[12:15] <_Enchained> uploading... [12:20] <_Enchained> bddebian: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4275 :) [12:20] _Enchained: OK === torkel_ [n=torkel@69-188.umenet.t3.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pochu [n=pochu@179.Red-88-7-169.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tsmithe` [n=tsmithe@82-70-109-22.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lfittl [n=lfittl@213.129.230.10] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fowlduck [n=nate@h69-128-106-154.69-128.unk.tds.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fernando [n=fernando@189.0.140.254] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:10] * I need to solicit more testing of qpsmtpd fix in dapper https://launchpad.net/bugs/78005 ** ;-) [01:10] Malone bug 78005 in qpsmtpd "[SRU] request: dapper:qpsmtpd fix for bug #72602" [Undecided,Fix committed] [01:11] you'll need to find people that use it then [01:11] * I need to solicit more testing of qpsmtpd fix in edgy https://launchpad.net/bugs/77485 ** ;-) [01:11] Malone bug 77485 in qpsmtpd "[SRU] request: edgy:qpsmtpd fix for bug #72602" [Undecided,Fix committed] [01:11] ajmitch: hehehehe [01:12] ajmitch: theres me... and theres Sheer... bah [01:12] ajmitch: o well cant win everything ;-) === Plow [n=plow@85.99.136.209] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:27] cool. -security updates will be showing up in the -changes lists soon. :) === Plow [n=plow@85.99.136.209] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [01:28] scary :-P [01:28] is that a feature or a bug? :-) [01:28] more like expected behaviour [01:28] well, it was intended as a feature, but evolved into a bug, I guess. [01:29] I would expect them to be hidden as long as possible. or atleast until the USN :-) [01:31] seems like I don't need to write the motu-swat report then :) [01:31] sistpoty: :-P === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:35] Fujitsu: ! :-D [01:35] Hi Nafallo. === freeflying [i=flyingfr@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu would have reenabled mp3lib if it had been noted in debian/changelog that it was disabled because it was dodgy in that version. [01:39] Fujitsu: :-) === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rexbron [n=rexbron@complex1-372-008.resnet.yorku.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RedKrieg [n=RedKrieg@ip68-230-209-186.rd.hr.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rrittenhouse [n=tad@unaffiliated/rrittenhouse] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lukaswayne9 [n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ademan [n=dan@75.44.225.150] has joined #ubuntu-motu === segfault [i=segfault@core-dumped.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-79-61.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:26] hello Hobbsee [02:27] hey ajmitch [02:28] any one up for a review, check out upid 4276 [02:34] rexbron: give me 10 minutes, then I'll take a look [02:35] rexbron: I'm working on stuff, which package? [02:37] bddebian: soma [02:37] sistpoty: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4271 [02:37] bddebian: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4271 [02:37] :-) [02:42] OK, let me get the kids to bed [02:42] Wait a minute, soma, wtf?? :-) [02:42] bddebian: ?!? [02:44] rexbron: I thought we were done with that one? :-) [02:44] bddebian: if you take pictures of them I'll wait :-) [02:44] bddebian: Murrine [02:44] bddebian: soma is still in the works === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:07] Nafallo: pictures? [03:08] bddebian: or photos. whichever :-P [03:10] Uhm, they are 7,5, and 3, what type of photos were you thinking of? [03:11] just wanted to see them :-) [03:11] Ah, OK :-) [03:20] rexbron: is soma only i386 specific? [03:20] I have not tested it with anything else [03:21] sistpoty: I do not know, I would not think so (even though I have it as i386), but am unable to test it [03:21] sistpoty: I will contact upstream for more info [03:22] I'll do a test-compile on amd64... (don't have a i386 pbuilder at hand, and am too lazy to build in a chroot right now *g*) [03:22] rexbron: there are two Makefile's in the diff... seems like you should clean these [03:23] sistpoty: I am unclear why the make files are different, might have built it and forgot to clean. Sugested course of action? [03:23] other than make clean? [03:24] rexbron: maybe you could look if make clean actually cleans these... [03:24] thanks bddebian *hug* [03:26] now I just need sistpotys +1 aswell ;-) [03:26] Nafallo: you're next in the queue after soma ;) [03:26] sistpoty: I know :-) [03:26] rexbron: at least it *builds* fine on amd64 [03:26] sistpoty: ffmpeg is not being used, it is building against the ubuntu binaries. The other makefile, I am not sure, I will diff the two and see if there are any real changes [03:26] sistpoty: === ademan [n=dan@h-67-101-215-128.