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gnomefreaknothing useful that i can tell in the 2.0+0 version. i have 9 threads but still no symbols found but more info than no debugging symbols12:30
gnomefreakim gonna upload the one i got done tonight12:30
UbugtuNew bug: #83653 in firefox (main) "pdf download in gmail close firefox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8365312:35
=== gnomefreak gone again
asacgnomefreak: have you succeeded to retrace a report from a current firefox?12:42
gnomefreakyes im gonna split it up and upload it12:42
asacgood12:42
gnomefreakas soon as i figure out where to split it but that should be easy12:42
gnomefreak34.5 mb12:43
asacstack trace would be nice :)12:46
gnomefreakprocmaps is large12:53
gnomefreakok got 3 uploaded so far12:59
gnomefreakdo you want the long ass coredump?01:03
gnomefreakstacktrace is uploaded :)01:04
gnomefreakall files uploaded now.01:06
gnomefreakoops thats not the full coredump but i dont hink you need it anyway01:07
=== gnomefreak out for dinner
asachmmm unfortunately trace does not have line numbers :(01:55
asachmm01:55
asachave to go to bed .... n801:55
asacgnomefreak: one more ... does it make a difference if you run with firefox-dbg package installed (in addition to what apport-retrace installs)02:01
gnomefreakill try in the morning02:52
gnomefreakpitti;s repo needs updating i can finally confirm that02:56
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UbugtuNew bug: #71377 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "Sent item message text won't initially display in preview pane for messages with attachments" [Low,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7137711:59
asacanyone awake ?12:58
gnomefreakyeah sort of01:23
UbugtuNew bug: #41076 in firefox "GSSAPI unavailable, missing library" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/4107601:25
asacgnomefreak: how is your gf doing? getting better?01:29
gnomefreakshe eh01:30
gnomefreakshes still feeling sick but nothing as bad as yesterday. shes getting color back in her face01:30
gnomefreakbe back in a bit i have to get coffee so i can make it :(01:32
gnomefreakiim trying retrace while im gone01:32
Admiral_Chicagocoffee in a good idea...01:36
asac:)01:37
=== asac almost eats coffee ;)
=== Admiral_Chicago will grab a cup in a few
asacgnomefreak: did you mark the gtk_style_realize bugs as duplicates?01:50
asacbug 81978 is another one ... and probably the one with the best info attached01:50
UbugtuMalone bug 81978 in firefox "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in raise() | gtk_style_realize " [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8197801:50
asaccan we currently see all bugs that have not been active for a certain amount of time (e.g. 30 days) ?02:07
asaci don't think so, hmmm02:07
Admiral_Chicagono02:09
asacmaybe a wishlist bug for launchpad then :)02:10
Admiral_Chicagoyes I've been looking for that for a while02:11
asacbut I guess its already posted. I will raise this issue. The launchpad developers appeared keen to help us last time I talked to them02:11
=== Admiral_Chicago is still miffed at LP team.
asacactually we have one of the most complex packages and we are a good example how complex bug workflows might look like02:12
asacAdmiral_Chicago: why?02:12
Admiral_Chicagothe whole Karma thing.02:12
asacany problems in recent history ;) ?02:12
asacahh .... karma-whore you are ;)02:12
Admiral_Chicagothey completly threw out about a week of my work when they reduced the Karma02:13
asachmmm ... maybe an accident02:13
asacthere have been users like pitti that had karma numbers so high you couldn't even read them :)02:13
asacso there was a need to do something about that i guess02:14
Admiral_Chicagoprobably, but I was hoping to apply for membership soon and now I look like a jabroni imo02:14
Admiral_ChicagoAlexLatchford: you should consider membership soon as well :)02:14
UbugtuNew bug: #83750 in firefox (main) "mailto protocol not supported in firefox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8375002:15
asacI don't think that karma will be a problem in regards to membership. People new the scale before ... and now they get used to what karma means with the new scale :)02:16
asacs/new/knew/02:16
Admiral_Chicagoyes, I may add my name to the next meeting.02:17
AlexLatchfordNot just yet, I have only been around on the scene for 3 months or so02:18
AlexLatchfordneed to do a little more work02:18
AlexLatchford:)02:18
Admiral_Chicagoah I've been around since Breezy, started developing around end of Dapper02:19
AlexLatchfordI started using Ubuntu at Breezy, but didnt really start helping until Edgy came out02:20
asacok ... i am out for some lunch02:22
=== Admiral_Chicago leaves for class. gettting that cup of coffee...
