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naliothyipe:  +z only works when the channel is +m12:28
Tm_TMorning Hobbsee12:28
yipeoh... then.... why bother with it at all?12:28
Hobbseenalioth: there was a flood12:28
Hobbseenalioth: no one who was there had ops12:29
Hobbseein #ubuntu-bugs12:29
Hobbseenalioth: yeah,  we got sorted when the guy stopped flooding.12:29
Hobbseeyipe: so we dont have ot set it when we set +m12:29
naliothHobbsee: flop it on to the meetin agenda12:29
nalioth"add more ops"12:29
Hobbseenalioth: i bugged Seveas last nigth - dont know if he did anything about it12:30
naliothHobbsee: "add to agenda"12:30
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Hobbseehey thoreauputic!12:33
thoreauputicHi :)12:33
thoreauputicI'm an infrequent visitor these days :)12:34
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nalioththoreauputic: hi and welcome to #ubuntu-ops.  Izzer somthin we can help you with?12:35
thoreauputicnalioth: hah - no i fear I'm betond help ;)12:36
LjLeffie_jayx: need an exempt?12:36
thoreauputicumm... *beyond12:36
thoreauputicQED12:36
Mez^lart 40 Hobbsee12:37
Mez@lart 40 Hobbsee12:37
Mez@lart 37 Hobbsee12:37
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Hobbseeheh!12:37
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naliothwho added that one? we ARE getting cruel12:37
Hobbsee@lart 28 Mez12:37
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Meznalioth, they're channel specific12:37
Mez@lart remove 3712:39
Mez@lart 37 Hobbsee12:39
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Mez-Ubugtu- Error: You don't have the #,op capabilit12:39
Mez.I can add but not remove12:39
effie_jayxLjL no thanks I'0m not on ubuntu... :D12:39
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AmaranthMez: they have random real names and such, no?01:02
MezAmaranth, probably, but they may not reset them straight away01:03
naliothMez: disregard PM. content covered.01:03
Meznalioth, lol01:03
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LjLjeez, this time i should not have unset +R so soon01:05
LjLeverytime i set it there's some random apo*ryphos yelling at me about it :P01:05
Mez?01:06
LjLj/k... i just did /mode -R way too early01:06
LjL[01:07:15]  *** BetaCookies is now known as [] [] [Clint] [] [] .01:08
LjL[] [] [Clint] [] []  is n=Clint@69.216.109.178 (Clint)01:08
LjLi know this one, do i not?01:08
thoreauputicwatch that one - he is changing nick too often for my taste...01:10
Mez<tez> sorry LjL i'm evading bans XD01:10
LjLi just gave him !nickspam01:11
LjLyeah, that's what he replied01:11
LjLnow i asked whether it was on #ubuntu01:11
LjLbut i guess my +o will give me away ;)01:11
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LjL!debian is <sed> /$/ - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!/01:26
ubotuYou are editing an alias. Please repeat the edit command within the next 10 seconds to confirm01:26
LjL!debian is <sed> /$/ - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!/01:26
ubotuFactoid 'relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!' does not exist01:26
LjLfunny01:26
LjL!relationship is <sed> /$/ - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!/01:27
ubotuI'll remember that LjL01:27
LjLSeveas: do you call that thing above a bug?01:28
thoreauputicLjL: interesting definition of "relationship" ;-)01:30
Mez!debian01:30
ubotuUbuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!01:30
Mez!-debian01:31
ubotudebian is <alias> relationship - added by apokryphos on 2006-06-18 00:14:5501:31
LjLthoreauputic: heh :P well honestly i really didn't quite know where to put that reminder01:33
LjLbut it should be somewhere... to many system broken by people who don't think and add a ton of debian repos to sources.list, and end up with libc6 version 192.301:33
thoreauputicLjL: agreed :)01:37
maxamillionPriceChild: ping01:53
PriceChildpong maxamillion01:54
somerville32nalioth, ping01:56
naliothsomerville32: pong01:56
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PriceChildFelt left out? :)01:57
LjLyeah :P01:57
somerville32nalioth: Would it be possible for me to get the 20 channel limit removed? I asked Phil but he never got back to me.01:57
naliotho01:57
naliothi'll get back with you as i need to run atm01:57
naliothbbl01:58
somerville32Ok01:58
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Mezsomerville32, ask SportChick01:59
somerville32SportChick, :)02:00
Mezwhy is it half the freenode staff always seem to be in here02:00
Mezor jenda02:00
somerville32Because we're cool? :)02:00
SportChick?02:00
Mezbut SportChick is "on duty"02:01
MezSportChick, somerville32 wants a +e02:01
somerville32Please :)02:01
HobbseeMez: because they like us02:01
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SportChickI think you mean +u02:01
MezSportChick, maybe02:01
SportChicksomerville32: why do you need it?02:01
HobbseeSportChick: he's joining too many channels again02:02
MezHobbsee, i dont know ... why would they. . but we have hald the staff ;)02:02
somerville32hehe02:02
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MezHobbsee, no, it's so he can annoy debian ;)02:02
HobbseeMez: heh02:02
pleia2Mez: aren't the official debian channels on oftc?02:03
Mezpleia2, yes :P but there are channels here too02:03
somerville32SportChick: I'm involved with numerous open source projects (including Ubuntu) and I can't join all the channels I'd like to.02:04