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:27] sistpoty: then do the packages get the all architechture [03:27] or just i386, amd64 and ppc [03:27] rexbron: make 'em any please [03:27] sure [03:27] (all means not arch-specific) [03:30] sistpoty: I will upload a new version [03:30] bddebian: I will need you to look at soma again soon [03:30] rexbron: please wait a minute, there are some more issues [03:30] oh ok [03:30] Gah, why do I bother reviewing? :-( [03:30] rexbron: if you don't need the shipped ffmpeg, please remove it from the orig-tarball and add a dfsg1 to the upstream version. Otherwise soma would quite certainly get demoted to universe [03:31] demoted to multiverse even [03:31] Nafallo: Don't get too excited, sistpoty will find all the shit I missed :-) [03:31] (and I guess archive admins don't like to review ffmpeg due to patent issues *g*) [03:31] sistpoty: then the ffmpeg in debian copyright would be removed aswell [03:31] rexbron: sure [03:32] anything else? [03:32] sistpoty: ^ [03:32] rexbron: give me a minute please... I'm still looking ;) [03:32] bddebian: hopefully :-) [03:34] sistpoty: so the version would be soma_0.41-dfsg1ubuntu1? Even though it is not in debian? [03:34] sistpoty: or _0.410+dfsg1ubuntu1 [03:34] sistpoty: or _0.41-0+dfsg1ubuntu1 rather [03:35] rexbron: s.th. like 0.41.dfsg1-1ubuntu1 [03:35] ok [03:35] rexbron: as the dfsg-part should be part of the upstream version (and thus before the minus) [03:35] sistpoty: . or + between upstream and dfsg? [03:36] rexbron: whatever you prefer ;) [03:36] ok [03:36] rexbron: however not 0.41 ;) [03:36] opps, thats Murrine [03:36] *g* [03:36] differnt source package [03:38] rexbron: what are soma-check and soma-config for? for server-configuration? === lfittl [n=lfittl@213.129.230.10] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:41] sistpoty: I think so, that is the decription in control is what is given on the soma site [03:41] actually, that is just for the first couple === pochu [n=pochu@179.Red-88-7-169.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:41] sistpoty: they check the config files and allow other soma programs to configure the server, I believe [03:42] rexbron: please include these in the somad package, as these are really very small packages (and otherwise would bloat the packages file) [03:43] I can merge them into the somad.install file [03:43] rexbron: and maybe the client might suggest the server? (not sure if that makes sense though, so I'll leave that to you) [03:44] the client is the command line interface to the server, so it maybe should depend? [03:44] or recommends, as they are installed by default === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:45] rexbron: so I'd pretty much need the client to use the server? [03:45] I think so [03:46] its the interface to the server daemon [03:46] sistpoty: ^ [03:46] rexbron: then I'd say to simply include this one in the somad package... if it doesn't make much sense to have the server without the "client" [03:47] (actually I've guessed that client means s.th. different here...) === bddebian bows his head in shame [03:48] ok I think that would work, should the binary package be renamed then to just soma, or maybe soma-server (as there is a soma-player) [03:48] bddebian: why? [03:49] rexbron: not quite sure... moment please [03:49] Because I suck [03:49] bddebian: no, you don't :P [03:49] sistpoty: Sure I do, ask ajmitch :-) [03:50] hrhr [03:50] rexbron: actually choose what name you prefer... both make sense to me === aSt3raL_ [n=eric@71-35-121-20.tukw.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:50] I am going with server for consistency [03:50] ok [03:51] sistpoty: anything more that you can see? [03:51] rexbron: nope... others than that the package is really lovely [03:51] yay === rexbron goes to fix fix fix [03:52] hello [03:52] sistpoty: Would you be able to examine it again in about 1/2h? [03:52] what do you guys need help with? [03:52] rexbron: not quite sure if I'm still up then... in case I'm asleep already I'll promise to look at it tomorrow though [03:53] ive been using ubuntu for a couple years and am interested in helping [03:54] aSt3raL_: we need help with everything... from triaging bugs, to making new packages to getting our documentation in a better shape === sistpoty searches the link to the contribute page === asantoni [n=alb@bas7-london14-1177945780.