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WallyTExcuse me, I opened the Add/Remove function and attempted to install Rosegarden, but after it downloaded and installed, I searched for Rosegarden but can't find it.  It still has a check-mark by it.  What's wrong?12:35
maxamillionWallyT: do "aptitude search rosegarden" and tell me if there is an 'i' to the left of it (in the terminal)12:36
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WallyTmaxamillion: There are four, the top two have an "i", the bottom two have a "p".12:39
maxamillionWallyT: yeah, then it should be installed12:39
WallyTI did both an appsearch and a file search and can't find it in either.12:40
maxamillionWallyT: do Alt+F2 which should give you a "run" prompt ... enter "rosegarden" in there and hit <enter> ... see if it comes up, it might just not be in the meny12:40
maxamillionmenu*12:40
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WallyTOops.  Habit, I pressed Alt+F412:41
maxamillionWallyT: no worries12:41
WallyTmaxamillion:  It says "System timer resolution too low".12:42
maxamillionWallyT: oh wow ... i have no clue, i've never even heard of the software ...12:46
WallyTAhh, thank you!12:47
maxamillionWallyT: no worries ... sorry i wasn't of more help12:47
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pppoe_dudehi... what is the metapackage to install just the xfce desktop environment?01:04
pppoe_dudewith all the xfce stuff01:05
maxamillionxfce401:05
maxamillion!xfce401:05
ubotuxfce4: meta-package for xfce4 dependencies. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.3.90.2 (edgy), package size 4 kB, installed size 48 kB01:05
maxamillion:)01:05
maxamillionpppoe_dude: you will probably want xfce4-goodies too ... that package seems popular01:05
pppoe_dudei get an error... that it has been replaced with xfce4-panel01:05
pppoe_dudeim on edgy-server01:05
pppoe_dude:(01:06
maxamillionpppoe_dude: uhmmmm... just a moment01:06
pppoe_dudei added the xubuntu CD to the sources coz i already have it01:07
maxamillionah, that's why01:07
pppoe_dudeshould i remove it?01:07
maxamillionremove the cd from the sources and just install from the online repositories01:07
pppoe_dudeok01:07
maxamillionbecause it appears that the xfce4 meta package isn't installed by default so i don't think it would be on the cd01:07
pppoe_dudestill the same problem01:08
maxamillionpppoe_dude: you use aptitude or apt-get?01:09
pppoe_dudeapt-get01:09
maxamilliondid you do "sudo apt-get update" after you removed the cd from sources.list?01:09
pppoe_dudeyes01:09
maxamillion.... and it still gives that error?01:09
maxamillionstrange01:10
pppoe_dudevery strange01:10
pppoe_dudeill install links and try to use source-o-matic01:11
maxamillionok01:12
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FingerPiehello there01:12
maxamillionhello01:12
FingerPieI was considering an ubuntu distro for an old laptop, less than 100 MB ram, what is suggested?01:13
FingerPiethe alternate install of xubuntu?01:14
maxamillionpppoe_dude: can you pastebin the entire output from the attempt to install xfce4?01:14
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maxamillionFingerPie: yes, the alternate install image01:14
pppoe_dudemaxamillion, fairly difficult since im on command-line only01:14
FingerPieis xubunti the smallest of the ubuntus?01:15
pppoe_dudebut i managed to get a new sources.list file from source-o-matic01:15
pppoe_dudeand elinks... so we'll see how that goes01:15
FingerPielightest01:15
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pppoe_dudemaxamillion, ok it worked01:16
maxamillionpppoe_dude: well, you could just do "script apt.log" then "sudo apt-get install xfce4" then Ctrl+D to kill the script log and use links to load the file to pastebin01:16
pppoe_dudemaxamillion, i suspect the source file for the edgy-server is faulty01:16
maxamillionpppoe_dude: oh ... it worked, awesome01:16
somerville32FingerPie, Yup01:16
FingerPiethanks01:17
FingerPieill try the liveCD01:17
somerville32FingerPie, How much ram do you have?01:17
maxamillionFingerPie: well, lightest of the official ubuntus ... you could try out Fluxbuntu (its a community project based on ubuntu)01:17
FingerPiesomerville Mass?01:17
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maxamillionFingerPie: also .... with less than 100mb of ram the livecd will not run01:17
FingerPiethe laptop has 96 MB and a 3 Gig HD01:18
FingerPieoh01:18
FingerPieit is running slackware now01:18
maxamillionslackware live?01:18
FingerPiebut i wanted something a little easier to update01:18
somerville32FingerPie, I would use the alternative CD01:18
spasticteapotFingerPie: You'll want Puppy Linux or something else suitably light.01:18
FingerPieno install01:18
spasticteapotOr just run from the CLI.01:18
maxamillionFingerPie: oh, ok ... yeah xubuntu or fluxbuntu would serve your purpose well and updating is a breeze01:19
FingerPiealli use it for is IRC and the occasional image viewing01:19
FingerPiethanks01:19
maxamillionno problem, anytime01:19
FingerPieto be honest, linux breathed enough life into this antique that i never got around to throwing it out01:20
maxamillionFingerPie: that's good to hear! ... glad to see people are utilizing the power linux has to offer01:22
maxamillionFingerPie: what desktop environment are you running with Slackware?01:22
FingerPienow KDE01:23
maxamillionFingerPie: Xfce is alot faster then KDE, i think you will like Xubuntu01:23
FingerPiethanks01:24
maxamillionno problem01:24