somerville32The correlation between my involvement in different open source projects and the inability to join the channel I'd like to is that most of them a channel (or channels) here on FreeNode :)02:05
SportChicksomerville32: if you think you have a legitimate reason, then send an email to staff@freenode.net with your request & rationale02:05
somerville32SportChick, Ok02:06
Mezlmao ... see with me - I ddidnt even request it ;) I just got given mine ;)02:07
somerville32: (02:08
MezI think it was cause at the time I was chatting about how I was having to prioritse which channels I went in so that I knew which ones to part when I had to join another02:08
Mezand that I was using 2 clients ;)02:08
Mezbut meh02:09
MezI'm off to bed02:09
Meznight all02:09
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LjLyikes i know that joining -es would mean i'd start giving support there too. and it's hard when you don't know the language at all... :P02:18
LjLs/know/knew/02:18
somerville32Woots :)02:27
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ubotuIn #ubuntu, kitche said: !feisty|neighborlee_ #ubuntu+1 is for feisty03:54
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kitcheyeah just ignore the edit request for some reason ubotu thought it was an edit request03:55
PriceChildkitche, because of the ! before it :)03:55
kitchenevermind found out hwta I did now lol03:58
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nixternalwhat is up with Freenode tonight?04:04
nixternalI keep lagging up to 60s every 5 or so minutes04:05
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imac_dudehi04:10
imac_dudei think someone is sending out spam and getting nicknames from #ubuntu04:10
imac_dude* [derrivative]  (n=capitale@pc-77-132-120-200.cm.vtr.net)04:11
imac_dudesent out something about paypal debit accounts and making $40 a day04:11
Hobbseethat probably wont help, but it might stop him getting to the user list04:13
HobbseeSportChick: ping?04:13
imac_dudeeither #ubuntu, #ubuntu-offtopic or #xubuntu04:14
imac_dudecoz those were the channels i was on04:14
SportChickHobbsee: pong but it'll be a min, i'm tied up04:14
Hobbseesomeone else mentioend it in #ubuntu04:15
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imac_dudeoops04:15
SportChickHobbsee: the paypal guy was klined..is he back?04:15
imac_dudeanyway, i should probably leave now ;) i'll be in -offtopic04:15
HobbseeSportChick: derrivative04:15
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Hobbsee[14:15]  [Whois]  derrivative is n=capitale@pc-77-132-120-200.cm.vtr.net (-)04:15
somerville32paypal guy? tsmithe?04:22
Hobbseesomerville32: no04:22
SportChickHobbsee: sorry for the delay - i think he's gone now?04:30
HobbseeSportChick: seems so04:32
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linux_kidcon-man in #ubuntu04:45
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tonyyarussolonely night eh?08:33
maxamillionjust a tad08:34
maxamillioni'm studying for an exam in my compiler theory class08:34
maxamillionwell ... about to start studying, the exam isn't until friday but i need to get my grades in order so i can make it into a good graduate school08:35
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maxamillionmneptok: i know that dance all too well08:49
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mneptokelkbuntu: got 5?10:54
elkbuntuit is possible10:55
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tonyyarussoMez: that was the most confusing change e-mail ever...11:48
Meztonyyarusso, LMAO11:50
elkbuntui dont get it..11:51
tonyyarussoelkbuntu: There were like six different things that had to be tweaked on a bug report, so the e-mail LP sent me was very messy and odd-looking.11:53
elkbuntuheh11:53
Mezelkbuntu, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-backports/2007-February/003660.html11:58
mneptok!stfu12:09
ubotuWords like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.12:09
mneptokbite me, you pompous, pernicious pile of Python.12:10
elkbunturofl12:10
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tonyyarussoDoes Canonical have a listing of staff/department contacts somewhere public?12:21
mneptoktonyyarusso: what do you need?12:22
tonyyarussomneptok: Wondering who would be a sensible contact to ask my education/background/employment opportunities/life direction questions of.  So far I know how to reach you, sfflaw, MagicFab, Mark, and Jono.12:22
tonyyarussoI think I might ask Jono some stuff, b/c his job sounds cool, but I don't know if he'll have the time to respond (these people are all so busy!)12:23
mneptoktonyyarusso: yeah, everyone works 12+ hour days.12:23
mneptoktonyyarusso: there are probably 7534896215983421689 people on the planet that want to ask Mark "what do i have to do to work for you?"12:24
mneptokanswering such questions is an inevitable tar pit and time suck12:24
tonyyarussomneptok: hehe, yeah.  Although, he _did_ personally respond to an e-mail once before, and has to a number of things on MLs I follow - I'm impressed.12:25
elkbuntumneptok, no, i believe it is 753489621598342169012:25
mneptokdo what you love. the rest will follow.12:25
tonyyarussomneptok: That's why I'm wondering who the more appropriate contact would be.12:25
mneptoktonyyarusso: yeah, *****************everyone****************** works 12+ hour days.12:25
mneptok;)12:25