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:55] aSt3raL_: have you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu yet? [03:55] i have not [03:56] aSt3raL_: please do... it should give you a first overview ;) [03:57] Nafallo: please don't exceed 80 chars in debian/copyright... this is really hard to read ;) [03:59] Nafallo: the descriptions/extended descriptions could be a little bit more verbose... what will I get from the different wave-look packages? usplash-images? wallpapers? sounds? anything else? [04:00] sistpoty: doesn't the short description say? :-) [04:01] Nafallo: well, it could be more verbose ;) [04:01] and the packagenames are straightforward aswell :-) [04:01] IMO :-) [04:03] Nafallo: I guess the average user wouldn't figure that splashes are bootup screen splashes [04:03] Nafallo: but that's not a showstopper for me ;) [04:04] hehe, the package is actually a fork from the other artwork packages, so I'll just blame dholbach anyway :-) === fowlduck [n=nate@24-183-45-79.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nafallo reformats debian/copyright [04:06] sistpoty: is it +1 without extra review with the reformat I'm making? or do you see something else? :-) [04:06] Nafallo: actually I'd like to see it as either a native package or bug upstream to remove the debian-dir ;) [04:06] :P [04:07] dooh [04:07] I know I forgot something ;-) [04:07] Nafallo: gives a PITA if someone wants actually remove a file from the debian-dir otherwise [04:07] the upstream packager will fix that before he uploads it to the archive :-) [04:07] ;-) [04:08] Nafallo: ok, then take this +1 and use it once you have fixed the issues ;) [04:08] sistpoty: thanks dude *hugs* [04:08] Nafallo: thanks for your contribution ;) [04:09] *grins* === segfault [i=segfault@core-dumped.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian goes back to his hole === Fujitsu sends the dogs down the hole. [04:14] sistpoty: should the modified tarball have the dfsg versioning aswell? [04:14] rexbron: yes, it should... because it's not the original tarball but something different [04:14] ok cool [04:15] (that's the reason I wanted the dfsg to be part of the upstream version) [04:15] I see === sistpoty is out for a cigarette [04:22] ok, I'm off to bed now [04:22] gn8 everyone [04:22] sistpoty: gnight [04:26] man, gotta love spam warning about spam/viruses/spybots [04:28] LaserJock: heh === musiclvr [n=do@adsl-68-249-4-102.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === musiclvr [n=do@adsl-68-249-4-102.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === musiclvr [n=dodya@adsl-68-249-4-102.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === musiclvr [n=dodya@adsl-68-249-4-102.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [04:46] LaserJock: Would you be able to do a review? upid 4279 [04:50] rexbron: I am doing a test build now. There is something I want to make sure of before saying anything, as I haven't had much to do with cdbs previously. [04:51] TheMuso: cool === TheMuso waits for packages to be fetched. [05:09] TheMuso: how goes it? [05:10] its built, but I'm just checking something first [05:10] ok no what I was looking for seems to be taken care of by cdbs. [05:11] rexbron: What are you worried about re changelog? [05:11] And there is a dfsg in the changelog entry. What was removed? [05:11] too many entries [05:11] TheMuso: ffmpeg [05:11] TheMuso: it is using ubuntu binaries [05:11] TheMuso: Should the dfsg change be listed? === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:12] In the new entry, it is probably worth stating that ffmpeg was removed, and the Ubuntu binaries used. Other MOTUs may be able to ffer comment on that however. [05:15] TheMuso: Found anything else? [05:15] But having two entries is fine, as they are for different releases. [05:16] rexbron: Looking again. Was just checking that the later version was greater than the former in the changelog. [05:16] hmm? [05:16] dpkg has a command that allows you to compare whether one version number is greater than another. [05:17] ok [05:18] I don't understand why your copyright file is layed out as it is. I'd rather leave those more experienced with licensing to confirm that. [05:19] TheMuso: LaserJock directed me to do it like that [05:19] so I will run it by him to make sure is it up to snuff [05:20] but you are suposed to list the licence and copyright of everyfile that is distributed in the source package [05:21] rexbron: I know that. [05:21] Most other copyright files I've seen have been simpler than that, thats all. [05:21] what did I do? [05:21] LaserJock: just the debian/copyright file for Soma [05:22] Shouldn't the libsoma-dev be in section libdevel? [05:22] at sisypot's direction, ffmpeg was removed from the upstream tar ball and dfsg versioning was added [05:22] TheMuso: was not sure, [05:22] you would know better than I [05:22] hmm maybe not [05:23] it is the devel files for a lib, but the source package is for a program [05:23] if that makes a difference [05:23] I don't think it matters. [05:23] LaserJock: what is your take on the above? [05:23] I have just looked at two other packages. One has libdevel, one has devel. [05:25] SO I don't *think* it matters. === TheMuso goes to check policy. [05:28] I haven't looked very hard, but libdevel is a valid section so I dunno. [05:28] Other packages use it, so it shouldn't be a problem [05:29] rexbron: Any reason for the binary/clean target in debian/rules? [05:29] so it should not be a problem either way> [05:30] No. [05:30] TheMuso: sometimes config.log does not get removed, and that can gum up the build [05:30] but if it is in pbuilder, should be unnessicary now [05:30] According to the rules file, its config.status you are removing. [05:30] .. [05:30] that is old [05:31] need to fix that [05:31] Why aren't you building the python stuff? [05:32] really buggy build process [05:32] How so? [05:32] like to try and install itself on the system instead of following any prefixes [05:32] same with phpsoma [05:33] I have contacted upstream about it and it is getting fixed in the next major release [05:34] TheMuso: ok, the binary rules is fixed, and so is libsoma-dev's section [05:34] build and clean are required rules [05:34] LaserJock: cdbs [05:34] LaserJock: Cdbs takes care of those I thought [05:35] ah, it's cdbs [05:35] my bad [05:35] np [05:36] rexbron: The section for the dev package doesn't have to be libdevel as far as I have seen from other apckages. [05:37] is there any reason not to? [05:37] ( as I will need to reupload any way [05:38] Well some major libraries for the syste are libdevel, so I guess its a good idea to use it. === TheMuso just checked libc6-dev and libgnomeui-dev to see what they had,. [05:39] if there is an issue, it will be fixed [05:40] Well you changed to libdevel so I think you're safe. [05:40] ooo storm coming. [05:40] :0 [05:40] TheMuso: [05:41] TheMuso: So if I re-upload, and the debdiff is good, is there a stamp of approval? [05:42] Re-upload and I'll have a look at the differences. === brainsik [n=brainsik@adsl-75-52-253-93.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === brainsik [n=brainsik@adsl-75-52-253-93.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:47] TheMuso: I need sleep, the upload is done [05:48] so if there are issues, just leave a nice comment [05:49] rexbron: SUre. === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-74.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rexbron [n=rexbron@complex1-372-008.resnet.yorku.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AstralJava [n=jaska@cm-087-94-053-172.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:20] is there still no website for falcon? === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:02] Bah! I am not finding revu very intuative. I've managed to place comments on the wrong date every bloody time! [07:04] SOrry those on the revu ml. I'll know better for next time. grrr :S === mayday_jay [n=mayday_j@maydayjay.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RAOF [n=Chris_@matht464.maths.unsw.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-011-103.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob [i=rob@freenode/staff/rob] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zic_ [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robb_ [n=robb@pool-71-163-244-36.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:58] <\sh> moins [08:02] <\sh> geser: ping xmms2 again, do you think debian/rules should execute scons in clean target? === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lathiat [n=lathiat@ubuntu/member/pdpc.basic.lathiat] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:22] good afternoon MOTUs [08:23] Hey zakame. [08:23] hello TheMuso [08:24] <\sh> hey zakame [08:24] hello \sh! === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robb_ [n=robb@pool-71-163-244-36.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:36] <\sh> moins raphink [08:37] hi \sh :) [08:37] how are you doing today \sh ? [08:42] <\sh> raphink: well, I was early in the office...and right now, I'm fighting against tickets and broken hardware :( [08:42] <\sh> and until now no coffee [08:53] :( [08:53] I'm going to have another day fighting with backports here ;) [08:53] but thanks to buildd, it won't be that long :) === Solarion [n=solarion@cruftix.physics.uiowa.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dous [n=dous@209.190.9.168] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-bcd829facc36d8bf] has joined #ubuntu-motu === segfault [i=segfault@core-dumped.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ctd [i=ctd@incubus.progsoc.uts.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-42-226.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:58] hi phanatic [09:58] morning raphink [09:58] :) [09:59] what's up? === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F757D6.