UbugtuNew bug: #68456 in mozilla-thunderbird "Ctrl-Shift-K bound to 2 functions in Compose" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6845602:24
gnomefreakasac: no i didnt02:44
gnomefreakasac: i believe that all the ?? in the traces is from bug in feisty.02:48
gnomefreakasac: also did you ping pitti about issues with apport &/or his repo needing updating? if not i will ping him later02:50
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asacgnomefreak: actually I talked to him yesterday, but not about the edgy issues with apport nor with his repo02:58
asacso feel free to do02:58
gnomefreakk02:58
gnomefreakasac: i just did apt-cache policy on firefox-dbgsym in edgy and it is wrong version this might be the cause of it (atleast leaning that way)03:12
gnomefreakwonders if using pittis feisty repo will help but i doubt it03:13
asacif in feisty is the same version ... then there is at least a chance03:14
gnomefreakasac: but everything else outside of firefox will be different including depends  but pitti isnt here atm so i cant ask him03:15
gnomefreakso at this point im installing everything i didnt have like java and flash03:15
gnomefreakmaybe a build-dep too03:16
gnomefreakn03:18
asachmmm try to install firefox-dbg too and see if it yields better symbols (including line-numbers and variables)03:18
gnomefreakit already is03:18
asacah ok03:18
gnomefreakno line numbers03:18
gnomefreaki see alot of ?? int he stacktrace03:19
asacbug?03:19
gnomefreakassuming that is where line numbers should be03:19
gnomefreakit is on feisty not on edgy though afaik03:19
gnomefreakother than pittis debug repo being out dated (atleast with ff) and wrong version of apport im running low on ideas here but i will work as much as i can on it today and ill try to get upstairs to try the patch03:21
asacgnomefreak: look at stacktrace of bug 8197803:21
UbugtuMalone bug 81978 in firefox "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in raise() | gtk_style_realize " [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8197803:21
asacthats how it should look like ... if perfect03:21
gnomefreakk03:21
asacgnomefreak: if you are stuck ... maybe go through bug reports and add the retrace tag to it where appropriate :) ... maybe we should suspend the retracing until we know how to properly do it03:22
gnomefreakline numbers you mean the #5 part of it?03:22
asachttp://librarian.launchpad.net/5911445/Stacktrace.txt03:22
gnomefreakim looking at it03:23
asacthere you see line number for all methods that belong to mozilla03:23
asace.g.03:23
asac#103:23
asacat nsProfileLock.cpp:20603:23
asacthen there are even stack variables filled in ... which are really helpful to see what went wrong03:23
gnomefreakok03:23
asaclike03:23
asacstyles = (GSList *) 0x003:23
asacin #403:23
gnomefreaki get things like  #2  0x0805b2cc in ?? () from /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin03:24
gnomefreaksee the ??03:24
gnomefreakits missing symbols maybe03:25
asacyes those are missing symbols03:25
asacor compiler optimizations03:26
gnomefreakthat could be because pittis repo uses 2.0+0dfsg-0ubuntu3 instead of 2.0.0.103:26
gnomefreakfor the firefox-dbgsym: package03:26
asachmm03:26
asacbut why do we need firefox-dbgsym if we have firefox-dbg installed?03:27
asacmaybe try to not pass -d option ?03:27
gnomefreakapport uses dbgsym from what i can tell03:27
gnomefreakall the warnings are on dbgsym not dbg03:27
gnomefreakmaybe pitti made it to look at his repo?03:28
=== gnomefreak guesses
asacyes ... if you use -d03:28
gnomefreakah i dont need the -d?03:28
asac-d means "download dbgsym" afaik03:28
asacdon't know what happens without them though :) ... but maybe worth a try03:29
gnomefreakk ill try without it im gonna start clean redownload the report03:29
gnomefreakshould i stick with flash 7 or should i grab flash 9 from backports for the debugging03:40
asacdepends on what the user had :)03:42
asacprobably try the non-backports first03:42
gnomefreaki am03:43
gnomefreaki wish it would tell me somehow what versions of what he had03:43
asachmm03:45
asacsome have version info encoded as sonames (es extension to the .so files)?03:48
asachttp://librarian.launchpad.net/5911443/ProcMaps.txt03:48
asace.g. look at /usr/lib/libgthread-2.0.so.0.1200.903:48
asacor usr/lib/libXft.so.2.1.203:48
asacmaybe there is such version info for flash too?03:48
gnomefreakill look asap03:54
UbugtuNew bug: #58808 in flashplugin-nonfree (multiverse) "Flash stalls on install freezing synaptic" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/5880803:58
gnomefreakok running it witho0ut the -d04:02
gnomefreak #7  0xb7e9f369 in MarkGCThingChildren (cx=0x9e69700, thing=0xa266900,04:09
gnomefreakits fixed04:09
asacnice04:09
asacline numbers too?04:09
gnomefreak#8  0xb7e9f81d in js_MarkGCThing (cx=0x9e69700, thing=0xa266900)04:09
gnomefreak     at jsgc.c:247104:09
gnomefreak        flagp = (uint8 *) 0x004:09
gnomefreakthats all of #804:09
asacsuberp ... you rock :)04:09
gnomefreak:)04:09
asacso we need full -dbg package instead of dbgsym ?04:10
gnomefreakok its large04:10
gnomefreakyes and forget the -d04:10
asacyou can do the apport-unpack to split it up in pieces04:10
gnomefreakapport-retrace file04:10
asacand only attach stacktrace for now04:10
gnomefreakoh cool04:10
gnomefreakapport-unpack file?04:10
asacUsage: /usr/bin/apport-unpack <report> <target directory>04:11
gnomefreaki got that too when trying to run it :(04:11
asachehe ... so a double check :)04:12
gnomefreakapport-unpack file whate3ver/dir/i/want04:12
asacright04:12
gnomefreakseems i have to do something else04:12
gnomefreakill try making a folder for it i guess04:12
gnomefreakyou want all 3 stacks?04:16
asacyeah folder might need to exist04:16
asac3?04:17
gnomefreakthere s astacktrace stacktracetop and threadstacktrace04:17
gnomefreaktheres a stacktrace ....04:17
asacyes attach all for now :) ... maybe we can reduce this to just stacktrace by default later04:17
gnomefreakk04:17
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gnomefreakuploaded :)04:19
