=== kalikiana|away [n=kalikian@xdsl-84-44-152-243.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu === WallyT [n=communit@blk-222-107-57.eastlink.ca] has joined #Xubuntu === thoreauputic [n=prospero@ubuntu/member/thoreauputic] has joined #xubuntu [12:35] Excuse me, I opened the Add/Remove function and attempted to install Rosegarden, but after it downloaded and installed, I searched for Rosegarden but can't find it. It still has a check-mark by it. What's wrong? [12:36] WallyT: do "aptitude search rosegarden" and tell me if there is an 'i' to the left of it (in the terminal) === Commander-Crowe [n=thomas@unaffiliated/Commander-Crowe] has joined #xubuntu === keb [n=keb@pdpc/supporter/active/keb] has left #xubuntu ["hmm"] [12:39] maxamillion: There are four, the top two have an "i", the bottom two have a "p". [12:39] WallyT: yeah, then it should be installed [12:40] I did both an appsearch and a file search and can't find it in either. [12:40] WallyT: do Alt+F2 which should give you a "run" prompt ... enter "rosegarden" in there and hit ... see if it comes up, it might just not be in the meny [12:40] menu* === WallyT [n=communit@blk-222-107-57.eastlink.ca] has left #Xubuntu [] === WallyT [n=communit@blk-222-107-57.eastlink.ca] has joined #Xubuntu [12:41] Oops. Habit, I pressed Alt+F4 [12:41] WallyT: no worries [12:42] maxamillion: It says "System timer resolution too low". [12:46] WallyT: oh wow ... i have no clue, i've never even heard of the software ... [12:47] Ahh, thank you! [12:47] WallyT: no worries ... sorry i wasn't of more help === moe_evil [n=patatama@84.78.101.138] has joined #xubuntu === kalikiana|away is now known as kalikiana === BlueEagl1 [n=blueeagl@ti541210a340-0834.bb.online.no] has joined #Xubuntu === somerville32 [n=somervil@fctnnbsc15w-156034082106.nb.aliant.net] has joined #xubuntu === pppoe_dude [n=pppoe_du@unaffiliated/blimpdude] has joined #xubuntu [01:04] hi... what is the metapackage to install just the xfce desktop environment? [01:05] with all the xfce stuff [01:05] xfce4 [01:05] !xfce4 [01:05] xfce4: meta-package for xfce4 dependencies. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.3.90.2 (edgy), package size 4 kB, installed size 48 kB [01:05] :) [01:05] pppoe_dude: you will probably want xfce4-goodies too ... that package seems popular [01:05] i get an error... that it has been replaced with xfce4-panel [01:05] im on edgy-server [01:06] :( [01:06] pppoe_dude: uhmmmm... just a moment [01:07] i added the xubuntu CD to the sources coz i already have it [01:07] ah, that's why [01:07] should i remove it? [01:07] remove the cd from the sources and just install from the online repositories [01:07] ok [01:07] because it appears that the xfce4 meta package isn't installed by default so i don't think it would be on the cd [01:08] still the same problem [01:09] pppoe_dude: you use aptitude or apt-get? [01:09] apt-get [01:09] did you do "sudo apt-get update" after you removed the cd from sources.list? [01:09] yes [01:09] .... and it still gives that error? [01:10] strange [01:10] very strange [01:11] ill install links and try to use source-o-matic [01:12] ok === FingerPie [n=Beta@be3h4c-honolulu.hawaii.cable-rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [01:12] hello there [01:12] hello [01:13] I was considering an ubuntu distro for an old laptop, less than 100 MB ram, what is suggested? [01:14] the alternate install of xubuntu? [01:14] pppoe_dude: can you pastebin the entire output from the attempt to install xfce4? === WallyT [n=communit@blk-222-107-57.eastlink.ca] has left #Xubuntu [] [01:14] FingerPie: yes, the alternate install image [01:14] maxamillion, fairly difficult since im on command-line only [01:15] is xubunti the smallest of the ubuntus? [01:15] but i managed to get a new sources.list file from source-o-matic [01:15] and elinks... so we'll see how that goes [01:15] lightest === darrend [n=darren@43-015.adsl.zetnet.