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mneptoksomeone might be able to make time for you, but that's what they would be doing. taking time from something else.12:26
tonyyarussowell, maybe I'll just try what I know and cross my fingers then, or hope they forward it to someone who would be good12:26
tonyyarussoI know12:26
mneptokdo what you love. the rest will follow. ;)12:26
tonyyarussoI'm not really expecting a reply, just hoping someone _might_ find a moment12:26
mneptoki have a Bachelor's in Mediaeval Studies.12:27
elkbuntutonyyarusso, why not ask sounder as you contemplated earlier?12:27
tonyyarussolol12:27
tonyyarussoMedieval Studies?12:27
mneptokMediaeval Studies.12:27
elkbuntuthat sounds cool, tbh. useless, but cool12:27
Jucatowow.. medieval studies...12:27
tonyyarussoelkbuntu: I think I will.  I'm trying to think of the widest base I can ask, and if I do manage to get a reply from anyone at Canonical, it will be more intelligent than sounder can be at times.  Sounder might work, but might not, if you know what I mean.12:28
Kamping_Kaisertonyyarusso, wouldnt asking #u-education be a proper place for asking about education?12:28
tonyyarussoKamping_Kaiser: That exists?12:28
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mneptokKamping_Kaiser: he wants to know about his education, not Edubuntu12:28
Kamping_Kaiser#ubuntu-education, yes12:28
tonyyarussocool12:28
elkbuntumneptok, i half-finished two courses in environmental science and environmental management in that order12:28
Kamping_Kaisermneptok, yes, i saw. hence the sugestion over #edubuntu12:28
tonyyarussoKamping_Kaiser: Not tonight, but thanks for the tip.  Maybe I'll try to hit it when it's, you know, day.12:29
mneptoktonyyarusso: IMO, it's a *really* bad idea to make decisions about education based on some job you think you want.12:29
tonyyarussomneptok: It's not really about a job - it's about a class of job / industry.12:29
mneptoktonyyarusso: study what interests you.12:29
tonyyarussoI don't really know what interests me is the thing, or at least how to study it.12:30
mneptokthen don't waste money on college12:30
mneptokseriously.12:30
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mneptokif you don't have some real interest pulling you, don't waste the cash.12:30
tonyyarussoWell, not having any degree at all sounds to me like not being able to buy groceries later.12:30
Kamping_Kaiserhi Hobbsee12:31
mneptoktonyyarusso: there was a 10 year gap between high school and Uni for me12:31
elkbuntutonyyarusso, or, do general 'bonus points' courses... ie, counselling, business management, OH&S etc12:31
mneptoktonyyarusso: waiting or delaying != cancelling ;)12:31
mneptoktonyyarusso: and at 30, college is *so fscking easy*12:32
tonyyarussoelkbuntu: OH&S?12:32
Hobbseehey Kamping_Kaiser12:32
Kamping_Kaiser:)12:32
tonyyarussomneptok: I suppose.12:32
elkbuntutonyyarusso, Occupational Health & Safety12:32
mneptoktonyyarusso: i can tell you what worked for me some time12:32
tonyyarussoelkbuntu: ah12:32
tonyyarussomneptok: sure.  here or e-mail anytime12:32
elkbuntutonyyarusso, how old are you? im sure you've said at some point, but i've forgotten12:33
mneptoki really enjoyed college, it cost me almost nothing, and i graduated cum laude. all because i waited.12:33
tonyyarussoelkbuntu: 20.12:33
tonyyarussoelkbuntu: In second year of uni atm12:33
Kamping_Kaiserelkbuntu, hes yonger then me :(12:34
elkbuntutonyyarusso, studying what? BA?12:34
tonyyarussoelkbuntu: Currently in a dual-university/dual-degree program for a B.Sc. in Physics and a B.Ed. (secondary)12:34
mneptokelkbuntu: Gynecology. but it's outside of his curricular work.12:34
tonyyarussoeww12:34
Kamping_Kaiser>.<12:35
elkbuntumneptok, rofl12:35
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elkbuntutonyyarusso, he's suggesting you get laid...12:35
tonyyarussoelkbuntu: Yeah, no thanks.12:35
tonyyarussoNot for a while yet.12:35
mneptokwhat idiot woman would sit still as that doctor approached?12:35
elkbuntumneptok, am i allowed to mention your girlfriend here?12:36
mneptokelkbuntu: if you weren't, it's too late now .... ;)12:36
elkbuntumneptok, my ribs and jaw now hurt.. sorry :12:36
tonyyarussoI know her nick, but she never talks12:36
mneptok(and no, i don't give a rat's ass) :)12:36
mneptoktonyyarusso: she's more active on GIMPnet12:37
tonyyarussomneptok: ah12:37
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elkbuntufor good reason12:38
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mneptoknow called Kstick12:38
HobbseeKDoomStick, thanksverymuch!12:39
elkbuntumneptok, correction, kLong kPointy kSticK12:39
tonyyarussolol12:39
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elkbunturofl12:39
tonyyarussomneptok: what did you do between hs and uni?12:40
mneptoktonyyarusso: blew guys at a bus station for cigarettes and bourbon.12:41
mneptokwait. was that out loud?12:41
mneptok*facepalm*12:41
elkbunturofl12:41
tonyyarussowe'll pretend it wasn't12:41
elkbuntumneptok, and Pie Floaters12:42
Kamping_Kaiserahahahah12:42
Hobbseetwo words:  "oh dear."12:42
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elkbuntumneptok, im not sure either Kamping_Kaiser or Hobbsee have heard the story yet12:42
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Kamping_Kaisermneptok, + story = scarring?12:43
elkbuntuKamping_Kaiser, this one is sane, dont worry12:43
Hobbseelikely12:43
elkbuntucan we pweeeeeeeeeeze have a bedtime story uncle mneptok?12:46
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tonyyarussolol12:49