gnomefreaklet me know if thats all and i will continue i hope04:19
gnomefreakbtw apport-unpack splits them up into maybe 15 files04:20
gnomefreakmake that 21 files04:20
asacbug?04:24
gnomefreakbug 4756404:25
UbugtuMalone bug 47564 in firefox "closes when scrolling" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/4756404:25
UbugtuNew bug: #63230 in firefox (main) "firefox crash after opening totem in a tab" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6323004:36
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asacgnomefreak: well done ... you can remove the retrace tag then and add a traced tag instead ... which means that I will look at the trace and see what is next04:40
asacnext time we only need stacktrace and threadstracktrace .... topstacktrace does not look particulary useful :)04:41
asacah ... maybe one should add info which crash report the trace comes from04:41
asace.g. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/47564/comments/404:42
UbugtuMalone bug 47564 in firefox "closes when scrolling" [Medium,Needs info] 04:42
asacin this case04:42
gnomefreaklooking04:43
gnomefreaksounds good but how do we get people to comment like that :P04:44
asaclike what?04:44
gnomefreakoh you mean like when i upload it comment that it is from <persons> crash report04:44
asacyes04:45
asacthere are some reports04:45
UbugtuNew bug: #69147 in firefox (main) "Firefox crash report" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6914704:45
gnomefreakthe stacktraces i gave last are for adams04:45
asacwhere multiple people post reports too04:45
asacthey might be unrelated04:45
gnomefreaksorry forgot to add  that04:45
asacso it is helpful to know to which report they are related04:45
gnomefreakim also going through and asking them for a crash report on newest version of ff in edgy04:46
gnomefreakif they are using 2.0+0 if i dont get an answer i will go back and try to downgrade my ff and see if it works but i would rather have the newest version crash report so we know it wasnt fixed in 2.0.0.104:47
asacyes ... first ask if they can still reproduce ... if not make a retrace with their version ... so we might be able to confirm that it was fixed upstream or something04:47
asacif we find this too time-consuming we can decide to just close unreproducible crash reports.04:48
asachowever this should only be done as the last resort :)04:48
gnomefreakagreed04:48
asacbummer ... somehow have to write down all these tiny details somewhere :)04:49
gnomefreakcan i reassign but 4756404:49
asacbug 4756404:50
UbugtuMalone bug 47564 in firefox "closes when scrolling" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/4756404:50
gnomefreakasac: we can update the wikis we already have but we need people to get latest crash report than maybe assign it to me for retrace for now04:50
gnomefreaknow that i got it working right i can do a few a day i think04:50
asacok ... I will try to think about a tag ... maybe just a "getcrashreport" tag for bugs that need up to date crash reports?04:53
gnomefreaksounds good to me04:53
asacor badreport .... to indicate that there is either no, an incomplete or an outdated (for now) report attached?04:54
gnomefreakbadreport sounds kind of bad04:56
asacok then ... needreport :)04:56
gnomefreakworks04:56
asacok ... make use of it if you find such a report ... I will add "needreport" and "traced" to the wiki (later today)04:57
gnomefreakrunning another one atm but again i need one updated :(04:58
gnomefreakcan we add 2  tags?04:58
asacsure04:58
asackeep04:58
asacretrace04:58
asacand just add needreport04:58
asacof course general status should be "Needs Info" for those reports04:58
gnomefreakapport takes alot of cpu :(05:00
gnomefreakgrrrrr05:01
gnomefreakapport giving damn errors again let me see what i can do05:01
gnomefreakAssertionError05:02
asachmm sounds bad :/05:02
gnomefreakyes very05:03
gnomefreakmore bad news. i dont think you can add more tags. it brings up the tag itself to either remove it or change it05:04
gnomefreakTraceback (most recent call last):05:05
gnomefreak  File "/usr/bin/apport-retrace", line 292, in ?05:05
gnomefreak    report.write(out)05:05
gnomefreak  File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/problem_report.py", line 141, in write05:05
gnomefreak    assert v.find('\n\n') < 005:05
gnomefreakAssertionError05:05
gnomefreakthats full error05:05
gnomefreakha and its tag <space> tag05:06
asacwhat ... just one tag?05:10
asacper report05:10
asacbad05:10
asaclet me try :) ... bug?05:11
asacyeah05:11
asacyou need to separate tags by space :)05:11
gnomefreak:)05:11
asachttps://launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/1517905:11
UbugtuMalone bug 15179 in firefox "Users should be discouraged from editing temporary files" [Medium,Confirmed] 05:11
asacyou know how I can easily navigate to the Ubuntu bug from there?05:12
gnomefreakdo i still need my dir. for bug 4756405:12
UbugtuMalone bug 47564 in firefox "closes when scrolling" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/4756405:12
gnomefreakyeah i added a tag to bug 6914705:12
UbugtuMalone bug 69147 in firefox "Firefox crash report" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6914705:12
asacfor but 47564 ... just replace tag by 'traced' and reassign to team05:14
gnomefreakcan i get rid of my dir that i was working in or do you still need files?05:14
asacdon't need them ... if it is really hard to redo in case we really need more you might consider to keep it somewhere05:15
asaccase = unlikely05:15
gnomefreakasac: its not too bad now that we got it working05:16
gnomefreakif you nee di can retrace it but for now its gone05:17
asacfine ... I don't think we need more05:17
asacactually this stack looks familiar to me ... remember something like this being fixed in 2.0.0.105:17
=== gnomefreak starting from old reports so it is possible
gnomefreakim wondering if this crash report is bad05:23
gnomefreakim asking in -bugs if anyone has seen it05:24
asacwhich crash ?05:25
asacbug 6914705:25