pppoe_dudeok...01:24
maxamillionpppoe_dude: ?01:24
maxamillionpppoe_dude: lemme guess ... X won't start?01:25
pppoe_dudeso, xfce is running... but i only have one little panel on top with a non-functioning icon01:25
maxamillionohhh ok01:25
pppoe_dudei installed xdm01:25
maxamillionwhen you right click the panel, does anything happen?01:25
pppoe_dudei have a one-button mouse01:25
pppoe_dudebut F11 (i think) emulates the right button01:26
pppoe_dudegives me a workspace list if clicked on desktop01:26
pppoe_dudebut nothing otherwise01:26
pppoe_dudeoh wait..01:26
maxamillionpppoe_dude: you on a Mac I assume?01:26
pppoe_dudeF12 gives me "customise/add items etc01:26
pppoe_dudemaxamillion, yes01:26
pppoe_dude:)01:26
pppoe_dudeany quick panel configurations?01:27
maxamillionpppoe_dude: yeah, i ran Xubuntu on my iBookG4 before I had to sell it01:27
pppoe_dudei guess now i can add everything... ok cool :)01:27
maxamillionpppoe_dude: you will want to add a "Xfce Menu" ... :)01:27
pppoe_dudemaxamillion, thanks01:27
maxamillionpppoe_dude: anytime :)01:27
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cyberyakum?01:59
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rootanyone know the command to remove ssh from a server through apt-get?02:03
rootanyone?02:04
somerville32lol02:06
somerville32You want to remove the server or the client?02:06
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cyberyakdrx0drx, did you ever get your partitions taken care of?02:33
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drx0drxcyberyak, no, I tried to umount /dev/sda3 and it said it's not in the fstab (and you are not root)02:47
cyberyakdid you use sudo?02:48
j1mchey, it looks like compiz/beryl/whatever has been deferred from the _ubuntu feisty release.02:52
somerville32j1mc: How do you know?02:52
j1mcthat means that it won't be installed by default in _ubuntu 7.402:52
j1mchttp://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20070205#news02:52
j1mchttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/composite-by-default02:53
j1mcthe launchpad notice says "deferred."02:53
drx0drxcyberyak, that did it, thanks!!!  one last question:  the HowTo I'm using says to create a 1GB boot partition and then a swap and then a system partition... is there great wisdom in having separate boot & system partitions?02:54
j1mcsomerville32, i guess you would know more about it, or you could find out more about it.02:55
j1mcmaybe that is wrong or something.02:55
cyberyaknot really.  There used to be many reasons.  I also used to have a separate partition for /var so that if there were issues with log files, they didn't crash the system.02:55
j1mc. . .  it's just a news story, and no official announcement has been made.02:55
cyberyakdrx0drx, linux will boot from an extended partition.02:56
cyberyakdrx0drx, Windows, however, will not.02:56
drx0drxcyberyak, as I discovered.  so, you don't think it's still smart to place log files for journalled file systems on a separate partition?02:59
cyberyakfor the average machine, no.02:59
drx0drxcyberyak, for a mission critical server?02:59
cyberyakyou shouldn't be dual booting a mission critical server.03:00
drx0drxcyberyak, no choice -- we have to create VM Images on the same hardware and the Linux VM builder freezes so we have to use Windows for that, but once it's up, we won't need it03:01
drx0drxcyberyak, what was in the 1GB boot partition anyway?  and, how did the installer know what to put in /boot versus putting everything in / ?03:01
cyberyakI don't typically create a boot partition that big.03:02
drx0drxcyberyak, so if I create a /boot in the Extended partition, will the installer know what to put there or do I have to manually move things there later?03:02
cyberyakwhy are you making this so difficult?03:03
drx0drxcyberyak, i'm just asking because it was in the FAQ and I have no idea why nor the value.03:04
PuMpErNiCkLeEverything past /boot in the directory structure would be placed in /boot, even if it were a separate partition.03:04
PuMpErNiCkLeThe value is because /boot holds your bootable kernel.  Having it on a separate partition prevents some scenarios which could hose that.03:04
drx0drxPuMpErNiCkLe, would you create a /boot in the extended partition on a mission critical server?03:05
drx0drxPuMpErNiCkLe, if so, do you think 1GB is just right or too large or too small?03:06
PuMpErNiCkLeDepends on what I'm doing with the server; most likely, it's an unnecessary precaution.03:06
drx0drxPuMpErNiCkLe, reliability and recoverability are tantamount over speed & ease of configuration.03:06
PuMpErNiCkLeWay too large... /boot on my system is currently 8.3MB.03:06
drx0drxPuMpErNiCkLe, should I forget about a separate boot or do you think it provides some value?  What are the scenarios it protects against?03:07
j1mcmy /boot partition is around 50mb, but i hear that's a lot . . .03:08
j1mci'm not sure how much of it is taken, but i know i have plenty of space.03:09
cyberyakyeah, we used to say 100 meg when you were placing kernels there.03:09
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PuMpErNiCkLedrx0drx: File system corruption, mostly.  Separating it from other parts makes it easier to recover /boot, even if other sections get ruined.03:09
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PuMpErNiCkLeI suppose you could also mount it read-only, to prevent a careless admin from accidentally messing with it.  I've never looked into that, though.03:11