tonyyarussomneptok: I actually described you just the other day to someone as like the weird uncle of Ubuntu IRC.12:50
mneptoklol12:51
elkbuntuhe's not responding ...12:51
elkbuntuhere he is.. story time story time story time12:51
mneptoksorry, just let fabbione into the office and was visiting12:51
mneptoktonyyarusso: http://64.26.155.12/static/resume/12:52
mneptok(name services appear borked ATM)12:52
tonyyarussomneptok: thanks12:52
mneptoklemme find that quote of mine from the private Canonical channel ....12:52
mneptokWRT Mark's posting inviting SuSE devs to hop the fence:12:54
mneptok<mneptok> that's why Canonical should have me make such announcements. if the reaction is bad, everyone always act like i'm the crazy uncle that shows up in the front yard without pants, cursing at invisible Luftwaffe fighters. "Sorry he got out again. We'll put him back, and let us know about any damages."12:54
Hobbseehaha12:54
tonyyarussosounds about right12:54
elkbunturofl12:54
elkbuntunow, the pie floater story!12:54
mneptokso ....12:55
mneptokone night at UDS we were forced to share a lounge area with some drunk sales types that were annoying *before* the liquor hit.12:55
mneptoknow, the best way to fight a forest fire is with controlled burns. fire with fire.12:56
mneptokthey're being annoying? cue mneptok ....12:56
mneptoki proceeded to be as annoying as i could, without being so much so that the tactic was obvious. and the strategy was, "convince tho Aussie guys that a pie floater exists, even though they have not heard of it."12:57
elkbuntuthey were melbournians, right?12:58
mneptokelkbuntu and i spent 10 minutes discussing pie floaters with the drunks, at which point they cut their losses and went to bed.12:58
mneptokelkbuntu: Sydney, IIRC12:58
elkbuntumneptok, ah. either way, i lied and said i was from Adelaide12:59
mneptokbut not Q-land.12:59
elkbuntubut it was funny... we annoyed them until they left :D01:00
mneptokelkbuntu: i remember creating a mental horse race to see which guy would stop looking at your boobs first.01:00
elkbunturofl01:00
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mneptok"there can be no winner in a race like this."01:00
elkbuntumneptok, lol01:00
Hobbseehaha01:00
Hobbseemneptok: did any of htem?01:00
elkbuntuHobbsee, when they left the room01:00
Hobbseeelkbuntu: good point.01:01
mneptokand only then because homo sapiens sapiens do not have eye stalks01:01
elkbuntumneptok, hehe yeah01:01
mneptokbut if they had had a *leetle* snail DNA ....01:01
elkbuntuthey were a bit slimy, for sure01:02
mneptokIMO that's being kind01:02
tonyyarussowas it b/c they were that drunk and stupid, or is elkbuntu surprisingly good-looking, or both?  :P01:02
elkbuntutonyyarusso, im not small in that region, and the clothes sort of accentuated01:03
mneptoktonyyarusso: is there a way to answer that question that allows me to keep both testicles?01:03
Hobbseehah01:03
tonyyarussoelkbuntu: That sounds like a bad wardrobe choice for a conference01:03
tonyyarussomneptok: not likely01:03
elkbuntutonyyarusso, it was after hours01:03
tonyyarussoThat's why she answered01:04
tonyyarussoelkbuntu: right01:04
tonyyarussoWell, as long as you had mneptok along to creep them out, you're safe01:04
jendatrademark violation! http://www.su.cvut.cz/01:04
mneptoki mean, i either say, "they were drunk" and elkbuntu gets offended and hits me. or i say, "she's totally hot!" and force her to move 6 times in 6 months with no forwarding adidress.01:04
elkbuntutonyyarusso, it *was* a geek conference01:04
Hobbseetonyyarusso: fact of the matter is, it seems that any vaguely tight female clothing gets women into trouble.01:04
elkbunturpf;01:04
elkbunturofl*01:04
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tonyyarussoHobbsee: "work shirt" == something you wear to work, workout shirt, other?01:05
MezHobbsee, got pics ?:P01:05
mneptok(BTW, elkbuntu is totally hot, and when i convince the Aussie authorities that my convictions for stalking are all a big misunderstanding .... )01:06
Hobbseetonyyarusso: the first01:06
elkbunturofl01:06
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HobbseeMez: actually, there are pictures from me meeting with elkbuntu and Kamping_Kaiser01:06
MezHobbsee, work in hooters ? :P01:06
tonyyarussoHobbsee: gotcha01:06
MezHobbsee, in the work shirt ?01:06
tonyyarussogaaaaah01:06
tonyyarussoI'm getting kernel spam all over the place01:06
mneptokHobbsee: is this "work shirt" from your other job as a pole dancer?01:07
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tonyyarussoand forget the command to supress it01:07
Hobbseemneptok: no.01:07
mneptok:(01:07
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mneptokHobbsee: the day is young01:07
tonyyarussowait - I wrote it down in a bug report once!  /me hits LP01:07
jendaWhat supermarket is this that they have pole dancers?01:07
Mezjenda: I dont know - but I wanna go to them01:07
MezHobbsee, you should take up pole dancing, it's great exercise01:08
Hobbseejenda: clearly one that you want to go to01:08
Hobbseehttp://wedontsleep.org/~sarah/pics/01:09
Hobbseefor all you crazy people01:09
tonyyarussoThat sounds like it should be my URL01:09
Hobbseeheh01:10
tonyyarussowhich one's who?01:10
mneptokjebus. the first pic i select has the Sydney harbor bridge.01:10
mneptokit's like a fscking .au cmmercial :)01:11
elkbuntulol01:11
Mezmneptok, was that "bridge.jpg" ?01:11