UbugtuMalone bug 69147 in firefox "Firefox crash report" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6914705:25
asac?05:25
gnomefreakyes05:25
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gnomefreakf4hy's report05:25
asacits a duplicate05:26
gnomefreakyou know this bug?05:26
asacwait a sec05:26
asaci processed it yesterday05:26
asac:)05:27
asachttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/7353605:27
UbugtuMalone bug 73536 in firefox "Firefox crashes on instant X server shutdown" [Medium,Needs info] 05:27
asacbut its valid ... (if they are indeed the same)05:27
gnomefreakwont know without the retrace will we?05:27
asacactually it crashes when X is forcefully shutdown05:27
asacand report is generated on next login05:27
asacfor that incident05:27
asacyeah ... probably ... we should anyway ask if he forcefully shutdown his X server before05:29
gnomefreakk05:29
gnomefreakasked05:30
gnomefreakfiled a bug report on that error it looks like its his crash report06:09
=== asac is temporarily away
asacbe back in 50 min06:16
gnomefreakk06:16
gnomefreakok if anyone needs a retrace for imporant bugs let me know ill be working on older bugs but i can always fit one in :)07:01
=== gnomefreak might be retracting that statement :(
gnomefreaklets see how new apport works07:12
gnomefreakasac: new comment from one of the reporters on bug 69147 (what would you like to do with this one?)07:21
UbugtuMalone bug 69147 in firefox "Firefox crash report" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6914707:21
gnomefreakgod i hope your kidding on bug 4500807:27
UbugtuMalone bug 45008 in firefox "Firefox Crashes on Saving Files" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/4500807:28
asacwill look in a secons07:30
asacd07:30
gnomefreakasac: we have issues im gonna upload stack for bug and i would like you to see if that is enough. im getting that error still and its not finishing07:31
asacyeah ... apparently bug 45008 is a dupe. god guess I guess :-P07:32
UbugtuMalone bug 45008 in firefox "Firefox Crashes on Saving Files" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/4500807:32
asacups07:32
asacsorry i ment 6914707:32
asac:)07:32
asacso where are you stuck?07:32
gnomefreakapport is erroring nad not finishing07:34
gnomefreakand*07:34
gnomefreaklook at stack uploaded to bug 69315 let me know if its enough07:34
UbugtuMalone bug 69315 in firefox "random crash" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6931507:34
asaclooks fine ... yes.07:35
asacso what about bug 45008 ?07:35
UbugtuMalone bug 45008 in firefox "Firefox Crashes on Saving Files" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/4500807:35
asackidding?07:35
gnomefreaklots of crash reports07:35
gnomefreakwill look at them see if i cant get them done07:36
asacyupp07:36
asacthere are even lots of duplicates07:36
gnomefreakdo you want all the dupes too?07:37
asacnamed: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/45008/comments/1607:37
UbugtuMalone bug 45008 in firefox "Firefox Crashes on Saving Files" [Medium,Needs info] 07:37
asaci dunno ... maybe I should go through them and look07:37
gnomefreakif you get time go through them and lists what ones you want done adn i will see if i can do them07:38
asaci will add retrace on them :)07:38
asacthere should be already plenty with that tag :)07:38
asachopefully ... i will do retraces too soon ... but not before I have finished lots of other work still here (e.g. repackaging firefox, thunderbird ...) :)07:39
gnomefreaki see a few with 2.0+0 version (i have that one installed at the moment) and a few with 2.0.0.107:39
gnomefreakasac: you work on what you need to i can handle the retraces for now07:40
Admiral_Chicagogrr...network...bothers...me07:40
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Admiral_Chicagojavascript...I hate it so much...07:41
gnomefreakok went throught he ones on 45008 and i will try to get 6 done theres one with no version i will see if i can get that one done too but not holding breath07:45
asacAdmiral_Chicago: just annoying .. or you hate to code it?07:45
Admiral_Chicagoasac: i sent myself a link and I realize I don't understand %247cae%413 etc07:46
Admiral_Chicagoi figured it out07:46
asachehe07:47
gnomefreakok just updated pyton-apport this should fix the errors (atleast i hope)08:01
=== gnomefreak keeps forgetting to email david about reading cras reports :(
asacyou already know how to do it :)08:27
asacyou see the stacktrace08:27
asacyou can go to the sources and their lines :)08:27
asacand look whats wrong ... considering variables set to their values etc.08:27
=== gnomefreak cant understand all the crypic stuff in stacktraces :(
UbugtuNew bug: #83827 in firefox (main) "firefox memory leak -> crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8382708:30
gnomefreaki did email him to look into it and bughelper. if we get cluefiles done for bughelper we can mark dupes very very easy08:31
gnomefreaks/mark/find08:31
AlexLatchfordhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mozilla-thunderbird/+bug/2422008:32
UbugtuMalone bug 24220 in mozilla-thunderbird "mozilla-thunderbird: SMTP down negotiation weakness" [High,Confirmed] 08:32
gnomefreakhjmf: if i get time in the next few days ill run the retrace on bug 8319408:32
UbugtuMalone bug 83194 in firefox "Firefox crashes when switching video mode at filecabi.net" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8319408:32
AlexLatchfordAnyone got any info on this?08:32
gnomefreaklookijng\08:34
gnomefreakyou know what i mean08:34
gnomefreaklooks like if its not fixed it just needs a rebuild08:35
hjmfgnomefreak: Cool. Are you using edgy's or feisty's aport-retrace version?08:35
gnomefreaki gather that froom mozilla and upstream its fixed but i might be wrong08:36
gnomefreakhjmf: feistys with edgy chroot08:36
gnomefreaki just updated it because i was getting errors08:36
AlexLatchfordyeah gnomefreak I am not sure if this one has?#08:36
hjmfI'll try it asap. Any other hints to avoid errors?08:36
gnomefreakpray08:37
gnomefreaklol08:37
hjmflol08:37
gnomefreakhjmf: dont use the -d flag08:37
