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[01:53] <yuriy> >:( i have a pc magazine here that has "best free software for 2007" on the cover
[01:58] <yuriy> there's also a "the vista supremacy" article about how vista will succeed by default that doesn't even mention linux
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[08:26] <Lure> Riddell: can you kick knetworkmanager trough build: https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/298526
[08:26] <Lure> Riddell: otherwise we will not get KubuntuLaptopNetwork
[08:27] <Lure> Riddell: problem is that we need to have networkstatus and networstatus-dev in main
[08:27] <Lure> Riddell: you mentioned it is "just seed issue" last time, since source (kdepim) is already in main
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[09:46] <_StefanS_> hi there
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[11:01] <Hobbsee> nixternal: i am
[11:01] <Hobbsee> nixternal: well, sometimes
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[11:23] <paines> hi
[11:23] <paines> I have a problem with feisty, amarok and my ipod. I cannot choose Apple Ipod for the detected devices. any idea what that is ?
[11:27] <Riddell> paines: try updating to 1.4.5-0ubuntu2
[11:27] <Tm_T> :)
[11:27] <Tm_T> Hmm, I start downloading feisty packages I think, time to break system. ;)
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[11:28] <paines> Riddell, okay. thanks man
[11:29] <Tm_T> Hi ltmon
[11:29] <ltmon> Are there any known problems with "/media" since upgrading to kde 3.5.6, particularly in relation to removable USB devices?  Mine won't show up on the desktop or auto-mount, but will in "media:/".
[11:29] <ltmon> Tm_T: hi there
[11:30] <serzholino> ltmon: here it acts exactly like in 3.5.5
[11:30] <serzholino> in edgy
[11:30] <ltmon> yep
[11:31] <ltmon> i was getting kind of flaky results in 3.5.5 - it would stop working after suspend/resume, but not working at all now
[11:31] <ltmon> any ideas for a debugging process?
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[11:43] <Riddell> ltmon: Sime might have ideas?
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[11:43] <ltmon> Sime: ping...?
[11:44] <ltmon> Riddell: I'll post to kubuntu mailing lists tomorrow and see if there are any ideas, thanks anyway
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[12:30] <fritsch> Riddell: is something known about kde356 edgy regression on xorg consuming 100% load after locking the session and waiting for some minutes?
[12:31] <Riddell> fritsch: I've not heard of that
[12:32] <fritsch> oki, so i must fill a bug then, but first i check with nv driver
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[01:15] <_StefanS_> Riddell: how does it work on the debdiff if I have added a few more png's to th ksmserver directory ?
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[01:16] <_StefanS_> Riddell: ping ?
[01:16] <Riddell> oh, you have to do evil things there
[01:17] <Riddell> uuencode and aa that
[01:17] <Riddell> what PNGs have you added?
[01:17] <_StefanS_> Riddell: hibernate, logout, suspend, restart, poweroff
[01:17] <_StefanS_> 5 png's
[01:17] <Riddell> we already have icons for those
[01:17] <_StefanS_> Riddell: they're in th Human, or what ?
[01:18] <Riddell> they're in crystal
[01:18] <_StefanS_> Riddell: err.. where ? :)
[01:18] <Riddell> /usr/share/icons/crystalsvg/48x48/actions/hibernate.png
[01:18] <Riddell> ** edgy amarok testers needed  deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-145/ edgy main
[01:18] <_StefanS_> ah
[01:19] <Riddell> this should be a patch to the normal logout dialogue, which already uses those icons
[01:20] <_StefanS_> Riddell: yep I understand.
[01:21] <_StefanS_> Riddell: how should I reference those ? ksmserver expects icons to be in /usr/share/ksmserver/pics
[01:21] <Riddell> use the normal kiconloader
[01:21] <_StefanS_> Riddell: ah they're accessible by just referring by the name, right ? like hibernate
[01:22] <Riddell> I presume it does so already
[01:22] <_StefanS_> yep
[01:22] <Riddell> yes
[01:22] <_StefanS_> yep yes
[01:22] <_StefanS_> :D
[01:23] <_StefanS_> I going to test them now
[01:26] <_StefanS_> The rest is working btw
[01:32] <Riddell> screenshot screenshot!
[01:33] <Hobbsee> ooh, pretty shiny?
