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yuriy>:( i have a pc magazine here that has "best free software for 2007" on the cover01:53
yuriythere's also a "the vista supremacy" article about how vista will succeed by default that doesn't even mention linux01:58
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LureRiddell: can you kick knetworkmanager trough build: https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/29852608:26
LureRiddell: otherwise we will not get KubuntuLaptopNetwork08:26
LureRiddell: problem is that we need to have networkstatus and networstatus-dev in main08:27
LureRiddell: you mentioned it is "just seed issue" last time, since source (kdepim) is already in main08:27
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_StefanS_hi there09:46
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Hobbseenixternal: i am11:01
Hobbseenixternal: well, sometimes11:01
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paineshi11:23
painesI have a problem with feisty, amarok and my ipod. I cannot choose Apple Ipod for the detected devices. any idea what that is ?11:23
Riddellpaines: try updating to 1.4.5-0ubuntu211:27
Tm_T:)11:27
Tm_THmm, I start downloading feisty packages I think, time to break system. ;)11:27
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painesRiddell, okay. thanks man11:28
Tm_THi ltmon11:29
ltmonAre there any known problems with "/media" since upgrading to kde 3.5.6, particularly in relation to removable USB devices?  Mine won't show up on the desktop or auto-mount, but will in "media:/".11:29
ltmonTm_T: hi there11:29
serzholinoltmon: here it acts exactly like in 3.5.511:30
serzholinoin edgy11:30
ltmonyep11:30
ltmoni was getting kind of flaky results in 3.5.5 - it would stop working after suspend/resume, but not working at all now11:31
ltmonany ideas for a debugging process?11:31
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Riddellltmon: Sime might have ideas?11:43
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ltmonSime: ping...?11:43
ltmonRiddell: I'll post to kubuntu mailing lists tomorrow and see if there are any ideas, thanks anyway11:44
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fritschRiddell: is something known about kde356 edgy regression on xorg consuming 100% load after locking the session and waiting for some minutes?12:30
Riddellfritsch: I've not heard of that12:31
fritschoki, so i must fill a bug then, but first i check with nv driver12:32
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_StefanS_Riddell: how does it work on the debdiff if I have added a few more png's to th ksmserver directory ?01:15
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_StefanS_Riddell: ping ?01:16
Riddelloh, you have to do evil things there01:16
Riddelluuencode and aa that01:17
Riddellwhat PNGs have you added?01:17
_StefanS_Riddell: hibernate, logout, suspend, restart, poweroff01:17
_StefanS_5 png's01:17
Riddellwe already have icons for those01:17
_StefanS_Riddell: they're in th Human, or what ?01:17
Riddellthey're in crystal01:18
_StefanS_Riddell: err.. where ? :)01:18
Riddell/usr/share/icons/crystalsvg/48x48/actions/hibernate.png01:18
Riddell** edgy amarok testers needed  deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-145/ edgy main01:18
_StefanS_ah01:18
Riddellthis should be a patch to the normal logout dialogue, which already uses those icons01:19
_StefanS_Riddell: yep I understand.01:20
_StefanS_Riddell: how should I reference those ? ksmserver expects icons to be in /usr/share/ksmserver/pics01:21
Riddelluse the normal kiconloader01:21
_StefanS_Riddell: ah they're accessible by just referring by the name, right ? like hibernate01:21
RiddellI presume it does so already01:22
_StefanS_yep01:22
Riddellyes01:22
_StefanS_yep yes01:22
_StefanS_:D01:22
_StefanS_I going to test them now01:23
_StefanS_The rest is working btw01:26
Riddellscreenshot screenshot!01:32
Hobbseeooh, pretty shiny?01:33
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Hobbseeoh drat, i cant apply for a holiday for next week, only the week after.  *cries*01:33