apokryphosI want a linux t-shirt, argh01:11
apokryphosand a kde one 8)01:11
Mezapokryphos, coming to LRL ?01:11
tonyyarussowait, I can figure it out from the others01:11
Hobbseemneptok: well, we were in circ quay...01:11
apokryphosMez: what's that?01:12
Mezhttp://www.lugradio.org/live/2007/01:12
apokryphosnever listen to lugradio01:12
apokryphosare you taking part in it?01:13
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apokryphosnice; throwing katapults out? ;-)01:14
tonyyarussoHi Seveas01:14
Mezapokryphos, I'll be pimping it as usual, yes01:14
elkbuntuwhy the hell does the UK have to be so far from .au :(01:14
HobbseeMez: yay :)01:14
tonyyarussoSeveas: btw, you have a 403 forbidden on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/Lart.flat.db and and internal server error on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:14
Hobbseeelkbuntu: because we need to move countries01:14
apokryphosEurope's the place to be.01:15
elkbuntuHobbsee, i know01:15
apokryphosit's fun, it's hip, it's cool01:15
elkbuntuit doesnt have john howard01:15
Hobbseesomeone offer me a job there then :P01:15
elkbuntuditto01:15
Hobbseeyeah, true that.  damned work choices01:15
apokryphosand FOSDEM :D01:15
apokryphosthis year they've got http://fosdem.org/2007/schedule/speakers/mark+reinhold speaking :O01:15
tonyyarussoI'd love to got to Sweden and/or Finland some day01:15
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tonyyarussobleh.  I put a CD in my laptop and now it won't play it nor give it back.01:16
apokryphossomeone managing something as crazy large as JDK will be interesting to see01:16
Seveastonyyarusso, both known01:16
tonyyarussoSeveas: 'k.  :)01:16
Seveastonyyarusso, I'm hacking on factoids.cgi and whacking supybot to not reset the permissions on the lart db EVERY FUCKING TIME I EDIT A LART01:17
elkbuntu!ohmy | Seveas01:17
ubotuSeveas: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.01:17
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jenda!language01:17
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Mez"go to hell"01:18
Seveasyes01:18
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Seveas:)01:18
Seveas@lart elkbuntu01:18
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elkbunturofl01:18
Seveas@lart elkbuntu again01:18
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tonyyarussoSeveas: Ohp.  Happy to wait :)  Having a working bot is more important than being able to get the Lart db - consider it a "priority - low" wishlist :)01:18
Seveas@lart elkbuntu once more01:18
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elkbuntuwhy didnt jenda go to hell as well?01:18
jendashh!01:18
elkbuntui love you too, Seveas :)01:18
Hobbsee@lart Seveas01:18
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Seveaselkbuntu, he lives in .cz - close to hell01:18
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mneptokSeveas: .cz is nowhere near my pants01:19
jenda@lart Dennis01:19
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Seveasmneptok, your pant's aren't hell - they're merely beelzebubs weekend hangout01:19
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Seveasyeah, that was fun :)01:19
apokryphoshaha01:19
apokryphoschanserv.py's one weakness ;-)01:20
Seveasapokryphos, I'm already fixing it01:20
Hobbseehaha01:20
jendaI'll be going close to hell soon too - it's called India.01:21
apokryphosmust discover new things in LEVEL then 8)01:21
tonyyarussoSeveas: Say, I've been wondering about some educational issues, and I know you're doing the Ubuntu cert stuff - would you be able to tell me anything about what edu background is necessary for that?  I prefer using software than writing it (ie, not coding much, so most comp sci programs don't look appealing, wondering what else there is)01:21
jendaI'll be giving the mosquitos a month to eat me.01:21
Seveastonyyarusso, it's sysadmin, not compsci01:22
apokryphoswhat sysadmin degrees are there, though?01:22
SeveasLPI mostly01:22
apokryphosin the UK guys get thrown into comp sci first01:23
Seveasubuntu certification is LPI level 1 (so exams 101 and 102) and an Ubuntu exam (exam 199)01:23
tonyyarussoSeveas: Are there university degrees that are similar to LPI stuff?01:23
tonyyarussoOr do you do something else, then the LPI course?01:23
SeveasLPI course is included with the ubuntu course01:23
tonyyarussoright01:24
tonyyarussobut is there anything formal schooling wise along those lines?  Trying to figure out what you could do prior to those courses, if anything would be relevant.01:24
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Seveasjust do some sysadminning with ubuntu for at least 6 months01:25
tonyyarussohmm, okay01:25
tonyyarussoI do a bit of that anyway, just by using it myself.  Not very in-depth, but hey.01:25
Seveasreal sysadmin stuff, not just maintaining a local machine01:25
tonyyarussoSuch as?  Don't have access to a lot to work with.  Two machines here - one laptop and one desktop that's being used as a LAMP/ftp server.01:26
apokryphoshow are you going to get to do sysadmin stuff exactly without anything, though?01:26
apokryphossurely people are only going to really take you on if you have experience in the field01:26
Seveasthe target for this course is basically someone with some sysadmin experience on other operating systems01:27
Seveastarget audience i should say01:27
Seveasthe list of LPI and Ubuntu objectives for the course can be found online01:27
