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[01:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83656 in soyuz "'language-package' uploads should not be announced in 'changeslist'" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83656
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[02:19] <mantiena_> hi all
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[02:21] <mantiena> danilos: hi, translations export still doesn't work or I just need to request again (I've requested 3 days ago) ?
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[03:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83674 in soyuz "Search package page is broken in beta" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83674
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[06:50] <Bhaskar> why we are suffering for download po from launchapad, i have trying from 10 days, but not getting success, i have so urgent, why such problem is not solving by technical team of launchpad ????
[06:51] <stub> Bhaskar: The fix is in the process of being rolled out now. Carlos finished the work last night.
[06:51] <Bhaskar> stub, so how much time it will take?
[06:52] <stub> Regression tests are running now. Assuming the tests pass everything should be live in about 1 hour.
[06:53] <Bhaskar> stub, then after 1hr , can i get po?
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[06:53] <stub> I certainly hope so - one of the the fixes claims to fix po exports.
[06:55] <Bhaskar> stub, i hope your team may get success
[07:16] <poolie_> stub, i just got a 500 error (rather than an oops) from launchpad
[07:18] <stub> Bah. The load balancer shouldn't have let that happen. I just took half the servers down for a code update, and I think you much have put in your request before the load balancer noticed.
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[07:28] <stub> Bhaskar: exports should be working again
[07:29] <Bhaskar> stub, ok
[07:42] <Bhaskar> stub, very very thanks, i got po
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[08:59] <carlos> morning
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[09:36] <shawarma> Hm... http://www.ogmaciel.com/?p=321 <--- That blog post shows a new look of Launchpad.. How can I get to see/test it in action?
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[09:39] <mdke> shawarma: I believe the secret is to ask kiko.
[09:44] <carlos> shawarma: it's not yet open to the public, just to a small set of beta testers
[09:44] <carlos> shawarma: you can also ask SteveA if you are interested  (kiko is still sleeping)
[09:44] <shawarma> carlos, mdke: Oh, i thought it was just a matter of knowing a special URL or something.
[09:45] <carlos> not yet
[09:45] <carlos> but will be soon
[09:47] <shawarma> carlos: Wicked.
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[10:26] <mantiena> Hi all
[10:28] <mrevell> mantiena: Hey
[10:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #679 in rosetta "firefox template file" [Medium,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/679
[10:56] <Hobbsee> hey mrevell :)
[10:57] <mrevell> Hobbsee: Hey - how are you?
[10:58] <ajmitch> hi Hobbsee, mrevell 
[10:58] <Hobbsee> mrevell: good, dealing in uni timetables and the like :)
[10:58] <Hobbsee> hey ajmitch 
[10:58] <ajmitch> I see the beta ui is leaked on LP
[10:58] <mrevell> ajmitch: hey
[10:58] <Hobbsee> oh?
[10:58] <mrevell> ajmitch: leaked on LP?
[10:58] <ajmitch> sorry
[10:58] <ajmitch> on planet
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[10:59] <LarstiQ> moin
[10:59] <mrevell> ajmitch: Hmm, haven't check the blogs yet today, I'll have a look
[10:59] <mrevell> LarstiQ: yo
[10:59] <mrevell> oh, okay
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[11:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #40117 in rosetta "products/schooltool says that it doesn't use rosetta, but is open for translation" [High,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/40117
[11:01] <mrevell> Hobbsee: We were aiming to keep the UI private until the public beta.
[11:01] <Hobbsee> mrevell: that's what i would have thought.
[11:02] <mrevell> ajmitch: Thanks for letting me know. It's good to get some interested stirred up in the new UI :)
[11:02] <ajmitch> oh well :)
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[11:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #3190 in rosetta "Last few translations missing" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/3190
[11:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #57460 in rosetta "Add a new translation mode" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/57460
[11:16] <carlos> mantiena: btw, this morning, .po exports were fixed (you asked me to tell you it once it's done)
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[11:31] <mantiena> carlos: thanks, I already noticed ;)
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[11:32] <carlos> mantiena: :-P
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[12:05] <cprov> good morning !