_StefanS_http://enhance-it.dk/screen3.png01:34
_StefanS_still with the old icons though01:34
Hobbseenice!01:35
Hobbseethen again, "end current session" can be kinda confusing.01:35
_StefanS_yea tell me about it..01:36
_StefanS_my wife has asked me alot of times how she should logout01:36
_StefanS_"end session".. thats really a programmers wording01:36
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_StefanS_can we change the text?01:37
praetor_StefanS_: i like it :-)01:37
Riddellsure01:37
praetorclean, clear, simple01:37
_StefanS_praetor: thanks :)01:37
_StefanS_yep01:37
fritschRiddell: [amarok145-edgy] : 120GB music collection succesfully read into mysql db01:37
_StefanS_even ditched that "end session for user xxx"01:38
Riddellfritsch: !01:38
praetorhas anyone here used rockbox firmware before?01:38
Riddellimbrandon: I've updated libmtp and added non-installed files to amarok01:39
Riddellfritsch: no problems?01:39
fritschRiddell: no problem reading in01:39
fritschRiddell: now it is playing some songs01:40
RiddellI'd say if it can handle 120GB of music it's ready for the masses01:40
fritschRiddell: i plug in my ipod now, and after that i let it playing with last.fm plugin01:40
_StefanS_Riddell: to get the right size for the icons, I should use DesktopIcon, right ?01:42
_StefanS_Riddell: 48x4801:42
Riddell_StefanS_: yes01:44
_StefanS__StefanS_: good, 'cause I couldn't find any matches closer to that :)01:44
fritschRiddell: mmh playing, last.fm, ipod was working ... i will report problems, just let it playing now ... this is on AMD64 version01:46
_StefanS_Riddell: what icon should I use for reboot ?01:53
Riddellreload is the current one I think01:54
_StefanS_Riddell: which one is logout ?01:54
_StefanS_back or something ?01:55
Riddellundo01:55
_StefanS_oka01:57
_StefanS_just put in all the icons, and I'm compiling for the last time ... I hope ;)01:59
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_StefanS_Riddell: It sort of looks like crap now... http://enhance-it.dk/test1.png02:11
_StefanS_brb02:12
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_StefanS_back02:16
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_StefanS_well the buttons work.. I just restarted my computer by accident02:25
_StefanS_:)02:26
Riddell_StefanS_: excellent02:28
_StefanS_Riddell: http://enhance-it.dk/test2.png this one has the all buttons02:28
Riddell_StefanS_: it doesn't matter much if the icons look bad, we can get kwwii to make some matching ones02:28
_StefanS_Riddell: I have removed "computer" from the text, making the buttons more simple to read, will post that in a moment02:29
_StefanS_Riddell: no point in having "Turn off computer", "hibernate computer", "suspend computer" etc..02:30
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Hobbseehttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/8375702:31
Hobbseeyep02:31
UbugtuMalone bug 83757 in Ubuntu "Dangerous default settings in Kubuntu Installer" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 02:31
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HobbseeRiddell: ^02:32
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_StefanS_Hobbsee: does it need a confirm box ?02:33
abattoirdoesn't qtparted already have one?02:33
Hobbseeabattoir: sure, but the "auto partition my drive" doesnt show qtparted to the user, it just does it02:33
abattoirHobbsee: aah ok02:33
Hobbsee_StefanS_: seems so.  i'd be surprised if it doesnt already02:34
_StefanS_Hobbsee: as the reporter says he just be too old... :)02:34
Hobbseeheh02:34
Hobbseei dont think the installer can be idiot proofed that much02:34
_StefanS_nope probably not.02:34
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Hobbseegah, i definetly should call in sick to work tomorrow.02:35
_StefanS_I really like that new darken effect when hovering over icons02:38
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_StefanS_Riddell: 30kb patch coming your way...02:52