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[01:33] <Hobbsee> oh drat, i cant apply for a holiday for next week, only the week after.  *cries*
[01:34] <_StefanS_> http://enhance-it.dk/screen3.png
[01:34] <_StefanS_> still with the old icons though
[01:35] <Hobbsee> nice!
[01:35] <Hobbsee> then again, "end current session" can be kinda confusing.
[01:36] <_StefanS_> yea tell me about it..
[01:36] <_StefanS_> my wife has asked me alot of times how she should logout
[01:36] <_StefanS_> "end session".. thats really a programmers wording
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[01:37] <_StefanS_> can we change the text?
[01:37] <praetor> _StefanS_: i like it :-)
[01:37] <Riddell> sure
[01:37] <praetor> clean, clear, simple
[01:37] <_StefanS_> praetor: thanks :)
[01:37] <_StefanS_> yep
[01:37] <fritsch> Riddell: [amarok145-edgy] : 120GB music collection succesfully read into mysql db
[01:38] <_StefanS_> even ditched that "end session for user xxx"
[01:38] <Riddell> fritsch: !
[01:38] <praetor> has anyone here used rockbox firmware before?
[01:39] <Riddell> imbrandon: I've updated libmtp and added non-installed files to amarok
[01:39] <Riddell> fritsch: no problems?
[01:39] <fritsch> Riddell: no problem reading in
[01:40] <fritsch> Riddell: now it is playing some songs
[01:40] <Riddell> I'd say if it can handle 120GB of music it's ready for the masses
[01:40] <fritsch> Riddell: i plug in my ipod now, and after that i let it playing with last.fm plugin
[01:42] <_StefanS_> Riddell: to get the right size for the icons, I should use DesktopIcon, right ?
[01:42] <_StefanS_> Riddell: 48x48
[01:44] <Riddell> _StefanS_: yes
[01:44] <_StefanS_> _StefanS_: good, 'cause I couldn't find any matches closer to that :)
[01:46] <fritsch> Riddell: mmh playing, last.fm, ipod was working ... i will report problems, just let it playing now ... this is on AMD64 version
[01:53] <_StefanS_> Riddell: what icon should I use for reboot ?
[01:54] <Riddell> reload is the current one I think
[01:54] <_StefanS_> Riddell: which one is logout ?
[01:55] <_StefanS_> back or something ?
[01:55] <Riddell> undo
[01:57] <_StefanS_> oka
[01:59] <_StefanS_> just put in all the icons, and I'm compiling for the last time ... I hope ;)
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[02:11] <_StefanS_> Riddell: It sort of looks like crap now... http://enhance-it.dk/test1.png
[02:12] <_StefanS_> brb
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[02:16] <_StefanS_> back
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[02:25] <_StefanS_> well the buttons work.. I just restarted my computer by accident
[02:26] <_StefanS_> :)
[02:28] <Riddell> _StefanS_: excellent
[02:28] <_StefanS_> Riddell: http://enhance-it.dk/test2.png this one has the all buttons
[02:28] <Riddell> _StefanS_: it doesn't matter much if the icons look bad, we can get kwwii to make some matching ones
[02:29] <_StefanS_> Riddell: I have removed "computer" from the text, making the buttons more simple to read, will post that in a moment
[02:30] <_StefanS_> Riddell: no point in having "Turn off computer", "hibernate computer", "suspend computer" etc..
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[02:31] <Hobbsee> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/83757
[02:31] <Hobbsee> yep
[02:31] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 83757 in Ubuntu "Dangerous default settings in Kubuntu Installer" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 
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[02:32] <Hobbsee> Riddell: ^
=== Hobbsee would thougth there would be a "are you sure you want to resize this partition?" dialogue though.
[02:33] <_StefanS_> Hobbsee: does it need a confirm box ?
[02:33] <abattoir> doesn't qtparted already have one?
[02:33] <Hobbsee> abattoir: sure, but the "auto partition my drive" doesnt show qtparted to the user, it just does it
[02:33] <abattoir> Hobbsee: aah ok
[02:34] <Hobbsee> _StefanS_: seems so.  i'd be surprised if it doesnt already
[02:34] <_StefanS_> Hobbsee: as the reporter says he just be too old... :)
[02:34] <Hobbsee> heh
[02:34] <Hobbsee> i dont think the installer can be idiot proofed that much
[02:34] <_StefanS_> nope probably not.
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[02:35] <Hobbsee> gah, i definetly should call in sick to work tomorrow.