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu [01:16] maxamillion, ok it worked [01:16] pppoe_dude: well, you could just do "script apt.log" then "sudo apt-get install xfce4" then Ctrl+D to kill the script log and use links to load the file to pastebin [01:16] maxamillion, i suspect the source file for the edgy-server is faulty [01:16] pppoe_dude: oh ... it worked, awesome [01:16] FingerPie, Yup [01:17] thanks [01:17] ill try the liveCD [01:17] FingerPie, How much ram do you have? [01:17] FingerPie: well, lightest of the official ubuntus ... you could try out Fluxbuntu (its a community project based on ubuntu) [01:17] somerville Mass? === spasticteapot [n=joe@76.210.61.138] has joined #xubuntu [01:17] FingerPie: also .... with less than 100mb of ram the livecd will not run [01:18] the laptop has 96 MB and a 3 Gig HD [01:18] oh [01:18] it is running slackware now [01:18] slackware live? [01:18] but i wanted something a little easier to update [01:18] FingerPie, I would use the alternative CD [01:18] FingerPie: You'll want Puppy Linux or something else suitably light. [01:18] no install [01:18] Or just run from the CLI. [01:19] FingerPie: oh, ok ... yeah xubuntu or fluxbuntu would serve your purpose well and updating is a breeze [01:19] alli use it for is IRC and the occasional image viewing [01:19] thanks [01:19] no problem, anytime [01:20] to be honest, linux breathed enough life into this antique that i never got around to throwing it out [01:22] FingerPie: that's good to hear! ... glad to see people are utilizing the power linux has to offer [01:22] FingerPie: what desktop environment are you running with Slackware? [01:23] now KDE [01:23] FingerPie: Xfce is alot faster then KDE, i think you will like Xubuntu [01:24] thanks [01:24] no problem [01:24] ok... [01:24] pppoe_dude: ? [01:25] pppoe_dude: lemme guess ... X won't start? [01:25] so, xfce is running... but i only have one little panel on top with a non-functioning icon [01:25] ohhh ok [01:25] i installed xdm [01:25] when you right click the panel, does anything happen? [01:25] i have a one-button mouse [01:26] but F11 (i think) emulates the right button [01:26] gives me a workspace list if clicked on desktop [01:26] but nothing otherwise [01:26] oh wait.. [01:26] pppoe_dude: you on a Mac I assume? [01:26] F12 gives me "customise/add items etc [01:26] maxamillion, yes [01:26] :) [01:27] any quick panel configurations? [01:27] pppoe_dude: yeah, i ran Xubuntu on my iBookG4 before I had to sell it [01:27] i guess now i can add everything... ok cool :) [01:27] pppoe_dude: you will want to add a "Xfce Menu" ... :) [01:27] maxamillion, thanks [01:27] pppoe_dude: anytime :) === amaranthinenight [n=chatzill@pool-70-105-210-139.scr.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === cyberyak [n=Cyberyak@cpe-70-116-100-9.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [01:59] um? === root [n=root@adsl-70-241-11-51.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #Xubuntu [02:03] anyone know the command to remove ssh from a server through apt-get? [02:04] anyone? [02:06] lol [02:06] You want to remove the server or the client? === cellofellow [n=josh@69.71.170.254] has joined #xubuntu === rexbinary [n=rexbinar@unaffiliated/rexbinary] has joined #xubuntu [02:33] drx0drx, did you ever get your partitions taken care of? === eclips1 [n=eclipse@c-67-187-244-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === j1mc [n=j1m@adsl-75-21-77-18.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:47] cyberyak, no, I tried to umount /dev/sda3 and it said it's not in the fstab (and you are not root) [02:48] did you use sudo? [02:52] hey, it looks like compiz/beryl/whatever has been deferred from the _ubuntu feisty release. [02:52] j1mc: How do you know? [02:52] that means that it won't be installed by default in _ubuntu 7.4 [02:52] http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20070205#news [02:53] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/composite-by-default [02:53] the launchpad notice says "deferred." [02:54] cyberyak, that did it, thanks!!! one last question: the HowTo I'm using says to create a 1GB