_StefanS_Riddell: See what you think02:52
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_StefanS_hmm It needs some more spacing though03:00
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mhbhello everyone03:04
_StefanS_mhb: hey you.. got a screenshot for you ... another one hehe03:04
_StefanS_2secs03:04
_StefanS_mhb: http://enhance-it.dk/test2.png03:05
_StefanS_mhb: from that screenshot I have removed all "computer" text, since it was sort of implicit03:05
mhb_StefanS_: nice03:06
mhb_StefanS_: and it's aligned, too03:06
_StefanS_mhb: yes.. its quite amazing :)03:06
mhball it needs are a few icons03:06
_StefanS_remember, my style doesnt have icons.. I will provide you with a screenshot in a moment from a standard kubuntu03:07
mhbyou can clearly see how the "Log out" icon is bad03:07
_StefanS_mhb: already pointed that out to Riddel, but that is what there is at the moment.03:08
mhb_StefanS_: I know, those icons were bad before03:08
_StefanS_mhb: something like the back.png would be better for the logout i think03:09
Hobbsee_StefanS_: what's the temp thing on your kicker?03:09
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_StefanS_Hobbsee: kima.. a very cool applet03:10
_StefanS_Hobbsee: used to be called cpuspeed I think03:10
Hobbseeah03:10
Hobbseenot in repos03:10
_StefanS_Hobbsee: It should be IMHO..03:10
mhbkwwii: about?03:11
Riddellmhb: is grubconfig in svn?03:11
_StefanS_Hobbsee: another cool one is the simple system monitor, which makes a spinning retangular box that speeds up and down depending on cpu load. Its good at revealing I/O03:11
Hobbseenice... :)03:11
mhbRiddell: did you read yesterday's log?03:11
Hobbsee_StefanS_: didnt see that one03:12
Riddellmhb: nope03:12
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mhbgoodnight Hobbsee03:12
_StefanS_night03:12
Jucatonight Hobbsee03:12
Riddellmhb: what happened?03:12
Hobbseenight!03:13
_StefanS_Riddell: I might have a little addon to that diff you got.. the spacing between the buttons should be wider now that the text is narrower03:13
_StefanS_Riddell: on line 335: change the factor to 803:14
mhbRiddell: okay, I'll recap then ... seele and sebas pointed out that update-grub script actually resets the Ubuntu kernel names, order, etc. ... it even sets the disabled kernels again if you didn't remove them. It would limit the grubconfig's functionality to the extent of it not being useful for users at all (people could only change non-ubuntu related entries and they basically don't need that)03:15
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Riddell_StefanS_: cool, I'm out to lunch, I'll look at it after03:15
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_StefanS_Riddell: sure03:15
Riddellmhb: hmm, ok03:15
mhbRiddell: so update-grub needs to be improved first, and we can't fix that in this release.03:16
mhbRiddell: sorry to tell you that03:20
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fritschRiddell: sorry, have to fill a bug :-( kde screen lock slowly bring cpu usage up to 100% chvt1 and back restores03:24
fritschmmmh no offical kde 3.5.6 launchpad kde entries :-(03:28
kwwiimhb: yepp03:32
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mhbkwwii: I wanted to know - since artwork finishes later than features, are you able to change the application binding?04:09
mhbkwwii: so the app searches for a specific icon ... you can't change that, can you?04:09
kwwiimhb: nope04:10
mhbkwwii: oh04:10
kwwiianything remotely technical is out of the question, i am afraid04:10
mhbkwwii: because the newest screenshot from _StefanS_ contained binding to standard KDE icons04:10
mhbkwwii: you know, the "undo" for log out04:11
kwwiihrm, I guess it would be best to ask Riddell that04:11
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bddebianHeya04:12
Jucatohi bddebian04:12
bddebianHi Jucato04:13
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_StefanS_mhb: its easy to change the icon bindings within the code, if thats what you mean04:16
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mhb_StefanS_: I know04:21
