i it? | 09:21 |
| gnomefreak | hjmf: those kind of errors? | 09:22 |
| asac | gnomefreak: maybe | 09:22 |
| asac | if it installs than chances are high that it might work | 09:22 |
| hjmf | nope, but: | 09:22 |
| hjmf | Traceback (most recent call last): | 09:22 |
| hjmf | File "/usr/bin/apport-retrace", line 165, in ? | 09:22 |
| hjmf | report.load(open(reportfile)) | 09:22 |
| hjmf | File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/problem_report.py", line 72, in load | 09:22 |
| hjmf | (key, value) = line.split(':', 1) | 09:22 |
| hjmf | sorry, I have to go now. | 09:23 |
| asac | bye | 09:23 |
| gnomefreak | looks like martin is working on the edgy one? | 09:23 |
| gnomefreak | bye | 09:23 |
| asac | dunno exactly ... will ask him tomorrow | 09:23 |
| gnomefreak | k | 09:23 |
| hjmf | I'll take a look later to the log to see if you get something clear | 09:23 |
| hjmf | bye | 09:23 |
| asac | at least we need a solution that we can install to retrace | 09:24 |
| asac | if not for all edgy users | 09:24 |
| gnomefreak | im gonna try feistys version | 09:24 |
| gnomefreak | i dont think this is gonna work it cant find the -dbgsym packages :( | 09:39 |
| gnomefreak | i will let you know when its done | 09:39 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #83622 in firefox (main) "Gros plantage firefox avi aprs clic sur enregistrer cible" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83622 | 09:40 |
| gnomefreak | found a big problem with this. alot of people only sent reports for non-up-to-date firefox :( you can only run one per chroot | 09:45 |
| asac | try to set MOZ_NO_REMOTE=1 | 09:45 |
| asac | so it does not contact your main firefox | 09:45 |
| gnomefreak | in the apport command? | 09:46 |
| asac | i think i misunderstood then ... what is your problem? | 09:49 |
| gnomefreak | the user uploaded version 2.0+0 and version ff in edyg is now 2.0.0.1 | 09:50 |
| asac | ah ... what happens if you run apport on the crash? | 09:50 |
| gnomefreak | it complians about the version and alot of depends issues | 09:51 |
| gnomefreak | let me see if i can pipe it to a seperate file and go through it | 09:52 |
| asac | how to add a watch to a bug? | 09:57 |
| asac | bug 82641 should have a watch on bug 54548 | 09:57 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 82641 in firefox "[feisty] firefox full screen" [Undecided,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82641 | 09:57 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 54548 in vlc "90% vlc full screen" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/54548 | 09:57 |
| gnomefreak | what do you mean by watch? | 10:01 |
| gnomefreak | only thing close would be marking it as a dupe | 10:02 |
| gnomefreak | im leaning torward that being a vlc issue more than ff. | 10:04 |
| gnomefreak | i remember that bug | 10:04 |
| gnomefreak | asac: here is what i get when i ran it on different version of ff http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/343204 | 10:07 |
| asac | hmmm takes time to open | 10:10 |
| gnomefreak | that pastebin is slow today | 10:10 |
| gnomefreak | some of those i think im gonna have to install ubuntu-desktop :( | 10:11 |
| gnomefreak | along with java flash and so on | 10:11 |
| asac | does it actually do something on the file? | 10:12 |
| asac | i mean is it modified? | 10:13 |
| asac | or a new one created? | 10:13 |
| asac | there isno error | 10:13 |
| gnomefreak | dont know cant open the file or i will crash | 10:13 |
| asac | you will crash? | 10:13 |
| asac | how that? | 10:13 |
| gnomefreak | yes its too big | 10:13 |
| asac | try less | 10:13 |
| asac | ? | 10:13 |
| asac | that should work | 10:13 |
| gnomefreak | i tried that before and froze up big time | 10:13 |
| gnomefreak | ah | 10:13 |
| asac | hmm less should definitly work | 10:13 |
| gnomefreak | ok ill find out | 10:14 |
| gnomefreak | yes it did :) | 10:15 |
| gnomefreak | i will upload it to bug and put test on it take a look see what else needs to be done | 10:15 |
| asac | please not the full file | 10:16 |
| asac | just the backtrace | 10:16 |
| asac | and the thread traces | 10:16 |
| asac | its too huge | 10:16 |
| gnomefreak | Stacktrace: Using host libthread_db library "/lib/tls/i686/cmov/libthread_db.so. | 10:16 |
| gnomefreak | 1". | 10:16 |
| gnomefreak | you mean those? | 10:16 |
| gnomefreak | StacktraceTop: | 10:16 |
| gnomefreak | ThreadStacktrace: | 10:16 |
| gnomefreak | nothing there :( | 10:16 |
| asac | Backtrace? | 10:16 |
| gnomefreak | nothing says backtrace but looks like most of symbols are there and that is pretty much the full file (it also looks smaller than normal | 10:18 |
| asac | ls -l ? | 10:19 |
| asac | how big? | 10:19 |
| gnomefreak | 36.2kb | 10:19 |
| gnomefreak | see what i mean by seems smaller | 10:20 |
| asac | yeah | 10:22 |
| asac | then upload it to bug | 10:22 |
| gnomefreak | k | 10:22 |
| asac | i will look :) | 10:22 |
| gnomefreak | bug 47564 | 10:23 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 47564 in firefox "closes when scrolling" [Medium,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/47564 | 10:23 |
| gnomefreak | its there | 10:23 |
| gnomefreak | im installing flash and java now | 10:24 |
| gnomefreak | but im thinking since coredump is gone that means its all there | 10:24 |
| asac | hmm | 10:24 |
| asac | not the info i hoped for | 10:25 |