boot partition and then a swap and then a system partition... is there great wisdom in having separate boot & system partitions? [02:55] somerville32, i guess you would know more about it, or you could find out more about it. [02:55] maybe that is wrong or something. [02:55] not really. There used to be many reasons. I also used to have a separate partition for /var so that if there were issues with log files, they didn't crash the system. [02:55] . . . it's just a news story, and no official announcement has been made. [02:56] drx0drx, linux will boot from an extended partition. [02:56] drx0drx, Windows, however, will not. [02:59] cyberyak, as I discovered. so, you don't think it's still smart to place log files for journalled file systems on a separate partition? [02:59] for the average machine, no. [02:59] cyberyak, for a mission critical server? [03:00] you shouldn't be dual booting a mission critical server. [03:01] cyberyak, no choice -- we have to create VM Images on the same hardware and the Linux VM builder freezes so we have to use Windows for that, but once it's up, we won't need it [03:01] cyberyak, what was in the 1GB boot partition anyway? and, how did the installer know what to put in /boot versus putting everything in / ? [03:02] I don't typically create a boot partition that big. [03:02] cyberyak, so if I create a /boot in the Extended partition, will the installer know what to put there or do I have to manually move things there later? [03:03] why are you making this so difficult? [03:04] cyberyak, i'm just asking because it was in the FAQ and I have no idea why nor the value. [03:04] Everything past /boot in the directory structure would be placed in /boot, even if it were a separate partition. [03:04] The value is because /boot holds your bootable kernel. Having it on a separate partition prevents some scenarios which could hose that. [03:05] PuMpErNiCkLe, would you create a /boot in the extended partition on a mission critical server? [03:06] PuMpErNiCkLe, if so, do you think 1GB is just right or too large or too small? [03:06] Depends on what I'm doing with the server; most likely, it's an unnecessary precaution. [03:06] PuMpErNiCkLe, reliability and recoverability are tantamount over speed & ease of configuration. [03:06] Way too large... /boot on my system is currently 8.3MB. [03:07] PuMpErNiCkLe, should I forget about a separate boot or do you think it provides some value? What are the scenarios it protects against? [03:08] my /boot partition is around 50mb, but i hear that's a lot . . . [03:09] i'm not sure how much of it is taken, but i know i have plenty of space. [03:09] yeah, we used to say 100 meg when you were placing kernels there. === Mlittle [n=Mlittle@rn-was3a19.uwaterloo.ca] has joined #xubuntu [03:09] drx0drx: File system corruption, mostly. Separating it from other parts makes it easier to recover /boot, even if other sections get ruined. === Wizaado [n=Wizaado@c-68-35-207-145.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:11] I suppose you could also mount it read-only, to prevent a careless admin from accidentally messing with it. I've never looked into that, though. === Laibsc1 [n=Laibsch@R7654.r.ppp-pool.de] has joined #xubuntu === FordPrefectNZ [n=Ford@203-114-182-15.dsl.sta.inspire.net.nz] has joined #xubuntu [03:16] ello ello. anyone here know of a non-GNOME way to change a metacity theme? or anything to do with metacity come to think of it... thankies in advance [03:17] Metacity is apart of Gnome [03:17] So no [03:18] im sure there was at some stage a seperate little program to control it [03:18] i know its a part of gnome, but that doesnt stop people from using kwin in odd places.. :P [03:19] cyberyak, gparted keeps reporting my 40GB ext3 partition as 1GB, reports swap OK? [03:19] FordPrefectNZ, check out xwinman.org they may have a link to some metacity stuff. [03:19] i have [03:19] that's the only place I'd know to look. [03:20] but ah found it... oh yes, of course its something we wouldnt have in the repos lol [03:21] cyberyak, and