gnomefreakand tee it off to a file other than that its working ok08:37
hjmfare you running it directly to the crash file or to the unpacked report?08:38
gnomefreaki havent run one since update of python-apport (that was in the traceback from the assertion error08:38
gnomefreakdirectly to crash than unpacking it and just uploading stacktrace anf threadstacktrace08:38
hjmfok08:39
gnomefreakits time consumming but without errors its nice :) btw cpu usage is high while running it08:39
gnomefreakrrunning one now ill leet you know if it still errosr08:40
hjmfI'm trying a test on edgy's patched apport, if I just only have ten minutes of free time :/08:43
AlexLatchfordgnomefreak: what do you want to do about the bug I linked?08:43
hjmfno succeed :(08:45
hjmfapport-retrace _usr_lib_firefox_firefox-bin.1000.crash -o out.crash08:45
hjmfdiff <(sed -n '1,/^CoreDump:/ {p;}' out.crash) <(sed -n '1,/^CoreDump:/ {p;}' _usr_lib_firefox_firefox-bin.1000.crash)08:46
hjmfno differences08:46
gnomefreakAlexLatchford: not sure yet. i think it just needs a rebuild (i havent finished working on building ff or tb since im on apport-retrace08:46
gnomefreakhjmf: use feistys :)08:46
hjmfI give up, I'll use feistys :)08:47
hjmfbut tomorrow08:47
hjmfsee you08:47
gnomefreaki just do a simple apport-retrace file 2>&1 | tee debuginfo08:48
gnomefreaknew python-apport fixed it i think08:48
gnomefreakoh that cant be good :(08:49
gnomefreakhjmf: you might want to wait a minute before doing onee08:51
gnomefreakim unpacking it now but looks like not everything was done08:52
gnomefreakasac: might have found another bug in apport can you please take a look at the 2 files i uploaded to bug 4500808:57
UbugtuMalone bug 45008 in firefox "Firefox Crashes on Saving Files" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/4500808:57
gnomefreakrunning another on someone elses to see if it is the report  or apport08:57
gnomefreakoh crap08:58
gnomefreakhjmf: also install the -dbg package for ff08:59
gnomefreakim wondering if i need gtk crap08:59
asacgnomefreak: what makes you think that there is a bug in apport?09:04
asacinstalling gtk dbg package might help to get more symbols09:04
gnomefreakstill alot of ?? and in some of the parts of the report there are no symbols looks the same as the one i downloaded :(09:04
asacyeah ... the ?? are normal I guess09:06
asacthats how stacktraces look like :)09:06
asacmaybe its somewhere in the kernel user-space api for which you have no symbols09:07
gnomefreakah ok. im looking for all the gtk-dbg i can find would you like a rerun on that one?09:11
asacnot needed ... for now :)09:12
asacthx09:13
gnomefreaknp09:15
asacbtw, if you ask users to test if problem disappears without extensions et al, ask them to run09:23
asac firefox -safe-mode09:23
asacthats easier09:23
asacprobably worth a wiki entry :)09:23
gnomefreakk09:23
gnomefreakanyone feel like building thunderbird for AlexLatchford ?09:29
gnomefreakwish there was a ubuntu-desktop-dbg metapackage :(09:31
AlexLatchfordgnomefreak: if you have a guide on how to do it ill give it a stab09:32
gnomefreakAlexLatchford: you still have that link handy09:32
AlexLatchforderm. its the first bug on the tb list09:32
AlexLatchfordhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mozilla-thunderbird/+bug/2422009:32
UbugtuMalone bug 24220 in mozilla-thunderbird "mozilla-thunderbird: SMTP down negotiation weakness" [High,Confirmed] 09:32
AlexLatchfordyes lol09:32
AlexLatchfordstill on my paste selection09:33
gnomefreakAlexLatchford: not for mozilla :( they have a guide on building the package from scratch but not rebuild09:33
AlexLatchfordcan I have a link for that?09:33
gnomefreakand than adding patches makes it a bit harder i believe09:33
gnomefreakAlexLatchford: lol asac already knows that one09:34
AlexLatchfordmeh?09:35
gnomefreaki see his name on the replys09:35
gnomefreaklooks like he built debians version09:35
AlexLatchfordaha yes, upstream its got his name on it09:35
AlexLatchforddidnt check that lol09:35
AlexLatchfordthus its fixed?09:36
gnomefreakin debian it is09:36
gnomefreakhe hasnt built ubuntu's yet09:36
AlexLatchfordaha ok, so no its not just yet09:36
gnomefreakmaybe we are lucky and its on his to do list09:37
AlexLatchfordshould be09:37
gnomefreaki think for the most part i got the concept of building firefox (maybe same for thunderbird) but i would like to get a complete one done and checked so im more sure of myself09:38
asacpitti told me that we can drop the -dbg packages ... but seen the output of apport-retrace with just dbgsym I doubt this is a wise decision09:38
gnomefreakasac: i wont until the update to that repo is done09:39
gnomefreakhe pinged infinity and someone else about it he said this morning09:39
asacyes ... but given some foresight is never bad ... in case we really don't need -dbg packages for feisty, I will drop it and provide one somewhere else for the time being09:40
gnomefreaktheres a much wider selection of dbgsym than dbg packages and that sounds good but i want to make sure repo is fully updated before we go there09:40
asacyes, but you managed to produce a retrace with -dbgsym symbols, didn't your09:41
asac?09:41
gnomefreakasac: no because firefox-dbgsym isnt updated09:41
asacthough we could see the methods, we had not much details09:41
asacso you couldn't find a -dbgsym package with the same version or a bug in -dbgsym creation?09:42
gnomefreakthat one is the most imporant because he would have to change 20 other ones too iirc there was out-dated and depends issues because of it being out-dated09:42
asachmm09:42
asacbut have you looked at the size?09:43
asacthe -dbg package is about 50mb09:43
gnomefreakexample firefox-2.0.0.1*-dbgsym isnt ther eits still at 2.0+0*-dbgsym09:43
gnomefreakyes i know09:43
gnomefreakAfter unpacking 311MB of additional disk space will be used. for 69 -dbg packages09:44
gnomefreakthey are all over bloated IMHO09:44
asachmmm .... ok ... maybe we should just wait ... if I have time I will provide a full -dbg package from some other destition so we can retrace on it09:44