mhb_StefanS_: but we have to do that before Feature Freeze or it stays04:21
mhbRiddell: is someone going to repackage polyester today? kwwii noted that someone should have disabled the shaded text in Polyester menus. If you will package that, I can add a little patch that makes the radiobuttons and checkboxes lipstik-like (checks, not black but rather greyish)04:25
zakameevening all04:25
_StefanS_mhb: oh, I thought they were to be described as bugfixes04:25
_StefanS_mhb: sort of ;)04:25
bddebianHeya zakame04:28
_StefanS_mhb: here's the screenshot from a standard kubuntu: http://enhance-it.dk/test3.png04:30
_StefanS_Riddell: I've sent you an updated diff, disregard the previous one.04:31
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mhbLure: hi04:41
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Luremhb: hi04:50
mhbLure: you're responsible for the new shutdown effect?04:51
Luremhb: no, I think it is _StefanS_04:51
mhbLure: I thought he does the dialogue only04:51
Luremhb: I just did Suspend/Hibernate buttons for Edgy04:51
mhbI meant the new way of shading the screen when the logout button is clicked ... who did that?04:52
Luremhb: I think it is _StefanS_ from some kde-apps thing04:53
mhboh04:53
mhbLure: thanks04:53
mhbmy mind is mixed up lately04:53
Luremhb: Add kubuntu_88_logout_fade.diff from Stefan Skotte <sfs@enhance-it.dk> based on http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=2065204:54
mhbthanks04:55
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yuriyno konqui in the new shutdown dialog?05:04
mhbyuriy: yes, which signs that Kubuntu is not for kids anymore :o) (Personal opinion, though.)05:06
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yuriyexcept for the "end session" caption05:07
yuriythe new screenshots are nice but i feel like the biggest improvement would be a background image05:07
yuriylike the one from kdm or ksplash05:07
mhbyuriy: yes, but the real development should be focused in KDE4, including the shutdown dialogue (I hope they rework that)05:09
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freeflyingRiddell: have a look at http://www.kdecn.org05:18
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yuriystill no software-properites-kde?06:08
Riddellyuriy: it'll be stuck in binary NEW06:12
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manchicken_Could someone boot miko-chan in #kubuntu?06:23
Riddellmanchicken_: do it06:25
Riddellmanchicken_: and Mavez-San too06:25
RiddellTm_T: kickban Mavez-San too06:26
Tm_Tban? Ok!06:26
Riddellhe did the same thing in #kde-devel a couple days ago06:26
Riddellhe's just trying to be annoying06:26
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Tm_TAlways glad to kickban <306:27
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Lure[08:26]  <Lure> Riddell: can you kick knetworkmanager trough build: https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/29852606:37
Lure[08:27]  <Lure> Riddell: problem is that we need to have networkstatus and networstatus-dev in main06:37
Lure[08:27]  <Lure> Riddell: you mentioned it is "just seed issue" last time, since source (kdepim) is already in main06:37
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_StefanS_Riddell: did you get that patch working ?08:11
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Tm_THeh, Feisty now.09:16
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Simecouldn't get the Feisty installer to do custom partitions.10:31
_StefanS_Riddell: did you get that patch working ?10:32
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DaSkreechNot many kops in #kubuntu I take it?10:36
_StefanS_seems like everyone is busy uploading the last features before freeze... :)10:37
DaSkreechYeah10:39
DaSkreechThere is some joker neams Soul-shadow laughing at everyone who comes in with a problem10:39
DaSkreechand seesm highly influenced to curse when he has a problem10:39
_StefanS_thats crap.. hmm unfortunately i can't ban or kick anyone :(10:39