of course, it won't install because it says the partition is too small! [03:21] drx0drx, do you have windows installed? [03:21] in which case, ill pose you another question. whats a good window manager besides xfwm4 to use with xfce4? (dont say xfwm4 integrates well so you should use it, it has a few niggly annoyances i cant live with) [03:21] cyberyak, yes, but only on the first partition (FAT32) [03:22] and how much free space do you have after that partition? [03:23] None, there is a 173.70GB Extended partition, but I'd be happy to blow it away for now. [03:23] drx0drx, run fdisk [03:23] delete all but that windows partition [03:24] cyberyak, I did -- that's what you helped me accomplish, happy to do it again? [03:25] drx0drx, then, when you have a 173G of free space, do the install. [03:25] ahhh, wait. [03:26] cyberyak, why is my FAT32 Windows partition have a flag "boot"? [03:26] because that is the bootable partition. [03:26] cyberyak, I deleted the Extended partition and it still sees the 40GB / partition as 1GB === rizzo [n=rizzo@adsl-69-215-151-43.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:27] because that is all the MBR knows about at this point. [03:27] cyberyak, trouble is, it won't let me install, says I need 2GB [03:27] when you install, did you partition like I told you to? [03:29] I created a swap partition and then a 40GB ext3, both primaries, both right after the FAT32 === FordPrefectNZ [n=Ford@203-114-182-15.dsl.sta.inspire.net.nz] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:30] partition 2 Primary 50 meg /boot [03:30] partition 3 Primary 40 G / ext3 [03:31] cyberyak, and the swap? [03:31] partition 4 Primary (how much mem you have to 2x mem) /swap [03:31] cyberyak, I need e [03:32] cyberyak, extended partition, need > 4 [03:32] why? [03:32] why? [03:32] cyberyak, for VMs [03:32] cyberyak, for data [03:32] ok [03:32] part 1 windows [03:32] cyberyak, would rather give up /boot [03:33] I would if it were me. [03:33] cyberyak, yeah, no one explained anything that was compelling for this situation [03:35] hi, is m4a support program specific, or can anyone here help me? [03:35] i'm trying to play m4a files in Banshee [03:35] cyberyak, this time it went lol [03:36] drx0drx, part 1 primary windows NTFS (or Fat32) [03:36] k [03:37] msttcorefonts has been depricated? what has taken its place? [03:37] cyberyak, now it said "failed to create a file system" [03:38] that's never good. [03:38] cyberyak, about 1/2 way through the install [03:40] I'd say, boot to the live cd, drop out to command prompt, run fdisk and set up the partitions. [03:41] cyberyak, now it says "Installer crashed" [03:41] that can't be good. [03:42] cyberyak, the key part of the message seems to be "OS Error: [Errno 30] Read-only file system: '/target/bin' [03:42] cyberyak, I installed SLES 10 no problem, should I go back to SLES or use Fedora 6? [03:43] since I honestly don't know what you are ultimately trying to do, I can't suggest anything. [03:43] just trying to install ubuntu [03:44] what kind of hardware are you installing this onto? [03:45] cyberyak, IBM xServer 3500 (Xeon 64 Dual Core, Adaptec SAS/SATA RAID on-board) [03:48] drx0drx, which cd are you installing from? [03:49] whenever i try to install feisty (xubuntu), it sees my IDE drives as SCSI drives. [03:50] so i don't attempt the install . . . [03:50] if they are sata, that wouldn't surpise me. [03:51] j1mc: It's a feature, actually. [03:51] They're using sd* as the naming convention now. [03:51] really? [03:51] cyberyak, 6.06 LTs [03:51] anyone here know how to get m4a's to work? [03:52] PuMpErNiCkLe, where can i find out more about this feature? [03:52] drx0drx, why not use edgy? 6.10? [03:52] don't have the CD and I haven't found it has helped fix any of the "fesitiness" in 6.06 [03:53] j1mc: I'm looking for a link. [03:53] thx. [03:53] drx0drx, are you using the 64 bit alternate cd? [03:53] cyberyak, No [03:54] drx0drx, which one are you using? [03:55] cyberyak, 6.06 LTS (I think it's 32-bit, it's the one they ship out) [03:57] If it were me, and I were running a 64 bit processor, I would use the most recent stable version and the 64 bit CD. [03:58] I would suggest downloading the edgy eft 64 bit desktop or alternate cd. [04:01] j1mc: It's a kernel change that occurred in 2.6.19. http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_19 [04:02] cyberyak, I may try Debian or Fedora 6, I've heard positive things about the latter with Xen. [04:03] k, good luck. [04:04] cyberyak, thanks for all the help! === pppoe_dude [n=pppoe_du@206-248-129-69.