gnomefreakk09:44
asachmm09:44
asac311MB09:44
gnomefreakyep09:44
asacthats about the size the sources are when unpacked :)09:45
gnomefreaki know. they are huge but we need them atm09:45
asacmaybe not by coincident :)09:45
asacno actually I wonder if we will get that much detail with just -dbgsym package09:45
asacincluding line numbers09:45
asacand variables09:46
asacbut maybe ;)09:46
gnomefreakfrom what ive heard its working ok in feisty09:46
gnomefreakthey are getting everything they need09:46
AlexLatchfordgnomefreak: you got the build link?09:46
asacreally? we have an example stacktrace done that way?09:46
gnomefreakAlexLatchford: yeah giv eme a sec09:46
gnomefreakasac: i dont09:46
gnomefreakAlexLatchford: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/09:47
AlexLatchfordta09:48
gnomefreakyou might want to start at 1 (not sure what 6 looks like09:48
gnomefreakAlexLatchford: remember might not be the same for mozilla products09:49
asacmozillas are packaged with debhelper: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/basic-debhelper.html09:49
AlexLatchfordaha ok, thanks09:49
asacbut thats all they have in common atm09:49
asaci will consolidate that asap :)09:50
asacthunderbird uses a patchsystem09:50
gnomefreakthats the one i was using i think09:50
asaccalled dpatch09:50
asachttp://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/ch04s03.html09:50
asachowever its broken :) to do the example in there, because thunderbird does not ship sources directly in orig.tar.gz, but as an included tarball09:51
asacthis is an ugly practice09:51
asacand should not be copied nowadays09:51
asac:-P09:51
gnomefreakits a bit of working around. would be nice if there was a guide that worked09:51
asacfor what? specifically mozillas?09:51
=== gnomefreak got pissed at that guide
gnomefreakyes09:52
asacthey *are* packaged already09:52
asacone just needs to improve09:52
gnomefreakasac: like patching and rebuilding to include fixes and the steps to use09:52
asacactually I would package a simple package from the beginning, but then learn about packaging by working on mozilla tree09:53
=== gnomefreak has done hello-debhelper already :)
asacyes ... patching is quite different for different packages ... depending on what approach the maintainer used09:53
gnomefreaklike 4 times09:53
asachmmm09:53
asacso what is missing?09:53
gnomefreakworks fine for hello-bughelper09:53
gnomefreakbut thats the only package it works with09:54
asacwhy?09:54
asacwhere is hello-bughelper?09:54
gnomefreakif you read the step by step most new users are gonna follow it and its based on hello-debhelper there is no other debhelper packages in repos09:55
gnomefreaksorry debhelper not bughelper09:55
asacwhere is that tutorial?09:55
gnomefreaklike things liek mv hello-2.1.1 hello-debhelper-2.1.109:55
gnomefreakhttp://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/basic-debhelper.html09:55
gnomefreakthat wont work on anything but hello-debhelper (cant do that for any other package. mv package package-debhelper09:56
asachehe09:57
asacwait a sec09:57
gnomefreakit would have been nice if it used a real life senerio09:57
asacthen maybe go for good old debian ;)09:57
asachttp://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/09:57
gnomefreakeven hello-2.1.1 would have been better09:57
asacits a bit more explicit, but imo better09:58
asacit guides you from the package selection to uploading/updating packages09:58
asacof course it cannot cover any corner case09:58
asacbut for normal automake based software this should work perfect09:58
gnomefreakthat looks alot nicer09:59
asacit should work 1:1 on ubuntu09:59
gnomefreakbut im assuming instead of changing debians changelog and control you change ubuntus09:59
asacits the same :)09:59
asacjust09:59
asacdebian/changelog10:00
asacand10:00
asacdebian/control10:00
gnomefreakah10:00
asacthats the trick ... from a packaging point of view, debian and ubuntu are completely equivalent10:00
asacat least thats the idea10:00
gnomefreakhjmf: how is it coming?10:01
gnomefreakasac: but to build ubuntu's with debian patches you would change all ubuntu/debian changelog and ect ... and just dpatch the patch (i know ther eis more but that seems to be the idea to me)10:02
asacsorry ... maybe rephrase ;)10:02
gnomefreaklike take the thunderbird package that we need to build with debians fixes10:03
asacok ... go ahead10:03
gnomefreakyou would grab apt-get source thunderbird (for ubuntus tb) and download the dsc the diff and tar from debian but most work is gonna be done in ubuntus folder like /maindir/ubuntu/debian/  (with the changelog, rules, control files)10:04
gnomefreaksince we are gonna be using dpkg-buildpackage to build ubuntus package not debians10:05
asacno exactly ... maybe like this:10:06
asac  1. we just build a deb package when we run dpkg-buildpackage10:07
asac 2. sometimes ubuntu adds patches or has newer original sources than debian for packages10:07
asac  3. thats why we link against different library versions than debian ... and thus you call for trouble if you forcefully install deb packages build in debian on an ubuntu machine and v.v.10:08
gnomefreakright10:09
asacactually its the same package10:09
gnomefreakbut versions are differrent10:09
asacyes ... thats because you take upstream package10:09
asacand change something (reapply previously developed improvements for instance)10:09
gnomefreakpackage-2.1-0ubuntu2 has 2 pataches that debian may not have10:09
asacsure10:09
gnomefreakafter merge atleast10:10
asacthen you understood, but I just couldn't parse what you said :)10:10
gnomefreakah :)10:10
asacso what do you want to do?10:10
=== gnomefreak thinks hjmf was having trouble and ran away for a few
asacpackage a NEW package ... or adopt an upstream (debian) package to improve?10:11
gnomefreakasac: add patch from debians tb to ubuntus tb10:11
asacah ok :)10:11
gnomefreaksomething lije that10:11
gnomefreaklike*10:11
asacyou have the patch already?10:11
gnomefreakno you do10:11
asacor just as exercise?10:11