apokryphosare there people there who haven't done comp sci?01:28
Seveasyeah01:28
apokryphoshow did they get their sysadmin experience?01:28
Seveaseveryone but me hasn't done CS01:28
popeyhttp://www.ubuntu.com/partners/certification/pro01:28
apokryphoswow01:28
Seveasand I'm not target audience, but way above :)01:29
elkbuntuaka the nitpicker01:29
Seveasyes, very much01:29
Seveasjenda, poke01:29
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jenda*poked*01:31
Seveasunpoke01:31
Seveasjust solved :)01:31
jendadamn you!01:31
jenda01:31
elkbuntuSeveas, so would someone as n00b as me be capable of LPI?01:32
Seveasyou'd need some course material (there are half-decent LPI books at oreilly)01:32
Seveasthe course we're doing now will be too expensive for most of us01:32
popeyI wouldn't say you're noob elkbuntu01:32
mneptokapokryphos: speuaking from experience, i would *always* hire a sysadmin with experience rather than education.01:33
Seveasmneptok, ++01:33
elkbuntupopey, i would :01:33
apokryphosmneptok: where do they get their experience?01:33
elkbuntubut thanks for the compliment :)01:33
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Seveasapokryphos, fiddling with their own servers01:33
Seveas(in my case that is)01:33
elkbuntuapokryphos, volunteer sysadminning01:33
Seveasmneptok is a lousy sysadmin though01:33
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Seveasso I wouldn't hire him anyway01:33
elkbuntulol01:34
mneptokapokryphos: do you know how to breathe? ever take a Uni course on breathing? ;)01:34
Seveasjenda, poke again :)01:34
apokryphosI thought it was mentioned that local machine testing didn't really cut it01:34
Seveasapokryphos, I said servers, not local machine01:34
mneptokSeveas: dude. i'm an awesome sysadmin. i can even use regedit!01:34
mneptokMCSE01:34
Seveasmneptok, but do you know ldapvi?01:35
apokryphosSeveas: my local machine is a server 8)01:35
mneptokMust Consult Sameone Experienced.01:35
mneptok*Someone01:35
Seveasmneptok, LOL01:35
mneptok;)01:35
jenda*poked*01:35
Seveasjenda, PM01:36
apokryphosI'd like to do sysadmin stuff for the sole purpose of getting people onto Linux. Now, once I combine that with Philosophy, profit++01:36
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tonyyarussoWhat's the offtopic policy for the ubuntu-irc ML?  You guys are a really awesome group for some of the questions I have, but it wouldn't really be within its purpose.01:37
Seveastonyyarusso, zero-tolerance if I'm in charge :)01:37
tonyyarussoSeveas: Dang.  All right.  :P01:37
tonyyarussowas worth a shot01:38
tonyyarussobrb - making breakfast01:38
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popey:)01:39
Hobbseejenda: heh01:40
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Mezthen he realised he was wearing sunglasses01:40
apokryphoseyes weren't open?01:40
Seveaslol!01:40
apokryphosah, that one01:40
popeyheh01:41
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MezIt's cause their transition lenses01:41
Mezso they're normally clear01:41
jenda:)01:41
Mezbut because i went ti the shops and it's the first sunny day in about 8 months01:41
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Mezit surprised me01:41
HobbseeMez: ahhh, i like them.  clipons are better thouhg.01:41
Hobbseefor the precise reason you mention01:41
MezHobbsee, lol - but- meh i need them01:42
Mezlight sensitive migraines01:42
Hobbseeooh, ouch.01:42
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Hobbseethey wouldnt help you as you just go outside though...01:42
MezHobbsee, *shrugs*01:44
Mezbetter than nothing01:44
Hobbseetrue that01:44
MezHobbsee, plus they block cxertain types of light out anyways01:47
Mezwhich is why you're not allowed to wear them while driving (oir at least they reccomend you dont)01:48
HobbseeMez: oh really?  interesting.01:49
Mezindeed] tis why the opticians ask if you dirve when you go to them01:51
elkbuntuwhelp... im off to bed01:57
tonyyarussoelkbuntu: what tz are you btw?  I can never quite tell.01:57
elkbuntutonyyarusso, .au01:57
elkbuntusydney time01:57
tonyyarussoelkbuntu: That's UTC+what though?01:58
Kamping_Kaiser+10.30 atm (?)01:58
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elkbuntutonyyarusso, +10 for sydney01:58
tonyyarussoah01:58
elkbuntutonyyarusso, gworldclock is useful ;)01:58
tonyyarusso:)01:58
Kamping_Kaiserhm. i must only be +9.30 atm then01:58
elkbuntumeanwhile, work for the dole sucks.. dont know how they expect people to have time to find work while doing it when they dont give time exemptions for attending networking things like conferences :(01:58
Mez/ctcp elkbuntu time02:00
Kamping_Kaiserelkbuntu, gnight then :(02:00
Kamping_Kaiserand yeh, wftd sucks02:00
tonyyarussowork for the dole?02:01
Kamping_Kaiserelkbuntu, er, just a mo.02:01
tonyyarussoI'm assuming not the political campaign of the '90s?02:01
elkbuntuhmm?02:01
Kamping_Kaiserelkbuntu, yes, your signing worked ;)02:02
Kamping_Kaiser* :)02:02
elkbuntuyay!02:02
Kamping_Kaisertonyyarusso, its aka is 'mutual obligation', but basicly means 'teh govt fks you hard'02:03
Kamping_Kaiserelkbuntu, :)02:03
elkbuntutonyyarusso, it's where you do a prescribed amount of volunteer work while actively seeking work while on welfare02:03
elkbuntubut i took a week off for UDS and a week off for LCA, and the agency mismanaged and i lost a couple of weeks elsewhere02:03
Kamping_Kaiserits hardly volunteer02:04