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:01] yo raphink phanatic dholbach [10:01] what are you guys down with? :) [10:01] hi dholbach zakame [10:01] good morning [10:01] hey zakame === raphink shakes hands all around [10:01] hey raphink [10:01] hey zakame and dholbach [10:02] hi dholbach, everyone [10:02] yo ajmitch [10:02] hey zakame [10:02] raphink: just got back from the bazaar sprint in amsterdam :) [10:02] oh really? [10:02] I didn't know about this one :) [10:02] I was in A'dam 2 days ago :) [10:02] got back on Sunday evening [10:02] hey ajmitch [10:03] hi ajmitch :) [10:04] raphink: heh, i got back on Monday evening... funny :) [10:04] yes :) [10:04] I almost got back on Monday [10:04] but I thought it would be better to keep my vacation for later :) [10:05] :) [10:05] i also have to work now, and university starts next week [10:06] ok [10:08] i just dist-upgraded to feisty... had long time without development versions :) [10:09] hehe === RAOF [n=chris@202.63.35.99] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@dsl-hkigw8-feb6fb00-217.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RAOF [n=chris@202.63.35.99] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:21] Is anyone around to review http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4132 ? [10:21] I'm not the uploader, but I'd really like to get that into Feisty, if at all possible. [10:22] I should have a REVU account. Can I help? [10:23] you sure can help [10:23] you can review the package and send me the comments [10:23] I'll publish them === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:41] didn't somebody have a pimped, updated html version of 'apt-cache -i unmet' somewhere? [10:42] it should be linked from from MOTUTodo === davromaniak [n=cyril@AFontenayssB-152-1-13-93.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:45] dholbach: i thought the people submitted bugs for that [10:45] oh, hm === ajmitch was going to do a pimped up version [10:49] maybe i could hack bughelper to find if a certain bug has already been filed [10:49] that way we could automate the process of filing bugs === dholbach will think about it === herzi [n=herzi@p548FDA3A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch wonders why his sound is completely broken this evening === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xerxas [n=r67894@AGrenoble-257-1-156-225.w83-201.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === segfault_ [i=segfault@core-dumped.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fowlduck [n=nate@24-183-45-79.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === givr1 [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-14-4.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-553ac72ce9434c82] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cyberixae [i=twruottu@myntti.helsinki.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:52] Does the requested packages go trought some proces? [11:52] Or do they just sit on the wiki? [11:58] cyberixae: they sit on the wiki until someone looks at it, thinks it looks interesting, and packages it. [12:03] hm, that could be why sound is going nuts [12:03] fan warning when I went to reboot.. [12:07] curses, dead fan on the motherboard [12:07] heh [12:07] oh dear [12:07] yeah, well [12:07] ajmitch: On the north bridge? [12:07] May need a good clean. === ajmitch shrugs [12:07] probably [12:08] Most north bridges don't run hot enough for a fan. [12:08] ajmitch: just replace it with a passive heatsink ;) [12:08] There are exceptions. :-) [12:09] hm, I think it could be the southbridge [12:09] it's an amd64 anyway [12:10] The {north,south}bridge on my amd64 is passively cooled. [12:10] well it was causing enough problems with sound :) [12:10] Then again, it's a *tiny* SFF case with an enormous CPU fan and good air flow. :-) [12:10] yeah, this is a fulltower case [12:10] and it's fairly warm in here at the moment [12:11] Heh === ajmitch is just on the laptop === StevenK loves the quiet fan [12:11] I was wondering, the motherboard temperature was slightly higher than usual === ajmitch has sensors-applet on the panel now, using hddtemp === StevenK hasn't bothered with temperature sensing. [12:12] I was curious === ajmitch goes to boot it & see if the fan spins up [12:14] what a pain, it hasn't === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:15] ajmitch: I'd clean it, like TheMuso suggested. [12:15] Blasting it with compressed air if you have some handy may well help. [12:16] I don't have any on hand [12:16] & I usually wouldn't expect the fan to stop dead [12:16] Most fans are very simple. :-) [12:17] quite :) === geser [n=michael@ubuntu/member/geser] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RAOF [n=chris@202.63.35.99] has joined #ubuntu-motu === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu looks for somebody to poke about Zope 3 being broken due to an old twisted-web2. [12:44] oh zope === ajmitch hides [12:44] Yeah. [12:44] I