[12:07] <Spads> morning
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[12:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #44808 in rosetta "Some translation templates in dapper don't contain any items" [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/44808
[12:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83736 in malone "Advanced search form should include checkboxes for known tags" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83736
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[12:56] <kiko-anti-geneva> hi there
[12:57] <kiko-anti-geneva> how's wednesday
[12:58] <Hobbsee> almost gone now
[12:58] <kiko-anti-geneva> thank god for that! wednesdays are usually full of bad news
[12:59] <Hobbsee> kiko-anti-geneva: i'm sure thursdays are too.
[12:59] <kiko-anti-geneva> ah, but thursdays are a rest day for me, so I always look forward to them
[01:16] <kiko-anti-geneva> jamesh http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/gaim/main/revision/Arch-1:gaim@products.ubuntu.com%gaim--MAIN--0--patch-13623?start_revid=Arch-1%3Agaim%40products.ubuntu.com%25gaim--MAIN--0--patch-13641#src/gtkdialogs.c
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[01:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83707 in launchpad "attach crash report immediately and automatically (dup-of: 30856)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83707
[01:48] <Hobbsee> kiko-anti-geneva: when will you find a time machine, so i can skip to sunday?
[02:00] <kiko-anti-geneva> working on it
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[02:04] <Hobbsee> kiko-anti-geneva: good.  when's the ETA?
[02:04] <kiko-anti-geneva> anything but RSN.
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[02:05] <Hobbsee> kiko-anti-geneva: damn.
[02:05] <kiko-anti-geneva> Hobbsee, that was a particularly confusing statement.
[02:06] <Hobbsee> kiko-anti-geneva: ah.  check out chick.  "do you want a bag"  "no"  *customer stares at me like an idiot because they didnt get a bag for their items"
[02:06] <Hobbsee> er, s/"/*/
[02:06] <Hobbsee> er, like *i'm* an idiot
[02:06] <ajmitch> such an arduous life you lead
[02:06] <kiko-anti-geneva> don't you charge for bags in .au?
[02:07] <Hobbsee> when i get it for most customers, it's bloody annoying!
[02:07] <Hobbsee> kiko-anti-geneva: not most of them :(
[02:07] <kiko-anti-geneva> how 1960s
[02:07] <Hobbsee> heh.  perhaps i should start, with "hobbsee-bag-tax"
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[02:08] <kiko-anti-geneva> when I was first in ireland I was kind of fucked over by having to buy all those bags because I didn't bring my own
[02:08] <kiko-anti-geneva> then I learned
[02:08] <Hobbsee> wow, really?
[02:09] <Hobbsee> so they dont have plastic bags?  neat
[02:09] <Hobbsee> well, only ones you can buy....
[02:09] <kiko-anti-geneva> right. you need to buy any kind of bag to take stuff home
[02:09] <kiko-anti-geneva> and it's not cheap
[02:09] <kiko-anti-geneva> kind of like 60p
[02:10] <Hobbsee> nice :)
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[02:10] <kiko-anti-geneva> 60p is like 1.5au maybe?
[02:10] <Hobbsee> ouch!
[02:10] <Hobbsee> right
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[02:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83761 in launchpad-support-tracker "Broken +addticket link on DistroRelease context" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83761
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[03:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #39619 in rosetta "Abiword doesn't use rosetta and yet has imported translations" [High,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/39619
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[04:56] <meatballhat> is Launchpad built entirely within Zope?  Is any of it based on Plone?  thanks in advance!
[04:58] <jamesh> meatballhat: Launchpad uses the Zope 3 component architecture
[04:58] <jamesh> but it isn't something that you could plug into an existing Zope site
[05:06] <ddaa> the notion of "plugging launchpad" into something is vaguely amusing...
[05:06] <ddaa> "my electric razor needed power, so I plugged a nuclear power plant into it"
[05:07] <meatballhat> jamesh: thanks for the info :)   ... I'm just starting to poke at Zope and I was curious
[05:08] <ddaa> I think historically launchpad started based on plone or something, hence the look
[05:08] <ddaa> and the portlets
[05:09] <ddaa> but all the ploneness has been actively ripped out
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[05:13] <cyberix> Who sets bug importance and status, when and why?