tonyyarussoelkbuntu: ah02:04
Kamping_Kaiserseeing the amount of breeching that goes on02:04
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scribzhi there, i tried to join ubuntu, but apparently i'm banned. as far as i know i've not been in there before so how come i'm banned ?02:07
Mezscribz, your hostmask is banned02:08
Mezlemme just find logs02:08
tonyyarussothe ban is a month and a half old, by my calculation02:09
tonyyarusso(ubugtu's, actually)02:09
Mezindeed02:09
MezI'll remove it now02:09
scribzthanks Mez02:10
Mezdone02:10
Mezchanserv.py is useful, you dont have t work out which mask fits which person02:11
Mezjust /cs unban scribz02:11
Mez;)02:11
tonyyarussoI've been meaning to attempt to port that function to perl for irssi02:11
Kamping_KaiserMez, does it set an exeption, or remove the ban?02:12
tonyyarussomy current script is great for setting bans, but doesn't remove them02:12
MezKamping_Kaiser, remove the ban02:12
Kamping_Kaiserok02:12
Meztonyyarusso, /msg chanserv unban nick02:12
tonyyarussoMez: just needs an /au then or something02:13
tonyyarussoI have the chanserv.py source - just need to look at it when I have time02:14
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Mezlmfao02:31
Mezhttp://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=41602:31
LjLpeople are complaining by mail that apt.byethost14.com doesn't work... i didn't think people were actually *using* that. stupid free providers :\02:32
Kamping_Kaiser:/02:32
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jenda?03:17
tonyyarussooh dear03:18
jendait can mean, confused, or it can mean "sniffin'"03:18
effie_jayxjenda: ???03:18
LjL:-?03:18
effie_jayxyou called?=03:18
LjLthat's what i use...03:18
effie_jayxgeee...03:19
jendaeffie_jayx: you mentioned my name in -es a while back.03:19
tonyyarusso*v*03:19
jenda_03:19
effie_jayxjenda: I was reminding them of your proposal03:19
jendaok :)03:19
effie_jayxthey are discussin the ubuntu-es issue03:19
effie_jayxthey are still stuck on the fact that es is all spanish speakers... :S03:20
LjLdistinguish channels from teams... please...03:20
effie_jayxLjL: #ubuntu-es03:20
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LjLeffie_jayx: i know - i'm saying channel names shouldn't necessarily be the same as team names03:21
LjLthey're different issues03:21
LjLchannels are mainly to give ubuntu users *support*03:21
effie_jayxthey claim they have been there long before the current LoCo structure was stablished...03:21
LjLand they should not care about the internal politics03:21
effie_jayxLjL: true... but the issue does not lie on the name...03:22
effie_jayxLjL: it got diverted to that03:22
LjLyes - and wrongly so03:22
LjLhence my plead to keep issues separate03:22
effie_jayxwell ... jono wants the channel to go to the spanish team...03:23
effie_jayxand jenda suggested that teh spanish team decides...03:24
effie_jayxLjL: jono just wanted to organize the things a bit...  the LoCo structure is not really well understood in latin america03:28
apokryphosI'm wondering if yipe shouldn't be +b in -offtopic and not +q03:31
apokryphosbit sad to let someone watch a channel when they can't post to it, unless they're just cooling off03:32
Hobbseeapokryphos: he's not in ther eanyway, is he?03:32
apokryphoshe is03:32
Hobbseeoh, so he is03:33
naliothif he starts join/part shenanigans or something . . .  otw, i say leave things as they are03:33
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ubotuIn #ubuntu, Quintin said: !dpi is http://scanline.ca/dpi/05:49
LjLuhm, bah, that page is interesting, but it is more a statement of opinion (which i don't even quite agree with) than instructions for users05:58
LjLbesides, i dislike quintin :P05:58
effie_jayxLjL,  you speak spanish?06:11
LjLeffie_jayx: not really, but i guess it somewhat ;)06:11
LjLhelped two or three people in -es yesterday... though i had a hard time finding the words sometimes06:11
effie_jayxLjL,  :D06:12
effie_jayxLjL,  nalioth kicks ass in spanish too... :D06:12
effie_jayxliterally06:13
LjLmy spanish really just comes from the knowledge of a limited couple of words, and using italian grammar on top of that06:13
LjLand guessing the rest06:13
effie_jayx:D06:14
effie_jayxyou try.. :D ...06:14
LjLeffie_jayx: i'd give you a little show but nobody in -es is asking anything that i can answer ;P06:18
effie_jayxlol @ LjL's Spanish show...06:19
effie_jayxyou should see elkbuntu  going at it :D06:19
effie_jayxshe's a celebrity in #ubuntu-ve :D06:19
tonyyarussoI'm amused by the thought of a "celebrity" on IRC06:20
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effie_jayxtonyyarusso, well ... she's a local hero then...06:23
tonyyarussoeffie_jayx: 'k :)06:23
ubotuIn ubotu, cybermatt said: where is ircd.conf when it is installed via apt-get06:40
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yipewhy don't I get the message "Cannot send to chan" or whatever when I try to talk in -offtopic? Do you have some sort of.... I don't know... different kind of mute going on in there?07:50
PriceChildBecause afaik yipe your message is sent to the channel ops... but don't quote me on that :)07:54
yipereally?07:54
yipeweird07:55
jendayipe: you are muted in the channel.07:57
jendaI don't think the channel ops get your messages, either.07:57
yipeoh I'm well aware that I'm muted, I'm just wondering why I don't get the normal error message when I try to talk07:58