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FordPrefectNZello ello. anyone here know of a non-GNOME way to change a metacity theme? or anything to do with metacity come to think of it... thankies in advance03:16
somerville32Metacity is apart of Gnome03:17
somerville32So no03:17
FordPrefectNZim sure there was at some stage a seperate little program to control it03:18
FordPrefectNZi know its a part of gnome, but that doesnt stop people from using kwin in odd places.. :P03:18
drx0drxcyberyak, gparted keeps reporting my 40GB ext3 partition as 1GB, reports swap OK?03:19
cyberyakFordPrefectNZ, check out xwinman.org they may have a link to some metacity stuff.03:19
FordPrefectNZi have03:19
cyberyakthat's the only place I'd know to look.03:19
FordPrefectNZbut ah found it... oh yes, of course its something we wouldnt have in the repos lol03:20
drx0drxcyberyak, and of course, it won't install because it says the partition is too small!03:21
cyberyakdrx0drx, do you have windows installed?03:21
FordPrefectNZin which case, ill pose you another question. whats a good window manager besides xfwm4 to use with xfce4? (dont say xfwm4 integrates well so you should use it, it has a few niggly annoyances i cant live with)03:21
drx0drxcyberyak, yes, but only on the first partition (FAT32)03:21
cyberyakand how much free space do you have after that partition?03:22
drx0drxNone, there is a 173.70GB Extended partition, but I'd be happy to blow it away for now.03:23
cyberyakdrx0drx, run fdisk03:23
cyberyakdelete all but that windows partition03:23
drx0drxcyberyak, I did -- that's what you helped me accomplish, happy to do it again?03:24
cyberyakdrx0drx, then, when you have a 173G of free space, do the install.03:25
cyberyakahhh, wait.03:25
drx0drxcyberyak, why is my FAT32 Windows partition have a flag "boot"?03:26
cyberyakbecause that is the bootable partition.03:26
drx0drxcyberyak, I deleted the Extended partition and it still sees the 40GB / partition as 1GB03:26
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cyberyakbecause that is all the MBR knows about at this point.03:27
drx0drxcyberyak, trouble is, it won't let me install, says I need 2GB03:27
cyberyakwhen you install, did you partition like I told you to?03:27
drx0drxI created a swap partition and then a 40GB ext3, both primaries, both right after the FAT3203:29
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cyberyakpartition 2  Primary   50 meg     /boot03:30
cyberyakpartition 3     Primary    40 G     /     ext303:30
drx0drxcyberyak, and the swap?03:31
cyberyakpartition 4      Primary     (how much mem you have to 2x mem)   /swap03:31
drx0drxcyberyak, I need e03:31
drx0drxcyberyak, extended partition, need > 403:32
cyberyakwhy?03:32
cyberyakwhy?03:32
drx0drxcyberyak, for VMs03:32
drx0drxcyberyak, for data03:32
cyberyakok03:32
cyberyakpart 1 windows03:32
drx0drxcyberyak, would rather give up /boot03:32
cyberyakI would if it were me.03:33
drx0drxcyberyak, yeah, no one explained anything that was compelling for this situation03:33
Mlittlehi, is m4a support program specific, or can anyone here help me?03:35
Mlittlei'm trying to play m4a files in Banshee03:35
drx0drxcyberyak, this time it went lol03:35
cyberyakdrx0drx, part 1 primary windows NTFS (or Fat32)03:36
cyberyakk03:36
cyberyakmsttcorefonts has been depricated?   what has taken its place?03:37
drx0drxcyberyak, now it said "failed to create a file system"03:37
cyberyakthat's never good.03:38
drx0drxcyberyak, about 1/2 way through the install03:38
cyberyakI'd say, boot to the live cd, drop out to command prompt, run fdisk and set up the partitions.03:40
drx0drxcyberyak, now it says "Installer crashed"03:41
cyberyakthat can't be good.03:41
drx0drxcyberyak, the key part of the message seems to be "OS Error: [Errno 30]  Read-only file system: '/target/bin'03:42
drx0drxcyberyak, I installed SLES 10 no problem, should I go back to SLES or use Fedora 6?03:42
cyberyaksince I honestly don't know what you are ultimately trying to do, I can't suggest anything.03:43
drx0drxjust trying to install ubuntu03:43
cyberyakwhat kind of hardware are you installing this onto?03:44
drx0drxcyberyak, IBM xServer 3500 (Xeon 64 Dual Core, Adaptec SAS/SATA RAID on-board)03:45
cyberyakdrx0drx, which cd are you installing from?03:48
j1mcwhenever i try to install feisty (xubuntu), it sees my IDE drives as SCSI drives.03:49
j1mcso i don't attempt the install . . .03:50
cyberyakif they are sata, that wouldn't surpise me.03:50
PuMpErNiCkLej1mc: It's a feature, actually.03:51
PuMpErNiCkLeThey're using sd* as the naming convention now.03:51
j1mcreally?03:51
drx0drxcyberyak, 6.06 LTs03:51
Mlittleanyone here know how to get m4a's to work?03:51
j1mcPuMpErNiCkLe, where can i find out more about this feature?03:52
cyberyakdrx0drx, why not use edgy? 6.10?03:52
drx0drxdon't have the CD and I haven't found it has helped fix any of the "fesitiness" in 6.0603:52
PuMpErNiCkLej1mc: I'm looking for a link.03:53
j1mcthx.03:53
cyberyakdrx0drx, are you using the 64 bit alternate cd?03:53
drx0drxcyberyak, No03:53
cyberyakdrx0drx, which one are you using?03:54
drx0drxcyberyak, 6.06 LTS (I think it's 32-bit, it's the one they ship out)03:55
cyberyakIf it were me, and I were running a 64 bit processor, I would use the most recent stable version and the 64 bit CD.03:57
cyberyakI would suggest downloading the edgy eft 64 bit desktop or alternate cd.03:58
PuMpErNiCkLej1mc: It's a kernel change that occurred in 2.6.19.  http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_1904:01