was thinking of you. [12:44] :P [12:44] Unfortunately, there's no new release, but Twisted 2.5 breaks it. [12:45] So, we either have broken Zope, or assemble a SVN HEAD web2, somehow. [12:45] breaks in what way? [12:45] The release tarball doesn't seem to bear any resemblance to the stuff that's in SVN; it's got a fair bit of extra stuff in the root. [12:46] Er, Zope won't start... === Fujitsu hunts the bug. [12:46] Bug #83053 [12:46] Malone bug 83053 in twisted-web2 "AttributeError: components.Interface" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83053 [12:46] I ran into it a while ago. [12:47] right, so it's a nice chain of brokenness [12:48] Sorta. === ajmitch wonders who put 2.5 in ubuntu [12:48] Basically, everything is solved if we get a new web2. [12:48] I don't know, but it wasn't overly sane. [12:48] oh, doko did [12:48] (and web2 is in main... aren't we getting rather close to ultimate-freeze?) [12:48] python 2.5 compatibility [12:49] OK. [12:49] A little more sane, then. [12:49] but a new web2 isn't really out, and will it still work with zope? [12:49] doko is also the twisted-web2 maintainer for debian [12:49] Ah, so it's doko's problem. Goodo. [12:49] It might work, but I'm not sure. [12:49] yep === ajmitch confesses to not having used zope3 on feisty for awhile [12:50] Fujitsu: no, zope3 doesn't work with 2.5 [12:50] Crap. [12:50] That's not what I wanted to hear. [12:50] hi doko [12:50] (it wasn't a great first impression when I tried to start Zope for the first time a week ago, and I got that :-/) [12:50] what were you playing with zope for? [12:51] Why not? [12:51] because it requires a large non-refundable investment of time & sanity [12:51] Pfft. [12:52] doko: Is the incompatibility likely to be fixed in the near future? [12:52] good fun though [12:52] That's what I thought. === tmarble [n=tmarble@user-38q4et6.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:56] zope doesnt adopt new python versions very fast [12:56] I [12:56] *I'll take that as a no, then :( === ajmitch hopes that his box will stay stable enough with a dead fan [12:58] ajmitch: SO its dead dead. [12:59] siretart: I note that you have a million and one branches on the mplayer product. Can you please set the ones that have been merged into ubuntu to Merged, etc? [01:00] TheMuso: well it's not spinning [01:01] right [01:02] ugh, someone had to add NM to ubuntu-desktop [01:02] now it claims I have no network, and so certain apps won't connect [01:02] Ah, finally. [01:03] Fujitsu: I haven't done an mplayer upload since ages, you should ask Nafallo [01:03] ... It's good except for cases like that :P [01:03] siretart, but you own the branches. [01:03] They're merged, but still have status New. [01:03] You are the only one with permissions to change the status on your branches. [01:04] of course there's no obvious way to configure NM === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-40-222.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:04] don't expect random user branches to be authoritative [01:04] ajmitch, configuration? What configuration? [01:04] Fujitsu: I do think we should have a motumedia mplayer team branch, which is authoritative [01:04] Fujitsu: the bits that make things go [01:04] siretart, but it's useful to minimise clutter on the page. [01:04] Fujitsu: if there isn't one, let's please create one [01:04] Fujitsu: right. Is there a way to remove branches from launchpad? [01:04] siretart, the ubuntu-dev one is authoritative. [01:05] No, but they will vanish from the main list if set to Merged/Abandoned. [01:05] interesting. will do so then, after we have an authoritiatvive one [01:05] We do. [01:05] ~ubuntu-dev/ubuntu. [01:05] oh === siretart rechecks [01:06] (but they're already merged, so you simply need to modify the status field on yours that have been merged) === RAOF_ [n=chris@202.63.35.99] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:08] aah, abandoned branches don't show up in the list. interesting [01:08] (they should actually be Merged, but they achieve similar things) [01:09] Fujitsu: do you use bzr-builddeb for building? [01:09] I don't, no. [01:09] I've not looked at it. [01:11] Thanks for doing that, the list is somewhat cleaner now. [01:13] Fujitsu: I changed the maintainer of the mplayer lp product to motumedia [01:13] siretart, I was also going to suggest that :) [01:15] siretart: I do [01:15] siretart: it rocks :-) === fernando [n=fernando@189.0.159.101] has joined #ubuntu-motu === segfault [i=segfault@2001:5c0:80ac:1:0:0:0:1] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:17] Fujitsu: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-dev/mplayer/upstream-ubuntu does not seem to contain the packaging branch for mplayer since it doesn't contain any debian/ dir. don't we have some branch which has it? [01:18] Nafallo: :) [01:18]