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #xubuntu === chatnoir [n=chatnoir@216.144.113.183] has joined #xubuntu === bigfuzzyjesus [n=paul@12.206.21.84] has joined #xubuntu === eclips1 [n=eclipse@c-67-187-244-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has left #xubuntu [] === pppoe_dude [n=pppoe_du@unaffiliated/blimpdude] has joined #xubuntu [04:45] hellO!" === chatnoir [n=chatnoir@216.144.113.183] has left #xubuntu ["Quitte"] === Commander-Crowe [n=chatzill@unaffiliated/Commander-Crowe] has joined #xubuntu === j1mc [n=j1m@adsl-75-21-77-18.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu === bigfuzzyjesus [n=paul@12.206.21.84] has joined #xubuntu [05:16] join #freenode-offtopic [05:16] crap [05:17] :D [05:18] thats not even a channel [05:18] i mean -social [05:19] :) [05:20] eh [05:20] :-0 [05:20] ;) [05:20] he [05:20] chatzilla can make smilies [05:21] yey. === anon_ [n=david@208.42.242.125] has joined #xubuntu === anon__ [n=david@208.42.242.125] has joined #xubuntu === blimpdude [n=pppoe_du@unaffiliated/blimpdude] has joined #xubuntu === cyros [n=cyros@cpe-69-203-123-246.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === cellofellow [n=josh@69.71.170.254] has joined #xubuntu [06:26] I upgraded to Java 6 and now firefox isn't working with Java. Any pointers? [06:26] upgrade firefox ? [06:27] It's Swiftfox 2.0.0.1 [06:27] Can't upgrade that any more [06:27] I think I have firefox's config wrong. === malnilion [n=malnilio@129.244.27.36] has joined #xubuntu === blimpdude [n=pppoe_du@unaffiliated/blimpdude] has joined #xubuntu === heartofgold [n=pppoe_du@206-248-129-69.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #xubuntu === heartofgold [n=pppoe_du@unaffiliated/blimpdude] has left #xubuntu ["Only] === alnoktaalt [n=alnokta@unaffiliated/alnokta] has joined #xubuntu === DarthLappy [n=Angus@pdpc/supporter/student/DarthShrine] has joined #xubuntu === Commander-Crowe [n=thomas@unaffiliated/Commander-Crowe] has joined #xubuntu === DarthLappy [n=Angus@pdpc/supporter/student/DarthShrine] has joined #xubuntu === xfceubuntu [n=pegger@82-131-152-152.pool.invitel.hu] has joined #xubuntu [08:25] hi === maxamillion [n=max@r74-192-178-37.htvlcmta01.hnvitx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #xubuntu === malnilion [n=malnilio@129.244.131.96] has joined #xubuntu === gunny01 [n=tom@ppp111-154.lns5.adl4.internode.on.net] has joined #xubuntu === locobot_2 [n=UbuntuLo@sd-7595.dedibox.fr] has joined #xubuntu === grazie [n=grazie@86.150.247.53] has joined #xubuntu === gunny01 [n=tom@ppp111-154.lns5.adl4.internode.on.net] has left #xubuntu [] === pillo [n=ombre@p54962CBC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #xubuntu === uR|iC`ipx [n=ipx@203-214-23-4.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #xubuntu === Dh3Y0 [n=dheyo@124.43.210.237] has joined #xubuntu === Laibsc1 is now known as Laibsch === grumpymole [n=warren@c220-237-175-49.lowrp1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu === alnoktaalt is now known as alnokta === rag [n=rag@58.Red-80-24-33.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === moe_evil [n=patatama@eu99-71-192.clientes.euskaltel.es] has joined #xubuntu === moe_evil [n=patatama@eu99-71-192.clientes.euskaltel.es] has left #xubuntu ["Ex-Chat"] === Dh3Y0 [n=dheyo@124.43.225.128] has joined #xubuntu === malnilion [n=malnilio@129.244.27.33] has joined #xubuntu === pillo [n=ombre@p54962CBC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #xubuntu === matt4magic [n=matt4mag@iderifr.hh.se] has joined #xubuntu [11:05] Hi! Is there a xUbuntu-net-install image? [11:05] A small footprint that is... === tim [n=tim@host86-133-60-43.