[01:02] New bug: #82976 in firefox (main) "Firefox 1.5.09"Manage Bookmarks" does not import Mozilla Bookmarks from floppy" [Undecided,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82976 [03:31] someone want to look at Bug #83483 [03:31] Malone bug 83483 in firefox "[feisty] Unable to install an extension" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83483 === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === armadillo [n=armadill@81-208-31-217.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [10:48] morning [11:02] lads [11:03] asd [11:03] hmm [11:04] my /log does not work in this channel ;) [11:04] ok .. now? test test [11:05] great ... fine [12:04] gnomefreak: i have found the place to fix the rapid progress-meter for unknown downloads ... though I don't know what is best from a UI point-of-view ... if you can test, let me know! [12:36] asac: if you can let me wake up a bit i can test it [12:37] :) [12:37] yeah ... I will have lunch in a about 20 min [12:37] maybe afterwards? [12:37] btw, morning :) [12:38] sure [12:38] moring [12:39] morning [12:40] AlexLatchford: ubuntulog is the log bot for #ubuntu-meeting. they logs are there. we can maybe come up with something to do instead of minutes [12:40] maybe we can attach the logs to the minutes page? as a reference? [12:41] true [12:51] well there is a Bot underway to get this process defined [12:51] I am on the Scribes team who are actively setting up a MeetingBot [12:52] so hopefully by the next meeting it will be sorted so we can use it [12:52] if we need logs ... i did a dump of the irssi window [12:58] k lunch [12:59] so i decline new memebers and ask them to join us in here? === jwendell [n=wendell@ubuntu/member/wendell] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === gnomefreak found out last night what i was doing wrong while building packages :( [01:29] I believe so gnomefreak [01:30] i wrote him email explaining to join us here [01:30] not all new members, just members that appear to have little experience [01:30] (not proven experience) [01:30] he has 0 karma and a member of bugsquad [01:30] then he would be a candidate for the mentoring scheme [01:30] bugsquad is open team [01:31] yes [01:33] couple more coffees and should be ready for patch :) === gnomefreak hates confusing ass guides [01:34] lol [01:34] link? [01:34] the debhelper guide tells you to rename everything -debhelper [01:35] http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/basic-debhelper.html [01:36] that only applies to this package hello because you are grabbing hello-debhelper [01:36] its the only package in repos package-debhelper [01:36] gnomefreak: you have your slow system at hand? [01:36] asac: you changed the settings for speed again? [01:37] i wont have that for a few more hours gf is sleeping [01:37] hehe ... yes a new improvement [01:37] ok [01:37] then I'll wait :) [01:37] k [01:38] i think im gonna try building ff again while i have time :( [01:38] lol fair enough [02:03] AlexLatchford: what processor is in your pc? [02:03] erm I believe an AMD 2800+ [02:03] thats 1.* ghz? [02:03] about 4 years old now [02:04] I believe 2.08 [02:04] crap [02:04] ty === gnomefreak thinking about bringing my 450mhz down here with this one but than gf losses pc :( [02:07] gnomefreak: buy her a new one :) [02:07] :) [02:08] i might have hands on slow laptop soon [02:08] slow == maybe p2 if im lucky [02:09] yeah ... hopefully we won't need slow machines to reproduce in future ... but coincidentially they only pop up on slow maschines [02:09] lucky? you expect a p1 ? [02:09] yeah and im wondering if maybe that is the cause and tell them to get new proc :) [02:09] yes its a 2000 year build of a dell [02:10] i expect it to be slow as crap [02:10] hmmm ... might be PIII then [02:10] pIII works for me :) [02:10] in 2000 ... hasn't there already p4 been shipped (maybe not in laptops) === gnomefreak will give her this pc if i go out and get a new one (i wanted to test vista but ram isnt enough) [02:11] rofl ... a gnomefreak using vista? [02:11] i wanted to test it for my friends they wanted it and i cant get them to use ubuntu, they are scared [02:12] yeah ... i always say to my friends ... if you use windows then you are alone :) [02:12] i won't help you ;) [02:12] good point [02:14] when dh_make asks what type of package always want single binary? unless using cdbs ofcourse? [02:19] you want single package ... unless you prepare a more complex package [02:19] e.g. firefox is not a single package [02:19] as there are various binary packages produced from it [02:19] but if you use dh_make ... you should probably go for single package [02:19] ok cool [02:20] i don't use dh_make :) ... but for getting started its ok [02:20] now that im past the package-debhelper issue i should be better now. you do it manually? [02:20] usually yes. [02:21] if lazy I take another package I find well packaged and use that as a template :) [02:21] :) [02:22] but initial package with dh_make is good way to go. [02:22] seems almost like im doing double the work. without dh_make you change files by hand (for most part) and i still check them after using dh_make [02:25] yeah ... but maybe you won't know which files are needed without dh_make [02:26] rule, changelog, control for the most part === gnomefreak has already tried making those for an unpackaged packagge adn failed badly [02:29] this guide is so wrong [02:30] brb but if anyone can make sense out of this please try: http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/342651 [02:35] gnomefreak: what are you trying to do? [02:35] setup a completely NEW firefox package from scratch? [02:36] it complains that your directoy is just names firefox not firefox-2.0.0.1 [02:37] im not building from scratch [02:37] then you won't need dh_make :) [02:38] dh_make is just used for initial package creation [02:38] ohhhh [02:38] ... or upgrading upstream source [02:38] oh [02:38] but that would fail for a package like firefox :) [02:38] *slaps_self* [02:38] building is pretty simple [02:38] apt-get source firefox [02:38] then switch to firefox dir [02:38] and run [02:38] dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot [02:39] you need fakeroot package as well as build-essential installed to get this going [02:39] i have it [02:39] then the build will complain about any missing build-dependencies [02:39] does pbuilder reun dpkg-buildpackage? [02:39] s/reun/run [02:39] yes ... dpkg-buildpackage is the normal way to do it [02:39] pbuilder invokes that [02:40] + installs your dependencies [02:40] however if you want to develop (e.g. try patches) on your source ... don't do pbuilder [02:40] ok change files that debuild -S -kKEYID than use pbuilder? [02:40] oh [02:40] debuild is more high-level than dpkg-buildpackage [02:40] but should work as well [02:41] ok lets try this :) [02:41] good luck :-P [02:42] ty [02:47] so far so good :) [02:56] should i have removed all *.CVS? [02:56] New bug: #83564 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashes on click to focus" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83564 [02:57] no [02:57] no atm [02:58] :) [02:58] s/no/not/ [02:58] ok got alot of warnings about them [02:58] during generation of diff.gz? [02:58] running debbuild? [02:58] or dpkg-buildpackage? [02:59] debuild -S will run litian for you [02:59] and thats where the errors came from [02:59] actually its bad practice ... but you can ignore the warnings :) [02:59] even errors? [02:59] hehe [02:59] no just warnings sorry [03:00] yeah ... just ignore them ... its been forever that way ... its indeed good, because upstream wants patches to submitted only if generated with cvs diff [03:00] it built the sources fine from what i was able to tell [03:00] ah [03:00] yeah ... you ended up with generated .deb files? [03:00] doing that now [03:00] pbuilder is doing that [03:03] ah ok ... debuild and dpkg-buildpackage should do it too [03:03] debuild builds source and dpkg-buildpackage builds the debs? [03:04] no ... both do everything ... if you don't pass any special options [03:04] for instance [03:04] ah [03:04] dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -kkeyid [03:04] will build and sign with keyid [03:04] cool [03:04] dunno about debuild ... quite a bit since I used it last time [03:05] but afaik just debuild -kkeyid should do the trick [03:05] it does same Now we build the source package using debuild, a wrapper script for dpkg-buildpackage: [03:09] ok ... i talked to pitti ... the idea is that for now we (developers) to run apport-retrace and don't ask the user to do it for us... later this will be automated in launchpad [03:09] ok so only devels have to run it? [03:09] yeah ... our team :) [03:09] as long as it has the full coredump [03:10] are there reports without? [03:10] asac: used to be i think now they should all have them [03:11] ok ... then lets just look ahead :) ... for those that don't have ask the user to reproduce and send new report (with coredump) ... if he cannot reproduce, close. [03:11] after this is built i will try the apport-retrace on a bug see what happens [03:11] great ... let me know