drx0drxcyberyak, I may try Debian or Fedora 6, I've heard positive things about the latter with Xen.04:02
cyberyakk, good luck.04:03
drx0drxcyberyak, thanks for all the help!04:04
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cellofellowI upgraded to Java 6 and now firefox isn't working with Java. Any pointers?06:26
cyrosupgrade firefox ?06:26
cellofellowIt's Swiftfox 2.0.0.106:27
cellofellowCan't upgrade that any more06:27
cellofellowI think I have firefox's config wrong.06:27
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matt4magicHi! Is there a xUbuntu-net-install image?11:05
matt4magicA small footprint that is...11:05
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kalikianamatt4magic, look for the server install cd :)11:53
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Dh3Y0i m trying to install libsndfile-1.0.17 but at the end this shows up "Compiling some other packages against libsndfile may require the addition of "/usr/local/lib/pkgconfig" to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable." how do i complete the installation12:02
kalikianaDh3Y0, so does it actuall output an error message apart from that?12:07
Dh3Y0kalikiana; i dont understand what u mean?12:08
Dh3Y0kalikiana; ?, it says configuration complete but i still cant install hydrogen it says the libsndfile is stil missing12:11
kalikianaDh3Y0, so you did ./configure && sudo make install?12:13
kalikianawere there spcific errors? did you install it to the right path?12:14
Dh3Y0i just went to the directory and typed ./configure12:14
Dh3Y0i m still new12:14
kalikianaah, ok. it just wasn't clear to me what you did.12:15
kalikianaso configure gave you no errors?12:16
Dh3Y0no just the above12:16
kalikianaok, so type "sudo make install".12:16
kalikianathis will install it to /usr/local/bin i assume.12:17
Dh3Y0yay its working12:17
Dh3Y0so y did that come up btw12:17
kalikianacall it a notice, not an error. in some cases the program requiring libsndfile might not find it on its own, so you can specify the path manually.12:18
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Dh3Y0back again12:45
Dh3Y0i just installed Flac but wen i start with configuring hyrdrogen this comes up "configure: error: "FLAC++ library not found. FLAC website: http://flac.sourceforge.net"12:46
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Dh3Y0kalikiana; u there man12:52
Grey_LokiDh3Y0, how did you install Flac?12:54
Dh3Y0apt-get12:55
Dh3Y0Grey_Loki; with the apt-get command12:56
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Grey_LokiI guessed12:56
Grey_LokiI'm just googlin'12:56
Grey_LokiJust to be sure, you ran 'sudo apt-get install flac', right?12:56
Dh3Y0Grey_Loki; yeah it installed allright i think, i mean no errors came up12:57
Grey_LokiHmm. Do you still have a log of it you can pastebin?12:57
Grey_LokiDid it also install liboggflac3?12:57
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Grey_Loki!packages12:57
ubotuYou can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!12:57
Dh3Y0Grey_Loki; no i closed it :(12:58
Grey_LokiAh, no problem12:58
Grey_LokiYou're usind Edgy?12:58
Dh3Y0no dapper12:58
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Dh3Y0Grey_Loki; dapper01:02
Grey_LokiDh3Y0, just scratching, but I can run FLAC files, and I have libflac++5c2 installed as well01:06
Grey_LokiI suggest you get that, and if it doesn't work, remove it01:06
Grey_LokiOther than that, i'm afraid I can't offer any advice01:06
Dh3Y0Grey_Loki; thanks01:07
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hyper_chhiho, what's the name of that other virtualization software (not vmware)?01:20
Grey_LokiBochs?01:20
Grey_LokiWine?01:20
Grey_LokiCedega?01:20
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hyper_chGrey_Loki: nope, it's like vmware... you run a virtual windows in your linux box... but there's another one yet that has become opensourced not too long ago...01:21
Grey_LokiAha#01:21
Grey_LokiNo idea, sorry01:21
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grazie!qemu | hyper_ch02:00
ubotuhyper_ch: qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo02:00
hyper_chgrazie: thx... so far I used vmware but I heard virtualbox is better02:00
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geo-hello02:01
graziehyper_ch: never even heard of virtualbox myself. vmware is great, qemu is opensource though02:02
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hyper_chgrazie: vmware sometimes has tons of problems switching between host and virtual system02:04
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Se1hello02:07
Se1who can help me to find an "qt library"02:08
Se1with sudo aptitude install02:08
hyper_chSe1: apt-cache search qt02:10
hyper_chand then look at the output which package you need02:10
graziehyper_ch: Oh OK, I never had any problem, but don't use it much.  However, I am trying to find (without success) ppc emulation sw02:14
hyper_chppc emulation?02:15
gordonjcpgrazie: what kind of ppc platform?02:15
hyper_chgrazie: well, I use still windows for a few things... I just love UltraEdit... and I watch TV through Zattoo and there's a few other things02:15
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graziegordonjcp: What ppc platform I am try to use? A g4 mac02:30
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BrendanMWhere can you suggest software to add to Xubuntu Feisty?02:31
gordonjcpgrazie: so what are you trying to emulate?02:31