[02:38] <_StefanS_> I really like that new darken effect when hovering over icons
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[02:52] <_StefanS_> Riddell: 30kb patch coming your way...
[02:52] <_StefanS_> Riddell: See what you think
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[03:00] <_StefanS_> hmm It needs some more spacing though
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[03:04] <mhb> hello everyone
[03:04] <_StefanS_> mhb: hey you.. got a screenshot for you ... another one hehe
[03:04] <_StefanS_> 2secs
[03:05] <_StefanS_> mhb: http://enhance-it.dk/test2.png
[03:05] <_StefanS_> mhb: from that screenshot I have removed all "computer" text, since it was sort of implicit
[03:06] <mhb> _StefanS_: nice
[03:06] <mhb> _StefanS_: and it's aligned, too
[03:06] <_StefanS_> mhb: yes.. its quite amazing :)
[03:06] <mhb> all it needs are a few icons
[03:07] <_StefanS_> remember, my style doesnt have icons.. I will provide you with a screenshot in a moment from a standard kubuntu
[03:07] <mhb> you can clearly see how the "Log out" icon is bad
[03:08] <_StefanS_> mhb: already pointed that out to Riddel, but that is what there is at the moment.
[03:08] <mhb> _StefanS_: I know, those icons were bad before
[03:09] <_StefanS_> mhb: something like the back.png would be better for the logout i think
[03:09] <Hobbsee> _StefanS_: what's the temp thing on your kicker?
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[03:10] <_StefanS_> Hobbsee: kima.. a very cool applet
[03:10] <_StefanS_> Hobbsee: used to be called cpuspeed I think
[03:10] <Hobbsee> ah
[03:10] <Hobbsee> not in repos
[03:10] <_StefanS_> Hobbsee: It should be IMHO..
[03:11] <mhb> kwwii: about?
[03:11] <Riddell> mhb: is grubconfig in svn?
[03:11] <_StefanS_> Hobbsee: another cool one is the simple system monitor, which makes a spinning retangular box that speeds up and down depending on cpu load. Its good at revealing I/O
[03:11] <Hobbsee> nice... :)
[03:11] <mhb> Riddell: did you read yesterday's log?
[03:12] <Hobbsee> _StefanS_: didnt see that one
[03:12] <Riddell> mhb: nope
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[03:12] <mhb> goodnight Hobbsee
[03:12] <_StefanS_> night
[03:12] <Jucato> night Hobbsee
[03:12] <Riddell> mhb: what happened?
[03:13] <Hobbsee> night!
[03:13] <_StefanS_> Riddell: I might have a little addon to that diff you got.. the spacing between the buttons should be wider now that the text is narrower
[03:14] <_StefanS_> Riddell: on line 335: change the factor to 8
[03:15] <mhb> Riddell: okay, I'll recap then ... seele and sebas pointed out that update-grub script actually resets the Ubuntu kernel names, order, etc. ... it even sets the disabled kernels again if you didn't remove them. It would limit the grubconfig's functionality to the extent of it not being useful for users at all (people could only change non-ubuntu related entries and they basically don't need that)
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[03:15] <Riddell> _StefanS_: cool, I'm out to lunch, I'll look at it after
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[03:15] <_StefanS_> Riddell: sure
[03:15] <Riddell> mhb: hmm, ok
[03:16] <mhb> Riddell: so update-grub needs to be improved first, and we can't fix that in this release.
[03:20] <mhb> Riddell: sorry to tell you that
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[03:24] <fritsch> Riddell: sorry, have to fill a bug :-( kde screen lock slowly bring cpu usage up to 100% chvt1 and back restores
[03:28] <fritsch> mmmh no offical kde 3.5.6 launchpad kde entries :-(
[03:32] <kwwii> mhb: yepp
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[04:09] <mhb> kwwii: I wanted to know - since artwork finishes later than features, are you able to change the application binding?
[04:09] <mhb> kwwii: so the app searches for a specific icon ... you can't change that, can you?