[05:14] <jamesh> ddaa: the original CSS was from plone
[05:14] <jamesh> ddaa: I don't know if we've ever used any plone code
[05:15] <ddaa> Well, we used limi, that surely qualifies as using a Plone component!
[05:16] <ddaa> cyberix: whoever, whenever, becausever
[05:16] <ddaa> cyberix: maybe ask a more specific question?
[05:18] <cyberix> I'm just wondering, if anyone will proces the bugs I've reported/subscribed
[05:19] <ddaa> depends where you reported the bugs...
[05:19] <cyberix> Ubuntu bugs in Launchpad
[05:20] <ddaa> cyberix: it's not the right place to ask
[05:20] <ddaa> I mean, this channel
[05:20] <cyberix> #ubuntu-dev then?
[05:20] <ddaa> cyberix: probably, yes
[05:21] <ddaa> cyberix: but if you reported any bug about launchpad, I'll be happy to help :)
[05:22] <radix> I wonder if #sourceforge gets lots of people asking about bugs in projects hosted on SF. I guess many have the assumption that "Launchpad the Ubuntu bug tracker", exclusively.
[05:22] <radix> (which I probably held myself some time in ancient history)
[05:22] <ddaa> radix: yes, there's a positioning problem with launchpad
[05:23] <ddaa> but I think most Launchpad folks do a good enough job at being ignorant of Ubuntu stuff to get the point across.
[05:23] <radix> heh, good strategy :)
[05:23] <jamesh> "Launchpad the Launchpad bug tracker"
[05:24] <ddaa> But there's apparently a meme around like "Launchpad = Ubuntu's new bugzilla"
[05:24] <jamesh> ddaa: that probably won't change til we have a few more high profile users
[05:25] <ddaa> I guess...
[05:25] <ddaa> "How do I file a bug on foo"
[05:25] <ddaa> "Go on launchpad"
[05:25] <ddaa> "No, I want to file a bug on foo, not on Ubuntu, I use debian you moron"
[05:26] <ddaa> "Go on launchpad"
[05:26] <jamesh> we'll have Zope on board sooner or later
[05:26] <radix> ddaa: yeah, when Ubuntu "switched from bugzilla to LP", without any context, that sounds like LP is just bug tracker software.
[05:26] <radix> jamesh: oh, really? that'd be awesome. I absolutely hate Collector :)
[05:26] <matsubara> cyberix: #ubuntu-bugs would be more appropriate
[05:27] <ddaa> "You are obviously an evil minion of baby-eating pan-african imperialist, I'm going to tell all of debian-legal about you"
[05:27] <radix> ddaa: man, you are bitter :)
[05:27] <ddaa> Me, I'm not :)
[05:27] <radix> hehe
[05:27] <ddaa> but some debian folks sound like they are, sometimes.
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[05:28] <jamesh> radix: https://bugs.demo.launchpad.net/zope3 is the test import I did
[05:28] <kiko-anti-geneva> hi
[05:28] <kiko-anti-geneva> SteveA where can we move canonical.foaf.nickname?
[05:29] <salgado> kiko, is it used in more than one place?
[05:29] <jamesh> kiko-anti-geneva: yes!
[05:29] <radix> jamesh: cool
[05:29] <jamesh> kiko-anti-geneva: I think that code only has one user -- so you could bung it in database/person.py
[05:30] <flacoste> kiko-anti-geneva: what do you have against geneva?
[05:30] <kiko-anti-geneva> flacoste the geneva convention.
[05:30] <kiko-anti-geneva> but nicks are limited length
[05:30] <Spads> maybe he's on the global antipode of geneva
[05:31] <SteveA> kiko-anti-geneva: that's about generating a Person.name for a given email address? 