graziegordonjcp: ppc linux02:32
gordonjcpyou've got a ppc processor, you don't need to emulate it ;-)02:32
graziegordonjcp: yes I do ;)02:32
grazieBrendanM: don't understand?02:34
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hyper_ch!uuid02:43
ubotuTo see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)02:43
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matt4magicA default installation of xUbuntu in qemu just had some problems with a screen saver called rot... something02:48
matt4magicIs this a known error or should I make notes about it?02:49
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BrendanMGrazie, I'd like to make a couple requests/suggestions for Xubuntu Feisty. I was wondering if there was a forum or a wiki or something somewhere to do that?02:52
geo-hey guys I have xubuntu on my laptop and when I close the lid I have to log bag in when I open it, anyone know how I turn that off?02:52
BrendanMYou could try unchecking the "lock after ..." in the screensaver settings02:59
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BrendanMI'm not sure if that would do it, but I think the lock after hibernate is part of the screensaver02:59
alnoktaTheSheep, are you there?02:59
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TheSheepalnokta: yes?03:03
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geo-lol where would I find said screen saver settings?03:03
alnoktaI uninstalled xfce beta using apt-get03:03
grazieBrendanM: The forums I guess, although what's going in to Feisty will be pretty much frozen now03:04
alnoktaand i'm using gnome right now until i install xfce 4.403:04
alnoktai am downloading this file http://www.de.xfce.org/archive/xfce-4.4.0/installers/xfce4-4.4.0-installer.run03:04
alnoktais that okay?03:04
alnoktaor do i need to download the rest from here too? http://www.de.xfce.org/archive/xfce-4.4.0/installers/03:05
geo-anyone know how to edit the screen saver?03:05
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graziegeo-: Not on xubuntu right now,  but something like Applications > Settings > ScreenSaver03:07
geo-it's not on settings or system03:08
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grazieBrendanM: if you want to get packages into the feisty repos that's a different matter03:09
geo-hmm I found it03:11
TheSheepalnokta: I think it will download everything it needs automagically03:11
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alnoktaTheSheep, okay03:14
WallyTExcuse me, I just made an application launcher for the top panel, but I don't know how to find the icon I want.  I want the Epiphany Web Browser icon, where would that be stored?03:14
BrendanMit might be in /usr/share/pixmaps03:15
BrendanMbut I'm not sure03:16
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TheSheepWallyT: /usr/share/icons/GNOME/scalable/applications/03:16
WallyTThank you, but it's not there.03:18
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WallyTIt's not even in /usr/share/epiphany-browser/art, that seems strange to me.03:24
WallyTI found a substitute, it's the same picture, just a little darker.  Language-selector.png03:26
WallyTThanks for the help!03:26
matt4magicIs there a known issue with the screensavers in the default installation? Should I make a bug report on it?03:33
matt4magicGreat - thanks. This is the peak of the Ubuntu-team-spirit.03:38
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alnoktai get compilation error, the installer cannot compile the gui03:46
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alnoktahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4414/03:47
alnoktaanyone knows what might cause that?03:48
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TheSheepalnokta: too old cairo library maybe?04:00
PuMpErNiCkLealnokta: It's missing a library.  Probably libcairo2-dev.04:00
PuMpErNiCkLeTheSheep++04:00
TheSheepPuMpErNiCkLe: if it was missing, woudn't the error be different?04:00
alnoktalibcairo2-dev is already the newest version.04:01
TheSheepalnokta: gdk?04:01
PuMpErNiCkLeTheSheep: No, not really.  It's an undefined reference - it can't find what's it's supposed to be referencing.04:01
TheSheepalnokta: what version of xubuntu is that?04:02
PuMpErNiCkLeIdeally, you'd get an error during the initial configuration.04:02
TheSheepPuMpErNiCkLe: but woudn't it complain about a missing file if the whole library was missing?04:02
alnoktathe one after dapper04:02
alnoktaedgy04:02
TheSheepPuMpErNiCkLe: this looks like the library is there, but it is missing some symbols04:03
TheSheepPuMpErNiCkLe: as if they weren't in that version yet04:03
TheSheepPuMpErNiCkLe: or there is a missing -l04:04
alnoktawhat is the name of 'gdk' package?04:04
PuMpErNiCkLeIt's the same error for both cases.04:04
alnoktagdk-imlib1 - compatibility package for gdk-imlib11 ?04:04
PuMpErNiCkLeIt looks like those are defined in cairo-xlib.h, which is provided by libcairo2-dev.04:08
alnoktais it fixable?04:08
TheSheepalnokta: have you tried asking at #xfce?04:09
TheSheepalnokta: they might know it better04:09
PuMpErNiCkLecairo-xlib.h gets installed to /usr/include/cairo, but your build is searching for it in /usr/local/include/cairo, so unless it's providing the library itself, it would fail like this.04:09
alnoktaTheSheep, they directed me at first to here :) , then i asked that question, one said :04:09
alnokta<Eulex> alnokta, it appears that your gdk or cairo is broken.04:10
TheSheep:)04:11