[04:10] <kwwii> mhb: nope
[04:10] <mhb> kwwii: oh
[04:10] <kwwii> anything remotely technical is out of the question, i am afraid
[04:10] <mhb> kwwii: because the newest screenshot from _StefanS_ contained binding to standard KDE icons
[04:11] <mhb> kwwii: you know, the "undo" for log out
[04:11] <kwwii> hrm, I guess it would be best to ask Riddell that
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[04:12] <bddebian> Heya
[04:12] <Jucato> hi bddebian
[04:13] <bddebian> Hi Jucato
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[04:16] <_StefanS_> mhb: its easy to change the icon bindings within the code, if thats what you mean
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[04:21] <mhb> _StefanS_: I know
[04:21] <mhb> _StefanS_: but we have to do that before Feature Freeze or it stays
[04:25] <mhb> Riddell: is someone going to repackage polyester today? kwwii noted that someone should have disabled the shaded text in Polyester menus. If you will package that, I can add a little patch that makes the radiobuttons and checkboxes lipstik-like (checks, not black but rather greyish)
[04:25] <zakame> evening all
[04:25] <_StefanS_> mhb: oh, I thought they were to be described as bugfixes
[04:25] <_StefanS_> mhb: sort of ;)
[04:28] <bddebian> Heya zakame
[04:30] <_StefanS_> mhb: here's the screenshot from a standard kubuntu: http://enhance-it.dk/test3.png
[04:31] <_StefanS_> Riddell: I've sent you an updated diff, disregard the previous one.
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[04:41] <mhb> Lure: hi
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[04:50] <Lure> mhb: hi
[04:51] <mhb> Lure: you're responsible for the new shutdown effect?
[04:51] <Lure> mhb: no, I think it is _StefanS_
[04:51] <mhb> Lure: I thought he does the dialogue only
[04:51] <Lure> mhb: I just did Suspend/Hibernate buttons for Edgy
[04:52] <mhb> I meant the new way of shading the screen when the logout button is clicked ... who did that?
[04:53] <Lure> mhb: I think it is _StefanS_ from some kde-apps thing
[04:53] <mhb> oh
[04:53] <mhb> Lure: thanks
[04:53] <mhb> my mind is mixed up lately
[04:54] <Lure> mhb: Add kubuntu_88_logout_fade.diff from Stefan Skotte <sfs@enhance-it.dk> based on http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=20652
[04:55] <mhb> thanks
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[05:04] <yuriy> no konqui in the new shutdown dialog?
[05:06] <mhb> yuriy: yes, which signs that Kubuntu is not for kids anymore :o) (Personal opinion, though.)
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[05:07] <yuriy> except for the "end session" caption
[05:07] <yuriy> the new screenshots are nice but i feel like the biggest improvement would be a background image
[05:07] <yuriy> like the one from kdm or ksplash
[05:09] <mhb> yuriy: yes, but the real development should be focused in KDE4, including the shutdown dialogue (I hope they rework that)
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[05:18] <freeflying> Riddell: have a look at http://www.kdecn.org
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[06:08] <yuriy> still no software-properites-kde?
[06:12] <Riddell> yuriy: it'll be stuck in binary NEW
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[06:23] <manchicken_> Could someone boot miko-chan in #kubuntu?
[06:25] <Riddell> manchicken_: do it
[06:25] <Riddell> manchicken_: and Mavez-San too
[06:26] <Riddell> Tm_T: kickban Mavez-San too
[06:26] <Tm_T> ban? Ok!
[06:26] <Riddell> he did the same thing in #kde-devel a couple days ago
[06:26] <Riddell> he's just trying to be annoying
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[06:27] <Tm_T> Always glad to kickban <3
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[06:37] <Lure> [08:26]  <Lure> Riddell: can you kick knetworkmanager trough build: https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/298526
[06:37] <Lure> [08:27]  <Lure> Riddell: problem is that we need to have networkstatus and networstatus-dev in main
[06:37] <Lure> [08:27]  <Lure> Riddell: you mentioned it is "just seed issue" last time, since source (kdepim) is already in main
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[08:11] <_StefanS_> Riddell: did you get that patch working ?
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[09:16] <Tm_T> Heh, Feisty now.
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[10:31] <Sime> couldn't get the Feisty installer to do custom partitions.
[10:32] <_StefanS_> Riddell: did you get that patch working ?
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[10:36] <DaSkreech> Not many kops in #kubuntu I take it?
[10:37] <_StefanS_> seems like everyone is busy uploading the last features before freeze... :)
[10:39] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[10:39] <DaSkreech> There is some joker neams Soul-shadow laughing at everyone who comes in with a problem
[10:39] <DaSkreech> and seesm highly influenced to curse when he has a problem
[10:39] <_StefanS_> thats crap.. hmm unfortunately i can't ban or kick anyone :(
[10:40] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: What?!