gnomefreak:) i can get it when i do it10:11
asacreally?10:11
gnomefreakasac: your name is all over debians build10:11
gnomefreakthat you fixed10:12
asacoh ... you want the debug package?10:12
asacyou want to do it?10:12
gnomefreakAlexLatchford: wants to try it. i just need practice. here is the bug that he was talking about fixing bug 2422010:13
UbugtuMalone bug 24220 in mozilla-thunderbird "mozilla-thunderbird: SMTP down negotiation weakness" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/2422010:13
gnomefreaki will but it will have to wait maybe till weekend10:13
asacyes this bug is well known to me and upstream10:14
gnomefreaki would like to get this bug will 35 crash reports off my to do list first  but im getting there :)10:14
asacits not an issue ;)10:14
asac35?10:14
gnomefreakasac: well i dont know how many are on the dupes10:14
asacmaybe just pick 1 crash per reporter :)10:14
gnomefreaktheres 6 on that one bug alone10:14
asacah10:15
asacthough 35 in a single bug :)10:15
asacthought10:15
gnomefreakcant be sure they are dupes without checking them10:15
asacah ... now i see :)10:15
asacthe problem about bug 2422010:16
UbugtuMalone bug 24220 in mozilla-thunderbird "mozilla-thunderbird: SMTP down negotiation weakness" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/2422010:16
asac:)10:16
asacmalone pretends that it is fixed :)10:16
gnomefreakasac: its not fixed in debian?10:16
asacthats not the case ;)10:16
asacyeah10:16
asacthe bug was cloned and reassigned to the renamed package :)10:16
gnomefreakoh god10:16
asacits easy to track10:17
asacwade throuh all bugs with reference to debian  and look if its cloned :)10:17
asacindeed ... thats a mess10:17
asac;)10:17
asacanyway ... something for later :)10:17
gnomefreakyep way later :)10:18
asacok ... i fixed the negotiation reference10:20
asacso i guess its of your TODO list :-P10:20
asacunless you want to debate upstream of course :)10:21
gnomefreaklol10:22
gnomefreakthat doesnt help lol10:22
gnomefreakwe could use the patch before we can add it to ubuntus version10:23
asacnope ... we cannot :)10:23
asacunless we release iceweasel too ;)10:23
gnomefreakubuntu wont afaik but lost interest in that debate a long time ago10:24
=== gnomefreak has builds of iceweasel (using checkinstall) :(
gnomefreaki think10:24
gnomefreakits been a while10:24
asacits not that different :)10:25
gnomefreaki can do the "./configure make and checkinstall/make install" without a problem10:26
asaci still regularly use it10:26
asac:)10:26
gnomefreakpeople hate it but its a great wrapper if you ask me10:26
asacin general i have no feelings about tools :)10:27
asaci only care that there is choice10:28
asacand freedom ;)10:28
gnomefreakthats all that matters :) the rest is fixable10:30
asacmore or less10:30
asac:)10:30
gnomefreakAlexLatchford: if you take firefox in general to build (not really changing anything just adding your name and getting hang of the files that you need to change) if you have questions we can help you10:32
gnomefreakgood final outcome litian == no errors or warnings (not gonna happen with ff) and you build the source and binary with the changes to the files10:33
=== gnomefreak gonna get as far as i can on this bug than overnight i will have wget get the rest of them and retrace them tomorrow most likely but ill be here for another say hour or 2
gnomefreakits about 30 minutes to grab a crash report on this crap dsl lite connection10:36
asachmm ... thats really bad10:37
gnomefreak26kbps10:37
asacthats unbelievable ... your max?10:37
gnomefreaknot much faster than dial up10:37
asacor just max to lp10:37
asac?10:37
gnomefreakasac: i think i have maxed out at 35kbps (this is real speed not what they say)10:38
gnomefreakanywhere anything i downlaod10:38
asacouch10:38
gnomefreakyep i should be upgrading to real dsl soon10:39
gnomefreakto dl an ISO for cd is about 8hours10:39
asacthats amazing ... just curious, what do you pay for that?10:42
AlexLatchford8 hours?10:43
AlexLatchfordI downloaded Edgy in 20 minutes10:43
asacfor me 35kbps would somewhat be unbearable :/10:44
AlexLatchfordyes, thats what I was getting in 199910:44
gnomefreak:(10:45
gnomefreak/win/win 510:51
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Adri2000hi10:56
Adri2000Admiral_Chicago: why did you reject this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mozilla-firefox-adblock/+bug/83288 ?10:56
UbugtuMalone bug 83288 in mozilla-firefox-adblock "firefox adblock doesn't work" [Undecided,Rejected] 10:56
gnomefreakbecause ther eis no package in ubutnu for addblock (if i rejected it)10:57
Adri2000uh?10:57
Adri2000the bug is filed against the package mozilla-firefox-adblock10:58
Adri2000this package exists10:58
gnomefreakAdri2000: there is no adblock extention in ubuntu10:58
gnomefreaknot here it doesnt10:58
gnomefreakhmmmm10:58
gnomefreakin feisty it is10:58
gnomefreaknot edgy10:58
Adri2000yes, the bug reporter uses feisty10:59
gnomefreakfixed now attach the crash report :)10:59
Adri2000it's not a crash11:00
gnomefreakAdri2000: it complains about conflict doesnt tell us anything11:00
gnomefreaki know i am reading it now11:00
Adri2000there is a grave bug that is fixed in debian: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=38133711:00
UbugtuDebian bug 381337 in mozilla-firefox-adblock "mozilla-firefox-adblock: adblock does not get active in firefox" [Grave,Closed] 11:00
Adri2000I'm uploading the fix11:01
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gnomefreakdamnit its still erroring :( i hope he fixes that soon11:02
Adri2000gnomefreak: you can reproduce the bug?11:04
gnomefreakAdri2000: no i dont use feistys firefox and it doesnt happen on edgys firefox in a chroot11:04
gnomefreakasac: this error is making me sick but it seems i am getting most if not all of the stacktrace but thats it.11:05
gnomefreakasac: if you have time can you look at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/45008/comments/22 and let me know if i need to retrace it the apport crash report he also has on bug with no symbols11:12