[05:31] <kiko-anti-geneva> yeah
[05:31] <SteveA> if so, make it a method on IPersonSet
[05:31] <kiko-anti-geneva> this is non-urgent btw, I am just curious
[05:31] <kiko-anti-geneva> I'm probably not going to actually do it right now
[05:31] <kiko-anti-geneva> Spads: I am in favor of torture in certain situations
[05:32] <kiko-anti-geneva> and this is the second time in six months I consider resorting to it
[05:32] <jamesh> kiko-anti-geneva: you aren't meant to call it torture
[05:32] <kiko-anti-geneva> the first time was when danilos emailed somebody and they reposted the private email to a list
[05:32] <kiko-anti-geneva> today was the second time
[05:32] <flacoste> what's the occasion?
[05:33] <SteveA> kiko-anti-geneva: if you don't do it right now, then either file a bug or add a comment to the source.
[05:33] <kiko-anti-geneva> SteveA: sure. leave it to me.
[05:33] <SteveA> kiko-anti-geneva: otherwise, this conversation was a waste of time for both of us ;-)
[05:33] <kiko-anti-geneva> thanks
[05:34] <kiko-anti-geneva> I like your attitude btw
[05:34] <kiko-anti-geneva> the POP THE TRUNK attitude
[05:34] <SteveA> what's the anti-geneva story, man?
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[05:35] <flacoste> yeah, kiko, who should be "questioned strongly"?
[05:35] <ddaa> flacoste: I think he means torture as punishment
[05:35] <ddaa> not as a way of obtaining information
[05:36] <flacoste> then he should renamed his nick to kiko-anti-human-rights, geneva convention is restricted to the case of captured soliders
[05:37] <kiko-anti-geneva> we are at war my friends
[05:37] <flacoste> i guess i will have to read the IRC log for the story
[05:39] <kiko-anti-geneva> yes some of us are busy killing sqlobject
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[05:40] <salgado> hey flacoste. I heard kiko will tell you the whole story as soon as you review some changes he did while sitting at my desk and committed using my name (https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/pending-reviews/salgado/launchpad/one-zero-gaps/full-diff ;)
[05:40] <carlos> kiko-anti-geneva: is there a plan when that migration will happen?
[05:41] <salgado> flacoste, he said you're the only one that's brave enough to review that
[05:41] <flacoste> salgado: ok, i can review that, should I mail kiko or you with my results?
[05:42] <kiko-anti-geneva> flacoste yes, review that and I will tell you a story about torture
[05:42] <kiko-anti-geneva> >>> p = Person.get(1)
[05:42] <kiko-anti-geneva> >>> p._get_store()
[05:42] <kiko-anti-geneva> <storm.store.Store object at 0x41fa4eac>
[05:42] <salgado> flacoste, me; I don't expect he'll give me any further help with that
[05:42] <kiko-anti-geneva> I have helped that code as much as I cna
[05:42] <flacoste> kiko-anti-geneva: i don't want "a story", I want "the story" ;-)
[05:42] <kiko-anti-geneva> the only person who could make it better would be GOD
[05:43] <kiko-anti-geneva> but he is busy in the middle east
[05:43] <flacoste> salgado: while I'm reviewing yours, can you take a look at my ITicketCollection refactoring: https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/pending-reviews/flacoste/launchpad/refactoring/full-diff
[05:43] <flacoste> salgado: which you've been assigned as formal reviewer btw
[05:44] <salgado> flacoste, I was going for the fix-it-friday first. which one you prefer?
[05:45] <flacoste> salgado: refactoring, i have another branch that depends on it, fix-it-friday waited nearly two weeks, it can wait a few more days ;-)
[05:45] <salgado> and I also have your tt-email-fixes, so you can choose the order you prefer. :)
[05:45] <salgado> fair enough
[05:47] <kiko-anti-geneva> SteveA where can helpers.check_permission() go?
[05:47] <kiko-anti-geneva> webapp.adapter?
[05:47] <SteveA> no
[05:48] <SteveA> webapp.adapter should be webapp.dbadapter
[05:48] <kiko-anti-geneva> SteveA: any other suggestions? webapp.menu is importing helpers which gets me in a loop
[05:48] <SteveA> and check_permission has nothing to do with dbadapter
[05:48] <SteveA> what's it importing from helpers?