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has joined #xubuntu === TheSheep [n=sheep@atos.wmid.amu.edu.pl] has joined #xubuntu === DarthLappy [n=Angus@pdpc/supporter/student/DarthShrine] has joined #xubuntu [11:53] matt4magic, look for the server install cd :) === Dh3Y0 [n=dheyo@124.43.225.128] has joined #xubuntu [12:02] i m trying to install libsndfile-1.0.17 but at the end this shows up "Compiling some other packages against libsndfile may require the addition of "/usr/local/lib/pkgconfig" to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable." how do i complete the installation [12:07] Dh3Y0, so does it actuall output an error message apart from that? [12:08] kalikiana; i dont understand what u mean? [12:11] kalikiana; ?, it says configuration complete but i still cant install hydrogen it says the libsndfile is stil missing [12:13] Dh3Y0, so you did ./configure && sudo make install? [12:14] were there spcific errors? did you install it to the right path? [12:14] i just went to the directory and typed ./configure [12:14] i m still new [12:15] ah, ok. it just wasn't clear to me what you did. [12:16] so configure gave you no errors? [12:16] no just the above [12:16] ok, so type "sudo make install". [12:17] this will install it to /usr/local/bin i assume. [12:17] yay its working [12:17] so y did that come up btw [12:18] call it a notice, not an error. in some cases the program requiring libsndfile might not find it on its own, so you can specify the path manually. === Grey_Loki [n=Loki@host86-142-150-143.range86-142.btcentralplus.com] has joined #xubuntu [12:45] back again [12:46] i just installed Flac but wen i start with configuring hyrdrogen this comes up "configure: error: "FLAC++ library not found. FLAC website: http://flac.sourceforge.net" === kalikiana [n=kalikian@xdsl-87-78-115-219.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu [12:52] kalikiana; u there man [12:54] Dh3Y0, how did you install Flac? [12:55] apt-get [12:56] Grey_Loki; with the apt-get command === Grey_Loki grins [12:56] I guessed [12:56] I'm just googlin' [12:56] Just to be sure, you ran 'sudo apt-get install flac', right? [12:57] Grey_Loki; yeah it installed allright i think, i mean no errors came up [12:57] Hmm. Do you still have a log of it you can pastebin? [12:57] Did it also install liboggflac3? === pjgat09 [n=pjgat09@69.183.22.145] has joined #xubuntu [12:57] !packages [12:57] You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search ", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways! [12:58] Grey_Loki; no i closed it :( [12:58] Ah, no problem [12:58] You're usind Edgy? [12:58] no dapper === darrend [n=darren@43-015.adsl.zetnet.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu [01:02] Grey_Loki; dapper [01:06] Dh3Y0, just scratching, but I can run FLAC files, and I have libflac++5c2 installed as well [01:06] I suggest you get that, and if it doesn't work, remove it [01:06] Other than that, i'm afraid I can't offer any advice [01:07] Grey_Loki; thanks === esc_on_anakin [n=esc@p57BB763D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #xubuntu [01:20] hiho, what's the name of that other virtualization software (not vmware)? [01:20] Bochs? [01:20] Wine? [01:20] Cedega? === Grey_Loki grins [01:21] Grey_Loki: nope, it's like vmware... you run a virtual windows in your linux box... but there's another one yet that has become opensourced not too long ago... [01:21] Aha# [01:21] No idea, sorry === cyros [n=cyros@cpe-69-203-123-246.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-200-45.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:00] !qemu | hyper_ch [02:00] hyper_ch: qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo [02:00] grazie: thx... so far I used vmware but I heard virtualbox is better === cyros [n=cyros@cpe-69-203-123-246.nyc.res.rr.com] has left #xubuntu [] === geo- [n=geo@195.34.87.147] has joined #xubuntu [02:01] hello [02:02] hyper_ch: never even heard of virtualbox myself. vmware is great, qemu is opensource though === cyros [n=cyros@cpe-69-203-123-246.