[10:40] <DaSkreech> Yeah I gave him !language and !coc and he put me on ignore
[10:40] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: Who?
[10:40] <DaSkreech> Tm_T: DO A FIND ON HIS NAME AND SCRLL THROUGH ALL THE STUFF HE'S BEEN SAYING
[10:40] <DaSkreech> Whoops ;)
[10:41] <Tm_T> =)
[10:41] <DaSkreech> |Soul^shadow|
[10:41] <gnomefreak> is he still an issue?
[10:41] <Tm_T> Oh him.
[10:41] <Tm_T> gnomefreak: He is now to me, let me try /remove ;)
[10:41] <gnomefreak> is he using a java gateway by chance?
[10:42] <Tm_T> D'oh.
[10:42] <gnomefreak> ah i think i ran into him a few tiomes
[10:43] <gnomefreak> times* i just checked /whois
[10:45] <Tm_T> gnomefreak: How that removing works?
[10:45] <gnomefreak> Tm_T: i use a script :) /ar nick reason
[10:46] <Tm_T> Yup, that's not what I asked though I think. ;)
[10:46] <Tm_T> Can't find anything from chanserv
[10:48] <gnomefreak> Tm_T: you can use /kick or /quote remove nick reason (iirc)
[10:48] <gnomefreak> i know by default irssi have /k
[10:48] <gnomefreak> for kick
[10:49] <Tm_T> Well, remove and kick are different, thanks.
[10:49] <Tm_T> (remove is freenode specialty)
[10:50] <Tm_T> I'll bother that annoyance when he's back online, making sure he knows what happened.
[10:50] <DaSkreech> Whats remove?
[10:51] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: Remove person from channel very silently, that means autorejoin etc doesn't get triggered.
[10:51] <DaSkreech> Tm_T: Near as I can tell he spouts for about 10 minutes then idles for near and hour then comes back and laughs at people asking for help again
[10:51] <DaSkreech> Tm_T: very nice :)
[10:51] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: Yup, I'm there if he will be back in few hours.
[10:52] <Tm_T> Ping me if I don't notice it.
[10:52] <DaSkreech> too bad you can't watch for when he says something
[10:52] <Tm_T> What you mean?
[10:53] <DaSkreech> I mean once he says something you get aleerted
[10:53] <DaSkreech>  have you seen his past history of speech?
[10:54] <Tm_T> Yes.
[10:54] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: I did set notify to my irssi, so I get notified when he's back from idle.
[10:55] <Tm_T> 23:54 -!- Irssi: |Soul^shadow| [n=soul-sha@adsl-153-122-207.mia.bellsouth.net]  [Sir Quicken]  has joined to IRC
[10:55] <DaSkreech> Apparently he's at work so .. I'll look to see if he pops back in
[10:55] <DaSkreech> I'm on ignore for him so ..
[10:55] <Tm_T> He's not.
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[10:57] <Tm_T> Bah, remove doesn't like me.
[10:58] <DaSkreech> :-)
[10:58] <Tm_T> Ooh, I got private message <2
[10:58] <Tm_T> He must love me, he wanted me to suck his coc <3
[10:59] <DaSkreech> he has his own COC?
[10:59] <DaSkreech> Maybe he shoudl read it
[10:59] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: gnomefreak: Kubuntu|Slave is his another nick
[10:59] <gnomefreak> i do remember him
[11:01] <Tm_T> Haha, second kb today <3
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[11:02] <DaSkreech> !tm_Tsnack
[11:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tm_tsnack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:02] <DaSkreech> :-)
[11:06] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: Oh my, ctcp flood, I don't understand what he thinks he archieve with that.
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[11:24] <Tonio_> hi
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[11:25] <mhb> hi Tonio_
[11:27] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: hi ;)
[11:27] <_StefanS_> hey :)
[11:27] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: I wasn't supposed to connect today, but I wanted to get news from you !
[11:27] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: its done :)
[11:27] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: Sent the diff to Riddel some 4-5 hours ago
[11:27] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: Riddell uploaded ?
[11:27] <Tonio_> great
[11:27] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: no he hasn't :(
[11:28] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: ah ?
[11:28] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: starting to get a little anxious here
[11:28] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: send me this please I'll upload
[11:28] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: I only have a diff, if thats ok ?
[11:28] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: of course
[11:29] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: your email ?
[11:29] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: I'll put a diff in the package so that's exactly what's needed
[11:29] <Tonio_> Riddell: any objection if I do it ?