[05:48] <SteveA> just this?
[05:48] <kiko-anti-geneva> SteveA yes, just this.
[05:49] <SteveA> what is helpers importing?
[05:49] <SteveA> to make a loop?
[05:49] <kiko-anti-geneva> dbschema
[05:49] <kiko-anti-geneva> and it's hard to fix helpers
[05:49] <SteveA> why should it do that
[05:49] <kiko-anti-geneva> because helpers is the devil's spawn
[05:49] <SteveA> why is helpers importing dbschema?
[05:49] <SteveA> that sounds wrong to me
[05:49] <kiko-anti-geneva> it violates the geneva convention and the warsaw convention in at least 9 instances
[05:49] <SteveA> any generic dbschema helpers should go in dbschema
[05:49] <kiko-anti-geneva> well
[05:50] <kiko-anti-geneva> the reason helpers imports dbschema
[05:50] <SteveA> and any specific onces should be importing specific dbschema entries
[05:50] <kiko-anti-geneva> is because it defines  some crazy functions
[05:50] <kiko-anti-geneva> and module-level dictionaries
[05:50] <kiko-anti-geneva> SteveA: should check_permission not live in webapp you think?
[05:50] <SteveA> I'll answer that in a moment
[05:50] <SteveA> but I want to know why helpers is importing dbschema
[05:51] <kiko-anti-geneva> ok.,
[05:51] <kiko-anti-geneva> SteveA helpers.py:getFileType(), BINARYPACKAGE_EXTENSIONS
[05:51] <SteveA> the appropriate place for check_permission is living in launchpad/webapp/authorization.py
[05:52] <SteveA> getFileType shouldn't be in helpers.py
[05:52] <kiko-anti-geneva> agreed
[05:52] <kiko-anti-geneva> helpers.py should be empty.
[05:52] <SteveA> and helpers.py should not import dbschema
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[05:53] <SteveA> getFileType is used only by gina/hadlers.py
[05:53] <SteveA> so ffs, put it in gina/handlers.py
[05:54] <kiko-anti-geneva> done.
[05:54] <SteveA> you're hot.  let's make out.
[05:54] <kiko-anti-geneva> now?
[05:55] <SteveA> no later. people might see us.
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[05:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83791 in blueprint "The 'Choose' link in the beta blueprint front page is broken" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83791
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[06:01] <bdmurray> I'm trying to use the e-mail interface to Malone and it didn't work the way I expected.
[06:03] <matsubara> bdmurray: could you elaborate on it?
[06:04] <bdmurray> matsubara: I was able to add a comment to the bug but the status change & assignee change did not take effect.
[06:04] <matsubara> bdmurray: did you gpg signed the message?
[06:05] <bdmurray> matsubara: yes
[06:05] <matsubara> bdmurray: which bug?
[06:05] <bdmurray> 82709
[06:07] <matsubara> bdmurray: I can't see the commands in your last comment. Would you send a copy of the email you sent to me? matsubara at canonical dot com?
[06:08] <bdmurray> matsubara: looking at the sent e-mail I don't see the commands so perhaps it is my mail client.
[06:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83794 in launchpad "canonical.foaf.nickname should be a method of IPersonSet" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83794
[06:13] <matsubara> bdmurray: I found an email from you in the lp-error logs but it's related to another bug.
[06:14] <bdmurray> matsubara: I seem to be squared away now.  I modified 82709 sucessfully.
[06:14] <bdmurray> matsubara: What was the error you found about?
[06:14] <matsubara> bdmurray: I mean, the error message I found is about "Signature couldn't be verified" when you tried to modify bug 77125
[06:14] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 77125 in ubiquity "Feisty crashes on install" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77125 - Assigned to Brian Murray (brian-murray)
[06:16] <matsubara> the 'affects /distros/ubuntu/linux-source-2.6.20' is in the same line as the Organization header.
[06:16] <matsubara> bdmurray:  a copy of it: http://librarian.launchpad.net/6324298/hmmhdg7YIAKq6zxWapsIGdQF6RH.txt
[06:18] <bdmurray> matsubara: okay thanks.  is affects the right way to change the source package?