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TheSheepPuMpErNiCkLe: that's just a .h file, the symbols are in the .so files04:12
TheSheepbesides, this function name is weird: c68568456_activated04:12
alnoktaPuMpErNiCkLe, how do i know that?04:15
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Cimihi xubuntu dev04:23
Cimii'm Cimi, murrine dev04:23
Cimii've heard of the intention to use my engine inside your distro, and then of the "main" requirement04:24
Cimicould someone speaks me about this?04:24
PuMpErNiCkLeTheSheep: Which it looks like it's failing to build.04:25
TheSheepCimi: I'm afraid the devs are rarely available on the channels04:25
CimiTheSheep, so where i can contact them?04:25
TheSheepCimi: xubuntu-dev mailing list seems to be the best bet, the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu might be a good way too04:26
CimiTheSheep, no time04:26
Cimii hope someone will write them for me04:27
Cimii have then intention to release 0.50 version on friday or saturday04:27
TheSheeplooking at the schedule, there is upstream versions freeze at 2007-02-15, so the new version will made it :)04:29
TheSheepah, sorry, it's 8th04:29
TheSheepin two days04:29
TheSheep:/04:29
TheSheepFriday and Saturday are 9th and 10th04:30
hyper_chTheSheep: do you have virtualbox running?04:30
TheSheephyper_ch: no04:30
hyper_chTheSheep: I just wonder whether it would run in feisty04:30
TheSheepCimi: I will pass a word from you if I see any dev04:30
TheSheepCimi: thanks for the care04:30
Cimiok04:31
Cimibye04:31
hyper_chCimi: what engine?04:31
TheSheephyper_ch: Murrine04:31
TheSheephyper_ch: the best I eever tried :)04:32
TheSheephyper_ch: using it at the moment04:32
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ottodCould someone help me with an automount issue regarding usb flash drives?04:33
hyper_chTheSheep: yes, looking at the webpage right now04:33
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SSmithHi, I am trying to install themes, but they don't seem to be updating in the User Interface Settings area, am I doing something wrong?04:38
SSmithI am simply extracting them into ~/.themes04:38
TheSheepSSmith: are they gtk2 themes or xfce4 themes?04:39
hyper_chTheSheep: I just downloaded and installed the .deb file... is it now accessible through the applications menu?04:39
SSmithgtk204:39
TheSheephyper_ch: no, that's just a theme engine. Now you need a theme that makes use of it. See the http://gnome-look.org for some nice murrine themes04:40
TheSheepSSmith: is there the gtkrc file?04:40
Commander-Crowehow do I use sha1sum?04:40
SSmithTheSheep: yes04:40
TheSheepSSmith: in what directory?04:40
TheSheepCommander-Crowe: man sha1sum04:41
SSmithits a few directories down in .themes04:41
SSmithshould I move everything up to the top directory?04:41
TheSheepSSmith: no, it should be in ~/.themes/ThemeName/gtk-2.0/gtkrc04:41
SSmithyeah, thats where it is04:42
TheSheepshould work :/04:42
SSmithone sec, I just messed some stuff up.04:42
SSmithheh.04:42
SSmithsorry, I was wrong, it was in the themename/subname/gtk-2.004:43
TheSheepSSmith: move it one level up04:43
TheSheepto ~/.themes/sybname/gtk-2.0/04:43
SSmithwill do, as soon as xarchiver decides to co-operate.04:44
SSmithI think i'm going to replace this program, it never works like I want it to.04:44
TheSheepSSmith: check out sqeeze04:44
Commander-CroweI did sha1sum -c file.iso04:44
Commander-Croweand i got an error "failed to open or read04:44
Commander-Croweos04:44
Commander-Croweno04:44
SSmithone sec, brb04:45
Commander-CroweI got this one04:45
Commander-Crowesha1sum: WARNING: 1 of 1 listed file could not be read04:45
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ottodusb flash drive does not appear anymore on xubuntu desktop. it did work before, it does not now. it shows and works ok on thunar. How can I reenable show on desktop?04:45
TheSheepottod: do any other icons show on your desktop?04:46
ottodyes, the files i have in there04:47
TheSheepCommander-Crowe: check file name and file permissions04:47
TheSheepottod: do you have file ~/.config/xfce4/desktop/desktoprc  ?04:48
TheSheepsorry, it's xfdesktoprc04:48
ottodTheSheep: no, in that dir there is only icons.screen0.rc04:49
TheSheepottod: ok, do you have /etc/xdg/xfce4/desktop/xfdesktoprc  ?04:49
ottodTheSheep: no, in that other dir there are many files but none called xfdesktoprc04:50
TheSheep:/04:50
TheSheepottod: what version of xubuntu do you use?04:50
ottodTheSheep: 6.1004:50
TheSheephmm... when did the icon stop working?04:51
ottodTheSheep: it did last night, it does not work right now. I installed some stuff with automatix04:51
Commander-Crowedang it04:52
Commander-CroweI think it failed04:52
Commander-Croweit took 20 hours to download :(04:52
TheSheep!automatix04:52
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe04:52
TheSheep:(((04:52
ottodTheSheep: ok, thank you, is there any doc I could read about automounting on xfce? what were you trying to tell me when looking at the missing xfdesktoprc?04:54
SSmithnice, it works now TheSheep, thanks.04:54
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WallyTExcuse me, how do I find the firewall in Xubuntu?04:55
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TheSheep!udev04:56
ubotuudev: rule-based device node and kernel event manager. In component main, is important. Version 093-0ubuntu18.0edgy2 (edgy), package size 224 kB, installed size 768 kB04:56
TheSheepottod: try looking for something about udev rules and/or HAL04:56