[11:29] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: tonio@ubuntu.com
[11:31] <_StefanS_> there you go
[11:32] <Tonio_> thanks :)
[11:34] <_StefanS_> its based on kdebase-3.5.6-ubuntu5 so it should apply nicely. I will be online for another half hour just to make sure you dont run into borks.
[11:34] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: ouch ! hudge patch :)
[11:34] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: yessir, sure is ;)
[11:34] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: I hope it'll no fail to apply due to existing patches :)
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[11:34] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: well its made after I did a make -f debian/rules apply-patches
[11:35] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: should work.
[11:35] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: fantastic :)
[11:35] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: i'm very optimistic hehe
[11:35] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: hehe
[11:36] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: what is your real name (for debian changelog)
[11:36] <_StefanS_> Tonio_:  Stefan Skotte
[11:36] <Tonio_> thank you
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[11:47] <Tonio_> Trying patch debian/patches/kubuntu_89_new_logout.diff at level 1 ... 0 ... 2 ... failure.
[11:47] <Tonio_> hehe
[11:47] <_StefanS_> argh
[11:47] <_StefanS_> can you give me some debug
[11:48] <DaSkreech> Tm_T: Sore is he?
[11:48] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: humm why would it complain when I already have applied the patches to start with ?
[11:49] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: dunno, I'm cheking
[11:49] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: ?
[11:50] <DaSkreech> the ctcp flood
[11:50] <Tm_T> Yes?
[11:50] <Tm_T> He did promised "next time I setup my windows irc war & uber flood ur dumb ass till u keep logging off"
[11:51] <Tm_T> I wonder what kind of adsl he got to accomplish that.
[11:51] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: ah I might have found a bug
[11:52] <Tonio_> ah ?
[11:52] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: nope..
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[11:52] <DaSkreech> Tm_T: Boy I sure hope he gets some balls before he has children
[11:52] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: I hope he is still child.
[11:53] <Tonio_> Hunk #3 FAILED at 252.
[11:53] <Tonio_> 1 out of 4 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file ksmserver/shutdowndlg.cpp.rej
[11:53] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: shouldn't be hard to fix
[11:53] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: I have two source trees with kdebase one is with my code, and the other is the standard one. Both are patched with apply-updates
[11:53] <DaSkreech> Tm_T: Children have Children
[11:53] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: whats inside the rejected file ?
[11:54] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: Ok, let me rephrase that: I hope he's still under 10 years old.
[11:54] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: there is no rej file ;)
[11:54] <Tonio_> that's the joke :)
[11:54] <nixternal> heh, I want to kickban!! :)
[11:54] <Tm_T> nixternal: Kickban me!
[11:54] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: err ? - what the heck
[11:54] <Tm_T> Err, noooooo
[11:54] <nixternal> nevermind that, wrong time, I had scrolled up and and never scrolled back down :)
[11:54] <DaSkreech> Tm_T: mentally I don't think you have to worry
[11:55] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: Oh, that's again not what I mean't.
[11:55] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: I try to understand
[11:55] <DaSkreech> Tm_T: I know. I'm trying to console you from your loss due to his ub3r f00di/V
[11:55] <Tm_T> :(
[11:56] <DaSkreech> Tm_T: At least our channel doesn't seem to attract jerks :)
[11:57] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: Anyway, I'm ircing from server that does hold ~1250 user's webpages and mails etc etc so his ctcp would not cause much more traffic. ;)
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[11:58] <robertknight> Riddell: ping
[11:59] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: okay works :)
[11:59] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: sweeet
[12:00] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: was just some small stuff ?
[12:00] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: I changed the diff headers, looks like the global replacement changed something in the patch
[12:00] <Tonio_> dunno what so I'll just rewrite the headers properly
[12:00] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: ah, good thing to know.
[12:01] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: debpatch seems sensitive I think
[12:02] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: well cdbs is less sensitive, since it tries level 0 1 and 2
[12:02] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: ow..
[12:03] <Tonio_> but in case people might to use the patch, I like when they just apply to level1
[12:03] <Tonio_> that's the most common
[12:03] <Tonio_> diff -urN kdebase-3.5.6/ksmserver/shutdowndlg.cpp kdebase-3.5.6.new/ksmserver/shutdowndlg.cpp
[12:03] <Tonio_> something like this is nicer
[12:03] <_StefanS_> yea oka, so you just align the paths
[12:04] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: yup, but looks like a global replacement changed something in the patch too :)
[12:04] <Tonio_> now it's okay I just redid the same, but apprently in a better way ;)
[12:04] <DaSkreech> Gnight!