[06:19] <matsubara> bdmurray: not sure as I never used that command (https://help.launchpad.net/UsingMaloneEmail might make things clearer)
[06:19] <bdmurray> matsubara: okay.  Thanks again for the help.
[06:20] <matsubara> bdmurray: you're welcome
[06:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #53652 in rosetta "Manually changing the alt language code in +translate leads to an OOPS" [Low,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/53652
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[06:31] <kiko-anti-geneva> matsubara: bzr+ssh push is really fast with 0.14
[06:31] <kiko-anti-geneva> the progress is good
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[06:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83801 in rosetta "Opening a new distro release to translations should be done with a live system" [Critical,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83801
[06:44] <flacoste> kiko-anti-geneva: I'm ready to hit 'send' on the review, so what about that torture story?
[06:46] <salgado> flacoste, he didn't tell you that the story will only be told if the review includes an r=flacoste. :p
[06:46] <kiko-anti-geneva> flacoste: I can't have private chats here, not registered :-(
[06:47] <flacoste> the excuse!
[06:48] <flacoste> salgado: review sent, there are two changes that I cannot understand: some changes to sampledata and the removal of results from a doctest
[06:48] <flacoste> salgado: if you can make sense of these, I'll happily give you r=flacoste
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[06:50] <salgado> flacoste, cool; the only intentional sampledata changes I did are the ones on Karmacache/karmatotalcache. the other ones seemed to be just our sampledata generation thing removing newlines. I'll reply shortly, anyway
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[06:54] <carlos> see you!
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[07:06] <kiko-anti-geneva> salgado: ping?
[07:06] <kiko-anti-geneva>   File "/home/kiko/devel/trivialities-20070205/lib/canonical/launchpad/database/person.py", line 1208, in topPeople
[07:06] <kiko-anti-geneva>     top_people.sort(key=lambda obj: (obj.karma, obj.id), reverse=True)
[07:06] <kiko-anti-geneva>   File "/home/kiko/devel/trivialities-20070205/lib/canonical/launchpad/database/person.py", line 1208, in <lambda>
[07:06] <kiko-anti-geneva>     top_people.sort(key=lambda obj: (obj.karma, obj.id), reverse=True)
[07:06] <kiko-anti-geneva>   File "/home/kiko/devel/trivialities-20070205/lib/canonical/launchpad/database/person.py", line 625, in karma
[07:06] <kiko-anti-geneva>     cache = KarmaTotalCache.selectOneBy(person=self)
[07:06] <kiko-anti-geneva> salgado: can we make topPeople stop traversing obj.karma?
[07:07] <salgado> it looks like a traceback to me
[07:07] <kiko-anti-geneva> it issues one query per person, which is kinda evil.
[07:07] <kiko-anti-geneva> you should just join in the karma in the first query.
[07:07] <salgado> did I write this code?
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[07:07] <kiko-anti-geneva> maybe not. but you own it. :-P
[07:08] <ddaa> "ya maybe not guilty, but ya're responsible"
[07:09] <salgado> kiko-anti-geneva, I've never seen this code before
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[07:31] <mpt> Gooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!
[07:33] <jelmer> hey mpt 
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[07:35] <LaserJock> hi mpt 
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[07:48] <kiko> salgado, nice :-(
[07:49] <salgado> kiko, I don't think doing that is a problem in this case, since it limits the number of results to 5
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[08:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83828 in soyuz "+last-uploads should be +latest-uploads" [Low,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83828
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[09:03] <kiko-anti-geneva> morbec: claro
[09:03] <kiko-anti-geneva> 19:50 aqui
[09:03] <salgado> kiko, wrong tab
[09:03] <salgado> kiko-anti-geneva, ^
[09:03] <kiko-anti-geneva> I don't know how to use bitchx
[09:08] <kiko-anti-geneva> danilos: any clue why +translate is still not being indexed?
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[09:09] <danilos> kiko-anti-geneva: no clue, maybe we should try with Google sitemaps as well? (though, that's going to be a job in itself)
[09:10] <kiko-anti-geneva> danilos: I don't know how sitemaps works.