ottodTheSheep: ok, and what if I delete .config and .cache? I do this all the time on Zaurus. It just magically recreates everything. I will try it!04:58
TheSheepottod: I'm afraid it might have changed something outside of your home directory04:59
ottodTheSheep: so long and thanks for all the fish. bye.04:59
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Commander-Croweno05:03
Commander-Crowedon't use automatix05:03
TheSheepis the thunar device manager going to be in feisty?05:04
TheSheepif the freeze is in two days and it's still not in there...05:05
hyper_chwhat other options would be there?05:05
TheSheephyper_ch: what do you mean?05:06
hyper_chwhat other device manager would be an option?05:06
TheSheephyper_ch: the gnome one (rather unliekely, with all the dependencies) or none, as it was so far05:07
hyper_chI see05:07
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TheSheepthere was some silly thing about missing a licence file in the package, so it wasn't included with the rest of xfce 4.4, and I still don't see it in the repos...05:08
hyper_ch:(05:08
TheSheepcould it be the missing licence file was not a mistake?05:08
hyper_chI don't know05:09
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Commander-Crowegoogle source-o-matic05:12
Commander-Croweupdate your sources.list there05:12
Commander-Croweand then you can download anything05:12
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Pekkewhat is the best wlan application to get mys wpa-psk (tkip) connection to work? i have rt2500 wlan card...?05:14
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Pekkekwlan supports wpa, but it says that it can't get the ip address dynamically. might it help if i set an static ip?05:17
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ottodTheSheep: this is ottod again, the one with the missing xfdesktoprc of some minutes ago. I fixed the problem by booting a xubuntu livecd and copying the xfdesktoprc from there to my hd (to both locations /etc/... and ~/.config/...). It works now, thank you05:23
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leaphistohey how do i set aliases in bash?05:29
leaphistoalias blaa="dir -l" ?05:30
leaphistookay.05:31
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fxrhi all... i have compiled a couple of things from source with ./configure && make & make install..  i wanna remove them completely from my system..  from some various readings, there seems a couple of commands i can use.. make uninstall , make clean uninstall, & make clean which of these should i choose & what are the difference between them05:34
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PuMpErNiCkLeMake uninstall will run the uninstall scripts.  Make clean just clears out the results of running 'make'.05:39
fxrahhh right so does what does 'make clean uninstall' do? or isnt that an option?05:41
fxr*so what does05:41
Pekkeleaphisto: i think: alias cd .. = 'cd..'05:43
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PuMpErNiCkLefxr: I'm guessing it runs both, but I've never used so I could be wrong.05:46
fxrok.. yeah.. i have a wonder closer look at the readmes thanks..05:50
alnoktahow can i know where i installed gtk+ files?05:50
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mesarpehi, anyone can suggest me a nice IDE for Xubuntu. I dont like proposed on the wiki: Geany, Vim-GTK06:07
TheSheepmesarpe: what do you want it for?06:08
mesarpeTheSheep: Hi again! I am a C, C++ developer :)06:09
mesarpealso I develop on PHP06:09
TheSheepmesarpe: are you looking for text editor/debugger only, or do you also want an interface editor?06:10
mesarpeI am looking something like kate... but not kde :p06:10
TheSheephmm... SciTe maybe?06:11
alnoktayes that one is good06:12
alnoktayou mean scintella .. right?06:12
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mesarpeI m gonna try it... I had thought I tested it, but it s not installed...06:14
mesarpethanks :)06:14
mesarpeit is really nice, thanks :)06:15
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alnoktapeople , did you see this? http://tech.tolero.org/ubuntu/06:16
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TheSheepalnokta: o, nice :)06:17
=== TheSheep bookmarks
mesarpeis there any way to run a command when I quit my window manager?06:20
graziealnokta: Scintilla and SciTE...looks good06:21
alnoktayep, they did good job on it :)06:22
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alnoktaall right, logging off gnome06:24
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alnoktawell, it worked(now on 4.4) but things are a little messed up06:32
alnokta;)06:32
graziealnokta: do you think you'll sort it?06:33
grazie06:33
alnoktano idea, i'm wondering what made gnome-session starts when i chose xfce06:34
alnoktait crashed ofc06:34
graziealnokta: how come you just didn't install feisty?06:34
alnoktawhat is feisty?06:35
grazieEdfy = 6.10, Feisty = 7.0406:35
rizzoFeisty Fawn06:36
grazie*Edgy06:36
rizzofear it06:36
grazierizzo: bad experience?06:36
rizzono experience06:36
rizzojust the name inspires fear06:36
alnoktareally? i didn't about it06:36
alnokta:)06:36
grazierizzo: women problems?06:37
rizzowhere is the download page for FF?06:37
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mesarpethanks, for your help people!06:39
mesarpeshould go , bye06:39
grazierizzo: These are test releases, so don't expect perfection. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/current/06:40
alnoktagrazie, do they work?06:44