Tm_TDaSkreech: What?!10:40
DaSkreechYeah I gave him !language and !coc and he put me on ignore10:40
Tm_TDaSkreech: Who?10:40
DaSkreechTm_T: DO A FIND ON HIS NAME AND SCRLL THROUGH ALL THE STUFF HE'S BEEN SAYING10:40
DaSkreechWhoops ;)10:40
Tm_T=)10:41
DaSkreech|Soul^shadow|10:41
gnomefreakis he still an issue?10:41
Tm_TOh him.10:41
Tm_Tgnomefreak: He is now to me, let me try /remove ;)10:41
gnomefreakis he using a java gateway by chance?10:41
Tm_TD'oh.10:42
gnomefreakah i think i ran into him a few tiomes10:42
gnomefreaktimes* i just checked /whois10:43
Tm_Tgnomefreak: How that removing works?10:45
gnomefreakTm_T: i use a script :) /ar nick reason10:45
Tm_TYup, that's not what I asked though I think. ;)10:46
Tm_TCan't find anything from chanserv10:46
gnomefreakTm_T: you can use /kick or /quote remove nick reason (iirc)10:48
gnomefreaki know by default irssi have /k10:48
gnomefreakfor kick10:48
Tm_TWell, remove and kick are different, thanks.10:49
Tm_T(remove is freenode specialty)10:49
Tm_TI'll bother that annoyance when he's back online, making sure he knows what happened.10:50
DaSkreechWhats remove?10:50
Tm_TDaSkreech: Remove person from channel very silently, that means autorejoin etc doesn't get triggered.10:51
DaSkreechTm_T: Near as I can tell he spouts for about 10 minutes then idles for near and hour then comes back and laughs at people asking for help again10:51
DaSkreechTm_T: very nice :)10:51
Tm_TDaSkreech: Yup, I'm there if he will be back in few hours.10:51
Tm_TPing me if I don't notice it.10:52
DaSkreechtoo bad you can't watch for when he says something10:52
Tm_TWhat you mean?10:52
DaSkreechI mean once he says something you get aleerted10:53
DaSkreech have you seen his past history of speech?10:53
Tm_TYes.10:54
Tm_TDaSkreech: I did set notify to my irssi, so I get notified when he's back from idle.10:54
Tm_T23:54 -!- Irssi: |Soul^shadow| [n=soul-sha@adsl-153-122-207.mia.bellsouth.net]  [Sir Quicken]  has joined to IRC10:55
DaSkreechApparently he's at work so .. I'll look to see if he pops back in10:55
DaSkreechI'm on ignore for him so ..10:55
Tm_THe's not.10:55
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Tm_TBah, remove doesn't like me.10:57
DaSkreech:-)10:58
Tm_TOoh, I got private message <210:58
Tm_THe must love me, he wanted me to suck his coc <310:58
DaSkreechhe has his own COC?10:59
DaSkreechMaybe he shoudl read it10:59
Tm_TDaSkreech: gnomefreak: Kubuntu|Slave is his another nick10:59
gnomefreaki do remember him10:59
Tm_THaha, second kb today <311:01
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DaSkreech!tm_Tsnack11:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tm_tsnack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:02
DaSkreech:-)11:02
Tm_TDaSkreech: Oh my, ctcp flood, I don't understand what he thinks he archieve with that.11:06
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Tonio_hi11:24
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mhbhi Tonio_11:25
Tonio__StefanS_: hi ;)11:27
_StefanS_hey :)11:27
Tonio__StefanS_: I wasn't supposed to connect today, but I wanted to get news from you !11:27
_StefanS_Tonio_: its done :)11:27
_StefanS_Tonio_: Sent the diff to Riddel some 4-5 hours ago11:27
Tonio__StefanS_: Riddell uploaded ?11:27
Tonio_great11:27
_StefanS_Tonio_: no he hasn't :(11:27
Tonio__StefanS_: ah ?11:28
_StefanS_Tonio_: starting to get a little anxious here11:28
Tonio__StefanS_: send me this please I'll upload11:28
_StefanS_Tonio_: I only have a diff, if thats ok ?11:28
Tonio__StefanS_: of course11:28
_StefanS_Tonio_: your email ?11:29
Tonio__StefanS_: I'll put a diff in the package so that's exactly what's needed11:29
Tonio_Riddell: any objection if I do it ?11:29
Tonio__StefanS_: tonio@ubuntu.com11:29
_StefanS_there you go11:31
Tonio_thanks :)11:32
_StefanS_its based on kdebase-3.5.6-ubuntu5 so it should apply nicely. I will be online for another half hour just to make sure you dont run into borks.11:34
Tonio__StefanS_: ouch ! hudge patch :)11:34
_StefanS_Tonio_: yessir, sure is ;)11:34