if there are any problems ;) [03:11] ok [03:11] should we upload the retrace to bug report? [03:12] sure [03:12] maybe add a tag needs-retrace until this is done [03:12] or need-retrace [03:12] but lets wait till the tag page is set up [03:13] k [03:15] i think a wiki for "us" on how to run retrace might be helpful (for atleast the new members) [03:17] might have one already [03:18] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport?highlight=%28apport%29 [03:18] im looking at it [03:34] this is gonna be hard if we have to have smae version installed with same plugins [03:34] hmm [03:34] no [03:34] :) [03:34] at least for same version [03:34] for same plugins ... lets see how it works out [03:34] is fiestys differnet than edgys in that sense [03:34] you can setup chroot for edgy/feisty/dapper et al [03:35] might have to [03:35] i think edgy + feisty would be enough for now [03:35] k [03:35] i currently have no dapper either ... though if there are lots of reports on dapper I will setup one in future === gnomefreak gonna learn hwo to set up a chroot now :) [03:36] sudo debootstrap edgy /to/some/dir/where/you/want/the/chroot :) [03:37] thats it? [03:42] yes [03:43] after that you can chroot /to/some/dir/where/you/want/the/chroot [03:43] might need to setup /etc/apt/sources.list etc. [03:43] but in general ... yes [03:44] have not yet managed (nor really tried) to start a special gnome session inside a chroot ... but usually one does not need that [03:46] i have http://pastebin.ca/342750 in my /etc/fstab [03:46] in that way I have the same home directory in the chroot [03:46] and proc is always good to have too [03:48] in addition you can put a file called /etc/debian_chroot (within the chroot) and put some name for the chroot in there [03:48] in that way base extends its prompt so you can tell in what chroot you are [03:48] s/base/bash/ [03:49] everything goes into the chroot dir? [03:49] what? [03:49] there will be a complete system installed in it (except kernel) [03:49] the crash report? [03:49] you can do anything you do in your normal system when in a chroot [03:50] so like i would cd /dir/edgy-chroot than run anything at that point? [03:50] no [03:50] you say [03:50] chroot /dir/edgy-chroot [03:50] to switch into it [03:51] then you can run anything you want [03:51] you might need to adduser first [03:51] does that answer your question? [03:51] ah ok [03:52] k ill try it [04:27] ok update: pbuilder is being a b*tch witha few packages so i put that on hold. chroot is installing atm. gf isnt feeling good she came down and asked me to run for cold meds so im gonna do that in a bit but im not gonna beable to get to the p2 for a while :( [04:32] np [04:52] New bug: #83578 in firefox (main) "when X server is configured with 16bit color firefox crashes on some pages" [Undecided,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83578 [04:57] New bug: #83536 in firefox (main) "X.org crashes when scrolling in Firefox" [Undecided,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83536 [05:19] i freaking hate users. [05:20] whats happened this time.. [05:20] hold on, pulling up the bug report. [05:20] Bug #83084 [05:20] Malone bug 83084 in bugzilla "Printing of java applets doesn't work with firefox" [Unknown,Rejected] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83084 [05:21] I don't ever remember being able to print java applets [05:21] well it was rejected upstream, closing it now [05:23] gotta run [05:23] hmm I think we need to change the BugMail settings [05:23] to do what? [05:23] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mozillateam-bugs [05:23] I think David controls that [05:23] change the bugs to be posted onto this list [05:23] so people can choose whether or not to be subscribed to all bugs [05:24] i had seen that list before. I can email david about it [05:24] It doesn't bother me much, but its something that should be changed [05:24] well ill email him about it now [05:25] okay you mail him. I still have to send a follow up [05:25] btw, I hate the way Karma is done on LP now [05:25] yeah [05:26] first they take away 3/4 of my karma, then it went down again, now it hasn't update in several days. [05:27] this is really annoying...well i have to get ready for my day [05:28] hmm, mine updated yesterday I think [05:30] bug 83084 was a duplicate [05:30] Malone bug 83084 in bugzilla "Printing of java applets doesn't work with firefox" [Unknown,Rejected] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83084 [05:32] Admiral_Chicago: better keep bug open and change upstream url