PriceChildjenda, well none of them are opp'd so they wouldn't be... :)07:58
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jendayipe: cannot send to channel should be the normal error message.07:59
yipeyeah, it doesn't say that07:59
yipeit doesn't give me any message at all07:59
gnomefreakyipe: look on server window07:59
gnomefreakif its not giving you a error than you are not muted07:59
gnomefreakmre than likely07:59
gnomefreakmore07:59
yipeyeah, it's not saying anything there either08:00
gnomefreakwho muted you?08:00
yipeSeveas,08:00
gnomefreakif it is not showing you than i dont knwo but why would you need it to show you more than once?08:01
yipebecause that's how I test to see if he's removed the mute yet or not :P08:01
jendahehe08:03
jendayou can also have a look at the banlist it's there.08:04
apokryphoswell now you will get that message08:04
apokryphosthough in your case I'm not sure it's worth having a mute instead of a ban, really08:05
yipethere it goes :D08:05
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yipeapokryphos, what do you mean? and really, what's the difference?08:05
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apokryphosyipe: /msg ubotu umode tells you the difference08:06
yipeI meant what's the practical difference between being banned and muted?08:07
yipeeither way, I'm not talking, so the result is the same08:07
ompaulbanned means you can't get back in08:07
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yipeI know what it means, apokryphos said I should be banned instead of muted, I'm just wondering what he thinks that will accomplish or change08:08
ompaulyipe, you pushed and pushed and pushed and pushed08:08
ompaulso you get removed, you know this08:08
apokryphosyipe: actually I didn't say that. I was thinking about which would be more appropriate.08:08
yipeompaul, I'm not arguing that08:09
yipealthough to be honest I do think the initial incident was blown way out of proportion, and keeping me muted this long over that is a bit ridiculous08:10
apokryphosnot at all. Your language was appalling and your behaviour inexcusable08:10
ompaulyipe, stop now08:10
ompaulplease08:10
apokryphosI don't think you'll be unmuted any time soon, either.08:10
yipeompaul, I'm not doing anything08:10
apokryphosoh come on08:11
apokryphosyou've just said that a decision made by operators was "ridiculous"08:11
ompaulthat is what we want you to do now08:11
naliothyipe, we've talked about this before.  please don't bring it up in here again.08:12
yipeand wait for Seveas to remove it? You know that'll take forever08:15
ompaulyipe, perhaps you should08:15
apokryphosthere's no ambiguity about that; your ban will not be lifted any time soon08:15
ompaulnow leave the subject alone08:15
ompaulI am now going to eat food08:16
yipeyou do that08:17
apokryphosyipe: stop08:17
yipenow what?08:17
apokryphosyou know exactly what. Please don't give us this extra childish attitude.08:17
yipecalm down apokryphos, I'm not causing any trouble08:21
apokryphosonce again useless to say one thing when you were clearly in fact doing the contrary08:22
apokryphosbut anyhow, is there anything else we can help you with?08:22
naliothyipe: you won't be waiting for seveas to remove it. but you will be waiting if you keep reminding us.08:23
yipenah, I was just curious about the "cannot send to chan" thing08:24
yipethere's a cryptic statement08:25
yipehas anyone seen the movie "the weatherman" with nick cage? my friend recommended it but I'm a little low on cash and I don't want to rent it if it's not gonna be good08:26
naliothyipe the social channels are "that way" >>08:27
yipeI can't talk in them :P08:27
naliothsure you can08:27
yipeactually no, that was just the wrong chan, sorry08:28
yipeanyways, see you guys later08:28
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apokryphosblah08:30
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apokryphosbeen pinging him for a few weeks in -locoteams, then decided to email him, and I get a response in a few minutes ;-)10:05
apokryphosso locobot_2 is now finally out of #xubuntu10:07
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Seveastonyyarusso, ping10:25
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PriceChildLot of people getting dumped into -unregged....11:46
PriceChildMaybe +J needs to be raised slightly?11:47
PriceChildAnyone?11:57
SportChickPriceChild: #ubuntu was briefly changed, I believe because of an impending bot threat11:58
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SportChickPriceChild: did you see what I wrote?11:59
jendaSportChick: you scared his client to death.11:59
SportChickjenda: apparently11:59
PriceChildback sorry11:59
PriceChildnope :P11:59
PriceChildI pressed ctrl+x by acciadent... which is REALLY bugging me11:59
jendait was the 'omg staff' reflex :)11:59
SportChickPriceChild: #ubuntu was briefly changed, I believe because of an impending bot threat11:59
PriceChildhehe :)12:00
SportChickit is temporary12:00
PriceChildjenda, I manage with you :P12:00
PriceChildSportChick, ahhh ok... I remember bearperson mentioning that come to think of it12:00
SportChickPriceChild: yep12:00
jendaPriceChild: well, I'm tame, you know.12:00
SportChickonce we're comfortable the threat is over, #ubuntu will be returned to its normal state12:00
PriceChildjenda, only cuz they haven't let you loose yet :P12:00
jendahehe12:00
PriceChildOk sounds good :)12:00
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