Tonio__StefanS_: I hope it'll no fail to apply due to existing patches :)11:34
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_StefanS_Tonio_: well its made after I did a make -f debian/rules apply-patches11:34
_StefanS_Tonio_: should work.11:35
Tonio__StefanS_: fantastic :)11:35
_StefanS_Tonio_: i'm very optimistic hehe11:35
Tonio__StefanS_: hehe11:35
Tonio__StefanS_: what is your real name (for debian changelog)11:36
_StefanS_Tonio_:  Stefan Skotte11:36
Tonio_thank you11:36
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Tonio_Trying patch debian/patches/kubuntu_89_new_logout.diff at level 1 ... 0 ... 2 ... failure.11:47
Tonio_hehe11:47
_StefanS_argh11:47
_StefanS_can you give me some debug11:47
DaSkreechTm_T: Sore is he?11:48
_StefanS_Tonio_: humm why would it complain when I already have applied the patches to start with ?11:48
Tonio__StefanS_: dunno, I'm cheking11:49
Tm_TDaSkreech: ?11:49
DaSkreechthe ctcp flood11:50
Tm_TYes?11:50
Tm_THe did promised "next time I setup my windows irc war & uber flood ur dumb ass till u keep logging off"11:50
Tm_TI wonder what kind of adsl he got to accomplish that.11:51
_StefanS_Tonio_: ah I might have found a bug11:51
Tonio_ah ?11:52
_StefanS_Tonio_: nope..11:52
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DaSkreechTm_T: Boy I sure hope he gets some balls before he has children11:52
Tm_TDaSkreech: I hope he is still child.11:52
Tonio_Hunk #3 FAILED at 252.11:53
Tonio_1 out of 4 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file ksmserver/shutdowndlg.cpp.rej11:53
Tonio__StefanS_: shouldn't be hard to fix11:53
_StefanS_Tonio_: I have two source trees with kdebase one is with my code, and the other is the standard one. Both are patched with apply-updates11:53
DaSkreechTm_T: Children have Children11:53
_StefanS_Tonio_: whats inside the rejected file ?11:53
Tm_TDaSkreech: Ok, let me rephrase that: I hope he's still under 10 years old.11:54
Tonio__StefanS_: there is no rej file ;)11:54
Tonio_that's the joke :)11:54
nixternalheh, I want to kickban!! :)11:54
Tm_Tnixternal: Kickban me!11:54
_StefanS_Tonio_: err ? - what the heck11:54
Tm_TErr, noooooo11:54
nixternalnevermind that, wrong time, I had scrolled up and and never scrolled back down :)11:54
DaSkreechTm_T: mentally I don't think you have to worry11:54
Tm_TDaSkreech: Oh, that's again not what I mean't.11:55
Tonio__StefanS_: I try to understand11:55
DaSkreechTm_T: I know. I'm trying to console you from your loss due to his ub3r f00di/V11:55
Tm_T:(11:55
DaSkreechTm_T: At least our channel doesn't seem to attract jerks :)11:56
Tm_TDaSkreech: Anyway, I'm ircing from server that does hold ~1250 user's webpages and mails etc etc so his ctcp would not cause much more traffic. ;)11:57
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robertknightRiddell: ping11:58
Tonio__StefanS_: okay works :)11:59
_StefanS_Tonio_: sweeet11:59
_StefanS_Tonio_: was just some small stuff ?12:00
Tonio__StefanS_: I changed the diff headers, looks like the global replacement changed something in the patch12:00
Tonio_dunno what so I'll just rewrite the headers properly12:00
_StefanS_Tonio_: ah, good thing to know.12:00
_StefanS_Tonio_: debpatch seems sensitive I think12:01
Tonio__StefanS_: well cdbs is less sensitive, since it tries level 0 1 and 212:02
_StefanS_Tonio_: ow..12:02
Tonio_but in case people might to use the patch, I like when they just apply to level112:03
Tonio_that's the most common12:03
Tonio_diff -urN kdebase-3.5.6/ksmserver/shutdowndlg.cpp kdebase-3.5.6.new/ksmserver/shutdowndlg.cpp12:03
Tonio_something like this is nicer12:03
_StefanS_yea oka, so you just align the paths12:03
Tonio__StefanS_: yup, but looks like a global replacement changed something in the patch too :)12:04
Tonio_now it's okay I just redid the same, but apprently in a better way ;)12:04
DaSkreechGnight!12:04
_StefanS_Tonio_: hmm12:04
_StefanS_Tonio_: whatever.. ignorance is  bliss hehe12:04
_StefanS_Tonio_: you got it workin', thats good !12:05
Tonio__StefanS_: yup :)12:05