[09:10] <kiko-anti-geneva> danilos: can we tell it to start indexing everything? :-)
[09:10] <mpt> kiko, have you tried yourself to get to the translation page while logged out?
[09:10] <danilos> kiko-anti-geneva: it probably does, but that may take anything from 1 to 6 months :)
[09:10] <kiko-anti-geneva> mpt yes. it works.
[09:11] <kiko-anti-geneva> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/dapper/+source/launchpad-integration/+pots/launchpad-integration/af/+translate
[09:12] <mpt> kiko, by "get to" I mean navigate from https://launchpad.net/
[09:13] <danilos> kiko-anti-geneva: it actually seems to index them
[09:14] <danilos> kiko-anti-geneva: try searching for "site:translations.launchpad.net gegl"
[09:14] <danilos> kiko-anti-geneva: in 4-5 places, I see Ukrainian and zh_TW translations
[09:15] <danilos> inside Dapper, so it's probably about page ranking (i.e. seldomly linked pages are not indexed or searched)
[09:16] <mpt> "You are browsing gnome-desktop into Ukrainian"
[09:16] <mpt> Ah, the power of browsing
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[09:17] <kiko-anti-geneva> danilos: can you fix that? :)
[09:17] <kiko-anti-geneva> it should say
[09:17] <kiko-anti-geneva> you are browsing gnome-desktop in Ukranian
[09:17] <kiko-anti-geneva> that's the simplest change
[09:17] <kiko-anti-geneva> jamesh: https://sodium.ubuntu.com/~andrew/paste/filedXnCtK.html
[09:18] <ddaa> Hu... what about "gnome-desktop in Ukranian"... users know they are browsing...
[09:18] <danilos> kiko-anti-geneva: I can't fix my blog to get onto Google, but sure I can fix that "into" :)
[09:18] <kiko-anti-geneva> danilos: heh
[09:19] <mpt> danilos, "You are translating" -> "Translations for"
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[09:20] <mpt> err, what am I talking about
[09:21] <mpt> "Translations of" "gnome-desktop into Ukrainian"
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[09:22] <danilos> mpt: ? you want me to replace 'You are translating' as well (the one shown when someone is logged in)?
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[09:24] <danilos> I'll just fix the 'into'/'in' bug, file bugs for anything else :)
[09:24] <jwendell> hi, LP guys.
[09:25] <LarstiQ> hi jwendell
[09:25] <jwendell> any idea why i'm subscribed to bug 82956?
[09:25] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 82956 in slab "gnome-main-menu only retains 6 favorite applications" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82956
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[09:29] <matsubara> jwendell: because you're the registrant of the gnome-main-menu product
[09:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83846 in launchpad-support-tracker "Comments are not threaded under the original notification" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83846
[09:36] <jwendell> matsubara, thanks. i just changed the 'owner'
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[09:41] <kiko-anti-geneva> jwendell: you can reassign it to "registry" if you like.
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[09:41] <jwendell> kiko-anti-geneva, i guess i can't do it anymore. i've changed the 'onwer' to desktop-bugs...
[09:41] <kiko-anti-geneva> jwendell: I think that's actually bad, so let me fix that.
[09:42] <jwendell> kiko-anti-geneva, thanks
[09:48] <kiko-anti-geneva> fixed jwendell 
[09:48] <jwendell> kiko-anti-geneva, thanks
[09:49] <kiko-anti-geneva> jwendell: no estou registrado :-(
[09:50] <jwendell> kiko-anti-geneva, no entendi
[09:50] <kiko-anti-geneva> o /msg no funciona se no estou registrado
[09:50] <kiko-anti-geneva> jwendell: /j #async
[09:55] <LaserJock> kiko-anti-geneva: any word on bug #79671 ? what does the fix-it-friday tag actually do?