| asac | we need stack traces | 10:25 |
| gnomefreak | i was afraid of that | 10:25 |
| gnomefreak | keescook: you around? | 10:25 |
| keescook | gnomefreak: yup! | 10:25 |
| gnomefreak | have you been following? | 10:26 |
| keescook | I haven't been, no, let me catch up | 10:26 |
| gnomefreak | i got a retrace done it has no stacktrace | 10:26 |
| keescook | hm... that's weird | 10:26 |
| keescook | this is from 47564? | 10:26 |
| gnomefreak | http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/343204 | 10:27 |
| gnomefreak | yes | 10:27 |
| gnomefreak | thats the warnings i got you see anything usful? | 10:27 |
| keescook | which version of apport do you have installed? | 10:27 |
| gnomefreak | after i get all these packages installed i will run it on the same version of ff that i have | 10:27 |
| gnomefreak | feistys | 10:27 |
| gnomefreak | on edgy chroot | 10:28 |
| gnomefreak | thats why the warnings i bet | 10:28 |
| keescook | (that pastebin is still loading.... wild) | 10:28 |
| gnomefreak | its not that big either :( | 10:28 |
| gnomefreak | wasnt. the file i sent output to is empty all of a sudden | 10:28 |
| keescook | can you repaste warnings to pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org? | 10:29 |
| gnomefreak | ill let you know but i would have to rerun it again unless i can get my pastebin to open | 10:30 |
| gnomefreak | doesnt look like it. let me run the other one maybe ill get same warnings | 10:31 |
| gnomefreak | ha found it | 10:34 |
| keescook | ? | 10:34 |
| gnomefreak | the warnings | 10:35 |
| gnomefreak | too many terminals open :) | 10:35 |
| gnomefreak | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4475/ | 10:35 |
| gnomefreak | those are warnings | 10:35 |
| asac | WARNING: version 2:1.firefox2.0.0.1+0dfsg-0ubuntu0.6.10 of dependency package libnspr4 is installed, but version 2:1.firefox2.0+0dfsg-0ubuntu3 is required for retrace. Skipping. | 10:36 |
| gnomefreak | the chroots are gonna have to be full i think | 10:36 |
| asac | i guess that says it | 10:36 |
| asac | exact same version is needed | 10:36 |
| gnomefreak | 2.0+0dfsg-0ubuntu3 is required for retrace. | 10:37 |
| gnomefreak | he needs to update his crash report thats all | 10:37 |
| asac | try | 10:37 |
| asac | still in your cache? | 10:38 |
| === gnomefreak thinks it not feisable to install 4 chroots | ||
| gnomefreak | no | 10:38 |
| asac | hmm is there a thing like archives.debian.net for ubuntu? | 10:38 |
| gnomefreak | 2.0.0.1 is latest installing ff in chroot never grabbed it | 10:38 |
| gnomefreak | packages.ubuntu.com | 10:38 |
| asac | yes but that has no history? | 10:39 |
| gnomefreak | thats the only thing i know fo close | 10:40 |
| gnomefreak | of | 10:40 |
| gnomefreak | i think its pittis edgy repo if you ask me | 10:40 |
| gnomefreak | i dont think he updated it when packages updated | 10:40 |
| asac | hmmm ... maybe the package he initially used is still in the main repository and the new one is in security archive? | 10:44 |
| asac | how many versions do you get with apt-cache show firefox ? | 10:44 |
| gnomefreak | search doesnt give versions | 10:45 |
| gnomefreak | oh show | 10:45 |
| keescook | firefox | 2.0+0dfsg-0ubuntu3 | http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Sources | 10:45 |
| keescook | yeah, you should be able to downgrade it | 10:45 |
| gnomefreak | 2 | 10:46 |
| gnomefreak | hold on i ran one on the version i have | 10:46 |
| gnomefreak | one of the reports on that bug was 2.0.0.1 and other was 2.0+0 | 10:46 |
| gnomefreak | here are the warnings on the one with same version http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4482/ | 10:48 |
| gnomefreak | my tee command isnt working either | 10:48 |
| asac | install with =version :) | 10:48 |
| asac | ok i am off for a while | 10:48 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #83634 in firefox (main) "Crash upon deleting bookmark" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83634 | 10:50 |
| gnomefreak | the one i ran has a stacktrace and a huge coredump still (size of report 36177277) | 10:51 |
| gnomefreak | how do you downgrade with apt? | 10:53 |
| gnomefreak | ok installing the older version of firefox to run the retrace on it | 10:55 |
| gnomefreak | keescook: is this right "command | tee 2>&1 debuginfo" | 11:07 |
| keescook | for saving stderr to the tee too? Nah, gotta move it earlier: command 2>&1 | tee debuginfo | 11:08 |
| gnomefreak | ah ok | 11:08 |
| keescook | all of stderr (2) gets redirected (>&) into stdout (1). everything after the pipe is the next process | 11:08 |
| gnomefreak | ah ok :) im running the first one i ran with correct version of ff lets hope its good | 11:10 |
| gnomefreak | that worked ty :) | 11:10 |
| === gnomefreak is off for now ill leave it running the retrace but i think its stalling out. | ||
| === asac me back ... for a while :) | ||
| gnomefreak | your not gonna like this asac | 12:25 |
| gnomefreak | i recommend any crash report that is not the updated version of ff we need to ask for a new one. ive been running this retrace on the downgraded version and it will not complete. about 1 and half hours it stalled in one place and wont move | 12:26 |
| gnomefreak | i got a great retrace of the up to date one. i have a stacktrace that looks full on the older version but thats about it | 12:27 |
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