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [02:04] grazie: vmware sometimes has tons of problems switching between host and virtual system === baconvanhood [n=bacon@vhe-367407.sshn.net] has joined #xubuntu === Se1 [n=serqiu@195.22.243.10] has joined #xubuntu [02:07] hello [02:08] who can help me to find an "qt library" [02:08] with sudo aptitude install [02:10] Se1: apt-cache search qt [02:10] and then look at the output which package you need [02:14] hyper_ch: Oh OK, I never had any problem, but don't use it much. However, I am trying to find (without success) ppc emulation sw [02:15] ppc emulation? [02:15] grazie: what kind of ppc platform? [02:15] grazie: well, I use still windows for a few things... I just love UltraEdit... and I watch TV through Zattoo and there's a few other things === Se1 [n=serqiu@195.22.243.10] has left #xubuntu [] === tim__ [n=tim@host86-133-60-43.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has joined #xubuntu [02:30] gordonjcp: What ppc platform I am try to use? A g4 mac === BrendanM [n=mccollam@hor-gold95.hor.ucl.ac.uk] has joined #xubuntu [02:31] Where can you suggest software to add to Xubuntu Feisty? [02:31] grazie: so what are you trying to emulate? [02:32] gordonjcp: ppc linux [02:32] you've got a ppc processor, you don't need to emulate it ;-) [02:32] gordonjcp: yes I do ;) [02:34] BrendanM: don't understand? === nichoj [n=nichoj@gentoo/developer/nichoj] has joined #xubuntu === moe_evil [n=patatama@eu99-71-192.clientes.euskaltel.es] has joined #xubuntu [02:43] !uuid [02:43] To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: blkid (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID) === Wizaado [n=Wizaado@c-68-35-207-145.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === moe_evil [n=patatama@eu99-71-192.clientes.euskaltel.es] has left #xubuntu ["Ex-Chat"] [02:48] A default installation of xUbuntu in qemu just had some problems with a screen saver called rot... something [02:49] Is this a known error or should I make notes about it? === cga [n=cga@213-140-6-101.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #xubuntu [02:52] Grazie, I'd like to make a couple requests/suggestions for Xubuntu Feisty. I was wondering if there was a forum or a wiki or something somewhere to do that? [02:52] hey guys I have xubuntu on my laptop and when I close the lid I have to log bag in when I open it, anyone know how I turn that off? [02:59] You could try unchecking the "lock after ..." in the screensaver settings === alnokta [n=alnokta@unaffiliated/alnokta] has joined #xubuntu [02:59] I'm not sure if that would do it, but I think the lock after hibernate is part of the screensaver [02:59] TheSheep, are you there? === ottod [n=otto@190.57.96.113] has joined #xubuntu [03:03] alnokta: yes? === ottod [n=otto@190.57.96.113] has left #xubuntu [] [03:03] lol where would I find said screen saver settings? [03:03] I uninstalled xfce beta using apt-get [03:04] BrendanM: The forums I guess, although what's going in to Feisty will be pretty much frozen now [03:04] and i'm using gnome right now until i install xfce 4.4 [03:04] i am downloading this file http://www.de.xfce.org/archive/xfce-4.4.0/installers/xfce4-4.4.0-installer.run [03:04] is that okay? [03:05] or do i need to download the rest from here too? http://www.de.xfce.org/archive/xfce-4.4.0/installers/ [03:05] anyone know how to edit the screen saver? === nichoj [n=nichoj@gentoo/developer/nichoj] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:07] geo-: Not on xubuntu right now, but something like Applications > Settings > ScreenSaver [03:08] it's not on settings or system === case [n=vitali@80.178.138.166.adsl.012.net.il] has joined #xubuntu [03:09] BrendanM: if you want to get packages into the feisty repos that's a different matter [03:11] hmm I found it [03:11] alnokta: I think it will download everything it needs automagically === WallyT [n=communit@blk-222-107-57.eastlink.ca] has joined #Xubuntu [03:14] TheSheep, okay [03:14] Excuse me, I just made an application launcher for the top panel, but I don't know how to find the icon I want. I want the Epiphany Web Browser icon, where would that be stored? [03:15] it might be in /usr/share/pixmaps [03:16] but I'm not sure === BrendanM [n=mccollam@hor-gold95.hor.ucl.ac.uk] has left #xubuntu [] [03:16] WallyT: /usr/share/icons/GNOME/scalable/applications/ [03:18] Thank you, but it's not there. === MattJ [n=matthew@88-111-226-40.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:24] It's not even in /usr/share/epiphany-browser/art, that seems strange to me. [03:26] I found a substitute, it's the same picture, just a little darker. Language-selector.png [03:26] Thanks for the help! [03:33] Is there a known issue with the screensavers in the default installation? Should I make a bug report on it? [03:38] Great - thanks. This is the peak of the Ubuntu-team-spirit. === matt4magic [n=matt4mag@iderifr.hh.se] has left #xubuntu ["Lmnar"] [03:46] i get compilation error, the installer cannot compile the gui === johansalim [i=G3b0ys@ip84-222.cbn.net.id] has joined #xubuntu [03:47] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4414/ [03:48] anyone knows what might cause that? === arualavi [n=Iva@67.Red-83-33-5.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:00] alnokta: too old cairo library maybe? [04:00] alnokta: It's missing a library. Probably libcairo2-dev. [04:00] TheSheep++ [04:00] PuMpErNiCkLe: if it was missing, woudn't the error be different? [04:01] libcairo2-dev is already the newest version. [04:01] alnokta: gdk? [04:01] TheSheep: No, not really. It's an undefined reference - it can't find what's it's supposed to be referencing. [04:02] alnokta: what version of xubuntu is that? [04:02] Ideally, you'd get an error during the initial configuration. [04:02] PuMpErNiCkLe: but woudn't it complain about a missing file if the whole library was missing? [04:02] the one after dapper [04:02] edgy [04:03] PuMpErNiCkLe: this looks like the library is there, but it is missing some symbols [04:03] PuMpErNiCkLe: as if they weren't in that version yet [04:04] PuMpErNiCkLe: or there is a missing -l [04:04] what is the name of 'gdk' package? [04:04] It's the same error for both cases. [04:04] gdk-imlib1 - compatibility package for gdk-imlib11 ? [04:08] It looks like those are defined in cairo-xlib.h, which is provided by libcairo2-dev. [04:08] is it fixable? [04:09] alnokta: have you tried asking at #xfce? [04:09] alnokta: they might know it better [04:09] cairo-xlib.h gets installed to /usr/include/cairo, but your build is searching for it in /usr/local/include/cairo, so unless it's providing the library itself, it would fail like this. [04:09] TheSheep, they directed me at first to here :) , then i asked that question, one said : [04:10] alnokta, it appears that your gdk or cairo is broken. [04:11] :) === xfceubuntu [n=pegger@82.131.222.203.pool.invitel.hu] has joined #xubuntu === WallyT [n=communit@blk-222-107-57.eastlink.ca] has left #Xubuntu [] [04:12] PuMpErNiCkLe: that's just a .h file, the symbols are in the .so files [04:12] besides, this function name is weird: c68568456_activated [04:15] PuMpErNiCkLe, how do i know that? === quad3datwork [n=quad3dat@12.110.209.75] has joined #xubuntu === Cimi [n=Cimi@host142-147.pool80116.interbusiness.it] has joined #xubuntu [04:23] hi xubuntu dev [04:23] i'm Cimi, murrine dev [04:24] i've heard of the intention to use my engine inside your distro, and then of the "main" requirement [04:24] could someone speaks me about this? [04:25] TheSheep: Which it looks like it's failing to build. [04:25] Cimi: I'm afraid the devs are rarely available on the channels [04:25] TheSheep, so where i can contact them? [04:26] Cimi: xubuntu-dev mailing list seems to be the best bet, the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu might be a good way too [04:26]