UbugtuMalone bug 45008 in firefox "Firefox Crashes on Saving Files" [Medium,Needs info] 11:12
asacgnomefreak: the crash theme issue is upstream: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35209611:13
UbugtuMozilla bug 352096 in GFX: Gtk "[FIX] Switching GNOME theme effectively hangs app" [Critical,Verified: fixed] 11:13
asacso you don't need to ask for crashes nor retrace ;)11:13
gnomefreakits fixed upstream?11:13
asacnot fixed ... not landed on the branches11:13
gnomefreakk11:13
asacbut there is a fix11:13
asacwill you mark the main bug for that case accordingly? or should I do?11:14
gnomefreakill do it11:14
asacgreat11:14
asachmm11:16
asacmaybe do one more in that bug11:16
asacthat should be enough11:16
asaci think most of our bugs are actually gtk_style based11:17
asacthere must be something seriously messed up at up11:17
asacus11:17
asaci even think most of our crashers stem from that issue11:17
asacor at least lots11:17
gnomefreaki will run another one on that bug and maybe work on one more bug tonight11:17
asachttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bugs?field.searchtext=gtk_style&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=Unconfirmed&field.status%3Alist=Confirmed&field.status%3Alist=In+Progress&field.status%3Alist=Needs+Info&field.status%3Alist=Fix+Committed&field.assignee=&field.owner=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch=&field.has_no_package=11:18
asacthats gtk_style search11:18
asacit pops up 10 issues11:18
asacand there are certainly more where noone looked at the stacktraces11:18
asacsomehow scary11:19
gnomefreakwant a stacktrace on each of them?11:19
gnomefreakatleast one?11:19
asaci think you can leave the gtk_style_* things alone11:19
asacand go ahead to those where this info is not yet known11:20
asac:)11:20
asacjust take care that they pop up on gtk_style search11:20
asacthen we mark them duplicate as soon as we know the issue11:20
gnomefreakmost of these look like dupes of that one11:21
gnomefreakproblem they seem to all have a player involved11:22
gnomefreaktotem or another11:23
asachmm anyway ... looks like its OUR bug11:23
asacupstream has no entry for gtk_style_ref in the whole archive11:23
asacneither summary nur any bug description11:24
gnomefreakwonders who sent firefox upstream to gnomes bug tracker :(11:24
asacsomeone does?11:24
gnomefreakhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/7457611:25
UbugtuMalone bug 74576 in firefox "crash after theme change [@gtk_style_realize]  [@gtk_style_ref] " [Medium,Confirmed] 11:25
asacinteresting11:25
gnomefreakits right upstream just package should have been changed instead of firefox.11:25
gnomefreakim gonna guess but souldnt like GTK issue atleast maybe firefox is just getting caught up in it. but than its only happening with gecko11:26
asacits more likely that mozilla trashes memory and then it crashes in some gtk method because garbage is passed in11:26
asaccan you reproduce a crash on theme change?11:27
asacdid you ever tried?11:27
gnomefreaki have tried in past but i will try again11:27
asachmmm11:28
asachmmm11:28
asacactually i think the theme change we need not to reproduce11:28
asacsorry11:28
asacfor the confusion11:28
asacits fixed upstream11:28
gnomefreakit is? how many upstream bugs do they have11:29
asacyes11:29
asacthe hang/crash on theme change is fixed in the bug i mentioned above11:30
asacthe other crashes don't11:30
asaci have some feeling that its caused by our thai-support patch ... which upstream actually complained about some time ago :)11:31
asacnot the theme hang/crash11:31
asaci mean the other gtk related crashes11:31
asachttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25536611:33
asaclook at that one11:33
asacbot gone?11:34
UbugtuMozilla bug 255366 in XP Toolkit/Widgets "File picker calls crash mozilla (open file, file attach, file browser, etc)" [Blocker,Resolved: fixed] 11:34
asacahhh11:34
asac:)11:34
gnomefreakbug 81978 look like a dupe of bug 4500811:34
UbugtuMalone bug 81978 in firefox "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in raise() | gtk_style_realize " [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8197811:34
UbugtuMalone bug 45008 in firefox "Firefox Crashes on Saving Files" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/4500811:34
gnomefreakexact dupe11:34
asaci saw some crashes with a stacktrace that included file picker11:34
asaci think thats our crash upstream11:34
asaci mean some of the gtk_style_* crashes11:34
gnomefreakit looks like a thunderbird issue too11:35
asacyes ... if we have reports about crashes on file open/save/sattach, than its that bug11:35
asacups11:36
asaceverything wrong11:36
asaci had the wrong search mask :)11:36
gnomefreakshould i change upstream on bug 45008 to the new one?11:37
UbugtuMalone bug 45008 in firefox "Firefox Crashes on Saving Files" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/4500811:37
asacno ... i messed up in my research :)11:38
asacit was an old bug11:38
gnomefreakah11:38
asaclong ago ... i should sleep :)11:38
=== gnomefreak needs to too but its a bit early
asacyes 81978 + 45008 are dupes11:40
asacboth are filepicker crashes11:40
gnomefreakbug 8197811:40
UbugtuMalone bug 81978 in firefox "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in raise() | gtk_style_realize " [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8197811:41
asacmaybe add to title [@nsFilePicker::Show] 11:41
asacthats the line to look for in other crashes11:41
asacmost that contain that are most likey dupes11:41
asacwill you mark them?11:42
gnomefreakyep11:42
gnomefreakthan im off :)11:42
asacok11:42
asaci will  change title then11:42
gnomefreaki just added it to 8197811:43
asachmmm ... me too :)11:44
gnomefreakAdri2000: no fix commited doesnt fix a bug it means that you have commited a fix as in you have it ready to be acked11:46
gnomefreakasac: i like your title better :)11:46
gnomefreakk guys ill see everyone in the morning i need to do dinner than sleep11:47
asacn811:48

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