to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=178930 ? [05:32] Mozilla bug 178930 in Printing "java applet rendering doesn't show in print preview and doesn't print" [Major,Resolved: worksforme] [05:32] so keep eyes open what malone interprets as REJECTED in upstream :) [05:32] DUPLICATE are obviously not rejected ;) [05:33] asac can you do that, I have to start my school day [05:37] asac: can you take a look at bugs. #70875 #72018 #83564 they all seem to be narrowing down on a single problem [05:37] to my eyes that is [05:38] bug #70875 [05:38] Malone bug 70875 in firefox "crash gtk_style_realize" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70875 [05:38] bug #72018 [05:38] Malone bug 72018 in firefox "crash gtk_style_realize Segfault when clicking back after failing to watch a video" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72018 [05:38] bug #83564 [05:38] Malone bug 83564 in firefox "Firefox crashes on click to focus" [Undecided,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83564 [05:39] Admiral_Chicago: actually me is blind ... it is worksforme. sorry for the noise ;) [05:42] AlexLatchford: ... looking [05:45] AlexLatchford: hmmm .... wasn't there a report somewhere that rm ~/.gtkrc-2.0 (what is the exact filename?) helps for some? ... or did I dream that ;) [05:45] not sure [05:45] haven't seen it anywhere [05:47] so what distribution is reporter of bug 83564 running? edgy? [05:47] Malone bug 83564 in firefox "Firefox crashes on click to focus" [Undecided,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83564 [05:48] Yes in the Report is said Edgy [05:52] think they might be linked? [05:54] the first two yes [05:54] the last cant tell without symbols [05:55] Ok, well I have made the request for information, I will watch those reports and ping you when I get the information required === Admiral_Chicago [n=Freddy@st074039212101.monm.edu] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [06:18] where are we on the tag wiki? (if started) [06:18] not seen anything :) [06:19] maybe I will start to set some content up tomorrow on general bug things - as a proposal [06:19] maybe I come around to tags then too :) === gnomefreak still working as off on getting chroot up and running [06:21] s/as/ass [06:21] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot?highlight=%28chroot%29 [06:21] as a starter [06:26] asac: can i change echo mychroot > etc/debian_chroot to use edgy_chroot instead of debian_chroot? [06:27] what? [06:27] try what happens [06:28] you should then see (mychroot) in front of the prompt [06:28] by default I see nothing [06:28] its not letting me in the chroot now [06:28] what you doing? [06:29] sudo chroot /var/chroot but its yelling at me saying wrong password [06:30] tells me this guide is screwed since i have followed it word for word [06:35] ok fixed sort of [06:35] now to redo it [06:39] sudo [06:39] you need your own password for that [06:41] i did the dchroot (non-root) config [06:52] pbuilder hates me something awful. it doesnt want to grab any of the libavahi packages it needs === Admiral_Chicago [n=Freddy@st074039212101.monm.edu] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [07:05] in chroot? [07:06] no [07:11] AlexLatchford: and Admiral_Chicago if you guys want to join ubuntu-qa team join #ubuntu bugs and speak up [07:11] hes taking applications for it now [07:12] goes for anyone else working on bugs for a while [07:24] who is he? [07:24] sfllaw is the QA Admin [07:24] is he online? [07:24] simon law [07:24] yeah [07:24] asac: yes in #ubuntu-bugs [07:24] aha [07:25] asac: you already have qa access :) [07:25] ok ... just wondered because he is not on any other channel i am in [07:25] he should be in -devel also [07:25] unfortunately my account will be added to core-dev on Feb 12 ;) [07:25] next technical board meeting [07:27] till then I have to creep around a bit :) ... anyway, almost anything I want to edit atm I can do :) [07:27] if not ... I just ask you :) [07:28] :) [07:28] ok ... I now started to go through thunderbird bugs :) [07:28] what a mess ;) [07:28] should i just install firefox or all of ubuntu-desktop? [07:28] but its pretty ok ... for those I know there is an upstream bug I added a remote bug without url [07:28] for chroot [07:29] ah [07:29] install firefox and thunderbird :) [07:29] k [07:29] btw i had idea [07:29] if you want to test the complete desktop feeliung you might need to install ubuntu-desktop [07:29] later [07:29] and use vncserver or something instead of X-server in chroot [07:29] depending on how many people