Tonio__StefanS_: I'm just doing a local build test (1 hour) and then I'll upload12:05
_StefanS_Tonio_: ouch one hour :) - what cpu are you on ?12:06
Tonio_pitty to test a kdebase build, but I don't want to take the risk of an ftbfs the day of feature freeze :)12:06
Tonio__StefanS_: athlon xp 3000+12:06
Tonio_well maybe 45 minutes12:06
_StefanS_Tonio_: send me the package, and I'll compile it for you in 10-12 minutes12:06
mhbTonio_: you don't have an hour, do you?12:06
Tonio__StefanS_: hu ??????????12:06
mhbstrange that Riddell is out for the whole evening12:06
Tonio_10 minutes ? what the hell is your config ?12:06
_StefanS_Tonio_: yea just send me the tar.gz of the source, and I'll send the binaries to you12:07
Tonio_mhb: he also is a human beeing appart from beeing a talented informatician :)12:07
_StefanS_Tonio_: T760012:07
Tonio__StefanS_: don't mind, I have to build in a pbuilder chroot12:07
Tonio__StefanS_: that'll take time for to to install, that's okay :)12:07
_StefanS_Tonio_: oh, thought it was easy to move12:07
Tonio__StefanS_: I'm used to build kdebase, kdelibs or kdepim everyday :)12:07
_StefanS_Tonio_: well I starting to get used to it aswell.12:08
Tonio__StefanS_: what is a T7600 ?12:08
_StefanS_Tonio_: 2.33 core2 mobile / 4mb L212:08
_StefanS_Tonio_: couldn't get it any bigger.12:08
Tonio_I didn't knew dual core were that fast... ;)12:08
Tonio_okay let's order that new thinkpad :)12:09
Tonio_time to earn time !!!12:09
_StefanS_Tonio_: Using pipes it does a good job of ulitlizing both cores. I have a Core Duo 1.66ghz cpu lying around if you're interested at some time12:09
Tonio__StefanS_: well I have to buy a new laptop so that's okay, but thanks for proposing ;)12:09
_StefanS_Tonio_: no prob :)12:10
_StefanS_Tonio_: did you ever see the final version of the logout screen ?12:10
Tonio_mhb: maybe he just went to a restaurant with his girlfriend or something12:10
Tonio_mhb: disconnecting from the computer is very important sometimes :)12:10
Tonio__StefanS_: no I'll have the surprise hehe :)12:10
mhbTonio_: true12:11
Tonio__StefanS_: 10-12 minutes in a pbuilder or just loca build ?12:11
_StefanS_Tonio_: well I have a screenshot with most of the buttons: http://enhance-it.dk/test3.png12:11
_StefanS_Tonio_: that was a local build12:11
mhbTonio_: it's good you showed up12:11
Tonio_pbuilder is a bit longuer since it has to install the build environment (build deps etc...12:11
Tonio_loca build is probably about 30 minutes for me12:11
_StefanS_Tonio_: well I have to try pbuilder some day then12:12
Tonio__StefanS_: well pbuilder is important cause it is used on the buildd machines12:12
Tonio__StefanS_: sometimes local compilation works, but pbuilder doesn't12:12
Tonio__StefanS_: how can you check you didn't miss a builddep in the control file ?12:13
Tonio__StefanS_: if it is installed on your computer, no way to test12:13
Tonio_so a chroot/pbuilder is ideal for this12:13
_StefanS_Tonio_: nope, I see the problem. So you start on a clean install per se12:13
Tonio__StefanS_: exactly12:13
mhbhappy feature freeze day (i's past midnight here, UTC+1) ... and I'm heading to bed now12:13
Tonio_but setting up the full environnement takes a bit of time12:14
Tonio_about 5/10 minutes depending the repos activated in the config12:14
Tonio_mhb: seya :)12:14
_StefanS_Tonio_: yea, but I can always get a tutorial someday when this stuff settles :)12:14
_StefanS_mhb: byyee12:14
Tonio__StefanS_: for example at the moment it is still testing the builddeps12:14
Tonio__StefanS_: I use all repos including universe so the deps checking is very long since the database is big12:15
_StefanS_Tonio_: ah I really should try that12:15
_StefanS_Tonio_: would be nice to put the stuff to work :D12:15
Tonio__StefanS_: well the point is that if the build works in pbuilder, it'll work everywhere ;)12:15
Tonio__StefanS_: need a tuto ?12:16
Tonio__StefanS_: that's not very complicated to use12:16
_StefanS_Tonio_: yes12:16
_StefanS_Tonio_: would be nice12:16

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