[09:55] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 79671 in malone "Allow +filebug?tag=... URLs for pre-setting tags" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/79671
[09:56] <kiko-anti-geneva> LaserJock it makes the bug considered for f-i-f
[09:56] <kiko-anti-geneva> not necessarily that it will happen 
[09:56] <LaserJock> so a "we'll think about it" ? ;-)
[09:58] <kiko-anti-geneva> LaserJock: it means there's a strong chance it'll go into A friday, but not always this friday
[09:58] <kiko-anti-geneva> the reason it's not done is that I'm very busy these weeks
[09:59] <kiko-anti-geneva> otherwise it would have been
[09:59] <kiko-anti-geneva> you can ping BjornT who unlike me isn't sprinting
[09:59] <LaserJock> k, np. I just wondered how the f-i-f workflow worked
[10:19] <LaserJock> does beta run on similar hardware to the current LP?
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[10:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #83866 in launchpad "text input box is too small in 1.0 bug filing UI" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83866
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[11:00] <mdke> where does one see changelogs in LP?
[11:00] <mdke> ah, under build
[11:00] <mdke> my bad
[11:01] <mdke> probably they should be available from the source package page
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[11:20] <ddaa> jml: hello
[11:21] <jml> hi
[11:21] <ddaa> how's coffee this morning?
[11:23] <jml> ddaa: not strong enough
[11:23] <jml> and I think the guy who made it overheated the milk
[11:24] <ddaa> ha, you drink this .au "white coffee"?
[11:24] <jml> ddaa: cafe latte. 
[11:25] <jml> ddaa: in the mornings, and then espresso afterwards.
[11:25] <ddaa> I see you share the same coffee habit as thumper and I :)
[11:26] <jml> ddaa: glad to hear it :)
[11:26] <ddaa> That's good, so we can have virtual coffee machine chats :)
[11:26] <jml> heh heh
[11:26] <ddaa> for a minute I feared I would have watercooler chats with you :)
[11:26] <jml> perhaps I should come and visit -- I hear they have good cafes in Paris :)
[11:27] <ddaa> Sure, but you'd need to come in May to have the real Paris cafe experience.
[11:27] <ddaa> before, it's too cold to have a coffee on the terrace
[11:28] <jml> ddaa: oh yeah. that crazy northern hemisphere.
[11:30] <ddaa> hey, with a fancy you could regard the plane trees as shedding their bark, like your crazy .au trees
[11:30] <ddaa> besides _we_ do not walk upside down
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[11:31] <ddaa> jml: how's work going?
[11:32] <ddaa> mh... s/plane trees/sycamores/
[11:32] <jml> ddaa: alright. I'm feeling the lack of a fast linux-friendly machine.
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[11:33] <jml> ddaa: I was wondering what a plane tree was :)
[11:35] <ddaa> jml: here, the branch-puller splitting is going well, I expect to have it up for review tonight before going to bed
[11:36] <jml> ddaa: cool
[11:36] <jml> ddaa: also, you work strange hours.
[11:36] <ddaa> some people work stranger hours
[11:36] <jml> ddaa: in Australia, all the hours are upside down
[11:37] <ddaa> yeah... just thinking that you could disprove the cat theorem
[11:38] <ddaa> take a .au cat on the northern hemisphere, and it will probably be confused and fall on its back :)
[11:38] <jml> ddaa: I know just enough for that to make my brain hurt _really_ badly.
[11:38] <jml> ddaa: oh, I thought you were talking about Schroedinger's Cat
[11:39] <ddaa> oh... I do not believe in Shroedinger's cat
[11:39] <ddaa> quantum mechanics are just fancy mathematical model that happens to have interesting explanatory properties
[11:39] <ddaa> but I do believe it actually bears any resemblance to reality
[11:40] <ddaa> s/do/do not/
[11:40] <jml> well, you see, that's about where my physics knowledge ends :)
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[11:41] <ddaa> just enough to be convinced this model is too kludgy to be true
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[12:13] <moreati> Hi. When adding a comment/patch to a bug report, is there a syntax for autolinking to other bugs? Or should I instead paste the full URL?
[12:18] <ddaa> "bug 1234" will generate a hyperlink in a comment
[12:18] <Ubugtu> Bug 1234 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/1234 is private