are gonna be doing retraces i think most should use a 32bit and one or 2 have 64bit chroot [07:30] ah ... ok [07:30] yes :) [07:30] i have 64 bit chroots by definition :) [07:30] i dont [07:30] have not yet even set up 32bit [07:31] maybe then I can take over retracing 64bit reports for now ... while all that have i386 try to do so for 32bit reports? [07:31] i have ffeling we are gonna see alot more 32 bit than 64 bit crashes [07:31] I will setup 32bit chrrots too at some point [07:31] i will once i get done with it [07:32] so far me and you are only 2 i know of wokring on bugs with a chroot [07:34] gnomefreak: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mozilla-thunderbird/+bug/46760 [07:34] Malone bug 46760 in mozilla-thunderbird "no icon for mozilla-thunderbird in KDE Panel" [Medium,Confirmed] [07:34] nevermind [07:34] :) [07:35] gnomefreak: .... actually we should add content on wiki that its good to have chroot for testing bugs [07:37] agreed but i dont know enough yet to make it :( [07:38] from chroot will i have accesss to my $HOME dir? [07:40] AlexLatchford: you have 64 bit edgy installed by chance? [07:42] shot i forgot nano :( [07:42] its in the introduction on how to make home accessible [07:42] -> fstab [07:42] lol strangely no [07:43] k im just thinking about staying away from the whole root part of guide [07:43] AlexLatchford: edgy at all? [07:43] yep [07:45] goodie :) [07:45] thats not gonna go over well at all [07:46] AlexLatchford: if you run retraces please make a seperate dir. to keep it neat :) [07:49] i need to friggin sleep [07:49] these people are gonna work on my nerves today === gnomefreak might leave it to asac to screw with it [08:00] that didnt go as planed at all [08:10] how do i run firefox from chroot (making sure it uses edgys) [08:15] fixed it :) [08:16] sounds like a good time [08:20] New bug: #83607 in firefox (main) "firefox won't attach/send jpg's" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83607 [08:23] not as much as a good time as it sounds :) [08:24] asac: got a sec [08:25] to change to chroot i will need sudo chroot /var/chroot still by the looks of it. is that ok for doing the retrace in $HOME === gnomefreak thinks mkdir ~/retrace# and wget the crashreport than retrace it in same place is that ok as root? [08:28] ah nevermind as long as i dchroot -d will give me my promtp as $ [08:30] New bug: #83612 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashes about one minute after closing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83612 [08:35] ok adding comments to bugs stating im retracing the crash reports and will upload than see what we can do. (until tags get ready) [08:35] or should i assign it to myself until report is uploaded? === hjmf [n=hjmf@87.Red-83-40-226.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [08:37] AlexLatchford: are you busy? [08:38] i'm not if you need something [08:38] i would likesome to go over what we do help him out. jhnjwng applied and i sent him email to join us here to learn and work at it before i can accept his app for membership [08:39] s/likesome/like someone [08:39] oh i see [08:39] if you hav etime for a little bit to get him started (if questions i can answer most of them [08:40] im working on getting a retrace done atm [08:40] give me a second to finish this work up. [08:41] thats fine. im not in a hurry but i forgot to bring it up this morning (i have a sick gf here ive been running up to take care of [08:41] gnomefreak: is your question void? [08:41] he may not even be around [08:42] about assigning it to me while running retrace? [08:42] that way i have easy way to pull it up while im working on it [08:42] actually, I have to run right now, I didn't realize how close it was to my class right now [08:43] once uploaded reassign to noone than maybe ping someone to decode the cryptic ass errors :) [08:44] gnomefreak: so you want to assign bugs to yourself to indicate that you work on them? [08:44] one at a time ofcours [08:44] e [08:45] sounds reasonable ... you could even vade through and grab multiple ones in that way. [08:45] i am currently working on wiki info ... will try to include that [08:45] ok and than reassign to noone :) [08:45] ok [08:45] actually you reassign back to mozilla team [08:45] yeah [08:45] either with a new bug state ... or with a new tag added [08:45] sorry [08:46] not sure what to use as tag at that point. tag == needs reading lol [08:46] so other see what has to be done. before this can migrate from unconfirmed->needs info or any other transition [08:46] hehe [08:47]