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graziealnokta: oh yes, they're great, but feisty is still under development06:45
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alnoktaso, it won't crash on me while booting?06:46
grazienot for me06:46
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alnoktaok, i will try it later06:47
grazieif you only have space for one, a stable release is wise06:48
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alnoktaah06:48
Commander-Croweanyone wanna play chess?06:49
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TheSheepCommander-Crowe: I prefer go06:51
Commander-Crowego?06:51
rizzoaka othello06:52
alnoktawhat is othello rizzo ?06:54
grazieis that the same as reversi?06:54
TheSheepCommander-Crowe: http://senseis.xmp.net/?WhatIsGo06:54
rizzograzie: I believe so06:54
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alnoktaworking good now07:08
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alnoktawhat name should i give to mousepad's MO file?07:40
alnoktait don't recognize mousepad.mo07:40
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leaphistois there a virus scanner for ubuntu?07:44
gabkdll1!antivirus07:45
ubotuantivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus07:45
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leaphisto!linuxvirus07:48
ubotuThe short life and hard times of a Linux Virus http://librenix.com/?inode=2107:48
graziealnokta: if you right clear on the .mo file and select properties I'm pretty sure you can associate it with mousepad07:49
grazieleaphisto: linux viruses just aren't worth worrying about07:50
alnoktagrazie, really? how? .. keep the answer when i return07:50
leaphistograzie: i know, but i have an autorun.inf and setup.exe on my shared folder, which sucks ass07:51
graziealnokta: what do you get if you right click and select properties?07:52
grazieleaphisto: they will not harm you linux installation07:53
Pekkewindows viruses ( most of the viruses) work and harm only windows computers.07:55
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graziealnokta: what do you get if you right click and select properties?07:59
alnoktagrazie, i don't remember, permissions and some other tabs08:00
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alnoktait works, i just had to logout login, to make it get it08:00
graziealnokta: there should be an "Open With:" dropdown too08:00
graziealnokta: I don't think so?08:01
alnoktagrazie, it worked.08:01
alnoktamousepad.mo08:01
alnoktaand it looks lovely08:01
alnoktagrazie, thanks anyway08:02
alnokta:)08:02
grazienp08:02
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hyper_chhmmm, virtualbox doesn't like my keyboard settings :(08:24
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leaphistograzie: yes, you're right, but I have my DAW working under windows so I'm afraid it can hurt the other system08:34
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grazieleaphisto: what's DAW?08:36
graziehyper_ch: you running virtualbox on windows or linux?08:37
hyper_chgrazie: on Linux08:39
grazieleaphisto: still there's no point is worrying about linux viruses08:39
graziehyper_ch: did you install outside the package manager then?08:40
hyper_chgrazie: the problem is all the special keys are not recognised such as  and hence neither {}[] $ --> which are essential for programming08:40
hyper_chgrazie: I downloaded the edgy .deb from the site08:40
hyper_chgrazie: and also the numeric keypad block isn't recognized at all08:40
graziehyper_ch: can't help you that - I'm just interested in looking at it myself08:41
hyper_chgrazie: you're from italy?08:41
leaphistograzie: Digital Audio Workstation08:41
graziehyper_ch: looks like something that could go into the repos08:41
grazieleaphisto: ok, thanks08:41
leaphistonp08:42
hyper_chgrazie: virtualbox is really nice... not as bloat as vmware and I haven't had any problems... except for the keyboard settings08:42
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hyper_chgrazie: do you have a standard (default) english keyboard layout?08:42
graziehyper_ch: no I'm british and dyslexic08:43
graziehyper_ch: keyboard is gb yes08:43
hyper_chgrazie: what's dyslexic?08:43
graziehyper_ch: word blindness...08:43
hyper_chgrazie: hmm, is that the standard layout? I tend to think the US has the standard layout08:43
graziehyper_ch: pc105 layout08:44
hyper_chdyslexic sounds really bad :(08:44
grazieonly when people treat you being stupid08:45
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hyper_chwell, dyslexic would give me tons of problems in my job08:45
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grazie!virtualbox08:49
ubotuVirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox08:49
hyper_chgrazie: wanna see somethign funny?08:51
hyper_chHow to install Vista in 2min:  http://www.isnichwahr.de/redirect22337.html08:51
grazielol. not even looked at the link yet08:52
hyper_chit's funny :)08:52
graziehyper_ch: XD.08:56
grazie Hasta la Vista, Baby!08:56
hyper_chso, gotta finish that little webpage... :)08:58
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Prisoner_hi10:40
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agreifanybody knows why gxine does not play mp3 but only ogg files?10:59
agreifinstalling libxine-extracodecs solved the problem, mp3s areplaying now fine. thanks!11:03
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Hawxyay, i got xchat working :D12:11
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