[12:04] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: hmm
[12:04] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: whatever.. ignorance is  bliss hehe
[12:05] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: you got it workin', thats good !
[12:05] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: yup :)
[12:05] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: I'm just doing a local build test (1 hour) and then I'll upload
[12:06] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: ouch one hour :) - what cpu are you on ?
[12:06] <Tonio_> pitty to test a kdebase build, but I don't want to take the risk of an ftbfs the day of feature freeze :)
[12:06] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: athlon xp 3000+
[12:06] <Tonio_> well maybe 45 minutes
[12:06] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: send me the package, and I'll compile it for you in 10-12 minutes
[12:06] <mhb> Tonio_: you don't have an hour, do you?
[12:06] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: hu ??????????
[12:06] <mhb> strange that Riddell is out for the whole evening
[12:06] <Tonio_> 10 minutes ? what the hell is your config ?
[12:07] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: yea just send me the tar.gz of the source, and I'll send the binaries to you
[12:07] <Tonio_> mhb: he also is a human beeing appart from beeing a talented informatician :)
[12:07] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: T7600
[12:07] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: don't mind, I have to build in a pbuilder chroot
[12:07] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: that'll take time for to to install, that's okay :)
[12:07] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: oh, thought it was easy to move
[12:07] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: I'm used to build kdebase, kdelibs or kdepim everyday :)
[12:08] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: well I starting to get used to it aswell.
[12:08] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: what is a T7600 ?
[12:08] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: 2.33 core2 mobile / 4mb L2
[12:08] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: couldn't get it any bigger.
[12:08] <Tonio_> I didn't knew dual core were that fast... ;)
[12:09] <Tonio_> okay let's order that new thinkpad :)
[12:09] <Tonio_> time to earn time !!!
[12:09] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: Using pipes it does a good job of ulitlizing both cores. I have a Core Duo 1.66ghz cpu lying around if you're interested at some time
[12:09] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: well I have to buy a new laptop so that's okay, but thanks for proposing ;)
[12:10] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: no prob :)
[12:10] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: did you ever see the final version of the logout screen ?
[12:10] <Tonio_> mhb: maybe he just went to a restaurant with his girlfriend or something
[12:10] <Tonio_> mhb: disconnecting from the computer is very important sometimes :)
[12:10] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: no I'll have the surprise hehe :)
[12:11] <mhb> Tonio_: true
[12:11] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: 10-12 minutes in a pbuilder or just loca build ?
[12:11] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: well I have a screenshot with most of the buttons: http://enhance-it.dk/test3.png
[12:11] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: that was a local build
[12:11] <mhb> Tonio_: it's good you showed up
[12:11] <Tonio_> pbuilder is a bit longuer since it has to install the build environment (build deps etc...
[12:11] <Tonio_> loca build is probably about 30 minutes for me
[12:12] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: well I have to try pbuilder some day then
[12:12] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: well pbuilder is important cause it is used on the buildd machines
[12:12] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: sometimes local compilation works, but pbuilder doesn't
[12:13] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: how can you check you didn't miss a builddep in the control file ?
[12:13] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: if it is installed on your computer, no way to test
[12:13] <Tonio_> so a chroot/pbuilder is ideal for this
[12:13] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: nope, I see the problem. So you start on a clean install per se
[12:13] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: exactly
[12:13] <mhb> happy feature freeze day (i's past midnight here, UTC+1) ... and I'm heading to bed now
[12:14] <Tonio_> but setting up the full environnement takes a bit of time
[12:14] <Tonio_> about 5/10 minutes depending the repos activated in the config
[12:14] <Tonio_> mhb: seya :)
[12:14] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: yea, but I can always get a tutorial someday when this stuff settles :)
[12:14] <_StefanS_> mhb: byyee
[12:14] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: for example at the moment it is still testing the builddeps
[12:15] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: I use all repos including universe so the deps checking is very long since the database is big
[12:15] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: ah I really should try that
[12:15] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: would be nice to put the stuff to work :D
[12:15] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: well the point is that if the build works in pbuilder, it'll work everywhere ;)
[12:16] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: need a tuto ?
[12:16] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: that's not very complicated to use
[12:16] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: yes
[12:16] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: would be nice